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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 13, 2008, 12:50:06 PM
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x166/Nut44x4/CAYLEE/nitecaylee.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 13, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
BRINGING KLAAS's POST OVER >>>>>>>>>>>>>

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/13/caylee-anthony-found-plastic-bag-skeletal-remains-duct-tape-items-of-interest-anthony-home-searched-part-1/

Caylee Anthony Found: Plastic Bag, Skeletal Remains, Duct Tape, Items of Interest, Anthony Home Searched, Part 1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 13, 2008, 07:53:49 PM
 ::MonkeyCool:: Clean cage. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 13, 2008, 07:56:51 PM
Nothing to step on (or avoid)... yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 13, 2008, 07:58:14 PM

I am glad the new atty is there b/c just like two days ago my mom and I were talking and we were both starting to worry about the possibility of a new trial (after her conviction) due to ineffective counsel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 07:58:40 PM
Yay got here just in time to jump into the new cage....The Anthony's are gonna be on MSNBC..in just a minute gonna watch and see what they have to say!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
well, I think the cage needs a decoration and then i'm off to watch the tube. Y'all can yell at me another day for dirtying the cage up with these two mugs:

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/visitlaugh.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 13, 2008, 08:00:39 PM
With regard to Lee and George as possible molesters, and/or possible fathers of Caylee..

I think George acts more sad then he does guilty... if he feels any guilt, I really do think a lot of it stems from being a bad father... I mean, it sure makes him look like a bad father, that his own flesh and blood (that he helped to raise) has become a child killer.  Lee acts more guilty than he does sad.. he should be sad that his niece is missing, that his parents are suffering, that his sister is causing all of this pain. Instead, he acts like a total jacka$$, hides who knows where, refuses to give up his DNA, etc...  now just going by actions, I would say that Lee seems more likely to be a molester/father of sister's baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: GramaMonkey on December 13, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 13, 2008, 08:02:37 PM
night monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: GramaMonkey on December 13, 2008, 08:05:10 PM
Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Brandi on December 13, 2008, 08:05:38 PM
night monkeys!!

Good night.

I am heading out too.

Have a great evening, everyone!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 08:05:50 PM
I could be wrong but George acts the most like a grieving grandparent and Lee acts like well, a total jackass, like Another just said.

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/leecheese.jpg)

Can anyone say NOT A NATURAL reaction?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 08:06:15 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

Thanks Grama!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
Lawyers for Caylee’s Mother Stand by Her Story in Planning Defense Strategy
Posted on December 13, 2008

For months, Florida mother Casey Anthony, 22, has blamed her daughter Caylee’s disappearance on a baby sitter, and Anthony’s lawyers apparently are sticking with that story in planning her criminal defense — even though they expect police to confirm that skeletal remains found Thursday are those of girl.“If this is Caylee Anthony, that doesn’t mean Casey Anthony did anything to that child,” Todd Black, a spokesman for Anthony’s lead attorney, told FOXNews.com on Saturday. “That doesn’t determine who or what caused the child’s death.”FoxNews.com   Saturday, December 13, 2008
Anthony is in jail accused of murdering Caylee, but Black said Anthony stands by her claim that she dropped off her 2-year-old daughter with a sitter in June and never saw her again. That won’t change if it turns out the skull and bones belong to Caylee.

“Casey Anthony handed her daughter off to a woman in a park who was with another woman in a car,” Black told FOXNews.com. “Her position and the position of the law firm has been that she handed her child off. … It would be difficult for a prosecution to absolutely tell a jury that Ms. Anthony is the one who injured the child.”

It will be at least a week or two before forensic tests confirm whether the skeletal remains that a utility worker found in the woods Thursday are the girl’s, but police haven’t stopped looking for clues.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/lawyers-for-caylees-mother-stand-by-her-story-in-planning-defense-strategy/ (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/lawyers-for-caylees-mother-stand-by-her-story-in-planning-defense-strategy/)

What the heck is this? I thought that Black was no longer on the team, now he is back being an idiot again still.
I have been travelling alot, and not always able to catch up, so when did this happen??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 08:08:15 PM
night monkeys!!

sleep tight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: txlisa on December 13, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
well, I think the cage needs a decoration and then i'm off to watch the tube. Y'all can yell at me another day for dirtying the cage up with these two mugs:

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/visitlaugh.jpg)

In those videos you see that her eyes are evil and clownish looking. ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:11:09 PM
OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE ON A ROLL TONIGHT!!!!

I have been ROFLMAO at some of your posts: KUDOS TO GOODANMAD AND RED!!

Someone Please bring the petrified turd over to this thread, I want to refer back to it everytime Baez's name comes up!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 13, 2008, 08:13:07 PM
Had not seen this picture before

(http://i38.tinypic.com/34pgwt1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 08:13:15 PM
ok, one more post and then off ...

I should hope it will be painfully obvious to jurors and anyone with two brain cells to rub together that:

1. Casey killed Caylee
2. Casey placed Caylee's body in her car trunk
3. Casey placed Caylee's body in the wooded area close to her home
4. Casey should live the rest of her life in prison

None of this, "oh, well, when was the body put there" chit. They cannot explain it all away. No way. No how. Not gonna happen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SS on December 13, 2008, 08:13:37 PM
Who is Shango?

Shango and Simian were anonymous code talkers from Aruba, who started posting early in the Natalee investigation.  They posted cryptic messages that described what had happened that fateful night.  Many of us have spent months and years doing research to decipher these codes.  We feel that we have uncovered most of what the cryptic messages were telling us.  We have learned the identity of Simian and we have very strong suspicions about the identity of Shango.  There is an entire section of Natalee Holloway here on SM that is designated for Shango and Simian.  It's very interesting and shocking to read.  We have uncovered the corrupt underbelly of Aruba and many of the players involved.  Shango is not Joran's lawyer.

Red is the owner and founder of Scared Monkeys.  He is an advocate for missing persons and an ally of Tim Miller and TES.  Remember, when Red says something, pay close attention because it is often something very important that he is trying to share with us.  He is not Cindy's brother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:15:33 PM
ok, one more post and then off ...

I should hope it will be painfully obvious to jurors and anyone with two brain cells to rub together that:

1. Casey killed Caylee
2. Casey placed Caylee's body in her car trunk
3. Casey placed Caylee's body in the wooded area close to her home
4. Casey should live the rest of her life in prison

None of this, "oh, well, when was the body put there" chit. They cannot explain it all away. No way. No how. Not gonna happen.


GOODANMAD, See my last post before you leave!!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 08:16:06 PM
Dang Monken, you little cutie. I went back to find the turd quote and Red replied to my post. Wow. I have made it as a monkey. You like me. You guys really like me. (wipes at tears).

Quote
Quote from: goodnmad on Today at 06:43:09 PM
Idea for next front page SM post (tongue in cheek of course)

Petrified turd replaces Baez on defense team: Sources say prosecution worried about the increase in brain power

   
Red said:
There are many times I want to do a completely sarcastic post on this case because frankly some of the individuals in it make my blood boil. I just figure that due to the nature of the case it make be inappropriate. I guess I will have to have flashing red lights that point ... THIS IS SARCASM!!!

Something along the lines like ... Baez files motion with judge that prosecution cannot use Caylee evidence found at crime scene ... Baez states it will prejudice the jury   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:19:00 PM
Janet, I loved your post: Jesus, sweetest name I know!  I Thank You for it!!!!   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 08:19:43 PM

I am glad the new atty is there b/c just like two days ago my mom and I were talking and we were both starting to worry about the possibility of a new trial (after her conviction) due to ineffective counsel.

Lucky for us and luckily for Jose Baez..he had no say in the situation...She could have never gone to trial without another member on her defense team (or her main attorney). Its as if Jose Baez was clueless. As if he didnt pass the bar, he knew that he could never represent her correctly in a trial..he has no experience in a major first degree murder trial. It would have definitely been a mistrial had Jose had the experience to represent her on his own. He sucks at representing himself...and they say a lawyer who defends himself, has a fool for a client..hehe. good quote!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 08:20:36 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains
Defense Says Remains Similar In Size, Hair Color To Caylee

POSTED: 6:07 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 6:53 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, spoke to the media on Saturday after remains were found within blocks of the Anthony family home.

Baez said Anthony was "not doing well at all" after hearing about the remains that were discovered in a wooded area of Orlando by a meter reader.


Baez, along with Casey's brother, Lee, showed up at the Anthony home Saturday afternoon.

He and his defense team traveled to the crime scene, where they investigated the area.

That came after FBI agents and the Orange County sheriff spent a third day in a row searching the same area where a child's remains were found.

The remains found near the Anthony home are similar in size and hair color to Caylee Anthony, a defense team attorney said on Friday.

Linda Kenney Baden said Casey Anthony’s lead attorney, Jose Baez, got that information from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office after the remains were discovered on Thursday less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Baez was told “the anthropological measurements on the child for her being Caylee Anthony, that the hair color was correct, and they were proceeding as if this were little Caylee,” Baden said during a hearing on Friday over access to evidence from the remains.

Prosecutors, however, said they have not made a tentative identification of the remains, which were discovered by a utility worker about 9:30 a.m Thursday. In his 911 call, the worker mentions finding a skull, which WESH 2 and NBC sources said showed evidence of duct tape on the mouth. (Audio: Listen to 911 Call)

Officials said on Saturday that it could be more than a week before conclusive DNA results are released, but investigators said they're almost positive it's Caylee.

"She's the only child of that age range that was reported missing," said Carlos Padilla, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The skull was the size and shape consistent with that of a young child, and of course it was close proximity to the residences."

Baden’s announcement in court was one of the latest twists in the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee, sometime before she reported the 2-year-old child missing in July.

Also Friday:

- Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said something at the crime scene where the remains were found could be linked to the Anthony house. Investigators removed bags of evidence from the home overnight, including three vacuum cleaners, pesticide containers and a small pillow.

- The FBI was sifting through buckets of dirt on Friday from the scene where the remains were found.

- Cindy and George Anthony returned to their east Orange County home Friday afternoon, but made no comment to the media. They left about 5:30 p.m. with their dogs, again without talking to reporters.

- Judge Stan Strickland denied a defense motion for access to the autopsy of the remains.

The remains were found about one-third of a mile from the Anthony's home on Hopespring Drive. Casey Anthony stayed at the home with Caylee before Caylee went missing. (View Map)

Beary, who appeared on "The Today Show" Friday morning to discuss the discovery, said Casey Anthony is on a psychological watch at the Orange County Jail and that he thinks the remains are Caylee's. (Watch Video)

"My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure. Just like we always have to, we are going to be waiting for facts," Beary said when Matt Lauer asked him if he believes the remains are Caylee’s.

During a news conference Thursday evening, Baez confirmed that Casey Anthony was upset when she found out about the remains and requested a sedative at the jail. Sources described Casey Anthony's reaction as an anxiety attack.

After a hearing Thursday morning, Casey Anthony's trial was pushed back until March.

Friday night, the Anthonys were not at their home because, their spokeswoman said, they're trying to get away from everything.

Just a few blocks away, crime scene technicians in the deeply wooded area worked late into the night.

Medical Examiner: Forensic Evidence Will Be Key

Forensic evidence will be the key in determining whether the remains are Caylee.

"With the remains allegedly or reportedly being found in a closed environment, in a bag, that would preserve much of the evidence," said Volusia County Medical Examiner Dr. Marie Herrmann.

Herrmann said that, if the remains found near the Anthony family home were in a sealed plastic bag -- despite weather and time -- there will be evidence to determine if the victim is indeed Caylee and likely how she died.

"The evidence of injury may reveal itself as cuts or areas of discoloration with bleeding, contusions," Herrmann said.

And secured out of the elements, there will likely be pieces of any other foreign materials in the bag -- including clothing and duct tape.

"Yes, duct tape is a good piece of evidence, as it can hold fibers, skin cells," Herrmann said. "It could potentially match to another roll. Duct tape can retain fingerprints, latent prints that can be obtained."

Experts will surely test for the presence of chloroform, Herrmann said, which has been significant in the investigation. The chemical can linger in remains and beyond.

"There may be some metabolites or some other changes that could be detected that could indicate that chloroform was used," Herrmann said.

Medical and criminal investigators will work together to solve the crime.


Hey Casey - guess the HI-5 was a bit premature  ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/117w5ua.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 13, 2008, 08:22:39 PM
ok, I am going to add Baez's law firm to my Christmas card list. And, yes, they are Christmas cards b/c I am celebrating Christmas and all that it means. (Sorry. I get sick of the "happy holidays" BS I endure at work.)

My Christmas card will include a nice message for Jose and all his little playmates at the law firm.

Petrified turd replaces Baez on defense team: Sources say prosecution worried about the increase in brain power

ok, luv you monkeys!!!! See you later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:24:28 PM
Dang Monken, you little cutie. I went back to find the turd quote and Red replied to my post. Wow. I have made it as a monkey. You like me. You guys really like me. (wipes at tears).

Quote
Quote from: goodnmad on Today at 06:43:09 PM
Idea for next front page SM post (tongue in cheek of course)

Petrified turd replaces Baez on defense team: Sources say prosecution worried about the increase in brain power

   
Red said:
There are many times I want to do a completely sarcastic post on this case because frankly some of the individuals in it make my blood boil. I just figure that due to the nature of the case it make be inappropriate. I guess I will have to have flashing red lights that point ... THIS IS SARCASM!!!

Something along the lines like ... Baez files motion with judge that prosecution cannot use Caylee evidence found at crime scene ... Baez states it will prejudice the jury   

I'm so glad you didn't miss Red's response!  ::MonkeyDance:: And no tongue in cheek necessary, don't be surprised if this makes it to the front page somehow!!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 08:24:30 PM
Oh yeah, now Casey can sing the pooped in her oatmeal blues instead of doing the high five with Lee.  Hmmmm,  wonder what's wrong with my eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on December 13, 2008, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on Today at 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on Today at 02:57:29 PM
I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Karma wrote:
IIRC Casey supposedly said Lee sexually abused her and George abused her.No mention of sexual abuse with George.[/color]





SS wrote:
Karma - do you happen to remember where this came from?

Karma wrote:
Hi SS
The Lee sexual abuse came from the last doc dump....something Casey told either Jesse or Tony.The George abuse came from the same sources I think,Jesse or Tony but no one said George sexually abused Casey.They said George abused her.....all of that supposedly came from Casey to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 08:25:57 PM
Who is Shango?

Shango and Simian were anonymous code talkers from Aruba, who started posting early in the Natalee investigation.  They posted cryptic messages that described what had happened that fateful night.  Many of us have spent months and years doing research to decipher these codes.  We feel that we have uncovered most of what the cryptic messages were telling us.  We have learned the identity of Simian and we have very strong suspicions about the identity of Shango.  There is an entire section of Natalee Holloway here on SM that is designated for Shango and Simian.  It's very interesting and shocking to read.  We have uncovered the corrupt underbelly of Aruba and many of the players involved.  Shango is not Joran's lawyer.

Red is the owner and founder of Scared Monkeys.  He is an advocate for missing persons and an ally of Tim Miller and TES.  Remember, when Red says something, pay close attention because it is often something very important that he is trying to share with us.  He is not Cindy's brother.


Uh yeah i'll take credit for that stupid question..haha..somebody said...." i think some of these monkeys dont know who RED is?? " and i retorted...JMO Is he CindYs BroThEr? HEs My HerO...BUT no ReD iS THe OwNeR. BiG diFfeReNcE. It wAsNT an InSuLt. I aCtUallY havE tRuE EmPaTHy FoR eVerYoNe OutsidE The HoPeSpRiNg DrIvE CiRcUS!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 08:26:20 PM
Yay got here just in time to jump into the new cage....The Anthony's are gonna be on MSNBC..in just a minute gonna watch and see what they have to say!

Grieving for 2 days, staying out of the media spotlight, not wanting to be disturbed while they grieve, etc. That certainly didn't last long!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 13, 2008, 08:26:29 PM
SS- Thanks for your post about Shango :)


Night monkeys.. gonna go watch It's A Wonderful Life  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:27:57 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains
Defense Says Remains Similar In Size, Hair Color To Caylee

POSTED: 6:07 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 6:53 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, spoke to the media on Saturday after remains were found within blocks of the Anthony family home.

Baez said Anthony was "not doing well at all" after hearing about the remains that were discovered in a wooded area of Orlando by a meter reader.


Baez, along with Casey's brother, Lee, showed up at the Anthony home Saturday afternoon.

He and his defense team traveled to the crime scene, where they investigated the area.

That came after FBI agents and the Orange County sheriff spent a third day in a row searching the same area where a child's remains were found.

The remains found near the Anthony home are similar in size and hair color to Caylee Anthony, a defense team attorney said on Friday.

Linda Kenney Baden said Casey Anthony’s lead attorney, Jose Baez, got that information from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office after the remains were discovered on Thursday less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Baez was told “the anthropological measurements on the child for her being Caylee Anthony, that the hair color was correct, and they were proceeding as if this were little Caylee,” Baden said during a hearing on Friday over access to evidence from the remains.

Prosecutors, however, said they have not made a tentative identification of the remains, which were discovered by a utility worker about 9:30 a.m Thursday. In his 911 call, the worker mentions finding a skull, which WESH 2 and NBC sources said showed evidence of duct tape on the mouth. (Audio: Listen to 911 Call)

Officials said on Saturday that it could be more than a week before conclusive DNA results are released, but investigators said they're almost positive it's Caylee.

"She's the only child of that age range that was reported missing," said Carlos Padilla, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The skull was the size and shape consistent with that of a young child, and of course it was close proximity to the residences."

Baden’s announcement in court was one of the latest twists in the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee, sometime before she reported the 2-year-old child missing in July.

Also Friday:

- Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said something at the crime scene where the remains were found could be linked to the Anthony house. Investigators removed bags of evidence from the home overnight, including three vacuum cleaners, pesticide containers and a small pillow.

- The FBI was sifting through buckets of dirt on Friday from the scene where the remains were found.

- Cindy and George Anthony returned to their east Orange County home Friday afternoon, but made no comment to the media. They left about 5:30 p.m. with their dogs, again without talking to reporters.

- Judge Stan Strickland denied a defense motion for access to the autopsy of the remains.

The remains were found about one-third of a mile from the Anthony's home on Hopespring Drive. Casey Anthony stayed at the home with Caylee before Caylee went missing. (View Map)

Beary, who appeared on "The Today Show" Friday morning to discuss the discovery, said Casey Anthony is on a psychological watch at the Orange County Jail and that he thinks the remains are Caylee's. (Watch Video)

"My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure. Just like we always have to, we are going to be waiting for facts," Beary said when Matt Lauer asked him if he believes the remains are Caylee’s.

During a news conference Thursday evening, Baez confirmed that Casey Anthony was upset when she found out about the remains and requested a sedative at the jail. Sources described Casey Anthony's reaction as an anxiety attack.

After a hearing Thursday morning, Casey Anthony's trial was pushed back until March.

Friday night, the Anthonys were not at their home because, their spokeswoman said, they're trying to get away from everything.

Just a few blocks away, crime scene technicians in the deeply wooded area worked late into the night.

Medical Examiner: Forensic Evidence Will Be Key

Forensic evidence will be the key in determining whether the remains are Caylee.

"With the remains allegedly or reportedly being found in a closed environment, in a bag, that would preserve much of the evidence," said Volusia County Medical Examiner Dr. Marie Herrmann.

Herrmann said that, if the remains found near the Anthony family home were in a sealed plastic bag -- despite weather and time -- there will be evidence to determine if the victim is indeed Caylee and likely how she died.

"The evidence of injury may reveal itself as cuts or areas of discoloration with bleeding, contusions," Herrmann said.

And secured out of the elements, there will likely be pieces of any other foreign materials in the bag -- including clothing and duct tape.

"Yes, duct tape is a good piece of evidence, as it can hold fibers, skin cells," Herrmann said. "It could potentially match to another roll. Duct tape can retain fingerprints, latent prints that can be obtained."

Experts will surely test for the presence of chloroform, Herrmann said, which has been significant in the investigation. The chemical can linger in remains and beyond.

"There may be some metabolites or some other changes that could be detected that could indicate that chloroform was used," Herrmann said.

Medical and criminal investigators will work together to solve the crime.


Hey Casey - guess the HI-5 was a bit premature  ::MonkeyNoNo::

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Yeah, she's not feeling very well because she's still trying to shit a brick the size of Florida right now!! There will be no sympathy for her, I hope she has a heart attack!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

Thanks Grama!

I can not open this link - never have trouble before!  I can't even find it on the web!  Can you repost it please!! or give me another link!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 13, 2008, 08:29:25 PM
ok, I am going to add Baez's law firm to my Christmas card list. And, yes, they are Christmas cards b/c I am celebrating Christmas and all that it means. (Sorry. I get sick of the "happy holidays" BS I endure at work.)

My Christmas card will include a nice message for Jose and all his little playmates at the law firm.

Petrified turd replaces Baez on defense team: Sources say prosecution worried about the increase in brain power

ok, luv you monkeys!!!! See you later.


ROFLMAO!!! BYE!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 08:29:58 PM
Oh yeah, now Casey can sing the pooped in her oatmeal blues instead of doing the high five with Lee.  Hmmmm,  wonder what's wrong with my eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

After her family is out of the spotlight..they are going to forget about her and let her rot in that solitary confinement cell...and her grits will be looking ppppprettttyyy goood. Trust me, jail food outside of commisary is torture in itself. She is going to suffer forever...She will never be in a cell with anyone else..like scott peterson....If she ever gets released into population....everyone gonna have themselves a casey bloody sandwich...gruesome...but relieving!1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 08:31:04 PM
SS- Thanks for your post about Shango :)


Night monkeys.. gonna go watch It's A Wonderful Life  ::MonkeyCool::

Good night.

I have a lot of reading to do!   you guys have been busy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 08:40:37 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains
Defense Says Remains Similar In Size, Hair Color To Caylee

POSTED: 6:07 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 6:53 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, spoke to the media on Saturday after remains were found within blocks of the Anthony family home.

Baez said Anthony was "not doing well at all" after hearing about the remains that were discovered in a wooded area of Orlando by a meter reader.


Baez, along with Casey's brother, Lee, showed up at the Anthony home Saturday afternoon.

He and his defense team traveled to the crime scene, where they investigated the area.

That came after FBI agents and the Orange County sheriff spent a third day in a row searching the same area where a child's remains were found.

The remains found near the Anthony home are similar in size and hair color to Caylee Anthony, a defense team attorney said on Friday.

Linda Kenney Baden said Casey Anthony’s lead attorney, Jose Baez, got that information from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office after the remains were discovered on Thursday less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Baez was told “the anthropological measurements on the child for her being Caylee Anthony, that the hair color was correct, and they were proceeding as if this were little Caylee,” Baden said during a hearing on Friday over access to evidence from the remains.

Prosecutors, however, said they have not made a tentative identification of the remains, which were discovered by a utility worker about 9:30 a.m Thursday. In his 911 call, the worker mentions finding a skull, which WESH 2 and NBC sources said showed evidence of duct tape on the mouth. (Audio: Listen to 911 Call)

Officials said on Saturday that it could be more than a week before conclusive DNA results are released, but investigators said they're almost positive it's Caylee.

"She's the only child of that age range that was reported missing," said Carlos Padilla, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The skull was the size and shape consistent with that of a young child, and of course it was close proximity to the residences."

Baden’s announcement in court was one of the latest twists in the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee, sometime before she reported the 2-year-old child missing in July.

Also Friday:

- Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said something at the crime scene where the remains were found could be linked to the Anthony house. Investigators removed bags of evidence from the home overnight, including three vacuum cleaners, pesticide containers and a small pillow.

- The FBI was sifting through buckets of dirt on Friday from the scene where the remains were found.

- Cindy and George Anthony returned to their east Orange County home Friday afternoon, but made no comment to the media. They left about 5:30 p.m. with their dogs, again without talking to reporters.

- Judge Stan Strickland denied a defense motion for access to the autopsy of the remains.

The remains were found about one-third of a mile from the Anthony's home on Hopespring Drive. Casey Anthony stayed at the home with Caylee before Caylee went missing. (View Map)

Beary, who appeared on "The Today Show" Friday morning to discuss the discovery, said Casey Anthony is on a psychological watch at the Orange County Jail and that he thinks the remains are Caylee's. (Watch Video)

"My gut says yes, but I have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure. Just like we always have to, we are going to be waiting for facts," Beary said when Matt Lauer asked him if he believes the remains are Caylee’s.

During a news conference Thursday evening, Baez confirmed that Casey Anthony was upset when she found out about the remains and requested a sedative at the jail. Sources described Casey Anthony's reaction as an anxiety attack.

After a hearing Thursday morning, Casey Anthony's trial was pushed back until March.

Friday night, the Anthonys were not at their home because, their spokeswoman said, they're trying to get away from everything.

Just a few blocks away, crime scene technicians in the deeply wooded area worked late into the night.

Medical Examiner: Forensic Evidence Will Be Key

Forensic evidence will be the key in determining whether the remains are Caylee.

"With the remains allegedly or reportedly being found in a closed environment, in a bag, that would preserve much of the evidence," said Volusia County Medical Examiner Dr. Marie Herrmann.

Herrmann said that, if the remains found near the Anthony family home were in a sealed plastic bag -- despite weather and time -- there will be evidence to determine if the victim is indeed Caylee and likely how she died.

"The evidence of injury may reveal itself as cuts or areas of discoloration with bleeding, contusions," Herrmann said.

And secured out of the elements, there will likely be pieces of any other foreign materials in the bag -- including clothing and duct tape.

"Yes, duct tape is a good piece of evidence, as it can hold fibers, skin cells," Herrmann said. "It could potentially match to another roll. Duct tape can retain fingerprints, latent prints that can be obtained."

Experts will surely test for the presence of chloroform, Herrmann said, which has been significant in the investigation. The chemical can linger in remains and beyond.

"There may be some metabolites or some other changes that could be detected that could indicate that chloroform was used," Herrmann said.

Medical and criminal investigators will work together to solve the crime.


Hey Casey - guess the HI-5 was a bit premature  ::MonkeyNoNo::

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Yeah, she's not feeling very well because she's still trying to shit a brick the size of Florida right now!! There will be no sympathy for her, I hope she has a heart attack!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::




This picture reminds me of the disgust i felt when i saw her walk out of her house with her Caylee shirt all twisted up to look tight and cute, and rolled up sleeves, crusafix, and colored bracelets..it was almost like an F-U to everyone..she has complete disregard for the body language experts, psychologists, that will all testify that these are directs signs of a sociopathic disassociated cold, and calculated MURDERER. It also makes me wonder...people like this love attention im wondering if she played a victim and attempted to slit her wrists....because she started wearing all these bangles, and got her "new look" shortly after that just consisted of longsleeved blouses...???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 08:42:06 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 13, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
I think it says a lot for the LE that there have been no leaks about what was found, either in the house or at the burial site.  There were lots of people involved and no leaks.  Baez can't spin this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 08:47:06 PM
Yay got here just in time to jump into the new cage....The Anthony's are gonna be on MSNBC..in just a minute gonna watch and see what they have to say!

Grieving for 2 days, staying out of the media spotlight, not wanting to be disturbed while they grieve, etc. That certainly didn't last long!
if i had a left nut i would bet that it they are going to cancel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SS on December 13, 2008, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on Today at 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on Today at 02:57:29 PM
I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Karma wrote:
IIRC Casey supposedly said Lee sexually abused her and George abused her.No mention of sexual abuse with George.[/color]





SS wrote:
Karma - do you happen to remember where this came from?

Karma wrote:
Hi SS
The Lee sexual abuse came from the last doc dump....something Casey told either Jesse or Tony.The George abuse came from the same sources I think,Jesse or Tony but no one said George sexually abused Casey.They said George abused her.....all of that supposedly came from Casey to them.




Thanks Karma.  I have suspected this from very early on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 08:51:06 PM
Let's talk about how Baez feels about his client now.......not personally, but as a client....... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
Let's talk about how Baez feels about his client now.......not personally, but as a client....... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 08:52:27 PM
Oops....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 08:52:56 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 08:54:40 PM
Let's talk about how Baez feels about his client now.......not personally, but as a client....... 

He is a defense attorney, it's his job to defend scum.  Even scum have the right to a defense in our justice system.  Too bad Caylee's rights were taken away from her.  So Baez will do his best to give Casey the best defense he can.  If that means getting her life in prison instead of death so be it.  He will continue to spin the kidnapping theory as long as he can. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 08:55:20 PM
I bet he feels just like my surgeon when I had my car wreck.  He said he wished he could walk away from me and never see me again because he felt he could not fix the problem.  And Baez probably feels that way or maybe he is challenged and loves it!!!  Or if he really had a relationship with her, maybe he feels forced to stay and represent her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 13, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::


::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: txlisa on December 13, 2008, 08:56:02 PM
Let's talk about how Baez feels about his client now.......not personally, but as a client....... 

I'm thinking he isn't looking at Casey as some sexy,young MILF anymore.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::
yep your right it was a rerun.....just like Caseys lies..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: txlisa on December 13, 2008, 08:58:32 PM
Let's talk about how Baez feels about his client now.......not personally, but as a client....... 

He is a defense attorney, it's his job to defend scum.  Even scum have the right to a defense in our justice system.  Too bad Caylee's rights were taken away from her.  So Baez will do his best to give Casey the best defense he can.  If that means getting her life in prison instead of death so be it.  He will continue to spin the kidnapping theory as long as he can. 

I wish this had happened during the 1800's in the lawless west.  Casey would have been swinging from a scaffold by now.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 08:58:43 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 13, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
I bet he feels just like my surgeon when I had my car wreck.  He said he wished he could walk away from me and never see me again because he felt he could not fix the problem.  And Baez probably feels that way or maybe he is challenged and loves it!!!  Or if he really had a relationship with her, maybe he feels forced to stay and represent her.

If he has any feelings, whether it is fear, personal feelings for his client, overwhelmed, any feeling he should step aside.  However, IMO this is a big power trip for him and he will not do what is necessarily in the best interests of his client.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:08:43 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::


Klaas,
Do you know if it is true Geraldo is hanging out with Jose Baez?  Did he actually spend the night at Baez' home as someone said?

I want a new program with new information but I sure am not going to waste time watching him promote the defense.  Nothing fair and balanced about me, I want Casey bashing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Red on December 13, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:09:23 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


Yes or even something else written on matching paper.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 13, 2008, 09:14:21 PM
I bet he feels just like my surgeon when I had my car wreck.  He said he wished he could walk away from me and never see me again because he felt he could not fix the problem.  And Baez probably feels that way or maybe he is challenged and loves it!!!  Or if he really had a relationship with her, maybe he feels forced to stay and represent her.

If he has any feelings, whether it is fear, personal feelings for his client, overwhelmed, any feeling he should step aside.  However, IMO this is a big power trip for him and he will not do what is necessarily in the best interests of his client.

IMO there was something that immediately lead them to the house.  It was not something that they had to think about, they saw it and they knew.  I think you have a good idea, the only reason I would lean away from this is that they have said that the finding was connected to the house. Even the ME said a connection to the house.  If it had been papers of Casey's I would think they would have said they found a connection to KC.  However it still could be papers, maybe with the Hopesprings address.

Good night all.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:14:52 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


Yes or even something else written on matching paper.

Yep.  Personally, I believe the duct tape will be Casey's downfall.  I think the duct tape will have her fingerprints on it and nobody elses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:16:11 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.

No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 13, 2008, 09:17:50 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:19:07 PM
ME and others did say the house.  Agree.  But that stick looks like molding to me.  I enlarged it and there is a notch routed out on the back side. 

Perhaps LE have noticed a piece of molding missing from some where in the Anthony house?

I hope the bag was just full of all sorts of clues and items to connect the crime to the perpetrator.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:19:30 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

Great idea Junkie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:19:53 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


Yes or even something else written on matching paper.

Yep.  Personally, I believe the duct tape will be Casey's downfall.  I think the duct tape will have her fingerprints on it and nobody elses.
I also think the duct tape could possibly have Casey's hair stuck to it, especially if she was like in a hurry and might have bitten  a small tear in it to make it where she could tear it, Ive seen people do this and their hair fall in the way and get stuck on it too and they dont even notice, and then there could be the dogs hair and even fivers from the rugs or furniture at the Anthonys house!!................also I believe they already have the roll that the trash bag came from, because I think Tony mentioned something about her taking bags from his house and Im sure if he did the deputy's confiscated the entire roll from him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 13, 2008, 09:24:59 PM
BOX: Defense-witness list
*Dr. Henry Lee: Made famous by the O.J. Simpson trial, he is a longtime criminalist based in Connecticut.
*Larry Kobilinsky: The professor of forensic science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice is a regular on CNN's Nancy Grace.
*Linda Kenney Baden: The criminal-defense attorney represented Phil Spector during his murder case, which ended in a mistrial.
*Dr. Werner Spitz: The forensic pathologist testified before Congress about the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
*Kathy Reichs: The forensic anthropologist is the inspiration for the TV show Bones and authored nearly a dozen mystery novels.
 
There's also a forensic entomologist -- a scientist who studies bugs -- from Nebraska, Tim Huntington.

Who is paying for the star-studded defense lineup?

"I don't think it's any concern of anyone who is paying for all this," Baez said after the hearing.

December 13, 2008
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:898162051&start=3


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:25:03 PM
Yes, as Monken says, that duct tape likely has big horse teeth marks on it as well as DNA from Casey.  Fingerprints, too.

But what in the world was she doing with duct tape on that child in the first place!  Seems just too odd and totally not accidental.  What was going on to require duct tape?

And I don't think Casey is very bright at all.  Just typical sociopath who thinks she is.  I don't think she was organized enough to try to stage something with the duct tape.

I hope LE will release list of items taken from Anthony house.  Maybe we can tell from that which way they are going.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:27:35 PM
BOX: Defense-witness list
*Dr. Henry Lee: Made famous by the O.J. Simpson trial, he is a longtime criminalist based in Connecticut.
*Larry Kobilinsky: The professor of forensic science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice is a regular on CNN's Nancy Grace.
*Linda Kenney Baden: The criminal-defense attorney represented Phil Spector during his murder case, which ended in a mistrial.
*Dr. Werner Spitz: The forensic pathologist testified before Congress about the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
*Kathy Reichs: The forensic anthropologist is the inspiration for the TV show Bones and authored nearly a dozen mystery novels.
 
There's also a forensic entomologist -- a scientist who studies bugs -- from Nebraska, Tim Huntington.

Who is paying for the star-studded defense lineup?

"I don't think it's any concern of anyone who is paying for all this," Baez said after the hearing.

December 13, 2008
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:898162051&start=3


They are planning to overwhelm the jury with so much information about DNA, etc. that the jury won't know what hit them just as in the Spector trial.  Well, they know that trick now and I am relieved to see the FBI playing a major part if not the main part in the processing of the scene and remains, etc.

I don't like that defense team.  Some are known for their dirty tricks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: monkeemama on December 13, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.
No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.

GREAT thought.. because wasn't it said that Tony had watched her put gas into her car on that same road/same area when it ran out of gas at one point?? Would explain why HE didn't help her do it - she didn't want him to get close becuase of the smell - and why she just may have quickly tossed it down in those woods there by the road, before he got there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:30:34 PM
Yes, as Monken says, that duct tape likely has big horse teeth marks on it as well as DNA from Casey.  Fingerprints, too.

But what in the world was she doing with duct tape on that child in the first place!  Seems just too odd and totally not accidental.  What was going on to require duct tape?

And I don't think Casey is very bright at all.  Just typical sociopath who thinks she is.  I don't think she was organized enough to try to stage something with the duct tape.

I hope LE will release list of items taken from Anthony house.  Maybe we can tell from that which way they are going.
I think she put the duct tape on the body after it was deceased when she came up with the ideal of a kidnapping, she figured the tape would look more like a kidnapping if it had tape over the mouth!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 13, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
Don't flame me, but the duct tape could have been an after thought...to make it look more like a kidnapping. I DON't think so.....but it is possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:33:37 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 09:34:38 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.

No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.

I have to wonder if maybe this time the running out of gas was just a ruse. I only say that because these were woods she was somewhat familiar with according to Kio, so maybe she thought it would be good to pretend to run out of gas there in case anyone saw her. She calls Tony, he picks her up walking in her neighborhood (couldn't have been too far from the house) he takes her to get the cans, but IIRC, doesn't follow her or anything after.   Now what day was that? And does someone remember exactly what happened after they get the cans........?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:34:46 PM
Don't flame me, but the duct tape could have been an after thought...to make it look more like a kidnapping. I DON't think so.....but it is possible.

Could be but would still have evidence of who put it on her. Right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:34:48 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Russ on December 13, 2008, 09:36:08 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.

From a forensic standpoint, they are looking for ways to argue on the time the body was in that location.  I think people will wonder, how can one tell if it has been there since the middle of June?  Beyond your infallible logic on why the body would NOT be place there by an alternate party, there are ways to tell just how long that body has been there and we can all be rest assured it has been there since the beginning or right thereafter.  TES searched the opposite side of Suburban drive and pulled out on 9-3-08 because of water.  This would be the date they would have to try and say the body was shuttled in from another location, and placed there afterwards.  Growth, vegetation, etc should be easy to prove the body being placed there prior to the TES search as just a start.  They would have to completely reinvent the color of the sky in a jury's world to take complete common sense away.


They, the defense has no alternative at this point but to carry on, and more power seems to join evil every day.  It does become worrisome, but I have faith in OCSO and a higher power.  I believe justice will prevail and all these wayward minds will manifest itself into an ego orgy that pines for attention at every curve of the camera and lure of a  microphone,  but each disconnected from the body of evil as a whole host.  The unsavory lust for fame, the greed of fortune, and the crave for a challenge brings these rodents and cockroaches out as if it were a still, dark night in Orlando.  They forgot that someone has already turned the light on and all they see is the crime of the century, their image in a mirror, and the sound and texture of their own name.

Piss on em all.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Kat_Gram on December 13, 2008, 09:36:23 PM
Koby and Kathy Reichs seem  ( to me ) out of place in this rogue's gallery of defense attorneys and " experts ". Do these ppl not realize how much respect ppl had for them which is now gone ? 
No matter which way they slice and dice and spin this at the heart of this is Caylee who did not die without suffering. This is why I have difficulties with Cindy and George and Lee. Their fictionalized account of events and the ease with which they lied and are trying anything in their power to get her off the hook.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 09:36:42 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::


::MonkeyLaugh::

Good one Nut! I take it back about the 2 days of grieving, etc. Even the Anthonys are not responsible for the re-run trash on weekend MSNBC. Not that I wouldn't like to blame them for that along with all the things they deserve to be blamed for.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 09:36:43 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.

No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.

I have to wonder if maybe this time the running out of gas was just a ruse. I only say that because these were woods she was somewhat familiar with according to Kio, so maybe she thought it would be good to pretend to run out of gas there in case anyone saw her. She calls Tony, he picks her up walking in her neighborhood (couldn't have been too far from the house) he takes her to get the cans, but IIRC, doesn't follow her or anything after.   Now what day was that? And does someone remember exactly what happened after they get the cans........?

I don't know the date but it wouldn't surprise me if she wasn't scoping out places to dispose of the body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:36:50 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::

Oh Klaas - yours and my favorite!  Hope brother Craig is there  too!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:36:51 PM
Someone posted this thought on another site:

Some have suggested Caylee was put in one of those vacuum seal closet bags




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 09:37:45 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I heard that report too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 13, 2008, 09:38:08 PM
And the Anthonys now have to face their demons.  The day will come soon when the phone will ring and the coroner will explain gently that he has completed his examination of the body, and will they please come and claim it.  Another day will come when someone will knock on the door, perhaps with summons to come to court and perhaps testify about their own child. And the long days of photos and science theories of the tiny child they watched being born will come to pass.  A jury of Caseys peers will sit in judgement of thier youngest child, and maybe they will be told after the gavel drops for the final time, you may say goodbye to Casey, please do not touch her or hug her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:38:47 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


Yes or even something else written on matching paper.

Yep.  Personally, I believe the duct tape will be Casey's downfall.  I think the duct tape will have her fingerprints on it and nobody elses.

I wonder if the Anthony's were communicating by notes, fearing the house was bugged!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Russ on December 13, 2008, 09:39:00 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Isn't the school farther down on the other side from the Anthony's street on Suburban.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 13, 2008, 09:39:22 PM
Who is Shango?

Shango and Simian were anonymous code talkers from Aruba, who started posting early in the Natalee investigation.  They posted cryptic messages that described what had happened that fateful night.  Many of us have spent months and years doing research to decipher these codes.  We feel that we have uncovered most of what the cryptic messages were telling us.  We have learned the identity of Simian and we have very strong suspicions about the identity of Shango.  There is an entire section of Natalee Holloway here on SM that is designated for Shango and Simian.  It's very interesting and shocking to read.  We have uncovered the corrupt underbelly of Aruba and many of the players involved.  Shango is not Joran's lawyer.

Red is the owner and founder of Scared Monkeys.  He is an advocate for missing persons and an ally of Tim Miller and TES.  Remember, when Red says something, pay close attention because it is often something very important that he is trying to share with us.  He is not Cindy's brother.
Thank you SS. I have seen the Shango/Simian thread, but it confused me so much. Are they good code talkers or Vandersloot talkers?

