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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:56:33 AM
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x166/Nut44x4/CAYLEE/nitecaylee.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 11, 2008, 05:56:52 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 05:56:57 PM
Thanks Bearly - I was busy wrapping xmas presents  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 05:57:13 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 05:58:11 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 05:58:14 PM
its heart breaking to look at those adorable pictures of such a sweet little one...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 11, 2008, 05:58:20 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 05:59:27 PM
Thanks Bearly - I was busy wrapping xmas presents  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Aw Klaas you should'nt have!  I hope you remembered my size!  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 06:00:08 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::
LOL  I saw that...I just thought you were of a different religion.  LOL

YOWZA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 11, 2008, 06:00:26 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:00:30 PM
if i were cindy.... i would be hospitolized and on a tranq drip right now...
i honestly dont know how they go on... i surely purely do NOT...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.


perhaps.... but does he have EVIDENCE of that? does he have a WITNESS that has made a STATEMENT to that?

i havent seen it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 11, 2008, 06:02:30 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Now that was funny.  Thanks for the laugh...we all need one right now and I  really doubt HE cares how you spell his name as long as you know who HE is.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kiwi on December 11, 2008, 06:02:36 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Side note the meter guy was looking for a place to relieve himself and noticed the bag. Maybe that thought should be used by searchers in the future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 06:02:37 PM
Missing Persons - High Profile / Caylee Marie Anthony / Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #71  on: Today at 04:55:33 PM 

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I wonder in which direction George went when taking those "venting" walks of his.


From last thread...sorry for the repeat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:02:45 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.

Thanks for the info. Sorry about the Spartan thing ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink:: Just kidding. All of my in-laws are Spartans!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: N2WISHN on December 11, 2008, 06:02:49 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.


I'm on central time and Mike Gallanos show is having it's second hour, which is a repeat of the first hour, right now on cnn headline news. You might be able to see it now depending on your cable company schedule.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 11, 2008, 06:03:08 PM
That hotel have surveillance cameras ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:03:08 PM
Okay - I know I've been delinquent - but are the Anthony's back from Cali?  Were they allowed in their house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 06:03:24 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 06:05:10 PM
Thanks Bearly - I was busy wrapping xmas presents  ::MonkeyHaHa::

YW!  I was afraid I would have performance anxiety.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 06:05:20 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 11, 2008, 06:06:10 PM
Okay - I know I've been delinquent - but are the Anthony's back from Cali?  Were they allowed in their house?

Yes, they are back...I don't think they are being allowed in tonight...I guess that means the OCSO will be putting them up in a hotel for the night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 06:06:18 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

One hour of listening to Cindy Anthony tapes!!!  <----hell!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 06:07:21 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

Yes, he's done a couple intervews today and so has Tim Miller


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:07:33 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.

I'm from Michigan too! I can't believe the parking lot thing LP is saying! That's absolutely huge and he never stated this before??? Come on!! It throws GA statements off and would have been very important to this investigation!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:08:47 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.


perhaps.... but does he have EVIDENCE of that? does he have a WITNESS that has made a STATEMENT to that?

i havent seen it...

LP was on NG recently and said Caylee was killed around 1:30 a.m. on the morning of the 16th.    He seemed so certain of it.  I don't recall that he gave details as to how he knew.  Possibly we are hearing it today.

Although it has been hoped that Caylee's remains would be found it is jolting and sad just the same.

May that sweet baby Caylee rest in peace.


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:08:48 PM
That hotel have surveillance cameras ?

heh... now wouldnt THAT just be SPECIAL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!

DOLCE what do Utility workers in your area wear, do they wear vests? I was wondering if this is a picture of the worker or someone else...

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,4590,00.html#3_0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 11, 2008, 06:09:20 PM
I just think about Caylee being in a trash bag so close to home and Cindy asking Casey about Caylee every day for 31 days.  She heard her name over and over those 31 days and knew she was in a trash bag and yet she partied on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:09:30 PM
I wonder if they will cancel their request now for LP to have a polygraph test done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 06:09:37 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: O4Bull on December 11, 2008, 06:10:38 PM


Did anybody just hear that Judge(N) say the search warrant says to him that the bag probably hasn't been there all along???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 06:10:39 PM
Trial end of 2009 beginning of 2010?   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:12:04 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.


perhaps.... but does he have EVIDENCE of that? does he have a WITNESS that has made a STATEMENT to that?

i havent seen it...

LP was on NG recently and said Caylee was killed around 1:30 a.m. on the morning of the 16th.    He seemed so certain of it.  I don't recall that he gave details as to how he knew.  Possibly we are hearing it today.

Although it has been hoped that Caylee's remains would be found it is jolting and sad just the same.

May that sweet baby Caylee rest in peace.


 

YEAH... well he said she was in the RIVER too.... i would want more EVIDENCE than just padillas word..
not that i dont like watchin the guy.. he IS entertaining!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:13:16 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 06:14:19 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::
LOL  I saw that...I just thought you were of a different religion.  LOL

YOWZA!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:14:23 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:14:40 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

oddly enough... that is JUST what i was thinking....
I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 06:15:13 PM
Baez just pulled up to his office.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 06:15:20 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!

DOLCE what do Utility workers in your area wear, do they wear vests? I was wondering if this is a picture of the worker or someone else...

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,4590,00.html#3_0
I do not know what they wear quite honestly.  I live in SWFL nearly 5 hours from Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:15:41 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ouch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:16:10 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

Channel 6 just reported that George and Cindy were told BEFORE they boarded the plane in California that remains had been found. They boarded 7 AM in California (10 AM east coast time.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2008, 06:17:31 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..

If this is true, then they will just continue to spew that Casey is innocent, if police looked for a 'live' Caylee she would not have died :roll: , Zanny did it, whoever killed Caylee moved her body 'close to home' to make it look like Casey did it, blah.........blah........blah...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 06:18:39 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:19:02 PM
Any chance the Larry King show tomorrow night with the As is simply a repeat of the show last night?  I sure hope so. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:19:08 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: EverySunset on December 11, 2008, 06:19:38 PM
Finally! I am so glad that they found her, so slore can be convicted & Caylee can have her burial and resting place. I am, however very saddened. I knew she was no longer with us, but I still feel like crying. I think I am sad and relieved all at the same time. Caylee has been found and for that I am grateful, but I am so f*ck*ng angry at Casey. She hurt the baby and threw her out like trash. She is disgusting. Thanks to all the monkeys who have worked so hard for Caylee and others. I know you will continue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:19:48 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:20:11 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

Channel 6 just reported that George and Cindy were told BEFORE they boarded the plane in California that remains had been found. They boarded 7 AM in California (10 AM east coast time.)


over twenty five years ago.... i was on a plane after the news that my baby nephew (one of twins) had died from SIDS.... i have a FIERCE recollection of crying that ENTIRE trip from phx az to texas.... but i could NOT tell you ANYTHING else but that i cried...
i dont remember getting on the plane... going to the airport...or getting OFF the plane.. i only remember crying...


i dont ENVY anyone that flight.... even the anthonys...:(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:20:19 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

works for me!
I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary Ann on December 11, 2008, 06:20:26 PM
The thing that pisses me off the most is the duct tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 06:20:54 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

works for me!
I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??

Oops. messed that one up.... Intended to say "that works for me"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 06:22:05 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

I understand Lee was at the courthouse this morning.  Mallory is said to have been feeding the dogs while the Anthony's where in California.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: thirdstrike on December 11, 2008, 06:22:14 PM
Finally! I am so glad that they found her, so slore can be convicted & Caylee can have her burial and resting place. I am, however very saddened. I knew she was no longer with us, but I still feel like crying. I think I am sad and relieved all at the same time. Caylee has been found and for that I am grateful, but I am so f*ck*ng angry at Casey. She hurt the baby and threw her out like trash. She is disgusting. Thanks to all the monkeys who have worked so hard for Caylee and others. I know you will continue.

Agreed Sunset!  It's a sad day really.  At least the Devil that is Casey Anthony will receive her just due now.  Tragic story of a cosmetically beautiful family destroyed by violence and anger...:(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??
I've been thinking about that all day, perhaps around her neck.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:23:07 PM
The thing that pisses me off the most is the duct tape.

We all agree with you Mary Ann. To have duct tape put on the mouth or even wrapped around the head, if she was awake and aware is a phobic nightmare for anyone, let alone a small 2 year old who trusted her Mommy to the bitter end.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: da sparkenator on December 11, 2008, 06:23:38 PM
Does anyone know if LP has made a statement today?

hey mgo blue I'm an East Lansing Spartan!


he was on the Mike Gallanos show.  He talked about Casey pacing outside of at a hotel at 1:50am on the morning of the 16th of June, which makes George's statement about seeing them that morning a lie.

I'm a spartan as well!

Karen

I'm from Michigan too! I can't believe the parking lot thing LP is saying! That's absolutely huge and he never stated this before??? Come on!! It throws GA statements off and would have been very important to this investigation!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: thirdstrike on December 11, 2008, 06:24:03 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

I was thinking the same thing Red.  The bodu must have been moved by the rising water levels and rested once they receeded.  We just have to thank God for hikers and hunters then...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary Ann on December 11, 2008, 06:24:25 PM
But Boo, we can rest comfortably knowing that Dr G has her body now, and God has her soul.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:24:30 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??
I was wondering about possible cross too Boo.  Do you think she would leave an identifiable item with Caylee, or do you think she might have thought the cross if, found, could not be traced back to her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 06:24:42 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 06:26:01 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:26:18 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Hi can! LTNS

Yes, Lee was reportedly at the pre-trial hearing this morning.

About Mallory, she reportedly goes by to tend to the dogs when needed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:26:33 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..

If this is true, then they will just continue to spew that Casey is innocent, if police looked for a 'live' Caylee she would not have died :roll: , Zanny did it, whoever killed Caylee moved her body 'close to home' to make it look like Casey did it, blah.........blah........blah...

i am so afraid of that happening... it would be such a tragedy...
if ANYTHING, it would be better to get the TRUTH out... even in a *gasp* book... to shed some light on what happened... what could have been done... what HELP could have been given (not monetary or looking the other way.. but MENTAL health help)

i dont believe that will happen tho...
i think the family will be torn apart.... i think george will jump ship  ... i believe that cindy will be a basketcase trying to keep up the pretense of NORMALCY...  i think lee will have lost EVERYONE....


somehow... i wish they could all just tell the TRUTH now... accept any  responsibility... and do the right thing in CAYLEES HONOR...


but i am a cynical wench.... and i DONT believe in the tooth faery ....:(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 06:27:35 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wasn't it reported that the skull was outside of the bag??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 06:27:37 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 06:27:51 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Nawwwww.. Just stay away from lightening bolts.  Heh.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2008, 06:28:12 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: thirdstrike on December 11, 2008, 06:28:14 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........

I'm not a huge Nancy Grace fan at all.  Actually, I think she's rather abrasive and annoying.  But in this case, I have to commend her on her dedication and effort regarding little Caylee.  She has my respect...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 11, 2008, 06:28:22 PM
Interesting to see how my neighborhood is going to react I'm right here on the Quantico Base hubby is a Marine


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:28:52 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wasn't it reported that the skull was outside of the bag??
That's what I was just reading, but I thought originally when the man picked up the bag the skull fell out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:29:28 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........

WHAT? NO BOMBSHELL? NO BREAKING NEWS? just sadness?
i guess the reality of it ... brings back memories of nancy graces OWN loss of her fiance' years ago... who was murdered.....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: O4Bull on December 11, 2008, 06:29:37 PM
did anyone else hear Judge Napaliano(sp?) say he thinks the body/bag was not there before and that's why they may be searching the home?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:29:37 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

I understand Lee was at the courthouse this morning.  Mallory is said to have been feeding the dogs while the Anthony's where in California.

Thank you Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:30:02 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..

If this is true, then they will just continue to spew that Casey is innocent, if police looked for a 'live' Caylee she would not have died :roll: , Zanny did it, whoever killed Caylee moved her body 'close to home' to make it look like Casey did it, blah.........blah........blah...
Amen!  IMO - They are getting their new story straight as we blog!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 06:30:45 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:31:01 PM
did anyone else hear Judge Napaliano(sp?) say he thinks the body/bag was not there before and that's why they may be searching the home?

Have not heard this. Who is this Judge?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 06:31:39 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: AZSunny on December 11, 2008, 06:32:29 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:32:31 PM
did anyone else hear Judge Napaliano(sp?) say he thinks the body/bag was not there before and that's why they may be searching the home?
No  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:32:47 PM
Interesting to see how my neighborhood is going to react I'm right here on the Quantico Base hubby is a Marine

hey there, fellow Virginian!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 06:34:43 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wasn't it reported that the skull was outside of the bag??

What I just heard on the news was that the skull fell from the bag when the bag was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 06:34:43 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW

Sheriff Beary avoided the question when asked about dental records.  So maybe they have dental records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:34:53 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW

Who announced that the remains could be identified by this evening??

Sheriff Beary said one to two weeks.

Big difference there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Nawwwww.. Just stay away from lightening bolts.  Heh.   ::MonkeyTongue::

First he loses his train, and then his soul.   Tch Tch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 11, 2008, 06:35:55 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:36:02 PM
On myfoxorlando the reporter said she talked to Dominic Casey(sp) and what was said between the two it sounds like the Anthonys are believing this is CAYLEE..
Well a big fat "DUH" goes out to Cindy from me!
Well Thank God.....maybe it is finally starting to sink through her think skull.......I was afraid it would take God himself to tell her before she would finally believe.....and if she keeps up with all the lies, it is very highly unlikely she will ever see Gad..

I think they must have some very concrete evidence in order for the Anthony's to accept this. I don't think Cindy would be accepting unless there's something...clothes, toys, something from the house in the bag... a body be itself would not be enough for her....JMO

How about that much speculated about cross necklace that could have been purchased at JCPenny's??
I was wondering about possible cross too Boo.  Do you think she would leave an identifiable item with Caylee, or do you think she might have thought the cross if, found, could not be traced back to her?

My thought is that she never thought it would be traced back to her. It was something she purchased recently, no one had seen it, so in her mind, how would they tie it to her??? Probably never even thought about the receipts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 06:36:23 PM
Padilla DID say on HeadLine News that Casey was seen at a hotel parking lot at 1:50 AM on June 16th and that she was pacing and no baby was seen with her at all. He said that she didn't have a place to go that night either and that she had left with Caylee the night before that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:36:37 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.
Yes Red, I've heard you mention happenstance before...and thank goodness this occurred today as additional evidence to nail a conviction.

I feel for that poor man, who will always have the nightmare of finding a little one's remains. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 11, 2008, 06:36:37 PM
Fox is now backing up on the No Clothes found with body report.

So like always being in a hurry to get info can get some wrong reports..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 11, 2008, 06:36:44 PM
Interesting to see how my neighborhood is going to react I'm right here on the Quantico Base hubby is a Marine

hey there, fellow Virginian!   ::MonkeyCool::
Hey Brandi were in VA are you as you know I'm here at Quantico


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2008, 06:37:20 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area

*this report also says the man picked up the bag and bones/skull fell out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:37:33 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW

Who announced that the remains could be identified by this evening??

Sheriff Beary said one to two weeks.

Big difference there.


that IS a HUGE difference! YES! who said it might happen this evening? link HH? tia!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 06:38:45 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW

Sheriff Beary avoided the question when asked about dental records.  So maybe they have dental records.
I am going to double that WOW! 

(Sidebar: I am too busy keeping up with this case, can I get an accountant monkey over here to help me balance this bank statement)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: pinkbanana on December 11, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
Is it true about remains being found? My called me at work from Fl telling me this is what she saw on the News.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyShocked::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 11, 2008, 06:39:31 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area

*this report also says the man picked up the bag and bones/skull fell out.

I would have had a heart attack if that happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 06:39:40 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 06:40:07 PM
Interesting to see how my neighborhood is going to react I'm right here on the Quantico Base hubby is a Marine

hey there, fellow Virginian!   ::MonkeyCool::
Hey Brandi were in VA are you as you know I'm here at Quantico

Just outside of Richmond.

Sorry for the O/T folks!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/monkeyginger2.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:40:11 PM
Padilla DID say on HeadLine News that Casey was seen at a hotel parking lot at 1:50 AM on June 16th and that she was pacing and no baby was seen with her at all. He said that she didn't have a place to go that night either and that she had left with Caylee the night before that.
Oh good, I thought that is what I heard. Have you ever heard him say this before?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: stayhomemommy on December 11, 2008, 06:40:24 PM
What if the duct tape was holding a rag or cotton bandage or such which had chloroform on it? Possile this is how she assured she stayed asleep? Just wondering.

Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
Nancy Grace is very upset and almost crying when she was talking in the interview......She said the Anthony's are gonna have to face the facts and come to terms that Casey killed their GD and dumped her body almost in their own back yard......it is so so sad................


   The Anthonys will not be allowed back inside their home tonight, the LE wants to be able to search it without any disturbances..........
We knew it was coming but what a sad sad day.... Thanks for the info HH.

And thanks to those who answered my tape question, I guess.
They also just announced that the remains could be identified as early as late this evening.....wow,,,   thats fast.....they must have made sure this was top priority!!!!Ill  be glas when they can say 1oo%.....I know we already know its Caylee, I just want the LE to say without a doubt.....100%..........

WOW

Who announced that the remains could be identified by this evening??

Sheriff Beary said one to two weeks.

Big difference there.
The reporter on channel 6 said they were just told this from the Lab where they took the body....I dont know the reporters name , but that statement just jumpede out at me and I was like WHOA!!!!!!!!!!thats fast......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
The autopsy will be interesting to see if the neck bones are intact. KC did google neck breaking.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wasn't it reported that the skull was outside of the bag??
That's what I was just reading, but I thought originally when the man picked up the bag the skull fell out.

I'm medically illiterate...would the skull be disattached at this point?

any nurses...doctors...medical students..just really smart people? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 11, 2008, 06:41:13 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.
From the looks of the original picture/map, it looked like the body was was pretty far into the woods (relatively). I thought it was odd the meter reader was that far in the woods! (thus "Gos" worked in mysterious ways!  ::MonkeyShocked::)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 11, 2008, 06:42:54 PM
Medical examiners would probably look at photos of the child along with the skull, hoping to make a bone structure comparison, said Dr. Lee Jantz, coordinator of the forensic anthropology center at the University of Tennessee.

Dr. Bill Manion, a pathologist and an assistant medical examiner for Burlington County, N.J., said DNA testing could determine an identification even without other DNA from the victim, "as long as we know who the parents are or siblings."


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/10/national/a062950S88.DTL&tsp=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
What if the duct tape was holding a rag or cotton bandage or such which had chloroform on it? Possile this is how she assured she stayed asleep? Just wondering.

Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


That could be, and maybe a rag was found in the bag. Hope your little boy is feeling better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 06:43:37 PM
Good evening monkeys's

Did they find caylee? Just got home from work... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: stayhomemommy on December 11, 2008, 06:43:55 PM

From the looks of the original picture/map, it looked like the body was was pretty far into the woods (relatively). I thought it was odd the meter reader was that far in the woods! (thus "Gos" worked in mysterious ways!  ::MonkeyShocked::)
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I think I read he was taking a bathroom break....this is probably why he was so far in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 06:43:59 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.



Didn't the findings on the hair with the deathband say something like the decomp showed a lack of oxygen? That is just making me even more sad thinking what Caylee went through.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 06:45:11 PM
Padilla DID say on HeadLine News that Casey was seen at a hotel parking lot at 1:50 AM on June 16th and that she was pacing and no baby was seen with her at all. He said that she didn't have a place to go that night either and that she had left with Caylee the night before that.
Oh good, I thought that is what I heard. Have you ever heard him say this before?

yep they replayed.

Also I am going to streaming Jane Valez Mitchell in 20 minutes. Nancy Grace is supposed to be on her show tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 06:45:14 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: stayhomemommy on December 11, 2008, 06:45:36 PM
What if the duct tape was holding a rag or cotton bandage or such which had chloroform on it? Possile this is how she assured she stayed asleep? Just wondering.

Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


That could be, and maybe a rag was found in the bag. Hope your little boy is feeling better.

I pray there is enough other evidence in that bag to convict her. I really do. And thanks. My little guy is sleeping right now. He's been exposed to mono at preschool (he's only 3!) and we think that's it, but waiting for test results. Thanks again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 06:46:36 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.



Didn't the findings on the hair with the deathband say something like the decomp showed a lack of oxygen? That is just making me even more sad thinking what Caylee went through.

The lack of oxygen had to do with the way the body was stored, not the manner of death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Magic Eyes on December 11, 2008, 06:46:44 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

Hmmmm.......20 feet from the road.  Makes you wonder how long it has been there.  This is right by an elementary school with lots of little inquisitive, poking lil children around.  Hard to believe it was never seen in all this time.  Either it was well hidden and very hard to see or maybe place there recently?   We know where Casey has been, Cindy, George and Lee better hope they didn't leave any evidence on that bag...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: irishbosoxfan on December 11, 2008, 06:46:51 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Side note the meter guy was looking for a place to relieve himself and noticed the bag. Maybe that thought should be used by searchers in the future.

I wonder if he's of German descent and if he has any sheep.

I so hope that this is her--I think it is given that there's no other missing children in the area and the proximity to the house and it sickens me that this b*tch let her sit there and rot for 6 months

I think back to the visitation with Lee and she told him to look in a place that has meaning to her and him then adds to the family--I think she may have been trying to clue him in as to where she was and then when she got out on bail it was flooded and they couldn't get in there and as the time passed they figured she was deteriorated and unfindable


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 06:47:32 PM
What if the duct tape was holding a rag or cotton bandage or such which had chloroform on it? Possile this is how she assured she stayed asleep? Just wondering.

Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


That could be, and maybe a rag was found in the bag. Hope your little boy is feeling better.

I pray there is enough other evidence in that bag to convict her. I really do. And thanks. My little guy is sleeping right now. He's been exposed to mono at preschool (he's only 3!) and we think that's it, but waiting for test results. Thanks again.

MY oldest had mono at 2! So I have been there hope he feels better soon!! Sorry for the o/t


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 06:47:47 PM
GOOD EVENING ALL!!

i read on one of the Orlando sites that the meter reader saw the bag, opened it, realized it was a child's remains & then called LE. They said the skull was found nearby. I don't know if this is correct info as I have seem upteen news items today!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: txlisa on December 11, 2008, 06:48:24 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

The live stream I saw looked like she was pregnant.  She is just "fluffy".

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Side note the meter guy was looking for a place to relieve himself and noticed the bag. Maybe that thought should be used by searchers in the future.

I wonder if he's of German descent and if he has any sheep.

I so hope that this is her--I think it is given that there's no other missing children in the area and the proximity to the house and it sickens me that this b*tch let her sit there and rot for 6 months

I think back to the visitation with Lee and she told him to look in a place that has meaning to her and him then adds to the family--I think she may have been trying to clue him in as to where she was and then when she got out on bail it was flooded and they couldn't get in there and as the time passed they figured she was deteriorated and unfindable
That sounds very likely.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 11, 2008, 06:49:16 PM
I wonder if they can pin-point time of death from bones only? I wouldn't think they could estimate it any closer than a month or two.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 06:49:26 PM
Sorry if its been discussed or whatever but is it true the remains had tape on the mouth? ::MonkeyWaa:: Local attorney in my area repeated this. I dont know how accurate he is. Thanks in advance.
Hope the ot disappears for a bit now, lol.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just had a live report that said tape was around the skull....mouth area


You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.



Didn't the findings on the hair with the deathband say something like the decomp showed a lack of oxygen? That is just making me even more sad thinking what Caylee went through.

The lack of oxygen had to do with the way the body was stored, not the manner of death.

Oh, ok.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:50:46 PM
I wonder if they can pin-point time of death from bones only? I wouldn't think they could estimate it any closer than a month or two.

That's the Body Farm specialty ... will be interesting to see what their timeframe is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: irishbosoxfan on December 11, 2008, 06:51:19 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

Yeah I agree--she doesn't look pregnant at all--she's skinny and even with the baggy shirt on you'd think there'd be a bump but I'm not seeing it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 06:51:19 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

Hmmmm.......20 feet from the road.  Makes you wonder how long it has been there.  This is right by an elementary school with lots of little inquisitive, poking lil children around.  Hard to believe it was never seen in all this time.  Either it was well hidden and very hard to see or maybe place there recently?   We know where Casey has been, Cindy, George and Lee better hope they didn't leave any evidence on that bag...........


Someone from another board theorized that maybe George and Cindy's reasoning for going to California was so that they could have Lee plant the bag there and then it would look like they were not in town at the time so it couldn't then. Hence the reason for Casey having panick and anxiety attacks in the jail that she found out someone gave up the story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 06:51:40 PM
hmmmm. i had never SEEN this before..

"In a jailhouse visit in July, Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony’s brother, seemingly played the role of family detective, but she did not offer much information until he mentioned computer passwords.

“Any meaning behind the passwords that would be clues to any of this?” Lee Anthony asked.

“Yes,” Casey Anthony replied.

“Does that include the MySpace sign in passwords as well as the computer passwords?” Lee Anthony said.

“The computer passwords, no. MySpace and Facebook, yes,” Casey Anthony said.

“All right, so there is meaning behind those?” Lee Anthony said.

 ”Yes,” Casey Anthony said.

“Password for that is?” Lee Anthony asked.

“Cays234,” Casey Anthony said.

But less than an hour later, Casey Anthony gave her mother, Cindy Anthony, a different answer.

“I don’t know your MySpace password,” Cindy Anthony said.

“Facebook account (is) timer55 (and the) password is the same as my MySpace,” Casey Anthony said.

“I’ll let you elaborate if you want to. If not, it’s OK,” Lee Anthony said.

“Move on to something else. We’ll cover that by other means,” Casey Anthony said.

 The siblings met again in a jailhouse visit three days later, and Casey Anthony communicated with her brother via her attorney, Jose Baez.

“Do you got anything for me outside of what I’ve already heard?” Lee Anthony said.

“Did you guys get my messages from Jose?” Casey Anthony asked.

“Yes,” Lee Anthony said.

“That’s where I’m leaving it , so,” Casey Anthony said.

Two days later, on July 30, Cindy Anthony told the FBI that she had figured out her daughter’s password code for timer55.

“She told Lee the other day timer55 meant she has 55 days,” Cindy Anthony said.

 ”Fifty-five days from when, as Casey now claimed, mystery baby sitter Zenaida Gonzalez and her sister threw her down in Blanchard Park and took Caylee to teach her a lesson,” Pipitone said.

“Fifty-five days to Caylee’s birthday, and she said Caylee would be returned on her birthday,” Cindy Anthony said.

Caylee’s birthday is Aug. 9, which is 55 days after June 16, the day Casey Anthony was last seen with Caylee.

“And that, at least according to Cindy, was the secret code in Casey’s password,” Pipitone said.

Channel 6 News   5:53 am EST December 11, 2008"



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

Yeah I agree--she doesn't look pregnant at all--she's skinny and even with the baggy shirt on you'd think there'd be a bump but I'm not seeing it
On the live coverage today I really thought she looked pregnant ... and kinda had that waddle.  I've been wrong before ... will be again ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:52:55 PM
I wonder if they can pin-point time of death from bones only? I wouldn't think they could estimate it any closer than a month or two.

That's the Body Farm specialty ... will be interesting to see what their timeframe is.
That's amazing, it will be interesting to see what the timeframe is, I wonder how long that takes for them to do this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 06:53:01 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

Hmmmm.......20 feet from the road.  Makes you wonder how long it has been there.  This is right by an elementary school with lots of little inquisitive, poking lil children around.  Hard to believe it was never seen in all this time.  Either it was well hidden and very hard to see or maybe place there recently?   We know where Casey has been, Cindy, George and Lee better hope they didn't leave any evidence on that bag...........

A young man that lives across the street from the area said that this area is always waist deep in water in the summer, it is a swamp! This time of year the water goes down. It's likely that Casey just threw the bag out into the swamp as far as she could. Tim said you have to be in the right place at the right time. They searched the area but lots of the places were under water & they couldn't. Thank God this guy needed a pee break!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tater on December 11, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!
  The garbage bags could still be in use and sitting in their garage.The A's haven't been doing any yard work since the beginning of all this and if they were lawn bags like Hefty's and not simple garbage bags,they could still have one or two lying around...I think I might need sedating tonight for fear of sleeping and missing something.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: stayhomemommy on December 11, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
I pray there is enough other evidence in that bag to convict her. I really do. And thanks. My little guy is sleeping right now. He's been exposed to mono at preschool (he's only 3!) and we think that's it, but waiting for test results. Thanks again.

MY oldest had mono at 2! So I have been there hope he feels better soon!! Sorry for the o/t

Thanks. Wow, 2! It's so hard when they are so little and feel so bad. I just wish I could help him feel better. Anyway, yes, no more O/T for me either. Thanks to everyone for the well-wishes. :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

Yeah I agree--she doesn't look pregnant at all--she's skinny and even with the baggy shirt on you'd think there'd be a bump but I'm not seeing it

I don't think so either, if she is she's not that far along!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 06:54:26 PM
Hey Monkeys, I have been at work trying to keep up, but I just read something about LP saying Casey was pacing at a hotel on June 16th. Can someone PLEAAASSEE tell me what that is about? I am going to try and go back, but if someone could find it in their heart to tell me what that means I would really appreciate it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 06:55:53 PM
GOOD EVENING ALL!!

i read on one of the Orlando sites that the meter reader saw the bag, opened it, realized it was a child's remains & then called LE. They said the skull was found nearby. I don't know if this is correct info as I have seem upteen news items today!!  ::MonkeyEek::

Evenin' Monken... that's what I'd heard too..curious to know if the skull was seperate from the rest or dropped out of the bag when meter guy picked it up...also if skull would just seperate all by itself after this period of time..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 06:56:46 PM
I wonder if they can pin-point time of death from bones only? I wouldn't think they could estimate it any closer than a month or two.

That's the Body Farm specialty ... will be interesting to see what their timeframe is.
That's amazing, it will be interesting to see what the timeframe is, I wonder how long that takes for them to do this.
Hey No Rose, they can only tell time of death from either stomach contents or the temperature of the liver. At least that was what I was told.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:57:44 PM
Hey Monkeys, I have been at work trying to keep up, but I just read something about LP saying Casey was pacing at a hotel on June 16th. Can someone PLEAAASSEE tell me what that is about? I am going to try and go back, but if someone could find it in their heart to tell me what that means I would really appreciate it!
LP was on Headline News, saying that on June 15, after the fight with Cindy, Casey took off with Caylee, and Casey was seen pacing in a hotel parking lot without a child. In the early morning hours of the 16.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 06:57:44 PM
Hey Monkeys, I have been at work trying to keep up, but I just read something about LP saying Casey was pacing at a hotel on June 16th. Can someone PLEAAASSEE tell me what that is about? I am going to try and go back, but if someone could find it in their heart to tell me what that means I would really appreciate it!

I just heard him say that a few minutes ago! He never said it before!! Wonder how he knew that!!??? i don't know what it menas, but I'm sure he'll be on tonight & maybe he'll say more!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 06:58:03 PM
For those that want to listen to Jane Valez Mitchel(And Nancy Grace who is going to be a special guest)l discuss the Caylee Case but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it my chatroom. Nancy Grace will streamed right after so if you won't be able to see her either then you can listen to her as well. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 06:59:07 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

There is the fog of war and their is the fog of reporting. Distances are one of the most easily messed up reported things as no one ever has a sense of proportion. Less than a mile away from the Anthony home in an area that Casey would be familiar with. Hmm.

This is not Aruba ... there is no one in Orlando LE or govt that will provide a cover up.

No wonder Casey was crying today when Baez informed her that a child's body was found and where. Just out of curiosity, why would she have acted so badly if she thought Caylee was alive? Hmm? Casey automatically assumed it was Caylee.

There is no way a stranger (ie faux babysitter) would ever come that close to a residence to get rid of a body. They would have been unfamiliar with area and would never want to be seen accidentally.

Casey's ass is grass and the utility worker today provided the lawn mower.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 06:59:18 PM
Thanks Willen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
I wonder if they can pin-point time of death from bones only? I wouldn't think they could estimate it any closer than a month or two.

That's the Body Farm specialty ... will be interesting to see what their timeframe is.
That's amazing, it will be interesting to see what the timeframe is, I wonder how long that takes for them to do this.
Hey No Rose, they can only tell time of death from either stomach contents or the temperature of the liver. At least that was what I was told.
If you want it down to a number of hours that is correct.  Tennessee Body Farm has donated bodies laying around everywhere - over several acres - in all sorts of scenarios.  Under water (wrapped & unwrapped), in cars, in trunks, submerged in vehicles, etc etc etc.  They go check those bodies constantly and note decomp (taking temp and conditions into account) once they are down to bones - they check coloration and stuff.  I think they might be able to at least get it down to months if not weeks if she was really in a bag.  JMO of course.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 07:00:11 PM
GOOD EVENING ALL!!

i read on one of the Orlando sites that the meter reader saw the bag, opened it, realized it was a child's remains & then called LE. They said the skull was found nearby. I don't know if this is correct info as I have seem upteen news items today!!  ::MonkeyEek::

Evenin' Monken... that's what I'd heard too..curious to know if the skull was seperate from the rest or dropped out of the bag when meter guy picked it up...also if skull would just seperate all by itself after this period of time..



Hey there!!  ::MonkeyRoll:: i think it must have been seperated. There is no telling what that bag has been through the last 6 months!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pink angel on December 11, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
Does anyone know if the location of poor Caylee relates to her comment during her Jailhouse visit with Lee "on the bottom left hand side of town"?

Check things locally Lee, that's all I can tell you, places we are familiar with" Was she really trying to tell him where she was? It sure sounds like it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
Hey Monkeys, I have been at work trying to keep up, but I just read something about LP saying Casey was pacing at a hotel on June 16th. Can someone PLEAAASSEE tell me what that is about? I am going to try and go back, but if someone could find it in their heart to tell me what that means I would really appreciate it!
LP was on Headline News, saying that on June 15, after the fight with Cindy, Casey took off with Caylee, and Casey was seen pacing in a hotel parking lot without a child. In the early morning hours of the 16.
Wow. Thanks how come it is just coming out now? I HATE CASEY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 07:03:03 PM
Maybe since KC is being sedated, she will break down and admit what happened.  I can dream, can't I?   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:03:36 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:04:57 PM
Maybe since KC is being sedated, she will break down and admit what happened.  I can dream, can't I?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Certainly you can dream.  (Just don't expect it to be true when you wake up!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 07:05:08 PM
Does anyone know if the location of poor Caylee relates to her comment during her Jailhouse visit with Lee "on the bottom left hand side of town"?

Check things locally Lee, that's all I can tell you, places we are familiar with" Was she really trying to tell him where she was? It sure sounds like it.


I would be interested to know, too, pink angel.  It sounds like it to me, too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 07:05:18 PM
About 9:30am, an Orange County water meter reader, who had gone into the woods to relieve himself, discovered a bag about 20 to 30 feet off the sidewalk in the area of Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive (see map), around three-tenths of a mile from the Anthonys' home (map from location to Anthonys' home).

According to information obtained by Eyewitness News, when the meter reader kicked or picked up the bag, a skull fell out. The Orange County Sheriff's Office has confirmed the remains are from a young child. Investigative sources told Eyewitness News there may have been more in the bag than just a skull but they wouldn't elaborate.

"We are assuming they are the remains of a victim," said Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons.

It is not known whether the remains are those of Caylee Anthony.

Deputies set up a perimeter near a small retention pond. Heavy rain pounded the scene, making the investigation more difficult. FBI agents and agents from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement were also on the scene.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said the area had been underwater during previous searches, so it was not surprising the remains hadn't been found before (watch Beary press conference). Equusearch founder Tim Miller, who heads up a group that searches for bodies, said his volunteers had searched the area before but that it was full of water and an ATV had stirred up mud and muck and made visibility poor.

Wasn't there a witness who knows Casey  stated he seen Casey one morning jogging down Chickasaw trail... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Hi can! LTNS

Yes, Lee was reportedly at the pre-trial hearing this morning.

About Mallory, she reportedly goes by to tend to the dogs when needed.


Hi Brandi and thank you!.  Just figured out what LTNS means - finding it difficult to keep up lately and have been spending a lot of time reading at Natalee's thread and hoping justice will come for Natalee and her family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
OMG the Nancy Grace wanna be Gremlin Girl hasn't got her facts straight. She just yelled at a reporter saying Wait Wait Wait, what duct tape?? No one said anything about duct tape!!

Where the hell is Nancy???   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 07:08:39 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

There is the fog of war and their is the fog of reporting. Distances are one of the most easily messed up reported things as no one ever has a sense of proportion. Less than a mile away from the Anthony home in an area that Casey would be familiar with. Hmm.

This is not Aruba ... there is no one in Orlando LE or govt that will provide a cover up.

No wonder Casey was crying today when Baez informed her that a child's body was found and where. Just out of curiosity, why would she have acted so badly if she thought Caylee was alive? Hmm? Casey automatically assumed it was Caylee.

There is no way a stranger (ie faux babysitter) would ever come that close to a residence to get rid of a body. They would have been unfamiliar with area and would never want to be seen accidentally.

Casey's ass is grass and the utility worker today provided the lawn mower.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
For those that want to listen to Jane Valez Mitchel(And Nancy Grace who is going to be a special guest)l discuss the Caylee Case but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it my chatroom. Nancy Grace will streamed right after so if you won't be able to see her either then you can listen to her as well. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:11:30 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

There is the fog of war and their is the fog of reporting. Distances are one of the most easily messed up reported things as no one ever has a sense of proportion. Less than a mile away from the Anthony home in an area that Casey would be familiar with. Hmm.

This is not Aruba ... there is no one in Orlando LE or govt that will provide a cover up.

No wonder Casey was crying today when Baez informed her that a child's body was found and where. Just out of curiosity, why would she have acted so badly if she thought Caylee was alive? Hmm? Casey automatically assumed it was Caylee.

There is no way a stranger (ie faux babysitter) would ever come that close to a residence to get rid of a body. They would have been unfamiliar with area and would never want to be seen accidentally.

Casey's ass is grass and the utility worker today provided the lawn mower.
Red I am fairly new to this website, but I would like to thank you so much for all you do for the missing. I just wish I had known about SM when Natalee was missing. Again thank you and all Monkeys! God Bless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:11:51 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 11, 2008, 07:13:23 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe they're lurking like me.

Howdy Boo.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:13:55 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:14:28 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::

I AM here! BUT i am fried... trying to watch different channels... different websites... while trying to read that CASEY/LEE code...


did she WANT them to find the remains? dispose of further? tell them what she couldnt SAY outloud... but wanted them to know? to have lee help her out?

why? why why WHY???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:14:55 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe they're lurking like me.

Howdy Boo.  ::MonkeyWink::

Hey BT, I hit refresh like 5 times and the board didn't move! I thought everyone left and forgot to tell me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 11, 2008, 07:15:49 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.

I find it odd that the Anthonys have not been visiting Casey in jail on a regular basis. I know people who have a family member in prison, and they're there every chance they get.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:16:31 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::
Hey boo. Joe and I are here. Terribly sad news, but I am truly glad they found her. I hope KC fries like a tater tot! She makes me ABSOLUTELY sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:16:41 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.


WELL... i THOUGHT i read or saw that they were taking them to spend the nite at a hotel... but perhaps they wanted to "question " them further.... or uh.. ahem... keep them in the loop of what they knew or what was happening....

read:keep them from having a circus around them.... and having to control crowds


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: guideposts on December 11, 2008, 07:18:34 PM

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.
From the looks of the original picture/map, it looked like the body was was pretty far into the woods (relatively). I thought it was odd the meter reader was that far in the woods! (thus "Gos" worked in mysterious ways!  ::MonkeyShocked::)

If I were the meter reader and had to go, I'd make sure I went that far into the woods, especially since it's located so close to a school.  I wouldn't want to be accused of exposing myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:19:23 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.

I find it odd that the Anthonys have not been visiting Casey in jail on a regular basis. I know people who have a family member in prison, and they're there every chance they get.



yanno... that has ALWAYS bothered me... i mean... sure.. they were afraid that anything they said could be used against them...or her.. but still...
they cant use I LOVE YOU HONEY...  against her... they could go in and talk about the fricken WEATHER ... they could talk about how much they LOVE caylee....


but to not go at ALL?

THAT bothers me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on December 11, 2008, 07:19:24 PM
OMG,OMG, OMG  Please tell me it is true.     ::MonkeyEek::  I jsut heard the news I am going back to read..... Who fournd her and what time was it.   Please, God, let it be her se she can rest in peace finally and KC can fry...... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 07:19:36 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 07:19:37 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.


Newfie - so the pregnancy rumors were true.  Thank you.  Are you a Newfie - as in from Newfoundland?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:19:59 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.
I hope they took them to the jail to see their precious angel. Are the Ants still saying it isn't Caylee. I felt sorry for them in the begining, but after all the lies, I truly don't feel sorry for a one of them. Only Caylee and her great grandparents do I feel sorry for.


WELL... i THOUGHT i read or saw that they were taking them to spend the nite at a hotel... but perhaps they wanted to "question " them further.... or uh.. ahem... keep them in the loop of what they knew or what was happening....

read:keep them from having a circus around them.... and having to control crowds


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 07:20:45 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::
Hey boo. Joe and I are here. Terribly sad news, but I am truly glad they found her. I hope KC fries like a tater tot! She makes me ABSOLUTELY sick!


 :smt045  :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 07:21:09 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.

I find it odd that the Anthonys have not been visiting Casey in jail on a regular basis. I know people who have a family member in prison, and they're there every chance they get.

Maybe they were waiting for her to be in the Big House? They will have plenty of time in the not so near future to be visiting her at Shawshank.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:21:45 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!
That was my exact thought this morning. They will blame the poor guy that just had to go pee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: EverySunset on December 11, 2008, 07:21:47 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:22:03 PM

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.
From the looks of the original picture/map, it looked like the body was was pretty far into the woods (relatively). I thought it was odd the meter reader was that far in the woods! (thus "Gos" worked in mysterious ways!  ::MonkeyShocked::)

If I were the meter reader and had to go, I'd make sure I went that far into the woods, especially since it's located so close to a school.  I wouldn't want to be accused of exposing myself.

heh... aint THAT the truth! i am not afraid of being accused of exposing myself... but i SWEAR, when i walk around our twenty acres... full of trees and brush... i SWEAR everytime i ...ahem... stop to  *cough cough* uh.. POWDER MY NOSE, i see a car go by and its in PLAIN VIEW....*L*....

NEEDLESS to say... i dont walk very far anymore *L*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: guideposts on December 11, 2008, 07:22:40 PM

You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


Is there a possibility that the duct tape was put on after death?  Perhaps there is a laceration in the head area and Casey wants to make sure no body fluids drip out, so she wraps the duct tape all the way around the head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 11, 2008, 07:23:07 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.

I find it odd that the Anthonys have not been visiting Casey in jail on a regular basis. I know people who have a family member in prison, and they're there every chance they get.

Maybe they were waiting for her to be in the Big House? They will have plenty of time in the not so near future to be visiting her at Shawshank.  ::MonkeyWink::

If she makes it through her first year in prison!  I so hope she isn't segregated!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 11, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
Gadzooks! I mis-typed "God" in the last thread!!!! I'm going to Hell.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

How many times do we hear of hikers and hunters finding bodies?

From what I am hearing it was not that too far off the road. Also, please keep this in mind. It is highly believable that this bag moved in the water from its original place of hiding.

I had posted this earlier ... think this guy ever believed his day would wind up like it did when he woke up this morning? A day of reading meters to talking to the FBI in one of the most high profile missing cases in recent history.

Red,  I just heard it was only some 20 feet from the road.  Early they were talking 50 feet.

There is the fog of war and their is the fog of reporting. Distances are one of the most easily messed up reported things as no one ever has a sense of proportion. Less than a mile away from the Anthony home in an area that Casey would be familiar with. Hmm.

This is not Aruba ... there is no one in Orlando LE or govt that will provide a cover up.

No wonder Casey was crying today when Baez informed her that a child's body was found and where. Just out of curiosity, why would she have acted so badly if she thought Caylee was alive? Hmm? Casey automatically assumed it was Caylee.

There is no way a stranger (ie faux babysitter) would ever come that close to a residence to get rid of a body. They would have been unfamiliar with area and would never want to be seen accidentally.

Casey's ass is grass and the utility worker today provided the lawn mower.

From your lips to God's ear.

But you made spit coffee at my 'puter screen.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:23:40 PM
Where is everybody?  ::MonkeyEek::
Hey boo. Joe and I are here. Terribly sad news, but I am truly glad they found her. I hope KC fries like a tater tot! She makes me ABSOLUTELY sick!


 :smt045  :smt045
Hi Trimm. I am so tired tonight. I actually had to work today. I hate them all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 11, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!
That was my exact thought this morning. They will blame the poor guy that just had to go pee.

I truly feel sorry for the poor man. Not only has he been traumatized by finding the remains of a young child, but now his only claim to fame will be the morning he had to go in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 11, 2008, 07:24:27 PM

You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


Is there a possibility that the duct tape was put on after death?  Perhaps there is a laceration in the head area and Casey wants to make sure no body fluids drip out, so she wraps the duct tape all the way around the head.

I wonder if she fractured Caylees skull?  Terrible to think about, but I wonder if she did kill her in a fit of rage?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:24:48 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html

Yes, saw that earlier today. Made me want to puke. He reminds me of the Leave Britney Alone person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 07:25:08 PM
For those of you just finding out about the body found today there are several videos on the right hand side of this website:

http://www.wftv.com/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 11, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
For those of you just finding out about the body found today there are several videos on the right hand side of this website:

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

Thanks Klaas.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 07:26:07 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Until tomorrow...doesn't she have a TV special to do for Dateline tomorrow?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 07:26:45 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!
That was my exact thought this morning. They will blame the poor guy that just had to go pee.

You know she is working on her next little spin right now...just like Red said.They'll have somebody to blame.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 11, 2008, 07:27:56 PM
That Dr. on Nancy Grace, is weird. He'd scare the crap out of me! He just looks skeeeery!

Nancy will be on in just a few minutes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 07:27:57 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Until tomorrow...doesn't she have a TV special to do for Dateline tomorrow?  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 07:28:02 PM

You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


Is there a possibility that the duct tape was put on after death?  Perhaps there is a laceration in the head area and Casey wants to make sure no body fluids drip out, so she wraps the duct tape all the way around the head.

I had that same thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 07:29:08 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!
That was my exact thought this morning. They will blame the poor guy that just had to go pee.

I truly feel sorry for the poor man. Not only has he been traumatized by finding the remains of a young child, but now his only claim to fame will be the morning he had to go in the woods.

Cindy has managed to implicate everyone that has come into contact with her daughter, this man will be no different.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:29:16 PM

You can't just put duct tape around somebody's head to cover their mouth unless you are sure their nasal passages are clear enough for them to breathe.  A stopped up nose or runny nose from a child crying will block nasal passages and the person can suffocate.


Is there a possibility that the duct tape was put on after death?  Perhaps there is a laceration in the head area and Casey wants to make sure no body fluids drip out, so she wraps the duct tape all the way around the head.

I wonder if she fractured Caylees skull?  Terrible to think about, but I wonder if she did kill her in a fit of rage?

Lisa
I don't know. Casey is DUMB. If fluid was leaking, duct tape isn't going to stick to a wet surface. Especially body fluids. Think about when you try to put a bandaid on a wet finger. It won't stick. Now try and put the bandaid on a bloody finger. It will slide compeletely off and never stick. Does that make sense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 07:30:11 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html

Yes, saw that earlier today. Made me want to puke. He reminds me of the Leave Britney Alone person.

Typical deranged stalker fan. And for Casey of all people!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought he was mental everytime I saw him insert himself in front of the cameras.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:31:20 PM
i guess it wasnt PIZZA in the trunk...
i guess it wasnt SQUIRRELS
i guess it wasnt something my DAD hit and stuck to the grill...

i guess it wasnt SOMEBODY ELSES body in the trunk...


i guess its time to  realize that your sweet.. darling... adorable....precious  baby granddaughter is GONE..

and no amount of lying will bring her back..



i guess it is bittersweet that the LAST momento of caylee... is singing YOU ARE MY SUNSHINE to cindys dad...

of COURSE ITS RAINING!!! YOU TOOK THE SUNSHINE AWAY..


gah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.
I hope they took them to the jail to see their precious angel. Are the Ants still saying it isn't Caylee. I felt sorry for them in the begining, but after all the lies, I truly don't feel sorry for a one of them. Only Caylee and her great grandparents do I feel sorry for.


WELL... i THOUGHT i read or saw that they were taking them to spend the nite at a hotel... but perhaps they wanted to "question " them further.... or uh.. ahem... keep them in the loop of what they knew or what was happening....

read:keep them from having a circus around them.... and having to control crowds


Passengers who were on the flight said the Anthonys were calm and wore their "Find Caylee" t-shirts. They were met by deputies at the gate and whisked away.

The couple did not immediately return to their home. Sheriff's office sources said they were taken to a hotel while a search warrant was served on their home. The home was considered a crime scene until investigators finished looking for evidence. Orange County deputies moved to secure the Anthony home after the discovery, Thursday. The home had been the site of many protests and on-looker gatherings throughout the course of investigation into Caylee's disappearance. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Magic Eyes on December 11, 2008, 07:32:49 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!

I was just thinking the same thing, Red.  I bet they are cooking up the whole story about how they knew he was the guy all along.  It will get very interesting and they will know all about his bladder issues and exactly what he was doing and why.  They will claim they have proof, absolute proof that this utility worker has not been able to pee for years.  The new scientist on the defense side will be a urologist.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Sharon/Tx on December 11, 2008, 07:34:16 PM
did anyone else hear Judge Napaliano(sp?) say he thinks the body/bag was not there before and that's why they may be searching the home?

I hate to bring this up again but there was a freezer in the garage.... ugh.  I just wonder how the bag stayed back there 6 months and wonder if it was moved and put out there later. Just thinking out loud....... how sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TexasBarMom on December 11, 2008, 07:35:25 PM
Hi Monkeys -
Haven't posted in a while, found out a month ago I have a blood clot in my calf so I've been trying to keep my butt out of this chair!!

NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that they have found her!!  A bittersweet discovery for most of us, I think. 
I can't wait to see what Cindy and George have to say.   And can't wait to hear what they found in the bag.  And what they find in the house !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wendiw8780 on December 11, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
i just saw on headline news, cindy & george will be back on larry king tomorrow nite to discuss the remains found today. SERIOUSLY, are the going back on lk in person or by fone? both are totally sick. i thought they wanted to be left "ALONE"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 07:35:53 PM
did anyone else hear Judge Napaliano(sp?) say he thinks the body/bag was not there before and that's why they may be searching the home?

I hate to bring this up again but there was a freezer in the garage.... ugh.  I just wonder how the bag stayed back there 6 months and wonder if it was moved and put out there later. Just thinking out loud....... how sad.

He could be on to something here. This could be why Casey has been freaking out having panic and anxiety attacks all day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 07:37:05 PM
I wonder where they took George and Cindy? Would they take them to LE HQ or to the jail to see their daughter?

Shouldn't they be at Lee's side, comforting him? If the Ants had nothing to do with this, I would want to be with my immediate family and find comfort with them.
I hope they took them to the jail to see their precious angel. Are the Ants still saying it isn't Caylee. I felt sorry for them in the begining, but after all the lies, I truly don't feel sorry for a one of them. Only Caylee and her great grandparents do I feel sorry for.


WELL... i THOUGHT i read or saw that they were taking them to spend the nite at a hotel... but perhaps they wanted to "question " them further.... or uh.. ahem... keep them in the loop of what they knew or what was happening....

read:keep them from having a circus around them.... and having to control crowds


Passengers who were on the flight said the Anthonys were calm and wore their "Find Caylee" t-shirts. They were met by deputies at the gate and whisked away.

The couple did not immediately return to their home. Sheriff's office sources said they were taken to a hotel while a search warrant was served on their home. The home was considered a crime scene until investigators finished looking for evidence. Orange County deputies moved to secure the Anthony home after the discovery, Thursday. The home had been the site of many protests and on-looker gatherings throughout the course of investigation into Caylee's disappearance. ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm sure they were calm because they've had a few months to grieve. LP mentioned that the whole demeanor of the household changed after the forensic evidence came. All this recent "Caylee is alive" hoopla was just to get Casey off the hook. When Cindy was on those videos of July visits to Casey, she was grieving then. She looked as if she could barely hold herself together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 07:38:05 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 07:39:56 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:40:07 PM
i dont think a couple months of GRIEVING over what MIGHT have happened... would stop me from crying my heart out when PROOF of what happened was found..
when my sweet grandchild was FOUND..

naw... i cut the heartless cold bas*ards NO slack for having GRIEVED before..

none..

nada

zilch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:41:52 PM
Hi Monkeys -
Haven't posted in a while, found out a month ago I have a blood clot in my calf so I've been trying to keep my butt out of this chair!!

NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that they have found her!!  A bittersweet discovery for most of us, I think. 
I can't wait to see what Cindy and George have to say.   And can't wait to hear what they found in the bag.  And what they find in the house !

Hi TBM:

Sorry to hear about your health. Take care of yourself!
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Get%20Well%20Soon/monkeysick2.gif)

I too, am anxious for more information!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 07:42:13 PM
Hi Monkeys -
Haven't posted in a while, found out a month ago I have a blood clot in my calf so I've been trying to keep my butt out of this chair!!

NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that they have found her!!  A bittersweet discovery for most of us, I think. 
I can't wait to see what Cindy and George have to say.   And can't wait to hear what they found in the bag.  And what they find in the house !

It's good to see you again TexasBarMom.  Sorry to hear to you haven't been well.  I'm glad you popped in.   I believe LE is fairly certain it's Caylee that's been found.  I am very curious about what evidence may be found in the house.  As far as what George and Cindy have to say?  It's probably more baloney, but then that's just my opinion.  I think they knew Caylee was dead and I think they were doing all they could to keep Casey from the death penalty and from life imprisonment.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 11, 2008, 07:42:31 PM
We should send a thank you card to the utility worker.

Thank you Mr. Utility worker for having to pee, the decency to make your way into the woods and for checking out that bag! You have brought a lot of peace to the people of the United States and did what no man could do, Shut Cindy Anthony Up!

Next Cindy Anthony and KF will be looking to pin the rap on the utility worker. That will be Baez's strategy. The utility worker is related to Zanny. He put the bag there. I can see it know ... CA saying how do we know the utility worker did not murder my granddaughter. EESH!

I was just thinking the same thing, Red.  I bet they are cooking up the whole story about how they knew he was the guy all along.  It will get very interesting and they will know all about his bladder issues and exactly what he was doing and why.  They will claim they have proof, absolute proof that this utility worker has not been able to pee for years.  The new scientist on the defense side will be a urologist.  ::MonkeyConfused::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  And the utility worker's name is Zannie F. Gonzales, III.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3doglady on December 11, 2008, 07:43:00 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:43:34 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?

Not I, either.

A monkey here reported that they were "cutting" a part of a tree from the crime scene. That's all the info I have. Nothing substantiated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: califmom on December 11, 2008, 07:44:34 PM


Did anybody just hear that Judge(N) say the search warrant says to him that the bag probably hasn't been there all along???

I wonder what the bag's condition was like when the meter reader found it.   I feel so bad for this poor guy who found the remains.  I will say a prayer for him, because he is going to need it.  Not only from the discovery & shock of finding a child's remains, but the wrath of the Anthony's!!  I am certain that they will try pin this on him.  I sure hope his last name is NOT Fernandez/Gonzalez.
 
God Bless Caylee... my heart is breaking for this sweet innocent precious girl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sharon/Tx on December 11, 2008, 07:44:37 PM
Hi Monkeys -
Haven't posted in a while, found out a month ago I have a blood clot in my calf so I've been trying to keep my butt out of this chair!!

NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that they have found her!!  A bittersweet discovery for most of us, I think. 
I can't wait to see what Cindy and George have to say.   And can't wait to hear what they found in the bag.  And what they find in the house !
Wow TexasBarMom, keep that leg moving and get well soon!  It truly is a bittersweet day.  We all wanted answers and to know where Caylee was.  Now we just have more questions that need more answers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 11, 2008, 07:45:48 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?
From me I saw them cutting down a tree in the Fox Orlando video's it was near the crime seen.  They guy had a saw in his hand and he was psychally trying to cut the tree down  sorry about spelling it won't let me spell check for some reason


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

Oh, sorry, you asked more. LOL

He reportedly saw someone who looked like Casey jogging on the 16th of June. He called her, asked if it was her, she said, "No."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:46:28 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.


and what day did chris say he saw casey jogging?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3doglady on December 11, 2008, 07:46:41 PM
Thanks Brandi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:48:02 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.


and what day did chris say he saw casey jogging?


ooops...sorry.. asked and answered!


anywho...it is darn right FREAKY to think it was on the 16th,.... whoa...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: alwayz-wondering on December 11, 2008, 07:48:19 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

A1 - I heard that on whatever channel I was watching online, but it kept rebuffering on me so I only caught a couple of seconds every 10 or so seconds and couldnt follow what they were talking about.  Do you know why they were looking at the trees and cutting them?  I am so confused on that one.  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 11, 2008, 07:49:07 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?

Not I, either.

A monkey here reported that they were "cutting" a part of a tree from the crime scene. That's all the info I have. Nothing substantiated.

Brandi it was me I saw it on the live video feed from the Fox Orlando news..it might have been the WFTV as well but I had it up watching it all day.  I don't think we can roll back but if you can  you'll see it, it was from the crime scene area


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: oldfart on December 11, 2008, 07:49:11 PM
Did anyone do Presser that has good details in it yet and if SO is there a link handy ?
TIA

Damm I wish Jane gave up on trying act / sound like ...  Nancy G.  !! ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 07:50:07 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks
Date : July 15. Chris Stultz. That was one of my forst thoughts also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: CynInOregon on December 11, 2008, 07:51:05 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html

Yes, saw that earlier today. Made me want to puke. He reminds me of the Leave Britney Alone person.

Typical deranged stalker fan. And for Casey of all people!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought he was mental everytime I saw him insert himself in front of the cameras.
At least someone at the Anthony home is showing some emotion over this possibly being Caylee.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: califmom on December 11, 2008, 07:51:05 PM
Did anyone do Presser that has good details in it yet and if SO is there a link handy ?
TIA

Damm I wish Jane gave up on trying act / sound like ...  Nancy G.  !! ::MonkeyWaa::

I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:51:09 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks
Date : July 15. Chris Stultz. That was one of my forst thoughts also.

I may be incorrect. If so, I am terribly sorry.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 07:51:52 PM
The guy on channel 6 just done a drive to the area from the Anthony's home and said it would take less than 2 minutes to get to the area where the body was found....Casey could have went there anytime and been back in just a few minutes....she could have walked there in about 10 minutes if that................so sad........this is just like Casey.....get rid of the body.......get on with my life......go seee my boyfriend.....go to Fusians and party......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 11, 2008, 07:52:26 PM
Is there anymore live news coverage?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: alwayz-wondering on December 11, 2008, 07:52:39 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?

Not I, either.

A monkey here reported that they were "cutting" a part of a tree from the crime scene. That's all the info I have. Nothing substantiated.

Brandi it was me I saw it on the live video feed from the Fox Orlando news..it might have been the WFTV as well but I had it up watching it all day.  I don't think we can roll back but if you can  you'll see it, it was from the crime scene area

It musta been fox then.  wftv had went off the air so i was watching whatever was left.  wftv was great, never buffered out on me once  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 07:52:46 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Magic Eyes on December 11, 2008, 07:52:55 PM
Did anyone do Presser that has good details in it yet and if SO is there a link handy ?
TIA

Damm I wish Jane gave up on trying act / sound like ...  Nancy G.  !! ::MonkeyWaa::

That is soooo true...as if we need another Nancy Grace.  At least Jane can pronounce Caylee's name.  Some times I think I will go mad, if I hear NG say "Kellee" one more time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 11, 2008, 07:53:21 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks
Date : July 15. Chris Stultz. That was one of my forst thoughts also.

That makes me go hmmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 07:53:45 PM
okay... i need to take a break..
my neck is stiff from sitting here...


has anyone who has access to facebook, myspace ect have any news on what the FRIENDS of casey are saying today with this news?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 11, 2008, 07:54:52 PM
We need to know the total contents of the plastic bag to know anything much.  Until that information is released, it's all just guess work.

There could have been the outfit Caylee was last seen wearing for example as well as her toys, etc. for more rapid ID of remains.

But with Casey crying (for herself that she is caught) tells me this is Caylee.

And let's see what the Anthonys have to say.  LeJame jumped ship and changed his tune so maybe they will as well.

Even with remains I still don't see this as a capital case but you never know.  Usually the judge imposes sentence instead of the jury but I don't know Florida law.

It is a tragedy all the way around no doubt about it but for the first time I feel a smidge of sympathy for the grandparents  What a nightmare.  I know I would be behaving badly myself in that situation.

And remember we only have Casey's word for it that she didn't want a child and her mother forced her.  Kids can get abortions without parental consent these days.  So I have never bought into that.  She didn't even tell until it was too late and Casey would know all about things like that. 

Right now, I'm thinking she will go with insanity defense as there just isn't much left for her the way things are stacking up against her.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: califmom on December 11, 2008, 07:55:02 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.


WOW!!!!!  I don't remember hearing/reading this before. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 11, 2008, 07:55:24 PM
Has anyone seen anymore about the tree being cut????  Do they have the kinds of trees that the bottom would be hollowed out???? 

No nothing about a tree.  Where did you hear about a tree being cut?

Not I, either.

A monkey here reported that they were "cutting" a part of a tree from the crime scene. That's all the info I have. Nothing substantiated.

Brandi it was me I saw it on the live video feed from the Fox Orlando news..it might have been the WFTV as well but I had it up watching it all day.  I don't think we can roll back but if you can  you'll see it, it was from the crime scene area

It musta been fox then.  wftv had went off the air so i was watching whatever was left.  wftv was great, never buffered out on me once  ::MonkeyTongue::

I was trying to give the people out there that were at work a play by play of big things that were happening at the crime scene


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 07:56:06 PM
The thing that pisses me off the most is the duct tape.

Hi you all.

Me too Mary Ann, and I feel certain the duct tape is the beginning of just how sordid this story is, as if it wasn't already.

Strange past 2 days for me. We signed contract for our new home yesterday. I got a new g baby (girl) yesterday. Caylee found today. It is all so bittersweet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 07:56:30 PM
Is there anymore live news coverage?

I am watching http://www.local6.com/video/14013179/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 07:57:13 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html

Yes, saw that earlier today. Made me want to puke. He reminds me of the Leave Britney Alone person.

Typical deranged stalker fan. And for Casey of all people!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought he was mental everytime I saw him insert himself in front of the cameras.
At least someone at the Anthony home is showing some emotion over this possibly being Caylee.
 ::MonkeyEek::
Hi Cyn, just wanted to give you a happy birthday and let you know you are in my prayers. I know your Heather is holding Caylee tight. God Bless you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 07:57:58 PM
okay... i need to take a break..
my neck is stiff from sitting here...


has anyone who has access to facebook, myspace ect have any news on what the FRIENDS of casey are saying today with this news?

Lightweight  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 11, 2008, 07:58:40 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.


July not June.  That's a long time.  I wonder if the cadaver dogs were ever set to check the freezer.  It still creeps me out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 07:59:37 PM
okay... i need to take a break..
my neck is stiff from sitting here...


has anyone who has access to facebook, myspace ect have any news on what the FRIENDS of casey are saying today with this news?

Lightweight  ::MonkeyHaHa::
LOL    Klaas.......yea Heykim....if you cant hang with the big dogs.....stay on the porch ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
The thing that pisses me off the most is the duct tape.

Hi you all.

Me too Mary Ann, and I feel certain the duct tape is the beginning of just how sordid this story is, as if it wasn't already.

Strange past 2 days for me. We signed contract for our new home yesterday. I got a new g baby (girl) yesterday. Caylee found today. It is all so bittersweet.

Congrats, shell!

Yes, bittersweet, indeed.

But considering all we know, it is a relief that Caylee has been found so she can be put to rest. As Tim kept saying, she wasn't "where she chose to be." Soon, she can have a proper burial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:00:29 PM
We are going to be hearing all sorts of rumors now and of course the defense talkers are going to be saying things that will make us all angry.  But they get paid to give another view, and they did the same thing with Scott Peterson and others who were found guilty.

The fact that Casey was so upset after being told that a body was found near the home and where it was found, indicates to me that she knew it was Caylee.  After all, she did not react that way when LP thought he had found some bones in the river.

Her reaction is proof that she put Caylee there and has known all along that Caylee was dead.  She had just come to believe the body would not be found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:01:07 PM
okay... i need to take a break..
my neck is stiff from sitting here...


has anyone who has access to facebook, myspace ect have any news on what the FRIENDS of casey are saying today with this news?

Lightweight  ::MonkeyHaHa::
LOL    Klaas.......yea Heykim....if you cant hang with the big dogs.....stay on the porch ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hi HH, hope you are doing okay with this news. It broke my heart this morning, but then I realized Casey is caught and going down the river. I then perked up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 08:01:14 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

I think the date was Jult 15th around 9am Chris seen casey jogging down Chickasaw trail.. ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:01:54 PM
For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: This is ridiculous & WTF?! Is he wearing KC's forged check sunglasses?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.html


Audition for Jerry Springer??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 08:02:28 PM
Did anyone do Presser that has good details in it yet and if SO is there a link handy ?
TIA

Damm I wish Jane gave up on trying act / sound like ...  Nancy G.  !! ::MonkeyWaa::

I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!!!!


I think they have to audition as to who can sound the most like NG before they can sub for her. But then they find out when it's too late, that it sticks and they can't talk normal any more.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 08:02:43 PM
okay... i am going to take a break... walk my dogs... take a shower...watch a basketball game... and try to not think of all of this for a few hours..


maybe by later tonite.... i will be able to focus on the JOY of finding the sweet baby, rather than the loss....

i pray as a grandmother, that cindy will take this opportunity to grieve for her grandchild, grieve for the loss of her daugher... grieve for the horror of it all...

and then.... maybe she can help OTHER grandparents dealing with taking care of their grown child's CHILD, realize that it isnt ALWAYS best to .... allow the GROWN child destroy the family.... no matter HOW much you may love them...


i havent walked in her shoes... i pray i never have to...




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3doglady on December 11, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
Poster on another site remembered the garbage bag lady.  Wondered if she still has the bag and if it could be matched to the bag found today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 08:03:21 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:05:13 PM
Do any of ya'll think KC will talk now? I rather doubt it, but I was just hoping she would let it out and get it over with.

I know I would be singing like a yellow canary. But that I guess that is what I have always been told is my Catholic guilt. I can't lie with a straight face if I tried. My face turns read, then I look down at the floor. Just cant seem to lie, unlike KC


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
okay... i am going to take a break... walk my dogs... take a shower...watch a basketball game... and try to not think of all of this for a few hours..


maybe by later tonite.... i will be able to focus on the JOY of finding the sweet baby, rather than the loss....

i pray as a grandmother, that cindy will take this opportunity to grieve for her grandchild, grieve for the loss of her daugher... grieve for the horror of it all...

and then.... maybe she can help OTHER grandparents dealing with taking care of their grown child's CHILD, realize that it isnt ALWAYS best to .... allow the GROWN child destroy the family.... no matter HOW much you may love them...


i havent walked in her shoes... i pray i never have to...



Have a relaxing night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 08:06:29 PM
okay... i need to take a break..
my neck is stiff from sitting here...


has anyone who has access to facebook, myspace ect have any news on what the FRIENDS of casey are saying today with this news?

Lightweight  ::MonkeyHaHa::


heh... you ARE right..i AM a pantywaist! *L*
when i mentioned to hubby that i might be able to quit reading the MONKEYS after this... he said... kim... there will be another case always...


bah..


looking at the list on this site... it would appear he is right..

i hate that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Boo - thanks for your response to my q. re cross.  Having trouble keeping up with all you fast monkeys!   I tend to agree.  I recall a shrink saying she would probably be very careless with the disposal...it seems that might be the case.  Off to watch NG - BBL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
Do any of ya'll think KC will talk now? I rather doubt it, but I was just hoping she would let it out and get it over with.

I know I would be singing like a yellow canary. But that I guess that is what I have always been told is my Catholic guilt. I can't lie with a straight face if I tried. My face turns read, then I look down at the floor. Just cant seem to lie, unlike KC
You have that Catholic guilt too. I would hope she would talk, but Baez more then likely would halt that real quick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 08:07:38 PM
I did gasp out loud. DD sent me the link as she was at home today and has been following this case.
The charade is over. For all of the ANTs, Baez, KidFinders, etc.
Baez will have to reconsider is defense. Take a deal bozo before its too late.
I am glad they found the child. I don't even want to think about what that baby went thru alive or dead. She is with a loving family now. Saw a Statue of Jesus with a lamb in his arms recently and that reminded me now of that poor baby. Whether a person is a believer or not, it is more pleasant to think of it that way, for me anyway.
NG beckons. TTL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cuteascanbe on December 11, 2008, 08:08:17 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::
I don't how to link but JB did a statement on wftv.com...give that a try


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: heykim on December 11, 2008, 08:08:39 PM
okay... i am going to take a break... walk my dogs... take a shower...watch a basketball game... and try to not think of all of this for a few hours..


maybe by later tonite.... i will be able to focus on the JOY of finding the sweet baby, rather than the loss....

i pray as a grandmother, that cindy will take this opportunity to grieve for her grandchild, grieve for the loss of her daugher... grieve for the horror of it all...

and then.... maybe she can help OTHER grandparents dealing with taking care of their grown child's CHILD, realize that it isnt ALWAYS best to .... allow the GROWN child destroy the family.... no matter HOW much you may love them...


i havent walked in her shoes... i pray i never have to...



Have a relaxing night.


thanks kiddo... i will be back after  a bit.... just need to stretch and rest my pantywaist brain! ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Magic Eyes on December 11, 2008, 08:09:34 PM

Yes, we need to once again mourn the death of baby Caylee.  At the same time we need to realize that we are on the way to justice.  A miracle happened today and hopefully Caylee can now be layed to rest properly.  Our mission is not done with the finding of Caylee, we still need justice for her.  We are going to have to still put up with the Anthony's and their new crazy stories and I am sure the defense team is going to come out and make us all mad.  I am so happy to be here with other friendly, caring people, who have come from all parts of the world to be together through all of this.

Hugs, Magic


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 08:09:34 PM
Is there anymore live news coverage?

I am watching http://www.local6.com/video/14013179/index.html


Just a black screen for me???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 08:10:28 PM
Do any of ya'll think KC will talk now? I rather doubt it, but I was just hoping she would let it out and get it over with.

I know I would be singing like a yellow canary. But that I guess that is what I have always been told is my Catholic guilt. I can't lie with a straight face if I tried. My face turns read, then I look down at the floor. Just cant seem to lie, unlike KC
I think if they bring the DP back on the table, it's possible she could - in time - to avoid the DP. 
First I expect to hear blame, blame, blame - focused on any and all the the Casey or any of the Anthony clan.


Title: FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH POST
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:10:30 PM
The following is a post I made on this forum not long ago in which I "predicted" some things after drawing a Tarot card for Caylee.  The card drawn was Death -- no kidding -- and here are some things I garnered from that.  I am not an expert at Tarot.  It is a parlor game to me, but here are the results.

174 Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53 on: November 04, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
CAYLEE ANTHONY -- SEARCH FOR HER BODY THIS WEEK -- DEATH -- Death of someone you know, body near water (canal or river), religious person looking on, rider on white horse, sun in distance, (rising sun of immortality), flag with white rose on it, boat on water, cliff or wall, two pillars beyond. White rose signifies purity. An important ending, also grief but relief, too. In three to six hours days or months, many changes will take place. Transition, transformation, the end of a cycle. Loss must be acknowledged, come to terms with and mourned.

Some people have gone out on a limb about what they think might happen in the search for Caylee or in the case in general. I may as well do the same. I can only be wrong. And I might be right. This is what my thoughts have led me to.

I think Caylee's body will be found near water, a canal or a river. It may have been left in reeds or sawgrass there or it may have washed up or floated up in a container. There may be horses, specifically a white horse, nearby. Or she may be found by someone riding a horse. A religious person, perhaps a Catholic or a minister of some kind, may find her or be in the party that finds her or the much-talked-about cross may be found with her body or on her body. I sense a rising sun, so it seems she may be found in the morning, even the early morning or perhaps a setting sun, which would mean her being found close to dusk. The body may be between two trees or two pillars of some kind and a plowed field is nearby or something is growing that needs harvesting. I sense a boat on the water and a flag on the boat. I also see a white rose and a mass of gray, either a fence or wall or maybe gray-looking water. There will be great grief when the body is found but also great relief. Three to six hours, days or months figure into this somehow. Perhaps she will be found 3 hours after a search begins or after someone has searched for six hours or three days. The body will be skeletal, but the skeleton will be intact. Just what I sense will happen...nothing scientific. Just thoughts and feelings.

(ANALYSIS:  Caylee was found in woods that apparently had been FENCED OFF for a while.  The remains were in a CONTAINER, a bag.  The area had been flooded and the body may have been buried or covered and FLOATED to the surface.  She was found in the MORNING.  The body is SKELETAL and it may be INTACT.  Remains were found almost SIX MONTHS to the day from when she went missing.  TREES were definitely around the remains.  A SERPENT is often associated with this card, and the area is said to be steep and full of SNAKES.  The MASS OF GRAY may be the duct tape, though that is a stretch.  A CHILD is on the Death card is almost every Tarot deck.  It is also associated with the astrological sign Scorpio, with a sex-death connection, with the Number 13 and with with things that are unavoidable or inescapable.  It is also about the end of a phase that can never be recaptured.  It does not always refer to the physical death of a person, but it can.  If not the physical death, it is about the complete ending of one part of life.  Someone is usually brought low when this card is drawn.  I



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:10:32 PM
I just want to say HI monkeys!!! Just stopping by while I have a moment. Trying to keep up with the news!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Minaa on December 11, 2008, 08:10:34 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 11, 2008, 08:10:56 PM
We are going to be hearing all sorts of rumors now and of course the defense talkers are going to be saying things that will make us all angry.  But they get paid to give another view, and they did the same thing with Scott Peterson and others who were found guilty.

The fact that Casey was so upset after being told that a body was found near the home and where it was found, indicates to me that she knew it was Caylee.  After all, she did not react that way when LP thought he had found some bones in the river.

Her reaction is proof that she put Caylee there and has known all along that Caylee was dead.  She had just come to believe the body would not be found.

Exactly!  And she is crying for herself because she knows she is caught.

Did the way Casey was crying before on camera with Baez strike anyone else as so strange.  She was wiping and pawing constantly at her face the whole time.  Most people when they cry are too upset to care and will just let tears stream down but Casey was wiping  constantly so I thought she was trying to draw attention to the fact she was crying desperately.  She wiped three or four times for every tear shed, exaggeration.  Phony as the tears.

But now she must think she is caught and that is why she is crying.

And there may be something else in the bag to ID this as Caylee.

No way anyone else would have put the remains that close to their house.  Imagine getting noticed as a stranger in the neighborhood.

Casey is likely truly delusional but she still knows right from wrong which is the legal definition of insanaity because she knew to hide and conceal what she had done.  Legally insane people don't do that.

Tim Miller can be crucial in court to testify to the water conditions or someone local can that it is submerged in summer and dries in winter.

As I posted earlier as a warning to all searchers, always kick or poke at a bag before picking it up as it may contain a nasty surprise of a snake.  Better to shake with walking stick or something and not just grab the bag.  The Southeast has a huge number of snakes with only a few being poisonous but even not poisonous ones can bite you and have germs in their mouths that can make you very ill. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: theboyzmom on December 11, 2008, 08:10:57 PM
Wow - Tim looks really good. He must have the kindest heart in the world to care more about the child than being successful in the search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:11:27 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::

He told reporters who were swarming him coming out of the jail after seeing Casey today that he would be making a statement later. When pressed if it would be today, he said something like, "It should be."

I didn't expect one today, myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 08:11:28 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::
I don't how to link but JB did a statement on wftv.com...give that a try
Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::
I don't how to link but JB did a statement on wftv.com...give that a try

Yes...I heard him say....Ahhhhhhh Sh*******t  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:12:02 PM
Is there anymore live news coverage?

I am watching http://www.local6.com/video/14013179/index.html


Just a black screen for me???

Some guy talking about potting soil..and then black for me too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:12:23 PM
Do any of ya'll think KC will talk now? I rather doubt it, but I was just hoping she would let it out and get it over with.

I know I would be singing like a yellow canary. But that I guess that is what I have always been told is my Catholic guilt. I can't lie with a straight face if I tried. My face turns read, then I look down at the floor. Just cant seem to lie, unlike KC
You have that Catholic guilt too. I would hope she would talk, but Baez more then likely would halt that real quick.
Yes I do, proud of that RC guilt. That's why I would never be in the position KC is in. I don't think Baez will let her talk either, I also don't believe she will be able to plead any insanity. I thought she would walk yesterday, but now the tables have turned on her. The good Lord works in mysterious ways.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 08:13:17 PM

Yes, we need to once again mourn the death of baby Caylee.  At the same time we need to realize that we are on the way to justice.  A miracle happened today and hopefully Caylee can now be layed to rest properly.  Our mission is not done with the finding of Caylee, we still need justice for her.  We are going to have to still put up with the Anthony's and their new crazy stories and I am sure the defense team is going to come out and make us all mad.  I am so happy to be here with other friendly, caring people, who have come from all parts of the world to be together through all of this.

Hugs, Magic

Hugs back @ ya Magic. It really has not been that long when you think about it, compared to other cases where remains are never found or take years to be found. Our prayers were answered, and quickly in my opinion. Thanks be to God.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
I know this is a rehash, but this really stuck out in the jailhouse visit video: when George did his hand demonstration (I'm the thumb etc.) he said that two fingers were missing, and Casey piped up, "I'm still here". There was a moment of awkwardness after that and she caught it and said something like "it's not the same" after one of the parents said that. It could only have meant that she knew Caylee wasn't "here", meaning, alive. I definitely know George and Cindy reacted to that statement back then. She thinks fast on her feet, but not that fast. Her little brain must be all abuzz right now, trying to think up more lies. She has to tell the "truth" now since the meth gang/nanny/amy/jesse not longer have Caylee to hold over her head. Plus, she has to tie it in with the code/hints she's dropped in the past. It should make interesting fiction.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cuteascanbe on December 11, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
Tim is smiling a huge smile on NG...That made me smile! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 08:14:58 PM
Wow, Hudsunn, that is amazing, and scary.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 08:15:33 PM
Do any of ya'll think KC will talk now? I rather doubt it, but I was just hoping she would let it out and get it over with.

I know I would be singing like a yellow canary. But that I guess that is what I have always been told is my Catholic guilt. I can't lie with a straight face if I tried. My face turns read, then I look down at the floor. Just cant seem to lie, unlike KC

Nah I dont think Casey will ever tell the truth.. Next it will be who put Caylee their in the woods. The Kidnappers?????? I expect this next from Sin-dy and George... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH POST
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:16:05 PM
The following is a post I made on this forum not long ago in which I "predicted" some things after drawing a Tarot card for Caylee.  The card drawn was Death -- no kidding -- and here are some things I garnered from that.  I am not an expert at Tarot.  It is a parlor game to me, but here are the results.

174 Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53 on: November 04, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
CAYLEE ANTHONY -- SEARCH FOR HER BODY THIS WEEK -- DEATH -- Death of someone you know, body near water (canal or river), religious person looking on, rider on white horse, sun in distance, (rising sun of immortality), flag with white rose on it, boat on water, cliff or wall, two pillars beyond. White rose signifies purity. An important ending, also grief but relief, too. In three to six hours days or months, many changes will take place. Transition, transformation, the end of a cycle. Loss must be acknowledged, come to terms with and mourned.

Some people have gone out on a limb about what they think might happen in the search for Caylee or in the case in general. I may as well do the same. I can only be wrong. And I might be right. This is what my thoughts have led me to.

I think Caylee's body will be found near water, a canal or a river. It may have been left in reeds or sawgrass there or it may have washed up or floated up in a container. There may be horses, specifically a white horse, nearby. Or she may be found by someone riding a horse. A religious person, perhaps a Catholic or a minister of some kind, may find her or be in the party that finds her or the much-talked-about cross may be found with her body or on her body. I sense a rising sun, so it seems she may be found in the morning, even the early morning or perhaps a setting sun, which would mean her being found close to dusk. The body may be between two trees or two pillars of some kind and a plowed field is nearby or something is growing that needs harvesting. I sense a boat on the water and a flag on the boat. I also see a white rose and a mass of gray, either a fence or wall or maybe gray-looking water. There will be great grief when the body is found but also great relief. Three to six hours, days or months figure into this somehow. Perhaps she will be found 3 hours after a search begins or after someone has searched for six hours or three days. The body will be skeletal, but the skeleton will be intact. Just what I sense will happen...nothing scientific. Just thoughts and feelings.

(ANALYSIS:  Caylee was found in woods that apparently had been FENCED OFF for a while.  The remains were in a CONTAINER, a bag.  The area had been flooded and the body may have been buried or covered and FLOATED to the surface.  She was found in the MORNING.  The body is SKELETAL and it may be INTACT.  Remains were found almost SIX MONTHS to the day from when she went missing.  TREES were definitely around the remains.  A SERPENT is often associated with this card, and the area is said to be steep and full of SNAKES.  The MASS OF GRAY may be the duct tape, though that is a stretch.  A CHILD is on the Death card is almost every Tarot deck.  It is also associated with the astrological sign Scorpio, with a sex-death connection, with the Number 13 and with with things that are unavoidable or inescapable.  It is also about the end of a phase that can never be recaptured.  It does not always refer to the physical death of a person, but it can.  If not the physical death, it is about the complete ending of one part of life.  Someone is usually brought low when this card is drawn.  I


Spooky, I don't know anything about Tarot cards, but that creeps me out. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: suzyinpgh on December 11, 2008, 08:16:31 PM
I just got back on here so I don't know if this has been mentioned.  I was wondering if LE obtained the garbage bag the the Anthony's threw the stuffed animals away in.  Or do I remember correctly that someone took the Anthony's trash.  I think they could do testing to see if they came from the same lot as the bag Caylee was in.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
Wow - Tim looks really good. He must have the kindest heart in the world to care more about the child than being successful in the search.

A big Texas heart. He makes me proud to say I was born and raised in Texas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
Wow - Tim looks really good. He must have the kindest heart in the world to care more about the child than being successful in the search.

He sure does....he sounded great too, this afternoon, considering he was just in the hospital


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary Ann on December 11, 2008, 08:17:04 PM
This whole case is about yin and yang. The good and bad, happy and sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho

You are entitled to your opinion Minaa, but I don't think Tim was an "ass" about LP searching.  JMHO  And I do NOT want a pissing match again on here tonight about the pros and cons of Tim Miller and LP.  You asked if it bothered anyone else, and wanted to give you my answer, which is no, I am not bothered by Tim Miller's interviews.  Let's focus tonight on Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 08:19:26 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho
Go to work tomorrow girl ! I was at work all day peeking. I was grumpy like that yesterday, but then I vented on the security guy where I live. Felt much better...
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 08:19:38 PM
Is there anymore live news coverage?

I am watching http://www.local6.com/video/14013179/index.html


Just a black screen for me???

Some guy talking about potting soil..and then black for me too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes...and since it's snowing here, I'm not too interested in potting soil right now ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:19:41 PM
well in that casey I believe george knew that caylee was dead and trained casey how to foul LE. AND SEARCHERS GOING TO WOOD AREAS....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 11, 2008, 08:20:23 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho


No, nothing Tim Miller does bothers me.

It takes a while to come to understand Tim and the absolute hell he went through with his own daughter.  He even received a hate mail from what may have been her killer as recently as a couple of years ago.  He has been known to take a drink on occasion which I understand having been through the hell he has.

Sometimes he talks like the coach of football team in saying things like we're gonna find her and not leave until we do, etc. to rouse his teams, etc. and I know some don't understand when he will then leave.  He plans to come back later.

To me, he is such a talented searcher that it is an art with him and artists of all stripes can be temperamental. 

I am content to just accept Tim Miller as he is, a flawed human being like the rest of us.  We have all come short of the Glory.  The work he has done over the years far more than compensated for any temperamental acts or statements on his part.

If anyone in this old world deserves to have some slack, it's Tim.  He has found I think close to 300 people now and I believe is teetering on the brinrk of exhaustion himself.  His good works more than cover for any ambiguous statements in my opinion.  I watch what he does and don't nit pick what he says.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: oldfart on December 11, 2008, 08:20:40 PM
Later Monkeys :smt006

Based upon what I have heard..   99.999% sure  Caylee has be found   but there is still that .001% that it could be someone else or an unknow. 
Either way some family / folks will have a chance at finding answers.

If Caylee.... sorry to say but only one or maybe two questions have been answered for sure.  The roller coaster ride is just starting... so buckle up! 

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:20:53 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho

You are entitled to your opinion Minaa, but I don't think Tim was an "ass" about LP searching.  JMHO  And I do NOT want a pissing match again on here tonight about the pros and cons of Tim Miller and LP.  You asked if it bothered anyone else, and wanted to give you my answer, which is no, I am not bothered by Tim Miller's interviews.  Let's focus tonight on Caylee.


Thank you MuffyBee.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:23:19 PM
well in that casey I believe george knew that caylee was dead and trained casey how to foul LE. AND SEARCHERS GOING TO WOOD AREAS....

You know you have Christmas attire, right Cecilita?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/cecelita-xmas.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:23:45 PM
I am at work....do you guys have the link to watch NG?
THANKS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:24:32 PM
well in that casey I believe george knew that caylee was dead and trained casey how to foul LE. AND SEARCHERS GOING TO WOOD AREAS....

You know you have Christmas attire, right Cecilita?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/cecelita-xmas.gif)
Thank you sweetie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
Jose Baez
http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
Ok.. there is just zero way I can catch up 75 pages worth of posts here  ::MonkeyNoNo::
(Been gone all day, out of state). 


Watching NG, and thinking this seems to be the same area Kio Marie told LE about- it's the place IIRC that she stated that if Casey would have put Caylee's body anywhere, it would have been there. The place where Casey and Kio used to go together in the woods and have their talks.


I wonder what George and Cindy are thinking now?

And I'm thinking Tim was smart for leaving that area... it would have been hard to find Caylee under all that water, I'd guess.

OMG I can't watch that clip of Caylee singing knowing her skeleton was laying there near her house.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:27:08 PM
I'll bet both Casey and Cindy are in a tailspin tonight unless they are totally knocked out by drugs.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:28:16 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:28:23 PM
Ok.. there is just zero way I can catch up 75 pages worth of posts here  ::MonkeyNoNo::
(Been gone all day, out of state). 


Watching NG, and thinking this seems to be the same area Kio Marie told LE about- it's the place IIRC that she stated that if Casey would have put Caylee's body anywhere, it would have been there. The place where Casey and Kio used to go together in the woods and have their talks.


I wonder what George and Cindy are thinking now?

And I'm thinking Tim was smart for leaving that area... it would have been hard to find Caylee under all that water, I'd guess.

OMG I can't watch that clip of Caylee singing knowing her skeleton was laying there near her house.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I think George and Cindy are preparing to answer a lot of questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
Thanks Muffy for your response about Tim Miller.

I don't think he did anything to LP. They may have butted heads, but I believe in my heart that they were the only two in the public eye (monkeys and LE excluded) that truly gave a rats behind about finding Caylee. Cindy didn't, George didn't, Lee didn't, Baez didn't and KC sure as hell didn't! Tim and LP were on the same page, but in different books. They wanted that baby found and that is all that mattered to them. In my eyes Tim is a Saint and LP is well LP. LP was pissed at the KC and the Ants. LP is like a dog looking for a bone. Tim is a Dad looking for a missing child. They are both on the same mission, but for different reasons.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:28:45 PM
Everytime they show that video of Caylee singing that just tears me up.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So many people would have loved to care for her if her Mom didn't want her.It just breaks my heart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:29:21 PM
I'm still waiting for Baez to make a statement, I guess he decided against it. ::MonkeyEek::

Big chicken!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 08:29:36 PM
Tim is smiling a huge smile on NG...That made me smile! ::MonkeyRoll::

I just want all to remember that difficult decision Tim made when he called off the search. Many were disappointed; however, many were very critical and questioned his motives. Tim Miller has never had anyone but the missing persons who he is looking for in mind when he searches.  It is one of the most difficult things to do ,,, to call off an effort when you want to find a missing child in the worse way. Especially when one can do more damange by searching than not. Hard to believe, but extremely possible.

What a call he made in the fact that they could have damaged evidence ... turns out Tim was 100% correct. I cannot stress enough how important Tim Miller's call off of the search really was. Simply amazing if one really thinks about all the things that had to occur in order for Caylee to ultimately be found. The Lord truly does work in mysterious ways and in his own time, not ours.

Tim Miller never had a circus in mind when he searched ... he had Caylee's best interests in mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 11, 2008, 08:29:50 PM
I just saw Caylee's video on Nancy Grace and I want to cry.  I will just say a prayer for her.  I'm wondering if George and Cindy will visit Casey in jail tonight.  I think I'd have to.  I'd have to confront all of this with her and get it off my chest.  I hope the LE finds what they need in the home so we can put this all to rest.  Casey will get her punishment in the end.  I think we all know this.  Take care fellow monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 08:30:28 PM
Jose Baez
http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html
HE MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
ANTHONY HOME IS NOW CRIME SCENE. CRIME SCENE TAPE IS NOW UP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 08:31:15 PM
Real crime scene tape no being put around the A's house.

On NG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
I'll bet both Casey and Cindy are in a tailspin tonight unless they are totally knocked out by drugs.



I am so sorry, but I have just no sympathy for George and Cindy. They have been at the very minimum lying and trying to change facts ever since this case broke. I really don't care how they are faring tonight.

JMO, but a very strong one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:31:50 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:33:51 PM
ANTHONY HOME IS NOW CRIME SCENE. CRIME SCENE TAPE IS NOW UP.


I saw that Willen.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
I just wanted to saythank you to all the monkeys who were posting all of the events from today.
I can only look from work, and because big brother is watching I can't watch any of the live video from there. I also can't post, but I was here off and on today, and this board and the monkeys are just amazing!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 11, 2008, 08:35:21 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:35:40 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 11, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
I have had a heck of a time here today...getting kicked off....couldn;t get back in..did ya hear me knocking and cussing!!! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:36:38 PM
I just wanted to saythank you to all the monkeys who were posting all of the events from today.
I can only look from work, and because big brother is watching I can't watch any of the live video from there. I also can't post, but I was here off and on today, and this board and the monkeys are just amazing!!!



OW: All of the monkeys are amazing! ;-)

Cecilita: Now your avatar will not scare people as much! LOL You are very welcome. I am proud of that one. I learned a new technique to make your frame.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:36:41 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Could it just be that they don't want anyone getting in the house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Here are some things I will watch for to see if the Tarot Death card applies.

 1.  Is there a sex-death connection?
 2.  Is the person who found her religious or a Scorpio?
 3.  Does the Number 13 have any meaning in the case?
 4.  Are there white horses or white flowers nearby?
 5.  On the card, the child is carrying flowers and holds the wrist of a person in a gray gown, who cannot be seen.
 6.  There is a cross on the glove of the religious figure on the card.  Will a cross be found near her or with her?
 7.  The skull looks out from the armor of the figure riding the horse.
 8.  Is there a pillar or post of any kind near where the body was found?
 9.  On the card, there is land with a little pond in it as well as the flowing river or stream.
10.  The sky on the card is gray, in spite of the sun on the horizon, and today was a gray and rainy day in Orlando./b]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:37:50 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)

Thanks Willen, I tried, but couldn't get on.  I tried  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:39:10 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Could it just be that they don't want anyone getting in the house?

Correct. They are awaiting a search warrant, last I heard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:40:15 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)

Thanks Willen, I tried, but couldn't get on.  I tried  ::MonkeyWaa::

What did it say for you?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:40:40 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.

Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:41:06 PM
I have had a heck of a time here today...getting kicked off....couldn;t get back in..did ya hear me knocking and cussing!!! 



Grab a vine and hang on Sunny!  We knew that was you out there...(knockin and cussin)   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:41:11 PM
Here are some things I will watch for to see if the Tarot Death card applies.

 1.  Is there a sex-death connection?
 2.  Is the person who found her religious or a Scorpio?
 3.  Does the Number 13 have any meaning in the case?
 4.  Are there white horses or white flowers nearby?
 5.  On the card, the child is carrying flowers and holds the wrist of a person in a gray gown, who cannot be seen.
 6.  There is a cross on the glove of the religious figure on the card.  Will a cross be found near her or with her?
 7.  The skull looks out from the armor of the figure riding the horse.
 8.  Is there a pillar or post of any kind near where the body was found?
 9.  On the card, there is land with a little pond in it as well as the flowing river or stream.
10.  The sky on the card is gray, in spite of the sun on the horizon, and today was a gray and rainy day in Orlando./b]
Hudsunn, I love all your posts. BUT, tonite you are scaring me.  ::MonkeyWaa::The cross, LP found one on the tree. I have never seen a Tarot card, but I have seen Taroky cards. They are some kind of Czech playing cards and the pictures on those cards really scare and creep me out. I don't know if they are the same cards, but Taroky cards scare me.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:41:32 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

They just said on Nancy Grace that it was Crime Scene tape. Mark Williams was talking on there and said thats what it was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 08:41:37 PM
Thank you Lord for answering our prayers. I know that Caylee has been in the arms of Jesus for several months, but for those of us on earth, we needed her found so badly.

Thank you for allowing us to have the remains of Caylee, so that she can finally have a place to rest. A place that is pretty and quiet, a place where those who love her can place a flower, say a prayer, shed a tear, and remember her.

Please be with all the people tonight who loved her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:41:56 PM
I have had a heck of a time here today...getting kicked off....couldn;t get back in..did ya hear me knocking and cussing!!! 



you didn't know about the back window always being unlocked?   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.

Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


I think it's standard operating procedure under the circumstances.  I'll bet they are looking very closely at things, and have a better idea of what to look for.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:43:01 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks GG. Hope your feeling better.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 08:43:17 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Neither do I. But this guy does an excellent job of posting the entire show and more Caylee related shows. Usually by around ten he's got the first few segments uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=torbenmiller2&view=videos



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:43:35 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)

Thanks Willen, I tried, but couldn't get on.  I tried  ::MonkeyWaa::

What did it say for you?
Something like there is no Willenfan21. I tried three times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:43:40 PM
Thank you brandi you did a wonderful job ::MonkeyTongue::

now in this case, cindy will say on TV that the kidnapers felt scared and they killed the baby and put her near her house to buried her. They never will accept that her daughter is a killer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 08:43:44 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I think this is where the body was found.  Not enough news vehicles to be the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blue Moon on December 11, 2008, 08:44:13 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.


July not June.  That's a long time.  I wonder if the cadaver dogs were ever set to check the freezer.  It still creeps me out.

BEEN saying since day one THE FREEZER.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:44:43 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.

Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


I think it's standard operating procedure under the circumstances.  I'll bet they are looking very closely at things, and have a better idea of what to look for.  JMHO

That makes sense, thanks Muffy! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:45:33 PM
Jose Baez
http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html
HE MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a putz.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:45:53 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Neither do I. But this guy does an excellent job of posting the entire show and more Caylee related shows. Usually by around ten he's got the first few segments uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=torbenmiller2&view=videos


thanks scatty. I will try and check it out. I tried Willen's tonight, but maybe I did it wrong. Dumb mokey I am. Cute kitty by the way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 08:46:12 PM
Standing room only in the cage ! I'll actually leave so another monkee can get in. NG !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:46:26 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.

Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


I think it's standard operating procedure under the circumstances.  I'll bet they are looking very closely at things, and have a better idea of what to look for.  JMHO

That makes sense, thanks Muffy! 



MuffyBee is a wise monkey.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:46:27 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't have Cable.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Neither do I. But this guy does an excellent job of posting the entire show and more Caylee related shows. Usually by around ten he's got the first few segments uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=torbenmiller2&view=videos



Oh!  Scatty, bless your heart!  I had that link and lost it, GREAT to have it again!  monkey hugs!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:46:55 PM
Thank you brandi you did a wonderful job ::MonkeyTongue::

now in this case, cindy will say on TV that the kidnapers felt scared and they killed the baby and put her near her house to buried her. They never will accept that her daughter is a killer

cecilita ~  I know what you mean.  However, at the end of the day, it won't really matter if George and Cindy accept that Casey is a killer.  They are not the ones that will be judging her to be guilty or not guilty in a court of law.  The evidence will speak for itself.  It reminds me of Scott Peterson's mom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:47:28 PM
More than dozen deputies at Anthony house. Waiting for warrant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:48:38 PM
Standing room only in the cage ! I'll actually leave so another monkee can get in. NG !

You are a good  and generous monkey Kat_Gram.  Hop back in here in a bit though, okay?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 08:48:56 PM
I have had a heck of a time here today...getting kicked off....couldn;t get back in..did ya hear me knocking and cussing!!! 



Yes dear, loud and clear  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 08:49:44 PM
Thank you Lord for answering our prayers. I know that Caylee has been in the arms of Jesus for several months, but for those of us on earth, we needed her found so badly.

Thank you for allowing us to have the remains of Caylee, so that she can finally have a place to rest. A place that is pretty and quiet, a place where those who love her can place a flower, say a prayer, shed a tear, and remember her.

Please be with all the people tonight who loved her.


That was beautiful, Orchidwmn.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
They said it on Nancy Grace again that its become a crime scene and there is crime scene tape all around the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:50:19 PM
http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

Click on chat, then in chat, click on Willen's name. (It often tells me there is no such user either, but you can still get in)


----------

Did you catch them say that Casey had to take a sedative when she heard the remains were found?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:50:43 PM
george should be investigated......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:52:01 PM
They said it on Nancy Grace again that its become a crime scene and there is crime scene tape all around the house.

Thanks Willen.
  That clarifies things.  I hope the search/investigation of the Anthony's house is done in a legal and professional manner, so anything and everything that might be able to be used in the case as evidence can be presented and accepted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:52:09 PM
Looks like Spanish moss hanging on the trees at that location.  Little Caylee was covered by a canopy of Spanish moss.  I grew up in Louisiana so I am used to seeing it.  It looks really spooky at night though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 08:52:25 PM
They said it on Nancy Grace again that its become a crime scene and there is crime scene tape all around the house.
It means that they are 100 per cent that is caylee...i always was curious how george remembered very good caylee's outfit last time he saw her......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:53:08 PM
Not sure if you all caught this thread on WS, but it's about the woman who took the bag/s of trash from the Anthony home.. the one with the cut up hat in it.   The woman still has the bag/s and it's possible it was from the same roll as the bag with these remains. 

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76255


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 08:53:14 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:53:17 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::

We don't know where the duct tape was that was found. Until that time, I am not going to speculate, myself.

Lots of information will be coming our way soon, I believe.

And good evening to you, AM ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:54:08 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....

Yes, but they have said there are reports that tape was found on the skull itself.. not just on the bag?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 08:54:23 PM
More than dozen deputies at Anthony house. Waiting for warrant.

Wow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sirensong on December 11, 2008, 08:54:39 PM
Not sure if this was posted, but here is the link to Mark Nejame phone interview:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:54:43 PM
If this is Caylee and she was in the trunk they just need to find a fiber from the trunk of the car. They must have found something to send someone to the A's house, and now it's a crime scene. They very quickly tied this to being Caylee. When LP "discovered" something in the river and they came, they discounted it immediately. They know what they're doing. They know what to look for.
Sorry if I'm making no sense, I'm trying to type fast. BTW why would they talk to LK tomorrow? I suspect they will still say KC is innocent, someone else did this. Probably "Zanny". Oh, please!!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
Good evening, Brandi.

Did you hear that Dr. G is on the scene? (Wow, that is good!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 08:55:05 PM
http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

Click on chat, then in chat, click on Willen's name. (It often tells me there is no such user either, but you can still get in)


----------

Did you catch them say that Casey had to take a sedative when she heard the remains were found?  ::MonkeyRoll::
I heard that this afternoon AM, I am so behind, my internet is so slow. I will try Willen again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 08:55:05 PM
Thank you Lord for answering our prayers. I know that Caylee has been in the arms of Jesus for several months, but for those of us on earth, we needed her found so badly.

Thank you for allowing us to have the remains of Caylee, so that she can finally have a place to rest. A place that is pretty and quiet, a place where those who love her can place a flower, say a prayer, shed a tear, and remember her.

Please be with all the people tonight who loved her.


That was beautiful, Orchidwmn.  Thank you.
[/quote  ♥♥♥♥AMEN♥♥♥♥


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 11, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 08:55:32 PM
They said it on Nancy Grace again that its become a crime scene and there is crime scene tape all around the house.
It means that they are 100 per cent that is caylee...i always was curious how george remembered very good caylee's outfit last time he saw her......

It really was a pretty detailed account, wasn't it?

OT cecilita your Christmas avi is looking very pretty and festive for the holidays


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:55:46 PM
The duct tape could have separated from the bag and ended up on her face.  Unless it was really wound around her head, I would not jump to any conclusions.  I remember that little Connor Peterson's body had duct tape around the neck but it got there while his body floated in the bay, or so they thought. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 11, 2008, 08:55:53 PM
I pulled up the old bookmarks for the live cam - looks like crime tape at the Anthony's to me!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks GG. Hope your feeling better.  ::MonkeyWink::

I said last night that I was off work today and was going to watch the pretrial conference this morning.  Well, here I sit hours later....still working the computer with the tv nearby!  This is probably a good thing because at least it kept me in the house and resting, sort of!  I probably would have been running around Christmas shopping in the rain if this hadn't happened today.  As it was, people are lucky they got dinner tonight - it was a skillet thingie with kielbasa, potatoes and baby spinach.  And I was watching the big screen in the next room while I was cooking.

I really thought this day would never come and it would be the luck of the draw with the jury.  Happy isn't the right word, relieved, I guess.  There will be a lot more document dumps in the future now; lots for us to consider!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 08:56:14 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.
Whoohoo let her come to Naples!  I will have a "WELCOME SLUNT" sign up just for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
Oh.. and why the hell was Mallory at the house today?  ::MonkeyNoNo::   (Surely she knew Lee wasn't there... and obviously Cindy and George were not at home)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 08:56:37 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....

Yes, but they have said there are reports that tape was found on the skull itself.. not just on the bag?
I have only heard it was on the bag to hold it closed...the rest has been people speculating I think....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 11, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::

I too read that there was duct tape found on the skull. Don't know if that's 100% verified, but I thought: maybe to keep fluid from escaping through mouth or nose after death??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:57:25 PM
The duct tape could have separated from the bag and ended up on her face.  Unless it was really wound around her head, I would not jump to any conclusions.  I remember that little Connor Peterson's body had duct tape around the neck but it got there while his body floated in the bay, or so they thought. 

Poor baby.  That case is still upsetting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 08:57:26 PM
I am going to be straming Greta Van Sustren at 10PM ET on fox news. She is covering the Caylee Case.

Caylee Found?
The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of Caylee Anthony's family. Greta is on the case and will have the latest developments tonight at 10 ET!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 08:57:39 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.

Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


I think it's standard operating procedure under the circumstances.  I'll bet they are looking very closely at things, and have a better idea of what to look for.  JMHO
Well George and Cindy have been putting up that tape for months...maybe it was a sign!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 08:58:00 PM
Someone said (cannot recall which poster, sorry) that the LE already had duct tape taken from the car trunk to compare the duct tape at the scene with.  So I wonder what they are looking for in the home.  Maybe they intend to turn that place upside down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 08:58:02 PM
I will be so grateful if this is Caylee, but could we have Natalee too???  (And a live Madeline?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 08:58:12 PM
Good evening, Brandi.

Did you hear that Dr. G is on the scene? (Wow, that is good!!)

Yes, she was, at least. The remains have been sent to Quantico here in VA for the FBI to examine now though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 08:58:23 PM
Not sure if you all caught this thread on WS, but it's about the woman who took the bag/s of trash from the Anthony home.. the one with the cut up hat in it.   The woman still has the bag/s and it's possible it was from the same roll as the bag with these remains. 

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76255

Oh my.That could be interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wendiw8780 on December 11, 2008, 08:58:43 PM
trimm, i luv your puppy (granddog-digger?) he's beautiful. sorry o/t


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 08:58:57 PM
Looks like Spanish moss hanging on the trees at that location.  Little Caylee was covered by a canopy of Spanish moss.  I grew up in Louisiana so I am used to seeing it.  It looks really spooky at night though.
I was wondering if Florida had the moss like Louisiana, and Texas. When I saw gray, I thought of that moss.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
Here are some things I will watch for to see if the Tarot Death card applies.

 1.  Is there a sex-death connection?
 2.  Is the person who found her religious or a Scorpio?
 3.  Does the Number 13 have any meaning in the case?
 4.  Are there white horses or white flowers nearby?
 5.  On the card, the child is carrying flowers and holds the wrist of a person in a gray gown, who cannot be seen.
 6.  There is a cross on the glove of the religious figure on the card.  Will a cross be found near her or with her?
 7.  The skull looks out from the armor of the figure riding the horse.
 8.  Is there a pillar or post of any kind near where the body was found?
 9.  On the card, there is land with a little pond in it as well as the flowing river or stream.
10.  The sky on the card is gray, in spite of the sun on the horizon, and today was a gray and rainy day in Orlando./b]

I cut and pasted your post onto a word doc to look at later.
The white horses I'm thinking aren't horses as we think of the animal. Just a feeling, maybe the white horse could be a tree name (like Chestnut) with the flower or fruit being white on it when it blooms or develops. Those trees can also turn grey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 08:59:25 PM
Oh.. and why the hell was Mallory at the house today?  ::MonkeyNoNo::   (Surely she knew Lee wasn't there... and obviously Cindy and George were not at home)

Supposedly Mallory was there to tend to the dogs, feeding them and such, while the A's were out in Cali.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sassycat on December 11, 2008, 08:59:47 PM
http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

Click on chat, then in chat, click on Willen's name. (It often tells me there is no such user either, but you can still get in)


----------

Did you catch them say that Casey had to take a sedative when she heard the remains were found?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah.  Too bad they couldn't give her about 50 of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?

No, she didn't appear and I think the pre-trial has been moved to January and the trial to March?  Something like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 09:00:06 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.
Whoohoo let her come to Naples!  I will have a "WELCOME SLUNT" sign up just for her.
Let her go to Naples, but Dolce, please go to bed. I worry about you. Or at least eat something fattening. Please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:00:11 PM
More than dozen deputies at Anthony house. Waiting for warrant.

Wow

And now:

The Clash ~  "I Fought The Law"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4 

This is gonna be the song Casey is gonna be singing from now on...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 09:00:23 PM
MuffyBee, I agree about George's very precise and detailed description of what both Caylee and Casey were wearing the last time he saw them.  I don't know any man of any age who would remember all those details.  It seems phony to me from the start.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ilovegoodies on December 11, 2008, 09:00:31 PM
I have a vague recollection of reading that one of Casey's old friends or a friend of the the old friends works for the city why I think possibly meter reader I have no idea .I asked KCJackie and she said she remembers it to. Does anyone else remember this and where I might can find this. I am not implying this friend was who found the remains by any means.TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:00:35 PM
Looks like Spanish moss hanging on the trees at that location.  Little Caylee was covered by a canopy of Spanish moss.  I grew up in Louisiana so I am used to seeing it.  It looks really spooky at night though.
I was wondering if Florida had the moss like Louisiana, and Texas. When I saw gray, I thought of that moss.
Yes   we have lots and lots of moss.......thats what is hanging from the trees...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 09:01:14 PM
OK, I have a question, that I don't want to ask, but I want to know the answer to.
I know that the soft tissue is probably gone, but does hair decompose, and if so how long? 
I remember in the olden days they used to make hair "art" with hair from their family and loved ones, but wouldn't that help to identify whether it was likely a girl or a boy? 

Also would that hair still show chloroform in it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 09:01:19 PM
PUT IT ON NANCY GRACE. THEY HAVE CRIME SCENE TAPE UP ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.


Isn't this like closing the barn door after the horse got out?   ::MonkeyConfused::


I think it's standard operating procedure under the circumstances.  I'll bet they are looking very closely at things, and have a better idea of what to look for.  JMHO
Well George and Cindy have been putting up that tape for months...maybe it was a sign!
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: Cheeky Monkey you are!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 09:01:45 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?

Casey was never scheduled to appear at the pre-trial hearing today. She did not appear. It took just a few minutes. Jose Baez got the trial delayed until at least March. (Instead of Jan. 5)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 11, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
I will be so grateful if this is Caylee, but could we have Natalee too???  (And a live Madeline?)

Stacy too please.  And Trenton. 

Sooooooooo many missing....   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cherjers on December 11, 2008, 09:01:49 PM
I'll bet both Casey and Cindy are in a tailspin tonight unless they are totally knocked out by drugs.



I am so sorry, but I have just no sympathy for George and Cindy. They have been at the very minimum lying and trying to change facts ever since this case broke. I really don't care how they are faring tonight.

JMO, but a very strong one.
  Its hard to pity then-how can they go on Larry king tom night-can u imaging going on tv after they find your granddaughter in a garbage bag


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sirensong on December 11, 2008, 09:01:49 PM
Thank you Lord for answering our prayers. I know that Caylee has been in the arms of Jesus for several months, but for those of us on earth, we needed her found so badly.

Thank you for allowing us to have the remains of Caylee, so that she can finally have a place to rest. A place that is pretty and quiet, a place where those who love her can place a flower, say a prayer, shed a tear, and remember her.

Please be with all the people tonight who loved her.


That was beautiful, Orchidwmn.  Thank you.
  ♥♥♥♥AMEN♥♥♥♥




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:02:08 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465424,00.html

 The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing Orlando girl Caylee Anthony's family.

There was no immediate word on whether the bones, reportedly discovered wrapped in a plastic bag and bound with duct tape, were those of a boy or a girl.

"All we know is that remains of a child have been found," a police spokeswoman told FOXNews.com.

Orange County sheriffs and forensics teams were working at the scene at the intersection of South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive, on the edge of the Anthonys' neighborhood about 10 miles southeast of downtown Orlando.

Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons said that a utility worker found the body at 9:32 a.m. EST Thursday in a wooded area less than a half-mile from the house Caylee lived in with her grandparents and mother.

The water meter reader reportedly picked up the bag and a small skull rolled out that sources say strongly resembled that of a little girl.

There were reports of duct tape around the mouth area of the child's skull.

Police said the Anthony family has been notified of the discovery and no one is being allowed in their house. Sheriffs were preparing a search warrant for the Anthony home, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: IBE on December 11, 2008, 09:02:39 PM
Who is Dr. G?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
Oh.. and why the hell was Mallory at the house today?  ::MonkeyNoNo::   (Surely she knew Lee wasn't there... and obviously Cindy and George were not at home)

Supposedly Mallory was there to tend to the dogs, feeding them and such, while the A's were out in Cali.


Makes sense. We left 3 dogs for 3 days and it cost $400.00. Those charges add up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 11, 2008, 09:03:23 PM
I have had a heck of a time here today...getting kicked off....couldn;t get back in..did ya hear me knocking and cussing!!! 



Grab a vine and hang on Sunny!  We knew that was you out there...(knockin and cussin)   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

well Dang it.....why didn't ya open that dang door ::MonkeyWink::  I'd love to know what's on that darn search warrant


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 09:03:40 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.
Whoohoo let her come to Naples!  I will have a "WELCOME SLUNT" sign up just for her.
Let her go to Naples, but Dolce, please go to bed. I worry about you. Or at least eat something fattening. Please
LOL Hey!  My doctor said I was healthy and doing good at our last check up.  She said the babies are healthy as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 09:04:03 PM
Good idea, Boo.  I just realized that the Spanish moss on the trees is also gray.  Gosh, this is freaking me out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:04:04 PM

I am so sorry, but I have just no sympathy for George and Cindy. They have been at the very minimum lying and trying to change facts ever since this case broke. I really don't care how they are faring tonight.

JMO, but a very strong one.
  Its hard to pity then-how can they go on Larry king tom night-can u imaging going on tv after they find your granddaughter in a garbage bag
[/quote]
We could potentially know by then whether or not its Caylee. What kind of spin can they possibly put on this tomorrow? you heard Tim.. This bag was there for quite some time. It's in an area that Casey's own previously close friend felt strongly was a spot Caylee would have been...  and there is no Zanny..   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sassycat on December 11, 2008, 09:04:04 PM
I am going to be straming Greta Van Sustren at 10PM ET on fox news. She is covering the Caylee Case.

Caylee Found?
The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of Caylee Anthony's family. Greta is on the case and will have the latest developments tonight at 10 ET!


Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mammy on December 11, 2008, 09:04:44 PM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....

Yes, but they have said there are reports that tape was found on the skull itself.. not just on the bag?
I have only heard it was on the bag to hold it closed...the rest has been people speculating I think....

The man that found the body said the skull had duct tape across the mouth.  LE will not deny or confirm that it's true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:04:55 PM
Great news, Dolce!!
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 09:05:19 PM
They are going to go through the Anthony home and yard with a fine tooth comb, according to the Nancy Grace Show. They have now taped off more of an area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Danielle Van Dam was found in an area that had previously been searched.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 11, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?

Casey was never scheduled to appear at the pre-trial hearing today. She did not appear. It took just a few minutes. Jose Baez got the trial delayed until at least March. (Instead of Jan. 5)
Thanks Brandi. I'd heard on the news this morning she was going to appear so we'd get to see her.  Do you know what video I was talking about earlier?  She was leaving Baez's office and walked out to a car by an unknown man.  She was laughing it up and wearing a white shirt.  I'd never seen the video until today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:05:32 PM
OK, I have a question, that I don't want to ask, but I want to know the answer to.
I know that the soft tissue is probably gone, but does hair decompose, and if so how long? 
I remember in the olden days they used to make hair "art" with hair from their family and loved ones, but wouldn't that help to identify whether it was likely a girl or a boy? 

Also would that hair still show chloroform in it?

I'm pretty sure that hair would still be present.  I just remember in the Lori Hacking case, when they opened the bag she was in, they said her hair spilled out.  I think she was pretty decomposed, too (sorry, that sounds so gross).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:05:50 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18253946/detail.html

Sheriff: Definite Possibility Remains Are Caylee
Baez Files Emergency Motion Regarding Newly Found Remains

POSTED: 10:47 am EST December 11, 2008
UPDATED: 6:11 pm EST December 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A warrant is being sought to search the Anthony family home Thursday after remains of a small child were found nearby, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker that discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 and NBC News that duct tape was found on the mouth.


A medical examiner took the remains from the scene on Thursday afternoon.

Earlier Thursday, the Orange County Jail was notified and expected to inform Casey Anthony of the situation.

Sources said that upon hearing the news, Casey Anthony had what was described as an anxiety attack and requested sedatives.

Todd Black, the spokesman for Jose Baez, who is Casey Anthony's attorney, said Anthony's camp is currently taking a wait-and-see attitude regarding the discovery.

Black said they want to find out what exactly the discovery is sooner rather than later.

Baez went to the Orange County Jail to be with his client. Later Thursday, Baez filed an emergency motion to ensure his involvement in the testing of the newly found remains. A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 11:30.

Investigators have been at the scene all day, which is one third of a mile away from the Hopespring Drive home where Casey Anthony, 22, was staying with her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, and daughter, Caylee. (View Map)

WESH 2's Michelle Meredith reported that the area has been searched in the past because Casey Anthony spent time in the wooded area with her friends when she was in high school. Meredith said the area is very thick with trees and other vegetation.

According to Equusearch, volunteers tried to search the area, but it was underwater. When they returned, the area was blocked by a chain-link fence.

Tim Miller of Equusearch said he believes the remains are Caylee's and he expects to attend her funeral within a week.

"I feel very optimistic that these are the remains of Caylee. We don't have any other missing children in the Orlando area, especially that close to the Anthony home," Miller said.

Capt. Angelo Nieves said investigators will continue to evaluate and process the scene thoughout the day and likely into the night.

"It is very early. We want to proceed carefully and methodically," Nieves said.

"I am not at liberty to provide any additional information that could compromise this case," Nieves said when prodded by reporters to draw conclusions regarding Caylee's disappearance.

Meredith said the feeling on the scene shortly after the find was much more urgent than when bounty hunter Leonard Padilla found possible bones weeks ago in a retention pond.

"It appears they have something very significant," Meredith said. "It is being taken very, very seriously."

Leonard Padilla said his team did not search the area where the bones were found, but he drove by it several times.

The exact age or the gender of the child is unknown, and investigators are not connecting the remains to the Anthony case, but Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said it is definitely a possibility that the remains are Caylee's.

Beary said it is confirmed that a human skull was found. He also said the area where the discovery was made was flooded during earlier searches.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder. Prosecutors said she killed her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July.

The Anthony family has been notified. They were still in California after Wednesday night's "Larry King Live" television appearance, but WESH 2's Bob Kealing reported that they are currently headed back to Orlando.

Lead investigator John Allen called grandmother Cindy Anthony after the body was found, WESH 2's Bob Kealing said.

Earlier this week, the state attorney's office decided to not seek the death penalty for mother Casey Anthony, but a source from the state attorney's office said Thursday that if the body does belong to Caylee, the death penalty may be back on the table.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:06:29 PM
OK, I have a question, that I don't want to ask, but I want to know the answer to.
I know that the soft tissue is probably gone, but does hair decompose, and if so how long? 
I remember in the olden days they used to make hair "art" with hair from their family and loved ones, but wouldn't that help to identify whether it was likely a girl or a boy? 

Also would that hair still show chloroform in it?

I'm pretty sure that hair would still be present.  I just remember in the Lori Hacking case, when they opened the bag she was in, they said her hair spilled out.  I think she was pretty decomposed, too (sorry, that sounds so gross).

And one of the forensic guys said it was possible that chloroform could be detected in the hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465424,00.html

 The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing Orlando girl Caylee Anthony's family.

There was no immediate word on whether the bones, reportedly discovered wrapped in a plastic bag and bound with duct tape, were those of a boy or a girl.

"All we know is that remains of a child have been found," a police spokeswoman told FOXNews.com.

Orange County sheriffs and forensics teams were working at the scene at the intersection of South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive, on the edge of the Anthonys' neighborhood about 10 miles southeast of downtown Orlando.

Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons said that a utility worker found the body at 9:32 a.m. EST Thursday in a wooded area less than a half-mile from the house Caylee lived in with her grandparents and mother.

The water meter reader reportedly picked up the bag and a small skull rolled out that sources say strongly resembled that of a little girl.

There were reports of duct tape around the mouth area of the child's skull.

Police said the Anthony family has been notified of the discovery and no one is being allowed in their house. Sheriffs were preparing a search warrant for the Anthony home, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.
yea  but the skull p[rolly got caught on the tape after it fell out of the bag....Heck I  dont know, I just  know that the bag was taped shut with the tape.........anything else I dont want to think  about!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:07:35 PM
Who is Dr. G?

Dr G Medical Examiner. Has her own show. She rocks!!  http://health.discovery.com/fansites/drg/drg-fansite.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littleone on December 11, 2008, 09:08:06 PM
I will be so grateful if this is Caylee, but could we have Natalee too???  (And a live Madeline?)

Stacy too please.  And Trenton. 

Sooooooooo many missing....   ::MonkeyWaa::


I would love to add Mr. Ray Gricar to the list... ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 11, 2008, 09:08:12 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:08:16 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 09:09:22 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?

Casey was never scheduled to appear at the pre-trial hearing today. She did not appear. It took just a few minutes. Jose Baez got the trial delayed until at least March. (Instead of Jan. 5)
Thanks Brandi. I'd heard on the news this morning she was going to appear so we'd get to see her.  Do you know what video I was talking about earlier?  She was leaving Baez's office and walked out to a car by an unknown man.  She was laughing it up and wearing a white shirt.  I'd never seen the video until today?

Don't recall the video you are mentioning, no.

I did watch the pre-trial hearing on a video this morning. It is probably still up on a news site. I just have no time to look it up for you right now. And, as I said, Casey did not attend.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 11, 2008, 09:10:10 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 
  Not a stupid ? cause I had thought the same thing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 09:10:18 PM
Defense attorneys want to change venues ... Rumor has it that the Martians think Casey is guilty as hell.
Whoohoo let her come to Naples!  I will have a "WELCOME SLUNT" sign up just for her.
Let her go to Naples, but Dolce, please go to bed. I worry about you. Or at least eat something fattening. Please
LOL Hey!  My doctor said I was healthy and doing good at our last check up.  She said the babies are healthy as well.
Good. That is all I need to know. I just worry about you. Keep those babies safe and free from reading about crazy people. Glad to know you are well. I do worry about you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:10:36 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 

Not necessarily and there may still be some soft tissue as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:10:53 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 
Yes it would!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 11, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
Not sure if you all caught this thread on WS, but it's about the woman who took the bag/s of trash from the Anthony home.. the one with the cut up hat in it.   The woman still has the bag/s and it's possible it was from the same roll as the bag with these remains. 

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76255
I never would have thought of that--I hope le does


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:11:09 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 

yeah, good question


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Case coming up next on Hannity & Colmes!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 

Well, if duct tape had been put on the mouth... perhaps the tape enabled the soft tissue just under the tape to stay on the skull longer? The guy on NG said that if the body was in plastic, and under water, there might have been some soft tissue still there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 09:11:30 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18253946/detail.html

Sheriff: Definite Possibility Remains Are Caylee
Baez Files Emergency Motion Regarding Newly Found Remains

POSTED: 10:47 am EST December 11, 2008
UPDATED: 6:11 pm EST December 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A warrant is being sought to search the Anthony family home Thursday after remains of a small child were found nearby, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker that discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 and NBC News that duct tape was found on the mouth.


A medical examiner took the remains from the scene on Thursday afternoon.

Earlier Thursday, the Orange County Jail was notified and expected to inform Casey Anthony of the situation.

Sources said that upon hearing the news, Casey Anthony had what was described as an anxiety attack and requested sedatives.

Todd Black, the spokesman for Jose Baez, who is Casey Anthony's attorney, said Anthony's camp is currently taking a wait-and-see attitude regarding the discovery.

Black said they want to find out what exactly the discovery is sooner rather than later.

Baez went to the Orange County Jail to be with his client. Later Thursday, Baez filed an emergency motion to ensure his involvement in the testing of the newly found remains. A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 11:30.

Investigators have been at the scene all day, which is one third of a mile away from the Hopespring Drive home where Casey Anthony, 22, was staying with her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, and daughter, Caylee. (View Map)

WESH 2's Michelle Meredith reported that the area has been searched in the past because Casey Anthony spent time in the wooded area with her friends when she was in high school. Meredith said the area is very thick with trees and other vegetation.

According to Equusearch, volunteers tried to search the area, but it was underwater. When they returned, the area was blocked by a chain-link fence.

Tim Miller of Equusearch said he believes the remains are Caylee's and he expects to attend her funeral within a week.

"I feel very optimistic that these are the remains of Caylee. We don't have any other missing children in the Orlando area, especially that close to the Anthony home," Miller said.

Capt. Angelo Nieves said investigators will continue to evaluate and process the scene thoughout the day and likely into the night.

"It is very early. We want to proceed carefully and methodically," Nieves said.

"I am not at liberty to provide any additional information that could compromise this case," Nieves said when prodded by reporters to draw conclusions regarding Caylee's disappearance.

Meredith said the feeling on the scene shortly after the find was much more urgent than when bounty hunter Leonard Padilla found possible bones weeks ago in a retention pond.

"It appears they have something very significant," Meredith said. "It is being taken very, very seriously."

Leonard Padilla said his team did not search the area where the bones were found, but he drove by it several times.

The exact age or the gender of the child is unknown, and investigators are not connecting the remains to the Anthony case, but Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said it is definitely a possibility that the remains are Caylee's.

Beary said it is confirmed that a human skull was found. He also said the area where the discovery was made was flooded during earlier searches.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder. Prosecutors said she killed her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July.

The Anthony family has been notified. They were still in California after Wednesday night's "Larry King Live" television appearance, but WESH 2's Bob Kealing reported that they are currently headed back to Orlando.

Lead investigator John Allen called grandmother Cindy Anthony after the body was found, WESH 2's Bob Kealing said.

Earlier this week, the state attorney's office decided to not seek the death penalty for mother Casey Anthony, but a source from the state attorney's office said Thursday that if the body does belong to Caylee, the death penalty may be back on the table.

I didn't know that a skeletal skull had a "mouth." Jaw, yes. Anyway, I am awaiting better sources to tell me where the duct tape was found.

But, that's just me ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: truthseeker2 on December 11, 2008, 09:11:30 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I saw that too.  I had to turn it.  Too creepy on this day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:12:19 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 11, 2008, 09:13:14 PM
This morning was the pre-trial and heard that Casey was to appear.  Anything showing her on the news today?  I saw a segment showing her with a pink purse and head band but wondered if this was shot earlier?  Anyone know?

Casey was never scheduled to appear at the pre-trial hearing today. She did not appear. It took just a few minutes. Jose Baez got the trial delayed until at least March. (Instead of Jan. 5)
Thanks Brandi. I'd heard on the news this morning she was going to appear so we'd get to see her.  Do you know what video I was talking about earlier?  She was leaving Baez's office and walked out to a car by an unknown man.  She was laughing it up and wearing a white shirt.  I'd never seen the video until today?

Don't recall the video you are mentioning, no.

I did watch the pre-trial hearing on a video this morning. It is probably still up on a news site. I just have no time to look it up for you right now. And, as I said, Casey did not attend. 
  Okay thanks Brandi!  I'll go check and if I find it I'll post it.  It just made me sick seeing her laughing and acting like a spoiled brat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2008, 09:14:04 PM
Friday Night's 20-20 on ABC will focus on today's events.  Just heard the promo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:14:19 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18253946/detail.html

Sheriff: Definite Possibility Remains Are Caylee
Baez Files Emergency Motion Regarding Newly Found Remains

POSTED: 10:47 am EST December 11, 2008
UPDATED: 6:11 pm EST December 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A warrant is being sought to search the Anthony family home Thursday after remains of a small child were found nearby, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker that discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 and NBC News that duct tape was found on the mouth.


I didn't know that a skeletal skull had a "mouth." Jaw, yes. Anyway, I am awaiting better sources to tell me where the duct tape was found.

But, that's just me ;-)

If you saw a skull, with teeth... a person would probably refer to that area as the mouth.  Jaw area, you think of the jaw bone itself.. but had it been over the teeth area, obviously that would have been the mouth.. were it covered with flesh, etc..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Justice0 on December 11, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
So they said that when the worker who found the bag seen the skull it had duct tape around mouth, I wonder if that night when Cindy And KC had that fight if Caylee was crying for GM and KC tapped her mouth to stop her from crying.LP also sais that a Hotel worker seen her at 1:50 in the am at that night acing with her cell phone, I bet Caylee was placed in trunk and bound with duct tape, There has to be some hair stuck on that tape or something, Also Caylee was 35 40 pounds so that means her body was placed in that bag and possibly thrown in the woods,how can a regular trash bag sustain that weight without tearing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 11, 2008, 09:15:04 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 

Have any of the LE used the words skeleton?  I don't remember.  Or have they only used remains?  When I heard skull I assumed skeleton, but that may not be accurate.

The 1st officer on the scene knew right away it was human, I ask myself why.  They also immediately identify as a girl, again I ask why.  IMO the only way that duck tape could be over the mouth area is if there was soft tissue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 09:15:15 PM
TREE CUTTING~~ I was flipping station during NG and on O'Reilly they were playing a video from the search and right next to one of the "legs" of the blue canopy one of the people in the yellow rain coats were shaking and what looked like poking or possibly cutting at the base of the tree from what it looked like it was a small tree width wise....They were shaking the heck out of it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:15:22 PM
edit...

http://www.wesh.com/news/18253946/detail.html

Sheriff: Definite Possibility Remains Are Caylee
Baez Files Emergency Motion Regarding Newly Found Remains

POSTED: 10:47 am EST December 11, 2008
UPDATED: 6:11 pm EST December 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A warrant is being sought to search the Anthony family home Thursday after remains of a small child were found nearby, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker that discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 and NBC News that duct tape was found on the mouth.

I didn't know that a skeletal skull had a "mouth." Jaw, yes. Anyway, I am awaiting better sources to tell me where the duct tape was found.

But, that's just me ;-)

If you saw a skull, with teeth... a person would probably refer to that area as the mouth.  Jaw area, you think of the jaw bone itself.. but had it been over the teeth area, obviously that would have been the mouth.. were it covered with flesh, etc..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I have to get up early and go to work  ::MonkeyWaa:: I hate to say this, but I pray they have found Caylee. I so wanted her to be alive in the begining, but when the forensics came out I knew she wasn't. Maybe now she can have a proper burial. God Bless and Peace out all Monkeys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 09:16:03 PM
trimm, i luv your puppy (granddog-digger?) he's beautiful. sorry o/t

Thanks. I'm fixin' to go snuggle with him in a few minutes.It's been a long,sad day. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 09:16:49 PM
Friday Night's 20-20 on ABC will focus on today's events.  Just heard the promo.


Thanks, Texas & I guess we have to hear all this other crap first on Hannity, they said the case would be coming up!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mammy on December 11, 2008, 09:17:12 PM
Ok I am going to ask a stupid question here...stop me if you have heard this one...

If duct tape was found on the mouth, how is that possible if it bones? Would the duct tape not leave with the soft tissue and fall off into the bag? 

Someone speaking on the case said it wouldn't come off if it had been wraped around her head.  (too many speaking today for me to remember who it was)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:17:27 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

Hi QuietMonkey!  No, you're not invisible - it is just busy and everyone has so many thoughts running though their heads.  I feel invisible sometimes, too. 
I don't understand how KC could live with herself, either.  Or make things up and lie so easily.
It's good to see you - thanks again for the coffee this morning.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:17:29 PM
So they said that when the worker who found the bag seen the skull it had duct tape around mouth, I wonder if that night when Cindy And KC had that fight if Caylee was crying for GM and KC tapped her mouth to stop her from crying.LP also sais that a Hotel worker seen her at 1:50 in the am at that night acing with her cell phone, I bet Caylee was placed in trunk and bound with duct tape, There has to be some hair stuck on that tape or something, Also Caylee was 35 40 pounds so that means her body was placed in that bag and possibly thrown in the woods,how can a regular trash bag sustain that weight without tearing?

Well, at this point there is no way to know for sure if Casey drove by and dumped the bag out the window or something. Somebody else posted here earlier, about the guy who claimed to have seen Casey running in that area..  (was this the same incident where she told him no, it wasn't her?)

You might have something with the keeping her quiet part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 09:17:45 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I have to get up early and go to work  ::MonkeyWaa:: I hate to say this, but I pray they have found Caylee. I so wanted her to be alive in the begining, but when the forensics came out I knew she wasn't. Maybe now she can have a proper burial. God Bless and Peace out all Monkeys.


'Nite Joesamas. Sleep tight (don't let Joe bite)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:17:57 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

Nope, not invisible but I do have to admit I was watching NG in the other room and may have missed some posts  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 11, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I have to get up early and go to work  ::MonkeyWaa:: I hate to say this, but I pray they have found Caylee. I so wanted her to be alive in the begining, but when the forensics came out I knew she wasn't. Maybe now she can have a proper burial. God Bless and Peace out all Monkeys.


Nite, Joesama's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:18:52 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I have to get up early and go to work  ::MonkeyWaa:: I hate to say this, but I pray they have found Caylee. I so wanted her to be alive in the begining, but when the forensics came out I knew she wasn't. Maybe now she can have a proper burial. God Bless and Peace out all Monkeys.

goodnight joesamas.....sleep tight, and at least if this is Caylee we know she is no longer laying out in the dark cold woods.....God Bless Her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 09:18:53 PM
Tim seemed convinced tha the bag has been in the woods all this time.  But if it were at the  house, why would someone move it now????  If it were in the freezer, the body might be pretty intact.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Bearlyhere on December 11, 2008, 09:19:06 PM
For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Thank you, WF!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:19:38 PM
Good night Joesamas mama


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 11, 2008, 09:20:18 PM
I have been here for the past 10 out of 11 hours.

It's been a very draining day.

I need a break.

Good night to all monkeys who have left and hello to all those who just got here, and I will see you all when I have more energy to think.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight.gif)

Bless little Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:20:38 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I have to get up early and go to work  ::MonkeyWaa:: I hate to say this, but I pray they have found Caylee. I so wanted her to be alive in the begining, but when the forensics came out I knew she wasn't. Maybe now she can have a proper burial. God Bless and Peace out all Monkeys.


Goodnight, joesamas.  Hope you sleep well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:21:25 PM
Good night Brandi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
Goodnight Brandi.................I see you 3bsmom...........Just saying hi...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:22:43 PM
I'm glad to know I'm not invisible, just paranoid! ::MonkeyHaHa::
Your welcome 3bsmom, I'll have some nice warm coffee tomorrow too! Klass thanks for letting me know you see me too. Everything is moving so fast in here, it is so hard to keep up. I must just have bad timing in here! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
I have been here for the past 10 out of 11 hours.

It's been a very draining day.

I need a break.

Good night to all monkeys who have left and hello to all those who just got here, and I will see you all when I have more energy to think.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight.gif)

Bless little Caylee.

Goodnight Brandi!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 09:23:16 PM
Goodnight to the monkeys that are heading off to bed!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 09:23:38 PM
11:53 a.m. -- The weather has worsened over the search site.  Sherrif's deputies are working to preserve the scene and investigators say the body is badly decomposed.  KidFinders Network has sent a representative to the search site.

This was posted on the myfoxorlando site earlier today..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:23:55 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

I see you  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:25:04 PM
They are going to be talking about case on Hannity & Colmes shortly. Still talking about Ill gov. now. That would be FNC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 09:25:10 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

You're not invisible QuietMonkey.I think everybody's brains are frazzled right now.I have wondered about the same things.It is hard to believe....monsters are real.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Goodnight Brandi.................I see you 3bsmom...........Just saying hi...

Thanks, HH.  Nice to see you!  I've enjoyed reading your input today.  It's amazing how emotionally draining today has been, huh?  And I've just been sitting in front of my computer and TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:25:53 PM

Adding, when there is huge news and things are moving so fast, I do not even see myself!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
I'm glad to know I'm not invisible, just paranoid! ::MonkeyHaHa::
Your welcome 3bsmom, I'll have some nice warm coffee tomorrow too! Klass thanks for letting me know you see me too. Everything is moving so fast in here, it is so hard to keep up. I must just have bad timing in here! ::MonkeyRoll::

QuietMonkey ~  Sometimes when the boards are busy like this, it's not as easy to answer everyone, and sometimes you may say something we agree with but don't comment on.  And some were trying to look at news, so I hope you understand.   I wasn't posting much a while ago, simply to keep "traffic" down, since the site was so busy.   I was afraid if I posted, I would get knocked off, or knock someone else off.   You aren't invisible.  No one is invisible.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:26:45 PM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

I see you  ::MonkeyWink::

Awww thanks Shell!! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: theboyzmom on December 11, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
I really do not understand how Casey could have sat in her house and knew that her little girl was out in the rain and cold all alone. I know that after I buried our son (Feb in Michigan) I was nuts thinking about him in the ground all cold and alone. The fact that she let her lie so near the house makes me hate her even more than before. :evil: :evil:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 11, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
Good Night Monkeys-I am so happy they found Caylee-and so sad that they did


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 09:28:37 PM
Quiet Monkey   (http://i37.tinypic.com/e0r9l1.gif)

I just can't hear you, you are so QUIET!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:29:22 PM
I'm glad to know I'm not invisible, just paranoid! ::MonkeyHaHa::
Your welcome 3bsmom, I'll have some nice warm coffee tomorrow too! Klass thanks for letting me know you see me too. Everything is moving so fast in here, it is so hard to keep up. I must just have bad timing in here! ::MonkeyRoll::

Great - I'll be ready for more in the morning.   ::MonkeyWink::
Don't worry about feeling a little paranoid today.  I have been like that and a grouch all day.  I think it's because we have emotionally involved ourselves so much in Caylee.  And now this big turn of events.  I think it is taking it's toll on us.  Sadly, we are all more affected by this than Caylee's own blood relatives. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
Goodnight Brandi.................I see you 3bsmom...........Just saying hi...

Thanks, HH.  Nice to see you!  I've enjoyed reading your input today.  It's amazing how emotionally draining today has been, huh?  And I've just been sitting in front of my computer and TV.
Thank you,   I was trying to help those Monkeys that was at work today and I just couldnt type fast enough to keep up with the news that was coming out......Yea  Ive been here a long time to,  running back and forth doing what had to be done here and I feel like Ive run a marathon......But Im so happy that that baby has been found so that she can finally rest in peace!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:30:28 PM
Thanks everymonkey! I understand it gets so busy. I guess it's just earlier I made several posts, and then again tonight and felt invisible. So, I'm just being a silly monkey worrying again! I know all the monkeys here are nice and friendly. Honestly, I haven't met a monkey I didn't like yet! Thanks Monkers!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:31:19 PM
Good Night Monkeys-I am so happy they found Caylee-and so sad that they did

Good night cherjers.  I know what you mean...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: islandmonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho


It surely doesn't bother me as i believe he was correct, the water was too high and he was worried if a 4-wheeler ran over her or any evidence it would either push it deeper into the muck where it may have never been found or crushed her little body so bad that the evidence could be compromised. As for LP, I just think he an Tim have different styles, LP is somewhat of a media whore (remember he told Tim that they could find her in the little ECON and Tim could hold her skull in his hands for all the media to film), that's just not Tim's style~he searches because he can't say no to a family, and LP, well I won't even go there.   

A monkey a while ago asked me to make this for them because of her broken heart for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: AZSunny on December 11, 2008, 09:34:37 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:34:55 PM
Thanks everymonkey! I understand it gets so busy. I guess it's just earlier I made several posts, and then again tonight and felt invisible. So, I'm just being a silly monkey worrying again! I know all the monkeys here are nice and friendly. Honestly, I haven't met a monkey I didn't like yet! Thanks Monkers!

 ::MonkeyDance::


It's all good QuietMonkey!   :smt024


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:36:03 PM
Ok now that I have every monkeys attention, I realize I have to go for the night. Going to watch ER shortly. Night and thanks so much monkeys!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::Monkeys Rule!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:37:29 PM
 Good night (not so)QuietMonkey   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 11, 2008, 09:37:40 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna go to the bunkey...I can't even think of anything else to say right now. God Bless Little Caylee.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FL Beagle Mom on December 11, 2008, 09:37:43 PM
Orlando has a 24 hour news channel you can listen to.

http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Caylee/default.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:38:35 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
I do not understand what is wrong with this statement......I heard it on NG,    but what is the problem with the syayement ....why ask are they all crazy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:38:50 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna go to the bunkey...I can't even think of anything else to say right now. God Bless Little Caylee.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good night Trimm.  And your last sentence says it all:  "God Bless Little Caylee".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 11, 2008, 09:39:06 PM
Goodnight Brandi.................I see you 3bsmom...........Just saying hi...

Thanks, HH.  Nice to see you!  I've enjoyed reading your input today.  It's amazing how emotionally draining today has been, huh?  And I've just been sitting in front of my computer and TV.
Thank you,   I was trying to help those Monkeys that was at work today and I just couldnt type fast enough to keep up with the news that was coming out......Yea  Ive been here a long time to,  running back and forth doing what had to be done here and I feel like Ive run a marathon......But Im so happy that that baby has been found so that she can finally rest in peace!

I'm happy she's been found, too, HH.  May our precious Caylee rest in peace.

CharlieGirl - I don't see you on here, but maybe you can't get in and are viewing as a guest.  I've been thinking of you today and hoping you're doing alright with the finding of Caylee.  Hope to talk to you soon.

Goodnight, Monkeys.  It has been great to be here today with all of you who love Caylee.  Sleep well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 11, 2008, 09:39:26 PM
Well, I have officially been totally absorbed in this for, oh, twelve/twelve and half hours.  Time for the monkey bunk.  I work in the morning so nothing can happen until after noon, 'kay?

Sleep well monkey friends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:40:07 PM
Orlando has a 24 hour news channel you can listen to.

http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Caylee/default.aspx

Thank you for the link, Mags.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 11, 2008, 09:41:00 PM
So they said that when the worker who found the bag seen the skull it had duct tape around mouth, I wonder if that night when Cindy And KC had that fight if Caylee was crying for GM and KC tapped her mouth to stop her from crying.LP also sais that a Hotel worker seen her at 1:50 in the am at that night acing with her cell phone, I bet Caylee was placed in trunk and bound with duct tape, There has to be some hair stuck on that tape or something, Also Caylee was 35 40 pounds so that means her body was placed in that bag and possibly thrown in the woods,how can a regular trash bag sustain that weight without tearing?

Well, at this point there is no way to know for sure if Casey drove by and dumped the bag out the window or something. Somebody else posted here earlier, about the guy who claimed to have seen Casey running in that area..  (was this the same incident where she told him no, it wasn't her?)

You might have something with the keeping her quiet part.

Ooh I remember that, it was a friend of hers. I would like to know when that happened as well and if it was around this area. Maybe she was just going by there to check and see if Caylee was still where she put her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:41:08 PM
Well, I have officially been totally absorbed in this for, oh, twelve/twelve and half hours.  Time for the monkey bunk.  I work in the morning so nothing can happen until after noon, 'kay?

Sleep well monkey friends.

Nite GN


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
Well, I have officially been totally absorbed in this for, oh, twelve/twelve and half hours.  Time for the monkey bunk.  I work in the morning so nothing can happen until after noon, 'kay?

Sleep well monkey friends.
Goodnight GG.................sleep peacefully...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:41:36 PM
Good night to all the monkeys heading for the monkey bunkey.  Who would have imagined when we got up this morning that this would be the day little Caylee would be found?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 09:45:18 PM
Believe it or not, they are even covering it on Hannity and Colmbs.  I had it on in the background.  Talking to Kimberly, Cecil Wecht (famous forensics scientist) and Gloria Red.  Say they should know by next week, if not ealier.

Also, Greta back on the case.  But she has a producer down there on the scene.  They are usually good at gettting info.  Should be interesting.   Dr. Wecht has some positive items possibly found from body under circumstances in bag.

So I would recommend them and then Greta.....


LOL  Hannity and Colmbs are actually in agreement for a change on this case, for the most part!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jaimee on December 11, 2008, 09:45:50 PM
Beaz Statement

http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 09:47:24 PM
Oops, I meant Gloria ALLRed!

LOL  Kimberly Guilfoyle just said Casey and Scott Peterson are perfect matches.  Coulda hooked up on Match.com!  ::MonkeyEek::
Now THAT is scary.  My thought is, she is more in Joran's line and they are two peas in a pod!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

  mio say's.>>>-->>>  omg, I am watching this csi too, and I could not believe that opening scene, a  dead man  put in a plastic bag, then dropped into a shallow stream, half covered with water, rained on, then they showed what was going on inside the bag,,,,,,,,,talk about freaky, and dang, so sad as well, .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
From Duct Tape Evidence to Potential Insanity Plea, Anthony Trial Could Be One to Watch

Thursday, December 11, 2008

By Joshua Rhett Miller
<snip>
If the duct tape-bound remains are proven to be those of Caylee — who has been missing since June -- the method used to dispose of the body will become a significant factor in the first-degree murder trial of the girl's mother, Casey Anthony, attorney Scott H. Cupp said.

"That obviously shows a level of deliberation," Cupp said. "One would think something like that would be done prior to the actual event. But you could make a strong argument as a prosecutor that the child's mouth was bound to keep her from making noises."
<snip>
"In any case where someone is charged with killing a child, the first thing you explore is some type of psychiatric defense," he said. "No one in their right mind would do something like this, so I'd hire my own experts to examine and explore her mental history and behavior to see if I can mount some type of psychiatric defense. No criminal would commit such a crime in such a fashion unless there was a psychiatric component."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465784,00.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 11, 2008, 09:49:23 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 09:49:41 PM
I also want to thank ALL the monkeys posting all day while I was at work!  I was freakin' all day, while reading, but not able to post or watch live video, as others who have big brother watching over us!

So PLEASE,  keep it up during the day!   I would be lost!  THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littletxlady on December 11, 2008, 09:50:08 PM
Kind of O/T
I was going thru one of KC's online storage pics and icons and I found this. I don't know if this icon has been posted or not. But it is interesting since JO supposedly didn't date her.
Here is a little video KC made of Caylee i found in her pics also it is so sweet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:50:52 PM
Believe it or not, they are even covering it on Hannity and Colmbs.  I had it on in the background.  Talking to Kimberly, Cecil Wecht (famous forensics scientist) and Gloria Red.  Say they should know by next week, if not ealier.

Also, Greta back on the case.  But she has a producer down there on the scene.  They are usually good at gettting info.  Should be interesting.   Dr. Wecht has some positive items possibly found from body under circumstances in bag.

So I would recommend them and then Greta.....


LOL  Hannity and Colmbs are actually in agreement for a change on this case, for the most part!

That is because they both are intelligent people. Well, Hannity more so than C, but lets not get political. hehe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 09:50:55 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:50:59 PM
Beaz Statement

http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18259469/index.html)

Thanks Jaimee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:52:14 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 

It really is sad.  I could hear my one of my neighbors daughters singing in the backyard today, while she played.  It reminded me  of Caylee.

I fear there is a lot of ugliness ahead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 09:53:04 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 

Welcome Grandma2Maddie

I can't transcribe the entire thing but he was very kind and was kind about the Anthonys but made it clear he felt Casey and Casey alone was responsible for Caylee's death. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
Welcome to Scared Monkeys Grandma2Maddie  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:54:33 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 

Welcome!

Basically he just stated that he feels its time for Cindy and George to "let go and let God".  He believes that Casey alone knows what happened to Caylee, and that the reason he was no longer the Anthony's attorney was because he did not believe she was alive.. and he did not believe Casey was innocent.  (So he didn't give much credence to the recent mall and restaurant sightings).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 09:54:48 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

  mio say's.>>>-->>>  omg, I am watching this csi too, and I could not believe that opening scene, a  dead man  put in a plastic bag, then dropped into a shallow stream, half covered with water, rained on, then they showed what was going on inside the bag,,,,,,,,,talk about freaky, and dang, so sad as well, .

Did either of you learn from the show, that might help in this case?  DH was watching CSI when I got home, all I saw was it was the one where Kevin Federline was in, so wasn't interested.   Was that the same show and I missed it???/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 09:54:50 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 09:55:38 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 
  Everytime they play that video of Caylee singing I tear up.  My granddaughter is a little younger than Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 
Welcome. Someone I believe Dolce posted what he all said, somewhere in the last thread. But I'm sure someone on here remembers what he all had to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 

It really is sad.  I could hear my one of my neighbors daughters singing in the backyard today, while she played.  It reminded me  of Caylee.

I fear there is a lot of ugliness ahead.

I know Muffy, I fear the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:56:07 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 

It really is sad.  I could hear my one of my neighbors daughters singing in the backyard today, while she played.  It reminded me  of Caylee.

I fear there is a lot of ugliness ahead.
I fear this also Muffy,,,,,,,,,,My daughter started crying when she got home and found out that a body had been found....She said....I told everybody that she was somewhere around their house...I just knew it.......and stomped off to her room..............There's no telling what we are gonna find  out in the coming days....it could get very ugly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 11, 2008, 09:56:15 PM
Night monkeys... I've got a killer headache now, and I think I'll watch Greta while I have the ability to keep my eyes open.

I pray and hope this is Caylee. It just has to be her!!
(And they said on Hannity and Colmes, I believe, that there are no other toddlers reported missing in the area..)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 

Welcome!

Basically he just stated that he feels its time for Cindy and George to "let go and let God".  He believes that Casey alone knows what happened to Caylee, and that the reason he was no longer the Anthony's attorney was because he did not believe she was alive.. and he did not believe Casey was innocent.  (So he didn't give much credence to the recent mall and restaurant sightings).


WELCOME NEW MONKEY! GLAD YOU JOINED!   I'm not good at answering link questions, or I would give it to you.  But  looks like Orchid took care of ya! ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 09:58:36 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.
I heard him say that the area where the body was laying left and indention in the fround and it had been there awhile,    then he said you know like if you were to pick up a log and it left a dent in the ground and the grass was dead under it,  using that as and exanple....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 11, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 

I have not watched that video, and will not. My heart can't take it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 09:59:10 PM
Night monkeys... I've got a killer headache now, and I think I'll watch Greta while I have the ability to keep my eyes open.

I pray and hope this is Caylee. It just has to be her!!
(And they said on Hannity and Colmes, I believe, that there are no other toddlers reported missing in the area..)
Good Night to you and all other monkeys going off to bed. I've got a headache also, I think from all the news and sadness of the day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
One of the things that I really think is sad is the video of Caylee that was played on NG tonight.

Her sweet lil voice singing "Please don't take my sunshine away"

What a sad sad story this has turned out to be. 

That tore me up!  I wanted her to quit showing it.  Broke my heart!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 10:00:58 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: I was stuck outside again....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
They have now entered the home and yard and garage of the Anthonys per Greta show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:01:46 PM
Greta on the case right now.  Her producer at the A's house!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 10:02:03 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 

Welcome!

Basically he just stated that he feels its time for Cindy and George to "let go and let God".  He believes that Casey alone knows what happened to Caylee, and that the reason he was no longer the Anthony's attorney was because he did not believe she was alive.. and he did not believe Casey was innocent.  (So he didn't give much credence to the recent mall and restaurant sightings).
Thank you all for the welcome!  I also wanted to say that on the Jane V Mitchell show on 204 from 6-7 pm CST said that there was no reason that decomposition would cause the skull to be detached the body.  I remember one of the searches she did was for neck breaking. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:02:52 PM
Good night anothermonkey and to all monkeys headed for the bunkey

OT/ Shell ~ congratulations on your new grand daughter and I'm glad it looks like things are moving along better with your new home.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Truth Seeker on December 11, 2008, 10:03:19 PM
Oh dear little Caylee!  I did not have my TV on all day and just saw the horrible news.  I guess we knew this day would probably come, but I still held out a tiny bit of hope.

My heart goes out to George and Cindy.  I know how most people feel, but I don't think I could have accepted the possibility as long as there was even a wisper of hope.

Welcone Grandma!  When things settle down would love to hear about your dear ones!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
They have now entered the home and yard and garage of the Anthonys per Greta show.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
Another monkey posted this earlier, and I just got to listen to it now, and WOW!  Nejame has really redeemed himself in my opinion with this phone call, (even though he still looks like Dracula!)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8053263&version=1&locale=EN-US)
  First time poster here so be kind.  Can someone say what Nejame said.  I have dial up so can't listen to it. 

Welcome!

Basically he just stated that he feels its time for Cindy and George to "let go and let God".  He believes that Casey alone knows what happened to Caylee, and that the reason he was no longer the Anthony's attorney was because he did not believe she was alive.. and he did not believe Casey was innocent.  (So he didn't give much credence to the recent mall and restaurant sightings).
Thank you all for the welcome!  I also wanted to say that on the Jane V Mitchell show on 204 from 6-7 pm CST said that there was no reason that decomposition would cause the skull to be detached the body.  I remember one of the searches she did was for neck breaking. 
OMG I just figured due to decomp the skull was detache. Also per Greta the LE is also in the shed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 10:04:31 PM
For those that want to listen to Greta Van Sustren but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again.

This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: AZSunny on December 11, 2008, 10:04:41 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.  LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
I do not understand what is wrong with this statement......I heard it on NG,    but what is the problem with the syayement ....why ask are they all crazy?

I was asking the highlighted area above.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: can on December 11, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
Welcome Grandma2Maddie!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 10:05:28 PM
OCSD has to  be given credit for the way they have acted today.
The scene was handled well, Cindy and George were effectively shut up and out of their house. Mallory wasn't let back into the house. They are keeping the info to themselves as to what else was in the bag. My kudos to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:05:37 PM
Per Phil Keating on Greta  (same  rumors from earlier)   NO clothes with the body,   LE won't confirm ANYTHING about duct tape, but other items in bag.   Also said other people on the A's flight home today, said they just seemed consumed and there was a huge amout of LE at airport to pick them up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:06:01 PM
Thank you for your reports from Greta.  I'm downstairs on puter, no tv.

Flamom ~  I'm glad you managed to get back in the cage


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
OCSD has to  be given credit for the way they have acted today.
The scene was handled well, Cindy and George were effectively shut up and out of their house. Mallory wasn't let back into the house. They are keeping the info to themselves as to what else was in the bag. My kudos to them.

They have done a great job all along, LE took the Anthonys through a backdoor or sidedoor that is why there is no video of them at airport.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:07:56 PM
This is just so sad.  It's heartbreaking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:09:44 PM
Did confirm duct tape had bounded  the bag, ( so fingerprints will be on it), but won't say anything about tape on the body either way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:09:59 PM
OCSD has to  be given credit for the way they have acted today.
The scene was handled well, Cindy and George were effectively shut up and out of their house. Mallory wasn't let back into the house. They are keeping the info to themselves as to what else was in the bag. My kudos to them.



 :salut:  I hope OCSD continue to handle like they did today.  I hope there are no mistakes, no leaks, nothing gets thrown out as inadmissible.  We know the defense will be doing their best to find any potential loophole or snag.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.  LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
I do not understand what is wrong with this statement......I heard it on NG,    but what is the problem with the syayement ....why ask are they all crazy?

I was asking the highlighted area above.

Tim Miller said a neighbor told him the water just receded about 1 1/2 ---2 weeks ago....

Tim also said on NG he went to the spot the bag was and it looked like if you placed a log on the ground and left it there for 6 months and went back and picked it up --- then thats what it looked like under the bag...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:11:12 PM
TIM IS A BUY GUY TONIGHT!  HE'S ON GRETA NOW, SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING  AS ON NG.  WHAT MORE CAN HE SAY?  HE NEEDS TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY HE HALTED THE SEARCH, GOD LOVE HIM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:12:52 PM
Ok, at some point, I heard maybe 4 kids missing around the area, but Tim just confirmed Caylee was currenlty the only one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:12:54 PM
This is just so sad.  It's heartbreaking.

It really is sad SS.  I agree it's heartbreaking, but I think when the public learns more of the details of what happened, there is going to be a back lash of anger.  It's part of the grieving process. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 10:12:56 PM
They are they are crazy ? Larry King Live ..  the baby was just found in a trash bag ..
would you want to go on CNN and make a public azz of yourself ? Why is this of any interest to the public ?  Don't Geo & Cindy need some time to figure this out and perhaps grieve ? In private ?
Tim Miller's ppl were in that area. A good defense lawyer would say : Wasn't that area cleared ? Why is it there now when it wasn't there when TM's ppl were there ? That's why they had Tim there. Casey has been in jail. They have to determine not only how long the baby was dead, but how long the bag was there. The area is secured , no one can get in ( except Murt LOL ) and they are still processing the scene.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 10:13:09 PM
Welcome Grandma2Maddie!


Thank you! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 11, 2008, 10:14:49 PM
Baden on next after commercial to discuss forensics from bag, then Chicago scandal.  I'll hit the bed then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: AZSunny on December 11, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.

thanks! So was the bag under the log? by the log?  confused


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:16:14 PM
OCSD has to  be given credit for the way they have acted today.
The scene was handled well, Cindy and George were effectively shut up and out of their house. Mallory wasn't let back into the house. They are keeping the info to themselves as to what else was in the bag. My kudos to them.


Yes, I agree and they also handled George and Cindy with great kindness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nicnic on December 11, 2008, 10:16:17 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I just watched that TOO!! It was remains that had been there for 6 months....too creepy.

I even asked my husband when the show was over.." did that guy still have tissue on his bones?"

pitiful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 10:16:47 PM
Will they notify the father soon???  Will we know????   I hope Lee's girlfriend was only feeding the dogs, I would like to think there was one good person among them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 11, 2008, 10:17:52 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho

You are entitled to your opinion Minaa, but I don't think Tim was an "ass" about LP searching.  JMHO  And I do NOT want a pissing match again on here tonight about the pros and cons of Tim Miller and LP.  You asked if it bothered anyone else, and wanted to give you my answer, which is no, I am not bothered by Tim Miller's interviews.  Let's focus tonight on Caylee.



 :smt058 :smt056 MuffyBee!!!

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Dr. Baden says for all intents and purposes there is enough info this is Caylee.

The bag is a treasure trove of forensic evidence.  The duct tape is the criminalysts best friend.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho

You are entitled to your opinion Minaa, but I don't think Tim was an "ass" about LP searching.  JMHO  And I do NOT want a pissing match again on here tonight about the pros and cons of Tim Miller and LP.  You asked if it bothered anyone else, and wanted to give you my answer, which is no, I am not bothered by Tim Miller's interviews.  Let's focus tonight on Caylee.



 :smt058 :smt056 MuffyBee!!!

PJ (Paula) :flower:
How are you feeling tonight PJ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:19:02 PM
They are they are crazy ? Larry King Live ..  the baby was just found in a trash bag ..
would you want to go on CNN and make a public azz of yourself ? Why is this of any interest to the public ?  Don't Geo & Cindy need some time to figure this out and perhaps grieve ? In private
?
Tim Miller's ppl were in that area. A good defense lawyer would say : Wasn't that area cleared ? Why is it there now when it wasn't there when TM's ppl were there ? That's why they had Tim there. Casey has been in jail. They have to determine not only how long the baby was dead, but how long the bag was there. The area is secured , no one can get in ( except Murt LOL ) and they are still processing the scene.


Kat ~  I don't think you nor I would be going on Larry King Live like the Anthony's if it were our grandchild just found.  However, I think it's just fine George and Cindy go on Larry King or any other talk show, because they are talking.  And when they are talking there is a chance that what they say may just be something that is useful.  What they say can and would be used in a court of law, I would think.  I agree with you Kat.  It just isn't decent of them to do talk shows like this.  But it could be useful, and I'm surprised their attorney would allow it, and I'm wondering if he/she has advised them against it but the Anthony's think they know best.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:20:35 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.

thanks! So was the bag under the log? by the log?  confused
He was using the log as an example of what it looked like under the bag.....

Like you know when you pick up a log or rock and everything underneath it is dead no grass or anything...Thats what the ground looked like under the bag....Like the bag was there a while and that everything under the bag was dead no grass or anything...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:22:20 PM
Hi PJ  :smt006  Thank you for your kindness. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:22:38 PM
If Caylee was given chloroform, her hair would show it. I'm sure with duct tape there would be many hairs. Dr. Baden said about the chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 10:23:19 PM
Thank you for your reports from Greta.  I'm downstairs on puter, no tv.

Flamom ~  I'm glad you managed to get back in the cage
Thank you MuffyBee, it was tough to read the posts from the outside looking in ..  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 11, 2008, 10:23:47 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: AZSunny on December 11, 2008, 10:24:46 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.

thanks! So was the bag under the log? by the log?  confused
He was using the log as an example of what it looked like under the bag.....

Like you know when you pick up a log or rock and everything underneath it is dead no grass or anything...Thats what the ground looked like under the bag....Like the bag was there a while and that everything under the bag was dead no grass or anything...

I got it now, thanks to everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:25:39 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html

Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues in Caylee Anthony Case
Thursday, December 11, 2008

The plastic bag and duct tape reportedly found with the remains of a child's body in Orlando, Fla., could help tie the unidentified skeleton to missing toddler Caylee Anthony, a forensic pathologist tells FOXNews.com.

The remains, found Thursday by a utility worker less than half a mile from Caylee's home, have yet to be identified, but investigators will be searching the scene for "a treasure trove of forensic evidence," FOX News contributor Michael Baden said.

Click here for photos.

Pathologists should be able to identify the body quickly from dental records, Baden said, and the plastic and duct tape could provide additional vital clues, including fingerprints. They could also provide clues to how the child died, and to who dumped the body.

"The beauty of duct tape — no matter rain, snow, sleet — that fingerprint will stay there," Baden said, adding that if someone used their teeth to rip it, it could yield DNA evidence too.

"Right now, they would be looking at all the contents of the plastic bag and they would be looking at the plastic bag itself," Baden said. "The fingerprints on the outside often get dissolved away by weather, but the inside of the plastic bag, the fingerprints would be there."

Two-year-old Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 16. Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, has been charged with first-degree murder of her daughter, child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about her disappearance.

Evidence found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire showed a decomposing body had been kept there. Strands of Caylee's hair were found, as were traces of chloroform.

"One important thing that I’ve hoped they’ve done already is take an air sample from the bag because they found chloroform in the vehicle and the cause of death still has to be determined," Baden said.

Finding chloroform could poke holes in the prosecution's first-degree murder case, if this is Caylee's body, he said.

"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.

If dental records cannot be used to identify the body, DNA evidence will be used to identify the skeletal remains. The remains will also be examined for signs of trauma.

"If there are fractures to the skeleton, then that goes again to first degree -- intentional suffering on the part of the baby," Baden said. "They can tell the baby suffered."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:25:52 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related

Also I remember Cindy said she tucked the both of them in bed, on June 15.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 10:26:32 PM
I would take Dr Baden's analysis over Dr Wecht's any day.   ::MonkeyRoll::
I hope Dr B is getting his breathing checked out, he has been short of breath for awhile now... notice how winded he gets when talking..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CarolynV on December 11, 2008, 10:27:08 PM
I think they should play that video of Caylee singing for the jury during the closing argument. Tell them what day she was singing to Grandpa and tell them what day she disappeared and when and how she was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: flossy on December 11, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


She died on the night of the 15th/early morning of the 16th - I'd put a good amount of money on it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
OK you want real creepy? I'm watching CSI and they started by showing a black garbage bag, tied, thrown into shallow water with the body of a man inside and then a time lapse of what happens to the body over time in the rainy weather conditions! And you thought you can't write this stuff!! What are the chances of this!!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

  mio say's.>>>-->>>  omg, I am watching this csi too, and I could not believe that opening scene, a  dead man  put in a plastic bag, then dropped into a shallow stream, half covered with water, rained on, then they showed what was going on inside the bag,,,,,,,,,talk about freaky, and dang, so sad as well, .

Did either of you learn from the show, that might help in this case?  DH was watching CSI when I got home, all I saw was it was the one where Kevin Federline was in, so wasn't interested.   Was that the same show and I missed it???/

mio say's,,,,,well, the body inside the bag went through changes, and when they found the bag,  the body inside still had fluids as well as hairs. the bag had been tied with one of those plastic ties,,,body was not taped.....they put the skeletin back together and determined the man died by being strangled...
so, I think, Caylee will still sing to us, even though her mouth has been taped shut....There are many of us here, that will gladly listen. I think she knows.

(btw, this is a new csi, a 2 parter)  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
I think they should play that video of Caylee singing for the jury during the closing argument. Tell them what day she was singing to Grandpa and tell them what day she disappeared and when and how she was found.
I bet the state will show that video.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:28:33 PM
Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:29:49 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


She died on the night of the 15th/early morning of the 16th - I'd put a good amount of money on it.
Yes, I would as well. Which means George lied. Intentionally or not, he lied. Damnit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 11, 2008, 10:30:14 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


She died on the night of the 15th/early morning of the 16th - I'd put a good amount of money on it.

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: flossy on December 11, 2008, 10:30:50 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


She died on the night of the 15th/early morning of the 16th - I'd put a good amount of money on it.
Yes, I would as well. Which means George lied. Intentionally or not, he lied. Damnit

Yep.  Through his teeth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related

Also I remember Cindy said she tucked the both of them in bed, on June 15.

For some reason I'm thinking the 15th Cindy is talking about here is July 15th not June.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:31:35 PM
Hi JustMeT, it's good to see you.  And yes, it would appear George has some splainin' to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 11, 2008, 10:31:54 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related

Also I remember Cindy said she tucked the both of them in bed, on June 15.

For some reason I'm thinking the 15th Cindy is talking about here is July 15th not June.

Oh, that is very possible. That would explain it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 10:32:17 PM
No one but LE and utility man saw the bag or anything. TM saw where the bag was. I guess he was questioned and his logs looked at to determine the answer to the question :
Was this area searched, and if so, why didn't we find it then. Answer, it was under water and the water just receeded about a week and 1/2 ago. Grass under bag, dead and brown with an indentation. Grass all around weedy and green.
LKL tomorrow ! Are they all crazy. ?
 

Where did you get this info? 
TIM was on NG. The water receeding info was from a neighbour to the property and it was relayed to TIM. He said the dent in the ground looked like a log had been laying there, then you picked the log up. Wasn't placed there just recently.

thanks! So was the bag under the log? by the log?  confused
No the bag was not under anything....Tim was using the log laying in the grass as a example of what the indention the in the grass looked like......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 10:32:43 PM
I think they should play that video of Caylee singing for the jury during the closing argument. Tell them what day she was singing to Grandpa and tell them what day she disappeared and when and how she was found.
Carolyn, I have seen that tape of Caylee singing You are my sunshine at least 5 times so far today and it just makes me stop, and it takes my breath away with its innocence and beauty.. so sad, what a lovely baby


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 10:33:01 PM
Grandma Welcome!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am not a transcriptionist, but here is the best I could do:

In Puerto Rico on a business trip, he spoke to Lead Investigator, FBI and Tim Miller.
Resigned from case for personal differences. Couldn't support the fact that Casey wasn't involved.
This starts to give closure, and lets the prosecution which needs to take place to take place.
Once this is finalized, it let's LE and investigators and prosecutors do the job they need to do.
Sgt Allen, told him that he had called Cindy, that she was gracious and appreciative, and let them know prior to boarding flight so they didn't find out from media. He thought that was fabulous thing of Allen to do despite the criticism.
He thought it was compassionate and the right thing to do. He respects and admires him greatly.
As for denial, he thinks his resignation spoke to that. He thinks people have the right to believe what they believe, or need to believe, but he couldn't in any way shape or form support or endorse anything that had a positive thing to do with Casey.   
He says that Casey holds the answers, alone.
He did his best to prepare the Anthony's for this day.
Sad day, but necessary day so that healing process can start.
Now case where deceased child, and a defendent, and the prosecution knows who.
Advice to the Anthony's: stay spiritually focused
If in fact, when in fact, these remains are deemed to be Caylees, they need to find spiritual center and spiritual comfort that they can get because they have been battling very hard to deny this is what has occurred. Time to let go, time to let God.
Advice to Baez? He has to do what he has to do. Certain Karmic aspect? Defense all over the place saying child is still with us, media blitz just yesterday on an alive Caylee, some irony, now meter reader finds child. He thinks counsel their client as to what is really going on. Hopefully we can have real closure.
About sightings: If he believed Caylee was still with us, he might still be the attorney of record, but he had to do what he had to do, and he feels Casey has something to do with Caylee's passing.
What would you tell your client if you were Baez? Tell the truth, stop the lies, I can only help if you tell the truth. At the end of day, I am going home. I would be beating my client up from morning to night to be 100% truthful. Already credibility issues, and now how to overcome them is almost an overwhelming task.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:33:02 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465784,00.html

From Duct Tape Evidence to Potential Insanity Plea, Anthony Trial Could Be One to Watch
Thursday, December 11, 2008


By Joshua Rhett Miller

The discovery of skeletal remains near the home of missing Orlando girl Caylee Anthony's family could be particularly damning evidence in the accused mother's trial, but the mother also has a number of defense options, attorneys told FOXNews.com.

If the duct tape-bound remains are proven to be those of Caylee — who has been missing since June -- the method used to dispose of the body will become a significant factor in the first-degree murder trial of the girl's mother, Casey Anthony, attorney Scott H. Cupp said.

"That obviously shows a level of deliberation," Cupp said. "One would think something like that would be done prior to the actual event. But you could make a strong argument as a prosecutor that the child's mouth was bound to keep her from making noises."

Cupp, a former prosecutor for the Palm Beach County (Fla.) District Attorney's Office, said photographs of the duct-taped body likely will elicit strong reactions from the jury.

"You could go to town with that, a child with her mouth taped shut," he said. "That kind of stuff you can bring people to tears with."

Cupp said the next crucial pieces of information for both prosecutors and Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, will come from the Orange County medical examiner's office.

"At the outset, a lot of what's next for both sides will be determined by what the medical examiner finds, and the prosecution is going to be a little bit ahead of the game because they work hand in glove with the medical examiner," Cupp continued.

Attorney Barry Agulnick of New York said prosecutors likely will appeal to the "sympathies and emotions" of the jurors in subtle ways, including introducing morgue photographs, detailed forensic reports and describing the viciousness of the alleged killing.

"All these things can be elaborated upon," Agulnick told FOXNews.com.

Casey Anthony, 22, has been charged with murder, as well as child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and lying to investigators about Caylee's disappearance. Anthony insists she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but didn't report her missing until July.

A utility worker found the remains of a small child early Thursday in a wooded area less than a half-mile from the house Caylee lived in with her grandparents and mother.

Agulnick said Baez's potential strategies for defending Anthony could include an insanity plea.

"In any case where someone is charged with killing a child, the first thing you explore is some type of psychiatric defense," he said. "No one in their right mind would do something like this, so I'd hire my own experts to examine and explore her mental history and behavior to see if I can mount some type of psychiatric defense. No criminal would commit such a crime in such a fashion unless there was a psychiatric component."

New York-based defense attorney Sanford Rubenstein said he would focus his efforts on analyzing the prosecution's evidence.

"You attack the evidence," Rubenstein told FOXNews.com. "You attack the DNA experts and you scrutinize the manner in which the bones were identified – that would be the avenue of defense in my mind."

Since the burden of proof is on the prosecution, Rubenstein said Baez should focus on putting doubt in the minds of the jurors.

Cupp, meanwhile, said Anthony's attorney could turn his attention elsewhere.

"The defense is going to want to look at other possible suspects," he said. "They have to turn the attention away from their client."

Regardless of how Anthony's first-degree murder defense unfolds, Agulnick said finding jurors for the high-profile case will be difficult.

"You have to be concerned about getting a jury that can be impartial," he told FOXNews.com. "And when the media has fanned the flames, so to speak, you're going to have a tough time finding jurors who aren't in some way knowledgeable of the case. The emotions may just run over in a case like this."

Earlier Thursday, Ninth Circuit Judge Stan Strickland complied with a request by defense lawyer Jose Baez to put off the start date of her trial from Jan. 5 until March. He set another hearing for Jan. 15.

Baez also already asked for a change of venue in the case. He is also seeking a court order for surveillance video from a local mall taken the day of a reported sighting of Caylee.

Anthony faces life in prison if convicted. Prosecutors said last week they do not intend to seek the death penalty in the case.



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: flossy on December 11, 2008, 10:33:59 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related

Also I remember Cindy said she tucked the both of them in bed, on June 15.

For some reason I'm thinking the 15th Cindy is talking about here is July 15th not June.

I think she was talking about June 15th and was lying through her teeth.

Oh, that is very possible. That would explain it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 11, 2008, 10:34:35 PM
oops, sorry bout that -

I was the one who thinks she was speaking of June 15th and was lying through her teeth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:34:37 PM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related


She died on the night of the 15th/early morning of the 16th - I'd put a good amount of money on it.
Yes, I would as well. Which means George lied. Intentionally or not, he lied. Damnit

Yep.  Through his teeth.
Day one I knew, like you did, Cindy was holding something back. Not George though, I am so disappointed in him. Maybe this is the reason Lee hasnt been seen.. Maybe..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:35:11 PM
Grandma Welcome!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am not a transcriptionist, but here is the best I could do:

In Puerto Rico on a business trip, he spoke to Lead Investigator, FBI and Tim Miller.
Resigned from case for personal differences. Couldn't support the fact that Casey wasn't involved.
This starts to give closure, and lets the prosecution which needs to take place to take place.
Once this is finalized, it let's LE and investigators and prosecutors do the job they need to do.
Sgt Allen, told him that he had called Cindy, that she was gracious and appreciative, and let them know prior to boarding flight so they didn't find out from media. He thought that was fabulous thing of Allen to do despite the criticism.
He thought it was compassionate and the right thing to do. He respects and admires him greatly.
As for denial, he thinks his resignation spoke to that. He thinks people have the right to believe what they believe, or need to believe, but he couldn't in any way shape or form support or endorse anything that had a positive thing to do with Casey.   
He says that Casey holds the answers, alone.
He did his best to prepare the Anthony's for this day.
Sad day, but necessary day so that healing process can start.
Now case where deceased child, and a defendent, and the prosecution knows who.
Advice to the Anthony's: stay spiritually focused
If in fact, when in fact, these remains are deemed to be Caylees, they need to find spiritual center and spiritual comfort that they can get because they have been battling very hard to deny this is what has occurred. Time to let go, time to let God.
Advice to Baez? He has to do what he has to do. Certain Karmic aspect? Defense all over the place saying child is still with us, media blitz just yesterday on an alive Caylee, some irony, now meter reader finds child. He thinks counsel their client as to what is really going on. Hopefully we can have real closure.
About sightings: If he believed Caylee was still with us, he might still be the attorney of record, but he had to do what he had to do, and he feels Casey has something to do with Caylee's passing.
What would you tell your client if you were Baez? Tell the truth, stop the lies, I can only help if you tell the truth. At the end of day, I am going home. I would be beating my client up from morning to night to be 100% truthful. Already credibility issues, and now how to overcome them is almost an overwhelming task.


Thanks Orchidwmn!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:35:24 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:36:27 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...

Thanks misitx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: flossy on December 11, 2008, 10:36:28 PM
Day one I knew, like you did, Cindy was holding something back. Not George though, I am so disappointed in him. Maybe this is the reason Lee hasnt been seen.. Maybe..

I do think that George has had the hardest time keeping this whole act going, though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:37:05 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...
Oh good.   I wonder what they found....I wonder what they took....I wonder if anything at that house is useful to them......I wonder if the Anthony's are gonna be charged with something also...I wander ....well   I wonder everything...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:38:18 PM
Hi JustMeT, it's good to see you.  And yes, it would appear George has some splainin' to do.
Muffy, its good to see you as well.

As you know I allllways like to give the benefit of the doubt, just dont tell my children!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 10:38:19 PM
lp is going ot be on greta inna few, as well as new tape of casey in jail...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:40:15 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...

That's a long time to be in the house, don't you think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 10:40:51 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...
Oh good.   I wonder what they found....I wonder what they took....I wonder if anything at that house is useful to them......I wonder if the Anthony's are gonna be charged with something also...I wander ....well   I wonder everything...


breathe hh breathe   and, I am wondering right along with ya


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:41:55 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...

That's a long time to be in the house, don't you think?
A very long time, I wonder if we will see the search warrant soon, to get some idea of what they might be looking for?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:42:28 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...

That's a long time to be in the house, don't you think?
No no and no.. Did I say no? Lol ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:42:28 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.
It looks like they are wrapped in something, possibly a tarp however it also looks like there is more there then I imagined...Although that tarp could possibly just be making it appear that way..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 11, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
If Caylee was given chloroform, her hair would show it. I'm sure with duct tape there would be many hairs. Dr. Baden said about the chloroform.
Forgive me, 'cause this is a really sickening thought, but wouldn't all of her hair be in the garbage bag or even attached to the scull if the remains are that of Caylee?
This was horrible to type, I'm sorry



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.
Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 10:43:54 PM
lp is going ot be on greta inna few, as well as new tape of casey in jail...

What Channell....please!!!!!! :bounce:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:44:15 PM
Day one I knew, like you did, Cindy was holding something back. Not George though, I am so disappointed in him. Maybe this is the reason Lee hasnt been seen.. Maybe..

I do think that George has had the hardest time keeping this whole act going, though.
Absolutely!! I mean..... Yes.


 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Game over George.

So sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:45:15 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.
It looks like they are wrapped in something, possibly a tarp however it also looks like there is more there then I imagined...Although that tarp could possibly just be making it appear that way..
It looks really huge to me what they are carrying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 10:45:18 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 11, 2008, 10:45:20 PM
God Bless Caylee

Lord God, you gave us Caylee for so short a time. Her life had so much promise. Her future was before Her. Her life has passed too quickly. We entrust Caylee into your hands, trusting that you even now embrace her in your love. Welcome her into heaven together with all children who have died. May we know your saving peace. Amen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:45:53 PM
MyfoxOrlando just reported that LE will wrap up at the Anthony house within the next 2 hours...

That's a long time to be in the house, don't you think?
No no and no.. Did I say no? Lol ::MonkeyLaugh::

I dont think they are looking for just one item..I mean if it was a paver found with CAYLEE to weigh down the bag they wouldnt need to look very had for one at the A's house....I wonder what in all they are looking for...Pictures were being taken of the shed, garage and in that front bedroom....Hmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:47:26 PM
Baez: People have been wrong before
Last Edited: Thursday, 11 Dec 2008, 9:07 PM EST
Created: Thursday, 11 Dec 2008, 9:07 PM EST
OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The defense attorney for Casey Anthony said Thursday night that ‘people have been wrong before’.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8055897&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Earlier Thursday the remains of a small child were found near the Anthony home in East Orange County. Investigators spent the day pouring over the area and the remains were sent to the FBI lab in Quantico Virginia for analysis.

Late Tuesday night attorney Jose Baez appeared outside his office in Kissimmee.
I understand the circumstances as they are would lead most people to believe that these are Caylee’s remains. But I must stress it’s not,” Baez said “People have been wrong before.”

“So unfortunately we can’t make any comments and I think it would be inappropriate for me to make any comments until the medical examiners office makes their determination.” Baez added. “Once that determination is made…this obviously takes the case in a different direction but I have done and am doing everything I can as Casey’s representative and attorney to put us in the position to defend her.”

Baez fended off questions concerning any interaction he had with his client during the day Thursday at the Orange County Jail when the remains were found. According to reports Casey was given a sedative and said she was having an anxiety attack.

“From day one,” said Baez in closing, “We have been preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:47:29 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 11, 2008, 10:47:49 PM
I think they should play that video of Caylee singing for the jury during the closing argument. Tell them what day she was singing to Grandpa and tell them what day she disappeared and when and how she was found.
Carolyn, I have seen that tape of Caylee singing You are my sunshine at least 5 times so far today and it just makes me stop, and it takes my breath away with its innocence and beauty.. so sad, what a lovely baby
Oh, me too.  She was such a beautiful child. And then at the end when she says, "Are you tired Papa?"   That breaks my heart.  She was precious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 10:47:53 PM
Grandma Welcome!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am not a transcriptionist, but here is the best I could do:

In Puerto Rico on a business trip, he spoke to Lead Investigator, FBI and Tim Miller.
Resigned from case for personal differences. Couldn't support the fact that Casey wasn't involved.
This starts to give closure, and lets the prosecution which needs to take place to take place.
Once this is finalized, it let's LE and investigators and prosecutors do the job they need to do.
Sgt Allen, told him that he had called Cindy, that she was gracious and appreciative, and let them know prior to boarding flight so they didn't find out from media. He thought that was fabulous thing of Allen to do despite the criticism.
He thought it was compassionate and the right thing to do. He respects and admires him greatly.
As for denial, he thinks his resignation spoke to that. He thinks people have the right to believe what they believe, or need to believe, but he couldn't in any way shape or form support or endorse anything that had a positive thing to do with Casey.   
He says that Casey holds the answers, alone.
He did his best to prepare the Anthony's for this day.
Sad day, but necessary day so that healing process can start.
Now case where deceased child, and a defendent, and the prosecution knows who.
Advice to the Anthony's: stay spiritually focused
If in fact, when in fact, these remains are deemed to be Caylees, they need to find spiritual center and spiritual comfort that they can get because they have been battling very hard to deny this is what has occurred. Time to let go, time to let God.
Advice to Baez? He has to do what he has to do. Certain Karmic aspect? Defense all over the place saying child is still with us, media blitz just yesterday on an alive Caylee, some irony, now meter reader finds child. He thinks counsel their client as to what is really going on. Hopefully we can have real closure.
About sightings: If he believed Caylee was still with us, he might still be the attorney of record, but he had to do what he had to do, and he feels Casey has something to do with Caylee's passing.
What would you tell your client if you were Baez? Tell the truth, stop the lies, I can only help if you tell the truth. At the end of day, I am going home. I would be beating my client up from morning to night to be 100% truthful. Already credibility issues, and now how to overcome them is almost an overwhelming task.


Thanks Orchidwmn!
THANK YOU Orchid!!!!  Wow your wonderful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:49:28 PM
Baez: People have been wrong before
Last Edited: Thursday, 11 Dec 2008, 9:07 PM EST
Created: Thursday, 11 Dec 2008, 9:07 PM EST
OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The defense attorney for Casey Anthony said Thursday night that ‘people have been wrong before’.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8055897&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Earlier Thursday the remains of a small child were found near the Anthony home in East Orange County. Investigators spent the day pouring over the area and the remains were sent to the FBI lab in Quantico Virginia for analysis.

Late Tuesday night attorney Jose Baez appeared outside his office in Kissimmee.
I understand the circumstances as they are would lead most people to believe that these are Caylee’s remains. But I must stress it’s not,” Baez said “People have been wrong before.”

“So unfortunately we can’t make any comments and I think it would be inappropriate for me to make any comments until the medical examiners office makes their determination.” Baez added. “Once that determination is made…this obviously takes the case in a different direction but I have done and am doing everything I can as Casey’s representative and attorney to put us in the position to defend her.”

Baez fended off questions concerning any interaction he had with his client during the day Thursday at the Orange County Jail when the remains were found. According to reports Casey was given a sedative and said she was having an anxiety attack.

“From day one,” said Baez in closing, “We have been preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.”

Well, I guess as a defense attorney what else would he say. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 10:49:56 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 11, 2008, 10:50:15 PM
God Bless Caylee

Lord God, you gave us Caylee for so short a time. Her life had so much promise. Her future was before Her. Her life has passed too quickly. We entrust Caylee into your hands, trusting that you even now embrace her in your love. Welcome her into heaven together with all children who have died. May we know your saving peace. Amen.

Amen.   Thank you Jerseygirl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:50:23 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.
If a panic attack is anything like anxiety, I know it must suck galore. I wish that upon nobody. Except Casey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:50:33 PM
no rose ~  I'm wondering if what was being removed was more than her remains.  With the threat of bad weather, I wonder if they took a section of the ground or something or there were more things discovered along with the bag.   I don't know, but I did read LE was concerned about the weather.  That might affect the crime scene, especially if things have been moved around.  Just guessing...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 10:50:41 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....

Baez confirmed she had anxiety attack and asked for sedative.  I figure Xanax, something she was used to!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 10:52:10 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


Gee    Mio....thank you for telling me that......but it would have been a lot easier just to tell me the chanell it was on.....lol ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 10:53:31 PM
I think they should play that video of Caylee singing for the jury during the closing argument. Tell them what day she was singing to Grandpa and tell them what day she disappeared and when and how she was found.
Carolyn, I have seen that tape of Caylee singing You are my sunshine at least 5 times so far today and it just makes me stop, and it takes my breath away with its innocence and beauty.. so sad, what a lovely baby
Oh, me too.  She was such a beautiful child. And then at the end when she says, "Are you tired Papa?"   That breaks my heart.  She was precious.
My heart breaks whenever I hear her sing.  I think they should make the mother listen to this over and over again.  My 2 1/2 yr old granddaughter sings Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and it is so precious.  Sorry, I'm so cranky after reading all of this information today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:54:03 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 11, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
Good night monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....

Baez confirmed she had anxiety attack and asked for sedative.  I figure Xanax, something she was used to!
I bet she fing did!! Figures


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 10:54:18 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 10:55:02 PM
Night Boomonkey and all the other monkeys off to bed...

I just dont think I can sleep tonight....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:55:05 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.
It looks like they are wrapped in something, possibly a tarp however it also looks like there is more there then I imagined...Although that tarp could possibly just be making it appear that way..
It looks really huge to me what they are carrying.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/1_65_121108_body.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 10:55:06 PM
Good night monkeys

Nite Boo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
Goodnight BooMonkey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:56:05 PM
no rose ~  I'm wondering if what was being removed was more than her remains.  With the threat of bad weather, I wonder if they took a section of the ground or something or there were more things discovered along with the bag.   I don't know, but I did read LE was concerned about the weather.  That might affect the crime scene, especially if things have been moved around.  Just guessing...
That must be it just looked so big to me, they must have removed other items of interest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 10:56:18 PM
If Caylee was given chloroform, her hair would show it. I'm sure with duct tape there would be many hairs. Dr. Baden said about the chloroform.
Forgive me, 'cause this is a really sickening thought, but wouldn't all of her hair be in the garbage bag or even attached to the scull if the remains are that of Caylee?
This was horrible to type, I'm sorry



I asked a similarly yucky question earlier, and was told the hair should probably still be there. Not attached to the skull, unless some of the soft tissue remained, but should still be there even if tissue is not, and that it could be tested for death band, and chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:56:26 PM
These are Caylee's remains being moved by LE.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html


Dec. 11, 2008: Investigators remove evidence in an area where the skeletal remains of a child were found in Orlando, Fla.
It looks like they are wrapped in something, possibly a tarp however it also looks like there is more there then I imagined...Although that tarp could possibly just be making it appear that way..




It does look like there is more there than just a child's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 10:56:43 PM
Good night monkeys

Good Night Boo.................luv ya!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 10:57:04 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.

p.s. umm, Leonard....isn't Nejame in Puerto Rico?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 10:57:25 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

 

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.

Somehow I missed that part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 11, 2008, 10:57:31 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::
I thought it was rude. It's not really any of Greta's business.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 10:58:00 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.
It really shouldn't be any of her business what he wants to do, geez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 10:58:38 PM
no rose ~  I'm wondering if what was being removed was more than her remains.  With the threat of bad weather, I wonder if they took a section of the ground or something or there were more things discovered along with the bag.   I don't know, but I did read LE was concerned about the weather.  That might affect the crime scene, especially if things have been moved around.  Just guessing...
That must be it just looked so big to me, they must have removed other items of interest.

Looking at it again, I wonder if perhaps they have the remains wrapped with cold packs and/or padding so things don't move around-like a type of bubble wrap or something. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 10:59:33 PM
The news reports said that the bag was black.  That has to be some kind of a white tarp or a special body bag.  We have waited five months to see this photograph and it's so sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 11, 2008, 10:59:40 PM
If Caylee was given chloroform, her hair would show it. I'm sure with duct tape there would be many hairs. Dr. Baden said about the chloroform.
Forgive me, 'cause this is a really sickening thought, but wouldn't all of her hair be in the garbage bag or even attached to the scull if the remains are that of Caylee?
This was horrible to type, I'm sorry



I asked a similarly yucky question earlier, and was told the hair should probably still be there. Not attached to the skull, unless some of the soft tissue remained, but should still be there even if tissue is not, and that it could be tested for death band, and chloroform.
That's what I thought. Just wasn't 100% sure. Thank you for your answer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:00:02 PM
I know that sometimes when the area that remain are laying on cant be preserved or might be in danger of getting messed up , they will cut around the entire object they are wanting to examine and then remmove the soil, leaves, everything right along with the remains.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 11:00:02 PM
Looks like they took more than just that as well:

(http://i37.tinypic.com/2eplvmw.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 11, 2008, 11:00:05 PM
no rose ~  I'm wondering if what was being removed was more than her remains.  With the threat of bad weather, I wonder if they took a section of the ground or something or there were more things discovered along with the bag.   I don't know, but I did read LE was concerned about the weather.  That might affect the crime scene, especially if things have been moved around.  Just guessing...
That must be it just looked so big to me, they must have removed other items of interest.

