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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:25:50 AM
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JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

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photoshop courtesy of 'Mia's myspace 427249817  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:40:43 AM
I know it is a new year for my second favorite cuddle bug. I have a poem for you.

Dearest Sheriff Beary, you have a few days until you leave us. Please for the love of God, man and all Scared Monkeys. PLEASE arrest any members of the Anthony family that are not already incarcerated. I bought a lovely large pizza to ring in the new year. You look like you really enjoy food and would like a pizza of your own. If you feel incline to arrest them, I will be off work all day tomorrow. I may be at the Cotton Bowl game on Friday, but if you give me a heads up, I will for go the A** whuppin of Ole Miss by Texas Tech and sit by my computer in hopes of watching your lovely rotundness pulling Cindy out of her house and into the Crown Vic of your choosing. Sincerely Joesamas Mama Hugs and Kisses to you my favorite High Sheriff (except for Andy Taylor of Mayberry fame)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 12:43:14 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:43:57 AM
I know it is a new year for my second favorite cuddle bug. I have a poem for you.

Dearest Sheriff Beary, you have a few days until you leave us. Please for the love of God, man and all Scared Monkeys. PLEASE arrest any members of the Anthony family that are not already incarcerated. I bought a lovely large pizza to ring in the new year. You look like you really enjoy food and would like a pizza of your own. If you feel incline to arrest them, I will be off work all day tomorrow. I may be at the Cotton Bowl game on Friday, but if you give me a heads up, I will for go the A** whuppin of Ole Miss by Texas Tech and sit by my computer in hopes of watching your lovely rotundness pulling Cindy out of her house and into the Crown Vic of your choosing. Sincerely Joesamas Mama Hugs and Kisses to you my favorite High Sheriff (except for Andy Taylor of Mayberry fame)
Thanks Klaas, you are the best. I know he doesn't read my posts but if he does I will send him the biggest pizza he could ever want. HAPPY NEW YEAR!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:44:05 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:44:10 AM
Yay.............Brand New cage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and brand New year...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 12:44:15 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:45:03 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 12:45:19 AM
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That's awesome..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:46:17 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 12:47:28 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2009, 12:47:54 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............
Now what red blooded American man could turn that offer down.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: littletxlady on January 01, 2009, 12:48:06 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR MONKEYS
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 12:48:25 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:49:07 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...
2 hours..............geez.....thats a long time............oh well.......I can already tell you that 2009 feels just like 2008 for right now so you aint missin nothing!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 12:49:24 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::
Good nite SS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 12:50:26 AM
well .. made it to the new cage, but now i have to go out in the COLD and SNOW and walk THOR the vicious yorkie...
if i dont make it back..
i always loved yall best...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:50:43 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............
Now what red blooded American man could turn that offer down.......
thats what I say...he should be on his way over to the Ants house right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:50:57 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::
Good Night. I'm looking foward to my coffee! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 12:51:20 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...

Over here in Seattle Heykim!Lookin forward to an 09' of wonderful things for those without voices!Scared Monkey's will continue to speak for those that are not spoken for!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 12:51:43 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...
2 hours..............geez.....thats a long time............oh well.......I can already tell you that 2009 feels just like 2008 for right now so you aint missin nothing!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

HA! i hadda hunch..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:53:23 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::
Good Night. I'm looking foward to my coffee! ::MonkeyDance::
Awww    Joe looks so sweet all made up for New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:53:37 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............
Now what red blooded American man could turn that offer down.......
thats what I say...he should be on his way over to the Ants house right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd stay up all night and drive to Orlando just to witness that-even in my jammies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:54:17 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 12:54:38 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...

Over here in Seattle Heykim!Lookin forward to an 09' of wonderful things for those without voices!Scared Monkey's will continue to speak for those that are not spoken for!

hey you! i was just in seattle the other day...
side roads SUCK.. if i may say so myself!
we drove down to az.... through cali.... through oregon... and through seattle..
over snaqualmie... through spokane... and i never was WARM ONE DAY out of TWELVE DAYS on the road.. *L*

home now... but its knee deep in snow.. with more on the way! keep your rain over in seattle! it turns to snow when it reaches ME! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:55:06 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............
Now what red blooded American man could turn that offer down.......
thats what I say...he should be on his way over to the Ants house right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd stay up all night and drive to Orlando just to witness that-even in my jammies
Pick me up on the way, I wouldnt wanna miss that, and if we are lucky maybe one of them will try to run for it!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:55:44 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::
Good Night. I'm looking foward to my coffee! ::MonkeyDance::
Awww    Joe looks so sweet all made up for New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks HH, your son's baby looks sweeter! Joe is pure evilness in pretty clothes. Kinda like KC. Except Joe has a heart of gold.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 12:56:13 AM
did everybody leave????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:56:35 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys
Yea   it just stopped with the noise hear!!!!!!!!!!!!Happy New Years to you and Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:56:43 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:57:08 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::

Nite SeaSearcher - Happy New Year!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:58:06 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::
That's kind of you. Happy New Year to you Island. I still will take the Aggie band over Tech's any day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 12:58:18 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::
ok, it's islandmonkey right? you moved from c-ville to fla.? i am so jealous!
wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:58:32 AM
OH! You guys think your sooooo funny!! I can't turn my back for a few minutes to watch a couple of Cowsill videos and yall sneak out of the room on me!! Well I found ya!! Howd you like them apples!!! You can't ditch me yet!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Giggling bunch of Monkey butts!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:58:46 AM
Is everybody gonna watch the special on NG tomorrow night?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:58:54 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll throw in a big keg or whatever he drinks!! ::cartwheel::
Hell, ill throw in a wild woman and pay for the room too...............
Now what red blooded American man could turn that offer down.......
thats what I say...he should be on his way over to the Ants house right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd stay up all night and drive to Orlando just to witness that-even in my jammies
Pick me up on the way, I wouldnt wanna miss that, and if we are lucky maybe one of them will try to run for it!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLMAO~ I'd pay a yrs salary to watch that for sure............on my way.


WENDI~my son's best friend and his "girlfriend" both live in Aintree, the one thing I really miss is the new mall>(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:58:57 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys
Yea   it just stopped with the noise hear!!!!!!!!!!!!Happy New Years to you and Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy NY to you too HH, email me tomorrow if you still have questions about your son's tests.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 12:59:47 AM
Happy New Year youall. ......no one to kiss, blowing kisses to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 01:00:43 AM
OH! You guys think your sooooo funny!! I can't turn my back for a few minutes to watch a couple of Cowsill videos and yall sneak out of the room on me!! Well I found ya!! Howd you like them apples!!! You can't ditch me yet!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Giggling bunch of Monkey butts!!!
See   I knew you would find us....................I told them to keep it down but just like you I couldnt control them and so now you found us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh well  we Love ya anyway!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:00:43 AM
OH! You guys think your sooooo funny!! I can't turn my back for a few minutes to watch a couple of Cowsill videos and yall sneak out of the room on me!! Well I found ya!! Howd you like them apples!!! You can't ditch me yet!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Giggling bunch of Monkey butts!!!
Oh Boo. I thought you went to bed. You are still watching those weird people. Don't call people monkey butts, that's what I call Joe in the morning.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: (when he has a bit of gaseous problem)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 01:00:48 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...

Over here in Seattle Heykim!Lookin forward to an 09' of wonderful things for those without voices!Scared Monkey's will continue to speak for those that are not spoken for!

hey you! i was just in seattle the other day...
side roads SUCK.. if i may say so myself!
we drove down to az.... through cali.... through oregon... and through seattle..
over snaqualmie... through spokane... and i never was WARM ONE DAY out of TWELVE DAYS on the road.. *L*

home now... but its knee deep in snow.. with more on the way! keep your rain over in seattle! it turns to snow when it reaches ME! :)

Tell me about it.Snow is gone..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys
Yea   it just stopped with the noise hear!!!!!!!!!!!!Happy New Years to you and Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy NY to you too HH, email me tomorrow if you still have questions about your son's tests.
I will do that!   Have a wonderful night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 01:02:10 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:02:11 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::
ok, it's islandmonkey right? you moved from c-ville to fla.? i am so jealous!
wendi

I did, I ha been wanting to move for many, many reasons and got a job offer~so, I just went for it and I lllllluv it. At first I assumed everybody was on drugs here because they were so damn nice, but it tuns out beach life just makes them happy ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 01:04:32 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests




Why do i gotta be last up here in Seattle?? ::MonkeyLaugh:: At least i got some others hangin with me at the end of 08'... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:05:17 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests




To you also ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 01:05:27 AM
Happy New Year youall. ......no one to kiss, blowing kisses to you.

I got mine  ::MonkeyDance:: Just don't let Bearly know  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 01:05:30 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests



Happy New Year..............I hope its the best year of your life!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:07:43 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
Good Night and Happy New Year Monkeys !!

Thanks for tonight Boo...better than a night at the improv !  ::MonkeyDance::

See you tomorrow...and I will stay on topic  ::MonkeyCool::

Is morning coffee still on topic ?  ::MonkeyWink::

Nite SeaSearcher - Happy New Year!

Had friend on facebook to say goodnight to...and a kiss to catch  ::MonkeyRoll::

Happy New Year to you Klaas...and thank you for all that you do here  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:09:19 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Sounds like that most nights in Detroit!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: darla on January 01, 2009, 01:10:41 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests




To you also ::MonkeyTongue::

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you great Monkeys. Trying to catch up reading after getting 7 grandkids down for the night. Geesh!!! I am tired. Praying we get Justice for Caylee in this New Year!. God Bless you all!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 01, 2009, 01:10:48 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests




Happy New Year N2WISHN.... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:10:53 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Sounds like that most nights in Detroit!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Booooo You are still up. I live in I guess what would be the equivalent of Dearborn. Does that make sense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 01:10:56 AM
Happy New Year youall. ......no one to kiss, blowing kisses to you.

I got mine  ::MonkeyDance:: Just don't let Bearly know  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:11:27 AM
OK, it's 1:09 am here in Michigan, so I am going to bed! Thank you for a very Happy New year Monkeys!!

More on topic in the morning!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

How about that duct tape, hmmmm? Go ahead, discuss amongst yourselves!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:12:02 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Sounds like that most nights in Detroit!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Booooo You are still up. I live in I guess what would be the equivalent of Dearborn. Does that make sense?

Yes it does!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 01:12:05 AM
Still stuck in 08'....Gotta wait my turn.. ::MonkeyDance::

me too! got two hours and 13 minutes here to go in idaho panhandle...

Over here in Seattle Heykim!Lookin forward to an 09' of wonderful things for those without voices!Scared Monkey's will continue to speak for those that are not spoken for!

hey you! i was just in seattle the other day...
side roads SUCK.. if i may say so myself!
we drove down to az.... through cali.... through oregon... and through seattle..
over snaqualmie... through spokane... and i never was WARM ONE DAY out of TWELVE DAYS on the road.. *L*

home now... but its knee deep in snow.. with more on the way! keep your rain over in seattle! it turns to snow when it reaches ME! :)

Tell me about it.Snow is gone..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

not HERE its not... we still have snow up to the window sills here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:12:14 AM
OK, it's 1:09 am here in Michigan, so I am going to bed! Thank you for a very Happy New year Monkeys!!

More on topic in the morning!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

How about that duct tape, hmmmm? Go ahead, discuss amongst yourselves!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have lime green duct tape. Won't hold Spinone spit though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 01, 2009, 01:12:37 AM
OK, it's 1:09 am here in Michigan, so I am going to bed! Thank you for a very Happy New year Monkeys!!

More on topic in the morning!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

How about that duct tape, hmmmm? Go ahead, discuss amongst yourselves!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite Boo...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:12:44 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Sounds like that most nights in Detroit!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's what I heard, my ex aka Satan lived there for about 2 yrs, boy if you only knew the bad prayers I wished to myself ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:12:56 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::
ok, it's islandmonkey right? you moved from c-ville to fla.? i am so jealous!
wendi

I did, I ha been wanting to move for many, many reasons and got a job offer~so, I just went for it and I lllllluv it. At first I assumed everybody was on drugs here because they were so damn nice, but it tuns out beach life just makes them happy ::MonkeyTongue::
i can't believe it. i guess you come & visit then or if it were me i would visit there. it is so nice having the mall, hubby loves bonefish, i like carrabas & blue burrito. when was the last time you were here to visit or have you not been back?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:13:02 AM
Happy New Year Monkeys. štastný nový rok opice  ::MonkeyTongue::
The guns and rockets are going off right now. I feel like I live in a third world country.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Sounds like that most nights in Detroit!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Booooo You are still up. I live in I guess what would be the equivalent of Dearborn. Does that make sense?

Yes it does!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Well good night boo. You feel better in the morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2009, 01:15:02 AM
Hi darla!  Glad you could join us  ::MonkeyDance::

Good night for all those monkeys headed for the bunky.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 01:16:51 AM
Nite Monkeys, thank you Red, Klaas, Muffy et al for letting me have a special New Years Eve with my monkey friends.

My resolution shall be: on topic, no silliness, no Josef talk and pray Casey if convicted of all charges.

Hugs to you all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:18:16 AM
It's minutes away from New Years here, but they it sounds like Bagdad outside with the guns going off. Happy New Years 2009 all monkeys

Happy new yr JSM ::MonkeyCool:: I'll even pull for the Red team over Ole Miss just for you..............damn, as an aggie fan that's tough but for you and the pup I'll bite my lip and do it ::MonkeyDance::
ok, it's islandmonkey right? you moved from c-ville to fla.? i am so jealous!
wendi

I did, I ha been wanting to move for many, many reasons and got a job offer~so, I just went for it and I lllllluv it. At first I assumed everybody was on drugs here because they were so damn nice, but it tuns out beach life just makes them happy ::MonkeyTongue::
i can't believe it. i guess you come & visit then or if it were me i would visit there. it is so nice having the mall, hubby loves bonefish, i like carrabas & blue burrito. when was the last time you were here to visit or have you not been back?

My fave and the kids was Chapultepec ::MonkeyWaa:: I do miss that.......no, I've not been back since-I just packed up my tiny car and left, then had the house stuff moved later. I can't see any reason to return because everytime my daughter or son mentions "come for a visit, well-they literally do". This summer we had guest for 2 months straight ::MonkeyEek:: My avi is my view, so it does make it hard to leave ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2009, 01:18:46 AM
Nite Monkeys, thank you Red, Klaas, Muffy et al for letting me have a special New Years Eve with my monkey friends.

My resolution shall be: on topic, no silliness, no Josef talk and pray Casey if convicted of all charges.

Hugs to you all!

Good night JSM.  Sleep well.  (can't we still have Josef talk in musings or 4 legged friends thread?  I would miss that...not to mention at least a bit of silliness ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:20:53 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:24:50 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi



My son is 8!!!!! But, his girlfriend from Bailey Station Elementary lives there, we moved right after the Memphis Massacre and the last big snow, he stayed overnight with his Aintree friends-it was the first overnight he ever had. I know alot of people moving to Hernando or Olive Branch just to get the h@ll out of Shelby County. I'm in fixed income capital markets, .....MK.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:26:10 AM
the grasshopper. it's great, good food, friendly people, & close enough to go have a drink. i cannot believe i met another monkey from here! (g-town, c-ville) bowla pasta is good too, also royal panda. it's usually chalputapec for me & the girls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 01:26:30 AM
Happy New Year, again, from Texas

jaggard19, always 1, joesamas mama, higherhopes, Maw, Rooscrew, BooMonkey, Keepthefaith, islandmonkey, darla, seemeatthebeach, Sea Searcher, heykim, KCJackie, codemonkey, MuffyBee, Bongosmom, littletxlady, tabandmike, AzGrama, Jerseygirl345, flamom and 9 Guests



Happy New Year..............I hope its the best year of your life!!!!!!!!!!!!



I really think 2009 will be a great year for my whole family, wishing you the same!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 01:27:13 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 01:29:59 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


that renews my faith in mankind... what a sweetie!
thanks for sharing that kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:32:26 AM
the grasshopper. it's great, good food, friendly people, & close enough to go have a drink. i cannot believe i met another monkey from here! (g-town, c-ville) bowla pasta is good too, also royal panda. it's usually chalputapec for me & the girls.

It's a small world! The kids love Royal Panda C-13, and I have ordered sooooo many times from Bolla Pasta and used to work with Frank Grisanti when he was a broker before he went into the family business. My daughter has been back twice and the first place she goes is Chapultepec ::MonkeyTongue:: What type business is your huuby in??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:32:36 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi



My son is 8!!!!! But, his girlfriend from Bailey Station Elementary lives there, we moved right after the Memphis Massacre and the last big snow, he stayed overnight with his Aintree friends-it was the first overnight he ever had. I know alot of people moving to Hernando or Olive Branch just to get the h@ll out of Shelby County. I'm in fixed income capital markets, .....MK.
wasn't the memphis massacre horrible. i thought it was the brother when they said he was out on parole & had threatened his brother with a knife or gun over a leather jacket. my husband is not real sure about hernando, cause he's lived in germantown since he was 12, but i think he will like it. this area will go downhill, if it wasn't for the 24 hr security guards, i would have already been gone. you know outback closed, on the border, i am not sure what else. you know there was a fire in c-ville the other nite & a 51 year lady died. the police said arson, but they think it was personal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 01:32:36 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


that renews my faith in mankind... what a sweetie!
thanks for sharing that kiddo!

Aw thanks, Kim! Yeah, he's a keeper!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: yuknomenot on January 01, 2009, 01:34:02 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


Had to log in to say how wonderful for you!  Only you can say what he is, but until you figure it out, maybe you can call him MW (Mister Wonderful)?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:35:42 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 

how bout special friend, but he sure sounds like he is sweet on you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:40:07 AM
the grasshopper. it's great, good food, friendly people, & close enough to go have a drink. i cannot believe i met another monkey from here! (g-town, c-ville) bowla pasta is good too, also royal panda. it's usually chalputapec for me & the girls.

It's a small world! The kids love Royal Panda C-13, and I have ordered sooooo many times from Bolla Pasta and used to work with Frank Grisanti when he was a broker before he went into the family business. My daughter has been back twice and the first place she goes is Chapultepec ::MonkeyTongue:: What type business is your huuby in??

moving & storage. the good thing is at least i don't have to pack up all this stuff. we have already had the fragile stuff packed & some of the furniture moved but we still have a ton more. i had to go to the dr. today for what he thinks is a pinched nerve & is referring me to a neurologist, but it is killing me cause i want to supervise the packing but at least i don't have to do it myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:40:09 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi



My son is 8!!!!! But, his girlfriend from Bailey Station Elementary lives there, we moved right after the Memphis Massacre and the last big snow, he stayed overnight with his Aintree friends-it was the first overnight he ever had. I know alot of people moving to Hernando or Olive Branch just to get the h@ll out of Shelby County. I'm in fixed income capital markets, .....MK.
wasn't the memphis massacre horrible. i thought it was the brother when they said he was out on parole & had threatened his brother with a knife or gun over a leather jacket. my husband is not real sure about hernando, cause he's lived in germantown since he was 12, but i think he will like it. this area will go downhill, if it wasn't for the 24 hr security guards, i would have already been gone. you know outback closed, on the border, i am not sure what else. you know there was a fire in c-ville the other nite & a 51 year lady died. the police said arson, but they think it was personal.

It was horrific, and to think that no one bothered to even call the police??? I didn't know all the news yours telling me, weird-I'll have to catch up as my parent still live in the area......curious about the fire. I've heard that things are geting bad fast, it's so refreshing to be here, I have yet to even taken the keys out of the car and nobody even locks their doors here. Oh, I forgot my daughter rode 3 times a week at Aintree and we where in Aintree when the clubhouse burned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2009, 01:41:37 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


That was very nice of him, CBB.  Happy New Year!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 01:42:13 AM
HAPPY NEW YEARS CENTRAL TIME ZONE MONKEYS ... HAPPY NEW YEARS CENTRAL TIME ZONE MONKEYS ...  



(http://augustachronicle.com/images/headlines/123199/lombardo.jpg)

Guy Lombardo Style


sorry for the delay ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: yuknomenot on January 01, 2009, 01:46:32 AM
HAPPY NEW YEARS CENTRAL TIME ZONE MONKEYS ... HAPPY NEW YEARS CENTRAL TIME ZONE MONKEYS ...  



(http://augustachronicle.com/images/headlines/123199/lombardo.jpg)

Guy Lombardo Style


sorry for the delay ...

Happy New Year Red and thank you for SM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:47:56 AM
As a new monkey, I am having some computer issues.  I have 15 minutes until the new year here and can't wait until it's bedtime.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:49:16 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi



My son is 8!!!!! But, his girlfriend from Bailey Station Elementary lives there, we moved right after the Memphis Massacre and the last big snow, he stayed overnight with his Aintree friends-it was the first overnight he ever had. I know alot of people moving to Hernando or Olive Branch just to get the h@ll out of Shelby County. I'm in fixed income capital markets, .....MK.
wasn't the memphis massacre horrible. i thought it was the brother when they said he was out on parole & had threatened his brother with a knife or gun over a leather jacket. my husband is not real sure about hernando, cause he's lived in germantown since he was 12, but i think he will like it. this area will go downhill, if it wasn't for the 24 hr security guards, i would have already been gone. you know outback closed, on the border, i am not sure what else. you know there was a fire in c-ville the other nite & a 51 year lady died. the police said arson, but they think it was personal.

It was horrific, and to think that no one bothered to even call the police??? I didn't know all the news yours telling me, weird-I'll have to catch up as my parent still live in the area......curious about the fire. I've heard that things are geting bad fast, it's so refreshing to be here, I have yet to even taken the keys out of the car and nobody even locks their doors here. Oh, I forgot my daughter rode 3 times a week at Aintree and we where in Aintree when the clubhouse burned.
um, let me guess, louis taught her. my niece used to take from louise, but this summer i waited to late so she takes lessons at magnolia manor from louis' best friend ms. jane!!!! i will be making the trip from hdo to germantown for her lessons. my sister works so i am in charge of getting her to horseback lessons. did you know that you used to be able to ride all the horses thru the trails in aintree. people got tired of the poop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:49:57 AM
Wendi~you should email me so we don't go off topic one day (like I tend to do every now and then). I have a safe addy pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com send me a message and I'll give you the real addy and we can keep up! I'm heading to the bunkey for now, so chat with you later.

Red, Klaas, and all the mods a huge thanks to the bestest place with the brightest minds, and the funniest poster. Love ya all ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 01:52:55 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


What a sweet freind he is  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:53:09 AM
how long has your son & girlfriend lived in aintree? (if you don't mind me asking) hubby has been here since '91. we are soon to be moving to hernando. (my hometown) all of hubby's family is here but you know we haven't had a clubhouse since the fire dec 17 '06, so it's been frustrating. we didn't use the clubhouse but their is (was actually)alot of stuff going on since it's takin' so long to get it rebuilt. i saw just today they are breaking ground on the new clubhouse. FINALLY. can i ask you what kind of work do you do? not specifically, just in general. hubby is in family business so that is how we know most people. (he knows alot more than me)
wendi



My son is 8!!!!! But, his girlfriend from Bailey Station Elementary lives there, we moved right after the Memphis Massacre and the last big snow, he stayed overnight with his Aintree friends-it was the first overnight he ever had. I know alot of people moving to Hernando or Olive Branch just to get the h@ll out of Shelby County. I'm in fixed income capital markets, .....MK.
wasn't the memphis massacre horrible. i thought it was the brother when they said he was out on parole & had threatened his brother with a knife or gun over a leather jacket. my husband is not real sure about hernando, cause he's lived in germantown since he was 12, but i think he will like it. this area will go downhill, if it wasn't for the 24 hr security guards, i would have already been gone. you know outback closed, on the border, i am not sure what else. you know there was a fire in c-ville the other nite & a 51 year lady died. the police said arson, but they think it was personal.

It was horrific, and to think that no one bothered to even call the police??? I didn't know all the news yours telling me, weird-I'll have to catch up as my parent still live in the area......curious about the fire. I've heard that things are geting bad fast, it's so refreshing to be here, I have yet to even taken the keys out of the car and nobody even locks their doors here. Oh, I forgot my daughter rode 3 times a week at Aintree and we where in Aintree when the clubhouse burned.
um, let me guess, louis taught her. my niece used to take from louise, but this summer i waited to late so she takes lessons at magnolia manor from louis' best friend ms. jane!!!! i will be making the trip from hdo to germantown for her lessons. my sister works so i am in charge of getting her to horseback lessons. did you know that you used to be able to ride all the horses thru the trails in aintree. people got tired of the poop.

Of course Louise taught her, she's the best and my daughter asked me if you would go give Dewey (her most favorite horse a big hug) for her. I used to swim at the clubhouse while she rode...........night night, you have my e-mail!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2009, 01:54:33 AM
As a new monkey, I am having some computer issues.  I have 15 minutes until the new year here and can't wait until it's bedtime.

I'm finishing off some champagne, since it's 2009 here.  It won't be too much longer, and you'll be enjoying 2009 too!
Isn't it just awful when we have computer issues  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 01:56:05 AM
As a new monkey, I am having some computer issues.  I have 15 minutes until the new year here and can't wait until it's bedtime.

Sorry you are having issues Blurrymonkey.  Happy New Year to you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 01:56:38 AM
Wendi~you should email me so we don't go off topic one day (like I tend to do every now and then). I have a safe addy pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com send me a message and I'll give you the real addy and we can keep up! I'm heading to the bunkey for now, so chat with you later.

Red, Klaas, and all the mods a huge thanks to the bestest place with the brightest minds, and the funniest poster. Love ya all ::MonkeyDance::

i will e-mail you. it was great talking to you! happy new years!
wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 02:01:10 AM
Calling it a night now in the forum.  HAPPY NEW YEAR and GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 01, 2009, 02:02:31 AM
Logged back in to post wendi's (hint, hint, wendi!)selections in my new thread, and could not resist catching up here.

Wanted to be here when you on the left coast see in the new year!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/ChristmasNewYears/hnymonkeys-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 02:03:11 AM
HAPPY NEW YEARS MOUNTAIN TIME ZONE MONKEYS

(http://dl8.glitter-graphics.net/pub/858/858568w2vwqjzupo.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 01, 2009, 02:03:47 AM
Calling it a night now in the forum.  HAPPY NEW YEAR and GOODNIGHT ALL!

Good night, Klaas .. Thanks for all you have done for me in 2008!

Happy New Year!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 02:03:55 AM
Calling it a night now in the forum.  HAPPY NEW YEAR and GOODNIGHT ALL!

Happy New Year Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 01, 2009, 02:08:52 AM
Logged back in to post wendi's (hint, hint, wendi!)selections in my new thread, and could not resist catching up here.

Wanted to be here when you on the left coast see in the new year!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/ChristmasNewYears/hnymonkeys-1.gif)

Well, time for me to call it a night.

And to all who thanked me for avatar work, you are all very welcome!

Good night everyone!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:09:23 AM
Happy New Years!!

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/woohoo.gif) Are we still O/T??  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/woohoo.gif)

Been playing the designated driver all evening, not done yet actually, honestly.   ::MonkeyWink::

To those who posted messages to me later in the evening, thank you, I did read them, and appreciate your loving support as much as I do all the other monkeys! 

Boo... you had me cracking up so much!!  What a riot!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Just gotta say.. I got to see the Monkees in concert AND won a backstage pass, so actually got to meet Davy Jones!  *be still my heart*   ::MonkeyTongue::

And Jerseygirl.. This pic you posted, OMG!!!!  Hilarious!!!!! 


(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Caylee/As-ducted.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:12:11 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


that renews my faith in mankind... what a sweetie!
thanks for sharing that kiddo!

Aw thanks, Kim! Yeah, he's a keeper!  ::MonkeyWink::


DEFinitely a KEEPER!  happy new year kiddo.... and enjoy the memory


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:14:57 AM
Heartfelt thanks to Red for making this forum available to us, it's honestly THE best forum on the net!   

More heartfelt thanks to the rest of admin and the mods.  Y'all are awesome, and you rock!   

Love n hugs to all monkeys, wishing everyone a most blessed, prosperous, healthy and happy new year!! 

 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:17:09 AM
Heartfelt thanks to Red for making this forum available to us, it's honestly THE best forum on the net!   

More heartfelt thanks to the rest of admin and the mods.  Y'all are awesome, and you rock!   

Love n hugs to all monkeys, wishing everyone a most blessed, prosperous, healthy and happy new year!! 

 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::






back at ya wyksI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 02:19:46 AM
Thanks, guys!

My wish for all of you on this "beginning" is health, and happiness, and lots of loved ones to share it with!


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Monkeys are THE BEST!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:20:02 AM
uh... that shoulda been WYKS! not wyksI...

and no.. i HAVENT been drinking *L*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:23:36 AM
okay... had a minor set back... grandson just *ahem*... tossed his cookies. REPEATEDLY....

quite nasty... and not the way to start out the new year..
heck..not even a great way to END an old year...

anywho... all better now...
although I feel a bit queasy now...


so.. got 37 minutes to go...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:23:39 AM
uh... that shoulda been WYKS! not wyksI...

and no.. i HAVENT been drinking *L*

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks heykim! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 02:24:53 AM
I had this all ready, but we'll have to use our imagination now...............


HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 02:27:21 AM
I've still got about a half an hour to go, so I'll wish you all a Happy New Year now since I'll be outside banging pots and pans with my little one at midnight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:28:59 AM
Calling it a night now in the forum.  HAPPY NEW YEAR and GOODNIGHT ALL!

NITE KLAAS! HAPPY NEW YEAR KIDDO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:30:00 AM
OH! You guys think your sooooo funny!! I can't turn my back for a few minutes to watch a couple of Cowsill videos and yall sneak out of the room on me!! Well I found ya!! Howd you like them apples!!! You can't ditch me yet!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Giggling bunch of Monkey butts!!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:30:16 AM
I've still got about a half an hour to go, so I'll wish you all a Happy New Year now since I'll be outside banging pots and pans with my little one at midnight!

ADORABLE... gosh what memories THAT brings back...
i havent heard of anyone using pots and pans for 50 years! *L*

happy new year kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:33:11 AM
I had this all ready, but we'll have to use our imagination now...............


HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


28 minutes and counting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:33:42 AM
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/monkey%20smilies/monkeybump.gif) 
for the Sheriff, in case he missed it.  lol


I know it is a new year for my second favorite cuddle bug. I have a poem for you.

Dearest Sheriff Beary, you have a few days until you leave us. Please for the love of God, man and all Scared Monkeys. PLEASE arrest any members of the Anthony family that are not already incarcerated. I bought a lovely large pizza to ring in the new year. You look like you really enjoy food and would like a pizza of your own. If you feel incline to arrest them, I will be off work all day tomorrow. I may be at the Cotton Bowl game on Friday, but if you give me a heads up, I will for go the A** whuppin of Ole Miss by Texas Tech and sit by my computer in hopes of watching your lovely rotundness pulling Cindy out of her house and into the Crown Vic of your choosing. Sincerely Joesamas Mama Hugs and Kisses to you my favorite High Sheriff (except for Andy Taylor of Mayberry fame)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:35:10 AM
uh... that shoulda been WYKS! not wyksI...

and no.. i HAVENT been drinking *L*

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks heykim! 

youre welcome kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:36:53 AM
well .. made it to the new cage, but now i have to go out in the COLD and SNOW and walk THOR the vicious yorkie...
if i dont make it back..
i always loved yall best...

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:37:42 AM
just takin a moment to thank BRANDI for the new avitar..
thank you for the OLD avatar... and gosh dang it... thank you for being the kind of great person you are, to go out of your way to do nice things for others!

thanks bran! and happy new year kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:39:48 AM
Kim, I have a neighbor with two yorkies, one is named gucci and the other is tank.   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:40:51 AM
well .. made it to the new cage, but now i have to go out in the COLD and SNOW and walk THOR the vicious yorkie...
if i dont make it back..
i always loved yall best...

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::

yeah...its odd..
his name as a BABY pup was LEO (i am a leo)... but my darlin honeymoon changed it when we got him to THOR..
THOR fits him... he is 6 lbs of VICIOUS..
okay... not to HIM, but to ME..
i left for alaska when he was a little one... and when i returned my husband was letting him sleep with him... NOW he is HIS dog.. and the little twit doesnt LIKE when i try to go to bed... he goes PSYCHO on me when i head to bed at nite..

thor...not my husband..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:42:23 AM
well .. made it to the new cage, but now i have to go out in the COLD and SNOW and walk THOR the vicious yorkie...
if i dont make it back..
i always loved yall best...

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::

yeah...its odd..
his name as a BABY pup was LEO (i am a leo)... but my darlin honeymoon changed it when we got him to THOR..
THOR fits him... he is 6 lbs of VICIOUS..
okay... not to HIM, but to ME..
i left for alaska when he was a little one... and when i returned my husband was letting him sleep with him... NOW he is HIS dog.. and the little twit doesnt LIKE when i try to go to bed... he goes PSYCHO on me when i head to bed at nite..

thor...not my husband..

ahahaha!!  isn't that just the way it happens!!  too funny...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:43:46 AM
Kim, I have a neighbor with two yorkies, one is named gucci and the other is tank.   ::MonkeyHaHa::




heh... yeppers... those yorkies can be as BIG in their minds as the names are!

THOR sure is a cutie... but he ONLY cuddles up to ME if my husband isnt home...
as soon as the car pulls up...he makes a MAD DASH for DADDY...

and i am dogmeat...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:46:41 AM
Well all, one more round of 'designated driver' duty calls.  Am probably the only sober driver in town.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

And then it's off to the bunkey for this gramma monkey.  Happy New Year everyone!  G'nite monkeys and guests!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:48:46 AM
well yall... i will bid you all a good nite..
its been great getting to know you all a bit better in the OFF TOPIC evening..
its a few moments to midnite...i have a coupla grandkiddos to mooch.. a daughter and my husband..(not necessarily in that order)


see you all in 2009!
hugs and best wishes to you all!


kim


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: heykim on January 01, 2009, 02:49:51 AM
Well all, one more round of 'designated driver' duty calls.  Am probably the only sober driver in town.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

And then it's off to the bunkey for this gramma monkey.  Happy New Year everyone!  G'nite monkeys and guests!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)





nite wyks! great chit chattin with ya!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 02:59:53 AM
BUCKLE UP HERE WE GO!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 03:01:08 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR AGAIN!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 01, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
I'll say goodnight, or Good morning to this thread!!!

See you guys tomorrow!

God Bless 2009 for us all!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: IBE on January 01, 2009, 03:09:18 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR

Some city or univerisity near me has done 8 minutes of a  fireworks display. Can hear them but the fog is so thick. Hope there aren't any gunshots.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: IBE on January 01, 2009, 03:18:34 AM
Since you were talking about General Hospital. Is Kent Masters-King still on there as a psychologist or ?? She was the young black girl on Knots Landing. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 03:20:26 AM
SURPRISE FOR ME ON NEW YEARS!!

My ( help me make up a name, 'cause I don't really know what he is ) friend, employee, soul mate, showed up ringing my door so that I wouldn't miss a kiss at midnight!

 ::MonkeyDance::

He just left, so I wanted to come back and wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 


that renews my faith in mankind... what a sweetie!
thanks for sharing that kiddo!

Aw thanks, Kim! Yeah, he's a keeper!  ::MonkeyWink::

 :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 03:41:06 AM
well .. made it to the new cage, but now i have to go out in the COLD and SNOW and walk THOR the vicious yorkie...
if i dont make it back..
i always loved yall best...

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::

yeah...its odd..
his name as a BABY pup was LEO (i am a leo)... but my darlin honeymoon changed it when we got him to THOR..
THOR fits him... he is 6 lbs of VICIOUS..
okay... not to HIM, but to ME..
i left for alaska when he was a little one... and when i returned my husband was letting him sleep with him... NOW he is HIS dog.. and the little twit doesnt LIKE when i try to go to bed... he goes PSYCHO on me when i head to bed at nite..

thor...not my husband..

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: IBE on January 01, 2009, 03:42:23 AM
NewfieMor

Maybe all the Hoosers can meet in the Lounge sometime? There are many here and maybe one of them is the caller from Indiana on NG

I am a grad of Purdue. Grew up in Indianapolis. Met husband (now ex) there. While he finished his grad work I taught at Clarks Hill (2nd grade) and Elston (3rd grade) Lived at an apt. that i think is still there. 2 story colonial at the corner of Harrison and umm senior moment here.. It's just south of the Union. Think it was State street. Found a lost dog at Christmas eve where Sears used to be near the bridge and the Wabash...was walking home to Wis. I love WLA. Had "honeymoon" in Lafayette 46 years right this moment. I miss the people in Indiana alot. My cousin wants me to come back and live there... would have to have a basement, indoor lap pool and hydroponics. Was there in 2002 tornado. Did volunteer work with the Salvation Army as a volunteer from the local CA American Legion Auxiliary.

OK  Klaas, sorry to be O/T.

It's nice to be with the Monkey Family here. An update... still nothing more about Donna Jou (in missing thread) She just went "poof". LAPD said the east edge of Palms (in Westside LA) is known for trafficking... gee looks are deceiving

Found out the Salvation Army has for decades or more than a hundred years???? been very active in anti-humane trafficking. Can't find a Kettle anywhere around here. Will have to use the online donation site.

PS.. I have shown Tim Miller possible search sites. To me,he is the greatest. Too bad he wasn't allowed to come in here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: IBE on January 01, 2009, 04:01:42 AM
Guess I am on a roll here tonight. I just went back to the Donna Jou thread under Missing Persons. Great Monkeys are asking where we can put pressure to get some answers. We need a Monkey Family effort, so all the new Monkeys please visit there, please we need your help. You would be interested in this site, I believe.

It has many twists... like with Mrs. Red, Klaas, Tim Miller, Gloria Alred, Dr. Phil, Malibu, police following up and not, pictures of places where one very T-d off Monkey would hide a body in LA et al, Satan, Sinjin, a band, guns, a boat, motorcycle, lying, a body or something wrapped up supposedly posted by the "suspect", tool boxes, someone bidding up to $800 for the contents of his storage unit, mysterious cell and text messages, Monkeys at rallys and more.

If you go over there, please read from page one.. it's only about 23 pages. Even Kermit is there... ie: it ever gets "dull" here in the Caylee Thread! or you need a break.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 01, 2009, 05:08:31 AM
Happy happy New Year to all the wonderful Monkeys here...

(Crazy reading in here tonight, and it was fun...  Silly monkeys!) ::cartwheel::

Praying that 2009 will bring justice for our little Caylee angel...

Grandparents who raised a messed-up daughter
Grandparents who didn't even know that she was seven months pregnant
Grandparents who ..
.. covered up their demon daughter's crimes
.. called her "sociopath" behind her back, but did nothing
.. let her take her own child away for mysterious overnights
.. paid for everything and never held the mother accountable
.. allowed their child to lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more
.. have big issues of their own with gambling, lying, violence, secrets
.. covered up the secret of "who the father is"
.. waited for a month to pass without seeing their grandchild
.. never knew or saw the supposed "nanny"
.. didn't call police when they smelled that abandoned car
.. then reported thefts of $$ and a car before mentioning a missing child
.. lied to investigators who were trying to find their granddaughter
.. arrogantly called the public names and lied to the media
.. blatantly tampered with witnesses
.. also tampered with evidence, even giving LE the wrong brush
.. got in confrontations with protesters, but not their murdering daughter
.. continued to defend their daughter by pretending the baby wasn't dead
.. allowed their murdered grandchild to rot out in the elements for six months while claiming that her killer is "Mother of the Year"

IMO, these are NOT grandparents who should be asking for immunity!!

Instead of immunity, they need... humilityHonestyRespect for Caylee.
They need to get busy and respectfully bury their poor grandchild and change their tune immediately; start coughing up nothing but the truth, in honor of Caylee.

No immunity, no publicity, no book or movie deals, no more Larry King Live, no more limo rides, no more secrets. 
Just the truth.

(Yeah, I know.  But I can dream, can't I? -- and sorry for the rant.)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 01, 2009, 06:46:23 AM
Happy happy New Year to all the wonderful Monkeys here...

(Crazy reading in here tonight, and it was fun...  Silly monkeys!) ::cartwheel::

Praying that 2009 will bring justice for our little Caylee angel...

Grandparents who raised a messed-up daughter
Grandparents who didn't even know that she was seven months pregnant
Grandparents who ..
.. covered up their demon daughter's crimes
.. called her "sociopath" behind her back, but did nothing
.. let her take her own child away for mysterious overnights
.. paid for everything and never held the mother accountable
.. allowed their child to lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more
.. have big issues of their own with gambling, lying, violence, secrets
.. covered up the secret of "who the father is"
.. waited for a month to pass without seeing their grandchild
.. never knew or saw the supposed "nanny"
.. didn't call police when they smelled that abandoned car
.. then reported thefts of $$ and a car before mentioning a missing child
.. lied to investigators who were trying to find their granddaughter
.. arrogantly called the public names and lied to the media
.. blatantly tampered with witnesses
.. also tampered with evidence, even giving LE the wrong brush
.. got in confrontations with protesters, but not their murdering daughter
.. continued to defend their daughter by pretending the baby wasn't dead
.. allowed their murdered grandchild to rot out in the elements for six months while claiming that her killer is "Mother of the Year"

IMO, these are NOT grandparents who should be asking for immunity!!

Instead of immunity, they need... humilityHonestyRespect for Caylee.
They need to get busy and respectfully bury their poor grandchild and change their tune immediately; start coughing up nothing but the truth, in honor of Caylee.

No immunity, no publicity, no book or movie deals, no more Larry King Live, no more limo rides, no more secrets. 
Just the truth.

(Yeah, I know.  But I can dream, can't I? -- and sorry for the rant.)




Excellent post!

BYW, if Cindy thought Casey was "mother of the year", why, in the last 911 phone call when the dispatcher was waiting for Casey to get on the phone, did Cindy scream, "They (the police) need to get here soon before I beat the $hit out of her"???????  Doesn't sound like Cindy thought too much of Casey at that time.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 06:58:14 AM
Start passing out the java SS! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 07:04:19 AM
Good Morning Monkeys !!

Happy New Year ! to those who couldn't stay up last night....

Coffee Time !!! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 07:15:05 AM
Start passing out the java SS! ::MonkeyConfused::

Mornin' Newfie... (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/ASPRIN_A.gif)

I think you and Boo gave me a hernia last night  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 01, 2009, 07:16:52 AM
http://tinyurl.com/75k8rd
Happy New year from one Monkey to all the Monkeysssssss!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 07:18:22 AM
Start passing out the java SS! ::MonkeyConfused::

Mornin' Newfie... (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/ASPRIN_A.gif)

I think you and Boo gave me a hernia last night  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Aaahhh!  Coffee AND Aspirin!  You are the Best SS!  Boo was hilarious!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 07:20:09 AM
Happy New Year Nut!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 07:22:19 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 07:25:29 AM
Morning Today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:35:02 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 07:37:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

Mornin' Trimm.... Coffee for you !

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:57:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

Mornin' Trimm.... Coffee for you !

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee-3.gif)


Yes,Thanks for the coffe.Won't be needing anything for a headache though.He left about 4:30.......... ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:02:55 AM

Yes,Thanks for the coffe.Won't be needing anything for a headache though.He left about 4:30.......... ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Pop Tarts in hand..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:05:17 AM
Anthony's Attorney Lays Groundwork For Immunity.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8177599&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:05:59 AM
Last Night in all the excitement..someone posted that there were 300min of new video released, I can't find it anywhere...has any one seen it yet ? I think it was during the Not Nancy Grace show


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:06:40 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

Mornin' Trimm.... Coffee for you !

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee-3.gif)


Yes,Thanks for the coffe.Won't be needing anything for a headache though.He left about 4:30.......... ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:13:28 AM
Conway said that while he doesn’t believe the Anthony’s have ever said anything that makes him think they will need protection he’s confident that an immunity deal is needed and will happen.

Also according to Conway, he believes the defense may finish with the toddlers remains by the end of the week. Then he said the family can focus on laying the little girl to rest.

Once the burial is over, Conway believes investigators wil question the Anthony’s again.

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1.  If he doesn't think they've said anything ... why is he confident immunity is needed?
2.  I hope they are questioned again ~ while in handcuffs!

And Sea ~ I saw that post too ~ The only video I saw on NG last night was the stuff we've already seen.  (of course I wasn't watching diligently ... as I was being entertained here!)  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:16:45 AM
Anthony's Attorney Lays Groundwork For Immunity.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8177599&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The grandparents of slain toddler Caylee Anthony will seek immunity from prosecution.



The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony said Wednesday that he began laying the groundwork with prosecutors shortly after he took the Anthony’s on as clients.
 
"These people (the Anthony's) have done nothing wrong, but are the subject of a lot of undeserved animosity,” said attorney Brad Conway

ummmm....should we email this guy a list ?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SweetMorgan on January 01, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
GoodMorning and Happy New Year to SweetMorgan, Fuzzball, Today, NewfieMonkey, Sea Searcher, jaggard19, trimmonthelake, mioyshi and 12 Guests  (and all other Monkeys too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SweetMorgan on January 01, 2009, 08:18:39 AM
Not too bright this morning I said Good Morning to myself!   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:20:19 AM
Anthony's Attorney Lays Groundwork For Immunity.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8177599&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The grandparents of slain toddler Caylee Anthony will seek immunity from prosecution.



The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony said Wednesday that he began laying the groundwork with prosecutors shortly after he took the Anthony’s on as clients.
 
"These people (the Anthony's) have done nothing wrong, but are the subject of a lot of undeserved animosity,” said attorney Brad Conway

ummmm....should we email this guy a list ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

This is ridiculous- I mean, just because people don't like them, that isn't any logical reason to ask for immunity. Now the fact that they may have done something, THAT is why they might want to. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 08:23:28 AM
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Also according to Conway, he believes the defense may finish with the toddlers remains by the end of the week. Then he said the family can focus on laying the little girl to rest.

It has been reported that Caylee's (not the toddler's, not the little girl's, but Caylee's) remains are at the funeral home.  I don't think a funeral home would allow examination of the bones.  They're not equipped for this are they?  What about respect for the other deceased at the funeral home, all those people coming and going to look at Caylee's remains?  Nope, I don't think the defense is examining anything.  Why this smokescreen?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:28:03 AM
"We didn't do anything wrong....George, don't say a word...honestly, we told the truth from day one....is that limo here yet....anything you guy's want to know, we'll be happy to tell you as long as you don't charge us with anything...go get my hammer George...
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
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Conway said prosecutors seem to be open to the idea.  Now, he's waiting for them to agree to sit down with him and sign the necessary paperwork.
 

Interesting wording.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:31:58 AM
Newly Released Full Version

Patrick Bourgious (classmate of Caylee)..."pops out of the woodwork"
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206761/index.html

George and Cindy July 25; morning part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html

George and Cindy July 25 morning; part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18205807/index.html

George and Cindy July 25 afternoon; Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206256/index.html

George and Cindy July 25 afternoon; Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206653/index.html

Lee Anthony July 25 morning/ part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18212491/index.html

Lee Anthony July 25 morning/ part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18212494/index.html

Lee Anthony July 25 morning/ part 3
http://www.wftv.com/video/18212521/index.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Newly Realeased Full Version...Video Jail Interviews.
Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html

Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206288/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:39:50 AM
Morning monkeys!

Hubby stayed up playing on the computer most of the night..  fell asleep for a couple of hours, and when he came up to get coffee and a shower, his left ear was covered in black stuff.  OMG it was the best laugh I've had this year!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:40:27 AM
(He has no idea what his head was laying on apparently...  but it was funny as heck!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:43:35 AM
Conway said that while he doesn’t believe the Anthony’s have ever said anything that makes him think they will need protection he’s confident that an immunity deal is needed and will happen.

Also according to Conway, he believes the defense may finish with the toddlers remains by the end of the week. Then he said the family can focus on laying the little girl to rest.

Once the burial is over, Conway believes investigators wil question the Anthony’s again.

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1.  If he doesn't think they've said anything ... why is he confident immunity is needed?
2.  I hope they are questioned again ~ while in handcuffs!

And Sea ~ I saw that post too ~ The only video I saw on NG last night was the stuff we've already seen.  (of course I wasn't watching diligently ... as I was being entertained here!)  ::MonkeyDance::


The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
Start passing out the java SS! ::MonkeyConfused::

Mornin' Newfie... (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/ASPRIN_A.gif)

I think you and Boo gave me a hernia last night  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Aaahhh!  Coffee AND Aspirin!  You are the Best SS!  Boo was hilarious!

Oooooo i need some of that coffeeee, please! Pretty please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 08:45:16 AM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


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VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Tater on January 01, 2009, 08:46:31 AM
Good morning and Happy New Year to all Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
So sorry we have monkeys feeling bad with sickness.Praying for quick healing for all....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SweetMorgan on January 01, 2009, 08:47:28 AM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


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VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.

This is just so bizarre!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
That's just so wrong, for people to KNOW Caylee was in those woods and then leave and not call LE. What were they thinking? Who would do that to a baby? Why wouldn't LP call police and tell them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:51:48 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......





(http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/datgrlstef/meow.jpg)


Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:54:16 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:59:00 AM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


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VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.

This is just so bizarre!


It's beyond bizarre. It's like a bad version of Punked. Bad joke I know,but this gets crazier everyday.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 08:59:30 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:00:19 AM
HAPPY NEW YEARS MONKS!!!!!  Happy morning monks!!!!!

I went to bed super early so I'm full of energy and coffee.

Maybe I even feel good enough to try and listen to the new tapes.  I just re-listened to the old ones so not sure how much I'll be able to take.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 09:01:31 AM
Interesting Video, well worth listening to.
VIDEO: Private Investigators May Have Known Where Caylee's Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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Excerpts from video of Belich report:

The two private eyes working with the Anthony's are giving two different stories. 

One claims he did not know her remains were here, the other says they both knew.

Padilla said that private investigator, Jim Hoover, who works with the Anthony's said he was told in November, by the Anthony's private eye, Dominic Casey, that this is where Caylee's body is hidden.

Mr. Casey said he didn't find anything in November, so he withheld the information from the Anthony's.

William Sheaffer, WFTV Legal Analyst:  Anything private eye did on his own, for anyone else, in fact is not is not covered by the work product privilege. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:07:45 AM
Listened to the Patrick video.  I did not hear anything new.  On to the next.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 09:07:53 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......


 ::MonkeyHaHa::





(http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/datgrlstef/meow.jpg)


Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:09:14 AM
Interesting Video, well worth listening to.
VIDEO: Private Investigators May Have Known Where Caylee's Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
-----------------------------------------------------------

Excerpts from video of Belich report:

The two private eyes working with the Anthony's are giving two different stories. 

One claims he did not know her remains were here, the other says they both knew.

Padilla said that private investigator, Jim Hoover, who works with the Anthony's said he was told in November, by the Anthony's private eye, Dominic Casey, that this is where Caylee's body is hidden.

Mr. Casey said he didn't find anything in November, so he withheld the information from the Anthony's.

William Sheaffer, WFTV Legal Analyst:  Anything private eye did on his own, for anyone else, in fact is not is not covered by the work product privilege. 



I would love to know if these people (one or both) knew where she was. If this one guy knew where the body was, and didn't tell LE, couldn't he be in big trouble??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:09:39 AM
Morning monkeys and Happy New Year!  I just looked at this link. 

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html

When George starts talking about the moon and stars with Caylee, Casey starts to break down.  It's at 5:10 .  She knows where she's at.  Wish she would have just broken down more at that time and admitted everything!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 09:09:45 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::

Yeah,I'll have to listen to them.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::
What link was this on Boo?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::


which tape is that in???? I want to hear that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::
I see you!  I just got on myself!  Good morning to you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 09:14:47 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::

It's all good anotherMonkey....they are being punished with more Anthony footage.Payback time.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 09:18:30 AM
GoodMorning and Happy New Year to SweetMorgan, Fuzzball, Today, NewfieMonkey, Sea Searcher, jaggard19, trimmonthelake, mioyshi and 12 Guests  (and all other Monkeys too!

AND A Super HAPPY NEW YEARS MoRNING back, to all the morning monkeys....

I feel super, fell asleep last night before the ball fell... Good news, no headache with this mornings coffee... The weather is going to be warm and sunny here today, I am planning to cook some bbribs out on the fire pit,,,, so the new year is starting off great....for me anyway.....not for the anthonys.....I would presume.  IT just might be the year for their karma to return.......mio





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:18:41 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::
I see you!  I just got on myself!  Good morning to you!!

Morning, Hiding! Glad to see you're not "hiding" this morning.  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyWink::   Did you have a nice night? I was asleep at midnight. My husband came in to wake me up and he scared the crap out of me.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:19:06 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::

It's all good anotherMonkey....they are being punished with more Anthony footage.Payback time.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 01, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::


which tape is that in???? I want to hear that.

Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 09:19:48 AM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.
Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.
However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.
"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.
This is just so bizarre!
Not so bizarre. This is why sexy LP said they had a closed team, they didn't let this joker in because they knew he was an amateur. These hotshots think they know the law and they are actually inexperienced and mess up.
The good guys work for LE. The clowns work for the Ants. This is what justice is all about.

It will come down to these clowns ratting each other out like the OJ personal belongings hotel issue. And behind it will be the Ants, like Casey who repeated on NG last night that LE isn't investigating this the way she wanted them to. She said that the detectives weren't cooperating with her and doing what she asked. When people like Casey don't know how LE works from watching CSI they think they can order LE around like a waiter. Doesn't work that way.

Now Cindy is in the news again making demands... what a bunch of losers. This isn't the Hilton Cindy, you can't call the front desk and expect your wishes to be fulfilled. You helped kill your granddaughter. You are an accessory to murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::


which tape is that in???? I want to hear that.

Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.



thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:21:41 AM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 09:22:02 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......

Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:23:01 AM
Oh Cheeky ... now you have me interested!  Perhaps I'll listen to a little bit.

BTW .. FOX ad for Greta tomorrow ... show will be about Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:23:50 AM

I feel super, fell asleep last night before the ball fell... Good news, no headache with this mornings coffee... The weather is going to be warm and sunny here today, I am planning to cook some bbribs out on the fire pit,,,, so the new year is starting off great....for me anyway.....not for the anthonys.....I would presume.  IT just might be the year for their karma to return.......mio

Morning Mio. Can you please tell me what time the ribs will be ready?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 09:24:11 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:25:25 AM

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::

Awwwww  :smt058  I'm sorry that happened, SS.  What a cute monkey you are. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:27:01 AM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 09:27:07 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......

Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::
"Don't ignore me, Dan".
*boiled bunny*
EEK.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 01, 2009, 09:31:39 AM
Good Morning All!  Boo - hope you are feeling better.  You were a riot last night  ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:32:40 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......

Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::
"Don't ignore me, Dan".
*boiled bunny*
EEK.
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:35:58 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:36:31 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.

I'd like to hear that myself!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 01, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html#

This link takes you to the listing, its the second 911 call -- the remark is made just after Cindy tells george that "zanny" took Caylee, then she says that she called them 2 hours ago, and she wishes that they would get there because she was going to beat the $hit out of Casey!  Listen to it, you can hear it.  I transcribe police interviews all the time and my earphones filter out noise, and I can hear it.  I can hear it without the earphones. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 09:48:45 AM

I feel super, fell asleep last night before the ball fell... Good news, no headache with this mornings coffee... The weather is going to be warm and sunny here today, I am planning to cook some bbribs out on the fire pit,,,, so the new year is starting off great....for me anyway.....not for the anthonys.....I would presume.  IT just might be the year for their karma to return.......mio

Morning Mio. Can you please tell me what time the ribs will be ready?  ::MonkeyWink::

why yes, anothermonkey I can tell you the ribs will cook slow over the open fire, made of seasoned oak. ( that I chopped and split)..maybe some veggies added there as well, I like to cook the whole meal without any electric help as often as I can...

I would say we will be eating around 4 ish. this afternoon....I will make sure we add enough food for all the monkeys, who can shovel themselves out of the snow, and get here in time....
Ya;ll can bring a bunch of bannanas for desert... heck, we will put them on the fire pit too!!  smiles, mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 09:49:32 AM
Happy New Year. While walking the dog this morning, I thought about the receipt or receipts from one of the stores Casey shopped at with Amy's checks. For the life of me I can't remember the store, LE didn't release to the public. Anyway I wonder if duct tape was purchased or something else that would have made no sense for Casey to have bought. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
Good morning, all!  I hope everyone's day is getting off to a good start.  Mine is, especially after hearing that Cindy supposedly threatened to beat the shit out of Casey.  If only it had done any good.

As much as I wish nothing had ever happened to Caylee, I can't imagine how much she would have suffered for the next 15-16 years of her life.  I think that even if physical abuse had not been an issue prior to her murder, the mental abuse alone would have been enough to make her life a living hell. She is in a much safer place now and feels no more pain.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 09:51:53 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.
Maybe if she would have, this could have ended much sooner. But instead it became a three ring circus, and total disrespect to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 09:52:27 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html#

This link takes you to the listing, its the second 911 call -- the remark is made just after Cindy tells george that "zanny" took Caylee, then she says that she called them 2 hours ago, and she wishes that they would get there because she was going to beat the $hit out of Casey!  Listen to it, you can hear it.  I transcribe police interviews all the time and my earphones filter out noise, and I can hear it.  I can hear it without the earphones. 


Thanks.  That may explain Cindy's long explanation about figures of speech to the FBI agent.  She goes on and on about how shaking the sh*t out of someone is just a figure of speech.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
I'll have to listen to it with headphones or something I have the speaker right up to my ear, and I can't hear that specific part. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 09:55:46 AM
Good morning, all!  I hope everyone's day is getting off to a good start.  Mine is, especially after hearing that Cindy supposedly threatened to beat the shit out of Casey.  If only it had done any good.

As much as I wish nothing had ever happened to Caylee, I can't imagine how much she would have suffered for the next 15-16 years of her life.  I think that even if physical abuse had not been an issue prior to her murder, the mental abuse alone would have been enough to make her life a living hell. She is in a much safer place now and feels no more pain.



Flossy,You speak the truth.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 09:59:27 AM
Good morning, all!  I hope everyone's day is getting off to a good start.  Mine is, especially after hearing that Cindy supposedly threatened to beat the shit out of Casey.  If only it had done any good.

As much as I wish nothing had ever happened to Caylee, I can't imagine how much she would have suffered for the next 15-16 years of her life.  I think that even if physical abuse had not been an issue prior to her murder, the mental abuse alone would have been enough to make her life a living hell. She is in a much safer place now and feels no more pain.



Flossy,You speak the truth.



Why, thank you, Trimm.


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:02:42 AM
I still couldn't hear Cindy saying that but I did hear the irritation in Casey's voice when Cindy put her on the phone to talk to the Dispatcher.  She really disgusts me with her attitude! UGH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:04:29 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:08:46 AM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:10:05 AM
I still couldn't hear Cindy saying that but I did hear the irritation in Casey's voice when Cindy put her on the phone to talk to the Dispatcher.  She really disgusts me with her attitude! UGH!

I agree, HM.  From the beginning of this whole thing, her attitude has just made my blood boil.  That narcissistic sense of entitlement (which is obviously shared by her mother and brother - not so sure about her dad) just sends my blood pressure upward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 10:10:21 AM
GOODMORNING TO ALL MY MONKEY FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 10:10:46 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!

newfie, that made me laugh outloud......I wonder if malory will wonder if LEE could do a number on the new baby, as casey did to Caylee....I would wonder, and watch him like a hawk, as those genes are not from the LEVI corporation....  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:12:18 AM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:13:08 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:13:09 AM
I still couldn't hear Cindy saying that but I did hear the irritation in Casey's voice when Cindy put her on the phone to talk to the Dispatcher.  She really disgusts me with her attitude! UGH!

Yeah.. when the dispatcher asks what's going on, and Casey's like "excuse me?" as though it was some nonchalant question like "what's your name?"  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:13:57 AM
I still couldn't hear Cindy saying that but I did hear the irritation in Casey's voice when Cindy put her on the phone to talk to the Dispatcher.  She really disgusts me with her attitude! UGH!

I agree, HM.  From the beginning of this whole thing, her attitude has just made my blood boil.  That narcissistic sense of entitlement (which is obviously shared by her mother and brother - not so sure about her dad) just sends my blood pressure upward.
You said exactly what I've been feeling.  Such a spoiled brat!  In some of the tapes in the jail with Cindy I noticed she gets this attitude.  When she does, Cindy seems to back down and allow it.  Makes me sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!

newfie, that made me laugh outloud......I wonder if malory will wonder if LEE could do a number on the new baby, as casey did to Caylee....I would wonder, and watch him like a hawk, as those genes are not from the LEVI corporation....  mio
I know one thing, if Mallory was my daughter, I would tell her to run as fast as she can, Lee would not be living with me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:16:28 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I agree with you! Talk about lazy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 10:18:17 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!

newfie, that made me laugh outloud......I wonder if malory will wonder if LEE could do a number on the new baby, as casey did to Caylee....I would wonder, and watch him like a hawk, as those genes are not from the LEVI corporation....  mio
I know one thing, if Mallory was my daughter, I would tell her to run as fast as she can, Lee would not be living with me.

Mallory's mother, Jody, would not want to give up her position at trustee to the Help Find Caylee... Trust Fund.  What happened to Lee returning the money?  That went no where fast.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 10:18:56 AM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!

Morning and Happy New Year Klassend....
I think they are all crooked, they all knew, they all lied, and soon, they will all be made to tell us all the truths, and no imunity will change the truths. How else would the meter reader know, unless someone gave him those specific clues, that casey and lee threw back and forth...There are more snakes in those woods than the ones that slither....mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JodyO on January 01, 2009, 10:19:16 AM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!

Morning Klaas and all the Monkeys, and Happy New Year to everyone! That is super interesting about the date when Nejame decided he wanted to disassociate himself from the A's. VERY interesting IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:20:02 AM
Glad I could help out with the laughter factor Mio!  ::MonkeyDance::

If anyone knew that Caylee's little body was laying out in that muck ... and left her there for even one additional second ... they deserve the death penalty IMO!  That's just sick!

Wonder if Lee moving has anything to do with the supposed pending charges?  Looks like he was definitely paring down on extraneous possessions!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:21:30 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:23:21 AM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!

Morning and Happy New Year Klassend....
I think they are all crooked, they all knew, they all lied, and soon, they will all be made to tell us all the truths, and no imunity will change the truths. How else would the meter reader know, unless someone gave him those specific clues, that casey and lee threw back and forth...There are more snakes in those woods than the ones that slither....mio
I agree with you, they are all crooked, it makes me sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Tevye on January 01, 2009, 10:23:33 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!
What, no tea this morning, Boo?? ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:24:31 AM
Morning Trimm :)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to get noticed around here. More often than not, I come in here and say good morning or whatever, and nobody says a word.  Starting to wonder if I did something? Or said something? Or.... maybe I have something disgusting on me and nobody wants to look?  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh anothermonkey!! No! I always have 4-6 screens up and not always "in the room!" I would never ignor you!!
Morning to you and all the other early monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:26:06 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Speaking of no immunity, how are you feeling today??

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:26:54 AM
Hugs to you, Boo! You're as cute and fuzzy-faced (in the way that I love!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ) as usual.  Happy 2009 to you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:28:08 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Speaking of no immunity, how are you feeling today??

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That was funny Flossy!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:29:01 AM
Good Morning All!  Boo - hope you are feeling better.  You were a riot last night  ::MonkeyWink:: 

Still coughing but yeah, feel a bit better with coffee in me. BTW you owe someone a dollar for me. I told them you would put in my share!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
Speaking of no immunity, how are you feeling today??

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That was funny Flossy!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks, Newfie!    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 01, 2009, 10:30:12 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 10:30:44 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
Good Morning All!  Boo - hope you are feeling better.  You were a riot last night  ::MonkeyWink:: 

Still coughing but yeah, feel a bit better with coffee in me. BTW you owe someone a dollar for me. I told them you would put in my share!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Come again??     ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:32:25 AM
Happy New Year!!  And good morning monks old and new and guests!

 anothermonkey, jaggard19, Tevye, Hiding Monkey, JodyO, joesamas mama, theboyzmom, Maria, flossy, Leroy, no rose colored glasses, BooMonkey, NewfieMonkey, LadyB, trimmonthelake, mioyshi, flamom, can, GramaMonkey, MalteseMom, Today, tcumom, Nut44x4, KiahJ and 37 Guests are viewing this topic.

We have a house full of guests coming but I wanted to take a moment and wish everyone a wonderful day!!
Right back atcha Sunny!  Have a great day!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:32:26 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 01, 2009, 10:33:03 AM
Good Morning All!  Boo - hope you are feeling better.  You were a riot last night  ::MonkeyWink:: 

Still coughing but yeah, feel a bit better with coffee in me. BTW you owe someone a dollar for me. I told them you would put in my share!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I've got ya covered  ::MonkeyCool:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:34:35 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:35:08 AM
What was the money for last night, a keg?? 

(Dang, I left too soon......)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:36:32 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:37:10 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!
What, no tea this morning, Boo?? ::MonkeyCool::
oooo staying away from "tea" today, but it sure helped last night!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:39:07 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Speaking of no immunity, how are you feeling today??

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh you funny!! As I recall you ain't so innocent either!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.
Thanks, I knew I'd heard something and wondered if I'd missed something since that.
Apparently not!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:42:06 AM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Speaking of no immunity, how are you feeling today??

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh you funny!! As I recall you ain't so innocent either!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me?  I'll have you know that I am as pure as the driven snow..............

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:42:43 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.
Thanks, I knew I'd heard something and wondered if I'd missed something since that.
Apparently not!

That's something he blurted out one time on NG, but I haven't heard of a video. Maybe the hotel got her on surveillance?  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
What was the money for last night, a keg?? 

(Dang, I left too soon......)

It was some bet I think, something about Seasearcher and streaking, can't remember, it's a bit fuzzy!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:44:24 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.
Thanks, I knew I'd heard something and wondered if I'd missed something since that.
Apparently not!

That's something he blurted out one time on NG, but I haven't heard of a video. Maybe the hotel got her on surveillance?  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::
That's what I'm thinking, because I could have sworn I heard LP say someone saw her, so that would make sense on surveillance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:45:41 AM
Me?  I'll have you know that I am as pure as the driven snow..............

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Hunny you aint been "pure" in quite some time!!! That's the rumor anyway!! You and your sext udders!! Just a flashing anyone that comes across your posts!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:45:52 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:45:59 AM
What was the money for last night, a keg?? 

(Dang, I left too soon......)

It was some bet I think, something about Seasearcher and streaking, can't remember, it's a bit fuzzy!  ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 01, 2009, 10:46:17 AM
Okay monkeys-I've got to sign off.  Have to go to Lowe's and get paint for bedroom!  Hubby wants to paint it!  Take care and I'll check in later!  Be good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 10:46:36 AM
Glad I could help out with the laughter factor Mio!  ::MonkeyDance::

If anyone knew that Caylee's little body was laying out in that muck ... and left her there for even one additional second ... they deserve the death penalty IMO!  That's just sick!

Wonder if Lee moving has anything to do with the supposed pending charges?  Looks like he was definitely paring down on extraneous possessions!

indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own  gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio












Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.
Thanks, I knew I'd heard something and wondered if I'd missed something since that.
Apparently not!

That's something he blurted out one time on NG, but I haven't heard of a video. Maybe the hotel got her on surveillance?  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::
That's what I'm thinking, because I could have sworn I heard LP say someone saw her, so that would make sense on surveillance.

I do remember him saying that the hotel surveillance video shows her pacing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 10:49:45 AM
Anthony's Attorney Lays Groundwork For Immunity.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8177599&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The grandparents of slain toddler Caylee Anthony will seek immunity from prosecution.



The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony said Wednesday that he began laying the groundwork with prosecutors shortly after he took the Anthony’s on as clients.
 
"These people (the Anthony's) have done nothing wrong, but are the subject of a lot of undeserved animosity,” said attorney Brad Conway

ummmm....should we email this guy a list ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

This is ridiculous- I mean, just because people don't like them, that isn't any logical reason to ask for immunity. Now the fact that they may have done something, THAT is why they might want to. 

 :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 10:51:27 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 10:53:36 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:53:50 AM

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The grandparents of slain toddler Caylee Anthony will seek immunity from prosecution.

The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony said Wednesday that he began laying the groundwork with prosecutors shortly after he took the Anthony’s on as clients.
 
"These people (the Anthony's) have done nothing wrong, but are the subject of a lot of undeserved animosity,” said attorney Brad Conway

ummmm....should we email this guy a list ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

This is ridiculous- I mean, just because people don't like them, that isn't any logical reason to ask for immunity. Now the fact that they may have done something, THAT is why they might want to. 

 :2waver:

Aww, man.  Conway just moved up on my LTPITF list.  (Like to punch in the face list)

I know he's doing his job, but once again he insults the intelligence of anyone with even a morsel of common sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:54:32 AM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own  gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 10:55:35 AM
Sorry Monkeys, I forgot my manners. GOOD MORNING!!!

I need more coffee. I tried listening to Cindy say she would beat the crap out of Casey on the 911 call, but I couldn't hear it. I will try again after my coffee.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:01:36 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::
No that makes sense Newfie. Someone else posted what I was thinking earlier. It looks like an eviction to me. I see it in rent houses here all the time. The tenants throw their junk/trash willy nilly in the yard for the scavengers and leave the rest for the landlord to clean up. Its kind of like the tenant is having the final word "you put me on the street, now look what you have to clean up" because they know they won't get their deposit back anyways. Make sense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 01, 2009, 11:02:16 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:04:20 AM
No that makes sense Newfie. Someone else posted what I was thinking earlier. It looks like an eviction to me. I see it in rent houses here all the time. The tenants throw their junk/trash willy nilly in the yard for the scavengers and leave the rest for the landlord to clean up. Its kind of like the tenant is having the final word "you put me on the street, now look what you have to clean up" because they know they won't get their deposit back anyways. Make sense?
That does make sense ...
kind of disrespectful to the landlord ... (Oops ... forgot who we were talking about! I can see him doing that!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 11:05:16 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 11:07:41 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::
I agree. Finalizing things is also a sign of suicide.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:08:13 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:08:39 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
As soon as I posted that I thought to myself ... "Self, you should have checked to see if jj is in the cage!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I wouldn't dis your man jj ~ "yet" is the operative word.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 11:08:54 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html

I believe the video is from November 26

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/CindyA1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 11:09:59 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

The light in her eyes should make her pupils constrict


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:09:59 AM
No that makes sense Newfie. Someone else posted what I was thinking earlier. It looks like an eviction to me. I see it in rent houses here all the time. The tenants throw their junk/trash willy nilly in the yard for the scavengers and leave the rest for the landlord to clean up. Its kind of like the tenant is having the final word "you put me on the street, now look what you have to clean up" because they know they won't get their deposit back anyways. Make sense?
That does make sense ...
kind of disrespectful to the landlord ... (Oops ... forgot who we were talking about! I can see him doing that!)
Exactly, I don't see Lee being an upstanding tenant. My apartment is trashed right now, I would die for my complex manager to walk in. I blame it all on Casey, George, Cindy and Lee! I would never blame it on the fact that I would rather be with monkeys than vacuum.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:11:27 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

That sounds quite possible. I thought HPD & OCD, coupled with a history of abuse and a family structure that makes lying the normal, polite thing to do--almost the default option, because of the things going on in the family that have to be hidden.

I don't think Cindy helped kill Caylee, but I do think she's an accessory after the fact, because on a certain level she knew the truth and simply refused to consider it possible. But it seems she was already in that habit, long before Caylee was ever born. Probably before Lee or Casey were born. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
Thanks klass ~  I tried looking really hard, right into that big ole pupil, to see if I could see a conscience ... didn't see one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?
I heard him talk about that, but I didn't here about a video.

I didn't see a vidieo either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:12:49 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

The light in her eyes should make her pupils constrict
Right sorry Klaas I knew that. DOH! But they wouldn't constrict if she were on some kind of speed right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:14:20 AM
What was the money for last night, a keg?? 

(Dang, I left too soon......)

It was some bet I think, something about Seasearcher and streaking, can't remember, it's a bit fuzzy!  ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 01, 2009, 11:15:22 AM
Thanks klass ~  I tried looking really hard, right into that big ole pupil, to see if I could see a conscience ... didn't see one.
::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:19:21 AM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!

newfie, that made me laugh outloud......I wonder if malory will wonder if LEE could do a number on the new baby, as casey did to Caylee....I would wonder, and watch him like a hawk, as those genes are not from the LEVI corporation....  mio
I know one thing, if Mallory was my daughter, I would tell her to run as fast as she can, Lee would not be living with me.

Awww, gee, don't you think it's very important for Mallory's baby to know its biological father? LOL!

Seriously, though, Casey did not kill her child for genetic reasons, and Lee is very unlikely to have the same reaction to his child as Casey had to hers. I'd worry about Lee based on the general family profile and that whole possibility of incest issue--I'd want to be sure he didn't do that, before entrusting him with a baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 01, 2009, 11:19:52 AM
Ok..... don't make me whip it out......





(http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/datgrlstef/meow.jpg)


Kitties don't like to be ignored.  ::MonkeyWaa::

OMG!  Still early here in Arizona, coulda have warned me?  And we've talked about this bef re, if you are going to wear that kitty suit you need to iron it!  Or use some of that beauty pageant tape or better yet duct tape!!!

Happy New Year, Another Monkey!

P.S. What was the black stuff your hubbie was sleeping in?  Was it the coal you got him for Christmas?

Karen   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 11:21:23 AM
Got a ?.  I remember reading that LP had a video showing Casey at a hotel on the night of the June 15th or 16th.  Think she was on the phone pacing outside a hotel or something.  Has it ever been shown?  Didn't know if a rumor or not?  Anyone know?

I didn't know there was a video.  Thought she was just seen pacing.  Video will be a bombshell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:22:25 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:25:31 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html


Yes,they are.
And everytime I listen to her all I hear is blah,blah,blah.  ::MonkeyHaHa::Grates on my nerves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:27:08 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.

Isn't that something? Mom and Dad will spend $300 a night at the Ritz and eat expensive dinner and their SON gets evicted! Hmmm seems the Ant's only have one child on their minds right now and it isn't Lee or Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:28:11 AM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own  gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!

ITA. It's awful how hard-hearted people on average have gotten. The same thing has happened to me. Now, in NY or Chicago, they generally assume that if you fall down and call for help, or have a heart attack or a stroke or get sick, anything at all, that you are just faking it, setting them up so you can rob them, so they will walk away very fast and try not to make eye contact. But where I live, it's just not that common for someone to do that--it's not that crowded, etc...and I bet where you live it's that way, too. I think TV has a little to do with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 11:28:23 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor and not fit into a suitcase.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 11:28:32 AM
I hope everyone is waking up to a joyous and Happy New Year 2009.

Thank you so much all for making SM the fantastic community that it is. Scared Monkeys has the uniqueness of combining a front page blog and forum. Believe it or not, SM was one of the first on the internet to ever do it. I guess imitation is the best form of flattery.

What it has done is provide a strong community of facts, people, opinions and sleuthing that is read by so many (5M visitors and 12M + page views). However, there is another element that makes it much more different & special.  It was never more evident of just how special and different SM is as when one of our own, Peaches, passed away. We are about discussing cases, trying to get justice, helping with search in whatever capacity ... however SM is most about being human and doing the right things that show the character of the site and all its members and readers.

Thank you to the mods for all the great work in 2008 and a pre-thanks for 2009. Special thanks to Klaas as well.

May 2009 be filled with the answers and justice that we all look for in so many cases. May the victims of crimes finally get justice. Hopefully we will not find ourselves discussing so many crime and missing persons cases, however, sadly that is usually never the case.

Looking forward to a great 2009 and look forward to all of you being a apart of it.

Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?


Well,Aren't you the naughty Monkey?
And I can see that timeline working.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:28:59 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.
I hope he's going to jail. Maybe my good pudgy cuddly friend Sheriff Beary read my New Years post this morning! I still have pizza in the fridge cuddly Beary!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html

I believe the video is from November 26

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/CindyA1.jpg)

Geez Klaas,Little warning next time.That close up scared the chit out of me.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:30:53 AM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own  gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!

ITA. It's awful how hard-hearted people on average have gotten. The same thing has happened to me. Now, in NY or Chicago, they generally assume that if you fall down and call for help, or have a heart attack or a stroke or get sick, anything at all, that you are just faking it, setting them up so you can rob them, so they will walk away very fast and try not to make eye contact. But where I live, it's just not that common for someone to do that--it's not that crowded, etc...and I bet where you live it's that way, too. I think TV has a little to do with it.

It is awful. The hospital where my office is (I'm not a hospital employee thank God) if a person falls down, has a heart attack or what have you in the parking lot. They call an ambulance to take you to the ER.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 01, 2009, 11:32:07 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::

Most courts have it online - it will be under district court for the county they live in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:32:49 AM
I hope everyone is waking up to a joyous and Happy New Year 2009.

Thank you so much all for making SM the fantastic community that it is. Scared Monkeys has the uniqueness of combining a front page blog and forum. Believe it or not, SM was one of the first on the internet to ever do it. I guess imitation is the best form of flattery.

What it has done is provide a strong community of facts, people, opinions and sleuthing that is read by so many (5M visitors and 12M + page views). However, there is another element that makes it much more different & special.  It was never more evident of just how special and different SM is as when one of our own, Peaches, passed away. We are about discussing cases, trying to get justice, helping with search in whatever capacity ... however SM is most about being human and doing the right things that show the character of the site and all its members and readers.

Thank you to the mods for all the great work in 2008 and a pre-thanks for 2009. Special thanks to Klaas as well.

May 2009 be filled with the answers and justice that we all look for in so many cases. May the victims of crimes finally get justice. Hopefully we will not find ourselves discussing so many crime and missing persons cases, however, sadly that is usually never the case.

Looking forward to a great 2009 and look forward to all of you being a apart of it.

Thanks
Thank you Red for this forum. You and Klaas are wonderful people as are all monkeys. By the way, I like your voice. You don't sound like what I imagined you would sound like. Sorry last O/T from JSM this year! Thanks Again for this Forum.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 11:33:07 AM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!

you are so right boo,,,,Empathy seems to have gotten lost ,,,like many of you know already, my partners mother, Judith Osteen, was kidnapped from her home, dec 16, 2007, and not one local person walked a step to search for her besides us.. I have yet come to terms as how to compute that happening....Judith is still missing.

It seems to me, there is such a separation of tribes,  be it religion,   or demographic location, be it greed or gluttony, be it family heritage, or wealth or lack there of, this world is in need of a reality check.

Our responsibilities are to each other as a whole, and to the earth we live upon.
Our value system needs a rethink.  These  pricey lawyers who come out of the wood work, to preclude all the lies of their clients, do not help our justice system.

WE have weed lawyers who now want immunity to those who would take a water bowl from a dog in the heat of  a Florida summer.  Snatch away with angered intent, lovingly placed flowers for a deceased child, a relative, and disregard the feelings of those who only wanted to show love.

Most of all, we have unguided young mothers, who hate for the wrong reasons, as hate is what they have been taught by their elders. Only a hateful person could lie to themselves, after smelling what they knew all along, was the smell of their own granddaughters decomposed remains.

forgive my long post here, but,, I am compelled to send out messages, that will lead to positive changes for us all. 

I hope your knees have healed, most of all, I hope your heart will be able to heal as well.
I would have put out my hand to you, and carried you to safety.. But, thats just mio, in the woods, having a new years morning fantasy..   




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
Thank you Red!  And thanks to all the mods too!  This cage is full of wonderful monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:34:34 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor   and not fit into a suitcase.
Not if she had just killed her and put her in the suitcase right after. She wouldn't have had rigor then. Would she? I don't know these kinds of gory things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:34:39 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.

Isn't that something? Mom and Dad will spend $300 a night at the Ritz and eat expensive dinner and their SON gets evicted! Hmmm seems the Ant's only have one child on their minds right now and it isn't Lee or Caylee!

He's 25. I think it's pretty standard and normal for parents to ignore the financial needs of their children over twenty, UNLESS there is a grandchild involved.  They don't seem to care half as much about him as they do Casey.

Maybe that's why I relate to Lee--I had the same kind of deal. Since I was an A student they figured I'd land on my feet. (In fact I did not--I ended up homeless twice.) They devoted themselves to the drug addict in the family, which is pretty standard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 11:34:48 AM
Remember the meterreader said there was a tree and a whiteboard hanging on it (pointing to the burial area). Looks like that white board is in Lee's trash now with some kid scribbling on it. Maybe he said white bag... coulda sworn it sounded like a poster and not a white trash bag.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:36:07 AM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::

Most courts have it online - it will be under district court for the county they live in.
Thanks Boyzmom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:38:50 AM
Remember the meterreader said there was a tree and a whiteboard hanging on it (pointing to the burial area). Looks like that white board is in Lee's trash now with some kid scribbling on it. Maybe he said white bag... coulda sworn it sounded like a poster and not a white trash bag.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I think that white poster has the rules to beer pong on it. It says something about beer and pong. I love beer, but I don't want a nasty ping pong ball in my beer! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 01, 2009, 11:40:33 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:41:09 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)



 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor   and not fit into a suitcase.
Not if she had just killed her and put her in the suitcase right after. She wouldn't have had rigor then. Would she? I don't know these kinds of gory things.
I'm not sure Casey would premeditate the disposal that carefully. She would premeditate the murder but I think the disposal is where she screwed up. Luggage would have been impulse reaction, maybe. Unless she put everything that belonged to Caylee in the luggage and disposed of it elsewhere... which might explain the area around the airport. (Casey mentality)
Maybe LP was in the Econ looking for the luggage and it's contents without thinking Caseybrain. Luggage=airport with all it's luggage friends.

I'm ok now with gory now that the child has been found. Caylee is in heaven and ok, her mothers actions are the gory part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:41:44 AM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.

Isn't that something? Mom and Dad will spend $300 a night at the Ritz and eat expensive dinner and their SON gets evicted! Hmmm seems the Ant's only have one child on their minds right now and it isn't Lee or Caylee!

He's 25. I think it's pretty standard and normal for parents to ignore the financial needs of their children over twenty, UNLESS there is a grandchild involved.  They don't seem to care half as much about him as they do Casey.

Maybe that's why I relate to Lee--I had the same kind of deal. Since I was an A student they figured I'd land on my feet. (In fact I did not--I ended up homeless twice.) They devoted themselves to the drug addict in the family, which is pretty standard.
I'm sorry Fuzz. You are right they tend to cater to the ones with more problems. Happened in my family too. Glad to say the drugged crazy brother is normal now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on January 01, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
Thanks, Red

Happy New Year to All!

 :2waver: :salut:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:42:07 AM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!

you are so right boo,,,,Empathy seems to have gotten lost ,,,like many of you know already, my partners mother, Judith Osteen, was kidnapped from her home, dec 16, 2007, and not one local person walked a step to search for her besides us.. I have yet come to terms as how to compute that happening....Judith is still missing.

It seems to me, there is such a separation of tribes,  be it religion,   or demographic location, be it greed or gluttony, be it family heritage, or wealth or lack there of, this world is in need of a reality check.

Our responsibilities are to each other as a whole, and to the earth we live upon.
Our value system needs a rethink.  These  pricey lawyers who come out of the wood work, to preclude all the lies of their clients, do not help our justice system.

WE have weed lawyers who now want immunity to those who would take a water bowl from a dog in the heat of  a Florida summer.  Snatch away with angered intent, lovingly placed flowers for a deceased child, a relative, and disregard the feelings of those who only wanted to show love.

Most of all, we have unguided young mothers, who hate for the wrong reasons, as hate is what they have been taught by their elders. Only a hateful person could lie to themselves, after smelling what they knew all along, was the smell of their own granddaughters decomposed remains.

forgive my long post here, but,, I am compelled to send out messages, that will lead to positive changes for us all. 

I hope your knees have healed, most of all, I hope your heart will be able to heal as well.
I would have put out my hand to you, and carried you to safety.. But, thats just mio, in the woods, having a new years morning fantasy..   

ITA. It's sad that in so many places, people assume that anyone who asks for help or looks like they're having trouble, is lying, trying to take advantage somehow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 11:43:10 AM
Thank you Red!  And thanks to all the mods too!  This cage is full of wonderful monkeys!


Yes,Thanks Red,and all mods.Monkeys are wonderful.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:44:41 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 11:48:01 AM
Thank you Red!  And thanks to all the mods too!  This cage is full of wonderful monkeys!

I second this.... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor   and not fit into a suitcase.
Not if she had just killed her and put her in the suitcase right after. She wouldn't have had rigor then. Would she? I don't know these kinds of gory things.
I'm not sure Casey would premeditate the disposal that carefully. She would premeditate the murder but I think the disposal is where she screwed up. Luggage would have been impulse reaction, maybe. Unless she put everything that belonged to Caylee in the luggage and disposed of it elsewhere... which might explain the area around the airport. (Casey mentality)
Maybe LP was in the Econ looking for the luggage and it's contents without thinking Caseybrain. Luggage=airport with all it's luggage friends.

I'm ok now with gory now that the child has been found. Caylee is in heaven and ok, her mothers actions are the gory part.
You are right JJ, she was probably not that bright in the disposal. I just thought hotel=luggage. Maybe that is why sexy LP was searching the Econ.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 11:49:27 AM
Thanks
Red
Dana
Dugga
Klaas
and all the Mods


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:49:35 AM

 :2waver:
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 11:50:44 AM
Thank-you Red, and all the mods. Happy New Year. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:51:51 AM

OMG!  Still early here in Arizona, coulda have warned me?  And we've talked about this bef re, if you are going to wear that kitty suit you need to iron it!  Or use some of that beauty pageant tape or better yet duct tape!!!

Happy New Year, Another Monkey!

P.S. What was the black stuff your hubbie was sleeping in?  Was it the coal you got him for Christmas?

Karen   ::MonkeyLaugh::

::MonkeyLaugh::  Happy New Year, Da Spark!  ::MonkeyWink::  (My goal for 2009 is some belly stapling, I think.  ::MonkeyTongue:: )   You might be right about that coal.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&ChannelID=77598266

suggestion: turn sound down or off


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: craftycathie on January 01, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 11:54:07 AM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
I didn't realize that was on Lee's myspace. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
KCJackie
Scared Monkey
   Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #64
« Reply #270 on: November 21, 2008, 02:12:57 PM » 

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Part 4 of GA's interview he stated Brian is Lee's roommate - has anyone heard of him before - if so, do we know w last name?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4160.msg552277#msg552277



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:57:40 AM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!

Amen to that sister!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 01, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


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VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.

Happy brand new year Monkey's

Thank you Today,I sure hope this is not just another dog and pony show by LP and defense.
Thanks Trimm for the video links,does anyone know if these are the same videos we have already seen before I try and hold my breath and go watch them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 11:59:07 AM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!
I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 01, 2009, 12:00:26 PM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::
More doubt. Now if LE wants evidence from fibers they've dragged in another party. Could be Lee is covering his trail, protecting his girlfriend and preparing for the trial or arrest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 01, 2009, 12:02:46 PM
Happy New Year fellow Monkeys!

Went out last night for short time. The place was so dead and the band so bad that my husband was even bored. I kept telling myself it is not that you are getting older but quite yawning....not polite to band. Anyway....starting thinking about this case. Can't get away from it.

I was thinking now that the PI's have thrown in another turn if maybe if that is authentized (date, location) if that will defense try to discredit anything found at location if someone had been in there such as PI's, etc.

My thought is really that it proves JB, A's knew where she was and they were sent in there. All the people involved knew they were keeping up the nanny story to blame her and they knew the longer that body was in the elements it would be more likely they would be scattered and cause of death would be a problem.

I think they are all scums if they knew this stuff, led on with false statements, solicited funds for a pretense of a live child missing, etc but most of all leaving that babies remains out there to save the one who took her life. Well they might have done it too well because now if it was an accident(doubt) there is no turning back and it can't be proven. I think Dr Perper said it all on NG th other night..that child was alive when the tape was placed on her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:04:53 PM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::
Probably the carpets were cleaned just in case LE decides to get a search warrant on this house now that Lee is out. I still think eviction, maybe not. But that's what that picture looks like. How did Zoe bring in the New Year last night?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!
I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::
Well if you stop and think about it. Caylee was the only hold on Cindy that Casey had. The money, the home , the rules everything came from Cindy, She had been told by Cindy many times just what a deadbeat she was and how crazy she was but Casey being Caylees Mother was the only thing she had on her side and the only weapon she had against Cindy, so in her sick mind she knew that this fact was the ace in the hole and the only way to pay Cindy back........and she did in the worst way possible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
  ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh my! Where did you find that Today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:09:58 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!
I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::
Well if you stop and think about it. Caylee was the only hold on Cindy that Casey had. The money, the home , the rules everything came from Cindy, She had been told by Cindy many times just what a deadbeat she was and how crazy she was but Casey being Caylees Mother was the only thing she had on her side and the only weapon she had against Cindy, so in her sick mind she knew that this fact was the ace in the hole and the only way to pay Cindy back........and she did in the worst way possible!
YEP, Casey did say maybe she is a spiteful bit*h.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 12:11:41 PM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::
Probably the carpets were cleaned just in case LE decides to get a search warrant on this house now that Lee is out. I still think eviction, maybe not. But that's what that picture looks like. How did Zoe bring in the New Year last night?
You could be right, you would also think LE should have searched his house and yard early on. She was snoring, which I'm thankful for, because people were popping those poppers, and she is terrified of loud noises, we think she had been shot at, she was abused when we got her from the shelter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 12:11:51 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 12:14:18 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!
I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::
Well if you stop and think about it. Caylee was the only hold on Cindy that Casey had. The money, the home , the rules everything came from Cindy, She had been told by Cindy many times just what a deadbeat she was and how crazy she was but Casey being Caylees Mother was the only thing she had on her side and the only weapon she had against Cindy, so in her sick mind she knew that this fact was the ace in the hole and the only way to pay Cindy back........and she did in the worst way possible!
Yes, what I am curious about is how much abuse, if any went on in that house, I'm sure Baez will use this for Casey's defense, I see no other choice, but go with abuse, or some mental issues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:15:52 PM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::
Probably the carpets were cleaned just in case LE decides to get a search warrant on this house now that Lee is out. I still think eviction, maybe not. But that's what that picture looks like. How did Zoe bring in the New Year last night?
You could be right, you would also think LE should have searched his house and yard early on. She was snoring, which I'm thankful for, because people were popping those poppers, and she is terrified of loud noises, we think she had been shot at, she was abused when we got her from the shelter.
LE couldn't search without a warrant and they would have to show a judge probable cause. Now that he possibly could be arrested, LE could get a warrant to search. At least I think that is how it works. LE has to show a valid reason to a judge to get the warrant. I think he knows he is going down and wants the carpets cleaned for a reason. I don't see Lee being the type of person to clean carpets for the new tenants. He is hiding something. Sorry about Zoe and loud noises. Joe is afraid of them too. Guns were being shot off here last night so he got a dose of benadryl before midnight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 12:15:56 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


So someone took it from Lee's trash and carried it to George and Cindy's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 12:18:13 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
[/quote]
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:19:16 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 12:19:32 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 12:21:14 PM
Newly Realeased Full Version...Video Jail Interviews.
Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html

Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206288/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html  
__________________

GM and Happy New Year

Trimm.. how do you do find these videos on that wftv site?  I have tried every which way I know how and can't figure it out.

The PT. 2 of 2 of Georges visit is the same as PT 1 is the real reason I am asking.

Thanks for posting these.  Bev


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


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VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.

Happy brand new year Monkey's

Thank you Today,I sure hope this is not just another dog and pony show by LP and defense.
Thanks Trimm for the video links,does anyone know if these are the same videos we have already seen before I try and hold my breath and go watch them?


Supposed to be full version on video.Got a sick Grandson,so I haven't got to Check to them all out yet. May the force be with you.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!
I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::
Well if you stop and think about it. Caylee was the only hold on Cindy that Casey had. The money, the home , the rules everything came from Cindy, She had been told by Cindy many times just what a deadbeat she was and how crazy she was but Casey being Caylees Mother was the only thing she had on her side and the only weapon she had against Cindy, so in her sick mind she knew that this fact was the ace in the hole and the only way to pay Cindy back........and she did in the worst way possible!
Yes, what I am curious about is how much abuse, if any went on in that house, I'm sure Baez will use this for Casey's defense, I see no other choice, but go with abuse, or some mental issues.
Oh you can bet Baez will touch down on this, but I dont think its gonna have too much of an impact on the finall out come, Casey knew what she was doing and murdering your own child isno way to get back at controlling parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:23:31 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   
Hi Wyks, thanks for posting that. I think out of all of them Mrs Plesea is the most sane one. She genuinely seems to care about Cindy, Caylee, and Rick, but I think she could not give a rat's behind about Casey. Maybe that is because of what Casey did to her and her husband, or it could be a lifelong thing. Some grandparents love one grandchild, but despise the other from day one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 12:26:16 PM
KCJackie
Scared Monkey
   Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #64
« Reply #270 on: November 21, 2008, 02:12:57 PM » 

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Part 4 of GA's interview he stated Brian is Lee's roommate - has anyone heard of him before - if so, do we know w last name?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4160.msg552277#msg552277



From Lee's videos it looks like Brian's last name might be Luv


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:27:12 PM
Newly Realeased Full Version...Video Jail Interviews.
Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html

Lee Anthony July 28 morning/ part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206288/index.html

Cindy and George July 30 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html

George Anthony Aug 3 part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html  
__________________

GM and Happy New Year

Trimm.. how do you do find these videos on that wftv site?  I have tried every which way I know how and can't figure it out.

The PT. 2 of 2 of Georges visit is the same as PT 1 is the real reason I am asking.

Thanks for posting these.  Bev


I was reading over at WS this morning and saw them.I haven't listen to them yet.I'll probably have to wait til later.
I was trying to fing anything to help keep us on topic.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
That is funny as hell!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:28:54 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
That is funny as hell!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:29:36 PM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


The tape around the guys head made me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


The tape around the guys head made me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Me too. Especially when someone was saying something about it getting stuck to his hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/


Thanks.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:33:55 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I wonder why Lee didn't tear up that poster? Oh I forget, he CAN'T!! One poster already got the best of him, he probably couldn't bend this scary one either  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 01, 2009, 12:34:22 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)
[/quote]

this is an OMG  picture for sure.....this is wild.. ::MonkeyConfused::....time to go and cook the ribs now, yall have a great day...dig deep.. I love all the clues...If I ever go missing, I want the SCARED MONKEYS to be on the hunt for me and on my side.   This is a most mind filling site that I enjoy being a part of.. Happy New Year to all.....mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  Oh my.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 12:38:01 PM

Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Alright, so let's go back in time a little and see just how many parents/grandparents of previously missing or murdered children have asked for immunity.  I'd like to know just how common this is.

It's quite obvious to most that this isn't a case of their attorney acting with "an abundance of caution".  They done wrong, and they're going down!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:38:52 PM
Is that picture supposed to be Lee? That eyebrow on the left almost looks like a caterpillar.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:40:06 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I wonder why Lee didn't tear up that poster? Oh I forget, he CAN'T!! One poster already got the best of him, he probably couldn't bend this scary one either  ::MonkeyHaHa::


OMG  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:40:16 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I wonder why Lee didn't tear up that poster? Oh I forget, he CAN'T!! One poster already got the best of him, he probably couldn't bend this scary one either  ::MonkeyHaHa::
And isnt Lee a little old to be  drawing these kinds of little sillly pictures, This looks like something my Son and his friends use to draw on their notebooks and stuff when they were in high school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:40:39 PM
Is that picture supposed to be Lee? That eyebrow on the left almost looks like a caterpillar.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
And isnt Lee a little old to be  drawing these kinds of little sillly pictures, This looks like something my Son and his friends use to draw on their notebooks and stuff when they were in high school.

I agree... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:43:16 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I wonder why Lee didn't tear up that poster? Oh I forget, he CAN'T!! One poster already got the best of him, he probably couldn't bend this scary one either  ::MonkeyHaHa::
And isnt Lee a little old to be  drawing these kinds of little sillly pictures, This looks like something my Son and his friends use to draw on their notebooks and stuff when they were in high school.
HH, I think Lee still has the mentality of a little boy. In all seriousness. He buys Star War's action figures with funds from his missing niece's charity. That to me tells me sumptin aint right with the boy.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 12:49:09 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 12:49:22 PM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I have to wait til the written transcripts come out.   ::MonkeyWaa::  Santa didn't bring me speakers for my comp.  Or a sound card, for that matter.  I must have been a very naughty monkey this past year.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif) 

It just seems to me that if they were going to all the trouble of releasing tapes and videos, they would not be edited first.  What's the sense in releasing them if they take out all the details that matter?  If something had been on those they needed for the trial, then why not just say that, or say nothing, but hold it back.  Releasing stuff after it's been edited is, IMO, very misleading, giving a skewed version to the public.  I'm talking details, not private info etc, which ought to edited, yes.  Releasing only the bare essentials, doesn't it just defeat the whole purpose of the sunshine laws in that state?   Or do I have the wrong idea about what those laws mean?  Don't they know that we monkeys are a very curious lot?  pffffffft   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Attorney on FOX just said

It's despicable for a grandparent to say we will not cooperate with you (LE) unless you give us immunity.  You would help LE if you were trying to find the killer.