What I have read from Red is awesome. Wish they could clone him. I would marry the clone. JK Mrs Red.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:40:05 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::

Oh Klaas - yours and my favorite!  Hope brother Craig is there  too!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

He drives me nuts but he's the only one doing a current show tonight (other than local news)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 09:40:05 PM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Blue Moon on December 13, 2008, 09:40:07 PM
Wonder what the odds are that Caylee's clothes were in the car along with KC's pants and Cindy took them all in and washed them and then put Caylee's clothes back in the closet?  Would Cindy tell the cops she washed Caylee's clothes along with KC's?  I would think not. Maybe a sock was found in the bag? What ever it was they found it involves Cindy and the cleanup she did before the confiscated the vehicle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:40:27 PM
Someone posted this thought on another site:

Some have suggested Caylee was put in one of those vacuum seal closet bags



Klaas, put in a vacuum bag before it was put in the one that it was found in?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
Yes, as Monken says, that duct tape likely has big horse teeth marks on it as well as DNA from Casey.  Fingerprints, too.

But what in the world was she doing with duct tape on that child in the first place!  Seems just too odd and totally not accidental.  What was going on to require duct tape?

And I don't think Casey is very bright at all.  Just typical sociopath who thinks she is.  I don't think she was organized enough to try to stage something with the duct tape.

I hope LE will release list of items taken from Anthony house.  Maybe we can tell from that which way they are going.
I think she put the duct tape on the body after it was deceased when she came up with the ideal of a kidnapping, she figured the tape would look more like a kidnapping if it had tape over the mouth!!

That is what I think too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 09:40:56 PM
I'd like to know what Mallory was doing at the A's house.  She sure chose an odd time to feed the dogs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:41:27 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 13, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....

Ah good thinking HH.  Could have been some scribblings like that.


I could almost swear that i think i have the answer. Have you guys heard about that guy that was a fling of casey's and he called her the morning of the 16th to ask her if it was her he had seen running down HER street towards her house early that morning, i dont know from which location she was running....but im assuming she was coming through the main entrance.....i think she had already stashed the body. And returned the morning of July 16th after ((the morning after the 911 call))  went to the dump site, tore a hole in the bag, or used an existant hole, and stuffed her list from zanny the nanny that she wrote while in her room...she slept in her room the first night i believe, and everynight after that cindy claimed casey was scared of the bedroom and slept in her room on a mattress....it makes a lot of sense to me, its so close to her house. she is known for exercising, and you know she steps all over her parents, they didnt know any procedure yet to keep her in the house...so she went for a run and took her "note" from zanny with her.. ::MonkeyWaa::im starting to try to think like casey....ne pas bien


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Deenie on December 13, 2008, 09:42:31 PM
Good Evening Monkey's

I was in the cage from Noon till about 2:3O am last nite and this is my First time back - I tried to read what was in the last cage ..within the later last posts.

I find that I am too exhausted to read due to My Heart hurts so much .. Not that Caylee was to be found alive. We all knew that she was no longer among us.

The findings of Caylee,  that have been introduced via media and such just tears at me so and I know I am not alone.  I did leave the cage last night and maybe slept 3 hours and started my day today at 6 am. I think that this is just a Human Travesty of all accord that a child be treated in such a way.

That a precious Caylee be tossed like she was Nothing and then to have what was done to her on top of her own little self.

I find the Ants " Parents" very viable to be charged within all that has been said and re-stated and re-stated by their own accountability. They have Never Once ever STOOD up and Cried for Caylee .. NOT Once. They have only created speculative words, against their own words... re writing everything that they willfully know is on video.

Casey in my thoughts needs to be sentenced and I am going to leave it up to the Inmates of Orange County Correctional facility to give her ..her sentence. I truly do not believe that the courts will prevail for Caylee.  All that is needed is for Casey to be put into general population within the Orange County Prison System. Correctional system.

I think that the Media has taken precedence of this Case and its Not been about Caylee for some time.

I am sure ~The Ant's have so many legal papers in front of them for Profit of Books, Movies, exclusives ... they will be busy with which one to PICK for their Retirement for the next 3 months or so .... 

Who will provide a Funeral for Caylee ? 
Well we have Larry King and things to do ... YOU Know ...

Does Anyone within the ANT'S  Recall Her" Caylee Marie Anthony"  within this Circus ?


I am sure her Papa Great Grandpa Does .. You are My Sun Shine Papa 

Casey's fate will be found among her own cell mates. Just as Jeffrey Dahmer.

The Longer Casey has Freedom of Speech and Self Containment - the Bigger the Payroll gets within Media ... She is not to be another " Charlie Manson" ... please.
IF Casey is to be kept under " supervision" or in " Solitary" - I wish for the People of Florida to protest/sue what ever it takes to get her to be put into General Population.

For Caylee the little tiny Baby who Had a Heart of Gold and Was So healthy and Precious - I stand for Her ...first and foremost.

She needs Justice for her little Soul to Be at Peace.  :smt049







 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Isn't the school farther down on the other side from the Anthony's street on Suburban.

Caylee wasn't found "behind the school" though.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 09:43:16 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie
That's a wonderful idea, I have a small tree up, but there is always room for one more special ornament.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:43:30 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::

Oh Klaas - yours and my favorite!  Hope brother Craig is there  too!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

He drives me nuts but he's the only one doing a current show tonight (other than local news)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: alwayz-wondering on December 13, 2008, 09:44:21 PM
Ive been away for a couple of days and I am not even close to caught up  ::MonkeyEek::

What I cant get out of my mind is that precious little Caylee had duct tape on her mouth. What that says to me is that if it was an accident, KC did not even try to revive her - how could you if her mouth is still taped shut???  And if it wasnt an accident, well I still cant even go there. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 09:44:43 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::
I'll be interested to see what new info there may be.. I am just disgusted with how close Geraldo and JB seem to have become. Earlier in a live report on FNC, Geraldo was annoyed that LE wouldn't allow JB and his team of merry smoke screen experts examine the crime scene and then Dr Spitz, who used to be very respected until the PS debacle, verbalized how indignant he was that they wouldn't allow him the professional courtesy to observe the autopsy I am glad LE is sticking to their guns.
I have become bery jaded with these pay to play ME's who spent a lifetime building reps only to sell themselves and end up looking assinine on the stand for the defense..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:44:51 PM
Wonder what the odds are that Caylee's clothes were in the car along with KC's pants and Cindy took them all in and washed them and then put Caylee's clothes back in the closet?  Would Cindy tell the cops she washed Caylee's clothes along with KC's?  I would think not. Maybe a sock was found in the bag? What ever it was they found it involves Cindy and the cleanup she did before the confiscated the vehicle.
I also wonder if maybe casey had some other clothes in the trunk and decomp leaked on them and she put them in the bag too.......they said clothes were in the bag, they didnt say they were childrens clothes, so it makes me think maybe they could have been some that Casey either had in the trunk or had on when she carried the body and it might have leaked on them,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:45:19 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Isn't the school farther down on the other side from the Anthony's street on Suburban.

Caylee wasn't found "behind the school" though.



Close enough, the poor kids had to go through the crime scene tape to leave school!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 09:45:31 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Tim Miller was on NG the night remains were found.

GRACE: Joining me right now, also there at the location where the remains were discovered, is Tim Miller. He is the director of Texas Equusearch. He has searched exhaustively for little Caylee. He says the sources -- his sources say this is little Caylee.

Tim, your workers, volunteers, everybody has been in and around this area, but isn`t it true that at the time the search was going down, Hurricane Faye had come through and there was extensive flooding?

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Nancy, if you recall -- and I got a lot of criticism for calling the search off the first time, but we actually lost a four-wheeler back in this same exact area that one of the volunteers was on the four-wheeler and water went totally over it. And the next day is when I called the search off, and it`s the best choice I ever made because if you recall back then, I said, You know what? If this little girl is under the water and a horse steps on her or a four-wheeler goes over or even a person steps on her just thinking it`s some type of debris underneath the water, then we`ve jeopardized any future search efforts.

And then when we came back the second time, this water where she was found -- and I actually went right back to the scene with investigators a couple of hours ago. But this water was still high when we came back the second time. And a neighbor actually said it was about a week-and-a-half ago or two weeks at the most when the water receded enough that you could see anything there.

So this is an area that we tried to search. Weather conditions just would not allow it. And I will never, ever regret calling the search off at that time because we could have done far more damage than good if we had...

GRACE: Tim, I remember that very night -- I remember talking to you about that night on the show, asking you why you pulled out. And you made it very clear that you were so afraid that in all the water -- it was feet deep -- that you were afraid if Caylee`s remains were there, they would be ruined or scattered and would never be found. And boy, were you right, Tim Miller. You never made a better call in your life.

MILLER: Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:47:27 PM
I'd like to know what Mallory was doing at the A's house.  She sure chose an odd time to feed the dogs.

Honestly, I am just glad someone cared about he dogs!!  I am a posting fool - need my fix!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
When I think of the duct tape, I don't think of abductors but rather Casey just trying to keep Caylee quiet.  Most seem to think this more likely to be associated with kidnapping, however.  Heard too many stories about evil school teachers doing this to kids I guess.

But fortunately, a better material for retaining evidence could not have been chosen so for whatever reason it was done, it is just about sure to produce at least some information about who put it there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 13, 2008, 09:49:12 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie




What a beautiful thought and yes I will hang an ornament for Caylee on my tree!
Thank you Junkie  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Tim Miller was on NG the night remains were found.

GRACE: Joining me right now, also there at the location where the remains were discovered, is Tim Miller. He is the director of Texas Equusearch. He has searched exhaustively for little Caylee. He says the sources -- his sources say this is little Caylee.

Tim, your workers, volunteers, everybody has been in and around this area, but isn`t it true that at the time the search was going down, Hurricane Faye had come through and there was extensive flooding?

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Nancy, if you recall -- and I got a lot of criticism for calling the search off the first time, but we actually lost a four-wheeler back in this same exact area that one of the volunteers was on the four-wheeler and water went totally over it. And the next day is when I called the search off, and it`s the best choice I ever made because if you recall back then, I said, You know what? If this little girl is under the water and a horse steps on her or a four-wheeler goes over or even a person steps on her just thinking it`s some type of debris underneath the water, then we`ve jeopardized any future search efforts.

And then when we came back the second time, this water where she was found -- and I actually went right back to the scene with investigators a couple of hours ago. But this water was still high when we came back the second time. And a neighbor actually said it was about a week-and-a-half ago or two weeks at the most when the water receded enough that you could see anything there.

So this is an area that we tried to search. Weather conditions just would not allow it. And I will never, ever regret calling the search off at that time because we could have done far more damage than good if we had...

GRACE: Tim, I remember that very night -- I remember talking to you about that night on the show, asking you why you pulled out. And you made it very clear that you were so afraid that in all the water -- it was feet deep -- that you were afraid if Caylee`s remains were there, they would be ruined or scattered and would never be found. And boy, were you right, Tim Miller. You never made a better call in your life.

MILLER: Thank you.


IIRC, Tim came after Tropical Storm Fay - which hit about 8/19 - 8/20 in that area!  The area was searched by LE prior to the storm!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 09:49:56 PM
Someone posted this thought on another site:

Some have suggested Caylee was put in one of those vacuum seal closet bags





now THAT is sick...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
When I think of the duct tape, I don't think of abductors but rather Casey just trying to keep Caylee quiet.  Most seem to think this more likely to be associated with kidnapping, however.  Heard too many stories about evil school teachers doing this to kids I guess.

But fortunately, a better material for retaining evidence could not have been chosen so for whatever reason it was done, it is just about sure to produce at least some information about who put it there.
Yes thats the best thing they could have found as far as holding the fingerprints and fibers......Casey didnt pay attention when she watched all those CSI shows did she, but then she was prolly texting when that part was shown. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 09:51:22 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::
I'll be interested to see what new info there may be.. I am just disgusted with how close Geraldo and JB seem to have become. Earlier in a live report on FNC, Geraldo was annoyed that LE wouldn't allow JB and his team of merry smoke screen experts examine the crime scene and then Dr Spitz, who used to be very respected until the PS debacle, verbalized how indignant he was that they wouldn't allow him the professional courtesy to observe the autopsy I am glad LE is sticking to their guns.
I have become bery jaded with these pay to play ME's who spent a lifetime building reps only to sell themselves and end up looking assinine on the stand for the defense..

I think the defense gathered as a spectical to make a statement. We are trying to get in and we are experts but they won't let us. Of course not...they are building their case. It is a crime scene. The defense shouldn't go in the crime scene until investigators are done.

I think the bag was put there in June. There was plenty of water at the time to move it from it's original location I think. If Tim lost a four wheeler in the water then it was deep enough to move a bag to a different area than put.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 09:52:23 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 13, 2008, 09:52:39 PM
When I think of the duct tape, I don't think of abductors but rather Casey just trying to keep Caylee quiet.  Most seem to think this more likely to be associated with kidnapping, however.  Heard too many stories about evil school teachers doing this to kids I guess.

But fortunately, a better material for retaining evidence could not have been chosen so for whatever reason it was done, it is just about sure to produce at least some information about who put it there.

OMG I feel like a complete moron How could I forget....My SIL in 13 and her teacher duct taped her mouth shut twice!!!!!

She said it was a joke but I was NOT HAPPY NOR did I think it was acceptable!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Russ on December 13, 2008, 09:53:29 PM
It's been a Dateline rerun
LOL maybe one weekend MSNBC will do endless reruns of the lockup series of casey in prison  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Geraldo is on at 10pm ET and it will be a new show  ::MonkeyWink::
I'll be interested to see what new info there may be.. I am just disgusted with how close Geraldo and JB seem to have become. Earlier in a live report on FNC, Geraldo was annoyed that LE wouldn't allow JB and his team of merry smoke screen experts examine the crime scene and then Dr Spitz, who used to be very respected until the PS debacle, verbalized how indignant he was that they wouldn't allow him the professional courtesy to observe the autopsy I am glad LE is sticking to their guns.
I have become bery jaded with these pay to play ME's who spent a lifetime building reps only to sell themselves and end up looking assinine on the stand for the defense..



I am glad you brought that up because I watched that short segment he was doing.  I could not believe his whole segment was about how bad the state is being to the defense.  I won't watch his show tonight because I am certain as the main guest suggests - it will be a continuation of whatever Baez needs him to do. 

I had no respect for Geraldo, as he has proven time and time again over the course of his "should have been over" career he doesn't deserve.  I can't believe I was able to reach down and find just a bit more disgust at the bottom of the barrel.  He is so transparent.  He is a tool for Baez, the mouth clown who needs over-sized shoes to match his obvious over-sized appetite as of late.  Thank God the Judge in the latest motion wasn't a pushover, although he worried me a bit as he reminded me of the goofy ass judge in the Anna Nicole Simpson trial. Just a bit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:54:53 PM
They interviewed the 10 yo who lives on the adjoining property to where the remains were found and he said there is standing water in much of the woods knee to waist deep in places all summer long.  He said it only went down a couple of weeks ago as it does every winter.  He did seem pretty credible to me.

I also suspect there are little ravines and ditches formed by water run off where the water would be, not a total flood plain.  I think the remains were tossed into one of those.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:56:16 PM
Correction 19 yo who lived next door to the place the remains were found.  Not a 10 yo.

Too tired to be posting so will go watch Geraldo and hope he doesn't sing the praises of Baez or will change channels.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 09:56:50 PM
Good Evening Monkey's

I was in the cage from Noon till about 2:3O am last nite and this is my First time back - I tried to read what was in the last cage ..within the later last posts.

I find that I am too exhausted to read due to My Heart hurts so much .. Not that Caylee was to be found alive. We all knew that she was no longer among us.

The findings of Caylee,  that have been introduced via media and such just tears at me so and I know I am not alone.  I did leave the cage last night and maybe slept 3 hours and started my day today at 6 am. I think that this is just a Human Travesty of all accord that a child be treated in such a way.

That a precious Caylee be tossed like she was Nothing and then to have what was done to her on top of her own little self.

I find the Ants " Parents" very viable to be charged within all that has been said and re-stated and re-stated by their own accountability. They have Never Once ever STOOD up and Cried for Caylee .. NOT Once. They have only created speculative words, against their own words... re writing everything that they willfully know is on video.

Casey in my thoughts needs to be sentenced and I am going to leave it up to the Inmates of Orange County Correctional facility to give her ..her sentence. I truly do not believe that the courts will prevail for Caylee.  All that is needed is for Casey to be put into general population within the Orange County Prison System. Correctional system.

I think that the Media has taken precedence of this Case and its Not been about Caylee for some time.

I am sure ~The Ant's have so many legal papers in front of them for Profit of Books, Movies, exclusives ... they will be busy with which one to PICK for their Retirement for the next 3 months or so .... 

Who will provide a Funeral for Caylee ? 
Well we have Larry King and things to do ... YOU Know ...

Does Anyone within the ANT'S  Recall Her" Caylee Marie Anthony"  within this Circus ?


I am sure her Papa Great Grandpa Does .. You are My Sun Shine Papa 

Casey's fate will be found among her own cell mates. Just as Jeffrey Dahmer.

The Longer Casey has Freedom of Speech and Self Containment - the Bigger the Payroll gets within Media ... She is not to be another " Charlie Manson" ... please.
IF Casey is to be kept under " supervision" or in " Solitary" - I wish for the People of Florida to protest/sue what ever it takes to get her to be put into General Population.

For Caylee the little tiny Baby who Had a Heart of Gold and Was So healthy and Precious - I stand for Her ...first and foremost.

She needs Justice for her little Soul to Be at Peace.  :smt049







 

 
Beautifully said, I couldn't agree more. But I do believe justice will come for Caylee, her remains inside that garbage bag will say it all, along with the hard work of LE, and the state's presentation of their case. When I watched LK the other night, I became livid watching her grandparents, for some reason their lies esp got to me more than usual. I got this weird feeling that Caylee was looking down at all of this and thinking I never was really loved. It bothered me the rest of the night, and I woke up the next morning feeling the same way. When her remains were found, I just felt it is time and she will get justice. The defense can have their dream team, in the end the right thing will prevail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
Goodnight Anna!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 09:57:28 PM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 09:58:39 PM
Good Evening Monkey's

I was in the cage from Noon till about 2:3O am last nite and this is my First time back - I tried to read what was in the last cage ..within the later last posts.

I find that I am too exhausted to read due to My Heart hurts so much .. Not that Caylee was to be found alive. We all knew that she was no longer among us.

The findings of Caylee,  that have been introduced via media and such just tears at me so and I know I am not alone.  I did leave the cage last night and maybe slept 3 hours and started my day today at 6 am. I think that this is just a Human Travesty of all accord that a child be treated in such a way.

That a precious Caylee be tossed like she was Nothing and then to have what was done to her on top of her own little self.

I find the Ants " Parents" very viable to be charged within all that has been said and re-stated and re-stated by their own accountability. They have Never Once ever STOOD up and Cried for Caylee .. NOT Once. They have only created speculative words, against their own words... re writing everything that they willfully know is on video.

Casey in my thoughts needs to be sentenced and I am going to leave it up to the Inmates of Orange County Correctional facility to give her ..her sentence. I truly do not believe that the courts will prevail for Caylee.  All that is needed is for Casey to be put into general population within the Orange County Prison System. Correctional system.

I think that the Media has taken precedence of this Case and its Not been about Caylee for some time.

I am sure ~The Ant's have so many legal papers in front of them for Profit of Books, Movies, exclusives ... they will be busy with which one to PICK for their Retirement for the next 3 months or so .... 

Who will provide a Funeral for Caylee ? 
Well we have Larry King and things to do ... YOU Know ...

Does Anyone within the ANT'S  Recall Her" Caylee Marie Anthony"  within this Circus ?


I am sure her Papa Great Grandpa Does .. You are My Sun Shine Papa 

Casey's fate will be found among her own cell mates. Just as Jeffrey Dahmer.

The Longer Casey has Freedom of Speech and Self Containment - the Bigger the Payroll gets within Media ... She is not to be another " Charlie Manson" ... please.
IF Casey is to be kept under " supervision" or in " Solitary" - I wish for the People of Florida to protest/sue what ever it takes to get her to be put into General Population.

For Caylee the little tiny Baby who Had a Heart of Gold and Was So healthy and Precious - I stand for Her ...first and foremost.

She needs Justice for her little Soul to Be at Peace.  :smt049







 

 
Beautifully said, I couldn't agree more. But I do believe justice will come for Caylee, her remains inside that garbage bag will say it all, along with the hard work of LE, and the state's presentation of their case. When I watched LK the other night, I became livid watching her grandparents, for some reason their lies esp got to me more than usual. I got this weird feeling that Caylee was looking down at all of this and thinking I never was really loved. It bothered me the rest of the night, and I woke up the next morning feeling the same way. When her remains were found, I just felt it is time and she will get justice. The defense can have their dream team, in the end the right thing will prevail.
When caylee's body was found they said that cayle was aware of what her mother was doing....can be possible that caylee was buried in the anthony's alive


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
hmmmm soooooooooooo possibly geo or cindy could have VACUUMED sand or dirt or whathaveyou out of the trunk.. car... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

vacuums... vacuums... for one of those closet vacuum bags... or... just want to see if there is sand or dirt that someone CLEANED UP from the car..

george is a clean freak when it comes to cars.....hmmmmmmmmmmm


clothes that she tossed in with the remains.. .... possibly.... of course it could be towels or washclothes .....used to wipe up...

hmmmmmmm


so many possibilites...

whatEVER it is.... it has made smiling highfiving LEE AND CASEY suddenly cranky (taking down flowers and such today) and panic attack... (casey needing meds to calm down) .. AND it has ACTUALLY managed to SHUT CINDY UP completely....

i didnt think that could be done...


george? he has TRIED to keep quiet i think for sometime... in interviews he lets cindy do all the talking...
she seems to want to control the conversation... (read: propaganda)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Anna on December 13, 2008, 09:58:54 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.


I have an angel ornament I am going to write Caylee in glitter on for this.  Thanks for the great idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
They interviewed the 10 yo who lives on the adjoining property to where the remains were found and he said there is standing water in much of the woods knee to waist deep in places all summer long.  He said it only went down a couple of weeks ago as it does every winter.  He did seem pretty credible to me.

I also suspect there are little ravines and ditches formed by water run off where the water would be, not a total flood plain.  I think the remains were tossed into one of those.

There are conflicting reports and interviews.  Wouldn't the dogs hit - even if there was water!!  To be honest, I a relieved the FBI is involved!  Glad Casey and Cindy wanted them brought in!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 10:00:21 PM
If there was a Zeneida who was her nanny and she cared for her for what...2 yrs. I son't think this "nanny" would tape the childs mouth and much less believe she would kill her. Also if hte nanny had money as Casey said then why would she need to kidnap the child? No ransom needed. In fact possibly a person would kidnap the child because they didn't have one and take good care of them. The other day the A's were saying she is being taken good care of. Huh? I thought that was a stupid remark to make about a "kidnapped" child.

Anyway we all know...there was/is no Zeneida who was a nanny. Zanny-maybe....Xanex


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 13, 2008, 10:01:17 PM
Who is Shango?

Shango and Simian were anonymous code talkers from Aruba, who started posting early in the Natalee investigation.  They posted cryptic messages that described what had happened that fateful night.  Many of us have spent months and years doing research to decipher these codes.  We feel that we have uncovered most of what the cryptic messages were telling us.  We have learned the identity of Simian and we have very strong suspicions about the identity of Shango.  There is an entire section of Natalee Holloway here on SM that is designated for Shango and Simian.  It's very interesting and shocking to read.  We have uncovered the corrupt underbelly of Aruba and many of the players involved.  Shango is not Joran's lawyer.

Red is the owner and founder of Scared Monkeys.  He is an advocate for missing persons and an ally of Tim Miller and TES.  Remember, when Red says something, pay close attention because it is often something very important that he is trying to share with us.  He is not Cindy's brother.
Thank you SS. I have seen the Shango/Simian thread, but it confused me so much. Are they good code talkers or Vandersloot talkers?

What I have read from Red is awesome. Wish they could clone him. I would marry the clone. JK Mrs Red.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

ditto Mrs Red

I want one!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 13, 2008, 10:01:28 PM
Oh monkeys I dont know if I can stomach Geraldo Im going to try ---


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




looked like the crib bedding that i saw on gretas first walk through with cindy way back when.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: CarolynV on December 13, 2008, 10:01:32 PM
If Casey is going to go with her second "official" story, that Zanny and Samantha took Caylee at the park, then the prosecution is going to say, "wait, we're you lying then (when she told her first story), or are you lying now?

I can't wait.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:02:41 PM
They interviewed the 10 yo who lives on the adjoining property to where the remains were found and he said there is standing water in much of the woods knee to waist deep in places all summer long.  He said it only went down a couple of weeks ago as it does every winter.  He did seem pretty credible to me.

I also suspect there are little ravines and ditches formed by water run off where the water would be, not a total flood plain.  I think the remains were tossed into one of those.

There are conflicting reports and interviews.  Wouldn't the dogs hit - even if there was water!!  To be honest, I a relieved the FBI is involved!  Glad Casey and Cindy wanted them brought in!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

They do have cadaver dogs that can detect in water.  I'm not sure they were used.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 13, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Nite Monkeys, Joe and I are going to bed. This is wearing me out. Have a good evening. Oh and one last thing before we go to bed.

I HATE CASEY, CINDY AND LEE ANTHONY

I somewhat Hate George too, but I think he is just a putz that can answer the phone unless he asks that b*tch of a wife. JMO, I will go to Mass in the morning and pray for my hatred and ugly thoughts about the Anthonys.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Oh, maybe not.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:04:19 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue::  My take on all the pond scum involved (well, almost all), it this offends anyone- I apologize in advance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 13, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
Who is Shango?

Shango and Simian were anonymous code talkers from Aruba, who started posting early in the Natalee investigation.  They posted cryptic messages that described what had happened that fateful night.  Many of us have spent months and years doing research to decipher these codes.  We feel that we have uncovered most of what the cryptic messages were telling us.  We have learned the identity of Simian and we have very strong suspicions about the identity of Shango.  There is an entire section of Natalee Holloway here on SM that is designated for Shango and Simian.  It's very interesting and shocking to read.  We have uncovered the corrupt underbelly of Aruba and many of the players involved.  Shango is not Joran's lawyer.

Red is the owner and founder of Scared Monkeys.  He is an advocate for missing persons and an ally of Tim Miller and TES.  Remember, when Red says something, pay close attention because it is often something very important that he is trying to share with us.  He is not Cindy's brother.
Thank you SS. I have seen the Shango/Simian thread, but it confused me so much. Are they good code talkers or Vandersloot talkers?

What I have read from Red is awesome. Wish they could clone him. I would marry the clone. JK Mrs Red.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

ditto Mrs Red

I want one!!!
Friend of Monkey, keep your monkey paws off my Red Clone.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:04:59 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:06:04 PM
::MonkeyTongue::  My take on all the pond scum involved (well, almost all), it this offends anyone- I apologize in advance
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:07:50 PM
They interviewed the 10 yo who lives on the adjoining property to where the remains were found and he said there is standing water in much of the woods knee to waist deep in places all summer long.  He said it only went down a couple of weeks ago as it does every winter.  He did seem pretty credible to me.

I also suspect there are little ravines and ditches formed by water run off where the water would be, not a total flood plain.  I think the remains were tossed into one of those.

There are conflicting reports and interviews.  Wouldn't the dogs hit - even if there was water!!  To be honest, I a relieved the FBI is involved!  Glad Casey and Cindy wanted them brought in!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

They do have cadaver dogs that can detect in water.  I'm not sure they were used.

Well if there was water there, I would hope would use the right kind of dogs!!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:08:22 PM
Geraldo has Phil Keating on.. I met him in October when he covered Bill Clinton campaigning in Fort Pierce Fla.. I called him over, introduced myself, shook his hand and we took a pic.. lmao flamom's brush with fame  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 13, 2008, 10:09:02 PM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.

Hmmm not far from the anthony's house

1. I would be talking to Casey's  friend Chris who seen Casey jogging down Chickasaw on July 15th Around 9:30 am.. Murders sometime go back to the scene

2. I would be talking to Tony' about the  day of June 23rd when he broke into the shed to retrieve gas cans for Casey and bringing her back to her car. Hmmm Was her car parked on or around Chickasaw that day? Out of gas ploy ... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 10:09:33 PM
Nite Monkeys, Joe and I are going to bed. This is wearing me out. Have a good evening. Oh and one last thing before we go to bed.

I HATE CASEY, CINDY AND LEE ANTHONY

I somewhat Hate George too, but I think he is just a putz that can answer the phone unless he asks that b*tch of a wife. JMO, I will go to Mass in the morning and pray for my hatred and ugly thoughts about the Anthonys.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Oh, maybe not.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Goodnight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:09:39 PM
Finally peace........

I'm going to shoot Geraldo if he doesn't STFU~he is saying there is something bogus going on??? WTF ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:10:28 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?
Mytime, it was on earlier during a FNC report on Caylee.
I cannot believe the defense team is posturing at the crime scene
What, the FBI investigators are going to perpetrate a fraud????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:12:13 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?
Mytime, it was on earlier during a FNC report on Caylee.
I cannot believe the defense team is posturing at the crime scene
What, the FBI investigators are going to perpetrate a fraud????

There is a big conspiracy!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 13, 2008, 10:12:59 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie
I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:13:16 PM
OMG... all of this spinning is making me dizzy..................
       ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: wreck on December 13, 2008, 10:13:32 PM
Geraldo is a douche.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 13, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
::MonkeyTongue::  My take on all the pond scum involved (well, almost all), it this offends anyone- I apologize in advance
  ::MonkeyDance:: Poor George he was born with a silver Cindy in his mouth.

For all monkeys that are too young, Ann Richards (tore up hag) said that GHWB was born with a silver foot in his mouth or something like that, when he was running for president.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:14:27 PM
Geraldo is a douche.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 13, 2008, 10:14:33 PM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
Finally peace........

I'm going to shoot Geraldo if he doesn't STFU~he is saying there is something bogus going on??? WTF ::MonkeyNoNo::

Whorealdo is just about my LEAST favorite TV personality. If the defense is going to claim that the cops are conducting some sort of conspiracy to convict poor innocent Casey as Baez and the new additions to the defense team appear to be stating because they were unable to gain access to either the crime scene where the remains were found or to the autopsy and examination of the remains, I would suggest they have NO DEFENSE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.


I have an angel ornament I am going to write Caylee in glitter on for this.  Thanks for the great idea.


That's a great idea, Anna.  I used to do glitter on ornaments  with my children when they were younger.  I've got to get the glitter out again.  My tree has lots of ornaments, but there is certainly room for one more for little Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:15:13 PM
watching Geraldo ughhh!!!  The defense has a persecution complex that they can't be at the crime scene.  Tsk Tsk Tsk.
I think they want to be there so they can accuse the LE or FBI of compromising the integrity of the crime scene.  Saw it with OJ.  It's really getting on my nerves.  How often does one see defense teams at crime scenes??  I remember Dr. Lee accusing LE of randomly walking through the blood and blah blah blah.  They make me sick. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:15:23 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?
Mytime, it was on earlier during a FNC report on Caylee.
I cannot believe the defense team is posturing at the crime scene
What, the FBI investigators are going to perpetrate a fraud????

I'm going to need a xanax~ ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: The last time Dr. Lee was at the crime scene he his a freaking piece of evidence, thank God the judge said no, I HATE THEM ALL, INCLUDING GERALDO...........must be Baez's butt buddy. Sorry, just need to rant as I am pizzed. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 10:15:27 PM
Finally peace........

I'm going to shoot Geraldo if he doesn't STFU~he is saying there is something bogus going on??? WTF ::MonkeyNoNo::

well OF COURSE there is something BOGUS going on....
its BOGUS that geraldo can spew crap WITHOUT the DISCLAIMER that he is PALS with jose BAEZ..

thats whats freakin bogus about it..

DISCLAIMER GERALDO! REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID TO SEAN HANNITY... JOSE IS YOUR FRIEND!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 13, 2008, 10:15:27 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie
I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!
I have lights on my patio, but now I will put up a tree in honour of Caylee Marie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 10:15:57 PM
Geraldo is a douche.

Quite funny. My husband calls him "her dildo", not sue who he thinks would want to use it though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
Geraldo is a douche.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

That is hilarious   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 10:16:20 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?

It will probably be on Geraldo.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html

(snipped)

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
Finally peace........

I'm going to shoot Geraldo if he doesn't STFU~he is saying there is something bogus going on??? WTF ::MonkeyNoNo::

Whorealdo is just about my LEAST favorite TV personality. If the defense is going to claim that the cops are conducting some sort of conspiracy to convict poor innocent Casey as Baez and the new additions to the defense team appear to be stating because they were unable to gain access to either the crime scene where the remains were found or to the autopsy and examination of the remains, I would suggest they have NO DEFENSE!

B I N G O


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 13, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
As for me, I've seen enough of this BS! I am now changing the channel and I urge every1 else to as well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Geraldo is a douche.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I could say something~but, I won't go there ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Geraldo is a douche.

WRECK!!!!  My virgin ears!!!!!!!!



yes he is!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 13, 2008, 10:18:50 PM
UGH Jose keeps saying that "SCIENCE DOESNT LIE"

EXACTLY Science doesn't lie so let the Scientist do their job, Bae-a$$....





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 10:20:53 PM
As for me, I've seen enough of this BS! I am now changing the channel and I urge every1 else to as well!

Good idea! I've had enough of my yearly dose of Whorealdo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:21:02 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:21:12 PM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!
It is beyond sick, but I'm really worried what is going to happen after the testing and there is positive proof it is Caylee. What are the Anthony's going to do? I have a sick feeling they are going to make a large sum of money exploiting Caylee's funeral.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:21:40 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?

It will probably be on Geraldo.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html

(snipped)

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

(snipped)


Thank You Klaas!!

Oh Wreck - we need you!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 10:21:55 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:22:30 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

I feel that's what she did too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: perriwinkle on December 13, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
I have been lurking for a while.  I just wanted to say that I am so thankful that Caylee was found.  I know that God's will is being done.  His vengence is coming and it is FOR Caylee.  I fear not for the future.  Casey is going down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:23:23 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:23:44 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.

Whoever stands to capitalize the most on Casey being exonorated!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 10:23:47 PM
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/geraldo-interview-with-jose-baez/

GERALDO says at the beginning that he considers JOSE BAEZ his FRIEND..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:25:36 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 10:25:42 PM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
That's so sad. How old is she? She sure sounds like a very loving little girl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:27:38 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 10:28:11 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.

Whoever stands to capitalize the most on Casey being exonorated!!! 

They capitalize on it no matter what the final outcome. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 10:28:21 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 
What if Caylee had tape on her mouth to quite her and then she was silenced like JonBenet Ramsey..with a ligature that wouldn't take any strength especially with a 2 yr old. I really am thinking the chloroform was maybe not used on Caylee but for cleanup in the car or the drug scene stuff.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:29:02 PM
Ok, Now I have been FORCED to add to my scum cast


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 10:29:28 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.

Whoever stands to capitalize the most on Casey being exonorated!!! 

They capitalize on it no matter what the final outcome. 


exposure... advertising... ego boost..you name it.. that is exactly right.. they DO capitalize on it no matter what ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:29:35 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:29:39 PM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
That's so sad. How old is she? She sure sounds like a very loving little girl.
she is 6, she saw early news tha caylee was missing and new that the mother could do something bad to caylee but she does not know that caylee is dead i do not know how to explain her that caylee is dead i know she will ask me if casey killed caylee ...i do not what to say because she was asking lately why moms hurt babies.....I do not what to tell her....she will cry ....she got a princess dress for her bunny because the picture that she saw of caylee is with the princess dress...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:29:59 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:31:15 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 
What if Caylee had tape on her mouth to quite her and then she was silenced like JonBenet Ramsey..with a ligature that wouldn't take any strength especially with a 2 yr old. I really am thinking the chloroform was maybe not used on Caylee but for cleanup in the car or the drug scene stuff.


it can be possible...if she killed in her car she does not need to taped her...she must killed her in her house so cindy will not heard


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Russ on December 13, 2008, 10:32:10 PM
If just one of these rotten Medical examiners would back up and offer to provide services for free to the prosecution, I think they would retain some sense of respectability in God's eyes.  The money they could make in interviews would dwarf what little piece of the pie they are all nibbling on like dung beetles.

Come on Kobi, where is your sense of decency???

They are bunch of cockroaches and rodents who think the lights are turned off.  OCSO and Caylee, shine your light!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:32:56 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.

Whoever stands to capitalize the most on Casey being exonorated!!! 

They capitalize on it no matter what the final outcome. 

I tend to think if she is exonerated that there would likely be much more money to be made.  Scott Peterson went bye bye and that ended that.  If Casey were to get off this case could be stretched to full capacity.  Media makes money, publishers, producers, it goes on and on.  There would be no end in sight for the vulchers.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:33:09 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
Ok, Now I have been FORCED to add to my scum cast
Don't stop with the Anthonys and Geraldo, look at all the defense characters you have to work with. Do you think Dr. Baden will become part of the defense experts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:36:13 PM
Ok, Now I have been FORCED to add to my scum cast
Don't stop with the Anthonys and Geraldo, look at all the defense characters you have to work with. Do you think Dr. Baden will become part of the defense experts?

Probably~ and then I will have to post all the crap I have on him ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:37:16 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: princess monkey on December 13, 2008, 10:37:17 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!

This idea brought tears to my eyes, it is so incredibly thoughtful. However I think I must be the only Jewish monkey on this board. Last night my family and I went to Temple and said the Jewish Mourner's prayer for Caylee, it was very emotional and moving for us. I will ask my boys (ages 11, 14, and 17) what we can do during Hanukkah to honor and remember her. Thanks for the idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 10:37:46 PM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
That's so sad. How old is she? She sure sounds like a very loving little girl.
she is 6, she saw early news tha caylee was missing and new that the mother could do something bad to caylee but she does not know that caylee is dead i do not know how to explain her that caylee is dead i know she will ask me if casey killed caylee ...i do not what to say because she was asking lately why moms hurt babies.....I do not what to tell her....she will cry ....she got a princess dress for her bunny because the picture that she saw of caylee is with the princess dress...
I'm sure you will find the right words to explain it to her, it is alot harder to explain things like this when she is only 6.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:39:49 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

MM - ITA - I do think that Cindy wanted Casey to go up and be better mother! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2008, 10:40:03 PM
Ok, Now I have been FORCED to add to my scum cast
Don't stop with the Anthonys and Geraldo, look at all the defense characters you have to work with. Do you think Dr. Baden will become part of the defense experts?

Probably~ and then I will have to post all the crap I have on him ::MonkeyNoNo::
And I for one would be very interested in that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:40:06 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

You could very well be right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 13, 2008, 10:41:11 PM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
That's so sad. How old is she? She sure sounds like a very loving little girl.
she is 6, she saw early news tha caylee was missing and new that the mother could do something bad to caylee but she does not know that caylee is dead i do not know how to explain her that caylee is dead i know she will ask me if casey killed caylee ...i do not what to say because she was asking lately why moms hurt babies.....I do not what to tell her....she will cry ....she got a princess dress for her bunny because the picture that she saw of caylee is with the princess dress...

I am so sorry that you have to explain to your little one things that are really not explainable. No normal person can explain why a mother would hurt her own beautiful baby. Anything you say destroys some part of your child's innocence, but she is at the age where you can't spin something because she will hear things and know you haven't been truthful. I hope you can find the words you need to say to answer her questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:41:20 PM
I was wondering how long it would be before Dr Baden flipped and he did criticizing LE for not allowing the spin Dr's at the autopsy. I may only be a nurse, but I only remember independent examiners being allowed to observe these sort of medical services  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:41:55 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

You could very well be right.

Right is my middle name!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:43:14 PM
I was wondering how long it would be before Dr Baden flipped and he did criticizing LE for not allowing the spin Dr's at the autopsy. I may only be a nurse, but I only remember independent examiners being allowed to observe these sort of medical services  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think his integrity went out the window when wifey poo got involved with the defense.  Huge conflict of interest, huge waste!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

You could very well be right.

Right is my middle name!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's a good name to have!  Can I borrow it sometime?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:44:59 PM
MRM - Do you need a nap?  Please give BOB a kiss for me!! 

I cant believe Casey can get this kind of defense!!  FTLOG - how??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:45:27 PM
How weird must it be to look down your street and see Geraldo and his panel sitting on the side of the road doing a live show..surreal, like an alternate reality...   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 10:45:29 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:47:06 PM
MRM - Do you need a nap?  Please give BOB a kiss for me!! 

I cant believe Casey can get this kind of defense!!  FTLOG - how??

Not real name just a made up alias!!!   ::MonkeyTongue::  Investers I say laying in wait!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:47:26 PM
Brother Craig is there!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:48:32 PM
Brother Craig is there!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He is fine, so what happened to Geraldo? genetic roulette??  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Ok, Now I have been FORCED to add to my scum cast
Don't stop with the Anthonys and Geraldo, look at all the defense characters you have to work with. Do you think Dr. Baden will become part of the defense experts?

Probably~ and then I will have to post all the crap I have on him ::MonkeyNoNo::
And I for one would be very interested in that.

Well start with OJ, then go to the Phil Spector trial, Jason Williams trial, the Martha Brailsford case (book is Scream on the Water), and the trial of the man in Long Island who murdered his wife by tying her up and injecting her with potassium-but, she didn't die so he and his girlfriend suffocated her with a plastic bag and laid her at the bottom of the stairs. Baden testified she fell even though she had ligature marks on her wrist and ankles. I can't remember the name of this one, but the father who did this then tried to kill his own daughter, and eventually confessed on his death bed. The Martha Brailsford case was worse, he testified that she had been killed before thrown off a sailboat in Salem-he based this on the tissue showed no hemmoraging, the jurors were making fun of him because there was NO tissue left to observe to make that determination. This case reminded me of the NH case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 10:49:55 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:51:35 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 10:52:21 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.