Looking at it again, I wonder if perhaps they have the remains wrapped with cold packs and/or padding so things don't move around-like a type of bubble wrap or something. 
It sure looks very awkward, and difficult to carry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 11, 2008, 11:02:54 PM
If Caylee was given chloroform, her hair would show it. I'm sure with duct tape there would be many hairs. Dr. Baden said about the chloroform.
Forgive me, 'cause this is a really sickening thought, but wouldn't all of her hair be in the garbage bag or even attached to the scull if the remains are that of Caylee?
This was horrible to type, I'm sorry



I asked a similarly yucky question earlier, and was told the hair should probably still be there. Not attached to the skull, unless some of the soft tissue remained, but should still be there even if tissue is not, and that it could be tested for death band, and chloroform.
That's what I thought. Just wasn't 100% sure. Thank you for your answer.
Casey wasnt smart enough to not bag the body. Good for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:03:05 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.
It really shouldn't be any of her business what he wants to do, geez.
Leonard should have told her .Gee you can come eat to if  its gonna upset you so much......that would have shut her up maybe! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 11:03:14 PM
lp is going ot be on greta inna few, as well as new tape of casey in jail...

What Channell....please!!!!!! :bounce:

oops, just reading this post , sorry, greta is off now....she did not seem to care for lp, then they showed greta in anthonys back yard. cin showed greta the sandbox, playhouse, and corner of house where dogs hit...
I noticed that under that play house, there are white patio stones....when there are red brick pavers leading to that house....

I wonder if george could have moved the red pavers under house....remember, we found red pavers, although they were not near where remains were found....just me wondering. mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
Ugh so many different stories Myfoxorlando---

Utility worker poked finger in ground and found a skull???

And they are hearing LE is looking for articles of clothing...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:05:31 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=4240.620;num_replies=626

Child remains found near missing Fla. girl‘s home
Staff and agencies
11 December, 2008



Child remains found near missing Fla. girl‘s home - Yahoo! News document.body.className = ‘js-enabled‘; Skip to navigation » Skip to content » U.S. U.S. Video Child remains found near missing Fla. girl‘s home Buzz Up IM del.icio.us Yahoo! Bookmarks By MARK WANGRIN, Associated Press Writer Mark Wangrin, Associated Press Writer – 11 mins ago AP – Orange County Sheriff Dept. Detective Sgt. John Allen points Crime Scene technicians toward the area … Slideshow: Mother accused of killing missing Fla. girl Pl Video: Child's body found near missing Fla. girl's home

Caylee Anthony, 3, has been reported missing since July. On Thursday, less than a half-mile from where the girl lived, a utility worker stumbled upon remains of a small child.

"Now the investigation continues," Beary said. "There is a lot of lab work to do. There is a lot of DNA work to do. There is a lot of crime scene work to do."

For the past several months, Anthony‘s family, police and volunteers from around the country have searched for the little girl.

EquuSearch volunteer Deborah Smith said she believes the remains belong to Caylee.

Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County jail, said Casey Anthony was told about the discovery. She was placed under psychological observation, not suicide watch, and remains under protective custody. Her attorney, Jose Baez, was at the jail for about 90 minutes Thursday.

Medical examiners would probably look at photos of the child along with the skull, hoping to make a bone structure comparison, said Dr. Lee Jantz, coordinator of the forensic anthropology center at the University of Tennessee.

By early Thursday afternoon, dozens of reporters, police and onlookers had gathered in the pouring rain near where the remains were found. One man walked up and placed a flower-covered cross at the scene. Another man openly sobbed. An elementary school at the end of the street released students out through a back pedestrian exit, steering them away from the frantic scene.

The child‘s grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn‘t seen Caylee for a month and her daughter‘s car smelled like death.

Other troubling details emerged as the case picked up national media attention: Photos surfaced of Anthony partying after her daughter went missing. Friends said she was a habitual liar, but also a good mother.

Last month, the Orange County State Attorney turned over almost 800 pages of documents showing someone used the Anthonys‘ home computer to do Internet searches for terms like "neck breaking" and "household weapons."

In mid-March, someone searched Google and Wikipedia for peroxide, shovels, acetone, alcohol and chloroform. Traces of chloroform, which is used to induce unconsciousness and a component of human decomposition, were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony‘s car during forensic testing, the documents say.

Last week, prosecutors announced they would not pursue the death penalty for Anthony. Earlier Thursday, before the remains were discovered, a judge had delayed her trial from January to March.

A spokeswoman with the state attorney‘s office said it would reserve comment until the investigation was complete. Messages left with Caylee Anthony‘s grandparents and with Casey Anthony‘s lawyer were not immediately returned


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 11, 2008, 11:06:04 PM
I was under the impression Greta wasn't up on the WHOLE involvement of LP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 11:06:37 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 11:06:51 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.
It really shouldn't be any of her business what he wants to do, geez.

I don't have TV so I didn't see this but man that bugs me...LP has been connected to this case from the very beginning..for whatever reason...the one person who hasn't is Greta...If I was LP I would have asked her...what she was doing there..political scene too quiet right now ?
Just about everything LP has done in Or-lawn-doe...has been on his dime.. grrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 11:09:10 PM
I was under the impression Greta wasn't up on the WHOLE involvement of LP.

Yeah, she was very condescending while talking to him.  I do wonder what his intentions are, though.  He has kept himself so involved in this case and now that the case has broken wide open, he's not there.  I think he wants to come back to be where the action is.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:09:20 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD950OT8G0

Orange County Sheriff Dept. Detective Sgt. John Allen points Crime Scene technicians toward the area where skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday, Dec. 11. 2008 less than a half-mile from the Orlando, Fla. home of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony. (AP Photo/Orlando Sentinal, Red Huber)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 11:10:45 PM
Video of passenger on plane who is also neighbor:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18254916/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18254916/index.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 11:11:11 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


Gee    Mio....thank you for telling me that......but it would have been a lot easier just to tell me the chanell it was on.....lol ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


mio say's,   well duh me, ha ha, your right, I never look at chanell numbers, I look for who I want to see....I have changed chanells so many times today, my carple tunnel is acting up !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 11:11:44 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     

What a beautiful idea.  You're right, and I bet that will eventually be what we see happening.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 11:12:41 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ISpy on December 11, 2008, 11:13:44 PM
Hello, everyone!  Popping in tonight to check that front page and it's bittersweet news.  Like everyone else, I'm 99.999999999% sure it's Caylee, but sad just the same.  So glad that she's finally been found (been praying here, as have many others).  Praying now that all the evidence necessary for a conviction will be found (like so many of you).

Went to the grocery store yesterday and happened upon a young lady who looked remarkably like Casey and about the same age too.  She was leisurely browsing the aisle and suddenly I was reminded how Casey had blithely shopped while her 2-yr-old was MISSING (dead, by all indications).  I was so incredibly angry that I actually had to remind myself this girl was a look-alike and walk away.  I didn't even want to be in the same aisle, I was so mad.  This case has made me far more aware of missing people in a much more personal way and for that I am glad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:14:09 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:15:05 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD950MPK00


Fla. child's remains were previously underwater
By MARK WANGRIN – 8 hours ago

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida sheriff says the child's skull found near the Orlando home of a missing 3-year-old girl was "totally underwater" during previous searches for the toddler.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said Thursday investigators could not immediately say whether the remains belong to Caylee Anthony.

Beary says officials searched the surrounding neighborhood several times since she went missing in June. A utility worker found the remains Thursday morning.

Beary says FBI and forensic investigators will work through the weekend to identify the remains in what they consider a top-priority case.

Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, has been charged with first-degree murder in connection with her daughter's death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:15:38 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?

I don't know either.  I would like to know the answer myself.  I didn't want you to think you were being ignored.   Maybe if BleachedBlack or as you suggested, a monkey with medical background could tell us.  Maybe you should ask again in the morning after coffee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 11:16:04 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     


mio say's,,,,,,nicely said......I hope we all sleep a bit more peaceful tonight. I still believe Caylee's death, will bring something good to society as a whole, if nothing more than a shoe of compassion.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 11:17:31 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:19:46 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?

Yes it does I forgot about that thanks for the reminder.. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:19:50 PM
http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=9508654&nav=menu577_2_1

Forensic investigators vital to investigations

Updated: Dec 11, 2008 10:00 PM EST

 
SARASOTA - Crime Scene Investigators in Orlando have their work cut out for them at the scene where the child's remains were found.  ABC 7 spoke to investigators with the Sarasota Police Department to find out what goes into processing a scene like that.

Forensic investigators have been a critical tool when it comes to solving murder cases.  If those remains are found to be little Caylee Anthony, even though she has been missing for six months, forensic investigators say evidence can still be found.

"We were all over this area.  It was probably under water."  Investigators have searched this area before, but Thursday's discovery of remains of what appears to be a small child will have forensic investigators canvassing the area again for clues.  "Specifically they're looking for tire wear impressions, footwear impressions, any physical evidence that they can see visibly.  And they may collect other evidence that may not be readily visible," says Sergeant Chris Born with the Sarasota Police Department.

Inside the Sarasota Police Department's crime lab, bags of evidence line the countertops.  Inside each of those bags can be important elements to help solve cases.  And investigators say they can find forensic evidence no matter how long clues have been left in the elements.  "If there was for example a body placed in a container or bag at the scene, that is just what you are looking at in a tunnel vision aspect.  Lot of times there is a lot more evidence that needs to be collected as well," says Sgt. Born.

Born says forensic investigators will comb through the area where the remains were found, looking through every layer of dirt, photographing and collecting evidence.  "One of our biggest concerns is securing a crime scene properly."

And even if remains have been submerged in water, Born says you can't hide trace evidence.  "Evidence, whether it is visible or not, it doesn't lie."

Sgt. Born says the longer a perpetrator stays on the scene, the more forensic evidence is left behind.  He says the garbage bag that those remains were found in could hold fingerprints, fibers and other clues to what happened and who is involved.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
Hi ISpy  :smt039 

misitx ~  That is an interesting theory about the car scratches

SS- If Caylee's remains have been previously under water, they would most likely not have been found in previous searches, right?  According to the article you've posted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:20:25 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?

No, I don't believe so.  The area is up/down ? the road from their backyard.  jmho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:21:08 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?
yes........they did say something about that earlier today....but I still say that Casey was too lazy to walk...unless she did just lay the body down inside the bushes first...then drive home and get what she needed and then walked back to the area, and move it further into the woods, maybe try to hide it with leaves and stuff, then walk back home.....could be the reason the guy saw her walking or jogging on that day.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
There was a drowning in the paper last summer.  A man watched as two children drowned.  He shouted to them but could not reach them, could not help them.  But he said the look on their faces was one of total peace...he couldn't figure it out. I hope it is that way with all children.  I hope Caylee had no idea.  I thought I would be happy......All I can think is....I am so sorry Caylee....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 11, 2008, 11:22:10 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?

I don't know either.  I would like to know the answer myself.  I didn't want you to think you were being ignored.   Maybe if BleachedBlack or as you suggested, a monkey with medical background could tell us.  Maybe you should ask again in the morning after coffee.
I would not suspect it is all that unusual. The spinal column is connected to the skull through duramatter. I don't think it fused directly to the skull. (..... but then again, I'm no doctor!!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 11:22:23 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     

What a beautiful idea.  You're right, and I bet that will eventually be what we see happening.


If I lived in Orlando, that's what I would do. When there is something like that up here, a tragic accident with a young person or a crime where a young person lost their life, ppl need to do something outside of themselves and just thinking about it. Usually they gravitate to where it happened, but we don't know and hanging around the house on Hopespring seems so
well, crazy and not a healing type of thing. Near my Parents's graves there is a boy's grave who was killed and there are always still ten years later, toys and notes and a big pile of things from ppl ( mostly family by now ) left there. It seems out of place in a cemetary to see toys, but it must have been meaningful to the ppl left behind to go there and leave something there. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:23:44 PM
Hi ISpy  :smt039 

misitx ~  That is an interesting theory about the car scratches

SS- If Caylee's remains have been previously under water, they would most likely not have been found in previous searches, right?  According to the article you've posted.

I am way behind, so this may have been posted by someone earlier.....Tim Miller on Greta said that he pulled the search in this area due to water.  He didn't want to take a chance that a searcher, horse, ATV would damage something submerged. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?

No, I don't believe so.  The area is up/down ? the road from their backyard.  jmho

A neighbor said that the woods back up to the area by the A's backyard so Not sure about the direct access from the backyard to the woods..But it seems like the remains were closer to the road side of the woods...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?

I don't know either.  I would like to know the answer myself.  I didn't want you to think you were being ignored.   Maybe if BleachedBlack or as you suggested, a monkey with medical background could tell us.  Maybe you should ask again in the morning after coffee.

I almost wrote something at the end along those lines but I was trying desperately to have a serious moment  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Why wait till morning.. (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/monkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/monkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:25:54 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

Ah, good thinking because there is a turnout in the vicinity and she could back in easily:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/turnoff.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 11, 2008, 11:26:21 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?
I was the one that said I heard a forensic scientist say that decomposition wouldn't have caused the skull to detach from the body on Jane V. Mitchell on HLN at 6 pm CST.    I then remembered how Casey did a search for neck breaking on her computer.  Then with the duct tape over the mouth it really makes me think this child did suffer and that makes me sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
Hi ISpy  :smt039 

misitx ~  That is an interesting theory about the car scratches

SS- If Caylee's remains have been previously under water, they would most likely not have been found in previous searches, right?  According to the article you've posted.

I am way behind, so this may have been posted by someone earlier.....Tim Miller on Greta said that he pulled the search in this area due to water.  He didn't want to take a chance that a searcher, horse, ATV would damage something submerged. 


Hi 2NJ :smt006  That was mentioned earlier, and Red made a post about Tim's decision.  I know what you mean about being behind.  I got kicked off a few times earlier, and was trying to read forward with the fast moving pages & info and then go back and catch up...It was like running to stay in place for a while.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:27:39 PM
Hi ISpy  :smt039 

misitx ~  That is an interesting theory about the car scratches

SS- If Caylee's remains have been previously under water, they would most likely not have been found in previous searches, right?  According to the article you've posted.


Muffy - I'm thinking that the area might have been dry when Casey first put her there, but then the hurricane came.  The area has probably only recently dried out again.  If the bag was tied with shut with duct tape, something must have happened for a skull to "fall out".  Either the bag must have ripped on something when it was submerged, or an animal might have ripped it open when the water receded.  Carrying Caylee would have been like carrying a bag of mush at the time Casey dumped her.  It couldn't have been easy for Casey to carry those remains.  My guess right now is that she didn't bury her at all, but maybe just covered her with leaves or brush.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:27:47 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:28:02 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?

No, I don't believe so.  The area is up/down ? the road from their backyard.  jmho

A neighbor said that the woods back up to the area by the A's backyard so Not sure about the direct access from the backyard to the woods..But it seems like the remains were closer to the road side of the woods...

I'm going on the maps that were posted earlier today.  I don't have one handy right now, but from my point of view, it wasn't in their back yard vicinity.  I'll try to find the map.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 11, 2008, 11:28:38 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.

p.s. umm, Leonard....isn't Nejame in Puerto Rico?

This had to be about one of the strangest interviews I have ever seen ... "its a situation I promised Casey that I would do anything to find Caylee"

Um, don't most people believe Caylee was found today. So what is the point of going back?

WOW, it does not get any more awkward than that. LP was really unable to come up with any good reason why he is flying across country to Orlando. Maybe he is flying back to do lie detector test, not!

It was a rather legitimate question that she asked asked of Padilla. Why would he need to go back to Orlando? I guess he feels the need to spend some of that $50K that was anonymously donated to him to go back and do the Blanchard Park search? I am assuming LP will be refunding that money?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3290757&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 11:30:01 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?


mio say's,,,,,,nicely said......I hope we all sleep a bit more peaceful tonight. I still believe Caylee's death, will bring something good to society as a whole, if nothing more than a shoe of compassion.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:30:21 PM
Thanks for the map Klaas.  It gives a different perspective. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 11, 2008, 11:30:35 PM
I want to dedicate this to Caylee, a girl who was a delight to her Grandparents while she was on earth. 

Why God Made Little Girls
Author Unknown

God made the world with towering trees,
Majestic mountains and restless seas.
Then paused and said , "It needs one more thing...
Someone to laugh and dance and sing.
To walk in the wood and gather flowers...
To commune with nature in quiet hours."

So God made little girls
With laughing eyes and bouncing curls,
With joyful hearts and infectious smiles,
Enchanting ways and feminine wiles.
And when He'd completed the task He'd begun.
He was pleased and proud of the job He'd done.
For the world, when seen through little girl's eyes
Greatly resembled Paradise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 11:30:44 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?


mio say's,,,,,,nicely said......I hope we all sleep a bit more peaceful tonight. I still believe Caylee's death, will bring something good to society as a whole, if nothing more than a shoe of compassion.....
sorry
again...
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:30:52 PM
Hi ISpy  :smt039 

misitx ~  That is an interesting theory about the car scratches

SS- If Caylee's remains have been previously under water, they would most likely not have been found in previous searches, right?  According to the article you've posted.

I am way behind, so this may have been posted by someone earlier.....Tim Miller on Greta said that he pulled the search in this area due to water.  He didn't want to take a chance that a searcher, horse, ATV would damage something submerged. 


Hi 2NJ :smt006  That was mentioned earlier, and Red made a post about Tim's decision.  I know what you mean about being behind.  I got kicked off a few times earlier, and was trying to read forward with the fast moving pages & info and then go back and catch up...It was like running to stay in place for a while.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Yes, that and Life responsibilities sure give you a run for your $.  It's not doing anything for my love handles though...(the running bit)   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 11, 2008, 11:30:56 PM
Remember there were scratches on  outside of Caseys trunk..I wonder if she backed her car in just far enough to hide the trunk and then took Caylee of threw her into the woods..

Could LE and the whole tree cutting thing be to compare if those trees could have made those scratches or maybe traces of auto paint on them or something..

Maybe out there just thinking...

I'm wondering if it's possible that Casey went over the backyard fence somehow and somehow carried the body through the woods.  Doesn't their backyard back up to these very woods?
yes........they did say something about that earlier today....but I still say that Casey was too lazy to walk...unless she did just lay the body down inside the bushes first...then drive home and get what she needed and then walked back to the area, and move it further into the woods, maybe try to hide it with leaves and stuff, then walk back home.....could be the reason the guy saw her walking or jogging on that day.....

I wonder if thier back yard fence has a gated opening to the wooded area. If so, she could have backed her car into the garage and transported accordingly. It might also explain why she borrowed the shovel...although I think whe was too lazy to actually bury her there. Maybe tried and gave up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 11, 2008, 11:31:05 PM
It seems to me that if the area was flooded, Caylee's body might have been moved or jostled around in the water, especially during the storm.  The forensics people will have to figure out if she was dumped in that spot or somewhere else and the body floated or was blown in the water to that area.  I doubt it was very far from there that she was dumped because of all the trees and undergrowth, though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: islandmonkey on December 11, 2008, 11:32:11 PM
  ::MonkeyEek:: Question for any monkey who might have any ideas ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: If Caylee were put in the trash bag even within a week of her death, even though all soft tissue had degraded-her hair would still be there, thus making the identification of a "girl" skeleton easier. Does anyone remember the photographer that wore her hair in long braids, well she had been missing for more than 10 yrs when someone hiking in the mountains found her hair compketely intact. They called in necrosearch and found evidence, then tracked down her murderer yrs later. So, just a guess, but I believe even though she was just a skeleton, she should have still had her hair. Any ideas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 11:32:21 PM
Hello, everyone!  Popping in tonight to check that front page and it's bittersweet news.  Like everyone else, I'm 99.999999999% sure it's Caylee, but sad just the same.  So glad that she's finally been found (been praying here, as have many others).  Praying now that all the evidence necessary for a conviction will be found (like so many of you).

Went to the grocery store yesterday and happened upon a young lady who looked remarkably like Casey and about the same age too.  She was leisurely browsing the aisle and suddenly I was reminded how Casey had blithely shopped while her 2-yr-old was MISSING (dead, by all indications).  I was so incredibly angry that I actually had to remind myself this girl was a look-alike and walk away.  I didn't even want to be in the same aisle, I was so mad.  This case has made me far more aware of missing people in a much more personal way and for that I am glad.


mio say's,
Good for you I SPy
Allready, Caylee has left her mark, and more thought will be brought to all the missing.
btw, I too have noticed look alikes,,,I think we all would have continued looking, if Caylee had not been found....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:33:46 PM
Thanks Klaas for the map it does not look like casey could have got to that area without walking through the woods....Looks to me it would have been a lot easier to back in the car dump the bag and take right back off again...IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 11, 2008, 11:33:59 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?
I was the one that said I heard a forensic scientist say that decomposition wouldn't have caused the skull to detach from the body on Jane V. Mitchell on HLN at 6 pm CST.    I then remembered how Casey did a search for neck breaking on her computer.  Then with the duct tape over the mouth it really makes me think this child did suffer and that makes me sad.

Thank You...That was exactly the connection I was trying to make...I don't know medical information at all... This board was moving so fast, I must have missed your response


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
I wonder if the water meter guy will get the reward money????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 11, 2008, 11:34:47 PM
Klaas

You posted the map...Just love you and your speed.....

Red,

Greta made LP look like an AH....that was my impression...had no problem with it, either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:34:48 PM
When I heard about the skull being disconnected, from the body, the first thing I thought about was that search for "break necks" and "shovel"............she could have chopped her neck with the shovel to make sure she was dead. I have always felt there would be a contusion of the skull. I do hope Dr. Bass at the Body Farm inspects all those bones. He has identified the cause of death many times on bones when people thought they had the perfect crime.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:36:09 PM
I wonder if the water meter guy will get the reward money????

I hate to say this, but I am betting the Anthonys will do anything they can to keep him from getting anything in the form of a reward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:36:11 PM
It seems to me that if the area was flooded, Caylee's body might have been moved or jostled around in the water, especially during the storm.  The forensics people will have to figure out if she was dumped in that spot or somewhere else and the body floated or was blown in the water to that area.  I doubt it was very far from there that she was dumped because of all the trees and undergrowth, though.

I see what you mean Hudsunn.  There are probably very smart people out there that can think and work the theories through, aided with computers.  I hope they can make a good solid case with evidence to back it up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:38:05 PM
  ::MonkeyEek:: Question for any monkey who might have any ideas ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: If Caylee were put in the trash bag even within a week of her death, even though all soft tissue had degraded-her hair would still be there, thus making the identification of a "girl" skeleton easier. Does anyone remember the photographer that wore her hair in long braids, well she had been missing for more than 10 yrs when someone hiking in the mountains found her hair compketely intact. They called in necrosearch and found evidence, then tracked down her murderer yrs later. So, just a guess, but I believe even though she was just a skeleton, she should have still had her hair. Any ideas

Unless her hair was removed by removing the scalp, it would still be there. The hair have very valuable information and can be tested for drugs also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandmaof4 on December 11, 2008, 11:39:18 PM
I am praying this is Caylee so whatever is left of  her can be given an appropriate burial. I am also praying that she did not die a violent death (some of this stuff scares me, I just can't begin to imagine doing anything to a little child). Be prepared for more drama from the Anthony's, I will be shocked if they accept it. I watched them on Larry King Live and this is all about drama and getting money. There is not a grandparent in world that cares about their grandchildren that can sit up there and say the things they say. I don't know how a dead body smell becomes a rotten pizza.  By the way, I thought it was just the box, no pizza inside. If they agree she is dead, they will say someone killed her but not Mother of the Year Casey. Very sad and denial continues. Tomorrow may be interesting! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:39:28 PM
Thanks Klaas for the map it does not look like casey could have got to that area without walking through the woods....Looks to me it would have been a lot easier to back in the car dump the bag and take right back off again...IMO
I watched the news guy drive the distance today from the Anthony's house to where the body was found and it took him less than 2 minutes, he was showing everybody just how close the body was, and he was having to drive slower then normal because of all the activity...He also said you could walk to the area in less than 10 minutes.......so its really very close!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 11, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)


Prayers for Caylee. 

Monkeys, you are an amazing bunch .

Wsihing all peace and health this year.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:40:07 PM
Could someone give me the link to the webcams at the Anthony's house?  I have lost my links for some reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:40:18 PM
  ::MonkeyEek:: Question for any monkey who might have any ideas ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: If Caylee were put in the trash bag even within a week of her death, even though all soft tissue had degraded-her hair would still be there, thus making the identification of a "girl" skeleton easier. Does anyone remember the photographer that wore her hair in long braids, well she had been missing for more than 10 yrs when someone hiking in the mountains found her hair compketely intact. They called in necrosearch and found evidence, then tracked down her murderer yrs later. So, just a guess, but I believe even though she was just a skeleton, she should have still had her hair. Any ideas

I agree.  The body was in a bag and the hair would still be in the bag, some probably still attached to the skull.  That's probably why they are so sure it's most likely Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)


Prayers for Caylee. 

Monkeys, you are an amazing bunch .

Wsihing all peace and health this year.



I believe that map is old - there are houses behind the Anthony's house now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
Could someone give me the link to the webcams at the Anthony's house?  I have lost my links for some reason.

I think this is it but it's not working for me right now.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:42:29 PM
Could someone give me the link to the webcams at the Anthony's house?  I have lost my links for some reason.

I think this is it but it's not working for me right now.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:42:39 PM
Turbothink - yes ALL of the online maps are old, some up to 2 years old.  But the wooded area where her body was found is still very much the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 11, 2008, 11:42:40 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I felt soooo uncomfortable watching that.  Greta made Leonard look incredibly stupid.  I was squirming in my seat while she was talking to him.

p.s. umm, Leonard....isn't Nejame in Puerto Rico?

This had to be about one of the strangest interviews I have ever seen ... "its a situation I promised Casey that I would do anything to find Caylee"

Um, don't most people believe Caylee was found today. So what is the point of going back?

WOW, it does not get any more awkward than that. LP was really unable to come up with any good reason why he is flying across country to Orlando. Maybe he is flying back to do lie detector test, not!

It was a rather legitimate question that she asked asked of Padilla. Why would he need to go back to Orlando? I guess he feels the need to spend some of that $50K that was anonymously donated to him to go back and do the Blanchard Park search? I am assuming LP will be refunding that money?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3290757&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html




It was an awkward feeling for all viewing, as lp did squirm a bit, and greta seemingly had no mercy for him. Had he merely said, I wanted to find my own closier, or I wanted to party with najeme, anything but that "deer in the headlight stare" he gave her as she asked him the question,,why are you going there??/     smiles monkeys for the rst of the evening... I am going to bed... I hope the rest of you here, allow yourselves to rest a bit tonight as well...   peace  aho   mio



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 11:43:04 PM
I have been wondering all day about the skull not being attached. Someone a few pages back said something about decomp of the body wouldn't cause the skull to be disconnected. Could the man who found the bag perhaps grab or kick the bag rather hard and the skull perhaps fell off? I know that sounds dumb, but I'm just trying to figure this out.

I asked that question earlier and didn't get a reply that I saw..I was hoping someone with medical background might know if the skull would just disattach all by itself...how is it attached and would the material connecting it to the...spine?...dissolve during decomposition?

I don't know either.  I would like to know the answer myself.  I didn't want you to think you were being ignored.   Maybe if BleachedBlack or as you suggested, a monkey with medical background could tell us.  Maybe you should ask again in the morning after coffee.
The skull is attached to the spinal column and it may have been disconnected from the torso when the bag was moved by the man who found it.. children's heads are usually larger in proportion to their bodies than adults are and maybe even the weight of the dangling head with no muscle or tendon to support it due to tissue degeneration  may have cause the skul to separate fron the spinal column.. i hope that helps..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:43:07 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?


mio say's,,,,,,nicely said......I hope we all sleep a bit more peaceful tonight. I still believe Caylee's death, will bring something good to society as a whole, if nothing more than a shoe of compassion.....
sorry
again...
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?



cecilita is wondering if the crime scene where Caylee was found & Kat_Gram has said could be a place to leave memorials for little Caylee  is the same place the protestors were told to move.  I don't think it's the same place, as the crime scene was brushey and wooded.  Does any monkey know the answer to cecilita's question?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 11:44:26 PM
Good night you all......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 11, 2008, 11:44:40 PM
NoRose asked:
How are you feeling tonight PJ?

Thank you for asking Sweet NRCG.  I'm only feeling such relief over today and Caylee probably being found that I haven't been letting my nerves get to me.  I'm scheduled to be at the hospital at 5:45AM and will be the first surgery.  I'll be coming home in the late afternoon if diabetes is stable.  I'll need to pick everyones brains about the happenings if I'm able.  You are all so good about reporting.  I still have 8 pages to catch up on (I think) but don't really care if I sleep tonight.  I'm so thankful to God that this was today and not tomorrow.

Hugs,
PH(Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:44:41 PM
http://www.cbs12.com/news/anthony_4711600___article.html/remains_caylee.html

Casey Anthony has anxiety attack, takes sedatives in jail after learning about remains found

December 11, 2008 - 11:11 PM
After the remains of what may be missing toddler Caylee Anthony were found Thursday morning, sources said when the Orange County Jail informed jailed mom Casey Anthony, she had an anxiety attack and requested sedatives.

A warrant is being sought to search the Anthony family home.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker that discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources said that duct tape was found on the mouth of the skull. A medical examiner took the remains from the scene on Thursday afternoon.

Todd Black, the spokesman for Jose Baez, who is Casey Anthony's attorney, said Anthony's camp is currently taking a wait-and-see attitude regarding the discovery.

Black said they want to find out what exactly the discovery is sooner rather than later.

Baez went to the Orange County Jail to be with his client. Later Thursday, Baez filed an emergency motion to ensure his involvement in the testing of the newly found remains. A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 11:30.

Investigators have been at the scene all day, which is one third of a mile away from the home where Casey Anthony, 22, was staying with her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, and daughter, Caylee.

According to Equusearch, volunteers tried to search the area, but it was underwater. When they returned, the area was blocked by a chain-link fence.
Tim Miller of Equusearch said he believes the remains are Caylee's and he expects to attend her funeral within a week.

"I feel very optimistic that these are the remains of Caylee. We don't have any other missing children in the Orlando area, especially that close to the Anthony home," Miller said.

The exact age or the gender of the child is unknown, and investigators are not connecting the remains to the Anthony case, but Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said it is definitely a possibility that the remains are Caylee's.

Beary said it is confirmed that a human skull was found. He also said the area where the discovery was made was flooded during earlier searches.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder. Prosecutors said she killed her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July.

The Anthony family has been notified. They were still in California after Wednesday night's "Larry King Live" television appearance, but they rushed back to Orlando.

 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TURBOTHINK on December 11, 2008, 11:46:49 PM
According to LKL web site the Anthonys are going to be back on his show tomorrow night. Do these people have NO shame? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 11, 2008, 11:47:49 PM
Is anyone else afraid that if this is indeed Caylee(which I do think it is) that the Anthonys will not have a burial for her b/c they will still be in denial? This has been my fear all along that they won't believe it is her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 11, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465424,00.html

 The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing Orlando girl Caylee Anthony's family.

There was no immediate word on whether the bones, reportedly discovered wrapped in a plastic bag and bound with duct tape, were those of a boy or a girl.

"All we know is that remains of a child have been found," a police spokeswoman told FOXNews.com.

Orange County sheriffs and forensics teams were working at the scene at the intersection of South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive, on the edge of the Anthonys' neighborhood about 10 miles southeast of downtown Orlando.

Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons said that a utility worker found the body at 9:32 a.m. EST Thursday in a wooded area less than a half-mile from the house Caylee lived in with her grandparents and mother.

The water meter reader reportedly picked up the bag and a small skull rolled out that sources say strongly resembled that of a little girl.

There were reports of duct tape around the mouth area of the child's skull.

Police said the Anthony family has been notified of the discovery and no one is being allowed in their house. Sheriffs were preparing a search warrant for the Anthony home, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.
if caylee was bounded with tapes.....can be that Lee or George knew where was Caylee and they put caylee inthere with those taes on her to pretent that she was kidnaped ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2008, 11:48:31 PM
Nite Mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: islandmonkey on December 11, 2008, 11:49:18 PM
  ::MonkeyEek:: Question for any monkey who might have any ideas ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: If Caylee were put in the trash bag even within a week of her death, even though all soft tissue had degraded-her hair would still be there, thus making the identification of a "girl" skeleton easier. Does anyone remember the photographer that wore her hair in long braids, well she had been missing for more than 10 yrs when someone hiking in the mountains found her hair compketely intact. They called in necrosearch and found evidence, then tracked down her murderer yrs later. So, just a guess, but I believe even though she was just a skeleton, she should have still had her hair. Any ideas

I agree.  The body was in a bag and the hair would still be in the bag, some probably still attached to the skull.  That's probably why they are so sure it's most likely Caylee.


That's exactly what I think too~hadn't seen anyone mention it, but I've been sick as a dog and thought I'd missed it maybe. Also, they can test it for xanax, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 11, 2008, 11:50:41 PM
Goodnight (((Monkey Friends))))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 11, 2008, 11:51:42 PM
And, according to our friend David Lohr......

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/search-underway.html

Search Underway at Anthony Family Home

According to Orange County sheriff's spokesman Angelo Nieves, investigators have obtained the search warrant that they were seeking for the house of George and Cindy Anthony. The house has been taped off with crime scene tape and investigators are examining it for evidence.

It is believed the search is related to the discovery of a small child's remains that were discovered not far from the house earlier today. While a positive identification is still pending, they are believed to be the remains of Casey Anthony's missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony.

According to Tim Miller, founder and director of Texas EquuSearch, he was at the scene where the remains were found earlier today. During an interview with Nancy Graze, Miller said that there was an indentation in the ground, suggesting that they had been there for several months.

The child's remains have since been sent to the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Virginia, where experts are conducting expedited testing to identify the remains.

Investigators plan on conducting another search of the area where the remains were found again tomorrow. They plan on examining the soil and collecting any potential evidence that remains in the area.

Meanwhile, sources at the Orange County Jail are saying that Casey Anthony was "visibly shaken" when she received news of today's discovery. A mental health professional was sent to the jail to meet with her, at which time she was allegedly given a sedative to calm her nerves. Anthony is currently under psychological observation.

Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, spoke briefly with reporters this evening about today's discovery.

"I understand the circumstances as they are would lead most people to believe that these are Caylee's remains. But I must stress it's not," Baez said. "People have been wrong before. So unfortunately we can't make any comments and I think it would be inappropriate for me to make any comments until the medical examiner's office makes their determination. Once that determination is made…this obviously takes the case in a different direction but I have done and am doing everything I can as Casey’s representative and attorney to put us in the position to defend her."

George and Cindy have yet to comment on any of today's developments. They flew into Orlando from California late this afternoon. Sheriff's deputies reportedly met with them at the airport, at which time they were transported to an unknown location.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pinklady on December 11, 2008, 11:52:25 PM
Heres another thought.  Casey could have staged the scene by putting the duct tape on Caylee's mouth after Caylee was already deceased in an effort to make it look like the work of a kidnapping/murder. I'm just thinking that obviously everything Casey did in her own mind was to cover her own tracks.  Ooooh, I can't wait to find out what other contents were found in that plastic bag. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:53:08 PM
LP probably needs some closure too, he appears to have been consumed by this case.
Wanted it solved so bad. He took a verbal beating from alot of ppl too !
When that crime scene where they found the body is cleared and opened to the public, that would be a good place for people to go and leave things in memory of a sweet little girl who didn't have a chance. Better than hanging around outside of the Ant house and getting abusive to any Ants. Maybe the Rev Grund will put something together for a healing service at that place in Hidden Oaks. Ppl in Orlando have been consumed by this also.
How did NeJame put it ? Let go and let God. Go home and hug the little kids you know and be thankful for them.     
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?


mio say's,,,,,,nicely said......I hope we all sleep a bit more peaceful tonight. I still believe Caylee's death, will bring something good to society as a whole, if nothing more than a shoe of compassion.....
sorry
again...
It is not the place that the protestors were told to move?



cecilita is wondering if the crime scene where Caylee was found & Kat_Gram has said could be a place to leave memorials for little Caylee  is the same place the protestors were told to move.  I don't think it's the same place, as the crime scene was brushey and wooded.  Does any monkey know the answer to cecilita's question?
I do....no this isnt the place......that place is actually a empty lot, and I  believe it is in the other direction from where the body was found!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 11, 2008, 11:53:17 PM
ok ok, so Greta asks lp, why r you going to orlando, you did not know the family before, so why are you going, he says, to see grunds father...she says, you are going to see caseys ex boyfriends father on your dime, why, lp says, he wants to have a service for caylee, she says she does not see why he should go there, he says he is going to have dinner with najimie.....she said she still did not understand why he would spend his dime for a dinner.........yikes....


That WAS rather awkward, wasn't it.... ::MonkeyEek::
I thought it was rude. It's not really any of Greta's business.

It was very awkward but I don't think Greta has been keeping up with the personal dynamics of this case and everyone's relationships to each other - for instance, she didn't seem to be aware that Jesse Grund had actually been much more than "a former boyfriend " [ as she phrased it ]...he had been her fiance' - and had really been Cindy's target.  Also, she seemed not to know that LP and Richard Grund had become close friends.. It was awkward, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 11, 2008, 11:53:57 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html

Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues in Caylee Anthony Case
Thursday, December 11, 2008

The plastic bag and duct tape reportedly found with the remains of a child's body in Orlando, Fla., could help tie the unidentified skeleton to missing toddler Caylee Anthony, a forensic pathologist tells FOXNews.com.

The remains, found Thursday by a utility worker less than half a mile from Caylee's home, have yet to be identified, but investigators will be searching the scene for "a treasure trove of forensic evidence," FOX News contributor Michael Baden said.

Click here for photos.

Pathologists should be able to identify the body quickly from dental records, Baden said, and the plastic and duct tape could provide additional vital clues, including fingerprints. They could also provide clues to how the child died, and to who dumped the body.

"The beauty of duct tape — no matter rain, snow, sleet — that fingerprint will stay there," Baden said, adding that if someone used their teeth to rip it, it could yield DNA evidence too.

"Right now, they would be looking at all the contents of the plastic bag and they would be looking at the plastic bag itself," Baden said. "The fingerprints on the outside often get dissolved away by weather, but the inside of the plastic bag, the fingerprints would be there."

Two-year-old Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 16. Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, has been charged with first-degree murder of her daughter, child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about her disappearance.

Evidence found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire showed a decomposing body had been kept there. Strands of Caylee's hair were found, as were traces of chloroform.

"One important thing that I’ve hoped they’ve done already is take an air sample from the bag because they found chloroform in the vehicle and the cause of death still has to be determined," Baden said.

Finding chloroform could poke holes in the prosecution's first-degree murder case, if this is Caylee's body, he said.

"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.

If dental records cannot be used to identify the body, DNA evidence will be used to identify the skeletal remains. The remains will also be examined for signs of trauma.

"If there are fractures to the skeleton, then that goes again to first degree -- intentional suffering on the part of the baby," Baden said. "They can tell the baby suffered."





While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 11, 2008, 11:53:58 PM
Oh I just remembered something.  Can anyone attach any meaning now to Caseys tattoo or the song she liked to hear now that we know (prob) the location???  Goodnite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 11, 2008, 11:54:52 PM
Even for all the negative things I have said, thought, and written about the Anthony's I feel very sorry for them tonight. Having had to plan a funeral for our son, I know what they are going to have to do. Planning, choosing, writing the obit, etc, is a horrible ordeal, and I do hope that someone who cares about them will help.
That said, it does please me that Casey is not out on bond and will not be able to attend, that would just be salt in the wound.

Goodnight to all the monkeys. Tonight we can sleep with some sense of peace.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:55:47 PM
SS ~ Thank you for the continued news information.  It's appreciated.

cecilita  ~  What you are saying is the tape put on Caylee was to make it look like she had been kidnapped?

PJ ~  You will be in my thoughts and prayers, and I hope your surgery goes well.  When you get back, we will try to catch you up on anything you missed.  ((hugs))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2008, 11:58:36 PM
Good night to  all the monkeys headed for the bunkey.   :smt015


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 11, 2008, 11:59:16 PM
So according to LP Casey was seen in a parking lot the night she took off with Caylee, fathers day night correct...

From that the LE would know, hopefully, what Casey was wearing the night Caylee disappeared, if they do I wonder if they have found those..

Also I wonder if Caylee was wearing the same clothes she had on when she went to visit her Great-Grandpa?? Or was she in PJ's by then?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 11, 2008, 11:59:31 PM
This is just a thought, but  I was just wondering if maybe when the officers searched the area if they found something like uhhhh, that little block thing that George was talking about thatyou use to put under the tires of vehicles when you want to change there tires.....Im thinking that when casey threw the bag in the woods, maybe she also threw whatever else was in the trunk that decomp might have leaked on out in the woods also and we know that those were supposeingly in her trunk  and I have never heard that they were there when the trunk was searched and I never heard them mentioned again,  George said that they had several pairs of them and so maybe thats what the LE was looking for in the shed,  to see if they matched up with the ones they found>>>>>>just wondering


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: N2WISHN on December 12, 2008, 12:00:33 AM
According to LKL web site the Anthonys are going to be back on his show tomorrow night. Do these people have NO shame? 




They have no shame. They are amoral and completely disgusting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:01:17 AM
Hey Monks-

I am having an incredibly hard time today....I am stunned at the depth of my own grief, and I know that many of you are feeling the same way.  Many of these details (duct tape, garbage bag, etc.) are just mind boggling...I pray that Caylee did not suffer and has peace wherever she may be.  I have had a full night of responsibilities and I can barely keep it together...the tears are seemingly endless.

I am too cooked to read all the way back....just have a couple quick questions, so if any of you could help a fellow monk out I would SO appreciate it.

Did Cindy and George release a statement? What has their reaction been (I had to go before their plane landed)?

How positive are we about the duct tape?

TIA guys....all of you are beautiful and wonderful and make the world feel like a better place to be in.....love and hugs

Sweetgypsy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: da sparkenator on December 12, 2008, 12:02:12 AM
Wow it's so crazy here tonight sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself! ::MonkeyConfused:: I know it gets that way at times like these, but I don't know if I'm imagining it, or am in invisible again tonight? Any way guess I'm just being a paranoid monkey.  ::MonkeyShocked:: Sorry about that!
I'm just so glad, and praying this IS little CAYLEE. She doesn't deserve to be in the woods in a garbage bag, laying out there all alone. How could KC have sat in that home all those months, knowing she was just a short walk away. What did she think when it was raining or cold outside, knowing she was out there in the woods. How did she live with herself??

Hi Again, QM!!!!  I'm reading and enjoying your posts, you aren't being ignored.  I just am so stunned by the turn of events today, I can't bring myself to type anything that makes sense!

Good to "see" you!!!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:03:15 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 

Hello PJ........seems our prayers have been answered,  and I hope that this is what the knife was used for and not anything else........I get sick thinking what she could have done with a knife....Oh and good luck tomorrow! :smt052


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:03:58 AM
I wonder if Cindy will blame it on the meter reader????


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-worker-caylee-anthony-remains-121108,0,6103027.story

Worker may have found remains by accident

The identity of the utility worker who discovered the remains now thought to be of Caylee Anthony has not been released.

Orange County Utilities spokesman Tim Armstrong declined to reveal the identity of the worker during an interview with WKMG-TV. Armstrong also declined to speculate on the worker's reaction to finding the remains, but he did say, "he's taking some time off."

Armstrong explained the worker -- a water meter reader for Orange County Utilities -- was on his regular work route reading water meters when he discovered the remains. The area were the remains were found are away from any residential areas with water meters, but Armstrong would not explain why the worker was in that area.

It may be because it was all just happen-stance the worker discovered the remains. WESH-TV reported the worker had gone into a wooded area to relieve himself before he discovered the child's body.

Armstrong said there was no reason to suspect his worker was involved in any way with the disappearance of Caylee Marie. "There are no concerns at this time," Armstrong said, adding that the worker has been interviewed for several hours by Orange County deputies after the find to get information from him.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:04:56 AM
misitx ~  I think clothing (or lack of) could play important parts in this case. 

sweetgypsy ~  I don't believe Geo and Cindy released a statement when their plane landed.  I believe LE hustled them out the side or rear door asap.

TURBOTHINK ~  I don't think the Anthony's have any concern with shame.  I am wondering if they will cancel the Larry King show if the lawyer advises it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:06:57 AM
misitx ~  I think clothing (or lack of) could play important parts in this case. 

sweetgypsy ~  I don't believe Geo and Cindy released a statement when their plane landed.  I believe LE hustled them out the side or rear door asap.

TURBOTHINK ~  I don't think the Anthony's have any concern with shame.  I am wondering if they will cancel the Larry King show if the lawyer advises it?

Thank u Muffy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:07:07 AM
SS ~ Thank you for the continued news information.  It's appreciated.

cecilita  ~  What you are saying is the tape put on Caylee was to make it look like she had been kidnapped?

PJ ~  You will be in my thoughts and prayers, and I hope your surgery goes well.  When you get back, we will try to catch you up on anything you missed.  ((hugs))



You're welcome, Buffy.  A lot of the questions posters were asking are answered in those articles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:09:10 AM
SS ~ Thank you for the continued news information.  It's appreciated.

cecilita  ~  What you are saying is the tape put on Caylee was to make it look like she had been kidnapped?

PJ ~  You will be in my thoughts and prayers, and I hope your surgery goes well.  When you get back, we will try to catch you up on anything you missed.  ((hugs))



You're welcome, Buffy.  A lot of the questions posters were asking are answered in those articles.

SS ~ You are right.  There is a lot of info in the articles.  Thanks.  And when others are coming along to catch up reading, they will get the benefit too.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:09:39 AM
Hey Monks-

I am having an incredibly hard time today....I am stunned at the depth of my own grief, and I know that many of you are feeling the same way.  Many of these details (duct tape, garbage bag, etc.) are just mind boggling...I pray that Caylee did not suffer and has peace wherever she may be.  I have had a full night of responsibilities and I can barely keep it together...the tears are seemingly endless.

I am too cooked to read all the way back....just have a couple quick questions, so if any of you could help a fellow monk out I would SO appreciate it.

Did Cindy and George release a statement? What has their reaction been (I had to go before their plane landed)? Not that I'm aware of.  The police met them at the plane and they won't be going back to their home tonight.

How positive are we about the duct tape?  We are positive about duct tape but not positive if the duct tape was actually around the head/mouth area.  We will have to wait and see on that.

TIA guys....all of you are beautiful and wonderful and make the world feel like a better place to be in.....love and hugs

Sweetgypsy

My answers in red above. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:09:46 AM
Klaas...............can you tell me how many monkeys were in the cage today when all this was going on.....did we set a record with the attendence today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 12:10:05 AM
Nite Monkeys my little one has awoken and so I must go FINGERS CROSSED I can join you all tomorrow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:10:55 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 




I don't know, but I recently replaced my dryer vent and the aluminum duct.  The duct tape was very hard to cut.  I imagine that the knife could have been used for that, but I think Cindy washed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:11:14 AM
Nite Monkeys my little one has awoken and so I must go FINGERS CROSSED I can join you all tomorrow!
Nite Nite......sleep tight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:12:11 AM
Nite Monkeys my little one has awoken and so I must go FINGERS CROSSED I can join you all tomorrow!

Good night misitx.  Hope you can join us tomorrow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 12, 2008, 12:12:19 AM
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention. Casey Anthony, the child's 22-year-old mother, was charged last month with murder and other offenses. She is being held at the Orange County Jail.

The area where the remains were found had been searched as part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance, he said. But the precise spot where a county meter reader found them -- "45, 50, 60 feet back" from the street -- was flooded at the time of the search.

No clothes were found with the remains, Beary said.
Asked whether the remains could belong to another child, Beary said, "Not that we know of, but that's always a possibility, and that's why we've got a lot of work to do on this case still."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:13:15 AM
Hey Monks-

I am having an incredibly hard time today....I am stunned at the depth of my own grief, and I know that many of you are feeling the same way.  Many of these details (duct tape, garbage bag, etc.) are just mind boggling...I pray that Caylee did not suffer and has peace wherever she may be.  I have had a full night of responsibilities and I can barely keep it together...the tears are seemingly endless.

I am too cooked to read all the way back....just have a couple quick questions, so if any of you could help a fellow monk out I would SO appreciate it.

Did Cindy and George release a statement? What has their reaction been (I had to go before their plane landed)? Not that I'm aware of.  The police met them at the plane and they won't be going back to their home tonight.

How positive are we about the duct tape?  We are positive about duct tape but not positive if the duct tape was actually around the head/mouth area.  We will have to wait and see on that.

TIA guys....all of you are beautiful and wonderful and make the world feel like a better place to be in.....love and hugs

Sweetgypsy

My answers in red above. 

Thank u Klaas....If I am cooked, you MUST be exhausted!!!! ::MonkeyConfused::  Hugs for u....I think we could all use extra hugs today....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:15:03 AM
Klaas...............can you tell me how many monkeys were in the cage today when all this was going on.....did we set a record with the attendence today!

Stats:

Most Online Today: 478. Most Online Ever: 499 (November 13, 2008, 12:21:39 PM)

Close but did not break the record.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:16:04 AM
And I have a feeling we are all going to need extra DRINKS once we hear what good old Cindy and George finally have to say about this....I am mentally preparing myself for a barrage of BS....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 12, 2008, 12:18:31 AM
Good Night all!
 I will have my 2 1/2 yr. old granddaughter tomorrow and over night.   I need to get some rest. 
Thank you all for the welcome!  I have been reading here for a long time before actually posting. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:20:18 AM
Good Night all!
 I will have my 2 1/2 yr. old granddaughter tomorrow and over night.   I need to get some rest. 
Thank you all for the welcome!  I have been reading here for a long time before actually posting. 

Nite Grandma - glad you finally started posting  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:21:17 AM
I wonder if Cindy will blame it on the meter reader????


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-worker-caylee-anthony-remains-121108,0,6103027.story

Worker may have found remains by accident

The identity of the utility worker who discovered the remains now thought to be of Caylee Anthony has not been released.

Orange County Utilities spokesman Tim Armstrong declined to reveal the identity of the worker during an interview with WKMG-TV. Armstrong also declined to speculate on the worker's reaction to finding the remains, but he did say, "he's taking some time off."

Armstrong explained the worker -- a water meter reader for Orange County Utilities -- was on his regular work route reading water meters when he discovered the remains. The area were the remains were found are away from any residential areas with water meters, but Armstrong would not explain why the worker was in that area.

It may be because it was all just happen-stance the worker discovered the remains. WESH-TV reported the worker had gone into a wooded area to relieve himself before he discovered the child's body.

Armstrong said there was no reason to suspect his worker was involved in any way with the disappearance of Caylee Marie. "There are no concerns at this time," Armstrong said, adding that the worker has been interviewed for several hours by Orange County deputies after the find to get information from him.


I shared my experience trying to find water meters in wooded areas.....after the hurrikane Ike in texas most of the meters and taps we installed dissapeared...the contractor had to go back with a shovel to find those meters and taps (after a month and a half of hurricane Ike) ......it was really difficult and we had sketches to locate them but it was very difficult.....maybe she was trew there after tim cleared the area....? or if the body was always there it is a miracle that the meter reader found caylee's body


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:21:30 AM
DNA from the skull...

http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story/Skull-in-Caylee-case-could-still-reveal-few-clues/US_9UBVmzEOF_nWSE1V92A.cspx

Skull in Caylee case could still reveal few clues

WEST PALM BEACH, FL -- Lots of conjecture in the Caylee Anthony case.

 The remains of a child were found near the Anthony home and there has been no other missing child in Orange County...so, it must be her, right?

 For a forensic scientist though the truth is only what the bones tell them.

 "From a forensic perspective it doesn't matter," says Tony Mead with the Palm Beach County Medical Examiner's Office.  "It could be in the yard of the home and it wouldn't matter.  We still have to go through the process and it takes time."
 
 Mead isn't working the Anthony case, but he knows plenty about bags of bones.
 
 Right now there are 56 boxes of bones sitting in the medical examiner's office, dating back to the '60's.

 "Most of those?  All of those?" asks Holmes.

 "Unidentified," says Mead.

 "So this is still a tricky science?"

 "Yes it is."

 A skull holds the secret.
 
 Sometimes it speaks volumes, other times it's as silent as a tomb.

 Much depends on the condition of the skull.  Mead says a skull left in fresh water would have no flesh left, but the bone should be well preserved.   
 If the jaw or mandible is gone however there are fewer clues which lead to identity.  Often the mandible is what wild animals rip off and take.
 If the jaw is intact, then scientists have a better chance of pulling DNA from the pulp of the back teeth.

 "Best case scenario, is reconstruction and DNA," says Mead.  "And dental work.  But a child, it's hard to say if there's going to be dental work, because they're so young."

 Also, contrary to some media reports, Mead says there is no easy way to tell if a skull is male or female, especially if it's a child's.

 "Their skull isn't fully developed, but we look at the back to see if there is a notch in the back.  We look at the front to see how the forehead is sloped.  We look at the eye socket." 

 The good news is this is a top-priority case, and DNA results should be back in a few days.
 
 The DNA must then be compared to something.  Investigators revealed in August they have Caylee's DNA, but they are not disclosing how.  DNA samples have also been taken from Cindy and George Anthony.
 Also while some media outlets are reporting duct tape and a plastic bag were also found, right now investigators are only confirming that 'remains' were discoverd.   

 Perhaps this case will be solved in hours, but there is a chance, like the 56 other bags sitting in the medical examiner's office, that these bones may keep their secret.
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:21:47 AM
Good night Grandma  :smt015


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:22:37 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: N2WISHN on December 12, 2008, 12:23:54 AM
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention. Casey Anthony, the child's 22-year-old mother, was charged last month with murder and other offenses. She is being held at the Orange County Jail.

The area where the remains were found had been searched as part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance, he said. But the precise spot where a county meter reader found them -- "45, 50, 60 feet back" from the street -- was flooded at the time of the search.

No clothes were found with the remains, Beary said.
Asked whether the remains could belong to another child, Beary said, "Not that we know of, but that's always a possibility, and that's why we've got a lot of work to do on this case still."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail)



I can't comprehend how a mother that had a child die accidently could dispose of the child's body unclothed and thrown away in a garbage bag like a piece of trash.  If I wasn't convinced that Casey intentionally killed Caylee before, I certainly am now!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:25:43 AM
Quote
I shared my experience trying to find water meters in wooded areas.....after the hurrikane Ike in texas most of the meters and taps we installed dissapeared...the contractor had to go back with a shovel to find those meters and taps (after a month and a half of hurricane Ike) ......it was really difficult and we had sketches to locate them but it was very difficult.....maybe she was trew there after tim cleared the area....? or if the body was always there it is a miracle that the meter reader found caylee's body

cecilita ~ The area was under water when Tim went to search it the first time, and then there was a chain link fence cutting off access to it, I think is what has been said.  Tim said he thinks she's been there for a long time, because of the indention in the ground.  I'm not sure if they know or have said how long yet.  You are absolutely right in my opinion that it's a miracle the man found Caylee's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:25:46 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:25:46 AM
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention. Casey Anthony, the child's 22-year-old mother, was charged last month with murder and other offenses. She is being held at the Orange County Jail.

The area where the remains were found had been searched as part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance, he said. But the precise spot where a county meter reader found them -- "45, 50, 60 feet back" from the street -- was flooded at the time of the search.

No clothes were found with the remains, Beary said.
Asked whether the remains could belong to another child, Beary said, "Not that we know of, but that's always a possibility, and that's why we've got a lot of work to do on this case still."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail)



I can't comprehend how a mother that had a child die accidently could dispose of the child's body unclothed and thrown away in a garbage bag like a piece of trash.  If I wasn't convinced that Casey intentionally killed Caylee before, I certainly am now!!

The duct tape is what seals the deal for me....I can't get past that detail....makes the whole thing somehow harder to get a handle on....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:27:14 AM
Klaas...............can you tell me how many monkeys were in the cage today when all this was going on.....did we set a record with the attendence today!

Stats:

Most Online Today: 478. Most Online Ever: 499 (November 13, 2008, 12:21:39 PM)

Close but did not break the record.  ::MonkeyWink::
Thank You!!!!!!!!!    And Thank You for all that you do......make maps appear out of no where as soon as we ask....make picture that we post in life size magically go down 10 sizes..........remind us when we are being too silly....reprimend us when we get out of control.......make us new cages as soon as the old one starts to smell.....move our posts to the right place almost befor we realize it really doesnt belong here..............YOUR GREAT!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:28:34 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

When I saw the interaction between her and Sgt. Allen, I thought her body language was somehow guilty, like she was really trying to explain what she was doing there.  I know some other Monks read the whole thing as she was finding out from him about the discovery around the block, but I perceived it as more "caught with my hand in the cookie jar"....JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 12, 2008, 12:29:26 AM
Good Night Monkeys..

If the snow will just stay below 8-10 inches..the school buses should be running

See you in the morning for coffee! (well some of you anyway  ::MonkeyTongue:: )

Still a long road ahead but since there is now a lot of forensic work to do, it's a good thing Baez got the extension we needed he asked for  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:30:21 AM
GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!

It has been a long day.  I have so many mixed emotions.  Maybe a good night sleep is where it is at.

Janet
9:30 PM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:31:03 AM
Thanks HH

Today was a big day, a surprising day and one filled with mixed emotions for me.  On one hand I relieved they found Caylee's body but I'm saddened this happened at all.  Hopefully we are now one step closer to justice for little Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:31:38 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/12/120022/na-skeleton-found-near-caylees-home/

Skeleton Found Near Caylee's Home

ORLANDO - Authorities would not say skeletal remains found Thursday only a three-minute walk from the home of Caylee Anthony were those of the missing toddler.

Orange County sheriff's spokesman Carlos Padilla said the find was enough for authorities to seek a search warrant for the Anthony home.

Thursday night, investigators searched the home belonging to the grandparents of Caylee, who often lived there with her mother.

Authorities remain tight-lipped about their efforts.

"It would be premature to speculate," said Angelo Nieves, another sheriff's office spokesman.

Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, insists that she left the girl, who was 2 years old when she disappeared, with a babysitter in June. The child's grandmother reported to law enforcement in July that she had not seen Caylee for a month and that her daughter's car smelled like death.

Caylee's mother has since been charged with first-degree murder.

On Thursday, a utility worker stumbled upon remains of a small child less than a half-mile from where the girl lived. Investigators were trying to identify the remains.

News of the discovery attracted onlookers who ignored the constant rain and wind, lining the sidewalks and roadways in the area of Hope- spring Drive.

"This has really captivated this entire community," said Luis Carpena, who drove to the neighborhood because of the discovery. "You never think this will be so close, something like this will happen so close to home."

The skull that was found was underwater during previous searches for the toddler, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Sheriff Kevin Beary said Thursday that investigators could not immediately say whether the remains were those of Caylee. "Now the investigation continues," he said. "There is a lot of lab work to do. There is a lot of DNA work to do. There is a lot of crime scene work to do."

That didn't stop those in the crowd from reaching that conclusion.

"She can finally have a decent burial, and I know that's been my wish all along," Dorothy Jackson said.

Beary said authorities had searched the surrounding neighborhood several times since she was reported missing.

Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County Jail, said Casey Anthony was told about Thursday's discovery. She was placed under psychological observation, not suicide watch, and remains under protective custody. Her attorney, Jose Baez, visited her at the jail for about 90 minutes Thursday.
He said FBI and forensic investigators would work through the weekend to identify the remains.

Forensic experts said it was harder for investigators to identify a child's remains than an adult's, but they would have a few methods to pursue.

Medical examiners would probably look at photos of the child along with the skull, hoping to make a bone structure comparison, said Lee Jantz, coordinator of the forensic anthropology center at the University of Tennessee.

Bill Manion, a pathologist and an assistant medical examiner for Burlington County, N.J., said DNA testing could determine an identification even without other DNA from the victim, "as long as we know who the parents are or siblings."

Friends of Caylee's family didn't want to jump to the conclusion that this was Caylee. They also said they hoped the discovery would not cast more suspicion on her mother.

Todd Black, a spokesman for Anthony's defense attorney, told the Orlando Sentinel that he hoped the discovery is not related to their case.
"If it is, it is a sad day," he said.

Earlier Thursday, a judge had delayed Anthony's trial from January to March.

This month, the Orange County State Attorney's Office turned over almost 800 pages of documents that showed that someone at the Anthony home had done Internet searches for terms such as "neck breaking" and "household weapons."

In mid-March, someone used the Anthonys' laptop to do Google and Wikipedia searches for "peroxide," "shovels," "acetone," "alcohol" and "chloroform." Traces of chloroform, which is used to induce unconsciousness and also is a component of human decomposition, were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car during forensic testing, the documents state.

Orange County Jail officials also released several hours of videotape of visits to Anthony by family from July and August, when she was arrested on charges of neglect and other counts, but before she was charged with first-degree murder.

During the videotaped visits, Anthony's parents tell her they are trying hard to find the little girl. Anthony does not appear to add information to aid that search beyond her account that a babysitter took the girl.

After Caylee's grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen Caylee, police immediately interviewed Anthony and said that everything she told them about her daughter's whereabouts was false. The babysitter was nonexistent, and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months. Anthony also lied about where she worked.

The Orange County State Attorney's Office said in a news release last week that "it is not in the best interest of the people of the state of Florida" to pursue the death penalty against Anthony.

Danielle Tavernier, a spokeswoman for the prosecutors' office, said Thursday that the office was sticking by the decision for now but reserved the right to reassess the situation once the investigation of the body is concluded.

Tavernier and representatives of other prosecutors' offices said criminal charges could be amended.

Anthony's attorney, Baez, asked for the delay to have additional time to review the pretrial discovery in the case.

Baez said he would ask to have the trial moved from Orlando.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:31:45 AM
Good night Sea Searcher.  BTW, do you keep a thermos of coffee on your bedside table?  I knew a couple that used to do that.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

It sure will be interesting to see what we find out in the coming days, weeks and months in this case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:31:56 AM
So when are we thinking this trial will happen?  March or Aprilish?  No rush in my book...just wondering


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: funkymonkey on December 12, 2008, 12:32:17 AM
Oh my...I have had to wait all day and most of the night to reply... I've been reading like crazy!!  God Bless little Caylee. 

With that said, my brain was on overload today while they were taping off the Ant's home and backyard and what they were looking for that cause the rugh from the location of the body.  I thought about the JCP thing...did anyone ever mention here that KC may have wrapped Caylee in the shower curtain from the home...thus having to purchase and replace it b4 being discovered?  If it is the exact same shower curtain (or comforter or whatever for that fact) that little Caylee was found wrapped in inside that bag.....well you know....

Also, in looking at the maps... LA's home is about the same distance (maybe a little further) from where the body was found as the Ant's home is!  She was placed right smack dab in the middle of both homes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:34:41 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)
Please dont throw nanners at me, they would prolly knock me out about now..........but I really dont think Mallory would tamper with anything or put herself in jeapordy for the A's at all..I really believe she was just going to do what she had been asked to do and that was take care of the dogs...The neighbors didnt think anything suspitous about her being there, they even came out and talked to LE and told them she was there to take care of the animals,  I believe she has had a problem with all this going on and has kept herself away from the media and she is prolly the reason for Lee's hiding also, so I dont see any reason for her to go out on a limb now!!!!!


Title: Re: FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH POST
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 12:35:30 AM
The following is a post I made on this forum not long ago in which I "predicted" some things after drawing a Tarot card for Caylee.  The card drawn was Death -- no kidding -- and here are some things I garnered from that.  I am not an expert at Tarot.  It is a parlor game to me, but here are the results.

174 Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53 on: November 04, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
CAYLEE ANTHONY -- SEARCH FOR HER BODY THIS WEEK -- DEATH -- Death of someone you know, body near water (canal or river), religious person looking on, rider on white horse, sun in distance, (rising sun of immortality), flag with white rose on it, boat on water, cliff or wall, two pillars beyond. White rose signifies purity. An important ending, also grief but relief, too. In three to six hours days or months, many changes will take place. Transition, transformation, the end of a cycle. Loss must be acknowledged, come to terms with and mourned.

Some people have gone out on a limb about what they think might happen in the search for Caylee or in the case in general. I may as well do the same. I can only be wrong. And I might be right. This is what my thoughts have led me to.

I think Caylee's body will be found near water, a canal or a river. It may have been left in reeds or sawgrass there or it may have washed up or floated up in a container. There may be horses, specifically a white horse, nearby. Or she may be found by someone riding a horse. A religious person, perhaps a Catholic or a minister of some kind, may find her or be in the party that finds her or the much-talked-about cross may be found with her body or on her body. I sense a rising sun, so it seems she may be found in the morning, even the early morning or perhaps a setting sun, which would mean her being found close to dusk. The body may be between two trees or two pillars of some kind and a plowed field is nearby or something is growing that needs harvesting. I sense a boat on the water and a flag on the boat. I also see a white rose and a mass of gray, either a fence or wall or maybe gray-looking water. There will be great grief when the body is found but also great relief. Three to six hours, days or months figure into this somehow. Perhaps she will be found 3 hours after a search begins or after someone has searched for six hours or three days. The body will be skeletal, but the skeleton will be intact. Just what I sense will happen...nothing scientific. Just thoughts and feelings.

(ANALYSIS:  Caylee was found in woods that apparently had been FENCED OFF for a while.  The remains were in a CONTAINER, a bag.  The area had been flooded and the body may have been buried or covered and FLOATED to the surface.  She was found in the MORNING.  The body is SKELETAL and it may be INTACT.  Remains were found almost SIX MONTHS to the day from when she went missing.  TREES were definitely around the remains.  A SERPENT is often associated with this card, and the area is said to be steep and full of SNAKES.  The MASS OF GRAY may be the duct tape, though that is a stretch.  A CHILD is on the Death card is almost every Tarot deck.  It is also associated with the astrological sign Scorpio, with a sex-death connection, with the Number 13 and with with things that are unavoidable or inescapable.  It is also about the end of a phase that can never be recaptured.  It does not always refer to the physical death of a person, but it can.  If not the physical death, it is about the complete ending of one part of life.  Someone is usually brought low when this card is drawn.  I


Spooky, I don't know anything about Tarot cards, but that creeps me out. Thanks for the info.

Hudsunn, nice job looking at the card. I'm a Tarot person through and through and thought you did a great job interpreting the card. Very accurate in the end. I pulled a card today when I heard they found the body, and that's the card it was for me, too. I always interpret the Death card as a "moment of truth," that moment when everything real (the bones,) is exposed and there can be no more hiding. Very appropriate for what's happening now.

I also pulled the Fool card, which is appropriate when you think of how the body was found--not by the experts or LE or TES, or any of us searching, but by some guy who had to take a pee. Go figure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:35:51 AM
Good night Janet.  I hope you and Duckie have a safe trip home.

funkymonkey ~  Your theory about KC wrapping Caylee in shower curtain or comforter and having to replace them from JCP (receipts) is quite interesting, and possible.  I guess we will find out in the future.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 12, 2008, 12:35:52 AM
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention. Casey Anthony, the child's 22-year-old mother, was charged last month with murder and other offenses. She is being held at the Orange County Jail.

The area where the remains were found had been searched as part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance, he said. But the precise spot where a county meter reader found them -- "45, 50, 60 feet back" from the street -- was flooded at the time of the search.

No clothes were found with the remains, Beary said.
Asked whether the remains could belong to another child, Beary said, "Not that we know of, but that's always a possibility, and that's why we've got a lot of work to do on this case still."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail)



I can't comprehend how a mother that had a child die accidently could dispose of the child's body unclothed and thrown away in a garbage bag like a piece of trash.  If I wasn't convinced that Casey intentionally killed Caylee before, I certainly am now!!

 ITA-Casey was out there buying clothes for herself, partying ,eating, having the good life.
La Bella Vita, while her daughter lies naked in a garbage bag in the woods. I am so sick..
I pray to God that Caylee did not suffer.. May Casey rot in hell.. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Charlie on December 12, 2008, 12:36:16 AM
Thank you islandmonkey for putting my pic up that you made for me.  They found her!  Casey going down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 12:38:25 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)
Please dont throw nanners at me, they would prolly knock me out about now..........but I really dont think Mallory would tamper with anything or put herself in jeapordy for the A's at all..I really believe she was just going to do what she had been asked to do and that was take care of the dogs...The neighbors didnt think anything suspitous about her being there, they even came out and talked to LE and told them she was there to take care of the animals,  I believe she has had a problem with all this going on and has kept herself away from the media and she is prolly the reason for Lee's hiding also, so I dont see any reason for her to go out on a limb now!!!!!

ITA, HH. I think Mallory was probably just there to feed the dogs. I am worried about how they will be taken care of now that the house is a crime scene. Is LE going to feed them, or did they send them home with Mallory?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: sweetgypsy on December 12, 2008, 12:40:41 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)
Please dont throw nanners at me, they would prolly knock me out about now..........but I really dont think Mallory would tamper with anything or put herself in jeapordy for the A's at all..I really believe she was just going to do what she had been asked to do and that was take care of the dogs...The neighbors didnt think anything suspitous about her being there, they even came out and talked to LE and told them she was there to take care of the animals,  I believe she has had a problem with all this going on and has kept herself away from the media and she is prolly the reason for Lee's hiding also, so I dont see any reason for her to go out on a limb now!!!!!

ITA, HH. I think Mallory was probably just there to feed the dogs. I am worried about how they will be taken care of now that the house is a crime scene. Is LE going to feed them, or did they send them home with Mallory?

I think they are taken into custody by the local ASPCA....an addition on a house near mine burned down and it was suspected arson, and they took the dogs out of the house...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 12, 2008, 12:41:05 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)
Please dont throw nanners at me, they would prolly knock me out about now..........but I really dont think Mallory would tamper with anything or put herself in jeapordy for the A's at all..I really believe she was just going to do what she had been asked to do and that was take care of the dogs...The neighbors didnt think anything suspitous about her being there, they even came out and talked to LE and told them she was there to take care of the animals,  I believe she has had a problem with all this going on and has kept herself away from the media and she is prolly the reason for Lee's hiding also, so I dont see any reason for her to go out on a limb now!!!!!

ITA, HH. I think Mallory was probably just there to feed the dogs. I am worried about how they will be taken care of now that the house is a crime scene. Is LE going to feed them, or did they send them home with Mallory?

Maybe George and Sin-dy should move in with Baez for awhile.. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:41:25 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)
Please dont throw nanners at me, they would prolly knock me out about now..........but I really dont think Mallory would tamper with anything or put herself in jeapordy for the A's at all..I really believe she was just going to do what she had been asked to do and that was take care of the dogs...The neighbors didnt think anything suspitous about her being there, they even came out and talked to LE and told them she was there to take care of the animals,  I believe she has had a problem with all this going on and has kept herself away from the media and she is prolly the reason for Lee's hiding also, so I dont see any reason for her to go out on a limb now!!!!!

ITA, HH. I think Mallory was probably just there to feed the dogs. I am worried about how they will be taken care of now that the house is a crime scene. Is LE going to feed them, or did they send them home with Mallory?
Im sure they did whatever was best for them...no way they wanted them under foot while they were searching...Im sure they wouldnt want them stepped on or lost or anything and so Im sure they have been taken care of and they prolly did give them to Mallory to take care of...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:43:05 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/12/na-caylee-anthony-saga-has-taken-many-turns/

Caylee Anthony Saga Has Taken Many Turns

July 15 - Caylee's grandmother tells the Orange County Sheriff's Office that her daughter won't disclose Caylee's whereabouts. Upon questioning, Casey Anthony, Caylee's mother, says she has not seen the 2-year-old since June 9.

July 17 - Casey Anthony is arrested on charges of child neglect and criminal obstruction after investigators decide the mother has lied to them numerous times.

July 22 - A judge sets bail at $500,000 for Anthony after learning that evidence of possible human decomposition was found in her car.

July 31 - Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, interviewed on NBC's "Today" show, says "pieces of the puzzle" are coming together regarding Caylee's disappearance, but declines to elaborate.

Aug. 5 - Casey Anthony is officially charged by the state with child neglect, a third-degree felony; filing a false statement; and obstructing the investigation.

Aug. 20 - A bondsman guarantees Anthony's $500,000 bail, and she is released from jail the next day.

Aug. 26 - Hundreds of documents released by prosecutors depict Anthony as an unbalanced person who wanted to give Caylee up for adoption before she was born. The documents also reveal that Anthony's mother told one of Anthony's friends that her daughter was a "sociopath" and that he should stop talking to her.

Aug. 29 - Anthony is rearrested on charges unrelated to Caylee's disappearance. She is charged with uttering a forged instrument, fraudulent use of personal information and petty theft.

Sept. 1 - The Orange County Sheriff's Office confirms that a decomposing body had been in the trunk of Anthony's car and that hair found there belonged to Caylee.

Sept. 2 - A deal offering limited immunity in exchange for anything Anthony knows about her daughter's disappearance expires.

Sept. 5 - Anthony is again released from jail on bail.

Sept. 11 - Prosecutors file 10 additional charges of theft and check forgery against Anthony. She turns herself in on Sept. 15 and is released the next day on bail.

Oct. 14 - Anthony is indicted by a grand jury on charges of first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about the disappearance of her daughter. She is held without bail.

Nov. 13 - A plastic bag containing toys and bones is found in an Orlando lake, but it is determined there is no connection to Caylee.

Dec. 5 - The state attorney's office says it will not seek the death penalty against Anthony.

Thursday - A utility worker finds the skeletal remains of a small child less than a half-mile from where Caylee and her mother lived. It is unknown whether they are those of Caylee. Earlier in the day, a judge postpones Anthony's murder trial.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:46:37 AM
Thank you islandmonkey for putting my pic up that you made for me.  They found her!  Casey going down!
It is possible the caylee was killed at the GP's house? if she left the house with caylee alive and George as a witness....she had to kill caylee at the driveways put her in a bag a half of block of her house and trow the body leaving the neighboardhood. i do not understand why Casey should go back close to her house just to disposed the body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:48:56 AM
Did Lee show up at the crime scene? where is him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cheerio on December 12, 2008, 12:49:49 AM
Hey late night monkeys, isn't strange that KC drove around with Caylee's body in the trunk decomposing for so long? LP said 2 weeks. Why did she wait so long?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: funkymonkey on December 12, 2008, 12:49:55 AM
I never saw the guy that found the remains on any coverage tonight.  Did anybody actually see the meter reader at the site today?  Could he have possibly discovered this yesterday and they went out this morning with a team and waited before announcing it...knowing full well that Jose was about to ask for a continuence?

I have always been a suspicious monkey...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:50:43 AM
SS ~ Thank you for the continued news information.  It's appreciated.

cecilita  ~  What you are saying is the tape put on Caylee was to make it look like she had been kidnapped?

PJ ~  You will be in my thoughts and prayers, and I hope your surgery goes well.  When you get back, we will try to catch you up on anything you missed.  ((hugs))



You're welcome, Buffy.  A lot of the questions posters were asking are answered in those articles.
Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:51:22 AM
Did Lee show up at the crime scene? where is him?
Lee was in court early this morning,   then I do believe he did show up later at the scene, and now we havent heard where he is............Maybe his house is where george and cindy are...or they have all gone to a hotel for the night...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:51:39 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-caylee12-2008dec12,0,4478400.story

Remains are suspected to be missing toddler's

Reporting from Orlando, Fla. -- A meter reader may have solved a heartbreaking five-month mystery Thursday when he stumbled across a plastic bag containing what investigators suspect are the remains of Caylee Marie Anthony.

The worker walked into a patch of woods less than half a mile from where the missing toddler lived and saw the bag on the ground. When he picked it up, a child's skull rolled out.


The area had been underwater when volunteers and officials searched for signs of the girl, who was reported missing in July.

Within hours, dozens of reporters, police and onlookers had gathered in the rain. One man set up a flower-covered cross. Another openly sobbed. A nearby elementary school released students through a back exit, steering them away from the frantic scene.

Nothing immediately indicated that the remains were Caylee's. But Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said his investigators and the FBI would work around the clock to identify the child.


"Now the investigation continues," Beary said. "There is a lot of lab work to do. There is a lot of DNA work to do. There is a lot of crime scene work to do."

On Thursday night, authorities returned to the home where Caylee and her mother lived to look for more clues.

Caylee was 2 when she was reported missing July 15. Her third birthday would have been Aug. 9.

Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, has maintained that she left Caylee with a baby-sitter in June. But she didn't report the child missing until after her own mother called police to say that she hadn't seen her grandchild in a month and that her daughter's car smelled like death.

Police immediately interviewed Casey Anthony and said later that everything she told them about her daughter's whereabouts was false. The baby-sitter was nonexistent, and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months. Anthony also lied about where she worked.

Anthony was indicted in October on first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child, four counts of providing false information to law enforcement and a slew of check-fraud charges. She is being held without bail at the Orange County Jail.

On Thursday, she was told about the discovery and placed under psychological observation -- not suicide watch. Her attorney, Jose Baez, visited her but did not return calls seeking comment.

For months, Anthony, Baez and her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, have said that Caylee is alive.

George and Cindy Anthony were flying from California, where they appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live" on Wednesday, as Thursday's events unfolded. After they landed at Orlando International Airport, police rushed them off the plane and away from the media. Orlando attorney Brad Conway, who said he represented George and Cindy Anthony, told reporters his clients were "obviously shocked."  
"It's the worst possible news they could get," Conway said, referring to the body found near their home.

Hours after the remains were discovered, Baez filed an emergency motion in court, requesting the defense be present for all forensic testing.

A hearing is set for today. Deborah Smith, an independent search volunteer, said she believed the remains belonged to Caylee.

"I'm glad she was found before Christmas so they can give her a proper burial," Smith said.

The Orlando Sentinel and the Associated Press contributed to this report


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:53:44 AM
Did Lee show up at the crime scene? where is him?
Lee was in court early this morning,   then I do believe he did show up later at the scene, and now we havent heard where he is............Maybe his house is where george and cindy are...or they have all gone to a hotel for the night...
It is very possible that they will not open their mouth. Maybe they are studing what to say to the media


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:53:51 AM
I never saw the guy that found the remains on any coverage tonight.  Did anybody actually see the meter reader at the site today?  Could he have possibly discovered this yesterday and they went out this morning with a team and waited before announcing it...knowing full well that Jose was about to ask for a continuence?

I have always been a suspicious monkey...
uhhh  no we didnt, but LE questioned himfor a long time today and his employer said that was the area he was working from this morning............I doubt anybody would find a body and then wait for the next day to say anything...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:54:53 AM
I wonder if the meter reader will get the reward?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 12:57:18 AM
I wonder if the meter reader will get the reward?
I doubt it...I think the reward was for someone to give information, not to stumble across the body and get it.....I dont know but if he does I hope he donats a portion of it to help other missing children!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: funkymonkey on December 12, 2008, 12:58:00 AM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 12:58:05 AM
funkeymonkey - there's an article two or three pages back about the meter reader with a statement from the water company.  I think he was just a guy who had to empty his bladder and fortunately he found Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 12:59:01 AM
I wonder if the meter reader will get the reward?
I hope he will get the reward. He could get scared and threw the bones and do not say anything just to keep himself out of trouble


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 12, 2008, 12:59:06 AM
Minute-To-Minute Update
8:31 p.m.: Sheriff's investigators have shown up at the Anthony home to serve the search warrant. They brought in brown bags and boxes.

6:08 p.m.: A search warrant has been signed for investigators to go into the Anthony home. They could be at the house between 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. to serve the warrant.

6:03 p.m.: Deputies called off the search at the scene for the evening. The Sheriff's office will remain out at the site overnight. They also said the utility worker went into the woods to relieve himself when he found the bag. He opened the bag, noticed the bones and called police. The Sheriff's office clarified the bag was found only 20 to 30 feet into the woods.  Sheriff Beary told reporters earlier in the afternoon it was found 50 to 60 feet. 

5:46 p.m.: Tim Miller, founder of Texas EquuSearch says that the area where the child's remains were found was under water when they tried to search in September. They suspended the search because they were afraid they would push any possible remains down into the mud or destroy them. "The smartest move I ever made was to stop the search the first time," Miller said.

5:01 p.m.: Texas EquuSearch arrives on the scene where the remains were found.  Also, Todd Black, Jose Baez' spokesman, said Baez would not be making a statement until the medical examiner releases her findings.

4:58 p.m.: Beary tells News 13 that they are going to let the ground around the alleged crime scene dry overnight and start searching for evidence again on Friday morning.

4:25 p.m.: Casey's attorney Jose Baez files a motion to preserve and inspect evidence and forensics in Thursday's discovery. It will be heard Friday morning at 11:30 a.m. Read the Motion.

4:20 p.m.: The Anthonys arrive at Orlando International Airport from a trip to California.

4:10 p.m.: Beary told the media, "I want no craziness at the Anthony house." 

4:05 p.m.: Mark NeJame, the former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, tells News 13 that he has spoken with lead detective John Allen and with the FBI. He said Allen told him that the Anthonys were called about the remains before they left California so they would not find out from the media.

NeJame also said that part of the reason he resigned as the Anthony's lawyer was because they were in denial about their daughter's involvement in Caylee's disappearance and that he could not endorse them saying Casey is innocent. "I resigned a few weeks ago because I could not support, in any way, shape or form, Casey."

"I've been expecting this day for a while and although it is a very, very sad day, I think in many ways we can now really pass on our full blessings to this child and allow her to go in the peace that she deserves and allowing her mother to be prosecuted as she deserves," NeJame said.

3:50 p.m.: Sheriff is trying to get a warrant to search the Anthony home. The remains have been removed from the discovery scene.

3:30 p.m.: Beary says sheriff's office is seeking a search warrant for the Anthony's home.  Beary said the Anthonys are being cooperative and warns he does not want "craziness" at the Anthony home. The home has been secured as a possible crime scene.

2:07 p.m.: According to the sheriff's office, the body was found approximately 50 to 60 feet into the woods. Sheriff Beary said the State Attorney's Office has asked them not to release any information about the evidence found.

1:44 p.m.: The sheriff's office closes the intersection of Suburban and Hopespring Drive, preventing parents from picking up their children at Hidden Oaks Elementary School.

1:38 p.m.: Beary told the media that the FBI at Quantico is awaiting any remains that Orange County forensics wants examined. He said the discovery has been made a priority and they would work through the weekend if necessary.

1:25 p.m.: Sheriff Kevin Beary speaks to media.  Beary said investigators will be on the scene for a long time -- all night if necessary.

1:10 p.m.: Sheriff Kevin Beary arrives. News 13 learns that the utility worker who found the remains works for the Orange County Water Department.

1:05 p.m.: Investigators say they will be on the scene for an extensive period of time.

12:51 p.m. CNN tells News 13 that George and Cindy Anthony will be arriving at the Orlando International Airport around 4:25 p.m.

12:47 p.m.: Cold rain is making the search for evidence difficult.  The remains have not yet been removed. News 13 talked to a number of people involved in Texas EquuSearch's efforts to find Caylee. One man said he had been searching a very short distance away from where the remains were found. He also said, while they were looking for the girl, there was a feeling among the group that there was something eerie about the area they were searching.

12:37 p.m.: Mobile command unit arrives on the scene of the discovery.

12:27 p.m.: News 13 reports that about 12:05 p.m., a woman drove up to the Anthony home and rushed inside. She was followed shortly by a sheriff's deputy who knocked on the door and asked the woman to leave.

12:10 p.m.: Medical examiner arrives on the scene where the remains were found.

12:06 p.m.: The Anthonys said through a representative that  the area where the remains were found had already been searched. Texas EquuSearch says that when they tried to search this area in September, it was under water. When they returned in November, the area had been roped off.

11:49 a.m.: George and Cindy Anthony say Caylee is still alive.

11:48 a.m.: OCSO Angelo Nieves says the Anthonys have been notified.

11:46 a.m.: FBI lab will examine the remains.

11:40 a.m.: Anthony spokesperson Michelle Bart says she is flying to Orlando this afternoon.

11:35 a.m.: Sheriff's office establish media center at a church near intersection of crime scene.

11:30: a.m.: Sheriff's Office: We don't know if body is Caylee Anthony.

11:18 a.m.: Anthony's spokesperson said they have not been notified by sheriff's office.

11:17 a.m.: OSCO confirms the discovery is a small child.  Utilities worker said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up.

11:10 a.m.: Anthony family spokesperson Michelle Bart said Cindy and George Anthony do not believe that the discovery is that of their granddaughter.  The Anthonys are returning from California where they were on "Larry King Live." See story. The Anthonys are scheduled to arrive at Orlando International Airport in the next few hours. News 13 will attempt to meet with the Anthonys once they land to get their reaction.11:07 a.m.: News 13 confirms FBI headed to the scene.

9:32 a.m. : Utilities worker finds remains.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/11/deputies_discover_body_of_child.html (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/11/deputies_discover_body_of_child.html)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 12:59:12 AM
Who is Dr. G?

Dr. G is the Chief Medical Examiner for FL.  She also has her own show on Discovery Health.  You can find more information about here here on the Discovery website http://health.discovery.com/fansites/drg/bio/bio.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bowtiegirl on December 12, 2008, 12:59:48 AM
God Bless Caylee

Lord God, you gave us Caylee for so short a time. Her life had so much promise. Her future was before Her. Her life has passed too quickly. We entrust Caylee into your hands, trusting that you even now embrace her in your love. Welcome her into heaven together with all children who have died. May we know your saving peace. Amen.


Amen..and thank you Lord for answering our prayers.  We know that Caylee is with you and everything is in your control.. Please watch over the Anthony family and give them the courage that they need to do the right thing.  Bless all that have come together in the name of Caylee Marie...Amen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: West Coast Monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:59:48 AM
Listen to time codes 5:03 to 5:48 in this interview between LE and Cindy (link below). Listen all the way to time code 5:48. So, on the evening of the 15th, sometime after Cindy brought Caylee back from the greatgrandparents' visit, Casey took Caylee out with her during the night and Cindy told them they had to come home. Why is this little tidbit about the 15th left out of all the info and conversations usually replayed over and over and discussed? Did Casey bring her home, as Cindy ordered, and then the infamous fight between Casey and Cindy on the 15th ensued (and it wasn't really about the stolen money)? Or did Casey refuse to bring her home that night, and this is really the last time Caylee was seen, as she was killed that night (and thus George is lying about the morning of the 16th, as we have all suspected)? Or is Cindy just altogether lying about Casey being out with Caylee on the night of the 15th? I am confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA6j8JY2VA&feature=related

I'm about 10 pages behind, but I thought she was discussing July 15th when she told KC to bring her home, not June 15th...?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SS on December 12, 2008, 01:00:42 AM
God bless this child.  She never did anything to deserve this....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 01:00:59 AM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)
Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: faith1109 on December 12, 2008, 01:06:31 AM
I finally have all 3 girls sleeping peacefully as well as my Hubby so I can finally post.  I found out today at lunch after my daughters Christmas program.  My mom said they found Caylee and I truly almost got sick at the table.  I had no idea how emotionally invested I had become.  I felt like I had just heard this about a loved one. 
Reading your reactions has helped so much.  There are so many here who felt the same at this news.
I don't know what else to say but express my appreciation for going through this with me.  To know that she was loved by so many who never had the honor of meeting her, but have adopted her in their hearts and minds is, I hope, of some comfort to those who deserve to be comforted.
For those that do not deserve that, I hope we are a reminder that Caylee should have had unconditional love, care, and a future.  That is why we haven't been able to let go and why we can't fathom how you could.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 01:09:50 AM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....

Yes, but they have said there are reports that tape was found on the skull itself.. not just on the bag?

I hate to be gross, but the tape would not be stuck to the bones if it was put on there when there was still skin and flesh etc...For some reason CNN said there was tape on the mouth of the skull, but that's really unlikely. There might have been tape there that they figured was once stuck to the face, but with no more face there'd be....well, you know, tape falling off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 01:11:13 AM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)
Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........
so it means the meter reading was paying his water bill when he found caylle's body ::MonkeyTongue:: it is a wonderful how god works in our lives


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 01:13:44 AM
Any thoughts on why the hell there would be duct tape ON the skull itself??  ::MonkeyShocked::
I believe.....there was duct tape around the bag.....like to keep it closed, not on the skull it self....

Yes, but they have said there are reports that tape was found on the skull itself.. not just on the bag?

I hate to be gross, but the tape would not be stuck to the bones if it was put on there when there was still skin and flesh etc...For some reason CNN said there was tape on the mouth of the skull, but that's really unlikely. There might have been tape there that they figured was once stuck to the face, but with no more face there'd be....well, you know, tape falling off.
I thought the same....maybe george or lee did it to make us to believe that the kidnaperds did it. If the tape was on the skull it means that several weeks had to pass on order to be a skeleton it shoul be more than 4 weeks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 12, 2008, 01:15:25 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 

Hello PJ........seems our prayers have been answered,  and I hope that this is what the knife was used for and not anything else........I get sick thinking what she could have done with a knife....Oh and good luck tomorrow! :smt052



Hi HH,

I'm getting there.  Just 4-5 more pages to go and I'll be caught up ::MonkeyDance::.  Yes our Prayers seem to have been answered.  Oh but I can't wait until I can say that and know there has been confirmation.  Please if you can, fire me a nanner and let me know.  I'll check there before I log on to SM.

Thank You for your Prayers and good wishes for later this morning.
Bless Your Heart!
PJ (Paula) :flower:


Thank you also MuffyBee for your Prayers and well wishes for later this morning.  I have to say that this is such a relief and Blessing for all of us Monkeys.
Bless Your Heart!
PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 01:18:29 AM
Oh.. and why the hell was Mallory at the house today?  ::MonkeyNoNo::   (Surely she knew Lee wasn't there... and obviously Cindy and George were not at home)

I read that she was there to feed the little yorkies. Makes sense to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 01:21:03 AM
Oh.. and why the hell was Mallory at the house today?  ::MonkeyNoNo::   (Surely she knew Lee wasn't there... and obviously Cindy and George were not at home)

I read that she was there to feed the little yorkies. Makes sense to me.
Mallry is Lee's ex girlfriend? well makes sense because neither their family wants to be around them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: alwayz-wondering on December 12, 2008, 01:21:31 AM
What exactly is phsychological watch?  How is it different than suicide watch?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mtnmom on December 12, 2008, 01:21:41 AM
This might be a bit gruesome but I know caylee wore her hair in a pony tail. Is it possible they couduve found in the bag her ponytail? i keep wondering why they think the skull is female.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 12, 2008, 01:22:11 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 




I don't know, but I recently replaced my dryer vent and the aluminum duct.  The duct tape was very hard to cut.  I imagine that the knife could have been used for that, but I think Cindy washed it.



I'm kind of hoping that it (tape) may have a jagged look to it on the edge.  They would then be able to match it up with the knives in the Anthony's home.   :2thinky:

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:26:58 AM
I wonder if the water meter guy will get the reward money????

IMO, by all rights, it ought to be fully his.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: faith1109 on December 12, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 

 
I hope that is true as well and only the beginning of the evidence they can begin to amass against evil
Incarnate casey


I don't know, but I recently replaced my dryer vent and the aluminum duct.  The duct tape was very hard to cut.  I imagine that the knife could have been used for that, but I think Cindy washed it.



I'm kind of hoping that it (tape) may have a jagged look to it on the edge.  They would then be able to match it up with the knives in the Anthony's home.   :2thinky:

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: West Coast Monkey on December 12, 2008, 01:28:04 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)
Was this the same area where the 5 witnesses saw the hole with the rope (police reports in the last document dump)?  Seeing the picture in this view makes me think it is...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 01:29:02 AM
While reading your post SS, I thought of the kitchen knife that was in the trunk and Spindy said she washed.  It could have been used to cut the duck tape.  It seems such an odd thing to find in the trunk of a car.

PJ (Paula) 




I don't know, but I recently replaced my dryer vent and the aluminum duct.  The duct tape was very hard to cut.  I imagine that the knife could have been used for that, but I think Cindy washed it.



I'm kind of hoping that it (tape) may have a jagged look to it on the edge.  They would then be able to match it up with the knives in the Anthony's home.   :2thinky:

PJ (Paula) :flower:

Hi guys!

Duct tape is really hard to cut but even though it's weird, Duct tape is pretty easy to tear as long as you're tearing it across and not lengthwise. It's the way the "thready things" run that are in the tape. I've torn lots of duct tape and have no strength in my hands.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 12, 2008, 01:29:30 AM
I wonder if Cindy will blame it on the meter reader????


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-worker-caylee-anthony-remains-121108,0,6103027.story

Worker may have found remains by accident

The identity of the utility worker who discovered the remains now thought to be of Caylee Anthony has not been released.

Orange County Utilities spokesman Tim Armstrong declined to reveal the identity of the worker during an interview with WKMG-TV. Armstrong also declined to speculate on the worker's reaction to finding the remains, but he did say, "he's taking some time off."

Armstrong explained the worker -- a water meter reader for Orange County Utilities -- was on his regular work route reading water meters when he discovered the remains. The area were the remains were found are away from any residential areas with water meters, but Armstrong would not explain why the worker was in that area.

It may be because it was all just happen-stance the worker discovered the remains. WESH-TV reported the worker had gone into a wooded area to relieve himself before he discovered the child's body.

Armstrong said there was no reason to suspect his worker was involved in any way with the disappearance of Caylee Marie. "There are no concerns at this time," Armstrong said, adding that the worker has been interviewed for several hours by Orange County deputies after the find to get information from him.


I shared my experience trying to find water meters in wooded areas.....after the hurrikane Ike in texas most of the meters and taps we installed dissapeared...the contractor had to go back with a shovel to find those meters and taps (after a month and a half of hurricane Ike) ......it was really difficult and we had sketches to locate them but it was very difficult.....maybe she was trew there after tim cleared the area....? or if the body was always there it is a miracle that the meter reader found caylee's body



Hi Cecilita,

I would rather go with your choice of this being a Miracle.  I just must cling to the belief that it was Divine Guidance.  I'm saying extra Prayer for the meter worker each time I see him mentioned.  It has to be so difficult for him.  He will feel unsettled and have mixed feelings for a very long time (I think).

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 01:31:14 AM
I wonder if the water meter guy will get the reward money????

IMO, by all rights, it ought to be fully his.


Yes, it should be his. If fate brought on his "urge" right where and when he stepped in those woods, then fate intended him to have it. MOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 12, 2008, 01:31:39 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html

Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues in Caylee Anthony Case
Thursday, December 11, 2008

The plastic bag and duct tape reportedly found with the remains of a child's body in Orlando, Fla., could help tie the unidentified skeleton to missing toddler Caylee Anthony, a forensic pathologist tells FOXNews.com.