How True!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
I wish some clever monkey would make the sign have a unibrow!

What would be funny is if it's a monkey who took that sign and moved it over to their house.  Let's see how long it takes for the uni-brow to show up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I wonder why Lee didn't tear up that poster? Oh I forget, he CAN'T!! One poster already got the best of him, he probably couldn't bend this scary one either  ::MonkeyHaHa::
And isnt Lee a little old to be  drawing these kinds of little sillly pictures, This looks like something my Son and his friends use to draw on their notebooks and stuff when they were in high school.
HH, I think Lee still has the mentality of a little boy. In all seriousness. He buys Star War's action figures with funds from his missing niece's charity. That to me tells me sumptin aint right with the boy.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
aint that the truth, but then sumptin aint right with this entire family and I think they are all gonna end up behind bars or at least on probation before this is over and done with!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.


Amen Red.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I have to wait til the written transcripts come out.   ::MonkeyWaa::  Santa didn't bring me speakers for my comp.  Or a sound card, for that matter.  I must have been a very naughty monkey this past year.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif) 

It just seems to me that if they were going to all the trouble of releasing tapes and videos, they would not be edited first.  What's the sense in releasing them if they take out all the details that matter?  If something had been on those they needed for the trial, then why not just say that, or say nothing, but hold it back.  Releasing stuff after it's been edited is, IMO, very misleading, giving a skewed version to the public.  I'm talking details, not private info etc, which ought to edited, yes.  Releasing only the bare essentials, doesn't it just defeat the whole purpose of the sunshine laws in that state?   Or do I have the wrong idea about what those laws mean?  Don't they know that we monkeys are a very curious lot?  pffffffft   ::MonkeyWink::

You were a good monkey Wyks, if I had a sound card I would FedEx you one today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 01, 2009, 12:54:33 PM
I read somewhere else that LEE was moving .. to where .. well I guess I will have to keep reading ..
Someone called LE about Lee's junk in the driveway ... ppl in Orlando are on Lee and are keeping track of him ..
 hey the Rose Parade is on ... beautiful .. and
Happy New Year. 
[/color]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 12:56:10 PM
I read somewhere else that LEE was moving .. to where .. well I guess I will have to keep reading ..
Someone called LE about Lee's junk in the driveway ... ppl in Orlando are on Lee and are keeping track of him ..
 hey the Rose Parade is on ... beautiful .. and
Happy New Year. 
[/color]
Hey KatGram, did you see the poster that was in Lee's junk pile. Some funny person grabbed it and hauled it to CinCin's front yard!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.





And that says it all!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:57:16 PM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I have to wait til the written transcripts come out.   ::MonkeyWaa::  Santa didn't bring me speakers for my comp.  Or a sound card, for that matter.  I must have been a very naughty monkey this past year.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif) 

It just seems to me that if they were going to all the trouble of releasing tapes and videos, they would not be edited first.  What's the sense in releasing them if they take out all the details that matter?  If something had been on those they needed for the trial, then why not just say that, or say nothing, but hold it back.  Releasing stuff after it's been edited is, IMO, very misleading, giving a skewed version to the public.  I'm talking details, not private info etc, which ought to edited, yes.  Releasing only the bare essentials, doesn't it just defeat the whole purpose of the sunshine laws in that state?   Or do I have the wrong idea about what those laws mean?  Don't they know that we monkeys are a very curious lot?  pffffffft   ::MonkeyWink::



 :smt056  Bad Santa.
I don't know why they did this either.
And yes,we are a curious bunch of monkeys.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
Attorney on FOX just said

It's despicable for a grandparent to say we will not cooperate with you (LE) unless you give us immunity.  You would help LE if you were trying to find the killer.

How True!

I couldn't live with myself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
There is a special place in hell for people that would not protect a child.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
I read somewhere else that LEE was moving .. to where .. well I guess I will have to keep reading ..
Someone called LE about Lee's junk in the driveway ... ppl in Orlando are on Lee and are keeping track of him ..
 hey the Rose Parade is on ... beautiful .. and
Happy New Year. 
[/color]


I think it was said earlier that he and Mallory moved in with her parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 01, 2009, 01:01:23 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.



Red great response.  I hope Greta does read it and does comment.  But you know she probably reads here anyway.  You backed up everything you said with the proof to put in her face.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:02:33 PM
Just stopping by again to say hi to all my Monkey Friends! Happy New Years too!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm way behind, anything "new" or interesting reported today? It looks like LA moved out? Anyone know when he moved out, or where he went to? Better question, why did he move out? Fill me in Monkeys with anything new since yesterday, and TIA!!

You Monkeys are the nicest Monkeys I ever met!! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley4/cute/58.gif)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
Just stopping by again to say hi to all my Monkey Friends! Happy New Years too!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm way behind, anything "new" or interesting reported today? It looks like LA moved out? Anyone know when he moved out, or where he went to? Better question, why did he move out? Fill me in Monkeys with anything new since yesterday, and TIA!!

You Monkeys are the nicest Monkeys I ever met!! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley4/cute/58.gif)

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I don't know why he moved, maybe the lease was up, or he could not afford the rent, rumor has it he moved in with Mallory's parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 01:04:55 PM

you are so right boo,,,,Empathy seems to have gotten lost ,,,like many of you know already, my partners mother, Judith Osteen, was kidnapped from her home, dec 16, 2007, and not one local person walked a step to search for her besides us.. I have yet come to terms as how to compute that happening....Judith is still missing.

It seems to me, there is such a separation of tribes,  be it religion,   or demographic location, be it greed or gluttony, be it family heritage, or wealth or lack there of, this world is in need of a reality check.

Our responsibilities are to each other as a whole, and to the earth we live upon.
Our value system needs a rethink.  These  pricey lawyers who come out of the wood work, to preclude all the lies of their clients, do not help our justice system
.

WE have weed lawyers who now want immunity to those who would take a water bowl from a dog in the heat of  a Florida summer.  Snatch away with angered intent, lovingly placed flowers for a deceased child, a relative, and disregard the feelings of those who only wanted to show love.

Most of all, we have unguided young mothers, who hate for the wrong reasons, as hate is what they have been taught by their elders. Only a hateful person could lie to themselves, after smelling what they knew all along, was the smell of their own granddaughters decomposed remains.

forgive my long post here, but,, I am compelled to send out messages, that will lead to positive changes for us all. 

I hope your knees have healed, most of all, I hope your heart will be able to heal as well.
I would have put out my hand to you, and carried you to safety.. But, thats just mio, in the woods, having a new years morning fantasy..   


What a fantastic post, Mioyshi.  I'm giving it a standing ovation.  We were just discussing this very thing the other day at work - how it is so sad that we've become a "me me me" society instead of a "WE" society.  We are so quick to let our differences separate us to the point that we can become enemies, yet if we'd stop and look at our similarities, they far outweigh them.  We are human and we all have the same basic needs.

If people would stop automatically asking, "what's in it for me", the world would be a much different place.  I hope and pray that people will soon begin to realize this, because the only way to change it is to start with ourselves and lead by example.   Not a bad idea for a New Year's resolution, is it??      ::MonkeyDance::

If the "every man for himself" mentality continues to be prevalent, I'm convinced it will be our downfall in the end.   That thought is heartbreaking and extremely scary.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
Just stopping by again to say hi to all my Monkey Friends! Happy New Years too!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm way behind, anything "new" or interesting reported today? It looks like LA moved out? Anyone know when he moved out, or where he went to? Better question, why did he move out? Fill me in Monkeys with anything new since yesterday, and TIA!!

You Monkeys are the nicest Monkeys I ever met!! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley4/cute/58.gif)

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Now that LE is on his azzzzz he can't continue to use the Caylee fund for his rent! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 01:07:07 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.





And that says it all!!


Yes it does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
I read somewhere else that LEE was moving .. to where .. well I guess I will have to keep reading ..
Someone called LE about Lee's junk in the driveway ... ppl in Orlando are on Lee and are keeping track of him ..
 hey the Rose Parade is on ... beautiful .. and
Happy New Year. 
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::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 01:11:36 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


Thanks for that link. There is even other belongings of Lees up against the garage, a picture and a dart board.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 01:12:04 PM
Good morning, all!  I hope everyone's day is getting off to a good start.  Mine is, especially after hearing that Cindy supposedly threatened to beat the shit out of Casey.  If only it had done any good.

As much as I wish nothing had ever happened to Caylee, I can't imagine how much she would have suffered for the next 15-16 years of her life.  I think that even if physical abuse had not been an issue prior to her murder, the mental abuse alone would have been enough to make her life a living hell. She is in a much safer place now and feels no more pain.

I agree flossy!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 01:13:52 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


Thanks for that link. There is even other belongings of Lees up against the garage, a picture and a dart board.
hey rose............did u get mail from me yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 01:14:25 PM
Just stopping by again to say hi to all my Monkey Friends! Happy New Years too!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'm way behind, anything "new" or interesting reported today? It looks like LA moved out? Anyone know when he moved out, or where he went to? Better question, why did he move out? Fill me in Monkeys with anything new since yesterday, and TIA!!

You Monkeys are the nicest Monkeys I ever met!! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley4/cute/58.gif)

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Now that LE is on his azzzzz he can't continue to use the Caylee fund for his rent! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I do find it interesting that he would not move back in with his parent's!Very telling...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 01, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
Greta never ceases to amaze me. Guess she wants that exclusive interview !
I am tired of the bs in this case, the talking heads talking out of their collective azzes and Lenny talking out of his hat. People on the blogs are smater than them and we can see what is going on here, everyone jumping on the various bandwagons for their own purposes. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Did I hear that Lenny says he knew the remains weren't in Blanchard Park ? I am not sure, been in and out .. IF so, he encouraged those balck water divers to take a risk, eh ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 01:16:36 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!

newfie, that made me laugh outloud......I wonder if malory will wonder if LEE could do a number on the new baby, as casey did to Caylee....I would wonder, and watch him like a hawk, as those genes are not from the LEVI corporation....  mio

ahahaha!  good one, mio!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
Greta never ceases to amaze me. Guess she wants that exclusive interview !
I am tired of the bs in this case, the talking heads talking out of their collective azzes and Lenny talking out of his hat. People on the blogs are smater than them and we can see what is going on here, everyone jumping on the various bandwagons for their own purposes. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Did I hear that Lenny says he knew the remains weren't in Blanchard Park ? I am not sure, been in and out .. IF so, he encouraged those balck water divers to take a risk, eh ?


I've also been so annoyed at the people who want to jump in every now and then and they don't even seem to have a grip on any of what has gone on.   I think I'd keep my mouth shut until I did have all of the known facts before I'd take the risk of making it look like I was defending people whose actions have been deplorable at best.

The almighty dollar sure is powerful, isn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Personally, based on his history, I wouldn't let Henry Lee anywhere near this case!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 01:22:53 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


Thanks for that link. There is even other belongings of Lees up against the garage, a picture and a dart board.
hey rose............did u get mail from me yet?
When I signed up here, I used my husband's email account, I have no email account. The other day when you asked me to have a mod give you my email addy, I decided it was about time to have my own, my husband set it up. I think Klass gave you my old one which goes to my husband's work. Please ask one of the mods for my addy, my husband changed it for me on this forum. Thanks, looking forward to hear from you. I'm not smart  when it comes to these thing, but now everything was fixed thanks to my husband. Sorry o/t.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 01:25:33 PM
Hi Monkeys and Happy New Year to all!

I'm lagging behind, but Wyks, I appreciated your post on Cindy's family dynamics.  I too have wondered about this for some time but didn't want to bring up negative info on her uninvolved family members.  You handled this well!

I do think we're products of our environments to a certain extent, but I know wonderful people with horrible upbringings.  I also know people with great, healthy childhoods who didn't turn out so great.  It's just hard to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 01:26:38 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Personally, based on his history, I wouldn't let Henry Lee anywhere near this case!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh, I agree, I don't trust him, it just seemed weird, he examines the car, and next day there is a video being done close to Caylee's remains. I've been thinking, could the meter man have overheard something at the Anthony's house and that is why he stumbled upon Caylee's remains when he did? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 01:34:06 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Personally, based on his history, I wouldn't let Henry Lee anywhere near this case!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh, I agree, I don't trust him, it just seemed weird, he examines the car, and next day there is a video being done close to Caylee's remains. I've been thinking, could the meter man have overheard something at the Anthony's house and that is why he stumbled upon Caylee's remains when he did? ::MonkeyEek::


Something had sent him to the area in August.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TxLady2 on January 01, 2009, 01:35:36 PM

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

I have to say that does not look like someone that "moved out" - to me it looks like an eviction. We pile the tenants stuff up at the end of drive like that because we have to give them a chance to retrieve it. Then the scavengers come and then the trash guys take the rest.

It does look like an eviction. That thing on the left looks a lot like a flatscreen TV. People don't usually leave those behind. I wonder where he'll go.

I read on WS that he had the carpets steam-cleaned, and the carpet cleaner thought it looked like it had already been cleaned. I doubt that he would hire someone to steam clean carpets if he was evicted. If it was a rental house, he would have to clean everything in order to get a deposit back.
This picture just looks like ordinary trash to me. Nothing unusual about it. I've moved about a hundred times in my life, and we always have loads of trash to throw away and then I go back and clean everthing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 01:38:41 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!

Morning Klaas and all the Monkeys, and Happy New Year to everyone! That is super interesting about the date when Nejame decided he wanted to disassociate himself from the A's. VERY interesting IMO.

Hi Jody, and the same to you! 

Yes, considering the date, am thinking that Nejame got the heck out of dodge, so to speak.  In light of what we now know, in one sense, that was him making a very good move.  In another sense tho, if he really was as ethical as he appears to be by removing himself from the fray, seems that he *coulda shoulda* gone the whole route and reported to LE what was going on.  On the other hand, maybe he did and we just aren't aware of that yet.   ::MonkeyConfused::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 01:41:30 PM
Well, well, well.  Have a sick child and you show your true colors.   ::MonkeyShocked::
Seamen always need a vessel to squeeze their ships into, don't they?   ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy New Year!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 01:45:25 PM

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::

Awwwww  :smt058  I'm sorry that happened, SS.  What a cute monkey you are. 

What is going on here??? ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 01:47:42 PM
Well, well, well.  Have a sick child and you show your true colors.   ::MonkeyShocked::
Seamen always need a vessel to squeeze their ships into, don't they?   ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy New Year!!!



 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 01:47:46 PM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Morning Boo!  You were cracking me up last night!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  My doxie has a talking ball, the 'babble ball'.  It talks even when not in motion, with no one near it!  We'll be having a quiet moment and all of a sudden, from out of nowhere, we hear a voice saying, "La la la la la".. "Don't do that, puppy!"   ::MonkeyHaHa::

It makes me sick that the A's would even *think* of asking for immunity after all this mess.   ::MonkeyEek::  I will be sicker yet if they actually get immunity!    ::MonkeyShocked::  And all I can think of is... immunity in exchange for what?  What is so awful that they know (or have done) that would necessitate immunity?  And if there is something so awful, then IMO, they need to go down for it and face the charges, right along with Casey.  Who do these people think they are anyway?  The nerve they have!!! 

Okies.. thanks.. I feel better now.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TxLady2 on January 01, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Greta is telling it like it is... too many people jump to conclusions that everything has a sinister meaning when it doesn't. If you listen to her, she makes a lot of sense. I would take her word over NG's any time when it comes to the law!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 01, 2009, 01:52:29 PM
I can't get any of the videos on wftv to work.  Is it because I have dail-up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 01:56:17 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Greta is telling it like it is... too many people jump to conclusions that everything has a sinister meaning when it doesn't. If you listen to her, she makes a lot of sense. I would take her word over NG's any time when it comes to the law!



Greta is trying to get another exclusive interview. Loving gp's don't behave the way the ants have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 02:03:51 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!

I think I can read between the lines here.  

Also, now LE can go "search, dig up, inspect, blue light, luminol, cadaver dog it, and whatever they need to without a search warrant if they get the landlord's permission now.

Hope somebody is watching that house for us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
indeed, indeed, and ya;ll might monkey slap my paws, but, me hearing lp, saying he knew, this, and he knew that, after the fact, makes me wanna slap him...just like those wasted fiasco energies in blanchard park....

 then meter reader saying, he knew this, and he knew that, also after the fact... yet, HE is the only person I knew, that called tip line, to get rewards...his now lawyer says he should receive..
 well, all it tells me, is that they ALL left this innocent baby, out in the swamp, with no regard to anything but their own  gluttonous benefits...   IT IS sick, selfish, and unfathomable to me, yet, I read it every day...

As one who walked many miles, searching for Caylee, I know had I saw ANYTHING, I felt could have been her, I would have had to go and make it known....not for the money, but, because it is the right thing to do.

somewhere in proverbs it reads, ( and I am native, not normal to Christian quotes) but, something like,
IT is better to put a knife to your own throat than to give into gluttony...

I would call it all ill gotten gains....and am ashamed for them all....mio

It's called honor, it's called integrity, it's called doing the right thing no matter what. Sadly, in today's world, people will stop and think: How is this going to hurt me? How is this going to benefit me? Should I bother to get involved? Wait, stop, let me get my video camera out so I can sell this on ebay! before they even consider helping another human being!

It's disgusting how some people act. Last year I fell on a patch of ice on both my knees, really hurt them bad. I was shocked when I couldn't get up. I was shocked even more when 3 people walked by and ignored my cries for help! It was right in front of a store and they said no, I'll get someone else. It was only when a car pulled up next to me that the guy jumped out to help. I was appalled at the lack of empathy people have, yet they have their own hands out when things don't go their way. It's called Karma baby, and it's a bitch!!

I agree with both of you!! 

We are experiencing the 'numbing' of society.  Lots of reasons for why folks are numbing out.  It does concern me that what seems to have been an instinct in humans, (the split decision to help another in need), seems to no longer be an instinct at all.  And our instincts, isn't that part of what seperates us humans from the animal world?  Have always thought it funny (odd) that in many folks our first reaction, instinct, in seeing someone slip, trip, fall or in someway have an accident, is to run over and say, 'omg are you ok?'  the person has just crashed their car into a tree, for example.  likely not gonna be ok.  and yet.. it's our instinct to rush over and find out.  I've done that in a car accident that happened right in front of me.  It was afterwards, when I thought, WTF did I ask them that for?  lol  Still would rather have these instincts in humans, whatever quirky thing we might say or do along with them.. than the numbing effect that seems so widespread these days.  How awful it must feel to be hurting, yet able to see folks seeing that and walking on by.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 02:04:36 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 02:09:18 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!

I think I can read between the lines here.  

Also, now LE can go "search, dig up, inspect, blue light, luminol, cadaver dog it, and whatever they need to without a search warrant if they get the landlord's permission now.

Hope somebody is watching that house for us.


Happy New Year Bluesy.  ::MonkeyDance::
I hope they are watching that house too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 02:13:15 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks and Happy New Year Klaas.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Well, well, well.  Have a sick child and you show your true colors.   ::MonkeyShocked::
Seamen always need a vessel to squeeze their ships into, don't they?   ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy New Year!!!



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I had to say something to try and lure you out of the woodwork ! I thought I was abandoned, yet again, by another monkey friend  ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm sorry to hear about your sick child...and your water heater...but I'm glad your OK and hoped you had a nice holiday  ::MonkeyWink::

Happy New Year Bearly!!!! .. she'll be gone by the time I post this...just watch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 02:16:38 PM

I'm sorry...not ignoring you...I tried to reply (took 10-15min on topic even) to one of your earlier posts...I added a monkey to it after spell check and poof...
it all disappeared.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was so mad I had to go make more coffee  ::MonkeyTongue::

Awwwww  :smt058  I'm sorry that happened, SS.  What a cute monkey you are. 

What is going on here??? ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I dunno...I just seem to attract the kitty cats  ::MonkeyWink:: See what happens when you're not around to protect me..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 02:18:16 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Please do..I get embarrassed buying them at the store  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:22:56 PM
Does anyone remember the name of the store Casey shopped at with Amy's checks, where the receipt was not released with the other receipts? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 02:24:53 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 02:25:04 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Date is 12/29 but this is new to me.  Larger article than the NE dated 1/5/09

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/NE122908a.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ne122908b.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ne122908c.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ne122908d.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 02:28:21 PM
Thanks for the video links trimm.  I'm not sure I can listen to them today either ... just something wrong with starting out 2009 being frustrated and angry.

Morning Boo!  I didn't expect to see you up and about so early!

Morning all Monkeys I missed entering the cage ~ (I had to see if a hot shower would help me feel better!)  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yeah, my cat woke me up playing with a talking ball. Oh well, I needed hot coffee anyway. I can't believe these Anthonys, I'm leaning toward no immunity they make me sick!

Morning Boo!  You were cracking me up last night!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  My doxie has a talking ball, the 'babble ball'.  It talks even when not in motion, with no one near it!  We'll be having a quiet moment and all of a sudden, from out of nowhere, we hear a voice saying, "La la la la la".. "Don't do that, puppy!"   ::MonkeyHaHa::

It makes me sick that the A's would even *think* of asking for immunity after all this mess.   ::MonkeyEek::  I will be sicker yet if they actually get immunity!    ::MonkeyShocked::  And all I can think of is... immunity in exchange for what?  What is so awful that they know (or have done) that would necessitate immunity?  And if there is something so awful, then IMO, they need to go down for it and face the charges, right along with Casey.  Who do these people think they are anyway?  The nerve they have!!! 

Okies.. thanks.. I feel better now.   ::MonkeyCool::


Yep, the Babble ball, that's what my dog got for Christmas from his Auntie, except the cats found it and thinks it hilarious to bat it around while Mommy is trying to sleep!! 
As for the immunity, at this point I really think LE has a firm grip on what they need and what they don't need. As much at I would hate to see any Anthony guilty of a cover up, I have faith in LE to do the right thing by Caylee. They are the only ones in this that have put her first and foremost of their intense work!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
Thank-you for posting that pic Klass, Lee doesn't even have the decency to bag up his garbage, where I live the trash men would not pick that mess up.
I wonder if they got evicted? Is there any way that an eviction is public record? TIA JSM
Good question, I don't know, but I bet a smart monkey here does.
I know, I know ~ I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill ... but

If he really thinks he may be charged soon ... he'd want to get the Mallster safely ensconced back at home with mom & pop ... and he sure wouldn't want to sign another lease ...

I know ... mole hill meet mountain ... But I'm Just Sayin!   ::MonkeyCool::
No that makes sense Newfie. Someone else posted what I was thinking earlier. It looks like an eviction to me. I see it in rent houses here all the time. The tenants throw their junk/trash willy nilly in the yard for the scavengers and leave the rest for the landlord to clean up. Its kind of like the tenant is having the final word "you put me on the street, now look what you have to clean up" because they know they won't get their deposit back anyways. Make sense?

From what I read over at WS about this, (and it could be a rumor, dunno), either Lee or the apt. manager hired a cleaner to do the carpets and cleaning job.  Sure hope that LE got in there first, cuz it's rumored (ok, a psychic feels) that there is evidence in that place that LE needs to have a look at.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


Thanks for that link. There is even other belongings of Lees up against the garage, a picture and a dart board.



I see that he also had his hoses cocked and loaded.  He learned that from his Dad I suppose.  LOL



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:31:55 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/


Thanks for that link. There is even other belongings of Lees up against the garage, a picture and a dart board.



I see that he also had his hoses cocked and loaded.  He learned that from his Dad I suppose.  LOL


I laughed when I saw those hoses. Klaas thanks for posting the NE article. Now we have a new name Bailey Dickens and his mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:36:24 PM
Thank you Red!  And thanks to all the mods too!  This cage is full of wonderful monkeys!

It sure is Newfie, and that includes YOU as well!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:38:26 PM
Sea Searcher... I thought that yellow stuff was insulation, but the closer I'm looking it almost looks like a cellophane type material. Sure looks like a lot of junk, I think I even see speakers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor   and not fit into a suitcase.
Not if she had just killed her and put her in the suitcase right after. She wouldn't have had rigor then. Would she? I don't know these kinds of gory things.

Am trying to remember what they said about the findings of decomp in the trunk.  Wasn't it something about them knowing from that what position Caylee had been in?  Not sure if they said then or if it was speculation that she was curled up in the fetal position.  Sorry for that visual.   ::MonkeyWaa::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:41:45 PM
It's an LPism ... (new word I just coined ... gonna start using it ... definition:  something LP has said, but we have no legitimate proof of yet).
Oh I have LP-o-isms all the time.  ::MonkeyWink::
Key word: yet. He's good at baiting. Very skilled. Bounty hunting experience.

If Casey stayed at a hotel that night she could have had Caylee out of the car and alone. How does this fit the timeline?
Fight on 15th, she leaves. On the phone with Tony who doesn't want the kid to stay at his place leaving Casey homeless unless she disposes of the child. Caylee is probably fussy. Could Casey have put the lifeless body in the first plastic bag in the motel and into the trunk like she was loading luggage? Then she goes about adding bags of groceries and other things to the trunk to conceal? Stays with Tony without Casey on the 16th?
Yep luggage. Where is the JC Penney's receipt Cindy? Did she buy a suitcase and take it to the hotel? Hmmm
Oh good one. Didn't even think about that. And Caylee would have had rigor   and not fit into a suitcase.
Not if she had just killed her and put her in the suitcase right after. She wouldn't have had rigor then. Would she? I don't know these kinds of gory things.

Am trying to remember what they said about the findings of decomp in the trunk.  Wasn't it something about them knowing from that what position Caylee had been in?  Not sure if they said then or if it was speculation that she was curled up in the fetal position.  Sorry for that visual.   ::MonkeyWaa::
 
I'm not sure about the fetal position, but I do remember they could tell the position Caylee was laying in, inside the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 02:43:53 PM
Thank you Red!  And thanks to all the mods too!  This cage is full of wonderful monkeys!

It sure is Newfie, and that includes YOU as well!   ::MonkeyWink::

Aw ... thanks Wyks.

Thanks for posting the Enquirer klaas - Kiomarie I'm not sure about ... but probably just because she's making $ off this like everyone else involved.

I'm off to the airport to pick up my dear 21-year-old son.  Vacation is over ... FOR BOTH OF US!   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Argh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
I agree with both of you!! 

We are experiencing the 'numbing' of society.  Lots of reasons for why folks are numbing out.  It does concern me that what seems to have been an instinct in humans, (the split decision to help another in need), seems to no longer be an instinct at all.  And our instincts, isn't that part of what seperates us humans from the animal world?  Have always thought it funny (odd) that in many folks our first reaction, instinct, in seeing someone slip, trip, fall or in someway have an accident, is to run over and say, 'omg are you ok?'  the person has just crashed their car into a tree, for example.  likely not gonna be ok.  and yet.. it's our instinct to rush over and find out.  I've done that in a car accident that happened right in front of me.  It was afterwards, when I thought, WTF did I ask them that for?  lol  Still would rather have these instincts in humans, whatever quirky thing we might say or do along with them.. than the numbing effect that seems so widespread these days.  How awful it must feel to be hurting, yet able to see folks seeing that and walking on by.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, it was awful and it really blew me away. I mean I know people can be rude and selfish but to turn your back on someone in pain and in a predicament of not being able to get up in a traffic area was beyond belief. I could have been hit by a car who turned the corner not expecting someone on their knees in their path.
 
I heard there is going to be a new "reality show" that will show this exact same thing. They are going to create situations such as mine in a public area and see what people do. Personally I really can't take much more of seeing how downhill and numb our society is, let alone watch this for entertainment.

I've always been proud of my children, as I've stated before my sons have the White Knight syndrome and my daughter would give her last dime to a friend in need. We have never had much in the way of money but obviously I did a damn fine job in the ethics and compassion department.

My only wish is that Caylee that those type of people in her life. How many knew about any possible drugging? How many knew or suspected KC was abusing her. How many knew or suspected her little body was around the corner and did nothing about it?

You know, it does my heart good being here in the monkey cage. When you are sick, lonely, hurting, have a question, anything, you guys rally around and embrace the monkey. Peaches knew it too. I don't think everyone realizes that for some, Monkeys ARE family, they have no one else. God Bless you All!! Personally, for me, joining here was the best decision I made in 2008!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 02:45:38 PM
The photobucket for the person that took the Lee moving photos. 

Some pictures I have not seen.  I think Caylee's memorial pictures were interesting, I didn't know it was so large.  None of the media pics that I saw had this amount of offerings.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/



WOW.....I had not seen any of these either.....how in the World could the A's NOT go and see this, see the love of perfect stranger for their little murdered granddaughter? These people have no souls!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 02:46:00 PM
Sea Searcher... I thought that yellow stuff was insulation, but the closer I'm looking it almost looks like a cellophane type material. Sure looks like a lot of junk, I think I even see speakers.
I thought it kind of looked like something wrapped in yellow tissue paper ... or a very flimsy yellow bag like material ... you know ... like the crappy bags convenience stores use.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 02:47:07 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::

OHMYGAWD!  This was in the trash from Lee's house? And someone took it and put it in the A's driveway....OHMYGAWD!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Please do..I get embarrassed buying them at the store  ::MonkeyRoll::
Enquirer doesnt come in wrappings behind the shelfs......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 01, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
The fingerprint evidence from the duct tape would be back by now, (IF there was any ) there has been enough time. No one else has been charged, Lee's place has never been tossed. A search warrant has never been issued for Lee's place. I suspect his involvement has been an after the fact thing. If she was giving such large clues to Lee as to where to look, like where she went with her friend on a public jail house phone, then one can only assume that when she was bailed out by Big Hat and could speak in person to LEE, then she came right out and told him.
I have seen some of the tapes that were released and at the beginning, Casey wanted out of jail. so, she gives out tidbits and implies that has has other information that she can't share while she in in jail. So, of course they want to bail her out so she can give them the info she has to find Caylee. Little did she know she would be under such huge restrictions, ankle bracelet and has to stay at ther parents house. Watched 24 /7.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 02:48:12 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)
[/quote]

Holy Crap!  Whoever took these photos are keeping a close eye on Lee ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 02:49:57 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 01, 2009, 02:50:12 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Greta is telling it like it is... too many people jump to conclusions that everything has a sinister meaning when it doesn't. If you listen to her, she makes a lot of sense. I would take her word over NG's any time when it comes to the law!



Greta is trying to get another exclusive interview. Loving gp's don't behave the way the ants have.

As far as I'm concerned Mark Klaas is my gold standard of how parents of missing children should behave. He didn't hesitate to take a polygraph, rushed to the police station to give DNA, didn't need an attorney and certainly didn't need immunity.
When he was asked by NG recently to comment on the Anthony family needing immunity I thought he was going to explode with anger. This toxic family is what he called them.
You could see by the look on his face the contempt he holds them in.  Sorry Greta, you have always been biased towards the "grieving grandparents"- giving someone the  presumption of innocence doesn't mean ignoring all the disgusting stuff they have done to cover up the murder of a child..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:51:17 PM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)



 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

Could be why there's no duct tape left. 

Wonder if someone was having this type of 'fun and games' with Caylee, and she ended up suffocating before the tape was undone?  Doesn't explain the rest of what went down tho, cuz even if it were this, one would typically call 911 immediately.  Medical responders have reported some pretty darn strange things going on that end up needing medical attention to undo.  Might have been too late to make a call for Caylee.  :( 

I sure *would like* to believe that what happened to Caylee with the duct tape was nothing more evil than someone's stupid idea of fun gone horribly wrong.  Hard to believe that tho.  Just tossing it out there into the mix. 

How important to the prosecution do y'all think this video might be?
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 02:54:24 PM
]

posted at Greta wire ... wonder if they will take the criticism?

Quote
We shall see whether my comment on Greta's blog is allowed thru. Hey Greta, anytime you want a real debate on the issue, you know where to contact.

Whatever Greta ... I guess you are inclined to believe the Anthony's too? We all know how that worked out for you and your opinion when you claimed in order to get an interview with Joran Van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/06/greta-van-susteren-i-am-inclined-to-believe-him/

If memory serves me right you ate a plate full of crow on that one and had seconds.
http://tinyurl.com/7x8wje
TACOPINA: Fair enough. Fair enough. But I think — look, for a living, I sort of make an evaluation of people and…

VAN SUSTEREN: So do I, and I made a poor one. I made a poor one.

So once again Greta wants to come forward and say that asking for immunity is simply routine, BS. Why would someone think they would need protection from LE and what may have been perceived as a lie if their story was consistent through out? They answer is they would not. As it is, the Anthony's atty has already admitted that his clients have gave conflicting statements to police.
http://tinyurl.com/8ctd5d
If a lawyer is willing to admit this ... imagine what they have really done. Its the cockroach principle ... for one on the counter there are hundreds in the wall.

People who actually want to help find a missing person, especially when its their grand daughter, not only do not lie, only want to search for living persons and do not obstruct justice ... they do everything humanly possible to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Sorry Greta, you were wrong in the past and are here.



 ::MonkeyDance:: Way to Go RED!!!  Happy New year to you and Mrs. Red


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 02:54:57 PM
Mrk Klass is the gold standard, but so is Beth Twitty....they both acted like parents of missing children should act..the A's disgust me.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:55:40 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)

Holy Crap!  Whoever took these photos are keeping a close eye on Lee ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote]Yes, and whoever this lady is also called LE about Lee's move.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 02:57:55 PM
There may be more than one reason for Lee to move out of that house, and also I dont think Casey killed caylee because of who her father was, it was for her own selfish reasons and Im sure if Cindy and George would ever be truthful they would divulge what Casey told them before any of this ever happened....She prolly did say ( Ill kill Caylee befor Ill let you people have her) and this was after Im sure the Anthony's threatened to take her to court for custody!    These people were  crazy before all this happened and they are even crazier now!

I bet you are right, I see no way Casey would let Cindy and George raise Caylee, and I can just see her storming out of that house, saying I'll kill Caylee before you have her. ::MonkeyEek::

I agree with you both, sure could have happened like this.  Also, Casey could have said something like, 'Caylee will be better off dead than being raised by the two of you!'.. Same thing, just said differently.  Hope we find out someday. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
Mrk Klass is the gold standard, but so is Beth Twitty....they both acted like parents of missing children should act..the A's disgust me.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, and also little Samantha Runion's mother, a class act through everything, she also amazed me, and Mark Lundsford, I always tear up when I see him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 03:00:20 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Please do..I get embarrassed buying them at the store  ::MonkeyRoll::
Enquirer doesnt come in wrappings behind the shelfs......

Good one.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 01, 2009, 03:01:37 PM
If they had told the truth from the beginning, it may have forced KC to tell the truth. By spinning their lies, they assured her of LWOP and maybe now the DP. If they hadn't lied, she might have told she did it accidently and got off with a few years, now her FATE IS SEALED.

By lying they also will be indicted on felony charges, and both will lose their ability to practice their professions. Neither one of them can work in their field with a felony conviction.

By lying they also got LA involved and he most likely will be indicted and found guilty too. Now, he will have a felony record and can never get a good job. I also believe by lying they opened pandora's box on Lee's activities.

They can thank themselves for destroying not only themselves, but Lee as well trying to cover for KC and their own family secrets.

Lets count now.........their doing nothing and lying for KC before, put KC in the position she thought she could do anything and get by with it. Because of that many of her friend's lives have been disrupted and practically destroyed. They secured KC's conviction, their own and Lee's conviction and they have a
DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER. (Who has never been the focus in any of this by that family)

WOW !! What EVIL lurks in that family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: monkeymike on January 01, 2009, 03:02:27 PM
The photos all said Justice4Caylee had taken them. I remember when Murt was JBP and LP, a woman who was to be Justice4Caylee jumped in Murt's van and was talking to viewers. Isn't she the one that Cindy was going to kick her a$$ for starting a website for Caylee?

Happy New Year to all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 03:03:37 PM
Mrk Klass is the gold standard, but so is Beth Twitty....they both acted like parents of missing children should act..the A's disgust me.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 01, 2009, 03:04:46 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)

Holy Crap!  Whoever took these photos are keeping a close eye on Lee ::MonkeyWink::
Yes, and whoever this lady is also called LE about Lee's move.
[/quote]

What does that sign say? I can read it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
Sea Searcher... I thought that yellow stuff was insulation, but the closer I'm looking it almost looks like a cellophane type material. Sure looks like a lot of junk, I think I even see speakers.

You think that white object on the lawn is a speaker? could be...it looks like one of my towers but I can't see enough detail on the back..you're probably right as laptops seem to be the thing these days..

The yellow stuff appears to have thickness to it at the back but again, I can't get enough detail when I enlarge it..was hoping this pic was reduced to fit on the page here and there might be a larger version


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JodyO on January 01, 2009, 03:07:02 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

The only thing interesting is WHY isn't the prosecutor saying, "Sure, sure." Because he, the A's, and the A's lawyer know darned well they NEED immunity because they have hindered the investigation, probably perjured themselves to LE in their sworn afidavits, screwed around with evidence in an effort to hide it, and done everything but drop bread crumbs to try to lead the cops away from their guilty relative. And those are just the minor things they've done. There may be plenty of things none of us know about and only suspect.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 01, 2009, 03:07:24 PM
Mrk Klass is the gold standard, but so is Beth Twitty....they both acted like parents of missing children should act..the A's disgust me.... ::MonkeyNoNo::

They both acted with dignity and grace in the very worst of circumstances. Both of them even though it was painful wanted to know the truth about their child, and did everything they could to help find the truth.

The Anthonys are all evil - there is no comparison.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/monkeybump-1.gif) For TURBOTHINK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 03:09:50 PM
So, have we decided if Lee moved or was evicted?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 01, 2009, 03:11:35 PM
Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Caylee's Remains Were

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18394140/detail.html)
Thursday, January 1, 2009 – updated: 8:32 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who first bailed Casey Anthony out of jail said he believes someone in the Anthony camp knew where Caylee's remains were before the meter reader found them.

Padilla says a private investigator named Dominic Casey who worked with the Anthony family was aware as early as mid-November that the remains were in a wooded area near Suburban Drive.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Padilla Says P.I. Knew Where Remains Were (http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html)
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However, the remains weren't officially found until mid-December.

"He says, 'Yeah Dominic called me on the 15th and said you gotta get up here we found Caylee.' Hoover tells me that he then asked Dominic 'Is she alive?' 'No she's dead,'" said Padilla.

Happy brand new year Monkey's

Thank you Today,I sure hope this is not just another dog and pony show by LP and defense.
Thanks Trimm for the video links,does anyone know if these are the same videos we have already seen before I try and hold my breath and go watch them?


Supposed to be full version on video.Got a sick Grandson,so I haven't got to Check to them all out yet. May the force be with you.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
LOL....thanks Trimm.I did try and listen to Lee&Casey and Lee talks so low it's hard to hear him.Lee did say to Casey first thing"Hi there princess"....gagging.....
I hope your grandson gets well soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 03:12:05 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 03:14:35 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::

OHMYGAWD!  This was in the trash from Lee's house? And someone took it and put it in the A's driveway....OHMYGAWD!

on another site, the lady from justicefor caylee said she put the sign & put it in the A's driveway & it was removed 20 mins later. when i was looking at the pics of caylees' memorial & saw those list i thought the caption said casey's men. lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 03:17:09 PM
Just picked up the new Enquirer - will read then scan and post  ::MonkeyWink::

Please do..I get embarrassed buying them at the store  ::MonkeyRoll::
Enquirer doesnt come in wrappings behind the shelfs......

No more catnip for you pretty kitty... now shhh, I'm trying to stay on topic  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 03:21:43 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)

Holy Crap!  Whoever took these photos are keeping a close eye on Lee ::MonkeyWink::
Yes, and whoever this lady is also called LE about Lee's move.
[/quote]

Whoever she is I LIKE HER STYLE!  I wonder if he is anticipating getting arrested and needed to get Mallory back with her parents before this happens


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
If they had told the truth from the beginning, it may have forced KC to tell the truth. By spinning their lies, they assured her of LWOP and maybe now the DP. If they hadn't lied, she might have told she did it accidently and got off with a few years, now her FATE IS SEALED.

By lying they also will be indicted on felony charges, and both will lose their ability to practice their professions. Neither one of them can work in their field with a felony conviction.

By lying they also got LA involved and he most likely will be indicted and found guilty too. Now, he will have a felony record and can never get a good job. I also believe by lying they opened pandora's box on Lee's activities.

They can thank themselves for destroying not only themselves, but Lee as well trying to cover for KC and their own family secrets.

Lets count now.........their doing nothing and lying for KC before, put KC in the position she thought she could do anything and get by with it. Because of that many of her friend's lives have been disrupted and practically destroyed. They secured KC's conviction, their own and Lee's conviction and they have a
DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER. (Who has never been the focus in any of this by that family)

WOW !! What EVIL lurks in that family.

Totally agree with all you said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 03:26:27 PM
Hi Wyks, thanks for posting that. I think out of all of them Mrs Plesea is the most sane one. She genuinely seems to care about Cindy, Caylee, and Rick, but I think she could not give a rat's behind about Casey. Maybe that is because of what Casey did to her and her husband, or it could be a lifelong thing. Some grandparents love one grandchild, but despise the other from day one.

You're welcome joesamas mama!  She does seem to be the more sane of all of em.  We have to remember tho, that the worst person in the world can pretend to be something different, at least for awhile.  I'd just like to hear more of Shirley, see more of her, to be able to have a better idea.  Cindy didn't get the way she did overnight, just as Casey didn't.  (sorry for having such a mindset on this today.  finding out what makes people tick is part of what i like to do.  lol)  Shirley does seem to genuinely care, even about Casey at some point, not so much anymore it seems.  She has shown concern, in what she supposedly was trying to get Cindy to see, in regard to Casey.  If she didn't care about her at all, period, she wouldn't have bothered.  But then again too, it could show her concern for Caylee, having perhaps skipped over Casey.  Sometimes we do what we can then throw in the towel, thinking we can do no more. 

With my oldest, as awful as he has been, I've never turned my back on him, nor given up on him.  I'll continue to love the good in him, (which is precious little) even tho at the same time I will not tolerate the bad behaviors.  It's very verrrrrrrrry odd and awkward.  His father I kicked to the curb and didn't look back.  With my son, altho I have gone the tough-love routine when needed, I will not throw in the towel.  Sigh.  Am guessing there are many in here who understand, given their own circumstances. 

Shirley seems to have gotten to a place of having nothing left to offer, in regard to Casey.  Sociopaths drain the strength out of anyone closest to them.  My heart breaks for Shirley, for Cindy, even for Casey, but especially for Caylee.  Whoever had a part in what happened to Caylee needs to pay, IMO.  And also IMO, that includes emotional and verbal abuse as well, which very likely led up to the making of Casey, which very likely led to the demise of Caylee.  They all ought to go down, IMO.  Just round em up, and book em, Dano! 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 03:26:35 PM
Did i miss the National Enquirer Klaas??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 03:28:29 PM
The photos all said Justice4Caylee had taken them. I remember when Murt was JBP and LP, a woman who was to be Justice4Caylee jumped in Murt's van and was talking to viewers. Isn't she the one that Cindy was going to kick her a$$ for starting a website for Caylee?

Happy New Year to all!

Yes I do remember and I think you may be right.  Wasn't she a WS member?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 03:28:54 PM
Lee's residence on Eagle Feather. 

(http://i41.tinypic.com/s12nif.jpg)

This is definitely a house not an apartment.  The owner has a mailing address in NY, so I think we can assume that Lee is renting or house sitting.  It is not likely owners were there for rug cleaning. 

Property appraiser (http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_master?pid=302313131800220&query_data=1111111A&tax_year=2009) shows the house being owned by someone who's mailing address is in NY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 03:29:20 PM
Did i miss the National Enquirer Klaas??

Yes, a couple page back:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607395#msg607395


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 01, 2009, 03:30:08 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)

For TURBOTHINK

Thank you so much !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Greta is telling it like it is... too many people jump to conclusions that everything has a sinister meaning when it doesn't. If you listen to her, she makes a lot of sense. I would take her word over NG's any time when it comes to the law!



Greta is trying to get another exclusive interview. Loving gp's don't behave the way the ants have.

As far as I'm concerned Mark Klaas is my gold standard of how parents of missing children should behave. He didn't hesitate to take a polygraph, rushed to the police station to give DNA, didn't need an attorney and certainly didn't need immunity.
When he was asked by NG recently to comment on the Anthony family needing immunity I thought he was going to explode with anger. This toxic family is what he called them.
You could see by the look on his face the contempt he holds them in.  Sorry Greta, you have always been biased towards the "grieving grandparents"- giving someone the  presumption of innocence doesn't mean ignoring all the disgusting stuff they have done to cover up the murder of a child..

Mr. Klaas has a lot of class IMO.  Just think of how he must feel about being "categorized" in the same group with the A's of being a victim of an abducted, missing and murdered child.  It has to be infuriating to him to say the least.

Plus, look at all the resources and money that were WASTED with all of their shenanigans (legal and illegal).  Not limited to OCSO, OPD, FDLE, FBI, CPS, Body Farm, FSU and all the departments within these agencies.  

Wonder how many people are asking poor Tim and TES people..."why aren't you spending as much time and resources to find my loved one as you did for Caylee?"  How can he respond to that?  I can only imagine how that must "eat" him up that he can't do that for everyone.  How about all the people that donated time and MONEY to the A's to look for a LIVE Caylee that they ALL KNEW was already dead?  In the deepest part of my heart, I know I have witnessed PURE AND SIMPLE UNADULTERATED EVIL AT IT'S BEST WHILE WATCHING THESE PEOPLE.  And if Greta is willing to lay down her SOUL to mingle with these DEVILS just so she can get another EXCLUSIVE, all I can say is she ain't much better.

Red, I sure wish she would take you up on your offer...but we all know that won't happen.  But thank you for writing it.  

PS.  I appreciate this forum more than I can say.  Thanks for being here...all of you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 03:32:25 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 03:33:46 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons
and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...


::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: Totally!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 03:34:44 PM
Oh, and Bearly.. I swear I wasn't trying to lure your monkey boyfriend away from you.  ::MonkeyWaa::  (Honestly, I don't think he can be lured.. he was just bein' nice to me.  ::MonkeyTongue:: )



 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:35:06 PM
Hi Wyks, thanks for posting that. I think out of all of them Mrs Plesea is the most sane one. She genuinely seems to care about Cindy, Caylee, and Rick, but I think she could not give a rat's behind about Casey. Maybe that is because of what Casey did to her and her husband, or it could be a lifelong thing. Some grandparents love one grandchild, but despise the other from day one.

You're welcome joesamas mama!  She does seem to be the more sane of all of em.  We have to remember tho, that the worst person in the world can pretend to be something different, at least for awhile.  I'd just like to hear more of Shirley, see more of her, to be able to have a better idea.  Cindy didn't get the way she did overnight, just as Casey didn't.  (sorry for having such a mindset on this today.  finding out what makes people tick is part of what i like to do.  lol)  Shirley does seem to genuinely care, even about Casey at some point, not so much anymore it seems.  She has shown concern, in what she supposedly was trying to get Cindy to see, in regard to Casey.  If she didn't care about her at all, period, she wouldn't have bothered.  But then again too, it could show her concern for Caylee, having perhaps skipped over Casey.  Sometimes we do what we can then throw in the towel, thinking we can do no more. 

With my oldest, as awful as he has been, I've never turned my back on him, nor given up on him.  I'll continue to love the good in him, (which is precious little) even tho at the same time I will not tolerate the bad behaviors.  It's very verrrrrrrrry odd and awkward.  His father I kicked to the curb and didn't look back.  With my son, altho I have gone the tough-love routine when needed, I will not throw in the towel.  Sigh.  Am guessing there are many in here who understand, given their own circumstances. 

Shirley seems to have gotten to a place of having nothing left to offer, in regard to Casey.  Sociopaths drain the strength out of anyone closest to them.  My heart breaks for Shirley, for Cindy, even for Casey, but especially for Caylee.  Whoever had a part in what happened to Caylee needs to pay, IMO.  And also IMO, that includes emotional and verbal abuse as well, which very likely led up to the making of Casey, which very likely led to the demise of Caylee.  They all ought to go down, IMO.  Just round em up, and book em, Dano! 
 
My heart breaks for Shirley, George and Caylee. Cindy, not so much. With your son, you can't just kick him to the curb, just like my mom couldn't do that to my brother. He wasn't a sociopath, he was just a crazy immature boy with a drug problem. You are a good person Wyks, cause you still love your child, but love your grandchild more!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 03:36:19 PM
The photos all said Justice4Caylee had taken them. I remember when Murt was JBP and LP, a woman who was to be Justice4Caylee jumped in Murt's van and was talking to viewers. Isn't she the one that Cindy was going to kick her a$$ for starting a website for Caylee?

Happy New Year to all!

Yes I do remember and I think you may be right.  Wasn't she a WS member?
The one that got on mike in Murt's van is a mod at WS. 

The Justice For Caylee person is a different person than the mod at WS.  This Justice For Caylee person did start a website and had received an I'm not happy email from Cindy.  This is not the same person that had the Caylee is alive poster and was photograhed praying, that was Joy Wray. 

It is also my understanding, but have not been able to verify, that this Justice For Caylee person is different than the Justice For Caylee protesters. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on January 01, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
Happy happy New Year to all the wonderful Monkeys here...

(Crazy reading in here tonight, and it was fun...  Silly monkeys!) ::cartwheel::

Praying that 2009 will bring justice for our little Caylee angel...

Grandparents who raised a messed-up daughter
Grandparents who didn't even know that she was seven months pregnant
Grandparents who ..
.. covered up their demon daughter's crimes
.. called her "sociopath" behind her back, but did nothing
.. let her take her own child away for mysterious overnights
.. paid for everything and never held the mother accountable
.. allowed their child to lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more
.. have big issues of their own with gambling, lying, violence, secrets
.. covered up the secret of "who the father is"
.. waited for a month to pass without seeing their grandchild
.. never knew or saw the supposed "nanny"
.. didn't call police when they smelled that abandoned car
.. then reported thefts of $$ and a car before mentioning a missing child
.. lied to investigators who were trying to find their granddaughter
.. arrogantly called the public names and lied to the media
.. blatantly tampered with witnesses
.. also tampered with evidence, even giving LE the wrong brush
.. got in confrontations with protesters, but not their murdering daughter
.. continued to defend their daughter by pretending the baby wasn't dead
.. allowed their murdered grandchild to rot out in the elements for six months while claiming that her killer is "Mother of the Year"

IMO, these are NOT grandparents who should be asking for immunity!!

Instead of immunity, they need... humilityHonestyRespect for Caylee.
They need to get busy and respectfully bury their poor grandchild and change their tune immediately; start coughing up nothing but the truth, in honor of Caylee.

No immunity, no publicity, no book or movie deals, no more Larry King Live, no more limo rides, no more secrets. 
Just the truth.

(Yeah, I know.  But I can dream, can't I? -- and sorry for the rant.)




Excellent post!

BYW, if Cindy thought Casey was "mother of the year", why, in the last 911 phone call when the dispatcher was waiting for Casey to get on the phone, did Cindy scream, "They (the police) need to get here soon before I beat the $hit out of her"???????  Doesn't sound like Cindy thought too much of Casey at that time.


Hmm, THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN IMMUNITY??? WOW! Ok so if this hasn't been discussed already, Then the A's are mostly asking for the immunity BECAUSE all George or Cindy has to say is " I killed Caylee"  and THEY ALL WALK FREE!... OMG! Tell me this isn't happening!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::/quote]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 03:38:10 PM
Did i miss the National Enquirer Klaas??

Yes, a couple page back:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607395#msg607395

Thanx Klaas!Reading it now.Very chilling.How sad!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 03:38:27 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...


Me too, and it isn't a pretty picture. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:40:11 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.
Red, maybe you can answer this. Some people have been saying that Fox News is all for the Ants, etc. especially with Geraldo and now the censor of your comment to Greta. There has even been comments on SM that Fox is paying for the defense of Casey.

Do you think Rupert Murdoch/Fox News would pay for her defense? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:41:10 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...


Me too, and it isn't a pretty picture. ::MonkeyEek::
Why would he be in the basement writing on a milk carton? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 01, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)

mmmmmmmm.......ok...that looks similar to that thing Muffy posted in Nat's thread earlier  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I agree...Lee is weird.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Monkey See Monkey Don't Do on January 01, 2009, 03:42:41 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...


Me too, and it isn't a pretty picture. ::MonkeyEek::


 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I have to wait til the written transcripts come out.   ::MonkeyWaa::  Santa didn't bring me speakers for my comp.  Or a sound card, for that matter.  I must have been a very naughty monkey this past year.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif) 

It just seems to me that if they were going to all the trouble of releasing tapes and videos, they would not be edited first.  What's the sense in releasing them if they take out all the details that matter?  If something had been on those they needed for the trial, then why not just say that, or say nothing, but hold it back.  Releasing stuff after it's been edited is, IMO, very misleading, giving a skewed version to the public.  I'm talking details, not private info etc, which ought to edited, yes.  Releasing only the bare essentials, doesn't it just defeat the whole purpose of the sunshine laws in that state?   Or do I have the wrong idea about what those laws mean?  Don't they know that we monkeys are a very curious lot?  pffffffft   ::MonkeyWink::



You were a good monkey Wyks, if I had a sound card I would FedEx you one today.

Awwwww thanks joesamas mama, you're so sweet!   ::MonkeyWink:: 

We have 5 computers in our house, atm, all up and running.  As soon as the first one bites the dust, am yanking the sound card and speakers.  Heh. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 01, 2009, 03:45:21 PM
[quote author=no rose colored glasses link=topic=4332.msg607232#msg607232 date=1230830156Yes, and who ever took the sign, walked to Cindy and George's house and put it on their driveway. ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee3.jpg)

Holy Crap!  Whoever took these photos are keeping a close eye on Lee ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote]

Maybe the photographer moved the sign.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 03:46:17 PM
JSM..LOL..most grown men who live in their folks basement write their name on the milk so no one will drink it but tthem..it is just a joke..LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
Yeah, another-I had a great night!  Fell asleep early and missed celebrating the New Year!  Woke up at 5am!  That's unreal for me!

Have you had a chance to watch the tapes?  I watched them about a month ago and don't know if there's that much more on them since they're now unedited.  Don't know if they're worth re-watching.  Do you know?

I've only watched them the first time they came out.  I suppose unedited might be interesting to listen to..  I just don't know if I can stand listening to them.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I have to wait til the written transcripts come out.   ::MonkeyWaa::  Santa didn't bring me speakers for my comp.  Or a sound card, for that matter.  I must have been a very naughty monkey this past year.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif) 

It just seems to me that if they were going to all the trouble of releasing tapes and videos, they would not be edited first.  What's the sense in releasing them if they take out all the details that matter?  If something had been on those they needed for the trial, then why not just say that, or say nothing, but hold it back.  Releasing stuff after it's been edited is, IMO, very misleading, giving a skewed version to the public.  I'm talking details, not private info etc, which ought to edited, yes.  Releasing only the bare essentials, doesn't it just defeat the whole purpose of the sunshine laws in that state?   Or do I have the wrong idea about what those laws mean?  Don't they know that we monkeys are a very curious lot?  pffffffft   ::MonkeyWink::



You were a good monkey Wyks, if I had a sound card I would FedEx you one today.

Awwwww thanks joesamas mama, you're so sweet!   ::MonkeyWink:: 

We have 5 computers in our house, atm, all up and running.  As soon as the first one bites the dust, am yanking the sound card and speakers.  Heh. 

Maybe Lee could come over and put the blue screen of death on one. I hear he is better at that than he is at tearing up posters.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 03:46:58 PM
I wonder what Lee really does for a living, I know that he traveled a lot for his job, but I could have sworn recently, George saying he took an accounting job. I don't know how he could have held down a job in the last several months, with all the PI work he was doing. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:48:03 PM
JSM..LOL..most grown men who live in their folks basement write their name on the milk so no one will drink it but tthem..it is just a joke..LOL
Oh I get it now. I did get the D&D part. Lee is an immature freak that needs to go straight to jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:49:11 PM
I wonder what Lee really does for a living, I know that he traveled a lot for his job, but I could have sworn recently, George saying he took an accounting job. I don't know how he could have held down a job in the last several months, with all the PI work he was doing. ::MonkeyRoll::
I always thought he was a Fuller Brush Man with all the "traveling" CinCin said he did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
I wonder what Lee really does for a living, I know that he traveled a lot for his job, but I could have sworn recently, George saying he took an accounting job. I don't know how he could have held down a job in the last several months, with all the PI work he was doing. ::MonkeyRoll::
I always thought he was a Fuller Brush Man with all the "traveling" CinCin said he did.
Do they still have Fuller Brush salesman anymore? I haven't thought about that in years. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 01, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
Perhaps Greta is afraid of being sued? I have no clue, lol. I am just hanging out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 03:53:26 PM
I wonder what Lee really does for a living, I know that he traveled a lot for his job, but I could have sworn recently, George saying he took an accounting job. I don't know how he could have held down a job in the last several months, with all the PI work he was doing. ::MonkeyRoll::


Accounting?  Like adding up his Pay Pal Account?

Guess now that he has to account for the money he collected and spent looking for Caylee will have to be paid back....he might just be short of money and can't afford his own place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
I wonder what Lee really does for a living, I know that he traveled a lot for his job, but I could have sworn recently, George saying he took an accounting job. I don't know how he could have held down a job in the last several months, with all the PI work he was doing. ::MonkeyRoll::
I always thought he was a Fuller Brush Man with all the "traveling" CinCin said he did.
Do they still have Fuller Brush salesman anymore? I haven't thought about that in years. ::MonkeyHaHa::
IDK, that is a saying my step dad always said about traveling salesmen. I didn't know they were real until recently.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
One thing that jumped out at me, Conway was quick to point out no duct tape was found at the Anthonys. I don't think the talk about duct tape being around Caylee's skull or bag, was officially stated, so now we know duct tape was used, thanks Conway. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 01, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 01, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 04:01:14 PM
Hi Monkeys and Happy New Year to all!

I'm lagging behind, but Wyks, I appreciated your post on Cindy's family dynamics.  I too have wondered about this for some time but didn't want to bring up negative info on her uninvolved family members.  You handled this well!

I do think we're products of our environments to a certain extent, but I know wonderful people with horrible upbringings.  I also know people with great, healthy childhoods who didn't turn out so great.  It's just hard to say.


Thanks blurry, glad it helped.  What you've said is very true, I've also seen folks go either way.  Interesting to me as well, is trying to figure out what part the environment plays in a person's life, as well as what part genetics play.  From what I've learned, it's a mixture of both.  I think what we see in Casey is a mixture of both and personal choices/decisions combined.  IMO.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 04:01:16 PM
Lee is a freaking weirdo....I mean, look at that beer pong drawing... ::MonkeyEek::
Him and his star wars/Star trek collecting weirdo freaky ass....

I can totally see him down in a dark basement
in his parents home playing dungeons and dragons and writing his name on the milk carton...freak...


Me too, and it isn't a pretty picture. ::MonkeyEek::


You got that right.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:04:30 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: Oh my word!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:05:11 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 04:05:38 PM
One thing that jumped out at me, Conway was quick to point out no duct tape was found at the Anthonys. I don't think the talk about duct tape being around Caylee's skull or bag, was officially stated, so now we know duct tape was used, thanks Conway. ::MonkeyRoll::


 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JodyO on January 01, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
Happy happy New Year to all the wonderful Monkeys here...

(Crazy reading in here tonight, and it was fun...  Silly monkeys!) ::cartwheel::

Praying that 2009 will bring justice for our little Caylee angel...

Grandparents who raised a messed-up daughter
Grandparents who didn't even know that she was seven months pregnant
Grandparents who ..
.. covered up their demon daughter's crimes
.. called her "sociopath" behind her back, but did nothing
.. let her take her own child away for mysterious overnights
.. paid for everything and never held the mother accountable
.. allowed their child to lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more
.. have big issues of their own with gambling, lying, violence, secrets
.. covered up the secret of "who the father is"
.. waited for a month to pass without seeing their grandchild
.. never knew or saw the supposed "nanny"
.. didn't call police when they smelled that abandoned car
.. then reported thefts of $$ and a car before mentioning a missing child
.. lied to investigators who were trying to find their granddaughter
.. arrogantly called the public names and lied to the media
.. blatantly tampered with witnesses
.. also tampered with evidence, even giving LE the wrong brush
.. got in confrontations with protesters, but not their murdering daughter
.. continued to defend their daughter by pretending the baby wasn't dead
.. allowed their murdered grandchild to rot out in the elements for six months while claiming that her killer is "Mother of the Year"

IMO, these are NOT grandparents who should be asking for immunity!!

Instead of immunity, they need... humilityHonestyRespect for Caylee.
They need to get busy and respectfully bury their poor grandchild and change their tune immediately; start coughing up nothing but the truth, in honor of Caylee.

No immunity, no publicity, no book or movie deals, no more Larry King Live, no more limo rides, no more secrets. 
Just the truth.

(Yeah, I know.  But I can dream, can't I? -- and sorry for the rant.)




Excellent post!

BYW, if Cindy thought Casey was "mother of the year", why, in the last 911 phone call when the dispatcher was waiting for Casey to get on the phone, did Cindy scream, "They (the police) need to get here soon before I beat the $hit out of her"???????  Doesn't sound like Cindy thought too much of Casey at that time.


Hmm, THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN IMMUNITY??? WOW! Ok so if this hasn't been discussed already, Then the A's are mostly asking for the immunity BECAUSE all George or Cindy has to say is " I killed Caylee"  and THEY ALL WALK FREE!... OMG! Tell me this isn't happening!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::/quote]

"Grandparents who didn't even know that she was seven months pregnant"

If you believe the interview Kio gave to the NE, it seems that Cindy knew long before Casey was 7 mos. pregnant that she was. Kio says Casey was thinking about having an abortion and talked to Kio who tries to talk her out of it, then Kio says Cindy said no abortion and that sealed Casey's fate. This was soon after Casey discovered she was pregnant and first confided in Kio about it, so it looks like Cindy just chose to pretend like she didn't know Casey was pregnant when they went to the wedding where Casey appeared to be obviously knocked up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 04:06:50 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Personally, based on his history, I wouldn't let Henry Lee anywhere near this case!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Oh, I agree, I don't trust him, it just seemed weird, he examines the car, and next day there is a video being done close to Caylee's remains. I've been thinking, could the meter man have overheard something at the Anthony's house and that is why he stumbled upon Caylee's remains when he did? ::MonkeyEek::

That IS very weird, no rose!  And the meter man perhaps overhearing something, that's an interesting possibility I hadn't thought of!  Am betting it has been easy to overhear Cindy on that entire street, but especially someone coming close enough to the house to read the meter.  hmmm. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 04:08:23 PM
I know one thing Lee would NOT do down in the basement...use these....

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/sylvieann49/TWEEZERS.jpg)

to fix these


(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/sylvieann49/bushy-eyebrows.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 01, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 01, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
MARK NEJAME quit as the Anthony's attorney November 21, I wonder if he found out about the PI's knowing where Caylee's body was placed?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

Morning Monkeys!  Happy New Year to all!
And also Henry Lee examined Casey's car on Nov 14, and then the next day PI's are making a video close to the remains. Something isn't right with any of this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Personally, based on his history, I wouldn't let Henry Lee anywhere near this case!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Oh, I agree, I don't trust him, it just seemed weird, he examines the car, and next day there is a video being done close to Caylee's remains. I've been thinking, could the meter man have overheard something at the Anthony's house and that is why he stumbled upon Caylee's remains when he did? ::MonkeyEek::

That IS very weird, no rose!  And the meter man perhaps overhearing something, that's an interesting possibility I hadn't thought of!  Am betting it has been easy to overhear Cindy on that entire street, but especially someone coming close enough to the house to read the meter.  hmmm. 


Perhaps while he was working his route, he had conversations with some of the neighbors and they told him about Kio's theory and they might have suggested to him BOLO..Be On the Look Out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen

I was JUST telling my mom,  that of course, if I had to choose, i would choose my kids over my dog...LOL..BUT,I love my dog almost like one of my kids....
I dont know if anyone loves their dog like I love mine.....She is like having a 3rd child....I absolutely adore her.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen
Happy New Year to you too! I love doggies too. Your's is adorable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 04:22:25 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen

I was JUST telling my mom,  that of course, if I had to choose, i would choose my kids over my dog...LOL..BUT,I love my dog almost like one of my kids....
I dont know if anyone loves their dog like I love mine.....She is like having a 3rd child....I absolutely adore her.....
You have a beautiful pup, my dog is also like a child to me, I let her get away with a lot of things, but oh well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
Well, well, well.  Have a sick child and you show your true colors.   ::MonkeyShocked::
Seamen always need a vessel to squeeze their ships into, don't they?   ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy New Year!!!



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I had to say something to try and lure you out of the woodwork ! I thought I was abandoned, yet again, by another monkey friend  ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm sorry to hear about your sick child...and your water heater...but I'm glad your OK and hoped you had a nice holiday  ::MonkeyWink::

Happy New Year Bearly!!!! .. she'll be gone by the time I post this...just watch

(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:JVjjQfzFwPH7LM:http://www.hellokids.com/img/le-bisou-42151.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: Oh my word!



Fair and Balanced, just like BO says, lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 04:25:50 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 04:28:00 PM
I second JSM--congrats Karen and Nut.  Wyks, what is your gut feeling (I can't believe I just typed that)? Do you think Casey was born or made?  And here's a thought--if Casey has indeed been a problem child from the beginning, could she in turn have created changes in Cindy?  Sorry to drag this issue through the mud today, monkeys, but it has a lot of personal relevance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 04:29:32 PM
I'm just shaking my head over the severly edited comment Red left for Greta, now I'm wondering how many comments get this kind of editing? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen

I was JUST telling my mom,  that of course, if I had to choose, i would choose my kids over my dog...LOL..BUT,I love my dog almost like one of my kids....
I dont know if anyone loves their dog like I love mine.....She is like having a 3rd child....I absolutely adore her.....
I'm glad I don't have to choose kids or my dog. I wish everyone loved dogs like we do. Dogs are smart, kind, loyal and know if they have been bad. Maybe that is why I don't have a husband anymore. Your baby is so sweet and little. I would be afraid I would break her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?
The missing duct tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:35:56 PM
I second JSM--congrats Karen and Nut.  Wyks, what is your gut feeling (I can't believe I just typed that)? Do you think Casey was born or made?  And here's a thought--if Casey has indeed been a problem child from the beginning, could she in turn have created changes in Cindy?  Sorry to drag this issue through the mud today, monkeys, but it has a lot of personal relevance.
Blurry I'm not Wyks, but if she had been a problem since her birth, I truly believe she could have created changes in Cindy. A parent always protects her child and maybe that is what Cindy did since Casey was little because she new Casey was not right in the head. Then as a child Casey played up to it knowing Cindy would always be there to have her back. Remember the birthday party Casey went to and threw a fit because she wasn't the center of attention. She called Cindy and Cindy threw a walleyed fit. I hope that makes sense because I am so tired from last night. Boo kept me up all night laughing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
I asked this yesterday, do jailbirds get blackeyed peas, cabbage and corn bread on New Year's Day?

I don't mind the other inmates getting some, but Casey doesn't deserve it. JMO TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 04:43:53 PM
Thanks, JSM.  I tend to be something like the difficult child in the family, and today my heart is breaking that I might have damaged loved ones even more than I thought.  I pray that the new year will be one to make them proud of me.

I hope the A's can repair a relationship which seems very codependent to me, can sort out this mess, and can do the right thing by precious Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?
The missing duct tape?

Don't talk to the Anthony's or their attorney's!If they want to tell the TRUTH so be it.If not.Prosecute!They will live a lonely existence on this planet.Who'd be friends with those people??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 01, 2009, 04:47:42 PM
I'm just shaking my head over the severly edited comment Red left for Greta, now I'm wondering how many comments get this kind of editing? ::MonkeyEek::

I posted some negative comments an hour ago and they haven't been displayed -  yet-  ?why


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 04:51:20 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?
The missing duct tape?
Conway said LE didn't find any duct tape, maybe that is why, they hid it pretty darn good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
Thanks, JSM.  I tend to be something like the difficult child in the family, and today my heart is breaking that I might have damaged loved ones even more than I thought.  I pray that the new year will be one to make them proud of me.

I hope the A's can repair a relationship which seems very codependent to me, can sort out this mess, and can do the right thing by precious Caylee.
Oh Blurry, everyone in their mind tends to think they are the "difficult child". Everyone is "diffcult" at one time of their life or the other. You never know how proud they are of you, sometimes parents have a hard time telling you. I am the horrible child because I stay home with my dog and sometimes drink a beer or two. I am the "different" one because I went back to the religion I was baptisted into as a baby. They might not like the things I do, but they still love me as your family does you.

I hope the Ants can repair their family too. I prayed for them at Mass last night. First time I had even prayed for Casey.

I guarantee it will be a better year for you. Have confidence and that will show your family you are trying. JSM  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 04:56:33 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


I have lost all respect for Greta and Fox.  This is journalism at its worse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
Hey Nut:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!   ::cartwheel::

Last night you mentioned you have 20 some months sober, congratulations!  Three and half years here. 

Karen
Congrads Karen to you and Nut.

Thanks and happy happy new year!  Anyone that takes their dog to day care is my kind of woman!  I so love doggies!

Karen

I was JUST telling my mom,  that of course, if I had to choose, i would choose my kids over my dog...LOL..BUT,I love my dog almost like one of my kids....
I dont know if anyone loves their dog like I love mine.....She is like having a 3rd child....I absolutely adore her.....
You have a beautiful pup, my dog is also like a child to me, I let her get away with a lot of things, but oh well.
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Don't we all No Rose. When they look at you like Zoe is in her avatar picture it makes your heart melt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 04:57:58 PM
The photos all said Justice4Caylee had taken them. I remember when Murt was JBP and LP, a woman who was to be Justice4Caylee jumped in Murt's van and was talking to viewers. Isn't she the one that Cindy was going to kick her a$$ for starting a website for Caylee?

Happy New Year to all!

Yes I do remember and I think you may be right.  Wasn't she a WS member?
The one that got on mike in Murt's van is a mod at WS. 

The Justice For Caylee person is a different person than the mod at WS.  This Justice For Caylee person did start a website and had received an I'm not happy email from Cindy.  This is not the same person that had the Caylee is alive poster and was photograhed praying, that was Joy Wray. 

It is also my understanding, but have not been able to verify, that this Justice For Caylee person is different than the Justice For Caylee protesters. 

Justice 4 Caylee was the one who was on Murt's video/audio. Justice For Caylee is different.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 01, 2009, 04:58:24 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?
The missing duct tape?
Conway said LE didn't find any duct tape, maybe that is why, they hid it pretty darn good.

How would Conway know what LE took from their house???  They weren't even home during the first search, they were on a plane.  I don't think LE is gonna share what they took, sooo that leaves open.....how did the Ants know there wasn't any duct tape unless they removed it themselves prior to the search.  Sounds suspicious


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:00:07 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:00:24 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?
The missing duct tape?
Conway said LE didn't find any duct tape, maybe that is why, they hid it pretty darn good.
They probably made a tape ball and let the dogs play with it. Who knows. Conway says no tape was found, what does LE say? Hmmm. Maybe I should leave a post for my soft cuddly Sheriff BEARy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 05:00:52 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 05:02:32 PM
Just a little repost to make us smile. We all love Caylee and it seems we all LOVE our dogs:

From Richard Grunds Myspace blog:

December a time to remember two innocents I loved
Current mood: thoughtful
Category: Life

Today is the second anniversary of my beloved dog Samson leaving us and crossing the Rainbow Bridge.  The loss of Caylee and her confirmed departure to Heaven happening this month makes December a time to remember two innocents that we loved and who loved each other.

Samson was 170 lbs of pure love, innocence and happiness.  He lived to be loved and to love in return.  He was the product of inbreeding so he was a prennial puppy whose body matured but his mind didn't.  He would chase butterflies and run from Florida Lizards.  I would chastise him for being a poor excuse for a Rottweiler when a Florida Lizard would startle him and he would run away from them.  He would never come back in from outside unless you patted his head and told him he was okay.  He would smile and express his love for you with the wagging of his curled tail and that toothy grin of his.

He played a practical joke on me where he would make me think he wanted to go out and when I walked over to the sliding glass door he would jump into my seat on the sofa.  His body would shake as he waited for me to lovingly chastise him and jump on top of him.

Whenever I appear on Nancy Grace they show pictures of Caylee and Sammy together, which is so cool because now everyone knows about my Sammy.  He LOVED little Caylee.  She had this blue chair that would bounce when she got excited and she always got excited when Sammy was around.  He would lay right near her and she would get so excited that her arms would flap in excitement and she would be slapping the sides of his face and he loved it.  He would lick her face raw if you didn't make him stop. She loved every minute of it and loved him.  As this picture shows, where ever Caylee was Sammy wasn't too far behind.


When we heard about Caylee being missing I wrote a similar story about them. Many of you told me about dreams or visions of seeing them playing together in Heaven.  At the time I could not comment on whether Caylee was here or had gone Home.  But, in my heart I knew where she was and knew that Sammy was there waiting for her.  They were running together in the fields of Heaven playing and loving on each other.  She is safe and they are together.  I know that I will see them again someday and when that day comes I will run with them and roll on the ground and once again be able to shower them with kisses.  I will let them know how much I missed them but will never be sad about it again.  There are no tears in Heaven!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 01, 2009, 05:03:53 PM
One thing that jumped out at me, Conway was quick to point out no duct tape was found at the Anthonys. I don't think the talk about duct tape being around Caylee's skull or bag, was officially stated, so now we know duct tape was used, thanks Conway. ::MonkeyRoll::


 :smt045

In my opinion, most people would still have a 'the' roll of duct tape around IF it came from the house. IMO most people would not have the same box/roll of trash bags that they had months earlier to compare the lot to. Especially when we have seen how often the Ants take out the trash ;) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
Muffy, I see you are keeping watch. How am I doing being on topic? I made a promise I will try in 2009! I can do it, just watch and see!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Happy New Year you little bumble bee! Hearts from JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 01, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


I have lost all respect for Greta and Fox.  This is journalism at its worse.

I still wonder if Fox is behind paying for the defense!

Happy New Year all you Monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:06:52 PM
Just a little repost to make us smile. We all love Caylee and it seems we all LOVE our dogs:

From Richard Grunds Myspace blog:

December a time to remember two innocents I loved
Current mood: thoughtful
Category: Life

Today is the second anniversary of my beloved dog Samson leaving us and crossing the Rainbow Bridge.  The loss of Caylee and her confirmed departure to Heaven happening this month makes December a time to remember two innocents that we loved and who loved each other.

Samson was 170 lbs of pure love, innocence and happiness.  He lived to be loved and to love in return.  He was the product of inbreeding so he was a prennial puppy whose body matured but his mind didn't.  He would chase butterflies and run from Florida Lizards.  I would chastise him for being a poor excuse for a Rottweiler when a Florida Lizard would startle him and he would run away from them.  He would never come back in from outside unless you patted his head and told him he was okay.  He would smile and express his love for you with the wagging of his curled tail and that toothy grin of his.

He played a practical joke on me where he would make me think he wanted to go out and when I walked over to the sliding glass door he would jump into my seat on the sofa.  His body would shake as he waited for me to lovingly chastise him and jump on top of him.

Whenever I appear on Nancy Grace they show pictures of Caylee and Sammy together, which is so cool because now everyone knows about my Sammy.  He LOVED little Caylee.  She had this blue chair that would bounce when she got excited and she always got excited when Sammy was around.  He would lay right near her and she would get so excited that her arms would flap in excitement and she would be slapping the sides of his face and he loved it.  He would lick her face raw if you didn't make him stop. She loved every minute of it and loved him.  As this picture shows, where ever Caylee was Sammy wasn't too far behind.


When we heard about Caylee being missing I wrote a similar story about them. Many of you told me about dreams or visions of seeing them playing together in Heaven.  At the time I could not comment on whether Caylee was here or had gone Home.  But, in my heart I knew where she was and knew that Sammy was there waiting for her.  They were running together in the fields of Heaven playing and loving on each other.  She is safe and they are together.  I know that I will see them again someday and when that day comes I will run with them and roll on the ground and once again be able to shower them with kisses.  I will let them know how much I missed them but will never be sad about it again.  There are no tears in Heaven!

Boo I read that when you first posted it. Made me cry then as it does now. I'm glad Caylee had a puppy that loved her. I think Rotties are great dogs with kids. I bet Caylee and Sampson are having a time in heaven with Jesus and all the Saints!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 05:07:45 PM
JSM, I dont have a hubby either!! And thank you for saying she is sweet!! I love her dearly..so much, that I spent my grocery money on a trip to the vet. this week...LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 05:09:33 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 05:10:06 PM
Wow, that one guy on CNN is givin' LP a hard time...  saying it would take him all of 15 minutes to question him on the stand.  LP said he was an idiot for saying what he's saying about him on national TV.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 05:11:08 PM
O/t see Flossys prayer request in musings.  thankyou.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 01, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     

Wasn't there a picture of someone's bed - maybe it was Ricardo's - and on the night stand was a roll of duct tape?   Anyone else remember this? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:12:13 PM
One thing that jumped out at me, Conway was quick to point out no duct tape was found at the Anthonys. I don't think the talk about duct tape being around Caylee's skull or bag, was officially stated, so now we know duct tape was used, thanks Conway. ::MonkeyRoll::


 :smt045

In my opinion, most people would still have a 'the' roll of duct tape around IF it came from the house. IMO most people would not have the same box/roll of trash bags that they had months earlier to compare the lot to. Especially when we have seen how often the Ants take out the trash ;) 
Most people don't wrap up their roomates like a mummy and video tape it. They new what was coming before they left town. Either that or Mallory had the roll stuffed into her jeans covered by that big as* shirt. JMO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 01, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 05:12:45 PM
Thanks, JSM.  You are a sweet monkey like so many others here.  I will get back OT but I appreciate your kindness and understanding.  You are right--my family keeps telling me how proud they are of me, but I can't hear it right now.  Thanks for praying for the A's with me--I don't agree with their actions, but as far as I'm concerned, until the end, no one should be abandoned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 05:13:39 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     
Good thought, and who knows what else they took from Tony's apt, that Casey left there and is damaging.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 01, 2009, 05:13:41 PM
Does anyone know what times the specials that Nancy Grace is doing today?  I wanted to tivo them.  NG is supposedly having a two hour special just about the Caylee case today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 05:14:06 PM
I know this is way off topic, but would any of you who pray please visit the prayer request thread in the monkey lounge? 

TIA. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:14:23 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 01, 2009, 05:17:02 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 05:17:06 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     
Good thought, and who knows what else they took from Tony's apt, that Casey left there and is damaging.
yes   also I wouldnt be surprise if the LE isnt over at Lee's now vacant house before long either.,,,,,,,,,,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
JSM, I dont have a hubby either!! And thank you for saying she is sweet!! I love her dearly..so much, that I spent my grocery money on a trip to the vet. this week...LOL
Sometimes its good not having a hubby. If you had one, he would yell about spending grocery money on the dog and not him. I hope all is well with your baby.

I spent over 5k on Joe when he was attacked by coyotes. What I have spent on him in vet bills I could buy a BMW. I would rather drive a hoopty and have a healthy dog, than drive a fancy car. You are a good doggie mom nikki.

Come over here I have blackeyed peas cooking. No cornbread though!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 05:18:24 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

Hell with Immunity for the Anthony's.I think others will nail their coffin shut.They better start speaking to minimize the consequences.Which Anthony will speak first???? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 05:20:17 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!
Crazy Joy is everywhere, maybe she should stay at home and take care of her kids. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 05:20:19 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact
It has all become just a money making cover up for alot of people wanting to make money, and all at the exspence of a darling little girl......I can bet you one thing here and now...................with this many people in over their heads a leak is gonna come soon and everyone is going down!      well except for the one that is smart enough to talk now!    FBI im sure is getting alot straight right now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 05:21:27 PM
Thank-you Jerseygirl... can you figure out what that yellow thing is? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 05:22:38 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact
It has all become just a money making cover up for alot of people wanting to make money, and all at the exspence of a darling little girl......I can bet you one thing here and now...................with this many people in over their heads a leak is gonna come soon and everyone is going down!      well except for the one that is smart enough to talk now!    FBI im sure is getting alot straight right now!

I agree HH.I sure hope one of the Anthony's doesn't speak first.I want them locked up!PERIOD... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
Thanks, JSM.  You are a sweet monkey like so many others here.  I will get back OT but I appreciate your kindness and understanding.  You are right--my family keeps telling me how proud they are of me, but I can't hear it right now.  Thanks for praying for the A's with me--I don't agree with their actions, but as far as I'm concerned, until the end, no one should be abandoned.
Blurry, if they say they are proud then they are. Don't listen to yourself listen to them. Please ask if Klaas can give you my email address. I would love for you to email me. Cindy will be fine, I'm not sure about poor George. He is the one I am worried about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:26:28 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


If the FBI has all this stuff and is investigating I'm thinking some Ant heads are gonna roll. Wondering if immunity would apply to FBI investigation for tampering with evidence or obstruction. Ants aren's just dealing with OCSO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
It has all become just a money making cover up for alot of people wanting to make money, and all at the exspence of a darling little girl......I can bet you one thing here and now...................with this many people in over their heads a leak is gonna come soon and everyone is going down!      well except for the one that is smart enough to talk now!    FBI im sure is getting alot straight right now!

I have felt for awhile that the FBI knows more about what is going on than the OCSD.  The FBI is not known for sharing.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 01, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
Thank-you Jerseygirl... can you figure out what that yellow thing is? ::MonkeyConfused::

After careful observation it looks as though foam insulation-Yellow waffle plastic covering the foam-JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 01, 2009, 05:28:49 PM
I know this is way off topic, but would any of you who pray please visit the prayer request thread in the monkey lounge? 

TIA. 

Your family is in my prayers.       Monkeys - please visit the monkey lounge - prayer request thread!!!!    Very Important.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 01, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


If the FBI has all this stuff and is investigating I'm thinking some Ant heads are gonna roll. Wondering if immunity would apply to FBI investigation for tampering with evidence or obstruction. Ants aren's just dealing with OCSO.

Yep,  and I am also getting disgusted with this delay in her funeral as it appears they are trying to put off being arrested because maybe LE is cutting them some slack til after Caylee's funeral


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     
Good thought, and who knows what else they took from Tony's apt, that Casey left there and is damaging.
yes   also I wouldnt be surprise if the LE isnt over at Lee's now vacant house before long either.,,,,,,,,,,
I'm curious why they haven't been there sooner, and why exactly Lee moved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 05:30:59 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


If the FBI has all this stuff and is investigating I'm thinking some Ant heads are gonna roll. Wondering if immunity would apply to FBI investigation for tampering with evidence or obstruction. Ants aren's just dealing with OCSO.

Yep,  and I am also getting disgusted with this delay in her funeral as it appears they are trying to put off being arrested because maybe LE is cutting them some slack til after Caylee's funeral

When was Caylee officially released for burial so to speak??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!
Crazy Joy is everywhere, maybe she should stay at home and take care of her kids. ::MonkeyConfused::



It is obvious that the Ants have had various people involved in perpetuating the Ant side of events and Joy Wray has made sure she was where the action is on multiple occasions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:36:35 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


If the FBI has all this stuff and is investigating I'm thinking some Ant heads are gonna roll. Wondering if immunity would apply to FBI investigation for tampering with evidence or obstruction. Ants aren's just dealing with OCSO.

Yep,  and I am also getting disgusted with this delay in her funeral as it appears they are trying to put off being arrested because maybe LE is cutting them some slack til after Caylee's funeral

When was Caylee officially released for burial so to speak??


Caylee Remains Released To Funeral Home
Public, Private Services To Be Held, Attorney Says

POSTED: Tuesday, December 23, 2008
UPDATED: 4:40 pm EST December 23, 2008

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18342912/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 05:37:18 PM
Does anyone know what times the specials that Nancy Grace is doing today?  I wanted to tivo them.  NG is supposedly having a two hour special just about the Caylee case today.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Don't Miss:
Two documentary specials with video and interviews you've never seen!

Thursday, January 1st at 8 & 10 PM ET
What happened the first 24 hours Caylee was reported missing? Nancy Grace dissects the timeline.

Friday, January 2nd at 8 & 10 PM ET
What happened the first month Caylee went missing? Nancy Grace pieces together the story.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 05:38:37 PM
You know, LE took things from Tony's appartment and   I wouldnt be surprised if they ALREADY have the roll of garbage bags that this particular bag came off from, also it woildnt SURPRISE me if the tape was also found there.....Remember this is where Casey was spending her time right after Caylee came up missing!     
Good thought, and who knows what else they took from Tony's apt, that Casey left there and is damaging.
yes   also I wouldnt be surprise if the LE isnt over at Lee's now vacant house before long either.,,,,,,,,,,
I'm curious why they haven't been there sooner, and why exactly Lee moved.
well  the best I can say it is......uhhh  people wont hide stuff if they dont know someones looking for it,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 01, 2009, 05:44:35 PM
Does anyone know what times the specials that Nancy Grace is doing today?  I wanted to tivo them.  NG is supposedly having a two hour special just about the Caylee case today.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Don't Miss:
Two documentary specials with video and interviews you've never seen!

Thursday, January 1st at 8 & 10 PM ET
What happened the first 24 hours Caylee was reported missing? Nancy Grace dissects the timeline.

Friday, January 2nd at 8 & 10 PM ET
What happened the first month Caylee went missing? Nancy Grace pieces together the story.







Thanks Bunches Klass ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 05:44:49 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

If LP is telling the truth and I have no reason not to believe him, this is a bombshell.  Sounds like they will definitely be charged with accessory after the fact


If the FBI has all this stuff and is investigating I'm thinking some Ant heads are gonna roll. Wondering if immunity would apply to FBI investigation for tampering with evidence or obstruction. Ants aren's just dealing with OCSO.

Yep,  and I am also getting disgusted with this delay in her funeral as it appears they are trying to put off being arrested because maybe LE is cutting them some slack til after Caylee's funeral

When was Caylee officially released for burial so to speak??


Caylee Remains Released To Funeral Home
Public, Private Services To Be Held, Attorney Says

POSTED: Tuesday, December 23, 2008
UPDATED: 4:40 pm EST December 23, 2008

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18342912/detail.html


So we're coming up close to 2 weeks and they still haven't laid her to rest?Wow.How unfortunate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
I wish LP would quit with the "she accidently gave Caylee too much chloroform" theory. Putting  your child to sleep forever with that stuff is in no way an accident. Besides that, I don't believe that is the way it happened anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: darla on January 01, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
Good Evening and Happy New Year to all Monkeys?
I have a question..... Is there anyway to watch NG on the internet. Not real savvy with computer. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 05:55:02 PM
I wish LP would quit with the "she accidently gave Caylee too much chloroform" theory. Putting  your child to sleep forever with that stuff is in no way an accident. Besides that, I don't believe that is the way it happened anyway.
I don't believe that either, how can you accidently give to much chloroform to someone, that makes no sense to me at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
Good Evening and Happy New Year to all Monkeys?
I have a question..... Is there anyway to watch NG on the internet. Not real savvy with computer. TIA

One of our members Willen Fan will usually provide a link where you can listen to it.  So you can check around showtime and see if she is around to provide that service. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 01, 2009, 05:58:22 PM
I wish LP would quit with the "she accidently gave Caylee too much chloroform" theory. Putting  your child to sleep forever with that stuff is in no way an accident. Besides that, I don't believe that is the way it happened anyway.

Amen sistah friend!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: darla on January 01, 2009, 06:00:38 PM
Thanks Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 01, 2009, 06:04:25 PM
I think everyone is taking their afternoon siesta :smt015 :smt015 :smt015


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
My heart breaks for Shirley, George and Caylee. Cindy, not so much. With your son, you can't just kick him to the curb, just like my mom couldn't do that to my brother. He wasn't a sociopath, he was just a crazy immature boy with a drug problem. You are a good person Wyks, cause you still love your child, but love your grandchild more!

That I do joesamas mama!  Thanks!   ::MonkeyWink::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 06:13:46 PM
This clears things up a little on Cnn Headline News, LP said he had conversation with D Casey on Dec 15 or 16, not in Nov. That is when the video was shown to LP. LP threw out the name of FBI agent Nick Savage, that he is aware of this video, and aware that LP saw the video.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
Marcus Hunt





 Aug 31 2008 9:09 AM

yeah casey and i used to work together! we've known eachother about 5 years now! she was the only one besides my family that was there for me during my ex fiancee and i's break up and when i broke my foot. Shes been a good friend and i'm astonished as to whats going on. Its hard on me right now i try not to pay attention to the news but its hard not to...you wanna put so much trust and faith in someone and thats why i'm trying to just trust God that everything is going to come out and work out for His good! 



Well  whoever this is, only has good things to say about Casey.  She must have fooled alot of people!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:19:27 PM
My heart breaks for Shirley, George and Caylee. Cindy, not so much. With your son, you can't just kick him to the curb, just like my mom couldn't do that to my brother. He wasn't a sociopath, he was just a crazy immature boy with a drug problem. You are a good person Wyks, cause you still love your child, but love your grandchild more!

That I do joesamas mama!  Thanks!   ::MonkeyWink::



No reason to thank me Wyks! It is you that should be thanked!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 01, 2009, 06:20:02 PM
Good Evening and Happy New Year to all Monkeys?
I have a question..... Is there anyway to watch NG on the internet. Not real savvy with computer. TIA

One of our members Willen Fan will usually provide a link where you can listen to it.  So you can check around showtime and see if she is around to provide that service. 

Happy New Year!

Willen reported yesterday or the day before that her microphone is broken and she can't stream Nancy Grace until she gets another one.  She wasn't sure when that would be.

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 06:23:24 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.

Thanks, always, for posting this.

Thank you so much to everyone for your prayers.  They are appreciated more than you know!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
Marcus Hunt





 Aug 31 2008 9:09 AM

yeah casey and i used to work together! we've known eachother about 5 years now! she was the only one besides my family that was there for me during my ex fiancee and i's break up and when i broke my foot. Shes been a good friend and i'm astonished as to whats going on. Its hard on me right now i try not to pay attention to the news but its hard not to...you wanna put so much trust and faith in someone and thats why i'm trying to just trust God that everything is going to come out and work out for His good! 



Well  whoever this is, only has good things to say about Casey.  She must have fooled alot of people!
Exactly she must have fooled a LOT of people. I cannot critique his grammar because my syntax, grammar, spelling, et al is horrible. BUT he put a lot of faith in this old lady. He capitalized His in his last sentece. I hate people that correct my grammar, so I wanted to give this kid props! Good job Marcus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 06:25:16 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.


Thanks.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:25:40 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.

Thanks, always, for posting this.

Thank you so much to everyone for your prayers.  They are appreciated more than you know!!

I am so thankful she is okay. I prayed for her and lit a candle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 06:27:32 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.

Thanks, always, for posting this.

Thank you so much to everyone for your prayers.  They are appreciated more than you know!!

I am so thankful she is okay. I prayed for her and lit a candle.
I am glad she is okay also, how scary for everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 01, 2009, 06:27:46 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 06:28:12 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: Oh my word!



Fair and Balanced, just like BO says, lol.

Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Sea Searcher, no this is not a joke, this is how Red's comment was edited. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 06:32:34 PM
Sea Searcher, no this is not a joke, this is how Red's comment was edited. ::MonkeyEek::

'Tis true.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: Oh my word!



Fair and Balanced, just like BO says, lol.

Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::
Hey SS I asked Red what he thought about Fox News paying for the defense of Casey. I never heard back from him, so maybe that is my answer. I would have never thought Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ayles would stoop so low for a story line. I guess my heart is broken once again. PLEEEAAASSEE Cuddly BEARy. Don't break my heart too. Arrest at least Lee tonight before I go to bed! Cindy, I can wait until after Tech beats Ole Miss in the Cotton bowl. HUGS CUDDLY ONE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 06:37:36 PM
Sea Searcher, no this is not a joke, this is how Red's comment was edited. ::MonkeyEek::

'Tis true.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW....I think someone should email both versions to NG.. in case she needs some material tonight  ::MonkeyTongue::

Not surprised tho...I gave up on Greta long ago  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 06:41:07 PM
Marcus Hunt





 Aug 31 2008 9:09 AM

yeah casey and i used to work together! we've known eachother about 5 years now! she was the only one besides my family that was there for me during my ex fiancee and i's break up and when i broke my foot. Shes been a good friend and i'm astonished as to whats going on. Its hard on me right now i try not to pay attention to the news but its hard not to...you wanna put so much trust and faith in someone and thats why i'm trying to just trust God that everything is going to come out and work out for His good! 



Well  whoever this is, only has good things to say about Casey.  She must have fooled alot of people!

Marcus's current fiance:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=17154421

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/l_210c35ca3de4ae9a391d7456169fc187.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/CaseyHunt.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 06:42:56 PM
Sea Searcher, no this is not a joke, this is how Red's comment was edited. ::MonkeyEek::

'Tis true.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW....I think someone should email both versions to NG.. in case she needs some material tonight  ::MonkeyTongue::

Not surprised tho...I gave up on Greta long ago  ::MonkeyConfused::


I don't have anything for Greta anymore either.After the last Joran interview,I was disgusted.Red could probably send another comment...but we'd never see it unless he posted it here.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
This clears things up a little on Cnn Headline News, LP said he had conversation with D Casey on Dec 15 or 16, not in Nov. That is when the video was shown to LP. LP threw out the name of FBI agent Nick Savage, that he is aware of this video, and aware that LP saw the video.

My take was that he was shown the video in December, but it was actually taken in November.  I could be wrong..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 06:47:54 PM
This clears things up a little on Cnn Headline News, LP said he had conversation with D Casey on Dec 15 or 16, not in Nov. That is when the video was shown to LP. LP threw out the name of FBI agent Nick Savage, that he is aware of this video, and aware that LP saw the video.

My take was that he was shown the video in December, but it was actually taken in November.  I could be wrong..
Yes you are right. Some people were saying why didn't LP go to LE when shown it in November, but it was shown to him in December after Caylee's remains were found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 06:50:16 PM

Hey SS I asked Red what he thought about Fox News paying for the defense of Casey. I never heard back from him, so maybe that is my answer. I would have never thought Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ayles would stoop so low for a story line. I guess my heart is broken once again. PLEEEAAASSEE Cuddly BEARy. Don't break my heart too. Arrest at least Lee tonight before I go to bed! Cindy, I can wait until after Tech beats Ole Miss in the Cotton bowl. HUGS CUDDLY ONE
[/quote]

You may be right...I wouldn't put it past the media to do that.. someone said whoever is paying for this, will eventually come out so we'll see.

I wouldn't worry too much about Bearly Beary...I don't think he's in anyones pocket and has done an excellent job thus far...IMO  Don't know if he'll do any arresting tonight tho, but you never know  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BTW Klaas...there's a new Globe on the shelf if you're looking for something to read and scan  ::MonkeyWink::
I couldn't buy it tho..it didn't have a plastic wrapper on it   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 01, 2009, 06:50:27 PM
This clears things up a little on Cnn Headline News, LP said he had conversation with D Casey on Dec 15 or 16, not in Nov. That is when the video was shown to LP. LP threw out the name of FBI agent Nick Savage, that he is aware of this video, and aware that LP saw the video.

My take was that he was shown the video in December, but it was actually taken in November.  I could be wrong..
Yes you are right. Some people were saying why didn't LP go to LE when shown it in November, but it was shown to him in December after Caylee's remains were found.

I know some are theorizing that he knew before he searched the Econ, but I don't see why he would have done that had he known? Now it might explain why he never did make it back out to search between then and when she was found.. he was supposedly gathering up donations for the search efforts.   :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 06:50:28 PM
This clears things up a little on Cnn Headline News, LP said he had conversation with D Casey on Dec 15 or 16, not in Nov. That is when the video was shown to LP. LP threw out the name of FBI agent Nick Savage, that he is aware of this video, and aware that LP saw the video.

My take was that he was shown the video in December, but it was actually taken in November.  I could be wrong..
Yes you are right. Some people were saying why didn't LP go to LE when shown it in November, but it was shown to him in December after Caylee's remains were found.
[/quote


My brain hurts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:50:33 PM
Marcus Hunt





 Aug 31 2008 9:09 AM

yeah casey and i used to work together! we've known eachother about 5 years now! she was the only one besides my family that was there for me during my ex fiancee and i's break up and when i broke my foot. Shes been a good friend and i'm astonished as to whats going on. Its hard on me right now i try not to pay attention to the news but its hard not to...you wanna put so much trust and faith in someone and thats why i'm trying to just trust God that everything is going to come out and work out for His good! 



Well  whoever this is, only has good things to say about Casey.  She must have fooled alot of people!