Thanks.........but my ideal was blownbecause I thought that Tony had said she left in the middle of the night, I dont know the date when Ricardo said it so............................I had to take my meds and they are making me groggy..lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:52:26 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
Brother Craig is there!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He is fine, so what happened to Geraldo? genetic roulette??  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Somebody peed in their gene pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 10:53:55 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?

It will probably be on Geraldo.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html

(snipped)

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

(snipped)

Lee better go back in hiding!!! ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:54:01 PM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
Lee is a jerk!!  Why's he showing up now??  I need my BP medication................... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:54:28 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.

Thanks.........but my ideal was blownbecause I thought that Tony had said she left in the middle of the night, I dont know the date when Ricardo said it so............................I had to take my meds and they are making me groggy..lol
it could be with water if it is an aea that the water drain when it rains.....it is a bayou close there or a big ditch...some wooded areas are used as a natural ponds when is rainny season


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:55:19 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::
MyTime, I know I left a small bag of potting soil on my grass, the tough Florida kind, like crabgrass, and within a few days there was an indentation in it and the grass started to turn yellow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.

Thanks.........but my ideal was blownbecause I thought that Tony had said she left in the middle of the night, I dont know the date when Ricardo said it so............................I had to take my meds and they are making me groggy..lol

Ricardo said that she left in the night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:55:57 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


Here is the link about the water and the video I was talking about ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:56:40 PM
my girl is pretty smart and she is very concerned about caylee.........I did not know that the kids in her school talk about caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: monkeemama on December 13, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




looked like the crib bedding that i saw on gretas first walk through with cindy way back when.....

Can someone please find me a picture of Caylee's bed/bedding set? I have seen them all over, and now, when I want to see a picture I can't find one. I've been googling for over 30 mins and I'm getting REALLY frustrated now!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 10:57:37 PM
Lee has been working out, thats why we havent seen him, and now he is strong enough to tear up a bunch of flowers and ribbon......boy Ill bet he's sore now after using all those muscles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he's a +++++!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 10:57:55 PM
my girl is pretty smart and she is very concerned about caylee.........I did not know that the kids in her school talk about caylee
It's amazing, isn;t it? Even my teens talk aut Caylee and ask for updates


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 10:58:25 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.

Thanks.........but my ideal was blownbecause I thought that Tony had said she left in the middle of the night, I dont know the date when Ricardo said it so............................I had to take my meds and they are making me groggy..lol

Ricardo said that she left in the night.
It seems that the only moments she thought about caylee was when she was at bed and not partying


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


Here is the link about the water and the video I was talking about ::MonkeyConfused::
oops~ Forgot the link      http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=24109&z=3


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 10:59:34 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 
Yes. I posted it back a few pages. He was on NG Thurs night and couldn't search twice because of water. That is why he pulled out the first time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:00:52 PM
my girl is pretty smart and she is very concerned about caylee.........I did not know that the kids in her school talk about caylee
It's amazing, isn;t it? Even my teens talk aut Caylee and ask for updates
yes it is amazing.......she asked for updates too. There is bad for them because they know at early edge that maybe they can not be safe with their own parents...?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:02:17 PM
hey remember one time in Tony statement he said that Casey got up in the middle of the night and left and told him her mom wanted her to bring caylee home....does anybody know what day that was..


also does anybody remember what day it was that she showed up at jessies to take a shower.

That was from Ricardo's statement!!
She took a shower at Jesse's July 1st around 10:30 a.m.

Thanks.........but my ideal was blownbecause I thought that Tony had said she left in the middle of the night, I dont know the date when Ricardo said it so............................I had to take my meds and they are making me groggy..lol

Ricardo said that she left in the night.
It seems that the only moments she thought about caylee was when she was at bed and not partying
Yea I remember now,   I guess that was when she was dating him........and I doubt Casey ever really thought about Caylee at all...........because if she wasnt partying then she was on the computor or the phone, she only thought about Caylee when she interupted her or kept her from doing something or going somewhere!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




looked like the crib bedding that i saw on gretas first walk through with cindy way back when.....

Can someone please find me a picture of Caylee's bed/bedding set? I have seen them all over, and now, when I want to see a picture I can't find one. I've been googling for over 30 mins and I'm getting REALLY frustrated now!!!

I inserted what looks like a small pillow from her bed they took with they recently searched the Anthony home again:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 13, 2008, 11:03:52 PM
Well hubby down neck..wants to check his email so I better get off of here but wanted to ask if someone remembers who picked up Casey and helped her get gas for her car? He said when he took her to put it in he didn't notice a smell. It seems he said she was somewhere in her neighborhood.
Anybody...who? when?




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!
for 6 months is difficult to believe that caylee still have soft tissue. I hear doctors said in NG after 2 months caylee was missing that the only thing will find is bones


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 11:04:05 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


Here is the link about the water and the video I was talking about ::MonkeyConfused::
oops~ Forgot the link      http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=24109&z=3


Thank you! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mgoblue on December 13, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

That's my take too.

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: monkeemama on December 13, 2008, 11:06:08 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




looked like the crib bedding that i saw on gretas first walk through with cindy way back when.....

Can someone please find me a picture of Caylee's bed/bedding set? I have seen them all over, and now, when I want to see a picture I can't find one. I've been googling for over 30 mins and I'm getting REALLY frustrated now!!!

I inserted what looks like a small pillow from her bed they took with they recently searched the Anthony home again:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)

Ahhh Klass thank you so much!! It was making me CRAZY!

My daughter has that same bedding in her room at my parent's house. The Winnie-the-pooh Ecru bedding!

And that DEFINITELY does look like part of it in that evidence bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:07:10 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie
What a fabulous idea! 
I just returned from my Dad's house for Weekend Dinner, I enjoyed spending time with my siblings who still live at home and who range in age from 5 -11.  They were jumping around the Christmas tree showing me their different ornaments they hung, how proud they were that this ornament was "theirs".  It was so very adorable.  It would be an honor for Caylee to have an ornament on our trees here at my house, I think I will pick a few up at the Halmark store tomorrow.
Dinner topic with my father and step mom was that of the find of Caylee after we sent the little ones off to watch the "Twelve Dogs of Christmas" with chocolate cake.  My Dad gave his personal perspective as a Sherrif on the details thus far, and even agreed that the parents should have charges brought forth against them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 11:07:19 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

That's my take too.

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:08:37 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 11:09:17 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

IIRC, it was LE that searched this area before Tropical Storm Fay!!  So no, I will ask LE not Tim........now go take a nap!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:10:13 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:10:25 PM
amy in NG interview was very nice after all with casey....i do not know why the media do not go back her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 11:11:15 PM
thanks klaas... i THOUGHT it looked like the evidence in the bag.... what do YOU think?
greta said she was gonna look at her film from when she was in there... and it made ME think that i had seen that RUFFLE before.... and sure enough... there it was on the crib..

grim...just GRIM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:11:53 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I think chloroform is a volatil substance. It can dissapear with the time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:12:18 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




looked like the crib bedding that i saw on gretas first walk through with cindy way back when.....

Can someone please find me a picture of Caylee's bed/bedding set? I have seen them all over, and now, when I want to see a picture I can't find one. I've been googling for over 30 mins and I'm getting REALLY frustrated now!!!

I inserted what looks like a small pillow from her bed they took with they recently searched the Anthony home again:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/pillowcompare.jpg)


THAT was a great job of putting that pic in a pic for us klaas! its exactly what i was thinking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:13:45 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!



That wouldn't surprise me at all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:13:45 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


omg last time that i saw her she had big breast... I do not know if she was like that before


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: marymary on December 13, 2008, 11:13:57 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.

Well than one of two things I can think of.  LE didn't go down that street, or Lee had the body hidden and dropped it off there.  He seems to like cleaning up things, and seems very irritated right now!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flossy on December 13, 2008, 11:14:19 PM
Who is NE?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Shell on December 13, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 
Yes. I posted it back a few pages. He was on NG Thurs night and couldn't search twice because of water. That is why he pulled out the first time.

I do not believe the bag was moved after the searches took place, but I do believe Tim knew what he was talking about regarding not searching because of water so as not to destroy evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:14:56 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I think chloroform is a volatil substance. It can dissapear with the time
I dont know about chloraformbut I know that even though it rains and the moth balls get wet and evaporate the smell seeps into the ground and still repells all the little creatures.............ig the rags were in the bag and the bag was taped closed I think the smell would stay around a long time...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 11:15:50 PM
would be INTERESTING if one of the jc penneys reciepts was for a REPLACEMENT for .."ahem "  the bedding....


grim... just GRIM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:15:50 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:16:13 PM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flossy on December 13, 2008, 11:16:25 PM
would be INTERESTING if one of the jc penneys reciepts was for a REPLACEMENT for .."ahem "  the bedding....


grim... just GRIM!

Yep, that's my vote.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:16:36 PM
Who is NE?

New England?  Patriots?  Tom Brady...ew!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:16:37 PM
Who is NE?


National Enquirer   -   I know, a rag.   I hope it isn't true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Searching on December 13, 2008, 11:17:21 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?
Mytime, it was on earlier during a FNC report on Caylee.
I cannot believe the defense team is posturing at the crime scene
What, the FBI investigators are going to perpetrate a fraud????

I'm going to need a xanax~ ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: The last time Dr. Lee was at the crime scene he his a freaking piece of evidence, thank God the judge said no, I HATE THEM ALL, INCLUDING GERALDO...........must be Baez's butt buddy. Sorry, just need to rant as I am pizzed. ::MonkeyShocked::

I have not trusted that moron since I watched him sit and draw a map on t.v to where our troops were and pretty much led the enemy right to them.. he is a moron and will forever be a moron!! I refuse to watch him,have not watched him since that happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:17:46 PM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)

Oh, I meant to add, that is an awful thing to do! How heartless can he be? He should have stayed in hiding!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:17:51 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:18:06 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


Here is the link about the water and the video I was talking about ::MonkeyConfused::
oops~ Forgot the link      http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=24109&z=3


Thank you! 

I'm just glad this boy videoed this and what could be a statement about the water levels, because we all know the defense is going to play dirty~it's the only hand they have left to play ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:18:57 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.
Note to add, not saying I think she was psychic and predicted a hurricane, just saying she knew more than likely we always end up getting some sort of tropical crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Shell on December 13, 2008, 11:19:09 PM

Danielle VanDam was found in a previously searched area. Could depend on the way the wind is blowing. I have no idea. It has happened that remains were found in an area they thought was searched. Just saying...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: kcrn on December 13, 2008, 11:19:15 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.
i will never understand how anyone can defend such an obvious heinous act and it is clear to me that this so called dream team are in it for nothing more than publicity and notoriety and possibly a cash in on movie/books, etc. how can they look at that beautiful baby and capitalize off of such a thing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:20:03 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I think chloroform is a volatil substance. It can dissapear with the time
I dont know about chloraformbut I know that even though it rains and the moth balls get wet and evaporate the smell seeps into the ground and still repells all the little creatures.............ig the rags were in the bag and the bag was taped closed I think the smell would stay around a long time...

Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:20:26 PM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)

Oh, I meant to add, that is an awful thing to do! How heartless can he be? He should have stayed in hiding!
Wow!  He must have been working out then and pumping iron since the sign kicked his ass the last time to be able to take on an entire memorial.  WHAT A LOSER!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Babybear on December 13, 2008, 11:21:01 PM
Jose Baez is such an ass.  So his story now is that Caylee is dead, but Zanaida took her from Casey at JB Park and killed her.  OK.  In order for this to be the defense, Casey will have to testify to it.  Baez can't do it, and neither can anyone else.  If someone says Casey told them this, it's hearsay and inadmissable.   The whole Zanaida story can only be admitted as evidence if Casey takes the stand and tells it.  I don't think even Baez is dumb enough to put Casey on the stand.  She can't keep to one story for a minute, much less under cross-examination.  I'd kind of like to see it, though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 11:21:04 PM
DIANE downs.... after she killed one child and left the other two injured (one in wheelchair for life) when she TRIED to kill ALL THREE kids so she could have her BF who didnt WANT kids....


anywho... she got pregnant.... they figured it was for the SYMPATHY the jurors would have for a pregnant woman....


grim... nasty and GRIM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:21:10 PM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)

He sure is a jerk.  He needs to grow up.   
His anger is suspicious to me.   jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:21:33 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:21:36 PM
the area caylee was found is called as a wet land?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:22:08 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I think chloroform is a volatil substance. It can dissapear with the time
I dont know about chloraformbut I know that even though it rains and the moth balls get wet and evaporate the smell seeps into the ground and still repells all the little creatures.............ig the rags were in the bag and the bag was taped closed I think the smell would stay around a long time...

Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.


There you go, and if the body was in water, the chloraform could be the key to why the animals didnt bother it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:23:06 PM
Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.
AH HA!  SO THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE KOOL-AID!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:24:07 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.

He stated that water wouldn't have mattered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:24:22 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I think chloroform is a volatil substance. It can dissapear with the time
I dont know about chloraformbut I know that even though it rains and the moth balls get wet and evaporate the smell seeps into the ground and still repells all the little creatures.............ig the rags were in the bag and the bag was taped closed I think the smell would stay around a long time...

Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.


There you go, and if the body was in water, the chloraform could be the key to why the animals didnt bother it!
maybe that is the reason for LE to take samples of the soil


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:24:42 PM

Danielle VanDam was found in a previously searched area. Could depend on the way the wind is blowing. I have no idea. It has happened that remains were found in an area they thought was searched. Just saying...

I believe that it was covered by water. It would have been many weeks after the body was placed there that LE would have been looking, plenty of time to fill up. It only takes a couple of rain storms, or even a very heavy downpour. It's amazing how quick water accumulates! Also, I'm not surprised that she was not far off the road. I can't see KC going off too far into the woods, especially since she was probably trying to hurry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?
Mytime, it was on earlier during a FNC report on Caylee.
I cannot believe the defense team is posturing at the crime scene
What, the FBI investigators are going to perpetrate a fraud????

I'm going to need a xanax~ ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: The last time Dr. Lee was at the crime scene he his a freaking piece of evidence, thank God the judge said no, I HATE THEM ALL, INCLUDING GERALDO...........must be Baez's butt buddy. Sorry, just need to rant as I am pizzed. ::MonkeyShocked::

I have not trusted that moron since I watched him sit and draw a map on t.v to where our troops were and pretty much led the enemy right to them.. he is a moron and will forever be a moron!! I refuse to watch him,have not watched him since that happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:26:14 PM
the area caylee was found is called as a wet land?
yes, its low lying and swampy although in the summer it is dry sometimes but when it rains it holds water for awhile due to the area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:26:21 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.

He stated that water wouldn't have mattered.
Did he say he took the dogs down that way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:26:51 PM
Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.
AH HA!  SO THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE KOOL-AID!!
It means that the chloroform will not be in the soil but it will be in the groundwater?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:27:31 PM
Wonder if the defense "dream" team would have showed up today if Geraldo hadn't been there.  This is all for show folks.  Still would love to know who's paying for this defense team.
i will never understand how anyone can defend such an obvious heinous act and it is clear to me that this so called dream team are in it for nothing more than publicity and notoriety and possibly a cash in on movie/books, etc. how can they look at that beautiful baby and capitalize off of such a thing?

Yes it was a circus like atmosphere seeing them standing there talking to Geraldo. Where was Koby? I think he's out of the loop now, I don't know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:28:00 PM
Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.
AH HA!  SO THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE KOOL-AID!!
It means that the chloroform will not be in the soil but it will be in the groundwater?
Isn't that what you said?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:28:48 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!

omg.  That's freaky.   Please God, don't let this be true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:29:26 PM
the area caylee was found is called as a wet land?
yes, its low lying and swampy although in the summer it is dry sometimes but when it rains it holds water for awhile due to the area.
maybe is a bayou or a big ditch in the area, so with a small and insignificant rain the natural water flow will go to that land. she knew most of the time that area will have water and will be diificult to find caylee. Maybe she thought to move caylee to aother area in dried season


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:29:36 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.

He stated that water wouldn't have mattered.
Did he say he took the dogs down that way?

IIRC it was Dr Baden saying that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2008, 11:29:41 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/cops_confident_skeletal_remains_are_missing_caylee_anthony/celebrity/65895

COPS CONFIDENT SKELETAL REMAINS ARE MISSING CAYLEE
 
The defense team for Casey Anthony, the mother of the missing child Caylee, said the sheriff's office is confident that they have found the child's remains.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office informed Linda Kenney Baden of Anthony's legal team that they believe the child's bones discovered in a wooded glade near the Anthony home are indeed Caylee's. 

Law enforcement officials think its the missing toddler because of the color of the hair and the shape and appearance of the cranial areal.

"The remains are consistent with those of a 2- to 3-year-old child," Orange County Capt. Angelo Nieves told FOXNews.com.

"We have not provided any confirmation that it is the Caylee child. We're not going to go and jump the gun, if you will, rush in order to make an identification without the medical examiner's office."

Orange County Captain Kevin Beary said the Anthony home was re-investigated top-to-bottom after the medical examiner found "some clues that came out of the remains" linking them to the house.

"We took some things out of the house that the forensic people are very interested in," Beary revealed. 

Police will "have to wait seven to 14 days for the DNA analysis to absolutely make sure" as there are other missing child cases in the Florida area.

DEVELOPING STORY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mgoblue on December 13, 2008, 11:30:37 PM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 

Are you speaking from any kind of experience?   ::MonkeyWink::

That's my take too.

Absolutely not!!!  There are real babysitters around in a pinch!!!  If one works for a living.

Neighbors work well too!  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey didn't have to look far since her parents were most likely willing to babysit.

I respectfully disagree.  I think her parents were giving her a hard time about going out.  They may have been using that as leverage to try and get her to find a Damn Job!!  It was one thing when Ricardo let Caylee sleep over, but Tony was against it.  Poor little Casey had to go home at a decent hour and watch her own child.  I think the A's were fed up with her lieing and stealing and were refusing to sit for Caylee at night.

????


Posting error. What I meant to say was "That's my take too."  See above. Sorry for the confusion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:30:42 PM
Chloroform can be transported in air as vapour and dissolved in water.

Where in the environment does chloroform (trichloromethane) end up?
Chloroform evaporates easily into the air where it eventually breaks down to other toxic chemicals such as phosgene and hydrogen chloride. This is a slow process. Chloroform dissolves in water from where it can evaporate to air or can break down to other chemicals. The vast majority of chloroform will eventually end up in air and only a small percentage will end up in water. Chloroform is not bound to soil and can travel through the soil to the ground water. Due to the absence of light and air, chloroform may last a long time in ground water.
AH HA!  SO THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE KOOL-AID!!
It means that the chloroform will not be in the soil but it will be in the groundwater?
Isn't that what you said?
well we know that LE took soil samples. I do not know if they bored that area to take samples of the groundwater.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:30:46 PM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:30:57 PM
the area caylee was found is called as a wet land?
yes, its low lying and swampy although in the summer it is dry sometimes but when it rains it holds water for awhile due to the area.
Yes...Cecilita,  that could have been the reason for soil samples, and also the reason for the investigators to remove all the chemicals from the Anthony's house!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:31:01 PM
So, C&G are giving their fingerprints to LE.   I haven't heard if Lee is, yet.    Does anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:31:19 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!

Yes, that is really creepy if that's true! Please, let IT NOT be true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mgoblue on December 13, 2008, 11:32:48 PM
would be INTERESTING if one of the jc penneys reciepts was for a REPLACEMENT for .."ahem "  the bedding....


grim... just GRIM!

My thoughts also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:32:48 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.

He stated that water wouldn't have mattered.
Did he say he took the dogs down that way?

IIRC it was Dr Baden saying that.
Ah, gotcha!  I was not aware that he was involved in the dog search for Caylee.  I do think he is very good at what he does though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Shell on December 13, 2008, 11:33:44 PM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!

Lee didn't have bag stashed unless he had access to a freezer. He would have had the problem of the oder too had he stored the bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:35:11 PM
did casey bought a lot of ice?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:36:00 PM
I believe it was Dr Baden that stated if le had taken cadaver dogs down that street, they would have picked up on the scent as the body wasn't that far off the road.
At the time though were they not still juggling the 2 theories?  The one presented by Casey in regards to the Nanny story, and then the next fact which emerged being the trunk and its contents which moved the search mobile, away from the A's....why would they take the dogs down that far and to those woods based on the 2 theories they were facing and the locations they were looking at based on cell pings, the car, the nanny, the boyfriend, the tow yard, the amscott, and the dumpsters. 
By the time that anyone got remotely near that area, its had been raining, maybe not quite the hurricane type weather, but rain none-the-less as it was the start of rainy season in Florida.  Then all the hurricanes followed.
I stated way way way way back in the beginning threads that I believe Casey planned this around hurricane and the raining season, hoping it would wash away her evidence.

He stated that water wouldn't have mattered.
Did he say he took the dogs down that way?

IIRC it was Dr Baden saying that.
Ah, gotcha!  I was not aware that he was involved in the dog search for Caylee.  I do think he is very good at what he does though.

He wasn't involved in the search.  He was just answering questions proposed to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:36:18 PM
the area caylee was found is called as a wet land?
yes, its low lying and swampy although in the summer it is dry sometimes but when it rains it holds water for awhile due to the area.
Yes...Cecilita,  that could have been the reason for soil samples, and also the reason for the investigators to remove all the chemicals from the Anthony's house!!!!!!!!!!!
uhhh  come to think of it...it could also be the reason for them to remove  the pillow That Klaas posted from Caylees bed, when a child sleeps she usually slobbers on maybe they are checking to see if they can find  traces of chloraform in the stuffing of the pillow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:36:33 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 13, 2008, 11:36:41 PM
Jose Baez is such an ass.  So his story now is that Caylee is dead, but Zanaida took her from Casey at JB Park and killed her.  OK.  In order for this to be the defense, Casey will have to testify to it.  Baez can't do it, and neither can anyone else.  If someone says Casey told them this, it's hearsay and inadmissable.   The whole Zanaida story can only be admitted as evidence if Casey takes the stand and tells it.  I don't think even Baez is dumb enough to put Casey on the stand.  She can't keep to one story for a minute, much less under cross-examination.  I'd kind of like to see it, though.


It's impossible for the defense to prove their is a Zanny. no phone number, no one seen her,
no calls in or out for a Zanny and no pictures of Zanny with Casey or Caylee.. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:36:47 PM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!

You may be on to something Dolce!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/anxious/14.gif) Sorry just how this case me feel some days!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:37:07 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

Yep.  They were on the list one time.   I thought the same thing when I read that rumor. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:37:47 PM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!
it is possible because they went with the kidnapping theory and lee dissapear for long time...I think that he did something bad and let his parents to be the attention of the case when he was doing somethin else


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Dolce on December 13, 2008, 11:38:09 PM
He wasn't involved in the search.  He was just answering questions proposed to him.
Ok then. LOL  Way to confuse me!  LOL  j/k not your fault I am tired.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:39:29 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: mammy on December 13, 2008, 11:39:50 PM
He wasn't involved in the search.  He was just answering questions proposed to him.
Ok then. LOL  Way to confuse me!  LOL  j/k not your fault I am tired.

np lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:42:12 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 13, 2008, 11:42:58 PM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie
What a fabulous idea! 
I just returned from my Dad's house for Weekend Dinner, I enjoyed spending time with my siblings who still live at home and who range in age from 5 -11.  They were jumping around the Christmas tree showing me their different ornaments they hung, how proud they were that this ornament was "theirs".  It was so very adorable.  It would be an honor for Caylee to have an ornament on our trees here at my house, I think I will pick a few up at the Halmark store tomorrow.
Dinner topic with my father and step mom was that of the find of Caylee after we sent the little ones off to watch the "Twelve Dogs of Christmas" with chocolate cake.  My Dad gave his personal perspective as a Sherrif on the details thus far, and even agreed that the parents should have charges brought forth against them.

Thanks for participating Dolce!  I know just turning the lights on and saying this is your tree Caylee has helped me divert some of the anger. 
You have an email from me coming via a mutual friend - but let me say here, for the record - that I own that mess at the end of the last thread.  I am still sensitive about that road trip site and then the news of them finding a child - and while not an excuse, I know I took out my anger and assumed you were digging on me the other day.  So, I humbly apologize for going CINDY on ya!  Hugs!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:44:05 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
Dont get me wrong, I hate the Anthony's as much as anybody, but I believe when Le contacted them about these remains it was a defferent matter then  when the stuff was found at the park.  We all saw what happened that day, the whole thing was over in a matter of minutes, they dismissed it pretty quickly and there was no body....this so different with the body and all the police and news hounds and everything, just saying more beleivable and it was LE telling them, not LP and some divers..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:44:22 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there

That sounds about right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: heykim on December 13, 2008, 11:46:05 PM
oh man...
i take a few moments break from this case, turn on my favorite movie.. ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE..

and WHAT are the FIRST words i HEAR???


"BEFORE WE GO CHLOROFORMING THE SAVINGS AND LOAN...""


that was FREAKY... FREAKY FREAKY...


i mean.. it didnt even make SENSE to say that ... and yet.. there it was...

odd


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 11:46:32 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I don't know about chloroform ::MonkeyHaHa:: but I know that no mothball or cleaning sprays would keep one of my Jack Russells away from any kind of meat.  Just think of all the stray cats and homeless dogs......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 13, 2008, 11:47:28 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

maybe she didnt know, and ordered the tampons expecting to need them, and then found out she was late.  maybe baez is the dad, j/k thats a sick and scary thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 11:48:16 PM
Yes Dolce, I remember tampons being on her list of purchases.  I was saying a small thank you, that is why I remember.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:48:20 PM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...
I don't know about chloroform ::MonkeyHaHa:: but I know that no mothball or cleaning sprays would keep one of my Jack Russells away from any kind of meat.  Just think of all the stray cats and homeless dogs......
well it keeps the dogs in my neighborhood away from my garbage cans until they are picked up......and Im sure chloraform is much stronger.....just saying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:48:57 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:49:35 PM
casey always been very specific with the days that she havent seen her daughter. Maybe she kept her body in a freezer or a cold water just to prove that she was killed after the day she said was last day that she and G&C saw the baby


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 13, 2008, 11:49:51 PM
"Before the body farm at Tennessee, there was not much known about the decomposition process,'' said Mary Manhein, a professor of forensic anthropology at Louisiana State University and a fellow at the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. "I have always felt we need more than one place for a model to better understand the whole process.''

Bass believes there is a need for a second location because it is critical to study decay in different climates. "This is research that is extremely vital to society, science and law enforcement,'' he said.

The Midwest offers a flat and open landscape exposed to wind, rain, sun, snow and extreme temperature shifts. It also offers an entirely new spectrum of plants, rodents and bugs, whose life cycle can provide clues to when someone was killed or the body was dumped. ::MonkeyShocked::



http://www.livescience.com/health/ap_051128_body_farm.html (http://www.livescience.com/health/ap_051128_body_farm.html)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:49:57 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 11:50:19 PM
As much as the Scamthonys disgust me, I don't believe the GP knew where the baby was. Lee, that ugly inbred looking mongrel, is another story. It is difficult for me to determine his exact involvement due to the extreme amount of pathology within this sick family..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:50:50 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey I see you, but especially because I thought you had stolen me and put me in your quote....that was my halloween avatar..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 13, 2008, 11:51:47 PM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Searching on December 13, 2008, 11:51:56 PM
http://scienceandresearch.homeoffice.gov.uk/hosdb/publications/fingerprint-publications/09-07_-_Fingerprints_Powder.pdf?view=Binary


http://www.csigizmos.com/classes/unusual_surface_handout.pdf

I seen a lot of finger print/duct tape discussion and here are 2 sites about fingerprinting for anyone interested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:52:08 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh::

I knew that would get someones attention!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: IBE on December 13, 2008, 11:52:24 PM
ME and others did say the house.  Agree.  But that stick looks like molding to me.  I enlarged it and there is a notch routed out on the back side. 

Perhaps LE have noticed a piece of molding missing from some where in the Anthony house?

I hope the bag was just full of all sorts of clues and items to connect the crime to the perpetrator.



Anna! What a great find.

Molding used to cover the nail in a kick plate (what is under kitchen cabinets, bath cabinets, and some furniture, where you toes go under) has a right angle on one side that sits on the floor and rounded on the top.

Picture frame molding and in crafts usually have rounded sides on both sides.

Have a headache but will look at your picts again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:53:30 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh::

I knew that would get someones attention!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Gee  Quiet Monkey...you sure are loud!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 11:53:36 PM
As much as the Scamthonys disgust me, I don't believe the GP knew where the baby was. Lee, that ugly inbred looking mongrel, is another story. It is difficult for me to determine his exact involvement due to the extreme amount of pathology within this sick family..

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I like this post!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 13, 2008, 11:55:14 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey I see you, but especially because I thought you had stolen me and put me in your quote....that was my halloween avatar..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't steal you hh, I got you from here:

http://www.messengerfreak.com/halloween_emoticons.php?dir_path=emoticons/halloween/&page=3

I'm not a thieving monkey! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: IBE on December 13, 2008, 11:56:32 PM
When I first saw the Greta tape the camera was pointed at the floor where a rug or tile come together under a door.... the molding color didn't go with the rest of the decor. I remembered, IMO, that the kitchen cabinets were a light color and this was dark molding. You can buy it in one piece or us 3 pieces to make one.. a rectangle piece of wood to go from door jam to door jam and glue or tack nail molding to it so you don't fall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 13, 2008, 11:56:33 PM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Shell on December 13, 2008, 11:57:03 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

maybe she didnt know, and ordered the tampons expecting to need them, and then found out she was late.  maybe baez is the dad, j/k thats a sick and scary thought.

Speaking of sick and scarey thoughts, Casey harmed her daughter IMHO, which is a sick and scarey thought in and of itself, so anything is possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 13, 2008, 11:57:03 PM
As much as the Scamthonys disgust me, I don't believe the GP knew where the baby was. Lee, that ugly inbred looking mongrel, is another story. It is difficult for me to determine his exact involvement due to the extreme amount of pathology within this sick family..

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I like this post!!
Thanks Monken!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sometimes it's better when i try not to over edit what i say.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 13, 2008, 11:57:14 PM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey I see you, but especially because I thought you had stolen me and put me in your quote....that was my halloween avatar..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't steal you hh, I got you from here:

http://www.messengerfreak.com/halloween_emoticons.php?dir_path=emoticons/halloween/&page=3

I'm not a thieving monkey! ::MonkeyRoll::
well it was figure of speach, like I was all of a sudden at the top of your quote...........I know where he came from .....thats where I stole him from... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 13, 2008, 11:57:46 PM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.

Actually, on GR tonight, they showed Lee picking up the memorial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 13, 2008, 11:59:01 PM
As much as the Scamthonys disgust me, I don't believe the GP knew where the baby was. Lee, that ugly inbred looking mongrel, is another story. It is difficult for me to determine his exact involvement due to the extreme amount of pathology within this sick family..

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I like this post!!
Thanks Monken!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sometimes it's better when i try not to over edit what i say.. ::MonkeyHaHa::

but but but I am Mytime!! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: cecilita on December 13, 2008, 11:59:57 PM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

maybe she didnt know, and ordered the tampons expecting to need them, and then found out she was late.  maybe baez is the dad, j/k thats a sick and scary thought.

Speaking of sick and scarey thoughts, Casey harmed her daughter IMHO, which is a sick and scarey thought in and of itself, so anything is possible.
THE POLICE can check if she used them...she should have them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 14, 2008, 12:00:17 AM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

Maybe George just had to pee - just an ideal!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 12:01:00 AM
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: OMG...so sorry.. I know its bedtime for me now!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:01:24 AM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.

Actually, on GR tonight, they showed Lee picking up the memorial.
I think Im gonna call my cousin that lives in Orlando and ask her to make a memorial out of poison ivy and poison oak and go set it up in the same place....then I hope and pray Lee goes and picks that one up......stupid azz!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 12:01:26 AM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

Maybe George just had to pee - just an ideal!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Shell on December 14, 2008, 12:01:27 AM

I have known plenty of bright, normal, intelligent and very nice bushy browed gentlemen. What is the big deal? I just do not get the criticism of something many men can't change, unless they pluck them. Which is an entirely different man altogether. Although there is nothing wrong with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 12:01:34 AM
OMG, I'm a ghost monkey again, no one can see me! (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/halloween/sheetghost.gif)

I'm here, I'm here! See me!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Ok, sorry!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hey I see you, but especially because I thought you had stolen me and put me in your quote....that was my halloween avatar..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I didn't steal you hh, I got you from here:

http://www.messengerfreak.com/halloween_emoticons.php?dir_path=emoticons/halloween/&page=3

I'm not a thieving monkey! ::MonkeyRoll::
well it was figure of speach, like I was all of a sudden at the top of your quote...........I know where he came from .....thats where I stole him from... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: This funny kitty is from there too!

(http://www.messengerfreak.com/display_pictures/animals/CatLaugh.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:02:58 AM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

maybe she didnt know, and ordered the tampons expecting to need them, and then found out she was late.  maybe baez is the dad, j/k thats a sick and scary thought.

Speaking of sick and scarey thoughts, Casey harmed her daughter IMHO, which is a sick and scarey thought in and of itself, so anything is possible.
THE POLICE can check if she used them...she should have them
Im sure there are a couple of cops that casey would let check to see if she has used them...... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 12:03:00 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends before I pass out.. I am feeling sickly too.. i am sure it has nothing to do with the 1/2 bag of chocolate i ate 2 hrs ago..burp.. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 14, 2008, 12:03:42 AM
I think that the Anthony's actions thus far are enough PROOF that it is Caylee, and that they KNEW where she was and was covering for Casey.  Lets just compare their actions in regards to LP's find versus this find.
LP's find...deny deny deny 
This find...coming home from CA and NOT talking to media! (GASP!!)

LP's find...do not do a memorial 
This find...Casey did not do it, it had to of been someone else.  STOP there...why the sudden need to cover for Casey, its not even proven to be Caylee yet.

Exactly!    C&G have blown their cover.   To me, it proves they knew Caylee was there, all the time.    jmo.
George went to the wooded area because he knew that cayle was not there and he wanted TIM to believe she was there
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

Maybe George just had to pee - just an ideal!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

oops sorry - I mean idea!!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 12:03:56 AM
Just read on another site that NE is saying that KC is prenant.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

God, please don't let that be true!


Yes, I read this in a magazine just today also,   it was a article that said Casey was always telling everbody in the jail that Caylee would just love a little sister to play with and crap like that, the jail personel was saying it was real erie hearing her talk like that!
Where tampons not listed on her list of commessary purchases though?

maybe she didnt know, and ordered the tampons expecting to need them, and then found out she was late.  maybe baez is the dad, j/k thats a sick and scary thought.

Speaking of sick and scarey thoughts, Casey harmed her daughter IMHO, which is a sick and scarey thought in and of itself, so anything is possible.
THE POLICE can check if she used them...she should have them
Im sure there are a couple of cops that casey would let check to see if she has used them...... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 12:04:32 AM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.

Actually, on GR tonight, they showed Lee picking up the memorial.
I think Im gonna call my cousin that lives in Orlando and ask her to make a memorial out of poison ivy and poison oak and go set it up in the same place....then I hope and pray Lee goes and picks that one up......stupid azz!!!!!!!!

(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/happy/6.gif) (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/happy/6.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mytime on December 14, 2008, 12:04:39 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends before I pass out.. I am feeling sickly too.. i am sure it has nothing to do with the 1/2 bag of chocolate i ate 2 hrs ago..burp.. ::MonkeyEek::

Good night Flamom!!!  Sweet dreams!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 12:05:00 AM
I believe before casey went to jail she was tested for pregnacy. It should be a policy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 12:05:27 AM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.

Actually, on GR tonight, they showed Lee picking up the memorial.

Thanks Sassy, again, the DH is in charge of the remote, so we watched Mission Impossible, so I was just following what the monkeys said about the show. I guess now I will have to try and watch it when somebody posts it on Youtube. Ugh, I dread that thought.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 14, 2008, 12:05:37 AM
Goodnight Flamom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 14, 2008, 12:05:56 AM
Monkeys just stopping in befor I go to bed and I know there has been a lot of questions about that pillow in the bag....

Here is a close up of it, as good as I can get...

You can see the video on this link and I think it is clearer when you watch the video...

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/12/12/ng.crime.scene.cnn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 12:06:01 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends before I pass out.. I am feeling sickly too.. i am sure it has nothing to do with the 1/2 bag of chocolate i ate 2 hrs ago..burp.. ::MonkeyEek::
wooww


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 12:06:17 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends before I pass out.. I am feeling sickly too.. i am sure it has nothing to do with the 1/2 bag of chocolate i ate 2 hrs ago..burp.. ::MonkeyEek::

night night flamom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends before I pass out.. I am feeling sickly too.. i am sure it has nothing to do with the 1/2 bag of chocolate i ate 2 hrs ago..burp.. ::MonkeyEek::

night night flamom!
How can you sleep with too much sugar and cafeine...i hope you will feel better...see ya ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: IBE on December 14, 2008, 12:07:49 AM
Sometimes you can buy what looks like molding but it has a "canal" (I can't think of the right word here) but it's an area you can run your computer cable et all through.

Then again, I have plastic fake molding that has a that in the back and some wood that does not.

Lessen learned.. nail in molding tight in a trailer... if not an earthquake can flip it out with a big bang.

End of molding rant ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JOYJOY on December 14, 2008, 12:08:06 AM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.

No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.

I have to wonder if maybe this time the running out of gas was just a ruse. I only say that because these were woods she was somewhat familiar with according to Kio, so maybe she thought it would be good to pretend to run out of gas there in case anyone saw her. She calls Tony, he picks her up walking in her neighborhood (couldn't have been too far from the house) he takes her to get the cans, but IIRC, doesn't follow her or anything after.   Now what day was that? And does someone remember exactly what happened after they get the cans........?


Sorry i am alittle behind ....but i remember the neighbor who lent Casey the shovel said --anyway(I think)he said  the next day after casey borrowed the shovel ...he saw casey in a small truck or jeep type vehicle pull up in front of her house .and he couldn't tell who was driving the ...maybe the day you are talking about when she ran out of gas...  just an idea


anyway hello monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 14, 2008, 12:09:16 AM
Lee had better get used to people leaving things as a memorial for Caylee. If they choose to have her cremated, then the sight where she was found will be the place, if she is buried it will be there. He honestly can't run around Orlando ripping up flowers and stuffed animals forever. What a complete dufus. No one is at the house, so what was it hurting? Was that just his personal statement that it isn't Caylee?  I wish we had the video of it, instead of just the news print.

Actually, on GR tonight, they showed Lee picking up the memorial.

Thanks Sassy, again, the DH is in charge of the remote, so we watched Mission Impossible, so I was just following what the monkeys said about the show. I guess now I will have to try and watch it when somebody posts it on Youtube. Ugh, I dread that thought.  ::MonkeyConfused::
Orchid - it replays here on EST at 1am.  You can record or DVR it if you have those options!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 12:11:31 AM
This monkey is tired! Good night sweet monkeys!

(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/hobbies/sleeping/7.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 14, 2008, 12:11:58 AM
Night Flamom !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: misitx5 on December 14, 2008, 12:12:40 AM
This monkey is tired! Good night sweet monkeys!

(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/hobbies/sleeping/7.gif)

Night Quietmonkey I love your smiley pic


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:14:16 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 12:14:46 AM
Thanks News, no DVR yet, but I am getting one for Christmas (shhhh it is a surprise and quiet monkey is trying to sleep!)

Nite to all the monkeys hitting the bunk!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 12:15:31 AM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....
Good evening, all!  HH- Good thinking!  Cindy described the car as full of clothes, shoes, pizza box, etc. when they got it from impound.  Because Casey was "between homes" she had to have been living out of that car somewhat...it wouldn't have been the cleanest or neatest.  I'm guessing the trunk wouldn't have been the neatest either.  I think you're onto something-maybe Casey did just throw in whatever trash got "leaked" on into the trash bag.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:17:43 AM
Hey  didnt I see or hear that one of the things that the LE took out of the Anthony's home was paper...............if the answer is yes...then remember when the doc dumps came out and casey had wrote onthat piece of paper over and over again like Casey Lassaro and stuff like that...........................I wonder if they found some of that paper in the bag with the remains, Im sure that casey put everything that the remains might have leaked on in that bag and threw it in the same area with them......Maybe she even wrote the fake script and put it in the bag to.....
Good evening, all!  HH- Good thinking!  Cindy described the car as full of clothes, shoes, pizza box, etc. when they got it from impound.  Because Casey was "between homes" she had to have been living out of that car somewhat...it wouldn't have been the cleanest or neatest.  I'm guessing the trunk wouldn't have been the neatest either.  I think you're onto something-maybe Casey did just throw in whatever trash got "leaked" on into the trash bag.  JMO
Yep  my thooughts exactly and thats why the LE said that there was stuff in the bag that took them back to the Anthony's..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 14, 2008, 12:17:54 AM
Parents may eventually face charges -

http://www.wftv.com/news/18267413/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sassycat on December 14, 2008, 12:19:36 AM
Parents may eventually face charges -

http://www.wftv.com/news/18267413/detail.html



Opps.   Sorry.   I thought this was a new report.   I need to go to bed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Shell on December 14, 2008, 12:20:46 AM

Good night and sweet dreams.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:21:54 AM

Good night and sweet dreams.
Goodnight!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Fuzzball on December 14, 2008, 12:23:17 AM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!

