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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on October 16, 2008, 01:02:26 AM
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x166/Nut44x4/CAYLEE/nitecaylee.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 16, 2008, 01:24:25 PM
HERE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 01:24:28 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 01:24:46 PM
Smoooooooth landing Nut!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 01:25:07 PM
OK, where were we? Ah yes, the mysterious new witness says she saw KC carrying a shovel out of the wooded area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 01:25:19 PM
OUCH!  I hit my head on the cage door, but I made it.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 01:25:24 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:25:24 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 01:26:02 PM
Maybe she told Lee where to find her and Lee moved her.  That's why they haven't found her in the area they knew Casey to be in at that time.  Maybe they have the direct hits there, but her remains aren't there, much the same as the back yard.  Just thinking out loud.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 01:26:14 PM
Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 01:26:25 PM
Klaas,

Not sure if you saw my post about a deliberate piece of the hat being cut out. Can you zoom in on that are? TIA

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnnHatCompare.jpg)

I don't have the video handy now but the actual cut in the hat is more visible watching the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CapCut.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
goodnmad said;
Quote
I was just wondering if maybe he had been posting in this thread under let's just say a velied identity.

do you detect someone posting with a lisp?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 16, 2008, 01:26:32 PM
SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTHHHH ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 01:26:37 PM
Maybe she told Lee where to find her and Lee moved her.  That's why they haven't found her in the area they knew Casey to be in at that time.  Maybe they have the direct hits there, but her remains aren't there, much the same as the back yard.  Just thinking out loud.

This has always been my belief and the reason why KC has said she doesnt know where Caylee is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 01:28:03 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

He doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him.  I'm not strong Rob, but I have a cane!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 01:28:14 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmmm, hadn't thought about that..I don't think so but it is an interresting thought.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 01:31:18 PM
Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...

do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

He doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him.  I'm not strong Rob, but I have a cane!

mammy103
personally, I AM HONORED that I am the number one George hater on this board and someone knows it!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 01:32:30 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmmm, hadn't thought about that..I don't think so but it is an interresting thought.  ::MonkeyWink::

Garrison would call Casey a "skank"?, Colt did!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:32:38 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

He doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him.  I'm not strong Rob, but I have a cane!

mammy103
personally, I AM HONORED that I am the number one George hater on this board and someone knows it!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe you should add "Anthony Counselor" to your list of interests there right after President of LG FC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:33:40 PM

Garrison would call Casey a "skank"?, Colt did!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Well, neither of them can argue with that common knowledge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:36:11 PM
OK, where were we? Ah yes, the mysterious new witness says she saw KC carrying a shovel out of the wooded area.
Wonder if the witness is new or if we are just hearing about these new witness now?  Could be part of LE beautiful release of information plan - I think they have a plan to show LE how to do it right so we never have an OJ situation again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 01:36:56 PM
Rob reminds me of my youngest son and I guess that I take it personally when someone picks on him.  grrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 01:37:10 PM
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

link to a couple more pic's of the hat


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:37:22 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know. Someone last night thought he might be Rev Grund. And this morning I got to thinking about knowing someone for only a few hours and so vigorously defending him. Then again, he may be just who he says he is.

If he is, then he is entitled to his opinion. But I'm still not doling out any more sympathy for the Anthonys, with the exception of sweet little Caylee.

And I also had a thought that, man, it sure would be nice if someone in that family, anyone were as loyal to that little girl as Colt is to George.

And Larry Garrison is not entitled to his opinion. It says so in the monkey law books.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
Rob reminds me of my youngest son and I guess that I take it personally when someone picks on him.  grrrrrrrrrrrr
Aw thats very sweet!
Rob, whenever I think of you I picture Ben Roethlisburger...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 01:40:20 PM
Rob reminds me of my youngest son and I guess that I take it personally when someone picks on him.  grrrrrrrrrrrr

 ::MonkeyWink:: Thanks mammy, but I can take it. That was nothing compared to the 'rooba trolls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:40:46 PM
goodnmad said;
Quote
I was just wondering if maybe he had been posting in this thread under let's just say a velied identity.

do you detect someone posting with a lisp?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

hmm, now I guess I'll have to go watch a youtube of Garrison. I'm really not that familiar with him, thank goodness.

if I get violently ill while looking at his mug I'm blaming you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmmm, hadn't thought about that..I don't think so but it is an interresting thought.  ::MonkeyWink::

Garrison would call Casey a "skank"?, Colt did!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Who wouldn't call Casey a skank????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:41:20 PM
Klaas,

Not sure if you saw my post about a deliberate piece of the hat being cut out. Can you zoom in on that are? TIA

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnnHatCompare.jpg)

I don't have the video handy now but the actual cut in the hat is more visible watching the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CapCut.jpg)
If anyone finds the video - please post it.  I bet if I ask Janet really sweet, she will!  Who knows, that hat might have represented who to give the drugs to or who to approach if you wanted a fix.  That is, if these two were involved in possibly more that recreational use.  Would seem to me to tell the seller/buyer I will be the lady in the shamrock hat.  I sure hope we do find out what this hat meant - could be nothing more than the girlfriends club, but I kinda doubt that.  Casey never understood a bond - except the one that involves her - $500,000 bond and NO BOND!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 01:41:45 PM
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

link to a couple more pic's of the hat

Thanks! In the last pic Klaas posted it didnt look like a piece was cut out of the hat. I went to the link you posted and it is clear to me nothing was cut out. The hat is dark in color on both sides.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?

I had the same thought. Boggy Creek Road or something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know. Someone last night thought he might be Rev Grund. And this morning I got to thinking about knowing someone for only a few hours and so vigorously defending him. Then again, he may be just who he says he is.

If he is, then he is entitled to his opinion. But I'm still not doling out any more sympathy for the Anthonys, with the exception of sweet little Caylee.

And I also had a thought that, man, it sure would be nice if someone in that family, anyone were as loyal to that little girl as Colt is to George.

And Larry Garrison is not entitled to his opinion. It says so in the monkey law books.
Why Rev. Grund? (Sorry that seems odd to me!)

We have had our share of interesting sorts on this board though I will say.  I love a fresh perspective just as much as the next monkey, but I like them to be followed with facts or atleast hold water.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:44:26 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

He doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him.  I'm not strong Rob, but I have a cane!

mammy103
personally, I AM HONORED that I am the number one George hater on this board and someone knows it!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe you should add "Anthony Counselor" to your list of interests there right after President of LG FC.
Wow - I know ROB is worthy of a following, but from what it sounds like here - if Colty is this Garrison person, someone needs to GET A LIFE!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:44:49 PM
ok, who is looking at the map and at #14 Hazeltine National?  I am.

What is directly behind it? Is that water and a wooded area?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 01:45:13 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused::

Help me Im trying to put this all together inmy mind with the maps from ID


Where is the Trifecta area, sorry if this has been answered already?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:45:15 PM
#17 on the map sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 01:46:59 PM
quote author=Tamikosmom link=topic=3700.msg504095#msg504095 date=1224177604]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html

Spokesman For Casey's Attorney Backtracks On Comments Caylee Is Dead

POSTED: 6:31 am EDT October 16, 2008
UPDATED: 12:41 pm EDT October 16, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A spokesperson for Casey Anthony's legal team told a national TV audience that Caylee Anthony was dead, but that's not what he's saying Thursday afternoon.

Jose Baez's spokesperson, Todd Black, is backtracking on a statement he made Wednesday night during a phone interview with CNN. He said Caylee was dead, but he had an explanation for his words Thursday.

Black is backtracking and said Jose Baez is holding a news conference Thursday afternoon to respond to the comment. Eyewitness News talked to George Anthony about it before he left home Thursday.

George is still driving around the billboard with Caylee's picture on it. He is determined to find his granddaughter alive and downplayed what the spokesman for his daughter's legal team said on national television Thursday night.

"That's not a belief that's in my brain. If some people want to do that, that's up to them," George told Eyewitness News.

Todd Black, the spokesperson for Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, was asked why Casey was captured in pictures partying while her daughter was missing. That's when he admitted what investigators have long said.

"This is a very serious case, involving not just the life of a little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony," Black said on CNN Wednesday night (Hear It All).

Eyewitness News tracked him down late Thursday morning and, over the phone, he denied that is what he meant. He insisted the Baez legal team is confident Caylee is just missing and Casey had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"I did not say that on national television. I responded to what someone else said," Black told Eyewitness News.

In late August, Eyewitness News was the first station to uncover the DNA evidence that showed the toddler was no longer alive. A spokesperson for George and Cindy Anthony called the statement made by Black, someone who's supposed to be on Casey's side, inappropriate.

"If he said something like that and that's what he meant then he shouldn't be representing, working for, Jose Baez because that's an inappropriate statement," said Larry Garrison, Anthony family spokesperson.

Baez visited Casey in jail late Wednesday night. Meanwhile, the Anthony family is still raising money that's going to a fund to help find Caylee. The family also said they are setting up tip line.


Monkeys ... I listened to the words of the audio over and over again.  There is no way that Todd Black can deny that he implied that Caylee was deceased when he stated "the loss of the life of this little girl".

Janet

++++++

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:35 AM EDT, October 16, 2008

Attorney's spokesman says child is dead


7:35 a.m. A spokesman for Casey Anthony's defense team told a national television news station that her young daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, is dead.

Attorney Jose Baez's spokesman, Todd Black, was live on a phone interview on CNN Wednesday night when he said, "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

He faltered slightly after saying the girl died.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story


Prime News host Mike Galanos spars with a Casey Anthony defense spokesman over the media's handling of the case.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?eref=rss_us#cnnSTCVideo


RAW INTERVIEW: Baez PR Firm Spokesman Admits Caylee Is Dead
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 01:47:39 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmmm, hadn't thought about that..I don't think so but it is an interresting thought.  ::MonkeyWink::

Garrison would call Casey a "skank"?, Colt did!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
  That's what I was thinking about yesterday.  Colt claims to have befriended George but at the same time says he knows Casey is guilty and should pay for her crimes.  I'm good so far, but then he calls her a "skank".  Ok, I can say whatever I want to about my relatives, but nobody else better.

I'll go on the record as saying I'm pretty positive that Colt is an imposter and I'll add that I've "looked into some things".  He's not some random guy who met George and is now his BFF even though he thinks his daughter is a skank.

After Todd Black's little freudian slip..... I'm thinking the anthony's are better off without "friends"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 01:48:01 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???

no one thinks you're dumb.

it means If I Recall Correctly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 01:48:30 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???

IIRC is If I recall correctly.

I want to know what A/R/T means or pbxo or rx I think I have seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 01:48:49 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???

You're not dumb.

If I recall correctly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:49:02 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know. Someone last night thought he might be Rev Grund. And this morning I got to thinking about knowing someone for only a few hours and so vigorously defending him. Then again, he may be just who he says he is.

If he is, then he is entitled to his opinion. But I'm still not doling out any more sympathy for the Anthonys, with the exception of sweet little Caylee.

And I also had a thought that, man, it sure would be nice if someone in that family, anyone were as loyal to that little girl as Colt is to George.

And Larry Garrison is not entitled to his opinion. It says so in the monkey law books.
Why Rev. Grund? (Sorry that seems odd to me!)

We have had our share of interesting sorts on this board though I will say.  I love a fresh perspective just as much as the next monkey, but I like them to be followed with facts or atleast hold water.

I believe it was around page 60 of the last thread not sure who mentioned it. My thought was that one's writing style would be difficult to mask and Rev Grund definitely has a distinctive style. But the point was made that some of colt's writing seems to express themes like "he who casts the first stone" but in laymen's terms.

I don't know. Like I said, I'm fine with everyone having an opinion except for Garrison.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 01:49:05 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???

There are no dumb questions!  IIRC=If I remember correctly ::MonkeyWink::

LIsa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
Monkeys ... I do believe that 2:00 PM Florida time is 10 minutes from now.

Janet
________

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:57 AM EDT, October 16, 2008


TODAY'S UPDATES

Casey Anthony's attorney will hold press conference today

11:12 a.m. Todd Black said defense attorney Jose Baez will hold a press conference at his Kissimmee office at 2 p.m. today. The subject of the press conference was not announced

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 01:50:52 PM
GnM

You think that Colt might be Garrison??

Well he does not like Rob so you could be right!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know. Someone last night thought he might be Rev Grund. And this morning I got to thinking about knowing someone for only a few hours and so vigorously defending him. Then again, he may be just who he says he is.

If he is, then he is entitled to his opinion. But I'm still not doling out any more sympathy for the Anthonys, with the exception of sweet little Caylee.

And I also had a thought that, man, it sure would be nice if someone in that family, anyone were as loyal to that little girl as Colt is to George.

And Larry Garrison is not entitled to his opinion. It says so in the monkey law books.
Why Rev. Grund? (Sorry that seems odd to me!)

We have had our share of interesting sorts on this board though I will say.  I love a fresh perspective just as much as the next monkey, but I like them to be followed with facts or atleast hold water.

I believe it was around page 60 of the last thread not sure who mentioned it. My thought was that one's writing style would be difficult to mask and Rev Grund definitely has a distinctive style. But the point was made that some of colt's writing seems to express themes like "he who casts the first stone" but in laymen's terms.

I don't know. Like I said, I'm fine with everyone having an opinion except for Garrison.  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Mr. Grund sure has "something"!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 01:51:08 PM
Monkeys ... I do believe that 2:00 PM Florida time is 10 minutes from now.

Janet
________

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:57 AM EDT, October 16, 2008


TODAY'S UPDATES

Casey Anthony's attorney will hold press conference today

11:12 a.m. Todd Black said defense attorney Jose Baez will hold a press conference at his Kissimmee office at 2 p.m. today. The subject of the press conference was not announced

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story



Thanks Janet!  This is suppsed to be Baez's CYA presser. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 01:51:36 PM
okay, please don't think I'm dumb, but what does IIRC mean???

IIRC is If I recall correctly.

I want to know what A/R/T means or pbxo or rx I think I have seen.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: pbxo - pink banana hugs and kisses. She loves to pass those out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 01:52:26 PM
I thought about Chuck last night and his wife Anita. I tried going to the City of Orlando site this morning and going into the Search for a Parcel, put in the Anthony's address, just to see who their neighbors are and if there is a Charles and Anita on that street but I got some machine language and can't get anywhere with it. It doesn't work like mine does here where I can see who all my neighbors are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 01:53:05 PM
a/r/t
all righty then...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 01:53:08 PM
Thanks to everyone who answered me...and thanks for not thinking I'm dumb... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 01:53:13 PM
Monkeys ... I do believe that 2:00 PM Florida time is 10 minutes from now.

Janet
________

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:57 AM EDT, October 16, 2008


TODAY'S UPDATES

Casey Anthony's attorney will hold press conference today

11:12 a.m. Todd Black said defense attorney Jose Baez will hold a press conference at his Kissimmee office at 2 p.m. today. The subject of the press conference was not announced

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story



Thanks Janet!  This is suppsed to be Baez's CYA presser. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
I wonder ... has Todd Black ever met personally with the Anthonys? Hmm. He could be one of their only friends now. But I'm pretty sure he's about to get FIRED.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 01:53:41 PM
** Rattles my Cage **  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...?

do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 01:54:33 PM
Thanks to everyone who answered me...and thanks for not thinking I'm dumb... ::MonkeyWink::

I'm right there with ya looking4answers!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
::MonkeyConfused::

Help me Im trying to put this all together inmy mind with the maps from ID


Where is the Trifecta area, sorry if this has been answered already?

I'm thinking it is the area of #17


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 01:54:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17429655/index.html

Lorraine the lady going thru the trash video


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 01:55:02 PM
ouch rattling the cage hurt my wittle hands .... i'm going to sit quietly now and, it my nanner...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
TOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM - change your avatar - FOX is reporting that there is a person dressed as a CLOWN stalking and trying to lure kids in Chicago.  Now, you know you are addicted to SM when you think of an avatar for the news!
Maybe someone could start a fun thread somewhere called you know you are addicted to SM when--------.  Could be  fun.
While I am at it on the OT stuff - Klass, do you think that Santa RED or someone could open PM's for maybe just a few days so those of us who would like to exchange email addy's could? 
Okay - back OT.  News conference in a few with Mr. BIAS!  Sorry, just like that spelling!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
Monkeys ... I do believe that 2:00 PM Florida time is 10 minutes from now.

Janet
________

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:57 AM EDT, October 16, 2008


TODAY'S UPDATES

Casey Anthony's attorney will hold press conference today

11:12 a.m. Todd Black said defense attorney Jose Baez will hold a press conference at his Kissimmee office at 2 p.m. today. The subject of the press conference was not announced

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story



Thanks Janet!  This is suppsed to be Baez's CYA presser. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Janet

You watch Miss Janet...Baez is going to say that a monkey was messing with the teleprompter when Todd Black was reading his speech on live television.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:55:44 PM
As for the guy who says he saw Casey with a shovel. Well, I'm going to file that away in my mind with the Disney dress for now. The file marked "probably just someone seeking media attention." It's a 3-ring binder, you know, like Casey's.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CynInOregon on October 16, 2008, 01:55:58 PM
** Rattles my Cage **  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...?

do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?

Honestly.. no I don't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 01:56:03 PM

<snipped>
 
I don't know. Like I said, I'm fine with everyone having an opinion except for Garrison.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

QUOTE OF THE DAY!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 01:56:17 PM
** Rattles my Cage **  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...?

do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?
  If they had hearts, maybe.  Since I believe they are both Sociopaths then I'd have to say they wouldn't be going by to "say goodbye".  However, staying with your suggestion, perhaps a quick trip to see if the area had been "disturbed"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 01:57:29 PM

As for the guy who says he saw Casey with a shovel. Well, I'm going to file that away in my mind with the Disney dress for now. The file marked "probably just someone seeking media attention." It's a 3-ring binder, you know, like Casey's.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

goodnmad ... your are on a roll today.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 01:57:46 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::


http://www.wesh.com/video/17729744/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 01:57:54 PM
ok, who is looking at the map and at #17 Hazeltine National?  I am.

What is directly behind it? Is that water and a wooded area?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1)

bump

sorry to be a pushy monkey, but well I am. Is this the "trifecta" -- dumpster, water and woods. Is it? Well is it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 01:58:03 PM
** Rattles my Cage **  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Where Casey/Cindy pulled off yesterday...(under the overpass to make the switcheroo)

That area is on the map(s) as well...?

do you think it was their way of saying good bye to Caylee one last time before Casey gets locked up for life ?
  If they had hearts, maybe.  Since I believe they are both Sociopaths then I'd have to say they wouldn't be going by to "say goodbye".  However, staying with your suggestion, perhaps a quick trip to see if the area had been "disturbed"?

ah good point wanting to make sure our angel Caylee was still in her resting spot of where they left her ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 01:58:20 PM
Link to presser

http://www.wftv.com/video/17729743/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
Jose Baez's spokesperson, Todd Black, is backtracking on a statement he made Wednesday night during a phone interview with CNN. He said Caylee was dead, but he had an explanation for his words Thursday.

Okay Now I was watching HLN when he said and he said alright, I was not edited It was LIVE....

Don't throw rotten bananas at me , But Don't you think the incompetence of both of these lawyers might give KC a chance at appeal?
And another thing I  understand completely they must do what is in the best interest of their client , but do the guys with law degrees actually believe that child is out their alive? Come on !! Speaking for myself only here , I do not have much of an education and I can see she gone just using commen sense. I guess having commen sense in not on the Bar exam.But thee are grown ARSE Adults with the best education...... They should be telling their client your in deep poo poo and lets make the best deal possible for you . And I do not buy for one minute " when Kc story comes out and it will everybody will understand" Okay we will understand what ? Why she killed that beautiful precious gift from God , when there are many people out there that would have loved to raise her and call her one of there own!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
Monkeys ... I do believe that 2:00 PM Florida time is 10 minutes from now.

Janet
________

Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:57 AM EDT, October 16, 2008


TODAY'S UPDATES

Casey Anthony's attorney will hold press conference today

11:12 a.m. Todd Black said defense attorney Jose Baez will hold a press conference at his Kissimmee office at 2 p.m. today. The subject of the press conference was not announced

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story



Thanks Janet!  This is suppsed to be Baez's CYA presser. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Janet

You watch Miss Janet...Baez is going to say that a monkey was messing with the teleprompter when Todd Black was reading his speech on live television.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Don't give him any ideas! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CynInOregon on October 16, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/17729744/index.html

in case someone needs the link
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 01:59:11 PM
ok, who is looking at the map and at #17 Hazeltine National?  I am.

What is directly behind it? Is that water and a wooded area?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1)

bump

sorry to be a pushy monkey, but well I am. Is this the "trifecta" -- dumpster, water and woods. Is it? Well is it?

IMO - yes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 01:59:25 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::


http://www.wesh.com/video/17729744/index.html

Thank you!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 02:00:09 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::

I do not know if there is a live on-line link but ... CNN Headliner may come through.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:00:18 PM
what are we looking at here - a middle school? Where JB got his law degree? What is this?

 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 02:01:05 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::

I do not know if there is a live on-line link but ... CNN Headliner may come through.

Janet


Thanks, Janet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:01:18 PM
Is there a link for the presser, will we get to watch!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::


http://www.wesh.com/video/17729744/index.html

Thank you!!!

Thanks!!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
what are we looking at here - a middle school? Where JB got his law degree? What is this?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
I know his office looks like a re-vamped church.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
Crap! what are we seeing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:03:05 PM
Jose Baez's spokesperson, Todd Black, is backtracking on a statement he made Wednesday night during a phone interview with CNN. He said Caylee was dead, but he had an explanation for his words Thursday.

Okay Now I was watching HLN when he said and he said alright, I was not edited It was LIVE....

Don't throw rotten bananas at me , But Don't you think the incompetence of both of these lawyers might give KC a chance at appeal?
And another thing I  understand completely they must do what is in the best interest of their client , but do the guys with law degrees actually believe that child is out their alive? Come on !! Speaking for myself only here , I do not have much of an education and I can see she gone just using commen sense. I guess having commen sense in not on the Bar exam.But thee are grown ARSE Adults with the best education...... They should be telling their client your in deep poo poo and lets make the best deal possible for you . And I do not buy for one minute " when Kc story comes out and it will everybody will understand" Okay we will understand what ? Why she killed that beautiful precious gift from God , when there are many people out there that would have loved to raise her and call her one of there own!!!!!!

yes, if it were Baez's dumba** alone she'd clearly have an incompetent counsel claim. But I think they will assemble a "dream team."

And Baez is dumb, but he's not that dumb. He knows Caylee is deceased.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 02:03:20 PM
Crap! what are we seeing!


nevermind!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
what are we looking at here - a middle school? Where JB got his law degree? What is this?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I read his office is in a cheap strip mall. He graduated from St Thomas Law School.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:03:40 PM
jackazz walking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WesleyBear on October 16, 2008, 02:04:08 PM
Here he comes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:04:30 PM
Crap! what are we seeing!


nevermind!  ::MonkeyTongue::

who in the hooty hell is the camera person? The camera is swinging all around!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 02:04:35 PM
Someone needs to get that lawyer a working watch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 02:04:46 PM
ok, who is looking at the map and at #14 Hazeltine National?  I am.

What is directly behind it? Is that water and a wooded area?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1)

IMO yes

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/Hazeltine.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
is that dude JB's bro? or is it his bodyguard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:05:46 PM
yep, responding to the "Caylee is dead" slip-up. Dumba**es!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:06:13 PM
Someone needs to get that lawyer a working watch!
Casey should have bought him one with Amy's checks!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:06:49 PM
And Baez is dumb, but he's not that dumb. He knows Caylee is deceased



Well he must be a Liar !! Because he just said he believes shes alive


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:06:59 PM
ok, who is looking at the map and at #14 Hazeltine National?  I am.

What is directly behind it? Is that water and a wooded area?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536576~-81.409206&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!118&encType=1)

IMO yes

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/Hazeltine.jpg)



Very interesting area indeed. Thanks klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 02:07:01 PM
can't un-ring that bell Baez....stop trying....you're only bringing more attention to Black's statement


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:07:47 PM
And Baez is dumb, but he's not that dumb. He knows Caylee is deceased



Well he must be a Liar !! Because he just said he believes shes alive

He is all about the money and fame. A lie is nothing to this man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 02:08:17 PM
I guess he pizzed off the local media..................they won't even give him live coverage  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 02:09:23 PM
Baez is a bad liar!  And his PI's looking for a live "Caylee" IMO are just trying to keep the paycheck going.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:09:29 PM
Transcription:

Lie, cover a**, lie, cover a**, posture, posture, lie, lie, make excuses, throw blame, lie, lie.

The end 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
The guy in the back looks like the puppy in the window...*nod*  * nod * ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:10:55 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
The guy in the back looks like the puppy in the window...*nod*  * nod * ::MonkeyHaHa::

how much is that doggy in the window, woof woof


seriously who is this dude? anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WesleyBear on October 16, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
Blah, blah blah blah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:11:41 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

This is BS quit watsing tax payers money tell the truth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:12:04 PM
Jose
You make me sick. IF you believe that Caylee is alive- go ask your clients family to start searching for her. I mean-it has only been 122 days.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 02:12:31 PM
Baez is now saying "from day one"   ::MonkeyConfused::   That Anthony koolaid is potent!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 02:12:32 PM
Jose Baez's spokesperson, Todd Black, is backtracking on a statement he made Wednesday night during a phone interview with CNN. He said Caylee was dead, but he had an explanation for his words Thursday.

Okay Now I was watching HLN when he said and he said alright, I was not edited It was LIVE....

Don't throw rotten bananas at me , But Don't you think the incompetence of both of these lawyers might give KC a chance at appeal?
And another thing I  understand completely they must do what is in the best interest of their client , but do the guys with law degrees actually believe that child is out their alive? Come on !! Speaking for myself only here , I do not have much of an education and I can see she gone just using commen sense. I guess having commen sense in not on the Bar exam.But thee are grown ARSE Adults with the best education...... They should be telling their client your in deep poo poo and lets make the best deal possible for you . And I do not buy for one minute " when Kc story comes out and it will everybody will understand" Okay we will understand what ? Why she killed that beautiful precious gift from God , when there are many people out there that would have loved to raise her and call her one of there own!!!!!!

I think JB was watching Primal Fear:
"I don't have to believe you. I don't care if you are innocent. I'm your mother, your father, your priest"
"Marty: I speak. You do not speak. Your job is to just sit there and look innocent."
"If your mother says she loves you, get a second opinion."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 02:12:45 PM
Statement from Todd Black, spokesman for Casey Anthony's attorney (PDF)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-10/42930396.pdf


WORDS DON'T LIE

Prime News host Mike Galanos spars with a Casey Anthony defense spokesman over the media's handling of the case.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?eref=rss_us#cnnSTCVideo


RAW INTERVIEW: Baez PR Firm Spokesman Admits Caylee Is Dead
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 02:12:54 PM
Baez:  "You are hurting my feelings, wahh wahhh!" ::MonkeyWaa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CynInOregon on October 16, 2008, 02:13:49 PM
Baez is now saying "from day one"   ::MonkeyConfused::   That Anthony koolaid is potent!

ABSOLUTELY !!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:13:55 PM
Jose
You make me sick. IF you believe that Caylee is alive- go ask your clients family to start searching for her. I mean-it has only been 122 days.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Exactly. 122 days and still no proper burial, no funeral, no respect for Caylee.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 02:14:58 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 16, 2008, 02:15:26 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::Here comes the bride....a jail house wedding is coming next  ::MonkeyDance::

well guys/gals i hafta get off to work...talk to you all later tonight ... have a wonderful day.... ***** monkey hugs ******


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WesleyBear on October 16, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
Why in the world was their press conference off in the middle of the road?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 02:16:04 PM
okay... imagine if they got hit by a car crossing that busy street?

who's crazy going to do conjugal visits with then get to represent her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CynInOregon on October 16, 2008, 02:16:23 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::

What time is the presser tomorrow to fix that one ?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:16:46 PM
Jose
You make me sick. IF you believe that Caylee is alive- go ask your clients family to start searching for her. I mean-it has only been 122 days.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Exactly. 122 days and still no proper burial, no funeral, no respect for Caylee.



If i didn't live so far away-i would drive down there myself and have a little talk with him. Oh -he makes me see red. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:17:05 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::

Yep and another tid bit he said...."Reports that I don't have all the CLE's required are untrue, have them in my office". How the heck can you have them in your office dumbo? He is obviously reading blogs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
I was going to post something but I am speechless ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::

What time is the presser tomorrow to fix that one ?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 02:18:21 PM
Why in the world was their press conference off in the middle of the road?

He won't allow them on his property ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:18:22 PM
I'm looking at the "trifecta" area on Hazeltine Drive in "bird's eye" view. It is making me ill. Water and wooded area easily accessible from the parking lot nearby or from TCP Drive. 

Wonder how she scouted this area out? Wonder what businesses, etc. are around?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 02:18:32 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!

Yes, you can still buy lifeboy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Pinki on October 16, 2008, 02:18:34 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 02:18:44 PM
Jose
You make me sick. IF you believe that Caylee is alive- go ask your clients family to start searching for her. I mean-it has only been 122 days.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Exactly. 122 days and still no proper burial, no funeral, no respect for Caylee.



If i didn't live so far away-i would drive down there myself and have a little talk with him. Oh -he makes me see red. 
RED is here?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 02:18:45 PM
Jose
You make me sick. IF you believe that Caylee is alive- go ask your clients family to start searching for her. I mean-it has only been 122 days.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Exactly. 122 days and still no proper burial, no funeral, no respect for Caylee.



If i didn't live so far away-i would drive down there myself and have a little talk with him. Oh -he makes me see red. 


I live 650 freakin miles away & I might do it any damn way!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::

Yep and another tid bit he said...."Reports that I don't have all the CLE's required are untrue, have them in my office". How the heck can you have them in your office dumbo? He is obviously reading blogs.

That, my friends, is a "Cindyism"  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 02:18:48 PM
Baez is now saying "from day one"   ::MonkeyConfused::   That Anthony koolaid is potent!

ABSOLUTELY !!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

I jumped into this late, what is with the Koolaide comments, I never got that! Someone splain pleeeze!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 02:19:01 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!

LOL  I say "holy hell" a lot

I had to turn Baez's presser off he makes me want to throw up more than I already do. ::MonkeyNoNo::

He walks like he is "hot sh!t" these days, man on either side, showin up late to pressers he calls...lookin around the media "Where is the Orlando Sentinel..oh there you are".  PUHLEEZE!  You aren't Brad Pitt you twitt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 02:19:19 PM
I'm looking at the "trifecta" area on Hazeltine Drive in "bird's eye" view. It is making me ill. Water and wooded area easily accessible from the parking lot nearby or from TCP Drive. 

Wonder how she scouted this area out? Wonder what businesses, etc. are around?

It's within minutes of her house (just a little south)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
Crap! what are we seeing!


nevermind!  ::MonkeyTongue::

who in the hooty hell is the camera person? The camera is swinging all around!
Well, the only thing I found news worthy in that was that there is indeed one person on more drugs than Cindy - the cameraman!!!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:19:50 PM
I'm looking at the "trifecta" area on Hazeltine Drive in "bird's eye" view. It is making me ill. Water and wooded area easily accessible from the parking lot nearby or from TCP Drive. 

Wonder how she scouted this area out? Wonder what businesses, etc. are around?

Oh I know it made me sick to my stomach ... I just hope Tes gets back soon to search that area


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:19:52 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:20:07 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!

you are crackin me up A-1!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 02:20:16 PM
I'm looking at the "trifecta" area on Hazeltine Drive in "bird's eye" view. It is making me ill. Water and wooded area easily accessible from the parking lot nearby or from TCP Drive. 

Wonder how she scouted this area out? Wonder what businesses, etc. are around?

I looked at the bird's eye view on that too, but couldn't see an apartment complex across the water... wasn;t that what red's pics looked like... like they were across the water from a three story, somewhat nice looking apartment?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 02:21:53 PM
That little whippersnapper, Baez, doesn't have sense enough to get out of the rain!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:24:28 PM
I'm looking at the "trifecta" area on Hazeltine Drive in "bird's eye" view. It is making me ill. Water and wooded area easily accessible from the parking lot nearby or from TCP Drive. 

Wonder how she scouted this area out? Wonder what businesses, etc. are around?

I looked at the bird's eye view on that too, but couldn't see an apartment complex across the water... wasn;t that what red's pics looked like... like they were across the water from a three story, somewhat nice looking apartment?

I'm not sure. I believe a poster said the pic looked like 6500 Hazeltine Drive and that is supposedly long-term airport parking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:24:55 PM
Did he really say.............."I have said from day one that my case looks really good if Caylee is found alive."

What a total moron.

stop it.
did he say that???
 ::MonkeyEek::

Yep and another tid bit he said...."Reports that I don't have all the CLE's required are untrue, have them in my office". How the heck can you have them in your office dumbo? He is obviously reading blogs.

Well here is a little bit of info for you Biaz You might outta start working on a different aproach to your case , because it aint looking good , She will not be found alive ..... your client is in jail for killing her ..... And by that 1% chance she might be and you find her I'll fly to Orlando and wash KC feet for a month along with wiping your arse


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 02:24:59 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!
I love you. ::MonkeyDance:: You crack me up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 02:25:00 PM
Notice the IF, not the WHEN.  Just another lying defense attorney, they come - they go.

He's in this to make his name a household name in the area, no care for children of any kind nevermind one that has been murdered & disposed of.

My thought when his name comes up, BJ=half assed & always thinking with the wrong head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 02:26:28 PM
Spokesman for Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
See the video from Headline News
Walter Pacheco, Bianca Prieto and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
1:14 PM EDT, October 16, 2008


Prosecutors not investigating comment

1:07 p.m. Orange Osceola State Attorney's Office spokesman Randy Means said his office is not looking into the comments made by Casey Anthony defense attorney spokesman Todd Black regarding Caylee Marie's death.

"Perhaps law enforcement may find his remarks intriguing," Means said, according to Danielle Tavernier, another spokesperson for the state attorney's office.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
My favorite part:

Baez as he's walking away " Okay, that's all.  I have no more questions."
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 02:27:52 PM
I said "hooty hell" in front of my mom the other day and shed threatned to get the "lifeboy soap".  Do they still make that kind of soap??  I just love to say that "hooty hell, hooty hell".  Must be where owls go when they are bad!!!!!
I love you. ::MonkeyDance:: You crack me up.
Why, thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:28:11 PM
Baez said they have tips but will not share them. They have a defense atty but will keep it a secret.

Is he kidding?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 02:29:16 PM
Hey Dolce, I think of Rob as George Clooney and Wreck is Brad Pitt (Bratt Pitt)!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 02:29:30 PM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

This map is for the 30th - the 1st night Tony was in NY and she said she was at Amy's - but she never made it there.  Look at #11 - I'm wondering about that area too and the time of day she seemed to be there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:29:43 PM
My favorite part:

Baez as he's walking away " Okay, that's all.  I have no more questions."
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Idiot-Idiot-Idiot  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
I am SO happy my life isn't in HIS hands!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:29:44 PM
My favorite part:

Baez as he's walking away " Okay, that's all.  I have no more questions."
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

OMG I Know and he also said disjustice instead of Injustice. He is a disgrace to the legal profession.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 02:30:11 PM
Help I can't get this to open

Possible witness speaks out! 2:32

http://www.cnn.com/video/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 02:32:45 PM
I believe whether or not Todd Black has ever discussed the issue of Caylee being deceased with JB, it is evident that TB thinks she's dead.  Maybe JB should reconsider firing TB, maybe TB will suddenly become ill and will be unable to represent JB in the near future. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:33:15 PM
Red's pic of dumpster


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:34:38 PM
Help I can't get this to open

Possible witness speaks out! 2:32

http://www.cnn.com/video/

This in on a couple in Dubai


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
Help I can't get this to open

Possible witness speaks out! 2:32

http://www.cnn.com/video/

It's NG Jeff Hopkins form last night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 02:35:55 PM
Thanks to everyone who answered me...and thanks for not thinking I'm dumb... ::MonkeyWink::

im way behind here, but i thought it was hilarious with everybody chiming in:

you're not dumb.. if i recall correctly.    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

get it?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
Help I can't get this to open

Possible witness speaks out! 2:32

http://www.cnn.com/video/

This in on a couple in Dubai

Try This
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/10/16/ng.casey.speaks.cnn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:36:32 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 02:36:52 PM
It has been stated that July 4th was the date that KC shows up speaking with LA.  That is very interesting as that is the reported day that the NOT TOO CONCERNED FOR THEIR GRAND DAUGHTER WHO THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IN MORE THAN 2 WEEKS, are so lovingly placing paver's under her playhouse in their backyard.

Now wouldn't average people in the same position of missing a grand daughter have been tracing her whereabouts, not working on a playhouse.  For all intensive purposes SHE IS NO LONGER RESIDING AT HOPESPRING DRIVE.  How many people do we know who do projects on HOLIDAYS?  I know some real workaholics & even they don't.

There really is something in that backyard.  Those people are not in the least bit worried about innocent Caylee remains being located.  They really aren't, if they were a plea would have been agreed to.  Just like NH they are banking on "no body, no case", really believe that stance is taken when all due care has been taken that the body will not be found.  Hoping to be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:37:18 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
Another stupid comment by Baez...

"I don't have just one client, I'm not Tom Hagen"

He's been watching The Godfather! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mary on October 16, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Did anyone get the presser from Baes. All I got was a short shot of Baez telling
a reporter from ch 9 that he was cancelling and telling him that he will respect
him and his client. It cut out after that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
It has been stated that July 4th was the date that KC shows up speaking with LA.  That is very interesting as that is the reported day that the NOT TOO CONCERNED FOR THEIR GRAND DAUGHTER WHO THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IN MORE THAN 2 WEEKS, are so lovingly placing paver's under her playhouse in their backyard.

Now wouldn't average people in the same position of missing a grand daughter have been tracing her whereabouts, not working on a playhouse.  For all intensive purposes SHE IS NO LONGER RESIDING AT HOPESPRING DRIVE.  How many people do we know who do projects on HOLIDAYS?  I know some real workaholics & even they don't.

There really is something in that backyard.  Those people are not in the least bit worried about innocent Caylee remains being located.  They really aren't, if they were a plea would have been agreed to.  Just like NH they are banking on "no body, no case", really believe that stance is taken when all due care has been taken that the body will not be found.  Hoping to be wrong.
I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 02:38:17 PM
My favorite part:

Baez as he's walking away " Okay, that's all.  I have no more questions."
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Out4Bull - yeppers - I giggled all the way to the kitchen for a snack on that one! 
Casey - must have answered all his questions! LMAoROF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:38:40 PM
Suddenly we have a witness that saw Casey with a shovel?  Where has this person been all this time and why are they not at the police station right now giving a statement and taking LE out to the location...maybe they already have?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 02:39:02 PM
Casey Anthony spokesman insists Caylee is alive 
Last Edited: Thursday, 16 Oct 2008, 1:54 PM EDT 
Created: Thursday, 16 Oct 2008, 1:54 PM EDT 


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- A spokesman Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez says a television network took his comments out of context to make it appear he said Caylee is dead.

Spokesman Todd Black said he never told Headline News that 3-year-old Caylee Anthony is dead. Black said Thursday the attorneys for her mother, Casey Anthony, believe Caylee is alive. A body has not been found.

The network interviewed Black on live TV Tuesday and repeated part of the interview Wednesday. Headline News stands by its report. It says the transcript shows Black said "this is a very serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

Casey Anthony was arrested Tuesday and charged with murdering her daughter.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7660020&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Statement from Todd Black, spokesman for Casey Anthony's attorney (PDF)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-10/42930396.pdf


++++++++++


Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:35 AM EDT, October 16, 2008

Attorney's spokesman says child is dead


7:35 a.m. A spokesman for Casey Anthony's defense team told a national television news station that her young daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, is dead.

Attorney Jose Baez's spokesman, Todd Black, was live on a phone interview on CNN Wednesday night when he said, "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

He faltered slightly after saying the girl died.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story


Prime News host Mike Galanos spars with a Casey Anthony defense spokesman over the media's handling of the case.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?eref=rss_us#cnnSTCVideo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:40:32 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 16, 2008, 02:41:11 PM
Nap time for me.  bbl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

On NG last night, LP said Cindy & Lee tried to convince him there were 2 Jeff Hopkins! This family is beyond help.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 02:42:42 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against rporting anything that might affect his business!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:43:05 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against rporting anything that might affect his business!! 

What business?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

Well I think if there was a real Jeff Hopkins or a real Juliette Lewis , they would have come forward already . This case has been national news for 3 months ... Their names have been out there for a while .... They would have had the decency to come forward and say LE was wrong , everybody is willing to jump forward and protect the innocent ..... That not the case here they do not exist


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against rporting anything that might affect his business!! 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Shiver me timbers!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:43:57 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 02:44:56 PM
Interesting statement by the reporter at the end of this video http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html

Says that Jose Baez could be suspended by the Florida Bar if they choose to because he has failed to take some continuing education courses that are required.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

And Good afternoon, Monkeys!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

On NG last night, LP said Cindy & Lee tried to convince him there were 2 Jeff Hopkins! This family is beyond help.
Iam sure there is probably well over hundreds of Jeffery Hopkins , but there was not 2 that worked for universal... Heck just go to ancestry . com and search for Jeffery Hopkins in that area thien do a birth search for zachary and that will tell you if Zachary Hopkins was ever born to Jeff Hopkins , crap Ill do that right now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
JEFF HOPKINS - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 15, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go to our special guest joining us tonight. Jeff Hopkins is with us. And according to mom Casey Anthony, Hopkins introduced her to Zenaida Gonzalez, the nanny that stole her child. Mr. Hopkins, thank you for being with us.

JEFF HOPKINS, ALLEGEDLY INTRODUCED CASEY TO BABY-SITTER ZENAIDA: Thank you. Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: Mr. Hopkins, what did you think when you learned that somehow you had gotten into the middle of a murder investigation?

HOPKINS: Well, my initial reaction there was definitely shock. I still had no clue what was going on until, of course, a few days later, when a detective showed up at my house.

GRACE: When did you first learn you had gotten involved?

HOPKINS: I assume it was the night that Cindy Anthony had called 911 because when the cops were at their house, I received a phone call from Lee Anthony, her brother, telling me that Casey said that she had been missing -- or Caylee had been missing for about 30 days. And she said that she had taken a trip or went on a trip to Jacksonville with Jeff Hopkins. And I, you know, informed them that maybe there was a different one at the time, you know, because it wasn`t me for sure.

GRACE: So that wasn`t you in the car with Casey Anthony?

HOPKINS: No.

GRACE: Did you ever know her? Did you guys work at the same place?

HOPKINS: Well, I did work at Universal. I didn`t work there after the year 2002. I`m not sure when she started, and I know she ended in around 2006. But we never did work together, actually.

GRACE: Did you ever know each other?

HOPKINS: We did know each other.

GRACE: How?

HOPKINS: We actually -- through elementary, middle and high school. We went to the same school here.

GRACE: So you did not know her through Universal? You knew her through going to school with her?

HOPKINS: Through going to school, yes.

GRACE: Did you ever know Zenaida Gonzalez?

HOPKINS: No, I don`t know who that is.

GRACE: Did Zenaida Gonzalez ever baby-sit your children?

HOPKINS: I have no children, Nancy.

GRACE: So her story becomes more and more fantastic. Do you expect that you will be a witness at trial?

HOPKINS: Yes.

GRACE: Why do you think that?

HOPKINS: Because I was told so by the detective.

GRACE: Long story short, after your ordeal with the justice system, what do you believe about little Caylee? Where is she?

HOPKINS: I have no idea where she is. And as far as, you know...

GRACE: When was the last time you actually spoke to Casey Anthony?

HOPKINS: July. I saw her at the Ale House.

GRACE: Everyone, we`ll all be right back. But as we go to break, it is National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Tonight, the Woman`s Personal Health Resource. It was founded nine years by an oncology nurse, Barbara, whose mom battled cancer and struggled with finding wigs and everything else she needed during her plight. The Woman`s Personal Resource provides products to help breast cancer patients -- skin care, scarves, turbans, exercise wear, lounge wear, swimsuits, all for mastectomy, lumpectomy, even recent surgery patients. If this battle touches your life, go to Womanspersonalhealth.com, or CNN.com/nancygrace. Together, we can win this battle.

<snipped>

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MET WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Yes, absolutely, and I`m telling you -- let me throw something in here, you know, talking about the gentleman, Hopkins.

One night, when I was in the residence, and I was talking about this Hopkins having introduced Zenaida to her. Cindy and Lee both jointly and at about the same time said, "oh, that`s another Hopkins. He`s got a boy named Zack."

And the reason this stuck in my mind is because I have a nephew named Zack. And I thought, well, that`s rather strange. All of a sudden we have two Hopkins, same age at the same time involved in the same situation.

I thought that was ludicrous but at the time they just damn near convinced me that there was two Hopkins. And it was Lee and Cindy, and they knew at that time that there was not two Hopkins.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 02:46:06 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....
Them not asking for a speedy trial just tells me that Baez knows that LE has more than he does - he knows not to force their cards.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:46:08 PM
Here is a photo of a hotel or some other structure that was under construction on Hazeltine Dr. Does anyone know how up-to-date this Virtual Earth is? I'm assuming it's not up-to-date. Anyway. I'm going to post this and then one of Red's search photos for comparison. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:46:40 PM
Red's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....

One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against rporting anything that might affect his business!! 

What business?!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

On NG last night, LP said Cindy & Lee tried to convince him there were 2 Jeff Hopkins! This family is beyond help.

I saw that.  What was really funny to me...I know it shouldn't be...was that very thing...if one Jeff doesn't have kids then there is another one...just like ZG.  Casey is such an expert liar because she has been trained since birth. The entire family does it...it amazes me how they don't even care if they are contradicted...they just keep on lying.  The very best thing they could have done was keep their mouths shut and let the attorneys do the talking. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 02:49:03 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....

One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 02:50:31 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....

One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.

I would think in this case the defense would want a speedy trial before Caylee's body is found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 02:51:43 PM
Red's
I thought this looked quite a bit like Reds - http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)

what do you think - It's at Semoran & Bent Pine?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 02:51:45 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

in casey's head....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: P00PKINZ on October 16, 2008, 02:52:39 PM
Its On Jeffery Hopkins last night on NG

Sorry did refresh before I posted again

Did anyone notice when NG asked Hopkins if he knew ZG he said no and then he also said he has no children.  Wonder where the real Jeffrey Hopkins is and where is the little boy named Zach that Casey claims ZG also babysat? 

On NG last night, LP said Cindy & Lee tried to convince him there were 2 Jeff Hopkins! This family is beyond help.

I saw that.  What was really funny to me...I know it shouldn't be...was that very thing...if one Jeff doesn't have kids then there is another one...just like ZG.  Casey is such an expert liar because she has been trained since birth. The entire family does it...it amazes me how they don't even care if they are contradicted...they just keep on lying.  The very best thing they could have done was keep their mouths shut and let the attorneys do the talking. 

At this point the attorney's should keep their mouths shut.  Look at Todd Black right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....

One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.

I would think in this case the defense would want a speedy trial before Caylee's body is found.

Maybe they think it is too late for that, maybe they think that the body will be found before a "speedy" trial will be held. And they know they will need all the time in the world to prepare their defense. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against reporting anything that might affect his business!! 

What business?!

LOL...didn't you hear he has more clients that just Casey...LOL...yep...double charging....since he spent 4-5 hr. per day with Casey plus several night visits....ummmmm someone needs to check his billing practices!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
JEFF HOPKINS - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 15, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go to our special guest joining us tonight. Jeff Hopkins is with us. And according to mom Casey Anthony, Hopkins introduced her to Zenaida Gonzalez, the nanny that stole her child. Mr. Hopkins, thank you for being with us.

JEFF HOPKINS, ALLEGEDLY INTRODUCED CASEY TO BABY-SITTER ZENAIDA: Thank you. Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: Mr. Hopkins, what did you think when you learned that somehow you had gotten into the middle of a murder investigation?

HOPKINS: Well, my initial reaction there was definitely shock. I still had no clue what was going on until, of course, a few days later, when a detective showed up at my house.

GRACE: When did you first learn you had gotten involved?

HOPKINS: I assume it was the night that Cindy Anthony had called 911 because when the cops were at their house, I received a phone call from Lee Anthony, her brother, telling me that Casey said that she had been missing -- or Caylee had been missing for about 30 days. And she said that she had taken a trip or went on a trip to Jacksonville with Jeff Hopkins. And I, you know, informed them that maybe there was a different one at the time, you know, because it wasn`t me for sure.

GRACE: So that wasn`t you in the car with Casey Anthony?

HOPKINS: No.

GRACE: Did you ever know her? Did you guys work at the same place?

HOPKINS: Well, I did work at Universal. I didn`t work there after the year 2002. I`m not sure when she started, and I know she ended in around 2006. But we never did work together, actually.

GRACE: Did you ever know each other?

HOPKINS: We did know each other.

GRACE: How?

HOPKINS: We actually -- through elementary, middle and high school. We went to the same school here.

GRACE: So you did not know her through Universal? You knew her through going to school with her?

HOPKINS: Through going to school, yes.

GRACE: Did you ever know Zenaida Gonzalez?

HOPKINS: No, I don`t know who that is.

GRACE: Did Zenaida Gonzalez ever baby-sit your children?

HOPKINS: I have no children, Nancy.

GRACE: So her story becomes more and more fantastic. Do you expect that you will be a witness at trial?

HOPKINS: Yes.

GRACE: Why do you think that?

HOPKINS: Because I was told so by the detective.

GRACE: Long story short, after your ordeal with the justice system, what do you believe about little Caylee? Where is she?

HOPKINS: I have no idea where she is. And as far as, you know...

GRACE: When was the last time you actually spoke to Casey Anthony?

HOPKINS: July. I saw her at the Ale House.

GRACE: Everyone, we`ll all be right back. But as we go to break, it is National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Tonight, the Woman`s Personal Health Resource. It was founded nine years by an oncology nurse, Barbara, whose mom battled cancer and struggled with finding wigs and everything else she needed during her plight. The Woman`s Personal Resource provides products to help breast cancer patients -- skin care, scarves, turbans, exercise wear, lounge wear, swimsuits, all for mastectomy, lumpectomy, even recent surgery patients. If this battle touches your life, go to Womanspersonalhealth.com, or CNN.com/nancygrace. Together, we can win this battle.

<snipped>

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MET WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Yes, absolutely, and I`m telling you -- let me throw something in here, you know, talking about the gentleman, Hopkins.

One night, when I was in the residence, and I was talking about this Hopkins having introduced Zenaida to her. Cindy and Lee both jointly and at about the same time said, "oh, that`s another Hopkins. He`s got a boy named Zack."

And the reason this stuck in my mind is because I have a nephew named Zack. And I thought, well, that`s rather strange. All of a sudden we have two Hopkins, same age at the same time involved in the same situation.

I thought that was ludicrous but at the time they just damn near convinced me that there was two Hopkins. And it was Lee and Cindy, and they knew at that time that there was not two Hopkins.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html


See what I mean?  I could not even keep a straight face as a juror if I had to listen to the lies.  I would be excused because all I would do is laugh everytime I saw Baez trying to convince me that Casey didn't do anything and that Caylee is still alive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
Red's
I thought this looked quite a bit like Reds - http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)

what do you think - It's at Semoran & Bent Pine?

I think you are onto something. Do you know what the name of the complex is?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 02:54:43 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....


He IS so busy, ya know  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He'll have to actually DRIVE to the jail to see his girl now!
One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.

I would think in this case the defense would want a speedy trial before Caylee's body is found.

Maybe they think it is too late for that, maybe they think that the body will be found before a "speedy" trial will be held. And they know they will need all the time in the world to prepare their defense. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:55:02 PM
Is he saying anything worthwhile??? I have no sound boo hoo

Not a thing...he obviously has overdosed on Anthony kool aid!

Oh I loved the veiled THREAT to the press...LOL...he is cautioning them against reporting anything that might affect his business!! 

What business?!

LOL...didn't you hear he has more clients that just Casey...LOL...yep...double charging....since he spent 4-5 hr. per day with Casey plus several night visits....ummmmm someone needs to check his billing practices!!


Maybe now that Casey is behind bars again..he can get some work done.  :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 02:55:36 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....


He IS so busy, ya know  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He'll have to actually DRIVE to the jail to see his girl now!
One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.

I would think in this case the defense would want a speedy trial before Caylee's body is found.

Maybe they think it is too late for that, maybe they think that the body will be found before a "speedy" trial will be held. And they know they will need all the time in the world to prepare their defense. Just a thought.


I sure massacred that.  Sorry about that.


He IS so busy, ya know  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He'll have to actually DRIVE to the jail to see his girl now!
One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 02:55:46 PM
Red's
I thought this looked quite a bit like Reds - http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)

what do you think - It's at Semoran & Bent Pine?

Hm... this looks a lot like the shape of the condos/apts from the pic, with the wide open space between the floors and such... there is a construction area to the right that looks like there are a lot of red dumpsters... not sure how old the map is, but perhaps some of those dirt road areas where the dumpsters are were paved by now?  Is that side where you are thinking?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
Red's
I thought this looked quite a bit like Reds - http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrb63786rby3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27645532&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)

I sure don't - I found it by looking for several days.  This is just north of the airport - I'm thinking dumpster - maybe?  Also look at the other map for the 30th - I posted it a couple of pages back and check out #11 - she was only in that are one time according to all the pings. 

what do you think - It's at Semoran & Bent Pine?

I think you are onto something. Do you know what the name of the complex is?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:56:51 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....

One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.


LMAO!  Who is going to convince Casey she needs to make a deal?  We already know how well that went the first time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 02:57:03 PM
I give up on that last one. Sorry about that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 02:57:13 PM
Interesting statement by the reporter at the end of this video http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html

Says that Jose Baez could be suspended by the Florida Bar if they choose to because he has failed to take some continuing education courses that are required.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

And Good afternoon, Monkeys!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Brandi...I am sure someone must to be checking this out....sure don't want any reason for an appeal on ineffectual counsel!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 02:57:36 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




YOU ROCK!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 03:00:04 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

Sorry, but what does that mean, "organic evidence"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
I give up on that last one. Sorry about that!

Don't worry everyone has problems with the quotes.


If they find Caylee's body...they will deal...that is the only reason that Baez will even approach that subject to Casey.  Right now it's all up to the prosecution. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 03:01:54 PM
goodnmad - I messed up the last post ::MonkeyConfused::

I found those apartments after days of looking - and they seemed to have fit the roofing lines of RED's (sorry, don't know nothing about roofs or what they are called).

Check out the map of the 30th - I posted it a couple of pages back and check out #11 - it's the only time she was in that area according to pings.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

Sorry, but what does that mean, "organic evidence"?


That would be more trace evidence is being tested.  Such as fluids, DNA...etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 03:02:44 PM
I give up on that last one. Sorry about that!

Spring2 - I fixed your avatar for you.  The only thing you did wrong was choose the wrong photobucket link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 03:03:17 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des


::MonkeyTongue:: Thanks Des!  Your the best!!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
There are two types of trace evidence which crime scene technicians collect at the beginning of an investigation. The first is inorganic trace evidence, which includes hairs, fibers, tool marks, ballistics, glass, paint and other evidence that might be found on or around a crime scene. The second is organic trace evidence, which refers to trace evidence that comes from a human or animal.

Organic Trace Evidence: Fluids

Fluids are some of the most telling organic trace evidence because so much can be determined from their composition. Fluids left at a crime scene might include saliva, semen, sweat, and vomit, which can all be run through a large gamut of tests at the medical examiner’s laboratory.

The first test that is run on any fluids collected from a crime scene is called polymarking, which is a basic DNA test. If the person whose fluids are found at the crime scene has ever had his or her DNA recorded in law enforcement systems, or if the police already have a suspect, a DNA match will tell them whether or not their suspect is the perpetrator (or victim).

Fluids might also tell the medical examiner if the person’s whose fluids they have found has any type of disease or defect, and might also prove whether or not the person is male or female. At the crime scene, a spatter, trail or pool of fluids might give law enforcement an idea about how the crime occurred.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 03:03:47 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

Sorry, but what does that mean, "organic evidence"?


of the earth or of the body???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

Sorry, but what does that mean, "organic evidence"?


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html

Organic Trace Evidence: Collections from Crime Scenes
 By Steve Thompson, published Sep 22, 2006


There are two types of trace evidence which crime scene technicians collect at the beginning of an investigation. The first is inorganic trace evidence, which includes hairs, fibers, tool marks, ballistics, glass, paint and other evidence that might be found on or around a crime scene. The second is organic trace evidence, which refers to trace evidence that comes from a human or animal.

Organic Trace Evidence: Fluids

Fluids are some of the most telling organic trace evidence because so much can be determined from their composition. Fluids left at a crime scene might include saliva, semen, sweat, and vomit, which can all be run through a large gamut of tests at the medical examiner’s laboratory.

The first test that is run on any fluids collected from a crime scene is called polymarking, which is a basic DNA test. If the person whose fluids are found at the crime scene has ever had his or her DNA recorded in law enforcement systems, or if the police already have a suspect, a DNA match will tell them whether or not their suspect is the perpetrator (or victim).

Fluids might also tell the medical examiner if the person’s whose fluids they have found has any type of disease or defect, and might also prove whether or not the person is male or female. At the crime scene, a spatter, trail or pool of fluids might give law enforcement an idea about how the crime occurred.

Organic Trace Evidence: Blood

Blood, like fluids, can tell quite a bit about the crime that occurred and about the blood left at the crime scene. Often, law enforcement will find not only the victim’s blood, but also the perpetrator’s. Blood stain analysis can help crime scene technicians to reconstruct the crime, often through photographing or “stringing”, which involves connecting string from each spatter of blood to show the sequence of events during the crime.

Blood also will give DNA evidence as well as evidence of a disease or whether the victim or perpetrator was male or female.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 03:05:38 PM
I give up on that last one. Sorry about that!

Don't worry everyone has problems with the quotes.


If they find Caylee's body...they will deal...that is the only reason that Baez will even approach that subject to Casey.  Right now it's all up to the prosecution. 

It's a sick freak who can know a mom killed her baby and can do what he does.  I would like to knock that smirk right off his face!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 03:06:08 PM
goodnmad - I messed up the last post ::MonkeyConfused::

I found those apartments after days of looking - and they seemed to have fit the roofing lines of RED's (sorry, don't know nothing about roofs or what they are called).

Check out the map of the 30th - I posted it a couple of pages back and check out #11 - it's the only time she was in that area according to pings.



that complex has a lot of water and plenty of wooded area around. do you think the dumpster photo is also at this complex?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:06:38 PM
Anything such as fingerprints, blood, fluids, body parts can be considered organic evidence.  LP could be right about the fluids on the plastic trash bag. Hmmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
There are two types of trace evidence which crime scene technicians collect at the beginning of an investigation. The first is inorganic trace evidence, which includes hairs, fibers, tool marks, ballistics, glass, paint and other evidence that might be found on or around a crime scene. The second is organic trace evidence, which refers to trace evidence that comes from a human or animal.

Organic Trace Evidence: Fluids

Fluids are some of the most telling organic trace evidence because so much can be determined from their composition. Fluids left at a crime scene might include saliva, semen, sweat, and vomit, which can all be run through a large gamut of tests at the medical examiner’s laboratory.

The first test that is run on any fluids collected from a crime scene is called polymarking, which is a basic DNA test. If the person whose fluids are found at the crime scene has ever had his or her DNA recorded in law enforcement systems, or if the police already have a suspect, a DNA match will tell them whether or not their suspect is the perpetrator (or victim).

Fluids might also tell the medical examiner if the person’s whose fluids they have found has any type of disease or defect, and might also prove whether or not the person is male or female. At the crime scene, a spatter, trail or pool of fluids might give law enforcement an idea about how the crime occurred.

Organic Trace Evidence: Blood

Blood, like fluids, can tell quite a bit about the crime that occurred and about the blood left at the crime scene. Often, law enforcement will find not only the victim’s blood, but also the perpetrator’s. Blood stain analysis can help crime scene technicians to reconstruct the crime, often through photographing or “stringing”, which involves connecting string from each spatter of blood to show the sequence of events during the crime.

Blood also will give DNA evidence as well as evidence of a disease or whether the victim or perpetrator was male or female.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=organic+evidence&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 03:07:28 PM
I give up on that last one. Sorry about that!

Spring2 - I fixed your avatar for you.  The only thing you did wrong was choose the wrong photobucket link.

Thank you!  Did you see me going crazy with it??  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 16, 2008, 03:07:57 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
Wow!!! I pulled a Klaas....yipppeeeee!  Am I getting smarter or what?  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:08:41 PM



LMAO!  Who is going to convince Casey she needs to make a deal?  We already know how well that went the first time.

since you mentioned it...LOL...I would love to know EXACTLY how LP came to bail Casey out. WHO contacted who? Who did he talk to that said if he bailed her out she would assist in the search for Caylee?  When and how did he realize she was not going to cooperate? And why, when he realized...and goodness it couldn't have taken too long, that she was NOT going to cooperate, didn't rescind the bail? LP is not a novice in this business and I am amazed that the was snookered by this family. I like the details and so far I don't have any real details about this nad it bugs me ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 03:09:47 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des



It appears to me that the trunk was the jackpot (thus far). Seems that between the trunk and bag, they retrieved a vast amount of incriminating evidence. Hopefully it proves "beyond a reasonable doubt".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 03:09:52 PM
I just saw on FOX that OCSO is going to try to get a conviction based on hair and air samples and DNA.   Boy oh boy!  I sure hope they have all their ducks in a row...the defense is going to tear into that evidence like a mad dog. 

BTW...another question....did anyone notice how NG kept mentioning that Baez DID NOT insist on a speedy trial venue for Casey?  That is a red flag folks...the defense needs all the time they can get to dispute the evidence and the longer they stall the better.  Hmmmm.  Just thinking here....


He IS so busy, ya know  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He'll have to actually DRIVE to the jail to see his girl now!
One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.

Actually, I thought it was "normal" for defense teams to drag a case on as long as possible. Maybe I am wrong.

I would think in this case the defense would want a speedy trial before Caylee's body is found.

Maybe they think it is too late for that, maybe they think that the body will be found before a "speedy" trial will be held. And they know they will need all the time in the world to prepare their defense. Just a thought.


I sure massacred that.  Sorry about that.


He IS so busy, ya know  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He'll have to actually DRIVE to the jail to see his girl now!
One of the attys on the show said it could also be to have time to work out a deal. I think its simple stupidity on JB's part.


I think NG was trying to say that the defense should move for a speedy trial because that would mean that the state has less time to get it together to seek the death penalty, but yes, in these types of cases it is typical for the defense to move for more time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:10:05 PM
Interesting statement by the reporter at the end of this video http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html

Says that Jose Baez could be suspended by the Florida Bar if they choose to because he has failed to take some continuing education courses that are required.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

And Good afternoon, Monkeys!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hey Brandi, it always takes me a few to answer you b/c I keep staring at your avi! I watched the video and I wonder, if all this is brought up to KC that her council is not competent, everyone knows how expensive this is going to be, that they will force her to take someone who actually knows what they are doing so she can't do an appeal based on that. Did I say that right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:10:13 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

she did and I took it as probably dirt..perhaps from the shovel, her boots etc...just guessing of course


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:12:10 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

Sorry, but what does that mean, "organic evidence"?


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html

Organic Trace Evidence: Collections from Crime Scenes
 By Steve Thompson, published Sep 22, 2006


There are two types of trace evidence which crime scene technicians collect at the beginning of an investigation. The first is inorganic trace evidence, which includes hairs, fibers, tool marks, ballistics, glass, paint and other evidence that might be found on or around a crime scene. The second is organic trace evidence, which refers to trace evidence that comes from a human or animal.

Organic Trace Evidence: Fluids

Fluids are some of the most telling organic trace evidence because so much can be determined from their composition. Fluids left at a crime scene might include saliva, semen, sweat, and vomit, which can all be run through a large gamut of tests at the medical examiner’s laboratory.

The first test that is run on any fluids collected from a crime scene is called polymarking, which is a basic DNA test. If the person whose fluids are found at the crime scene has ever had his or her DNA recorded in law enforcement systems, or if the police already have a suspect, a DNA match will tell them whether or not their suspect is the perpetrator (or victim).

Fluids might also tell the medical examiner if the person’s whose fluids they have found has any type of disease or defect, and might also prove whether or not the person is male or female. At the crime scene, a spatter, trail or pool of fluids might give law enforcement an idea about how the crime occurred.

Organic Trace Evidence: Blood

Blood, like fluids, can tell quite a bit about the crime that occurred and about the blood left at the crime scene. Often, law enforcement will find not only the victim’s blood, but also the perpetrator’s. Blood stain analysis can help crime scene technicians to reconstruct the crime, often through photographing or “stringing”, which involves connecting string from each spatter of blood to show the sequence of events during the crime.

Blood also will give DNA evidence as well as evidence of a disease or whether the victim or perpetrator was male or female.


thanks Klaass....my guess was allllll wrong!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 03:12:10 PM
Thank you Blonde, Klaas, and LaLa's for the legal discription of "Organic Evidence". 

WOW!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I have hopes again!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
FYI for those crimesleuths wanting to know more:

Gas Chromotography is most likely the method used to test the chloroform samples.  If you read all this crap I post you will also see how the defense is going to try to refute this evidence.  Actually they probably used two of these techniques to test it...the GC and Mass Spec. 



Forensic Evidence Analysis

 

Forensics

     In order to begin analysis of suspected substances, the elements must first be separated into organic and inorganic compounds. Organic compounds contain carbon in combination with hydrogen, nitrogen, sulfur, chlorine, and bromine. Most of the compounds analyzed in crime laboratories are organic.

 

SPECTROPHOTOMETRY

    This analysis identifies substances by their absorption of different wavelengths of light. Spectrophotometry is a basic tool which requires the substance to be in an almost pure form. For this reason, it is not used as often anymore, since it's hard to get a substance in that state.

CHROMATOGRAPHY

    This technique is used to separate the different mixtures of a substance. There is both a liquid phase and a gas phase, as well as a moving phase and a stationary phase. The molecules will separate into liquid (stationary) phase and gas (moving) phase.

   The materials in the moving (gas) phase will move forward at a faster rate than those in the stationary (liquid) phase, finishing the testing at different times. There are three types of chromatography: Gas Chromatography (GC), High-Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC), and Thin Layer Chromatography.

    Gas Chromatography

    " Gas Chromatography permits rapid separation of complex mixtures into individual compounds."  A written record (chromatogram) is kept. The chromatogram will show peaks corresponding to the individual components. It can take a drug, which may be a mixture of several different components and break it down to each individual one. With this process, the sample being analyzed must first be vaporized then sent through a heated column. This is not a definitive test.

  Mass Spectrometry

   The biggest draw back to the Gas Chromatography, is that it is not a definitive (specific) test. However, when combined with Mass Spectrometry, it becomes definitive. The separation of the compounds are first done in the Gas Chromatography.

   After that's completed, it will flow into the Mass Spectrometry. This is a high vacuum chamber where the components will be hit with high energy electrons. The molecules then lose electrons, pick up positively charged ions, and break apart into smaller fragments.

   The smaller fragments then pass through a magnetic field where they will separate according to their individual masses. No two substances produces the same fragmentation pattern, so this test produces a specific "fingerprint" pattern.

    High-Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC)

     With HPLC, " As the liquid moving phase is pumped through the column, a sample is injected into the column." As the liquid is pumped through the column, it is separated into different components.

   The advantage to this technique is that it can be done at room temperature. This technique is good for analyzing heat sensitive explosives or drugs.

   Thin Layer Chromatography

    This techniques uses the solid stationary phase and the liquid moving phase to cause the separation of compounds. A thin layer plate is coated with a granular material and becomes the stationary phase.

   It's held into place with a bonding agent, such as plaster of paris,  then placed upright in a closed chamber that holds liquid.

   Once separation occurs, the plates are either put under ultra violet lights in order to visualize them, or sprayed with a chemical reagent that causes the material to show up as spots.

   If the suspect sample and the control materials travel the distance at the same time, then suspected sample material will be identified as matching the control.

   This is not a definitive test though because there's always the chance that other substances can migrate up the plate in the same way.

ELECTROPHORESIS

Electrophoresis separates protein mixtures according to their migration rates. It does this by using electric current attached to a glass plate which forces the molecules to migrate across the plate. The proteins will migrate according to their electrical charge and size.

   The proteins in the blood, as well as DNA fragments, can be separated this way. DNA movement goes according to size. Smaller fragments will move across the plate at a faster rate than larger fragments.

   Once separated, they will show up in band patterns.

Republished from original Forensics Talk weblog
 
http://harfordmedlegal.typepad.com/forensics_talk/forensic-evidence-analysi.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 03:14:28 PM
goodnmad - I messed up the last post ::MonkeyConfused::

I found those apartments after days of looking - and they seemed to have fit the roofing lines of RED's (sorry, don't know nothing about roofs or what they are called).

Check out the map of the 30th - I posted it a couple of pages back and check out #11 - it's the only time she was in that area according to pings.



that complex has a lot of water and plenty of wooded area around. do you think the dumpster photo is also at this complex?

that complex is just north of the airport - that's what I'm thinking.  Did you look at the map of the 30th yet?  Let me know what you think of that area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:15:20 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

she did and I took it as probably dirt..perhaps from the shovel, her boots etc...just guessing of course

You might not be wrong...it could very well be soil samples.  Don't sell that idea short.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
Wow!!! I pulled a Klaas....yipppeeeee!  Am I getting smarter or what?  LOL

You beat me, LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 03:15:27 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????
LA's DNA?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:17:34 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

she did and I took it as probably dirt..perhaps from the shovel, her boots etc...just guessing of course

You might not be wrong...it could very well be soil samples.  Don't sell that idea short.

whatever it is I hope it is conclusive... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Stacey on October 16, 2008, 03:17:37 PM
Hello to all monkeys

This just bugs the heck out of me.
CA, GA,LA, Casey and JB are all saying Caylee is alive and they can't tell anyone any details they have to keep it secert. BOY OH BOY you nuts LE is here to help you can trust them Casey did when she called 911 fearing for her saftey.
If it's not Caylee then tell who it is because the family of this person need to know so they can start searching for their loved one.
They are just a pack of nuts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 03:17:39 PM



LMAO!  Who is going to convince Casey she needs to make a deal?  We already know how well that went the first time.

since you mentioned it...LOL...I would love to know EXACTLY how LP came to bail Casey out. WHO contacted who? Who did he talk to that said if he bailed her out she would assist in the search for Caylee?  When and how did he realize she was not going to cooperate? And why, when he realized...and goodness it couldn't have taken too long, that she was NOT going to cooperate, didn't rescind the bail? LP is not a novice in this business and I am amazed that the was snookered by this family. I like the details and so far I don't have any real details about this nad it bugs me ::MonkeyWink::
  I do remember after he rescinded the bail he claimed that Lee was calling him constantly begging him to change his mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 03:17:44 PM
Okay looked at ancestry.com there is alot of JH I would have to have birth year , parents names possibly , There is no florida birth records , I wish I could do county searches


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 03:18:06 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????
LA's DNA?
Comparing evidence from the bag to LA DNA????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littletxlady on October 16, 2008, 03:18:18 PM
I have been wondering if the LE took samples of dirt, grass, etc. from under KC's car. They might be able to match it to a specific area or plant life or even to the dirt on the shovel. Just a thought...back to lurking....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 03:18:40 PM
Whew....my ear hurts....been on phone for most of the day.....*scoop-o-poop*....both Body Farm...and ORNL....have new...different types for different departments....organic evidence in hand right now as I type....that is being tested...

LP is in court right now...and told me what time to call him back....hope we get that press pass...I'm waiting for a return call from FL LE re tracking down LA's Legal Eagle......also called Larry Garrison...only Got VM...will try again later....

Phone is ringy dingy...BBS.....Des




Did you just say "organic"?

she did and I took it as probably dirt..perhaps from the shovel, her boots etc...just guessing of course

Don't know...but they sound pretty *excited* about whatever it is......Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:18:42 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????

Maybe they have a suspected area, or found some evidence in a wooded area, etc. and found KC's dna there. No way to explain why she would have been in that wooded area? Possibly. I hope she puked, bad sushi, not conscience.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:18:50 PM



LMAO!  Who is going to convince Casey she needs to make a deal?  We already know how well that went the first time.

since you mentioned it...LOL...I would love to know EXACTLY how LP came to bail Casey out. WHO contacted who? Who did he talk to that said if he bailed her out she would assist in the search for Caylee?  When and how did he realize she was not going to cooperate? And why, when he realized...and goodness it couldn't have taken too long, that she was NOT going to cooperate, didn't rescind the bail? LP is not a novice in this business and I am amazed that the was snookered by this family. I like the details and so far I don't have any real details about this nad it bugs me ::MonkeyWink::

I still say had everyone left the Padillas alone we would know all the answers as to where Caylee is now.  They had a plan and it would have worked because they intended to use Casey's weaknesses to their advantage but Baez and Cindy stepped in and stopped all that.  I don't know for sure how LP came to decide he would bail her out, but their plan just might have worked but people got in the way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 03:19:05 PM
This was posted in the Orlando Sentinel - Look at the address - must not have too many cameras around ::MonkeyNoNo::


TPC DRIVE, 7100 block, 12:21 a.m. Oct. 6, someone burglarized a business and stole over $7,000 worth of computers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 03:19:07 PM
Spokesman for Casey Anthony's defense team: Caylee is dead
See the video from Headline News
Walter Pacheco, Bianca Prieto and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
2:58 PM EDT, October 16, 2008

TODAY'S UPDATES


Baez says team search for a 'live' child
2:31 p.m.


Attorney Jose Baez said his legal team believes missing Caylee Marie Anthony is alive, despite a comment made by a spokesman for his firm that stated the opposite.

"Casey Marie Anthony's charged with first-degree murder of the death of her child. So for him [firm spokesman Todd Black] to say that this case is about the death of a child or what will happen to Casey isn't exactly an inaccurate statement," Baez said at a press conference this afternoon held to dispel rumors and clarify statements.

"Todd Black is not a lawyer. He doesn't sit in on our meetings. He doesn't sit in on our client conversations. He doesn't have any legal opinions whatsoever, " Baez said. "He is simply a spokesman for our firm."

Baez reaffirmed that Black's comment was taken out of context.

"For reports to be thrown out there that we think otherwise is just inaccurate and completely false," Baez said.

A team of lawyers, including one that is qualified to defend a death penalty case, is working on Casey Anthony's legal team, Baez said. He would not name the lawyer.

"We are fully prepared to battle it to the end," Baez said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story


RAW INTERVIEW: Baez PR Firm Spokesman Admits Caylee Is Dead
http://www.wftv.com/video/17728272/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Todd Black Says Comment That Caylee Is Dead Was Out Of Context
http://www.wftv.com/video/17729306/index.html


Spokesman For Casey's Attorney Says He Didn't Say What He Said
http://www.wftv.com/video/17728926/index.html


Statement From PR Firm Representing Baez (PDF)
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/1016/17728061.pdf



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 03:19:10 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Hello to all monkeys

This just bugs the heck out of me.
CA, GA,LA, Casey and JB are all saying Caylee is alive and they can't tell anyone any details they have to keep it secert. BOY OH BOY you nuts LE is here to help you can trust them Casey did when she called 911 fearing for her saftey.
If it's not Caylee then tell who it is because the family of this person need to know so they can start searching for their loved one.
They are just a pack of nuts

you won't get any argument from me on that one!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
I have been wondering if the LE took samples of dirt, grass, etc. from under KC's car. They might be able to match it to a specific area or plant life or even to the dirt on the shovel. Just a thought...back to lurking....

that's along the lines of was what I was thinking....don't lurk...come and share your thoughts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 03:21:27 PM
Interesting statement by the reporter at the end of this video http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html

Says that Jose Baez could be suspended by the Florida Bar if they choose to because he has failed to take some continuing education courses that are required.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

And Good afternoon, Monkeys!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hey Brandi, it always takes me a few to answer you b/c I keep staring at your avi! I watched the video and I wonder, if all this is brought up to KC that her council is not competent, everyone knows how expensive this is going to be, that they will force her to take someone who actually knows what they are doing so she can't do an appeal based on that. Did I say that right?

Well, I think the only way Casey can be "forced" to have a different attorney is if Baez does indeed get disbarred. I don't think that will happen. He'd probably just have to agree to take those courses. JMO ... About the avatar (hehe) it's my first attempt at animation. I am honored that it is mesmerizing some of you!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 03:21:45 PM
Rob reminds me of my youngest son and I guess that I take it personally when someone picks on him.  grrrrrrrrrrrr
Aw thats very sweet!
Rob, whenever I think of you I picture Ben Roethlisburger...  ::MonkeyTongue::



welllllll now.. i LIKE the way you THINK :)
*back to reading earlier posts*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This was posted in the Orlando Sentinel - Look at the address - must not have too many cameras around ::MonkeyNoNo::


TPC DRIVE, 7100 block, 12:21 a.m. Oct. 6, someone burglarized a business and stole over $7,000 worth of computers.
Does this have anything to do with the "other" Zenaida Gonzales who was burglarized at her work?  She was posting on a blog about moms and daycare.  There was a question and a poster said she had a son named "Zacharey" IIRC and she had been interviewed by police.  What if Lee was in on that burglary? Just speculating...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:23:24 PM



LMAO!  Who is going to convince Casey she needs to make a deal?  We already know how well that went the first time.

since you mentioned it...LOL...I would love to know EXACTLY how LP came to bail Casey out. WHO contacted who? Who did he talk to that said if he bailed her out she would assist in the search for Caylee?  When and how did he realize she was not going to cooperate? And why, when he realized...and goodness it couldn't have taken too long, that she was NOT going to cooperate, didn't rescind the bail? LP is not a novice in this business and I am amazed that the was snookered by this family. I like the details and so far I don't have any real details about this nad it bugs me ::MonkeyWink::

I still say had everyone left the Padillas alone we would know all the answers as to where Caylee is now.  They had a plan and it would have worked because they intended to use Casey's weaknesses to their advantage but Baez and Cindy stepped in and stopped all that.  I don't know for sure how LP came to decide he would bail her out, but their plan just might have worked but people got in the way.

you might be right....I wasn't knocking LP or his plan...just wondered how it started...nosy ya know ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????

Maybe they have a suspected area, or found some evidence in a wooded area, etc. and found KC's dna there. No way to explain why she would have been in that wooded area? Possibly. I hope she puked, bad sushi, not conscience.
maybe from articles of clothes found....bones???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
This was posted in the Orlando Sentinel - Look at the address - must not have too many cameras around ::MonkeyNoNo::


TPC DRIVE, 7100 block, 12:21 a.m. Oct. 6, someone burglarized a business and stole over $7,000 worth of computers.
Does this have anything to do with the "other" Zenaida Gonzales who was burglarized at her work?  She was posting on a blog about moms and daycare.  There was a question and a poster said she had a son named "Zacharey" IIRC and she had been interviewed by police.  What if Lee was in on that burglary? Just speculating...
  Clarifying my own post...the poster had a son named Zachary, not ZG. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:23:56 PM
Hello to all monkeys

This just bugs the heck out of me.
CA, GA,LA, Casey and JB are all saying Caylee is alive and they can't tell anyone any details they have to keep it secert. BOY OH BOY you nuts LE is here to help you can trust them Casey did when she called 911 fearing for her saftey.
If it's not Caylee then tell who it is because the family of this person need to know so they can start searching for their loved one.
They are just a pack of nuts

And don't you think those jurors are going to wonder why they are never told who these people are that have offered these tips and why they won't tell LE so they can go get Caylee?  You better believe that Baez had better have some witnesses ready to prove the reasons they claim she's still alive.  Then what happens?  If true, how neglectful will Baez be if he did not inform the FBI and LE about the possibility of Caylee being in such and such a place?  He can't give them any information to find Caylee because if he does and it turns out to be true...who's in trouble then?  Can you imagine if they found Caylee from information Baez was holding and she had only been dead for a day or so?  Who's the bad guy then? Of course, we all know there is no evidence to prove she's alive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 16, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????

Maybe they have a suspected area, or found some evidence in a wooded area, etc. and found KC's dna there. No way to explain why she would have been in that wooded area? Possibly. I hope she puked, bad sushi, not conscience.
maybe from articles of clothes found....bones???
a dress?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 03:24:35 PM
I have been wondering if the LE took samples of dirt, grass, etc. from under KC's car. They might be able to match it to a specific area or plant life or even to the dirt on the shovel. Just a thought...back to lurking....

I heard somewhere that they did. That is what the paper was for lining the floor of the "garage" where the car was parked when they did the evidence collecting. Never heard about the shovel, but they did take it in as evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

oh he assured everyone in the presser this afternoon that he is not alone in working on Casey's case and one of the attorneys working the case...who didn't NOT want his name exposed ::MonkeyWink:: is death penalty qualified ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:26:19 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: littletxlady on October 16, 2008, 03:28:25 PM
I have been wondering if the LE took samples of dirt, grass, etc. from under KC's car. They might be able to match it to a specific area or plant life or even to the dirt on the shovel. Just a thought...back to lurking....

I heard somewhere that they did. That is what the paper was for lining the floor of the "garage" where the car was parked when they did the evidence collecting. Never heard about the shovel, but they did take it in as evidence.



Thank you, I have been wondering about this since LE got the car. I have seen quite a few cases solved due to this type of evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
This was posted in the Orlando Sentinel - Look at the address - must not have too many cameras around ::MonkeyNoNo::


TPC DRIVE, 7100 block, 12:21 a.m. Oct. 6, someone burglarized a business and stole over $7,000 worth of computers.
Does this have anything to do with the "other" Zenaida Gonzales who was burglarized at her work?  She was posting on a blog about moms and daycare.  There was a question and a poster said she had a son named "Zacharey" IIRC and she had been interviewed by police.  What if Lee was in on that burglary? Just speculating...


This burglary took place on October 6th.  Thought I would post a few of the companies listed in that area;  Was it RED or LE that said she would have no reason to be there?


AXIS, Inc. - Orlando, Florida 32822-5141AXIS, Inc. is one of the Top 500 largest Hispanic Owned Businesses in the country, ... AXIS, Inc. 6851 TPC Drive Orlando, Florida 32822-5141. Contacts: ...

VanguardAero.com - Worldwide Aviation Directorycore business : Air Cargo. +7-95-363-2776 ... 7100 TPC Drive Suite 200 Orlando FL 32822 USA. core business : Air ... Fort Lauderdale FL USA. core business ...

Produce Industry Improving Traceability Orlando FL - Orlando FL ...Canteen Food Service Commissary (407) 857-2330 7101 Tpc Dr Orlando, FL ... Ontario, have formed




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Stacey on October 16, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
Hello to all monkeys

This just bugs the heck out of me.
CA, GA,LA, Casey and JB are all saying Caylee is alive and they can't tell anyone any details they have to keep it secert. BOY OH BOY you nuts LE is here to help you can trust them Casey did when she called 911 fearing for her saftey.
If it's not Caylee then tell who it is because the family of this person need to know so they can start searching for their loved one.
They are just a pack of nuts




And don't you think those jurors are going to wonder why they are never told who these people are that have offered these tips and why they won't tell LE so they can go get Caylee?  You better believe that Baez had better have some witnesses ready to prove the reasons they claim she's still alive.  Then what happens?  If true, how neglectful will Baez be if he did not inform the FBI and LE about the possibility of Caylee being in such and such a place?  He can't give them any information to find Caylee because if he does and it turns out to be true...who's in trouble then?  Can you imagine if they found Caylee from information Baez was holding and she had only been dead for a day or so?  Who's the bad guy then? Of course, we all know there is no evidence to prove she's alive.

Yeap the jury will not buy anything this nut says
he will go down with his first statement


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

oh he assured everyone in the presser this afternoon that he is not alone in working on Casey's case and one of the attorneys working the case...who didn't NOT want his name exposed ::MonkeyWink:: is death penalty qualified ::MonkeyWink::

Enter a big name lawyer...hmmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 03:32:49 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

oh he assured everyone in the presser this afternoon that he is not alone in working on Casey's case and one of the attorneys working the case...who didn't NOT want his name exposed ::MonkeyWink:: is death penalty qualified ::MonkeyWink::

Oh great! An invisible attorney to go with the invisible nanny!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on October 16, 2008, 03:32:52 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Yes, that and the fact that she's probably slept with him, (mistrial). Nothing about CaseyA would surprise me at this point. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
That is why I was asking about this witness that saw Casey leaving the woods with a shovel.  Match the dirt in the area with dirt from her car and then search the area and find Caylee's remians.   Gosh, I wish that were the case...I want her found so badly.  She needs to be buried properly and with love.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 03:35:06 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????
LA's DNA?

I AGREE!!

I suspect that Lee Anthony may have attempted to shield his sister from the legal consequences of her actions and ... assisted her in the disposal of his niece's remains.  Maybe ... just maybe ... forensic DNA testing of the inside of the trunk of Casey's vehicle may be a match to Lee's DNA.  Maybe one of the strands of hair ...

Obviously ... Cindy and George were willng to be ruled out as suspects ... they willing gave DNA samples and ... they were willing to take a lie detector test until Lee objected.
 
Janet

++++++

Casey Anthony's Father To Testify Against Her In Front Of Grand Jury
POSTED: 5:56 pm EDT October 9, 2008
UPDATED: 6:29 pm EDT October 9, 2008


George and Cindy Anthony voluntarily gave up DNA samples this week so investigators could scientifically exclude either of them as the source of the hair and stain in Casey's trunk, but investigators had to get a search warrant to get Casey's brother Lee to submit to a DNA test. He also has refused to take a lie detector test for the FBI.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17680298/detail.html


NANCY GRACE
10 More Charges Filed Against Missing Florida Toddler`s Mom
Aired September 11, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: ... And one day, when the FBI and some local officials came over to ask the Anthony family to take a lie detector test, Lee became agitated. We were sitting out in the RV. And at first, they agreed to, and then he came back out and said, No, we`re not going take lie detector tests at all.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/11/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 03:35:18 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 03:35:48 PM
Can you just imagine if Bozo got her off on a technicality?  She's better of with life in prison or with an injection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 03:37:11 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

oh he assured everyone in the presser this afternoon that he is not alone in working on Casey's case and one of the attorneys working the case...who didn't NOT want his name exposed ::MonkeyWink:: is death penalty qualified ::MonkeyWink::

How would that work?  Wouldn't MYSTERY MAN have to assume the lead role? Could jb have MYSTERY MAN as second chair and qualify? May be stupid questions, but it just freaks me out to think there could be the possibility of a mistrial. I just do not trust anything about the defense right now. Sorry for the rant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 03:37:55 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Yes, that and the fact that she's probably slept with him, (mistrial). Nothing about CaseyA would surprise me at this point. 
the press conference today should answer the question of competancy....JOSE IS A IDIOT!!!!  he doesn't even realize how stupid he sounded...trying to blame the press for statements his PR guy made...casey has exactly the right attorney...they both are idiots and blame everyone else for their mistakes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 16, 2008, 03:41:50 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 03:42:37 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::
You are the cutest!!!!  I think Ill take you home with me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: socialfriend2 on October 16, 2008, 03:45:37 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 03:46:18 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 03:46:20 PM
There are two types of trace evidence which crime scene technicians collect at the beginning of an investigation. The first is inorganic trace evidence, which includes hairs, fibers, tool marks, ballistics, glass, paint and other evidence that might be found on or around a crime scene. The second is organic trace evidence, which refers to trace evidence that comes from a human or animal.

Organic Trace Evidence: Fluids

Fluids are some of the most telling organic trace evidence because so much can be determined from their composition. Fluids left at a crime scene might include saliva, semen, sweat, and vomit, which can all be run through a large gamut of tests at the medical examiner’s laboratory.

The first test that is run on any fluids collected from a crime scene is called polymarking, which is a basic DNA test. If the person whose fluids are found at the crime scene has ever had his or her DNA recorded in law enforcement systems, or if the police already have a suspect, a DNA match will tell them whether or not their suspect is the perpetrator (or victim).

Fluids might also tell the medical examiner if the person’s whose fluids they have found has any type of disease or defect, and might also prove whether or not the person is male or female. At the crime scene, a spatter, trail or pool of fluids might give law enforcement an idea about how the crime occurred.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html

Thanks, Lalas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BT.. you're too cute to be a little old lady.  You  just take that back!!!


 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



OMG I thought the same exact thing!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 03:49:15 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Your avi just cracks me up ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 03:49:36 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



That is who I was thinking about too. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 03:50:57 PM
And don't you think those jurors are going to wonder why they are never told who these people are that have offered these tips and why they won't tell LE so they can go get Caylee?  You better believe that Baez had better have some witnesses ready to prove the reasons they claim she's still alive.  Then what happens?  If true, how neglectful will Baez be if he did not inform the FBI and LE about the possibility of Caylee being in such and such a place?  He can't give them any information to find Caylee because if he does and it turns out to be true...who's in trouble then?  Can you imagine if they found Caylee from information Baez was holding and she had only been dead for a day or so?  Who's the bad guy then? Of course, we all know there is no evidence to prove she's alive


Exactly wouldnt that be obstructing justice


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 03:51:56 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



OMG I thought the same exact thing!!

LOL....gonna call his office and ask......Des ;-)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 16, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::
You are the cutest!!!!  I think Ill take you home with me.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 03:53:18 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

Oh A1 could you stop and get me a cappuccino while your out? I'm stuck here at Palwishay and can't get away. Some idiot is trying to write a check and has the wrong ID, ya think people would learn!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 03:56:27 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

Oh A1 could you stop and get me a cappuccino while your out? I'm stuck here at Palwishay and can't get away. Some idiot is trying to write a check and has the wrong ID, ya think people would learn!   ::MonkeyCool::
You bet Boo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 03:56:55 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

Oh A1 could you stop and get me a cappuccino while your out? I'm stuck here at Palwishay and can't get away. Some idiot is trying to write a check and has the wrong ID, ya think people would learn!   ::MonkeyCool::

A-1, I'll bet when she goes out from here on, sh'll be wearing more jewelry than you.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 16, 2008, 03:57:22 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BT.. you're too cute to be a little old lady.  You  just take that back!!!


 ::MonkeyWink::

 :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 03:59:11 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



OMG I thought the same exact thing!!

LOL....gonna call his office and ask......Des ;-)



You go, Girl!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 03:59:34 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

oh he assured everyone in the presser this afternoon that he is not alone in working on Casey's case and one of the attorneys working the case...who didn't NOT want his name exposed ::MonkeyWink:: is death penalty qualified ::MonkeyWink::

How would that work?  Wouldn't MYSTERY MAN have to assume the lead role? Could jb have MYSTERY MAN as second chair and qualify? May be stupid questions, but it just freaks me out to think there could be the possibility of a mistrial. I just do not trust anything about the defense right now. Sorry for the rant.

JB cannot be first chair.....the mystery attorney who JB says is death penalty qualified would be first chair....JB made a point TODAY of saying he was not working on Casey's case alone....uummm first time he ever included anyone  to my knowledge...so far he has been head honcho...superman. ::MonkeyHaHa::..so JB admitted he was not DP qualified ::MonkeyWink::  he forgets that we, the public saw just how ineffective he was in court and the little short munchkin was much more effective on the court room....hey, JB...the public 'see' and doesn't forget...you are an idiot!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: DayOldDonuts on October 16, 2008, 03:59:48 PM
Question:  Is it possible that two people DID come forward to the police and said they helped KC push her car into the Amscot?  If they did and noticed the smell, then it could be evidence in the homicide case and so that information was not released?

I ask because I've been trying to work out the time gap from the time KC's car is seen at Amscot and the time Tony picks her up. 

Here is my theory, based mostly on the cell phone records and is total speculation. One small (or big) documented fact that I overlooked can send it crashing to the ground.


KC disposes of the body early on 6/27.  Runs out of gas and parks at Amscot before 7AM.  Walks to Cindy's work (2 miles away), borrows her SUV, around 9:30 AM.  She drives to the Anthony home, hoping to find some more gas cans and helps herself to the frozen groceries and some of her clothes.  George spots her and chases her, thinking she stole the vehicle.  She doesn't want her mom to know where Tony lives, is afraid her dad is going to catch up with her and she doesn't want to answer any more Caylee questions so KC leaves the vehicle somewhere between Cindy's work and the Amscot.  She walks back to Amscot where Tony picks her up and takes her back to his place.  I don't think she abandoned it or staged a kidnapping because she was still trying to contact her friends to get her some gas cans and by the time she got one on the 30th, the car had already been towed.

Just a thought...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:00:52 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Yes, that and the fact that she's probably slept with him, (mistrial). Nothing about CaseyA would surprise me at this point. 
the press conference today should answer the question of competancy....JOSE IS A IDIOT!!!!  he doesn't even realize how stupid he sounded...trying to blame the press for statements his PR guy made...casey has exactly the right attorney...they both are idiots and blame everyone else for their mistakes.

ABSOLUTELY!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:01:30 PM
Well....I did call Mark Geragos' office in LA....and left a message with his assist....and my return #....Des...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:03:00 PM
Can you just imagine if Bozo got her off on a technicality?  She's better of with life in prison or with an injection.
t wouldnt matter if he got her of or not her life as she knew it is over , , in that case she would come out be a famous jezzabell .. Next in line for her would be a sex tape , like susan smith...... Long island lolita ... and so on thats what she would have to look forward to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
So being all forensic, they take KC's car, get the dirt and maybe plant matter off her undercarriage (car not KC, that's a lost cause) and take imprints of her tire treads. Then they go out to Red's trifecta area and confirm that the evidence collected from KC's car does indeed match that area, maybe even matching the tires. They pick up the shovel, the hack blade, the black backpack and maybe even collect DNA from that white mass that no one will tell us what it is. Maybe Caylee and KC's DNA is all over it. Why is RED showing us those pictures, there has to be something found there that is important. OK back to my coffee.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
Question:  Is it possible that two people DID come forward to the police and said they helped KC push her car into the Amscot?  If they did and noticed the smell, then it could be evidence in the homicide case and so that information was not released?