The remains, found Thursday by a utility worker less than half a mile from Caylee's home, have yet to be identified, but investigators will be searching the scene for "a treasure trove of forensic evidence," FOX News contributor Michael Baden said.

Click here for photos.

Pathologists should be able to identify the body quickly from dental records, Baden said, and the plastic and duct tape could provide additional vital clues, including fingerprints. They could also provide clues to how the child died, and to who dumped the body.

"The beauty of duct tape — no matter rain, snow, sleet — that fingerprint will stay there," Baden said, adding that if someone used their teeth to rip it, it could yield DNA evidence too.

"Right now, they would be looking at all the contents of the plastic bag and they would be looking at the plastic bag itself," Baden said. "The fingerprints on the outside often get dissolved away by weather, but the inside of the plastic bag, the fingerprints would be there."

Two-year-old Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 16. Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, has been charged with first-degree murder of her daughter, child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about her disappearance.

Evidence found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire showed a decomposing body had been kept there. Strands of Caylee's hair were found, as were traces of chloroform.

"One important thing that I’ve hoped they’ve done already is take an air sample from the bag because they found chloroform in the vehicle and the cause of death still has to be determined," Baden said.

Finding chloroform could poke holes in the prosecution's first-degree murder case, if this is Caylee's body, he said.

"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.

If dental records cannot be used to identify the body, DNA evidence will be used to identify the skeletal remains. The remains will also be examined for signs of trauma.

"If there are fractures to the skeleton, then that goes again to first degree -- intentional suffering on the part of the baby," Baden said. "They can tell the baby suffered."



"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.

It is high time this is considered potential death/murder of a child. How disgusting to drug a child to party and seek your own gratification. Accidental my arse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 01:36:32 AM
From what the reports are now, I can't see an accidental death either.

1. Accidents don't require duct tape over a baby's mouth. (I've heard conflicting reports on the duct tape)

2. Accidents don't inspire dancing. Accomplishments do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 12, 2008, 01:42:39 AM
From what the reports are now, I can't see an accidental death either.

1. Accidents don't require duct tape over a baby's mouth. (I've heard conflicting reports on the duct tape)

2. Accidents don't inspire dancing. Accomplishments do.

CBB...i agree with your 1.and 2. and probably your 3+ when you come up with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Shell on December 12, 2008, 01:43:34 AM

Night, night. Sweet dreams. Cya tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ISpy on December 12, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
This is just a thought, but  I was just wondering if maybe when the officers searched the area if they found something like uhhhh, that little block thing that George was talking about thatyou use to put under the tires of vehicles when you want to change there tires.....Im thinking that when casey threw the bag in the woods, maybe she also threw whatever else was in the trunk that decomp might have leaked on out in the woods also and we know that those were supposeingly in her trunk  and I have never heard that they were there when the trunk was searched and I never heard them mentioned again,  George said that they had several pairs of them and so maybe thats what the LE was looking for in the shed,  to see if they matched up with the ones they found>>>>>>just wondering

HH- Good post!  You have me wondering now if maybe there were 2 gas cans found near the body?   Hhhhmmmm...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PJ on December 12, 2008, 02:01:54 AM
Good Night all Wonderful Monkeys.  Sleep Peacefully tonight if you can.  I need to get a couple hours of sleep. 

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ISpy on December 12, 2008, 02:18:29 AM
Wondering what in the world I'm going to tell my child in the coming days???  Even this afternoon, she was busy making more "Missing: Caylee Anthony" posters for our neighborhood.  Although we've discussed in children's terms that Caylee may be playing with Jesus, I can't bring myself to explain exactly what that means...we're going to leave it at that.  And that is the truth too-Caylee is snuggled up on God's lap and He's just beaming at her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:22:26 AM
What exactly is phsychological watch?  How is it different than suicide watch?

Honestly, the only difference I am aware of is that a psych watch would be where a psych doc does an assessment, looking for signs of increasing depression, panic attacks, mental health distress........... which 'could' then lapse into suicidal ideation.  After the psych doc completes an evaluation, staff at the jail will likely be keeping a close eye on Casey for any signs of mental health stress. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ISpy on December 12, 2008, 02:25:11 AM
I'm not surprised LE has taken hours at the Anthonys' home.  I'm sure they're getting tons of fingerprints, fibers (particularly Casey's bedroom), hairs (brushes/carpets/bathroom), and maybe clothing, bedding, and shoes (for prints).

If I were Cindy & George, I'd be at the jail screaming at Casey about now.  As for the media, I'd shut up and hole up in a hotel somewhere in disguise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ISpy on December 12, 2008, 02:36:02 AM
Well, as much as I want to stay, I've got to be up early to get ready for work (in about 4 hours).  I've been reading back pages for the last three hours. I'm going to do a quick check of the networks for any more news first though.  I'm a little too old to pull an all-nighter!  ::MonkeyWink::  I did a few weeks ago and boy did I pay for that!

PJ- Prayers sent your way. Take good care of yourself.  Psalm 23, Isaiah 41:10 & 13,
Psalm 91:9-16


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: IBE on December 12, 2008, 02:39:33 AM
Random thoughts:

IMO... the site is on a road to the elem. school. At first I thought the body would have had to be dropped at night because otherwise the road would be used... but it was summer... but did the school close mid-June or late in June? So a night drop off wouldn't be a factor if school was not in session.

Is there a gate in the backyard fence of the Anthony's that leads one into the dry area behind the house that leads to to woody area where the body was found?

Could parts of the fence be pushed open and the use of something on wheels, such as a wagon be used to go to the woody area?

I'd sure like to know if there were paths around the site? It looks as there are paths as a short cut from the school through the woody area to the sandy area behind the Anthony's.

She could have dropped the body off after weeks in the car and dropped it there if school was out. Guess they didn't have summer school or 4H.

Could a hand/finger position be put over the Anthony's home to have a direction on it like she told Lee about parts of a finger and the southern part of the area> or something like that when she was first in jail and talking to him in code?

Maybe Casey didn't do this and some else who knew Casey/Caylee did it.

OH heck... why do we have such evil in the world/

Thank you for telling me the Lindenburg baby was found this way too. Maybe someone could email that to the OC Water Co and have someone there tell the man who found the body today. Maybe it would help him feel better.

I hope he is informed of PSTD and looking out for it or has help so not to get it.

God Bless, you all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 02:41:45 AM
Hi Monkeys,
I just got here, and have 140 posts to read to catch up.  Can i ask a suggestion?  What about a thread of its own of "daily updates" which is no discussion, but just the days events in a nutshell, so to speak.  Then, those of us who dont get online at the same time, can read that first, then join in the discussion threads.  Whaddya reckon would that work?  Like, just a brief summary of any updates that have happened.  I hope thats not rude to suggest. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: IBE on December 12, 2008, 02:43:50 AM
Maybe scissors were used to cut the duct tape and are a special crafts/scrapbook kind or maybe there's dog hair on the tape or even Casey's hair or bite mark.

IMO if George had anything to do with getting rid of a body he would have it more away and harder, if ever to find based on his experience in law enforcement where you hear about those things.

Am only 80 pages behind, so Good Morning for I might be here when you all wake up.


Title: thereby
Post by: islandmonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:07:48 AM
[quote5 author=Mtnmom link=topic=4240.msg578127#msg578127 date=1229062901]
This might be a bit gruesome but I know caylee wore her hair in a pony tail. Is it possible they couduve found in the bag her ponytail? i keep wondering why they think the skull is female.
[/quote]I am almost certain that her scalp was still attached tgo the skull~I remember a case where a missing Colorado hiker/photographer and they foung her hair IIRC about 10 yrs later in almost perfect condition, that was also allow for the duct tape to still be intact, and xthey seem to be certain that this skeleton was a girl-well at that age it would be next to impossible to determine via pubic bone, so to me I am certain that's LE knows it was a girl and 99% certain ti IS Caylee because of her hair........JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 03:13:09 AM
OK, my apologies if this has already been brought up, (Im still reading posts), but when Cindy claimed those Fusion pics were a promotion, and that Casey was actually working (more or less said stick that up ya clackers, see casey did have a job and was only at fusion for work, not partying).  I wonder if fusion could confirm or deny those party pics were in fact Casey posing for a promotions photo.  I dont believe it for a second, and wouldnt be hard to disprove that lie she made on LK.  I do know there were other pics, eg 4th July flag wrapped around the skanks self  ::MonkeyNoNo::  But, this is a pretty solid statement she made, and if the nightclub denies it, that would actually go well in convincing the jury she is a lier, just like her sociopath daughter.  I just cannot fathom her lying, it is not going to do her any good, let alone her sociopathic daughter.  They just want to bleed money out of this, they think they are celebrities FFS  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 03:13:41 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

What's so strange about feeding the dogs for your boyfriend's parents who are out of town? Dogs have to be fed twice a day. The Ants were out of town--of course someone's going to be feeding the dogs, and it makes sense, since Lee lives close, for him or Mallory to be doing it.

I think if Lee wanted to move evidence he'd do it himself, not add yet another person to the list of people who might be able to tattle to LE about it.


Title: Re: thereby
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 03:24:29 AM
[quote5 author=Mtnmom link=topic=4240.msg578127#msg578127 date=1229062901]
This might be a bit gruesome but I know caylee wore her hair in a pony tail. Is it possible they couduve found in the bag her ponytail? i keep wondering why they think the skull is female.
I am almost certain that her scalp was still attached tgo the skull~I remember a case where a missing Colorado hiker/photographer and they foung her hair IIRC about 10 yrs later in almost perfect condition, that was also allow for the duct tape to still be intact, and xthey seem to be certain that this skeleton was a girl-well at that age it would be next to impossible to determine via pubic bone, so to me I am certain that's LE knows it was a girl and 99% certain ti IS Caylee because of her hair........JMO
[/quote]

sheesh, Ive missed something here.  A skull was found?  OK,  Im gonna have to read up and catch up.  You will see me online, but I will be reading to catch up.  Not ignoring anyone  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: ddex on December 12, 2008, 03:25:48 AM
just got home from work, planning to watch nc...but i did hear decapatation {rumor} and what about the duct tape...facts PLEASE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 03:40:56 AM
I have been really disturbed all day by Mallory showing up at the house right when everything was going down....I don't really buy the whole "feeding the dogs" thing....that struck me as very strange....but then again what hasn't been strange about this case?

I found it odd too.  Good thing LE was right there to stop her.

Supposedly the neighbors said she had been coming about that same time daily to feed the dogs.  However, what's to say Mallory didn't get a call or something from the Anthony's today, ( or was alerted by someone else)  and more would be going on then dog feeding.  jmho  It looks like LE got to the house pdq after the report about the child's body being found.  (even before they were 100% sure it was Caylee)

I think the Ants already disposed of all the evidence they think could incriminate them. I doubt that they knew about the body being found that early today, as well. And if they, or Lee, thought of something that needed moving, I would think they'd reason the fewer people knowing about it, the better, and they'd have Lee do it, not Mallory. I think it really was a coincidence.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 04:20:01 AM
Hi Monkeys,
I just got here, and have 140 posts to read to catch up.  Can i ask a suggestion?  What about a thread of its own of "daily updates" which is no discussion, but just the days events in a nutshell, so to speak.  Then, those of us who dont get online at the same time, can read that first, then join in the discussion threads.  Whaddya reckon would that work?  Like, just a brief summary of any updates that have happened.  I hope thats not rude to suggest. 

Oh, Im really sorry, I just found the "Breaking News" thread on this board.  I just always come to the discussion threads, excuse me for that, Im kinda new here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on December 12, 2008, 04:45:51 AM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.

Chris should have taken that call and maybe record it.Casey may have been calling to tell him if LE talks to you,please don't mention you thought you saw me jogging.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on December 12, 2008, 04:51:32 AM
We are going to be hearing all sorts of rumors now and of course the defense talkers are going to be saying things that will make us all angry.  But they get paid to give another view, and they did the same thing with Scott Peterson and others who were found guilty.

The fact that Casey was so upset after being told that a body was found near the home and where it was found, indicates to me that she knew it was Caylee.  After all, she did not react that way when LP thought he had found some bones in the river.

Her reaction is proof that she put Caylee there and has known all along that Caylee was dead.  She had just come to believe the body would not be found.
If the body is Caylee then I might think that Casey wanted her to be found,looks like she didn't try to hide her too well.......unless someone else moved Caylee's body to that spot to be found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: KCJackie on December 12, 2008, 04:55:41 AM
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who saw KC jogging down Chickasaw, but when he texted her, she denied it?  What was the date?  Thanks

Chris Stutz .. something like that.

This information obtained through police conversations with Chris Stutz could now be considered crucial to the case:
On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said no and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested.

Chris should have taken that call and maybe record it.Casey may have been calling to tell him if LE talks to you,please don't mention you thought you saw me jogging.

I checked this out a couple of weeks ago, and IIRC she was at Tony's apartment during the time Chris thought she was jogging.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 05:38:50 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.Gotta go back to read and catch up.Be back in a little bit.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 05:42:04 AM
This (below) is something I wrote to Caylee earlier tonight. Then I went to watch DVR of Nancy - and of course they played the nursing home video and the words of Please Don't take my sunshine away - are all the more haunting tonight.  Precious child, had her sunshine taken away in the sunshine state, by the person who should have been singing to her child: "You'll never know dear, how much I love you."  So Caylee, know America Sings it to you tonight. 

Little Caylee,
It now appears your tiny little vessel you used on earth has been found. However, you already know that the soul - the spirit doesn't die. You can trust now, little blessing. You are in the hands of the highest being - God. You now have freedom to continue your journey. Know that your journey was NOT in vain. You have made a huge difference in the lives of so many, including me. You life has shown me the best and the worst of what the world has to offer. A lesson I learned, because of you. I will never ever de-validate all that your tiny little presence gave me and so many others. Everyday for 6 months, I have prayed that your vessel would be found, laid in a precious pink silk lined coffin; and given the dignity your precious soul deserves. I will always mourn that your purpose here on earth was so tragic, but little one - YOU MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!! YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN BY ME AND KNOW THIS: THE TEARS OF LOVE TODAY FOR YOU WERE ONLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF THE AMOUNT OF LOVE PEOPLE FEEL FOR YOU AND YOU WILL GET IN THE ARMS OF HEAVEN.


Sleepless, heartbroken and relieved all at the same time..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 05:56:09 AM
Woke up early this morning and was reading the orlando sentinel:

The Anthonys have held out hope that the girl was still alive, and they took the news "very hard," said Brad Conway, an Orlando criminal attorney who said he was recently retained to represent the couple.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee1208dec12,0,5126873.story?page=2

"I didnt know the Anthony's have a new attorney...???"

Sorry if this has already been mentioned...trying to catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 06:13:22 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html
Nancy Grace Transcript


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scarrlett on December 12, 2008, 06:15:34 AM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.
If a panic attack is anything like anxiety, I know it must suck galore. I wish that upon nobody. Except Casey!

You monkeys might think me harsh but why the heck should lier girl Casey get medication for anxiety and or panic????? I would think that this is the first emotion she has shown as her gig is up and coming to a close and she knows she is caught and going to spend the rest of her life in the slammer where she belongs. And again she is not and I repeat NOT stressed about Caylee being found. She is only stressed as it pertains to her!!

I am sure many ladies here have had panic attacks. I had my first when I was pregnant and 26. I was in a grocery store in the sugar isle. Had to leave my cart behind and the journey to my car was frightening...I had no idea what was happening to me!!! I made it though and lived to tell the tale. No drugs were needed and like Always1 says it passes. I have had several more in the following years and as they are never pleasant they do not "take your life away".

Sorry for babbling but she should of suffered the pain just like the pain she has forced upon so many. She should have anxiety and panic people....ah, monkeys, She killed her child and when she shows the first real sigh of emotion they drug her!! Ridiculous.......Now she will probably see the meds make you feel good and want more! BTW..How much did that cost the tax payers???? A private room with a private Dr. UGGgggggg


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 06:17:01 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18253901/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 06:22:22 AM
Good Morning Monkeys! Here is some coffee for all the tired monkeys, including me!

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Have about 20 pages to catch up on plus all the latest news. Anything new since about 10pm last night? Gotta go get some "real" coffee, brb.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scarrlett on December 12, 2008, 06:39:58 AM
funkeymonkey - there's an article two or three pages back about the meter reader with a statement from the water company.  I think he was just a guy who had to empty his bladder and fortunately he found Caylee.

I wondered if maybe he was doing more than pee???? Most guys I know would not have to wander deep into the thicket to pee. Me thinks it was #2...HeeHee

Is Mallory Lee Ex-girlfriend?? I mean who could blame her? This family is wacko and, After the nasty accusations Casey has made about her father and brother to 2 separate individuals about supposed abuse. She told Jesse this AND Tony L. Two separate people from different circles. How many more did she tell this to for attention!? She is a pig and she is going away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 06:47:51 AM
I cant keep up, Im still reading the posts, Im gonna ditch the posts I havent read, and join in with the thread.  Is that OK?  Cos I like to be in a discussion thread. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 06:51:05 AM
I cant keep up, Im still reading the posts, Im gonna ditch the posts I havent read, and join in with the thread.  Is that OK?  Cos I like to be in a discussion thread. 

Good Morning Monkeys!

Lucinda,

Shhh, don't tell anyone, I do the same thing too!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 06:55:03 AM
Evening Monkeys
Im so sad, i called into work, even tho i am broke.
Im so happy she is found, but so sad,i hurt for that poor baby.

I think George will cave in and accept this , not sure about Cindy tho.

Does it bother anyone else that Tim Miller keeps coming on now saying, i was right to make people wait to search here and so on.Hes on NG now tootin his horn.Hes a good man,but he said she was unfindable and an ass about LP searching.
It just bothers me.Im grumpy tho

It doesn't bother me that he says that, because that is what he said back then. At the time I remember being disappointed thinking why not try to search anyway? But in hindsight, it seems he made the right decision for the right reason. I am glad he did not try searching for her where something could have happened to the remains.
KC had to know that she would be found eventually. I always thought that she would never admit to it, she figured let them (LE) find out for themselves. Otherwise she wasn't saying anything! I don't think she would admit it to CA & GA no matter what. I only hope and pray now that she knows her gig is up, she doesn't continue with the lies and denials. She has to do the right thing now, there is no reason to lie anymore. I think after so much time went by, she actually thought she might get away with it. As long as CA & GA believed Caylee was still alive, she had no reason to admit to anything. But, this is no longer the case. I hope CA & GA are able to do the right thing too, and give up on the Nanny story or saying KC's friends were involved somehow. They need to tell KC to fess up now, tell them what happened to little Caylee. She deserves the truth!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scarrlett on December 12, 2008, 06:59:28 AM
Good Night all Wonderful Monkeys.  Sleep Peacefully tonight if you can.  I need to get a couple hours of sleep. 

PJ (Paula) :flower:

I don't know how to put wonderful pics up yet but I want you to know I am thinking of you and sending positive thoughts and prayers to you, PJ.

It's always good to be the first operation of the day!! The Drs. are fresh and all the stuff is nice and new, and you'll be the first one home!!  ::MonkeyDance:: We will see you this afternoon girl!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
I also wanted to say I was bothered by LE saying she was unrecoverable (I think that is what they told Tim, that is why he said that too). I just don't understand how they could say that, and I've never heard that said before about a missing person. If they said "it is unlikely she will be found" is one thing, but they said unrecoverable and called off the search. I am not surprised that KC didn't go far to dispose of her. She was probably too scared to go too far with a dead body in the car, especially with the gas gauge problem. She did not know what to do that is why she drove around for many days, trying to figure what to do. That was probably a convenient spot, no houses around that area (even though homes were not too far)that stretch of road was just woods on both sides. She didn't want to or couldn't bring her too far into the woods. I think she wanted to get it done as quick as possible before someone drove by and saw her. It's just so sad, she didn't deserve to be discarded like trash.

God Bless you little Caylee! You're with the Angels now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SweetMorgan on December 12, 2008, 07:08:40 AM
Good Morning all Monkeys.   Thank you all for the information shared yesterday as I, for one, really appreciate it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scarrlett on December 12, 2008, 07:09:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.Gotta go back to read and catch up.Be back in a little bit.  ::MonkeyCool::

I know what you mean..Things move fast here. I have to leave and when I get back there will be 1,000000000000000 pages to catch up on.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Formerflgirl...Love that pup. He needs a touch of Brandi. She has the "touch" as they say!

Lucinda..You jump right in...you got the leg for it... ::MonkeyWink:: I would have to quit working to keep up here!

Have some of that good coffee for me monkeys...I shall return


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 07:19:08 AM
Nothing makes me more furious than the fact that Casey is being given sedatives for her panic attacks.  If you go to a hospital emergency room for a panic attack, you will NOT be given sedatives because staff will assume you are a drug seeker.  Casey is already suspected of drugging Caylee so she could go party.  I didn't realize that Orange County corrections resembled Club Meb more than it does a jail!

On a side note, yesterday I moved my laptop to show hubby some live footage.  Well, my old power adaptor on my MAC shot up in flames and sparks! I had to pull out my raggedy old blackberry and scroll my life away yesterday! Luckily I borrowed one from a friend so I'm back on.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2008, 07:20:09 AM
So when are we thinking this trial will happen?  March or Aprilish?  No rush in my book...just wondering

If this proves to be Caylee (imo it is), it will delay the trial. Perhaps by Mar/Apr 2009. Unless she spews (which would be just more lies) and/or cops a deal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 07:25:18 AM
I cant keep up, Im still reading the posts, Im gonna ditch the posts I havent read, and join in with the thread.  Is that OK?  Cos I like to be in a discussion thread. 

Same here. Good morning!!

The first thing I want to say is that Greta was off her nut last night. If her head hadn't been up Palin's you-know-what the last few months, she wouldn't have questioned LP as to "who is Richard Grund??" or "why are you going to Orlando??"  She would have automatically known... because she would have been "in the loop". I just wanted to smack her around last night.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 07:36:17 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 07:39:37 AM
I also just read on WKMG's news site that pesticide tanks were removed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 07:39:38 AM
Clint Van Sandt on Today now...says don't know if duct tape is an artifact or not, but could be alot of forensic value in duct tape. 
Dan Abrams saying they will now match previous evidence with evidence from body.  If evidence shows aggravating factors, death penalty
will be reconsidered.  Possibility exists that LE may throw evidence out to media to see if KC reacts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 07:41:35 AM
Morning Monkeys!

So does anyone wonder what LE was carring in this bag?

I was wondering if it was a picture from the wall or something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary on December 12, 2008, 07:42:51 AM
God bless Caylee: KC, I hope your thinking of all those years your going to be
spending in jail. I hope this does not wind up like the preachers wife, if so there
will be a outcry like they have never heard before.

Since we have never read any statement from LP yet, I'm sure he mentioned
KC pacing infront of motel, I hope there is video but I doubt it, maybe KC was
a regular there. The clerk may be a wittness also and can say if knew her.

I think Caylee was already dead at that time. KC did to her what Cindy did to her.
When Caylee saw her GM trying to strangle KC, she must have been terrified,
if she kept crying and screaming in the car and KC couldn't shut her up, then KC
strangled her. I hope her hymoid??? bone is still there. But this is only my opinion.

God bless that worker that had a call for mother nature.

KC should get life with no parole and not a day less.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 07:43:48 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.

Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 07:44:15 AM
I also just read on WKMG's news site that pesticide tanks were removed.
<snipped>
CSI Removes Bags, Boxes, Vacuum Cleaners From Anthony Home
Missing Caylee Last Seen In Mid-June

POSTED: 6:36 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 7:12 am EST December 12, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Crime scene detectives late Thursday night removed bags and boxes of evidence from the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents, hours after the remains of a child were discovered in a wooded area less than half a mile from the house.

Caylee was last seen in mid-June but was not reported missing until a month later by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony. Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder 

charges in Caylee's disappearance.


Authorities obtained a search warrant for George and Cindy Anthony's Hopespring Drive home in east Orange County, and investigators were seen removing seven large paper bags and four boxes of evidence. They also seized four vacuum cleaners and two pesticide tanks.

Wow they are really taking everything..I wonder if the A's had a vacuum specifically for their cars?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 07:45:37 AM
Ok... what's the defense going to say? They will say that someone indeed did kidnap Caylee and framed Casey. The grandparents and Casey have been building up the reasonable doubt since she was arrested because this trial will depend on the jury. Unfortunately all the evidence points to Casey, the pings and the location where the remains were found pinpoint her butt right there.

I like how the psychologist on CNN last night said they a killer will hide a body in a place they feel familiar with. And that neighborhood and school are Casey's stomping ground. Maybe she even lost her virginity in those woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 07:47:15 AM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 07:48:24 AM
  seven large paper bags and four boxes of evidence. They also seized four vacuum cleaners and two pesticide tanks.

 
The pesticide tanks could have held a number of things. But would the vac bags still have evidence 7 months later?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 07:48:32 AM
I cant keep up, Im still reading the posts, Im gonna ditch the posts I havent read, and join in with the thread.  Is that OK?  Cos I like to be in a discussion thread. 

Same here. Good morning!!

The first thing I want to say is that Greta was off her nut last night. If her head hadn't been up Palin's you-know-what the last few months, she wouldn't have questioned LP as to "who is Richard Grund??" or "why are you going to Orlando??"  She would have automatically known... because she would have been "in the loop". I just wanted to smack her around last night.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I didn't see Greta last night. I don't see where she has a right to speak to LP that way. I'm not an LP fan by any means, but he was involved in the case, even though he invoved himself. I believe he truly just wanted to find her and lay her to rest just like everyone else did. He just had the means to actually go out there and do something. I could understand his wanting to go back to Orlando, and get closure for himself. Its no wonder many are not that fond of LP, I was not very fond of him myself. But I believe his intentions were good, he just happens to not be too shy of cameras. Just because Greta has a tv show, I don't think that she automatically gets put on a higher pedestal.  I'm not a NG fan either, but she did cover this case alot. I don't like her style any more than I like like LP's. I've yelled at the tv many times at both of them!

Anyway, good morning again to all the newly awakening monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 07:54:03 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
 
Greta's interview of LP was certainly very awkward to watch
Instead of dancing around the question of why she thought he was insinuating himself into the story, her time with him would have been better served either asking him some real questions or interviewing someone else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 07:55:12 AM
I like Padilla. He's sexy.
Greta seems to be high and mighty these days. I lost interest in her.

If something of value was found in the Anthony house it could have been matching clothing, chemicals that match the pesticide tanks, photo of Casey in the matching clothing...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 07:55:33 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.

Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

Good morning 3bsmom! Did you get your coffee? I have a bunch of fresh hot coffee mugs for the taking back on page 42, for any monkey that needs a little caffeine boost. They are still good and hot, ENJOY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 07:55:50 AM
  seven large paper bags and four boxes of evidence. They also seized four vacuum cleaners and two pesticide tanks.

 
The pesticide tanks could have held a number of things. But would the vac bags still have evidence 7 months later?

IDK if they would still have evidence, and the fact that LE took pesticide tanks is curious to me...

I want to know so bad what LE found at the A's house! I really wonder if they found anything with the luminol when they first when in and searched the house..

I really wonder if the crime happened at the house..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 07:56:25 AM
I also just read on WKMG's news site that pesticide tanks were removed.


I'll post us a link.  ::MonkeyCool::
http://www.local6.com/news/18262363/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 07:56:47 AM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...

I always had an idea that George and Cindy played a bigger role in this.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 07:58:51 AM
  seven large paper bags and four boxes of evidence. They also seized four vacuum cleaners and two pesticide tanks.

 
The pesticide tanks could have held a number of things. But would the vac bags still have evidence 7 months later?

They looked like shop vacs.  My husband has several and there no "bags" to discard.  I think it is just a compartment to empty out.  It could still have evidence after 7 months.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 07:59:51 AM
Could the pesticide tanks have contained Chloroform? Hmmm.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:01:21 AM
Sherriff Beary "We know that there's some clues that came out of the remains found yesterday that  and thats why we've kinda linked it back to the house at thats why we did everything proper and got a search warrant and secured the premises and searched into the wee hours this morning."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/28192036#28192036

Video from Today show this morning..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:01:27 AM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...

I always had an idea that George and Cindy played a bigger role in this.

Lisa
Oh me too!!! It's obvious because they are protesting so loudly.
Even the old switcheroo under the overpass was suspicious and Cindy made light of it.
At least George was honest to the cops about the decomposition smell. He tried. And he's just been sitting behing Cindy rubbing her shoulders lately.

I'm still curious who the baby daddy is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:02:48 AM
Could the pesticide tanks have contained Chloroform? Hmmm.

Lisa

Wonder what George used exactly in his lawn care upkeep...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:02:49 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.

Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

Good morning 3bsmom! Did you get your coffee? I have a bunch of fresh hot coffee mugs for the taking back on page 42, for any monkey that needs a little caffeine boost. They are still good and hot, ENJOY!

Hey QuietMonkey!  Just got back from page 42 - mmmm, good coffee - thanks!!   ::MonkeyDance::

I so agree with you about LP and NG.  They can both totally annoy me, but I really think their hearts are in the right places.  They just both have different ways of doing thing (and saying things) than most people.  But I truly think that if they had not helped keep this in the media the way they did, people would not have been so aware of their surroundings and Caylee might not have been found.  I wish that kind of attention could be given to all of the missing, so they could have closure, too.

I just heard that sheriff Beary said there was evidence found at the crime scene that made them want to search the A's home again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 08:03:02 AM
Good Morning Monkeys! Here is some coffee for all the tired monkeys, including me!

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Have about 20 pages to catch up on plus all the latest news. Anything new since about 10pm last night? Gotta go get some "real" coffee, brb.


Yummy.  ::MonkeyWink:: Thanks QuietMonkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:03:24 AM
Could the pesticide tanks have contained Chloroform? Hmmm.

Lisa
They had a warrent for that a long time ago, why now would they just pick those up?
I'm thinking that the tanks contain something that matches the remains found. Like maybe the baby was sprayed with something else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 08:04:04 AM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...

I always had an idea that George and Cindy played a bigger role in this.

Lisa
Oh me too!!! It's obvious because they are protesting so loudly.
Even the old switcheroo under the overpass was suspicious and Cindy made light of it.
At least George was honest to the cops about the decomposition smell. He tried. And he's just been sitting behing Cindy rubbing her shoulders lately.

I'm still curious who the baby daddy is.

So am I.  If he is still living, he would be considered the person to claim Caylee's remains.  I still think it is a shame she went through her short life not knowing her father.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: The Doc on December 12, 2008, 08:04:57 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 08:08:49 AM
Sherriff Beary "We know that there's some clues that came out of the remains found yesterday that  and thats why we've kinda linked it back to the house at thats why we did everything proper and got a search warrant and secured the premises and searched into the wee hours this morning."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/28192036#28192036

Video from Today show this morning..


Thanks Mistix5  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:10:21 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:10:48 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:12:36 AM
And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! 
Watch the movie Wanted. Nice scenes about panic attacks in it.

As far as Casey getting meds, she's a freaking drug addicted hoochie. Of course she's going to ask for meds. She's only worried about her well being and no one else.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:12:41 AM
Those 19.99 pesticide tanks are very popular here in Florida.
We use them for many things besides bugs, like half bleach and water to get rid of mold on the exterior of the house.. maybe the Scamthonys filled theirs with chloroform to spray the back of the car down???   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: The Doc on December 12, 2008, 08:12:46 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?
The 911 call came in at 9:32 yesterday morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:15:36 AM
JJ- around 9:30 am yesterday.  25 feet off the road, in the wooded area by the school.  Sounds to me like the same area Kio Marie might have discussed with LE... the area she suspected Casey would have put Caylee's body, because they spent a lot of time there growing up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 08:16:20 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!


You're a mean little Monken this morning.....and I hope the meds don't work either.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:16:20 AM
And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! 
Watch the movie Wanted. Nice scenes about panic attacks in it.

As far as Casey getting meds, she's a freaking drug addicted hoochie. Of course she's going to ask for meds. She's only worried about her well being and no one else.




I hate her!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:17:29 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?
The 911 call came in at 9:32 yesterday morning.
Thanks for that. So the Anthony's booked LK way before that.
But what about the Karpman drama triangle... where the damsel in distress flips roles with the villian and the hero. There is a constant flipping of roles and the Anthony's are perfect examples of this triangle.
George is the bad guy who is yelling in public, Cindy with the bat. Villians.
George is the confessing to the cops guy, hero.
George and Cindy are the grieving grandparents, damsels.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:17:31 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?

I would love to know! On myfoxorlando last night they said that what ever was found that LE knew right away it led to the house, so much so that the Lead Invesigators on the case rushed to the judge to get a search warrant even before they went to the scene....

Why would Casey strip Caylees clothes off her then leave something with the body that led right to the house??

All this time I really though Casey was trying to plan the perfect crime..But I wonder if she wanted to get caught at some point, only Cindy and George ended up covering for her left and right..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 08:18:06 AM
 on channel 13 i saw they took 1 laptop-- would this be the laptop they have already had before? or a new one? plus to vacuums and one wet and dry vac...they sure did take alot
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:18:19 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!


You're a mean little Monken this morning.....and I hope the meds don't work either.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:18:33 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!

Morning, Monken!

I think you are right about what happened on Greta.  She is just "out of the loop".  She is definitely not as emotionally involved as LP or us Monkeys!

On KC's panic attacks.  I can still remember as a kid, when I knew I had been caught doing something wrong, that feeling of panic I would get, knowing I was in trouble big-time.  Multiply that by a million, and that is probably how KC felt, knowing she was caught.  She never has grown up, so I can see her panicking.  Then again, she is such a liar and a fake, who knows?
I just am so glad she will be brought to justice!!!  Buh - bye, Casey!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:19:10 AM
OOPS I thought you said what did the utility guy find! Lack of sleep sorry..LOL ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:19:25 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?

HI jjay. I believe it was about 9:30am yesterday morning. I don't know that GA & CA were going back to Cali to do an interview, that doesn't make sense to fly back. Maybe they were going to do a satellite interview? Doesn't seem possible, or economical to fly back the next day. Either way, I can't imagine them even doing a satellite interview when they know their granddaughter has most likely been found just minutes away from their house. Especially knowing that LE is combing THEIR entire house for clues. They can't do an interview already on a tv show no less. I could maybe see an interview with a news outlet or giving a statement, but to go on a tv show already I don't understand that at all. Are they that crazy? Wonder what they will have to say now. I hope the reality has sunk in, they can't be in denial anymore. Wonder if they are involved in any way, before or after the fact? Guess we'll find out in the days/weeks to come. I hope not, I really do!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:20:21 AM
JJ- around 9:30 am yesterday.  25 feet off the road, in the wooded area by the school.  Sounds to me like the same area Kio Marie might have discussed with LE... the area she suspected Casey would have put Caylee's body, because they spent a lot of time there growing up.
25 feet off the road. But wasn't it behind houses, so Casey would have had to get there another way besides cutting through someone's yard? Or maybe she followed a path along the backyard lines? What is the walking route to get there?

I've always wondered how meter readers and utility workers took a pee. Now we know. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it was #2 and he had to explain to the searchers of the area to avoid... heh.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:22:07 AM
Those 19.99 pesticide tanks are very popular here in Florida.
We use them for many things besides bugs, like half bleach and water to get rid of mold on the exterior of the house.. maybe the Scamthonys filled theirs with chloroform to spray the back of the car down???   ::MonkeyEek::

Thanks for the info on the pesticide tanks we dont use those alot here...I can see the Casey spraying the back of her car down...I wonder who the one is who actually removed the trunk liner...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:22:14 AM

So am I.  If he is still living, he would be considered the person to claim Caylee's remains.  I still think it is a shame she went through her short life not knowing her father.

Lisa
That would be an interesting twist.
Unless the baby daddy is really George or Lee. But that was a LP twist. And the defense would use the motive as mental stress or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 08:22:53 AM
Im still reading, and behind, but LP did say about a body.  Just like to know how much of that comment was speculation (and Nancy grace didnt jump on it)  so, was the body discovered before that interview?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:23:26 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!

Morning, Monken!

I think you are right about what happened on Greta.  She is just "out of the loop".  She is definitely not as emotionally involved as LP or us Monkeys!

On KC's panic attacks.  I can still remember as a kid, when I knew I had been caught doing something wrong, that feeling of panic I would get, knowing I was in trouble big-time.  Multiply that by a million, and that is probably how KC felt, knowing she was caught.  She never has grown up, so I can see her panicking.  Then again, she is such a liar and a fake, who knows?
I just am so glad she will be brought to justice!!!  Buh - bye, Casey!!!


When I had panic attacks I couldn't breathe, at all! i swear your life flashes before your eyes  ::MonkeyShocked:: I had no clue what was happening or why!!!! i don't wish them on anyone , except Casey   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 08:23:34 AM
OOPS I thought you said what did the utility guy find! Lack of sleep sorry..LOL ::MonkeyWink::


  ::MonkeyHaHa:: My eyes,my eyes....I just saw I mispelled your name a few posts back.Sorry.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:24:08 AM
My thoughts on why Caylee had no clothes.

First off, Casey is a sick person. So the fact she removed the clothing, makes her IMO cold and heartless and cruel.

Second, Cindy stated that no clothes- no toys, no nothing - of Caylee's was missing. Thus making it more likely (at least to the family) that a Zanny may have existed. Why? Because Casey had told her that Zanny had everything she possibly needed for Caylee.  So Caylee could have conceivably been in an outfit that Zanny had purchased for her, while missing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 08:24:14 AM
I saw on W/S that Casey has a new defense attorney.  Linda Kenney Baden is her name and I can't find the article!  She is the wife of Dr. Baden!  Anyone know anything about her?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:24:37 AM
JJ- around 9:30 am yesterday.  25 feet off the road, in the wooded area by the school.  Sounds to me like the same area Kio Marie might have discussed with LE... the area she suspected Casey would have put Caylee's body, because they spent a lot of time there growing up.
25 feet off the road. But wasn't it behind houses, so Casey would have had to get there another way besides cutting through someone's yard? Or maybe she followed a path along the backyard lines? What is the walking route to get there?

I've always wondered how meter readers and utility workers took a pee. Now we know. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it was #2 and he had to explain to the searchers of the area to avoid... heh.

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I've always wondered how meter readers and utility workers took a pee. Now we know. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it was #2 and he had to explain to the searchers of the area to avoid... heh.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Ewwwwww!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:25:02 AM
All this time I really though Casey was trying to plan the perfect crime..But I wonder if she wanted to get caught at some point, only Cindy and George ended up covering for her left and right..
Just proves how dumb she really is. She thought of the short term but not the long term. I think she never thought it would get blown up so much and that the cops would just brush it under the carpet because they were so busy and she was so cute.
George knew better. And I agree, they started a cover up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:25:02 AM
Im still reading, and behind, but LP did say about a body.  Just like to know how much of that comment was speculation (and Nancy grace didnt jump on it)  so, was the body discovered before that interview?



IMO it was speculation. This seemed to be an accidental find... the poor guy simply stumbled across the bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:26:11 AM
JJ- around 9:30 am yesterday.  25 feet off the road, in the wooded area by the school.  Sounds to me like the same area Kio Marie might have discussed with LE... the area she suspected Casey would have put Caylee's body, because they spent a lot of time there growing up.
25 feet off the road. But wasn't it behind houses, so Casey would have had to get there another way besides cutting through someone's yard? Or maybe she followed a path along the backyard lines? What is the walking route to get there?

I've always wondered how meter readers and utility workers took a pee. Now we know. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it was #2 and he had to explain to the searchers of the area to avoid... heh.

LOL jj!  Can you imagine, for years to come, his "claim to fame" is "I had to take a pee (or a dump)"?  Please don't think my humor is making light of this...it's just that how she was found is a little different.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:27:01 AM
I saw on W/S that Casey has a new defense attorney.  Linda Kenney Baden is her name and I can't find the article!  She is the wife of Dr. Baden!  Anyone know anything about her?

Lisa

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Say what?

Morning monkeys! I'm still shocked form yesterday. In a daze. So, what is new since Nancy Grace last evening?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:28:44 AM


When I had panic attacks I couldn't breathe, at all! i swear your life flashes before your eyes  ::MonkeyShocked:: I had no clue what was happening or why!!!! i don't wish them on anyone , except Casey   ::MonkeyTongue::


They sound afwul!  Sorry you've gone through that.  Yes, KC is the only one I would wish those on, too!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:29:01 AM
Im still reading, and behind, but LP did say about a body.  Just like to know how much of that comment was speculation (and Nancy grace didnt jump on it)  so, was the body discovered before that interview?



IMO it was speculation. This seemed to be an accidental find... the poor guy simply stumbled across the bag.
LP pinpointed Lee Vista Blvd and the pings which was the exact time she disposed of the body. He was right on. I posted Econlockhatchee Trail which is parallel from his description. So he knew the area, it was just a matter of time before the remains surfaced.
Casey put the body there, probably in a shallow grave and hurricane Fay soaked the area and put it underwater. Then when the water receded it washed away the top soil and revealed the bag. Some guy took a pee and yay, Caylee was found. Just like Lacy Peterson washed up in perfect time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 08:29:41 AM
ty anothermonkey for answering me, Im trying to catch up, wow this is big news.  It has to be caylee, who else could it be? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:29:52 AM
All this time I really though Casey was trying to plan the perfect crime..But I wonder if she wanted to get caught at some point, only Cindy and George ended up covering for her left and right..
Just proves how dumb she really is. She thought of the short term but not the long term. I think she never thought it would get blown up so much and that the cops would just brush it under the carpet because they were so busy and she was so cute.
George knew better. And I agree, they started a cover up.

IMO she thought LE would buy her BS just like her parents always have. She never thought it would go this far, thus her carelessness. She had plenty of time to tell where the body was, to tell the truth and at least give some closure. but she did not. She will pay dearly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: scnative on December 12, 2008, 08:29:57 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Just heard from Geraldo that he has heard LE Is looking into someone else that has been in or around this area. I'm going to rewind. Be back shortly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:30:07 AM
My thoughts on why Caylee had no clothes.

First off, Casey is a sick person. So the fact she removed the clothing, makes her IMO cold and heartless and cruel.

Second, Cindy stated that no clothes- no toys, no nothing - of Caylee's was missing. Thus making it more likely (at least to the family) that a Zanny may have existed. Why? Because Casey had told her that Zanny had everything she possibly needed for Caylee.  So Caylee could have conceivably been in an outfit that Zanny had purchased for her, while missing.

If she put her out there with no clothes on, that is just plain sick. Is it possible the clothes "came off" as the body decomposed? Maybe it just wasn't on the body (I hate to say that). Unless she possibly died with no clothes on, as in while taking a bath? Possibly. I could see KC not bothering to put clothes on her if she had already died. For some reason I could see her doing that. IDK? Guess we will find out, but LE apparently found items with her to immediately go to the A's house!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary on December 12, 2008, 08:30:16 AM
I wonder if any beads from KC's room were found in the plastic bag along with the
remains. I know LP is annoying at times but I like him. I'm sure that everything he
has said is in a statement to LE. You haven't seen his name yet but I'm sure he's a
wittness. Also I don't think Cindy will ever see the inside of the courtroom. She would be a disaster as a wittness and would disrupt the courtroom if she was just
seated in the room. They will leave her on the list and never call her. Baez can't call
her as she is a prosecution wittness. She can't come in the courtroom until she is
called. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:31:12 AM
A couple of things..
I think LP was just tossing theories or situations out there like we do to see if anything would stick to the wall
Casey dumping Caylee naked in a garbage bag was a very depersonalizing act.. the mind detaches the actual person rendering Caylee to a thing
If they took a wet dry vac i guarantee it was George or Spindy who cleaned out the back of Casey's car.. accessory after the fact
I hope if that is true that LE has the cahonies to charge them and stop with grandparent sympathy kid gloves cr*p...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:31:26 AM
Anyone have a link to NeJame video? I'm about 40 pages behind!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:31:58 AM
Has there been any reaction from Cindy or George yet??????????
I found it curious that they were in LA, far far away from the crime scene when it all went down. And they made plans to go there again tonight. That's just so weird to me.
When exactly did the utility guy find the bag?

HI jjay. I believe it was about 9:30am yesterday morning. I don't know that GA & CA were going back to Cali to do an interview, that doesn't make sense to fly back. Maybe they were going to do a satellite interview? Doesn't seem possible, or economical to fly back the next day. Either way, I can't imagine them even doing a satellite interview when they know their granddaughter has most likely been found just minutes away from their house. Especially knowing that LE is combing THEIR entire house for clues. They can't do an interview already on a tv show no less. I could maybe see an interview with a news outlet or giving a statement, but to go on a tv show already I don't understand that at all. Are they that crazy? Wonder what they will have to say now. I hope the reality has sunk in, they can't be in denial anymore. Wonder if they are involved in any way, before or after the fact? Guess we'll find out in the days/weeks to come. I hope not, I really do!
They aren't allowed back in their house... so maybe they just sought refuge somewhere else. Again the damsel in distress, feel sorry for me attitude from them. They are ridiculous.
I agree, it's weird to do interviews when they should be grieving.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:32:38 AM
JJ- around 9:30 am yesterday.  25 feet off the road, in the wooded area by the school.  Sounds to me like the same area Kio Marie might have discussed with LE... the area she suspected Casey would have put Caylee's body, because they spent a lot of time there growing up.
25 feet off the road. But wasn't it behind houses, so Casey would have had to get there another way besides cutting through someone's yard? Or maybe she followed a path along the backyard lines? What is the walking route to get there?

I've always wondered how meter readers and utility workers took a pee. Now we know. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it was #2 and he had to explain to the searchers of the area to avoid... heh.



It was a ways behind the houses if you look at the satellite map. Surburban is a road they use to get to those subdivisions. It is like a cut-through. Has areas that are wooded & at the time she dumped Caylee's body it was waist deep in water. Casey has driven that road many many times & knew it well. Seems logical she felt comfortable putting her there. She just picked a secluded section, walked a few feet out & chunked the bag! The meter reader just happened to pick the same place to relieve himself, Thank GOD!! I think she was checking the spot when her friend Chris saw her jogging that day. She probably checked on it many times before her arrest, to make sure no one could see it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 12, 2008, 08:33:56 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,
I see by the bags under every monkey's eyes, ya;ll have been here all night.
I would share my coffee, but alas, my coffee icon has been misplaced.
Now, who is this new atty for casey??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:34:09 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:34:33 AM
All this time I really though Casey was trying to plan the perfect crime..But I wonder if she wanted to get caught at some point, only Cindy and George ended up covering for her left and right..
Just proves how dumb she really is. She thought of the short term but not the long term. I think she never thought it would get blown up so much and that the cops would just brush it under the carpet because they were so busy and she was so cute.
George knew better. And I agree, they started a cover up.

IMO she thought LE would buy her BS just like her parents always have. She never thought it would go this far, thus her carelessness. She had plenty of time to tell where the body was, to tell the truth and at least give some closure. but she did not. She will pay dearly.
Yep. Most criminals are mentally ill and really dumb.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:35:55 AM
Forgive if re-post

Bags of evidence removed from Anthony home
http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html#- (http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html#-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:37:50 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,
I see by the bags under every monkey's eyes, ya;ll have been here all night.
I would share my coffee, but alas, my coffee icon has been misplaced.
Now, who is this new atty for casey??
Linda K Baden is Dr Micheal Baden's wife a a criminal defense atty who was co counsel at Phil Spector's first trial..
She wasn't anything special. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 08:38:32 AM
Just listening to channel 13 audio live

and they did comment that something found at the site infact linked it directly to the anthony home

They did also say that the anthonys are now allowed to return to their home today . They said they got everything they needed from the home overnight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:39:55 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:40:37 AM
It was a ways behind the houses if you look at the satellite map. Surburban is a road they use to get to those subdivisions. It is like a cut-through. Has areas that are wooded & at the time she dumped Caylee's body it was waist deep in water. Casey has driven that road many many times & knew it well. Seems logical she felt comfortable putting her there. She just picked a secluded section, walked a few feet out & chunked the bag! The meter reader just happened to pick the same place to relieve himself, Thank GOD!! I think she was checking the spot when her friend Chris saw her jogging that day. She probably checked on it many times before her arrest, to make sure no one could see it!
Thanks for the info.
So it was a quick dump of the body and she left the area. Kinda of like Scott Peterson. And she returned to make sure it wasn't disturbed or washed up in the following days. Close enough for her to drive by daily if she was free, yet in an area she felt no one would venture.
Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 08:40:55 AM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.

Sorry if this seems harsh.....but Casey does not deserve any medicine for her anxity! Let her feel the worst she ever has...she deserves it!! That and so much more!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 08:41:05 AM
How dare work get in my way today?   ::MonkeyTongue::

Woke up this morning thinking "duct tape is a guy thing".

I will read back as much as I can and join in later! 

Good morning, Monkeys!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:41:34 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Duct tape for one:: Did every one see Baden do the demonstration with the tape last night? He ripped a piece off with his mouth, said you can't use gloves when you use this tape, too difficult! So I hope LE finds her fingerprints & her BIG ASS HORSE TEETH PRINTS all over that tape! WooHoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: Then she can't say Zannie did it!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:41:57 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....
Good theory, but I still think we give Crazy way too much credit for thinking.. IMO she is a lazy simple party idiot


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 08:42:05 AM
Im still reading, and behind, but LP did say about a body.  Just like to know how much of that comment was speculation (and Nancy grace didnt jump on it)  so, was the body discovered before that interview?



IMO it was speculation. This seemed to be an accidental find... the poor guy simply stumbled across the bag.
LP pinpointed Lee Vista Blvd and the pings which was the exact time she disposed of the body. He was right on. I posted Econlockhatchee Trail which is parallel from his description. So he knew the area, it was just a matter of time before the remains surfaced.
Casey put the body there, probably in a shallow grave and hurricane Fay soaked the area and put it underwater. Then when the water receded it washed away the top soil and revealed the bag. Some guy took a pee and yay, Caylee was found. Just like Lacy Peterson washed up in perfect time.


Thank you JJ, yes, it is really uncanny, I hope it is Caylee.  I hope she can be rest in peace.  Same as Laci, and Conner, just in time, the good Lord answered the nations prayers.  She can be laid to rest, and have people stop wondering if she is still alive on earth.  She deserves a funeral. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:43:12 AM
It was a ways behind the houses if you look at the satellite map. Surburban is a road they use to get to those subdivisions. It is like a cut-through. Has areas that are wooded & at the time she dumped Caylee's body it was waist deep in water. Casey has driven that road many many times & knew it well. Seems logical she felt comfortable putting her there. She just picked a secluded section, walked a few feet out & chunked the bag! The meter reader just happened to pick the same place to relieve himself, Thank GOD!! I think she was checking the spot when her friend Chris saw her jogging that day. She probably checked on it many times before her arrest, to make sure no one could see it!
Thanks for the info.
So it was a quick dump of the body and she left the area. Kinda of like Scott Peterson. And she returned to make sure it wasn't disturbed or washed up in the following days. Close enough for her to drive by daily if she was free, yet in an area she felt no one would venture.
Interesting.

Yep, exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2008, 08:43:20 AM
CAM 1  AT HOUSE
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

CAM 2 CRIME SCENE near woods or at house across street??

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:43:49 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:45:25 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....
Good theory, but I still think we give Crazy way too much credit for thinking.. IMO she is a lazy simple party idiot

I tend to agree with you, flamom. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:45:37 AM
CAM 1  AT HOUSE
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

CAM 2 CRIME SCENE near woods or at house across street??

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


THANKS, NUTT!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 08:46:25 AM
CAM 1  AT HOUSE
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

CAM 2 CRIME SCENE near woods or at house across street??

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Thanks, Nut44x4!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 08:46:48 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.

That's a good thought. It could have been something to do with her hair. I've wondered too if it was all about the trash bags and duct tape that might still be in the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:47:14 AM
Apparently they did take a spot remover...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:47:42 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....

I think that's a possibility too misitx.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:48:01 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....

You know, I'm not sure what if any sexual abuse Casey endured. I will say it is possible, but in the same breath that it may be another of her lies and bids for attention. In my mind, the act was committed by Casey alone and she either chloroformed her and/or left her in the car/trunk while she did the nasty with Tony OR she snapped and choked or struck the child causing her death after the big blowup with Cindy. IMO she may have been thinking about ways to rid herself of this "burden" for months, but I'm not sure Caylee's death on or about June 16 was actually her plan.

All in all, whether Casey was a victim of abuse or not, I am disgusted by her. If she didn't want to care for Caylee, many others would have loved that child and raised her as their own. How dare she treat her like trash.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:48:23 AM
Thanks Nut   ::MonkeyWink::
I hope I dont get locked out of here today.
I spent hours trying to peek in here yesterday it was sooo busy
I wonder if on days when there is heavy traffic they can limit the amount of unregistered access to keep the members in the cage...
All of my major shopping, shipping and cleaning are done and I am sooo relieved.
I can spend more time here with my monkey friends following events as they unfold  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:49:34 AM
CAM 1  AT HOUSE
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

CAM 2 CRIME SCENE near woods or at house across street??

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks Nut


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blonde on December 12, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
Does anyone remember Casey had a  girl friend who might had lost a child.
 They had a secret spot at a school that we thought at the start may have been where she put Caylee is this the spot?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:51:34 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Duct tape for one:: Did every one see Baden do the demonstration with the tape last night? He ripped a piece off with his mouth, said you can't use gloves when you use this tape, too difficult! So I hope LE finds her fingerprints & her BIG ASS HORSE TEETH PRINTS all over that tape! WooHoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: Then she can't say Zannie did it!!!

see, that's why I love you Monken.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:51:45 AM
A couple of things..
I think LP was just tossing theories or situations out there like we do to see if anything would stick to the wall
Casey dumping Caylee naked in a garbage bag was a very depersonalizing act.. the mind detaches the actual person rendering Caylee to a thing
If they took a wet dry vac i guarantee it was George or Spindy who cleaned out the back of Casey's car.. accessory after the fact
I hope if that is true that LE has the cahonies to charge them and stop with grandparent sympathy kid gloves cr*p...


He's good at that.
If George cleaned up after he smelled the dead body then he disturbed evidence. If he told Cindy to clean... then?
Cindy washed the pants after she called 911 to report it "smells like a dead body". So I totally think Cindy and George will be indicted.
And if you notice, the press likes to interview criminals prior to trial so that when they say something incriminating it's on tape and in the public and the broadcaster can take credit. Diane Sawyer caught someone red handed like that I think when they used the name in past tense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 08:51:53 AM
Does anyone remember Casey had a  girl friend who might had lost a child.
 They had a secret spot at a school that we thought at the start may have been where she put Caylee is this the spot?


IIRC Kiomarie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 08:52:36 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.

That's a good thought. It could have been something to do with her hair. I've wondered too if it was all about the trash bags and duct tape that might still be in the Anthony home.

That's possible about the duct tape and trash bags. If CA & GA truly did not know anything and believed Caylee was stolen, they may not have known they had evidence in their garage. Even if they suspected, they couldn't have known what was potentially evidence. I do believe they definately suspected something when cleaning the car and washing the jeans. I believe they suspected something when doing that, even though they did not want to admit it. As long as Caylee had not been found, they could believe she was still alive out there. I honestly think KC was not going to tell them or admit a thing to them. Not as long as she didn't have to. Now things are different though. I hope she speaks up now??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PookyBear on December 12, 2008, 08:52:47 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.

That's a good thought. It could have been something to do with her hair. I've wondered too if it was all about the trash bags and duct tape that might still be in the Anthony home.
Good morning Monkeys.  I would think that if they got the vacuum cleaners they found some fibers in the bag from transferring the body.  They may be trying to find forensic evidence from on parts of the vacuum cleaners to match to the bag.  Not sure about anything else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 12, 2008, 08:53:53 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,
I see by the bags under every monkey's eyes, ya;ll have been here all night.
I would share my coffee, but alas, my coffee icon has been misplaced.
Now, who is this new atty for casey??
Linda K Baden is Dr Micheal Baden's wife a a criminal defense atty who was co counsel at Phil Spector's first trial..
She wasn't anything special. IMO

oic, hm, does that mean she will take first chair in defense>>> is she a death penalty lawyer?   Yikes, I would not want to be caseys atty.  I think they are going to bring back that death penalty for casey.....

and, if casey did put caylee there, naked, well, I have no mercy anymore for her.

Also, I too suffer with huge panic attacks.  As I am allergic, ( a native thing) I do not take any meds , I just deal with it, and stay away from what makes me panic, which could be anything.. I want casey to have to just deal with this panic too. I do not see how giving her a zanax, in jail,  a pill that maybe had something to do with caylees demise, will make life easier for her. She knew all along what she had done. I say, let the panic begin, as well as nightmares.  It is time she is forced to face what horrible thing she has done.

Forgive me Creator for having these ill feelings for another, but, I think it is time this society takes back our world, and make parents be accountable for their actions towards the children they create.
I am sorry too Kio, caseys childhood friend, who told le in  the beginning where casey would put caylee. Kio wanted to adopt Caylee, but cin put a kibosh on that too, ultimatly leading to caylees death. A decision I wonder if cin regrets now...mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: theboyzmom on December 12, 2008, 08:54:12 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 

Thats what I have been thinking to..

Casey has told people that Lee tried to touch her, I wonder how much of "her abuse" played into her staging Caylee to look like she was abused..Because its to early for me to think about it not being staged....

You know, I'm not sure what if any sexual abuse Casey endured. I will say it is possible, but in the same breath that it may be another of her lies and bids for attention. In my mind, the act was committed by Casey alone and she either chloroformed her and/or left her in the car/trunk while she did the nasty with Tony OR she snapped and choked or struck the child causing her death after the big blowup with Cindy. IMO she may have been thinking about ways to rid herself of this "burden" for months, but I'm not sure Caylee's death on or about June 16 was actually her plan.

All in all, whether Casey was a victim of abuse or not, I am disgusted by her. If she didn't want to care for Caylee, many others would have loved that child and raised her as their own. How dare she treat her like trash.   

I really do not care what abuse Casey endured. I know lots of people that have endured all sorts of abuse and do not murder. As for the dumping of the body - I think that it was a quick easy spot for a dump - and a place she was comfortable with.

I find the fact that CA and GA are going back on LK to be just disgusting. I would never go on TV to exploit my grandkids. I hope they are miserable for a long time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 12, 2008, 08:54:35 AM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.
   Caylee must have had a panic attack when her mother killed her.  I hope KC has a Panic attack that last for the rest of her evil life.  Breathing into a paper bag helps --poor Caylee was breathin into a plastic garbage bag ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PookyBear on December 12, 2008, 08:55:05 AM
Does anyone remember Casey had a  girl friend who might had lost a child.
 They had a secret spot at a school that we thought at the start may have been where she put Caylee is this the spot?

Blonde -- Not sure about the girlfriend who lost the child but a friend from school, Kio, called the police and took them to the area behind the school because she was convinced this was a place she would put Caylee because it was a "secret" place they used to go to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 08:55:30 AM
You know, I'm not sure what if any sexual abuse Casey endured. I will say it is possible, but in the same breath that it may be another of her lies and bids for attention. In my mind, the act was committed by Casey alone and she either chloroformed her and/or left her in the car/trunk while she did the nasty with Tony OR she snapped and choked or struck the child causing her death after the big blowup with Cindy. IMO she may have been thinking about ways to rid herself of this "burden" for months, but I'm not sure Caylee's death on or about June 16 was actually her plan.

All in all, whether Casey was a victim of abuse or not, I am disgusted by her. If she didn't want to care for Caylee, many others would have loved that child and raised her as their own. How dare she treat her like trash.   
I'm almost positive that Cindy forced Casey to keep the baby when she told her she was pregnant. What are the abortion laws in Florida, did she need to have parental concent? Cindy being a nurse might have noticed morning sickness? Either way, Cindy was overbearing in insisting that this child come into the world while Casey didn't want to have a baby. That complicated by who the father is... would certainly make this all more complex.
So Casey is a victim of her mother and the baby daddy who apparently has abandoned her. As far as how far the incest went... that will come out just like the remains surfaced.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 08:56:20 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:56:31 AM
Does anyone remember Casey had a  girl friend who might had lost a child.
 They had a secret spot at a school that we thought at the start may have been where she put Caylee is this the spot?


Yes. Blonde, wasn't that Kiomarie!? In her interview with LE she talked alot about that spot & said she thought that's where Casey would go. That area was searched as well as possible but unfortunately some of it was under water until now. If the water hadn't receded in the last 2 weeks that meter reader wouldn't have seen it!! Divine Intervention is all I say!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
It's just a clearer look into Crazy's head because most children or family members killed by a relative tend to place a body with a favorite article and cover the face, taking great care with the body
Crazy duct taped her, placed her in a trash bag and dumped her..skank
It was a very depersonalized way to dispose of a loved one, especially her child.. makes me wonder how much of the horror Crazy may have blocked out..skank
Even Andrea Yates took her dead babies and placed them in the bed and covered them with sheets or blankets
I worked as a psych nurse for the second half of my career and these types of people are fascinating and usually follow certain patterns. Casey isn't insane but she is certainly swimming in pathology and directly tied to her mother with it. She is an amazing case study..skank


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Duct tape for one:: Did every one see Baden do the demonstration with the tape last night? He ripped a piece off with his mouth, said you can't use gloves when you use this tape, too difficult! So I hope LE finds her fingerprints & her BIG ASS HORSE TEETH PRINTS all over that tape! WooHoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: Then she can't say Zannie did it!!!

see, that's why I love you Monken.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I hate her!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 08:58:40 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.

Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

Good morning 3bsmom! Did you get your coffee? I have a bunch of fresh hot coffee mugs for the taking back on page 42, for any monkey that needs a little caffeine boost. They are still good and hot, ENJOY!
I just got to the office...I think I'll have a cup, Quiet Monkey.  Thanks for the brew!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PookyBear on December 12, 2008, 08:59:45 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's
Someone earlier posted a picture of evidence taken and wondered if it was a picture of some sort.  Wonder if the picture is one of a picture of Caylee wearing a piece of jewelry found in the bag or something like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blonde on December 12, 2008, 09:01:09 AM
Does anyone remember Casey had a  girl friend who might had lost a child.
 They had a secret spot at a school that we thought at the start may have been where she put Caylee is this the spot?


IIRC Kiomarie

Yes . She did bring to the secret spot in the park behind the school. ...
was this the school?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:01:38 AM

That's possible about the duct tape and trash bags. If CA & GA truly did not know anything and believed Caylee was stolen, they may not have known they had evidence in their garage. Even if they suspected, they couldn't have known what was potentially evidence. I do believe they definately suspected something when cleaning the car and washing the jeans. I believe they suspected something when doing that, even though they did not want to admit it. As long as Caylee had not been found, they could believe she was still alive out there. I honestly think KC was not going to tell them or admit a thing to them. Not as long as she didn't have to. Now things are different though. I hope she speaks up now??
Especially if they thought their daughter was being framed!!! If they suspected there was a nanny who might have used foul play then why would they destroy evidence??? They should have combed the car, trunk, house, computers, neighborhood for anything leading to evidence against Zanny. Instead they cleaned up after Casey!!!

They knew their daughter was guilty from the dead body smell and tried to cover up.
jmho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 09:02:41 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 
Maybe the no clothes was to not leave Case's own DNA/hair on the body but she was the mother so I don't think that would have been unusual however carpet fibers would have been and just to make quicker get rid of the clothes. JMO

Another thing could be to plant the clothes somewhere else far away from the area to throw searchers off.
It seems the Blanchard Park thing worked to do that so why not the clothes somewhere else? DId she drop enough hints to get Blanchard Park searched? I think so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 09:03:46 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's

Someone on one of those shows last night, I think NG, said it was very possible there could have still been some soft tissue. Being she was in a bag, and probably under water for a good amount of this time. Since the bag was most likely sealed very well (not enough to keep fluids from leaking out), it also helped preserve things too. Her hair could still very well have still been on her head, or even in the bag. Or even both, but they were pretty sure right away it's most likely her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:03:50 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Just heard from Geraldo that he has heard LE Is looking into someone else that has been in or around this area. I'm going to rewind. Be back shortly!

Anything new on this yet? ::MonkeyWink:: TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! 
Watch the movie Wanted. Nice scenes about panic attacks in it.

As far as Casey getting meds, she's a freaking drug addicted hoochie. Of course she's going to ask for meds. She's only worried about her well being and no one else.




I hate her!!!

Hey...don't anybody start picking on Monken...j/k...but, if I was going into a fight, I'd want Monken on my side...she'd psych out the other side!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Good Morning Monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:06:16 AM

That's possible about the duct tape and trash bags. If CA & GA truly did not know anything and believed Caylee was stolen, they may not have known they had evidence in their garage. Even if they suspected, they couldn't have known what was potentially evidence. I do believe they definately suspected something when cleaning the car and washing the jeans. I believe they suspected something when doing that, even though they did not want to admit it. As long as Caylee had not been found, they could believe she was still alive out there. I honestly think KC was not going to tell them or admit a thing to them. Not as long as she didn't have to. Now things are different though. I hope she speaks up now??
Especially if they thought their daughter was being framed!!! If they suspected there was a nanny who might have used foul play then why would they destroy evidence??? They should have combed the car, trunk, house, computers, neighborhood for anything leading to evidence against Zanny. Instead they cleaned up after Casey!!!

They knew their daughter was guilty from the dead body smell and tried to cover up.
jmho.


JJ I agree!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: GramaMonkey on December 12, 2008, 09:06:18 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.

That's a good thought. It could have been something to do with her hair. I've wondered too if it was all about the trash bags and duct tape that might still be in the Anthony home.

WHAT ABOUT THE CROSS???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 09:09:32 AM
Just in looking at the bags, vacuum cleaners, boxes, and everything else being taken from the Anthony home since last night, I can't help thinking that somehow the parents' involvement in this is even bigger than we think. I keep thinking of George, actually. I am very suspicious of him, although I don't want to be.

Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

Good morning 3bsmom! Did you get your coffee? I have a bunch of fresh hot coffee mugs for the taking back on page 42, for any monkey that needs a little caffeine boost. They are still good and hot, ENJOY!
I just got to the office...I think I'll have a cup, Quiet Monkey.  Thanks for the brew!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

No problem numbersgirl! Here's a few more for some newly arriving monkeys!

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This will help get us monkeys moving!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 09:10:41 AM
I started thinking

remember the tiffany ring cindy was so concerned about talking to casey in the jailhouse video....casey said she hadnt seen it in months..

perhaps it feel off when she dumped caylee....  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Cindy did seem to know it was missing...still say that JCP statement shows something! wish we knew


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:10:44 AM
And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! 
Watch the movie Wanted. Nice scenes about panic attacks in it.

As far as Casey getting meds, she's a freaking drug addicted hoochie. Of course she's going to ask for meds. She's only worried about her well being and no one else.




I hate her!!!

Hey...don't anybody start picking on Monken...j/k...but, if I was going into a fight, I'd want Monken on my side...she'd psych out the other side!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Good Morning Monkeys!!!

  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
ok, this is puzzling me -- what do you monkeys think they found with the body that made them go back to the Antohny home and in a hurry??? I'm sure y'all have been discussing it all night, but it won't hurt to bring it up again.  ::MonkeyCool::

Could have been jewelry she was wearing, something that was in her hair (bow, pony tail holder, or something like that. Can't see why KC would add something else in the bag. But I believe she knew Caylee would eventually be found, maybe subconciously wanted her to be found. Like I said before she was never going to admit to anything, or help LE find her in anyway. They had to find her themselves.

That's a good thought. It could have been something to do with her hair. I've wondered too if it was all about the trash bags and duct tape that might still be in the Anthony home.

WHAT ABOUT THE CROSS???

YEs what about this cross.....Cindy did not want to give LE the receipt from Penny's....IF Casey purchased two and left one with Caylee,then...

WHY would Cindy NOT want to hand over the receipt?If Cindy thought Caylee WAS kidnapped wouldnt she want to show LE the cross and the receipt so LE would have some thing to go on IF Caylee was ever found?

UNLESS Cindy KNEW Caylee was "buried" with it, and KNEW if could be linked back to Casey..

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 09:12:20 AM
Be back in a little while, the morning is melting away. Hope I don't get too far behind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
Anyone have a link to NeJame video? I'm about 40 pages behind!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Nejame
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=nejameinterview_121120080448&cat=CAC&title=Mark%20NeJame%20Speaks%20To%20News%2013


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 12, 2008, 09:14:40 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

Going back to catch up... (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/monkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: CasuallyCool on December 12, 2008, 09:15:50 AM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

Yeah I agree--she doesn't look pregnant at all--she's skinny and even with the baggy shirt on you'd think there'd be a bump but I'm not seeing it

Pregnant or not?

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/Mallory.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 12, 2008, 09:15:50 AM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 
good moring monkeys           You kill you daughter- accident they say-well  you should be upset and when you bury this baby you would want to wrap her in her favorite blanet-put the things that she loves with her.  not just put her in a garbage bag.  This was no accident-is it an accident if you give your child a loaded gun to play with and then the gun goes off.   DEATH PENALTY PERIOD let her spend the rest of her life wondering what it going to like when someone puts her in a plastic bag--George and Cindy go on Larry King tonight A DISGRACE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:16:03 AM
SeaSearcher.. Hope you have lotsa java   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 09:17:03 AM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....
I have them quite often, not fun at all. I'm sure they gave Casey some kind of medication, at least I would think they would have. Breathing into a paper bag works some.
If a panic attack is anything like anxiety, I know it must suck galore. I wish that upon nobody. Except Casey!

You monkeys might think me harsh but why the heck should lier girl Casey get medication for anxiety and or panic????? I would think that this is the first emotion she has shown as her gig is up and coming to a close and she knows she is caught and going to spend the rest of her life in the slammer where she belongs. And again she is not and I repeat NOT stressed about Caylee being found. She is only stressed as it pertains to her!!

I am sure many ladies here have had panic attacks. I had my first when I was pregnant and 26. I was in a grocery store in the sugar isle. Had to leave my cart behind and the journey to my car was frightening...I had no idea what was happening to me!!! I made it though and lived to tell the tale. No drugs were needed and like Always1 says it passes. I have had several more in the following years and as they are never pleasant they do not "take your life away".

Sorry for babbling but she should of suffered the pain just like the pain she has forced upon so many. She should have anxiety and panic people....ah, monkeys, She killed her child and when she shows the first real sigh of emotion they drug her!! Ridiculous.......Now she will probably see the meds make you feel good and want more! BTW..How much did that cost the tax payers???? A private room with a private Dr. UGGgggggg
Last night Geraldo said he was told by a source that Casey had to be sedated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 12, 2008, 09:17:18 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's

Someone on one of those shows last night, I think NG, said it was very possible there could have still been some soft tissue. Being she was in a bag, and probably under water for a good amount of this time. Since the bag was most likely sealed very well (not enough to keep fluids from leaking out), it also helped preserve things too. Her hair could still very well have still been on her head, or even in the bag. Or even both, but they were pretty sure right away it's most likely her.

I watched the new csi last night, they showed a man kill another man, then put him in a garbage bag, tie it with a plastic tie, then drag man in bag to a dry river bed. It then began to rain, and they showed how the bag would float up and down as the water rose and recended.
Then, they went inside the bag, to show the decomposition happening.
It was sort of gross, but interesting, especially after the way Caylee was found.
There was tissue left on the mans body, as well as hair.  They put the skeletin back together, and then they were able to even determine the how man died, by being choked around neck.
I think medical examiners will find a lot of evidence to share with us about Caylee too.
ANd dna is always shown being taken on csi, the perps use their mouth to tear tape.
mio




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: dejasade on December 12, 2008, 09:18:24 AM
Good Morning all!
Any word on how CASEY is doing at jail???  I'm sure she didn't sleep last night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 12, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!
 
I think we all know what happened with Greta & LP last night. Greta has not kept up with this case & LP has only been on NG. Greta didn't know who Richard Grund was & that LP has become friends with him. We knew that LP was coming to do some sort of service with Grund for Christmas & Greta had no clue what he was talking about; going back to Orlando. Neither of them were very forthcoming & I think LP look completely drained. I think yesterday took alot out of all of us that have been folowing this case.

And on the panic attacks; I've had panic attacks, too!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can tell you they first started while i was at work years ago & I truely thought I was going to die! It was absolutely horrible & I was taken to the ER. They were related to a thyroid disorder i didn't know I had at the time! I had several before meds started working!  ::MonkeyEek:: I think Casey is probably faking these attacks but on the slight chance that she's not:   ::MonkeyDance:: I hope the bitch continues to have them & the meds don't work!!!!!!!
  I hope they give her a plastic bag to breath into ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning, Monken!

I think you are right about what happened on Greta.  She is just "out of the loop".  She is definitely not as emotionally involved as LP or us Monkeys!

On KC's panic attacks.  I can still remember as a kid, when I knew I had been caught doing something wrong, that feeling of panic I would get, knowing I was in trouble big-time.  Multiply that by a million, and that is probably how KC felt, knowing she was caught.  She never has grown up, so I can see her panicking.  Then again, she is such a liar and a fake, who knows?
I just am so glad she will be brought to justice!!!  Buh - bye, Casey!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:19:39 AM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TxLady2 on December 12, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
I wonder if Cindy will blame it on the meter reader????


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-worker-caylee-anthony-remains-121108,0,6103027.story

Worker may have found remains by accident

The identity of the utility worker who discovered the remains now thought to be of Caylee Anthony has not been released.

Orange County Utilities spokesman Tim Armstrong declined to reveal the identity of the worker during an interview with WKMG-TV. Armstrong also declined to speculate on the worker's reaction to finding the remains, but he did say, "he's taking some time off."

Armstrong explained the worker -- a water meter reader for Orange County Utilities -- was on his regular work route reading water meters when he discovered the remains. The area were the remains were found are away from any residential areas with water meters, but Armstrong would not explain why the worker was in that area.

It may be because it was all just happen-stance the worker discovered the remains. WESH-TV reported the worker had gone into a wooded area to relieve himself before he discovered the child's body.

Armstrong said there was no reason to suspect his worker was involved in any way with the disappearance of Caylee Marie. "There are no concerns at this time," Armstrong said, adding that the worker has been interviewed for several hours by Orange County deputies after the find to get information from him.


I shared my experience trying to find water meters in wooded areas.....after the hurrikane Ike in texas most of the meters and taps we installed dissapeared...the contractor had to go back with a shovel to find those meters and taps (after a month and a half of hurricane Ike) ......it was really difficult and we had sketches to locate them but it was very difficult.....maybe she was trew there after tim cleared the area....? or if the body was always there it is a miracle that the meter reader found caylee's body



Hi Cecilita,

I would rather go with your choice of this being a Miracle.  I just must cling to the belief that it was Divine Guidance.  I'm saying extra Prayer for the meter worker each time I see him mentioned.  It has to be so difficult for him.  He will feel unsettled and have mixed feelings for a very long time (I think).

PJ (Paula) :flower:

He wasn't going into the woods to read a meter... he stopped along his route and walked into the woods to relieve himself. There would be no meter in that location. Call it divine intervention... God wanted little Caylee's remains to be found... and He used this guy as His messenger. I hope he gets the reward money... but this has to be difficult for him.
Where did this information come from that there was duct tape on the skull or whatever? Last reports I heard was that was not confirmed by LE. I know I heard NG discussing it last night, but I did not think that was a definite confirmation... just supposition.
I was pretty sick all day yesterday, and had to go to bed for a while... bad case of bronchitis... so I may have missed some important stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: pegster57 on December 12, 2008, 09:21:47 AM

WHAT ABOUT THE CROSS???
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That was my first thought, too. It had to be something so obvious they said "holy sh*t!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:22:21 AM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

I KNOW, OMG!! 7 bags, 4 boxes & 4 vacuum cleaners! They carted off half the damn house! Hope they left George a pair of shorts & his snazzy loafers   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:23:09 AM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

LOL I was thinking the same thing!! One was a small wet/dry spot vac, I believe...I bet George has a shop vac too..He was notorious for keeping those Cars clean... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:23:40 AM

WHAT ABOUT THE CROSS???

That was my first thought, too. It had to be something so obvious they said "holy sh*t!"
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I doubt that Skank left the cross on Caylee, the 'disposal" was way too depersonalized


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:25:15 AM
Casey's defense team grows


ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- A new player will join the defense team for Casey Anthony, a day after the remains of a small child were discovered within a quarter mile of the home of missing Caylee Marie Anthony's grandparents.

If Linda Kenney-Baden's name sounds familiar, you may recognize her as an author,  trial attorney and legal commentator who has been involved in other high-profile criminal cases.

She recently represented music producer Phil Spector in a murder trial and offered analysis during the controversy surrounding the death of super model Anna Nicole Smith.   Her husband is forensic expert Dr. Michael Baden of the HBO series Autopsy. 

Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com.

"I'm concerned about my client, period.  We are requesting to have access to this information," said Baez. "As it [evidence] is being tested, we would like our people present, especially if it's destructive in nature by the testing."

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:27:29 AM

WHAT ABOUT THE CROSS???

That was my first thought, too. It had to be something so obvious they said "holy sh*t!"
I doubt that Skank left the cross on Caylee, the 'disposal" was way too depersonalized
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Perhaps FormerFLGirl is right and "something" fell of Casey when she was "disposing" of Caylee...Only she didnt realize it til later...Or didnt care...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:28:27 AM
Monken, you are a funny monkey, you always make me laugh  ::MonkeyWink::
 can you imagine what the pillow or dinner talk is like in the Baden household??
Michael, you left some body fluids there
Don't worry Linda, there are no fibers or prints on the headboard.. ugh  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:29:11 AM
Updated 11 min ago on OS..

<<Snipped>>

A black, plastic garbage bag held the small skeleton - duct tape was wrapped around skull, a source told the Orlando Sentinel. Investigators also found other items inside the bag.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:30:50 AM
Maybe the Penney's reciept was for one on the vacs, like the wet dry vac to clean the deathmobile?? that would be very obvious..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:30:52 AM
Casey's defense team grows


ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- A new player will join the defense team for Casey Anthony, a day after the remains of a small child were discovered within a quarter mile of the home of missing Caylee Marie Anthony's grandparents.

If Linda Kenney-Baden's name sounds familiar, you may recognize her as an author,  trial attorney and legal commentator who has been involved in other high-profile criminal cases.

She recently represented music producer Phil Spector in a murder trial and offered analysis during the controversy surrounding the death of super model Anna Nicole Smith.   Her husband is forensic expert Dr. Michael Baden of the HBO series Autopsy. 

Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com.

"I'm concerned about my client, period.  We are requesting to have access to this information," said Baez. "As it [evidence] is being tested, we would like our people present, especially if it's destructive in nature by the testing."

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

WTF!!!??? Now I've heard everything! I was hoping that was just a rumor! Dr. Baden is my favorite. Their relationship better damn well be like Carville & Matalin, we can't have Dr. Baden on the other side!!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 09:32:32 AM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 09:32:35 AM
Hi Monkeys,
I just got here, and have 140 posts to read to catch up.  Can i ask a suggestion?  What about a thread of its own of "daily updates" which is no discussion, but just the days events in a nutshell, so to speak.  Then, those of us who dont get online at the same time, can read that first, then join in the discussion threads.  Whaddya reckon would that work?  Like, just a brief summary of any updates that have happened.  I hope thats not rude to suggest. 
I second that! ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:32:42 AM
Monken, you are a funny monkey, you always make me laugh  ::MonkeyWink::
 can you imagine what the pillow or dinner talk is like in the Baden household??
Michael, you left some body fluids there
Don't worry Linda, there are no fibers or prints on the headboard.. ugh  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 09:33:01 AM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

I KNOW, OMG!! 7 bags, 4 boxes & 4 vacuum cleaners! They carted off half the damn house! Hope they left George a pair of shorts & his snazzy loafers   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 09:34:24 AM
Updated 11 min ago on OS..

<<Snipped>>

A black, plastic garbage bag held the small skeleton - duct tape was wrapped around skull, a source told the Orlando Sentinel. Investigators also found other items inside the bag.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

Okay, if duct tape was wrapped, tightly, around Caylee's head that would explain why it stayed around the skull during decomposition.  Of course, this is just my opinion.  I don't even want to think about how this poor baby died.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  God damn you Casey!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 09:35:07 AM
I wonder if Cindy will blame it on the meter reader????


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-worker-caylee-anthony-remains-121108,0,6103027.story

Worker may have found remains by accident

The identity of the utility worker who discovered the remains now thought to be of Caylee Anthony has not been released.

Orange County Utilities spokesman Tim Armstrong declined to reveal the identity of the worker during an interview with WKMG-TV. Armstrong also declined to speculate on the worker's reaction to finding the remains, but he did say, "he's taking some time off."

Armstrong explained the worker -- a water meter reader for Orange County Utilities -- was on his regular work route reading water meters when he discovered the remains. The area were the remains were found are away from any residential areas with water meters, but Armstrong would not explain why the worker was in that area.

It may be because it was all just happen-stance the worker discovered the remains. WESH-TV reported the worker had gone into a wooded area to relieve himself before he discovered the child's body.

Armstrong said there was no reason to suspect his worker was involved in any way with the disappearance of Caylee Marie. "There are no concerns at this time," Armstrong said, adding that the worker has been interviewed for several hours by Orange County deputies after the find to get information from him.


I shared my experience trying to find water meters in wooded areas.....after the hurrikane Ike in texas most of the meters and taps we installed dissapeared...the contractor had to go back with a shovel to find those meters and taps (after a month and a half of hurricane Ike) ......it was really difficult and we had sketches to locate them but it was very difficult.....maybe she was trew there after tim cleared the area....? or if the body was always there it is a miracle that the meter reader found caylee's body



Hi Cecilita,

I would rather go with your choice of this being a Miracle.  I just must cling to the belief that it was Divine Guidance.  I'm saying extra Prayer for the meter worker each time I see him mentioned.  It has to be so difficult for him.  He will feel unsettled and have mixed feelings for a very long time (I think).

PJ (Paula) :flower:

He wasn't going into the woods to read a meter... he stopped along his route and walked into the woods to relieve himself. There would be no meter in that location. Call it divine intervention... God wanted little Caylee's remains to be found... and He used this guy as His messenger. I hope he gets the reward money... but this has to be difficult for him.
Where did this information come from that there was duct tape on the skull or whatever? Last reports I heard was that was not confirmed by LE. I know I heard NG discussing it last night, but I did not think that was a definite confirmation... just supposition.
I was pretty sick all day yesterday, and had to go to bed for a while... bad case of bronchitis... so I may have missed some important stuff.


I would call it Divine Intervention as well....God works in mysterious ways.

Cindy and George leave for the 1st time flying to CA.  Not home to further destroy more evidence when Caylee's remains are found.

I would say all the stars were aligned for that sweet angel to be found and laid to rest, with the respect and dignity she was deprived of from her own mother. God Bless You Caylee Marie!



Where I have gone,
I am not so small.
My soul is as wide
As the world is tall.
I have gone to answer
the bestest of calls
From the Great One
Who takes care of us all.
Wherever you look,
You will find me there…
In the heart of a rose,
In the heart of a prayer.
On butterflies wings,
On wings of my own
To you, I am gone
But I'm never alone….
I'm just over the moon.
I’m at peace,
I’m at home.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:35:17 AM

YEs what about this cross.....Cindy did not want to give LE the receipt from Penny's....IF Casey purchased two and left one with Caylee,then...

WHY would Cindy NOT want to hand over the receipt?If Cindy thought Caylee WAS kidnapped wouldnt she want to show LE the cross and the receipt so LE would have some thing to go on IF Caylee was ever found?

UNLESS Cindy KNEW Caylee was "buried" with it, and KNEW if could be linked back to Casey..

JMO
Exactly!!! I hope Cindy goes to jail too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 09:36:00 AM
Casey's defense team grows


ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- A new player will join the defense team for Casey Anthony, a day after the remains of a small child were discovered within a quarter mile of the home of missing Caylee Marie Anthony's grandparents.

If Linda Kenney-Baden's name sounds familiar, you may recognize her as an author,  trial attorney and legal commentator who has been involved in other high-profile criminal cases.

She recently represented music producer Phil Spector in a murder trial and offered analysis during the controversy surrounding the death of super model Anna Nicole Smith.   Her husband is forensic expert Dr. Michael Baden of the HBO series Autopsy. 

Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com.

"I'm concerned about my client, period.  We are requesting to have access to this information," said Baez. "As it [evidence] is being tested, we would like our people present, especially if it's destructive in nature by the testing."

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

I just keep thinking

How are all these people being paid?

Is there an anonymous backer?  Are there book/movie deals?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 09:37:14 AM
still playing catch up had to log off early yesterday Caught NG and greta last night

Not sure if this has been brought up

IIRC someone was saying that LE was sawing down a  tree at the scene does anyone know why? or if thats true?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: TxLady2 on December 12, 2008, 09:37:32 AM
Don't slam me for this, but as to Casey having to be sedated.... she has not been convicted yet, and by law they have to do whatever is necessary to keep her healthy until the trial... even if they don't believe she deserves it. If they had refused to give her the sedative, her defense attorney would be screaming to the media about "cruel and unusual punishment" and it would have caused a big uproar. It's a technicality... and I'm sure they had no choice.
I've heard of an inmate trying to commit suicide right before he is scheduled to be executed... they discover him, take him to the hospital... and then execute him a few days later. They cannot sanction an inmate doing harm to him/herself, BEFORE the state gets the chance to do it legally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:39:08 AM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol


I know, HH, I didn't get ANYTHING done yesterday! Hubby was pizzed at me all day as I was glued to this chair with 6 news windows open! He's at work today though!! Woohoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: i really do have to get some stuff done, I'll be in & out  ::MonkeyTongue::

By the way, my DH & I will be married 30 years in April, so he knows I don't listen to him!!!   ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: funkymonkey on December 12, 2008, 09:39:54 AM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)
Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........

Hi HigherHopes...I was just wondering if I did anything to offend you?  I am just a Grandma that has been following this case.  I don't post much but I read all of the posts and love this site.  I was just wondering why you answered my posts with "Uhh  no" each time and checking back you don't use this when replying to others?  If I asked a question that offended you, or if the question I asked was not asked in the correct manner or had already been asked...please accept my apologies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 09:40:11 AM
It probably took them hours just to go thru the gazillion bins in the garage.

Anyone know whats the significance of FBI also involved in the search of Anthony's home? They made mention of it this morning on court tv as "different".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:41:03 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
Updated 11 min ago on OS..

<<Snipped>>

A black, plastic garbage bag held the small skeleton - duct tape was wrapped around skull, a source told the Orlando Sentinel. Investigators also found other items inside the bag.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

Okay, if duct tape was wrapped, tightly, around Caylee's head that would explain why it stayed around the skull during decomposition.  Of course, this is just my opinion.  I don't even want to think about how this poor baby died.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  God damn you Casey!

Lisa

I really wonder what those "other items" might have been......

I wonder if there was a shower curtain or a set of sheets??

OH god if she did have duct tape around the skull and She left Caylee naked could she have wrapped her in sheets and possibly pillowcases, I know people keep saying Casey is lazy but what if she was trying to set it up to look like a S** crime...I cant even say the word right now....

Of course she could have been lazt and just grabbed the trash bag from the trash can and "disposed" of her with the garbage.....


SICK SICK SICK I HATE HER!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol


I know, HH, I didn't get ANYTHING done yesterday! Hubby was pizzed at me all day as I was glued to this chair with 6 news windows open! He's at work today though!! Woohoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: i really do have to get some stuff done, I'll be in & out  ::MonkeyTongue::

By the way, my DH & I will be married 30 years in April, so he knows I don't listen to him!!!   ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyTongue::
LOL  yea he knows by now Im sure......I just wish I could stay home and fish for some news about poor Caylee, anyway I do have to go and I will see everybody after I get home, I hope we get some news while Im away.....be good Monken, and if you cant well then,  say a few ugly words about casey for me too!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:43:53 AM
Don't slam me for this, but as to Casey having to be sedated.... she has not been convicted yet, and by law they have to do whatever is necessary to keep her healthy until the trial... even if they don't believe she deserves it. If they had refused to give her the sedative, her defense attorney would be screaming to the media about "cruel and unusual punishment" and it would have caused a big uproar. It's a technicality... and I'm sure they had no choice.
I've heard of an inmate trying to commit suicide right before he is scheduled to be executed... they discover him, take him to the hospital... and then execute him a few days later. They cannot sanction an inmate doing harm to him/herself, BEFORE the state gets the chance to do it legally.
Bingo. LE rocks.
She's the most selfish mental case ever. To put her needs before that of her daughter shows that she doesn't deserve to be a mom. She's not grieving and needs to be sedated, she's squirming about her destiny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 12, 2008, 09:45:46 AM
Don't slam me for this, but as to Casey having to be sedated.... she has not been convicted yet, and by law they have to do whatever is necessary to keep her healthy until the trial... even if they don't believe she deserves it. If they had refused to give her the sedative, her defense attorney would be screaming to the media about "cruel and unusual punishment" and it would have caused a big uproar. It's a technicality... and I'm sure they had no choice.
I've heard of an inmate trying to commit suicide right before he is scheduled to be executed... they discover him, take him to the hospital... and then execute him a few days later. They cannot sanction an inmate doing harm to him/herself, BEFORE the state gets the chance to do it legally.

Is Truth serum a sedative ???  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 09:45:56 AM
Good Morning all!
Any word on how CASEY is doing at jail???  I'm sure she didn't sleep last night!
No word yet on Casey.  I bet she was up all night thinking of new lies on how to get out of this one and what she's gonna say to her family now?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 09:46:03 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.

IDK Beary said on that TOday show interview he was told the worker poked the bag with a stick and out came the skull..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: higherhopes on December 12, 2008, 09:46:50 AM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)
Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........

Hi HigherHopes...I was just wondering if I did anything to offend you?  I am just a Grandma that has been following this case.  I don't post much but I read all of the posts and love this site.  I was just wondering why you answered my posts with "Uhh  no" each time and checking back you don't use this when replying to others?  If I asked a question that offended you, or if the question I asked was not asked in the correct manner or had already been asked...please accept my apologies.
Of course you didnt offend me .....Casey offends me....the Anthony;s offend me............but no , my fellow monkeys never offend me.........I love all Monkeys...................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 09:46:55 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.


The guy was scheduled to read meters in that area. He is an OC employee. The sheriff said he poked the bag with a stick when he saw it and the skull fell out. He did not touch it with his hands.
The poor guy had to relieve himself......you know human nature.....he is a hero in my eyes. He did exactly the right thing after seeing the skull.....he called 911.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 09:47:08 AM
Did hear that there is supposed to be a special court hearing today with regards to Casey? Does anyone have a link to such a story?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:47:59 AM
I really wonder what those "other items" might have been......

I wonder if there was a shower curtain or a set of sheets??

OH god if she did have duct tape around the skull and She left Caylee naked could she have wrapped her in sheets and possibly pillowcases, I know people keep saying Casey is lazy but what if she was trying to set it up to look like a S** crime...I cant even say the word right now....

Of course she could have been lazt and just grabbed the trash bag from the trash can and "disposed" of her with the garbage.....


SICK SICK SICK I HATE HER!!
IIRC the boyfriend said that the bag in the trunk contained food from the Anthony house. Which means Casey didn't go shop, she raided her parents fridg. Which means you are correct, Casey would have taken trash bags from her mom and dads house and used them. And CNN said last night that trash bags have certaining markings that can be dated and identified to exact matches.

The duct tape should be quite revealing as well as the actual bones and soft tissue left behind. If there is a cross with a receipt then the evidence is damning.

Too bad they removed the death penalty from Casey. I would like her to be on death row. Will she go to the State Pen if convicted? I hear they don't tolerate baby killers there.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:48:46 AM
Did hear that there is supposed to be a special court hearing today with regards to Casey? Does anyone have a link to such a story?
I heard it on FNC, maybe foxnew.com has it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: O4Bull on December 12, 2008, 09:49:28 AM
Just listening to channel 13 audio live

and they did comment that something found at the site infact linked it directly to the anthony home

They did also say that the anthonys are now allowed to return to their home today . They said they got everything they needed from the home overnight.
I hope they left some things too, like "bugs".  If they weren't there before, I sure hope they are now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flamom on December 12, 2008, 09:49:39 AM
Did hear that there is supposed to be a special court hearing today with regards to Casey? Does anyone have a link to such a story?
I heard it on FNC, maybe foxnew.com has it
PS, IIRC it will be at 11:30


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JOLfan on December 12, 2008, 09:49:40 AM

I watched the new csi last night, they showed a man kill another man, then put him in a garbage bag, tie it with a plastic tie, then drag man in bag to a dry river bed. It then began to rain, and they showed how the bag would float up and down as the water rose and recended.
Then, they went inside the bag, to show the decomposition happening.
It was sort of gross, but interesting, especially after the way Caylee was found.
There was tissue left on the mans body, as well as hair.  They put the skeletin back together, and then they were able to even determine the how man died, by being choked around neck.
I think medical examiners will find a lot of evidence to share with us about Caylee too.
ANd dna is always shown being taken on csi, the perps use their mouth to tear tape.
mio


I was blown away by the timing of this episode.  After watching the shows to catch up on the latest about Caylee...switching over to see the opening of this show was shocking.  My sister and I had to pause the show just to take in the fact that it was so similar to Caylee and what had happened yesterday.  Although, it was interesting to see that a bag containing a body could sit in the elements for 6 months and still be untouched.  This case is more crazy than any script!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 09:49:52 AM
Updated 11 min ago on OS..

<<Snipped>>

A black, plastic garbage bag held the small skeleton - duct tape was wrapped around skull, a source told the Orlando Sentinel. Investigators also found other items inside the bag.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

Okay, if duct tape was wrapped, tightly, around Caylee's head that would explain why it stayed around the skull during decomposition.  Of course, this is just my opinion.  I don't even want to think about how this poor baby died.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  God damn you Casey!

Lisa

Regarding the duck tape around skull I asked myself these questions.

The 1st officer on the scene knew right away it was human skull, I ask myself why.  They also immediately identified the skull as a girl (even though they later said that could not be determined), again I ask why.  They seemed to know right away this was Caylee, without checking missing person's reports, again I asked myself why. 