Love your posts always. Think your theory is pretty convincing, actually.

Regardless of when the bag was placed, though, Caylee's still been dead the same length of time, and they'll be able to tell that by testing what they've got. So just moving the bag won't get her off the hook even if they expected it to. I think Casey's outta luck this time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 12:25:00 AM
And the Anthonys now have to face their demons.  The day will come soon when the phone will ring and the coroner will explain gently that he has completed his examination of the body, and will they please come and claim it.  Another day will come when someone will knock on the door, perhaps with summons to come to court and perhaps testify about their own child. And the long days of photos and science theories of the tiny child they watched being born will come to pass.  A jury of Caseys peers will sit in judgement of thier youngest child, and maybe they will be told after the gavel drops for the final time, you may say goodbye to Casey, please do not touch her or hug her. 

Always 1-excellent post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 12:25:48 AM
Goodnight to the monkeys going to bed
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on December 14, 2008, 12:27:51 AM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

I will be addressing this lame premise that the defense will try and attempt. It is actually one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Incidentally, according to my sources their was an indentation in the ground where the bag was and little growing under it. It had been there a while.

If Casey had an accomplice, why in the heck would they have placed Caylee w/in 3/10th of a mile from home when they could have brought her 100's of miles away? Who in their right mind in one of the most covered missing person cases would go back to an area where people would be on the look out to dispose a body?

The answer is, they would not.

The defense can try as they might all their BS ... their client will be found guilty.

The defenses only job at this point is to keep a needle out of her arm.


Agree, Red.  Last place kidnappers would be is in the Anthony's neighborhood.  I think Casey ran out of gasoline with the remains in the car and was forced to dump them in a hurry.

No accomplice or kidnapper is going to be lurking around in the area they are most likely to be apprehended when there is a big, wide world out there.

I have to wonder if maybe this time the running out of gas was just a ruse. I only say that because these were woods she was somewhat familiar with according to Kio, so maybe she thought it would be good to pretend to run out of gas there in case anyone saw her. She calls Tony, he picks her up walking in her neighborhood (couldn't have been too far from the house) he takes her to get the cans, but IIRC, doesn't follow her or anything after.   Now what day was that? And does someone remember exactly what happened after they get the cans........?


Sorry i am alittle behind ....but i remember the neighbor who lent Casey the shovel said --anyway(I think)he said  the next day after casey borrowed the shovel ...he saw casey in a small truck or jeep type vehicle pull up in front of her house .and he couldn't tell who was driving the ...maybe the day you are talking about when she ran out of gas...  just an idea


anyway hello monkeys!!!


June 23rd Casey ran out of gas and called Tony- car ran out of gas in her neighborhood.
Tony broke into the shed and got the gas cans and dropped Casey off to her car- May be a ploy .. May be that was the day Casey put Caylee in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 12:29:00 AM
This monkey is tired! Good night sweet monkeys!

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omg, i promise I didnt see your sleepy pic before I posted mine.  What a coincidence  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 14, 2008, 12:31:24 AM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!

This idea brought tears to my eyes, it is so incredibly thoughtful. However I think I must be the only Jewish monkey on this board. Last night my family and I went to Temple and said the Jewish Mourner's prayer for Caylee, it was very emotional and moving for us. I will ask my boys (ages 11, 14, and 17) what we can do during Hanukkah to honor and remember her. Thanks for the idea.

Princess Monkey,
Another idea I have is to donate a toy to Toys for Tots or and organization maybe that helps parents with Hanukkah (even a synagogue) to give to a child.  I am going to make my toy, for a three year old girl.  Just a thought, let us know what you guys do.  I know I feel better doing something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: janetruth on December 14, 2008, 12:34:05 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:36:20 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Florida grass (Bermuda grass) appears to be strong and hard but it isnt.  A path can be made within only a few days.  So not convinced about the worn spot from the bag.  But not sure if it was moved either!  Oh, I don't know!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

My husband left a pile of leaves laying in our back yard for 2 days - our grass yellowed and died and we are talking temps of 40 degrees.  I don't think the grass/weeds would take too long in the Florida heat to die.  Something else I've been thinking about; I can't even put my trash cans out the night before trash day without the lids, or animals will tear through everything and leave a scattered mess.  I just don't see how Caylee has been out in the open without her bones being scattered a good distance if she has been out there for a long period of time. ::MonkeyConfused::
ok  but lets just say that inside the bag was also a cloth with cloraform on it on several clothes maybe, Animals wouldnt come too close to that and if they did when they sniffed it they would leave it alone!....like mothballs , if you put them around outside your home here in Florida, thats what we use them for ...every year my son takes two boxes and scatteres themaround our fence line and the smell keeps raccoons and opposums and especially snakes away from our home...

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.
Yes it would!.....it doesnt hurt ot put them around your yard, you never know what they will keep from coming around! we do it all the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 12:36:20 AM
When I watched the video it looked like there was maybe some sort of bedding in one of those bags. Maybe she used a pillowcase, sheet, or something to tie her hands and/or feet with. That could have been something that they could "match" with the house.


I am starting to wonder if she didn't return to the scene to add the duct tape and rope, or something to tie her up with, after she comes up with the kidnapping idea. Maybe that is the day she went to Jesse's to take a shower, not after she killed her, but after she altered the scene. She may have also removed Caylee's clothes and put them in that dumpster that the dogs hit at, which is why she said something about them not finding her clothes. Well of course not, you put them in two different spots, or maybe multiple spots......




Now, you've got me wondering if Casey had a second trash bag with Caylee's clothes, that she disposed of in the dumpster.  Or maybe a second trash bag with her own "dirty clothes" that were in her duffel bag she carried into Jessie's on shower day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 14, 2008, 12:38:33 AM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!

This idea brought tears to my eyes, it is so incredibly thoughtful. However I think I must be the only Jewish monkey on this board. Last night my family and I went to Temple and said the Jewish Mourner's prayer for Caylee, it was very emotional and moving for us. I will ask my boys (ages 11, 14, and 17) what we can do during Hanukkah to honor and remember her. Thanks for the idea.

Princess Monkey,
Another idea I have is to donate a toy to Toys for Tots or and organization maybe that helps parents with Hanukkah (even a synagogue) to give to a child.  I am going to make my toy, for a three year old girl.  Just a thought, let us know what you guys do.  I know I feel better doing something.

That's a good idea News!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Blumonkey on December 14, 2008, 12:39:34 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
Yes and then she would be free to start a new life in California!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 12:45:06 AM
will the coroners findings be made public (ie, cause of death if that can be determined) before the trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: higherhopes on December 14, 2008, 12:46:09 AM
OK  Monkeys.....Im off to bed.............hope we hear something soon.......like uhh   the Anthony's are gonna be sharing the cell next to Caseys in the near future if they dont stop being jackazzez and do right by Caylee........that Lee Anthony tore up one too many memorials that people put up for precious Caylee and some Biker Chick got mad and beat the sh!t out of him......And that big bertha from the jail found a way into Caseys cell and showed her just what happens to sorry ass baby killers.......Now if those three stories will be in the Headlines when I wake up, I will be happy happy happy........................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Searching on December 14, 2008, 12:47:00 AM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!

This idea brought tears to my eyes, it is so incredibly thoughtful. However I think I must be the only Jewish monkey on this board. Last night my family and I went to Temple and said the Jewish Mourner's prayer for Caylee, it was very emotional and moving for us. I will ask my boys (ages 11, 14, and 17) what we can do during Hanukkah to honor and remember her. Thanks for the idea.

Princess Monkey,
Another idea I have is to donate a toy to Toys for Tots or and organization maybe that helps parents with Hanukkah (even a synagogue) to give to a child.  I am going to make my toy, for a three year old girl.  Just a thought, let us know what you guys do.  I know I feel better doing something.

I bought gifts for 3 little girls and a little boy in honor of Caylee this year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 14, 2008, 12:50:38 AM
I have a favor to ask everyone...

As a single gal, I wasn't even gonna mess with a Christmas Tree this year, but thinking of Caylee without one and that the first gift of Christmas was a child; I decided to put my tree up and place my "The Children are the future" ornament on it. 
So, in honor of Caylee can everyone with a tree hang an ornament for Caylee.  If you don't do Christmas, can you paint or draw a "sunshine" and hang it on a window.  Since we all know her from singing that song. 
Thanks,
Junkie

I think I will stop in at the disney store tomorrow while I am at the mall and buy a special princess ornament just for Caylee. Thanks news, what a nice thought, thanks for sharing.

Thanks to all who are participating!  And Orchid, she liked Monkeys too!  I know just putting my tree up and lighting it up has made me feel a tad better - like I am sending her light and love with the brilliant lights.  Thanks all!

This idea brought tears to my eyes, it is so incredibly thoughtful. However I think I must be the only Jewish monkey on this board. Last night my family and I went to Temple and said the Jewish Mourner's prayer for Caylee, it was very emotional and moving for us. I will ask my boys (ages 11, 14, and 17) what we can do during Hanukkah to honor and remember her. Thanks for the idea.

Princess Monkey,
Another idea I have is to donate a toy to Toys for Tots or and organization maybe that helps parents with Hanukkah (even a synagogue) to give to a child.  I am going to make my toy, for a three year old girl.  Just a thought, let us know what you guys do.  I know I feel better doing something.

I bought gifts for 3 little girls and a little boy in honor of Caylee this year.
Great!!!!!!!!  So, if I can't stop at one, I won't have to feel bad!  Thanks!!!!!!!!!   When I start typo's like "or and organization" instead of AN organization, it tells me time for bed.  Night HH and others heading off now!  I have toy shopping sleeping to do! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 12:52:40 AM

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.

Did you get a new pair of boots out of that deal?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Bud's Girl on December 14, 2008, 12:54:02 AM
OK  Monkeys.....Im off to bed.............hope we hear something soon.......like uhh   the Anthony's are gonna be sharing the cell next to Caseys in the near future if they dont stop being jackazzez and do right by Caylee........that Lee Anthony tore up one too many memorials that people put up for precious Caylee and some Biker Chick got mad and beat the sh!t out of him......And that big bertha from the jail found a way into Caseys cell and showed her just what happens to sorry ass baby killers.......Now if those three stories will be in the Headlines when I wake up, I will be happy happy happy........................

Those kinds of thoughts would give me nightmares, but I guess whatever floats your boat ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 12:55:36 AM
OK  Monkeys.....Im off to bed.............hope we hear something soon.......like uhh   the Anthony's are gonna be sharing the cell next to Caseys in the near future if they dont stop being jackazzez and do right by Caylee........that Lee Anthony tore up one too many memorials that people put up for precious Caylee and some Biker Chick got mad and beat the sh!t out of him......And that big bertha from the jail found a way into Caseys cell and showed her just what happens to sorry ass baby killers.......Now if those three stories will be in the Headlines when I wake up, I will be happy happy happy........................
That would be so nice!!!  I would even do a Mapquest for them if they need it from the Ritz to the Correctional Facility. Since they haven't been to see Casey, they may not know there way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 14, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
You know, I was getting ready for bed, thinking about getting toys in honor of Caylee - and horrible thought occurred to me:  I sure hope they unwrapped those "gifts" Cindy showed off to Greta and others, to make sure they were gifts.
Ugggggggg,
Junkie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: janetruth on December 14, 2008, 01:01:11 AM

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.

Did you get a new pair of boots out of that deal?


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wish!

What I got was an inoperable cat door (had to permanently close it), and so now I'm reduced to being the cats' door person.

Oh, well.  Sux to be me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Sea Searcher on December 14, 2008, 01:04:16 AM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
That's so sad. How old is she? She sure sounds like a very loving little girl.
she is 6, she saw early news tha caylee was missing and new that the mother could do something bad to caylee but she does not know that caylee is dead i do not know how to explain her that caylee is dead i know she will ask me if casey killed caylee ...i do not what to say because she was asking lately why moms hurt babies.....I do not what to tell her....she will cry ....she got a princess dress for her bunny because the picture that she saw of caylee is with the princess dress...

Finally caught up !  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Now it's time to say Good Night Monkeys  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Cicilita...I'm a similar situation with my six yr old.... she's been asking me if Caylee has been found and now, thanks to my 10 yr old (who may not make it to 11) she now knows that Caylee's gone.. she doesn't know that her mum killed her and I don't think I will tell her if I can possibly avoid it.. She asks me if the police have caught the "bad man" who did it.. (we guys always take the rap) so I'll leave it there for now if I can. Six year olds shouldn't have to think about such things  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 01:06:16 AM
I think Casey flipped in a fit of rage, taped Caylees mouth shut and either beat her or chloroformed her.  Personnaly I think she beat her or strangled her.  Sorry, it's painful but she is that NUTS!!!  I think she dumped her close to home to let out more rage.  Like here she is mom and dad.  I'm going out to party!!! 
I don't this could have happened at the A's on the night of the 15th or early a.m. 16th.  Think about how hard it is to get a 2-yr-old dressed when they don't want to-screaming, crying, arms & legs flying everywhere.  Now, imagine trying to wrap same wriggling, crying, screaming child's mouth with sticky duct tape.  Definitely, would have brought someone in a hurry.  Now, if said child were chloroformed first, it would be easy.  But if said child was unconscious and murder was your intention, you'd know they weren't going to be making any sounds again (therefore duct tape would be unnecessary).
I'm thinking she chloroformed the child and drowned her in the tub and then applied the duct tape.  JMO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 01:08:38 AM

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.

Did you get a new pair of boots out of that deal?

::MonkeyLaugh::  Hi neighbor!!!!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 01:09:52 AM
my little girl still looking for cayleee..last week we went to builderbear and she got a bunny and called her Caylee....after that i went to another store and she found a magnifier(is is the name?) and i found her looking inside a big las if caylee was there....she was asking...little caylee are you there? i felt so bad...now I do not how to explain that caylee is not more with us.
Cecilita- I am going to tell our child the truth.  Caylee has been found and she's playing with Jesus in Heaven.  She snuggles up on God's lap and has lots of new children to play with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:15:08 AM
Did Lee really move the memorial items? Can I please have the link?

FBI Team Spent Saturday At Anthony Search Scene
Saturday, December 13, 2008 – updated: 6:27 pm EST December 13, 2008


Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 01:16:57 AM
I'm just watching the rerun of Geraldo.

I am SO glad that the prosecution has been able to handle things like they are. I'm SO glad that the defense was not allowed to observe the crime scene!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 01:17:14 AM

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.

Did you get a new pair of boots out of that deal?

::MonkeyLaugh::  Hi neighbor!!!!   

Hey back to you. I was hoping to get to see you. Do you know where on the map the closest cell tower is to the Anthony's and the school, and this location where Caylee was found?  Silly question. I know you know, now I am wondering if you could show us.... TIA, and only if you have time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:25:47 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

Didn't Tim say there was water? 


NANCY GRACE
Small Child`s Remains Found Near Anthony Home
Aired December 11, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Nancy, if you recall -- and I got a lot of criticism for calling the search off the first time, but we actually lost a four-wheeler back in this same exact area that one of the volunteers was on the four-wheeler and water went totally over it. And the next day is when I called the search off, and it`s the best choice I ever made because if you recall back then, I said, You know what? If this little girl is under the water and a horse steps on her or a four-wheeler goes over or even a person steps on her just thinking it`s some type of debris underneath the water, then we`ve jeopardized any future search efforts.

And then when we came back the second time, this water where she was found -- and I actually went right back to the scene with investigators a couple of hours ago. But this water was still high when we came back the second time. And a neighbor actually said it was about a week-and-a-half ago or two weeks at the most when the water receded enough that you could see anything there.

So this is an area that we tried to search. Weather conditions just would not allow it. And I will never, ever regret calling the search off at that time because we could have done far more damage than good if we had...

GRACE: Tim, I remember that very night -- I remember talking to you about that night on the show, asking you why you pulled out. And you made it very clear that you were so afraid that in all the water -- it was feet deep -- that you were afraid if Caylee`s remains were there, they would be ruined or scattered and would never be found. And boy, were you right, Tim Miller. You never made a better call in your life.

MILLER: Thank you.

<snipped>

GRACE: To Tim Miller, the director of Texas EquuSearch who has searched exhaustively for little Caylee, you know one of the first things the defense is going say is when it finally goes on trial, Texas EquuSearch searched this area, volunteer search police, search -- they didn`t see the bag, now the bag is suddenly here six months later. It was obviously put there while the tot mom was in jail.

MILLER: You know what? The bag was not put there later, Nancy. I was actually out there at that scene today. It wasn`t buried. It didn`t float up. You can see where the bag was actually laying on the ground. The weeds are very thick there so it didn`t float. It would have got caught up in something.

Whoever put that bag there pulled up alongside the road, threw the bag out there in that little weeded area. So there was no digging, there was no nothing. You can actually see in the grassy area where someone had sat there for a long period of time. So it was set there. It wasn`t buried. Trust me.

GRACE: So you can actually tell, and this is possible, everyone. You can tell if an object has been sitting on the grass for a long period of time. There`s not any grass under it, things have gotten on top of it and around it.

How could you tell, Tim, from looking at it that it had been there for a while?

MILLER: Well, you can tell that there was an indentation in the ground where something that -- you know that had a little bit of weight to it had laid there, kind of like if you would have put a log or something some place and six months later picked the log up, how there`s just a small indentation and the grass is dead underneath it.

And as wet as it`s been since the -- tropical storm came in, you know, it`s pretty obvious that it`s something that has been sitting there the entire time and it`s something that truly, Nancy, was not findable, had been under water and according to the neighbor it was a week and a half ago when the water receded enough to be able to see anything back there.

So you know, if it wouldn`t have been for that tropical storm, believe me, Caylee`s little remains would have been found a long, long time ago, but you know the good news is finally and finally.

GRACE: Some answers.

MILLER: . after this long period of time, she can come home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 01:26:05 AM
Where is everybody? Am I here all alone?    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: GramaMonkey on December 14, 2008, 01:27:17 AM
Lee Anthony arrived at the Anthony home and removed the memorial set up.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.htm


From Orlando Sentinel

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

Thanks Grama!

I can not open this link - never have trouble before!  I can't even find it on the web!  Can you repost it please!! or give me another link!!

Sorry, don't know why it would not open.  www.wftv.com
Here it is copied and pasted.

FBI Team Spent Saturday At Anthony Search Scene

Saturday, December 13, 2008 – updated: 6:27 pm EST December 13, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A larger FBI team returned Saturday to the scene where the remains of a small child were found near Caylee Marie Anthony's home. The team helped the Orange County Sheriff's Office process the crime scene and the area around it by sifting through buckets of dirt.

The Anthonys’ home was also a busy scene Saturday. Jose Baez and several others in the Casey Anthony defense team showed up at the home. It was Baez’s first chance to inspect the home where Sheriff’s investigators executed a search warrant this week.

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.


Orange County Sheriff's officials say evidence is mounting that the skull belongs to toddler Caylee Anthony. Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, reported the girl missing in July and was charged with first-degree murder before the remains were found.

A utility worker found the remains Thursday, about a half-mile from Anthony's home.

One of Anthony's attorneys said Friday that "anthropological measurements and hair color" of the remains matched Caylee.

The Orange County Medical Examiner's office and FBI forensics experts say it could be a week before conclusive DNA results are released.

George and Cindy Anthony spent Friday night away from their home for the second night in row.

"They want to be left alone," said their attorney, Brad Conway. "They want to grieve and go through the process without the publicity that's been focused on them so long."

There was no indication where the Anthonys stayed Friday night. Thursday, they had checked into the Ritz-Carlton for the night. They had not been allowed in their home because investigators were searching for more clues into the disappearance of their granddaughter, Caylee. Caylee's mother, Casey, is in the Orange County jail on charges she killed the 2-year-old child.

Detectives have told Casey's attorney that the body size and hair color of the remains recovered are similar to Caylee's and the discovery of the child's skull with duct tape on the mouth is telling a much more gruesome story.

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene and George and Cindy Anthony returned there in the afternoon for a short time(watch video | see images) after spending Thursday night at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel (see map).


911 CALL RELEASED OF SKULL REPORT

Friday afternoon, the Orange County Sheriff's Office released the 911 call made from the Orange County Utilities Emergency Dispatch to the Orange County 911 call center reporting the discovery of a human skull. The skull discovery was made around 9:30am Thursday by a meter reader relieving himself in the woods. He immediately called his boss, who called 911.

911 CALL: Discovery Of Human Skull

"This is Orange County Emergency Dispatch, we found a human skull," the 911 caller said.

"Oh, my gosh," the dispatcher responded.

The call lasted approximately two minutes.

"A skull we believe is human," the caller said.

"What's the location?" the dispatcher asked.

"It's right off of Suburban and Chickasaw in the Caylee Anthony area," the caller said.

"Ohhh," the dispatcher said. "Okay, if you can please try to stress to him to not draw attention to the area."

"Okay," the caller said.

"And that would be great just in case it is something. It may be nothing but just in case," the dispatcher said.

Eyewitness News has learned that man who found the skull, an Orange County water meter reader, may be eligible for the reward.


DUCT TAPE ON MOUTH OF CHILD'S REMAINS

Investigators collected evidence at the Anthony home well into the early morning hours of Friday. They pulled out bags of evidence (watch raw video).

EVIDENCE REMOVED: Watch Raw Video | See Images

Investigative teams at the discovery site Friday were taking buckets of dirt from the area where the trash bag and remains were found and were sifting through by hand looking for any other evidence. Investigators were cutting through brush and tree limbs near the scene of the remains discovery looking for fibers and hair. Blue tents were erected and a white sheet was laid out near the search area.

Apparently, the bag the remains were found in was open and in water for some time, so other evidence might have floated out. Eyewitness News also learned that the child found could have suffered terrifying last moments. Investigative sources told Eyewitness News duct tape was found still stuck to the child's mouth.

Internationally-respected forensics pathologist Michael Baden told Eyewitness News on Friday that duct tape could have been used to suffocate or silence someone and prevent them from screaming, which means the child could have suffered traumatic injury.

The remains that were found were not just bones. There was tissue left, which apparently is what the duct tape was stuck to, and hair. The hair is said to be consistent in color to Caylee's hair and the body size consistent with the size of Caylee's body, according to information the sheriff's office provided Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

Dr. Michael Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it's waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape. He said he would expect there to be some hair as well and said the hair, tissue and bone marrow can be tested for chemicals and could hold the answer to whether chloroform or any other chemical was used to kill the child.

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.


CASEY'S PARENTS MAY EVENTUALLY FACE CHARGES

Sources close to the case told Eyewitness News that Casey's parents, George and Cindy, may someday face criminal charges. Those sources said the sheriff's office is looking into charging the Anthonys with obstruction of justice.

The Anthonys have spent months insisting Caylee is alive, but with the news of the remains, their attorney, Brad Conway, said they are prepared to accept Caylee may be dead.

"They are realistic about the possibilities and about the fact that this is likely Caylee, but continue to pray that likely it's not," Conway said.

In the meantime, sources told Eyewitness News investigators are building a case against the Anthonys. They may face obstructions of justice charges.

Conway said he's talked to the State Attorney's Office and is not aware of any pending charges and maintains the Anthonys have done nothing wrong.

"Anytime the sheriff's office cordons your house and serves a search warrant, there are a potential for charges. I don't know what the sheriff's office has in mind, but the Anthonys have cooperated fully and will continue to cooperate," Conway said.


BAEZ'S MOTION PARTIALLY DENIED FRIDAY

Casey Anthony's attorney tried and failed Friday to get access to the remains. He asked for an emergency hearing (read motion) right after Eyewitness News broke the news of the discovery Thursday.



"We believe there is certainly enough of an indication right now [that the remains could be Caylee's] for us to come here with a motion for an inspection of preservation," said attorney Linda Kenney-Baden, part of Jose Baez's team, after their motion to observe the autopsy was denied early Friday afternoon (watch attorneys speak). Kenney-Baden is the wife of forensics pathologist Michael Baden.

The new attorney was introduced Friday, arguing an accused killer's legal team should witness the autopsy.

"This is all an attempt to make sure that our client's due process rights are protected, that we get the information sooner, not later," Kenney-Baden said in court.

The Medical Examiner's Office considered Jose Baez's attempt to interfere in the autopsy ill-advised, saying Florida's public policies don't allow it; an autopsy is a private, dignified right of the deceased not to be hawked over by lawyers.

"I would suggest the court not allow something as egregious as allowing strangers to be present for the autopsy of a young child," the prosecution argued in court.

Casey's defense team also asked that evidence be preserved, suggesting the medical examiner, Dr. Jan Garavalia, won't bother.

"Because the remains are in the hands of the medical examiner, they are in a position to be better preserved than ever before, prior to being discovered yesterday," an attorney for the sheriff's office and medical examiner argued.

Prosecutors also cited a defense expert who talked on national TV about the Anthony car after an inspection earlier in the case.

"What I don't want to see, bluntly, is 24 hours after viewing an autopsy a defense expert on a national news show describing this child's remains," the prosecution said in court.

Investigators did grant one request Friday to Jose Baez, working out a deal that would allow his experts access to the crime scene immediately after detectives are through with it.


CASEY'S TREATMENT CHANGED AFTER DISCOVERY

Casey Anthony remains in a jail cell with no contact with other inmates. After Thursday's discovery, jail officials said they did alter her treatment.

"In fact, there has been a change. She met with a correction officer psychologist and was reviewed and placed on psychological observation. However, that is not a suicide watch," said Allen Moore, of the Orange County Corrections Department.

Although it was possible she watched news reports on television Thursday, jail officials said it was not likely.

Eyewitness News has learned Casey's made no phone calls since the discovery was made and nobody's asked to visit her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: always 1 on December 14, 2008, 01:33:28 AM
And the Anthonys now have to face their demons.  The day will come soon when the phone will ring and the coroner will explain gently that he has completed his examination of the body, and will they please come and claim it.  Another day will come when someone will knock on the door, perhaps with summons to come to court and perhaps testify about their own child. And the long days of photos and science theories of the tiny child they watched being born will come to pass.  A jury of Caseys peers will sit in judgement of thier youngest child, and maybe they will be told after the gavel drops for the final time, you may say goodbye to Casey, please do not touch her or hug her. 

Always 1-excellent post!
Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 01:34:04 AM
Well it appears that all have gone to bed, or are off researching and reading, so I guess I will:

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Goodnight monkey friends!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on December 14, 2008, 01:38:33 AM
Well it appears that all have gone to bed, or are off researching and reading, so I guess I will:

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Goodnight monkey friends!
Night orchid.  I will try again.  Why did I have to wonder if they searched those gifts!  Grrrrrrrrr me! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 01:39:08 AM

I wonder if that would work on armadillos.  Right after Halloween, I had a three day battle with one that came in through the cat door.

Did you get a new pair of boots out of that deal?

::MonkeyLaugh::  Hi neighbor!!!!   

Hey back to you. I was hoping to get to see you. Do you know where on the map the closest cell tower is to the Anthony's and the school, and this location where Caylee was found?  Silly question. I know you know, now I am wondering if you could show us.... TIA, and only if you have time.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.489514~-81.252995&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646345&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!564&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.489514~-81.252995&style=h&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646345&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!564&encType=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 01:39:57 AM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!

Lee didn't have bag stashed unless he had access to a freezer. He would have had the problem of the oder too had he stored the bag.

Oh, but Lee did have access to a freezer and so did all of the Anthonys.  Isn't there a freezer in their garage visible in some of the shots confronting the protesters and media?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: mammy on December 14, 2008, 01:44:20 AM
Goodnight Everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Orchidwmn on December 14, 2008, 01:44:33 AM
Thanks Jackie, now I am really leaving. I have it saved.... Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:50:19 AM
Casey Anthony's defense brings in high-powered team
Sarah Lundy, Bianca Prieto and Willoughby Mariano | Sentinel Staff Writers
December 13, 2008


There's a star New York City defense attorney with Hollywood connections; a best-selling mystery novelist who doubles as a forensic anthropologist; an expert who testified on the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. And a guy who knows bugs.

During an emergency hearing Friday in Orange Circuit Court, the defense for Casey Anthony, the 22-year-old mother suspected of killing her toddler daughter, unveiled a team that read like a cast of characters from a legal thriller.

They join other high-profile names such as criminalist Henry Lee -- made famous by the O.J. Simpson trial -- and Dr. Larry Kobilinsky, a forensic scientist, who is a regular on CNN's Nancy Grace.

Lead counsel Jos� Baez is playing to win, his spokesman Todd Black said.

As you can see, he's been putting together a tremendous team," Black said.

The hearing was called after a meter reader discovered the bones Thursday of a child who may be Caylee Marie Anthony. The remains lay a quarter-mile from the east Orange County home the girl shared with her mother and grandparents.

Orange County deputy sheriffs did not confirm the remains are those of Caylee, but New York attorney Linda Kenney Baden, who represented music impresario Phil Spector in his murder trial last year, said in court Friday that Baez was told the measurements of the bones and the color of hair discovered match those of Caylee.

Caylee's mother and grandparents have maintained since the July 15 report of her disappearance that the girl is alive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308dec13,0,7376977.story




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 01:50:29 AM
Thanks Jackie, now I am really leaving. I have it saved.... Thanks!
Good night Mammy and Orchidwmn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:51:54 AM
Casey Anthony's defense brings in high-powered team
Sarah Lundy, Bianca Prieto and Willoughby Mariano | Sentinel Staff Writers
December 13, 2008

Boxes sent to FBI in Virginia


The legal jostling took place as Orange County deputy sheriffs sifted through dirt near where the bones were found, looking for evidence that might tell them how the child died. The child's skull was found wrapped in duct tape, and other items were found in the bag, a source told the Orlando Sentinel.

The bones are now at the Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner's Office. Casey Anthony remains in Orange County Jail without bail on first-degree-murder and other charges.

Deputies left the Anthony home early Friday with boxes and several paper bags of evidence that will be used by FBI officials in Virginia. Lab technicians will compare the items with evidence found at the scene where the body was discovered, Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary said. He would not say what was seized from the Anthony home or collected with the remains.

Investigators likely searched the home looking for duct tape or a plastic bag similar to what was found with the body, said Richard Weinblatt, manager of the criminal-justice program at Seminole Community College.

Duct tape can pick up evidence such as carpet fibers, soil and fingerprints.

If these clues link the body with evidence gathered from the home or from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, where tests showed signs of a decomposing body, the find could be a boon to prosecutors, Weinblatt said.

But if authorities cannot determine how long the body was in the woods, all bets are off, Weinblatt said. The defense could argue the body was placed in the woods while Casey Anthony was in jail.

"The main question is, 'Where has the body been?' " he said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308dec13,0,7376977.story



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:53:46 AM
FBI Team Spent Saturday At Anthony Search Scene
Saturday, December 13, 2008 – updated: 6:27 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A larger FBI team returned Saturday to the scene where the remains of a small child were found near Caylee Marie Anthony's home. The team helped the Orange County Sheriff's Office process the crime scene and the area around it by sifting through buckets of dirt.

The Anthonys’ home was also a busy scene Saturday. Jose Baez and several others in the Casey Anthony defense team showed up at the home. It was Baez’s first chance to inspect the home where Sheriff’s investigators executed a search warrant this week.

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2008, 01:59:54 AM
Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains
Defense Says Remains Similar In Size, Hair Color To Caylee
POSTED: 6:07 am EST December 12, 2008
UPDATED: 6:53 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, spoke to the media on Saturday after remains were found within blocks of the Anthony family home.

Baez said Anthony was "not doing well at all" after hearing about the remains that were discovered in a wooded area of Orlando by a meter reader.

Baez, along with Casey's brother, Lee, showed up at the Anthony home Saturday afternoon.

He and his defense team traveled to the crime scene, where they investigated the area.

That came after FBI agents and the Orange County sheriff spent a third day in a row searching the same area where a child's remains were found.

The remains found near the Anthony home are similar in size and hair color to Caylee Anthony, a defense team attorney said on Friday.

Linda Kenney Baden said Casey Anthony’s lead attorney, Jose Baez, got that information from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office after the remains were discovered on Thursday less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Baez was told “the anthropological measurements on the child for her being Caylee Anthony, that the hair color was correct, and they were proceeding as if this were little Caylee,” Baden said during a hearing on Friday over access to evidence from the remains.

Prosecutors, however, said they have not made a tentative identification of the remains, which were discovered by a utility worker about 9:30 a.m Thursday. In his 911 call, the worker mentions finding a skull, which WESH 2 and NBC sources said showed evidence of duct tape on the mouth

Officials said on Saturday that it could be more than a week before conclusive DNA results are released, but investigators said they're almost positive it's Caylee.

"She's the only child of that age range that was reported missing," said Carlos Padilla, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The skull was the size and shape consistent with that of a young child, and of course it was close proximity to the residences."

Baden’s announcement in court was one of the latest twists in the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee, sometime before she reported the 2-year-old child missing in July.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=4245.400;num_replies=414


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:09:02 AM
FBI Team Spent Saturday At Anthony Search Scene
Saturday, December 13, 2008 – updated: 6:27 pm EST December 13, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A larger FBI team returned Saturday to the scene where the remains of a small child were found near Caylee Marie Anthony's home. The team helped the Orange County Sheriff's Office process the crime scene and the area around it by sifting through buckets of dirt.

The Anthonys’ home was also a busy scene Saturday. Jose Baez and several others in the Casey Anthony defense team showed up at the home. It was Baez’s first chance to inspect the home where Sheriff’s investigators executed a search warrant this week.

Lee Anthony also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard last night.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html


We need a pizzed off monkey emoticon ::MonkeyTongue:: these liars for hire made an azz of themselves just to try and make a scene that the OCSO, FBI and all other LE investigators were "covering something up". Please, your client made her bed and now she must lay in it-quit bitching about wanting to view the autopsy and investigation. UNTIL Dr. G "absolutely" thru scientific procedures identifies the body as Caylee~back off. Under Florida statutes they have NO right period! Plus Dr. Lee might decide to "accidentally" lose another piece of key evidence like he did during the Phil spector crime scene investigation. And Damn Geraldo for giving them a platform...........I HATE THEM ALL ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 02:09:19 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

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uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:12:01 AM
 You know, Islandmonkey, with some encouragement, you could learn to really let your feelings out. It's OK, you're among friends.

 ::MonkeyWink::

I agree with you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: ISpy on December 14, 2008, 02:13:45 AM
Goodnight, everyone!  Have to be up in a few hours and functional-helping someone else decorate for Christmas today.  Catch you all later to check our progress and get the news.  Take good care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:14:04 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

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uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






It's so abnormal. Caylee's remains have been found and she hasn't called anyone. Big developments and no contact. If the Anthony's really felt Casey was innocent, wouldn't they rush to comfort her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: da sparkenator on December 14, 2008, 02:14:35 AM
I'm trying not to be negative anymore about this case, about the ASS-onys, etc.  You know, if I don't have anything good to say, don't say it.

But I don't think I'm going to last much longer . . .  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 02:17:02 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

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uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






It's so abnormal. Caylee's remains have been found and she hasn't called anyone. Big developments and no contact. If the Anthony's really felt Casey was innocent, wouldn't they rush to comfort her?

You would think!!!!  Especially since she is soooooo upset that she had to be given sedatives... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:24:36 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:26:45 AM
You know, Islandmonkey, with some encouragement, you could learn to really let your feelings out. It's OK, you're among friends.

 ::MonkeyWink::

I agree with you!

Thanks CBB~ i really do have a difficult time expressing myself ::MonkeyWink:: I have just witnessed these dream teams before and they are an outrage to me! I have a former client who has worked with NATO, started a program at the Presidio, is an expert witness in many areas, works with the pentagon and the DOD (well, his resume is too long to list), but back to my point, after the PS trial I sent him an e-mail about a few conclusions with this very group of "experts", he responded that his profession is sorely lacking many true professional and that they basically will testify to whatever the defense request, and he named names!!!!! There are quiet a few on babykilling whore's defense team. Even Werner Spitz testified to a crazy theory during the Ps trial. Alan Jackson asked him how the blood stopped on the thigh area of Lana's skirt and ended up on Phil s who was "supposedly" standing 6-8 feet away around a corner~AJ asked "did the blood just fly thru the air, miss everything else, turn a corner and hit Spector", spitz actually stated in his hard to "vell yes"??????????? WTF.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:28:46 AM
Even if you follow their twisted thinking, if they really believed the story they have been spewing, they would have gone rushing to Casey and comforting each other because Phantom Zanny had killed Caylee, but at least now, Casey would be released because there would surely be some proof that Casey had nothing to do with it.

Fingerprints should prove her innocence, fibers, dirt samples would have nothing to do with Casey.


Title: ~totaly
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:31:44 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






It's so abnormal. Caylee's remains have been found and she hasn't called anyone. Big developments and no contact. If the Anthony's really felt Casey was innocent, wouldn't they rush to comfort her?

Agreed, but even stranger is that even though these remains are scientifically unidentified~babykillingwhore now has a 1million dollar defense team. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

By the way wyks totally agree with you too, I don't give a petrified turd how casey is doing!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:34:02 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/Monkeypissed.gif)

YES~can you please supply one before I have to find a xanax ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:34:16 AM
You know, Islandmonkey, with some encouragement, you could learn to really let your feelings out. It's OK, you're among friends.

 ::MonkeyWink::

I agree with you!

Thanks CBB~ i really do have a difficult time expressing myself ::MonkeyWink:: I have just witnessed these dream teams before and they are an outrage to me! I have a former client who has worked with NATO, started a program at the Presidio, is an expert witness in many areas, works with the pentagon and the DOD (well, his resume is too long to list), but back to my point, after the PS trial I sent him an e-mail about a few conclusions with this very group of "experts", he responded that his profession is sorely lacking many true professional and that they basically will testify to whatever the defense request, and he named names!!!!! There are quiet a few on babykilling whore's defense team. Even Werner Spitz testified to a crazy theory during the Ps trial. Alan Jackson asked him how the blood stopped on the thigh area of Lana's skirt and ended up on Phil s who was "supposedly" standing 6-8 feet away around a corner~AJ asked "did the blood just fly thru the air, miss everything else, turn a corner and hit Spector", spitz actually stated in his hard to "vell yes"??????????? WTF.

Oh, I KNOW what you are talking about and it's my worst fear in this case. I'll never forget the asian forensic lab tech in OJ's trial. Geraldo said one night on his show covering the trial, "I honestly believe that had he ( the lab tech ) been asked if it was possible that monkeys could fly out your butt, he would have said, "well, I suppose so!"

I'm more familiar with medical malpractice suits, but I have first hand knowledge that "Expert" Physicians will testify for whoever is paying them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:38:24 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:38:26 AM
The judge disallowing "observations" by the defense team during the search of the crime scene was HUGE!

Had they been allowed to "observe" it would have been for one purpose only. Dr. Lee would have picked apart the methodology of gathering evidence, explaining how one thing transferred to another and how there could be nothing reliable coming out of the examination of the scene.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:41:01 AM
I honestly believe that the ONLY reason Dr. Baden's wife was chosen to be on the team was to keep Dr. Baden from testifying for the prosecution. He is one of the few with the credentials of Dr. Henry Lee and they are often pitted against each other.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:41:40 AM
You know, Islandmonkey, with some encouragement, you could learn to really let your feelings out. It's OK, you're among friends.

 ::MonkeyWink::

I agree with you!

Thanks CBB~ i really do have a difficult time expressing myself ::MonkeyWink:: I have just witnessed these dream teams before and they are an outrage to me! I have a former client who has worked with NATO, started a program at the Presidio, is an expert witness in many areas, works with the pentagon and the DOD (well, his resume is too long to list), but back to my point, after the PS trial I sent him an e-mail about a few conclusions with this very group of "experts", he responded that his profession is sorely lacking many true professional and that they basically will testify to whatever the defense request, and he named names!!!!! There are quiet a few on babykilling whore's defense team. Even Werner Spitz testified to a crazy theory during the Ps trial. Alan Jackson asked him how the blood stopped on the thigh area of Lana's skirt and ended up on Phil s who was "supposedly" standing 6-8 feet away around a corner~AJ asked "did the blood just fly thru the air, miss everything else, turn a corner and hit Spector", spitz actually stated in his hard to "vell yes"??????????? WTF.

Oh, I KNOW what you are talking about and it's my worst fear in this case. I'll never forget the asian forensic lab tech in OJ's trial. Geraldo said one night on his show covering the trial, "I honestly believe that had he ( the lab tech ) been asked if it was possible that monkeys could fly out your butt, he would have said, "well, I suppose so!"

I'm more familiar with medical malpractice suits, but I have first hand knowledge that "Expert" Physicians will testify for whoever is paying them.

Scary isn't it?? Although I don't think a jury anywhere will fall for that chit again, even the PS jurors found all 7 experts laughable. What a shame. The expert I was referring to actually lives in central Florida, he's as real as they come (which is why he turns down a chit-load of request)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:42:41 AM
KCJackie, I cannot believe Casey was given sedatives. She should be acutely aware of every tingle of fear she's experiencing right now~!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 02:44:35 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

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That Works!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:45:25 AM
I honestly believe that the ONLY reason Dr. Baden's wife was chosen to be on the team was to keep Dr. Baden from testifying for the prosecution. He is one of the few with the credentials of Dr. Henry Lee and they are often pitted against each other.

