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Hey, I thought we had to wait til page 100 was closed to get to the next one. This somehow seems sneaky ::MonkeyTongue::

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Now I have to work. No if ands or buts.

How do you do that??????????  I'll have a cup of afternoon coffee, and Admiral, can you put a little somethin'-somethin' in it to get me through the rest of the work day?
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It was an accident, I swear!

When I saw me here, I rubbed my eyes and thought Sea Searcher must have slipped something into my coffee!!!

Not sure how that happened... I have a feeling we're not in Kansas any more! ::MonkeyEek::

 ::cartwheel::.... Since WS took the petition thread away, is anyone here a member of In Session, maybe the petition could be brought over there?

Quote from Scarlett: Hey Boo. I wanted my 100th post to be to you as you were the first one to welcome me and talk to me. It might only be on 99 though as I know it's a challenge to get in when the cage is about to be locked.
Not to mention Klaasend who helped me get into this forum. Thanks Klaasend. I rather enjoy it here. It's a real nice bunch with lots of info flying all around in the Caylee Case.

I also wanted to bump this for the afternoon monkeys!!

No Immunity For No One

Awww Sweetie! You know I just adore you and Sam Pickle Suit!!  ::MonkeyDance::

Awwwww, they're so cute Today! They're cute tomorrow & yesterday too!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

wow, just made it in time for a new cage!!!

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Anthonys' Attorney Meets With Prosecutors, Investigators

 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18430243/detail.html)
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 – updated: 1:26 pm EST January 7, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The lawyer for the Anthony family had a meeting Wednesday with prosecutors in downtown Orlando at the State Attorney's Office. George and Cindy Anthony's attorney, Brad Conway, met with prosecutors and investigators for about an hour Wednesday morning.


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VIDEO REPORT: Anthony Family Attorney Meets With Prosecutors (http://www.wftv.com/video/18429746/index.html)
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According to Conway, he was there to discuss Caylee's x-rays and autopsy photos that the prosecution does not yet want to release to the defense. On Tuesday, Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion objecting to the state's refusal to turn them over.

Prosecutors say they are refusing to hand over the autopsy photos and x-rays of Caylee Anthony's remains until a judge imposes more restrictions.

The defense wants the pictures of the remains, which were discovered last December, but prosecutors are concerned the photos could be sold to media outlets for financial gain. They want the judge to first issue an order that no copies of the pictures can be made or mailed and that they are only to be used by the defense.

Conway also told Eyewitness News that he's been trying to get immunity for the George and Cindy Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18429746/index.html

Dignity and respect..............MY A$$!!!!!!!!!!!
I see absolutely no dignity and respect in a store front mortuary in a strip mall with solid windows in front.

Just another excuse to kill time and B!TCH.  I am so infuriated with the defense's and the family's antics.

Need a Mad Monkey emoticon

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The Anthonys and their attorney met with prosecutors today regarding release of the autopsy photos, etc.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18430243/detail.html

Judge to address limits on images of Caylee Anthony's remains
 (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010709,0,7673697.story)
Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
12:27 PM EST, January 7, 2009
Casey Anthony's attorney today responded to prosecutors' request to limit what the defense team can do with the photos and X-rays of Caylee Marie Anthony's remains.

Jose Baez wrote in a motion that restrictions will place an undue burden - both logistically and financially - on the defense. The issue will be addressed Thursday at a hearing before Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland, who had previously ordered the state to release the images to Baez by this week.

Prosecutors asked Strickland to restrict what Baez can do with the three discs they are going to release.

The state doesn't want Baez to be able to copy, print or reproduce the images -- including sending them in the mail or over the Internet. And prosecutors want to ensure the photos remain with Baez and in the courts' jurisdiction. And defense experts must view them in Baez's presence. Baez argued in his two-page motion that most of the defense experts who would review the images are out of state. And he points out that the state's experts were allowed to take samples out of the state, including labs in Indiana and Virginia.

Meanwhile, local and federal investigators met with prosecutors this morning at the State Attorney's Office.

Sheriff's Office Sgt. John Allen and FBI Special Agent Nick Savage left about 11:30 a.m. and said it was a routine meeting to discuss the case.

Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, also met with prosecutors this morning. Conway said the meeting was related to state's motion about the images. The Anthonys were not there.

Why is Conway discussing this issue with the prosecutor?   hmmmm?     He's not KC's lawyer.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I bet he was only there to discuss their immunity.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Well, if they've done nothing wrong and they have nothing to hide,  why do they need immunity?

Good work girl! So I did the same thing. Here is what I wrote in addition to Dolce's wording. Feel free to copy it in your email and forward it to as many people in your address book!
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Please take a moment out of your time to sign this petition for Caylee.  We are petitioning to ABC to stop allowing the Anthonys to profit off of Caylee any longer. If you are unaware of who she is, she is a little 2 year old girl that was murdered back in June, her little body was discovered on December 11th. Her mother, Casey Anthony sits in jail waiting for her trial for the murder. She didn't report her daughter missing for 31 days and even then, it was the Grandmother that called the police, not her.

Her family is now shopping around the different networks for the best movie deal to show her funeral and memorial service! These people have made money off their dead grand child for months now. This must stop! This petition worked to stop Lifetime from making a movie, they withdrew their offer to the Anthonys. Now ABC has made a move to offer them money for exclusive rights to this horrendous story. They won't bury her until they get immunity which will then secure their movie deal.
 
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ABCprofitoffCaylee/index.html (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ABCprofitoffCaylee/index.html)
 
Thank you!

hope i was allowed to bring this over.... ::MonkeyEek::  If not, could someone delete then???

               YOU MONKEYS LEFT ME BEHIND.  
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(( everyone see that..now that's respect  ::MonkeyTongue:: ))

Anything you like darlin'... Bailey's seems to be the prefered choice  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0107/18429795.pdf

What a Fidiot....................

I guess he didn't learn his lesson yesterday, now he's bad mouthing the court officers

GMAFB.    Let whoever is financing the DreamTeam pick up the added expense.    ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

BOO, I wanted to let you know that I did a BIG GOOF... ::MonkeyConfused:: The first time I voted, I neglected to put a comment.  So, I went back and voted again with a comment.  When I didn't see my comment, I went back and did it again with another comment.  So, I got comment crazy after the fact.  
S O R R Y!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks, Quiet, but I'm madder than that. aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

Awww, it's ok G.O. we knew you'd find your way!  ::MonkeyDance::

1/6/2009 A STATES OF FLORIDA'S MOTION TO STAY ORDER DISPOSING OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO COMPEL PHOTOGRAPHS AND X-RAYS TAKEN OF REMAINS AND MOTION TO AMEND ORDER TO COMPLY WITH FLORIDA STATUTE 406.135

1/6/2009 A OBJECTION TO THE STATE'S REQUEST FOR AN ORDER STAYING THE ORDER DISPOSING OF THE DEFENSE EMERGENCY MOTION TO COMPEL PHOTOGRAPHS AND X-RAYS TAKEN OF REMAINS

http://www.myorangeclerk.com

Thanks for posting this, I wonder if Conway is begging and whinning to get immunity, I would think if the state wanted to give them immunity it would have been done by now. ::MonkeyNoNo::

It was shown on NG last night. I guess you can find it if someone you tubed it.

OH MAN, DOES IT EVER END WITH THESE GREEDY PEOPLE, DEAR GOD??? 

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I don't but it was on NG, someone probably has a video or picture of it. Good Morning to you and Mr. Joe.

I need steam coming out his ears and nose and not just annoyed the monkey.........p!!sed off the monkey. I probably shouldn't be on here right now. I'll try to behave.

BooMonkey,

The 1st bit of your good news was the state's refusal to hand over the photos, vids, x-rays, etc, until there is an agreement that they will not be distributed/used/copied for profit, right?

SOOOO, is the 2nd bit of your good news that the A's will be denied any immunity? I sure hope so.

"Conway also told Eyewitness News that he's been trying to get immunity for the George and Cindy Anthony."

I bet he's working hard on that one...and notice how after putting this out via the press any number of times, he's still waiting for that illusive immunity for his clients.

Thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I borrow him?   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

I sure hope so also. Your kitty sure is a cutie.

Well, doesn't the red bold word pretty much say it all?

Dr. G on Rachael Ray

Thanks JR we found it. I am at lunch and couldn't find a pic of it.

Thanks. I love my little fluffy pal.

Good morning Rose and Zoe.

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find it? TIA

I bolded what I thought was mighty interesting.  What is Conway doing discussing the xrays and photos with prosecutors?  This has nothing to do with his clients.  Casey is not his client.  I bet they want that immunity to be able to sell these things!  I said that yesterday that the immunity ploy was so that they could guarantee the funds keep rolling in and it looks like that is definitely the case.   There might be a 7 figure deal in the works that goes bye bye if the Anthonys get arrested or indicted for anything.

Please arrest these ghouls!

Thanks and WOW, I have never seen a morturary like this, in a strip mall. ::MonkeyEek::

These people make me sick.   All they care about is money.     :smt076

Here take your pick! Hope one of these will do!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Never mind, someone posted it. Thanks

"Jose Baez wrote in a motion that restrictions will place an undue burden - both logistically and financially - on the defense."

FINANCIALLY...FINANCIALLY...FINANCIALLY...FINANCIALLY...FINANCIALLY!

Hey, Jose! That's the point - so you and the scum you represent and her parents and all the hangers-on can't profit from the murder of this little girl! At least, no more than you already have.

WOW, thanks. I forgot about my fire monkey that nobody liked.

Oooops I didn't see this post yet. I posted you a gallery of ANGRY monkeys below. You can have anyone you want because they're not mine. I just found them out at pb site. Enjoy all those angry monkeys!!

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I bet it would give them a burden financially. Thanks for my afternoon laugh. This guy is a nut case and DESPERATE. I can't wait to hear what happens tomorrow in court.

I'm blown away... That's the first time I've seen that pix, no rose. Amazing! Could the A's have picked a crappier funeral home? They would have had to search long and hard. I hope their rates are commiserate with the looks of the place. Cheap would not be the word for it IMO.

So glad that someone else feels this way, too.  My first impression of the funeral home was that it looked like a diner in a stip mall.  Being down south, we have two local funeral homes that are in old victorian mansions and beautifully decorated and landscaped.  It gives a feel of respect and dignity, in MHO.  This place looked like an insurance office to me....

Thanks Quiet Monkey. You cheered me up again.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

I signed the petition and added a comment.  I had to sign it twice before my signature showed but my comment still did not show.  At least my signature is there.  So far there is not even 400 signatures.  Let's keep trying.  Thank you all for introducing me to the petition.

I'm absolutely speechless......

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The A's make me want to vomit!

http://www.robertbryantfuneral.com/

Welcome to Robert Bryant Funeral & Cremation Chapel

::MonkeyShocked:: ARE YOU SERIOUS????????
Is this really the funeral home where sweet little Caylee is??
Please tell me NO!!! Who would ever use a funeral home like this?? Is this for real????? I've never seen anything like it!!

