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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #90 1/12/09 - 1/14/09
Post by: San on January 12, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/CJCktv820hA&hl=en&fs=1


~~JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE~~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:36:25 PM
TADA  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 12, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 09:37:09 PM
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 09:37:58 PM
*thud*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 12, 2009, 09:37:59 PM
 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: I skidded in on my bum!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 09:38:41 PM
Im still reading and trying to catch up in the other thread....but wanted to be here for the new cage too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 12, 2009, 09:39:51 PM
But, but I was going to answer the question about the FBI.  LOL not much of an answer since I don't know why the FBI is still involved.  Interesting isn't it that they are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
Sliding in... wheeeeeee!   ::MonkeyDance::

Will try to stay on topic now, Klaas.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 12, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 12, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
Oh yeah Leroy,the only reason I didn't get in 1st is because Sea tripped me.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:42:15 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Nite.  Hope you feel better!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 12, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
O/t

Hey Wyks,  Sorry to hear about your son.  I understand what you mean by respite.  My son just got out of the hospital a week ago, but he was there for 8 day and got great help.  We are now trying to get him in a group home.  Good luck, and your son and all mental health patients ae always in my prayers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:43:07 PM
Oh yeah Leroy,the only reason I didn't get in 1st is because Sea tripped me.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 09:44:12 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::
Good Night, sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 09:44:57 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Amen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:45:28 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 12, 2009, 09:46:58 PM
Time for Bed!!! I haven't been well so I get to have "happy medicine" but it makes me very sleepy!!! I think the PIs in this case will take some of the heat off of that poor meter man. I really believe the meter man is just tenaciously curious. The PIs and the A family are up to no good!!! I can't wait to see how this all unfolds~~~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:47:04 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Amen
Thanks Klaas. I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes. I know we have a freedom of speech here, but I don't like anyone dogging TM. I hope I didn't cross anyone or behave badly. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: theboyzmom on January 12, 2009, 09:47:10 PM
Wykes - Hugs to you. I am so sorry that you did not get better news. I will keep you in my prayers. I must say, I love the USA but the HMO system is seriously screwing up the mental health system.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 09:47:12 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 09:48:40 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.
Good Night, hope you and Joe sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:49:04 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

JSM - are you *passing out* already?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I am with you on Tim Miller.  He can do no wrong in my book  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 09:49:33 PM
Time for Bed!!! I haven't been well so I get to have "happy medicine" but it makes me very sleepy!!! I think the PIs in this case will take some of the heat off of that poor meter man. I really believe the meter man is just tenaciously curious. The PIs and the A family are up to no good!!! I can't wait to see how this all unfolds~~~
Me too, should prove to be interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Oh yeah Leroy,the only reason I didn't get in 1st is because Sea tripped me.  ::MonkeyCool::

oh ya...start trouble and run off...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 12, 2009, 09:50:20 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:50:33 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.
Good Night, hope you and Joe sleep well.
Nite Rose, ya'll stay warm tonight. Hope you and Zoe sleep well tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
O/t

Hey Wyks,  Sorry to hear about your son.  I understand what you mean by respite.  My son just got out of the hospital a week ago, but he was there for 8 day and got great help.  We are now trying to get him in a group home.  Good luck, and your son and all mental health patients ae always in my prayers.

Thank you dottie!  Sounds like you may need some hugs and prayers as well.  *Sending hugs your way*, and will keep you and your son in my prayers. 

I tried to answer as many of the replies to me before the last thread closed, didn't make it in time.  My thanks to all of you tho! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 09:51:20 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote

make mine extra strong please :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 09:51:33 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

LMAO~can you pass me one ::MonkeyTongue:: I think you and I see eye to eye on Tim Miller........a hero in my eyes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:51:49 PM
Time for Bed!!! I haven't been well so I get to have "happy medicine" but it makes me very sleepy!!! I think the PIs in this case will take some of the heat off of that poor meter man. I really believe the meter man is just tenaciously curious. The PIs and the A family are up to no good!!! I can't wait to see how this all unfolds~~~
Me too, should prove to be interesting.

The one thing that bothers me about the meter man is that his supervisor is a neighbor of the Anthony's. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 09:51:59 PM
Oh yeah Leroy,the only reason I didn't get in 1st is because Sea tripped me.  ::MonkeyCool::

oh ya...start trouble and run off...  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Night JSM~by the way I enjoyed your rant ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 12, 2009, 09:52:48 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Good night, Joesamas mama and josef!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 12, 2009, 09:53:51 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::

Missed your post that you were leaving, Trimm. Sleep well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 09:54:23 PM
Holy Crap .......... I almost fell out of the last CAGE ......lol

My findings Monkeys

Regarding - Lake Mary Jane and then some

I have been thinking about and looked into the House addresses with the Name Connections

So I was digging
Snipped from Wendi
Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 Hopespring Dr.