Excellent point~although I have seen them testify (as in the PS trial, OJ trial) together for scum ::MonkeyNoNo:: Next we will see Baden join like he did in the PS trial.......OH, here is my latest pizzed off monkey~I think he's my favorite ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:45:49 AM
I hope you are right, Islandmonkey, and my good sense says that the OJ jury could never ever be put together again, but since it once was, it scares me! Now all they need is Tacopina's psychologist to select the jury!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 02:45:49 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

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That Works!!!!!!!  Sorry, messed up last post.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cubbeegirl on December 14, 2008, 02:46:07 AM
And the Anthonys now have to face their demons.  The day will come soon when the phone will ring and the coroner will explain gently that he has completed his examination of the body, and will they please come and claim it.  Another day will come when someone will knock on the door, perhaps with summons to come to court and perhaps testify about their own child. And the long days of photos and science theories of the tiny child they watched being born will come to pass.  A jury of Caseys peers will sit in judgement of thier youngest child, and maybe they will be told after the gavel drops for the final time, you may say goodbye to Casey, please do not touch her or hug her. 

Always 1-excellent post!
Thank you.


Very good post A-1...and a most likely scenario....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:47:29 AM
I hope you are right, Islandmonkey, and my good sense says that the OJ jury could never ever be put together again, but since it once was, it scares me! Now all they need is Tacopina's psychologist to select the jury!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

LMAO ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 02:47:51 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/Monkeypissed.gif)
That Works!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Glad it's to your liking! I tried, but islandmonkey's got the real thing going on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KCJackie on December 14, 2008, 02:49:37 AM
Did someone request a "Pizzed Monkey" icon?

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That Works!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Glad it's to your liking! I tried, but islandmonkey's got the real thing going on!

How about a stupid monkey icon for me!!!!  I don't understand why the monkey with the fingers up did not go with my post!!!!!!???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 02:49:50 AM
When I think of the duct tape, I don't think of abductors but rather Casey just trying to keep Caylee quiet.  Most seem to think this more likely to be associated with kidnapping, however.  Heard too many stories about evil school teachers doing this to kids I guess.

But fortunately, a better material for retaining evidence could not have been chosen so for whatever reason it was done, it is just about sure to produce at least some information about who put it there.

I've been reading here for... for... well, for EVER tonight, so please forgive me if someone else has said this, okay?  (I'm still over on page 6 somewhere, trying to catch up!)

With all this speculation about duct tape, I was thinking....... well, tightly cover your mouth with your hand.  You can't talk.  You can't speak.  But duct tape over the mouth does NOT necessarily SILENCE a person.. know what I mean?  You can still make plenty of noise if the duct tape is only covering your mouth.  You can still vocalize in your throat, the sound comes out through the back of your mouth and your nose. You can even scream.  Loudly.  (Try it.)   Just something that occurred to me and it gave me pause.

JonBenet had duct tape across her mouth, too, when she was found, and it looked rather staged, IIRC.

Kind of on the same subject, been thinking too about Casey's comment to Cindy on the first jail visit video, about Zanny and whether she had helpers.  Casey said (my paraphrase, but close):

  "unless somebody is dumb enough to open their mouth and talk..."

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And as everyone all over the country/world is wishing that Casey would put an end to the horrid circus that Caylee's disappearance and death has become, I can't help but remember with a chill what her friend Ryan said.  Remember?  Yuri M asked him, as someone who had known her from childhood, what it would take to make Casey to talk.  Ryan answered:  The fear of God.
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Oh, and btw, in case this has not been answered by now, I always wondered too whether "Zanny's" "injuries" from the "car crash" somehow mirrored injuries Caylee may have received... In the story, Caylee was not in the wreck.  IIRC Casey stated that both children, Caylee and the imaginary "Annabelle" were in her car, not Zanny's.  They were supposedly traveling several car lengths (or cars) behind Zanny and therefore witnessed the "accident."

BTW, remember the Sanford play-date that Casey lied to Matt C about? Well, Mallory P's best friend, named Michelle, has a myspace that I looked at a couple of months ago.   And I remember reading something about her sister? or friend? living in Sanford.  And the sister/friend has a daughter named Annabelle.  Michelle's myspace was very interesting.  She was dating a pilot named Edgar, who I believe worked for the private air charter company that Mallory and Michelle worked for, and he is from PR.  Probably totally unconnected, but I thought the Sanford/Annabelle thing was interesting.

Did you all notice in the new Todd Black statement the not-so-creative melding of Casey's two different kidnap stories?  Now it seems she "handed off" Caylee to Zanny not at Sawgrass but at JBP.  So how do you "hand off" your child to a babysitter if the babysitter has now become a violent kidnapper who is shoving you to the ground so her crazed evil sister can snatch your child? GMAB
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(And I'm sad tonight about the religious sniping going on...  tis not the season methinks.  JMO, though I'm a very new monkey and I know it's not my place to say.)

Sorry for the long post, but I've been reading forever and just had to get all that off my furry little chest.  Back to reading now.  Must get all caught up, even if I do have to work in the morning.  Thanks for listening, everymonkey...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 02:52:01 AM
Well, I finally got caught up & it's about time for bed now. But, I have 2 questions.

1. Did I hear correctly that LE took the computer?

2. Does mail that Casey gets, go through JB first?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:52:44 AM
The judge disallowing "observations" by the defense team during the search of the crime scene was HUGE!

Had they been allowed to "observe" it would have been for one purpose only. Dr. Lee would have picked apart the methodology of gathering evidence, explaining how one thing transferred to another and how there could be nothing reliable coming out of the examination of the scene.

Amen ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: also I heard that this evening Dr. G issued a "terse" statement saying that until the remains are identified scientifically, NO "experts" would be viewing anything, period! I like her, she's got the cajones to put the defense team in their place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 02:59:03 AM
Well, I finally got caught up & it's about time for bed now. But, I have 2 questions.

1. Did I hear correctly that LE took the computer?

2. Does mail that Casey gets, go through JB first?

IIRC~they did take the computer and 2) any INCOMING mail is screened via the jail, outgoing most likely, but anything that Baez gets from Casey he has discretion on whether or not to share as he is looking out for


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 03:00:11 AM
Desdemona, Great post! Please don't wait or hesitate to share your thoughts!!

I missed the religious snipings; probably a good thing because I don't have much patience with disrespect when it comes to faith.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 03:01:18 AM
Had not seen this picture before

(http://i38.tinypic.com/34pgwt1.jpg)

I saw this picture and it made me laugh! I think Cindy looks like her dog or vise versa.
Poor dog.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 03:02:32 AM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!

Oh, I SO agree with you, thank you for stating this.

Caylee made herself known, and no duct tape is going to silence her.  She has a lot to tell, and she is in the good, competent, loving hands of justice, finally.  Bless her little soul!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 03:08:08 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 03:14:09 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 03:14:31 AM
If just one of these rotten Medical examiners would back up and offer to provide services for free to the prosecution, I think they would retain some sense of respectability in God's eyes.  The money they could make in interviews would dwarf what little piece of the pie they are all nibbling on like dung beetles.

Come on Kobi, where is your sense of decency???

They are bunch of cockroaches and rodents who think the lights are turned off.  OCSO and Caylee, shine your light!

Oh Yay! Russ!

JB definitely cockroach!  LKB sorry, but rodent is perfect.  Oh yeah.

Justice is flippin on that light switch, watch 'em scamper and flee... Yay!  (Can you tell I liked your analogy?)
 ::MonkeyDance::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: WillenFan21 on December 14, 2008, 03:14:39 AM
You guys I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I was just listening to the 3rd 911 call that Cindy made and when the dispatcher asks Cindy how long Caylees been missing for Cindy's response is "I havn't seen Caylee since the 7th of June."

UMM I thought Caylee was last seen on June 15th on Fathers Day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 03:15:15 AM
I'm going back to read a little and then call it a night. Sleep well when you guys turn in, and may smiling angels watch over you as you sleep!

Night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 03:22:39 AM
I'm going back to read a little and then call it a night. Sleep well when you guys turn in, and may smiling angels watch over you as you sleep!

Night!

Nite CBB~peaceful dreams


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 03:27:10 AM
That's good that they got the computer, now they should have all of the emailes CA has sent to JB, her PI and anyone else. And also, I saw a tub they took out of the house with papers in it. I hope they found the letter that KC sent to CA. Maybe there will be  more proof of withholding evidence.

I read where JB said KC wasn't doing well. She really won't be doing well when the fingerprints from the duct tape come back.

I really think that we need to send KC the picture of Tony and his new girlfriend. I think that would push her over the edge!! As we all know she is not upset about Caylee, just the fact that she got caught. I believe that she thinks her POS lawyers will get her out of all of this.

I have been thinking about the duct tape, I don't believe that she used it to stage a kidnapping. I really don't think that she is that smart, or that she thinks 5 min. ahead. It seems like she reacts as situations arise.

Did LE request that GA & CA give fingerprints, or did they just volunteer them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Brandi on December 14, 2008, 03:29:33 AM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!

Oh, I SO agree with you, thank you for stating this.

Caylee made herself known, and no duct tape is going to silence her.  She has a lot to tell, and she is in the good, competent, loving hands of justice, finally.  Bless her little soul!



Hi Desdemona!

I was lurking up in the rafters trying to stay caught up and I saw you join.

I think you asked me the other day to Christmas-fy your avatar?

I made 2 for you to choose:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif)(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif)
If you like either one, you are welcome to use it!
the first is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif
and the second is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif

Now I will log out and like a good lil monkey, get some sleep. It's just 3:30 AM  LOL

Good night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 03:31:49 AM
That's good that they got the computer, now they should have all of the emailes CA has sent to JB, her PI and anyone else. And also, I saw a tub they took out of the house with papers in it. I hope they found the letter that KC sent to CA. Maybe there will be  more proof of withholding evidence.

I read where JB said KC wasn't doing well. She really won't be doing well when the fingerprints from the duct tape come back.

I really think that we need to send KC the picture of Tony and his new girlfriend. I think that would push her over the edge!! As we all know she is not upset about Caylee, just the fact that she got caught. I believe that she thinks her POS lawyers will get her out of all of this.

I have been thinking about the duct tape, I don't believe that she used it to stage a kidnapping. I really don't think that she is that smart, or that she thinks 5 min. ahead. It seems like she reacts as situations arise.

Did LE request that GA & CA give fingerprints, or did they just volunteer them?

You're right about her not being upset about Caylee, she didn't give a damn about her~only herself, but I do think the duct tape was for a kidnapping ruse as she had been researching missing and abducted children from March, and if she placed the duct tape on her, Caylee would have pulled it off when she awoke from whatever drug of choice slore gave her.

Regarding the fingerprints of the enablers~I don't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 03:33:02 AM

Danielle VanDam was found in a previously searched area. Could depend on the way the wind is blowing. I have no idea. It has happened that remains were found in an area they thought was searched. Just saying...

Yep.  From what I've heard in other cases, one reason the location of the searches aren't usually widely broadcasted is because perps can move a body from one place to an area that has been searched and cleared. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 03:41:00 AM
Its a total conspiracy if you ask me.  LOL

Lee had the bag stashed somewhere for a bit of time and then placed it in the area to which it was found while Casey was in jail in order to try and make her look innocent.  This is why he refused the DNA testing, figuring he could leave traces that he did not want found.
As long as he placed it in an area which he thought was thuroughly searched, Casey could be released given she could not have done it being in jail.

Ok..thats my theory for tonight..LOL  Poke holes in it please!!!

 it  :smt065

Actually I can see 'it' happening, yep!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 03:45:11 AM
That's good that they got the computer, now they should have all of the emailes CA has sent to JB, her PI and anyone else. And also, I saw a tub they took out of the house with papers in it. I hope they found the letter that KC sent to CA. Maybe there will be  more proof of withholding evidence.

I read where JB said KC wasn't doing well. She really won't be doing well when the fingerprints from the duct tape come back.

I really think that we need to send KC the picture of Tony and his new girlfriend. I think that would push her over the edge!! As we all know she is not upset about Caylee, just the fact that she got caught. I believe that she thinks her POS lawyers will get her out of all of this.

I have been thinking about the duct tape, I don't believe that she used it to stage a kidnapping. I really don't think that she is that smart, or that she thinks 5 min. ahead. It seems like she reacts as situations arise.

Did LE request that GA & CA give fingerprints, or did they just volunteer them?

You're right about her not being upset about Caylee, she didn't give a damn about her~only herself, but I do think the duct tape was for a kidnapping ruse as she had been researching missing and abducted children from March, and if she placed the duct tape on her, Caylee would have pulled it off when she awoke from whatever drug of choice slore gave her.

Regarding the fingerprints of the enablers~I don't know.


But, a "kidnapper" would have not have stayed in her neighborhood. That is the part that makes me think it wasn't for a kidnapping plot. I just don't think she thinks things through. You would think if she was stagging a "kidnapping" she would have taken her farther from her house. And maybe she taped a chloroform rag to her mouth. Knowing she wouldn't wake up. You know, just being a "spiteful bitch".

I don't know. It's hard trying to think like these f***ed up people!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 03:45:21 AM
Even if you follow their twisted thinking, if they really believed the story they have been spewing, they would have gone rushing to Casey and comforting each other because Phantom Zanny had killed Caylee, but at least now, Casey would be released because there would surely be some proof that Casey had nothing to do with it.

Fingerprints should prove her innocence, fibers, dirt samples would have nothing to do with Casey.

CCB, you have hit the nail on the head there.  If their story was true, they would be consoling each other, devastated.  Sharon Rocha sat outside the morgue, when lacis remains were found, just so she could be close to her.  Lee wouldnt have ripped down the memorials.  Argh its one big setup, that family really disgust me.  Poor Caylee, she didnt have a chance of a life with that screwed up family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 03:51:48 AM
That's good that they got the computer, now they should have all of the emailes CA has sent to JB, her PI and anyone else. And also, I saw a tub they took out of the house with papers in it. I hope they found the letter that KC sent to CA. Maybe there will be  more proof of withholding evidence.

I read where JB said KC wasn't doing well. She really won't be doing well when the fingerprints from the duct tape come back.

I really think that we need to send KC the picture of Tony and his new girlfriend. I think that would push her over the edge!! As we all know she is not upset about Caylee, just the fact that she got caught. I believe that she thinks her POS lawyers will get her out of all of this.

I have been thinking about the duct tape, I don't believe that she used it to stage a kidnapping. I really don't think that she is that smart, or that she thinks 5 min. ahead. It seems like she reacts as situations arise.

Did LE request that GA & CA give fingerprints, or did they just volunteer them?

You're right about her not being upset about Caylee, she didn't give a damn about her~only herself, but I do think the duct tape was for a kidnapping ruse as she had been researching missing and abducted children from March, and if she placed the duct tape on her, Caylee would have pulled it off when she awoke from whatever drug of choice slore gave her.

Regarding the fingerprints of the enablers~I don't know.


But, a "kidnapper" would have not have stayed in her neighborhood. That is the part that makes me think it wasn't for a kidnapping plot. I just don't think she thinks things through. You would think if she was stagging a "kidnapping" she would have taken her farther from her house. And maybe she taped a chloroform rag to her mouth. Knowing she wouldn't wake up. You know, just being a "spiteful bitch".

I don't know. It's hard trying to think like these f***ed up people!!!!

It's hard trying to think like these f***ed up people!!!! Truer words were never spoken!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 03:55:43 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






yes, exactly. Who gives a rats how casey is feeling.  Shes only feeling bad cos her sorry arzz has been busted.  Gawd it would even be worth doing a misdemeanor if you lived in Orlando, just so you could get in there and slap her up the head  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 03:59:59 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






yes, exactly. Who gives a rats how casey is feeling.  Shes only feeling bad cos her sorry arzz has been busted.  Gawd it would even be worth doing a misdemeanor if you lived in Orlando, just so you could get in there and slap her up the head  ::MonkeyConfused::

She does deserve a good "bitchslap", but compared to what she will get in prison, she's praying for just a bitch slap~even Georgie told LE he was worried about her safety due to how child molesters and BABYKILLERS are on the bottom rung in prisons.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 04:00:14 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 


yes, exactly. Who gives a rats how casey is feeling.  Shes only feeling bad cos her sorry arzz has been busted.  Gawd it would even be worth doing a misdemeanor if you lived in Orlando, just so you could get in there and slap her up the head  ::MonkeyConfused::

I'd like to slap them all up side the head!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Kimber on December 14, 2008, 04:03:08 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 

yes, exactly. Who gives a rats how casey is feeling.  Shes only feeling bad cos her sorry arzz has been busted.  Gawd it would even be worth doing a misdemeanor if you lived in Orlando, just so you could get in there and slap her up the head  ::MonkeyConfused::

She does deserve a good "bitchslap", but compared to what she will get in prison, she's praying for just a bitch slap~even Georgie told LE he was worried about her safety due to how child molesters and BABYKILLERS are on the bottom rung in prisons.......
 

I just wonder if she will be in general population? I think Susan Smith is still in protective custody.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 04:08:08 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






It's so abnormal. Caylee's remains have been found and she hasn't called anyone. Big developments and no contact. If the Anthony's really felt Casey was innocent, wouldn't they rush to comfort her?

I'd think so CBB!  Sometimes silence is deafening.  And yep, first thing most folks would want is to be among loved ones at a time like this.  Was surprising and telling also, that C&G didn't rush to her mom or even Lee for comfort, rather than staying in hotels, and neither have we seen family/friends from afar come rushing to town to encircle the A's with love and comfort.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 14, 2008, 04:09:34 AM
Tragically there is another child coming into that sick family! Oh how I wish that LA's gf's family would put some pressure on her to distance herself NOW from this family - and if she is unwilling, attempt to take some kind of legal action in order to protect that child before he/she is born into this dangerous family -  BEFORE another tragedy occurs!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 04:10:13 AM
well island monkey, lets hope she has to have eyes in the back of her head every single second she is in there.  She deserves a life of fear and no rest for the wicked.  If she gets life, in USA, does that mean her entire life?  Or does she get years taken off for good behaviour.  I hope she never gets out.  I hope she lives a long life in there, and never gets out.  Never, till she is an old lady, and they carry her out in a wooden box, or a body bag. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 04:11:35 AM
Even if you follow their twisted thinking, if they really believed the story they have been spewing, they would have gone rushing to Casey and comforting each other because Phantom Zanny had killed Caylee, but at least now, Casey would be released because there would surely be some proof that Casey had nothing to do with it.

Fingerprints should prove her innocence, fibers, dirt samples would have nothing to do with Casey.

CBB--  Brilliant.  Can't say enough about the brilliance of your post.  You are abso--- uh, totally correct.  ;)  In response to this "find," any sentiment from the A's other than the bittersweet crush of conflicting emotion -- utter grief that this is most likely their precious Caylee, but exhilaration in the knowledge that any evidence will now prove their precious Casey has been telling the truth all along, blah blah blah -- anything other than that is damning, isn't it?

Yep.  You're good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 04:13:07 AM
I honestly believe that the ONLY reason Dr. Baden's wife was chosen to be on the team was to keep Dr. Baden from testifying for the prosecution. He is one of the few with the credentials of Dr. Henry Lee and they are often pitted against each other.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 04:13:23 AM
Tragically there is another child coming into that sick family! Oh how I wish that LA's gf's family would put some pressure on her to distance herself NOW from this family - and if she is unwilling, attempt to take some kind of legal action in order to protect that child before he/she is born into this dangerous family -  BEFORE another tragedy occurs!

huh?  Is mallory pregnant to lee? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 14, 2008, 04:26:43 AM
Tragically there is another child coming into that sick family! Oh how I wish that LA's gf's family would put some pressure on her to distance herself NOW from this family - and if she is unwilling, attempt to take some kind of legal action in order to protect that child before he/she is born into this dangerous family -  BEFORE another tragedy occurs!

huh?  Is mallory pregnant to lee? 


unfortunately yes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 04:26:44 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks islandmonkey!  And yeah, when I read yesterday (saturday) something one of the defense dudes wrote about the A's... that they have been and still are fully cooperating with authorities, I nearly gagged.  In what sense have they ever cooperated?  Refusing to provide something with Caylee's scent is not cooperating.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 04:27:03 AM
well island monkey, lets hope she has to have eyes in the back of her head every single second she is in there.  She deserves a life of fear and no rest for the wicked.  If she gets life, in USA, does that mean her entire life?  Or does she get years taken off for good behaviour.  I hope she never gets out.  I hope she lives a long life in there, and never gets out.  Never, till she is an old lady, and they carry her out in a wooden box, or a body bag. 

I'd prefer the body bag myself~also, even if she is in protective custody, guards DO turn their back...........remember the priest John Geoghan (sp)?? They got him in his cell. Another piece of scum brought to justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 04:31:18 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks islandmonkey!  And yeah, when I read yesterday (saturday) something one of the defense dudes wrote about the A's... that they have been and still are fully cooperating with authorities, I nearly gagged.  In what sense have they ever cooperated?  Refusing to provide something with Caylee's scent is not cooperating.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


In fact they did everything they could to obstruct justice, they NEVER wanted Caylee found and not a damn one of them stepped up to the plate for that baby, well everyone else did and refused to let it be and to those who wouldn't let Caylee be dismissed I made this for all of you~my heros


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 04:32:56 AM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!

Oh, I SO agree with you, thank you for stating this.

Caylee made herself known, and no duct tape is going to silence her.  She has a lot to tell, and she is in the good, competent, loving hands of justice, finally.  Bless her little soul!



Hi Desdemona!

I was lurking up in the rafters trying to stay caught up and I saw you join.

I think you asked me the other day to Christmas-fy your avatar?

I made 2 for you to choose:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif)(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif)
If you like either one, you are welcome to use it!
the first is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif
and the second is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif

Now I will log out and like a good lil monkey, get some sleep. It's just 3:30 AM  LOL

Good night!

OMG!  Brandi thank you so so very much!  You have no idea how much you have brightened my wee hours, blearily trying to get caught up, knowing I'm robbing myself of the sleep I so desperately need for my work day tomorrow!!  You are wonderful and sweet to so tirelessly and generously share your time and creativity with the lucky monkeys here.... even including me!  Sorry to gush, but this is a gift that has warmed my spirits.

:smt060 :smt114 :smt060

Thank you, thank you from my happy little monkey heart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 04:39:35 AM
You guys I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I was just listening to the 3rd 911 call that Cindy made and when the dispatcher asks Cindy how long Caylees been missing for Cindy's response is "I havn't seen Caylee since the 7th of June."

UMM I thought Caylee was last seen on June 15th on Fathers Day?

I thought it was the 9th of June?  Well, either 7 or 9, she and then the others jumped on that bandwagon saying the same date Cindy said.  It wasn't until it was pointed out that the pic of Cindy and Caylee visiting Cindy's father, was dated Father's Day June 15th, that Cindy said oh yeah that's right, father's day.  (like who would have forgotten that father's day visit?)  I think she thought she could say whatever and no one would know about that visit.  Also think she wanted/needed to keep everyone's attention AWAY from father's day, for good reason, in what we later find happened that night. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 04:42:23 AM
I hate these people! They even make the discovery of this precious child's body a circus!!! How disqusting to see all these "so-called" professional's standing by the site where her body was discovered speaking to fox news - I continue to be sickened by the conduct of these bottom-feeding scum suckers!

Oh, I SO agree with you, thank you for stating this.

Caylee made herself known, and no duct tape is going to silence her.  She has a lot to tell, and she is in the good, competent, loving hands of justice, finally.  Bless her little soul!



Hi Desdemona!

I was lurking up in the rafters trying to stay caught up and I saw you join.

I think you asked me the other day to Christmas-fy your avatar?

I made 2 for you to choose:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif)(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif)
If you like either one, you are welcome to use it!
the first is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas1.gif
and the second is http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Desdemona-xmas2.gif

Now I will log out and like a good lil monkey, get some sleep. It's just 3:30 AM  LOL

Good night!

OMG!  Brandi thank you so so very much!  You have no idea how much you have brightened my wee hours, blearily trying to get caught up, knowing I'm robbing myself of the sleep I so desperately need for my work day tomorrow!!  You are wonderful and sweet to so tirelessly and generously share your time and creativity with the lucky monkeys here.... even including me!  Sorry to gush, but this is a gift that has warmed my spirits.

:smt060 :smt114 :smt060

Thank you, thank you from my happy little monkey heart.

aww you look so pretty.  Brandi is awesome how she spends so much time on our avatars.  I hope you can get some sleep Des, insomnia is the pits mate, especially when you have to work.  (((hugs to you))))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 04:45:03 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks islandmonkey!  And yeah, when I read yesterday (saturday) something one of the defense dudes wrote about the A's... that they have been and still are fully cooperating with authorities, I nearly gagged.  In what sense have they ever cooperated?  Refusing to provide something with Caylee's scent is not cooperating.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


In fact they did everything they could to obstruct justice, they NEVER wanted Caylee found and not a damn one of them stepped up to the plate for that baby, well everyone else did and refused to let it be and to those who wouldn't let Caylee be dismissed I made this for all of you~my heros

That is so beautiful island, I saved it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 04:46:22 AM
You guys I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I was just listening to the 3rd 911 call that Cindy made and when the dispatcher asks Cindy how long Caylees been missing for Cindy's response is "I havn't seen Caylee since the 7th of June."

UMM I thought Caylee was last seen on June 15th on Fathers Day?

I thought it was the 9th of June?  Well, either 7 or 9, she and then the others jumped on that bandwagon saying the same date Cindy said.  It wasn't until it was pointed out that the pic of Cindy and Caylee visiting Cindy's father, was dated Father's Day June 15th, that Cindy said oh yeah that's right, father's day.  (like who would have forgotten that father's day visit?)  I think she thought she could say whatever and no one would know about that visit.  Also think she wanted/needed to keep everyone's attention AWAY from father's day, for good reason, in what we later find happened that night. 

 

I agree~I asume they thought they planned so well......NOT! I have takent the liberty to have my very own special cast of characters from when a monkey earlier called Jose a "petrified turd" Here they are


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 04:49:15 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks islandmonkey!  And yeah, when I read yesterday (saturday) something one of the defense dudes wrote about the A's... that they have been and still are fully cooperating with authorities, I nearly gagged.  In what sense have they ever cooperated?  Refusing to provide something with Caylee's scent is not cooperating.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


In fact they did everything they could to obstruct justice, they NEVER wanted Caylee found and not a damn one of them stepped up to the plate for that baby, well everyone else did and refused to let it be and to those who wouldn't let Caylee be dismissed I made this for all of you~my heros

That is so beautiful island, I saved it.


Oh~you are so sweet!! That was my very first picture I took and decided to make postcards, and I just thought of all the monkeys as heros......not just for Caylee, but for all the lost with no voice of their own anymore. You honor me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:03:02 AM
island, you are a sweet and beautiful soul.  That picture is perfect for all the lost souls.  Its so serene and natural.  Its a beautiful picture that you took.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: nell on December 14, 2008, 05:05:22 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 05:09:07 AM

In fact they did everything they could to obstruct justice, they NEVER wanted Caylee found and not a damn one of them stepped up to the plate for that baby, well everyone else did and refused to let it be and to those who wouldn't let Caylee be dismissed I made this for all of you~my heros

Very true!!  And that is beautiful! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:10:53 AM
Tragically there is another child coming into that sick family! Oh how I wish that LA's gf's family would put some pressure on her to distance herself NOW from this family - and if she is unwilling, attempt to take some kind of legal action in order to protect that child before he/she is born into this dangerous family -  BEFORE another tragedy occurs!

huh?  Is mallory pregnant to lee? 


unfortunately yes...

I didnt hear that, but I dont hear as much as being in a different country and all  ::MonkeyHaHa::  OMG, Run Mallory Run............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 05:12:08 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 

I agree nell, well said! 

Don't think I've had the chance to welcome you to the cage yet... Welcome!   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:12:08 AM
island, you are a sweet and beautiful soul.  That picture is perfect for all the lost souls.  Its so serene and natural.  Its a beautiful picture that you took.

Thank you~it's hard to take a bad picture here due to the natural beauty that we are so blessed to be surrounded by, and regarding all the lost~well, we all know there are WAY too many and only a tiny percentage receive the coverage of Caylee, someone has to remember them always and never let the joy they brought to other cease.

This is one of my favorites because it is how all those lost livesshould have been ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Wyks on December 14, 2008, 05:13:56 AM
Welcome to all our new monkeys! 

Heading to the monkey bunkey, g'night all monkeys and guests!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:14:20 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 

I said the very same thing yesterday~I thought (although impossible) they should take the bag and ALL the remains and put them in her cell and turn off the lights for a week~let her see what her evil soul destroyed. BIATCH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 05:15:42 AM
You guys I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I was just listening to the 3rd 911 call that Cindy made and when the dispatcher asks Cindy how long Caylees been missing for Cindy's response is "I havn't seen Caylee since the 7th of June."

UMM I thought Caylee was last seen on June 15th on Fathers Day?

I thought it was the 9th of June?  Well, either 7 or 9, she and then the others jumped on that bandwagon saying the same date Cindy said.  It wasn't until it was pointed out that the pic of Cindy and Caylee visiting Cindy's father, was dated Father's Day June 15th, that Cindy said oh yeah that's right, father's day.  (like who would have forgotten that father's day visit?)  I think she thought she could say whatever and no one would know about that visit.  Also think she wanted/needed to keep everyone's attention AWAY from father's day, for good reason, in what we later find happened that night. 

 

Yes, it was odd, wasn't it?  She said the 7th and the 8th as well on the 911 calls, before they all decided on the 9th.

I always thought it was bizarre and  :smt102 how Casey hopped right on the 9th bandwagon, even using that date in her written police statement that night, when she had just famously told her brother (and I think the 911 dispatcher too?) that she had not seen her daughter for 31 days

-- Which, btw, would be June 14, the day I have heard Cindy say in two different interviews was the date she and Casey had the huge fight --

Maybe Casey sneaked into the house at night and kidnapped Caylee herself on the night of the 15th, then no one ever saw her alive again ...  just a crazy thought.

Casey as Zanny.








Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:22:36 AM
island, you are a sweet and beautiful soul.  That picture is perfect for all the lost souls.  Its so serene and natural.  Its a beautiful picture that you took.

Thank you~it's hard to take a bad picture here due to the natural beauty that we are so blessed to be surrounded by, and regarding all the lost~well, we all know there are WAY too many and only a tiny percentage receive the coverage of Caylee, someone has to remember them always and never let the joy they brought to other cease.

This is one of my favorites because it is how all those lost livesshould have been ::MonkeyNoNo::


aww that is such a nice photo also.  I agree there is so many missing, and not so many get this much coverage.  Blame the media.  they only take on cases that create a public outroar.  It is sad, and there are so many missing, but any missing persons case with a big story behind it, will make the headlines.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 05:24:42 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 


hi friend...nah LE doesnt have to do that, dont you remember shes the one that made her baby a makeshift body bag... in one of her first days in jail she sayss.."i havent slept in four days"...Tony Lazarro also noted casey had trouble sleeping, and was having night terrors..and she also told her friend that she was constantly typing to on the internet that she hadnt been sleeping well...Hm finally something was tru....this is all indications that casey is suffering from either a great amount of stress....sans sleep..But the nightmares add more fuel to the flame...it provides probability that Casey is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder...

it happened to me after a horrible car accident i was in..i cant sleep, i have nightmares...etc. etc. being in solitary confinement will only further torture her..thank god. shes just sitting there awake..wrapped in a blanket like she wrapped caylee...just thinking what if....what if i hadnt done it...what if i was a better csi ...etc.etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:31:05 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:32:23 AM
island, you are a sweet and beautiful soul.  That picture is perfect for all the lost souls.  Its so serene and natural.  Its a beautiful picture that you took.

Thank you~it's hard to take a bad picture here due to the natural beauty that we are so blessed to be surrounded by, and regarding all the lost~well, we all know there are WAY too many and only a tiny percentage receive the coverage of Caylee, someone has to remember them always and never let the joy they brought to other cease.

This is one of my favorites because it is how all those lost livesshould have been ::MonkeyNoNo::


aww that is such a nice photo also.  I agree there is so many missing, and not so many get this much coverage.  Blame the media.  they only take on cases that create a public outroar.  It is sad, and there are so many missing, but any missing persons case with a big story behind it, will make the headlines.

I agree, and the crazy dysfunctional family and the zanny story + the family only added to the media curiousity~kinda like Scott P.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:34:36 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

Hmm~Florida has VERY liberal laws regarding the release of public info, so I would assume it would be released. On the second question, I just moved to Florida last March so I'll have to check on life here in this state.......BRB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 05:36:31 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

ill  answer for you....about the public announcement, i really dont know, it looks the prosecution is sick and tired of the leaks...but there is no gag order so there is a good chance we will be advised...


2.  If casey is charged with first degree murder she will either get life without parole or death..*its still on the table for about 30 more days*...
If she gets a lesser charge, lets say involuntary manslaughter, she can get somewhere from probation to 16 years...second degree murder would give her about 25 to life  with possibility of parole


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:45:16 AM
For those convicted of first-degree murders that occurred after May 25, 1994, the only two possible punishments are death and LWOP. To the degree that jurors are concerned that 25 years in prison is too lenient a punishment, or those who fear that murderers who are released after 25 years in prison will constitute a serious threat to the safety of our communities, the LWOP option seems to have lessened the zeal for the death penalty.[4] Public opinion polls have also shown that support for the death penalty declines markedly given the alternative of LWOP.One lesson for defense attorneys here is to make sure that jurors know that once they have found a defendant guilty of first-degree murder, they have already made the decision that she or he will die in prison. Of course, the jurors may not really believe this, so attorneys need to think of ways to have different people remind them, in different ways, that LWOP means LWOP. They also need to be reminded that executive clemency in such cases is extremely rare. I am aware of only three people who were convicted of first-degree murder in Florida since 1972 who were released early by order of various governors and state clemency boards.

In practical terms, the shift from a 25 minimum-mandatory has had little effect on the lives of prisoners. The first group of people sentenced to life under Florida's post-Furman statute became eligible for parole in 1998, and only a couple have been released. To my knowledge, only one ex-death row inmate in Florida has been released after completing his mandatory 25 year minimum: Thomas Halliwell.[5]



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:48:50 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

I hope that helps~if she IS convicted of 1st degree murder Life means Life-NO GOOD TIME ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:50:15 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

ill  answer for you....about the public announcement, i really dont know, it looks the prosecution is sick and tired of the leaks...but there is no gag order so there is a good chance we will be advised...


2.  If casey is charged with first degree murder she will either get life without parole or death..*its still on the table for about 30 more days*...
If she gets a lesser charge, lets say involuntary manslaughter, she can get somewhere from probation to 16 years...second degree murder would give her about 25 to life  with possibility of parole

thank you NO1ZLADIE
well, I hope she gets charged with first degree murder.  I can just see the defense scraping the bottom of the barrel with the "back up plan" of sexual abuse, to get her charged with manslaughter.  He would have known she was lying, there was no kidnapping.  But, he had to go with that theory, now he will do his best to get her on a lesser charge then of manslaughter, or cry an insanity plea.  Thats his only defense now, and oh, yes, he knew this day would come.  he has his defense worked out. I hope George and cindy have thought of this, and Lee.  Look out to the "three fingers of this hand, middle finger is gonna blame you and screw you".   (quoting from georges pathetic convo and metaphoring a hand with their family)
Its not manslaughter, or accidental, when you lie, and make up stories, and act like a skank on heat a day after your baby goes missing.  Any juror wont cant see beyond that, oh god now lets all pray justice gets served.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 05:51:17 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

Lucinda, thank you for the kindness.  Will try to sleep for a few hours and I'm sure I'll make it through the day tomorrow.  Thank you.

Here in the U.S. it seems that notoriety such as Casey has received may play a role in whether she ever gets released, or how long it would be.  The public has a right to speak at any future parole hearings.

If however, she were to be sentenced to LWOP, Life without parole, she would serve the rest of her natural life.

Check out the Melanie McGuire case from New Jersey a couple of years ago.  I'm thinking Casey's case may go similarly.... She got life for murder, desecration of a corpse, lying to a court, etc... and will not be eligible for parole until 2073.  If she lives that long, she'll be 100 years old.  (This was the infamous fertility nurse who killed her husband and dumped his chopped-up body over a high bridge in three pieces of matched luggage.)

Oh, and in my opinion/experience, the cause of death after an autopsy can be Natural, Accident, Homicide, Suicide, or Undetermined.  Umm maybe there's another one in there, but can't remember it right now -- am sooooo sleepy!  But I know what you mean, will they say what they think the manner and means of death was ... ?  I want to know, but then again I kinda don't.  Ya know?

I like Ozzies.  :)  Goodnight for now!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: EverySunset on December 14, 2008, 05:52:07 AM
I have been reading all day just to catch up and here I am, finally. Whew! I watched the rerun of Dateline that aired about 2 hours ago. CA said that her investigators have found that everything KC has said is the truth.
Why? Is she blowing their nuts, too?

When asked if she thought there could have been an accident which KC covered up, CA said that no, KC was a very attentive mother and if Caylee skinned her knee "KC was right there" and because of this, if something were to have happened to Caylee, that KC would have freaked out and called 911.
*crickets*

Also, I looked at the person with the really creepy doll video ( ::MonkeyWaa::) and noticed a video titled, "My new dog, Marlee". Which looked familiar to me, than I realized Marlee = MARie cayLEE and then I got the shudders.  ::MonkeyWaa:: That person scares me whether connected to the case or not. Sheesh.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 05:55:51 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

Lucinda, thank you for the kindness.  Will try to sleep for a few hours and I'm sure I'll make it through the day tomorrow.  Thank you.

Here in the U.S. it seems that notoriety such as Casey has received may play a role in whether she ever gets released, or how long it would be.  The public has a right to speak at any future parole hearings.

If however, she were to be sentenced to LWOP, Life without parole, she would serve the rest of her natural life.

Check out the Melanie McGuire case from New Jersey a couple of years ago.  I'm thinking Casey's case may go similarly.... She got life for murder, desecration of a corpse, lying to a court, etc... and will not be eligible for parole until 2073.  If she lives that long, she'll be 100 years old.  (This was the infamous fertility nurse who killed her husband and dumped his chopped-up body over a high bridge in three pieces of matched luggage.)

Oh, and in my opinion/experience, the cause of death after an autopsy can be Natural, Accident, Homicide, Suicide, or Undetermined.  Umm maybe there's another one in there, but can't remember it right now -- am sooooo sleepy!  But I know what you mean, will they say what they think the manner and means of death was ... ?  I want to know, but then again I kinda don't.  Ya know?

I like Ozzies.  :)  Goodnight for now!




It IS possible that they could find it as undetermined and STILL be convicted, remember Scott Peterson, they were never able to determine the manner of death so that crappy defense argument just flew out the same window Zanny came in! For instance if she were suffocated and then only a skeleton she would not show the signs, so it is possible ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 05:58:46 AM
For those convicted of first-degree murders that occurred after May 25, 1994, the only two possible punishments are death and LWOP. To the degree that jurors are concerned that 25 years in prison is too lenient a punishment, or those who fear that murderers who are released after 25 years in prison will constitute a serious threat to the safety of our communities, the LWOP option seems to have lessened the zeal for the death penalty.[4] Public opinion polls have also shown that support for the death penalty declines markedly given the alternative of LWOP.One lesson for defense attorneys here is to make sure that jurors know that once they have found a defendant guilty of first-degree murder, they have already made the decision that she or he will die in prison. Of course, the jurors may not really believe this, so attorneys need to think of ways to have different people remind them, in different ways, that LWOP means LWOP. They also need to be reminded that executive clemency in such cases is extremely rare. I am aware of only three people who were convicted of first-degree murder in Florida since 1972 who were released early by order of various governors and state clemency boards.

In practical terms, the shift from a 25 minimum-mandatory has had little effect on the lives of prisoners. The first group of people sentenced to life under Florida's post-Furman statute became eligible for parole in 1998, and only a couple have been released. To my knowledge, only one ex-death row inmate in Florida has been released after completing his mandatory 25 year minimum: Thomas Halliwell.[5]




thanks island for that.  25 years, will get her out at age 47.  that is 4 years older than I am.  She needs to die in there, NEVER come out.  Im a heartless biatch, I know I am. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: nell on December 14, 2008, 05:58:50 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 


hi friend...nah LE doesnt have to do that, dont you remember shes the one that made her baby a makeshift body bag... in one of her first days in jail she sayss.."i havent slept in four days"...Tony Lazarro also noted casey had trouble sleeping, and was having night terrors..and she also told her friend that she was constantly typing to on the internet that she hadnt been sleeping well...Hm finally something was tru....this is all indications that casey is suffering from either a great amount of stress....sans sleep..But the nightmares add more fuel to the flame...it provides probability that Casey is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder...

it happened to me after a horrible car accident i was in..i cant sleep, i have nightmares...etc. etc. being in solitary confinement will only further torture her..thank god. shes just sitting there awake..wrapped in a blanket like she wrapped caylee...just thinking what if....what if i hadnt done it...what if i was a better csi ...etc.etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: nell on December 14, 2008, 06:01:21 AM
i think LE should force casey to look at caylee remains and rub her nose in them,that way she would never get the horror of seeing and smelling what she has done out of her head.forever and forever there to haunt her the rest of her life 


hi friend...nah LE doesnt have to do that, dont you remember shes the one that made her baby a makeshift body bag... in one of her first days in jail she sayss.."i havent slept in four days"...Tony Lazarro also noted casey had trouble sleeping, and was having night terrors..and she also told her friend that she was constantly typing to on the internet that she hadnt been sleeping well...Hm finally something was tru....this is all indications that casey is suffering from either a great amount of stress....sans sleep..But the nightmares add more fuel to the flame...it provides probability that Casey is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder...

it happened to me after a horrible car accident i was in..i cant sleep, i have nightmares...etc. etc. being in solitary confinement will only further torture her..thank god. shes just sitting there awake..wrapped in a blanket like she wrapped caylee...just thinking what if....what if i hadnt done it...what if i was a better csi ...etc.etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 06:02:08 AM
For those convicted of first-degree murders that occurred after May 25, 1994, the only two possible punishments are death and LWOP. To the degree that jurors are concerned that 25 years in prison is too lenient a punishment, or those who fear that murderers who are released after 25 years in prison will constitute a serious threat to the safety of our communities, the LWOP option seems to have lessened the zeal for the death penalty.[4] Public opinion polls have also shown that support for the death penalty declines markedly given the alternative of LWOP.One lesson for defense attorneys here is to make sure that jurors know that once they have found a defendant guilty of first-degree murder, they have already made the decision that she or he will die in prison. Of course, the jurors may not really believe this, so attorneys need to think of ways to have different people remind them, in different ways, that LWOP means LWOP. They also need to be reminded that executive clemency in such cases is extremely rare. I am aware of only three people who were convicted of first-degree murder in Florida since 1972 who were released early by order of various governors and state clemency boards.