Where's one of those po'd monkeys!!! I need one now!!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Please tell me that Caylee is NOT here!! Thankyou!

I think this was a freebie...Boo still has two secrets to tell us when she's given the green light....right Boo ?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks Today. That is sadder than what I saw on NG a bit ago. Is this close to their house or is it in the hood? We have pawn shops here that look better than this place.

Thanks Brandi

So I just walked in, why is everyone angry???  Did Boo give her new????

Or a PAWN shop!     ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Nice try. But to be honest I have no inside information regarding the Ants arrest or the states case!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Never, in my life, could I ever have imagined a morturary to look like that.  I wouldn't take even take a dead animal that place.    ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok, sorry, this is from last night, but thanks to the monkeys who made the privacy policies here clearer to me.  I feel good about it all now (especially after reading about other sites' behaviors), and I'm glad I decided to join this good group.

Where do they park the hearse (if they have one) I wonder. Back by the dumpster.
Also, how could they do cremations in a place like that.
I wonder if it's connected inside to the dry cleaners.

Very sad for a child that is loved so much by so many strangers.

Please, please arrest them.

Good Afternoon Monks..old and new...Today, thanks for posting this...very interesting that Conway is getting into this.......guess he wants to make sure he gets his cut.....hasn't he figured out yet that he is representing some of the most hated people in the world....and asking for immunity is a JOKE....if they weren't guilty of SOMETHING they wouldn't need immunity for ANYTHING.....

Hello everyone! Im new here..made my first post last night...just wanted to say hello  and i cannot believe caylee is in a strip mall..i hate the anthony's!

Sorry JSM - didn't see your post until after I posted almost the same thing.    Great minds think alike.

Yeah, we have classier looking, much more prosperous appearing pawn shops around here, ones that have grown up around a racino, and a chintzy one at that.

My dear Monkey friends, (and kitties and puppies, etc.)

Thank you for the pleasure of your company today.  I spent WAY too long here and talked WAY too much... ::monkey blush::  I must be off now, but it was nice to have the extra time today to get to know some of you.

I'll sign off with a link to an early video from George.  It's just well, literally, "unbelievable."  http://anakerie.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-anthony-speaks-and-lies.html (http://anakerie.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-anthony-speaks-and-lies.html)  (Posted August 3.)

Wow.  You just gotta see the whole video in all its pitiful glory. (It's about 9 mins.)  Filmed live outside the jail immediately after George visited Casey alone to get answers to some "tough" questions.  Full of OMG and WTF moments, weird mannerisms, nervous vocal stylings and sighs, and chock-full of classic Anthony B.S. quotes, including the infamous, "Dad, she's close."

Bye for now Monkeys!
Desi ::MonkeyDance::

Is this seriously a picture of the funeral home or are you joking?

Welcome to the cage   ::MonkeyDance::

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first of all.. this "morturary" looks like one of those FACTORY TO U.. IF PERFECT...
hey.. for 10 bucks we can fix you right up!

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second.. do the anthonys have a PR person anymore... cause darlin, this aint WORKIN..


third.. OT... i tried puttin a photo in my sig line...prolly didnt work... but hey... i figure some SWEET mod will fix it for me...



okay.. wishful thinkin has never been my strong suit...

That's so awful.  There's a crematorium I know in a strip mall like that, but calling it a mortuary and chapel?  What a depressing setting. 

Oh I see ...........well that's really nice.  What does it have, a drive up window??? 

Nooooooo!  Please tell me it isn't truuuuuuuue that she is here!
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<sigh>  Saw this as I was leaving the cage for the day.  Just wow.

Bailey's is a wise choice...my boss will just think I put a little cream in my coffee!  Of course, it will be a little difficult to explain the sudden rush of water, cabin cruiser, and naval officer in my office...but oh well....we'll just work through those minor details.  ::MonkeyCool::

What do you all think Judge Strickland is going to do about Baez's latest motion?  Personally, I hope he blasts them all...media included, and threatens all parties of the defense with contempt of court if even one photo gets out....or how about this...hold Baez personally responsible ie...."Baez, you will be in a cell, next to your client if even one of these photos shows up anywhere in the next 10 years"  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi kimmy2!

Welcome to the cage!

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BTW .. your avatar is gorgeous.

Is it bad to wish that some people like the A's and Casey could be forced into justice by an old fashioned, barbaric, communal burning or hanging???? Sorry, I am just so appalled with them right now!! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

okay.. that clearly didnt work...

So is there no law to say that Caylee would get a funeral fitting for a small child that didnt have a chance in life???   No protection????

Oh my...what a terrible "store front" for a funeral home. I come from a place that most of the funeral homes are in older home like buildings and are very nice and you have the feeling of "dignity" for the deceased and the family. This doesn't surprise me at all becomes it seems as cold as the way the family has treated Caylee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477456,00.html


Defamation Case Against Casey Anthony Delayed, Psychic Says She Sensed Caylee in Wooded Lot

What is Conway doing discussing the xrays and photos with prosecutors?  This has nothing to do with his clients.  Casey is not his client.  I bet they want that immunity to be able to sell these things!  I said that yesterday that the immunity ploy was so that they could guarantee the funds keep rolling in and it looks like that is definitely the case.   There might be a 7 figure deal in the works that goes bye bye if the Anthonys get arrested or indicted for anything.

Please arrest these ghouls!


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Russ, I totally agree with you.  

Since KC signed-over Caylee's remains to CinCin and GA, wouldn't that mean that only CinCin and GA have rights to any photos of Caylee's remains, and not KC?

Lighten up Monkeys.  This place is the old Kid Finders Network Offices.

Are you suggesting drop of service? (to the dry cleaners maybe)

No stacks, the cremations must be done elsewhere. 

What have those appalling people done now??  Putting poor little Caylee in a cut rate cooler!!!!! The whole family now makes their living off her blood money and just look where they have left her. None of them have worked since this started. This is beyond disgusting. I don't think I can manage to watch much more of this. LE needs to stop them, now!!!

Casey Anthony Hearing Set For Thursday
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2..._thursday.html

I spent most of my life living on a farm with TB's and beef cattle. It offended me to send any of them off to the "glue factory" because they haul the carcass off like garbage. I can't even begin to tell you how much more dignified an end to life that was for an animal compared to sending a child, supposedly beloved, off to that place for a funeral. I am horrified at how uncaring the A's appear to be.

Its pitiful, isn't it.   C&G have no class.  I hate them.     ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Welcome Kimmy2. A mortuary in a strip mall, can't even believe this. ::MonkeyEek::

Really.... pull up, they hand you the guest book, sign it and drive off.  GMAFB already, hasnt this sweet girl suffered enough??  Today is turning out to be just like yesterday and the day before and the day before that......depressing. 

Russ, I totally agree with you.  

Since KC signed-over Caylee's remains to CinCin and GA, wouldn't that mean that only CinCin and GA have rights to any photos of Caylee's remains, and not KC?
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I believe those photos belong to the State of Florida.   Not them.

so what is NEXT for these people? PLASTIC FLOWERS and reusuable coffin?

grrrrrrrrrrrrr


i sure wish i could post my pic... i even got a tiny url for it... i THOUGHT i put it in my siggy line... but clearly i am in dire need of help.... from some LOVEly monkey...

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I have to leave the cage for a while and try to recompose myself. I feel physically ill right now. Between the photos of the mortuary, interior and exterior, and the knowledge that Anthonys have been profiting from their daughter's murder of their granddaughter and would have continued to do so with her photos in death, I am just astounded beyond belief. (As I know we all are.) They treat Caylee like someone they despise, like someone with no worth whatsoever. How is this possible? What kind of people are these people? This was their granddaughter. I just don't understand and I want to cry.

Well, welcome back.  So would that be kind of you scratch my back.......kind of thing????

Yep! It looks like a strip mall in the oldest part of town here, nothing but pawn shops.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Just had a horrible thought, and I hope I'm wrong...

What if, what if... the A's picked this appalling hole-in-the-wall sorry excuse for a funeral home, just to rub the public's noses in the fact that we were so vocal and loud in our objections to their original plan to set up a fund to accept donations for funeral costs... Remember that?  Their attorney rescinded the announcement after a big public outcry...  Surely they wouldn't stoop so low as to do this to her out of vengeance or something??? (Think "spiteful b*tch") -- oh, I hope I'm wrong.   Okay, really must be going now...

Bye for now Monkeys!

Ok, now I get it...This is a single director operation (note location, small chapel with straight chairs to sit in... etc.) and I would bet $$$s that this service was donated by the owner to the As and is simply for publicity factor on owner's part.  No need for visitation, funeral cars, casket, vault, grave, etc. that increase cost of funerals for most. Cheap publicity on owners part and free on As part.

There is no way that a chapel that doesn't even have pews but has straight chairs for the family to sit in can afford a crematory on site.  Embalming likely done there but cremation work would most likely be subcontracted out to another site and doubt there are many on site caskets for purchase (catalog and can be received next day). 

Not knocking a businessman who is likely offering a service but now see why the choice of this location was likely made by the As.

Didn't someone say yesterday that C&G went and sat with Caylee's remains at the mortuary?  What - were they waiting for their dry cleaning to get done???    ::MonkeyEek:: 

This is pitiful!

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These are photos of where Heathers body is now....and we chose this place for it's beauty, activity so she would never be alone, and the wild life the runs around there all seasons.

How on earth could they choose such a dismal looking place for Caylee?
I am just sick !!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Dat's sooooo cute, boo!

And can you imagine while you are there viewing a loved one the fumes from the cleaners overpower you and you pass out. Disgrace.

Walk away for a while rmc, this case is just full of emotion.  It's very difficult to get it out in the open.  A little break always helps.  When you're ready to come back, we'll all be here...take care

From the looks of that place, Caylee's bones may spend eternity in that cardboard box instead of a casket.

So,  how is this fair?

We got this expensive dream team defending a slore who killed her child - and we can't even pay for a quality burial/memorial service for the poor child???     Shame on all of them. 

This Roberts guy, is probably letting them keep Caylee there for free just to get publicity, as we can see he needs some money if this is the only place he could afford to open his business, but I  think its gonna have the opposite effect and he will prolly close down after all this!!!!!!!!!

     The A's need to develope just a little respect for this precous child and stop all this foolishness and allow her to rest in peace!!!!!!  This is the type of behavoir they continue to present and then wonder why they get a bad rap from the public.Any (NORMAL) family would have already taken possecesion of this child, told the authorities everything they knew and had the most beautiful memorial service they could think of and be back home greiving, but feeling that they did what was best for themselves and Caylee at this time and under the circumstances that they now face!