Fred Robinson Married to Barbara Robinson - who are from Ohio
Their current home address is 4906 Hopespring Drive Orlando

This is their Website
http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

The Religious Neighbors mentioned via Lee to Casey

For the life of me I can't find a actual location of this Ministry - just a P.O. Box
Does it exist in the House on Hopespring Drive?

They owned a Home separate of their Residence -and sold it 7/2008
I have the address and it is 14515 Story's Ford Road which is less than One minute from Lake Mary Jane Road which is where Annie Downing lives. If I am wrong about Annie I got it from the net - http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
Annies Address of 12221 Lake Mary Jane Rd, Orlando, FL 32832
Map it against -Fred and Barbara's House sold July 2008- 14515 Story's Ford Road Orlando Florida 32832 its walking distance. And it seems that LE as well if you chase Lake Mary Jane as well searched all of its areas surrounding for Caylee. I typed in Google Lake Mary Jane Orlando Caylee Anthony and a ton of stuff popped up in relation to LE searches.

4701 Hopespring Drive Was owned by Peter Gonzalez and Fredesvinda Lebron - now Divorced as of recent. Found documents of Foreclosure on this house yet, from what I see the house is still within ownership of Fredesvinda Gonzalez .. that the foreclosure paper's were rectified and removed.

This is for Monkey Knowledge and I offer puzzle pieces
I am sorry if sometimes I type backwards I have semi- pre-menopause mixed with a bit of dyslexia ..and in the middle of renovating my house  :gaah:
All my findings are from http://or.occompt.com

That took a long time to find all of this - and all I care is that it bring Progress ~ For Caylee.

K






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 09:54:46 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote



make mine extra strong please :)
clearly from the looks of this SCREWED UP POST ... i need it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:54:54 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

JSM - are you *passing out* already?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I am with you on Tim Miller.  He can do no wrong in my book  ::MonkeyWink::
It takes waaaayyy more than a beer and a half for me to pass out.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Give your puppies big kisses from me and Josef.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MnkeyBznes on January 12, 2009, 09:55:13 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   


Good Idea!  Count me in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 09:55:29 PM
Wykes - Hugs to you. I am so sorry that you did not get better news. I will keep you in my prayers. I must say, I love the USA but the HMO system is seriously screwing up the mental health system.

Thank you so much theboyzmom!  And I agree with you about the USA, also about HMO's too.  Scary, thinking of what it may all come to in the future, eh? 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:56:04 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Night JSM~by the way I enjoyed your rant ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks Island and I enjoy your pictures. Tim Miller is in my nightly prayers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote

make mine extra strong please :)

you mean there's another way to make it ? my machine only has one setting  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi heykim...or should I say Hey Kim ?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 12, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Good night, Joesamas mama and josef!
Night Brandi, thanks for Joe's new doo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 09:57:18 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   

I just set my DVR up to record it so I will let you know.  I usually dont watch it in the mornings since I am busy getting ready for work but I will watch it when I get home tomorrow evening.  By then you should know if the pic was shown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 09:57:20 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   

This is a GREAT idea!!  I can't watch but am happy to help write to these sponsors! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Night JSM~by the way I enjoyed your rant ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks Island and I enjoy your pictures. Tim Miller is in my nightly prayers.

Thanks~ he is also in mine and my daily prayers, along with all the other Monkeys who need our prayers. Give "evil" Joe as kiss from my St. Bernard Luci, I still don't think he's evil btw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:00:36 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.

I am wondering if its a picture of whatever it was that made them secure the Anthony's house so quickly after the discovery...like the children's book or something...just a thought because I also do not believe they would show remains of any kind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:00:37 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote

make mine extra strong please :)

you mean there's another way to make it ? my machine only has one setting  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi heykim...or should I say Hey Kim ?  ::MonkeyRoll::


heh... nope.. no other way to make it!
and yeah.. HEY  KIM! or ...uh.. kim .. get out of the way.. or um.. KIM.. SHUT UP you have NO CLUE what you are talking about..



any of those work.. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:04:03 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.