I ask because I've been trying to work out the time gap from the time KC's car is seen at Amscot and the time Tony picks her up. 

Here is my theory, based mostly on the cell phone records and is total speculation. One small (or big) documented fact that I overlooked can send it crashing to the ground.


KC disposes of the body early on 6/27.  Runs out of gas and parks at Amscot before 7AM.  Walks to Cindy's work (2 miles away), borrows her SUV, around 9:30 AM.  She drives to the Anthony home, hoping to find some more gas cans and helps herself to the frozen groceries and some of her clothes.  George spots her and chases her, thinking she stole the vehicle.  She doesn't want her mom to know where Tony lives, is afraid her dad is going to catch up with her and she doesn't want to answer any more Caylee questions so KC leaves the vehicle somewhere between Cindy's work and the Amscot.  She walks back to Amscot where Tony picks her up and takes her back to his place.  I don't think she abandoned it or staged a kidnapping because she was still trying to contact her friends to get her some gas cans and by the time she got one on the 30th, the car had already been towed.

Just a thought...

Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.  What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

(I've never heard of those brand names. I guess they don't come in little old lady sizes.)  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL....Walmart specials????   j/k ::MonkeyDance:: ......I actually prefer Jag jeans.....fit so good and are so soft....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:06:51 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



or TACOPENIS!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 16, 2008, 04:07:08 PM
So being all forensic, they take KC's car, get the dirt and maybe plant matter off her undercarriage (car not KC, that's a lost cause) and take imprints of her tire treads. Then they go out to Red's trifecta area and confirm that the evidence collected from KC's car does indeed match that area, maybe even matching the tires. They pick up the shovel, the hack blade, the black backpack and maybe even collect DNA from that white mass that no one will tell us what it is. Maybe Caylee and KC's DNA is all over it. Why is RED showing us those pictures, there has to be something found there that is important. OK back to my coffee.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I saw on one of those TV shows about true forensics cases where a man was convicted of murdering his step-daughter because a piece of plant was found under his car that matched the plants where her body was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 04:08:09 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



or TACOPENIS!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 04:08:52 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...
Thanks I hadn't heard anything either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 04:10:11 PM
"off her undercarriage (car not KC, that's a lost cause) "

BooMonkey- That's very funny, in a gross kinda way...


Jen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:11:41 PM
Well....I did call Mark Geragos' office in LA....and left a message with his assist....and my return #....Des...

OOPS...forgot to add...I also left JB's office # for Mark to call....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
Question:  Is it possible that two people DID come forward to the police and said they helped KC push her car into the Amscot?  If they did and noticed the smell, then it could be evidence in the homicide case and so that information was not released?

I ask because I've been trying to work out the time gap from the time KC's car is seen at Amscot and the time Tony picks her up. 

Here is my theory, based mostly on the cell phone records and is total speculation. One small (or big) documented fact that I overlooked can send it crashing to the ground.


KC disposes of the body early on 6/27.  Runs out of gas and parks at Amscot before 7AM.  Walks to Cindy's work (2 miles away), borrows her SUV, around 9:30 AM.  She drives to the Anthony home, hoping to find some more gas cans and helps herself to the frozen groceries and some of her clothes.  George spots her and chases her, thinking she stole the vehicle.  She doesn't want her mom to know where Tony lives, is afraid her dad is going to catch up with her and she doesn't want to answer any more Caylee questions so KC leaves the vehicle somewhere between Cindy's work and the Amscot.  She walks back to Amscot where Tony picks her up and takes her back to his place.  I don't think she abandoned it or staged a kidnapping because she was still trying to contact her friends to get her some gas cans and by the time she got one on the 30th, the car had already been towed.

Just a thought...

Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 04:13:34 PM
Well....I did call Mark Geragos' office in LA....and left a message with his assist....and my return #....Des...

OOPS...forgot to add...I also left JB's office # for Mark to call....Des


::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::
You are on a Roll!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 04:14:10 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.   What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

... and a size one (or some other obscene number) to boot.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Casey ... a friend and I are leaving in about 15 minutes for winter clothes shopping at Walmart and ... a coffee (tea) and muffin at the in-store McDonald's restaurant.  Eat your heart out ... Walmart brand still beats what you were wearing at your hearing yesterday and ... the muffin beats what you are eating today (I think).

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Casey ... for the love of Caylee ... for the love of your family and ... to experience a peace that only the truth can provide .. please bow ... reveal all and ... end this charade.

Janet
_________


IMAGES: Casey Anthony's 1st Court Appearance On Murder Charge
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17721410/detail.html


RAW VIDEO: Casey Anthony's 1st Court Appearance On Murder Charge
http://www.wftv.com/video/17721632/index.html





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 04:14:50 PM
Well....I did call Mark Geragos' office in LA....and left a message with his assist....and my return #....Des...

OOPS...forgot to add...I also left JB's office # for Mark to call....Des


::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::
You are on a Roll!
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:14:57 PM
Des can you give us any info on Organic testing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 04:16:08 PM
Question:  Is it possible that two people DID come forward to the police and said they helped KC push her car into the Amscot?  If they did and noticed the smell, then it could be evidence in the homicide case and so that information was not released?

I ask because I've been trying to work out the time gap from the time KC's car is seen at Amscot and the time Tony picks her up. 

Here is my theory, based mostly on the cell phone records and is total speculation. One small (or big) documented fact that I overlooked can send it crashing to the ground.


KC disposes of the body early on 6/27.  Runs out of gas and parks at Amscot before 7AM.  Walks to Cindy's work (2 miles away), borrows her SUV, around 9:30 AM.  She drives to the Anthony home, hoping to find some more gas cans and helps herself to the frozen groceries and some of her clothes.  George spots her and chases her, thinking she stole the vehicle.  She doesn't want her mom to know where Tony lives, is afraid her dad is going to catch up with her and she doesn't want to answer any more Caylee questions so KC leaves the vehicle somewhere between Cindy's work and the Amscot.  She walks back to Amscot where Tony picks her up and takes her back to his place.  I don't think she abandoned it or staged a kidnapping because she was still trying to contact her friends to get her some gas cans and by the time she got one on the 30th, the car had already been towed.

Just a thought...

Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

In Cindy's LE interview, she said she was off the week of June 5 and the week of June 30 ... so no, she was not off between June 24-27.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 04:17:37 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.   What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

... and a size one (or some other obscene number) to boot.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Casey ... a friend and I are leaving in about 15 minutes for winter clothes shopping at Walmart and ... a coffee (tea) and muffin at the in-store McDonald's restaurant.  Eat your heart out ... Walmart brand still beats what you were wearing at your hearing yesterday and ... the muffin beats what you are eating today (I think).

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Casey ... for the love of Caylee ... for the love of your family and ... to experience a peace that only the truth can provide .. please bow ... reveal all and ... end this charade.

Janet
_________

Janet...tears from laughing my dear!  You are too cute!  "Eat your heart out over my Egg McMuffin"  LOL   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:18:33 PM
But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27


Wouldnt Cindy have to be home in order for her to take her car?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 04:21:54 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
Des can you give us any info on Organic testing?

Walter...I know when I'm skating on thin ice on some of my calls...so...I make sure to *not* ask certain things...one of my calls today was for 20 mins...and not once did I ask if they have a body....they are willing to talk to me because they know I won't put them between a rock and a hard place....so I do get some info....but not all....as I was told....they will not do/say anything to compromise the case.....Sorry....that's the best I can do....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 04:22:31 PM
But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27


Wouldnt Cindy have to be home in order for her to take her car?

Apparently so ... and apparently she even said "George" according to George, in an attempt to either keep him from chasing her or to go chase her.

Cindy said in her interview that she did not know Casey had taken her car.

Go figure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 04:22:52 PM
But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27


Wouldnt Cindy have to be home in order for her to take her car?


not if Casey drove it to the house. (Presumably to steal something)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27


Wouldnt Cindy have to be home in order for her to take her car?

Perhaps Cindy works the 7-3 or 8-4 or 9-5 shift... that should get her home in time for Crazy to steal her car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:23:41 PM
Des can you give us any info on Organic testing?

Walter...I know when I'm skating on thin ice on some of my calls...so...I make sure to *not* ask certain things...one of my calls today was for 20 mins...and not once did I ask if they have a body....they are willing to talk to me because they know I won't put them between a rock and a hard place....so I do get some info....but not all....as I was told....they will not do/say anything to compromise the case.....Sorry....that's the best I can do....Des



That works for me !!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 04:24:08 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Was it Pelicans Crane? (I didn't think it was too far from Sutton Place apt)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 04:24:21 PM
I have a question regarding the competency of defense council. It has been stated that JB IS NOT qualified to try a DP case. It has also been said that if told in open court about JB not being qualified, kc has the right to demand to keep him. If it is HER choice to keep him as lead counsel, does that negate the possibility of a retrial on the grounds of "ineffective council"?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier w/o much success.  ::MonkeyConfused::

At the very end of this video: http://www.wftv.com/video/17724320/index.html
the reporter says that the Supreme Court has said that Baez is not capable of defending someone in a capital offense case, but that Casey can say in open court that she understands that. I do however, agree with some of you here, that Baez will have on his team eventually, an attorney who would be capable of defending Casey. Time will tell.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Mark Geragos....Des ;-)



or TACOPENIS!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Speaking of.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 04:25:40 PM
TODD BLACK - SPOKESPERSON FOR JOSE BAEZ:  "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story

 
RESPONSE:
TODD BLACK JOSE
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 04:26:43 PM
But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27


Wouldnt Cindy have to be home in order for her to take her car?

Apparently so ... and apparently she even said "George" according to George, in an attempt to either keep him from chasing her or to go chase her.

Cindy said in her interview that she did not know Casey had taken her car.

Go figure.

Brandi, I Love your cat's eyes!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 04:26:59 PM
TODD BLACK - SPOKESPERSON FOR JOSE BAEZ:  "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story

 
RESPONSE:
TODD BLACK JOSE
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story



Edit:

RESPONSE:
JOSE BAEZ
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 04:28:41 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
0T..
kevin coe is about to learn his verdict... any moment now..at 1:30 spokane time!
Verdict due at 1:30 p.m.
Rick Bonino and Karen Dorn Steele
Staff writers
October 16, 2008


Video: Streaming live from the courtroom (Windows only) | Coe takes the stand | More video from KHQ

 
Kevin Coe is about to learn his fate.

A verdict is due at 1:30 p.m. today in the Kevin Coe civil commitment trial. The jury has concluded deliberations on whether Coe, 61, should be committed to a mental facility as a sexual predator, or whether he should be released after spending 25 years in prison for the 1980 rape of a woman in Spokane.

If the jury decides Kevin Coe should not be committed as a sexually violent predator, he says he’d leave Spokane as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
Des can you give us any info on Organic testing?
Don't know if it will help you

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:28:57 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 04:30:02 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/upxn4.jpg)

Maybe Casey's squirrel had his camera


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 04:30:40 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments

http://www.allianceresidential.com/home.asp?AID=14760


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:30:58 PM
TODD BLACK - SPOKESPERSON FOR JOSE BAEZ:  "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story

 
RESPONSE:
TODD BLACK JOSE
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story



Edit:

RESPONSE:
JOSE BAEZ
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story




 Here is Biaz real Response

"Good grief can everybody justt stick to the same story all the lies are hard for me to keep up with . I have taken the continuing education class on how to keep spewing BS if your lies are uncovered." "people let all get on the same page We spotted Caylee with ZG in PR we have a picture we cropped with photoshop PLEEEEASE"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 04:31:23 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 04:31:33 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments

http://www.allianceresidential.com/home.asp?AID=14760

Thanks Klaas....you saved me from wading thru pages of documents!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:32:58 PM
Des can you give us any info on Organic testing?
Don't know if it will help you

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/61965/organic_trace_evidence_collections.html

WOW ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 16, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments

http://www.allianceresidential.com/home.asp?AID=14760

Thanks Klaas....you saved me from wading thru pages of documents!! ::MonkeyWink::

We won't mention that I waded through tons of documents here to find you that answer.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 04:33:30 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Was it Pelicans Crane? (I didn't think it was too far from Sutton Place apt)
It was Cranes Landing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:35:01 PM
Well....I did call Mark Geragos' office in LA....and left a message with his assist....and my return #....Des...

OOPS...forgot to add...I also left JB's office # for Mark to call....Des


hahahahaha...thank funny!! And they took the message?? ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: strayze on October 16, 2008, 04:35:15 PM
So being all forensic, they take KC's car, get the dirt and maybe plant matter off her undercarriage (car not KC, that's a lost cause) and take imprints of her tire treads. Then they go out to Red's trifecta area and confirm that the evidence collected from KC's car does indeed match that area, maybe even matching the tires. They pick up the shovel, the hack blade, the black backpack and maybe even collect DNA from that white mass that no one will tell us what it is. Maybe Caylee and KC's DNA is all over it. Why is RED showing us those pictures, there has to be something found there that is important. OK back to my coffee.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Where are Red's pics posted?  Thanx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 04:35:18 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Was it Pelicans Crane? (I didn't think it was too far from Sutton Place apt)
It was Cranes Landing

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I was hoping nobody caught that - what the hell is Pelican's Crane ::MonkeyConfused:: - I think I combined 2 different names to come up with that one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 04:35:24 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments

http://www.allianceresidential.com/home.asp?AID=14760

Crane's Landing Apartments

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CranesLanding.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 04:35:50 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!


It's all so weird... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
Casey Anthony Jail Call to brother, Lee Anthony 07/26/2008

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_CaseyJailCall_072608.htm



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 04:36:35 PM
Quote
We won't mention that I waded through tons of documents here to find you that answer. 

I do appreciate it, honest..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thank You!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 04:36:42 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...



Des ... according to Leonard Padilla ... he received the Casey's phone records from Lee Anthony.

Janet

______

NANCY GRACE
Bounty Hunter Thinks Casey Anthony had an Accomplice
Aired September 17, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Back to bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. You keep talking about the phone records. Have you seen them?

PADILLA: Yes, we -- we have a complete set of her phone records that go from around the 10th of June all the way out to the end of July.

GRACE: Where did you get them?

PADILLA: We got them from Lee, her brother.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
Hey Casey, its 67 degrees and the sun is shining - Im going shopping, Im wearing a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.   What are you wearing today?????  Oh Yeah, tch tch.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

... and a size one (or some other obscene number) to boot.  Wash your mouth out with soap my dear!  LOL
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Casey ... a friend and I are leaving in about 15 minutes for winter clothes shopping at Walmart and ... a coffee (tea) and muffin at the in-store McDonald's restaurant.  Eat your heart out ... Walmart brand still beats what you were wearing at your hearing yesterday and ... the muffin beats what you are eating today (I think).

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Casey ... for the love of Caylee ... for the love of your family and ... to experience a peace that only the truth can provide .. please bow ... reveal all and ... end this charade.

Janet
_________


IMAGES: Casey Anthony's 1st Court Appearance On Murder Charge
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17721410/detail.html


RAW VIDEO: Casey Anthony's 1st Court Appearance On Murder Charge
http://www.wftv.com/video/17721632/index.html


Janet, you are on a roll today!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
Everybody Thank You , I have learned so much for this board . My husband sometimes think I have a sick mind becasue I am in to all of this .... I love to go to old cemetaries and look at the old tombstones and then google the name to see if there is any history.... I hope nobody ever does a search of my laptop ..They will think I have an infacuation with Scott Peterson and Ted Bundy.  If they do will someone put money in my account so I can buy from the commensary......

OT Sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Everybody Thank You , I have learned so much for this board . My husband sometimes think I have a sick mind becasue I am in to all of this .... I love to go to old cemetaries and look at the old tombstones and then google the name to see if there is any history.... I hope nobody ever does a search of my laptop ..They will think I have an infacuation with Scott Peterson and Ted Bundy.  If they do will someone put money in my account so I can buy from the commensary......

OT Sorry
Husband??? Walter i thought you was a guy...So Sorry!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Was it Pelicans Crane? (I didn't think it was too far from Sutton Place apt)
It was Cranes Landing

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I was hoping nobody caught that - what the hell is Pelican's Crane ::MonkeyConfused:: - I think I combined 2 different names to come up with that one!
sounded god to me   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 04:40:19 PM
Casey Anthony Jail Call to brother, Lee Anthony 07/26/2008

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_CaseyJailCall_072608.htm



My gosh!!Who talks like that? Stranger Ranger Lee.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:41:05 PM


or TACOPENIS!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Speaking of.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)

OHMYGAWD! I nearly fell off my chair! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 04:41:26 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Was it Pelicans Crane? (I didn't think it was too far from Sutton Place apt)
It was Cranes Landing

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I was hoping nobody caught that - what the hell is Pelican's Crane ::MonkeyConfused:: - I think I combined 2 different names to come up with that one!
sounded god to me   ::MonkeyWink::
good      i had to correct that..sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:42:08 PM


or TACOPENIS!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Speaking of.....

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)

I jsut realized....isn't his face on the wrong end!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...



Des ... according to Leonard Padilla ... he received the Casey's phone records from Lee Anthony.

Janet

______

NANCY GRACE
Bounty Hunter Thinks Casey Anthony had an Accomplice
Aired September 17, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Back to bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. You keep talking about the phone records. Have you seen them?

PADILLA: Yes, we -- we have a complete set of her phone records that go from around the 10th of June all the way out to the end of July.

GRACE: Where did you get them?

PADILLA: We got them from Lee, her brother.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/ng.01.html




That's what I said Janet....LA=Lee Anthony....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on October 16, 2008, 04:45:16 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

CaseyA has not matured past the age of 10-12. If you were to sit down with your 12 year old and try to help them understand how GOOD GRADES would make an impact on the future, such as college choice, job stability, career growth, they would listen but they wouldn’t have the global understanding of how it would truly impact them. Right now the 12 year old world is all about them, their friends, what are you wearing, who said what, who did this? The world around them is a microcosm of the world. This is why CaseyA does not understand the terms, “LIFE in prison” or “Death Penalty.” As you can see by the maps of her travels, she pretty much stays in a 5 mile radius of her home. She’s never lived on her own. She can’t hold a job. She has no understanding of responsibility or accountability.

Remember when she said, “I was arrested on a F-whim today?” She doesn’t feel that she deserves to be punished. She doesn’t understand why people are upset with her, why they are standing outside of her house yelling angry things, why there is so much media attention surrounding Caylee. She is frustrated now because she has no one to lie to. This is why you see her tears. They are not tears of “Oh my goodness I am really in trouble now.” They are tears of frustration. Remember when she said to someone after her first interrogation (I can’t remember who) “No one is listening to anything I say.” What she meant was, “No one is listening to my lies.” These lies have ALWAYS worked in the past and she doesn’t understand why they are not working now. In the past all she had to do is say the right thing until the other person took the bait, if that didn’t work, she would use sex, if that didn’t work, she would get angry and turn the tables. She is thinking I wish people would just leave me alone, I don’t understand what the big deal is. She has no idea why a lady in small town Iowa would call NG and make a comment about Caylee. She doesn’t even understand why NG would have discussions about Caylee every night. She has convinced her mother (and others) to see her as the VICTIM.

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”

CaseyA understands right from wrong but not as you and I do. She only understands this from the vantage point of how is this going to affect ME. When she lies, she doesn’t understand how more lying can make things worse. She doesn’t understand “worse.”

If you were to drop CaseyA in the middle of the Sahara she would think, “I only need to get over this mound of sand, then I will be ok.” She can’t conceptualize that there are thousands mounds of sand she must face. She believes that once all of the hype dies down, this will go away. If she murdered Caylee, she views it as justifying her needs rather that right and wrong. If it suits CaseyA’s needs, then it is ok. If Caylee died by accident she feels no tie to it, which is why she would not admit it. Because she does not connect with responsibilities, she cannot understand that if Caylee died due to an accident how that would make her responsible.

In one session I had a patient who had done some pretty horrible things in life. As I sat there listening to her describe in great detail the destruction she had caused I was amazed that she could talk about things so non-chalantly. As if she was describing her grocery list. There are people born without nerve endings. They cannot feel any pain on the skin unless it goes past the dermal layer. So, a pin prick or a slap wouldn’t faze them. I relate that to the sociopath/psychopath behavior. I believe that CaseyA leans more toward psychopath. Sociopaths are typically anti-social where psychopaths are engaging, charming, confident and draw people to them instantly. Casey is unique from other sociopath/psychopaths. Other sociopaths/psychopaths have a clear concept of eternity/global impact and life-changing events. She is extremely childlike in all of her behaviors and that will never change. She will always think the way she does. Once she gets settled in prison, she will find new friends (victims), she will engage in internet chats (if allowed) and she will convince someone that she has been wrongly persecuted, then once she no longer has a use for them, she will dispose of them. 

Ok…I’m sorry that my posts are always sooooo long! Forgive! :)

Oh and BTW-a good read, “The Psychopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D
About people who do not necessarily kill or draw blood, their psychopathic behaviors are silently destructive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 04:45:30 PM
TODD BLACK - SPOKESPERSON FOR JOSE BAEZ:  "It's very difficult. This is a serious case involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-101608,0,7523378.story

 
RESPONSE:
TODD BLACK JOSE
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story


Edit:

RESPONSE TO TODD BLACK'S COMMENTS:
JOSE BAEZ
GEORGE ANTHONY


Videos:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-initial-appearance-101508,0,6996414.story


 Here is Biaz real Response

"Good grief can everybody justt stick to the same story all the lies are hard for me to keep up with . I have taken the continuing education class on how to keep spewing BS if your lies are uncovered." "people let all get on the same page We spotted Caylee with ZG in PR we have a picture we cropped with photoshop PLEEEEASE"


I was thinking the same thing when I read Todd Black's take concerning his words on CNN and ... then listening to Jose Baez's response to Todd Black's words on CNN.  They should have conferred to what the spin would be prior to going public.

Janet
______

RAW INTERVIEW: Todd Black Says Comment That Caylee Is Dead Was Out Of Context
http://www.wftv.com/video/17729306/index.html

Prime News host Mike Galanos spars with a Casey Anthony defense spokesman over the media's handling of the case.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?eref=rss_us#cnnSTCVideo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 04:47:48 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
KEVEN COE IS STAYING IN PRISON!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:48:58 PM
Didn't BJ...eeeerrrrrrrr JB, say Todd Black was not an attorney? So what in the hell is he???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 04:49:49 PM
A media spokesperson


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 04:50:11 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

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6/19   
Thurs          Casey calls Matthew Allen Crisp to ask about leasing an apartment at Cranes Landing Apartments for Lazaro. Crisp meets with Casey and Anthony that day, but no action was ever taken. (According to statement by Matthew Allen Crisp)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 04:51:49 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

CaseyA has not matured past the age of 10-12. If you were to sit down with your 12 year old and try to help them understand how GOOD GRADES would make an impact on the future, such as college choice, job stability, career growth, they would listen but they wouldn’t have the global understanding of how it would truly impact them. Right now the 12 year old world is all about them, their friends, what are you wearing, who said what, who did this? The world around them is a microcosm of the world. This is why CaseyA does not understand the terms, “LIFE in prison” or “Death Penalty.” As you can see by the maps of her travels, she pretty much stays in a 5 mile radius of her home. She’s never lived on her own. She can’t hold a job. She has no understanding of responsibility or accountability.

Remember when she said, “I was arrested on a F-whim today?” She doesn’t feel that she deserves to be punished. She doesn’t understand why people are upset with her, why they are standing outside of her house yelling angry things, why there is so much media attention surrounding Caylee. She is frustrated now because she has no one to lie to. This is why you see her tears. They are not tears of “Oh my goodness I am really in trouble now.” They are tears of frustration. Remember when she said to someone after her first interrogation (I can’t remember who) “No one is listening to anything I say.” What she meant was, “No one is listening to my lies.” These lies have ALWAYS worked in the past and she doesn’t understand why they are not working now. In the past all she had to do is say the right thing until the other person took the bait, if that didn’t work, she would use sex, if that didn’t work, she would get angry and turn the tables. She is thinking I wish people would just leave me alone, I don’t understand what the big deal is. She has no idea why a lady in small town Iowa would call NG and make a comment about Caylee. She doesn’t even understand why NG would have discussions about Caylee every night. She has convinced her mother (and others) to see her as the VICTIM.

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”

CaseyA understands right from wrong but not as you and I do. She only understands this from the vantage point of how is this going to affect ME. When she lies, she doesn’t understand how more lying can make things worse. She doesn’t understand “worse.”

If you were to drop CaseyA in the middle of the Sahara she would think, “I only need to get over this mound of sand, then I will be ok.” She can’t conceptualize that there are thousands mounds of sand she must face. She believes that once all of the hype dies down, this will go away. If she murdered Caylee, she views it as justifying her needs rather that right and wrong. If it suits CaseyA’s needs, then it is ok. If Caylee died by accident she feels no tie to it, which is why she would not admit it. Because she does not connect with responsibilities, she cannot understand that if Caylee died due to an accident how that would make her responsible.

In one session I had a patient who had done some pretty horrible things in life. As I sat there listening to her describe in great detail the destruction she had caused I was amazed that she could talk about things so non-chalantly. As if she was describing her grocery list. There are people born without nerve endings. They cannot feel any pain on the skin unless it goes past the dermal layer. So, a pin prick or a slap wouldn’t faze them. I relate that to the sociopath/psychopath behavior. I believe that CaseyA leans more toward psychopath. Sociopaths are typically anti-social where psychopaths are engaging, charming, confident and draw people to them instantly. Casey is unique from other sociopath/psychopaths. Other sociopaths/psychopaths have a clear concept of eternity/global impact and life-changing events. She is extremely childlike in all of her behaviors and that will never change. She will always think the way she does. Once she gets settled in prison, she will find new friends (victims), she will engage in internet chats (if allowed) and she will convince someone that she has been wrongly persecuted, then once she no longer has a use for them, she will dispose of them. 

Ok…I’m sorry that my posts are always sooooo long! Forgive! :)

Oh and BTW-a good read, “The Psychopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D
About people who do not necessarily kill or draw blood, their psychopathic behaviors are silently destructive.



Nail on the head....EXCELLENT POST!!! Thank You...Des...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 04:51:53 PM
KEVEN COE IS STAYING IN PRISON!

Good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
0T..
kevin coe is about to learn his verdict... any moment now..at 1:30 spokane time!
Verdict due at 1:30 p.m.
Rick Bonino and Karen Dorn Steele
Staff writers
October 16, 2008


Video: Streaming live from the courtroom (Windows only) | Coe takes the stand | More video from KHQ

 
Kevin Coe is about to learn his fate.

A verdict is due at 1:30 p.m. today in the Kevin Coe civil commitment trial. The jury has concluded deliberations on whether Coe, 61, should be committed to a mental facility as a sexual predator, or whether he should be released after spending 25 years in prison for the 1980 rape of a woman in Spokane.

If the jury decides Kevin Coe should not be committed as a sexually violent predator, he says he’d leave Spokane as soon as possible.


I hope he stays in prison....I do not believe rapists, sexual predatators and pedophiles should ever be allowed to walk the streets after  they have been found guilty.....I don't know the statistics of repeat offenders but I do know they are high.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 04:53:10 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

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6/19   
Thurs          Casey calls Matthew Allen Crisp to ask about leasing an apartment at Cranes Landing Apartments for Lazaro. Crisp meets with Casey and Anthony that day, but no action was ever taken. (According to statement by Matthew Allen Crisp)



Mattew Crisp INTERVIEW 07/17/08 (Casey told him at Subway 07/07/08 Caylee in Sanford, FL)

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_M_Crisp071708.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 04:53:11 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!


I thought their entire conversation was more than weird!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 04:53:52 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

CaseyA has not matured past the age of 10-12. If you were to sit down with your 12 year old and try to help them understand how GOOD GRADES would make an impact on the future, such as college choice, job stability, career growth, they would listen but they wouldn’t have the global understanding of how it would truly impact them. Right now the 12 year old world is all about them, their friends, what are you wearing, who said what, who did this? The world around them is a microcosm of the world. This is why CaseyA does not understand the terms, “LIFE in prison” or “Death Penalty.” As you can see by the maps of her travels, she pretty much stays in a 5 mile radius of her home. She’s never lived on her own. She can’t hold a job. She has no understanding of responsibility or accountability.

Remember when she said, “I was arrested on a F-whim today?” She doesn’t feel that she deserves to be punished. She doesn’t understand why people are upset with her, why they are standing outside of her house yelling angry things, why there is so much media attention surrounding Caylee. She is frustrated now because she has no one to lie to. This is why you see her tears. They are not tears of “Oh my goodness I am really in trouble now.” They are tears of frustration. Remember when she said to someone after her first interrogation (I can’t remember who) “No one is listening to anything I say.” What she meant was, “No one is listening to my lies.” These lies have ALWAYS worked in the past and she doesn’t understand why they are not working now. In the past all she had to do is say the right thing until the other person took the bait, if that didn’t work, she would use sex, if that didn’t work, she would get angry and turn the tables. She is thinking I wish people would just leave me alone, I don’t understand what the big deal is. She has no idea why a lady in small town Iowa would call NG and make a comment about Caylee. She doesn’t even understand why NG would have discussions about Caylee every night. She has convinced her mother (and others) to see her as the VICTIM.

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”

CaseyA understands right from wrong but not as you and I do. She only understands this from the vantage point of how is this going to affect ME. When she lies, she doesn’t understand how more lying can make things worse. She doesn’t understand “worse.”

If you were to drop CaseyA in the middle of the Sahara she would think, “I only need to get over this mound of sand, then I will be ok.” She can’t conceptualize that there are thousands mounds of sand she must face. She believes that once all of the hype dies down, this will go away. If she murdered Caylee, she views it as justifying her needs rather that right and wrong. If it suits CaseyA’s needs, then it is ok. If Caylee died by accident she feels no tie to it, which is why she would not admit it. Because she does not connect with responsibilities, she cannot understand that if Caylee died due to an accident how that would make her responsible.

In one session I had a patient who had done some pretty horrible things in life. As I sat there listening to her describe in great detail the destruction she had caused I was amazed that she could talk about things so non-chalantly. As if she was describing her grocery list. There are people born without nerve endings. They cannot feel any pain on the skin unless it goes past the dermal layer. So, a pin prick or a slap wouldn’t faze them. I relate that to the sociopath/psychopath behavior. I believe that CaseyA leans more toward psychopath. Sociopaths are typically anti-social where psychopaths are engaging, charming, confident and draw people to them instantly. Casey is unique from other sociopath/psychopaths. Other sociopaths/psychopaths have a clear concept of eternity/global impact and life-changing events. She is extremely childlike in all of her behaviors and that will never change. She will always think the way she does. Once she gets settled in prison, she will find new friends (victims), she will engage in internet chats (if allowed) and she will convince someone that she has been wrongly persecuted, then once she no longer has a use for them, she will dispose of them. 

Ok…I’m sorry that my posts are always sooooo long! Forgive! :)

Oh and BTW-a good read, “The Psychopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D
About people who do not necessarily kill or draw blood, their psychopathic behaviors are silently destructive.


If this is true,I see it working for her defense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
I have seen RED's pictures, but did not see a white mass.  Didn't Casey purchase white trash bags with one of the stolen checks?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!

I think he was talking about the cell phone dying or loosing the connection. They knew they were being recorded at that point, so everything in that conversation sounds awkward to me. I didn't think it was code so much as being very careful how they word things. JMO

I thought their entire conversation was more than weird!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 04:57:39 PM
I wonder how she is liking being everybody's biggest resource NOW  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I wonder if the walls are getting closer yet!


http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_CaseyJailCall_072608.htm


Casey: I'm, again, everybody's biggest resource. You've said that. Jose has said that. Mom and Dad have said that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 04:58:20 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!

I think he was talking about the cell phone dying or loosing the connection. They knew they were being recorded at that point, so everything in that conversation sounds awkward to me. I didn't think it was code so much as being very careful how they word things. JMO




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:00:59 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!

I think he was talking about the cell phone dying or loosing the connection. They knew they were being recorded at that point, so everything in that conversation sounds awkward to me. I didn't think it was code so much as being very careful how they word things. JMO




I don't think that statement is about a cell phone dying... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
I am going  over the calls between KC & Lee when she was in jail. It has been speculated that they were talking in code. The first comment that caught my eye was.....

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

WTF does that mean?!?!

I think he was talking about the cell phone dying or loosing the connection. They knew they were being recorded at that point, so everything in that conversation sounds awkward to me. I didn't think it was code so much as being very careful how they word things. JMO



the only thing i got out of that is "you can call me"....the rest i don't know.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 05:05:45 PM
Cindy Anthony releases to detectives a bag of items that she removed from the abandoned vehicle. She admints to having found and laundered some clothing of Caseys. According to an official Incident Report On July 15 at the request of Corporal Yuri Melich the items included:
a cloth-bodied baby doll,
Dora the Explorer backpack,
a child's toothbrush,
a dinnerware knife,
a black leather bag containing various papers. The uniditentified scent was evident on some of these items.

Inside the back passenger seat the officers find a child's car seat and several pair of adult shoes and in the front set find a black leather bag containing cd's /dvd's, and a dark colored belt.
They impound the car too.

 Maybe the Organic testing is on the shoes that Casey had in her car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 05:06:00 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 16, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
KEVEN COE IS STAYING IN PRISON!


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 05:08:08 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...



Des ... according to Leonard Padilla ... he received the Casey's phone records from Lee Anthony.

Janet

______

NANCY GRACE
Bounty Hunter Thinks Casey Anthony had an Accomplice
Aired September 17, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Back to bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. You keep talking about the phone records. Have you seen them?

PADILLA: Yes, we -- we have a complete set of her phone records that go from around the 10th of June all the way out to the end of July.

GRACE: Where did you get them?

PADILLA: We got them from Lee, her brother.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/ng.01.html


That's what I said Janet....LA=Lee Anthony....Des



Des ... I apologize ... I misunderstood.

According to the following article ... LE was in possession of Casey's cell phone records at the time when the Padillas posted the $500,000 bail bond prior to Casey's first released.

Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
 
I am off for the rest of the afternoon.

Later Monkeys

Janet
2:00 PM Pt

______


Bounty Hunter To Bail Casey Anthony Out Of Jail
Casey Anthony Refuses To See Brother...Again
POSTED: 4:58 pm EDT August 6, 2008
UPDATED: 2:51 pm EDT August 17, 2008

Bounty Hunter To Post Bond For Casey Anthony On Monday


Sacramento-based bail bondsman and bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said his nephew, Tony Padilla, will post the 10 percent of Casey Anthony's $500,000 bond needed to release her on Monday ...

Cell Towers Could Track Casey Anthony

Investigators are looking through Casey Anthony's cell phone records, hoping the records will help trace Casey Anthony's "electronic footsteps" -- particularly on the days investigators have recently pinpointed -- June 16 through June 18.Investigators are looking through Casey Anthony's cell phone records, hoping the records will help trace Casey Anthony's "electronic footsteps" -- particularly on the days investigators have recently pinpointed -- June 16 through June 18.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
lucky charm,

i found your last post very interesting and also well worded and informed...i dont think any of us can "understand" how she could do such a thing, so i will leave it at that....like you said, it suited her needs to do it, and that alone explains probably 99% of her life long actions... personally, i think she did this to fill some deep emotional needs that she felt she couldnt get any other way...not Munchausens by proxy, but something similar...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:11:12 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I hear ya loud and clear. It seems that even Casey would have said"what's that mean Lee"? ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I can also see it being about Lee keeping the phony kidnapping story alive.....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 16, 2008, 05:15:03 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I hear ya loud and clear. It seems that even Casey would have said"what's that mean Lee"? ::MonkeyHaHa::
I bet Lee doesn't know what it meant...   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 16, 2008, 05:15:04 PM
Hey guys..wanna update me on whats up in the cage since I am still a sick little monkey??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:15:38 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I hear ya loud and clear. It seems that even Casey would have said"what's that mean Lee"? ::MonkeyHaHa::

maybe he is speaking of thier relationship as brother and sister...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I hear ya loud and clear. It seems that even Casey would have said"what's that mean Lee"? ::MonkeyHaHa::
I bet Lee doesn't know what it meant...   ::MonkeyConfused::

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/ROLFMAO.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:19:08 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)


from what i understand, records like that are kept by stores and credit card companies for years, it could without a doubt be obtained by le if needed, and probably will be..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 05:19:27 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)



Afternoon Monkeys!!!  I remember seeing the LE interview with Cindy where they ask her for the Credit card records and Cindy says "I told you there is nothing on them that involves this case"  or something like that and LE says this is the problem were having and your not cooperating with us.  It was the 3rd part of her interview I believe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 05:20:30 PM
Cindy Anthony releases to detectives a bag of items that she removed from the abandoned vehicle. She admints to having found and laundered some clothing of Caseys. According to an official Incident Report On July 15 at the request of Corporal Yuri Melich the items included:
a cloth-bodied baby doll,
Dora the Explorer backpack,
a child's toothbrush,
a dinnerware knife,
a black leather bag containing various papers. The uniditentified scent was evident on some of these items.

Inside the back passenger seat the officers find a child's car seat and several pair of adult shoes and in the front set find a black leather bag containing cd's /dvd's, and a dark colored belt.
They impound the car too.

 Maybe the Organic testing is on the shoes that Casey had in her car.



And she removed the lanyard too, but it got lost . I saw a picture of that lanyard I think its in the picture of her and Annie in the car with Caylee in the back ground. i wondered why Cindy took it out of the car to begin with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?

Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.

Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.

Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.

Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?

Ok - maybe not about his phone dying, but when I heard it, it sounded like the same thought all connected. Maybe not... I'm certainly not an expert on what goes on in the crazy mind of an Anthony!!

I hear ya loud and clear. It seems that even Casey would have said"what's that mean Lee"? ::MonkeyHaHa::

maybe he is speaking of thier relationship as brother and sister...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/HolyMoly-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:21:18 PM
probably correct about lee not knowing what it meant....just look at cindy for a minute, the woman will say ANYTHING!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
amber Alert

3 year old child in Elizabeth New Jersey. Take from the toy section of a store.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
amber Alert

3 year old child in Elizabeth New Jersey. Take from the toy section of a store.


Never mind they found the little girl safe, but are looking for a person of interest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on October 16, 2008, 05:25:49 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”


If this is true,I see it working for her defense?

I see your point, however, the very definition of the word Sociopath/Psychopath doesn't give them an "out" like a mental disorder, as their is virtually no treatment for this disorder. I think it would very unlikely for CaseyA to even admit to having psychopathic tendancies. Therefore using it as a defense would be tough. Now, if she suffered from Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar Disorder or Split Personality Disorder, where the gaps in reality are based in a mental disorder and then she snapped one day and did something like kill Caylee. Then I could see this being used as a defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 16, 2008, 05:27:36 PM
Klaas,

Not sure if you saw my post about a deliberate piece of the hat being cut out. Can you zoom in on that are? TIA

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnnHatCompare.jpg)

I don't have the video handy now but the actual cut in the hat is more visible watching the video:


PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 05:28:31 PM
I totally agree that Casey is the perfect example of arrested development.  She is a child in a woman's body.  Her mind still operates on a juvenile level.  People may have different ideas of why she is that way.  I suspect she has been babied all her life and never allowed to grow up.  But she may have been a sociopath and immature from day one.  It is hard to say.  I will remind everyone that babying someone is the perfect way to control them.  We all know people -- friends or family -- who zero in on people who are weak or insecure and claim to want to help them, protect them, do things for them.  What they really do is take over;  A genuinely kind and helpful person does not want to run someone else's life for them.  That is why is see Cindy as such a culprit is all of this.  No matter what her intentions, she wants to control, to rule the roost, the criticize others and mold them to her liking.  Caylee became a pawn between two very competitive, jealous and controlling queen bees -- her mother and her grandmother.  But Cindy was the stronger because she got her way about most things.  Casey had a baby she did not want and was not ready for.  Cindy took over and soon the baby became more hers than Casey's, and by then, Casey felt conflicted.  She did not want to be a mother but she did not want her mom to raise Caylee, either.  That led to a drastic action on her part.  Even now, Casey expects someone to get her out of this mess, so she can go back to her computer and be taken care of by others. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:29:42 PM
Klaas,

Not sure if you saw my post about a deliberate piece of the hat being cut out. Can you zoom in on that are? TIA

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnnHatCompare.jpg)

I don't have the video handy now but the actual cut in the hat is more visible watching the video:


PJ :flower:

what are these pictures?  where are they from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 05:30:05 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...
Thanks I hadn't heard anything either.

No word on that yet. I also have 10 other cases of human remains found around Florida since june 25th that I am waiting on some word/more info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:31:37 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”


If this is true,I see it working for her defense?

I see your point, however, the very definition of the word Sociopath/Psychopath doesn't give them an "out" like a mental disorder, as their is virtually no treatment for this disorder. I think it would very unlikely for CaseyA to even admit to having psychopathic tendancies. Therefore using it as a defense would be tough. Now, if she suffered from Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar Disorder or Split Personality Disorder, where the gaps in reality are based in a mental disorder and then she snapped one day and did something like kill Caylee. Then I could see this being used as a defense.

I just bet if they do find Caylee,they will go there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 16, 2008, 05:32:41 PM
amber Alert

3 year old child in Elizabeth New Jersey. Take from the toy section of a store.
Police Search for 6-Year-Old Kidnapping Victim
Updated: Oct 15, 2008 10:48 AM PDT  
 
Metro police say a 6-year-old boy was kidnapped this morning from a home near Hollywood and Lake Mead in Las Vegas, Nv. during a robbery around 7:15 a.m.

Police say two men, described as Latin, took Cole Puffinburger. The boy was wearing a black John Cena tee-shirt, dark jeans and tennis shoes. He has blond hair and blue eyes and was wearing silver-rimmed glasses.

According to police, the two suspects knocked on the door and indicated they were police however once inside they tied up the boy's mother and her male friend and began looking for money in the home. Police say they took the boy when no money was found.

No Amber Alert has been issued because police say they do not have a description of the car, which is one of the requirements.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 05:33:00 PM
Hey guys..wanna update me on whats up in the cage since I am still a sick little monkey??
All here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 05:33:08 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...
Thanks I hadn't heard anything either.

No word on that yet. I also have 10 other cases of human remains found around Florida since june 25th that I am waiting on some word/more info.
Were they found while searching for caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 05:33:31 PM
MOST LIKELY OFF TOPIC........but I am watching this closely>>> It peaked my interest......

Body found outside Walgreens on Newberry

Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.

The Alachua County Sheriff's Office is conducting a death investigation after a
man's body was found inside a vehicle outside a local store Monday evening.

Officers were contacted about a 20-year-old man, who was in a vehicle at the Walgreens at 7520 Newberry Road shortly after 6 p.m., said Sheriff's Office spokesman Art Forgey.

Investigators found no indication of foul play was involved in the man's death but were awaiting autopsy results in the case.

Forgey said the man had an Orlando address.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081016/NEWS/810162919/1105/NEWS?Title=Body_found_outside_Walgreens_on_Newberry


Sounds like a suicide to me




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 05:34:30 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)



Afternoon Monkeys!!!  I remember seeing the LE interview with Cindy where they ask her for the Credit card records and Cindy says "I told you there is nothing on them that involves this case"  or something like that and LE says this is the problem were having and your not cooperating with us.  It was the 3rd part of her interview I believe.

I do know that 1 of the missing receipts is from JCPenney. Not sure if LE was able to obtain it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
I totally agree that Casey is the perfect example of arrested development.  She is a child in a woman's body.  Her mind still operates on a juvenile level.  People may have different ideas of why she is that way.  I suspect she has been babied all her life and never allowed to grow up.  But she may have been a sociopath and immature from day one.  It is hard to say.  I will remind everyone that babying someone is the perfect way to control them.  We all know people -- friends or family -- who zero in on people who are weak or insecure and claim to want to help them, protect them, do things for them.  What they really do is take over;  A genuinely kind and helpful person does not want to run someone else's life for them.  That is why is see Cindy as such a culprit is all of this.  No matter what her intentions, she wants to control, to rule the roost, the criticize others and mold them to her liking.  Caylee became a pawn between two very competitive, jealous and controlling queen bees -- her mother and her grandmother.  But Cindy was the stronger because she got her way about most things.  Casey had a baby she did not want and was not ready for.  Cindy took over and soon the baby became more hers than Casey's, and by then, Casey felt conflicted.  She did not want to be a mother but she did not want her mom to raise Caylee, either.  That led to a drastic action on her part.  Even now, Casey expects someone to get her out of this mess, so she can go back to her computer and be taken care of by others. 

Totally agree!  You always post with such amazing insight.  I always look forwarding to reading your posts!!!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 05:35:55 PM
MOST LIKELY OFF TOPIC........but I am watching this closely>>> It peaked my interest......

Body found outside Walgreens on Newberry

Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.

The Alachua County Sheriff's Office is conducting a death investigation after a
man's body was found inside a vehicle outside a local store Monday evening.

Officers were contacted about a 20-year-old man, who was in a vehicle at the Walgreens at 7520 Newberry Road shortly after 6 p.m., said Sheriff's Office spokesman Art Forgey.

Investigators found no indication of foul play was involved in the man's death but were awaiting autopsy results in the case.

Forgey said the man had an Orlando address.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081016/NEWS/810162919/1105/NEWS?Title=Body_found_outside_Walgreens_on_Newberry


Sounds like a suicide to me




Yeppers.....anyone heard from Lee yet......Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 05:36:22 PM
MOST LIKELY OFF TOPIC........but I am watching this closely>>> It peaked my interest......

Body found outside Walgreens on Newberry

Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.

The Alachua County Sheriff's Office is conducting a death investigation after a
man's body was found inside a vehicle outside a local store Monday evening.

Officers were contacted about a 20-year-old man, who was in a vehicle at the Walgreens at 7520 Newberry Road shortly after 6 p.m., said Sheriff's Office spokesman Art Forgey.

Investigators found no indication of foul play was involved in the man's death but were awaiting autopsy results in the case.

Forgey said the man had an Orlando address.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081016/NEWS/810162919/1105/NEWS?Title=Body_found_outside_Walgreens_on_Newberry


Sounds like a suicide to me




Yeppers.....anyone heard from Lee yet......Des



Not a peep!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 16, 2008, 05:36:48 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

CaseyA has not matured past the age of 10-12. If you were to sit down with your 12 year old and try to help them understand how GOOD GRADES would make an impact on the future, such as college choice, job stability, career growth, they would listen but they wouldn’t have the global understanding of how it would truly impact them. Right now the 12 year old world is all about them, their friends, what are you wearing, who said what, who did this? The world around them is a microcosm of the world. This is why CaseyA does not understand the terms, “LIFE in prison” or “Death Penalty.” As you can see by the maps of her travels, she pretty much stays in a 5 mile radius of her home. She’s never lived on her own. She can’t hold a job. She has no understanding of responsibility or accountability.

Remember when she said, “I was arrested on a F-whim today?” She doesn’t feel that she deserves to be punished. She doesn’t understand why people are upset with her, why they are standing outside of her house yelling angry things, why there is so much media attention surrounding Caylee. She is frustrated now because she has no one to lie to. This is why you see her tears. They are not tears of “Oh my goodness I am really in trouble now.” They are tears of frustration. Remember when she said to someone after her first interrogation (I can’t remember who) “No one is listening to anything I say.” What she meant was, “No one is listening to my lies.” These lies have ALWAYS worked in the past and she doesn’t understand why they are not working now. In the past all she had to do is say the right thing until the other person took the bait, if that didn’t work, she would use sex, if that didn’t work, she would get angry and turn the tables. She is thinking I wish people would just leave me alone, I don’t understand what the big deal is. She has no idea why a lady in small town Iowa would call NG and make a comment about Caylee. She doesn’t even understand why NG would have discussions about Caylee every night. She has convinced her mother (and others) to see her as the VICTIM.

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”

CaseyA understands right from wrong but not as you and I do. She only understands this from the vantage point of how is this going to affect ME. When she lies, she doesn’t understand how more lying can make things worse. She doesn’t understand “worse.”

If you were to drop CaseyA in the middle of the Sahara she would think, “I only need to get over this mound of sand, then I will be ok.” She can’t conceptualize that there are thousands mounds of sand she must face. She believes that once all of the hype dies down, this will go away. If she murdered Caylee, she views it as justifying her needs rather that right and wrong. If it suits CaseyA’s needs, then it is ok. If Caylee died by accident she feels no tie to it, which is why she would not admit it. Because she does not connect with responsibilities, she cannot understand that if Caylee died due to an accident how that would make her responsible.

In one session I had a patient who had done some pretty horrible things in life. As I sat there listening to her describe in great detail the destruction she had caused I was amazed that she could talk about things so non-chalantly. As if she was describing her grocery list. There are people born without nerve endings. They cannot feel any pain on the skin unless it goes past the dermal layer. So, a pin prick or a slap wouldn’t faze them. I relate that to the sociopath/psychopath behavior. I believe that CaseyA leans more toward psychopath. Sociopaths are typically anti-social where psychopaths are engaging, charming, confident and draw people to them instantly. Casey is unique from other sociopath/psychopaths. Other sociopaths/psychopaths have a clear concept of eternity/global impact and life-changing events. She is extremely childlike in all of her behaviors and that will never change. She will always think the way she does. Once she gets settled in prison, she will find new friends (victims), she will engage in internet chats (if allowed) and she will convince someone that she has been wrongly persecuted, then once she no longer has a use for them, she will dispose of them. 

Ok…I’m sorry that my posts are always sooooo long! Forgive! :)

Oh and BTW-a good read, “The Psychopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D
About people who do not necessarily kill or draw blood, their psychopathic behaviors are silently destructive.

That was just fasinating Lucky!
Can you do Cindy next please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 05:36:49 PM
In the police interview with Cindy, she constantly tries to dominate and tell the detectives what to do and what evidence means.  At one point, when she is standing behind a detective, he tells her he is not used to conducting an interview with the person standing behind him.  She immediately says, "Oh, I am sorry if I am intimidating you."  She did indeed inform the detectives that they did not need to see her cellphone records because there was nothing in them.  In other words, she decides what is important to the case.  Most people are respectful of detectives and answer their questions.  Cindy just rambled and rambled, hardly giving them a chance to speak.  When her mouth gets turned on, it is non-stop for as long as she can manage.  She did that in the last interview I saw, the one in which she was outdoors, yapping about Lawson Lamar and LE and how "we should all be careful" and Caylee is still alive and she dusts her room so that it will be nice when she comes home.  She seldom took a breath in that interview.  Does she ever just listen?  I wonder how George stands it? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 05:37:48 PM
Higherhopes has been reporting that Lee is around town.  Not in hiding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 05:38:11 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)



Afternoon Monkeys!!!  I remember seeing the LE interview with Cindy where they ask her for the Credit card records and Cindy says "I told you there is nothing on them that involves this case"  or something like that and LE says this is the problem were having and your not cooperating with us.  It was the 3rd part of her interview I believe.

in reality - they should subpoena her records back to March at least.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 05:40:14 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Karen.  I am learning a lot from the posters here.  This is a good forum, with almost all members being fair-minded and thoughtful.  I value everyone's opinions. 

Concerning Lee, he is definitely keeping a lower profile than he did for a while.  I wonder if he still works, if he and Mallory really broke up, if he spends much time with his parents these days.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
In the police interview with Cindy, she constantly tries to dominate and tell the detectives what to do and what evidence means.  At one point, when she is standing behind a detective, he tells her he is not used to conducting an interview with the person standing behind him.  She immediately says, "Oh, I am sorry if I am intimidating you."  She did indeed inform the detectives that they did not need to see her cellphone records because there was nothing in them.  In other words, she decides what is important to the case.  Most people are respectful of detectives and answer their questions.  Cindy just rambled and rambled, hardly giving them a chance to speak.  When her mouth gets turned on, it is non-stop for as long as she can manage.  She did that in the last interview I saw, the one in which she was outdoors, yapping about Lawson Lamar and LE and how "we should all be careful" and Caylee is still alive and she dusts her room so that it will be nice when she comes home.  She seldom took a breath in that interview.  Does she ever just listen?  I wonder how George stands it? 
George is never home...He is out passing out flyers and driving the billboard around..OH YES! I forgot going nut's in news video's ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Western Observr on October 16, 2008, 05:41:53 PM
In the police interview with Cindy, she constantly tries to dominate and tell the detectives what to do and what evidence means.  At one point, when she is standing behind a detective, he tells her he is not used to conducting an interview with the person standing behind him.  She immediately says, "Oh, I am sorry if I am intimidating you."  She did indeed inform the detectives that they did not need to see her cellphone records because there was nothing in them.  In other words, she decides what is important to the case.  Most people are respectful of detectives and answer their questions.  Cindy just rambled and rambled, hardly giving them a chance to speak.  When her mouth gets turned on, it is non-stop for as long as she can manage.  She did that in the last interview I saw, the one in which she was outdoors, yapping about Lawson Lamar and LE and how "we should all be careful" and Caylee is still alive and she dusts her room so that it will be nice when she comes home.  She seldom took a breath in that interview.  Does she ever just listen?  I wonder how George stands it? 

Plus she never once looked at the interviewer, her eyes moved from side to side constantly. She knew she was telling a pack of lies.  Body language.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 05:43:44 PM
Higherhopes has been reporting that Lee is around town.  Not in hiding.

Thanks....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 05:45:06 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 05:46:28 PM
In the police interview with Cindy, she constantly tries to dominate and tell the detectives what to do and what evidence means.  At one point, when she is standing behind a detective, he tells her he is not used to conducting an interview with the person standing behind him.  She immediately says, "Oh, I am sorry if I am intimidating you."  She did indeed inform the detectives that they did not need to see her cellphone records because there was nothing in them.  In other words, she decides what is important to the case.  Most people are respectful of detectives and answer their questions.  Cindy just rambled and rambled, hardly giving them a chance to speak.  When her mouth gets turned on, it is non-stop for as long as she can manage.  She did that in the last interview I saw, the one in which she was outdoors, yapping about Lawson Lamar and LE and how "we should all be careful" and Caylee is still alive and she dusts her room so that it will be nice when she comes home.  She seldom took a breath in that interview.  Does she ever just listen?  I wonder how George stands it? 

Hudsunn - over the years we have had some truly stellar posters here. And your certainly one of them. I too enjoy your posts.

Now, would it be a scream if the 2nd POI or second possible DNA suspect was in fact Cindy?

Most of the time we are focused on Lee or George, but the reality is Cindy would break bones to protect Casey and she is simply not cooperating and is obfuscating.

Her treatment of Tim, her lack of desire to close the case even if it were a worst case scenario, the fact that she will not voluntarily hand over records.... the list goes on and on.

I have found that when people do the things that Cindy does, there's a huge reason. When you have a family of lying weasels it's hard to get a bead on which one is the possible accomplice. I am sure the accomplice is a family member - but which one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 05:47:26 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 


You forgot to mention honesty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 05:47:40 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 
George. Tim Miller or john walsh... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: Mark Klass  ::MonkeyLaugh:: Well it's George's story let him tell it like casey did..lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 05:51:20 PM
I totally agree that Casey is the perfect example of arrested development.  She is a child in a woman's body.  Her mind still operates on a juvenile level.  People may have different ideas of why she is that way.  I suspect she has been babied all her life and never allowed to grow up.  But she may have been a sociopath and immature from day one.  It is hard to say.  I will remind everyone that babying someone is the perfect way to control them.  We all know people -- friends or family -- who zero in on people who are weak or insecure and claim to want to help them, protect them, do things for them.  What they really do is take over;  A genuinely kind and helpful person does not want to run someone else's life for them.  That is why is see Cindy as such a culprit is all of this.  No matter what her intentions, she wants to control, to rule the roost, the criticize others and mold them to her liking.  Caylee became a pawn between two very competitive, jealous and controlling queen bees -- her mother and her grandmother.  But Cindy was the stronger because she got her way about most things.  Casey had a baby she did not want and was not ready for.  Cindy took over and soon the baby became more hers than Casey's, and by then, Casey felt conflicted.  She did not want to be a mother but she did not want her mom to raise Caylee, either.  That led to a drastic action on her part.  Even now, Casey expects someone to get her out of this mess, so she can go back to her computer and be taken care of by others. 


So let me ask you something..If this is true,how do you explain Casey not fearing her mother in any way at all.She stole massive amounts of money from her,her grandparents,her brother,her friends,neighbors could hear her screaming at George and Cindy,etc..What about Casey mooching off of her parents Hudsunn?Did Casey ever buy groceries,diapers,a crib,clothes,toys,pay medical bills for Caylee,or anything?Do you not think Cindy had a right to express her opinion on things when it was her paying all the bills? I don't know,maybe Cindy should have thrown her and Caylee out at the get go but then she would have been nailed for that too..Just seems like a no win for Cindy any way she went...jmo

For the record Hudsunn,I do enjoy reading your post and I am not,I repeat not,trying to spar with you at all.I too am just trying to understand..Also,I babied my daughter like crazy because she was such a miracle to begin with.It took seven major surgeries for me to conceive.. She did not turn out to be anything like Casey..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 05:51:45 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 

OUCH

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED AT ALL. Maybe it should be rephrased. He INTENTS TO MAKE LIVING MISSING CHILDREN HIS LIFE'S WORK.

That will remove him from the most serious cases and he can sit in a toll booth looking at kids in cars and comparing them to photographs or amber Amber Alerts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 05:52:20 PM

Hudsunn - over the years we have had some truly stellar posters here. And your certainly one of them. I too enjoy your posts.

Now, would it be a scream if the 2nd POI or second possible DNA suspect was in fact Cindy?

Most of the time we are focused on Lee or George, but the reality is Cindy would break bones to protect Casey and she is simply not cooperating and is obfuscating.

Her treatment of Tim, her lack of desire to close the case even if it were a worst case scenario, the fact that she will not voluntarily hand over records.... the list goes on and on.

I have found that when people do the things that Cindy does, there's a huge reason. When you have a family of lying weasels it's hard to get a bead on which one is the possible accomplice. I am sure the accomplice is a family member - but which one.


I have thought each one at different times.  Cindy an accessory without possibly knowing it at the time, washing things in Casey's car.  Lee, the computer and getting her things from Tony's.  George with the gas cans.  Lee's not wanting to submit DNA is very hinky to me.   Maybe they all didn't know about it in the beginning, but they have a pretty good idea now!

I think their adamant denial is because if they hold on to the thought of Caylee coming home, if she comes home, everything will be normal again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 

What a joke George is!   Dang that makes me sick!  He cant even face the truth that his daughter is a murderer and his grandchild is not missing but dead. How could he possibly be any help in another missing child case when he wont help his own situation.  What is he going to be the designated chauffeur for the billboard?  What an idiot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 16, 2008, 05:53:01 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 


You forgot to mention honesty

yes, i cant see him ever being seen as anything other than dishonest, and the seed from which crazy casey sprang...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Interesting about the Crane's Landing.. and how Casey and Tony went there to check out an apartment.  Tony was looking for a place.. did Casey suggest this complex to him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 05:54:01 PM
In the police interview with Cindy, she constantly tries to dominate and tell the detectives what to do and what evidence means.  At one point, when she is standing behind a detective, he tells her he is not used to conducting an interview with the person standing behind him.  She immediately says, "Oh, I am sorry if I am intimidating you."  She did indeed inform the detectives that they did not need to see her cellphone records because there was nothing in them.  In other words, she decides what is important to the case.  Most people are respectful of detectives and answer their questions.  Cindy just rambled and rambled, hardly giving them a chance to speak.  When her mouth gets turned on, it is non-stop for as long as she can manage.  She did that in the last interview I saw, the one in which she was outdoors, yapping about Lawson Lamar and LE and how "we should all be careful" and Caylee is still alive and she dusts her room so that it will be nice when she comes home.  She seldom took a breath in that interview.  Does she ever just listen?  I wonder how George stands it? 

Hudsunn - over the years we have had some truly stellar posters here. And your certainly one of them. I too enjoy your posts.

Now, would it be a scream if the 2nd POI or second possible DNA suspect was in fact Cindy?

Most of the time we are focused on Lee or George, but the reality is Cindy would break bones to protect Casey and she is simply not cooperating and is obfuscating.

Her treatment of Tim, her lack of desire to close the case even if it were a worst case scenario, the fact that she will not voluntarily hand over records.... the list goes on and on.

I have found that when people do the things that Cindy does, there's a huge reason. When you have a family of lying weasels it's hard to get a bead on which one is the possible accomplice. I am sure the accomplice is a family member - but which one.
I agree another family member is involved..I just do not understand why le has not arrested cindy for withholding information..Casey borrowing her car and i bet she gave le the wrong pants..I'm sure le hasn't returned the ones they have yet and casey was wearing a pair just like them to jail...I really do think lee is involved in some way to..I would love to wack job cindy and lee get cuffed and halled away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 05:54:32 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

CaseyA has not matured past the age of 10-12. If you were to sit down with your 12 year old and try to help them understand how GOOD GRADES would make an impact on the future, such as college choice, job stability, career growth, they would listen but they wouldn’t have the global understanding of how it would truly impact them. Right now the 12 year old world is all about them, their friends, what are you wearing, who said what, who did this? The world around them is a microcosm of the world. This is why CaseyA does not understand the terms, “LIFE in prison” or “Death Penalty.” As you can see by the maps of her travels, she pretty much stays in a 5 mile radius of her home. She’s never lived on her own. She can’t hold a job. She has no understanding of responsibility or accountability.

Remember when she said, “I was arrested on a F-whim today?” She doesn’t feel that she deserves to be punished. She doesn’t understand why people are upset with her, why they are standing outside of her house yelling angry things, why there is so much media attention surrounding Caylee. She is frustrated now because she has no one to lie to. This is why you see her tears. They are not tears of “Oh my goodness I am really in trouble now.” They are tears of frustration. Remember when she said to someone after her first interrogation (I can’t remember who) “No one is listening to anything I say.” What she meant was, “No one is listening to my lies.” These lies have ALWAYS worked in the past and she doesn’t understand why they are not working now. In the past all she had to do is say the right thing until the other person took the bait, if that didn’t work, she would use sex, if that didn’t work, she would get angry and turn the tables. She is thinking I wish people would just leave me alone, I don’t understand what the big deal is. She has no idea why a lady in small town Iowa would call NG and make a comment about Caylee. She doesn’t even understand why NG would have discussions about Caylee every night. She has convinced her mother (and others) to see her as the VICTIM.

The physical proof: This is why she has absolutely no emotion when it comes to Caylee, ie, during that initial 31 day period. This is why she can go on Target shopping sprees and not buy one thing for Caylee, this is why she can delete 200 photos of Caylee, this is why she can dance in a hot body contest, this is why none of her friends knew Caylee was even missing. It was only after the 911 call that she sent out the mass texts to her friends. She did this because CindyA or (someone) told her to. And in all practicality, she may not even have been the one who sent them.

The emotional proof: This is why she said during a jail call, “All they care about is getting Caylee back.” Meaning “Ummm hello, I am the one that has been arrested!” Then after realizing that Kristin is going to think that sounds strange, she then says, “And that’s all I care about right now.” Meaning, “I’d better say something that makes it sound like I am concerned also.”

CaseyA understands right from wrong but not as you and I do. She only understands this from the vantage point of how is this going to affect ME. When she lies, she doesn’t understand how more lying can make things worse. She doesn’t understand “worse.”

If you were to drop CaseyA in the middle of the Sahara she would think, “I only need to get over this mound of sand, then I will be ok.” She can’t conceptualize that there are thousands mounds of sand she must face. She believes that once all of the hype dies down, this will go away. If she murdered Caylee, she views it as justifying her needs rather that right and wrong. If it suits CaseyA’s needs, then it is ok. If Caylee died by accident she feels no tie to it, which is why she would not admit it. Because she does not connect with responsibilities, she cannot understand that if Caylee died due to an accident how that would make her responsible.

In one session I had a patient who had done some pretty horrible things in life. As I sat there listening to her describe in great detail the destruction she had caused I was amazed that she could talk about things so non-chalantly. As if she was describing her grocery list. There are people born without nerve endings. They cannot feel any pain on the skin unless it goes past the dermal layer. So, a pin prick or a slap wouldn’t faze them. I relate that to the sociopath/psychopath behavior. I believe that CaseyA leans more toward psychopath. Sociopaths are typically anti-social where psychopaths are engaging, charming, confident and draw people to them instantly. Casey is unique from other sociopath/psychopaths. Other sociopaths/psychopaths have a clear concept of eternity/global impact and life-changing events. She is extremely childlike in all of her behaviors and that will never change. She will always think the way she does. Once she gets settled in prison, she will find new friends (victims), she will engage in internet chats (if allowed) and she will convince someone that she has been wrongly persecuted, then once she no longer has a use for them, she will dispose of them. 

Ok…I’m sorry that my posts are always sooooo long! Forgive! :)

Oh and BTW-a good read, “The Psychopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D
About people who do not necessarily kill or draw blood, their psychopathic behaviors are silently destructive.


This is a good post & i agree with most everthing you've said. They're a couple things I'd like to add. A psychopath/sociopath is defined by a specific list of behaviors. They are almost never diagnosed, they are identifyed. There is basically no difference between a psychopath, sociopath, or anti-social personality disorder. All of these terms are used by different experts, psychologists, therapists etc. to describe the SAME type of individual.

Also the book you suggested is  excellent, I have read it 3 times & have suggested it myself several times. The name of the book is "The SOCIOPATH Next Door", unless it's been printed with 2 different titles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 


You forgot to mention honesty

yes, i cant see him ever being seen as anything other than dishonest, and the seed from which crazy casey sprang...
Unless cindy was a hoochie to...I'm implying the mother like daughter thing. The apple not falling far from the tree..George may not be as smart as jesse grund to want a dna test? Just throwing it out there because we just never know


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 06:04:05 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 

OUCH

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED AT ALL. Maybe it should be rephrased. He INTENTS TO MAKE LIVING MISSING CHILDREN HIS LIFE'S WORK.

That will remove him from the most serious cases and he can sit in a toll booth looking at kids in cars and comparing them to photographs or amber Amber Alerts.

I for one think its an insult to even read that name in the same sentence with people like John Walsh, Mark Klaas or Tim Miller. Unlike "him"-John, Mark and Tim have faced their tragedies-picked themselves up and ACTUALLY  help others. 

He has said that he is searching 24/7 for Caylee. That is a big fat lie.  HE doesn't have time to find her-he is much to busy driving the billboard (with a bad number on it) around Orlando. Unless he wants to help another family learn to cover up and lie-i believe that "he" should stick to his security job. And even that is a joke!

I personally don't think he is cut out searching for missing fur babies-let alone missing children.

~just my opinion~
**jumps off my soapbox**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:04:56 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:05:40 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 


You forgot to mention honesty

yes, i cant see him ever being seen as anything other than dishonest, and the seed from which crazy casey sprang...
Unless cindy was a hoochie to...I'm implying the mother like daughter thing. The apple not falling far from the tree..George may not be as smart as jesse grund to want a dna test? Just throwing it out there because we just never know
I just often wonder why casey and lee look alike..Yet i do not see any cindy or george facial feature's in them...Just the lying and the crazy...GO FIGURE!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 06:06:06 PM

I agree another family member is involved..I just do not understand why le has not arrested cindy for withholding information..Casey borrowing her car and i bet she gave le the wrong pants..I'm sure le hasn't returned the ones they have yet and casey was wearing a pair just like them to jail...I really do think lee is involved in some way to..I would love to wack job cindy and lee get cuffed and halled away.

mrsrocko - when a case drags on and on the LE end up with more questions, not less. As the lies compound they need to be checked and re-checked. I have always wondered if Cindy didn't just LET Casey use the car.

All we have are the words of liars to go by. We just don't know that Casey took the car.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 06:06:32 PM
KEVEN COE IS STAYING IN PRISON!

IN A CLEVER ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS OT...:

Coe, who has maintained his innocence throughout, was the son of Gordon and Ruth Coe.

Gordon Coe, who died in 1999, was a longtime editor at the Spokane Daily Chronicle and directed much of the coverage of the "South Hill rapist" until his son was charged in connection with the string of attacks.

Between Coe's two trials, Ruth Coe was convicted of attempting to hire someone to kill the prosecutor at the time, Don Brockett, and the judge, George Shields. Ruth Coe died in 1996.

In a 1993 interview with the Associated Press, Gordon Coe strongly defended his wife and son



so... basically i was just trying to say HOW FAR A PARENT is willing to go to protect thier child, even against OVERWHELMING evidence to their ...uh... perhaps.. GUILT?




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OriginalKat on October 16, 2008, 06:08:04 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts. 

OUCH

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED AT ALL. Maybe it should be rephrased. He INTENTS TO MAKE LIVING MISSING CHILDREN HIS LIFE'S WORK.

That will remove him from the most serious cases and he can sit in a toll booth looking at kids in cars and comparing them to photographs or amber Amber Alerts.
Actually they will starve if he tries to make a living at it. So far he isn't doing very good trying to find his granddaughter and bringing her home. With his personal connection to her you would think he would have to succeed at that one first.

I think this very aggressive search they are doing now is something the defense attorneys have suggested before trial but I would not think it would do any good locally because I do believe it will be moved to another county in FL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 06:09:06 PM
I heard George say that he intends to make missing children, not just his granddaughter, his life's work now.  Guess the security world has lost a talented newcomes.  Ouch!  It seems that he fancies himself the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas or maybe even Tim Miller, but he does not know how much hard work, sacrifice, talent and determination go into their efforts.

IMO, these subhumans that I refer to as the "house of sociopath's" plotted this plan to become just that, not hard working of course, but of celebrity status being donated to, then receiving speaking engagements with provided transportation & fees.  I see not one ounce of integrity, decency or honor among them but they really have visions about working for no one, being experts, appearing helpful when in actuality they are looking for a free ride at the expense & loss of devestated people & real families.

Perhaps they were aware that there are some who are making a fairy more than decent living doing just that, who lost no one from their own family, but incorporated a non-profit became aware of how this seemed to be an industry unto itself.  When the opportunity presented itself, BINGO, the jealous freaks saw that they could make career changes & reverse their financial catastrophe.  I think it's part of the "original script" planned to take place once they established themselves in the national arena & got their murderer offspring the least sentence available with the best defense they could muster, as long as they could pull it off getting the pass as after all listen to some "they are victims", yeah, right & I'm the niece of the Queen of England.  They are at minimum, accessories after the fact & could very well be co-conspirator's & daily I am praying that their roles are in fact unveiled & they are held accountable here on earth.

Truth be told, they are beggar's at the public troth of sympathy, Look & see what the numbers end up being disclosed & that will not contain any amounts of money they received in the mail or in donation jars, or gift checks or services performed free, on & on.  Am willing to bet it was more than their normal take home pay & then some.

Bet you that the poor people who had to work with that wretch CA are probably doing a happy dance every morning when they get to their jobs & know she won't be there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?

Everything!   He's going to try a rip *our* key witness apart.....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 06:10:37 PM


I have found that when people do the things that Cindy does, there's a huge reason. When you have a family of lying weasels it's hard to get a bead on which one is the possible accomplice. I am sure the accomplice is a family member - but which one.
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Rob, I agree.  This is the family of lying weasels, big center one is Mama Weasel Supremo (CinCIn)
 ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/weasels.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
KEVEN COE IS STAYING IN PRISON!

IN A CLEVER ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS OT...:

Coe, who has maintained his innocence throughout, was the son of Gordon and Ruth Coe.

Gordon Coe, who died in 1999, was a longtime editor at the Spokane Daily Chronicle and directed much of the coverage of the "South Hill rapist" until his son was charged in connection with the string of attacks.

Between Coe's two trials, Ruth Coe was convicted of attempting to hire someone to kill the prosecutor at the time, Don Brockett, and the judge, George Shields. Ruth Coe died in 1996.

In a 1993 interview with the Associated Press, Gordon Coe strongly defended his wife and son



so... basically i was just trying to say HOW FAR A PARENT is willing to go to protect thier child, even against OVERWHELMING evidence to their ...uh... perhaps.. GUILT?




I'd take a bullet for mine but I'm not going to jail for her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...


WOW  -  I think I got a BINGO from DES!!!!!!!!!!  LOL - after working in the yard for the last 4 hours and being barely able to move, this takes the pain away!!!!!!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 06:11:30 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



 Dr. Lawrence Koblinsky teaches at John Jay University in New York. That is all i know about him  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:12:01 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



Sure Des - what do you need? I don't know anything about him but will do anything you need me to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 16, 2008, 06:13:35 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



 Dr. Lawrence Koblinsky teaches at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. That is all i know about him  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry Des..its John Jay College of Criminal Justice-in New York.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on Today at 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: CuriousCat on Today at 09:04:41 AM
<<<SNIP>>>

I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail.

<From TOT - not sure if the copy paste from other thread will work!>
Was there not a phone call between Lee and Casey where Lee is asking something like"Can they still be trusted"? I know it was something like that.Very weird statement because it caught my attention..I dunno...

TOT - agree there were several things like that said that bug me still today.  Another thought on the mention of the blackjack - could be they each had disposable phones to communicate about what happened or the cover-up.  IMHO, their convo's were no where near normal sibling convo's......... I know, nothing is normal with ANY of them!


Very well could be...Maybe the purchases are on the receipts Cindy hasn't turned over....

BINGO!....maybe that's why LA was so willing to hand over phone records to LP....cause he was only handing over *some* of them.....I like the way the Monkeys think!....Des...


WOW  -  I think I got a BINGO from DES!!!!!!!!!!  LOL - after working in the yard for the last 4 hours and being barely able to move, this takes the pain away!!!!!!!! 

You sure did!!!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:14:29 PM

I agree another family member is involved..I just do not understand why le has not arrested cindy for withholding information..Casey borrowing her car and i bet she gave le the wrong pants..I'm sure le hasn't returned the ones they have yet and casey was wearing a pair just like them to jail...I really do think lee is involved in some way to..I would love to wack job cindy and lee get cuffed and halled away.

mrsrocko - when a case drags on and on the LE end up with more questions, not less. As the lies compound they need to be checked and re-checked. I have always wondered if Cindy didn't just LET Casey use the car.

All we have are the words of liars to go by. We just don't know that Casey took the car.


I understand what your saying..I guess a few months ago i would have excepted Casey just took the car... Now that i see all the ways cindy has tried to cover thing up..I believe she gave her the car..That is just my opinoin, i just wish i could prove it..This crazy grandma just makes me as pist off as her crazy daughter makes me..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
[Snip]

Kobilinsky also remains active on the DNA front: Another of his projects is a concerted effort to improve the scientific protocols used in lab work. New advances in DNA testing, particularly of so-called low-copy number DNA samples, have increased the power of the tests but also the potential for errors in identification. Because the low-copy method uses such small numbers of DNA molecules--genetic profiles have been generated from as little as a single human cell (and there are trillions of cells in the body)--the testing must be done especially carefully.

http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/folio/spring2005/bloodwork.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:15:51 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



 Dr. Lawrence Koblinsky teaches at John Jay University in New York. That is all i know about him  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks...I'm copying and pasting everything posted on him in a file to send to our key witness.....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:16:39 PM
 Lawrence Kobilinsky is the Associate Provost of the Interdisciplinary Forensics Science Department at John Jay College...
Source: MORRIS MEISTER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE LECTURE SERIES [www.bxscience.edu


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des

Perhaps Nancy Grace could provide a resume, you know she has to have his complete resume in the office.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



i found this : professor of forensic science at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City
its not much


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:17:23 PM

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:18:57 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?

Everything!   He's going to try a rip *our* key witness apart.....Des


I will start digging.. To be honest.. I can't remember if he was a defence witness or prosicution..My opinoin is i couldn't make heads or tails out of the info he gave on the stand...I will start checking on him though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:19:45 PM
MORRIS MEISTER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE LECTURE SERIES

Will proudly host:

Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky

Date: March 20th, 2002

Time: 12:15pm to 1:40pm

Place: The School Auditorium

Topic: The World Trade Center As A Crime Scene/Germ Warfare

 

 

DR. LAWRENCE KOBILINSKY

Associate Provost of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, internationally renowned forensic scientist and consultant to network news programs on issues related to forensic science.

Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is the Associate Provost of the Interdisciplinary Forensics Science Department at John Jay College. He received his B.S. and M.A. degrees from the City College of City University of New York and his Ph.D. degree from the City University of New York. His doctoral work was performed at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine Biochemistry department, and he became a postdoctoral fellow at the Sloan-Kettering Institute in New York City after receiving his doctorate. Dr. Koblinsky is a member of 18 professional organizations, and serves on the Boards of the New York Microscopical Society and the Eastern Analytical Symposium. He has served as a consultant to CBS and other network news programs on issues related to forensic science, as well as an advisor to the U.S. State Department regarding forensic science laboratories in Eastern Europe. An internationally renowned forensic scientist, he has served as advisor to criminalistics laboratories in several countries, and is both a Diplomat of the American College of Forensic Examiners and a Board Certified Forensic Examiner. He has received numerous honors, including the Federal Law Enforcement Officers "Civilian Award" and has published extensively on the subject of forensic DNA analysis.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:20:50 PM
Klass or Anybody!!! Can we start a seperate thread for this info on Dr. Lawrence kobelinski..So Des can get it from there? Or should we just email it..I'm kinda curious about all this info on him myself


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:21:03 PM
War in Iraq:
DNA and Saddam Hussein
With Lawrence Kobilinsky
Prof., Forensic Science
John Jay College of Criminal Justice
Wednesday, April 15, 2003; 1 p.m. ET

Gen. Tommy R. Franks revealed last Sunday that the U.S. military has obtained a DNA sample that would enable forensics experts to identify the bodies of Saddam Hussein and his two sons if they are found. U.S. officials in Washington disclosed that Hussein's half-brother, Barzan Ibrahim Hasan, had been apprehended late last week in northern Iraq and that he could provide "a walking source of DNA" because Hasan and Hussein share the same mother.

Forensics expert Lawrence Kobilinsky, Ph.D., was online Wednesday, April 16 at 1 p.m. ET, to discuss the procedure scientists would undertake to determine whether bodies found buried underneath the rubble of a bulding in the Mansour neighborhood of Baghdad bombed last Wednesday were in fact Saddam Hussein and his sons.

Kobilinsky has served as consultant to CBS and other networks on issues related to forensic science as well as advisor to the U.S. State Dept. He has also served as advisor to criminal labs in several countries including Mexico, China, Brazil and others.

A transcript follows.

Editor's Note: Washingtonpost.com moderators retain editorial control over Live Online discussions and choose the most relevant questions for guests and hosts; guests and hosts can decline to answer questions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/03/special/iraq/sp_iraq_kobilinsky041603.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:21:24 PM
Should I stop????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:25:28 PM
I found an interesting video as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 06:26:15 PM
WFTV 6 PM Newscast -

Boggy Creek Road, close to airport. Not on 417, girl wearing baseball cap.
Mark somebody, looking for scrap metal along roadside, late June, had a friend with him (friend not on interview though, they're at the site)
Has called LE and 2 tips lines, nobody seems to have checked out his story - that he knows of.
Wants to get together his own search team.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:26:20 PM
Thanks....Thanks...Thanks....Everyone.....I'm getting it all....You Gals and Guys are GREAT!!!!!!....I am humbled by you all....Des


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 06:26:21 PM
Here's aletter he wrote while working for a defense team...at least it gives an idea of what he does to the prosecution...

http://www.benlaguer.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/kobilinsky_letter.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: FL Beagle Mom on October 16, 2008, 06:26:48 PM
ok theories please where would the NEW organic evidence come from????
LA's DNA?

I AGREE!!

I suspect that Lee Anthony may have attempted to shield his sister from the legal consequences of her actions and ... assisted her in the disposal of his niece's remains.  Maybe ... just maybe ... forensic DNA testing of the inside of the trunk of Casey's vehicle may be a match to Lee's DNA.  Maybe one of the strands of hair ...




Janet, I'm thinking along the same lines as LA helping in some way and leaving some dna behind. When I just read the organic stuff, I was thinking that Lee saw Caylee, or smelled the decomp and got sick. Just a thought!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:27:23 PM
Luckycharmsprincess - WOW - a soul mate! LOL  Your post (long so here is the link http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3721.340 )  was brain candy for me!  I always wanted to go back to major in forensic psychology.  Your assessment is dead on to what I am thinking, however I might add from my arm chair, early sexual abuse.  The reason is it would explain the stall at age 10-14 ( I know you said 10 to 12) and it would explain the careless sexual escapades.  The need for men is almost akin to the Stockholm syndrome, in that  instead of wanting to win her abusers love - she is searching for love with her permissible behavior.
ANYWHOOOOOOOO - I love your posts and we should do coffee! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 06:27:36 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:27:39 PM
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky , John Jay College of Criminal Justice
899 10th Ave.
New York, NY 10019

Profile:
Consultant to attorneys in the areas of forensic biology, serology and DNA analysis for more than 20 years.

Years as Expert: 20

Primary Area of Expertise: DNA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 06:28:24 PM
On the John J. school website, they have a directory listing... I posted the link instead of his number, hope that's ok... I'm still a newbie and I don't want any red buttons in my future! 
Besides, I doubt he would return a phone call from the other side, but it might help...
http://doit.jjay.cuny.edu/intranet/intradir/whole.asp


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OriginalKat on October 16, 2008, 06:28:49 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



I don't know if this is what you want but I found this. It seems to be a video so I couldn't play it on my computer.

Jan 31, 1997
http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/nc7j31.html

Robert talks with Lawrence Kobelinski, the associate provost and a professor of forensic science at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. They discuss the news that the laboratories of the Federal Bureau of Investigation may have mishandled evidence from the Oklahoma City bombing, and what that means for expert witnesses around the nation. (4:30)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nicnic on October 16, 2008, 06:29:09 PM
Lawrence's research interests concern the use of state-of-the-art technology to identify individuals from physiological fluids and tissues, and to associate biological crime scene evidence with a suspect. Forensic DNA analysis has been termed a revolutionary technique which resulted from the ground-breaking work of Drs. Kary Mullis and Alec Jeffries. The technology has evolved ever since.

The late 80’s saw the adoption of RFLP (DNA Fingerprinting) methods by a number of public and private laboratories. The FBI and other Federal, State and County laboratories became keenly interested in the promise of this technology. There was a clear transition from protein analysis to nucleotide analysis, the latter being far superior because of a greater degree of polymorphism that exists at various genetic loci within the genome. During the early 90's, the expensive and time consuming RFLP procedure has been supplanted by the use of analyses of evidence that had been amplified by the Polymerase Chain Reaction technology to generate large quantities of genetic material from, often, miniscule amounts of evidence found at crime scenes. The amplified DNA can then be tested using a variety of different methods such as reverse dot blot procedures, gel or capillary electrophoresis.

Currently, Lawrence's research is focused on single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) detection and on sequencing technology. Although SNP analysis is not yet performed by forensic laboratories, it is in many ways far superior to the current widely used PCR-STR analysis. The forensic biology laboratory at John Jay boasts all the necessary equipment to perform all types of forensic DNA analysis. This equipment includes ABI-Prism sequencers (310 and 377), the latter being a gel electrophoresis instrument and the former being a capillary electrophoresis instrument. It also includes an ABI Taqman for real time PCR studies as well as SNP detection. SNP detection is also accomplished with a Transgenomic Wave instrument. The laboratory is also equipped with an Agilent system which features the latest chip technology for human identification. The Lab on a Chip uses micro-capillary electrophoresis followed by gene scanning to accomplish identification.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:29:40 PM
Klass or Anybody!!! Can we start a seperate thread for this info on Dr. Lawrence kobelinski..So Des can get it from there? Or should we just email it..I'm kinda curious about all this info on him myself

Yes...a new thread would keep the clutter out of this one....*unless* you want to know what the defence will be throwing out there to negate the Body Farm....AND...ORNL.....Des...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
Thanks....Thanks...Thanks....Everyone.....I'm getting it all....You Gals and Guys are GREAT!!!!!!....I am humbled by you all....Des
Here is a case where he testified for the defence..

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16nixzmary.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 06:30:24 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
Is this a different story because I thought it was a lady that reported it and I thought Casey had on a ball cap???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 06:31:12 PM
John Jay Seniors Win Top New York State Honors for Outstanding Forensic Science Research Projects

New York, NY — May 24, 2007 — John Jay seniors’ Nubia Ducasse and Angelica Vargas won first place for their outstanding research projects in the Natural Sciences category at the 15th Annual Collegiate Science and Technology Entry Program (CSTEP) Student Research Conference held in Lake George, NY on April 13-15.

“This accomplishment is a significant distinction for John Jay and highlights the important work of our Sciences Department. We congratulate our hardworking students and dedicated faculty,” said Jeremy Travis, President of John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

Nubia Ducasse won for a poster presentation titled “Short Tandem Repeat (STR) DNA Analysis: Comparing Low Copy Number (LCN) DNA Amplification of the CSF1PO STR Locus Using Mini STR Primers and Conventional STR Primers”. The presentation was based on a research project she is conducting with her mentor Professor Henrietta Nunno of Biology on a process for improving DNA profiles when only very small amounts of degraded DNA are available such as that from victims of the World Trade Center disaster.

The winning poster presentation titled “Headspace Liquid-Phase Microextraction of Methamphetamine and Amphetamine in Urine by an Aqueous Drop” of Angelica Vargas was on the development of a significantly cost-effective and highly accurate analytical method for identifying illicit drugs in urine samples. Mentored by Professor Yi He of Chemistry, Vargas is currently completing an internship at the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

Ducasse and Vargas, both majoring in Forensic Science, are enrolled in the Program for Research Initiatives for Science Majors (PRISM) at John Jay. This innovative umbrella program was created by Professor Lawrence Kobilinsky, Chair of the Department of Sciences, Professor Anthony Carpi of Environmental Toxicology & Chemistry and Professor Ron Pillete of Biology. PRISM offers mentoring and funding for student research through three different grants supporting undergraduate science research at John Jay.

Fifty schools from New York State participated in the CSTEP Student Research Conference including Columbia, New York University, Cornell, Syracuse, almost all State University of New York and City University of New York campuses. Students compete in Natural Sciences, Physical Sciences, Social Sciences and Human Services categories to be named best in their field of study.

Funded by the New York State Department of Education, CSTEP assists undergraduate students who are economically disadvantaged, or who are members of minority groups historically underrepresented in the science, technical, and heath professions.

About John Jay College of Criminal Justice: An international leader in educating for justice, John Jay College of Criminal Justice of The City University of New York offers a rich liberal arts and professional studies curriculum to upwards of 14,000 undergraduate and graduate students from more than 135 nations. In teaching, scholarship and research, the College approaches justice as an applied art and science in service to society and as an ongoing conversation about fundamental human desires for fairness, equality and the rule of law.


www.jjay.cuny.edu


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tater on October 16, 2008, 06:31:23 PM
Goodbye monkeys..Keep up the good work!!!! Justice for Caylee is what it's all about!!!

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/43goingtobed.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:31:49 PM
Klass or Anybody!!! Can we start a seperate thread for this info on Dr. Lawrence kobelinski..So Des can get it from there? Or should we just email it..I'm kinda curious about all this info on him myself

Yes...a new thread would keep the clutter out of this one....*unless* you want to know what the defence will be throwing out there to negate the Body Farm....AND...ORNL.....Des...
I believe that he had the most resrect for the body farm...I will have to search trans from ng before he was on the defence's side


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 06:31:52 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
Is this a different story because I thought it was a lady that reported it and I thought Casey had on a ball cap???

It was a woman. The interesting thing about this siting, if it is true, is that it is near the location Cindy & KC did the switcharoo the day she was arrested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 06:32:11 PM
Destiny:

http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/x.php

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/kobi.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
Des,

  maybe we should look at old NG transcripts before he signed on with the defense.  He seemed to allude to the idea that Casey was guilty back then. 

Jen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 06:33:32 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
Is this a different story because I thought it was a lady that reported it and I thought Casey had on a ball cap???

This was a MALE witness, he was shown, and I'm sure he said large straw hat. Even to the extreme that something happened and the shovel hit the hat and moved it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 16, 2008, 06:33:53 PM
Quote
I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.

Great posts are never too long Luckycharmsprincess!  Thanks for some insight into Casey's personality!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 06:33:53 PM
0T..
kevin coe is about to learn his verdict... any moment now..at 1:30 spokane time!
Verdict due at 1:30 p.m.
Rick Bonino and Karen Dorn Steele
Staff writers
October 16, 2008


Video: Streaming live from the courtroom (Windows only) | Coe takes the stand | More video from KHQ

 
Kevin Coe is about to learn his fate.

A verdict is due at 1:30 p.m. today in the Kevin Coe civil commitment trial. The jury has concluded deliberations on whether Coe, 61, should be committed to a mental facility as a sexual predator, or whether he should be released after spending 25 years in prison for the 1980 rape of a woman in Spokane.

If the jury decides Kevin Coe should not be committed as a sexually violent predator, he says he’d leave Spokane as soon as possible.


I hope he stays in prison....I do not believe rapists, sexual predatators and pedophiles should ever be allowed to walk the streets after  they have been found guilty.....I don't know the statistics of repeat offenders but I do know they are high.....


actually , my bad,,, they will keep him in a MENTAL hospitol for the rest of his life..


works for me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 06:33:56 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 06:35:26 PM
Ill go back and look at pictures.  Wonder who the well dressed man was???  Have you ever seen Lee wear anything other than shorts??  Baez maybe???Strike that, I don't want to get sued.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OriginalKat on October 16, 2008, 06:35:37 PM
"I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail."

Sorry I forgot to copy and paste who wrote that but I have a question about the missing blackjack.
Couldn't LE find any cell number on a person...say...Lee or Casey, etc if it were different from the one she had and get those records? She lies so much I don't think she moved her sim card from one to the other like she said she did if even another phone does exist.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 06:36:24 PM
0T..
kevin coe is about to learn his verdict... any moment now..at 1:30 spokane time!
Verdict due at 1:30 p.m.
Rick Bonino and Karen Dorn Steele
Staff writers
October 16, 2008


Video: Streaming live from the courtroom (Windows only) | Coe takes the stand | More video from KHQ

 
Kevin Coe is about to learn his fate.

A verdict is due at 1:30 p.m. today in the Kevin Coe civil commitment trial. The jury has concluded deliberations on whether Coe, 61, should be committed to a mental facility as a sexual predator, or whether he should be released after spending 25 years in prison for the 1980 rape of a woman in Spokane.

If the jury decides Kevin Coe should not be committed as a sexually violent predator, he says he’d leave Spokane as soon as possible.


I hope he stays in prison....I do not believe rapists, sexual predatators and pedophiles should ever be allowed to walk the streets after  they have been found guilty.....I don't know the statistics of repeat offenders but I do know they are high.....


actually , my bad,,, they will keep him in a MENTAL hospitol for the rest of his life..


works for me...


"SPOKANE, Wash. —
A jury in Spokane has decided that Kevin Coe should be locked up at the Special Commitment Center for sex predators on McNeil Island.

The decision Thursday afternoon will keep Coe confined although he has completed a 25-year sentence in the South Hill Rapist case.

Coe showed no emotion as the verdict was read. The case went to the jury Wednesday afternoon.

In closing arguments Wednesday, Assistant Attorney General Malcolm Ross called Coe a "perfect predator" who should remain locked up indefinitely"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 16, 2008, 06:37:09 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



Did he ever sell out! I used to have so much respect for him!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 06:37:15 PM
Here's the link:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 06:37:44 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


Hey Des -- I am new here but wanted to help out -- I looked him up earlier today.  It seems he has published several books (author or co-author)
DNA: Forensic and Legal Applications (copyright 2004)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2007)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006)
Inside Forensic Science Set (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006 -- authored alone)
Forensic Chemistry Handbook (copyright 2007)

Here is something I found in expert witness database
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky , John Jay College of Criminal Justice
899 10th Ave.New York, NY 10019
Profile:
Consultant to attorneys in the areas of forensic biology, serology and DNA analysis for more than 20 years.
Years as Expert: 20
Primary Area of Expertise: DNA

He recently testified in the Nixzmary trial in NY (http://wcbstv.com/local/nixzmary.brown.nixzaly.2.655469.html and http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16nixzmary.html)
I can keep going if you want me to.

I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?

Everything!   He's going to try a rip *our* key witness apart.....Des




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:37:49 PM
On the John J. school website, they have a directory listing... I posted the link instead of his number, hope that's ok... I'm still a newbie and I don't want any red buttons in my future! 
Besides, I doubt he would return a phone call from the other side, but it might help...
http://doit.jjay.cuny.edu/intranet/intradir/whole.asp

LOL...he'll return a call from me....Des ;-)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Stacey on October 16, 2008, 06:38:43 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des



When this case first started he was on NG all the time and he agreed with NG and expland what the test and evedice was and it seemed like it was bad for Casey.
Then when he got on the defence team he started changing his tone. Making it sound like what they had was really no big deal and he could explain it away.
I think they will show the tapes of him on NG first to last to see how he changed his tone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 06:39:41 PM
Des,

  maybe we should look at old NG transcripts before he signed on with the defense.  He seemed to allude to the idea that Casey was guilty back then. 

Jen
Yes.. Wouldn't it be funny if his earlier statements on the body farm were used against him at trial..lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 16, 2008, 06:39:44 PM
Evening monkeys! Any new and interestig news to report? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 06:40:01 PM
Destiny:

http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/x.php

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/kobi.jpg)

http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~science/kobilinsky.htm

Lawrence Kobilinsky
Ph.D. – City University Graduate Center
Professor of Biology and Immunology
Associate Provost John Jay College
(212) 237-8884

My research interests concern the use of state-of-the-art technology to identify individuals from physiological fluids and tissues, and to associate biological crime scene evidence with a suspect. Forensic DNA analysis has been termed a revolutionary technique which resulted from the ground-breaking work of Drs. Kary Mullis and Alec Jeffries. The technology has evolved ever since.