    I dont care anymore what anybody says about me or anything else, but I will say that if they are waiting on immunity before they bury this precous child then we may as well get use to the ideal of where Caylee is now resting, because the A's are not gonna get immunity from the OCSD..they are fed up with these people just as the rest of the world is and I hope if Caylee has to continue to suffer by sitting in a box in this dump of a funeral home, then before long Cindy and George wil be the same type of surroundings.....There very own jail cell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
   

So now we have our proof that the Ants want immunity and are shopping around for deals on Caylee's autopsy pictures. Shame on WS for taking down the petition thread. Obviously the support this!!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ABCprofitoffCaylee/index.html

I'm with rmc, i'm getting physically ill over here.  I CANNOT believe the gull of those people.  It's almost a good thing that Caylee isnt around them anymore.  I hope she can see how much she was loved, just look past her OWN FAMILY...

CynInOregon... what a beautiful place, my mom who passed away five years ago today, is in a beautiful old cemetary.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Omg..what's going on?My power went off and then my Dad dropped by .....please don't make me go back to the old cage.
Somebody give me a quick update. ::MonkeyCool::

OMG!!!  I'm surprised it doesn't have a drive through . . .

That place is so beautiful and peaceful looking.  Thanks for sharing.    Hugs.

I totally agree, and I sure hope those two see a jail cell soon.

Russ, I totally agree with you.  

Since KC signed-over Caylee's remains to CinCin and GA, wouldn't that mean that only CinCin and GA have rights to any photos of Caylee's remains, and not KC?
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I am not aware she signed over anything to them, but if she did than yes they have some rights but the state wants to limit access on "evidence" to the defense team only.  These pictures are not their property because this is a criminal case.  They are trying to circumvent that imo, and they are trying to get immunity from prosecution so that they can profit from the release.  Baez might have been hoping to forward the evidence to them so they could sign on the dotted line for a 7 figure deal.  This would be how he gets paid and pays for the gaggle of defense experts.  I think they have all gotten a taste of the ABC deal already.  I see it has everyone running around, including the Anthony defense attorney that has nothing to do with the case against Casey. 

Russ, I totally agree with you. 

Since KC signed-over Caylee's remains to CinCin and GA, wouldn't that mean that only CinCin and GA have rights to any photos of Caylee's remains, and not KC?
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I am not aware she signed over anything to them, but if she did than yes they have some rights but the state wants to limit access on "evidence" to the defense team only.  These pictures are not their property because this is a criminal case, and some things can be exempt from the sunshine laws.  They are trying to circumvent that imo, and they are trying to get immunity from prosecution so that they can profit from the release.  Baez might have been hoping to forward the evidence to them so they could sign on the dotted line for a 7 figure deal.  This would be how he gets paid and pays for the gaggle of defense experts.  I think they have all gotten a taste of the ABC deal already.  I see it has everyone running around, including the Anthony defense attorney that has nothing to do with the case against Casey. 

In case anyone here is wondering why Cindy & George might be seeking full immunity.

During George's July 24th law enforcement interview... George relating a conversation he & Cindy had:

I said, technically sweetie they can come after you, they can come after us because we're withholding information.

George then recalls that Cindy said George I'm gonna do my own investigation.

George then tells Cindy we're gonna have to get an attorney pretty soon if you keep screwing things... You got to back up.

Taped Transcript Of George Anthony Interview ~ July 24th ~ Pages 63 & 64

The criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George said he plans to meet with the lead prosecutor and detectives to ask for full immunity for the Anthonys.

Anthonys: "We Pray These Remains Are Not Caylee"

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

http://www.wftv.com/news/18282120/detail.html

ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Does anyone think its possible that the furnal home that was choosen for Caylee was picked because it was hoped that the public would be outraged and donate money to have her services held in a beautiful place?

Wonder what would happen to any left over money?

I have been busy over here googling Funeral Homes and Cemetarys in the Anthonys area. In minutes I find much nicer, cleaner, beautiful places. How sad that I can put more thought into Caylees resting place than her own Grandparents.

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Anything new for us Boo?

Desi, thank you.  I wish I hadn't just finished lunch before watching GA.  His bobble-head gave me motion sickness.  There's a lot of "crap" spewing from his mouth.  What I thought was a hoot was when he made reference to a person knowing better than to lie, or they'd end-up there (jail).   I think that he and CinCin are perfect for each other!

Russ, I totally agree with you.  

Since KC signed-over Caylee's remains to CinCin and GA, wouldn't that mean that only CinCin and GA have rights to any photos of Caylee's remains, and not KC?
[/quote]Agree!

I was just wondering if the grandparents were given permission for the services however all I saw was that Casey signed over the remains to the funeral home. It seems to me she would have signed over the remains to her parents and they would have then taken care of the funeral home and stuff. Has anyone seen anything else on this?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8133607&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8133607&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)

I don't think you missed much Trimm... todays headlines are here on this thread I think..
 ::MonkeyWink::

WTF?? who in the hell sets up a mortuary and cremation parlor in a frigging strip mall!!  This is too much.......just too damn much...I am emailing the mortuary .....I am going to ask them if they are handling Caylee's funeral and/or cremation for FREE and if so I will offer to donate to ensure she has a proper and dignified service...and that frigging idiot Conway.....I have a few things to say to him too...DIGNITY! RESPECT!  His damn clients don't know the meaning of those words.  While the were out collecting money and sending the LE on frigging wild goose chances they let Caylee rot in that damn swamp!! There is nothing left to autopsy...how DARE he say the prosecution is holding up a second autopsy by not releasing the tape and photographs....OHMYGAWD!  I am so pissed....as Holly Golightly would say...I have  the mean greens now.........FOR SURE

Why was I not allowed to post, and then what I had written disappeared entirely?  ::MonkeyWaa::

Anyway, I was wondering if maybe the cremation was just done here (though no stacks, as someone pointed out), and the funeral will be elsewhere.  I hadn't heard the A's were church members anywhere.  But maybe they could have it at the church where the vigils were held?

does anyone have the anthonys address....i cant find it right now.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

om g... i am disgusted! i have never seen this before,,sorry if its reposted...

And another thing about George (And Lee!) that is odd. On the "Caylee is Missing" MySpace page, George and Lee advertised for "personal assistants". Volunteer personal assistants! Here's their "ads":

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - xxx-xxx-xxxx cell - (email address removed)

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee.com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - xxx-xxx-xxxx cell - (email address removed)
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-anthony-speaks-and-lies.html

it would not surprise me anymore....

The trust fund that is set up called "help find caylee marie trust fund" has enough money in there to bury her.  I was reading the stipulations on it yesterday (posted the link) and it said that the fund would hold at least 5 grand in there.  Again, the fund can be accessed to use for her burial, a decent burial.  I guess the A's dont wanna WASTE the money on THAT. 

Sunny........need this?
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4937 Hopespring Dr
Orlando, FL 32829-8646

Maybe Casey knew him. . On his website he doesn't look but maybe in his 30's but that could be an old picture. The info on funeral directories advises he has been in the area business for 10 years. Wow..if that is the same place he has had all this time what is he doing with the money? We all know it is costly to have funeral, burial or cremations.

Or so the public would have a place to come in a visit, a pop in pop out kind of place. Then maybe casually have a donation box there....not for Caylee of course......but for the Anthony's!

They are all CRAZY!!!!!!

and they live at the wrong address, there is no HOPE at that location!

Let's not forget the stay at the Ritz and the $100 meals.  They can't afford?  No, they don't want to part with one red cent!

Dat's what I said!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

I have no idea, maybe the server burped?

Honestly, I think they chose this type of funeral home, because if they are planning a public memorial service and plan on cremating Caylee's remains, then likely ANY funeral home would not be able to accommodate their needs.  What you pay for in those big and nice funeral homes are the use of their facilities during the memorial, not just for burying the person.  I think no funeral home would be able to fit all the people that want to attend a public service.  Hopefully they are planning a real public memorial that will require a more public forum so everyone can pay their respects to Caylee.  I know that is probably giving the Anthonys too much credit, but it's just a thought I had on why they would have chosen a place like this.

I know that I got kicked out for a few minutes - so maybe so!

They are opening themselves to spies working for them and wow...you could write a book after that.
Do they think they are celebrities? Oh no..that's right...celebrities would pay you work for them. This is pure stupidity on their part. If you are not getting paid then don't sign a disclosure agreement which I assume they would have one. 

Hi everyone!   ::MonkeyDance::

A bit behind, so if this has already been explained, please forgive..

For those signing that petition re the ABC deal, writing a comment and not having it show up.. That's because the comment was too long. 

They provide a box to write your comment in, and if the comment is even one space longer than the box provided, none of the comment will appear. 

That's probably why some have signed twice, cuz the first time around only their name showed up. 

 

Thanks. I know everyone here understands. I am just going to rant for a minute -- I am back already, because I just started stewing in my anger and thinking that perhaps the whole family planned this missing child business as a way to make money, from the get-go. As far as I am concerned, the whole lot of them are murderers, no matter what was planned or not planned, because they were all complicit in her death.

They covered and continue to cover for their daughter.

The way Lee tore up that memorial to Caylee near their house spoke volumes.

Then, when people refused to put any memorial items by their house but by the crime scene, they coldly gathered all the items, drove off, and gave them away in a show of mock concern for the poor.

Now, this pitiful convenience-store mortuary is speaking even louder about their true feelings for Caylee.

They don't give a sh*t about this child. Family of turds. I have had enough. I pray they are arrested.

George has a "hole in his heart big enough for a truck to drive through"??? Yeah, right. More like, the whole family has a load of bullsh*t big enough for a truck to haul away.

I totally agree with you, Jody.

Thanks Sea,After seeing the coffin.......can't go there right now.Brings up too many emotions.I would never have had my son in that place.
Got to take a break.BBL.

New Cage...Page 9  ::MonkeyShocked::

What have I missed?   ::MonkeyEek::

pb

Just back at the computer after being away most of the day.  I haven't read everything yet. 
Did I read that someone tried to post the link for the petition on WS and they took it down?    I'm a member over there too but since they are so picky about what you write and anal that I came over here.  It also seems that they lock any posts about LA. 

Thank you, Wyks for explaining that for us.

  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

I am wondering - or hoping maybe- that the media was mis-informed about where Caylee's remains were being held.  I just cant see this being the place.

Every night i leave here ...thinking..nothing else will suprise me with these people...until the next day and BOOM...feels like a slap in the face..i seriously hate them all...i'l be back later..i have a knot in my stomach thinking of precious little caylee in that place

Does anyone have an email address for Conway? I can't find one on his website or I am too damn pizzed to see it!!

Me too....to say it's disgusting would be a compliment.  I wonder if there are slot machines in the back room ?  I am so grossed out.  Never in my life have I ever seen anything to equal this.

Since it's been clearly said that Caylee's remains/bones were in a box, does that mean that the As's sat with the box between them on a chair, or in front of them on the floor?  That's just all horse manure and I don't buy one bit of that crap.      ::MonkeyNoNo::

The thread for the petition went poof. ::MonkeyConfused::

heykim:

I have instruction here for posting your sig image if you still need it.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg611020#msg611020

Also, you should look around there, I posted quite a few things just for you! ;-)

Sorry for the O/T ... but was just answering a question.