Marcus's current fiance:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=17154421

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/l_210c35ca3de4ae9a391d7456169fc187.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/CaseyHunt.jpg)
Oh my word.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 01, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
Does Casey have a little head or is the other persons head huge? I know Casey has big teeth, but her head looks small next to that woman. I normally do not make fun of how people look, lol........sorry. AND PLEASE/////no comments on the 'head' part  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 06:51:25 PM

Hey SS I asked Red what he thought about Fox News paying for the defense of Casey. I never heard back from him, so maybe that is my answer. I would have never thought Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ayles would stoop so low for a story line. I guess my heart is broken once again. PLEEEAAASSEE Cuddly BEARy. Don't break my heart too. Arrest at least Lee tonight before I go to bed! Cindy, I can wait until after Tech beats Ole Miss in the Cotton bowl. HUGS CUDDLY ONE

You may be right...I wouldn't put it past the media to do that.. someone said whoever is paying for this, will eventually come out so we'll see.

I wouldn't worry too much about Bearly Beary...I don't think he's in anyones pocket and has done an excellent job thus far...IMO  Don't know if he'll do any arresting tonight tho, but you never know  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BTW Klaas...there's a new Globe on the shelf if you're looking for something to read and scan  ::MonkeyWink::
I couldn't buy it tho..it didn't have a plastic wrapper on it   ::MonkeyRoll::
[/quote]Hee hee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 06:51:29 PM
O/t They found Flossy's neice.  Thank you all for your prayers.
Wonderful news.  Thanks for letting us know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 06:53:42 PM

Hey SS I asked Red what he thought about Fox News paying for the defense of Casey. I never heard back from him, so maybe that is my answer. I would have never thought Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ayles would stoop so low for a story line. I guess my heart is broken once again. PLEEEAAASSEE Cuddly BEARy. Don't break my heart too. Arrest at least Lee tonight before I go to bed! Cindy, I can wait until after Tech beats Ole Miss in the Cotton bowl. HUGS CUDDLY ONE

You may be right...I wouldn't put it past the media to do that.. someone said whoever is paying for this, will eventually come out so we'll see.

I wouldn't worry too much about Bearly Beary...I don't think he's in anyones pocket and has done an excellent job thus far...IMO  Don't know if he'll do any arresting tonight tho, but you never know  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BTW Klaas...there's a new Globe on the shelf if you're looking for something to read and scan  ::MonkeyWink::
I couldn't buy it tho..it didn't have a plastic wrapper on it   ::MonkeyRoll::
[/quote]  ::MonkeyShocked:: I would never think he was anyone's pockets SS, I just wanted to give him a pizza if he read this post. I wouldn't do anything underhanded like payola  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
Who in the heck is Marcus??  I keep trying to find where he first came up and I can't find it.   Is he the crazy dude with the big white glasses who was bawling on their lawn? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:20:36 PM
Does Casey have a little head or is the other persons head huge? I know Casey has big teeth, but her head looks small next to that woman. I normally do not make fun of how people look, lol........sorry. AND PLEASE/////no comments on the 'head' part  ::MonkeyHaHa::


  :smt082  :rabbit:  :2rofl:  I got nothing.  ::MonkeyHaHa::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 07:20:36 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:22:18 PM

Hey SS I asked Red what he thought about Fox News paying for the defense of Casey. I never heard back from him, so maybe that is my answer. I would have never thought Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ayles would stoop so low for a story line. I guess my heart is broken once again. PLEEEAAASSEE Cuddly BEARy. Don't break my heart too. Arrest at least Lee tonight before I go to bed! Cindy, I can wait until after Tech beats Ole Miss in the Cotton bowl. HUGS CUDDLY ONE

You may be right...I wouldn't put it past the media to do that.. someone said whoever is paying for this, will eventually come out so we'll see.

I wouldn't worry too much about Bearly Beary...I don't think he's in anyones pocket and has done an excellent job thus far...IMO  Don't know if he'll do any arresting tonight tho, but you never know  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BTW Klaas...there's a new Globe on the shelf if you're looking for something to read and scan  ::MonkeyWink::
I couldn't buy it tho..it didn't have a plastic wrapper on it   ::MonkeyRoll::
Hee hee
[/quote


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:25:03 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I can send more whiskey and honey for you.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 01, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
Well it wouldn't surprise me if some media outlet was paying towards the defense and possibly others. I don't think it is just one adding to the defense $$$. It makes sense the media would benefit from this story never going away. If it makes it to trail it is going to be a long one.

Someone earlier today mentioned with the PI's filming out there and the meter reader just happens to find the body that maybe he overheard it. Well that is really a good thought.
Maybe the A's were in the backyard talking or on the phone back there and something was mentioned and he was there to read their meter on the side of the house and overheard? That might be why he got a lawyer not just to prove he wasn't involved but he overheard the info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 01, 2009, 07:29:08 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can send more whiskey and honey for you.  ::MonkeyCool::
OK. I love you Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JodyO on January 01, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 07:36:00 PM
Thank-you Jerseygirl... can you figure out what that yellow thing is? ::MonkeyConfused::

After careful observation it looks as though foam insulation-Yellow waffle plastic covering the foam-JMO

I agree with you Jerseygirl...that's what I thought at first but I don't have any good photo software to enlarge pics...Thank You !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 01, 2009, 07:44:01 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Designated Poster!!That is funny!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: Happy New Year! How are you doing? Better,I hope.

We had power outages and it just came on but is flickering. Don't worry,I have a generator but,My hubby says to NOT use the computer on that.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Not sure why.  I just had to check up on you and the gang.  Tell Trimmonthelake I send my best. I have to power down. I hope this gets through.

Yeah Flossy...That news must be a huge relief for you. Thank God.

I'll see you in the morning. Maybe things will be better here. The wind has died down. Going to watch NG tonight. It's a special show but,it might just be a repeat of the Thanksgiving Special. I'm not sure.

Love to you all...Jan


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 07:51:18 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Mary on January 01, 2009, 07:53:29 PM
I thought there was only 1 Cindy but I read and listened to Diane Downs parole
hearing from Dec 9 and she goes on and on and makes no sense. Its a interesting
read. Just google her and you will get it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 07:54:13 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.
::MonkeyShocked:: oh no.......I hope they dont get it then!!!!!NO WAY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 07:54:52 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Designated Poster!!That is funny!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: Happy New Year! How are you doing? Better,I hope.

We had power outages and it just came on but is flickering. Don't worry,I have a generator but,My hubby says to NOT use the computer on that.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Not sure why.  I just had to check up on you and the gang.  Tell Trimmonthelake I send my best. I have to power down. I hope this gets through.

Yeah Flossy...That news must be a huge relief for you. Thank God.

I'll see you in the morning. Maybe things will be better here. The wind has died down. Going to watch NG tonight. It's a special show but,it might just be a repeat of the Thanksgiving Special. I'm not sure.

Love to you all...Jan


See ya in the morning.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 01, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

Yes, it sounds very plausible.  The A's, if given immunity, will also be able to cash in on all the money that is to be made off of this sad story. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 01, 2009, 07:56:59 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

So they can get a "blanket" immunity?  Like, sight unseen, the DA will give them immunity from prosecution for WHATEVER?  I thought they could get immunity for what they did to aid and abet Casey, but, if it came out that they COULD have done something outside the scope of the immunity, they could still be charged with that.

Oh, Lord.  Am I making any sense at all?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 07:57:16 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

Wouldn't put it past them.NO IMMUNITY.Put em on the stand with all the evidence against Casey.In all seriousness the Anthony's may not make it to trial w/o security..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 01, 2009, 07:57:29 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.
I don't watch Greta but have looked up things that refer me back to her website. I remember her from years ago but I don't like Fox news that much anyway...at least not the channel on cable. Greta just is trying to be the big dog and keep quite about her affiliation with Scientology and how heavy she and her hubby are in it. The accountant for her and her husbands law firm that works out of Clearwater, FL is the mother of the head of Scientology Church.

I am not surprised of the "rewriting" of Red's comment. She stays away from negative about herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 01, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
Red, that is probably the truth! They have already given up on justice for Caylee to try and save Crazy from the consequences of her actions. Using Mark Klass' adjective, they are "odious" people.. just despicable


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.
I don't watch Greta but have looked up things that refer me back to her website. I remember her from years ago but I don't like Fox news that much anyway...at least not the channel on cable. Greta just is trying to be the big dog and keep quite about her affiliation with Scientology and how heavy she and her hubby are in it. The accountant for her and her husbands law firm that works out of Clearwater, FL is the mother of the head of Scientology Church.

I am not surprised of the "rewriting" of Red's comment. She stays away from negative about herself.
  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Never heard she is Scientologist.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:11:56 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.
I don't watch Greta but have looked up things that refer me back to her website. I remember her from years ago but I don't like Fox news that much anyway...at least not the channel on cable. Greta just is trying to be the big dog and keep quite about her affiliation with Scientology and how heavy she and her hubby are in it. The accountant for her and her husbands law firm that works out of Clearwater, FL is the mother of the head of Scientology Church.

I am not surprised of the "rewriting" of Red's comment. She stays away from negative about herself.
  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Never heard she is Scientologist.
Sh*t I thought she was from Wisconsin. I didn't know they had those up there.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 08:16:04 PM
Red, I am shocked! ::MonkeyEek::

I thought Greta loved you and the monkeys and she was on our side of the fence.  I missed her as she comes on so late.  I have to get up so early to go to work.  When working on Natalee Holloway case, she couldn't be nicer I thought.  Have I missed a lot of something with her?  What about Nancy Grace?  I like Nancy because she has GUTS and she can bring it to the front page in a hurry.  She can be a little rude sometimes, but her attributes in the legal world far outweigh her downfalls.   Red, I appreciate all that you have done to keep this going.  You know I have been around for years and I cannot say enough good things about you and SM.  Thanks for all your hard work and all those who work with you in keeping SM in the know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 08:16:15 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------

WTF please tell me you are joking!! ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 08:19:22 PM
Conway also said the Anthony's will turn over any evidence even if it is damaging to their daughter. I'd love to know what evidence they have been witholding?

yes these loving parents are ready to tell all as long as they get immunity...............I hope to hell they don't get immunity!!  I'd love to see the whole frigging clan in prison


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:20:51 PM
JSM, yes Greta is from Wisconsin, my mothers uncle and aunt were lawyers, they knew Greta's dad very well, Greta and her dad, would visit my mom's uncle and aunt's horse ranch where we would go several times a year, they all belonged to the country club that was close by. They were lawyers, and if I'm not mistaken Greta's dad was a judge. And yes there are Scientologists world wide, and I'm sure she does not broadcast to loudly that she and her husband are Scientologists. Joe is looking super cute tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 01, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

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Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


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HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.
I don't watch Greta but have looked up things that refer me back to her website. I remember her from years ago but I don't like Fox news that much anyway...at least not the channel on cable. Greta just is trying to be the big dog and keep quite about her affiliation with Scientology and how heavy she and her hubby are in it. The accountant for her and her husbands law firm that works out of Clearwater, FL is the mother of the head of Scientology Church.

I am not surprised of the "rewriting" of Red's comment. She stays away from negative about herself.
  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Never heard she is Scientologist.
Sh*t I thought she was from Wisconsin. I didn't know they had those up there.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Big time invovled. Here are a few links.....
http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html (http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html)

http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren (http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


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 ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

I'll say!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 01, 2009, 08:24:26 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

Makes sense Red but I sure hope you are wrong on this one.  Seeing them walk (including KC) would be the ultimate injustice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 01, 2009, 08:28:48 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna listen to NG while I play games with my little buddy.
Maybe tommorrow Joesamas wish will come true and somebody will be hauled off by the PoPos.  ::MonkeyDance::
Everybody stay safe and warm. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 08:29:10 PM
Does anyone remember when Jose was asking the Court for permission to accompany Casey to different locations and the probation officer or whatever was on the stand saying that would be difficult to monitor?  What month was that ????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:31:46 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna listen to NG while I play games with my little buddy.
Maybe tommorrow Joesamas wish will come true and somebody will be hauled off by the PoPos.  ::MonkeyDance::
Everybody stay safe and warm. ::MonkeyCool::
Good Night have fun playing games.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
Does anyone remember when Jose was asking the Court for permission to accompany Casey to different locations and the probation officer or whatever was on the stand saying that would be difficult to monitor?  What month was that ????
I think the early part of October.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
Does anyone remember when Jose was asking the Court for permission to accompany Casey to different locations and the probation officer or whatever was on the stand saying that would be difficult to monitor?  What month was that ????


Looks like October:

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State and county opposes request

posted by Sarah Lundy on Oct 10, 2008 11:17:11 AM
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The county opposes the motion. It's too vague. It's basically a request to be removed from home confinement, says county assistant attorney Tamara Gappen.

Prosecutor says it appears that Baez is asking the court to trust him and the bondsman that she will abide by the home confinement. Drane-Burdick points out that Casey hasn't even asked to go anywhere other than her attorney's office. He appears he wants to conduct this in secret and the state opposes it.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:35:39 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

Makes sense Red but I sure hope you are wrong on this one.  Seeing them walk (including KC) would be the ultimate injustice for Caylee.

If Caylee's remains had not been found, I might think that immunity was possible..but that's a big might... now that her remains have been found, along with even more evidence, there's no reason for the A's to be granted immunity, they have nothing to offer the prosecution...they already had enough to prosecute before Dec 11......

 JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:37:14 PM
JSM, yes Greta is from Wisconsin, my mothers uncle and aunt were lawyers, they knew Greta's dad very well, Greta and her dad, would visit my mom's uncle and aunt's horse ranch where we would go several times a year, they all belonged to the country club that was close by. They were lawyers, and if I'm not mistaken Greta's dad was a judge. And yes there are Scientologists world wide, and I'm sure she does not broadcast to loudly that she and her husband are Scientologists. Joe is looking super cute tonight.
Thanks No Rose. I knew she came from a big lawyer family, but I didn't know about the Scientology angle. Thanks for saying Joe looks cute. He was jumping up at the daycare window when I took that. He is crazy, but I love him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 08:37:30 PM
I second JSM--congrats Karen and Nut.  Wyks, what is your gut feeling (I can't believe I just typed that)? Do you think Casey was born or made?  And here's a thought--if Casey has indeed been a problem child from the beginning, could she in turn have created changes in Cindy?  Sorry to drag this issue through the mud today, monkeys, but it has a lot of personal relevance.

Personally, I think in regard to Casey possibly being a sociopath, for the most part she was 'born', and in regard to her possibly being a malignant narcissist, for the most part she was 'made'.  The combination of these can be quite deadly, as we have seen.  And I think the two of them, Cindy and Casey, very likely set each other off.  Seems they compete for being top dog in that home, while at the same time, trade off being the abuser and the victim.  So, in one sense, yes, they do create changes in each other, one seemingly needing to one-up the other.  Yet I don't think that Casey made Cindy into what she is today, quite the opposite.  Hope that answers your questions. 

I'm not a psych doc, am one step from that.  So I hope the psych docs in here will give their esteemed opinions.   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:38:42 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

-------------------

Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


---------------------------------


HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.
I don't watch Greta but have looked up things that refer me back to her website. I remember her from years ago but I don't like Fox news that much anyway...at least not the channel on cable. Greta just is trying to be the big dog and keep quite about her affiliation with Scientology and how heavy she and her hubby are in it. The accountant for her and her husbands law firm that works out of Clearwater, FL is the mother of the head of Scientology Church.

I am not surprised of the "rewriting" of Red's comment. She stays away from negative about herself.
  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Never heard she is Scientologist.
Sh*t I thought she was from Wisconsin. I didn't know they had those up there.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Big time invovled. Here are a few links.....
http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html (http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html)

http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren (http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren)
Wow. I will check them out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 08:41:04 PM
Jose filed a motion for defendant to travel to places of interest.  The certificate of service on the motion is October 3.  When did the private investigators, according to LP, have knowledge that Caylee was deceased in the woods?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 01, 2009, 08:42:50 PM
Does anyone remember when Jose was asking the Court for permission to accompany Casey to different locations and the probation officer or whatever was on the stand saying that would be difficult to monitor?  What month was that ????
I think the early part of October.

thanks - you have a great memory.  Me, not so much.  I wonder if they wanted to visit those woods way back then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna listen to NG while I play games with my little buddy.
Maybe tommorrow Joesamas wish will come true and somebody will be hauled off by the PoPos.  ::MonkeyDance::
Everybody stay safe and warm. ::MonkeyCool::
Good Night have fun playing games.

good night no rose


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:44:09 PM
JSM is going to bed now. I hope that my good friend Sheriff Beary remembers the words of JSM.

Please good Sheriff Beary, please, please arrest Cindy, Lee and possibly George. I really believe if you arrest them, they WILL talk. I have pizza waiting to be delivered. Sorry JSM is very tired and sleepy tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 08:44:57 PM
more than likely Jose wanted to visit the local Motel * with Casey.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:46:44 PM
Does anyone remember when Jose was asking the Court for permission to accompany Casey to different locations and the probation officer or whatever was on the stand saying that would be difficult to monitor?  What month was that ????
I think the early part of October.

thanks - you have a great memory.  Me, not so much.  I wonder if they wanted to visit those woods way back then.
Once in a while my memory is okay, but not very often. I am going to guess yes, they were going to check those woods out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:48:22 PM
JSM is going to bed now. I hope that my good friend Sheriff Beary remembers the words of JSM.

Please good Sheriff Beary, please, please arrest Cindy, Lee and possibly George. I really believe if you arrest them, they WILL talk. I have pizza waiting to be delivered. Sorry JSM is very tired and sleepy tonight.
Good Night to you and Joe. I have a feeling your wish will come true, I hope we don't have to wait to long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:49:27 PM
Nite Monkeys. It has been a hard day for me. If you were here last night, please pray for those girls that I told you about. Sorry O/T. Good night. JSM Peace out! Hugs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 08:49:40 PM
more than likely Jose wanted to visit the local Motel * with Casey.....
I still would like to know what was really going on six hours a day at his office. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
I believe that since it is the first of the year and the Holliday season is past us now, We can look for something to come down in this case within the next few days,       Im sure it has to do with Lee to,   and thats when the crap is gonna hit the fan!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:50:22 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna listen to NG while I play games with my little buddy.
Maybe tommorrow Joesamas wish will come true and somebody will be hauled off by the PoPos.  ::MonkeyDance::
Everybody stay safe and warm. ::MonkeyCool::

Good Night Trimm !!

I'll get the coffee brewin' early if you start cookin' the omelets...no pop tarts please

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: kitkat53 on January 01, 2009, 08:51:08 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:51:12 PM
more than likely Jose wanted to visit the local Motel * with Casey.....
Ewwwwwwwwwwww


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:52:04 PM
JSM is going to bed now. I hope that my good friend Sheriff Beary remembers the words of JSM.

Please good Sheriff Beary, please, please arrest Cindy, Lee and possibly George. I really believe if you arrest them, they WILL talk. I have pizza waiting to be delivered. Sorry JSM is very tired and sleepy tonight.
Good Night to you and Joe. I have a feeling your wish will come true, I hope we don't have to wait to long.
I hope too No Rose. Kiss Zoe for me and Josef. She is beautiful


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 08:52:21 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gonna listen to NG while I play games with my little buddy.
Maybe tommorrow Joesamas wish will come true and somebody will be hauled off by the PoPos.  ::MonkeyDance::
Everybody stay safe and warm. ::MonkeyCool::
Good Night have fun playing games.

good night no rose

OOPS ! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Monkeys/sshatdunce.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:54:48 PM
I believe that since it is the first of the year and the Holliday season is past us now, We can look for something to come down in this case within the next few days,       Im sure it has to do with Lee to,   and thats when the crap is gonna hit the fan!
  ::MonkeyDance:: I hope so HH!!!! I have a BIG Pizza ready to be delivered for Sheriff Beary! If I he isn't there, I will send a pizza to the Sheriff's Department!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 08:55:03 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.

Welcome KitKat!  Are you watching the Nancy Grace special?  It's interresting because it's going back to the beginning so you remember things forgotten.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 08:55:57 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.

Welcome to Scared Monkeys.  You are gonna love it here.  I have been here for years.  I read a lot and have to work a lot so very little time to post, but I love it.  We used to have a lot of trolls, but not so many now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 08:58:35 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.
Welcome KitKat, I don't know the answers to you questions, but I am glad you are here! I love kitkat candy bars. Just kidding. No really, she had them going at first, but she took them to Universal. The SAW here lies then and there once she confessed. She is a LIAR! Glad you are here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 08:59:21 PM
Thanks, JSM.  I tend to be something like the difficult child in the family, and today my heart is breaking that I might have damaged loved ones even more than I thought.  I pray that the new year will be one to make them proud of me.

I hope the A's can repair a relationship which seems very codependent to me, can sort out this mess, and can do the right thing by precious Caylee.

ahhh blurry.  http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif

i hope this new year you will be proud of yourself.  i don't know your circumstances, yet do believe that many of us, by the time we reach adulthood, if our loved aren't proud of us, the problem is very often with them, not us. 

there simply are people we can never please, can never be good enough for.  and in that case, we need to quit trying. 

if that's what is going on for you, then i gently suggest taking a good long look at who you are.. today.. not who/what you are not 'in their eyes', but who/what you are, in your own. 

if you like what you see in yourself, then step forward, doing what you want with your own life.  if you don't like what you see in yourself, then just hot-foot it to your nearest therapist and see what the two of you can do about making some changes for the better.  not based on what your loved ones may or may not like etc. but based on what you want for your own life.  hope that makes sense.  and i do wish you well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 08:59:40 PM
I believe that since it is the first of the year and the Holliday season is past us now, We can look for something to come down in this case within the next few days,       Im sure it has to do with Lee to,   and thats when the crap is gonna hit the fan!
  ::MonkeyDance:: I hope so HH!!!! I have a BIG Pizza ready to be delivered for Sheriff Beary! If I he isn't there, I will send a pizza to the Sheriff's Department!  ::MonkeyDance::
Ill order another one if that one isnt enough, if they would just go ahead and make a move!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 01, 2009, 09:00:17 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 09:00:46 PM





                                   
    WELCOME KITKAT!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:03:50 PM
I'm just shaking my head over the severly edited comment Red left for Greta, now I'm wondering how many comments get this kind of editing? ::MonkeyEek::

I posted some negative comments an hour ago and they haven't been displayed -  yet-  ?why

this is huge...

for as many folks who read greta on a daily basis... omg. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 09:06:37 PM
I believe that since it is the first of the year and the Holliday season is past us now, We can look for something to come down in this case within the next few days,       Im sure it has to do with Lee to,   and thats when the crap is gonna hit the fan!
  ::MonkeyDance:: I hope so HH!!!! I have a BIG Pizza ready to be delivered for Sheriff Beary! If I he isn't there, I will send a pizza to the Sheriff's Department!  ::MonkeyDance::
Ill order another one if that one isnt enough, if they would just go ahead and make a move!
I'll get one for cuddly BEARy and the other police guys too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



I'm sorry, I just see drywall everywhere it seems.  lol  This looks to me like drywall covered with some yellow stuff. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
I believe that since it is the first of the year and the Holliday season is past us now, We can look for something to come down in this case within the next few days,       Im sure it has to do with Lee to,   and thats when the crap is gonna hit the fan!
I can't wait, I can feel something is going to break wide open. I hope we hear more about these videos, and who knew what and when. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 09:11:44 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



I'm sorry, I just see drywall everywhere it seems.  lol  This looks to me like drywall covered with some yellow stuff. 

Wyks it looks like drywall covered by tissue paper because it is kind of ripped. If it wasn't ripped I would think it was a cheap raincoat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:12:23 PM
OMG ... I leave for the airport and look what happens!

#1  Flossy ~ I'm so thankful your niece is okay ~
#2  I live with FOX on in the background every day of my life ... I can't believe they would be paying for the Anthony's defense ... but, I've been wrong before.
#3  Greta ... well, I can't defend Greta.
#4  The pics from Lee's yard ... I thought that the object that some thought was a computer or speaker ... was one of those utility boxes that most all people have somewhere in their yards (usually people try to cover them up with shrubery)
#5  Welcome Kitkat ... and any other new Monkey I may have missed.
#6  Lastly, I am so thankful that LP threw out Savage's name (you go jj!  He is a good cowboy!)  ... that gives his story some ligitimate value to me.

Okie Doke ... all done now!  Whew!

Hi Monkeys ... I missed you ... Big Monkey Smooch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 01, 2009, 09:13:01 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am truly going to bed now.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 09:14:09 PM
Welcome KitKat  ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 09:15:04 PM
Wyks it looks like drywall covered by tissue paper because it is kind of ripped. If it wasn't ripped I would think it was a cheap raincoat. <snipped>


   I was gonna say something about this earlier because I saw one of Caseys friends my space page today, I think it was Kristina's   and her a daughter was at universal riding rides and they had one of those plastice cover up things that they give you when you ride the water rides and it was way big and looked just like this plastic thing here....same color and all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 01, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
Looks like Greta is staying true to form in defending the appalling Ant's......

January 1st, 2009 8:20 AM Eastern
Caylee Anthony: Don’t be surprised by this !
by Greta Van Susteren
The article contents below will scandalize many….but asking for immunity - even by the innocent - is routine.  The grandparents’ lawyer would be committing legal malpractice if he did not ask that his clients get immunity.  This does NOT mean the grandparents have done anything wrong at all — but a lawyer asks for immunity out of an abundance of caution.  Sometimes you run into the situation where a law enforcement officer thinks he was lied to when the law enforcement officer’s memory is simply faulty or he got it wrong what was said to him…and you all know how easy it is to get an indictment! I don’t know if the grandparents have committed any crime — I will give them the presumption of innocence — and I do know that it is routine for a lawyer to do all that he can to protect a client. Of course if they have committed a crime, you can see why they would want immunity….but the bottom line is this: just because you ask for immunity does not mean you did something wrong.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/01/caylee-anthony-dont-be-surprised-by-this/

Whatever Greta!Immunity for telling the TRUTH in the murder of your grandchild??Again.i'll say it.SICK,SICK,SICK

Greta also believed URINE!  No wonder she doesn't practice law anymore....she through her clients under the bus!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Unless I am missing it, looks like Greta cencored my comment there. What's that matter toots, can't handle criticism? Especially when you are 100% wrong.

I just checked Greta's web site and here is your comment from that web site (it looks like you were severely edited!):

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Comment by Red
January 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if this gets posted.

Greta is 100% right as she always is. Greta never gets anything wrong.


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HOLY IMMUNITY BATMAN!!! ::MonkeyShocked::
I thought you were joking, I laughed and said to myself what a good joke, wish I thought of it. Then I went and looked and it was TRUE!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think Greta has lost her mind.. Maybe it's time for Kimberly Guilfoyle to move into Greta's spot at 10 pm...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Personally, I'd prefer an hour with a "test pattern" and some "snow" to Greta at 10 pm. As for Whorealdo, just a black screen with no sound would be preferable to him.

Yes, my post on Greta's site was sarcasm. Seeing that they cencored my comment where I criticized her stupid opinin and did not post it. Nice friggin site Greta. God forbid you be shown to be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:17:04 PM
OMG .. I'm watching the First 48 ... murderer steals victim's credit/debit card ... goes to Target!  What is it with Target that appeals to murderers?!!

(BTW ... I love target ... and I have murdered no one!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 01, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am truly going to bed now.  ::MonkeyWaa::
awww   nite ....and kiss Joe for me......have a good nights sleep amd Ill see u tomorrow sometimes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 09:18:04 PM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 09:18:40 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.
Welcome KitKat......Put a kitkat in your mouth and get a bang out of life!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.
Welcome KitKat......Put a kitkat in your mouth and get a bang out of life!!!!
Oh A1 ... you know SS is gonna read that right?  and his whole thing with kitties?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:22:18 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

Hell with Immunity for the Anthony's.I think others will nail their coffin shut.They better start speaking to minimize the consequences.Which Anthony will speak first???? ::MonkeyDance::

I got my lunch money on George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.


Your senario makes a lot of sense and is quite possibly what the Ants are after. All their inconsistencies and obnoxious behavior make sense when viewed as a way to cast doubt on themselves and thus take it off of KC. My hope is that LE is ready for this type of deviousness because if KC and her parents all get off, I will believe there was an LE conspiracy involved as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:24:15 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

Hell with Immunity for the Anthony's.I think others will nail their coffin shut.They better start speaking to minimize the consequences.Which Anthony will speak first???? ::MonkeyDance::

I got my lunch money on George.

I'll bet on George too!  (of course, like Boo, I'd like Leroy to cover my bet!) ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 09:25:26 PM
I want to say something about the phone calls on the cellphone.  One time, a friend brought over an illegal scanner and we listened to it and heard all sorts of cellphone calls that were in the area.  I understand this scanner in an automobile can pick up your call if the scanner is near you.  I say this because I cannot get it out of my mind about all the pings on Casey's phone when she was driving around.  Is this how information was found about the location of Caylee?  Is there a scanner like this still being used by LE?  I am not in the know anymore.  I do know there are all sorts of spy equipment out there and if this was my granddaughter or daughter missing, I would stop at nothing to find her or just what someone may know about the case.  I would not care if this is legal or not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 01, 2009, 09:27:45 PM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?
According to LP today on CNN Headline News, LP was not told about the video until Dec 15 or 16, after Caylee's remains were found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:30:34 PM
Hi Monkeys...I just got in from shopping, trying to catch up...Is this a Joke ????

Has Boo been sneaking sips from granny's jug again ?  ::MonkeyRoll::

HEY! I warned you guys early on I would NOT be responsible for my later posts! I was given medication and a special prize, which I took full advantage of!!! I just needed a designated poster, which none of you volunteered for!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 09:32:17 PM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?
According to LP today on CNN Headline News, LP was not told about the video until Dec 15 or 16, after Caylee's remains were found.

That would be a real bummer if they have sat on information and left that baby out in the woods like that.  If that is the case, someone needs to fry.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 09:32:56 PM
Good Evening Monkeys, and Happy New Year!

I have been gone nearly 5 days and I see that I am very behind.  I caught a little bit of NG a few nights ago, and could someone please tell me what the the heck is going on with LP and Dominic Casey?  I knew that Dominic Casey was one shady creep.  And it seems my feelings are on target.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 09:33:19 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.
Welcome KitKat......Put a kitkat in your mouth and get a bang out of life!!!!
Oh A1 ... you know SS is gonna read that right?  and his whole thing with kitties?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::
Sorry, Kitkat, I always liked commerical.  The dectectives did their job by questioning Casey and finding out she didnt tell the truth about one way.  After that, it is really up to the prosecutor to put her feet to the fire, dont you think????  They knew she wasnt going to tell them where the body was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:33:31 PM
CNN Headline News will be talking about the case and discussing comments made by LP.

Give a summary when done as i'm working the store n2wishn!TIA



LP and the defense attorney are arguing about what Hoover suppossedly told LP. Hoover told LP that Dominic Casey told him Caylee was dead and they went to the area where the body was found a month later. Defense att doesn't believe LP and so Lp said to talk to Nick Savage with the FBI as he knows all about it and even collected film and pics from Hoover. LP even went on to say that when Dominic and Hoover were at the site, Dominic was on the phone taling to Joy Wray!!!What? This is crazy!!!!!!!

Hell with Immunity for the Anthony's.I think others will nail their coffin shut.They better start speaking to minimize the consequences.Which Anthony will speak first???? ::MonkeyDance::

I got my lunch money on George.

I'll bet on George too!  (of course, like Boo, I'd like Leroy to cover my bet!) ::MonkeyLaugh::
                                                                                                               Regarding immunity~I'd be willing to bet that the first Anthony to step up will have to give their proffer FIRST before LE would even consider whether or not it was worth immunity and how much immunity. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:33:45 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 09:34:43 PM
Crud cola, that should be they knew she didnt tell the truth about one thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 01, 2009, 09:39:58 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.
Welcome KitKat......Put a kitkat in your mouth and get a bang out of life!!!!
Oh A1 ... you know SS is gonna read that right?  and his whole thing with kitties?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Notsayingit.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.  I think the detectives that have interrogated Casey were way to soft with her.  All the lies she told them and the all the circles she had them going in why did they not turn around and lie to her a bit?  Play her game for awhile.  I know all this has probably been touched upon already but gosh there is a lot to read here lol.  I am glad I found this site and once again hello.

Hi kitkat, welcome to the cage!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)

Good questions!  I also wondered why the detectives seemed so soft with her.  Figured they were doing the 'good cop, bad cop' routine and I was just hearing the good part.  lol  Was very happy when one of them just flat out called her on her lies.  Was cheering him on! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 09:48:29 PM
Welcome KitKat!  ::MonkeyDance::

So now Dominic knew on Nov. 15th that Caylee was dead, and that she was off Suburban Drive.  Are the A's now going to be questioned in regards to this new development?  After all, he was their PI.  Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but I am really far behind!  Thanks!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:49:15 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



I'm sorry, I just see drywall everywhere it seems.  lol  This looks to me like drywall covered with some yellow stuff. 


Wyks it looks like drywall covered by tissue paper because it is kind of ripped. If it wasn't ripped I would think it was a cheap raincoat.
Yeah, it does look like ripped tissue paper, joesamas mama.  Wonder if we'll ever find out?  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 09:50:29 PM
Does anyone remember if the audio interview with Amy was released? I can't remember anything except the written transcript.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 09:52:11 PM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?
According to LP today on CNN Headline News, LP was not told about the video until Dec 15 or 16, after Caylee's remains were found.

Yes, I do remember that about the video being shown to him in Dec...but what about the conversation re: Caylee was found....asked if she was alive....said no....and they were going to get her.  I am thoroughly confused I guess...I thought this was told to him  in Nov??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 01, 2009, 09:53:23 PM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?
According to LP today on CNN Headline News, LP was not told about the video until Dec 15 or 16, after Caylee's remains were found.

That would be a real bummer if they have sat on information and left that baby out in the woods like that.  If that is the case, someone needs to fry.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

that's the truth....but I am not sure anymore what in the hell he said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 01, 2009, 09:55:23 PM
I thought it was extremely interesting when Padillla said that Joy Wray is married to a man named "John" who works for Baez.  I thought that was a big bombshell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
I want to say something about the phone calls on the cellphone.  One time, a friend brought over an illegal scanner and we listened to it and heard all sorts of cellphone calls that were in the area.  I understand this scanner in an automobile can pick up your call if the scanner is near you.  I say this because I cannot get it out of my mind about all the pings on Casey's phone when she was driving around.  Is this how information was found about the location of Caylee?  Is there a scanner like this still being used by LE?  I am not in the know anymore.  I do know there are all sorts of spy equipment out there and if this was my granddaughter or daughter missing, I would stop at nothing to find her or just what someone may know about the case.  I would not care if this is legal or not. 

Oh yeah, LE uses scanners and whatever else they may need.  There were some punks out here who stole some walkie-talkies, among other things, including guns, from a local sporting goods store.  They were caught because the cops just turned on the frequency for those walkie-talkies, and there the punks were, chatting away on them, not realizing LE was listening to every word.  They made further plans on the walkie-talkies and the cops met them there.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 09:59:33 PM
Hey Klaas, I was napping and didn't see Joesama's mama's message.  Please share my e-mail addy with her or send hers my way.  Many thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
I want to say something about the phone calls on the cellphone.  One time, a friend brought over an illegal scanner and we listened to it and heard all sorts of cellphone calls that were in the area.  I understand this scanner in an automobile can pick up your call if the scanner is near you.  I say this because I cannot get it out of my mind about all the pings on Casey's phone when she was driving around.  Is this how information was found about the location of Caylee?  Is there a scanner like this still being used by LE?  I am not in the know anymore.  I do know there are all sorts of spy equipment out there and if this was my granddaughter or daughter missing, I would stop at nothing to find her or just what someone may know about the case.  I would not care if this is legal or not. 

Oh yeah, LE uses scanners and whatever else they may need.  There were some punks out here who stole some walkie-talkies, among other things, including guns, from a local sporting goods store.  They were caught because the cops just turned on the frequency for those walkie-talkies, and there the punks were, chatting away on them, not realizing LE was listening to every word.  They made further plans on the walkie-talkies and the cops met them there.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

Now that is funny ::MonkeyLaugh::

I love the spy stuff.  My son calls me, "Mrs. Cravitz".  Rmember the old woman on Bewitched??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:02:25 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-nancy-grace-010109,0,4782002.story

O/T but interresting

CNN's Nancy Grace wants Melinda Duckett records
Steve Hudak

Sentinel Staff Writer

7:41 PM EST, January 1, 2009

 Lawyers for CNN and the network's TV talk-show personality Nancy Grace want a federal judge to order a Lake County mental-health facility to turn over its treatment records of Melinda Duckett, the mother of missing toddler Trenton Duckett.

In documents filed on New Year's Eve, the lawyers contend Duckett's mental-health history is relevant to her family's wrongful-death lawsuit which accuses Grace and her cable show of "intentionally inflicting emotional distress" on the distraught mother, 21.

Officials for Lifestream Behavioral Center in Leesburg, which had previously treated Duckett, told the cable network's lawyers last month that they would not honor a deposition subpeona but would follow a judge's order.

Duckett shot herself in her grandparents' home in The Villages on Sept. 8, 2006, the day that Grace planned to air an interview she had taped with her. Jerry and Beth Eubank, Melinda Duckett's adoptive parents, contend that the abrasive announcer's aggressive style was an "ambush" that caused the emotional distress that led Duckett to suicide.

Duckett reported her son missing from his bed in her apartment on Aug. 27, 2006. Leesburg police have since labeled her as the only suspect in the disappearance of the boy, who would now be 4-years-old


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:05:33 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Hey Klaas, I was napping and didn't see Joesama's mama's message.  Please share my e-mail addy with her or send hers my way.  Many thanks.

I did send her your email addy  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:09:27 PM
Looking at the pile of trash out front of Lee's house, over to the left is a framed ...printed piece.

Has anyone been able to ZOOM in and tell what that said???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 10:10:42 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:11:55 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????

(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8181712&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 
Created: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 
 
SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- As reports circulate in the media that two private investigators who worked for the Anthony family may have visited the site where Caylee Anthony’s remains where eventually found, one of the investigators is coming forward to distance himself from the other.

2 year old Caylee Anthony was missing since June of last year, her remains were found in November.

George and Cindy Anthony are the grandparents of the toddler. Caylee's mother Casey Anthony sets in jail accused of murder.

Published reports said this week that the private investigators had made videotapes they took while in the area where the remains were found, before they were actually found.

Dominic Casey of D&A Investigations said Thursday that James Hoover, the other private investigator associated with this case, and the man who is alleged by some to have made the videotapes, is not employed by his agency.


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VIDEO: Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found
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Casey said Hoover simply showed up at the Anthony's door one day and offered to help them deal with protesters free of charge, and the Anthony’s allowed it

According to Casey he's the only private investigator working on the case for the Anthony's and admitted he went to the site where the remains were found November 15th. 

"I went out there to determine if it really was a place where teens hung out,” Casey said.

Casey added that he was taking photos to document information found in discovery documents that stated it was a teen hang out.  He said he was looking for items such as beer bottles, makeshift chairs and similar items.

 While he was there, Casey said that James Hoover snuck up on him.

"As I turned around, Hoover was standing there with a video camera,” Casey said.  “I said, 'What are you doing here?'  He said, ‘I thought you might want help.'  I said, ‘James, that's completely inappropriate’."

Casey took photos of the area and said he's turned over his photos to the Anthony's attorney, to give to prosecutors.

According to Casey, James Hoover now claims his video no longer exists, that he taped over it.

"I would be interested to talking with James Hoover myself," Casey said.  "I have over 40 phone calls in to him and he has not returned my phone calls."
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:15:20 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 10:15:28 PM
From what I understand, Greta has email and several blogs going at the same time, often reads those when she can, and 'has people' who take care of those for her.  It could very well be that 'her people' did the slice job severe editing and Greta herself never saw the message from Red.  It could be. 

Not defending Greta, because she has changed for the worse, IMO, ever since she started covering politics before the elections.  Plus, she is ultimately responsible for what 'her people' may or may not do.  IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:15:53 PM
Looking at the pile of trash out front of Lee's house, over to the left is a framed ...printed piece.

Has anyone been able to ZOOM in and tell what that said???

I can't tell:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/leeframetrash.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:17:34 PM
From what I understand, Greta has email and several blogs going at the same time, often reads those when she can, and 'has people' who take care of those for her.  It could very well be that 'her people' did the slice job severe editing and Greta herself never saw the message from Red.  It could be. 

Not defending Greta, because she has changed for the worse, IMO, ever since she started covering politics before the elections.  Plus, she is ultimately responsible for what 'her people' may or may not do.  IMO. 


Initially when she started the blog the comments were not moderated at all.  That posed a problem as she had hundreds of troll comments.

Now she had moderators.  Yes, she does read and post often but she does not read everything and moderators are processing the posts and determine what gets processed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 10:17:49 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Add to the mix, Hoover and Casey having a dispute as well. Can this case get anymore mixed up than it is already?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 10:18:59 PM
I thought it was extremely interesting when Padillla said that Joy Wray is married to a man named "John" who works for Baez.  I thought that was a big bombshell.

According to Joy, she is married to John Wray the PI, and his friend is Jim, the other PI. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 10:20:37 PM
I want to say something about the phone calls on the cellphone.  One time, a friend brought over an illegal scanner and we listened to it and heard all sorts of cellphone calls that were in the area.  I understand this scanner in an automobile can pick up your call if the scanner is near you.  I say this because I cannot get it out of my mind about all the pings on Casey's phone when she was driving around.  Is this how information was found about the location of Caylee?  Is there a scanner like this still being used by LE?  I am not in the know anymore.  I do know there are all sorts of spy equipment out there and if this was my granddaughter or daughter missing, I would stop at nothing to find her or just what someone may know about the case.  I would not care if this is legal or not. 

Oh yeah, LE uses scanners and whatever else they may need.  There were some punks out here who stole some walkie-talkies, among other things, including guns, from a local sporting goods store.  They were caught because the cops just turned on the frequency for those walkie-talkies, and there the punks were, chatting away on them, not realizing LE was listening to every word.  They made further plans on the walkie-talkies and the cops met them there.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

Now that is funny ::MonkeyLaugh::

I love the spy stuff.  My son calls me, "Mrs. Cravitz".  Rmember the old woman on Bewitched??

Yesssssss!  I loved watching her!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 10:21:35 PM
Maybe the Scientologists are backing Casey's defense team via Greta? ::MonkeyHaHa::  At this point, nothing surprises me! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 10:21:50 PM
FYI

Since I couldn't remember a taped audio version of Amy's interview having been released, I looked around and still couldn't find anything but a transcript. Anyway, NG had audio of Amy's interview on her show tonight so I bet there will be another dump coming soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 01, 2009, 10:21:56 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Add to the mix, Hoover and Casey having a dispute as well. Can this case get anymore mixed up than it is already?

...and while they are all bickering and arguing over who works for whom and who knew what when, Caylee's body is still at the funeral home...

Poor little mite.  Doesn't anyone care enough to give her a decent burial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 01, 2009, 10:23:50 PM
the yellow thing that you are all talking about in Lee's trash looks like a couch cushion that has had the fabric ripped off of it.  Alot of times they use a very thin piece of plastic of sometimes, like saran wrap, to wrap around the foam and then the fbric slides over it easier during manufacturing.  Plus it serves as a kind of barrier for any spills and stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 01, 2009, 10:24:32 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

I'd say it exists. It would make Dominic Casey look somewhat suspicious if there were a tape.  IMO he looks very suspicious. I'd like to know what Joyce Wray's husband, John, who according to Padilla works for Baez, does for Baez.  Has Baez been sending Joyce Wray to various sites to make trouble, i.e. the dive at the Econ?  There she was.  Also at the prayer service for Caylee that Padilla and Grund arranged, there was Joyce. Strange. Then again, not so strange.

And while I'm on the subject of strange things, why do those assinine Anthonys say things like "Reach out" when they actually mean they made a telephone call to someone?  Why do they say "Wrap my mind around it" when they mean understand it?  "A lot on my plate" when they mean they have a lot to do? What is all this Anthony speak?  Are they from another planet? What is that planet that the progenitors of the Scientologists came from?  Could they be from there?  I know quite a few people and I know no one who says things like the Anthonys do.  Thank God.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 01, 2009, 10:25:02 PM
The video links I listed are supposed to be full version.I don't know if I can listen to anymore.  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think it's punishment for *cough* tired monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::
Sea Searcher better bring out something strong for this.I'm gonna hunt a Lortab for  myself for this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll listen to more this morning. I found it interesting the stuff they cut out in the beginning. Why did they cut it out and release to public and now re-release it again in "full" version? I never heard Cindy saying anything about beating the sh*t out of KC in the 911 tapes! Too bad she didn't follow through!  ::MonkeyShocked::


which tape is that in???? I want to hear that.

Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.



I'm behind trying to catch up and I can't find where the tapes of the 911 call were re released?   Could you direct me to the link that you used to listen to.  Or does anyone else have a link to where you can hear Cindy in the background stating something about beating the crap out of Casey?  Thanks all you monkey's out there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 01, 2009, 10:26:25 PM
From what I understand, Greta has email and several blogs going at the same time, often reads those when she can, and 'has people' who take care of those for her.  It could very well be that 'her people' did the slice job severe editing and Greta herself never saw the message from Red.  It could be. 

Not defending Greta, because she has changed for the worse, IMO, ever since she started covering politics before the elections.  Plus, she is ultimately responsible for what 'her people' may or may not do.  IMO. 


Initially when she started the blog the comments were not moderated at all.  That posed a problem as she had hundreds of troll comments.

Now she had moderators.  Yes, she does read and post often but she does not read everything and moderators are processing the posts and determine what gets processed.

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:27:09 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Add to the mix, Hoover and Casey having a dispute as well. Can this case get anymore mixed up than it is already?

...and while they are all bickering and arguing over who works for whom and who knew what when, Caylee's body is still at the funeral home...

Poor little mite.  Doesn't anyone care enough to give her a decent burial?


Apparantly not ::MonkeyNoNo:: and in reality, the defense isn't really doing an autopsy as you need more than skelatal remains to do an autopsy, at this point it would just be mainly anthropoligal and they already know those results. not a damn one of them cares about that baby, just infuriates me ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 01, 2009, 10:29:29 PM
I thought it was extremely interesting when Padillla said that Joy Wray is married to a man named "John" who works for Baez.  I thought that was a big bombshell.

This does not surprise me in the least.  I think the ONLY people they can find to help out the defense are either relatives of the defense team, or crooked "experts" looking to make a buck off of this case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 10:30:31 PM
You know what you just said is probably the crux of the matter.  If Caylee's body was still in it's original state, they would probably be crying over the casket, but since it's not...................................... gosh that is horrible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 01, 2009, 10:30:38 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



I'm sorry, I just see drywall everywhere it seems.  lol  This looks to me like drywall covered with some yellow stuff. 

Wyks it looks like drywall covered by tissue paper because it is kind of ripped. If it wasn't ripped I would think it was a cheap raincoat.

The pic blown up..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 01, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
Maybe the Scientologists are backing Casey's defense team via Greta? ::MonkeyHaHa::  At this point, nothing surprises me! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa
Juliette Lewis is a scientologist! ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 10:36:04 PM
Maybe the Scientologists are backing Casey's defense team via Greta? ::MonkeyHaHa::  At this point, nothing surprises me! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa
Juliette Lewis is a scientologist! ::MonkeyWaa::

Ack! ::MonkeyConfused::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:38:30 PM
Klaas!  I didn't know Melinda Duckett had any sort of mental health history.  I don't know if we have a thread for that, and I'm aware I already have a poor history of being an OT monkey, but that's interesting.

Thanks, Wyks, for your comments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 10:38:40 PM
Can someone give me an update about Caylee's funeral?  Is there ever going to be one?  Is her body just going to stay in that funeral home forever?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 01, 2009, 10:46:49 PM
Can someone give me an update about Caylee's funeral?  Is there ever going to be one?  Is her body just going to stay in that funeral home forever?

Lisa



Just until CA, GA and LA receive immunity.    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 10:49:02 PM
Can someone give me an update about Caylee's funeral?  Is there ever going to be one?  Is her body just going to stay in that funeral home forever?

Lisa



Just until CA, GA and LA receive immunity.    ::MonkeyWink::

Isn't that tha truth!NO IMMUNITY!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
Can someone give me an update about Caylee's funeral?  Is there ever going to be one?  Is her body just going to stay in that funeral home forever?

Lisa



Just until CA, GA and LA receive immunity.    ::MonkeyWink::

Isn't that tha truth!NO IMMUNITY!!

They are just despicable! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 01, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
Klaas!  I didn't know Melinda Duckett had any sort of mental health history.  I don't know if we have a thread for that, and I'm aware I already have a poor history of being an OT monkey, but that's interesting.

Thanks, Wyks, for your comments.

Actually we do have a Trenton Ducket thread and I should post that in it.  Thanks for the reminder  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Can someone give me an update about Caylee's funeral?  Is there ever going to be one?  Is her body just going to stay in that funeral home forever?

Lisa



Just until CA, GA and LA receive immunity.    ::MonkeyWink::

Isn't that tha truth!NO IMMUNITY!!

They are just despicable! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lisa

One would think you've seen it all.Along come the Anthony's. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 01, 2009, 10:54:46 PM
Big time invovled. Here are a few links.....
http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html (http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html)

http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren (http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren)
[/quote]

Hi Monkeys! I just thought it strange that she sometimes goes by the name Greta Conway (says Conway is her middle name). Just thought that was strange with all the similarities of names of people "involved" in this case! Too many strange things about this case!
Poor little Caylee gets lost in all of this. She was the only victim that I can see at this point. Not sure what all the A's involvement is/was, but they didn't do anything to help find her whether she were alive or not. Now that we know, we do not hear anything they are doing to help. They are only interested in being sure they don't get themselves in trouble in any way. Tell us we're immune, then we'll talk. To me, that speaks volumes!!!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 11:06:29 PM
Big time invovled. Here are a few links.....
http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html (http://www.sptimes.com/Floridian/121398/High_profile_couple_n.html)

http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren (http://cityfile.com/profiles/greta-van-susteren)

Hi Monkeys! I just thought it strange that she sometimes goes by the name Greta Conway (says Conway is her middle name). Just thought that was strange with all the similarities of names of people "involved" in this case! Too many strange things about this case!
Poor little Caylee gets lost in all of this. She was the only victim that I can see at this point. Not sure what all the A's involvement is/was, but they didn't do anything to help find her whether she were alive or not. Now that we know, we do not hear anything they are doing to help. They are only interested in being sure they don't get themselves in trouble in any way. Tell us we're immune, then we'll talk. To me, that speaks volumes!!!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
[/quote]

Well, if the A's start surrounding themselves with people that are from Clearwater, FL, then I will be convinced that the Scientologists are paying for everything!  ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:11:30 PM
Looking at the pile of trash out front of Lee's house, over to the left is a framed ...printed piece.

Has anyone been able to ZOOM in and tell what that said???

I can't tell:

Thanks, for trying.... ::MonkeyWink::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/leeframetrash.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:15:24 PM
Lee moved out of his rented house yesterday, lot of garbage piled up at end of driveway, rumor has it he and Mallory moved in with her parents. Questions being raised about carpet cleaning. Lucky Mallory's parents. ::MonkeyRoll::
Wonder why they didn't move in the George & Cindy ~ I've heard Casey's room will be available for about ... oh ... LIFE!
There is a link on WS to pictures of the driveway and garbage. There is a poster that Lee left with the garbage, someone took the poster and put it by the Anthony's driveway, I can't read it very well, something about beer pong. ::MonkeyEek::

Photo allegedly taken in front of Lee's rental home on 12/30/08:

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/CayleeLee5.jpg)

Klaas...is there a larger pic of this stuff...I can't get it clear enough.

If someone walked away with that sign..then I hope they grabbed that computer too.

Does anyone know what that yellow stuff is ? It almost looks like insulation but I can't get the pic clear enough to tell.

TIA

I blow this picture up regarding the item in question..



I'm sorry, I just see drywall everywhere it seems.  lol  This looks to me like drywall covered with some yellow stuff. 

Wyks it looks like drywall covered by tissue paper because it is kind of ripped. If it wasn't ripped I would think it was a cheap raincoat.

The pic blown up..



who goes out and buys that much yellow tissue paper? I think it's a comforter or futon or mattress that got kind of shredded somehow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:16:20 PM
Do you think it says The Shepherds Prayer or something like that???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:22:16 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

I'd say it exists. It would make Dominic Casey look somewhat suspicious if there were a tape.  IMO he looks very suspicious. I'd like to know what Joyce Wray's husband, John, who according to Padilla works for Baez, does for Baez.  Has Baez been sending Joyce Wray to various sites to make trouble, i.e. the dive at the Econ?  There she was.  Also at the prayer service for Caylee that Padilla and Grund arranged, there was Joyce. Strange. Then again, not so strange.

And while I'm on the subject of strange things, why do those assinine Anthonys say things like "Reach out" when they actually mean they made a telephone call to someone?  Why do they say "Wrap my mind around it" when they mean understand it?  "A lot on my plate" when they mean they have a lot to do? What is all this Anthony speak?  Are they from another planet? What is that planet that the progenitors of the Scientologists came from?  Could they be from there?  I know quite a few people and I know no one who says things like the Anthonys do.  Thank God.


"A lot on my plate" is a very, very common expression here in Kansas City. Seems like people say it, more often than they say you have a lot to do. "Wrap my mind around it," is pretty common too. Not sure about always reaching out like that. Where I come from "reaching out" to someone means more than just a phone call--it's about trying to be friends with them on some level.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 01, 2009, 11:25:54 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

Hi Monkeys!

Here's another view of that yellow thingy for you all. Looks like a shredded yellow trash bag or tissue paper covering some particle board shelf piece or box and a shoe in it to me.


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:36:35 PM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:37:34 PM
I want to say something about the phone calls on the cellphone.  One time, a friend brought over an illegal scanner and we listened to it and heard all sorts of cellphone calls that were in the area.  I understand this scanner in an automobile can pick up your call if the scanner is near you.  I say this because I cannot get it out of my mind about all the pings on Casey's phone when she was driving around.  Is this how information was found about the location of Caylee?  Is there a scanner like this still being used by LE?  I am not in the know anymore.  I do know there are all sorts of spy equipment out there and if this was my granddaughter or daughter missing, I would stop at nothing to find her or just what someone may know about the case.  I would not care if this is legal or not. 

Oh yeah, LE uses scanners and whatever else they may need.  There were some punks out here who stole some walkie-talkies, among other things, including guns, from a local sporting goods store.  They were caught because the cops just turned on the frequency for those walkie-talkies, and there the punks were, chatting away on them, not realizing LE was listening to every word.  They made further plans on the walkie-talkies and the cops met them there.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

Now that is funny ::MonkeyLaugh::

I love the spy stuff.  My son calls me, "Mrs. Cravitz".  Rmember the old woman on Bewitched??

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:38:30 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-nancy-grace-010109,0,4782002.story

O/T but interresting

<snip>


Most O/T stuff is interesting.  Just sayin'.    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 01, 2009, 11:39:59 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Really.  I'd like to be next in line.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:41:04 PM
Do you think it says The Shepherds Prayer or something like that???
Bumping this up to ask again!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:41:22 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????

Maybe Boo shared her tea with them?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:44:21 PM
Bearly, no one wants to discuss the Caylee case with us, I think I will just go nite nite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:46:20 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

You need more hands than are at a mannequin making warehouse, imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:46:36 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????

Maybe Boo shared her tea with them?   ::MonkeyEek::

The twist and turns of this are making me want some, maybe Boo will share with me ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:47:46 PM
Bearly, no one wants to discuss the Caylee case with us, I think I will just go nite nite.

Are you really tired or just feeling a little guilty about last night...after I went and adopted you and everything...just sayin'...

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 01, 2009, 11:48:08 PM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mariloo on January 01, 2009, 11:48:39 PM
Good nite all and I hope everyone had a very Happy First Day of the New Year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:48:48 PM
Do you think it says The Shepherds Prayer or something like that???
Bumping this up to ask again!!!

Point me in the right direction and I will help.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:49:10 PM
Bearly, no one wants to discuss the Caylee case with us, I think I will just go nite nite.

Are you really tired or just feeling a little guilty about last night...after I went and adopted you and everything...just sayin'...

 ::MonkeyRoll::
but Bearly, it wasnt my fault.  I didnt have any one to kiss, so I blew kisses to all, and he caught it!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:49:21 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????


According to LP the FBI has it now. How can that be if a tape doesn't exist?

JMO~but Padilla seems to spin theories and supposition as fact. I'm NOT saying that is the case here, it's just when you look back from when he first got involved, I need both hands to count his theories ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

You need more hands than are at a mannequin making warehouse, imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


So d@mn true! I was working on a list, but it's so long.....I may save it for work when I'm bored, but I had forgotten the theory he spouted about Casey not looking worried because she handed Caylee off to someone she trusted because she wanted to move out of the house ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 01, 2009, 11:50:18 PM
Bearly, no one wants to discuss the Caylee case with us, I think I will just go nite nite.

Are you really tired or just feeling a little guilty about last night...after I went and adopted you and everything...just sayin'...

 ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: you guys are soooo funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:50:34 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

Hi Monkeys!

Here's another view of that yellow thingy for you all. Looks like a shredded yellow trash bag or tissue paper covering some particle board shelf piece or box and a shoe in it to me.


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash-1.jpg)
This plaque Bearly, can you read it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:50:54 PM
Do you think it says The Shepherds Prayer or something like that???
Bumping this up to ask again!!!

No, I don't think that is what it says, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 01, 2009, 11:51:40 PM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html#

This link takes you to the listing, its the second 911 call -- the remark is made just after Cindy tells george that "zanny" took Caylee, then she says that she called them 2 hours ago, and she wishes that they would get there because she was going to beat the $hit out of Casey!  Listen to it, you can hear it.  I transcribe police interviews all the time and my earphones filter out noise, and I can hear it.  I can hear it without the earphones. 


Thanks for link but I still can't hear it I must be deaf...do you thing that someone on here can filter out the noise?  Or can someone transcribe excatly what was said..I for some reason can't hear it at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 11:52:08 PM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 01, 2009, 11:54:22 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 01, 2009, 11:55:10 PM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 01, 2009, 11:56:47 PM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

ITA.  She's lying and she knows that she cannot pass a polygraph and it doesn't matter what drugs she is taking. She's a liar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 01, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

I think she found out the truth after the third 911 call.  And it's been "lie, obstruct, and obfuscate" ever since!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 01, 2009, 11:59:10 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

Hi Monkeys!

Here's another view of that yellow thingy for you all. Looks like a shredded yellow trash bag or tissue paper covering some particle board shelf piece or box and a shoe in it to me.


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/trash-1.jpg)
This plaque Bearly, can you read it.

There is no h after the p.  It appears to begin with D (or O), imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 01, 2009, 11:59:26 PM
Ok, now Im really really going to sleep.  Nite all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:01:31 AM
Does anyone have a link to the 911 tape w/ Cindy saying she'll beat Casey? I didn't hear it on the old ones that I have.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html#

This link takes you to the listing, its the second 911 call -- the remark is made just after Cindy tells george that "zanny" took Caylee, then she says that she called them 2 hours ago, and she wishes that they would get there because she was going to beat the $hit out of Casey!  Listen to it, you can hear it.  I transcribe police interviews all the time and my earphones filter out noise, and I can hear it.  I can hear it without the earphones. 


Thanks for link but I still can't hear it I must be deaf...do you thing that someone on here can filter out the noise?  Or can someone transcribe excatly what was said..I for some reason can't hear it at all.

Me either, RV.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:02:30 AM
Ok, now Im really really going to sleep.  Nite all.

Love you, Sleepyhead!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 12:02:50 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:03:41 AM
The only reason I don't think Lee was evicted, is because he had the carpet cleaned, the man who cleaned the carpet, said it didn't look like the carpet was dirty, I don't know if this is true, about the carpet cleaner man, but that is what is being said on another forum. Also that there were kids toys. ::MonkeyEek::

Not surprising for there to be kids' toys. They're expecting a baby, and have nieces and nephews--or at least Lee used to until about 6 months ago.

Just because he wants to throw out toys strangers sent "for Caylee" to upset his folks, doesn't mean he's in a hurry to shed all of his own reminders of his niece.

But that paper tape thing with his roommate is weird. It's as if he was trying to find out through Brian what it was like--he kept asking "how do you feel?" Weird.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:05:14 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:08:02 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

No, IM, I don't remember, sorry.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:09:18 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

I think the act came later. I think her emotions on the 911 call are genuine. I don't think Cindy's a good actress, and if she tried to fake that kind of visceral emotion it would sound really fake.

IMO, Cindy's real, genuine moments include: 911 call, "I'm gonna beat the shit out of her," the moment with the hammer, (misdirected--she really wanted to be threatening Casey with the hammer,) and when she demanded to know where Caylee was. Those moments she's out of control and not thinking.

Fake:  calling Casey "sweetheart" all the time--it's a way of reminding herself to be patient. "I lied about all that just to get LE here." Pretty much everything she's said to LE since, and everything she's said on camera. "We support Casey." No, but she thinks she should, and so she says she does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:11:36 AM
Nite, A1.  Have a good rest in T-town, if I'm remembering where you are (my 2nd home).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

I think the act came later. I think her emotions on the 911 call are genuine. I don't think Cindy's a good actress, and if she tried to fake that kind of visceral emotion it would sound really fake.

IMO, Cindy's real, genuine moments include: 911 call, "I'm gonna beat the shit out of her," the moment with the hammer, (misdirected--she really wanted to be threatening Casey with the hammer,) and when she demanded to know where Caylee was. Those moments she's out of control and not thinking.

Fake:  calling Casey "sweetheart" all the time--it's a way of reminding herself to be patient. "I lied about all that just to get LE here." Pretty much everything she's said to LE since, and everything she's said on camera. "We support Casey." No, but she thinks she should, and so she says she does.

 :thumright:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:13:28 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 12:17:19 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.

I am betting on valium, Xanex, and dilaudid with an accasional Benzedrine added in.  All easily accessible for RN's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 12:22:43 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

I thought it was after his name was released but I'll look for the exact date.  It would be in the NG transcripts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:23:25 AM
Hi Honey!!!

                 (http://www.naute.com/funimages/kissingbabysmall.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 12:25:43 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

I thought it was after his name was released but I'll look for the exact date.  It would be in the NG transcripts.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/no-reward-for-meter-reader-who-found-skull/

No Reward For Meter Reader Who Found Skull
Posted on December 15, 2008 by wjasonsmom
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — It was a meter reader who found the remains that could be Caylee Anthony. He’s having a tough time and does not want to talk with the media and he is so disturbed by what he found his bosses have given him some time off of work.

When the Orange County meter reader discovered a skull in the woods not too far from Caylee Anthony’s home his supervisor called 911.

That phone call makes the meter reader ineligible for a $5,000 Crimeline reward. To collect the reward, you have to call Crimeline first before you call 911.

 ”You have to initiate a tip with Crimeline at 1-800-423-TIPS,” explained Detective Barb Bergin, Crimeline. “We don’t have enough money to pay rewards to everyone who calls 911.”

Bergin encourages people to call 911 if there is an emergency, but Crimeline calls are answered 24 hours a day.

“As calls come in, if it’s something that needs an emergency or needs law enforcement, we have people in place for that to happen immediately,” Bergin said.

Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla offered a $50,000 reward for Caylee’s body, but pulled the money when people complained searchers were tearing up their yards looking for remains.

“I don’t want to get sued,” Padilla said.

Still, Padilla plans thinks the meter reader deserves some kind of reward and he plans to write him a check if the remains belong to Caylee.

 ”It’s going to be a figure between five and ten grand involved easily,” he said. “Nobody looks at bags out here in these palmettos, they just walk by it. This guy had the foresight to go over and do it.”



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:26:03 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.

I am betting on valium, Xanex, and dilaudid with an accasional Benzedrine added in.  All easily accessible for RN's.

I think Cindy has turned into Xani, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:30:49 AM
The sign from Lee's garbage.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/a2cffs.jpg)
  ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh my! Where did you find that Today?

It's the white board in Lee's trash. "Beer Pong" is a game they play. It's not a real "death list."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:38:51 AM
Bearly, no one wants to discuss the Caylee case with us, I think I will just go nite nite.

Are you really tired or just feeling a little guilty about last night...after I went and adopted you and everything...just sayin'...

 ::MonkeyRoll::
but Bearly, it wasnt my fault.  I didnt have any one to kiss, so I blew kisses to all, and he caught it!!!

Well, I hope he has some penicillin to get rid of it.   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Charlie on January 02, 2009, 12:40:37 AM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.
Wow!!  This is exactly what could end up happening!  I say it's all in the venue & jury selection at this point.  The only thing that gives me hope that she'll get a max sentence is how fast the GJ came back.  There's just too much new techno stuff in this case & a jury can be easily swayed by a good defense team.  Throw in blame & she could walk.  I hope not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:40:39 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

I thought it was after his name was released but I'll look for the exact date.  It would be in the NG transcripts.

I remember the 15th from looking thru all the Orlando News, but IIRC his name wasn't released at this point-then I just read that he wants to add to Nejames reward by 5-10m WHEN he gets to talk to the meter reader himself, if he keeps this up I'm going to need to start drinking ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8156715&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


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ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- Just over two weeks ago, Roy Krunk, a water meter reader for Orange County, found what turned out the remains of missing toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. 

Law enforcement has said that Krunk called 3 times to report something he thought could be a bag with Caylee's remains in August.  They admit he even called Crimeline.  Crimeline issues monetary rewards for information to those who help solve a crime.

Crimeline's board of directors will not meet until late next month to decide who is eligible for rewards, but there are reports that Krunk may not get any money from the tip line.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Reward money may go to meter reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cindy and George Anthony's former attorney Mark Nejame told Krunk's attorney he'd be willing to reward Krunk in an effort to bring some closure to this tragic case. 

NeJame said Monday that he's still evaluating his offer.  NeJame believes Krunk went beyond the call of duty by calling authorities over and over again to follow up on a hunch.  He said five thousand dollars would be a good thank you from him on behalf of the community. 

Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: GO HOME and leave it to the LE FTLOG ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:43:10 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.

No, that is not what I meant. 

Even if she was not on drugs, she would not pass because she is a liar, imo.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:43:16 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:44:02 AM
Klaas -I should have known you'd find that first!!!!1 I am just trying to remember all the other dates he promised to give the meter reader $$, but if you remember he stated " the sherriff would be mad at him because he was a county employee" and he was trying to find a way to do it without getting anyone in trouble ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
Goodnight monks.  I've been poking around at the Trenton Duckett thread, and it has depressed me to no end.  So sad, but at least Caylee was found.  Hope your second day of 2009 is twice as good as the first!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 12:48:10 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

I thought it was after his name was released but I'll look for the exact date.  It would be in the NG transcripts.

I remember the 15th from looking thru all the Orlando News, but IIRC his name wasn't released at this point-then I just read that he wants to add to Nejames reward by 5-10m WHEN he gets to talk to the meter reader himself, if he keeps this up I'm going to need to start drinking ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8156715&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Atty. may offer reward to Caylee tipster 
 
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ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- Just over two weeks ago, Roy Krunk, a water meter reader for Orange County, found what turned out the remains of missing toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. 

Law enforcement has said that Krunk called 3 times to report something he thought could be a bag with Caylee's remains in August.  They admit he even called Crimeline.  Crimeline issues monetary rewards for information to those who help solve a crime.

Crimeline's board of directors will not meet until late next month to decide who is eligible for rewards, but there are reports that Krunk may not get any money from the tip line.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Reward money may go to meter reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cindy and George Anthony's former attorney Mark Nejame told Krunk's attorney he'd be willing to reward Krunk in an effort to bring some closure to this tragic case. 

NeJame said Monday that he's still evaluating his offer.  NeJame believes Krunk went beyond the call of duty by calling authorities over and over again to follow up on a hunch.  He said five thousand dollars would be a good thank you from him on behalf of the community. 

Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: GO HOME and leave it to the LE FTLOG ::MonkeyNoNo::

So, perhaps Padilla is going to offer to get the reader meter's nails done, then he'll talk?

FTLOG let LE and the FBI do their job!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 12:48:58 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:49:11 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:49:58 AM
Oh, I just thought of something, does anyone remember the date that LP mentioned he was going to pay the meter reader a reward on Greta???? I KNOW it was before his name was released to the public, so.........now he thinks the Meter reader is part of a daisy chain. ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh well, I guess he can back off on that reward money now ::MonkeyWink::

Bump

Any monkey remember these dates??

I thought it was after his name was released but I'll look for the exact date.  It would be in the NG transcripts.

I remember the 15th from looking thru all the Orlando News, but IIRC his name wasn't released at this point-then I just read that he wants to add to Nejames reward by 5-10m WHEN he gets to talk to the meter reader himself, if he keeps this up I'm going to need to start drinking ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8156715&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Atty. may offer reward to Caylee tipster 
 
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Created: Sunday, 28 Dec 2008, 10:34 PM EST 
 
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ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- Just over two weeks ago, Roy Krunk, a water meter reader for Orange County, found what turned out the remains of missing toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. 

Law enforcement has said that Krunk called 3 times to report something he thought could be a bag with Caylee's remains in August.  They admit he even called Crimeline.  Crimeline issues monetary rewards for information to those who help solve a crime.

Crimeline's board of directors will not meet until late next month to decide who is eligible for rewards, but there are reports that Krunk may not get any money from the tip line.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Reward money may go to meter reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cindy and George Anthony's former attorney Mark Nejame told Krunk's attorney he'd be willing to reward Krunk in an effort to bring some closure to this tragic case. 

NeJame said Monday that he's still evaluating his offer.  NeJame believes Krunk went beyond the call of duty by calling authorities over and over again to follow up on a hunch.  He said five thousand dollars would be a good thank you from him on behalf of the community. 

Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: GO HOME and leave it to the LE FTLOG ::MonkeyNoNo::

So, perhaps Padilla is going to offer to get the reader meter's nails done, then he'll talk?

FTLOG let LE and the FBI do their job!

Karen


LMAO~maybe a shower and a nice meal too ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:50:16 AM
Goodnight monks.  I've been poking around at the Trenton Duckett thread, and it has depressed me to no end.  So sad, but at least Caylee was found.  Hope your second day of 2009 is twice as good as the first!

Nite BM!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 12:50:24 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

The whole Anthony family and their lack of healthy boundaries (do they even know what boundaries are) GROSS THIS MONKEY OUT TO NO END!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 12:53:14 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:53:33 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:55:35 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

pull a train

1 definition - When a group of men, one after the other, take on relations with a man or woman - usually from behind.
www.urbandictionary.com
www.urbandictionary.com


Thanks, Sparky.

Now I have to go wash my eyes out with soap!   ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 12:57:11 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

pull a train

1 definition - When a group of men, one after the other, take on relations with a man or woman - usually from behind.
www.urbandictionary.com
www.urbandictionary.com


Thanks, Sparky.

Now I have to go wash my eyes out with soap!   ::MonkeyShocked::



I had an idea of what it meant . . . but it's easier to go out and quote things and do a cut and paste than to write the words myself.  I just hope laptops don't have feelings . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 12:58:00 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

pull a train

1 definition - When a group of men, one after the other, take on relations with a man or woman - usually from behind.
www.urbandictionary.com
www.urbandictionary.com


I vote E.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:04:16 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

pull a train

1 definition - When a group of men, one after the other, take on relations with a man or woman - usually from behind.
www.urbandictionary.com
www.urbandictionary.com


I vote E.

If he made it up, perhaps it reflects what he assumes Casey was up to during that time or what all kids of Casey's age are up to.  For instance, perhaps he thought because Casey was always on the phone texting and on the 'puter on myspace that she was getting a lot of action.  He's my age or perhaps younger than me (I'm 53) and I can relate to thinking that about young people that put themselves out there so much on the phone and the net.  Ironically, the family probably didn't know that much about the guys she dated/her sexual activity because she was probably secretive.

But for the grace of God go I . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:07:21 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


The tape around the guys head made me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me, too. I'm wondering why they did this. It makes me wonder if Lee's blackmailing Brian somehow. How long has this thing been on Lee's page? Maybe this is where the "anonymous" donations and such come from. Maybe there are people out there who have had "fun" with Caylee and Casey, and are willing to pay a lot of money to keep it from coming to light.

Lee keeps asking "how do you feel?" like Brian was expecting it to be fun or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:10:36 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


The tape around the guys head made me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me, too. I'm wondering why they did this. It makes me wonder if Lee's blackmailing Brian somehow. How long has this thing been on Lee's page? Maybe this is where the "anonymous" donations and such come from. Maybe there are people out there who have had "fun" with Caylee and Casey, and are willing to pay a lot of money to keep it from coming to light.

Lee keeps asking "how do you feel?" like Brian was expecting it to be fun or something.

But it was uploaded in December 2006.  I don't think it's related . . . but if the boy (Lee) had any common sense he would take the video off of myspace.

Big IF!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:12:57 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



She knew what she had smelled. She knew there had been a dead body in there. BUT....IMO, it was all too easy for Casey to explain it away and say that she'd killed a rapist or a would-be murderer in self-defense, was scared to report it, and left him in there a bit before dumping the body.

"He was gonna hurt Caylee, Mom."  Or even for Cindy to imagine for herself that it wasn't Caylee dead in the trunk, but rather, someone who had tried to hurt Casey and Caylee. I think she sold George on the same story. JMO. 

Before the DNA evidence came out, IMO, it was easier for them to believe this, than that Casey would kill her own daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:16:20 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 01:18:29 AM
Hi guys!  :2waver:

I just watched the video of Cindy, where there's been discussion of her pupils. At first, I thought that it may be nothing. It appears to be dark out and because Cindy was speakig and looking directly at the interviewer instead of the camera and light source, I just attributed it to that. Our pupils get larger to let in maximum light in the dark.

However, I noticed later in the interview, when she swung her head toward the camera and light source, that her pupils remained the same. No question in my mind, she's taking medication that would cause that. Pupils react quickly to change when the amount of light changes. Cindy's didn't.

She doesn't appear to be slurring words beyond anything unusual or presenting with an unusual affect, so I doubt it's something super depressive. I don't know what it is or where she got it, but I'd bet a lot of money a blood test would show some kind of mood altering drug.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 01:19:21 AM

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Yes, with this theory, Cindy would have known at this point that Caylee was dead and at least some of the particulars of the case. I am just saying that this angle is something to look at. It's possible, you know! This is one MESSED UP family! And this case has had more twists and turns in it than anyone could imagine. And there has to be more coming.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:20:36 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:22:57 AM
I thought Brian was Lee's roommate.

Interesting video with Brian getting taped up. (http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373)

Holy Moly!! What is it with this family and duct tape? this will not bode well for Mr Unibrow.. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I don't know about myspace, but was that posted on the help find caylee myspace of Lee's? WHAT A DUMBAZZ if it is on his account. I don't get these people!

That is so...um.....so scary and not funny.  Maybe Casey got tape ideas from this video? What the X&%#?  And, yes that is on Lee's myspace. 
Is he so dumb that he wouldn't think people would see this? His niece was just found dead with duct tape around her poor head. I HATE LEE!


The tape around the guys head made me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me, too. I'm wondering why they did this. It makes me wonder if Lee's blackmailing Brian somehow. How long has this thing been on Lee's page? Maybe this is where the "anonymous" donations and such come from. Maybe there are people out there who have had "fun" with Caylee and Casey, and are willing to pay a lot of money to keep it from coming to light.

Lee keeps asking "how do you feel?" like Brian was expecting it to be fun or something.

But it was uploaded in December 2006.  I don't think it's related . . . but if the boy (Lee) had any common sense he would take the video off of myspace.

Big IF!!!

Hmmmm. Just horsing around, then. Probably Lee's a bit dim in some ways and doesn't even realize there's a connection. I know a lot of people like that. They seem smart but they don't connect things.

Like, not making the connection between paper tape on your roommate in 2006, and duct tape on your niece in 2008. There are a lot of other videos on his page and he probably forgot about it or thought of it as just one of many party clips.

My blackmail theory doesn't hold water--if he were blackmailing, he wouldn't have the tape up--he'd be threatening to put it up. So never mind that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:23:38 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:24:54 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen
Thank yop,   I just feel like something is fishy with all this and of course if JP,s family is in anyway trying to cover something up and keep Caseys mouth shut,they would be annonmous, like the persons that put up the bond money was, they have several different businesses and one of them is in Miami, also isnt Jose' from the same nationallity as JP,

  Oh and CBB maid my avatar, and yes I love it ...she done a terrific job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 01:26:07 AM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

Who is the girl doing the taping of Brian?

She looks remarkably like Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 01:28:06 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.

Also, didn't Amy say that JP Chatt did not like Casey?

Seems I remember her saying that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:29:13 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.
I'll bet too......and getting a girl pregnant wouldnt set well with Jp's family at all....Ive done some reading up on them and they seem to be held with the highest regards and certainly wouldnt want it ot be known that someone like Casey had a child with their son and would want it kept quiet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 01:31:10 AM

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Yes, with this theory, Cindy would have known at this point that Caylee was dead and at least some of the particulars of the case. I am just saying that this angle is something to look at. It's possible, you know! This is one MESSED UP family! And this case has had more twists and turns in it than anyone could imagine. And there has to be more coming.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks, B!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:31:10 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.

Also, didn't Amy say that JP Chatt did not like Casey?

Seems I remember her saying that.
I remember that too, but then he wouldnt like Casey if it was just a one night thing and she got pregnant on purpose knowing how wealthy his family was, and they would pay to keep it quiet Im sure......They are millionaires for crying out loud!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 01:31:55 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

Who is the girl doing the taping of Brian?

She looks remarkably like Casey.


CBB link me back to that post please, I forgot to bookmark the video site of Lee's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:32:08 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.

Also, didn't Amy say that JP Chatt did not like Casey?

Seems I remember her saying that.

Good to "see" you Brandi!

Aww you don't have to like each other to do "that"!  I've been married, I know this to be true (just kidding).

Perhaps JP doth protest too much, perhaps he denies it because he doesn't want anyone to know.  Or perhaps Casey treated him like the former police officer (remember the police officer said Casey was like the man, taking off afterwards)?

Karen



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 01:34:10 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

Who is the girl doing the taping of Brian?

She looks remarkably like Casey.


CBB link me back to that post please, I forgot to bookmark the video site of Lee's.

I'll check back in the morning. 

GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 01:36:33 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

Wow, HH, you're good!  And you've been busy!!!  Those are some very good points.  I always thought JB Chatt was the dad, based on his looks.

Also:  oh my goodness, your valentine avatar is just so adorable!

Karen

JB Chatt swears he never slept with Casey. But I'll bet he's lying.

Also, didn't Amy say that JP Chatt did not like Casey?

Seems I remember her saying that.

Good to "see" you Brandi!

Aww you don't have to like each other to do "that"!  I've been married, I know this to be true (just kidding).

Perhaps JP doth protest too much, perhaps he denies it because he doesn't want anyone to know.  Or perhaps Casey treated him like the former police officer (remember the police officer said Casey was like the man, taking off afterwards)?

Karen



heh .. all good points, Karen!

And howdy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 01:36:56 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

Who is the girl doing the taping of Brian?

She looks remarkably like Casey.


CBB link me back to that post please, I forgot to bookmark the video site of Lee's.

I'll check back in the morning. 

GOODNIGHT ALL!

Hello and good night, Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:41:45 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: shanfel on January 02, 2009, 01:42:11 AM

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Yes, with this theory, Cindy would have known at this point that Caylee was dead and at least some of the particulars of the case. I am just saying that this angle is something to look at. It's possible, you know! This is one MESSED UP family! And this case has had more twists and turns in it than anyone could imagine. And there has to be more coming.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks, B!

The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:46:49 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 01:48:25 AM
Hi Monkeys!

Just saying hello -- been reading for a long time and finally got caught up.

I want to say to Hudsunn and NoRoseCG (and others) that I agree with you that the HUGE family secret, whatever it may be, that seems to need protecting more than their beautiful precious little granddaughter, and more than truth and honor etc., has to be something pretty major.  Wonder if we will ever know?  What secret is so scary and potentially damaging to the Anthonys, that it is worth it to them to risk not only Caylee's life, but their own livelihood, their money/savings, their home, good name, public opinion, their daughter, and ultimately perhaps, their very freedom....?  It is said that we are only as sick as the secrets we keep.

Also, in Post #502 on this thread
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607569#msg607569 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607569#msg607569)
JodyO points out that in the NE article posted by Klaasend (thank you!), KT's story seems to imply that Cindy knew Casey was pg earlier than Rick's story would indicate.
Though NE is perhaps not the best of sources, it's something to think about.  Cindy knowing Casey was pg, but PRETENDING in the face of all evidence NOT to know... well, that sounds like a dress rehearsal for what she's been doing since "Day One."

And in Post #526,
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607605#msg607605 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg607605#msg607605)
Abbey09 hit upon something important:

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How would Conway know what LE took from their house???  They weren't even home during the first search, they were on a plane.  I don't think LE is gonna share what they took, sooo that leaves open.....how did the Ants know there wasn't any duct tape unless they removed it themselves prior to the search.  Sounds suspicious

Re duct tape:  I also want to add to the Monkeys who have quoted Amy's message to Casey re "you lost my duct tape," that I read an exchange elsewhere (I think in IM records?) between Amy and Casey, discussing Amy's use of duct tape for her costume at the May 25 ABC party at "LakeVaj".  I believe that following that party, Casey was in possession of a role of gaff tape (or duct tape) that Amy had used for the party that night.

Happy New Year to all, and I really do enjoy lurking and reading here, even though catching up doesn't leave me much time to post....

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:48:37 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

Also, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense, back when Casey was looking up kidnapping on the comp, what if she was thinking about staging a kidnapping to get money from JP's family, like asking him for the ransom money, and they prolly would have agreed to give it to her if she didnt say anything about who the babies father was, and something went wrong and Caylee ended up dead.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 02, 2009, 01:49:10 AM
Babybear, I agree completely that the only time we've seen (well, heard) true emotion from Cindy was in that 911 call.  I feel that it was true panic.  I don't know at what point she shifted gears, but I think the only way she could have would have been coming from a place of desperation - needing to believe the abduction story in order to survive. 

At some point before the body was found, I think she came to terms with the fact that Caylee was dead.  At that point, though, she was already on autopilot trying to save her daughter's ass - more in an attempt to alleviate her own guilt than anything else, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 01:49:52 AM
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Aww you don't have to like each other to do "that"!  I've been married, I know this to be true (just kidding).

SPARKY!!!

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:50:51 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.


???

pull a train

1 definition - When a group of men, one after the other, take on relations with a man or woman - usually from behind.
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I vote E.

If he made it up, perhaps it reflects what he assumes Casey was up to during that time or what all kids of Casey's age are up to.  For instance, perhaps he thought because Casey was always on the phone texting and on the 'puter on myspace that she was getting a lot of action.  He's my age or perhaps younger than me (I'm 53) and I can relate to thinking that about young people that put themselves out there so much on the phone and the net.  Ironically, the family probably didn't know that much about the guys she dated/her sexual activity because she was probably secretive.

But for the grace of God go I . . .

He claimed to know that this happened at a party in December. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, but I kind of wonder about a guy who would say this stuff about his own niece. It suggests that they're not a very close family. I think if a rumor like this were going around about my sister, my family would close ranks and insist it wasn't true, even if it was true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 01:51:39 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

Who is the girl doing the taping of Brian?

She looks remarkably like Casey.


CBB link me back to that post please, I forgot to bookmark the video site of Lee's.

Sorry Klaas, I was cruising other threads. Here's the link!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=4715373


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:51:43 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: shanfel on January 02, 2009, 01:53:51 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!

But why would they go to so much trouble to help the woman who possibly murdered their grandchild/child? Just to keep the paternity secret?

Honestly asking, not being sarcastic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:54:29 AM

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Yes, with this theory, Cindy would have known at this point that Caylee was dead and at least some of the particulars of the case. I am just saying that this angle is something to look at. It's possible, you know! This is one MESSED UP family! And this case has had more twists and turns in it than anyone could imagine. And there has to be more coming.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks, B!

The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.

Well many of us monkeys have said why wouldn't they have just reported the accident.  Perhaps they couldn't report it because of the long term use of xanax on Caylee.  I imagine George and Spindy would know that it would be an issue if they called the police, that it would show up in tests.  Well if that's why they didn't want to report it as an accident, then I think either Casey said no we can't report it because I gave her xanax OR Cindy and George knew about it.

The only other reason that I think they wouldn't want to report it as an accident is from a knee jerk reaction of covering for themselves, they probably are used to hiding skeletons in their closet.

All in all, I just can't see this big cover up for an accident.   But then again, I am applying rational standards to an irrational family!

Karen



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:54:52 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

Sure does. Only how would they know he was Caylee's father? Were they in the room at the conception? Did he come home and tell them? If a guy doesn't want to be the father, he doesn't have to. It takes a paternity test to prove he is, and unless she springs for one, he's pretty safe. The family doesn't have to pay thousands to insure she not tell about it. She wasn't talking about it anyway.

IMO whoever is forking out all this money is doing so over a LOT higher stakes than just not wanting to pay child support.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 02, 2009, 01:55:33 AM
The only thing about that theory, higherhopes, is that I don't think the Chatt's would be dense enough not to realize that the risk of someone knowing that their son was Caylee's father is nothing compared to the risk they'd be taking if they put up money to help her avoid going to jail for killing their granddaughter.

I am not so skeptical of Casey having had the idea to pull a stunt with the kidnapping for ransom approach, though.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 01:56:45 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

Also, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense, back when Casey was looking up kidnapping on the comp, what if she was thinking about staging a kidnapping to get money from JP's family, like asking him for the ransom money, and they prolly would have agreed to give it to her if she didnt say anything about who the babies father was, and something went wrong and Caylee ended up dead.........

BINGO!  You really have your thinking cap on tonight!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:58:23 AM
Night Monkeys~see ya tomorrow.

HH~I always thought Caylee looked like JP ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:58:28 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!

But why would they go to so much trouble to help the woman who possibly murdered their grandchild/child? Just to keep the paternity secret?

Honestly asking, not being sarcastic.

It is my understanding that JP has a girl that his family approves of and that they are planning on getting married and they were together back when Casey would have conceaved Caylee, so that would be one reason, and the other being that they just didnt want ot be associated with Casey and her family, I mean these people are millionaires and they are from PR, I dont know what kind of rules they live by there or anything........thneir religion........alot of thing could make them want to keep this quiet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:59:03 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!

But why would they go to so much trouble to help the woman who possibly murdered their grandchild/child? Just to keep the paternity secret?

Honestly asking, not being sarcastic.


IMO all this trouble, all this money, is covering something big, like a child pornography ring or a drug ring or both. It just wouldn't be worth it to help Casey in order to conceal paternity...unless the father is a government official or a very wealthy and powerful married man whose money comes mainly from his wife.  If a guy stood to lose his job, marriage, and reputation, and income, and that $500,000 bond were a drop in the bucket, he might well pay it, and more, to keep it from coming to light.

But that presupposes he knows they might be able to prove it, and it also presupposes that they didn't already try.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flossy on January 02, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
Night Monkeys~see ya tomorrow.

HH~I always thought Caylee looked like JP ::MonkeyConfused::

Goodnight, IM.  I think Caylee looks a lot like JP, too.  (I still subscribe to the more sinister theory, though)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: shanfel on January 02, 2009, 01:59:44 AM


The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.
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Well many of us monkeys have said why wouldn't they have just reported the accident.  Perhaps they couldn't report it because of the long term use of xanax on Caylee.  I imagine George and Spindy would know that it would be an issue if they called the police, that it would show up in tests.  Well if that's why they didn't want to report it as an accident, then I think either Casey said no we can't report it because I gave her xanax OR Cindy and George knew about it.

The only other reason that I think they wouldn't want to report it as an accident is from a knee jerk reaction of covering for themselves, they probably are used to hiding skeletons in their closet.

All in all, I just can't see this big cover up for an accident.   But then again, I am applying rational standards to an irrational family!

Karen


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Thinking that myself, but... what if Caylee was hurt somehow in this fight that would lead to charges of involuntary manslaughter? What if they were throwing things and Caylee got hit- or Casey got mad and kicked Caylee (into something, too hard, etc.)? I can see that type of accident making CA choke Casey, but maybe also cover up for her in some twisted way.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:02:26 AM
The only thing about that theory, higherhopes, is that I don't think the Chatt's would be dense enough not to realize that the risk of someone knowing that their son was Caylee's father is nothing compared to the risk they'd be taking if they put up money to help her avoid going to jail for killing their granddaughter.

I am not so skeptical of Casey having had the idea to pull a stunt with the kidnapping for ransom approach, though.....
Me either, it would be the fastest way for her to make money and get out of the Anthony';s house, and if they continues  to support Casey throughout all this how would anybody ever find out, with Jose being a lawyer Im sure he would have already wrote up some kind of legal document for Casey to sign that would keep her quiet about this..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:02:35 AM
Night Monkeys~see ya tomorrow.

HH~I always thought Caylee looked like JP ::MonkeyConfused::

Goodnight, IM.  I think Caylee looks a lot like JP, too.  (I still subscribe to the more sinister theory, though)


 ::MonkeyEek:: Actually I do too!!!

Bombshell _ LP is really Caylee's father ~J/K, just needed to throw out a wild theory tonight ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:02:45 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!

But why would they go to so much trouble to help the woman who possibly murdered their grandchild/child? Just to keep the paternity secret?

Honestly asking, not being sarcastic.

It is my understanding that JP has a girl that his family approves of and that they are planning on getting married and they were together back when Casey would have conceaved Caylee, so that would be one reason, and the other being that they just didnt want ot be associated with Casey and her family, I mean these people are millionaires and they are from PR, I dont know what kind of rules they live by there or anything........thneir religion........alot of thing could make them want to keep this quiet!

JP Chatt's parents are millionaires? I would think Casey and her parents would have attached like barnacles and demanded $. Lots of money.
It gives him motive to murder Caylee and could almost create reasonable doubt if Chatt can be proven to be anywhere near Casey or her car during the time Caylee disappeared.

Because if the child is dead you no longer have to pay child support, and comparing your DNA could prove tricky. (If they didn't already have her DNA, which they do.)

The only thing is, Chatt would have dealt with this years and years ago if it were really him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 02:03:01 AM
Night Monkeys~see ya tomorrow.

HH~I always thought Caylee looked like JP ::MonkeyConfused::

Good night, islandmonkey.

I also think JP looked the most like Caylee of all the "suitors" I have seen in this case. Guess I should have said, of all the males in Casey's life.

I am going to try to go to bed and not stay up all night like I have been doing lately! So good night to all you left coasters and night owl monkeys! See you tomorrow!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:04:12 AM
Please forgive the slightly OT question, but does anyone here know this:

Early on, Cindy stated (to Greta? to LE?  don't remember!) that on the night of Father's Day, Sunday June 15, after returning with Caylee from Mt. Dora, Caylee went swimming with (Cindy? Casey?).  She claimed that at some point, someone (Cindy? Casey?) took her out of the pool "because she was cold."

She then continued on with the "tucked them into bed together" story.  This was, of course, before news of the horrible fight b/t Cindy and Casey ever came out.

Does anyone remember the details of the Caylee-went-swimming story?  Who did Cindy tell this to?  Did she ever elaborate, or repeat it again?

And does anyone remember the date that Cindy says she and George came home to discover their gate open and the pool ladder on the pool?  Was it the 16th?  Or some other date?

TIA.

(The "took her out of the pool because she was cold" comment gave me chills myself when I heard this, and I've never forgotten it...)

Desi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:04:24 AM
Night Monkeys~see ya tomorrow.

HH~I always thought Caylee looked like JP ::MonkeyConfused::

Me, too.  But she also looks like Mark Hawkins.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bongosmom on January 02, 2009, 02:04:30 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

And perhaps this financial help and extortion so to speak (or bribery) goes back to the second time Casey was bonded out.

Things that make you wanna go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

(Could that also be how Case was financing her lifestyle, without having any steady or known employment?)
I wouldnt doubt this at all and it makes more sense then any thing else about how Jose became Casey's lawyer, where the money is coming from. why Casey acts like she isnt worried, because she knows that she will have the best defense team money can buy,       Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...this makes a lot of sense!

But why would they go to so much trouble to help the woman who possibly murdered their grandchild/child? Just to keep the paternity secret?

Honestly asking, not being sarcastic.

It is my understanding that JP has a girl that his family approves of and that they are planning on getting married and they were together back when Casey would have conceaved Caylee, so that would be one reason, and the other being that they just didnt want ot be associated with Casey and her family, I mean these people are millionaires and they are from PR, I dont know what kind of rules they live by there or anything........thneir religion........alot of thing could make them want to keep this quiet!
This is really good, HH.  I also thought she looked a lot like JP, too.  Then I was thinking why would his family go to such lengths to avoid having paternity exposed, and I had a thought - what if it's not JP who is the daddy, but JP's father?  Casey does seem to go for "authority" figures. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:06:44 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:06:54 AM


The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.

Well many of us monkeys have said why wouldn't they have just reported the accident.  Perhaps they couldn't report it because of the long term use of xanax on Caylee.  I imagine George and Spindy would know that it would be an issue if they called the police, that it would show up in tests.  Well if that's why they didn't want to report it as an accident, then I think either Casey said no we can't report it because I gave her xanax OR Cindy and George knew about it.

The only other reason that I think they wouldn't want to report it as an accident is from a knee jerk reaction of covering for themselves, they probably are used to hiding skeletons in their closet.

All in all, I just can't see this big cover up for an accident.   But then again, I am applying rational standards to an irrational family!

Karen


[/quote]

Thinking that myself, but... what if Caylee was hurt somehow in this fight that would lead to charges of involuntary manslaughter? What if they were throwing things and Caylee got hit- or Casey got mad and kicked Caylee (into something, too hard, etc.)? I can see that type of accident making CA choke Casey, but maybe also cover up for her in some twisted way.


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Hmmm, I see your point and that could be a possibility but those injuries would cause a problem but would be explained as unrelated to the negligence of her falling in the pool. 

You are a very smart monkey, I will give you that!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:09:17 AM


The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.

Well many of us monkeys have said why wouldn't they have just reported the accident.  Perhaps they couldn't report it because of the long term use of xanax on Caylee.  I imagine George and Spindy would know that it would be an issue if they called the police, that it would show up in tests.  Well if that's why they didn't want to report it as an accident, then I think either Casey said no we can't report it because I gave her xanax OR Cindy and George knew about it.

The only other reason that I think they wouldn't want to report it as an accident is from a knee jerk reaction of covering for themselves, they probably are used to hiding skeletons in their closet.

All in all, I just can't see this big cover up for an accident.   But then again, I am applying rational standards to an irrational family!

Karen


[/quote]

Thinking that myself, but... what if Caylee was hurt somehow in this fight that would lead to charges of involuntary manslaughter? What if they were throwing things and Caylee got hit- or Casey got mad and kicked Caylee (into something, too hard, etc.)? I can see that type of accident making CA choke Casey, but maybe also cover up for her in some twisted way.


[/quote]

This family might try to hide an accident if it upset them a lot, or if admitting about the accident would expose something they wanted to keep hidden. But I think all of them would have cracked by now if it really had been an accident. This was a murder. Casey did it alone. Cindy tried to believe that someone else could have done it or that there was a different body, perhaps killed in self-defense, in that car, and she held onto that until it was impossible to hold onto it any longer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:10:52 AM


The only thing I can think of is that on the night of the 15th, Caylee fell inot the pool during the CA/KC fight, or, that the fight was after CA found Caylee in the pool that night due to KC's negligence. At that point the whole family goes into cover-up mode...Cindy's blog about how "Caylee left her life the same way she came into her life" (paraphrasing) has always bothered me. I've heard this remark made when someone has died..not been taken by her mother. Maybe she came into her life because of her mothers mistakes and left her life because of her mothers mistakes?

Also they "what have you done?" CA is reported to have said to KC the night of the 911 calls also doesn't sit well. Maybe KC had threatened the family secret somehow and CA decided to get in the first offensive move...call in Casey...or maybe the plan all along was to send Casey out to CA with friends so that no one in FLA would ask about Caylee, (to Hawkins "I've alreadt talked to my mom and dad, and theres something I need to tell you." Talked the plan out with them?) and when the car was towed they realized she hadn't and the cover-up was in jeopardy? Or maybe the car was supposed to be found...but Casey wasn't?

In any case... they would feel confident in sacrficing Casey for a bit, thinking George as a former LE could find ways to get her off.

*shrug* That's all I got in the CA/GA knew department.

Well many of us monkeys have said why wouldn't they have just reported the accident.  Perhaps they couldn't report it because of the long term use of xanax on Caylee.  I imagine George and Spindy would know that it would be an issue if they called the police, that it would show up in tests.  Well if that's why they didn't want to report it as an accident, then I think either Casey said no we can't report it because I gave her xanax OR Cindy and George knew about it.

The only other reason that I think they wouldn't want to report it as an accident is from a knee jerk reaction of covering for themselves, they probably are used to hiding skeletons in their closet.

All in all, I just can't see this big cover up for an accident.   But then again, I am applying rational standards to an irrational family!