The late 80’s saw the adoption of RFLP (DNA Fingerprinting) methods by a number of public and private laboratories. The FBI and other Federal, State and County laboratories became keenly interested in the promise of this technology. There was a clear transition from protein analysis to nucleotide analysis, the latter being far superior because of a greater degree of polymorphism that exists at various genetic loci within the genome. During the early 90's, the expensive and time consuming RFLP procedure has been supplanted by the use of analyses of evidence that had been amplified by the Polymerase Chain Reaction technology to generate large quantities of genetic material from, often, miniscule amounts of evidence found at crime scenes. The amplified DNA can then be tested using a variety of different methods such as reverse dot blot procedures, gel or capillary electrophoresis.

Currently, my research is focused on single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) detection and on sequencing technology. Although SNP analysis is not yet performed by forensic laboratories, it is in many ways far superior to the current widely used PCR-STR analysis. The forensic biology laboratory at John Jay boasts all the necessary equipment to perform all types of forensic DNA analysis. This equipment includes ABI-Prism sequencers (310 and 377), the latter being a gel electrophoresis instrument and the former being a capillary electrophoresis instrument. It also includes an ABI Taqman for real time PCR studies as well as SNP detection. SNP detection is also accomplished with a Transgenomic Wave instrument. The laboratory is also equipped with an Agilent system which features the latest chip technology for human identification. The Lab on a Chip uses micro-capillary electrophoresis followed by gene scanning to accomplish identification.
 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 06:40:23 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


Hey Des -- I am new here but wanted to help out -- I looked him up earlier today.  It seems he has published several books (author or co-author)
DNA: Forensic and Legal Applications (copyright 2004)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2007)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006)
Inside Forensic Science Set (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006 -- authored alone)
Forensic Chemistry Handbook (copyright 2007)

Here is something I found in expert witness database
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky , John Jay College of Criminal Justice
899 10th Ave.New York, NY 10019
Profile:
Consultant to attorneys in the areas of forensic biology, serology and DNA analysis for more than 20 years.
Years as Expert: 20
Primary Area of Expertise: DNA

He recently testified in the Nixzmary trial in NY (http://wcbstv.com/local/nixzmary.brown.nixzaly.2.655469.html and http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16nixzmary.html)
I can keep going if you want me to.

I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?

Everything!   He's going to try a rip *our* key witness apart.....Des


I messed that quote up. I am sorry -- Des, my response is in the middle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 06:41:18 PM
Hello Monkeys...had a very exiting day, hetting ready to go out to dinner right now and will back in a few hours....Is Baez crazy or what.......the new witness I just heard about...gonna ask about him tonight as soon as we set down to eat.........got a little info for everyone and will tell later tonight when time allows........talk top everybody in a few hours.........gotta finish getting ready now.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 16, 2008, 06:42:55 PM
Hello Monkeys...had a very exiting day, hetting ready to go out to dinner right now and will back in a few hours....Is Baez crazy or what.......the new witness I just heard about...gonna ask about him tonight as soon as we set down to eat.........got a little info for everyone and will tell later tonight when time allows........talk top everybody in a few hours.........gotta finish getting ready now.............

Oooo. Can't wait! Enjoy your dinner, and get back here. LOL - j/k take your time. See you soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 06:43:00 PM
Interesting about the Crane's Landing.. and how Casey and Tony went there to check out an apartment.  Tony was looking for a place.. did Casey suggest this complex to him?
<Snip>June16- 19 Casey introduces Tony Lazzaro to Matthew Crisp. Tony wants to rent from Crisp and get out of his current lease. Caylee was not with them, Casey was in good spirits. So Casey was looking for apartments for Tony? .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 06:43:13 PM
On the John J. school website, they have a directory listing... I posted the link instead of his number, hope that's ok... I'm still a newbie and I don't want any red buttons in my future! 
Besides, I doubt he would return a phone call from the other side, but it might help...
http://doit.jjay.cuny.edu/intranet/intradir/whole.asp

LOL...he'll return a call from me....Des ;-)


Awesome. You rock! I should've known... I may be new, but I did notice your gift with the phone calls! Keep up the great work!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 06:43:32 PM
Hello Monkeys...had a very exiting day, hetting ready to go out to dinner right now and will back in a few hours....Is Baez crazy or what.......the new witness I just heard about...gonna ask about him tonight as soon as we set down to eat.........got a little info for everyone and will tell later tonight when time allows........talk top everybody in a few hours.........gotta finish getting ready now.............

Cool!  Have a nice dinner!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 16, 2008, 06:43:58 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
He also said the man on the cell phone was well dressed, fishing and out of place in the woods. One of the the other most important things he said was the woman came back to the car with a shovel AND a bag. She nearly hit her head on the open trunk while she was trying to place the bag in the trunk. The man did not wait until today to report it. He states he had previously made calls into the 'tipline' and never heard back.
Interestingly enough the newscaster also says the woman who saw a white Ponitiac parked on the median and spotted a woman wearing a ball cap coming out of the woods (with a shovel?) was in the same area.
Hmm, so the woman saw her coming out after burying something.  This man saw her come out with a shovel AND a bag that she then inserted in the trunk. So possible witnesses to the burial, then removal to be taken to a new site?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 06:44:50 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........

Thank you for this, I'm going to go find it on the map.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 06:45:12 PM
I just found this site on mishap.  Has a lot of detail on this site - On Casey and many other Cases " current" etc...

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/CayleeAnthony/tabid/810/Default.aspx

Snipped from Oct 14 2008

The Grand Jury, Of Orange county, Florida, handed down a 7 count indictment against Casey Anthony, today. The Grand Jury declared that between June 15th and July 16th, 2008, Anthony premeditated the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony. This is First Degree Capital Murder which means Anthony may be eligible for the death penalty.

Anthony's second (2) count was for Aggravated Child Abuse, causing great bodily harm, permanent disfigurement or permanent disability to Caylee, or intentionally committing an act or actively encouraging another person to commit an act which could result in physical injury to her.

Count three (3) is for Aggravated Manslaughter of a child. It states that the Grand Jury believes that Casey failed to provide Caylee with the care, supervision and services necessary to maintain Caylee's physical and mental health, or failed to make a reasonable effort to protect her from abuse, neglect or exploitation by another person, and in doing so caused the death of her daughter.

The next four indictments had to do with Anthony misleading and lying to the investigator, Yuri Melich. These counts are all titled 'Providing False Information to a Law Enforcement Officer'.

The fourth count (4) states that Anthony intended to mislead Melich by telling him she was employed at Universal Studios Orlando during the year 2008.

Count five (5)is for misleading and impeding Melich's investigation by lying and telling him that she left Caylee at the Sawgrass Apartments with Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez on June 9, 2008.

The next count (6) is for the lie Anthony told Melich when she said she had told Jeffrey Michael Hopkins and Juliette Lewis, former Universal Studios Orlando employees, about Caylee's disappearance, thus impeding his investigation.

The final (7) count was for lying to Melich about Casey getting a phone call from Caylee on July 15th. (NLH)

----------------

Motion Hearing Results

Judge Strickland granted the following eight motions: Demand For Discovery And Inspection Relating to Digital Forensic Evidence, Motion To Inspect, Test And Photograph Evidence Held By The State Of Florida, Motion To Compel Department Of Children And Family Records, Demand For Discovery And Inspection Relating To Polygraphs, Motion To Compel Flight Manifest, Motion To Compel Results Of Forensic Testing, and Motion To Compel For Evidence Related To Any Zenaida Gonzalez.

The judge tabled the following three motions and said he would not rule before Monday: Motion To Preserve Forensic Evidence, Motion For Allowing Defendant To Travel To Places Of Interest and Motion To Seal.

-------------

snipped from her original arrest

Casey Anthony was arrested Wednesday on charges of child neglect and providing false information to law enforcement. She showed no emotion Thursday as she was ordered held without bond at the Orange County Jail.

The judge scolded the mother, saying she had "no regret or concern for her actions."

"You left your 2-year-old child with a person who does not exist at an apartment you cannot identify and you lied to your parents about your child's whereabouts," Judge John Jordan said. "You cared so little about your child."

He ordered a mental health evaluation be done on Anthony.

____________________


Lots of detailed info on this site  Link http://www.jurorthirteen.com/CayleeAnthony/tabid/810/Default.aspx




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 06:45:49 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
Is this a different story because I thought it was a lady that reported it and I thought Casey had on a ball cap???

It was a woman. The interesting thing about this siting, if it is true, is that it is near the location Cindy & KC did the switcharoo the day she was arrested.


Dang!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:46:43 PM
Des,

  maybe we should look at old NG transcripts before he signed on with the defense.  He seemed to allude to the idea that Casey was guilty back then. 

Jen

YES...he did...hope those words come back to bite him in the AZZ....need to find those words....NG got totally fed up with him last night....Des...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 16, 2008, 06:47:08 PM
Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........

Thank you for this, I'm going to go find it on the map.

Humm. Straw hat vs. ball cap...not sure, could be, I guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 16, 2008, 06:47:21 PM
Lawrence Kobilinsky is the Associate Provost of the Interdisciplinary Forensics Science Department at John Jay College...
Source: MORRIS MEISTER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE LECTURE SERIES [www.bxscience.edu
Is it Kobilinsky or Koblinsky?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:48:07 PM
Destiny:

http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/x.php

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/kobi.jpg)

TY....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 16, 2008, 06:48:23 PM
Des,

  maybe we should look at old NG transcripts before he signed on with the defense.  He seemed to allude to the idea that Casey was guilty back then. 

Jen

YES...he did...hope those words come back to bite him in the AZZ....need to find those words....NG got totally fed up with him last night....Des...



Yes, I hope he doesn't appear on her show again until after this case. I was really upset with his hemming and hawing and not answering the questions, etc. Kobe! What happened to you? Are you in desperate need of money or something? Seriously!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: DayOldDonuts on October 16, 2008, 06:52:10 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 06:52:30 PM
here's a link for all NG transcripts.  I'm going back to look at them individually.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 06:53:16 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

May I get some help in putting together a cliff notes history of Dr. Lawrence kobelinski....this info is for a *key* witness in the Casy Anthony case....I spoke with this person at length today....I said maybe we could help them with info....they asked me about him!.....remember Kobelinksi now works for Baez and the Anthonys'.....he sold out!....TIA....Des


Hey Des -- I am new here but wanted to help out -- I looked him up earlier today.  It seems he has published several books (author or co-author)
DNA: Forensic and Legal Applications (copyright 2004)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2007)
Forensic DNA Analysis (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006)
Inside Forensic Science Set (Inside Forensic Science) (copyright 2006 -- authored alone)
Forensic Chemistry Handbook (copyright 2007)

Here is something I found in expert witness database
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky , John Jay College of Criminal Justice
899 10th Ave.New York, NY 10019
Profile:
Consultant to attorneys in the areas of forensic biology, serology and DNA analysis for more than 20 years.
Years as Expert: 20
Primary Area of Expertise: DNA

He recently testified in the Nixzmary trial in NY (http://wcbstv.com/local/nixzmary.brown.nixzaly.2.655469.html and http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16nixzmary.html)
I can keep going if you want me to.

I know this Dr. Lawrence kobelinski has done alot of testifying on dna evidence on court tv..He seems to be involved in just about every case i ever watched...What exactly do you want to know about him Des?

Everything!   He's going to try a rip *our* key witness apart.....Des




Somewhere...there is a *lot* of Money riding on this case.....it should be all about Caylee...but it's not....I've tried to call LG 3 times today....bet his happy AZZ...is in the middle of the *mix*...Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 06:54:46 PM
Crud, I could have sworn I saw a picture of Casey wearing a straw hat- where is Blonde???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
Des,

  maybe we should look at old NG transcripts before he signed on with the defense.  He seemed to allude to the idea that Casey was guilty back then. 

Jen

YES...he did...hope those words come back to bite him in the AZZ....need to find those words....NG got totally fed up with him last night....Des...



Yes, I hope he doesn't appear on her show again until after this case. I was really upset with his hemming and hawing and not answering the questions, etc. Kobe! What happened to you? Are you in desperate need of money or something? Seriously!

I just found one more recent article -- Epistemics for Forensics, (authors Roger G. Koppl Robert Kurzban and Lawrence Kobilinsky (copyright June 2008) (seems to talks about mistakes in forensic analysis)

Hey -- he is teaching a course on defense of a violent felony TOMORROW  http://www.nysacdl.org/index.php?doc_id=350


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:58:49 PM
"I posted yesterday that Casey NEVER called Lee between June 15 - July 3rd. The first call between them was July 4th.
INTERESTING - Could it be that the "missing blackjack" lost in JBP is/was lost on purpose because it ties the two together?????? Could it be that is why in their little code talk, she let him to where to find it so he could destroy the trail of their talks?????????
When something stinks - follow the trail."

Sorry I forgot to copy and paste who wrote that but I have a question about the missing blackjack.
Couldn't LE find any cell number on a person...say...Lee or Casey, etc if it were different from the one she had and get those records? She lies so much I don't think she moved her sim card from one to the other like she said she did if even another phone does exist.

Actually, you got two posters words up there.  The second part was me.  You will be seeing soon (take it you are behind on reading) that I speculated on LA and KA each having a disposable cell phone.  If LE can find proof of such a purchase (even for one of the disposable phones) then yes, they could get the records.  I think the whole sim card bs was possible Casey's way of saying what was on her disposable phone and possibly when she told lee her "blackjack" fell outta her pocket - she meant I left my disposable there or go get it and destroy it.  If her and Lee were trying to cover something up, disposable phones and leaving them off their person (esp. Casey) would make since.  Thus, the "code" talking but the need for Lee to know what to do to cover tracks.            ......just a theory in progress......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 16, 2008, 06:59:08 PM
oops...forgot the link....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????

We still need to know what was  purchased a JCP!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:00:50 PM


Just watched WFTV news at 6..............here's a brief summary of the "kc w/shovel" report from the alleged eyewitness.

He reported seeing a white pontiac with a black bra parked in a desolate area behind the airport (off Boggy Creek) and kc, wearing a large straw hat w/ red sunglasses emerging from the woods carrying a shovel. He did not specify the date or time of day. He also stated a "well dressed man was seen on a cell phone acting as "look out". He claims to be so sure of what he saw, that if LE did not follow up, he would form his own search party of the area.

My questions are: Where have you been for the last 3 months? Whats with the straw hat and red sunglasses? Has anyone heard of these? Date? Time of day? and so on.........
He also said the man on the cell phone was well dressed, fishing and out of place in the woods. One of the the other most important things he said was the woman came back to the car with a shovel AND a bag. She nearly hit her head on the open trunk while she was trying to place the bag in the trunk. The man did not wait until today to report it. He states he had previously made calls into the 'tipline' and never heard back.
Interestingly enough the newscaster also says the woman who saw a white Ponitiac parked on the median and spotted a woman wearing a ball cap coming out of the woods (with a shovel?) was in the same area.
Hmm, so the woman saw her coming out after burying something.  This man saw her come out with a shovel AND a bag that she then inserted in the trunk. So possible witnesses to the burial, then removal to be taken to a new site?

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 07:00:52 PM
speaking of NG and We all agree she has treated Tim Miller with lack of respect

She Has Changed in the last few weeks - Her demeanor, her tone in her voice
I wonder if she got a big fat promotion due to her Ratings ` I am sure they have Soared since Caylee's been missing.

She NG is almost out of control - even more so than she ever was before.
I feel that this personality Enhancement of being so BOLD, Snapping at Every One while they are trying to answer her ........ is making me not want to watch. I can not concentrate on what is being said, because NG is acting like she is on a power trip. So I have to watch her a 8pm - get through her personality " its my buffer show" then watch again at 10pm so I can absorb what has been said.

Maybe Kobe's diaper is full after she asks him the First Question of the night ...and he gets flustered and can't concentrate either and goes off on another direction....  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sometimes Her personality Whip is just not necessary when trying to information out of others ... Lordy



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:01:16 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????

We still need to know what was  purchased a JCP!
Yep


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:02:33 PM
oops...forgot the link....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html


LOL...Thanks....I forget my own head sometimes....Dont Ya just love this forum...Des...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 16, 2008, 07:02:51 PM
I have really been haunted by the possibility of Caylee being moved more than 2 times, and that her remains may be in more than one area.  As for the latest witnesses, who within Casey's circle would be in a suit at that time of day?  I can't remember who worked where, anyone who worked in a profession or going to some kind of school that would require that kind of attire?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 07:03:59 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 16, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
Lawrence Kobilinsky is the Associate Provost of the Interdisciplinary Forensics Science Department at John Jay College...
Source: MORRIS MEISTER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE LECTURE SERIES [www.bxscience.edu
Is it Kobilinsky or Koblinsky?
OR Kobelinsky? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:05:21 PM
MrsKub....I know you are juggling 8 plates at once...and getting ready for a much needed break....but....whine....whine....beg....beg....I NEED YOUR EXPERTICE AND HELP!!!!!!!!.....pweeeeeze...Des....:-(



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 16, 2008, 07:05:58 PM
I have really been haunted by the possibility of Caylee being moved more than 2 times, and that her remains may be in more than one area.  As for the latest witnesses, who within Casey's circle would be in a suit at that time of day?  I can't remember who worked where, anyone who worked in a profession or going to some kind of school that would require that kind of attire?
I agree. That would explain the two spottings at the airport. One in a straw hat the other in a baseball cap. One with Lee on guard the other alone when she went to check the crime scene one more time, maybe to say a final prayer.

another thought... LP described Lee Vista Blvd as the place of interest. Is this where the witnesses spotted the white car and Casey in the woods?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 07:06:09 PM
IIRC, someone posted earlier today that the switcharoo location was picked by KC so she could show Cindy where the body is or something to this effect. Who posted it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:07:03 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.


I believed you JR.  I knew you were reporting what you saw on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:07:08 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.

Not me, I believe you, I was just trying to figure out if there were 2 differnet sightings - friends??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 16, 2008, 07:07:11 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
Hi Donut
That info where George is saying he followed Casey in Cindy's truck is in the George recorded interview from the first document dump I think.George describes exactly the direction he was driving in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:07:43 PM
I have really been haunted by the possibility of Caylee being moved more than 2 times, and that her remains may be in more than one area.  As for the latest witnesses, who within Casey's circle would be in a suit at that time of day?  I can't remember who worked where, anyone who worked in a profession or going to some kind of school that would require that kind of attire?

So have I, akmom. I hate even thinking about it, much less putting it out there but alot of the comments coming from LE, LP, etc. makes it sound as if that may be so. Caylee may be in more than one place!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 07:07:52 PM
Got it Des...
GRACE: Joining me right now is a highly renowned forensic scientist. Lawrence Kobilinsky joining us out of our New York studios. Dr. Koby, thank you for being with us. Koby, explain to me the artificial nose and how air samples can now be used as evidence.

LARRY KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Sure, Nancy. Well, what happens when a body decomposes is that there is metabolism, a breakdown of existing substances -- fat, protein -- and many volatile substances are created. Putrecine (ph), cadaverine, methanol, carbon dioxide hydrogen sulfide, 450 different compounds have been found in a decomposing body. Well, all you need to do is sample the air. We have instrumental analysis, referred to as gas chromatography/mass spectometry (ph), as well as high performance liquid chromatography -- fancy names. But essentially, we can detect all of these components in the gas.

And there are libraries that are digitized in a reference library in the instrument, and these things can be identified. And so this is a reliable way of determining if there is decomposition. Bill Bess (ph) was responsible for creating "the body farm," and crime people, criminalists, go there to study these kinds of things. He`s probably got one of the few labs in the United States that does this kind of work. Normally, it`s done on fish and other decaying substances. The Department of Agriculture is interested in this kind of procedure. But on human decomposition, this is a rare kind of procedure, but it`s a valid one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 07:07:58 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.


Jr, not to worry. I am new here as well and sometimes the "regulars" seem to take over with their line of thinking/posting. I can assure you it is not personal. JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????

We still need to know what was  purchased a JCP!

You know - I am actually amazed that someone who works for JCP has not looked yet!  *not that I advocate breaking the rules and leaking the info to destiny or Klass*  but - with all the attention, it does make me go hummmmmmmmm.

KLASS -  I am gonna jump in on the search for info for KOBE when my back lets up.  However, could we place all the posts in one folder so we don't repeat???????  I know it would make it easier to see what is already there, for me anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jr on October 16, 2008, 07:09:03 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.

Not me, I believe you, I was just trying to figure out if there were 2 differnet sightings - friends??????

Yes, friends. Also, thank you, Klass


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:09:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html

Mysterious PR Man Backtracks On Comment That Caylee Anthony Is Dead

POSTED: 6:31 am EDT October 16, 2008
UPDATED: 6:22 pm EDT October 16, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team is backtracking after they finally admitted, on national TV, that Casey's daughter Caylee is dead.



"This is a very serious case, involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony," Todd Black said on CNN Wednesday night (Hear It All).

Black is Casey's attorney's spokesman. Not only is he trying to take back his words, so is the attorney and Casey's family.

Todd Black, the spokesperson for Casey Anthony's legal team, admitted on national television late Wednesday that Caylee Anthony is dead. Eyewitness News reached Black by phone Thursday and he denied that is what he meant. He insisted the Baez legal team is confident Caylee is just missing and Casey had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"I did not say that on national television. I responded to what someone else said," Black told Eyewitness News (full interview).

He scrambled for more than five minutes during the call, coming up with different excuses and explanations about what he meant by the comment. But, the bottom line is, he admitted what investigators have long said.

George Anthony brushed it off Thursday morning before he hit the road to drive around the billboard with his granddaughter's picture on it, because he still believes she's alive.

"I don't know why someone would say something like that when everything is circumstantial," George said.

A spokesperson for George and Cindy Anthony called the statement made by Todd Black, someone who's supposed to be on Casey's side, inappropriate.

"If he said something like that and that's what he meant then he shouldn't be representing, working for, Jose Baez because that's an inappropriate statement," said Larry Garrison, Anthony family spokesperson.

The family told Eyewitness News they are even setting up a new tip line that should be ready by Thursday night or Friday. Volunteers from all over the country will help.


WHO IS TODD BLACK?

Eyewitness News has been doing some digging to try to find out exactly who Todd Black is, but he doesn't have a professional track record or paper trail. He works for Press Corps Media. The company claims to have more than 200 employees and an $11 million profit margin, but Press Corps Media doesn't even have a website.

Todd Black has never appeared on camera, only doing interviews over the phone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????

We still need to know what was  purchased a JCP!

Gimme the phone #'s of the *local* to the area JCPennys'....I'll try...Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 16, 2008, 07:11:55 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
Hi Donut
That info where George is saying he followed Casey in Cindy's truck is in the George recorded interview from the first document dump I think.George describes exactly the direction he was driving in.
Econlockhatchee Trail is "close to home" as Casey described. And the place LP described on NG a week or so ago. Also looks like Red's photos. And is on this map above. I'm sticking with that location.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 07:12:06 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.

Junior - given I am up near Cincinnati - I totally appreciate the local scoop.  Don't feel offended if Monkeys dissect what you say, that is what makes us good Monkeys!  Sometimes our strengths are our greatest weakness!  Take it as a compliment!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:12:55 PM
Went back and looked at pictures - black, brown, white, pink glasses - no red - but it seems like I remember seeing a picture of Casey in big hat - anyone?????

We still need to know what was  purchased a JCP!

Gimme the phone #'s of the *local* to the area JCPennys'....I'll try...Des



Hang on I'll look them up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:13:44 PM
I think well dressed man in Florida could be nice knit shirt and slacks - not necessary a suit.   Don't you think???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 07:15:18 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...
Thanks I hadn't heard anything either.

No word on that yet. I also have 10 other cases of human remains found around Florida since june 25th that I am waiting on some word/more info.
Thank you Nut. I can't imagine having that many body parts just lying around and nobody knows or cares who they belong to. I saw a story on America's Most Wanted about a bunch of men's bones buth they have only identified two of the guys. That is just too sad that nobody knows who they are. JMO Thanks again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:15:31 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PookyBear on October 16, 2008, 07:15:37 PM
Des:  Forensic Anthropology written by Bradley Adams was edited by Lawrence Kobilinsky.  In the summary of the book it says:  Among his more intriguing characters is William M. Bass, a pioneer in the field, whose "Body Farm," (a.k.a. Anthropological Research Facility) at the University of Tennessee serves as a major training center for forensic anthropologists.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.

Not me, I believe you, I was just trying to figure out if there were 2 differnet sightings - friends??????

Yes, friends. Also, thank you, Klass

Just catching up here....jr.....I believe you and appreciate that you do report to us who cannot hear or see your local news...
If I haven't said it to you already Welcome to the cage~! And if I have already said it, well, just saying it again!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:17:27 PM
all 407   896 1006 Colonial dr Fashion Sq
851 5200 Florida Mall
292 9915 colonial dr  west oaks
332 9600 altamonte
847 5922 kissimmee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 07:18:03 PM
I think well dressed man in Florida could be nice knit shirt and slacks - not necessary a suit.   Don't you think???

I would say it is all relative....just depends on what the witness considers well dressed....could be a polo shirt and khaki's or jeans for that matter...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 07:18:16 PM
Crud, I could have sworn I saw a picture of Casey wearing a straw hat- where is Blonde???
I'm looking now in my pictures


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:19:07 PM
FYI - anyone can start a new thread, you don't have to ask.  So if someone wants to start a thread for Dr. Kobilinsky they can.  I don't mind doing it but I'm not always around. 

I'm curious about Kobilinsky but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee missing if you understand what I mean.  We can start a thread but what is it really going to do for us? 

Whenever there are cases like this where DNA evidence is involved the prosecution and defense both have their "experts".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 16, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.

I appreciated your report and the link, just so you know! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
Crud, I could have sworn I saw a picture of Casey wearing a straw hat- where is Blonde???
I'm looking now in my pictures
Thanks Blonde, you always come thru for me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 07:19:42 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
As far as George stating a time that she took CA's car - it was during his police interview - he said it was either the week of the 24th or the 15th but that it was done around 5:00 - 6:00 pm - she was on the 408 and she either got off at Hiawassee or Kirkland - one of the two but he lost her.


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:20:27 PM
Got it Des...
GRACE: Joining me right now is a highly renowned forensic scientist. Lawrence Kobilinsky joining us out of our New York studios. Dr. Koby, thank you for being with us. Koby, explain to me the artificial nose and how air samples can now be used as evidence.

LARRY KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Sure, Nancy. Well, what happens when a body decomposes is that there is metabolism, a breakdown of existing substances -- fat, protein -- and many volatile substances are created. Putrecine (ph), cadaverine, methanol, carbon dioxide hydrogen sulfide, 450 different compounds have been found in a decomposing body. Well, all you need to do is sample the air. We have instrumental analysis, referred to as gas chromatography/mass spectometry (ph), as well as high performance liquid chromatography -- fancy names. But essentially, we can detect all of these components in the gas.

And there are libraries that are digitized in a reference library in the instrument, and these things can be identified. And so this is a reliable way of determining if there is decomposition. Bill Bess (ph) was responsible for creating "the body farm," and crime people, criminalists, go there to study these kinds of things. He`s probably got one of the few labs in the United States that does this kind of work. Normally, it`s done on fish and other decaying substances. The Department of Agriculture is interested in this kind of procedure. But on human decomposition, this is a rare kind of procedure, but it`s a valid one.


MRSROCK.....YOU ROCK!!!!!!   TY...Des....hugs...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.

I found this on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TQ8CTEEOC43TLA6HN/p89

    picture this wrote:
    <quoted text>Todd Black is a P.R. hack that is with Press Corps Media and hired by Baez. He is affiliated with a company called Arrested Media. A main principal of Arrested Media is Gil Cabot.Cabot claims he was wrongly convicted of crimes by the corrupt media. Cabot has administered a company that specialized in buying "true story" properties and packaging licenseing agreements for books, t.v., etc.He is also a producer. They are all in it for the money! The family is now shopping interviews, through their reps, to the media outlets to the highest bidder.They all make me want to puke. Caylee is now lost in the glory of the big buck. So realy, realy sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 07:21:05 PM
Des - do you have his CV yet?  Here is a link.
http://alpha.fdu.edu/~koppl/vita.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 07:21:36 PM
all 407   896 1006 Colonial dr Fashion Sq
851 5200 Florida Mall
292 9915 colonial dr  west oaks
332 9600 altamonte
847 5922 kissimmee

when you call they are going to ask to you What Dept you want to speak to  -
I would just ask for Security and and be really nice :)  Security knows everything wink wink
& if you get the right person they might share ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
FYI - anyone can start a new thread, you don't have to ask.  So if someone wants to start a thread for Dr. Kobilinsky they can.  I don't mind doing it but I'm not always around. 

I'm curious about Kobilinsky but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee missing if you understand what I mean.  We can start a thread but what is it really going to do for us? 

Whenever there are cases like this where DNA evidence is involved the prosecution and defense both have their "experts".

I agree with you Klaas....this will all come out in the trial anyway....Thanks to ALL the Monkeys that provided info for me to pass on....I'll let you know if any of you would like to be contacted by the BF...or ORNL....Des



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 07:25:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html


Todd Black has never appeared on camera, only doing interviews over the phone.[/b][/i]

Maybe he's the well dress man fishing on the bridge! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 16, 2008, 07:25:15 PM
What is the grate in Red's pictures?  Is it a drainage area?  Is this something that is common to the area?  How deep is the water in these?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SweetMorgan on October 16, 2008, 07:28:02 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments
::MonkeyRoll::I would be interested to know if, when Casey met with Crisp about the apartment at Cranes Landing for her and Tony, a guest card was completed and whether Caylee’s name appeared on it as a possible occupant.
(If this has been discussed previously, I apologize for being redundant, I am trying to catch up.)

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6/19   
Thurs          Casey calls Matthew Allen Crisp to ask about leasing an apartment at Cranes Landing Apartments for Lazaro. Crisp meets with Casey and Anthony that day, but no action was ever taken. (According to statement by Matthew Allen Crisp)



Mattew Crisp INTERVIEW 07/17/08 (Casey told him at Subway 07/07/08 Caylee in Sanford, FL)

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_M_Crisp071708.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.

I found this on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TQ8CTEEOC43TLA6HN/p89

    picture this wrote:
    <quoted text>Todd Black is a P.R. hack that is with Press Corps Media and hired by Baez. He is affiliated with a company called Arrested Media. A main principal of Arrested Media is Gil Cabot.Cabot claims he was wrongly convicted of crimes by the corrupt media. Cabot has administered a company that specialized in buying "true story" properties and packaging licenseing agreements for books, t.v., etc.He is also a producer. They are all in it for the money! The family is now shopping interviews, through their reps, to the media outlets to the highest bidder.They all make me want to puke. Caylee is now lost in the glory of the big buck. So realy, realy sad.


producer or not... he's not very good at PR... remember all the grammatical errors in his first press release?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 07:29:52 PM
DES!!!

[bGRACE: Back to famed forensic scientist Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky, a member of the Casey Anthony defense team. Koby, you mentioned physical evidence accumulating. What physical evidence?

KOBILINSKY: Well, we continuously are hearing about hair in the trunk. We know that there has been air sampling tested by the University of Tennessee, the "body farm," indicating that there may be chemicals indicating decomposition. I think the presence of hair -- again, we keep hearing about a banding pattern.

Again, no official reports that I`ve seen, but this kind of evidence is certainly serious and challenging, and it could be interpreted as decomposition of a body. And so I think that this would support the allegations that we keep hearing about.
][/b]

Wonder if he is gonna support it when he finally see's it???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Buckeye on October 16, 2008, 07:30:14 PM
I am a local (Orlando) person and I only "report" what I see on local news as a courtesy to those of you outside of the area. I am rather disappointed in the fact that what I reported having heard on the news has been disputed and twisted until I post a link. I realize I am new and unknown to all of you. That does not mean I am passing off rumors or untruths. I only report what I see on TV.


Don't take it personal.  It is much easier to record, tract and reevaluate statements with links.  It doesn't mean you are not accurate or your info not important.  We have just learned, from experience, to be able to site the source when collecting info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SweetMorgan on October 16, 2008, 07:30:17 PM
what is the name of the apt complex that Tony and Casey looked at to rent? anyone remember?

Crane's Landing apartments
::MonkeyRoll::I would be interested to know if, when Casey met with Crisp about the apartment at Cranes Landing for her and Tony, a guest card was completed and whether Caylee’s name appeared on it as a possible occupant.
(If this has been discussed previously, I apologize for being redundant, I am trying to catch up.)

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6/19   
Thurs          Casey calls Matthew Allen Crisp to ask about leasing an apartment at Cranes Landing Apartments for Lazaro. Crisp meets with Casey and Anthony that day, but no action was ever taken. (According to statement by Matthew Allen Crisp)



Mattew Crisp INTERVIEW 07/17/08 (Casey told him at Subway 07/07/08 Caylee in Sanford, FL)

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_M_Crisp071708.htm
I would be interested to know if, when Casey met with Crisp about the apartment at Cranes Landing for her and Tony, a guest card was completed and whether Caylee’s name appeared on it as a possible occupant.
(If this has been discussed previously, I apologize being redundant)
I tried to post this a moment ago but it didn't go through


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:30:43 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.

I found this on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TQ8CTEEOC43TLA6HN/p89

    picture this wrote:
    <quoted text>Todd Black is a P.R. hack that is with Press Corps Media and hired by Baez. He is affiliated with a company called Arrested Media. A main principal of Arrested Media is Gil Cabot.Cabot claims he was wrongly convicted of crimes by the corrupt media. Cabot has administered a company that specialized in buying "true story" properties and packaging licenseing agreements for books, t.v., etc.He is also a producer. They are all in it for the money! The family is now shopping interviews, through their reps, to the media outlets to the highest bidder.They all make me want to puke. Caylee is now lost in the glory of the big buck. So realy, realy sad.


producer or not... he's not very good at PR... remember all the grammatical errors in his first press release?

Yes, Bananapuddin - I remember... here is the original from Channel 9:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0904/17394107.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 07:31:23 PM
Hi everyone! 

Welcome to the new members!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 07:33:18 PM
Destiny said:
Yes...a new thread would keep the clutter out of this one....*unless* you want to know what the defence will be throwing out there to negate the Body Farm....AND...ORNL.....Des...

I love the way she says things to us, with the dot dot dot and caps. Hmmmmm Body Farm AND ORNL, got something special for us?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mizjay on October 16, 2008, 07:35:00 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.

I found this on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TQ8CTEEOC43TLA6HN/p89

    picture this wrote:
    <quoted text>Todd Black is a P.R. hack that is with Press Corps Media and hired by Baez. He is affiliated with a company called Arrested Media. A main principal of Arrested Media is Gil Cabot.Cabot claims he was wrongly convicted of crimes by the corrupt media. Cabot has administered a company that specialized in buying "true story" properties and packaging licenseing agreements for books, t.v., etc.He is also a producer. They are all in it for the money! The family is now shopping interviews, through their reps, to the media outlets to the highest bidder.They all make me want to puke. Caylee is now lost in the glory of the big buck. So realy, realy sad.


producer or not... he's not very good at PR... remember all the grammatical errors in his first press release?


May explain JB' s new selective use of media .  At the last news conf. he booted out the reporters he did't want there....follow that money......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
Ive gotta go start dinner.  Does a fried bolonga sandwich constitue a hot meal?????  BBL>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 07:36:06 PM
Now, I bet your'e singing that song "my bolonga has a first name ......... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 07:36:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html

Mysterious PR Man Backtracks On Comment That Caylee Anthony Is Dead

POSTED: 6:31 am EDT October 16, 2008
UPDATED: 6:22 pm EDT October 16, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team is backtracking after they finally admitted, on national TV, that Casey's daughter Caylee is dead.



"This is a very serious case, involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony," Todd Black said on CNN Wednesday night (Hear It All).

Black is Casey's attorney's spokesman. Not only is he trying to take back his words, so is the attorney and Casey's family.

Todd Black, the spokesperson for Casey Anthony's legal team, admitted on national television late Wednesday that Caylee Anthony is dead. Eyewitness News reached Black by phone Thursday and he denied that is what he meant. He insisted the Baez legal team is confident Caylee is just missing and Casey had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"I did not say that on national television. I responded to what someone else said," Black told Eyewitness News (full interview).

He scrambled for more than five minutes during the call, coming up with different excuses and explanations about what he meant by the comment. But, the bottom line is, he admitted what investigators have long said.

George Anthony brushed it off Thursday morning before he hit the road to drive around the billboard with his granddaughter's picture on it, because he still believes she's alive.

"I don't know why someone would say something like that when everything is circumstantial," George said.

A spokesperson for George and Cindy Anthony called the statement made by Todd Black, someone who's supposed to be on Casey's side, inappropriate.

"If he said something like that and that's what he meant then he shouldn't be representing, working for, Jose Baez because that's an inappropriate statement," said Larry Garrison, Anthony family spokesperson.

The family told Eyewitness News they are even setting up a new tip line that should be ready by Thursday night or Friday. Volunteers from all over the country will help.


WHO IS TODD BLACK?

Eyewitness News has been doing some digging to try to find out exactly who Todd Black is, but he doesn't have a professional track record or paper trail. He works for Press Corps Media. The company claims to have more than 200 employees and an $11 million profit margin, but Press Corps Media doesn't even have a website.

Todd Black has never appeared on camera, only doing interviews over the phone.

Is this why I couldn't find a picture of him all day Gezzz


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 07:36:39 PM
Des ~ Monken

Someone posted this on Topix last week about JCP Card

www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/TDI8CCRJ68BVOS26J/p396



     <quoted text>
    IIRC, According to Lee there was one receipt that was 'missing,' which he had purportedly given to
    Baez. The date: June 27th. This fact may have been enough for probable cause to obtain a warrant to search CA's JC Penny records...(It seems Casey had also called JC Penny, but don't remember the date. Perhaps she did this to check the balance, or to find out if the card had become inactive.) The date of June 27th, is the reason the discussion seemed of import.

She called the 1-800 jc penney number on June 27th..probably got it from the back of the card which was found in her belongings.

From my timeline:
June 27- 11:09:04am Casey calls 1-800-xxx-xxxx JC PENNEY’S (probably on the back of the card)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 07:37:01 PM
Casey's supper  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 07:37:36 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
As far as George stating a time that she took CA's car - it was during his police interview - he said it was either the week of the 24th or the 15th but that it was done around 5:00 - 6:00 pm - she was on the 408 and she either got off at Hiawassee or Kirkland - one of the two but he lost her.


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Was this a week that GA was between jobs? 

I have wondered this ever since I heard his interview. He says around 5:30-6pm, but he works 3-11, Sun-Th so wouldn't it have to have been Friday the 27th?
Anyone know when she returned the SUV?

I want to see those EZ pass records!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
Now, I bet your'e singing that song "my bolonga has a first name ......... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I thought I was the only one who liked fried bologna sandwiches. My husband had never heard of them before he met me. My brother used to fix them for me all the time growing up. I still like them occasionally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:41:29 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.

I don't remember seeing Casey in a straw hat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:42:40 PM
I find this a bit ironic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085542/
Turns out there is a Todd Black in Hollywood... a producer.

I found this on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TQ8CTEEOC43TLA6HN/p89

    picture this wrote:
    <quoted text>Todd Black is a P.R. hack that is with Press Corps Media and hired by Baez. He is affiliated with a company called Arrested Media. A main principal of Arrested Media is Gil Cabot.Cabot claims he was wrongly convicted of crimes by the corrupt media. Cabot has administered a company that specialized in buying "true story" properties and packaging licenseing agreements for books, t.v., etc.He is also a producer. They are all in it for the money! The family is now shopping interviews, through their reps, to the media outlets to the highest bidder.They all make me want to puke. Caylee is now lost in the glory of the big buck. So realy, realy sad.


producer or not... he's not very good at PR... remember all the grammatical errors in his first press release?

Yes, Bananapuddin - I remember... here is the original from Channel 9:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0904/17394107.pdf

The producer Todd Black has a pic on IMDB. I can't prove that it's the same guy...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm974297856/nm0085542


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
Now, I bet your'e singing that song "my bolonga has a first name ......... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I thought I was the only one who liked fried bologna sandwiches. My husband had never heard of them before he met me. My brother used to fix them for me all the time growing up. I still like them occasionally.


Me too.......Yummy!!!! :smt110


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 16, 2008, 07:43:35 PM
Now, I bet your'e singing that song "my bolonga has a first name ......... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I thought I was the only one who liked fried bologna sandwiches. My husband had never heard of them before he met me. My brother used to fix them for me all the time growing up. I still like them occasionally.

Same here! Ate them as a kid and loved them! Nice and crispy around the edges. Now Im hungery!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 07:45:13 PM
Almost time for Nancy Grace.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:46:29 PM
Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 07:46:54 PM
I don't live in Florida, but does anyone know if the skull that those boys found and didn't tell the police about a while back has been identified? TIA

as far as I know they haven't...
Thanks I hadn't heard anything either.

No word on that yet. I also have 10 other cases of human remains found around Florida since june 25th that I am waiting on some word/more info.
Were they found while searching for caylee?

No.....none were a Caylee search ...sorry it took me so long to answer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 07:48:35 PM

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Wouldn't that be a pleasant change?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:48:39 PM
Des ~ Monken

Someone posted this on Topix last week about JCP Card

www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/TDI8CCRJ68BVOS26J/p396



     <quoted text>
    IIRC, According to Lee there was one receipt that was 'missing,' which he had purportedly given to
    Baez. The date: June 27th. This fact may have been enough for probable cause to obtain a warrant to search CA's JC Penny records...(It seems Casey had also called JC Penny, but don't remember the date. Perhaps she did this to check the balance, or to find out if the card had become inactive.) The date of June 27th, is the reason the discussion seemed of import.

She called the 1-800 jc penney number on June 27th..probably got it from the back of the card which was found in her belongings.

From my timeline:
June 27- 11:09:04am Casey calls 1-800-xxx-xxxx JC PENNEY’S (probably on the back of the card)

Sorry, My Mom dropped by!  ::MonkeyWink::
Good info, Deenie, now if we can just find out what that june 27th purchase was....Oh Des!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 07:50:18 PM
Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400

Reverse phone number listing:

Aim Productions & Management
118 16th Ave S, Nashville, TN 37203-3100, United States (Map)

Phone: (615) 254-1400

SIC:Theatrical Producers (Except Motion Picture) and Miscellaneous Theatrical Services

Line of Business:Theatrical Producers/Services
Est. Annual Sales:$96,000

Est. Employees:2

Est. Employees at Location:2


2 employees? LOL


Now that I see this it was posted here a couple months ago I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400

LOL...I just love calling these people........Des...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 07:50:59 PM
Here someone call him and tell him we need a picture of him.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Untitled-5.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 16, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
Hi everyone! 

Welcome to the new members!   ::MonkeyDance::


Hey there ,wyks!!  :2waver: :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 07:55:41 PM
Casey's supper  ::MonkeyDance::


Now What Smells like a Dead SQUIRREL .................................... ::MonkeyTongue::

BARF



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 07:56:29 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/6303.jpg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.variety.com/rbidata/photogallery/variety/6303.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.variety.com/index.asp%3Flayout%3DphotoGalleryAlbum%26galleryid%3D629&h=243&w=365&sz=12&hl=en&start=1&sig2=6uadqi2NFAZVyTtr4q9IIA&usg=__GkYeUmw1ICMR0VDCHVcuxCyLv2I=&tbnid=wYJ3k9wXel8RWM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=121&ei=ZNT3SODRHqDAeuDFyYoO&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTodd%2BBlack%2B,%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 07:57:23 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/6303.jpg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.variety.com/rbidata/photogallery/variety/6303.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.variety.com/index.asp%3Flayout%3DphotoGalleryAlbum%26galleryid%3D629&h=243&w=365&sz=12&hl=en&start=1&sig2=6uadqi2NFAZVyTtr4q9IIA&usg=__GkYeUmw1ICMR0VDCHVcuxCyLv2I=&tbnid=wYJ3k9wXel8RWM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=121&ei=ZNT3SODRHqDAeuDFyYoO&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTodd%2BBlack%2B,%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Blonde - there is a better pic on IMDB, but I can't copy/paste
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm974297856/nm0085542


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WillenFan21 on October 16, 2008, 07:58:10 PM
For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
Here someone call him and tell him we need a picture of him.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Untitled-5.jpg)
I want a pic of him... I always like to see the face of the fool i'm laughing at.. ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.

I don't remember seeing Casey in a straw hat.
Thanks, I thought I had read a few pages back that someone had seen her in a straw hat and I don't remember seeing her with one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WillenFan21 on October 16, 2008, 08:00:33 PM
BTW I am really sorry about last night. My mom and I had to go shopping for outfits for my cousins wedding that is this weekend. Which BTW I am most likely not going to be able to stream NG tomorow because its the rehearsal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mary on October 16, 2008, 08:01:01 PM
One of Dr Koblinski students was raped and murdered about 1 yr ago or maybe a little more. They arrested a doorman of the club she had been at that nite. They
found her body because her cell phone was still on. He said she was a very gifted student and was nearly finished her coarses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2008, 08:01:43 PM
O/T Mtnmom...I have not forgotten you, still working on it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:01:54 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/6303.jpg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.variety.com/rbidata/photogallery/variety/6303.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.variety.com/index.asp%3Flayout%3DphotoGalleryAlbum%26galleryid%3D629&h=243&w=365&sz=12&hl=en&start=1&sig2=6uadqi2NFAZVyTtr4q9IIA&usg=__GkYeUmw1ICMR0VDCHVcuxCyLv2I=&tbnid=wYJ3k9wXel8RWM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=121&ei=ZNT3SODRHqDAeuDFyYoO&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTodd%2BBlack%2B,%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
This is Todd Black??... yes he is a stand up comedian


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 08:02:39 PM
Here is the small version of Todd Black from IMDB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 08:03:14 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::Thank you Willen, now I can listen to it without my husband throwing things at me to turn the channel of of NG!!!!!! ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sal on October 16, 2008, 08:04:27 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
What is with the Koolaide? I jumped in late in this case and don't know what you guys are referring to!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sal on October 16, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
Kool-Aid = buying into KC's bull#*@!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 16, 2008, 08:07:27 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/MV5BMTQ5MzE4OTU1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 08:08:35 PM
The KoolAid may have been laced with Cindy's medications.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:10:20 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/6303.jpg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.variety.com/rbidata/photogallery/variety/6303.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.variety.com/index.asp%3Flayout%3DphotoGalleryAlbum%26galleryid%3D629&h=243&w=365&sz=12&hl=en&start=1&sig2=6uadqi2NFAZVyTtr4q9IIA&usg=__GkYeUmw1ICMR0VDCHVcuxCyLv2I=&tbnid=wYJ3k9wXel8RWM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=121&ei=ZNT3SODRHqDAeuDFyYoO&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTodd%2BBlack%2B,%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
This is Todd Black??... yes he is a stand up comedian

Well, so is Baez, except he's not funny ON PURPOSE!

The big dork.  I'm just so relieved he didn't become a doctor. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:10:34 PM
Thi slady on ng reminds me of that reporter that gilda radner played on saturday night live...What was her name?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:11:15 PM
Thi slady on ng reminds me of that reporter that gilda radner played on saturday night live...What was her name?

Oh man yes!! Rosanna Rosannadanna!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:11:30 PM
Thi slady on ng reminds me of that reporter that gilda radner played on saturday night live...What was her name?

Rosanrosanannadanna...LOL!    I loved Gilda!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 08:12:29 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/MV5BMTQ5MzE4OTU1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)
Thanks Blonde!! You're good! Did you see how many credits he has as a producer?

# Chad Schmidt (2010) (announced) (producer)
# Need (2009) (pre-production) (producer)
# Nautica (2008) (pre-production) (producer)
# The Taking of Pelham 123 (2009) (post-production) (producer)
# Knowing (2009) (post-production) (producer)
# Seven Pounds (2008) (post-production) (producer)

# The Great Debaters (2007) (producer)
# The Pursuit of Happyness (2006) (producer)
# The Weather Man (2005) (producer)
# S.W.A.T. (2003) (co-executive producer)
# Alex & Emma (2003) (producer)
# Antwone Fisher (2002) (producer)
# A Knight's Tale (2001) (producer)

# A Family Thing (1996) (producer)
# Dunston Checks In (1996) (producer)
# Dvoynik (1995) (producer)
... aka The Double
# Official Denial (1994) (TV) (executive producer)
# Wrestling Ernest Hemingway (1993) (producer)
# Fire in the Sky (1993) (producer)
# Class Act (1992) (producer)
# Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot (1992) (executive producer)
# Becoming Colette (1991) (executive producer)
... aka Colette
# Perfect Harmony (1991) (TV) (executive producer)
# Short Time (1990) (producer)
# The Guardian (1990) (co-producer)

# Split Decisions (1988) (co-producer)
... aka Kid Gloves (USA)
# Spellbinder (1988) (co-producer)
# Sunday Drive (1986) (TV) (executive producer)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:12:34 PM
Thi slady on ng reminds me of that reporter that gilda radner played on saturday night live...What was her name?

Oh man yes!! Rosanna Rosannadanna!
::MonkeyDance:: Yes that's the name!!! I had a brain fart!!!LOL!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:13:20 PM
It doesn't sound like NG is going to give us anything new today, so far haven't heard BREAKING NEWS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:13:21 PM
BTW I am really sorry about last night. My mom and I had to go shopping for outfits for my cousins wedding that is this weekend. Which BTW I am most likely not going to be able to stream NG tomorow because its the rehearsal.

Oh, I feel your pain.  I've been shopping for days (normally that's a GOOD thing, mind you) for outfits for both a wedding and rehearsal dinner that my husband is in this weekend.   

Come to think of it, could we be going to the same wedding?   You never know!

What state are you in?   That would be so funny.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 08:13:27 PM
In my best Monkey way - here is drinking the kool-aide
1.    drinking the kool-aide    28 up, 2 down love ithate it
   
To blindly follow, or believe something or someone without even questioning the facts. Refusing to agknowledge the real truth. Believed to have connections to the Reverand Jimmy Jones cult that committed mass suicide by drinking kool-aide spiked with poison.
If they beleive that, they must be drinking the kool-aide.
misled stupid out of the loop brainwashed hypnotized
Link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drinking+the+kool-aide   Love this site - makes me not look 48, right? LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:14:00 PM
It doesn't sound like NG is going to give us anything new today, so far haven't heard BREAKING NEWS!

Or "BOMBSHELL!!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 08:14:17 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/MV5BMTQ5MzE4OTU1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)

Are we sure this is the same Todd Black?  Seems like it could be a common name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 16, 2008, 08:14:28 PM
Thi slady on ng reminds me of that reporter that gilda radner played on saturday night live...What was her name?

Rosanrosanannadanna...LOL!    I loved Gilda!
"Emily Latilla"........................................ NEVERMIND!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:14:58 PM
If it was Casey in the big straw hat and red sunglasses, how could someone be so stupid???  Like that wouldnt draw more attention to themselves.  I think if she was spotted at 2 different times in 2 different locations by 2 different people she was just spreading the items out to throw of LE.  I cant see her or anyone else moving a body that would have been severely decomposed twice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:15:49 PM
In my best Monkey way - here is drinking the kool-aide
1.    drinking the kool-aide    28 up, 2 down love ithate it
   
To blindly follow, or believe something or someone without even questioning the facts. Refusing to agknowledge the real truth. Believed to have connections to the Reverand Jimmy Jones cult that committed mass suicide by drinking kool-aide spiked with poison.
If they beleive that, they must be drinking the kool-aide.
misled stupid out of the loop brainwashed hypnotized
Link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drinking+the+kool-aide   Love this site - makes me not look 48, right? LOL

Thanks! I was thinking alone the lines of Jim Jones but wasn't sure if maybe Baez was passing out Koolaide in his first press conference!! LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WillenFan21 on October 16, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
BTW I am really sorry about last night. My mom and I had to go shopping for outfits for my cousins wedding that is this weekend. Which BTW I am most likely not going to be able to stream NG tomorow because its the rehearsal.

Oh, I feel your pain.  I've been shopping for days (normally that's a GOOD thing, mind you) for outfits for both a wedding and rehearsal dinner that my husband is in this weekend.   

Come to think of it, could we be going to the same wedding?   You never know!

What state are you in?   That would be so funny.   

I'm in PA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:18:23 PM
You know I take back what I just said.  If Casey can be out partying and whooping it up and stealing from her friends and using chloroform and leading LE to universal and all over town while lying, then yes she could of been moving a severely decomposed body...what was I thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananapuddin on October 16, 2008, 08:18:27 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/MV5BMTQ5MzE4OTU1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)

Are we sure this is the same Todd Black?  Seems like it could be a common name.
IMDB lists this guy's full name as Todd Stuart Black. I can't find a full name for Todd Black of Press Corps Media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
OK, here I multi-task, while playing with the monkeys I was also watching NCIS. Amazing, I know. They just said that plants have their own DNA, like from one tree to another of the same type of tree! So if plant matter was found on KC's car and they matched it to a site that they find of interest, they can say for sure that KC was there. I find that interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:20:30 PM
BTW I am really sorry about last night. My mom and I had to go shopping for outfits for my cousins wedding that is this weekend. Which BTW I am most likely not going to be able to stream NG tomorow because its the rehearsal.

Oh, I feel your pain.  I've been shopping for days (normally that's a GOOD thing, mind you) for outfits for both a wedding and rehearsal dinner that my husband is in this weekend.   

Come to think of it, could we be going to the same wedding?   You never know!

What state are you in?   That would be so funny.   

I'm in PA.

Oh.  Well, unless you're flying out here to California, we're going to different weddings!     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry for the O/T, y'all.

Here's an on topic question.  Are we sure that's the same Todd Black?   Actually,  wouldn't be one bit surprised since Larry Garrison, who is supposedly an "actor", (that really applies to anyone trying to say Casey in innocent, so it's not that far off base) was their "spokesman".   

Gag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:20:47 PM
My favorite is the using the super glue vapors and getting prints.  Maybe they did this to the trash bag and found another set of prints and that why they are saying there was an accomplice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:21:08 PM
OMG, NG is soooooo bad!! I love to see these people scramble to please Mommy while trying to answer her questions. Check your balls in at the door!! Did you see Mark's expression when she told him to throw her a bone, and he didn't answer correctly enough? NOW she's threatened that if he doesn't step up, he's out!!! OMG, too funny and sad at the same time!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:21:52 PM
You know I take back what I just said.  If Casey can be out partying and whooping it up and stealing from her friends and using chloroform and leading LE to universal and all over town while lying, then yes she could of been moving a severely decomposed body...what was I thinking.

I think she does an excellent job of dissociating.   Actually, I don't think she's able to reassociate.  I think she's living in an alternate universe - her reality is not that of the rest of us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 08:22:42 PM
OK, here I multi-task, while playing with the monkeys I was also watching NCIS. Amazing, I know. They just said that plants have their own DNA, like from one tree to another of the same type of tree! So if plant matter was found on KC's car and they matched it to a site that they find of interest, they can say for sure that KC was there. I find that interesting.

i dont recall which one, but i have seen that done on a TRUE CRIME tv show... i watch so many, its hard to remember which one...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: guideposts on October 16, 2008, 08:23:17 PM
Monkeys...I have a favor to ask...

....Des



MORRIS MEISTER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE LECTURE SERIES
Date: March 20th, 2002

Topic: The World Trade Center As A Crime Scene/Germ Warfare
http://www.bxscience.edu/publications/forensics/specialevents/speakers/f-spea05.htm

Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky is the Associate Provost of the Interdisciplinary Forensics Science Department at John Jay College. He received his B.S. and M.A. degrees from the City College of City University of New York and his Ph.D. degree from the City University of New York. His doctoral work was performed at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine Biochemistry department, and he became a postdoctoral fellow at the Sloan-Kettering Institute in New York City after receiving his doctorate. Dr. Koblinsky is a member of 18 professional organizations, and serves on the Boards of the New York Microscopical Society and the Eastern Analytical Symposium. He has served as a consultant to CBS and other network news programs on issues related to forensic science, as well as an advisor to the U.S. State Department regarding forensic science laboratories in Eastern Europe. An internationally renowned forensic scientist, he has served as advisor to criminalistics laboratories in several countries, and is both a Diplomat of the American College of Forensic Examiners and a Board Certified Forensic Examiner. He has received numerous honors, including the Federal Law Enforcement Officers "Civilian Award" and has published extensively on the subject of forensic DNA analysis.


http://www.wiod.com/cc-common/podcast.html
Dave speaks with Dr. Larry Koblinsky, Professor of Forensic Science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, about JonBenet Ramsey's parents and brother being cleared in the 6-year-old's 1996 murder  PODCAST

Consultant on Nancy Grace show


http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~science/kobilinsky.htm
Lawrence Kobilinsky
Ph.D. – City University Graduate Center
Professor of Biology and Immunology
Associate Provost John Jay College
(212) 237-8884

My research interests concern the use of state-of-the-art technology to identify individuals from physiological fluids and tissues, and to associate biological crime scene evidence with a suspect. Forensic DNA analysis has been termed a revolutionary technique which resulted from the ground-breaking work of Drs. Kary Mullis and Alec Jeffries. The technology has evolved ever since.

The late 80’s saw the adoption of RFLP (DNA Fingerprinting) methods by a number of public and private laboratories. The FBI and other Federal, State and County laboratories became keenly interested in the promise of this technology. There was a clear transition from protein analysis to nucleotide analysis, the latter being far superior because of a greater degree of polymorphism that exists at various genetic loci within the genome. During the early 90's, the expensive and time consuming RFLP procedure has been supplanted by the use of analyses of evidence that had been amplified by the Polymerase Chain Reaction technology to generate large quantities of genetic material from, often, miniscule amounts of evidence found at crime scenes. The amplified DNA can then be tested using a variety of different methods such as reverse dot blot procedures, gel or capillary electrophoresis.

Currently, my research is focused on single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) detection and on sequencing technology. Although SNP analysis is not yet performed by forensic laboratories, it is in many ways far superior to the current widely used PCR-STR analysis. The forensic biology laboratory at John Jay boasts all the necessary equipment to perform all types of forensic DNA analysis. This equipment includes ABI-Prism sequencers (310 and 377), the latter being a gel electrophoresis instrument and the former being a capillary electrophoresis instrument. It also includes an ABI Taqman for real time PCR studies as well as SNP detection. SNP detection is also accomplished with a Transgenomic Wave instrument. The laboratory is also equipped with an Agilent system which features the latest chip technology for human identification. The Lab on a Chip uses micro-capillary electrophoresis followed by gene scanning to accomplish identification.


http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/folio/spring2005/bloodwork.htm

Kobilinsky, who received his Ph.D. in biology from The Graduate Center in 1977, came to John Jay full-time from the Sloan-Kettering Institute for Cancer Research in 1980, only a few years before forensic DNA testing was about to become a revolutionary discovery for human identification. He has since become a sort of crime-science Renaissance man around campus.

On a given day, he might be advising a graduate student, peering at readouts from one of the genetic sequencing machines housed in his compact laboratory, writing a textbook on forensic science for high school students, or appearing on television to comment on a high-profile case of the moment--Kobilinsky was prominently featured for months in a seat beside Dan Rather, analyzing the scientific portions of the O.J. Simpson murder trial. A recent week even found him jetting off to the Dominican Republic to investigate that nation's penal system and write an eye-opening report at the request of newly elected President Leonel Fernandez, a City College graduate.

Back home, Kobilinsky's own criminal justice research takes several tacks. One is his recent push to add greater rigor and science to the way crime investigators collect, document, examine, and match bite marks to exemplars (orthodontic casts taken from suspects).

"Why bite marks? Virtually all Federal grant money is going into DNA testing now, but that has been to the neglect of other kinds of evidence--latent fingerprint, hair, bite-mark, document examination, fiber evidence, and other kinds," he explains.

Indeed, in a number of recent cases, fingerprint or bite-mark findings of guilt have clashed with subsequent DNA test results exonerating the same suspects.

"I've been very critical of forensic procedures that are more art than science," he says. "So much of this bite-mark examination is subjective, just as it is with fingerprints. There is no clear protocol or system for the examiner who must make the call as to whether or not this bite mark matches the bite pattern from a suspect; it mostly comes down to feeling, opinion, and experience."

With graduate student Kathleen Pfeiffer and forensic dentist Dr. Ira Titunik, Kobilinsky has been using an image processing computer software known as Lucis to digitize, and then transform into grey tones, photographs of bite marks on victims. The resulting images can then be matched to a growing catalogue of Lucis-transformed images of sample bite marks from suspects.

"This is about putting more objectivity into that examination," he says. "What we're trying to do is bring more science to that process."

Kobilinsky also remains active on the DNA front: Another of his projects is a concerted effort to improve the scientific protocols used in lab work. New advances in DNA testing, particularly of so-called low-copy number DNA samples, have increased the power of the tests but also the potential for errors in identification. Because the low-copy method uses such small numbers of DNA molecules--genetic profiles have been generated from as little as a single human cell (and there are trillions of cells in the body)--the testing must be done especially carefully.

"These low-copy techniques are very useful in cases of burglary and robbery, where you might only find a single smudged latent fingerprint or a bit of hair," Kobilinsky says. "You might turn up some good investigative leads. But the flip side of this is that contamination can ruin everything. For example, if even a few cells slough off the investigator's hair or skin and gets into the sample, it's contaminated. Or if some DNA-containing evidence was already present at the crime scene prior to the criminal event, you could generate an irrelevant genetic profile. Even if you get 'successful' typing results, you may not always be able to interpret them properly."

With his John Jay lab team, Kobilinsky is devising a new system for handling small amounts of DNA and amplifying that DNA from a few copies into billions of copies using the process knows as polymerase chain reaction. At any stage of processing (extraction of DNA, quantification, addition to PCR reagents, or thermal cycling) it's possible to accidentally introduce a contaminant which could render the results difficult or impossible to interpret. To test the refinements, he obtained nearly one hundred old-case weapons swabbings from a collaborating police department (the John Jay labs are not accredited to do any actual crime scene lab work for law enforcement purposes), then re-ran the DNA testing using a number of different protocols.

"I feel we've hit upon a better way" of organizing and performing the low-copy tests, he says. "The technique we use minimizes exposure of the template DNA to any potential contaminant."


BOOKS:

Forensic Medicine (Inside Forensic Science)
by Howard C Adelman, Lawrence Kobilinsky (Editor)
$38.57 
Dec., 2006
Forensic medicine uses medical specialties and scientific techniques from various fields--dentistry, psychology, and biology, among others--to investigate the causes of death, injury, or disease. This book explores the use of forensic medicine in each of these areas, as well as how the findings come together to solve cases.

DNA: Forensic and Legal Applications
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 16, 2008, 08:23:29 PM
If it was Casey in the big straw hat and red sunglasses, how could someone be so stupid???  Like that wouldnt draw more attention to themselves.  I think if she was spotted at 2 different times in 2 different locations by 2 different people she was just spreading the items out to throw of LE.  I cant see her or anyone else moving a body that would have been severely decomposed twice.
Kat I wouldn't think Casey would be in a big straw hat, but Cindy is the at the age to wear one. Maybe Cindy is the one the person saw. IDK, I don't have cable so I don't know what all is being said on NG if anything about the person that saw "someone" in the hat. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
As far as George stating a time that she took CA's car - it was during his police interview - he said it was either the week of the 24th or the 15th but that it was done around 5:00 - 6:00 pm - she was on the 408 and she either got off at Hiawassee or Kirkland - one of the two but he lost her.


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Was this a week that GA was between jobs? 

I have wondered this ever since I heard his interview. He says around 5:30-6pm, but he works 3-11, Sun-Th so wouldn't it have to have been Friday the 27th?
Anyone know when she returned the SUV?

I want to see those EZ pass records!!

KCJackie, do you know the answers to this? TIA, your fellow KC monkey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 08:23:53 PM
Id like to see NG sell stuff at the ball game - ICE COLD BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
My favorite is the using the super glue vapors and getting prints.  Maybe they did this to the trash bag and found another set of prints and that why they are saying there was an accomplice.

Ooooooo I remember that from CSI, very good!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
Video Audio of Todd Black with Mike G from Headline News

Before it magically goes poof from the internet

Could only find it on You tube - on CNN video is gone

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=todd%20black%20caylee&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UabEpAxzU



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:25:42 PM
If it was Casey in the big straw hat and red sunglasses, how could someone be so stupid???  Like that wouldnt draw more attention to themselves.  I think if she was spotted at 2 different times in 2 different locations by 2 different people she was just spreading the items out to throw of LE.  I cant see her or anyone else moving a body that would have been severely decomposed twice.
Kat I wouldn't think Casey would be in a big straw hat, but Cindy is the at the age to wear one. Maybe Cindy is the one the person saw. IDK, I don't have cable so I don't know what all is being said on NG if anything about the person that saw "someone" in the hat. Just my opinion.

OK I could definately see Cindy in a big straw hat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SS on October 16, 2008, 08:26:41 PM
  Missing Persons - High Profile / Caylee Marie Anthony / Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45  on: Today at 05:29:40 PM 
Quote from: mrsrocko19 on Today at 05:20:50 PM
Klass or Anybody!!! Can we start a seperate thread for this info on Dr. Lawrence kobelinski..So Des can get it from there? Or should we just email it..I'm kinda curious about all this info on him myself


Yes...a new thread would keep the clutter out of this one....*unless* you want to know what the defence will be throwing out there to negate the Body Farm....AND...ORNL.....Des...



Des - thanks again for all the work that you've been doing.  I have to laugh, because didn't the defense refer to the Body Farm evidence as "circumstantial"?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  That "circumstantial" evidence is going to bring Casey down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:26:53 PM
My favorite is the using the super glue vapors and getting prints.  Maybe they did this to the trash bag and found another set of prints and that why they are saying there was an accomplice.

Ooooooo I remember that from CSI, very good!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::

I actually saw it on Forensic Files.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:26:54 PM
Id like to see NG sell stuff at the ball game - ICE COLD BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR..

Yeah, if you don't have your money ready there would be hell to pay. I think they call her the Soup Nazi!!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 08:29:56 PM
Video Audio of Todd Black with Mike G from Headline News

Before it magically goes poof from the internet

Could only find it on You tube - on CNN video is gone

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=todd%20black%20caylee&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UabEpAxzU


thanks ! i saw it.. i heard it... now i HOPE someone who knows how, makes sure EVERYONE sees it in the future.. :)





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Western Observr on October 16, 2008, 08:31:52 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!

It's called being in Prosecutor Mode. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 16, 2008, 08:32:04 PM
"chuck " is on NG!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:32:57 PM
SEE! Lee said that she is telling the truth TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITY. He knows she is a liar! He even said that to his face. Lee believes he can get the truth from his sister. Back to my post this AM, Lee is acting the part of still believing in her and following his own lawyers advice to stay in the background so KC still believes in him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sal on October 16, 2008, 08:33:09 PM
Wow, what a dream team! NOT!!

(http://i36.tinypic.com/30j4hsw.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 16, 2008, 08:33:24 PM
My favorite is the using the super glue vapors and getting prints.  Maybe they did this to the trash bag and found another set of prints and that why they are saying there was an accomplice.

Ooooooo I remember that from CSI, very good!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::

I actually saw it on Forensic Files.

I've seen it also on The First 48.  (Great show)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!
I think she is in Pre menopause - .......... ::MonkeyEek:: serious


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 08:35:25 PM
If it was Casey in the big straw hat and red sunglasses, how could someone be so stupid???  Like that wouldnt draw more attention to themselves.  I think if she was spotted at 2 different times in 2 different locations by 2 different people she was just spreading the items out to throw of LE.  I cant see her or anyone else moving a body that would have been severely decomposed twice.
Kat I wouldn't think Casey would be in a big straw hat, but Cindy is the at the age to wear one. Maybe Cindy is the one the person saw. IDK, I don't have cable so I don't know what all is being said on NG if anything about the person that saw "someone" in the hat. Just my opinion.

that is nutty.  i was thinking the same thing about cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 16, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
I have really been haunted by the possibility of Caylee being moved more than 2 times, and that her remains may be in more than one area.  As for the latest witnesses, who within Casey's circle would be in a suit at that time of day?  I can't remember who worked where, anyone who worked in a profession or going to some kind of school that would require that kind of attire?

Or what if she scattered her in many places to make her harder find  :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!
I think she is in Pre menopause - .......... ::MonkeyEek:: serious

Does Midol help that???   LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:38:42 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!
I think she is in Pre menopause - .......... ::MonkeyEek:: serious

Does Midol help that???   LOL!
I asked my husband..He said if you mean for Bit&@% no...He uses earplugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:39:10 PM
NG has been such a b&@%h lately....geez!  She certainly isnt her happy, im the luckiest mommy of twins, were so blessed person anymore.  Someone give her some midol or whatever it takes...sheesh!

It's called being in Prosecutor Mode. ::MonkeyLaugh::

Can you imagine when those babies get bigger? Did you take that cookie? ANSWER ME! That's NOT what I ASKED! Go to your room while I grill your sister!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on October 16, 2008, 08:39:23 PM
i will never understand how a mothers love could turn so bad casey was jealous of caylee a beautiful sweet innocent angel i do hope and pray they find here so she can have a decent goodbye i will never understand how someone can hurt a child i make my self sick thinking about all these angels that are missing god bless

Hi SocialFriend2,

I see a lot of posts on here about CaseyA and her behavior thus far. I thought I could possibly break it down and try to help those make sense of it. To you and me the rules and the consequences make sense. To her, they do not. I have dealt with a few patients who have sociopathic/psychopathic personalities, yet not to this extreme. The anomalies in one’s mind are fascinating to me.


This is a good post & i agree with most everthing you've said. They're a couple things I'd like to add. A psychopath/sociopath is defined by a specific list of behaviors. They are almost never diagnosed, they are identifyed. There is basically no difference between a psychopath, sociopath, or anti-social personality disorder. All of these terms are used by different experts, psychologists, therapists etc. to describe the SAME type of individual.

Also the book you suggested is  excellent, I have read it 3 times & have suggested it myself several times. The name of the book is "The SOCIOPATH Next Door", unless it's been printed with 2 different titles.

YES, you are right it is the Sociopath Next Door. Sorry to confuse. I get into my groove and get stuck on one word. You are definitely correct, they are rarely diagnosed. Which is why I believe the defense won't go there with a possible excuse for her actions. And you are also correct there is little difference between the two terms. When I think of a sociopath, I think of Dahmer, Manson, Gein and when I think of a psychopath, I think of Ted Bundy and David Berkowitz. I believe that Anti-social behaviors can be diagnosed at a much earlier age. And while they are all essentially the same 'type' of person, they each have their own unique characterstics.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 08:40:16 PM
I have really been haunted by the possibility of Caylee being moved more than 2 times, and that her remains may be in more than one area.  As for the latest witnesses, who within Casey's circle would be in a suit at that time of day?  I can't remember who worked where, anyone who worked in a profession or going to some kind of school that would require that kind of attire?

Or what if she scattered her in many places to make her harder find  :(

Doubt that, it would give LE and TES too many options of finding her. If they find any tiny bitty bit, KC will fry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 08:40:54 PM
Me Thinks that " Kobe" is Mensa intelligent and He is so Anal as in Analytical that he has a hard time coming across - due to the way his mind works.
He is not a Social man, he is man of Science.

And I think NG flusters him, because he is struggling to explain in terms that All can understand his explanations ...
He knows he can't use his normal " Big Words" that would cause her to say " KOBE EXPLAIN so we can understand".
He is sort of stuck in a difficult place I think when Live on her Show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
Here's to hoping that OCSO the day after or of, the State's Attorney office reading the BJ Motion regarding inspecting the undercarriage of the decomposition car on a lift, that is what they did.  Must say would like to see CA's car thoroughly processed as well, for if memory serves me correctly when the web cam's were initially up & running I don't remember seeing her vehicle stored in that garage, wonder where it was?  Still think it was odd that AL's auto was washed by the skank when she picked him up at the airport, now filling the gas tank sure, but washing it, nope the skank is a lazy one.

Also regarding the weight of the body, if the fluid was spilled out into the trunk space, wouldn't that be a whole light lighter to carry?  She is decrepid & evil & do believe that she had framing of the crazed CA also, but that is pure speculation based on the 3rd 911 call & her claiming not to have seen Caylee for 31 days where crazed CA was claiming 30 days & then you have LA commenting on the 31 days utterance by the skank being as if she was counting days, iirc.


Title: TO TOT and others
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 08:41:41 PM
THIS IS TO TOT AND OTHERS WHO THINK I AM TOO HARD ON CINDY.

You may be right!  But I just find so much of Cindy's behavior to be suspect.  For the record, I was spoiled rotten by my grandmother and lived with her for three years.  I had it pretty easy as a child and I haven't murdered anyone.   But one thing is certain, if you talk a young woman into giving birth to a child and then keep her and the child in your home and willingly pay all the bills and spend a lot of time babysitting, etc., you had better be prepared to do it with a smile and not throw it in their faces later. 

It just does not work to play the martyr, and maybe all women or all mothers or all wives feel like martyrs from time to time.  But you cannot tell your children day after day how much you do for them, how much you spend on them, how much they have disappointed you, etc., not if you want to maintain a good relationship with them.  Nobody wants to hear over and over how much someone has sacrificed on their behalf, even if it is true.

I know what it is like to be a young and insecure first-time mom, and I was married.  If my mom, or anyone else, had been telling me that I was inadequate as a mother, much less unfit, I would have felt terrible.  I don't know if I could have coped with constant negative feedback, and something tells me that one of the few truths that Caylee has told is that Cindy often called her an unfit mother and threatened to get full custody of Caylee.

My mother never told me I was an unfit parent.  Nor did she go around telling my friends that I was a pathological liar and a thief.  Those are really harsh, terrible things for a parent to say to a daughter.  NOW Cindy talks about what a great mom Casey was, but it is too late.  We know from the 911 call that she threatened Casey with getting full custody of Caylee the night of the police report.  I don't think for a minute that was her first time to do that.

Yes, Cindy paid for everything, as she mentioned in her little note posted online.  "MY Caylee is missing."  "I paid for everything...fed, clothed, provided shelter, paid for medical bills."  Well, if she wanted to do that, she should not be complaining about it.  Cindy could have made some ground rules for Casey.  And maybe she did.  But she always ended up going right back to her "let mommy take care of it" role.  It seems she would crack down, get mad, make threats, and then start to baby Casey all over again. 

Cindy was inconsistent.  I have said from the beginning that the family dynamics were the root of this tragedy, and I believe that more today than ever.  Cindy wanted to take care of both Casey and Caylee, but she wanted to be worshipped for it, and unfortunately, in that circumstance, the mom is often resented.  Casey took the money and lived at home, but she clearly did not want to be in that situation.

I think both the parents knew that Casey had no job.  I think they both knew she lied and stole from them.  I know they knew she partied too much.  But they let her get away with it for months, cracked down, had big fights, Casey cried and lied some more, they forgave her and gave her more stuff as a reward.  It is just a bad cycle, and I think they were trapped in it.

It is the classic love/hate relationship.  Casey did not "fear" her parents in the traditional sense.  She knew they would not beat her or kick her out.  But she feared their disapproval and most of all, their control and domination over her life.  She feared, I think, that they were right about her...that she was unfit and no good. 

Casey left their home, the place where she was taken care of and did not have to lift a finger, and went out into the night with her child and no job, no good friends who could take care of her, no money, no prospects, no future, as Cindy said in her post.  She must have wanted to get out of there in the worst way.  She literally had no place to go and had tgo sleep of the sofas of friends or maybe even in her car a few times.  Yet she left and had not returned and had no intention of returning until Cindy tracked her down at Tony's.

I know Cindy was worried about Caylee.  I would have been, too.  Cindy says in her online post that she does not know who is "watching out for the little angel now."  That is a clear expression of her anxiety and her doubts that Casey would take proper case of Caylee.  Now, she says she never had such doubts, but her post tells us something different.

This is not the first case of a stressed and immature mother taking the life of her own child and it will not be the last.  It is different in that Casey was able to go out dancing and shopping afterward and pretend it had not happened.  I think Cindy and George loved Caylee and that they love Casey, but Cindy just did not know what to do with Casey.  She could not handle her.  There was resentment on both sides.

That is the way I see it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:43:14 PM
Me Thinks that " Kobe" is Mensa intelligent and He is so Anal as in Analytical that he has a hard time coming across - due to the way his mind works.
He is not a Social man, he is man of Science.

And I think NG flusters him, because he is struggling to explain in terms that All can understand his explanations ...
He knows he can't use his normal " Big Words" that would cause her to say " KOBE EXPLAIN so we can understand".
He is sort of stuck in a difficult place I think when Live on her Show.

Then we need Nancy to prosecute this case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 08:43:45 PM
OMG!  Did you just hear the news break?  A mother busted for giving her toddlers Cocaine, Meth and pot and is pregnant, still using, stating she hopes she uses to lose the unborn baby!  ::MonkeyShocked::   I wanna puke again!

She needs to sit in a cell with Casey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 08:44:41 PM
Hi everyone! 

Welcome to the new members!   ::MonkeyDance::


Hey there ,wyks!!  :2waver: :2waver:

Hi Monken!   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey, have you guys ever noticed that NG's "callers" on her show are often the same people over and again?  On another case, in another forum, for several months I was pulling the transcripts from her show for a thread for those w/o cable, and over time noticed repeated names for the callers.  Got me to wondering... Could it be?  Could NG's "callers" actually be faked or the same people over and over, not random as she claims at times?  And after realizing that her show is basically several clips shown over and over, I sure wouldn't put it past her to do this too.  I like NG, I really do, I like what she stands for and her attitude about that.  Yet a lot of what she does/says, the interrupting and endless commercials just puts her over the edge for me.

Just makes me appreciate Greta all the more!  Cannot wait for the elections to be over so hopefully she will get back to focusing on this stuff again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
Me Thinks that " Kobe" is Mensa intelligent and He is so Anal as in Analytical that he has a hard time coming across - due to the way his mind works.
He is not a Social man, he is man of Science.

And I think NG flusters him, because he is struggling to explain in terms that All can understand his explanations ...
He knows he can't use his normal " Big Words" that would cause her to say " KOBE EXPLAIN so we can understand".
He is sort of stuck in a difficult place I think when Live on her Show.

Then we need Nancy to prosecute this case
Can She still Practice Law or is she Retired?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 16, 2008, 08:46:04 PM
Did anyone hear Richard Grund talk about maybe a fake kidnapping plot by Casey ?
He said Rob Dick would know more about it ! Wazzup with these ppl ? Ok so it was a fake kidnapping plot, where did the dead smell come from ? Help me not get on a plane and snap someone's neck ! WTF are these ppl talking about ! ! !
I am so pissed as to ppl speculating and becoming Ciniy-izzled.
Just maybe shut yer cake hole when :
a. ) You haven't had any contact with Casey for more than a year
b.) You referred to her as a Monster
c.) you don't any more than I do about her " state of mind "
And furthermore, if it was a fake plot and someone supplied a dead body to drag around, who would that be ? Any cops we know were asked to leave the OCSD ?
And if you know so much about what she would do or not do, please use your powers, suPernatural of course and tell us WHERE IS CAYLE TONIGHT !



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 16, 2008, 08:46:42 PM
I too thought it was odd that AL's car got washed by Casey and it is one thing that made me wonder if Caylee was moved several times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 08:46:58 PM
:smt006 Monkeys  Good evening to all.

I need to go back and try speed reading to get caught up   but wanted to drop this off
and hope is gets bumped along at times 
 
Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

TIA



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 08:47:34 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.

Perhaps her mother or father had a straw hat and she borrowed one from them (cin cin does like to garden, maybe she sometimes wear one) . . . and as to the "well dressed" person that was pretending to fish and was acting as a look out, I wish someone would have asked the witness what he meant by that.  The witness was a pretty casual guy, "well dressed" could mean anything to that guy!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SS on October 16, 2008, 08:47:35 PM
KCJackie - do you know the cross-street on Semoran Blvd. nearest to where you think Red's photographs came from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 08:47:46 PM
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

link to a couple more pic's of the hat

The hat says "Show Me Your Shamrocks". Probably from somewhere they got drunk on St. Patricks Day.
(I know, I'm a thousand posts behind!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:47:49 PM
Me Thinks that " Kobe" is Mensa intelligent and He is so Anal as in Analytical that he has a hard time coming across - due to the way his mind works.
He is not a Social man, he is man of Science.

And I think NG flusters him, because he is struggling to explain in terms that All can understand his explanations ...
He knows he can't use his normal " Big Words" that would cause her to say " KOBE EXPLAIN so we can understand".
He is sort of stuck in a difficult place I think when Live on her Show.

Then we need Nancy to prosecute this case
Can She still Practice Law or is she Retired?
I do not know..I just wish she could because even Baez would be speachless. I feel she could even get the grandma to talk...I have found that when people get mad they run their mouths as we have seen cindy do on tv many times


Title: Re: TO TOT and others
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 08:49:32 PM
THIS IS TO TOT AND OTHERS WHO THINK I AM TOO HARD ON CINDY.

You may be right!  But I just find so much of Cindy's behavior to be suspect.  For the record, I was spoiled rotten by my grandmother and lived with her for three years.  I had it pretty easy as a child and I haven't murdered anyone.   But one thing is certain, if you talk a young woman into giving birth to a child and then keep her and the child in your home and willingly pay all the bills and spend a lot of time babysitting, etc., you had better be prepared to do it with a smile and not throw it in their faces later. 

It just does not work to play the martyr, and maybe all women or all mothers or all wives feel like martyrs from time to time.  But you cannot tell your children day after day how much you do for them, how much you spend on them, how much they have disappointed you, etc., not if you want to maintain a good relationship with them.  Nobody wants to hear over and over how much someone has sacrificed on their behalf, even if it is true.

I know what it is like to be a young and insecure first-time mom, and I was married.  If my mom, or anyone else, had been telling me that I was inadequate as a mother, much less unfit, I would have felt terrible.  I don't know if I could have coped with constant negative feedback, and something tells me that one of the few truths that Caylee has told is that Cindy often called her an unfit mother and threatened to get full custody of Caylee.

My mother never told me I was an unfit parent.  Nor did she go around telling my friends that I was a pathological liar and a thief.  Those are really harsh, terrible things for a parent to say to a daughter.  NOW Cindy talks about what a great mom Casey was, but it is too late.  We know from the 911 call that she threatened Casey with getting full custody of Caylee the night of the police report.  I don't think for a minute that was her first time to do that.

Yes, Cindy paid for everything, as she mentioned in her little note posted online.  "MY Caylee is missing."  "I paid for everything...fed, clothed, provided shelter, paid for medical bills."  Well, if she wanted to do that, she should not be complaining about it.  Cindy could have made some ground rules for Casey.  And maybe she did.  But she always ended up going right back to her "let mommy take care of it" role.  It seems she would crack down, get mad, make threats, and then start to baby Casey all over again. 

Cindy was inconsistent.  I have said from the beginning that the family dynamics were the root of this tragedy, and I believe that more today than ever.  Cindy wanted to take care of both Casey and Caylee, but she wanted to be worshipped for it, and unfortunately, in that circumstance, the mom is often resented.  Casey took the money and lived at home, but she clearly did not want to be in that situation.

I think both the parents knew that Casey had no job.  I think they both knew she lied and stole from them.  I know they knew she partied too much.  But they let her get away with it for months, cracked down, had big fights, Casey cried and lied some more, they forgave her and gave her more stuff as a reward.  It is just a bad cycle, and I think they were trapped in it.

It is the classic love/hate relationship.  Casey did not "fear" her parents in the traditional sense.  She knew they would not beat her or kick her out.  But she feared their disapproval and most of all, their control and domination over her life.  She feared, I think, that they were right about her...that she was unfit and no good. 

Casey left their home, the place where she was taken care of and did not have to lift a finger, and went out into the night with her child and no job, no good friends who could take care of her, no money, no prospects, no future, as Cindy said in her post.  She must have wanted to get out of there in the worst way.  She literally had no place to go and had tgo sleep of the sofas of friends or maybe even in her car a few times.  Yet she left and had not returned and had no intention of returning until Cindy tracked her down at Tony's.

I know Cindy was worried about Caylee.  I would have been, too.  Cindy says in her online post that she does not know who is "watching out for the little angel now."  That is a clear expression of her anxiety and her doubts that Casey would take proper case of Caylee.  Now, she says she never had such doubts, but her post tells us something different.

This is not the first case of a stressed and immature mother taking the life of her own child and it will not be the last.  It is different in that Casey was able to go out dancing and shopping afterward and pretend it had not happened.  I think Cindy and George loved Caylee and that they love Casey, but Cindy just did not know what to do with Casey.  She could not handle her.  There was resentment on both sides.

That is the way I see it.

Your posts are always so well thought out, Hudsunn.  i wish I could put my feelings into words as well as you do.  I am truly in awe of you and the time that you take to express yourself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 08:51:42 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 08:53:17 PM
OH.. I was also going to ask...
The supposed photo of Zannie, Casey and Caylee that  JB or someone says exists...
Is there a way LE  could issue a subpoena or something like that for the dammmn Picture :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 08:54:20 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 08:54:54 PM
People cover -- Caylee picture -- MOM'S WEB OF LIES. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 08:56:40 PM
O/T Mtnmom...I have not forgotten you, still working on it.

thanks Nut - no hurrys. hope you find more than I ever did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 08:57:23 PM
Interesting thinking here.

But George said in his Aug. 4 LE interview, that he saw Casey leave the house in Cindy's vehicle. He took off after her in his car. He said this was between 5:50-6 PM somewhere between June 24-27.

I searched and searched and couldn't find a time...could you please tell me where that info comes from?  Not because I don't believe you, just because I'd like to read that report.
 
Sounds good - but she would have to be running - due to the fact that she was down south & then back to Amscot area within minutes IIRC. It looks like she went to Hopespring and then to Amscot - was Cindy off work that week?

I used this map: 

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg21/awakening2lite/CAping6272.jpg)

Good point.  If she left Cindy's SUV closer to the Amscot, she might have had time, if she called Tony as she was walking back to Amscot, she could have had 14 minutes knowing she had a few minutes before he would get there.  The average person can walk 1 mile in 20 minutes:

D~11:44 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:47 am Tony L 115 sec
D~11:49 am Unknown Winter Pk 0 sec
D~11:49 am Amy H 0 sec
D~11:51 am Jesse Grund 305 sec
D~11:58 am Amy H 0 sec

But the whole 6PM thing throws a wrench in my theory anyway.  Now I have to go back to thinking Annie met her Amscot in the AM and try to figure it all out again... ::MonkeyConfused::
As far as George stating a time that she took CA's car - it was during his police interview - he said it was either the week of the 24th or the 15th but that it was done around 5:00 - 6:00 pm - she was on the 408 and she either got off at Hiawassee or Kirkland - one of the two but he lost her.


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.456316~-81.298313&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29333224&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Was this a week that GA was between jobs? 

I have wondered this ever since I heard his interview. He says around 5:30-6pm, but he works 3-11, Sun-Th so wouldn't it have to have been Friday the 27th?
Anyone know when she returned the SUV?

I want to see those EZ pass records!!

KCJackie, do you know the answers to this? TIA, your fellow KC monkey

I believe he was working - because he stated in his interview to the police that he didn't usually work fridays - but somewhere in June I believe, he stated that he was called in to work on a Friday.  KC was calling the Lexus dealership where he was working IIRC during this timeframe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 08:57:55 PM
People cover -- Caylee picture -- MOM'S WEB OF LIES. 

When I went to the store today I looked and the new People wasn't on the stand yet.  Maybe on the east coast it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 08:59:38 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!
Well it is nice to know nancy cured that one...They have trying to figure out what causes sids for years...My kids i was told to lay ont here stomaches now they say that is bad..So now we lay them on their backs were if they throw up they can choke and half these kids head are deformed from laying on their back..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 09:00:03 PM
KCJackie - do you know the cross-street on Semoran Blvd. nearest to where you think Red's photographs came from?

I believe Lee Vista & Swissco - from what I can tell the apartment complex is called "Courtney Landing".

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.467295~-81.29842&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3915661&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.467295~-81.29842&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3915661&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 09:00:10 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!

Guess I won't be RSVPing to her Christmas party!!  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 09:01:19 PM
People cover -- Caylee picture -- MOM'S WEB OF LIES. 
What will Cindy Say ? I wonder if Najame is going to get involved  - False misleading information leaks etc
Anything to make a Few extra Bones to Pay for Casey's Court fees
This has not even Started Yet .......... I wonder if Cindy will survive this or even George
If One of them has a Heart Attack or a Mental Breakdown since they are so in Denial. Paid for Denial and or their own within ........That they have put themselves into this position  ~ To Crash.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 09:02:54 PM
People cover -- Caylee picture -- MOM'S WEB OF LIES. 
What will Cindy Say ? I wonder if Najame is going to get involved  - False misleading information leaks etc
Anything to make a Few extra Bones to Pay for Casey's Court fees
This has not even Started Yet .......... I wonder if Cindy will survive this or even George
If One of them has a Heart Attack or a Mental Breakdown since they are so in Denial. Paid for Denial and or their own within ........That they have put themselves into this position  ~ To Crash.
JMO! If the Anthony's except that Caylee is dead the money stops coming and they will have to go back to work...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SS on October 16, 2008, 09:03:05 PM
KCJackie - do you know the cross-street on Semoran Blvd. nearest to where you think Red's photographs came from?

I believe Lee Vista & Swissco - from what I can tell the apartment complex is called "Courtney Landing".

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.467295~-81.29842&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3915661&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.467295~-81.29842&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3915661&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!227&encType=1)



Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 16, 2008, 09:03:20 PM
June 16, Jesse gets a phone call from Casey. A long one. She tells him that Cindy wants her out of the house. The night before, Tony won't respond to her text messages. She has no money , job and doesn't have any friends that she can go and rip off. Think she is stressed  enough to just snap ? I do.
..
Cindy thinks that because she paid the bills for Caylee taht that gave her ownership of the kiddo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 09:04:53 PM
People article has a little timeline, says Casey researched, before the disappearance, missing children and chloroform on her computer---Garrison is quoted as saying the family has credible evidence to suggest that Caylee is still alive but will not disclose it to the public.  He claims the Anthonys have a team of private investigators going after all kinds of tips.  A neighbor claimed that one day a tour bus showed up in front of the Anthony house as if it were just another Orlando attraction.  Picture of Cindy and George in Casey's room staring at a little wall hanging with her picture and a cross on it.  Jesse Grund is quoted as saying he found it hard to believe Casey would intentionally kill Caylee but that sometimes she did leave her unintended in one room while she was in another.  He also said Caylee had a habit of putting rocks in her mouth.  There is a lamp that has little Pooh characters hanging from it...I suppose it is in Casey's room.  Nothing new in the article.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: grandma4 on October 16, 2008, 09:06:16 PM
was the lady who seen someone that looked like Casey the person who saw Casey with the shovel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

This map is for the 30th - the 1st night Tony was in NY and she said she was at Amy's - but she never made it there.  Look at #11 - I'm wondering about that area too and the time of day she seemed to be there.

SS - I don't know if you have seen this - but I would like your take on it if you have a chance to look. - TIA Jackie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 09:07:20 PM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 


Title: Re: TO TOT and others
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:07:35 PM
THIS IS TO TOT AND OTHERS WHO THINK I AM TOO HARD ON CINDY.

It is the classic love/hate relationship.  Casey did not "fear" her parents in the traditional sense.  She knew they would not beat her or kick her out.  But she feared their disapproval and most of all, their control and domination over her life.  She feared, I think, that they were right about her...that she was unfit and no good. 


Your posts are always so well thought out, Hudsunn.  i wish I could put my feelings into words as well as you do.  I am truly in awe of you and the time that you take to express yourself.


 ::MonkeyDance::Bravo !!!!!!!!! I think the part above , is so true also because she did not cry for Caylee , she cried when her dad was on the stand talking about her , and again when Biaz sad she was someones daughter . NO tears for Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Witness who claims to have seen Casey with straw hat, shovel etc:

Video:


http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseySighting1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseySighting2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:09:50 PM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 

Anything else new in the article?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:10:26 PM
OH.. I was also going to ask...
The supposed photo of Zannie, Casey and Caylee that  JB or someone says exists...
Is there a way LE  could issue a subpoena or something like that for the dammmn Picture :gaah:

They have never seen the picture it is hearsay, they said they search for someone who had the pic and sent someone out to investigate and they had been looking for this person for a long time.


Who is paying for KC defense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 09:11:12 PM
Was said on an Interview today on CNN with DA from another area -
He said that Baez will have to come up with Min 35 to 50k just to pay the Witnesses to present in Court.
Forensic Witnesses etc..........  and then What? What will he will do with them - He is clueless.

Him not being Qualified according to the Bar to provide proper Legal representation in this Case -

Was said that if " Casey" claims indigent then Tax payers will take the Hit 100 percent for this case
AND if she does willingly except - Baez as her Atty
Baez will have to release all of his Financial Records to the Public ( including who has been paying him from Day one that he took on Casey's Case)

So who do you think will Replace Him?
Or does he have something in the Works such at (secured) Book deal ...yadda that is unknown ...so he will Bank this Case on CREDIT ...to pay everyone at a later date.

Nothing would surprise anyone at this point  ::MonkeyConfused::



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:11:25 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Destiny on October 16, 2008, 09:11:36 PM
Cya - later........Des...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
OH.. I was also going to ask...
The supposed photo of Zannie, Casey and Caylee that  JB or someone says exists...
Is there a way LE  could issue a subpoena or something like that for the dammmn Picture :gaah:

They have never seen the picture it is hearsay, they said they search for someone who had the pic and sent someone out to investigate and they had been looking for this person for a long time.


Who is paying for KC defense?
I think its just more attempts at ruffling up some reasonable doubt.

Walter your little Bulldog is cute.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 09:14:11 PM
Could she have been wearing a straw type cowboy hat?  I have seen girls her age wearing them in the summertime.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Jennibear8682 on October 16, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
:smt006 Monkeys  Good evening to all.

I need to go back and try speed reading to get caught up   but wanted to drop this off
and hope is gets bumped along at times 
 
Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

TIA




Hi all!  I've been reading the board for a while now, though this is my first post. 

I am in Ouachita Parish...less than an hour and a half from Shreveport.  I will check it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: guideposts on October 16, 2008, 09:14:44 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.