Yep.  I went over there - and it isn't even in their "basement".   
What's wrong with them? 

This is all I can find. His website is not very ......................maybe like his skills

Bradley A. Conway 
Address: 390 North Orange Avenue Suite 1630
Orlando Florida [ FL ] 32801
 (407)246-0803     (407)246-7121     www.bconwaylaw.com
bradley (at) bconwaylaw.com 

You're welcome SweetMorgan!   ::MonkeyWink::

I have no clue what is wrong with them!!!!!  I only go over there now when I want to find out something specific if I haven't been on the forums for awhile.  Usually I can find out what I want from all you smart monkeys!!!

Pretty much all the news is in the new cage.

Conway talking to prosecution about the photos -   don't know why since he is not KC's lawyer - except that the A's want to make money off of them.

The place where Caylee sits, waiting to be laid to rest, looks like a pawn shop.

Conway says he talked to prosecutors today about immunity for C&G.

W/S took the petition off of their website.

pb - Lots of reasons to be mad.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

Right.  They get a lot of info from this site, too.    But, they aren't even allowed to mention this site over there.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

If the petition link you all are referring to was posted here, I believe it was on the 2nd to the last page of the old thread.  I tried to move it over here, never did see if it worked, so a copy would also be on the first page of this thread...ok, hope i didnt confuse anyone... ::MonkeyConfused::

It really IS hard to believe, Leroy!  It's appalling, disgusting and surprising.  And then I think, wait.. this IS the Anthony's choice, so that explains it in full.  Dunno why I was expecting the most beautiful place in town. 

Whatcha want to bet when their Yorkies pass, they'll have the finest arrangements?
   
Poor Caylee... none of them deserved her!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not confused at all - there's a link somewhere around here   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Just messin' with ya Shan  ::MonkeyWink::   

I think we should all try to think of who to write/call and express our disgust with the funeral parlor that the A's chose for that precious baby.  I'm much better at e-mails but I will put letters in the mail if I have to.  I know if this was my grandbaby I would take out a loan or charge it to have a decent burial/cremation of her remains.  This family just makes me sick and everyday it's something new.  All they see are $$$$ and so does everyone involved with these idiots (not what I really wanted to call them).

I might be confused - but we are talking about W/S deleting the petition, not Scared Monkeys...   I hope I'm not confusing you now!     ::MonkeyConfused::

Does any monkey live nearby so they can go in and check the place out? 

Ok, trying to catch back up, but wanted to reply to this. That's what I thought too when I 1st heard about it, then when I saw this pic I got worried it might be the case. I don't get it though, why, if this is true, are they even thinking like this. Or as someone else said a few pages back about doing it to "spite" people because they originally asked for donations. Is this their way of saying "well we said we needed help to pay for this funeral", since they didn't get financial help this is what Caylee gets? I really hope none of what I just wrote is true, but I'm worried it may well be the reason they are using this "place". If those aren't the reasons, than WHY? I can't believe that they can't give her a decent burial in a decent place. I don't know, I'm getting tired of trying to figure why they do or say anything they do or say.

It drives me  ::MonkeyConfused::!

Here it is.   http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ABCprofitoffCaylee/index.html

Well, Casey did tell Cindy in a jail house visitation that the two of them are so much alike. The "spiteful bitch" had to have learned it from someone.

Just sayin.  Spite may "run in the family."

True Brandi.  I'd like to SPITE them all right upside the head  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/056.gif) I'm sorry Trimm

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LOL ok Leroy, GOTCHA!!!!!   ::MonkeyCool::

This is just so sad and pathetic. Everytime I think there can't be much more any of the A's can do that will shock and stun me, not to mention infuriate and upset me, they top themselves. EVERY SINGLE TIME! It does not pay to cut them even the slightest bit of slack because they are going to do something even more over the top. I have NEVER EVER seen any family that compares to them. And they seem to attract other lowlifes like Baez like a magnet.

The answer to that would be OT and we would need a clean cage LMAO

No, Sassy, boo I think posted a link to a petition here at sm.  it was on the 2nd to the last page of the last thread.  I tried to move it over here when we changed cages, would be page 1 or 2 of this thread, but i dont know if it worked or not.  Just a link to a petition is all i know  ::MonkeyEek::

The mortuary is a dump, but would the cost to cremate or have a viewing there be any different than a decent mortuary? Or are there mortuaries that have discounts? Where I'm from there is only two mortuaries in town, and it is just preference where you go. ::MonkeyConfused::

I am also appalled at all that is gong on right now. They have things they can sell, if they wanted to give her a proper burial. Look at the nice cars they drive around in. I am sure they have equally valuable things inside their home. I would sell anything and everything I had to if I could place them in a more decent place to be in before burial.

They already HAVE the money to bury her from the original trust fund. They don't need the fund anymore after Caylee is gone so why in the he** would they keep it. I feel tempted to just write them a letter and send it to them so they know exactly how disgusting they are but I am sure they will just throw it away like they did Caylee. They would look inside to see if it had money in it and pitch the rest.

The fact of the matter is not the morturary but that if it wasnt for geed this baby wouldnt be in any place like this at all, she would have already been buried and her memorial would have been over. Its too bad the Anthony's didnt put their foot down and say, look your not holding our Granddaughtewr another minute, too much time has passed while she was laying out there in those cold dark woods and we are gonna lay her to rest NOW!   All they care about is trying to find some way to help Casey get out of jail, and thats not what they should be worried about right now!

Hi Wyks...sorry I missed you last night  ::MonkeyWink::

Considering the amount of available funds in the trust, the enormous amount of media coverage, and the claim that the A's want to restore their public image....I'm just stunned that this is the funeral parlor they've chosen..just when i thought I was nothing more could shock me about this family..

maybe this is just a temporary place while a larger church is being arranged? what about the church and the pastor that hosted the vigils ?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's apparently what they did with the cards and gifts people sent them. Remember the trash lady?!

 ::MonkeyEek::

Here is the map to it.......it is for sure not in the better part of town.

http://www.robertbryantfuneral.com/images/rbfuneral-map.jpg

Hi and good afternoon, (I will apologize for my lengthy post now!) ::MonkeyCool::

I was doing some research on something else and I found this site with some good information on Pathological Liars. I've been reading in the previous locked thread about Jesse and Casey's relationship. There was one post that had commented in regards to Jesse not knowing the Casey he sees today and that she was different than the person he knew her to be. A caring mother, a loving gf and then she doesn't get what she wants (his name on the BC) so she tells him she is breaking up with him because he loves Caylee more than he loves her. I'm sure Jesse tried to convince her otherwise but it's quite a hard topic to call her out on. What she really meant is this: Because you are a nice guy Jesse and want to step up to the plate for Caylee, this is really all about me....and frankly, I don't need you anymore...so I am going to say this is about you and Caylee rather than you and me because you won't be able to convince me otherwise, I'll have a clean break, your heart will be broken but I will be free to move on to my next victim.   If she had said hey look, I'm breaking up with you because you spend too much time at work, it gives the other party a chance to 'fix' the situation. Casey knew that there was no way he could 'fix' the breakup and that is why she phrased it this way.

I know that we all think of this in normal terms. How would we react if put in the same situation. I believe Casey has always been like this and she has used different tactics to get what she wants. To Jesse, she wanted to dupe him into being the father. To Cindy she wanted to get out of all the trouble she was in for the stolen money. To Tony, she wanted to be the perfect girlfriend. To Amy, she wanted to be the best friend. If you notice she has a lot of males in her life. When she is finished with why she was with them to begin with, she discards them. She discards some out right all together. She keeps some as 'friends' in the event she might need something in the future. They are always in her arsenal in the event she needs something. She can play the damsel in distress, the victim, the hard worker, etc. And if you think about it from a 50,000 view, you can see all of her nets she has cast out. She tells Cindy, don't talk to Jesse, stay as far away from him, I don't trust him.   This creates fear in Cindy. Fear keeps you captive. Notice how she told Cindy that she was protecting the family AND Caylee by not giving any information about the situation. By being the protector of the information she gets to be in control and that is what she wants. Don't go talking to Jesse because he might say something that I can't control or manipulate and things might start to fall apart.   And so, what did Cindy do? She fell for it. She started to make up her own irrational fears and started to accuse him. It seems hard to believe but that is what happens when we allow someone to think for us. My speculation is that Casey has used whatever means necessary to get exactly what she wanted, more candy, a new doll, a friday night out with her HS friends, etc. When you look at her, she looks normal. Why? Well, she's an attractive girl. If you were to just see her at Target, you would not have a thought in your mind about her being a pathological liar or psychopath. This is how society has shaped our thinking. Good people are good looking, Ted Bundy, Bad people are Ugly, Charles Manson. Put the two of them in a room and who would you trust more? Either way you are toast.

So, Jesse nor Tony, Nor Amy, Sean, Ricardo, etc ever really knew her as we see her because Casey did not allow them to know her. When they got too close for comfort, she told another lie or if a lie wasn't going to do the trick, she was going to come up with a great excuse as to why things were this way, ie, George's STROKE.

I don't believe she is a smart person, logical, rational, etc. But she believes she is. She believes she is smarter than everyone because she has all of these puppets to control and she likes that feeling, it's addictive. Just like in the movie people were talking about earlier, American Psycho. Patrick Bateman (main character) only shows a bit of himself to Evelyn, his GF, to the guys at the club, no one really knows him because he doesn't really know himself. He knows he should (entitlement) (Amy's vacation to PR-Stolen Checks) have what the others have (reason for Envy (which is different from Jealousy) THE best business cards, the best seat in the house at the best restaurant in town...etc. He uses his good looks and status to get what he wants, sex, promotion, lies, sabbotage, murder, etc. The stakes change based on what these people want. The only time (in my opinion) that he comes clean a bit is too his secretary, Jean. Something interrupts him from shooting her head with a staple gun and he asks her to leave. He cannot complete the killing. He starts feeling the pressure, he starts telling people he murders people. Partly to shock them and then partly to relieve himself of this burden he carries around.

Now, I love Brett Easton Ellis the author of the book and this movie is funny because of the satire involved and the over the top characters so I am not mortified by the plot at all. At the same time, it shows you what could go on in the mind of a normal, good looking, successful guy. It really should be a wake up call to everyone, that we really don't know people. We don't really know what goes on in the head's of our friends, bosses, family even. At the end of the movie, you see his secretary sitting there looking at the notepad, his thoughts, his rage, etc....and she is looking mortified, I'm sure going back in her head to when she was over at his house. And further, did this really all happen or was it only in his head? I'm sure that each one of Casey's 'friends' have done this already....I wonder what she was thinking when we went to the mall, to Blockbuster, etc. It's a creepy feeling at the very minimum to think we could have been that close to a potential killer. It shows us that we are vulnerable and we don't like to feel this way.