Karen



Thinking that myself, but... what if Caylee was hurt somehow in this fight that would lead to charges of involuntary manslaughter? What if they were throwing things and Caylee got hit- or Casey got mad and kicked Caylee (into something, too hard, etc.)? I can see that type of accident making CA choke Casey, but maybe also cover up for her in some twisted way.


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Hmmm, I see your point and that could be a possibility but those injuries would cause a problem but would be explained as unrelated to the negligence of her falling in the pool. 

You are a very smart monkey, I will give you that!

Karen
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Plus there's no trauma to the bones--nothing that shows any kind of injury. Whatever caused her death, it wasn't a broken neck or a skull fracture or anything like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:10:57 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Hi CBB.  You look beautiful.  (I don't know you, but feel like I do from reading Peaches' beautiful thread for hours.....)

Anyway, I have always wondered if perhaps Caylee's body being found might lead to the daddy being brought to light.... I think you are onto something there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:12:09 AM
Please forgive the slightly OT question, but does anyone here know this:

Early on, Cindy stated (to Greta? to LE?  don't remember!) that on the night of Father's Day, Sunday June 15, after returning with Caylee from Mt. Dora, Caylee went swimming with (Cindy? Casey?).  She claimed that at some point, someone (Cindy? Casey?) took her out of the pool "because she was cold."

She then continued on with the "tucked them into bed together" story.  This was, of course, before news of the horrible fight b/t Cindy and Casey ever came out.

Does anyone remember the details of the Caylee-went-swimming story?  Who did Cindy tell this to?  Did she ever elaborate, or repeat it again?

And does anyone remember the date that Cindy says she and George came home to discover their gate open and the pool ladder on the pool?  Was it the 16th?  Or some other date?

TIA.

(The "took her out of the pool because she was cold" comment gave me chills myself when I heard this, and I've never forgotten it...)

Desi

I'm looking, Desi! I think it was in the same show as Greta's interview that took her to the Ants backyard.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:13:11 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:13:26 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:14:27 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Hi CBB.  You look beautiful.  (I don't know you, but feel like I do from reading Peaches' beautiful thread for hours.....)

Anyway, I have always wondered if perhaps Caylee's body being found might lead to the daddy being brought to light.... I think you are onto something there.


Thank you, and thank you also for your touching contribution in Peache's thread. It was the last one that made me cry!!! It was beautiful, and even though I don't know you either, I know enough to want to!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:15:18 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm wound up tonight but brain isn't working nearly so well as my fellow monkeys.  But I do remember on at least 5 occasions that a monkey or difference monkeys have reported that LE does know who the father is.  If that is true, and if it's JP Chatt, they would have also connected the dots, right?

Us monkeys need a big virtual "war room" for all of the information we have collected so we can sort this out!

It's been he double el having extra time on my hands cause of the holiday but nothing happening in the case.

The only comfort is knowing that most of us monkeys are feeling that way right now (except for the ones that got smart and pulled themselves away from the 'puter for a while)!

Boyfriend is getting pretty sick of my obsession. 

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:16:01 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

That was LP speculating based on the fact that too many of the DNA markers matched Casey. There ought to be about a 50% match to a parent. If there is more than 50%, that suggests the parents were related, because some of the paternal DNA is matching the maternal DNA.  A brother and sister as parents, could have a child whose DNA matches the mothers 75%.  A father and daughter could have a match that's up to 100%.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:16:46 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:17:01 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

Mytime!  Good to see you, you are looking MAHVELOUS!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:17:23 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:17:27 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm wound up tonight but brain isn't working nearly so well as my fellow monkeys.  But I do remember on at least 5 occasions that a monkey or difference monkeys have reported that LE does know who the father is.  If that is true, and if it's JP Chatt, they would have also connected the dots, right?

Us monkeys need a big virtual "war room" for all of the information we have collected so we can sort this out!

It's been he double el having extra time on my hands cause of the holiday but nothing happening in the case.

The only comfort is knowing that most of us monkeys are feeling that way right now (except for the ones that got smart and pulled themselves away from the 'puter for a while)!

Boyfriend is getting pretty sick of my obsession. 

Karen

If LE knows who the father is, then it's Lee or George. Because that's whose DNA they have, and because they didn't do a paternity test--they just would be able to see that there's too much correlation between Caylee and Casey, for the father to be unrelated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:17:55 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

I realize that Dr. Baden is not part of this case, but he has said many times that they already know who the father is, and that it would be something that would be investigated if for no other reason, to rule out that the father might have been a player in what happened in some way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:19:05 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!

He knew he had sex with Casey.  I just can't imagine being a man, hearing that a girl I once slept with had a child the right age to be mine, and not trying to find out. But most men really don't care, as long as nobody asks them for money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:19:12 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:19:19 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm wound up tonight but brain isn't working nearly so well as my fellow monkeys.  But I do remember on at least 5 occasions that a monkey or difference monkeys have reported that LE does know who the father is.  If that is true, and if it's JP Chatt, they would have also connected the dots, right?

Us monkeys need a big virtual "war room" for all of the information we have collected so we can sort this out!

It's been he double el having extra time on my hands cause of the holiday but nothing happening in the case.

The only comfort is knowing that most of us monkeys are feeling that way right now (except for the ones that got smart and pulled themselves away from the 'puter for a while)!

Boyfriend is getting pretty sick of my obsession. 

Karen

If LE knows who the father is, then it's Lee or George. Because that's whose DNA they have, and because they didn't do a paternity test--they just would be able to see that there's too much correlation between Caylee and Casey, for the father to be unrelated.

Well, if that's true, I would say it's Lee.  He's such a weirdo.  And that flirting between Casey and Lee in the jailhouse videos, very disturbing . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!

He knew he had sex with Casey.  I just can't imagine being a man, hearing that a girl I once slept with had a child the right age to be mine, and not trying to find out. But most men really don't care, as long as nobody asks them for money.

da nile ain't just a river in Egypt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:22:08 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

I don't think a guy who either didn't know he was the father, or knew and fought like hell to keep it from coming out, is entitled to Caylee's remains. She's not a pizza or a stock--there aren't "equal shares" or "rights" to her.

Cindy Anthony raised her. She is the one who feels the loss, bore the expense and the responsibility and is taking the hatred and the flack for her failure. Cindy is the one and only person entitled to bury her, mourn her, and pay the rest of her life for what she didn't do in time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:22:15 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

It would have a bearing to whom Caylee'e remains would go to!!  Also, Cindy lied to LE about seeing an attorney after Caylee was born!  LE does not anybody consent on what they may piblic.  As we see daily from tabloids, having money does not buy privacy! IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: marymary on January 02, 2009, 02:24:46 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

Goodevening Mytime,

Speculating is the name of the game here.  I had a thought about the Lee being father possibility today.  Was thinking that Casey worked until after she had Caylee, than the lieing began.  Just was wondering if Casey felt that since she was doing most of the caretaking of Caylee that he should be responsible for the financial responsibilities.  Could that be why she refused to work??  Why no one seemed to push her about her working, and why she felt she could steal from her parents?  All just speculation of course.

Now having said that might I add you look like you had a very Happy New Year.  Guess it's time to put back the old casuals again soon, though I love your formal wear!!   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:25:18 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

I don't think a guy who either didn't know he was the father, or knew and fought like hell to keep it from coming out, is entitled to Caylee's remains. She's not a pizza or a stock--there aren't "equal shares" or "rights" to her.

Cindy Anthony raised her. She is the one who feels the loss, bore the expense and the responsibility and is taking the hatred and the flack for her failure. Cindy is the one and only person entitled to bury her, mourn her, and pay the rest of her life for what she didn't do in time.

I'm sure that someone could decline the authority, but legally the Father is as "next of kin" as the Mother. Even Casey had to sign something to allow her family to assume that responsiblity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:26:25 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!

He knew he had sex with Casey.  I just can't imagine being a man, hearing that a girl I once slept with had a child the right age to be mine, and not trying to find out. But most men really don't care, as long as nobody asks them for money.

I have to totally disagree with that statement!  Maybe it was just a one nighter and just maybe he has contacted LE.  I have no idea but will not think the worse until there is some facts to base it on!!  I don't concider LP a very reliable source either!!  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:27:49 AM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

Also, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense, back when Casey was looking up kidnapping on the comp, what if she was thinking about staging a kidnapping to get money from JP's family, like asking him for the ransom money, and they prolly would have agreed to give it to her if she didnt say anything about who the babies father was, and something went wrong and Caylee ended up dead.........

BINGO!  You really have your thinking cap on tonight!!!!!
I think I am gonna do some more backtracking on JP and asking a few more questions also......but it would certainly make sense to me of how casey come to get Jose as a lawyer so quickly, and the secretcy surrounding the fathers identity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 02:28:03 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

Goodevening Mytime,

Speculating is the name of the game here.  I had a thought about the Lee being father possibility today.  Was thinking that Casey worked until after she had Caylee, than the lieing began.  Just was wondering if Casey felt that since she was doing most of the caretaking of Caylee that he should be responsible for the financial responsibilities.  Could that be why she refused to work??  Why no one seemed to push her about her working, and why she felt she could steal from her parents?  All just speculation of course.

Now having said that might I add you look like you had a very Happy New Year.  Guess it's time to put back the old casuals again soon, though I love your formal wear!!   ::MonkeyWink:: 

If you're going to "slip into something more comfortable", we're back to the headlights!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:28:55 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

I don't think a guy who either didn't know he was the father, or knew and fought like hell to keep it from coming out, is entitled to Caylee's remains. She's not a pizza or a stock--there aren't "equal shares" or "rights" to her.

Cindy Anthony raised her. She is the one who feels the loss, bore the expense and the responsibility and is taking the hatred and the flack for her failure. Cindy is the one and only person entitled to bury her, mourn her, and pay the rest of her life for what she didn't do in time.

She also protected her killer and only God knows what else!!  I have no sympathy for any of them!  I have tried to but they have made it down right impossible!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:32:13 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!

He knew he had sex with Casey.  I just can't imagine being a man, hearing that a girl I once slept with had a child the right age to be mine, and not trying to find out. But most men really don't care, as long as nobody asks them for money.

I have to totally disagree with that statement!  Maybe it was just a one nighter and just maybe he has contacted LE.  I have no idea but will not think the worse until there is some facts to base it on!!  I don't concider LP a very reliable source either!!  JMO

Mytime, it seems like Padilla is speculating and that's appropriate for a forum but not appropriate to present it as fact on tv or to the press!  I think he is taking stabs in the dark.  It is really frustrating to me that NG never asks Padilla what the source of his information is.  I think she just has him on there to make these controversial statements for ratings.  She doesn't allow that from any of her other guests . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:33:20 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:33:26 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?



Im also gonna check into this Cyndy Baez and see if she is attached to Jose's family in some way if I can find anything out that is!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:34:33 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: marymary on January 02, 2009, 02:35:25 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

Goodevening Mytime,

Speculating is the name of the game here.  I had a thought about the Lee being father possibility today.  Was thinking that Casey worked until after she had Caylee, than the lieing began.  Just was wondering if Casey felt that since she was doing most of the caretaking of Caylee that he should be responsible for the financial responsibilities.  Could that be why she refused to work??  Why no one seemed to push her about her working, and why she felt she could steal from her parents?  All just speculation of course.

Now having said that might I add you look like you had a very Happy New Year.  Guess it's time to put back the old casuals again soon, though I love your formal wear!!   ::MonkeyWink:: 

If you're going to "slip into something more comfortable", we're back to the headlights!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

A monkey woman must not reveal too much, it is the mystery that make me so alluring!!   ::MonkeyRoll::  Perhaps a little heart on my camisole. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:38:12 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:38:44 AM
Hi MM - I am not changing my formal wear.  Every day is my new year!   ::MonkeyWink::
And my you are looking quite foxy!!  CBB was your number!  LOL

I didn't know that Speculation was the Name of the Game!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I guess I can make up all kinds of stuff too then!!  Maybe Caylee father is Jebb Bush!  They met at Universal and had a one stand!  She has been blackmailing him for years and he is bankrolling her whole defense!!   ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyWink::

twins??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:40:26 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::
  I dont doubt that by now the LE may know who the father is but if that person does not want it known that he is and he has the money like JP's family does...I doubt they could make it public knowledge without his consent, and if its not gonna hve a bearing on this case on way or the other, they could keep it from coming out!

I don't think a guy who either didn't know he was the father, or knew and fought like hell to keep it from coming out, is entitled to Caylee's remains. She's not a pizza or a stock--there aren't "equal shares" or "rights" to her.

Cindy Anthony raised her. She is the one who feels the loss, bore the expense and the responsibility and is taking the hatred and the flack for her failure. Cindy is the one and only person entitled to bury her, mourn her, and pay the rest of her life for what she didn't do in time.

She also protected her killer and only God knows what else!!  I have no sympathy for any of them!  I have tried to but they have made it down right impossible!!! 

We don't have to have sympathy for them, but the fact remains that Cindy cared for that child, and whoever her "father" is didn't even care enough about her to find out whether she existed or not. I have no sympathy for him, either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:41:00 AM
Here are a couple of comparisons of JP and Caylee:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 02, 2009, 02:41:30 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

That was LP speculating based on the fact that too many of the DNA markers matched Casey. There ought to be about a 50% match to a parent. If there is more than 50%, that suggests the parents were related, because some of the paternal DNA is matching the maternal DNA.  A brother and sister as parents, could have a child whose DNA matches the mothers 75%.  A father and daughter could have a match that's up to 100%.

But that DNA result was done at the time that they tested the hairbrush that Cindy gave them and told them it was Caylee's hairbrush!  We have later found out that the hairbrush was in fact Casey's, and LE said that there was no difference between Caylee and Casey DNA, and they knew Casey was alive, so that it had to be Casey's DNA.  I bet they know now that they have Caylee's DNA that the hair in the trunk was Caylee's hair and not Casey's hair.  Cindy should not get immunity just based on the hairbrush alone!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:44:25 AM
Yes  Desi,  I very much see the resemblence here with these two, I  wouldnt be surprised if casey didnt get pregnant by JP and it prolly was a one night stand, seeing as the word now is that JP cant stand Casey..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:44:46 AM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?



Im also gonna check into this Cyndy Baez and see if she is attached to Jose's family in some way if I can find anything out that is!

The info you posted on the Chatt's was very interseting?  Can you please post a link to it?  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: marymary on January 02, 2009, 02:46:03 AM
Hi MM - I am not changing my formal wear.  Every day is my new year!   ::MonkeyWink::
And my you are looking quite foxy!!  CBB was your number!  LOL

I didn't know that Speculation was the Name of the Game!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I guess I can make up all kinds of stuff too then!!  Maybe Caylee father is Jebb Bush!  They met at Universal and had a one stand!  She has been blackmailing him for years and he is bankrolling her whole defense!!   ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyWink::

twins??

Ahhh very imaginative but please don't give Casey and family any new idea's.  The Bush's have had enough negative publicfity.  Could make for a great book though.

Twins (will update u and Bob later).  Such a worried Nana. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:46:11 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:47:02 AM

Fuzzball said:
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We don't have to have sympathy for them, but the fact remains that Cindy cared for that child, and whoever her "father" is didn't even care enough about her to find out whether she existed or not. I have no sympathy for him, either.

You are right about this, but there is always another possibility:

I know it is not fashionable to speculate whether Lee (or even George) could have been Caylee's father.... but if that were the case, then the issue you speak of would be explained...

Also, Cindy's "Eric" story to OCSO contained a big contradiction:  a) The father doesn't know about Caylee, and b) The father knew about Caylee and it was agreed that her existence would be kept a secret.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:47:49 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::
UHHH  I thought you had forgot about that by now!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 02:49:05 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.



I am not sure how we know all of this!!  I have to admit that you and I will have to agree to disagree beacuse I couldn't disagree more with this post!!  But you seem very smart and nice and have every right to your opinion too!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 02:49:27 AM
Yes  Desi,  I very much see the resemblence here with these two, I  wouldnt be surprised if casey didnt get pregnant by JP and it prolly was a one night stand, seeing as the word now is that JP cant stand Casey..........

The main problem with this theory (JP as Caylee's dad) is really that there is no evidence that I'm aware of that Casey and JP knew each other before last summer....

Anyone know any different????

And then we have Amy and Ricardo agreeing that JP made no bones about not liking Casey too much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 02:51:26 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::
UHHH  I thought you had forgot about that by now!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I only tease the ones I love . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:53:07 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::
UHHH  I thought you had forgot about that by now!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I only tease the ones I love . . .
well in that case.......................you may tease all you want to!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 02:56:33 AM
Hi MM - I am not changing my formal wear.  Every day is my new year!   ::MonkeyWink::
And my you are looking quite foxy!!  CBB was your number!  LOL

I didn't know that Speculation was the Name of the Game!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I guess I can make up all kinds of stuff too then!!  Maybe Caylee father is Jebb Bush!  They met at Universal and had a one stand!  She has been blackmailing him for years and he is bankrolling her whole defense!!   ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyWink::

twins??

Ahhh very imaginative but please don't give Casey and family any new idea's.  The Bush's have had enough negative publicfity.  Could make for a great book though.

Twins (will update u and Bob later).  Such a worried Nana. 

Can BG be updated too, please.  A worried Nana is not a good thing.  They do not sleep good and they eat too many snack cakes with pink fluffy coverings.     ::MonkeyNoNo::   Please keep cool.

What is your speculation as to who Caylee's father is?



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mytime on January 02, 2009, 03:00:22 AM
MM - Bob and I are waiting.  We dont want to speculate on them!  We just need the facts!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 03:07:30 AM
Just hopped over and read the latest posts on Peaches's thread, and wow, the tears came again... the poem posted there by Sleuth, about "Blossoms," well, wow, it did me in.
 ::MonkeyWaa::

It is very late, and I think I need to be done for the evening.  I am often overwhelmed with sadness about Caylee's story, and for tonight, the Peaches story has made my heart a little more heavy, so off to light a candle and focus on all the love and concern that help to counter it... you monkeys are incredible.

Thank you for letting me join you for awhile, night-crew!  Thank you for being smart and gentle.

Goodnight.  Bless you all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 03:08:07 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::
UHHH  I thought you had forgot about that by now!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I only tease the ones I love . . .
well in that case.......................you may tease all you want to!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

makes me think of when my dogs bring dead birds.  people tell me don't get mad, they are showing their love.  I say "I sure could use a little less love about now"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Just hopped over and read the latest posts on Peaches's thread, and wow, the tears came again... the poem posted there by Sleuth, about "Blossoms," well, wow, it did me in.
 ::MonkeyWaa::

It is very late, and I think I need to be done for the evening.  I am often overwhelmed with sadness about Caylee's story, and for tonight, the Peaches story has made my heart a little more heavy, so off to light a candle and focus on all the love and concern that help to counter it... you monkeys are incredible.

Thank you for letting me join you for awhile, night-crew!  Thank you for being smart and gentle.

Goodnight.  Bless you all.

Goodnight, and come back again.......God Bless You!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 03:12:55 AM
Okay, I'm new here, and not "up" on all the rules and customs...

I was just looking through all my pics (I have a TON) and saw several examples of what some of you are saying ... that JP Chatt and Caylee resemble one another.

I put some pics side-by-side -- is it allowed to post something like that here?

Desi


Yes we post pics here,,,,,,,,just dont do like me and make them gigantic......lol

or accidentally post pics of handsome relatives . . . HA HA!!!!!!    ::MonkeyLaugh::
UHHH  I thought you had forgot about that by now!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

I only tease the ones I love . . .
well in that case.......................you may tease all you want to!!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

makes me think of when my dogs bring dead birds.  people tell me don't get mad, they are showing their love.  I say "I sure could use a little less love about now"!
Yes,  sometimes we get Love in a way we dont want it...... ::MonkeyHaHa::   It was nice talking to you tonight and specuating about this case, but its getting late here and Im tired,   have a good night and I will talk again soon!!!GOODNIGHT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 03:17:06 AM
HH  -- before you go, can you give the link as to J.P. Chatt's family ?  I'd really like to know info on them as well, very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:18:36 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, he is!  It has been said - not sure if it has been confirmed or just rumor - that LE knew who the father was! Does anyone know if this has been confirmed before I start speculating?

That was LP speculating based on the fact that too many of the DNA markers matched Casey. There ought to be about a 50% match to a parent. If there is more than 50%, that suggests the parents were related, because some of the paternal DNA is matching the maternal DNA.  A brother and sister as parents, could have a child whose DNA matches the mothers 75%.  A father and daughter could have a match that's up to 100%.

But that DNA result was done at the time that they tested the hairbrush that Cindy gave them and told them it was Caylee's hairbrush!  We have later found out that the hairbrush was in fact Casey's, and LE said that there was no difference between Caylee and Casey DNA, and they knew Casey was alive, so that it had to be Casey's DNA.  I bet they know now that they have Caylee's DNA that the hair in the trunk was Caylee's hair and not Casey's hair.  Cindy should not get immunity just based on the hairbrush alone!



I absolutely agree that Cindy shouldn't get immunity. What she did with the hairbrush and the pants etc....was obstruction of justice and she was pretty flagrant about it. But wasn't that when LP was still there, and Casey was still in the home? IMO a lot of the things she said out loud about how she ought to give them the dog's brush etc...were for Casey's benefit, and not actually sincere.

But the hair in the trunk was Caylee's. There was never a chance of it being anyone else's because of that decomposition ring. and the hair matched because mitochondrial DNA matches your mother/grandmother/great-grandmother etc...100%. So that hair established that a dead female member of the the family was in that trunk decomposing. Narrows it down to Caylee pretty easily.

Apparently when they got their hands on the Jesse test it was too too obvious that the father had to be someone related to Casey.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:25:25 AM
Hi MM - I am not changing my formal wear.  Every day is my new year!   ::MonkeyWink::
And my you are looking quite foxy!!  CBB was your number!  LOL

I didn't know that Speculation was the Name of the Game!   ::MonkeyShocked::  I guess I can make up all kinds of stuff too then!!  Maybe Caylee father is Jebb Bush!  They met at Universal and had a one stand!  She has been blackmailing him for years and he is bankrolling her whole defense!!   ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyWink::

twins??
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

If it's relevant, (which if it's Lee or George, it is,) then we'll find out.

I'm at the point now where I actually hope it IS Lee or George, because if it's JP Chatt that gives defense a very fine "reasonable doubt" angle, and IMO they'll play it to the hilt. You could build a very good case there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 03:26:08 AM
Just hopped over and read the latest posts on Peaches's thread, and wow, the tears came again... the poem posted there by Sleuth, about "Blossoms," well, wow, it did me in.
 ::MonkeyWaa::

It is very late, and I think I need to be done for the evening.  I am often overwhelmed with sadness about Caylee's story, and for tonight, the Peaches story has made my heart a little more heavy, so off to light a candle and focus on all the love and concern that help to counter it... you monkeys are incredible.

Thank you for letting me join you for awhile, night-crew!  Thank you for being smart and gentle.

Goodnight.  Bless you all.

Goodnight, and come back again.......God Bless You!

nite nite!  (I fell asleep speculating!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:27:03 AM
Here are a couple of comparisons of JP and Caylee:


She's a dead ringer. No pun intended--she looks exactly like him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kimber on January 02, 2009, 03:39:58 AM
Hi Monkeys, Did ya'll watch NG tonight? Just wondering because she was playing Amy's interview, and Amy said that Cin was telling her about the fight on the 15th. Cin said that she had found a picture of the no clothes party and printed it out and was throwing it up in Casey's face, saying you were working huh? I don't remember hearing that part of the interview before. I was just wondering if I had missed it, or if this was new?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:43:53 AM
Hi guys!  :2waver:

I just watched the video of Cindy, where there's been discussion of her pupils. At first, I thought that it may be nothing. It appears to be dark out and because Cindy was speakig and looking directly at the interviewer instead of the camera and light source, I just attributed it to that. Our pupils get larger to let in maximum light in the dark.

However, I noticed later in the interview, when she swung her head toward the camera and light source, that her pupils remained the same. No question in my mind, she's taking medication that would cause that. Pupils react quickly to change when the amount of light changes. Cindy's didn't.

She doesn't appear to be slurring words beyond anything unusual or presenting with an unusual affect, so I doubt it's something super depressive. I don't know what it is or where she got it, but I'd bet a lot of money a blood test would show some kind of mood altering drug.

Yep. No question in my mind she's on some kind of painkillers and mood-altering chemicals. That's one thing she never tried to hide and never seems to have lied about--she's pretty up-front about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Charlie on January 02, 2009, 03:47:04 AM
Ya'll are good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kimber on January 02, 2009, 03:53:22 AM
HELLOOOOOOOOO[/font][/b]

Do I smell funny, or did everyone fall asleep?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 03:54:47 AM
HELLOOOOOOOOO[/font][/b]

Do I smell funny, or did everyone fall asleep?

Hi Kimber... I watched NG and saw that too, don't remember hearing it before tonight either.  She also said Caylee was at that no clothes party.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 03:59:07 AM
HELLOOOOOOOOO[/font][/b]

Do I smell funny, or did everyone fall asleep?
'

btw, if you want an avatar, you can go here and leave a message for CBB, she'll fix you up with whatever you want.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4293.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kimber on January 02, 2009, 04:01:06 AM
HELLOOOOOOOOO[/font][/b]

Do I smell funny, or did everyone fall asleep?

Hi Kimber... I watched NG and saw that too, don't remember hearing it before tonight either.  She also said Caylee was at that no clothes party.

I thought that was something that I hadn't heard before. It might be worth listening to the newly released tapes also. If I can stomach it again.
Thanks for the reply Bud's Girl!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kimber on January 02, 2009, 04:03:43 AM
HELLOOOOOOOOO[/font][/b]

Do I smell funny, or did everyone fall asleep?
'

btw, if you want an avatar, you can go here and leave a message for CBB, she'll fix you up with whatever you want.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4293.0

I'll do that! Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 04:09:28 AM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.
Wow!!  This is exactly what could end up happening!  I say it's all in the venue & jury selection at this point.  The only thing that gives me hope that she'll get a max sentence is how fast the GJ came back.  There's just too much new techno stuff in this case & a jury can be easily swayed by a good defense team.  Throw in blame & she could walk.  I hope not. 

That's what I meant about Cindy throwing herself under the bus for Casey. Maybe I saw the same Law & Order episode.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 04:38:07 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 02, 2009, 06:15:42 AM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.
Wow!!  This is exactly what could end up happening!  I say it's all in the venue & jury selection at this point.  The only thing that gives me hope that she'll get a max sentence is how fast the GJ came back.  There's just too much new techno stuff in this case & a jury can be easily swayed by a good defense team.  Throw in blame & she could walk.  I hope not. 

That's what I meant about Cindy throwing herself under the bus for Casey. Maybe I saw the same Law & Order episode.

OOH- that certainly explains why they're scrambling for Immunity. Now I'm really angry.
Great post, Red.   
Hopefully LE will understand the hidden agenda they have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: eternal0void on January 02, 2009, 06:18:16 AM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

It is going to be a little tricky with that kind of defense, since only Casey drove the car where some of the remains were found.  You really need to have two or more people who had the same access to everything related to the crime to pull off that kind of stunt.

A technique used by some defendants, with varying degrees of success, has been to have another person who knows the defendant confess to the crime during the trial.  Reasonable doubt kicks in, and the defendant is acquitted.  Then at the related person's trial, the original defendant confesses to the crime, resulting in the acquittal of the related person, but double-jeopardy prevents the original defendant from being tried again on the same charges.  Again, both the defendant and the colluding person must have the same access to crime stuff and the same details about the crime, so it only works some of the time, and the second person has to be darn certain that the original defendant will step forward and confess later.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: eternal0void on January 02, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
Red, that is probably the truth! They have already given up on justice for Caylee to try and save Crazy from the consequences of her actions. Using Mark Klass' adjective, they are "odious" people.. just despicable

Despicable, sure, but I can't see many other people doing anything differently.  Parents are supposed to try and save their children from death.  Its in society's brainwashing: make sure your kids live.  Parents who don't do this are seen as Bad People, or at least those parents who are caught not doing this.

Now the Ants are trying to keep their child alive, and the Concerned Mothers In Prison Association isn't going to help them much in that regard, so they have to try and keep Casey out of prison.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: eternal0void on January 02, 2009, 06:31:25 AM
Hi! I am new to the site but I am glad that I found it. I have been following this case from the beginning and I can't believe how "new" it still seems to be getting. It is definitely just unreal. There is all the talk on the news about the meter-reader being suspicious but I don't know. Why would Casey go through all the trouble to lie over and over and over again only for the meter-reader to be the guy who dunnit? It just doesn't make sense.

Maybe the meter-reader was Casey's accomplice, and she didn't pay him on time?

Didn't think of that, did-ya!   :wink:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 06:34:08 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:45:39 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 06:49:15 AM

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

This is what makes me think sometimes, that she was acting this out. Just a thought. She was so convincing in this call that her emotions were genuine, makes me think that she might have been putting on an act.

Just throwing this possibility out there.

Hi Brandi!  IMO, Cindy is too out of control to be a convincing actress.



Hey, Bearly!

At first I thought the same. Now I am not convinced either way. It's an interesting branch to hang on for a bit ...that Cindy was indeed acting in those calls.

She is much more out of control now than when we first saw her, though, IMHO.

;-)

Do you mean she knew there was a dead body in the trunk or she was just saying that for the shock value?



Yes, with this theory, Cindy would have known at this point that Caylee was dead and at least some of the particulars of the case. I am just saying that this angle is something to look at. It's possible, you know! This is one MESSED UP family! And this case has had more twists and turns in it than anyone could imagine. And there has to be more coming.

 ::MonkeyCool::

I don't think she'd know "some of the particulars." She'd know that the car smelled like a dead body, and that odds were very good that it was Caylee's dead body. And her instant reactions were to: 1) call for help  2) scream and yell and cry 3) wash the pants. 4) backtrack and say that she was overreacting, that of course she didn't REALLY think there was a dead body in the car.

I'm sure that Casey went to work on her after the 911 call, and that by the time Casey got hauled off, Cindy had time to fret and cry and to go into deep, DEEP denial, assisted of course by George, Casey, and Lee.  Until the day that hair came back positive for Caylee's DNA they could tell themselves maybe Casey killed someone in self-defense and ended up carrying him around in the trunk for awhile.

I'm sure Cindy wasn't present when Caylee died, it wasn't an accident, and that she really doesn't know and doesn't want to know how Casey killed her. I don't think she wanted to find Caylee's body because she "didn't want to lose another one," meaning Casey.  Deep down she knew Caylee was dead, but she hoped it wasn't true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Lucinda on January 02, 2009, 06:55:56 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 06:57:07 AM
Good Morning early monkeys and lurkers.... Hope all had a great new years day...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:57:16 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.

good find no1Z>>-->> it surely sounds like crazy did research after watching this episode...
nothing can hide from monkey eyes !!   ::MonkeyEek::  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: eternal0void on January 02, 2009, 07:01:42 AM
And while I'm on the subject of strange things, why do those assinine Anthonys say things like "Reach out" when they actually mean they made a telephone call to someone?  Why do they say "Wrap my mind around it" when they mean understand it?  "A lot on my plate" when they mean they have a lot to do? What is all this Anthony speak?  Are they from another planet? What is that planet that the progenitors of the Scientologists came from?  Could they be from there?  I know quite a few people and I know no one who says things like the Anthonys do.  Thank God.

Um, one could more rationally ask what planet you are from.  "Reach out and touch someone" is  an old Bell Telephone Company (the one that got broken up about three decades ago) marketing slogan (http://www.porticus.org/bell/bellsystem_ads-1.html), one which has caused us older people to think of it as another phrase meaning "call someone."  "Wrap my mind around it" has been heard so many times in the context used by the Anthonys that one blogger made it #5 in his list of "The Top 12 Phrases I’ve Hated in 2007." (http://skillzdesign.com/blog/2007/12/26/phrases-i-hate-in-2007/)

And both "wrap my mind around it" and "a lot on my plate" are metaphors which are apparently commonly used in workplaces across the nation. (http://www.chacocanyon.com/essays/metaphors.shtml)  The link is to a business consultant who advises his clients to listen to his workplace's metaphors and identify potential bad trends from the metaphor language used.

So one could ask you, "what planet are you from?" if you honestly don't know anyone who talks like this.  Earth calling Babybear, wake up and hear the coffee (or something like that).

Scientology is more likely to say things like "sign this form which says you waive your desire for an ambulance to be called for you if we happen to injure you during your Scientology Brainwashing Training."  That and "you've just reached the highest level of Scientology, but as you still have some money, we're inventing three more levels which should cost just as much money as what you have left."

The only good thing Scientology has ever done was switch from making their E-Meters using blue LEDs to making them using LCD screens.  You should have heard the engineers the world over, cursing Scientology for driving up the price of blue LEDs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 


The Anthonys are waiting for the defense to finish with remains. So sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Lucinda on January 02, 2009, 07:07:04 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 


The Anthonys are waiting for the defense to finish with remains. So sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


thanks, yes its disgusting poor caylee  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:10:57 AM
Licinda,Caylee's remains have been released to the funeral home.
http://www.news-press.com/article/20081224/CRIME/81224052/1075


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: eternal0void on January 02, 2009, 07:12:50 AM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

What are they going to do, demand DNA from the entire male population of Orlando? Whoever the father is, he doesn't care. If he did, he'd have come forward long ago.

Maybe he never knew!

He knew he had sex with Casey.  I just can't imagine being a man, hearing that a girl I once slept with had a child the right age to be mine, and not trying to find out. But most men really don't care, as long as nobody asks them for money.

Men have to be taught to want their kids.  Heck, child support and marriage are basically the methods for forcing most of them to have some responsibility.  There are exceptions to this rule, but for the most part men only start wondering about children they may have had in the past when those men get old and start thinking about the "immortality" of children carrying their genes.

There's a reason why "sowing your wild oats" is a phrase exclusively reserved for men: they spread their seed, then move on.  What happens after the fun in bed is not their problem, and often costly if they go looking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 07:14:12 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

We need to know more about James Hoover.  Hope the FBI does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
Good Morning
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:24:00 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:25:23 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

We need to know more about James Hoover.  Hope the FBI does.


Today,I agree.Seems to be no end to the list of people involved. Wouldn't you love to have the FBI file on this case.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Russ on January 02, 2009, 07:25:39 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

We need to know more about James Hoover.  Hope the FBI does.

Is there a video tape or not?  Hoover snuck up on him (D. Casey) with a video camera in that area where the body was eventually found?

Who was Hoover working for?

Wow, this case just keeps taking weird turns.  I can't tell who is telling the truth or not.  LP says he saw the darn tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 07:31:01 AM
Nancy Grace's boo boo last night, "Tonight, still the question, where is Caylee?"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/01/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Lucinda on January 02, 2009, 07:34:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.

Good morning Scarlett and today. Happy New year to you all too. Yes, thanks for the link trim, just finished reading it.  I didnt hear we had internet problems, but i havent been online for a couple of days, and find myself wayyyy behind.  You know, i always thought that JP CHATT looks so much like caylee, but i havent read the latest theory yet, im so behind.  I saw a pic of him against caylee, and there was a startling resemblnce imo.  Dont know if i am allowed to post the link to the pic, but it was on google anyways.

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s336/starshineinca/caylee.jpg


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:34:47 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

We need to know more about James Hoover.  Hope the FBI does.

Is there a video tape or not?  Hoover snuck up on him (D. Casey) with a video camera in that area where the body was eventually found?

Who was Hoover working for?

Wow, this case just keeps taking weird turns.  I can't tell who is telling the truth or not.  LP says he saw the darn tape.



 :gaah:   :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:36:04 AM
Nancy Grace's boo boo last night, "Tonight, still the question, where is Caylee?"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/01/ng.01.html


Thanks Today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:38:40 AM
Morning Scarlett.  ::MonkeyDance::
Gotta go fix Sea Searcher an omelet...BRB.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 02, 2009, 07:40:08 AM
Anthony's PI:no videos of site where remains were found.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

We need to know more about James Hoover.  Hope the FBI does.


Today,I agree.Seems to be no end to the list of people involved. Wouldn't you love to have the FBI file on this case.  ::MonkeyCool::
This sounds way too fishy. Why would he be interested if the area was used as a teen hangout? He worked for the A's and they probably knew it, Kio told the LE about it and what would it matter to prove it was a hangout? LP saw the video and it was also reported a reporter saw a short part of it and you could see the fence.


Well sit back...it goiing to be a bumpy ride this week.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:46:22 AM
Does anyone remember if the audio interview with Amy was released? I can't remember anything except the written transcript.

I get it from this link. It down loaded easier than others. I think we have ALL the docs. here on the Home page but for the life of me I could not find it. So try this.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/27/audio_video_recordings_released_by_law_enforcement.html

Sea Searcher is a lucky dog  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 07:48:14 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:55:31 AM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.
Wow!!  This is exactly what could end up happening!  I say it's all in the venue & jury selection at this point.  The only thing that gives me hope that she'll get a max sentence is how fast the GJ came back.  There's just too much new techno stuff in this case & a jury can be easily swayed by a good defense team.  Throw in blame & she could walk.  I hope not. 

That's what I meant about Cindy throwing herself under the bus for Casey. Maybe I saw the same Law & Order episode.

OOH- that certainly explains why they're scrambling for Immunity. Now I'm really angry.
Great post, Red.   
Hopefully LE will understand the hidden agenda they have.

I hope LE keeps up with us ,because I have heard so many interesting sagas from all.

I gotta tell you this one from Red {TY} is a brilliant loophole and hopefully the A's won't be given immunity just for this reason.

Who knows...Maybe Casey researched this as well if it was a TV show. She did live her life in a fantasy, set apart from the reality we all exist in. Naw...She is not that clever!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: PookyBear on January 02, 2009, 07:57:12 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Happy New Year. 

I just found this videotape discussing the video made by Hoover -- http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html -- The legal analyst indicates that if they went to the site (and this is the only site they went to) to "prove" that Casey did not hurt her child that this could backfire on the defense.  It is very suspicious that this is the only site they went to and then later the body was found. 

Kathy Belich has gone on record to say that she saw the video as well as LP.  Not sure why they are saying no video now other than to cover their tracks.  It is also suspicious that Joy Wray reported photos of the site as well.  They all seem to be interconnected.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Red on January 02, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Scared Monkeys Radio Daily Commentary - Friday, January 2, 2009 - Why Would Caylee Anthony’s Grandparents Seek Immunity?

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2009/01/02/scared-monkeys-radio-daily-commentary-friday-january-2-2009-why-would-caylee-anthonys-grandparents-seek-immunity/






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:05:38 AM
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Anything new since last night? Fill me in Monkeys!  ::MonkeyRoll::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Lucinda on January 02, 2009, 08:08:58 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Happy New Year. 

I just found this videotape discussing the video made by Hoover -- http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html -- The legal analyst indicates that if they went to the site (and this is the only site they went to) to "prove" that Casey did not hurt her child that this could backfire on the defense.  It is very suspicious that this is the only site they went to and then later the body was found. 

Kathy Belich has gone on record to say that she saw the video as well as LP.  Not sure why they are saying no video now other than to cover their tracks.  It is also suspicious that Joy Wray reported photos of the site as well.  They all seem to be interconnected.

hiya pooky, happy new year to you and your miss.  I might be caught up in here by tomorrow while you are all sleeping, i will read like crazy to catch up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 02, 2009, 08:09:07 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Happy New Year. 

I just found this videotape discussing the video made by Hoover -- http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html -- The legal analyst indicates that if they went to the site (and this is the only site they went to) to "prove" that Casey did not hurt her child that this could backfire on the defense.  It is very suspicious that this is the only site they went to and then later the body was found. 

Kathy Belich has gone on record to say that she saw the video as well as LP.  Not sure why they are saying no video now other than to cover their tracks.  It is also suspicious that Joy Wray reported photos of the site as well.  They all seem to be interconnected.
I think it was another "jump before you think" thing in this case. I said it brought up more questions and problems than it helped. I think the deal backfired on them and I think the A's and/or defense were part of this.
Shame on al involved. That baby's remains need to be laid to rest properly and then go on with this circus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:11:44 AM
thank you for breakfast, QM!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyWink::

-------

I have absolutely zero reason to believe they're seeking immunity for any other reason than they have actually done something and don't want to be charged. I don't think there is any other valid reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: PookyBear on January 02, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
Scared Monkeys Radio Daily Commentary - Friday, January 2, 2009 - Why Would Caylee Anthony’s Grandparents Seek Immunity?

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2009/01/02/scared-monkeys-radio-daily-commentary-friday-january-2-2009-why-would-caylee-anthonys-grandparents-seek-immunity/






Yes, Red -- They do need to tell the truth and the whole truth.  I am baffled by the fact that their attorney feels the need to advertise that he is seeking immunity.  Makes me wonder what, if any, conversations have occurred with the State.  I also found it interesting that the attorney mentioned turning over any evidence they had -- a big HUH here.  Going public was stupid -- the public does not like the Anthony's and are very suspicious of them.  The only thing I can come up with is that Conway has no leverage with State and is communicating his desires via the media. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:16:46 AM
Leonard from Nancy Grace Transcripts 12/30/08 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/30/ng.01.html)

Quote
PADILLA: I was introduced to Hoover back when we bailed out Casey in August. And because we have basically a sealed team, we don`t allow outsiders in. And therefore, even though he volunteered to help and all that, he wasn`t accepted.

When we went back this last time, we noticed that he was part of the security or the people that were hanging around the Anthonys. And after I had been there about three or four days, he mentioned to me that he had a film that he had filmed when Dominic called him on the 15th. And I asked him, I says, How can you have a film of the area? He says, Well, Dominic called me on the 15th, told me Caylee had been found. Hoover told me that he asked him, Is she alive? He said, No, she`s dead, but we`re going to go get her right now.

He then -- about two hours later, he showed up again. He had this film, a minute-and-a-half. But it`s not of the exact area where the body was found.


Quote
Leonard Padilla, we`ll go to you. You do know so much about this case, you are extremely valuable, and our caller confirmed that.

What do you know about a second computer at all that was taken from the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, SEARCHED FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, I don`t know about that. But what I do know is that Hoover`s cell phone, some still photos and the tape, according to what he told one of the media people in Orlando, have been confiscated by the FBI.

So they have that in their -- also, let me explain something. The meter reader on the 11th, 12th and 13th was about 600 yards off. The place where the kids used to congregate is not where they found the body.

They found the body at the end of a fence that comes right off the meter of the two -- hope spring and the street there where the body was found. They found the body at the end of a fence that comes right off the corner of the two, Hope Spring and the street there where the body was found. So they were off by about 600 yards.

When Dominic and Hoover were out there and Hoover was filming, was off by about 200, maybe 30 yards. Rob Dick is the one that can put more precise measurements to it.




Quote
CASAREZ: So how is that videotape going to help anybody, then, if it`s not the precise area?

PADILLA: Well, the body had to be found while Casey was in custody, which would have been the 11th, 12th and 13th. The tip had to come from Casey through a daisy chain to an unsuspecting meter reader that he was being used.

When the body wasn`t found because he was off by 600 yards, then the next thing is lay off because Padilla is getting Casey outs of jail. She went back into custody on the 14th of October. Subsequent to my fiasco up at the Little Econ. they sent Dominic and Hoover back out there.

Dominic`s specific -- Hoover says to me, Dominic says we found the body, we`ve got to go get her. Hoover asks him, is she alive, he says no, she is dead. But we have to go out there.




Quote
CASAREZ: And when was this? The date?

PADILLA: The 15th and 16th. Now, I saw the film myself. It says the 15th of November on it, but I know that things can be changed and is I know that, you know, these -- these things are for different purposes.

But I`ll tell you why Hoover filmed it, and that is because he was trying to sell it to media people from New York. I saw a lady there that I worked with on a murder/homicide/missing lady case back in Sacramento in `96.

Her purpose of being there is to buy film for NBC. There was another situation that came up where Hoover himself showed it to a couple of the local media people so I don`t know if they copied it or not.

One last thing. Dominic was not working for the attorney back in August when we were there. He was always represented to us as being an employee of the Anthony family. They always tried to get us to go see him, talk to him, meet with him. We never did. But he was always represented as being a private detective, hired by the Anthony family.

We always thought because of the name confusion that he was some kind of relative. He was not working for the attorney in those days.




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CASAREZ: And when did the FBI get the videotape and still pictures you`re talking about from Jim Hoover or who took them?

PADILLA: My understanding is that they actually got it from him around the 17th or 18th of December.

CASAREZ: Of December.

PADILLA: Of December, yes. Somewhere in there.

CASAREZ: So they have -- very interesting. Jennifer.

PADILLA: They have the cell phone.

CASAREZ: Yes.

PADILLA: They have his pictures and also some still photos.

CASAREZ: OK.

PADILLA: . that he had. It`s important to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:19:44 AM
Quote
My question is, have they seized another computer from the Anthonys` home since the grandmother sent the e-mail regarding the hairbrush?

CASAREZ: All right. Good question.

Leonard Padilla, we`ll go to you. You do know so much about this case, you are extremely valuable, and our caller confirmed that.

What do you know about a second computer at all that was taken from the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, SEARCHED FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, I don`t know about that. But what I do know is that Hoover`s cell phone, some still photos and the tape, according to what he told one of the media people in Orlando, have been confiscated by the FBI.


Has anyone read more about this anywhere?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: PookyBear on January 02, 2009, 08:20:19 AM

hiya pooky, happy new year to you and your miss.  I might be caught up in here by tomorrow while you are all sleeping, i will read like crazy to catch up. 

Lucinda -- Not all that much has happened for the last few days-- the defense is supposed to be done with the autopsy by the end of the week but no final arrangements for Caylee have been made for a funeral, as best as I can tell.  There is speculation that the Ants are dragging their feet because they will be questioned by the police and/or arrested after the funeral.  The one PI said he had a videotape and the other says Nope.  Lee moved out of his house and there has been speculation that he could have been evicted.  I think that is it in a nutshell. 

I hope you and yours have had a nice Holiday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:21:59 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Happy New Year. 

I just found this videotape discussing the video made by Hoover -- http://www.wftv.com/video/18391868/index.html -- The legal analyst indicates that if they went to the site (and this is the only site they went to) to "prove" that Casey did not hurt her child that this could backfire on the defense.  It is very suspicious that this is the only site they went to and then later the body was found. 

Kathy Belich has gone on record to say that she saw the video as well as LP.  Not sure why they are saying no video now other than to cover their tracks.  It is also suspicious that Joy Wray reported photos of the site as well.  They all seem to be interconnected.

I think it's odd that they would think video taping that particular area would "prove" she didn't hurt Caylee. That really makes no sense. Did he really think video taping that area showing "no body" proves KC innocent? That just makes absolutely no sense what so ever!! And why that particular spot, the spot that later did turn up her body??? What were they trying to pull off? Just because you can't "see" anything in a video tape, doesn't mean it wasn't there, it just means it wasn't visible to the camera. Also, why did he only video tape that one area to prove her innocence? Why not down the road a little, or across the street? How exactly does not seeing a body in that video prove that she's innocent? If that was all they needed to do, why did they wait until Nov. to "prove her innocence"?
Yikes, sorry, just ranting again about this video.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:22:04 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:25:42 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.

I wonder if the father can give up his "rights" to them....??

Otherwise, if the Anthony's are still given her remains then

1. they dont know who the bio dad is OR
2. the father is in fact one of the Anthony's

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Lucinda on January 02, 2009, 08:27:25 AM

hiya pooky, happy new year to you and your miss.  I might be caught up in here by tomorrow while you are all sleeping, i will read like crazy to catch up. 

Lucinda -- Not all that much has happened for the last few days-- the defense is supposed to be done with the autopsy by the end of the week but no final arrangements for Caylee have been made for a funeral, as best as I can tell.  There is speculation that the Ants are dragging their feet because they will be questioned by the police and/or arrested after the funeral.  The one PI said he had a videotape and the other says Nope.  Lee moved out of his house and there has been speculation that he could have been evicted.  I think that is it in a nutshell. 

I hope you and yours have had a nice Holiday.

Thanks for that, I will see you guys tomorrow, I better go to bed, have a good day everyone  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 08:27:44 AM
Quote
My question is, have they seized another computer from the Anthonys` home since the grandmother sent the e-mail regarding the hairbrush?

CASAREZ: All right. Good question.

Leonard Padilla, we`ll go to you. You do know so much about this case, you are extremely valuable, and our caller confirmed that.

What do you know about a second computer at all that was taken from the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, SEARCHED FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, I don`t know about that. But what I do know is that Hoover`s cell phone, some still photos and the tape, according to what he told one of the media people in Orlando, have been confiscated by the FBI.


Has anyone read more about this anywhere?


No.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 08:28:57 AM

hiya pooky, happy new year to you and your miss.  I might be caught up in here by tomorrow while you are all sleeping, i will read like crazy to catch up. 

Lucinda -- Not all that much has happened for the last few days-- the defense is supposed to be done with the autopsy by the end of the week but no final arrangements for Caylee have been made for a funeral, as best as I can tell.  There is speculation that the Ants are dragging their feet because they will be questioned by the police and/or arrested after the funeral.  The one PI said he had a videotape and the other says Nope.  Lee moved out of his house and there has been speculation that he could have been evicted.  I think that is it in a nutshell. 

I hope you and yours have had a nice Holiday.

Thanks for that, I will see you guys tomorrow, I better go to bed, have a good day everyone  ::MonkeyWink::


'Nite Lucinda.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: PookyBear on January 02, 2009, 08:31:49 AM

hiya pooky, happy new year to you and your miss.  I might be caught up in here by tomorrow while you are all sleeping, i will read like crazy to catch up. 

Lucinda -- Not all that much has happened for the last few days-- the defense is supposed to be done with the autopsy by the end of the week but no final arrangements for Caylee have been made for a funeral, as best as I can tell.  There is speculation that the Ants are dragging their feet because they will be questioned by the police and/or arrested after the funeral.  The one PI said he had a videotape and the other says Nope.  Lee moved out of his house and there has been speculation that he could have been evicted.  I think that is it in a nutshell. 

I hope you and yours have had a nice Holiday.

Thanks for that, I will see you guys tomorrow, I better go to bed, have a good day everyone  ::MonkeyWink::

Good night Lucinda -- sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 02, 2009, 08:31:54 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:32:35 AM
Night Lucinda, sleep tight!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: PookyBear on January 02, 2009, 08:34:07 AM

I think it's odd that they would think video taping that particular area would "prove" she didn't hurt Caylee. That really makes no sense. Did he really think video taping that area showing "no body" proves KC innocent? That just makes absolutely no sense what so ever!! And why that particular spot, the spot that later did turn up her body??? What were they trying to pull off? Just because you can't "see" anything in a video tape, doesn't mean it wasn't there, it just means it wasn't visible to the camera. Also, why did he only video tape that one area to prove her innocence? Why not down the road a little, or across the street? How exactly does not seeing a body in that video prove that she's innocent? If that was all they needed to do, why did they wait until Nov. to "prove her innocence"?
Yikes, sorry, just ranting again about this video.  ::MonkeyConfused::
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I am confused as well and find it amateurish -- but can only conclude that while KC was out of jail they did not want to film the area -- I am grasping here --


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 08:37:33 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.

JP Chatt looks exactly like Caylee, but he swears he never slept with Caylee Anthony and didn't even know her at the time. The best friends will know who all Casey was sleeping with when Caylee was conceived, but they won't know which one knocked Casey up. Reason being, Casey did not light up while ovulating.

Casey told Kiomarie Torres that the father was a "one night stand." She told Annie Downing that he was a guy who got killed fighting in Iraq. She told Amy he was Jesus Ortiz, killed in a car crash. They don't know who Caylee's father is. All they know is what she told them. Casey herself probably didn't know which guy actually caused the pregnancy. 

Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:42:24 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.

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You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Morning Scarlett.  ::MonkeyDance::
Gotta go fix Sea Searcher an omelet...BRB.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Morning Trimm ..  ::MonkeyShocked:: I think I need a tissue *sniff*  ::MonkeyCool::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:45:35 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
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 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 08:48:03 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I don't think a father who didn't want her until she was dead, is any better a parent for Caylee than Cindy. I doubt he'd do a better job of burying her than Cindy. And a lot of parents who are struggling with custody issues with their children, might back off for a month, and a lot of counselors might encourage them to do just that--to stop being the controlling mom and let the real mother raise the child, and let her call you when SHE is ready.

When I was growing up, I saw my grandparents on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and maybe two or three days during summer vacation. They never had to worry about whether my parents were taking care of me.

Raising my nephew, my Mom waited until he was 9 to take custody. That meant that there were times when she had him but didn't know where my sister was, and other times when she didn't know where either one of them were, and sometimes after a fight there'd be a two week lull when they didn't speak at all.

I am starting to get the impression that this wasn't the first time that Cindy and Casey had a fight like this one, and maybe Cindy felt that calling Casey every day to check on Caylee would just drag the fight out longer. The way she says Casey was missing for all that time, suggests that maybe Casey was screening her calls and just not taking any calls from Cindy. Cindy only found Casey because Amy led her to the place, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:50:02 AM
Morning Monkeys! Sorry I missed Lucinda, hope all is OK with her!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 08:51:04 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
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ss? I spaced him out--which one is he? I also left out LA. And Jeff Hopkins, who knew her in 2005 and has no kids, yet for some reason she thought people would buy that he'd recommended his nanny to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
Morning Monkeys! Sorry I missed Lucinda, hope all is OK with her!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Good mornin Boo! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 08:55:15 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
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Couldn't you have waited until I finished my breakfast....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:59:19 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 09:00:35 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 09:00:38 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
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Oh...I can see what kind of day this is gonna be...  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 09:02:09 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh...I can see what kind of day this is gonna be...  ::MonkeyRoll::
[/quote]

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:08:28 AM
Morning all!  I'm trying to catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 09:12:28 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?

Lee moved out of his house, possibly evicted but we don't know. Some "secret Santa" left 121 new Bloomingdale's toys at the Caylee memorial near the crime scene. and the Ants' lawyer says they want immunity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Mary on January 02, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
I wonder if they would give the A's a partial amunity, such as Caylee's death and
moving her remains. I don't think G or C had anything to do with her death. But I
do think G might have moved her body.I would not include either one of these
in a immunity deal. You know if they turn it down they are dirty as hell. Maybe
Njames??? left them over what they were involved in.
  
This is all so weird, I wonder if anyone in that house ever loved Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 09:14:20 AM
Hi Pookybear..I did not see you there. Are you at work today? Happy New Year "early" Monkey friend.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 09:14:28 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

Good point. I'll bet you're onto something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 09:16:35 AM
Morning all!  I'm trying to catch up.

Good morning newfie,,,,not sure if there is ever a catching up..
I was just reading a site on one tree hill..the episode casey watched was the 100th episode for that show... I havent seen the show, but, it seems someone, a brother took a child, that ended up dead....mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:19:34 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::
Ok I can go along with this line of thinking Boo.  It would explain a lot, also would explain why we were promised to see hundreds of bounty hunters, and then nothing.  Not like LP to tarnish his reputation on purpose with bold false promises like that.

All I have seen from NaJame since his removal from the Anthony's clutches I must say I have liked.  He is lashing out at them now, which makes it pretty clear that he believes/knows that they are up to their elbows!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:22:13 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?
Nothing really new this morning Ann.  We are tossing about the latest spill of info from Leonard Padilla right now.  Oh and SS is a potential father...and there is coffee flowing freely in the cage again.  (I am clinching my Evian bottle)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:24:12 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?

Lee moved out of his house, possibly evicted but we don't know. Some "secret Santa" left 121 new Bloomingdale's toys at the Caylee memorial near the crime scene. and the Ants' lawyer says they want immunity.
Ok the toys want immunity or the A's?  This just gets weirder!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:24:14 AM
Morning Scarlett.  ::MonkeyDance::
Gotta go fix Sea Searcher an omelet...BRB.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That man is SPOILED! 

Good Morning Monks!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:25:38 AM




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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 09:25:54 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

That's an excellent theory Boo...and Najame would be covered legally by attorney/client privilege but if he knew too much, like where Caylee's remains were, wouldn't he have to report it to LE anyway ?

I think you may have someting here..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 09:28:21 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh...I can see what kind of day this is gonna be...  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Now See...This is how rumors get started. You are too funny Leroy and now everyone is trying to find out who SS is?? 

Trimm is cooking his breakfast so why would he go with Casey...Oh.Right..I hear she likes to cook and chat with everyone!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hey there Boo...Are you feeling any better today. I missed yesterday but the power is holding strong. I'll be back this afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:30:21 AM
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My question is, have they seized another computer from the Anthonys` home since the grandmother sent the e-mail regarding the hairbrush?

CASAREZ: All right. Good question.

Leonard Padilla, we`ll go to you. You do know so much about this case, you are extremely valuable, and our caller confirmed that.

What do you know about a second computer at all that was taken from the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, SEARCHED FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, I don`t know about that. But what I do know is that Hoover`s cell phone, some still photos and the tape, according to what he told one of the media people in Orlando, have been confiscated by the FBI.


Has anyone read more about this anywhere?

No, but Today, I need to tell you I love your avi.  I keep watching it instead of reading here.   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:31:45 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
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 ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:33:09 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.

I wonder if the father can give up his "rights" to them....??

Otherwise, if the Anthony's are still given her remains then

1. they dont know who the bio dad is OR
2. the father is in fact one of the Anthony's

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Leroy!

I don't think we have met, welcome to the cage.

I think they don't know who the bio daddy is or at least are not sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 09:36:43 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.

JP Chatt looks exactly like Caylee, but he swears he never slept with Caylee Anthony and didn't even know her at the time. The best friends will know who all Casey was sleeping with when Caylee was conceived, but they won't know which one knocked Casey up. Reason being, Casey did not light up while ovulating.

Casey told Kiomarie Torres that the father was a "one night stand." She told Annie Downing that he was a guy who got killed fighting in Iraq. She told Amy he was Jesus Ortiz, killed in a car crash. They don't know who Caylee's father is. All they know is what she told them. Casey herself probably didn't know which guy actually caused the pregnancy. 

Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.

 :smt041 :smt038 :thumright: :salut: :sunny:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:37:51 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

Good point. I'll bet you're onto something.


Makes sense Boo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 09:38:17 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

That's an excellent theory Boo...and Najame would be covered legally by attorney/client privilege but if he knew too much, like where Caylee's remains were, wouldn't he have to report it to LE anyway ?

I think you may have someting here..

Good morning all you sleepy monkeys !!!  I think Nejame knew something also cause I can't think of a good reason he would pull out of the case unless C and G would not follow his advice or just on simple moral grounds.  BUT, he would not have any obligation to tell LE where the body was if he knew. I think just the opposite, that he would be in big trouble with the bar if he did reveal the inforamtion.  I think they are only obligated to report if they know someone is gonna commit a crime in the future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:38:22 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
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All right, that does it!!!    :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 09:39:52 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

And now Kathy Belich is saying she has seen the tape.  I'm wondering if Hoover lied to Dominic Casey about there being nothing on the tape to get him off his back?

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:39:55 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?
Nothing really new this morning Ann.  We are tossing about the latest spill of info from Leonard Padilla right now.  Oh and SS is a potential father...and there is coffee flowing freely in the cage again.  (I am clinching my Evian bottle)


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Morning Dolce.Hope your feeling well this morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?

Lee moved out of his house, possibly evicted but we don't know. Some "secret Santa" left 121 new Bloomingdale's toys at the Caylee memorial near the crime scene. and the Ants' lawyer says they want immunity.
Ok the toys want immunity or the A's?  This just gets weirder!!
Funny Dolce!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
Good to know those little monkeys haven't sucked all your brain cells out yet ... That happened to me when I was pregnant! ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:41:13 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 09:41:55 AM




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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:43:12 AM
Morning Monkeys! Sorry I missed Lucinda, hope all is OK with her!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Boo!!!   :smt031 :smt006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 09:45:06 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)

I agree 100%.  This is almost concrete proof that C and G knew her body was there.  Unless those guys were psychic, Orlando is a big place, but they happened to pick one area to film and it happened to be where Caylee was.  There is no coincidence in that. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 09:46:03 AM
Morning Scarlett.  ::MonkeyDance::
Gotta go fix Sea Searcher an omelet...BRB.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That man is SPOILED! 

Good Morning Monks!



 ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Bearly...  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:49:05 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

Could be, Boo.  Maybe that is why Tim said she wasn't going to be found? 

I don't think Tim would hide anything he knew outright and I think he was serious about pulling out because of the water level.  It makes sense for someone who has done this for such a long time.  IMO, he doesn't mess around with finding loved ones.  That is his true calling.  I think he would rather cut off his right arm then screw around with a search.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 09:49:58 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)

I agree 100%.  This is almost concrete proof that C and G knew her body was there.  Unless those guys were psychic, Orlando is a big place, but they happened to pick one area to film and it happened to be where Caylee was.  There is no coincidence in that. JMO

And now the A's attorney is going to file the paperwork for immunity!  I hope that is met with a big fat no!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:50:12 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh...I can see what kind of day this is gonna be...  ::MonkeyRoll::
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You just leave those bad boys to me, honey!

 :2whip:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:50:23 AM
Good Morning Bearly.  :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 09:50:50 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 

All right, that does it!!!    :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli:
[/quote]

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  Don't worry..it wasn't me, she doesn't appeal to me at all..she has no feline qualities...  ::MonkeyRoll::

Casey is more reptilian  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
Nancy Grace's boo boo last night, "Tonight, still the question, where is Caylee?"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/01/ng.01.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::
 
(and good morning Monkeys!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:51:56 AM
Hi Pookybear..I did not see you there. Are you at work today? Happy New Year "early" Monkey friend.

Morning, Scarrlett!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:53:57 AM
I still have about 10 pages to catch up on, but I thought of this this morning...

You know how we were all surprised when Nejame became buddies with Tim during the last search?
He even situated himself at the "command" center?
THEN everyone is upset with Tim for pulling out so early after all the promises of not stopping till they find Caylee?

I'm wondering if Nejame took Tim aside in confidence and told him something about the Anthonys knowing Caylee was dead, or maybe he even knew about the PI video tapes, but couldn't say anything being the Ant's attorney. If it's not right to tell Tim outright, maybe he hinted heavily that Tim would not find Caylee where they had set up to look and it was going to come out soon where the body was.

I'm also wondering if Nejame had mentioned that LP had known about the tape and that's why such the uncharacteristic attack by Tim on LP that we were all so shocked about.  Everybody kept saying that's not like Tim!!  If Nejame knew about this, that whole scenario is now fitting into the puzzle. Wonder what else Nejame knows??
 ::MonkeyEek::

I think NeJame could have very well told Tim something in an off the record, round about way.  Thanks for a fresh viewpoint. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:54:03 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

And now Kathy Belich is saying she has seen the tape.  I'm wondering if Hoover lied to Dominic Casey about there being nothing on the tape to get him off his back?

Lisa

Dolce~I have to agree with you about LP presenting his suppositions and theories as fact, they have become so convuluted I feel like Linda Blair-head spinning. I am totally confused by his actions: On the 12th he offered a reward HIMSELF to the meter reader, but ONLY if the sherriff would allow it, then about a week later he accuses him of being part of a daisy chain, and now this bizarre arcticle:

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- Just over two weeks ago, Roy Krunk, a water meter reader for Orange County, found what turned out the remains of missing toddler Caylee Marie Anthony. 

Law enforcement has said that Krunk called 3 times to report something he thought could be a bag with Caylee's remains in August.  They admit he even called Crimeline.  Crimeline issues monetary rewards for information to those who help solve a crime.

Crimeline's board of directors will not meet until late next month to decide who is eligible for rewards, but there are reports that Krunk may not get any money from the tip line.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Reward money may go to meter reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cindy and George Anthony's former attorney Mark Nejame told Krunk's attorney he'd be willing to reward Krunk in an effort to bring some closure to this tragic case. 

NeJame said Monday that he's still evaluating his offer.  NeJame believes Krunk went beyond the call of duty by calling authorities over and over again to follow up on a hunch.  He said five thousand dollars would be a good thank you from him on behalf of the community. 

Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla.
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: I honestly feel he has overstepped his boundaries because this is a matter for LE and FBI and NOT for the self professed "World Famous Bounty Hunter", pls LP FTLOG go home and quit spinning your theories that only further confuse every aspect of this case ::MonkeyNoNo::  Plus if you listen to Holly Bristow reporting on this, she stated that Mr. Kronk, nor his attorney have even heard from LP???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:54:16 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)
Good morning Miss Bearly!  It is me, the twins will not have a free run at being a monkey until atleast age 2.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
Morning all!  I'm trying to catch up.

Good morning newfie,,,,not sure if there is ever a catching up..
I was just reading a site on one tree hill..the episode casey watched was the 100th episode for that show... I havent seen the show, but, it seems someone, a brother took a child, that ended up dead....mio

Mio, I have enjoyed your posts about humanity.  I agree with what you have said about us all needing to work together and stop harming each other.  I love the native way of respect for others and the earth.  We could all take many pages from that book.  Thank you for your insight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 02, 2009, 09:56:17 AM
I may have missed this but when I listened to the 911 call from Cindy where people say she says she is going to beat Casey's butt, I noticed that CA seemed to be yelling at GA "George, Caylee is missing" - I did not know that George was there at the time of the third call. Did I miss something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:56:52 AM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.








Interesting.Thanks for posting that.
And hey,Do you by any chance find LP sexy?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:57:45 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?
Nothing really new this morning Ann.  We are tossing about the latest spill of info from Leonard Padilla right now.  Oh and SS is a potential father...and there is coffee flowing freely in the cage again.  (I am clinching my Evian bottle)


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Morning Dolce.Hope your feeling well this morning.
Good morning!  Feeling okely dokely today!  :)  Hope you are enjoying this new year!  Justice for Caylee in 2009 is my hope!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 09:57:52 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.

You know, I've always thought that if anyone knows the identity of Caylee's father, it's got to be Annie Downing...  Is that who you mean?  She did eventually talk to LE, but they (perhaps meaningfully) have not released her interviews yet... I think there are bombshells to come when we finally hear from Annie.

Oh wait.  Or do you mean Katie R.  who supposedly worked at Sawgrass Apartments and who postponed her LE interview, then told them she'd rather not talk to them?  I don't think she was a close friend of Casey's, but she did point LE to Vicky Aleman, who also lived at Sawgrass, knew some of Casey's friends, and may be someone whose personal details Casey could have woven into her crazy Zanny story ... oh, it's so confusing!
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:58:30 AM
Good morning, Monkeys?  Any new Caylee news this morning?

Lee moved out of his house, possibly evicted but we don't know. Some "secret Santa" left 121 new Bloomingdale's toys at the Caylee memorial near the crime scene. and the Ants' lawyer says they want immunity.
Ok the toys want immunity or the A's?  This just gets weirder!!
Funny Dolce!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
Good to know those little monkeys haven't sucked all your brain cells out yet ... That happened to me when I was pregnant! ...
LOL We are all currently sharing 1 last cell.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 09:59:26 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)

I agree 100%.  This is almost concrete proof that C and G knew her body was there.  Unless those guys were psychic, Orlando is a big place, but they happened to pick one area to film and it happened to be where Caylee was.  There is no coincidence in that. JMO

And now the A's attorney is going to file the paperwork for immunity!  I hope that is met with a big fat no!

Lisa

My bet is that they will not be given immunity.  Prosecutors DO NOT like to give immunity cause it taints the case.  IMO they have a pretty rock solid case and they don't seem to be chasing the Ants down to get them to talk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 09:59:34 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR MONKEY PEEPS!!!

I thought it was decided yesterday that the tape was made Dec. 14-15, not Nov. 14-15????????????

New show coming on NBC, Housewife Detective........we should have a show, Monkey Detectives


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:59:47 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

I agree.  If I saw my Granddaughter every day of her life, she would not be missing for 31 days before I found a way to make sure she was safe.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
Trimm is cooking his breakfast so why would he go with Casey...Oh.Right..I hear she likes to cook and chat with everyone!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hey there Boo...Are you feeling any better today. I missed yesterday but the power is holding strong. I'll be back this afternoon.

Can't say I feel that much better, just have to let this run it's course. But thanks for asking. I missed you yesterday too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:03:48 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)

I agree 100%.  This is almost concrete proof that C and G knew her body was there.  Unless those guys were psychic, Orlando is a big place, but they happened to pick one area to film and it happened to be where Caylee was.  There is no coincidence in that. JMO

 :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:05:32 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.

I wonder if the father can give up his "rights" to them....??

Otherwise, if the Anthony's are still given her remains then

1. they dont know who the bio dad is OR
2. the father is in fact one of the Anthony's

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Leroy!

I don't think we have met, welcome to the cage.

I think they don't know who the bio daddy is or at least are not sure.

Back off Bearlyhere! You got yourself a man (or 2), Leroy is mine!! He pays for stuff for me and even changed his *ahem* clothes for me when I asked. Now Leroy, can you cook? Cause I haven't had breakfast yet and I'm getting a little peckish... I can't think straight on Hot Tea w/ honey and a cigarette!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:05:32 AM
Good Morning Bearly.  :smt039

Good Morning, sweetie!

 :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 10:05:38 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:06:03 AM
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla.
 
They are sidestepping the legal boundaries. LE can't be involved so they use the parties they trust to avoid inadmissable evidence.

If the Ants hired a PI and George claimed they are watching and the body has been moved 9 times. And meterreader and video guys had 6 different spots then who has what and lets all put it on the table and solve the mystery. Are these guys in it for money? Are they in it to be good citizens? Are they honest? Did they want to find a live Caylee and kidnappers? Or were they working on a defense? Were they putting doubt into the case? Were they following a script? Who wrote the script? Were they reaching for straws and hoping for some luck?

Maybe Lee found Caylee when Casey was in jail and moved the body 9 times setting up an alibi and trail that would make a kidnapping case plausable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:10:08 AM


Sean Daley looks nothing like Caylee, but he could be the father. So could Ricardo Morales, Jesus Ortiz, Iasson Donov, Dante Salate, Jeremy Mayfield, Mark Hawkins, Jesus Ortiz, B. Snow, and probably half a dozen other guys. But as Jesse Grund proved, just because a guy might be the father, that doesn't mean he is.


You left out SS  ::MonkeyCool:: 

All right, that does it!!!    :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli: :2ukli:

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  Don't worry..it wasn't me, she doesn't appeal to me at all..she has no feline qualities...  ::MonkeyRoll::

Casey is more reptilian  ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Oh, so the cat rumors are true!

 :smt075

Here kitty kitty!!!

 :fish: :fish: :nemo: :nemo:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:10:11 AM
And now Kathy Belich is saying she has seen the tape.  I'm wondering if Hoover lied to Dominic Casey about there being nothing on the tape to get him off his back?

Lisa

Oh I'm sure he did!! Didn't Casey say he left a ton of messages for him and he wouldn't return his calls?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:11:18 AM
Nancy Grace's boo boo last night, "Tonight, still the question, where is Caylee?"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/01/ng.01.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::
 
(and good morning Monkeys!)


 :smt006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:11:53 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: OriginalKat on January 02, 2009, 10:12:12 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa
Exactly. Cindy had alot more control over the situation at the time and on her 1st 911 call after all is done she calls in the car stolen while it is at her house fresh from the tow yard. Cindy's family knew Casey was not to be trusted per their emails in docs as did Lee and her friends. I think this is where the A's guilt comes in as failing Caylee and why they support Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla.
 
They are sidestepping the legal boundaries. LE can't be involved so they use the parties they trust to avoid inadmissable evidence.

If the Ants hired a PI and George claimed they are watching and the body has been moved 9 times. And meterreader and video guys had 6 different spots then who has what and lets all put it on the table and solve the mystery. Are these guys in it for money? Are they in it to be good citizens? Are they honest? Did they want to find a live Caylee and kidnappers? Or were they working on a defense? Were they putting doubt into the case? Were they following a script? Who wrote the script? Were they reaching for straws and hoping for some luck?

Maybe Lee found Caylee when Casey was in jail and moved the body 9 times setting up an alibi and trail that would make a kidnapping case plausable.


JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: numbersgirl on January 02, 2009, 10:14:51 AM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 10:15:53 AM
Good Morning. The video was made on Nov 15, the day after Henry Lee examined Casey's car. Padilla was told and shown the video on Dec 15 or 16, and Padilla mentioned yesterday on Headline News that Nick Savage FBI can back up this story. Padilla throws a lot of things out there, but I doubt if he is going to mention this FBI guy, just for the heck of it. Padilla is a character, but not dumb.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 02, 2009, 10:16:21 AM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Although I do think Cindy is histrionic, it's actually not a symptom of any personality disorder to become hysterical if you suspect your grandchild has been murdered. That 911 call, she actually shows the appropriate emotions for the situation, for once. Now, if she'd said it smelled like a dead body in the car, and then it turned out really to just be pizza boxes, THAT would be HPD.

It's also not that odd to want to "beat the shit out of" someone if they killed your relative, or even just if they stole your car. Or if they're Casey Anthony.

Actually IMO in the third 911 call Cindy behaves exactly as one would expect under the circumstances and it is the only time during this entire episode that I can recall where she exhibited normal emotions.  I have never seen her shed a tear although she was sobbing at the beginning of that 911 call.  But after that, it was as if an iron curtain descended and since then it has been pizza boxes and get off your ass and find my granddaughter.  One of the strangest was when she suggested that someone had put a body, not Caylee's, in the trunk of the car at the tow yard.     

I think she found out the truth after the third 911 call.  And it's been "lie, obstruct, and obfuscate" ever since!

Lisa

Exactly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:17:23 AM
One more lingering question.
How did Casey get the car and name of ZG? Did she have the capability of running a license plate, a connection to a cop or law enforcement or George's computer? If they were conducting their own search (maybe George bought into the kidnapping earlier than Cindy) then could George call old cop buddies and get IDs? Usually there is accountability on those searches and there should be records of any between June 9 and when Casey was arrested.

She didn't have access to the apartment records IIRC. There had to be another way she picked this particular woman. I think she was sitting in the apartment parking lot, wishing for a place to live, wondering if her friends at Sawgrass would let her in, and ZG drove by. She wrote down the plate. Not sure if she thought ZG was a resident and it was a coincidence that the apartment was vacant. But a license plate would not give her the name of this woman. She would have to look that up. She matched the car to the name, but the physical description of the woman was way off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.

I wonder if the father can give up his "rights" to them....??

Otherwise, if the Anthony's are still given her remains then

1. they dont know who the bio dad is OR
2. the father is in fact one of the Anthony's

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Leroy!

I don't think we have met, welcome to the cage.

I think they don't know who the bio daddy is or at least are not sure.

Back off Bearlyhere! You got yourself a man (or 2), Leroy is mine!! He pays for stuff for me and even changed his *ahem* clothes for me when I asked. Now Leroy, can you cook? Cause I haven't had breakfast yet and I'm getting a little peckish... I can't think straight on Hot Tea w/ honey and a cigarette!  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 10:17:28 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa
Exactly. Cindy had alot more control over the situation at the time and on her 1st 911 call after all is done she calls in the car stolen while it is at her house fresh from the tow yard. Cindy's family knew Casey was not to be trusted per their emails in docs as did Lee and her friends. I think this is where the A's guilt comes in as failing Caylee and why they support Casey.

Agree agree agree.  It has never made sense Cindy would make a report about a stolen car that wasn't stolen, but rather sitting in the driveway, BUT not mention the thing that totally sends her off the deep end.....smell of a dead body in the car.  AND NO DOUBT George knew there had been a dead body in the car because he admitted it to police, BUT he just calmly goes off to work. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 02, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.

I am betting on valium, Xanex, and dilaudid with an accasional Benzedrine added in.  All easily accessible for RN's.

I think Cindy has turned into Xani, imo.

No, her pupils are certainly dilated but IMO even if she weren't on drugs, she would refuse a polygraph because she is a liar and she knows it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 10:21:26 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR MONKEY PEEPS!!!

I thought it was decided yesterday that the tape was made Dec. 14-15, not Nov. 14-15????????????

New show coming on NBC, Housewife Detective........we should have a show, Monkey Detectives

LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Thanks, nice to read something funny with my morning coffee  ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 10:22:54 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 10:23:22 AM

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Hi Leroy!

I don't think we have met, welcome to the cage.

I think they don't know who the bio daddy is or at least are not sure.
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Hi Bearly - nice to officially meet you.  I have been a stalker here for a few years but just recently registered and decided to join in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:24:59 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Desdemona on January 02, 2009, 10:26:06 AM
Oh, the monkeys are all so smart and funny this morning!

Boo's theory about NeJame, QM's wonderful morning greeting, all the banter about SS's wimmin and whether he is another contender for daddy, Dolce's Evian and her twinsies that aren't monkeys yet but are sharing her brain cells, Leroy's humor and good nature, Lucinda popping in from down under, Bearly's sweet and friendly greetings/comments, Fuzzball's rational and on-the-spot thinking, JJ's insistence on a certain toothpick-chewer being "sexy," txlisa's good common sense, Abbey's clarity, and everyone else... you're all terrific.

Wish I could stick around with all of you clever and funny monkeys, but I only popped in for a quick hello.  Love me some monkeys, though!  Bye folks, see you later!  Hope you have it all solved by the time I get back!

 :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:
Desi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:26:57 AM
I think what this all boils down to is very plain and simple, the question for the FBI to ask "Why were you filming a location you thought to be a dump site when your clients the Anthony's were so very sure that Caylee was alive and else where?"
I know that there are bits of truth in everything that these people have to say, all their mis-truths have some bits of truth to them.  Maybe George's bit of truth to help his conscience was "We have eyes on her and she has been moved 9 times".  It is not like Dominic Casey was out shooting footage of every inch of woods around the Anthony's homestead, why this piece?  Why then?
I like Leonard Padilla, I do, but some of his information has been more his take on things, but lately he has been speaking as if he has "proof".  This will be interesting to see how it all plays out here in the end.
All-in-all I sure hope that he is telling the truth and that FBI has all of this evidence.  IMO though that would mean that the Anthony's are the ones needing immunity more than anyone and should be concerned, so why is it that the screws seem to only be tightening around Lee?

I agree Dolce.  Good Morning, Sweetie!  (Is this you posting or one of the twins?)

 :smt055 (3 hearts one for each of you)
Good morning Miss Bearly!  It is me, the twins will not have a free run at being a monkey until atleast age 2.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good idea!  Just a thought, keep them out of the cage on New Year's Eve!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".

Is there a hearing today or Monday about getting the judge to appoint a "special master" for Baez?  And did you know that Joy figures in to all of this? ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 10:30:25 AM
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla.
 
They are sidestepping the legal boundaries. LE can't be involved so they use the parties they trust to avoid inadmissable evidence.

If the Ants hired a PI and George claimed they are watching and the body has been moved 9 times. And meterreader and video guys had 6 different spots then who has what and lets all put it on the table and solve the mystery. Are these guys in it for money? Are they in it to be good citizens? Are they honest? Did they want to find a live Caylee and kidnappers? Or were they working on a defense? Were they putting doubt into the case? Were they following a script? Who wrote the script? Were they reaching for straws and hoping for some luck?

Maybe Lee found Caylee when Casey was in jail and moved the body 9 times setting up an alibi and trail that would make a kidnapping case plausable.


JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::

Good Morning Monks old and new!!  IM - :smt038 :smt038 to your post. IMO it's time for LP to go back home!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
I have to agree with IslandMonkey on the LP issue (sorry JJ).  I just cant seem to figure out his motives except wanting his face splattered on the TV all the time.

(P.S. Boo, do you like Spam?)  ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 10:31:28 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.
I'm with you on this JJ, LP may say a lot of things that people think might be inappropriate, but there is reason behind the madness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:32:39 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.

I wonder if the father can give up his "rights" to them....??

Otherwise, if the Anthony's are still given her remains then

1. they dont know who the bio dad is OR
2. the father is in fact one of the Anthony's

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Leroy!

I don't think we have met, welcome to the cage.

I think they don't know who the bio daddy is or at least are not sure.

Back off Bearlyhere! You got yourself a man (or 2), Leroy is mine!! He pays for stuff for me and even changed his *ahem* clothes for me when I asked. Now Leroy, can you cook? Cause I haven't had breakfast yet and I'm getting a little peckish... I can't think straight on Hot Tea w/ honey and a cigarette!  ::MonkeyCool::

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 10:32:55 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".

Is there a hearing today or Monday about getting the judge to appoint a "special master" for Baez?  And did you know that Joy figures in to all of this? ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa
There is going to be a hearing I thought, when I don't know, and yes Joy is up to her eyeballs in this craziness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: iowagirl on January 02, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
RE: Immunity for the Ants

Who in their right mind REALLY thinks the Ants would give any kind of information that would condemn Casey at all?? ESPECIALLY considering how committed they were to that RIDICULOUS nanny story??

I have to agree with a lot of you (and that sexy LP  ::MonkeyCool:: ) that the Ants knew where the body was.. and it's only a matter of time before their "private investigators" roll on them.  The timing makes sense that the PIs (or Mark NeJame) knew something.

RE: Mark NeJame, most lawyers love the limelight.. the Ants must have REALLY ticked him off to make him do a 180.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 10:33:41 AM
Morning all!  I'm trying to catch up.

Good morning newfie,,,,not sure if there is ever a catching up..
I was just reading a site on one tree hill..the episode casey watched was the 100th episode for that show... I havent seen the show, but, it seems someone, a brother took a child, that ended up dead....mio

Mio, I have enjoyed your posts about humanity.  I agree with what you have said about us all needing to work together and stop harming each other.  I love the native way of respect for others and the earth.  We could all take many pages from that book.  Thank you for your insight.
good morning bearly, >>--->>  thank you ..as,  it does my heart good, to know some of my thoughts are percieved with such acceptance, as I often find my views quite different than the norm, if there is a norm....mio



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 10:34:05 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Babybear on January 02, 2009, 10:35:46 AM
And while I'm on the subject of strange things, why do those assinine Anthonys say things like "Reach out" when they actually mean they made a telephone call to someone?  Why do they say "Wrap my mind around it" when they mean understand it?  "A lot on my plate" when they mean they have a lot to do? What is all this Anthony speak?  Are they from another planet? What is that planet that the progenitors of the Scientologists came from?  Could they be from there?  I know quite a few people and I know no one who says things like the Anthonys do.  Thank God.

Um, one could more rationally ask what planet you are from.  "Reach out and touch someone" is  an old Bell Telephone Company (the one that got broken up about three decades ago) marketing slogan (http://www.porticus.org/bell/bellsystem_ads-1.html), one which has caused us older people to think of it as another phrase meaning "call someone."  "Wrap my mind around it" has been heard so many times in the context used by the Anthonys that one blogger made it #5 in his list of "The Top 12 Phrases I’ve Hated in 2007." (http://skillzdesign.com/blog/2007/12/26/phrases-i-hate-in-2007/)

And both "wrap my mind around it" and "a lot on my plate" are metaphors which are apparently commonly used in workplaces across the nation. (http://www.chacocanyon.com/essays/metaphors.shtml)  The link is to a business consultant who advises his clients to listen to his workplace's metaphors and identify potential bad trends from the metaphor language used.

So one could ask you, "what planet are you from?" if you honestly don't know anyone who talks like this.  Earth calling Babybear, wake up and hear the coffee (or something like that).

Scientology is more likely to say things like "sign this form which says you waive your desire for an ambulance to be called for you if we happen to injure you during your Scientology Brainwashing Training."  That and "you've just reached the highest level of Scientology, but as you still have some money, we're inventing three more levels which should cost just as much money as what you have left."

The only good thing Scientology has ever done was switch from making their E-Meters using blue LEDs to making them using LCD screens.  You should have heard the engineers the world over, cursing Scientology for driving up the price of blue LEDs.

My reference to Scientology and the way the Anthonys speak was just a joke and not to be taken seriously as you apparently did.  I know all about emeters and "Clear" and Thetans and Volcano eruptions so no lesson needed, thanks anyway.

As to my planet?  Hopefully I live on one where the propagation of the English language is important and silly expressions such as "Wrap my mind around" something will soon be extinguished.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:40:05 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something  of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

 ::MonkeyEek:: I completely disagree, OF COURSE LE can investigate Kronk if they feel he's been untruthful, they could ask him to take a polygraph, etc.

So, LP is doing his job?????? I always assumed his job was a bounty hunter and not an investigator in this case, that is for the OCSO and the FBI. I think the defense would have a hayday if LP were put on the stand about his "investigations", he's just proven to be non-credible to me and I know many others agree, and not  want to out it out there due to nanner throwing. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:41:30 AM
There is another PI involved in the case, at least peripherally.  The contact for the October TES search was James Copenhaver.

Texas EquuSearch is expecting 3,000 or more searchers to participate in the search for Caylee.  Each team will need a trained team leader.  Please consider volunteering in this capacity.  We will be holding a formal training session for all team leaders on Friday, November 7, 2008.  You will be provided details once you are registered.
If interested, please contact:
James Copenhaver
Copenhaver & Associates
800 N. Ferncreek Avenue
Orlando, FL  32833
407-897-1184
SearchInOrlando@aol.com
Pasted from <https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS.html>

Copenhaver & Associates (http://www.myfloridapi.com/)


This reminded me of the picture of the interview regarding Larry Garrison and the $6,000.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/263ko7r.jpg)

I always thought the guy on the left was Copenhaver.  But could it be James Hoover?  Does anyone have a picture of Hoover? 

The crazy lady, Joy Wray, claims her husband is a PI and works for Baez. The assumption was that he worked for Dominic Casey, but could it be that he works for Copenhaver & Associates?  I can't find anything out about them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: faith1109 on January 02, 2009, 10:42:19 AM
And while I'm on the subject of strange things, why do those assinine Anthonys say things like "Reach out" when they actually mean they made a telephone call to someone?  Why do they say "Wrap my mind around it" when they mean understand it?  "A lot on my plate" when they mean they have a lot to do? What is all this Anthony speak?  Are they from another planet? What is that planet that the progenitors of the Scientologists came from?  Could they be from there?  I know quite a few people and I know no one who says things like the Anthonys do.  Thank God.

Um, one could more rationally ask what planet you are from.  "Reach out and touch someone" is  an old Bell Telephone Company (the one that got broken up about three decades ago) marketing slogan (http://www.porticus.org/bell/bellsystem_ads-1.html), one which has caused us older people to think of it as another phrase meaning "call someone."  "Wrap my mind around it" has been heard so many times in the context used by the Anthonys that one blogger made it #5 in his list of "The Top 12 Phrases I’ve Hated in 2007." (http://skillzdesign.com/blog/2007/12/26/phrases-i-hate-in-2007/)

And both "wrap my mind around it" and "a lot on my plate" are metaphors which are apparently commonly used in workplaces across the nation. (http://www.chacocanyon.com/essays/metaphors.shtml)  The link is to a business consultant who advises his clients to listen to his workplace's metaphors and identify potential bad trends from the metaphor language used.

So one could ask you, "what planet are you from?" if you honestly don't know anyone who talks like this.  Earth calling Babybear, wake up and hear the coffee (or something like that).

Scientology is more likely to say things like "sign this form which says you waive your desire for an ambulance to be called for you if we happen to injure you during your Scientology Brainwashing Training."  That and "you've just reached the highest level of Scientology, but as you still have some money, we're inventing three more levels which should cost just as much money as what you have left."

The only good thing Scientology has ever done was switch from making their E-Meters using blue LEDs to making them using LCD screens.  You should have heard the engineers the world over, cursing Scientology for driving up the price of blue LEDs.

My reference to Scientology and the way the Anthonys speak was just a joke and not to be taken seriously as you apparently did.  I know all about emeters and "Clear" and Thetans and Volcano eruptions so no lesson needed, thanks anyway.

As to my planet?  Hopefully I live on one where the propagation of the English language is important and silly expressions such as "Wrap my mind around" something will soon be extinguished.

Babybear,
I know exactly how you mean this!  The Ants use these and other odd vocabulary in an attempt to sound intelligent imo.  I know people who do this and it drives me crazy.  I am all for someone with a well versed and intelligent vocabulary, but there are certain individuals who love to hear themselves speak, and may be a bit insecure about their intelligence so they are sure to throw lots of these phrases in to let the person/people they are speaking (down) to just how fabulously brilliant they are!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 02, 2009, 10:43:00 AM
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said he heard about Nejame's offer and decided he'd add an extra five or ten thousand dollars to that reward.  But there's a catch.  Padilla wants to sit down with Krunk and Krunk's attorney for a chat.  Padilla said he believes the Orange County worker knows more than what he's saying publicly.  And, Padilla wants to know what that is.

David Evans is Roy Krunk's attorney.  Evans said his client would be receptive to a no strings attached reward.  He added that he has not yet had a direct conversation with Leonard Padilla.
 
They are sidestepping the legal boundaries. LE can't be involved so they use the parties they trust to avoid inadmissable evidence.

If the Ants hired a PI and George claimed they are watching and the body has been moved 9 times. And meterreader and video guys had 6 different spots then who has what and lets all put it on the table and solve the mystery. Are these guys in it for money? Are they in it to be good citizens? Are they honest? Did they want to find a live Caylee and kidnappers? Or were they working on a defense? Were they putting doubt into the case? Were they following a script? Who wrote the script? Were they reaching for straws and hoping for some luck?

Maybe Lee found Caylee when Casey was in jail and moved the body 9 times setting up an alibi and trail that would make a kidnapping case plausable.


JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::

I agree with you on this point-He needs to go back to California and get out of the way.  I believe from the beginning that Jose has ALL these people (including the Anthony's) working for him to create reasonable doubt and I don't know what the implications could be on the Anthony's for trying to mess up the case against Casey.  I know she is their daughter but legally that does not give them the right to muddy the waters here.  They should NOT be given immunity and be allowed to skate on this issue.  Jose is calling the shots in all this drama and I believe what he is doing is illegal and unprofessional. (JMO)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BTgirl on January 02, 2009, 10:43:49 AM
O/T

My New Year's resolution is to do my darndest to try to begin loving everyone unconditionally. (Trust me, I've got a ways to go to get there.) As a start, though, I want to send love this morning to all monkeys. I hope you have an absolutely splendid day.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
And now Kathy Belich is saying she has seen the tape.  I'm wondering if Hoover lied to Dominic Casey about there being nothing on the tape to get him off his back?

Lisa

Oh I'm sure he did!! Didn't Casey say he left a ton of messages for him and he wouldn't return his calls?  ::MonkeyConfused::


 ::MonkeyCool:: Yes I believe he did.


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:47:48 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:51:45 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".

Is there a hearing today or Monday about getting the judge to appoint a "special master" for Baez?  And did you know that Joy figures in to all of this? ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa

IMO Joy has been in this up to her eyeballs, she really needs to be checked out thoroughly by LE.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 10:52:36 AM
O/T

My New Year's resolution is to do my darndest to try to begin loving everyone unconditionally. (Trust me, I've got a ways to go to get there.) As a start, though, I want to send love this morning to all monkeys. I hope you have an absolutely splendid day.

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morning bt ..... what a nice resolution to share with us....AHO = "may it ever be so"
 I hope your day is filled with smiles as well....>>---->> mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 10:52:45 AM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:52:58 AM
I have to agree with IslandMonkey on the LP issue (sorry JJ).  I just cant seem to figure out his motives except wanting his face splattered on the TV all the time.

(P.S. Boo, do you like Spam?)  ::MonkeyWink::

Leroy sweetie, anything you make is fine, I'm sick and can't taste anything anyway. I appreciate the effort!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:54:39 AM

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 ::MonkeyCool::

No more tea for you, are we cross gendering now? If so, you are the prettiest little man in the cage!!
All is forgiven, it's the drugs man, they are kicking my butt!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
This whole plea for immunity is not one that an innocent person would make.  Baez must be going crazy.  His illusion curtain has fallen down and there he stands with his pants down caught in the act of screwing the public.
I agree that this case is going to be studied for years and years to come "How to NOT be a Total DUMBASS".

Is there a hearing today or Monday about getting the judge to appoint a "special master" for Baez?  And did you know that Joy figures in to all of this? ::MonkeyEek::

Lisa

IMO Joy has been in this up to her eyeballs, she really needs to be checked out thoroughly by LE.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Boo, I agree....there are so many nut cases that have taken up with the A's...makes me think about what my Granny and Granny's all over the world have said ::MonkeyWink:: birds of a feather flock together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:58:01 AM
RE: Immunity for the Ants

Who in their right mind REALLY thinks the Ants would give any kind of information that would condemn Casey at all?? ESPECIALLY considering how committed they were to that RIDICULOUS nanny story??

I have to agree with a lot of you (and that sexy LP  ::MonkeyCool:: ) that the Ants knew where the body was.. and it's only a matter of time before their "private investigators" roll on them.  The timing makes sense that the PIs (or Mark NeJame) knew something.

RE: Mark NeJame, most lawyers love the limelight.. the Ants must have REALLY ticked him off to make him do a 180.  ::MonkeyEek::

IIRC Nejame had said something about NOT having anything to do with the defense of KC as the reason of his split. Like the Ants had approached him to do something to show that KC was innocent. Remember they were going to have a BOMBSHELL media report to show KC was innocent and Nejame quit and they never had the conference? That was a bit strange, how come you going to show us how KC is innocent and don't cause your lawyer quits? Nejame KNOWS the Ants were dirty and didn't want any part of it!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....and HAPPY NEW YEAR!  ::cartwheel::

Was wondering.... remember when LP had to take that lie detector test for LE... anyone ever hear anything more about it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:00:34 AM
How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.

good find no1Z>>-->> it surely sounds like crazy did research after watching this episode...
nothing can hide from monkey eyes !!   ::MonkeyEek::  mio

I always knew the day she looked up chloroform and what not, was the day of her bday, or the day before. She did it big on her BDAY last year, there is still pictures of her in a paper tiara on last years bday. So im guessing she must have needed to put caylee to bed before being able to go out like mommy said. Its definitely premeditated murder with that search being so ...well..premeditated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 11:02:55 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA


Transcripts of 011 calls

http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/caylee_911calls.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 11:04:06 AM
Sea,can't type...not 011 but 911 .  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:04:28 AM
If I put my sexy LP back in the closet then you ladies won't get the juicy details that you love so much. LE isn't going to tell you anything. They will be tight lipped and you will be so out of the loop. But if you think LP is getting in the way I'll lasso the cutie pie and corral him in my bedroom for ya.
Tim isn't talking. LE isn't talking. Baez isn't talking. The Ants are letter writing and have gone silent. The only thing you will hear is NG and her lawyer friends. Maybe it's time for some silence about this case.
Be careful what you wish for.

Will the trial be televised?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:05:00 AM

 ::MonkeyCool:: Yes I believe he did.


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Oh Trimm, that looks so good to me right now!! It will go well with the Spam Leroy is making me!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:05:51 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA

Found this link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FB6D35E7AB1C403843DC996923C86ECA?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
I put LP and the National Enquire on the same level.

I think back to LP saying in the beginning... that we are going to see the dumpster is going to play a big factor in this case...and the dumpster didn't have anything to do with it.

I think LP gives educated guesses that will get/keep peopled glued to every word.  Thinking he has an "in".... I don't think he has an "in" anymore... just always buzzing around and inquiring at the scenes and with people.  Nobody is confiding in him.  I don't think he's a bad guy, I find him amusing...just like the National Enquire...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....and HAPPY NEW YEAR!  ::cartwheel::

Was wondering.... remember when LP had to take that lie detector test for LE... anyone ever hear anything more about it?

gm blaze....if I remember correctly, lp said on ng, that orlando le were going to fly to cali to poly him, however, I am not sure he has been in cali long enough for le to find him there.
mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:08:58 AM
How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Boo....I am sorry...you are correct....that came from something I received privately and I shouldn't have mentioned it....sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 11:11:18 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:11:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....and HAPPY NEW YEAR!  ::cartwheel::

Was wondering.... remember when LP had to take that lie detector test for LE... anyone ever hear anything more about it?

gm blaze....if I remember correctly, lp said on ng, that orlando le were going to fly to cali to poly him, however, I am not sure he has been in cali long enough for le to find him there.
mio

Thanks for the response Mio... He probably figures LE won't go the expense to fly out to cali.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 11:12:45 AM
I have to agree with IslandMonkey on the LP issue (sorry JJ).  I just cant seem to figure out his motives except wanting his face splattered on the TV all the time.

(P.S. Boo, do you like Spam?)  ::MonkeyWink::

Leroy sweetie, anything you make is fine, I'm sick and can't taste anything anyway. I appreciate the effort!!

boo, I hope you feel better, I too have had this flu from haties for 10 days now, I lost three days last week,  yesterday, was my first real meal.  Still feels like someone is choking my air passage off...  but, this morning, even Leroy;s spam made me hungry, had to cook some bacon!!  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:15:23 AM
I have read D. Casey's  statements several times now about why he was taking pictures ....it doesn't make sense. He was looking for a live Caylee.....so why bother to go take pictures of the area to eliminate it as a location where kids hung out? IMO he is lying threw his teeth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:15:54 AM
Who is Joy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 11:16:42 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA

Found this link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FB6D35E7AB1C403843DC996923C86ECA?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Well, that clarifies the stolen car question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:17:09 AM
To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!
Just because everything is bigger in Texas... doesn't make it disgusting... or something. 
Everytime I saw Tim whining on NG I wanted to change the channel. He accused LP of a money making scheme in this case which was a private matter and had nothing to do with finding the remains. Tim needed money to continue searching and pay his bills, but he threw insults probably because he wasn't allowed in the LP closed team.
LP brings NG bigger ratings. The MSM is a business of whores. No denying that.
They want you to yell at your tv, and keep watching. MSM for ya.
MWWS on wikipedia is also interesting. Another media trick to get us hooked.