IMO the only way that duck tape could be over the mouth area is if there was soft tissue.  If bag was sealed with duck tape and skull fell out of bag, then the bag had to have hole(s), possible animal damage.  Animal stepping/pawing caused separation of skull from body?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:50:25 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.


The guy was scheduled to read meters in that area. He is an OC employee. The sheriff said he poked the bag with a stick when he saw it and the skull fell out. He did not touch it with his hands.
The poor guy had to relieve himself......you know human nature.....he is a hero in my eyes. He did exactly the right thing after seeing the skull.....he called 911.
Cool. Thanks. He probably will be messed up for awhile from this gruesome discovery.
"Hi 911, I just took a pee and found a skull" I can't imagine being in that position.
I'm still surprised that it was only 25 feet into the woods. Casey didn't even make any effort to dispose of Caylee very well. It was a dump and run then go party. What a shame.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 09:50:27 AM
Did hear that there is supposed to be a special court hearing today with regards to Casey? Does anyone have a link to such a story?

Emergency hearing by Baez to allow him or experts to be present for testing of remains. I'll look for the link. It's scheduled for 11:30am. I know that FOX35 is covering courthouse live this morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 09:50:39 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.



The utility worker was just in the right place at the right time! Like LP said last night; how many times would you just walk right past a garbage bag or trash in the woods. And I think; If you live in that area you would have had to have been visiting Mars not to know to look further into anything you come across in the woods! That guy probably thought: NO, IT CAN'T BE!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I don't think anyone would actually think they'd be the one to ever find her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 09:50:52 AM
Casey thought she could outwit, outplay, and outlast.  But in the end, God got the upper hand.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 09:51:57 AM
sorry thinking outloud again..


CROSS VS Tiffany ring

The FBI videos showing Cindy asking about the missing ring......

If they believed these to be private....then why not ask her about the cross purchase? Just seems so odd to me to ask about a Missing Ring while your granddaughter is missing and your daughter  is locked up.
Cindy went over everything and this seemed important enough to her to ask CASEY about which of course casey had no real answer to other than she didnt know where it was...seems odd.

It was a heart shaped ring if i remember right.... If it were a cross found LE would be able to verify it with the other since two are believe to have been bought also the JCP statement .....but in fact if it were the Tiffany (missing ring) that was found with or near the remains....Le just might want to run over the the anthonys house and find a Picture or two to verify it!

Le would have watched those  videos as well and this just might stick out as odd to them as it has to me.....

Just saying...for some reason I cant get past this Missing Tiffany ring



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 09:51:59 AM
I really wonder what those "other items" might have been......

I wonder if there was a shower curtain or a set of sheets??

OH god if she did have duct tape around the skull and She left Caylee naked could she have wrapped her in sheets and possibly pillowcases, I know people keep saying Casey is lazy but what if she was trying to set it up to look like a S** crime...I cant even say the word right now....

Of course she could have been lazt and just grabbed the trash bag from the trash can and "disposed" of her with the garbage.....


SICK SICK SICK I HATE HER!!
IIRC the boyfriend said that the bag in the trunk contained food from the Anthony house. Which means Casey didn't go shop, she raided her parents fridg. Which means you are correct, Casey would have taken trash bags from her mom and dads house and used them. And CNN said last night that trash bags have certaining markings that can be dated and identified to exact matches.

The duct tape should be quite revealing as well as the actual bones and soft tissue left behind. If there is a cross with a receipt then the evidence is damning.

Too bad they removed the death penalty from Casey. I would like her to be on death row. Will she go to the State Pen if convicted? I hear they don't tolerate baby killers there.


From what I heard is they now can put the Death Penalty back on since facts have changed.  I personally would rather her get life in prison.  She'd then have to deal with other inmates...death penalty easy way out IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 09:52:14 AM
Here you go Red,

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nicnic on December 12, 2008, 09:52:23 AM
Red-

"Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com."

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 09:53:15 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 09:53:56 AM
Did hear that there is supposed to be a special court hearing today with regards to Casey? Does anyone have a link to such a story?

Baez went to the Orange County Jail Thursday afternoon to be with his client. Later Thursday, he filed an emergency motion to ensure his involvement in the testing of the newly found remains. A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 11:30.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 09:54:06 AM
I really wonder what those "other items" might have been......

I wonder if there was a shower curtain or a set of sheets??

OH god if she did have duct tape around the skull and She left Caylee naked could she have wrapped her in sheets and possibly pillowcases, I know people keep saying Casey is lazy but what if she was trying to set it up to look like a S** crime...I cant even say the word right now....

Of course she could have been lazt and just grabbed the trash bag from the trash can and "disposed" of her with the garbage.....


SICK SICK SICK I HATE HER!!
IIRC the boyfriend said that the bag in the trunk contained food from the Anthony house. Which means Casey didn't go shop, she raided her parents fridg. Which means you are correct, Casey would have taken trash bags from her mom and dads house and used them. And CNN said last night that trash bags have certaining markings that can be dated and identified to exact matches.

The duct tape should be quite revealing as well as the actual bones and soft tissue left behind. If there is a cross with a receipt then the evidence is damning.

Too bad they removed the death penalty from Casey. I would like her to be on death row. Will she go to the State Pen if convicted? I hear they don't tolerate baby killers there.



But if she get LWOP, she will never be able to sleep and must watch her back at all times.  To me, that is better than the death penalty.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:54:41 AM
Ok, what about this. During the episode with the gas cans being returned. George sees maggots in the trunk, Caylees body is still in there (tucked in the shadows under stuff) and he sprays pesticide on to kill them. Pesticide contains an adherant so it doesn't wash off and kills the pests. I wonder if there was residue on the bag in the woods?
If that's the case then George would have had the chance to recover Caylees body then. That's why he made up the story that Casey cursed at him and stormed off.

speculating.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nicnic on December 12, 2008, 09:55:07 AM

I watched the new csi last night, they showed a man kill another man, then put him in a garbage bag, tie it with a plastic tie, then drag man in bag to a dry river bed. It then began to rain, and they showed how the bag would float up and down as the water rose and recended.
Then, they went inside the bag, to show the decomposition happening.
It was sort of gross, but interesting, especially after the way Caylee was found.
There was tissue left on the mans body, as well as hair.  They put the skeletin back together, and then they were able to even determine the how man died, by being choked around neck.
I think medical examiners will find a lot of evidence to share with us about Caylee too.
ANd dna is always shown being taken on csi, the perps use their mouth to tear tape.
mio


I was blown away by the timing of this episode.  After watching the shows to catch up on the latest about Caylee...switching over to see the opening of this show was shocking.  My sister and I had to pause the show just to take in the fact that it was so similar to Caylee and what had happened yesterday.  Although, it was interesting to see that a bag containing a body could sit in the elements for 6 months and still be untouched.  This case is more crazy than any script!!

X2!!! exactly what my hubs and I were thinking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: pegster57 on December 12, 2008, 09:55:28 AM
Morning Monkeys!

So does anyone wonder what LE was carring in this bag?

I was wondering if it was a picture from the wall or something?

Or a filter from the heat pump/central air unit?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 09:56:02 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 09:56:44 AM

The utility worker was just in the right place at the right time! Like LP said last night; how many times would you just walk right past a garbage bag or trash in the woods. And I think; If you live in that area you would have had to have been visiting Mars not to know to look further into anything you come across in the woods! That guy probably thought: NO, IT CAN'T BE!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I don't think anyone would actually think they'd be the one to ever find her!
I know, right! I hope he gets a reward. Hopefully the reward isn't controlled by the Anthonys who had no intention of ever giving a reward even if they offered.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: pegster57 on December 12, 2008, 09:58:16 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

My DH is a police Captain (I *made* him watch NG last night! LOLl!) and he said the same thing- that she panicked and got rid of the body hastily.
He also said everyone was jumping to too many conclusions, that none can be drawn till the evidence is analyzed. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JustMeT on December 12, 2008, 09:59:55 AM



You monkeys might think me harsh but why the heck should lier girl Casey get medication for anxiety and or panic????? I would think that this is the first emotion she has shown as her gig is up and coming to a close and she knows she is caught and going to spend the rest of her life in the slammer where she belongs. And again she is not and I repeat NOT stressed about Caylee being found. She is only stressed as it pertains to her!!

I am sure many ladies here have had panic attacks. I had my first when I was pregnant and 26. I was in a grocery store in the sugar isle. Had to leave my cart behind and the journey to my car was frightening...I had no idea what was happening to me!!! I made it though and lived to tell the tale. No drugs were needed and like Always1 says it passes. I have had several more in the following years and as they are never pleasant they do not "take your life away".

Sorry for babbling but she should of suffered the pain just like the pain she has forced upon so many. She should have anxiety and panic people....ah, monkeys, She killed her child and when she shows the first real sigh of emotion they drug her!! Ridiculous.......Now she will probably see the meds make you feel good and want more! BTW..How much did that cost the tax payers???? A private room with a private Dr. UGGgggggg

Hey ITA!! No meds for her. Make her suffer. She panicked because shes busted now. Gig is up!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Edward on December 12, 2008, 10:00:36 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

Like a Victim of Incest.. ?
Casey has been covering for George the whole time ?

I need another cup of coffee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?
LE isn't stupid. They took statements from George knowing full well that his story might be fabricated. They ask questions twice so the real criminals will hang themselves. Also the interviews with the media will come into play. The Anthony's should have kept their mouths shut.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 10:03:20 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

Like a Victim of Incest.. ?
Casey has been covering for George the whole time ?

I need another cup of coffee

Yep. Now that the walls are closing in on the Anthony's they will sing like canaries because obviously they can't keep quiet and be normal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 10:03:25 AM
Ok, what about this. During the episode with the gas cans being returned. George sees maggots in the trunk, Caylees body is still in there (tucked in the shadows under stuff) and he sprays pesticide on to kill them. Pesticide contains an adherant so it doesn't wash off and kills the pests. I wonder if there was residue on the bag in the woods?
If that's the case then George would have had the chance to recover Caylees body then. That's why he made up the story that Casey cursed at him and stormed off.

speculating.
interresting??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 10:04:34 AM
If there really was duct tape around the "mouth" then maybe the body was kept in the freezer, so could have been in almost perfect condition, but why would someone remove it now and place it in the woods????  For them to take vacum cleaners from the house, there must be dirt from the back yard, transferred to the trunk, transferred to the bag she was in????  Come on, some of you monkeys are brilliant, figure this out for me- kay????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 10:04:36 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!!

I keep thinking the same thing, rmcalo.  I think their involvement (also mostly GA) came after the fact - the clean up and cover up.  I keep getting the feeling that KC panicked that day that GA wanted to look in her car trunk and in desperation, put Caylee in those "woods".  She had driven around with her all those days trying to figure out what she should do.  After almost getting caught, she just "ditched" her there.  I am so glad our little angel has been found. 

My DH is a police Captain (I *made* him watch NG last night! LOLl!) and he said the same thing- that she panicked and got rid of the body hastily.
He also said everyone was jumping to too many conclusions, that none can be drawn till the evidence is analyzed. 
Ockham's razor
The principle states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lucinda on December 12, 2008, 10:04:54 AM
goodnight, I just want to love and hug you all for your passion to Caylee.  I am almost caught up, but missed a lot of posts cos of the fastness this thread is running.  God bless you all, caring, beautiful people.
Love lucinda 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mioyshi on December 12, 2008, 10:05:26 AM

I watched the new csi last night, they showed a man kill another man, then put him in a garbage bag, tie it with a plastic tie, then drag man in bag to a dry river bed. It then began to rain, and they showed how the bag would float up and down as the water rose and recended.
Then, they went inside the bag, to show the decomposition happening.
It was sort of gross, but interesting, especially after the way Caylee was found.
There was tissue left on the mans body, as well as hair.  They put the skeletin back together, and then they were able to even determine the how man died, by being choked around neck.
I think medical examiners will find a lot of evidence to share with us about Caylee too.
ANd dna is always shown being taken on csi, the perps use their mouth to tear tape.
mio


I was blown away by the timing of this episode.  After watching the shows to catch up on the latest about Caylee...switching over to see the opening of this show was shocking.  My sister and I had to pause the show just to take in the fact that it was so similar to Caylee and what had happened yesterday.  Although, it was interesting to see that a bag containing a body could sit in the elements for 6 months and still be untouched.  This case is more crazy than any script!!
t it very earily similar to what we had been reading all day about them finding caylee.
we sort of just looked at each other here, when we saw the opening scene.  it is a 2 parter btw, this is grissoms last show aparently...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 10:05:58 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?

As much as  I want to believe George, I just can't grasp that he could remember what Casey and Caylee were wearing 1 month after the fact....esp considering the 1st date he gave was June 9, and not June 16th. Caylee was not seen by anyone other than that family after June 15th. Maybe he does remember that same scenario of Casey and Caylee leaving together, but was June 9th, and NOT the 16th. I'm sorry but I can't remember what my hubby or kids wore 1 month ago. George didn't know that Caylee would disappear, and would have no reason to remember such details on that particular day.....or did he?   JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Stacey on December 12, 2008, 10:06:05 AM
Good morning to all monkeys and welcome newbies.

I have been thinking all night about Kio
It is bothering me that she told LE at the beginning where Casey would but Caylee and that is where she was at.
Have we seen this statement from Kio to the LE in a transcript
or is it a rumor
I'm just thinking out loud trying to figure it out in my head
Was Kio obsessed with Caylee

Monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:06:49 AM
I'm almost positive that Cindy forced Casey to keep the baby when she told her she was pregnant. What are the abortion laws in Florida, did she need to have parental concent? Cindy being a nurse might have noticed morning sickness? Either way, Cindy was overbearing in insisting that this child come into the world while Casey didn't want to have a baby. That complicated by who the father is... would certainly make this all more complex.
So Casey is a victim of her mother and the baby daddy who apparently has abandoned her. As far as how far the incest went... that will come out just like the remains surfaced.

Just got back ... She was over 18 right? So no consent was needed.

In the end, yes, Cindy and George made many bad decisions. But Casey's actions ultimately resulted in Caylee's death. Any of them who played a part in the crime or covering up for it needs to pay. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:06:55 AM
As far as the garbage bag. It's possible she was in a large industrial sized garbage bag (we usually have a box in the garage). It's possible they could still have the box in their garage, especially if it was large box like bought from Home Depot or somewhere. We only use those bags once in awhile, and have the box for many months. Anyway, that's just a guess of course. I know the regular size trash bags we use for our kitchen garbage are not that strong, but the industrial ones are very thick and strong. Also, I get annoyed with some of these news stations, they keep saying the remains were found at the nearby intersection, but they are way off! There is no woods where they keep showing. It's been almost 24 hrs, you'd think they would get the right location by now! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
Here you go Red,

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Thank you much!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 10:07:18 AM
Goodmorning Monkies!

Just pokin' my head in for a few bc very busy w/work.  I've been out of touch the last 48hrs and actually heard of the discovery on NG which I had DVR'd and was watching at 11:30 PM. 

I am overwhelmed with the emotion of finally having our wishes come true (hopefully) of Caylee finally receiving peace and a propery burial and the fact that this beautiful girl will never be able to live a long and happy life.  I am very solemn.

I just want to say thank you all for all of your hard work and dedication.  I have loved the meeting of the minds in the cage, yet not one of us has asked for a pat on the back or said "I told you so".  Very admirable. 

I will be trying to keep up w/you all, as NUMBERSGIRL can attest this is a very busy time.  I know this is the best place for up to date info.

Lovinlife


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
LP pinpointed Lee Vista Blvd and the pings which was the exact time she disposed of the body. He was right on. I posted Econlockhatchee Trail which is parallel from his description. So he knew the area, it was just a matter of time before the remains surfaced.
Casey put the body there, probably in a shallow grave and hurricane Fay soaked the area and put it underwater. Then when the water receded it washed away the top soil and revealed the bag. Some guy took a pee and yay, Caylee was found. Just like Lacy Peterson washed up in perfect time.
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Morning all Monkeys.  

Since I'm "ping" challenged, does this mean that KC was talking to someone on her cell at the place where she disposed of Caylee's body?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 10:07:57 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

I think she may have wanted to let him in and have him take care of it because as we see CA cant keep her composure I am still not 100% sure George played apart in it but I think Lee definatley knows something (maybe not a player in it) but not living in denial and keeping quiet maybe just scared some other deep dark secret may come out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 10:08:12 AM
Ok, what about this. During the episode with the gas cans being returned. George sees maggots in the trunk, Caylees body is still in there (tucked in the shadows under stuff) and he sprays pesticide on to kill them. Pesticide contains an adherant so it doesn't wash off and kills the pests. I wonder if there was residue on the bag in the woods?
If that's the case then George would have had the chance to recover Caylees body then. That's why he made up the story that Casey cursed at him and stormed off.

speculating.
interresting??? ::MonkeyConfused::
And that's when George went home and started making up the cover up. Maybe he even told Casey that she had to get rid of the stuff in the trunk because he knew.
And he had that little spaz that the body was not his granddaughter. That statement was so odd. How did he know there was a body even before the results of the fluid came back? (I think)

I wonder if he witnessed something and didn't act. Advised his daughter to dispose of evidence. Sprayed something to mask the smell by killing the bugs. Then sent Casey away.

Casey dazed and confused quickly dumped the body. With her dad the cop's blessing she felt safe from LE. So she went to party.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Tater on December 12, 2008, 10:08:31 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

Maybe Casey was hoping that if she told George where Caylee was,he would move her to a more remote location.Obviously she already knew her parents were covering for her to some extent..I dunno


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 10:09:00 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 10:09:22 AM
If there really was duct tape around the "mouth" then maybe the body was kept in the freezer, so could have been in almost perfect condition, but why would someone remove it now and place it in the woods????  For them to take vacum cleaners from the house, there must be dirt from the back yard, transferred to the trunk, transferred to the bag she was in????  Come on, some of you monkeys are brilliant, figure this out for me- kay????


Always, i don't think Caylee ever was in the freezer. Tim Miller said last night that he actually went to the location when he got into town. The bag had been removed but you could see where it had been sitting for several months. He said there was no way that it had been put there recently, he could tell. He said "Believe me, I know"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: FormerFLGirl on December 12, 2008, 10:10:00 AM
to me LE taking all the vacuums maybe they have footprints near the remains therefore  someone might be tracking or carrying the dirt from that area via the shoes back to the anthony home, and this soil or trace evidence might be in the vacuum cleaners.....

just a guess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

Like a Victim of Incest.. ?
Casey has been covering for George the whole time ?

I need another cup of coffee

Yep. Now that the walls are closing in on the Anthony's they will sing like canaries because obviously they can't keep quiet and be normal.

Yeah, incest . . . all the vacuum cleaners got me thinking of hair, that perhaps that Caylee was raped and they might have found a particular type of hair on the body and are checking the vacuum cleaners out for the same type . . .  but then I thought, "No, no, Casey killed her -- it is obviously all her," and then the pesticide tanks made me think of George perhaps trying to clean up the bugs, and actually chloroform is an ingredient in some pesticides . . . I don't know what to think, whether he was involved in just the cleanup or the actual event.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:10:27 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's

But what could it be? Do we know for sure the body had no clothing? Why strip the child down and then throw in a cross or a toy? Just tihnking out loud ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 10:11:01 AM
Or maybe, Casey did lay Caylee on the ground in the back yard and transferred dirt to the trunk, so when she got rid of the body, she used the vacumn and threw the vacumn bags in with the body and they are trying to see which vacumn matched the bags?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blaze on December 12, 2008, 10:11:12 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

It is so surreal, that little Caylee Marie has been found.  God Bless this precious little child. 

Now to prove KC did it.

I wonder or would think that maybe LE would want to get a hold of that woman that took that trash bag from the Anthony's in the very beginning. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:11:12 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?

I wonder if GA possibly did see her body in the trunk, and gave the description of her clothes in case she was found. They could still claim it was zanny. I don't think that I believe that though! If someone other than KC disposed of her, I don't think they would have left her there. I believe they would have travelled much further away. I really think they didn't know anything before they retrieved the car. That's when they went into protecting KC mode, maybe helping cover up "just in case". I just don't think she admitted a thing to them, I don't think she could have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 10:19:25 AM
Morning Monks old and new. I finally gave up last night y'all kept kicking me outta the cage...dang that hurt's!!

I was so glad to see Sheriff Beary admit this morning on I think it was the Today show, that there was something in the bag that prompted the search warrant...wish he could have given us a hint as to what it might have been...but he is a professional......waiting for confirmation is going to be tough...so all we can do not is speculate, theorized and WAIT......and perhaps a little cussin and spittin thrown in ::MonkeyWink::  I remember when Casey stated...they haven't even found her clothes yet AND Sheriff Beary said there were no clothes in the bag.....very telling....but there WAS something in that bag besides Caylee's remains that sent them to the A's house with a search warrant. I hope JB never has another good night sleep.... IMO he has known all along and has aided Casey in keeping Caylee out in those woods...Bastxrd!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 10:19:58 AM
Fortunately they can track garbage bags to the manufacturer, the lot, the machine, and what stores they were shipped to for purchase.

I watched a forensics/crime special on this, and was amazed what a garbage bag can tell investigators.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:20:33 AM
Anyone have a link to NeJame video? I'm about 40 pages behind!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Nejame
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=nejameinterview_121120080448&cat=CAC&title=Mark%20NeJame%20Speaks%20To%20News%2013

Thank you! Just now catching up! Too fast for me this morning. Coffee pleeeeze.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littletxlady on December 12, 2008, 10:21:10 AM

Caylee Anthony Update: Several Items of Interest Found
 
Meanwhile, a source inside the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office has said that the death penalty that was recently taken off the table would be reconsidered if the remains are proven to be Caylee. It was just one week ago that the state attorney's office announced they would not seek the death penalty against Anthony in the first-degree murder of Caylee.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/several-items-o.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:21:22 AM
I skipped ahead so this may have already been posted:

Clothing Found Near Skull In Woods Near Anthony Home

Clothing was found near a skull that was discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home, Local 6 News reports.


Video link:

http://www.local6.com/video/18262788/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 10:21:30 AM


LP pinpointed Lee Vista Blvd and the pings which was the exact time she disposed of the body. He was right on. I posted Econlockhatchee Trail which is parallel from his description. So he knew the area, it was just a matter of time before the remains surfaced.
Casey put the body there, probably in a shallow grave and hurricane Fay soaked the area and put it underwater. Then when the water receded it washed away the top soil and revealed the bag. Some guy took a pee and yay, Caylee was found. Just like Lacy Peterson washed up in perfect time.


Morning all Monkeys.  

Since I'm "ping" challenged, does this mean that KC was talking to someone on her cell at the place where she disposed of Caylee's body?


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I'm "ping challenged too, but I think as long as the phone is powered on, it is pinging?!?!?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 10:22:23 AM
I see monkeys are busy again today.  Think in terms of small when you try to guess as to what they found in the bag.  That duct tape will be a treasure trove of evidence.   Hopefully, it will have epithelial cells from her body, hair, blood, fingerprints, etc.  The vacuums and things removed from the Anthony's house tells me they are looking for "small" things....bugs..maggots...to match what was found in the trunk and on the remains. A certain kind of plant or foliage that may have been attached to other places inside the bag.  It would go a long way to proving she was at the Anthony's after she died.  Sand that is particular to the back yard or even consistent with only particular areas of Orlando. And let's not forget this...jewelry....was Caylee's ears pierced?  Was she wearing a ring or necklace?  Photos of what she was wearing, etc.

CSI was looking for something of substance that could be matched.  The duct tape is what I am thinking.  All they need is something that was also wrapped in duct tape from the garage.  If it does not match then they have to obtain duct tape from other places such as Tony's or whoever she may have borrowed things from.  LE is playing catch up trying to find what matches what, but I feel sure they have a pretty good handle on things at this point. 

As for Casey...no sympathy from me...she did what she did. The LE had already taken the death penalty off the table. Their evidence was sketchy to prove first degree murder.  Then the unimaginable happened.....God intervened!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 10:24:36 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?

I wonder if GA possibly did see her body in the trunk, and gave the description of her clothes in case she was found. They could still claim it was zanny. I don't think that I believe that though! If someone other than KC disposed of her, I don't think they would have left her there. I believe they would have travelled much further away. I really think they didn't know anything before they retrieved the car. That's when they went into protecting KC mode, maybe helping cover up "just in case". I just don't think she admitted a thing to them, I don't think she could have.

Thinking outloud


George made that comment about the body in his daughters trunk was not his granddaughter

A monkey here made a comment about whoever got rid of the body was treating it like a thing an object

On the 24th Casey was on her myspace when George said they got into it about getting the wheel chock from the trunk..

Many have speculated George found Caylee that day and possibly had Casey stay home while he "dumped" the body (we discussed this VERY early on here)

Is it possible George did take Casey car on the 24th "dump" the body around the corner and come right back because he couldnt stand the smell...

Maybe his comment about that not being his granddaughter was his brain trying to rationalize what he found...
That in his mind his grandaughter was still alive and bubbly and all that Caylee was...
But what he found was not CAYLEE, Hence it being easier for him to dispose of her...

Maybe Casey freaked because whoever "dumped" the body assured her it wouldnt be found...
Police are looking into reports of somone else in that area....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 10:26:28 AM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's

But what could it be? Do we know for sure the body had no clothing? Why strip the child down and then throw in a cross or a toy? Just tihnking out loud ...

just a thought but maybe a picture in the home of what ever was in the bag her  hairband , whatever she may have been wrapped in, or other sentimental item


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:26:37 AM
Again - I skipped ahead so forgive me if this has already been posted:

http://www.local6.com/news/18262363/detail.html


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Sheriff: Evidence Links Remains Of Child To Caylee Anthony Home
Missing Caylee Last Seen In Mid-June

POSTED: 6:36 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 10:10 am EST December 12, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A medical examiner found evidence among a child's remains that link them to the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents, the county sheriff said Friday, offering the strongest indication yet that the remains may be those of the missing 3-year-old girl.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said investigators searched the home late Thursday night into early Friday morning after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked it to the house." He would not say what clues were found.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

The remains were found Thursday by a utility worker on a wooded lot less than a half-mile from the house where Caylee lived with her grandparents and her mother, Casey Anthony.

Casey Anthony, 22, was charged in October with first-degree murder, even though the toddler's body has not yet been found. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but she didn't report Caylee missing until July.

Beary said his investigators and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

Asked if he believed if the remains are Caylee, Beary said: "I think it's a good possibility, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis."

There are no other missing-child cases in the area.

"I say my prayers every day and one of them is to solve this case," said Beary, who is retiring in January. "I just hope that we solve the case on my watch."

Evidence Removed From Home

Crime scene detectives late Thursday night removed bags and boxes of evidence from the home after the discovery.

Authorities obtained a search warrant for George and Cindy Anthony's Hopespring Drive home in east Orange County, and investigators were seen removing seven large paper bags and four boxes of evidence. They also seized four vacuum cleaners and two pesticide tanks.

The search occurred after an Orange County utility worker who reads water meters found the remains in a plastic bag while relieving himself in a wooded area about 12 feet off Suburban Drive near South Chickasaw Trail. A skull that had duct tape on it and clothing were found nearby, Local 6 News reported.

Detectives said they will continue to comb the area, which has been surrounded by crime tape.

"We'll be back out bright and early," Orange County sheriff's Sgt. John Allen said.

Earlier on Thursday, the girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother, Lee Anthony, showed up at his parents' house but was escorted out. It is not known why she went into the home.

A Texas-based search team looking for Caylee had searched the area where the remains were found, but the wooded area was flooded at the time.

"I know it's going to take a few days to get a positive ID, but there's no other missing children in this area, let alone three-tenths of a mile from the home, so I have no doubts," EqquSearch leader Tim Miller said.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, filed an emergency motion on Thursday to participate in forensic testing on the remains, if they are determined to be that of Caylee.

The hearing will be held Friday at 11:30 a.m. at the Orange County courthouse and will be streamed live on Local6.com. Casey Anthony will not attend the hearing.

'Very Strong Lead'

Beary said on Thursday that the remains are "a very strong lead in solving the case" involving Caylee.

Beary confirmed that the skull of a child had been recovered. Deputies said it's too early to tell if the remains, which were later taken away in a medical examiner's van, are that of Caylee.

"We've had thousands of people who've got tremendous hearts who have come out and search for little Caylee, and this is a very tough situation for everybody that's been involved in this case, but this is probably a lead toward that closure," Beary said.

Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio confirmed that the remains are likely that of a girl. D'Onofrio said the worker saw the bag, opened it, saw the remains of a child and called 911.

"Deputies did respond to that area, and once we were on the scene, we determined that we do have the remains of a young child. Obviously, our concern is that it's in close proximity to some recent activity in that part of the county, and it's incumbent upon us to determine what we have," said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons, referring to the Casey Anthony case.

The age and gender of the remains are not known.

"It would be inappropriate to speculate," Orange County sheriff's Capt. Angelo Nieves said. "Our investigators are on scene, evaluating and processing the situation. It's very early."

Leonard Padilla, a bounty hunter who initially bailed Casey Anthony out of jail and has searched for Caylee, said, "It's a bittersweet day."

"We drove by (the wooded area where the remains were found) dozens of times. We heard that there were searches going on in that area," Padilla said.

Cindy Anthony first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and her daughter's car smelled like death.

Police immediately interviewed Casey Anthony and said that everything she told them about her Caylee's whereabouts was false.

Casey Anthony said she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez at an Orange County apartment complex, and the two were missing when she returned to pick up Caylee. Detectives said the baby sitter was nonexistent and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months. Anthony also lied about where she worked, detectives said.

As the case unfolded, troubling details emerged. Photos of Anthony partying after her daughter went missing surfaced. Friends said she was a habitual liar, but they also said that she was a good mother.

Earlier this month, the Orange County state attorney turned over almost 800 pages of documents, which showed someone at the Anthony home had done Internet searches for terms like "neck breaking" and "household weapons."

In mid-March, someone used the Anthonys' home laptop to search Google and Wikipedia for peroxide, shovels, acetone, alcohol and chloroform. Traces of chloroform, which is used to induce unconsciousness and also a component of human decomposition, were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car during forensic testing, the documents said.

Orange County jail officials also released several hours of videotapes of visits between Casey Anthony and her family from July and August, when she was arrested on neglect and other counts but before she was charged with first-degree murder.

During the taped visits, Anthony's parents tell her they're trying hard to find the little girl. Anthony does not appear to add information to aid that search beyond her account that a baby sitter took the girl.

Last week, prosecutors announced they would not pursue the death penalty for Anthony, although that move could be reversed.

The Orange County State Attorney's Office said in a news release last week that "it is not in the best interest of the people of the state of Florida" to pursue the death penalty against Anthony.

Timeline Revisited

After the discovery of the remains, Local 6 News investigative reporter Tony Pipitone revisted cell phone records released in the Casey Anthony case to track her whereabouts.

Caylee was last seen June 16, the day George Anthony said he last saw his daughter and granddaughter together.

"Ten minutes to 1 (o'clock) that afternoon on the 16th is when I actually saw Casey and Caylee together -- both leaving with backpacks. My daughter said she was going to work, and she was taking Caylee to the nanny, to the babysitter," George Anthony said in a released police interview.

Investigators said they do not believe the baby sitter existed.

Seven hours later, Casey Anthony was seen on surveillance video renting a movie at a Blockbuster with her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro, and Caylee was not with them.

Casey Anthony returned home on Tuesday, June 17 around 2:30 p.m. but went back toward Lazzaro's home less than three hours later, phone records show.

But June 17 was just one day after Caylee was last seen alive, and investigators believe that's when Caylee likely died, Pipitone reported.

Scientific evidence suggests that human remains that decomposed in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car were there for up to two-and-a-half days after death.

Pipitone said that fact may lead investigators to focus on Wednesday, June 18 to June 19.

A neighbor told investigators that Casey Anthony borrowed a shovel on June 18 and also backed her car into her grandparents' garage, which was unusual, the neighbor said.

Cell phone records show that Casey Anthony pinged a tower near her parents' home from around 2:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. on June 18, then her phone pinged along the Econ Trail, south of Lake Underhill.

The area between those two locations is the wooded area where the remains and skull of a child were located on Thursday, Pipitone reported.

Casey Anthony's phone pinged near her boyfriend's apartment before going silent at 6:57 p.m., records show, and did not ping another tower until 8:32 a.m. Thursday, June 19, also near his apartment.

It is not known where Casey Anthony was during that 13-hour span.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 10:27:22 AM
I see monkeys are busy again today.  Think in terms of small when you try to guess as to what they found in the bag.  That duct tape will be a treasure trove of evidence.   Hopefully, it will have epithelial cells from her body, hair, blood, fingerprints, etc.  The vacuums and things removed from the Anthony's house tells me they are looking for "small" things....bugs..maggots...to match what was found in the trunk and on the remains. A certain kind of plant or foliage that may have been attached to other places inside the bag.  It would go a long way to proving she was at the Anthony's after she died.  Sand that is particular to the back yard or even consistent with only particular areas of Orlando. And let's not forget this...jewelry....was Caylee's ears pierced?  Was she wearing a ring or necklace?  Photos of what she was wearing, etc.

CSI was looking for something of substance that could be matched.  The duct tape is what I am thinking.  All they need is something that was also wrapped in duct tape from the garage.  If it does not match then they have to obtain duct tape from other places such as Tony's or whoever she may have borrowed things from.  LE is playing catch up trying to find what matches what, but I feel sure they have a pretty good handle on things at this point. 

As for Casey...no sympathy from me...she did what she did. The LE had already taken the death penalty off the table. Their evidence was sketchy to prove first degree murder.  Then the unimaginable happened.....God intervened!

I really do believe God intervened, too. I believe that it was all of the collective love, hope, prayers, and concern that everyone had for darling Caylee that finally broke through. Ironically, I prayed so hard to St. Jude (the Saint of the Impossible) the night before this finding happened -- just prayed that the truth would come out and Caylee would finally receive the dignity of a proper burial and justice for what happened to her. I still cry every time I see her sing "You Are My Sunshine." She is an angel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 10:27:51 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?

I wonder if GA possibly did see her body in the trunk, and gave the description of her clothes in case she was found. They could still claim it was zanny. I don't think that I believe that though! If someone other than KC disposed of her, I don't think they would have left her there. I believe they would have travelled much further away. I really think they didn't know anything before they retrieved the car. That's when they went into protecting KC mode, maybe helping cover up "just in case". I just don't think she admitted a thing to them, I don't think she could have.

It had crossed my mind that after leaving the tow yard, George found Caylee's body in the trunk where the tire goes and disposed of her.  I thought this b/c of Casey's insistence that she didn't know where she was.  I always believed that.  Then w/ her wanting to speak w/ George from the jail. I thought maybe George didn't want to tell b/c it would be damning to Casey and Casey couldn't tell b/c it would be damning for George.  That in a sense, they were protecting each other. 

I don't really think that happened b/c I do believe George has been beside himself in this and don't think he could go to work after that.  I really think that George and Cindy are victims in this also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Truth Seeker on December 12, 2008, 10:29:38 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!  Geeze, what a sad night.  I am glad that it appears little Caylee has been found, I hung on to a wee bit of hope that maybe (against all odds) she might one day come home alive.  Poor baby!

I do not usually get into theories, but there are a few oddities that make me want to speculate.

1.  Remember the find in that same area where there was a rope sticking out of the ground where something was buried?  I believe LE officially said someone had buried a dog there.  The interview released of the 2 people who had discovered it said, at the end, "...and you did not speak to the media about this, right?".  No one ever came forward and stated "OH, that was my dog I buried".

2.  Tim Miller had started searching that area and stopped because much of it was under water and he was afraid if something was there, driving 4wheelers and people walking over it might disturb the body and evidence so the search was stopped until it dried out.  It just dried out enough this week to where they thought they might be able to search it again.  Tim said that a chain link fence was erected around that area shortly after that.

3.  It was reported that there were utility people in there trying to unstop a drainage pipe to further drain the area.  It was one of those utility people who discovered the body  Rains were expected to move in again yesterday (and indeed it did rain).

Here is my theory.  I wonder if LE did in fact discover something buried - related to Caylee - in that hole with the rope sticking out of it?  LE told the people who discovered the hole/rope not to speak to the media and made sure they had not spoken to the media.  Since they could not recover a body at that time without compromising the scene, they ordered a chain link fence to be erected around the area.

Tim stated that just this week it had dried up enough to go in there and search the area again.  Hard rains were expected to come in again to that area yesterday.

I think those "utility workers" might have been in there at the direction of LE (or actually were LE) to search the area for the body.

I believe LE was almost certain that the body was in there and that is one reason that Tim suddenly called of the search the last time he was here.  

Anyway, this is just my look at what might turn out to be the reality of this find.

One other thing, that guy yesterday who was wearing those white sun glasses and always supported KC?  Besides being a "drama queen", I really wonder about his involvement in this case.  He just makes my HINKEY meter go off the charts!

  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:32:17 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html

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Search Of Anthony House Ends, Evidence Removed
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 10:20 am EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Investigators said they concluded their search of the Anthony home Friday morning after serving a search warrant Thursday night and removing several items. The search came after a child's remains were found near their house Thursday morning.

Investigators overnight pulled several boxes and bags of evidence from the Anthony family home (watch raw video). The conclusion of the search means the Anthonys could now return home, but it was unclear if or when that would happen.

Friday morning, Sheriff Kevin Beary appeared on Good Morning America to discuss Thursday's findings (watch Beary on GMA).

"I know you can't go into detail, but there was something that was found that made you want to search the grandparents' home?" GMA's Robin Roberts asked Beary.

"Oh, absolutely," Beary said.

Friday morning, deputies, the medical examiner, crime scene investigators and Tim Miller of EquuSearch, who had looked for Caylee Anthony previously, began combing through the wooded area where the remains were discovered, in search of more evidence.

Investigators, Friday morning, were cutting through brush and tree limbs near the scene of the remains discovery looking for fibers and hair. Blue tents were erected and a white sheet was laid out near the search area, likely for investigators to place potential evidence once discovered.


On Thursday night, Eyewitness News was at the Anthonys' home in Orange County as deputies spent hours inside processing the scene. Investigators removed three vacuum cleaners, notebooks and papers from the house on Hopespring Drive.

Neighbors said that, after Thursday's gruesome discovery of a child's remains nearby, they expected the crowds, but they don't believe there will be any protesting.

"I think it's going to be different, like showing their support for the family and everything," said neighbor Joyce Dickens.

Meanwhile, Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, filed an emergency motion (read motion) Thursday, because he wants to be present for any forensic testing on the remains. The court hearing to discuss the motion will be held at 11:30am Friday (Hearing will be shown live on WFTV.com).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
Another Casey Anthony dream juror:  ::MonkeyEek::

Quote
Linda Gossar   December 11th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

please tell all to remain strong…it still has to be proven she is caylee, and it still is open as to how she died, and who killed her…
nancy grace has obscured justice from the start…
i also think the meter guy should be checked out…seems strange if it was in water, that it was not seen sooner, and it would have floated,
also, i cannot see that there would be any reason for caycee to undress her,
it shows the markings of gang activity…caycee was going to tell in court, and this could be the retaliation which was promised her…they could have killed her from the start, someone who wanted to hurt her, for whatever reason…
as far as the duct tape on her, there is meaning in that, you didnt shut your mouth…
i still say innocent until proven guilty…and nancy grace should be taken off television, for she uses her twins as bait, and too many people are of lower intellegence, and those who do not believe in the rights which are given us to protect us from being persecuted…
innocent till proven guilty, falls on dead ears.
look at the people who are gathering at the parents house, people seem to get off on such horrid and shocking situations…
it may be caylee, and i am sorry if it is, but i will continue to believe that caycee is innocent until proven, only it sure seems like she wont get the chance…
we do have, throughout the states, many police and justice who are criminals, and who frame others with their misuse of power, on the other hand, the gang signs the nanny’s family were doing, proves to me, they are involved in illegal activities…
i would like to see this video again…i shouldnt have wrote nancy grace about it, for she is miss repeat, yet she has not since repeated this video.
please know my prayers are with all of you….no matter what…but the way this has unfolded fits more with the gang styles than of a deranged mother, which i did not see, i saw how much caycee loved caylee.
and they can shove something in that cowboy turn coat for a peice of fame, and nancy grace treats him decent since he turned her way…
it was also said this area was checked in the past…a plastic bag, some of it would have shown…
family cannot even have any privacy, even in their visits…
all of you who are enjoying this, you know, who says oh thank you so much nancy for what you do, she has not done anything other than add to the confusion.
oh and i love your children, now they can all pretend at grieving, how can they grieve when they did not even know her…?
look at the percentage who voted republican, they knew it meant this illegal invasion of iraq would continue, and they care not for all the lives which have been lost…
bush, as the representative of this party, did not go after bin laden, who claimed he was responsible, and there are still ppl who think suddam (sorry mispelled) is responsible for 9/11…
i think nancy grace would do better defending him, though he needs to be impeached….
anyway, i do not use caffiene, or any drugs, excuse me for this long comment…
i am upset, feeling for the family, feeling still, this is not right…in these times,
i know you all are crying, and hearts heavy, i wish you could know, but seems the body was placed there, and i believe your daughter is innocent…
i have one last comment, all of you who are not looking at what could be truth, leave the family alone…can’t you find something better to do? go down to one of the charities and give your help, and maybe the fat wont gather in your brain cells…

From the LK blog

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:33:39 AM
If there is clothing found, do you guys think it will verify what George said she was wearing 6/16 or will it help the story about the babysitter?

I wonder if GA possibly did see her body in the trunk, and gave the description of her clothes in case she was found. They could still claim it was zanny. I don't think that I believe that though! If someone other than KC disposed of her, I don't think they would have left her there. I believe they would have travelled much further away. I really think they didn't know anything before they retrieved the car. That's when they went into protecting KC mode, maybe helping cover up "just in case". I just don't think she admitted a thing to them, I don't think she could have.

Thinking outloud


George made that comment about the body in his daughters trunk was not his granddaughter

A monkey here made a comment about whoever got rid of the body was treating it like a thing an object

On the 24th Casey was on her myspace when George said they got into it about getting the wheel chock from the trunk..

Many have speculated George found Caylee that day and possibly had Casey stay home while he "dumped" the body (we discussed this VERY early on here)

Is it possible George did take Casey car on the 24th "dump" the body around the corner and come right back because he couldnt stand the smell...

Maybe his comment about that not being his granddaughter was his brain trying to rationalize what he found...
That in his mind his grandaughter was still alive and bubbly and all that Caylee was...
But what he found was not CAYLEE, Hence it being easier for him to dispose of her...

Maybe Casey freaked because whoever "dumped" the body assured her it wouldnt be found...
Police are looking into reports of somone else in that area....

I have a hard time believing GA would have knowingly disposed of his granddaughter in that way. For some reason I don't think he could have done that, but I don't really know. Unless she did not tell him what or who was in the bag, but if he knew it was a person it would have obviously been a small person. If it was him who placed her in the woods, I think he could not have done it thinking or knowing it was Caylee. That's jmo though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: atlanta_mom on December 12, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
Where are the A's?  If this were my grandchild, you would have to physically remove me from the scene... I would want to be close to the spot where she was found.

traci


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 10:36:04 AM
Quietmonkey I flip flop on George and Lee all the time...LOL

This whole family is "unusual" to say the least..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 10:36:08 AM
I skipped ahead so this may have already been posted:

Clothing Found Near Skull In Woods Near Anthony Home

Clothing was found near a skull that was discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home, Local 6 News reports.


Video link:

http://www.local6.com/video/18262788/index.html

Thanks, Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 10:36:18 AM
Where are the A's?  If this were my grandchild, you would have to physically remove me from the scene... I would want to be close to the spot where she was found.

traci

Getting ready for their Larry King interview tonight.  I know when most people lose a loved one, their first thought is to go on a cable talk show. (Sarcasm)

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 10:39:22 AM
Klaas thanks for posting all the updates!

Was Tim released from the hospital or did he leave on his own? He didn't look too good on TV last night and now he is at the scene searching. God Please Take Care of Tim Miller


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: sharon on December 12, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
I skipped ahead so this may have already been posted:

Clothing Found Near Skull In Woods Near Anthony Home

Clothing was found near a skull that was discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home, Local 6 News reports.


Video link:

http://www.local6.com/video/18262788/index.html

LOL

I was just trying to post that (and kept losing the link)!

I just watched the NBC videos and heard that! It was not mentioned on any news that I watched last night.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cherjers on December 12, 2008, 10:40:54 AM
Another Casey Anthony dream juror:  ::MonkeyEek::

Quote
Linda Gossar   December 11th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

please tell all to remain strong…it still has to be proven she is caylee, and it still is open as to how she died, and who killed her…
nancy grace has obscured justice from the start…
i also think the meter guy should be checked out…seems strange if it was in water, that it was not seen sooner, and it would have floated,
also, i cannot see that there would be any reason for caycee to undress her,
it shows the markings of gang activity…caycee was going to tell in court, and this could be the retaliation which was promised her…they could have killed her from the start, someone who wanted to hurt her, for whatever reason…
as far as the duct tape on her, there is meaning in that, you didnt shut your mouth…
i still say innocent until proven guilty…and nancy grace should be taken off television, for she uses her twins as bait, and too many people are of lower intellegence, and those who do not believe in the rights which are given us to protect us from being persecuted…
innocent till proven guilty, falls on dead ears.
look at the people who are gathering at the parents house, people seem to get off on such horrid and shocking situations…
it may be caylee, and i am sorry if it is, but i will continue to believe that caycee is innocent until proven, only it sure seems like she wont get the chance…
we do have, throughout the states, many police and justice who are criminals, and who frame others with their misuse of power, on the other hand, the gang signs the nanny’s family were doing, proves to me, they are involved in illegal activities…
i would like to see this video again…i shouldnt have wrote nancy grace about it, for she is miss repeat, yet she has not since repeated this video.
please know my prayers are with all of you….no matter what…but the way this has unfolded fits more with the gang styles than of a deranged mother, which i did not see, i saw how much caycee loved caylee.
and they can shove something in that cowboy turn coat for a peice of fame, and nancy grace treats him decent since he turned her way…
it was also said this area was checked in the past…a plastic bag, some of it would have shown…
family cannot even have any privacy, even in their visits…
all of you who are enjoying this, you know, who says oh thank you so much nancy for what you do, she has not done anything other than add to the confusion.
oh and i love your children, now they can all pretend at grieving, how can they grieve when they did not even know her…?
look at the percentage who voted republican, they knew it meant this illegal invasion of iraq would continue, and they care not for all the lives which have been lost…
bush, as the representative of this party, did not go after bin laden, who claimed he was responsible, and there are still ppl who think suddam (sorry mispelled) is responsible for 9/11…
i think nancy grace would do better defending him, though he needs to be impeached….
anyway, i do not use caffiene, or any drugs, excuse me for this long comment…
i am upset, feeling for the family, feeling still, this is not right…in these times,
i know you all are crying, and hearts heavy, i wish you could know, but seems the body was placed there, and i believe your daughter is innocent…
i have one last comment, all of you who are not looking at what could be truth, leave the family alone…can’t you find something better to do? go down to one of the charities and give your help, and maybe the fat wont gather in your brain cells…

From the LK blog

Lisa
  I thought all the nuts in this case were the antohnys--I guess I was wrong


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CasuallyCool on December 12, 2008, 10:41:09 AM
Are the Scamthony's still scheduled to appear on Larry King tonight?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 10:41:13 AM
Says it all

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 10:41:26 AM
Where are the A's?  If this were my grandchild, you would have to physically remove me from the scene... I would want to be close to the spot where she was found.

traci

I doubt the LE would allow them there as they are still looking for evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 10:41:30 AM
does anyone have a link to live coverage of the hearing this morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 10:42:32 AM
Just a few of my findings from reading the news sites this morning:

I am listening to channel 13 live, and they are reporting that investigators are out again today at the scene of where the remains were found. They reported that Tim Miller is there again today and has expressed anger at Casey for not just telling them right where Caylee's remains were. Instead, a lot of resources were wasted.

I understand the Anthony house has been cleared and the family is allowed to return now.

Taken by investigators from the Anthony home: The forensics agents were seen stuffing at least 3 boxes, 1 laptop, 4 large paper bags into one vehicle.  They then filled another vehicle with even more large paper bags, 2 vacuum cleaners and 1 wet/dry vac, and papers and notebooks.

Apparently, no one has heard anything from them yet.

Sheriff Bearly also restated the timeline for a positive ID on the remains today on Good Morning America. He said it should take 7-14 days. He also noted that the case is high priority and the people working it are willing to work through the weekend.

Jose Baez will be heard in court this morning at 11:30 concerning his emergency motion he filed yesterday.

Have I missed anything of great importance?

And hello monkeys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:42:41 AM
I skipped ahead so this may have already been posted:

Clothing Found Near Skull In Woods Near Anthony Home

Clothing was found near a skull that was discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home, Local 6 News reports.


Video link:

http://www.local6.com/video/18262788/index.html

wow, new to me, thanks klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 10:43:01 AM
Oh, I see, they MUST tie the bag to the trunk, to the house, to the yard in order to dismiss any allegations Casey may still make that someone else took Caylee and killed her, duh, kicking myself to the back of the cage...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 10:43:20 AM
Goodmorning Monkies!

Just pokin' my head in for a few bc very busy w/work.  I've been out of touch the last 48hrs and actually heard of the discovery on NG which I had DVR'd and was watching at 11:30 PM. 

I am overwhelmed with the emotion of finally having our wishes come true (hopefully) of Caylee finally receiving peace and a propery burial and the fact that this beautiful girl will never be able to live a long and happy life.  I am very solemn.

I just want to say thank you all for all of your hard work and dedication.  I have loved the meeting of the minds in the cage, yet not one of us has asked for a pat on the back or said "I told you so".  Very admirable. 

I will be trying to keep up w/you all, as NUMBERSGIRL can attest this is a very busy time.  I know this is the best place for up to date info.

Lovinlife

Hi Lovinlife...I agree with everything you've said...A very special thank-you indeed to all monkeys who post the latest and most accurate information.  I really appreciate being able to check in and see what's happening. You Monkeys are better than most "news organizations".  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 10:43:30 AM
Yuri
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 10:44:12 AM
SNIPPED FROM OS>>

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 10:44:20 AM
Good Morning. Took forever to get caught up, thanks for all the articles you posted. Clothes found near the remains, that's interesting. All the items taken from the home, esp all the vacuums, I loved the comment about OCD and the number of vacuums. My daughter was like please don't tell them how many vacuums that I have, but Cindy still has more then me, but not by much. ::MonkeyRoll:: I heard Geraldo this morning on Fox, it sure sounded like LE is looking at another person. Linda Kenney Baden, watched her in action for six months during the first Phil Spector trial, personally can't stand the woman, I don't see her as anything special, but I believe Baez brought her on board for the forensic part of the trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:44:30 AM


LP pinpointed Lee Vista Blvd and the pings which was the exact time she disposed of the body. He was right on. I posted Econlockhatchee Trail which is parallel from his description. So he knew the area, it was just a matter of time before the remains surfaced.
Casey put the body there, probably in a shallow grave and hurricane Fay soaked the area and put it underwater. Then when the water receded it washed away the top soil and revealed the bag. Some guy took a pee and yay, Caylee was found. Just like Lacy Peterson washed up in perfect time.


Morning all Monkeys.  

Since I'm "ping" challenged, does this mean that KC was talking to someone on her cell at the place where she disposed of Caylee's body?



I'm "ping challenged too, but I think as long as the phone is powered on, it is pinging?!?!?!
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YES, this is right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:44:57 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Evidence, Vacuum Cleaners Removed From Anthony Home
Beary Says Gut Tells Him Remains Are Caylee's

POSTED: 6:07 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 9:47 am EST December 12, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Caylee Anthony was reported missing in July. She was 2 at the time of her disappearance. Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, is accused of her murder. Anthony is currently in the Orange County jail, charged with first-degree murder.

Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons confirmed the remains were found in a sealed plastic bag along Suburban Drive by a meter reader who called authorities about 9:30 a.m. The utility worker who discovered the remains said a skull rolled out of the bag when he picked it up. Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 and NBC News that duct tape was found on the mouth.

The remains were found about one third of a mile from the Anthony’s home on Hopespring drive in East Orlando. Casey Anthony stayed at the home with Caylee before she went missing.(View Map)

A medical examiner took the remains from the scene Thursday afternoon. The crime scene is still active and investigators are expected to continue searching the area for evidence Friday.

Casey Anthony’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, returned to Florida on Thursday after a trip to California to appear on "Larry King Live" and pursue reported sightings of Caylee in the area. The sheriff’s department said the Anthony’s could not return to their home and they did not know where the Anthony’s went when they returned to Orlando.

A deputy is guarding the Anthony’s home and the police helicopter is watching the area. Beary warned onlookers to stay away from the area surrounding the home.

"We’re going to secure this area, and if anyone wants to try to sneak in and play games, they are going to go the 33rd Street and they can see a judge in the morning," Beary said.

Beary appeared on "The Today Show" Friday morning to discuss the discovery. He said Casey Anthony is on a psychological watch at the Orange County jail and that he thinks the remains are Caylee's. (Watch Video)

"My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure. Just like we always have to, we are going to be waiting for facts," Beary said when Matt Lauer asked him if he believes the remains are Caylee’s.

Investigators removed several bags of evidence from the home early Friday morning, including three vacuum cleaners and a small pillow. A total of three vehicles were filled with evidence. Lead investigator Sgt. John Allen said investigators will return on Friday to remove more evidence.

"We know that there’s some clues that came out of the remains found yesterday and that’s why we’ve kind of linked it back to the house. That’s why we did everything proper, got a search warrant and secured the premises and searched into the wee hours this morning," Beary said.


During a news conference Thursday evening, Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, confirmed that she was upset when she found out about the remains being found and requested a sedative at the jail. Sources described Casey Anthony’s reaction as an anxiety attack.

Baez went to the Orange County Jail Thursday afternoon to be with his client. Later Thursday, he filed an emergency motion to ensure his involvement in the testing of the newly found remains. A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 11:30.

Anthony family spokeswoman Michelle Bart returned to Orlando around 9 p.m. Thursday.

"As a family member, it’s a very difficult situation to constantly have to go through the uncertainty of what may be and what may not be. At this point, we’re here as a team and we’ll be ready to make a comment as soon as we know what’s going on," Bart said.

WESH 2's Michelle Meredith reported that the area has been searched in the past because Casey Anthony spent time in the wooded area with her friends when she was in high school. Meredith said the area is very thick with trees and other vegetation.

According to Equusearch, volunteers tried to search the area, but it was underwater. When they returned, the area was blocked by a chain-link fence.

Tim Miller of Equusearch said he believes the remains are Caylee's and he expects to attend her funeral within a week.

"I feel very optimistic that these are the remains of Caylee. We don't have any other missing children in the Orlando area, especially that close to the Anthony home," Miller said.

Meredith said the feeling on the scene shortly after the find was much more urgent than when bounty hunter Leonard Padilla found possible bones weeks ago in a retention pond.

"It appears they have something very significant," Meredith said. "It is being taken very, very seriously."

Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said his team did not search the area where the bones were found, but he drove by it several times.

The exact age or the gender of the child is unknown, and investigators are not connecting the remains to the Anthony case, but Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said it is definitely a possibility that the remains are Caylee's.

Beary said it is confirmed that a human skull was found. He also said the area where the discovery was made was flooded during earlier searches.

Earlier this week, the state attorney's office decided to not seek the death penalty for mother Casey Anthony, but a source from the state attorney's office said Thursday that if the body does belong to Caylee, the death penalty may be back on the table.

After a hearing Thursday morning, Casey Anthony's trial was pushed back until March.

Around the same time the remains were discovered, Casey Anthony made several purchases from the jail’s commissary. Anthony spent just under $20 on items like, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, lemonade, granola bars and other snacks. (Read full list of purchases)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:45:16 AM
I apologize if this has been asked before...

George's gun was removed from the home when Casey was there, out on bond. Was he allowed to get it back after she was taken back into custody? (is there any way of knowing whether or not he did get it back?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 10:46:15 AM
Just a few of my findings from reading the news sites this morning:

I am listening to channel 13 live, and they are reporting that investigators are out again today at the scene of where the remains were found. They reported that Tim Miller is there again today and has expressed anger at Casey for not just telling them right where Caylee's remains were. Instead, a lot of resources were wasted.

I understand the Anthony house has been cleared and the family is allowed to return now.

Taken by investigators from the Anthony home: The forensics agents were seen stuffing at least 3 boxes, 1 laptop, 4 large paper bags into one vehicle.  They then filled another vehicle with even more large paper bags, 2 vacuum cleaners and 1 wet/dry vac, and papers and notebooks.

Apparently, no one has heard anything from them yet.

Sheriff Bearly also restated the timeline for a positive ID on the remains today on Good Morning America. He said it should take 7-14 days. He also noted that the case is high priority and the people working it are willing to work through the weekend.

Jose Baez will be heard in court this morning at 11:30 concerning his emergency motion he filed yesterday.

Have I missed anything of great importance?

And hello monkeys.


Good morning, Brandi!!  Thanks for all the info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 10:47:16 AM
Just a few of my findings from reading the news sites this morning:

I am listening to channel 13 live, and they are reporting that investigators are out again today at the scene of where the remains were found. They reported that Tim Miller is there again today and has expressed anger at Casey for not just telling them right where Caylee's remains were. Instead, a lot of resources were wasted.

I understand the Anthony house has been cleared and the family is allowed to return now.

Taken by investigators from the Anthony home: The forensics agents were seen stuffing at least 3 boxes, 1 laptop, 4 large paper bags into one vehicle.  They then filled another vehicle with even more large paper bags, 2 vacuum cleaners and 1 wet/dry vac, and papers and notebooks.

Apparently, no one has heard anything from them yet.

Sheriff Bearly also restated the timeline for a positive ID on the remains today on Good Morning America. He said it should take 7-14 days. He also noted that the case is high priority and the people working it are willing to work through the weekend.

Jose Baez will be heard in court this morning at 11:30 concerning his emergency motion he filed yesterday.

Have I missed anything of great importance?

And hello monkeys.


Great update...thanks Brandi!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 10:48:07 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 10:48:25 AM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol


I know, HH, I didn't get ANYTHING done yesterday! Hubby was pizzed at me all day as I was glued to this chair with 6 news windows open! He's at work today though!! Woohoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: i really do have to get some stuff done, I'll be in & out  ::MonkeyTongue::

By the way, my DH & I will be married 30 years in April, so he knows I don't listen to him!!!   ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyTongue::


Yeah,yeah,let'em bitch.They are going to anyway,right? Although I have to say Hubby was asking alot of questions last night after they had it all over the news.
He ask me if I was going to get anything done today.....I told him "Absolutely".I'm gonna finish ruining my eyes and drink all the coffee I can hold.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: craftycathie on December 12, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Says it all

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2lca89z.jpg)

I hope I quoted this ok.

All this code talk from jail drives me crazy.  Does anyone believe that Lee is the second person being looked at by LE? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 10:49:32 AM
I apologize if this has been asked before...

George's gun was removed from the home when Casey was there, out on bond. Was he allowed to get it back after she was taken back into custody? (is there any way of knowing whether or not he did get it back?)

I have not heard whether he got the gun back, and I don't know how to find out, but I must say that yesterday I thought about it.

I really would like to know if he got it back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 10:49:56 AM
Search Of Anthony House Ends, Evidence Removed

Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 10:36 am EST December 12, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Investigators said they concluded their search of the Anthony home Friday morning after serving a search warrant Thursday night and removing several items. The search came after a child's remains were found near their house Thursday morning.

snip

Friday morning, Sheriff Kevin Beary appeared on Good Morning America to discuss Thursday's findings (watch Beary on GMA).

"I know you can't go into detail, but there was something that was found that made you want to search the grandparents' home?" GMA's Robin Roberts asked Beary.

"Absolutely," Beary said.



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:50:17 AM
Wow, KC has more money than me!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 10:50:30 AM
WFTV will air the Emergency Hearing live on their website at 11:30am

http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:50:58 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Translation:  We will no longer have a stand up to beg for donations.  We will dismantle the moving billboard which is costing us money anyway.  The sham is over, we have scammed all we can from this MP case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 10:51:22 AM
WFTV will air the Emergency Hearing live on their website at 11:30am

http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Thanks Beach!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 10:51:49 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Exactly - good point!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on December 12, 2008, 10:53:18 AM
dont know if anyone has seen this or not but take a look

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD9517QN00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: atlanta_mom on December 12, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
Why would she need a second person? it doesn't look like she went to much trouble.  Left Caylee in the trunk for 2-3 days then go in the middle of the night and put her 20 feet into the wood.... She didn't try very hard to cover up, maybe she staged the scene and wanted her found. 

traci


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 10:53:52 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Translation:  We will no longer have a stand up to beg for donations.  We will dismantle the moving billboard which is costing us money anyway.  The sham is over, we have scammed all we can from this MP case.


Thanks Klaas for translating for me.....my brain is like mush since yesterday ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 10:53:58 AM
I am listening (no video offered today) to http://www.cfnews13.com/Services/ListenLive/Default.aspx

They are giving updates as they occur.

If anyone is interested in listening.

I plane to switch to http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html for live coverage of the hearing at 11:30.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:54:02 AM
Klaas thanks for posting all the updates!

Was Tim released from the hospital or did he leave on his own? He didn't look too good on TV last night and now he is at the scene searching. God Please Take Care of Tim Miller

I thought he looked better than he has in months. I hope he is doing better. It just shows his selflessness and dedication.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Wow.... Do you think the Anthony's might end but being arrested for a cover up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 12, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
In regards to the vaccum cleaners, shop vacs are notoriously dirty inside. All it has is the one filter that goes around the motor part, you dump the contents in a garbage bag afterward, but there is no way to get everything unless you really scrub that puppy. The filters would not be changed that often and I don't think George has been using it since the disappearance of Caylee. Yes, he could have tossed the filter too, but there is still so much that can cling to those vacuums. If the vacuum has any evidence in it that matches the crime scene, I'm sure George is in big trouble as I don't see KC being thorough enough to clean anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 10:54:32 AM
WFTV will air the Emergency Hearing live on their website at 11:30am

http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Thanks Beach!

Your welcome  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 10:55:33 AM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol


I know, HH, I didn't get ANYTHING done yesterday! Hubby was pizzed at me all day as I was glued to this chair with 6 news windows open! He's at work today though!! Woohoo!   ::MonkeyDance:: i really do have to get some stuff done, I'll be in & out  ::MonkeyTongue::

By the way, my DH & I will be married 30 years in April, so he knows I don't listen to him!!!   ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyTongue::


Yeah,yeah,let'em bitch.They are going to anyway,right? Although I have to say Hubby was asking alot of questions last night after they had it all over the news.
He ask me if I was going to get anything done today.....I told him "Absolutely".I'm gonna finish ruining my eyes and drink all the coffee I can hold.  ::MonkeyCool::
I love it, I always have my vauum out with my swiffer duster hanging from it, it looks like I've been very busy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 10:56:33 AM
dont know if anyone has seen this or not but take a look

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD9517QN00

Bold statement there by AP:

"ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A medical examiner found evidence among a child's remains that link them to the home of a missing toddler, the county sheriff said Friday, offering the strongest indication yet that the remains may be those of Caylee Anthony."

No details given though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 10:56:47 AM
dont know if anyone has seen this or not but take a look

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD9517QN00


I hadn't seen that article before.  Thanks!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 10:57:08 AM
SNIPPED FROM OS>>

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

This monkey face says it all  ::MonkeyRoll::

butt the hell out Kidfinders you bunch of bleeping crooks.

sorry. A little residual anger there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
Wow.... Do you think the Anthony's might end but being arrested for a cover up?

I have had a vision since early Sept of a tall dark man being lead out of a home handcuffed behind his back. It was dark out when this occurs.

I think it will be Lee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 10:58:53 AM
I am listening (no video offered today) to http://www.cfnews13.com/Services/ListenLive/Default.aspx

They are giving updates as they occur.

If anyone is interested in listening.

I plane to switch to http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html for live coverage of the hearing at 11:30.

Thanks again, Brandi!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: atlanta_mom on December 12, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 10:59:31 AM
Wow.... Do you think the Anthony's might end but being arrested for a cover up?

I have had a vision since early Sept of a tall dark man being lead out of a home handcuffed behind his back. It was dark out when this occurs.

I think it will be Lee.
I think you may be on to something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:00:31 AM
WFTV will air the Emergency Hearing live on their website at 11:30am

http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Thanks Beach!

Your welcome  ::MonkeyWink::

Yes, thanks beach!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Anninflorida on December 12, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
I just couldn't get little Caylee off my mind last night.  There were so many people in this big world that would have taken that baby and have given her nothing but love for the rest of her little life. For the rest of her life, CA will have to share the guilt of this baby's death with her daughter.  KC should never have been forced into the role of motherhood.  This is by no means an attempted excuse for KC's actions but rather  a sad truth.  If CA wanted to raise little Caylee as her child, she should have done so....legally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:00:56 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:01:46 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18262763/index.html

Has anyone watched this video of them removing stuff from the house?You can see they took the brushes that you clean out you dryer lint hoses with also at one point one of the LE push on a bag to fit it in the trunk and it looks like a blanket of comforter pop out the top,that happens about 3:48 in ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:02:38 AM
Edit. Originally the bag was submerged in water, but the area dried out, and that is why it was visible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.

Yes, me too. The remains were in a plastic bag, probably sealed, and submerged under water.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Anninflorida on December 12, 2008, 11:03:44 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci

If the body was in a sealed bag, under water, the odor would have been contained...correct?  When the water subsided and the bag was exposed to air, most of the flesh and organs were already decomposed.  At least I think that's correct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:03:51 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?
This is the first time I have heard about a bomb.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:04:11 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.

IMO there wasn't anyone close enough to smell anything.  The map they show on alot of the websites is incorrect.  I know this because they had a reporter right accross the street from where the body was found.  My map below is correct. 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/turnoff.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 11:04:47 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Translation:  We will no longer have a stand up to beg for donations.  We will dismantle the moving billboard which is costing us money anyway.  The sham is over, we have scammed all we can from this MP case.

Exactly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?
This is the first time I have heard about a bomb.

I think those kids are FOS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:05:09 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:05:24 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?


Thanks for that HidingMonkey.  You would definitely think they would have said more about a bomb being found.  It sounds like they just made something up to keep it quiet.  A bomb is pretty serious, especially, like you said, near a school!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:05:25 AM
I'm still in shock how close to the home Caylee was. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
  IMO I don't think the smell would come out if the bag was tied up securely.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
I see monkeys are busy again today.  Think in terms of small when you try to guess as to what they found in the bag.  That duct tape will be a treasure trove of evidence.   Hopefully, it will have epithelial cells from her body, hair, blood, fingerprints, etc.  The vacuums and things removed from the Anthony's house tells me they are looking for "small" things....bugs..maggots...to match what was found in the trunk and on the remains. A certain kind of plant or foliage that may have been attached to other places inside the bag.  It would go a long way to proving she was at the Anthony's after she died.  Sand that is particular to the back yard or even consistent with only particular areas of Orlando. And let's not forget this...jewelry....was Caylee's ears pierced?  Was she wearing a ring or necklace?  Photos of what she was wearing, etc.

Yes I too belive all of our hearts and desires for her to be found, we answered by the divine!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyWink::

CSI was looking for something of substance that could be matched.  The duct tape is what I am thinking.  All they need is something that was also wrapped in duct tape from the garage.  If it does not match then they have to obtain duct tape from other places such as Tony's or whoever she may have borrowed things from.  LE is playing catch up trying to find what matches what, but I feel sure they have a pretty good handle on things at this point. 

As for Casey...no sympathy from me...she did what she did. The LE had already taken the death penalty off the table. Their evidence was sketchy to prove first degree murder.  Then the unimaginable happened.....God intervened!

I really do believe God intervened, too. I believe that it was all of the collective love, hope, prayers, and concern that everyone had for darling Caylee that finally broke through. Ironically, I prayed so hard to St. Jude (the Saint of the Impossible) the night before this finding happened -- just prayed that the truth would come out and Caylee would finally receive the dignity of a proper burial and justice for what happened to her. I still cry every time I see her sing "You Are My Sunshine." She is an angel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:05:39 AM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

anyone know if these cams are live or not?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:05:54 AM
They took a regular vac
A large shop vac
A full size carpet cleaner
and a smaill carpet "spot" cleaner...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Anninflorida on December 12, 2008, 11:06:14 AM
On NG, night before last, LP made a comment about LE already having a body.  Did anyone else catch that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:06:23 AM
I'm still in shock how close to the home Caylee was. ::MonkeyShocked::

Casey said "In my gut, she is close to home"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 11:07:10 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Translation:  We will no longer have a stand up to beg for donations.  We will dismantle the moving billboard which is costing us money anyway.  The sham is over, we have scammed all we can from this MP case.

Exactly

Looks like they can't get $'s off of Caylee or Jennifer Kesse any more ... what will they do. Its on to another child search of which they will have nothing to do with the outcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
On NG, night before last, LP made a comment about LE already having a body.  Did anyone else catch that?

Yes, but I think he was just blowing hot air at the time.  LP likes to see peoples reactions to what he says, IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 11:07:37 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"


Translation:  We will no longer have a stand up to beg for donations.  We will dismantle the moving billboard which is costing us money anyway.  The sham is over, we have scammed all we can from this MP case.

An excellent translation imo, Klaas.     :smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary Ann on December 12, 2008, 11:07:42 AM
That area is extremely thickly wooded. That is why it was not seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.

Yes, me too. The remains were in a plastic bag, probably sealed, and submerged under water.

Was it placed in water or was it the water from the storms? I wonder if there was something there to weight it down. Any pavers removed from the house/yard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blaze on December 12, 2008, 11:08:38 AM
Caylee not having cloths on would tell me that she got something all over the cloths and removed them.  Could it have been vomit from KC's oding Caylee or maybe blood?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:09:22 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

goodnmad - I just like that you say what a lot of us are thinking!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:09:26 AM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam out front of the Anthonys house

(http://198.170.125.140/webcams/mobile1/mobilecam1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:09:45 AM
They took a regular vac
A large shop vac
A full size carpet cleaner
and a smaill carpet "spot" cleaner...

someone cleaned out that trunk ... and depending on the manner of death perhaps cleaned other items as well. Now the question is who. Casey? LeE? George and/or Cindy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 11:10:17 AM
Gosh you "guys" are fast! 

Just a side note...Maybe the Anthony's can leave that that poor girl and her family in the photograph at the Orlando Mall alone now!

Lovinlife


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:11:04 AM
This also looks like it's in the area:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

(http://198.170.125.140/webcams/mobile2/mobilecam2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:12:57 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.
They must have taken the fence down, I don't see it either, and it would seem strange to climb a fence to pee in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:13:08 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

It might have been a temporary construction fence or something. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:14:03 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

the video where the teen got footage of the recovery from his house. I saw a chain link fence at the back of his house. Not sure what channel it was on. Maybe that is the fence, blocking the area form the homes but not from the road. Or it could have just been his fence.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Good question though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 11:14:05 AM
It looks like I'll be spending some time watching the webcam, thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:14:15 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

I was wondering that, too!  Does anyone know? Did anyone see a fence still there? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 11:14:44 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Anninflorida on December 12, 2008, 11:14:51 AM
I was very unhappy with Greta's questioning of LP last night.  I can definitely understand anyone that had been involved in this case feeling the "need" to come back to Orlando to put some closure to this case.  My best friends hubby is a retired detective and he says the worst thing in the world is working a homicide case when a child is involved.  He says those are the cases that make LE stay awake at night, as most of them have children of their own and can closely relate.  LP was the one person, despite some of his personality flaws, that was willing to keep searching for Caylee.  I just thought Greta was a real bitch last night when questioning his motives about coming back to Orlando.  Personally, I don't think Greta has been the same since SP lost the election...lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:15:31 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

It might have been a temporary construction fence or something. 

That makes sense. They just said it was "fenced off" I think. Hadn't thought of that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 11:15:45 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

Wow.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 11:16:35 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Now that was funny. Where do we send the bail money...better yet...we will call LP to get you out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:17:05 AM
I was very unhappy with Greta's questioning of LP last night.  I can definitely understand anyone that had been involved in this case feeling the "need" to come back to Orlando to put some closure to this case.  My best friends hubby is a retired detective and he says the worst thing in the world is working a homicide case when a child is involved.  He says those are the cases that make LE stay awake at night, as most of them have children of their own and can closely relate.  LP was the one person, despite some of his personality flaws, that was willing to keep searching for Caylee.  I just thought Greta was a real bitch last night when questioning his motives about coming back to Orlando. Personally, I don't think Greta has been the same since SP lost the election...lol!

I didn't see it. But really, what purpose does that serve? He obviously did not murder the child. Question Casey's motives, her parents, her brother. Sheesh!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Yes I noticed that too...I wonder if they are checking them for certain chemicals, like checking them against the chemicals found in the trunk..Covering all their bases I think...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 11:17:32 AM
I was very unhappy with Greta's questioning of LP last night.  I can definitely understand anyone that had been involved in this case feeling the "need" to come back to Orlando to put some closure to this case.  My best friends hubby is a retired detective and he says the worst thing in the world is working a homicide case when a child is involved.  He says those are the cases that make LE stay awake at night, as most of them have children of their own and can closely relate.  LP was the one person, despite some of his personality flaws, that was willing to keep searching for Caylee.  I just thought Greta was a real bitch last night when questioning his motives about coming back to Orlando.  Personally, I don't think Greta has been the same since SP lost the election...lol!

ITA Ann, IMO LP was very moved by this case, probably more so than he originally bargained for!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 11:17:48 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

It might have been a temporary construction fence or something. 

There was a neighbor next to the woods where body was found, that was interviewed on camera and there was a chain link fence in front of him.  It seemed to stop up a ways from where the scene was.  You can see it in this picture and it does appear to end.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 11:17:59 AM
Okay, I have a strange question.

Tim says that the area where the body was found was underwater the first time they searched. The second time, it was fenced off. That was just last month.

I don't see any fence now. What happened to the fence? If there is a fence, did the utility worker climb a fence?

The fence thing confuses me. Not an important issue, but just wondering.

It might have been a temporary construction fence or something. 

I thought I heard yesterday that there was a new housing development going up in that area. Not sure which station said that but I did hear something like that yesterday by one of the reporters. Maybe that has something to do with the fence being there at that time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 11:18:14 AM
On NG, night before last, LP made a comment about LE already having a body.  Did anyone else catch that?

Yes, but I think he was just blowing hot air at the time.  LP likes to see peoples reactions to what he says, IMO. 

IIRC he said I wouldnt be surprised if they did already have the body.
I know he likes to throw things out there but most have been somewhat true he was the one who said casey said they didnt even find clothes yet and sure enough she had no clothes.  I think with even having been on the inside but with casey not saying much and CA and GA living in denial  I applaud him for looking (whatever his motives) and we are all still speculating off of what we are limited to  knowing 

I kinda felt bad greta was giving him a hard time about coming back to fl  for a memorial if I was able to I would go to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3babiesmommy on December 12, 2008, 11:18:33 AM
I am sickened at how the A's continuously betray Caylee.  She loved them unconditionally and they can't give her that love back.  It is time they stand up for Caylee and not book a LKL appearance.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hiding Monkey on December 12, 2008, 11:18:46 AM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?


Thanks for that HidingMonkey.  You would definitely think they would have said more about a bomb being found.  It sounds like they just made something up to keep it quiet.  A bomb is pretty serious, especially, like you said, near a school!
  Well I can tell you that if I had kids across the street I'd be wanting answers on this.  The kids may be FOS Klass but LE would be able to discuss if questioned.  I just really think something might be up with this being so close to where they found the remains, if this is true.  IMO its something to be questioned...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
wftv link is active for hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:19:25 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Did her evil-bitchness spray the remains with pesticide while she was in the trunk???

I am afraid to hear the more disgusting info NeJame mentioned. My lord, I am disgusted enough as it is. Have been since "day one."  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 11:19:29 AM
Quietmonkey I flip flop on George and Lee all the time...LOL

This whole family is "unusual" to say the least..

Me too..LOL....And wouldn't it be something if the only relatives not eventually indicted for something are the two sets of elderly parents and Cindy's brother ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:19:44 AM
Guys has it been posted that they found clothing not far from where the remains were found?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:19:56 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:20:18 AM
Today - yes I thought about that fence as well.  Could be that Tim Miller was thinking about that side of the road.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:20:48 AM
Guys has it been posted that they found clothing not far from where the remains were found?

Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 11:21:14 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Goodness, I just took a look at our shop vac...did you know that stuff from years ago is still in that canister?  I have emptied that thing several times since we moved here over 25 years ago...so yes, things stay in those vacs for a long time....don't anyone ask what I found...it was really dirty in that vac.  I hope LE never comes to my house...they would be here for days and think all I ever vacuumed out of my car was dog hair.  Gosh, that dog has been gone for years...I wonder if I could get her cloned now?  I really loved that dog.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on December 12, 2008, 11:23:22 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465647,00.html

Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues in Caylee Anthony Case
Thursday, December 11, 2008

The plastic bag and duct tape reportedly found with the remains of a child's body in Orlando, Fla., could help tie the unidentified skeleton to missing toddler Caylee Anthony, a forensic pathologist tells FOXNews.com.

The remains, found Thursday by a utility worker less than half a mile from Caylee's home, have yet to be identified, but investigators will be searching the scene for "a treasure trove of forensic evidence," FOX News contributor Michael Baden said.

Click here for photos.

Pathologists should be able to identify the body quickly from dental records, Baden said, and the plastic and duct tape could provide additional vital clues, including fingerprints. They could also provide clues to how the child died, and to who dumped the body.

"The beauty of duct tape — no matter rain, snow, sleet — that fingerprint will stay there," Baden said, adding that if someone used their teeth to rip it, it could yield DNA evidence too.

"Right now, they would be looking at all the contents of the plastic bag and they would be looking at the plastic bag itself," Baden said. "The fingerprints on the outside often get dissolved away by weather, but the inside of the plastic bag, the fingerprints would be there."

Two-year-old Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 16. Her mother, Casey Anthony, 22, has been charged with first-degree murder of her daughter, child abuse, aggravated manslaughter and four counts of lying to investigators about her disappearance.

Evidence found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire showed a decomposing body had been kept there. Strands of Caylee's hair were found, as were traces of chloroform.

"One important thing that I’ve hoped they’ve done already is take an air sample from the bag because they found chloroform in the vehicle and the cause of death still has to be determined," Baden said.

Finding chloroform could poke holes in the prosecution's first-degree murder case, if this is Caylee's body, he said.

"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.

If dental records cannot be used to identify the body, DNA evidence will be used to identify the skeletal remains. The remains will also be examined for signs of trauma.

"If there are fractures to the skeleton, then that goes again to first degree -- intentional suffering on the part of the baby," Baden said. "They can tell the baby suffered."








I'm crossing my fingers that gloves weren't worn so they can get a finger print or prints..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:23:55 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Now that was funny. Where do we send the bail money...better yet...we will call LP to get you out. 

Just send it to Walletfinders *cough* Kidfinders.  ::MonkeyTongue::

As hard as it is, I will try to go to my happy place, at least my not-beating-anyone-down place. It's odd that no one in my personal life understands why I care so much. They say, yeah it's sad. Yeah, she was cute. Yeah, her mom killed her. And here I am getting bent out of shape over it. Crap like this needs to stop and then I will stop getting so upset.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
wftv link is active for hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

Thanks for the update. I see the live camera is in front of the Anthony's and so I am wondering ... who's cars are in the driveway???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:26:20 AM
I hope the Judge says no to JB today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: BooMonkey on December 12, 2008, 11:26:34 AM
I was very unhappy with Greta's questioning of LP last night.  I can definitely understand anyone that had been involved in this case feeling the "need" to come back to Orlando to put some closure to this case.  My best friends hubby is a retired detective and he says the worst thing in the world is working a homicide case when a child is involved.  He says those are the cases that make LE stay awake at night, as most of them have children of their own and can closely relate.  LP was the one person, despite some of his personality flaws, that was willing to keep searching for Caylee.  I just thought Greta was a real bitch last night when questioning his motives about coming back to Orlando.  Personally, I don't think Greta has been the same since SP lost the election...lol!

She's like Leo Marvin shoving Bob out of the way after he teaches Siggy how to dive. He shoves Bob into the water stating "I'll take it from here!". I think Greta now wants a piece of the action. (Movie: What about Bob?)

It drives me nuts when these reporters or tv/radio celebs try to tell us about the case and don't even have their facts straight! Geez read the Monkey board!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:27:04 AM
Quote
Finding chloroform could poke holes in the prosecution's first-degree murder case, if this is Caylee's body, he said.

"If it is chloroform as the cause of death, then it could be an accidental overdose and would not be capital, first-degree murder, because sometimes chloroform is used as a babysitter, to put a baby to sleep while mom goes out partying," Baden said.[\quote]

WTH? Is this true? It is my understanding that if Caylee died from a chloroform od this is not considered ACCIDENTAL under the law. Isn't this a felony in itself and if a death occurs during commission of said felony it makes it a captial murder 1st degree? Am I just wrong?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mammy on December 12, 2008, 11:27:30 AM
wftv link is active for hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

Thanks for the update. I see the live camera is in front of the Anthony's and so I am wondering ... who's cars are in the driveway???

Looks like the A's vehicles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 12, 2008, 11:27:39 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Yes I noticed that too...I wonder if they are checking them for certain chemicals, like checking them against the chemicals found in the trunk..Covering all their bases I think...

I wonder if stupid KC attempted to speed up decomposition by spraying her with a chemical?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:28:02 AM
i hope prosecutors have preliminary results back from the ME's office and can confirm whether it's her or not......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
wftv link is active for hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

Thanks for the update. I see the live camera is in front of the Anthony's and so I am wondering ... who's cars are in the driveway???

IIRC 4 runner is Cindy's not sure of other one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 11:30:23 AM
On NG, night before last, LP made a comment about LE already having a body.  Did anyone else catch that?

I asked yesterday afternoon when I got on here a long time after the news broke about the find when the bag was discovered. I heard Padilla say that on NG and her totally ignore the remark, and I wondered if he had advanced info or just tossed out the comment like he often does. Apparently, it was just him blurting out something since the meter reader didn't discover the bag until long afterward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 12, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
what a sick bitch.

if she used chloroform as a "babysitter"
why would there be duct tape around the skull??

Who else would have killed Caylee if not Casey?
Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 11:31:18 AM

KidFinders Network suspends search for Caylee 10:20 a.m.: KidFinders -- the group helping the Anthonys look for Caylee -- announced that it's suspending its search for Caylee due to the recent developments. The organization says it has not given up on Caylee and will continue to update its Web site (www.helpfindcaylee.com and www.kidfindersnetwork.com).

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


I didn't realize Kidfinders ever actually searched for Caylee.....how can the search be "suspended"



LOL - I guess they have to keep up the pretense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
court coverage now: http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
I am sickened at how the A's continuously betray Caylee.  She loved them unconditionally and they can't give her that love back.  It is time they stand up for Caylee and not book a LKL appearance.  

I agree but at the same time I wonder what they will say. This is NOT Caylee (if results ar enot back). If this IS Caylee, Casey did not do it. What can they say at this point? They should crawl into a hole and shut up perhaps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 11:32:52 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!  Geeze, what a sad night.  I am glad that it appears little Caylee has been found, I hung on to a wee bit of hope that maybe (against all odds) she might one day come home alive.  Poor baby!

I do not usually get into theories, but there are a few oddities that make me want to speculate.

1.  Remember the find in that same area where there was a rope sticking out of the ground where something was buried?  I believe LE officially said someone had buried a dog there.  The interview released of the 2 people who had discovered it said, at the end, "...and you did not speak to the media about this, right?".  No one ever came forward and stated "OH, that was my dog I buried".

2.  Tim Miller had started searching that area and stopped because much of it was under water and he was afraid if something was there, driving 4wheelers and people walking over it might disturb the body and evidence so the search was stopped until it dried out.  It just dried out enough this week to where they thought they might be able to search it again.  Tim said that a chain link fence was erected around that area shortly after that.

3.  It was reported that there were utility people in there trying to unstop a drainage pipe to further drain the area.  It was one of those utility people who discovered the body  Rains were expected to move in again yesterday (and indeed it did rain).

Here is my theory.  I wonder if LE did in fact discover something buried - related to Caylee - in that hole with the rope sticking out of it?  LE told the people who discovered the hole/rope not to speak to the media and made sure they had not spoken to the media.  Since they could not recover a body at that time without compromising the scene, they ordered a chain link fence to be erected around the area.

Tim stated that just this week it had dried up enough to go in there and search the area again.  Hard rains were expected to come in again to that area yesterday.

I think those "utility workers" might have been in there at the direction of LE (or actually were LE) to search the area for the body.

I believe LE was almost certain that the body was in there and that is one reason that Tim suddenly called of the search the last time he was here.  

Anyway, this is just my look at what might turn out to be the reality of this find.

One other thing, that guy yesterday who was wearing those white sun glasses and always supported KC?  Besides being a "drama queen", I really wonder about his involvement in this case.  He just makes my HINKEY meter go off the charts!

  


I think you may be on to something.  It sure sounds like a logical explanation.   If what the boys who claim to have first found something there are telling the truth, and the police said that what they found was a bomb, like in explosive, don't you think that would have a least made the local news?  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::  IMO, that was just a way to distract from what was really found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 11:32:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,

I am trying to catch up. Read back about 20 cage pages.

I am wondering "IF"  Casey being the " Pathological Liar" that she is .. do you think she has mentally convinced her own self that she was not involved in Caylee's death? That she believes her own lies are the truth? That is the reason why she had a panic attack.

We can all see that Casey has been wallowing in this  New Found Love from her Mother and Father .... in the video tapes of her talking to her parents in jail. You can see that she is gloating with " I am center of my Parents Love" they care that I am eating ucky coleslaw and yadda and Believe every word I say .....

And neither one GA/CA mention Caylee ....they just want to tell Casey How Much they Love her puke blah ....

Now that Caylee ( we hope this is her) has been found, Do you think that The Ants are going to continue this circus of lies and denial. That they will say even if they find concrete evidence within their house ... " That Casey had Nothing to Do with it"

That the finger pointing of others will start all over again ?

When the Ants do such things and say such things that are Obvious to everyone ..as LP Said " Cindyisms" last night on NG. When they contort their past statements over and over ...etc.
I think it makes them look guilty or at best suspicious that they were involved after Caylee's Death. I wonder what more has to be put into their faces to make them break and finally own some of this.

I am wondering if they are going to throw in at one point the " Insanity Plea" depending upon the next few days of how Casey acts....
Just thoughts

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
what a sick bitch.

if she used chloroform as a "babysitter"
why would there be duct tape around the skull??

Who else would have killed Caylee if not Casey?
Any thoughts?


I had kind brought this up yesterday. I thnk it is going to be really interesting to see the cause of death now. I would think if she was duct tape that she suffocated from it which made me wonder if the chloroform was used to clean out the trunk. If that was the case then it would also explain why the hair had chlorofrom on it. From the reports they said there were a lot of ammounts of chloroform in the trunk of the car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:35:49 AM
whoever keeps "ahem"ing in the courtroom needs to stop because it's effing annoying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 11:35:49 AM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.
Maybe he was looking for a toilet paper


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
Wow, KC has more money than me!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Me and you both QuietMonkey.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:36:45 AM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Yes I noticed that too...I wonder if they are checking them for certain chemicals, like checking them against the chemicals found in the trunk..Covering all their bases I think...

I wonder if stupid KC attempted to speed up decomposition by spraying her with a chemical?

I've heard of people applying lime. And in one case with a burial it actually preserved the body. At this point, I put nothing past her. She is one evil bitch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
Klaas thanks for posting all the updates!

Was Tim released from the hospital or did he leave on his own? He didn't look too good on TV last night and now he is at the scene searching. God Please Take Care of Tim Miller

I thought he looked better than he has in months. I hope he is doing better. It just shows his selflessness and dedication.

Actually,  I thought he looked good too -  [ he does have the kindest face ].


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JOLfan on December 12, 2008, 11:37:40 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

Don't worry...I'll donate to your bail fund! LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:38:01 AM
whoever keeps "ahem"ing in the courtroom needs to stop because it's effing annoying.

As is Butfuz's face. He needs to just go away, back to his prnguin lair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Truth Seeker on December 12, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!  Geeze, what a sad night.  I am glad that it appears little Caylee has been found, I hung on to a wee bit of hope that maybe (against all odds) she might one day come home alive.  Poor baby!

I do not usually get into theories, but there are a few oddities that make me want to speculate.

1.  Remember the find in that same area where there was a rope sticking out of the ground where something was buried?  I believe LE officially said someone had buried a dog there.  The interview released of the 2 people who had discovered it said, at the end, "...and you did not speak to the media about this, right?".  No one ever came forward and stated "OH, that was my dog I buried".

2.  Tim Miller had started searching that area and stopped because much of it was under water and he was afraid if something was there, driving 4wheelers and people walking over it might disturb the body and evidence so the search was stopped until it dried out.  It just dried out enough this week to where they thought they might be able to search it again.  Tim said that a chain link fence was erected around that area shortly after that.

3.  It was reported that there were utility people in there trying to unstop a drainage pipe to further drain the area.  It was one of those utility people who discovered the body  Rains were expected to move in again yesterday (and indeed it did rain).

Here is my theory.  I wonder if LE did in fact discover something buried - related to Caylee - in that hole with the rope sticking out of it?  LE told the people who discovered the hole/rope not to speak to the media and made sure they had not spoken to the media.  Since they could not recover a body at that time without compromising the scene, they ordered a chain link fence to be erected around the area.

Tim stated that just this week it had dried up enough to go in there and search the area again.  Hard rains were expected to come in again to that area yesterday.

I think those "utility workers" might have been in there at the direction of LE (or actually were LE) to search the area for the body.

I believe LE was almost certain that the body was in there and that is one reason that Tim suddenly called of the search the last time he was here.  

Anyway, this is just my look at what might turn out to be the reality of this find.

One other thing, that guy yesterday who was wearing those white sun glasses and always supported KC?  Besides being a "drama queen", I really wonder about his involvement in this case.  He just makes my HINKEY meter go off the charts!

  


I think you may be on to something.  It sure sounds like a logical explanation.   If what the boys who claim to have first found something there are telling the truth, and the police said that what they found was a bomb, like in explosive, don't you think that would have a least made the local news?  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::  IMO, that was just a way to distract from what was really found.

I think what the poster meant when he said it turned out to be a BOMB was it did not pan out to be of any relavence.  Not really a bomb.  I think it was said it was a dog that a neighbor buried, but we never heard any interview with a neighbor who buried it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 11:39:23 AM
Brandi, (I think it was you) can you post the side by side of JB and the Penguin?  I could use a good laugh.

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:39:38 AM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/cam2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: RoxiBalboa on December 12, 2008, 11:39:51 AM
I can't read thru this all to see if its been said, but FYI, looks like CourtTv is there for the trial this morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:40:34 AM
Brandi, (I think it was you) can you post the side by side of JB and the Penguin?  I could use a good laugh.

TIA

Wasn't me, sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:40:39 AM
Geraldo is there  ::MonkeyRoll::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/cam3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
whoever keeps "ahem"ing in the courtroom needs to stop because it's effing annoying.

As is Butfuz's face. He needs to just go away, back to his prnguin lair.

For some reason, I am getting video and no sound, so please, some kind monkey paraphrase what is being said?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:41:39 AM
Already Bozo Baez didn't add the crime scene in the motion.......did he really pass the bar exam?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:42:07 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Hearing also I think this has better sound than on wftv

at least on my computer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 11:42:09 AM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

anyone know if these cams are live or not?

So the A's are back in their home?  I see Cindy's car (and Geraldo) in the first webcam.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 11:42:26 AM
Brandi, (I think it was you) can you post the side by side of JB and the Penguin?  I could use a good laugh.

TIA

It was Dolce here is 1/2 of it. The more attractive half.

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k395/rebel_joker_2010/BATMAN%20VILLIANS/devito.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:42:34 AM
whoever keeps "ahem"ing in the courtroom needs to stop because it's effing annoying.

As is Butfuz's face. He needs to just go away, back to his prnguin lair.

For some reason, I am getting video and no sound, so please, some kind monkey paraphrase what is being said?

My sound is horrible too...if you have court tv, it's live on there as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:42:50 AM
OMG!! Baez has a woman on a plan coming to FL already BEFORE the judge has even agreed to let her observe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:43:01 AM
Did she just say body was partially skeletilized(SP)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 12, 2008, 11:43:09 AM
Thanks Willen.

So the green sprayer like thing that was removed from the home may have dispensed chloroform to clean the trunk...?

Did either of the Ants say they cleaned out the trunk? ( I thought Cindy said she removed some items...)

Who cleans with chloroform??? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 11:43:30 AM
I apologize if the following article has already been posted.  I am just catching up and ... so much to catch up on.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

If Strickland is the residing judge ... I have a feeling that Jose Baez is going to receive a favorable ruling on his motions in the hearing that is currently taking place.

Strickland has ruled favorable for the defence on almost every motion since way back ... since Casey Anthony was afforded the priviledge of spending six hours a day in the Baez's office while under home confinement.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Janet

_____

Search Of Anthony House Ends, Evidence Removed
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 11:18 am EST December 12, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Investigators said they concluded their search of the Anthony home Friday morning after serving a search warrant Thursday night and removing several items. The search came after a child's remains were found near their house Thursday morning.

Investigators overnight pulled several boxes and bags of evidence from the Anthony family home (watch raw video). The conclusion of the search means the Anthonys could now return home, but it was unclear if or when that would happen.

Friday morning, Sheriff Kevin Beary appeared on Good Morning America to discuss Thursday's findings (watch Beary on GMA).

"I know you can't go into detail, but there was something that was found that made you want to search the grandparents' home?" GMA's Robin Roberts asked Beary.

"Absolutely," Beary said.

Beary said investigators searched the home early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked it to the house." He would not say what clues were found.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

Beary said his investigators and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

Asked if he believed if the remains are Caylee, Beary said: "I think it's a good possibility, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis."

There are no other similar missing-child cases in the area.