So, here's the link. I have pasted the good parts but it's too long to paste everything.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/display/article/10168/1162950?pageNumber=1
June 1, 2008
Psychiatric Times. Vol. 25 No. 7
Pathological Lying: Symptom or Disease?
Charles C Dike, MD, MPH, MRCPsych

The further observation that pathological liars usually have sound judgment in other matters and the observed association of PL with other criminal behavior in approximately half of the cases supports the notion of intact reality testing. The crimes associated with PL include theft, swindling, forgery, and plagiarism.4 It is worth noting, however, that some pathological liars are successful professionals without any public record of crime.

PL should be differentiated from other psychiatric conditions that have been associated with deception. This is complicated because lying behaviors that mimic PL have been described in certain personality disorders and in factitious disorder. The core symptoms of those personality disorders—antisocial, borderline, histrionic, and narcissistic—are often apparent. For example, the falsifications that may occur in borderline personality disorder (BPD) are not usually of the elaborate, fantastic, or complicated nature seen with PL. Patients with BPD often lack a consistent self-identity, hold contradictory views of themselves that alternate frequently, often make false threats, and are prone to false accusations of maltreatment and/or abandonment. Conversely, pathological liars do not show the intense affective dysregulation or suicidal behaviors that characterize BPD. In antisocial personality disorder, the lies are often for external gain, and there is a history of conduct disorder in childhood, unlike in PL. Furthermore, the lying behavior in PL covers a wider context than in factitious disorder, in which lying is solely for the purpose of assuming a sick role.  

I just for the life of me cannot figure out their greed and disrespect, I wonder if Cindy and George's parents have tried to talk some sense into them? I feel so bad for Caylee's great grandparents. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Casey Anthony's Motion On Caylee's Remains

 (http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0107/18429795.pdf)

Trying to catch up.    Limited computer time....

would someone please re post the funeral home pic?

I believe you all it must be a dump...just wanted to see for me own eyes...sure it will be on NG tonite too...

TIA

Prosecutors Motion On Images Of Caylee's Remains

 (http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0106/18424883.pdf)

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dang...that's three today...looks like I missed you again Wyks  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks, it certainly isn't in the best part of town.

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Very informative luckycharmsprincess, thanks.

Thanks Brandi.  That is kinda sad.

Thank-you Today for posting the motions.

After reading the motions it is my opinion that Baez will win a good portion of his motion tomorrow.  No nanner throwing please.  Just keep in mind that the prosecution has achieved what it wanted by making the situation public.  Since the prosecution's complete motion was not there, I am still wondering about who is the owner of the photos.  Of course it would be after the fact, but I do not see how anyone could keep money from the sale of photos that did not belong to them.

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 A photo of the same place dated 2007. Guess they have not been there long.

OH...REMEMBER...they tried that little trick as well.  Wanting donations to buy Caylee.  Then it was STOPPED.  So....the sympathy now, as cause THE PUBLIC HAD HAD ENOUGH OF THEM. 

Hey Kim!  I'm behind so not sure if you fixed the problem and I FWIW am not good at this at all but try putting a space between the ] and h and also between the 6 and [.  I'll keep my eye out to see if it works.  If fixed, disregard.

Lovinlife

SORRY..should have read...to bury Caylee...not BUY....

How can you edit posts...after submitted.  Guess I should learn how to do a preview first...Sorry for this again.

hellooooo monkeys!

a couple of quick thoughts here,
1. I think the most probable cause for them choosing this mortuary is money..and by money, I mean that they aren't having to spend any. I'm sure this place offered their services free of costs.
2. along with that, it is possible that this will not be the location of either memorial service. Maybe it's a guise..or to throw people off..who knows. They are all about appearances..so you never know.

lastly, I know that a lot of us would like to think that caylee's memorial service, her remains, her final resting place so to speak, would be lavish and honor her the way that we think she deserves, but the truth is, nothing would be good enough for that..because she didn't deserve to have her life taken at all. And, without getting too religious, I'm just going to remember that it's not Caylee in that place. She is already in heaven, oblivious to what is taking place here, and she is at peace, and happy.

also, and this might be a mute point, but the truth is that however humble this mortuary/cremation place is, it IS used by other people who are laying their loved ones to rest, who possible cannot afford a "proper" beautiful ceremony,etc..so I'm having a hard time knocking the place..that's just me tho.

No edit functions enabled for us. I always preview (a few times, even)  LOL

 ::MonkeyDance::

Thank you... ::MonkeyWink::

pb

I know in Iowa we have what they call Crime Victims Law that helps people pay for medical care and other stuff related to victims of crimes.  Not sure if it helps with funeral costs though.  If they have it in Florida and if it does help cover funeral costs would it apply since the murderer was the baby's own mother?

ok, i am officially the dumbest monkey ever! is there anyone here that change my ava? i have done it before but i can't do it now. Brandi, made me some new ones on page 10, i think. i would like the Oscar2framed one right now. i'm sorry! Brandi made me the most adorable ones & i can't do it. tia.

wendi (dumb monkey) ::MonkeyConfused::

There is no immunity for vile and indecent behavior-agree to the prosecutors demands about the pictures-then work towards immunity

Nicnic, thank you for bringing up this point (and for making me feel guilty...ha).  My family is not wealthy and I would not love them any less if this was all they could afford for me. 

I second the thanks.   And, also the thanks to Today for posting the motions.

Any news from Boo?  Any hint of a document dump?  TYIA! ::MonkeyWink::

lol, hey now. don't feel guilty..my first thoughts weren't so humble either..
The way I see it is..the funeral is basically for the family that is left behind. The one who has passed isn't really there. So I don't care what happens to 'me' after I'm gone..I would just hope that whatever DID happen was okay with all of my family. that it was respectful for them.. ya know what I mean? :)

Nicnic - been lurking most of the day but had to log in to respond to your post - Best one today, here,here!

Hi SS!  I still got one of your hugs last night, thanks!  And you didn't scare me off!  Am thinking that sev of us were pedaling fast to catch up is all.  ::MonkeyWink::

I agree with you, it's stunning their choice of funeral homes.  Seems to me that if the A's were at all concerned with improving their public image, they would have outdone themselves with a beautiful and appropriate arrangements for Caylee.  If not for her and what she is deserving of, at least to try and make the world think more highly of them.  In choosing the place they did, it's basically thumbing their nose at anyone who cares about Caylee.  IMO.  Not so sure that this is a temp place while better can be found and arranged for, cuz seems to me they've certainly had plenty of time to find such a place. Folks with only a few days notice have managed far better than this. 

Ya know what I think?  (and probably other monkeys too)  The trust fund that has the funds to bury Caylee, the A's didn't want to use it at first, wanted the public to pay for the funeral, and seemed to only 'think' of the fund when the public raised a fuss.  Anything in the trust fund that says *how much* of that money is to be spent on the funeral?  Seems to me that the A's, having gotten backed into the corner and forced to use the fund for what it was intended for, have decided to use *as little* as possible from that fund. 

Basically, it all goes back to their greed greed greed, and making this about themselves, not Caylee.  Other than the fact that little Caylee died, this hasn't been about her in the slightest ever since.  To me, that's the saddest part.  :( 
 

thx.. i fixed it with the help of trial and error and BRANDI (in the brandi avatar page which is a MUST SEE btw!)

Yeah.  You're right.    I feel a little guilty, too.     

I agree 100%.  And I think the not so humble feelings with this situation is because we are dealing with the Anthony's who have not shown one ounce of respect for Caylee....EVER!

But again, thanks for bringing up that point as it is very true.

what! where's my
"keep it casual" ?

LOL. just kiddin, but seriously, thanks!

It looks great!  Now I know why she (BRANDI) can't get sleep at night!

FWIW, Anthony's are damned if they do and damned if they don't so to speak.  If they spend extravigant amount on Caylee's funeral everyone thinks they stole the $ to pay for it.  If they don't spend squat, they didn't give her the dignity she deserves.  Just hurry up and give her a proper burial already!  Don't leave her body in that cold place.  I agree her spirit is in heaven with Heather.

Taken from the Defence motions concerning Caylee Remains:

"10.  The state would also be misguided by relying on the Earnhardt Law because there can be no statutorily created protection of privacy that trumps the constitutionally protected right to due process and the right to have a fair trial."


OK- once again Casey's rights are more important than the rights of Caylee.  It is more important that Casey recieve a fair trial than it is for Caylee's remains to be protected from being publically shown on every tabliod around the world.  Even in death this little one is less important.  And in fact, is protected less by the constitution than her murderer.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree too!  I have no idea how much a funeral or cremation costs but I heard somewhere that there was around $5000 or$6000 in the Trust Fund for Caylee to pay for her burial. 

I know what you mean about the Anthony's, and I think we have all struggled with that bitterness. It's just a sad sad situation...

I agree with you nicnic (the part in purple). I understand there are people who can't afford the beautiful funeral homes (that's what we call them around here). Actually it makes me a little sad to think of that.
Still, I've never in my entire life seen a funeral home in a strip mall. I personally don't understand why someone would have one there. Strip malls are usually for small retail stores and business offices. I don't even think, atleast around where I live, zoning would allow for a funeral home to be in a retail strip mall. Just a wild guess on my part, but as I said it's just an odd thing for me to see. Maybe in some towns it's a normal thing to have funeral homes in a strip mall. It's just a little foreign to me.
Don't get me wrong though, I don't mock anyone if they go there because it's all they can afford. I understand there are some who can't afford anything else. Of course it's just an assumption that a place like that would be cheaper to use, actually I don't even know if that's true!

A1, you really know how to make this monkey feel good.  I check in about once a month, and you always manage to notice!

You're welcome.  And I think that you know that with my wicked/warped sense of humor - I didn't want to touch that picture with it.

Be casual, as always
 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

Awww, Wendi he's soo cute! His name is Oscar? He's adorable and I'm not a cat person, I was when I was younger though, so I still have a little place for cats in my heart!

The difference that I see with the Earnhardt's and the Anthony's is the Earnhardt's didn't want his autopsy photos in the tabloids and the A's want to sell the photo's of their granddaughter to the highest bidder to help pay for their daughter the murderer's defense and to keep the gravy train rolling.  Sorry I had to vent!!

O.K.,I'm back.Just had to clear my head.
It doesn't matter what this family does.It will never be good enough,because none of this should be happening.
That whole family let Caylee down.There will be no closure...it will never be alright.
They make me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Going back to my corner now.  ::MonkeyCool::

that is true QuietMonkey, it is odd to see it in a shopping center like that..
I've seen churches in them tho..actually have been to one ( it was great- they finally got their real one built) but hey, I chalked that up to "highways and byways".lol

you guys, don't feel guilty cause of what I said..it was just..i dont know. it was just kind of me struggling out loud with it.LOL.