I believe there is a photo of Casey with four of her friends.  They are wearing 'wife beater' shirts with their names on the back and 'beer wench' on the front.  I'll look to see if I find it.
~Guideposts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!
Well it is nice to know nancy cured that one...They have trying to figure out what causes sids for years...My kids i was told to lay ont here stomaches now they say that is bad..So now we lay them on their backs were if they throw up they can choke and half these kids head are deformed from laying on their back..

The thing that is so stupid about that is the people coming in bringing all the germs would be so much worse than the smell of smoke to her kids.  The smoke is the worst when its from a burning cigarette.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 09:16:16 PM
People cover -- Caylee picture -- MOM'S WEB OF LIES. 
What will Cindy Say ? I wonder if Najame is going to get involved  - False misleading information leaks etc
Anything to make a Few extra Bones to Pay for Casey's Court fees
This has not even Started Yet .......... I wonder if Cindy will survive this or even George
If One of them has a Heart Attack or a Mental Breakdown since they are so in Denial. Paid for Denial and or their own within ........That they have put themselves into this position  ~ To Crash.

Oh yeah, I agree!  I think the public has been watching both George and Cindy in their own versions of a mental breakdown since the beginning.  We're shocked, stunned, outraged at the things the Anthonys say and do.  And yet, it's so sad, all of it, it really is.  My heart went out to them at first.  My 3 sons are in their mid to late 20's, and all I could think was - but for the grace of God, there go I.  Just couldn't imagine what it would be like to be in their shoes, with their child possibly having done this to her child.  It just boggles the mind.  My sympathy for the Anthonys came and went as they seemed to be heading for a complete meltdown, and all in public view 24x7.  At times I feel that way, yet because they do seem to have brought much down on themselves, most of the time I just sit back shaking my head.  What we are seeing isn't pretty.  I do wish for their sakes that a family member, friend, neighbor, heck even the mailman, SOMEONE in there life would just grab them both and drag them inside and help them to understand that they can and need to grieve in private.  sigh. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:16:22 PM
was the lady who seen someone that looked like Casey the person who saw Casey with the shovel

Where would she get a shovel ? The nieghbor said she had that one for only about an hour . Is there reciepts showing a shovel?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 09:17:28 PM
I had not heard that Jesse said Caylee had a habit of picking up rocks and putting them in her mouth.  He also says that if Caylee died by accident, he could see Casey having a complete breakdown.  I think Jesse still loves Casey in a way.  They say that the Anthonys have a team of private investigators, and I am not sure that is true.  Jesse says sometimes Casey would go outside to use the telephone and leave Caylee in the living room.  I am not sure where he is going with that, except to say that maybe Caylee had an accident while Casey was out of the room or the house.  It mentions a tip about a white car being parked in an area near the airport and a woman seen coming out of the woods.  LE is following up on all such tips.  Garrison mentioned a tip about Caylee being seen traveling by plane with a man from N.C. to St. Louis.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 

Wonder how much BLOOD MONEY People Magazine paid the subhuman A couple?

It's all about the money, from day one!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:19:11 PM
I had not heard that Jesse said Caylee had a habit of picking up rocks and putting them in her mouth.  He also says that if Caylee died by accident, he could see Casey having a complete breakdown.  I think Jesse still loves Casey in a way.  They say that the Anthonys have a team of private investigators, and I am not sure that is true.  Jesse says sometimes Casey would go outside to use the telephone and leave Caylee in the living room.  I am not sure where he is going with that, except to say that maybe Caylee had an accident while Casey was out of the room or the house.  It mentions a tip about a white car being parked in an area near the airport and a woman seen coming out of the woods.  LE is following up on all such tips.  Garrison mentioned a tip about Caylee being seen traveling by plane with a man from N.C. to St. Louis.

Cindy has been mentioning in her interviews lately stuff about a PI.  George also mentioned the PI the other day in an interview.  I dont know if i can believe it.  They lie about everything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 16, 2008, 09:19:39 PM
Richard Grund :

"He is the Founder and Director of SRT the Supernatural Response Team, a Chrisitian paranormal investigations and response team."

I would feel better if he was a traditonal minister and hadn't belonged to a cult for 30 years.

...

I believe in the devil. Seriously I do. Think the devil has been in Orlando alot recently.
I saw the devil with a blue dress on. At Fusion.
..
Maybe of we thought of domestic abuse, the usual cookie cutter theme, the cycle of abuse, the apology, the promises to never do it again, the giving of another chance, the escalation until another episode. Then apply this to Cindy and Casey. It fits. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:19:56 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:20:04 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.
Most Trunks have a standard Carpet that lines as a liner - That car not being a newer model and more than likely not the " more expensive upgraded model year" of a Sunfire.
I have a 98 Chrysler Convertible and my Carpet is a felt like compressed commercial CHEAP Crap ... material. I had a leak (heavy rain) small tear in my soft top and everything soaked thru - right through. I had to Wet Vac it. I have my boot/bra in my trunk as well. The previous owner never used it and its still in thick Visqueen plastic contained in my trunk. Even it taking up most of the bed of the trunk sealed in heavy plastic - the water still went around it and soaked everything -
BUT since it was closed and no air was allowed in - it continued to stay completely saturated. The only part of the carpet I believe that DOES have a rubber back - " Is on top of the Cover that holds my Spare Tire" - the rest has no rubber back. Hope this helps.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:21:49 PM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder.


Isnt that special.....gag!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:21:53 PM


They have never seen the picture it is hearsay, they said they search for someone who had the pic and sent someone out to investigate and they had been looking for this person for a long time.


Who is paying for KC defense?
[/quote]I think its just more attempts at ruffling up some reasonable doubt.

Walter your little Bulldog is cute.
[/quote] Thats WALTER!!!!! My baby and I have another Lucy will add her later OT sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SS on October 16, 2008, 09:23:29 PM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.450581~-81.161156&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17644275&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

This map is for the 30th - the 1st night Tony was in NY and she said she was at Amy's - but she never made it there.  Look at #11 - I'm wondering about that area too and the time of day she seemed to be there.

SS - I don't know if you have seen this - but I would like your take on it if you have a chance to look. - TIA Jackie



I don't know, but it's certainly possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 16, 2008, 09:24:03 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


daaaaaaaaaaaaang girlfriend ..you are GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
Jennibear8682
 ::MonkeyDance::
I'm still a few pages back... pant.. pant  ...   on getting caught up... please stick around for a bit....

Thanks
Oldf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:24:20 PM
I saw the devil with a blue dress on. At Fusion.  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:25:04 PM
I saw the devil with a blue dress on. At Fusion.  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

HAHAHAHAHA!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 09:25:08 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


daaaaaaaaaaaaang girlfriend ..you are GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
I agree!  Now can you pull out a straw hat..and maybe a rabbit out of that?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:25:43 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.

Good question - I know that I have a 2000 Lexus (it has two layers before spare tire - with rubber like backing), 2004 corvette - just that hard carpet, daughter has a 2004 grandam (with carpet only then metal).  I had a 93 Pontiac Grandam and it was hard carpet too - no rubber backing.  Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 09:26:09 PM
JMO 
but I think Kobie   will question the science behind the "Air Sampling"   
Just like they questioned Finger Prints, Blood type,   DNA   science


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:26:38 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


daaaaaaaaaaaaang girlfriend ..you are GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!


I wonder why Casey hasnt been wearing those lately.  She gets a kick out of showing off her sunglasses that she wore or bought while committing a crime.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 09:27:01 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)

Klaas - Here are More Pics - With Annie at Cowboys

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
was the lady who seen someone that looked like Casey the person who saw Casey with the shovel

hi grandma, welcome to the monkey cage!   ::MonkeyDance::

in answer to your question, no, i don't think so.  have heard that there was a woman who saw someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods, then just recently have heard that there was a man who saw someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods with a shovel.  could be that several people saw casey at about the same time/day, or maybe saw her on seperate days if it's true that she may have moved caylee's body a few times.  sad. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
Did anyone hear Richard Grund talk about maybe a fake kidnapping plot by Casey ?
He said Rob Dick would know more about it ! Wazzup with these ppl ? Ok so it was a fake kidnapping plot, where did the dead smell come from ? Help me not get on a plane and snap someone's neck ! WTF are these ppl talking about ! ! !
I am so pissed as to ppl speculating and becoming Ciniy-izzled.
Just maybe shut yer cake hole when :
a. ) You haven't had any contact with Casey for more than a year
b.) You referred to her as a Monster
c.) you don't any more than I do about her " state of mind "
And furthermore, if it was a fake plot and someone supplied a dead body to drag around, who would that be ? Any cops we know were asked to leave the OCSD ?
And if you know so much about what she would do or not do, please use your powers, suPernatural of course and tell us WHERE IS CAYLE TONIGHT !



Kat... I took it as he was inferring that it was a fake kidnapping gone wrong, and something tragic happened to Caylee...Just my take on it....
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 16, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

OT Orchidwmn - did you say your were in Indep?  If you are small world, I'm in BS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SS on October 16, 2008, 09:28:54 PM
was the lady who seen someone that looked like Casey the person who saw Casey with the shovel

Where would she get a shovel ? The nieghbor said she had that one for only about an hour . Is there reciepts showing a shovel?



Red's shovel that he photographed during the TES search.  She could have bought another shovel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 09:29:16 PM
Has anyone found a picture of Casey in a straw hat? Just wondering, too me she doesn't look like a "straw hat" kinda girl. Straw hats where I live are for "older" women, like my mom (59). Unless Casey was trying to change her appearance, I don't see her wearing one. Straw hats aren't sexy in her mind, but who knows, I'm not as crazy as she is.

I believe there is a photo of Casey with four of her friends.  They are wearing 'wife beater' shirts with their names on the back and 'beer wench' on the front.  I'll look to see if I find it.
~Guideposts
I think this guy is full of it and on the other hand i believe i have see this picture of casey..Seems to me it was with her friends being goofy..That is probley where this guy got  it from to..I will keep looking for it though


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 09:30:02 PM
JMO 
but I think Kobie   will question the science behind the "Air Sampling"   
Just like they questioned Finger Prints, Blood type,   DNA   science

Yep OF.... that is exactly what they hired him to do........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bikerbev on October 16, 2008, 09:30:05 PM
Hi Monkeys...I'm now in a campground in Indiana...the last couple of campgrounds I picked to stay at have not had internet service and I've been so behind on the boards.  Tonight I finally got service and I've finished watching some of the videos from the past few days.  It's so nice to get caught up.  I watched Cindy's interview on the Today Show especially when she held up that Disney dress.  Well, my first thought about that is first, when she moves the dress the paper under the dress cringles..you can hear it.  Secondly, the dress looks brand new like its never been worn and thirdly it's still on a store hanger.  When I bought clothes for my kids I would bring them home and immediately either wash them or get rid of that nasty store hanger and hang the clothes on my own hangers.  Personally, I think Cindy bought that dress right before she went on that show.  I thought George had done an interview, too, but I'm still looking for that one.  I heard tonight KC is in jail under protection which means she is still not in general population.  I think she needs to be among the inmates so she can really see what prison life is like.  She doesn't have any idea yet, although living in a cell 8 x 10 or whatever it is now isn't my idea of fun.  It's been hard not being able to express an opinion all these days.  Hopefully, I'll be able to keep up with everyone and things now.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)

Klaas - Here are More Pics - With Annie at Cowboys

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar

what's with the shamrock obsession?  she's got one hanging from the rear view mirror on the last pic in the link above....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 09:32:02 PM

Hi all!  I've been reading the board for a while now, though this is my first post. 

I am in Ouachita Parish...less than an hour and a half from Shreveport.  I will check it out.

Hi Jennibear, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 09:32:57 PM
Have you guys seen this pic? I found it while looking at pic's of casey

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/casey anthony" target="_blank"><img src="http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq252/EZvegas/CaseyAnthony/Squirrel03.jpg" border="0" alt="Squirrel One Pictures, Images and Photos"></a>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 09:33:30 PM
Have you guys seen this pic? I found it while looking at pic's of casey

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/casey anthony" target="_blank"><img src="http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq252/EZvegas/CaseyAnthony/Squirrel03.jpg" border="0" alt="Squirrel One Pictures, Images and Photos"></a>
Oh Man! I can't get it on here....sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 09:33:50 PM
Hi Monkeys...I'm now in a campground in Indiana...the last couple of campgrounds I picked to stay at have not had internet service and I've been so behind on the boards.  Tonight I finally got service and I've finished watching some of the videos from the past few days.  It's so nice to get caught up.  I watched Cindy's interview on the Today Show especially when she held up that Disney dress.  Well, my first thought about that is first, when she moves the dress the paper under the dress cringles..you can hear it.  Secondly, the dress looks brand new like its never been worn and thirdly it's still on a store hanger.  When I bought clothes for my kids I would bring them home and immediately either wash them or get rid of that nasty store hanger and hang the clothes on my own hangers.  Personally, I think Cindy bought that dress right before she went on that show.  I thought George had done an interview, too, but I'm still looking for that one.  I heard tonight KC is in jail under protection which means she is still not in general population.  I think she needs to be among the inmates so she can really see what prison life is like.  She doesn't have any idea yet, although living in a cell 8 x 10 or whatever it is now isn't my idea of fun.  It's been hard not being able to express an opinion all these days.  Hopefully, I'll be able to keep up with everyone and things now.   ::MonkeyDance::


Hey Bev!!!!The dress looked new to me too...I agree about the hanger and the washing too... :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:35:02 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 09:35:50 PM
Janet wrote:
"Why could Cindy's credit card and cell records not be obtained by LE?"



Rgar's a very good question Janet!!! Wasn't it said somewhere that she hasn't turned over some credit card purchase receipts from JCP or somewhere like that? Seeing how Casey used her cards all the time,wouldn't that be a real good place to look?Casey had no job or money of her own as far as we know so....(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/5.gif)


Considering Casey Anthony ... the main suspect ... used her mother's credit cards should be a good legal reason that Cindy Anthony's statement could be subpoena.  After all ... justice for Caylee Marie is what it is all about.

Janet

++++++

Cindy Anthony Talks To Investigators About Zanny, Caylee In Newly Released Interview
POSTED: 4:35 pm EDT September 26, 2008
UPDATED: 10:30 pm EDT September 28, 2008


But detective Yuri Melich confronted Cindy about withholding evidence that could lead to Caylee.

"I asked you for your credit card records. I still don't have it," Melich said.

"I gave you receipts," Cindy replied.

"You can't hold it back," Melich said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17567283/detail.html


Transcript of First 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony 
Last Edited: Friday, 25 Jul 2008, 1:06 PM EDT 
Created: Friday, 25 Jul 2008, 1:06 PM EDT
 

Operator: Where did they steal it from?

Cindy Anthony: Um, my car and also money

<snipped>

Cindy Anthony: No. My car was stolen.  We've retrived it, today we found out where it was at. We've retrieved it, I've got that. And I've got affidavits from my banking account. I want to bring her in. I want to press charges.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=871E61F27E081D3BD1B0E55372563934?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:36:58 PM
OK, sick as this is, I have been doing research on Pontiac Sunfire trunk carpet, load area etc. I have not been successful in determining if this is a vinyl/rubber/latex backed carpet or not.  I can only find that it is carpeted.

My car (not a Sunfire) has a rubberized backing because it is meant to be lifted up, and there is a cargo area underneath for storing small items.

Does anyone have any details about this type of car? ::MonkeyConfused::

My thought, as disgusting as it is, is the possibility that maybe some of the body fluids could have soaked through and were in the underneath part of the trunk.

I would think even if KC was cleaning up she wouldn't clean under the carpet.
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

OT Orchidwmn - did you say your were in Indep?  If you are small world, I'm in BS.

Yep on the Indep/LS border. We are very close!!!!  Sorry to be OT, but we are neighbors!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 09:37:19 PM
New witness sighting:

I don't know but if I was trying to look inconspicuous, a big straw hat and red sunglasses would not be my choice of garb.  Almost makes me think this guy is on the Anthony payroll to try and discredit the other Casey sightings.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sam on October 16, 2008, 09:37:25 PM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!
Well it is nice to know nancy cured that one...They have trying to figure out what causes sids for years...My kids i was told to lay ont here stomaches now they say that is bad..So now we lay them on their backs were if they throw up they can choke and half these kids head are deformed from laying on their back..

Lol at your post. I too was a Dr. Spock follower and first child slept on stomach second child was 6 years later. I did not know times had changed and now they recommended sleeping on the back.Well son would not sleep on stomach just cried and cried but as soon as I would turn him on his back he would raise his arms above his head and go to sleep instantly. I was so tired I just gave in. Later found it was the reccomended way. Now they are suggesting an overhead fan on low to disperse the carbon dioxide infants are breathing out. Says it reduces SIDS.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 16, 2008, 09:37:38 PM
Wonder if the family could sell Casey's sunglasses on eBay?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
Jennibear8682

Not sure if you are still around....  Sorry I should have stopped reading to semi catch up 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 09:39:11 PM
Wonder if the family could sell Casey's sunglasses on eBay?



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 16, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
was the lady who seen someone that looked like Casey the person who saw Casey with the shovel

hi grandma, welcome to the monkey cage!   ::MonkeyDance::

in answer to your question, no, i don't think so.  have heard that there was a woman who saw someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods, then just recently have heard that there was a man who saw someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods with a shovel.  could be that several people saw casey at about the same time/day, or maybe saw her on seperate days if it's true that she may have moved caylee's body a few times.  sad. 


The video said that one was a woman and the other is a man, but it did state at the end that both sighting were in the same area around the same time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 16, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


Does anyone remimber when these pictures were taken?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 16, 2008, 09:42:40 PM
Did anyone hear Richard Grund talk about maybe a fake kidnapping plot by Casey ?
He said Rob Dick would know more about it ! Wazzup with these ppl ? Ok so it was a fake kidnapping plot, where did the dead smell come from ? Help me not get on a plane and snap someone's neck ! WTF are these ppl talking about ! ! !
I am so pissed as to ppl speculating and becoming Ciniy-izzled.
Just maybe shut yer cake hole when :
a. ) You haven't had any contact with Casey for more than a year
b.) You referred to her as a Monster
c.) you don't any more than I do about her " state of mind "
And furthermore, if it was a fake plot and someone supplied a dead body to drag around, who would that be ? Any cops we know were asked to leave the OCSD ?
And if you know so much about what she would do or not do, please use your powers, suPernatural of course and tell us WHERE IS CAYLE TONIGHT !



Kat... I took it as he was inferring that it was a fake kidnapping gone wrong, and something tragic happened to Caylee...Just my take on it....
 ::MonkeyConfused::
Well, I don't know I feel that there is a level of insanity here and we ( most normal folks ) are being asked to believe this absolute crap. From Baez to Cindy and then to have Richard Grund
sticking in  more maybes is a bit much. I usually try to deal in fact. Not that I don't believe
in God or religion, but I am just too mad at the nonsense. I live here in Canada where we would not hear a word until the trial and the defendants do not get to go on TV and spout this nonsense or any type of nonsense. And the other side doesn't get to say a word either.
LE can't say anything right now. But they have said quite a bit with the indictment.
... 
ps Mark Geragous or wahtever his name is said the Peterson trial cost one million. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 09:42:55 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 09:43:49 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?
[/quote]

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::
[/quote]

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:44:26 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)


Does anyone remimber when these pictures were taken?

Per Doc Stoc:  Casey Anthony Party Photos Partying at Cowboys with Sean Daly Prior to Caylee Anthony’s Disappearance Visit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 09:45:38 PM
Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400

Reverse phone number listing:

Aim Productions & Management
118 16th Ave S, Nashville, TN 37203-3100, United States (Map)

Phone: (615) 254-1400

SIC:Theatrical Producers (Except Motion Picture) and Miscellaneous Theatrical Services

Line of Business:Theatrical Producers/Services
Est. Annual Sales:$96,000

Est. Employees:2

Est. Employees at Location:2


2 employees? LOL


Now that I see this it was posted here a couple months ago I think.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Klaas ... do you have a date of this release?

Thanks

Janet
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 09:45:40 PM
Witness said Casey was wearing red sunglasses and a straw hat:

red sunglasses


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyRedSunglasses.jpg)
IDK.. I do want to bring up an old question on her nails being done after caylee went missing.. Looking at her nails she could of had false ones on when she disposed of caylee..Look at the pic of her nails when she is at fusion with tony..If this is true those fake nails could have had some evidence on them and under them...


Does anyone remimber when these pictures were taken?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dejasade on October 16, 2008, 09:46:39 PM
there are folks on ebay selling the caseyanthony domain name....



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 09:47:55 PM
Video report of witness who says he saw Casey....

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 09:48:12 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I had said earlier, the baseball cap says "show me your shamrocks". You can buy hats, t-shirts etc. with that slogan. I'd bet there is an Irish Pub they go and party at.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 09:49:49 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.

I just asked my son if it had any meaning to folks his age.  He is 25, just moved back here from Tampa.  He looked at me with a blank look on his face, then said, "luck?"   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 09:49:58 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I had said earlier, the baseball cap says "show me your shamrocks". You can buy hats, t-shirts etc. with that slogan. I'd bet there is an Irish Pub they go and party at.
Yes, but she is obsessed with the shamrock.  She has the sticker on the back of her Pontiac, she has a lanyard hanging from her rear view mirror, and she wears one around her neck.  I am leaning toward it being part of her herritage, the part she wants to embrace since Irish are associated with "heavy drinkers".  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:51:26 PM
Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400

Reverse phone number listing:

Aim Productions & Management
118 16th Ave S, Nashville, TN 37203-3100, United States (Map)

Phone: (615) 254-1400

SIC:Theatrical Producers (Except Motion Picture) and Miscellaneous Theatrical Services

Line of Business:Theatrical Producers/Services
Est. Annual Sales:$96,000

Est. Employees:2

Est. Employees at Location:2


2 employees? LOL


Now that I see this it was posted here a couple months ago I think.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Klaas ... do you have a date of this release?

Thanks

Janet
 

Looks like it was September 5, 2008

http://myfloridaroundtable.com/blog/?p=325


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Jennibear8682 on October 16, 2008, 09:52:36 PM
Jennibear8682

Not sure if you are still around....  Sorry I should have stopped reading to semi catch up 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:54:23 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I had said earlier, the baseball cap says "show me your shamrocks". You can buy hats, t-shirts etc. with that slogan. I'd bet there is an Irish Pub they go and party at.
Yes, but she is obsessed with the shamrock.  She has the sticker on the back of her Pontiac, she has a lanyard hanging from her rear view mirror, and she wears one around her neck.  I am leaning toward it being part of her herritage, the part she wants to embrace since Irish are associated with "heavy drinkers".  IMO

I believe her Myspace, Webshots and some other sites were listed under the name CaseyOMarie.  Seems like she liked people to think she was Irish or is Irish.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
Welcome Jennibear!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 09:56:25 PM

Destiny - here's another phone number for your book, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
Text version of the press release:

Email: Presscorpsmedia@aol.com

Immediate Release

Caylee Anthony -- Missing Child

It has come to the attention of the Baez Law Firm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is claiming the possibility of reinstating a bond he previously withdrew. Though Jose Baez and his client, Casey Anthony appreciated what Mr. Padilla initially did, his later unjustified retreat has clearly demonstrated that he cannot be trusted, and Mr. Baez, nor Ms. Anthony will work with Mr. Padilla on her case ever again. Mr. Padilla is simply milking media time under the pretense of re-posting a bond, which offer is rejected.

The Baez Law Firm is wholly supportive of Casey Anthony's parents retaining legal counsel of their own, however, that will have absolutely no bearing on Casey's court matters. Not only Ms. Anthony's rights were trampled, but so have the rights 'and property of her parents been violated , and the parents' attorney can attend to those issues without interfering with the important focus of finding Caylee and defending any charges against Casey .

The Baez Law Firm has been successful in its efforts to put a highly creditable and respected team of experts together, which announcement will be made at the appropriate time, and until then Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT.

Press Corps Media has been retained by The Baez Law Firm to coordinate any and all media inquiries, allowing Mr, Baez and his staff to attend to the more vital matters of defending Ms. Anthony.

Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have NO COMMENT about the bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party.

Please only contact: Todd Black

Press Corps Media
(615) 254-1400

Reverse phone number listing:

Aim Productions & Management
118 16th Ave S, Nashville, TN 37203-3100, United States (Map)

Phone: (615) 254-1400

SIC:Theatrical Producers (Except Motion Picture) and Miscellaneous Theatrical Services

Line of Business:Theatrical Producers/Services
Est. Annual Sales:$96,000

Est. Employees:2

Est. Employees at Location:2


2 employees? LOL


Now that I see this it was posted here a couple months ago I think.

 


right - I posted it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 09:56:43 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 09:57:36 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)
I was thinking the Same thing - that possibly it was Sports Related
I know that Casey was a Football Fan from reading anyway
Ohio State photos and all - But Yes I agree she is obsessed with Shamrocks.
That one photo though that has Caylee with her tshirt stuffed * boobies* wearing the Shamrock Shirt ..
What Mom would Do that ARRRR She was so Little ... I mean Yah it would be funny if She Was Older and it was a Joke .... Oye.  I just wonder when the obsession of Shamrocks started and why - They are Everywhere within Casey's belongings. Even on the back of Car Window to her Bum.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)

(Quoting myself)
Interesting Ken Shamrock fought a guy named Vader in the WWF as well....
Isn't Lee obsessed with Vader (Vader-1)?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 09:58:59 PM
Ive gotta go start dinner.  Does a fried bolonga sandwich constitue a hot meal?????  BBL>

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not if you want to maintain that Size 1 figure and ... do that black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and justice.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 09:59:06 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dana on October 16, 2008, 09:59:27 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html

I hope what Leonard said on the show tonights comes true, it would be a great help for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:01:49 PM
Well the shamrocks didnt work for Casey...looks like her luck just ran out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:02:24 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

We already have this posted in a photo thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:02:33 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL

Mine is Halloween too!!
Must be b/c it is close to our bdays  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:02:43 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL
Yes that is my most fav...its my B-day too! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:03:49 PM
This guy on the right is also from Nashville. He's the attorney that set up Black's company. His name is Bruce Phillips.

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/brucehphillips1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Deadly women is on DiscoveryHD...Diane Downs is the first woman covered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:04:23 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html

I hope what Leonard said on the show tonights comes true, it would be a great help for sure.


What did he say I missed it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dana on October 16, 2008, 10:04:36 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html

I hope what Leonard said on the show tonights comes true, it would be a great help for sure.


for those of you that missed leonards announcement on my show tonight it will be available later for downlaod on the main or radio page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

They look like they're in the mafia...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL
Yes that is my most fav...its my B-day too! LOL

Awe..lucky!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 10:05:30 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.

Howdy!!  Your post made me think of an article that was posted a while back.  It's from the dailybs and the author says that the four leaf clover that case wears as a tattoo might have something to do with a gang affiliation.  I don't know how credible the source is . . . but it does seem sometimes like Case was a tough girl wanna be (remember all the pics with the backwards peace sign).  Anyhow, here's the link:

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1135 (http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1135)

I've never posted a link so I hope this works (obviously I'm a newbie).

P.S.  Did you have to call Roto Rooter to get the kids back from the big flush?  He he!!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:05:56 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

Is it the lack of emotion on the faces?

Or the overabundance of hands on thighs??? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Jennibear8682 on October 16, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
Thanks Klaas!  I've been following this board for months now, but I never really have much to add.  It takes me several hours every evening to catch up on the posts in one day!


Something I should add though.  My Uncle owns a chain of pizza houses here in Louisiana.  I've grown up around pizza and have even managed several of his locations throughout the past 8 years.  I'm sure that you all know this by now...but I just want to say that I know without a doubt in my mind that that wasn't pizza making KC's car smell like a dead body.  Pizza doesn't smell when it goes bad.  Example- We sell pizzas on location at events around Louisiana.  We use warming cabinets to keep it warm.  There have been times when we thought we had removed all of the pizzas and maybe forgotten one in the back, and placed it in one of our storage areas that aren't air conditioned for two, three, four weeks during the hot Louisiana summer.  I have NEVER smelled old pizza that in any way reminded me of anything dead.  It just smells like pizza. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:06:29 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17726847/detail.html

Mysterious PR Man Backtracks On Comment That Caylee Anthony Is Dead

POSTED: 6:31 am EDT October 16, 2008
UPDATED: 6:22 pm EDT October 16, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team is backtracking after they finally admitted, on national TV, that Casey's daughter Caylee is dead.



"This is a very serious case, involving not just the loss of the life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony," Todd Black said on CNN Wednesday night (Hear It All).

Black is Casey's attorney's spokesman. Not only is he trying to take back his words, so is the attorney and Casey's family.

Todd Black, the spokesperson for Casey Anthony's legal team, admitted on national television late Wednesday that Caylee Anthony is dead. Eyewitness News reached Black by phone Thursday and he denied that is what he meant. He insisted the Baez legal team is confident Caylee is just missing and Casey had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"I did not say that on national television. I responded to what someone else said," Black told Eyewitness News (full interview).

He scrambled for more than five minutes during the call, coming up with different excuses and explanations about what he meant by the comment. But, the bottom line is, he admitted what investigators have long said.

George Anthony brushed it off Thursday morning before he hit the road to drive around the billboard with his granddaughter's picture on it, because he still believes she's alive.

"I don't know why someone would say something like that when everything is circumstantial," George said.

A spokesperson for George and Cindy Anthony called the statement made by Todd Black, someone who's supposed to be on Casey's side, inappropriate.

"If he said something like that and that's what he meant then he shouldn't be representing, working for, Jose Baez because that's an inappropriate statement," said Larry Garrison, Anthony family spokesperson.

The family told Eyewitness News they are even setting up a new tip line that should be ready by Thursday night or Friday. Volunteers from all over the country will help.


WHO IS TODD BLACK?

Eyewitness News has been doing some digging to try to find out exactly who Todd Black is, but he doesn't have a professional track record or paper trail. He works for Press Corps Media. The company claims to have more than 200 employees and an $11 million profit margin, but Press Corps Media doesn't even have a website.

Todd Black has never appeared on camera, only doing interviews over the phone.


Well ... I do not think this guy will be working for Press Corps Media much longer ... he is a joke.  Jose Baez articulates the spin regarding Casey being innocent and ... Caylee being alive ... much more professionally.

Consider this a first ... I have never upheld Jose Baez.  I do believe I gave him back handed compliment.

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 16, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL
Yes that is my most fav...its my B-day too! LOL
mine is the 30th (Halloween Eve)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:06:53 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)



It takes more muscles to frown than to smile.  Someones not happy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:07:03 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)
That makes two of us.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:07:07 PM
Deadly women is on DiscoveryHD...Diane Downs is the first woman covered.


Wish my son would let me watch it.....Diane Downs reminds me alot of Casey....Oh well....son and friends are watching a movie with Matthew McConnaughey....he has his shirt of....... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 10:07:12 PM
Jennibear8682

Not sure if you are still around....  Sorry I should have stopped reading to semi catch up 
Pant  Huff Puff Pant
Welcome to Scared Monkey !   Jump on in... and please post something to Carolyn in one the threads I posted...
Thanks
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/db212351.gif)
I posted to Carolyn over there.  I will start reading over there also.  Thanks Oldfart.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/98c2d476.jpg)  Jennibear8682   If you need me to get you in contact with Carolyn  Please let me know   over there 
thanks again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 10:07:44 PM
Well the shamrocks didnt work for Casey...looks like her luck just ran out.
I looked up Cindy's maiden Name Plesea and I am coming up with Romanian
Grand Papa does look Slavic to me ... Jmo. I am Hungarian ... Possibly their is Irish Cindy's Mom?
Anthony surname comes up Latin, Roman



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:07:51 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I must be demented...mine is Halloween!  LOL
Yes that is my most fav...its my B-day too! LOL
mine is the 30th (Halloween Eve)
That's my mom's... great people born on that day!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:08:34 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html

I hope what Leonard said on the show tonights comes true, it would be a great help for sure.


for those of you that missed leonards announcement on my show tonight it will be available later for downlaod on the main or radio page



Damn Dana! I missed the whole show.... stoopid laundry..... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:08:55 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:09:34 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

There is a photo here?

All I can see are SIX GIANT EYEBROWS!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::
[/quote]

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
[/quote]

I think the basics, like what type quality of carpet, I am assuming from all the other posts, probably cheap. Any kind of backing?

What is underneath it? Spare tire, storage etc? 

Then maybe a little SM unscientific research like, if you pour a 1/2 cup water on the carpet and leave it for 1/2 hour does it soak all the way through? Is there any evidence of moisture on whatever is under the carpet?   ::MonkeyConfused::

Now you can be just like Lee and do your own detective work! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think the results and photos would be interesting to us all though, and I thank you very much for your time and assistance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet


HEHEHEHE....SEE NO EVIL....HEAR NO EVIL.....SPEAK NO EVIL..... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 10:09:55 PM
Anthony is from the Roman family name Antonius. Commonly shortened to "Tony" in the English speaking world, Anthony is one of the most common male names in the U.S., Canada, Great Britain, and Australia.

Saint Anthony the Great was the father of Christian monasticism, and is invoked against skin complaints (including "St Anthony's fire"). Saint Anthony of Padua is a Doctor of the Church, and is called upon to help locate lost items.

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Anthony.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:10:31 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... your adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html

I hope what Leonard said on the show tonights comes true, it would be a great help for sure.


for those of you that missed leonards announcement on my show tonight it will be available later for downlaod on the main or radio page


Dana ... I missed it.  Please share.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:10:41 PM
Deadly women is on DiscoveryHD...Diane Downs is the first woman covered.


Wish my son would let me watch it.....Diane Downs reminds me alot of Casey....Oh well....son and friends are watching a movie with Matthew McConnaughey....he has his shirt of....... ::MonkeyWink::

I cant get Farah Fawcett out of my head tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 16, 2008, 10:11:27 PM
Deadly women is on DiscoveryHD...Diane Downs is the first woman covered.


Wish my son would let me watch it.....Diane Downs reminds me alot of Casey....Oh well....son and friends are watching a movie with Matthew McConnaughey....he has his shirt of....... ::MonkeyWink::
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

He is 10 trillion times hotter than that disgusting photo of Larry Garrison we've seen.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:11:46 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

Is it the lack of emotion on the faces?

Or the overabundance of hands on thighs??? ::MonkeyEek::
No it was more how George and Cindy were somewhat showing "support" to each other, and then you have Lee over here in left field just kinda sitting there- detached.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:11:47 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet


HEHEHEHE....SEE NO EVIL....HEAR NO EVIL.....SPEAK NO EVIL..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Stop it cubbeegirl ... my tummy is hurting.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 16, 2008, 10:12:09 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::Monkeys::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet
It looks like an "Adams Family" pic or something!  It's like everyone's hands are inappropriately placed or something!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 16, 2008, 10:12:13 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

The Ice Queen and her lackeys!  You can tell who wears the pants in that family!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:12:53 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

Is it the lack of emotion on the faces?

Or the overabundance of hands on thighs??? ::MonkeyEek::
No it was more how George and Cindy were somewhat showing "support" to each other, and then you have Lee over here in left field just kinda sitting there- detached.  IMO

I would say that the A family does detached very well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 16, 2008, 10:13:08 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)



It takes more muscles to frown than to smile.  Someones not happy!

Ive seen that look before-its Constipation!   

did I really say that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:13:31 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.

With the pitchfork?  American Gothic?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 10:13:40 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

We already have this posted in a photo thread.

Where? What is it?  I blew it up and it looked like a flower with a weenie on top.  Not that I would be entirely surprised that she had a weenie tattoo, she is rather fond of them.  I know the tat parlor guy said they would have her records of what she had, but I never have seen those in the docs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
Thanks Klaas!  I've been following this board for months now, but I never really have much to add.  It takes me several hours every evening to catch up on the posts in one day!


Something I should add though.  My Uncle owns a chain of pizza houses here in Louisiana.  I've grown up around pizza and have even managed several of his locations throughout the past 8 years.  I'm sure that you all know this by now...but I just want to say that I know without a doubt in my mind that that wasn't pizza making KC's car smell like a dead body.  Pizza doesn't smell when it goes bad.  Example- We sell pizzas on location at events around Louisiana.  We use warming cabinets to keep it warm.  There have been times when we thought we had removed all of the pizzas and maybe forgotten one in the back, and placed it in one of our storage areas that aren't air conditioned for two, three, four weeks during the hot Louisiana summer.  I have NEVER smelled old pizza that in any way reminded me of anything dead.  It just smells like pizza. 


My son plays baseball ALOT! and we live in Southeast La. Anyway, two summers ago we went to the Junior Olympics in Jupiter Florida , a leftover box of pizza got left under some baseball equipment in the back of my jeep and was not discovered for until high school ball resumed in January...it was shriveled up and all, but had no smell at all...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
Dana - I didn't even know you were having a show tonight.  I'm so sorry, I missed it and missed letting people know.  Normally I get an email letting me know. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 10:15:19 PM

Sorry this photo seems odd to me.
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

HOW  big is  that SHOCK   that we are going to get ???

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 16, 2008, 10:15:20 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)

(Quoting myself)
Interesting Ken Shamrock fought a guy named Vader in the WWF as well....
Isn't Lee obsessed with Vader (Vader-1)?
(Quoting myself again)

Does anyone recall what night was the night that Casey and Sean Daly (I think) went to the bar to watch the UFC?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:15:54 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.

With the pitchfork?  American Gothic?

YESSSS!!  thank You!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:16:12 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

We already have this posted in a photo thread.

Where? What is it?  I blew it up and it looked like a flower with a weenie on top.  Not that I would be entirely surprised that she had a weenie tattoo, she is rather fond of them.  I know the tat parlor guy said they would have her records of what she had, but I never have seen those in the docs.

Trying to find it right now.  We have another photo that shows it clearer. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:16:12 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
[/quote]

I think the basics, like what type quality of carpet, I am assuming from all the other posts, probably cheap. Any kind of backing?

What is underneath it? Spare tire, storage etc? 

Then maybe a little SM unscientific research like, if you pour a 1/2 cup water on the carpet and leave it for 1/2 hour does it soak all the way through? Is there any evidence of moisture on whatever is under the carpet?   ::MonkeyConfused::

Now you can be just like Lee and do your own detective work! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think the results and photos would be interesting to us all though, and I thank you very much for your time and assistance.
[/quote]


DONE I will try to get it asap


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
Deadly women is on DiscoveryHD...Diane Downs is the first woman covered.


Wish my son would let me watch it.....Diane Downs reminds me alot of Casey....Oh well....son and friends are watching a movie with Matthew McConnaughey....he has his shirt of....... ::MonkeyWink::
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

He is 10 trillion times hotter than that disgusting photo of Larry Garrison we've seen.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Meant off....but UHN HUH!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 10:16:23 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

my guess is either a strawberry or a cluster of grapes, can't tell what color it is but it looks purple to me which makes me lean toward cluster of grapes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 10:16:34 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.

This one???

(http://[IMG]http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/grant-wood-american-gothic.jpg)[/img]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:16:41 PM
My sound isn't working what did lp say???????? ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet

It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.

With the pitchfork?  American Gothic?

BINGO!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:17:05 PM
Dana - I didn't even know you were having a show tonight.  I'm so sorry, I missed it and missed letting people know.  Normally I get an email letting me know. 


I missed it too klaas....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 16, 2008, 10:17:15 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

Oh yeah!  The body language speaks volumes to me.  George and Lee look resigned, while Cindy looks determined and angry.  Her leg crossed over, pointing away from George, tells me that she isn't the slightest bit interested in him at the moment.  A couple who is holding hands, the one on top is typically the more dominant in the relationship.  So look at their hands.  George's hand and arm is entirely under hers.  She is very much the dominant of the two.  She doesn't even seem to be holding his hand as much as he is clutching at hers.  And her hand on Lee's thigh is like saying, 'shut up shut up shut up and let me do the talking'. 

Anyone see anything else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 16, 2008, 10:17:18 PM
No it was more how George and Cindy were somewhat showing "support" to each other, and then you have Lee over here in left field just kinda sitting there- detached.  IMO

They all look completely detached to me ... George is not touching her at the shoulder or leg but Cindy looks like she has a grip on both of them ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:17:32 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

What was this photo from?  When was it taken?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:18:27 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

We already have this posted in a photo thread.

Where? What is it?  I blew it up and it looked like a flower with a weenie on top.  Not that I would be entirely surprised that she had a weenie tattoo, she is rather fond of them.  I know the tat parlor guy said they would have her records of what she had, but I never have seen those in the docs.

LMAO....a weenie tattoo..... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
No it was more how George and Cindy were somewhat showing "support" to each other, and then you have Lee over here in left field just kinda sitting there- detached.  IMO

They all look completely detached to me ... George is not touching her at the shoulder or leg but Cindy looks like she has a grip on both of them ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


She is ready to squeeze if they say the wrong thing...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:19:30 PM
Is there a transcript of dana's show?? That way i can read what lp said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:19:54 PM











Klaas put george and cindys face on the old people..pretty please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 10:20:30 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet
That Photo is So Wrong in So Many Ways LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 10:20:33 PM


It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.
[/quote]

With the pitchfork?  American Gothic?
[/quote]

YESSSS!!  thank You!
[/quote]

Second try, ya mean this one?

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/grant-wood-american-gothic.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:21:25 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

What was this photo from?  When was it taken?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/item.aspx%3Ftype%3Darticle%26aid%3D0d9NceS6B54Q1%26tid%3D0eG10W4e3Aapo%26pn%3D1&h=468&w=610&sz=65&hl=en&start=89&usg=__B8lrg-kHQSafl4L_xJTv3-jyEYk=&tbnid=8bqk16X4Bnn37M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522casey%2Banthony%2522%26start%3D80%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:21:51 PM


It reminds me of the famous painting of the old people from like the 1800s from a farm.  Dont know the name of the painting.

With the pitchfork?  American Gothic?
[/quote]

YESSSS!!  thank You!
[/quote]

Second try, ya mean this one?

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/grant-wood-american-gothic.jpg)
[/quote]
Oh cindy should have the pitchfork and george should be the lady


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 16, 2008, 10:23:01 PM
No it was more how George and Cindy were somewhat showing "support" to each other, and then you have Lee over here in left field just kinda sitting there- detached.  IMO

They all look completely detached to me ... George is not touching her at the shoulder or leg but Cindy looks like she has a grip on both of them ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


She is ready to squeeze if they say the wrong thing...

Perzactly !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:23:21 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

What was this photo from?  When was it taken?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/item.aspx%3Ftype%3Darticle%26aid%3D0d9NceS6B54Q1%26tid%3D0eG10W4e3Aapo%26pn%3D1&h=468&w=610&sz=65&hl=en&start=89&usg=__B8lrg-kHQSafl4L_xJTv3-jyEYk=&tbnid=8bqk16X4Bnn37M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522casey%2Banthony%2522%26start%3D80%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

OK, so it's old from July 21st


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 10:23:34 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

Her birthday is in March, maybe it's on the 17th?

They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)
I was thinking the Same thing - that possibly it was Sports Related
I know that Casey was a Football Fan from reading anyway
Ohio State photos and all - But Yes I agree she is obsessed with Shamrocks.
That one photo though that has Caylee with her tshirt stuffed * boobies* wearing the Shamrock Shirt ..
What Mom would Do that ARRRR She was so Little ... I mean Yah it would be funny if She Was Older and it was a Joke .... Oye.  I just wonder when the obsession of Shamrocks started and why - They are Everywhere within Casey's belongings. Even on the back of Car Window to her Bum.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 10:24:35 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

Her birthday is in March, maybe it's on the 17th?
They were UFC fans, right? 
Ken Shamrock was a UFC champ....perhaps they were big fans?
(grasping at straws)
I was thinking the Same thing - that possibly it was Sports Related
I know that Casey was a Football Fan from reading anyway
Ohio State photos and all - But Yes I agree she is obsessed with Shamrocks.
That one photo though that has Caylee with her tshirt stuffed * boobies* wearing the Shamrock Shirt ..
What Mom would Do that ARRRR She was so Little ... I mean Yah it would be funny if She Was Older and it was a Joke .... Oye.  I just wonder when the obsession of Shamrocks started and why - They are Everywhere within Casey's belongings. Even on the back of Car Window to her Bum.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Whoops


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:25:30 PM

OK, so it's old from July 21st
Yes ma'am. Sorry I just thought the body language was odd.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 16, 2008, 10:25:40 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

Hmmm I wonder if the Zannie, Casey & Caylee pic  that has been mentioned but never produced is # 30 at this link ???



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 16, 2008, 10:26:06 PM
Casey is def an Irish Name and So is Caylee  - many forms of spelling for Caylee's name
Both are Gaelic Irish Names


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:26:20 PM








Klaas put george and cindys face on the old people..pretty please!

That's it!

Thanks katntx.

Janet





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:26:59 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 10:27:48 PM
Ive gotta go start dinner.  Does a fried bolonga sandwich constitue a hot meal?????  BBL>

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not if you want to maintain that Size 1 figure and ... do that black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and justice.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet
Hahahahahaha I had a hamburger steak, peas and cottage cheeze.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:28:07 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

Hmmm I wonder if the Zannie, Casey & Caylee pic  that has been mentioned but never produced is # 30 at this link ???



Ok...those pictures made me really sad....how did it go so terribly wrong?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldencrabby on October 16, 2008, 10:28:08 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

I am waiting for them to burst out with
Where oh where, are you tonight?
Why did you leave me here all alone?
I searched the world over and thought I’d found true love.
You met another and “pfft” you was (were) gone!”
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 10:29:12 PM
Casey is def an Irish Name and So is Caylee  - many forms of spelling for Caylee's name
Both are Gaelic Irish Names

Does anybody know what day in March is Casey's birthday? Was she born on St. Patricks Day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:29:38 PM
Ive gotta go start dinner.  Does a fried bolonga sandwich constitue a hot meal?????  BBL>

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not if you want to maintain that Size 1 figure and ... do that black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots justice.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet
Hahahahahaha I had a hamburger steak, peas and cottage cheeze.

Good Girl.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

I am waiting for them to burst out with
Where oh where, are you tonight?
Why did you leave me here all alone?
I searched the world over and thought I’d found true love.
You met another and “pfft” you was (were) gone!”
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


LMAO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:30:02 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Count me in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:30:34 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 10:31:13 PM
Casey is def an Irish Name and So is Caylee  - many forms of spelling for Caylee's name
Both are Gaelic Irish Names

Does anybody know what day in March is Casey's birthday? Was she born on St. Patricks Day?

3/19


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)



Too Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:32:12 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)



OMG!!!  I almost PMP!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:32:41 PM
Is there a transcript of dana's show?? That way i can read what lp said.

No but there will be a podcast up by later tonight or tomorrow morning for sure so we can listen to it then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 16, 2008, 10:32:45 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)
It was suggested you switch heads!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:33:10 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)

PERFECT!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:33:34 PM
Is there a transcript of dana's show?? That way i can read what lp said.

No but there will be a podcast up by later tonight or tomorrow morning for sure so we can listen to it then.
my speakers are history....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:34:04 PM
Casey's birthday is 03/19/1986. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 10:34:07 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/AnthonyGothic.jpg)

But Klaas, we all know that CinCin wears the pants in the family . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 10:34:35 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:34:39 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Count me in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohh.. crap...

I was watching the 63rd Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner and missed whatever it was entirely...

Hi cubbee!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bikerbev on October 16, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
Hi Cubeegirl!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 10:36:21 PM
Dana couldn't tell us what LP's announcement was, for gosh sakes?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sdb on October 16, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
There were quite a few pictures I had not seen before, but what the heck is that tattoo on her hip? Any of you photo gurus can do something with that?  Photo 26 of 42

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

There is a picture of Lee on there and they are drinking "green" drinks. I just think there is an Irish Pub they go to a lot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:37:28 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........
1 hour
no they do not sales shovels

sears does


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 16, 2008, 10:37:54 PM
Could somebody please tell me where I can find the audio clip of the call where Casey is talking to her mother on the phone the first time she was in jail?

TIA...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 16, 2008, 10:38:12 PM
Behind in reading so don't know if straw hat pic has been found.  Am I crazy or do I remember one of the guys wearing a big straw hat - the guy with tatoos and spikey blondish hair - bare chested I think - at the parties - forgotten his name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:38:29 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:38:38 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Count me in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohh.. crap...

I was watching the 63rd Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner and missed whatever it was entirely...

Hi cubbee!!  ::MonkeyWink::

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 16, 2008, 10:38:57 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

Don't know JCP answer, estimated time with neighbor shovel 1 1/2 hours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:40:02 PM
Dana couldn't tell us what LP's announcement was, for gosh sakes?

really !!!

see if I ever call his show with a fake Indian accent again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:40:11 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Did a search at JCP and some of my employees deliver the frieght to JCP  no shovels , I asked and in 10 yearsthey never unloaded shovels


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 10:41:06 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........
1 hour
no they do not sales shovels

sears does

Yes and she did have the JC Penney and Sears card plus the cash.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:42:11 PM
Behind in reading so don't know if straw hat pic has been found.  Am I crazy or do I remember one of the guys wearing a big straw hat - the guy with tatoos and spikey blondish hair - bare chested I think - at the parties - forgotten his name.

That sounds like Jeffrey Mcdonalds description of the hippys that supposedly killed his wife and daughters.  The girl with glasses in the big floppy hat.  The guy who reported he saw Casey  looked kinda rough.  If he searches and finds something more power to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:42:11 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:42:24 PM
Casey's birthday is 03/19/1986. 

I think that is why she may like St. Patty's.  I mean Kat likes Halloween cause its close to her B-day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 10:42:58 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::
[/quote]

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
[/quote]
Somewhere on the forum someone posted a trunk pic - not her trunk but one a u-tube (maybe) person took.  Anyone remember that - Klaas???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:44:06 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
[/quote]
Somewhere on the forum someone posted a trunk pic - not her trunk but one a u-tube (maybe) person took.  Anyone remember that - Klaas???
[/quote]
Murt has the photo's on his photobucket of an identical car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:44:28 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
[/quote]
Somewhere on the forum someone posted a trunk pic - not her trunk but one a u-tube (maybe) person took.  Anyone remember that - Klaas???
[/quote]

That was MURT.  He had a car the same model as Caseys.  Let me look for the link to his photobucket.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:44:36 PM
Casey's birthday is 03/19/1986. 

I think that is why she may like St. Patty's.  I mean Kat likes Halloween cause its close to her B-day.

I bet.  My daughters birthday is New Years Day and thats her favorite holiday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:44:36 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........
1 hour
no they do not sales shovels

sears does

Yes and she did have the JC Penney and Sears card plus the cash.

Sears has lawn and graden , tools everything .. target does to expecially in the seasonal.. And Im not sure where yall are frome but here everywhere you see target Home depot is right next door


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 10:44:49 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Count me in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohh.. crap...

I was watching the 63rd Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner and missed whatever it was entirely...

Hi cubbee!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Rob,  I was watching that too!  Pretty funny, huh?  Too bad they can't run the election like that!   Many more people would tune in!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Thank you........now I would like to address one more thing as I cant pull up my info right now....but did that same neighbor say that he knows that Casey didnt leave the house after she borrowed it or did he say at all...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:46:27 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want
Somewhere on the forum someone posted a trunk pic - not her trunk but one a u-tube (maybe) person took.  Anyone remember that - Klaas???
[/quote]

That was MURT.  He had a car the same model as Caseys.  Let me look for the link to his photobucket.
[/quote]

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/017-1.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/018-2.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/019-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:46:38 PM
Could somebody please tell me where I can find the audio clip of the call where Casey is talking to her mother on the phone the first time she was in jail?

TIA...

Casey Anthony Calls Home From Jail
Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:10:56 AM


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/casey_anthony_calls_home_from_jail.html


Complete Text Of Casey Anthony's Jailhouse Phone Call
Mother-Daughter Exchange Harsh Words In Missing Girl Mystery
POSTED: 6:34 pm EDT July 25, 2008
UPDATED: 3:42 pm EDT July 28, 2008


http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html


Casey Anthony calls mother from jail
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7067647&version=1&locale=EN-US


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:46:48 PM
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/018-2.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/019-1.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/017-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:46:59 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Thank you........now I would like to address one more thing as I cant pull up my info right now....but did that same neighbor say that he knows that Casey didnt leave the house after she borrowed it or did he say at all...

I just remember him saying the car was backed into the garage for awhile.  He went to check if it was still parked like that and wanted to take a shower and told his kids that Casey would be bringing the shovel back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
No but my cousin has one I will go over and inspect for you and take pictures if you want this weekend?

You are the bomb. I was looking for a used car lot around my area that might have one, but was not successful!! ::MonkeyDance::

Ill take pictures and measurment , just tell me what all you want

Speaking of MURT, has he been around lately?  I haven't seen him here for a little while.   Last I heard, he was going to LE to gather some info?  or sumthin' like that?
Somewhere on the forum someone posted a trunk pic - not her trunk but one a u-tube (maybe) person took.  Anyone remember that - Klaas???
[/quote]

That was MURT.  He had a car the same model as Caseys.  Let me look for the link to his photobucket.
[/quote]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:47:24 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Thank you........now I would like to address one more thing as I cant pull up my info right now....but did that same neighbor say that he knows that Casey didnt leave the house after she borrowed it or did he say at all...

I don't remember if he said. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 10:47:26 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Thank you........now I would like to address one more thing as I cant pull up my info right now....but did that same neighbor say that he knows that Casey didnt leave the house after she borrowed it or did he say at all...
I  thought you were gonna tell us something tonite, did I miss it.  Man, I wish I had jammies with feet, Im freezingggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:47:32 PM
I have a JC Penney catalog right here... it just arrived the other day. This is stuff the have in the stores. I normally don't look at this catalog because I don't want anything in it.

I just looked through it - no shovels or any digging tools like a Sears catalog. Lots of cooking and household. Clothing and jewelry that doesn't look so nice.

I did see a nice recliner, too bad I had to buy one on the fly !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:48:09 PM
MURT is online right now

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 10:48:41 PM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.

I just asked my son if it had any meaning to folks his age.  He is 25, just moved back here from Tampa.  He looked at me with a blank look on his face, then said, "luck?"   ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shamrocked
1.    shamrocked    3 up, 1 down love ithate it
   
Adj. ; hosed; screwed. To have been dealt a low blow by someone. To be "shamrocked" is to be in very dire circumstances indeed, cf. shamrock.

(Origin: Shamrock Towing, a highly unethical company operating in the vicinity of Columbus, Ohio)
Dave talked trash to the wrong folks, and now his ass is shamrocked.

If you haven't dropped Differential Equations by the May 1 deadline, and you've flunked all the exams...all I can say is, "you're shamrocked, big fella!"

Twamley was feeling mighty shamrocked after he had to pay the towing company $45 for an illegal half-drop.
by Carl Willis Apr 27, 2004 share this add comment
2.    shamrocked    1 up, 1 down love ithate it
   
when someone goes over the top in trying to show their irish pride. most often used to describe people of irish ancestory trying to show their "irish-ness" on St. Patricks Day
Guy One: Dude all these people look the same at this St. Patricks Day parade with their Guiness Hats, IRA T-Shirts, and lepercaun pants.

Guy Two: Yeah dude they're all totally Shamrocked!
irish irish-american celtic shamrocker shamrock

1.    shamrocking    2 up, 1 down love ithate it
   
when one puts on a veteranary cone, shakes up a beer (preferably a yeungling) then proceeds to spray the said beer toward ones face and drink as much if the incoming beer as possible.
after jimmy was done shamrocking the beer justone gave him a hot carlson.
beer poop socks cones drinking games


Edited to remove foul language.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
Hello.....whew back ....finally..............so whats new tonight ............and I want to ask a question?    Do they sell shovels at JCP...........and also ....how long did the neighbor say Casey was gone with the shovel the time she borrowed his........

I'm sure they do sell shovels at JCP and Target.  I believe the neighbor said about an hour or an hour 1/2
Thank you........now I would like to address one more thing as I cant pull up my info right now....but did that same neighbor say that he knows that Casey didnt leave the house after she borrowed it or did he say at all...
I  thought you were gonna tell us something tonite, did I miss it.  Man, I wish I had jammies with feet, Im freezingggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.
LOL  im getting to it........dont freeze.....lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:49:00 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 10:49:53 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!    ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Orchidwmn on October 16, 2008, 10:54:48 PM
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/018-2.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/019-1.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/017-1.jpg)

Thanks. See that little handle thing where the piece comes up to access the spare. I just think there could have been evidence around that plastic, or around the edge of that piece of carpet, or somewhere.  I don't think Casey is a meticulous cleaner unless she is trying to impress someone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 10:55:00 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::



Janet, know how ya feel!  I just posted directly to him and still ignored me, as USUAL!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 10:55:33 PM
Hey Wreck, mail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 16, 2008, 10:55:42 PM
HH I have been waiting all night for you to come back from dinner, Im good now I crawled in bed with my laptop , but I only have about an hour left on battery . ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 16, 2008, 10:56:53 PM
Goodnight monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 10:57:32 PM
I used to have a car like that, we would pack the trunk full of kids, go the drivein, then they would climb out - one time the manager walked us all back to buy tickets....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 10:57:33 PM
Goodnight monkeys!

Nite Dolce


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 10:57:58 PM
Goodnight monkeys!

Night Dolce!

Waiting for HH update, then going to bed myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 10:57:58 PM
Goodnight monkeys!
Goodnight Dolce! See you tomorrow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:58:27 PM
I asked Murt what he was eating! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 10:58:28 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::



of course you know I j/k  ::MonkeyWink::

you're the best grandma and Scrabble player on this board and everyone knows it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
g'nite Dolce


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 10:59:28 PM
My son lived for a while in an apartment complex that had a shamrock sticker for people to put on their car windows so they could park in the parking lot.  But I noticed Casey had a shamrock necklace, too.  Cindy's maiden name is Placea, I think, and that does not sound Irish but it might be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 10:59:51 PM
Nite nite Dolce.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 10:59:56 PM
Night Dolce..get rest for 2 now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:00:18 PM
I meant 3!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
Night Dolce..get rest for 2 now.
Don't you mean 3??? I heard she is having twins


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
I meant 3!
lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 16, 2008, 11:02:55 PM
Could somebody please tell me where I can find the audio clip of the call where Casey is talking to her mother on the phone the first time she was in jail?

TIA...

Casey Anthony Calls Home From Jail
Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:10:56 AM


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/casey_anthony_calls_home_from_jail.html


Complete Text Of Casey Anthony's Jailhouse Phone Call
Mother-Daughter Exchange Harsh Words In Missing Girl Mystery
POSTED: 6:34 pm EDT July 25, 2008
UPDATED: 3:42 pm EDT July 28, 2008


http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html


Casey Anthony calls mother from jail
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7067647&version=1&locale=EN-US


Muchisimas Gracias!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:04:40 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:05:38 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
The more pictures I see of Casey with Caylee, Casey with her parents, Caylee doing everything from swim to dress up for Halloween to open presents to play with the dogs to eat to read, the hundreds and hundreds of pictures (and just think of all the ones we have not seen) not not a single one of Casey with her sitter of the last two years.  This is a family that lived with camera in hand and documented everything they did.  But nothing about Caylee and her days with the mysterious Zanny. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 11:06:34 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hello!  I'm not ignoring you!  It is slow tonight, isn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:07:43 PM
The more pictures I see of Casey with Caylee, Casey with her parents, Caylee doing everything from swim to dress up for Halloween to open presents to play with the dogs to eat to read, the hundreds and hundreds of pictures (and just think of all the ones we have not seen) not not a single one of Casey with her sitter of the last two years.  This is a family that lived with camera in hand and documented everything they did.  But nothing about Caylee and her days with the mysterious Zanny. 
That's because the nanny was either xanax or chloroform :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:08:48 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: Nobody caught lp's announcement? :: ::MonkeyWaa::

DAAAAANA ... COOOOME BAAAACK!!!
::MonkeyWaa:: Ditto!!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Count me in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohh.. crap...

I was watching the 63rd Annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner and missed whatever it was entirely...

Hi cubbee!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hey Rob!!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:08:55 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 11:11:05 PM
The more pictures I see of Casey with Caylee, Casey with her parents, Caylee doing everything from swim to dress up for Halloween to open presents to play with the dogs to eat to read, the hundreds and hundreds of pictures (and just think of all the ones we have not seen) not not a single one of Casey with her sitter of the last two years.  This is a family that lived with camera in hand and documented everything they did.  But nothing about Caylee and her days with the mysterious Zanny. 

Hudsunn, on the face of it - the do seem to love Caylee very much. Which makes their behavior even worse. It's a total sell out in my opinion.

Only pictures now to remind them. It's sad on so many levels. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

++

Hi Di -  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:11:19 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hello!  I'm not ignoring you!  It is slow tonight, isn't it?

Yes, it is slow tonight, which is why I am even posting, otherwise, I'd stay on the sidelines.  The newbies such as yourself are doing a GREAT job! I'm so glad to see all the new monkeys here!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:11:23 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I always think it's funny when people say they are ignored EVEN when it's slow.  See, when it's slow I'm off researching or playing a game or watching TV with my husband.  That's probably why I don't respond.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:11:55 PM
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/018-2.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/019-1.jpg)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/017-1.jpg)

Thanks. See that little handle thing where the piece comes up to access the spare. I just think there could have been evidence around that plastic, or around the edge of that piece of carpet, or somewhere.  I don't think Casey is a meticulous cleaner unless she is trying to impress someone.

THANKS Klaas and Dolce - trying to save the monkey Walter and another monkey from re-inventing the wheel. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: AZSunny on October 16, 2008, 11:13:23 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:14:05 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 16, 2008, 11:14:29 PM
Klaas - need to leave a message for Marlee - I have a wonderful idea for the next search effort. If you see her, can you tell her I'm looking for her?

TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:14:40 PM
The more pictures I see of Casey with Caylee, Casey with her parents, Caylee doing everything from swim to dress up for Halloween to open presents to play with the dogs to eat to read, the hundreds and hundreds of pictures (and just think of all the ones we have not seen) not not a single one of Casey with her sitter of the last two years.  This is a family that lived with camera in hand and documented everything they did.  But nothing about Caylee and her days with the mysterious Zanny. 

Hudsunn, on the face of it - the do seem to love Caylee very much. Which makes their behavior even worse. It's a total sell out in my opinion.

Only pictures now to remind them. It's sad on so many levels. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

++

Hi Di -  ::MonkeyCool::

Me either Rob....it is so incredibly sad.....poor little Caylee...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:14:50 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I always think it's funny when people say they are ignored EVEN when it's slow.  See, when it's slow I'm off researching or playing a game or watching TV with my husband.  That's probably why I don't respond.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

YOU don't count Klaas!  You already do way too much AND your the one who tries to recognize everybody!   That's why your so special.  I'm just glad you get a few free moments once in awhile!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:14:55 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:16:07 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::



of course you know I j/k  ::MonkeyWink::

you're the best grandma and Scrabble player on this board and everyone knows it.

Yep! Undisputed Scrabble Queen! And Janet rocks!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:16:12 PM
Klaas - need to leave a message for Marlee - I have a wonderful idea for the next search effort. If you see her, can you tell her I'm looking for her?

TIA!

Knay,  I have her email and cell phone, if you want to email me with ideas.  Her and I have worked together on several TES projects.  Klaas can give you my email.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 11:16:38 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:16:49 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:16:54 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:17:39 PM
Klaas - need to leave a message for Marlee - I have a wonderful idea for the next search effort. If you see her, can you tell her I'm looking for her?

TIA!

Knay,  I have her email and cell phone, if you want to email me with ideas.  Her and I have worked together on several TES projects.  Klaas can give you my email.

I meant to say, I could get her any messages if you need to contact her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:17:48 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hey Dihannah...didn't mean to ignore you!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:18:03 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:18:14 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:18:29 PM
OMG!  Did you just hear the news break?  A mother busted for giving her toddlers Cocaine, Meth and pot and is pregnant, still using, stating she hopes she uses to lose the unborn baby!  ::MonkeyShocked::   I wanna puke again!

She needs to sit in a cell with Casey!
I saw that too tonight - my first though is someone tell me where in Indiana - I am in driving distance.  I will rescue those toddlers, wait till she delivers then beat the ever-livin' shi! outta her.

BTW - Casey can have what is left of her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:18:35 PM
Klaas - need to leave a message for Marlee - I have a wonderful idea for the next search effort. If you see her, can you tell her I'm looking for her?

TIA!

KnayKnay - why don't you post your idea in the TES donations thread and I'll make sure she sees it:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3653.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2008, 11:18:36 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Az, he is busy with his new Italian league "football" team and he learned his lesson - don't say your future client is guilty as hell!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: before you are hired.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)

Something tells me it's going to be him or Geragos!  This is high profile, right or wrong, it's in their league from previous experience!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I won't ignore ya!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:20:57 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....

Econ Lake and Underhill?  Is this anywhere near where the witness today said he saw someone walking out of the wooded area wearing a straw hat and red sunglasses, that looked like Casey, and drove a car just like hers?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:21:05 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 11:21:14 PM
Sometimes I think that people try to make scrapbooks of the perfect life they would like to have and often it does not even resemble the life they really have.  Does that make any sense?  We all do it to a certain extent.  We fill our photo albums with happy, pretty, warm and fuzzy pictures of us having fun and showing love for one another.  We don't whip out the camera when there is a big argument or someone leaves in a huff. 

Even the Yates family had a few warm, fuzzy pix with Rusty and Andrea and those precious little children who ended up drowned in the bathtub.  And Laci Peterson had lots of pictures of herself with Scott, looking all lovey dovey.  Pictures do not tell the whole story. 

I do think that the Anthonys look happy in their pictures, but we also know that Cindy and George were separated for months and almost divorced after Caylee was born and that the police were called to their home a number of times due to verbal disturbances.

But my main point was that they take pictures of everything...and yet there are no pictures of Caylee with Zanny the Nanny who supposedly was her babysitter for two long years.  Caylee was not yet three when she disappeared, and yet not a single picture of her with the person who was supposed to be her constant nanny.  I do not think for a moment that they would fail to get a picture of a nanny if there had been one.  Or of Caylee at the nanny's. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:21:45 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)

Something tells me it's going to be him or Geragos!  This is high profile, right or wrong, it's in their league from previous experience!


Oh, please not Taco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:23:32 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....

Econ Lake and Underhill?  Is this anywhere near where the witness today said he saw someone walking out of the wooded area wearing a straw hat and red sunglasses, that looked like Casey, and drove a car just like hers?

Thanks HH!  I need to go to bed, so will look tomorrow for further updates.  Goodnight all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Sometimes I think that people try to make scrapbooks of the perfect life they would like to have and often it does not even resemble the life they really have.  Does that make any sense?  We all do it to a certain extent.  We fill our photo albums with happy, pretty, warm and fuzzy pictures of us having fun and showing love for one another.  We don't whip out the camera when there is a big argument or someone leaves in a huff. 

Even the Yates family had a few warm, fuzzy pix with Rusty and Andrea and those precious little children who ended up drowned in the bathtub.  And Laci Peterson had lots of pictures of herself with Scott, looking all lovey dovey.  Pictures do not tell the whole story. 

I do think that the Anthonys look happy in their pictures, but we also know that Cindy and George were separated for months and almost divorced after Caylee was born and that the police were called to their home a number of times due to verbal disturbances.

But my main point was that they take pictures of everything...and yet there are no pictures of Caylee with Zanny the Nanny who supposedly was her babysitter for two long years.  Caylee was not yet three when she disappeared, and yet not a single picture of her with the person who was supposed to be her constant nanny.  I do not think for a moment that they would fail to get a picture of a nanny if there had been one.  Or of Caylee at the nanny's. 


Exactlly, because there was no nanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:23:52 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:24:45 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....

Econ Lake and Underhill?  Is this anywhere near where the witness today said he saw someone walking out of the wooded area wearing a straw hat and red sunglasses, that looked like Casey, and drove a car just like hers?

Thanks HH!  I need to go to bed, so will look tomorrow for further updates.  Goodnight all!
Goodnite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 11:25:45 PM

CUBBEE????   ::MonkeyWink::

What is the world is that all about?

Tell me Rob .. when was the last time I got a ...  HI JANET!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I just always nod my head and agree so there is no reason to  ::MonkeyWink:: @ you!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Janet!!!

Hi Rob!!!     ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Janet, know how ya feel!  I just posted directly to him and still ignored me, as USUAL!   ::MonkeyTongue::

I never feel ignored unless I direct a post to a Monkey and ... there is no response.  I just move on.  Rob and I go back a long ways and ... I was just giving him a bad time.  Rob knows exactly where I am coming from and ... therefore there is no offence.

Di ... a lack of response from me to a post does not imply in any way that I do not appreciated or take seriously what a Monkey has to say.

However ... you and I seem to never be for a loss of words on that political thread before I kindda go burned out from the long campaigning process that encompasses American election.

Take care Di.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:25:56 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   
Are you not married???? Or should i say you lucky girl  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Dihannah1 on October 16, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!

Me Too!  Cause I've been there so many times!  :)   Don't know if you noticed I messed up the quote stack and saw my reply above.   Even after so long,  I too still mess them up!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
night always!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:26:25 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!
sorry, not ignoring you, multitasking - watching murt in another window :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:27:07 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   
Are you not married???? Or should i say you lucky girl  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

LOL! and yes im married!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:27:10 PM
Will somebody please respond to JoyJoy I am feeling ignored for her.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 16, 2008, 11:27:24 PM
Nite Dihannah - sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:27:24 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!
sorry, not ignoring you, multitasking - watching murt in another window :-)

Hey but what's even worse than that is when you post a reply to someone and they ignore you, and then, one of the un-ignored posters posts the same reply, which of course is not ignored  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:27:29 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:27:42 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: AZSunny on October 16, 2008, 11:28:05 PM
Yes, Rob you are right it is very sad.

 I keep waiting for Tacopina to show up to save the day for Casey....... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/JoeTacoBell2.jpg)

Great one Klaas, and it really wouldn't surprise me at all to see him on the case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 11:28:10 PM
night always!
Im not going yet, Im waiting for HH.  I wish I had a puppy to sleep on my feet!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:29:15 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!
sorry, not ignoring you, multitasking - watching murt in another window :-)

Hey but what's even worse than that is when you post a reply to someone and they ignore you, and then, one of the un-ignored posters posts the same reply, which of course is not ignored  ::MonkeyLaugh::
I'm a confused monkey now... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
Sometimes I think that people try to make scrapbooks of the perfect life they would like to have and often it does not even resemble the life they really have.  Does that make any sense?  We all do it to a certain extent.  We fill our photo albums with happy, pretty, warm and fuzzy pictures of us having fun and showing love for one another.  We don't whip out the camera when there is a big argument or someone leaves in a huff. 

Even the Yates family had a few warm, fuzzy pix with Rusty and Andrea and those precious little children who ended up drowned in the bathtub.  And Laci Peterson had lots of pictures of herself with Scott, looking all lovey dovey.  Pictures do not tell the whole story. 

I do think that the Anthonys look happy in their pictures, but we also know that Cindy and George were separated for months and almost divorced after Caylee was born and that the police were called to their home a number of times due to verbal disturbances.

But my main point was that they take pictures of everything...and yet there are no pictures of Caylee with Zanny the Nanny who supposedly was her babysitter for two long years.  Caylee was not yet three when she disappeared, and yet not a single picture of her with the person who was supposed to be her constant nanny.  I do not think for a moment that they would fail to get a picture of a nanny if there had been one.  Or of Caylee at the nanny's. 



Ding!Ding!Ding! I totally agree with this post.....I have always said that the lack of a picture of the "nanny" just does not fit with the abundance of pictures of Caylee with other members of that family.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:29:42 PM
Will somebody please respond to JoyJoy I am feeling ignored for her.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks marymary


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mizjay on October 16, 2008, 11:30:27 PM
The more pictures I see of Casey  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::with Caylee, Casey with her parents, Caylee doing everything from swim to dress up for Halloween to open presents to play with the dogs to eat to read, the hundreds and hundreds of pictures (and just think of all the ones we have not seen) not not a single one of Casey with her sitter of the last two years.  This is a family that lived with camera in hand and documented everything they did.  But nothing about Caylee and her days with the mysterious Zanny. 
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I agree  with you and not one cute story from SINdy. When she blathers on and on about everything else if Caylee had ever uttered one thing about what she and Zany had done or seen we all would have heard it in a million tv spots so....

and to whoever said they say 6 eyebrows that cracked me up !!  me too, and i'm hoping that the slore, oops i meant Casey, will not be allowed tweezers and soon we can plow thru hers!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:30:49 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: codemonkey on October 16, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
Sometimes I think that people try to make scrapbooks of the perfect life they would like to have and often it does not even resemble the life they really have.  Does that make any sense?  We all do it to a certain extent.  We fill our photo albums with happy, pretty, warm and fuzzy pictures of us having fun and showing love for one another.  We don't whip out the camera when there is a big argument or someone leaves in a huff. 

Even the Yates family had a few warm, fuzzy pix with Rusty and Andrea and those precious little children who ended up drowned in the bathtub.  And Laci Peterson had lots of pictures of herself with Scott, looking all lovey dovey.  Pictures do not tell the whole story. 

I do think that the Anthonys look happy in their pictures, but we also know that Cindy and George were separated for months and almost divorced after Caylee was born and that the police were called to their home a number of times due to verbal disturbances.

But my main point was that they take pictures of everything...and yet there are no pictures of Caylee with Zanny the Nanny who supposedly was her babysitter for two long years.  Caylee was not yet three when she disappeared, and yet not a single picture of her with the person who was supposed to be her constant nanny.  I do not think for a moment that they would fail to get a picture of a nanny if there had been one.  Or of Caylee at the nanny's. 

Very true. 
Interesting also that the Nanny never took any pictures of Caylee on their trips to the beach, Universal or Disney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:31:04 PM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!
sorry, not ignoring you, multitasking - watching murt in another window :-)

Hey but what's even worse than that is when you post a reply to someone and they ignore you, and then, one of the un-ignored posters posts the same reply, which of course is not ignored  ::MonkeyLaugh::
I'm a confused monkey now... ::MonkeyLaugh::
OMG! I get it now and yes that has happened to me to... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
night always!
Im not going yet, Im waiting for HH.  I wish I had a puppy to sleep on my feet!!!

Sorry..im starving..a handful of cashews didnt cut it for dinner.  My brain is malnourished.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 16, 2008, 11:31:14 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!

JoyJoy.... I don't know what to think of it.....one person says they saw her with a straw hat and one says a baseball hat....dunnoo.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:32:09 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 16, 2008, 11:32:16 PM
I read and appreciate what everyone posts.  Often I don't reply because I have nothing to add and/or don't know what to say! 
But, I would never intentionally offend anyone.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:32:22 PM
Will somebody please respond to JoyJoy I am feeling ignored for her.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
No need - I did. 
But Diannha (sp) ignored my response to her!!!!!!!  But that is okay - Des hit me with a Bingo today, so I am flying high!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:32:24 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

We know, we're just pokin' fun :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sea Searcher on October 16, 2008, 11:32:56 PM
LOL...

I'm watching Scared Monkeys on Murt's puter !

HI MURT !!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
Hi JoyJoy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 16, 2008, 11:33:05 PM
I don't live in the same town as my grandson.  He lives about two hours away.  But I met both of his baby sitters.  One came to his first birthday party.  And I met they second one when I went with my son to pick him up once when we were visiting.  Zanny was supposedly a friend of Casey's and yet she was never at Casey's birthday parties.  Cindy had never met her or talked to her on the phone and did not know where she lived.  Nor did she have Zanny's telephone number in case of any emergency.  I think that Cindy and George know full well that Zanny never existed and knew it the minute Casey started talking about Zanny taking the child.  You cannot tell me that someone like Cindy would have her granddaughter going off every day to a nanny that she has never seen and cannot get in touch with.

Why did they allow Casey to keep up this charade for so long?  George said he knew for a long time that Casey had no job.  Cindy surely knew that she was not paying a nanny big bucks to keep Caylee every day.  Are they like ostriches who buried their heads in the sand to keep from confronting Casey?  Just what kind of family life is that?  How ridiculous it must be to go around pretending you have a job when you do not and to have your parents kind of go along with it when they obviously know better?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 16, 2008, 11:33:06 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 16, 2008, 11:33:09 PM
Has anyone out West heard anymore about the Las Vegas abduction of the little 6-year-old boy?


Back to Caylee:
Also, have any other docs been released?  You know, the ones that the DA had to "make public" to the defense.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:33:14 PM
HH..Spill your guts about what you know..Hubby's making me go to bed.. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:33:26 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!

I agree with you junkie- you never know if someone is telling the truth...  The straw hat seemed kind of odd though but I guess if you wanted to cover your face....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:33:47 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:34:58 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 11:35:26 PM
One poster said Casey had a bag with her when she came out of the woods, do you think maybe she changed hats and glasses and put the other in the bag????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:35:31 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 

Well let me ask him....lol!  J/K


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:35:32 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::
::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sea Searcher on October 16, 2008, 11:35:43 PM
Please help a slow monkey..

Does anyone have a link for the new witness story ? saw KC with a bag ?

I have been searching back for it but can't locate  ::MonkeyWaa::

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: cecilita on October 16, 2008, 11:36:17 PM


Casey is in the place that she belongs  "jail", the judge will decided what to do with her,....

At this point everybody knows that caylee is dead and I think that it is time for NG to be focus on all those kids are lost like the little 6 year old boy was kidnapped yesterday, or other Innocent victims still missing.......


I am very happy that the monsters is behind bars...I hope she will be there for ever


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:36:21 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::


OMG!  Lmao!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:36:29 PM
One poster said Casey had a bag with her when she came out of the woods, do you think maybe she changed hats and glasses and put the other in the bag????
Nothing would surprise me in this case..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:36:48 PM
Hi JoyJoy!

Hi kat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:38:13 PM
Has anyone out West heard anymore about the Las Vegas abduction of the little 6-year-old boy?


Back to Caylee:
Also, have any other docs been released?  You know, the ones that the DA had to "make public" to the defense.



Nothing new on the Las Vegas 6yr old that was kidnapped except that it may be drug related.  Something about a relative dealing drugs from the home.

No new docs have been released that I'm aware of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:38:26 PM
One poster said Casey had a bag with her when she came out of the woods, do you think maybe she changed hats and glasses and put the other in the bag????

She left her Superman outfit in the bag.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:38:29 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::


OMG!  Lmao!
OMG! That is not what i meant... I meant boring...OMG! Where is your mind  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 16, 2008, 11:38:34 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!

I agree with you junkie- you never know if someone is telling the truth...  The straw hat seemed kind of odd though but I guess if you wanted to cover your face....

This man totally reminded me of someone in my own family.  My cousin can tell the absolute truth and because of the way and manner of his saying it, he isn't believed.  I don't know if it's the drama or what.  My cousin has ADHD and that guy seemed very excited...almost hyper...but as I said, it could be the absolute truth.  If we heard from someone who personally knows this man's manner of speech, we might have a better idea.  (I think this may be clear as mud but maybe someone will understand what I mean.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:39:24 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::


OMG!  Lmao!
OMG! That is not what i meant.. I meant boring...Where is your mind.. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 11:39:35 PM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:39:54 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::
OH MY _ MRSROCKO - didn't know you had it in ya sister!  So, am I getting my diet coke and a stiff one?  Wow - Des was right, BINGO!@!!O!O!L!O!O!L!O!L!O 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:40:05 PM
Please help a slow monkey..

Does anyone have a link for the new witness story ? saw KC with a bag ?

I have been searching back for it but can't locate  ::MonkeyWaa::

TIA

Sorry i say this on this site but i don't know how to send a link ....

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Anna on October 16, 2008, 11:40:17 PM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:41:13 PM
One poster said Casey had a bag with her when she came out of the woods, do you think maybe she changed hats and glasses and put the other in the bag????
Nothing would surprise me in this case..

She wouldnt need the fake eyeglasses with the eye brows, they whole gang has the eye brows.  I wouldnt put anything past Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:41:46 PM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........
that's awesome news HH, thanks for sharing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:42:37 PM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........
That would be great...I heard that even if evidence is wiped off sometimes they still find it..So i hope it's right..Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 11:42:41 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 16, 2008, 11:42:57 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 16, 2008, 11:43:02 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:44:48 PM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!

I agree with you junkie- you never know if someone is telling the truth...  The straw hat seemed kind of odd though but I guess if you wanted to cover your face....

This man totally reminded me of someone in my own family.  My cousin can tell the absolute truth and because of the way and manner of his saying it, he isn't believed.  I don't know if it's the drama or what.  My cousin has ADHD and that guy seemed very excited...almost hyper...but as I said, it could be the absolute truth.  If we heard from someone who personally knows this man's manner of speech, we might have a better idea.  (I think this may be clear as mud but maybe someone will understand what I mean.)

I definitely understand what you mean....it would be wonderful if this was a true witness......and fianlly finding baby Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Anna on October 16, 2008, 11:45:14 PM
Second thought . . I have been reading all over the internet on this tragedy and so have no idea where I saw it but long ago read that Tony L's sister in New York had invited Casey to come along on his trip back there.  Does anyone else recall this?

Does the State of Florida have to prove motive?  Was Casey upset not only over missing the trip to Puerto Rico but also not being able to go with Tony to NY?

Shades of Susan Smith, Diane Downs and countless others as to motive?

Also remember the interview of Tony L in restaurant by reporter. . .Tony said he couldn't talk at all because he had turned State's evidence, didn't he?  I think he is the one who knows something and will tell.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:45:25 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::
OH MY _ MRSROCKO - didn't know you had it in ya sister!  So, am I getting my diet coke and a stiff one?  Wow - Des was right, BINGO!@!!O!O!L!O!O!L!O!L!O 
I swear i didn't mean it that way...I'm so red right now and it took me a minute to get it..I"M SO SLOW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 16, 2008, 11:45:33 PM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Anna   - I agree odd that she would be having frozen food from home with her when Tony picked her up but I think we are talking totally different days.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 16, 2008, 11:45:39 PM
Good nite everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sea Searcher on October 16, 2008, 11:45:55 PM
Please help a slow monkey..

Does anyone have a link for the new witness story ? saw KC with a bag ?

I have been searching back for it but can't locate  ::MonkeyWaa::

TIA

Sorry i say this on this site but i don't know how to send a link ....

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html



Thanks JOYJOY...

Murt is doing a great presentation with maps on the area in question


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?

I personally think when she borrowed the shovel on 6/18, it was to get the baby into the trunk of the car.  Then she may have gone on a scouting trip right after that, but did not actually unload the body till the 27th or 28th of the month.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:46:05 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

didn't want to ignore you  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 16, 2008, 11:47:25 PM
which to my way of understanding ...is the reason the case is got hard evidence right now.....if the dirt from a certain location is found in the trunk...the shovel was put in the trunk......fluids from the bag got on the shovel and if they turn out to be Caylees DNA   then  even without a body you cant dispute that....because how else would the same fluids from her trunk....the same dirt from her undercariage.....show up on the shovel unless it all came into contact together....I hope Im making sense........ugggggg this stupid comp....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:47:56 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
Second thought . . I have been reading all over the internet on this tragedy and so have no idea where I saw it but long ago read that Tony L's sister in New York had invited Casey to come along on his trip back there.  Does anyone else recall this?

Does the State of Florida have to prove motive?  Was Casey upset not only over missing the trip to Puerto Rico but also not being able to go with Tony to NY?

Shades of Susan Smith, Diane Downs and countless others as to motive?

Also remember the interview of Tony L in restaurant by reporter. . .Tony said he couldn't talk at all because he had turned State's evidence, didn't he?  I think he is the one who knows something and will tell.


IDK that answer, but is he also the one who made the statement that, He didn't want to know about plan b?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:48:06 PM
Second thought . . I have been reading all over the internet on this tragedy and so have no idea where I saw it but long ago read that Tony L's sister in New York had invited Casey to come along on his trip back there.  Does anyone else recall this?

Does the State of Florida have to prove motive?  Was Casey upset not only over missing the trip to Puerto Rico but also not being able to go with Tony to NY?

Shades of Susan Smith, Diane Downs and countless others as to motive?

Also remember the interview of Tony L in restaurant by reporter. . .Tony said he couldn't talk at all because he had turned State's evidence, didn't he?  I think he is the one who knows something and will tell.



I believe Caylee was already gone by than, Tony left on June 30th.  She may have wanted to take care of some loose ends. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 16, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
You know, I don't honestly remember if I read this or dreamed this or perhaps I'm just going mental over this whole case.

For some reason I thought I had read somewhere that she used that shovel to break the lock on the shed that held the gas cans.  Does anyone else remember reading that anywhere?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 16, 2008, 11:49:03 PM
AH! That would fit the timeframe, TexasBarMom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 11:49:33 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

didn't want to ignore you  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Hi!  Don't you get tired stirring that pot all night?  BTW my brain is mush, I've been sick so for a day and a half I have been actually AHEAD of the posters, waiting to post.  Just like my little monkey under my post, I don't know what time it is or what day it is!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:49:56 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.
All George will need is perfect hair, bugged out eyes, bushy eyebrows and a Caylee shirt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 11:50:00 PM
Has anyone out West heard anymore about the Las Vegas abduction of the little 6-year-old boy?


Back to Caylee:
Also, have any other docs been released?  You know, the ones that the DA had to "make public" to the defense.



Klaas ... it was only on Nancy Grace tonight that I heard about the drug connection.  Both CNN and FOX are reporting the incident of a robbery that ended in the abduction of the little boy.

I am waiting for the transcript of tonight's Nancy Grace show to be posted.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPTS
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html


updated 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Boy, 6, taken by men posing as police officers

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/16/nevada.boy.kidnapped.ap/index.html


Amber Alert Out, Hunt Under Way for Little Boy Kidnapped During Las Vegas Robbery
Thursday, October 16, 2008

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439043,00.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:50:37 PM
which to my way of understanding ...is the reason the case is got hard evidence right now.....if the dirt from a certain location is found in the trunk...the shovel was put in the trunk......fluids from the bag got on the shovel and if they turn out to be Caylees DNA   then  even without a body you cant dispute that....because how else would the same fluids from her trunk....the same dirt from her undercariage.....show up on the shovel unless it all came into contact together....I hope Im making sense........ugggggg this stupid comp....
I pray for this...I sure hope so. I hate to think of her getting off on this..Plus i want o see george and cindy's face when the guilty verdict comes in...Because i'm mean like that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 16, 2008, 11:51:05 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!

I live in Texas, too, and everyone I meet is familiar with the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:51:29 PM
Good nite everyone.

have a good nite A1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 16, 2008, 11:51:38 PM
which to my way of understanding ...is the reason the case is got hard evidence right now.....if the dirt from a certain location is found in the trunk...the shovel was put in the trunk......fluids from the bag got on the shovel and if they turn out to be Caylees DNA   then  even without a body you cant dispute that....because how else would the same fluids from her trunk....the same dirt from her undercariage.....show up on the shovel unless it all came into contact together....I hope Im making sense........ugggggg this stupid comp....
I have no doubts that this will all come together and then it won't matter what mr. kobelinsky (or whatever his name is) says. Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 16, 2008, 11:52:06 PM
Good nite everyone.

Good Night A1

Be good ... no late night snack.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:52:25 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

didn't want to ignore you  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Hi!  Don't you get tired stirring that pot all night?  BTW my brain is mush, I've been sick so for a day and a half I have been actually AHEAD of the posters, waiting to post.  Just like my little monkey under my post, I don't know what time it is or what day it is!!!!!!

I know it was starting to feel like a chain letter.  Hope you feel better soon.  It will be Friday in 8 minutes. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:53:34 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::
OH MY _ MRSROCKO - didn't know you had it in ya sister!  So, am I getting my diet coke and a stiff one?  Wow - Des was right, BINGO!@!!O!O!L!O!O!L!O!L!O 
I swear i didn't mean it that way...I'm so red right now and it took me a minute to get it..I"M SO SLOW!
MrsRocko - even if I did know your character from your posts (which I do!) I can't in all monkey fun, let even you get by with that one!  Darn, you look good in Monkey GLOW!!!!!!!!!!! 
I know it was a Freudian slip, but don't tell Mrs. R !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:54:18 PM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?
say that or an hour in and half..He stated he finished what he was doing in the back yard cleaned up. Then went and took a shower..I guess it depends on what he was doing outside and if it was a quick shower...My opinoin men are not big time keepers most are always late and say oh is it that time already..jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Anna on October 16, 2008, 11:54:35 PM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Anna   - I agree odd that she would be having frozen food from home with her when Tony picked her up but I think we are talking totally different days.


Thanks, Klaas.  Just find the items from home freezer odd on any day and have always wondered if it was checked thoroughly with cadaver dogs, etc. as I do tend to believe there was possibly some movement of remains.  I wonder how often the Anthonys are into the freezer.  In some home, would be daily and others might be monthly but Casey would know.

Every thing about them looks sinister to me and when I see the freezer when the garage door is open, can't help wondering if it was checked but it likely has been and thoroughly.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:54:37 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

didn't want to ignore you  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Hi!  Don't you get tired stirring that pot all night?  BTW my brain is mush, I've been sick so for a day and a half I have been actually AHEAD of the posters, waiting to post.  Just like my little monkey under my post, I don't know what time it is or what day it is!!!!!!

I know it was starting to feel like a chain letter.  Hope you feel better soon.  It will be Friday in 8 minutes. 
Oh that pot  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 16, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Murt just asked me over for a Bartles!   

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey, single monkey here - where is he?  Think he will make it a stiff diet coke? 
He'll make it stiff alright... ::MonkeyLaugh::
OH MY _ MRSROCKO - didn't know you had it in ya sister!  So, am I getting my diet coke and a stiff one?  Wow - Des was right, BINGO!@!!O!O!L!O!O!L!O!L!O 
I swear i didn't mean it that way...I'm so red right now and it took me a minute to get it..I"M SO SLOW!
MrsRocko - even if I did know your character from your posts (which I do!) I can't in all monkey fun, let even you get by with that one!  Darn, you look good in Monkey GLOW!!!!!!!!!!! 
I know it was a Freudian slip, but don't tell Mrs. R !!!
Oh MY! I'm just glad you have a great sence of humor... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 16, 2008, 11:56:37 PM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!

I live in Texas, too, and everyone I meet is familiar with the case.

Where are you Janet?  Im in New Braunfels.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 16, 2008, 11:57:04 PM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Anna   - I agree odd that she would be having frozen food from home with her when Tony picked her up but I think we are talking totally different days.


Thanks, Klaas.  Just find the items from home freezer odd on any day and have always wondered if it was checked thoroughly with cadaver dogs, etc. as I do tend to believe there was possibly some movement of remains.  I wonder how often the Anthonys are into the freezer.  In some home, would be daily and others might be monthly but Casey would know.

Every thing about them looks sinister to me and when I see the freezer when the garage door is open, can't help wondering if it was checked but it likely has been and thoroughly.



That's another reason I don't think she was driving her own car to pick up that food.  How would her clothes and the food not get that odor absorbed. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 16, 2008, 11:59:20 PM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::

What post?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

didn't want to ignore you  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Hi!  Don't you get tired stirring that pot all night?  BTW my brain is mush, I've been sick so for a day and a half I have been actually AHEAD of the posters, waiting to post.  Just like my little monkey under my post, I don't know what time it is or what day it is!!!!!!
KLAAS This was quite simply one of your most brilliant moves!!!!!!  Post this and then everyone can respond and nobody is ignored!!!!!  You might want to do this once or twice a day!!!  Let the pity party all happen in one thread!  LOL 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: da sparkenator on October 16, 2008, 11:59:39 PM
 
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Oh that pot  ::MonkeyHaHa::
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You're going to get Caldron Elbow!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 16, 2008, 11:59:54 PM
Can anyone give me a link to murt's site


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:00:00 AM
You know, I don't honestly remember if I read this or dreamed this or perhaps I'm just going mental over this whole case.

For some reason I thought I had read somewhere that she used that shovel to break the lock on the shed that held the gas cans.  Does anyone else remember reading that anywhere?

that was one theory... Break the lock BUT  Cindy said (I think) that Casey was digging up Bamboo  .... What happend to the Bamboo  are there Bamboo  stumps / cut roots in the back yard..
Oh sorry   Pant, pant, ahhh  Hi Monkeys   :smt006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:00:37 AM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?
say that or an hour in and half..He stated he finished what he was doing in the back yard cleaned up. Then went and took a shower..I guess it depends on what he was doing outside and if it was a quick shower...My opinoin men are not big time keepers most are always late and say oh is it that time already..jmo
That is the reason Im asking about the time ....this place Im talking about is only 20 minutes away from the anthony;s home and she was in this vicinity......just after she borrowed the shovel and so Im wondering if maybe Caylees body was taken out of the backyard and put back in the trunk and then when she put the shovel in the trunk ...fluids from the bag got on the shovel.......and even then if she decided not to bury her at that time...maybe too much traffic or whatever and then took the shovel back it would still have DNA on it anyway.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 12:01:25 AM
You know, I don't honestly remember if I read this or dreamed this or perhaps I'm just going mental over this whole case.

For some reason I thought I had read somewhere that she used that shovel to break the lock on the shed that held the gas cans.  Does anyone else remember reading that anywhere?

that was one theory... Break the lock BUT  Cindy said (I think) that Casey was digging up Bamboo  .... What happend to the Bamboo  are there Bamboo  stumps / cut roots in the back yard..
Oh sorry   Pant, pant, ahhh  Hi Monkeys   :smt006

hello old fart - love your eyes!! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 17, 2008, 12:01:53 AM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!

I live in Texas, too, and everyone I meet is familiar with the case.

Where are you Janet?  Im in New Braunfels.

I'm Jane.  Should have capitalized, and I see there is already a Janet here.

I'm in Round Rock.

Home of the Fighting Dragons.