"I say my prayers every day and one of them is to solve this case," said Beary, who is retiring in January. "I just hope that we solve the case on my watch."

Friday morning, deputies, the medical examiner, crime scene investigators and Tim Miller of EquuSearch, who had looked for Caylee Anthony previously, began combing through the wooded area where the remains were discovered, in search of more evidence.

Investigators, Friday morning, were cutting through brush and tree limbs near the scene of the remains discovery looking for fibers and hair. Blue tents were erected and a white sheet was laid out near the search area, likely for investigators to place potential evidence once discovered.

On Thursday night, Eyewitness News was at the Anthonys' home in Orange County as deputies spent hours inside processing the scene. Investigators removed at least two vacuum cleaners, notebooks and papers from the house on Hopespring Drive.

Neighbors said that, after Thursday's gruesome discovery of a child's remains nearby, they expected the crowds, but they don't believe there will be any protesting.

"I think it's going to be different, like showing their support for the family and everything," said neighbor Joyce Dickens.

Meanwhile, Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, filed an emergency motion (read motion) Thursday, because he wants to be present for any forensics testing on the remains. The court hearing to discuss the motion will be held at 11:30am Friday (Hearing will be shown live on WFTV.com).

http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 11:43:33 AM
Geraldo is there  ::MonkeyRoll::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/cam3.jpg)

GAG ME WITH A SPOON!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 11:43:38 AM
Brandi, (I think it was you) can you post the side by side of JB and the Penguin?  I could use a good laugh.

TIA

It was Dolce here is 1/2 of it. The more attractive half.

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k395/rebel_joker_2010/BATMAN%20VILLIANS/devito.jpg)

Thanks GNM! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 11:44:04 AM
WTF is paying for these experts?!?!?!?!?!?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:44:04 AM
whoever keeps "ahem"ing in the courtroom needs to stop because it's effing annoying.

As is Butfuz's face. He needs to just go away, back to his prnguin lair.

For some reason, I am getting video and no sound, so please, some kind monkey paraphrase what is being said?

My sound is horrible too...if you have court tv, it's live on there as well.

Thanks! I am watching (and hearing it) on TV now :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:44:29 AM
Did she just say body was partially skeletilized(SP)

Yes she did. Goes to show how much she knows. I don't think that is true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

Don't worry...I'll donate to your bail fund! LOL.

I don't think I will be able to donate to your bail fund because I am going to be sitting right there in a cell with you.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 11:45:08 AM
Did she just say body was partially skeletilized(SP)

Who is paying all these people that are being flown in for forensics? Dr Lee is not enough ? I dont understand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
Sound was just fixed on WFTV


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:45:21 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:45:29 AM
I am watching this hearing.  Obviously, the defense knows it's Caylee.  Since the body had not been identified yet, KC's defense should not have ANY part of it!  WHat if it isn't even Caylee?  No one knows for sure yet!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 11:46:25 AM
I was very unhappy with Greta's questioning of LP last night.  I can definitely understand anyone that had been involved in this case feeling the "need" to come back to Orlando to put some closure to this case.  My best friends hubby is a retired detective and he says the worst thing in the world is working a homicide case when a child is involved.  He says those are the cases that make LE stay awake at night, as most of them have children of their own and can closely relate.  LP was the one person, despite some of his personality flaws, that was willing to keep searching for Caylee.  I just thought Greta was a real bitch last night when questioning his motives about coming back to Orlando.  Personally, I don't think Greta has been the same since SP lost the election...lol!

ITA Ann, IMO LP was very moved by this case, probably more so than he originally bargained for!

I'm in agreement with both of you...I felt very sad for LP last night.  I thought he looked and sounded disturbed by the day's events.  I know he inserted himself into this case, but I think he came to love Caylee and wanted justice for her.  I was glad to see Tim Miller looking and sounding better than in the past...but LP worried me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 11:46:34 AM
Did she just say body was partially skeletilized(SP)

Who is paying all these people that are being flown in for forensics? Dr Lee is not enough ? I dont understand

They are bring in a forensic endomolgist (SP) basically a bug guy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 11:46:46 AM
HEARING TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW!!!

Search Of Anthony House Ends, Evidence Removed
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 11:18 am EST December 12, 2008


Meanwhile, Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, filed an emergency motion (read motion) Thursday, because he wants to be present for any forensics testing on the remains. The court hearing to discuss the motion will be held at 11:30am Friday (Hearing will be shown live on WFTV.com).  

http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html


Motion:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18257628/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:46:53 AM
I am watching this hearing.  Obviously, the defense knows it's Caylee.  Since the body had not been identified yet, KC's defense should not have ANY part of it!  WHat if it isn't even Caylee?  No one knows for sure yet!!!

Exactly. I really hope this Judge denys everything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 11:47:27 AM
Wow, KC has more money than me!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Me and you both QuietMonkey.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That is quite an expensive expert list. Where is all this money coming from to pay for them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:47:47 AM
I am watching this hearing.  Obviously, the defense knows it's Caylee.  Since the body had not been identified yet, KC's defense should not have ANY part of it!  WHat if it isn't even Caylee?  No one knows for sure yet!!!

This woman for the county just said the same thing that you did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:47:48 AM
I am watching this hearing.  Obviously, the defense knows it's Caylee.  Since the body had not been identified yet, KC's defense should not have ANY part of it! WHat if it isn't even Caylee?  No one knows for sure yet!!!

Right. That is what the SA is arguing now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 11:47:51 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!  Geeze, what a sad night.  I am glad that it appears little Caylee has been found, I hung on to a wee bit of hope that maybe (against all odds) she might one day come home alive.  Poor baby!

I do not usually get into theories, but there are a few oddities that make me want to speculate.

1.  Remember the find in that same area where there was a rope sticking out of the ground where something was buried?  I believe LE officially said someone had buried a dog there.  The interview released of the 2 people who had discovered it said, at the end, "...and you did not speak to the media about this, right?".  No one ever came forward and stated "OH, that was my dog I buried".

2.  Tim Miller had started searching that area and stopped because much of it was under water and he was afraid if something was there, driving 4wheelers and people walking over it might disturb the body and evidence so the search was stopped until it dried out.  It just dried out enough this week to where they thought they might be able to search it again.  Tim said that a chain link fence was erected around that area shortly after that.

3.  It was reported that there were utility people in there trying to unstop a drainage pipe to further drain the area.  It was one of those utility people who discovered the body  Rains were expected to move in again yesterday (and indeed it did rain).

Here is my theory.  I wonder if LE did in fact discover something buried - related to Caylee - in that hole with the rope sticking out of it?  LE told the people who discovered the hole/rope not to speak to the media and made sure they had not spoken to the media.  Since they could not recover a body at that time without compromising the scene, they ordered a chain link fence to be erected around the area.

Tim stated that just this week it had dried up enough to go in there and search the area again.  Hard rains were expected to come in again to that area yesterday.

I think those "utility workers" might have been in there at the direction of LE (or actually were LE) to search the area for the body.

I believe LE was almost certain that the body was in there and that is one reason that Tim suddenly called of the search the last time he was here.  

Anyway, this is just my look at what might turn out to be the reality of this find.

One other thing, that guy yesterday who was wearing those white sun glasses and always supported KC?  Besides being a "drama queen", I really wonder about his involvement in this case.  He just makes my HINKEY meter go off the charts!

  


I think you may be on to something.  It sure sounds like a logical explanation.   If what the boys who claim to have first found something there are telling the truth, and the police said that what they found was a bomb, like in explosive, don't you think that would have a least made the local news?  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::  IMO, that was just a way to distract from what was really found.

I think what the poster meant when he said it turned out to be a BOMB was it did not pan out to be of any relavence.  Not really a bomb.  I think it was said it was a dog that a neighbor buried, but we never heard any interview with a neighbor who buried it.

I also keep thinking that the "utility worker's" find might have been "pre-connected" with LE all along. Just on Tuesday on this board I said that the big Anthony media blitz this week (JB on Today show, Anthonys on LKL) seemed to be "damage control" for a big discovery that was going to be announced this week, and then this happened! It just seems too coincidental.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:47:52 AM
I am watching this hearing.  Obviously, the defense knows it's Caylee.  Since the body had not been identified yet, KC's defense should not have ANY part of it!  WHat if it isn't even Caylee?  No one knows for sure yet!!!



YES!  The state just made that point!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 11:48:08 AM
What is that on her head?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound

Thank you seemeatthebeach.

It has been a while.  I have missed ya.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 11:48:19 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

Don't worry...I'll donate to your bail fund! LOL.

I don't think I will be able to donate to your bail fund because I am going to be sitting right there in a cell with you.  ::MonkeyEek::

Don't worry Monkeys...I'll talk Casually Cool, Klaas & Brandi into publishing a comic book with all their best works from this case and raise bail money that way...don't forget...I'm all about the Numbers..  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:48:51 AM
Seems bozo is more certain the remains are Caylee....what has the skank told him???     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:49:20 AM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 11:49:54 AM
Thanks Willen.

So the green sprayer like thing that was removed from the home may have dispensed chloroform to clean the trunk...?

Did either of the Ants say they cleaned out the trunk? ( I thought Cindy said she removed some items...)

Who cleans with chloroform??? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Some pesticides contain chloroform. I think the bug sprayer was used to get rid of the flies, maggots, etc, in the trunk at one point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:49:57 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 11:50:38 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 11:50:46 AM
Defence did not site any case law to support their motion. Pathetic!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 11:50:50 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

THANK YOU!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 11:51:24 AM
Baez will need to admit that is Caylee at some point.  If the judge grants this request he too knows it is Caylee.  Interesting game of chess going on right now...although it does not matter who gets to checkmate at this point.  If it's Caylee...the game is over...and I think the prosecution won that yesterday. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 11:51:34 AM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Now that was funny. Where do we send the bail money...better yet...we will call LP to get you out. 


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 11:51:35 AM
Okay, What the heck is up with this woman's head? Is she jewish??  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:52:01 AM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.


I hope you're right.  Keep Bozo and company out of there!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 11:52:24 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 11:52:27 AM
Another woman just came on and she said they don't even that a ME could make a pos idenifcation just by the autopsy she said that could possibly only be done by the DNA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 11:52:39 AM
Hi! Got a few minutes at work! Are the court proceedings on live on the internet anywhere? Thanks!

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

THANK YOU!  ::MonkeyWink::

Welcome, and hello!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/holidayblinkie2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:53:01 AM
You're welcome Janet......I had to take a break from this madness. It's nice to hear I was missed....lol

Feeling much better after finding Caylee. She deserves to be laid to rest with dignity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 11:53:32 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound

Thank you seemeatthebeach.

It has been a while.  I have missed ya.

Janet

I can't get it.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Just a box appears where the live stream should be.  There is an X in the left hand top corner.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 11:53:35 AM
Baez will need to admit that is Caylee at some point.  If the judge grants this request he too knows it is Caylee.  Interesting game of chess going on right now...although it does not matter who gets to checkmate at this point.  If it's Caylee...the game is over...and I think the prosecution won that yesterday. 



Very well said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 11:53:54 AM
I think JB should have been studying Florida case law instead of spending afternoons on MySpace w/Casey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 11:54:42 AM
Wow, KC has more money than me!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Me and you both QuietMonkey.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That is quite an expensive expert list. Where is all this money coming from to pay for them?

Sounds like a story to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Desdemona on December 12, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
Hello Monkeys

My heart and thanks go out to Mr. Meter Reader guy whose fate it was to bring blessings and closure to thousands and thousands of us whose souls have been touched by little Caylee.  May he always cherish his role in finding her, and not suffer any troubling thoughts . . . he is an accidental hero, a man divinely placed where he was meant to be at that moment.

God Bless the law enforcement investigators and prosecutors, God Bless all the searchers, God Bless Tim Miller and Leonard Padilla and even (yes) the news reporters -- and now may He guide the minds and the work of those who will bring to light the details from her remains, the site where she lay, and her family's home.

And God Bless and comfort everyone, including all the beautiful and dedicated Monkeys here, who loved Caylee and who seek justice for the heinous atrocity that cut her little life short.

I am ill and have things to do, otherwise I would love to be here all day and night in solidarity with all of the people here who care about Caylee and each other.  But I must tend to my health and to tasks that must be done. 

I want to leave my fellow Monkeys something to think about, but I will post it in a moment, in another post. (This one is already way too long)

Thanks for your indulgence on this, and thank you for your tireless dedication on Caylee's behalf.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:59:07 AM
there has been a tentative identification of the remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:59:12 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound

Thank you seemeatthebeach.

It has been a while.  I have missed ya.

Janet

I can't get it.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Just a box appears where the live stream should be.  There is an X in the left hand top corner.

Janet


http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html

They fixed the sound....hope this works for you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 11:59:25 AM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 11:59:38 AM
DENIED THE MOTION!!! ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
deniiiiiiiiiiiiied!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
OMG!! The defense just said that the hair color and the dental records matched Caylee. Did I just hear that wrong? That woman said that the Sherriff called JB and told them that.


AND they were just denied for the autopsy since no one knows who the body is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 12:00:02 PM
Did you guys hear that woman just say they spoke to Baez if "hair color" ?  That means there is more than just bones in that bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 12:00:03 PM
DENIED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 12:00:04 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Live streaming from FOX......better sound

Thank you seemeatthebeach.

It has been a while.  I have missed ya.

Janet

I can't get it.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Just a box appears where the live stream should be.  There is an X in the left hand top corner.

Janet

Try this one, it's the only one that worked for me:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 12:00:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18262763/index.html

Has anyone watched this video of them removing stuff from the house?You can see they took the brushes that you clean out you dryer lint hoses with also at one point one of the LE push on a bag to fit it in the trunk and it looks like a blanket of comforter pop out the top,that happens about 3:48 in ..


Which A's SUV is sitting in front of the garage door and why?  As I remember, to begin with, the web cam yest. didn't show any vehicle in the driveway.  Then, what's her name came to take care of the dogs and went in thru the garage door.  From what I remember of all of the postings, she was asked to leave, so I assume she would have driven her own vehicle back home.  So, what's with the SUV that has the help find Caylee sign on it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:00:14 PM
DENIED!!!  Woo -hoo!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 12:00:17 PM
There has been a tenative investigation.

Jose was advised yesterday that hair color and teeth size (missed the technical term used) the same as Caylee.  Hair color means hair was there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:00:32 PM
Motion denied, at least until there is a tentative ID


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 12:00:34 PM
does anyone have a link to live coverage of the hearing this morning?

If you have Cable you can turn on to truTv/Court Tv


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
Did you guys hear that woman just say they spoke to Baez if "hair color" ?  That means there is more than just bones in that bag.

I heard it too! You and I posted at the same time and if I am not mistaken did they say something about dental records?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 12:01:13 PM
Tentative ID
typo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CasuallyCool on December 12, 2008, 12:01:18 PM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

Don't worry...I'll donate to your bail fund! LOL.

I don't think I will be able to donate to your bail fund because I am going to be sitting right there in a cell with you.  ::MonkeyEek::

Don't worry Monkeys...I'll talk Casually Cool, Klaas & Brandi into publishing a comic book with all their best works from this case and raise bail money that way...don't forget...I'm all about the Numbers..  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

A belated good morning to all Monkeys.  If you are all about the Numbers, I'm into manipulating figures, especially the female figure -  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: did I just say that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:01:26 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18262763/index.html

Has anyone watched this video of them removing stuff from the house?You can see they took the brushes that you clean out you dryer lint hoses with also at one point one of the LE push on a bag to fit it in the trunk and it looks like a blanket of comforter pop out the top,that happens about 3:48 in ..


Which A's SUV is sitting in front of the garage door and why?  As I remember, to begin with, the web cam yest. didn't show any vehicle in the driveway.  Then, what's her name came to take care of the dogs and went in thru the garage door.  From what I remember of all of the postings, she was asked to leave, so I assume she would have driven her own vehicle back home.  So, what's with the SUV that has the help find Caylee sign on it?

That's Cindy's Toyota 4 Runner


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:01:43 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?


I heard whispering, but could not tell what they said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 12:01:57 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
Is there a tenative ID or not?  I am so confused.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 12:03:03 PM
Did you guys hear that woman just say they spoke to Baez if "hair color" ?  That means there is more than just bones in that bag.

I heard it too! You and I posted at the same time and if I am not mistaken did they say something about dental records?

Yep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 12:03:45 PM
There has been a tenative investigation.

Jose was advised yesterday that hair color and teeth size (missed the technical term used) the same as Caylee.  Hair color means hair was there.
The hair will definitely make it quicker I would think for DNA instead of doing the bone test for DNA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 12:03:51 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Sorry for quoting myself....

When the blonde defence atty said LE called Baez and said the measurements and color of hair, I heard a male voice whisper "Jose Baez  is lying"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 12:03:55 PM
Did you see the look Strickland just gave Baez?  He knows this guy is a bozo! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:03:56 PM
Is there a tenative ID or not?  I am so confused.

No, not an official one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.

Right.  They let the cat out of the bag about knowing it was Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:04:14 PM
Is there a tenative ID or not?  I am so confused.

Not yet, apparently. The motion was denied "at least until there is a tentative ID."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:04:34 PM
I KNEW there had to be something that makes them think that this is Caylee. There is no other reason for them to go the Anthony home and take bags and bags of shit if it wasn't her when they don't even have tentative(sp) ID if its even Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:05:16 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










Me, too...he is Frank George.  Way to go!!  It sounded like he got teared up while talking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
That hair will tell some stories..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:06:25 PM
This hair color thing also explains why they would think the remains are Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 12:07:06 PM
Did you see the look Strickland just gave Baez?  He knows this guy is a bozo! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

i literally LMAO when i saw that  ::MonkeyDance:: Baez is such a fargin' moron and counsel certainly made him look that way today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 12:07:33 PM
Just thought I'd mention Yuri is looking very "fine" as usual ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 12:07:46 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 12:07:51 PM
Poooooor Baez .... lost another one! He is the worst attorney I have ever seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:07:52 PM
TruTV is continuing coverage of the Caylee case right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:07:56 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.

Right.  They let the cat out of the bag about knowing it was Caylee.

Yep, they're pretty much saying they know Caylee is dead.  Bozo has known - the scum!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:08:33 PM
I am sooo thankful that justice will prevail for Caylee Marie Anthony.

Janet

_________


Sheriff: Clues link body to Anthony 
 Last Edited: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 10:03 AM EST 
Created: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 9:11 AM EST


ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- A medical examiner found evidence among a child's remains that link them to the home of a missing toddler,

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said Friday, offering the strongest indication yet that the remains may be those of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Sheriff Beary told NBC's "Today" show that investigators searched the home early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked it to the house." He did not elaborate on what those were.

The remains were found Thursday by a utility worker on a wooded lot less than a half-mile from the house where 3-year-old Caylee lived with her grandparents and her mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony.


Defense team grows

If Linda Kenney-Baden's name sounds familiar, you may recognize her as an author,  trial attorney and legal commentator who has been involved in other high-profile criminal cases.

She recently represented music producer Phil Spector in a murder trial and offered analysis during the controversy surrounding the death of super model Anna Nicole Smith.   Her husband is forensic expert Dr. Michael Baden of the HBO series Autopsy. 

Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com.

"I'm concerned about my client, period.  We are requesting to have access to this information," said Baez. "As it [evidence] is being tested, we would like our people present, especially if it's destructive in nature by the testing."

"There are basically two kinds of test that government and medical investigators will conduct," said FOX 35 Senior Legal Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.  "One is a visual observation of the scene.  The other type of test is on tissue and materials from the contents of the bag." 

Judge Napolitano said those tests can frequently destroy the tissue on which the tests were taken, which gives cause for Baez to file the motion.

"The defense wants to be there to be sure they physically observe the tests, so if the government says, 'we physically tested this bone and here's what it showed us,' then the defense investigators will know, in fact, that it was this bone.  As well, if there is only a small amount of physical evidence that they want to test, they may both need to run their own tests at the same time, because this small amount of whatever it may be -- let's say skin or tissue -- may be gone forever," Napolitano added.

<snipped>

A spokeswoman with the state attorney's office said Thursday that officials wouldn't comment until the investigation was complete.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 12:08:53 PM
there has been a tentative identification of the remains.

who ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
ok, I am for real going to hop on a plane and go to Hopespring Drive and bitch slap these people in the background of the news videos talking on their cell phones and smiling like "can you see me on TV?" Well, now your buddy can see you getting slapped by me. And while I'm there I will kick the "Kabbalah Bowls" dude's azz and break his white sunnglasses in half while he sobs. Then I will go to the jail and give Casey another panic attack. Then I will promptly be arrested and y'all can read about me. Phew. I feel better now. Must get to that anger management class.  :smt092

Don't worry...I'll donate to your bail fund! LOL.

I don't think I will be able to donate to your bail fund because I am going to be sitting right there in a cell with you.  ::MonkeyEek::

Don't worry Monkeys...I'll talk Casually Cool, Klaas & Brandi into publishing a comic book with all their best works from this case and raise bail money that way...don't forget...I'm all about the Numbers..  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

A belated good morning to all Monkeys.  If you are all about the Numbers, I'm into manipulating figures, especially the female figure -  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: did I just say that?

Yes Casually Cool...you said that!  I am all about the numbers...and..I've got your number...and it's a naughty one...but I like that in male monkeys!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Helen Back on December 12, 2008, 12:10:06 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.

Hi Red and all monkeys.

If this kind of work is what we can expect during Casey's trial, you can stick a fork in her....she's done.

Worst practice by an attorney to be studied by law students everywhere.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:10:17 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Sorry for quoting myself....

When the blonde defence atty said LE called Baez and said the measurements and color of hair, I heard a male voice whisper "Jose Baez  is lying"

I didn't hear it but I don't doubt it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 12:10:46 PM
I think I heard Baez tell the media he would be making a statement "downstairs"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 12:11:01 PM
Something is  UP

I think that Baez knows via something Casey has said, stated

That there is no doubt in Baez's Mind that this Body is Def " Caylee"
Because there is no way that they would be flying all these people in for Forensic's if they thought for even the slightest chance this was not Caylee.

Did Casey Confess some clues along the way and or  Baez has known all along or did Casey confess something within the last 24 hours...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 12:11:13 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Did you all hear Strickland say to Baez, "After we're done, you can hire somebody to secure the crime scene."?
Baez just kept shaking his head "no" and biting his lip.

That's great! That takes any attempt to accuse anybody from contaminating the scene other than his own people.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hair is present. That's good news.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:11:19 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 12:11:29 PM
I had to miss the hearing..is there a link still ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kiwi on December 12, 2008, 12:11:35 PM
Did you guys hear that woman just say they spoke to Baez if "hair color" ?  That means there is more than just bones in that bag.

I heard it too! You and I posted at the same time and if I am not mistaken did they say something about dental records?

Yep.
I'll have to disagree with using dental records since she was only 2 and probably zero xrays were taken. Size of the teeth inside of the bone (permanent teeth) could give approximate age only. Of course just looking at the skull would work as well. Also unless she had a filling placed then even xrays would not be that helpful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.
Hey No Rose, I'm at work so I haven't been able to catch up reading. What is happening today? Thanks, Joesamas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 12:12:23 PM
That hair will tell some stories..

I wish the A's dogs could talk! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:12:24 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.

 ::cartwheel::

A very pleasant unexpected surprise!!!

Tamikosmom is about to eat an entire Humble Pie for breakfast but ... that's OK.

Janet 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:13:10 PM
Something is  UP

I think that Baez knows via something Casey has said, stated

That there is no doubt in Baez's Mind that this Body is Def " Caylee"
Because there is no way that they would be flying all these people in for Forensic's if they thought for even the slightest chance this was not Caylee.

Did Casey Confess some clues along the way and or  Baez has known all along or did Casey confess something within the last 24 hours...


I don't see this going to trial, I believe something is up also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 12:13:11 PM
Supposedly Baez was told yesterday that the anthropological measurements of the body were consistent with Caylee, and the hair color the same. Not sure who called him with this info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:13:17 PM
I sent an email to Nancy Grace about the Teeth and Dental record thing and I just recieved an auotmated response back so don't be suprised if this goes up on her site soon.

I am trying to get my chatroom working so I can stream CourtTV for everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:13:26 PM
That hair will tell some stories..

I wish the A's dogs could talk! LOL

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:13:56 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Dang, y'all heard me say that all they way from Kentucky?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mizjay on December 12, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
Did you see the look Strickland just gave Baez?  He knows this guy is a bozo! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

i literally LMAO when i saw that  ::MonkeyDance:: Baez is such a fargin' moron and counsel certainly made him look that way today.

Interesting also that when in the end the judge tells dufus baez that AFTER the LE is through with the crime scene they can have it, DA tells him that when it's available surely baez can HIRE someone to preserve it. Baez , again , with the stunned look of "ya mean we'd have to pay for that" yet, he's got experts on call from all over ?????
He's really a piece of work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CuriousCat on December 12, 2008, 12:14:26 PM
Supposedly Baez was told yesterday that the anthropological measurements of the body were consistent with Caylee, and the hair color the same. Not sure who called him with this info.

The defence said the sheriff's office called him but,as I posted earlier, I heard someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 12:14:30 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene, but a private investigator did show up later Friday morning. Investigators were there overnight collecting bags of evidence.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WATCH LIVE: Emergency Hearing At 11:30am
TEAM COVERAGE: Investigators Pull Evidence From Home
EVIDENCE REMOVED: Watch Raw Video | See Images
SHERIFF ON GMA: "Absolutely" Reason To Search
BAEZ SPEAKS: Casey's Attorney Makes Comment
CHAOS OUTSIDE HOUSE: Raw Video | See Images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony stayed the night at a hotel.

An emergency hearing in the case started at 11:30am at the Orange County Courthouse. Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, wants to make sure he has access to the all evidence recovered in the last 24 hours.

If the remains are Caylee Anthony's, at least one discovery could reveal more about the last minutes of her life.

Investigative teams at the discovery site Friday were taking buckets of dirt from the area where the trash bag and remains were found and were sifting through by hand looking for any other evidence.

Apparently, the bag the remains were found in was open and in water for sometime, so other evidence might have floated out. Eyewitness News also learned that Caylee Marie Anthony could have suffered terrifying last moments, because of the discovery that duct tape was still stuck to the child's mouth.

Internationally-respected forensic pathologist Michael Baden told Eyewitness News on Friday that duct tape could have been used to suffocate or silence someone, prevent them from screaming, which means the child could have suffered traumatic injury

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to. Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it's waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

Baden said he would expect there to be some hair as well and said the hair, tissue and bone marrow can be tested for chemicals and could hold the answer to whether chloroform or any other chemical was used to kill the child.

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used in the case. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.
Copyright 2008 by wftv.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tater on December 12, 2008, 12:14:46 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Dang, y'all heard me say that all they way from Kentucky?  ::MonkeyShocked::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 12:15:09 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Dr, Baden? What'd I miss? Please don't tell me Baden's been added to the defense!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:15:15 PM
Hi Monkeys

I'm jumping in for a minute on my lunch break at work, and have been in a meeting all morning. Please forgive me, but is there a link to the courtroom right now?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2008, 12:16:23 PM
I sent an email to Nancy Grace about the Teeth and Dental record thing and I just recieved an auotmated response back so don't be suprised if this goes up on her site soon.

I am trying to get my chatroom working so I can stream CourtTV for everyone.


Thanks again Willen. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:16:45 PM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.
Hey No Rose, I'm at work so I haven't been able to catch up reading. What is happening today? Thanks, Joesamas
Casey has a new attorney along with Baez. Linda Kenney Baden, she will be the lawyer that will be doing the questioning of the states and defense forensic witnesses, Baez needed her for that part of the trial. Judge denied motion at least for now, until there is a positive id.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: seemeatthebeach on December 12, 2008, 12:16:56 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Can't stand her after the Spector trial.....but at least we don't have to listen to sentences interrupted with ummmmmms every other word, when she speaks instead of buttkiss baez ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on December 12, 2008, 12:17:18 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....


Yes, I get panic attacks. I started getting them six years ago when my passed away at a young age (42) of brain and lung cancer. Every ache and pain I got I thought I had cancer. I'm on meds now and doing better BUT, Yes I strongly agree it's a HORRIBLE feeling. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
help please !! I cant get a link to the hearing video
 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CasuallyCool on December 12, 2008, 12:19:06 PM
I sent an email to Nancy Grace about the Teeth and Dental record thing and I just recieved an auotmated response back so don't be suprised if this goes up on her site soon.

I am trying to get my chatroom working so I can stream CourtTV for everyone.

Thanks, that would be GREAT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2008, 12:19:32 PM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.
Hey No Rose, I'm at work so I haven't been able to catch up reading. What is happening today? Thanks, Joesamas
Casey has a new attorney along with Baez. Linda Kenney Baden, she will be the lawyer that will be doing the questioning of the states and defense forensic witnesses, Baez needed her for that part of the trial. Judge denied motion at least for now, until there is a positive id.
Thanks No Rose. So they went to court today? Was that scheduled? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:19:41 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Dr, Baden? What'd I miss? Please don't tell me Baden's been added to the defense!  ::MonkeyShocked::
His wife, she is the lawyer that deals with the experts medical and forensic experts. I've seen her in action, she can be very boring in her speech, and it all gets rather confusing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:19:45 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Russ on December 12, 2008, 12:19:53 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene, but a private investigator did show up later Friday morning. Investigators were there overnight collecting bags of evidence.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WATCH LIVE: Emergency Hearing At 11:30am
TEAM COVERAGE: Investigators Pull Evidence From Home
EVIDENCE REMOVED: Watch Raw Video | See Images
SHERIFF ON GMA: "Absolutely" Reason To Search
BAEZ SPEAKS: Casey's Attorney Makes Comment
CHAOS OUTSIDE HOUSE: Raw Video | See Images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony stayed the night at a hotel.

An emergency hearing in the case started at 11:30am at the Orange County Courthouse. Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, wants to make sure he has access to the all evidence recovered in the last 24 hours.

If the remains are Caylee Anthony's, at least one discovery could reveal more about the last minutes of her life.

Investigative teams at the discovery site Friday were taking buckets of dirt from the area where the trash bag and remains were found and were sifting through by hand looking for any other evidence.

Apparently, the bag the remains were found in was open and in water for sometime, so other evidence might have floated out. Eyewitness News also learned that Caylee Marie Anthony could have suffered terrifying last moments, because of the discovery that duct tape was still stuck to the child's mouth.

Internationally-respected forensic pathologist Michael Baden told Eyewitness News on Friday that duct tape could have been used to suffocate or silence someone, prevent them from screaming, which means the child could have suffered traumatic injury

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to. Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it's waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

Baden said he would expect there to be some hair as well and said the hair, tissue and bone marrow can be tested for chemicals and could hold the answer to whether chloroform or any other chemical was used to kill the child.

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used in the case. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.
Copyright 2008 by wftv.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.




This is horrible.  I don't get bothered by too much in the world, but this case and this little girl captured my heart.  I had hoped she didn't suffer.  It looks like she might have.  How anyone can defend anyone in that family is beyond my comprehension, understanding, that they likely know what happened and everything is subterfuge.  Ghouls.  Casey being the lead ghoul.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Desdemona on December 12, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
On Casey's Myspace profile, on July 15 or 16 she deliberately set a default song to automatically begin playing when anyone clicked on her myspace page.

The song is by Nine Inch Nails, and is called "Every Day is Exactly the Same."  The lyrics appear below.  The lyrics themselves are rather chilling in light of the details of the case.  But what I find especially intriguing is this:

On her "Diary of Days" blog, posted by Casey on that same Myspace page on July 7 (the one that says "everyone lies, everyone dies" and "with great power comes great consequence"), we find this line:  "Remember the words spoken."

Remember the words spoken. What does that mean?  Well, this may be a stretch, but in the song, there is a section in which the words are not sung, but spoken.  The "words spoken" appear in red in the lyrics below.

"Every Day Is Exactly The Same"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM)

I believe I can see the future
Cause I repeat the same routine
I think I used to have a purpose
But then again
That might have been a dream
I think I used to have a voice
Now I never make a sound
I just do what I've been told
I really don't want them to come around

Oh, no

[Chorus:]
Every day is exactly the same
Every day is exactly the same
There is no love here and there is no pain
Every day is exactly the same

I can feel their eyes are watching
In case I lose myself again
Sometimes I think I'm happy here
Sometimes, yet I still pretend
I can't remember how this got started
But I can tell you exactly how it will end

[Chorus]

I'm writing on a little piece of paper
I'm hoping someday you might find
Well I'll hide it behind something
They won't look behind

I'm still inside here
A little bit comes bleeding through
I wish this could have been any other way
But I just don't know, I don't know what else I can do

[Chorus x2]

I do not know what the significance of this may be, if any.  But I wanted to share it with you smart Monkeys to see what you could make of it.

Desi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:20:02 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

I was thinking the same thing...what Dr. Baden's home life must be like!!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 12:20:32 PM
Caylee not having cloths on would tell me that she got something all over the cloths and removed them.  Could it have been vomit from KC's oding Caylee or maybe blood?


Blaze, "maybe" whoever removed Caylee's clothes counted on Caylee's body being decayed and difficult to identify without her clothes.   But, then on the otherhand, why would someone place the bag with her clothes close to her body?  Maybe to deter attention away from KC, it was suppose to look like a different type of crime; something that KC saw on one of her crime shows.   Then again, yhinking back on KC saying that Caylee's body is close by, and also saying/ asking something about Caylee's clothes still not being found knocks that theory out.  I don't watch crime or criminal programs, so to me, this is the most twisted set of circumstances I have ever heard.  I think I should change my name to "Totally Confused."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:20:52 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Can't stand her after the Spector trial.....but at least we don't have to listen to sentences interrupted with ummmmmms every other word, when she speaks instead of buttkiss baez ::MonkeyNoNo::
Me too, couldn't stand her during the Spector trial, and still can't stand her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:22:00 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Dang, y'all heard me say that all they way from Kentucky?  ::MonkeyShocked::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi, there, Tater. I must say even in the midst of all this, I have missed you.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 12:22:04 PM
I wonder if they gave Casey any medicine???  Have you all ever had a panic attack??  It is a horrible feeling.  First you feel profoundly sad, but for no reason.  You go through all your thoughts to see what could be wrong.   Family ok, healthy, have money, hungry, thirsty, tired.  No, nothing.  Then like a wave, sheer terror, panic. You want to run and run, but you don't know from what.  You feel like you are going to die or have a heart attack.  Everyone around looks normal and you cant figure out why.  Sometimes you try to move but your feet feel like they are gllued to the floor.  You cant cry, or make a sound.  It doesn't last long but it is a horrible feeling.....


Yes, I get panic attacks. I started getting them six years ago when my passed away at a young age (42) of brain and lung cancer. Every ache and pain I got I thought I had cancer. I'm on meds now and doing better BUT, Yes I strongly agree it's a HORRIBLE feeling. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.


If anyone wants to talk about this, email me..I have lived with them for years..and ALL of mine are geared around my health...every ache and pain i am freaked out....Paxil saved my life..but i still have them on occasion...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 12, 2008, 12:22:06 PM
I think I heard Baez tell the media he would be making a statement "downstairs"?

He is going to do a "Cindyism"...

Sounded fishy the Ants going to CA to check out a lead themselves.
Bet they had a clue what was gonna go down and they wanted to be out of the area.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:22:20 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 12:23:18 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18262763/index.html

Has anyone watched this video of them removing stuff from the house?You can see they took the brushes that you clean out you dryer lint hoses with also at one point one of the LE push on a bag to fit it in the trunk and it looks like a blanket of comforter pop out the top,that happens about 3:48 in ..

Thanks I didn't get a chance to see this!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:23:22 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

The hearing is over.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:23:40 PM
Did you see the look Strickland just gave Baez?  He knows this guy is a bozo! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lisa

Yes - it was great!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 12:23:40 PM
Anyone have a link to a direct feed for the news in Orland??TIA.My prayers are with the little ANGEL Caylee....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 12:23:49 PM
help please !! I cant get a link to the hearing video
 ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18262598/detail.html#-

Not sure if the video is still there but that is the link  - look on the list of videos - top one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:24:05 PM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.
Hey No Rose, I'm at work so I haven't been able to catch up reading. What is happening today? Thanks, Joesamas
Casey has a new attorney along with Baez. Linda Kenney Baden, she will be the lawyer that will be doing the questioning of the states and defense forensic witnesses, Baez needed her for that part of the trial. Judge denied motion at least for now, until there is a positive id.
Thanks No Rose. So they went to court today? Was that scheduled? TIA
Baez filed a motion yesterday an emergency motion. It was denied this morning because there hasn't been a positive id yet. Baez wanted someome from the defense to be in room during autopsy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:24:14 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Dr, Baden? What'd I miss? Please don't tell me Baden's been added to the defense!  ::MonkeyShocked::


CBB, as I read it, it's poor Dr. Baden because his wife is really obnoxious, and he has to live with her!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

The hearing is over.

The motion was denied. There may be a video of the procedings posted somewhere soon though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:25:04 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

The hearing is over.

Okay, thanks Brandi. I only have a few minutes left of my lunch break, and I didn't want to miss anything juicy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 12:26:05 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: monkeemama on December 12, 2008, 12:26:05 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 12:26:51 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:26:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene, but a private investigator did show up later Friday morning. Investigators were there overnight collecting bags of evidence.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WATCH LIVE: Emergency Hearing At 11:30am
TEAM COVERAGE: Investigators Pull Evidence From Home
EVIDENCE REMOVED: Watch Raw Video | See Images
SHERIFF ON GMA: "Absolutely" Reason To Search
BAEZ SPEAKS: Casey's Attorney Makes Comment
CHAOS OUTSIDE HOUSE: Raw Video | See Images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony stayed the night at a hotel.

An emergency hearing in the case started at 11:30am at the Orange County Courthouse. Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, wants to make sure he has access to the all evidence recovered in the last 24 hours.

If the remains are Caylee Anthony's, at least one discovery could reveal more about the last minutes of her life.

Investigative teams at the discovery site Friday were taking buckets of dirt from the area where the trash bag and remains were found and were sifting through by hand looking for any other evidence.

Apparently, the bag the remains were found in was open and in water for sometime, so other evidence might have floated out. Eyewitness News also learned that Caylee Marie Anthony could have suffered terrifying last moments, because of the discovery that duct tape was still stuck to the child's mouth.

Internationally-respected forensic pathologist Michael Baden told Eyewitness News on Friday that duct tape could have been used to suffocate or silence someone, prevent them from screaming, which means the child could have suffered traumatic injury

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to. Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it's waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

Baden said he would expect there to be some hair as well and said the hair, tissue and bone marrow can be tested for chemicals and could hold the answer to whether chloroform or any other chemical was used to kill the child.

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used in the case. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.
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Thanks WillenFan21.

In the first media reporting regarding the finding of the remains ... the duct tape across the mouth was mentioned.  A very short time later ... Mallory was at the Anthony home.  She was inside for 10 minutes prior to being requested to leave.

I pray that Mallory was not in that home to retrieve a roll duct tape at the request of Cindy or George as they were travelling back to Orlando.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:27:42 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but I've been wondering the same thing. Where is all the money coming from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:28:32 PM
On Casey's Myspace profile, on July 15 or 16 she deliberately set a default song to automatically begin playing when anyone clicked on her myspace page.

The song is by Nine Inch Nails, and is called "Every Day is Exactly the Same."  The lyrics appear below.  The lyrics themselves are rather chilling in light of the details of the case.  But what I find especially intriguing is this:

On her "Diary of Days" blog, posted by Casey on that same Myspace page on July 7 (the one that says "everyone lies, everyone dies" and "with great power comes great consequence"), we find this line:  "Remember the words spoken."

Remember the words spoken. What does that mean?  Well, this may be a stretch, but in the song, there is a section in which the words are not sung, but spoken.  The "words spoken" appear in red in the lyrics below.

"Every Day Is Exactly The Same"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM)

snipped


Wow. That is eery in light of what has happened. I believe they did remove some notebooks from the home. Do you think maybe she left a note with Caylee???

I don't want to say an "apology to God" or to Caylee but that's what pops into my head.

IDK. Did she care enough to leave a note? She loved Caylee at some point, maybe. It's all just sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:28:40 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't think any of us know how the defense is being paid. We keep throwing up that question, and we have no answers.

 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:28:58 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

The hearing is over.

The motion was denied. There may be a video of the procedings posted somewhere soon though.

I hope so.  I could not get it.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: monkeemama on December 12, 2008, 12:29:28 PM
And, I'd like to add.. what GREAT points made about how quickly the defense jumped the gun to already be filing and asking for an in on all testing, autopsy, dna, etc AND access to a 'preserved' crime scene. Just a little strange since EVERY other thing or item or place of interest, Baez has totally blown off and said it's nothing, it's not Caylee, blah blah.

Does make one think that he knows this is Caylee, which would lead me to believe that is because CASEY knows it's Caylee. Only SHE knows what she did and where she put her. And apparently her idiot lawyer as well?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 12:29:44 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene, but a private investigator did show up later Friday morning. Investigators were there overnight collecting bags of evidence.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WATCH LIVE: Emergency Hearing At 11:30am
TEAM COVERAGE: Investigators Pull Evidence From Home
EVIDENCE REMOVED: Watch Raw Video | See Images
SHERIFF ON GMA: "Absolutely" Reason To Search
BAEZ SPEAKS: Casey's Attorney Makes Comment
CHAOS OUTSIDE HOUSE: Raw Video | See Images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony stayed the night at a hotel.

An emergency hearing in the case started at 11:30am at the Orange County Courthouse. Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, wants to make sure he has access to the all evidence recovered in the last 24 hours.

If the remains are Caylee Anthony's, at least one discovery could reveal more about the last minutes of her life.

Investigative teams at the discovery site Friday were taking buckets of dirt from the area where the trash bag and remains were found and were sifting through by hand looking for any other evidence.

Apparently, the bag the remains were found in was open and in water for sometime, so other evidence might have floated out. Eyewitness News also learned that Caylee Marie Anthony could have suffered terrifying last moments, because of the discovery that duct tape was still stuck to the child's mouth.

Internationally-respected forensic pathologist Michael Baden told Eyewitness News on Friday that duct tape could have been used to suffocate or silence someone, prevent them from screaming, which means the child could have suffered traumatic injury

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to. Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it's waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

Baden said he would expect there to be some hair as well and said the hair, tissue and bone marrow can be tested for chemicals and could hold the answer to whether chloroform or any other chemical was used to kill the child.

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used in the case. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.
Copyright 2008 by wftv.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



Thanks WillenFan21.

In the first media reporting regarding the finding of the remains ... the duct tape across the mouth was mentioned.  A very short time later ... Mallory was at the Anthony home.  She was inside for 10 minutes prior to being requested to leave.

I pray that Mallory was not in that home to retrieve a roll duct tape at the request of Cindy or George as they were travelling back to Orlando.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

What purpose was she there for???It will interesting to see the phone records from yesterday mornning in regards to Cindy,George,Lee,as well as the girlfriend ands when she went to the house and for what???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: theboyzmom on December 12, 2008, 12:29:58 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Normally the State picks up the bill for anyone that can not afford to pay for the trial defense themselves BUT the court only pays "reasonable fees" unless they get approved in advance. I have not heard anything about motions to approve payment made yet. But it may be that the experts have not done anything yet and JB may decided not to have them do anything since it is pretty clear what happened and who did it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:30:06 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Win or lose attorneys, experts get paid. What kind of arrangement, regarding fees, I have no idea, the Anthonys are not rich, so I'll assume the money is coming from tv appearances, book deals, etc. Experts alone, get hundreds of dollars, hourly pay.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Red on December 12, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
I have a feeling that the judge is going to deny the motion. This woman from the County just told the judge that the defence team has no right to file this motion b/c they don't even know who the body belongs to.

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED   ... The Defense had the cart before the horse and had absolutely no standing to impose themselves in a procedure when they do not even know who the remains officially belong to.

Right.  They let the cat out of the bag about knowing it was Caylee.

Yep, they're pretty much saying they know Caylee is dead.  Bozo has known - the scum!!!

DEFENSE MOTION DENIED ... NO SOUP FOR YOU BAEZ ...

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/12/jose-baez-files-emergency-court-hearing-in-casey-anthony-case-after-remains-found-of-small-child-presumed-casey-anthony-update-motion-denied/

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Casey_hearing3_121208_small.jpg)

Quote
Judge Stan Strickland after hearing arguments from both the defense and prosecution has denied the defense motion filed for access to the autopsy of Caylee Anthony. Basically, because no formal ID has been given to the child remains found yesterday, the defense has no standing to insinuate themselves in the private evidence that could turn out to be not Caylee Anthony.  The defense wanted their experts to be present during an autopsy of an individual that they do not know legally to even be that of missing Caylee Anthony.


If one would take the def point of view then any def atty experts could be a part of any autopsy that determines identity.

I especially liked the fact that the prosecutors slapped down at defense experts that they will examine the body and be on TV that night. Caylee is allowed respect and confidentiality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

BTgirl it's over.  If a video of the proceedings shows up we'll be sure to post it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: kirbysquirrel on December 12, 2008, 12:30:58 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:31:03 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:31:22 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Dr, Baden? What'd I miss? Please don't tell me Baden's been added to the defense!  ::MonkeyShocked::

The heavy set blonde is his wife I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:32:17 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:33:17 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but would like to know, also.  Just wanted you to know that I see you.  ::MonkeyCool::  Best wishes for a smooth delivery and congrats on your daughter!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Or some connection to her to hide ...  :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Is there any way to find out who is paying for these defense lawyers and experts?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
Link to courtroom?

Pretty please?  ::MonkeyWaa::

BTgirl it's over.  If a video of the proceedings shows up we'll be sure to post it.

Thanks, Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Normally the State picks up the bill for anyone that can not afford to pay for the trial defense themselves BUT the court only pays "reasonable fees" unless they get approved in advance. I have not heard anything about motions to approve payment made yet. But it may be that the experts have not done anything yet and JB may decided not to have them do anything since it is pretty clear what happened and who did it.
Kobe hasn't even looked at the evidence yet, and after Dr Lee examined the car we haven't heard a peep from him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 12:33:50 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

Ok way OT but had to say what a handsome squirrel   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 12:33:54 PM
if duct tape was attached to her mouth you can bet she was not completely down to a skeleton. there's still soft tissue on the body.... this means they have a lot more to test.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
KLAAS or anyone who was here yesterday

what happened with that bit torrent thing?  Were there pictures or videos of Casey? If so

Andrea_Kulikowski@yahoo.com

please email me any links or info pertaining to this

i am very interested...
thank you!!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:35:18 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but would like to know, also.  Just wanted you to know that I see you.  ::MonkeyCool::  Best wishes for a smooth delivery and congrats on your daughter!!

Yes, I think they still have to be paid win or lose. I don't think it's like a car accident deal where "we only get paid when you do." I'd say the law firm will pay for the experts and then bill whomever is paying for Casey's defense. I sure would like to know who is paying ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 12:35:21 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html

"Aggressive, Experienced, Trusted Criminal Defense"  Bwahahahaha!

Jose is a legend in his own mind!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 12, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Win or lose attorneys, experts get paid. What kind of arrangement, regarding fees, I have no idea, the Anthonys are not rich, so I'll assume the money is coming from tv appearances, book deals, etc. Experts alone, get hundreds of dollars, hourly pay.

Worst case scenario is they don't get paid and write eventually write it off as a loss on taxes?  just a thought.
they could inflate the amount owed exponentially i'd think and actually come out ahead on taxes, plus all the media deals.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:35:37 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

Very possible Kirby


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:35:42 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Can't stand her after the Spector trial.....but at least we don't have to listen to sentences interrupted with ummmmmms every other word, when she speaks instead of buttkiss baez ::MonkeyNoNo::

I didn't watch that trial and had never seen her before - someone here earlier posted about her being the new defense addition.  I like Dr. Baden....I do not care for her.    ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:35:56 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but I've been wondering the same thing. Where is all the money coming from?

Today Show.  Larry King Live.  Book/movie deals!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I contend that this is the reason that Jose Baez objected to the "gag" order motion put forward by the State Attorney's office.  I suspect that all monies for guest appearances (photo rights)  by Cindy and George on these shows are going directly into a defence fund for Casey.

Strickland again ruled in favor of the defense on that one and ... therefore the money train is still rolling into Station Baez.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 12:35:58 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

I was wondering what significance it might have, and that makes sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 12:37:31 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but I've been wondering the same thing. Where is all the money coming from?

Today Show.  Larry King Live.  Book/movie deals!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I contend that this is the reason that Jose Baez objected to the "gag" order motion put forward by the State Attorney's office.  I suspect that all monies for guest appearances (photo rights)  by Cindy and George on these shows are going directly into a defence fund for Casey.

Strickland again ruled in favor of the defense on that one and ... therefore the money train is still rolling into Station Baez.

Janet

Going on LKL again tonight, hmmm.  Maybe this is in order to pay for Mrs. Baden?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:38:09 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Or some connection to her to hide ...  :smt102


Hmmmm...now that is worth looking into!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: monkeemama on December 12, 2008, 12:38:18 PM
Thanks 3bs!! And everyone else!

I keep thinking about the vaccuums.. what would they be looking for with those? Vaccuumed up hair? Matter from the car - if those were used to vaccuum it out?? I just keep thinking of Beary saying that there was something found that links the remains to something in the Anthony house. What are yalls personal opinions/possibilities on what was taken vs his statements?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?

I don't know the answer, but I've been wondering the same thing. Where is all the money coming from?

Today Show.  Larry King Live.  Book/movie deals!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I contend that this is the reason that Jose Baez objected to the "gag" order motion put forward by the State Attorney's office.  I suspect that all monies for guest appearances (photo rights)  by Cindy and George on these shows are going directly into a defence fund for Casey.

Strickland again ruled in favor of the defense on that one and ... therefore the money train is still rolling into Station Baez.

Janet

Going on LKL again tonight, hmmm.  Maybe this is in order to pay for Mrs. Baden?

Lisa
Bingo, Mrs Baden does not come cheap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 12:38:30 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Normally the State picks up the bill for anyone that can not afford to pay for the trial defense themselves BUT the court only pays "reasonable fees" unless they get approved in advance. I have not heard anything about motions to approve payment made yet. But it may be that the experts have not done anything yet and JB may decided not to have them do anything since it is pretty clear what happened and who did it.

I believe that I learned that the State ends up picking up the bill if the defense runs out of money at any point, because if the defense has to go out and find "cheaper or more reasonably priced experts, the entire case could be compromised and a mistrial could be declared.  Does anyone else remember learning something similar in school?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:38:40 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh:: at Red

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/dogpoundbrenda/emoticons/01AwcAX3d0nTEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAA_.jpg)

No soup for Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 12:38:49 PM
Caylee not having cloths on would tell me that she got something all over the cloths and removed them.  Could it have been vomit from KC's oding Caylee or maybe blood?


Blaze, "maybe" whoever removed Caylee's clothes counted on Caylee's body being decayed and difficult to identify without her clothes.   But, then on the otherhand, why would someone place the bag with her clothes close to her body?  Maybe to deter attention away from KC, it was suppose to look like a different type of crime; something that KC saw on one of her crime shows.   Then again, yhinking back on KC saying that Caylee's body is close by, and also saying/ asking something about Caylee's clothes still not being found knocks that theory out.  I don't watch crime or criminal programs, so to me, this is the most twisted set of circumstances I have ever heard.  I think I should change my name to "Totally Confused."

Earlier on Fox News, they had one of their usual segments with a "typical" defense lawyer and a prosecutor talking about what the finding of the bag with remains means to this case. The prosecutor said the location and content bolster the prosecution's case and the search of the "crime scene" (the Anthony's home) again indicate that evidence in the contents of the bag or at the location most likely can be tied to where the crime occurred, etc. The defense attorney went off on this long tangent about how this helps Casey as the finding yesterday indicates typical predator child sexual molester, kidnapper-snatcher, and an attempt to pin the crime on the poor dead grieving Mommy. A truly imaginative effort IMO that will be exceedingly difficult to sell to any jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 12:38:54 PM
I like the judge and the prosecutorial team ~ ! 

Regarding the new addition to the defense team : Poor Dr. Baden   ::MonkeyShocked::   Lordy Day!

Can't stand her after the Spector trial.....but at least we don't have to listen to sentences interrupted with ummmmmms every other word, when she speaks instead of buttkiss baez ::MonkeyNoNo::

I didn't watch that trial and had never seen her before - someone here earlier posted about her being the new defense addition.  I like Dr. Baden....I do not care for her.    ::MonkeyShocked::


Sheriff: Clues link body to Anthony 
Last Edited: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 10:03 AM EST 
Created: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 9:11 AM EST

Defense team grows


If Linda Kenney-Baden's name sounds familiar, you may recognize her as an author,  trial attorney and legal commentator who has been involved in other high-profile criminal cases.

She recently represented music producer Phil Spector in a murder trial and offered analysis during the controversy surrounding the death of super model Anna Nicole Smith.   Her husband is forensic expert Dr. Michael Baden of the HBO series Autopsy. 

Kenney-Baden will be joining Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in court at 11:30 a.m. Friday morning for an emergency hearing to preserve evidence gathered on Thursday.  The motion was filed by Baez on Thursday afternoon.  We will be streaming the hearing live on MyFoxOrlando.com.

"I'm concerned about my client, period.  We are requesting to have access to this information," said Baez. "As it [evidence] is being tested, we would like our people present, especially if it's destructive in nature by the testing."

"There are basically two kinds of test that government and medical investigators will conduct," said FOX 35 Senior Legal Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.  "One is a visual observation of the scene.  The other type of test is on tissue and materials from the contents of the bag." 

Judge Napolitano said those tests can frequently destroy the tissue on which the tests were taken, which gives cause for Baez to file the motion.

"The defense wants to be there to be sure they physically observe the tests, so if the government says, 'we physically tested this bone and here's what it showed us,' then the defense investigators will know, in fact, that it was this bone.  As well, if there is only a small amount of physical evidence that they want to test, they may both need to run their own tests at the same time, because this small amount of whatever it may be -- let's say skin or tissue -- may be gone forever," Napolitano added.

<snipped>

A spokeswoman with the state attorney's office said Thursday that officials wouldn't comment until the investigation was complete.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 12, 2008, 12:40:40 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Win or lose attorneys, experts get paid. What kind of arrangement, regarding fees, I have no idea, the Anthonys are not rich, so I'll assume the money is coming from tv appearances, book deals, etc. Experts alone, get hundreds of dollars, hourly pay.


In otherwords, their dog and poney show at Caylee's expense.  Makes me want to puke!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2008, 12:42:18 PM
Just wondering,
Why didn't any of the neighbors, passer-bye's smell the body?  It was so close to the street.

traci
If I am understanding it correctly, the bag was submerged in water.
Hey No Rose, I'm at work so I haven't been able to catch up reading. What is happening today? Thanks, Joesamas
Casey has a new attorney along with Baez. Linda Kenney Baden, she will be the lawyer that will be doing the questioning of the states and defense forensic witnesses, Baez needed her for that part of the trial. Judge denied motion at least for now, until there is a positive id.
Thanks No Rose. So they went to court today? Was that scheduled? TIA
Baez filed a motion yesterday an emergency motion. It was denied this morning because there hasn't been a positive id yet. Baez wanted someome from the defense to be in room during autopsy.
So the judge said nobody from the defense can be at the autopsy, or wait until the body is id, then they will do the autopsy? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:42:21 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html

"Aggressive, Experienced, Trusted Criminal Defense"  Bwahahahaha!

Jose is a legend in his own mind!

Lisa

"Arrogant, Incompetent, Dumber than a Box of Rocks -- Jose Butfuz"

GMAFB, I would hire a petrified turd to represent me before I would Hire Baez. It couldn't talk to f things up and it would be a hell of a lot better company and better to look at. Just sayin'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kimmy53 on December 12, 2008, 12:43:53 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

This is gross to even think of, but I would think that with the body being in a bag, and some have mentioned that tissue was there as well, there may be remains of maggots still with the body.  If they find the same chemicals in the remains of the maggots that is in the sprayer, it connects the Anthony house further.

There is so much more than I am sure anyone expected to be found in that bag.  There would be remnants of what ever her body came in contact with, or was on her body when she was disposed of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:44:11 PM
On Casey's Myspace profile, on July 15 or 16 she deliberately set a default song to automatically begin playing when anyone clicked on her myspace page.

The song is by Nine Inch Nails, and is called "Every Day is Exactly the Same."  The lyrics appear below.  The lyrics themselves are rather chilling in light of the details of the case.  But what I find especially intriguing is this:

On her "Diary of Days" blog, posted by Casey on that same Myspace page on July 7 (the one that says "everyone lies, everyone dies" and "with great power comes great consequence"), we find this line:  "Remember the words spoken."

Remember the words spoken. What does that mean?  Well, this may be a stretch, but in the song, there is a section in which the words are not sung, but spoken.  The "words spoken" appear in red in the lyrics below.

"Every Day Is Exactly The Same"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybogAzJfpPM)

I believe I can see the future
Cause I repeat the same routine
I think I used to have a purpose
But then again
That might have been a dream
I think I used to have a voice
Now I never make a sound
I just do what I've been told
I really don't want them to come around

Oh, no

[Chorus:]
Every day is exactly the same
Every day is exactly the same
There is no love here and there is no pain
Every day is exactly the same

I can feel their eyes are watching
In case I lose myself again
Sometimes I think I'm happy here
Sometimes, yet I still pretend
I can't remember how this got started
But I can tell you exactly how it will end

[Chorus]

I'm writing on a little piece of paper
I'm hoping someday you might find
Well I'll hide it behind something
They won't look behind

I'm still inside here
A little bit comes bleeding through
I wish this could have been any other way
But I just don't know, I don't know what else I can do

[Chorus x2]

I do not know what the significance of this may be, if any.  But I wanted to share it with you smart Monkeys to see what you could make of it.

Desi





Well thay did say the were taking paper and pens and pencils from the Anthonys house as evidence. So I think there is something here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:44:15 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


If Casey was drugging her and letting her sleep in the trunk ("Nanny"), would she have provided a blanket and pillow for Caylee? Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:44:40 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!

I tend to agree on all points here.

Cindy and George have their own lawyers to pay.

Casey is an adult and responsible for her own contracts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 12:44:54 PM
::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh:: at Red

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/dogpoundbrenda/emoticons/01AwcAX3d0nTEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAA_.jpg)

No soup for Baez.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 12, 2008, 12:45:08 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!

I just heard on the news that the As are supposed to comment on yesterday's findings and the search of their home on LK's show tonight. Absolutely mind boggling. Also, LK is such a creep for giving them air time. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:45:12 PM
I haven't been around much lately, lots going on being so close to having my daughter.. and it seems lately everything I say gets ignored. So I am not really expecting an answer but..

If anyone could spare a moment, who might know - If (or should I say WHEN) Baez and whoever else loses this trial for Casey, will she still be responsible to PAY for all of these members of her defense team?? How does this work?
Win or lose attorneys, experts get paid. What kind of arrangement, regarding fees, I have no idea, the Anthonys are not rich, so I'll assume the money is coming from tv appearances, book deals, etc. Experts alone, get hundreds of dollars, hourly pay.


In otherwords, their dog and poney show at Caylee's expense.  Makes me want to puke!
No respect from this family for this beautiful little girl. When it comes time for a funeral for Caylee I hope it is done with the decency she deserves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 12, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Just a random thought: I wonder if Casey planted something with the body to try to incriminate someone else if the body was found? I wouldn't put it past her. Remember the strange incident of her taking a shower at Jesse's (at least I think it was Jesse's)? I thought then that she might have taken hair from a hairbrush or something like that to plant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: monkeemama on December 12, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html

"Aggressive, Experienced, Trusted Criminal Defense"  Bwahahahaha!

Jose is a legend in his own mind!

Lisa

"Arrogant, Incompetent, Dumber than a Box of Rocks -- Jose Butfuz"

GMAFB, I would hire a petrified turd to represent me before I would Hire Baez. It couldn't talk to f things up and it would be a hell of a lot better company and better to look at. Just sayin'

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 12:46:03 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

Yea, I'm sure this is the same thing that Tony talked about. Remember her waking up in the middle of the night, sweating saying she was having nightmares? The bitch knows her ass is history, it's only a matter of time!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:46:08 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Maybe George's parents ?   It's curious, foe shizzle!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:47:28 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I don't think so. The little girl needs some peace and respect. It that bit of information is true and it is not connected to the crime, I feel it should be left out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:47:54 PM
Just a random thought: I wonder if Casey planted something with the body to try to incriminate someone else if the body was found? I wouldn't put it past her. Remember the strange incident of her taking a shower at Jesse's (at least I think it was Jesse's)? I thought then that she might have taken hair from a hairbrush or something like that to plant.
Yes, I wonder. Also the tree cutting, trimming going on at the crime scene, that has me baffled.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kiwi on December 12, 2008, 12:48:25 PM
Just  quick information on the dental part of the positive identification portion of the forensics. Pre xrays are needed and any following a filling. The skull is xrayed by the dental pathologist on the case. A comparison is made between the multiple sets of xrays. Positive Identification usually requires a filling, missing teeth or some artifact. I noticed Dr Baden did not mention dental records. If they have something like the above then they could identify her from dental records. Just remember at her age there just isn't that many xrays being taken.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:48:47 PM
The house was supposedly cleared. I wonder why a cop car is still there. To keep the peace maybe?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Maybe George's parents ?   It's curious, foe shizzle!
One of his relatives are rich, he made mention of it during one of the interviews.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
Earlier on Fox News, they had one of their usual segments with a "typical" defense lawyer and a prosecutor talking about what the finding of the bag with remains means to this case. The prosecutor said the location and content bolster the prosecution's case and the search of the "crime scene" (the Anthony's home) again indicate that evidence in the contents of the bag or at the location most likely can be tied to where the crime occurred, etc. The defense attorney went off on this long tangent about how this helps Casey as the finding yesterday indicates typical predator child sexual molester, kidnapper-snatcher, and an attempt to pin the crime on the poor dead grieving Mommy. A truly imaginative effort IMO that will be exceedingly difficult to sell to any jury.

Umm, I have never heard of a case like that. Has anyone else? It amazes me what BS these defense attorneys come up with. Dang, maybe Casey could be a defense attorney when this is all over with, in additon to her work with missing children that is. (Please note total sarcasm here) ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mstam656 on December 12, 2008, 12:49:25 PM
I just had a horrible thought ..what if KC duct taped Caylee's mouth and threw her into the pool to drown???  Could explain some other things...like the ladder on the pool..she could have then buried her in the back yard (borrowed neighbor's shovel)for a few days...explaining cadaver dog hits and then moved her later...down the street...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 12, 2008, 12:49:26 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


If Casey was drugging her and letting her sleep in the trunk ("Nanny"), would she have provided a blanket and pillow for Caylee? Just a thought.

And an excellent thought it is!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 12:49:52 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Russ on December 12, 2008, 12:50:00 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!

I just heard on the news that the As are supposed to comment on yesterday's findings and the search of their home on LK's show tonight. Absolutely mind boggling. Also, LK is such a creep for giving them air time. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Ghouls.  All of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


If Casey was drugging her and letting her sleep in the trunk ("Nanny"), would she have provided a blanket and pillow for Caylee? Just a thought.

or if there was something else to clean up, you wouldn't just throw the towel in the trash in the house.  It sounds like there was something obvious in the bag to tie the house in.  I think missing carpet or something would have been obvious initially but not something like a towel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BooMonkey on December 12, 2008, 12:50:30 PM
Just a random thought: I wonder if Casey planted something with the body to try to incriminate someone else if the body was found? I wouldn't put it past her. Remember the strange incident of her taking a shower at Jesse's (at least I think it was Jesse's)? I thought then that she might have taken hair from a hairbrush or something like that to plant.

Ooooo Scatty, good call. A very good possibility!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kimmy53 on December 12, 2008, 12:50:41 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html

"Aggressive, Experienced, Trusted Criminal Defense"  Bwahahahaha!

Jose is a legend in his own mind!

Lisa

"Arrogant, Incompetent, Dumber than a Box of Rocks -- Jose Butfuz"

GMAFB, I would hire a petrified turd to represent me before I would Hire Baez. It couldn't talk to f things up and it would be a hell of a lot better company and better to look at. Just sayin'

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 12:50:52 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I don't think so. The little girl needs some peace and respect. It that bit of information is true and it is not connected to the crime, I feel it should be left out.

What have i missed???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:51:37 PM
I just had a horrible thought ..what if KC duct taped Caylee's mouth and threw her into the pool to drown???  Could explain some other things...like the ladder on the pool..she could have then buried her in the back yard (borrowed neighbor's shovel)for a few days...explaining cadaver dog hits and then moved her later...down the street...
That thought entered my mind yesterday, what a horrible thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Maybe George's parents ?   It's curious, foe shizzle!
One of his relatives are rich, he made mention of it during one of the interviews.

Yeah, IIRC .. his sister. But she also had some psychological issues, I think he said, and did not want to get involved. Something like that. So who knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 12:52:04 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:52:52 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

This is gross to even think of, but I would think that with the body being in a bag, and some have mentioned that tissue was there as well, there may be remains of maggots still with the body.  If they find the same chemicals in the remains of the maggots that is in the sprayer, it connects the Anthony house further.

There is so much more than I am sure anyone expected to be found in that bag.  There would be remnants of what ever her body came in contact with, or was on her body when she was disposed of.


mulch from the backyard where the cadaver dogs hit?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:52:58 PM
Thanks 3bs!! And everyone else!

I keep thinking about the vaccuums.. what would they be looking for with those? Vaccuumed up hair? Matter from the car - if those were used to vaccuum it out?? I just keep thinking of Beary saying that there was something found that links the remains to something in the Anthony house. What are yalls personal opinions/possibilities on what was taken vs his statements?!

With the vaccuums, I think one possibility is they are looking for hair - like you said, possibly some from the car- possibly showing decomp.  The only thing I know for now about found evidence at the site, is the duct tape and the bag Caylee was in.  They could be looking in the house to connect those.  But it sure seems as if there was more found at the site, the way they searched that house!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Russ on December 12, 2008, 12:53:17 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

She wasn't too upset ordering reeses peanut butter cups, lemonade, and granola bars right about the time she found out.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1212/18262865.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 12:53:59 PM
Baez on Headline news now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:54:13 PM
I had Jane Velaz Mitchell show on yesterday, while I was on the computer. There was mention about an earring at the crime scene, I have not heard anything else about that. I wonder if anyone else has?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Scatty on December 12, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

I don't believe Casey is capable of anything real. IMO she was  putting on an act; she probably thought, how would Cindy react? She has had to time to hone the act of panicked mother. Although she doesn't realize yet -- too little, too late, Casey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 12:54:47 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

This is gross to even think of, but I would think that with the body being in a bag, and some have mentioned that tissue was there as well, there may be remains of maggots still with the body.  If they find the same chemicals in the remains of the maggots that is in the sprayer, it connects the Anthony house further.

There is so much more than I am sure anyone expected to be found in that bag.  There would be remnants of what ever her body came in contact with, or was on her body when she was disposed of.

With the thoughts on the Pesticides .. that sounds like something KC would think of. You know if she sprayed they would die. She would not attempt to remove them physically. The one thing about the body being in water( in the bag)  is probably the most important. Because then with the mixture of bodily fluids, gases and the water itself I would think would allow trace tissues remain somewhat. Sick that I even typed that. 
The bag itself would serve as a incubator somewhat. If as said " hair was found" as that woman co-counsel stated ... ( I think she slipped there) ( How would she Know)
Hair could have anything on it, attached to it. ( eggs, chemicals, tape residue etc's)

Something has been said I believe by Casey to Baez. That is why it was mentioned that he is pulling out the Big Guns with the Forensic people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 12:55:19 PM
Has anyone seen this ???

I was just googling Jose Baez to see if I could find his last statement -

Hah ~ I guess he is " Somebody" now ... His website for his Law Firm
Looks like a Movie Star ...  :gaah:


http://www.baezlawfirm.com/index.html

"Aggressive, Experienced, Trusted Criminal Defense"  Bwahahahaha!

Jose is a legend in his own mind!

Lisa

"Arrogant, Incompetent, Dumber than a Box of Rocks -- Jose Butfuz"

GMAFB, I would hire a petrified turd to represent me before I would Hire Baez. It couldn't talk to f things up and it would be a hell of a lot better company and better to look at. Just sayin'

OMG - you are too funny!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


If Casey was drugging her and letting her sleep in the trunk ("Nanny"), would she have provided a blanket and pillow for Caylee? Just a thought.


Or a small quilt...maybe a patterned one which may match something in that front bedroom qhich they searched last night ? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tater on December 12, 2008, 12:55:49 PM
Did anyone hear someone whisper "Jose Baez is lying"?

Dang, y'all heard me say that all they way from Kentucky?  ::MonkeyShocked::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi, there, Tater. I must say even in the midst of all this, I have missed you.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Big Hugs goodnmad!!! I've been checking in everyday a few times to try and keep updated.I usually end up getting a big laugh from something you've posted and leave feeling better then I did when I came... ::MonkeyHaHa:: So much going on all the time I get weary,lol..Now take notice,I'm watching you..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 12:56:04 PM
Finally out of work!!

Did the judge tell the defense that he would revisit this issue if the remains are Caylee?  Or was it just a blanket "no"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on December 12, 2008, 12:56:09 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

I say LET HER HAVE THEM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


But I like pop tarts and Reese cups too.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

She wasn't too upset ordering reeses peanut butter cups, lemonade, and granola bars right about the time she found out.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1212/18262865.pdf


WTF does this girl have a soul??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
Well I can honestly say everytime I have a panic attack I'm not eating peanut butter cups, granola bars, and drinking lemonade.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 12:57:46 PM
I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

Agree 100%

Just makes me want to scream out -- If you don't want children people, either keep your pants on or use birth control! Give the child up for adoption to a loving family if you don't want him or her! Children are not disposable!!!!

Sorry for my rant.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on December 12, 2008, 12:58:27 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

I say LET HER HAVE THEM

I wasnt done lol.......first show of her being a sorta human.....ride those emotions you baby killer!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 12:58:51 PM
Where is the mobile cam shooting from??

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Is it up the street from the spot where they found her remains or the Anthony's?  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 12:59:17 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on December 12, 2008, 12:59:39 PM
I really wonder what those "other items" might have been......

I wonder if there was a shower curtain or a set of sheets??

OH god if she did have duct tape around the skull and She left Caylee naked could she have wrapped her in sheets and possibly pillowcases, I know people keep saying Casey is lazy but what if she was trying to set it up to look like a S** crime...I cant even say the word right now....

Of course she could have been lazt and just grabbed the trash bag from the trash can and "disposed" of her with the garbage.....


SICK SICK SICK I HATE HER!!
IIRC the boyfriend said that the bag in the trunk contained food from the Anthony house. Which means Casey didn't go shop, she raided her parents fridg. Which means you are correct, Casey would have taken trash bags from her mom and dads house and used them. And CNN said last night that trash bags have certaining markings that can be dated and identified to exact matches.

The duct tape should be quite revealing as well as the actual bones and soft tissue left behind. If there is a cross with a receipt then the evidence is damning.

Too bad they removed the death penalty from Casey. I would like her to be on death row. Will she go to the State Pen if convicted? I hear they don't tolerate baby killers there.



But if she get LWOP, she will never be able to sleep and must watch her back at all times.  To me, that is better than the death penalty.

Lisa




Well Of coarse I want her a$$ handed to her in jail just as much as all of you do BUT right now she's PCed AND when her case is over she has the right to ask to be PCed again. UGH! So chances are NOTHING BAD will happen to the b*tch!! Which makes me more angry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mstam656 on December 12, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
Baez knows this is Caylee and he knows the truth.  He didn't need Casey to tell him...he's not totally stupid.  This is getting almost comical in the way they are trying to subvert justice here.

Her so-called panic attacks say it all IMO. She knows her BS game is over and she will be in prison for life.

Enjoy your Pop-Tarts and Reese Cups, ya beyotch!!!!! (Not you Lala's, Casey of course). 


I think she was having a reaction to too much sugar, not a panic attack.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not to make light of panic attacks. (Yes, I've had a few myself.) But this beyotch is only concerned for herself. She is freaking out b/c her azz is grass. She knows it. As long as Caylee's body was missing, she had a shot in hell. I refuse to feel sorry for her. And as someone else said, maybe Caylee had a panic attack when her mommy was killing her.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe Casey will face far greater punishment from a far greater power. Her day will come.

I more than understand that "real" panic attacks are "real."  KC's just freaking out because she finally got caught with her pants down (not literally, just an old saying).  It just makes me want to cry when I think that little Caylee couldn't even scream-out with her "real" state of panic.  KC has set herself-up to burn in hell for eternity.

She wasn't too upset ordering reeses peanut butter cups, lemonade, and granola bars right about the time she found out.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1212/18262865.pdf

for few days she is getting stuff everyday...thought they could only get stuff once every week??  sounds like room service to me....I do not think the skank is suffering at all...now she gets meds too?  BS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 01:00:22 PM
Just a random thought: I wonder if Casey planted something with the body to try to incriminate someone else if the body was found? I wouldn't put it past her. Remember the strange incident of her taking a shower at Jesse's (at least I think it was Jesse's)? I thought then that she might have taken hair from a hairbrush or something like that to plant.

1.. dont give her that much credit too stupid or too lazy maybe both

2.. I dont think that she thought she would get caught she truly thought every one bought her lies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:00:57 PM
WTF does this girl have a soul??

No. Casey does not IMO. And here's why:

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/caylee_007.jpg)

Look at this baby girl. How could she do this to her?

Damnit, I would have loved this child to no end. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 01:09:15 PM
Just a random thought: I wonder if Casey planted something with the body to try to incriminate someone else if the body was found? I wouldn't put it past her. Remember the strange incident of her taking a shower at Jesse's (at least I think it was Jesse's)? I thought then that she might have taken hair from a hairbrush or something like that to plant.

1.. dont give her that much credit too stupid or too lazy maybe both

2.. I dont think that she thought she would get caught she truly thought every one bought her lies


I am with you, jzygirl ... look where she left her daughter's remains! 3-tenths of a mile from her home! Right next to her old school! Right under everyone's nose! Not a smart criminal, IMO.

I think she left her underwater and thought that she would never be found.

Thank God she was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee while she was in the trunk of her car and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 01:09:52 PM
is there any live news coverage happening ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
Big Hugs goodnmad!!! I've been checking in everyday a few times to try and keep updated.I usually end up getting a big laugh from something you've posted and leave feeling better then I did when I came... ::MonkeyHaHa:: So much going on all the time I get weary,lol..Now take notice,I'm watching you..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I always feel like somebody's watchin' me, ain't got no privacy. (Sorry 80s song there)

Now, if my tummy wasn't full of knots, I'd be wanting me some fried taters right about now.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 01:10:36 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

I can't WAIT for the Moment they Release Casey into the general Population of Orange County Corrections ...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 01:11:25 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 


Can someone back-up to conversations last month about the white trash bag with a yellow pull-string (if my memory serves me correctly), which was seen in KC's trunk by, I think, a man working at the tow yard and maybe GA.  There were pages of speculation here about what all it held after the maggots were found.  All morning, my curious mind has been thinking about if Caylee's body had been in the trunk, and in the white plastic bag, and again transferred to the black trash bag, which was found yesterday, there had to be more than just KC's involvement.  I don't know about you, but at our house, it usually takes two people to fill a trash bag when there's a lot of trash...one to hold the bag and one to fill it.  Maybe my mind is just in rambling mode today.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:12:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.
Wow, I would not have thought that there is tissue left. The water where the bag was submerged perserved her remains. What's also amazing is that so far it doesn't appear that there was animal activity on the bag. At least we haven't heard that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 01:12:59 PM
is there any live news coverage happening ?

http://www.cfnews13.com/Services/ListenLive/Default.aspx

Audio only. Giving updates. That's all I have found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 01:13:09 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I don't think so. The little girl needs some peace and respect. It that bit of information is true and it is not connected to the crime, I feel it should be left out.

What have i missed???????

If Lee is the father, I believe it gives Casey a motive...so then it would be part of the case.  I worked in a funeral home for many years, and I don't mean to sound callous but the whole point of a funeral is for the LIVING so that they can have a chance to say goodbye.  I think the public needs to know the truth because many out there believe that something like this can never happen in a family, or if it does happen, it doesn't happen in such an affluent, suburban neighborhood.  To glaze over that part of a situation, or sweep it under the rug, is wrong, IMO, and Casey and Lee deserve to be held accountable in the court of public opinion and our legal courts for what they have done....because having a child with a brother is illegal anyway and I hope if that is the case, Lee and Casey both pay a huge price for doing something so horrendous!

Don't throw nanners at me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 


Can someone back-up to conversations last month about the white trash bag with a yellow pull-string (if my memory serves me correctly), which was seen in KC's trunk by, I think, a man working at the tow yard and maybe GA.  There were pages of speculation here about what all it held after the maggots were found.  All morning, my curious mind has been thinking about if Caylee's body had been in the trunk, and in the white plastic bag, and again transferred to the black trash bag, which was found yesterday, there had to be more than just KC's involvement.  I don't know about you, but at our house, it usually takes two people to fill a trash bag when there's a lot of trash...one to hold the bag and one to fill it.  Maybe my mind is just in rambling mode today.  

IIRC the bag of trash that was in the trunk of her car was from tony's apt


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
Is anyone watching CNN right now? Someone on another baord just said that it was said that hair(which we knew already) and EYE COLOR matched Caylee's. How can her eyes still be there. Is that possible?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 01:14:37 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

Some smart monkey please tell me if there was still tissue how does this affect the skull being connected to the body....Would it still have came detatched on its own or would it have to be removed??Yuck I know


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

I can't WAIT for the Moment they Release Casey into the general Population of Orange County Corrections ...........

I really HOPE this happens, too!  But will it happen or will she be kept in solitary for the rest of her days?  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
Talking about duct tape .

from article:

The remains that were found are not just bones. There is tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape is stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.
Wow, I would not have thought that there is tissue left. The water where the bag was submerged perserved her remains. What's also amazing is that so far it doesn't appear that there was animal activity on the bag. At least we haven't heard that.

something I found on decomp in water. It does preserve the body. And with a plastic bag, more so, I'd guess.

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/notes/water.pdf (http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/notes/water.pdf)

Sinking, putrefaction and refloating
A body in water will usually sink but because the specific gravity of a body is very close to that of water then small variations e.g. air trapped in clothing have a considerable effect on buoyancy. Having sunk to the bottom the body will remain there until putrefactive gas formation decreases the specific gravity of the body and creates sufficient buoyancy to allow it to rise to the surface and float. Heavy clothing and weights attached to the body may delay but will not usually prevent the body rising. Putrefaction proceeds at a slower rate in water than in air, in sea water than in fresh water and in running water than in stagnant water. The principal determinant is the temperature of the water so that in deep very cold water e.g. the North American Great Lakes or the ocean the body may never resurface.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:16:41 PM
FoxNews is saying CAYLEE FOUND.  I don't know if they are just saying what we are already pretty certain of or if there is more information we aren't aware of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:17:21 PM
Thanks Nut   ::MonkeyWink::
I hope I dont get locked out of here today.
I spent hours trying to peek in here yesterday it was sooo busy
I wonder if on days when there is heavy traffic they can limit the amount of unregistered access to keep the members in the cage...
All of my major shopping, shipping and cleaning are done and I am sooo relieved.
I can spend more time here with my monkey friends following events as they unfold  ::MonkeyDance::

I wonder, as others have, on heavy traffic days in here, if we turned off our animated avatars, would that help keep us IN the cage?  I'd rather do that than close it to guests. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blaze on December 12, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 12, 2008, 01:17:56 PM
Anyone know if there is a back gate in the fence around the back yard?  I'm thinking she took the body out of trunk, through garage and while trying to figure out what to do with it (and borrow shovel) she put it down a few times in the back yard ... which is why cadaver dogs hit - then proceeded to the woods (?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
Pages back someone, I'm sorry don't remember who, was discussing the ring that Cindy was talking about with Casey during one of the jail visits. I found it really odd that Cindy brought up that ring while discussing her missing granddaughter, it came out of left field. Maybe the ring was in the bag? There has to be something about that ring, it made no sense to discuss it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:19:04 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 01:19:41 PM
The party is over for Casey...her attorneys know this.  The only reason they wanted to be in on the identification and autopsy is to see for themselves.  They need not worry, they will get their chance...every accused person in the United States will get discovery.  It's rule of law...but this time the law won't work for Casey...it will work against her.  Baez should have convinced Casey to make a deal...that time is passed and now the prosecution has a gold mine of evidence to, at the very least, prove Caylee is dead.  Put two and two together and you get a mother that did not notify anyone of her child's missing for over 30 days and then has lied every which way to Sunday about who, what and where.  Now you have remains of a child that with patience and time will be revealed to be Caylee.  All they need now is confirmation of the maggots, bugs, soil and tissue being consistent with Caylee and her surroundings and it's over for Casey. Casey has placed herself in a hole here...the Sawgrass apartments is where she claims she left Caylee...not in her backyard or in the pool.  Find things consistent with that home and it brings it all back to Casey.Yep, 2 + 2 really does equal 4.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I don't think so. The little girl needs some peace and respect. It that bit of information is true and it is not connected to the crime, I feel it should be left out.

What have i missed???????

If Lee is the father, I believe it gives Casey a motive...so then it would be part of the case.  I worked in a funeral home for many years, and I don't mean to sound callous but the whole point of a funeral is for the LIVING so that they can have a chance to say goodbye.  I think the public needs to know the truth because many out there believe that something like this can never happen in a family, or if it does happen, it doesn't happen in such an affluent, suburban neighborhood.  To glaze over that part of a situation, or sweep it under the rug, is wrong, IMO, and Casey and Lee deserve to be held accountable in the court of public opinion and our legal courts for what they have done....because having a child with a brother is illegal anyway and I hope if that is the case, Lee and Casey both pay a huge price for doing something so horrendous!

Don't throw nanners at me!

Where has this come from??Is there no biological father???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 01:20:27 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me

The more I hear, the sicker I become. And I don't think we have heard the half of it yet.

Time to get ready. If that is at all possible.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 01:20:52 PM
i would guess that if there was no animal activity, there would be dried up skin and organs and such...if even a bit of those is accessible, it seems like LE would be able to tell if there was chloroform, xanax, or another sedative used at all.  Also drug testing via the hair would be very helpful to find out if Caylee had been drugged for long periods of time.

Remember what the defense said a while back...something about how Caylee MAY have been in the trunk and if she was she MAY have overdosed on sedatives...to me that was the defense admitting the complete truth about what happened in a way, what else could those statements mean, if not??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 01:20:59 PM
Is anyone watching CNN right now? Someone on another baord just said that it was said that hair(which we knew already) and EYE COLOR matched Caylee's. How can her eyes still be there. Is that possible?

Determining eye color I don't think is possible after all this time.  I have seen pictures of corpses after just several days decomposition.  There really isn't much left of they eyeball.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:21:06 PM
Anyone know if there is a back gate in the fence around the back yard?  I'm thinking she took the body out of trunk, through garage and while trying to figure out what to do with it (and borrow shovel) she put it down a few times in the back yard ... which is why cadaver dogs hit - then proceeded to the woods (?)

It's a pretty long ways to be walking with a body.  Also, people who are live in this area have said that the area behind the Anthony's home is built up now with houses, it's not just open area.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:22:44 PM
The party is over for Casey...her attorneys know this.  The only reason they wanted to be in on the identification and autopsy is to see for themselves.  They need not worry, they will get their chance...every accused person in the United States will get discovery.  It's rule of law...but this time the law won't work for Casey...it will work against her.  Baez should have convinced Casey to make a deal...that time is passed and now the prosecution has a gold mine of evidence to, at the very least, prove Caylee is dead.  Put two and two together and you get a mother that did not notify anyone of her child's missing for over 30 days and then has lied every which way to Sunday about who, what and where.  Now you have remains of a child that with patience and time will be revealed to be Caylee.  All they need now is confirmation of the maggots, bugs, soil and tissue being consistent with Caylee and her surroundings and it's over for Casey. Casey has placed herself in a hole here...the Sawgrass apartments is where she claims she left Caylee...not in her backyard or in the pool.  Find things consistent with that home and it brings it all back to Casey.Yep, 2 + 2 really does equal 4.
And with all you outlined, it would make sense, at least to me, that Baez explains to Casey that she doesn't stand a chance at trial, and pleads guilty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: NewfieMonkey on December 12, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Anyone know if there is a back gate in the fence around the back yard?  I'm thinking she took the body out of trunk, through garage and while trying to figure out what to do with it (and borrow shovel) she put it down a few times in the back yard ... which is why cadaver dogs hit - then proceeded to the woods (?)

It's a pretty long ways to be walking with a body.  Also, people who are live in this area have said that the area behind the Anthony's home is built up now with houses, it's not just open area.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/mapbody.jpg)
That is much further than I thought!  KC wouldn't exert herself that much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 01:22:54 PM
Pages back someone, I'm sorry don't remember who, was discussing the ring that Cindy was talking about with Casey during one of the jail visits. I found it really odd that Cindy brought up that ring while discussing her missing granddaughter, it came out of left field. Maybe the ring was in the bag? There has to be something about that ring, it made no sense to discuss it.

I remember this!!!!  Cindy asked Casey who gave it to her and Casey said Jeff Hopkins.

I wonder who REALLY gave her that ring...I'm guessing that she stole it from someone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:23:26 PM
something I found on decomp in water. It does preserve the body. And with a plastic bag, more so, I'd guess.

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/notes/water.pdf (http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/notes/water.pdf)

Sinking, putrefaction and refloating
A body in water will usually sink but because the specific gravity of a body is very close to that of water then small variations e.g. air trapped in clothing have a considerable effect on buoyancy. Having sunk to the bottom the body will remain there until putrefactive gas formation decreases the specific gravity of the body and creates sufficient buoyancy to allow it to rise to the surface and float. Heavy clothing and weights attached to the body may delay but will not usually prevent the body rising. Putrefaction proceeds at a slower rate in water than in air, in sea water than in fresh water and in running water than in stagnant water. The principal determinant is the temperature of the water so that in deep very cold water e.g. the North American Great Lakes or the ocean the body may never resurface.
Great find GnM! 

I heard last night on our local news, who was covering this story, that it is likely the trial will be moved to Naples.  I know Monken had mentioned it several times before, but this was the first time I had heard our news team here cover it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:23:45 PM
Kobi is on CourtTV right now. I am still trying to get my chatroom going the damn website is down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 12, 2008, 01:24:40 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on December 12, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
WTF does this girl have a soul??

No. Casey does not IMO. And here's why:

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/caylee_007.jpg)

Look at this baby girl. How could she do this to her?

Damnit, I would have loved this child to no end. 




I don't understand this myself. I have taken this case VERY personal. My husband get's upset with me and says "why do you cry or get mad when there is nothing you can do? Or if one our children went missing do think they'd care?" I told him There is something about this little girl, I've grown to love her. He said " what about the other kids that are missing?" I said " your right" But not one of them have touched me like this one. WHY?  I really don't know and I don't think I ever will. I'm actually beginning to think it's because I have a little girl who is almost three and kinda looks like Caylee. Dark hair ,Dark eyes. This deeply hurts me. Most moms would agree with me..A mom would think the worst pain she could go through is birth UNTIL you lose a child. BUT not in Casey's case. She took that precious, and WHY?  If she didn't want her, The grandparents sure did! But NO! Casey is so damn selfish, she didn't want ANYONE to have her. If other inmates can't touch her? I hope a guard f***s her up and bad! Sorry for the last sentence, a bit harsh i know... Just very angry mom who doesn't understand WHY?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 


Can someone back-up to conversations last month about the white trash bag with a yellow pull-string (if my memory serves me correctly), which was seen in KC's trunk by, I think, a man working at the tow yard and maybe GA.  There were pages of speculation here about what all it held after the maggots were found.  All morning, my curious mind has been thinking about if Caylee's body had been in the trunk, and in the white plastic bag, and again transferred to the black trash bag, which was found yesterday, there had to be more than just KC's involvement.  I don't know about you, but at our house, it usually takes two people to fill a trash bag when there's a lot of trash...one to hold the bag and one to fill it.  Maybe my mind is just in rambling mode today.  

IIRC the bag of trash that was in the trunk of her car was from tony's apt

Where were the maggots retrieved from, which I thought forensics tied to Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: kirbysquirrel on December 12, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
Did anyone else notice the green pesticide sprayer that they took from the A's house? Right after they show the blue shop vac ... caught my attention...strange.

Someone probably has already commented in this (am trying to catch up) but my first thought was whomever cleaned the car probably sprayed trunk with insectacide to kill maggots, larvae, etc.   JMO

Ok way OT but had to say what a handsome squirrel   ::MonkeyRoll::

Thanks!  Compliments of Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:26:10 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,
I see by the bags under every monkey's eyes, ya;ll have been here all night.
I would share my coffee, but alas, my coffee icon has been misplaced.
Now, who is this new atty for casey??
Linda K Baden is Dr Micheal Baden's wife a a criminal defense atty who was co counsel at Phil Spector's first trial..
She wasn't anything special. IMO

oic, hm, does that mean she will take first chair in defense>>> is she a death penalty lawyer?   Yikes, I would not want to be caseys atty.  I think they are going to bring back that death penalty for casey.....

and, if casey did put caylee there, naked, well, I have no mercy anymore for her.

Also, I too suffer with huge panic attacks.  As I am allergic, ( a native thing) I do not take any meds , I just deal with it, and stay away from what makes me panic, which could be anything.. I want casey to have to just deal with this panic too. I do not see how giving her a zanax, in jail,  a pill that maybe had something to do with caylees demise, will make life easier for her. She knew all along what she had done. I say, let the panic begin, as well as nightmares.  It is time she is forced to face what horrible thing she has done.

Forgive me Creator for having these ill feelings for another, but, I think it is time this society takes back our world, and make parents be accountable for their actions towards the children they create.
I am sorry too Kio, caseys childhood friend, who told le in  the beginning where casey would put caylee. Kio wanted to adopt Caylee, but cin put a kibosh on that too, ultimatly leading to caylees death. A decision I wonder if cin regrets now...mio


I totally agree mio, and well said! 

I also have severe panic attacks and deal with them without meds.  It IS possible!  For Casey to be panicking now, IMO, is only part of the consequences that she OUGHT to be allowed to face.  Rushing to her side with meds in hand is, IMO, only enabling her further. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me
I want them to throw that Death Penalty back at her.  I want her to feel the anxiety build up as she is faced with her last terrifying moments of life, just as she did to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 01:26:33 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


I WONDER WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
I want to hug the guy who Stood to talk

The Man who wants to Protect Caylee from the Media Circus - That she be protected after all this comes out. That her rights be protected.

There was a case years ago about a child found dead in my area -

I will forget the tactless sick words that were said about her body when it was found, the exploitative words that were stated, live on the air - Was no one's business to say.
All in the sake of ratings .... No respect for that little Girl or her family.










This post got me to thinking,  if LE finds that Lee is Caylee's father, maybe we won't be given this info "out of respect for Caylee".  I know that a proper burial is warranted and respectful, but I think that if Lee and Casey's nasty little secret is kept, we are actually doing Caylee a Disservice. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I don't think so. The little girl needs some peace and respect. It that bit of information is true and it is not connected to the crime, I feel it should be left out.

What have i missed???????

If Lee is the father, I believe it gives Casey a motive...so then it would be part of the case.  I worked in a funeral home for many years, and I don't mean to sound callous but the whole point of a funeral is for the LIVING so that they can have a chance to say goodbye.  I think the public needs to know the truth because many out there believe that something like this can never happen in a family, or if it does happen, it doesn't happen in such an affluent, suburban neighborhood.  To glaze over that part of a situation, or sweep it under the rug, is wrong, IMO, and Casey and Lee deserve to be held accountable in the court of public opinion and our legal courts for what they have done....because having a child with a brother is illegal anyway and I hope if that is the case, Lee and Casey both pay a huge price for doing something so horrendous!

Don't throw nanners at me!

Where has this come from??Is there no biological father???

The above is just me stating why, if Lee is the father, the public should know.  Also, he and Casey should be prosecuted separately for it, if possible, because it is illegal.  We still don't know who he is, Casey claimed it was Immaculate Conception, IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: PookyBear on December 12, 2008, 01:26:54 PM
Kobi is on CourtTV right now. I am still trying to get my chatroom going the damn website is down.
thanks Willen --


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:27:34 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::
WHAT!?!?!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:28:11 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.


(Posted this 2 times already LOL)

I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory. And this could also explain you thinking that Caylee could have pulled it off. She wouldn't have been able do that if she died while being drugged.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: open-mind on December 12, 2008, 01:28:34 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 

george seen caylie on the 16th, so if casey also got rid of caylie's body on the 16th, would it not have been too soon to have decompositon?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:29:12 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.
I am glad you mentioned about the hands tied. I was thinking Casey set this up to look like an abduction, mouth covered, I wonder if hands and feet were tied? I just didn't want to go this direction, but since she liked crime shows, it would fit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:29:13 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


I WONDER WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::

Me too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:29:28 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


I WONDER WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::

National Fox News?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
On TruTV just now, they showed a press conference held today with the defense team. Baez was asked who is paying him, he replied that it is nobody's business who is paying him. That it was "confidential."

pfffffffffft


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:30:09 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 


Can someone back-up to conversations last month about the white trash bag with a yellow pull-string (if my memory serves me correctly), which was seen in KC's trunk by, I think, a man working at the tow yard and maybe GA.  There were pages of speculation here about what all it held after the maggots were found.  All morning, my curious mind has been thinking about if Caylee's body had been in the trunk, and in the white plastic bag, and again transferred to the black trash bag, which was found yesterday, there had to be more than just KC's involvement.  I don't know about you, but at our house, it usually takes two people to fill a trash bag when there's a lot of trash...one to hold the bag and one to fill it.  Maybe my mind is just in rambling mode today.  

IIRC the bag of trash that was in the trunk of her car was from tony's apt

Where were the maggots retrieved from, which I thought forensics tied to Caylee?