Hi Thx for all the nice welcomes. PJ that would be cute but my dtg is now gone and I don't know how to put that on my pic? My DTG put the pic up for me, I am not good with the techy stuff. ::MonkeyConfused::

while i TOTALLY agree that the simple funeral arrangements are PERFECTLY fine.. heck my own mother kept my dads remains in the veterans tin box on her BED (hey! dont sit on dad! ) for quite a while, as she couldnt bring herself to scatter them as she had planned...

i AM somewhat flabberghasted at the amts of moola the anthonys spend on other things.... and choose to have their beloved granddaughter taken to a .. .. uh.. a INTERESTING choice of places... given the .. COVERAGE...

of course.. it canNOT be said that they are TRYING to cater to the desires of the masses now, can it...?


just a note: my dads remains are STILL in that box... although mom died in 2001...
sister in boston is the keeper of the ash... dads, moms , my  big sister's.. AND sometime soon, SOME of the ash of my big brud who died last year..(the rest of bruds is in a vets cemetery in his trusty TRAVEL COFFEE MUG... HONEST! i am not lying)

mine? i have let EVERYONE know (and even you guys now !) that i want to be scattered on the basketball court  of the ROSE GARDEN in portland or...during a game... hopefully during a HATED LAKERS game...

yanno.. just WHOOSH.. oops.. sorry... didnt mean to get KIM on ya there buddy...:)

yeah... i am TOTALLY about the arrangements being what the person and family wants....

and for the record.. becareful who you sit in front of at a portland trailblazer game someday..;)
and if you happen to get a PIECE OF ME on ya.... take it home and spread it where YOU want ;)

Thanks for your post, luckycharmsprincess!  Well thought out and excellent points.  And thanks for that link, great info there too!   

HELLO!?!?!?!?!  Come on Numbersgirl!  Help a cold, ice covered, sick of the gray skies, co-numbercruncher, Ohio monkey out!

 ::MonkeyShocked::  THREE in one day?  OMG the horrors of it all.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Tell ya the truth, SS.. didn't even notice until you made the self-edit.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Am thinking we monkeys are good at knowing what the other one meant no matter what. 

Doesn't mean we won't kid the heck out of each other tho.  hehe 
 

No need to explain nicnic. I understand what you were saying. It really was just a big disappointment to see that is were Caylee is until they lay her to rest. I just expected more I guess and felt "let down" for Caylee. I know she's not really there, but to those of us alive and who know what happened to her and how she layed out in the woods for 6mos, it's sad to know she's lying there in a box in a strip mall mortuary. I guess the expectations were higher. I hope where ever she's laid to rest that it's beautiful and peaceful.

  Only they coould find a place like this. whats is left for these people to do.  They offend everyone in everyway possible

I have. We had one here like that up until a year ago or so. Actually, it was an 'Outlet' for the main office/Funeral Home. Nothing but paperwork took place there. It was right next door to a Cigarette Shop, lmao.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmm.. no hints lately from Boo. 

Didn't want to do this.. but

*dragging out the tea pot* 

Oh, Boooooo????  c'mere lil puppy.   ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Nut,I have to say I learn something new here every day.

Ok, sorry this is OT, but wanted to post this link. Maybe it's not funny, but for some reason it seemed a little amusing to me.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Divorcing-Husband-Wants-Kidney-Back-From-.html

Again, sorry for the WAY OT!  I'm a bad Monkey!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wyks,Glad to see you. Now pass that tea pot over here.   ::MonkeyDance::

TY Wyks for answering!  Does she usually come when called?  She's been mighty quiet today!

Hi dogmom, welcome to the cage!   (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)

I am proudly owned by a blk/tan, destuffing, squeakie fanatic, 2-dogs-long doxie too!    ::MonkeyDance::

 

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/    Second autopsy complete.

QM, I didn't finish reading it but I did find it amusing.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyShocked::

pb

You know, I just hink it is ludicrous for the MURDERER to be given more rights than the victim.

See this site for an interesting read

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/publications/infores/62596.htm

Good. Now she can be laid to rest!!

"As long as the rights of the accused are


protected but the rights of victims are not, time and again, the


victims will lose."  President Clinton

Anthonys want limits on Caylee's images.  http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

Good to see you too trimm!  *passes the tea*   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thank NoRose.  ::MonkeyCool::

BBL

pbxo

Thank you Quietmonkey! Brandi did it for me! We had to put him to sleep a couple of months ago & it was so hard. I found him & his sister, Lily at the garbage dump. We had him cremated so he will always be with us. When we had to put him to sleep (kidney failure) my husband & i were so upset, he forgot to tell them we wanted him cremated, when i called & asked what they were going to do with his body, they said they had a "disposal place" i couldn't stand the thought of Oscar, who someone put out like a piece of trash, being treated like trash after his death. that is a HUGE reason I HATE THE ANTHONY'S. They are treating their own grand daughter with no respect. that is just sick!!!! yes, i know Oscar was a cat, but he was loved! i really don't know if Caylee was ever truly loved by the Anthony's. it's just so sad. sorry for the long post.

sorry o/t (kind of)
wendi

Good for them...  After viewing the remains themselves, they probably do not want to see that splattered all over the world.  IT would NOT be good for their daughter  in any way either.  That would only hurt her case.

You're welcome Lovinlife!  Oh, and haven't heard yet about any doc dumps, just hoping.  Other monkeys may have heard tho. 

Haven't noticed Boo coming when specifically called, and yeah she's quiet!   ::MonkeyEek::  Just was hoping that a *nice cuppa tea* .. ahem.. might lure her out and loosen her lips, errrm fingers.  heheheee    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hmmmm.. This is good to know!  Thanks no rose cg! 

pink, are they actually expecting you to work today?  the nerve!  ::MonkeyEek::

 

OMG!   ::MonkeyShocked::
I'm going to watch my granddaughter at her gymnastics.  Be back later. 

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How could the second autopsy be done, if the defense team didn't have the info from the state? I thought they were waiting for it to be turned over, before they could proceed?

???????????

Have George or Cindy made a public statement since Dec. 11th other than thru their attny? 

???????????

(not that I'm complaining)

Dear cyndi (that is me not Cindy A.)
 
Thank you for signing the "ABC should not profit off Caylee Anthony" petition at iPetitions.com website.
Your signature is valuable and makes a real difference. Please encourage others to sign the petition as well. To do that, just forward the text below to everyone who might be interested:
 
------- FORWARD THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS -------
Hi,
 
I wanted to draw your attention to this important petition that I recently signed:
 
"ABC should not profit off Caylee Anthony"
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ABCprofitoffCaylee?e
 
I really think this is an important cause, and I'd like to encourage you to add your signature, too. It's free and takes less than a minute of your time.
 
Thanks!

I was wondering the same, but I dont think they did.

(i'm a freezing ohio monkey too)   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Thank goodness.  Sounds like another tid bit from Boo could happen this week.  Flowers & candles are ready.

Somebody is lying. Imagine that. Just earlier today the defense is claiming they need the pics and x-rays to do their 2nd autopsy. What gives?

Okay so if the autopsy was just now completed, then Caylee wasn't at that mortuary right?

Awww, Big Monkey Hugs Wendi! Oscar was beautiful, I love that picture. Brandi did a great job! I had cats when I was a kid, and I'll never forget two of my favorite cats!! They were awesome cats. I have a great dog now, but I haven't had a cat in about 20yrs. Like I said I still have a little place in my heart for cats!

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Plenty of popcorn, snacks, and drinks are ready too!   ::MonkeyWink::

My oh my Baez is busy.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/7/casey_anthony_hearing_set_for_thursday.html

# The Case Against Casey: Extended Coverage
# State's Motion to Stay Order Disposing of Emergency Motion to Compel Photographs and X-Rays
# Motion to Compel Unedited 911 Calls Made by Roy Kronk and Any Reports Related to Calls
# Motion to Compel any and all Polygraphs Which the Defense Has Previously Requested and Been Awarded
# Motion to Compel DNA Reports for George, Cindy and Lee Anthony
# Demand for Discovery and Inspection Relating to Digital Forensic Evidence Obtained From Ricardo Morales
# Motion to Produce Hair for Inspection and Testing and All Related Notes and Reports
# Motion to Compel Fingerprint Report for George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony
# Motion to Compel Investigative Reports on Zenaida Gonzalez
# Motion to Compel Maps, Photos and Reports of all Locations Searched by Law Enforcement for Caylee Marie Anthony
# Motion to Compel Release of Investigative Interviews of George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony
# Motion to Compel Release of Video Visitations of George and Cindy Anthony on August 14, 2008
# Motion to Compel Search Warrant Affidavits for December 11, 2008 and December 20, 2008 Searches Including Inventory of Items Seized and Warrants
# Motion to Compel Timeline, Communications and Related Notes of Law

Good to see you!  Is the sun even still up there?  I think I'm going to look at some vacation pictures so I can remember what it looks like! 

I can't beleive it's been almost a month since we've heard that yappin' jaw!

That's a good question, maybe the autopsy was done at the mortuary, I don't know if they do that, but they must have. Leroy is such a cute pup, and he looks on the sassy side.

Hi there my frosty friend...I'm logged in, but I'm still at work so I just get to peek into the cage now and then.  I'm hoping for a document dump or that Boo can give us some news soon.  I'm really upset at the thought of anyone making any more money from Caylee's death...it's beyond tragic to me.  I wish there was a way for the judge to demand full financial disclosure.  Also, I have a problem with Conway intervening in the issue of Caylee's remains.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh goodness I hope it wasn't done there!

Thanks - Leroy is a handful!

Fifteen motions filed today by Baez.

I don't see any difference here and what the defense is asking for, or the state for that matter.  I think the defense just wants to be able to send them to other defense members.  This is a problem for the state because the court will no longer have jurisdiction. 

However, the statement by Conway only lists the people who can see, it does not go into the details of how.  This statement to me is just a protection so that the pictures are not distributed freely, they want to hold onto their value.  I don't get this, I don't think they own the pictures, so I wouldn't think they would have any say so. 

I think the state owns the pictures and I am sure there are rules in place that prevent them from selling these types of pictures.  IIRC there have been charges brought against MEs and lab techs for doing this, I seem to remember a case in OH.

Thanks Russ!  I hope they're all DENIED!

Yeah, it sounds a little fishy (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_fish.gif)to me too! Which is it? Is NG misinformed? Or JB lying? Or what?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Not a peep from CA  - but I think GA make a statement to someone that LA had moved home.

I bet most are granted - its part of the discovery process.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/7/casey_anthony_hearing_set_for_thursday.html


In the additional information it links to each motion today.

He is really after Kronk, Ricardo, Zenaida still, Lazzaro, and LE.

Also, there are more unreleased interviews from Cindy/George/Lee and a visit to Casey has yet to be released it appears.

ITA, waiting for information is frustrating me.  It seems like the same old, same old Anthony unbelievable BS lately.  It's getting tiring.  Maybe it's just the lack of vitamin D?