Mya is a really pretty puppy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: FloridaKatz on January 12, 2009, 10:04:31 PM
Greta is on and covering the case.  Tim w/TES is the guest right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 10:04:36 PM


heh... nope.. no other way to make it!
and yeah.. HEY  KIM! or ...uh.. kim .. get out of the way.. or um.. KIM.. SHUT UP you have NO CLUE what you are talking about..



any of those work.. :)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: thanks...I needed that.. let's see if I can get this outside of the blue box but I think once it's screwed up, it's always screwed up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 10:04:41 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.
Beautiful pup.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:04:55 PM
Nite all monkeys. Rose, I hope Zoe does well tonight. It is really getting windy here. Thank goodness wind doesn't bother Joe. Sleep well all monkeys. I will catch up in the morning.

Good night, Joesamas mama and josef!
Night Brandi, thanks for Joe's new doo!
Hello  Rose....I think I have finally caught up   whew


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.

I am wondering if its a picture of whatever it was that made them secure the Anthony's house so quickly after the discovery...like the children's book or something...just a thought because I also do not believe they would show remains of any kind.


link for this please? thx!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
Greta is on and covering the case.  Tim w/TES is the guest right now.
Thank-you, what are they saying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
TIM ON GRETA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:06:07 PM
Go Tim GO   ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
 ::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 12, 2009, 10:06:50 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:07:11 PM
Greta is on and covering the case.  Tim w/TES is the guest right now.
Thank-you, what are they saying.


GRRRRRRRRR no CLUE what they are saying... hubby just channel surfed.. and now has it back on STUPID SCI FI..
(my apologies to anyone who likes sci fi.. ...personally my LIFE is sci fi enough)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 10:08:03 PM
Greta is on and covering the case.  Tim w/TES is the guest right now.

Greta is covering Caylee's case?? with Tim it could me this one or Natalee's..

If she says anything worth while (which is rare these days) please post...Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 12, 2009, 10:08:14 PM
Woo Hoo! You GO TIM!!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 12, 2009, 10:09:36 PM
Tim on Greta: I won't turn over a single piece of paper to Baez without a fight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:11:07 PM
hubby switched just as tim said HE WOULD APPEAL if judge told him to turn over info..


pssssssssst.. SS... you got it outta the box... but i think you screwed up next post..or else i am doing to much switching btn ESPN and here to read right...


course that is just an excuse... i learned it from the ANTHONY SCHOOL OF MISINFORMATION...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:11:13 PM
O/T - Jeff Brown, the criminal defense atty that is on, is YUMMY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 12, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:13:23 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
Holy Crap .......... I almost fell out of the last CAGE ......lol

My findings Monkeys

Regarding - Lake Mary Jane and then some

I have been thinking about and looked into the House addresses with the Name Connections

So I was digging
Snipped from Wendi
Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 Hopespring Dr.

Fred Robinson Married to Barbara Robinson - who are from Ohio
Their current home address is 4906 Hopespring Drive Orlando

This is their Website
http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

The Religious Neighbors mentioned via Lee to Casey

For the life of me I can't find a actual location of this Ministry - just a P.O. Box
Does it exist in the House on Hopespring Drive?

They owned a Home separate of their Residence -and sold it 7/2008
I have the address and it is 14515 Story's Ford Road which is less than One minute from Lake Mary Jane Road which is where Annie Downing lives. If I am wrong about Annie I got it from the net - http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
Annies Address of 12221 Lake Mary Jane Rd, Orlando, FL 32832
Map it against -Fred and Barbara's House sold July 2008- 14515 Story's Ford Road Orlando Florida 32832 its walking distance. And it seems that LE as well if you chase Lake Mary Jane as well searched all of its areas surrounding for Caylee. I typed in Google Lake Mary Jane Orlando Caylee Anthony and a ton of stuff popped up in relation to LE searches.

4701 Hopespring Drive Was owned by Peter Gonzalez and Fredesvinda Lebron - now Divorced as of recent. Found documents of Foreclosure on this house yet, from what I see the house is still within ownership of Fredesvinda Gonzalez .. that the foreclosure paper's were rectified and removed.

This is for Monkey Knowledge and I offer puzzle pieces
I am sorry if sometimes I type backwards I have semi- pre-menopause mixed with a bit of dyslexia ..and in the middle of renovating my house  :gaah:
All my findings are from http://or.occompt.com

That took a long time to find all of this - and all I care is that it bring Progress ~ For Caylee.

K

Deenie, thanks for finding these puzzle pieces, it all helps!  Must have taken quite a bit of time digging for all this, thanks again! 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:13:45 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.

I heard that, ny son was talking to me and I couldn't catch everything he said, I just heard him talk about all the dis-information being put out there......carp, now I will have to wait for the freaking transcript to come out ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 12, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.