IMO the bag of trash was in the trunk along with the remains and/or left over body fluids and the maggots were on outside of the bag b/c of its contact with the remains. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:31:29 PM
OMG!!!! ON FOXNEWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE HOUSE THAT TIES IT TO THE BODY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked::
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

wow  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 01:31:38 PM
In this map you can see the houses behind Hopespring Dr..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 01:31:41 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
I love Scared Monkey's b.c Websleuths is a pain in the ass to get on when there is big news like this but you can always count on Scared Monkeys to be up and working.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:32:37 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.


(Posted this 2 times already LOL)

I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory. And this could also explain you thinking that Caylee could have pulled it off. She wouldn't have been able do that if she died while being drugged.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead

That is a very good possibility, but I also feel she did the tape to perhaps look like an abduction, if her body was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 12, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
I don't know if this has been said as I was just able to get on here for a few minutes. 
I think the fact that they hired the high profile like overnight is very telling.  Also, the fact that GA and CA got another defense attorney is also very telling in my opinion. 
Of course this is all just my opinion. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 01:33:02 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Has this been on the Orlando news yet!!!???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
SO they found something at the scene that led them to the A's and they found something at the A's house."Absolutely" was the word used about finding something at the A's..


SO I am thinking this has to be something that is obvious to the eye...A match possibly (like the necklaces) possibly two different items.  I cant see Beary saying "Absolutely" if it was an item(s) that had to go through scientific exams to be linked, I believe it is something that LE could look at and say "YES"!

Of course they could be bluffing to really scare the crap out of the A's


And although I realize there's nothing funny about this case, sometimes having a sense of humor does help in getting thru it all.  So, I just had to laugh when Beary used the word "absolutely", am sure they are as sick of hearing that word from the A's and friends as we are.  Good point you make on his using that word as if in underlining the info as a very definite fact.  They are probably happy to finally have something that is definite. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 01:34:39 PM
maybe there was a towel in the bag


If Casey was drugging her and letting her sleep in the trunk ("Nanny"), would she have provided a blanket and pillow for Caylee? Just a thought.


Or a small quilt...maybe a patterned one which may match something in that front bedroom qhich they searched last night ? 

Maybe she used some kind of bedding from the house and ordered the replacement from JC Penney?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 01:35:10 PM
I don't know if this has been said as I was just able to get on here for a few minutes. 
I think the fact that they hired the high profile like overnight is very telling.  Also, the fact that GA and CA got another defense attorney is also very telling in my opinion. 
Of course this is all just my opinion. 

The A's have known since the beginning that Caylee was killed.  And I believed they tried to cover-up as much as possible in order to save Casey.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:35:13 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:35:21 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::
THANK YOU MONKEN!!  (Wanna just hug that little monkey of yours!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:35:58 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.


(Posted this 2 times already LOL)

I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory. And this could also explain you thinking that Caylee could have pulled it off. She wouldn't have been able do that if she died while being drugged.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead

That is a very good possibility, but I also feel she did the tape to perhaps look like an abduction, if her body was found.

That is true that she could have been using it to make them think Caylee was kidnapped.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 01:36:13 PM
CCCCRRRRAAAPPPPPPP!!! Phonecall!! BRB!!!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/SearchDepartment.aspx?SearchString=winnie+the+pooh&JSEnabled=false&mscssid=630d85a241d0c488194edb75a34554781xMnVNoV5a1oxMnVNoV5a1W200B4D385424FBC41693CE59C08ABBFE17920834718&cmResetCat=true&hdnOnGo=true&submit+search.x=0&submit+search.y=0 (http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/SearchDepartment.aspx?SearchString=winnie+the+pooh&JSEnabled=false&mscssid=630d85a241d0c488194edb75a34554781xMnVNoV5a1oxMnVNoV5a1W200B4D385424FBC41693CE59C08ABBFE17920834718&cmResetCat=true&hdnOnGo=true&submit+search.x=0&submit+search.y=0)

winnie the pooh at JCP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:36:47 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/18262363/detail.html


Sheriff: Evidence Links Remains Of Child To Caylee Anthony Home
Missing Caylee Last Seen In Mid-June

POSTED: 6:36 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 12:37 pm EST December 12, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A medical examiner found evidence among a child's remains that link them to the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents, the county sheriff said Friday, offering the strongest indication yet that the remains may be those of the missing 3-year-old girl.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said investigators searched the home late Thursday night into early Friday morning after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked it to the house." He would not say what clues were found.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

The remains were found Thursday by a utility worker on a wooded lot less than a half-mile from the house where Caylee lived with her grandparents and her mother, Casey Anthony.

Casey Anthony, 22, was charged in October with first-degree murder, even though the toddler's body has not yet been found. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but she didn't report Caylee missing until July.

Beary said his investigators and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

Asked if he believed if the remains are Caylee, Beary said: "I think it's a good possibility, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis."

There are no other missing-child cases in the area.

"I say my prayers every day and one of them is to solve this case," said Beary, who is retiring in January. "I just hope that we solve the case on my watch."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 01:36:49 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

I think it was Winnie the Pooh. 

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 12, 2008, 01:36:56 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::
Please keep posting updates!   I have my granddaughter today and so I'm watching kids programming and catching this when I can.   TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
I am laughing over how much credit we gave this slunt Casey....when in reality, she kept it simple.  WHAT A WASTE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:38:05 PM
It's just a clearer look into Crazy's head because most children or family members killed by a relative tend to place a body with a favorite article and cover the face, taking great care with the body
Crazy duct taped her, placed her in a trash bag and dumped her..skank
It was a very depersonalized way to dispose of a loved one, especially her child.. makes me wonder how much of the horror Crazy may have blocked out..skank
Even Andrea Yates took her dead babies and placed them in the bed and covered them with sheets or blankets
I worked as a psych nurse for the second half of my career and these types of people are fascinating and usually follow certain patterns. Casey isn't insane but she is certainly swimming in pathology and directly tied to her mother with it. She is an amazing case study..skank

I think you're spot on with this, flamom.  Am thinking it does show Casey's complete disregard for Caylee, and possibly points to the level of 'rage and revenge' toward her parents that she may have been feeling.  I can see the prosecution having a field day with just the info on how Caylee's body was 'disposed' of. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 01:38:22 PM
Ok so early this morning they said something with the remains linked it to the house...

And now we are hearing something at the house links it to the body...

Or are they saying the samething just in a different way..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 01:38:40 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 01:38:51 PM
I don't know if this has been said as I was just able to get on here for a few minutes. 
I think the fact that they hired the high profile like overnight is very telling.  Also, the fact that GA and CA got another defense attorney is also very telling in my opinion. 
Of course this is all just my opinion. 
Yes I thought it was interesting that all of a sudden you hear the A's had another attorney.
Jose knows that is Caylee. That is why he ran to the jail. That is why Casey had to be sedated. That is why he got the new attorney to be co-counsel. So I do agree with you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 01:39:23 PM
I am laughing over how much credit we gave this slunt Casey....when in reality, she kept it simple.  WHAT A WASTE!

She really is a small girl, with a small mind!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 12, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

I would think Caylee would have been able to rip the tape of herself...unless her hand were tied. Hate, hate, hate to think that, but nothing else makes sense.


(Posted this 2 times already LOL)

I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory. And this could also explain you thinking that Caylee could have pulled it off. She wouldn't have been able do that if she died while being drugged.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead

That is a very good possibility, but I also feel she did the tape to perhaps look like an abduction, if her body was found.
I agree. IF Caylee really was "gagged" -- I believe Casey would try to "hide" that fact. She would have removed the duct tape before disposal. I think sghe was trying to "stage" an abduction.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 12, 2008, 01:40:54 PM
It's just a clearer look into Crazy's head because most children or family members killed by a relative tend to place a body with a favorite article and cover the face, taking great care with the body
Crazy duct taped her, placed her in a trash bag and dumped her..skank
It was a very depersonalized way to dispose of a loved one, especially her child.. makes me wonder how much of the horror Crazy may have blocked out..skank
Even Andrea Yates took her dead babies and placed them in the bed and covered them with sheets or blankets
I worked as a psych nurse for the second half of my career and these types of people are fascinating and usually follow certain patterns. Casey isn't insane but she is certainly swimming in pathology and directly tied to her mother with it. She is an amazing case study..skank

I think you're spot on with this, flamom.  Am thinking it does show Casey's complete disregard for Caylee, and possibly points to the level of 'rage and revenge' toward her parents that she may have been feeling.  I can see the prosecution having a field day with just the info on how Caylee's body was 'disposed' of. 


JB better be working a plea deal at this point. He better do it fast before more information comes out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 12:54 pm EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
I am laughing over how much credit we gave this slunt Casey....when in reality, she kept it simple.  WHAT A WASTE!
She kept it very simple. The monkeys who worked so hard on maps and phone pings I just want to say a big Thank-You.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
From JC Penney

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:42:56 PM
Has anyone seen Lee today?

What reason was given for Mallory going to the home?

Tia.

Lee was in court this morning.  Also, one of the news stations saw him at his home.

The neighbors have reported that Mallory is house sitting and goes to the house the same time every day to feed and care for dogs.

Thank you Today.  Well at least we know Mallory is still in the picture.
And very pregnant.

IMHO not very pregnant.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2n72jvd.jpg)

Yeah I agree--she doesn't look pregnant at all--she's skinny and even with the baggy shirt on you'd think there'd be a bump but I'm not seeing it

Pregnant or not?

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/Mallory.jpg)

I don't know if Mallory is pregnant or not, yet it does not look as tho she is 'VERY' pregnant.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:43:49 PM
I agree. IF Caylee really was "gagged" -- I believe Casey would try to "hide" that fact. She would have removed the duct tape before disposal. I think sghe was trying to "stage" an abduction.

Agree. Ususally when a criminal tries to stage a crime scene, law enforcement sees through it rather quickly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mgoblue on December 12, 2008, 01:45:09 PM
I agree. IF Caylee really was "gagged" -- I believe Casey would try to "hide" that fact. She would have removed the duct tape before disposal. I think sghe was trying to "stage" an abduction.

Agree. Ususally when a criminal tries to stage a crime scene, law enforcement sees through it rather quickly.

If this was indeed staged, you can pretty much rule out an accidental death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:46:13 PM
I wonder what the Anthonys are going to say on LK, I have to admit I will watch, because this should be interesting. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
Ok so early this morning they said something with the remains linked it to the house...

And now we are hearing something at the house links it to the body...

Or are they saying the samething just in a different way..

foxnews.com front page says this

--Clues Found at Caylee Kin Home

Cops searching the home of missing Caylee's grandparents say they've found something of interest--


But the story is the same one we've been reading.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
(http://a966.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/40/l_f088882f5d8f8441c22d8feb5ca624b5.jpg)
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/l_f0d132bd4ede484ba5c69c04aac74515.jpg)
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/2/l_202aed13931c4ee68ccbc2dc6184c622.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mtnmom on December 12, 2008, 01:46:44 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Buckeye on December 12, 2008, 01:46:58 PM
I think Casey got rid of Caylee's body on June 16th.  The problem is whatever remains leaked into the trunk of her car continued to decompose and smell.  This was a big problem for Casey.  I think Casey made attempts to clean and coverup the odor until even she couldn't stand it any more and left her car at Amscot. 

I think Casey may have placed Caley somewhere, or even in the trunk, for awhile.  At least, I think she was placed into the trunk after she was dead for awhile.  I don't think old vomit, urine or feces, smells like decomposition.  That smell is pretty distinct.  Even if there were body fluids in the trunk, I don't think they would smell like decomposition.  I think only decomp, smells like decomp.  How quickly that happens, I have no idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 01:47:05 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 12:54 pm EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 12, 2008, 01:47:24 PM
I am laughing over how much credit we gave this slunt Casey....when in reality, she kept it simple.  WHAT A WASTE!
Yeah, isn't that the truth?
She is lazy and dumb.
And she has been used to manipulating her parents, lying to the, and doing any old way she wants, with no repercussions! And her parents always getting her out of one mess after another.  Well her time has come for payback now!
 And we all know, paybacks are hell!
 CA and GA can't get her out of it this time!
Karma's a bitch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:47:36 PM
Thank you Dolce. A different style than what is pictured on the Web site. Perhaps slore called JCP to see if she could still get the old style. ??? Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: kirbysquirrel on December 12, 2008, 01:48:19 PM
I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee while she was in the trunk of her car and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead.

Interesting theory...I have read posts where others have mentioned red-like rash around Caylee's mouth that they attributed to sippy cup.  If duct tape on mouth in above circumstances happened more than once, could also cause redness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:48:30 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 01:48:35 PM
I wonder what the Anthonys are going to say on LK, I have to admit I will watch, because this should be interesting. ::MonkeyEek::

Sucker I am! I swore off watching Cindy and George after Wednesday night's Larry King show. Lasted all of what, one night?

I too, will have to watch. I assume it will just be a call-in interview. Maybe they will go to a local TV station to be live on camera. We'll see.

Unfortunately, I will have to watch.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 01:48:50 PM
Oops sorry, this just cant be right.  There is no mouth!!!  Almost always when you see a skull, there is only the top half, seperated at the jaw bone?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:49:02 PM
Dolce.. thanks for posting the pics, she had a cute little bedroom, she certainly loved stuffed animals.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
(http://a965.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/124/l_440e8a6255731b899c6021bf04653a74.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:49:55 PM
(http://a311.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_5957cacd3e9d2aaa997a65de3a3197e6.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 01:50:03 PM
I posted this earlier what does everyone think:

It had crossed my mind that after leaving the tow yard, George found Caylee's body in the trunk where the tire goes and disposed of her.  I thought this b/c of Casey's insistence that she didn't know where she was.  I always believed that.  Then w/ her wanting to speak w/ George from the jail. I thought maybe George didn't want to tell b/c it would be damning to Casey and Casey couldn't tell b/c it would be damning for George.  That in a sense, they were protecting each other.  I believe that Cindy went back to work from the tow yard.

I don't really think that happened b/c I do believe George has been beside himself in this and don't think he could go to work after that.  I really think that George and Cindy are victims in this also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 01:50:06 PM
I have a gruesome question here.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If the plastic bag had been tightly sealed and only came open when the worker picked it up, is it possible that Caylee's remains were not all that decomposed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
Maybe Casey is going to turn out to be a more "typical" mom/murderer than we thought.  The body was found close to the house, which is usually the case in child murders by a parent.  If she is typical, she will have put something precious to the child in the bag with her, or at least some sign of a comfort or expression of the bond.  It could be a blanket, which is usually the case, a cross with the beads, a toy, anything really that might have provided Caylee some "warmth" in her tomb.  But I am not so sure that is the case.  Maybe Casey is as strange and cold as we have expected and there is nothing with the child but the bag and duct tape and perhaps some fuzz or fibers that may have come from the home.

The more I think about the child being unclothed, the more I go to the bathtub as the place she died.  If Casey simply lashed out at the child due to noise, crying, etc., chances are the child would have been clothed and Casey would not have removed the clothes unless they had evidence on them. 

Casey worried that her mom would never forgive her.  To me, that indicates she did something that directly caused the disappearance of Caylee.  I have thought all along she would not feel guilty or fear facing her mom over a kidnapping by a nanny she had known for years.  But she would feel guilty and afraid if she was asleep, on the phone, drugged up or whatever and Caylee drowned in the bathtub.  Or if she killed Caylee in the bathtub as the woman in Texas killed her children.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:50:23 PM
Oops sorry, this just cant be right.  There is no mouth!!!  Almost always when you see a skull, there is only the top half, seperated at the jaw bone?????

It's being reported today there was soft tissue and hair left. I too am having a hard time imagining how the duct tape is still there after all this time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
I am not trying to make anyone sad, just posting pics that have items from the A's house that could be linked to that bag, things that are currently being discussed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 01:51:00 PM
I have always said she wrapped her in a baby blanket and put toys in the bag......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:51:03 PM
(http://a311.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_5957cacd3e9d2aaa997a65de3a3197e6.jpg)

Slore's bed or slore's parents' bed? Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
Forgive me if this has been discussed already, BUT...

The head wouldnt separate from the body unless it was severed or the neck was broken..in my opinion, for the skull to have rolled out, I am think she broke her neck..

Remember the search for "neck breaking" onm the family computer?? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
I posted this earlier what does everyone think:

It had crossed my mind that after leaving the tow yard, George found Caylee's body in the trunk where the tire goes and disposed of her.  I thought this b/c of Casey's insistence that she didn't know where she was.  I always believed that.  Then w/ her wanting to speak w/ George from the jail. I thought maybe George didn't want to tell b/c it would be damning to Casey and Casey couldn't tell b/c it would be damning for George.  That in a sense, they were protecting each other.  I believe that Cindy went back to work from the tow yard.

I don't really think that happened b/c I do believe George has been beside himself in this and don't think he could go to work after that.  I really think that George and Cindy are victims in this also.

UNLESS GEORGE FOUND THAT BAG and didn't look in it and just threw it into the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kiwi on December 12, 2008, 01:51:36 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet
This picture of the lower teeth could be used to compare position of teeth with the skull now. The picture would have to be very close to June to be used. DNA  in the end will prove ultimately for court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 12, 2008, 01:51:50 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 12:54 pm EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

I hope the DNA or fingerprints Dr. Baden spoke of is on that duct tape. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:52:56 PM
I have a gruesome question here.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If the plastic bag had been tightly sealed and only came open when the worker picked it up, is it possible that Caylee's remains were not all that decomposed?

Add in under water and YES. Now, they will still be badly decomposed but perhaps not as badly as we would think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 01:53:02 PM
I'm wondering here anyone have thoughts?  How the defense is being paid?  I just heard of all the high profile people on the defense team.  Dr. Laura Baden(Dr.Baden's wife) Dr. Henry Lee, Dr. Koblelenski...those people dont come cheap and aren't known to just volunteer their time either.

I am wondering that, too.  Do they have a wealthy backer?  Why, oh why, would anyone pay to help the defense of KC?  There has to be something in it for them.

Maybe George's parents ?   It's curious, foe shizzle!

Okay, to avoid the emotional aspect, have an odd thought -  if a photo is not copyrighted - does the person who took the pic or the one in possession have legal right to ownership, right to copyright and to sell?  Thus, could Biaz (Or Casey) sue George and Cindy for selling the pic's Casey took?
On the duct tape - re skull - I would think the hair would not have decomposed, thus still stuck to the tape and the length would certainly indicate if tape over nose and or mouth of skull.  In addition, I wonder if there was a cloth - possibly soaked in the CF attached to the duct tape.  That certainly would be instant reason to look for a match of the fabric.
Just trying to stay cerebral today - yes, to avoid the pain of all involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:53:18 PM
(http://a372.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_46b0c354d598ba24d973e44093f55b6b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 01:53:23 PM
I love Scared Monkey's b.c Websleuths is a pain in the ass to get on when there is big news like this but you can always count on Scared Monkeys to be up and working.
  Having things moved and deleted doesn't bother you?   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 01:53:25 PM
If cindy and george went to great links to cover up for casey(IMO THEY DID) I can only imagine how they feel now that this is all coming to light.. That Caylee had something with her that led right back to their own house, and that Casey was too lazy to make sure that didnt happen...

All that covering for what?

They should have stuck with Caylee.....

I love KARMA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 12, 2008, 01:53:38 PM
I have a gruesome question here.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If the plastic bag had been tightly sealed and only came open when the worker picked it up, is it possible that Caylee's remains were not all that decomposed?
It states in this article, that there was hair and tissue recovered yesterday. The hair is the same as Caylee's.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:54:48 PM
(http://a311.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_5957cacd3e9d2aaa997a65de3a3197e6.jpg)

Slore's bed or slore's parents' bed? Anyone know?
Rental's bed.  I have the slores coming up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 12, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 12:54 pm EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

They better look at George with a different set of Glasses
jmho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mammy on December 12, 2008, 01:55:14 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html

Duct Tape Found Stuck To Mouth Of Child's Remains
Friday, December 12, 2008 – updated: 12:54 pm EST December 12, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child's mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

I hope the DNA or fingerprints Dr. Baden spoke of is on that duct tape. 

If fiber was found on the duct tape, le may have matched it to the A's house.  That may be the connection between the body and the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

They could have had an upright, with few attachments -  a canister, with many attachments - a handheld smaller dustbuster - and a shop vac, that can pick up liquids.  That would make 4, without being OCD... IMO.  Unless I'm in denial, which is fully possible.  ahaha!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
Forgive me if this has been discussed already, BUT...

The head wouldnt separate from the body unless it was severed or the neck was broken..in my opinion, for the skull to have rolled out, I am think she broke her neck..

Remember the search for "neck breaking" onm the family computer?? ::MonkeyNoNo::

THANK YOU NIKKI!!!! I have been wondering about this especially since we now hear there was still some tissue left....

At the same time that infuriates me even more!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2008, 01:55:23 PM
Hey Monkeys, this has probably already been asked. Cindy kept asking KC where her Tiffany ring is and who gave it to her, etc.

I don't wear jewelry I do know some of their rings are heavy, could KC have backhanded Caylee and hit her in the head with that ring? Would that knock a kid out if she hit her smack in the middle of the forehead? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
I am not trying to make anyone sad, just posting pics that have items from the A's house that could be linked to that bag, things that are currently being discussed.
Oh no I hope you didn't take my post that way, while looking at the bedroom pics, I was even thinking maybe a favorite stuffed animal was in the bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 12, 2008, 01:56:46 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 01:56:52 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html

Link Found Between Child's Remains and Missing Florida Girl Caylee Anthony
Friday, December 12, 2008

A medical examiner found a connection between the skeletal remains of a child and the house of missing Florida girl Caylee Anthony, the local sheriff said Friday.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said the Anthonys' home was searched early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked (them) to the house."

Police also said the body seemed to be the same age and size as Caylee.

Beary declined to elaborate on what clues were discovered. The property was also searched Thursday night.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

Asked if he believed the remains were Caylee's, Beary told NBC's "Today" show: "My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure."

There are also no other similar missing-child cases in the area.

Meanwhile, a judge denied defense attorneys' request Friday to have their own experts present during testing of the remains and the autopsy.


Circuit Judge Stan Strickland said he believed defense representatives would interfere with medical examiners if they were in the room during the identification of the body and the determination of a cause of death.

Lawyers also were in court in an effort to preserve the evidence collected Thursday.

Investigators were hurrying to identify the skeletal remains of the small child, found in a wooded area near the Anthony family home.

A team of medical examiners and detectives hoped the bones, discovered by a water meter reader, would help them solve the 6-month-old mystery of the child's whereabouts.

Caylee, who would have turned 3 in August, was last seen in June. Her mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony is behind bars and charged with her murder.

Beary said his detectives and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

"Now the investigation continues," Beary said. "There is a lot of lab work to do. There is a lot of DNA work to do. There is a lot of crime scene work to do."

The worker stumbled upon the bones in a bag bound with duct tape less than a half-mile from where Caylee lived with her mother and grandparents in Orange County, Fla., near Orlando.

There were reports that a skull with duct tape around the mouth area rolled out of the bag when the utility worker picked it up. He had apparently gone into the woods to relieve himself.

Casey Anthony was indicted in October on first-degree murder and other charges, even without a body. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but she didn't report her missing until July.

For the past several months, Anthony's family, police and volunteers from around the country have searched for the little girl. They had overlooked the wooded lot where the skull was found first because it was flooded after heavy rains and later because it was fenced off.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 01:56:56 PM
Warning decomp info. please skip if you do not care to read. Now this is saying water makes it happen faster, but I'm assuming without a plastic bag. And I heard an expert on NG way before the find saying water may SLOW decomp. 

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/14858 (http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/14858)

-decomposition
in fact, decomposition begins at the moment of death. At this stage it is caused by two factors: autolysis, the breaking down of tissues by the body's own internal chemicals and enzymes; and putrefaction, the breakdown of tissues by bacteria. These processes release gases that are the chief source of the characteristic odour of dead bodies. As decomposition occurs, the internal body temperature tends to rise again.

In the time to follow, the rate and the manner in which a human or animal body decomposes is strongly affected by a number of factors. In a roughly descending degree of importance, those factors include temperature, access by insects and rodents, burial, and depth of burial, trauma including wounds and crushing blows, humidity or dryness, rainfall, body size and weight, prior embalming, clothing, and the surface the body rests on.

An unembalmed adult body buried six feet deep in ordinary soil without a coffin normally takes ten to twelve years to decompose fully to a skeleton, given a temperate climate. Immerse the body in water, and skeletonization occurs approximately four times faster; expose it to air, and it occurs eight times faster. The skeleton itself is not permanent either; acids in soils can reduce it to unrecognisable components as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: bellesmommy on December 12, 2008, 01:58:31 PM
If cindy and george went to great links to cover up for casey(IMO THEY DID) I can only imagine how they feel now that this is all coming to light.. That Caylee had something with her that led right back to their own house, and that Casey was too lazy to make sure that didnt happen...

All that covering for what?

They should have stuck with Caylee.....

I love KARMA!
Oooohh, I so agree. 
George and Cindy should have been a voice for that precious little girl. Instead they've lied and God knows what else they've done... for the evil Casey!  And, Casey would sell them to the highest bidder if she could! 
So disgusting and so sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2008, 01:58:43 PM
I think I posted this earlier...can't remember.
Sheriff: Clues link body to Anthony 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 10:03 AM EST 

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- A medical examiner found evidence among a child's remains that link them to the home of a missing toddler,
Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said Friday, offering the strongest indication yet that the remains may be those of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Sheriff Beary told NBC's "Today" show that investigators searched the home early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked it to the house." He did not elaborate on what those were.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8058117&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

more at site...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 01:59:06 PM
SLORES ROOM BEFORE

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/l_fa10b5c225974c80ad14f18c29e22802.jpg)
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/4/l_5ef982d8b2434554a4ec2993231456c5.jpg)

SLORES ROOM AFTER

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/26/l_5920c6a18e634303b8630cfdc761de38.jpg)
(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/29/l_a7590c4965df40d2a588bace1738c2f3.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:00:24 PM
I am not trying to make anyone sad, just posting pics that have items from the A's house that could be linked to that bag, things that are currently being discussed.
Oh no I hope you didn't take my post that way, while looking at the bedroom pics, I was even thinking maybe a favorite stuffed animal was in the bag.
No no I was not pointing that at anyone at all.  I just did not want anyone thinking I was mindlessly posting. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mtnmom on December 12, 2008, 02:00:27 PM
they might even find dog hairs that lead back to the anthonys dogs. Everything gets stuck to duck tape and staticky plastic garbage bags.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:00:47 PM
Janet: (and other monkeys who missed the court hearing this morning, raw video of it is here:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18265423/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tevye on December 12, 2008, 02:00:51 PM
I love Scared Monkey's b.c Websleuths is a pain in the ass to get on when there is big news like this but you can always count on Scared Monkeys to be up and working.
  Having things moved and deleted doesn't bother you?   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Or the THREAD MERGES! You go, you see a topic that's right on point, and then you click and find it's been merged into a 33 page thread! Waste, huge waste!!! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 02:00:57 PM
(http://a965.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/124/l_440e8a6255731b899c6021bf04653a74.jpg)

The deflated balloons are very sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
Just heard the report on CNN  that something found at the location of the body has lead police back to the Anthony.s house and then I read on here all the stuff they took from the Anthony's resedence.....Gosh!   what in the world did they find I wonder,   This isnt looking good for the Anthony.s......I hope we find out real soon....Oh morning Monkeys..............I have to work today but decided to jump in here and see what info I could scratch up before I leave,,,,,,,,,,,how dare work interfer with what is going on with this case right now........I cant believe I still have to work......no one should be working when there is stuff we dont know still out there.......lol

True HH, this is a 'surreal' time, like I am surprised that the whole world keeps on revolving, the sun rose today, people going on about their business, as if nothing has happened.  When all I want to do is shout to the world, 'don't you know they just found Caylee, what's the matter with you people?'    ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
OKAY, FOXNEWS IS ABOUT TO HAVE THE SAME INFO ON AGAIN!!!!! MAYBE THEY'LL TELL WHAT THEY FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Kiwi on December 12, 2008, 02:01:58 PM
they might even find dog hairs that lead back to the anthonys dogs. Everything gets stuck to duck tape and staticky plastic garbage bags.
Very slick idea!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:02:20 PM
headline news just showed a picture of the bag and it looked like bedding or a pillow!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
I wonder what the Anthonys are going to say on LK, I have to admit I will watch, because this should be interesting. ::MonkeyEek::


Me too.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:03:04 PM
Let's think this through ... yes they will likely connect dirt, mulch, and/or sand back to the Anthony's yard, same for fibers from the trunk and house, and we have fingerprints and DNA too.

BUT something they found IMMEDIATELY cause LE to connect the remains with the Anthonys' house. Not just that they thought the body was Caylee's. An object. Something had to be there and it had to be glaringly obvious. The fiber evidence etc. will come later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:03:07 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big SNIP

She wasn't too upset ordering reeses peanut butter cups, lemonade, and granola bars right about the time she found out.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1212/18262865.pdf

Wow Russ - just who are all these folks depositing all this money for her to eat.  How in the hell do you "need" a sedative and a friggin reece cup at the same time?  Sick Biotch Casey - but not sick enough for insanity.  Hey Casey - my Christmas expression, just for you... HO HO HO  I am sure you get it.
Grrrrrr - someone take my keyboard away - I am now at the anger stage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 12, 2008, 02:04:39 PM
Please stay on topic.  No more discussion about other forums.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:04:51 PM
they might even find dog hairs that lead back to the anthonys dogs. Everything gets stuck to duck tape and staticky plastic garbage bags.
I have one dog, and it shocks me where her hair ends up. Through the years Xmas presents would always seem to have a Zoe hair on the tape. They have several pets, so I'm sure there are a hair or two on the tape or bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:05:27 PM
Let's think this through ... yes they will likely connect dirt, mulch, and/or sand back to the Anthony's yard, same for fibers from the trunk and house, and we have fingerprints and DNA too.

BUT something they found IMMEDIATELY cause LE to connect the remains with the Anthonys' house. Not just that they thought the body was Caylee's. An object. Something had to be there and it had to be glaringly obvious. The fiber evidence etc. will come later.

Yup. The immediately went to secure the house yesterday and to procure that search warrant. Immediately!

They found something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:05:30 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

The problem is Casey is stupid.  The duct tape will hold the fingerprints of the person responsible and IMO it will be Casey and not some mysterious nanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
still playing catch up had to log off early yesterday Caught NG and greta last night

Not sure if this has been brought up

IIRC someone was saying that LE was sawing down a  tree at the scene does anyone know why? or if thats true?

Am behind in reading, playing catch up.  Sorry if this has already been answered.  It IS confusing, all the info we've gotten so far, and some of it changing.  I did read that they were either sawing a part of a tree near where the remains were found, or branches of a tree.  And remember, there were 'scratches' of some sort on the trunk of Casey's car.  Could be that LE is thinking those scratches may have been made by the branches of a tree.  Maybe she backed the car into this place, and went a bit too close to that tree, scratching the car up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 12, 2008, 02:06:15 PM
they might even find dog hairs that lead back to the anthonys dogs. Everything gets stuck to duck tape and staticky plastic garbage bags.
Very slick idea!

I agree, it's a very good point.  Dog hair, human hair...lots of stuff in 4 vacuums...big possibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 02:06:25 PM
Consider the amateurish method of disposal regarding Caylee Marie's remains ... I no longer believe that George or Lee were involved.  I believe that Casey acted alone.

Janet

++++++++

TAMIKOSMOM'S UPDATED THEORY IN A NUTSHELL

JUNE 16TH

1.  Caylee Marie meets her demise.
2.  Caylee Marie is put in a plastic bag.
3.  Caylee Marie is placed inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle.

JUNE 18TH
1.  Casey backs her vehicle up the driveway of the Anthony home.
2.  Casey removes Caylee Marie from inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  Casey takes Caylee Marie to the backyard.
4.  Casey discovers the shed locked.
5.  Casey borrows a shovel from the neighbour.
6.  Casey buries Caylee Marie near the playhouse.

JUNE (?)
1.  Casey retrieves Caylee from the backyard.
2.  Casey places Caylee inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  The compromised plastic bag leaks and permenates the trunk with decomposition fluid.
4.  Casey drives a short distance to a wooded area.
5.  Casey removes Caylee from the inside of her trunk.
6.  Casey places Caylee on the ground a short distance inside the wooded area.
7.  Casey covers the plastic bag holding Caylee with brush.

++++++++++

NANCY GRACE
Small Child`s Remains Found Near Anthony Home
Aired December 11, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know what? The bag was not put there later, Nancy. I was actually out there at that scene today. It wasn`t buried. It didn`t float up. You can see where the bag was actually laying on the ground. The weeds are very thick there so it didn`t float. It would have got caught up in something.

Whoever put that bag there pulled up alongside the road, threw the bag out there in that little weeded area. So there was no digging, there was no nothing. You can actually see in the grassy area where someone had sat there for a long period of time. So it was set there. It wasn`t buried. Trust me.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:06:47 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:07:30 PM
Don't slam me for this, but as to Casey having to be sedated.... she has not been convicted yet, and by law they have to do whatever is necessary to keep her healthy until the trial... even if they don't believe she deserves it. If they had refused to give her the sedative, her defense attorney would be screaming to the media about "cruel and unusual punishment" and it would have caused a big uproar. It's a technicality... and I'm sure they had no choice.
I've heard of an inmate trying to commit suicide right before he is scheduled to be executed... they discover him, take him to the hospital... and then execute him a few days later. They cannot sanction an inmate doing harm to him/herself, BEFORE the state gets the chance to do it legally.

Oh!  Well... dang it, that does make sense! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 02:07:48 PM
Former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony thinks remains are those of Caylee Marie
1:50 p.m. Attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented Cindy and George Anthony, arrived at the Hopespring Drive address this afternoon to comment on the latest developments.

NeJame learned of the discovery of skeletal remains while in Puerto Rico on a one-day business trip. He was shocked when he heard the news.

"Sadly, it was what was expected," NeJame said. "I was hoping at some point that Caylee would be found."


Although the medical examiner has not determined the identity of the remains, NeJame believes they belong to the missing toddler.

"It's more than a hunch," he said. "I have had an opinion for a long time. I absolutely believe that it is [Caylee]."


NeJame resigned as the Anthonys' representative in November because they did not take his advice, he said.

"Everyone hoped that a miracle would occur and that Caylee would show up," NeJame said, adding that he felt more comfortable expressing his opinions about the girl's fate now that a body has been found.

Earlier today a man who identified himself only as a private investigator went inside the home. He entered through the garage door and appeared to be in the back yard near the shed. He did not appear to remove anything from the home.

When asked if he was working for the Anthony family, he declined comment.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:08:51 PM
Casey's reaction in jail could also be more staging ... playing the grieving mommy. It could be ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 02:09:01 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

I don't think so. I think she dumped her like a bag of garbage and if her mouth was taped, it was to prevent her from screaming. JMO And you can tell that I think VERY little of Casey - no soul is how I would describe her, or sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Edward on December 12, 2008, 02:09:02 PM
Consider the amateurish method of disposal regarding Caylee Marie's remains ... I no longer believe that George or Lee were involved.  I believe that Casey acted alone.

Janet

++++++++

TAMIKOSMOM'S UPDATED THEORY IN A NUTSHELL

JUNE 16TH

1.  Caylee Marie meets her demise.
2.  Caylee Marie is put in a plastic bag.
3.  Caylee Marie is placed inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle.

JUNE 18TH
1.  Casey backs her vehicle up the driveway of the Anthony home.
2.  Casey removes Caylee Marie from inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  Casey takes Caylee Marie to the backyard.
4.  Casey discovers the shed locked.
5.  Casey borrows a shovel from the neighbour.
6.  Casey buries Caylee Marie near the playhouse.

JUNE (?)
1.  Casey retrieves Caylee from the backyard.
2.  Casey places Caylee inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  The compromised plastic bag leaks and permenates the trunk with decomposition fluid.
4.  Casey drives a short distance to a wooded area.
5.  Casey removes Caylee from the inside of her trunk.
6.  Casey places Caylee on the ground a short distance inside the wooded area.
7.  Casey covers the plastic bag holding Caylee with brush.

++++++++++

NANCY GRACE
Small Child`s Remains Found Near Anthony Home
Aired December 11, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know what? The bag was not put there later, Nancy. I was actually out there at that scene today. It wasn`t buried. It didn`t float up. You can see where the bag was actually laying on the ground. The weeds are very thick there so it didn`t float. It would have got caught up in something.

Whoever put that bag there pulled up alongside the road, threw the bag out there in that little weeded area. So there was no digging, there was no nothing. You can actually see in the grassy area where someone had sat there for a long period of time. So it was set there. It wasn`t buried. Trust me.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html


I have to consider that George was a cop..
He knows how to set up another person to take the fall..
He very well could be the culprit.
jmho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: wreck on December 12, 2008, 02:09:08 PM
I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

The problem is Casey is stupid.  The duct tape will hold the fingerprints of the person responsible and IMO it will be Casey and not some mysterious nanny.
Yeah, throw out anything that makes sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: icjerk on December 12, 2008, 02:09:41 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 02:09:52 PM
Fox News just said they were taking addition photos in the back yard. They said it was like Paparatzi going on in the back yard.

I am thinking they found more than one thing that linked to that body. JMHO on that. There had to be more than just one thing since they have taken all this shit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
It just makes me sick to think that they are going to stand hard that Casey didn't do it...someone else did.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Are the A's still set to go spread their lies on LK tonight?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 02:10:13 PM
I am going through and re-watching the video's from Jail

This One with Lee part two

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

comparing Casey's expressions and her tone of voice is so Obvious she changes persona - between Lee and her parents.

Casey shows herself stronger and more matter of fact while talking to Lee and at the same time she is more in control with her emotions. ( And does not Run her Mouth as she Does with Her Parents) Lee has more control over her and it is shown in these tapes.
Yet the faces she makes are almost as if she is " Playing Him"

The  other video of her and her Parents " Quote You have always Been the Protective Mommy" Cindy to Casey

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html

Casey's Faces and Expressions are All Over the Place - the audio is mixed up off the exact Video. But if you watch KC talking about Caylee she keeps Raising her Eyebrows and making facial gestures that are almost clownish and or animated.

In the later end of the video - Casey and Cindy talk about Larry King Show.

Casey reminds Cindy that she can Defer Questions relative to the initial 911 Calls.

Who's on first in this Wack Job of a family?

http://www.mahalo.com/How_to_Tell_if_Someone_is_Lying
Incongruent Behavior

    * Incongruent behaviors are when there is a mismatch between actions, words, tone of voice or expression. They are often a sign of deception. They might occur in one of the following ways:

   1. Expressions do not match the person's statements.10
   2. Words do not match the body language. A person might nod their head while saying, "No."5
   3. Mismatch between a person's expression and their tone of voice.6
   4. Body gestures and facial expressions are out of sync. One often occurs after the other.3
   5. Misuse of a common gesture. Also called "leakage emblems," this type of misplaced gesture might include making the "okay" sign below the waist or shrugging one shoulder instead of two.2

Will the Prosecutors be able to Use the Video's of Jail visitations?

Or will they be omitted because Everyone has seen them and People will/ can create their own judgment from them  - preconceived thoughts and or perceptions**** for Jury selection and or members ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 02:10:14 PM
headline news just showed a picture of the bag and it looked like bedding or a pillow!!!

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.


http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:10:35 PM
Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

Clear as mud?  :)
Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........

Hi HigherHopes...I was just wondering if I did anything to offend you?  I am just a Grandma that has been following this case.  I don't post much but I read all of the posts and love this site.  I was just wondering why you answered my posts with "Uhh  no" each time and checking back you don't use this when replying to others?  If I asked a question that offended you, or if the question I asked was not asked in the correct manner or had already been asked...please accept my apologies.

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Thanks Dolce


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 02:11:09 PM
Former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony thinks remains are those of Caylee Marie
1:50 p.m. Attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented Cindy and George Anthony, arrived at the Hopespring Drive address this afternoon to comment on the latest developments.

NeJame learned of the discovery of skeletal remains while in Puerto Rico on a one-day business trip. He was shocked when he heard the news.

"Sadly, it was what was expected," NeJame said. "I was hoping at some point that Caylee would be found."


Although the medical examiner has not determined the identity of the remains, NeJame believes they belong to the missing toddler.

"It's more than a hunch," he said. "I have had an opinion for a long time. I absolutely believe that it is [Caylee]."


NeJame resigned as the Anthonys' representative in November because they did not take his advice, he said.

"Everyone hoped that a miracle would occur and that Caylee would show up," NeJame said, adding that he felt more comfortable expressing his opinions about the girl's fate now that a body has been found.

Earlier today a man who identified himself only as a private investigator went inside the home. He entered through the garage door and appeared to be in the back yard near the shed. He did not appear to remove anything from the home.

When asked if he was working for the Anthony family, he declined comment.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

I wonder who sent him to see if the cops took whatever it was the Anthony's feared them finding?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
Let's think this through ... yes they will likely connect dirt, mulch, and/or sand back to the Anthony's yard, same for fibers from the trunk and house, and we have fingerprints and DNA too.

BUT something they found IMMEDIATELY cause LE to connect the remains with the Anthonys' house. Not just that they thought the body was Caylee's. An object. Something had to be there and it had to be glaringly obvious. The fiber evidence etc. will come later.
A medical examiner found some evidence from the remains tied to the Anthony home. Perhaps if Casey struck Caylee over the head with something, they wanted to match the indentation to an item in the shed or garage, shovel, bat, etc. Or because they took out pesticide tanks, some indication on her remains to that. Who knows what that creature all did to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 02:12:42 PM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

They could have had an upright, with few attachments -  a canister, with many attachments - a handheld smaller dustbuster - and a shop vac, that can pick up liquids.  That would make 4, without being OCD... IMO.  Unless I'm in denial, which is fully possible.  ahaha!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


I laughed when I read OCD about the vacuum cleaners!  We have a new one, the old one (which still works) an Oreck hand held and a shop vac in the garage.  I never thought that was unusual!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 02:13:20 PM
OKAY, FOXNEWS IS ABOUT TO HAVE THE SAME INFO ON AGAIN!!!!! MAYBE THEY'LL TELL WHAT THEY FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyEek::

Pass me a RedBull...I know you've got one.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:13:27 PM
< snipped from http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story >

Quote
During a court hearing Thursday morning, New York attorney Linda Kenney Baden - who is the wife of a renowned medical examiner and a member of the defense team - said Baez was told the body had light-colored hair and the size of the bones appeared to be similar to the 2-year-old.

But when asked by Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland if a tentative identification had been made on the body, an Orange County Sheriff's Office attorney consulted with an investigator and replied that one had not.

The development came before Strickland denied Baez's request to have defense experts present during the autopsy of the body.

"At this point, it would do nothing but interfere with the medical examiner's obligation," the judge said.

Strickland said he would address the issue later of whether the defense can review the body, x-rays and other material after the autopsy and a positive identification was made. Authorities couldn't tell him how long that would take.

A county attorney - who was representing the Orange County Medical Examiner's Office - said an FBI lab will be looking at the DNA.

Baez also asked to view the crime scene after authorities are done and before it's open to the public. After the hearing, Baez, prosecutors and investigators began discussing the issue in courtroom. Orange County Sheriff's Sgt. John Allen was heard saying they may be done as early as tonight.

Moments later, they moved the conversation behind closed doors where reporters could not hear. Baez would not comment about when his team would have access to the crime scene.

For those who want to see raw video coverage of this morning's hearing, it is here: http://www.wftv.com/video/18265423/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:13:51 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me


Good afternoon klaas.... this sickens me also. I also have to wonder at the possibility that Casey chloroformed Caylee, put the duct tape over her mouth to keep her quiet and poor,sweet little Caylee possibly could have aspirated on her own vomit.
I have not had electricity and cable and have not been able to keep up much with the board, but have gotten alot of info from informed monkeys and the news.
I hope Casey is crapping in her jail issued pants today ALOT!
Has anyone heard of any response from George and Cindy to the new developments?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 02:14:52 PM
It's just a clearer look into Crazy's head because most children or family members killed by a relative tend to place a body with a favorite article and cover the face, taking great care with the body
Crazy duct taped her, placed her in a trash bag and dumped her..skank
It was a very depersonalized way to dispose of a loved one, especially her child.. makes me wonder how much of the horror Crazy may have blocked out..skank
Even Andrea Yates took her dead babies and placed them in the bed and covered them with sheets or blankets
I worked as a psych nurse for the second half of my career and these types of people are fascinating and usually follow certain patterns. Casey isn't insane but she is certainly swimming in pathology and directly tied to her mother with it. She is an amazing case study..skank

I think you're spot on with this, flamom.  Am thinking it does show Casey's complete disregard for Caylee, and possibly points to the level of 'rage and revenge' toward her parents that she may have been feeling.  I can see the prosecution having a field day with just the info on how Caylee's body was 'disposed' of. 


JB better be working a plea deal at this point. He better do it fast before more information comes out.
JMO I don't think a plead deal would be offered now because the body has been found. Before I think they were willing to offer one if she lead them to Caylee's body. I think JB might be regretting he didn't push her to take the deal earlier.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:15:36 PM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

They could have had an upright, with few attachments -  a canister, with many attachments - a handheld smaller dustbuster - and a shop vac, that can pick up liquids.  That would make 4, without being OCD... IMO.  Unless I'm in denial, which is fully possible.  ahaha!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


I laughed when I read OCD about the vacuum cleaners!  We have a new one, the old one (which still works) an Oreck hand held and a shop vac in the garage.  I never thought that was unusual!   ::MonkeyTongue::
I made a comment about that earlier. I have quite a collection of vacuums and brooms.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 02:16:06 PM
Let's think this through ... yes they will likely connect dirt, mulch, and/or sand back to the Anthony's yard, same for fibers from the trunk and house, and we have fingerprints and DNA too.

BUT something they found IMMEDIATELY cause LE to connect the remains with the Anthonys' house. Not just that they thought the body was Caylee's. An object. Something had to be there and it had to be glaringly obvious. The fiber evidence etc. will come later.

Yup. The immediately went to secure the house yesterday and to procure that search warrant. Immediately!

They found something.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html

A medical examiner found a connection between the skeletal remains of a child and the house of missing Florida girl Caylee Anthony, the local sheriff said Friday.


Sounds like they have found more than one thing.  Something found at the scene.  It had to be something that one of the investigators had previously seen similar at A's house or something an investigator had seen in photos.  It sounds like the medical examiner found something else.  Something they made them collect it at the house this morning, not in last night's search. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:16:26 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



It's nearly impossible to grab the end of the duct tape on a roll wearing any type of gloves.  Also, it's true that to tear the tape (without scissors), you often have to bite with your teeth to start it then you can tear the tape off.  That's why Dr. Baden feels there will be either fingerprints or DNA on that duct tape linking back to the killer (which will be Caylee, IMO).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: BTgirl on December 12, 2008, 02:16:35 PM
This is icky. Please don't read if you have a weak stomach:

• Non-decay of a dead body is more common than most people suppose. Many saints have had their claim to sainthood upheld by the nifty trick of not going off after burial.
This type of preservation happens when the adipose tissue in the body forms adipocere, a soapy-textured substance, composed mainly of saturated fatty acids and salts of fatty acids. The colloquial term for an adipocere-ridden corpse is a "soap mummy".

Women tend to be preserved more often than men, probably because they have more fat to start with, and conditions such as humidity and warmth also have an effect. The dead person in the question, having been buried in southern Italy, probably had a better chance of preservation than he would have had he been stuck in the cold mud of England; some very well preserved adipocere corpses have been discovered in Italy.

Adipocere can either form quickly, within weeks, or after several years. In the latter case a body may reach quite an advanced stage of decay before the development of adipocere sets in. It helps if a body is overweight, as an obese corpse contains enough water and fat to start adipocere formation quickly, regardless of the burial conditions. It can also be encouraged by covering the body in clothing or a shroud made of artificial fibres, by moist conditions, and by the presence of a substance such as formaldehyde. In rare cases, not only fat but also muscle turns to adipocere. If the body was in very good condition, this might have been the case.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18725173.400-grave-concern.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: misitx5 on December 12, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Does any monkey have pictures from when Great was there and they were gathered by the shed it was even open at some point??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
It's just a clearer look into Crazy's head because most children or family members killed by a relative tend to place a body with a favorite article and cover the face, taking great care with the body
Crazy duct taped her, placed her in a trash bag and dumped her..skank
It was a very depersonalized way to dispose of a loved one, especially her child.. makes me wonder how much of the horror Crazy may have blocked out..skank
Even Andrea Yates took her dead babies and placed them in the bed and covered them with sheets or blankets
I worked as a psych nurse for the second half of my career and these types of people are fascinating and usually follow certain patterns. Casey isn't insane but she is certainly swimming in pathology and directly tied to her mother with it. She is an amazing case study..skank

I think you're spot on with this, flamom.  Am thinking it does show Casey's complete disregard for Caylee, and possibly points to the level of 'rage and revenge' toward her parents that she may have been feeling.  I can see the prosecution having a field day with just the info on how Caylee's body was 'disposed' of. 


JB better be working a plea deal at this point. He better do it fast before more information comes out.
JMO I don't think a plead deal would be offered now because the body has been found. Before I think they were willing to offer one if she lead them to Caylee's body. I think JB might be regretting he didn't push her to take the deal earlier.
Meant "plea". She probably will be pleading for mercy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: always 1 on December 12, 2008, 02:17:11 PM
But, maybe Caylee was wrapped in say a Winnie the Pooh blanket and the matching pillow was still at the house, and that is what Casey ordered from Pennys and the mom knew she wouldnt order that when Caylee wasnt even there, so she didnt want to give the receipt to the LE!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:17:57 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me


Good afternoon klaas.... this sickens me also. I also have to wonder at the possibility that Casey chloroformed Caylee, put the duct tape over her mouth to keep her quiet and poor,sweet little Caylee possibly could have aspirated on her own vomit.
I have not had electricity and cable and have not been able to keep up much with the board, but have gotten alot of info from informed monkeys and the news.
I hope Casey is crapping in her jail issued pants today ALOT!
Has anyone heard of any response from George and Cindy to the new developments?

George and Cindy are supposed to respond on LKL tonight.  Kidfinders claims to have stopped searching for Caylee, in other words they are no longer begging for donations so they can make their next house payment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 02:17:58 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Great catch Dolce!!!

Would a photo of a fingerprint reveal everything that an actual fingerprint would.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:18:28 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
Please stay on topic.  No more discussion about other forums.

Sorry  (http://i38.tinypic.com/33mvfdg.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:19:28 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



It's nearly impossible to grab the end of the duct tape on a roll wearing any type of gloves.  Also, it's true that to tear the tape (without scissors), you often have to bite with your teeth to start it then you can tear the tape off.  That's why Dr. Baden feels there will be either fingerprints or DNA on that duct tape linking back to the killer (which will be Caylee, IMO).

Exactly klaas.... remember the duck tape experiements with the Natalee case? Everyone was commenting on how the stuff is so sticky and that surely there would be fingerprints on it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:19:52 PM
is there any news coverage ? I cant seem to find a live link anywhere.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:20:11 PM
But, maybe Caylee was wrapped in say a Winnie the Pooh blanket and the matching pillow was still at the house, and that is what Casey ordered from Pennys and the mom knew she wouldnt order that when Caylee wasnt even there, so she didnt want to give the receipt to the LE!!!!

I def. think the bedding, blanket, pillow case, sheet, or something along those lines was found.  Hopefully the roll of duct tape too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:20:23 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



It's nearly impossible to grab the end of the duct tape on a roll wearing any type of gloves.  Also, it's true that to tear the tape (without scissors), you often have to bite with your teeth to start it then you can tear the tape off.  That's why Dr. Baden feels there will be either fingerprints or DNA on that duct tape linking back to the killer (which will be Caylee, IMO).
Yes I heard him say all of that too last night.  I found it very interesting!!  I just watch too much CSI and thought gloves could be used.  Thanks for the clarification Klaas!  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:20:34 PM
Duct tape, around the skull, meant to keep caylee quiet. 
 

This sickens me


Good afternoon klaas.... this sickens me also. I also have to wonder at the possibility that Casey chloroformed Caylee, put the duct tape over her mouth to keep her quiet and poor,sweet little Caylee possibly could have aspirated on her own vomit.
I have not had electricity and cable and have not been able to keep up much with the board, but have gotten alot of info from informed monkeys and the news.
I hope Casey is crapping in her jail issued pants today ALOT!
Has anyone heard of any response from George and Cindy to the new developments?

George and Cindy are supposed to respond on LKL tonight.  Kidfinders claims to have stopped searching for Caylee, in other words they are no longer begging for donations so they can make their next house payment.


Thanks klaas... hopefully I will have cable tonight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:21:21 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Buckeye on December 12, 2008, 02:21:44 PM
This is icky. Please don't read if you have a weak stomach:

• Non-decay of a dead body is more common than most people suppose. Many saints have had their claim to sainthood upheld by the nifty trick of not going off after burial.
This type of preservation happens when the adipose tissue in the body forms adipocere, a soapy-textured substance, composed mainly of saturated fatty acids and salts of fatty acids. The colloquial term for an adipocere-ridden corpse is a "soap mummy".

Women tend to be preserved more often than men, probably because they have more fat to start with, and conditions such as humidity and warmth also have an effect. The dead person in the question, having been buried in southern Italy, probably had a better chance of preservation than he would have had he been stuck in the cold mud of England; some very well preserved adipocere corpses have been discovered in Italy.

Adipocere can either form quickly, within weeks, or after several years. In the latter case a body may reach quite an advanced stage of decay before the development of adipocere sets in. It helps if a body is overweight, as an obese corpse contains enough water and fat to start adipocere formation quickly, regardless of the burial conditions. It can also be encouraged by covering the body in clothing or a shroud made of artificial fibres, by moist conditions, and by the presence of a substance such as formaldehyde. In rare cases, not only fat but also muscle turns to adipocere. If the body was in very good condition, this might have been the case.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18725173.400-grave-concern.html



I believe exposure to insects prevents adipocere formation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 02:22:15 PM
The world outside the computer room beckons.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Later, Janet
11:20 AM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
Janet, you asked for a link to the court hearing video of today's procedings. I posted it twice for you. Have you seen it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:22:36 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Great catch Dolce!!!

Would a photo of a fingerprint reveal everything that an actual fingerprint would.

Thanks

Janet
I do not think its a photo, I think that wall hanging is an actual stamp of her hand. You can get the kits to make these sorts of things from craft stores.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:23:09 PM
SOME THOUGHTS:

  1.  Where do you guys think Casey was killed?  Tamikosmom has a good theory, but does it say where Caylee died?  I am not sure either.  Did she die in the car?  at Tony's apartment?  in the Anthony home?  That is a big part of the puzzle and the LE seem to be leaning toward Caylee dying in the house.  Casey and Caylee were not living there when she died, though.  Granted, they could have gone in the house while the parents were at work. 

  2.  Is it possible that Casey pulled a trash bag out of a container and the bag had some torn up bills, envelopes or other items identifying it to the house?

  3.  Doesn't the fact that the body was found naked indicate that Caylee probably was naked when she was killed?  It is hard to dress or undress a dead body, especially if it has been dead for a while.  Either the body is totally limp, which makes dressing or undressing difficult or rigor mortis is present.

  4.  Is the duct tape staging?  It is possible Casey tried to make it look like a sex crime, but why dispose of the body so close to the home, if that was her aim?  I don't think that she ever claimed the child was abducted from the home.  If fact, she never claimed a true abduction until the police pressed her or Cindy did, and then she maintained that Zanny and her sister knocked her down and took Caylee.  But would two sisters use the child for sex?  Not likely.  Staging a sex crime would seem to go against her story that the babysitter took Caylee.

  5.  If this is Caylee, doesn't this negate just about everything claimed by the Anthonys about sightings from Orlando to Puerto Rico to New York to Texas?  It is going to take some biiiiiiiiig lies to cover up all those stories.  Likewise, if the body has been dead for six months, which seems to be the case, and there is evidence it lay on the ground for a considerable amount of time, with growth all around it and a brown spot under the bag, won't the Anthonys have nowhere to go with their spin except the outer limits of La-La Land?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:23:21 PM
Just a thought. Has the utility worker been checked out? Why would he pick up a duct taped bad? Wouldn't he think it was garbage? Or maybe he thought it was bailed marijuana that someone lost? Is it protocol for utility workers to clean up the woods?

The cross thing is interesting. Hope it's a major clue. What ever they found is fantastic and LE is holding back their best cards. Yay for them!

Would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the chatter going on today in the Anthony clan.


The guy was scheduled to read meters in that area. He is an OC employee. The sheriff said he poked the bag with a stick when he saw it and the skull fell out. He did not touch it with his hands.
The poor guy had to relieve himself......you know human nature.....he is a hero in my eyes. He did exactly the right thing after seeing the skull.....he called 911.
Cool. Thanks. He probably will be messed up for awhile from this gruesome discovery.
"Hi 911, I just took a pee and found a skull" I can't imagine being in that position.
I'm still surprised that it was only 25 feet into the woods. Casey didn't even make any effort to dispose of Caylee very well. It was a dump and run then go party. What a shame.


It is a shame...

Am thinking this guy did what any of us would do when seeing a bag laying there like that when there's someone in the area missing.  Am not sure I'd want to touch the bag, and yet, would want to be sure what was inside, so that I wouldn't be calling 911 unnecessarily.  Not sure what went thru his mind, but that would be going thru mine. 

In another case I heard the 911 call of an older man who found the remains of a child while out walking with his wife.  The man was completely undone, crying, hardly able to get the words out, along with 'OMG I can't believe this, OMG who would do this, OMG get out here quick!' added into the mix.  Pretty much what most of us would likely be doing and saying.  It really can be very traumatic for the one who makes such a find. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:23:46 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Yesterday one of the monkeys posted that her/his internet was supposed to be disconnected? I apologize, I don't remember who...but I was wondering if it was something I could help out with if needed? I am not even sure if it was a billing thing...anyhow.. I know I would not want to be disconnected during all this, and with all the attachment we have to Caylee.
If someone knows, or if this is the person reading this let me know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:24:04 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Great catch Dolce!!!

Would a photo of a fingerprint reveal everything that an actual fingerprint would.

Thanks

Janet
I do not think its a photo, I think that wall hanging is an actual stamp of her hand. You can get the kits to make these sorts of things from craft stores.


I think so too Dolce.... my mil has one of all of her grandkids.....it is cute to see how big their hands are now as compared to then.Sadly, Caylee will not be around to giggle about how little her hands were...... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Buckeye on December 12, 2008, 02:24:30 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Maybe just....storage....temporarily


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:25:09 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.
Thank you for those. I sure wish there was a news team coverage like yesterday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
Fox just announced that the defense team acknowledges that the sheriff's dept says the remains are Caylees.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.
Thank you for those. I sure wish there was a news team coverage like yesterday.

You are welcome, and thank you for responding. I was starting to feel like no one could read my posts today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 02:27:59 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


This may have already been covered, but I'm trying to catch-up again.  On one of the news stations this afternoon, where they were showing the police loading things from the house into one of the SUV's , there was definately something that looked like a comforter that sort of poofed out of a long, paper bag, which was sitting upright.  It looked like it was white with small flowers.  Anyone else see this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:28:21 PM
FOX saying they are saying it is Caylee for sure?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:28:30 PM
Fox just announced that the defense team acknowledges that the sheriff's dept says the remains are Caylees.
What does that mean???  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:28:37 PM
Ok, what about this. During the episode with the gas cans being returned. George sees maggots in the trunk, Caylees body is still in there (tucked in the shadows under stuff) and he sprays pesticide on to kill them. Pesticide contains an adherant so it doesn't wash off and kills the pests. I wonder if there was residue on the bag in the woods?
If that's the case then George would have had the chance to recover Caylees body then. That's why he made up the story that Casey cursed at him and stormed off.

speculating.

oooooooooo!   ::MonkeyEek::  Good theory jjay! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
No rose, did they say how they know it is Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:29:25 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


This may have already been covered, but I'm trying to catch-up again.  On one of the news stations this afternoon, where they were showing the police loading things from the house into one of the SUV's , there was definately something that looked like a comforter that sort of poofed out of a long, paper bag, which was sitting upright.  It looked like it was white with small flowers.  Anyone else see this?


yes, I did see that  a little while ago....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:30:09 PM
The sheriff is saying that they are confident the remains are Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:30:22 PM
Fox just announced that the defense team acknowledges that the sheriff's dept says the remains are Caylees.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

They must be damn sure about it. Wow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:30:51 PM
No rose, did they say how they know it is Caylee?
No, confident the remains are hers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
I think if George or Lee had disposed of the body, it would have been taken farther away from the home.

You know, there is a lesson here for law enforcement.  Start at the home and go outward for at least two miles.  Several kids of late, found dead and one alive, were in close proximity to their homes.  I am thinking of Liz Smart, who was kept in the woods not too far from her home for weeks or months afterward.  Jessica Lunsford was found buried not far from her home, too. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:31:43 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false

watch live


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 02:31:54 PM
The Blue shop Vac - I almost purchased one just like it last year. They sell it at Lowes.

I thought about it and chose not to buy it because the replacement filters inside cost so much. It is both a Wet/Dry Vac.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productList&N=4294961544&Ne=4294967294&Ntk=i_products&Ntt=shop-vac


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:33:20 PM
links to the news that they are confident ???

and Brandi...that may be my fault...that you felt ignored. See yesterday when you had to leave, and asked us not to talk to much...well I suggested that we all hide...(was just trying to lighten up in all the seriousness) Apparently they all took me seriously !   ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 02:33:41 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2005-04/1114460899.Gb.r.html

here is a link to a site that breaks down all the steps and time frames of what exactly happens during decomposition very interesting read


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 02:34:10 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION
I am listening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:34:21 PM
Wow!  Doctor Biden sure is pressing for the bio-father info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:34:47 PM
links to the news that they are confident ???

and Brandi...that may be my fault...that you felt ignored. See yesterday when you had to leave, and asked us not to talk to much...well I suggested that we all hide...(was just trying to lighten up in all the seriousness) Apparently they all took me seriously !   ::MonkeyEek::



LOL

I actually read that ;-p


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 02:35:16 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:39:46 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html)

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:39:51 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL
where are you listening to this? the fox stream ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:40:44 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html)

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's
::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: The Doc on December 12, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL

She is only crying for herself....not for her baby....which makes me even more sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: BlueKYGirl on December 12, 2008, 02:41:08 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::


That's what bothers me the most about this whole story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
The biological father info is IMPERATIVE.  If they do not have it now, they should.  If Caylee's body had not been found and they had no idea who the biological father was, the defense could have said, "Hey, maybe her biological father or his family have Caylee."  They HAVE to do who he is and where his family is in order to eliminate them as suspects.

Kim Guilfoyle made a good point about others might be charged later with conspiracy or with lying to police.  As she said, loving your daughter is not an excuse to cover up or destroy evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:41:55 PM
links to the news that they are confident ???

and Brandi...that may be my fault...that you felt ignored. See yesterday when you had to leave, and asked us not to talk to much...well I suggested that we all hide...(was just trying to lighten up in all the seriousness) Apparently they all took me seriously !   ::MonkeyEek::



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

Attorney says body found is similar to Caylee Anthony's

http://www.local6.com/news/18262363/detail.html

Sheriff: Evidence Links Remains Of Child To Caylee Anthony Home



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL
where are you listening to this? the fox stream ?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false <-- fox stream


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:43:19 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL
where are you listening to this? the fox stream ?

yes, this I think

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false (http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


This may have already been covered, but I'm trying to catch-up again.  On one of the news stations this afternoon, where they were showing the police loading things from the house into one of the SUV's , there was definately something that looked like a comforter that sort of poofed out of a long, paper bag, which was sitting upright.  It looked like it was white with small flowers.  Anyone else see this?
I did. The flowers almost looked like small rosebuds to me...a small print. They zoomed in with the news camera It seemed puffy looking to me like a comforter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
Good morning to all monkeys and welcome newbies.

I have been thinking all night about Kio
It is bothering me that she told LE at the beginning where Casey would but Caylee and that is where she was at.
Have we seen this statement from Kio to the LE in a transcript
or is it a rumor
I'm just thinking out loud trying to figure it out in my head
Was Kio obsessed with Caylee

Monkey hugs

Stacey, it did seem to me that Kio could have been a bit obsessed with Caylee, yep.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 02:44:46 PM
The biological father info is IMPERATIVE.  If they do not have it now, they should.  If Caylee's body had not been found and they had no idea who the biological father was, the defense could have said, "Hey, maybe her biological father or his family have Caylee."  They HAVE to do who he is and where his family is in order to eliminate them as suspects.

Kim Guilfoyle made a good point about others might be charged later with conspiracy or with lying to police.  As she said, loving your daughter is not an excuse to cover up or destroy evidence.

George and Cindy better start spillin the beans of the circumstances of everything that went on or there lil' Devil spawn will bring them right into the fold unlesss they were involved in anyway in disrupting the investigation!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 02:44:47 PM
It is the same crib set I bought for my daughter.....it is winnie the pooh and the sheets have small litle pink flowers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 02:45:19 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
How can they know that Caylee knew what was being done to her?

Casey said to Lee, "I guess I am just a spiteful bitch."  As many of us have said, she probably killed Caylee to get even with Cindy or to be free of both Caylee and Cindy and now she and Cindy are lying their heads off together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 02:46:23 PM
Phil Keating from FNC said they removed 4 vacuum cleaners
WHO THE HELL HAS 4 OF THEM?? OCD I say

They could have had an upright, with few attachments -  a canister, with many attachments - a handheld smaller dustbuster - and a shop vac, that can pick up liquids.  That would make 4, without being OCD... IMO.  Unless I'm in denial, which is fully possible.  ahaha!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


I laughed when I read OCD about the vacuum cleaners!  We have a new one, the old one (which still works) an Oreck hand held and a shop vac in the garage.  I never thought that was unusual!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Sorry about my avi..I saw them bring out two carpe shampooers to..I seen a small green machine i use mine for my car ad funiture and then one upright shampooer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
ok, I do wish the attractive brunette anchor would stop finishing Dr. Baden's sentences. Honey, you are not the expret here. Just my pet peeve I guess.

And isn't it weird that both Badens are now involved in the case.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 02:47:46 PM
Casey is hysterical because Casey got caught. I figured when I heard this Casey reaction yesterday that it was Caylee's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Hudsunn on December 12, 2008, 02:48:06 PM
When is Cindy going to wake up and realize that Casey has dragged the whole family into the pit with her?  Or were they all already in the pit of lies, neck-grabbing, verbal disturbances, game-playing, jealousy and resentment and it all just went too far?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 02:48:13 PM
As far as the garbage bag. It's possible she was in a large industrial sized garbage bag (we usually have a box in the garage). It's possible they could still have the box in their garage, especially if it was large box like bought from Home Depot or somewhere. We only use those bags once in awhile, and have the box for many months. Anyway, that's just a guess of course. I know the regular size trash bags we use for our kitchen garbage are not that strong, but the industrial ones are very thick and strong. Also, I get annoyed with some of these news stations, they keep saying the remains were found at the nearby intersection, but they are way off! There is no woods where they keep showing. It's been almost 24 hrs, you'd think they would get the right location by now! ::MonkeyConfused::

Am thinking that the media who keeps referring to the nearest large intersection, is simply trying to give the public a general idea of where the remains were found. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:48:27 PM
It is the same crib set I bought for my daughter.....it is winnie the pooh and the sheets have small litle pink flowers

Interesting ...  ::MonkeyEek:: small pink flowers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 02:49:17 PM
When is Cindy going to wake up and realize that Casey has dragged the whole family into the pit with her?  Or were they all already in the pit of lies, neck-grabbing, verbal disturbances, game-playing, jealousy and resentment and it all just went too far?

Was George a police officer??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:49:34 PM
How can they know that Caylee knew what was being done to her?

Casey said to Lee, "I guess I am just a spiteful bitch."  As many of us have said, she probably killed Caylee to get even with Cindy or to be free of both Caylee and Cindy and now she and Cindy are lying their heads off together.
That is another way to get back at someone, have them knowingly cover for you in a criminal investigation, what a way to ruin their lives!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 02:49:34 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false

watch live

Thank you, Brandi!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mtnmom on December 12, 2008, 02:49:48 PM
How can they know that Caylee knew what was being done to her?

Casey said to Lee, "I guess I am just a spiteful bitch."  As many of us have said, she probably killed Caylee to get even with Cindy or to be free of both Caylee and Cindy and now she and Cindy are lying their heads off together.

I agree, When Casey could know longer spin the story herself, Cindy picked up the story and continued to spin it. Cindy I believe has some involvement in this. George looks desperately like he has something to say but is holding it in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mizjay on December 12, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
The biological father info is IMPERATIVE.  If they do not have it now, they should.  If Caylee's body had not been found and they had no idea who the biological father was, the defense could have said, "Hey, maybe her biological father or his family have Caylee."  They HAVE to do who he is and where his family is in order to eliminate them as suspects.

Kim Guilfoyle made a good point about others might be charged later with conspiracy or with lying to police.  As she said, loving your daughter is not an excuse to cover up or destroy evidence.
Yes, I agree that establishing paternity goes much further that satisfying our questions. The A's, and KC live in an isolated alternate universe that they feel they alone have control over what info anyone else can know or even their manipulated version.
We already know that throwing others under the bus (or rolling billboard !!) is their forte, so now that it's confirmed that Caylee has been murdered, the next step is to eliminate all potntial family that the A's could drag out of the woodpile to blame. Even spindy might be able to now recall who the daddy is.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1

You are correct!

hee hee hee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:51:26 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:51:47 PM
Casey is hysterical because Casey got caught. I figured when I heard this Casey reaction yesterday that it was Caylee's body.
She did not act this way when LP made his find. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 02:52:16 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 02:52:18 PM

<snipped>
Kim Guilfoyle made a good point about others might be charged later with conspiracy or with lying to police.  As she said, loving your daughter is not an excuse to cover up or destroy evidence.


Dutch law states otherwise.  Family members of a suspect are given a free pass to obstruct the investigation.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

++++++++

PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT

‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 02:52:26 PM
BREAKING - FOXNEWS
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's
Friday , December 12, 2008




 DEVELOPING STORY:

The defense team for the mother of missing Florida girl Caylee Anthony said the sheriff's office is confident that skeletal remains found are those of the child.

Linda Kenney Baden, part of 22-year-old Casey Anthony's defense team, said the Orange County Sheriff's Office called them to say they believe the bones discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home belong to Caylee because of the color of the hair and the appearance of the skull.

But police declined to confirm Baden's statements, saying only that the remains are consistent with those of a young child and there isn't enough information yet to positively identify the body as Caylee's.

"The remains are consistent with those of a 2- to 3-year-old child," Orange County Capt. Angelo Nieves told FOXNews.com. "We have not provided any confirmation that it is the Caylee child. ... We're not going to go and jump the gun, if you will, rush in order to make an identification without the medical examiner's office."

Click here for photos.

The state attorney's office also wouldn't say that the remains belong to Caylee. Calls to Casey Anthony's lead attorney Jose Baez weren't immediately returned.

Earlier Friday, the sheriff said that a medical examiner found a connection between the skeletal remains of a child and the house where Caylee and her family lived.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said the Anthonys' home was searched early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked (them) to the house."

Beary declined to elaborate on what clues were discovered. The property was also searched Thursday night.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

Asked if he believed the remains were Caylee's, Beary told NBC's "Today" show: "My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure."

There are also no other similar missing-child cases in the area.

Meanwhile, a judge denied defense attorneys' request Friday to have their own experts present during testing of the remains and the autopsy.

Circuit Judge Stan Strickland said he believed defense representatives would interfere with medical examiners if they were in the room during the identification of the body and the determination of a cause of death.

Lawyers also were in court in an effort to preserve the evidence collected Thursday.

Investigators were hurrying to identify the skeletal remains of the small child found Thursday. A team of medical examiners and detectives hoped the bones, discovered by a water meter reader, would help them solve the 6-month-old mystery of the child's whereabouts.

Caylee, who would have turned 3 in August, was last seen in June but wasn't reported missing for more than a month. Her mother is behind bars and charged with her murder.

Beary said his detectives and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

The worker stumbled upon the bones in a bag bound with duct tape less than a half-mile from where Caylee lived with her mother and grandparents in Orange County, Fla., near Orlando.

There were reports that a skull with duct tape around the mouth area rolled out of the bag when the utility worker picked it up. He had apparently gone into the woods to relieve himself.

Anthony was indicted in October on first-degree murder and other charges, even without a body. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter.

For the past several months, Anthony's family, police and volunteers from around the country have searched for the little girl. They had overlooked the wooded lot where the skull was found first because it was flooded after heavy rains and later because it was fenced off.

• Anthony Trial Would Be One to Watch, Attorneys Say

Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County jail, said Casey Anthony was told about the discovery. She was placed under psychological observation, not suicide watch, and remains under protective custody.

Nieves said officials also told Caylee's grandparents about the find.

• Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues

The child's grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and her daughter's car smelled like death.

Police interviewed Anthony and said everything she told them about her daughter's whereabouts was false. The baby sitter was nonexistent and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months.

Last week, prosecutors announced they would not pursue the death penalty for Anthony. Her trial has been postponed from January to March.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 02:52:40 PM
How can they know that Caylee knew what was being done to her?

Casey said to Lee, "I guess I am just a spiteful bitch."  As many of us have said, she probably killed Caylee to get even with Cindy or to be free of both Caylee and Cindy and now she and Cindy are lying their heads off together.

if her eyes were opened when she died they would remain that way also this may be a bit much for some but in watching documentaries of ancient history when they have dug up grave they can tell some of these ppl were torchered or even burried alive by the body, and mouth and eye positioning


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 02:52:54 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Russ on December 12, 2008, 02:53:11 PM
Casey is hysterical because Casey got caught. I figured when I heard this Casey reaction yesterday that it was Caylee's body.
She did not act this way when LP made his find. 


I Think she watched it to see what happens to evidence under water.  That BP episode probably strengthened her that no evidence would remain under those circumstances.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:54:58 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 02:55:39 PM
funkeymonkey - there's an article two or three pages back about the meter reader with a statement from the water company.  I think he was just a guy who had to empty his bladder and fortunately he found Caylee.

I wondered if maybe he was doing more than pee???? Most guys I know would not have to wander deep into the thicket to pee. Me thinks it was #2...HeeHee

Is Mallory Lee Ex-girlfriend?? I mean who could blame her? This family is wacko and, After the nasty accusations Casey has made about her father and brother to 2 separate individuals about supposed abuse. She told Jesse this AND Tony L. Two separate people from different circles. How many more did she tell this to for attention!? She is a pig and she is going away.

She is a pig, and she is going away, but I'm not sure she said it for "attention" per se. She was already getting plenty of that from Jesse Grund, and Tony L. isn't the kind of guy who'd be impressed with suffering or want to take care of Casey over something like that.

Lee wouldn't be the first guy to take advantage of a little sister in this way. It happens all the time. The family IS wacko and the warning signs are all there. But all the same, I don't think Mallory's Lee's ex. I don't think she'd be coming by and feeding the dogs for his parents, if it were over between her and Lee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 02:56:02 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


GOD BLESS YOU CIN!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:56:06 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Hugs to you Cyn. Sending monkey love.  :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 02:56:06 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.

:smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
When is Cindy going to wake up and realize that Casey has dragged the whole family into the pit with her?  Or were they all already in the pit of lies, neck-grabbing, verbal disturbances, game-playing, jealousy and resentment and it all just went too far?

Was George a police officer??

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
House Passes Emergency Auto Bailout; Latest Developments in the Blagojevich Scandal; Interview with the Anthonys
Aired December 10, 2008 - 21:00   ET


KING: Were you in law enforcement in Orlando?

GEORGE ANTHONY: No, never was in Orlando, now. I was in law enforcement 20-some odd years ago.  

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/10/lkl.01.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
SOME THOUGHTS:

  1.  Where do you guys think Casey was killed?  Tamikosmom has a good theory, but does it say where Caylee died?  I am not sure either.  Did she die in the car?  at Tony's apartment?  in the Anthony home?  That is a big part of the puzzle and the LE seem to be leaning toward Caylee dying in the house.  Casey and Caylee were not living there when she died, though.  Granted, they could have gone in the house while the parents were at work. 

 2.  Is it possible that Casey pulled a trash bag out of a container and the bag had some torn up bills, envelopes or other items identifying it to the house?
  3.  Doesn't the fact that the body was found naked indicate that Caylee probably was naked when she was killed?  It is hard to dress or undress a dead body, especially if it has been dead for a while.  Either the body is totally limp, which makes dressing or undressing difficult or rigor mortis is present.

  4.  Is the duct tape staging?  It is possible Casey tried to make it look like a sex crime, but why dispose of the body so close to the home, if that was her aim?  I don't think that she ever claimed the child was abducted from the home.  If fact, she never claimed a true abduction until the police pressed her or Cindy did, and then she maintained that Zanny and her sister knocked her down and took Caylee.  But would two sisters use the child for sex?  Not likely.  Staging a sex crime would seem to go against her story that the babysitter took Caylee.

  5.  If this is Caylee, doesn't this negate just about everything claimed by the Anthonys about sightings from Orlando to Puerto Rico to New York to Texas?  It is going to take some biiiiiiiiig lies to cover up all those stories.  Likewise, if the body has been dead for six months, which seems to be the case, and there is evidence it lay on the ground for a considerable amount of time, with growth all around it and a brown spot under the bag, won't the Anthonys have nowhere to go with their spin except the outer limits of La-La Land?



Not that all five make sense, but your #2 theory just jumped-out big time.  Boy, that would explain how they immediately tied the bag with Caylee's remains to the A's house.  WOW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Cyn, I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. I had no electricity or cable yesteday and last night and stayed with a friend who had her 13 yr old daughter abducted and killed almost 2 years ago, so did not get to watch alot of coverage, as I know it is so very hard for her to hear this.She, like you would give her life to have her daughter back safe and sound. My prayers are with you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 02:57:35 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Great catch Dolce!!!

Would a photo of a fingerprint reveal everything that an actual fingerprint would.

Thanks

Janet

On several ocassions at TES fundraisers we fingerprinted children for free... I wonder if the A's ever did this for Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:57:35 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Oh god I am so sorry. I am thinking of you and your child right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 02:58:34 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


 i wish he wouldn't comment now that his wife represents the defendant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mtnmom on December 12, 2008, 02:59:13 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Im so sorry.  (((CynIn Oregon)))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jrzgrl on December 12, 2008, 02:59:14 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


GOD BLESS YOU CIN!

sorry for your loss

even as  crazy as our kids may drive us I could never imagine harming then especially such a tiny little girl The only comfort I find in this situation is although her life was taken way too soon she has been spared a life with this crazy family


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 02:59:18 PM
Casey is hysterical because Casey got caught. I figured when I heard this Casey reaction yesterday that it was Caylee's body.
She did not act this way when LP made his find. 

No , she did not, cause she knew it wasn't Caylee, cause she knew where she dumped her precious child like garbage! Yesterday, she KNEW!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 02:59:30 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


 i wish he wouldn't comment now that his wife represents the defendant.


I find it odd. And he seems to be commenting beyond forensics. He seems to have a stong opinion of her guilt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 03:00:34 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


(hugs) for you Cyn.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:00:40 PM
OMG ARE YOU HEARING THIS!!!! I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE HEARING THIS!!!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa:: FOXNEWS DISCUSSION


THEY'RE DISCUSSING CAYLEE KNOWING HER MOTHER WAS DOING THIS TO HER!!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::

AND CASEY'S BITCH ASS CRYING AND HYSTERICAL IN JAIL
where are you listening to this? the fox stream ?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/live.html?openAIR=false <-- fox stream


More sickening is when they discussed the possibility of KC trying  to break Caylee's neck over & over until the job was done.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)

That does look like what I saw on the news poking out of that bag!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


GOD BLESS YOU CIN!

So sorry, Cyn!
 :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:01:45 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)
Not is not that one....is one that have litlle pink flower.....they are very little ....those flowers and on the ruffles and also on the coverter where the onli one is on there is winnie the pooh...i saw it when they interviewed cindy, i remebered to tell my husband it is the same than my daughters crib set.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:02:59 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)
Not is not that one....is one that have litlle pink flower.....they are very little ....those flowers and on the ruffles and also on the coverter where the onli one is on there is winnie the pooh...i saw it when they interviewed cindy, i remebered to tell my husband it is the same than my daughters crib set.
That one is the new version.....cayless is version 2002 -2005


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Mary Ann on December 12, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:03:55 PM
Not is not that one....is one that have litlle pink flower.....they are very little ....those flowers and on the ruffles and also on the coverter where the onli one is on there is winnie the pooh...i saw it when they interviewed cindy, i remebered to tell my husband it is the same than my daughters crib set.

Yes, Dolce posted the pics of Caylee's room earlier today. I was just saying JCP may have had that particular style in the store and not on the Web and perhaps that is what Casey bought at JCP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:03:59 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:04:12 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1



So, does that mean that maybe the ground was dry when KC dumped Caylee's body, and then the rains hit later on?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 03:05:23 PM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...

I always had an idea that George and Cindy played a bigger role in this.

Lisa
Oh me too!!! It's obvious because they are protesting so loudly.
Even the old switcheroo under the overpass was suspicious and Cindy made light of it.
At least George was honest to the cops about the decomposition smell. He tried. And he's just been sitting behing Cindy rubbing her shoulders lately.

I'm still curious who the baby daddy is.

So am I.  If he is still living, he would be considered the person to claim Caylee's remains.  I still think it is a shame she went through her short life not knowing her father.

Lisa

Unless of course it was Lee, in which case she knew him very well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: califmom on December 12, 2008, 03:06:02 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.



God Bless you CynInOregon...My heart & prayers goes out to you and your family!!  ((((((((Big hugs for you)))))))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:06:56 PM
It is this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120346447508&ih=002&category=162040&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1


(http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/22/d8/7c3b_1.JPG)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 03:07:35 PM
A very smart monkey just emailed me this:

I sure hope they also took the POOL FILTER ASSEMBLY

I sure hope they did too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:07:39 PM
(http://www.babysupermall.com/main/products/kli/kli2908bed4-big.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:08:32 PM
Not is not that one....is one that have litlle pink flower.....they are very little ....those flowers and on the ruffles and also on the coverter where the onli one is on there is winnie the pooh...i saw it when they interviewed cindy, i remebered to tell my husband it is the same than my daughters crib set.

Yes, Dolce posted the pics of Caylee's room earlier today. I was just saying JCP may have had that particular style in the store and not on the Web and perhaps that is what Casey bought at JCP.
I bought it 6 years ago in cleveland Ohio - babys r us


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:08:39 PM
It is this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120346447508&ih=002&category=162040&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

Well, then I guess this is not still availalbe at JCP. Hmm. well, just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:08:40 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:08:58 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

The picture I saw a bit ago (a couple of pages back,maybe) was one with smaller pink flowers and the part of the sheet/blanket. that is showing is on Caylee's left side. I'll see if I can find it.
That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)
Not is not that one....is one that have litlle pink flower.....they are very little ....those flowers and on the ruffles and also on the coverter where the onli one is on there is winnie the pooh...i saw it when they interviewed cindy, i remebered to tell my husband it is the same than my daughters crib set.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 03:09:09 PM
BREAKING - FOXNEWS
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's
Friday , December 12, 2008

 DEVELOPING STORY:

The defense team for the mother of missing Florida girl Caylee Anthony said the sheriff's office is confident that skeletal remains found are those of the child.

Linda Kenney Baden, part of 22-year-old Casey Anthony's defense team, said the Orange County Sheriff's Office called them to say they believe the bones discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony home belong to Caylee because of the color of the hair and the appearance of the skull.

But police declined to confirm Baden's statements, saying only that the remains are consistent with those of a young child and there isn't enough information yet to positively identify the body as Caylee's.

"The remains are consistent with those of a 2- to 3-year-old child," Orange County Capt. Angelo Nieves told FOXNews.com. "We have not provided any confirmation that it is the Caylee child. ... We're not going to go and jump the gun, if you will, rush in order to make an identification without the medical examiner's office."
Click here for photos.

The state attorney's office also wouldn't say that the remains belong to Caylee. Calls to Casey Anthony's lead attorney Jose Baez weren't immediately returned.

Earlier Friday, the sheriff said that a medical examiner found a connection between the skeletal remains of a child and the house where Caylee and her family lived.

Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said the Anthonys' home was searched early Friday after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" that "linked (them) to the house."

Beary declined to elaborate on what clues were discovered. The property was also searched Thursday night.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," he said.

Asked if he believed the remains were Caylee's, Beary told NBC's "Today" show: "My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure."

There are also no other similar missing-child cases in the area.

Meanwhile, a judge denied defense attorneys' request Friday to have their own experts present during testing of the remains and the autopsy.

Circuit Judge Stan Strickland said he believed defense representatives would interfere with medical examiners if they were in the room during the identification of the body and the determination of a cause of death.

Lawyers also were in court in an effort to preserve the evidence collected Thursday.

Investigators were hurrying to identify the skeletal remains of the small child found Thursday. A team of medical examiners and detectives hoped the bones, discovered by a water meter reader, would help them solve the 6-month-old mystery of the child's whereabouts.

Caylee, who would have turned 3 in August, was last seen in June but wasn't reported missing for more than a month. Her mother is behind bars and charged with her murder.

Beary said his detectives and the FBI would work around the clock and through the weekend to identify the child.

The worker stumbled upon the bones in a bag bound with duct tape less than a half-mile from where Caylee lived with her mother and grandparents in Orange County, Fla., near Orlando.

There were reports that a skull with duct tape around the mouth area rolled out of the bag when the utility worker picked it up. He had apparently gone into the woods to relieve himself.

Anthony was indicted in October on first-degree murder and other charges, even without a body. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter.

For the past several months, Anthony's family, police and volunteers from around the country have searched for the little girl. They had overlooked the wooded lot where the skull was found first because it was flooded after heavy rains and later because it was fenced off.

• Anthony Trial Would Be One to Watch, Attorneys Say

Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County jail, said Casey Anthony was told about the discovery. She was placed under psychological observation, not suicide watch, and remains under protective custody.

Nieves said officials also told Caylee's grandparents about the find.

• Plastic Bag, Duct Tape Could Yield Vital Clues

The child's grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen Caylee for a month and her daughter's car smelled like death.

Police interviewed Anthony and said everything she told them about her daughter's whereabouts was false. The baby sitter was nonexistent and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months.

Last week, prosecutors announced they would not pursue the death penalty for Anthony. Her trial has been postponed from January to March.



Thanks Klaas.

I somehow believe that Casey Anthony has confessed.  The defense appears to be resigned that the remains discovered yesterday are those of Caylee Marie.  Orange County Capt. Angelo Nieves will not go there.  He claims there is no confirmation.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 03:10:06 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?

Maybe it was the throw pillows I saw, i was walking through and only caught a quick glimpse of it, but it did appear to be white or off white, with small flowers or rosebuds on it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:10:18 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1



So, does that mean that maybe the ground was dry when KC dumped Caylee's body, and then the rains hit later on?

Personally, I don't think she was put on dry land. I heard yesterday that the area she was found is swampy. And that it had just dried up a bit recently, in the past couple of weeks.

But we don't know what the ground conditions were there in June yet.

So it's anyone's guess until we find out.

(A black plastic bag will turn green grass brown almost overnight, so the fact that the grass/weeds under the bag were brown/dead, does not necessarily mean that it had been there for a long time.)

I believe it is possible that she was put into water and over time, the bag was washed up to where it was found.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: califmom on December 12, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:11:09 PM
It is this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120346447508&ih=002&category=162040&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

Well, then I guess this is not still availalbe at JCP. Hmm. well, just a thought.

I wonder if it was then, though.  Or JCPenney employees might have told her where she could find it. If that was the case, I wonder what she did purchase at JCP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:11:44 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?
Sorry about the typos i can't get used to this new keyboard on my laptop


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 03:12:16 PM
It is this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120346447508&ih=002&category=162040&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1


(http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/22/d8/7c3b_1.JPG)

those little flowers look very close to what I saw in the evidence bag on the news


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:12:50 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mstam656 on December 12, 2008, 03:13:56 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

not to mention all the resouces and money LE used, Tim Miller used and everybody else used to find a sweet little girl that was killed by her mother


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 03:14:05 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1



So, does that mean that maybe the ground was dry when KC dumped Caylee's body, and then the rains hit later on?

Personally, I don't think she was put on dry land. I heard yesterday that the area she was found is swampy. And that it had just dried up a bit recently, in the past couple of weeks.

But we don't know what the ground conditions were there in June yet.

So it's anyone's guess until we find out.

(A black plastic bag will turn green grass brown almost overnight, so the fact that the grass/weeds under the bag were brown/dead, does not necessarily mean that it had been there for a long time.)

I believe it is possible that she was put into water and over time, the bag was washed up to where it was found.



IDK Brandi, but at this point, I have to know!!!!!! Going to the national weather service website and seeing if I can find anything else.  BRB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 03:14:56 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


This may have already been covered, but I'm trying to catch-up again.  On one of the news stations this afternoon, where they were showing the police loading things from the house into one of the SUV's , there was definately something that looked like a comforter that sort of poofed out of a long, paper bag, which was sitting upright.  It looked like it was white with small flowers.  Anyone else see this?
I did. The flowers almost looked like small rosebuds to me...a small print. They zoomed in with the news camera It seemed puffy looking to me like a comforter.

The comforter on Caylee's bed was white.  It looks like maybe they are small flowers but actually Winnie the Pooh characters and bees with flowers.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 03:15:07 PM
Here is the June 2008 weather chart for Orlando showing rainfall.
Example:
June 16  1.15
June 18    .78
June 25  1.74
June 30  1.29 + alot under 1" during the month with less than 3" before June 16
Total rain for June 9.73


One of the neighbors said that area is flooded most of the summer and it just went down a week or two ago.
http://www.ouc.com/business/Orlando%20Weather%20Comparison%20June%202008.pdf (http://www.ouc.com/business/Orlando%20Weather%20Comparison%20June%202008.pdf)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:16:28 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?

Thanks for that info. I did not see what all they removed. I have to wonder why they would not have gotten the carpet shampooers, especially the small car one, before this. I would have thought they would have wanted that stuff when they impounded the car as evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:17:11 PM

I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Cyn - step away when you need to...you know we will be here waiting for you when you are able to come back.....take care. Remember yesterday, you told me Heather was caring for Caylee in heaven and I believe you!! :smt056



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:17:54 PM
It must be a picture of caylee when was a baby on her crib with the original sheets of winnie the pooh......the color is cream is not white...cream or  yellowish with litlle roses........maybe she got the new version of that crib set.....whatever is covering caylees body should be in caylees pictures


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 03:18:09 PM

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

POST OF THE DAY!!!

Thanks Sunny.

Cindy and George have lost their beloved Caylee Marie but ... the charade of the past five months ... the outright scamming of the taxpayers and donors ... imply that compassion for these grandparents is soooo difficult.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cecilita on December 12, 2008, 03:18:30 PM

I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.

I am sorry CYN :(

Cyn - step away when you need to...you know we will be here waiting for you when you are able to come back.....take care. Remember yesterday, you told me Heather was caring for Caylee in heaven and I believe you!! :smt056




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 03:18:38 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?
If that means the dead body was in the house that changes alot of things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:18:47 PM
Casey is hysterical because Casey got caught. I figured when I heard this Casey reaction yesterday that it was Caylee's body.
She did not act this way when LP made his find. 


I Think she watched it to see what happens to evidence under water.  That BP episode probably strengthened her that no evidence would remain under those circumstances.


Guess she didn't check with Scott Petersen, first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 12, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO

Cool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!

I just heard on the news that the As are supposed to comment on yesterday's findings and the search of their home on LK's show tonight. Absolutely mind boggling. Also, LK is such a creep for giving them air time. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ugghhh I keep trying to catch up!! I just heard this too. I can't believe it! How can they make an appearance on LK like they are some sort of celebrities? Especially when they now know it is most likely Caylee that has been found in the woods around the corner from their own house. How can they continue on making tv appearances like they were doing when the "believed" she was alive? I hope they think this through. If they appear tonight it is not going to be because they grieve for their granddaughter, it will be to either say it can't be Caylee or they will go on to say that KC is innocent. I believe if they are truly grieving they would not be able to go on air live knowing Caylee is deceased. How could they?? How could they have themselves together enough to make a tv appearance. Maybe in a few weeks, but not today, it just doesn't seem possible. Maybe they're just so far gone in their minds? I don't know because it makes no sense to me.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tevye on December 12, 2008, 03:20:27 PM


George and Cindy are supposed to respond on LKL tonight.  Kidfinders claims to have stopped searching for Caylee, in other words they are no longer begging for donations so they can make their next house payment.

In other words, KidFinders has made the house payment for December, and they are finished with their Christmas shopping. Wonder how they'll drum up money in Jan.?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:20:38 PM
(http://a85.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_8d7ba62d7ace839a6b5b7a2514dda70c.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 12, 2008, 03:20:53 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html)

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's

I told you guys the defense would have to admit it was Caylee...they can't go any further after what the judge did until they do. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 03:21:10 PM

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

POST OF THE DAY!!!

Thanks Sunny.

Cindy and George have lost their beloved Caylee Marie but ... the charade of the past five months ... the outright scamming of the taxpayers and donors ... imply that compassion for these grandparents is soooo difficult.

Janet



No compassion here.NONE.Sorry!Better go hire a defense attorney.When this timeline is put together,as well as the behavior of the grandparents it's going to to be heartbreaking!May God wrap is arms around Caylee...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:21:17 PM
http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1 (http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?ItemID=14374eb&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=car+seat&RefPage=SearchDepartment.aspx&s4PageSize=15&CmCatId=searchresults&Search1Prod=True&S4Filter=N%7c0%7cNtt%7ccar+seat%7cNtk%7csearch_all%7cNao%7c15%7cNty%7c1%7csid%7c11E2B5C4DF65%7cNtx%7cmode%2bmatchallpartial%7cNtpr%7c1%7cNtpc%7c1)

Seems this family really likes JCP ... the Eddie Bauer car seat can also be found at JCP. Just throwing things out, not saying it necessarily means anything.  ::MonkeyCool::

That's what she bought!!!  A new bed/crib sheet! In that pic of Caylee with Winnie the Pooh in the background, you can see toward the bottom of the pic something white or light pink with small pink flowers!  She replaced the bedding she wrapped her in!!