And the answer is......ding ding....JB is a moron!  And prolly lying   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

RE: the Anthonys choice of funeral home


I know everyone has talked about how the Anthonys appear to be well off.  I tend to think they're heavily leveraged and are putting on a show.. which is their pathology.

Everything from their PERFECT family to the PERFECT marriage to the PERFECT home to the PERFECT and EXTRAVAGANT cars.  Someone's putting on a show IMO.

Having to shell out actual cash for a funeral (which aint cheap, we just buried my father over a year ago in a modest ceremony and it was upwards of $13k), may be something that would be financially difficult.  One also has to wonder about their real financial position considering George's past financial issues, plus no one  to my knowledge is working right now.

In a morbid sense, Caylee missing is actually financially good for them.. look at all the $ they're bringing in selling her pics and doing interviews.  No one can deny it looks like they're cashing in.. at least from the outside.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does anyone think there's a "behind the scenes" whizzing contest between Conway and Baez?   ::MonkeyConfused::

I believe the state owns the pictures, too.   My guess is that the defense could leak a couple of pics, then blame the leak on the SA Office - and then cry that KC can't get a fair trial, blah, blah, blah......

LOL!  an "Ohio saying"!  Yes I do.  Definitely not going out for drinks together!

Hey monkeys!!

Just wanted to drop in to say hi and show off my new avi (thank you so much Brandi).

I agree with you Lovinlife - they are damned if they do and if they don't.  But they have brought that on themselves. Now we are so against them that they can't do anything right because we can't trust them or their motives.  They need to just lay Caylee to rest.

With that said, nicnic's post was awesome...thank you for writing that...I think it merits quoting again:

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Quote from: nicnic on Today at 03:26:42 PM
hellooooo monkeys!

a couple of quick thoughts here,
1. I think the most probable cause for them choosing this mortuary is money..and by money, I mean that they aren't having to spend any. I'm sure this place offered their services free of costs.
2. along with that, it is possible that this will not be the location of either memorial service. Maybe it's a guise..or to throw people off..who knows. They are all about appearances..so you never know.

lastly, I know that a lot of us would like to think that caylee's memorial service, her remains, her final resting place so to speak, would be lavish and honor her the way that we think she deserves, but the truth is, nothing would be good enough for that..because she didn't deserve to have her life taken at all. And, without getting too religious, I'm just going to remember that it's not Caylee in that place. She is already in heaven, oblivious to what is taking place here, and she is at peace, and happy.

also, and this might be a mute point, but the truth is that however humble this mortuary/cremation place is, it IS used by other people who are laying their loved ones to rest, who possible cannot afford a "proper" beautiful ceremony,etc..so I'm having a hard time knocking the place..that's just me tho.
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Have a great evening monkeys!!!!

Vitamin D.....Vitamin D.....oh yeah, now I remember that.  The SUN right?   ::MonkeyWaa::

This will be a busy day in the court room tomorrow, hope Baez is prepared. ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks again!  I can't wait to read it thru.  If the defense is granted this motion that means it becomes public, right?  Maybe I'll change my mind.  I need a new info "fix" in a bad way!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh yea, seeing who can get who thrown under the bus first.  But I think its only about the monetary things.  Of course, JB would throw the A's under the bus in a sec for KC.  Not sure about the other way around.

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ST. JOSEPH, Mo. —  A Missouri man accused of killing a 36-day-old baby was not only the boyfriend of the child's mother, but was also her uncle.

That was part of what came to light in the first day of Steven Zorn's first-degree murder trial, which continued Wednesday in Buchanan County District Court. Zorn is charged in the beating death of Cora Jean Lockhart on Jan. 7, 2008.

Prosecuting Attorney Dwight Scroggins told jurors that Zorn started dating the baby's mother, Suzan Lockhart, when she was pregnant by Zorn's half-brother, David Petty.

Cora Jean was born Dec. 2, and by then Zorn lived with Lockhart and her two other children.

Just over a month later, Scroggins said, the baby was beaten to death.

Defense attorneys don't dispute the baby's cause of death, but believe evidence will show that Zorn did not knowingly kill the child with deliberation

O/T but just shows that the incest thing does happen much too often.  JMO

Yes.  And most if not all will be granted.  I just don't understand why Baez has to ask, its part of the discovery process.

jr...thanks...my darn computer froze up and it has taken me forever to get back online and to SM

Baez is entitled to all of that info.     He'll get it - and hopefully, we will too - soon!

I second that.......  ::MonkeyHaHa:: what a putz.

Every time I read about Baez et al being in court it seems the Judge reprimands them for not filing information correctly, not following procedure correctly or being completely imappropriate, such as the personal attack on Mr Morgan, so I am not too worried about the number of motions he files- he will end up no getting them as he apparently hasn't much of a clue how Court works..
   

**snipped for space**


Who knows?!?!?!?!?! He probably couldn't find it in the CrackerJack Box!

That's why I totally wouldn't be shocked if Caylee is Lee's.  IMO, especially which siblings who are very close in age and w/o a lot of adult supervision, incest is not "normal", but not unexpected.  I think Dr. Phil did a show a few years back about it and people were really shocked at how common sibling incest is.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: My eyes are never gonna be the same.

Links to the .pdf motions

 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html)

Nick Savage of the FBI and Sgt Allen met with State prosecutors today, Brad "conman" Conway, the attorney for the Anthonys joined them. Conman said that "they have more talking to do" when he first got a mike in his face upon leaving the building. Then he said that the meeting was more about the State's motion to protect images of Caylee's remains & x-rays & now states that the Anthonys do not want anyone to profit from them.
I think they are backtracking since they can't get hold of them either & this is yet again another attempt to cover their original intent. I also do not believe for a second that Brad didn't try to negotiate full immunity for his client based on two things: his original comment after the meeting stated above & that Nick Savage was with Sgt Allen for this meeting yet BC did not walk away with a deal...if you ask me judging by the WFTV raw video he looked a bit disappointed & concerned that he's not getting what he wants for his clients as easy as he projected to the public...  here's praying NO DEAL & they get charged.

Baez responded to the State's motion OMG he compared this hold up to the State being allowed to send evidence out of state for testing....what a friggin fool! Forensic testing has NOTHING to do with the issue here & their is NO comparison. The issue here is literally protecting images of Caylee in death & making sure NO ONE profits from them as well as respecting her remains & memory.    He said in his motions that the State's request is "without merit or precedent" OMG he cant be serious stating that with a straight face!   The world knows it was an issue in the Anna Nicole Smith case, Jon Benet Ramsey & many more, even Elvis for the love of God!!!    BUT HOLD UP A HOT SEC, its breaking now that the second autopsy is complete, well color me confused!   Was he not belly aching that he needed the x-rays and pictures to conduct the autopsy?   Was the family not holding up the funeral for the 2nd autopsy to be complete?     This is outrageous & I havent even read all the motions Baez filed (15) yet :2brickwall:

Just watched wftv at 5. Exclusive interview with PI Hoover. He stated that PI Domenic Casey called him Nov. 14th and told him to come to town. He knew Caylee was dead and he knew where the body was.
Hoover met him on the 15th & 16th of Nov. and he filmed the area while DC talked on his cell phone. Does not know who he was talking to but stated that DC has as many as 3 cell phones.
This interview was done with Hoover and his atty. I'm sure it won't be long before wftv has the video up on their site.
 Something is definitely amiss in the Anthony camp. Let heads roll.

Also forgot to mention. John Allen was involved and said the news was good for them

No wonder the Ant's want immunity.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

WOW!    wHAT A BOMBSHELL!!!!   THANKS FOR THE INFO.

Holy carp!

Thank you Jr.    ::MonkeyWink::

Here's the video

http://www.wftv.com/video/18432779/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html

P.I. Says Partner Knew Where Caylee Anthony's Body Was
Wednesday, January 7, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A blockbuster development unfolded Wednesday in the Casey Anthony case. A private investigator, who worked with George and Cindy Anthony, just told Eyewitness News his partner knew where Caylee's body was and their search for it was on camera.

Kathi Belich interviewed Jim Hoover and his attorney Wednesday afternoon. Eyewitness News broke the story and continues to work the angle of the mystery videotape recorded by private investigators working for the Anthonys.

The videotape reportedly showed the location of Caylee's remains weeks before they were discovered and it could be evidence that helps link Casey to her daughter's death.

The private investigator gave his videotape to detectives Wednesday. The evidence appears to be key incriminating evidence against Casey Anthony in the murder of her daughter.

Private investigator Jim Hoover and his attorney told only Eyewitness News on Wednesday afternoon that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, after months of insisting Caylee was still alive, told Hoover on the morning of November 15 that Caylee was dead and that he knew where her body was.

Private investigator Jim Hoover, who volunteered his services to the Anthony family, brought his camera equipment and tape to an Orlando law office where he and his attorney met with the lead investigators from the Orange County Sheriff's Office and the FBI for about three hours.

When the detectives left with Hoover's ten-minute video of the scene from November, they seemed encouraged.

"Can you tell me whether this helps you move forward in the case?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked Sgt. John Allen.

"Very helpful," he said.

Hoover and his lawyer sat down with Eyewitness News minutes later and revealed some of the information Hoover shared with the detectives. They said Mr. Casey called Hoover on November 14 and asked him to come to town and meet at Mr. Casey's office on the morning of November 15. That's when Mr. Casey told Hoover that Caylee was dead and that Mr. Casey knew where the remains were.

"Does Mr. Hoover know who told Mr. Casey that?" Belich asked Hoover's attorney, John Liguori.

"No, he does not," he said.

"Does Mr. Hoover know who Mr. Casey was on the phone with at the scene?" Belich asked.

"No, he does not," he said. "And it's our belief, based on his recollection, that numerous calls were made on the 15th and 16th search."

Hoover turned over his video of the search of the scene where Caylee's remains were found a month later.

The tape was handed over at the office of WFTV's legal analyst, William Sheaffer. Sheaffer is not representing any of the parties involved, but was asked by Hoover to facilitate and speed up the turning over of evidence to investigators.

I guess LP wasn't lying!!!!      Now, I'm really wondering about the Meter reader - and his supervisor!    I hope NG lets LP talk tonight!

Here's the article

http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html

That's exactly what I thought.  I don't know how he does it, but Sexy Man gets a LOT of reliable info before everyone else.  (And yes, a decent amount of not so reliable info too!  ::MonkeyEek::)

BOO - IS THIS OUR PIZZA AND FLOWER MOMENT ???    ::MonkeyEek::

Hoover may very well be the hero that cracks this thing wide open!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

always1 said
It looks like he is around, according to the site meter (is that an invasion of privacy) - maybe he will pop up....
 klaas said
 Why would you know Rob's IP to know if he is on the site meter?
 always1 said
 Oh, I dont, I just know where he lives and what kind of computer it normally says.Sorry Rob

Always1
To answer your question-YES that is an invasion of privacy. I don't understand why ANYONE who comes here with a pure heart to discuss Caylee's case would feel the need to use the "site meter" to find out WHO is here or would care WHAT kind of computer someone has or care where they live.  Sorry, that scares me.