I know, because I can hear all the home games, and the band practices at 6:30 AM.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 17, 2008, 12:02:22 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 12:02:59 AM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?
say that or an hour in and half..He stated he finished what he was doing in the back yard cleaned up. Then went and took a shower..I guess it depends on what he was doing outside and if it was a quick shower...My opinoin men are not big time keepers most are always late and say oh is it that time already..jmo
That is the reason Im asking about the time ....this place Im talking about is only 20 minutes away from the anthony;s home and she was in this vicinity......just after she borrowed the shovel and so Im wondering if maybe Caylees body was taken out of the backyard and put back in the trunk and then when she put the shovel in the trunk ...fluids from the bag got on the shovel.......and even then if she decided not to bury her at that time...maybe too much traffic or whatever and then took the shovel back it would still have DNA on it anyway.......
Yes. To much traffic and not enough guts to try it,So she waited till later...Mo that could work, yes it could


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:03:09 AM
Her friend Amy said she complained about the smell of the car and it was even mentioned in text messages.  That why I dont understand how Tony didnt ever smell something on her or on her stuff she brought into the apartment after she had been driving the car.  Maybe she loaded up on the perfume.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 12:03:24 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

good nite texas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 17, 2008, 12:03:30 AM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?
say that or an hour in and half..He stated he finished what he was doing in the back yard cleaned up. Then went and took a shower..I guess it depends on what he was doing outside and if it was a quick shower...My opinoin men are not big time keepers most are always late and say oh is it that time already..jmo
That is the reason Im asking about the time ....this place Im talking about is only 20 minutes away from the anthony;s home and she was in this vicinity......just after she borrowed the shovel and so Im wondering if maybe Caylees body was taken out of the backyard and put back in the trunk and then when she put the shovel in the trunk ...fluids from the bag got on the shovel.......and even then if she decided not to bury her at that time...maybe too much traffic or whatever and then took the shovel back it would still have DNA on it anyway.......
Exactly ! (now I'm really goin to bed!)  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 12:03:48 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

Your avitar makes me dizzy, I go right past it.  Nite   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:04:54 AM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Anna   - I agree odd that she would be having frozen food from home with her when Tony picked her up but I think we are talking totally different days.


Thanks, Klaas.  Just find the items from home freezer odd on any day and have always wondered if it was checked thoroughly with cadaver dogs, etc. as I do tend to believe there was possibly some movement of remains.  I wonder how often the Anthonys are into the freezer.  In some home, would be daily and others might be monthly but Casey would know.

Every thing about them looks sinister to me and when I see the freezer when the garage door is open, can't help wondering if it was checked but it likely has been and thoroughly.



That's another reason I don't think she was driving her own car to pick up that food.  How would her clothes and the food not get that odor absorbed. 

I think she wanted Tony to notice she had the frozen food and that it was not from a grocery but from her house.  Part of her plan worked because he did say it was not sacked from a grocery; however, his response on some post about whehter the food was frozen or thawed was something to the effect of he didn't touch it.  See, I think having this frozen food was supposed to mistakenly give the idea that her car had just run out of gas when she called him.  She did not want him to know the car had been there quite some time, I don't think.  Also, he mentioned that she was standing out waiting for him.  You are right...she didn't even want to sit in the car for a second and absorb that smell.  SOMEONE took her back to Amscot from "whoever's" house she had gotten the chicken from.  (I haven't gotten in to the pings yet so I'm not sure it was her mother's food although it probably was.)  The smell has been described as really being bad.  Have you ever walked into a convenience store for a coke or to pay for gas and come out smelling like fried chicken?  Maybe it's only a southern thing...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!

I live in Texas, too, and everyone I meet is familiar with the case.

Where are you Janet?  Im in New Braunfels.

I'm Jane.  Should have capitalized, and I see there is already a Janet here.

I'm in Round Rock.

Home of the Fighting Dragons.

I know, because I can hear all the home games, and the band practices at 6:30 AM.

Well it could be worse, you could be a unicorn!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 12:05:01 AM
Her friend Amy said she complained about the smell of the car and it was even mentioned in text messages.  That why I dont understand how Tony didnt ever smell something on her or on her stuff she brought into the apartment after she had been driving the car.  Maybe she loaded up on the perfume.

That would be like pouring perfume on a rotten egg, no wonder he went to NY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 17, 2008, 12:05:01 AM
Her friend Amy said she complained about the smell of the car and it was even mentioned in text messages.  That why I dont understand how Tony didnt ever smell something on her or on her stuff she brought into the apartment after she had been driving the car.  Maybe she loaded up on the perfume.

Or threw away the shopping bags?

Most guys don't smell all that well--that's how they manage to take that gulp of sour milk out of the carton before they realize that they could chew it up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 12:05:08 AM
HH. Thanks for the info..I'm off to bed now....Goodnight Monkey's!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:05:29 AM
Dana's show is now on podcast, trying to see what LP said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 12:05:47 AM
JoyJoy
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live

3 banana's please! LOL  JK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 12:06:33 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

WHAT DID YOU SAY? j/k

OH, YEA, GOOD NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 12:06:50 AM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 

Wonder how much BLOOD MONEY People Magazine paid the subhuman A couple?

It's all about the money, from day one!!!


I respect your right to have that opinion, but I have to disagree with you.  Also, it is my opinion that CA is crazy, GA is trying his best to stay in denial, LA... I'm not sure about him.  However, it is also my opinion that none of these people killed Caylee or caused her to go missing. 


I am seeing posts on forums about getting a law passed so that no one with a missing child can receive donations.  What a bunch of crap!  I would hate to see stupid law like that passed.  I'm sure most of you who feel that way do it because you just hate this particular family, but most families need financial assistance when there the tragedy of a missing person.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 12:07:57 AM
JoyJoy
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live

3 banana's please! LOL  JK

thanks junkie - i owe ya!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:08:10 AM
TY JOYJOY 
I have not had that nice of a compliment in a long, long time  :2redface:
but my eyes are bigger
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/eye_4th.gif)

HigherHopes

TY... I just hope the LE has managed to track her phone (not the calls).   
I do NOT think Casey would hardly shut her phone off  ... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:08:18 AM
Can anyone give me a link to murt's site

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:08:41 AM
You know, I don't honestly remember if I read this or dreamed this or perhaps I'm just going mental over this whole case.

For some reason I thought I had read somewhere that she used that shovel to break the lock on the shed that held the gas cans.  Does anyone else remember reading that anywhere?

that was one theory... Break the lock BUT  Cindy said (I think) that Casey was digging up Bamboo  .... What happend to the Bamboo  are there Bamboo  stumps / cut roots in the back yard..
Oh sorry   Pant, pant, ahhh  Hi Monkeys   :smt006

You're right.  Cindy did say that and Casey also told the neighbor that was why she wanted to borrow the shovel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:09:48 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

Nite TexasBarMom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:10:27 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 12:11:04 AM
Dana's show is now on podcast, trying to see what LP said.
KIMBER - will you be a sweet monkey and post a recap, pretty please with nanners on top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:11:44 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

Nite TexasBarMom
Also Klaas...I was wondering if you had heard anything about Zaneida sueing the Apartment Complex !   I didnt know that until today,...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 12:13:22 AM
Can anyone give me a link to murt's site

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live

thanks klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: janetruth on October 17, 2008, 12:13:50 AM
Night, everyone...

Key prints on my face.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:14:21 AM
He's talking about KC ordering pizza at Tony's house and then instead of putting the leftovers in the trash, she put it in her car to mask odor of decomp. Bag rolls around in trunk and gets DNA on outside of bag. Bag thrown away at tow yard. LE recovers it. Still listening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:14:47 AM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 

Wonder how much BLOOD MONEY People Magazine paid the subhuman A couple?

It's all about the money, from day one!!!


I respect your right to have that opinion, but I have to disagree with you.  Also, it is my opinion that CA is crazy, GA is trying his best to stay in denial, LA... I'm not sure about him.  However, it is also my opinion that none of these people killed Caylee or caused her to go missing. 


I am seeing posts on forums about getting a law passed so that no one with a missing child can receive donations.  What a bunch of crap!  I would hate to see stupid law like that passed.  I'm sure most of you who feel that way do it because you just hate this particular family, but most families need financial assistance when there the tragedy of a missing person.



But it does have to be about the money for the Anthonys.  Theyve already spent the 401K, theyve mortgaged the house a couple of time, they are in debt up to their eyeballs with lawyer fees and there is no way anyone will give them a job in the future.  They need money to survive and Caylee is their meal ticket. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:14:55 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:16:30 AM
which to my way of understanding ...is the reason the case is got hard evidence right now.....if the dirt from a certain location is found in the trunk...the shovel was put in the trunk......fluids from the bag got on the shovel and if they turn out to be Caylees DNA   then  even without a body you cant dispute that....because how else would the same fluids from her trunk....the same dirt from her undercariage.....show up on the shovel unless it all came into contact together....I hope Im making sense........ugggggg this stupid comp....


HH,

Are you now talking about the neighbor's shovel or Red's shovel?

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:16:35 AM
Good night to everyone going to bed!  For some reason im wired tonight  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:17:14 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

Nite TexasBarMom
Also Klaas...I was wondering if you had heard anything about Zaneida sueing the Apartment Complex !   I didnt know that until today,...

No but I wouldn't be surprised it she did.  The apartment complex somehow allowed her information to get out otherwise Casey wouldn't have had it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
He's talking about KC ordering pizza at Tony's house and then instead of putting the leftovers in the trash, she put it in her car to mask odor of decomp. Bag rolls around in trunk and gets DNA on outside of bag. Bag thrown away at tow yard. LE recovers it. Still listening.

AH, thanks Kimber


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:18:41 AM
LP getting in touch with people to get donations for Tim Miller. (Russell Fabish, bail bondsman-Linda Braswell PBUS-Bob Sable) He said whenever Tim gets ready to go.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 12:18:43 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

I wonder if she cleaned it off in the pool.  Just considering LP's theory of her retrieving Caylee with the shovel from the pool. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 12:19:08 AM
On Page 23 of the transcript Tony tells the interrogator about events encompassing the pickup at Amscot on June 27th.

Janet

+++++++

Transcript of Anthony Lazaro interview on July 22, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092308anthonylazzaro/indexGallery.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 12:19:09 AM
I was heading out til Kimber started posting...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:19:31 AM
ok I know ya'll don't care (because you mostly ignore me) but I must go to bed :-)  And please take it easy on the keyboards tonight so I don't have to read so many pages when I get up !! haha
 ::MonkeyHaHa::
gnite monkeys !

Nite TexasBarMom
Also Klaas...I was wondering if you had heard anything about Zaneida sueing the Apartment Complex !   I didnt know that until today,...

No but I wouldn't be surprised it she did.  The apartment complex somehow allowed her information to get out otherwise Casey wouldn't have had it.
Yes....thats one of the things that I did hear today is that she is sueing the Apartment complex for allowing private info to get distributed out........I think in the long run she will be the one with the money....LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:20:09 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Remember the neighbor said that the shovel was not dirty?  I wonder if she had used it in the pool and their tests show chloride on it?  Also, let me preface this by saying I know nothing about swimming pools...  If the pool had that much algae on it when Caylee died and she planned on getting her body soon, I wonder if she thought about weighting Caylee down in the pool under the algae?  I'm not even sure if it's called algae but remember that they only found an "indention" in the ground.  Perhaps it was too difficult to dig a hole and she put her in "plain sight" but concealed her at the same time. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:22:26 AM
He's talking about when he bailed her out, he thought she just took Caylee to get her away from the house. Then when the DNA results came back, Lp and Rob thought what have we done?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:22:39 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........

Edited to add:IIRC, someone (LP perhaps?) mentioned a possibility that someone had scooped her out of the pool with a shovel.  I didn't quite buy that but I could see her hiding her there for an afternoon...possibly also when fence is unlocked and ladder is placed...or...the fence and ladder were tinkered with when Caylee was moved to her car later.


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Remember the neighbor said that the shovel was not dirty?  I wonder if she had used it in the pool and their tests show chloride on it?  Also, let me preface this by saying I know nothing about swimming pools...  If the pool had that much algae on it when Caylee died and she planned on getting her body soon, I wonder if she thought about weighting Caylee down in the pool under the algae?  I'm not even sure if it's called algae but remember that they only found an "indention" in the ground.  Perhaps it was too difficult to dig a hole and she put her in "plain sight" but concealed her at the same time. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 12:23:18 AM
Night everyone.... my eyes are crossing and I am getting keyboard forehead....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:23:44 AM
Making another drop off to try to keep the Monkeys Aware of this

Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:24:54 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Remember the neighbor said that the shovel was not dirty?  I wonder if she had used it in the pool and their tests show chloride on it?  Also, let me preface this by saying I know nothing about swimming pools...  If the pool had that much algae on it when Caylee died and she planned on getting her body soon, I wonder if she thought about weighting Caylee down in the pool under the algae?  I'm not even sure if it's called algae but remember that they only found an "indention" in the ground.  Perhaps it was too difficult to dig a hole and she put her in "plain sight" but concealed her at the same time. 
Yes......and thats why im saying maybe she wiped it off ......also I dont think the pool was dirty until after Caylee went missing because before that they kept it clean so she could swim in it........I just know she left that house 20 minutes after she borrowed that shovel and its got to be important because why borrow a shovel and then leave and go out to a certain area and then return the shovel....it just dont make sense....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:25:12 AM
G'nite Cubbie
Give I holler if you travel North ... !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:26:23 AM
HH. Thanks for the info..I'm off to bed now....Goodnight Monkey's!


Good Night Mrs.Rocco.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tcumom on October 17, 2008, 12:26:29 AM
Heres an interesting website just in time for Halloween


http://darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html

Im surfing the net for a halloween costume for a party.  I dont think people would get it if I dressed up like Cindy and hubby dressed up like George.  But they do have those fake eye brows.

I work for a professional costumer, and will say, wear a wig like Cindy's hair, bad shorts and a "find Caylee" shirt, and carry a hammer and a roll of yellow tape.  Any time somebody wants to take your picture, call him a maggot.  George might have to carry a sign, unless he would be willing to go yelling "My granddaughter is ALIVE!" all night long.

Lmao!  If I lived in Florida I would definately do that!

I live in Texas, too, and everyone I meet is familiar with the case.

Where are you Janet?  Im in New Braunfels.

I'm Jane.  Should have capitalized, and I see there is already a Janet here.

I'm in Round Rock.

Home of the Fighting Dragons.

I know, because I can hear all the home games, and the band practices at 6:30 AM.
Georgetown ~ home of the good 'ole Inner Space Cavern


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:26:40 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Remember the neighbor said that the shovel was not dirty?  I wonder if she had used it in the pool and their tests show chloride on it?  Also, let me preface this by saying I know nothing about swimming pools...  If the pool had that much algae on it when Caylee died and she planned on getting her body soon, I wonder if she thought about weighting Caylee down in the pool under the algae?  I'm not even sure if it's called algae but remember that they only found an "indention" in the ground.  Perhaps it was too difficult to dig a hole and she put her in "plain sight" but concealed her at the same time. 

I remember people saying that they saw pictures of the pool all green with algae but the pictures i saw of the pool it was blue and clear and clean.  We have a pool and in the heat like in Texas and Florida it doesnt take long for a pool to get really ugly really fast if you are shocking it and dont have a steady flow of chlorine.  Their pool was an above ground so not sure if it had an automatic chlorinator like ours which is in ground.  The heat eats up chlorine really fast.  It could get soupy enough to hide a body in there without proper care if the body was weighted down.  I know in Texas there have been missing kids found in the bottom of a filthy pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 12:27:44 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:28:15 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........

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Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Remember the neighbor said that the shovel was not dirty?  I wonder if she had used it in the pool and their tests show chloride on it?  Also, let me preface this by saying I know nothing about swimming pools...  If the pool had that much algae on it when Caylee died and she planned on getting her body soon, I wonder if she thought about weighting Caylee down in the pool under the algae?  I'm not even sure if it's called algae but remember that they only found an "indention" in the ground.  Perhaps it was too difficult to dig a hole and she put her in "plain sight" but concealed her at the same time. 

b]Edited to add:[/b]IIRC, someone (LP perhaps?) mentioned a possibility that someone had scooped her out of the pool with a shovel.  I didn't quite buy that but I could see her hiding her there for an afternoon...possibly also when fence is unlocked and ladder is placed...or...the fence and ladder were tinkered with when Caylee was moved to her car later.

Sorry I messed someone's post up with my edit right in the middle...oops!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:28:26 AM
He's talking about when he bailed her out, he thought she just took Caylee to get her away from the house. Then when the DNA results came back, Lp and Rob thought what have we done?

Thanks again Kimber.  Yeah, I bet it was an eye opener for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:29:44 AM
He's talking about Todd Black admitting the child is dead. Now they are trying to backtrack. Trying to blame it on the media. Todd didn't mean to say that, but he said what he thought, The child is dead.
He wants the people in his industry to get involved and support Tim Miller and sometime in November he hopes they spring 2000 volenteers a mile long, walk across that part of Florida and find the child's remains!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:29:53 AM
Making another drop off to try to keep the Monkeys Aware of this

Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

Oh Klaasend / Other Mods  If I should not do this  type of drop off  please  warn me (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/reddog.gif)  before the RED Button  appears
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Oldfart - thank you for posting the info about the Clinton Nelson search.  Not many of the new members know about Clinton.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:31:15 AM
He's talking about Todd Black admitting the child is dead. Now they are trying to backtrack. Trying to blame it on the media. Todd didn't mean to say that, but he said what he thought, The child is dead.
He wants the people in his industry to get involved and support Tim Miller and sometime in November he hopes they spring 2000 volenteers a mile long, walk across that part of Florida and find the child's remains!

Thanks!  Hopefully the date the searches begin will be announced soon enough to get more volunteers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pinklady on October 17, 2008, 12:31:32 AM
Night everyone.... my eyes are crossing and I am getting keyboard forehead....

I must be getting tired too, cause that gave me the giggles  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........


Oh Thank You HH!!!!!!  It sounds like we just may be close to finding Angel Baby Caylee.  I so hope we can at least find that out before the trial.  Do you think the trial will be delayed past the 175 days?

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:33:02 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I know she borrowed the shovel about 2:30....and about 20 minutes later she was on econ and lake underhill and I went to this location today and it does take about 20 minutes to get to this place from the Anthony's.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 12:33:13 AM
OK     first of all...I talked to some  people today  and asked some questions and this didnt come from LE so no Im not leaking info........first I did find out that as far as all the questions about the gas and the gas cans go......apparently that has been ruled out as far as Casey burning anything.....so that took care of that question for me and with relief also................The reason I asked about the shovel and what the neighbor said is because I do now know that on the 18th...when Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor at somewhere around 2:30pm   about twenty minuts later she was in the vicinity of Econ lake and underhill.....which of course is one of the places that was searched at one time but also a very wet place.....I went to this area and it is a very easy to dig in location... I know I tried.....will give more info on the next post....sorry Im not use to typing on this comp....and its going slow....


Oh HH...
KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING, KEEP TALKING!!!!!!

pj :flower:

I'm very interested in what you are saying, but a little troubled by the time constraints. Didn't the neighbor say Casey brought the shovel back in about an hour?
say that or an hour in and half..He stated he finished what he was doing in the back yard cleaned up. Then went and took a shower..I guess it depends on what he was doing outside and if it was a quick shower...My opinoin men are not big time keepers most are always late and say oh is it that time already..jmo
That is the reason Im asking about the time ....this place Im talking about is only 20 minutes away from the anthony;s home and she was in this vicinity......just after she borrowed the shovel and so Im wondering if maybe Caylees body was taken out of the backyard and put back in the trunk and then when she put the shovel in the trunk ...fluids from the bag got on the shovel.......and even then if she decided not to bury her at that time...maybe too much traffic or whatever and then took the shovel back it would still have DNA on it anyway.......
Yes. To much traffic and not enough guts to try it,So she waited till later...Mo that could work, yes it could

Wouldn't the neighbor have seen her leave?  Because it sounded like he was kind of waiting on her to come back before he took his shower.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Kimber on October 17, 2008, 12:33:29 AM
I wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:35:55 AM
I wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!

Nite Kimber - thanks for transcribing LP on Dana!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FL Beagle Mom on October 17, 2008, 12:35:57 AM
The shamrock must have kind of meaning.  I would think Anthony is an Italian name and not an Irish name.  I will ask my kids, they are around Caseys age.
Actually the last name Anthony is of Latin decent.

I think that Cindy's side of the family might be Irish? Not sure.

St. Patty's day is one of my favorite hollidays though. :)

I think she likes shamrocks cuz her birthday is 3/19.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 12:36:32 AM
HH - thought this might help.
Here is the phone timeline from the 16 - 18th - including tower locations
Please feel free to add or change any info.  (my eyes are wearing out from the small print).....

June 16th

at home all morning
12:55 p.m. - Tony text KC (still at home)
1:00 pm - Tony called (talked 13 min) no longer at home
1:26 pm - called Jesse (no ans) back at home
1:27 - Jesse text KC - home
1:44 - called Amy (36 minutes) home
2:52 - Jesse called (11 min) home
3:04 - called George's cell -na - home
3:35 - called Tony - na - home
4:10 - called Cindy's wk - home
4:11 - 2 calls to Cindy's cell - still at home
4:13 - 2 calls to Cindy's cell - still at home
4:14 - called Cindy's work (2 min) home
4:18 - Text Tony (left home) around Orlando Hospital
4:19 - Tony text - OHosp
4:19 - called Jesse - na - Ohosp
4:21 - called Jesse (1 min) - Ohosp
4:25 - called Cindy's cell - na - Old Cheney Hwy
4:53 - Text ? - Old Cheney Hwy
5:57 pm - Text - (at or around Tony's)
6:31 - called Cindy's cell - tony's
6:32 - called Cindy's cell - Tony's
7:06 - called home (1 min) - tony's
7:20 - called Amy - na - Tony's
7:21 - called Amy (30 sec) - Tony's
8:03 - Hawkins called - na - (no area shown)
9:04 - Colonial Drive & Forsyth - TES Searched
10:45 - Colonial Drive & Forsyth - TES Searched
11:17 - Amy called  - na - Colonial Drive & Forsyth

     No other calls until...........

June 17th
11:05 a.m. - called Amy (8 minutes) - Tony's
11:27 - 11:30 Text from/to Amy - tony's
12:40 p.m. - text - still at tony's
2:12 - called Lexus Dealer - Tony's
2:18 - called Amy - Tony's
2:29 - called Ricardo (1 min) at home
2:44 -called Tony - na -
2:45 - called 1143 - na
2.45 - called 1143 - (4 sec) home
2:49 - Tony called (1 min) home
3:47 - Tony text KC - home
3:53 - KC text Tony - TCP - The industrial area I posted a couple of days ago
3:54 - Tony text KC - TCP (by airport)
3:55 - KC text Tony
3:55 - Tony text KC
3:56 - KC text Tony - Home
4:05 - calls Tony - na - home
4:36 - 5123 text KC - I believe Blanchard Park area
5:20 - called 9699 - Blanchard Park
5:23 - 9700 called KC - na - Blanchard Park
 nothing til
8:23 pm - text to casey - Tony's
8:38 - text to Tony - Tony's
texting people til 12:30 a.m. - still at Tony's


June 18th
7:55 a.m. - text - Old Cheney HWY
9:01 am - text - Old Cheney HWY
10:31 - back at Tonys
10:52 - text Cindy - Tonys
12:33 - called Cindys wk - Old Cheney HWY
12:34 - called Cindy's cell -na
12:35 - called home - na - Old Cheney HWY
12:36 - called Georges cell - na - Old Cheney HWY
1:09 p.m. - called Cindy's cell (2 min) Tony's
1:11 - called home (30 seconds) Tony's
2:05 - text Tony - tony's
2:42 - text - home
2:47  - Tony text - home
3:16 - called Tony twice - home
3:42 - Tony text - Tony's
3:42 - text Tony - tony's
4:10 - called Amy - na - Tony's
4:11 - called Amy (2 min)
4:13 - Called Cindy's work (2 min) - Tony's
4:27 - 3687 called (1.5 min) - Tony's
6:39 - called Cindy's cell (8 min) - Tony's
6:55 - called voicemail - Tony's
6:56 - Home called (1 min)
6:56 - called Voicemail
6:57 - called home (3 min) at Tony's

     no more phone calls until

June 19th

8:32 a.m. - text Tony - Old Cheney HWY
11:03 a.m. - Tony text - around Tony's




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:36:46 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........


Oh Thank You HH!!!!!!  It sounds like we just may be close to finding Angel Baby Caylee.  I so hope we can at least find that out before the trial.  Do you think the trial will be delayed past the 175 days?

PJ :flower:
I dont think it will,,,,,,,I think if they had the evidence in ebough order to convince the GJ to indict then they have what they need to go to trial.......but it is a lot to put together but Im sure they will have it ready by then.....I just wish baby Caylee would be found......that would really speed things up..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:37:45 AM
I wonder if she cleaned it off in the pool.  Just considering LP's theory of her retrieving Caylee with the shovel from the pool.  


And maybe that could account for HH's source thinking that perhaps  Caylee drowned in the pool.  If the shovel was cleaned off in the pool and placed in the car that seem reasonable for the pool water or chlorine to be mixed with fluids in the trunk.

P :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:38:54 AM
Wouldn't the neighbor have seen her leave?  Because it sounded like he was kind of waiting on her to come back before he took his shower.



Its my understanding that he went ahead and finished what he was doing in the back yard and then went to take a shower and told his kids if Casey came back to open the door and get the shovel.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:39:55 AM

<< snip >>
Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I am prob. 200% wrong... but all the info on phone call locations are based on the TOWER location  not Casey's phone..  Which would mean within a 2-3 mile area of the tower.
I did a Google Map / Street view of on locaction   long / lat.. and moved around a bit and could see a cell tower

A lot of Time & Effort as been put into doing the Ping maps  but I still think they are the Towers not Caseys phone..   LE  should have all the records from the towers to track her phone (if it was NOT off)  whether she made a call or not.
Sorry if this sounds Hissy ...  I just do not want people to think the phone records indicate a given spot when the call could have been a couple miles away..

Like I said... sorry for the tone ... and JMO
OldF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TxLady2 on October 17, 2008, 12:40:45 AM
Goodnight, folks... Tried to catch up, but just got the last 20 pages or so. We got a different computer desk and spent an hour rehooking everything... I'm surprised this thing still works! Everything is opposite from what I'm used to... keyboard is higher, and my mouse is in the wrong place. Gonna rearrange things tomorrow!!

I hope they find little Caylee soon... just so this family can have some closure and so she can be properly laid to rest. It's not right that the little angel is not buried properly!
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:41:53 AM
Night everyone.... my eyes are crossing and I am getting keyboard forehead....


Good Night Cubbeegirl, Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 12:44:16 AM

<< snip >>
Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I am prob. 200% wrong... but all the info on phone call locations are based on the TOWER location  not Casey's phone..  Which would mean within a 2-3 mile area of the tower.
I did a Google Map / Street view of on locaction   long / lat.. and moved around a bit and could see a cell tower

A lot of Time & Effort as been put into doing the Ping maps  but I still think they are the Towers not Caseys phone..   LE  should have all the records from the towers to track her phone (if it was NOT off)  whether she made a call or not.
Sorry if this sounds Hissy ...  I just do not want people to think the phone records indicate a given spot when the call could have been a couple miles away..

Like I said... sorry for the tone ... and JMO
OldF


I think your tone is always sweet.

Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 12:44:43 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I know she borrowed the shovel about 2:30....and about 20 minutes later she was on econ and lake underhill and I went to this location today and it does take about 20 minutes to get to this place from the Anthony's.....

HH, not arguing with you, but how do you know where she was?  I'm looking at Casey's cell records right now and I'm not seeing the same thing.  So, I'm assuming you have some other reason????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:45:03 AM
Klaas....I also wanted to know if you saw the video of the night Casey was arrested  about the Black guy.....whats his name....that was always out in front of the Anthonys house.......he was also out in front of the Sherriffs department .....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 12:45:27 AM
Yes......and thats why im saying maybe she wiped it off ......also I dont think the pool was dirty until after Caylee went missing because before that they kept it clean so she could swim in it........I just know she left that house 20 minutes after she borrowed that shovel and its got to be important because why borrow a shovel and then leave and go out to a certain area and then return the shovel....it just dont make sense....

It really does get my mind racing though.  It is very peculiar.  I wonder if LE is thinking of this with the timeline?  What do you hear about that without saying too much?

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 12:46:09 AM
Night everyone.... my eyes are crossing and I am getting keyboard forehead....

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Night Cubbeegirl.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 12:46:24 AM
HH - are you talking about the 17th or the 18th?  I believe those pings are from the 17th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:46:59 AM
HH, not arguing with you, but how do you know where she was?  I'm looking at Casey's cell records right now and I'm not seeing the same thing.  So, I'm assuming you have some other reason????????


Yes I do and I found out today that that is where she was .......but give me a minute and I will see if I cant find something to show you where it says that.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:47:54 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 12:48:22 AM

<< snip >>
Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I am prob. 200% wrong... but all the info on phone call locations are based on the TOWER location  not Casey's phone..  Which would mean within a 2-3 mile area of the tower.
I did a Google Map / Street view of on locaction   long / lat.. and moved around a bit and could see a cell tower

A lot of Time & Effort as been put into doing the Ping maps  but I still think they are the Towers not Caseys phone..   LE  should have all the records from the towers to track her phone (if it was NOT off)  whether she made a call or not.
Sorry if this sounds Hissy ...  I just do not want people to think the phone records indicate a given spot when the call could have been a couple miles away..

Like I said... sorry for the tone ... and JMO
OldF



I agree with you completely, OldFart (love saying that).  That is why I don't interpret them that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:49:15 AM
Klaas....I also wanted to know if you saw the video of the night Casey was arrested  about the Black guy.....whats his name....that was always out in front of the Anthonys house.......he was also out in front of the Sherriffs department .....

I'm sure I saw it but I don't remember that much about the guy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 12:49:36 AM

<< snip >>
Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I am prob. 200% wrong... but all the info on phone call locations are based on the TOWER location  not Casey's phone..  Which would mean within a 2-3 mile area of the tower.
I did a Google Map / Street view of on locaction   long / lat.. and moved around a bit and could see a cell tower

A lot of Time & Effort as been put into doing the Ping maps  but I still think they are the Towers not Caseys phone..   LE  should have all the records from the towers to track her phone (if it was NOT off)  whether she made a call or not.
Sorry if this sounds Hissy ...  I just do not want people to think the phone records indicate a given spot when the call could have been a couple miles away..

Like I said... sorry for the tone ... and JMO

OldF


good point


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 12:50:19 AM
HH, not arguing with you, but how do you know where she was?  I'm looking at Casey's cell records right now and I'm not seeing the same thing.  So, I'm assuming you have some other reason????????


Yes I do and I found out today that that is where she was .......but give me a minute and I will see if I cant find something to show you where it says that.....

Okay, good because even though BB can't recall if it was the 18th or 19th, I don't see her going to her parents at all on the 19th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:50:47 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 12:51:42 AM
Klaas....I also wanted to know if you saw the video of the night Casey was arrested  about the Black guy.....whats his name....that was always out in front of the Anthonys house.......he was also out in front of the Sherriffs department .....

I'm sure I saw it but I don't remember that much about the guy. 
He  made a complete idiot of himself....he was crying and saying what a sad day it was and then he asked a woman if she thought the baby was dead and when she said yes....he said well then go out and find her.......the police ran him off  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TOY on October 17, 2008, 12:57:06 AM
Off to hear Dana.

Sweet dreams, everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 12:57:33 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 12:57:43 AM
Head Out .. for the night

HH
If you think about it ... ask your Friend if they can find out How Long Cell Tower Information from phones (NOT CALLS) has to be maintained by a Carrier In FL. amd if that is up to the Carrier or State to State issue
Thanks...
OldF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:58:11 AM
Klaas....I also wanted to know if you saw the video of the night Casey was arrested  about the Black guy.....whats his name....that was always out in front of the Anthonys house.......he was also out in front of the Sherriffs department .....

I'm sure I saw it but I don't remember that much about the guy. 
He  made a complete idiot of himself....he was crying and saying what a sad day it was and then he asked a woman if she thought the baby was dead and when she said yes....he said well then go out and find her.......the police ran him off  lol

HH these kinds of cases attract plenty of nuts.  I really don't pay them much attention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 12:59:10 AM
Nite DR and Oldfart!

I'm off to go play a couple of games, will check back in a bit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 12:59:37 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

JMO, having been in the awful position of losing someone very close, I think some - not all, but some - of his and Cindy's actions are due to shock.  Denial, shock, grief.   Makes you say and do things you just wouldn't ordinarily do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mtnmom on October 17, 2008, 01:01:37 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news

wow first time Ive heard there PI s name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:02:14 AM
HH, not arguing with you, but how do you know where she was?  I'm looking at Casey's cell records right now and I'm not seeing the same thing.  So, I'm assuming you have some other reason????????


Yes I do and I found out today that that is where she was .......but give me a minute and I will see if I cant find something to show you where it says that.....


Okay, so I guess someone told you this.  I just think that is really far away from where her phone was pinging or maybe it just looks far away on the map.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 01:02:33 AM
OH  in case in late night Monkeys want back ground music while catching up   ....  :smt020  a live stream from Sherevport LA ( I think ) http://www.k945.com/common/gap_streamer.php

SeeYaaByee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:03:31 AM
HH, not arguing with you, but how do you know where she was?  I'm looking at Casey's cell records right now and I'm not seeing the same thing.  So, I'm assuming you have some other reason????????


Yes I do and I found out today that that is where she was .......but give me a minute and I will see if I cant find something to show you where it says that.....

Okay, good because even though BB can't recall if it was the 18th or 19th, I don't see her going to her parents at all on the 19th.
no   this was the 18 th that she was at her parents house and then approx,,,,25 minutes later she was at Econ trail and lake underhill.........I dont know how to put the video feed onhere....help and I will...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:04:54 AM
Head Out .. for the night

HH
If you think about it ... ask your Friend if they can find out How Long Cell Tower Information from phones (NOT CALLS) has to be maintained by a Carrier In FL. amd if that is up to the Carrier or State to State issue
Thanks...
OldF
OK   will do....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 01:05:15 AM
Not sure if any of you have seen this ... it's by Rick (Cindys' Brother) very interesting read to say the least ....

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/people-who-know-the-anthonys/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:09:40 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie

Thank you old fart!  Did you see the one for the 15th & 16th - was it you that was asking about that a few days ago? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:10:48 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Thank You OurAngelCaylee .  That was the first I had seen this interview with George.  I am just boggled with his belief at this point.  I simply wish that their was another person's decay in the trunk of the car so he would have a reason to feel like he does.  Oh but I hope TES and Murt and anyone else that goes out this weekend has success finding our sweet Caylee.  Thank You again for sharing this link!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:12:23 AM
Night everyone.... my eyes are crossing and I am getting keyboard forehead....

I must be getting tired too, cause that gave me the giggles  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Good Night PinkLady.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:13:47 AM
HH - was there a broadcast today that I missed?  I've been running some errands, so didn't even get to watch NG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 01:13:47 AM
statement by Cindys brother

Cindy arrived the day before the wedding with Casey. Casey was wearing a tight fitting top and her belly was visibly extended with her navel protruding a good 1/2 inch. I ask Cindy and George when we were alone “do you have some news to tell me about Casey,” and they what are you talking about. I said you know, she pregnant. They look at me like I was crazy. They say no way. I said she is pregnant I would bet on it. They said that they ask her and Casey told them that she would have to have had sex to be pregnant. They believed her. Everyone on my wife’s side of the family said who is the pregnant girl. Even my wife’s sons and her daughter asked. It was ridiculous. I told them to take her to a doctor. They finally did in July. She was nearly 8 months then!
Talk about telling a lie. That is when i saw the first evidence of what a liar Casey was.


And after that the Anthonys believe Caseys nanny story....amazing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:14:17 AM
I wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!


Good Night Kimber.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 01:15:36 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Thank You OurAngelCaylee .  That was the first I had seen this interview with George.  I am just boggled with his belief at this point.  I simply wish that their was another person's decay in the trunk of the car so he would have a reason to feel like he does.  Oh but I hope TES and Murt and anyone else that goes out this weekend has success finding our sweet Caylee.  Thank You again for sharing this link!

PJ :flower:

Your Welcome PJ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 01:16:09 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I know she borrowed the shovel about 2:30....and about 20 minutes later she was on econ and lake underhill and I went to this location today and it does take about 20 minutes to get to this place from the Anthony's.....

According to the transcript of Brian Burner's interview ... Casey borrowed the shovel from him around 1:30 PM and returned it around 2:30 PM.

Janet

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Transcript of Brian Burner interview on July 30, 2008

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: JOYJOY on October 17, 2008, 01:17:57 AM
Good night all monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:20:26 AM

<< snip >>
Are you basing this off of cell phone pings?  If so, then I need to recheck my map because I have her on South Goldenrod on the 18th.  Also, I'm having trouble pulling up BB's interview, but I thought he wasn't sure of the exact date.  I'll keep trying... something wrong with my Adobe.
I am prob. 200% wrong... but all the info on phone call locations are based on the TOWER location  not Casey's phone..  Which would mean within a 2-3 mile area of the tower.
I did a Google Map / Street view of on locaction   long / lat.. and moved around a bit and could see a cell tower

A lot of Time & Effort as been put into doing the Ping maps  but I still think they are the Towers not Caseys phone..   LE  should have all the records from the towers to track her phone (if it was NOT off)  whether she made a call or not.
Sorry if this sounds Hissy ...  I just do not want people to think the phone records indicate a given spot when the call could have been a couple miles away..

Like I said... sorry for the tone ... and JMO
OldF



OldF,

You have nothing to apologize for at all.  It doesn't take much for me to get my hopes up.  I also know that LE is waaaaay ahead of me.  Heavens, It took me until this evening to get caught up.  I'll be back in the same position (20+ pages behind) by the time I get up tomorrow or really later today.  Thank You for your take on the cell pings.  Sometimes I tend to forget it isn't as easy as looking at a list of phone numbers.

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Jennibear8682 on October 17, 2008, 01:20:57 AM
Good Evening, Monkeys,
I can't even begin to keep up in this thread but have a couple of thoughts/questions for consideration.  Maybe someone else has some info.

Did the cadaver dogs check the garage?  Remember the neighbor said Casey backed the car into the garage which was unusual.  Then she appears later when Tony picks her up to have items from a freezer with her?  Did she remove them when she backed the car into the garage to make more room in the freezer for some reason?  Could that have been the temporary storage place for her daughter until she could return and relocate the remains? 

Just seemed odd to me that Casey was running about with frozen food items from home freezer.  She seemed much more into shopping for all new things.





Anna   - I agree odd that she would be having frozen food from home with her when Tony picked her up but I think we are talking totally different days.


Thanks, Klaas.  Just find the items from home freezer odd on any day and have always wondered if it was checked thoroughly with cadaver dogs, etc. as I do tend to believe there was possibly some movement of remains.  I wonder how often the Anthonys are into the freezer.  In some home, would be daily and others might be monthly but Casey would know.

Every thing about them looks sinister to me and when I see the freezer when the garage door is open, can't help wondering if it was checked but it likely has been and thoroughly.



That's another reason I don't think she was driving her own car to pick up that food.  How would her clothes and the food not get that odor absorbed. 

I think she wanted Tony to notice she had the frozen food and that it was not from a grocery but from her house.  Part of her plan worked because he did say it was not sacked from a grocery; however, his response on some post about whehter the food was frozen or thawed was something to the effect of he didn't touch it.  See, I think having this frozen food was supposed to mistakenly give the idea that her car had just run out of gas when she called him.  She did not want him to know the car had been there quite some time, I don't think.  Also, he mentioned that she was standing out waiting for him.  You are right...she didn't even want to sit in the car for a second and absorb that smell.  SOMEONE took her back to Amscot from "whoever's" house she had gotten the chicken from.  (I haven't gotten in to the pings yet so I'm not sure it was her mother's food although it probably was.)  The smell has been described as really being bad.  Have you ever walked into a convenience store for a coke or to pay for gas and come out smelling like fried chicken?  Maybe it's only a southern thing...lol


Haha!  It's too funny that you said that about smelling like fried chicken.  I live in the south also and they cook chicken at alot of convenience stores here.  I refuse to stop at one on my way to work or when I've just taken a shower because I don't want to smell like old grease or fried food all day!  lol

I think you're right on about her not driving to the Amscot with the food in the car.  Her hair and clothing would have absorbed the smell even if she were only in the car for a couple of minutes.  It's kind of like walking through someone's smoke cloud on the sidewalk, it's drawn into your clothes and hair and the smell follows you all day!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:21:23 AM
Goodnight, folks... Tried to catch up, but just got the last 20 pages or so. We got a different computer desk and spent an hour rehooking everything... I'm surprised this thing still works! Everything is opposite from what I'm used to... keyboard is higher, and my mouse is in the wrong place. Gonna rearrange things tomorrow!!

I hope they find little Caylee soon... just so this family can have some closure and so she can be properly laid to rest. It's not right that the little angel is not buried properly!
 


Good Night TexasLady.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:21:24 AM
HH - was there a broadcast today that I missed?  I've been running some errands, so didn't even get to watch NG.
no    just something that I found out but I now have a video clip but I just dont know how to put it on here...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Jennibear8682 on October 17, 2008, 01:24:25 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

I wonder if she cleaned it off in the pool.  Just considering LP's theory of her retrieving Caylee with the shovel from the pool. 

That's a good thought...maybe she did clean the shovel off in the pool, thinking the chemicals in the pool would wash away/destroy any DNA/body fluid from the shovel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:24:32 AM
HH - thanks for everything your doing - I can just picture you out there digging ::MonkeyHaHa::

Can you ask your friend about June 30th - July 1st at 4:00 am she was in the area of - well, if you are able to look at the following map - I think it is #11


 http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.55518~-81.242609&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5214739&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.55518~-81.242609&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5214739&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:25:49 AM
According to the transcript of Brian Burner's interview ... Casey borrowed the shovel from him around 1:30 PM and returned it around 2:30 PM.

Janet........I have a newer version of the time line or whatever its called and now they are saying she borrowed it at around 2:30.......I am trying to post it on here but i cant figure it out...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 01:27:03 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news

wow first time Ive heard there PI s name.

This PI is 2 steps away from bringing Caylee he told George.....but he needs help....WTF??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:27:20 AM
OH  in case in late night Monkeys want back ground music while catching up   ....  :smt020  a live stream from Sherevport LA ( I think ) http://www.k945.com/common/gap_streamer.php

SeeYaaByee


Good Night OF.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:27:25 AM
HH - this would have been the first night Tony was in NY - and she did not stay at Amy's.  Earlier, like 1:00 am she was in Blanchard Park.  She was also driving Tony's truck I believe.  Have they tested his truck?  Sorry for all the questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:27:57 AM
HH - thanks for everything your doing - I can just picture you out there digging ::MonkeyHaHa::

Can you ask your friend about June 30th - July 1st at 4:00 am she was in the area of - well, if you are able to look at the following map - I think it is #11


 http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.55518~-81.242609&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5214739&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.55518~-81.242609&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5214739&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: IMissThirdGrade on October 17, 2008, 01:31:42 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news

wow first time Ive heard there PI s name.

This PI is 2 steps away from bringing Caylee he told George.....but he needs help....WTF??


Yeah, sad isn't it?  Now some scuzbucket PI is milking George for his money.

Honestly, the child needs to be found for many reasons, but this man is going to have a nervous breakdown if we don't find Caylee quick.

Casey will never tell the truth, she will never plead out of this, she will let everyone in her family become desperate, destroyed, and non functioning.  I don't believe she killed Caylee in the premeditated first degree, but this SLORE deserves life in prison...so in one sense I'm very glad she won't/can't be convinced to tell the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:32:15 AM
According to the transcript of Brian Burner's interview ... Casey borrowed the shovel from him around 1:30 PM and returned it around 2:30 PM.

Janet........I have a newer version of the time line or whatever its called and now they are saying she borrowed it at around 2:30.......I am trying to post it on here but i cant figure it out...

HH - the pings show her at/around home at 2:29 pm - 2:49 - then nothing til 3:47pm and she's back at home.til 4:05 pm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:33:06 AM
HH - was there a broadcast today that I missed?  I've been running some errands, so didn't even get to watch NG.
no    just something that I found out but I now have a video clip but I just dont know how to put it on here...


You guys are trying to confuse this little old woman, aren't you?

HH, did you see Janet's post above about the shovel being returned to BB by 2:30?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:33:20 AM
HH - this would have been the first night Tony was in NY - and she did not stay at Amy's.  Earlier, like 1:00 am she was in Blanchard Park.  She was also driving Tony's truck I believe.  Have they tested his truck?  Sorry for all the questions.
I asked that question myself and all I got was ..  the truck is fine.........and so I am thinking this means yes.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 01:34:00 AM
MURT is going to be streaming live around 12ish on Saturday.  He plans on checking some of the locations people have mentioned on his site.  He is also going to the site the guy on the news spoke of -- the one of casey wearing the straw hat and red glasses. 
Klaas - can you remind folks Saturday at noon???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:35:19 AM
HH - the times I posted were for the 17th - is that not the right day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 01:35:23 AM
MURT is going to be streaming live around 12ish on Saturday.  He plans on checking some of the locations people have mentioned on his site.  He is also going to the site the guy on the news spoke of -- the one of casey wearing the straw hat and red glasses. 
Klaas - can you remind folks Saturday at noon???????


Wow, very cool.  Yes I'll make a note of it and remind everyone Saturday around noon.  I take it's noon ET?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:37:10 AM
HH - the times I posted were for the 17th - is that not the right day?
no Im talking about the 18th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:37:42 AM
According to the transcript of Brian Burner's interview ... Casey borrowed the shovel from him around 1:30 PM and returned it around 2:30 PM.

Janet........I have a newer version of the time line or whatever its called and now they are saying she borrowed it at around 2:30.......I am trying to post it on here but i cant figure it out...

HH - the pings show her at/around home at 2:29 pm - 2:49 - then nothing til 3:47pm and she's back at home.til 4:05 pm.

At 4:11 pm she could be at Lake Underhill.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: m2kfl on October 17, 2008, 01:39:02 AM
Hello everyone. I have been busy so I have not been able to post here lately. As some may have heard, there was a witness who said he saw someone who looked like Casey come out of the woods down by the airport. I plan on going to that spot and do a live webcast of the area and look around. I also will be taking an underwater camera with me to look in the canal near the railroad bridge.

MURT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:41:12 AM
HH - was there a broadcast today that I missed?  I've been running some errands, so didn't even get to watch NG.
no    just something that I found out but I now have a video clip but I just dont know how to put it on here...


You guys are trying to confuse this little old woman, aren't you?

HH, did you see Janet's post above about the shovel being returned to BB by 2:30?
No mame....I wouldnt do that for nothing in the world.......but Im just trying to say that the way the way that this place has tracked them it says somewhere around 2:45 I think she was at the location of Econ trail and Lake underhill....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 01:41:25 AM
Hello everyone. I have been busy so I have not been able to post here lately. As some may have heard, there was a witness who said he saw someone who looked like Casey come out of the woods down by the airport. I plan on going to that spot and do a live webcast of the area and look around. I also will be taking an underwater camera with me to look in the canal near the railroad bridge.

MURT

MURT - I added a link to your site in my signature line and a reminder about Saturday, I hope you don't mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 01:41:45 AM
Hello everyone. I have been busy so I have not been able to post here lately. As some may have heard, there was a witness who said he saw someone who looked like Casey come out of the woods down by the airport. I plan on going to that spot and do a live webcast of the area and look around. I also will be taking an underwater camera with me to look in the canal near the railroad bridge.

MURT

Murt,

is this rumor or facts ? about the witness who said he saw someone who looked like casey coming out of the woods down by the airport ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:42:25 AM
Hello everyone. I have been busy so I have not been able to post here lately. As some may have heard, there was a witness who said he saw someone who looked like Casey come out of the woods down by the airport. I plan on going to that spot and do a live webcast of the area and look around. I also will be taking an underwater camera with me to look in the canal near the railroad bridge.

MURT
Thats great...............im looking forward to it.......count me in!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 01:43:13 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 01:44:17 AM

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
10:45 PM PT



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:44:58 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!
GOODNIGHT..............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:45:13 AM
HH - the times I posted were for the 17th - is that not the right day?
no Im talking about the 18th
:gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:45:26 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!

Nite Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:46:14 AM
Goodnight Klaas - see you tomorrow.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 01:46:15 AM

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
10:45 PM PT



Nite Janet!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:47:45 AM
HH - the times I posted were for the 17th - is that not the right day?
no Im talking about the 18th
:gaah:
::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:48:06 AM
HH - we are talking  around 2:30 right on the 18th - is this area from the pings?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 01:48:13 AM

[/quote]
Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
[/quote]My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...
[/quote]

Hope he didn't say you were crazy as a sprayed roadh (love that)!  Thanks for all your hard work.  What are you trying to post that you can't figure out?  My email is in my profile if you want some help!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FL Beagle Mom on October 17, 2008, 01:49:11 AM

I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I am not gonna fall for this again George!  Goodness.... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:50:54 AM

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
[/quote]My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...
[/quote]

Hope he didn't say you were crazy as a sprayed roadh (love that)!  Thanks for all your hard work.  What are you trying to post that you can't figure out?  My email is in my profile if you want some help!

Karen
[/quote]Im trying to post the new video that I got today that shows what I presume to be a new timeline of the pings and I cant figure out how to post the line for it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:52:27 AM

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
[/quote]My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...
[/quote]

Hope he didn't say you were crazy as a sprayed roadh (love that)!  Thanks for all your hard work.  What are you trying to post that you can't figure out?  My email is in my profile if you want some help!

Karen
[/quote]

were looking at the date that KC borrowed the shovel - I thought Brian stated it could be the 17th or the 18th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:52:29 AM
HH - we are talking  around 2:30 right on the 18th - is this area from the pings?
Yes .... a local business did the tracing and Im trying to post it here but I dont know how mon this computor...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 01:53:14 AM
HH,
Is the video on a website? If so just highlight the web address with your mouse, right click on it, click copy. Then start a post to SM, right click your mouse and click paste. The link to the video will appear here to show us in your post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:53:59 AM

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...
[/quote]

Hope he didn't say you were crazy as a sprayed roadh (love that)!  Thanks for all your hard work.  What are you trying to post that you can't figure out?  My email is in my profile if you want some help!

Karen
[/quote]

were looking at the date that KC borrowed the shovel - I thought Brian stated it could be the 17th or the 18th?
[/quote]they are saying it was the 18th now........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 01:54:22 AM
:smt006 Monkeys  Good evening to all.

I need to go back and try speed reading to get caught up   but wanted to drop this off
and hope is gets bumped along at times 
 
Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

TIA





Bumpity Bump, with prayers the search is fruitful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:54:23 AM

Try to find out if this has been searched - or if the map is so old and now it is all residential or what.  TIA Jackie
My sone thought I was crazy when I got out with my little spade shovel,,,,,he said OMG.....now we will prolly go to jail for tampering with evidence....lolo  like we knew where anything was....I was like  I just wanna see how hard the fround is...
[/quote]

Hope he didn't say you were crazy as a sprayed roadh (love that)!  Thanks for all your hard work.  What are you trying to post that you can't figure out?  My email is in my profile if you want some help!

Karen
[/quote]Im trying to post the new video that I got today that shows what I presume to be a new timeline of the pings and I cant figure out how to post the line for it...
[/quote]

can we help you with something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 01:55:31 AM
are you just having trouble posting the link or is it the computer you are using?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 01:56:02 AM

Im trying to post the new video that I got today that shows what I presume to be a new timeline of the pings and I cant figure out how to post the line for it...
[/quote]

Is the video on a cd or on your computer?  or is it on the web some place?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 01:56:20 AM
HH,
Is the video on a website? If so just highlight the web address with your mouse, right click on it, click copy. Then start a post to SM, right click your mouse and click paste. The link to the video will appear here to show us in your post.
Ok   Im gonna try again.......I guess Im better at digging and talking then posting things......THANK YOU


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:01:33 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 02:01:43 AM
HH,
Is the video on a website? If so just highlight the web address with your mouse, right click on it, click copy. Then start a post to SM, right click your mouse and click paste. The link to the video will appear here to show us in your post.
Ok   Im gonna try again.......I guess Im better at digging and talking then posting things......THANK YOU

I just checked photobucket.com and you can post videos there.  If video is on your puter as opposed to a web site, upload the video to photobucket.  copy the recommended tags and past in your post. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mytime on October 17, 2008, 02:03:29 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:03:45 AM
HH,
Is the video on a website? If so just highlight the web address with your mouse, right click on it, click copy. Then start a post to SM, right click your mouse and click paste. The link to the video will appear here to show us in your post.
Ok   Im gonna try again.......I guess Im better at digging and talking then posting things......THANK YOU

I just checked photobucket.com and you can post videos there.  If video is on your puter as opposed to a web site, upload the video to photobucket.  copy the recommended tags and past in your post. 
O/T I just have to tell you Sparkenator, that dog is just too dog gone cute!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:04:45 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!
MT sorry you're sick, I hope you feel better soon. Yes, get good rest!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:05:11 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:05:27 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!
wait before you go

was this who he saw?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mytime on October 17, 2008, 02:05:59 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!
MT sorry you're sick, I hope you feel better soon. Yes, get good rest!!!

Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 02:06:33 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!

Nite nite Mytime!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:07:42 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#
Ok   maybe I did this right....now go down to the 17th video that says phone pings tracked and  its the 17th from the top ....this is a site that my friend said is the correct time for the pings...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mytime on October 17, 2008, 02:07:50 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!
wait before you go

was this who he saw?

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:08:00 AM
wow how can they ignore me with that one?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:08:37 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#
Okay..is it the Timeline Questioned video in the long list on the right handside?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:09:54 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#
Okay..is it the Timeline Questioned video in the long list on the right handside?
Nevermind..LOL Just saw your post above! And you're welcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:10:06 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#
Okay..is it the Timeline Questioned video in the long list on the right handside?
phone records tracked on the right hand side...yes....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:10:29 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:12:08 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 02:13:44 AM
wow how can they ignore me with that one?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um uh you skeered me with the big picture.  WHo is dat?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mytime on October 17, 2008, 02:14:05 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!

Nite nite Mytime!!

Night Da Sparkenator -you dog is so cute!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:14:45 AM
wow how can they ignore me with that one?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um uh you skeered me with the big picture.  WHo is dat?
random photo from online,  straw hat red suns.  Sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 02:15:14 AM
Hey MM, FG, 515- just lurking for a few. I am sick and need to go back to bed.  Yes, MM too many cigs, and not nearly enough sleep. Just wanted to say hi!  Talk to you later!

Nite nite Mytime!!

Night Da Sparkenator -you dog is so cute!!

Oh thank you and he's at my feet fight right now (minus the sock monkey outfit)!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:17:38 AM
HH - yeah they haven't released the pings (during no activity of calls or texts) we're just seeing the pings while it was in use.  It would be nice to have all of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:19:21 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............

Me too!!

On that video they are confirming what I have for ping locations, etc.  But that was after she returned the shovel to BB.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 02:20:19 AM
I wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!

Kimber - thank you for the update on what LP said on Dana's show last night.  How did we miss a dana show -  :smt022 :smt022  But you saved the day with this scoop till I can listen to the tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:20:47 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............

Me too!!

On that video they are confirming what I have for ping locations, etc.  But that was after she returned the shovel to BB.

you have the same pings that they are saying on that video?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:23:30 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............

Me too!!

On that video they are confirming what I have for ping locations, etc.  But that was after she returned the shovel to BB.

you have the same pings that they are saying on that video?

I'm thinking the area your talking about was during a silent time.  That's what it sounded like and we don't have those.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:23:49 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............

Me too!!

On that video they are confirming what I have for ping locations, etc.  But that was after she returned the shovel to BB.

you have the same pings that they are saying on that video?

Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:25:56 AM
Between the stacking and the photo I put on we should be in a new cage pretty soon.. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:27:56 AM
HH, I am trying to visualize you digging around in the ground.  Now, what if you had found something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.local6.com/news/17300779/detail.html#

What am I supposed to be looking for at this link?

Where is my BOMBSHELL?
oooppppsss sorry  I didnt mean to do that......I meant to say if I had found something I wouldnt be on here right now..........I would have fainted..............

Me too!!

On that video they are confirming what I have for ping locations, etc.  But that was after she returned the shovel to BB.

you have the same pings that they are saying on that video?

I'm thinking the area your talking about was during a silent time.  That's what it sounded like and we don't have those.
Ok    then she got something on the borrowed shovel from the backyard because I know it had something on it and she returned it only after she got Caylee out of the backyard and put her into the trunk and then she drove to the lake underwood location...............and from what I gather she was there for awhile....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:28:14 AM
 ::MonkeyConfused::

I had all of them but the last one at Underhill & Econ.  and I still don't see it on this sheet.  I have not done a map yet but the pings on the sheet are close but not from that tower.  It sounded like he was saying that ping at econ was during the quiet time - which we aren't privy to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:28:37 AM
Between the stacking and the photo I put on we should be in a new cage pretty soon.. 
Yes, that photo was humongous!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:30:04 AM
::MonkeyConfused::

I had all of them but the last one at Underhill & Econ.  and I still don't see it on this sheet.  I have not done a map yet but the pings on the sheet are close but not from that tower.  It sounded like he was saying that ping at econ was during the quiet time - which we aren't privy to.
Yes, the video mentioned when the phone was silent until she returned to Tony's apartment area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:30:25 AM
::MonkeyConfused::

I had all of them but the last one at Underhill & Econ.  and I still don't see it on this sheet.  I have not done a map yet but the pings on the sheet are close but not from that tower.  It sounded like he was saying that ping at econ was during the quiet time - which we aren't privy to.

It looks like something has been leaked by somebody and I won't say any names.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: da sparkenator on October 17, 2008, 02:31:50 AM
Good Night everyone! 

sparks/karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:31:57 AM
::MonkeyConfused::

I had all of them but the last one at Underhill & Econ.  and I still don't see it on this sheet.  I have not done a map yet but the pings on the sheet are close but not from that tower.  It sounded like he was saying that ping at econ was during the quiet time - which we aren't privy to.

It looks like something has been leaked by somebody and I won't say any names.   ::MonkeyRoll::
It actually looks like the news station received all pings but they weren't released to the public. Except of course via their news story!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:32:07 AM
::MonkeyConfused::

I had all of them but the last one at Underhill & Econ.  and I still don't see it on this sheet.  I have not done a map yet but the pings on the sheet are close but not from that tower.  It sounded like he was saying that ping at econ was during the quiet time - which we aren't privy to.
Thats where one of the searches were and it is a really wet location....well it was then...it has dryed up some but from what I have been told it is a area that is really being looked at....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:32:28 AM
Good Night everyone! 

sparks/karen
Goodnight Karen and Sparks too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:32:38 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 02:32:57 AM
Good Night everyone! 

sparks/karen

Goodnite sparky/Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:33:00 AM
I see it - I was just concentrating on econ instead of 417 - YES we have them - whew.  FL Grammy have you found out anymore about 4058 while we're at it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:33:15 AM
Good Night everyone! 

sparks/karen
Goodnight Karen and Sparks too

Nite Angel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:34:13 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
I see it - I was just concentrating on econ instead of 417 - YES we have them - whew.  FL Grammy have you found out anymore about 4058 while we're at it?

Gosh, how many Karen's are in this room?

4058 - I'm still thinking it is Jenna the shot girl because I can't prove otherwise.  That's how she was listed on Casey's SIM card.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:35:40 AM
Good Night everyone! 

sparks/karen
Goodnight Karen and Sparks too

Nite Angel
I'm still here Grammy, and I think My Time is too..Get to bed so you'll feel well MT!!!
Grammy, you've certainly done a lot of work on those pings!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 02:35:53 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news
WOW OurAngel - Interesting video. 
DESTINY - have a new person for you!  In this tape, George says the PI is Dominick Casey from DNA investigators.  Think he needs a Des - ringy, dingy? 
According to the PI - she is close and he feels he is 2 steps from bring Caylee home. 
Wow - not even done listening to this, but bizarre George is willing to give his house, car and reward to person to bring her home.... he feels all the evidence is just circumstantial.  Okay - off to listen to the rest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:37:40 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:38:09 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?
Yes......and that is only 20 minutes from home so  (close to home)...but anyway....I dont recognize this area let me check it out on my map....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:39:53 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?

That night has always bothered me.  It's way out in the boonies!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:40:45 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?

That night has always bothered me.  It's way out in the boonies!
And at 4:00 AM, very suspicious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:42:01 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?
yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:43:11 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?

That night has always bothered me.  It's way out in the boonies!
And at 4:00 AM, very suspicious.
ok   Im going there tomorrow before I head back home and I will mention it to see what kind of reaction I get and see if any searches are being done there or if they think its relevent .................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:43:37 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:44:23 AM
If you triangulate the pings:

the two pinging at 2:25 and 2:26, and then the one at 4:24... right in the middle is a bridge crossing the river.

But, she was driving Tony's jeep that night.  I swear I've been thinking for a while that she somehow used his jeep to relocate the body.  Perhaps it was in an airtight container.  I wish I knew for a fact that LE checked it with dogs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:44:37 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?

That night has always bothered me.  It's way out in the boonies!
And at 4:00 AM, very suspicious.
ok   Im going there tomorrow before I head back home and I will mention it to see what kind of reaction I get and see if any searches are being done there or if they think its relevent .................

Cool!  now in a mothers voice "You be careful"  I can't wait to hear something on it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:46:02 AM
HH, try to find out if LE has checked the area that the man today was showing us on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:46:53 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:47:19 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

Don't mind me, I'm just trying something and I'm sure it won't work for me....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 02:47:53 AM
If you triangulate the pings:

the two pinging at 2:25 and 2:26, and then the one at 4:24... right in the middle is a bridge crossing the river.

But, she was driving Tony's jeep that night.  I swear I've been thinking for a while that she somehow used his jeep to relocate the body.  Perhaps it was in an airtight container.  I wish I knew for a fact that LE checked it with dogs.
And she later washed Tony's Jeep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:48:04 AM
By 4:27 she is back at Tony's

And if I remember right - she's been in that area a few different times.  But what do you think about 528 and ICP Blvd - she was there only 1 time at 4:00 am.?

Early AM of July 1st?

That night has always bothered me.  It's way out in the boonies!
And at 4:00 AM, very suspicious.
ok   Im going there tomorrow before I head back home and I will mention it to see what kind of reaction I get and see if any searches are being done there or if they think its relevent .................

Cool!  now in a mothers voice "You be careful"  I can't wait to hear something on it.
I will  be careful.......and Im gonna look around a little myself.......but Im not going out to far.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:49:18 AM
HH, try to find out if LE has checked the area that the man today was showing us on TV.
ok   did he mention what the area was ......if not I will find out ...just thought we might already know...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:49:45 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?

I sure don't - I've been wondering if there is a updated phone list somewhere


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: IMissThirdGrade on October 17, 2008, 02:50:20 AM
I think the odd places she went various times were when she was scouting for a place to put Caylee.

I don't think she removed Caylee from the trunk until the 26th or 27th....but she checked out various places.

I'd bet she put her near that airport area....wasn't she in that area on the 26th or so until wee hours of the morning? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:52:00 AM
I think the odd places she went various times were when she was scouting for a place to put Caylee.

I don't think she removed Caylee from the trunk until the 26th or 27th....but she checked out various places.

I'd bet she put her near that airport area....wasn't she in that area on the 26th or so until wee hours of the morning? 
right now my best bet is still  Underhill....I just felt so strange when I was there today......I dont know why I just did...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:53:34 AM
This is what I have:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: IMissThirdGrade on October 17, 2008, 02:53:55 AM
when did she go to underhill?   and did she ever go there twice?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:56:02 AM
HH - If you have time....check out Courtney Landing apartments Just north of the airport.  I'm thinking Lee Vista & Swissco - that's where I'm thinking Reds photos might be from at least the apt looking one.  Also, from Lee vista - go south on TPC Drive and take some pics if you can -she was there quite a bit.  I'm thinking more of RED's pics in that area like the dumpster building.

ONLY IF YOU HAVE TIME & WANT TO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:56:37 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?

I sure don't - I've been wondering if there is a updated phone list somewhere

I just have Casey SIM card information.  That ReversePhoneDetective site that I paid for isn't worth Cr@p.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:56:45 AM
when did she go to underhill?   and did she ever go there twice?
she went there on the same day that she borrowed a shovel from the neighbor  and then again later in the month.......................it has been searched by LE and Tim I think but it was a really wet area its getting drier now and I think they are gonna search there again...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 02:59:26 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?

I sure don't - I've been wondering if there is a updated phone list somewhere

I just have Casey SIM card information.  That ReversePhoneDetective site that I paid for isn't worth Cr@p.
Is that posted somewhere?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 02:59:27 AM
HH, try to find out if LE has checked the area that the man today was showing us on TV.
ok   did he mention what the area was ......if not I will find out ...just thought we might already know...

It's right here:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 02:59:57 AM
HH - If you have time....check out Courtney Landing apartments Just north of the airport.  I'm thinking Lee Vista & Swissco - that's where I'm thinking Reds photos might be from at least the apt looking one.  Also, from Lee vista - go south on TPC Drive and take some pics if you can -she was there quite a bit.  I'm thinking more of RED's pics in that area like the dumpster building.

ONLY IF YOU HAVE TIME & WANT TO. 
Im gonna write this down and TAKE IT WITH ME AND SEE IF i HAVE TIME AND i WILL LET YOU know....I guess I better get some sleep now because I wanna get up early and go out and look................GoodNight......and Thanks for the areas of interest........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: IMissThirdGrade on October 17, 2008, 03:00:08 AM
when did she go to underhill?   and did she ever go there twice?
she went there on the same day that she borrowed a shovel from the neighbor  and then again later in the month.......................it has been searched by LE and Tim I think but it was a really wet area its getting drier now and I think they are gonna search there again...

Its certainy pointing to her moving Caylee twice, huh?

She makes me so sick


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:00:55 AM
HH - If you have time....check out Courtney Landing apartments Just north of the airport.  I'm thinking Lee Vista & Swissco - that's where I'm thinking Reds photos might be from at least the apt looking one.  Also, from Lee vista - go south on TPC Drive and take some pics if you can -she was there quite a bit.  I'm thinking more of RED's pics in that area like the dumpster building.

ONLY IF YOU HAVE TIME & WANT TO. 
Im gonna write this down and TAKE IT WITH ME AND SEE IF i HAVE TIME AND i WILL LET YOU know....I guess I better get some sleep now because I wanna get up early and go out and look................GoodNight......and Thanks for the areas of interest........
Good Night - get some good sleep!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 03:01:02 AM
HH, try to find out if LE has checked the area that the man today was showing us on TV.
ok   did he mention what the area was ......if not I will find out ...just thought we might already know...

It's right here:

Boggy creek road...................do we know if that is close to any other area of interest...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 03:01:52 AM
HH - If you have time....check out Courtney Landing apartments Just north of the airport.  I'm thinking Lee Vista & Swissco - that's where I'm thinking Reds photos might be from at least the apt looking one.  Also, from Lee vista - go south on TPC Drive and take some pics if you can -she was there quite a bit.  I'm thinking more of RED's pics in that area like the dumpster building.

ONLY IF YOU HAVE TIME & WANT TO. 
Im gonna write this down and TAKE IT WITH ME AND SEE IF i HAVE TIME AND i WILL LET YOU know....I guess I better get some sleep now because I wanna get up early and go out and look................GoodNight......and Thanks for the areas of interest........
Goodnight HH, Good Luck and be careful.  Remember if you see anything of interest, don't touch and call LE! Have a safe trip back too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:02:48 AM
Here you go...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 03:03:28 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie


Ditto, OF.  I am in awe of the work she has done.

(KCJackie, give Daisy an extra snuggle for being so cute!).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:03:48 AM
The man said that a well-dressed man was pretending to fish off that bridge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 03:04:46 AM
Id like to see NG sell stuff at the ball game - ICE COLD BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR..
giggle/ you said "ice cold beerbear" ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie

Thank you old fart!  Did you see the one for the 15th & 16th - was it you that was asking about that a few days ago? 


Naw, think it twas me.  And thanks for making it clear!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: higherhopes on October 17, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
ok   another place to go.......boggy creek....I dont even like the name of it.....anyway  yes mame  515...I wont touch anything if I saw something I wuld prolly faint so no worries......and I will talk to yall tomorrow ...gotta go to bed now....goodnight everybody......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:05:50 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?

I sure don't - I've been wondering if there is a updated phone list somewhere

I just have Casey SIM card information.  That ReversePhoneDetective site that I paid for isn't worth Cr@p.
Is that posted somewhere?

Are you a member at WS?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:07:04 AM
ok   another place to go.......boggy creek....I dont even like the name of it.....anyway  yes mame  515...I wont touch anything if I saw something I wuld prolly faint so no worries......and I will talk to yall tomorrow ...gotta go to bed now....goodnight everybody......


Nite HH, be careful and don't go alone!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:11:12 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie


Ditto, OF.  I am in awe of the work she has done.

(KCJackie, give Daisy an extra snuggle for being so cute!).

Thank You Weeble - I will - she is sitting next to me in her bed and sleeps on her back with her legs in the air.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:12:23 AM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.536529~-81.250999&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5216087&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!146&encType=1)

#11
Very interesting, boonies alright . And do you know who the text was from?

I sure don't - I've been wondering if there is a updated phone list somewhere

I just have Casey SIM card information.  That ReversePhoneDetective site that I paid for isn't worth Cr@p.
Is that posted somewhere?

Are you a member at WS?
Code:
yes - never posted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:13:49 AM
KCJackie, please email me

kwmollman@hotmail.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 03:15:56 AM
Good Night everyone,
This has been very interesting. Thanks for all your hard work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:17:38 AM
Good Night everyone,
This has been very interesting. Thanks for all your hard work.

I thought you left before... I even said

Nite Angel

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:23:01 AM
KCJackie, please email me

kwmollman@hotmail.com

I just did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 03:24:24 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie


Ditto, OF.  I am in awe of the work she has done.

(KCJackie, give Daisy an extra snuggle for being so cute!).

Thank You Weeble - I will - she is sitting next to me in her bed and sleeps on her back with her legs in the air.


Mine hug all the covers and leave me smushed, but I wouldn't change it for the world!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 03:25:25 AM
Wow
Just listened to Georges interview  WOW

In two week or by end of the month and caylee isnt home what will he say then

And If they were that Close like he said Wouldnt The FBI step in and Say OK what do you have?

My heart goes out to him but I think he is delusional


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:25:39 AM
BudsGirl
Quote
Were any text messages between Casey & her parents and/or Lee released, or just those between Casey & friends ?
I have NO idea...
KCJackie has done a Fantasic Job at documenting who called / text whom and when and the Maps that show what area ( I think ) that Casey was in at the time.
From the phone records that were released.

Think about it for a second ... LE  is looking at other phone ecords  of what was going on at the same time  and the area they were in
 ::MonkeyDance::  KCJackie


Ditto, OF.  I am in awe of the work she has done.

(KCJackie, give Daisy an extra snuggle for being so cute!).

Thank You Weeble - I will - she is sitting next to me in her bed and sleeps on her back with her legs in the air.


Mine hug all the covers and leave me smushed, but I wouldn't change it for the world!!

ahhhh!  Mine do too - it's the best feeling.  What do you have?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:26:58 AM
KCJackie, please email me

kwmollman@hotmail.com

I just did!

I sent you something good.  Now, you will go even crazier with your mapping.  I know I did!!!

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 03:30:02 AM
At the risk of the big, scary red button, a quick O/T.

Whippets, for over 20 years. 

But I love all the furry folk!

Off to bed for me!  No brain cells left.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 03:30:10 AM
Dana,

I've never addressed a note to you but...
I just finished listening to your show by downloading it to "MediaPlayer".  What an EXCELLENT show.  Your guests tonight were amazing.  I love Leonard Padilla anyway but his taking the initiative in helping Tim Miller and TES just reinforces my faith in him. 

You are an absolute gentleman with your guests and have an excellent speaking voice to go with your manners.  Thank You for an amazing broadcast!!!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:30:33 AM
Wow
Just listened to Georges interview  WOW

In two week or by end of the month and caylee isnt home what will he say then

And If they were that Close like he said Wouldnt The FBI step in and Say OK what do you have?

My heart goes out to him but I think he is delusional


I feel the same way and I can totally understand how much he "wants" Caylee to be okay and coming home.  It's hard to watch him sometimes.  I also worry about these PI's stringing him along.  I've heard some really bad things about this particular PI firm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:31:35 AM
Dana,

I've never addressed a note to you but...
I just finished listening to your show by downloading it to "MediaPlayer".  What an EXCELLENT show.  Your guests tonight were amazing.  I love Leonard Padilla anyway but his taking the initiative in helping Tim Miller and TES just reinforces my faith in him. 

You are an absolute gentleman with your guests and have an excellent speaking voice to go with your manners.  Thank You for an amazing broadcast!!!

PJ :flower:

PJ, what did Leonard do?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:33:37 AM
At the risk of the big, scary red button, a quick O/T.

Whippets, for over 20 years. 

But I love all the furry folk!

Off to bed for me!  No brain cells left.  ::MonkeyEek::
Goodnight Weeble!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 03:34:47 AM
KCJackie, please email me

kwmollman@hotmail.com

I just did!

I sent you something good.  Now, you will go even crazier with your mapping.  I know I did!!!

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::

You've opened up a whole other world ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 03:39:28 AM
I intentionally didn't quote again but....

Nobody is ignored intentionally, it just happens sometimes. 
 

Don't anybody answer this post!!!  j/k   ::MonkeyTongue::
why?? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 03:47:10 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 03:50:50 AM
Wow
Just listened to Georges interview  WOW

In two week or by end of the month and caylee isnt home what will he say then

And If they were that Close like he said Wouldnt The FBI step in and Say OK what do you have?

My heart goes out to him but I think he is delusional
That is bizarre, isn't it Sue.  The only thing I can think of scarier is if they are right and all of us are what we thing they are, delusional! Eeeeeeee gads, too late at night for that thought!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:52:24 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 03:55:18 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.
Grammy - I am brain dead right now, who was he again?  God, she sure had a bunch of men.  More in one month than I dated in a lifetime!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:57:16 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.
Grammy - I am brain dead right now, who was he again?  God, she sure had a bunch of men.  More in one month than I dated in a lifetime!

He's the friend she went to visit at his parent's home on the 17th IIRC and she was driving Tony's jeep.  I think his last name is Stutz? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: dottie on October 17, 2008, 03:58:07 AM
dominic casey private investigater visited casey in jail on july  25. http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/14/parents_to_visit_casey_anthony.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:59:46 AM
I've got to get some sleep.  Going to visit with my daughter and grandson tomorrow!!!  That's him in my Avi on his little Thomas the Train laptop -- can't wait to see him!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 04:01:09 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.
Grammy - I am brain dead right now, who was he again?  God, she sure had a bunch of men.  More in one month than I dated in a lifetime!

He's the friend she went to visit at his parent's home on the 17th IIRC and she was driving Tony's jeep.  I think his last name is Stutz? 
Thanks - wonder if police interviewed him.  I don't recall seeing a statement from him, but she called him before and after her long delay near blanchard park on June 30.  Okay, going to bed for real this time.  Thanks again and btw - love your posts and the work you and KC put into all the calls and maps!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 04:03:45 AM
ok   another place to go.......boggy creek....I dont even like the name of it.....anyway  yes mame  515...I wont touch anything if I saw something I wuld prolly faint so no worries......and I will talk to yall tomorrow ...gotta go to bed now....goodnight everybody......


Good Night HH.  Go with God tomorrow!  Sleep Peacefully tonight!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 04:13:24 AM
Dana,

I've never addressed a note to you but...
I just finished listening to your show by downloading it to "MediaPlayer".  What an EXCELLENT show.  Your guests tonight were amazing.  I love Leonard Padilla anyway but his taking the initiative in helping Tim Miller and TES just reinforces my faith in him. 

You are an absolute gentleman with your guests and have an excellent speaking voice to go with your manners.  Thank You for an amazing broadcast!!!

PJ :flower:

PJ, what did Leonard do?


He was at a convention and took the initiative to get funding and help for TES.  It's a show that is really worth listening to and can be listened to or downloaded at :
  The Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio - Thursday, October 16, 2008 - Robin Sax Discusses the Casey Anthony Indictment, and Author Kathryn Casey Discusses Her New Book, "Descent Into Hell". Also Bail Bondsman Leonard Padilla [49:43m]: Play Now | Play in Popup | Download

I just clicked on the link on the right hand of our screen where the blue boxes are.  Once there you can navigate to the show of choice.  I'm talking about October 16.

Good Night.  Sleep Peacefully!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 04:16:49 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

Couple of things I noticed in this video: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
George again slips and refers to Caylee as his daughter. (he says Casey needs to be home with "my wife, my son, my daughter".  I can see it as being innocent enough, but odd that it's the second time he got it wrong just who little Caylee is.  "that was not my granddaughter in my granddaughter's car" . ::MonkeyCool::

George talks again about how difficult it was to go into the GJ and say what he had to say.  Then the reporter asks if anything he said would hurt Casey's defense.  He said no, definitely not.  Cindy has said the same thing.  So, the what was so damn hard about it?  Seriously?  I now think this was all Nejame's script on  how to get people to sympathize with George. ::MonkeyRoll::

George talks about a new friend who's been with him since almost the beginning of all this.  I'm wondering if this is our friend Chuck? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 04:22:39 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

I'm not sure...was wondering the same thing as I was listening myself...this is the newest of videos out of George on Fox news

wow first time Ive heard there PI s name.

This PI is 2 steps away from bringing Caylee he told George.....but he needs help....WTF??
  2 steps away?  that's the stupidest thing...well one of the stupidest things he's said
how in the heck can you be 2 steps away?  the DNA doesn't lie, but the anthony's do


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MumInOhio on October 17, 2008, 04:37:13 AM
:smt006 Monkeys  Good evening to all.

I need to go back and try speed reading to get caught up   but wanted to drop this off
and hope is gets bumped along at times 
 
Quote
Any Monkeys that happen on this post   that are in the Haughton / Shreveport / Bossier City area of Louisiana or know someone there ...
PLEASE  read...

About a upcoming  TES search  for Clinton Nelson ... His Mother Carolyn is a Monkey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

For Clinton's story  you can read through his thread in OUR Missing Person Section  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1318.0

At this time I'm not sure what may be needed besides spreading the word to that area someway.
To me it is a way we can assist TES... and the mother/family of a missing person.   

TIA




Good Morning...Bringing forward for Oldfart...

The link to Clinton's candle site is in my sig. line...

Back to reading...and lurking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: VinceVixen on October 17, 2008, 04:38:21 AM
Ok... So I may be a little late on this... And someone may have mentioned this... but here is another connection involving a Shamrock Clover to the hat found in the trash... She's wearing a necklace with that symbol... 

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8519/000tv7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/000tv7.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img90/000tv7.jpg/1/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 05:07:58 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?
[size=14pt] chris stutz[/size]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 05:16:39 AM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.
Grammy - I am brain dead right now, who was he again?  God, she sure had a bunch of men.  More in one month than I dated in a lifetime!

He's the friend she went to visit at his parent's home on the 17th IIRC and she was driving Tony's jeep.  I think his last name is Stutz? 
Thanks - wonder if police interviewed him.  I don't recall seeing a statement from him, but she called him before and after her long delay near blanchard park on June 30.  Okay, going to bed for real this time.  Thanks again and btw - love your posts and the work you and KC put into all the calls and maps!!!!!!!!
I had this saved, don't know if it will help.
Ex-Boyfriend Stutz
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564652.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on October 17, 2008, 05:53:23 AM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!
Well it is nice to know nancy cured that one...They have trying to figure out what causes sids for years...My kids i was told to lay ont here stomaches now they say that is bad..So now we lay them on their backs were if they throw up they can choke and half these kids head are deformed from laying on their back..




I am a smoker ALL 3 of my kids are ALIVE and well. I never spoked in their faces or anything, well you get the general idea. Anyways, As for doctors saying "Lay the baby on his/her back"? I think is CRAZY! I agree with you Mrs. I was so scared about the choking. I asked the doctor oneday, she said "The baby will know enough to turn her head"  ::MonkeyShocked:: Anyways, my baby wouldn't sleep. I lived at my moms at the time. My mom said to me "Screw this, put her on her on her stomache" We did just that and she slept!  ::MonkeyDance:: As for the head being deformed? My brother having his first kid and all, he listened to EVERYTHING the doctors said and put my nephew on his back etc. Well my nephew needed to wear a special helmet for awhile because his head was allll flat on one side. It really makes you wonder where these doctors got their degree from, a cracker jack box? JMO and our experience           


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 07:18:42 AM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2iqmxk6.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 07:30:40 AM
Good Morning all here


If I have to hear Baez say one more time that yesterday was a slow news day I think I will be sick.  To me he is as irritating to listen to as Cindy.  It takes him 10 minutes to say something he could say in 30 seconds!!!    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on October 17, 2008, 07:35:56 AM
Caylee is on the cover of this weeks People.

NG just said she wouldnt let someone come to her xmas party because they smelled like smoke and Nicotine causes SIDS.  WOW!
Well it is nice to know nancy cured that one...They have trying to figure out what causes sids for years...My kids i was told to lay ont here stomaches now they say that is bad..So now we lay them on their backs were if they throw up they can choke and half these kids head are deformed from laying on their back..




I am a smoker ALL 3 of my kids are ALIVE and well. I never spoked in their faces or anything, well you get the general idea. Anyways, As for doctors saying "Lay the baby on his/her back"? I think is CRAZY! I agree with you Mrs. I was so scared about the choking. I asked the doctor oneday, she said "The baby will know enough to turn her head"  ::MonkeyShocked:: Anyways, my baby wouldn't sleep. I lived at my moms at the time. My mom said to me "Screw this, put her on her on her stomache" We did just that and she slept!  ::MonkeyDance:: As for the head being deformed? My brother having his first kid and all, he listened to EVERYTHING the doctors said and put my nephew on his back etc. Well my nephew needed to wear a special helmet for awhile because his head was allll flat on one side. It really makes you wonder where these doctors got their degree from, a cracker jack box? JMO and our experience           

OOPS I meant smoked, NOT ENOUGH coffee yet,  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MumInOhio on October 17, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
On reading back, I see a couple of posts regarding little Cole Puffinburger kidnapped from Las Vegas...Here is a link to Cole's thread for any Monkeys that are interested...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3723.new#top



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 07:57:48 AM
Good morning to anyone who is out there this early.

While I ate my oatmeal breakfast cookie, I have been reading a little at the Supernatural Response Team site with which Rev. Grund is affiliated. The beliefs on the site are not necessarily something I agree with, but I don't think they're as "out there" as the site's name made them seem.

For those who haven't read there, the site basically says that people who experience "alien" contact are not dealing with creatures from outerspace, they're dealing with demons. The whole concept really seems quite consistent with evangelical Christianity. I just wanted to mention that, because at first I thought the site dealt with something entirely different, and I didn't know if others were under that impression as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 08:07:48 AM
Good morning to anyone who is out there this early.

While I ate my oatmeal breakfast cookie, I have been reading a little at the Supernatural Response Team site with which Rev. Grund is affiliated. The beliefs on the site are not necessarily something I agree with, but I don't think they're as "out there" as the site's name made them seem.

For those who haven't read there, the site basically says that people who experience "alien" contact are not dealing with creatures from outerspace, they're dealing with demons. The whole concept really seems quite consistent with evangelical Christianity. I just wanted to mention that, because at first I thought the site dealt with something entirely different, and I didn't know if others were under that impression as well.

Good morning BT! Thanks for the info...will have to check it out....
You are a much better monkey than I am....I am eating a pop tart! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 08:09:14 AM
SEEME I "adjusted" it. Hope you don't mind!

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/caseypeople2.jpg)

and some Anthony Kool -Aid for anyone who wants it.

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/hillbilly.gif)

Good Morning ALL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 08:11:22 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 08:14:31 AM
Good morning to anyone who is out there this early.

While I ate my oatmeal breakfast cookie, I have been reading a little at the Supernatural Response Team site with which Rev. Grund is affiliated. The beliefs on the site are not necessarily something I agree with, but I don't think they're as "out there" as the site's name made them seem.

For those who haven't read there, the site basically says that people who experience "alien" contact are not dealing with creatures from outerspace, they're dealing with demons. The whole concept really seems quite consistent with evangelical Christianity. I just wanted to mention that, because at first I thought the site dealt with something entirely different, and I didn't know if others were under that impression as well.

Good morning BT! Thanks for the info...will have to check it out....
You are a much better monkey than I am....I am eating a pop tart! LOL

Hi there!

I LOVE Poptarts! Yummy!! However, the doctor wants me to lower my cholesterol. Pfffttt!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 08:17:06 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?

It would make sense to me that Lee would have helped Casey in her coverup. I'm not going to speculate about the whole incest theory, because I don't have a clue what goes on behind the closed doors of the Anthony family. However, I know there is usually a close bond between siblings, especially when there are only two of them, and I can see him helping her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 08:19:43 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MumInOhio on October 17, 2008, 08:23:57 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?

Same thought crossed my mind...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: sharon on October 17, 2008, 08:24:34 AM
Also Klaas...I was wondering if you had heard anything about Zaneida sueing the Apartment Complex !   I didnt know that until today,...

No but I wouldn't be surprised it she did.  The apartment complex somehow allowed her information to get out otherwise Casey wouldn't have had it.

This is where I need help with logic  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If KC specifically looked for someone who would provide a cover for the use of 'Zanny' as the nanny's name (which is the premise that I curretnly believe);

And KC did computer searches for Zanny, zani, zenaida, etc

And a 'Zenaida G' just happens to be at the exact location that KC says she left sweet Caylee with the nanny --

do you think that someone (Annie, Dante..) called her when Zaneida signed in and said 'hey - we found a Zenaida for you' ?

or that KC was following this Zenaida and she struck gold when zanny went apartment hunting?

or that KC was telling the truth that she actually dropped Caylee off at the staircase for Z to babysit?

or something else? HOW DID THIS 'COINCIDENCE" occur??

morning all. thanks for not adding too many pages overnight  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I only have 10 more minutes to catch up. Weather is cooler (only upper 70's at the moment) and dryer in this part of the state (miami) and the nice conditions are supposed to last for a few days. hopefully the orlando area will experience this as well. great conditions for finding Caylee.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 08:25:48 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


Hi cubbee, you mean the Boggs Creek images? I think I'm a member there, but don't remember my user name. I don't want to copy their pictures. But if someone is a member they can log on and click the quote button and grab the [img] codes and paste them here. It's easier then copying all the images and loading them to a photobucket and then re-pasting them here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 08:30:26 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


Hi cubbee, you mean the Boggs Creek images? I think I'm a member there, but don't remember my user name. I don't want to copy their pictures. But if someone is a member they can log on and click the quote button and grab the [img] codes and paste them here. It's easier then copying all the images and loading them to a photobucket and then re-pasting them here.

Thanks rob...after I posted that I did the slap myself in the head routine, cause by 10 a.m. they will be everywhere anyway....LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bananajam on October 17, 2008, 08:34:42 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


some of those google earth image are 3 and 4 years old...i dont  know about these, or where they came from.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 08:34:52 AM
Monkeys and morning coffee, a lovely combo.

I've been gone since yesterday afternoon for a much needed break. So, what did I miss?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: le singe bete on October 17, 2008, 08:36:11 AM
Good morning monkeys!  I am trying to put myself in Casey's shoes (yyyeeeckkk).  I think if had been her I would have scouted for a place to hide little Caylee's body and at the same time, once I found a place, gone ahead and dug a hole for her body without having her body in the car or anywhere near me. 

Assuming she died on the 16th, I would have done the scouting and digging on the 17th (when her phone was silent for a period).  And then on the 18th, moved her body to the new location that was ready and waiting for her.  This would make for a quick process while you were in possession of the actual body, lessening your chances (to a degree) of being caught.  Except, dad gum, it was a bit harder than she thought it would be and there was a leak in the trunk.

And then she got busy with Tony, and partying.  Cause, you know y'all, it was the beginning of Casey's new life.  But, she couldn't figure out why the car stunk.  She though it'd be okay once she got rid of the body.  The smell would just go away not realizing the extent of the spill, or leak.  Finally, she was left with no choice but to abandon it at Amscot. 

Sorry if this has been talked about already.  Who can keep up with you monkeys?  I'd have to read like a gazillion pages.  And I'm trying......... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 08:37:23 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


some of those google earth image are 3 and 4 years old...i dont  know about these, or where they came from.

so the person who came forward said he/she saw her come out of the woods with a shovel on Boggy Creek Road? I'm going to read back but would a nice monkey post a link to a video or news story about this witness? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 08:37:24 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


Hi cubbee, you mean the Boggs Creek images? I think I'm a member there, but don't remember my user name. I don't want to copy their pictures. But if someone is a member they can log on and click the quote button and grab the [img] codes and paste them here. It's easier then copying all the images and loading them to a photobucket and then re-pasting them here.


Morning Monkeys :)

Rob, I am an active member on that site. What image would you like to see?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 08:38:14 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


some of those google earth image are 3 and 4 years old...i dont  know about these, or where they came from.

so the person who came forward said he/she saw her come out of the woods with a shovel on Boggy Creek Road? I'm going to read back but would a nice monkey post a link to a video or news story about this witness? TIA


I posted it last night as did others....not sure how far back it was...lemme see...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 08:41:17 AM
If you triangulate the pings:

the two pinging at 2:25 and 2:26, and then the one at 4:24... right in the middle is a bridge crossing the river.

But, she was driving Tony's jeep that night.  I swear I've been thinking for a while that she somehow used his jeep to relocate the body.  Perhaps it was in an airtight container.  I wish I knew for a fact that LE checked it with dogs.
Then she washed his Jeep


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 08:42:46 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US

WOW!  How can someone be so blind?????

Couple of things I noticed in this video: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
George again slips and refers to Caylee as his daughter. (he says Casey needs to be home with "my wife, my son, my daughter".  I can see it as being innocent enough, but odd that it's the second time he got it wrong just who little Caylee is.  "that was not my granddaughter in my granddaughter's car" . ::MonkeyCool::

George talks again about how difficult it was to go into the GJ and say what he had to say.  Then the reporter asks if anything he said would hurt Casey's defense.  He said no, definitely not.  Cindy has said the same thing.  So, the what was so damn hard about it?  Seriously?  I now think this was all Nejame's script on  how to get people to sympathize with George. ::MonkeyRoll::

George talks about a new friend who's been with him since almost the beginning of all this.  I'm wondering if this is our friend Chuck? ::MonkeyWink::
Da Plane! Da Plane! George is by the airport...Do i think he is there to find the body.. Yes i do!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 08:43:33 AM
Pic taken from Channel 9 report of witness seeing ?KC...

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearingTreeNoLeavesFro.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 08:43:49 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


some of those google earth image are 3 and 4 years old...i dont  know about these, or where they came from.

so the person who came forward said he/she saw her come out of the woods with a shovel on Boggy Creek Road? I'm going to read back but would a nice monkey post a link to a video or news story about this witness? TIA


Here ya go....

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 08:45:44 AM
Maps of location where witness claims to have seen KC....

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearingLarger.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearingShowingBridge.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearing3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 08:46:42 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 08:47:24 AM
Rob....I tried to bring this over from Websleuths, but as you know I am technologically challenged....could you or some other kind monkey help me out....TYIA


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73309&page=20


some of those google earth image are 3 and 4 years old...i dont  know about these, or where they came from.

so the person who came forward said he/she saw her come out of the woods with a shovel on Boggy Creek Road? I'm going to read back but would a nice monkey post a link to a video or news story about this witness? TIA


Here ya go....

http://www.wftv.com/video/17736185/index.html

Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 08:57:46 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you

My daughter's father is a sociopath IMO. I was 16 and insecure. So, it took me a few years to kick him to the curb. He gave the appearance of being vain, when in reality he was insecure. He was a liar -- not a good one. He was a manipulator. He was a thief. He stole from me and his family and took advantage of anyone who cared for him.

He was extremely CHARMING and SOCIABLE. He CRIED on cue as a way to convince me he had feelings. He used MY daughter as a pawn in his games. (She is mine b/c I've raised her for 15 years by myself.) His only feeling is a deep desire to GET WHAT HE WANTS. He doesn't care who he hurts along the way. He doesn't care if he breaks the law in the process. If a person sees him for who he is and calls him on it (like I did), he is literally SCARED of that person. He only preys on those he perceives as weaker than him.

This is a man who during the OJ Simpson murder trial told me the he should "do that" to me. My reaction was to get a knife from the kitchen and hold it to his face and tell him I'd kill him before I ever let him kill me. Let's just say. He shut his mouth at that point.  And now the monkeys might think I'm the crazy one. But I'll tell you, I'll fight to the deah for my life or the life of my daughter or any other family member. That's just the kind of person I am.

Sorry for the rant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
Morning everyone!  Notice how the Anthonys are pouring it on thick with the Caylee is alive again after the slip by Black.  Im sure Baez has them doing this and now theres suddenly all this new stuff from a PI.  And this PI, if hes really a PI and investigating, what a sicko to be taking money from a family thats grandchild has been murdered.  When I think it cant get any more bizare George makes these statements.  He must be on some of the same stuff Cindy is on and they are all halucinating.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:01:30 AM
Morning everyone!  Notice how the Anthonys are pouring it on thick with the Caylee is alive again after the slip by Black.  Im sure Baez has them doing this and now theres suddenly all this new stuff from a PI.  And this PI, if hes really a PI and investigating, what a sicko to be taking money from a family thats grandchild has been murdered.  When I think it cant get any more bizare George makes these statements.  He must be on some of the same stuff Cindy is on and they are all halucinating.

I swear to you -- if they could find a child who looked enough like Caylee and they could somehow get away with it -- they'd take that child and pretend she was Caylee for the rest of her life. That is a sad, sad thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 09:02:04 AM

All I can see are SIX GIANT EYEBROWS!!!