Anyway, the theory of Casey seducing the father of her baby all makes sense to me now. All the little puzzle pieces are coming together.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:18:12 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:18:48 AM
I think that investigator that says he has the video footage is lying.
There are so many that just want so bad to be noticed and be "important" and are seeing this sad situation as an "opportunity".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 02, 2009, 11:18:58 AM
How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I’m trying to decide just what part LP is playing in all this. Did he get involved in this for his own benefit or when he first bailed KC out of jail was big money backing him and was it coming from a major network by way of Geraldo, who either was or quickly became friends with Baez. Greta also received some of the benefits and may have played a part as well by getting the only in-house interview with the Ants. When LP bailed KC out of jail it ignited the fire storm that has kept this case in the news on a daily basis. I was mad and didn’t much care for him at that point. Shortly after bailing KC out, LP was humiliated and made to look like a chump and I almost felt sorry for him. His image as a top notch bounty hunter was badly tarnished. OK, was it part of the plan to make him look like that, or was he made a fall guy so the powers that be could benefit? Is he now bound and determined to win back his honor or is he still just playing a part to keep this case high profile and make a lot of people a lot of money?  By the way, I’m still waiting for one of his theories to become fact. If that does indeed happen, I will have my answer. Tired of waiting……….


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 11:20:13 AM
I have to agree with IslandMonkey on the LP issue (sorry JJ).  I just cant seem to figure out his motives except wanting his face splattered on the TV all the time.

(P.S. Boo, do you like Spam?)  ::MonkeyWink::

Leroy sweetie, anything you make is fine, I'm sick and can't taste anything anyway. I appreciate the effort!!

boo, I hope you feel better, I too have had this flu from haties for 10 days now, I lost three days last week,  yesterday, was my first real meal.  Still feels like someone is choking my air passage off...  but, this morning, even Leroy;s spam made me hungry, had to cook some bacon!!  mio


 :smt056  Hope you feel better Mio. If I lost 3 days around here...there's no telling where I'd wind up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I love to read your posts.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:20:23 AM
To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!
Just because everything is bigger in Texas... doesn't make it disgusting... or something. 
Everytime I saw Tim whining on NG I wanted to change the channel. He accused LP of a money making scheme in this case which was a private matter and had nothing to do with finding the remains. Tim needed money to continue searching and pay his bills, but he threw insults probably because he wasn't allowed in the LP closed team.
LP brings NG bigger ratings. The MSM is a business of whores. No denying that.
They want you to yell at your tv, and keep watching. MSM for ya.
MWWS on wikipedia is also interesting. Another media trick to get us hooked.

Anyway, the theory of Casey seducing the father of her baby all makes sense to me now. All the little puzzle pieces are coming together.



JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::
Good point.
Who assembled the dreamteam? The timing seems to be significant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:22:55 AM
I think that investigator that says he has the video footage is lying.
There are so many that just want so bad to be noticed and be "important" and are seeing this sad situation as an "opportunity".


That was my first thought....after the shock of hearing about it...but LP and Kathy B have both said they saw the tape so I think there msut be something....but LP said the area taped was IIRC 600 ft off base.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.

good find no1Z>>-->> it surely sounds like crazy did research after watching this episode...
nothing can hide from monkey eyes !!   ::MonkeyEek::  mio

I always knew the day she looked up chloroform and what not, was the day of her bday, or the day before. She did it big on her BDAY last year, there is still pictures of her in a paper tiara on last years bday. So im guessing she must have needed to put caylee to bed before being able to go out like mommy said. Its definitely premeditated murder with that search being so ...well..premeditated.

This "One Tree Hill" episode thing was actually the subject of my very first post on 11/28. Then all of a sudden it is all over the news last week, as if LE was just investigating it. I guess I should have contacted LE on the 28th of November, but I thought it would be something they had already noticed on their own. Oh, well! Next time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 11:23:13 AM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA

Found this link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FB6D35E7AB1C403843DC996923C86ECA?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Well, that clarifies the stolen car question.
If I put my sexy LP back in the closet then you ladies won't get the juicy details that you love so much. LE isn't going to tell you anything. They will be tight lipped and you will be so out of the loop. But if you think LP is getting in the way I'll lasso the cutie pie and corral him in my bedroom for ya.
Tim isn't talking. LE isn't talking. Baez isn't talking. The Ants are letter writing and have gone silent. The only thing you will hear is NG and her lawyer friends. Maybe it's time for some silence about this case.
Be careful what you wish for.

Will the trial be televised?




My thoughts, exactly...NG & LP are the only ones who keep us up-to-date.  BTY, JJ, there's no way you're putting LP in the closet because I'm going to ride off into the sunset with him.    ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:23:18 AM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 11:24:14 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO
I think this is going to turn into something big, the PI, Joy, whoever this little girl is, and I am reluctant to mention the meter man. Something stinks real bad, and it is going to explode. I can hardly think about all this and knowing Caylee's remains are still sitting at the mortuary.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 11:24:22 AM
IMO, Nejames seems to be a very honest person. I wasn't thrilled when it was announced he was representing the Ants but I do respect him for being up front and not allowing the Ants to take his reputation down the tubes with them. I know he became very close to Tim Miller and he even let Tim use his club in Orlando for the organizational meetings prior to the search.  He's a very dedicated husband and father, so I think the more he knew, the more it was getting to him. I really admire him for dropping them like a hot potato!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::
Good point.
Who assembled the dreamteam? The timing seems to be significant.
Baez, but I'm sure his good buddy Geraldo actually did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Rise and Shine!

If LE knows who the father of Caylee is wouldn't he be considered next of kin over C&G - therefore, wouldn't they have to release Caylee's remains to him?

Perhaps that is the hold up with the funeral arrangements....
I think you are right that father, if known, would be next of kin, and first in line for making decisions.
I wish if there were any guys who think they might be her father they would step forward and do the DNA. I think the A's were just being controlling to not have the fathers name on there if they knew unless of course it is a close relative. The father has the right to have the remains over the A's becuase they have disrespected her throughout this whole process and especially wanting full immunity to save their own necks but failed to save her life.
They knew what Casey was like and just had their own problems and overlooked the madness of their dysfunctional family. They failed as grandparents when they didn't insist in 31 days to personally check on Caylee. I would never let that time go by without finding her especially if she lived with me all her life.

I probably wouldn't, either, but there's not a lot you can do if the parent has her and refuses to answer the phone or tell you where she is. Cindy didn't take it lying down--she got online and went off about it. I'd be surprised if she wasn't calling around to Casey's friends asking about Caylee the whole time.

And if you don't have custody, then if you take the child it's kidnapping. I think Cindy was able to believe the kidnapping story for a little bit, because she herself wanted to take Caylee from Casey and not give her back.

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

Not too bright. She seems to have thought along these lines:  okay, she steals from me, she rips off her friends, she lies and always has. But she would never hurt Caylee--she loves that little girl. She could have called in the car stolen the minute Casey left the house, but Casey would just have found another ride and taken Caylee.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 11:27:19 AM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.

good find no1Z>>-->> it surely sounds like crazy did research after watching this episode...
nothing can hide from monkey eyes !!   ::MonkeyEek::  mio

I always knew the day she looked up chloroform and what not, was the day of her bday, or the day before. She did it big on her BDAY last year, there is still pictures of her in a paper tiara on last years bday. So im guessing she must have needed to put caylee to bed before being able to go out like mommy said. Its definitely premeditated murder with that search being so ...well..premeditated.

This "One Tree Hill" episode thing was actually the subject of my very first post on 11/28. Then all of a sudden it is all over the news last week, as if LE was just investigating it. I guess I should have contacted LE on the 28th of November, but I thought it would be something they had already noticed on their own. Oh, well! Next time!

Welll.... Spit it out hunny!! LE might be lame on your heels, but the monkeys here would love to hear watchu think! Lots of posts go unseen, theres way too many threads.! I know almost nothing about this episode..just that her name was NANNY Carrie and she gets caught with the child unharmened, and is killed in a later episode..but i want to know how she kidnaps the kid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 11:29:32 AM

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My thoughts, exactly...NG & LP are the only ones who keep us up-to-date.  BTY, JJ, there's no way you're putting LP in the closet because I'm going to ride off into the sunset with him.    ::MonkeyLaugh::
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Where did all of those other quotes come from in my previous post?    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:29:45 AM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:29:56 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO
I think this is going to turn into something big, the PI, Joy, whoever this little girl is, and I am reluctant to mention the meter man. Something stinks real bad, and it is going to explode. I can hardly think about all this and knowing Caylee's remains are still sitting at the mortuary.

Isn't the meter man supposed to be making a  statement soon? If that happens it might be very interesting indeed ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::
Good point.
Who assembled the dreamteam? The timing seems to be significant.
Baez, but I'm sure his good buddy Geraldo actually did.
Geraldo the news guy?
That would explain who paid the guy to videotape. A buyer. He's all about sensationalism and jumps the chance all the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:31:12 AM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I've heard a couple of monkeys mention this but I don't understand the significance of it. Why are people wondering about Nov 14th Henry Lee examines car and the Nov 15th PI video. I don't get how they might be connected??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:31:59 AM
IMO, Nejames seems to be a very honest person. I wasn't thrilled when it was announced he was representing the Ants but I do respect him for being up front and not allowing the Ants to take his reputation down the tubes with them. I know he became very close to Tim Miller and he even let Tim use his club in Orlando for the organizational meetings prior to the search.  He's a very dedicated husband and father, so I think the more he knew, the more it was getting to him. I really admire him for dropping them like a hot potato!!!

Me too! He seems to be a very honorable man and refused to be a part of the A's cover up for casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
In this day and age, everyone seems to be completely lawsuit crazy, so, I often wonder why LP doesn't get a wee bit nervous when he's sitting there on NG, spouting out all of his wild ideas about this case.  Even on this board, I try and use the "IMO" cover when I state a personal opinion about something that either may or may not have happened.  I would think that NG would be a great one to drop a bug in LP's ear about the likelihood of being sued for something you might say about a case, or the manner in how you say it.  Just this morning, one of our local stations in Orlando had a story about NG's ongoing suit by the Duckett family.  When watching LP, I just shake my head and wonder where in the heck did he come up with these ideas???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
I have to agree with IslandMonkey on the LP issue (sorry JJ).  I just cant seem to figure out his motives except wanting his face splattered on the TV all the time.

(P.S. Boo, do you like Spam?)  ::MonkeyWink::

Leroy sweetie, anything you make is fine, I'm sick and can't taste anything anyway. I appreciate the effort!!

boo, I hope you feel better, I too have had this flu from haties for 10 days now, I lost three days last week,  yesterday, was my first real meal.  Still feels like someone is choking my air passage off...  but, this morning, even Leroy;s spam made me hungry, had to cook some bacon!!  mio


 :smt056  Hope you feel better Mio. If I lost 3 days around here...there's no telling where I'd wind up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I love to read your posts.  ::MonkeyCool::

thanks  for the monkey kindness....   unlike the anthonys, I can not take drugs,,,makes me sicker if that could happen....so, I mixed up some herbs, sniffed the steam, helped a lot..mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:33:29 AM

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

That is very true, Boo.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:33:39 AM
boo, I hope you feel better, I too have had this flu from haties for 10 days now, I lost three days last week,  yesterday, was my first real meal.  Still feels like someone is choking my air passage off...  but, this morning, even Leroy;s spam made me hungry, had to cook some bacon!!  mio

Thank hunny, it's hard being sick, I hate it. I hope you feel better too! Leroy is a good cook, eh?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:34:59 AM
I think that investigator that says he has the video footage is lying.
There are so many that just want so bad to be noticed and be "important" and are seeing this sad situation as an "opportunity".


That was my first thought....after the shock of hearing about it...but LP and Kathy B have both said they saw the tape so I think there msut be something....but LP said the area taped was IIRC 600 ft off base.

hmmmmm....don't know what to think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:37:52 AM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...

Thanks Blaze...interesting article.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JodyO on January 02, 2009, 11:38:50 AM
How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I’m trying to decide just what part LP is playing in all this. Did he get involved in this for his own benefit or when he first bailed KC out of jail was big money backing him and was it coming from a major network by way of Geraldo, who either was or quickly became friends with Baez. Greta also received some of the benefits and may have played a part as well by getting the only in-house interview with the Ants. When LP bailed KC out of jail it ignited the fire storm that has kept this case in the news on a daily basis. I was mad and didn’t much care for him at that point. Shortly after bailing KC out, LP was humiliated and made to look like a chump and I almost felt sorry for him. His image as a top notch bounty hunter was badly tarnished. OK, was it part of the plan to make him look like that, or was he made a fall guy so the powers that be could benefit? Is he now bound and determined to win back his honor or is he still just playing a part to keep this case high profile and make a lot of people a lot of money?  By the way, I’m still waiting for one of his theories to become fact. If that does indeed happen, I will have my answer. Tired of waiting……….

Sunny,

I'm with you. I can't see ANY good that LP has done since he first appeared on the scene to add another layer, screwing up this case.

N2WISHN,

I can't see how he has done any good by his continued presence in the case. I have thought until recently that he has only his own interests at heart with no consideration for anyone else or how he might screw up LE's efforts. I now suspect that he is acting not only for himself, but most likely with or for someone who has remained in the background funding the defense.

TURBO,

If you read this, it was my comments about LP, the designated "saint," that got me booted from W/S.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:40:32 AM
http://wantedfugitives.com/video.html
LP's website


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:40:36 AM
To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!
Just because everything is bigger in Texas... doesn't make it disgusting... or something. 
Everytime I saw Tim whining on NG I wanted to change the channel. He accused LP of a money making scheme in this case which was a private matter and had nothing to do with finding the remains. Tim needed money to continue searching and pay his bills, but he threw insults probably because he wasn't allowed in the LP closed team.
LP brings NG bigger ratings. The MSM is a business of whores. No denying that.
They want you to yell at your tv, and keep watching. MSM for ya.
MWWS on wikipedia is also interesting. Another media trick to get us hooked.

Anyway, the theory of Casey seducing the father of her baby all makes sense to me now. All the little puzzle pieces are coming together.



JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK

Sunny~help me bit emy tongue ::MonkeyEek:: Tim is a man of character, not a media whore. He searches because it is the right thing to do, not to try and revive a Bounty hunter Show that was dropped. I have never heard Tim whine about a damn thing, Tim actually searched the area while LP showed up in boots (never intendeding on searching) and signed autographs. When Tim returned to Orlando after the remains were found the LE took him and showed him the crime scene, LP stood near the Anthony's home and crime scene autographing????? Just google LP + theories, it took me hours to get thru half the info because he is reviled by many, go ahead and look-made me feel better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 11:42:48 AM
In this day and age, everyone seems to be completely lawsuit crazy, so, I often wonder why LP doesn't get a wee bit nervous when he's sitting there on NG, spouting out all of his wild ideas about this case.  Even on this board, I try and use the "IMO" cover when I state a personal opinion about something that either may or may not have happened.  I would think that NG would be a great one to drop a bug in LP's ear about the likelihood of being sued for something you might say about a case, or the manner in how you say it.  Just this morning, one of our local stations in Orlando had a story about NG's ongoing suit by the Duckett family.  When watching LP, I just shake my head and wonder where in the heck did he come up with these ideas???


Ann, when I've listened to LP, the only times I remember him being definite about something is when it personally involved him, such as being at the As's home, or someone directly talking to him.  Otherwise, it appears to me that if he's speculating, he says something like: "In my opinion."  Maybe I'm just not picking-up on what you've said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 11:42:55 AM
Anyone have any ideas why JB hasn't requested a different location for the trial?  And...does anyone know if he ever picked up the $900 worth of tips from LE?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:45:25 AM


Sunny~help me bit emy tongue ::MonkeyEek:: Tim is a man of character, not a media whore. He searches because it is the right thing to do, not to try and revive a Bounty hunter Show that was dropped. I have never heard Tim whine about a damn thing, Tim actually searched the area while LP showed up in boots (never intendeding on searching) and signed autographs. When Tim returned to Orlando after the remains were found the LE took him and showed him the crime scene, LP stood near the Anthony's home and crime scene autographing????? Just google LP + theories, it took me hours to get thru half the info because he is reviled by many, go ahead and look-made me feel better.

IM...you know the truth and sometimes things are not worth debating.......Tim will still be looking to bring lost souls home and LP will be out looking for crooks when this is all over. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:45:53 AM
http://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/squeeze-play-alleged-in-bail-bond-business.doc

Article on a lawsuit from LP's brother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...
Wow thanks. I'm checking out the Renegade forum.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: ShariVari on January 02, 2009, 11:47:28 AM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP!  ::MonkeyTongue::

While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Anyone have any ideas why JB hasn't requested a different location for the trial?  And...does anyone know if he ever picked up the $900 worth of tips from LE?

IMO he is going to stall as long as possible and to the best of my knowledge he never picked up the tips.  IIRC he made a statement saying they need them now. I wonder if the state has ever subpoenaed all the so called tips from the A's tip line? I'd love to read those ::MonkeyWink:: 

Was D Casey the PI who supposedly was watching the kidnappers? per GA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Anyone have any ideas why JB hasn't requested a different location for the trial?  And...does anyone know if he ever picked up the $900 worth of tips from LE?
ummm. Because he's incompetent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: sandy leiva on January 02, 2009, 11:51:15 AM

Good Evening Monks old and new!!  Finally got all the company out the door, kitchen cleaned......and missed NG.  I tried scanning through but didn't retain a whole lot ::MonkeyNoNo::  Please someone explain about the LP bombshell and the video! If he knew in Nov that Caylee was dead (told to him by the PI) Did he tell the LE and FBI? Has he been sitting on this info? I can't imagine him doing that......but if he told why in the hell wasn't the PI brought in and questioned? Was the PI not working for  the A's in Nov..not BJ?  Why wasn't the area searched water or not?  I am so confused about this...can anyone explain?
According to LP today on CNN Headline News, LP was not told about the video until Dec 15 or 16, after Caylee's remains were found.

That would be a real bummer if they have sat on information and left that baby out in the woods like that.  If that is the case, someone needs to fry.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

good morning monkeys, does anyone remember in what month lenard padilla wenton tne air (prolly ng) to say that new info showed anthonys were told by le that caylee was gone and that "they were all on the same page"  im thinking it was in early nov. but not positive.  Im wondring if this was when the pi,s were discussing about filming  near caylee  remains. he LP just made such a deal about how they were all on the same page with the truth about caylees demise and the a week or two later the ant.s lawyer dropped them.  anyonerecall?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:52:10 AM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 11:52:41 AM
In this day and age, everyone seems to be completely lawsuit crazy, so, I often wonder why LP doesn't get a wee bit nervous when he's sitting there on NG, spouting out all of his wild ideas about this case.  Even on this board, I try and use the "IMO" cover when I state a personal opinion about something that either may or may not have happened.  I would think that NG would be a great one to drop a bug in LP's ear about the likelihood of being sued for something you might say about a case, or the manner in how you say it.  Just this morning, one of our local stations in Orlando had a story about NG's ongoing suit by the Duckett family.  When watching LP, I just shake my head and wonder where in the heck did he come up with these ideas???

you beat me to the punch on ng, and them  being sued over the melinda and trenton duckett case. I had never heard of ng until trenton went missing...

Now, I  too mimic a dashboard bobble head when watching lp or ng.
 So far, seems no one has openly called him on all his ,,"you wait and see's"...caylee is alive, casey is innocent, she is guilty, caylee is in the river, caylee is in dumpster, caylee is in the dump..  I love information, but, my brain has no room to store things that have not been verified as truths.  If he says, in his opinion, then I am fine with that.   

This whole case has certainly been  of too many chiefs, and not enough indians. 
The thing is, this child they are haggling over, deserves to be laid to rest, properly, and with respect.   a priority I hope they acknowledge soon.  >>-->>>  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:52:46 AM
I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.
No, just sayin that George wasn't the evil aggressor. Sure he's guilty of participating. Maybe Casey drugged him. Who knows. I just always thought that incest was man against woman, and never considered that Casey could have been woman against man in this instance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 11:54:15 AM
Snip from an article:

"This isn’t the first time Padilla has run for mayor, in fact this is his fourth run at the office. He has also ran for congress in 2005 and for a supervisor’s seat in 2006."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:55:13 AM
In this day and age, everyone seems to be completely lawsuit crazy, so, I often wonder why LP doesn't get a wee bit nervous when he's sitting there on NG, spouting out all of his wild ideas about this case.  Even on this board, I try and use the "IMO" cover when I state a personal opinion about something that either may or may not have happened.  I would think that NG would be a great one to drop a bug in LP's ear about the likelihood of being sued for something you might say about a case, or the manner in how you say it.  Just this morning, one of our local stations in Orlando had a story about NG's ongoing suit by the Duckett family.  When watching LP, I just shake my head and wonder where in the heck did he come up with these ideas???

you beat me to the punch on ng, and them  being sued over the melinda and trenton duckett case. I had never heard of ng until trenton went missing...

Now, I  too mimic a dashboard bobble head when watching lp or ng.
 So far, seems no one has openly called him on all his ,,"you wait and see's"...caylee is alive, casey is innocent, she is guilty, caylee is in the river, caylee is in dumpster, caylee is in the dump..  I love information, but, my brain has no room to store things that have not been verified as truths.  If he says, in his opinion, then I am fine with that.   

This whole case has certainly been  of too many chiefs, and not enough indians. 
The thing is, this child they are haggling over, deserves to be laid to rest, properly, and with respect.   a priority I hope they acknowledge soon.  >>-->>>  mio

It's not his job to tell us the truth. His job is to achieve justice and round up criminals.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:58:13 AM
Snip from an article:

"This isn’t the first time Padilla has run for mayor, in fact this is his fourth run at the office. He has also ran for congress in 2005 and for a supervisor’s seat in 2006."
Lots of LE guys go this route. It's like a semi-retirement from the field when they get older. So maybe he's networking, good for him.

If anyone is frustrated about this case blame Casey. She's jurt alot of people with her actions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 11:59:47 AM


good morning monkeys, does anyone remember in what month lenard padilla wenton tne air (prolly ng) to say that new info showed anthonys were told by le that caylee was gone and that "they were all on the same page"  im thinking it was in early nov. but not positive.  Im wondring if this was when the pi,s were discussing about filming  near caylee  remains. he LP just made such a deal about how they were all on the same page with the truth about caylees demise and the a week or two later the ant.s lawyer dropped them.  anyonerecall?


Sandy I honestly do not remember this at all....I hope someone else does


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:01:07 PM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.

Blaze you are on a roll!!! I couldn't open the last one...my puter froze up and I had to reboot......can you give a rundown on what it was about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
Snip from an article:

"This isn’t the first time Padilla has run for mayor, in fact this is his fourth run at the office. He has also ran for congress in 2005 and for a supervisor’s seat in 2006."
Lots of LE guys go this route. It's like a semi-retirement from the field when they get older. So maybe he's networking, good for him.

If anyone is frustrated about this case blame Casey. She's jurt alot of people with her actions.

LP is 68 years old. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 12:03:10 PM
If LP had anything credible to say or "inside info" then I would think LE would be forcing him to keep his mouth shut.  And I also think LP is smart enough to not say anything that would hurt the case against Casey.  Or at least I would hope so.

I take what he says with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:03:18 PM


Sunny~help me bit emy tongue ::MonkeyEek:: Tim is a man of character, not a media whore. He searches because it is the right thing to do, not to try and revive a Bounty hunter Show that was dropped. I have never heard Tim whine about a damn thing, Tim actually searched the area while LP showed up in boots (never intendeding on searching) and signed autographs. When Tim returned to Orlando after the remains were found the LE took him and showed him the crime scene, LP stood near the Anthony's home and crime scene autographing????? Just google LP + theories, it took me hours to get thru half the info because he is reviled by many, go ahead and look-made me feel better.

IM...you know the truth and sometimes things are not worth debating.......Tim will still be looking to bring lost souls home and LP will be out looking for crooks when this is all over. ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks, you are a wise monkey! I just don't want to see the investigation jeopardized by someone who isn't even a part of it, except in his own mind ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 12:06:15 PM
In this day and age, everyone seems to be completely lawsuit crazy, so, I often wonder why LP doesn't get a wee bit nervous when he's sitting there on NG, spouting out all of his wild ideas about this case.  Even on this board, I try and use the "IMO" cover when I state a personal opinion about something that either may or may not have happened.  I would think that NG would be a great one to drop a bug in LP's ear about the likelihood of being sued for something you might say about a case, or the manner in how you say it.  Just this morning, one of our local stations in Orlando had a story about NG's ongoing suit by the Duckett family.  When watching LP, I just shake my head and wonder where in the heck did he come up with these ideas???

you beat me to the punch on ng, and them  being sued over the melinda and trenton duckett case. I had never heard of ng until trenton went missing...

Now, I  too mimic a dashboard bobble head when watching lp or ng.
 So far, seems no one has openly called him on all his ,,"you wait and see's"...caylee is alive, casey is innocent, she is guilty, caylee is in the river, caylee is in dumpster, caylee is in the dump..  I love information, but, my brain has no room to store things that have not been verified as truths.  If he says, in his opinion, then I am fine with that.   

This whole case has certainly been  of too many chiefs, and not enough indians. 
The thing is, this child they are haggling over, deserves to be laid to rest, properly, and with respect.   a priority I hope they acknowledge soon.  >>-->>>  mio

It's not his job to tell us the truth. His job is to achieve justice and round up criminals.

oh, I am sorry, I had not realized lp had been hired by orlando le to solve this case. ::MonkeyConfused::..and imo, it is EVERYONES job, to be truthful..lies are the cause of the evil we have been writting about here.  mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 12:07:34 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 12:08:13 PM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.

Blaze you are on a roll!!! I couldn't open the last one...my puter froze up and I had to reboot......can you give a rundown on what it was about?

I am on a roll, arn't I???  hehehe
LP just makes me wonder and sense you guys were talking about him, I had to do my own little "look up" and found some interesting stuff that I thought I would share with my fellow monkeys..

This page was saying that LP wants to be famous like "dog the bounty hunter".   It talks about LP running for mayor and that he enjoys the lime light.  It gives LP's bio....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: pink angel on January 02, 2009, 12:10:57 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.

Anything is possible with this case. Sure would be interesting to know if Joy has a young daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 12:11:06 PM
Just my thought on Henry Lee and the examination of Casey's car on Nov 14. He told Baez that there was for sure a decomposing body in trunk, Baez went to Casey with the info that they can't get around that, even though I'm sure Henry Lee might lie about that, ::MonkeyRoll:: she told Baez where remains of Caylee are, PI's next day making a video, and day after that Caylee sighting at mall. Just sort of fits, but my imagination is probably running wild. I have not heard much at all from Henry Lee, I'm suspcious of that also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:12:15 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.

I don't think so...I think the store clerks thought it might be Caylee.....what I find strange is no one has come forward to claim this is their child (that we know of)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:13:26 PM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.

Blaze you are on a roll!!! I couldn't open the last one...my puter froze up and I had to reboot......can you give a rundown on what it was about?

I am on a roll, arn't I???  hehehe
LP just makes me wonder and sense you guys were talking about him, I had to do my own little "look up" and found some interesting stuff that I thought I would share with my fellow monkeys..

This page was saying that LP wants to be famous like "dog the bounty hunter".   It talks about LP running for mayor and that he enjoys the lime light.  It gives LP's bio....

hahahahaha keep up the good work!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: pink angel on January 02, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
Just my thought on Henry Lee and the examination of Casey's car on Nov 14. He told Baez that there was for sure a decomposing body in trunk, Baez went to Casey with the info that they can't get around that, even though I'm sure Henry Lee might lie about that, ::MonkeyRoll:: she told Baez where remains of Caylee are, PI's next day making a video, and day after that Caylee sighting at mall. Just sort of fits, but my imagination is probably running wild. I have not heard much at all from Henry Lee, I'm suspcious of that also.

I'm with you on this one. I think George and Cindy were informed also because soon after Mark NeJames resigned. I think he wanted no part of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 12:14:14 PM
::OUCH:: 

Darn water still too hot in here this mornin!

 ::MonkeyTongue::

Darn these slow media days!  Come on Baez do something stupid for me! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:16:57 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.

I don't think so...I think the store clerks thought it might be Caylee.....what I find strange is no one has come forward to claim this is their child (that we know of)

I think the store clerks got paid to snap photos of any child who looked like Caylee. They didn't call the tip line or LE or even mall security when they "thought" they saw Caylee and her kidnapper. This was all about trying to find a "live" Caylee to create reasonable doubt. And if the body hadn't been found, it would have worked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:17:30 PM
Just my thought on Henry Lee and the examination of Casey's car on Nov 14. He told Baez that there was for sure a decomposing body in trunk, Baez went to Casey with the info that they can't get around that, even though I'm sure Henry Lee might lie about that, ::MonkeyRoll:: she told Baez where remains of Caylee are, PI's next day making a video, and day after that Caylee sighting at mall. Just sort of fits, but my imagination is probably running wild. I have not heard much at all from Henry Lee, I'm suspcious of that also.

this is entirely possible............I do believe that BJ knows that casey killed Caylee and knows where she dumpede her body.....that is wht D. Casey was out ther shooting the crime area BEFOE CAylee was found... I know it's his job to see that she gets a fair trial............what a shiggy job to chose for a living!  How does he sleep at night!?!?!?! Thank goodness the state is there to see that Caylee is represented!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:18:02 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.

I don't think so...I think the store clerks thought it might be Caylee.....what I find strange is no one has come forward to claim this is their child (that we know of)

It'd be ironic if she were the child of one of the store clerks. Just sayin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:21:56 PM
If this ever goes to trial who do you think will be the most damning witness against casey?

My DH thinks the A's asking for immunity is a ploy to get casey to fess up...I disagree with him.........he knows about the case but can't get him mind around the evilness of this family


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







Agree with all but 3 & 4, and wonder why your psychologist friend is so sure it's George and not Lee. Also, re: the bucket list theory, wasn't she doing a lot of this stuff while she still had Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 12:22:16 PM
I'm bothered by these dates.... Nov 14 Henry Lee examines car....Nov 15 PI's video....Nov 16 Caylee sighting at Orlando Mall. I can't shake the feeling that the little girl at the Mall is a relative of one of the players. I sure hope it isn't one of Joy's kids, I would not put it passed her though. ::MonkeyEek::

I have been surprised that no one has come forward saying this is my child...not Caylee. Or if they prefer to remain anonymous why the LE hasn't made a statement that the parents came forward and the photo is not of Caylee. So this child being a pawn is quite possible. IMO

This would mean that the two store clerks that took the pictures would be in on it also.  Possible, but IMHO not probable.

I don't think so...I think the store clerks thought it might be Caylee.....what I find strange is no one has come forward to claim this is their child (that we know of)

It'd be ironic if she were the child of one of the store clerks. Just sayin.
At this point nothing would surprise me. I know Joy has three kids, one I know is a little boy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 12:23:06 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:23:07 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:23:08 PM


I think the store clerks got paid to snap photos of any child who looked like Caylee. They didn't call the tip line or LE or even mall security when they "thought" they saw Caylee and her kidnapper. This was all about trying to find a "live" Caylee to create reasonable doubt. And if the body hadn't been found, it would have worked.


anything is a possiblity at this point


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:23:33 PM

Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

I agree. Stuff like that drives me crazy. A friend of mine (that I recently connected with after years of not seeing each other), just ended a long relationship with a woman (who has children).. supposedly in part because he wanted his own kids.. Why get into a relationship with somebody who already has children, if you know you're never going to be serious about marrying them... unless it's all about sex or perhaps temporary companionship? It's just selfish, IMO.  And Casey - if she were a good mother - should have known better than to get involved with Tony, for that reason alone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 12:23:57 PM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA

Found this link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FB6D35E7AB1C403843DC996923C86ECA?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

sorry..got distracted
Thanks QM for this link, I will bookmark the site...and thanks to those who also posted a link  ::MonkeyCool::

<SNIP>

Operator: Hello

Cindy Anthony:  Hi, I drove to the police department here on Pershing but you guys are closed.  I need to bring someone into the police department. Can you tell me where I can? the closest one I can come too.

Operator: What are you trying to accomplish by bringing them to the station?

Cindy Anthony: I have a 22-year-old person that has um grand theft sitting in my auto with me.

Operator: So the 22-year-old person stole something?

Cindy Anthony: Yes

Operator: Is this a relative?

Cindy Anthony: Yes

Operator: Where did they steal it from?

Cindy Anthony: Um, my car and also money

Operator: OK. Is this your son?

Cindy Anthony: Daughter

Operator: OK, so your daughter stole money from your car?

Cindy Anthony: No. My car was stolen.  We've retrived it, today we found out where it was at. We've retrieved it, I've got that. And I've got affidavits from my banking account. I want to bring her in. I want to press charges.
____________________________________________________________

This is what has me raising an eyebrow (one only  ::MonkeyTongue:: ) I find this statement really odd..if Cindy thought the car was stolen, why not call when the car was first missing..also, she knew KC had the car so how does that make it stolen ? This looks scripted to me JMO...a prelude of the next 2 calls. I think the A's have been aware of what  happened way before this call was made..and the affidavits ? you just can't get them on a moments notice..takes time, how much time? where are they now?
What makes me think this whole thing was scripted is the premise of reporting a car stolen, that is sitting in your driveway and the one you're accusing is sitting right next to you...would that be a citizens arrest ?  ::MonkeyRoll:: if th car is not actually stolen, isn't that a crime, to make a false report to 911? The whole thing is just very odd..

The LE have coddled the Anthony family and I think it's time for the gloves to come off...I hope they do soon and everything is exposed.. as far as the burial is concerned..if CA & GA are arrested, couldn't another relative step in and get this done..Rick or Shirley perhaps? I don't know these things as I have yet to deal with funeral..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 12:25:24 PM
My thought on Tony, I think he was only using Casey, she cleaned and cooked besides the other obvious reason. I think he didn't want Caylee around because of the environment in the apt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:25:35 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:26:45 PM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.

Blaze you are on a roll!!! I couldn't open the last one...my puter froze up and I had to reboot......can you give a rundown on what it was about?

I can as I've posted it before, LP served time in the Fed Penn for tax evasion IIRC, and was accused of shooting someone, let me find the link...

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/skeletons.html
Leonard Padilla denies that he shot Kevin Johnson's cousin during
an armed robbery attempt at Padilla's establishment in 1975.
April 26, 2008

"...it was my security guard who shot Johnson's cousin...he was armed and
attempting to rob my establishment..."





Padilla addresses his IRS "time away from home".
April 28, 2008

"I plead guilty to 2 misdemeanors for non-filing and non-payment of taxes,
definitely not tax evasion.  I paid approximately $600,000.00 in taxes due
and I did 1 year in a federal detention center from February 1992 to
February 1993."

"Even though the federal probation recommended 5 months home
detention, the IRS investigator (girlfriend of the federal prosecutor)
insisted on me doing 1 year in prison and I went along with her.  So I said
'let's do it'."



.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 12:27:23 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I can not and will not believe that Little Miss Control Freak Cindy did NOT already know!!  This woman has to control every aspect of her "world".  Anthony-ville Mayor Cindy would have been farting nails after the first week Casey pulled this bullcrap.  Honestly I am more inclined that if Zanny gave Casey a script, well then Zanny's real name is Cindy Anthony. 
Sorry no way I buy that a control freak of this nature would allow an entire month to go by and only write a stupid blog on her "MySpace".  BS Cindy....NEXT lie please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 12:28:52 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I can not and will not believe that Little Miss Control Freak Cindy did NOT already know!!  This woman has to control every aspect of her "world".  Anthony-ville Mayor Cindy would have been farting nails after the first week Casey pulled this bullcrap.  Honestly I am more inclined that if Zanny gave Casey a script, well then Zanny's real name is Cindy Anthony. 
Sorry no way I buy that a control freak of this nature would allow an entire month to go by and only write a stupid blog on her "MySpace".  BS Cindy....NEXT lie please!
I agree, she knew.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Stacey on January 02, 2009, 12:31:28 PM
Good morning to all monkeys and welcome newbies.

Could you good monkeys help me with some times please

1-What time did Cindy drop Amy back at the mall after getting Casey from Tony's ?
2-What time did George call Lee to go to the house ?
3-What time did Cindy and Casey get to the house after dropping Amy off ?
4-What time was the first 911 call from Cindy ?

I just can't make out if something is wrong with the 911 calls. Why would George call Lee to go to the house. Was George at the house or did he show up after Lee, Cindy and Casey. I hope LE has his cell phone pings. Just think the times all these things happened and the time the 1st 911 call was made tells a lot. Did they have time to talk about a plan or was it just willy nilly ? It seems odd that from the 1st 911 call and the others I think it's 2 hours so that is along time to be in the house with Casey and not figure something out. Because the way Lee stats things it seems everything went so darn fast.

monkey hugs to all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
::OUCH:: 

Darn water still too hot in here this mornin!

 ::MonkeyTongue::

Darn these slow media days!  Come on Baez do something stupid for me! 

 ::MonkeyDance:: And you know it's just a matter of time.He can't help himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 12:34:32 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 

JMO,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 12:34:33 PM
My thought on Tony, I think he was only using Casey, she cleaned and cooked besides the other obvious reason. I think he didn't want Caylee around because of the environment in the apt.

No Rose i agree with ya! He was just using her, come on the guy met some hot chick on facebook. He had her wrapped around his pinky with his full sail and music career before he even met her. I bet Casey could see herself as the up and coming rappers main squeeze, and could see nothing else. Casey was already becoming very attatched and i dont think he liked it too much, when he left to NY he demonstrates it in his frustration with her constantly wanting to be on the phone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:37:14 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP!  ::MonkeyTongue::

The only thing about the way Casey is sexually, is that something probably made her that way.

George has a gambling problem--that creates the exact same dynamic as alcoholism or drug addiction in a family. Dad feeds himself, Mom exists to feed Dad at the expense of the kids, the good kid feeds Mom and the bad kid imitates Dad and gets attention that way.

I don't think she's have bothered seducing George once she was 19. How would that give you power?

But he might have started a sexual relationship with her when she was 16, in order to feel he was in control of his family, to have something over on Cindy, and because his sense of duty to his children is very weak. He probably saw Casey as a cute chick not as his child. Men who are using drugs or alcohol do have more clouded judgment and are more likely to molest their kids, but IMO that's no excuse.

Casey's screwing like she's out to get revenge or something, like she's trying to empower herself. Meaning she was disempowered by sex at some point. I think somebody had sex with her against her will, and then she figured if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

None of this mitigates her killing Caylee, IMO. But it is one logical explanation for it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
Heya fuzzball. How was your new year? So i was searching to see if any monkeys had been talking about the One Tree Hill episode. So it just so happens, the day she searched for neckbreaking, one tree hill etc. it was the same day that episode she looked up was being aired..that must have peaked her interest for her to just jump on google. Besides, the next day she was going out for her BDAY. i think this is bigger than we all think..iv never watched one tree hill. have you watched this episode?

Nope--never did. But it sounds like she must have watched it and then done some googling to see if what happened on the show was really possible.

good find no1Z>>-->> it surely sounds like crazy did research after watching this episode...
nothing can hide from monkey eyes !!   ::MonkeyEek::  mio

I always knew the day she looked up chloroform and what not, was the day of her bday, or the day before. She did it big on her BDAY last year, there is still pictures of her in a paper tiara on last years bday. So im guessing she must have needed to put caylee to bed before being able to go out like mommy said. Its definitely premeditated murder with that search being so ...well..premeditated.

This "One Tree Hill" episode thing was actually the subject of my very first post on 11/28. Then all of a sudden it is all over the news last week, as if LE was just investigating it. I guess I should have contacted LE on the 28th of November, but I thought it would be something they had already noticed on their own. Oh, well! Next time!

Welll.... Spit it out hunny!! LE might be lame on your heels, but the monkeys here would love to hear watchu think! Lots of posts go unseen, theres way too many threads.! I know almost nothing about this episode..just that her name was NANNY Carrie and she gets caught with the child unharmened, and is killed in a later episode..but i want to know how she kidnaps the kid.

Sorry for the delay in this response, NO1ZLadie -- I had to run to get my 5-month-old and squeeze in a shower while she's napping. Anyhoo, the "One Tree Hill" episode didn't really have many similarities to Casey's nanny story, IMO -- just that a child was kidnapped by the crazy nanny character. She stole the kid in the middle of a wedding on his way to the restroom, and his mother was frantic outside the church trying to figure out what happened to them.

Lots of KC's profiles (on myspace, cupid.com, etc) say she was a fan of "One Tree Hill." They also say she was a fan of the show "Lost."

I believe her search for "lost numbers" on that very same day (as the chloroform, One Tree Hill, etc, searches) was a search for the "Numbers" episode of "Lost." I don't watch that show regularly and have only read that episode's synopsis online, so I am not sure exactly how this episode connects with anything else, if it does at all. However, interestingly enough, there is a big "timer" on each episode of "Lost." (Monkeys can google "Lost" and "timer" -- it's a lot to explain.)

I have always thought that KC's "timer 55" password is somehow connected to all of this, having to do with the show "Lost." I feel she was giving Lee a hint as to the Caylee's status (dead or alive) when she gave him that password. However, I do not know exactly how and what the connection is.

Maybe some monkeys can help with this? And we can contact LE if we find the connection, if it exists?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 02, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
Have any of the Anthony's been arrested yet? ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mioyshi on January 02, 2009, 12:38:03 PM

Good Morning Monkeys!

Uh, the Pontiac was in Cindy's name, all she had to do was report the car stolen the moment Casey took off with Caylee.  And why she didn't do it boggles my mind!

Lisa

This is why I am suspicious of the 911 calls...IIRC, the first call Cindy say's that she wants to report her car stolen.. but the car is in her driveway, she knows who had it and picked it up at Amscot..

I wish I could listen to it again to refresh my mem...but I've said this all along, something is not right about those first 911 calls..I'll see if I can find them to re-listen

I don't remember all the 1st calls either, but I agree something is not right. Just about everything about this case "is not right".
It's all enought to make a Monkey go bananas!  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif) ::MonkeyConfused:: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)  ::MonkeyConfused::  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/objects/produce/16.gif)

I'm trying to find the calls but I'm not very good at searching for these things...I'm on the WFTV site....they have most everything but I can't see them anywhere...

Does anyone have a link to the first 911 calls ?? TIA

Found this link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FB6D35E7AB1C403843DC996923C86ECA?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

sorry..got distracted
Thanks QM for this link, I will bookmark the site...and thanks to those who also posted a link  ::MonkeyCool::

<SNIP>

Operator: Hello

Cindy Anthony:  Hi, I drove to the police department here on Pershing but you guys are closed.  I need to bring someone into the police department. Can you tell me where I can? the closest one I can come too.

Operator: What are you trying to accomplish by bringing them to the station?

Cindy Anthony: I have a 22-year-old person that has um grand theft sitting in my auto with me.

Operator: So the 22-year-old person stole something?

Cindy Anthony: Yes

Operator: Is this a relative?

Cindy Anthony: Yes

Operator: Where did they steal it from?

Cindy Anthony: Um, my car and also money

Operator: OK. Is this your son?

Cindy Anthony: Daughter

Operator: OK, so your daughter stole money from your car?

Cindy Anthony: No. My car was stolen.  We've retrived it, today we found out where it was at. We've retrieved it, I've got that. And I've got affidavits from my banking account. I want to bring her in. I want to press charges.
____________________________________________________________

This is what has me raising an eyebrow (one only  ::MonkeyTongue:: ) I find this statement really odd..if Cindy thought the car was stolen, why not call when the car was first missing..also, she knew KC had the car so how does that make it stolen ? This looks scripted to me JMO...a prelude of the next 2 calls. I think the A's have been aware of what  happened way before this call was made..and the affidavits ? you just can't get them on a moments notice..takes time, how much time? where are they now?
What makes me think this whole thing was scripted is the premise of reporting a car stolen, that is sitting in your driveway and the one you're accusing is sitting right next to you...would that be a citizens arrest ?  ::MonkeyRoll:: if th car is not actually stolen, isn't that a crime, to make a false report to 911? The whole thing is just very odd..

The LE have coddled the Anthony family and I think it's time for the gloves to come off...I hope they do soon and everything is exposed.. as far as the burial is concerned..if CA & GA are arrested, couldn't another relative step in and get this done..Rick or Shirley perhaps? I don't know these things as I have yet to deal with funeral..

good reminder post...

this surely sounds like a scripted call, one not well rehearsed either.  reminded me of a scene in movie fargo, where man practiced how to call his father in law to tell him his wife was missing. He practiced it several times, to get the tone right.   THe next 911 calls  from cindy became  bit more dramatic...and isnt that george we hear in the background of the third call, while cindy spews??   >-> mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Mtnmom on January 02, 2009, 12:38:27 PM
My thought on Tony, I think he was only using Casey, she cleaned and cooked besides the other obvious reason. I think he didn't want Caylee around because of the environment in the apt.

No Rose i agree with ya! He was just using her, come on the guy met some hot chick on facebook. He had her wrapped around his pinky with his full sail and music career before he even met her. I bet Casey could see herself as the up and coming rappers main squeeze, and could see nothing else. Casey was already becoming very attatched and i dont think he liked it too much, when he left to NY he demonstrates it in his frustration with her constantly wanting to be on the phone.

Isnt Tony like only 20 yrs old?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:38:57 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 

JMO,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door

because now my gears are turning..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Isn't it the OTHER Tony who just wanted sex, and not a kid around? He was actually upset because they'd only been together a couple of times.. she kept putting it off. So actually, I don't think Caylee had anything really to do with why she didn't get together with him. She was making up reasons not to be with him (Maybe she used him for whatever purpose it was she wanted him for- access to police records, whatever- and then when she didn't need him anymore, she used all kinds of lame excuses not to show up at his place. He even called her a tease, IIRC).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 12:39:36 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I can not and will not believe that Little Miss Control Freak Cindy did NOT already know!!  This woman has to control every aspect of her "world".  Anthony-ville Mayor Cindy would have been farting nails after the first week Casey pulled this bullcrap.  Honestly I am more inclined that if Zanny gave Casey a script, well then Zanny's real name is Cindy Anthony. 
Sorry no way I buy that a control freak of this nature would allow an entire month to go by and only write a stupid blog on her "MySpace".  BS Cindy....NEXT lie please!

So true...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
George says in his FBI interview that Cindy went as far as to travel down to Universal in order to confront Casey during the month they had not seen her.  He claims that Cindy called Casey from the parking lot of Universal and asked where she was within the park so that she could come in and see her as she was sitting in the parking lot.  Casey replied with "Oh I am not at work, I am in Tampa dealing with Zanny".  So we are suposed to believe that this was the last of her attempts?  This was the last of her efforts?  She just let this go?  This was the first attempt? 
Sorry, again I do not buy this.  If I were to pull this crap on my mother here is how the conversation WOULD go down.
SIMULATION ONLY
Ma: "I am in the parking lot of your work.  Where are you I am coming in to talk."
Me: "Oh I am not at work I am in Tampa."
Ma: "When will you be back?"
Me: "I am not quite sure yet."
Ma: "Wrong, you will be back tonight and will come to the house.  Just note if you do not I will call LE."
Me: "Why?"
Ma: "How do I know you do not have a gun to your head right now.  Will see you tonight."
Me: "Yup"

Cindy did not just let the conversation with Casey go with "I am in Tampa".  No dice!!!  Where is Caylee?  What is going on Casey?  Why are you avoiding us Casey?  We need to talk this out Casey.  All things that I would have been saying if I was in this situation. 
No one has ever come out and said that they tried to talk to Casey in a rational way, it all seems to be a huge screaming and pissing war among them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 02, 2009, 12:46:14 PM
If this ever goes to trial who do you think will be the most damning witness against casey?

My DH thinks the A's asking for immunity is a ploy to get casey to fess up...I disagree with him.........he knows about the case but can't get him mind around the evilness of this family

I don't think KC will EVER confess.  I watched a crime show on TLC the other night.  They reenacted a murder of a mother and father by their daughter.  They started out thinking it was the daughters boyfriend who was in this country illegally.  He go deported and they ended up proving it was the daughter who shot and killed them (in a very violent way-blew their heads off more than once).  At trial they called the boyfriend (brought him back from Mexico to testify) and he said he believed she hated them enough to do this.  She was convicted in less than 15 minutes to 2 consecutive life terms in prison.  SHE NEVER did waver from "I didn't do it".

So I don't believe Casey will ever own up to it either which means Cindy and George and Lee will not either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 12:49:56 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 

JMO,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door

because now my gears are turning..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Isn't it the OTHER Tony who just wanted sex, and not a kid around? He was actually upset because they'd only been together a couple of times.. she kept putting it off. So actually, I don't think Caylee had anything really to do with why she didn't get together with him. She was making up reasons not to be with him (Maybe she used him for whatever purpose it was she wanted him for- access to police records, whatever- and then when she didn't need him anymore, she used all kinds of lame excuses not to show up at his place. He even called her a tease, IIRC).

UH OH,  maybe i am totally wrong.  Wouldn't be the first time.  I totally forget about the other Tony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 12:52:06 PM
http://whathappenedtocayleeanthony.blogspot.com/2008/10/padilla-for-mayor.html

Info on LP running for Mayor, etc.

Blaze you are on a roll!!! I couldn't open the last one...my puter froze up and I had to reboot......can you give a rundown on what it was about?

I can as I've posted it before, LP served time in the Fed Penn for tax evasion IIRC, and was accused of shooting someone, let me find the link...

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/skeletons.html
Leonard Padilla denies that he shot Kevin Johnson's cousin during
an armed robbery attempt at Padilla's establishment in 1975.
April 26, 2008

"...it was my security guard who shot Johnson's cousin...he was armed and
attempting to rob my establishment..."





Padilla addresses his IRS "time away from home".
April 28, 2008

"I plead guilty to 2 misdemeanors for non-filing and non-payment of taxes,
definitely not tax evasion.  I paid approximately $600,000.00 in taxes due
and I did 1 year in a federal detention center from February 1992 to
February 1993."

"Even though the federal probation recommended 5 months home
detention, the IRS investigator (girlfriend of the federal prosecutor)
insisted on me doing 1 year in prison and I went along with her.  So I said
'let's do it'
."



Thanks IM....the bolded above almost made me drop my teeth!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ....the I went along with her part!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 02, 2009, 12:52:37 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Anthony’s PI: no videos of the site where remains found 
 
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 Jan 2009, 9:54 PM EST 


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8181718&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1




FTLOG~ which one is it???? does it exist OR NOT ::MonkeyConfused:: and if it doesn't exist how on earth did Kathy Belich and LP see it?????
That's so weird,Dom Casey looks a lot like the Anthony's atty.I wonder if they are related.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:52:46 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!

At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 12:54:31 PM
While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.
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I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

OK I'm on the fence regarding LP, so I'm not going to comment either way. BUT I never recall LP trashing Tim and TES! Even when Tim was going after him, LP only said nice things about him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember reading anything negative about TES coming from LP.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're right, Boo. LP never had anything but the highest praise for Tim and TES. He never said one negative word about Tim, even while Tim was out there badmouthing LP to anybody who would listen, in the worst possible terms.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door

because now my gears are turning..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Isn't it the OTHER Tony who just wanted sex, and not a kid around? He was actually upset because they'd only been together a couple of times.. she kept putting it off. So actually, I don't think Caylee had anything really to do with why she didn't get together with him. She was making up reasons not to be with him (Maybe she used him for whatever purpose it was she wanted him for- access to police records, whatever- and then when she didn't need him anymore, she used all kinds of lame excuses not to show up at his place. He even called her a tease, IIRC).

UH OH,  maybe i am totally wrong.  Wouldn't be the first time.  I totally forget about the other Tony.


It's very likely neither Tony wanted Caylee around.  The boyfriend (as in, AR) probably thought Caylee was cute enough as a kid.. but wasn't necessarily ready to be her daddy.. and we know by his comments to LE that Casey was much more serious about him than he was about her.  The Tony that was the cop is (I believe) the one who kept calling Caylee "snot head"... and he wanted much more sex from Casey than she was giving him. In those texts, he made her sound like a tease.. and she was pi$$ed about it.  But she was also using the nanny excuse with him, when we know there was no nanny.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
HH brought up this morning the angle of money, and maybe JP Chatt's family who are millionaries are financing Casey's defense, if JP is the father of Caylee. I am even wondering about those pictures of Casey that we have only heard about, though saw one of the pics. Maybe there is some connection money wise for paying Casey's defense. The hush, hush of where the money is coming from is very questionable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


***************************************************
I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 12:55:43 PM
1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.


Thanks for the great reply. Good discussion!
1. Serial killer on a small scale. Usually starts with animals, could be Casey watched at an early age and was inspired. The bedroom of the little girl was all trophies in a way, all over the whole room it was plastered with her. And maybe Casey dumped the trophy and got a tattoo as the trophy instead.
2. If Casey ran off with Jesse at the baby's birth then jilted George could have rebounded and had a crisis by leaving and spending all the money that he promised to Casey (not Cindy). Wonder if he came back to the house when Jesse and Casey split to try and reconcile the relationship?
2. If Casey wanted to hurt Cindy she would have done so by stealing her man George. That's the ultimate hurt. Then to concieve a child with that man is even more pain. Then when Cindy gets so attached to the child Casey kills the child to hurt her even more. All the while toying with George in a little secretive game. Casey was playing a game.

Mainstream incest might not apply here. Because it usually doesn't end up with murder, just runaways and behavior issues. So the twist could be a criminal element with underlying incest that surfaced only because of DNA testing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 12:57:36 PM
Quote
While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

1.) My situation was reverse.. my dad WANTED me to smoke out with him. I never did, because it just made me uncomfortable, even thinking about it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  It had nothing to do with sex. It's just weird!!

2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 12:57:40 PM


At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.
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I cannot fathom LE leaving a little girls remains out in the woods for surveillance purposes.  Or any other purpose for that matter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 01:00:36 PM

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 ::MonkeyCool::

No more tea for you, are we cross gendering now? If so, you are the prettiest little man in the cage!!
All is forgiven, it's the drugs man, they are kicking my butt!!

Oops!  Too much sick child!  I need a vacay!

I am a one man woman!!!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 01:03:57 PM
If this ever goes to trial who do you think will be the most damning witness against casey?

My DH thinks the A's asking for immunity is a ploy to get casey to fess up...I disagree with him.........he knows about the case but can't get him mind around the evilness of this family

I don't think KC will EVER confess.  I watched a crime show on TLC the other night.  They reenacted a murder of a mother and father by their daughter.  They started out thinking it was the daughters boyfriend who was in this country illegally.  He go deported and they ended up proving it was the daughter who shot and killed them (in a very violent way-blew their heads off more than once).  At trial they called the boyfriend (brought him back from Mexico to testify) and he said he believed she hated them enough to do this.  She was convicted in less than 15 minutes to 2 consecutive life terms in prison.  SHE NEVER did waver from "I didn't do it".

So I don't believe Casey will ever own up to it either which means Cindy and George and Lee will not either.
I think she will confess. She has a specific date and scenerio picked out to do so.
I'm trying to figure out her pattern.
She does things in monthly incriments. Like paying rent. The Casey calendar will allow her to confess on the 15th of January if the conditions are right. As soon as the Ants abandon her she will sing like a canary. Especially George giving up the incest secret. It's the family that won't let go. jmho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
If LP had anything credible to say or "inside info" then I would think LE would be forcing him to keep his mouth shut.  And I also think LP is smart enough to not say anything that would hurt the case against Casey.  Or at least I would hope so.

I take what he says with a grain of salt.

I agree with you Leroy...I like watching (listening) to LP talk...I wish he could elaborate a bit more on some of his theories but he gets cut off by NG constantly...

I don't see how anything he says can hurt this case..it's just chatter on a talk show.. one thing I like about him being part of this whole thing, is that it keeps the story in the media, I think LP has more to do with that than anyone else....

When he organized the Econ River search..poles were taken on this and other web sites and IIRC 95% percent wanted him to do it..now many of those same people are bashing him for it..go figure. IMO, further search of that river was a valid idea, Tim did a side scan of it but the sonar cannot see under the muck..also by Tims own statements..bodies have been found even after the cav. dogs cleared the area.. as it turns out, Caylee's remains were not in the river..or out by the airport. I do think, had Fay not flooded the area, TES most likely would have found the remains as they are the "best of the best" at doing so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 01:06:45 PM
2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::
Yeah, not that there is proof, but that Casey was the instigator. I never thought of that angle before but it makes so much sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 01:08:45 PM


At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.

I cannot fathom LE leaving a little girls remains out in the woods for surveillance purposes.  Or any other purpose for that matter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Didn't they pull out a bag of kids toys from that site? They would have hit it with sonar first so they knew what they were going for. Unfortunately it wasn't related to Casey or Caylee. And yes, I think it was a diversion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 01:08:56 PM
While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
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 ::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 01:09:03 PM
Has anyone seen this video of Cindy? I found it on WS.. Her pupils are HUGE..
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
They are huge, but it could be the lights in her eyes or she is on some strong diet pills. Hmm maybe that's how she has lost all that weight!

She's been on some kind of medication this whole time, you know. That's why she didn't take the lie detector test. opiates, marijuana, and a whole lot of different painkillers will do that to your eyes. I think cocaine and some kinds of speed will do it, too, but they're not the only things.


The only reason Cindy won't take a lie detector test is because she WON"T PASS!  Mind-altering drugs have nothing to do with it.

Lisa

:smt045 :smt045 :smt045


Ok, so her pupils are just big for no reason, because she's NOT on drugs? IMO Cindy's on lortabs or some kind of vicodin, and that makes the pupils big and also means that the lie detector test would have no effect. Initially I thought she had cancer because of the bad hair, skin tone, and the weight loss, but now I think probably she just has some kind of injury that's healing. Maybe when she went to choke Casey, she broke something.

I think Cindy had an injury, a broken nose and two blackened eyes as a result.  I've mentioned my thoughts on this before.  It's not just me thinking this, there are others at another forum who've discussed the possibility, because of an early pic where it does appear that she had two black eyes, and an area on her nose that could have been a bruise.  If Cindy did indeed have her nose broken, she very likely was taking pain pills for awhile.  Could have saved any unused pills for later down the road.  Am trying to remember if pain pills make ones pupils big like that.
 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 01:10:54 PM
HH brought up this morning the angle of money, and maybe JP Chatt's family who are millionaries are financing Casey's defense, if JP is the father of Caylee. I am even wondering about those pictures of Casey that we have only heard about, though saw one of the pics. Maybe there is some connection money wise for paying Casey's defense. The hush, hush of where the money is coming from is very questionable.

I think a major media outlet is financing the defense.    Someone who is planning to make a lot of money off the rights to the story.  Hopefully, we will find out who it is, eventually.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 01:12:51 PM
I am not going down the incest road either   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was just lurking in the NH thread and believe it or not there is a frog over there double-dog daring    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm sitting tight over here for a while  ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:13:33 PM

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 ::MonkeyCool::

No more tea for you, are we cross gendering now? If so, you are the prettiest little man in the cage!!
All is forgiven, it's the drugs man, they are kicking my butt!!

Oops!  Too much sick child!  I need a vacay!

I am a one man woman!!!   ::MonkeyConfused::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 01:13:44 PM
HH brought up this morning the angle of money, and maybe JP Chatt's family who are millionaries are financing Casey's defense, if JP is the father of Caylee. I am even wondering about those pictures of Casey that we have only heard about, though saw one of the pics. Maybe there is some connection money wise for paying Casey's defense. The hush, hush of where the money is coming from is very questionable.

I think a major media outlet is financing the defense.    Someone who is planning to make a lot of money off the rights to the story.  Hopefully, we will find out who it is, eventually.

Sassy - I think you are spot on with that theory.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 01:15:31 PM
I am not going down the incest road either   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was just lurking in the NH thread and believe it or not there is a frog over there double-dog daring    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm sitting tight over here for a while  ::MonkeyWink:: 

hahahaha...that frog ROCKS!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP!  ::MonkeyTongue::

While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought they were very interesting observations, particularly the bucket list and the idea that the pet graveyard might actually contain serial victims not just beloved pets that had died.

But it sounded like an attempt to let George off the hook for sexually abusing his daughter, because it's Casey, after all, and so it must actually have been her fault.

Like Casey had to be the aggressor simply because she's "more evil" than George. But actually the typical profile for women who kill their kids, is that they are sexually abused by their fathers, and therefore when a boyfriend dumps them it's the end of the world. Having been treated as things by their own parents, these women of course don't see their own children as anything more than things. And since everything in the world revolved around Daddy's satisfaction, their adult world revolves around being accepted by some man they're obsessed with.

It would fit quite well if George did have sex with Casey starting when she was 17, because she lost interest in school around that time. But given Cindy's behavior, it's more likely Lee. I think she'd have thrown Casey out if she knew the father was George, but when Casey came to her and said Lee had been trying to molest her, Cindy for ONCE didn't believe her. (which means she probably was telling the truth for once.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 01:17:43 PM

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 ::MonkeyCool::

No more tea for you, are we cross gendering now? If so, you are the prettiest little man in the cage!!
All is forgiven, it's the drugs man, they are kicking my butt!!

Oops!  Too much sick child!  I need a vacay!

I am a one man woman!!!   ::MonkeyConfused::

I totally missed this... (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/6.gif)

You know I'm not laughing at your sick little one..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Just when I think we have thought of everything about Casey and this case, along comes something new and interesting.  I found JJays post very interesting to read.  My comments and questions are in parentheses.
JJay posted this below:

Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill. (Have we established that Casey was a serial killer?  Not really, but I do think she planned to off her parents.  At least, I did until I read this post, and now I think she may have wanted Cindy dead and planned to handle George -- no pun intended -- some other way.  He is by far the dumber of the two parents.)
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore. (I am not sure he used to babysit for her, but he may have.  It is also possible he and Casey agreed that he would babysit and not tell Cindy.)
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face. (This actually makes sense to me.  A psychologist would pick up on these things quickly.  Casey does cry much more easily when she sees George.  And she told Amy the parents were divorcing.  Was that as much a hope or wish as anything else?)
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him. (I think she sees all authority figures as a threat to her freedom.  Makes sense to me.)
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content. (This is most interesting of all.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  She got rid of Caylee and felt extremely free and set about doing all the things she wanted to do.  I wonder if Cindy disapproved of tattoos.  She would party until she got caught, however long that was.)
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death. (There is no doubt a confession would make her more sympathetic, especially if she claimed she snapped because of abuse, etc.  But everyone wants to know what happened and when.  Would her confession be believable or would she embellish it?  That I do not know.  One other thing.  If she killed Caylee at least in part to spite or punish Cindy, she will want to punish her further.  Perhaps the confession will include, "I did it because of Mom.")

8. LP is sexy. (No comment.)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:19:40 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!

At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.

???????? I never heard Tim go on and on FOR MONTHS ABOUT MONEY????? He did mention it on NG a couple of times because he was pissed at Casey ......he was out there spending sh!tloads of money he didn't have, when if she really handed off her kid or knew where she was, others who really wanted their child found would be upset that he spent more time in Orlando and not on the other cases. No good deed goes unpunished, and I damn well can blame LP for assuming Tim was all about money, LP has the corner on that market. Secondly, do you really believe that LE knew where Caylee was, left her their to do surveillance and would risk losing all the evidence that soft tissue could provide or any anthropological studies~there is not a chance in hell they LE would let that baby lay there one extra day to rot more, my God that is absurd beyond belief.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 01:20:34 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 



 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::

Yikes, think i'll go check back in on that double-dog daring frog!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 01:28:32 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:29:58 PM
I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.
No, just sayin that George wasn't the evil aggressor. Sure he's guilty of participating. Maybe Casey drugged him. Who knows. I just always thought that incest was man against woman, and never considered that Casey could have been woman against man in this instance.

Usually the aggressor is the older party. I'm curious why your friend thought Casey would be the aggressor here. MOST of the time it is the man initiating it, and always it's the younger party submitting to the older because they think they have to. It rolls downhill.

When women initiate incest, it's usually consensual incest between same-age siblings, cousins, or it's child abuse. Sorry, but daughters don't seduce fathers. You'll find loads of porn that says they do, but very little in the way of actual statistics.

And there is no drug in the world that would make a man unable to recognize his own daughter but somehow still able to perform in bed. I don't think that will fly as an excuse. If he screwed his own daughter, he's simply not a good father, and definitely Caylee should not have grown up with him around. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:30:56 PM
::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 01:31:14 PM
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While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

1.) My situation was reverse.. my dad WANTED me to smoke out with him. I never did, because it just made me uncomfortable, even thinking about it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  It had nothing to do with sex. It's just weird!!

2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::

uhh.. couldnt let the pot conversation get by me. haha. I have been smoking legally for three years now, but previous to receiving my card i had been smoking since about the age of 13. Everybody knows, including my 80 year old grandma. Who walked outside on Christmas and discovered me smoking my kind of cig. and she begged me for a hit. I had to digress, I COULDNT DO IT. But it sure would have been a funny story to tell my kids.
BTW IMHO- i think anyone who has doubts about George Anthony needs to go back and read his statements to LE, he really dislikes his daughter, and im used to seeing abusive fathers be over protective, especially during and interrogation. IDK as an ex cop i dont think raping his daughter would be his thing. He was way to honest of his feelings for her, read it again. I swear you'll see it! ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 01:31:27 PM
Hi guys!  :2waver:

I just watched the video of Cindy, where there's been discussion of her pupils. At first, I thought that it may be nothing. It appears to be dark out and because Cindy was speakig and looking directly at the interviewer instead of the camera and light source, I just attributed it to that. Our pupils get larger to let in maximum light in the dark.

However, I noticed later in the interview, when she swung her head toward the camera and light source, that her pupils remained the same. No question in my mind, she's taking medication that would cause that. Pupils react quickly to change when the amount of light changes. Cindy's didn't.

She doesn't appear to be slurring words beyond anything unusual or presenting with an unusual affect, so I doubt it's something super depressive. I don't know what it is or where she got it, but I'd bet a lot of money a blood test would show some kind of mood altering drug.

Good observation CBB!!   :smt023




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SweetMorgan on January 02, 2009, 01:32:03 PM
Just when I think we have thought of everything about Casey and this case, along comes something new and interesting.  I found JJays post very interesting to read.  My comments and questions are in parentheses.
JJay posted this below:

Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill. (Have we established that Casey was a serial killer?  Not really, but I do think she planned to off her parents.  At least, I did until I read this post, and now I think she may have wanted Cindy dead and planned to handle George -- no pun intended -- some other way.  He is by far the dumber of the two parents.)
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore. (I am not sure he used to babysit for her, but he may have.  It is also possible he and Casey agreed that he would babysit and not tell Cindy.)
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face. (This actually makes sense to me.  A psychologist would pick up on these things quickly.  Casey does cry much more easily when she sees George.  And she told Amy the parents were divorcing.  Was that as much a hope or wish as anything else?)
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him. (I think she sees all authority figures as a threat to her freedom.  Makes sense to me.)
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content. (This is most interesting of all.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  She got rid of Caylee and felt extremely free and set about doing all the things she wanted to do.  I wonder if Cindy disapproved of tattoos.  She would party until she got caught, however long that was.)
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death. (There is no doubt a confession would make her more sympathetic, especially if she claimed she snapped because of abuse, etc.  But everyone wants to know what happened and when.  Would her confession be believable or would she embellish it?  That I do not know.  One other thing.  If she killed Caylee at least in part to spite or punish Cindy, she will want to punish her further.  Perhaps the confession will include, "I did it because of Mom.")

8. LP is sexy. (No comment.)



Hi Hudsunn, Could I make a request that instead of using parenthises that you use, maybe, a different color.  I so very much enjoy your posts but being older I was having a little hard time with the same color.  You know, treat me like a child!  Thank you and please keep posting, I love and agree with your theories.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 01:36:02 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 01:36:09 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:36:23 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 


Ok.. this kind of behavior from Casey would not surprise me in the least.. however, why the hell would she share this with Cindy? Lee, maybe.. but would he tell his parents?  ::MonkeyEek::  I'm curious how Rick would know this, if it's even true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 01:36:36 PM
::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

I think this is a very good assessment of the incest stories.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:39:45 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!

At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.

???????? I never heard Tim go on and on FOR MONTHS ABOUT MONEY????? He did mention it on NG a couple of times because he was pissed at Casey ......he was out there spending sh!tloads of money he didn't have, when if she really handed off her kid or knew where she was, others who really wanted their child found would be upset that he spent more time in Orlando and not on the other cases. No good deed goes unpunished, and I damn well can blame LP for assuming Tim was all about money, LP has the corner on that market. Secondly, do you really believe that LE knew where Caylee was, left her their to do surveillance and would risk losing all the evidence that soft tissue could provide or any anthropological studies~there is not a chance in hell they LE would let that baby lay there one extra day to rot more, my God that is absurd beyond belief.

You're right--that idea about LE leaving the body there was absurd. I thought maybe they could done those studies on the spot, right where she was, but it's very unlikely. This case is messing with my head.

Re: Tim & LP--I had never heard of him before this case. It seemed to me that he was always calling off searches because of money, and always talking about how much he was losing, etc... Understand I only saw him in this case, and not in any of the hundreds of other cases he's been involved in.

NONE of that fight made any sense to me, because how in the hell could Tim emerge from the river with the skull, if the skull wasn't there in the river? I've always wondered why LP was so certain it was in the river, and Tim was so certain it wasn't, and I think there's way more to that conversation than either man is saying. JMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 01:40:03 PM
Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

Makes sense to me too HH!  And we do know that there is that 'anonymous donor', who may just have a never-ending stack of money available.  We've wondered who would donate such an amount, and why??  We've wondered where the heck the $$ is coming from to pay for such a dream team defense.  This could certainly answer questions for both of those areas.  Hmmmm...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 01:40:34 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 


Ok.. this kind of behavior from Casey would not surprise me in the least.. however, why the hell would she share this with Cindy? Lee, maybe.. but would he tell his parents?  ::MonkeyEek::  I'm curious how Rick would know this, if it's even true.

When I first heard about Rick saying this, I assumed that Rick was just sort of "putting two and two together" about KC's pregnancy. Her due date was in September (but Caylee came early, in August), and I thought Rick was saying that basically KC must have pulled a train back in December (ie, going back 9 months) because she apparently didn't know who the father was. However, I didn't realize he actually said December ***2005*** (and Caylee was born in 2005, so that would make my theory wrong). Is that what he said, 2005?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
Usually the aggressor is the older party. I'm curious why your friend thought Casey would be the aggressor here. MOST of the time it is the man initiating it, and always it's the younger party submitting to the older because they think they have to. It rolls downhill.
Usually, right? I agree. But there's something unusual in this case. Because if it is the abused daughter usually they will tell everyone once they are safe. Maybe that time hasn't come yet, she seems to be getting cozy in jail and making it a safe place, IIRC she even said she's safer there on NG last night. Thus a confession coming soon.

But if she was the aggressor George is going to try to divert the attention elsewhere. Ultimately he will be busted as the perv but men are raped too. That was my only point in all that. I forget that men get raped. Sure it's usually male on male.

As for the "train" thing. ewww. She was sexually active and maybe wanted to lessen the odds of getting pregnant with her dad if she had sex with someone else right away with younger faster sperm swimmers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
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While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.


2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::



What I was trying to refer to was that I've never heard anything that substantiates KC and GA having any type of physical relationship whether or not it was seduction or molesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:42:58 PM

You're right--that idea about LE leaving the body there was absurd. I thought maybe they could done those studies on the spot, right where she was, but it's very unlikely. This case is messing with my head.

Re: Tim & LP--I had never heard of him before this case. It seemed to me that he was always calling off searches because of money, and always talking about how much he was losing, etc... Understand I only saw him in this case, and not in any of the hundreds of other cases he's been involved in.

NONE of that fight made any sense to me, because how in the hell could Tim emerge from the river with the skull, if the skull wasn't there in the river? I've always wondered why LP was so certain it was in the river, and Tim was so certain it wasn't, and I think there's way more to that conversation than either man is saying. JMO.


ITA.  I still can't get over him saying that on national TV.  Just too much!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

I don't think incest excuses her killing Caylee. But it's the classic profile for "mothers who kill," and so probably that's part of who she is. Doesn't change the fact that she is a sociopath. Maybe she was trying to get something from Jesse by telling him that, but she's the one who left him, not the other way around. The other time she said it, for sure it was to get sympathy. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:44:33 PM
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While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.


2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::



What I was trying to refer to was that I've never heard anything that substantiates KC and GA having any type of physical relationship whether or not it was seduction or molesting.

You're right, Golden Oldie. It's all sheer speculation. Sorry if I've talked about it like it's fact when it's not really.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 01:44:42 PM
If LP had anything credible to say or "inside info" then I would think LE would be forcing him to keep his mouth shut.  And I also think LP is smart enough to not say anything that would hurt the case against Casey.  Or at least I would hope so.

I take what he says with a grain of salt.

I agree with you Leroy...I like watching (listening) to LP talk...I wish he could elaborate a bit more on some of his theories but he gets cut off by NG constantly...

I don't see how anything he says can hurt this case..it's just chatter on a talk show.. one thing I like about him being part of this whole thing, is that it keeps the story in the media, I think LP has more to do with that than anyone else....

When he organized the Econ River search..poles were taken on this and other web sites and IIRC 95% percent wanted him to do it..now many of those same people are bashing him for it..go figure. IMO, further search of that river was a valid idea, Tim did a side scan of it but the sonar cannot see under the muck..also by Tims own statements..bodies have been found even after the cav. dogs cleared the area.. as it turns out, Caylee's remains were not in the river..or out by the airport. I do think, had Fay not flooded the area, TES most likely would have found the remains as they are the "best of the best" at doing so.



Thank you, you little hottie, for clearing all of this up.  I've found some of today's comments/speculations, very frustrating.     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
Deep inside, I feel that KC will confess...probably just before this case is ready to go to trial.  I think that may be the reason JB has not asked to have the trial moved.  Maybe she's holding out a bit longer in an attempt to take "mommy dearest" down with her.  I can see KC confessing in order to get a lighter sentence, based on the fact that she was tormented by CA.  I don't think KC will be willing to go down alone and take all of the responsibility for this one.  Who knows???  Maybe she is waiting to see if CA will roll over and rat her out if an immunity deal is offered. If that happens, what would prevent KC from trying to frame CA for Caylee's murder?  She could say that CA was the one doing all of these computer searches in an attempt to frame KC.  I just believe that KC will try to retaliate against anyone that has not cooperated with her. This could all be part of the reason she's had no visits from the Ants.....maybe she has already been telling JB to look at CA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

casey never mentioned anything about GA abusing her ....only lee...and IMO that is a LIE...just another in her long list.....you are so right when you say she never thought that would get out...she is evil and diabolical and so is her attorney. I listened to NG lst night....I swear if I had to detectives coming down on me there is no way I could have been so unemotional...I know I would have been in tears. Even caught and faced with her lies...she was like...SO????  Hell her parents have confronted her with lies and theft in the past and obviously given her pass after pass...so in her mind why shouldn't the police??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 02, 2009, 01:48:09 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.  
This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.
Does anyone know where I can read that Rick said Casey pulled a train with some guys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 01:50:00 PM
I don't think incest excuses her killing Caylee. But it's the classic profile for "mothers who kill," and so probably that's part of who she is. Doesn't change the fact that she is a sociopath. Maybe she was trying to get something from Jesse by telling him that, but she's the one who left him, not the other way around. The other time she said it, for sure it was to get sympathy. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
It will matter to decide premeditation and if a jury would feel sympathy for Casey's conditions. Incest would immediately move Casey from the Villian to the Damsel with the jury being the rescurer and the sentence would be lighter. I wouldn't want to see that.

Maybe that's why LE is trying to get charges against the Ants so they can't be the Damsels in this case either.

All very interesting. Thank you all for great conversation!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:50:27 PM
I don't blame any of the men/boys for what they might have said to KC regarding Caylee being at their apartments or not wanting female children. They are young and stupid and know not what they say. They are just being young men, and trying to sound cool or get a rise out of KC. We forget that KC was looking up all those things like neck breaking, chloroform and household weapons months before dating Tony. She had getting rid of Caylee on her mind long before that relationship started. IMO things were getting too claustrophobic for her regarding Caylee's care. She wanted to be free of the responsibility yet retain some control over Cindy. What to do? I think the huge fight between Cindy and KC just happened to be the straw that broke the camels back. Maybe KC had a different scenario planned for Caylee's demise, but Cindy pushed the wrong button and KC sprung into action.

It's like they say to practice what you would do in a threatening situation, go over and over in your mind what you will do if someone tries to attack you. You play it out and test each scenario to see what works best for you. She had been thinking about killing Caylee and when the time came, and she was backed into a corner, no problem, done and over. On to Blockbusters!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 01:50:58 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 


Ok.. this kind of behavior from Casey would not surprise me in the least.. however, why the hell would she share this with Cindy? Lee, maybe.. but would he tell his parents?  ::MonkeyEek::  I'm curious how Rick would know this, if it's even true.

hmmm.  Maybe Lee told Rick, himself!    Maybe Rick saw some photos???

Another act that these kids are doing (I have girls KC's age and they tell me what's going on with that age group), is a girl will do two guys at once.  (one in the front and one in the rear).   They have some special name for it, but I can't recall what it is called.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:51:07 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::



She supposedly went to Universal that day, also, to look for Caylee. But "missing' isn't "dead." She thought Casey was leaving Caylee with friends, and probably hoped that by asking "who now is looking out for the little angel?" she'd get an e-mail from one of the friends, and perhaps be able to go see Caylee that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
I don't remember Rick saying pulling a train comment, I would like to see the comment also. I didn't even know what that meant until somebody said a few pages back. I guess I'm more naive than I thought. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif)

Well said !  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 01:53:42 PM
Can anyone else see KC trying to blame the computer searches on CA?  She could say that CA was going to try and get custody of Caylee and  did all of this to set her up.  I just can't see KC allowing herself to be the only one that pays for this crime.  LP has stated that he thinks LA was the one responsible for searching the sex sites, looking for escort services in cities when he traveled.  So, if LA admits he did part of the searches, that will help the defense prove others had access to the computer.  NG seems to think those computer searches and the chloroform in the car will be the main things that will tie this case up for the prosecution but I can see defense poking lots of holes, if they can prove others in the house had access to this computer on the dates searches were made. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:54:54 PM

hmmm.  Maybe Lee told Rick, himself!    Maybe Rick saw some photos???

Another act that these kids are doing (I have girls KC's age and they tell me what's going on with that age group), is a girl will do two guys at once.  (one in the front and one in the rear).   They have some special name for it, but I can't recall what it is called.

Death Penalty.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:56:08 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.

Could be true, but why wouldn't Casey - or hell, why wouldn't CINDY- try to get money from these people for child support?  If we can find this info out via a Google search, why wouldn't Casey have known full well what family she was screwing herself into?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:56:14 PM
Deep inside, I feel that KC will confess...probably just before this case is ready to go to trial.  I think that may be the reason JB has not asked to have the trial moved.  Maybe she's holding out a bit longer in an attempt to take "mommy dearest" down with her.  I can see KC confessing in order to get a lighter sentence, based on the fact that she was tormented by CA.  I don't think KC will be willing to go down alone and take all of the responsibility for this one.  Who knows???  Maybe she is waiting to see if CA will roll over and rat her out if an immunity deal is offered. If that happens, what would prevent KC from trying to frame CA for Caylee's murder?  She could say that CA was the one doing all of these computer searches in an attempt to frame KC.  I just believe that KC will try to retaliate against anyone that has not cooperated with her. This could all be part of the reason she's had no visits from the Ants.....maybe she has already been telling JB to look at CA.

Why would she confess? What would that get her?

Diane Downing never did confess. Susan Smith confessed, but she wasn't a sociopath. If CA could have been framed for the murder, IMO Casey would already have framed her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 01:56:35 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


Well, he really asked people to donate to TES THRU his and Rob Dick's site which you had to pay to be a member, however when you hit the donate to TES button, it redirected you to not the TES account, but an LP and Rob Dick account, and then they were going to "forward the money". I went to this site many times until they closed it and was disgusted by the venom towards Tim......here is just a tidbit:


It comes with great sadness that I will be closing the forum and refunding all money received. This comes from being exposed to groups like Kidfinders and Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch. I am shocked and amazed by the actions of these groups. To even compare KFN and TES is reprehensible IMO
I am not one to bad mouth someone or give speculation as to one’s motives; however, I will not stand by and have Leonard or myself attacked by people that have no business throwing rocks when they themselves live in glass houses. I will tell it like it is because I was there and I am an eyewitness to the events.

For the last few months Leonard has been on Nancy Grace promoting TES and asking people to donate to his cause as well as offer whatever assistance to the search effort of TES. The publicity of this case through the efforts of Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla by keeping it in the headlines has generated the participation and funds for TES that Tim himself told us making this the largest search in the history of TES.

Leonard Padilla has covered all expenses of our group out of his own pocket for both trips from California to Florida including the funding for the original bail bond of $500,000.

I am repulsed by the actions of Tim Miller and the fact that he is biting the hand that feeds him; I am not sure how he thought he had received so many donations and response to his search. He is upset because people stopped Leonard or I to take some photos, I am not sure as to what he wanted; us to shun people away or act stuck up, maybe it gave the volunteers something to do as they stood around waiting to start searching while Tim set up his command center and trying to get organized during the morning after the search was already to begin, not sure what he was doing for the four days he was here before the search was to start but I said I wouldn’t get into that.

It has been reported on The Daily BS (I couldn’t have named that site any better…lol) “membership at his forum site, profiting $298,500 as of Monday” now I am not sure what kind of calculator these guys are using but, anyone can go to the forum not even being a member, click on the Statistics tab and see that there are 169 members. Now multiply 169 x $9.95 – the $ 0.59 (that Paypal charges) = $1,581.84 as well as an additional $270.00 in donations.

I have the money for Tim Millers group however where is he, Tim stated on National TV that he was coming into town to conduct the largest search in the nation to find Caylee and that he would not leave town until he found her. Now I am not going to go into the fact that he was here for three days of searching and leaves town when he receives $30,000 to go up and search in North Carolina for another family. Is Tim chasing after lost individuals or is he chasing the money but I will stop here as I said I would not sink to his level. I also realize that helping other families is important but he should not have a problem with us continuing to search.

I will not run from these lies and false statements however, maybe people are right; it is not our job to raise money for this organizations and I will not contribute another ounce of energy to bring money to Tim Miller. I am refunding every dollar to the people that have donated for this effort. I will not be associated with handing Tim one cent that I helped raise for his efforts, if anyone wants to donate to TES please donate direct to them, for I will not be involved. I apologize for not furthering the forum but will concentrate on doing what is our job: reading through the lies and solving the mystery. We are thinkers and our job is to get to the bottom of the lies involved in this crime and the focus should have always been for…. BRINGING CAYLEE HOME.


The same goes for Kidfinders. I know for a fact that this organization as attempted to stop both searches of the water at J. Blanchard Park. Why is this? Why would anyone not want the search for Caylee to continue until she is found? Are we onto something? The only thing that comes to mind is that if Caylee is found, Kidfinders does not receive any more donations. So, who is really exploiting the family?

Thanks for all the kind words on the forum and all the smart thinkers out there. We will be left to continue the search.


 
 On December 23, 2008 at 7:13 am Ronda Said:
Rob, for you to act like you and Leonard are victims is pathetic. We all know why you gave that money back and it had nothing to do with Tim Miller. You gave it back because you and Lenny were busted and for you to attack a man that has dedicated his life searching for missing people shows just how pathetic you are.
Tim was called in to help search for Caylee, while you, Leonard and the rest of Lenny’s traveling circus, involved yourselves into a case that thanks to Clown Lenny has gone on longer than it should. If he had kept his hat and toothpick in CA, this case might have been closed a long time ago.

With regards to you comment about Tim leaving when he got $30,000 to go to North Carolina for another family, proves that Tim is the one that is trusted and called upon when a family has lost a loved one. Did the family from North Carolina contact you and Lenny? You see Rob, Caylee wasn’t the only missing child/person and unlike you and Lenny, Tim goes where he is called upon.

Who was asked to take a Lie Detector Test Rob? Who was wanting to contact Don King to have his Lie Detector done on PPV? If it was all about finding Caylee for you and Lenny, answer me this, when Lenny first got here, he stated that he was going to give the “kidnappers” one week to return Caylee before he started searching for her? If it was all about finding Caylee, wouldn’t you think Lenny would want to begin his search as soon as possible? Why would he wait a week?

In the interviews with Lenny and Tim, who was the one of the two that mentioned that $250,000 reward over and over again? I really don’t think that Tim needed Lenny begging for donations on his behalf. I mean lets check the records to see how much Tim and his group has raised for their searches. I don’t think Lenny was around begging for donations for any of those searches, how the hell did Tim manage before Lenny came along to raise money for Tim’s company?

Here’s an idea for Lenny to raise money, Lenny can call Don King and schedule a PPV event and at this PPV Lenny can bring in his accounting for the money he raised for the search and how it was distributed and Tim can bring in his books and we’ll compare the two, to see who was really the one dedicated to finding Caylee. Sound good to you?

Your comment about Tim being upset because it was you and Lenny that everyone wanted pictures of and Tim was jealous, well lets look at this shall we? How many times did you and Lenny appear on tv/radio or any other media outlet compared to Tim.

With regards to Nancy Grace and the way she kept putting that idiot on her show and referring to him as if he was some kind of Anthony Family expert, it is going to cost her.quite a few loyal fans. As a former loyal fan/viewer of her show, I will no longer be tuning in and neither will alot of her other viewers.

She has lost the trust of her viewers, by her putting this idiot on her show for ratings or whatever reason she has, she makes it clear that it is all about the ratings and without viewers you have not rating, so I maybe Lenny can get her a spot on his show.

You should be ashamed of yourself and you need to quit telling lies.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid. I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron. You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool. Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot. You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible. The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid.

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance. I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe. You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Sassycat... I am sitting here laughing, I have two girls in the age group of Casey, they know me and there is no way they would be telling me about sexual positions that this age group is all doing. I guess my strict Catholic upbringing is showing, I don't know what I would say if this conversation came up. I didn't even know what that train comment was about.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
Listen to the last 911 tape from the house, the one where Cindy tells about the smell in the car, and she becomes hysterical.  She then is asked to get Casey on the phone, and then listen to Cindyin the background.  Unfortunately, when these tapes were transcribed, the transcriptionist did not transcribe that part, but you can hear it.
Good point. Histronic Personality Disorder. She's also got Dellusional Disorder. These can lead to abusive behavior to the children. Those behaviors originate with fear and are passed on from generation to generation. In many cases of child abuse the youngest are murdered.

Good morning, monkeys and guests!   :sunny:

Cindy certainly seems to have a list personality disorders tucked up under her belt.  And yes, many of the behaviors do get passed on to future generations, in one form or another.  Casey seems to be a mini Cindy, only far worse. 

Interesting to me is observing how these things happen in the different generations.  And while none of it excuses Casey for what she most likely has done to Caylee, it does help to explain how things ended up so very badly in that family, with Caylee taking the brunt of it all. 

What I'd like to know is how Cindy got the way she is!  We haven't heard much about her parents, their behaviors and relationship.  Oddly enough, of the three women (mother, grandmother, g.grandmother) Cindy's mother (from what little we do know) seems to be the most emotionally healthy.  Yet it's true that first impressions can be deceiving.  It very likely could be that Cindy may be a mini Shirley. 

Would love for Rick to share more about the family and its inner-workings.  Only to help in understanding Cindy, which in turn, helps in understanding Casey.  If anything, am betting the defense will go for the emotionally-abused angle, PTSD, NPD and whatever other initials that Casey most likely has. 

And again I say, none of this 'excuses' Casey.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/shaking_head_no.gif) 

So Baez can try, but doubt that it will fly.  Cuz I have a whole slew of initials, as many do, based on the experiences of our childhood, etc.  None of us (to our knowledge) have handled things with our children in such cold, calculating, cruel ways.  A greater majority (even while perhaps handing down personality disorders to some degree), manage to somehow 'go the opposite way' in dealing with our children.  Makes for fascinating casework study, if you're into that kind of thing.   ::MonkeyWink::
   

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.  
This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.
Does anyone know where I can read that Rick said Casey pulled a train with some guys?

He said she had sex with a whole lot of guys at a party in December, in one of his posts here.  People poo-pooed the idea that Caylee could have been conceived at that party because Caylee was born in August. I will try to find you the post by tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:01:13 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.

Could be true, but why wouldn't Casey - or hell, why wouldn't CINDY- try to get money from these people for child support?  If we can find this info out via a Google search, why wouldn't Casey have known full well what family she was screwing herself into?  ::MonkeyEek::
I think Casey did know, but Like I said last night I believe JP had a girl that he had been dating that his family approved of and was with her even back then and the Casey thing was a one night stand and he didnt want anything to do with her after that, and I doubt Casey told cindy......I wouldnt doubt that he could have been giving Casey money at times, and thats the reason she wasnt working, and also I think Casey was looking up the kisnapping thing to mget her more money and a way out of Cindy's house, Like plan a kidnapping and get the money (ransom) from JP family only something went wrong and Caylee died!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 02:01:52 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


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Well said !  ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks!    :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:03:45 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 

True. some men are looking to settle down at that age. My husband did. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shan1628 on January 02, 2009, 02:03:48 PM
::MonkeyWink:: there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.


ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

casey never mentioned anything about GA abusing her ....only lee...and IMO that is a LIE...just another in her long list.....you are so right when you say she never thought that would get out...she is evil and diabolical and so is her attorney. I listened to NG lst night....I swear if I had to detectives coming down on me there is no way I could have been so unemotional...I know I would have been in tears. Even caught and faced with her lies...she was like...SO????  Hell her parents have confronted her with lies and theft in the past and obviously given her pass after pass...so in her mind why shouldn't the police??? 

For what it's worth, lol, I totally agree with what you are saying...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:04:29 PM
HH...I would really like to know where Casey got Baez's name, I don't really believe her lame explanation. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 02:05:28 PM
Sassycat... I am sitting here laughing, I have two girls in the age group of Casey, they know me and there is no way they would be telling me about sexual positions that this age group is all doing. I guess my strict Catholic upbringing is showing, I don't know what I would say if this conversation came up. I didn't even know what that train comment was about.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL.   My girls tell me everything!    I was a single parent for a long time - and was lucky that my 3 girls were very open with me about what was going on "in the real world".    All three went to private Catholic schools - and I'm lucky that they all had good heads on their shoulders and didn't do half the stuff their friends were doing!!!!     ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 02:06:10 PM

hmmm.  Maybe Lee told Rick, himself!    Maybe Rick saw some photos???

Another act that these kids are doing (I have girls KC's age and they tell me what's going on with that age group), is a girl will do two guys at once.  (one in the front and one in the rear).   They have some special name for it, but I can't recall what it is called.

Death Penalty.   ::MonkeyWink::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 02:06:21 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


Well, he really asked people to donate to TES THRU his and Rob Dick's site which you had to pay to be a member, however when you hit the donate to TES button, it redirected you to not the TES account, but an LP and Rob Dick account, and then they were going to "forward the money". I went to this site many times until they closed it and was disgusted by the venom towards Tim......here is just a tidbit:


It comes with great sadness that I will be closing the forum and refunding all money received. This comes from being exposed to groups like Kidfinders and Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch. I am shocked and amazed by the actions of these groups. To even compare KFN and TES is reprehensible IMO
I am not one to bad mouth someone or give speculation as to one’s motives; however, I will not stand by and have Leonard or myself attacked by people that have no business throwing rocks when they themselves live in glass houses. I will tell it like it is because I was there and I am an eyewitness to the events.

For the last few months Leonard has been on Nancy Grace promoting TES and asking people to donate to his cause as well as offer whatever assistance to the search effort of TES. The publicity of this case through the efforts of Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla by keeping it in the headlines has generated the participation and funds for TES that Tim himself told us making this the largest search in the history of TES.

Leonard Padilla has covered all expenses of our group out of his own pocket for both trips from California to Florida including the funding for the original bail bond of $500,000.

I am repulsed by the actions of Tim Miller and the fact that he is biting the hand that feeds him; I am not sure how he thought he had received so many donations and response to his search. He is upset because people stopped Leonard or I to take some photos, I am not sure as to what he wanted; us to shun people away or act stuck up, maybe it gave the volunteers something to do as they stood around waiting to start searching while Tim set up his command center and trying to get organized during the morning after the search was already to begin, not sure what he was doing for the four days he was here before the search was to start but I said I wouldn’t get into that.

It has been reported on The Daily BS (I couldn’t have named that site any better…lol) “membership at his forum site, profiting $298,500 as of Monday” now I am not sure what kind of calculator these guys are using but, anyone can go to the forum not even being a member, click on the Statistics tab and see that there are 169 members. Now multiply 169 x $9.95 – the $ 0.59 (that Paypal charges) = $1,581.84 as well as an additional $270.00 in donations.

I have the money for Tim Millers group however where is he, Tim stated on National TV that he was coming into town to conduct the largest search in the nation to find Caylee and that he would not leave town until he found her. Now I am not going to go into the fact that he was here for three days of searching and leaves town when he receives $30,000 to go up and search in North Carolina for another family. Is Tim chasing after lost individuals or is he chasing the money but I will stop here as I said I would not sink to his level. I also realize that helping other families is important but he should not have a problem with us continuing to search.

I will not run from these lies and false statements however, maybe people are right; it is not our job to raise money for this organizations and I will not contribute another ounce of energy to bring money to Tim Miller. I am refunding every dollar to the people that have donated for this effort. I will not be associated with handing Tim one cent that I helped raise for his efforts, if anyone wants to donate to TES please donate direct to them, for I will not be involved. I apologize for not furthering the forum but will concentrate on doing what is our job: reading through the lies and solving the mystery. We are thinkers and our job is to get to the bottom of the lies involved in this crime and the focus should have always been for…. BRINGING CAYLEE HOME.


The same goes for Kidfinders. I know for a fact that this organization as attempted to stop both searches of the water at J. Blanchard Park. Why is this? Why would anyone not want the search for Caylee to continue until she is found? Are we onto something? The only thing that comes to mind is that if Caylee is found, Kidfinders does not receive any more donations. So, who is really exploiting the family?

Thanks for all the kind words on the forum and all the smart thinkers out there. We will be left to continue the search.


 
 On December 23, 2008 at 7:13 am Ronda Said:
Rob, for you to act like you and Leonard are victims is pathetic. We all know why you gave that money back and it had nothing to do with Tim Miller. You gave it back because you and Lenny were busted and for you to attack a man that has dedicated his life searching for missing people shows just how pathetic you are.
Tim was called in to help search for Caylee, while you, Leonard and the rest of Lenny’s traveling circus, involved yourselves into a case that thanks to Clown Lenny has gone on longer than it should. If he had kept his hat and toothpick in CA, this case might have been closed a long time ago.

With regards to you comment about Tim leaving when he got $30,000 to go to North Carolina for another family, proves that Tim is the one that is trusted and called upon when a family has lost a loved one. Did the family from North Carolina contact you and Lenny? You see Rob, Caylee wasn’t the only missing child/person and unlike you and Lenny, Tim goes where he is called upon.

Who was asked to take a Lie Detector Test Rob? Who was wanting to contact Don King to have his Lie Detector done on PPV? If it was all about finding Caylee for you and Lenny, answer me this, when Lenny first got here, he stated that he was going to give the “kidnappers” one week to return Caylee before he started searching for her? If it was all about finding Caylee, wouldn’t you think Lenny would want to begin his search as soon as possible? Why would he wait a week?

In the interviews with Lenny and Tim, who was the one of the two that mentioned that $250,000 reward over and over again? I really don’t think that Tim needed Lenny begging for donations on his behalf. I mean lets check the records to see how much Tim and his group has raised for their searches. I don’t think Lenny was around begging for donations for any of those searches, how the hell did Tim manage before Lenny came along to raise money for Tim’s company?

Here’s an idea for Lenny to raise money, Lenny can call Don King and schedule a PPV event and at this PPV Lenny can bring in his accounting for the money he raised for the search and how it was distributed and Tim can bring in his books and we’ll compare the two, to see who was really the one dedicated to finding Caylee. Sound good to you?

Your comment about Tim being upset because it was you and Lenny that everyone wanted pictures of and Tim was jealous, well lets look at this shall we? How many times did you and Lenny appear on tv/radio or any other media outlet compared to Tim.

With regards to Nancy Grace and the way she kept putting that idiot on her show and referring to him as if he was some kind of Anthony Family expert, it is going to cost her.quite a few loyal fans. As a former loyal fan/viewer of her show, I will no longer be tuning in and neither will alot of her other viewers.