In practical terms, the shift from a 25 minimum-mandatory has had little effect on the lives of prisoners. The first group of people sentenced to life under Florida's post-Furman statute became eligible for parole in 1998, and only a couple have been released. To my knowledge, only one ex-death row inmate in Florida has been released after completing his mandatory 25 year minimum: Thomas Halliwell.[5]




thanks island for that.  25 years, will get her out at age 47.  that is 4 years older than I am.  She needs to die in there, NEVER come out.  Im a heartless biatch, I know I am. 


 No, that was for someone convicted prior to 1994, they changed the laws due to the outrage to LWOP for any conviction AFTER May ? 1994, they were just stating the prior info. I should have copied the entire page because it would have been more clear~my bad, it's late and I'm sloppy ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 06:04:32 AM
Lucinda~I don't think you are a heartless bitch, now I might qualify and certainly cases surpasses heartless bitch 100 times over.......she is an evil POS with no soul, nothing but a talking walking piece of @ss.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 06:06:37 AM
I have been reading all day just to catch up and here I am, finally. Whew! I watched the rerun of Dateline that aired about 2 hours ago. CA said that her investigators have found that everything KC has said is the truth.
Why? Is she blowing their nuts, too?

When asked if she thought there could have been an accident which KC covered up, CA said that no, KC was a very attentive mother and if Caylee skinned her knee "KC was right there" and because of this, if something were to have happened to Caylee, that KC would have freaked out and called 911.
*crickets*


Every Sunset, I feel your pain!  It's 5am here, and I have to be at work in 4 hours.  Lotta reading, eh?  But what a good feeling to get caught up.
 ::MonkeyDance::

I noticed that baloney about how Casey would have called 911 per Cindy on Dateline.  Did you catch what else she slipped and said?  She said if anything serious had happened, Casey "would have been screamin' bloody murder."  She actually said that!

Yeah, and if Casey was so "attentive," then how come her precious child ended up underwater in a trash bag with duct tape on her mouth?  Huh Cindy?  Sheeesh!  What?  Casey put bandaids on her skinned knees before she stuffed her into a trash bag??

(oh, and snipped re doll video)  (- cuz just ick!)   ::MonkeyEek::

Wrapping up here for some shut-eye...





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 06:08:13 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

Lucinda, thank you for the kindness.  Will try to sleep for a few hours and I'm sure I'll make it through the day tomorrow.  Thank you.

Here in the U.S. it seems that notoriety such as Casey has received may play a role in whether she ever gets released, or how long it would be.  The public has a right to speak at any future parole hearings.

If however, she were to be sentenced to LWOP, Life without parole, she would serve the rest of her natural life.

Check out the Melanie McGuire case from New Jersey a couple of years ago.  I'm thinking Casey's case may go similarly.... She got life for murder, desecration of a corpse, lying to a court, etc... and will not be eligible for parole until 2073.  If she lives that long, she'll be 100 years old.  (This was the infamous fertility nurse who killed her husband and dumped his chopped-up body over a high bridge in three pieces of matched luggage.)

Oh, and in my opinion/experience, the cause of death after an autopsy can be Natural, Accident, Homicide, Suicide, or Undetermined.  Umm maybe there's another one in there, but can't remember it right now -- am sooooo sleepy!  But I know what you mean, will they say what they think the manner and means of death was ... ?  I want to know, but then again I kinda don't.  Ya know?

I like Ozzies.  :)  Goodnight for now!




Night Des, Im getting confused now with the info you guys are posting to me, I am on dial up, and oh holy mother of jesus this internet is so slow.  I hope you can sleep mate.  i have a lot of trouble with sleep, I have an auto immune disease, and insomnia is one of the things I go thru too.  I have scleroderma, and i do go thru a lot of stuff with that, and my husband has lupus.  I didnt mean to say that much here, but we are doing ok.  Our sons are adults, and as healthy and doing real well with their lives. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 06:09:30 AM
Oh, btw everybody who's calculating years in prison for Casey ---

Don't forget, murder is not all she's looking at!

The economic crimes charges alone should get her quite a few years added on, right?  I hope?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: EverySunset on December 14, 2008, 06:11:28 AM
Every Sunset, I feel your pain!  It's 5am here, and I have to be at work in 4 hours.  Lotta reading, eh?  But what a good feeling to get caught up.
 ::MonkeyDance::

I noticed that baloney about how Casey would have called 911 per Cindy on Dateline.  Did you catch what else she slipped and said?  She said if anything serious had happened, Casey "would have been screamin' bloody murder."  She actually said that!

Yeah, and if Casey was so "attentive," then how come her precious child ended up underwater in a trash bag with duct tape on her mouth?  Huh Cindy?  Sheeesh!  What?  Casey put bandaids on her skinned knees before she stuffed her into a trash bag??

(oh, and snipped re doll video)  (- cuz just ick!)   ::MonkeyEek::

Wrapping up here for some shut-eye...
Mother of the year? More like "Most Disgusting Family Ever". Night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Desdemona on December 14, 2008, 06:12:03 AM

Night Des, Im getting confused now with the info you guys are posting to me, I am on dial up, and oh holy mother of jesus this internet is so slow.  I hope you can sleep mate.  i have a lot of trouble with sleep, I have an auto immune disease, and insomnia is one of the things I go thru too.  I have scleroderma, and i do go thru a lot of stuff with that, and my husband has lupus.  I didnt mean to say that much here, but we are doing ok.  Our sons are adults, and as healthy and doing real well with their lives. 

(( hugs )) to you and your hubby, it's not easy.  I know stuff.  :)

Bless you and I'll say a prayer for you as I fall asleep pass out here in a few minutes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 06:16:51 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA

Lucinda, thank you for the kindness.  Will try to sleep for a few hours and I'm sure I'll make it through the day tomorrow.  Thank you.

Here in the U.S. it seems that notoriety such as Casey has received may play a role in whether she ever gets released, or how long it would be.  The public has a right to speak at any future parole hearings.

If however, she were to be sentenced to LWOP, Life without parole, she would serve the rest of her natural life.

Check out the Melanie McGuire case from New Jersey a couple of years ago.  I'm thinking Casey's case may go similarly.... She got life for murder, desecration of a corpse, lying to a court, etc... and will not be eligible for parole until 2073.  If she lives that long, she'll be 100 years old.  (This was the infamous fertility nurse who killed her husband and dumped his chopped-up body over a high bridge in three pieces of matched luggage.)

Oh, and in my opinion/experience, the cause of death after an autopsy can be Natural, Accident, Homicide, Suicide, or Undetermined.  Umm maybe there's another one in there, but can't remember it right now -- am sooooo sleepy!  But I know what you mean, will they say what they think the manner and means of death was ... ?  I want to know, but then again I kinda don't.  Ya know?

I like Ozzies.  :)  Goodnight for now!




Night Des, Im getting confused now with the info you guys are posting to me, I am on dial up, and oh holy mother of jesus this internet is so slow.  I hope you can sleep mate.  i have a lot of trouble with sleep, I have an auto immune disease, and insomnia is one of the things I go thru too.  I have scleroderma, and i do go thru a lot of stuff with that, and my husband has lupus.  I didnt mean to say that much here, but we are doing ok.  Our sons are adults, and as healthy and doing real well with their lives. 

Aww~I will pray for you and hubs........hugs across the ocean to you both!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 06:20:07 AM
thank you des, we are doing OK
wow yeah, lets not forget the fraud charges casey is on, I read somewhere that alone is 25 years.  Hope you can get some sleep mate.  OT, a face cloth, sew up the edges, stuff lavender, and rice in it, and then sew the top bit up..  Heat this up in the microwave for 20 seconds.  Add a couple drops of lavender oil onto the "pillow"  place it on your head, and then under your pillow.  It will help you relax and fall to sleep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: nell on December 14, 2008, 06:23:59 AM
i was dianosed 15 yrs ago w/ptsd,this came from a childhood incident,something i really couldn't stop but couldn't quit renumernating(playing over and over i my head what i could have done to change what happened) believe me you have to be a person with a conscience to to feel remorse for someone else to have ptsd.. casey will never suffer pstd because her thoughts will  always be for herself (poor,poor me(casey) - if only i had gotten away with it,if only i had gotten away with it,. i would be living Bella la vista or Vida (sp).if it hadn't been for caylee this wouldn't have happened,  it is all caylee's fault. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 06:24:11 AM
thank you island ((hugs))) right back at ya.
We are all doing OK, and if I had a choice to have an awful illness, or an unloving family, Id chose my life over poor lil Caylee any day.  Dear little girl, just want to hold her and love her  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 06:27:01 AM
thank you des, we are doing OK
wow yeah, lets not forget the fraud charges casey is on, I read somewhere that alone is 25 years.  Hope you can get some sleep mate.  OT, a face cloth, sew up the edges, stuff lavender, and rice in it, and then sew the top bit up..  Heat this up in the microwave for 20 seconds.  Add a couple drops of lavender oil onto the "pillow"  place it on your head, and then under your pillow.  It will help you relax and fall to sleep.

if the lavendar doesnt work..pull out the old bubbler and take the it the casey anthony way...by inhilation...heheh

shoot something bout this case has to make me laugh...other than her mom i just keep getting stunned..i read and reread ALL the transcripts that were released..but now that the body has been found i know 1000 percent what happened to that baby..her momma killed her...so i look back at all the sick shit casey said..all the times she was talking to her family saying they were going to find her..while subconciously shaking her head feverously to say no...she said.." if i had just wanted TO GET RID OF HER i would have just dropped her off at my parents..."...weird....And why was she watching nothing but horror movies? those two she rented with lazarro and she claims she was watching american psycho 2 when she wrote the everyone lies, everyone dies blog...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: islandmonkey on December 14, 2008, 06:28:49 AM
thank you island ((hugs))) right back at ya.
We are all doing OK, and if I had a choice to have an awful illness, or an unloving family, Id chose my life over poor lil Caylee any day.  Dear little girl, just want to hold her and love her  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You have a great heart and are very wise~just remember you ARE holding her and loving her in your heart and that's a hell of a lot more than her own family ever did. God Bless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: jjayinthemorning on December 14, 2008, 06:38:09 AM
What kind of nurse is Cindy not to notice Casey is pregnant until month 8 and not to notice the child had symptoms of being drugged? She should be charged with child neglect and obstruction of justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: PookyBear on December 14, 2008, 06:42:44 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA
Good morning Lucinda -- some states like Florida have Life in Prison without the chance for Parole -- others have Life in Prison but can be eligible for parole after serving xxx of years.  The coroner does not typically have to issue a report to the public but in Florida I would think they would have to because of the open sunshine laws.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 06:46:31 AM
What kind of nurse is Cindy not to notice Casey is pregnant until month 8 and not to notice the child had symptoms of being drugged? She should be charged with child neglect and obstruction of justice.
haha that makes her a very ignorant nurse..shoot cindy is ignoramous of the century..her brother claimed that stupid casey showed up to his wedding with a tight fitted top, a big belly and extended belly button....so he pulled his sister aside and said, whats up with casey, is she pregnant?...cindy replied..."no, we have already talked to her about its, shes just gaining a little weight, casey would have had to have sex in order to get pregnant!"...so her brother than went ahead and embarrassed his sister by having other people give their two cents on the situation..he also told his sister..."Casey is either pregnant, or is going to die from a massive tumor in her stomach"...clearing the confusion that he himself was no doctor/nurse and he could come to this conclusion..ahh that family


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 06:52:49 AM
What kind of nurse is Cindy not to notice Casey is pregnant until month 8 and not to notice the child had symptoms of being drugged? She should be charged with child neglect and obstruction of justice.
haha that makes her a very ignorant nurse..shoot cindy is ignoramous of the century..her brother claimed that stupid casey showed up to his wedding with a tight fitted top, a big belly and extended belly button....so he pulled his sister aside and said, whats up with casey, is she pregnant?...cindy replied..."no, we have already talked to her about its, shes just gaining a little weight, casey would have had to have sex in order to get pregnant!"...so her brother than went ahead and embarrassed his sister by having other people give their two cents on the situation..he also told his sister..."Casey is either pregnant, or is going to die from a massive tumor in her stomach"...clearing the confusion that he himself was no doctor/nurse and he could come to this conclusion..ahh that family



Now about her involvement....I know for a fact she had nothing to do with the death or burial arrangements of her granddaughter...she would have cracked long ago..but i do think she has withheld evidence..the brush thing..and in her last interview on t.v. she was constantly trying to break her husbands train of thought, and word vomit by stroking his hand, arm..holding his hands, and from what i assume..applying pressure to his palm with her nails to tell him to shut up. But her body language when she speaks is all of a person who is nervous, but not lying..she said even in her last interview that she strongly believed caylee was alive..and her head nodded yes..these are all subconscious movements that experts call body language..hehe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 06:54:36 AM
NO1ZLADIE
she only went out and hired movies the same day she killed caylee, and what were they?  Some movies about murder and a mum murdering, what were the movies ?  Its been documented.  When I read that, I thought omg you sick callous piece of scum.  Has anyone here watched them?  I did write the titles down and somewhere here, they are on a piece of paper.  Id like to hire them and watch them.  What a callous piece of shiet is she, to walk hand in hand with her boyfriend, and then hire movies of this nature.  She has no remorse.  thank goodness this piece of evidence, is gonna come back and bite her sorry arzz. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 07:07:50 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA
Good morning Lucinda -- some states like Florida have Life in Prison without the chance for Parole -- others have Life in Prison but can be eligible for parole after serving xxx of years.  The coroner does not typically have to issue a report to the public but in Florida I would think they would have to because of the open sunshine laws.

thank you PookyBear
Good morning to you too.  Its 10.30 pm here in Oz land.
Im very interested in the coroners report.  Im thinking it should become public because of the interest of the whole USA.  Im sure the defense will next do an attempt to put a subp on any info regarding the autopsy results.  just wait and see.  So where is the grieving family???  Oh, keeping their mouths shut.  Not consolling, not acting like their world has just ended.  They are hiding away.  And, my honest opinion, they would have done that LKL interview, but were advised against.  They arent grieving, they are and they have all along, loved the lime light, and the thousands of dollars given to them for photographs of caylee.  I hope now, they cannot cash in on her anymore.  Every intervies they do, (oh yes, not paid) but their first class airfares are, motels etc, and every photo you see on tv, is sold for an amount that most people make in a year.  Yes, 2k for a photo.  they are cashing in on Caylee.  George and Cindy are pond scum. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 07:10:35 AM
edit to add, 200k per photo. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 07:13:26 AM
NO1ZLADIE
she only went out and hired movies the same day she killed caylee, and what were they?  Some movies about murder and a mum murdering, what were the movies ?  Its been documented.  When I read that, I thought omg you sick callous piece of scum.  Has anyone here watched them?  I did write the titles down and somewhere here, they are on a piece of paper.  Id like to hire them and watch them.  What a callous piece of shiet is she, to walk hand in hand with her boyfriend, and then hire movies of this nature.  She has no remorse.  thank goodness this piece of evidence, is gonna come back and bite her sorry arzz. 

Yeah i had her convicted before the body was even found. but she did it to herself...she left all the evidence in the world. scattered witnesses...left phone pings...sociopath.. unorganized killer. That movie rental is going to do some damage in court, along with the other 2000 pages of reasons why she did it, how, when and with what intent....shes an idiot....

o yea the movies were..jumper...which just involves a mother abandoning her son, and while dealing with that anger he learns to teleport himself....and the other movie was untraceable...i dont know what its about..but i can take a good guess..!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 07:21:49 AM

Lee Anthony removes temporary memorial

(http://i33.tinypic.com/mj8uus.jpg)
 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8067350&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)

Good Morning Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 14, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::

Casey Anthony's Attorney Turned Away From Search Scene

http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 07:26:31 AM

Jose Baez holds an impromtu news conference on Saturday
(http://i36.tinypic.com/15chvgw.jpg)
 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8067476&version=1&locale=EN-US)

Baez said, "has a list of everything taken from the house."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: PookyBear on December 14, 2008, 07:30:35 AM
goodnight Wyks have a good sleep.
I did post a question here today, and it didnt get answered.  Actually, I have two.
1) After the coroners findings,  will the cause of death be announced publically?  Or will that be hushed up until the trial, and be exclusively used by the prosecution?

2)  What is life in prison in USA?  Will that get time cut off for good behaviour in prison?  What would Caseys term be if convicted, and sentenced to life?

TIA
Good morning Lucinda -- some states like Florida have Life in Prison without the chance for Parole -- others have Life in Prison but can be eligible for parole after serving xxx of years.  The coroner does not typically have to issue a report to the public but in Florida I would think they would have to because of the open sunshine laws.

thank you PookyBear
Good morning to you too.  Its 10.30 pm here in Oz land.
Im very interested in the coroners report.  Im thinking it should become public because of the interest of the whole USA.  Im sure the defense will next do an attempt to put a subp on any info regarding the autopsy results.  just wait and see.  So where is the grieving family???  Oh, keeping their mouths shut.  Not consolling, not acting like their world has just ended.  They are hiding away.  And, my honest opinion, they would have done that LKL interview, but were advised against.  They arent grieving, they are and they have all along, loved the lime light, and the thousands of dollars given to them for photographs of caylee.  I hope now, they cannot cash in on her anymore.  Every intervies they do, (oh yes, not paid) but their first class airfares are, motels etc, and every photo you see on tv, is sold for an amount that most people make in a year.  Yes, 2k for a photo.  they are cashing in on Caylee.  George and Cindy are pond scum. 

I have thus far resisted writing any opinions on how I feel about the family.  I have to say now though that I am disgusted by the lot of them.  Jose Biaz has lost perspective in protecting his client -- This has become a media frenzy -- Ugh -- Come on -- I have never heard of allowing the defense to the murder scene or secondary scene while the state gathers evidence and to boot the defense wants to allow Dr. Henry Lee who as I understood from the trial itself collected evidence in the Spector trial and "lost" it -- it probably was the most damning evidence there was --

What is a normal reaction from the family?  Wouldn't you grieve, wouldn't you go to prison and see your daughter? 

Yes, I see that the prosecution has to match up the evidence with what has already collected and the most difficult part of this is determining how long the body has been in the woods and has been dead -- I prayed every night that she would be found and God has answered that prayer.  Now, I pray that what needs to happen happens so that justice can be done.  May we all find the truth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 07:30:49 AM
NO1ZLADIE
she only went out and hired movies the same day she killed caylee, and what were they?  Some movies about murder and a mum murdering, what were the movies ?  Its been documented.  When I read that, I thought omg you sick callous piece of scum.  Has anyone here watched them?  I did write the titles down and somewhere here, they are on a piece of paper.  Id like to hire them and watch them.  What a callous piece of shiet is she, to walk hand in hand with her boyfriend, and then hire movies of this nature.  She has no remorse.  thank goodness this piece of evidence, is gonna come back and bite her sorry arzz. 

Yeah i had her convicted before the body was even found. but she did it to herself...she left all the evidence in the world. scattered witnesses...left phone pings...sociopath.. unorganized killer. That movie rental is going to do some damage in court, along with the other 2000 pages of reasons why she did it, how, when and with what intent....shes an idiot....

o yea the movies were..jumper...which just involves a mother abandoning her son, and while dealing with that anger he learns to teleport himself....and the other movie was untraceable...i dont know what its about..but i can take a good guess..!

yeah Jumper, I remember writing that down.  Untraceable, Im gonna go out and hire them.  Theres clues in them movies.  Cold callous biatch.  How could anyone even watch the sound of flucken music after killing your child, let alone sick murder movies.  She IS NOT CRAZY.  She is a callous and scheming CHILD KILLER, and she hired them movies either,
a) to get tony warmed up to the idea that she murdered caylee, and didnt know how to tell him.
b) she wanted to get ideas how to cover her tracks and dispose of caylees body that was (in a temp grave at the anthonys, or rolling around in her trunk)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SweetMorgan on December 14, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
 ::MonkeyWink::
Getting ready to go shopping so I can buy my special "Caylee" ornament to honor our little angel.  I think that was a wonderful idea.  I will always remember this little sweetheart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 07:41:29 AM

Jose Baez holds an impromtu news conference on Saturday
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 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8067476&version=1&locale=EN-US)

Baez said, "has a list of everything taken from the house."

boy boy boy.. i loved watching jose baez whining like a poor sport outside of the perimeter of the crime scene...funny they wont even walk him thru..when the day before tim miller ((the sweetest man ever)) was given a tour of the crime scene...even got to see where the remains had been found...lol. it was hilarious...

The funniest part is i honestly thought the judge was going to give them an ok to watch over the prosecution ME team...SHOT DOWN...So i checked out the affidavit..even funnier..it looks like an unexperienced Baez wrote it out himself!! " we would like to request an emergency court hearing to see if this 'body" is that of caylee anthonys...and if it is can we preserve the evidence until we get one of our losers in there?? basically jose baez asked if his team could assist in the retrieval of evidence.. PAH LeeZ....When his request should have been for a supervision of the ME's while they did their lab work..while the just watched as to participate in not disturbing the remains....and he refers to caylee as "the body" like 5 times..grrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 07:45:19 AM

Bouty hunter Leonard Padilla's theory on the body

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 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8068432&version=1&locale=EN-US)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 14, 2008, 07:55:05 AM
Yay got here just in time to jump into the new cage....The Anthony's are gonna be on MSNBC..in just a minute gonna watch and see what they have to say!

Grieving for 2 days, staying out of the media spotlight, not wanting to be disturbed while they grieve, etc. That certainly didn't last long!
if i had a left nut i would bet that it they are going to cancel

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: (we use that phrase a lot around here)


Title: Defense Problems
Post by: niia on December 14, 2008, 07:55:56 AM
It will be a very interesting trial to watch.
Obviously, the defense will attack the evidence to try to insert reasonable doubt.
But ... will they try to float the KC Zanny story ? What is interesting to me is how do you get this testimony in front of the jury without it being hearsay?  Can CA or GA testify as to what KC TOLD THEM? Since KC is the only one who saw the Nanny, wouldn't she have to testify to get this story in front of the jury ???
So let's say the defense tries to introduce it through CA or GA ?  Maybe the prosecution would allow it since then they could show how many Zannys they searched for, no Zanny living at the residence , etc. etc. etc. and show all these lies as well as her lies about working, lies about .....
IMHO, it will not matter what the defense puts in front of the jury if there are fingerprints on anything around the body (duct tape, plastic bag, etc.) the jury will convict.  Let's just hope that the prosecution puts the DP back on the table when the evidence has been processed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 14, 2008, 07:56:18 AM
::MonkeyWink::
Getting ready to go shopping so I can buy my special "Caylee" ornament to honor our little angel.  I think that was a wonderful idea.  I will always remember this little sweetheart.

Morning everybody.. I'm about 26 pages behind...   ::MonkeyWaa::

This is a great idea!!  A Caylee ornament.   :smt055 :smt051


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:12:29 AM
would be INTERESTING if one of the jc penneys reciepts was for a REPLACEMENT for .."ahem "  the bedding....


grim... just GRIM!

Yep, that's my vote.
IF that were the case then no way did Cindy not know about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:15:17 AM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)
DO you think as a child someone terrorized Lee with stuffed toys? He seems to be good at getting rid of them...remember the "smoke" smelling ones?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:16:16 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: Good morning monkeys, still a few pages back! It seems obvious to me that the A's and their "defense team" already know this is Caylee. She has not even been "tentively" identified, and they are already screaming for access to the crime scene. Usually when a body is found (especially after several months)they aren't sure who it is so they have to do dna tests, etc to positively identify. When LP thought he found Caylee at JBP they (A's) knew right away it was not her, yet now before she's even beed ID'd, they want access immediately! Do they not realize how obvious it is to all us "outsiders" that they already know it's her.
Also, another rant...
How can GA & CA after their precious little granddaughter has been found dead in the woods, not far from their home, come out almost immediately and say something like "if it's her it doesn't mean KC did it??? They are already defending her, AGAIN!! They don't even know what evidence has been found at the scene!!
They can cry it was Zanny all they want, but sorry, there is not one shred of evidence she exists!! Bet they wish they had that photo they claimed to have many months ago. How come that photo never surfaced? Because it doesn't exist, just like the nanny!!

How stupid do they think people are??? Ughhh, I'm going to search for ANGRY MONKEY pics too, that someone asked for a few pages back!!

How's this!!
(http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Family-Guy/Angry-monkey.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:17:51 AM
Morning monkeys ... so, any word from George and Cindy? Still puttin' on at the Ritz?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I had a strange and horrible thought this morning and this is just my brain in the morning -- fuzzy. My thought was: what if the item found with the remains was a Find Caylee t-shirt? Then we would know someone in that family planted it there. Ok, I'm sorry. It's out there. I know. Not saying it is my theory, rather just a random and strange thought. My bet is still on a Winnie the Pooh crib sheet.

My other thought is that if I were in their shoes, my statement to the media, a one-time statement, would be something like this:

"I love my daughter and that will never change. But if she committed this crime, she must face the consequences. That is not up to me to decide. I love my granddaughter dearly. I will not tarnish her memory by selling her photos and interfering in the criminal case against my daughter. Please leave us alone so we can grieve."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:19:21 AM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)
DO you think as a child someone terrorized Lee with stuffed toys? He seems to be good at getting rid of them...remember the "smoke" smelling ones?

(http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Family-Guy/Angry-monkey.gif) Maybe he was going to burn them first!! Who knows, but that is just cold and heartless. If they had been there for weeks already and where rained on and getting ruined maybe, but to take a just placed memorial for his own niece, that is plain sick!!! Makes so mad!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
That is terrible the way Lee destroyed the memoral items left for Caylee.

Hey LEE: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/6.gif)    (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)
DO you think as a child someone terrorized Lee with stuffed toys? He seems to be good at getting rid of them...remember the "smoke" smelling ones?

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Maybe ... he definitely has a fear of cardboard signs

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Ah, that never gets old. Lee getting owned by a sign.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
DIANE downs.... after she killed one child and left the other two injured (one in wheelchair for life) when she TRIED to kill ALL THREE kids so she could have her BF who didnt WANT kids....


anywho... she got pregnant.... they figured it was for the SYMPATHY the jurors would have for a pregnant woman....


grim... nasty and GRIM!
The stoopid thing is if she is pg.....only can be Jose or someone who came to the house during house confinement. I also think if she is....I am not so sure sympathy would be something the jury would have for her. She won't look too good when the jury finds out how resentful she was of having a child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: LadyB on December 14, 2008, 08:23:28 AM
would be INTERESTING if one of the jc penneys reciepts was for a REPLACEMENT for .."ahem "  the bedding....


grim... just GRIM!

Yep, that's my vote.
IF that were the case then no way did Cindy not know about it.
Good morning everyone.  When  hair from the remains are matched with the hair in trunk of Caseys car, how will they ever dispute that.  Even the best defense attorneys cannot dispute that.  Even though Cindy gave them a hairbrush that both KC and little Caylee used, they will match dna to Caylee, and there probably was something on the JC Penny reciept that CA did not want seen because there was no logical explanation why KC would need to buy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:26:31 AM

Lee Anthony removes temporary memorial

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 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8067350&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)

Good Morning Monkeys


Go back into hiding!!! It's better not knowing where you are, or what you're doing!! Any time you do come out, it's to do something like throw out stuffed animals for your niece, tear up signs, or deny a dog his water!!! If you have nothing nice to do, don't do anything at all!!

Ok, angry monkey again!
(http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Family-Guy/Angry-monkey.gif) YOU! YOU! YOU! ARGHHHHHH!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: anothermonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:27:22 AM
I know this is a sick thought, but ..  nobody smelled a body decomposing in that area before the storms hit? And  while it might not be a well-trodden area, would the water have masked the odor all that time? (And at what point does the body not smell? Only once all of the soft tissue is gone?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:27:37 AM
Jose Baez is such an ass.  So his story now is that Caylee is dead, but Zanaida took her from Casey at JB Park and killed her.  OK.  In order for this to be the defense, Casey will have to testify to it.  Baez can't do it, and neither can anyone else.  If someone says Casey told them this, it's hearsay and inadmissable.   The whole Zanaida story can only be admitted as evidence if Casey takes the stand and tells it.  I don't think even Baez is dumb enough to put Casey on the stand.  She can't keep to one story for a minute, much less under cross-examination.  I'd kind of like to see it, though.


It's impossible for the defense to prove their is a Zanny. no phone number, no one seen her,
no calls in or out for a Zanny and no pictures of Zanny with Casey or Caylee.. ::MonkeyShocked::
[color=blue...and grandparents never met Zanny. That to me really is important. There is no way as controlling as Cindy is that she would not have met a babysitter. I just don't believe it.][/color]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:30:09 AM
How this for an angry monkey:

(http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:31:08 AM
How this for an angry monkey:

(http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615) (http://images.dimondsmile.multiply.com/image/11/photos/268/600x600/26/angry-monkey5.gif?et=i%2BnvfA0VR917wpk1%2B46yKw&nmid=122097615)

sorry it didn't show the TM on the website! Oh well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:32:39 AM
Hi there, QuietMonkey I feel your frustration. I have come to the following conclusion about Cindy (not George, my opinion on him is different):

I doubt she would believe Casey killed Caylee if she saw it clearly on video. I even doubt she would believe it if Casey confessed right to her face. "Casey, is someone threatening the family? Who is making you confess to something you did not do? Is it Zanny? Jesse? Amy?"

As for George, regardless of how he plays along with his overbearing wife in public, he KNOWS and he has all along. It is written all over his face. Now, whether he will ever openly say it, I don't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 14, 2008, 08:33:29 AM
::MonkeyDance:: Good morning monkeys, still a few pages back! It seems obvious to me that the A's and their "defense team" already know this is Caylee. She has not even been "tentively" identified, and they are already screaming for access to the crime scene. Usually when a body is found (especially after several months)they aren't sure who it is so they have to do dna tests, etc to positively identify. When LP thought he found Caylee at JBP they (A's) knew right away it was not her, yet now before she's even beed ID'd, they want access immediately! Do they not realize how obvious it is to all us "outsiders" that they already know it's her.
Also, another rant...
How can GA & CA after their precious little granddaughter has been found dead in the woods, not far from their home, come out almost immediately and say something like "if it's her it doesn't mean KC did it??? They are already defending her, AGAIN!! They don't even know what evidence has been found at the scene!!
They can cry it was Zanny all they want, but sorry, there is not one shred of evidence she exists!! Bet they wish they had that photo they claimed to have many months ago. How come that photo never surfaced? Because it doesn't exist, just like the nanny!!

How stupid do they think people are??? Ughhh, I'm going to search for ANGRY MONKEY pics too, that someone asked for a few pages back!!

How's this!!
(http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Family-Guy/Angry-monkey.gif)


Good morning.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Mary Ann on December 14, 2008, 08:33:50 AM
Hey Lucinda.............I work for the Scleroderma Foundation!!! If you call the 800# on Tuesday, I will send you literature!!!!!!!!!!  Small world :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:34:10 AM
Morning monkeys ... so, any word from George and Cindy? Still puttin' on at the Ritz?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I had a strange and horrible thought this morning and this is just my brain in the morning -- fuzzy. My thought was: what if the item found with the remains was a Find Caylee t-shirt? Then we would know someone in that family planted it there. Ok, I'm sorry. It's out there. I know. Not saying it is my theory, rather just a random and strange thought. My bet is still on a Winnie the Pooh crib sheet.

My other thought is that if I were in their shoes, my statement to the media, a one-time statement, would be something like this:

Quote
"I love my daughter and that will never change. But if she committed this crime, she must face the consequences. That is not up to me to decide. I love my granddaughter dearly. I will not tarnish her memory by selling her photos and interfering in the criminal case against my daughter. Please leave us alone so we can grieve."


That sounds great, why couldn't they think of that?? Guess that isn't the way they're thinking. Obviously KC defense is more important to them right now!!! Grrr!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:36:18 AM
ME and others did say the house.  Agree.  But that stick looks like molding to me.  I enlarged it and there is a notch routed out on the back side. 

Perhaps LE have noticed a piece of molding missing from some where in the Anthony house?

I hope the bag was just full of all sorts of clues and items to connect the crime to the perpetrator.



Anna! What a great find.

Molding used to cover the nail in a kick plate (what is under kitchen cabinets, bath cabinets, and some furniture, where you toes go under) has a right angle on one side that sits on the floor and rounded on the top.

Picture frame molding and in crafts usually have rounded sides on both sides.

Have a headache but will look at your picts again.
IT was on the tv that LE as they were entering the house took a few pictures of the front door entrance..ground level.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:38:46 AM
Go back into hiding!!! It's better not knowing where you are, or what you're doing!! Any time you do come out, it's to do something like throw out stuffed animals for your niece, tear up signs, or deny a dog his water!!! If you have nothing nice to do, don't do anything at all!!

Ok, angry monkey again!
(http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Family-Guy/Angry-monkey.gif) YOU! YOU! YOU! ARGHHHHHH!!!

I have an idea -- next time Lee bends over like that would someone nearby please KICK HIM IN THE ASS!!!!! Lee:  don't be mad at the public for caring about Caylee you giant POS!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tater on December 14, 2008, 08:39:39 AM
Morning monkeys ... so, any word from George and Cindy? Still puttin' on at the Ritz?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I had a strange and horrible thought this morning and this is just my brain in the morning -- fuzzy. My thought was: what if the item found with the remains was a Find Caylee t-shirt? Then we would know someone in that family planted it there. Ok, I'm sorry. It's out there. I know. Not saying it is my theory, rather just a random and strange thought. My bet is still on a Winnie the Pooh crib sheet.

My other thought is that if I were in their shoes, my statement to the media, a one-time statement, would be something like this:

"I love my daughter and that will never change. But if she committed this crime, she must face the consequences. That is not up to me to decide. I love my granddaughter dearly. I will not tarnish her memory by selling her photos and interfering in the criminal case against my daughter. Please leave us alone so we can grieve."


I'll be surprised myself if the A's ever return to the home to live..It's my thought that the house will be sold as soon as possible..Too many memories of life gone wrong there..If they are not charged with obstruction and the like,I see them going forward in this life as potential millionaires..Movie,books,appearances,etc...They will be paid handsomly and there will be nothing anyone can do about it.Not even Casey....They will live a life of luxury in materials but will be two of the saddest people on the planet because when it comes down to what's real,a loving family and good friends is what it's all about..They will have neither..We know money doesn't buy happiness..I'd rather have one"I love you Mom" from my daughter as opposed to any amount of money..Money doesn't buy love either.They have only to look at what Casey has done to see that..The life the A's knew is gone now..

It is my prayer that all guilty parties in this case are brought to justice.Anyone that participated in the crime or cover-up,let justice prevail and they are held accountable!!!!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 08:40:29 AM
Morning monkeys ... so, any word from George and Cindy? Still puttin' on at the Ritz?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I had a strange and horrible thought this morning and this is just my brain in the morning -- fuzzy. My thought was: what if the item found with the remains was a Find Caylee t-shirt? Then we would know someone in that family planted it there. Ok, I'm sorry. It's out there. I know. Not saying it is my theory, rather just a random and strange thought. My bet is still on a Winnie the Pooh crib sheet.

My other thought is that if I were in their shoes, my statement to the media, a one-time statement, would be something like this:

"I love my daughter and that will never change. But if she committed this crime, she must face the consequences. That is not up to me to decide. I love my granddaughter dearly. I will not tarnish her memory by selling her photos and interfering in the criminal case against my daughter. Please leave us alone so we can grieve."


Not to mention the state has a case against her because of what her parents said in the first place. i cant help but understand why they are so naive.  Its sad but true. I was the driver in a horrific car accident that ended the life of my best friend in the whole wide world...so it was technically an accidental killing...his family was adamant that i was under the influence...and i swear they took me to court for months..2 months into my criminal trial all of my charges were dropped because i was not under the influence...dont get me wrong i had smoked marijuana at 11 am..my car accident was at 10pm..marijuana is inactive after four hours.....but to get to my point..my parents defended me arm and foot. thank god for me, my case was the truth and nothing but the truth..but just like everyone else, my parents did not know what really happened, of course i gave them my coarse of events but it was not definitive..but yet they protected me during my moments of horror.    Missing alonzo was the hardest part of living after my accident...i suffered depression, p.t.s.d, and i totally lost me for months..i couldnt eat..i was solemn..quiet..reserved..all i wanted to do was be with my best friend..and i would wear his clothes to ease the pain...As sooon as i heard cindy talking all that bull that kc couldnt sleep in her room, much less be in ther without someone being with her...because of all the pictues of caylee. Which parent of a missing child cant stand to look at their childs face?? she was supposed to be missing caylee..not being haunted by her picture. this girl is stonecold this is why i know kc is a sociopath...my best friend died in an accident..a car accident..and its been 2 years and i still suffer.. i never once had to fake cry in court..my compassion is the real deal...casey poking and wiping her eyes is her trying to unleash some tears..she has no remorse...thats why i know she did it on purpose...

Casey seemed to resume living her life after caylee disapeared..even during the time she was trying to get rid of the evidence...i dont think there was her baby bed sheet in the bag...but maybe like someone had mentioned earlier...caysees clothes that may have been saturated with body fluids..and maybe a white residue that they are trying to exclude from the babys linens...

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:41:32 AM
I know this is a sick thought, but ..  nobody smelled a body decomposing in that area before the storms hit? And  while it might not be a well-trodden area, would the water have masked the odor all that time? (And at what point does the body not smell? Only once all of the soft tissue is gone?)

Don't know if anyone answered this yet, but YES, water would mask the odor. Just like a toilet bowl, if you know what I mean. They water in the bowl masks any odors when you flush! Actually so that on a tv show. I would guess it would be the same thing. I also don't think someone walking by would smell anything unless they were close enough. I don't know, that's just what I think. I'm no expert, that's for sure!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:42:40 AM
I know this is a sick thought, but ..  nobody smelled a body decomposing in that area before the storms hit? And  while it might not be a well-trodden area, would the water have masked the odor all that time? (And at what point does the body not smell? Only once all of the soft tissue is gone?)

I think the smell would only be gone when all soft tissue was gone, yes. As for why no one smelled it. I don't know. Is there a small pond there??? I thought I heard that. I think the water form the storms and the lack of foot travel through the area masked it. Someone may have caught a whif and brushed it off as animal remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: OriginalKat on December 14, 2008, 08:45:16 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 08:48:17 AM
Its not a money but it is angry.  Mayby Brandi can make it a monkey.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 08:49:23 AM
Amen Tater! I have said before what a foolish "woman" Casey is to have traded her daughter's love for ... WHAT exactly? A party? Her so-called freedom? Well, how's the free life, ya beyotch Casey? Not so great I bet.

Caylee would have loved Casey forever, without condition, without hesitation. She woud have seen past all her faults and given her the best gift ever -- her pure love. How dare Casey throw Caylee away like yesterday's trash.  :smt092


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 08:49:46 AM
me again for my comments what its worth  ::MonkeyLaugh:: damned dial up here in oz is as slower than a diet of red meat  ::MonkeyHaHa::  DNA will squish that nanny theory right out the door.  All the lies, will actually work towards the prosecutors.  Cindy and George are NOT the grieving grandparents.  They knew caylee was dead, and Casey killed her.  What Cin and George got involved in, was a big media circus, and they truely must have thrived on it all.  Get offered 2 k for one pic of caylee, etc.  They fed off it, and prolly in their life, they no longer had to worry about money, (eg, one pic of caylee, we will pay your debts)  It also (sad to say this) brought excitement to their lives.  I am sure I read somewhere, that george told Casey she will never have to work again. (apologys if Im wrong)  And as hard as it is for us normal people to even fathom, in all respect for dear little caylee, that whole anthony family are scum feeders. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 08:52:06 AM
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Sorry for being such an angry monkey this morning. Frustrated monkey is even more like it! Ok, I'll get off my banana crate(er uh soapbox)now!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 08:52:50 AM
I know this is a sick thought, but ..  nobody smelled a body decomposing in that area before the storms hit? And  while it might not be a well-trodden area, would the water have masked the odor all that time? (And at what point does the body not smell? Only once all of the soft tissue is gone?)

I think the smell would only be gone when all soft tissue was gone, yes. As for why no one smelled it. I don't know. Is there a small pond there??? I thought I heard that. I think the water form the storms and the lack of foot travel through the area masked it. Someone may have caught a whif and brushed it off as animal remains.