I would not be surprised, Flossy. And like I said maybe she had to call to see if they still carried that style as this is a different style.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/jcppoohset.jpg)

That does look like what I saw on the news poking out of that bag!

Yes, that sheet looks like what I saw, too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:21:56 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/40/l_57c6635dbdef4eb88052df7d698ba409.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:23:25 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

I'm betting that Casey is going down without ever confessing. They'll take the stance that Phantom Zanny had Caylee and Phantom Zanny killed Caylee. Therefore the forensics within the bag or on the body that link Casey to the remains are all important. The timing of that phone conversation Casey says she had with Caylee is all important as well when the date of death is fixed according to decomposition.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:24:06 PM
(http://a876.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_28361db94fc9282a80867c969dc35bfb.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.



Oh my gosh, Cyn.  I'm so sorry.  Now I am sick to my stomach.  God bless you and your family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:24:29 PM
Yes, foxnews!! they just said that LE has found something that ties it to the scene! There is a million things that could be, they took a crapload of stuff out of that house! I wanna know what it is!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Was Caylee's bedding Winnie the Pooh? I see Winnie in the background of the pic with Caylee in the towel.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

goodandmad - that is what I am thinking.   something like a towel or pillow case or sheet


This may have already been covered, but I'm trying to catch-up again.  On one of the news stations this afternoon, where they were showing the police loading things from the house into one of the SUV's , there was definately something that looked like a comforter that sort of poofed out of a long, paper bag, which was sitting upright.  It looked like it was white with small flowers.  Anyone else see this?
I did. The flowers almost looked like small rosebuds to me...a small print. They zoomed in with the news camera It seemed puffy looking to me like a comforter.

The comforter on Caylee's bed was white.  It looks like maybe they are small flowers but actually Winnie the Pooh characters and bees with flowers.

Lisa

True, in the pictures of Cindy in the room after the deed was done and Casey possibly replaced it.  Who knows, though.
Maybe that's why the bedding changed from pink to blue.  Cindy sure wasn't going to tell anyone if that was the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1



So, does that mean that maybe the ground was dry when KC dumped Caylee's body, and then the rains hit later on?

No, Orlando got hit with a hurricane in June, I believe.  I know the season started early down here.  I can't remember the hurricane's name and I couldn't find by googling.

It is not just hurricanes that fill up the swamps and retention areas - we get torrential rains and thunderstorms on a daily basis during the rainy season which is June through September.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:24:36 PM
Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO

Cool.
I ook him to mean that to mybe a civil suit..I just want to know about the small shampooer did cindy try to get hat trunk clean. Those small machines are nice but they don't get everything an that may explain some other chemicles found in the trunk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:24:43 PM
I have a theory about how the duct tape and chlorofrom tie together and I think I could be dead on with this theory.

I am thinking that Casey chloroformed Caylee while she was in the trunk of her car and then put the ductape around her mouth to prevent people from hearing Caylee from screaming/crying when she came out of the drugged chloroformed state. Caylee probably overdosed and suffocated from both things and when Casey came back to the trunk to check on Caylee she found her dead.

Interesting theory...I have read posts where others have mentioned red-like rash around Caylee's mouth that they attributed to sippy cup.  If duct tape on mouth in above circumstances happened more than once, could also cause redness.

Awww, I just wanted to say I agree, you are a very handsome squirrel! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
CNN.com is reporting this just now...

I always had an idea that George and Cindy played a bigger role in this.

Lisa
Oh me too!!! It's obvious because they are protesting so loudly.
Even the old switcheroo under the overpass was suspicious and Cindy made light of it.
At least George was honest to the cops about the decomposition smell. He tried. And he's just been sitting behing Cindy rubbing her shoulders lately.

I'm still curious who the baby daddy is.

So am I.  If he is still living, he would be considered the person to claim Caylee's remains.  I still think it is a shame she went through her short life not knowing her father.

Lisa

Unless of course it was Lee, in which case she knew him very well.

Yup, Fuzzball, I agree.  What did Mark NeJame say yesterday about how there would be MORE disturbing information that has not been released yet?

Lee being the father is the only thing I can imagine that comes even close to being as disturbing as finding Caylee's remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465872,00.html)

Defense Team for Caylee Anthony's Mother Says Skeletal Remains Found Are Missing Girl's

I told you guys the defense would have to admit it was Caylee...they can't go any further after what the judge did until they do. 

Yes, you did, Lala's. Has there been any reaction from Cindy, George, or Lee? Last I saw was "Oh, Okay" and "not confirmed".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:25:37 PM


George and Cindy are supposed to respond on LKL tonight.  Kidfinders claims to have stopped searching for Caylee, in other words they are no longer begging for donations so they can make their next house payment.

In other words, KidFinders has made the house payment for December, and they are finished with their Christmas shopping. Wonder how they'll drum up money in Jan.?

They'll scout out other families in need, so they can "help" them (as well as their own pockets).  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: califmom on December 12, 2008, 03:26:09 PM
They seem to be VERY interested in the shed...

Well, what's in a shed? Lawn tools -- shovels, rakes, hedge clippers. Gas cans. Lawn mower. Lawn and pool chemicals. Hmm. I am just as confused as ever.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I heard that LE was taking pictures of the shed yesterday.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html <-- live cam of the house

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html <-- live cam of the area where Caylee was found.

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO


I guess I am the invisible one today... I have posted this twice and I'm thinking I am the only one who thought his statement was interesting.  I know the board is moving fast, so not every post is answered and I know I am not a regular "poster" but I have posted this a few times  :(   
ON the brighter side of things... Today is my son's 3rd birthday!!  As soon as he gets up from his nap, I am going to smother him with big fat smooches & hugs!!  Poor Caylee didn't get to celebrate her third birthday... makes me so sad!!
Have a great day everyone!!
God Bless Caylee!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:26:26 PM
Hurricane Faye came through sometime during all this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:26:55 PM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/l_509adc26281c4e90a7f4847fb408ed0c.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mizjay on December 12, 2008, 03:27:05 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

The addition of bona fide lawyers accustomed to high profile cases may have been a turning point for this defense. Baez has treated this case like a Mayberry episode. He's acted like why worry about this or that, my client will be able to mezmorize the entire country, he's not acted with any urgency on any issue. Now he's in the company of professionals who may be advising hom to smarten up.
 As for Casey....................my thoughts would burn up this computer if typed

Shout out to Klass and CBB again for fixing my avi.. Thank you ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 03:28:09 PM
I am trying to get info out of this girl on another message board I go to that is unrelated to the Anthony case. She apperently knows Lee Anthony and has met Caylee before. She wont' tell me anything b/c apperenlty she was told to keep her mouth shut(probably by police) about everything.  I  really am curious as to what she knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:28:19 PM
(http://a85.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_8d7ba62d7ace839a6b5b7a2514dda70c.jpg)
I love that photo. She looks so sweet, but a sparkle in her eyes shows a little sassiness going on. She should be sitting on Santa's knee telling him what she wants for Xmas, right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:28:36 PM
I seen that in one bag of things reoved from the house ws throw pillows..Maye from cales bed they were white with small flos or something on them..I also seen two carp shampooers a small green machine type used for cleaning cars or furure small areas nd then an upright shampooer..Did anyone else notice that?
If that means the dead body was in the house that changes alot of things.
Beary said the house was a crime scene


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:28:53 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
Don't mind me and my posts regarding the sheets.  I think I misunderstood something another poster said.  I thought there were pink flowers seen with the stuff LE had.  I've got it backwards, I think!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littletxlady on December 12, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Sorry if this has been posted already . I'm in and out and running around for Christmas.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/criminal-prof-2.html#more

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Discusses the Casey Anthony Case

Investigation Discovery contacted top criminal profiler Pat Brown today and asked her to share her thoughts on how yesterday's discovery of child skeletal remains will affect Casey Anthony's cooperation in the case, if those remains are identified as that of Anthony's missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee.

"Casey Anthony, since she exhibits psychopathological behaviors and has a history of pathological lying, can be expected to change her story as is necessary to be of fullest benefit to her own survival," Brown said. "The original story of the babysitter/kidnapper served as a distraction to the more likely scenario that Casey had done something to Caylee and that Caylee was no longer alive. If she could get people to believe that Caylee was a missing child case, then the searches for Caylee would allow time for the body to decompose, the evidence to vanish, and the witnesses' memories to dwindle and become less credible. Then when the believability factor of that story began to slide, especially when evidence from the trunk indicated Caylee was dead, Casey still could hope the body wouldn’t be found, so she stuck to the story."

According to Brown, Casey will most likely meet with her attorney to determine which story she should move forward with, so as to get the least amount of time behind bars.

"If no evidence points to the house, then likely Casey will still claim someone else did it, but when the police were closing in, killed Caylee and tried to frame her (by placing the body close to her house)," Brown said. "If on the other hand, there is evidence that clearly implicates the Anthony home, then Casey will likely change the story to one of accidental death followed by an anguished and terrified mother trying to deal with a horrific situation. Of course, Casey’s behaviors of partying and such will not make her very lovable in the eyes of a jury. The lawyers may then go for the old line, ‘Yes, Casey is a disturbed woman, maybe even narcissistic, but she is not a coldblooded killer; she is merely a young, foolish girl who made a poor choice by --------fill in the blank -----leaving Caylee alone in the pool where she accidentally drowned, etc. etc."

Brown said that the strongest evidence against Anthony is the Internet searches for chloroform, neckbreaking and missing children. Those, Brown said, will show "clear premeditation."

"As to what might have been found with the child’s remains at the dump site in the woods, the most likely possibility would be the duct tape. I doubt the trash bag will be of much use because too much time has passed. If the body had been found quickly, then the bag might have been proven to belong to the same roll found in the house as the striations in the plastic are unique to each set of bags. However, so much time has passed I doubt the same set of bags would still be in the home; maybe the same brand, but not the exact same roll. The duct tape, however, could be more useful if some was torn off and the roll tossed back onto a shelf. If it hasn’t been used since, the actual location where it was torn off may match exactly to one of the ends found with the body."

In regards to other possible evidence, Brown had this to say:

"It is also always possible that some other item that actually belongs to Casey or the Anthony's was found at the site or in the bag. Casey doesn’t appear to be the brightest criminal (for if she killed Caylee and dumped her body she shouldn’t have chosen a location so close to home and at a spot where she has been known to frequent in the past). She could have accidentally left a piece of evidence at the dump site which unquestionably came from the home. She might have been in a rush and been careless or she might simply have been so arrogant she thought no one would ever find the dump site."

And where does the case go from here?

"I think Casey Anthony will finally get what’s coming to her, but she might not get as much as everyone wishes," Brown said. "We will have to see how all that pans out in court."





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:29:53 PM

Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO


I sure hope you are right...these people are the lowest form of creature that crawls this earth.....making money using Caylee while she is rotting  20 houses down...OHMYGAWD!  I'd spit in their faces if I ever saw them!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:30:07 PM
I am also curious about this item I see poking out, looks like a wooden stick of some sort. Ideas???

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/evdremov.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 03:30:29 PM
ok, goin' out on a limb here..BUT, could the clues that were found that linked them to the house, have been old mail or something? I DO NOT PUT IT PAST CASEY to have thrown Caylee in a bag with other trash.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:30:52 PM
You're welcome, Mizjay. I'd need to dance with your monkeys the entire time they go at it here to burn all the calories I need to! 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: kirbysquirrel on December 12, 2008, 03:31:17 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:32:11 PM
CynInOregon  :smt056 I am so sorry. Mary


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
I'm sitting here thinking about this defense team and I've come to the conclusion that maybe they are doing this for a high profile sake.  Meaning ohh since we got all these well renown people working with us the jury will just have to believe in what they say.  Has anyone felt or feel the same way about this?  Just wondering and maybe Baez is forking all this out for his new hollywood "Look".  Just thinking today...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:32:43 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 03:33:02 PM
You know, I'm not sure what if any sexual abuse Casey endured. I will say it is possible, but in the same breath that it may be another of her lies and bids for attention. In my mind, the act was committed by Casey alone and she either chloroformed her and/or left her in the car/trunk while she did the nasty with Tony OR she snapped and choked or struck the child causing her death after the big blowup with Cindy. IMO she may have been thinking about ways to rid herself of this "burden" for months, but I'm not sure Caylee's death on or about June 16 was actually her plan.

All in all, whether Casey was a victim of abuse or not, I am disgusted by her. If she didn't want to care for Caylee, many others would have loved that child and raised her as their own. How dare she treat her like trash.   
I'm almost positive that Cindy forced Casey to keep the baby when she told her she was pregnant. What are the abortion laws in Florida, did she need to have parental concent? Cindy being a nurse might have noticed morning sickness? Either way, Cindy was overbearing in insisting that this child come into the world while Casey didn't want to have a baby. That complicated by who the father is... would certainly make this all more complex.
So Casey is a victim of her mother and the baby daddy who apparently has abandoned her. As far as how far the incest went... that will come out just like the remains surfaced.

Florida does indeed have a parental consent law, and it's not to be waived even in cases of rape or incest, although the minor can get a court order. (assuming she knows how.) Casey had Caylee when she was 19, so she wasn't a minor anymore, but that doesn't seem to have made much difference in this family. There are other ways of forcing someone to have a baby, and I think Cindy was on top of all of 'em. Casey wasn't ready to support herself out there. No money, no future, no education, as Cindy said herself.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 03:33:22 PM
Does anyone remember Lois (Dakota's grandmother) stating at Murt's she saw a speck of blood on the headboard of Caylee's bed?  She said she was in Caylee's room with Dakota when they were doing the prayer vigils.  I never really thought anything about it at the time.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:33:38 PM
Don't mind me and my posts regarding the sheets.  I think I misunderstood something another poster said.  I thought there were pink flowers seen with the stuff LE had.  I've got it backwards, I think!

Yes, in bag removed from Anthony house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 03:33:41 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her

OR, the top of that comforter..scroll up and look at the picture where Cin is sitting on the floor by the bed....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: dejasade on December 12, 2008, 03:33:46 PM
hi all ~ don't feel like searching thru...anything new in the case?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 03:34:07 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

Sorry Off Topic but I just love or PI squirrel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:35:08 PM
Califmom....I read that article very interesting, just imagine how much more it will cost the taxpayers with a trial. I hope your son has a Happy Birthday, that is a fun age, and it seems so long ago when my girls were that age.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: LIMomof3 on December 12, 2008, 03:35:12 PM
My first post here, long time lurker though, hello everyone!

I pulled this off the NWS website out of Melbourne for the month of June this was their precip amounts, more likely before Faye hit, Im working through the kinks now. Not sure how to put the pic in post sorry.

http://water.weather.gov/index.php?layer%5B%5D=0&layer%5B%5D=1&layer%5B%5D=4&timetype=YM&loctype=STATE&units=engl&timeframe=current&timeYYYY=2008&timeMM=6&product=observed&loc=stateFL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 03:35:30 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Yep.  And so are George and Lee.  I cannot believe that no one in that family did the right thing and stood up for Caylee!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:35:33 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

They will also say that Zanny had a key to the Anthony house, so she could have gotten the things from the Anthonys' in order to frame Casey.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:35:39 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump


That makes me just want to go spit on cin cin.  What a witchy bitch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
I do not know what time this was Posted today - I am guessing it was posted prior to The News mid day ..

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/criminal-prof-2.html

Investigation Discovery contacted top criminal profiler Pat Brown today and asked her to share her thoughts on how yesterday's discovery of child skeletal remains will affect Casey Anthony's cooperation in the case, if those remains are identified as that of Anthony's missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee.

"Casey Anthony, since she exhibits psychopathological behaviors and has a history of pathological lying, can be expected to change her story as is necessary to be of fullest benefit to her own survival," Brown said. "The original story of the babysitter/kidnapper served as a distraction to the more likely scenario that Casey had done something to Caylee and that Caylee was no longer alive. If she could get people to believe that Caylee was a missing child case, then the searches for Caylee would allow time for the body to decompose, the evidence to vanish, and the witnesses' memories to dwindle and become less credible. Then when the believability factor of that story began to slide, especially when evidence from the trunk indicated Caylee was dead, Casey still could hope the body wouldn’t be found, so she stuck to the story."

According to Brown, Casey will most likely meet with her attorney to determine which story she should move forward with, so as to get the least amount of time behind bars.

"If no evidence points to the house, then likely Casey will still claim someone else did it, but when the police were closing in, killed Caylee and tried to frame her (by placing the body close to her house)," Brown said. "If on the other hand, there is evidence that clearly implicates the Anthony home, then Casey will likely change the story to one of accidental death followed by an anguished and terrified mother trying to deal with a horrific situation. Of course, Casey’s behaviors of partying and such will not make her very lovable in the eyes of a jury. The lawyers may then go for the old line, ‘Yes, Casey is a disturbed woman, maybe even narcissistic, but she is not a coldblooded killer; she is merely a young, foolish girl who made a poor choice by --------fill in the blank -----leaving Caylee alone in the pool where she accidentally drowned, etc. etc."

Brown said that the strongest evidence against Anthony is the Internet searches for chloroform, neckbreaking and missing children. Those, Brown said, will show "clear premeditation."

"As to what might have been found with the child’s remains at the dump site in the woods, the most likely possibility would be the duct tape. I doubt the trash bag will be of much use because too much time has passed. If the body had been found quickly, then the bag might have been proven to belong to the same roll found in the house as the striations in the plastic are unique to each set of bags. However, so much time has passed I doubt the same set of bags would still be in the home; maybe the same brand, but not the exact same roll. The duct tape, however, could be more useful if some was torn off and the roll tossed back onto a shelf. If it hasn’t been used since, the actual location where it was torn off may match exactly to one of the ends found with the body."

In regards to other possible evidence, Brown had this to say:

"It is also always possible that some other item that actually belongs to Casey or the Anthony's was found at the site or in the bag. Casey doesn’t appear to be the brightest criminal (for if she killed Caylee and dumped her body she shouldn’t have chosen a location so close to home and at a spot where she has been known to frequent in the past). She could have accidentally left a piece of evidence at the dump site which unquestionably came from the home. She might have been in a rush and been careless or she might simply have been so arrogant she thought no one would ever find the dump site."

And where does the case go from here?

"I think Casey Anthony will finally get what’s coming to her, but she might not get as much as everyone wishes," Brown said. "We will have to see how all that pans out in court."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 03:35:50 PM
I am also curious about this item I see poking out, looks like a wooden stick of some sort. Ideas???

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/evdremov.jpg)

a small shovel, perhaps???? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:36:13 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

You're right. The transfer issue will get a bit harder when a death date is set vs. when Casey says she last spoke with her. Nothing will help Casey if her prints show up on duct tape or the tape can be tied to a roll within the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:36:22 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Yup!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:36:40 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her

OR, the top of that comforter..scroll up and look at the picture where Cin is sitting on the floor by the bed....

yes it's possible. was clearer in the video but fuzzy in the screen cap. Something about its "buoyancy" if that makes sense made me think it was a pillow, but the comforter could be in there as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
My first post here, long time lurker though, hello everyone!

I pulled this off the NWS website out of Melbourne for the month of June this was their precip amounts, more likely before Faye hit, Im working through the kinks now. Not sure how to put the pic in post sorry.

http://water.weather.gov/index.php?layer%5B%5D=0&layer%5B%5D=1&layer%5B%5D=4&timetype=YM&loctype=STATE&units=engl&timeframe=current&timeYYYY=2008&timeMM=6&product=observed&loc=stateFL
WELCOME and thank-you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 12, 2008, 03:37:31 PM
There is no way the Ant's are ponying up any money for their daughter's defense! She chose JB, they are not happy with her choice, he's in too deep now, so it all has to come from his pocket. I'm sure he will make it up in his movie and book deals. The Ant's and their money are not easily departed. Did you see how many pics they had on Larry King??? Oh yeah, that cost LK a pretty penny!

If the Ant's go on LK tonight, after all this information has come out, they are just as cold blooded as their daughter and deserve the beating the public is going to give them!!

I just heard on the news that the As are supposed to comment on yesterday's findings and the search of their home on LK's show tonight. Absolutely mind boggling. Also, LK is such a creep for giving them air time. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ugghhh I keep trying to catch up!! I just heard this too. I can't believe it! How can they make an appearance on LK like they are some sort of celebrities? Especially when they now know it is most likely Caylee that has been found in the woods around the corner from their own house. How can they continue on making tv appearances like they were doing when the "believed" she was alive? I hope they think this through. If they appear tonight it is not going to be because they grieve for their granddaughter, it will be to either say it can't be Caylee or they will go on to say that KC is innocent. I believe if they are truly grieving they would not be able to go on air live knowing Caylee is deceased. How could they?? How could they have themselves together enough to make a tv appearance. Maybe in a few weeks, but not today, it just doesn't seem possible. Maybe they're just so far gone in their minds? I don't know because it makes no sense to me.  

I believe that the ongoing enabling of their daughter is the reason George and Cindy will continue to accept invitation for guest appearances on talk shows.

Guest appearances by George and Cindy on THE TODAY SHOW and LARRY KING LIVE implies large sums of monies received for photo rights are being channeled directly Casey's defence fund.

Judge Strickland contributed to the Anthony's ongoing gravey train when he denied the State Attorney's motion for a "gag" order last month.

Janet

+++++


Gag Order Denied In Anthony Case
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:45:01 PM


ORLANDO -- A judge has denied a controversial motion to put a gag order on Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez.

On Tuesday, prosecutors argued in court for the gag order, which would prevent Anthony's attorney Jose Baez from speaking out about the case.  They said Baez's frequent statements to the media are tainting the possible jury pool when Anthony goes on trial next year for the murder of her 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.
   
However, Baez said prosecutors and investigators have done that by leaking information over the last several months.
   
The state's motion also included a gag order on Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony.  However, the judge told them in court any order he issued would not apply to them.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/11/26/gag_order_ruling_expected_wednesday.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 03:37:33 PM
I am trying to get info out of this girl on another message board I go to that is unrelated to the Anthony case. She apperently knows Lee Anthony and has met Caylee before. She wont' tell me anything b/c apperenlty she was told to keep her mouth shut(probably by police) about everything.  I  really am curious as to what she knows.

Thanks Willen - interresting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:37:51 PM

I do hope the people of Orlando are outraged at their tax dollars being used to protect the A's........they have known for months now that Caylee was deceased and have kept their fund raising (living off Caylee while she is DEAD) efforts, collecting money for going on TV shows and SELLING pictures and VIDEOS of Caylee (living off Caylee) and aiding and abetting their daughter in her lies and letting that baby lay in the mud and rot!  God forgive, but I can not.

POST OF THE DAY!!!

Thanks Sunny.

Cindy and George have lost their beloved Caylee Marie but ... the charade of the past five months ... the outright scamming of the taxpayers and donors ... imply that compassion for these grandparents is soooo difficult.

Janet



No compassion here.NONE.Sorry!Better go hire a defense attorney.When this timeline is put together,as well as the behavior of the grandparents it's going to to be heartbreaking!May God wrap is arms around Caylee...

HE already has....HE took her home...this family never deserved that baby!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:38:07 PM
Does anyone remember Lois (Dakota's grandmother) stating at Murt's she saw a speck of blood on the headboard of Caylee's bed?  She said she was in Caylee's room with Dakota when they were doing the prayer vigils.  I never really thought anything about it at the time.

Lisa
No  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 03:38:21 PM
Hurricane Faye came through sometime during all this.

IIR, Fay, I believe came in August but definitely deposited a lot of rain to add to the already standing water. 

I found this site.  You can look up every single day if you go to the archive by day, and isolate Florida.  I found it interesting and maybe some smarter monkeys can get more information than I could.  I'm embarased to say that I'm not even sure where orlando is on this thing! ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/rfcshare/precip_analysis_new.php


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: momma monkey on December 12, 2008, 03:38:55 PM

Yesterday I posted something that Sheriff Beary said about all of this money being spent... He said that he was going into unchartered territory, but he was going to do something to "re-coup" the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case to pay back the tax paying citizens.

This is my opinion only... but I believe that when he said that, he meant that he was going to try to go after the Anthony's for lying and covering up.  JMO


I sure hope you are right...these people are the lowest form of creature that crawls this earth.....making money using Caylee while she is rotting  20 houses down...OHMYGAWD!  I'd spit in their faces if I ever saw them!!


I second that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 03:39:04 PM

<snipped>
Kim Guilfoyle made a good point about others might be charged later with conspiracy or with lying to police.  As she said, loving your daughter is not an excuse to cover up or destroy evidence.


Dutch law states otherwise.  Family members of a suspect are given a free pass to obstruct the investigation.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

++++++++

PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT

‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777




And ...There's the rub: - 'Dutch Law' plays by different rules - not conducive to truth and justice ~ !  In my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 03:39:55 PM
Does anyone remember Lois (Dakota's grandmother) stating at Murt's she saw a speck of blood on the headboard of Caylee's bed?  She said she was in Caylee's room with Dakota when they were doing the prayer vigils.  I never really thought anything about it at the time.

Lisa
No  ::MonkeyEek::

I remember she stated it around the time when LP was searching Blanchard Park.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: doselady51 on December 12, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



It's nearly impossible to grab the end of the duct tape on a roll wearing any type of gloves.  Also, it's true that to tear the tape (without scissors), you often have to bite with your teeth to start it then you can tear the tape off.  That's why Dr. Baden feels there will be either fingerprints or DNA on that duct tape linking back to the killer (which will be Caylee, IMO).
Yes I heard him say all of that too last night.  I found it very interesting!!  I just watch too much CSI and thought gloves could be used.  Thanks for the clarification Klaas!  :)
Even in the medical field it is nearly impossible to deal with tape with gloves on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 03:40:52 PM
THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/7/l_cbf82688aed1438e89d4bd0c54bb2cc8.jpg)

Let's just hope that there is some tissue left do provide a fingerprint analysis


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 03:41:21 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
Reading through the posts and wondering what could have been found last night that would immediately tie the remains to the house. It seemed to be an almost immediate thing.   Being the self important person that Casey thinks she is, what would she put with Caylee.  My thought is she put a picture of herself -- mommy.  I would think a frame and the bag might have protected a picture.  Maybe it was a locket.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:41:57 PM


I guess I am the invisible one today... I have posted this twice and I'm thinking I am the only one who thought his statement was interesting.  I know the board is moving fast, so not every post is answered and I know I am not a regular "poster" but I have posted this a few times  :(   
ON the brighter side of things... Today is my son's 3rd birthday!!  As soon as he gets up from his nap, I am going to smother him with big fat smooches & hugs!!  Poor Caylee didn't get to celebrate her third birthday... makes me so sad!!
Have a great day everyone!!
God Bless Caylee!!!

You are not invisible ::MonkeyDance::....I am sorry I didn't see your post.....I think like me others are going from one news site to another..Give that little boy a hug for me too ::MonkeyWink:: and tell him Happy Birthday from Auntie Sunny..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:42:27 PM
My first post here, long time lurker though, hello everyone!

I pulled this off the NWS website out of Melbourne for the month of June this was their precip amounts, more likely before Faye hit, Im working through the kinks now. Not sure how to put the pic in post sorry.

http://water.weather.gov/index.php?layer%5B%5D=0&layer%5B%5D=1&layer%5B%5D=4&timetype=YM&loctype=STATE&units=engl&timeframe=current&timeYYYY=2008&timeMM=6&product=observed&loc=stateFL

Thanks, LIMomof3

And, welcome to the cage!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/bananawelcome.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Deenie on December 12, 2008, 03:42:49 PM
I dont want to Re-Copy (saving space :) _ but that Pic of CINDY In Caylee's Room ...sitting on the floor with the Stuffed Animal .....

I wonder How Much CIN CIN Got Paid for that Pose ?? That was from the 20/20 show was it not? Me thinks its was.
Profit is always in their thoughts ....





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:42:55 PM
Califmom I know how you feel, I've spent time writing lots of posts not knowing if anyone actually even read them because they got no response. I can tell though it's not intentional by anyone or "personal" for that matter. It is just so busy and everything is moving so fast that no one can keep up. I skipped a lot of pages because it was taking too long to catch up. I don't respond to most of the posts I read either. So don't worry, all the monkeys are jreally very friendly, but it's so crowded in the cage since yesterday that it's easy to get lost! Heck, probably no one will respond to this post either, but that's ok!  
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance:: Monkeys Rule!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/l_509adc26281c4e90a7f4847fb408ed0c.jpg)

Little Mama - thanks for posting all these pictures of Caylee...what a beautiful, charming little girl!  She stole many hearts...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
Spokeswoman said it was still up in the air
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!
Spokeswoman said no.

Heard on Head Lines News on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 03:43:45 PM
Comparison - looks like the pillow to me

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mrsrocko19 on December 12, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her

OR, the top of that comforter..scroll up and look at the picture where Cin is sitting on the floor by the bed....

yes it's possible. was clearer in the video but fuzzy in the screen cap. Something about its "buoyancy" if that makes sense made me think it was a pillow, but the comforter could be in there as well.
A folded comforter would look like two pillows to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:44:33 PM
Had Caylee never been to a dentist?  I was so hoping that dental records would be able to give us definitive results even before the DNA results would be available.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 03:44:36 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


 i wish he wouldn't comment now that his wife represents the defendant.


Dr. Baden should recuse himself from any further comments - as should Kobelinski.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littletxlady on December 12, 2008, 03:44:39 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her

OR, the top of that comforter..scroll up and look at the picture where Cin is sitting on the floor by the bed....

yes it's possible. was clearer in the video but fuzzy in the screen cap. Something about its "buoyancy" if that makes sense made me think it was a pillow, but the comforter could be in there as well.


I read in one of the news reports this a.m. that one of the things they took from the house was a "small pillow." Not sure which report I've read soooo many.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:45:01 PM
Does anyone remember Lois (Dakota's grandmother) stating at Murt's she saw a speck of blood on the headboard of Caylee's bed?  She said she was in Caylee's room with Dakota when they were doing the prayer vigils.  I never really thought anything about it at the time.

Lisa
No  ::MonkeyEek::

I remember she stated it around the time when LP was searching Blanchard Park.

Lisa

I don't recall her stating that, but it's possible..  however, a speck of blood in a child's room doesn't necessarily mean anything.  She could have cut herself, had a bloody nose...  it wasn't all wiped up. Who knows..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:45:01 PM
Does anyone remember Lois (Dakota's grandmother) stating at Murt's she saw a speck of blood on the headboard of Caylee's bed?  She said she was in Caylee's room with Dakota when they were doing the prayer vigils.  I never really thought anything about it at the time.

Lisa
No  ::MonkeyEek::

Caylee's or Casey's bed? "Headboard" I would think would have been Casey's bed.

I vaguely remember this ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 03:45:05 PM
I heard Doctor Biden last night on Greta, he was talking about the duct tape, and made mention that gloves do not work when working with duct tape.....I assumed they would work, just be difficult, but he made it sound like an impossibility.



It's nearly impossible to grab the end of the duct tape on a roll wearing any type of gloves.  Also, it's true that to tear the tape (without scissors), you often have to bite with your teeth to start it then you can tear the tape off.  That's why Dr. Baden feels there will be either fingerprints or DNA on that duct tape linking back to the killer (which will be Caylee, IMO).
Yes I heard him say all of that too last night.  I found it very interesting!!  I just watch too much CSI and thought gloves could be used.  Thanks for the clarification Klaas!  :)
Even in the medical field it is nearly impossible to deal with tape with gloves on.

aint that the truth!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 12, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Is this New carpet in the bedroom??Are there other pictures before that might show a different type of carpet??Anyone know??TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 03:45:18 PM
My first post here, long time lurker though, hello everyone!

I pulled this off the NWS website out of Melbourne for the month of June this was their precip amounts, more likely before Faye hit, Im working through the kinks now. Not sure how to put the pic in post sorry.

http://water.weather.gov/index.php?layer%5B%5D=0&layer%5B%5D=1&layer%5B%5D=4&timetype=YM&loctype=STATE&units=engl&timeframe=current&timeYYYY=2008&timeMM=6&product=observed&loc=stateFL
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2d7h36g.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 03:45:51 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
Spokeswoman said it was still up in the air
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!
Spokeswoman said no.

Heard on Head Lines News on TV.


Thanks, Today! I did just see on Foxnews where the A's are back, but they wouldn't talk, went straight into the garage!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: LIMomof3 on December 12, 2008, 03:45:52 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome! The precip amounts are totals for the month of June but as someone else stated you can go day by day. There wasnt much rain prior to June 16th, not out of the ordinary for Florida. Glad I can help!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:46:32 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

The addition of bona fide lawyers accustomed to high profile cases may have been a turning point for this defense. Baez has treated this case like a Mayberry episode. He's acted like why worry about this or that, my client will be able to mezmorize the entire country, he's not acted with any urgency on any issue. Now he's in the company of professionals who may be advising hom to smarten up.
 As for Casey....................my thoughts would burn up this computer if typed

Shout out to Klass and CBB again for fixing my avi.. Thank you ::MonkeyWink::


What was that that Baez said about how when the truth came out...?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:46:34 PM
I am trying to get info out of this girl on another message board I go to that is unrelated to the Anthony case. She apperently knows Lee Anthony and has met Caylee before. She wont' tell me anything b/c apperenlty she was told to keep her mouth shut(probably by police) about everything.  I  really am curious as to what she knows.

Good Luck....now would be the time for anyone who knows anything to talk to the LE...not message boards....that is if LE told her to keep her mouth shut...even though we'd love her to talk.......if LEE told her to then she surely needs to contact the LE immediately


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
Comparison - looks like the pillow to me

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)

me too..also, has Dr Baden decided to be on the defense team? PLease tell me no, because I have always loved him..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
Comparison - looks like the pillow to me

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)

this makes me think an item of Caylee's bedding was recovered with the remains. But I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 03:47:10 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

They will also say that Zanny had a key to the Anthony house, so she could have gotten the things from the Anthonys' in order to frame Casey.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
YES!  They have already said that.  I believe Cindy asked Casey if Zanny had a key and could have been in their house on the taped jail videos that were just released!  And Casey said it was possible!! 

Sounds like Casey and Cindy were speaking in code, trying to make sure they stay one step ahead in the investigation, as in...what to do if body is found?  Claim Zanny had a key!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 12, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys!

I've spent most of the day clearing six inches of slush out of my driveway..would much rather have two feet of snow....and I see that I'm now 50 pages behind since my morning cup of coffee  ::MonkeyWaa::

Two quick questions... Have the A's been allowed back in their house? & Have we seen a copy of the search warrant ?
TIA

Oh..BTW I found BOB !  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/funny-pictures-bob-is-launched-into.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
Welcome LIMomof3!!!!!!!!!!!! ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

LOL.  At first I thought you were talking about Melbourne, Australia!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Geography & I are strangers.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/rfcshare/precip_analysis_new.php

Here's that link I found with the precip by day for Florida, if any one missed it, or cares to check it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:47:41 PM
I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...
On my Ethan Allen furniture, not sure which brand the crib is, no the bars and pieces that go into other pieces and are hidden are not finished with paint or stain.  The piece of furniture is stained or painted after its put together.  That is what I remember from watching my hubs put the crib together.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:47:45 PM
I am still curious to know if George was able to get his gun back once Casey was sent back to jail. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 03:48:01 PM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 
good moring monkeys           You kill you daughter- accident they say-well  you should be upset and when you bury this baby you would want to wrap her in her favorite blanet-put the things that she loves with her.  not just put her in a garbage bag.  This was no accident-is it an accident if you give your child a loaded gun to play with and then the gun goes off.   DEATH PENALTY PERIOD let her spend the rest of her life wondering what it going to like when someone puts her in a plastic bag--George and Cindy go on Larry King tonight A DISGRACE

The crime isn't what she did with the body after it was dead. The crime is that she killed her.  It wasn't an accident. If it had been, she'd have called an ambulance or driven straight to the hospital. I know there are people who don't call police because they're involved with illegal stuff, but even they will call emergency numbers when a child is hurt or dying.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 03:48:05 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Is this New carpet in the bedroom??Are there other pictures before that might show a different type of carpet??Anyone know??TIA


Can someone zoom in on this bedding?  I'm at work and wouldn't know the first thing to do on this annoying laptop.  I'm really thinking there's a lot of pink in the flowery parts of that bedding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:48:40 PM
What was that that Baez said about how when the truth came out...?

I remember some insinuation that he had inside info on the paternity. But that's just my memory ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 03:48:55 PM
Comparison - looks like the pillow to me

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)

To me too....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:49:40 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/18266421/index.html

"Anthonys respond to discovery..." 
"George and Cindy Anthony are home; media waiting for possible comment."

(right now it's just a live shot, with nothing happening.  Car in driveway, police car blocking driveway).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:49:49 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??


I haven't heard anymore about the clothes that were found.....I didn't hear if they were a child's or adult's...nothing at all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 03:49:54 PM
I need to step away for a bit. This is getting to hard and emotional for me. My daughter was stolen from us 1 year ago tomorrow. I would give my own life to have her back and hearing what this sick, disgusting Casey may have done.
I don't want to sound selfish here...but I can't do this right now.
Be back later when I have composed some.


Hugs to you Cyn.  :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:51:19 PM
I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...
On my Ethan Allen furniture, not sure which brand the crib is, no the bars and pieces that go into other pieces and are hidden are not finished with paint or stain.  The piece of furniture is stained or painted after its put together.  That is what I remember from watching my hubs put the crib together.  :)

hmm. I just wondered if maybe that piece of wood in the evidence bag might be a slat form the crib/bed. Maybe not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
I am still curious to know if George was able to get his gun back once Casey was sent back to jail. 
I have no idea, but I don't think it would be a good idea to give George the gun back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:51:55 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys!

I've spent most of the day clearing six inches of slush out of my driveway..would much rather have two feet of snow....and I see that I'm now 50 pages behind since my morning cup of coffee  ::MonkeyWaa::

Two quick questions... Have the A's been allowed back in their house? & Have we seen a copy of the search warrant ?
TIA

Oh..BTW I found BOB !  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/funny-pictures-bob-is-launched-into.jpg)



Hey there, SS:

Yes, they have been allowed back into their house. It was cleared this morning.

I have not seen a search warrant. But I do know, they recovered a laptop, papers, numerous vacuum cleaners, among just some of the things they took out. There were at least 3 large boxes, and many brown paper bags of evidence recovered. Dr. Baden said that they use paper bags, because they "breathe" and thus the evidence is not harmed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: txlisa on December 12, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/18266421/index.html

"Anthonys respond to discovery..." 
"George and Cindy Anthony are home; media waiting for possible comment."

(right now it's just a live shot, with nothing happening.  Car in driveway, police car blocking driveway).

I know what their comment will be...."Zanny did it!" ::MonkeyRoll::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: beachabealways on December 12, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Is this New carpet in the bedroom??Are there other pictures before that might show a different type of carpet??Anyone know??TIA

Looks pretty new to me. We have off-white carpet in our home and we never wear shoes in the house so that it stays clean. Why would anyone put white or off-white carpet in a childs room?
I don't have children but if I did I would use a different color for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: yeknomaras on December 12, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:52:40 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter

Yep.  And so are George and Lee.  I cannot believe that no one in that family did the right thing and stood up for Caylee!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lisa

neither can I......no one....how painful


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:52:53 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 03:52:57 PM
Nikki - it's Dr. Baden's wife who is an attorney, that appears to be on the defence team.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 03:53:11 PM
Here is the June 2008 weather chart for Orlando showing rainfall.
Example:
June 16  1.15
June 18    .78
June 25  1.74
June 30  1.29 + alot under 1" during the month with less than 3" before June 16
Total rain for June 9.73


One of the neighbors said that area is flooded most of the summer and it just went down a week or two ago.
http://www.ouc.com/business/Orlando%20Weather%20Comparison%20June%202008.pdf (http://www.ouc.com/business/Orlando%20Weather%20Comparison%20June%202008.pdf)

The neighbor [ young male who lives close by ] I saw yesterday being interviewed said it floods in the summer and is dry in the winter months.  It's truly a 'wetlands' area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...
On my Ethan Allen furniture, not sure which brand the crib is, no the bars and pieces that go into other pieces and are hidden are not finished with paint or stain.  The piece of furniture is stained or painted after its put together.  That is what I remember from watching my hubs put the crib together.  :)

hmm. I just wondered if maybe that piece of wood in the evidence bag might be a slat form the crib/bed. Maybe not.
You miss read me my sweet friend.  I was confirming that some ends of the pieces that fit into one another were unfinished, not stained, not painted...I do not know how to say that they were bare wood. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:53:47 PM
IMO if Caylee had no clothes and and if she was duct taped (the body and not just the bag), Casey did these things after the fact to stage a different type of crime. 
good moring monkeys           You kill you daughter- accident they say-well  you should be upset and when you bury this baby you would want to wrap her in her favorite blanet-put the things that she loves with her.  not just put her in a garbage bag.  This was no accident-is it an accident if you give your child a loaded gun to play with and then the gun goes off.   DEATH PENALTY PERIOD let her spend the rest of her life wondering what it going to like when someone puts her in a plastic bag--George and Cindy go on Larry King tonight A DISGRACE

The crime isn't what she did with the body after it was dead. The crime is that she killed her.  It wasn't an accident. If it had been, she'd have called an ambulance or driven straight to the hospital. I know there are people who don't call police because they're involved with illegal stuff, but even they will call emergency numbers when a child is hurt or dying.



And an accident sure as ***  doesn't involved duct taping a child's mouth.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:53:55 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!
I'm not sure about purchasing trash bags. But I did read the lady who took the Anthony trash, did keep the garbage bag, smart lady.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 03:54:10 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I don't have any idea, looking back for the discussion we had here about the target receipts...will post link if I find it.

I just wanted to let you know I SEE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 03:54:27 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)
Yes to me to and they have two of them..Casey probley went to jc pennys and got a new one to replace the one caylee had with her


OMG, I just had a thought that KC could have suffocated Caylee.  This just gets worse and worse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: JodyO on December 12, 2008, 03:54:46 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

2. I think I read on here last nite or sometime this morning that the woman had kept the bag.
1. Someone posted earlier that they don't believe there were trash bags on the Target receipt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:54:54 PM
My first post here, long time lurker though, hello everyone!

I pulled this off the NWS website out of Melbourne for the month of June this was their precip amounts, more likely before Faye hit, Im working through the kinks now. Not sure how to put the pic in post sorry.

http://water.weather.gov/index.php?layer%5B%5D=0&layer%5B%5D=1&layer%5B%5D=4&timetype=YM&loctype=STATE&units=engl&timeframe=current&timeYYYY=2008&timeMM=6&product=observed&loc=stateFL
WELCOME and thank-you.

Welcome and thanks for the link!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: numbersgirl on December 12, 2008, 03:55:25 PM
Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?

I think it would have been dry when the body was placed there and then it rained soon after flooding the area.

On July 18, 2008 Hurricane Cristobal was located off the Georgia/SC coast located at 31.9N,79.6W, I can't seem to find any location further back before this date but I'm sure it came close to Orlando, FL.  Maybe a Floridian Monkey remembers.  I'm from Ohio (don't laugh Dolce!) but I know those tropical type storms sit and spin and dump a lot of rain in one area over a brief amount of time. 


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/2008/cristobal.html?nav=1



So, does that mean that maybe the ground was dry when KC dumped Caylee's body, and then the rains hit later on?

Personally, I don't think she was put on dry land. I heard yesterday that the area she was found is swampy. And that it had just dried up a bit recently, in the past couple of weeks.

But we don't know what the ground conditions were there in June yet.

So it's anyone's guess until we find out.

(A black plastic bag will turn green grass brown almost overnight, so the fact that the grass/weeds under the bag were brown/dead, does not necessarily mean that it had been there for a long time.)

I believe it is possible that she was put into water and over time, the bag was washed up to where it was found.



IDK Brandi, but at this point, I have to know!!!!!! Going to the national weather service website and seeing if I can find anything else.  BRB

Channel 9 interviewed a young man yesterday whose property abuts the area where Caylee was found.  He stated that area was covered in water all summer, from waist deep to knee deep.  I believe Tim Miller stated it was Hurricane Faye that came through that area and dumped all the water...hope this helps Lovinlife.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:55:28 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/18266421/index.html

"Anthonys respond to discovery..." 
"George and Cindy Anthony are home; media waiting for possible comment."

(right now it's just a live shot, with nothing happening.  Car in driveway, police car blocking driveway).

Thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 
Yes it was a brown bag.  I mentioned her last night, I think she handed that stuff over to LE, well the hat and the notes IIRC.  Junky why not go ask WS and find out if she kept the actual bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 03:56:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.

Thank you. That is chilling.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 03:57:20 PM
I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...
On my Ethan Allen furniture, not sure which brand the crib is, no the bars and pieces that go into other pieces and are hidden are not finished with paint or stain.  The piece of furniture is stained or painted after its put together.  That is what I remember from watching my hubs put the crib together.  :)

hmm. I just wondered if maybe that piece of wood in the evidence bag might be a slat form the crib/bed. Maybe not.
You miss read me my sweet friend.  I was confirming that some ends of the pieces that fit into one another were unfinished, not stained, not painted...I do not know how to say that they were bare wood. 

(love to Dolce) well, it's possible ... anyone else think so?

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/evdremov.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 03:57:40 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.
Thank-you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Blonde on December 12, 2008, 03:58:30 PM
Remains Tentatively ID'd as Missing Girl
CNN

posted: 10 MINUTES AGO

filed under: Crime News, National News

ORLANDO, Fla. (Dec. 12) -- A corpse has been tentatively identified as missing toddler Caylee Anthony's, attorneys for her mother told a Florida judge on Friday.
Lawyer Linda Kenney Baden said in court that investigators said they "were proceeding as if this were little Caylee Anthony."

Investigators have tentatively identified remains found in central Florida as those of missing Florida girl Caylee Anthony, lawyers for the girl's mother told a judge on Friday. One of the attorneys said that strands of hair found with the remains matched the toddler's, adding that investigators said they "were proceeding as if this were little Caylee Anthony," CNN reports.

Strands of hair found with the remains, found Thursday a half mile from the home of Caylee's grandparents, are the same color as the 3-year-old's, the lawyer said. The age and measurements also were a match for Caylee, Baden added.
Attorneys were in court seeking access to the remains and other forensic evidence.
Casey Anthony, 22, is charged with killing her daughter, but her lawyers insist she is innocent.
Prosecutors said the request was premature, given that the remains have not been positively identified. The defense countered that a tentative identification had been made.
Overnight, investigators searched the home of Caylee's grandparents and took several bags of potential evidence, Orange County, Florida, Sheriff Kevin Beary said Friday morning.
Caylee often lived in the house with her grandparents and her mother, who was arrested in October and charged with murder.
Investigators "concluded there were certain things they wanted to be looking for" and searched the home, Beary said in an interview broadcast on ABC News.
Are Remains Caylee Anthony's?
A bag of human remains found in Florida may be a grisly clue in the case of Caylee Anthony, the missing 3-year-old whose mother is accused of killing her. Mark Strassmann reports.
A utility worker discovered the remains in a plastic bag around 9:30 a.m. Thursday and alerted authorities, sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons said.
Caylee has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention.
The remains were taken to the county medical examiner's office and will be sent to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia, Beary said Thursday.
Meanwhile, investigators Friday continued searching the area where the remains were found. Video Watch how a home became a crime scene »
Casey Anthony's lawyers filed an emergency motion asking that their experts be present for any forensic testing done on the remains.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 03:58:47 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!

Monken that was me all day yesterday!!  I emailed the show asking them NOT to allow this family air time. It was disrespectful to Caylee's memory for these people to be on TV at this time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
        (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/tink-lock100.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 03:59:14 PM
I am still curious to know if George was able to get his gun back once Casey was sent back to jail. 
I have no idea, but I don't think it would be a good idea to give George the gun back.

I wondered about it last night as well. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
I am still curious to know if George was able to get his gun back once Casey was sent back to jail. 
I have no idea, but I don't think it would be a good idea to give George the gun back.

No, I don't either. I was thinking...  in this kind of situation, having watched George and knowing how this is affecting him, would they make sure he didn't get it back?  Not sure whether or not they have any legal justification for doing so, but..  certainly seems like the right thing to do.  I don't know if they (he and Cindy) are willing to do anything to put the final nail in Casey's coffin (as in testify during a trial).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 03:59:39 PM
I have a quick question about the slats in the crib/bed -- would they be stained the dark cherry all the way to the top and bottom. In other words, could the very top be unfinished wood? Could a slat have been removed form the crib by LE, is what I'm getting at. Just a thought ...
On my Ethan Allen furniture, not sure which brand the crib is, no the bars and pieces that go into other pieces and are hidden are not finished with paint or stain.  The piece of furniture is stained or painted after its put together.  That is what I remember from watching my hubs put the crib together.  :)

hmm. I just wondered if maybe that piece of wood in the evidence bag might be a slat form the crib/bed. Maybe not.
You miss read me my sweet friend.  I was confirming that some ends of the pieces that fit into one another were unfinished, not stained, not painted...I do not know how to say that they were bare wood. 

(love to Dolce) well, it's possible ... anyone else think so?

There are a lot of wooden pieces of furniture on the back lanai turned Florida room of the A's home IIRC.  Why would then not keep the bed intact though and just remove the whole thing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 12, 2008, 04:00:34 PM

Hey there, SS:

Yes, they have been allowed back into their house. It was cleared this morning.

I have not seen a search warrant. But I do know, they recovered a laptop, papers, numerous vacuum cleaners, among just some of the things they took out. There were at least 3 large boxes, and many brown paper bags of evidence recovered. Dr. Baden said that they use paper bags, because they "breathe" and thus the evidence is not harmed.



Thanks Brandi..  ::MonkeyCool:: Interesting list....yet another computer.. was the vacuum cleaners "Shop Vac's" ? some are wet and dry...good for cleaning fluids

I'm going to try and read back  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:00:54 PM
Reading through the posts and wondering what could have been found last night that would immediately tie the remains to the house. It seemed to be an almost immediate thing.   Being the self important person that Casey thinks she is, what would she put with Caylee.  My thought is she put a picture of herself -- mommy.  I would think a frame and the bag might have protected a picture.  Maybe it was a locket.

I am not even going to try to speculate ::MonkeyNoNo::.....it could have been anything....I am just glad what ever it was, was found and has now been tied to the A's house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP


What was that that Baez said about how when the truth came out...?

Well, he was right in part - it sure as HELLLLLLLLLLLZZZZZZZZ is all the pieces falling together!  Yeppers, "Bias" we DO understand fully now - quit while you are ahead.  And do something with those temple peeks - PLEASE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 04:01:24 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/18266421/index.html

"Anthonys respond to discovery..." 
"George and Cindy Anthony are home; media waiting for possible comment."

(right now it's just a live shot, with nothing happening.  Car in driveway, police car blocking driveway).

Thank you

Hmmm .. I get the commercial, but no video after that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

bump

this is so staged......she is gonna rot in hell with her daughter


I so agree - so staged, it is revolting, as has been the aftermath, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Wyks on December 12, 2008, 04:02:17 PM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

VERY INTERESTING, Hiding Monkey!!

Sry if this has already been posted in full and discussed at length, am still trying to catch up!  Other monkeys have mentioned this and wondered if it were the same place, and yeppers, sure seems so!  How many of you believe that LE found a 'bomb' that day?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Sure seems to me that LE found Caylee back then, perhaps fabricating the meter reader story to give them some time?  And if so, WHY wait til now???????????  Here's the info from the above link:

Teens said they found spot months ago

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The find in the woods Thursday was not the first time that somebody had called deputies to the area.

In September five people told authorities they found something fishy there. Four of them talked spoke out on the evening after the remains of a child were found there.

Curiosity led a teenage group of friends to the Anthony’s home on September 11th.They wanted to see, first hand, all of the protestors.

They left for a tiny break, and when they returned, they accidentally missed Hopespring Drive and stumbled across the wooded area at the end of Suburban Drive.

“(There was) A place in the ground that appeared to have been dug up before,” said 17 year old Thomas Berning. “And leading down into the ground was a string with a stick tied to the end of it, we tried to give it a lift but it wouldn’t lift up.”
 
There were a bunch of trees,” added 19 year old Branden Newark. “Brush down around and then there was a like a spot where the stick was and a rope tied to it, and there were tire marks on top of it.”

“We started digging and digging and we still didn’t get to the bottom of it,” said 17 year old Patrick King. “I guess my cousin Tommy felt some sharp stuff.”

“We were using our bare hands,” said 16 year old Paul King. “We didn’t have shovels or anything.  About two feet wide and about six feet long,.”

The group of friends from Kissimmee ran out of time because the sun set. So they returned the next day.

“We saw a cop go by down to the place where it was at,” said King. “And we started talking to him telling him about it.”

With the Thursday’s discovery of a child’s bones, the group said their hearts go out to the Anthony family, if indeed, the remains are Caylee Maries.

“God bless the family,” said Newark.

Deputies told the teens that what they found was actually a bomb, nothing related the Anthony case.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:02:31 PM
Califmom I know how you feel, I've spent time writing lots of posts not knowing if anyone actually even read them because they got no response. I can tell though it's not intentional by anyone or "personal" for that matter. It is just so busy and everything is moving so fast that no one can keep up. I skipped a lot of pages because it was taking too long to catch up. I don't respond to most of the posts I read either. So don't worry, all the monkeys are jreally very friendly, but it's so crowded in the cage since yesterday that it's easy to get lost! Heck, probably no one will respond to this post either, but that's ok!  
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance:: Monkeys Rule!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


hahahaha RESPONDING AND AGREEING!!  Often when I agree with a post I don't respond. ::MonkeyTongue::.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
Thanks Numbersgirl!  

Gotta go, this is moving too fast and I've got to get some work done!  Just came in for a minute this morning and stayed all day!  Thread moving too fast for my tired eyes!  C-YA later monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 04:02:55 PM
There are a lot of wooden pieces of furniture on the back lanai turned Florida room of the A's home IIRC.  Why would then not keep the bed intact though and just remove the whole thing?

hmm. I don't know. I just find that little piece of wood odd ... just guessing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:03:22 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
Spokeswoman said it was still up in the air
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!
Spokeswoman said no.

Heard on Head Lines News on TV.

AGREE they are home...were brought home by the 'bodyguards'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:03:46 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/18266421/index.html

"Anthonys respond to discovery..." 
"George and Cindy Anthony are home; media waiting for possible comment."

(right now it's just a live shot, with nothing happening.  Car in driveway, police car blocking driveway).

Thank you

Hmmm .. I get the commercial, but no video after that.

Right now it's dark.  They were just standing outside.. then a few moments ago they played a clip of Cindy and George coming home... now it's just black screen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Golden Oldie on December 12, 2008, 04:04:10 PM
I GOT BUMPED OUT WHILE I WAS POSTING BEFORE!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Are the A's still supposed to be on LK tonight?
Spokeswoman said it was still up in the air
And I'll bet the JCP purchase was to replace the bedding!!
On Foxnews they were discussing Caylee knowing because there would be no reason to tape a sleeping child OMG!!!!!

The A's are back at home, too!!
Spokeswoman said no.

Heard on Head Lines News on TV.


Thanks, Today! I did just see on Foxnews where the A's are back, but they wouldn't talk, went straight into the garage!


Well, my my.  Isn't that a new one for cin cin!  Cat got your tung?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:04:51 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


 i wish he wouldn't comment now that his wife represents the defendant.


Dr. Baden should recuse himself from any further comments - as should Kobelinski.

I agree now that his wife is part of the defense team...as far as Koby goes....LOL....NG needs a whipping boy!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 12, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: My little Grandson is on his way...and he wants a Christmas Tree in the bedroom.By golly he's getting one too.After the last 24hrs I don't think he is asking for too much.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I'll be back in a little while.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: LIMomof3 on December 12, 2008, 04:05:13 PM
Welcome LIMomof3!!!!!!!!!!!! ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

LOL.  At first I thought you were talking about Melbourne, Australia!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Geography & I are strangers.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/rfcshare/precip_analysis_new.php

Here's that link I found with the precip by day for Florida, if any one missed it, or cares to check it out.


LOL!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:06:06 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html   911 call  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 04:06:14 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

They will also say that Zanny had a key to the Anthony house, so she could have gotten the things from the Anthonys' in order to frame Casey.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I agree - hence Cindy's deliberate focus on who else had keys to the house during one of those 'jailhouse' videos [ which all knew were being scrutinized ] she and George did with Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: JOLfan on December 12, 2008, 04:06:16 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys!

I've spent most of the day clearing six inches of slush out of my driveway..would much rather have two feet of snow....and I see that I'm now 50 pages behind since my morning cup of coffee  ::MonkeyWaa::

Two quick questions... Have the A's been allowed back in their house? & Have we seen a copy of the search warrant ?
TIA

Oh..BTW I found BOB !  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/funny-pictures-bob-is-launched-into.jpg)



Hey there, SS:

Yes, they have been allowed back into their house. It was cleared this morning.

I have not seen a search warrant. But I do know, they recovered a laptop, papers, numerous vacuum cleaners, among just some of the things they took out. There were at least 3 large boxes, and many brown paper bags of evidence recovered. Dr. Baden said that they use paper bags, because they "breathe" and thus the evidence is not harmed.



You did find Bob!!  I am going to watch that movie this weekend(What about Bob) for a nice blast of comedy after all this sadness. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Garden Gnome on December 12, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
Hurricane Faye came through sometime during all this.

I was mistaken.  Not the first or last time, I am sure. LOL  I thought we got a ts in June but wiki says no.  Well, I stand by the heavy rains on a daily basis in the summer!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

VERY INTERESTING, Hiding Monkey!!

Sry if this has already been posted in full and discussed at length, am still trying to catch up!  Other monkeys have mentioned this and wondered if it were the same place, and yeppers, sure seems so!  How many of you believe that LE found a 'bomb' that day?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Sure seems to me that LE found Caylee back then, perhaps fabricating the meter reader story to give them some time?  And if so, WHY wait til now???????????  Here's the info from the above link:

Teens said they found spot months ago

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The find in the woods Thursday was not the first time that somebody had called deputies to the area.

In September five people told authorities they found something fishy there. Four of them talked spoke out on the evening after the remains of a child were found there.

Curiosity led a teenage group of friends to the Anthony’s home on September 11th.They wanted to see, first hand, all of the protestors.

They left for a tiny break, and when they returned, they accidentally missed Hopespring Drive and stumbled across the wooded area at the end of Suburban Drive.

“(There was) A place in the ground that appeared to have been dug up before,” said 17 year old Thomas Berning. “And leading down into the ground was a string with a stick tied to the end of it, we tried to give it a lift but it wouldn’t lift up.”
 
There were a bunch of trees,” added 19 year old Branden Newark. “Brush down around and then there was a like a spot where the stick was and a rope tied to it, and there were tire marks on top of it.”

“We started digging and digging and we still didn’t get to the bottom of it,” said 17 year old Patrick King. “I guess my cousin Tommy felt some sharp stuff.”

“We were using our bare hands,” said 16 year old Paul King. “We didn’t have shovels or anything.  About two feet wide and about six feet long,.”

The group of friends from Kissimmee ran out of time because the sun set. So they returned the next day.

“We saw a cop go by down to the place where it was at,” said King. “And we started talking to him telling him about it.”

With the Thursday’s discovery of a child’s bones, the group said their hearts go out to the Anthony family, if indeed, the remains are Caylee Maries.

“God bless the family,” said Newark.

Deputies told the teens that what they found was actually a bomb, nothing related the Anthony case.



What in the HELL?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on December 12, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
Wow just watching the court proceedings again and I heard that they even have Dr. Kathy Reich's on call, she's the anthropologist that writes books and the tv series bones is based upon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 04:08:22 PM
ok, saying one more thing then I'll drop the crib set stuff ... what if a crib sheet was with the remains and Casey bought a new sheet that didn't exactly match but was close enough? We can see the comfoerter etc. clearly in the pic of cin cin but not the sheet. Just another thought. ok, I think I'm all thunk out.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:09:04 PM
There are a lot of wooden pieces of furniture on the back lanai turned Florida room of the A's home IIRC.  Why would then not keep the bed intact though and just remove the whole thing?

hmm. I don't know. I just find that little piece of wood odd ... just guessing.
I am with you 100%.  Now I want to know what it is!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:09:07 PM

What in the HELL?????

I thought the same thing and was going to post this article myself.. but then it said the police told them it was a bomb they found, and nothing else.  (Guess they didn't look that hard, did they?  ::MonkeyConfused:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 04:09:50 PM
Well, if poor Caylee couldn't be with her favorite dollie, at least she had something soft in that damn trash bag. (that sounded a lot nicer in my head)
But the duct tape darn near kills me. May Casey rot in hell.

mary, I am waiting for an official statement about that duct tape....my mind doesn't want to go there ::MonkeyWaa::


Defense will claim that any trace evidence found was transferred there by Caylee, not Casey.  Dog hair, head hair (even Casey's), skin cells, etc. could have all been carried via Caylee since she slept with KC, lived at the house with dogs, etc.  Not that I agree; it is simply what they will claim.   However; matching bags to home, duct tape to home, etc. where ZG has never been will be more damning.  Let's hope KC was smug enough to put something physically significant like sheet, etc. into the bag. 

I have also seen several notations in media that clothes were found nearby (last several posts from local FLA  TV station) but no one has really discussed that.  Do we know anything about this??

They will also say that Zanny had a key to the Anthony house, so she could have gotten the things from the Anthonys' in order to frame Casey.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I agree - hence Cindy's deliberate focus on who else had keys to the house during one of those 'jailhouse' videos [ which all knew were being scrutinized ] she and George did with Casey.


Bingo.  That was totally deliberate.  Plantin' seeds, them Anthonys were always plantin' seeds!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: flossy on December 12, 2008, 04:11:29 PM
ok, saying one more thing then I'll drop the crib set stuff ... what if a crib sheet was with the remains and Casey bought a new sheet that didn't exactly match but was close enough? We can see the comfoerter etc. clearly in the pic of cin cin but not the sheet. Just another thought. ok, I think I'm all thunk out.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Exactly what I think happened. I'm wondering if her bedding got an "update" as a result.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: littletxlady on December 12, 2008, 04:11:38 PM

finally found it. ::MonkeyConfused::
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Investigators removed several bags of evidence from the home early Friday morning, including three vacuum cleaners and a small pillow. A total of three vehicles were filled with evidence. Lead investigator Sgt. John Allen said investigators will return on Friday to remove more evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:11:52 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I don't know the answers.....but was not ignoring you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 04:12:57 PM
I just have this really strong feeling that something is going to happen with George. I am just thinking back over all the jailhouse visits between Casey and her parents. She would always get the most emotional when she was talking with George, not Cindy. She also requested a private meeting with George at one point, but it never took place. She had passed a note to LE saying something like: "Is there ANY way I can PLEASE speak with my father alone?" That was in the 700 pages of documents that were released a few weeks ago.

Like a Victim of Incest.. ?
Casey has been covering for George the whole time ?

I need another cup of coffee

Yep. Now that the walls are closing in on the Anthony's they will sing like canaries because obviously they can't keep quiet and be normal.

Yeah, incest . . . all the vacuum cleaners got me thinking of hair, that perhaps that Caylee was raped and they might have found a particular type of hair on the body and are checking the vacuum cleaners out for the same type . . .  but then I thought, "No, no, Casey killed her -- it is obviously all her," and then the pesticide tanks made me think of George perhaps trying to clean up the bugs, and actually chloroform is an ingredient in some pesticides . . . I don't know what to think, whether he was involved in just the cleanup or the actual event.

You know, if Casey does have incest to hold over all their heads, that would explain a lot about why they've been willing to go so far to cover up for her. It would also explain how she could be so cold about her daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
Wow just watching the court proceedings again and I heard that they even have Dr. Kathy Reich's on call, she's the anthropologist that writes books and the tv series bones is based upon.

All they have is to plant doubt that the evidence was handled properly. The evidence and circumstances are all against them.

When you have nothing but guilt, then you divert the damning issues by taking a stance that nobody can draw conclusions from anything because it was all mishandled.

Remember OJ's criminal trial ??? Ditto.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 04:15:37 PM
Alright so still PMing with that girl. I had posted on the board that I thought Lee helped Casey.  She had PMed me before telling me she appreicated the fact that I PMed her first. I told her it was no problem and that I was curious to what she knew.  This is the PM exchange so far:


I know what everyone else knows, as far as police info and such, but for the record, there is nothing wrong or fishy about her brother at all.

((edit- please don't post PM's they are considered PRIVATE thus the name "private message" - if this person wanted this stuff posted in an open forum they would post it))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:15:48 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.

WOW...the caller knew or had an idea it was Caylee...he said in the Caylee Anthony area!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:16:33 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!
I'm not sure about purchasing trash bags. But I did read the lady who took the Anthony trash, did keep the garbage bag, smart lady.
Oh good, because if I recall correct from the pics here - it was a black typical bag!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mizjay on December 12, 2008, 04:18:00 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Wondering if he can collect the reward ??  For all the peace this has brought to so many, I hope he can.

(not to mention the pure hell that's come down on the slore and her evil family)  Hell, give the guy double, without his potty predicament, we'd all still only be wishing for the trial to start, now, we know kc's toast.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:18:51 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 
Yes it was a brown bag.  I mentioned her last night, I think she handed that stuff over to LE, well the hat and the notes IIRC.  Junky why not go ask WS and find out if she kept the actual bag.
Not a member there!  And thanks to all who responded.  I know I looked up items from the numbers - will find those posts and see if there were trash bags.
So......... DOLCE - you a WS?  HINT :  Can someone ask her????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 04:18:54 PM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

VERY INTERESTING, Hiding Monkey!!

Sry if this has already been posted in full and discussed at length, am still trying to catch up!  Other monkeys have mentioned this and wondered if it were the same place, and yeppers, sure seems so!  How many of you believe that LE found a 'bomb' that day?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Sure seems to me that LE found Caylee back then, perhaps fabricating the meter reader story to give them some time?  And if so, WHY wait til now???????????  Here's the info from the above link:

Teens said they found spot months ago

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The find in the woods Thursday was not the first time that somebody had called deputies to the area.

In September five people told authorities they found something fishy there. Four of them talked spoke out on the evening after the remains of a child were found there.

Curiosity led a teenage group of friends to the Anthony’s home on September 11th.They wanted to see, first hand, all of the protestors.

They left for a tiny break, and when they returned, they accidentally missed Hopespring Drive and stumbled across the wooded area at the end of Suburban Drive.

“(There was) A place in the ground that appeared to have been dug up before,” said 17 year old Thomas Berning. “And leading down into the ground was a string with a stick tied to the end of it, we tried to give it a lift but it wouldn’t lift up.”
 
There were a bunch of trees,” added 19 year old Branden Newark. “Brush down around and then there was a like a spot where the stick was and a rope tied to it, and there were tire marks on top of it.”

“We started digging and digging and we still didn’t get to the bottom of it,” said 17 year old Patrick King. “I guess my cousin Tommy felt some sharp stuff.”

“We were using our bare hands,” said 16 year old Paul King. “We didn’t have shovels or anything.  About two feet wide and about six feet long,.”

The group of friends from Kissimmee ran out of time because the sun set. So they returned the next day.

“We saw a cop go by down to the place where it was at,” said King. “And we started talking to him telling him about it.”

With the Thursday’s discovery of a child’s bones, the group said their hearts go out to the Anthony family, if indeed, the remains are Caylee Maries.

“God bless the family,” said Newark.

Deputies told the teens that what they found was actually a bomb, nothing related the Anthony case.


Their statements were in the last document dump. Prt 15, about page 27 starts several of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:19:37 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_a8765de37c7a457395e1d28271192fe1.jpg)

Everytime I see this pic I wonder how CA will feel when she has to clean out this room, knowing for sure now that Caylee will never be coming home? I can't even imagine how she is going to feel then? Don't ever want to know how that will feel.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 04:19:57 PM
I want to know what the eff that girl knows. She's on getting offended and going off on people majorily b/c they are talking shit about the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Today on December 12, 2008, 04:20:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Wondering if he can collect the reward ??  For all the peace this has brought to so many, I hope he can.

(not to mention the pure hell that's come down on the slore and her evil family)  Hell, give the guy double, without his potty predicament, we'd all still only be wishing for the trial to start, now, we know kc's toast.

The $225,000 reward ran out a long time ago.  The posters on the website list reward, but do not list an amount.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: oldfart on December 12, 2008, 04:22:53 PM
Links to the lady taking Ant's garbage 
http://www.wftv.com/news/17429219/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 04:23:37 PM
I want to know what the eff that girl knows. She's on getting offended and going off on people majorily b/c they are talking shit about the Anthonys.

Yes, there are still a handful of those nuts around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Ono on December 12, 2008, 04:23:43 PM
Dr Baden -- skull separation could be caused simply by the decomp


 i wish he wouldn't comment now that his wife represents the defendant.


Dr. Baden should recuse himself from any further comments - as should Kobelinski.

I agree now that his wife is part of the defense team...as far as Koby goes....LOL....NG needs a whipping boy!!

LOL - I think Kobe's getting a bit tired of it now !  I think he's ready to run !  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Wondering if he can collect the reward ??  For all the peace this has brought to so many, I hope he can.

(not to mention the pure hell that's come down on the slore and her evil family)  Hell, give the guy double, without his potty predicament, we'd all still only be wishing for the trial to start, now, we know kc's toast.

I know, I know ... it is not possible but I wish the money could go to pay LE back for their expenses in chasing the Anthony lies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:23:59 PM
Thing is, if it turns out that the bedding set was replaced (and that they can verify this by the receipt), then I'm wondering...  Cindy claims that Casey and Caylee did stay the night, the night of the 15th... (after the argument, I would guess- which I find odd, because I would think Casey would have wanted to get the hell out of there at that point).   Maybe Caylee died in her/their room that night..  Casey was so pissed after that argument, and I'm willing to bet that Caylee was witness to (or at least heard) everything that had happened.  So Casey wanted to cut all ties to her mother- including Caylee, who (by all accounts) was more attached Cindy, than to Casey.  You don't duct tape a person for any other reason than to either suffocate them or to keep them quiet.. and why exactly would Casey want to keep Caylee quiet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:24:18 PM
Alright so still PMing with that girl. I had posted on the board that I thought Lee helped Casey.  She had PMed me before telling me she appreicated the fact that I PMed her first. I told her it was no problem and that I was curious to what she knew.  This is the PM exchange so far:


I know what everyone else knows, as far as police info and such, but for the record, there is nothing wrong or fishy about her brother at all.

((edit- please don't post PM's they are considered PRIVATE thus the name "private message" - if this person wanted this stuff posted in an open forum they would post it))

thanks for sharing these...if you get a chance ask her WHO asked her not to talk???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: mizjay on December 12, 2008, 04:24:34 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Wondering if he can collect the reward ??  For all the peace this has brought to so many, I hope he can.

(not to mention the pure hell that's come down on the slore and her evil family)  Hell, give the guy double, without his potty predicament, we'd all still only be wishing for the trial to start, now, we know kc's toast.

The $225,000 reward ran out a long time ago.  The posters on the website list reward, but do not list an amount.

Oh well, I can dream though, I 'd rather see him profit than the a's.  THanks for the answer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: goodnmad on December 12, 2008, 04:26:59 PM
ok, gotta run monkeys, catch you later


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:27:26 PM
There are a lot of wooden pieces of furniture on the back lanai turned Florida room of the A's home IIRC.  Why would then not keep the bed intact though and just remove the whole thing?

hmm. I don't know. I just find that little piece of wood odd ... just guessing.
I am with you 100%.  Now I want to know what it is!
It kinda looks like the end of a wooden spoon - wood being porous maybe they are testing it to see if the CF was mixed with it????  Just a ponder - toss only ripe nanners - have had rough month!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: CynInOregon on December 12, 2008, 04:27:47 PM
Ok friends...I feel a bit better now.....and thank you all for the hugs and love. I said before I do not want to be coming off as selfish here.. I am not trying to steal away any attention from Caylee.
When i said our daughter was "stolen" a year ago I meant from a car accident that was a someone elses negligence....and it breaks my heart that anyone could be so cold hearted to hurt Caylee like this. As I said, and some of you have shared about others, I would give my own life it that is what it took to get Heather back.
I am so angry. And I do not understand even a little bit how the A's can live in their own skin. I do not understand how Baez can defend Casey. I don't care if it is his job. I don't care that everyone has a right to defense. I know it is right...but I don't care right now.
I want to be in that jail with Casey right now. And yes, I would hurt her.
I wish they could strap her to a chair and force her to watch every second of this as it unfolds. Panic attacks? I hope so, and I hope they hurt. I have had them, they are misserable and in her case well deserved.
I am angry to think that the A's will still stand and say that someone else did it. You know that is coming.
I feel like it has been left to those who never knew Caylee to honor, love and remember her. 
Thanks for letting me vent.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18266518/index.html

911 CALL FROM GUY WHO FOUND LITTLE CAYLEE.


Wondering if he can collect the reward ??  For all the peace this has brought to so many, I hope he can.

(not to mention the pure hell that's come down on the slore and her evil family)  Hell, give the guy double, without his potty predicament, we'd all still only be wishing for the trial to start, now, we know kc's toast.

The $225,000 reward ran out a long time ago.  The posters on the website list reward, but do not list an amount.

Oh well, I can dream though, I 'd rather see him profit than the a's.  THanks for the answer.

He may not get a monetary reward, but he sure as heck should have a big party thrown for him - for finding Caylee and immediately notifying LE.

BTW - LOVE your avitar - it's great!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: SunnyinTX on December 12, 2008, 04:28:11 PM
ok, gotta run monkeys, catch you later

later!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
I was also thinking maybe KC planted evidence that may implicate someone else (maybe in the family)to killing Caylee. Maybe just in case she was found she could blame someone else? I don't know, just wondering that because it seems they found definite evidence linking directly to the A's house. It almost seemed too easy. But leaving her right around the corner like that, she had to know she would eventually be found. I don't think she knew those storms were coming through and that it would be flooded. Probably doesn't make sense, but just a thought I had.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 12, 2008, 04:29:07 PM
Klaas:

Sorry about the PMs. I didn't know we couldn't do that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:29:37 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 
Yes it was a brown bag.  I mentioned her last night, I think she handed that stuff over to LE, well the hat and the notes IIRC.  Junky why not go ask WS and find out if she kept the actual bag.
Not a member there!  And thanks to all who responded.  I know I looked up items from the numbers - will find those posts and see if there were trash bags.
So......... DOLCE - you a WS?  HINT :  Can someone ask her????

Nope nor am I a Murter..only an SM'er.  It was a her who picked up the trash, and that "her" was said to be from WS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mstam656 on December 12, 2008, 04:31:02 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

I'm betting that Casey is going down without ever confessing. They'll take the stance that Phantom Zanny had Caylee and Phantom Zanny killed Caylee. Therefore the forensics within the bag or on the body that link Casey to the remains are all important. The timing of that phone conversation Casey says she had with Caylee is all important as well when the date of death is fixed according to decomposition.

Remember KC also said Zanny had a key to the house....so now she will say Zanny wnet into the house


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
I just couldn't get little Caylee off my mind last night.  There were so many people in this big world that would have taken that baby and have given her nothing but love for the rest of her little life. For the rest of her life, CA will have to share the guilt of this baby's death with her daughter.  KC should never have been forced into the role of motherhood.  This is by no means an attempted excuse for KC's actions but rather  a sad truth.  If CA wanted to raise little Caylee as her child, she should have done so....legally.

ITA, Annie.  It's not an excuse for murder, but it's still very sad.  Cindy seems to have wanted it both ways--she wanted to force KC to grow up and be a Mom. Maybe she herself felt like that's how it had worked for her--the baby comes along and then you grow up because you have to. Only it didn't work on KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 04:33:07 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 
Yes it was a brown bag.  I mentioned her last night, I think she handed that stuff over to LE, well the hat and the notes IIRC.  Junky why not go ask WS and find out if she kept the actual bag.
Not a member there!  And thanks to all who responded.  I know I looked up items from the numbers - will find those posts and see if there were trash bags.
So......... DOLCE - you a WS?  HINT :  Can someone ask her????

Nope nor am I a Murter..only an SM'er.  It was a her who picked up the trash, and that "her" was said to be from WS.

News Junkie -
I did a little reading over there...in one thread it was stated that the lady who took the trash bag kept it and was told how to preserve it.  So, it is my understanding that she does still have the trash bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 04:33:27 PM
Thanks OF for the link to the "trash lady".  While I was on that site I listened to LP's interview on the discovery.  In the background you could hear his phone ringing off the hook.  I couln't help thinking that it was probably Destiny calling.  Miss her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:34:39 PM
Links to the lady taking Ant's garbage 
http://www.wftv.com/news/17429219/detail.html


Thanks for helping a fellow old farteete out.  Yes, black with red ties it looks like.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 04:35:21 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash.jpg)

The lady with the trash bag from the Anthony's household.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
http://wdbo.com/slideshow/popup/woman-goes-through-anthonys-trash/1 (http://wdbo.com/slideshow/popup/woman-goes-through-anthonys-trash/1)

Her name is Loraine, the lady who took the trash from A's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: dejasade on December 12, 2008, 04:36:07 PM
Thanks OF for the link to the "trash lady".  While I was on that site I listened to LP's interview on the discovery.  In the background you could hear his phone ringing off the hook.  I couln't help thinking that it was probably Destiny calling.  Miss her. 

Where is Destiny?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 04:36:38 PM
I was also thinking maybe KC planted evidence that may implicate someone else (maybe in the family)to killing Caylee. Maybe just in case she was found she could blame someone else? I don't know, just wondering that because it seems they found definite evidence linking directly to the A's house. It almost seemed too easy. But leaving her right around the corner like that, she had to know she would eventually be found. I don't think she knew those storms were coming through and that it would be flooded. Probably doesn't make sense, but just a thought I had.
I believe a family member is going to be thrown under the bus, if this case goes to trial, count on it, just my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Monken on December 12, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
Ok friends...I feel a bit better now.....and thank you all for the hugs and love. I said before I do not want to be coming off as selfish here.. I am not trying to steal away any attention from Caylee.
When i said our daughter was "stolen" a year ago I meant from a car accident that was a someone elses negligence....and it breaks my heart that anyone could be so cold hearted to hurt Caylee like this. As I said, and some of you have shared about others, I would give my own life it that is what it took to get Heather back.
I am so angry. And I do not understand even a little bit how the A's can live in their own skin. I do not understand how Baez can defend Casey. I don't care if it is his job. I don't care that everyone has a right to defense. I know it is right...but I don't care right now.
I want to be in that jail with Casey right now. And yes, I would hurt her.
I wish they could strap her to a chair and force her to watch every second of this as it unfolds. Panic attacks? I hope so, and I hope they hurt. I have had them, they are misserable and in her case well deserved.
I am angry to think that the A's will still stand and say that someone else did it. You know that is coming.
I feel like it has been left to those who never knew Caylee to honor, love and remember her. 
Thanks for letting me vent.
 

I'm so sorry, Cyn  :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:37:03 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

I'm betting that Casey is going down without ever confessing. They'll take the stance that Phantom Zanny had Caylee and Phantom Zanny killed Caylee. Therefore the forensics within the bag or on the body that link Casey to the remains are all important. The timing of that phone conversation Casey says she had with Caylee is all important as well when the date of death is fixed according to decomposition.

Remember KC also said Zanny had a key to the house....so now she will say Zanny wnet into the house

That's Ok though because there is not one bit of evidence that "Zanny" even exists! She may as well have said she gave Mickey Mouse a key! Sorry Mickey, just using you as an example!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Brandi on December 12, 2008, 04:38:56 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash2.jpg)

Another picture of same trash bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 04:39:13 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

I'm betting that Casey is going down without ever confessing. They'll take the stance that Phantom Zanny had Caylee and Phantom Zanny killed Caylee. Therefore the forensics within the bag or on the body that link Casey to the remains are all important. The timing of that phone conversation Casey says she had with Caylee is all important as well when the date of death is fixed according to decomposition.

Remember KC also said Zanny had a key to the house....so now she will say Zanny wnet into the house

That's Ok though because there is not one bit of evidence that "Zanny" even exists! She may as well have said she gave Mickey Mouse a key! Sorry Mickey, just using you as an example!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah . . . and how would Casey explain that her fingerprints are the only ones on the duct tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Hat on December 12, 2008, 04:39:17 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Fuzzball on December 12, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?

I love how the LE sound so blase about it--"oh, yeah, that's just the bomb...been there for ages."  LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:40:24 PM
Despite nobody has answered me for my last 4- 5 posts..........
Two Questions:
1.  Didn't Casey buy trash bags on one of the target receipts?
and my better question...
2.  Who was it that collected that trash from the anthony home?  I hope they kept that bag - might be from same roll or lot - could be important.
Seems I recall it was a WS - if so, someone find out and let us know if the actual trash bag is preserved!

I remember the "trash bag lady" but not her name. Do you recall if it was a large black trash bag? 
Yes it was a brown bag.  I mentioned her last night, I think she handed that stuff over to LE, well the hat and the notes IIRC.  Junky why not go ask WS and find out if she kept the actual bag.
Not a member there!  And thanks to all who responded.  I know I looked up items from the numbers - will find those posts and see if there were trash bags.
So......... DOLCE - you a WS?  HINT :  Can someone ask her????

Nope nor am I a Murter..only an SM'er.  It was a her who picked up the trash, and that "her" was said to be from WS.
Maybe I am touchy, but where in the heck did the murter thing come from?  Sorry, I drank the kool-aid - yes, I was taken - I was too busy to research or inform myself - so yes, I trusted and I do not nor ever will regret being the person I am - who looks for the best first, who trust in spite of reasons not to, for being authentic.  the "her"  I have no idea the implication and can we save the digs for casey?  Felt a pattern here for sometime - please, respect me and i will do the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:40:35 PM
The defense can "stratetize" all they want but among the truckload of stuff they'll have to overcome is the fact that Casey said she spoke with Caylee shortly before her arrest, and the dating of the decomposition is going to fix the death date considerably earlier.

The phantom Nanny's not going to explain that.

Yes, I believe you're right.

I'm thinking that with the defense coming out and saying it's her, either Casey has admitted that this is where she put Caylee (or at least that she's responsible for her death somehow), OR the defense knows that even w/out a confession, they have no choice but to respond this way, and face the challenges ahead. (I'm hoping Casey grew a pair and confessed).

I'm betting that Casey is going down without ever confessing. They'll take the stance that Phantom Zanny had Caylee and Phantom Zanny killed Caylee. Therefore the forensics within the bag or on the body that link Casey to the remains are all important. The timing of that phone conversation Casey says she had with Caylee is all important as well when the date of death is fixed according to decomposition.

Remember KC also said Zanny had a key to the house....so now she will say Zanny wnet into the house

That's Ok though because there is not one bit of evidence that "Zanny" even exists! She may as well have said she gave Mickey Mouse a key! Sorry Mickey, just using you as an example!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BUT hasn't the whole family said all along nothing of Caylee's was missing?  So if something obvious was found in the bag tied her to the house, so obvious that they immediately knew it was Caylee, then did the "nanny" go back in after kidnapping her?  And if not, why wasn't whatever was found w/ her noticed as missing?  Hard to explain that a kidnapper would go back to the house after the fact.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 04:41:42 PM
Klaas:

Sorry about the PMs. I didn't know we couldn't do that.

In general PM's and private emails should not be posted in an open forum without the other partys consent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 04:42:03 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash2.jpg)

Another picture of same trash bag.
Those kind of trash bags are strong, but I don't believe a bag like that would be sturdy enough to hold a child's body weighing about 35 lbs. I have black trash bags that are much bigger and sturdier, maybe the Anthony's had some of those in their garage or shed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:42:34 PM
News Junkie -
I did a little reading over there...in one thread it was stated that the lady who took the trash bag kept it and was told how to preserve it.  So, it is my understanding that she does still have the trash bag.
THANK YOU - that bags might be from same batch!!!   WHOO HOO   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:43:19 PM
Maybe I am touchy, but where in the heck did the murter thing come from?   Sorry, I drank the kool-aid - yes, I was taken - I was too busy to research or inform myself - so yes, I trusted and I do not nor ever will regret being the person I am - who looks for the best first, who trust in spite of reasons not to, for being authentic.  the "her"  I have no idea the implication and can we save the digs for casey?  Felt a pattern here for sometime - please, respect me and i will do the same.

What in the heck are you talking about?????  I said Murter because WS and Murts site are the 2 sites that are frequented the most and mentioned on here.  I did not know you were a reader at Murts, nor was that a stab at you.  I do not see anyone being rude to you, other than you thinking we ignored you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mindyb on December 12, 2008, 04:43:29 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)

Or Kaylee's bed spread. My daughter has the same one and it does have ruffles on it. That poor angel my heart breaks for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:43:38 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

Hi Hat. I agree, I think she feels ALOT of guilt, and even responsable to a degree. She really does not want to believe KC could harm Caylee let alone kill her. I really think she and G are going to have a really hard time as the reality slowly sinks in. I just don't think it is going to sink in quickly, I think they will still stand by her because they don't want to believe she did this to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2008, 04:43:42 PM
Don't know exactly how to paste link but look what I just read on myfoxorlando...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=475418654ED6166CB82941483DBE44F8?contentId=8056962&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Its under caption "Teens said they found spot months ago".  Police said there spotting was a bomb?  Am I hearing this correctly?

I posted this earlier but don't know if any of you went to the link.  The deputies said a bomb was found near the sight of where the kids found the spot months ago.  I think that's interesting and wonder if anything was ever said later about this.  A bomb found near the site +near an elementary school?  I wonder why it was so close to the site and who put it there?

I love how the LE sound so blase about it--"oh, yeah, that's just the bomb...been there for ages."  LOL!

There is something way wrong with that story, something very fishy going on with this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Hat, you haven't lost your touch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:45:44 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)

Or Kaylee's bed spread. My daughter has the same one and it does have ruffles on it. That poor angel my heart breaks for her.
Mindy, where did you purchase your daughters set if you do not mind me asking?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: nikkibnurse on December 12, 2008, 04:46:03 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Hat, you haven't lost your touch!

aint that the truth!! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 04:46:14 PM
If you go to document Part 15, page 34 you will see the Report Routing and Affadavit form of the 5 statements that were given on 9/12/08 about the area off Suburban Dr. It was scanned after the reports and one for evidence of photo from Ricardo Morales that has something to do with chloroform.
It has Melich, Yuri printed on top right and Corporal Tittle signed it. It has marked as referred to ...sex crimes.

Maybe someone can copy it here..I was having trouble.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 04:46:24 PM
News Junkie -
I did a little reading over there...in one thread it was stated that the lady who took the trash bag kept it and was told how to preserve it.  So, it is my understanding that she does still have the trash bag.
THANK YOU - that bags might be from same batch!!!   WHOO HOO   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

You're very welcome.  I do hope they have found the same trash bags in the A's home and/or they compare the taken one with the one Caylee was in (so sad), and can make a match.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: CasuallyCool on December 12, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

Whiz at finding things!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
Maybe I am touchy, but where in the heck did the murter thing come from?   Sorry, I drank the kool-aid - yes, I was taken - I was too busy to research or inform myself - so yes, I trusted and I do not nor ever will regret being the person I am - who looks for the best first, who trust in spite of reasons not to, for being authentic.  the "her"  I have no idea the implication and can we save the digs for casey?  Felt a pattern here for sometime - please, respect me and i will do the same.

What in the heck are you talking about?????  I said Murter because WS and Murts site are the 2 sites that are frequented the most and mentioned on here.  I did not know you were a reader at Murts, nor was that a stab at you.  I do not see anyone being rude to you, other than you thinking we ignored you.
My email is a_news_junkie@yahoo.com if you wish to continue - otherwise, I will assume this is just that old end of the cage mess and log out.  Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:47:45 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.
Now thats funny!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 12, 2008, 04:48:41 PM
Thing is, if it turns out that the bedding set was replaced (and that they can verify this by the receipt), then I'm wondering...  Cindy claims that Casey and Caylee did stay the night, the night of the 15th... (after the argument, I would guess- which I find odd, because I would think Casey would have wanted to get the hell out of there at that point).   Maybe Caylee died in her/their room that night..  Casey was so pissed after that argument, and I'm willing to bet that Caylee was witness to (or at least heard) everything that had happened.  So Casey wanted to cut all ties to her mother- including Caylee, who (by all accounts) was more attached Cindy, than to Casey.  You don't duct tape a person for any other reason than to either suffocate them or to keep them quiet.. and why exactly would Casey want to keep Caylee quiet?


This makes the most sense so far to me.  TY anothermonkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:48:55 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

Whiz at finding things!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Casually I think you may have found your partner in crime funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: rmcalo on December 12, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

Hi Hat. I agree, I think she feels ALOT of guilt, and even responsable to a degree. She really does not want to believe KC could harm Caylee let alone kill her. I really think she and G are going to have a really hard time as the reality slowly sinks in. I just don't think it is going to sink in quickly, I think they will still stand by her because they don't want to believe she did this to Caylee.

I also have a theory about Cindy that paints her behavior in a less damning light: I think she, out of everyone in that household, looked at Caylee like a second chance in her life. I'm just basing this on the difficulties her mother Shirley reports in her e-mails about Cindy, e-mails about how her husband and daughter pretty much made her life hell, took her for all she had, bled her financially dry, and lied to her all the time. Her mother even mentions Cindy being sort of depressed and suicidal, even before this all went down with Caylee. I feel that Caylee was the one person in Cindy's life that gave her pure happiness and joy. And I think the possibility that Caylee was gone forever caused her to just crack completely. I'll bet she looked at Caylee like the daughter she never had, because her own daughter was such a sociopath. I am not letting Cindy off the hook for her behavior; I'm just saying I think she had some sort of a mental breakdown when Casey confirmed that Caylee was "missing." You can tell from her brother's and mother's e-mails to her (and also what others have said) that she changed completely when this all went down and was known as a "nice person" before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:52:13 PM
See everyone in #73!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 04:52:35 PM
Alright so still PMing with that girl. I had posted on the board that I thought Lee helped Casey.  She had PMed me before telling me she appreicated the fact that I PMed her first. I told her it was no problem and that I was curious to what she knew.  This is the PM exchange so far:


I know what everyone else knows, as far as police info and such, but for the record, there is nothing wrong or fishy about her brother at all.

((edit- please don't post PM's they are considered PRIVATE thus the name "private message" - if this person wanted this stuff posted in an open forum they would post it))

Just wanted to post that I've "spoken" with a friend of Lee's named Murph on another forum.  This person was supposedly a close friend of Lee's and was being very rude to any posters who thought Lee was suspicious.  I am thinking that Lee may have a few "friends" on the internet denying rumors...just a thought.  Of course Lee's friends would want to defend him, though.  my question for them is...what makes you so anxious to defend Lee that you have to post on a blog or forum to do it?  why act as Lee's spokesperson?  The fact that friends of Lee's are supposedly out there defending him seems really fishy to me.  I'm sure Lee may NOT have spoken to friends about any incest that may have occured.  I mean, why would Lee tell them? ya know?

wonder if  people are "posing" as Anthony family/friends on here to get attention... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 12, 2008, 04:54:15 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Hat, you haven't lost your touch!

aint that the truth!! LOL


LOL.... good post as usual Hat! So very good to see you here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: 3bboysmom on December 12, 2008, 04:54:40 PM
See everyone in #73!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm ready to go - hangin' on for the ride!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on December 12, 2008, 04:55:08 PM
I know that we go through trash bags quickly at our house so I bought some big contractor bags when my son moved out and had a lot of garbage.  I have had that bag for probably 6-7 months and still have a lot left in the box.  They don't have ties on them so you have to tie a knot in the top or just leave it open.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:55:35 PM
alright, what the heck..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Anna on December 12, 2008, 04:55:45 PM
Cindy has seemed pretty desperate to deflect guilt away from daughter. I think she feels guilt for driving Casey from her house - feels she shares guilt for what happened. Pretty thin theory I admit. It's just that the pathology on that Cindy never looked like just a mom protecting her daughter. Got to hand it (yikes) to that utility worker guy - he is a whiz at finding things. Take him to Aruba and give him a few sweet teas.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Hat, you haven't lost your touch!

aint that the truth!! LOL


LOL.... good post as usual Hat! So very good to see you here!


Agree!  Wonderful to see Hat after all this time.


.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 12, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
I know that we go through trash bags quickly at our house so I bought some big contractor bags when my son moved out and had a lot of garbage.  I have had that bag for probably 6-7 months and still have a lot left in the box.  They don't have ties on them so you have to tie a knot in the top or just leave it open.

Wonder if it matches to the one in her car trunk?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:56:30 PM
See everyone in #73!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm ready to go - hangin' on for the ride!!!

OK, ready, lets go.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Dolce on December 12, 2008, 04:56:32 PM
alright, what the heck..
I second that!  Gotta run to pick up my baby bro. BBL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: mindyb on December 12, 2008, 04:56:35 PM
looks like a ruffled pillow to me ...

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/pillow.jpg)

Or Kaylee's bed spread. My daughter has the same one and it does have ruffles on it. That poor angel my heart breaks for her.
Mindy, where did you purchase your daughters set if you do not mind me asking?


It was purchased at babies r us about 3 years ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: OriginalKat on December 12, 2008, 04:56:41 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash2.jpg)

Another picture of same trash bag.
Those kind of trash bags are strong, but I don't believe a bag like that would be sturdy enough to hold a child's body weighing about 35 lbs. I have black trash bags that are much bigger and sturdier, maybe the Anthony's had some of those in their garage or shed.
Maybe it was a black plastic contractors bad. Those are made to cleanup heavy things so they don't poke through. If George had been laying new pavers he could have some of those.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: anothermonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:56:42 PM
whose lockin' up, mamma?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7
Post by: ShariVari on December 12, 2008, 04:57:34 PM
where's the new cage???? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 12, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
OMG We're in the twilight zone! ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/MODLOCK1.gif)

Please move to Caylee #73

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72
Post by: Lovinlife on December 12, 2008, 04:59:15 PM
My first cage flip & it doesn't even happen!