Perhaps they sold their tweezers on Ebay. :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mary on October 17, 2008, 09:02:13 AM
yes but he needs a fishing rod


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:03:56 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you

Abbey, my brother's ex is a sociopath. And yes, we all knew something was very different about her from the get go. I studied personality disorders for years trying to figure it out what it was. I knew before this case that she was a sociopath but this one reinforced and confirmed everything for me. It is as if I am watching her in every step Casey makes. Both of them are textbook.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 09:05:35 AM
Maps of location where witness claims to have seen KC....

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearingLarger.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearingShowingBridge.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekClearing3.jpg)


The one I was talking about had the white car parked on the side of the road...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:07:50 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you

My daughter's father is a sociopath IMO. I was 16 and insecure. So, it took me a few years to kick him to the curb. He gave the appearance of being vain, when in reality he was insecure. He was a liar -- not a good one. He was a manipulator. He was a thief. He stole from me and his family and took advantage of anyone who cared for him.

He was extremely CHARMING and SOCIABLE. He CRIED on cue as a way to convince me he had feelings. He used MY daughter as a pawn in his games. (She is mine b/c I've raised her for 15 years by myself.) His only feeling is a deep desire to GET WHAT HE WANTS. He doesn't care who he hurts along the way. He doesn't care if he breaks the law in the process. If a person sees him for who he is and calls him on it (like I did), he is literally SCARED of that person. He only preys on those he perceives as weaker than him.

This is a man who during the OJ Simpson murder trial told me the he should "do that" to me. My reaction was to get a knife from the kitchen and hold it to his face and tell him I'd kill him before I ever let him kill me. Let's just say. He shut his mouth at that point.  And now the monkeys might think I'm the crazy one. But I'll tell you, I'll fight to the deah for my life or the life of my daughter or any other family member. That's just the kind of person I am.

Sorry for the rant.

THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:08:24 AM
The one I was talking about had the white car parked on the side of the road...
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(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekWhiteCar.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:09:42 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you

Abbey, my brother's ex is a sociopath. And yes, we all knew something was very different about her from the get go. I studied personality disorders for years trying to figure it out what it was. I knew before this case that she was a sociopath but this one reinforced and confirmed everything for me. It is as if I am watching her in every step Casey makes. Both of them are textbook.

I have a thought ... is Cindy a sociopath? I'm just thinking that one type of abuse is psychological abuse. Although spouses are subjected to this abuse, children are most susceptible. Did Cindy psychologically abuse Casey?

Now, let me give you examples -- telling someone she is fat, ugly and stupid on a regular basis (or telling someone she is a BAD mother). Isolating someone from their family and friends (from their finance Jesse Grund). And so on.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 09:10:44 AM
The one I was talking about had the white car parked on the side of the road...

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekWhiteCar.jpg)
[/quote]


wierd,huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
Good morning everyone;

 I am have reading back about the signs that a person is a sociopath.  Several people here posted that they have known a sociopath.  If any of you  here can tell me if you had a sense initially there was something amiss about the person you suspect is one and if you ever tried to figure what was wrong with them til you realized they were a sociopath.

Maybe i need to repost this later when more people are here.

Thank you

My daughter's father is a sociopath IMO. I was 16 and insecure. So, it took me a few years to kick him to the curb. He gave the appearance of being vain, when in reality he was insecure. He was a liar -- not a good one. He was a manipulator. He was a thief. He stole from me and his family and took advantage of anyone who cared for him.

He was extremely CHARMING and SOCIABLE. He CRIED on cue as a way to convince me he had feelings. He used MY daughter as a pawn in his games. (She is mine b/c I've raised her for 15 years by myself.) His only feeling is a deep desire to GET WHAT HE WANTS. He doesn't care who he hurts along the way. He doesn't care if he breaks the law in the process. If a person sees him for who he is and calls him on it (like I did), he is literally SCARED of that person. He only preys on those he perceives as weaker than him.

This is a man who during the OJ Simpson murder trial told me the he should "do that" to me. My reaction was to get a knife from the kitchen and hold it to his face and tell him I'd kill him before I ever let him kill me. Let's just say. He shut his mouth at that point.  And now the monkeys might think I'm the crazy one. But I'll tell you, I'll fight to the deah for my life or the life of my daughter or any other family member. That's just the kind of person I am.

Sorry for the rant.

You're not crazy & I'm sorry you went through what you did! I have always wondered why I am the only person in my family that my brother's ex never had a run in with. And when I say run in, that's putting it mildly. My mother, my sister, my daughter, my niece, of course my brother but usually all women are the ones she would target. But never me? I know now it was & is because I know what she is & she cannot manipulate me & she knows it. She has my niece & nephew & I am terrified for them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Monken and GoodnMad:  I have been up all night and so upset or relieved i figured out what is wrong with him.
Who did you talk to???  How did you deal with it???  or did you just run from these ppeople??

Thank you soo much for sharing.  I really appreciate it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:13:19 AM
The one I was talking about had the white car parked on the side of the road...

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekWhiteCar.jpg)


wierd,huh?
[/quote]

Is this picture for real? Do you know when it was taken? OMG?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:18:38 AM
THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone

Abbey - I'm not sure who this person is in your life but I am warning you -- distance yourself from him. Do not show fear and do call him out every time he comes at you with bullsh**. The only way I got this "man" out of my life (well, mostly out) is to emotionally distance myself from him and to take it a step further my daughter and I moved an hour away. Doesn't sound like much, but it did the trick. Now, I'm not saying every sociopath is a murderer, obviously not. but they damn sure have much more potential than say you or I.

There is no sense of BOUNDARIES with these people. Think of Casey crossing boundaries most of us would not DARE cross:

-Stealing from her parents, grandparents and friends
-Telling her dad "Here's your f'in gas cans"
-And then there are the boundaries she so obviously crossed with Caylee, leading ultimately to the child's death and the child's remains being out there undiscovered for 4 months.

I will also tell you that this man was a victim of physical, emotional and sexual abuse as a child and teen. He also witnesed his father abusing his mother. No excuses. Just a fact.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 09:20:02 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:20:08 AM
The one I was talking about had the white car parked on the side of the road...

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a223/mlmjra/00BoggyCreekWhiteCar.jpg)


wierd,huh?

Is this picture for real? Do you know when it was taken? OMG?
[/quote]

It is real but not dated. It is a google aerial map.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 09:21:20 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PookyBear on October 17, 2008, 09:21:55 AM
THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone

Abbey - I'm not sure who this person is in your life but I am warning you -- distance yourself from him. Do not show fear and do call him out every time he comes at you with bullsh**. The only way I got this "man" out of my life (well, mostly out) is to emotionally distance myself from him and to take it a step further my daughter and I moved an hour away. Doesn't sound like much, but it did the trick. Now, I'm not saying every sociopath is a murderer, obviously not. but they damn sure have much more potential than say you or I.

There is no sense of BOUNDARIES with these people. Think of Casey crossing boundaries most of us would not DARE cross:

-Stealing from her parents, grandparents and friends
-Telling her dad "Here's your f'in gas cans"
-And then there are the boundaries she so obviously crossed with Caylee, leading ultimately to the child's death and the child's remains being out there undiscovered for 4 months.

I will also tell you that this man was a victim of physical, emotional and sexual abuse as a child and teen. He also witnesed his father abusing his mother. No excuses. Just a fact.
 
Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 09:22:27 AM
Hey guys...ever since I got out of the ER, I have been really sick.....all of my electrolytes are outta whack, and I feel like Casey looks..like chit..... ::MonkeyTongue::I have been sleeping mostly...and been at the doc's office for more blood work.....

A wee bit better today though...

Soooooo, can you guys update me on important stuff? Pretty please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:23:28 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

I will not go into detail because I just hate thinking about it but....I was involved with a man several years ago who was a narcissist and a pathological liar. When I finally found out almost everything he told me was a lie, I confronted him. It was the first time I saw him furious and he went into a rage. He became violent and it turned into a domestic violence incident. He was arrested and pleaded to a lesser charge. He is currently on probation and I have a permanent restraining order against him. Earlier this year, he was arrested for similar charges against another woman. There is no rehab for these types of people and unfortunately most do not seek help because they think the rest of us is wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:24:13 AM
Monken and GoodnMad:  I have been up all night and so upset or relieved i figured out what is wrong with him.
Who did you talk to???  How did you deal with it???  or did you just run from these ppeople??

Thank you soo much for sharing.  I really appreciate it

Abbey, my brother still refuses to believe that she is a sociopath. He says she is bi-polar. I cannot even begin to describe the differences. He will not realize what has happened & is happening in front of his eyes. He is embarrassed & ashamed of how he has treated his family in the past because of this woman. She has his 2 children with her & has recently taken them out of state. he is afraid to even think about what she could do to them. They are terrified of her! I am friends with a psychologist & am hoping some time soon I can get my brother, myself & her together to make him understand what she is. It is so hard. Also, sociopaths are RARELY diagnosed, they are IDENTIFYED by the behavior. A sociopath believes everyone else around them is crazy, but not themselves. There is so so much more over the years. Really unbelievable!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 09:25:06 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 
Spooky, indeed --but, like mentioned -- Google satellite maps are generally 3-4 years old. Also, unless Orlando was in a drought at the time, the grass looks a little more "Fallish" to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:25:14 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 

It is very hard to pan in on the car but some think it is a white car with a black bra!

Those pics are taken over a period of time. Unfortunately, they are not dated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:26:02 AM
THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone

Abbey - I'm not sure who this person is in your life but I am warning you -- distance yourself from him. Do not show fear and do call him out every time he comes at you with bullsh**. The only way I got this "man" out of my life (well, mostly out) is to emotionally distance myself from him and to take it a step further my daughter and I moved an hour away. Doesn't sound like much, but it did the trick. Now, I'm not saying every sociopath is a murderer, obviously not. but they damn sure have much more potential than say you or I.

There is no sense of BOUNDARIES with these people. Think of Casey crossing boundaries most of us would not DARE cross:

-Stealing from her parents, grandparents and friends
-Telling her dad "Here's your f'in gas cans"
-And then there are the boundaries she so obviously crossed with Caylee, leading ultimately to the child's death and the child's remains being out there undiscovered for 4 months.

I will also tell you that this man was a victim of physical, emotional and sexual abuse as a child and teen. He also witnesed his father abusing his mother. No excuses. Just a fact.
 

I have distanced myself because my husband and i really started thinking there was something so off balance and it wasn't until last night that we both came to the conclusion that he was possibly a sociopath.  He has nearly all the marks except he is not violent


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 09:26:30 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 
Spooky, indeed --but, like mentioned -- Google satellite maps are generally 3-4 years old. Also, unless Orlando was in a drought at the time, the grass looks a little more "Fallish" to me.


I agree....but it is just hinky that the car would be in that picture ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:27:52 AM
Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 

I am not sure what went on in the Anthony family. I can tell you that such a person can fool many, many people. They can be as Casey was described by Jesse - chameleons.

At the very least, I'd say it's obvious there is incredible dysfunction in that family, lack of meaningful discipline, and an alarming lack of boundaries. Casey was never made to face consequences for her actions. So she did not even consider the consequences of whatever she did to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 17, 2008, 09:28:55 AM

All I can see are SIX GIANT EYEBROWS!!!

Perhaps they sold their tweezers on Ebay. :roll:

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   

I think that's the funniest thing I've read yet! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
The main Google office is in Silicon Valley, CA  and the phone # 1-650-253-0000, but not open yet.  There is an office in Atlanta, GA that would be open now phone #1-404-487-9000.  I am not good at these types of calls, but if someone out there is, maybe we can ask how we would go about finding a date for that picture.  The address for the pic is approx. 12108 Boggy Creek Rd.  Orlando, fl  32824  and would be a satellite view.   TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 09:29:54 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

I will not go into detail because I just hate thinking about it but....I was involved with a man several years ago who was a narcissist and a pathological liar. When I finally found out almost everything he told me was a lie, I confronted him. It was the first time I saw him furious and he went into a rage. He became violent and it turned into a domestic violence incident. He was arrested and pleaded to a lesser charge. He is currently on probation and I have a permanent restraining order against him. Earlier this year, he was arrested for similar charges against another woman. There is no rehab for these types of people and unfortunately most do not seek help because they think the rest of us is wrong.

Sorry about the "butthead", but watch him and be wary.

I found this as well

According to Kohut, rages are a result of the shame at being faced with failure. Narcissistic rage is the uncontrollable and unexpected anger that occurs due to a narcissistic injury. Narcissistic injury is a threat to a narcissist’s self-esteem or worth. Rage comes in many forms, but all pertain to the same important thing, revenge.

Maybe it's due to the Cindy vs Casey fight.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 09:30:20 AM
Pooky Bear
"Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand." 


When I googled sociopath it stated that the jury is still our whether this is born or made. One of the characteristics of a sociopath is they can change at the drop of a hat to paraphrase. Jesse stated his family was religious, then so was Casey, another did drugs, so did Casey. She did what ever it was to blend in with whomever she was with. She wanted acceptance above all else, at the expense of all else and would stop at nothing to get what she wanted. My opinion is that she has always been this way and it was fostered by family always cleaning up her messes. They learn at a very young age that there are no consequences for what they do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:30:21 AM
Monken and GoodnMad:  I have been up all night and so upset or relieved i figured out what is wrong with him.
Who did you talk to???  How did you deal with it???  or did you just run from these ppeople??

Thank you soo much for sharing.  I really appreciate it

Abbey, my brother still refuses to believe that she is a sociopath. He says she is bi-polar. I cannot even begin to describe the differences. He will not realize what has happened & is happening in front of his eyes. He is embarrassed & ashamed of how he has treated his family in the past because of this woman. She has his 2 children with her & has recently taken them out of state. he is afraid to even think about what she could do to them. They are terrified of her! I am friends with a psychologist & am hoping some time soon I can get my brother, myself & her together to make him understand what she is. It is so hard. Also, sociopaths are RARELY diagnosed, they are IDENTIFYED by the behavior. A sociopath believes everyone else around them is crazy, but not themselves. There is so so much more over the years. Really unbelievable!!

YES !!!  that is him.  In almost every conversation he accuses others of having mental problems, especially anyone who is successful. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 09:30:27 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 

It is very hard to pan in on the car but some think it is a white car with a black bra!

Those pics are taken over a period of time. Unfortunately, they are not dated.

I just read on WS...that picture was taken 10/2006   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 

It is very hard to pan in on the car but some think it is a white car with a black bra!

Those pics are taken over a period of time. Unfortunately, they are not dated.

I just read on WS...that picture was taken 10/2006   

RATS!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 09:32:16 AM
THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone

Abbey - I'm not sure who this person is in your life but I am warning you -- distance yourself from him. Do not show fear and do call him out every time he comes at you with bullsh**. The only way I got this "man" out of my life (well, mostly out) is to emotionally distance myself from him and to take it a step further my daughter and I moved an hour away. Doesn't sound like much, but it did the trick. Now, I'm not saying every sociopath is a murderer, obviously not. but they damn sure have much more potential than say you or I.

There is no sense of BOUNDARIES with these people. Think of Casey crossing boundaries most of us would not DARE cross:

-Stealing from her parents, grandparents and friends
-Telling her dad "Here's your f'in gas cans"
-And then there are the boundaries she so obviously crossed with Caylee, leading ultimately to the child's death and the child's remains being out there undiscovered for 4 months.

I will also tell you that this man was a victim of physical, emotional and sexual abuse as a child and teen. He also witnesed his father abusing his mother. No excuses. Just a fact.
 

I have distanced myself because my husband and i really started thinking there was something so off balance and it wasn't until last night that we both came to the conclusion that he was possibly a sociopath.  He has nearly all the marks except he is not violent

abbey....you are not crazy.... I lived this with my ex....he still tries to blame everything that goes wrong in his life on me....I only wish I had the power to bewitch people and have such influence over the things that happen in life....distance yourself and do not let this person make you think it is your fault....Once I distanced myself I started feeling a whole lot better .....The last 6 months of my life have been a struggle for me and my son, but at least I can finally breath again!!!!!

Have to run off to work now....catch y'all monkeys later....
I still think the picture of the car in the median is "hinky" ....meaning it gives me the creeps, regardless of when it was taken... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 09:33:43 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 

It is very hard to pan in on the car but some think it is a white car with a black bra!

Those pics are taken over a period of time. Unfortunately, they are not dated.

I just read on WS...that picture was taken 10/2006   

RATS!!!!!!

yeah right....I agree  RATS!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:33:49 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

I will not go into detail because I just hate thinking about it but....I was involved with a man several years ago who was a narcissist and a pathological liar. When I finally found out almost everything he told me was a lie, I confronted him. It was the first time I saw him furious and he went into a rage. He became violent and it turned into a domestic violence incident. He was arrested and pleaded to a lesser charge. He is currently on probation and I have a permanent restraining order against him. Earlier this year, he was arrested for similar charges against another woman. There is no rehab for these types of people and unfortunately most do not seek help because they think the rest of us is wrong.

Sorry about the "butthead", but watch him and be wary.

I found this as well

According to Kohut, rages are a result of the shame at being faced with failure. Narcissistic rage is the uncontrollable and unexpected anger that occurs due to a narcissistic injury. Narcissistic injury is a threat to a narcissist’s self-esteem or worth. Rage comes in many forms, but all pertain to the same important thing, revenge.

Maybe it's due to the Cindy vs Casey fight.



His middle name is revenge. Over the course of a year, while we were waiting for his case to complete, he threatened me many times. How did he do it and not break the restraining order? He told someone else who told me. Unfortunately, that person was so afraid of him she would not give the police a statement. He caught wind of the possibility and went to her house and slashed her tires.

Fortunately, I have not heard from him in over a year but the memories of that time are very painful and something I will never forget.

Sorry for going on and on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:34:36 AM
THANK YOU SOO MUCH !!  Really. thank you thank you.   I think i just figured out that someone i know and did care about is.  I could never figure out why or how this person could think the way he does because it is the MOST abnormal i have ever encountered, but i always thought it was personality quirps.  It is frightening !!!!
Everything you describe in your post is what he does.  Even though he is highly educated, breaking the law (white collar crimes) is sport to him and he accuses everyone around him of being insecure and on and on.  He especially despises people more successful than him which is everyone, except that he believes he very successful.  He guilts people around him to feel sorry for him at times or do things for him.  I have never met someone who so easily asks people to do things for him.
Am i the one that is crazy ??????
Damn.....i really need to to air this out with someone

Abbey - I'm not sure who this person is in your life but I am warning you -- distance yourself from him. Do not show fear and do call him out every time he comes at you with bullsh**. The only way I got this "man" out of my life (well, mostly out) is to emotionally distance myself from him and to take it a step further my daughter and I moved an hour away. Doesn't sound like much, but it did the trick. Now, I'm not saying every sociopath is a murderer, obviously not. but they damn sure have much more potential than say you or I.

There is no sense of BOUNDARIES with these people. Think of Casey crossing boundaries most of us would not DARE cross:

-Stealing from her parents, grandparents and friends
-Telling her dad "Here's your f'in gas cans"
-And then there are the boundaries she so obviously crossed with Caylee, leading ultimately to the child's death and the child's remains being out there undiscovered for 4 months.

I will also tell you that this man was a victim of physical, emotional and sexual abuse as a child and teen. He also witnesed his father abusing his mother. No excuses. Just a fact.
 

I have distanced myself because my husband and i really started thinking there was something so off balance and it wasn't until last night that we both came to the conclusion that he was possibly a sociopath.  He has nearly all the marks except he is not violent

The one I know is!  She becomes enraged!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:34:52 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 

It is very hard to pan in on the car but some think it is a white car with a black bra!

Those pics are taken over a period of time. Unfortunately, they are not dated.

I just read on WS...that picture was taken 10/2006   

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 09:35:34 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/c1-2.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/whitecar.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
I found a picture of Caylee that looks like she is mad at someone.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Cayleemad.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 09:39:01 AM
The main Google office is in Silicon Valley, CA  and the phone # 1-650-253-0000, but not open yet.  There is an office in Atlanta, GA that would be open now phone #1-404-487-9000.  I am not good at these types of calls, but if someone out there is, maybe we can ask how we would go about finding a date for that picture.  The address for the pic is approx. 12108 Boggy Creek Rd.  Orlando, fl  32824  and would be a satellite view.   TIA

I am betting Des could have a date in 10 minutes. LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on October 17, 2008, 09:40:08 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?



Me too, Thanx for the morning laugh  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 09:40:25 AM
I found a picture of Caylee that looks like she is mad at someone.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Cayleemad.jpg)

That pic made me smile

I love children



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 17, 2008, 09:40:35 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 




Flossy.... I have found someone to treat me like a queen....myself!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 09:42:32 AM
I found a picture of Caylee that looks like she is mad at someone.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Cayleemad.jpg)

That pic made me smile

I love children




It made me smile too. It looks like a "what you talking about willis?" kinda look. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
The one thing that has not been leaked is any news about that shovel they recovered as evidence.  Curious what they found on it.  Dirt?  Body fluids?  Blood?  Hair?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
I think of Casey and other narcissists, sociopaths living in a carefully constructed self-contained little world. If you make a crack in their world by challenging them with reality, they will do anything to repair the crack and get back to living in their own little world. Cindy cracked Casey's world June 15th. You better believe that if cindy went to visit her parents and learnd of Casey's theft that day, all hell broke loose when she got home. (We've all seen Cindy's temperment. It is not a steady and easy-going one.) She and Casey fought that evening. She told Casey she'd had enough of her lies and stealing and bullsh**. She may have even physically fought with Casey. This cracked the facade Casey worked so hard on. In order to restore her little world and get revenge on her mom, Casey killed Caylee. The partying, the tattoo, the shopping, that was all her living in her own little world and returning to her normal, never mind Caylee. And on July 15th, crack. Again, Cindy came in and disturbed Casey's facade.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 17, 2008, 09:44:39 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 




Flossy.... I have found someone to treat me like a queen....myself!!!!!

PERFECT!!!  That's truly all you need. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:45:17 AM
Monken and GoodnMad:  I have been up all night and so upset or relieved i figured out what is wrong with him.
Who did you talk to???  How did you deal with it???  or did you just run from these ppeople??

Thank you soo much for sharing.  I really appreciate it

Abbey, my brother still refuses to believe that she is a sociopath. He says she is bi-polar. I cannot even begin to describe the differences. He will not realize what has happened & is happening in front of his eyes. He is embarrassed & ashamed of how he has treated his family in the past because of this woman. She has his 2 children with her & has recently taken them out of state. he is afraid to even think about what she could do to them. They are terrified of her! I am friends with a psychologist & am hoping some time soon I can get my brother, myself & her together to make him understand what she is. It is so hard. Also, sociopaths are RARELY diagnosed, they are IDENTIFYED by the behavior. A sociopath believes everyone else around them is crazy, but not themselves. There is so so much more over the years. Really unbelievable!!

YES !!!  that is him.  In almost every conversation he accuses others of having mental problems, especially anyone who is successful. 

I have known this woman for 13 long years. i am currently trying to piece together all of the things that I know about. Dear God only knows what my brother knows! I have written some down over the years & she has been investigated by my family but my brother doesn't know this. She has a lengthy criminal history! In order for him to get custody of his kids, we have to prove some of the things she has done, alot of which he is not willing to admit, at least in front of a judge. It will take some time but I will post some things from time to time so you can see what I have. It will be hard to believe that my brother could be so blind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:45:39 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 09:46:51 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?



Me too, Thanx for the morning laugh  ::MonkeyHaHa::

When was this taking??

MORNING MONKEYS!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 09:47:31 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 



The best choice I made at 19 was NOT to marry the father of my child. Otherwise I fear I would have ended up in an abusive relationship. He was already playing head games with me and I decided I wasn't going to stick around and wait for it to get physical.

I developed an allergy to men. Still allergic 20 years later. LOL!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 09:47:47 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 
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Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:48:21 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 



Thank you Flossy. I have been through hell and lived to tell about it. I'm gald though. All of those things made me a better person and a better mother. 

I'd like to say that the monkeys are the most intelligent, compassionate and witty group of people I've had the pleasure of interacting with. You are on par with my daughter and my late grandfather in terms of having a deep, intellectual discussion. And you monkeys should take that as the very highest of compliments. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 09:48:41 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 




Flossy.... I have found someone to treat me like a queen....myself!!!!!

ME TOO Cubbee!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 09:49:05 AM
Sorry this photo seems odd to me.

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07HD2I6dkW7YX/610x.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe it is my warped sense of humor but ... I find this photo hilarious.

Janet




Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I am trying to catch up....but, doesn't Lee look "well-dressed"?



Me too, Thanx for the morning laugh  ::MonkeyHaHa::

When was this taking??

MORNING MONKEYS!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

July 25th, Lisa. Good morning.

Morning to all the monkeys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 09:49:10 AM
I think of Casey and other narcissists, sociopaths living in a carefully constructed self-contained little world. If you make a crack in their world by challenging them with reality, they will do anything to repair the crack and get back to living in their own little world. Cindy cracked Casey's world June 15th. You better believe that if cindy went to visit her parents and learnd of Casey's theft that day, all hell broke loose when she got home. (We've all seen Cindy's temperment. It is not a steady and easy-going one.) She and Casey fought that evening. She told Casey she'd had enough of her lies and stealing and bullsh**. She may have even physically fought with Casey. This cracked the facade Casey worked so hard on. In order to restore her little world and get revenge on her mom, Casey killed Caylee. The partying, the tattoo, the shopping, that was all her living in her own little world and returning to her normal, never mind Caylee. And on July 15th, crack. Again, Cindy came in and disturbed Casey's facade.

Yep, in a rage Casey killed Caylee. She has to keep her fantasy life going. Why else would a normal middle class young woman call her baby sitter a "nanny". Cause that's what wealthy children have.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 17, 2008, 09:49:54 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(

I really think that when dealing with a person like that, we all tend to do that to an extent - especially at first,  because it's just hard to fathom that a person can be so totally dishonest and deceptive.   It happens to the best of us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:50:23 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.
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Hi, mstam!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:51:14 AM
Red sunglasses?

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/cowboys/miscpics071.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:51:20 AM
I think of Casey and other narcissists, sociopaths living in a carefully constructed self-contained little world. If you make a crack in their world by challenging them with reality, they will do anything to repair the crack and get back to living in their own little world. Cindy cracked Casey's world June 15th. You better believe that if cindy went to visit her parents and learnd of Casey's theft that day, all hell broke loose when she got home. (We've all seen Cindy's temperment. It is not a steady and easy-going one.) She and Casey fought that evening. She told Casey she'd had enough of her lies and stealing and bullsh**. She may have even physically fought with Casey. This cracked the facade Casey worked so hard on. In order to restore her little world and get revenge on her mom, Casey killed Caylee. The partying, the tattoo, the shopping, that was all her living in her own little world and returning to her normal, never mind Caylee. And on July 15th, crack. Again, Cindy came in and disturbed Casey's facade.

After reading soooo much last things are becoming clearer.  Cindy could be the ultimate victim of a sociopath.  Maybe they will study this case when the dust settles.  The most clever sociopaths make their victims their accomplices.  The sociopath's target is initially the victim of lying, stealing, manipulation, but when the sociopath convinces the target that they (the sociopath is the victim) then the real victim becomes the accomplice by supporting the sociopath's lies and protecting them and in a lot of cases the victim will commit crimes to cover for the sociopath.
Vicious Cycle !!!!
DID that all make sense?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:52:04 AM
The one thing that has not been leaked is any news about that shovel they recovered as evidence.  Curious what they found on it.  Dirt?  Body fluids?  Blood?  Hair?

I wonder about that too. Could that be part of the NEW organic evidence Des talked about? When was it found -- around Labor Day weekend? Hmm. Maybe that was the piece the state atty's office was waiting for and received confirmation in late September that testing was complete. And maybe there is even more NEW evidence now ... I think there is sooo much to convict Casey. She will be shocked and dismayed when it comes to light.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flossy on October 17, 2008, 09:52:06 AM
The best choice I made at 19 was NOT to marry the father of my child. Otherwise I fear I would have ended up in an abusive relationship. He was already playing head games with me and I decided I wasn't going to stick around and wait for it to get physical.

I developed an allergy to men. Still allergic 20 years later. LOL!


Oh, I'm right there with you - and I've been married for 12 years!  No wonder I wish I could buy Benadryl by the case. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 09:52:37 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Yep they move to another "host". That is the psych term for their victims. I researched this topic to no end when I was involved with this man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
I think of Casey and other narcissists, sociopaths living in a carefully constructed self-contained little world. If you make a crack in their world by challenging them with reality, they will do anything to repair the crack and get back to living in their own little world. Cindy cracked Casey's world June 15th. You better believe that if cindy went to visit her parents and learnd of Casey's theft that day, all hell broke loose when she got home. (We've all seen Cindy's temperment. It is not a steady and easy-going one.) She and Casey fought that evening. She told Casey she'd had enough of her lies and stealing and bullsh**. She may have even physically fought with Casey. This cracked the facade Casey worked so hard on. In order to restore her little world and get revenge on her mom, Casey killed Caylee. The partying, the tattoo, the shopping, that was all her living in her own little world and returning to her normal, never mind Caylee. And on July 15th, crack. Again, Cindy came in and disturbed Casey's facade.

After reading soooo much last things are becoming clearer.  Cindy could be the ultimate victim of a sociopath.  Maybe they will study this case when the dust settles.  The most clever sociopaths make their victims their accomplices.  The sociopath's target is initially the victim of lying, stealing, manipulation, but when the sociopath convinces the target that they (the sociopath is the victim) then the real victim becomes the accomplice by supporting the sociopath's lies and protecting them and in a lot of cases the victim will commit crimes to cover for the sociopath.
Vicious Cycle !!!!
DID that all make sense?????

Yes, it does!!! My 3 year old grand daughter is here with me & she hates it when I'm on the computer, so she tears the house up accordingly! I have to go play with her a bit but I'll BBL!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 09:55:28 AM
The best choice I made at 19 was NOT to marry the father of my child. Otherwise I fear I would have ended up in an abusive relationship. He was already playing head games with me and I decided I wasn't going to stick around and wait for it to get physical.

I developed an allergy to men. Still allergic 20 years later. LOL!


Oh, I'm right there with you - and I've been married for 12 years!  No wonder I wish I could buy Benadryl by the case. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

I am right there with you monkeys LOL My ex was physically abusive (broken neck and all) This one that I messed up and married is a control freak!!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 09:56:38 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 09:58:11 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.

He said he was with a friend, so it should be able to be confirmed easily.  Where is the friend and what doe she say????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 10:00:05 AM
NOTE TO ALL NEWBIES!

I SEE complaints of being ignored and I totally relate!  I've been here for over 3 years and STILL do, even when it's slow tonight.

So don't feel bad!  ::MonkeyWink::

He must be busier than we are tonight!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Dihanna!...Im new to!

I know you are sweety.  I've been here for over 3 years, since the beginning of the Natalee Holloway case.  I've posted 4 times tonight, one directly to another poster and not one response until now.   I always understand when it's busy, I don't even bother to post.  I thought I learned to get used to it, but it's hard when you have so much time here.   

You keep up the good work,  I read all your posts!  ::MonkeyWink::

I guess because im a regular on 2 other boards I was used to the being ignored...lol!  I wouldnt call it being ignored, there are just to many interesting and funny posts to respond to.

I thought I'd have more fun with Murt but he's ignoring me too  ::MonkeyWaa::
I sometimes reply to post just so people do not feel ignored....Then they ignore my reply..GO FIGURE!
sorry, not ignoring you, multitasking - watching murt in another window :-)

Hey but what's even worse than that is when you post a reply to someone and they ignore you, and then, one of the un-ignored posters posts the same reply, which of course is not ignored  ::MonkeyLaugh::

exactly!  related to this is when we post with what we think is a really great idea and one person replies.  then other monkeys jump on the one reply ignoring who wrote the idea in the first place.  i've seen that happen a lot, not just in here. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: monkey deep on October 17, 2008, 10:00:12 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.

Good Morning MOnkeys!!!!

Goodnmad, I agree with you on this one. I am leaning more toward the first witness who said she thinks she seen her coming out of the woods with a ballcap on. Straw hat would drawl too much attention!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 10:01:14 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 




Flossy.... I have found someone to treat me like a queen....myself!!!!!

ME TOO Cubbee!!


Much more peaceful, huh Nikki!
My motto is....IF LIFE DOESN"T GIVE YOU WHAT YOU DESERVE.....
GIVE IT TO YOURSELF!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:01:50 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.

He said he was with a friend, so it should be able to be confirmed easily.  Where is the friend and what doe she say????

good point. I'm going to file this away for now.

But Boggy Creek. I know we've heard of that before the underpass car switcheroo the other day. Was it searched? Is it an area within that target on the map from Dr. Goodwin? And let's keep in mind, she could have had multiple dump spots.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 10:03:12 AM

1. She/he reacts to criticism with feelings of rage, shame or humiliation (even if not expressed).

Yes

No
2. She/he is interpersonally exploitive (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve her/his goals).

Yes

No
3. She/he has a grandiose sense of self-importance (i.e., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be treated as "special" without appropriate achievement).

Yes

No
4. She/he believes that his/her problems are unique and can be understood only by other special people (or other people who see their specialness).

Yes

No
5. She/he is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love.

Yes

No
6. She/he has a sense of entitlement (i.e., an unreasonable expectation of favorable treatment)

Yes

No
7. She/he requires constant attention and admiration to bolster self-esteem.

Yes

No
8. She/he lacks empathy (i.e., inability to recognize and experience how others feel).

Yes

No
9. She/he is preoccupied with feelings of envy.

Yes

No


This is a quiz from http://www.personalityone.com/narcissistic-personality-disorder-quiz.html

If you pass, does it mean you fail, or if you fail does it mean you passed?   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 10:04:20 AM
night always!
Im not going yet, Im waiting for HH.  I wish I had a puppy to sleep on my feet!!!

Sorry..im starving..a handful of cashews didnt cut it for dinner.  My brain is malnourished.

awww kat... uploading you some nanner bread!   ::MonkeyWink::

good morning all monkeys, to those posting and those who are quiet!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
Red sunglasses?

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/cowboys/miscpics071.jpg)

There is that clover again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: cubbeegirl on October 17, 2008, 10:05:00 AM
I found a picture of Caylee that looks like she is mad at someone.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Cayleemad.jpg)

That pic made me smile

I love children




It made me smile too. It looks like a "what you talking about willis?" kinda look. :)


I LOVE THIS PIC!!!!! I wish that we would all be wrong and Caylee would turn up alive and well....I would gladly write a weekly apology letter to the Anthony family for life if only it could be so..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 10:05:03 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.   

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!

Goodnmad, every time I read one of your posts, I perceive you as being wise beyond your years. 




Flossy.... I have found someone to treat me like a queen....myself!!!!!

ME TOO Cubbee!!


Much more peaceful, huh Nikki!
My motto is....IF LIFE DOESN"T GIVE YOU WHAT YOU DESERVE.....
GIVE IT TO YOURSELF!!!!

BINGO !!!!  My mom and dad raised all us girls to always be able to take care of ourselves cause he wouldn't be here forever, be able to fix anything and if we cant fix it, be able to pay someone to do it for us. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 10:06:28 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 10:06:33 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Yep they move to another "host". That is the psych term for their victims. I researched this topic to no end when I was involved with this man.

I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 10:06:50 AM
But Boggy Creek. I know we've heard of that before the underpass car switcheroo the other day. Was it searched? Is it an area within that target on the map from Dr. Goodwin? And let's keep in mind, she could have had multiple dump spots.

(http://www.drmauricegodwin.com/Anthony%20Main%20Search%20Area.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 10:08:38 AM
Hello Monkeys

A question I was just looking around and found this......

Eyewitness Leads WFTV To Wooded Area Where He Thinks He Saw Casey

Has anyone seen this video and if they have what do you think about this guy and his claim to have seen Casey possibly??

JoyJoy - just caught up on reading and that was covered in the last 10ish pages.  I think we are all up in the air on it so far.  I hope he does contact Tim with his info and apparently the lady sighting of Casey was near there too.  So for now, interesting....... 
Must admit, I would like to see the log showing he reported it as early as he claims.......monkey never take anyone's word for anything - we need to sniff it with our tails and see it with our eyes!

JoyJoy.... I don't know what to think of it.....one person says they saw her with a straw hat and one says a baseball hat....dunnoo.... ::MonkeyConfused::

well.. like other monkeys have mentioned, maybe casey went out one day in a baseball cap and another day with a straw hat.  she could have buried caylee then on another day got rid of the evidence, dressed differently.  heck, she could have done that all on one day and just did a change up in between.  with casey, who knows!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 10:08:47 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

I agree, CIndy was the parent tearing down her world. Hands on is correct sir.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:11:21 AM
Tomm -- for Casey I'm giving yes to every single one.

And I think it is important to point out -- as the doc on NG has -- that personality disorders are NOT mental illnesses. Now, I'm not sure if the defense would try to use the personality disorder to Casey's advantage and hope the jury cannot differentiate say b/t a person w/ a personality disorder (sociopath) and mental illness (schizophrenic). Sympathy? See she can't help it that she is this way. My response as the prosecutor would be "True, maybe she can't help it, and she cannot be rehabilitated, and she is a danger to society. So there. In your smarmy little face Baez!" (Oh, sorry, guess I shouldn't say that in court!)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 10:12:25 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Saw George's interview from yesterday and wow, he's talking crazy just like Cindy!  I'm starting to think the PI's are jacking around with them to keep the money flowing.  Also, I have been trying to find pictures of Sean Daly wearing a straw cowboy hat and I think there is a pic of Amy wearing it also (could be wrong).  The red sunglasses that Casey is wearing I have seen worn with straw cowboy hats.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: monkey deep on October 17, 2008, 10:12:33 AM
I also do believe it could have been a strangulation or the xanax. I do not think any blood is involved, IMO.

Also this is an old thought I am sure.... but if they come out to say it was a ransom ordeal or she owed money for drugs  or something to someone, I would not buy it because if that were the case, why not write a few checks to yourself from Amy's checking account for cash to have money to pay, instead she goes shopping at target etc.

BTW... I did not see anything new on NG last night, has anything new been discovered since then? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 10:13:46 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.

Good Morning MOnkeys!!!!

Goodnmad, I agree with you on this one. I am leaning more toward the first witness who said she thinks she seen her coming out of the woods with a ballcap on. Straw hat would drawl too much attention!


I believe him, I called the tip line and Carpe sent photos to the tip line.
 They couldn't care less what we had to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 10:14:22 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(

I really think that when dealing with a person like that, we all tend to do that to an extent - especially at first,  because it's just hard to fathom that a person can be so totally dishonest and deceptive.   It happens to the best of us.

When I look back at my experience, I think how could I have been so stupid....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 10:14:47 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 10:15:05 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!

Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

I agree, CIndy was the parent tearing down her world. Hands on is correct sir.



And Cindy finally trying to make Casey accountable for her actions backfired. 

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

Rob, this theory is particularly fitting if Cindy choked Casey during their fight on the 15th. I can see this happening. But what do you make of the chloroform? It has always stuck out like a sore thumb in my mind. A red herring? Part of a kidnapping story gone awry?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:17:15 AM
When I look back at my experience, I think how could I have been so stupid....

Not stupid at all. Think of it as you needed to learn something and you did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 10:17:16 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Hi, mstam!!! ::MonkeyTongue::
[/quote]

good Morning sweet little Monken... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 10:17:26 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(

I really think that when dealing with a person like that, we all tend to do that to an extent - especially at first,  because it's just hard to fathom that a person can be so totally dishonest and deceptive.   It happens to the best of us.

When I look back at my experience, I think how could I have been so stupid....


Yes, I felt the same way. His stories were so outlandish but I believed them. And, like KC, he had details, so who was I to question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 10:17:56 AM
One other thing please. Will there be a new document dump for the indictment, or will it be for Jose's eyes only?

I am sure we have a Monkey that knows.

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Saw George's interview from yesterday and wow, he's talking crazy just like Cindy!  I'm starting to think the PI's are jacking around with them to keep the money flowing.  Also, I have been trying to find pictures of Sean Daly wearing a straw cowboy hat and I think there is a pic of Amy wearing it also (could be wrong).  The red sunglasses that Casey is wearing I have seen worn with straw cowboy hats.

Lisa


Now that makes more sense. I was thinking of a wide-brimmed gardening hat. Then again, maybe Cindy had one of those. Hmm. Good thoughts Lisa.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 10:19:41 AM
Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

Rob, this theory is particularly fitting if Cindy choked Casey during their fight on the 15th. I can see this happening. But what do you make of the chloroform? It has always stuck out like a sore thumb in my mind. A red herring? Part of a kidnapping story gone awry?

I think the chloro was the nanny. Caylee could sleep through anything, even poker night.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 10:19:55 AM


Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p
[/quote]

The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:21:35 AM
I believe him, I called the tip line and Carpe sent photos to the tip line.
 They couldn't care less what we had to say.


That part I can believe. I wonder if LE will ask him to take a poly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:22:28 AM
I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet

Please mail to the Anthonys' neighbors on Hopespring Drive.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 10:23:14 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(

I really think that when dealing with a person like that, we all tend to do that to an extent - especially at first,  because it's just hard to fathom that a person can be so totally dishonest and deceptive.   It happens to the best of us.

When I look back at my experience, I think how could I have been so stupid....


Yes, I felt the same way. His stories were so outlandish but I believed them. And, like KC, he had details, so who was I to question.

Me too.  me too.  His ultimate victim is his niece, who is a very successful dentist married to successful cosmetic surgeon.  I am wondering if i should tell her and her husband.  I think not because blood is thicker than water and i dont think she can be objective because of that lifelong bond and years of abuse she has suffered by him and i have witnessed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: abbey09 on October 17, 2008, 10:24:01 AM
I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet

Please mail to the Anthonys' neighbors on Hopespring Drive.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 10:24:44 AM
ok, what did you guys make of this Paul Kovach fellow? He says he called it in and no one ever got back to him, which may be true b/c I've heard tales of the ineptitude of the tipline here on SM.

Why come forward now? Why on tv? It bothers me. Unless his calling the tipline can be verified and the call was made months ago, I'm not buying it.


A straw hat? That detail seems out of place to me. He has not provided anything he could not have gotten from following the case in the media. It's interesting but I'm skeptical.

He said he was with a friend, so it should be able to be confirmed easily.  Where is the friend and what doe she say????

If I was LE, I'd hook them up to the lie detector. They should have called LE directly. imo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that so many of you have been through hell with men who were abusive (mentally, emotionally and/or physically) and treated you horribly.  

I have to say, though, that each of you sound very strong and I admire you!  I'm glad you were able to get out of those relationships and I hope you either have found or will find someone that will treat you like queens!


TY...the most difficult part of the ordeal for me was that I was so easily fooled and fell for his nutty stories. I questioned myself more than him. He would often tell me I was too trusting and assume someone is lying but I didnt' pick up on it. :(

I really think that when dealing with a person like that, we all tend to do that to an extent - especially at first,  because it's just hard to fathom that a person can be so totally dishonest and deceptive.   It happens to the best of us.

When I look back at my experience, I think how could I have been so stupid....

You weren't stupid, it was a learning experience!  You now know that personality type and to avoid it.  My ex-fiance had personality disorders and made my life a living hell for four years.  I got pregnant and he told me I had to have an abortion, and managed to convince his family and friends that it was the right thing for me to do.  He always had a way of making himself look like the victim in our relationship, though I was the one receiving the mental and physical abuse.  He would yell at me in front of people and had this amazing way of making them think it was my fault.  I thought I could change him, I couldn't.  I finally had to ask myself if this was how I wanted to spend the rest of my life and I thought "no way!"  It's been over ten years since I saw him and I hear from aquaintances that he blames me for all the troubles he has had since I left him. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: goodnmad on October 17, 2008, 10:26:25 AM
ok, monkeys, I gotta go do something "productive" on my day off before my hubby wakes up and catches me hanging out with monkeys. He and my daughter don't get it. She says I am addicted. I do love my monkeys! Be back later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 10:27:45 AM
Klaasend, I am a subscriber to People, so I get it a bit early.  The picture of George and Cindy is one I have not seen.  She has on a black top and is wearing a cross around her neck and is leaning her head on George's shoulder. 

Wonder how much BLOOD MONEY People Magazine paid the subhuman A couple?

It's all about the money, from day one!!!


I respect your right to have that opinion, but I have to disagree with you.  Also, it is my opinion that CA is crazy, GA is trying his best to stay in denial, LA... I'm not sure about him.  However, it is also my opinion that none of these people killed Caylee or caused her to go missing. 


I am seeing posts on forums about getting a law passed so that no one with a missing child can receive donations.  What a bunch of crap!  I would hate to see stupid law like that passed.  I'm sure most of you who feel that way do it because you just hate this particular family, but most families need financial assistance when there the tragedy of a missing person.


well, i'm not sure about the posts on forums you've read, i only know about the ones i've read.  of course the majority of families with missing loved ones do need donations for expenses, etc, and do appreciate those.  it's when a family crosses the line and seemed more focused on the money rather than on the missing loved one, that's when some get hot under the collar.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 10:28:21 AM
Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

Rob, this theory is particularly fitting if Cindy choked Casey during their fight on the 15th. I can see this happening. But what do you make of the chloroform? It has always stuck out like a sore thumb in my mind. A red herring? Part of a kidnapping story gone awry?

I think the chloro was the nanny. Caylee could sleep through anything, even poker night.




Because of the high levels of chloroform, I have always wondered if someone with knowledge of chloroform (GA-the ex cop; CA-the nurse) would have used it to clean the trunk of the car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 10:31:08 AM
Dominic Casey, Private Investigator
D&A Investigations, Inc

Private Investigative Agency

2735 W. State Road 434
Longwood, Florida 32779
United States of America

Tel: 407-865-7152
Fax: 407-865-7158

E dominic@dgator.com

Prob. already posted...still reading.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 10:34:35 AM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:

just want to comment on the 'dirt' in florida.  i live in nebraska, so found a post from long ago to have been very interesting and informative.  it seems the dirt in florida is more sandy than the dirt i'm used to here.  and that mixture of sand reportedly makes it more difficult to not only dig in, but to cover something up as well.  the more one digs down into it, the more sand just falls into the hole being dug, that kind of thing.  my bet is that if caylee has been buried, she's in a shallow grave, just because of the mix of sand with the dirt. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Monken on October 17, 2008, 10:35:21 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Yep they move to another "host". That is the psych term for their victims. I researched this topic to no end when I was involved with this man.

I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet

You won't believe how much you will relate! Anyone dealing with a sociopath has to read this book!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 10:35:48 AM
D&A Construction Consulting, Inc.

Construction Claims & Investigations

2735 West SR 434
Longwood, Florida 32779
United States of America

Contact: Mr. Dominic Casey
Tel: 407.865.7151
Fax: 407.865.7158

Seems to be an expert witness on Construction claims?? WTF?? I give up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 10:39:44 AM
D&A Construction Consulting, Inc.

Construction Claims & Investigations

2735 West SR 434
Longwood, Florida 32779
United States of America

Contact: Mr. Dominic Casey
Tel: 407.865.7151
Fax: 407.865.7158

Seems to be an expert witness on Construction claims?? WTF?? I give up.



here's link to his specialties....and missing persons is NOT one of them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 10:40:31 AM
DUH.....forgot the link....

http://www.fali.com/Search_Results44.CFM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 10:41:32 AM
Actually, I'm wondering if the chloroform could have been part of the supposed kidnapping plot, as someone said above. But, that little subterfuge didn't work out like it was supposed to, so Casey got rid of the chloroform soaked cloth or whatever she had.

Also, is there a personality disorder for someone who seems to be as controlling as Cindy is? I swear we have someone like that where I work. For the people she supervises, she doesn't want anything discussed unless she's in the room, plus she demands they copy her on every email they send and receive. On top of that, she gets angry easily just like Cindy does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 10:43:29 AM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Yep they move to another "host". That is the psych term for their victims. I researched this topic to no end when I was involved with this man.

I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet

You won't believe how much you will relate! Anyone dealing with a sociopath has to read this book!!!!!!

Yes it is a fantastic book. While reading it I kept saying..."oh yeah"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 10:44:20 AM
http://dgator.com/contactus.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KnayKnay on October 17, 2008, 10:48:58 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: Good morning  ::MonkeyDance::

Have you guys seen this video??????????? George admits Casey's involved in something sinister and then says Caylee's been spotted in 9 different locations? Wow - my head spins daily with all of this stuff.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

It's the video called "George Anthony Speaks"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BeachGirl4 on October 17, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
::MonkeyDance:: Good morning  ::MonkeyDance::

Have you guys seen this video??????????? George admits Casey's involved in something sinister and then says Caylee's been spotted in 9 different locations? Wow - my head spins daily with all of this stuff.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

It's the video called "George Anthony Speaks"


WOW...and he is admitting he has thought about suicide.  It will never surprise me the day he takes his own life. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 10:53:44 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: IMissThirdGrade on October 17, 2008, 11:01:14 AM
::MonkeyDance:: Good morning  ::MonkeyDance::

Have you guys seen this video??????????? George admits Casey's involved in something sinister and then says Caylee's been spotted in 9 different locations? Wow - my head spins daily with all of this stuff.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

It's the video called "George Anthony Speaks"


I sure hope LE knows about his statement of Casey being involved with something. 

And just wanted to throw this out there too...its only my opinion.

Joser Baez works for Casey and he MUST do what Casey asks of him.  I'm certain the guy has told her to plea this out, show us the body and let's go with accident....but she refuses.  As long as his client refuses to admit anything he can NOT say differently.  His case is surely cut out for him...he has to find forensic experts to dispute the evidence.  That's about all he CAN do.  She leaves him no other option.

So while we all laugh at him, we should be laughing at Casey. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 11:03:02 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

You know, I've given some thought to people getting behind when there is lots of stuff to wade through that isn't like hard news.

I know the mods have made lots of threads that are facts/reports only with no discussion, but some folks still have a hard time getting through everything that's in the main thread.

I was wondering if it would be helpful at all if we had some sort of icon for Off Topic that people could post at the top of any post that included things not directly case related. That way,the people who don't have a lot of time to catch up would know to scroll past those posts without pausing to check them out. At the same time, those who want to swap good mornings, etc. wouldn't get into trouble for doing that.

Just a thought (and maybe a bad one).  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 11:03:41 AM
Today's Updates:  Casey Anthony's court dates set
10:35 a.m. Casey Anthony is scheduled to be arraigned in the first-degree murder case Oct. 28.

The arraignment will be held at 8:45 a.m. before Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland.

She has a pre-trial hearing scheduled Nov. 5 for the child neglect and check fraud cases. That also will be heard before Strickland.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 11:04:17 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

If you bothered to check posts this morning and not just late last night, you'ld find some very informative posts and links.  Too bad you skipped ahead so far.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
Possible Prison Time
If Anthony is convicted of the multiple charges against her, she could be looking at major prison time.

Anthony could even face the death penalty for the first-degree murder charge.

She could also be sentenced to a maximum of 30 years for aggravated child abuse, another 30 years for aggravated manslaughter of a child, and five additional years for each of the four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer.

That does not include the charges of check fraud against Casey Anthony

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 11:08:18 AM
Id like to see NG sell stuff at the ball game - ICE COLD BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR..
giggle/ you said "ice cold beerbear" ::MonkeyEek::
Oh! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 11:09:29 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 11:10:09 AM
::MonkeyDance:: Good morning  ::MonkeyDance::

Have you guys seen this video??????????? George admits Casey's involved in something sinister and then says Caylee's been spotted in 9 different locations? Wow - my head spins daily with all of this stuff.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

It's the video called "George Anthony Speaks"
  He says Casey is involved in something and they will have to work through that.  I guess it's another secret they're keeping to themselves.  I don't want George to take his life, I want him to tell what he really knows.  Then, he can have a better life and a reason to live.  Instead of hanging his head in shame and lying to himself, he needs to free himself.  I'm in a crabby mood today but if he does take his own life he better take Cindy with him. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 11:14:06 AM
If everything posted on here was so formal, I dont think you would get alot of members.  I dont see whats wrong with people saying hi or good morning and making jokes to lighten up the mood with such a horrible situation.  There are some really articulate and funny people on here that keeps me coming back.  I mean look at Klaas pictures and some of the other posts...they are hilarious!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 11:14:31 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::okay, I probably shouldn't have posted that, I told you I was crabby.
Of course I don't want him to do anything to Cindy.  I just want her to tell the truth or STFU.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 11:14:34 AM
Is Chuck George's alter ego?  Hmmm

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 11:16:21 AM
Is Chuck George's alter ego?  Hmmm

Lisa
I was thinking starts with a "d" and rhymes with tennis.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 11:17:12 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

You know, I've given some thought to people getting behind when there is lots of stuff to wade through that isn't like hard news.

I know the mods have made lots of threads that are facts/reports only with no discussion, but some folks still have a hard time getting through everything that's in the main thread.

I was wondering if it would be helpful at all if we had some sort of icon for Off Topic that people could post at the top of any post that included things not directly case related. That way,the people who don't have a lot of time to catch up would know to scroll past those posts without pausing to check them out. At the same time, those who want to swap good mornings, etc. wouldn't get into trouble for doing that.

Just a thought (and maybe a bad one).  ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm not complaining- I often "muse" myself.   Just noticed a lot more musings than usual, so I figured I might as well ffwd to the last page and hope I didn't miss anything major.  No biggie.  ::MonkeyWink::  I'm not giving anybody a hard time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
Jiminy Freakin' Christmas people...  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Is it a huge problem I don't have time to read everything today? I have to take my son to therapy.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 11:19:56 AM
Jiminy Freakin' Christmas people...  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Is it a huge problem I don't have time to read everything today? I have to take my son to therapy.   ::MonkeyConfused::

awe..hope your son is ok.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 11:21:06 AM
Tomm - my theory remains the same ~ Casey hated her mother more than she loved her daughter and after the "choking" fight killed Caylee on the night of the 15th.

I think this is a strangulation. When someone is in a RAGE - THEY ARE HANDS ON.

I do not think she drugged Caylee with chloroform to cause her death, but something is preventing her from disclosing the location of the body. That could be the chloroform itself will be found in / on her remains, or more likely in my opinion - a broken Hyoid bone in her (Caylee's) neck.

Hyoid bone images -
http://tinyurl.com/5wth9p

Rob, this theory is particularly fitting if Cindy choked Casey during their fight on the 15th. I can see this happening. But what do you make of the chloroform? It has always stuck out like a sore thumb in my mind. A red herring? Part of a kidnapping story gone awry?

thanks for asking goodnmad...

The chloroform being discovered in the area of the yard where the cadaver dogs hit, tells me that Casey or her accomplice, most likely Casey, poured the liquid chloroform in that area TO MASK THE SMELL - JUST LIKE THE CAR.

The chloroform was used to mask and not kill in my opinion - and - your thoughts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 11:21:22 AM
Jiminy Freakin' Christmas people...  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Is it a huge problem I don't have time to read everything today? I have to take my son to therapy.   ::MonkeyConfused::

 :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 11:21:23 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!
Morning Tomm, coffee????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MumInOhio on October 17, 2008, 11:22:27 AM
O/T

We had some wonderful Monkeys making phone calls when TES was in Orlando last, and we are looking for some help with the same for the Pre-organization for Clinton's search in Louisiana by TES next month.

This would be Colleges, ROTC Programs etc, an initial contact call and followed up with a flyer by email.

If any Monkeys can spare a little time and could help, please leave a post in the Search thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3638.0

Thanks in Advance...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 11:23:21 AM
Hey guys...ever since I got out of the ER, I have been really sick.....all of my electrolytes are outta whack, and I feel like Casey looks..like chit..... ::MonkeyTongue::I have been sleeping mostly...and been at the doc's office for more blood work.....

A wee bit better today though...

Soooooo, can you guys update me on important stuff? Pretty please?
I am so worried about you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
SEEME I "adjusted" it. Hope you don't mind!

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/caseypeople2.jpg)

and some Anthony Kool -Aid for anyone who wants it.

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/hillbilly.gif)

Good Morning ALL!

Rob,
It took me a few seconds to catch your adjustment.....too little sleep ::MonkeyHaHa::
But I like your (adjustment) version better! Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 11:24:57 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 
Spooky, indeed --but, like mentioned -- Google satellite maps are generally 3-4 years old. Also, unless Orlando was in a drought at the time, the grass looks a little more "Fallish" to me.
Fallish grass, who knew????  Im going out to look at mine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 11:25:32 AM
I realize there have been a few cases where the child was found alive after a year or several years, like Elizabeth Smart and the kid Sean that was kidnapped but the pizza guy in the midwest, but there was no DNA suggesting a dead body was in the trunk in those cases.  No one smelled a dead body smell.  The Anthonys are acting like there is absolutely no eveidence when there is.  I dont call DNA evidence circumstantial.  There has got to be someone in this world that can get them to wake up and smell the coffee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 11:25:37 AM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 11:26:51 AM

awe..hope your son is ok.

Thanks. :)  He has Autism, so he has Speech and OT therapy.


Thanks, BT. I appreciate that.   :smt060

You all have fun. BBL.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 11:29:10 AM
::MonkeyDance:: Good morning  ::MonkeyDance::

Have you guys seen this video??????????? George admits Casey's involved in something sinister and then says Caylee's been spotted in 9 different locations? Wow - my head spins daily with all of this stuff.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

It's the video called "George Anthony Speaks"
  He says Casey is involved in something and they will have to work through that.  I guess it's another secret they're keeping to themselves.  I don't want George to take his life, I want him to tell what he really knows.  Then, he can have a better life and a reason to live.  Instead of hanging his head in shame and lying to himself, he needs to free himself.  I'm in a crabby mood today but if he does take his own life he better take Cindy with him. 



There must be a book somewhere....."Talking in Anthony Code outside the Asylum walls" ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 11:33:54 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 
Spooky, indeed --but, like mentioned -- Google satellite maps are generally 3-4 years old. Also, unless Orlando was in a drought at the time, the grass looks a little more "Fallish" to me.
Fallish grass, who knew????  Im going out to look at mine.
..uuuuuhhh, I was right smartass!! Taken October/06. Definitely "Fallish"!  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 11:34:28 AM
Don't know if this has ever been discussed but I found this on Dennis Milstead, founder of KidFinders who are supplying the moving billboard and financial support to the anthonys.

http://courtcon1.co.palm-beach.fl.us/pls/jiwp/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=D&case_id=502002MM007101AXXXMB&begin_date=&end_date=

If you look here, it appears that they are definitely one and the same.  Look at related companies at the address of KidFinders and you will see the "gotcha billboard" referenced in the legal doc at the first link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 11:34:43 AM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.

IIRC (yay! I got to use it!!)  NG had asked Kobe if they could determine COD if there were only skeletal remains.  He said yes if, for example, a skull fracture or a crushed hyoid bone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 11:34:53 AM
I have been researching the "rage" that may have pushed Casey to kill Caylee. See what you think.

Narcissistic rage

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive. The explosive form being an obvious anger, for example, damaging property (or people) and being verbally abusive. The passive-aggressive sort might be sulking or giving their target the silent treatment. They can become enraged to the point of being homicidal especially if he/she has the need to seek revenge. Narcissistic rage is usually short lasting, but can provoke problems towards those that the anger is targeted towards.

I cannot remember which boyfriend/lover/booty call boy was describing Casey's temper as "horrible".

Please comment.

Good morning Monkeys!!!!
Morning Tomm, coffee????
Mmmm Coffe, thank you

I am eating chocolate covered coffee beans now. I love being wired


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 11:34:57 AM
Don't know if this has ever been discussed but I found this on Dennis Milstead, founder of KidFinders who are supplying the moving billboard and financial support to the anthonys.

http://courtcon1.co.palm-beach.fl.us/pls/jiwp/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=D&case_id=502002MM007101AXXXMB&begin_date=&end_date=

If you look here, it appears that they are definitely one and the same.  Look at related companies at the address of KidFinders and you will see the "gotcha billboard" referenced in the legal doc at the first link.
forgot the second link:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Royal-Palm-Beach/kid-finders-network-inc-5130428.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 11:35:56 AM
That google pic is spooky to say the least...I can't tell if the car has a black bra on it or not. 
Spooky, indeed --but, like mentioned -- Google satellite maps are generally 3-4 years old. Also, unless Orlando was in a drought at the time, the grass looks a little more "Fallish" to me.
Fallish grass, who knew????  Im going out to look at mine.
..uuuuuhhh, I was right smartass!! Taken October/06. Definitely "Fallish"!  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue::
Love you too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 11:36:34 AM
In this video George said he was going to take his own life a couple weeks ago ::MonkeyNoNo::....he says they think Caylee is in PR...... ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: monkey deep on October 17, 2008, 11:37:23 AM
I realize there have been a few cases where the child was found alive after a year or several years, like Elizabeth Smart and the kid Sean that was kidnapped but the pizza guy in the midwest, but there was no DNA suggesting a dead body was in the trunk in those cases.  No one smelled a dead body smell.  The Anthony's are acting like there is absolutely no evidence when there is.  I dont call DNA evidence circumstantial.  There has got to be someone in this world that can get them to wake up and smell the coffee.

I agree.... and remember the only thing that gave LE a lead to investigate a possible death was CA 911 statement of a "dead body in the damn car smell". I believe if she had not made that statement, it would have taken a while to figure it all out. That along with Casey's book of lies. I think LE is doing a wonderful job. and if by some fluke Caylee is alive and traveling in 9 different places    ::MonkeyRoll::
it still does not explain the fact that Evidence proves there was a dead body in the trunk... Gee Casey who DID you kill then? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 11:38:50 AM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.

IIRC (yay! I got to use it!!)  NG had asked Kobe if they could determine COD if there were only skeletal remains.  He said yes if, for example, a skull fracture or a crushed hyoid bone.
oohh ookk

it's all about context.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 11:42:03 AM
In this video George said he was going to take his own life a couple weeks ago ::MonkeyNoNo::....he says they think Caylee is in PR...... ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

I don't think anything is worth taking your life over... and even this will pass and there will be brighter days...

but George has his demons... I hope the guy doesn't do anything stoopid. It will just lead people like me to question his motives for taking his life - ala Melinda Duckett.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: OurAngelCaylee on October 17, 2008, 11:42:18 AM
In this video George said he was going to take his own life a couple weeks ago ::MonkeyNoNo::....he says they think Caylee is in PR...... ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

he was also asked by reporter about the nine locations that was reported to him as tips in seeing a live Caylee has he himself been to these nine locations .... "Oh Yeah I have"....and, George when was that.... that you went to PR...

I continue to hear them (Cindy/George) say that they have gotten a lot of tips from PR... is this because, Caseys' friends went to PR around the time that Caylee went missing and, they are trying to tie Caseys' friends into this.....I would love a reporter to ask one of them "So, George you say that Caylee is in PR Live and well...how do you think she got there ?"....wonder what the answer would be... hmm

If my daughter/grand daughter was missing and, i had that serious of a inclimation that she was in PR...do you think that I would be in Florida ? absolutely NOT... nor do I think any Monkey would be where ever they live if their family member was being said to be deceased and, yet we/they thought that they were in PR... we would be in PR combing the streets...doh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: briannabug123 on October 17, 2008, 11:45:10 AM
i just joined but caylee was so cute and prabably loo started ked alot like her dad and her mom was beautiful till she killed caylee and started patying!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 11:46:49 AM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

You know, I've given some thought to people getting behind when there is lots of stuff to wade through that isn't like hard news.

I know the mods have made lots of threads that are facts/reports only with no discussion, but some folks still have a hard time getting through everything that's in the main thread.

I was wondering if it would be helpful at all if we had some sort of icon for Off Topic that people could post at the top of any post that included things not directly case related. That way,the people who don't have a lot of time to catch up would know to scroll past those posts without pausing to check them out. At the same time, those who want to swap good mornings, etc. wouldn't get into trouble for doing that.

Just a thought (and maybe a bad one).  ::MonkeyTongue::


Would this one due?  :smt098


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: tomm9298 on October 17, 2008, 11:46:52 AM
Special SM bananas for those in need....... On Hopespring Drive

(http://www.intternetti.net/~jiri/motivation/rpg/denial.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 11:48:36 AM
i just joined but caylee was so cute and prabably loo started ked alot like her dad and her mom was beautiful till she killed caylee and started patying!


Welcome!!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: I dont feel tardy on October 17, 2008, 11:50:28 AM
Sorry if this was brought up..I haven't had time to scroll through all the new pages yet. I love TES and what they do in their endeavors to find/locate missing persons etc. BUT how com TES pulled out of FL again off this search?? I mean Tim was on NG few a nights ago saying how they were definitely staying and continuing the search and that it was "going to be the biggest earch ever". It' such a bummer to hear they are going to be searching and then pull out (that happened the last 3 times at least). I mean blaming it on the Anthony's not being cooperative??? The Anthony's haven't been cooperating for the longest time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
i just joined but caylee was so cute and prabably loo started ked alot like her dad and her mom was beautiful till she killed caylee and started patying!

Welcome briannabug!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 11:53:34 AM
Sorry if this was brought up..I haven't had time to scroll through all the new pages yet. I love TES and what they do in their endeavors to find/locate missing persons etc. BUT how com TES pulled out of FL again off this search?? I mean Tim was on NG few a nights ago saying how they were definitely staying and continuing the search and that it was "going to be the biggest earch ever". It' such a bummer to hear they are going to be searching and then pull out (that happened the last 3 times at least). I mean blaming it on the Anthony's not being cooperative??? The Anthony's haven't been cooperating for the longest time.

TES is going to search.  Just because NG had in her headlines last night they were pulling out doesn't make it so. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 11:53:34 AM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.

His earlier NG comments are gonna bit the defense in the azz at the trial.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 11:53:41 AM
CARPE must be really busy no NG's for two days now ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 11:56:27 AM
Don't know if this has ever been discussed but I found this on Dennis Milstead, founder of KidFinders who are supplying the moving billboard and financial support to the anthonys.

http://courtcon1.co.palm-beach.fl.us/pls/jiwp/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=D&case_id=502002MM007101AXXXMB&begin_date=&end_date=

If you look here, it appears that they are definitely one and the same.  Look at related companies at the address of KidFinders and you will see the "gotcha billboard" referenced in the legal doc at the first link.

So this is the Dennis you think might be "Chuck?"  You will have to forgive me, I can be a bit slow on the uptake at times! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 11:58:39 AM
A-1..thank you for worrying..I am ok, though..just got my electrolytes off balance..gonna take me a few days to bounce back...

I am taking applications, though, for anyone who wants to come fan me and feed me grapes as I lounge around for the nest few... ::MonkeyHaHa::

FYI, monkey friends..If any of you get Investgation Discovery channel, or ID..next thursday night at 10 they are featuring a show on murder..and the women who think their actions are justifiable.... ::MonkeyEek:: Though we might could get some good ideas from it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 12:00:27 PM
Jiminy Freakin' Christmas people...  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Is it a huge problem I don't have time to read everything today? I have to take my son to therapy.   ::MonkeyConfused::

anothermonkey ... as far as only the latest developments in the case are concerned ... the Florida media internet sites are a great resource for catching up at the end of the day.

I will attempt to make a compilation of them and ... their related links.  I will watch for your return and ... post them.

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!!

My presence on the forum will be scarce today.  My daughter is home schooling two eldest sons (9/10) this year but she has committments today so ... guess who will be the Teacher on Call (TOC)?  I hope I am more knowledgeable than my grandsons ... grandsons who will be dropped off any minutes.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Have a good day all.

Janet
9:00 AM



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 17, 2008, 12:03:15 PM
I was at page 50-something, wading through endless "musings"... decided to skip ahead to the current page.  I see nothing major is happening?  ::MonkeyRoll::

You know, I've given some thought to people getting behind when there is lots of stuff to wade through that isn't like hard news.

I know the mods have made lots of threads that are facts/reports only with no discussion, but some folks still have a hard time getting through everything that's in the main thread.

I was wondering if it would be helpful at all if we had some sort of icon for Off Topic that people could post at the top of any post that included things not directly case related. That way,the people who don't have a lot of time to catch up would know to scroll past those posts without pausing to check them out. At the same time, those who want to swap good mornings, etc. wouldn't get into trouble for doing that.

Just a thought (and maybe a bad one).  ::MonkeyTongue::


Would this one due?  :smt098

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/offtopic.gif)
But Nut's would do it!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
In this video George said he was going to take his own life a couple weeks ago ::MonkeyNoNo::....he says they think Caylee is in PR...... ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

he was also asked by reporter about the nine locations that was reported to him as tips in seeing a live Caylee has he himself been to these nine locations .... "Oh Yeah I have"....and, George when was that.... that you went to PR...

I continue to hear them (Cindy/George) say that they have gotten a lot of tips from PR... is this because, Caseys' friends went to PR around the time that Caylee went missing and, they are trying to tie Caseys' friends into this.....I would love a reporter to ask one of them "So, George you say that Caylee is in PR Live and well...how do you think she got there ?"....wonder what the answer would be... hmm

If my daughter/grand daughter was missing and, i had that serious of a inclimation that she was in PR...do you think that I would be in Florida ? absolutely NOT... nor do I think any Monkey would be where ever they live if their family member was being said to be deceased and, yet we/they thought that they were in PR... we would be in PR combing the streets...doh

OurAngelCaylee - thanks for that. I guess for me that main problem (and I don't want to give them any ideas) is the LACK OF SCREAMING AND SHOUTING ABOUT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE.

You would think that George and Cindy would be front and center telling the world how wrong all of that "evidence" is. I'm not hearing any of that.

In order for the "kidnapping" story to be believable you need to refute the findings that have your daughter locked up on murder one.

Both stories can not be right and they over-look the part that has convinced a grand jury to indict their daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 12:20:48 PM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.

I agree Rob...I have to go back to the NG transcripts to get a date as to when he said it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 12:23:08 PM
ok Im really sorry Im taking so long...........anyway.....The reason I asked about the shovel is because Im thinking that ....some testing that is being done now is dirt that has been collected from the underside of caseys car....the shovel.........the trunk of the car......and the plastic bag....the neighbor said that the shovel was clean I think...like she hadnt used it but I think it was just cleaned off   which means that dirt from that location was probably found around the rim where the wooden handle goes into the metal.....and I also heard that maybe the fluids that leaked out of the bag  might be on the shovel also..........


Hi HH and Thank you for the information.  If this proves to be true it then must mean that Caylee is in a very shallow grave.  Maybe I should say a very shallow first resting place.  Or do you think this would be the final resting place?  What are your or your and your source's feelings?

PJ :flower:
PJ........I dont know if she went ahead and buried her that day or not I just know for a fact that she was indeed in that location  just about 20 minutes after she borrowed the shovel....and I know that the shovel did have something of importance on it...........

I wonder if she cleaned it off in the pool.  Just considering LP's theory of her retrieving Caylee with the shovel from the pool. 

Hmmm.. good points all.  and considering IF she cleaned the shovel off in the pool, am hoping LE has taken samples of the pool water.  that's of course if pool water can even be tested for anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 12:23:51 PM
Can JB get in trouble for saying he has positive proof that there is a picture of KC, Caylee and ZG and not producing the pic? He is misleading the public and LE in stating he has proof that Caylee is alive, this is an on going investigation, I would think someone in his position would have to be held accountable for the information he says he has.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: monkey deep on October 17, 2008, 12:24:12 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.


 :smt056  Boo  She ahs destroyed the future of all these people  :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 12:25:25 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.


(http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif)  (http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/3.gif)

It is sad that someone like Casey can destroy so many lives. What's even sadder is that there are probably a lot of people like that in the world, destroying lives around them every day, but we don't hear about them unless something tragic happens.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
KC probably wouldn't give a rat's pituty if her father committed suicide, which would break my heart. Her response would be Really? Can I go to the funeral? Can I get a new outfit? Can someone give some of that campho stuff to make me look like I'm crying? Can I blame this on the media?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 12:28:41 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.


Yea...I think the reporter meant traveling to Puerto Rico, Texas, New York and so on.  What a crock...like everyone doesnt see that all he is only at the Caylee tent, driving around the billboard  or screaming at protestors.  There has never been a long enough time where he could be looking.  They just think everyone are idiots and believe every word that comes out of their mouths.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 12:29:11 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.

Her is some Starbucks and a squeeze.  I pretty much agree with your "quote".  It is just crazy that no one can get Casey to tell what really happened. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 12:30:08 PM
I liked LuckyCharms' analysis yesterday of Casey. I think she's absolutely right that Casey thinks like a child. She doesn't fell responsibility for what she does, and she thinks she is the center of the world. At her age, if she hasn't learned to think as an adult by now, I doubt she ever will. She's probably sitting in her jail cell right now trying to figure out what all the uproar is about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: pink angel on October 17, 2008, 12:32:00 PM
I realize there have been a few cases where the child was found alive after a year or several years, like Elizabeth Smart and the kid Sean that was kidnapped but the pizza guy in the midwest, but there was no DNA suggesting a dead body was in the trunk in those cases.  No one smelled a dead body smell.  The Anthonys are acting like there is absolutely no eveidence when there is.  I dont call DNA evidence circumstantial.  There has got to be someone in this world that can get them to wake up and smell the coffee.

I was thinking that too. I don't think there has ever been someone on trial for murdering someone with so evidence pointing to the victim being dead, where that "dead" person has suddenly showed up alive.

There sure need someone to help them see the light.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 12:32:35 PM
Thanks for the coffee and hugs! I needed that!
I say put Nancy Grace in the cell with her for 10 minutes and everyone go on a coffee break and come back later. They would find that child same day. I'll supply the banana bread and coffee for the officers, maybe rent a movie...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 12:33:12 PM
I was just reviewing NG transcripts and came across this quote..............


SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Between the hair and the air, this woman could get the chair.


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 12:36:39 PM
Susan Moss is the highlight of that show...she cracks me up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
KC probably wouldn't give a rat's pituty if her father committed suicide, which would break my heart. Her response would be Really? Can I go to the funeral? Can I get a new outfit? Can someone give some of that campho stuff to make me look like I'm crying? Can I blame this on the media?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're right Boo!  Casey cares about Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 12:37:01 PM
All righty then, I'm cold and pissy today too.  ::MonkeyTongue:: So here are a few things that tick me off:

Part of KC's charges against her were for lying to LE, why hasn't Cindy been charged? She's obviously lied too and attempted to conceal evidence to help her daughter. All these fricking tips pouring into her? Can we get the phone records on those?

George traveling to even SOME of these places where supposedly Caylee has been? When? We see him every day, when did he go? In between the court house and 7-11?

Look how many lives this girl has destroyed besides Caylee's. Her parents in all good probability will get divorced and will have a hard time seeking employment. Her father has already thought of suicide, her brother is keeping a low profile and NONE of her immediate family like aunts, uncles and cousins, etc. will even come close for fear of being associated with them. Her friends have had their pics and antics splashed across the internet and media. I don't condone what they did, but they are KIDS and are prone to do stupid stuff, but now thanks to KC everyone knows, including family and employers and future employers. People have lost their jobs in an economic time where employment is tough enough to find. Yeah I know she doesn't care, but it still pisses me off. I have often thought, can't someone just take her out back and beat the living crap out of her till she spills? I know, America, blah blah blah, but when I see the pics of Caylee, especially the later ones where she looks a bit more grown up, it makes me cry.

I need coffee and some hugs.


Howdy Boo!
i'm glad i'm not the only one who is cold and pissy!! Yesterday i was wearin shorts~today it is soooooooooooooooo cold :(..
i am so angry that Cindy hasn't been charged. And George-makes me sick.  i  take that back-the entire Anthony family makes me sick. I wouldn't trust them to care for my neighbors animals-let alone a littleone... ::MonkeyConfused::
~hugsss~ (sorry boo -i don't have any coffee-just sweet tea)  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 12:37:50 PM
I was just reviewing NG transcripts and came across this quote..............


SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Between the hair and the air, this woman could get the chair.


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Priceless!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 12:39:24 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 12:41:54 PM
I was just reviewing NG transcripts and came across this quote..............


SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Between the hair and the air, this woman could get the chair.


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Susan makes me a little krazy, but I can't help myself.....always waiting to hear her latest rhyme for the crime ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: le singe bete on October 17, 2008, 12:43:02 PM
I liked LuckyCharms' analysis yesterday of Casey. I think she's absolutely right that Casey thinks like a child. She doesn't fell responsibility for what she does, and she thinks she is the center of the world. At her age, if she hasn't learned to think as an adult by now, I doubt she ever will. She's probably sitting in her jail cell right now trying to figure out what all the uproar is about.
I agree with this also.  I think Casey is stunted emotionally and that's why Cindy and George have a hard time owning up to the truth when she is around and listening (maybe not so much in the grand jury).  She is like a child that they feel responsible for emotionally, because deep down they have always known she has problems.  I bet until the stealing went beyond their immediate family borders, they just always were able to minimize her behaviors.  But my guess is she is unable to contol her impulses and it's gotten worse over the years.  I bet LA has some major resentments in this regard.  He probably resents that his parents have minimized this throughout the years.  And now look at the mess she's caused his life even...

As enablers they do not want to hurt Casey or let Casey down.  They are the emotional baggage carriers.  Casey has made sure of this.  As much as Casey probably despised her parents, when all this went down, she depended on them to "save" her (from herself).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 12:44:43 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

after listening to him last night, I'm thinking they better start testing the water supply down there in Orlando ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 12:46:30 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

after listening to him last night, I'm thinking they better start testing the water supply down there in Orlando ::MonkeyConfused::

Good Afternoon, Monkeys....

I didn't catch NG last night... can someone give me a recap of what Rickard Grund said?

Thanks!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: AZSunny on October 17, 2008, 12:47:43 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 12:50:06 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.

It does look like that morgue..hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 12:51:49 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.

It does look like that morgue..hmmm

I tried to save it and enlarge it so I could try to read the sign, but I couldn't get it to open up after I had saved it.Can anyone else read the sign? TY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 17, 2008, 12:52:26 PM
Hi all,
   I asked this question yesterday, but can't find any answers.  Can someone tell me about the grate in Red's pictures?  Is this a common thing in Fl?  Is it some kind of sewer or drainage?  How deep is the water in it?  Anyone know anything?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 12:52:50 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.
I read on the fox orlando blog that was a detention center and something about a 12 yo that punched a teacher. Don't know if that is true.

It does look like that morgue..hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 12:53:30 PM
Hi all,
   I asked this question yesterday, but can't find any answers.  Can someone tell me about the grate in Red's pictures?  Is this a common thing in Fl?  Is it some kind of sewer or drainage?  How deep is the water in it?  Anyone know anything?


I don't have the answers to your questions, but I didn't want you to think you were being ignored. Howdy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 12:53:38 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.


It does look like that morgue..hmmm
I read on the fox orlando blog that was a detention center and something about a 12 yo that punched a teacher. Don't know if that is true. Screwed that post up, Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 12:54:07 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the building!  With all the signs it does look like a morgue?  Any notable deaths in Florida besides Caylee?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 12:56:41 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the building!  With all the signs it does look like a morgue?  Any notable deaths in Florida besides Caylee?

Lisa

When I first saw it this morning I thought it might be the jail or some bail bondsman area. Notice the cement poles in front of the door so no one can ram a car through. Also it doesn't really look like the door has a handle. Maybe they need to be buzzed in through an intercom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
Would a morgue have benches outside their doors?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bikerbev on October 17, 2008, 12:57:03 PM
I was starting to feel sorry for GA.  Watching his interview before he had to testify before the grand jury.  But after seeing inteviews of him since I've had a change of heart again.  There for a few minutes I thought he'd seen the light, but he is right back to where he was in his thinking.  I kept thinking last night while I was trying to go to see that if someone had my grandaughter I'd be in the nut house if I couldn't find her, yet the A's just keep repeating over and over that they are close to getting CA back; they sorta know who has her...well, why don't they get her?  Oh, and another thing that bothers me is they plead for the public to help them while they are doing nothing and it makes me wonder if they just assume CA is going to show up on their doorstep one day hand in hand with a good samaritan who just happened to find her and bring her home.  Weird.  That's just the feeling I get every time I watch one of their interviews.  Of all the years, probably since Adam Walsh's disappearance that I've watched families of missing children on tv I have never, ever seen a family do nothing to be an active participate in searching for their lost child.  I really thought George had more sense, but I don't think that's the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 12:59:30 PM
I was starting to feel sorry for GA.  Watching his interview before he had to testify before the grand jury.  But after seeing inteviews of him since I've had a change of heart again.  There for a few minutes I thought he'd seen the light, but he is right back to where he was in his thinking.  I kept thinking last night while I was trying to go to see that if someone had my grandaughter I'd be in the nut house if I couldn't find her, yet the A's just keep repeating over and over that they are close to getting CA back; they sorta know who has her...well, why don't they get her?  Oh, and another thing that bothers me is they plead for the public to help them while they are doing nothing and it makes me wonder if they just assume CA is going to show up on their doorstep one day hand in hand with a good samaritan who just happened to find her and bring her home.  Weird.  That's just the feeling I get every time I watch one of their interviews.  Of all the years, probably since Adam Walsh's disappearance that I've watched families of missing children on tv I have never, ever seen a family do nothing to be an active participate in searching for their lost child.  I really thought George had more sense, but I don't think that's the case.

I had the same thoughts about George.  I had hopes for him. ::MonkeyNoNo::  I am really beginning to suspect that the PI's are telling George and Cindy what they want to hear, because that means they keep getting paid.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 12:59:55 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 01:01:07 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I think you're smoking it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 01:02:46 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I think you're smoking it!
You know you love me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: monkey deep on October 17, 2008, 01:04:02 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

I have always felt something to be strange with that man. And while I do not believe him to be involved, I do understand where he is coming from when he said they all still loved Casey, because truthfully ... No matter how much I would want to hate someone for something like this happening, If they were family or like family, I know right from wrong and that the man up above holds me accountable for any hate I may harbor.  ( I want so badly to hate my own POS father but in all reality I cannot, So I somehow bury what he has done in the back of my mind) anyway point is  I do think he is crazy for thinking she is still alive with all the evidence but do not blame him for still showing some compassion if for no other reson this his son's feelings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.


It does look like that morgue..hmmm
I read on the fox orlando blog that was a detention center and something about a 12 yo that punched a teacher. Don't know if that is true. Screwed that post up, Sorry.


I emailed Fox to ask where it was.  Hopefully, if they're on their toes, we'll know for sure soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 17, 2008, 01:06:07 PM
Hi all,
   I asked this question yesterday, but can't find any answers.  Can someone tell me about the grate in Red's pictures?  Is this a common thing in Fl?  Is it some kind of sewer or drainage?  How deep is the water in it?  Anyone know anything?


I don't have the answers to your questions, but I didn't want you to think you were being ignored. Howdy.

Thanks, It is just one of the nagging questions that I can't get out of my mind.  Along with the fear that Caylee was moved multiple times and may be in multiple places.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

LMAO girl you are crazy ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

How are you with your fallish self today lol ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 01:07:42 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

LMAO girl you are crazy ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

How are you with your fallish self today lol ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Good thanks, and you???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 01:08:47 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

LMAO girl you are crazy ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

How are you with your fallish self today lol ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Good thanks, and you???

All the better for seeing you and your post's!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 01:09:39 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

LMAO girl you are crazy ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

How are you with your fallish self today lol ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Good thanks, and you???

All the better for seeing you and your post's!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

????

I have no idea what this is, but it looks like the morgue that was used for the death in Miami of the blond star.  Anna?  Dr. Boden did the autopsy and held a press conference in front of the building.  Do all morgues look alike?  Probably not.


It does look like that morgue..hmmm
I read on the fox orlando blog that was a detention center and something about a 12 yo that punched a teacher. Don't know if that is true. Screwed that post up, Sorry.


I emailed Fox to ask where it was.  Hopefully, if they're on their toes, we'll know for sure soon.
Thanks I didn't know if what I read was just a rumor. Sorry I screwed up the post. I am always doing that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 01:10:38 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 01:14:12 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 01:16:56 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!
Attorney - Client priviledge does not extend to witholding evidence of a CRIME. If Baez is AWARE of a "kidnapping" or "crime" being committed by someone -- he must REPORT it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 01:19:35 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!
I think jb is just blowing smoke up our butts..I geuss the Anthony's are teaching him a thing or two...I do not think that people calling saying they seen caylee is evidence and yes if they have apic of the nanny zg they should be forced to show it, In fact i really think they would have shown it except it is probly just a nameless hispanic person and if they show it on tv that person may come forward and tell us she is not zg..JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 01:20:16 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney privilege - BS)
He blatantly LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

LE made the decision based on Casey's lies quite early in the investigation that they would NOT release a composite drawing of ZG due to the fact that it could actually interfere with the investigation and quite possibly harm another innocent person ..... the public would be looking for this person and call in tips based on the drawing that was the figment of Casey's imagination.

BUT ... JB claims to have a REAL photo of ZG ... IMO he should be MADE to turn over this photo per the FBI ... if not .... HE should be arrested w/obstruction and hampering an investigation .... the prosecution definitely has the upper hand to "force" the defense to show their hand early by producing this photo ... but for some reason ... seem uninterested in doing so .... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 01:20:25 PM
I imagine this is the convo between George and the PI's:

PI:  "Mr. Anthony, we are getting real close to finding Caylee."

George:  "You are?"

PI:  "Yes, but in order for us to get her we are gonna need x amount of $."

The Anthony's are in total denial and I have no doubt that the PI's are taking advantage of them.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 01:20:28 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!
Attorney - Client priviledge does not extend to witholding evidence of a CRIME. If Baez is AWARE of a "kidnapping" or "crime" being committed by someone -- he must REPORT it.

IMO, Baez has nothing.  He likes to blow off to the media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 01:21:49 PM
Quote
Attorney - Client priviledge does not extend to witholding evidence of a CRIME. If Baez is AWARE of a "kidnapping" or "crime" being committed by someone -- he must REPORT it.
I should clarify to say a "crime" committed by another party. If he knows about someone kidnapping Caylee (other than Casey) -- he can't just stay quiet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 01:22:31 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!
Attorney - Client priviledge does not extend to witholding evidence of a CRIME. If Baez is AWARE of a "kidnapping" or "crime" being committed by someone -- he must REPORT it.
According to Todd Black it was reported but nobody believed her..I believe it was in the same interview he stated loss of life of a little girl..I could be wrong


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
Anyone up and know who the phone number 3633 belongs to?

Yes

Chris S.
Grammy - I am brain dead right now, who was he again?  God, she sure had a bunch of men.  More in one month than I dated in a lifetime!

He's the friend she went to visit at his parent's home on the 17th IIRC and she was driving Tony's jeep.  I think his last name is Stutz? 
Thanks - wonder if police interviewed him.  I don't recall seeing a statement from him, but she called him before and after her long delay near blanchard park on June 30.  Okay, going to bed for real this time.  Thanks again and btw - love your posts and the work you and KC put into all the calls and maps!!!!!!!!
I had this saved, don't know if it will help.
Ex-Boyfriend Stutz
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564652.pdf

Out for Bull - thank you, very helpful !!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 01:25:09 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney privilege - BS)
He blatantly LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

LE made the decision based on Casey's lies quite early in the investigation that they would NOT release a composite drawing of ZG due to the fact that it could actually interfere with the investigation and quite possibly harm another innocent person ..... the public would be looking for this person and call in tips based on the drawing that was the figment of Casey's imagination.

BUT ... JB claims to have a REAL photo of ZG ... IMO he should be MADE to turn over this photo per the FBI ... if not .... HE should be arrested w/obstruction and hampering an investigation .... the prosecution definitely has the upper hand to "force" the defense to show their hand early by producing this photo ... but for some reason ... seem uninterested in doing so .... 
Well i guess we will just have to wait till he calls this woman in the photo to testify


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 01:27:53 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney privilege - BS)
He blatantly LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

Can't LE make them turn over all of this evidence?  I am going crazy with you!!
Attorney - Client priviledge does not extend to witholding evidence of a CRIME. If Baez is AWARE of a "kidnapping" or "crime" being committed by someone -- he must REPORT it.

IMO, Baez has nothing.  He likes to blow off to the media.

I agree 100% ... BUT  I feel the charade has gone on long enuff and LE should call his bluff!  Put up or shut up!  Baez is worried about the protesters and Caseys safety ... then cut the bull ... his false claims is stirring up the media frenzy and IMO he should be made to stop this circus act .... He is NOT creating "reasonable" doubt ... the forensics PROVE differently ... he is only showing his OWN ignorance ... and how unqualified he is to represent this case!  He should be held ACCOUNTABLE for everything that comes out of his mouth!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 01:29:43 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html the other cam looks like Steve Doocy from Fox promoting another book


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 01:31:23 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html the other cam looks like Steve Doocy from Fox promoting another book

Steve is in Florida this weekend for his book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blaze on October 17, 2008, 01:41:47 PM
I am new to this forum, and have been following this story, since the beginning.  I don't believe Casey when she says she has no clue where Caylee is.  I do believe she killed her little two year old girl and I would like to believe it was an accident.  But I can't get past how confident Casey appears that we will not find the body.  It makes me truly think about where little Caylee's body can be or what she did with her body.  And why Casey is so confident (at least she appears to be), that a body will never be found.   

Because she appears so confident, it makes me wonder if we are not even close to where Caylee's body is. 

The dumpster has always bothered me.  I never really hear anyone communicate that the landfill(s) have been thoroughly searched.  Or maybe a landfill can't be thoroughly searched.  So upsetting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 01:42:24 PM


just want to comment on the 'dirt' in florida.  i live in nebraska, so found a post from long ago to have been very interesting and informative.  it seems the dirt in florida is more sandy than the dirt i'm used to here.  and that mixture of sand reportedly makes it more difficult to not only dig in, but to cover something up as well.  the more one digs down into it, the more sand just falls into the hole being dug, that kind of thing.  my bet is that if caylee has been buried, she's in a shallow grave, just because of the mix of sand with the dirt. 
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Thank You Wyks!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 01:43:26 PM
Ha! Ha!  ok ... you gotta check out the front page of Krause's site ... too funny  (sorry if posted before ... I wasn't on yesterday)

http://www.thedailybs.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 01:47:50 PM
I am new to this forum, and have been following this story, since the beginning.  I don't believe Casey when she says she has no clue where Caylee is.  I do believe she killed her little two year old girl and I would like to believe it was an accident.  But I can't get past how confident Casey appears that we will not find the body.  It makes me truly think about where little Caylee's body can be or what she did with her body.  And why Casey is so confident (at least she appears to be), that a body will never be found.   

Because she appears so confident, it makes me wonder if we are not even close to where Caylee's body is. 

The dumpster has always bothered me.  I never really hear anyone communicate that the landfill(s) have been thoroughly searched.  Or maybe a landfill can't be thoroughly searched.  So upsetting.

Welcome Blaze - I know the landfill was searched but I don't know how thoroughly. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 01:53:03 PM
I am new to this forum, and have been following this story, since the beginning.  I don't believe Casey when she says she has no clue where Caylee is.  I do believe she killed her little two year old girl and I would like to believe it was an accident.  But I can't get past how confident Casey appears that we will not find the body.  It makes me truly think about where little Caylee's body can be or what she did with her body.  And why Casey is so confident (at least she appears to be), that a body will never be found.   

Because she appears so confident, it makes me wonder if we are not even close to where Caylee's body is. 

The dumpster has always bothered me.  I never really hear anyone communicate that the landfill(s) have been thoroughly searched.  Or maybe a landfill can't be thoroughly searched.  So upsetting.

Hey Blaze ... WELCOME ..... a socio path always tells a bit of the truth in every story (lie) ... When she says she doesn't have a clue where Caylee is ... I kind of believe her ... In her minds eye ... if she threw her in a dumpster ... she doesn't really know where she is right know (cuz the garbage truck moved her)

I am stuck on the dumpster at SawGrass Apts however (maybe the only monkey that thinks so but thats ok ....   ::MonkeyWink:: )  Casey was emphatic when she said "That's the last place I saw her" ... "that's where I dropped her off" ....

After 31 days of a head start ... a landfill search would be next to impossible ... IMO  It would be way too dangerous for cadaver dogs ... (needles, broken glass, etc)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
Welcom Blaze!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 01:57:03 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 17, 2008, 01:57:48 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 02:00:38 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 02:02:02 PM
Peeking in for just a Min... Monkeys   :smt006

I found this and thought maybe our  Ping Map Monkeys could use it...

http://www.cellreception.com/

It appears that gives some addys of the Towers ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 02:06:59 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
The shower was on July 1st at Jesse's house from what I have read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 02:08:43 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 02:09:38 PM
If Baez has information that could make this entire case go away and have his client looking like Mother of the Year he would show it.  Can you imagine the clout he would have by proving OCSO totally wrong on everything that has happened?  Woo hoo!!  That would mean that Baez could be wealthy beyond his means in the end.  He would be doing more book tours and telling the story of Casey Anthony the mistreated and much maligned young mother that only wanted to find her missing daughter.  If he had the goods he would have already pulled the plug and let the cat out of the bag.  He's got nothing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jrzgrl on October 17, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
not sure if they have been released but was wondering if so is there a link to transcripts of GA 's interview by LE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Tony was out of town two weeks after the time that Casey is alleged to have killed Caylee (June 30-July 5, or thereabouts).  I have always thought that he panic of him not coming back to town was more along the lines of "I killed my kid for this guy and now he isn't even coming back to me???"



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 02:11:22 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)
That fax press release reminds me of Casey's faked work email Lee got off her computer. The ones that she sent to make it look like she had a job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 02:24:54 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

UNBELIEVABLE!  and the reference at the end to the media drinking "kool-aid" .... is a nanny nanny boo boo ... EXTREMELY IMMATURE especially in light of the fact that this was what Baez was ripping Mike Brooks for doing!

Trying to discredit CNN???  I have a feeling that that will come back to haunt this defense, many times over ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 02:25:30 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Tony was out of town two weeks after the time that Casey is alleged to have killed Caylee (June 30-July 5, or thereabouts).  I have always thought that he panic of him not coming back to town was more along the lines of "I killed my kid for this guy and now he isn't even coming back to me???"