She has lost the trust of her viewers, by her putting this idiot on her show for ratings or whatever reason she has, she makes it clear that it is all about the ratings and without viewers you have not rating, so I maybe Lenny can get her a spot on his show.

You should be ashamed of yourself and you need to quit telling lies.
 

IM :smt058 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:06:38 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??

She wrote "Mrs. Tony Lazarro" over and over again, mostly misspelled.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shan1628 on January 02, 2009, 02:08:51 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid. I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron. You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool. Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot. You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible. The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid.

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance. I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe. You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???


I have read those emails before and yes, Rick does "flat out" tell her EVERYTHING that CA does NOT want to hear. 

The clothes he is referencing are the clothes that CA washed of KC's that were found in the car.  I thought i heard that the pants were gray dress pants with a pinstrip on them??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 02:09:36 PM
On July 3rd, CA wrote that "My Caylee is Missing", in her Myspace page.  Come on.... she knew something... oh and I am sure she recanted that too, just like the 911 call.  ::MonkeyConfused::



She supposedly went to Universal that day, also, to look for Caylee. But "missing' isn't "dead." She thought Casey was leaving Caylee with friends, and probably hoped that by asking "who now is looking out for the little angel?" she'd get an e-mail from one of the friends, and perhaps be able to go see Caylee that way.

On July 3rd, CA wrote that blog, then on July 7th, KC wrote about here "diary of days".  I think there had been conversation between them and I believe CA knew something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:09:54 PM
Sassycat... I am sitting here laughing, I have two girls in the age group of Casey, they know me and there is no way they would be telling me about sexual positions that this age group is all doing. I guess my strict Catholic upbringing is showing, I don't know what I would say if this conversation came up. I didn't even know what that train comment was about.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL.   My girls tell me everything!    I was a single parent for a long time - and was lucky that my 3 girls were very open with me about what was going on "in the real world".    All three went to private Catholic schools - and I'm lucky that they all had good heads on their shoulders and didn't do half the stuff their friends were doing!!!!     ::MonkeyWink::
That's good, maybe if mine would have opened up more, their mother wouldn't feel so naive sitting here. But then I probably would have said, don't tell me these things. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:10:14 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


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Thanks!    :flower:

Very well said! ITA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 02:11:33 PM
Oh Man I just got up, yes I know its after one oclock.  So you all think we are waiting on the identity of the dad to bury Caylee?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 02:12:49 PM
You're right--that idea about LE leaving the body there was absurd. I thought maybe they could done those studies on the spot, right where she was, but it's very unlikely. This case is messing with my head.

Re: Tim & LP--I had never heard of him before this case. It seemed to me that he was always calling off searches because of money, and always talking about how much he was losing, etc... Understand I only saw him in this case, and not in any of the hundreds of other cases he's been involved in.

NONE of that fight made any sense to me, because how in the hell could Tim emerge from the river with the skull, if the skull wasn't there in the river? I've always wondered why LP was so certain it was in the river, and Tim was so certain it wasn't, and I think there's way more to that conversation than either man is saying. JMO. 

I think Tim was sure because he had done the underwater scan.  I think Leonard was sure because of the beads.

As far as the whole money argument between the two, I think someone gave Tim some bad information.  I think Tim was told that Rob's website was making lots of money, because after the blow up the yearly dues were refunded and site closed.  As a former member there, I remember doing the math, and there was no way, the fee was $10 a year and only a couple hundred members at most. 

So, it is my opinion someone was trying to cause a rift between Leonard and Tim, it either had to be someone already in TES ranks or a new trusted member IMHO.  Why, I don't know, maybe a power play, there is a new chapter in Orlando now.  Don't know, but its a shame, because I always thought the two would become friends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:13:49 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


Well, he really asked people to donate to TES THRU his and Rob Dick's site which you had to pay to be a member, however when you hit the donate to TES button, it redirected you to not the TES account, but an LP and Rob Dick account, and then they were going to "forward the money". I went to this site many times until they closed it and was disgusted by the venom towards Tim......here is just a tidbit:


It comes with great sadness that I will be closing the forum and refunding all money received. This comes from being exposed to groups like Kidfinders and Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch. I am shocked and amazed by the actions of these groups. To even compare KFN and TES is reprehensible IMO
I am not one to bad mouth someone or give speculation as to one’s motives; however, I will not stand by and have Leonard or myself attacked by people that have no business throwing rocks when they themselves live in glass houses. I will tell it like it is because I was there and I am an eyewitness to the events.

For the last few months Leonard has been on Nancy Grace promoting TES and asking people to donate to his cause as well as offer whatever assistance to the search effort of TES. The publicity of this case through the efforts of Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla by keeping it in the headlines has generated the participation and funds for TES that Tim himself told us making this the largest search in the history of TES.

Leonard Padilla has covered all expenses of our group out of his own pocket for both trips from California to Florida including the funding for the original bail bond of $500,000.

I am repulsed by the actions of Tim Miller and the fact that he is biting the hand that feeds him; I am not sure how he thought he had received so many donations and response to his search. He is upset because people stopped Leonard or I to take some photos, I am not sure as to what he wanted; us to shun people away or act stuck up, maybe it gave the volunteers something to do as they stood around waiting to start searching while Tim set up his command center and trying to get organized during the morning after the search was already to begin, not sure what he was doing for the four days he was here before the search was to start but I said I wouldn’t get into that.

It has been reported on The Daily BS (I couldn’t have named that site any better…lol) “membership at his forum site, profiting $298,500 as of Monday” now I am not sure what kind of calculator these guys are using but, anyone can go to the forum not even being a member, click on the Statistics tab and see that there are 169 members. Now multiply 169 x $9.95 – the $ 0.59 (that Paypal charges) = $1,581.84 as well as an additional $270.00 in donations.

I have the money for Tim Millers group however where is he, Tim stated on National TV that he was coming into town to conduct the largest search in the nation to find Caylee and that he would not leave town until he found her. Now I am not going to go into the fact that he was here for three days of searching and leaves town when he receives $30,000 to go up and search in North Carolina for another family. Is Tim chasing after lost individuals or is he chasing the money but I will stop here as I said I would not sink to his level. I also realize that helping other families is important but he should not have a problem with us continuing to search.

I will not run from these lies and false statements however, maybe people are right; it is not our job to raise money for this organizations and I will not contribute another ounce of energy to bring money to Tim Miller. I am refunding every dollar to the people that have donated for this effort. I will not be associated with handing Tim one cent that I helped raise for his efforts, if anyone wants to donate to TES please donate direct to them, for I will not be involved. I apologize for not furthering the forum but will concentrate on doing what is our job: reading through the lies and solving the mystery. We are thinkers and our job is to get to the bottom of the lies involved in this crime and the focus should have always been for…. BRINGING CAYLEE HOME.


The same goes for Kidfinders. I know for a fact that this organization as attempted to stop both searches of the water at J. Blanchard Park. Why is this? Why would anyone not want the search for Caylee to continue until she is found? Are we onto something? The only thing that comes to mind is that if Caylee is found, Kidfinders does not receive any more donations. So, who is really exploiting the family?

Thanks for all the kind words on the forum and all the smart thinkers out there. We will be left to continue the search.


 
 On December 23, 2008 at 7:13 am Ronda Said:
Rob, for you to act like you and Leonard are victims is pathetic. We all know why you gave that money back and it had nothing to do with Tim Miller. You gave it back because you and Lenny were busted and for you to attack a man that has dedicated his life searching for missing people shows just how pathetic you are.
Tim was called in to help search for Caylee, while you, Leonard and the rest of Lenny’s traveling circus, involved yourselves into a case that thanks to Clown Lenny has gone on longer than it should. If he had kept his hat and toothpick in CA, this case might have been closed a long time ago.

With regards to you comment about Tim leaving when he got $30,000 to go to North Carolina for another family, proves that Tim is the one that is trusted and called upon when a family has lost a loved one. Did the family from North Carolina contact you and Lenny? You see Rob, Caylee wasn’t the only missing child/person and unlike you and Lenny, Tim goes where he is called upon.

Who was asked to take a Lie Detector Test Rob? Who was wanting to contact Don King to have his Lie Detector done on PPV? If it was all about finding Caylee for you and Lenny, answer me this, when Lenny first got here, he stated that he was going to give the “kidnappers” one week to return Caylee before he started searching for her? If it was all about finding Caylee, wouldn’t you think Lenny would want to begin his search as soon as possible? Why would he wait a week?

In the interviews with Lenny and Tim, who was the one of the two that mentioned that $250,000 reward over and over again? I really don’t think that Tim needed Lenny begging for donations on his behalf. I mean lets check the records to see how much Tim and his group has raised for their searches. I don’t think Lenny was around begging for donations for any of those searches, how the hell did Tim manage before Lenny came along to raise money for Tim’s company?

Here’s an idea for Lenny to raise money, Lenny can call Don King and schedule a PPV event and at this PPV Lenny can bring in his accounting for the money he raised for the search and how it was distributed and Tim can bring in his books and we’ll compare the two, to see who was really the one dedicated to finding Caylee. Sound good to you?

Your comment about Tim being upset because it was you and Lenny that everyone wanted pictures of and Tim was jealous, well lets look at this shall we? How many times did you and Lenny appear on tv/radio or any other media outlet compared to Tim.

With regards to Nancy Grace and the way she kept putting that idiot on her show and referring to him as if he was some kind of Anthony Family expert, it is going to cost her.quite a few loyal fans. As a former loyal fan/viewer of her show, I will no longer be tuning in and neither will alot of her other viewers.

She has lost the trust of her viewers, by her putting this idiot on her show for ratings or whatever reason she has, she makes it clear that it is all about the ratings and without viewers you have not rating, so I maybe Lenny can get her a spot on his show.

You should be ashamed of yourself and you need to quit telling lies.
 

IM :smt058 

Thanks Sunny ::MonkeyRoll:: I forgot the link from that, it's been shut down but this was it and those are the comments after the bounty hunters posted, I have more of it saved somewhere and will look later, but I'm off work due to an early close and am going to head out to the beach and enjoy some sunshine. BBL monkeys ::MonkeyDance::



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???


I've always wondered about that, I'm guessing Cindy meant I've given you 31 days to come home with Caylee, to speak to her, to hold her. She knew something was terribly wrong, she had to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 02:13:58 PM

hmmm.  Maybe Lee told Rick, himself!    Maybe Rick saw some photos???

Another act that these kids are doing (I have girls KC's age and they tell me what's going on with that age group), is a girl will do two guys at once.  (one in the front and one in the rear).   They have some special name for it, but I can't recall what it is called.

Death Penalty.   ::MonkeyWink::

 :smt046         I can't see why anyone would want to partake in that act!!!!     I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid. I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron. You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool. Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot. You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible. The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid.

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance. I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe. You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???


I have read those emails before and yes, Rick does "flat out" tell her EVERYTHING that CA does NOT want to hear. 

The clothes he is referencing are the clothes that CA washed of KC's that were found in the car.  I thought i heard that the pants were gray dress pants with a pinstrip on them??? 

I know about the pants of casey that cin-cin washed....and I agree with Rick she knew they smelled of decomp and washed them....idiot!!

this is the statement I was questioning

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

I don't remember anything about an article of clothing of the sitters???  Or am I not reading this correctly??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:16:29 PM

hmmm.  Maybe Lee told Rick, himself!    Maybe Rick saw some photos???

Another act that these kids are doing (I have girls KC's age and they tell me what's going on with that age group), is a girl will do two guys at once.  (one in the front and one in the rear).   They have some special name for it, but I can't recall what it is called.

Death Penalty.   ::MonkeyWink::

 :smt046         I can't see why anyone would want to partake in that act!!!!     I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy!
And again I'm sitting here trying to figure out what those initials mean.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 02:16:54 PM

IMO all this trouble, all this money, is covering something big, like a child pornography ring or a drug ring or both. It just wouldn't be worth it to help Casey in order to conceal paternity...unless the father is a government official or a very wealthy and powerful married man whose money comes mainly from his wife.  If a guy stood to lose his job, marriage, and reputation, and income, and that $500,000 bond were a drop in the bucket, he might well pay it, and more, to keep it from coming to light.

But that presupposes he knows they might be able to prove it, and it also presupposes that they didn't already try.

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/noddingyes.gif)

I've even thought perhaps this guy was someone connected to LE, given the fact that *it seems* that Casey and the A family have been treated with kid gloves, things they've done and said seemingly overlooked and allowed to continue.  Such things that any of us, any regular person, would have never been allowed to get away with.  Either someone in LE directly involved with Casey and Caylee... Or Casey having been directly involved with something that would uncover some shady things going on with LE.  Perhaps a whole ring of girls made available to LE.  Such things have happened elsewhere!  Something BIG, that when uncovered is gonna rock someone 'higher up' than Casey.  Cuz, after all, it sure doesn't seem like Casey or the A's are anyone in particular. 

So am just wondering WHO else could be being protected here??  At the tune of tons and TONS of $$? 

It's been said over and over... follow the money. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 02:17:33 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid/(dumb). I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron/(dumb). You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool/(dumb).  Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot/(dumb).  You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid/(dumb) I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible/(dumb).  The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid/(dumb).

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron/(dumb) for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid/(dumb) they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance/(duumb).  I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe/(dumb).  You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON/(DUMB) YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???



1)  How many synonyms for the word dumb.
2)  Was this #1 on the Family Feud list from the other day?        
     ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 02:17:35 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???

#2 is my vote


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
George says in his FBI interview that Cindy went as far as to travel down to Universal in order to confront Casey during the month they had not seen her.  He claims that Cindy called Casey from the parking lot of Universal and asked where she was within the park so that she could come in and see her as she was sitting in the parking lot.  Casey replied with "Oh I am not at work, I am in Tampa dealing with Zanny".  So we are suposed to believe that this was the last of her attempts?  This was the last of her efforts?  She just let this go?  This was the first attempt? 
Sorry, again I do not buy this.  If I were to pull this crap on my mother here is how the conversation WOULD go down.
SIMULATION ONLY
Ma: "I am in the parking lot of your work.  Where are you I am coming in to talk."
Me: "Oh I am not at work I am in Tampa."
Ma: "When will you be back?"
Me: "I am not quite sure yet."
Ma: "Wrong, you will be back tonight and will come to the house.  Just note if you do not I will call LE."
Me: "Why?"
Ma: "How do I know you do not have a gun to your head right now.  Will see you tonight."
Me: "Yup"

Cindy did not just let the conversation with Casey go with "I am in Tampa".  No dice!!!  Where is Caylee?  What is going on Casey?  Why are you avoiding us Casey?  We need to talk this out Casey.  All things that I would have been saying if I was in this situation. 
No one has ever come out and said that they tried to talk to Casey in a rational way, it all seems to be a huge screaming and pissing war among them.


True. But I think this family probably gave up talking rationally to Casey by the time she was ten. Narcissists wear you down like that. Besides, they don't seem any too bright, and probably aren't all that good at talking rationally at the best of times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:19:58 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???

#2 is my vote

Mine, too. You can't turn a custodial parent in for kidnapping their kid. Even if they won't tell you where the child is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 02:20:57 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.
A long time back I posted a picture of Jose's daughter and information on her.  She was working as a spokesperson for Jose, addressing the media.  However, someone felt my posting her picture was not appropriate (maybe because I used the one from her school and not the media) don't know.  Anyway I deleted the picture but the information should still be there if you want to try a forum search. 

I do remember that when Jose first took the case, his daughter was working in his law office.  Sorry, I don't remember her name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 02:21:28 PM


IM :smt058 

Thanks Sunny ::MonkeyRoll:: I forgot the link from that, it's been shut down but this was it and those are the comments after the bounty hunters posted, I have more of it saved somewhere and will look later, but I'm off work due to an early close and am going to head out to the beach and enjoy some sunshine. BBL monkeys ::MonkeyDance::



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 02:23:03 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:23:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 02:23:36 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid. I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron. You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool. Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot. You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible. The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid.

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance. I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe. You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???

throwing the love right back atcha babe!  I enjoyed reading those emails.  It's very validating.
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:24:11 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.
A long time back I posted a picture of Jose's daughter and information on her.  She was working as a spokesperson for Jose, addressing the media.  However, someone felt my posting her picture was not appropriate (maybe because I used the one from her school and not the media) don't know.  Anyway I deleted the picture but the information should still be there if you want to try a forum search. 

I do remember that when Jose first took the case, his daughter was working in his law office.  Sorry, I don't remember her name.
Thank You...I will look it up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 02:24:18 PM
I think Tim was sure because he had done the underwater scan.  I think Leonard was sure because of the beads.

As far as the whole money argument between the two, I think someone gave Tim some bad information.  I think Tim was told that Rob's website was making lots of money, because after the blow up the yearly dues were refunded and site closed.  As a former member there, I remember doing the math, and there was no way, the fee was $10 a year and only a couple hundred members at most. 

So, it is my opinion someone was trying to cause a rift between Leonard and Tim, it either had to be someone already in TES ranks or a new trusted member IMHO.  Why, I don't know, maybe a power play, there is a new chapter in Orlando now.  Don't know, but its a shame, because I always thought the two would become friends.



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Today, sounds like maybe something the As's or one of their buddies had a hand-in.  At that point, they despised both Tim and LP.    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 02:24:28 PM
I'm not all caught up so I may have missed something, but at this point, I would think that LE has more potential to disclose the Father's identity than Baez. I honestly do not understand how Caylee's remains are going to be turned over to Cindy and George without there being an effort to determine the Father's Identity. He's "next of kin" equally with Casey, isn't he?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I've wondered the same things CBB.  The only thing that would make sense in this is if LE already knows who the birth father is, for certain, and are not making that info public, for whatever reason. 

And I've wondered... If it turns out that Caylee's father or his family is 'located', couldn't they in turn, file a 'wrongful death' suit against Casey or the A family, with regard to Caylee's demise? 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 02:24:28 PM

You're right--that idea about LE leaving the body there was absurd. I thought maybe they could done those studies on the spot, right where she was, but it's very unlikely. This case is messing with my head.

Re: Tim & LP--I had never heard of him before this case. It seemed to me that he was always calling off searches because of money, and always talking about how much he was losing, etc... Understand I only saw him in this case, and not in any of the hundreds of other cases he's been involved in.

NONE of that fight made any sense to me, because how in the hell could Tim emerge from the river with the skull, if the skull wasn't there in the river? I've always wondered why LP was so certain it was in the river, and Tim was so certain it wasn't, and I think there's way more to that conversation than either man is saying. JMO.


ITA.  I still can't get over him saying that on national TV.  Just too much!  ::MonkeyEek::

I totally agree AM...whether the statement is true or not, national TV was a completely inappropriate forum to be making that statement.. even though LP didn't say anything about it on TV, I wonder if he confronted Tim after the show in private


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:25:43 PM
Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 
Thank You, and I have found out that JP had left PR in 2002 to come to Florida, dont know yet if he had met Casey back then but he was in Orlando back then.............I think its as good a possibility as anything else and then the Cyndy Baez that works for his fathers comp. would explain where Baez came from if I can find that connection.
A long time back I posted a picture of Jose's daughter and information on her.  She was working as a spokesperson for Jose, addressing the media.  However, someone felt my posting her picture was not appropriate (maybe because I used the one from her school and not the media) don't know.  Anyway I deleted the picture but the information should still be there if you want to try a forum search. 

I do remember that when Jose first took the case, his daughter was working in his law office.  Sorry, I don't remember her name.
Yes I remember this, I can't recall her first name either, wasn't she involved with the public relations angle for him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:26:23 PM
,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door

because now my gears are turning..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Isn't it the OTHER Tony who just wanted sex, and not a kid around? He was actually upset because they'd only been together a couple of times.. she kept putting it off. So actually, I don't think Caylee had anything really to do with why she didn't get together with him. She was making up reasons not to be with him (Maybe she used him for whatever purpose it was she wanted him for- access to police records, whatever- and then when she didn't need him anymore, she used all kinds of lame excuses not to show up at his place. He even called her a tease, IIRC).

UH OH,  maybe i am totally wrong.  Wouldn't be the first time.  I totally forget about the other Tony.


It's very likely neither Tony wanted Caylee around.  The boyfriend (as in, AR) probably thought Caylee was cute enough as a kid.. but wasn't necessarily ready to be her daddy.. and we know by his comments to LE that Casey was much more serious about him than he was about her.  The Tony that was the cop is (I believe) the one who kept calling Caylee "snot head"... and he wanted much more sex from Casey than she was giving him. In those texts, he made her sound like a tease.. and she was pi$$ed about it.  But she was also using the nanny excuse with him, when we know there was no nanny.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Good memory--she was already using the nanny excuse with Rusciano. But he didn't call Caylee "snot head," Casey did. Tony called her "the offspring," which some people do when they're trying to be cute. Munchkins, rugrats, offspring, etc....She seemed to be trying to get out of sex with him, and he was trying to pressure her into coming over. IMO she was pursuing someone else already and just didn't have time for him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shan1628 on January 02, 2009, 02:26:26 PM
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.


Blaze - did I tell you I loved you!  LOL

I thought I had these bookmarked and couldn't find them......since things are a bit slow I'd love to talk about them....Rick tells it like it is and Cin-Cin hates him for the truth!!

mail from Rick to Cindy
August 21 2008 at 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: won’t do Greta

Cindy, George did wrestle his dad and put him thru the window. That is why George had to start his own business. Don’t lie to me about it.

 Mom filled me in on Casey so don’t lie to me about her. She STOLE dads check and bought a stupid phone at AT&T so don’t lie to me about the $354!!!! Mom has the god damn statement! I know I re verified with mom today!!!

 The sitter IS the whole case! Are you that dumb??? The house could be JOE BLOWS for Christ’s sake. are you that naive??? You really are that stupid/(dumb). I can’t believe it. My sister is a moron/(dumb). You need help. You are delirious! I WAS trying to help you. Your grand daughter is dead!! there I said it. Casey has killed her someway either by accident or on purpose. Casey is a narcissist Read up on it. You and George have been walking through life with blinders on.

 Casey made you both look like fools at my wedding. Did you forget I told you she was pregnant!!! You are a nurse for Christ’s sake. You are a fool/(dumb).  Casey has buffaloed you and George for a long time.

 I also know about George and the internet and he paid most of it back from his workers comp check. Casey ran up the tab. Mom knows and told me you idiot/(dumb).  You think what you d is secret? You are living a fantasy!! Wake the hell up sister!!

 George’s debt was paid over time in Ohio. I remember the settlement and that was from 1989. You think I am as dumb as you? You are not only in denial but are missing your brain.

The article of clothing of the sitters was verified by who? Casey? No one ever saw the sitter so how could they have proven to be hers. I don't remember any article of clothing that was supposedly Zanny's???

What drugs are you on. You are so stupid/(dumb) I can’t take it. You should make the Guinness book of world records for being gullible/(dumb).  The only thing that God knows is Casey is a liar and you are stupid/(dumb).

 Casey knows where Caylee is and when all the evidence is in she will get the death penalty for murder.

 You have to be a moron/(dumb) for destroying evidence with washing pants that smell like a dead body. If they were in the car and the smell was in the trunk how could the pants stink? Think use that think on your shoulders.

 If the cops didn’t think you were stupid/(dumb) they would bring charges against you and George for destroying evidence.

 I disowned Nate for lying for Pam and I can disown you for your ignorance/(duumb).  I see how Casey is so screwed up between you and George as role models.

Saying Casey will be mother of the year I nearly tossed my groceries. She will be mutha of the year. Those people in prison will have a field day with her. You better tell her to confess and ask for solitary. It is her only hope. Do you think I care anymore after you attacked me. You are in another universe/(dumb).  You and George ARE on your own. Good luck with that.
Oh by the way, EVERYONE ON GRETA THINKS CAYLEE IS DEAD INCLUDING GRETA! DO YOU EVER WATCH HER SHOW? WHAT A MORON/(DUMB) YOU ARE!!! MENTAL HOSPITAL HERE YOU COME!!!

His frustration is so evident in this email.....anyone ever hear about the article of clothing he is talking about???



1)  How many synonyms for the word dumb.
2)  Was this #1 on the Family Feud list from the other day?        
     ::MonkeyDance::

I guess the synonyms were used incase she didnt know what they meant....she could associate them all with DUMB.  I'm thinking Rick thought his sister was dumb...MOO   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 02:26:34 PM
Just for the record, I do not automatically accept that Casey is the victim of abuse from George or Lee or anyone else, no matter what she told Tony.  George and Lee are innocent of incest until proven guilty in my book.  It may not have happened.  If it did, I could see Casey being the agressor, even with her own dad.  BUT, he would be the most responsible party, since he is the father and the older of the two.

Concerning, the "pulled a train" comment, I had no idea what that meant, but I do know, as a former high school  teacher, that things like that are not kept secret.  The guys love to brag about conquests and someone always tells if a girl is that notorious.  Lee might have discussed it with Rick's son, too, since he surely would have heard about it.  Sometimes people tell cousin's family secrets, thinking they live far away and it will not go any farther.  But it usually does, of course.  And these days, kids post so much on the internet, even very personal things.
-call
But that is also rumor, even though it comes from her uncle.  Casey strikes me as being very emotionally needy and prone to do anything for a male.  She was cooking and cleaning for Tony, like a little housewife, as well as sleeping with him.

I do think the psychologist's remarks are interesting, though, especially the one about the so-called bucket list.  We have all wondered how and why she would shop and party after Caylee was gone.  It makes sense that she decided to do all the things that she loved to do before she got caught, and if she never got caught, all the better.  But I think she knew the day would come eventually, and she was living it up until then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!
::MonkeyLaugh:: I will never be able to watch Mr. Ed again without thinking of Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 02:29:23 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???



She had to have known before July 3rd, because on July 3rd CA wrote that blog on her myspace about Caylee Missing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 02:29:42 PM

1)  How many synonyms for the word dumb.
2)  Was this #1 on the Family Feud list from the other day?        
     ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:29:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!
::MonkeyLaugh:: I will never be able to watch Mr. Ed again without thinking of Casey.
Me either, and the more he said horse, the more she looked like one! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


Well, he really asked people to donate to TES THRU his and Rob Dick's site which you had to pay to be a member, however when you hit the donate to TES button, it redirected you to not the TES account, but an LP and Rob Dick account, and then they were going to "forward the money". I went to this site many times until they closed it and was disgusted by the venom towards Tim......here is just a tidbit:


It comes with great sadness that I will be closing the forum and refunding all money received. This comes from being exposed to groups like Kidfinders and Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch. I am shocked and amazed by the actions of these groups. To even compare KFN and TES is reprehensible IMO
I am not one to bad mouth someone or give speculation as to one’s motives; however, I will not stand by and have Leonard or myself attacked by people that have no business throwing rocks when they themselves live in glass houses. I will tell it like it is because I was there and I am an eyewitness to the events.

For the last few months Leonard has been on Nancy Grace promoting TES and asking people to donate to his cause as well as offer whatever assistance to the search effort of TES. The publicity of this case through the efforts of Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla by keeping it in the headlines has generated the participation and funds for TES that Tim himself told us making this the largest search in the history of TES.

Leonard Padilla has covered all expenses of our group out of his own pocket for both trips from California to Florida including the funding for the original bail bond of $500,000.

I am repulsed by the actions of Tim Miller and the fact that he is biting the hand that feeds him; I am not sure how he thought he had received so many donations and response to his search. He is upset because people stopped Leonard or I to take some photos, I am not sure as to what he wanted; us to shun people away or act stuck up, maybe it gave the volunteers something to do as they stood around waiting to start searching while Tim set up his command center and trying to get organized during the morning after the search was already to begin, not sure what he was doing for the four days he was here before the search was to start but I said I wouldn’t get into that.

It has been reported on The Daily BS (I couldn’t have named that site any better…lol) “membership at his forum site, profiting $298,500 as of Monday” now I am not sure what kind of calculator these guys are using but, anyone can go to the forum not even being a member, click on the Statistics tab and see that there are 169 members. Now multiply 169 x $9.95 – the $ 0.59 (that Paypal charges) = $1,581.84 as well as an additional $270.00 in donations.

I have the money for Tim Millers group however where is he, Tim stated on National TV that he was coming into town to conduct the largest search in the nation to find Caylee and that he would not leave town until he found her. Now I am not going to go into the fact that he was here for three days of searching and leaves town when he receives $30,000 to go up and search in North Carolina for another family. Is Tim chasing after lost individuals or is he chasing the money but I will stop here as I said I would not sink to his level. I also realize that helping other families is important but he should not have a problem with us continuing to search.

I will not run from these lies and false statements however, maybe people are right; it is not our job to raise money for this organizations and I will not contribute another ounce of energy to bring money to Tim Miller. I am refunding every dollar to the people that have donated for this effort. I will not be associated with handing Tim one cent that I helped raise for his efforts, if anyone wants to donate to TES please donate direct to them, for I will not be involved. I apologize for not furthering the forum but will concentrate on doing what is our job: reading through the lies and solving the mystery. We are thinkers and our job is to get to the bottom of the lies involved in this crime and the focus should have always been for…. BRINGING CAYLEE HOME.


The same goes for Kidfinders. I know for a fact that this organization as attempted to stop both searches of the water at J. Blanchard Park. Why is this? Why would anyone not want the search for Caylee to continue until she is found? Are we onto something? The only thing that comes to mind is that if Caylee is found, Kidfinders does not receive any more donations. So, who is really exploiting the family?

Thanks for all the kind words on the forum and all the smart thinkers out there. We will be left to continue the search.


 
 On December 23, 2008 at 7:13 am Ronda Said:
Rob, for you to act like you and Leonard are victims is pathetic. We all know why you gave that money back and it had nothing to do with Tim Miller. You gave it back because you and Lenny were busted and for you to attack a man that has dedicated his life searching for missing people shows just how pathetic you are.
Tim was called in to help search for Caylee, while you, Leonard and the rest of Lenny’s traveling circus, involved yourselves into a case that thanks to Clown Lenny has gone on longer than it should. If he had kept his hat and toothpick in CA, this case might have been closed a long time ago.

With regards to you comment about Tim leaving when he got $30,000 to go to North Carolina for another family, proves that Tim is the one that is trusted and called upon when a family has lost a loved one. Did the family from North Carolina contact you and Lenny? You see Rob, Caylee wasn’t the only missing child/person and unlike you and Lenny, Tim goes where he is called upon.

Who was asked to take a Lie Detector Test Rob? Who was wanting to contact Don King to have his Lie Detector done on PPV? If it was all about finding Caylee for you and Lenny, answer me this, when Lenny first got here, he stated that he was going to give the “kidnappers” one week to return Caylee before he started searching for her? If it was all about finding Caylee, wouldn’t you think Lenny would want to begin his search as soon as possible? Why would he wait a week?

In the interviews with Lenny and Tim, who was the one of the two that mentioned that $250,000 reward over and over again? I really don’t think that Tim needed Lenny begging for donations on his behalf. I mean lets check the records to see how much Tim and his group has raised for their searches. I don’t think Lenny was around begging for donations for any of those searches, how the hell did Tim manage before Lenny came along to raise money for Tim’s company?

Here’s an idea for Lenny to raise money, Lenny can call Don King and schedule a PPV event and at this PPV Lenny can bring in his accounting for the money he raised for the search and how it was distributed and Tim can bring in his books and we’ll compare the two, to see who was really the one dedicated to finding Caylee. Sound good to you?

Your comment about Tim being upset because it was you and Lenny that everyone wanted pictures of and Tim was jealous, well lets look at this shall we? How many times did you and Lenny appear on tv/radio or any other media outlet compared to Tim.

With regards to Nancy Grace and the way she kept putting that idiot on her show and referring to him as if he was some kind of Anthony Family expert, it is going to cost her.quite a few loyal fans. As a former loyal fan/viewer of her show, I will no longer be tuning in and neither will alot of her other viewers.

She has lost the trust of her viewers, by her putting this idiot on her show for ratings or whatever reason she has, she makes it clear that it is all about the ratings and without viewers you have not rating, so I maybe Lenny can get her a spot on his show.

You should be ashamed of yourself and you need to quit telling lies.
 

IM :smt058 

I was actually one of the first to sign on to LP and Rob's website.   It was ok at first, but it was rather disorganized, I thought.  Someone would start a new thread with each and every question.   I got my refund, and barely logged after the whole Blanchard Park episode.   I tried to go over there last week, and my password no longer worked, so I guess I was banned.    Like I said earlier, I'm sad that there was a rif between LP and Tim.   It seems like money always ruins everything.  I still like both men. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
Casey seemed to enjoy having several guys on a string at once.  It probably made her feel very much in control to have men calling her and begging to see her.  Tony R. obviously wanted to see her again, but she did tease him and stall instead of saying she was involved with someone else.  Tony L. teased HER, and she seemed to value him more.  The Waters guy seemed kind of simple, and he was really smitten with Casey, even telling LE that others complained about her constant chatter but he liked to hear her talk.  She was just toying with him, imo.  As for Mark Hawkins, the Marine, she may have envisioned naming him as the father of Caylee, heading to California where he was stationed, and telling him Caylee was with her parents and telling her parents Caylee was with her in California.  It might have worked for a while.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 02, 2009, 02:35:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!



 ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shan1628 on January 02, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????

Casey Marie Anthony  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::
There is no one, imo, that she can name except herself. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 02:37:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!
::MonkeyLaugh:: I will never be able to watch Mr. Ed again without thinking of Casey.
Me either, and the more he said horse, the more she looked like one! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm sorry for the mix up with my email addy, have you been able to get the right one from one of the mods? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 02:38:36 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????

Casey Marie Anthony  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::
There is no one, imo, that she can name except herself. 

I agree with you about her being guilty!!! I'm just thinking that JB says we haven't heard "the other side" of this story.  Well, we have heard the Nanny story, so I'm wondering who this "other side" involves.  JB wouldn't be referring to KC, as he is defending her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 02:39:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!
::MonkeyLaugh:: I will never be able to watch Mr. Ed again without thinking of Casey.
Me either, and the more he said horse, the more she looked like one! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm sorry for the mix up with my email addy, have you been able to get the right one from one of the mods? ::MonkeyConfused::
No,  the one I got keeps sending the mail back to me....If Klaas wants she can send you mine also....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 02:41:50 PM
I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.


We've seen Cindy leading George around and he seemingly agree to that, for whatever reason.  Yet we've also seen George's temper, as with the protestors, the media, and those who set up cameras in his yard.  It seems to me that at times George and Cindy take turns being the big, bad boss in that family, although George does seem to back down to Cindy much of the time.  My point is, George has shown an anger, rage actually.  We don't know *for certain* that George has physically abused his father, altho we do have it on good authority that he did.  Even tho he appears much of the time to be following Cindy around like a lil puppy, I think he's very capable of uncontrolled rage.  Sometimes this happens with folks who are squashed into their corners time after time, who allow that feeling powerless, at some point they just may come flying out with both barrels cocked, and everyone near best take cover.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 02:42:59 PM
Well, I do not think Casey can throw Tony Lazarro under the bus, since she said so emphatically on the phone with Kristina the day of her arrest that Tony had not seen Caylee for weeks.  Cindy seemed to try to implicate Jesse, but in a jail visit, when she asked if Jesse had been babysitting Caylee, Casey said that he had not kept Casey since she was a little baby.  And the police seem to have exonerated Jesse completely, so he does not seem a likely victim of her wrath now.  Cindy also implied Amy may have been keeping Caylee, but Amy worked most of the time and was in Puerto Rico for a while, so it would be hard to make her the culprit.  Zanny the Nanny is still a phantom, along with her mom and sister, so it will be laughable if they insist she did this.  All roads lead back to Casey.  That's why I think they will go for the abuse excuse and perhaps some sort of diminished capacity brought on by abuse, and the most likely victims in that case are her own family members.  It would not be that hard to do, since they have been so weird during their times in front of the media and given the police reports of several disturbances at the home, Cindy's threats to take custody of Caylee, all of their financial problems and other pressures that often lead to abuse.  I am not saying abuse happened in the home, but it would be the easiest route for Baez to take.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:46:46 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???


I've always wondered about that, I'm guessing Cindy meant I've given you 31 days to come home with Caylee, to speak to her, to hold her. She knew something was terribly wrong, she had to.

If Cindy said 31 days in a 911 call, this is before the convo KC had with Lee and the spiteful bitch comment. So Cindy was obviously counting the days since she had last seen Caylee. Which 31 days would have been June 15th, why then did she give the LE June 7th, then June 9th dates?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: ShariVari on January 02, 2009, 02:48:23 PM

Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

I agree. Stuff like that drives me crazy. A friend of mine (that I recently connected with after years of not seeing each other), just ended a long relationship with a woman (who has children).. supposedly in part because he wanted his own kids.. Why get into a relationship with somebody who already has children, if you know you're never going to be serious about marrying them... unless it's all about sex or perhaps temporary companionship? It's just selfish, IMO.  And Casey - if she were a good mother - should have known better than to get involved with Tony, for that reason alone.

I got into a relationship with someone and later realized that I did not want a ready-made family.  We dated for two years and even lived together, he had full custody of his daughter, which is unusual...mom was/is a total basketcase.  As much as I cared for his daughter, and maybe it was just because I was an only child, myself....plus twelve years catholic school....I eventually realized that I could not cope with raising someone else's child.  People held me accountable for the actions of a child that I had not raised, as if I were her mother.  Meanwhile, her real mother is not paying child support when she only has to pay a meager amount every month.  After I found MYSELF paying for child care for someone else's kid at 24, I gave up.

My point is:  falling in love and caring about people is not all cut and dry.  I will never date another person with a child from a previous relationship, I learned my lesson.  I still care about the little girl, and it sucks that we have no contact after I pretty much was 50% of a parenting team for 2 years.  You really never can tell what you've signed up for until you experience it.  Tony was just being honest with Casey about his plans for kids, I think he tried to tell Casey all along that he wasn't all that serious.  Problem is, a girl like Casey loves the chase.  When Tony was joking about moving back to NY, Casey cried and acted all bitchy.  She did this to a guy she had dated for A MONTH!  She wouldn't have liked Tony as much if he hadn't kept trying to keep his distance, IMO.  I will get off my soapbox now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Remember when CA called the dispatcher and was talking to KC while on the phone?  When she said "I've already given you 31 days" what do you think she was referring to?

31 days to find Caylee
31 days to move back the Ants house with Caylee
31 days to sign over custody of Caylee to CA

or what????

If it was the first, then she had known for 31 days that Caylee was missing???

So, if she knew for 31 days that a child was missing, can't she be charged with something???


I've always wondered about that, I'm guessing Cindy meant I've given you 31 days to come home with Caylee, to speak to her, to hold her. She knew something was terribly wrong, she had to.

If Cindy said 31 days in a 911 call, this is before the convo KC had with Lee and the spiteful bitch comment. So Cindy was obviously counting the days since she had last seen Caylee. Which 31 days would have been June 15th, why then did she give the LE June 7th, then June 9th dates?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yeah.  It doesn't make sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shan1628 on January 02, 2009, 02:49:36 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????

Casey Marie Anthony  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::
There is no one, imo, that she can name except herself. 

I agree with you about her being guilty!!! I'm just thinking that JB says we haven't heard "the other side" of this story.  Well, we have heard the Nanny story, so I'm wondering who this "other side" involves.  JB wouldn't be referring to KC, as he is defending her.

Honestly, Casey is gonna start throwin the family under the bus.  The nanny story is fiction, we all know that now.  So imo, if Baez and KC stick to the Nanny story, they are going down fast.    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.


Thanks for the great reply. Good discussion!
1. Serial killer on a small scale. Usually starts with animals, could be Casey watched at an early age and was inspired. The bedroom of the little girl was all trophies in a way, all over the whole room it was plastered with her. And maybe Casey dumped the trophy and got a tattoo as the trophy instead.

2. If Casey ran off with Jesse at the baby's birth then jilted George could have rebounded and had a crisis by leaving and spending all the money that he promised to Casey (not Cindy). Wonder if he came back to the house when Jesse and Casey split to try and reconcile the relationship?

3. If Casey wanted to hurt Cindy she would have done so by stealing her man George. That's the ultimate hurt. Then to concieve a child with that man is even more pain. Then when Cindy gets so attached to the child Casey kills the child to hurt her even more. All the while toying with George in a little secretive game. Casey was playing a game.

Mainstream incest might not apply here. Because it usually doesn't end up with murder, just runaways and behavior issues. So the twist could be a criminal element with underlying incest that surfaced only because of DNA testing.

Thanks. You have some interesting ideas here.

1) But she didn't think of those things as trophies--she didn't want to sleep in Caylee's room. Those are Caylee's things, not Casey's trophies.
I was wondering if she had like, dog collars or ears or tails of animals that she kept, or if maybe that wooded area was a place to stash both victims and trophies. Because if she is a serial killer type, she'd follow a pattern with all her victims. I'm inclined to think this is more a Diane Downing scenario. Downing was also a sociopath, yet she fit the profile.

2) I'm getting more and more surprised that Casey killed the baby instead of the parents, here. It's feasible, but something about it doesn't work for me. I do remember George saying he wanted to beat up Jesse or something like that.

3) I could see a girl playing a game, but it seems so random and pointless here. Especially since the man in question is her biological father. If it's true, then his part in the game is to exploit both mother and daughter and play them off against one another. I don't see the reason she'd hate Cindy that much before Caylee was born, though.  Ideas?

And if Cindy knew about it, she'd have thrown Casey out, because that's what women like her do when they find out their daughter has slept with their husband. (I think that's why this bugs me--because all too often ignorant women keep the man and lose the daughter, assuming that she seduced him. It's almost never true, even when the girl thinks it is.)

4) How does her obsession with Tony Lazarro fit into all this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 02:50:21 PM
Right, Boo.  I think Cindy knew to the very hour and minute how long it had been since she saw Caylee.  I don't know why she said June 9th as the last day she saw her.

I also think George is a henpecked husband.  And don't men who are dominated by women usually go elsewhere to get their ego boosts?  Hopefully, he did not go to his own daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 02:50:35 PM
I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.


We've seen Cindy leading George around and he seemingly agree to that, for whatever reason.  Yet we've also seen George's temper, as with the protestors, the media, and those who set up cameras in his yard.  It seems to me that at times George and Cindy take turns being the big, bad boss in that family, although George does seem to back down to Cindy much of the time.  My point is, George has shown an anger, rage actually.  We don't know *for certain* that George has physically abused his father, altho we do have it on good authority that he did.  Even tho he appears much of the time to be following Cindy around like a lil puppy, I think he's very capable of uncontrolled rage.  Sometimes this happens with folks who are squashed into their corners time after time, who allow that feeling powerless, at some point they just may come flying out with both barrels cocked, and everyone near best take cover.
 

That right there shows he doesn't abuse her.  I was in an abusive relationship for over 6 years.  Trust me, when you fear getting beaten, you don't upstage the abuser.  George's rage comes from his lack of control and lack of power.  He is a whipped man!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 02:51:56 PM
IMO, KC was able to accomplish two important goals by taking Caylee's life.  First and foremost for KC, was giving herself the ability to party without having Caylee to burden her down and cramp her lifestyle.  I really believe not being able to go to Puerto Rico with her friends weighed heavily in her decision to become "free". Secondly, she knew this was something that would really hurt CA.  I belive that she was "petrified" of her mother and because CA was able to control her and make her live in fear, she hated CA for being able to do that.  I do think she had been planning this but the fight with CA made things happen faster than KC had planned. Thus being, she was caught off guard and found that many details and cover ups were lacking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 02:52:35 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????

I believe it will George and/or Cindy or both. It gives her the perfect alibi for her being at the night clubs every night. All she has to say is she left Caylee with them after their argument and never went back because they were trying to control her life.

By their own admissions they were the last ones to see Caylee if you take KC out of the equation. George said himself he was the last one to see Caylee.

KC could say all the phone calls from Cindy were her covering up Caylee's death and she had no idea anything was wrong. If there are text messages from Cindy (which have not been released), then she can say George did it and hid it from Cindy. She can say because of his vengeful, violent temper she was terrified to talk at all. She could say he threatened her, and with him buying that gun while she was out on bond, it would hold up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:54:13 PM

I got into a relationship with someone and later realized that I did not want a ready-made family.  We dated for two years and even lived together, he had full custody of his daughter, which is unusual...mom was/is a total basketcase.  As much as I cared for his daughter, and maybe it was just because I was an only child, myself....plus twelve years catholic school....I eventually realized that I could not cope with raising someone else's child.  People held me accountable for the actions of a child that I had not raised, as if I were her mother.  Meanwhile, her real mother is not paying child support when she only has to pay a meager amount every month.  After I found MYSELF paying for child care for someone else's kid at 24, I gave up.

My point is:  falling in love and caring about people is not all cut and dry.  I will never date another person with a child from a previous relationship, I learned my lesson.  I still care about the little girl, and it sucks that we have no contact after I pretty much was 50% of a parenting team for 2 years.  You really never can tell what you've signed up for until you experience it.  Tony was just being honest with Casey about his plans for kids, I think he tried to tell Casey all along that he wasn't all that serious.  Problem is, a girl like Casey loves the chase.  When Tony was joking about moving back to NY, Casey cried and acted all bitchy.  She did this to a guy she had dated for A MONTH!  She wouldn't have liked Tony as much if he hadn't kept trying to keep his distance, IMO.  I will get off my soapbox now.


I'm sorry if I offended you, Shari. You're right, though. It's never cut and dry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 02:54:27 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?

first..I'm medically illiterate..

Would the bones float once the tissue had decayed away ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:55:31 PM

If Cindy said 31 days in a 911 call, this is before the convo KC had with Lee and the spiteful bitch comment. So Cindy was obviously counting the days since she had last seen Caylee. Which 31 days would have been June 15th, why then did she give the LE June 7th, then June 9th dates? ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder the same exact thing!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 02:56:10 PM
From what I have read and heard, many mothers DO NOT blame their husbands in cases of incest.  They blame the daughter, even if the daughter is a child.  That is hard to believe, but true.  Or the mom just looks the other way and pretends it never happened.  There is plenty of evidence to show that Cindy is good at pretending or refusing to admit that bad things have happened in her family.  But that still does not prove incest.  And just because Casey said it or implied it does not make it true, because Casey is such a liar. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 02:56:12 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

It is going to be a little tricky with that kind of defense, since only Casey drove the car where some of the remains were found.  You really need to have two or more people who had the same access to everything related to the crime to pull off that kind of stunt.

A technique used by some defendants, with varying degrees of success, has been to have another person who knows the defendant confess to the crime during the trial.  Reasonable doubt kicks in, and the defendant is acquitted.  Then at the related person's trial, the original defendant confesses to the crime, resulting in the acquittal of the related person, but double-jeopardy prevents the original defendant from being tried again on the same charges.  Again, both the defendant and the colluding person must have the same access to crime stuff and the same details about the crime, so it only works some of the time, and the second person has to be darn certain that the original defendant will step forward and confess later.



(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 02:56:34 PM
I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.


We've seen Cindy leading George around and he seemingly agree to that, for whatever reason.  Yet we've also seen George's temper, as with the protestors, the media, and those who set up cameras in his yard.  It seems to me that at times George and Cindy take turns being the big, bad boss in that family, although George does seem to back down to Cindy much of the time.  My point is, George has shown an anger, rage actually.  We don't know *for certain* that George has physically abused his father, altho we do have it on good authority that he did.  Even tho he appears much of the time to be following Cindy around like a lil puppy, I think he's very capable of uncontrolled rage.  Sometimes this happens with folks who are squashed into their corners time after time, who allow that feeling powerless, at some point they just may come flying out with both barrels cocked, and everyone near best take cover.
 

That right there shows he doesn't abuse her.  I was in an abusive relationship for over 6 years.  Trust me, when you fear getting beaten, you don't upstage the abuser.  George's rage comes from his lack of control and lack of power.  He is a whipped man!

Lisa

Not all women are that afraid of an abuser all the time. Many will stand up occasionally and when they do the "serial abuser" will hurt them in places which can't be seen. They get smarter with age and don't hit where it leaves a visible mark.

I see him as a violent man, and it very well may get KC the story she needs for trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
We have heard that the Anthony's are currently seeking immunity.  I am going to go out on a limb here, bare with me, but I am just thinking outloud again.
What if the immunity is not for their story, but rather to cover George and Lee from being prosecuted for crimes such as abuse IF Baez tries to throw them under the bus in defense of Casey?
Could he be thinking ahead and seeing the possible scenarios that could come up being a defense attorney himself, and knowing what a sleeze both Casey and Baez are - no one is safe!
Ok those were my pennies for today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 02:58:03 PM
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While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.


I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

1.) My situation was reverse.. my dad WANTED me to smoke out with him. I never did, because it just made me uncomfortable, even thinking about it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  It had nothing to do with sex. It's just weird!!

2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father?  ::MonkeyEek::

No, we're talking in hypotheticals here. JJ has a psychologist friend who thinks this might be the deal just based on what he knows of the case so far.

My reasons for thinking Casey is a victim of incest are:

1) the typical profile for mothers who kill, is an incest victim in her twenties, uneducated, poor, who is suddenly dumped by a lover. Casey fits part of the profile, and since she does, I'm wondering if the rest of it might also fit.

2) So many rumors about the DNA.

3) The mystery surrounding Caylee's parentage, and the family's weird behavior, as if they feel guilty about something and have to be extra nice to Casey all the time.

4) Casey's aggressive promiscuity, very typical of incest victims. It rolls downhill. Although not all victims become abusers, all abusers used to be victims.

5) she told Grund Lee tried to molest her--I've known women to tell the whole story but lie about which family member it was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 02:58:22 PM

(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 

Anthony brought her gas evidently right in front of where she dumped Caylee, but she would not let him close to the car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
We have heard that the Anthony's are currently seeking immunity.  I am going to go out on a limb here, bare with me, but I am just thinking outloud again.
What if the immunity is not for their story, but rather to cover George and Lee from being prosecuted for crimes such as abuse IF Baez tries to throw them under the bus in defense of Casey?
Could he be thinking ahead and seeing the possible scenarios that could come up being a defense attorney himself, and knowing what a sleeze both Casey and Baez are - no one is safe!
Ok those were my pennies for today.

Can you be granted immunity (full or partial) for incest or what may amount to child abuse and/or molestation?  Maybe Cindy needs her own lawyer then?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
Fuzzball, Casey may have wanted to be rid of her parents, but it is much easier to kill a young child than an adult man or woman.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

It is going to be a little tricky with that kind of defense, since only Casey drove the car where some of the remains were found.  You really need to have two or more people who had the same access to everything related to the crime to pull off that kind of stunt.

A technique used by some defendants, with varying degrees of success, has been to have another person who knows the defendant confess to the crime during the trial.  Reasonable doubt kicks in, and the defendant is acquitted.  Then at the related person's trial, the original defendant confesses to the crime, resulting in the acquittal of the related person, but double-jeopardy prevents the original defendant from being tried again on the same charges.  Again, both the defendant and the colluding person must have the same access to crime stuff and the same details about the crime, so it only works some of the time, and the second person has to be darn certain that the original defendant will step forward and confess later.

KC wasn't the only one to drive the car.  GA drove it home from the tow yard, correct?



(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 03:00:46 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
Fuzzball, Casey may have wanted to be rid of her parents, but it is much easier to kill a young child than an adult man or woman.

Not only that, but let's say she was abused, molested, was a victim of incest..  and Caylee was perhaps a result of that..   getting rid of her parents (or George or Lee) does not get rid of the one major reminder of what happened to her- which would be Caylee. Whereas getting rid of Caylee, does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 03:02:26 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.
But most parents who kill their children out of rage it is one punch or they throw them, they dont beat them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:03:14 PM

If Cindy said 31 days in a 911 call, this is before the convo KC had with Lee and the spiteful bitch comment. So Cindy was obviously counting the days since she had last seen Caylee. Which 31 days would have been June 15th, why then did she give the LE June 7th, then June 9th dates? ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder the same exact thing!!

Maybe they were trying to take the focus off of June 15 - and the big fight that the neighbors probably heard??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:06:22 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

With her age (moreso her lack of maturity), and caring only about herself and her own wants and needs, I think it's very likely she could have gone off on Caylee like that, even if she were not on drugs.  People snap.  She obviously was detached from Caylee in many ways, and she obviously hated the fact her mom seemed to only care about Caylee, and not herself.  If there were an argument, and Cindy tried to strangle her, damn straight Casey could have been pi$$ed off enough to snap. Especially if Caylee was upset and crying and Casey wasn't able to calm her down.  Casey probably blamed her mom and Caylee for everything going wrong in her life. Taking off would have been the easy way to get away from Cindy, but killing Caylee would have been (in her mind) the only way to get away from Caylee.  (If she would have left Caylee with Cindy, she would have had to admit she sucked as a mother. That her mom was right all along.. I don't think she could have allowed that).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 03:06:53 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 03:07:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfzINMaeqM                   This is so funny!
::MonkeyLaugh:: I will never be able to watch Mr. Ed again without thinking of Casey.
Me either, and the more he said horse, the more she looked like one! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm sorry for the mix up with my email addy, have you been able to get the right one from one of the mods? ::MonkeyConfused::
No,  the one I got keeps sending the mail back to me....If Klaas wants she can send you mine also....
That would be great if Klass wants to send me your email addy, thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 03:07:42 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?

first..I'm medically illiterate..

Would the bones float once the tissue had decayed away ???

No, not really so I feel there is a reason they were scattered, but I can't determine why or how unless someone just went there and threw them around. I am doing some research on this, so I will let you know if I can find a plausible reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 02, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: LIMomof3 on January 02, 2009, 03:10:01 PM
Does anyone know if they made KC take a drug test, I know not all drugs will show up after a certain amount of time but I know others stay in your hair for years. Just curious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 02, 2009, 03:10:38 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.  

LP has not EVER said or done ANYTHING disrespectful of Tim nor TES.  You have this backwards.  

IMO LP has always been about finding Caylee.  When he first bailed Casey out, LP stated that he was doing it because he thought when she got out of jail that she would point the way to find Caylee.  I really think that he thought she had given a live child to someone to punish Cindy.  Then when she wouldn't cooperate, he came to the realization that indeed Caylee was deceased, like most of us.  It was then that he was able to "see" the dynamics of this family and how they were "covering" for Casey.   This is when he became a thorn in all their sides.  If you are distracted by what LP says and does, then just ignore him  How can he be a detriment to this case?  He can't.  He stated on CNN yesterday that when he saw that footage he immediately called Nick Savage of the FBI and they confiscated Hoover's phone, still pictures and camera.  They evidently didn't know about it till then....so did LP help or not?

This is my opinion, and mine alone.  Everyone is entitled to their own.  We just need to be working off the same facts.  Thanks, Bev


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 03:11:10 PM
I was just reading CA's mothers transript to the police.

She said that after the nursing home visit, CA and Caylee went to her house and had chilli...  ::MonkeyNoNo::  That's so sad, that was probably Caylee's last meal.

She said that CA talked to KC everyday, but later in the transcript, she said when CA wasn't hearing from KC...that she went home from the nursing home one day and had a long message of jibberish of a childs voice.  Then it happened again a few days later.  If CA talked to KC everyday, why would shirley say, "during the time CA wasn't hearing from KC"... I think she slipped up. 

Shirley said that CA took a weeks vaca and was supposed to visit w/mother in law and go to beach... but hung around each day cause KC said she was bringing Caylee by..  another week or two would go by and CA would take more vaca time for the same reason..never went anywhere, and did work in her yard. 

If Shirley asked CA anything about the problems with KC....CA would get to upset to talk about it... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 03:11:31 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

With her age (moreso her lack of maturity), and caring only about herself and her own wants and needs, I think it's very likely she could have gone off on Caylee like that, even if she were not on drugs.  People snap.  She obviously was detached from Caylee in many ways, and she obviously hated the fact her mom seemed to only care about Caylee, and not herself.  If there were an argument, and Cindy tried to strangle her, damn straight Casey could have been pi$$ed off enough to snap. Especially if Caylee was upset and crying and Casey wasn't able to calm her down.  Casey probably blamed her mom and Caylee for everything going wrong in her life. Taking off would have been the easy way to get away from Cindy, but killing Caylee would have been (in her mind) the only way to get away from Caylee.  (If she would have left Caylee with Cindy, she would have had to admit she sucked as a mother. That her mom was right all along.. I don't think she could have allowed that).

I agree.........it may not about drugs at all, but one of the things I noticed was she got very little sleep. She was up all hours of the night talking and texting, then up all day, so she was using something which I have always suspected to be meth. or crack. Both are cheap, flow like water in clubs and the symptoms of their use parallel exactly with her personality trails the last year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:11:32 PM
I don't think any men are doing the abusing in the A family.  George is scared sh**less of Cindy, and she's got him by the short and curlies!

Lisa

What's he scared of, that she'll quit her job and stop supporting him? If she were the abuser, she already would have done so years ago.

She wouldn't be the one supporting him and letting him get away with gambling away her retirement money and her whole income. Don't be fooled by George. When he talks about Cindy he makes it sound like everything he does is for her, but he's actually saying, "everything is really Cindy's fault." And people believe it because he's attractive for his age and sounds sincere. He has no feelings for her and no interest in his family at all, and this shows in the photos and in their past history.

We know he cheats on her, we know that when he got his workman's comp he didn't pay back $ he'd taken from her account, nor did he use any of it to help Caylee or either of their kids. He left. Then he came back because he was out of money. And for some reason she took him back. Why? 

It's Cindy, not George, who has weird bruises, takes some kind of weird drugs or painkillers for god knows what, and who went to a counselor. The victim goes into counseling, not the perpetrator, because the victim wants to know how to not be so unhappy, maybe get him to stop abusing her so much...We've seen George's temper. We know he abused his father. Don't tell me he's the one scared of Cindy. A guy who throws his boss/Dad through a window isn't going to take abuse from his little 5'2" wife lying down.


We've seen Cindy leading George around and he seemingly agree to that, for whatever reason.  Yet we've also seen George's temper, as with the protestors, the media, and those who set up cameras in his yard.  It seems to me that at times George and Cindy take turns being the big, bad boss in that family, although George does seem to back down to Cindy much of the time.  My point is, George has shown an anger, rage actually.  We don't know *for certain* that George has physically abused his father, altho we do have it on good authority that he did.  Even tho he appears much of the time to be following Cindy around like a lil puppy, I think he's very capable of uncontrolled rage.  Sometimes this happens with folks who are squashed into their corners time after time, who allow that feeling powerless, at some point they just may come flying out with both barrels cocked, and everyone near best take cover.
 

That right there shows he doesn't abuse her.  I was in an abusive relationship for over 6 years.  Trust me, when you fear getting beaten, you don't upstage the abuser.  George's rage comes from his lack of control and lack of power.  He is a whipped man!

Lisa

Not all women are that afraid of an abuser all the time. Many will stand up occasionally and when they do the "serial abuser" will hurt them in places which can't be seen. They get smarter with age and don't hit where it leaves a visible mark.

I see him as a violent man, and it very well may get KC the story she needs for trial.

ITA, turbo. I was abused by a man who in the end, threw me from a moving car, broke my jaw and my hip. I got daily beatings, for about three years. He wouldn't work, and any mention of that fact, on any level, or any perceived reference to it, got me a punch in the stomach. But he deferred to me in public. He appeared to put me on a pedestal. In public, with people around, I was sort of the boss. So I don't think it means anything that George seems somewhat deferential. A lot of men step back and let the woman deal with people, because they don't want to be bothered. It's not being whipped, it's just not being interested.

It's true that as abusers get older they hit less visible places, and I remember Cindy could not seem to sit in that chair at the police station. At the time I watched I thought her fidgeting seemed so random, not really a sign of lying, because it didn't seem to have anything to do with the conversation at all. She also sat strangely. It annoyed me because there was no rhyme or reason to it. Maybe she just couldn't sit comfortably because she was bruised under those shorts and that very loose t-shirt?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
Hey Monkeys, I would just like to say something about the incest controversy.

I do not believe George molested Casey. Lee possibly, but I rather doubt it.

I think Casey lives/lived in a fantasy world. She is a liar. She told Jesse the incest story to get ATTENTION. Do we know in what context and setting this was told? Was she fighting with Lee at the time she told Jesse. Liars will lie to make a person feel sorry for them, to make the person they are telling HATE whomever the lie was about. Liars will like about anything to make themselves look good and the person they are lying about look horrible. JMO Peace out JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 03:13:34 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:13:44 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.  

LP has not EVER said or done ANYTHING disrespectful of Tim nor TES.  You have this backwards. 

IMO LP has always been about finding Caylee.  When he first bailed Casey out, LP stated that he was doing it because he thought when she got out of jail that she would point the way to find Caylee.  I really think that he thought she had given a live child to someone to punish Cindy.  Then when she wouldn't cooperate, he came to the realization that indeed Caylee was deceased, like most of us.  It was then that he was able to "see" the dynamics of this family and how they were "covering" for Casey.   This is when he became a thorn in all their sides.  If you are distracted by what LP says and does, then just ignore him  How can he be a detriment to this case?  He can't.  He stated on CNN yesterday that when he saw that footage he immediately called Nick Savage of the FBI and they confiscated Hoover's phone, still pictures and camera.  They evidently didn't know about it till then....so did LP help or not?

This is my opinion, and mine alone.  Everyone is entitled to their own.  We just need to be working off the same facts.  Thanks, Bev

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 03:14:06 PM
Personally, I don't think there was abuse or incest in the Ant's house.  I think KC was always a spoiled rotten brat that was always the center of attention.  When Caylee was born, much of the attention that had always been bestowed on KC was shifted to Caylee. I'm a grandmother and I know how easy it is to go nuts over the grandchildren and sometimes forget how important their parents are.  Most adult children love for their children to get attention from the grandparents....but most adult children are "normal."  In addition to suddenly being overlooked by her parents, she suddenly had responsibilities that she had never had before.  She couldn't come and go at will and Caylee was now the center of attention.  Caylee never wanted to even admit she was pregnant, much less have the responsibility of raising a baby.  But...CA, at her age, probably felt the overwhelming urge to have a baby in the house once again and insisted KC keep the baby.  CA wanted to be not a grandmother, but a mother to Caylee.  KC was shoved even further back on the burner and just couldn't handle it.  I'm sure there were times that CA would refuse to watch Caylee, as she wanted to keep KC home.  So...KC saw ridding herself of Caylee as the way out of all of her problems.  She would be the center of attention again....of not only her parents but of all the guys.  No baby....no issues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt. ::MonkeyConfused::
LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.  

LP has not EVER said or done ANYTHING disrespectful of Tim nor TES.  You have this backwards.  

IMO LP has always been about finding Caylee.  When he first bailed Casey out, LP stated that he was doing it because he thought when she got out of jail that she would point the way to find Caylee.  I really think that he thought she had given a live child to someone to punish Cindy.  Then when she wouldn't cooperate, he came to the realization that indeed Caylee was deceased, like most of us.  It was then that he was able to "see" the dynamics of this family and how they were "covering" for Casey.   This is when he became a thorn in all their sides.  If you are distracted by what LP says and does, then just ignore him  How can he be a detriment to this case?  He can't.  He stated on CNN yesterday that when he saw that footage he immediately called Nick Savage of the FBI and they confiscated Hoover's phone, still pictures and camera.  They evidently didn't know about it till then....so did LP help or not?

This is my opinion, and mine alone.  Everyone is entitled to their own.  We just need to be working off the same facts.  Thanks, Bev

I totally agree with you Bev and I don't believe this case would be anywhere close to where it is today without LP's help.  I believe when it is all over, he will have contributed much more than anyone realizes now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 03:16:25 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.

Exactly, and the larger animals eat the bones. There is just something funky about those scattered little bones to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: ShariVari on January 02, 2009, 03:18:07 PM

I got into a relationship with someone and later realized that I did not want a ready-made family.  We dated for two years and even lived together, he had full custody of his daughter, which is unusual...mom was/is a total basketcase.  As much as I cared for his daughter, and maybe it was just because I was an only child, myself....plus twelve years catholic school....I eventually realized that I could not cope with raising someone else's child.  People held me accountable for the actions of a child that I had not raised, as if I were her mother.  Meanwhile, her real mother is not paying child support when she only has to pay a meager amount every month.  After I found MYSELF paying for child care for someone else's kid at 24, I gave up.

My point is:  falling in love and caring about people is not all cut and dry.  I will never date another person with a child from a previous relationship, I learned my lesson.  I still care about the little girl, and it sucks that we have no contact after I pretty much was 50% of a parenting team for 2 years.  You really never can tell what you've signed up for until you experience it.  Tony was just being honest with Casey about his plans for kids, I think he tried to tell Casey all along that he wasn't all that serious.  Problem is, a girl like Casey loves the chase.  When Tony was joking about moving back to NY, Casey cried and acted all bitchy.  She did this to a guy she had dated for A MONTH!  She wouldn't have liked Tony as much if he hadn't kept trying to keep his distance, IMO.  I will get off my soapbox now.


I'm sorry if I offended you, Shari. You're right, though. It's never cut and dry.
oh no, no offense taken.  I feel bad for Tony Lazzaro because I'm sure he's wondered how much of this would've happened had he not dated Casey or voiced his opinion about the kids he'd like to have someday.  I am  more likely to pin the "selfish" tag on Casey.  She was the mother with a child to look after, she should have found herself a single dad and put her priorities where they should have gone...on her daughter.  IMO, Casey had no business trying to date a fancy-free college student.  I think Tony has every right to talk about his nonexistent children.  After all, he didn't get to voice HIS opinion on the fact that Casey was having a kid.  But heck, Tony's a 21 year old kid, I'm sure he's already had numerous bimbos since Case-face hit the slammer.  I don't really understand what she had to offer as a girlfriend to him except booty. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 03:18:57 PM
So what I am thinking......animals would have no interest in dry bones.  That would mean in order for the bones to be scattered by animals, the body would have to be more or less intact which would blow the theory that Casey drove around with the body in the trunk of the car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:19:04 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I think this is exactly why Casey killed Caylee - Freedom.  I don't think she was going to kill Cindy.  Cindy wasn't at all interested in Casey except for the fact that she had Caylee.  I believe in Casey's warped mind - Killing Caylee would not only free her from the burden of a child, but also from the burden of her mother's interference in her life.

I also think she was warped or dumb or naive enough to believe that everyone would believe her story.  Nanny stole the baby ... search for a while ... no leads ... case goes cold ... Casey's free.  (And ... I think ... if she was really searching missing children's sites ... this is exactly why ... she was looking at past cases ... seeing how things were done when a child goes missing and remains missing for a long time.  She was doing a little prep for what to expect in her immediate future.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 03:19:25 PM

(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 

Anthony brought her gas evidently right in front of where she dumped Caylee, but she would not let him close to the car.

Am I understanding this correctly...
KC's car ran out of gas, at the exact spot where Caylee was found and Anthony brought her gas?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:24:15 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:26:23 PM
And I don't really buy into the incest or LA/GA might be Caylee's father.  Casey is just an amoral person, born that way, and certainly being raised by parents who in no way tried help guide her didn't help ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Does anyone know if JP Chatt has ever taken a paternity test?  I just have a hard time believing he's not Caylee's biological dad when I look at their pictures side by side.  But, if KC or CA knew who the father was, I have to believe they would have really pressed for child support.  Maybe the father knew of something incriminating on KC and threatened to expose her if she asked for money???  We know from KC's own words that she was "petrified" of CA. If someone else knew that, they could have easily intimidated KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 03:26:33 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


Wow...the look a lot alike side by side, from the forehead, to the eyebrows, to the eyes, nose, lips and chin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: ShariVari on January 02, 2009, 03:26:47 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

With her age (moreso her lack of maturity), and caring only about herself and her own wants and needs, I think it's very likely she could have gone off on Caylee like that, even if she were not on drugs.  People snap.  She obviously was detached from Caylee in many ways, and she obviously hated the fact her mom seemed to only care about Caylee, and not herself.  If there were an argument, and Cindy tried to strangle her, damn straight Casey could have been pi$$ed off enough to snap. Especially if Caylee was upset and crying and Casey wasn't able to calm her down.  Casey probably blamed her mom and Caylee for everything going wrong in her life. Taking off would have been the easy way to get away from Cindy, but killing Caylee would have been (in her mind) the only way to get away from Caylee.  (If she would have left Caylee with Cindy, she would have had to admit she sucked as a mother. That her mom was right all along.. I don't think she could have allowed that).

I agree.........it may not about drugs at all, but one of the things I noticed was she got very little sleep. She was up all hours of the night talking and texting, then up all day, so she was using something which I have always suspected to be meth. or crack. Both are cheap, flow like water in clubs and the symptoms of their use parallel exactly with her personality trails the last year.

I agree that Casey may have been abusing a stimulant.  However, not sure where u live, but here in Michigan, drugs are expensive. To keep up a drug habit, she'd have to be stealing, which she was.  I've always thought it was odd that she would party all night, then "appear to get ready for work in the morning and leave the house".  To me, having to pretend to go to work, is ten times worse than actually working!

I'd like to expand on what you said about Casey using speed and ask what u think of her being an escort, along with using hardcore drugs.  Makes sense to me...once someone gets all hopped up on speed...they want to do something...sometimes sex!  All that driving around all day long on drugs...after she partied all night on them...and only got 3-4 hours sleep. 

If this had been going on for awhile, no sleep and tons of drugs, how will that figure into her sanity at the trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:28:13 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: ShariVari on January 02, 2009, 03:29:00 PM
Does anyone know if JP Chatt has ever taken a paternity test?  I just have a hard time believing he's not Caylee's biological dad when I look at their pictures side by side.  But, if KC or CA knew who the father was, I have to believe they would have really pressed for child support.  Maybe the father knew of something incriminating on KC and threatened to expose her if she asked for money???  We know from KC's own words that she was "petrified" of CA. If someone else knew that, they could have easily intimidated KC.

hey that totally makes sense!!!  Bio dad could have blackmailed KC....
I will adopt this line of thinking as soon as we are told that Lee is not the father....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: pink angel on January 02, 2009, 03:29:30 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

You are correct. The math didn't add up. He couldn't be her father.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:31:38 PM
And I don't really buy into the incest or LA/GA might be Caylee's father.  Casey is just an amoral person, born that way, and certainly being raised by parents who in no way tried help guide her didn't help ...

And, she is a liar because C&G are liars, imo.    She wasn't taught that lying is unacceptable.   Can you imagine living in a house where everyone lies? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:34:17 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

With her age (moreso her lack of maturity), and caring only about herself and her own wants and needs, I think it's very likely she could have gone off on Caylee like that, even if she were not on drugs.  People snap.  She obviously was detached from Caylee in many ways, and she obviously hated the fact her mom seemed to only care about Caylee, and not herself.  If there were an argument, and Cindy tried to strangle her, damn straight Casey could have been pi$$ed off enough to snap. Especially if Caylee was upset and crying and Casey wasn't able to calm her down.  Casey probably blamed her mom and Caylee for everything going wrong in her life. Taking off would have been the easy way to get away from Cindy, but killing Caylee would have been (in her mind) the only way to get away from Caylee.  (If she would have left Caylee with Cindy, she would have had to admit she sucked as a mother. That her mom was right all along.. I don't think she could have allowed that).

I agree.........it may not about drugs at all, but one of the things I noticed was she got very little sleep. She was up all hours of the night talking and texting, then up all day, so she was using something which I have always suspected to be meth. or crack. Both are cheap, flow like water in clubs and the symptoms of their use parallel exactly with her personality trails the last year.

I agree that Casey may have been abusing a stimulant.  However, not sure where u live, but here in Michigan, drugs are expensive. To keep up a drug habit, she'd have to be stealing, which she was.  I've always thought it was odd that she would party all night, then "appear to get ready for work in the morning and leave the house".  To me, having to pretend to go to work, is ten times worse than actually working!

I'd like to expand on what you said about Casey using speed and ask what u think of her being an escort, along with using hardcore drugs.  Makes sense to me...once someone gets all hopped up on speed...they want to do something...sometimes sex!  All that driving around all day long on drugs...after she partied all night on them...and only got 3-4 hours sleep. 

If this had been going on for awhile, no sleep and tons of drugs, how will that figure into her sanity at the trial?
Only she was dating two cops, they would know if she were a speed freak. I think KC was just a hyperactive, egotistical, slore that liked sex because it gave her control that she didn't have in any other aspect of her life. Plus she drove around all night because she had nowhere else to go. She couldn't go to Hopespring drive unless she had the baby and the baby was dead. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:35:04 PM
And I don't really buy into the incest or LA/GA might be Caylee's father.  Casey is just an amoral person, born that way, and certainly being raised by parents who in no way tried help guide her didn't help ...

And, she is a liar because C&G are liars, imo.    She wasn't taught that lying is unacceptable.   Can you imagine living in a house where everyone lies? 

Hi Sassy ~
And no, I can't.  It has to be a very tenuous, confusing and crazy environment.  OH YEAH ~ much like the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:35:46 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   
Exactly. You for Utah or Bama? GO TECH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 02, 2009, 03:36:11 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

You are correct. The math didn't add up. He couldn't be her father.



I wasn't sure but every now and then, I get lucky...

gotta run out for a bit but it should be fun catching up when I get back  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Anninflorida on January 02, 2009, 03:36:43 PM
Did GA and CA finally take a polygraph?  I think they did that fairly recently, right?  Was this voluntarily?  LA never took a polygraph but he did submit DNA samples when required by LE to do so???  Just trying to get things straight in my head.  Too much going on to keep up with...lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:39:51 PM
Did GA and CA finally take a polygraph?  I think they did that fairly recently, right?  Was this voluntarily?  LA never took a polygraph but he did submit DNA samples when required by LE to do so???  Just trying to get things straight in my head.  Too much going on to keep up with...lol!

I think they finally gave DNA ~ but I haven't heard anything about them taking a poly ... I highly doubt they would ... not until they get immunity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 03:42:00 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

That's what he says. But it's possible he's lying.
IF he is the father, (and this is one of those ifs like if there was incest, etc...) then he lied when he said he didn't know Casey back then.

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:42:41 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   
Exactly. You for Utah or Bama? GO TECH!

Husband went to Utah State - Raised in Utah/Nevada.    Bama will probably win, though!   
GO TECH!!!!!     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 03:42:58 PM
Did GA and CA finally take a polygraph?  I think they did that fairly recently, right?  Was this voluntarily?  LA never took a polygraph but he did submit DNA samples when required by LE to do so???  Just trying to get things straight in my head.  Too much going on to keep up with...lol!

I didn't see that they took one yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   
Exactly. You for Utah or Bama? GO TECH!

Husband went to Utah State - Raised in Utah/Nevada.    Bama will probably win, though!   
GO TECH!!!!!     
Well I hope Utah wins for you then. GO TECH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 03:47:26 PM
O/T
http://www.tmz.com/

John Travolta's Son Dies
Posted Jan 2nd 2009 3:10PM by TMZ Staff

Rand Memorial Hospital in the Bahamas tells TMZ the son of John Travolta died today.

We're told 16-year-old Jett was vacationing with Travolta and wife Kelly Preston. We do not know the circumstances of his death.

There have been reports that Jett was autistic, though Travolta has denied it, saying he suffers from Kawasaki Syndrome, a condition which often leads to heart disease.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:48:05 PM
Did GA and CA finally take a polygraph?  I think they did that fairly recently, right?  Was this voluntarily?  LA never took a polygraph but he did submit DNA samples when required by LE to do so???  Just trying to get things straight in my head.  Too much going on to keep up with...lol!

I didn't see that they took one yet.


I don't think any of the A's took a polygraph.   I doubt they ever will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 03:48:45 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
Her computer wasn't hacked. She was hopped up on goofballs and accidently sent them to Kathi B. I'm not sure about Sean K, I really didn't know that much about him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:50:28 PM
O/T
http://www.tmz.com/

John Travolta's Son Dies
Posted Jan 2nd 2009 3:10PM by TMZ Staff

Rand Memorial Hospital in the Bahamas tells TMZ the son of John Travolta died today.

We're told 16-year-old Jett was vacationing with Travolta and wife Kelly Preston. We do not know the circumstances of his death.

There have been reports that Jett was autistic, though Travolta has denied it, saying he suffers from Kawasaki Syndrome, a condition which often leads to heart disease.
How sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 03:50:57 PM
Interesting conversation today!
I need an Excel spreadsheet to figure all this out.
Here are the possibilities if Casey acted alone summing up from all we've talked about.
1. Motive
Narcissistic Personality disorder, needed to be center of attention
Sociopath, wanted to party and has no remorse
Anger, fight with parents over mothering style and responsibility
Revenge, hated her controlling mother
Incest, victimized and lashed out

2. Means
Drown, accident
Suffocated in the home, then removed her on the 15th or 16th
Choloformed in the trunk, evening of the 16th
Drugged in carseat and moved to trunk, added chloroform to keep her asleep OD
Killed in motel room, overdose of drugs

3. Disposal
She drove around with the baby double bagged in the trunk and flung her in the woods when the smell was overwhelming
She had a little ceremony at the pet graveyard
She had Lee dispose of the body for her and met her car at Amscot lot

4. Cover up
Made up kidnapping story, thought it would be believed and over in a day or so
Ran away to Tony's and stayed for 30 days, hiding
Covered tracks, disposed of toys and other items
Cleaned car, she didn't at all
Partied to find baby, and went on as life was normal while she could
She never came up with an alibi, she just moved on not trying very hard

5. Defense
Abused and confused after she confesses, begs for mercy
Denies and sticks with Nanny kidnapping story, hopes for mercy

6. Results
She gets death penalty
She gets life without parole
She gets mental institution
She gets acquited because doubt
None of the lawyers ever get paid but the publicity makes them more valuable
Cindy and George divorce
Zaneida sues and wins












Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:50:58 PM
O/T
http://www.tmz.com/

John Travolta's Son Dies
Posted Jan 2nd 2009 3:10PM by TMZ Staff

Rand Memorial Hospital in the Bahamas tells TMZ the son of John Travolta died today.

We're told 16-year-old Jett was vacationing with Travolta and wife Kelly Preston. We do not know the circumstances of his death.

There have been reports that Jett was autistic, though Travolta has denied it, saying he suffers from Kawasaki Syndrome, a condition which often leads to heart disease.

That's very sad. :(  (I have to wonder about the Autism thing. JT's brother did a movie about Autism.



http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/a_plea_from_hollywood_john_travolta_open_your_heart.phtml

Quote
On Friday, April 7th, Hollywood, Interrupted was treated to the Los Angeles premiere of "Normal People Scare Me" - a feature-length documentary about autism, co-directed by the high functioning autistic teenager Taylor Cross and his mother, Keri Bowers. The event was sponsored by an organization called Cure Autism Now (CAN) and the new magazine, The Autism Perspective (TAP).

    Travolta & Preston in Battlefield Earth

This enlightening film was produced by b-movie actor/director/producer and former special education teacher, Joey Travolta. Joey's brother and sister-in-law, "Battlefield Earth" co-stars John Travolta and his wife Kelly Preston, were not present.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jaggard19 on January 02, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I think this is exactly why Casey killed Caylee - Freedom.  I don't think she was going to kill Cindy.  Cindy wasn't at all interested in Casey except for the fact that she had Caylee.  I believe in Casey's warped mind - Killing Caylee would not only free her from the burden of a child, but also from the burden of her mother's interference in her life.

I also think she was warped or dumb or naive enough to believe that everyone would believe her story.  Nanny stole the baby ... search for a while ... no leads ... case goes cold ... Casey's free.  (And ... I think ... if she was really searching missing children's sites ... this is exactly why ... she was looking at past cases ... seeing how things were done when a child goes missing and remains missing for a long time.  She was doing a little prep for what to expect in her immediate future.)

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 03:54:53 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.
I don't know if he is dead, alive or the man in the moon. What I do believe is that KC doesn't know who he is and wanted to pin it on Jesse. Hahahaha KC, that didn't work. Reverand Grund fooled you! Make you take the DNA test to prove it. Pissed Cindy off too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 03:56:33 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
Her computer wasn't hacked. She was hopped up on goofballs and accidently sent them to Kathi B. I'm not sure about Sean K, I really didn't know that much about him.

You're funny!     ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wish Kathi had let us see the emails before she turned them over to the FBI, though.    I'm so nosey.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 03:56:58 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
Her computer wasn't hacked. She was hopped up on goofballs and accidently sent them to Kathi B. I'm not sure about Sean K, I really didn't know that much about him.
Yeah, and what's nice about this... is kathy reported this to the FBI and now the FBI can access her accounts...hehehehe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.
I don't know if he is dead, alive or the man in the moon. What I do believe is that KC doesn't know who he is and wanted to pin it on Jesse. Hahahaha KC, that didn't work. Reverand Grund fooled you! Make you take the DNA test to prove it. Pissed Cindy off too.

She probably wanted to pin it on Jesse for a number of reasons.. one of which could have been he was the only guy who gave a real $hit about her, you know? He wanted to marry her for crying out loud.  Why not trick the only guy who will probably ever care about her in any real way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 03:57:21 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   




 :smt045 I agree Sassycat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 03:58:15 PM

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Yea ~ I think that was just more of Casey trying to show her friends how "successful" she was ... you know, poor homeless Amy ... I'll be taking over the payments on my parents' home soon and I'll take you in ... I mean ... I work full-time ... have a nanny ... go to college ... etc etc etc ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: pegster57 on January 02, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
I always thought that KC and CA went with the June 9th date because thats the date that KC moved out and wanted to "bond" with Caylee. So, except for June 15th, it probably was the beginning of the end for CA.  I believe that KC slept at AMy/Ricardo's that week? Then Tony came back from his trip and she couldn't keep Caylee there overnight and she got in the big fight with CA on the 15th so she could hardly ask her. I think that after going a week without seeing grandma, Caylee freaked when KC tried to take her away again and it ticked her off. You can hear the jealousy in her interrogation when the det. asks her about Caylee's demeanor when she called her on July 15th (the fake phone call from Caylee) and he was astonished she wasn't crying and missing KC and KC was all pouty, like "well, if it had been my mom" and said that Caylee was never like that with her, even if she had been gone for days. CAYLEE NEVER MISSED KC. She probably taped her mouth shut because she could not stand to hear her cry for her REAL mommy and then held a pillow over her face to silence her permanently.
I go back and forth on whether I think chloroform was used in the murder. I am hoping we'll have another doc dump soon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 04:01:11 PM
TURBOTHINK
Did you see this http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4332.msg608546#msg608546 ?  Do you know anything about this other PI?

Scattered bones.  I wonder if any of the searchers or other person(s) when in the area when under water and stirred up the remains with a 4 wheeler, horse or something.  Since skull was still in bag I am assuming the bag was disturbed by something other than animal if no teeth marks on bones (is this verified? I haven't seen).  But, we all know what assuming does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 02, 2009, 04:01:25 PM
Well, JB has said repeatedly that only one side of this story has been heard so far.  So...Caylee is dead. All evidence points to the fact that KC killed her.  That evidence is LE's side of the story.  JB can't possibly expect anyone to believe the Nanny story any longer, so, if there is another side to this story that we haven't heard....KC must have a name for the killer.  Remember...JB says we have only heard one side and we have already heard about the Nanny.  I take this to mean there is someone else that KC will name.  Any ideas who that may be????

Casey Marie Anthony  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::
There is no one, imo, that she can name except herself. 

I agree with you about her being guilty!!! I'm just thinking that JB says we haven't heard "the other side" of this story.  Well, we have heard the Nanny story, so I'm wondering who this "other side" involves.  JB wouldn't be referring to KC, as he is defending her.

Honestly, Casey is gonna start throwin the family under the bus.  The nanny story is fiction, we all know that now.  So imo, if Baez and KC stick to the Nanny story, they are going down fast.    ::MonkeyDance::

I must agree!The Anthony's that cherish their freedom better start talking w/o Immunity or they to will suffer a fate of imprisonment!Rightfully so!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:02:06 PM

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Yea ~ I think that was just more of Casey trying to show her friends how "successful" she was ... you know, poor homeless Amy ... I'll be taking over the payments on my parents' home soon and I'll take you in ... I mean ... I work full-time ... have a nanny ... go to college ... etc etc etc ...

Could you imagine her trying to keep up this nanny charade while living with Amy? I mean.. her parents were idiots, sure enough.  And one could say Amy must have had her own problems if she believed Casey's sleep-walking story (in where she "lost" her $400 in cash).   But surely Amy would have questioned Casey more about this nanny? I would have to believe she would have wanted to meet her, get to know her, etc...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
ITA, turbo. I was abused by a man who in the end, threw me from a moving car, broke my jaw and my hip. I got daily beatings, for about three years. He wouldn't work, and any mention of that fact, on any level, or any perceived reference to it, got me a punch in the stomach. But he deferred to me in public. He appeared to put me on a pedestal. In public, with people around, I was sort of the boss. So I don't think it means anything that George seems somewhat deferential. A lot of men step back and let the woman deal with people, because they don't want to be bothered. It's not being whipped, it's just not being interested.

It's true that as abusers get older they hit less visible places, and I remember Cindy could not seem to sit in that chair at the police station. At the time I watched I thought her fidgeting seemed so random, not really a sign of lying, because it didn't seem to have anything to do with the conversation at all. She also sat strangely. It annoyed me because there was no rhyme or reason to it. Maybe she just couldn't sit comfortably because she was bruised under those shorts and that very loose t-shirt?


I'm so sorry for your bad years in suffering. Glad you got out. ITA abusers will be so charming in public. And the victim usually forgives and the cycle goes on again and again until someone usually leaves or dies. I can picture George the ex-cop coming from a long line of abusers. And Cindy seems like the perfect enabler.

And Caseys role was to leave and be free. That's not an easy thing to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 04:02:36 PM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!

Just want to say... Good job, both of you, in arriving at a peaceful solution.   :smt023



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 02, 2009, 04:03:24 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

That's what he says. But it's possible he's lying.
IF he is the father, (and this is one of those ifs like if there was incest, etc...) then he lied when he said he didn't know Casey back then.

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?




I always thought this guy could be a candidate for daddy.......



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:05:16 PM

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Yea ~ I think that was just more of Casey trying to show her friends how "successful" she was ... you know, poor homeless Amy ... I'll be taking over the payments on my parents' home soon and I'll take you in ... I mean ... I work full-time ... have a nanny ... go to college ... etc etc etc ...

Could you imagine her trying to keep up this nanny charade while living with Amy? I mean.. her parents were idiots, sure enough.  And one could say Amy must have had her own problems if she believed Casey's sleep-walking story (in where she "lost" her $400 in cash).   But surely Amy would have questioned Casey more about this nanny? I would have to believe she would have wanted to meet her, get to know her, etc...
I remember Amy's interview where she said she kept trying to meet GA & CA ~ since she was going to be living in the house with Caylee she thought they would probably want to meet her ~ and Casey kept coming up with excuses ...

I don't know why Amy would think GA & CA would need to meet her just because she would be living with Caylee ... for heaven sake ... Caylee had a nanny for 2 years and they never made a point to meet her!  Losers the whole lot of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 04:06:01 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

You are correct. The math didn't add up. He couldn't be her father.



I wasn't sure but every now and then, I get lucky...

gotta run out for a bit but it should be fun catching up when I get back  ::MonkeyRoll::


 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 04:06:39 PM
I always thought that KC and CA went with the June 9th date because thats the date that KC moved out and wanted to "bond" with Caylee. So, except for June 15th, it probably was the beginning of the end for CA.  I believe that KC slept at AMy/Ricardo's that week? Then Tony came back from his trip and she couldn't keep Caylee there overnight and she got in the big fight with CA on the 15th so she could hardly ask her. I think that after going a week without seeing grandma, Caylee freaked when KC tried to take her away again and it ticked her off. You can hear the jealousy in her interrogation when the det. asks her about Caylee's demeanor when she called her on July 15th (the fake phone call from Caylee) and he was astonished she wasn't crying and missing KC and KC was all pouty, like "well, if it had been my mom" and said that Caylee was never like that with her, even if she had been gone for days. CAYLEE NEVER MISSED KC. She probably taped her mouth shut because she could not stand to hear her cry for her REAL mommy and then held a pillow over her face to silence her permanently.
I go back and forth on whether I think chloroform was used in the murder. I am hoping we'll have another doc dump soon!

Me too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:07:53 PM

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Yea ~ I think that was just more of Casey trying to show her friends how "successful" she was ... you know, poor homeless Amy ... I'll be taking over the payments on my parents' home soon and I'll take you in ... I mean ... I work full-time ... have a nanny ... go to college ... etc etc etc ...

Could you imagine her trying to keep up this nanny charade while living with Amy? I mean.. her parents were idiots, sure enough.  And one could say Amy must have had her own problems if she believed Casey's sleep-walking story (in where she "lost" her $400 in cash).   But surely Amy would have questioned Casey more about this nanny? I would have to believe she would have wanted to meet her, get to know her, etc...
I remember Amy's interview where she said she kept trying to meet GA & CA ~ since she was going to be living in the house with Caylee she thought they would probably want to meet her ~ and Casey kept coming up with excuses ...

I don't know why Amy would think GA & CA would need to meet her just because she would be living with Caylee ... for heaven sake ... Caylee had a nanny for 2 years and they never made a point to meet her!  Losers the whole lot of them!

She might think they want to meet her, but obviously not the other way around. She obviously cares about making a good impression... she obviously cares about Casey's family, and wanting them to make sure she's a decent enough person to have Caylee around. It's not her fault this family is so screwy that THEY don't seem to care who Caylee's around!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

You know.. it's so hard to see pictures of a beautiful, smiling Caylee, knowing what we know.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 04:09:23 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
O/T
http://www.tmz.com/

John Travolta's Son Dies
Posted Jan 2nd 2009 3:10PM by TMZ Staff

Rand Memorial Hospital in the Bahamas tells TMZ the son of John Travolta died today.

We're told 16-year-old Jett was vacationing with Travolta and wife Kelly Preston. We do not know the circumstances of his death.

There have been reports that Jett was autistic, though Travolta has denied it, saying he suffers from Kawasaki Syndrome, a condition which often leads to heart disease.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: How sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 02, 2009, 04:10:48 PM

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?



I know when people commented on the likeness of my husband and his older daughter he would say that she was not his. He only slept with her mother once (and he said he never even put it in!) and could not believe that after 13 years she could be his. Perhaps this is the way JP is dealing with the possibility prior to this whole situation.   Now that the poop has hit the fan, he finds it just easier to say nothing. Or he may know he is the father because LE had him do a DNA test and he just is staying out of the limelight - weird compared to the rest of the group I know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
Her computer wasn't hacked. She was hopped up on goofballs and accidently sent them to Kathi B. I'm not sure about Sean K, I really didn't know that much about him.

You're funny!     ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wish Kathi had let us see the emails before she turned them over to the FBI, though.    I'm so nosey.


Me too! I am so nosey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:13:15 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.
I don't know if he is dead, alive or the man in the moon. What I do believe is that KC doesn't know who he is and wanted to pin it on Jesse. Hahahaha KC, that didn't work. Reverand Grund fooled you! Make you take the DNA test to prove it. Pissed Cindy off too.

She probably wanted to pin it on Jesse for a number of reasons.. one of which could have been he was the only guy who gave a real $hit about her, you know? He wanted to marry her for crying out loud.  Why not trick the only guy who will probably ever care about her in any real way?
Exactly my thoughts pretty kitty!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.

Dolce I agree completely.....I really thinks even casey doesn't know for sure.....and I also think cindy wants to believe it is the guy who died.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 02, 2009, 04:13:53 PM
I am throwing this out there for comsumption only:

It was said on here that Cindy was living with someone when George left after Caylee was born.  Could the hostility of Cindy and KC come from the fact that Mom had a boyfriend and maybe that boyfriend and KC got together and Caylee is the product of that?  That would explain why Cindy wouldn't let her abort the baby, would explain why George left after Caylee was born and almost resulted in divorce.  I can see KC holding this over Mom and Dad's heads for the rest of their lives.  (JMO)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:14:23 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
Her computer wasn't hacked. She was hopped up on goofballs and accidently sent them to Kathi B. I'm not sure about Sean K, I really didn't know that much about him.
Yeah, and what's nice about this... is kathy reported this to the FBI and now the FBI can access her accounts...hehehehe
  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blaze on January 02, 2009, 04:18:44 PM
This is a snip from another article:

"Apparently rumors have been floating around that Jesus Ortiz is the father of Caylee Anthony. He died in a car accident a year ago. The Ortiz family knows nothing about Caylee, but have hired an attorney and requested that the DNA be tested for a match."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:19:05 PM
I live in an area with raccoons, possums, etc.  Room mate takes all the leftovers out to stump for the animals.  None of the bones are ever left, they tend to take them back to where they live.
A lot of times they take them away. I live in apartments but there are opposums, racoons, snakes, and even coyotes that live in a field across from me.

Joe finds bones all the time that some animal has left as there is no reason for an animal bone being in the parking lot. I make him spit it out and then I pick it up and throw it on top of the carport. Two, three days later the same bone is yards away and we go through it all over again. Maybe racoons got up on the carport, birds maybe I don't know. But they do get scattered is what I am trying to say as I am watching football. Go TECH

I'm watching that game too - and getting ready for the Utah/Alabama game!

To me, the fact that the bones were scattered over an acre proves that the body was out there for a while.   
Exactly. You for Utah or Bama? GO TECH!

Husband went to Utah State - Raised in Utah/Nevada.    Bama will probably win, though!  
GO TECH!!!!!    

ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 02, 2009, 04:20:49 PM

I always thought this guy could be a candidate for daddy.......

I have always agreed to that. If the Daddy is someone we have seen in photos, then it is this guy. Just my opinion, but damn they look alike.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 04:21:01 PM
I am throwing this out there for comsumption only:

It was said on here that Cindy was living with someone when George left after Caylee was born.  Could the hostility of Cindy and KC come from the fact that Mom had a boyfriend and maybe that boyfriend and KC got together and Caylee is the product of that?  That would explain why Cindy wouldn't let her abort the baby, would explain why George left after Caylee was born and almost resulted in divorce.  I can see KC holding this over Mom and Dad's heads for the rest of their lives.  (JMO)


That's an interesting thought.   Do we know when Cindy started living with the other man?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!

Just want to say... Good job, both of you, in arriving at a peaceful solution.   :smt023


LOL...there is no need to argue or have hard feeling because people think differently, have different opinions, or see/analyze information differently....that what makes SM so great!!  We are allowed to express those differences....it's up to all of us to act like adults about it and understand the differences are just that....differences....MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:21:54 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:22:03 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:23:17 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.
Do you have a frontal view picture of his face? I see his cheekbones match Caylee along with his eyes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 04:23:31 PM

I always thought this guy could be a candidate for daddy.......

I have always agreed to that. If the Daddy is someone we have seen in photos, then it is this guy. Just my opinion, but dmn they look alike.

They do look alike.   Has anyone ever figured out his identity?    Is he a cousin?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 04:23:31 PM
I'd still like to know a little more about the fiasco with the alleged hacking of Cindy's computer, what the emails said that Kathi B received and gave to the FBI, and the falling out between Sean K and Cindy. 
That completely disappeared, we haven't heard anything about that, just that it happened. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:26:32 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.
I don't know blurry, I read something about this last week. I had never heard that before either. Maybe it was the guy that was gazing into Cindy's eyes with George looking on in the picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 04:26:34 PM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!

Just want to say... Good job, both of you, in arriving at a peaceful solution.   :smt023




 :smt052 Wyks,life is good in the cage isn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 04:28:27 PM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!

Just want to say... Good job, both of you, in arriving at a peaceful solution.   :smt023


LOL...there is no need to argue or have hard feeling because people think differently, have different opinions, or see/analyze information differently....that what makes SM so great!!  We are allowed to express those differences....it's up to all of us to act like adults about it and understand the differences are just that....differences....MonkeyWink::
Yep, that's why I love SM. We all feed each other and solve mysteries and that takes differences and makes us cool.

LP and Tim and the incest things always brings out some strong opinions and we still keep it civil. I really appreciate everyone's thoughts, opinions and postings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 04:28:33 PM

But don't forget, according to Casey, Cindy and George were divorcing and GIVING the house to Casey AND Amy was supposed to move in with Casey to share expenses! 



Yea ~ I think that was just more of Casey trying to show her friends how "successful" she was ... you know, poor homeless Amy ... I'll be taking over the payments on my parents' home soon and I'll take you in ... I mean ... I work full-time ... have a nanny ... go to college ... etc etc etc ...

Could you imagine her trying to keep up this nanny charade while living with Amy? I mean.. her parents were idiots, sure enough.  And one could say Amy must have had her own problems if she believed Casey's sleep-walking story (in where she "lost" her $400 in cash).   But surely Amy would have questioned Casey more about this nanny? I would have to believe she would have wanted to meet her, get to know her, etc...
I remember Amy's interview where she said she kept trying to meet GA & CA ~ since she was going to be living in the house with Caylee she thought they would probably want to meet her ~ and Casey kept coming up with excuses ...

I don't know why Amy would think GA & CA would need to meet her just because she would be living with Caylee ... for heaven sake ... Caylee had a nanny for 2 years and they never made a point to meet her!  Losers the whole lot of them!