Anyone who knows Rob-knows that he is THE most kind and caring man around. He puts his heart and soul into these cases and often times reaches not only into his heart but into his wallet to help the families of missing people. But for obvious reasons(like the example above) he has had to step back and NOT post here as often as he would like -for JUST this very reason. 

And just to set the record straight..Rob lives with me now and has been using my laptop!! So you can't use that site meter to do your internet "sleuthing"! If you need Rob for anything...send me an email-I will make sure that he sees it!

Sorry for the OT everyone..
~meliss




Caylee will remain in "our" hearts forever.

i thought the A' were broke? there has to be money coming in from somewhere. (pics & videos of Caylee) i saw somewhere they paid their property taxes on 11/25/08, $1,160. i thought they were near bankrupcy or foreclosure ealier this year. does anyone know? tia.

'K, I'll fess up. I'm the one who started the petition thread. My guess - and that's all I have, adm hasn't deigned to answer my ? as to why it was pulled was because.....(wait for it).....

I wouldn't provide the links when I was bullied for them.

If any of you remember my first post here, I said that I wasn't all into that "link please" crap. I figure everyone has the same internet I do (well, NASA doesn't participate in these forums, do they?) and they can look it up for themselves. When I have the link, and if I think it's important, I provide the links. But I absolutely, in my gut, from day 31, hate it when someone says "Where's the link?" It's like they think a person just makes this crap up! I am not an Anthony, I do not lie. But, I also do not take kindly to being bullied.

sorry for the OT....(Klaas, really, I'm reaching out to ya here, this is sorta on topic, as it is about the petition....and I do not mention the site in my rant.)

Bump

Well, I guess that defense lawyer, legal analyst on CNN HL news owes LP an apology after attacking him last week.   

Now, the question is....

Who told Dominic Casey where Caylee's body was.....

1.  Baez
2.  Lee
3.  George and Cindy

Was the meter reader involved in this whole thing?

I got a lil behind, but I am ready too!
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/cattv.jpg)

I bet Nancy Grace is sorry she interrupted him.  She had the exclusive and didn't let it happen, because she thought she had a better point to make.  He he.

Stephen King couldn't have wrote this!

I am in utter shock.  The video exists.  They knew where the body was and this posturing from D Casey about suing Hoover was a grasp at straws!

O HOT DAM ....this is their jam  ::MonkeyDance::   And the walls are crumbling, crumbling down  CHARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Thanks for the update - the plot thickens !

Someone had to break ranks with this Charade of leeches tied to the Anthony debacle/family.  I felt it.

Looks like Hoover refused to buckle under threats from D. Casey.  He kept the tape and perhaps we have one good guy in the mix.

No wonder Conway seemed disappointed today!

NO IMMUNITY!

Maybe.  It also sounds like Hoover might be afraid his a$$ will end up behind bars - so he is getting smart!

The ironic part..........................during that time and up till the actual discovery, DC and the A's were playing up those sightings of the little girl at the mall.
Something smells and it ain't roses.

da da dum dum da ! The plot thickens .... the pot is being stirred ....
Hello all, this is all really good stuff today. 
ps I vote for Lee knowing ( and long B4 the middle of Nov ) 

Why is Baez motioning for the DNA tests from LEE, Cindy and George today?????  Incest???

I think everything is coming together today in shocking fashion in what is likely the story of the century.

Caylee will get justice!

Of course Lenny wasnt lying...the man admits he loves attention, he isnt stupid!   He wants justice for Caylee & knows Casey is GUILTY just like the rest of us sane minds...not to mention he has good reason to be rather upset with all the Anthonys & Baez for misrepresenting to him that Casey would cooperate with him in the first place...I've talked to Lenny quite a bit & underneath all that "persona" he has a decent heart & has cried like any father and grandfather would over this case

Motion to Compel Unedited 911 Calls Made by Roy Kronk and Any Reports Related to Calls (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Unedited 911 Calls Made by Roy Kronk and Any Reports Related to Calls.pdf)
Motion to Compel any and all Polygraphs Which the Defense Has Previously Requested and Been Awarded (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel any and all Polygraphs Which the Defense Has Previously Requested and Been Awarded.pdf)
Motion to Compel DNA Reports for George, Cindy and Lee Anthony (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel DNA Reports for George, Cindy and Lee Anthony.pdf)
Demand for Discovery and Inspection Relating to Digital Forensic Evidence Obtained From Ricardo Morales (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Demand for Discovery and Inspection Relating to Digital Forensic Evidence Obtained From Ricardo Morales.pdf)
Motion to Produce Hair for Inspection and Testing and All Related Notes and Reports (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Produce Hair for Inspection and Testing and All Related Notes and Reports.pdf)
Motion to Compel Fingerprint Report for George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Fingerprint Report for George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony.pdf)
Motion to Compel Investigative Reports on Zenaida Gonzalez (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Investigative Reports on Zenaida Gonzalez.pdf)
Motion to Compel Maps, Photos and Reports of all Locations Searched by Law Enforcement for Caylee Marie Anthony (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Maps, Photos and Reports of all Locations Searched by Law Enforcement for Caylee Marie Anthony.pdf)
Motion to Compel Release of Investigative Interviews of George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Release of Investigative Interviews of George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony.pdf)
Motion to Compel Release of Video Visitations of George and Cindy Anthony on August 14, 2008 (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Release of Video Visitations of George and Cindy Anthony on August 14, 2008.pdf)
Motion to Compel Search Warrant Affidavits for December 11, 2008 and December 20, 2008 Searches Including Inventory of Items Seized and Warrants (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Search Warrant Affidavits for December 11, 2008 and December 20, 2008 Searches Including Inventory of Items Seized and Warrants.pdf)
Motion to Compel Timeline, Communications and Related Notes of Law Enforcement's Interview with Anthony Lazzaro (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Timeline, Communicatinos and Related Notes of Law Enforcement's Interview with Anthony Lazzaro.pdf)
Motion to Compel Unedited Telephone Calls Made by Roy Kronk to Crimeline and Any Reports Related to Calls (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Compel Unedited Telephone Calls Made by Roy Kronk to Crimeline and Any Reports Related to Calls.pdf)
Motion to Inspect Photographic Evidence and All Items Seized at Crime Scene (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Inspect Photographic Evidence and All Items Seized at Crime Scene.pdf)
Motion to Produce Crime Scene Reports on Car Including Photos (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion to Produce Crime Scene Reports on Car Including Photos.pdf)
Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum.pdf)

I've lived in FL for a long time and haven't seen any funeral homes like that! Geez....it's a strip mall funeral home   ::MonkeyConfused::

Because he wants to compare it to the other DNA at the scene if any were found. Throw the Ants under the bus if he can.

Let's hope so!

Mags, very cute Avi!!

That is my thoughts to a degree.  His backup plan if the ZG defense will not work.

I don't understand why he has to motion for any of it.  I thought as part of discovery it had to be turned over to him. 

I'm thinking that maybe it is really their business office ???  Where you go to make arrangements, etc.  ??

dum-da-dum-dum-duuuuhhhhhmmmmmmmmm!

Could be for anything.   To throw C & G & lee under the bus.  Maybe there is blood evidence in the trunk, or on the pavers, or on whatever Caylee was wrapped in....    I guess we'll find out eventually.

I say no immunity until we see where all this goes.  It is not looking good for anyone here.....  Except Hoover!  Yeah!

I remember hearing this as well.... just not sure where.  That's why I'm not totally surprised at their crappy choice of funeral home.

This almost solidifies in my mind that the book was planted there after the water receded.  Either as "evidence" that the Nanny put the body there (after the Anthony's heard Casey on that recording with LE) ... or more likely to help a paid off persistent meter reader find the remains.

Me too...I vote they all knew a long time ago...

Its all for show.   The defense will cry that the SA office isn't turning over the evidence quickly.   They will get their motions granted, and a time deadline will come with it.  The SA Office will have about 10 days to compell.  So, in about two weeks or so, we should get a good doc dump, hopefully.

This is the address from their website:  http://www.robertbryantfuneral.com/
This is their chapel
(http://i43.tinypic.com/33a9g9f.jpg)

Hey KatGram!  Our posts crossed in the mail!  Great minds think alike!

Every time you think there can't possibly be another wrench thrown in.... along comes a tool box full.
I end up hitting my head on my desk at least once a day with all of this.
Thankfully it sounds like someone is finally stepping up and telling some truth here.
 ::MonkeyEek::

I have given that more than one thought, myself. Uh huh.

WOW,  and good luck getting immunity, no way will that happen, imo.

I know we have discussed that the Anthonys chose RB funeral in order to get donations....another possibility... RB funeral donated there services to get the media ?
just a thought

Yep.  I believe they knew from day 32.

OMG the Ant's picked the funeral home that looks like its in the ghetto!  (Down here that is what our ghetto looks like in Naples...they tore it down and rebuilt it pretty though)

Boo, Is this what we have been waiting for? Does it just get better from here?
C'mon Boo, I see ya.   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm way behind here, but I still remember the special recipe and Harry Potter spell I used on that teapot I awarded to Boo. Do I need to ask another trivia question? Is Boo still sick, or is she just milking it, holding out for more "tea"? ::MonkeyLaugh:: Heh, if all it will take is another pot of tea....

Thanks Littleone.  That's why I normally don't make a big deal out of members that don't post as often as they used to.  Some have reasons that are none of our business.

Thanks...[ I think I'll resist the urge to click on their "Comment" link. lol. ] I have never in my life seen a mortuary such as that.

My mom died in 1989, we had a nice mortuary take care of her remains. they had her cremated and gave her back to me in a sturdy box, smaller than a shoe box that had the ashes in a plastic bag tied off and placed in the box. My brother died in 2005, he was indigent and we could not afford a burial for him, but he had a classy mortuary picked out and when we told them we only had about $800 to take care of him with, they worked with us so we could have him cremated.  they cremated him and gave him back to me in the same kind of box my mom was in.  My brother's friends collected about $300 and we bought him and my mom matching urns with the money and they sit in my living room.

Just seeing that place where Caylee is makes me sick... $300 a night at the Ritz...and Caylee is in a strip mall  :gaah:

This is going to get very interesting. And the gall of Cindy and George going on Larry King Live in December, talking about tips of a live Caylee. Obviously, if there PI knew Caylee was deceased, so did Cindy and George.

MELISS! HOW EXCITING! that is terrific! tell rob hi for us!

Where I live, funeral homes are stand alone and have nice landscaping.  I have never in my life seen one right next door to another business!

Lisa

I didn't understand it either and just moved on.

Exactly.   Throw them in jail, already!     ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree Today.  ::MonkeyCool::

And another thing, how about the donations - to help find a live Caylee - they were receiving all this time?   wow.  just wow.

yup