Ahhhh!  I misread the date that Tony went to New York.  I still think Casey killed Caylee on purpose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 02:25:56 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Tony was out of town two weeks after the time that Casey is alleged to have killed Caylee (June 30-July 5, or thereabouts).  I have always thought that he panic of him not coming back to town was more along the lines of "I killed my kid for this guy and now he isn't even coming back to me???"


I also feel that she couldn't go with Amy and friends on the trip to Puerto Rico had an influence on her anger towards being "held back" by having a child to contend with.  She also had no money for the trip, but she texted to friends about the trip and how much fun she would have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Weeble on October 17, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)


Sounds to me like Cindy wrote it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 02:29:05 PM
The strangulation/hyoid bone theory was brought up on NG by Kobi either last week or the week before.

he's been working for the defense for more than a month - I wonder why he would say that? That doesn't sound too good when you are employed by the people you are making accusations / theories about.

I agree Rob...I have to go back to the NG transcripts to get a date as to when he said it.

I put them all here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:29:41 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Tony was out of town two weeks after the time that Casey is alleged to have killed Caylee (June 30-July 5, or thereabouts).  I have always thought that he panic of him not coming back to town was more along the lines of "I killed my kid for this guy and now he isn't even coming back to me???"



Ahhhh!  I misread the date that Tony went to New York.  I still think Casey killed Caylee on purpose.

I agree, sadly.
 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:32:05 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Tony was out of town two weeks after the time that Casey is alleged to have killed Caylee (June 30-July 5, or thereabouts).  I have always thought that he panic of him not coming back to town was more along the lines of "I killed my kid for this guy and now he isn't even coming back to me???"


I also feel that she couldn't go with Amy and friends on the trip to Puerto Rico had an influence on her anger towards being "held back" by having a child to contend with.  She also had no money for the trip, but she texted to friends about the trip and how much fun she would have.

Yeah, I read the texts, and maybe it is because we know what we know now, but I don't feel like she ever had any intention of going on that trip.  Not really sure why I feel that way, probably b/c she was so full of crap about everything else... but seriously... the girl had no job... was she planning on paying for the flight with her (mom's) JC Penney card?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: spanky on October 17, 2008, 02:33:04 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

Am I freaking going blind????? Do I see the email addy as "presscorpsmedia@aol.com"????? Wow..... such a professional release as well as a VERY professional email service. Sad sad sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 02:33:19 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 02:34:27 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

Then add this to the scenario, Caylee is crying and making a fuss about wanting to go back and be with her Grandmother! You think Caylee never raised her voice? She's 2 1/2, I bet she was crying her eyes out and KC had enough! I'm sure Caylee saw the fight between KC and Cindy and it scared her, she wanted to be with Cindy as KC is furious with her. I'm sure she smacked the hell out of her, Caylee can talk and will tell Cindy what she did, probably had bruises to back it up! Poor baby girl, someone was supposed to protect her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 02:34:53 PM
At first I believed Caylee died accidentally but after much thought ive changed my mind.  Casey was mad about her mother confronting her about stealing the money from the grandparents and Cindy always putting her down.  Im sure Cindy said something about taking Caylee away from her.  Tonys going out of town and remember she called and texted him over and over and she was mad when he was teasing her and said he wasnt coming back from New York. She felt like Caylee was in her way.  I think she took all this anger out on Caylee by maybe smacking her around and it got of control.  Maybe she pushed Caylee and Caylee hit her head or maybe she did drown her in the pool.  Then theres the chloroform.  I dont see it being an accident anymore.

It reminds me of Scott Peterson in the leading a double life sense.   Casey had two lives going on and one of those lives was getting her down and she decided to do away with it.  Unfortunately, she didn't think past the end of her nose so to speak.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Misha on October 17, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 02:39:50 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
6/30
Mon
10:00 am
(Because Tony Lazaro was out of town) Casey phones Jessie Grund and asks to use his shower. (According to written statement by Jessie Grund)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:42:12 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 02:45:38 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

OMG...CNN should sue them.....we all heard it...it was not edited.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 17, 2008, 02:46:21 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::
Hi Monkeys -
Doesn't JB's daughter do his press stuff ? 
I agree with an earlier poster - I wish LE would tell him to put up or shut up with this live Caylee crap!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 02:47:18 PM
If Baez has information that could make this entire case go away and have his client looking like Mother of the Year he would show it.  Can you imagine the clout he would have by proving OCSO totally wrong on everything that has happened?  Woo hoo!!  That would mean that Baez could be wealthy beyond his means in the end.  He would be doing more book tours and telling the story of Casey Anthony the mistreated and much maligned young mother that only wanted to find her missing daughter.  If he had the goods he would have already pulled the plug and let the cat out of the bag.  He's got nothing.

Exactly Lala
Where is this photo we heard all about that had all parties involved at the park?
If they had that Photo I would think it would be plastered on every news station from here
to end of world... they know they dont have crapola


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 02:48:42 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 02:50:26 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL


and married....... ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 17, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
6/30
Mon
10:00 am
(Because Tony Lazaro was out of town) Casey phones Jessie Grund and asks to use his shower. (According to written statement by Jessie Grund)

Hmm, thanks, so she was using Tony's Jeep but showering at Jessie's?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 02:52:03 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL

I'll lead!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Misha on October 17, 2008, 02:52:25 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

I hear ya!  But he's not in Nashville, is he?  The direct contact number is 407 - ORLANDO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:52:26 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL

Check me out, Curious Cat... I'm vicious... I'll bite you too...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 02:52:36 PM
Sue
Not only that, but the chance to discredit everyone and I do mean everyone in this case from the FBI...LE...TES...LP...and bloggers all over the world to NG would be one of the most incredible things that has happened in a long time.  The Anthony's and Baez would be wealthy beyond their wildest dreams should that happen and all of us would be eating crow for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  Remember how astounded everyone was when Elizabeth Smart was found?  You can't pay enough for that kind of publicity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 02:53:46 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL


and married....... ::MonkeyWaa::

Nothing wrong with looking.......eye candy....oooooolala!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Misha on October 17, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
If Baez has information that could make this entire case go away and have his client looking like Mother of the Year he would show it.  Can you imagine the clout he would have by proving OCSO totally wrong on everything that has happened?  Woo hoo!!  That would mean that Baez could be wealthy beyond his means in the end.  He would be doing more book tours and telling the story of Casey Anthony the mistreated and much maligned young mother that only wanted to find her missing daughter.  If he had the goods he would have already pulled the plug and let the cat out of the bag.  He's got nothing.

Exactly Lala
Where is this photo we heard all about that had all parties involved at the park?
If they had that Photo I would think it would be plastered on every news station from here
to end of world... they know they dont have crapola

What makes me think that they poured over all of the photos they had of Casey and Caylee until they found one with some random hispanic woman in the background? 

So many lives to ruin, so little time.....   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 02:57:15 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
6/30
Mon
10:00 am
(Because Tony Lazaro was out of town) Casey phones Jessie Grund and asks to use his shower. (According to written statement by Jessie Grund)

Hmm, thanks, so she was using Tony's Jeep but showering at Jessie's?


She also left the shower door open   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Sandcranelady on October 17, 2008, 02:57:18 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:58:10 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL


and married....... ::MonkeyWaa::

Nothing wrong with looking.......eye candy....oooooolala!

That's right.... I'm married too but that Mike G sure gets me moving on the treadmill in the afternoons... he has given me a renewed interest in the news!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Oh, I never knew that they had confirmed that they had found chloraform outside of the car trunk.  May I ask where this was announced?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 02:59:39 PM
Sue
Not only that, but the chance to discredit everyone and I do mean everyone in this case from the FBI...LE...TES...LP...and bloggers all over the world to NG would be one of the most incredible things that has happened in a long time.  The Anthony's and Baez would be wealthy beyond their wildest dreams should that happen and all of us would be eating crow for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  Remember how astounded everyone was when Elizabeth Smart was found?  You can't pay enough for that kind of publicity.

I remember the day they found Elizabeth.  I was so shocked and so thankful.  The way her parents handled everything while she was missing was amazing.  And there whole family supported them. Comparing that to George and Cindys behavior makes me nauseated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 03:00:47 PM
That's right.... I'm married too but that Mike G sure gets me moving on the treadmill in the afternoons... he has given me a renewed interest in the news!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 03:01:56 PM

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK guess we need to stand in line for Mike Galanos........he is HOT! LOL

Check me out, Curious Cat... I'm vicious... I'll bite you too...


LOL OMG toooooo funny! He is a hot Greek God!:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 03:03:28 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

If you right click the links, then choose bookmark and title it Transcripts and Media Reports you will have them at a click of the mouse.  Just a FYI - at least that is how I do it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 03:04:50 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:04:52 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Who the heck wrote this? Do these people have an Admin or are they still using grade school children to write their press releases? That remark about Caylee doesn't even fit into the sentence correctly. They probably had an outline of Thank you.... Toying with Casey but not in a good way (giggle).... say Life and Caylee in the same sentence (see we know what we are saying!)... Good Journalists... Mr. Black never said that.... Now someone fill in the rest and release it!

That has got to be one of the most unprofessional things I've seen so far! Come on, you got a new desk, now hire a real Administrative Assistant to do some work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 17, 2008, 03:06:40 PM
Blonde
I've been looking a numerous photos that you have assembled for us.  I notice some have been removed.  I don't really understand how photobucket works - ??
Anyway, I feel sure I have seen someone, and from looking a pic.'s today I think it is Sean Daly - the guy with a lot of tattoos, who was wearing a straw hat.  I could be wrong...do you have any recollection os seeing such a pic. or can you suggest where I might look further.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: TexasBarMom on October 17, 2008, 03:07:14 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

This guy is a complete joke.  Just wait until CNN's legal team drags him to court on libel charges.  Wow. 

He's going to invoke the wrath of KiahJane if he is trying to get my cutie Mike Galanos in trouble.  Seriously, I will wag my way all the way to Nashville and kick that Todd Black's misspelling, poor grammar ass.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Who the heck wrote this? Do these people have an Admin or are they still using grade school children to write their press releases? That remark about Caylee doesn't even fit into the sentence correctly. They probably had an outline of Thank you.... Toying with Casey but not in a good way (giggle).... say Life and Caylee in the same sentence (see we know what we are saying!)... Good Journalists... Mr. Black never said that.... Now someone fill in the rest and release it!

That has got to be one of the most unprofessional things I've seen so far! Come on, you got a new desk, now hire a real Administrative Assistant to do some work.
His daughter does his press releases.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
If Baez has information that could make this entire case go away and have his client looking like Mother of the Year he would show it.  Can you imagine the clout he would have by proving OCSO totally wrong on everything that has happened?  Woo hoo!!  That would mean that Baez could be wealthy beyond his means in the end.  He would be doing more book tours and telling the story of Casey Anthony the mistreated and much maligned young mother that only wanted to find her missing daughter.  If he had the goods he would have already pulled the plug and let the cat out of the bag.  He's got nothing.

Exactly Lala
Where is this photo we heard all about that had all parties involved at the park?
If they had that Photo I would think it would be plastered on every news station from here
to end of world... they know they dont have crapola

What makes me think that they poured over all of the photos they had of Casey and Caylee until they found one with some random hispanic woman in the background? 

So many lives to ruin, so little time.....   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Gee what are the chances of a Hispanic looking woman walking by in a photo? Hello...Swing a cat!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 03:08:17 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

Looks just like my husband ... in my dreams  ....

I like him because he stands up to people about this case firmly, but not rudely, and you can tell he's interested in the case and knows all about it, not just reading from a few notes some producer gave him or from the teleprompter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 03:08:31 PM

Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

So is this the latest Baez political move...I mean defensive move?  Looks like CNN has plenty of backup if they run out of toilet paper. 
This is very unprofessional, scattered, and someone needs to go back to Elementry English. 
I give this 2 thumbs way down boys... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 03:08:36 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I'm sweating and not on a treadmill..... :P


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:12:00 PM


anothermonkey ... as far as only the latest developments in the case are concerned ... the Florida media internet sites are a great resource for catching up at the end of the day.

I will attempt to make a compilation of them and ... their related links.  I will watch for your return and ... post them.
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet
9:00 AM



Janet, you're a sweetheart!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 03:12:36 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

 :smt117
 :smt055 :smt054 :smt049 :smt057 :smt007 :safe: :smt077


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:13:22 PM
I was just reviewing NG transcripts and came across this quote..............


SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Between the hair and the air, this woman could get the chair.


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

yes I'm behind again..  ::MonkeyTongue::

This woman is TOO much!! Is she really a lawyer? Did she used to be a stand-up comedian?? Her jokes are funnier than her voice, I must say.  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 03:15:41 PM
I was just reviewing NG transcripts and came across this quote..............


SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Between the hair and the air, this woman could get the chair.


 

yes I'm behind again..  ::MonkeyTongue::

This woman is TOO much!! Is she really a lawyer? Did she used to be a stand-up comedian?? Her jokes are funnier than her voice, I must say.  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyEek::

She's really awful, doncha think?  Her voice makes my hair stand straight on end.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 17, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
Anothermom - Hope your mtg. with your little one went well today.  Janet
will be off for a bit minding her grandkids - but I'm sure she'll come through for you when she returns.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blaze on October 17, 2008, 03:16:18 PM
Thank you all for your warm welcomes and responses.

The other thing that I find puzzling..
Why wouldn't Casey show the alledge picture of ZG, Caylee and herself at a park?  She would have all to gain and nothing to loose.  She could be vindicated in a lot of eyes. 

CA was quick to show the dress, why not a legitimate picture.  Saying, hey, here is your proof, this is the woman who took my granddaughter.  The A's, beg and keep saying they need help.  Well help us help you. 
 
Then perhaps people would think differently and seriously look for an alive Caylee and/or her kidnapper. 

That's why I can't wait for the trial, because that's when they all say it will come to light and make sense to everyone.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kristipartyof5 on October 17, 2008, 03:16:37 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney privilege - BS)
He blatantly LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...
The very idea that JB could have a picture of the kidnapper and not release it is ludicrous.  I thought this was all about finding Caylee.  I would also like to know why ther was never a sketch of the kidnapper from Casey if she was so positive of ZG exsistence.  This double speak has me going crazy. 

LE made the decision based on Casey's lies quite early in the investigation that they would NOT release a composite drawing of ZG due to the fact that it could actually interfere with the investigation and quite possibly harm another innocent person ..... the public would be looking for this person and call in tips based on the drawing that was the figment of Casey's imagination.

BUT ... JB claims to have a REAL photo of ZG ... IMO he should be MADE to turn over this photo per the FBI ... if not .... HE should be arrested w/obstruction and hampering an investigation .... the prosecution definitely has the upper hand to "force" the defense to show their hand early by producing this photo ... but for some reason ... seem uninterested in doing so .... 

Picture or not, Police cooperation or not, if they believerd that ZG existed then they should be paying to have their own composite drawing made up and distrubute it themselves! Why haven't they already done this, cause they know she doesn't exist!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Misha on October 17, 2008, 03:20:03 PM


anothermonkey ... as far as only the latest developments in the case are concerned ... the Florida media internet sites are a great resource for catching up at the end of the day.

I will attempt to make a compilation of them and ... their related links.  I will watch for your return and ... post them.
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet
9:00 AM



Janet, you're a sweetheart!

One good one to check that's updated pretty regularly is the Orlando Sentinel. 

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Misha on October 17, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
If Baez has information that could make this entire case go away and have his client looking like Mother of the Year he would show it.  Can you imagine the clout he would have by proving OCSO totally wrong on everything that has happened?  Woo hoo!!  That would mean that Baez could be wealthy beyond his means in the end.  He would be doing more book tours and telling the story of Casey Anthony the mistreated and much maligned young mother that only wanted to find her missing daughter.  If he had the goods he would have already pulled the plug and let the cat out of the bag.  He's got nothing.

Exactly Lala
Where is this photo we heard all about that had all parties involved at the park?
If they had that Photo I would think it would be plastered on every news station from here
to end of world... they know they dont have crapola

What makes me think that they poured over all of the photos they had of Casey and Caylee until they found one with some random hispanic woman in the background? 

So many lives to ruin, so little time.....   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Gee what are the chances of a Hispanic looking woman walking by in a photo? Hello...Swing a cat!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Better yet - Casey and Caylee facing the camera, ZG has her back to it!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kristipartyof5 on October 17, 2008, 03:22:53 PM
Thank you all for your warm welcomes and responses.

The other thing that I find puzzling..
Why wouldn't Casey show the alledge picture of ZG, Caylee and herself at a park?  She would have all to gain and nothing to loose.  She could be vindicated in a lot of eyes. 

CA was quick to show the dress, why not a legitimate picture.  Saying, hey, here is your proof, this is the woman who took my granddaughter.  The A's, beg and keep saying they need help.  Well help us help you. 
 
Then perhaps people would think differently and seriously look for an alive Caylee and/or her kidnapper. 

That's why I can't wait for the trial, because that's when they all say it will come to light and make sense to everyone.   
If they show us the picture now, then there will be time for the person they claim to be ZG to come forward and state her real name and explain that she doesn't know Casey or Caylee and just happened to be at the park with her own child the day the picture was taken. Then what would the defense have, nothing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 03:24:12 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

Looks just like my husband ... in my dreams  ....

I like him because he stands up to people about this case firmly, but not rudely, and you can tell he's interested in the case and knows all about it, not just reading from a few notes some producer gave him or from the teleprompter.



OOOOOhhhh Monkeys, I couldn't resist ::MonkeyNoNo::!
LOLLLLLLLLLLL

PJ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kristipartyof5 on October 17, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

 :smt117
 :smt055 :smt054 :smt049 :smt057 :smt007 :safe: :smt077
I haven't seen NG in 3 days.....I'm so behind, who is he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 03:29:35 PM
Any more information on the 2nd POI? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
I haven't seen NG in 3 days.....I'm so behind, who is he?

Mike Galanos, host of HNN in the afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: strayze on October 17, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Oh, I never knew that they had confirmed that they had found chloraform outside of the car trunk.  May I ask where this was announced?


Only TRACE levels of chloroform was found in the AIR of Casey's trunk.  This does NOT EQUATE to large levels, or of "pure" liquid chloroform contained in a bottle.  The chloroform was vaporized in in the air in trace amounts.

The trace levels of chloroform in an air sample has morphed and remorphed and morphed again and again. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 03:30:55 PM
Thank you all for your warm welcomes and responses.

The other thing that I find puzzling..
Why wouldn't Casey show the alledge picture of ZG, Caylee and herself at a park?  She would have all to gain and nothing to loose.  She could be vindicated in a lot of eyes. 

CA was quick to show the dress, why not a legitimate picture.  Saying, hey, here is your proof, this is the woman who took my granddaughter.  The A's, beg and keep saying they need help.  Well help us help you. 
 
Then perhaps people would think differently and seriously look for an alive Caylee and/or her kidnapper. 

That's why I can't wait for the trial, because that's when they all say it will come to light and make sense to everyone.   
If they show us the picture now, then there will be time for the person they claim to be ZG to come forward and state her real name and explain that she doesn't know Casey or Caylee and just happened to be at the park with her own child the day the picture was taken. Then what would the defense have, nothing!

So...
About this phantom pic of Zanny, Caylee & Crazy.... who is the person who allegedly took this photo and why have they not come forward yet?
Was it Jeff Hopkins?
One of the guys who pushed the car into the Amscott when Crazy ran out of gas?
Caylee's baby daddy?
Hm... I can't imagine why any of those people would not have turned that photo over to the police....

(btw, Kristin, that cutie pie in the photo you asked about is my future husband... Mike Galanos, anchor for CNN Headline News)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MuffyBee on October 17, 2008, 03:32:23 PM
Any more information on the 2nd POI? 

 :smt102  I dont' know Lala's.  But I know you've asked that question several times  over the past couple of days and don't want you to think you were being ignored.  I'd like to know too.  Was it decided maybe it was just the wording of the second indictment, or is there a 2nd POI?  Any monkey know?  TIA   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 03:32:39 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heathers on October 17, 2008, 03:34:50 PM
Ha! Ha!  ok ... you gotta check out the front page of Krause's site ... too funny  (sorry if posted before ... I wasn't on yesterday)

http://www.thedailybs.com/

omg hehehe ty i needed a goood laugh today ....btw afternoon monkeys  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 03:35:55 PM
(http://www.thedailybs.com/index_r1_c1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 17, 2008, 03:36:15 PM
Anyone else having trouble posting?  Every time I try to post, the board either freezes up or won't put the post through at all, gives me an error message.  Maybe that pic of Mike G heated my puter up... guess I'll log off and cool off for a while .... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 03:36:49 PM
(http://www.thedailybs.com/index_r1_c1.jpg)

darn the pic is too big!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:36:51 PM
Anothermom - Hope your mtg. with your little one went well today.  Janet
will be off for a bit minding her grandkids - but I'm sure she'll come through for you when she returns.

I hope they're not a handful like my kids.  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyWink::  I have no doubts she'll come through when she has time. She is great with providing information on the forum- as are a lot of fellow monkeys.  Let it be known that I appreciate all of the efforts here- those posting photos, maps, transcripts, you name it.   I may not always be able to contribute more than my opinions on SM, but I am so thankful that others can, and do.

(My son's been having a rough few weeks.  Let's just say I require a stiff drink and a looooooooong hot bubble bath  ::MonkeyTongue:: But thank you for your kind thoughts. :) )



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 03:37:17 PM
Any more information on the 2nd POI? 

 :smt102  I dont' know Lala's.  But I know you've asked that question several times  over the past couple of days and don't want you to think you were being ignored.  I'd like to know too.  Was it decided maybe it was just the wording of the second indictment, or is there a 2nd POI?  Any monkey know?  TIA   ::MonkeyCool::

I go back and forth on this.  People have made good arguments for each, no POI, or a second POI.  I think it is just the wording, or else someone else would have been arrested by now, b/c isn't that what an indictment is basically?  Permission to arrest someone on something specific?  My only other thought is that whatever they have in evidence, points to a 2nd person, and they haven't figured out who that person is yet.  Just my two cents...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 03:37:25 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 03:38:20 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Oh, I never knew that they had confirmed that they had found chloraform outside of the car trunk.  May I ask where this was announced?


Only TRACE levels of chloroform was found in the AIR of Casey's trunk.  This does NOT EQUATE to large levels, or of "pure" liquid chloroform contained in a bottle.  The chloroform was vaporized in in the air in trace amounts.

The trace levels of chloroform in an air sample has morphed and remorphed and morphed again and again. 


http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7368257&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Investigators find high levels of chloroform in Casey's trunk

Wednesday sources close to the investigation confirmed that 'significant levels' of chloroform were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire.

The Sunfire is the same car that was found abandoned at an AMSCOT by investigators that was later determined to have contained traces of human decomposition.

A computer seized as evidence from the Anthony home reveals that someone had been searching for information on chloroform and how to use it.

Chloroform was developed in the mid-1800s and was mainly used as an anesthetic. Inhaling chloroform vapors depresses the central nervous system of a patient, causing dizziness, fatigue and unconsciousness which allows a doctor to perform simple surgery or other otherwise painful operations.


http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html

Sources: Chloroform Found In Casey Anthony's Car

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Three sources close to the investigation into the case of missing toddler Caylee Anthony told WESH 2 that preliminary lab results show there was chloroform in mother Casey Anthony's car.

Chloroform is a chemical that was used years ago to sedate patients before surgery. A chemist told WESH 2 it is a fairly-hazardous material not readily available to consumers.

Sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high." They also told WESH 2 that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 3babiesmommy on October 17, 2008, 03:38:26 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blaze on October 17, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: CuriousCat on October 17, 2008, 03:40:26 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.

I heard that as well and he had his business card tacked on a bulletin board at the jail. How tacky can you get? I dont' expect anything else from him!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
They just can't shut up!

Baez spokesman says media misleading public on Casey Anthony case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-101708,0,668489.story


Do they really think we're that stupid?  This is another very unprofessional press release IMO:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/ToddBlackFax101708.jpg)

When I read this all I could imagine was that guy that was on Utube crying "Leave her alone" - I think he was a Brittany fan or something.  So far I haven't seen anything remotely professional coming out of TB's office. 

Klaas, you have some hotmail from me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 03:41:41 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.

Welcome 3babiesmommy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 03:41:42 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
Any more information on the 2nd POI? 

 :smt102  I dont' know Lala's.  But I know you've asked that question several times  over the past couple of days and don't want you to think you were being ignored.  I'd like to know too.  Was it decided maybe it was just the wording of the second indictment, or is there a 2nd POI?  Any monkey know?  TIA   ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks for answering me.  I was afraid I had missed it.  I can't always read every post even though I try.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 03:42:19 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.
Yet the inmate was still an inmate even after his services...um that would have said something to me right there!  LOL Casey is an idiot!

Welcome 3Babies.. I am going to have 2!  I look forward to your posts........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
thanks for asking goodnmad...

The chloroform being discovered in the area of the yard where the cadaver dogs hit, tells me that Casey or her accomplice, most likely Casey, poured the liquid chloroform in that area TO MASK THE SMELL - JUST LIKE THE CAR.

The chloroform was used to mask and not kill in my opinion - and - your thoughts?

I did ask stayze if chloroform would stay in soil or mulch to be picked up by analysis, but think they missed my post so I didn't see a reply, in previous posts on the subject stayze indicated that chloroform would evaporate unless it was confined to a closed area, I asked about the playhouse as they do have doors & windows that can be closed, they are not air tight but then again neither is a car trunk.

When we first learned of the chloroform it was in relation to it's use in cleaning or deceiving, but let's face it the use of this dangerous chemical is multifaceted, truth be told I think the skank is more capable of violence than accidental overdose on the innocent small child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 03:43:45 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.
Yet the inmate was still an inmate even after his services...um that would have said something to me right there!  LOL Casey is an idiot!

Welcome 3Babies.. I am going to have 2!  I look forward to your posts........
Perhaps he gives a discount for referrals to "repeat offenders"...

Hi 3babies!!! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 03:44:24 PM
Any more information on the 2nd POI? 

 :smt102  I dont' know Lala's.  But I know you've asked that question several times  over the past couple of days and don't want you to think you were being ignored.  I'd like to know too.  Was it decided maybe it was just the wording of the second indictment, or is there a 2nd POI?  Any monkey know?  TIA   ::MonkeyCool::

I go back and forth on this.  People have made good arguments for each, no POI, or a second POI.  I think it is just the wording, or else someone else would have been arrested by now, b/c isn't that what an indictment is basically?  Permission to arrest someone on something specific?  My only other thought is that whatever they have in evidence, points to a 2nd person, and they haven't figured out who that person is yet.  Just my two cents...


HMMMM. So could this be a "just in case" type thing should they find another person they are interested in or do they have a particular person in mind?  I suppose that is what I want to know at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: looking4answers on October 17, 2008, 03:45:49 PM
Anothermom - Hope your mtg. with your little one went well today.  Janet
will be off for a bit minding her grandkids - but I'm sure she'll come through for you when she returns.

I hope they're not a handful like my kids.  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyWink::  I have no doubts she'll come through when she has time. She is great with providing information on the forum- as are a lot of fellow monkeys.  Let it be known that I appreciate all of the efforts here- those posting photos, maps, transcripts, you name it.   I may not always be able to contribute more than my opinions on SM, but I am so thankful that others can, and do.

(My son's been having a rough few weeks.  Let's just say I require a stiff drink and a looooooooong hot bubble bath  ::MonkeyTongue:: But thank you for your kind thoughts. :) )



OT

do you live in florida?  I worked with Autistic children for 11 years, and if you are close by, I could probably give you a break for the day as I do respite care short term.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mammy on October 17, 2008, 03:46:05 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?

http://www.wesh.com/breakingnews/index.html

More Questions And Answers
October 17, 2008 - One Response
11:16 a.m. Friday: Catching up on your questions (and post comments if you have more):

/ Why did WESH.com remove the Casey Anthony commenting area? I posted this as a comment in another post — We did start a new forum, using software called Slanty. It is same one we used for debates. The problem was we only had rights to use it for debates and not for anything else, so we had to remove it and do not have the messages available anymore. The original Casey Anthony forum remains in place here, under News and is active. We are sorry for the change.

/ When will Casey be arraigned? The first-degree murder case is scheduled for arraignment at 8:45 a.m. on Oct. 28 before Judge Stan Stickland at the Orange County Courthouse. She also has a pretrial hearing scheduled for 9 a.m. on Nov. 5 on the child neglect and check fraud charges, also before Strickland.

/ When would the trial on the murder and other new charges start? In general, the state has 175 days to bring a felony charge to trial. Those can be waived, and there are some other legal wrinkles in the timing of when a trial must start.

/ Will prosecutors seek the death penalty? They have not said yet, but it is an option when someone is charged with first-degree murder.

/ Will the state continue on toward a trial on the child neglect and bank fraud charges? No one has said otherwise, and as mentioned above, Casey has a pretrial hearing on those charges in November.

/ Who has visited Casey in Orange County Jail? Her attorney Jose Baez visited on Wednesday and another attorney from Baez’ office, Gabriel Adam, visited last night. She has made no calls, as of this morning. Casey has limited her video visitations to her parents, Cindy and George, and her brother, Lee, but as of this morning, none has visited.

/ Has Judge Strickland ruled on the final motion? Here is our report from today’s upcoming noon news: “Casey’s lawyer, Jose Baez requested the state stop handling all forensic evidence. But the judge denied that motion. However he DID grant the defense team the right to be notified if any  testing takes place in the future.”

– John Cutter/WESH.com

I'm not sure regarding the camera.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
OMG LMAO!!!!!!!

That huge graphic on the Daily BS.. they're all a bunch of pictures put together to make one gigantic one.  I right-clicked on the bottom half of the page, to see how many there were.. this is what I got:

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/datgrlstef/index_r3_c2.jpg)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::    Casey Anthony: Enter at your own risk!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 03:49:33 PM
::MonkeyLaugh::    Casey Anthony: Enter at your own risk!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

oh.  now that is funny.
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 03:51:40 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They are both pretty easy on the eyes!  Of course nothing compares to my two favorite men!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/princess110473/097.jpg)

*Swoon*

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 03:52:40 PM

OT

do you live in florida?  I worked with Autistic children for 11 years, and if you are close by, I could probably give you a break for the day as I do respite care short term.


OH, that's so sweet of you! Although, I live in Ohio.  I must say that the respite workers we have had so far, have been just great.  It's hard being a parent to a child with Autism, so IMO I think it takes a special kind of person who is willing to take care of those kids for money. (So thank you!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 03:54:53 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They are both pretty easy on the eyes!  Of course nothing compares to my two favorite men!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/princess110473/097.jpg)

*Swoon*

Lisa

You are blessed with two very handsome men!!  Lucky lucky girl!!     ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 03:54:55 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They are both pretty easy on the eyes!  Of course nothing compares to my two favorite men!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/princess110473/097.jpg)

*Swoon*

Lisa
Ballpark in Arlington?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 03:56:08 PM

When I read this all I could imagine was that guy that was on Utube crying "Leave her alone" - I think he was a Brittany fan or something.  So far I haven't seen anything remotely professional coming out of TB's office. 

Klaas, you have some hotmail from me.

This is Chris Crocker - Bananajam is "borrowing" it for her avatar. I grabbed a youtube video and screen captured it when the Anthonys
were going crazy nightly.
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/LEAVETHEANTHONYSALONE1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They are both pretty easy on the eyes!  Of course nothing compares to my two favorite men!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/princess110473/097.jpg)

*Swoon*

Lisa


Lisa,

Your Boys are both very Handsome.  I won't say who my picture was but let me say that I think he was a tad jealous because he too used to be young LOLLLLLL.  There is no denying that a 31 year old son will have a daddy showing his own age though.

PJ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
There must be a book somewhere....."Talking in Anthony Code outside the Asylum walls" ::MonkeyConfused::

When the lips are moving REMEMBER 85% output is intentional LIES/SPIN to free a dangerous individual back onto our streets to reoffend & harm others, NOPE there is nothing sympathetic about a stance like that from anyone out of any kind of definition of love in my book.  It indicates to me a complete disregard for others, it isn't only the skank that has a personality disorder & anybody who takes a similiar stance due to the offender being their relative isn't worth considering & that includes my own Mother.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: katntx on October 17, 2008, 04:00:20 PM

OT

do you live in florida?  I worked with Autistic children for 11 years, and if you are close by, I could probably give you a break for the day as I do respite care short term.


OH, that's so sweet of you! Although, I live in Ohio.  I must say that the respite workers we have had so far, have been just great.  It's hard being a parent to a child with Autism, so IMO I think it takes a special kind of person who is willing to take care of those kids for money. (So thank you!!)

I hope therapy went well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 04:00:57 PM
Klaas, when you have time please check your hotmail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:01:07 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 04:01:37 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:02:33 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::
...and they play on "Summerish" grass!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 04:02:43 PM
Did HH ever come back last nite and give more info????  About the two guys you have in the pictures - too pretty, I like em a little rough around the edges.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't even know you had a picture of me.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 04:04:32 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::
Me too. I love that park except during the dead of summer. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KiahJ on October 17, 2008, 04:05:01 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Did you bust into our profiles and download pictures of us???

 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 04:05:03 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't even know you had a picture of me.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have quite a few pictures of you!!! When you went to the benefit and had too much too drink - remember that ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 04:06:47 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::


ouch.... way to speak volumes with a single question ! :)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 04:07:26 PM
Lake Vaj
 "come party with the best!!!!!!!!!!!"

Male
39 years old
ORLANDO, Florida
United States

Last Login: 10/12/2008
 
Mood: stalked   

 

Lake Vaj big ass party the 25th at lake vaj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



OK ... now we know why Casey was "crying" the other day during her presser .... She's gonna miss the party!
 
 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 04:07:55 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::
...and they play on "Summerish" grass!  ::MonkeyCool::
Is that what those big half naked men wrestle on????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 04:08:22 PM
Could Your Kid Grow Up to Be Casey Anthony?
No one raises a child to be a murderer, so how does it happen?




We all hope the best for our children. We nurture them and teach them to the best of our ability. Unfortunately, sometimes, things can go terribly wrong. Surely Cindy Anthony never dreamed her daughter Casey would one day be indicted for first degree murder.  And although Cindy continues to defend her daughter's innocence, telling "Today's" Meredith Vieira, "I know Caylee is alive," that blind optimism might be at the very root of Casey Anthony's problems. Her parents consistently bailed her out of trouble.

"Never letting your child face the consequences of their actions is setting a terrible example," says momlogic contributor Dr. Shannon Fox, "Casey's parents are not completely to blame for her missteps, but they most certainly contributed."

And Casey, apparently, learned by example.

"Casey displays classic sociopath tendencies; a lack of empathy, disregard of authority, lying and manipulating," says Dr. Fox. As any parent of a toddler knows, belief that the world revolves around them is standard behavior for this problem. "Eventually though," says Dr. Fox, "children grow out of that stage and learn empathy. Casey never learned."

In many ways 22-year-old Casey Anthony continues to behave like a rebellious teenager. "She's got that smug adolescent attitude of someone who's been called on her crap," observes Dr. Fox. Evidence of Casey's belief she is "untouchable" is clear in photos of Casey in high spirits, taken at a bar mere days after Caylee's alleged abduction or when she was recently caught on tape passing bad checks.

Could the Anthonys have foreseen the tragic fate of their daughter? Probably not. But there were most likely signs of trouble early on that could've been averted.

"In order to help Casey develop her empathetic skills," suggests Dr. Fox, "she might have benefited from volunteering at a soup kitchen, teaching children how to read -- anything that would make her aware of the needs and feelings of others."

Of course, not every child that disobeys or lies is destined to become a murderer -- only 1% of population are truly diagnosed as anti-social sociopaths, regardless, steps should be taken so children are aware of their actions and their impact on others.



If Casey had learned these valuable lessons, Caylee Anthony might be safe and sound at home.

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/10/sociopath_casey_anthony_caylee.php


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I'm SORRY Rob and Klaas (all other Monkeys as well) ::MonkeyEek::
I shouldn't added a family menber to the picture.  I will stay on tipic from now on.  Please forgive!!!

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 04:12:21 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Will this be a long list? Or a choice few?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 04:12:26 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't even know you had a picture of me.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have quite a few pictures of you!!! When you went to the benefit and had too much too drink - remember that ??

Nooooo....that was my sock monkey date who had too much to drink.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Muzzydog/BadMonkey.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 04:14:06 PM

I hope therapy went well!

Thanks, Kat.  I won't bore ya with how it went, but I appreciate you asking.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
I can't tell you all how DISGUSTED I was yesterday listening to Todd Black trying to gasp for air as he was choking on the words he spoke from the previous day regarding "the loss of life of this little girl" ... IMO SOMEBODY needs to take control of this circus and hold these attorneys AND their spokespeople accountable for what they DO KNOW ... IMO they need to be called into LE questioning (client/attorney priveledge - BS)
He blatently LIED saying that he did NOT say it ... cuz he did ... we all heard it!  It was NOT taken out of context!

IF there is a MISSING baby ... they have a "picture" and "tips" ... they should be MADE to turn them over to LE/FBI to pursue ... the photo of this woman (kidnapper) should immediately be released so that people can "look" for this baby .... <cough, cough>

IF this baby is dead and they know it (as TB has ADMITTED)... they should be MADE to admit that they know this and tell LE where she is so that she can be given a proper/dignified burial!  I believe w/TB's statement ... he has already abused his right to "secrecy and privacy" per the defense and should be questioned by LE ...

Agreed upon wholeheartedly.  There is something seriously wrong with a system that precludes an attorney TO DISCLOSE the location of a dead person to protect his/her client.  It's about time that profession is accountable, there is no reason that it could not be disclosed to the Chief Judge under the cloak of confidentiality, that's how a responsible Justice System would handle it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 04:19:32 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 17, 2008, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.

Yes, I just watched that video as well. Up until I saw that, I figured Cindy and George were just playing parts in a play called: "Let's Pretend Caylee is Alive."

After watching that video, I think he REALLY thinks she is alive. How could anyone think that?? Just amazing.

And, hello Monkeys, nice to see you all today!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 04:20:38 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I'm SORRY Rob and Klaas (all other Monkeys as well) ::MonkeyEek::
I shouldn't added a family menber to the picture.  I will stay on tipic from now on.  Please forgive!!!

PJ :flower:



LOLLLLLLL Can you tell I was nervous about being BAD???
Let me correct my previous post by saying...
I shouldn't HAVE added a family member to the picture.
I will stay on TOPIC from now on.

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 04:21:08 PM
Hi Monkeys ~ Good Friday afternoon :)

Was thinking and going through the one site Docstoc with the photos etc of Casey ...
The Cupid Singles Ad that Casey posted. I was curious about her Name she chose. Case035

So probably means nothing but some how my Monkey investigating mind found these things - with Case035

1. The First Season of The Twilight Zone
The 35th Show of Season One was Titled - " The Mighty Casey"
--------------------------------------------------------
The coach of a broken-down baseball team allows a robot named Casey to play on his team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls that cannot be hit. Eventually, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Casey's inventor gives him a heart to have him classified as human. Now that Casey has human emotions, he refuses to throw his fast balls anymore. He says that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter’s career by striking him out. With the team sure to fold soon, the coach and the scientist set off to create an entire pitching staff of Casey robots.
------------------
The Man who played " Casey" was in convicted of 2004 Murder 1st Degree at the * put in jail at the age of 75 sentenced to life  California = He capped a guy premeditated in public.
------------------------------------ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Then I took the 03 for March and 05 for year and googled Missing child Florida - WHY ? I was dame bamaged and so tired last night after all this week of .....monkey brain overload. I think my banana split.
Within a minute  any way Came Up March 2005 Missing - Body Never Found * Florida * God bless her little Soul *** I am sure many ppl on SM are familiar with Rilya. I have heard of her yet had not seen any new info on her. She is still Missing :(

Rilya Wilson - 4 yrs old Missing  - A four year old child is missing from a foster home for fifteen months. No one reports her missing. No one from Social Services notices she is missing. The foster "person" " Jane Doe" receives and continues to cash and spend the welfare checks sent each month for her care. Little Rilya Wilson has not be seen and is presumed dead at the hands of her foster "person".

The woman that they believe killed her never made a statement * just like Casey. Was said that she told another inmate * hearsay that she did kill Rilya.  But to Date her body has never found.

Claims were that Rilya was given to a Woman that has never yet to be found either.

The Woman/Monster is still in Jail - Dade County Thank God. She is in a Woman's Correctional facility
Her name is " Jane Doe" - YES, believe it or not.  I went and found to see if she was still Rotting behind bars. She is still there ...............

Jane Doe was given Rilya by her bio mother prior to 2000 due to her being drug addicted etc.  Believed to be Murdered in 2000 by Jane Doe.
2002 -Child family services somehow thru investigation found no trace of Rilya.
Rilya was never reported missing by Jane Doe and yet had not been seen since 2000.
snipped - http://www.socyberty.com/Sociology/Rilya-Wilson-One-Short-Life.172239/2

Fortunately there has been some retribution. Geralyn Graham her "caretaker" was charged with murder when she couldn't explain where the child was or why she didn't know where she was for fifteen months. The charges against her included three counts of aggravated child abuse, kidnapping and murder. A grand jury convened and it was determined that Rilya was suffocated or beaten to death in December of 2000.

The Florida authorities were unable to charge Pamela or Geralyn Graham in the little girl's disappearance. Their statement included these words,"We believe the individuals we arrested today are the best source we have right now to the whereabouts of Rilya," said Doyle Jourdan, Regional Director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Jane Doe " Geralyn" has over 45 Alias Names, Not only has she been Charged with Killing Rilya but Has lived a life of Fraud, Stealing etc ... and I am Mad because I can't find anywhere EXACTLY what her sentencing was handed down. She went in front of the Florida GJ and is in Dade County Correctional system. No Body Found to this day .........
It has many attributes that come to mind with Casey ..........

With All Week with Caylee in my Mind, and This Little Boy Cole .. and going back to Rilya
I am utterly speechless " How" these children have been treated by their own Families.






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 04:22:53 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: lula on October 17, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blaze on October 17, 2008, 04:23:50 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:26:10 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:27:52 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)

or Emily Latilla:

http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/emily.jpg


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:29:02 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)

or Emily Latilla:

(http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/emily.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:29:07 PM
Oh, Lord, he is saying that a single hair from a person's head plus a "few dead skin cells" can "start to smell."  So bad that you have to roll down all the windows, fellow?  Puh---leeze.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 04:30:52 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.

Hi Blaze, glad you could join us here. While your thoughts are beautiful for a loving and caring life for Caylee, the cold hard facts are that this little angel is gone. No loving family would knowingly keep her and allow her family and loved ones torn apart because of her absence. Caylee was loved by her grandparents, the pics show that, her mother, on the other hand, took that all away.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 04:31:30 PM
The the stalker cam live today in front of the Anthony house? Does anyone know? Thanks a bunch?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.

the problem I find with this is What will George Say in 2 weeks or a month when Caylee isnt home?
Will they still say they are steps away? what will be his excuse then ?
will we be any closer to caylee by then or finding her?
As time passes and there is NO Caylee how will this family manage?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:32:25 PM
It is hard to even listen this man..."It's always been about family"....even when you filed for divorce, George?  He said that she would be home by her third birthday.  Now, he is saying that the detective he hired already has what he needs and she will be home by the end of the month.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 17, 2008, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.

the problem I find with this is What will George Say in 2 weeks or a month when Caylee isnt home?
Will they still say they are steps away? what will be his excuse then ?
will we be any closer to caylee by then or finding her?
As time passes and there is NO Caylee how will this family manage?

The same thing they said when Caylee was not home for her birthday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:33:29 PM
Or Lisa Lubner:
(http://snltranscripts.jt.org/77/pics/77tnerds1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: can on October 17, 2008, 04:34:04 PM
Anothermom - Hope your mtg. with your little one went well today.  Janet
will be off for a bit minding her grandkids - but I'm sure she'll come through for you when she returns.

I hope they're not a handful like my kids.  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyWink::  I have no doubts she'll come through when she has time. She is great with providing information on the forum- as are a lot of fellow monkeys.  Let it be known that I appreciate all of the efforts here- those posting photos, maps, transcripts, you name it.   I may not always be able to contribute more than my opinions on SM, but I am so thankful that others can, and do.

(My son's been having a rough few weeks.  Let's just say I require a stiff drink and a looooooooong hot bubble bath  ::MonkeyTongue:: But thank you for your kind thoughts. :) )


I certainly agree with you regarding Janet and other impressive Monkeys.
Wish I had more computer savy.
Unfortunately loooooooong bubble baths are a rare thing for Mom's with young children ...(I remember it well) but maybe, just maybe you could manage that drink tonight. ::MonkeyHaHa::  Here's some Monkey  :smt060' and encouragement for you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 04:34:26 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.

The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:35:02 PM
This is a family of delusional nuts.  Sad but true.  I am sure his lawyer is about to jump off a cliff. 

If Caylee is found alive, I think the family will be charged with some kind of hideous hoax.  I really do. 

George is trying to make a career for himself as a child advocate. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 04:35:17 PM
Oh, Lord, he is saying that a single hair from a person's head plus a "few dead skin cells" can "start to smell."  So bad that you have to roll down all the windows, fellow?  Puh---leeze.
That would mean that all the hair in my hair brush would be smelling like dead squirrel??  I am with you Hudsunn...ridiculously grasping at straws.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 04:36:08 PM
It is hard to even listen this man..."It's always been about family"....even when you filed for divorce, George?  He said that she would be home by her third birthday.  Now, he is saying that the detective he hired already has what he needs and she will be home by the end of the month.   
Do you think that the Anthony's are being paid to keep this " Idea" going ... or are being instructed by Najame .. or something like that. To Keep THEM  Cindy & George in the Media to make and create " Doubt" for the general public. And or just to keep the Facination Brewing so that down the line they will make a Deal for a Movie ...book etc. I am thinking there are many that have Jumped on the Casey Wagon and are as we sit ... creating/writing a Book about Casey's Calculated Mind  ......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
Oh, Lord, he is saying that a single hair from a person's head plus a "few dead skin cells" can "start to smell."  So bad that you have to roll down all the windows, fellow?  Puh---leeze.

Don't forget Hudsunn ... the cadaver dogs "most likely" hit on Georges blood and sweat in the backyard from laying pavers too ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Western Observr on October 17, 2008, 04:37:50 PM
It is hard to even listen this man..."It's always been about family"....even when you filed for divorce, George?  He said that she would be home by her third birthday.  Now, he is saying that the detective he hired already has what he needs and she will be home by the end of the month.   
Do you think that the Anthony's are being paid to keep this " Idea" going ... or are being instructed by Najame .. or something like that. To Keep THEM  Cindy & George in the Media to make and create " Doubt" for the general public. And or just to keep the Facination Brewing so that down the line they will make a Deal for a Movie ...book etc. I am thinking there are many that have Jumped on the Casey Wagon and are as we sit ... creating/writing a Book about Casey's Calculated Mind  ......

Keeping a "reasonable doubt" is what it's all about now- that's all it takes to avoid conviction...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Brandi on October 17, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
It is hard to even listen this man..."It's always been about family"....even when you filed for divorce, George?  He said that she would be home by her third birthday.  Now, he is saying that the detective he hired already has what he needs and she will be home by the end of the month.   
Do you think that the Anthony's are being paid to keep this " Idea" going ... or are being instructed by Najame .. or something like that. To Keep THEM  Cindy & George in the Media to make and create " Doubt" for the general public. And or just to keep the Facination Brewing so that down the line they will make a Deal for a Movie ...book etc. I am thinking there are many that have Jumped on the Casey Wagon and are as we sit ... creating/writing a Book about Casey's Calculated Mind  ......

Well, I thought that until I saw that video today. Maybe George is a better actor that I ever imagined.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 04:38:20 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I wonder when they took down all the no trespassing signs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

Oh my Lord, I will bet you dollars to donuts they are talking to a psychic!!! Aura's around pictures? Two steps away? The people are being watched? She's in Orlando? OMG! A psychic got ahold of the Anthony's and are feeding them tips through their "visions"!!!  ::MonkeyEek:: They come out of the woodwork when something like this happens and one of them is telling them what they want to hear!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:40:23 PM
I don't think Najame wants George and Cindy saying anything at all.  George opened himself up to at least ten different accusations of lying, exaggerating and misrepresenting.  George is all about George now, and Cindy is all about Cindy now.  Caylee is just a way to get their mugs in the papers and on tv.  And a way to bring in donations from people who are way too gullible.

I loved it when he said, "I have been told that I am an inspiration."  Remember in the interview how he bragged about what a great security guard he is. 

They want to keep the idea of Caylee being alive out front so that the donations, if there still are any, will not dry up.  And since when does a "team of detectives" equal one guy named Dominick?

These people lie like other people breathe, if you ask me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 04:41:10 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 04:42:31 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

Oh my Lord, I will bet you dollars to donuts they are talking to a psychic!!! Aura's around pictures? Two steps away? The people are being watched? She's in Orlando? OMG! A psychic got ahold of the Anthony's and are feeding them tips through their "visions"!!!  ::MonkeyEek:: They come out of the woodwork when something like this happens and one of them is telling them what they want to hear!!!
Aura sounded a little funny to me to coming from George that is.  One of my roommates in college was big into reading up on psychics and the goddess..aura was in her vocab quite a bit.  If he is not talking to Miss Cleo he might be grasping at other religions?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 04:44:30 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips

IIRC they are tips being called into Cindy on her cell phone ... and they won't hand them over to LE b/c they will not investigate them cuz they have scientific proof that there is no reason to ... so the Anthony's have a PI investigating them for them ...

ANYONE KNOW .. KFN is not footing this bill for this PI are they? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 04:47:11 PM
Klaas, question - do you mind if I post images of all the women I think are hot?

just askin'  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mstam656 on October 17, 2008, 04:47:28 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)

or Emily Latilla:

(http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/emily.jpg)

I knew she reminded me of someone.... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldencrabby on October 17, 2008, 04:48:20 PM
Hi Monkeys ~ Good Friday afternoon :)

Was thinking and going through the one site Docstoc with the photos etc of Casey ...
The Cupid Singles Ad that Casey posted. I was curious about her Name she chose. Case035

So probably means nothing but some how my Monkey investigating mind found these things - with Case035

1. The First Season of The Twilight Zone
The 35th Show of Season One was Titled - " The Mighty Casey"
--------------------------------------------------------
The coach of a broken-down baseball team allows a robot named Casey to play on his team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls that cannot be hit. Eventually, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Casey's inventor gives him a heart to have him classified as human. Now that Casey has human emotions, he refuses to throw his fast balls anymore. He says that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter’s career by striking him out. With the team sure to fold soon, the coach and the scientist set off to create an entire pitching staff of Casey robots.
------------------
The Man who played " Casey" was in convicted of 2004 Murder 1st Degree at the * put in jail at the age of 75 sentenced to life  California = He capped a guy premeditated in public.
------------------------------------ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Then I took the 03 for March and 05 for year and googled Missing child Florida - WHY ? I was dame bamaged and so tired last night after all this week of .....monkey brain overload. I think my banana split.
Within a minute  any way Came Up March 2005 Missing - Body Never Found * Florida * God bless her little Soul *** I am sure many ppl on SM are familiar with Rilya. I have heard of her yet had not seen any new info on her. She is still Missing :(

Rilya Wilson - 4 yrs old Missing  - A four year old child is missing from a foster home for fifteen months. No one reports her missing. No one from Social Services notices she is missing. The foster "person" " Jane Doe" receives and continues to cash and spend the welfare checks sent each month for her care. Little Rilya Wilson has not be seen and is presumed dead at the hands of her foster "person".

The woman that they believe killed her never made a statement * just like Casey. Was said that she told another inmate * hearsay that she did kill Rilya.  But to Date her body has never found.

Claims were that Rilya was given to a Woman that has never yet to be found either.

The Woman/Monster is still in Jail - Dade County Thank God. She is in a Woman's Correctional facility
Her name is " Jane Doe" - YES, believe it or not.  I went and found to see if she was still Rotting behind bars. She is still there ...............

Jane Doe was given Rilya by her bio mother prior to 2000 due to her being drug addicted etc.  Believed to be Murdered in 2000 by Jane Doe.
2002 -Child family services somehow thru investigation found no trace of Rilya.
Rilya was never reported missing by Jane Doe and yet had not been seen since 2000.
snipped - http://www.socyberty.com/Sociology/Rilya-Wilson-One-Short-Life.172239/2

Fortunately there has been some retribution. Geralyn Graham her "caretaker" was charged with murder when she couldn't explain where the child was or why she didn't know where she was for fifteen months. The charges against her included three counts of aggravated child abuse, kidnapping and murder. A grand jury convened and it was determined that Rilya was suffocated or beaten to death in December of 2000.

The Florida authorities were unable to charge Pamela or Geralyn Graham in the little girl's disappearance. Their statement included these words,"We believe the individuals we arrested today are the best source we have right now to the whereabouts of Rilya," said Doyle Jourdan, Regional Director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Jane Doe " Geralyn" has over 45 Alias Names, Not only has she been Charged with Killing Rilya but Has lived a life of Fraud, Stealing etc ... and I am Mad because I can't find anywhere EXACTLY what her sentencing was handed down. She went in front of the Florida GJ and is in Dade County Correctional system. No Body Found to this day .........
It has many attributes that come to mind with Casey ..........

With All Week with Caylee in my Mind, and This Little Boy Cole .. and going back to Rilya
I am utterly speechless " How" these children have been treated by their own Families.


Thanks for posting this. Bringing forward in case it was missed. I find it extremely interesting.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sue on October 17, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips

IIRC they are tips being called into Cindy on her cell phone ... and they won't hand them over to LE b/c they will not investigate them cuz they have scientific proof that there is no reason to ... so the Anthony's have a PI investigating them for them ...

ANYONE KNOW .. KFN is not footing this bill for this PI are they? 

so we are to assume the PI is milking this for what it is worth  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 04:48:46 PM
Klaas, when you have time please check your hotmail.
Just a reminder  to all, I can't be here 24/7 even if I wanted to be. 

FL Grammy  - just checked my email and responded. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 04:49:11 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips

IIRC they are tips being called into Cindy on her cell phone ... and they won't hand them over to LE b/c they will not investigate them cuz they have scientific proof that there is no reason to ... so the Anthony's have a PI investigating them for them ...

ANYONE KNOW .. KFN is not footing this bill for this PI are they? 
We are just confused by the word "tips". They are not looking for "tips" on the whereabouts for Caylee -- they are looking for " $$ tips" to put in their family jar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:50:58 PM
This would be laughable if it were not so sad and involved a dead child.

Everyday people drop thousands of dead skin cells, so according to George the whole world should smell like the death mobile in his garage!

And every barber shop or beauty salon should just reek.

He is probably trying to spin reasonable doubt, but just how dumb does he think jurors are?  He needs to leave that to the lawyers.

And why would his sweet or blood smell like a cadaver?  His brain may be dead, but the rest of him is alive.

I think it is true that he may be resorting to psychic hocus pocus or maybe he and Cindy put their giant brains together and read a book on the paranormal. 

But he sounds downright nuts.

Najame needs to muzzle him and Cindy, too.  Now he is on record, for the second time, giving a date when the child will come home.  The first one was "She will be home by her birthday."  The second one is "She will be home by Halloween."

What happens when the end of the month comes and goes and she is still not home.  Will it change to, "She will be home to sit on my lap when I play Santa."

All the myths about their happy little clan.  It was not a happy little clan.  He filed for divorce.  The police were called there for loud verbal disturbances.  The kids made fun of him and Cindy in their emails.  Cindy described her own daughter as a sociopath and a pathological liar. 

This is the happy little family?

But mainly, Cindy and George are not on the same page with their spin.  She spoke the other day and said that Caylee had been spotted all over the country.  Now, he says Caylee is in ORLANDO.  The whole premise has been that Caylee was taken away.

Cindy said they had hired a team of detectives.  He mentions just one.

And that yarn about dead skin cells smelling like a cadaver is just downright hilarious.  Casey is an outrageous liar, and she tells lies that are insulting to people of even low intelligence, but so do her parents!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 04:51:26 PM
Klaas, when you have time please check your hotmail.
Just a reminder  to all, I can't be here 24/7 even if I wanted to be. 

FL Grammy  - just checked my email and responded. 

So, are you trying to tell us that you don't want your fingers to grow to the keyboard like that woman's hiney grew to the commode when she never moved from it?  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 04:52:50 PM
Your Welcome Crabby  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
Hi Monkeys ~ Good Friday afternoon :)

Was thinking and going through the one site Docstoc with the photos etc of Casey ...
The Cupid Singles Ad that Casey posted. I was curious about her Name she chose. Case035

So probably means nothing but some how my Monkey investigating mind found these things - with Case035

1. The First Season of The Twilight Zone
The 35th Show of Season One was Titled - " The Mighty Casey"
--------------------------------------------------------
The coach of a broken-down baseball team allows a robot named Casey to play on his team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls that cannot be hit. Eventually, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Casey's inventor gives him a heart to have him classified as human. Now that Casey has human emotions, he refuses to throw his fast balls anymore. He says that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter’s career by striking him out. With the team sure to fold soon, the coach and the scientist set off to create an entire pitching staff of Casey robots.
------------------
The Man who played " Casey" was in convicted of 2004 Murder 1st Degree at the * put in jail at the age of 75 sentenced to life  California = He capped a guy premeditated in public.
------------------------------------ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Then I took the 03 for March and 05 for year and googled Missing child Florida - WHY ? I was dame bamaged and so tired last night after all this week of .....monkey brain overload. I think my banana split.
Within a minute  any way Came Up March 2005 Missing - Body Never Found * Florida * God bless her little Soul *** I am sure many ppl on SM are familiar with Rilya. I have heard of her yet had not seen any new info on her. She is still Missing :(

Rilya Wilson - 4 yrs old Missing  - A four year old child is missing from a foster home for fifteen months. No one reports her missing. No one from Social Services notices she is missing. The foster "person" " Jane Doe" receives and continues to cash and spend the welfare checks sent each month for her care. Little Rilya Wilson has not be seen and is presumed dead at the hands of her foster "person".

The woman that they believe killed her never made a statement * just like Casey. Was said that she told another inmate * hearsay that she did kill Rilya.  But to Date her body has never found.

Claims were that Rilya was given to a Woman that has never yet to be found either.

The Woman/Monster is still in Jail - Dade County Thank God. She is in a Woman's Correctional facility
Her name is " Jane Doe" - YES, believe it or not.  I went and found to see if she was still Rotting behind bars. She is still there ...............

Jane Doe was given Rilya by her bio mother prior to 2000 due to her being drug addicted etc.  Believed to be Murdered in 2000 by Jane Doe.
2002 -Child family services somehow thru investigation found no trace of Rilya.
Rilya was never reported missing by Jane Doe and yet had not been seen since 2000.
snipped - http://www.socyberty.com/Sociology/Rilya-Wilson-One-Short-Life.172239/2

Fortunately there has been some retribution. Geralyn Graham her "caretaker" was charged with murder when she couldn't explain where the child was or why she didn't know where she was for fifteen months. The charges against her included three counts of aggravated child abuse, kidnapping and murder. A grand jury convened and it was determined that Rilya was suffocated or beaten to death in December of 2000.

The Florida authorities were unable to charge Pamela or Geralyn Graham in the little girl's disappearance. Their statement included these words,"We believe the individuals we arrested today are the best source we have right now to the whereabouts of Rilya," said Doyle Jourdan, Regional Director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Jane Doe " Geralyn" has over 45 Alias Names, Not only has she been Charged with Killing Rilya but Has lived a life of Fraud, Stealing etc ... and I am Mad because I can't find anywhere EXACTLY what her sentencing was handed down. She went in front of the Florida GJ and is in Dade County Correctional system. No Body Found to this day .........
It has many attributes that come to mind with Casey ..........

With All Week with Caylee in my Mind, and This Little Boy Cole .. and going back to Rilya
I am utterly speechless " How" these children have been treated by their own Families.







WOW!!!

The correlations are freaky.  It makes me wonder just how many times this sort of thing happens. ::MonkeyShocked::

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 04:55:19 PM
LOLLLLLLL Can you tell I was nervous about being BAD???
Let me correct my previous post by saying...
I shouldn't HAVE added a family member to the picture.
I will stay on TOPIC from now on.

PJ :flower:

PJ we're all bad from time to time. No worries.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 04:55:52 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Oh, I never knew that they had confirmed that they had found chloraform outside of the car trunk.  May I ask where this was announced?


Only TRACE levels of chloroform was found in the AIR of Casey's trunk.  This does NOT EQUATE to large levels, or of "pure" liquid chloroform contained in a bottle.  The chloroform was vaporized in in the air in trace amounts.

The trace levels of chloroform in an air sample has morphed and remorphed and morphed again and again. 


Where or how would such trace levels be found in the trunk of a car or in a backyard in soil or mulch (is that possible), do you have any theories on that aspect?  Am most interested & hope to see your addressing the question that I posed earlier to you when I get further on down the thread pages.  TYIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 04:57:25 PM
This would be laughable if it were not so sad and involved a dead child.

Everyday people drop thousands of dead skin cells, so according to George the whole world should smell like the death mobile in his garage!

And every barber shop or beauty salon should just reek.

He is probably trying to spin reasonable doubt, but just how dumb does he think jurors are?  He needs to leave that to the lawyers.

And why would his sweet or blood smell like a cadaver?  His brain may be dead, but the rest of him is alive.

I think it is true that he may be resorting to psychic hocus pocus or maybe he and Cindy put their giant brains together and read a book on the paranormal. 

But he sounds downright nuts.

Najame needs to muzzle him and Cindy, too.  Now he is on record, for the second time, giving a date when the child will come home.  The first one was "She will be home by her birthday."  The second one is "She will be home by Halloween."

What happens when the end of the month comes and goes and she is still not home.  Will it change to, "She will be home to sit on my lap when I play Santa."

All the myths about their happy little clan.  It was not a happy little clan.  He filed for divorce.  The police were called there for loud verbal disturbances.  The kids made fun of him and Cindy in their emails.  Cindy described her own daughter as a sociopath and a pathological liar. 

This is the happy little family?

But mainly, Cindy and George are not on the same page with their spin.  She spoke the other day and said that Caylee had been spotted all over the country.  Now, he says Caylee is in ORLANDO.  The whole premise has been that Caylee was taken away.

Cindy said they had hired a team of detectives.  He mentions just one.

And that yarn about dead skin cells smelling like a cadaver is just downright hilarious.  Casey is an outrageous liar, and she tells lies that are insulting to people of even low intelligence, but so do her parents!



You know ... at this point I am inclined to believe that by their repeated bizarre behavior that Cindy and George are purposely setting up Casey's defense ... perhaps out of guilt ... IMO they could be setting up a defense of  "Look ... she is crazy .... she lies ... this is how she was brought up .... it's our fault ..."  IMO it won't work ... but who knows what they are thinking ...  I'm sure none of Cindy and Georges media statements will be brought into real evidence but if they can "taint" the jury before it's picked ... they may think this behavior may work to their advantage ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
I wonder if George threw out his little theories to the grand jury.  "Now, let me tell you why I do not think Caylee is dead.  You know the bodily fluids found in the trunk?  Just some silly little ole stinkin' dead skin cells.  Don't you have to move every year or two because so many skin cells fall in your house that it becomes unliveable?  Sure, you do.  Now, a single hair can stink to high heaven when it decomposes in the trunk of a car.  At first, we thought it was a dead body.  Then a pizza.  But now we know it was just a hair from Caylee's head that stunk up the garage so bad.  As for the cadaver dogs hitting in the back yard, well, I sweat like a basketball player on steroids when I lay a paving stone.  And did I mention that I also cut myself and that blood undoubtedly decomposed---get it, decomposed like a dead body---and that confused those police mutts."  Finally, "I know Caylee is alive because I look at her pictures and they all have auras around them."

No wonder it took the grand jury just 30 minutes to decide to indict Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 05:00:41 PM
I don't think Najame wants George and Cindy saying anything at all.  George opened himself up to at least ten different accusations of lying, exaggerating and misrepresenting.  George is all about George now, and Cindy is all about Cindy now.  Caylee is just a way to get their mugs in the papers and on tv.  And a way to bring in donations from people who are way too gullible.

I loved it when he said, "I have been told that I am an inspiration."  Remember in the interview how he bragged about what a great security guard he is. 

They want to keep the idea of Caylee being alive out front so that the donations, if there still are any, will not dry up.  And since when does a "team of detectives" equal one guy named Dominick?

These people lie like other people breathe, if you ask me.

In my opinion - their campaign to "PROVE" Caylee is alive through misrepresentations and outright lies is back firing.

It's making more people take more notice of the liar liar pants on fire.

When you launch a media campaign to cast doubt - you better be sure you know what you are doing. And in the age of the internet it's not so easy anymore. Ask bankrupt Aruba.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 05:02:12 PM
AFTERNOON MONKEYS! 

HERE YOU GO LADIES....FRESH MEAT!

(http://www.sirius.com/wo/i/cnn-headline/Mike-Galanos.jpg)

I think he is much better looking than that pic. huba huba :)

Yep.  That pic does not do him justice!

Lisa

He isn't bad...lol!! I think Yuri Mellich is MUCH more handsome....and of course very married..! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They are both pretty easy on the eyes!  Of course nothing compares to my two favorite men!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/princess110473/097.jpg)

*Swoon*

Lisa

You are blessed with two very handsome men!!  Lucky lucky girl!!     ::MonkeyWink::

Aww, thanks!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

In my opinion, George is being fed a load of cr@p from this PI.  There are a lot of disreputable PI's out there and this particular one has had some complaints.  I also think there are probably some sick people out there calling in false tips.

I was puzzled by the aura comment too. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mizjay on October 17, 2008, 05:04:47 PM
Listening to this family is almost painful,  something akin to nails on a chalkboard.  GA is probably  for the first time in his adult life being called an "inspiration". That coupled with the visions, auras and sure fire detective work has him dancing on the edge of reality.

Interesting that he brought up the reward money,  now  come on, if one of his sick daughters friends took Caylee (as a favor, to help CA carry out her fake kidnap plot, since she didn't have the $$ to go to PR) is he seriously believing that one of these kids all heading to the sea and sand would have contacts to drop off Caylee to a abductor clever enough to elude FBI and every other person hunting for this child. Somebody in that mix of characters would immediately turned that scenario in for that  reward.

COME ON, ANTHONYS, for just once look inward to your gene pool for answers

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 05:07:08 PM
It does not help Casey's defense to have her parents out saying stupid stuff like this.  I am sure Najame is going to have a long, harsh talk with Mr. George Anthony.  If Baez planned to say that Caylee had been spotted in Puerto Rico, for example, it will not help that George and his detective say she is still in Orlando.  In fact, the prosecution may be able to call the detective to the stand if they keep on harping about what the detective has discovered.  I don't think there is any law against having a detective testify.

By the same token, if people take George seriously and start to think Caylee will be home by the end of this money, as he said, and she is not home by then, where does that leave them?  They will feel duped. 

George is hurting his daughgter and so is Cindy, imo.  Lies and ridiculous stories never help. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 05:07:53 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::
Me too. I love that park except during the dead of summer. LOL

This will be my last O/T post.  I swear!  Yes, Ballpark at Arlington.  On a 103 degree day! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 05:10:27 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips
What is the Anthonys email address and I will send some tips about finding Caylee.  This whole "looking" stuff is about donations.  Always follow the money.. this family probably is struggleing to make ends meet and needs donations to just survive.  Is there any law out there that protects how donated monies are used?  this is above frustrating...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 05:10:32 PM
I understand large levels of Cloraform were found in Casey car trunk and also by the Swimming  pool at the Anthony's home. was it found anywhere else? 



Oh, I never knew that they had confirmed that they had found chloraform outside of the car trunk.  May I ask where this was announced?


Only TRACE levels of chloroform was found in the AIR of Casey's trunk.  This does NOT EQUATE to large levels, or of "pure" liquid chloroform contained in a bottle.  The chloroform was vaporized in in the air in trace amounts.

The trace levels of chloroform in an air sample has morphed and remorphed and morphed again and again. 


Where or how would such trace levels be found in the trunk of a car or in a backyard in soil or mulch (is that possible), do you have any theories on that aspect?  Am most interested & hope to see your addressing the question that I posed earlier to you when I get further on down the thread pages.  TYIA

Alturist - I *think* is was Padilla that said the chloroform was found in the yard also. That was earlier this week on NG after the indictment IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 05:11:56 PM
It does not help Casey's defense to have her parents out saying stupid stuff like this.  I am sure Najame is going to have a long, harsh talk with Mr. George Anthony.  If Baez planned to say that Caylee had been spotted in Puerto Rico, for example, it will not help that George and his detective say she is still in Orlando.  In fact, the prosecution may be able to call the detective to the stand if they keep on harping about what the detective has discovered.  I don't think there is any law against having a detective testify.

By the same token, if people take George seriously and start to think Caylee will be home by the end of this money, as he said, and she is not home by then, where does that leave them?  They will feel duped. 

George is hurting his daughgter and so is Cindy, imo.  Lies and ridiculous stories never help. 

Fruedian slip "end of this money",  do you think it's all about the money.   Sorry, you crack me up, you are so right on.  I wish you could replace Nancy Grace.  I'd love to see it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 05:12:42 PM
Russell Smith did a BRACE Character Profile on Casey Anthony. Pretty interesting...
Russell: Keeping in mind that this is pure speculation, the current findings certainly indicate that Casey is lying, and the current evidence as reported by LE indicates that Caylee is dead. We know that Casey engaged in high risk behaviors (e.g., alcohol and other substance abuse) and that she exposed Caylee to related high risk situations, such as allowing her to sleep in the same bed as she and her boyfriend(s). We also know that Casey is an exceptionally self-centered person who would be jealous of losing any attention to Caylee and who would begrudge the time and attention she had to provide Caylee. Unfortunately, I can imagine quite a few scenarios based on these general factors. Actually, until LE reported evidence of Caylee's death, I suspected an elaborate hoax by the Anthony family to defraud the public for monetary gains. I am still not convinced that it is not such a hoax that somehow got out of hand. For example, perhaps a staged kidnapping went bad when Casey got drunk and left Caylee in the trunk too long. Perhaps Casey simply left Caylee in a hot car too long while partying or passed-out. Given Casey's lifestyle and Caylee's exposure to it, I have no doubt that Caylee attracted the attention of pedophiles. There are any number of scenarios in which Caylee could have died at the hands of one or more pedophiles, and some related speculations will not be detailed here. Of course, there are some rather strange family dynamics that could lead most anywhere. Finally, given Casey's remarkably poor judgment and the level of self-centered anger she expressed in some of her phone calls, Caylee's death may have been a matter of a drunken Casey going into a narcissistic rage or simply deciding to make her own life easier.

http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/140/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Stacey on October 17, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
Hello to all monkeys

Does anyone know what LP said last night on Dana or a link so I can listen or read
Thanks so much
monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 05:13:22 PM
A simple, "I still hope that my granddaughter is alive and I will continue to look for her," would be best, if they want to get that message out.

The more they embellish and exaggerate, the more damage they do.

I am appalled at their stupidity.  They must not listen to their attorneys at all. 

The P.I. may, as someone said, be padding his pockets by giving them false hopes, but their lawyers surely are telling them the truth. 

Many people phone in tips just for the heck of it.  Some do it out of pure mischief.  Others want to be involved somehow.  The only good tip is one that is specific and that says exactly where the child is at a given time.  Otherwise, it is just rumor.

But the idea that a man traveling with Caylee would let her announce her full name and talk to strangers is ludicrous.  Why would any kidnapper do that?

Also, George cannot promise that a kidnapper who returned Caylee now would get a reward or be let off scot-free.  If someone brings Caylee in now, that person has a lot of explaining to do.  The police will definitely want to spend some time with him or her.  It is all such a silly ruse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 05:21:36 PM
LOL "End of the month" versus "end of the money."  Hmmm I think with George and Cindy it is more about the attention and the "fame" than the money.  Oh, I am sure they would like to get rich, but they love the limelight.  Something happens to some people when the camera is focused on them, and Cindy especially soaked it up like a sponge. 

I think George saying that he is "an inspiration to some people" indicates that he feels important and that he wants to be the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas.  He bragged about himself to the police, too, so much that they said, I think in a sarcastic way, "I bet you are good at a lot of things, George."

I almost feel sorry for him sometimes. 

Cindy is the same way.  She wants to be a big influence of some type.  She talked the other day about "We should think about this and be very careful" and all that.  And she never cried or choked up when she mentioned Caylee.

In a way, this situation, I think, has brought them all together.  I think they were a very distant, argumentative, volatile, angry family, with one constantly pitted against the other.  Now with this tragedy, they are all trying to unite.

Money is part of it, but fame and recognition are more important to them, imo.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 05:23:03 PM
Russell Smith did a BRACE Character Profile on Casey Anthony. Pretty interesting...
Russell: Keeping in mind that this is pure speculation, the current findings certainly indicate that Casey is lying, and the current evidence as reported by LE indicates that Caylee is dead. We know that Casey engaged in high risk behaviors (e.g., alcohol and other substance abuse) and that she exposed Caylee to related high risk situations, such as allowing her to sleep in the same bed as she and her boyfriend(s). We also know that Casey is an exceptionally self-centered person who would be jealous of losing any attention to Caylee and who would begrudge the time and attention she had to provide Caylee. Unfortunately, I can imagine quite a few scenarios based on these general factors. Actually, until LE reported evidence of Caylee's death, I suspected an elaborate hoax by the Anthony family to defraud the public for monetary gains. I am still not convinced that it is not such a hoax that somehow got out of hand. For example, perhaps a staged kidnapping went bad when Casey got drunk and left Caylee in the trunk too long. Perhaps Casey simply left Caylee in a hot car too long while partying or passed-out. Given Casey's lifestyle and Caylee's exposure to it, I have no doubt that Caylee attracted the attention of pedophiles. There are any number of scenarios in which Caylee could have died at the hands of one or more pedophiles, and some related speculations will not be detailed here. Of course, there are some rather strange family dynamics that could lead most anywhere. Finally, given Casey's remarkably poor judgment and the level of self-centered anger she expressed in some of her phone calls, Caylee's death may have been a matter of a drunken Casey going into a narcissistic rage or simply deciding to make her own life easier.

http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/140/
::MonkeyShocked:: WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: marymary on October 17, 2008, 05:23:28 PM
A simple, "I still hope that my granddaughter is alive and I will continue to look for her," would be best, if they want to get that message out.

The more they embellish and exaggerate, the more damage they do.

I am appalled at their stupidity.  They must not listen to their attorneys at all. 

The P.I. may, as someone said, be padding his pockets by giving them false hopes, but their lawyers surely are telling them the truth. 

Many people phone in tips just for the heck of it.  Some do it out of pure mischief.  Others want to be involved somehow.  The only good tip is one that is specific and that says exactly where the child is at a given time.  Otherwise, it is just rumor.

But the idea that a man traveling with Caylee would let her announce her full name and talk to strangers is ludicrous.  Why would any kidnapper do that?

Also, George cannot promise that a kidnapper who returned Caylee now would get a reward or be let off scot-free.  If someone brings Caylee in now, that person has a lot of explaining to do.  The police will definitely want to spend some time with him or her.  It is all such a silly ruse.
I could read your posts all day.  You put the Anthony's irrationality in such a clear perspective that it makes me LMAO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 05:25:23 PM
A simple, "I still hope that my granddaughter is alive and I will continue to look for her," would be best, if they want to get that message out.

The more they embellish and exaggerate, the more damage they do.

I am appalled at their stupidity.  They must not listen to their attorneys at all. 

The P.I. may, as someone said, be padding his pockets by giving them false hopes, but their lawyers surely are telling them the truth. 

Many people phone in tips just for the heck of it.  Some do it out of pure mischief.  Others want to be involved somehow.  The only good tip is one that is specific and that says exactly where the child is at a given time.  Otherwise, it is just rumor.

But the idea that a man traveling with Caylee would let her announce her full name and talk to strangers is ludicrous.  Why would any kidnapper do that?

Also, George cannot promise that a kidnapper who returned Caylee now would get a reward or be let off scot-free.  If someone brings Caylee in now, that person has a lot of explaining to do.  The police will definitely want to spend some time with him or her.  It is all such a silly ruse.

If Nejame were smart, he would drop the Anthony's like a hot potato!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
I wrote weeks ago, before the forensic evidence came back, that I could imagine Casey giving the child away or kind of "misplacing her" for a while or even abandoning her in some remote place and just driving away.  Casey could have left her at someone's apartment or in a car while she partied, and the child could have gotten out and been picked up by a stranger.  BUT someone was dead in Casey's car trunk, if the forensics are correct.  Pizza, dead skin cells, a stray hair, do not produce a smell so horrific that George had to drive all the way home from the impound lot with all the windows down.  Nor do they produce a smell that cadaver dogs hit on or that Lee described as "coming at you like a wave."

Casey is still alive.  So are her friends and family.  But Caylee is nowhere to be found.  If anyone is dead, it must be Caylee, because all the others who have been in that car are still with us.

That fact cannot be avoided.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: flamom on October 17, 2008, 05:29:34 PM
The the stalker cam live today in front of the Anthony house? Does anyone know? Thanks a bunch?

and all of the crime scene tape is down
I love you Monkeys but it took way too long to catch up today due to all the OT stuff ::MonkeyConfused::
Please dont throw nanner peels at me   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 05:29:46 PM
IF (--a tremendous IF ) Caylee was being held by nefariois characters -- don't you think the FBI would be working behind the scenes to get her back?? I don't see that happening at all -- in fact, the FBI testified AGAINST Casey at her Grand Jury hearing. The FBI does not play "games" by allowing a person to go to jail just to mask their "secret" doings! It's ludicrous!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Walter819 on October 17, 2008, 05:30:58 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 05:31:13 PM
Hello to all monkeys

Does anyone know what LP said last night on Dana or a link so I can listen or read
Thanks so much
monkey hugs

KIMBER transcribed what LP said on Dana Pretzer last night.  Thanks to Kimber!


Quote
Dana's show is now on podcast, trying to see what LP said.

He's talking about KC ordering pizza at Tony's house and then instead of putting the leftovers in the trash, she put it in her car to mask odor of decomp. Bag rolls around in trunk and gets DNA on outside of bag. Bag thrown away at tow yard. LE recovers it. Still listening.

LP getting in touch with people to get donations for Tim Miller. (Russell Fabish, bail bondsman-Linda Braswell PBUS-Bob Sable) He said whenever Tim gets ready to go.

He's talking about when he bailed her out, he thought she just took Caylee to get her away from the house. Then when the DNA results came back, Lp and Rob thought what have we done?

He's talking about Todd Black admitting the child is dead. Now they are trying to backtrack. Trying to blame it on the media. Todd didn't mean to say that, but he said what he thought, The child is dead.

He wants the people in his industry to get involved and support Tim Miller and sometime in November he hopes they spring 2000 volenteers a mile long, walk across that part of Florida and find the child's remains!

 wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 05:32:18 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 05:36:59 PM
(http://www.thedailybs.com/index_r1_c1.jpg)

Who runs this site anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 05:38:46 PM
IF (--a tremendous IF ) Caylee was being held by nefariois characters -- don't you think the FBI would be working behind the scenes to get her back?? I don't see that happening at all -- in fact, the FBI testified AGAINST Casey at her Grand Jury hearing. The FBI does not play "games" by allowing a person to go to jail just to mask their "secret" doings! It's ludicrous!!

There are people out there believing that Casey is being "framed" and that the OCSD doesn't really want to find Caylee, blah, blah, blah.  You only need to look at the Caylee Is Missing Myspace page.  These are probably people that buy into all kinds of conspiracy theories and fortunately there aren't too many of them. 

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 05:39:02 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 05:40:22 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 05:41:02 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
The shower was on July 1st at Jesse's house from what I have read.
Here is the map for July 1st - sorry if it's already been posted -

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.553917~-81.170983&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916676&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!161&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.553917~-81.170983&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916676&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!161&encType=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 05:42:15 PM
This would be laughable if it were not so sad and involved a dead child.

Everyday people drop thousands of dead skin cells, so according to George the whole world should smell like the death mobile in his garage!

And every barber shop or beauty salon should just reek.

He is probably trying to spin reasonable doubt, but just how dumb does he think jurors are?  He needs to leave that to the lawyers.

And why would his sweet or blood smell like a cadaver?  His brain may be dead, but the rest of him is alive.

I think it is true that he may be resorting to psychic hocus pocus or maybe he and Cindy put their giant brains together and read a book on the paranormal. 

But he sounds downright nuts.

Najame needs to muzzle him and Cindy, too.  Now he is on record, for the second time, giving a date when the child will come home.  The first one was "She will be home by her birthday."  The second one is "She will be home by Halloween."

What happens when the end of the month comes and goes and she is still not home.  Will it change to, "She will be home to sit on my lap when I play Santa."

All the myths about their happy little clan.  It was not a happy little clan.  He filed for divorce.  The police were called there for loud verbal disturbances.  The kids made fun of him and Cindy in their emails.  Cindy described her own daughter as a sociopath and a pathological liar. 

This is the happy little family?

But mainly, Cindy and George are not on the same page with their spin.  She spoke the other day and said that Caylee had been spotted all over the country.  Now, he says Caylee is in ORLANDO.  The whole premise has been that Caylee was taken away.

Cindy said they had hired a team of detectives.  He mentions just one.

And that yarn about dead skin cells smelling like a cadaver is just downright hilarious.  Casey is an outrageous liar, and she tells lies that are insulting to people of even low intelligence, but so do her parents!

It  is  the  perpetration  of  FRAUD  on  the  Public  At  Large  in  order  to  gain  financial  support. 

I bet you there are decent people giving these phonies their money that they can't even afford to give, they are sacrificing, all the while these subhumans are laughing at them & calling them suckers behind closed doors, written on yellow legal pads.

IMO, it is very similar in nature to the Executives of Enron behavior when they were uttering outright lies to enhance the value of the company stock as they liquidated their personally owned shares to get a better price, bringing the company down & ruining thousands of people's lives all to benefit a few greedy liars. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KCJackie on October 17, 2008, 05:42:17 PM
Peeking in for just a Min... Monkeys   :smt006

I found this and thought maybe our  Ping Map Monkeys could use it...

http://www.cellreception.com/

It appears that gives some addys of the Towers ??

TY -  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 05:43:09 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Stacey on October 17, 2008, 05:43:21 PM
Hello to all monkeys

Does anyone know what LP said last night on Dana or a link so I can listen or read
Thanks so much
monkey hugs

KIMBER transcribed what LP said on Dana Pretzer last night.  Thanks to Kimber!


Quote
Dana's show is now on podcast, trying to see what LP said.

He's talking about KC ordering pizza at Tony's house and then instead of putting the leftovers in the trash, she put it in her car to mask odor of decomp. Bag rolls around in trunk and gets DNA on outside of bag. Bag thrown away at tow yard. LE recovers it. Still listening.

LP getting in touch with people to get donations for Tim Miller. (Russell Fabish, bail bondsman-Linda Braswell PBUS-Bob Sable) He said whenever Tim gets ready to go.

He's talking about when he bailed her out, he thought she just took Caylee to get her away from the house. Then when the DNA results came back, Lp and Rob thought what have we done?

He's talking about Todd Black admitting the child is dead. Now they are trying to backtrack. Trying to blame it on the media. Todd didn't mean to say that, but he said what he thought, The child is dead.

He wants the people in his industry to get involved and support Tim Miller and sometime in November he hopes they spring 2000 volenteers a mile long, walk across that part of Florida and find the child's remains!

 wish I lived in Florida, I would certainly go help. I just hope and pray everyday that they find her and she can be laid to rest. The thoghts of her out there just breaks my heart!!
Goodnight all!!


Thanks so much Klaas and Kimber


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lala'sMom on October 17, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
I was under the impression that Channel 9 in Orlando first brought up the subject of chloroform in the soil samples from the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 05:48:53 PM
http://www.winknews.com/news/local/31185034.html

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - The mother of a missing 3-year-old Florida girl has entered a plea of not guilty to charges that she killed her daughter.

Twenty-two year-old Casey Anthony entered the not-guilty plea Friday, three days after a grand jury indicted her on charges of first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee.

Casey Anthony has told authorities that she left her daughter with a baby sitter in June, and that the two were gone when she returned from work. She says she spent the next month trying to find her daughter and didn't call authorities because she was scared.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 05:49:13 PM
The Anthony's Myspace was just updated with this!

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

That's all that was in the blog, just this link!!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?

http://www.wesh.com/breakingnews/index.html

More Questions And Answers
October 17, 2008 - One Response
11:16 a.m. Friday: Catching up on your questions (and post comments if you have more):

/ Why did WESH.com remove the Casey Anthony commenting area? I posted this as a comment in another post — We did start a new forum, using software called Slanty. It is same one we used for debates. The problem was we only had rights to use it for debates and not for anything else, so we had to remove it and do not have the messages available anymore. The original Casey Anthony forum remains in place here, under News and is active. We are sorry for the change.

/ When will Casey be arraigned? The first-degree murder case is scheduled for arraignment at 8:45 a.m. on Oct. 28 before Judge Stan Stickland at the Orange County Courthouse. She also has a pretrial hearing scheduled for 9 a.m. on Nov. 5 on the child neglect and check fraud charges, also before Strickland.

/ When would the trial on the murder and other new charges start? In general, the state has 175 days to bring a felony charge to trial. Those can be waived, and there are some other legal wrinkles in the timing of when a trial must start.

/ Will prosecutors seek the death penalty? They have not said yet, but it is an option when someone is charged with first-degree murder.

/ Will the state continue on toward a trial on the child neglect and bank fraud charges? No one has said otherwise, and as mentioned above, Casey has a pretrial hearing on those charges in November.

/ Who has visited Casey in Orange County Jail? Her attorney Jose Baez visited on Wednesday and another attorney from Baez’ office, Gabriel Adam, visited last night. She has made no calls, as of this morning. Casey has limited her video visitations to her parents, Cindy and George, and her brother, Lee, but as of this morning, none has visited.

/ Has Judge Strickland ruled on the final motion? Here is our report from today’s upcoming noon news: “Casey’s lawyer, Jose Baez requested the state stop handling all forensic evidence. But the judge denied that motion. However he DID grant the defense team the right to be notified if any  testing takes place in the future.”

– John Cutter/WESH.com

I'm not sure regarding the camera.

Thank you Mammy
I did see earlier where someone(JJ?Tomm?)posted the 10/28 date for her arraignment.I'll search to see if FL allows cameras in the courtroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 05:50:41 PM
It might be fun to see Cindy and Beth Smith go at it.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 05:50:43 PM
Quote
Ballpark in Arlington?

I would recognize it anywhere!!!  ::MonkeyCool::
Me too. I love that park except during the dead of summer. LOL

This will be my last O/T post.  I swear!  Yes, Ballpark at Arlington.  On a 103 degree day! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa
I knew it. Sorry O/T.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 17, 2008, 05:50:48 PM
Little Caylee has been on the cover of People Magazine twice now
She has been on the cover of every rag magazine
she has been headlined everynight on CNN NG for what 80 days now
she has been covered on every major network and local network daily since day ONE
There is a $225 k reward and Still NO caylee

I want to know where they are getting tips that this child is alive and what are these tips

Good Afternoon Monks! Welcome new Monks!   I watched both videos of George!  Oh my GAWD!!   IMO he is doing exactly what JB is telling him to do. George needs to listen to his own attorney...not Casey's!!  IMO they plan to use all the missing children as part of their defense!! See all these missing children...their mothers aren't charges with killing them.... If there were/are any credible tips the FBI has/will check them out....kinda goes to show none of them have been credible. Remember the nut case who say she actually talked to Caylee on the plane...oh my Gawd...that nut case needs to be locked up! I do believe they are getting tips...from nut cases....from people who just want to be a part of this...and from people who are just down right MEAN... The PI is just making a living/killing (still wanna know who is funding all this). If they were anyplace near to finding a live Caylee they would be CRAZY (well we know they are) NOT to involve the FBI. The whole thing is CRAP. The more George talks....the crazier he sounds. And the more he spouts off the more people are turning a deaf ear...IMO. I'd love to know exactly what he was referring to when he said Casey was involved in something.  The little boy who was kindnapped in NV yesterday.(sorry his name escapes me at the moment...it's been a long tiring day)...I have a stinking feeling the defense is going to use this scenario...some drug dealers stole Caylee cause Casey saw or heard or did something....and she is protecting Caylee be not talking....they threatened to kill Caylee if Casey talks...I can hear it now!! However, Casey would have already talked had that been the case....and all the talking G & A do....all the lies of Casey's that they are repeating....hells bells...the 'kidnappers' would already know that Casey told THEM and Caylee would be dead already......but sadly ...she is...and not be some invisible kidnappers...but by her own mother's hand....Forgive all the disjointed thoughts in this post....but after listening to George my head is spinning!!  I have complete faith that the LE know exactly what they are doing. I know there is so much that hasn't been released and will be during the trial. I HOPE it is enough to get a 1st degree murder conviction....but of not...Casey will still spend the better part of her life in prison...her life is OVER....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: littleone on October 17, 2008, 05:52:18 PM
It might be fun to see Cindy and Beth Smith go at it.  LOL

Beth would knock her lyin ass out!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: bleachedblack on October 17, 2008, 05:52:43 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)


Lovely...... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 05:53:51 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up


It's the first I've seen it Walter819.  Thank you for posting the link.

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 17, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
Evening all monkeys. I had to leave last night. Was anyone here on when HH came back, and if so, what was her juicy news? TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: SunnyinTX on October 17, 2008, 05:55:08 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

thanks for the link I had not seen this yet!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 05:56:09 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details


OMGosh this is INCREDIBLE!  In reading this AND Kimber's translation of LP's statements ... I am so happy right now!  This baby has just touched the hearts of thousands and thousands of people!  They WILL bring her home!  Try and stop this search Cindy ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 05:56:54 PM
Where or how would such trace levels be found in the trunk of a car or in a backyard in soil or mulch (is that possible), do you have any theories on that aspect?  Am most interested & hope to see your addressing the question that I posed earlier to you when I get further on down the thread pages.  TYIA

Alturist - I *think* is was Padilla that said the chloroform was found in the yard also. That was earlier this week on NG after the indictment IIRC.

I follow you Rob, I just have been trying to tap stayze's knowledge of the material as a resource.  To date my questions have not been answered or addressed.  The first time I posed the question I admitted my ignorance, stayze has pointed out, my understanding/interpretation, that the claims as printed in the news media are not accurate per se as they seem to be being magnified & somewhat deceptive as to importance.  Am looking for clarification.  Thanks Rob.  Now stayze, can you be of any help?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 05:57:23 PM
The Anthony's Myspace was just updated with this!

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

That's all that was in the blog, just this link!!!!  ::MonkeyEek::

He is actually proud of that interview cause the blog has his picture on it. Also status and mood below:

Friend Image       Help Find Caylee Anthony is asking you repost Caylee's Flyer! 3 hours ago.
Mood: optimistic


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 05:59:07 PM
Klaas - can you screen capture George in this video - I guess now that he is a 'self appointed advocate for missing children' -- he is already wearing shirts with many missing children, not just Caylee.
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 05:59:51 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!
You are talking about the Dog's Beth, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 06:01:43 PM
If Casey had simply given Caylee away to someone or sold her, she would have told by now.  She would not risk life in prison or the death penalty.  The penalty for those things are less than the penalty for murder.

But sometimes I do wonder if she told Cindy the truth after the cops left that first night and before they picked her up the next day to go to her "place of work" and "Zanny's apartment."

She may have confessed to Cindy...and to George and Lee as well...what happened and where the body was.  She probably cried and blamed alcohol or drugs or a mental problem and the three decided to stick with her and help her get away with it.

I know that Cindy turned on a dime from wanting Casey arrested to saying that Casey was a good mother and would never hurt her child.  She turned from being worried sick about Caylee to saying that Casey knew who Caylee was with and that Caylee would be home one day.

I think it is very possible that in those first hours she and George and Lee had to come to grips with some disturbing truths.  Cindy knew first, if that happened, and then she told George and Lee later, and they all decided to cover for Casey as much as the could.

Maybe they all feel guilty for not realizing the stress she was under or for things they said or did to put pressure on her.  Or maybe they just do not want her to get the death penalty. 

Maybe they all know where Caylee is and maybe they plan to somehow "find" her body and try to blame it on Zanny. 

Or they plan to just go on hunting for a live Caylee and hope nobody catches on to what they are doing.

This family can pretend like few others.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 06:02:35 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 06:02:37 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!
You are talking about the Dog's Beth, right?
::MonkeyWink::  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:03:17 PM
It might be fun to see Cindy and Beth Smith go at it.  LOL

Oh man, I would PAY to see that!!!! My money is on Beth!!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 06:03:18 PM
Klaas - can you screen capture George in this video - I guess now that he is a 'self appointed advocate for missing children' -- he is already wearing shirts with many missing children, not just Caylee.
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

Yeah, that's the KidFinders T-Shirt he and Casey have both worn before:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/GeorgeKidFindersT.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 17, 2008, 06:04:24 PM
It might be fun to see Cindy and Beth Smith go at it.  LOL

Oh man, I would PAY to see that!!!! My money is on Beth!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Oh yeah! For sure. Mine, too!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
I have seen that episode. That is exactly what I was thinking last week when she was still at home. They are afraid of Casey and she is still calling the shots even from jail. Maybe that is why Lee has stayed away. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:06:11 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.

Yes, I just watched that video as well. Up until I saw that, I figured Cindy and George were just playing parts in a play called: "Let's Pretend Caylee is Alive."

After watching that video, I think he REALLY thinks she is alive. How could anyone think that?? Just amazing.

And, hello Monkeys, nice to see you all today!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Brandi
Naaaa,IMO Cindy and George both knew Caylee was dead way before she was reported missing.They both knew by 6/16 and they both knew for sure when they smelled that car on 7/15.They know she's dead and they know Casey killed her.No denial,they just want people to believe they are in denial....nope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Babybear on October 17, 2008, 06:06:31 PM
Hudsunn---I just have to tell you how much I enjoy your posts.  I haven't posted for a while but the crack team of one guy named Dominick made me LMAO. Dominick probably works out of a pizzeria.