Amen Newfie! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 04:28:38 PM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...

As I've said before, I grew up in Sacramento, living there for over 40 years, before moving out here to Nebraska.  I knew LP from living in that town, know his reputation, and groaned out loud when I first heard that he was getting involved in this case.  My sons know of him and laffed at his audacity.  LP is NOT the "godfather of bounty hunters", nor is he "world known".  IMO, and likely that of many who lives in or has lived in Sacramento, LP is an embarrassment, a legend in his own mind.  Not to mention that he has run for mayor sev. times and been beaten down each time.  Does anyone seriously think if he was all that beloved, that this would have happened so many times?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Yes, he's sexy, I'll give JJ that.  Altho Rob is hotter.  hehe   ::MonkeyHaHa::  And yes, they do make a good team, in what they've done in the past.  But the acclaim that some have for him is not the wide opinion of those in Sacramento.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just saying... again. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:29:39 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.
I don't know blurry, I read something about this last week. I had never heard that before either. Maybe it was the guy that was gazing into Cindy's eyes with George looking on in the picture.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: do you really think an ex would embrace her like that in front of GA? How was it discovered she had an ex???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:30:24 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:32:52 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)


thanks Klaas.....i hope she is  ::MonkeyWink::fair and balanced ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
Thanks, JSM.  If anyone has more info on the situation, please fill me in.  It's snoopy of me, but the whole separation/reconciliation thing has me puzzled.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.
I don't know blurry, I read something about this last week. I had never heard that before either. Maybe it was the guy that was gazing into Cindy's eyes with George looking on in the picture.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: do you really think an ex would embrace her like that in front of GA? How was it discovered she had an ex???
I don't know if it is an ex or not. I was wondering the same thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.
I don't know if he is dead, alive or the man in the moon. What I do believe is that KC doesn't know who he is and wanted to pin it on Jesse. Hahahaha KC, that didn't work. Reverand Grund fooled you! Make you take the DNA test to prove it. Pissed Cindy off too.

She probably wanted to pin it on Jesse for a number of reasons.. one of which could have been he was the only guy who gave a real $hit about her, you know? He wanted to marry her for crying out loud.  Why not trick the only guy who will probably ever care about her in any real way?
Exactly my thoughts pretty kitty!


If Jesse had stayed in the picture,maybe Caylee would still be here. Casey makes me sick.The whole family makes me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:35:56 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?

It was in one of their local newspapers. I believe the link is on topix somewhere, as that is where I clicked on it and read that they had denied his paternity and the DNA was conclusive.  



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:36:56 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 04:38:27 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:38:35 PM
 
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do you really think an ex would embrace her like that in front of GA? How was it discovered she had an ex???

That photo creeped me out too.  He looks pretty young for her, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:40:17 PM
Thanks, JSM.  If anyone has more info on the situation, please fill me in.  It's snoopy of me, but the whole separation/reconciliation thing has me puzzled.
I'm puzzled too. I wish I knew.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 04:40:31 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?

It was in one of their local newspapers. I believe the link is on topix somewhere, as that is where I clicked on it and read that they had denied his paternity and the DNA was conclusive.  



Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:40:37 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

Well, I will give her one thing..........if it is the picture I am thinking of, he was HOT looking. I would leave GA any day for him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 04:40:38 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:41:16 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
Given that this is Casey we are talking about here - this is my theory on the Father of Caylee.

At the time of birth Casey was still hoping to pin the responsibility on Jesse, so she did not put the name of the father on the Birth Certificate.

When it came out that Jesse was not the father, I am sure that eyebrows were raised in her family and instead of looking foolish she used the convenient fact that a former hookup had died in an accident and pinned it on him. 

I do not think that Casey knows who the father is any more than the rest of us.  I do however think that Cindy believes that it was the guy who died, atleast I think that she has to believe that for her own peace of mind as we all know she is one who enjoys the state of denial.
I don't know if he is dead, alive or the man in the moon. What I do believe is that KC doesn't know who he is and wanted to pin it on Jesse. Hahahaha KC, that didn't work. Reverand Grund fooled you! Make you take the DNA test to prove it. Pissed Cindy off too.

She probably wanted to pin it on Jesse for a number of reasons.. one of which could have been he was the only guy who gave a real $hit about her, you know? He wanted to marry her for crying out loud.  Why not trick the only guy who will probably ever care about her in any real way?
Exactly my thoughts pretty kitty!


If Jesse had stayed in the picture,maybe Caylee would still be here. Casey makes me sick.The whole family makes me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I agree. Completely


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 04:41:39 PM
Hi Monks!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have never bought into the incest angles, I think Crazy is just a liar, narcissistic sociopath who doesn't give a crap about anyone but herself. In most of her pics with Caylee, it looks like she is competing with the baby for cuteness and attention..ugh
I have alwaysbelieved JP is the dad,and either Spindy or Crazy lied about paternity for their own selfish reasons. Neither thought about Caylee, and her right to know her dad, have a relationship with him and be supported by him, financially and emotionally.
As far as LP & TM, LP loves the camera, he is a showman. I like him but find him unreliable. TM is serious, driven by his heart and has his imperfections because he is human, but IMO he is for the families because he walks in those shoes..


I thought the timeline made it impossible for JP to be the father?? didn't they only meet a few months (5 I think) before Caylee was born ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

That's what he says. But it's possible he's lying.
IF he is the father, (and this is one of those ifs like if there was incest, etc...) then he lied when he said he didn't know Casey back then.

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?




I always thought this guy could be a candidate for daddy.......



Me, too, but he also swears he didn't know her back then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:42:03 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?

It was in one of their local newspapers. I believe the link is on topix somewhere, as that is where I clicked on it and read that they had denied his paternity and the DNA was conclusive.  


Thanks Turbo, I had never heard that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:42:12 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?

It was in one of their local newspapers. I believe the link is on topix somewhere, as that is where I clicked on it and read that they had denied his paternity and the DNA was conclusive.  



Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:43:12 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

thanks Today....I am search illiterate...but hope a smart monkey will be able to find it.  JANET WHERE ARE YOU!!!!
Boo....I have caught your CRUD!~ ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 04:43:12 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM

FUNNY!!!!      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:43:49 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

thanks lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/02/12/Jesus_Ortiz_(21)_died_from_injuries_sustained_in_an_automobile_accident

The above is a link to whom there has been rumors to be Caylee's father.  Jesus Ortiz.  - It talks about the accident.

I don't know where it is now, but his family gave LE something for his DNA and she was NOT his.

thanks Turbo...I don't recall hearing this but am glad to read it. I think it is horrible to blame a dead guy who can't speak up. But would expect nothing more from casey.  I am glad his parents were able to speak for him.
When did it come out she wasn't his? I know his family said they didn't think so, but I never heard it was fact? Anyone know?

It was in one of their local newspapers. I believe the link is on topix somewhere, as that is where I clicked on it and read that they had denied his paternity and the DNA was conclusive.  



Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.
He wouldn't have rights to the remains if he wasn't on the birth certificate. Or would he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 04:45:17 PM
Can the bio dad give up his rights to Caylee's remains?  I have a feeling no one, including Casey, know who the dad is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:45:52 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM

FUNNY!!!!      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
She will kill me if she reads this Sassy.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 04:46:20 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:47:21 PM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...

As I've said before, I grew up in Sacramento, living there for over 40 years, before moving out here to Nebraska.  I knew LP from living in that town, know his reputation, and groaned out loud when I first heard that he was getting involved in this case.  My sons know of him and laffed at his audacity.  LP is NOT the "godfather of bounty hunters", nor is he "world known".  IMO, and likely that of many who lives in or has lived in Sacramento, LP is an embarrassment, a legend in his own mind.  Not to mention that he has run for mayor sev. times and been beaten down each time.  Does anyone seriously think if he was all that beloved, that this would have happened so many times?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Yes, he's sexy, I'll give JJ that.  Altho Rob is hotter.  hehe   ::MonkeyHaHa::  And yes, they do make a good team, in what they've done in the past.  But the acclaim that some have for him is not the wide opinion of those in Sacramento.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just saying... again. 


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....



The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.


The e-mail stated:


"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::


He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:47:31 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.
Rick the brother?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:48:53 PM
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Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
o/t Klass when you have a moment could I have Higher Hope's email addy. Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 04:50:24 PM
Can the bio dad give up his rights to Caylee's remains?  I have a feeling no one, including Casey, know who the dad is.

I guess, but since LE knew, they would have to notify him, and have that done BEFORE they could notify the grandparents and both them and KC were notified within minutes of each other, so that leads me to believe LP was right all along about the father.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.

Thanks....and IMO that info came from casey....and it could be like the story she told that the A's were divorcing and giving her the house. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 04:52:16 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.
Rick the brother?

Yes Rick the brother, I have seen pictures of him, so I'm sure it wasn't him.  Cindy does have 2 other brothers.  I just don't think it a picture of Cindy's live in, for a variety of reasons, but that is MHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Fuzzball on January 02, 2009, 04:52:22 PM

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?



I know when people commented on the likeness of my husband and his older daughter he would say that she was not his. He only slept with her mother once (and he said he never even put it in!) and could not believe that after 13 years she could be his. Perhaps this is the way JP is dealing with the possibility prior to this whole situation.   Now that the poop has hit the fan, he finds it just easier to say nothing. Or he may know he is the father because LE had him do a DNA test and he just is staying out of the limelight - weird compared to the rest of the group I know!

IMO, it's better to have no Dad at all, than one who denies having you, resents supporting you, and is annoyed with your Mom for having you at all. If JP cared at all about whether or not he was Caylee's father, he'd have found out. It was convenient to him to lie, to refuse the responsibility and to ignore Caylee altogether. Even the Ants were better parents than him--IF he's the father.

And maybe your husband isn't like that--I don't know, but it seems to me that 13 years is a very long time to go, without taking a test to see for sure. In a way your husband's right-she isn't his. He didn't raise her, love her, or even claim her.

I doubt JP has taken the test, because if he had, someone would have found out and leaked it, don't you think? Whoever the father is, even death can't motivate him to take an interest in this child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:53:40 PM


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....


The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.

The e-mail stated:


"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::


He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.


NOTE; hand over my mouth not saying a word.....but laughing like hell which has now thrown me into a coughing spell....................HELP!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:54:01 PM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...

As I've said before, I grew up in Sacramento, living there for over 40 years, before moving out here to Nebraska.  I knew LP from living in that town, know his reputation, and groaned out loud when I first heard that he was getting involved in this case.  My sons know of him and laffed at his audacity.  LP is NOT the "godfather of bounty hunters", nor is he "world known".  IMO, and likely that of many who lives in or has lived in Sacramento, LP is an embarrassment, a legend in his own mind.  Not to mention that he has run for mayor sev. times and been beaten down each time.  Does anyone seriously think if he was all that beloved, that this would have happened so many times?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Yes, he's sexy, I'll give JJ that.  Altho Rob is hotter.  hehe   ::MonkeyHaHa::  And yes, they do make a good team, in what they've done in the past.  But the acclaim that some have for him is not the wide opinion of those in Sacramento.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just saying... again. 


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....



The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.


The e-mail stated:


"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::


He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.



Self Edit~Forgot the link: http://www.clickorlando.com/firstnews/17202414/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 04:55:14 PM


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....


The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.

The e-mail stated:


"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::


He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.


NOTE; hand over my mouth not saying a word.....but laughing like hell which has now thrown me into a coughing spell....................HELP!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Sorry ::MonkeyTongue:: Maybe Boo will let you have some of her tea ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .

blurry, you are doing a great job!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 04:55:51 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.

She could, but father and mother would have equal rights.  There is a reason why this baby hasn't been laid to rest.  This may not be the reason, but there is a reason and its not the 2nd autopsy, since Caylee is at the funeral home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:57:25 PM


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....


The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.

The e-mail stated:


"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::


He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.


NOTE; hand over my mouth not saying a word.....but laughing like hell which has now thrown me into a coughing spell....................HELP!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Sorry ::MonkeyTongue:: Maybe Boo will let you have some of her tea ::MonkeyEek::


ahahahah...I hate tea...but the hot coffee with Jamaica Rum Coconut Cream is tasting pretty good ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:57:29 PM
Can the bio dad give up his rights to Caylee's remains?  I have a feeling no one, including Casey, know who the dad is.

I guess, but since LE knew, they would have to notify him, and have that done BEFORE they could notify the grandparents and both them and KC were notified within minutes of each other, so that leads me to believe LP was right all along about the father.
But if the biological dad is dead, Casey still has the power of attorney and gives the rights of Caylee to her parents, not the parents of the dead dad.  The dead dad's parents have no rights to the child, as the dad is deceased.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 04:58:10 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 04:58:43 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.

She could, but father and mother would have equal rights.  There is a reason why this baby hasn't been laid to rest.  This may not be the reason, but there is a reason and its not the 2nd autopsy, since Caylee is at the funeral home.

Whatever the reason it is past time to lay this little angel to rest.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.
Rick the brother?

Yes Rick the brother, I have seen pictures of him, so I'm sure it wasn't him.  Cindy does have 2 other brothers.  I just don't think it a picture of Cindy's live in, for a variety of reasons, but that is MHO.
Sorry I read this wrong. I knew that wasn't Rick the brother. Some people were saying the Rob Dick guy when the picture came out. That is what had me confused.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 05:02:03 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .
You will learn Blurry, I still screw up posts. Ask anyone. You are doing fine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: txlisa on January 02, 2009, 05:02:27 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.

I never said he did.  All I am saying is that a fellow monkey e-mailed Richard Grund and asked if he was the guy in the picture, and he stated that no, it was not him and then said that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time that George was gone.  But he never said if it was the guy in the picture.

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 05:03:58 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....
That could be a reason also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:07:18 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

I don't have any information. All I got is that Richard Grund mentioned that the guy Cindy was hugging and looking longingly into his eyes, in front of George was not him (Richard) and he speculated that the man might be the boyfriend Cindy had when George left.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 05:08:08 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....
That could be a reason also.
Someone said earlier that Ortiz was eliminated as the father through DNA. So I would agree they are waiting for immunity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 05:08:24 PM
RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER
GIVE'EM HELL ALABAMA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 05:09:51 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??

I think you're on the right track here, Blaze.  IMO, the 'worst' day is when Casey killed Caylee, and the 'worst of the worst days' is when Cindy would find out and realize that it was her own words "remember the words spoken", that caused Casey to end up killing Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 05:10:41 PM
This is a snip from another article:

"Apparently rumors have been floating around that Jesus Ortiz is the father of Caylee Anthony. He died in a car accident a year ago. The Ortiz family knows nothing about Caylee, but have hired an attorney and requested that the DNA be tested for a match."
Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 05:11:21 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.

I never said he did.  All I am saying is that a fellow monkey e-mailed Richard Grund and asked if he was the guy in the picture, and he stated that no, it was not him and then said that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time that George was gone.  But he never said if it was the guy in the picture.

Lisa

Didn't mean to imply that you did.  Was just giving additional information to what you had said, expanding.  Sorry that you took it wrong. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Can the bio dad give up his rights to Caylee's remains?  I have a feeling no one, including Casey, know who the dad is.

I guess, but since LE knew, they would have to notify him, and have that done BEFORE they could notify the grandparents and both them and KC were notified within minutes of each other, so that leads me to believe LP was right all along about the father.
But if the biological dad is dead, Casey still has the power of attorney and gives the rights of Caylee to her parents, not the parents of the dead dad.  The dead dad's parents have no rights to the child, as the dad is deceased.

IIRC, there is nothing to indicate he is dead at all. That is nothing but a story CA & KC made up. So far they have told about 3 different DEAD men being the father. They WANT the father to be listed as dead, so there is nothing released.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 05:13:39 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....

I am convinced that is part of the reason, and the other part, they are shopping money deals for the funeral with the media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 05:16:27 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??

I think you're on the right track here, Blaze.  IMO, the 'worst' day is when Casey killed Caylee, and the 'worst of the worst days' is when Cindy would find out and realize that it was her own words, ("remember the words spoken"), that caused Casey to end up killing Caylee. 


*edited to add parenthesis, and to add this:

Seems to me that what Cindy wrote online was likely intended to be a huge guilt trip for Casey.  But Casey seems to have responded back to what Cindy wrote with what she wrote, likely intending a huge guilt trip for Cindy.  It's like a chess game, we are watching them play it out, using words against each other.  Whatever Cindy said to Casey back on father's day and incl before then, IMO was pivotal in the actions that Casey very likely took next with Caylee.  To strike back at her mother.  And what she wrote here only seems to be turning the screws, when Cindy realizes what was done and rereads or remembers what Casey said here.  IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 05:20:48 PM
Can the bio dad give up his rights to Caylee's remains?  I have a feeling no one, including Casey, know who the dad is.

I guess, but since LE knew, they would have to notify him, and have that done BEFORE they could notify the grandparents and both them and KC were notified within minutes of each other, so that leads me to believe LP was right all along about the father.
But if the biological dad is dead, Casey still has the power of attorney and gives the rights of Caylee to her parents, not the parents of the dead dad.  The dead dad's parents have no rights to the child, as the dad is deceased.

IIRC, there is nothing to indicate he is dead at all. That is nothing but a story CA & KC made up. So far they have told about 3 different DEAD men being the father. They WANT the father to be listed as dead, so there is nothing released.  
3 dead guys? That quells all the questions of why Casey lives at home but seems to me it also covers a big family secret.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:21:51 PM
[

Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....
That could be a reason also.
Someone said earlier that Ortiz was eliminated as the father through DNA. So I would agree they are waiting for immunity.

Maybe LE has already contact the 'father' and that is the hold up for the funeral.  Possibly????  they are going to make arrangements!!!!  I know far fetched...but possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Puzzler on January 02, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

Speaking of Tony...you know what bothers me about Tony...that we found out that he was the one the broke into the Anthony's shed to get the gas cans out for Casey.  That was a criminal act. Here's a grown man, going along with a grown woman, to break into a shed not owned by either one of them and then to steal gas cans and gas from the shed.  Boy...Tony's a lousy person, too.  They did all that to get what?  Maybe $20 worth of gas?? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 02, 2009, 05:26:59 PM
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Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....

I would say that is THE reason.  Casey has already signed over the remains to her parents and the funeral home.  It is CA and GA's hands now to bury her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
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Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....

I am convinced that is part of the reason, and the other part, they are shopping money deals for the funeral with the media.
Just a thought, maybe they are hoping that they can sell the rights to the funeral to whomever(organization) will pay for it?  Just when you thought they couldn't disgust you more?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Also, I'm still on the wagon with LA being the father since it really makes the most sense out of everything I've seen and heard.  ::MonkeyCool::
Heck, even LA's attorney called Caylee his daughter.  What a FREUDIAN slip that was.   ::MonkeyWink::  When you have Todd Black and LA's attorney tripping over their tongues, you really should listen.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: (HH, you are gonna owe me a whole BUNCH of bananas when it's PUBLIC that LA is the daddy.)  I'll be eating for days and days (while you munch on your CROW) LOL
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 05:28:41 PM
http://ngcblog.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog/2008/01/riding_along_with_the_godfathe_1.html

Here is a link from January 2008 from the National Geographic Channel on LP show.  Interesting...

As I've said before, I grew up in Sacramento, living there for over 40 years, before moving out here to Nebraska.  I knew LP from living in that town, know his reputation, and groaned out loud when I first heard that he was getting involved in this case.  My sons know of him and laffed at his audacity.  LP is NOT the "godfather of bounty hunters", nor is he "world known".  IMO, and likely that of many who lives in or has lived in Sacramento, LP is an embarrassment, a legend in his own mind.  Not to mention that he has run for mayor sev. times and been beaten down each time.  Does anyone seriously think if he was all that beloved, that this would have happened so many times?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Yes, he's sexy, I'll give JJ that.  Altho Rob is hotter.  hehe   ::MonkeyHaHa::  And yes, they do make a good team, in what they've done in the past.  But the acclaim that some have for him is not the wide opinion of those in Sacramento.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just saying... again. 


I tend to agree Wyks, I don't think he is a bad person, I just think he is a legend in his own mind and tends to muddy the waters IMO. Funny you mentioned this as I was reading yesterday and found his email to Local 6 news announcing his arrival to bail out Casey, gotta love his description of himself.....

The Padillas announced the move in an e-mail to Local 6 News.

The e-mail stated:

"On Sunday, August 17, World Famous Bounty Hunter  Leonard Padilla and his nephew Tony Padilla, owner of Tony Padilla Bail Bonds of Sacramento, CA., will be traveling to Orlando with two of Leonard Padilla's associates. Tony Padilla will be posting a $500,000.00 bond for the release of Casey Anthony."  ::MonkeyTongue::

He said he knows who has the girl and is giving them a deadline to turn her over before he goes after them. Meanwhile, Casey Anthony will report to the jail Monday to meet with her case manager for a weekly visit.

Yep islandmonkey!  A legend in his own mind.  Sad.  And yet, even knowing his reputation out Sacto way, I thought hmmm... Maybe... Cuz there was every possibility that using his normal sleazy and wayyyyyyyyy less than stellar tactics might, just might work.  So what the heck, I thought, he's willing to try at least.  Too bad it didn't work.  I do believe he embarrassed himself as well as allowed Casey to embarrass him, which likely is what is behind his coming back with a vigor to find Caylee himself.  For his own sake, and in his own mind, he's got to save face.  IMO.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

thanks Today....I am search illiterate...but hope a smart monkey will be able to find it.  JANET WHERE ARE YOU!!!!
Boo....I have caught your CRUD!~ ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 05:30:27 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??

I think you're on the right track here, Blaze.  IMO, the 'worst' day is when Casey killed Caylee, and the 'worst of the worst days' is when Cindy would find out and realize that it was her own words "remember the words spoken", that caused Casey to end up killing Caylee. 


Well said and I agree!!

Waving to the monkeys!!!   :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Puzzler on January 02, 2009, 05:30:32 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.







All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP!  ::MonkeyTongue::

The only thing about the way Casey is sexually, is that something probably made her that way.

George has a gambling problem--that creates the exact same dynamic as alcoholism or drug addiction in a family. Dad feeds himself, Mom exists to feed Dad at the expense of the kids, the good kid feeds Mom and the bad kid imitates Dad and gets attention that way.

I don't think she's have bothered seducing George once she was 19. How would that give you power?

But he might have started a sexual relationship with her when she was 16, in order to feel he was in control of his family, to have something over on Cindy, and because his sense of duty to his children is very weak. He probably saw Casey as a cute chick not as his child. Men who are using drugs or alcohol do have more clouded judgment and are more likely to molest their kids, but IMO that's no excuse.

Casey's screwing like she's out to get revenge or something, like she's trying to empower herself. Meaning she was disempowered by sex at some point. I think somebody had sex with her against her will, and then she figured if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

None of this mitigates her killing Caylee, IMO. But it is one logical explanation for it. 

What if?  Casey seduced George to get back at Cindy.  Once Casey had Caylee, Casey would use Caylee to get back at Cindy.  But BEFORE Caylee was born, what did Casey use to get back at Cindy??  George or Lee would be the logical options in the crazy world that Casey lives in.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
CBB check messages please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
Here is a thought on the immunity deal that A's are looking for. Far be it from me to by cynical of anything these people do or what defense attys are capably of. Here is goes ... JMHO.

It is just a hunch, but the request of immunity by Cindy & George Anthony seems to remind me of a Law & Order episode that i saw one time. Let's think back and remember that ever since Cindy made the second 911 call stating that the car smelled like death, the A's have done everything humanly possible to not cooperate with the investigation. Have it been despicable? Yes!!! Have they broke the law, who knows at this point?

However, what if this is the grand scheme. The lawyer's of the A's and Casey conspire so that the A's wind up with full immunity and then during the trial Casey's attys shift the blame of "reasonable doubt" to Cindy & George. After all they would have had access to the house, the computer, cell phones and the car.

The defense team will point the finger at the Anthonys and nothing can be done to prosecute them as they will have been given immunity. It not only provides a method for reasonable doubt, it also provides a way where no one can ever subsequently be tried for Caylee's death.

Like I said ... this was a theme to a Law & Order episode where a daughter/son was found not guilty as the parent who was given immunity was made to look like to killer.

Just a thought as I put nothing past what these people are capable of to save their bacon.

Hi Monkeys!

I have to come out of lurking for a moment to acknowledge this theory (late, too, sorry guys).

This theory makes so much sense!!!!  I think you are so right, Red.

Nothing else has made sense.  I can't believe that all of the sudden the A's want to come clean about Casey.  I don't think they have changed gears at all.  I think they are still scheming to cover everything up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 02, 2009, 05:36:52 PM
I haven't been on here for several days and I have a question to ask.  I heard that LA moved out of his house and into his girlfriend's parents house.  Can someone give me the scoop or direct me to where I can read about this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:40:41 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 02, 2009, 05:42:42 PM
Well I don't think LP is sexy, but I do expect him to start singing every time he's on TV because he looks so much like Howard Keel!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 05:42:56 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!
Welcome, what a cute pup. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 02, 2009, 05:44:19 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Well I have commented a couple of times about this immunity explanation she has put out there but they haven't been shown. Maybe because I was very critical of her? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 05:45:57 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!
Welcome, what a cute pup. ::MonkeyDance::


Thank you! He is 4 years old and his name is Fender. My husband named him after his Fender guitar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!
Welcome MomofaMarine!  (and bless you and your Marine)!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 05:46:17 PM
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Thanks.....who originally said Lee was the biodad? (I don't buy it) And IIRC Dr. Baden said the LE knew who the biodad was. I am wondering if someone came forward saying I might be...took a paternity test and was discovered he was indeed the biodad and the LE is keeping it confidential.

I believe it is in the family. If not Lee or GA, the father would have been notified by LE when the body was found and he would have had the rights to the remains. Think about it.

Turbo why do you think it it is Lee or GA??  casey is the next of kin....she had the right to sign over POA to her parents....as I understood it...I am sure if I am incorrect someone will know for sure.
If LE knows who the father is, would they not contact him, and if he is deceased his family? Because he would be next of kin also. I don't know but this secrecy around Caylee's father is disturbing. I do have a question though, Casey signed whatever papers needed for Caylee's remains to go to the mortuary, but does she not have the right to make funeral plans, which I believe she does, and she would have to give the okay to her parents to make the plans. That could be the hold up.

Could they be delaying the funeral until the immunity deals are worked out between the lawyers/SA?   just wondering.....

I am convinced that is part of the reason, and the other part, they are shopping money deals for the funeral with the media.
I agree completely. Who will pay the most. That's why they said no cameras, cell phones, etc if they have a public memorial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
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LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!
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So Boo, you were the one RG wrote to?  (I'm slow on the uptake due to a cold my own self).  I looked at his myspace but couldn't really find anything.  I don't know why I want to know about this situation, but I do.  TIA and I hope you're better.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:47:23 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Finally I'm caught up, for the moment anyway. I have to say after reading everything today, I feel like this: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/15.gif) And this(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/7.gif) and this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/10.gif),  this  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/12.gif)  and also this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/11.gif). Well you get the idea. There was nothing really new in the news today? Or did I miss it. Fill me in monkeys!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:47:47 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 05:48:15 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 05:49:01 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

thanks Today....I am search illiterate...but hope a smart monkey will be able to find it.  JANET WHERE ARE YOU!!!!
Boo....I have caught your CRUD!~ ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


hahahahaha....please don't make me laugh I start coughing!  LOL...  I think the rum cream is working!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 05:49:15 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

Speaking of Tony...you know what bothers me about Tony...that we found out that he was the one the broke into the Anthony's shed to get the gas cans out for Casey.  That was a criminal act. Here's a grown man, going along with a grown woman, to break into a shed not owned by either one of them and then to steal gas cans and gas from the shed.  Boy...Tony's a lousy person, too.  They did all that to get what?  Maybe $20 worth of gas?? 


I don't think he thought is was wrong at the time, he even told the police he did it. She lived there, he had no reason whatever to think that she was not supposed to be in the shed. She is a LIAR, she makes lies sound good. Believe me I am not a Tony L supporter, but on this one I support him. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 05:49:19 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Finally I'm caught up, for the moment anyway. I have to say after reading everything today, I feel like this: (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/15.gif) And this(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/7.gif) and this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/10.gif),  this  (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/12.gif)  and also this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/11.gif). Well you get the idea. There was nothing really new in the news today? Or did I miss it. Fill me in monkeys!



Nothing really new.  Greta will have a special tonight.  I believe it's mostly pre-recorded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:49:43 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!
Don't sit next to Boo!  She has a cold!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:50:09 PM
Hi MomofaMarine.  Welcome!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 05:50:51 PM
On July 7th, KC puts a "dairy of days' post on her my space.
She typed:
"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken....

I would say the worst of the worst days is when she killed Caylee... and I would think this post was a response to CA. 

So worst of worst days..(day she killed Caylee)...could have been the night of the fight, June 15th, or June 16th before 7:06... at 7:06pm...she had a 14 minute conversation with CA.  So I wonder what was said on that day...for KC to write it in her Diary of days...
What was said between KC and CA??? What did CA say to her... ??

I think you're on the right track here, Blaze.  IMO, the 'worst' day is when Casey killed Caylee, and the 'worst of the worst days' is when Cindy would find out and realize that it was her own words "remember the words spoken", that caused Casey to end up killing Caylee. 


Well said and I agree!!

Waving to the monkeys!!!   :2waver:

Hi CBB thanks for posting my Valentine avi you are the bestest!! :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:51:19 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDance::
WELCOME MOMOFAMARINE TO THE AWESOME MONKEY CAGE!!
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 05:51:22 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 05:52:41 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
  ::MonkeyShocked:: Spew whos commets there? Red's comments?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 05:54:39 PM
What if?  Casey seduced George to get back at Cindy.  Once Casey had Caylee, Casey would use Caylee to get back at Cindy.  But BEFORE Caylee was born, what did Casey use to get back at Cindy??  George or Lee would be the logical options in the crazy world that Casey lives in.
That was the train of thought I had too. George was leverage and then Caylee was more leverage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 05:54:42 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Hi Mom and Welcome...a big hug to your son and you and your family for the sacrifices you are making to keep us free and safe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 05:55:19 PM
I totally agree with you guys about the "worst of worst days" quote.  Casey is telling Cindy to remember the words spoken by her on the day of the big blowup or soon after.    Cindy may have threatened to get custody of Caylee.  She may have told Casey that she was a terrible mom.  No telling what harsh words were spoken.  And they were the catalyst for what happened.  I have always thought that Casey killed Caylee to punish Cindy and as a direct result of something that happened between her and Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 05:55:33 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM


 ::MonkeyDance::  It's all good JSM.

The only thing that could make this day better would be for someone to get picked up by the POPO.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  (The Anthonys that is.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 02, 2009, 05:55:52 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

OOOh I feel for you. I did the same thing some years ago and it hurts so much!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 05:56:44 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 

Hudsunn, JMO~but I believe their are some women who are so insecure they feel they have to have a man in there lives no matter what. I had a friend like that, it didn;t really matter whether or not she thought he was "the one", she just couldn't be alone (and she had a small child), I've seen this over and over with some women-self esteem issues rule their lives ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)


thanks Klaas.....i hope she is  ::MonkeyWink::fair and balanced ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDance::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 05:56:58 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!
Welcome Mom of a Marine. God bless you and your Marine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 02, 2009, 05:57:38 PM

one thing is certain. If he IS the father, then it's also his fault Caylee never got to know her Dad, have a relationship with him, be supported by him either emotionally or financially. Because if he were the Dad, then he already got asked about it and LIED. Everyone who's ever seen him near Caylee is bound to have noticed the resemblance, and if he IS the Dad, then he knows that he slept with Casey at the right time. And if he gave a rat's ass he'd have asked for a paternity test years ago.

Maybe the resemblance is just a coincidence?



I know when people commented on the likeness of my husband and his older daughter he would say that she was not his. He only slept with her mother once (and he said he never even put it in!) and could not believe that after 13 years she could be his. Perhaps this is the way JP is dealing with the possibility prior to this whole situation.   Now that the poop has hit the fan, he finds it just easier to say nothing. Or he may know he is the father because LE had him do a DNA test and he just is staying out of the limelight - weird compared to the rest of the group I know!

IMO, it's better to have no Dad at all, than one who denies having you, resents supporting you, and is annoyed with your Mom for having you at all. If JP cared at all about whether or not he was Caylee's father, he'd have found out. It was convenient to him to lie, to refuse the responsibility and to ignore Caylee altogether. Even the Ants were better parents than him--IF he's the father.

And maybe your husband isn't like that--I don't know, but it seems to me that 13 years is a very long time to go, without taking a test to see for sure. In a way your husband's right-she isn't his. He didn't raise her, love her, or even claim her.

I doubt JP has taken the test, because if he had, someone would have found out and leaked it, don't you think? Whoever the father is, even death can't motivate him to take an interest in this child.

Well, in my hubby's case the girl's mom kept telling him it was not his - that she was her husband (who she married shortly after having the baby). Eventually mom decided she wanted money and my hubby took a test - and upon getting the results, started paying child support and fathered her the best he could. But that is because he cares. The same reason he has raised his ex wife's son since he was 2 even though she refused to allow him to adopt him. But I digress . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 05:58:31 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 05:58:43 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 
Interesting. The pattern of using others for financial support came from Cindy. Like mother like daughter, getting boyfriends to pay the bills.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Hudsunn on January 02, 2009, 05:59:35 PM
Welcome, MarineMom.  We are grateful for your son's service. 

Have you been following the Caylee case from the beginning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
MomofaMarine

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:00:57 PM
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Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 
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Hudsunn, you've just said what I've been thinking.  Sometimes I start thinking the only thing necessary to find someone is talkativity and a lack of pickiness, though I'm trying hard not to be judgmental.  This happened shortly after Casey gave birth, correct?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

OUCHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smt022


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:01:22 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

Speaking of Tony...you know what bothers me about Tony...that we found out that he was the one the broke into the Anthony's shed to get the gas cans out for Casey.  That was a criminal act. Here's a grown man, going along with a grown woman, to break into a shed not owned by either one of them and then to steal gas cans and gas from the shed.  Boy...Tony's a lousy person, too.  They did all that to get what?  Maybe $20 worth of gas?? 



Tony was probably trying to get laid...  ::MonkeyWink::

No, but really, it seems that the Anthony women like to boss their men around.  They seem to choose men who can be their pawns... jmo.  I know a lot of other people have the opinion that the men are the aggressors in that family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
Welcome, MarineMom.  We are grateful for your son's service. 

Have you been following the Caylee case from the beginning?


Oh you bet I have! I remember the first night I saw it on Nancy Grace. My hubby walked in and said whats this about? I said I dont know some chick wont tell anyone where her kid is! Little did I know this would still be going on months later! Its crazy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 06:02:44 PM
WELCOME MARINEMOM!!!

We're glad you are here!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
  ::MonkeyShocked:: Spew whos commets there? Red's comments?

Nothing against her comments, but she can spit them out on this blog, and tell Greta what she wanted to tell in the email. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM


 ::MonkeyDance::  It's all good JSM.

The only thing that could make this day better would be for someone to get picked up by the POPO.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  (The Anthonys that is.)

That would make a lot of our days better!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:03:57 PM
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LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!
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So Boo, you were the one RG wrote to?  (I'm slow on the uptake due to a cold my own self).  I looked at his myspace but couldn't really find anything.  I don't know why I want to know about this situation, but I do.  TIA and I hope you're better.


Yes, it was me. It wouldn't be on his myspace b/c I sent him a personal message and he answered me back.  He knows I'm a Scared Monkey and I have asked if it was OK to post his stuff on the board. He said it was alright as long as it was in it's entirety and not snipped.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:06:14 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Welcome!!!

This is off topic, sorry, but wasn't their a jet plane that just crashed at a Marine base in North Carolina?  Is that the same one where he works?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 06:06:46 PM

True, but these people are in their early twenties. Men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. He was just having sex with her, that's all.

*Some* men aren't thinking about marriage at that age. Some actually do want to get married and settle down (my husband and I got married in our early-mid twenties).  Obviously Tony was not the serious, settle down type.. he might never be.  He looks to be too much of a player. 

JMO,  BUT if they were only having sex then would have only been having sex.  She was at his apt. 24/7,  cooking together, watching movies, spending the night, etc.  That is not just having sex.  AND if they were just having sex then there would have never been a need for him to say he didn't want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby because of course they would have only been having sex.  Don't get me wrong, Casey bought into this crap and didn't want Caylee around either and of course Tony didn't know Casey was a sociopath, BUT STILL.....if you don't want kids around then don't F*****in date a girl with children and screw with their emotions. 
I only have fur baby and if i met someone that didn't want her around, I would show them the door

True Abbey, yet it doesn't mean they both thought of it as just having sex.  Tony seems to have been in it for sex.  Casey seems to have been the one "playing house" with Tony.  It doesn't seem that he minded much that along with the sex came the cooking and the cleaning of his place.  I think Casey placed a bigger importance on their relationship than Tony did.  Even when Tony went out of state without Casey, he did not leave her the key to his place.  They spoke on the phone while he was gone, but not often enough for HER, and it seemed too often for Tony, from what he and others said later. 

Just as girls need to be very careful around guys who may play them, especially if they have children who may be affected by all that.... guys need to be very careful around girls who may play them, perhaps only wanting/needing someone to take care of her and her children.  Goes both ways.  IMO

I have two sons who have been played badly by girls in the past, I regularly warn them to be careful with their hearts.  They are both so gentle with females, so caring and trusting, makes me want to run out in front of them with a sign saying, 'this is a GOOD man!  the last of his kind!  treat him NICE or else!'   ::MonkeyHaHa::

But I have one son who is a player.  :(    I want to smack him upside the head with a brick, (not literally! lol).  I do admonishing him NOT to play a female, for any reason, FGS.  And any girl he starts seeing in a serious way, I do find some time to sit down and have a lil chat with her, so that she knows, in no uncertain way, just exactly what she's getting herself into with that one son.  Lord knows I love him, he's my son, but that doesn't mean I have to like him all the time. 
   
I see a bit of this attitude with Cindy, who reportedly warned Tony about Casey.  Basically it was the wrong place wrong time kind of thing, but it makes me wonder if she didn't try and do that with other guys in Casey's life, at least those she knew about.  Heck, I dunno.  Giving her the benefit of the doubt when I don't want to.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 06:07:57 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 

Hudsunn, JMO~but I believe their are some women who are so insecure they feel they have to have a man in there lives no matter what. I had a friend like that, it didn;t really matter whether or not she thought he was "the one", she just couldn't be alone (and she had a small child), I've seen this over and over with some women-self esteem issues rule their lives ::MonkeyConfused::
absolutely  ::MonkeyWink:: I believe KC is the same way.  Wonder why Cindy took him back, after he spent the $60K with the new girlfriend?  That REAKS of insecurity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 06:08:49 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Welcome!!!

This is off topic, sorry, but wasn't their a jet plane that just crashed at a Marine base in North Carolina?  Is that the same one where he works?


I believe that was at Cherry Point. My son is at New River Air Station.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:08:55 PM
Boo,

If you wouldn't mind directing me to that message or references to it, that would be great.  If not, ok too--I don't want to get pushy.  For some reason this has grabbed my attention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
Trimm, I hope you didn't see the reply I gave to the Sassycat about the Bama/Utah game. Whatever you do, don't read it. I just hopes the best team wins.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Luvs JSM


 ::MonkeyDance::  It's all good JSM.

The only thing that could make this day better would be for someone to get picked up by the POPO.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  (The Anthonys that is.)
It's not good Trimm, we just got whupped! Sad day for a Graham Harrell Fan. I have a picture of him my Daddy took when he played HS football.

NOW It will be a good day when my friend Sheriff Beary arrests them all. I have a frozen pizza just waiting for that day. I left work early to watch the horrible game but now I am waiting on THE arrest warrant to be served. No more waiting around. Do it now cuddly Beary! Roll Tide, I don't want to leave out Sassy so GO Utah, what ever their names may be. Utes maybe? I don't know I am sad tonight.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:11:12 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Welcome!!!

This is off topic, sorry, but wasn't their a jet plane that just crashed at a Marine base in North Carolina?  Is that the same one where he works?


I believe that was at Cherry Point. My son is at New River Air Station.

Oh ok.  Well, thanks for his service, and I will get back on topic now.  Welcome  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 06:12:18 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

A new monkey, that's what!

Welcome, MomofaMarine! Looking forward to your posts, too!


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-hearts.gif)

Hi monkeys!
I am still trying to catch up .. I'll be there soon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 

Hudsunn, JMO~but I believe their are some women who are so insecure they feel they have to have a man in there lives no matter what. I had a friend like that, it didn;t really matter whether or not she thought he was "the one", she just couldn't be alone (and she had a small child), I've seen this over and over with some women-self esteem issues rule their lives ::MonkeyConfused::
absolutely  ::MonkeyWink:: I believe KC is the same way.  Wonder why Cindy took him back, after he spent the $60K with the new girlfriend?  That REAKS REEKS of insecurity.
fixed typo ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:13:30 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:15:16 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Greta010209.jpg)

  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
  ::MonkeyShocked:: Spew whos commets there? Red's comments?

Nothing against her comments, but she can spit them out on this blog, and tell Greta what she wanted to tell in the email. 
I don't understand, who is she? Red? He left her a comment on Greta's blog yesterday and his post was censored. I am totally confused, please help me out?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

A new monkey, that's what!

Welcome, MomofaMarine! Looking forward to your posts, too!


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-hearts.gif)

Hi monkeys!
I am still trying to catch up .. I'll be there soon!

Those images are soooo cute, Brandi!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .
You will learn Blurry, I still screw up posts. Ask anyone. You are doing fine!
are doing fine.  ::MonkeyCool::


I'm with JSM,you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 06:16:10 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
You are a knee slapper Boo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 06:16:24 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

A new monkey, that's what!

Welcome, MomofaMarine! Looking forward to your posts, too!


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-hearts.gif)

Hi monkeys!
I am still trying to catch up .. I'll be there soon!

Those images are soooo cute, Brandi!

Thanks! I have fun making them! ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:17:39 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/peek.gif)

A new monkey, that's what!

Welcome, MomofaMarine! Looking forward to your posts, too!


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-hearts.gif)

Hi monkeys!
I am still trying to catch up .. I'll be there soon!

Hi Brandi!  That is too darn CUTE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Puzzler on January 02, 2009, 06:17:40 PM
1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.


Thanks for the great reply. Good discussion!
1. Serial killer on a small scale. Usually starts with animals, could be Casey watched at an early age and was inspired. The bedroom of the little girl was all trophies in a way, all over the whole room it was plastered with her. And maybe Casey dumped the trophy and got a tattoo as the trophy instead.

2. If Casey ran off with Jesse at the baby's birth then jilted George could have rebounded and had a crisis by leaving and spending all the money that he promised to Casey (not Cindy). Wonder if he came back to the house when Jesse and Casey split to try and reconcile the relationship?

3. If Casey wanted to hurt Cindy she would have done so by stealing her man George. That's the ultimate hurt. Then to concieve a child with that man is even more pain. Then when Cindy gets so attached to the child Casey kills the child to hurt her even more. All the while toying with George in a little secretive game. Casey was playing a game.

Mainstream incest might not apply here. Because it usually doesn't end up with murder, just runaways and behavior issues. So the twist could be a criminal element with underlying incest that surfaced only because of DNA testing.

Thanks. You have some interesting ideas here.

1) But she didn't think of those things as trophies--she didn't want to sleep in Caylee's room. Those are Caylee's things, not Casey's trophies.
I was wondering if she had like, dog collars or ears or tails of animals that she kept, or if maybe that wooded area was a place to stash both victims and trophies. Because if she is a serial killer type, she'd follow a pattern with all her victims. I'm inclined to think this is more a Diane Downing scenario. Downing was also a sociopath, yet she fit the profile.

2) I'm getting more and more surprised that Casey killed the baby instead of the parents, here. It's feasible, but something about it doesn't work for me. I do remember George saying he wanted to beat up Jesse or something like that.

3) I could see a girl playing a game, but it seems so random and pointless here. Especially since the man in question is her biological father. If it's true, then his part in the game is to exploit both mother and daughter and play them off against one another. I don't see the reason she'd hate Cindy that much before Caylee was born, though.  Ideas?

And if Cindy knew about it, she'd have thrown Casey out, because that's what women like her do when they find out their daughter has slept with their husband. (I think that's why this bugs me--because all too often ignorant women keep the man and lose the daughter, assuming that she seduced him. It's almost never true, even when the girl thinks it is.)

4) How does her obsession with Tony Lazarro fit into all this?


What if??  In the big fight between Cindy and Casey over Caylee on Father's day...the day where supposedly Cindy strangled Casey...that the reason Cindy strangled Casey was because Casey threw it in her face that Cindy would never get custody of Caylee because George is the father...what if Cindy only heard about George being the father on that day??  Just a theory...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .
You will learn Blurry, I still screw up posts. Ask anyone. You are doing fine!
are doing fine.  ::MonkeyCool::


I'm with JSM,you


JSM,I destroyed that ! I don't know what I just did.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I was trying to agree...Blurrymonkey,you are doing fine. Your posting is much better than mine right now.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Honestly, save a few of those pain killers for closer to the trial, you will most definitely need them.  In fact, you might need to share as I anticipate a lot of us are going to be in pain watching KC in action!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: caribaloo on January 02, 2009, 06:19:06 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!

I hadn't seen that yet.  Thanks!
It goes along with what I believe that Hoover is full of monkey poo!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:19:24 PM


Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???

no can do...they are both 'out' getting into trouble ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 06:19:37 PM
Well I don't think LP is sexy, but I do expect him to start singing every time he's on TV because he looks so much like Howard Keel!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL.    I loved Howard Keel!    Especially when he was Miss Ellie's husband on Dallas!!!    No wonder I think LP is handsome, I never made the connection before!     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 06:20:39 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome!!! ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:23:05 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Thanks MoM...I had not seen this one.....BTW..he is full of SHXT!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 06:23:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html      Interesting ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 02, 2009, 06:24:23 PM
Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape
Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.


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VIDEO REPORT: Mystery Videotape Could Hold Clue
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Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html


Yesterday on CNN Padilla said the PI was talking to Joy Wray on the phone. Guess he doesn't know who it was today..........



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:24:27 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:25:13 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:25:33 PM
1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.


Thanks for the great reply. Good discussion!
1. Serial killer on a small scale. Usually starts with animals, could be Casey watched at an early age and was inspired. The bedroom of the little girl was all trophies in a way, all over the whole room it was plastered with her. And maybe Casey dumped the trophy and got a tattoo as the trophy instead.

2. If Casey ran off with Jesse at the baby's birth then jilted George could have rebounded and had a crisis by leaving and spending all the money that he promised to Casey (not Cindy). Wonder if he came back to the house when Jesse and Casey split to try and reconcile the relationship?

3. If Casey wanted to hurt Cindy she would have done so by stealing her man George. That's the ultimate hurt. Then to concieve a child with that man is even more pain. Then when Cindy gets so attached to the child Casey kills the child to hurt her even more. All the while toying with George in a little secretive game. Casey was playing a game.

Mainstream incest might not apply here. Because it usually doesn't end up with murder, just runaways and behavior issues. So the twist could be a criminal element with underlying incest that surfaced only because of DNA testing.

Thanks. You have some interesting ideas here.

1) But she didn't think of those things as trophies--she didn't want to sleep in Caylee's room. Those are Caylee's things, not Casey's trophies.
I was wondering if she had like, dog collars or ears or tails of animals that she kept, or if maybe that wooded area was a place to stash both victims and trophies. Because if she is a serial killer type, she'd follow a pattern with all her victims. I'm inclined to think this is more a Diane Downing scenario. Downing was also a sociopath, yet she fit the profile.

2) I'm getting more and more surprised that Casey killed the baby instead of the parents, here. It's feasible, but something about it doesn't work for me. I do remember George saying he wanted to beat up Jesse or something like that.

3) I could see a girl playing a game, but it seems so random and pointless here. Especially since the man in question is her biological father. If it's true, then his part in the game is to exploit both mother and daughter and play them off against one another. I don't see the reason she'd hate Cindy that much before Caylee was born, though.  Ideas?

And if Cindy knew about it, she'd have thrown Casey out, because that's what women like her do when they find out their daughter has slept with their husband. (I think that's why this bugs me--because all too often ignorant women keep the man and lose the daughter, assuming that she seduced him. It's almost never true, even when the girl thinks it is.)

4) How does her obsession with Tony Lazarro fit into all this?


What if??  In the big fight between Cindy and Casey over Caylee on Father's day...the day where supposedly Cindy strangled Casey...that the reason Cindy strangled Casey was because Casey threw it in her face that Cindy would never get custody of Caylee because George is the father...what if Cindy only heard about George being the father on that day??  Just a theory...


Oh my  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 06:25:50 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html      Interesting ::MonkeyEek::

Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape

Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.

Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:25:58 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:26:33 PM
RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER
GIVE'EM HELL ALABAMA!
::MonkeyShocked::


 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .
You will learn Blurry, I still screw up posts. Ask anyone. You are doing fine!
are doing fine.  ::MonkeyCool::


I'm with JSM,you


JSM,I destroyed that ! I don't know what I just did.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I was trying to agree...Blurrymonkey,you are doing fine. Your posting is much better than mine right now.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Not a prob Trimm. I destroy most of my posts too. Blurry is doing a bang up job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 06:27:37 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:27:56 PM

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
::MonkeyEek::  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
Well, I want to know who the PI was on the phone with, I thought it was Joy per LP. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html      Interesting ::MonkeyEek::

snipped:


Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 06:30:43 PM

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
::MonkeyEek::  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 
More spin. Press conference and we still will not know anything, because it will be, I can't answer this, and I can't answer that. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 06:31:08 PM
Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 



 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked::

Yikes, think i'll go check back in on that double-dog daring frog!

ahahahaha Leroy!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:31:32 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:32:36 PM
Boo,

If you wouldn't mind directing me to that message or references to it, that would be great.  If not, ok too--I don't want to get pushy.  For some reason this has grabbed my attention.

Took me a few minutes to find it:

Dec 17, 2008 6:20 PM

RE: Picture question

Hello Janice! Please assure all involved that it is definitely NOT me. If it's the picture that appeared today I do not know who it is but the hug seems overly familiar and the look on George's face makes me wonder if that is the mysterious boyfriend she was living with before George came back in 2006.
The chances of Cindy hugging me at this point are slim to none times infinity! :)
God bless,
RJ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shy Monkey on January 02, 2009, 06:32:48 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I'm so far behind but would just like to add my two cents for what it is worth.  I think that Casey killed Caylee and she had planned it for a while.  I think her motive(s) were 1) She wanted to hurt Cindy with such pain that she would never get over it; 2) She wanted to be the "victim" thereby getting sympathy and attention for as long as she could.  3) She hated Caylee for all the love and attention she got and finally (4) She wanted her freedom.  I don't know what order these would have fallen under but I do believe these were the motives.

Thanks for listening!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Honestly, save a few of those pain killers for closer to the trial, you will most definitely need them.  In fact, you might need to share as I anticipate a lot of us are going to be in pain watching KC in action!!
Boo you are bad. I was thinking of going to the rink and trying a double axel before the trial. I broke my tailbone skating before, might as well do it again. They gave me better pain pills with the tailbone than my knee surgery!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 06:33:39 PM

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
::MonkeyEek::  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 
More spin. Press conference and we still will not know anything, because it will be, I can't answer this, and I can't answer that. ::MonkeyConfused::

But I am already so very dizzy!!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 06:34:17 PM
Boo,

If you wouldn't mind directing me to that message or references to it, that would be great.  If not, ok too--I don't want to get pushy.  For some reason this has grabbed my attention.

Took me a few minutes to find it:

Dec 17, 2008 6:20 PM

RE: Picture question

Hello Janice! Please assure all involved that it is definitely NOT me. If it's the picture that appeared today I do not know who it is but the hug seems overly familiar and the look on George's face makes me wonder if that is the mysterious boyfriend she was living with before George came back in 2006.
The chances of Cindy hugging me at this point are slim to none times infinity! :)
God bless,
RJ

Thanks BOOB...I mean BOO!!!   Would someone please post that picture again!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:36:20 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Sorry Sunny I was behind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I'm so far behind but would just like to add my two cents for what it is worth.  I think that Casey killed Caylee and she had planned it for a while.  I think her motive(s) were 1) She wanted to hurt Cindy with such pain that she would never get over it; 2) She wanted to be the "victim" thereby getting sympathy and attention for as long as she could.  3) She hated Caylee for all the love and attention she got and finally (4) She wanted her freedom.  I don't know what order these would have fallen under but I do believe these were the motives.

Thanks for listening!

Speedy, all excellent points and the more I learn, the more premeditated it looks. For the order, I vote for #4 to be her priority, followed by a close #2. Casey was all about Casey, IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: abbey09 on January 02, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html      Interesting ::MonkeyEek::

snipped:


Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

I am sorry !!!  This is sooo outragious.  The chance this is a coincindence in about 1 in a trillion considering the size of Orlando.  They all knew and I hope this whole family is hauled off in a patty wagon and duke it out in the back and all come out black and blue.  I have never heard of a crime in all my life where the entire family is involved.  Hang em high !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 06:40:29 PM
Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape
Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Mystery Videotape Could Hold Clue
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Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html


Yesterday on CNN Padilla said the PI was talking to Joy Wray on the phone. Guess he doesn't know who it was today..........



Yeah.  LP did say that, yesterday.    This is crazy.        ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:41:16 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

thanks Today....I am search illiterate...but hope a smart monkey will be able to find it.  JANET WHERE ARE YOU!!!!
Boo....I have caught your CRUD!~ ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sending over more whiskey and honey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 06:42:58 PM

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 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sending over more whiskey and honey.
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Ooohh, pick me, pick me   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:44:37 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!


Welcome MomofaMarine.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:44:54 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Tevye on January 02, 2009, 06:44:56 PM


Uh, Boo? Member that teapot you won? Seems the contents were the wrong mix. See, on New Year's Eve, I finished my 13 page (referenced, with cites and everything!) final paper. Then I started reading (finally!) Harry Potter. And...it seems I may have mixed up a potion other than what I told you was in the teapot. How do I know? Because it seems as tho the contents haven't run out...and the effects you display do not match my intentions. Yah, so my magic wand is a little warped...

so, if you want to send the teapot back, I'll understand. If not, let me know when you "feel better" so I can adjust the spell next time! ::MonkeyLaugh::

(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:45:26 PM
If Hoover taped over the footage - I bet it was after the story came out that he had it.  Don't most video cameras work with memory stick anymore?  I bet the FBI can recover it ... or hope so anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Puzzler on January 02, 2009, 06:46:03 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

Speaking of Tony...you know what bothers me about Tony...that we found out that he was the one the broke into the Anthony's shed to get the gas cans out for Casey.  That was a criminal act. Here's a grown man, going along with a grown woman, to break into a shed not owned by either one of them and then to steal gas cans and gas from the shed.  Boy...Tony's a lousy person, too.  They did all that to get what?  Maybe $20 worth of gas?? 


I don't think he thought is was wrong at the time, he even told the police he did it. She lived there, he had no reason whatever to think that she was not supposed to be in the shed. She is a LIAR, she makes lies sound good. Believe me I am not a Tony L supporter, but on this one I support him. JMO

Tony...yes he told the police...he also got immunity from the police before they interviewed him...we all thought it was because of drugs that were being used....but everybody knows you don't break into other people's property...so maybe the immunity was to cover that aspect, too.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 06:47:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html      Interesting ::MonkeyEek::

snipped:


Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

I am sorry !!!  This is sooo outragious.  The chance this is a coincindence in about 1 in a trillion considering the size of Orlando.  They all knew and I hope this whole family is hauled off in a patty wagon and duke it out in the back and all come out black and blue.  I have never heard of a crime in all my life where the entire family is involved.  Hang em high !!!
I have never seen anything like this either, they all knew.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 06:48:43 PM




(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
I didn't know Tony got immunity before he talked to LE. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:50:21 PM
Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
 

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.







Speaking of Tony. I do not like the fact that he said he did not want Caylee around or that he only wanted a boy baby.  At least that is what I thought i heard.  Maybe I am wrong.  BUT if that is true, he should have never dated Casey in the first place.  It's not like you can marry a girl and not take her children as a package deal

Speaking of Tony...you know what bothers me about Tony...that we found out that he was the one the broke into the Anthony's shed to get the gas cans out for Casey.  That was a criminal act. Here's a grown man, going along with a grown woman, to break into a shed not owned by either one of them and then to steal gas cans and gas from the shed.  Boy...Tony's a lousy person, too.  They did all that to get what?  Maybe $20 worth of gas?? 


I don't think he thought is was wrong at the time, he even told the police he did it. She lived there, he had no reason whatever to think that she was not supposed to be in the shed. She is a LIAR, she makes lies sound good. Believe me I am not a Tony L supporter, but on this one I support him. JMO

Tony...yes he told the police...he also got immunity from the police before they interviewed him...we all thought it was because of drugs that were being used....but everybody knows you don't break into other people's property...so maybe the immunity was to cover that aspect, too.



I didn't know he had gotten immunity. I just know what "most" guys would do for a girl. It was her house, so she more than likely told him it was cool to break into the shed. It was her residence so by law she could break into it and not be punished. At least that is how it is in Texas, not sure about Florida.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
If Hoover taped over the footage - I bet it was after the story came out that he had it.  Don't most video cameras work with memory stick anymore?  I bet the FBI can recover it ... or hope so anyway.

I agree. And unless there is some really obvious landmark, how can they prove exactly where the footage was taken?  I would think alot of the wooded areas there look alike.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Kimber on January 02, 2009, 06:52:38 PM
Casey's Closet, Caylee's Room Searched
Monday, December 22, 2008 – updated: 9:29 am EST January 1, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- WFTV has learned crime scene investigators stripped Caylee Anthony's room and then raided Casey's closet during a recent search of the home.

Crime scene investigators have confiscated boxes of items from the Anthony home two times in the past week.

Sources tell Eyewitness News last Thursday, investigators were focused on Caylee Anthony. They took her clothes, shoes and her toys.

Over the weekend, another search warrant was executed and investigators came back for Casey Anthony's belongings. They took more of Caylee's clothes, five to eight pairs of Casey's shoes and her clothes as well.

Legal expert Bill Sheaffer believes investigators are trying to take as many items as possible to help build their case because they don't have a cause of death.

"Any forensic evidence linking Casey to the scene is extremely important for the state's prosecution," said Sheaffer.

We are also told investigators took soil samples from the Anthony home. Once defense attorney Jose Baez found out that the samples were taken as part of the evidence, he sent out his own team and they collected soil from the home for their forensic experts.

Sources tell WFTV, investigators also took two pairs of sunglasses and a pink-zippered bag.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Blue Moon on January 02, 2009, 06:52:45 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 
Interesting. The pattern of using others for financial support came from Cindy. Like mother like daughter, getting boyfriends to pay the bills.

I posted this earlier.  My thinking is Cindy didn't just get a boyfriend after George left. Had to be sometime before the left:

I am throwing this out there for comsumption only:

It was said on here that Cindy was living with someone when George left after Caylee was born.  Could the hostility of Cindy and KC come from the fact that Mom had a boyfriend and maybe that boyfriend and KC got together and Caylee is the product of that?  That would explain why Cindy wouldn't let her abort the baby, would explain why George left after Caylee was born and almost resulted in divorce.  I can see KC holding this over Mom and Dad's heads for the rest of their lives.  (JMO)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:53:10 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Sorry Sunny I was behind!

Oh yeah!! Like it didn't cross any of YOUR minds when she mentioned pain killers!!!! Hell, that's like raising a red flag around here!! Esp after we start listening to both JB and Cindy in ONE DAY. You're just jealous cause I asked first!! Remember that MOM, I asked FIRST!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:53:49 PM




(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Bearly???  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!
He looks so big on the steps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:55:35 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 
Interesting. The pattern of using others for financial support came from Cindy. Like mother like daughter, getting boyfriends to pay the bills.

I posted this earlier.  My thinking is Cindy didn't just get a boyfriend after George left. Had to be sometime before the left:

I am throwing this out there for comsumption only:

It was said on here that Cindy was living with someone when George left after Caylee was born.  Could the hostility of Cindy and KC come from the fact that Mom had a boyfriend and maybe that boyfriend and KC got together and Caylee is the product of that?  That would explain why Cindy wouldn't let her abort the baby, would explain why George left after Caylee was born and almost resulted in divorce.  I can see KC holding this over Mom and Dad's heads for the rest of their lives.  (JMO)

that certainly does seem plausible.  As sick as it is to swap cooties like that with your mom (in a round-about way  ::MonkeyConfused:: ), Casey seems like the type to have sex with her mom's BF just to pi$$ her off. Maybe that's why Cindy said "nobody will know who Caylee's father is now".  ::MonkeyEek:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:56:01 PM
RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER
GIVE'EM HELL ALABAMA!
::MonkeyShocked::


 ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
If Hoover taped over the footage - I bet it was after the story came out that he had it.  Don't most video cameras work with memory stick anymore?  I bet the FBI can recover it ... or hope so anyway.

I agree. And unless there is some really obvious landmark, how can they prove exactly where the footage was taken?  I would think alot of the wooded areas there look alike.


LP said (LPism here - came out of his mouth - no legitimate truth to it YET (the YET is for you jj))  - anyway - he said you can see some signs or something in the video that show that this is the same area.  Who knows for sure?! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 06:57:51 PM

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
::MonkeyEek::  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 


Very interesting.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 06:58:29 PM
Well, I want to know who the PI was on the phone with, I thought it was Joy per LP. ::MonkeyEek::

Me too!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 06:58:50 PM




(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Bearly???  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Yes Bearly.  She was abbreviating Blurrymonkey's name (BM).  I found it funny the way I read it.  It was late and had been a long night   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 06:59:07 PM
Ok, lemme get this straight.
On Nov 15th the PIs were filming from a tip? 600 yards from the actual location.
On Dec 15 the body was actually found? (because the water receded)

Does LP think that someone the phone was describing what Casey had told them about the location of the body. Had to be Baez then because he's the only one who knew. Unless and Ant knew from a letter Casey had written them from her cell. (What date did Lee tell her to do that?)

LP said they had the PI cell phone so they know exactly who he was talking to. If it was Baez then he's in a heap of trouble.... right?
If it was an Ant then they need immunity soon.... right? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 02, 2009, 07:00:15 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!
He looks so big on the steps.

He weighs 9 pounds! The Vet says to not let him get any bigger. I had a Tea Cup Chihuahua that was half of my new dogs body weight but he passed away 4 years ago on Christmas Eve.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:00:25 PM
Quote
Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM
Quote

Leroy!  I thought I was the only one who noticed that!  Bearly seems so sweet that I didn't think much of it.  Once I picked my name, I thought it might be a problem.

At least you got dressed too. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 07:00:30 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Sorry Sunny I was behind!

Oh yeah!! Like it didn't cross any of YOUR minds when she mentioned pain killers!!!! Hell, that's like raising a red flag around here!! Esp after we start listening to both JB and Cindy in ONE DAY. You're just jealous cause I asked first!! Remember that MOM, I asked FIRST!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
  ::MonkeyDance:: Wrong Boo, I am going to the rink tomorrow and try to land a double axel, then I will break my tailbone in pieces and get all the pills I need before the trial. You will be calling me up for them then!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: PS Boo. I can't land a single axel yet. I did break my tailbone trying to land a Lutz.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:02:07 PM




(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Bearly???  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Yes Bearly.  She was abbreviating Blurrymonkey's name (BM).  I found it funny the way I read it.  It was late and had been a long night   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:03:13 PM



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sending over more whiskey and honey.
[/quote]

Ooohh, pick me, pick me   ::MonkeyCool::
[/quote]

Unbolting the door as we speak! We can share and I promise not to cough on you!  ::MonkeyWink:: Trimm you are always such a sweetie!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:04:13 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hey Blurry!  What kind of "tea" are you drinking?!  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:04:26 PM



LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   ::MonkeyTongue::
[/quote] Sorry Sunny I was behind!
[/quote]

 :salut:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 07:04:50 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!
He looks so big on the steps.

He weighs 9 pounds! The Vet says to not let him get any bigger. I had a Tea Cup Chihuahua that was half of my new dogs body weight but he passed away 4 years ago on Christmas Eve.
That's sad about your other baby. We love doggy babies and Kitty babies on the monkeys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 07:05:24 PM
Quote
Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM
Quote

Leroy!  I thought I was the only one who noticed that!  Bearly seems so sweet that I didn't think much of it.  Once I picked my name, I thought it might be a problem.

At least you got dressed too. 

It was even funnier coming from Bearly!  And by the way, WELCOME Blurry   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 07:06:14 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: Blurry has never seen Spinone spit before!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:07:01 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

It was in an email sent by Rev. Grund to one of our monkeys, who was questioning who the man in the picture with Cindy was.  Hopefully thats enough so you can do a forum search.

thanks Today....I am search illiterate...but hope a smart monkey will be able to find it.  JANET WHERE ARE YOU!!!!
Boo....I have caught your CRUD!~ ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL, you wanted to know which monkey talked to Rev. Grund and then chastised me for giving you my cold. One in the same person!!!  Sorry, but you should have been sharing my tea the other night!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sending over more whiskey and honey.

HIC!!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

hahahaha...I have been dodging nanners here for over 3 years.....getting pretty good at it ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 02, 2009, 07:08:26 PM
Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape
Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Mystery Videotape Could Hold Clue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html


Yesterday on CNN Padilla said the PI was talking to Joy Wray on the phone. Guess he doesn't know who it was today..........



Yeah.  LP did say that, yesterday.    This is crazy.        ::MonkeyConfused::



This is bull!! No wonder we're confused, what's stated as fact one day changes to something else the next day. The only facts we can believe are the ones that come from LE, and they aren't saying much. I'm going back to "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". My first impression is going to be what I believe until LE releases more info!!!!And right now, that impression is that a whole bunch of people, including those blood related to this case, are involved in some very illegal stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:08:52 PM


Uh, Boo? Member that teapot you won? Seems the contents were the wrong mix. See, on New Year's Eve, I finished my 13 page (referenced, with cites and everything!) final paper. Then I started reading (finally!) Harry Potter. And...it seems I may have mixed up a potion other than what I told you was in the teapot. How do I know? Because it seems as tho the contents haven't run out...and the effects you display do not match my intentions. Yah, so my magic wand is a little warped...

so, if you want to send the teapot back, I'll understand. If not, let me know when you "feel better" so I can adjust the spell next time! ::MonkeyLaugh::

(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)

Oh no!! Please tell me you weren't doing the Polyjuice Potion!! I wondered why when I woke up this afternoon I had all the dog toys around me and my dog was tuckered out from playing!!  ::MonkeyEek::
Next batch needs to be a Pepperup potion!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 07:09:29 PM

(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 

Anthony brought her gas evidently right in front of where she dumped Caylee, but she would not let him close to the car.

Ok, thanks Turbo! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:09:50 PM

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
::MonkeyEek::  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 
More spin. Press conference and we still will not know anything, because it will be, I can't answer this, and I can't answer that. ::MonkeyConfused::

But I am already so very dizzy!!! ::MonkeyConfused::



 :smt045   :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:10:44 PM
If Hoover taped over the footage - I bet it was after the story came out that he had it.  Don't most video cameras work with memory stick anymore?  I bet the FBI can recover it ... or hope so anyway.

I agree. And unless there is some really obvious landmark, how can they prove exactly where the footage was taken?  I would think alot of the wooded areas there look alike.


LP said they were IIRC about 600 yards from the actual dump site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape
Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Mystery Videotape Could Hold Clue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html


Yesterday on CNN Padilla said the PI was talking to Joy Wray on the phone. Guess he doesn't know who it was today..........



Yeah.  LP did say that, yesterday.    This is crazy.        ::MonkeyConfused::



This is bull!! No wonder we're confused, what's stated as fact one day changes to something else the next day. The only facts we can believe are the ones that come from LE, and they aren't saying much. I'm going back to "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". My first impression is going to be what I believe until LE releases more info!!!!And right now, that impression is that a whole bunch of people, including those blood related to this case, are involved in some very illegal stuff.
YEP Illegal stuff form the relatives. Book em Dano. Or kind sweet cuddly Sheriff Beary! You only have a few more days in office. MAKE IT GOOD!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:12:48 PM
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Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM
Quote

Leroy!  I thought I was the only one who noticed that!  Bearly seems so sweet that I didn't think much of it.  Once I picked my name, I thought it might be a problem.

At least you got dressed too. 

It was even funnier coming from Bearly!  And by the way, WELCOME Blurry   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Yes, welcome to the cage, blurrymonkey!

I made a special welcome sign JUST for you!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/blurry.gif)

Get it?!?!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:13:21 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 02, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
Richard Grund stated in an e-mail to a fellow monkey (I think) that Cindy had a live-in boyfriend during the time George was not living in the home.

Lisa

He did not say the guy in the picture was Cindy's live in, just said he could have been. 

The picture was strange.  George looked photoshopped in to me.  It also looked like an older picture of Cindy, hair and weight wrong, for it to have been a friend visiting after remains found.  I thought the guy looked a little like Cindy, however I am 99.9% sure it wasn't Rick.
Yes,he looked like he could have been one of Cindy's 3 brother's.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 07:13:33 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

But most parents who kill their children out of rage it is one punch or they throw them, they dont beat them.

Narcissistics who go into a homicidal rage, often do so with 'overkill'. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:13:44 PM



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sending over more whiskey and honey.
[/quote]

Ooohh, pick me, pick me   ::MonkeyCool::
[/quote]


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 07:15:32 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:15:39 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


She is new...we gave her a pass on that one!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: N2WISHN on January 02, 2009, 07:15:49 PM
joesamas mama

YES!! I want to see them all arrested on Sheriff Beary's watch!! Then we'll have pizza.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: Blurry has never seen Spinone spit before!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ooooo it's deadly! You have to duck and dodge and sometimes Stop drop and roll! Always have a towel too!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:18:03 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::


Howdy All.

Boo, I see you are doing better with all the food and tea and whiskey. I just got back from Brandi's Boutique and picked up SAM"S new outfit for V-Day. But you have to go over there and make a  request and then like magic....Voila!! Now I do NOT want you driving over there as you have been drinking all day!! I'll drive anytime,day or night!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Hang on..Here we go....http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.new#new

Thanks Brandi. He looks great. xoxo



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:18:22 PM
Quote
Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM
Quote

Leroy!  I thought I was the only one who noticed that!  Bearly seems so sweet that I didn't think much of it.  Once I picked my name, I thought it might be a problem.

At least you got dressed too. 

It was even funnier coming from Bearly!  And by the way, WELCOME Blurry   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Yes, welcome to the cage, blurrymonkey!

I made a special welcome sign JUST for you!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/blurry.gif)

Get it?!?!

 ::MonkeyDance::


hahahah, cough, hahahahal cough!! blurry is right....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:18:25 PM
joesamas mama

YES!! I want to see them all arrested on Sheriff Beary's watch!! Then we'll have pizza.

Me too!

I forget, when does he leave office? Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 07:19:53 PM

(bolded by me)

Casey supposedly 'ran out of gas' in what turned out to be the area of the crime scene and called someone, didn't she?  I've read discussion before on whether she did that on purpose, so that it would cover her in case anyone else had seen her car parked at that spot.  Didn't someone come out and bring her some gas? 

 

Anthony brought her gas evidently right in front of where she dumped Caylee, but she would not let him close to the car.

Am I understanding this correctly...
KC's car ran out of gas, at the exact spot where Caylee was found and Anthony brought her gas?

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:20:41 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::


Howdy All.

Boo, I see you are doing better with all the food and tea and whiskey. I just got back from Brandi's Boutique and picked up SAM"S new outfit for V-Day. But you have to go over there and make a  request and then like magic....Voila!! Now I do NOT want you driving over there as you have been drinking all day!! I'll drive anytime,day or night!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Hang on..Here we go....http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.new#new

Thanks Brandi. He looks great. xoxo



You are more than welcome!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 07:21:40 PM
Sunny, you are hilarious, though you may have to dodge a few nanners.

Boo, thanks for your help.  I may have to drop that topic, because too much delving into others' lives makes me feel weird (and I mean me, not you here, as your behavior seems to have been very respectful).

SEE EVERYBODY, BLURRY THINKS I'M RESPECTFUL!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: Blurry has never seen Spinone spit before!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ooooo it's deadly! You have to duck and dodge and sometimes Stop drop and roll! Always have a towel too!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Why do I need a towel?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
Ok, I'm confused.  Who is Spinone?  A fur baby?  And why is everyone laughing for me calling Boo respectful.  I am not drinking tea full of, um, additives.  Although having a stupid head/respiratory cold may have cut my IQ in half.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 07:22:17 PM
Good grief!  George was just gone for 6 months, wasn't he?  Cindy sure didn't let any grass grow under her feet, if she had somebody move in with her while he was gone.  Just when I think I have heard it all about this family, here comes something else.  Could he and Casey have gotten together?  Gee, I thought Cindy was so thrilled about Caylee during that time that she would not have seen anyone else at all.  And what kind of man would move in with a woman who has an unmarried teen and the newborn living with her?  Never mind. 
Interesting. The pattern of using others for financial support came from Cindy. Like mother like daughter, getting boyfriends to pay the bills.

I posted this earlier.  My thinking is Cindy didn't just get a boyfriend after George left. Had to be sometime before the left:

I am throwing this out there for comsumption only:

It was said on here that Cindy was living with someone when George left after Caylee was born.  Could the hostility of Cindy and KC come from the fact that Mom had a boyfriend and maybe that boyfriend and KC got together and Caylee is the product of that?  That would explain why Cindy wouldn't let her abort the baby, would explain why George left after Caylee was born and almost resulted in divorce.  I can see KC holding this over Mom and Dad's heads for the rest of their lives.  (JMO)
why do you think cindy had a boyfriend before george left?
IMO, I think cindy would be in FAVOR of an abortion if it were a product of an "affair" between kc and cindy's boyfriend (wouldn't cindy be jealous, hurt and angry?) JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:23:35 PM
Tonight on Greta:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

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  ::MonkeyShocked:: Does she take call in questions like NG? If so, PLEASE tell Red to call in the show.

No she doesn't and my guess is the better part of tonights show will be pre-recorded.
  ::MonkeyWaa:: Too bad. Red could rip her a new one. Thanks for the answer.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Here is a link to the blog.....can spew her comments here.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
  ::MonkeyShocked:: Spew whos commets there? Red's comments?

Nothing against her comments, but she can spit them out on this blog, and tell Greta what she wanted to tell in the email. 
I don't understand, who is she? Red? He left her a comment on Greta's blog yesterday and his post was censored. I am totally confused, please help me out?

Sorry, I gues I am the one confused.  I thought she was trying to post something to Greta, and it was refused.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:25:03 PM
Ok, I'm confused.  Who is Spinone?  A fur baby?  And why is everyone laughing for me calling Boo respectful.  I am not drinking tea full of, um, additives.  Although having a stupid head/respiratory cold may have cut my IQ in half.

blurry, did you miss my special welcome to you?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/blurry.gif)

Get it?  LOL ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:25:33 PM
Look at ME!!! I'm so beautiful!!! Thank you so much!!!!  ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:26:01 PM
Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape
Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.


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VIDEO REPORT: Mystery Videotape Could Hold Clue
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Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html


Yesterday on CNN Padilla said the PI was talking to Joy Wray on the phone. Guess he doesn't know who it was today..........



Yeah.  LP did say that, yesterday.    This is crazy.        ::MonkeyConfused::



This is bull!! No wonder we're confused, what's stated as fact one day changes to something else the next day. The only facts we can believe are the ones that come from LE, and they aren't saying much. I'm going back to "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". My first impression is going to be what I believe until LE releases more info!!!!And right now, that impression is that a whole bunch of people, including those blood related to this case, are involved in some very illegal stuff.

No Sh!T ::MonkeyConfused:: That's what I have been talking about all day, supposition and theory just muddies the water and shouldn't be spit out as fact as we hear almost nightly........h@ll, I need the pain meds  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:27:11 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny! I didn't know to go look!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:28:01 PM
Look at ME!!! I'm so beautiful!!! Thank you so much!!!!  ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel::

You sure are!!  Glad you changed clothes is was starting to get a little smelly in the cage ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:30:13 PM



No Sh!T ::MonkeyConfused:: That's what I have been talking about all day, supposition and theory just muddies the water and shouldn't be spit out as fact as we hear almost nightly........h@ll, I need the pain meds  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yep!  Can't wait to hear what the new story/theory/reveal is tonight!!  Boo has  the  drug stash!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:30:19 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::
[/quote


She's gotta cut back on the tea.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:31:00 PM
Ok, I'm confused.  Who is Spinone?  A fur baby?  And why is everyone laughing for me calling Boo respectful.  I am not drinking tea full of, um, additives.  Although having a stupid head/respiratory cold may have cut my IQ in half.

Don't listen to them Blurry, they are just jealous cause I'm your friend. Tevye makes the BEST tea! It will clear that head cold right up and THEN some!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 07:31:12 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  We can only wish!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:31:19 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny! I didn't know to go look!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

You found Brandi's and you are BEAUTIFUL!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:31:53 PM
Brandi, I do get it, and it's great.  Once I figure out how to save it, I can scramble all new monkeys' eyes with my initial greeting.  Thanks for being so generous with your talents--your new avi is absolutely gorgeous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:32:35 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.
I think they would have to drag her out kicking and screaming....OH I'd LOVE to see that happen!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 07:32:54 PM
I now believe KC killed her deliberately and in that house. An accident is not even remotely possible.  I believe she beat her unconscious and most likely broke her neck at the time. I now believe they had been "keeping an eye" on the body to make sure all evidence was gone before someone "found" it. If she broke her neck the head would be detached from the spinal column after the tissue break down and evidently that is the case now.

I would like to see them send the full vertebrae and the skull to Dr. Bill Bass at the Body Farm. He has found evidence before of foul play when other ME's have missed it in the bone structure.

There is something about her bones being scattered in such a large area which is bothering me. I can't put my finger on it yet, but it is there. Small animals will take them with flesh on them to eat, but there were not animal markings on the bones. That is impossible if the animals scattered them.

So WHY were they scattered so far and wide?
Oh Turbo, I dont think she beat Caylee.... I think she either overdosed her or allowed her to climb the pool steps and drown.

I did at first, but now I don't. She went into a raging fit and I believe killed her on the spot without thinking twice about it.  I believe was doing meth or something like it and went into a meth and/or crack rage. I know many of her friends said she did not do drugs, but I don't believe it, and I believe it will eventually come out.

But most parents who kill their children out of rage it is one punch or they throw them, they dont beat them.

Narcissistics who go into a homicidal rage, often do so with 'overkill'. 

 

That is true, and many times without drugs involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:33:27 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::
[/quote


She's gotta cut back on the tea.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

especially the mushroom tea ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:33:37 PM
Why do I need a towel?????

The Spinone dog breed is a wonderful breed, but when they take a drink of water or are over excited they drool... bad. Then they want a kiss or shake their heads and the spit takes on a life of it's own. Mine is not too bad, but his Daddy is terrible!! Honestly it's minor compared to the love and devotion you get from them!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 07:34:08 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.
I think they would have to drag her out kicking and screaming....OH I'd LOVE to see that happen!!!

I would pay good money to see it............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.

How blaise JJ, I was thinking more of the bus scene in Final Destination! j/king!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:35:48 PM



No Sh!T ::MonkeyConfused:: That's what I have been talking about all day, supposition and theory just muddies the water and shouldn't be spit out as fact as we hear almost nightly........h@ll, I need the pain meds  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yep!  Can't wait to hear what the new story/theory/reveal is tonight!!  Boo has  the  drug stash!! ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyEek:: OHHHHHH~do you think she'll share, plsss. I'll let you come live at the beach for the entire trial ::MonkeyTongue:: (which may be held in our county, yep we are on the list).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 02, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
Why do I need a towel?????

The Spinone dog breed is a wonderful breed, but when they take a drink of water or are over excited they drool... bad. Then they want a kiss or shake their heads and the spit takes on a life of it's own. Mine is not too bad, but his Daddy is terrible!! Honestly it's minor compared to the love and devotion you get from them!  ::MonkeyWink::

I have a cat that drools.  He gets on my lap and kneads, purrs and drools.

He's pretty stupid-looking, too, but he's my baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:36:45 PM
Brandi, I do get it, and it's great.  Once I figure out how to save it, I can scramble all new monkeys' eyes with my initial greeting.  Thanks for being so generous with your talents--your new avi is absolutely gorgeous.

Thank you!
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 07:36:45 PM
Good afternoon you good monkeys,

Does anyone have a link to information about Cindy's live-in bf?  I've read about it on threads but don't know how this all came out.

First I heard of it was fairly recently when Rev. Grund mentioned it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:38:01 PM
Geesh..I just get caught up and the hubby is pounding on the cage for me to come out. I think he needs some attention. I will see you in the morning.

Trimm, thanks for looking after all the sick monkeys. Seems we have a bunch not feeling well.

Hi Bearly, Sorry I missed you.

And Leroy..You are a hoot. Are you the one who likes to run around with no cloths?? Were you at that party with Casey??

No immunity for NO ONE. JMO

Mio and Boo..Get better soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 07:38:16 PM
JJ I will not debate with you about Tim Miller and LP...let's agree to just disagree....OK
OK. Love ya!

Just want to say... Good job, both of you, in arriving at a peaceful solution.   :smt023




 :smt052 Wyks,life is good in the cage isn't it?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:39:20 PM
Why do I need a towel?????

The Spinone dog breed is a wonderful breed, but when they take a drink of water or are over excited they drool... bad. Then they want a kiss or shake their heads and the spit takes on a life of it's own. Mine is not too bad, but his Daddy is terrible!! Honestly it's minor compared to the love and devotion you get from them!  ::MonkeyWink::

I have a cat that drools.  He gets on my lap and kneads, purrs and drools.

He's pretty stupid-looking, too, but he's my baby.

Janetruth~I had a cat like that when I was a kid, it was like it wsa nursing everything and now I have a 200lb St. Bernard who DOESN'T drool, go figure ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny! I didn't know to go look!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

You found Brandi's and you are BEAUTIFUL!!!

I don't want to take credit for someone else's work, sunny!

Boo's new look was provided by CBB, not me ;-)

And she does look great!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.
I think they would have to drag her out kicking and screaming....OH I'd LOVE to see that happen!!!

I would pay good money to see it............

Oh man, I would pay to see that too! Leroy? Sweetie? Get your wallet out!! I hope some nice monkey would then post it here and loop it over and over!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 07:40:04 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.
Thanks Always! I love Tulsa. It was great the half year I lived there. I went to Foster Middle School. I had never lived in a BIG city before that. I was in the 7th grade, but went back in my late twenties for bowling tournements at I think Sheridan Lanes. The great thing about Tulsa, I could get us around town 20 years later. Their street grids are great.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:41:47 PM
Geesh..I just get caught up and the hubby is pounding on the cage for me to come out. I think he needs some attention. I will see you in the morning.

Trimm, thanks for looking after all the sick monkeys. Seems we have a bunch not feeling well.

Hi Bearly, Sorry I missed you.

And Leroy..You are a hoot. Are you the one who likes to run around with no cloths?? Were you at that party with Casey??

No immunity for NO ONE. JMO

Mio and Boo..Get better soon.

Bye Scarrlett and SAM! Have a great evening!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:42:04 PM



No Sh!T ::MonkeyConfused:: That's what I have been talking about all day, supposition and theory just muddies the water and shouldn't be spit out as fact as we hear almost nightly........h@ll, I need the pain meds  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yep!  Can't wait to hear what the new story/theory/reveal is tonight!!  Boo has  the  drug stash!! ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyEek:: OHHHHHH~do you think she'll share, plsss. I'll let you come live at the beach for the entire trial ::MonkeyTongue:: (which may be held in our county, yep we are on the list).

Of course I will share!! We can sit on the beach under an umbrella with a big screen TV and drink lots of tea and eat nanner bread!! All monkeys are welcome!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

ROLL TIDE

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

ROLL TIDE

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::
                                                                   
ROLL TIDE

  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


sorry, couldn't help myself


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:42:56 PM
Caylee Anthony case: Former detective for Anthony family blasts report that he knew where the remains were
posted by halboedeker on Jan 2, 2009 5:56:26 PM

<snipped>
Dominic Casey talked to WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing in a report that aired tonight. The private eye said he went to the woods to check a tip by a friend of Casey Anthony, who is accused of daughter Caylee's murder.

On Wednesday, WFTV-Channel 9 explored inconsistencies in the stories of two private eyes who worked for the Anthony family. One, Jim Hoover, said he was told in November where Caylee's body was hidden, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told WFTV. Who told Hoover? Private eye Casey, Padilla said.

Article:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...e-detecti.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

good morning there trim.  Im catching up.  Do we know when caylee's funeral is going to be yet? 

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::

Hey there Lucinda!! I heard Australia was having some Internet troubles? We have missed you. Happy New Year.....AND
Hi Trimmonthelake...Thanks for that link. You are a real early bird. Hope all is well for you.  ::MonkeyWink::

I have been catching up as well and the JP CHATT theory has me a bit intrigued. BUT, as Desdemona points out,I do not think she knew him them. I had a suspicion that Sean Daly just might be, or at least KNOW.

 I would love to have a year book back at the time Caylee was conceived. I said it before and I'll say it again, "Ask the best friends. They will surely have a clue" and if not, then a more sinister theory is plausible.
Also Sean Daly is not on the witness list. There is another girl that would not speak to LE. I have to look that up.

You know, I've always thought that if anyone knows the identity of Caylee's father, it's got to be Annie Downing...  Is that who you mean?  She did eventually talk to LE, but they (perhaps meaningfully) have not released her interviews yet... I think there are bombshells to come when we finally hear from Annie.

Oh wait.  Or do you mean Katie R.  who supposedly worked at Sawgrass Apartments and who postponed her LE interview, then told them she'd rather not talk to them?  I don't think she was a close friend of Casey's, but she did point LE to Vicky Aleman, who also lived at Sawgrass, knew some of Casey's friends, and may be someone whose personal details Casey could have woven into her crazy Zanny story ... oh, it's so confusing!
 ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes Desdemona...That is her.  ::MonkeyDance:: Vicky Aleman knew Casey better than Katie but the girl refused to talk to LE. Why,oh WHY, would you not want to help find a baby girl?? Can you really refuse to talk to LE?? I find THIS highly suspicious and wonder why LE let it slide!!??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:45:14 PM
Caylee Anthony case: Former detective for Anthony family blasts report that he knew where the remains were
posted by halboedeker on Jan 2, 2009 5:56:26 PM

Latest twist in the Caylee Anthony story: A case of he said, he said. And both men are private detectives.

Private detective Dominic Casey has blasted as "ludicrous" a report that he knew where the toddler's remains were before they were found.

Dominic Casey talked to WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing in a report that aired tonight. The private eye said he went to the woods to check a tip by a friend of Casey Anthony, who is accused of daughter Caylee's murder.

On Wednesday, WFTV-Channel 9 explored inconsistencies in the stories of two private eyes who worked for the Anthony family. The other, Jim Hoover, said he was told in November where Caylee's body was hidden, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told WFTV. Who told Hoover? Private eye Casey, Padilla said. In the same WFTV report, Dominic Casey said he and Hoover looked in that spot in November to rule out the friend's tip. A meter reader later found the child's remains in December.

WFTV reported tonight that Hoover plans to hold a news conference on Monday. Kathi Belich reported that sources told her Hoover and Dominic Casey were in the woods on Nov. 15 and 16.

"Law enforcement is trying to find out if inside information brought them there," Belich said.

Padilla said he saw detective Casey talking on a phone in a November videotape shot by Hoover. Belich raised questions: Who was Dominic Casey talking to? Could Hoover have more evidence to share?

In the WESH report today, Dominic Casey said he will pursue legal action against Hoover for making false claims. (Hoover did not return WESH's calls, Kealing said.)

"I find it appalling that somebody would profit from a missing child. It sickens me," Dominic Casey said. He said he plans to talk to authorities after Caylee's memorial. But Kealing said the private eye has "no smoking-gun evidence against Casey Anthony."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:45:21 PM
Geesh..I just get caught up and the hubby is pounding on the cage for me to come out. I think he needs some attention. I will see you in the morning.

Trimm, thanks for looking after all the sick monkeys. Seems we have a bunch not feeling well.

Hi Bearly, Sorry I missed you.

And Leroy..You are a hoot. Are you the one who likes to run around with no cloths?? Were you at that party with Casey??

No immunity for NO ONE. JMO

Mio and Boo..Get better soon.


'Nite Scarlett. If it makes you feel any better,my Grandson has tried to fry my brain with SpongeBob today.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:46:10 PM
Look at ME!!! I'm so beautiful!!! Thank you so much!!!!  ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel::
You never needed flashy stuff to be beautiful, Boo.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:46:50 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.
I think they would have to drag her out kicking and screaming....OH I'd LOVE to see that happen!!!

I would pay good money to see it............

Not much time....  Hubby sick of me on the computer!  Are we waiting for big news? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:47:14 PM

In the WESH report today, Dominic Casey said he will pursue legal action against Hoover for making false claims. (Hoover did not return WESH's calls, Kealing said.)

"I find it appalling that somebody would profit from a missing child. It sickens me," Dominic Casey said. He said he plans to talk to authorities after Caylee's memorial. But Kealing said the private eye has "no smoking-gun evidence against Casey Anthony."

::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:47:30 PM



No Sh!T ::MonkeyConfused:: That's what I have been talking about all day, supposition and theory just muddies the water and shouldn't be spit out as fact as we hear almost nightly........h@ll, I need the pain meds  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yep!  Can't wait to hear what the new story/theory/reveal is tonight!!  Boo has  the  drug stash!! ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyEek:: OHHHHHH~do you think she'll share, plsss. I'll let you come live at the beach for the entire trial ::MonkeyTongue:: (which may be held in our county, yep we are on the list).

Of course I will share!! We can sit on the beach under an umbrella with a big screen TV and drink lots of tea and eat nanner bread!! All monkeys are welcome!!!

sounds good to me, but my house isn't that big.........come to think of it, last year at one time there were 14 "guest" downstairs !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 07:48:06 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

Grama (that's what I call MY grandma) LOVE your avi!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 07:48:08 PM
Quote
Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM
Quote

Leroy!  I thought I was the only one who noticed that!  Bearly seems so sweet that I didn't think much of it.  Once I picked my name, I thought it might be a problem.

At least you got dressed too. 

It was even funnier coming from Bearly!  And by the way, WELCOME Blurry   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Yes, welcome to the cage, blurrymonkey!

I made a special welcome sign JUST for you!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/blurry.gif)

Get it?!?!

 ::MonkeyDance::

ROFLMAO  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:50:22 PM
Caylee Anthony case: Former detective for Anthony family blasts report that he knew where the remains were
posted by halboedeker on Jan 2, 2009 5:56:26 PM

<snipped>
Dominic Casey talked to WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing in a report that aired tonight. The private eye said he went to the woods to check a tip by a friend of Casey Anthony, who is accused of daughter Caylee's murder.

On Wednesday, WFTV-Channel 9 explored inconsistencies in the stories of two private eyes who worked for the Anthony family. One, Jim Hoover, said he was told in November where Caylee's body was hidden, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told WFTV. Who told Hoover? Private eye Casey, Padilla said.

Article:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...e-detecti.html

You know LE is going to be due a big raise once this is all over! Really I have no idea how they keep up!! This case probably has it own file cabinet room!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If ANYBODY KNEW that baby was out in the woods before she was found I hope LE nails their azz to the wall. It is a sick person that would let her stay one second out there longer!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:50:35 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny! I didn't know to go look!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

You found Brandi's and you are BEAUTIFUL!!!

I don't want to take credit for someone else's work, sunny!

Boo's new look was provided by CBB, not me ;-)

And she does look great!

You both do such outstanding work....y'all constantly amaze me....so whoever did ut ,,,THANK YOU!!!!  You and CCB are the bestest!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scarrlett on January 02, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
Look at ME!!! I'm so beautiful!!! Thank you so much!!!!  ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel::

I see you got there. You look FANTASTIC!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Night Guys. XOXO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 07:53:32 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/43998459-17082037.jpg)

This?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
Interesting conversation today!
I need an Excel spreadsheet to figure all this out.
Here are the possibilities if Casey acted alone summing up from all we've talked about.
1. Motive
Narcissistic Personality disorder, needed to be center of attention
Sociopath, wanted to party and has no remorse
Anger, fight with parents over mothering style and responsibility
Revenge, hated her controlling mother
Incest, victimized and lashed out

2. Means
Drown, accident
Suffocated in the home, then removed her on the 15th or 16th
Choloformed in the trunk, evening of the 16th
Drugged in carseat and moved to trunk, added chloroform to keep her asleep OD
Killed in motel room, overdose of drugs

3. Disposal
She drove around with the baby double bagged in the trunk and flung her in the woods when the smell was overwhelming
She had a little ceremony at the pet graveyard
She had Lee dispose of the body for her and met her car at Amscot lot

4. Cover up
Made up kidnapping story, thought it would be believed and over in a day or so
Ran away to Tony's and stayed for 30 days, hiding
Covered tracks, disposed of toys and other items
Cleaned car, she didn't at all
Partied to find baby, and went on as life was normal while she could
She never came up with an alibi, she just moved on not trying very hard

5. Defense
Abused and confused after she confesses, begs for mercy
Denies and sticks with Nanny kidnapping story, hopes for mercy

6. Results
She gets death penalty
She gets life without parole
She gets mental institution
She gets acquited because doubt
None of the lawyers ever get paid but the publicity makes them more valuable
Cindy and George divorce
Zaneida sues and wins





7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:54:57 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/43998459-17082037.jpg)

This?

YEP!  Thanks Brandi!!  Can you sparkle up the twins????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 07:55:32 PM
Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You know you love me CBB! Btw, I'm still wearing my NY outfit, I noticed others are decked out for Valentines day, man, I wish I had an outfit..... but I guess I'll just sit here and keep ringing in the new year, over and over and over and over again.....  ::MonkeyWink::

Ding Dong, Ding Dong......did you look in the avatar thread ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny! I didn't know to go look!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

You found Brandi's and you are BEAUTIFUL!!!

I don't want to take credit for someone else's work, sunny!

Boo's new look was provided by CBB, not me ;-)

And she does look great!

You both do such outstanding work....y'all constantly amaze me....so whoever did ut ,,,THANK YOU!!!!  You and CCB are the bestest!!!

I agree!    The greatest!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:56:06 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

Grama (that's what I call MY grandma) LOVE your avi!

I know he looks ugly, but he needs hugs tooooooooo. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:56:35 PM
Interesting conversation today!
I need an Excel spreadsheet to figure all this out.
Here are the possibilities if Casey acted alone summing up from all we've talked about.
1. Motive
Narcissistic Personality disorder, needed to be center of attention
Sociopath, wanted to party and has no remorse
Anger, fight with parents over mothering style and responsibility
Revenge, hated her controlling mother
Incest, victimized and lashed out

2. Means
Drown, accident
Suffocated in the home, then removed her on the 15th or 16th
Choloformed in the trunk, evening of the 16th
Drugged in carseat and moved to trunk, added chloroform to keep her asleep OD
Killed in motel room, overdose of drugs

3. Disposal
She drove around with the baby double bagged in the trunk and flung her in the woods when the smell was overwhelming
She had a little ceremony at the pet graveyard
She had Lee dispose of the body for her and met her car at Amscot lot

4. Cover up
Made up kidnapping story, thought it would be believed and over in a day or so
Ran away to Tony's and stayed for 30 days, hiding
Covered tracks, disposed of toys and other items
Cleaned car, she didn't at all
Partied to find baby, and went on as life was normal while she could
She never came up with an alibi, she just moved on not trying very hard

5. Defense
Abused and confused after she confesses, begs for mercy
Denies and sticks with Nanny kidnapping story, hopes for mercy

6. Results
She gets death penalty
She gets life without parole
She gets mental institution
She gets acquited because doubt
None of the lawyers ever get paid but the publicity makes them more valuable
Cindy and George divorce
Zaneida sues and wins





7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


 ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:57:05 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: anothermonkey on January 02, 2009, 07:57:24 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

UPDATE 5:15 PM ET -- Police just released more details. According to a report, Jett was last seen going into the bathroom at their private suite at the Old Bahama Bay Resort sometime yesterday. The body was discovered by the caretaker, Jeff Michael Kathrein (pictured bottom right with Travolta in 2006), at 10:00 AM today. The report says Jett suffered from seizures.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/02/john-travoltas-son-dies/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shy Monkey on January 02, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Hi Mom and Welcome...a big hug to your son and you and your family for the sacrifices you are making to keep us free and safe.

I MomofaMarine, welcome and I also want to thank your son, you and your family for the sacrifices you are making.  (My husband and I each served 20 years in the Air Force, they were some of the best years of our life. )
God bless ::cartwheel::!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 07:59:13 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?
]

JJ I think you  missed a step....it came from casey to BJ to the PI.....remember he is the messenger


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 07:59:40 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 07:59:47 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Go JJ..Get Your Groove On.....  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 08:00:07 PM
I believe part 2 of the NG special is on now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 08:00:31 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?