Caseys car got the worst of the state of decomposition..sadly when the body inflates with remaining gas..and deflates... the rain most definitely kept people from roaming too far into the brush where the bag was found. im sure after the soft tissue was all dry or gone the smell was not potent enough to get any attention..oh i forgot to ask..have you ever smelled a swamp?? they stink really bad...i have one behind my house and sometimes at night you walk outside and its like WHEW some frogs are stinkiiiinggg!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on December 14, 2008, 08:56:39 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 09:00:20 AM
OK, I like this monkey's face. He's saying WTF????  ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: BTgirl on December 14, 2008, 09:03:05 AM
OK, I like this monkey's face. He's saying WTF????  ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:03:08 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.


Neck breaking and household weapons can still be used against caylee..but self-defense? self defense against whooo? a 2 year old? I completely agree casey was plotting on getting rid of her parents, and sooon.. " i cant wait till its just us girls"... "she hasnt moved out yet'....blah blah blah...casey wanted independence...she didnt know all she had to do was get her lazy pill popping ass off the couch and get a job..then you can be independent...but no she wanted to kill her mom...yes cindy..((((shes the one with the life insurance))) but im sure george would have to go too since im sure even then he was the beneficiary......so self-defense?? is that why she fattened everyone up on ill thoughts of her parents?? The molestation by her dad...so she could have heat of passion defense..she was sloppy, she wouldhave fucked that murder up real bad too.   OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 09:03:17 AM
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Sorry for being such an angry monkey this morning. Frustrated monkey is even more like it! Ok, I'll get off my banana crate(er uh soapbox)now!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

here quietmonkey, have a meat pie from oz.  They calm us down.
Call it soul food  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:10:34 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

I had to jump ahead a bunch to catch up to ya'll! OKAY, HERE IT GOES AND DON'T GET PIZZED!!!!!! I haven't seen a response to the A's new attorney that was on Geraldo last night! What does everyone think!!?? I almost think I like him!!???  ::MonkeyEek:: My sister was here & we were both like OMG! he actually acts like he has some sense! He didn't try to deny or cover anything about the A's feelings at this point either! I'm starting to see a very slight change in the A's thinking with this new attorney! We need a transcript from last night; I would love to hear him again! I don't even remember his name!!!  ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Buckeye on December 14, 2008, 09:14:38 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

If that is true, then when she found Caylee "accidentally" NOT breathing, wouldn't she have removed the tape and tried to resuscitate??  If it was an accident I think she would have removed the tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:17:08 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

I had to jump ahead a bunch to catch up to ya'll! OKAY, HERE IT GOES AND DON'T GET PIZZED!!!!!! I haven't seen a response to the A's new attorney that was on Geraldo last night! What does everyone think!!?? I almost think I like him!!???  ::MonkeyEek:: My sister was here & we were both like OMG! he actually acts like he has some sense! He didn't try to deny or cover anything about the A's feelings at this point either! I'm starting to see a very slight change in the A's thinking with this new attorney! We need a transcript from last night; I would love to hear him again! I don't even remember his name!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


 
 Oh i like that guy too, there last defense attorney couldnt get them to open up like a super glued clam....He was saying that they are awaiting the dna results from the fbi from the little baby, and they will grieve with the news on their own.....he also said that its extremely hard because they have lots of unanswered questions from casey....but unlike us in this forum..the answers she didnt give makes us think shes guilty..they think that the things she didnt say are what are keeping her innocent.. oh boy.. i hope the ME drops a smelling salt bomb on them..not to make them hurt....they are already hurting..but so they can learn what their daughter was capable of doing, and so they could get counseling...for the future..of how they are going to be a part of their daughters life..while still being able to accept she is a spiteful murderer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 09:18:53 AM
OK, going to go for a bit, to do some NON monkey things.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Just want to say if anyone in the A's family, or anyone who happens to know them reads this. I want to tell them NOW, before it's way too late, to do the right thing by Caylee!! Stop defending KC and putting her first. Things like saying "if it's her it doesn't mean KC did it" and LA removing a memorial in honor of Caylee just dumbfounds everyone and makes them look totally suspicious, and not to mention sleezy!! Do the right thing NOW and show the world that KC does not mean more to you than precious Caylee!!! Not saying you should not love your daughter anymore, but don't put her before Caylee. Caylee is not here to defend herself. You should be defending her, not KC, she has lawyers for that.

OK maybe that was a waste of my time, but felt I had to say it. I'm sure most everyone will say it IS too late, but I think they still have time to redeem themselves a little bit atleast. LA, I don't know, maybe not at all!

Be back later monkeys, maybe I'll be a little quieter then?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 09:19:53 AM
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Sorry for being such an angry monkey this morning. Frustrated monkey is even more like it! Ok, I'll get off my banana crate(er uh soapbox)now!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

here quietmonkey, have a meat pie from oz.  They calm us down.
Call it soul food  ::MonkeyRoll::

Mmmm, thanks Lucinda!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:20:16 AM
I know this is a sick thought, but ..  nobody smelled a body decomposing in that area before the storms hit? And  while it might not be a well-trodden area, would the water have masked the odor all that time? (And at what point does the body not smell? Only once all of the soft tissue is gone?)

Don't know if anyone answered this yet, but YES, water would mask the odor. Just like a toilet bowl, if you know what I mean. They water in the bowl masks any odors when you flush! Actually so that on a tv show. I would guess it would be the same thing. I also don't think someone walking by would smell anything unless they were close enough. I don't know, that's just what I think. I'm no expert, that's for sure!


OMG!!!! What a picture I'm getting here!!!! I don't know if it's the water or the flushing that's doing the masking, but sometimes I'd swear I see green smoke comin outta a bathroom & I have to burn rubber outta there for some fresh air!  ::MonkeyShocked:: The older I get the weaker my stomach gets, i just can't take it, I tell ya!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Tater on December 14, 2008, 09:20:48 AM
Amen Tater! I have said before what a foolish "woman" Casey is to have traded her daughter's love for ... WHAT exactly? A party? Her so-called freedom? Well, how's the free life, ya beyotch Casey? Not so great I bet.

Caylee would have loved Casey forever, without condition, without hesitation. She woud have seen past all her faults and given her the best gift ever -- her pure love. How dare Casey throw Caylee away like yesterday's trash.  :smt092

Sign of the times.It won't be getting any better.:(

Luke 12:53

 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 09:24:03 AM
Amen Tater! I have said before what a foolish "woman" Casey is to have traded her daughter's love for ... WHAT exactly? A party? Her so-called freedom? Well, how's the free life, ya beyotch Casey? Not so great I bet.

Caylee would have loved Casey forever, without condition, without hesitation. She woud have seen past all her faults and given her the best gift ever -- her pure love. How dare Casey throw Caylee away like yesterday's trash.  :smt092

Sign of the times.It won't be getting any better.:(

Luke 12:53

 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.



Haven't left yet. Just wanted to tell you tater, you look beautiful swinging on that ornament!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:25:32 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

I had to jump ahead a bunch to catch up to ya'll! OKAY, HERE IT GOES AND DON'T GET PIZZED!!!!!! I haven't seen a response to the A's new attorney that was on Geraldo last night! What does everyone think!!?? I almost think I like him!!???  ::MonkeyEek:: My sister was here & we were both like OMG! he actually acts like he has some sense! He didn't try to deny or cover anything about the A's feelings at this point either! I'm starting to see a very slight change in the A's thinking with this new attorney! We need a transcript from last night; I would love to hear him again! I don't even remember his name!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


 
 Oh i like that guy too, there last defense attorney couldnt get them to open up like a super glued clam....He was saying that they are awaiting the dna results from the fbi from the little baby, and they will grieve with the news on their own.....he also said that its extremely hard because they have lots of unanswered questions from casey....but unlike us in this forum..the answers she didnt give makes us think shes guilty..they think that the things she didnt say are what are keeping her innocent.. oh boy.. i hope the ME drops a smelling salt bomb on them..not to make them hurt....they are already hurting..but so they can learn what their daughter was capable of doing, and so they could get counseling...for the future..of how they are going to be a part of their daughters life..while still being able to accept she is a spiteful murderer


That 1% chance that Caylee's alive is gone now! We have not heard from them publicly since the remains were found. I'm anxious to see how they react with this new attorney, to see how he's advised them & if they have changed their tune! It should be interesting! Also, did anyone notice that he's in a wheelchair? Wonder what happened?!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

I wanted to kick him when he started saying that crap. No. I NEVER drugged my daughter to sleep. GMAFB, Dr. Baden. It is still murder!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:27:19 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

If that is true, then when she found Caylee "accidentally" NOT breathing, wouldn't she have removed the tape and tried to resuscitate??  If it was an accident I think she would have removed the tape.

Thats where your forensics come in... she didnt remove the tape because at 4;30 casey didnt get a hold of her mom..****((cell phone pings say she never left the area after her dad left to work the 16..))) giving her enough time to knock the baby out with meds, chloroform..and tape so the baby doesnt draw attention to her trunk........so at 5 she heads totony lazarros apt with baby in the cargo area...gets to tonys..he just came back from full saill...hes tired..he changes...they hang out a little..and he wants to go rent a movie...casey already knew she was going to spend the night that night bcuz she made sure to tell daddy before she eft home that she had an event at the hard rock hotel and she was staying over night with jeff hopkins..whatev...Casey and Anthony came back from blockbuster..pick up papa murphys pizza...head to anthonys home..eat pizza...and oh casey is soooo sweet she want to take out the trash....she takes this time of leaving the apt to check on her baby that she had basically left to roast like a turkey in the oven for 3 hours....she pops the trunk...caylees gone..u can tell..she throws the trash bag in..slams the trunk..and pretends like nothing happened..shes gotten good at that..!! hence why there was a white trash bag with pizza boxes and troys*anthonys rommate* personal mail that had been discarded in the trash...in her trunk when they found the car...it was inexplicably still in her trunk...full of maggots...why did she throw out caylee and keep this bag? LAZYNESS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cecilita on December 14, 2008, 09:27:36 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.


Neck breaking and household weapons can still be used against caylee..but self-defense? self defense against whooo? a 2 year old? I completely agree casey was plotting on getting rid of her parents, and sooon.. " i cant wait till its just us girls"... "she hasnt moved out yet'....blah blah blah...casey wanted independence...she didnt know all she had to do was get her lazy pill popping ass off the couch and get a job..then you can be independent...but no she wanted to kill her mom...yes cindy..((((shes the one with the life insurance))) but im sure george would have to go too since im sure even then he was the beneficiary......so self-defense?? is that why she fattened everyone up on ill thoughts of her parents?? The molestation by her dad...so she could have heat of passion defense..she was sloppy, she wouldhave fucked that murder up real bad too.   OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"
can be possible that George and casey were planning to kill cindy? I do not see casey to make chloroform by herself or if buy it. I believe was George idea to sleep first cindy and then kill her. Maybe the deal was to give casey the house after cindy is gone and he will have the life insurance.
And caylee saw the ingridients or the chlorform and play with it and died by accident. If it was only caseys plan, how she will explain cindy or george if the Chlorofrom is delivered in her house when she knows that George is in the house in the mornings I believe that Cindy and George will be suspicius......
I Think that George has something to do with this mess......i was in shock when I saw george giving his declaration to LE...he practicly told them was a body in the trunk of the car and he threw up when he discribed the odor as he was discribing to see and have at any time caylee's descomposed body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: funkymonkey on December 14, 2008, 09:28:46 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked and answered.

Does anyone find it odd that LP said on NG 2 days before the body was discovered "don't be surprised if LE already knows where the body is"??

Thank you for having this board. I enjoy reading it and all of your thoughts and opinions so much. You should all be detectives and psychologists!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:30:40 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked and answered.

Does anyone find it odd that LP said on NG 2 days before the body was discovered "don't be surprised if LE already knows where the body is"??

Thank you for having this board. I enjoy reading it and all of your thoughts and opinions so much. You should all be detectives and psychologists!!


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Yes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: ShariVari on December 14, 2008, 09:31:18 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

I had to jump ahead a bunch to catch up to ya'll! OKAY, HERE IT GOES AND DON'T GET PIZZED!!!!!! I haven't seen a response to the A's new attorney that was on Geraldo last night! What does everyone think!!?? I almost think I like him!!???  ::MonkeyEek:: My sister was here & we were both like OMG! he actually acts like he has some sense! He didn't try to deny or cover anything about the A's feelings at this point either! I'm starting to see a very slight change in the A's thinking with this new attorney! We need a transcript from last night; I would love to hear him again! I don't even remember his name!!!  ::MonkeyEek::



I was impressed with him, too.  Maybe thought he should have worn a tie, though?  He seemed very believable and had an honest face.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Lee removes memorial.  Is this what a normal family does?  (click on the picture below to watch video)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/th_A1B01F2C_121308anthony-home1.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/?action=view&current=A1B01F2C_121308anthony-home1.flv)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: ShariVari on December 14, 2008, 09:33:20 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked and answered.

Does anyone find it odd that LP said on NG 2 days before the body was discovered "don't be surprised if LE already knows where the body is"??

Thank you for having this board. I enjoy reading it and all of your thoughts and opinions so much. You should all be detectives and psychologists!!


LP has been flapping his jaws about how we'll find her "in a few days" all along.  Remember when he said that the dumpster right by Tony's house would play a big part?  Hasn't yet.  I think LP has made a lot of predictions...one was bound to be right on, eventually...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 14, 2008, 09:35:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys! Didn't sleep much (sure I'm not the only one) and I can't get it out of my head this morning for some reason about CA going to that counselor, saying that KC was a sociopath and talk of filing for custody of Caylee. I know this has been discussed before at length but I can't seem to get it out of my head this morning that for a counselor to even suggest filing for custody of a child, especially from the natural mother, there would have to be alot more involved than CA simply sharing with the counselor KC's stealing $$ and even her going out partying, it would have to rise to the level of believing that the child is in danger. CA also stated to RP (I think "P" is the last name?) that the counselor said tht KC was a sociopath - a counselor wouldn't base that assessment solely on stealing $$ and partying either. CA had to have diclosed alot more to that counselor than anyone knows! Does LE have the authority to contact that counselor and access information regarding CA's meetings? I know here in Maine that a counselor is required by law to report any suspected child abuse/endangerment and if a client discloses any information to them regarding a child that involves possible abuse they have to tell the client that they are bound by law to report! If CA did disclose concerns about abuse against Caylee and this counselor didn't report and then this happened, that counselor could be in deep you know what. Another thing - sorry to be so long winded - if CA did disclose abuse, fear of abuse, concerns about Caylee's wellbeing with this counselor and now has made claims that she had no concerns for Caylee's safety being in jeopardy for those 31 days that she didn't see Caylee, could she be charged with endangering a child? It's clear that she didn't go out of her way to find Caylee until her and GA got the notice about KC's car at the tow lot. Any thoughts Monkey's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: ShariVari on December 14, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

If that is true, then when she found Caylee "accidentally" NOT breathing, wouldn't she have removed the tape and tried to resuscitate??  If it was an accident I think she would have removed the tape.

Thats where your forensics come in... she didnt remove the tape because at 4;30 casey didnt get a hold of her mom..****((cell phone pings say she never left the area after her dad left to work the 16..))) giving her enough time to knock the baby out with meds, chloroform..and tape so the baby doesnt draw attention to her trunk........so at 5 she heads totony lazarros apt with baby in the cargo area...gets to tonys..he just came back from full saill...hes tired..he changes...they hang out a little..and he wants to go rent a movie...casey already knew she was going to spend the night that night bcuz she made sure to tell daddy before she eft home that she had an event at the hard rock hotel and she was staying over night with jeff hopkins..whatev...Casey and Anthony came back from blockbuster..pick up papa murphys pizza...head to anthonys home..eat pizza...and oh casey is soooo sweet she want to take out the trash....she takes this time of leaving the apt to check on her baby that she had basically left to roast like a turkey in the oven for 3 hours....she pops the trunk...caylees gone..u can tell..she throws the trash bag in..slams the trunk..and pretends like nothing happened..shes gotten good at that..!! hence why there was a white trash bag with pizza boxes and troys*anthonys rommate* personal mail that had been discarded in the trash...in her trunk when they found the car...it was inexplicably still in her trunk...full of maggots...why did she throw out caylee and keep this bag? LAZYNESS

wow.  i like this theory! good thinkin'! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 14, 2008, 09:37:13 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

The trouble with your idea of the tape over the mouth to force her to breathe the chloroform is that if Casey ever watched any movies or TV shows where someone is chloroformed, the perpetrator usually approaches the victim from behind and claps a saturated folded washcloth size piece of material across the mouth and nose. I don't think you have to be smack against the face, as I believe the fumes are pretty potent.

It's my belief that she taped her mouth so she could kill her without her crying out and alerting anyone that something was going on. My guess is she did it in her parents' house, but that is just my guess, and she could have killed her anywhere the car would take them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:37:37 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.


Neck breaking and household weapons can still be used against caylee..but self-defense? self defense against whooo? a 2 year old? I completely agree casey was plotting on getting rid of her parents, and sooon.. " i cant wait till its just us girls"... "she hasnt moved out yet'....blah blah blah...casey wanted independence...she didnt know all she had to do was get her lazy pill popping ass off the couch and get a job..then you can be independent...but no she wanted to kill her mom...yes cindy..((((shes the one with the life insurance))) but im sure george would have to go too since im sure even then he was the beneficiary......so self-defense?? is that why she fattened everyone up on ill thoughts of her parents?? The molestation by her dad...so she could have heat of passion defense..she was sloppy, she wouldhave fucked that murder up real bad too.   OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"
can be possible that George and casey were planning to kill cindy? I do not see casey to make chloroform by herself or if buy it. I believe was George idea to sleep first cindy and then kill her. Maybe the deal was to give casey the house after cindy is gone and he will have the life insurance.
And caylee saw the ingridients or the chlorform and play with it and died by accident. If it was only caseys plan, how she will explain cindy or george if the Chlorofrom is delivered in her house when she knows that George is in the house in the mornings I believe that Cindy and George will be suspicius......
I Think that George has something to do with this mess......i was in shock when I saw george giving his declaration to LE...he practicly told them was a body in the trunk of the car and he threw up when he discribed the odor as he was discribing to see and have at any time caylee's descomposed body.

I dont think george would have had the capacity to premeditate his wife murder with his daughter..that upto that point had no homicidal ways...casey acted on her own..HELLO george was a cop, and he detailed cars..her trunk would have been cleaned wayyy early on if he was in on it...and a baby wont just play with chloroform and die..it takes time...its has to attack the nervous system that will ccut off enough oxygen from your brain and heart to where you just go into cardiac arrest or asphyxiation. He didnt have to see his grandbabys body..he saw the stain..he smelled that smell...its unforgettable..he got sick because as he was recanting his story to the FBI sans cindy he was finally able to think on his own and thats probably the first time he had actually invisioned the baby rotting in there.....George is actually the most cooperative of that entire family..He is calm cool and collected...he doesnt shake *an older man at his age, with heart problems can hardly hide when they're scared'....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 09:38:29 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:38:55 AM
OKAY, LAST NIGHT WAS  THE FIRST TIME I HAD SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT DR. BADEN!!!!!
I noticed a slight change in him too! His wife is not supposed to influence him!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: All of the defense was standing around at the site acting like a bunch of idiots, making it sound like them not being allowed in the crime scene had never happened in the history of the world!! Didn't Red say last night that the defense is NEVER allowed in like that!! Did I missread his post!!?? WTF is the defense trying to do having Lee & the other experts crowded around out there like morons. People that are out of the loop will think they really are being denied! GGGGGRRRRRR!! They make me ill!!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Lucinda on December 14, 2008, 09:40:09 AM
night you monkeys, as you are awakening, Lucinda is off to bed.  1am here.  (((hugs)))) love you all, and love caylee (((hugs))))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:40:54 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:43:12 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.


Neck breaking and household weapons can still be used against caylee..but self-defense? self defense against whooo? a 2 year old? I completely agree casey was plotting on getting rid of her parents, and sooon.. " i cant wait till its just us girls"... "she hasnt moved out yet'....blah blah blah...casey wanted independence...she didnt know all she had to do was get her lazy pill popping ass off the couch and get a job..then you can be independent...but no she wanted to kill her mom...yes cindy..((((shes the one with the life insurance))) but im sure george would have to go too since im sure even then he was the beneficiary......so self-defense?? is that why she fattened everyone up on ill thoughts of her parents?? The molestation by her dad...so she could have heat of passion defense..she was sloppy, she wouldhave fucked that murder up real bad too.   OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"
can be possible that George and casey were planning to kill cindy? I do not see casey to make chloroform by herself or if buy it. I believe was George idea to sleep first cindy and then kill her. Maybe the deal was to give casey the house after cindy is gone and he will have the life insurance.
And caylee saw the ingridients or the chlorform and play with it and died by accident. If it was only caseys plan, how she will explain cindy or george if the Chlorofrom is delivered in her house when she knows that George is in the house in the mornings I believe that Cindy and George will be suspicius......
I Think that George has something to do with this mess......i was in shock when I saw george giving his declaration to LE...he practicly told them was a body in the trunk of the car and he threw up when he discribed the odor as he was discribing to see and have at any time caylee's descomposed body.

I dont think george would have had the capacity to premeditate his wife murder with his daughter..that upto that point had no homicidal ways...casey acted on her own..HELLO george was a cop, and he detailed cars..her trunk would have been cleaned wayyy early on if he was in on it...and a baby wont just play with chloroform and die..it takes time...its has to attack the nervous system that will ccut off enough oxygen from your brain and heart to where you just go into cardiac arrest or asphyxiation. He didnt have to see his grandbabys body..he saw the stain..he smelled that smell...its unforgettable..he got sick because as he was recanting his story to the FBI sans cindy he was finally able to think on his own and thats probably the first time he had actually invisioned the baby rotting in there.....George is actually the most cooperative of that entire family..He is calm cool and collected...he doesnt shake *an older man at his age, with heart problems can hardly hide when they're scared'..




also casey wouldnt need the chloroform to be delivered...she could make it from lots of the items in her house....bleach, acetone, pool shock..pool chlorine..those pesticides, ether (alcohol)...a mixture of any of these two could possibly make the chloroform that was so significant in the trunk because it was so putrid....i bet she just threw them all in to kill the smell...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 09:43:14 AM
Personally, I do NOT consider drugging a child with chloroform or other substance to "put her to sleep" and then killing her in the act to be an accident. More importantly, I don't believe it is an accident under the law either. And I wish people like Baden and Padilla would STOP using the word accident. An accident to me is a child getting into the medicine cabinet and taking something and dying. Yes, the parent should have made sure the child did not get to the medicine, but it was an accident. Now, walking over and giving the child a substance he or she should not be ingesting period (chrlorform, xanex) or in amounts he or she should not be ingesting (cold medicine) is not accidental, it is intentional. We'll see if the prosecution can prove its 1st degree murder case. IMO they can and will. 

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m053.htm (http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m053.htm)
MURDER, FIRST DEGREE - In order for someone to be found guilty of first degree murder the government must prove that the person killed another person; the person killed the other person with malice aforethought; and the killing was premeditated.

To kill with malice aforethought means to kill either deliberately and intentionally or recklessly with extreme disregard for human life.

Premeditation means with planning or deliberation. The amount of time needed for premeditation of a killing depends on the person and the circumstances. It must be long enough, after forming the intent to kill, for the killer to have been fully conscious of the intent and to have considered the killing.


http://www.lectlaw.com/def/a145.htm (http://www.lectlaw.com/def/a145.htm)

ACCIDENT - The happening of an event without the concurrence of the will of the person by whose agency it was caused or the happening of an event without any human agency; the burning of a house in consequence of a fire being made for the ordinary purpose of warming the house which is an accident of the first kind; the burning of the same house by lightning would have been an accident of the second kind.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Capital+Murder (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Capital+Murder)

snipped

Some murders involving extreme recklessness on the part of the defendant cause extreme public outrage. In People v. Dellinger, 783 P.2d 200 (Cal. 1989), the defendant, Leland Dellinger, was found guilty of the murder of his two-yearold stepdaughter. The primary cause of the child's death was a fractured skull caused by trauma to the head. However, other ound guilty of the murder of his two-yearold stepdaughter. The primary cause of the child's death was a fractured skull caused by trauma to the head. However, other evidence showed that the child had large quantities of cocaine in her system when she died. Moreover, her mother discovered that the defendant had fed the child wine through a baby bottle.Due to the defendant's "wanton disregard for life," the verdict of murder was proper, according to the California Supreme Court.

A person who unintentionally causes the death of another person also may be charged with murder under the depraved-heart theory. Depraved-heart murder refers to a killing that results from gross negligence. For example, suppose that a man is practicing shooting his gun in his backyard, located in a suburban area. If the man accidentally shoots and kills someone, he can be charged with murder under the depraved-heart theory, if gross Negligence is proven.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 09:43:22 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18271333/detail.html

Casey Anthony's Attorney Turned Away From Search Scene
Saturday, December 13, 2008 – updated: 6:44 am EST December 14, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney and his search team were turned away from the location where a child's remains were found near the home of his client's parents.  (My comment: This was strictly for the cameras.  The judge had already ruled?  Why even bother trying to get to the crime scene unless the idea was to have buddy Geraldo interview them?)

But Jose Baez did show up at George and Cindy Anthony's home to inspect it, Saturday.

Baez arrived at the discovery scene with nationally-know forensics expert Dr. Henry Lee, who has worked on high profile cases involving O.J. Simpson, Laci Peterson, and Jon Benet Ramsey.

But investigators would not allow them to look over the area where the remains were discovered Thursday.

"We should be able to observe… not from a distance or have qualified people in there," said Baez.

A larger FBI team returned Saturday to the scene where the remains of a small child were found near Caylee Marie Anthony's home. The team helped the Orange County Sheriff's Office process the crime scene and the area around it by sifting through buckets of dirt.

Baez took several items from the Anthony home. His search follows a search by detectives late Thursday night and Friday morning.

Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, also showed up at the home Saturday afternoon. When he arrived, he ripped up a makeshift memorial made of flowers, teddy bears, and pictures. The memorial was placed in the Anthony’s yard Saturday night.

Orange County Sheriff's officials say evidence is mounting that the skull belongs to toddler Caylee Anthony. Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, reported the girl missing in July and was charged with first-degree murder before the remains were found.

A utility worker found the remains Thursday, about a half-mile from Anthony's home.

One of Anthony's attorneys said Friday that "anthropological measurements and hair color" of the remains matched Caylee.

The Orange County Medical Examiner's office and FBI forensics experts say it could be a week before conclusive DNA results are released.

George and Cindy Anthony spent Saturday night away from their home for the third night in row.

"They want to be left alone," said their attorney, Brad Conway. "They want to grieve and go through the process without the publicity that's been focused on them so long."

The residence on Hopespring Drive was cleared Friday morning as a crime scene and George and Cindy Anthony returned there in the afternoon for a short time(watch video | see images) after spending Thursday night at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel (see map).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 09:43:48 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!
Yeah that's who she looks like, but I still think she looks like a 60 year old tore up drag queen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: danabar on December 14, 2008, 09:44:44 AM
Hi monkeys, i've only posted several times here, mostly a lurker but i love this forum.  You folks here know so much about this case and are on top of everything.  I would just like to say that I think G/C are so overcome with guilt about the way they raised KC that they are now trying to "do the right thing" and stand by her......in their deprived minds they think this is what will make them look like good parents to the public.  However, it is backfiring on them.  We all know there is a different approach they could take and still be seen as loving parents.  I bet they think everyday about what they could of , should of done and didn't. Guilt is a heavy burden to carry around, especially when your granddaughter is dead and your daughter probably killed her.  They have no family or true friends that support them.  The whole family is "absolutely" dysfunctional.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: maybe tomorrow on December 14, 2008, 09:44:49 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?

If that is true, then when she found Caylee "accidentally" NOT breathing, wouldn't she have removed the tape and tried to resuscitate??  If it was an accident I think she would have removed the tape.

Thats where your forensics come in... she didnt remove the tape because at 4;30 casey didnt get a hold of her mom..****((cell phone pings say she never left the area after her dad left to work the 16..))) giving her enough time to knock the baby out with meds, chloroform..and tape so the baby doesnt draw attention to her trunk........so at 5 she heads totony lazarros apt with baby in the cargo area...gets to tonys..he just came back from full saill...hes tired..he changes...they hang out a little..and he wants to go rent a movie...casey already knew she was going to spend the night that night bcuz she made sure to tell daddy before she eft home that she had an event at the hard rock hotel and she was staying over night with jeff hopkins..whatev...Casey and Anthony came back from blockbuster..pick up papa murphys pizza...head to anthonys home..eat pizza...and oh casey is soooo sweet she want to take out the trash....she takes this time of leaving the apt to check on her baby that she had basically left to roast like a turkey in the oven for 3 hours....she pops the trunk...caylees gone..u can tell..she throws the trash bag in..slams the trunk..and pretends like nothing happened..shes gotten good at that..!! hence why there was a white trash bag with pizza boxes and troys*anthonys rommate* personal mail that had been discarded in the trash...in her trunk when they found the car...it was inexplicably still in her trunk...full of maggots...why did she throw out caylee and keep this bag? LAZYNESS

WOW, that completely makes sense - Your good!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 09:45:49 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 14, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
night you monkeys, as you are awakening, Lucinda is off to bed.  1am here.  (((hugs)))) love you all, and love caylee (((hugs))))

'Nite Lucinda. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 09:50:07 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)
SCAAARRRYYYYY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:50:41 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!
Yeah that's who she looks like, but I still think she looks like a 60 year old tore up drag queen.

So does Donatella Versace, someone find a picture!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:52:02 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)


OMG!!!!!! YOU ALREADY FOUND A PICTURE!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: GEES, THAT'S HARD TO LOOK AT!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:52:35 AM
KLAAS goodmorning...hey would u mind giving me your outlook on this...

 OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:53:24 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)


OMG!!!!!! YOU ALREADY FOUND A PICTURE!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: GEES, THAT'S HARD TO LOOK AT!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::



IT MAY BE JUST ME, BUT I THINK LINDA BADEN HAS HER BEAT!!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: goodnmad on December 14, 2008, 09:53:38 AM
Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)

OMG!!!!!! YOU ALREADY FOUND A PICTURE!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: GEES, THAT'S HARD TO LOOK AT!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::

hmm, is this scarier or the creepy doll face from yesterday morning? I say this is b/c it is a real live person.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 09:54:24 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)


OMG!!!!!! YOU ALREADY FOUND A PICTURE!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: GEES, THAT'S HARD TO LOOK AT!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::

HAHA she is a dead ringer for ms versace..except she may bee a little more puffy..and looks like shes been drinking for acouple days...but thats just my opinion


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 09:55:43 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!
Yeah that's who she looks like, but I still think she looks like a 60 year old tore up drag queen.

So does Donatella Versace, someone find a picture!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 09:57:46 AM
ANNA, Bless your heart, you used my quote last night!  ::MonkeyRoll:: But you left out a word; it's BIG "ASS" HORSE TEETH PRINTS all over  that duct tape!  ::MonkeyTongue::  And i still think they'll find them!!!!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on December 14, 2008, 09:58:24 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

I had to jump ahead a bunch to catch up to ya'll! OKAY, HERE IT GOES AND DON'T GET PIZZED!!!!!! I haven't seen a response to the A's new attorney that was on Geraldo last night! What does everyone think!!?? I almost think I like him!!???  ::MonkeyEek:: My sister was here & we were both like OMG! he actually acts like he has some sense! He didn't try to deny or cover anything about the A's feelings at this point either! I'm starting to see a very slight change in the A's thinking with this new attorney! We need a transcript from last night; I would love to hear him again! I don't even remember his name!!!  ::MonkeyEek::



I was impressed with him, too.  Maybe thought he should have worn a tie, though?  He seemed very believable and had an honest face.




I can't see why anyone would get pizzed. I personaly think the A's should be left alone to grieve. I think they should have been left alone from day one. They were doing EVERYTHING they could to find Caylee. CASEY caused all this madness and her parents to cleaned up her mess as usual. Caylee was/is LOVED very much by her grandparents. I do understand the A's defended Casey BUT they were only going what she said, and in phone calls you could see Cindy pressing Casey for Info, like she didn't beleive her. And someone posted before that the house will be sold, I agree. I was thinking of that when I was watching Dateline. I can't blame them. I'm sure the A's already know they are gonna look like fools because they defended Casey. What parent really wants to beleive their child is a murderer?? This is someone they THOUGHT they knew. JMO...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SS on December 14, 2008, 09:58:52 AM
I also read in a magazine today that Casey could have been planning on killing her parents also, they said that was why she had lookied up neckbreaking and household weapons, and also why she started the rumor about her getting the house and taking over the payments and stuff.......I wonder if given the time before Cindy called the cops id she might not have slipped in one night and killed GEorge and Cindy too....Then she could say that the same people that had Caylee had killed her parents...........if this is true this girl is really looney!!!!!!!!
I had wondered that when they said Amy had already changed her to address to their house. I think the A's don't let it soak in that they could have been next if C hadn't called LE that day.




Great thought!!!  I had forgotten about Casey telling Amy about her parents turning the house over to her.  Perhaps she had planned to get rid of all of them and couldn't follow through with it after Caylee actually died.  I always thought it strange how Casey thought she was going to become the owner of the family home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 09:59:01 AM
KLAAS goodmorning...hey would u mind giving me your outlook on this...

 OOOOo how bout this..i totally forgot to ask..what do you guys think of casey placing caylees naked dolly in the carseat...and left it there until the car was found...dilusional?? oh my daughters dead now..lets tidy the backseat..oh here dolly you sit here...effing whacko...she said it herself in her texts to tony the morning after she was caught..."its my fault, i left my daughter with a psycho".....  ....  .. .. .. .she had previously stated in her first jail conversation with cindy when she said "uhh its not my fault"

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm having a difficult time understanding how someone like Casey thinks.  There may very well have been some symbolism in the doll being placed in the carseat that way (if indeed it was).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 09:59:10 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 10:03:30 AM
By the way, the new attorney for the Anthony's appears to be wheelchair bound.  I don't know if permanent or what, just something I noticed when Geraldo interviewed him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:05:31 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

True, last night he seemed to be a really nice guy. Very sensible the way he talked to Geraldo. My sis was over last night & we were in different rooms when he was on, watching, i ran in & we said at the same time, OMG! I kinda like him!!!??? Maybe we can find that clip today, somewhere!  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SS on December 14, 2008, 10:05:34 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?




I have always thought that giving a child anything except an over the counter medication or a prescription was a felony, regardless of what some mothers do to make their children sleep.  If someone dies during the act of a felony, it's Murder One.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 14, 2008, 10:06:58 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!

Monken shield your eyes

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/Alexandra_Berrocal/dversace1.jpg)
SCAAARRRYYYYY

HOly ****  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:07:16 AM
By the way, the new attorney for the Anthony's appears to be wheelchair bound.  I don't know if permanent or what, just something I noticed when Geraldo interviewed him.

So did I, Klaas, bless him!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 10:07:19 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.


The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

i liked him, i thought he sounded like he knew very much what he was talking about...but then again all we have been receiving lately is half a$$ answers and it was a breath of fresh air to finally hear from an attorney that answered all the questions, wasnt rude, and he seems to be maybe the turning point with the ants..im praying for them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 10:09:12 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

True, last night he seemed to be a really nice guy. Very sensible the way he talked to Geraldo. My sis was over last night & we were in different rooms when he was on, watching, i ran in & we said at the same time, OMG! I kinda like him!!!??? Maybe we can find that clip today, somewhere!  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope!

I saw him too and would agree. The new attorney is likable.

That show was the first time I saw Lee tear up the memorial in the yard too. He wasn't a happy camper. I like the new atty better than I like Lee!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:10:51 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

True, last night he seemed to be a really nice guy. Very sensible the way he talked to Geraldo. My sis was over last night & we were in different rooms when he was on, watching, i ran in & we said at the same time, OMG! I kinda like him!!!??? Maybe we can find that clip today, somewhere!  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope!
THanks Monken, I thought I read someone like him. I wonder how long it will take for them to run him off?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.


The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.




OMG!!!! THERE GOES MY BLOOD PRESSURE THIS MORNING!!!! I thought Michelle Bart was out of the equation, what the Hell is she doing still speaking for them, anyway!!!??? Tim Miller has already explained that you stupid jerks!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: QuietMonkey on December 14, 2008, 10:11:51 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Here we go!!!!!!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:12:40 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

i liked him, i thought he sounded like he knew very much what he was talking about...but then again all we have been receiving lately is half a$$ answers and it was a breath of fresh air to finally hear from an attorney that answered all the questions, wasnt rude, and he seems to be maybe the turning point with the ants..im praying for them...
I hope you are right. I pray for them too, sometimes it is just hard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:13:39 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

True, last night he seemed to be a really nice guy. Very sensible the way he talked to Geraldo. My sis was over last night & we were in different rooms when he was on, watching, i ran in & we said at the same time, OMG! I kinda like him!!!??? Maybe we can find that clip today, somewhere!  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope!
THanks Monken, I thought I read someone like him. I wonder how long it will take for them to run him off?

If, for us, he's too good to be true......not long!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: BooMonkey on December 14, 2008, 10:14:00 AM
Hey Lucinda.............I work for the Scleroderma Foundation!!! If you call the 800# on Tuesday, I will send you literature!!!!!!!!!!  Small world :)

I want information too! My Mom died of Scleroderma when I was 13.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 10:14:36 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?




I have always thought that giving a child anything except an over the counter medication or a prescription was a felony, regardless of what some mothers do to make their children sleep.  If someone dies during the act of a felony, it's Murder One.

it sure is...and coming from casey you know it was with malice aforethought..who gives a baby sedatives? who places their baby in a trunk? and into a black dark bag? and into the woods....?? i just thank god this little girl will soon be laid to rest...with all these people out looking for her, thinking about her praying for her, i bet she has yet to rest that little angel...and i honestly believe it was caylee that helped us find her remains...it was too much coincidence..for it not to have been a miracle in disguise..in disguise of whats left of this baby...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 10:16:01 AM
I don't think it will serve the Anthony's well to go around flaunting that Tim (whom they respect) searched the area prior and found nothing.

The prosecution is likely to call Tim to testify and Tim will say it was under water, and while I'm here, ask me about the 4 days I spent in that house without once ever hearing Casey say her daughter's name.

I beleieve Tim's term was that she ran around the house like she was preparing for a "Cheerleader Competition".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:16:02 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:16:23 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Here we go!!!!!!! ::MonkeyConfused::
Michelle Bart needs to go home, wash her hair and leave Tim Miller alone. Suspicious circumstances leading to the findings? WTF? I take it back I will not pray for the Antony's until they wise up and realize what their stupid daughter did to Caylee and get rid of that blood sucking leech MB!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:16:59 AM
HEY GOODANMAD!!!
 I'm requesting permission to use your "petrified turd" headline for my sig. line after Christmas; unless you're going to use it, of course!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:17:09 AM
Okay, Monkeys. Ya'll make me laugh with the Donatella pictures. She does look like that Baden women minus 150 pounds.

I was reading back because I saw something about a new attorney.

The Anthony's have a new attorney and some monkeys like him? Was I just reading wrong or is that true? 

True, last night he seemed to be a really nice guy. Very sensible the way he talked to Geraldo. My sis was over last night & we were in different rooms when he was on, watching, i ran in & we said at the same time, OMG! I kinda like him!!!??? Maybe we can find that clip today, somewhere!  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope!
THanks Monken, I thought I read someone like him. I wonder how long it will take for them to run him off?

If, for us, he's too good to be true......not long!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That's what I was thinking not long at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:17:40 AM
Hey Lucinda.............I work for the Scleroderma Foundation!!! If you call the 800# on Tuesday, I will send you literature!!!!!!!!!!  Small world :)

I want information too! My Mom died of Scleroderma when I was 13.
I'm so sorry Boo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:18:08 AM
Bradley A Conway, Esq.
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Orlando, FL 32801
Phone: (407) 246-0803
Fax: (407) 246-7121








Thanks, Today!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:20:00 AM
Bradley A Conway, Esq.
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Brad Conway for Judge
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Florida State Marijuana Lawyer Listings (http://www.420magazine.com/forums/florida/79558-florida-state-marijuana-lawyer-listings.html)
Bradley Conway
390 North Orange Avenue, Suite 1630
Orlando, FL 32801
Phone: (407) 246-0803
Fax: (407) 246-7121








Thanks, Today!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Marijuana lawyer, WTF!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:20:04 AM
I believe she put duct tape on Caylee's mouth also, to make it appear she was abducted. One thing I am curious about is if Caylee's hands were bound, to also play into the abduction scenario.

I HOPE that all of you are correct that Caylee's mouth was duct taped AFTER she died and that Casey was planning her defense ahead of time in case the remains were discovered. I, however, don't think that Casey did much planning or she wouldn't have dumped Caylee in her own neighborhood like a bag of unwanted trash. I fear that the tape was placed on her lips before Casey killed her so she could not cry out. I believe that may be the extent of Casey's pre-planning other than to pre-meditate how not to be caught in the act.
I think Casey put the tape over Caylee's little mouth to force her to breath in the chloraform.I think it was an accident but it could have been prevented IF Cindy and George didn't run around living their lives on fantasy island.They knew how immature and unstable Casey was,how could they not try harder to protect Caylee when Casey took her away for a month?!?
I do not agree with Baden when he said this was an accident therefore it is not a capital murder case....Mama's drug their kids to sleep all the time.
What a jerk.....is he also on the defenses team?