Yesterday you mentioned that Cindy was standing behind the detective and she said something about "intimidating" him.  That's Cindy's modus operandi.  IMO she has done this to her family forever.  I believe she has intimidated George to change his story.  I don't believe for one minute that he didn't repeat the story of the gas cans for the grand jury.  If he had changed the facts to obey  Cindy's probable instructions he would likely be facing a perjury charge. But he knows what's good for him.  Deny, deny, deny.  He said nothing to implicate Casey in anything, per Cindy. I suspect the grand jury knows differently.

And we have all seen the dismal failure of her hilarious attempts at intimidating those other than her family.  She has used a baseball bat, a garden hose, and even stopped her car to beat on windows, all to no avail.  People just laugh at her.  It must be frustrating.

About the "Aura" around the photos.  I think the poster who fears that the Anthonys have been taken in hand by a psychic is probably right.  Sad.  And it is equally sad if they are being taken by a private detective who needs "Just a little more money" to go the last couple of steps to find a live Caylee. 

They need to face the facts.  Caylee is dead.  Casey killed her.  I suspect they do know that, but if they pretend she is alive, she is alive to them.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: doselady51 on October 17, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
Hi-I love your avatar BTW
If Casey spills the beans about her parents then she will have to admit her part and so far that is unlikely to happen. Sorry don't remember the TZ episode. I do believe that Casey has her family wrapped around her pinkie for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 06:08:38 PM
Evening all monkeys. I had to leave last night. Was anyone here on when HH came back, and if so, what was her juicy news? TIA!


HH was going to be out checking out several locations today.  She will get back to us on what she saw and felt. 

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 06:08:43 PM
Evening all monkeys. I had to leave last night. Was anyone here on when HH came back, and if so, what was her juicy news? TIA!

Stayhomemommy - hope I am not preaching to the preacher here, lol  but did you know you can click on anyone's name and pull up their profile page.  From that page if you scroll down, you can click show latest posts from this user.  For example here is hh's page:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=4427  if you scroll down and click latest posts you will be able to see what she posted last night.
Often, if I am trying to follow a person's posts I will do this.  I also do it if I like something a person wrote and want to see what else that person is thinking or saying.
Anyway, if you know - might be useful for newbies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!
You are talking about the Dog's Beth, right?
::MonkeyWink::  ::MonkeyCool::
Oh thank goodness. The first Beth that came to my mind was Natalee's mom. I couldn't for the life of me think she would wear spike heels and fight with Cindy. She is such a classy lady. Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 06:10:27 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: akmom on October 17, 2008, 06:10:27 PM
Does anyone remember what day Casey took a shower at someone else's house and where are the pings for the phone on that day?
The shower was on July 1st at Jesse's house from what I have read.
Here is the map for July 1st - sorry if it's already been posted -

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.553917~-81.170983&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916676&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!161&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.553917~-81.170983&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916676&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!161&encType=1)
Thank you so much, I guess I need to figure out how to pull this stuff up myself.  She was near the Amscot on that day.  Hmmm, I wish my mind would stop going where it is going


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 06:11:03 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!

True that! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 06:11:21 PM
Klaas - can you screen capture George in this video - I guess now that he is a 'self appointed advocate for missing children' -- he is already wearing shirts with many missing children, not just Caylee.
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

Yeah, that's the KidFinders T-Shirt he and Casey have both worn before:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/GeorgeKidFindersT.jpg)
Thanks Klaas - I had not paid that much attention - I think I always thought that all the shirts were Caylee.  First time I noticed this shirt.  Thanks again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 06:12:16 PM
LOL "End of the month" versus "end of the money."  Hmmm I think with George and Cindy it is more about the attention and the "fame" than the money.  Oh, I am sure they would like to get rich, but they love the limelight.  Something happens to some people when the camera is focused on them, and Cindy especially soaked it up like a sponge. 

I think George saying that he is "an inspiration to some people" indicates that he feels important and that he wants to be the new John Walsh or Mark Klaas.  He bragged about himself to the police, too, so much that they said, I think in a sarcastic way, "I bet you are good at a lot of things, George."

I almost feel sorry for him sometimes. 

Cindy is the same way.  She wants to be a big influence of some type.  She talked the other day about "We should think about this and be very careful" and all that.  And she never cried or choked up when she mentioned Caylee.

In a way, this situation, I think, has brought them all together.  I think they were a very distant, argumentative, volatile, angry family, with one constantly pitted against the other.  Now with this tragedy, they are all trying to unite.

Money is part of it, but fame and recognition are more important to them, imo.



Fame & recognition increase the future monetary value, really do think we are seeing a group of sociopath's here, with visions of grandeur, no respect for authority. 

IMO, no respectable defense attorney would be affiliated with this type of behavior so I think part of the strategy is to keep the jokes working until the farce is abandoned, unless they intend to bring one of the high profile jokester attorney's forward like Geragross & Tacopenis.  When we look back onto previous high profile probable death penalty cases, for the most part the respectable death qualified attorneys don't put out nonsense & basically stick to a self imposed gag posture until the trial starts.

bbl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:12:43 PM
Hi Monkeys ~ Good Friday afternoon :)

Was thinking and going through the one site Docstoc with the photos etc of Casey ...
The Cupid Singles Ad that Casey posted. I was curious about her Name she chose. Case035

So probably means nothing but some how my Monkey investigating mind found these things - with Case035

1. The First Season of The Twilight Zone
The 35th Show of Season One was Titled - " The Mighty Casey"
--------------------------------------------------------
The coach of a broken-down baseball team allows a robot named Casey to play on his team. Casey has the ability to throw super-fast balls that cannot be hit. Eventually, the National League finds out and rules that Casey must be taken off the team because he is not human. Casey's inventor gives him a heart to have him classified as human. Now that Casey has human emotions, he refuses to throw his fast balls anymore. He says that he feels empathy with the batter and does not want to ruin the batter’s career by striking him out. With the team sure to fold soon, the coach and the scientist set off to create an entire pitching staff of Casey robots.
------------------
The Man who played " Casey" was in convicted of 2004 Murder 1st Degree at the * put in jail at the age of 75 sentenced to life  California = He capped a guy premeditated in public.
------------------------------------ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Then I took the 03 for March and 05 for year and googled Missing child Florida - WHY ? I was dame bamaged and so tired last night after all this week of .....monkey brain overload. I think my banana split.
Within a minute  any way Came Up March 2005 Missing - Body Never Found * Florida * God bless her little Soul *** I am sure many ppl on SM are familiar with Rilya. I have heard of her yet had not seen any new info on her. She is still Missing :(

Rilya Wilson - 4 yrs old Missing  - A four year old child is missing from a foster home for fifteen months. No one reports her missing. No one from Social Services notices she is missing. The foster "person" " Jane Doe" receives and continues to cash and spend the welfare checks sent each month for her care. Little Rilya Wilson has not be seen and is presumed dead at the hands of her foster "person".

The woman that they believe killed her never made a statement * just like Casey. Was said that she told another inmate * hearsay that she did kill Rilya.  But to Date her body has never found.

Claims were that Rilya was given to a Woman that has never yet to be found either.

The Woman/Monster is still in Jail - Dade County Thank God. She is in a Woman's Correctional facility
Her name is " Jane Doe" - YES, believe it or not.  I went and found to see if she was still Rotting behind bars. She is still there ...............

Jane Doe was given Rilya by her bio mother prior to 2000 due to her being drug addicted etc.  Believed to be Murdered in 2000 by Jane Doe.
2002 -Child family services somehow thru investigation found no trace of Rilya.
Rilya was never reported missing by Jane Doe and yet had not been seen since 2000.
snipped - http://www.socyberty.com/Sociology/Rilya-Wilson-One-Short-Life.172239/2

Fortunately there has been some retribution. Geralyn Graham her "caretaker" was charged with murder when she couldn't explain where the child was or why she didn't know where she was for fifteen months. The charges against her included three counts of aggravated child abuse, kidnapping and murder. A grand jury convened and it was determined that Rilya was suffocated or beaten to death in December of 2000.

The Florida authorities were unable to charge Pamela or Geralyn Graham in the little girl's disappearance. Their statement included these words,"We believe the individuals we arrested today are the best source we have right now to the whereabouts of Rilya," said Doyle Jourdan, Regional Director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Jane Doe " Geralyn" has over 45 Alias Names, Not only has she been Charged with Killing Rilya but Has lived a life of Fraud, Stealing etc ... and I am Mad because I can't find anywhere EXACTLY what her sentencing was handed down. She went in front of the Florida GJ and is in Dade County Correctional system. No Body Found to this day .........
It has many attributes that come to mind with Casey ..........

With All Week with Caylee in my Mind, and This Little Boy Cole .. and going back to Rilya
I am utterly speechless " How" these children have been treated by their own Families.
Interesting Deenie
I wonder if this was one of the missing children Casey was searching on her computer in the beginning of this year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
Klaas - can you screen capture George in this video - I guess now that he is a 'self appointed advocate for missing children' -- he is already wearing shirts with many missing children, not just Caylee.
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

Yeah, that's the KidFinders T-Shirt he and Casey have both worn before:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/GeorgeKidFindersT.jpg)
I just love that stupid look on his face what a faithful puppy..Which way did her go george, Which way did he go???(Tail Wagging)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:14:24 PM

Good morning everyone.  My question is how did KC get this way?  Has she always been this way?  Her friends and people like the Grunds say this is not the KC they once knew?  That is what I don't seem to understand. 


Dealing with a sociopath myself.... my thought is that she has always been this way and was able to hide it from people for a while as long as she was getting what she wanted.....and when she could not hide it any longer she would move on to the next relationship.


Yep they move to another "host". That is the psych term for their victims. I researched this topic to no end when I was involved with this man.

I just ordered the book "The Socipath Next Door".  It hasn't come in yet

My heart goes out to anyone dealing with an anti-social, sociopath, psychopath in their lives.  My ex is a classic textbook sociopath, and I count myself fortunate that my three sons and I got away from him alive.  That was 22 years ago. 

It's mind boggling to look around and learn about so many people who know someone like this, or who are or have lived with someone like this. 

Scarier yet, my oldest son (who has not seen or been around his father in 22 years, has turned out exactly like him!)   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyWaa::   

For those who want to learn more about this, it's true that the above book is excellent.  There's another excellent book called 'Tears and Healing', by Richard Skerritt.  There is a preview of this book at the following link:

http://tearsandhealing.com/sociopath3.htm?utm_content=3ishe-notcrazy-LrnDis-stopAb&gclid=CJH2r5ugr5YCFRKIxwodvRdbLA

... or if that link is too long and didn't work, here's another...   

http://tinyurl.com/5bzay8


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Hudsunn on October 17, 2008, 06:14:44 PM
Thanks, babybear and altruist. I enjoy your post, too, and all the others.  Sometimes I get a bit carried away.  Ha.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 06:14:53 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

First Off ... Casey will claim she "sold" Caylee to Amy ... That is why she helped herself to the money in Amy's account ... for payment ...Amy already knew about it ..... THEN ... Amy was going to double that money by re-selling Caylee in PR .... see ... that way it covers BOTH her NOT GUILTY PLEAS! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:18:11 PM

I certainly agree with you regarding Janet and other impressive Monkeys.
Wish I had more computer savy.
Unfortunately loooooooong bubble baths are a rare thing for Mom's with young children ...(I remember it well) but maybe, just maybe you could manage that drink tonight. ::MonkeyHaHa::  Here's some Monkey  :smt060' and encouragement for you!


Thank you!!!    :smt055


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 06:19:32 PM
Klaas - can you screen capture George in this video - I guess now that he is a 'self appointed advocate for missing children' -- he is already wearing shirts with many missing children, not just Caylee.
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

Yeah, that's the KidFinders T-Shirt he and Casey have both worn before:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/GeorgeKidFindersT.jpg)
I just love that stupid look on his face what a faithful puppy..Which way did her go george, Which way did he go???(Tail Wagging)

The guy is lost when he can't take cues from Cindy!  Chuck if you are reading this, please have a "Coming to Jesus" meeting with George.  He's making a total fool of himself!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
What's the phone number for kidsearch? I saw 3 little girls today with brown curly hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sam on October 17, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!

True that! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 06:23:15 PM
So I went out to get the newspaper and tripped over the grass, it was fallish!!!!   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
silly kitty ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
(pardon the snippage  ::MonkeyTongue:: )

This would be laughable if it were not so sad and involved a dead child.


Najame needs to muzzle him and Cindy, too.  Now he is on record, for the second time, giving a date when the child will come home.  The first one was "She will be home by her birthday."  The second one is "She will be home by Halloween."

What happens when the end of the month comes and goes and she is still not home.  Will it change to, "She will be home to sit on my lap when I play Santa."


You know what this reminds me of? Cult leaders who claim to know the date of Christ's return, or of Armageddon.. and that date passes but nothing happens. So then they recalculate and come up with a new date.  That passes and nothing happens... and so on, and so on. 

You're right.  If this weren't about a little girl who is likely dead somewhere, it would be downright hysterical.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 06:23:57 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!

True that! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam
Sam I thought the same thing, I think they were talking about that Dog the Bounty Hunter's wife. Not sure though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
I have seen that episode. That is exactly what I was thinking last week when she was still at home. They are afraid of Casey and she is still calling the shots even from jail. Maybe that is why Lee has stayed away. JMO

Oooo that's the one with Billy Mummy and he says TO The Cornfield! Yeah, that's exactly what it's like! Oh please Casey, don't wish me to the cornfield!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:24:59 PM
In this video George said he was going to take his own life a couple weeks ago ::MonkeyNoNo::....he says they think Caylee is in PR...... ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

well.. maybe caylee is *buried* in PR, but i highly doubt there is a live caylee there.. or anywhere.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 06:25:55 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details

Well, bless them (and any and all who will come search) -- but I kinda whince at the thought of "Dog" et al muggin' it up for a "photo op".

Or Beth walking through muddy trails in her spiked heels! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa
I don't know how much "Beth" could help look -- she can't even see her own feet!!

True that! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam

I'm sorry.  It was Dog The Bounty Hunter's wife, Beth that we were talking about.  Leonard Padilla wants to get a group of BH's together to help TES search for Caylee.  If you have seen Dog's show, you will see Beth running around in spiked heels to apprehend fugitives.  I don't know how she's managed to avoid a broken ankle! ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:26:45 PM
i just joined but caylee was so cute and prabably loo started ked alot like her dad and her mom was beautiful till she killed caylee and started patying!

hi briannabug, and welcome to the monkey cage!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:28:18 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?
Hi Lula
I don't know if the pavers under Caylee's playhouse were new or not but I did see images of investigators pulling up pavers....looked like the ones under the playhouse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:28:41 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/10/breaking-news-c.html

Sorry if this has been posted trying to catch up

October 17, 2008

Breaking News : Caylee Anthony Search Set to Resume
Texas EquuSearch has announced that they will resume the search for Casey Anthony's missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, on Nov. 8. According to Tim Miller, founder and director of the organization, it will be the "biggest search in history."

In related news, Leonard Padilla has sought out the aide of bounty hunters from around the United States, who are now planning on coming to Orlando to help out in the search effort.

Investigation Discovery will also be back on the scene in Orlando, bringing you all the latest details


Wow, that's awesome!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 06:29:15 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
Quote
I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam
okay, but there were other posts inbetween that talked about "Dog's Beth" and Cindy dukin' it out. Sam, you've been here long enough to know that I would NEVER, EVER, EVER say anything derogatory about THE OUR "Beth".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: seemeatthebeach on October 17, 2008, 06:30:48 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

In my opinion, George is being fed a load of cr@p from this PI.  There are a lot of disreputable PI's out there and this particular one has had some complaints.  I also think there are probably some sick people out there calling in false tips.

I was puzzled by the aura comment too. 


D&A Investigations, Inc.
Dominic Casey
Seminole County
2735 W. State Road 434
Longwood, FL 32779-
USA
Phone: 407-865-7152
Fax: (407) 865-7158
Email: dominic@dgator.com
Website: www.dgator.com
Specialties: CIV | COR | FRA | COM | FRD | INS (Missing Persons not even one of his specialties)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:31:47 PM
Wonder how day 3 in a 8x10 cell feels? Casey is probably enjoying rest and reading. She is away from the parental drama and probably believes her lawyer really cares about her... lawyers have a way of convincing clients about that.

Sleep deprivation should be setting in, and the lack of carbs will start playing with her mind in the next few days. She probably feels safe in the little room, uncomfortable but safe.

All this time alone will give Casey time to think of her situation. She is free from the friends and parties, she is free from motherhood, she is free from her parents, and she has fame and publicity. That's a pretty good option considering the downward spiral she was facing. Maybe this will be a turning point in her life that she needed. Until that lethal injection shoots into her veins that is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.

the problem I find with this is What will George Say in 2 weeks or a month when Caylee isnt home?
Will they still say they are steps away? what will be his excuse then ?
will we be any closer to caylee by then or finding her?
As time passes and there is NO Caylee how will this family manage?
George says it's possible they will find Caylee by the end of this month.
IMO George and Cindy are not human.....that's why they have to fake it like they are doing and will continue to do until Casey goes to trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 06:32:06 PM
I found this one at WS
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/HAPPYhalloween.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 06:32:10 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

In my opinion, George is being fed a load of cr@p from this PI.  There are a lot of disreputable PI's out there and this particular one has had some complaints.  I also think there are probably some sick people out there calling in false tips.

I was puzzled by the aura comment too. 


D&A Investigations, Inc.
Dominic Casey
Seminole County
2735 W. State Road 434
Longwood, FL 32779-
USA
Phone: 407-865-7152
Fax: (407) 865-7158
Email: dominic@dgator.com
Website: www.dgator.com
Specialties: CIV | COR | FRA | COM | FRD | INS (Missing Persons not even one of his specialties)

Who suggested these PI's?  Was it Baez?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....
what periscope cat? I didn't get the memo. We can't say "Anthonys"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: PJ on October 17, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
Evening all monkeys. I had to leave last night. Was anyone here on when HH came back, and if so, what was her juicy news? TIA!

Stayhomemommy - hope I am not preaching to the preacher here, lol  but did you know you can click on anyone's name and pull up their profile page.  From that page if you scroll down, you can click show latest posts from this user.  For example here is hh's page:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=4427  if you scroll down and click latest posts you will be able to see what she posted last night.
Often, if I am trying to follow a person's posts I will do this.  I also do it if I like something a person wrote and want to see what else that person is thinking or saying.
Anyway, if you know - might be useful for newbies.


A_News_Junkie_Monkey,
Thank you a Big Bunch! (bananas of course)  That's some information I'll try to keep in this old brain of mine.

PJ :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mizjay on October 17, 2008, 06:33:49 PM
Ol Georgie is beginning to take on that mannerisms of a brainwashed cult member. He's almost swaying as he talks and has a perpetual glassy eyed look and has been half smiling as if only he knows the truth and almost feels sorry for us misguided fools that can't see what he sees.

Casey has managed to finally emotionally win the game with her parents.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:34:53 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.

The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: lula on October 17, 2008, 06:34:57 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?
Hi Lula
I don't know if the pavers under Caylee's playhouse were new or not but I did see images of investigators pulling up pavers....looked like the ones under the playhouse.
Thank You for your response. If they were new, where are the old ones?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....
what periscope cat? I didn't get the memo. We can't say "Anthonys"?
No, the other words you said.  I just don't want you to get in trouble.....  and what does periscope cat mean???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:36:09 PM
A-1.. I think she means that your tail looks like a periscope.   ::MonkeyWink::

JJ- she means you cant talk about politics.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
This is a family of delusional nuts.  Sad but true.  I am sure his lawyer is about to jump off a cliff. 

If Caylee is found alive, I think the family will be charged with some kind of hideous hoax.  I really do. 

George is trying to make a career for himself as a child advocate. 
All George is really doing is messing things up for the REAL humans who have a real missing child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 06:37:06 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

Thanks for all your work, Blonde!! ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:37:35 PM
I am new to this forum, and have been following this story, since the beginning.  I don't believe Casey when she says she has no clue where Caylee is.  I do believe she killed her little two year old girl and I would like to believe it was an accident.  But I can't get past how confident Casey appears that we will not find the body.  It makes me truly think about where little Caylee's body can be or what she did with her body.  And why Casey is so confident (at least she appears to be), that a body will never be found.   

Because she appears so confident, it makes me wonder if we are not even close to where Caylee's body is. 

The dumpster has always bothered me.  I never really hear anyone communicate that the landfill(s) have been thoroughly searched.  Or maybe a landfill can't be thoroughly searched.  So upsetting.

Hi Blaze, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance:: 

I'm with you, the idea of the dumpster has bothered me from the start. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:37:53 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....
what periscope cat? I didn't get the memo. We can't say "Anthonys"?
No, the other words you said.  I just don't want you to get in trouble.....  and what does periscope cat mean???
ok, I won't talk about... what I'm not suppose to talk about...
your avatar is a cat with a periscope on it's head... it's cute.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:38:17 PM
It is hard to even listen this man..."It's always been about family"....even when you filed for divorce, George?  He said that she would be home by her third birthday.  Now, he is saying that the detective he hired already has what he needs and she will be home by the end of the month.   
Do you think that the Anthony's are being paid to keep this " Idea" going ... or are being instructed by Najame .. or something like that. To Keep THEM  Cindy & George in the Media to make and create " Doubt" for the general public. And or just to keep the Facination Brewing so that down the line they will make a Deal for a Movie ...book etc. I am thinking there are many that have Jumped on the Casey Wagon and are as we sit ... creating/writing a Book about Casey's Calculated Mind  ......

Keeping a "reasonable doubt" is what it's all about now- that's all it takes to avoid conviction...
True,but you cannot doubt the science,the proof that sweet little Caylee was dead in the trunk of that car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:38:35 PM
Quote
I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam
okay, but there were other posts inbetween that talked about "Dog's Beth" and Cindy dukin' it out. Sam, you've been here long enough to know that I would NEVER, EVER, EVER say anything derogatory about THE OUR "Beth".

Hey, don't be going all Ape sh!t on Beth from Dog the Bounty Hunter either! I like her! Especially when she went after a fugitive for pushing her daughter down on the sidewalk! The boys were even afraid of her. She protects her babies, unlike someone ELSE I know!!! Casey!!!!! In fact, the site is the way I found out about Caylee, they have it on their site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:39:37 PM


just want to comment on the 'dirt' in florida.  i live in nebraska, so found a post from long ago to have been very interesting and informative.  it seems the dirt in florida is more sandy than the dirt i'm used to here.  and that mixture of sand reportedly makes it more difficult to not only dig in, but to cover something up as well.  the more one digs down into it, the more sand just falls into the hole being dug, that kind of thing.  my bet is that if caylee has been buried, she's in a shallow grave, just because of the mix of sand with the dirt. 


Thank You Wyks!

PJ :flower:
[/quote]

You're welcome PJ!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:40:13 PM
Ol Georgie is beginning to take on that mannerisms of a brainwashed cult member. He's almost swaying as he talks and has a perpetual glassy eyed look and has been half smiling as if only he knows the truth and almost feels sorry for us misguided fools that can't see what he sees.

Casey has managed to finally emotionally win the game with her parents.

 

You noticed the little "knowing" smile too, when he answered the reporter about going to some of the places Caylee is claimed to be seen. I thought that was strange.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
The Anthony's Myspace was just updated with this!

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html

That's all that was in the blog, just this link!!!!  ::MonkeyEek::

First off, it's stupid of him to post that when the first article listed has to do with the dress that Cindy herself claims isn't Caylee's.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

(I'm sure the page has probably updated since he posted that link but still. Maybe he should take it down now? Or post that section of the article he wants to draw our attention to.. at the very least).


Second,

Quote
"We've been getting info out about Puerto Rico, because we believe that's where she is, but the info I've gotten over the last three months is that my granddaughter has been to nine different locations," Anthony told News 13.

Come the hell on here, George. Does this seem logical to you?!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 06:40:55 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

Thanks for all your work, Blonde!! ::cartwheel::

Since I sometimes have an attention span the size of a gnat, I occasionally do forget to check out the other threads in the Caylee section. Please remember to look at them if you don't - there is a gold mine of wonderful information there, including photos, timelines, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:41:12 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I wonder when they took down all the no trespassing signs.
The cam won't come up for me...I knew it all would be coming down.
NOW George and Cindy are really seeking the media attention,wouldn't it be funny if the media just ignored them?Well except for Holly who Cindy  said would never get another exclusive,guess Cindy forgot to tell George that lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 06:41:51 PM
What does George mean by an "aura around her pictures" when he talks about Caylee.  He said that tells him she is still alive.  He says he has a detective who is just "about two steps" from finding Caylee but "he needs help."  Well, why does he need help if he knows he is that close?  And what about what he said a while back about them knowing where she is and the people being watched.  He says she is in ORLANDO.  Hello?  All of the tips have been in North Carolina and Texas and other places.  They better get their stories straight. 

In my opinion, George is being fed a load of cr@p from this PI.  There are a lot of disreputable PI's out there and this particular one has had some complaints.  I also think there are probably some sick people out there calling in false tips.

I was puzzled by the aura comment too. 


D&A Investigations, Inc.
Dominic Casey
Seminole County
2735 W. State Road 434
Longwood, FL 32779-
USA
Phone: 407-865-7152
Fax: (407) 865-7158
Email: dominic@dgator.com
Website: www.dgator.com
Specialties: CIV | COR | FRA | COM | FRD | INS (Missing Persons not even one of his specialties)

Who suggested these PI's?  Was it Baez?

Lisa

They ARE Baez's PI's   

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/14/parents_to_visit_casey_anthony.html

Private Investigators Visit Casey
Friday, August 15, 2008 5:26:38 PM

ORLANDO -- While most of Casey Anthony's visitors have either been family members or her attorney, News 13 has uncovered two other men, who visited her behind bars, are actually private investigators.

Jail records show on July 25, Casey got a visit from Edward Phlegar, who is an investigator for her attorney Jose Baez's law firm.
   
Casey Dominic, another private investigator for Baez, visited Casey on Aug. 8.

-snipped-



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: jjayinthemorning on October 17, 2008, 06:42:46 PM
A-1.. I think she means that your tail looks like a periscope.   ::MonkeyWink::

JJ- she means you cant talk about politics.  ::MonkeyTongue::
ohhhh. I see. ok, I'm annoyed at telemarketers and skittles instead and they are just as annoying as George and Cindy.

Where's this photo of ZG? and why is it being withheld from the FBI?
What ever happened to the underpass car change on the way to drop off Casey to the police?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 06:42:56 PM
I can't win -- at least we agree that we would love to see "Beth- Dog's wife"  kick Cindy's ass.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.



The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

Cindy Honey! Where is that Cracker Jack box? These nice folk want to see my Detectives Badge!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 06:45:55 PM
Can JB get in trouble for saying he has positive proof that there is a picture of KC, Caylee and ZG and not producing the pic? He is misleading the public and LE in stating he has proof that Caylee is alive, this is an on going investigation, I would think someone in his position would have to be held accountable for the information he says he has.  ::MonkeyShocked::

The silence encompassing Todd Black's claim of an existing photo of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee implies there was no foundation of proof.  Todd Black is a joke.  Could Jose Baez not retained somebody more professional as a media spokeperson.

Janet
_____________

THE PHOTO OF CAYLEE AND ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ - WHERE IS IT?
 
Mother of Missing Florida Toddler Caylee Anthony Might Soon Be Charged With Murder
Thursday, October 09, 2008


Meanwhile, Baez said through his spokesman Todd Black that the defense's own investigators are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who Anthony contends took Caylee, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

Black says the picture was taken at a park and shows the woman they say is the baby sitter, Anthony and little Caylee. It isn't known when the photo was taken.

Black said Anthony's lawyer has for weeks been trying to find the man who has the picture and after finally locating him, sent a team to interview him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435002,00.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:46:46 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....
what periscope cat? I didn't get the memo. We can't say "Anthonys"?
No, the other words you said.  I just don't want you to get in trouble.....  and what does periscope cat mean???
ok, I won't talk about... what I'm not suppose to talk about...
your avatar is a cat with a periscope on it's head... it's cute.

Is there another full moon tonight??? LOL!!! I'm just cracking up over this!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 06:47:37 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 06:49:02 PM
Listening to this family is almost painful,  something akin to nails on a chalkboard.  GA is probably  for the first time in his adult life being called an "inspiration". That coupled with the visions, auras and sure fire detective work has him dancing on the edge of reality.

Interesting that he brought up the reward money,  now  come on, if one of his sick daughters friends took Caylee (as a favor, to help CA carry out her fake kidnap plot, since she didn't have the $$ to go to PR) is he seriously believing that one of these kids all heading to the sea and sand would have contacts to drop off Caylee to a abductor clever enough to elude FBI and every other person hunting for this child. Somebody in that mix of characters would immediately turned that scenario in for that  reward.

COME ON, ANTHONYS, for just once look inward to your gene pool for answers

 
Great post MizJay!
I like that"dancing on the edge of reality"....describes the Anthony's perfectly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on October 17, 2008, 06:49:31 PM
Ol Georgie is beginning to take on that mannerisms of a brainwashed cult member. He's almost swaying as he talks and has a perpetual glassy eyed look and has been half smiling as if only he knows the truth and almost feels sorry for us misguided fools that can't see what he sees.

Casey has managed to finally emotionally win the game with her parents.

 

Building on this....in an odd way.  Today, Dr. Phil - started show with Casey update.  Nothing new and he promises to stay on the story.  (Memo to Dr. Phil - let us monkey's handle it!)  But, the reason I mention it is, the show was about a man who has amnesia and doesn't know who he is.  One of the points made for this man was that from a medical standpoint his brain doesn't show an injury conducive to medical amnesia.  Thus, a major trauma is the likely origin.  George and Cindy almost seem close to that point to me.  They are operating on a different plane of preservation.  It is sad that they have nobody in their lives to help them deal with this trauma.  Of course, my compassion is only limited to *IF* they had nothing to do with this.
Anyway, this guy thinks he is from Indianapolis, In - maybe each of us monkeys can take a peek and see if anyone knows this guy.
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1146/
Actually, the show was Thursday - I just watched it today! LOL  Love my dvr - never know what day it is!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: wreck on October 17, 2008, 06:50:07 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!
Okay, so that is a "rear view" of a cat taking a leak! That's a Periscope on your head!! I see it now -- very clearly.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: mrsrocko19 on October 17, 2008, 06:51:21 PM
I don't know what is more annoying, the Anthony's or the presidential campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, the Anthony's don't deserve any more attention until they start cooperating and stop the drama.
Psst JJ, you must have the memo, we are not allowed to say those words anymore or the big red button will appear.....just so you knoww....
what periscope cat? I didn't get the memo. We can't say "Anthonys"?
No, the other words you said.  I just don't want you to get in trouble.....  and what does periscope cat mean???
ok, I won't talk about... what I'm not suppose to talk about...
your avatar is a cat with a periscope on it's head... it's cute.

Is there another full moon tonight??? LOL!!! I'm just cracking up over this!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I'm never gonna be able to look at that kitty avi without laughing now... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 06:51:44 PM
Karma it is interesting and Local case that Casey would have heard I am sure  - " Missing local child"  ding ding meant for Casey.

Karma was thinking bout what you said about George and his welfare thoughts and his new found self proclamation about Other missing children.

The first thing that comes to my Mind is Adam Walsh of Hollywood Florida. How his Dad " John"  turned his life around after losing Adam. And that he in turn vested his life into finding missing kids which then he  created American's Most Wanted   .... No nanners Not Comparing John to George A

Just seems that George is using all this attention and his new found focus on MISSING KIDS he may use it to his benefit and not be doing it for the benefit of anyone. As (it is a Rouse) for Him to look like he has Compassion and is NORMAL and Cares about Missing Children. That all his talk of other missing kids is creating a new character of him in the public.

You don't see Cindy mentioning any family's missing child at all ~~~ as George has in the media after he testified.

George I am not sure if we would know of or remember  Adam Walsh * maybe he would being a Cop at that time. George stated on Camera the other Day he has been neighbors with the ppl on the same street for 19 years. Adam has been gone SIGH for a lot longer. I live in Michigan and I will never forget Adam. I was a teen and I will never forget Adam's pic or his story. Being that it was so horrific I don't think Adam will Ever be forgotten.
Still it's crazy every time I go into a Sears ~ I think of Him today. And when my Daughter was Little,  Adam kept me focused on HER when we were shopping and made me think  Anything  can happen to your child in public ~ within Minutes.

Casey Casey Casey .............Where is Caylee   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Why &  How but mostly WHY !?
With her being so Slick Willie Style  ... You Would Think she Would have Just let her Parents have her and Casey could have became someone else's parasite * many Men out there that think with their Hoohoo... would have put her up for wks at a time. And she could have just found another one and so on and so on
 ::MonkeyConfused::Was Life Term Jail worth the Trade for Casey - That Caylee being with George & Cindy as Custodial Parents was that Bad .........that she had to kill her ???
Casey is so F'bbd up. 

Thank God its Friday  ::MonkeyCool::
Its been a very long week











Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 06:52:50 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!
Okay, so that is a "rear view" of a cat taking a leak! That's a Periscope on your head!! I see it now -- very clearly.  ::MonkeyConfused::
No, my kitty is facing you and she has a star on her chest because she is special and it shines on the floor.  Her tail is at the back. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:53:20 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!

Hot Toddy is just blowing smoke up our monkey butts.. there's no picture.  Just another way to create doubt in potential juror's minds.  If they don't release it until the trial, and then (during testimony) show a very grainy picture.... perhaps one taken from a distance.. there's no way to definitively prove who anybody in the picture is.  Thus making people wonder.... is that really Caylee? or Casey? or the missing ZG? 

Hmmm...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

RICHARD GRUND - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 16, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Casey Anthony Murder Case Developments
Aired October 16, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Straight out to Richard Grund, the father of Jesse Grund, As you will recall, he was engaged to tot mom Casey Anthony and was actually told that Caylee was his biological child. That it turned out to be false, that he had fallen in love with the little girl.

Mr. Grund, thank you for being with us. What are your feelings now that formal charges have come down?

RICHARD GRUND, FATHER OF JESSE GRUND, CASEY ANTHONY`S EX-FIANCE: Well, Nancy, thank you for having me on. You know we saw where this was going. We`ve watched the evidence. We`ve watched the trail. We knew it had to -- as long as Casey never said where Caylee is or who has her, this is the only direction it could go in, but we`re -- you know if anybody thinks that we`re happy or we`re celebrating, we`re not.

GRACE: You have said that if Caylee`s actually dead you believe it was the result of an accident? Do you still believe that?

GRUND: I absolutely believe that. I have never changed from that. I do not believe at any time that Casey Anthony would do deliberate harm to her daughter and almost anybody that knows Casey from friends to family say the same things. So I have not -- I have not backed off of that.

GRACE: In your wildest imaginings, how can you explain chloroform in her car trunk and her computer searches for chloroform?

GRUND: I think -- and Rob Dick can give you a better explanation of this, I believe -- and you know, let me state that since Caylee went missing I have done nothing but talked to Leonard, talked to anybody I can to try to find her. I have neglected in my life.

GRACE: Scenario. You say it`s an accident, how can that be with this evidence?

GRUND: OK, because I believe that Casey was working on a way to get away from her mother and I think that she had an exit strategy and something went wrong.

GRACE: OK. Well, that`s so vague I don`t even know what you`re talking about.

GRUND: What I mean is, I think -- and Rob can explain this better -- I think Casey was going to find a way to get away from her mother and it might have included faking a kidnapping.

GRACE: OK. Well, then that`s not an accident. You do a kidnapping and you use chloroform, that`s an aggravated assault and when they get her.

GRUND: If she used the chloroform.

GRACE: . (INAUDIBLE) murder.

GRUND: You know, Nancy, what we`re dealing with right now is a whole lot of speculation. We don`t know what happened.

GRACE: That is certainly true.

GRUND: If they find Caylee and there`s no evidence of chloroform all that goes out the window.

GRACE: Well, there is evidence of chloroform. But you`re right.

GRUND: In the car.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/16/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 06:55:05 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

RICHARD GRUND - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 16, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Casey Anthony Murder Case Developments
Aired October 16, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Straight out to Richard Grund, the father of Jesse Grund, As you will recall, he was engaged to tot mom Casey Anthony and was actually told that Caylee was his biological child. That it turned out to be false, that he had fallen in love with the little girl.

Mr. Grund, thank you for being with us. What are your feelings now that formal charges have come down?

RICHARD GRUND, FATHER OF JESSE GRUND, CASEY ANTHONY`S EX-FIANCE: Well, Nancy, thank you for having me on. You know we saw where this was going. We`ve watched the evidence. We`ve watched the trail. We knew it had to -- as long as Casey never said where Caylee is or who has her, this is the only direction it could go in, but we`re -- you know if anybody thinks that we`re happy or we`re celebrating, we`re not.

GRACE: You have said that if Caylee`s actually dead you believe it was the result of an accident? Do you still believe that?

GRUND: I absolutely believe that. I have never changed from that. I do not believe at any time that Casey Anthony would do deliberate harm to her daughter and almost anybody that knows Casey from friends to family say the same things. So I have not -- I have not backed off of that.

GRACE: In your wildest imaginings, how can you explain chloroform in her car trunk and her computer searches for chloroform?

GRUND: I think -- and Rob Dick can give you a better explanation of this, I believe -- and you know, let me state that since Caylee went missing I have done nothing but talked to Leonard, talked to anybody I can to try to find her. I have neglected in my life.

GRACE: Scenario. You say it`s an accident, how can that be with this evidence?

GRUND: OK, because I believe that Casey was working on a way to get away from her mother and I think that she had an exit strategy and something went wrong.

GRACE: OK. Well, that`s so vague I don`t even know what you`re talking about.

GRUND: What I mean is, I think -- and Rob can explain this better -- I think Casey was going to find a way to get away from her mother and it might have included faking a kidnapping.

GRACE: OK. Well, then that`s not an accident. You do a kidnapping and you use chloroform, that`s an aggravated assault and when they get her.

GRUND: If she used the chloroform.

GRACE: . (INAUDIBLE) murder.

GRUND: You know, Nancy, what we`re dealing with right now is a whole lot of speculation. We don`t know what happened.

GRACE: That is certainly true.

GRUND: If they find Caylee and there`s no evidence of chloroform all that goes out the window.

GRACE: Well, there is evidence of chloroform. But you`re right.

GRUND: In the car.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/16/ng.01.html



EDIT:

RICHARD GRUND - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 16, 2008


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:57:36 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.

Hi 3babiesmommy, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance::

That's what I heard originally too, that Baez was referred to her by another inmate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Am thinking who Casey turned Caylee over to, is Jesus.   :( 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!
Okay, so that is a "rear view" of a cat taking a leak! That's a Periscope on your head!! I see it now -- very clearly.  ::MonkeyConfused::
That's what I thought the first time I saw it.   But then I quickly realized that the kind-hearted monkey who made that for A-1 wasn't as sick in the head as I was.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 07:01:23 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:03:12 PM
I don't think Najame wants George and Cindy saying anything at all.  George opened himself up to at least ten different accusations of lying, exaggerating and misrepresenting.  George is all about George now, and Cindy is all about Cindy now.  Caylee is just a way to get their mugs in the papers and on tv.  And a way to bring in donations from people who are way too gullible.

I loved it when he said, "I have been told that I am an inspiration."  Remember in the interview how he bragged about what a great security guard he is. 

They want to keep the idea of Caylee being alive out front so that the donations, if there still are any, will not dry up.  And since when does a "team of detectives" equal one guy named Dominick?

These people lie like other people breathe, if you ask me.
that's what friends are for right "chuck"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 07:03:47 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

First Off ... Casey will claim she "sold" Caylee to Amy ... That is why she helped herself to the money in Amy's account ... for payment ...Amy already knew about it ..... THEN ... Amy was going to double that money by re-selling Caylee in PR .... see ... that way it covers BOTH her NOT GUILTY PLEAS! 


what? NINE different locations? where did he GET that "information"... what NINE places was she MOVED to?

unbelievable ..... crazy stuff....

try THIS george: i WISH my granddaughter were still alive... i cannot BELIEVE my granddaughter is dead... i PRAY my caylee is still alive...  i will not give UP till i see my dear granddaughers remains...

but PLEASE stop with the crap george... you were a cop... even YOU wouldnt believe YOURSELF on this stuff...

geeeeeeeeeeeze... i swear... stuff like this makes me crazy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 07:04:48 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::  Did a possible eyewitness see tot mom Casey Anthony with a shovel and paper bag in late June? Nancy Grace has the latest on missing three-year-old Caylee. , tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kcrn on October 17, 2008, 07:04:57 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.



The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

Cindy Honey! Where is that Cracker Jack box? These nice folk want to see my Detectives Badge!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
seriously....no seriously--hi did not say that?!?!?!? If that were true, the entire world would stink to high heaven, especially our homes since our homes are filled with hair and skin cells we shed every day. I would love to be believe that this baby is alive, but i just cant think theyre framing this girl and came up with all of this forensic evidence to do it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Sam on October 17, 2008, 07:05:42 PM
Quote
I seldom post but when I read these post I immediately became angry and signed on . Then in reading back I discovered it was not Beth Holloway who was being discussed. I do not know what Beth you were discussing but I do think if you are going to use the name Beth it should be clarified who the Beth is. The Beth we at SM know and love is Beth Holloway. So please clarify to avoid the big red button.
JMHO Sam
okay, but there were other posts inbetween that talked about "Dog's Beth" and Cindy dukin' it out. Sam, you've been here long enough to know that I would NEVER, EVER, EVER say anything derogatory about THE OUR "Beth".

Wreck it was because your name was in the quote is what caused me to read back in the first place. I seldom read all the post that I have missed unless something catches my eye. I generally start on the last page and read back if I want to know more about a topic. So yes I could not believe you would be involved in a post against our Beth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
Why did Nancy Grace say that Texas Equsearch is pulling out again b/c of no cooperation from the family?  Is this true or is she just behind?

Sal

I heard this too.  For the past couple of weeks Tim Miller's position in regards to an ongoing search for Caylee Marie has been changing.  Just last night he told Nancy Grace that the search would proceed big time.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BTW ... the adorable child you chose for your advatar reminds me of my kids when they were small.  Sigh!  I would love to turn back the hands of time.

Janet
_______

TIM MILLER - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 15, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Judge Denies Bond for Casey Anthony
Aired October 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to remind everyone that we have not achieved our primary objective in this investigation. We have not recovered little Caylee Anthony.

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Caylee`s little body needs to be found. This search will be larger than any search I feel we have ever done in history

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/15/ng.01.html


TIM MILLER - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 16, 2008

NANCY GRACE
Casey Anthony Murder Case Developments
Aired October 16, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Texas Equusearch has left the area of Orlando after no cooperation, according to them, from the Anthony family. Back out to Natisha Lance, our producer, standing by at the jail. Natisha, are police planning to start a search? Are they rounding up volunteers?

LANCE: At this point, Nancy, police are just following up those tips that have come in and working with all the information that they have at this point. There is not an active search. But when the time becomes available, they will be doing that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/16/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:06:36 PM
This would be laughable if it were not so sad and involved a dead child.

Everyday people drop thousands of dead skin cells, so according to George the whole world should smell like the death mobile in his garage!

And every barber shop or beauty salon should just reek.

He is probably trying to spin reasonable doubt, but just how dumb does he think jurors are?  He needs to leave that to the lawyers.

And why would his sweet or blood smell like a cadaver?  His brain may be dead, but the rest of him is alive.

I think it is true that he may be resorting to psychic hocus pocus or maybe he and Cindy put their giant brains together and read a book on the paranormal. 

But he sounds downright nuts.

Najame needs to muzzle him and Cindy, too.  Now he is on record, for the second time, giving a date when the child will come home.  The first one was "She will be home by her birthday."  The second one is "She will be home by Halloween."

What happens when the end of the month comes and goes and she is still not home.  Will it change to, "She will be home to sit on my lap when I play Santa."

All the myths about their happy little clan.  It was not a happy little clan.  He filed for divorce.  The police were called there for loud verbal disturbances.  The kids made fun of him and Cindy in their emails.  Cindy described her own daughter as a sociopath and a pathological liar. 

This is the happy little family?

But mainly, Cindy and George are not on the same page with their spin.  She spoke the other day and said that Caylee had been spotted all over the country.  Now, he says Caylee is in ORLANDO.  The whole premise has been that Caylee was taken away.

Cindy said they had hired a team of detectives.  He mentions just one.

And that yarn about dead skin cells smelling like a cadaver is just downright hilarious.  Casey is an outrageous liar, and she tells lies that are insulting to people of even low intelligence, but so do her parents!



You know ... at this point I am inclined to believe that by their repeated bizarre behavior that Cindy and George are purposely setting up Casey's defense ... perhaps out of guilt ... IMO they could be setting up a defense of  "Look ... she is crazy .... she lies ... this is how she was brought up .... it's our fault ..."  IMO it won't work ... but who knows what they are thinking ...  I'm sure none of Cindy and Georges media statements will be brought into real evidence but if they can "taint" the jury before it's picked ... they may think this behavior may work to their advantage ...
I think you could be on to something, I mean, how many of us hate cindy as much as casey? I know I'm pretty close.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Steel Monkey on October 17, 2008, 07:07:09 PM
Susan Moss and Rosanne Rosannadanna!

(http://i38.tinypic.com/302t9ur.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/jku0xi.jpg)


Lovely...... ::MonkeyCool::

Rob - were these the HOT WOMEN you had wanted to post?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: nikkibnurse on October 17, 2008, 07:07:55 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Did a possible eyewitness see tot mom Casey Anthony with a shovel and paper bag in late June? Nancy Grace has the latest on missing three-year-old Caylee. , tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:08:17 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
I have seen that episode. That is exactly what I was thinking last week when she was still at home. They are afraid of Casey and she is still calling the shots even from jail. Maybe that is why Lee has stayed away. JMO
Yup,the whole dang family is nutso with Casey driving them furthur out there.Poor little sweet Caylee ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kcrn on October 17, 2008, 07:08:47 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::
cindy even stated that she doesnt believe "Zenaida" exists and that "zenadia" is whoever has caylee-namely jesse or amy. Why oh why would amy press charges against CA for the checks stolen if she had ANYTHING to do with it. Do these people have any semblance of common sense left or what???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 07:08:53 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Did a possible eyewitness see tot mom Casey Anthony with a shovel and paper bag in late June? Nancy Grace has the latest on missing three-year-old Caylee. , tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

A shovel and a paper bag?


Ok..  let's please count the number of witnesses we've heard of now.

A woman who drove by and said she thought the car might be her friend's, so she looked for bumper stickers (or the lack thereof?)

A man and his friend who saw her coming out of the woods (but I don't recall them- if these are the guys who wrote in to Brian- saying anything about red sunglasses OR a big hat)

A new person who saw her with red sunglasses and a hat??  (mentioned yesterday, correct?)

And now this person? Um..   ::MonkeyEek:: 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Now THAT would Be Something to see ! Just let George Sit & Listen
 Let Mr. Klass and Mr. Walsh talk  - Let George SEE Their Aura ! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2008, 07:10:39 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 07:10:47 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Did a possible eyewitness see tot mom Casey Anthony with a shovel and paper bag in late June? Nancy Grace has the latest on missing three-year-old Caylee. , tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

A shovel and a paper bag?


Ok..  let's please count the number of witnesses we've heard of now.

A woman who drove by and said she thought the car might be her friend's, so she looked for bumper stickers (or the lack thereof?)

A man and his friend who saw her coming out of the woods (but I don't recall them- if these are the guys who wrote in to Brian- saying anything about red sunglasses OR a big hat)

A new person who saw her with red sunglasses and a hat??  (mentioned yesterday, correct?)

And now this person? Um..   ::MonkeyEek:: 


::MonkeyShocked::  Did a possible eyewitness see tot mom Casey Anthony with a shovel and paper bag in late June? Nancy Grace has the latest on missing three-year-old Caylee. , tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

A shovel and a paper bag?


Ok..  let's please count the number of witnesses we've heard of now.

A woman who drove by and said she thought the car might be her friend's, so she looked for bumper stickers (or the lack thereof?)

A man and his friend who saw her coming out of the woods (but I don't recall them- if these are the guys who wrote in to Brian- saying anything about red sunglasses OR a big hat)

A new person who saw her with red sunglasses and a hat??  (mentioned yesterday, correct?)

And now this person? Um..   ::MonkeyEek:: 


I do believe the person yesterday said she had a shovel AND a bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 07:11:31 PM
Oh dear, I apologize for the double quote!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
Hi-I love your avatar BTW
If Casey spills the beans about her parents then she will have to admit her part and so far that is unlikely to happen. Sorry don't remember the TZ episode. I do believe that Casey has her family wrapped around her pinkie for whatever reason.
Thanks DoseLady,our own CBB made it for me last Halloweenie.
I think Casey convinced her parents to help her with the coverup.If she could convince her parents that she wasn't 7 months pregnant because she never had sex....she could convince them of anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Steel Monkey on October 17, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
Thanks, babybear and altruist. I enjoy your post, too, and all the others.  Sometimes I get a bit carried away.  Ha.

Then you just keep getting carried away!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: kcrn on October 17, 2008, 07:13:47 PM
Hello Everyone!
I am a new poster and I really enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and insights.  I saw yesterday that some people were wondering how KC knew J. Baez and if she knew him before.  I heard on the news that she was referred to him by another inmate.  Apparently he had defended this inmate in another case.

Hi 3babiesmommy, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance::

That's what I heard originally too, that Baez was referred to her by another inmate.
hmmm, should have been a clue to her since the other inmate was apparently still in jail ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:14:03 PM
Casey and Annie and Friends Barf ... Um at Cowboys Bar
Shows pics of Casey in Red Sunglasses
Docstoc.com

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 07:16:49 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::

Well, you know what they say about "assuming".

Please think before you post something like the above - we don't condone attacking fellow forum members here


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 07:17:16 PM
Rob - were these the HOT WOMEN you had wanted to post?

not at all  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I said "women" not female mystery beasts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:18:24 PM
Whats the lady's name on CNN that sometimes Takes NG's place ??

Is it Rob's Girlfriend with the Mullet? sorry Rob ...one of you male monkey's enjoy her hair "style"    ::MonkeyHaHa:: .... is she taking NG's Place tonight?

She is Live on Headline News right now .... She is not usually in this time slot
NG starts here in 45 mins. Just wondering



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 07:18:46 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Scard%20Monkeys%20Mod/tink-lock100.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: OurAngelCaylee on Today at 12:30:50 AM
I just arrived home from work...so please forgive me if this video of George has already been posted....

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7653911&version=1&locale=EN-US


Wow....George is still so full of bull caca,just like Cindy.
I'll be glad when the trial starts.Does anyone know when the murder trial will start and does Florida allow cameras in the court room?
I just listened to the interview with George.  He still fully believes that Caylee is alive and that his PI is only 2 steps away from finding her.  He may have done the right thing in going to the grand jury but he only did it because he had to. He still buys into Casey's whole story.  Unbelieveable...I guess his heart has taken over his mind and rational thinking.  I think he only surrounding himself with people that will tell him that Caylee is alive and just a few days away from being found.  That is why the Anthonys will not speak with or cooperate with TES.
Hi DoseLady
I think Cindy and George are just showing this fake face to the media because they are afraid.Afraid that Casey may not like what they are saying and spill the beans about their roles in the coverup of the murder of their own grand daughter.
Ever see that TwilightZone episode with the little evil boy who controls everyone around him?That little evil boy is Casey.Casey still has her family walking around on egg shells....wonder how long they can keep this up.
I have seen that episode. That is exactly what I was thinking last week when she was still at home. They are afraid of Casey and she is still calling the shots even from jail. Maybe that is why Lee has stayed away. JMO

Oooo that's the one with Billy Mummy and he says TO The Cornfield! Yeah, that's exactly what it's like! Oh please Casey, don't wish me to the cornfield!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
LOL...he sealed his sister's mouth closed,wiped the lips right off her face.....what I wish could be done with Cindy. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 07:20:54 PM
Casey and Annie and Friends Barf ... Um at Cowboys Bar
Shows pics of Casey in Red Sunglasses
Docstoc.com

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar

Too bad we can't read the name on the dog tags she is wearing ... we may have a "baby daddy" if we could ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 07:21:45 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Now THAT would Be Something to see ! Just let George Sit & Listen
 Let Mr. Klass and Mr. Walsh talk  - Let George SEE Their Aura ! ::MonkeyWink::


yep... they could certainly tell george that they KNOW first hand how it feels to lose a loved child... that they KNOW how their worlds came crashing down and will NEVER be the same...

and.. they could tell him to tell the truth... for caylee..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:22:41 PM
I found this one at WS
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/HAPPYhalloween.jpg)
All 4 images rolled into one,that's what Casey is like on the inside. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: always 1 on October 17, 2008, 07:22:55 PM
Did someone say the web cam is completly gone now???   Sorry to be a pain in the bobo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 07:23:47 PM
Casey and Annie and Friends Barf ... Um at Cowboys Bar
Shows pics of Casey in Red Sunglasses
Docstoc.com

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar

I know that I'm so old I'm from a different era, plus I was a delicately nurtured southern belle  ::MonkeyTongue:: BUT

Jeeze Louise - did these people never feel embarrassed about the crass way they behaved in public?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on October 17, 2008, 07:24:20 PM
Did anyone notice R. Grund on NG last backpeddling? Some of us have posted that there is just something about him that doesnt sit right with us. I in no way believe he is involved but last night he sang a different tune.

Hi Tamikosmom!

Absolutely! I could not believe my ears. When I first saw him on NG, I thought, ok, level headed guy. Did all the right things to protect his son from CaseyA. Now to hear him back pedal like he did last night makes me wonder why. You could see the look on NG face wondering WTF he was talking about. This case is full of flip flops!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Blonde on October 17, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

Thanks for all your work, Blonde!! ::cartwheel::


Thank You, I try to keep up
::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:25:26 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?
Hi Lula
I don't know if the pavers under Caylee's playhouse were new or not but I did see images of investigators pulling up pavers....looked like the ones under the playhouse.
Thank You for your response. If they were new, where are the old ones?
That's a very good question.Would you put a playhouse like that right on the grass?I don't know,I never had one.Good question....were they replacing pavers or just laying down new pavers....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:25:32 PM
Casey and Annie and Friends Barf ... Um at Cowboys Bar
Shows pics of Casey in Red Sunglasses
Docstoc.com

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678652/Casey-Anthony-Party-Photos-Cowboys-Bar

I know that I'm so old I'm from a different era, plus I was a delicately nurtured southern belle  ::MonkeyTongue:: BUT

Jeeze Louise - did these people never feel embarrassed about the crass way they behaved in public?  ::MonkeyShocked::
  I agree !! Can you imagine what they Did in FRONT of Caylee at Parties at people's Houses ...where they Had No Rules behind front doors...... Lord have Mercy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 17, 2008, 07:25:55 PM
Can JB get in trouble for saying he has positive proof that there is a picture of KC, Caylee and ZG and not producing the pic? He is misleading the public and LE in stating he has proof that Caylee is alive, this is an on going investigation, I would think someone in his position would have to be held accountable for the information he says he has.  ::MonkeyShocked::

The silence encompassing Todd Black's claim of an existing photo of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee implies there was no foundation of proof.  Todd Black is a joke.  Could Jose Baez not retained somebody more professional as a media spokeperson.

Janet
_____________

THE PHOTO OF CAYLEE AND ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ - WHERE IS IT?
 
Mother of Missing Florida Toddler Caylee Anthony Might Soon Be Charged With Murder
Thursday, October 09, 2008


Meanwhile, Baez said through his spokesman Todd Black that the defense's own investigators are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who Anthony contends took Caylee, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

Black says the picture was taken at a park and shows the woman they say is the baby sitter, Anthony and little Caylee. It isn't known when the photo was taken.

Black said Anthony's lawyer has for weeks been trying to find the man who has the picture and after finally locating him, sent a team to interview him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435002,00.html




Is this not the electronics age?  Scan that pic and get it all over the WWW already!  Let's see that picture!   (No, I'm not holding my breath!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

Thanks for all your work, Blonde!! ::cartwheel::
I have to get going but I wanted to thank Blonde also for this good resource.It's been a big time saver for me so thank you Blonde for all of your hard work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.


I agree.  Cindy and George are desperately attempting to avoid the reality of the situation ... THEIR PRECIOUS GRANDAUGHTER IS NO LONGER ALIVE AND ... THEIR PRECIOUS DAUGHTER IS THE REASON.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet
_________

CAYLEE IS IN PUERTO RICO??

Source Says Casey Said Caylee Was Sold To Someone In Puerto Rico
POSTED: 5:24 pm EDT September 24, 2008
UPDATED: 8:01 pm EDT September 24, 2008


Wednesday, sources who spent a lot of time with the family in recent weeks, told Eyewitness News that when Casey got out of jail the first time, she convinced her mother that she sold her daughter to someone in Puerto Rico. The only interview Cindy's done since then is with Univision, where she talked about a tip that Caylee was in Puerto Rico.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550086/detail.html


'This Can't Keep Happening; They're The Same Punks,' Casey Anthony Tells 911
Rock-Throwing Protesters Try To Drag Missing Girl's Grandfather Into Street
POSTED: 1:42 pm EDT September 18, 2008
UPDATED: 4:41 pm EDT September 18, 2008

Search Taken To Puerto Rico


Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony are taking the search to find Caylee to Puerto Rico.

Cindy Anthony sat down with a Univision reporter for a one-on-one interview for the Spanish language TV station.

Anthony said she wanted to do the interview because of the large Puerto Rican viewership and she would like for the report to be played in Puerto Rico.

She said the family got tips about Caylee but could not give details about exactly where in Puerto Rico.

In the interview, Cindy Anthony said investigators told her weeks ago about evidence from the body farm.

According to investigators, the evidence suggests that Caylee is dead.

Cindy Anthony said she believes it was an intimidation tactic.

http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html


Dress Found In Woods, Similar To Caylee's
Friday, October 17, 2008 2:35:01 PM

George Anthony Talks To News
13

George Anthony, the grandfather of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, spoke exclusively with News 13 Thursday about the family's latest efforts to find his granddaughter.

Anthony said his family has been cleared by a judge to access all 5,000 tips recorded by the Orange County Sheriff's Office tip line.

This comes after the judge in the case denied the defense's motion to preserve forensic evidence. See previous story.

Anthony added they are disturbed by the fact the Sheriff's Office shut down the tip line in mid-august.

The family's private investigator is looking into multiple potential sightings of Caylee, 3, around the country, including New York and South Carolina, Anthony said.

"We've been getting info out about Puerto Rico, because we believe that's where she is, but the info I've gotten over the last three months is that my granddaughter has been to nine different locations," Anthony told News 13.
Anthony is working to find a new location for the Kid Finder's Network command center, where you can find the Caylee Anthony information billboard, as well as information on other missing children.

Complaints by protestors have forced the billboard off of four different properties.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 07:31:01 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious creature."

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:31:33 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.



The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

Cindy Honey! Where is that Cracker Jack box? These nice folk want to see my Detectives Badge!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
LOLOLOL!
I swear,Cindy did say they seeked medical attention.I think Cindy and George share the same drugs that make them ramble on and on and on....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?
Hi Lula
I don't know if the pavers under Caylee's playhouse were new or not but I did see images of investigators pulling up pavers....looked like the ones under the playhouse.
Thank You for your response. If they were new, where are the old ones?
That's a very good question.Would you put a playhouse like that right on the grass?I don't know,I never had one.Good question....were they replacing pavers or just laying down new pavers....

I've been trying to find a playhouse for my grandson, but most of them don't have floors and you would not want to just put it in the yard especially since there are so many fire ants and such in Florida.  Son-in-law is probably going to have to build a platform of sorts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious creature."

Lisa
Hee Hee "odious creature" I like that. I just refer to her as a skanky B-word.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 07:34:54 PM
Rob - were these the HOT WOMEN you had wanted to post?

not at all  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I said "women" not female mystery beasts.

I'm sorry.. I thought you said mystery breasts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: joesamas mama on October 17, 2008, 07:35:43 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.



The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

Cindy Honey! Where is that Cracker Jack box? These nice folk want to see my Detectives Badge!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
LOLOLOL!
I swear,Cindy did say they seeked medical attention.I think Cindy and George share the same drugs that make them ramble on and on and on....
Maybe instead of drugs that make them ramble, they need a truth serum so they can TELL THE TRUTH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:37:48 PM
I know the Cage is about to Lock ... tic tic tic

Everyone Saw Casey in her Ms. Librarian Outfit with Her dark framed Eyeglasses after the Baez News blast
Or Did Baez pick them up at CVS ....the buy them off the Rack ... Put these On they will make you look Smart LOL

And Going thru the Docstoc photo's of Cowboys ...she again has on Eyeglasses.
Metal Frames ...then No eyeglasses and then again with the RED sunglasses on other pictures at Cowboys.

The Red Sunglasses in Question they look like Prescription the Ones that Tint in Sun or bright light ..they are are weird color tint ...thats why I say that possibly they are prescription eye wear

Just seems weird that she has them ON and then Off in those photos. I would not think she would wear contacts ...and use eyeglasses the same night " cowboys".  Maybe they ruined her Sexy look.  Gawd

Universal Studio's must offer a Great Vision Plan ... Insurance

Just thinking




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
I can't win -- at least we agree that we would love to see "Beth- Dog's wife"  kick Cindy's ass.  ::MonkeyCool::
Hey, maybe she can get george's balls back from cindy while she's at it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 07:38:10 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious  creature."

Lisa


yeah,.. i think i did see MARC say that... and by ODIOUS i dont believe me meant squirrel remains...or dead cells... or sweat.... or old pizza  ... even as ODIOUS as they may be to george and cindy...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: 515angel on October 17, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
Tell the truth? These people wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face!!!
In fact it's slapping them silly right now!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:39:46 PM
Can JB get in trouble for saying he has positive proof that there is a picture of KC, Caylee and ZG and not producing the pic? He is misleading the public and LE in stating he has proof that Caylee is alive, this is an on going investigation, I would think someone in his position would have to be held accountable for the information he says he has.  ::MonkeyShocked::

The silence encompassing Todd Black's claim of an existing photo of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee implies there was no foundation of proof.  Todd Black is a joke.  Could Jose Baez not retained somebody more professional as a media spokeperson.

Janet
_____________

THE PHOTO OF CAYLEE AND ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ - WHERE IS IT?
 
Mother of Missing Florida Toddler Caylee Anthony Might Soon Be Charged With Murder
Thursday, October 09, 2008


Meanwhile, Baez said through his spokesman Todd Black that the defense's own investigators are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who Anthony contends took Caylee, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

Black says the picture was taken at a park and shows the woman they say is the baby sitter, Anthony and little Caylee. It isn't known when the photo was taken.

Black said Anthony's lawyer has for weeks been trying to find the man who has the picture and after finally locating him, sent a team to interview him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435002,00.html


Janet, I believe that Todd Black's involvement was/is to sell this story.  He's another bloodsucker, hoping to profit off the death of a child.  He's in the same league as JB.  Where's JB's wedding ring, anyway?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: lula on October 17, 2008, 07:40:18 PM

George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

If that is true George, all the cadaver dogs must be going nuts all the time as we all do shed.
He's been sipping the Anthony's Special Reserve. Good Grief!!! They ALL have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
Karma it is interesting and Local case that Casey would have heard I am sure  - " Missing local child"  ding ding meant for Casey.

Karma was thinking bout what you said about George and his welfare thoughts and his new found self proclamation about Other missing children.

The first thing that comes to my Mind is Adam Walsh of Hollywood Florida. How his Dad " John"  turned his life around after losing Adam. And that he in turn vested his life into finding missing kids which then he  created American's Most Wanted   .... No nanners Not Comparing John to George A

Just seems that George is using all this attention and his new found focus on MISSING KIDS he may use it to his benefit and not be doing it for the benefit of anyone. As (it is a Rouse) for Him to look like he has Compassion and is NORMAL and Cares about Missing Children. That all his talk of other missing kids is creating a new character of him in the public.

You don't see Cindy mentioning any family's missing child at all ~~~ as George has in the media after he testified.

George I am not sure if we would know of or remember  Adam Walsh * maybe he would being a Cop at that time. George stated on Camera the other Day he has been neighbors with the ppl on the same street for 19 years. Adam has been gone SIGH for a lot longer. I live in Michigan and I will never forget Adam. I was a teen and I will never forget Adam's pic or his story. Being that it was so horrific I don't think Adam will Ever be forgotten.
Still it's crazy every time I go into a Sears ~ I think of Him today. And when my Daughter was Little,  Adam kept me focused on HER when we were shopping and made me think  Anything  can happen to your child in public ~ within Minutes.

Casey Casey Casey .............Where is Caylee   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Why &  How but mostly WHY !?
With her being so Slick Willie Style  ... You Would Think she Would have Just let her Parents have her and Casey could have became someone else's parasite * many Men out there that think with their Hoohoo... would have put her up for wks at a time. And she could have just found another one and so on and so on
 ::MonkeyConfused::Was Life Term Jail worth the Trade for Casey - That Caylee being with George & Cindy as Custodial Parents was that Bad .........that she had to kill her ???
Casey is so F'bbd up. 

Thank God its Friday  ::MonkeyCool::
Its been a very long week


TGIF Deenie
I did wonder in the beginning why AMW never featured Caylee.Then I thought,John would have advised them all to take a polygraph(to rule out the closest people to Caylee)and they never would have gone for that.
IMO KidFinders need to drop ole George.He is hurting the search for real missing kids.
Been nice talking with you,I hope you have a relaxing weekend.
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:41:31 PM
Can JB get in trouble for saying he has positive proof that there is a picture of KC, Caylee and ZG and not producing the pic? He is misleading the public and LE in stating he has proof that Caylee is alive, this is an on going investigation, I would think someone in his position would have to be held accountable for the information he says he has.  ::MonkeyShocked::

The silence encompassing Todd Black's claim of an existing photo of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee implies there was no foundation of proof.  Todd Black is a joke.  Could Jose Baez not retained somebody more professional as a media spokeperson.

Janet
_____________

THE PHOTO OF CAYLEE AND ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ - WHERE IS IT?
 
Mother of Missing Florida Toddler Caylee Anthony Might Soon Be Charged With Murder
Thursday, October 09, 2008


Meanwhile, Baez said through his spokesman Todd Black that the defense's own investigators are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who Anthony contends took Caylee, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

Black says the picture was taken at a park and shows the woman they say is the baby sitter, Anthony and little Caylee. It isn't known when the photo was taken.

Black said Anthony's lawyer has for weeks been trying to find the man who has the picture and after finally locating him, sent a team to interview him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435002,00.html


Janet, I believe that Todd Black's involvement was/is to sell this story.  He's another bloodsucker, hoping to profit off the death of a child.  He's in the same league as JB.  Where's JB's wedding ring, anyway?
Casey Swallowed it   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!
Okay, so that is a "rear view" of a cat taking a leak! That's a Periscope on your head!! I see it now -- very clearly.  ::MonkeyConfused::
No, my kitty is facing you and she has a star on her chest because she is special and it shines on the floor.  Her tail is at the back. 
She is a pretty kitty,maybe have CBB put some sparkly diamonds for eyes on her.I too thought she was a peeing kitty lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 07:43:36 PM
I know the Cage is about to Lock ... tic tic tic

Everyone Saw Casey in her Ms. Librarian Outfit with Her dark framed Eyeglasses after the Baez News blast
Or Did Baez pick them up at CVS ....the buy them off the Rack ... Put these On they will make you look Smart LOL

And Going thru the Docstoc photo's of Cowboys ...she again has on Eyeglasses.
Metal Frames ...then No eyeglasses and then again with the RED sunglasses on other pictures at Cowboys.

The Red Sunglasses in Question they look like Prescription the Ones that Tint in Sun or bright light ..they are are weird color tint ...thats why I say that possibly they are prescription eye wear

Just seems weird that she has them ON and then Off in those photos. I would not think she would wear contacts ...and use eyeglasses the same night " cowboys".  Maybe they ruined her Sexy look.  Gawd

Universal Studio's must offer a Great Vision Plan ... Insurance

Just thinking




I work with a woman who normally wears contacts, but wears glasses instead if her allergies are bothering her. Maybe Casey couldn't stand having contacts in when she had a bad hangover.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 07:44:38 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious creature."

Lisa


NANCY GRACE
Father of Casey Anthony`s Ex-Fiance Speaks Out
Aired September 22, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


MARC KLAAS, FOUNDER, BEYONDMISSING.COM, FATHER OF MURDER VICTIM POLLY KLAAS: First of all, Nancy, the clock of fear starts ticking the moment you realize that your child is gone, and you have no idea where that child is.

You then are working against the clock, realizing that if somebody has taken them, they could be disappearing at the rate of a mile a minute, and that every minute that child is gone, the chances of recovering that child become less and less.

Therefore, you will take any steps necessary to help recover that child. The most important one being eliminating yourself from any kind of suspicion. Therefore, you go to law enforcement, you say, I want to take a polygraph, I want to eliminate myself.

I want you to be able to put the full force of your investigative resource on to whatever did happen to my child so that we can recover my child and this can be done one way or the other.

This Casey woman is an absolutely odious creature. You see -- it`s like concentric circles in a pond. She is leaving victim after victim after victim after victim.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/22/ng.01.html





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 07:45:38 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious  creature."

Lisa


yeah,.. i think i did see MARC say that... and by ODIOUS i dont believe me meant squirrel remains...or dead cells... or sweat.... or old pizza  ... even as ODIOUS as they may be to george and cindy...



Yeah, I'm gonna go with this definition of odious:

Quote
odi·ous (ō′dē əs)

adjective

arousing or deserving hatred or loathing; disgusting; offensive

Yep, fits Casey to a T!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?
Well, cindy certainly has, several times. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: kcrn on October 17, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

BLONDE goes through alot of time and effort keeping these two threads updated.  Please check around and you may find what you are looking for here.

THANKS BLONDE!

Transcripts:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3584.0

Media Reports:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.0

Thanks for all your work, Blonde!! ::cartwheel::
I have to get going but I wanted to thank Blonde also for this good resource.It's been a big time saver for me so thank you Blonde for all of your hard work.
yes thank you blonde


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: anothermonkey on October 17, 2008, 07:47:52 PM
One of the supposed sightings....

This was posted on Brian's site, on 8-31:
http://briansdreams.com/gale/cayleeanthony2.htm  (about halfway down the page)


Quote
What I don’t understand is that there is apparently only one person assigned at each hotline location because I have tried to call and get either a busy signal or a message stating “this number is not accepting calls at this time”. I finally got through to the officer in charge of the case and left a voice mail to no avail. He has never called me back.

 Let’s just say that on June 27th we (my friend and I) took the 417 north from my office in Kissimmee to avoid the traffic on I-4. At one point on I-4 spotted a young lady about 30 feet to the right of the shoulder of the road lifing a short shovel out of the trunk of her light colored pontiac. I thought it was preculiar and made the comment to my friend to make a mental note that if anyone turns up missing we know where they may be burried (at the time I thought I was joking). My friend called me cynical and paranoid, and I told him he was probably right. My come-back was “yeah, you’re probably right. Maybe she’s just digging up wildflowers or burrying a pet if she lives in an apartment and doesn’t have a yard to burry it in. When the news hit that Caylee was missing it didn’t occur to me until I once again took 417 north another time to avoid traffic and as I came to that spot I had a vision of the young girl again. I litterally had to pull off to the side of the road to compose myself. I came home and asked my friend if he recalled our conversation. He said yes, but he said don’t be surprised if they don’t listen to you. Because I couldn’t reach anyone that would listen at the sherrif’s department, I emailed Gale St John the other evening. She still hasn’t called me. There had to be other people driving along 417 on June 27th that saw what I saw. The traffic was pretty heavy at 6PM. I am sure about the date because my friend dropped me off at work in Kissimmee, barrowed my car to do some marketing for his business in the Kissimmee area and then picked me up. I have credit card receipts from discount movie tickets I purchased as gifts that day. If you recall the gas cans that George Anthony found in the daughter’s car were recovered on the 24th of June.

IF this person is to be believed, and IF this is the same person as yesterday's sighting (or today's), they must have given more info to LE than to Brian.. there is no mention here of a hat or sunglasses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:48:57 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
good idea.   I vote you write NG and suggest it.  (serious, it would certainly be a show to see!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:51:55 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::

Well, you know what they say about "assuming".
are you being catty? cause I think that was pretty shitty if you are


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 07:52:02 PM
i keep thinkin that NG should have george on her show... sit him down right between MARC KLASS and JOHN WALSH..

then tell him to repeat his insane comments to THEM...


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That I would love to see!  I do know that Marc Klass has referred to Casey as an "odious creature."

Lisa


NANCY GRACE
Father of Casey Anthony`s Ex-Fiance Speaks Out
Aired September 22, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


MARC KLAAS, FOUNDER, BEYONDMISSING.COM, FATHER OF MURDER VICTIM POLLY KLAAS: First of all, Nancy, the clock of fear starts ticking the moment you realize that your child is gone, and you have no idea where that child is.

You then are working against the clock, realizing that if somebody has taken them, they could be disappearing at the rate of a mile a minute, and that every minute that child is gone, the chances of recovering that child become less and less.

Therefore, you will take any steps necessary to help recover that child. The most important one being eliminating yourself from any kind of suspicion. Therefore, you go to law enforcement, you say, I want to take a polygraph, I want to eliminate myself.

I want you to be able to put the full force of your investigative resource on to whatever did happen to my child so that we can recover my child and this can be done one way or the other.

This Casey woman is an absolutely odious creature. You see -- it`s like concentric circles in a pond. She is leaving

.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/22/ng.01.html


yes .. i DID see that show... but yanno, it kind of upsets me to think of ALLLLLLL those around her being VICTIMS..
there were SOOOOO many of her "friends" and "family" who called her a liar ..

ya got to be careful of your associations... the warning signals were there....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 07:53:09 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

Maybe not George but ... Cindy attempted to implicate Amy and Jesse.

George, Cindy and Lee would have had the compassion of the majority of Monkeys dialoging  on this forum if they had not attempted to shield their daughter from the consequences of her actions ... had not underminded the efforts of authorities  ... had not underminded the efforts of Tim Miller ... had not underminded the motives of the prosecutor and ... had not attempted to implicate others.

Janet
_____

Cindy Anthony Theorized That Her Daughter's Friends Had Caylee
Caylee Anthony Last Seen In June
POSTED: 10:26 am EDT September 26, 2008
UPDATED: 5:25 pm EDT September 26, 2008


The newly released information includes an interview of Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, a computer forensics report and cell phone records of Casey Anthony.

In the released interview, which was conducted Aug. 1, Cindy Anthony told detectives that she thought Caylee was with her daughter's friends, not Zenaida Gonzalez.

"I think Zani, at this point, was a real person," said Cindy Anthony, pointing to a calendar. "But I think Zani now is whoever is watching Caylee."

Cindy Anthony offered two theories to detectives as to who had Caylee.

"I think Zani could either be Amy (Huizenga, Casey Anthony's former best friend) or Jesse (Grund, Casey Anthony's former fiance)," Cindy Anthony said.
Grund believed he was Caylee's father until a paternity test proved otherwise.

"He was the very first person I thought of," Cindy Anthony said. "(He) had a motive, could intimidate Casey enough to keep her mouth shut and (he) would threaten us because he's that type of person. He was in my home every day, and I got to know him. And I got to see his anger and rage because he took it out on me one day."
Near the end of the interview, detectives told Cindy Anthony that they were certain Grund did not have Caylee.

"We know for a fact that Jesse does not have Caylee," a detective said.

http://www.local6.com/news/17564421/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WillenFan21 on October 17, 2008, 07:54:37 PM
For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:54:43 PM
If that was indeed Casey that this  " witness" believes she/he saw
I would think Someone Else saw the same thing - yet it just has not registered or they are completely unaware of this case ...which is very possible. Rush Hour people are consumed by getting from Point A to Point B and not paying attention to such things ...as a car on the side of the road etc...blah
And if it was Casey all it would take would be LE comparing what they know to what She/He said ...something very small that is said could be very key.
Will be interesting to see what comes of this.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 07:55:53 PM
I know the Cage is about to Lock ... tic tic tic

Everyone Saw Casey in her Ms. Librarian Outfit with Her dark framed Eyeglasses after the Baez News blast
Or Did Baez pick them up at CVS ....the buy them off the Rack ... Put these On they will make you look Smart LOL

And Going thru the Docstoc photo's of Cowboys ...she again has on Eyeglasses.
Metal Frames ...then No eyeglasses and then again with the RED sunglasses on other pictures at Cowboys.

The Red Sunglasses in Question they look like Prescription the Ones that Tint in Sun or bright light ..they are are weird color tint ...thats why I say that possibly they are prescription eye wear

Just seems weird that she has them ON and then Off in those photos. I would not think she would wear contacts ...and use eyeglasses the same night " cowboys".  Maybe they ruined her Sexy look.  Gawd

Universal Studio's must offer a Great Vision Plan ... Insurance

Just thinking



when IM'ing with Tony R she mentioned she was wearing her glasses, so she wears them.  Don't know if those were the same ones


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 07:55:56 PM
FYI - NOTICE

I have created a new area for ARCHIVED threads.  I've moved the old Caylee threads to this archive area so they are easier to find:

MISSING PERSONS - HIGH PROFILE - ARCHIVES


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=42.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:56:00 PM
Monkeys are so smart, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but today I noticed a picture of Caylee in her playhouse


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678887/Casey-Anthony-Facebook-Myspace-Photobucket-Photos

in which pavers or other cement stepping stone were clearly visible. Did I not read where the Anthony's were installing pavers over the 4th of July weekend under the playhouse?

Why would you be replacing them unless they were "soiled" or something? Could it be the dogs alerted near the playhouse? Where in the yard did they alert? Has it been confirmed it was by the pool only?
Hi Lula
I don't know if the pavers under Caylee's playhouse were new or not but I did see images of investigators pulling up pavers....looked like the ones under the playhouse.
Thank You for your response. If they were new, where are the old ones?
That's a very good question.Would you put a playhouse like that right on the grass?I don't know,I never had one.Good question....were they replacing pavers or just laying down new pavers....

I've been trying to find a playhouse for my grandson, but most of them don't have floors and you would not want to just put it in the yard especially since there are so many fire ants and such in Florida.  Son-in-law is probably going to have to build a platform of sorts.
Thanks FL Grammy
I wonder if they originally had a platform under the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 07:57:19 PM
so Todd, we keeping hearing about this picture, and you have seen it and all, so I say, oh yeah, bring that!!!!
Okay, so that is a "rear view" of a cat taking a leak! That's a Periscope on your head!! I see it now -- very clearly.  ::MonkeyConfused::
No, my kitty is facing you and she has a star on her chest because she is special and it shines on the floor.  Her tail is at the back. 
She is a pretty kitty,maybe have CBB put some sparkly diamonds for eyes on her.I too thought she was a peeing kitty lol
Dont be mean to Miss Kittie!!!  (thank you :) )

Klaas thank you for posting the "transcript" from Dana's show last night.  Can you please confirm that he did not leave the cage out of anger that no one was tuning in and left rather due to a bed time he had to keep?  I sure hope he was not mad at us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Steel Monkey on October 17, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
If that was indeed Casey that this  " witness" believes she/he saw
I would think Someone Else saw the same thing - yet it just has not registered or they are completely unaware of this case ...which is very possible. Rush Hour people are consumed by getting from Point A to Point B and not paying attention to such things ...as a car on the side of the road etc...blah
And if it was Casey all it would take would be LE comparing what they know to what She/He said ...something very small that is said could be very key.
Will be interesting to see what comes of this.





He sounds pretty sure of the date and time.  What do KC's cell phone pings tell us of this date/time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 07:57:40 PM
From pictures/video's, it appears that Caylee had a beautiful, clean home with lots of toys and precious things thanks to her Grandparents.  Basically a "Beautiful Life".  Did Casey give her daughter to someone else, who promised to give Caylee a better life?  A more "Beautiful Life". 

Viewing the pictures/video's of Casey out living it up after her daughter went missing, makes me think, that if Caylee is alive, Casey was very comfortable with whoever she turned her over to.  Could it be the missing/alledge dead father?  Or maybe his family?  Someone that Casey was ok with Caylee going with, who could provide Caylee with a better life? 

Maybe Casey turned Caylee over to Italian Family, who promised to give Caylee a better life, a "Beautiful Life".  Casey got the tattoo in her family/Caylee honour.



The only thing that has me bothered about this is ... there was the smell of decomposition in Casey's trunk along with Caylees DNA ... I can wish this were true for ever and a day but science speaks otherwise ...
George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

Cindy Honey! Where is that Cracker Jack box? These nice folk want to see my Detectives Badge!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
LOLOLOL!
I swear,Cindy did say they seeked medical attention.I think Cindy and George share the same drugs that make them ramble on and on and on....
Maybe instead of drugs that make them ramble, they need a truth serum so they can TELL THE TRUTH
LOL....I'm sure we can find a doc to hook them right up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 07:57:41 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34r6g6c.jpg)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=296121432


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 07:59:27 PM
Have to see if a floor is seen in Caylee's pics ... I would think that Cindy being a Nurse would want a floor in her playhouse ... because of Ants and such ...

BUT Cindy did say that Caylee  .... Peed in her Playhouse all the time ... I remember
that was the dispute of the diapers in the trunk SMELL and body fluids etc ... Cindy said Caylee Wee'd in the Playhouse a lot



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
NANCY GRACE!!!

5:00 PM ET




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 08:00:07 PM

George says when you drop a hair in a trunk and leave some skin cells behind in a trunk,it can decompose and smell.George says he knows about these things cause he used to be a detective.
 ::MonkeyRoll::

If that is true George, all the cadaver dogs must be going nuts all the time as we all do shed.
He's been sipping the Anthony's Special Reserve. Good Grief!!! They ALL have.
I agree,I've never seen anything like this...yes I have....the Peterson parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 08:00:18 PM
I will not catch up before the thread change...
If someione would be so kinda as to to leave short recap ... before Lock Down I would be most thankful

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2008, 08:00:34 PM
NANCY GRACE!!!

5:00 PM ET




EDIT:

5:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: WillenFan21 on October 17, 2008, 08:00:36 PM
For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Deenie on October 17, 2008, 08:00:43 PM
NG TIME  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 08:01:02 PM
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since NOTHING , or NO one... seemed to notice casey cry before....i just kept wondering.. what was ON her fingers to make her eyes water..... onion juice? some chemical?

OKAY,,, I  AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC here....i honestly wonder.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 08:04:57 PM
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since NOTHING , or NO one... seemed to notice casey cry before....
i just kept wondering.. what was ON her fingers to make her eyes water..... onion juice? some chemical?

OKAY,,, I  AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC here....i honestly wonder.....

okay... what i MEANT to say was.. since NOTHING seemed to make casey cry.. or NO one seemed to ever notice her crying....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 08:05:54 PM
Hello?  This is earth calling George?  Anybody home?

In one interview he says Caylee is in Orlando.  Maybe he meant the detective is in Orlando.  Now he says Caylee is in Puerto Rico but has been moved around to nine different locations.  Oh, my Lord.  This is just ridiculous.

No wonder there is a backlash and people are demanding that businesses remove their tacky advertisements.  There are also anti-Casey t-shirts, too.

The reporter asks if George has been to any of the locations where Caylee has been spotted and he says Yes.  Oh, this is really rich.

Maybe he took a little vacation to Puerto Rico with those donations.

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?
Well, cindy certainly has, several times. 

Did I say "Cindy"???  I think not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: txlisa on October 17, 2008, 08:06:04 PM
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Have you emailed this to Sean? ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on October 17, 2008, 08:07:28 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: invision on October 17, 2008, 08:09:05 PM
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Have you emailed this to Sean?

Lisa

Nah ... I only post here ... that keeps me busy enuff ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Wyks on October 17, 2008, 08:09:54 PM
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since NOTHING , or NO one... seemed to notice casey cry before....i just kept wondering.. what was ON her fingers to make her eyes water..... onion juice? some chemical?

OKAY,,, I  AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC here....i honestly wonder.....

maybe she was able to muster up a tear or two, realizing she had to dress the part of a school marm/librarian, rather than her usual outfit slit up to there, and buttoned down to there...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: FLGrammy on October 17, 2008, 08:09:59 PM
If that was indeed Casey that this  " witness" believes she/he saw
I would think Someone Else saw the same thing - yet it just has not registered or they are completely unaware of this case ...which is very possible. Rush Hour people are consumed by getting from Point A to Point B and not paying attention to such things ...as a car on the side of the road etc...blah
And if it was Casey all it would take would be LE comparing what they know to what She/He said ...something very small that is said could be very key.
Will be interesting to see what comes of this.





He sounds pretty sure of the date and time.  What do KC's cell phone pings tell us of this date/time?

What was the exact date and time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BTgirl on October 17, 2008, 08:11:32 PM
I don't normally watch NG because she is so rude to her guests, but I made an exception tonight, and she is really getting on my nerves. Grrrrrrrrrrrr................ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: Altruist on October 17, 2008, 08:11:35 PM
Hi Brandi
Naaaa,IMO Cindy and George both knew Caylee was dead way before she was reported missing.They both knew by 6/16 and they both knew for sure when they smelled that car on 7/15.They know she's dead and they know Casey killed her.No denial,they just want people to believe they are in denial....nope.

I agree Karma, the reason for all the nonsense, imo, is that CA screwed up, she really DID NOT MEAN TO SAY the "damn dead body in the car" statement due to her anger at having to spend all that money on the towed car which was not part of the "original script", they really meant to have the cops come under the ruse of the bad 22 yr old daughter coming clean to OCSO about the kidnapping at J Blanchard Park, probably a different day as well, but under no circumstances was that car supposed to be in the scenario.  If the "original script" had been followed & CA had not screwed up they would have been on easy street, had enough time to clean up the car by pouring bleach all over that trunk, of course they didn't find out about the decomp odor until 7/15 but that car was never supposed to be mentioned other than the 22 yr old daughter hadn't returned it when told to by the legal owners, by the time KC would have come under suspicion, which she eventually would have the car would be clean after a heavy dousing with Febreeze, Caylee's DNA would have only been located in the main part of the car, where it should be found.  They were attempting to duplicate the Madeleine disappearance with identified suspects basically.  How many months after Madeleine's disappearance had the Portuguese Police ordered the rented car examined for forensic evidence, iirc it was months.

It really isn't just them trying to protect KC, they are protecting themselves, the chief producer is CA, GA went along as his normal MO, they are protecting their own asses from getting prosecuted for the perpetration of a fraud along with being an accessory after the fact, falsehoods stated to OCSO during the case of an investigation & probably 10 more charges.

Would love HH to tell my & others scenario & ask just what charges would CA & GA be facing if they really did advise KC what to do after the death of the child, I don't even want to believe they were part of the death before it happened, although I do recognize there is a possibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
MUFFY - You want to do the thread change or should I?  I don't see anyone else around?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: heykim on October 17, 2008, 08:15:21 PM
Hi Brandi
Naaaa,IMO Cindy and George both knew Caylee was dead way before she was reported missing.They both knew by 6/16 and they both knew for sure when they smelled that car on 7/15.They know she's dead and they know Casey killed her.No denial,they just want people to believe they are in denial....nope.

I agree Karma, the reason for all the nonsense, imo, is that CA screwed up, she really DID NOT MEAN TO SAY the "damn dead body in the car" statement due to her anger at having to spend all that money on the towed car which was not part of the "original script", they really meant to have the cops come under the ruse of the bad 22 yr old daughter coming clean to OCSO about the kidnapping at J Blanchard Park, probably a different day as well, but under no circumstances was that car supposed to be in the scenario.  If the "original script" had been followed & CA had not screwed up they would have been on easy street, had enough time to clean up the car by pouring bleach all over that trunk, of course they didn't find out about the decomp odor until 7/15 but that car was never supposed to be mentioned other than the 22 yr old daughter hadn't returned it when told to by the legal owners, by the time KC would have come under suspicion, which she eventually would have the car would be clean after a heavy dousing with Febreeze, Caylee's DNA would have only been located in the main part of the car, where it should be found.  They were attempting to duplicate the Madeleine disappearance with identified suspects basically.  How many months after Madeleine's disappearance had the Portuguese Police ordered the rented car examined for forensic evidence, iirc it was months.

It really isn't just them trying to protect KC, they are protecting themselves, the chief producer is CA, GA went along as his normal MO, they are protecting their own asses from getting prosecuted for the perpetration of a fraud along with being an accessory after the fact, falsehoods stated to OCSO during the case of an investigation & probably 10 more charges.

Would love HH to tell my & others scenario & ask just what charges would CA & GA be facing if they really did advise KC what to do after the death of the child, I don't even want to believe they were part of the death before it happened, although I do recognize there is a possibility.




hmmmm advising someone what to DO after the DEATH of a child...... hmmmmmm
wonder why i keep thinking that possibly someone could ask JORANS dad....

just a thought..

carry on....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 08:16:54 PM
MUFFY - You want to do the thread change or should I?  I don't see anyone else around?
Hi Miss Klaas, sorry to ask another question, specially at the lock down, but what is going on at Murts sight tomorrow at noon?  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MuffyBee on October 17, 2008, 08:21:34 PM
MUFFY - You want to do the thread change or should I?  I don't see anyone else around?

Klaas ~  go ahead, if you don't mind.   :salut:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Lisa39 on October 17, 2008, 08:22:15 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 08:22:36 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::

Well, you know what they say about "assuming".
are you being catty? cause I think that was pretty shitty if you are
i see you were FLGRammy, being shitty, okay, got it...but Hudsunn did say Cindy and george and I think it's safe to say that they are beating the same drum, chanting the same mantra, so WTF is your point?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 08:22:49 PM
Pant - pant   is it Lock Down Time ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 08:23:12 PM
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Look! Real tears!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
MUFFY - You want to do the thread change or should I?  I don't see anyone else around?
Hi Miss Klaas, sorry to ask another question, specially at the lock down, but what is going on at Murts sight tomorrow at noon?  TIA

MUFFY - ok I'll take care of it

DOLCE - I guess MURT is going to do a little searching in that area that the guy saw Casey with the straw hat, shovel, etc.    So MURT willl have a live feed from his search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: spring2 on October 17, 2008, 08:24:35 PM
Meltdown on aisle 99  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: MuffyBee on October 17, 2008, 08:25:54 PM

Personally, I think he and Cindy want to blame Amy and the others who went to Puerto Rico and will say that they kidnapped Caylee and sold her down there.

I haven't seen or heard once that George was trying to blame "Amy and the others" for Caylee's disappearance.  I must have missed something.  Can you direct me to that link?

I think it's more specifically Cindy..  I don't think we've heard George's interviews with LE where he gives an opinion on what likely happened to Caylee.  (At least that I recall).  But since they're both Casey's parents, and Cindy wears the pants in the family, it's more or less assumed he feels the way she does.   ::MonkeyWink::

Well, you know what they say about "assuming".
are you being catty? cause I think that was pretty shitty if you are
i see you were FLGRammy, being shitty, okay, got it...but Hudsunn did say Cindy and george and I think it's safe to say that they are beating the same drum, chanting the same mantra, so WTF is your point?

That's enough.  Remember you are on the thread of a missing child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: oldfart on October 17, 2008, 08:26:08 PM
BUMP... da BYMP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: O4Bull on October 17, 2008, 08:27:17 PM
thanks MuffyBee,
I think calling another poster, especially a respected one "as ass" is wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 08:27:17 PM
In my signature line is a link to MURT's live feed site.  On Saturday Murt is going to be searching in the area that the guy claims to have seen someone looking like Casey wearing a straw had and red sunglasses.  MURT will have a live feed from his search.  MURT says at around noon ET tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Dolce on October 17, 2008, 08:29:40 PM
In my signature line is a link to MURT's live feed site.  On Saturday Murt is going to be searching in the area that the guy claims to have seen someone looking like Casey wearing a straw had and red sunglasses.  MURT will have a live feed from his search.  MURT says at around noon ET tomorrow.
Thank you!  Sorry I am still trying to catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4
Post by: MuffyBee on October 17, 2008, 08:30:04 PM
thanks MuffyBee,
I think calling another poster, especially a respected one "as ass" is wrong.

And it takes a bigger person to walk away...IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: BooMonkey on October 17, 2008, 08:30:23 PM
Since no one is posting... here is a question that I asked before.... Are there laws that govern people collecting funds for missing children, then not using those monies collected on actual searches but for their own mortgage or food?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: klaasend on October 17, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
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Please move to CAYLEE #46

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3734.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: MuffyBee on October 17, 2008, 08:32:04 PM
Since no one is posting... here is a question that I asked before.... Are there laws that govern people collecting funds for missing children, then not using those monies collected on actual searches but for their own mortgage or food?

I'm sorry, I don't have an answer for you BooMonkey.  It may depend on how the fund is set up.  For example, in the case of Madeleine McCann, the family used the money to make a mortgage payment and etc. and other expenses, but it was not set up as a true charity.  Not sure if it would vary in U.S. from state to state etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: stayhomemommy on October 17, 2008, 09:40:52 PM
Evening all monkeys. I had to leave last night. Was anyone here on when HH came back, and if so, what was her juicy news? TIA!

Stayhomemommy - hope I am not preaching to the preacher here, lol  but did you know you can click on anyone's name and pull up their profile page.  From that page if you scroll down, you can click show latest posts from this user.  For example here is hh's page:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=4427  if you scroll down and click latest posts you will be able to see what she posted last night.
Often, if I am trying to follow a person's posts I will do this.  I also do it if I like something a person wrote and want to see what else that person is thinking or saying.
Anyway, if you know - might be useful for newbies.

Hey, thanks! No, I actually didn't realize that. That is very helpful! :-) Much appreciated!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #45
Post by: Mary on October 17, 2008, 09:42:34 PM
Court tv has been covering a trial this week from Orlando, Fl so yes they do
allow camera's in the court room.