Casey has been incarcerated since October 14. No cell phones for her in jail.

You made me think though, how close was the remains site to where Tony drove her to her car when they got the gas out of the shed?

Anyone know where exactly that was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 08:00:40 PM
ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!

 :smt098


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

UPDATE 5:15 PM ET -- Police just released more details. According to a report, Jett was last seen going into the bathroom at their private suite at the Old Bahama Bay Resort sometime yesterday. The body was discovered by the caretaker, Jeff Michael Kathrein (pictured bottom right with Travolta in 2006), at 10:00 AM today. The report says Jett suffered from seizures.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/02/john-travoltas-son-dies/
The kid went to take a bath? and go to bed? And the parents didn't check up on him? Tragic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: O4Bull on January 02, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
Hopefully the news will be that Cindy is to be arrested. Then on the way to turn herself in she disappears under an overpass.

How blaise JJ, I was thinking more of the bus scene in Final Destination! j/king!!!!
you are an evil little doggy, but I have to say you made me LOL on that thought (I know you weren't j/king either!) ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
I believe part 2 of the NG special is on now

Thanks! Did not realize it is 8 PM already here! Just turned it on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:02:15 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!

I got a laptop - you got gas   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 08:03:28 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

UPDATE 5:15 PM ET -- Police just released more details. According to a report, Jett was last seen going into the bathroom at their private suite at the Old Bahama Bay Resort sometime yesterday. The body was discovered by the caretaker, Jeff Michael Kathrein (pictured bottom right with Travolta in 2006), at 10:00 AM today. The report says Jett suffered from seizures.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/02/john-travoltas-son-dies/

So sad......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

Are they charging for it, again?   If so, how much?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:03:56 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?

Casey has been incarcerated since October 14. No cell phones for her in jail.

You made me think though, how close was the remains site to where Tony drove her to her car when they got the gas out of the shed?

Anyone know where exactly that was?

So she had to have written a note or told Baez right?
Were there any other visitors to the jail between Oct 14 and Nov 14th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 08:04:08 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.
Thanks Always! I love Tulsa. It was great the half year I lived there. I went to Foster Middle School. I had never lived in a BIG city before that. I was in the 7th grade, but went back in my late twenties for bowling tournements at I think Sheridan Lanes. The great thing about Tulsa, I could get us around town 20 years later. Their street grids are great.
I have bowled at Sherdian Lanes many a time.  I live at 7lst and Yale.  Do you know where that is??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 08:04:24 PM
My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Hi MomofaMarine, and welcome to the cage!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)

Hope you're feeling better real soon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 08:04:38 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

UPDATE 5:15 PM ET -- Police just released more details. According to a report, Jett was last seen going into the bathroom at their private suite at the Old Bahama Bay Resort sometime yesterday. The body was discovered by the caretaker, Jeff Michael Kathrein (pictured bottom right with Travolta in 2006), at 10:00 AM today. The report says Jett suffered from seizures.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/02/john-travoltas-son-dies/
WOW ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!

I got a laptop - you got gas   ::MonkeyWink:: 

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:05:41 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

Are they charging for it, again?   If so, how much?
12.50 for a year subscription.
Daddy needs a new cowboy hat.
The forum is where the only real LP and Cutie Rob can be found!!! I just want to see what he's all about and his connections. And he's sexy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 08:05:51 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/43998459-17082037.jpg)

This?



 :smt116  :smt078   :puker:   :pukel: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:06:30 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 08:07:19 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?

Casey has been incarcerated since October 14. No cell phones for her in jail.

You made me think though, how close was the remains site to where Tony drove her to her car when they got the gas out of the shed?

Anyone know where exactly that was?

So she had to have written a note or told Baez right?
Were there any other visitors to the jail between Oct 14 and Nov 14th?


To date, she has not had any visitors except for clergy and lawyers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:09:19 PM
Is Casey allowed to call JB whenever she wants?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 08:09:52 PM
Hey you girl and boy monkeys:  FTLOG, please please don't talk about Cindy having a boyfriend, at least not around dinner time here in Arizona!  I'm having a hard time keeping my sphagetti O's down!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 08:11:13 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.

Are they charging for it, again?   If so, how much?
12.50 for a year subscription.
Daddy needs a new cowboy hat.
The forum is where the only real LP and Cutie Rob can be found!!! I just want to see what he's all about and his connections. And he's sexy!

Thanks.   I was a member before - and it was fun when Rob would come on and answer questions. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 08:11:39 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!


 ::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: theboyzmom on January 02, 2009, 08:12:45 PM
Watching NG - my hubby made and interesting comment - perhaps Cindy called and reported the car stolen because she knew what was going on and started the cover up then - rationalizing that CA would not hurt Caylee and the car was abandoned - therefore the car must have been stolen and another dead body put in it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:14:15 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?

Casey has been incarcerated since October 14. No cell phones for her in jail.

You made me think though, how close was the remains site to where Tony drove her to her car when they got the gas out of the shed?

Anyone know where exactly that was?

So she had to have written a note or told Baez right?
Were there any other visitors to the jail between Oct 14 and Nov 14th?


To date, she has not had any visitors except for clergy and lawyers.
But she has mailed letters to family per Lee's instructions. So the PI could have been on the phone with one of the Ants. Which is why they suddenly want immunity and the rumors of accessory were out there.
Someone brought her a can of gas. If it was an Ant then they would have known the spot. Witness to disposal.
Casey will have no choice but to confess and beg for mercy.
If so this is what the work of sLP did exclusively with pursuing these criminals. I'm impressed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 08:16:06 PM
KLAAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hello!!!!!!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: 

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Scatty on January 02, 2009, 08:20:13 PM
This is yesterday's HLN, but I just saw it and although that little attorney is a cutie, I thought he was waay outa line the way he went after LP.
http://caseyanthonycase.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/cnn-hln-news-jan-01-on-caylee-case/
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
Watching NG - my hubby made and interesting comment - perhaps Cindy called and reported the car stolen because she knew what was going on and started the cover up then - rationalizing that CA would not hurt Caylee and the car was abandoned - therefore the car must have been stolen and another dead body put in it.

Yes, quite interesting. Lately I have been trying to "think outside the box" of the opinions I have made about this case. Out on a limb, if you will. LOL

This case sure does blow the mind, eh?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: stayhomemommy on January 02, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
Watching NG - my hubby made and interesting comment - perhaps Cindy called and reported the car stolen because she knew what was going on and started the cover up then - rationalizing that CA would not hurt Caylee and the car was abandoned - therefore the car must have been stolen and another dead body put in it.

Yes, quite interesting. Lately I have been trying to "think outside the box" of the opinions I have made about this case. Out on a limb, if you will. LOL

This case sure does blow the mind, eh?



Indeed, very mind-blowing. Just when I think this case can't get any weirder, it does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: kitkat53 on January 02, 2009, 08:28:14 PM
Cindy and Casey could have had a blow out  because Casey would not give any details to her about where Caylee was so Cindy told her she was gonna report the car stolen and when she did of course self centered Casey admittied that Caylee had been kidnapped. Because without a car she wouldn't as easily been able to come and go as she pleased and party and crap like that. Seems like the stolen car report and the missing child were called out on the same day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shy Monkey on January 02, 2009, 08:30:06 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!
He looks so big on the steps.

He weighs 9 pounds! The Vet says to not let him get any bigger. I had a Tea Cup Chihuahua that was half of my new dogs body weight but he passed away 4 years ago on Christmas Eve.

He is adorable and looks so much like my oldest "baby".  Speedy weighs 10 pounds (was 8 when we rescued him) and his brother Garza now weighs 9 pounds (was 7 when we rescued him).  I think they are taking after me when it comes to putting on a "few" extra pounds! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:30:16 PM
Does anybody know the last time George or Cindy talked to Casey after June 15th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 08:35:20 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:40:43 PM
Dominic Casey has said that James Hoover did not work for him.   James D. Hoover does have a Florida PI license (http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=C%209600570&STATUS=IND_DETAIL).  So, who does James Hoover work for?

There is another PI involved in the case, at least peripherally.  The contact for the October TES search was James Copenhaver.

Texas EquuSearch is expecting 3,000 or more searchers to participate in the search for Caylee.  Each team will need a trained team leader.  Please consider volunteering in this capacity.  We will be holding a formal training session for all team leaders on Friday, November 7, 2008.  You will be provided details once you are registered.
If interested, please contact:
James Copenhaver
Copenhaver & Associates
800 N. Ferncreek Avenue
Orlando, FL  32833
407-897-1184
SearchInOrlando@aol.com
Pasted from <https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS.html>

Copenhaver & Associates (http://www.myfloridapi.com/)


This reminded me of the picture of the interview regarding Larry Garrison and the $6,000.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/30t6zbc.jpg)

I always thought the guy on the left was Copenhaver.  But could it be James Hoover?  Does anyone have a picture of Hoover?  The cowboy is Dennis Martin, who made a scene at Blanchard Park.

The crazy lady, Joy Wray, claims her husband is a PI and works for Baez. The assumption was that he worked with Dominic Casey, but could it be that he works for Copenhaver & Associates?  Does Hoover & Joy Wray's husband both work for Copenhaver?  I can't find anything out about Copenhaver & Associates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:41:14 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?
]

JJ I think you  missed a step....it came from casey to BJ to the PI.....remember he is the messenger
Who is BJ?
Daisy Chain= Casey to BJ to PI? And PI is hired by Ants so the info would be disclosed to them?
And LE has been watching everyone who now have to come up with some answers, the same time Ants ask for immunity?
Seems like a closed case to me, Cindy in Lock Up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:42:19 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


no nanner throwing her, both my step-sons had disassociative disorders, I assume they suffered the same trauma my son did when he was 3yrs old due to all their psychological evals, and they never told their secret so this was their only way to cope.

Personally, I think she is a narcissist + megolamaniac ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:45:19 PM
Dominic Casey has said that James Hoover did not work for him.   James D. Hoover does have a Florida PI license (http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=C%209600570&STATUS=IND_DETAIL).  So, who does James Hoover work for?

There is another PI involved in the case, at least peripherally.  The contact for the October TES search was James Copenhaver.

Texas EquuSearch is expecting 3,000 or more searchers to participate in the search for Caylee.  Each team will need a trained team leader.  Please consider volunteering in this capacity.  We will be holding a formal training session for all team leaders on Friday, November 7, 2008.  You will be provided details once you are registered.
If interested, please contact:
James Copenhaver
Copenhaver & Associates
800 N. Ferncreek Avenue
Orlando, FL  32833
407-897-1184
SearchInOrlando@aol.com
Pasted from <https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS.html>

Copenhaver & Associates (http://www.myfloridapi.com/)


This reminded me of the picture of the interview regarding Larry Garrison and the $6,000.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/30t6zbc.jpg)

I always thought the guy on the left was Copenhaver.  But could it be James Hoover?  Does anyone have a picture of Hoover?  The cowboy is Dennis Martin, who made a scene at Blanchard Park.

The crazy lady, Joy Wray, claims her husband is a PI and works for Baez. The assumption was that he worked with Dominic Casey, but could it be that he works for Copenhaver & Associates?  Does Hoover & Joy Wray's husband both work for Copenhaver?  I can't find anything out about Copenhaver & Associates.

So the PIs worked for Baez but also has association with Tim. That would be a huge conflict of interest!!! Especially if they were using Tims' sonar to find stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 08:47:42 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Wyks, please don't lurk, you always have a lot to add.

Can you email me please ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:48:34 PM
Could someone please re-post the pic of Cindy and her ??? along with George??

Thanks,

YES...thank you.  Is that Richard Grund.  I remember seeing this pic a day or two after they had announced Caylee's remains had been found. 

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/43998459-17082037.jpg)

This?



 :smt116  :smt078   :puker:   :pukel: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Dominic Casey has said that James Hoover did not work for him.   James D. Hoover does have a Florida PI license (http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=C%209600570&STATUS=IND_DETAIL).  So, who does James Hoover work for?

There is another PI involved in the case, at least peripherally.  The contact for the October TES search was James Copenhaver.

Texas EquuSearch is expecting 3,000 or more searchers to participate in the search for Caylee.  Each team will need a trained team leader.  Please consider volunteering in this capacity.  We will be holding a formal training session for all team leaders on Friday, November 7, 2008.  You will be provided details once you are registered.
If interested, please contact:
James Copenhaver
Copenhaver & Associates
800 N. Ferncreek Avenue
Orlando, FL  32833
407-897-1184
SearchInOrlando@aol.com
Pasted from <https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS.html>

Copenhaver & Associates (http://www.myfloridapi.com/)


This reminded me of the picture of the interview regarding Larry Garrison and the $6,000.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/30t6zbc.jpg)

I always thought the guy on the left was Copenhaver.  But could it be James Hoover?  Does anyone have a picture of Hoover?  The cowboy is Dennis Martin, who made a scene at Blanchard Park.

The crazy lady, Joy Wray, claims her husband is a PI and works for Baez. The assumption was that he worked with Dominic Casey, but could it be that he works for Copenhaver & Associates?  Does Hoover & Joy Wray's husband both work for Copenhaver?  I can't find anything out about Copenhaver & Associates.

So the PIs worked for Baez but also has association with Tim. That would be a huge conflict of interest!!! Especially if they were using Tims' sonar to find stuff.

You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.


(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/appl003.gif)  <-----cute, where did you get that clap?

Well said !  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 08:49:05 PM
OMG!   Between not being able to post from work and my laptop in for repair AGAIN!  I've been reading from my Blackberry, but can't post!   It feels good to be free again.    ::cartwheel::

However, I have to give all you Monkeys credit for pretty much speaking my thoughts and feelings.  Only family can do that.   One lil favor though.   Since I can't click on the links you all post from my BB.. I appreciate it, if you copy/past the article.  ;)

Watching NG right now and it's all pretty much reruns, nothing new.  But at least not Nancy ramblings.

I pray everybody had a wonderful New Year and I'm feeling pretty good about it.


I did see  that Greta will be covering it.  I wonder if she has anything new with her hottie  producer on the case!

Ok, back to the topic at hand.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 02, 2009, 08:49:14 PM
]I have bowled at Sherdian Lanes many a time.  I live at 7lst and Yale.  Do you know where that is??

I do, I lived in Tulsa many moons ago. Brandy Chase Condos, 67th and Peoria, we would have been neighbors. I loved Tulsa, but needed to come home to be with family in KC.

Sorry for the OT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:50:04 PM
Dominic Casey has said that James Hoover did not work for him.   James D. Hoover does have a Florida PI license (http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=C%209600570&STATUS=IND_DETAIL).  So, who does James Hoover work for?

There is another PI involved in the case, at least peripherally.  The contact for the October TES search was James Copenhaver.

Texas EquuSearch is expecting 3,000 or more searchers to participate in the search for Caylee.  Each team will need a trained team leader.  Please consider volunteering in this capacity.  We will be holding a formal training session for all team leaders on Friday, November 7, 2008.  You will be provided details once you are registered.
If interested, please contact:
James Copenhaver
Copenhaver & Associates
800 N. Ferncreek Avenue
Orlando, FL  32833
407-897-1184
SearchInOrlando@aol.com
Pasted from <https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/NEWS.html>

Copenhaver & Associates (http://www.myfloridapi.com/)


This reminded me of the picture of the interview regarding Larry Garrison and the $6,000.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/30t6zbc.jpg)

I always thought the guy on the left was Copenhaver.  But could it be James Hoover?  Does anyone have a picture of Hoover?  The cowboy is Dennis Martin, who made a scene at Blanchard Park.

The crazy lady, Joy Wray, claims her husband is a PI and works for Baez. The assumption was that he worked with Dominic Casey, but could it be that he works for Copenhaver & Associates?  Does Hoover & Joy Wray's husband both work for Copenhaver?  I can't find anything out about Copenhaver & Associates.

So the PIs worked for Baez but also has association with Tim. That would be a huge conflict of interest!!! Especially if they were using Tims' sonar to find stuff.

That guy on the far left doesn't look like Hoover to me, there is a video of him actually videoing (sp) Casey's first release when Jose Bozo was snuggling up with her under the umbrella so I doubt he'd be involved with TES as that was way back before Tim ever got involved in the search. I'll try to find the video for y'all. Although, I did wonder why he always seemed to have a video camera out?? Cashola is my best guess ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 08:51:47 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:53:24 PM
Every time I see Lee I really just want to....well, I dont know......stab a pencil in his eye   ::MonkeyCool:: 

I am watching NG and it is a good refresher but gets my blood boiling all over again - this family is unbelievable   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 08:55:14 PM
Every time I see Lee I really just want to....well, I dont know......stab a pencil in his eye   ::MonkeyCool:: 

I am watching NG and it is a good refresher but gets my blood boiling all over again - this family is unbelievable   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Yea I feel the same way and I am also watching the program right now.  I ask myself, why do I do this to myself?

By the way, Leroy, you are a cute monkey.

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 08:55:43 PM
OMG!   Between not being able to post from work and my laptop in for repair AGAIN!  I've been reading from my Blackberry, but can't post!   It feels good to be free again.    ::cartwheel::

However, I have to give all you Monkeys credit for pretty much speaking my thoughts and feelings.  Only family can do that.   One lil favor though.   Since I can't click on the links you all post from my BB.. I appreciate it, if you copy/past the article.  ;)

Watching NG right now and it's all pretty much reruns, nothing new.  But at least not Nancy ramblings.

I pray everybody had a wonderful New Year and I'm feeling pretty good about it.


I did see  that Greta will be covering it.  I wonder if she has anything new with her hottie  producer on the case!

Ok, back to the topic at hand.  ::MonkeyWink::

Nice to have you back, Tink!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


I'm sorry, I had no idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
Oh Man I just got up, yes I know its after one oclock.  So you all think we are waiting on the identity of the dad to bury Caylee?????

Good morning A1!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
K,  I'm going to try and catch up before Greta begins.  I'm missed talking to you all.

Nancy must be on vacation.  She's only been showing video's we've already seen a hundred times and nothing new.   Just a reminder if how sick they are and  the contradictions from Cindy.   How pathetic! gggrrrr

See yall in a few.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 08:57:39 PM
That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.

Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Article Update:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.


Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 08:58:39 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.
Thanks Always! I love Tulsa. It was great the half year I lived there. I went to Foster Middle School. I had never lived in a BIG city before that. I was in the 7th grade, but went back in my late twenties for bowling tournements at I think Sheridan Lanes. The great thing about Tulsa, I could get us around town 20 years later. Their street grids are great.
I have bowled at Sherdian Lanes many a time.  I live at 7lst and Yale.  Do you know where that is??
I know where Yale is, but I only remember small things like there was a Jr High close named Skelley (sp) a HS called Nathan Hale that was sort of close, but the HS I would've gone to had we still lived there was called East Central. That's all I remember about living there except there was a store called get this ANTHONYS. I don't know what made me think of that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 08:59:07 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 08:59:11 PM
Oh Man I just got up, yes I know its after one oclock.  So you all think we are waiting on the identity of the dad to bury Caylee?????

Good morning A1!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Morning........ ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 08:59:49 PM
Every time I see Lee I really just want to....well, I dont know......stab a pencil in his eye   ::MonkeyCool:: 

I am watching NG and it is a good refresher but gets my blood boiling all over again - this family is unbelievable   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Yea I feel the same way and I am also watching the program right now.  I ask myself, why do I do this to myself?

By the way, Leroy, you are a cute monkey.

Karen

I know what you mean.  Though it is a bit more comforting watching this with Caylee being found.

And Thank You   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 09:00:01 PM
OMG!   Between not being able to post from work and my laptop in for repair AGAIN!  I've been reading from my Blackberry, but can't post!   It feels good to be free again.    ::cartwheel::

However, I have to give all you Monkeys credit for pretty much speaking my thoughts and feelings.  Only family can do that.   One lil favor though.   Since I can't click on the links you all post from my BB.. I appreciate it, if you copy/past the article.  ;)

Watching NG right now and it's all pretty much reruns, nothing new.  But at least not Nancy ramblings.

I pray everybody had a wonderful New Year and I'm feeling pretty good about it.


I did see  that Greta will be covering it.  I wonder if she has anything new with her hottie  producer on the case!

Ok, back to the topic at hand.  ::MonkeyWink::

Nice to have you back, Tink!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks CBB.   I found some more you know what.  LOL  I'll share with you soon, to play with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:00:11 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email earlier but I could not find it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Western Observr on January 02, 2009, 09:00:19 PM
Just been watching NG too- and the next time you think LP knows any more than the rest of us, just remember, he said Casey would talk within a week of her being bailed out, then he said Casey had "made a mistake and handed her off to the wrong person"- and they would find Caylee alive within a week of her being bailed out, then he just KNEW that Caylee was in the little Econ river..... yada yada...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: always 1 on January 02, 2009, 09:00:28 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.
Thanks Always! I love Tulsa. It was great the half year I lived there. I went to Foster Middle School. I had never lived in a BIG city before that. I was in the 7th grade, but went back in my late twenties for bowling tournements at I think Sheridan Lanes. The great thing about Tulsa, I could get us around town 20 years later. Their street grids are great.
I have bowled at Sherdian Lanes many a time.  I live at 7lst and Yale.  Do you know where that is??
I know where Yale is, but I only remember small things like there was a Jr High close named Skelley (sp) a HS called Nathan Hale that was sort of close, but the HS I would've gone to had we still lived there was called East Central. That's all I remember about living there except there was a store called get this ANTHONYS. I don't know what made me think of that.
Good memory!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:00:56 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5625610&page=1

Hoover is in this video in the first minute, he has a small video camera, but you can also see him in all the news as they have the pic of him and Dominic Casey walking outside the a's house towards the black suv and NG always shows the video of Casey being released and it points out which one Hoover is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 09:02:00 PM
Just been watching NG too- and the next time you think LP knows any more than the rest of us, just remember, he said Casey would talk within a week of her being bailed out, then he said Casey had "made a mistake and handed her off to the wrong person"- and they would find Caylee alive within a week of her being bailed out, then he just KNEW that Caylee was in the little Econ river..... yada yada...

yea, but he's still sexy!   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 02, 2009, 09:02:16 PM




(man, I had a blast here on NYE!)


Yes it was crazy.  Bearly even called a new poster a BM    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 
A BM???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:03:13 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

UPDATE 5:15 PM ET -- Police just released more details. According to a report, Jett was last seen going into the bathroom at their private suite at the Old Bahama Bay Resort sometime yesterday. The body was discovered by the caretaker, Jeff Michael Kathrein (pictured bottom right with Travolta in 2006), at 10:00 AM today. The report says Jett suffered from seizures.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/02/john-travoltas-son-dies/
The kid went to take a bath? and go to bed? And the parents didn't check up on him? Tragic.

This is so so sad.  My heart goes out to John and Kelly.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 09:03:31 PM
Just been watching NG too- and the next time you think LP knows any more than the rest of us, just remember, he said Casey would talk within a week of her being bailed out, then he said Casey had "made a mistake and handed her off to the wrong person"- and they would find Caylee alive within a week of her being bailed out, then he just KNEW that Caylee was in the little Econ river..... yada yada...

Well, she would have talked had they just been able to get that manicure for her!!!  :roll: :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 02, 2009, 09:04:59 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


That is a very rare disorder. It usually presents with very severe trauma as a young child. Many of the DID diagnosis are qualified with a psychopathic disorder.  Some psychologists and psychiatrists deny it is even real, but a combination of anti social disorders.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 09:05:00 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!

I got a laptop - you got gas   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Not bad considering the price of gas.   ::MonkeyWink::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:05:07 PM
Just been watching NG too- and the next time you think LP knows any more than the rest of us, just remember, he said Casey would talk within a week of her being bailed out, then he said Casey had "made a mistake and handed her off to the wrong person"- and they would find Caylee alive within a week of her being bailed out, then he just KNEW that Caylee was in the little Econ river..... yada yada...

Well, she would have talked had they just been able to get that manicure for her!!!  :roll: :smt102

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
So the direct message came from Casey Anthony to the PI to look in the woods but he was 600 yards off and on the phone with Joy (?) trying to pinpoint the area. Where was Casey Anthony on Nov 15th when this was going on, did she have access to a cell phone at that time?
If she confessed and said she did it and to look there then this guy is in trouble.
If she confessed that Zanny's note said that they would place Caylee there alive and to go pick her up it's another issue.
If she confessed that she ran out of gas there on the night of June 16th and the PIs put it together then that is evidence that they should have turned over to LE.
right?
]

JJ I think you  missed a step....it came from casey to BJ to the PI.....remember he is the messenger
Who is BJ?
Daisy Chain= Casey to BJ to PI? And PI is hired by Ants so the info would be disclosed to them?
And LE has been watching everyone who now have to come up with some answers, the same time Ants ask for immunity?
Seems like a closed case to me, Cindy in Lock Up.

JJ....BJ is my name for Jose Baez.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:07:05 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:07:44 PM
Okies, I've asked this of y'all before, will ask nicely one more time before giving it up and going into lurk mode, as others have done for their own reasons. 

The diagnosis - Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), aka Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a very real thing, it served as a coping skill for those who, because of it, have been able to survive extreme trauma in their very young lives.  For some, having had this ability meant the difference between life and death. 

There is at least one monkey on our board who has this diagnosis.  It is NOT a laughable thing!!!!!!!!  It is NOT something to make fun of!!!!!!!!!  And to do so, altho perhaps funny to some who aren't thinking at the moment, is offensive to those who do have this very real diagnosis. 

PLEASE think about the ways in which you are having fun.   I kind of doubt that any of you would mock or in any way make fun of someone who is blind, deaf or crippled.  So please don't make fun by tossing around this very real diagnosis either.  I'm just........ disappointed. 

Thank you for listening.. Off my soapbox and to the nearest corner with a pile of nanners to shove in my big mouth. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Wow! I missed something...running back and forth trying to catch up while watching Alabama get their bums handed to them.

You are very right Wyks, this is a very serious diagnosis and very real for some.  I have a close family member who has this due to trama she experienced at a very young and impressionable age caused by a person who should have protected her.
It is not a laughing matter, it is a sad reality that some have experienced and resorted to in their minds in order to cope with unthinkable situations that many of us, thank God, have only had to blog about and not experience first hand.

I know my monkey friends, and I am sure they meant no harm with their laughing, but we can get out of hand and do not realize it at times.

::HUGS TO EVERYONE::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:09:42 PM
Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
Sweet Blurry. I used to go to all the home games of the Golden Hurricanes when I was in 7th grade. My stepdad and I went together. That was a hundred years ago by the way. I love Tulsa by the way. I would live there in a minute if I could find a job there and had no family here.
Really, I live in Tulsa, come live with me.
Thanks Always! I love Tulsa. It was great the half year I lived there. I went to Foster Middle School. I had never lived in a BIG city before that. I was in the 7th grade, but went back in my late twenties for bowling tournements at I think Sheridan Lanes. The great thing about Tulsa, I could get us around town 20 years later. Their street grids are great.
I have bowled at Sherdian Lanes many a time.  I live at 7lst and Yale.  Do you know where that is??
I know where Yale is, but I only remember small things like there was a Jr High close named Skelley (sp) a HS called Nathan Hale that was sort of close, but the HS I would've gone to had we still lived there was called East Central. That's all I remember about living there except there was a store called get this ANTHONYS. I don't know what made me think of that.
Good memory!!!
Thanks, I have a memory of useless knowledge only.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:10:32 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email earlier but I could not find it.

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 02, 2009, 09:13:52 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:15:22 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5625610&page=1

Hoover is in this video in the first minute, he has a small video camera, but you can also see him in all the news as they have the pic of him and Dominic Casey walking outside the a's house towards the black suv and NG always shows the video of Casey being released and it points out which one Hoover is.
Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
Just been watching NG too- and the next time you think LP knows any more than the rest of us, just remember, he said Casey would talk within a week of her being bailed out, then he said Casey had "made a mistake and handed her off to the wrong person"- and they would find Caylee alive within a week of her being bailed out, then he just KNEW that Caylee was in the little Econ river..... yada yada...

yea, but he's still sexy!   ::cartwheel::
Indeed. And he probably doesn't care what anyone thinks about his credibility. He's doing a job and that's what matters. He's the only one who brought this case into the public light by offering 1/2 a mil for bail in the first place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 02, 2009, 09:16:07 PM
OK...what's the deal...every time I change pages I get an add that says PRESS THE FART BUTTON!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You must be the 999,999th visitor!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
That's Impossible!!!! I am always the 999 999th visitor!!!! I thought we established that!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:16:44 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shy Monkey on January 02, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I'm so far behind but would just like to add my two cents for what it is worth.  I think that Casey killed Caylee and she had planned it for a while.  I think her motive(s) were 1) She wanted to hurt Cindy with such pain that she would never get over it; 2) She wanted to be the "victim" thereby getting sympathy and attention for as long as she could.  3) She hated Caylee for all the love and attention she got and finally (4) She wanted her freedom.  I don't know what order these would have fallen under but I do believe these were the motives.

Thanks for listening!

Speedy, all excellent points and the more I learn, the more premeditated it looks. For the order, I vote for #4 to be her priority, followed by a close #2. Casey was all about Casey, IMHO.

Thanks Brandi for responding to my post. ( I am still jumping around the forum trying to catch up.)  I would have to agree with you on the order and it makes perfect sense ... It has always been All about Casey! ::MonkeyNoNo::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:19:16 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::
Niters Sunny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:19:49 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Night Sunny!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:20:17 PM

JJ....BJ is my name for Jose Baez.... ::MonkeyWink::
I realized that after I asked. So BJ/JB is screwed if this comes together.
This makes a confession possible from Casey unless she gets fresh meat in another lawyer and spins him around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 02, 2009, 09:20:46 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 

Today ...you are right on the button.  SK's uncle is the Lohr guy who was traveling with Tim doing a documetary for Disc. Channel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dolce on January 02, 2009, 09:21:15 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!
::MonkeyHaHa::

Niters Joesamas mama!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:22:16 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!
::MonkeyHaHa::

Niters Joesamas mama!
Night Dolce, take care of those babies for me please.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:26:42 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::
Nite Sassy, go Utes, just don't tell Trimm I said that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:28:51 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:29:01 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 

Today ...you are right on the button.  SK's uncle is the Lohr guy who was traveling with Tim doing a documetary for Disc. Channel.
So are you suggesting that Tim and Leonard's tif split them up onto teams? LP left the Ant team and Tim joined it? Or are you saying that someone from inside Tim and TES was a spy? Because he didn't have a closed team?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 09:29:59 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.
No, not to my knowledge. I wish NG had called him on it though. Asked him what hotel, where, when. GIVE me the tapes. But she didn't  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 09:31:48 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?

 ::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 09:32:38 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:33:22 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?

 ::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ooooohhhhh Sorry Sparky. I didn't know that. I will make sure Boo keeps her sickly ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: monkey paws off of him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.
No, not to my knowledge. I wish NG had called him on it though. Asked him what hotel, where, when. GIVE me the tapes. But she didn't  ::MonkeyWaa::

Now that's just plain strange.  This could be a significant thing--or not, I suppose.  Leonard has connections and does know things that the public doesn't know, but, again, he does love the camera, too.  Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 09:37:40 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.

He has to throw stuff out there, otherwise he has nothing to talk about. What happens when he runs out of rumors is anyones guess. I suppose he will have to make things up   ::MonkeyShocked:: (if he has not resorted to that already)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:38:25 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to have to tell you... Leroy and I have been having a torrid affair for quite a few threads here. He even made me spam this morning. Nothing says love like Spam!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:38:28 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.
No, not to my knowledge. I wish NG had called him on it though. Asked him what hotel, where, when. GIVE me the tapes. But she didn't  ::MonkeyWaa::

Now that's just plain strange.  This could be a significant thing--or not, I suppose.  Leonard has connections and does know things that the public doesn't know, but, again, he does love the camera, too.  Interesting.
He has connections to an extent. I don't believe LE is telling all to LP. I love the guy and his toothpick to death, but I truly believe the cops aren't letting him in on everything. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:39:27 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.
No, not to my knowledge. I wish NG had called him on it though. Asked him what hotel, where, when. GIVE me the tapes. But she didn't  ::MonkeyWaa::

Now that's just plain strange.  This could be a significant thing--or not, I suppose.  Leonard has connections and does know things that the public doesn't know, but, again, he does love the camera, too.  Interesting.

He actually said that twice.   And, he said it was the night of June 15 - after the big fight.    I would love to know more about this tidbit.    I also wonder how much the female BH told LP, and if she overheard any discussions in the A family with KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 09:39:45 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:40:51 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to have to tell you... Leroy and I have been having a torrid affair for quite a few threads here. He even made me spam this morning. Nothing says love like Spam!!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?

 ::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ooooohhhhh Sorry Sparky. I didn't know that. I will make sure Boo keeps her sickly ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: monkey paws off of him.

That Boo and her "I'm not responsible for my posts" act, you watch her . . . it starts with the animated hearts, next it's flirting with Leroy!  Hmmmph!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:41:30 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to have to tell you... Leroy and I have been having a torrid affair for quite a few threads here. He even made me spam this morning. Nothing says love like Spam!!  ::MonkeyWink::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Spam, nothing says I am sick like SPAM! Boo, find another man quick. Spam? EWWWW My Grandad fought in WWII and wouldn't even make us eat Spam. He invaded Normandy and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He never told us why he hated Spam until just before he passed away.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: But to this day in his honor I will not eat it either.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:41:56 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?

 ::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ooooohhhhh Sorry Sparky. I didn't know that. I will make sure Boo keeps her sickly ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: monkey paws off of him.

Thank you, BooMonkey...for that tip....and I did find it.  Guess better pay closer attention to who is doing the posting, and then I won't have to bug for information past postings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: da sparkenator on January 02, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to have to tell you... Leroy and I have been having a torrid affair for quite a few threads here. He even made me spam this morning. Nothing says love like Spam!!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh I noticed that earlier, but I'm a terrier (see picture) so I am stuck in my own world, kinda like Casey.  It's all ME ME ME!!!  WHOOF!!!!!

Got any spam left?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email

earlier but I could not find it.

 

Nope sorry, think under 10.  You might try the forum search feature and sort by newest.  Maybe search for Grund.

Thank, will try that. 

Look under my post Gramma, I don't have it off hand b/c I can't think straight right now. But if you click on my pic then go to my posts you will find it.
Boo why can't you think straight? Too many hearts flying around your head? It looks like you are in love on your avi. Tell me... Is it Leroy?

 ::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ooooohhhhh Sorry Sparky. I didn't know that. I will make sure Boo keeps her sickly ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: monkey paws off of him.

That Boo and her "I'm not responsible for my posts" act, you watch her . . . it starts with the animated hearts, next it's flirting with Leroy!  Hmmmph!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
Oh and Karen, Boo was trying to snatch some pills from the new Marine mom earlier that fell down on the ice. You better watch Leroy and Boo! Boo is a silly monkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 09:44:50 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Night Sunny!   

Good night sunny and joesamas mama!

Yes, I got behind again!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.

Didn't he say he was given a "tip" from one of Casey's friends that Caylee was in Little Econ ?   He needs a new tipster. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
It doesn't have a big quantity of posts but I think with the upcoming events and trial it might be interesting. Further it might be a networking place since the membership fee keeps out the riffraff and I think he does background checks on everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 09:45:28 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
I went through the same mental discussion as to why or why not join.  I finally did not join because I really hate being scammed.  The reality is that anything said there that is important or significant will quickly be copied to the other Caylee forums lickety-split.  So, we'll read it, maybe a few hours later, but we'll see it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 09:46:45 PM
Thank you to those who responded to my post.  And Bud's Girl, please feel free to send an email to me thru Klaas, who will forward it and I will reply, k? 

Turbo..
No, MPD/DID is not as rare a diagnosis as you might be thinking. 

Yes, it is true that it typically presents with very severe trauma as a young child, most often that having occured under the age of 5. 

No, it is not true that "many of the DID diagnosis are qualified with a psychopathic disorder.  Not true. 

And yes, SOME psychologists and psychiatrists deny it is even real, it has been in the past a very controversial diagnosis.  However, that does not mean that the diagnosis is not real.  That simply means that SOME docs deny that it is.  Just as quite a few other diagnoses. 

Rarely if ever is MPD/DID connected as a diagnosis in and of itself along with anti-social disorders.  Are you perhaps referring to 'personality disorders' instead?   

Turbo, I'm not sure where you get your info.  My info is based on very real experience... I've worked IN the field with these folks for 10 years, (both children and adults), I've led groups face to face and online as well, and helped others thru my website.  I am a licensed clinical social worker working with individuals and families.  In this matter, I know 100% of what I speak of.  And by the way, I am myself diagnosed with MPD/SRA.  That right there qualifies me as an expert in the subject.  IMO
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::
Nite Sassy, go Utes, just don't tell Trimm I said that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


'Nite JSM. Kiss Joe for me.I'm going to be too.After seeing some of this game,my head really hurts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 

Today ...you are right on the button.  SK's uncle is the Lohr guy who was traveling with Tim doing a documetary for Disc. Channel.
So are you suggesting that Tim and Leonard's tif split them up onto teams? LP left the Ant team and Tim joined it? Or are you saying that someone from inside Tim and TES was a spy? Because he didn't have a closed team?

Tim's old team is loyal to a fault, but there were outsiders in Orlando in positions of power. To name just three there was NeJame, Copenhaver, and Dennis Martin, the cowboy, who offered his land and fed for the horses.   This is why I think the unidentified person on the couch is Copenhaver. 

I don't know how long the Orlando branch has been in the works, but logic tells me there might have been a power play as far as leadership.  There seemed to be some players making nice, nice with Tim, whether for his good or theirs is hard to say at this point, but you need to look at it IMHO.  I wonder who is in charge of the Orlando branch of TES.  On my to do list to write TES and find out. 

The situation between Tim and Leonard was out of character for Tim. I believe he was told it was a lot of money involved, when in fact it was not. The only money that Tim was upset about was the money from Rob's forum.  Someone posted the breakdown from Rob's email and it was under $2,000 and that didn't even take into account the month forum provider fees.  I was a member of the forum and had figured that out myself before it was posted. 

I do not believe that David Lohr was involved in any way, including giving any information to Sean Krause.  If you have questions, email David, he will answer any questions you have.  He does ask that you do not post his emails, so I will not.

Leonard has said nothing about the situation with Tim. Rob had his say, but Leonard was quiet.  I think this was a real rift between Tim and Leonard, I do not believe it is a good cop/bad cop thing.  And I think it is a shame, because I think they could have benefited each other -- I am not talking about financially. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.

Didn't he say he was given a "tip" from one of Casey's friends that Caylee was in Little Econ ?   He needs a new tipster. 
Again this is leverage. If he can trace this one back to Casey it just proves she is playing games with LE. Casey is also giving equal lies to everyone she doesn't trust which narrows down the true confidant. Now that confidant could be Baez... and he didn't handle the confidentiality professionally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: joesamas mama on January 02, 2009, 09:49:17 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Night Sunny!   

Good night sunny and joesamas mama!

Yes, I got behind again!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Nite Brandi, I better get to bed before I get the O/T button with Boo and Sparky. Nite all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:50:17 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
It doesn't have a big quantity of posts but I think with the upcoming events and trial it might be interesting. Further it might be a networking place since the membership fee keeps out the riffraff and I think he does background checks on everyone.

You know, I haven't seen any trolls here on SM.   This is a good site.    Just thought I'd throw that out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:51:33 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
It doesn't have a big quantity of posts but I think with the upcoming events and trial it might be interesting. Further it might be a networking place since the membership fee keeps out the riffraff and I think he does background checks on everyone.

Are they going to talk about this case?  I thought when the closed the old forum they were just going to discuss bounty hunter functions. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 09:52:16 PM
Klaas does a fantastic job along with her group of moderators.  They can smell troll a mile away.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::
Nite Sassy, go Utes, just don't tell Trimm I said that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


'Nite JSM. Kiss Joe for me.I'm going to be too.After seeing some of this game,my head really hurts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

But Bama is coming back !!!      ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 09:56:31 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.

He has to throw stuff out there, otherwise he has nothing to talk about. What happens when he runs out of rumors is anyones guess. I suppose he will have to make things up   ::MonkeyShocked:: (if he has not resorted to that already)

IMHO, he is doing just what we are doing.  He is throwing out ideas.  He has some inside knowledge and then he thinks out loud.  If you listen to him, as if he was a forum poster, you take it, roll it around, keep whats valuable and throw out the rest. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 09:56:47 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  Leroy is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to have to tell you... Leroy and I have been having a torrid affair for quite a few threads here. He even made me spam this morning. Nothing says love like Spam!!  ::MonkeyWink::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Spam, nothing says I am sick like SPAM! Boo, find another man quick. Spam? EWWWW My Grandad fought in WWII and wouldn't even make us eat Spam. He invaded Normandy and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He never told us why he hated Spam until just before he passed away.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: But to this day in his honor I will not eat it either.  ::MonkeyWink::

My Dad served in WWII also and spam was not allowed in our house either. I do not eat it to this day. Never have, never will. Gotta keep the tradition going. I do not remember the reason he hated it. He passed on so I can't ask now. Can you give me a hint?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 02, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
Hallow Monkeys...
With all due respect, and lots of it...I think NG dropped the ball with the first 24 hours, and first 30 days. I believe its the same one she passed a while ago right? Well lucky for me i had missed them before, so i got to see them today. And frankly i think us Monkeys could have done a far better, more comprehensible timeline then what was showed these past two nights. Someone needs to get in there with a GPS and go minute by minute what casey was doing on the 16. Uhhh. I was disapointed, im into this case and i wasnt able to follow what point was being made..
::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 09:57:37 PM
I have an odd question, monkeys. The day that George says he last saw Casey and Caylee, June 16th, he was starting a new job, correct? Does anyone have any idea where he was going to work or what kind of job he was starting? I remember him saying once (on a TV interview) that he was in the security field. I am trying to find out what job he was starting that day, though. It always sounds from Shirley Plesea's e-mails that he doesn't work at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 09:58:20 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 

Today ...you are right on the button.  SK's uncle is the Lohr guy who was traveling with Tim doing a documetary for Disc. Channel.
So are you suggesting that Tim and Leonard's tif split them up onto teams? LP left the Ant team and Tim joined it? Or are you saying that someone from inside Tim and TES was a spy? Because he didn't have a closed team?

Tim's old team is loyal to a fault, but there were outsiders in Orlando in positions of power. To name just three there was NeJame, Copenhaver, and Dennis Martin, the cowboy, who offered his land and fed for the horses.   This is why I think the unidentified person on the couch is Copenhaver. 

I don't know how long the Orlando branch has been in the works, but logic tells me there might have been a power play as far as leadership.  There seemed to be some players making nice, nice with Tim, whether for his good or theirs is hard to say at this point, but you need to look at it IMHO.  I wonder who is in charge of the Orlando branch of TES.  On my to do list to write TES and find out. 

The situation between Tim and Leonard was out of character for Tim. I believe he was told it was a lot of money involved, when in fact it was not. The only money that Tim was upset about was the money from Rob's forum.  Someone posted the breakdown from Rob's email and it was under $2,000 and that didn't even take into account the month forum provider fees.  I was a member of the forum and had figured that out myself before it was posted. 

I do not believe that David Lohr was involved in any way, including giving any information to Sean Krause.  If you have questions, email David, he will answer any questions you have.  He does ask that you do not post his emails, so I will not.

Leonard has said nothing about the situation with Tim. Rob had his say, but Leonard was quiet.  I think this was a real rift between Tim and Leonard, I do not believe it is a good cop/bad cop thing.  And I think it is a shame, because I think they could have benefited each other -- I am not talking about financially. 

I think the last straw for Tim was most likely when LP begged for him to send divers into the little Econ so he could "hold up Caylee's skull etc", not Tim's style, he's in it for pure, compassionate reasons not for media attention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 09:59:01 PM
Evening, Monkeys.  I've not been here much lately, but am trying to follow this case (life keeps interfering!).  I heard Leonard Padilla say a few weeks ago that Casey was spotted pacing in a hotel parking lot at 1 or 2 in the morning in the middle of June.  Was anything more discovered about this?  It's been bothering me and I figured you folks would have figured this out by now.

If something has been figured out or learned I sure haven't seen it.  Sometimes I think Leonard just throws stuff out there, even if it's a weak rumor.

Didn't he say he was given a "tip" from one of Casey's friends that Caylee was in Little Econ ?   He needs a new tipster. 
Again this is leverage. If he can trace this one back to Casey it just proves she is playing games with LE. Casey is also giving equal lies to everyone she doesn't trust which narrows down the true confidant. Now that confidant could be Baez... and he didn't handle the confidentiality professionally.

Leverage smeverage.   ::MonkeyWink::   I don't think she was running the search, that was LP's deal alone.  Casey's not smart enough to lie productively for any reason, she just makes it up on the spur of the moment.  If she was, she wouldn't be sitting where she is now, she'd be engaged to Drew Peterson.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 10:00:06 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:00:08 PM
Good Night Monkeys

Good Night Leonard
(http://i33.tinypic.com/33y0r60.jpg)
a man that likes dogs can't be all bad

Wyks I think I found your twin
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/TheBigDogsLife/SM%20Avatars/432240ab.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
Tim's old team is loyal to a fault, but there were outsiders in Orlando in positions of power. To name just three there was NeJame, Copenhaver, and Dennis Martin, the cowboy, who offered his land and fed for the horses.   This is why I think the unidentified person on the couch is Copenhaver. 

I don't know how long the Orlando branch has been in the works, but logic tells me there might have been a power play as far as leadership.  There seemed to be some players making nice, nice with Tim, whether for his good or theirs is hard to say at this point, but you need to look at it IMHO.  I wonder who is in charge of the Orlando branch of TES.  On my to do list to write TES and find out. 

The situation between Tim and Leonard was out of character for Tim. I believe he was told it was a lot of money involved, when in fact it was not. The only money that Tim was upset about was the money from Rob's forum.  Someone posted the breakdown from Rob's email and it was under $2,000 and that didn't even take into account the month forum provider fees.  I was a member of the forum and had figured that out myself before it was posted. 

I do not believe that David Lohr was involved in any way, including giving any information to Sean Krause.  If you have questions, email David, he will answer any questions you have.  He does ask that you do not post his emails, so I will not.

Leonard has said nothing about the situation with Tim. Rob had his say, but Leonard was quiet.  I think this was a real rift between Tim and Leonard, I do not believe it is a good cop/bad cop thing.  And I think it is a shame, because I think they could have benefited each other -- I am not talking about financially. 
That's quite interesting, thank you.
I noticed too that at some point Tim lost control of TES Orlando. And he tried to fix it by pulling out but there were those left behind who were still actively involved. Easy to penetrate something like that with alterior motive. And that was also the time when Cindy was suspected of Kindersearch (?) too IIRC. And Fay and the 3 other hurricanes in the season didn't help.
Tim isn't a camera guy, he's really shy. Even in Aruba he didn't do great interviews. I think he's over his head in some cases.
Coperhaven, hmmm.
When did Tim get back to Orlando this last time? Did he have any sonar November 15th that he couldn't get to because of the water?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 10:01:23 PM
Good Night All...this crud has finally gotten the best of me....I am heading for the monkey bunky .don't forget to watch Greta ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Night Sunny!   

Good night sunny and joesamas mama!

Yes, I got behind again!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Nite Brandi, I better get to bed before I get the O/T button with Boo and Sparky. Nite all.
goodnight?   your leaving just when I got here...oh poo.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 10:02:24 PM
Good Night Monkeys

Good Night Leonard
(http://i33.tinypic.com/33y0r60.jpg)
a man that likes dogs can't be all bad

Wyks I think I found your twin
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/TheBigDogsLife/SM%20Avatars/432240ab.gif)

Good night, Today. See you Tomorrow!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 02, 2009, 10:02:36 PM
You have information that James Copenhaver worked for Baez?  I have been looking everywhere to find that.  Can you share?
What would the consequences be if this is true?

Its a piece of the puzzle.

I have tried to identity the guy in the photo when all the problems started between Tim and Leonard.  I truly think someone was whispering things in Tim's ear about money being taken away from TES, and was keeping his attentions focused elsewhere besides the search (MHO of course).   As far as I can tell, there is no truth to the over $200,000 reported by Sean Krause, a smokescreen in Tim's ear, IMHO.  And I'm fuzzy on the $6,000 to Larry Garrison, my opinion is he did not volunteer his services and this was his payment.  Cindy might have thought he was volunteering but I bet he has a contract. 

Today ...you are right on the button.  SK's uncle is the Lohr guy who was traveling with Tim doing a documetary for Disc. Channel.
So are you suggesting that Tim and Leonard's tif split them up onto teams? LP left the Ant team and Tim joined it? Or are you saying that someone from inside Tim and TES was a spy? Because he didn't have a closed team?



David Lohr is Sean Krause's (Daily BS who did the article about Rob and LP scamming 200K) uncle.  Lohr  was traveling with Tim doing a Doc. and I am thinking  he told Tes that BS and caused the tif.  I don't think they split into teams as they perform different duties IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:05:20 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 10:05:29 PM
Good Night Monkeys

Good Night Leonard
(http://i33.tinypic.com/33y0r60.jpg)
a man that likes dogs can't be all bad

Wyks I think I found your twin
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/TheBigDogsLife/SM%20Avatars/432240ab.gif)

Good Night Today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:06:35 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 10:07:07 PM
Thank you to those who responded to my post.  And Bud's Girl, please feel free to send an email to me thru Klaas, who will forward it and I will reply, k? 

Turbo..
No, MPD/DID is not as rare a diagnosis as you might be thinking. 

Yes, it is true that it typically presents with very severe trauma as a young child, most often that having occured under the age of 5. 

No, it is not true that "many of the DID diagnosis are qualified with a psychopathic disorder.  Not true. 

And yes, SOME psychologists and psychiatrists deny it is even real, it has been in the past a very controversial diagnosis.  However, that does not mean that the diagnosis is not real.  That simply means that SOME docs deny that it is.  Just as quite a few other diagnoses. 

Rarely if ever is MPD/DID connected as a diagnosis in and of itself along with anti-social disorders.  Are you perhaps referring to 'personality disorders' instead?   

Turbo, I'm not sure where you get your info.  My info is based on very real experience... I've worked IN the field with these folks for 10 years, (both children and adults), I've led groups face to face and online as well, and helped others thru my website.  I am a licensed clinical social worker working with individuals and families.  In this matter, I know 100% of what I speak of.  And by the way, I am myself diagnosed with MPD/SRA.  That right there qualifies me as an expert in the subject.  IMO
 

I am very sorry, I don't know very much at all about these disorders, and yes you are an expert having been diagnosed with MPD/SRA. I know since the age of 13 I have suffered with severe depression, have been hospitalized because of it, actually spent my 18th birthday in hospital. None of this is funny, for anyone who has endured endless pain, medication, therapy, feel good for a little while, only to fall deep into a dark hole again. I'm not good with words, but I do belive I understand, no mental disorders or mental problems are funny, and frankly that is why I never wanted children, I didn't want to pass this on. Unfortunately my youngest daughter suffers from bi polar. Mary


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 10:09:43 PM
I have an odd question, monkeys. The day that George says he last saw Casey and Caylee, June 16th, he was starting a new job, correct? Does anyone have any idea where he was going to work or what kind of job he was starting? I remember him saying once (on a TV interview) that he was in the security field. I am trying to find out what job he was starting that day, though. It always sounds from Shirley Plesea's e-mails that he doesn't work at all.

I've never seen the answer to your question, but remember it exactly as you do. Not much help, but wanted you to know that you weren't being ignored! Sorry!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
I have an odd question, monkeys. The day that George says he last saw Casey and Caylee, June 16th, he was starting a new job, correct? Does anyone have any idea where he was going to work or what kind of job he was starting? I remember him saying once (on a TV interview) that he was in the security field. I am trying to find out what job he was starting that day, though. It always sounds from Shirley Plesea's e-mails that he doesn't work at all.

I've never seen the answer to your question, but remember it exactly as you do. Not much help, but wanted you to know that you weren't being ignored! Sorry!
I read that it was as a security guard, but don't recall where.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 10:12:24 PM
Good Night Monkeys

Good Night Leonard
(http://i33.tinypic.com/33y0r60.jpg)
a man that likes dogs can't be all bad

Wyks I think I found your twin
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/TheBigDogsLife/SM%20Avatars/432240ab.gif)

OMG Today, too funny!!  Am thinking it's triplets, cuz I've seen another similiar monkey to these two with different colored eyes.  Funny tho that you've found this one, hadn't seen it before!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 10:13:13 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
It doesn't have a big quantity of posts but I think with the upcoming events and trial it might be interesting. Further it might be a networking place since the membership fee keeps out the riffraff and I think he does background checks on everyone.


Thanks JJ!  I think I'll hold off to see if some real info comes out there, (not rumores) that may not be out in the media.   Already too much info. to comprehend as it isl :)  But it would be nice if you can share anything you might find interesting.  I may join a little later.   Thanks and tell them all I said hi and thanks for trying!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:13:48 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 
It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
David Lohr is Sean Krause's (Daily BS who did the article about Rob and LP scamming 200K) uncle.  Lohr  was traveling with Tim doing a Doc. and I am thinking  he told Tes that BS and caused the tif.  I don't think they split into teams as they perform different duties IMO.
  Why don't you email David and talk to him about Krause's claims?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:16:11 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.
There's no such thing as privacy and most people aren't important enough to be under surveilance.
I don't know if he does background checks, but membership forums are for a reason to keep some people away and not only to raise money to help run the forum. My website membership requires background checks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 10:16:28 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::
Nite Sassy, go Utes, just don't tell Trimm I said that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


'Nite JSM. Kiss Joe for me.I'm going to be too.After seeing some of this game,my head really hurts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

But Bama is coming back !!!      ::MonkeyWink::


 ::MonkeyDance::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:17:06 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.

WHAT?  I missed that.  I can see a small fee to keep the riff raff out, if that's even possible.  Some idiots will pay for anything to cause problems.  But a BACKGROUND CHECK?  Now that does bother me....   Maybe I'll just stick to seeing him the media and hope those who have joined will share..    Right now, there are only 59 people who've joined.   Curious what they know that we don't already know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance::

MONKEYS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 10:17:33 PM
I have an odd question, monkeys. The day that George says he last saw Casey and Caylee, June 16th, he was starting a new job, correct? Does anyone have any idea where he was going to work or what kind of job he was starting? I remember him saying once (on a TV interview) that he was in the security field. I am trying to find out what job he was starting that day, though. It always sounds from Shirley Plesea's e-mails that he doesn't work at all.

I've never seen the answer to your question, but remember it exactly as you do. Not much help, but wanted you to know that you weren't being ignored! Sorry!

All I can add is that George said he worked 3-11 PM shifts during that period and was off on Fridays and Saturdays.

He stated that he began a new job on 8-14-2008 working for Andrews International Security.

I don't know where he was employed on the 16th of June. He did state that he left for work on the 16th around 2:30 PM.

This is from the notes I took while watching his August 4 Interview.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 10:18:02 PM
I have been just hanging out for a couple of days trying to learn what is going on.  Is there nothing else worth talking about than LP!  I am sick of hearing about the disagreement between him and Tim.  I am sorry some of you ladies are hot for him...but please can we move on!!!  And go ahead and throw all the nanners you want!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:18:59 PM
Does anyone know if the Private Investigator did a press conference today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:19:27 PM
Oh, nevermind.  I see now that it is supposed to be Monday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:19:51 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 10:20:34 PM
::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance::

MONKEYS!

You're pretty rowdy for a quiet monkey!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Greta's on and "says" the Caylee case is up next...............

Warning! You know how they tease, but just saying...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:20:39 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.
There's no such thing as privacy and most people aren't important enough to be under surveilance.
I don't know if he does background checks, but membership forums are for a reason to keep some people away and not only to raise money to help run the forum. My website membership requires background checks.

I can understand the small annual fee and your right personal info. isn't exactly personal anymore, espceally on the internet.  Thank God, I feel I can trust SM.  But what info do you have to give?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:20:40 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.

It is a rumor that he does, but if you have questions about it ask him.   You do not have to give up your real name when you register.  However, sites that require a paid email (not yahoo, gmail, etc.) can sometimes get information on you.  Sometime for fun, Google your email address, you might be surprised.  No one can get information from you IP without a court order. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
PJ  if your here you have mail,   JSM, so do you...... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Leroy on January 02, 2009, 10:22:02 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?

Imagine getting rejected to a site because you couldn't pass the background check.....pfft, I dont *think* I have anything to hide but I certainly wouldn't want to find out THAT way  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:22:04 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?

Shell, me either although I don't know whether that is true or not, I personally wouldn't join ANY site that trashed Tim, but that's just me, look at this post from before they closed the open forum and the comments left:


It comes with great sadness that I will be closing the forum and refunding all money received. This comes from being exposed to groups like Kidfinders and Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch. I am shocked and amazed by the actions of these groups. To even compare KFN and TES is reprehensible IMO
I am not one to bad mouth someone or give speculation as to one’s motives; however, I will not stand by and have Leonard or myself attacked by people that have no business throwing rocks when they themselves live in glass houses. I will tell it like it is because I was there and I am an eyewitness to the events.

For the last few months Leonard has been on Nancy Grace promoting TES and asking people to donate to his cause as well as offer whatever assistance to the search effort of TES. The publicity of this case through the efforts of Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla by keeping it in the headlines has generated the participation and funds for TES that Tim himself told us making this the largest search in the history of TES.

Leonard Padilla has covered all expenses of our group out of his own pocket for both trips from California to Florida including the funding for the original bail bond of $500,000.

I am repulsed by the actions of Tim Miller and the fact that he is biting the hand that feeds him; I am not sure how he thought he had received so many donations and response to his search. He is upset because people stopped Leonard or I to take some photos, I am not sure as to what he wanted; us to shun people away or act stuck up, maybe it gave the volunteers something to do as they stood around waiting to start searching while Tim set up his command center and trying to get organized during the morning after the search was already to begin, not sure what he was doing for the four days he was here before the search was to start but I said I wouldn’t get into that.

It has been reported on The Daily BS (I couldn’t have named that site any better…lol) “membership at his forum site, profiting $298,500 as of Monday” now I am not sure what kind of calculator these guys are using but, anyone can go to the forum not even being a member, click on the Statistics tab and see that there are 169 members. Now multiply 169 x $9.95 – the $ 0.59 (that Paypal charges) = $1,581.84 as well as an additional $270.00 in donations.

I have the money for Tim Millers group however where is he, Tim stated on National TV that he was coming into town to conduct the largest search in the nation to find Caylee and that he would not leave town until he found her. Now I am not going to go into the fact that he was here for three days of searching and leaves town when he receives $30,000 to go up and search in North Carolina for another family. Is Tim chasing after lost individuals or is he chasing the money but I will stop here as I said I would not sink to his level. I also realize that helping other families is important but he should not have a problem with us continuing to search.

I will not run from these lies and false statements however, maybe people are right; it is not our job to raise money for this organizations and I will not contribute another ounce of energy to bring money to Tim Miller. I am refunding every dollar to the people that have donated for this effort. I will not be associated with handing Tim one cent that I helped raise for his efforts, if anyone wants to donate to TES please donate direct to them, for I will not be involved. I apologize for not furthering the forum but will concentrate on doing what is our job: reading through the lies and solving the mystery. We are thinkers and our job is to get to the bottom of the lies involved in this crime and the focus should have always been for…. BRINGING CAYLEE HOME.


The same goes for Kidfinders. I know for a fact that this organization as attempted to stop both searches of the water at J. Blanchard Park. Why is this? Why would anyone not want the search for Caylee to continue until she is found? Are we onto something? The only thing that comes to mind is that if Caylee is found, Kidfinders does not receive any more donations. So, who is really exploiting the family?

Thanks for all the kind words on the forum and all the smart thinkers out there. We will be left to continue the search.


 
 On December 23, 2008 at 7:13 am Ronda Said:
Rob, for you to act like you and Leonard are victims is pathetic. We all know why you gave that money back and it had nothing to do with Tim Miller. You gave it back because you and Lenny were busted and for you to attack a man that has dedicated his life searching for missing people shows just how pathetic you are.
Tim was called in to help search for Caylee, while you, Leonard and the rest of Lenny’s traveling circus, involved yourselves into a case that thanks to Clown Lenny has gone on longer than it should. If he had kept his hat and toothpick in CA, this case might have been closed a long time ago.

With regards to you comment about Tim leaving when he got $30,000 to go to North Carolina for another family, proves that Tim is the one that is trusted and called upon when a family has lost a loved one. Did the family from North Carolina contact you and Lenny? You see Rob, Caylee wasn’t the only missing child/person and unlike you and Lenny, Tim goes where he is called upon.

Who was asked to take a Lie Detector Test Rob? Who was wanting to contact Don King to have his Lie Detector done on PPV? If it was all about finding Caylee for you and Lenny, answer me this, when Lenny first got here, he stated that he was going to give the “kidnappers” one week to return Caylee before he started searching for her? If it was all about finding Caylee, wouldn’t you think Lenny would want to begin his search as soon as possible? Why would he wait a week?

In the interviews with Lenny and Tim, who was the one of the two that mentioned that $250,000 reward over and over again? I really don’t think that Tim needed Lenny begging for donations on his behalf. I mean lets check the records to see how much Tim and his group has raised for their searches. I don’t think Lenny was around begging for donations for any of those searches, how the hell did Tim manage before Lenny came along to raise money for Tim’s company?

Here’s an idea for Lenny to raise money, Lenny can call Don King and schedule a PPV event and at this PPV Lenny can bring in his accounting for the money he raised for the search and how it was distributed and Tim can bring in his books and we’ll compare the two, to see who was really the one dedicated to finding Caylee. Sound good to you?

Your comment about Tim being upset because it was you and Lenny that everyone wanted pictures of and Tim was jealous, well lets look at this shall we? How many times did you and Lenny appear on tv/radio or any other media outlet compared to Tim.

With regards to Nancy Grace and the way she kept putting that idiot on her show and referring to him as if he was some kind of Anthony Family expert, it is going to cost her.quite a few loyal fans. As a former loyal fan/viewer of her show, I will no longer be tuning in and neither will alot of her other viewers.

She has lost the trust of her viewers, by her putting this idiot on her show for ratings or whatever reason she has, she makes it clear that it is all about the ratings and without viewers you have not rating, so I maybe Lenny can get her a spot on his show.

You should be ashamed of yourself and you need to quit telling lies.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
7.  In a nutshell:  LP IS SEXY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::
Yes!!!
And I just paid to get onto his forum today.
http://www.wantedfugitives.com/forum/index.php
Can you give me that link please? I lost it.


I've been debating on joining.  I heard at one point nobody was even posting anything new.   I'm curious, but want to know I am getting my money's worth.  Has any Monkeys learned anything new from there? Wasn't a portion of that going to TES, or did that.  change?  Please help a Monkey out in make this decision.   TIA
It doesn't have a big quantity of posts but I think with the upcoming events and trial it might be interesting. Further it might be a networking place since the membership fee keeps out the riffraff and I think he does background checks on everyone.


Thanks JJ!  I think I'll hold off to see if some real info comes out there, (not rumores) that may not be out in the media.   Already too much info. to comprehend as it isl :)  But it would be nice if you can share anything you might find interesting.  I may join a little later.   Thanks and tell them all I said hi and thanks for trying!

I belong to the new forum, and NO there are no background checks.  He refunded all of the monies due to the negative comments about making money.  The registration, and the minimal fee ( which you are to receive a DVD for it) is to keep the trolls from posting on it.  There are a lot of good discussions on there, and good info given.  Not very much personal discussions going on there.  Pretty well kept on the discussion of the Anthony Clan and the others involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:22:21 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 02, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.

TES is non-profit.  His expensive toys are necessary for what he does.  A big pile of monkey doo to you for saying that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:22:59 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.

Those are NOT toys, but NECESSARY equipment to get any kind of job done, to HELP many people in need.  Water, land, etc....  It's certainly not for fun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Today on January 02, 2009, 10:23:14 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 
It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 02, 2009, 10:23:42 PM
Boo I hope your dad is feeling better. I hope all of you who are not feeling so hot right now recover from the crud..I have been following on and off today..I have been sick with walking pneumonia and all of you have kept me laughing in between the coughing!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Dihannah, I was wondering where u went to  ::MonkeyWink::
JSM, ditto on the sheriff arresting Spindy very soon and when we are around. G'nite everyone  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:23:51 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

I guess my comment was too brief in the spirit of reducing quote stacks. I know you were not talking about SM. I meant, are they serious about LP's site doing a background check? and if so, I would not join it out of basic privacy issues.

WHAT?  I missed that.  I can see a small fee to keep the riff raff out, if that's even possible.  Some idiots will pay for anything to cause problems.  But a BACKGROUND CHECK?  Now that does bother me....   Maybe I'll just stick to seeing him the media and hope those who have joined will share..    Right now, there are only 59 people who've joined.   Curious what they know that we don't already know?
I don't know about the background check. I was speculating.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Nite Monkeys, my brain is not working right tonight. I have a neck ache and must go to the rink in the morning.

Might I add that I believe my Sheriff Bear has only a few more days left in office as High Sheriff.

If he would gladly do JSM this one favor. Please arrest Cindy tomorrow preferably mid day, not after I go to bed in a minute. Also please have all news media surrounding you when you make the kill. I really want to see Cindy come out the door with her hammer and my you my friend Beary grab it out of her hand and throw it at Lee's forehead. That might take care of his unibrow in one fell swoop.
.

Night Monkeys, I may check in soon. Roll Tide, Go Utes, Go Monkeys and above all GOD BLESS CAYLEE. She is what matters!

Night Joe.     Thanks for the laughs today - you were a funny monkey!     ::MonkeyTongue::
Nite Sassy, go Utes, just don't tell Trimm I said that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


'Nite JSM. Kiss Joe for me.I'm going to be too.After seeing some of this game,my head really hurts.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

But Bama is coming back !!!      ::MonkeyWink::


 ::MonkeyDance::




YES THEY ARE!!! ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 10:25:05 PM
No Rose,  I still cant send you mail, but I havr some for u!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:26:03 PM
::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance:: (http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/words/hi3.gif)  ::MonkeyDance::

MONKEYS!

You're pretty rowdy for a quiet monkey!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Greta's on and "says" the Caylee case is up next...............

Warning! You know how they tease, but just saying...........

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: You just can't be too quiet around here, or you'll get lost in the cage. Speaking of that, this cage is almost full! Fill me in on what Greta says cause I don't have the tv on now. Thanks CBB!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mammy on January 02, 2009, 10:26:48 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:26:54 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 10:27:40 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?

Imagine getting rejected to a site because you couldn't pass the background check.....pfft, I dont *think* I have anything to hide but I certainly wouldn't want to find out THAT way  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



LOL Leroy. I think the internet privacy issue is another thread entirely. I think I will just depend on the kindness of others who paid to read at LP's site to come and report to us, and play it safe. I do not handle rejection all that well.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Brandi on January 02, 2009, 10:28:38 PM
Boo I hope your dad is feeling better. I hope all of you who are not feeling so hot right now recover from the crud..I have been following on and off today..I have been sick with walking pneumonia and all of you have kept me laughing in between the coughing!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Dihannah, I was wondering where u went to  ::MonkeyWink::
JSM, ditto on the sheriff arresting Spindy very soon and when we are around. G'nite everyone  ::MonkeyWink::

hey there, flamom!

So sorry you have had the walking crud! Hope you feel better soon!

If you'd like to take down the Christmas lights from the palm trees, check out the URL in my signature line under this post. There are a few new presents for you there. ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:28:48 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:30:45 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:31:27 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
Tim lives very simply.  Everything goes to TES to enable them to recover missing people.  Tim does not have "expensive toys."  TES has state of the art equipment to enable them to be the best at what they do. 

WARNING:  Tim is a saintly man who does what he does out of the goodness of his heart.  Do not even suggest otherwise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 02, 2009, 10:31:34 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
JJ:  You are wrong.  Forum mods at Scared Monkeys DO NOT have posters IP's.  Only Admin.

Edited to add "at Scared Monkeys"

(http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: flamom on January 02, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
Boo I hope your dad is feeling better. I hope all of you who are not feeling so hot right now recover from the crud..I have been following on and off today..I have been sick with walking pneumonia and all of you have kept me laughing in between the coughing!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Dihannah, I was wondering where u went to  ::MonkeyWink::
JSM, ditto on the sheriff arresting Spindy very soon and when we are around. G'nite everyone  ::MonkeyWink::

hey there, flamom!

So sorry you have had the walking crud! Hope you feel better soon!

If you'd like to take down the Christmas lights from the palm trees, check out the URL in my signature line under this post. There are a few new presents for you there. ;-)

Brandi.. I saw them and love em!! I left you a note & will change them soon..Thanks for all you do! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:33:45 PM
Clint House's interview is interesting in retrospect.  He says nothing significant, but the fact that he gives an interview is interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: mammy on January 02, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
Tim lives very simply.  Everything goes to TES to enable them to recover missing people.  Tim does not have "expensive toys."  TES has state of the art equipment to enable them to be the best at what they do. 

WARNING:  Tim is a saintly man who does what he does out of the goodness of his heart.  Do not even suggest otherwise.

Sorry you think saying Tim gets a pay check is something bad about Tim.  It's just a fact.

Tim does great work, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Well GRETA is only a rerun of her interview in there house so far. Nothing new!  Nancy stole this case from her  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:36:01 PM
JJ:  You are wrong.  Forum mods at Scared Monkeys DO NOT have posters IP's.  Only Admin.

Edited to add "at Scared Monkeys"

(http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/3.gif)

Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:36:04 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

CBB thank you for my Valentine's Day outfit!! I appreciate what  you do for me!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 02, 2009, 10:37:17 PM
Maybe it's good I haven't posted in awhile.  EVERYTIME I get on here, it ens up a bashing Tim argument, which angers me as much as the Anthony's.  So back off to lurking, before I get banned.

Goodnight all!  Sweet Dreams!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 10:37:45 PM
JJ:  You are wrong.  Forum mods at Scared Monkeys DO NOT have posters IP's.  Only Admin.

Edited to add "at Scared Monkeys"

(http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/3.gif)

Thanks for the info.

You are welcome, JJ.  I'm sorry if you've had problems at other places. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:37:58 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.

We could also try this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley/emotions/18.gif) 
::MonkeyHaHa:: Sorry! I tend to be a little "paranoid" when it comes to the internet myself! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:37:58 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
Tim lives very simply.  Everything goes to TES to enable them to recover missing people.  Tim does not have "expensive toys."  TES has state of the art equipment to enable them to be the best at what they do. 

WARNING:  Tim is a saintly man who does what he does out of the goodness of his heart.  Do not even suggest otherwise.
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

CBB thank you for my Valentine's Day outfit!! I appreciate what  you do for me!!!  ::MonkeyWink::



Boo,You look nice.
CBB does great work.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 10:39:51 PM
I am very sorry, I don't know very much at all about these disorders, and yes you are an expert having been diagnosed with MPD/SRA. I know since the age of 13 I have suffered with severe depression, have been hospitalized because of it, actually spent my 18th birthday in hospital. None of this is funny, for anyone who has endured endless pain, medication, therapy, feel good for a little while, only to fall deep into a dark hole again. I'm not good with words, but I do belive I understand, no mental disorders or mental problems are funny, and frankly that is why I never wanted children, I didn't want to pass this on. Unfortunately my youngest daughter suffers from bi polar. Mary

Thank you for understanding no rose cg, and other monkeys in here as well.  Am sorry I couldn't reply to each and every post, but I did read them all.  For those who want to discuss this further, please feel free to email me at Wyksss@gmail.com I don't mind putting that email out there. 

My heart goes out to you and other monkeys in here who either have had personal traumatic experiences and deal with the ensuing mental health problems or their loved ones have or are.  It is hard living life with this, and/or having loved ones going thru these things.  I honestly believe that the hardships we face each and every day is what can and does make each of us stronger.  Most often we are stronger than we may feel.  And in those times, it's helpful to be surrounded by those who believe in us until we can believe in ourselves, either again, or for the very first time.  This may be a forum for missing persons, in particular for Caylee.  And yet, by it's very nature it's at the same time, a type of support group for each other. 

I do understand what you are saying Mary, about not wanting to 'pass this on' to your children.  I also felt that way.  Some things about ourselves we may end up passing on, either thru genetics or by example.  One of the hardest things for me was that I was learning, for the first time, how to live a healthy life, even while trying to teach my sons how to live one.  So unfortunately, we were basically all learning together.  I'm just as determined that the next generation, my grandchildren, won't be affected.  There is always another chance to teach what we've each learned. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BluesyGram on January 02, 2009, 10:40:16 PM
I have been just hanging out for a couple of days trying to learn what is going on.  Is there nothing else worth talking about than LP!  I am sick of hearing about the disagreement between him and Tim.  I am sorry some of you ladies are hot for him...but please can we move on!!!  And go ahead and throw all the nanners you want!


LOL...I feel the same way about the 'BabyDaddy' sometimes.   But since I am always trying to catch up...I am grateful because I get to skip a few.

Hang in there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: katiekatie2u on January 02, 2009, 10:40:25 PM
BLURRYMONKEY
I HAVE BEEN  THINKING ABOUT THE TRENTON DUCKETT CASE SINCE HE DISAPPEARED AND HIS MOM KILLED HERSELF.. WHERE HE ENDED AT  WHAT SITE...ETC ..WHEN THEY FOUND CAYLEE I THOUGHT OF HIM... HE COMES INTO MY MIND OFTEN... GOD BLESS HIM WHEREEVER HIS REMAINS ARE HIS  SPIRIT IS WITH GOD..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
::MonkeyHaHa:: Sorry! I tend to be a little "paranoid" when it comes to the internet myself! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/1.gif)
Most people aren't interesting enough to be under government surveliance. But there are those that put personal information on the internet that's revealing. I'm not scared of the internet, it's a great place. I've met people from internet relationships and have great friendships that would have been impossible otherwise.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2009, 10:41:06 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.

We could also try this (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/angry/3.gif)(http://www.33smiley.com/smiley/emotions/18.gif) 
::MonkeyHaHa:: Sorry! I tend to be a little "paranoid" when it comes to the internet myself! (http://www.33smiley.com/smiley2/emotions/shocked/1.gif)


 ::MonkeyDance::    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 10:41:11 PM
When you do what Tim does day in and day out  and the stress you are under with every search, hoping you dont find someones child dead, but knowing that if they are you need to find them and bring them home, you can bet that whatever he makes its not enough, and I for one would rather he make the money it takes for him to pay his bills doing this, because I know that if my child was to ever come up missing I would want Tim there as soon as possible and if he was at a regular job making money to keep up with life, he couldnt come at the drop of a hat. Im sure that the families he has already helped to find their child is glad that this is the way he makes his money... I know I would, Id pay him myself to find my child!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

Good point.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:41:36 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.

TES is non-profit.  His expensive toys are necessary for what he does.  A big pile of monkey doo to you for saying that.

Thank you~ Tim is NOT in this for the money, he does this to honor his daughter and make sure her death will never be in vain by searching for other so that they do not endure the sheer hell he went thre those horrid 17 months that she was lost............ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 02, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
GramaMonkey the man in the picture is not Rev. Grund.  He sent an email to another monkey and said it was not him.  A copy of the email is back a couple of pages.

OK....do you know about how far back it is, I thought there was an email earlier but I could not find it.




around page 74-78 on this thread.  That is where I started today and I am still trying to catch up to ya all. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
Caylee Anthony – BNN On The Radio Sunday Jan/4
Posted on January 2nd, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture

Blogger News will be back on the airwaves on Sunday Jan/4. What happened this week? For many, the answer would be ‘not much’. Yet if you peek under the hood, all sorts of unsavory aspects are floating to the surface.

Casey Anthony sits in jail awaiting trial on first degree murder, the discovery and identification of a bag of bones has deflated the senior Anthony clan (George and Anthony) from their quest for persuading the general public that we should be seeking a live Caylee.

Having spent many years following high profile cases, I have to admit that I am completely stumped by the antics of the defense team. It is not a Dream Team but rather a Nightmare Team! No attorney in their right mind would allow, or in this case encourage, a paid ‘expert witness’ to appear on the Nancy Grace show day after day.

Of course you can also view this entire case as a charade. Casey Anthony is in a win/win situation. If Bozo the Clown Jose Baez manages to get this killer off, Casey will be happy. If Bozo gets her a life sentence, the appeal will be based on incompetence of council. What a wonderful situation!

A common theory in business is that if you are incompetent, surround yourself by people that are even more incompetent!

Our show will be airing at 3pm CST on Sunday Jan/4. We do hope that not only will you be listening, you will also call in and tell us your thoughts.

On a completely note, we are working hard at putting on a show at 2pm Sunday.  I am sure that many of you have seen the TV show Cold Cases. We have a cold case, that has come alive almost 30 years later. A double murder may well have been solved. The police have re-opened the files, and just maybe there is some justice coming down. Stay tuned, this is going to be a hot one. Our guest is someone intimately involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:43:39 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?
What are you implying?  What type of info could have been leaked to Baez?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 02, 2009, 10:44:29 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
Who does this??? What site are you talking about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 10:44:55 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.

THAT IS ENOUGH!  I will not sit back and listen to anymore of your insults to Tim Miller.  If you are so in love with LP why don't you slease on back over to his site and stay there.  You would make a perfect couple.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 10:45:05 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.

Just getting caught up again (hubby playing poker) but had to post.  This is copied from the TES website:  Just FYI

We are a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization, which is funded solely by donations from team members and the surrounding communities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 10:45:11 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 
It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

Why would I want anyone especially a Bounty Hunter running a background check on me? (although they would be bored to death). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 10:46:25 PM
When you do what Tim does day in and day out  and the stress you are under with every search, hoping you dont find someones child dead, but knowing that if they are you need to find them and bring them home, you can bet that whatever he makes its not enough, and I for one would rather he make the money it takes for him to pay his bills doing this, because I know that if my child was to ever come up missing I would want Tim there as soon as possible and if he was at a regular job making money to keep up with life, he couldnt come at the drop of a hat. Im sure that the families he has already helped to find their child is glad that this is the way he makes his money... I know I would, Id pay him myself to find my child!

Ain't that the truth.   Tim is a good man.   And, I'd be calling him if one of my girls went missing, also!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:47:33 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?
What are you implying?  What type of info could have been leaked to Baez?
Sonar? Infrared maps? Points to search when water receded? Just eliminating possibilities. 
Someone mentioned the guy who kept the horses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:47:43 PM
Bounty Hunters create networks of people in order to do their jobs.  They create long reaching networks with people from all walks of life.  Information is key to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2009, 10:48:09 PM
No Rose,  I still cant send you mail, but I havr some for u!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::
I asked Klass for your email addy, but I don't think she saw my request. Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 10:48:43 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

CBB thank you for my Valentine's Day outfit!! I appreciate what  you do for me!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Love your outfit Boo!  It's so.... you!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:49:21 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 
It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

Why would I want anyone especially a Bounty Hunter running a background check on me? (although they would be bored to death). 
He's not looking for people like you. He's looking for people who are trying to kill him. Jez, I should have never mentioned this....

Yes, he would be bored with more than 99% of the population.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 10:49:40 PM
PLEASE READ

We have a long standing relationship with Texas Equusearch.  Though nobody is perfect, Tim Miller has been a hero to many familys of the missing.

We DO NOT speak unkindly of TES at SM.  if you don't like that feel free to leave.  I have my own opinions of Leonard Padilla and I try to keep them to myself. 

Note Orlando LE thanked TES and not Leonard Padilla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 10:50:42 PM
I would also like to say in response to this discussion that Tim has personally found many missing people that were deceased at the time.  It is not something one could ever be paid enough to do.  I cannot imagine what it must be like to tell a grieving family that news.  He does NOT do this for the money.

Tim is not super man as some have said.  He is just a very good man, doing what he feels is God's calling for his life. 

Enough people have been vilified through this case.  Please, let's stop this now. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:51:05 PM
Bounty Hunters create networks of people in order to do their jobs.  They create long reaching networks with people from all walks of life.  Information is key to them.
Exactly.
Even marketing research firms know what brand of toilet paper you bought last time you went grocery shopping. Welcome to the information age.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?
What are you implying?  What type of info could have been leaked to Baez?
Sonar? Infrared maps? Points to search when water receded? Just eliminating possibilities. 
Someone mentioned the guy who kept the horses.
Why would Baez want to search?  What benefit would it be to him to find the body?  I will not suggest he would like to find the body just to hide it again because I do believe even an inexperienced attorney like Baez knows where the line is drawn and not to step over it.  Besides, if he needed to find the body, he could have gotten this information from Casey months ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 10:52:38 PM
Thank you Klass, I am been waiting for you to take care of this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:53:16 PM
We must be getting near page 100, the cage is starting to stink.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?
What are you implying?  What type of info could have been leaked to Baez?
Sonar? Infrared maps? Points to search when water receded? Just eliminating possibilities. 
Someone mentioned the guy who kept the horses.
Why would Baez want to search?  What benefit would it be to him to find the body?  I will not suggest he would like to find the body just to hide it again because I do believe even an inexperienced attorney like Baez knows where the line is drawn and not to step over it.  Besides, if he needed to find the body, he could have gotten this information from Casey months ago.
The area was underwater. Baez tried to get into the site when LE was there. He wants to build a defense. He wanted to observe the autopsy too. But he had to have someone find the body for him first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 10:53:42 PM
PLEASE READ

We have a long standing relationship with Texas Equusearch.  Though nobody is perfect, Tim Miller has been a hero to many familys of the missing.

We DO NOT speak unkindly of TES at SM.  if you don't like that feel free to leave.  I have my own opinions of Leonard Padilla and I try to keep them to myself. 

Note Orlando LE thanked TES and not Leonard Padilla.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:55:13 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: I'm curious how you've drawn your conclusions about his travels as you didn't even know tha basic fact that TES is non profit and they do travel to search for missing loved ones, IIRC it's around 900 searches......I'd never wish that job on anyone, but God bless the man that stepped up to the plate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 10:55:49 PM
Thanks Klaas for reposting that.  Please continue to BUMP that message until this cage is closed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:56:02 PM
PLEASE READ

We have a long standing relationship with Texas Equusearch.  Though nobody is perfect, Tim Miller has been a hero to many familys of the missing.

We DO NOT speak unkindly of TES at SM.  if you don't like that feel free to leave.  I have my own opinions of Leonard Padilla and I try to keep them to myself. 

Note Orlando LE thanked TES and not Leonard Padilla.

Thanks for the info.
No doubt Tim Miller is a fine man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 10:56:24 PM
PLEASE READ

We have a long standing relationship with Texas Equusearch.  Though nobody is perfect, Tim Miller has been a hero to many familys of the missing.

We DO NOT speak unkindly of TES at SM.  if you don't like that feel free to leave.  I have my own opinions of Leonard Padilla and I try to keep them to myself. 

Note Orlando LE thanked TES and not Leonard Padilla.

Also LE took Tim into the woods where Caylee's body was found and he gave his EXPERT opinion as to how long it had been there!!!!!!     LP was out by the road talking to the camera people, I didnt see him be invited to the crime spot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 10:56:34 PM
JJ - Stop dissing TES at SM....end of subject.  If you don't like the rule you are free to post elsewhere where they worship Leonard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 10:56:58 PM
We must be getting near page 100, the cage is starting to stink.

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Agree.   Let's change the subject. 

I feel a document dump coming this week.   Anyone else feel it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:57:06 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

CBB thank you for my Valentine's Day outfit!! I appreciate what  you do for me!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyDance:: BOO you are beautiful for Valentines. CBB sparkled me up for Valentines, I will put my Valentines decorations up next week! I'm gonna celebrate the New Year atleast through the weekend!
Yes, you are adorable BOO!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: BooMonkey on January 02, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
SOOOOooo everyone, what about that Duct tape?

I wonder why LE needed to clean out both Caylee and Casey's closets?

I wonder that that LARGE thing that took a couple of men to carry out of the woods was? Remember it was all covered in white and it was noted that they were carrying a large item??

I wonder if Cindy replaced her vacuums yet? I hear the Dyson Animal is a good one!!

Let's not fight, it makes me feel even worse than I do!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: AZLady on January 02, 2009, 10:58:07 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?
What are you implying?  What type of info could have been leaked to Baez?
Sonar? Infrared maps? Points to search when water receded? Just eliminating possibilities. 
Someone mentioned the guy who kept the horses.
Why would Baez want to search?  What benefit would it be to him to find the body?  I will not suggest he would like to find the body just to hide it again because I do believe even an inexperienced attorney like Baez knows where the line is drawn and not to step over it.  Besides, if he needed to find the body, he could have gotten this information from Casey months ago.
The area was underwater. Baez tried to get into the site when LE was there. He wants to build a defense. He wanted to observe the autopsy too. But he had to have someone find the body for him first.
I guess I just don't understand what you are getting at.  Baez tried to access the site while LE was processing it.  Of course, that was not allowed, but he was given access to the site when they finished.  He didn't want to see it then.  Baez wanted his experts to observe the autopsy and this is not allowed, either.  He can perform a second autopsy if he wishes.  What do you mean "But he had to have someone find the body for him first"?
Baez's actions are all intended to allow him to challenge the forensics at trial.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
The proof is in the pudding. 

Who continues to search for the missing while the cameras are off?

Who is on TV spouting useless and ever changing theories, yet never really got his own hands dirty?

Hmmmm.

Makes ya think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
SOOOOooo everyone, what about that Duct tape?

I wonder why LE needed to clean out both Caylee and Casey's closets?

I wonder that that LARGE thing that took a couple of men to carry out of the woods was? Remember it was all covered in white and it was noted that they were carrying a large item??

I wonder if Cindy replaced her vacuums yet? I hear the Dyson Animal is a good one!!

Let's not fight, it makes me feel even worse than I do!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Can we have the recipe for Bootiful Tea?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 10:58:39 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.

THAT IS ENOUGH!  I will not sit back and listen to anymore of your insults to Tim Miller.  If you are so in love with LP why don't you slease on back over to his site and stay there.  You would make a perfect couple.
Facts aren't insults. Only stating that Mr. Miller is a businessman, nothing more or less.
I'm not in love with LP either. Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 10:59:03 PM
The proof is in the pudding. 

Who continues to search for the missing while the cameras are off?

Who is on TV spouting useless and ever changing theories, yet never really got his own hands dirty?

Hmmmm.

Makes ya think.

Just an FYI

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 10:59:20 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.

JJ Maybe you need to get more information before you decide to start posting what is and isn't here at Scared Monkeys.  I corrected your ASSumption about the IPS in that only Admin have posters IP's and not the mods.  So don't start that stuff here.  Just ask next time.

Also am I reading right, that LP site you joined has background checks?  But then when questioned you posted:

"I don't know about background checks.  I was speculating."  If you don't know, why say?  You spent almost a full page going on about background checks and why they are needed and then you aren't sure, you are speculating.

And then you bash Tim Miller?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Why are you here?

I think you are just trying to cause trouble.  JMHO




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
SOOOOooo everyone, what about that Duct tape?

I wonder why LE needed to clean out both Caylee and Casey's closets?

I wonder that that LARGE thing that took a couple of men to carry out of the woods was? Remember it was all covered in white and it was noted that they were carrying a large item??

I wonder if Cindy replaced her vacuums yet? I hear the Dyson Animal is a good one!!

Let's not fight, it makes me feel even worse than I do!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed the large item, Boo.   What was that all about?   How did I miss that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 10:59:59 PM
SOOOOooo everyone, what about that Duct tape?

I wonder why LE needed to clean out both Caylee and Casey's closets?

I wonder that that LARGE thing that took a couple of men to carry out of the woods was? Remember it was all covered in white and it was noted that they were carrying a large item??

I wonder if Cindy replaced her vacuums yet? I hear the Dyson Animal is a good one!!

Let's not fight, it makes me feel even worse than I do!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I personally LOVe my dyson.  It is great.

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: higherhopes on January 02, 2009, 11:00:26 PM
SOOOOooo everyone, what about that Duct tape?

I wonder why LE needed to clean out both Caylee and Casey's closets?

I wonder that that LARGE thing that took a couple of men to carry out of the woods was? Remember it was all covered in white and it was noted that they were carrying a large item??

I wonder if Cindy replaced her vacuums yet? I hear the Dyson Animal is a good one!!

Let's not fight, it makes me feel even worse than I do!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Boo,  I could give you and answer to a few of these questions, bbbuuutttt.....I will get throttled in this cage right now!    Im skerred.... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:00:30 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.

THAT IS ENOUGH!  I will not sit back and listen to anymore of your insults to Tim Miller.  If you are so in love with LP why don't you slease on back over to his site and stay there.  You would make a perfect couple.
Facts aren't insults. Only stating that Mr. Miller is a businessman, nothing more or less.
I'm not in love with LP either. Sorry.

To many of us and to those that have lost loved ones that Mr. Tim Miller has found he is so much more.  Much more.    Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: JuJu on January 02, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
JJ - Stop dissing TES at SM....end of subject.  If you don't like the rule you are free to post elsewhere where they worship Leonard.


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::cartwheel::

Love you Klaas!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 11:00:53 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.

I am not paranoid. I just play it as safe as possible and do not do things or go to places that might create problems. Do not label the prudent as paranoid---ok?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 11:00:59 PM
The proof is in the pudding. 

Who continues to search for the missing while the cameras are off?

Who is on TV spouting useless and ever changing theories, yet never really got his own hands dirty?

Hmmmm.

Makes ya think.

Just an FYI

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting...


Yeah.....  Don't think I want a bite of any of this.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:01:39 PM
Quiet Monkey, so far Greta has been a rerun of her interview with Tony's roommate........Clint.

She's rerunning the backyard at the Ant's house now with Cindy.

Clint reminded me of Casey's "phone conversations" with Cindy. Casey would say things like, "Oh, yeah, Mom, you're taking Caylee to the beach today, etc"

Cindy's on the record of saying she had not seen Caylee since the 15th, so Casey's going to have to explain why she faked those calls.

CBB thank you for my Valentine's Day outfit!! I appreciate what  you do for me!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyDance:: BOO you are beautiful for Valentines. CBB sparkled me up for Valentines, I will put my Valentines decorations up next week! I'm gonna celebrate the New Year atleast through the weekend!
Yes, you are adorable BOO!!  ::MonkeyRoll::

Just quoting myself because when I reread my post (what I just bolded above) I read it as Adoraboo!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: So I will call you ADORABOO!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:01:45 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 11:02:57 PM

Islandmonkey, thanks for your posting. Add that to my reasons for not giving LP my money nor my time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: islandmonkey on January 02, 2009, 11:03:42 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.
And he travels quite a bit.

THAT IS ENOUGH!  I will not sit back and listen to anymore of your insults to Tim Miller.  If you are so in love with LP why don't you slease on back over to his site and stay there.  You would make a perfect couple.
Facts aren't insults. Only stating that Mr. Miller is a businessman, nothing more or less.
I'm not in love with LP either. Sorry.

 ::MonkeyEek:: WTF??????????? Now that is a d@mn insult, he reaches in his own pockets and goes into debt to find OTHER peoples children-maybe you need to go to the TES website and realize that searching for the lost is damn well not strickly "business" Get informed before you speculate about that which you do not know ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:03:43 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: rmcalo on January 02, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Just finished watching Greta. I know this has been said before, but it is SO BIZARRE the way Cindy points to that newborn photo of Caylee and tells Greta that it reflects Caylee's personality perfectly: "You better behave because she's got her eye on ya." WTF??? First of all, Caylee's got her eyes closed like a typical newborn and why would Caylee be saying "You better behave . . . " anyway? Strange family, strange, strange, strange.
Oh, and despicable, too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 11:04:48 PM
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What was the topic again???

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Shell on January 02, 2009, 11:05:02 PM

I have nothing to hide, but I do not like the idea of joining a site and having a background check done. Are you serious?
You would be surprised at the number of forums that try to get personal information on you.    No I am not talking about SM. 

It's more like... when people get death threats they have the right to see who's after them and trying to spy. So for his personal protection he might do background checks, just routine. I have nothing to hide either.

I honestly do not know how he could do this, unless you need to give verifiable information on joining.  I don't see it as a big deal either, but understand why some might.  They are bountyhunters after all LMAO
Wow, all you all are paranoid. Anyone can buy background information on whitepages.com for 6.95 on anyone. Forum mods have your IP and I've even been traced to this forum from another one.
Look at what happened to Casey Anthony, she searched on how to kill her kid and it was all traced through a computer. There is no privacy. Keep your life clean and obey the law and everything will be ok.

I am not paranoid. I just play it as safe as possible and do not do things or go to places that might create problems. Do not label the prudent as paranoid---ok?

ok, so I did a typo, but you know what I meant  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: perriwinkle on January 02, 2009, 11:05:17 PM
I feel like I am almost ready for midnight on new years eve!  I have never been in the cage as we switched to a new one!  THis is gonna be a great time for a new one too!

 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: janetruth on January 02, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
There are many people who've involved themselves in this case for profit or publicity.  I believe Tim is revolted by these activities as he is genuinely not motivated by money or publicity.  To Tim, money is a necessary evil that enables him to accomplish his goals.  That's it.  Now, there are many others in this case who see it as an opportunity for financial gain.  Unfortunately.
Unless Tim is a non-profit he's in it to make money. Tim has some expensive toys.
Yes.  TES is a non-profit.

He still draws a pay check from Equusearch.

The man is not getting fat off it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:05:34 PM
(http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/3.gif)

What was the topic again???

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

The topic is the case of Caylee Marie Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: klaasend on January 02, 2009, 11:05:44 PM

Islandmonkey, thanks for your posting. Add that to my reasons for not giving LP my money nor my time.

Shell - seriously, why would anyone consider giving bounty hunters their private information and credit card info?  I wouldn't and I'm an honest person. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Wyks on January 02, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
No doubt that he's a fine character.
Is there a way that anyone in his org could have leaked info to Baez? Even accidently or someone on the inside with cruel intention?

Only person I can think of who has been here, there and everywhere, acting in what seem to be underhanded ways, is a woman with the initials JW.  Have deleted the rest of what I was gonna say.  Just saying... (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/zippedmouth.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Sassycat on January 02, 2009, 11:06:08 PM
Just finished watching Greta. I know this has been said before, but it is SO BIZARRE the way Cindy points to that newborn photo of Caylee and tells Greta that it reflects Caylee's personality perfectly: "You better behave because she's got her eye on ya." WTF??? First of all, Caylee's got her eyes closed like a typical newborn and why would Caylee be saying "You better behave . . . " anyway? Strange family, strange, strange, strange.
Oh, and despicable, too.

I totally agree.   And, CA is an idiot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
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What was the topic again???

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

The topic is the case of Caylee Marie Anthony.

BUMP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
(http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/3.gif)

What was the topic again???

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

The topic is the case of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Muffy, you are the bomb!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: jjayinthemorning on January 02, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
JJ Maybe you need to get more information before you decide to start posting what is and isn't here at Scared Monkeys.  I corrected your ASSumption about the IPS in that only Admin have posters IP's and not the mods.  So don't start that stuff here.  Just ask next time.

Also am I reading right, that LP site you joined has background checks?  But then when questioned you posted:

"I don't know about background checks.  I was speculating."  If you don't know, why say?  You spent almost a full page going on about background checks and why they are needed and then you aren't sure, you are speculating.

And then you bash Tim Miller?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Why are you here?

I think you are just trying to cause trouble.  JMHO



Sorry Muff, someone from another forum stalked me here. A mod at another forum.
I'm not bashing Tim Miller, I respect the man, I was just asking questions about him.
I mentioned background checks, which many private LE related forums do... and some people got scared.
My words are getting twisted. It's late.
Good night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: Bearlyhere on January 02, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
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Please move to Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #85

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4342.msg609841#msg609841



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84
Post by: MuffyBee on January 02, 2009, 11:09:08 PM
JJ Maybe you need to get more information before you decide to start posting what is and isn't here at Scared Monkeys.  I corrected your ASSumption about the IPS in that only Admin have posters IP's and not the mods.  So don't start that stuff here.  Just ask next time.

Also am I reading right, that LP site you joined has background checks?  But then when questioned you posted:

"I don't know about background checks.  I was speculating."  If you don't know, why say?  You spent almost a full page going on about background checks and why they are needed and then you aren't sure, you are speculating.

And then you bash Tim Miller?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Why are you here?

I think you are just trying to cause trouble.  JMHO



Sorry Muff, someone from another forum stalked me here. A mod at another forum.
I'm not bashing Tim Miller, I respect the man, I was just asking questions about him.
I mentioned background checks, which many private LE related forums do... and some people got scared.
My words are getting twisted. It's late.
Good night.

No, I don't believe you are not bashing Tim Miller.  And I don't believe your words are getting twisted.  Anyone can go back and read them in black and white.  You just got your hiney shamed here, that's all.  I don't have an axe to grind with LP, but don't run down Tim Miller to build LP up.  And you will never find me on a private forum, so I don't have to worry about being scared. Look back over what you posted.  IMO you are trying to cause problems here.