I have always thought that giving a child anything except an over the counter medication or a prescription was a felony, regardless of what some mothers do to make their children sleep.  If someone dies during the act of a felony, it's Murder One.

it sure is...and coming from casey you know it was with malice aforethought..who gives a baby sedatives? who places their baby in a trunk? and into a black dark bag? and into the woods....?? i just thank god this little girl will soon be laid to rest...with all these people out looking for her, thinking about her praying for her, i bet she has yet to rest that little angel...and i honestly believe it was caylee that helped us find her remains...it was too much coincidence..for it not to have been a miracle in disguise..in disguise of whats left of this baby...
Do you really think the Ants will let her rest in peace and have a funeral for her. They are in such denial I truly believe even with DNA match, they still won't believe it is Caylee. They can't even call her by her own name, just that little girl. What will they put on her grave marker? Caylee or "that little girl"? I'm sorry for the rant I have decided I hate them all. I really need to get ready for church so I can pray for my hatred of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: cheeky monkey on December 14, 2008, 10:20:28 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.[/b

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Here we go!!!!!!! ::MonkeyConfused::
Michelle Bart needs to go home, wash her hair and leave Tim Miller alone. Suspicious circumstances leading to the findings? WTF? I take it back I will not pray for the Antony's until they wise up and realize what their stupid daughter did to Caylee and get rid of that blood sucking leech MB!

and yet they don't seem to question the suspicious circumstances surrounding their daughter.  After all, why does anyone lie? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Mary Ann on December 14, 2008, 10:21:58 AM
Boo, sorry about your Mom. Scleroderma is such a horrible disease with no cause or cure. Call 800-722-4673 on Tuesday. I am going to a dear friend's funeral on Monday. There is a lot of literature and information that I can send to you!!!
Small worlds are so cool.................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:22:22 AM
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Phone: (407) 246-0803
Fax: (407) 246-7121








Thanks, Today!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Marijuana lawyer, WTF!!!???  ::MonkeyEek::
Maybe he can update this site to add Chloroform and Xanax to his CV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 10:22:33 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:23:03 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:23:42 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:24:29 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That may be why Cindy has the cotton mouth all the time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 14, 2008, 10:26:43 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

I've come to the conclusion that they are all padding their resume in this notorious case so they can cash in big with future clients.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 10:27:31 AM
It was harder to believe that one day they would understand when they were running around like chickens with their heads cut off.." maybe someone put something in the car while it was in tow yard" or "maybe the person whos in the trunk of my granddaughters car, HAS GOT MY GRANDDAUGHTER".. My nephew is caylees age..and his mother is troubled too..but regardless he is the most important person in my life..hes the apple of everyones eye..i was there when he was born..took care of him up until he turned a year old...and i mean hes my favorite *thats what i tell him* and if my whack job of a sister ever told me someone kidnapped him, and she was looking for him..and he was still out there..i would bust my back until i found him...and i believe i would be in just as much denial...because if someone took my sebastian i would lose it...So now that they have officially lost their baby, their favorite to a predator....in this matter casey and death in itself..they really will go through the motions of being grief stricken parents and grand parents...they have been mighty tough cookies..but they need a rest..they need time to reflect..and celebrate this little life..their lives are forever altered..no matter where they live...no matter what housese they may buy in the future..there will always be a hallway with pictures of caylee.. and pictures of casey..its like they lost both of their birds from the same stone..its always going to be what if for them. unfortunately if cindy and george had tribulations before this is certainly going to be the straw that breaks the camels back. I think now im no longer upset with them for not believing, i forgive them...and maybe the media is driving them crazy...but hey..better us then them  tormenting themselves with what could have been with caylee.....after this all dies down..that house will no longer be a home..it will be a stir of echoes and memories that are a mixture of blissfull, utter happiness, and loss. God bless the Anthony's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: SS on December 14, 2008, 10:29:44 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.


The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.




OMG!!!! THERE GOES MY BLOOD PRESSURE THIS MORNING!!!! I thought Michelle Bart was out of the equation, what the Hell is she doing still speaking for them, anyway!!!??? Tim Miller has already explained that you stupid jerks!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::




I have a very bad feeling that the Anthonys may start a spin that Caylee was later placed in the woods close to the Anthony home by Zanny, to frame Casey.  Baez, himself, has already said that even if the remains are Caylee, it doesn't mean that Casey killed her.  They will do anything to create reasonable doubt to spare Casey the needle.  They will use Tim's inability to completely search that area because of the water as a reason to support their new spin.  They might even point out that Tim has dogs that are trained to find a corpse in water.  They will use Tim's expertise and resources to justify that Caylee wasn't in the woods at the time of the search.  I fear that Tim will be used and abused by them again.  First, Tim was the bad guy who wouldn't search for a living Caylee and now, Tim cleared the area as did LE, so Caylee had to be put there recently.  It's a shame, because many times searchers miss remains even after two or three searches and TES was definitely hindered by the water when they searched that area.  We're going to hear that Caylee's remains were placed in the woods while Casey was in jail or under house arrest.  Zanny climbed that new fence with her sister and a bunch of little kids to put the remains where they were found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That may be why Cindy has the cotton mouth all the time!


And why she's so extreeeemmelllyy relaxed sometimes!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:29:50 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

I've come to the conclusion that they are all padding their resume in this notorious case so they can cash in big with future clients.
Yeah, but do they think they have a chance in He** of winning. Dr Lee's reputation already suspect because of the Phil Spector trial. I sure as hell wouldn't want him on my defense team. Can the prosecutors use screw ups in previous trials as evidence that he sucks as a "expert" and therefore he could screw evidence in this case up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:31:53 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

The question is not only who but why.  Who holds the movie rights (IMO its someone in the background, I don't think its Garrison)?  Have the experts already signed for a movie deal as consultants?  IMO these people are not working just for the notoriety.  Remember that Kathy Reichs is a well known author.  When there are questions, always follow the money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 10:32:08 AM
FYI, Dr Baden & his wife write books together
 
http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781400095612&view=qa     
Remains Silent

Written by Michael Baden and Linda Kenney
Fiction - Mystery & Detective; Fiction - Medical | Vintage | Paperback | September 2006 | $6.99| 978-1-4000-9561-2 (1-4000-9561-1)
 
AUTHOR Q & A

A Conversation with Michael Baden and Linda Kenney, authors of REMAINS SILENT:


Q: How did you two meet? We hear rumors it involved a morgue…
A: It did. People now kid us that our first “date” was in a morgue. The reality is that Linda needed an outside forensic pathologist to do a second autopsy–other lawyers recommended Michael. But, as a result of this, we thought it would be appropriate that Jake and Manny’s readers experience Manny’s perception of what a first date would be like at an autopsy.

Q: You both have busy, full time jobs. What made you decide to take on a novel?
A: We are both often consulted by authors about forensic science and legal aspects of novels they are working on. We had talked about our doing a book since we were helping so many others. Then we bought a vacation home, which, by happenstance, we rented for the summer to a woman named Leigh Feldman of the Darhansoff, Verrill, Feldman literary agency. Leigh had been the agent for Cold Mountain and Memoirs of a Geisha. She read two non-fiction books Michael had written that happened to be in the house and asked us “why don’t the two of you do a book?” It was as a result of her motherly prodding that we finally decided we could incorporate such a project into our schedule if Linda became “Of Counsel” to her law firm, and as long as we only slept three hours per night.

Q: How much of Michael and Linda are in Jake and Manny?
A: Well, Manny is 5’8”, size 8, blonde, 29 years old and a lawyer–one out of five isn’t bad! Jake is a forensic pathologist who is sexy in a scientific sort of way–there’s no difference between Michael and Jake!

Q: So you guys are still married…the collaboration must have gone well. Any challenges?
A: We will be celebrating our 5th anniversary soon, so I guess things are going alright! We both like being each other’s muse. Unless both of us wrote this book together, we could not have incorporated fashion with autopsies so successfully. It’s wonderful that we supplement each other in lots of ways.

Q: We hear you have an interesting collection of crime memorabilia. Can you tell us some of your favorite items and how you found them?
A: We both independently collected historical items, especially those related to crime, before we met. Most of our items are purchased at auction, some on e-bay, others in antique stores and others by word of mouth. We’re both concerned about fallibilities in the legal system. A lot of Linda’s documents relate to the court system’s appalling approval of slavery. These documents show that the legal system can be wrong in a big way. “Injustice!” as Manny would say. Michael collects presidential pardons. Perhaps the most cherished item in our collection are the original handwritten alienists’ notes concerning Richard Loeb, of Leopold and Loeb. Clarence Darrow was the first attorney to bring forensic psychiatry into the courtroom to challenge the death penalty in the 1920s. We also collect documents related to presidential and other assassinations given Michael’s positions in investigating the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King. One of our pet peeves is how proper medical care–available at the time–could have saved President James Garfield and President William McKinley’s lives. The only death warrant Bill Clinton signed off on as Governor of Arkansas–also signed by the person to be executed–is also a favorite part of our collection.

Q: Are there any hazards in collecting all this crime memorabilia?
A: Yes, we always kid each other that should one of us be found dead, the other would go straight to jail because we have so many true crime books, numerous treatises on poisons and suspicious deaths. Some even make their way to our night tables! The responding police officers would automatically assume the living spouse had killed the other, which would be immediately confirmed by legions of television “profilers.”

Q: What do you read? Who are some of your influences?
A: We both love Dashiell Hammett for a number of reasons. He was the creator of the original husband/wife married detective team of Nick and Nora Charles and their dog Asta. Linda loves all thriller writers but also likes to expand out of the genre and read Ken Follett, Sidney Sheldon, Jeffrey Archer, Victor Hugo, Franz Kafka and, of course, all fashion magazines. Michael loves the New York Times Book Review, the Scrabble dictionary in his continuing quest to beat Linda, and “graphic novels” such as From Hell involving the Jack the Ripper murders, of course! On a professional side, Linda has been influenced by Clarence Darrow, Michael by Dr. Seuss.

Q: Autopsy was really the first TV show to take on forensics. How do you feel about that now that shows like CSI, Crossing Jordan, and a host of others have made forensics a daily fixture on the airwaves? Why do you think people are so fascinated by forensics?
A: First, truly, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. HBO’s Autopsy premiered in 1994 and we’re still going strong. The public is fascinated by forensic shows because they combine scientific puzzle-solving with real issues of life and death. The dead talk to us and try to tell us who dunnit. The reader wants to know what the dead say, what the autopsy tells us, how we interpret blood, hair and fibers. We’ve been to the moon, we can see the furthest reaches of space, but the biggest miracle of all is the human body. It speaks to us through its DNA, through its toxicology. We try to teach the viewer/reader how to listen and interpret clues. Forensics allows everyone to become actively involved in learning how to solve a mystery. It’s the ultimate reality show.

Q: Did any of the characters or plot lines in REMAINS SILENT grow out of real life cases either of you have worked on?
A: Yes. The characters and plot lines had their genesis in true cases. We hope, in the future, to supplement REMAINS SILENT with a non-fiction account of those cases. Each of those cases presented forensic, legal, moral and ethical issues that are involved in the plot lines. We have visited crime scenes together and we have examined many a bone together. We have collaborated with others in investigating the deaths of aboriginal natives in Australia. We have visited Gravesend, England to find the remains of Princess Pocahontas for possible return to her native America. There are several photos of some of our expeditions on this website.

Q: So, can you give us any hints about Jake and Manny’s future plans?
A: They’ll continue to work together and spar with each other in usual and provocative ways. Just wait until you get to book four! Meanwhile, Manny and Jake will be traveling the United States and the world including London, Singapore, Italy, South America and Africa using forensics and law to solve unsolved crimes. They hope to meet many readers along the way. Mycroft, our real dog-son, who helps solve the mystery in REMAINS SILENT, is so pumped up he is currently seeking his own agent for a series of children’s forensic books beginning with “Mycroft Solves a Mystery.”


From the Hardcover edition.
Last book was 2006, I guess they have decided that this may be a good topic $$$
 
 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2008, 10:33:48 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:34:12 AM
It was harder to believe that one day they would understand when they were running around like chickens with their heads cut off.." maybe someone put something in the car while it was in tow yard" or "maybe the person whos in the trunk of my granddaughters car, HAS GOT MY GRANDDAUGHTER".. My nephew is caylees age..and his mother is troubled too..but regardless he is the most important person in my life..hes the apple of everyones eye..i was there when he was born..took care of him up until he turned a year old...and i mean hes my favorite *thats what i tell him* and if my whack job of a sister ever told me someone kidnapped him, and she was looking for him..and he was still out there..i would bust my back until i found him...and i believe i would be in just as much denial...because if someone took my sebastian i would lose it...So now that they have officially lost their baby, their favorite to a predator....in this matter casey and death in itself..they really will go through the motions of being grief stricken parents and grand parents...they have been mighty tough cookies..but they need a rest..they need time to reflect..and celebrate this little life..their lives are forever altered..no matter where they live...no matter what housese they may buy in the future..there will always be a hallway with pictures of caylee.. and pictures of casey..its like they lost both of their birds from the same stone..its always going to be what if for them. unfortunately if cindy and george had tribulations before this is certainly going to be the straw that breaks the camels back. I think now im no longer upset with them for not believing, i forgive them...and maybe the media is driving them crazy...but hey..better us then them  tormenting themselves with what could have been with caylee.....after this all dies down..that house will no longer be a home..it will be a stir of echoes and memories that are a mixture of blissfull, utter happiness, and loss. God bless the Anthony's.


Would you truly believe your sister that someone kidnapped the baby if you already know she is a whack job or would you work with law enforcement to find and get the baby back? My problem with the Anthonys is that they knew Casey was crazy, didn't take care of the baby, etc. But they STILL believe every word she says.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:34:30 AM
Quote
Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

Yes, God does work in mysterious ways.  Unlike the Anthony's son, Lee, I bet that the meter reader will take a lie detector test. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:35:05 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

The question is not only who but why.  Who holds the movie rights (IMO its someone in the background, I don't think its Garrison)?  Have the experts already signed for a movie deal as consultants?  IMO these people are not working just for the notoriety.  Remember that Kathy Reichs is a well known author.  When there are questions, always follow the money.
Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:35:43 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I swear, wouldn't that be a riot!!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
Hey, this guy is also a Marijuana lawyer?? Hope the A's didn't have some weed hidden in their house somewhere; LE kinda turned it upside down!! OMG!!! that would be hilarious! Sorry, i just find that so freakin' funny!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I swear, wouldn't that be a riot!!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Yep it would be a riot. Maybe it wasn't bamboo they were growing in the backyard


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 10:40:07 AM
I am still exploring the idea of Lee's involvement in all of this, as well as CinCin and Geo's. IIRC didn't the OCSO pull ALL the cell phone records and pings from ALL of the family?  This would include CinCin, Geo, and Lee.  I can not recall ever seeing them released in a doc dump though.  Maybe this is another piece of evidence they wish to use in the case, but possibly in the direction of one of the other family members.
I know that Lee dropped out of sight for quite a bit of time, but I find it really really hard that the OCSO would not have had tabs on his where abouts.  I mean due to the media we knew where Geo and CinCin where at all times, but Lee took the "under the radar" aproach.  I hope he was still on LE's radar.

I am still very very disturbed by the "walk".  The night that Casey was released for the first time from jail, the same night that many of us have believed to be the night she told the family the truth...Geo took a walk.  He said it was out of anger, but I want to know in which direction did he take this walk, and how far did he go?  At that time though I know that the entire family was not being investigated and all eyes were on Casey, but still.....wonder if it was to pay his respects.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: monkeemama on December 14, 2008, 10:40:29 AM

http://www.wesh.com/news/18262249/detail.html

Attorney: Casey Not Doing Well After Hearing About Remains

----------

uh hmm...

hey attorney, most of america and beyond don't give a rats ass how casey is doing.  last i heard, caylee not doing well either...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 






yes, exactly. Who gives a rats how casey is feeling.  Shes only feeling bad cos her sorry arzz has been busted.  Gawd it would even be worth doing a misdemeanor if you lived in Orlando, just so you could get in there and slap her up the head  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: My husband said something along the same lines the other day when we were watching a clip of her smiling & laughing and caring only about #1 in some of those jail tapes. He was saying how worth it would be to be charged with assault to be able to chuck a heavy can or any other hard & heavy object directly at her head/face while she was sitting there inappropriately laughing and exposing those huge nasty TEEF!

Haha what a lovely visual!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:43:48 AM
I am still exploring the idea of Lee's involvement in all of this, as well as CinCin and Geo's. IIRC didn't the OCSO pull ALL the cell phone records and pings from ALL of the family?  This would include CinCin, Geo, and Lee.  I can not recall ever seeing them released in a doc dump though.  Maybe this is another piece of evidence they wish to use in the case, but possibly in the direction of one of the other family members.
I know that Lee dropped out of sight for quite a bit of time, but I find it really really hard that the OCSO would not have had tabs on his where abouts.  I mean due to the media we knew where Geo and CinCin where at all times, but Lee took the "under the radar" aproach.  I hope he was still on LE's radar.

I am still very very disturbed by the "walk".  The night that Casey was released for the first time from jail, the same night that many of us have believed to be the night she told the family the truth...Geo took a walk.  He said it was out of anger, but I want to know in which direction did he take this walk, and how far did he go?  At that time though I know that the entire family was not being investigated and all eyes were on Casey, but still.....wonder if it was to pay his respects.
How long had Casey been at the house before George took the walk? Long enough to tell where Caylee was and then he took the walk. Or did he take the walk and let her tell Cindy and Lee because George just didn't want to know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 10:44:19 AM

Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.
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You and me both. These reknowned, educated people sell their whole careers for 100k per trial and and increase in consultant fees and speaking engagement fees.. It's really disgusting. Dr Baden is a paid Fox News consultant, this should be some sort of conflict of interest.
At least Kobi, who is a PhD btw, not an MD, has his affiliation as a defense expert announced, I think Dr B plays both sides when the wife is involved.. yuck


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

The question is not only who but why.  Who holds the movie rights (IMO its someone in the background, I don't think its Garrison)?  Have the experts already signed for a movie deal as consultants?  IMO these people are not working just for the notoriety.  Remember that Kathy Reichs is a well known author.  When there are questions, always follow the money.
Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.

You have to remember that these people have not kept up with the case like the people on this and other forums.  They have probably only heard Baez's side of what is going on.  They are hired by him to do a job and they will do it to the best of their abilities. 

This holds true for everything, even though the people that are closely following the case know that the full evidence when released should point to Casey's guilt, people that are not following closely and only looking at what has been released will not see enough to be 100% sure of guilt. 

Please remember that the way people physically look does not make them guilty of anything nor does it effect the way someone can defend or prosecute someone else. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 10:46:22 AM
I am still exploring the idea of Lee's involvement in all of this, as well as CinCin and Geo's. IIRC didn't the OCSO pull ALL the cell phone records and pings from ALL of the family?  This would include CinCin, Geo, and Lee.  I can not recall ever seeing them released in a doc dump though.  Maybe this is another piece of evidence they wish to use in the case, but possibly in the direction of one of the other family members.
I know that Lee dropped out of sight for quite a bit of time, but I find it really really hard that the OCSO would not have had tabs on his where abouts.  I mean due to the media we knew where Geo and CinCin where at all times, but Lee took the "under the radar" aproach.  I hope he was still on LE's radar.

I am still very very disturbed by the "walk".  The night that Casey was released for the first time from jail, the same night that many of us have believed to be the night she told the family the truth...Geo took a walk.  He said it was out of anger, but I want to know in which direction did he take this walk, and how far did he go?  At that time though I know that the entire family was not being investigated and all eyes were on Casey, but still.....wonder if it was to pay his respects.
How long had Casey been at the house before George took the walk? Long enough to tell where Caylee was and then he took the walk. Or did he take the walk and let her tell Cindy and Lee because George just didn't want to know?
He took the walk later in the evening.  It came out though from LP that Geo aparently did so according to Lee to let Casey talk with Mom and Bro.  This could very well be just Lee covering for the actions of his fathers need to pay his respects to Casey.  WHY the need for Lee to open up and tell LP any of this if not to cover for something bigger??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:49:31 AM

Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.
You and me both. These reknowned, educated people sell their whole careers for 100k per trial and and increase in consultant fees and speaking engagement fees.. It's really disgusting. Dr Baden is a paid Fox News consultant, this should be some sort of conflict of interest.
At least Kobi, who is a PhD btw, not an MD, has his affiliation as a defense expert announced, I think Dr B plays both sides when the wife is involved.. yuck
[/quote] I would think husband and wife would be conflict of interest as well. Dr Baden should shut his yap about this case if his wife is KCs attorney. But I guess Money talks, BS walks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: JodyO on December 14, 2008, 10:49:34 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

My hubby says somebody is going to write some books, advise some movie productions, etc. and cash in BIG TIME after this is concluded. If they don't charge Cindy or George, you know they will get a ghost writer if they haven't got one already working on a book and scripts. All these defense lawyers and paid gunslingers for the defense will make $ that way too.

I've come to the conclusion that they are all padding their resume in this notorious case so they can cash in big with future clients.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
Just a quick note, I was told by a very reliable source that ALL female inmates prior to being booked meet with a jail nurse to go over any health issues.  At this time a urine sample is 99.9% of the time collected from each of the inmates for testing of drugs and pregnancy.  This is done to help the guards know if the inmate has a drug history and could be coming down from a high, going into withdrawls, or is pregnant and needs special treatment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:51:34 AM
Police search woods for Caylee clues a 4th day  (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8069469&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)\

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- As detectives enter their fourth day of searching a wooded area for clues in the case of a missing toddler, they're tight-lipped on whether any more evidence has been found.

On Thursday, a utility worker found a child's skull less than a half-mile from the Orlando home of Caylee Anthony, who was two when she went missing in June.

Her mother, Casey Anthony, waited a month to report her daughter missing and has been charged with murder.

Orange County Sheriff's deputies and the FBI are still combing the area where the skull was found. Orange Sheriff's spokesman Carlos Padilla wouldn't say what else has been recovered.

On Saturday, Anthony's lawyer and his forensic investigators conducted their own investigation at the Anthony family home.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 10:52:33 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.


The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.




OMG!!!! THERE GOES MY BLOOD PRESSURE THIS MORNING!!!! I thought Michelle Bart was out of the equation, what the Hell is she doing still speaking for them, anyway!!!??? Tim Miller has already explained that you stupid jerks!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::




I have a very bad feeling that the Anthonys may start a spin that Caylee was later placed in the woods close to the Anthony home by Zanny, to frame Casey.  Baez, himself, has already said that even if the remains are Caylee, it doesn't mean that Casey killed her.  They will do anything to create reasonable doubt to spare Casey the needle.  They will use Tim's inability to completely search that area because of the water as a reason to support their new spin.  They might even point out that Tim has dogs that are trained to find a corpse in water.  They will use Tim's expertise and resources to justify that Caylee wasn't in the woods at the time of the search.  I fear that Tim will be used and abused by them again.  First, Tim was the bad guy who wouldn't search for a living Caylee and now, Tim cleared the area as did LE, so Caylee had to be put there recently.  It's a shame, because many times searchers miss remains even after two or three searches and TES was definitely hindered by the water when they searched that area.  We're going to hear that Caylee's remains were placed in the woods while Casey was in jail or under house arrest.  Zanny climbed that new fence with her sister and a bunch of little kids to put the remains where they were found.


ooook...So of course they are going to begin their chit chattering about zani, and planting evidence and they will have their opening statements...their witness list..and cross examination... The prosecutor has what 50 credible witnesses to caseys innability to show compassion for her daughters dissapearance...there is more evidence against her now, to were it seem improbable that there will be an acquittal or hung jury..all that boot.................Casey has incriminated herself..she is not credible..and i will bet my bottom dollar she is only going to testify whn they rbing the death penalty round on her..because you better believe the prosecution is going for that again...they have everything they need..casey has no alibi..she was everywhere the baby was...the day she supposably dropped caylee off at sawgrass or blanchard park....she was sitting a block away from home waiting for her dad to go to work so she could go back home....the judge is going to break her down...they hate ignorant people..and she sure is ignorant....after the jury learns of caylee..her preciousness..and the fact that her mom was planning hot body contests...looking for female vocalists...going on shopping sprees, sleeping with multiple guys.. all while the mom claims a nanny that never existed kidnapped her...This prosecution got with it..they have crossed their t's and dotted their i's with all their subpoenas, search warrants, and conclusive findings with the body farm and the air samples in the trunk...if they were going to prove her guilty with just a trunk air sample and one single hair off the babies head...i can only imagine what they have found that has further put casey in the hole. even if she wore gloves when taping caylee SHE MUST HAVE USED HER HORSE TEETH to cut the tape..she used bags from her moms house...Now.....Tim Miller is very credible, he has secretaries writing what he does in his searches day in day out..yes he did search with cadaver dogs, he got mighty close..but he never said..."i dont know why i didnt see the bag" he knows why..everything was muddy, unstable ...and he didnt want to trample the remains..which was a great call....better late than never...and you better believe that the prosecutors have filled a black trash bag with approximately 30 pounds give or take some for caylees  last known weight...full of bean bags(or something with mass and texture to it)..and have placed the bag in the location..as close in proximity to the drop site as they can..to measure, and watch like a science project how long it will take that bag to create the same time of indentation in the sediment as did caylees bag. and they will do this several times..to see how long it takes...SO TAKE THAT JOSE BAEZ!!!! it will prove definitely that the body has not just been stashed their recently..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:53:39 AM
Quote
As detectives enter their fourth day of searching a wooded area for clues in the case of a missing toddler, they're tight-lipped on whether any more evidence has been found.

I brought this up last night, I think everyone involved deserves a pat on the back for keeping their mouths shut. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:54:22 AM
Good Morning Monkey Friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I betcha very soon , now that Donatella Kenney-Baden is on the defense team, Dr Baden will pull a Phil Spector trial-like stance and back his wife's team... $$$$ Who the hell IS for Caylee?? Us & the prosecution, certainly NOT her family.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm for Caylee, but my question is WHO THE HE** IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE ATTORNEYS AND FORENSIC "EXPERTS"?

The question is not only who but why.  Who holds the movie rights (IMO its someone in the background, I don't think its Garrison)?  Have the experts already signed for a movie deal as consultants?  IMO these people are not working just for the notoriety.  Remember that Kathy Reichs is a well known author.  When there are questions, always follow the money.
Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.

You have to remember that these people have not kept up with the case like the people on this and other forums.  They have probably only heard Baez's side of what is going on.  They are hired by him to do a job and they will do it to the best of their abilities. 

This holds true for everything, even though the people that are closely following the case know that the full evidence when released should point to Casey's guilt, people that are not following closely and only looking at what has been released will not see enough to be 100% sure of guilt. 

Please remember that the way people physically look does not make them guilty of anything nor does it effect the way someone can defend or prosecute someone else. 
If they are experts, then they should look at both sides of the story. Maybe to me, money isn't the most important thing in my life. I thought a lot of people weren't following the case, but just yesterday I was at Quiznos and there was a table of about 6 or 7 people and all they could talk about was KC and how guilty she was. I am in Texas and it hasn't made local news until the body was found. These people are either on SM or they have looked into the case more than what is on local media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2008, 10:55:35 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 10:56:28 AM

Yep, but I would rather keep my reputation than have all the money in the world.
You and me both. These reknowned, educated people sell their whole careers for 100k per trial and and increase in consultant fees and speaking engagement fees.. It's really disgusting. Dr Baden is a paid Fox News consultant, this should be some sort of conflict of interest.
At least Kobi, who is a PhD btw, not an MD, has his affiliation as a defense expert announced, I think Dr B plays both sides when the wife is involved.. yuck
I would think husband and wife would be conflict of interest as well. Dr Baden should shut his yap about this case if his wife is KCs attorney. But I guess Money talks, BS walks
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unfortunately we live in U.S.A. where sometimes your better off being rich and guilty, then poor and innocent!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:56:32 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/14/is_it_caylee_anthonys_suspicious.html

Is It Caylee? Anthonys Suspicious
Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:14:19 AM

ORLANDO -- Orange County sheriff's officials said Saturday the evidence is mounting that the skeletal remains of a small child found Thursday may belong to Caylee Anthony.

Investigators are out Sunday for the fourth day of searching a wooded area near the Anthony home where the remains were first found, hoping to discover more clues to determine if they are the missing 3-year-old.

Get Up-To-The-Minute Updates On The Remans Discovery

Michelle Bart, spokeswoman for Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the family is suspicious of the circumstances leading to the findings.

"It's been searched dry, it's been searched wet, it's been searched in between. It's been searched over by Tim Miller [of Texas EquuSearch] twice, who we hold in high regards with his professional organization," Bart told News 13.


The FBI is looking at DNA from the remains, but the Orange County medical examiner said it could be a week before conclusive results are released.

Sheriff Kevin Beary told the defense team for Casey Anthony, the missing girl's mother who has been charged with her murder, the size of the bones and hair color of the remains match Caylee. See Previous Story.


Minute-To-Minute Update
Sunday, Dec. 14
7:00 a.m.
Investigators return to the crime scene for Day 4 of searching for more clues in the area.




OMG!!!! THERE GOES MY BLOOD PRESSURE THIS MORNING!!!! I thought Michelle Bart was out of the equation, what the Hell is she doing still speaking for them, anyway!!!??? Tim Miller has already explained that you stupid jerks!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::




I have a very bad feeling that the Anthonys may start a spin that Caylee was later placed in the woods close to the Anthony home by Zanny, to frame Casey.  Baez, himself, has already said that even if the remains are Caylee, it doesn't mean that Casey killed her.  They will do anything to create reasonable doubt to spare Casey the needle.  They will use Tim's inability to completely search that area because of the water as a reason to support their new spin.  They might even point out that Tim has dogs that are trained to find a corpse in water.  They will use Tim's expertise and resources to justify that Caylee wasn't in the woods at the time of the search.  I fear that Tim will be used and abused by them again.  First, Tim was the bad guy who wouldn't search for a living Caylee and now, Tim cleared the area as did LE, so Caylee had to be put there recently.  It's a shame, because many times searchers miss remains even after two or three searches and TES was definitely hindered by the water when they searched that area.  We're going to hear that Caylee's remains were placed in the woods while Casey was in jail or under house arrest.  Zanny climbed that new fence with her sister and a bunch of little kids to put the remains where they were found.


ooook...So of course they are going to begin their chit chattering about zani, and planting evidence and they will have their opening statements...their witness list..and cross examination... The prosecutor has what 50 credible witnesses to caseys innability to show compassion for her daughters dissapearance...there is more evidence against her now, to were it seem improbable that there will be an acquittal or hung jury..all that boot.................Casey has incriminated herself..she is not credible..and i will bet my bottom dollar she is only going to testify whn they rbing the death penalty round on her..because you better believe the prosecution is going for that again...they have everything they need..casey has no alibi..she was everywhere the baby was...the day she supposably dropped caylee off at sawgrass or blanchard park....she was sitting a block away from home waiting for her dad to go to work so she could go back home....the judge is going to break her down...they hate ignorant people..and she sure is ignorant....after the jury learns of caylee..her preciousness..and the fact that her mom was planning hot body contests...looking for female vocalists...going on shopping sprees, sleeping with multiple guys.. all while the mom claims a nanny that never existed kidnapped her...This prosecution got with it..they have crossed their t's and dotted their i's with all their subpoenas, search warrants, and conclusive findings with the body farm and the air samples in the trunk...if they were going to prove her guilty with just a trunk air sample and one single hair off the babies head...i can only imagine what they have found that has further put casey in the hole. even if she wore gloves when taping caylee SHE MUST HAVE USED HER HORSE TEETH to cut the tape..she used bags from her moms house...Now.....Tim Miller is very credible, he has secretaries writing what he does in his searches day in day out..yes he did search with cadaver dogs, he got mighty close..but he never said..."i dont know why i didnt see the bag" he knows why..everything was muddy, unstable ...and he didnt want to trample the remains..which was a great call....better late than never...and you better believe that the prosecutors have filled a black trash bag with approximately 30 pounds give or take some for caylees  last known weight...full of bean bags(or something with mass and texture to it)..and have placed the bag in the location..as close in proximity to the drop site as they can..to measure, and watch like a science project how long it will take that bag to create the same time of indentation in the sediment as did caylees bag. and they will do this several times..to see how long it takes...SO TAKE THAT JOSE BAEZ!!!! it will prove definitely that the body has not just been stashed their recently..


i probably screwed this up but, LMAO!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:57:13 AM
I am still exploring the idea of Lee's involvement in all of this, as well as CinCin and Geo's. IIRC didn't the OCSO pull ALL the cell phone records and pings from ALL of the family?  This would include CinCin, Geo, and Lee.  I can not recall ever seeing them released in a doc dump though.  Maybe this is another piece of evidence they wish to use in the case, but possibly in the direction of one of the other family members.
I know that Lee dropped out of sight for quite a bit of time, but I find it really really hard that the OCSO would not have had tabs on his where abouts.  I mean due to the media we knew where Geo and CinCin where at all times, but Lee took the "under the radar" aproach.  I hope he was still on LE's radar.

I am still very very disturbed by the "walk".  The night that Casey was released for the first time from jail, the same night that many of us have believed to be the night she told the family the truth...Geo took a walk.  He said it was out of anger, but I want to know in which direction did he take this walk, and how far did he go?  At that time though I know that the entire family was not being investigated and all eyes were on Casey, but still.....wonder if it was to pay his respects.
How long had Casey been at the house before George took the walk? Long enough to tell where Caylee was and then he took the walk. Or did he take the walk and let her tell Cindy and Lee because George just didn't want to know?
He took the walk later in the evening.  It came out though from LP that Geo aparently did so according to Lee to let Casey talk with Mom and Bro.  This could very well be just Lee covering for the actions of his fathers need to pay his respects to Casey.  WHY the need for Lee to open up and tell LP any of this if not to cover for something bigger??
Thanks Dolce, of all the people in that family I think George is the only one not covering for the skank. I will probably change my mind about him again this afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2008, 10:57:28 AM
Police search woods for Caylee clues a 4th day  (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8069469&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)\

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- As detectives enter their fourth day of searching a wooded area for clues in the case of a missing toddler, they're tight-lipped on whether any more evidence has been found.

On Thursday, a utility worker found a child's skull less than a half-mile from the Orlando home of Caylee Anthony, who was two when she went missing in June.

Her mother, Casey Anthony, waited a month to report her daughter missing and has been charged with murder.

Orange County Sheriff's deputies and the FBI are still combing the area where the skull was found. Orange Sheriff's spokesman Carlos Padilla wouldn't say what else has been recovered.

On Saturday, Anthony's lawyer and his forensic investigators conducted their own investigation at the Anthony family home.




Thanks for posting, I am thrilled that they are going through this area with a fine toothed comb. And also no leaks from LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: joesamas mama on December 14, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
Okay Monkeys, I'm outta here. Gotta get ready for church, so I can pray and ask God to forgive me of my hatred of the Ants.

Peace Out

JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.

No he will have Kid Finders do it for him.  Remember Dennis Milstead and the Blanchard Park memorial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.


Geraldo said, the family was obviously grieving; eh, I think lee's just a jackass!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 10:58:50 AM
The Anthony's started their spin from the very beginning. 
First it was pizza, squirrels, and crickets that took over Casey's car.  Then it was another body in the trunk, not Caylee's that was obviously planted by someone after the vehicle had been towed.  Then we have the newest release of the "code" talkers in the jail visits.  Cindy baits Casey throughout the conversation with questions so that Casey will answer the way they scripted this whole ordeal out.  "Does she have a key?" and "Are we being threatened".  They knew they were being recorded, this family has played the system to their advantage every damn step of the way.
Casey NEVER should have been alloud to return to her home with Geo and CinCin after her first release, that is when this scamming all began.  The notebook that CinCin carried around is a book of lies IMO.  Its her way to keep track of all the bullshit she is saying to spin the web of lies for Casey's defense. 
IF this family truely believed that their grandchild was out among the living then by God they would have done what ANY human being with a brain cell among them would do, and beat the damn ground day after day in search of Caylee.  They would have gone to Sawgrass Apts and handed out fliers, gone to BP and posted fliers, they would have gone door to door asking for help.  NO, they did NONE of this, they had no need, they knew right where she was, and as long as no one was looking in that area, they were safe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 11:01:47 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.
Geraldo said, the family was obviously grieving; eh, I think lee's just a jackass!
I think that Geraldo needs to shut up already.  That man is a disgrace to journalism and a menace to society....just on cable!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2008, 11:02:11 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.

No he will have Kid Finders do it for him.  Remember Dennis Milstead and the Blanchard Park memorial?
Or they will just pay someone to go do it also, but since Milstead needs the money, on second thought it probably will be Milstead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: ShariVari on December 14, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
Casey has a new attorney? Who is it? Is it that woman that looks like a man in a wig? What's her name, Something-Baden? TIA


LMAO, ::MonkeyHaHa:: She looks like Donatella Versace to me!
Yeah that's who she looks like, but I still think she looks like a 60 year old tore up drag queen.

I thought the defense looked like unprofessional crybabies when (was it Geraldo?) interviewed them.  All Donatella did was complain and whine.  Was she waiting to go into the woods in her suit, make-up, and heels?  All of that was so totally for show!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.
Geraldo said, the family was obviously grieving; eh, I think lee's just a jackass!
I think that Geraldo needs to shut up already.  That man is a disgrace to journalism and a menace to society....just on cable!
I can't watch him anymore, he makes me ill, I follow the board to get any info from Geraldo. But I did find it funny when he slipped and called Casey a slut.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: flamom on December 14, 2008, 11:05:11 AM
Geraldo + JB = new besties
Geraldo + JB = first interview with Crazy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 11:07:03 AM
Video -- from December 13th (http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3296516&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/archive/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Dolce on December 14, 2008, 11:07:16 AM
Geraldo + JB = new besties
Geraldo + JB = first interview with Crazy

Oh I know, Geraldo plays the "Brother from another mother" card with him.  Its pathetic.  His whole excuse for Baez about how his wife is gorgeous why would he cheat with Casey was like...um HELLO POT this is KETTLE!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Monken on December 14, 2008, 11:09:04 AM
Good Morning, thank-you for posting the video of Lee destroying the memorial. When people start putting stuffed animals and flowers, where the remains of Caylee were found, is that jackass going to run there and destroy that memorial also? I will scream if I hear the word FINDINGS again. If it is Caylee or some other poor little one, it is despicable to me to use the word findings and not remains.
Geraldo said, the family was obviously grieving; eh, I think lee's just a jackass!
I think that Geraldo needs to shut up already.  That man is a disgrace to journalism and a menace to society....just on cable!
I can't watch him anymore, he makes me ill, I follow the board to get any info from Geraldo. But I did find it funny when he slipped and called Casey a slut.

So did I, but I don't think he slipped, he hates Casey like he does Joran!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #
Post by: Searching on December 14, 2008, 11:10:14 AM
Local News report no water behind school at the time!  So how did LE and cadiver dogs miss it?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'm wondering the same thing.  I really believe the bag was moved there after the searches took place.  JMO

I found a video today of a teen who videotaped the search in the woods after the utility worker called 911, he stated it had been waist deep in water until about 2 weeks ago........I'll try to find the link.

I am glad "the bag" was in water - perserved remains, perhaps prevented animals from getting to it!

But my 2 concerns are - why didn't the dogs pick up the scent still?  And why are their conflicting reports.  I am looking at this because you know the defense it going to get dirty!!

Well what is the furthest distance a dog can pick up a scent??  Maybe they weren't close enough to the body?  Maybe , maybe maybe....ask Tim!!! 

They used cadaver dogs, which are different from tracking dogs.  Not sure how much of an area the cadaver dog handlers gave them to search, if they got to search outside the perimeter of the yard, for example.  Am thinking they basically took them into the backyard area and let them sniff around, as well as around the car, and that was likely it. 

I wondered back then if they would/could get actual tracking dogs, give them Caylee's scent (say, in the garage/driveway) and see if they could track her from there.  If they'd done that, with those woods so close?  Omigosh, betcha those dogs would have taken off and dragged their handlers straight there. 

Remember Laci Peterson, tracking dogs were used.  The dog took off like a shot, following her scent down the middle of the street, (which suggested to the handlers that she left by vehicle, not on foot), followed it clear to the highway that leads to the Bay.  Either that dog or another tracking dog followed Laci's scent thru the Marina and off the end of a pier. 

Tracking dogs can follow a scent forever, even picking it up again if they lose it.  Cadaver dogs typically do not follow a scent like tracking dogs do.  Cadaver dogs alert where there is or has been a dead person. 


Great post~I think you are on to something as cadaver dogs are trained to smell human decomp, while bloodhounds (tracker dogs) track the scent of the victim and If I remember properly the Anthony's refused to provide Tim (and maybe LE) with anything that had Caylee's scent on it. Cruel B@stards ::MonkeyNoNo::

Of course they refused!!! they had to give enough time to keep  from proving princess KC guilty.. You know, let her poor body rot away so nothing is left to tell the story?? sorry so graphic but I do believe that has been the goal the entire time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: Today on December 14, 2008, 11:11:11 AM
Can some fix the title on my video?  Just remove Geraldo.  I was reading something else and I had a mind burp.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #74
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on December 14, 2008, 11:13:28 AM
You know how i know hes not in on it? He would hav never cooperated with the police and f.b.i.....george can we take your car? laptop? homecomp