OK OK...ALL YOU DOGGIE PEOPLE....I WANNA TALK ABOUT DOGGIES TOO  (boo hoo).  I have one but he just mooches and naps!  So, I can talk about my duckie in my avi named Douglas....deal?  ok, deal!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I love him very much too...he waddles and loves rain and worms!!!!  lmao  ok, i feel better now!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

So very cute!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:15:34 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: Wykes thank U ((hugs))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 12, 2009, 10:16:08 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Cappuccino on January 12, 2009, 10:16:27 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:17:36 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


HH, is your daughter going to be on this season of AI?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 10:17:47 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!
I just heard that. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 10:17:56 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.

Interesting...where did that 12 feet come from then...can't blame Lenny (which I know many like to do) because NG said it before he was on..hmmm

I didn't think Tim would turn over the records willingly....what did Strickland rule on that motion does anyone know ?...TIA

CBB...as you can see, I love the gifs you left in musings ...Thanks again !  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 12, 2009, 10:18:19 PM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 12, 2009, 10:18:27 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!

 :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 10:19:37 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   

This is a GREAT idea!!  I can't watch but am happy to help write to these sponsors! 

Thank you to all that are willing to help with this.  I don't even think Mr. Kronk should be paid for any picture.  I think it's alright that his travel is paid for and he can tell his story though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:21:03 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


HH, is your daughter going to be on this season of AI?
No.....this one coming up was actually taped back in october,     She goes to Disney World in April to try out!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:22:26 PM
Wyks

What I do not understand is this website of Fred Robinson -
They offer all of these Services and even state they were granted to be a Tax exempt Non Profit and yet they offer no physical address - at all on the entire site.
State that they offer basically 1/2 way housing and services for troubled youth etc...

Strange

I do not get it

K


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mig on January 12, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 10:24:13 PM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

YEAH TIM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 10:24:59 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::

So I suppose you want your monkeys all back before tomorrrow morning?   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 10:25:08 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.

Mya is a really pretty puppy!
Thank you very much.  I read that your puppy was a german shepherd.  Very cute too!
Also, thanks for recording GMA tomorrow too.  I'm not a good writer but if we all write them and the sponsers it might work.  I read from someone a few days ago that's what get the networks attention. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Cappuccino on January 12, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

This is all happy horse poop  "Permanently" gives it away that the family is removing the possibility for reason to exhume the remains in case any other evidence comes to light requiring it which will decrease possibilities of nailing this Casey as it will regardless of all they have done to obstruct it - this family is disgusting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
O/t

Hey Wyks,  Sorry to hear about your son.  I understand what you mean by respite.  My son just got out of the hospital a week ago, but he was there for 8 day and got great help.  We are now trying to get him in a group home.  Good luck, and your son and all mental health patients ae always in my prayers.

Thank you dottie!  Sounds like you may need some hugs and prayers as well.  *Sending hugs your way*, and will keep you and your son in my prayers. 

I tried to answer as many of the replies to me before the last thread closed, didn't make it in time.  My thanks to all of you tho! 


Hugs and prayers to both of you!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

YEAH TIM!
This is where you separate the Men from the Boys,      The good from the Evil...........The on with a pure heart from the Heartless.......................................Tim wants no part in this circus of evil money makers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
                                                         
                                                              GO TIM!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 12, 2009, 10:27:21 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 
Dennie - You've got some great info!  I have a bunch of info like this too!  It's amazing how you can connect the dots all over Orlando.  I had to take a few weeks off from all the info I was finding - it was making me crazy ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm ready to jump back in now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 10:28:23 PM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

YEAH TIM!

God Bless Tim!! I made this a while back for Tim and TES


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 12, 2009, 10:29:13 PM
::MonkeyDance:: Wykes thank U ((hugs))

Deenie - thanks for doing that research.   Pretty interesting!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:30:27 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.

I am wondering if its a picture of whatever it was that made them secure the Anthony's house so quickly after the discovery...like the children's book or something...just a thought because I also do not believe they would show remains of any kind.


link for this please? thx!


Anthony Family: Former P.I. Trying To Sell Video Of Caylee Site

Meanwhile, the Orange County utility worker who discovered Caylee's remains in December will be interviewed Tuesday by "Good Morning America" and is being paid as much as $20,000 for a picture he took of the wooded area, sources told Local 6 News.

David Evans, the attorney for Roy Kronk, confirmed to Local 6 News that there is a picture of the woods and it has been handed over to law enforcement.



http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18460959/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18463087/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 10:31:05 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


I've been lurking and waiting for you to post this video HH, let us see it!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:31:45 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 10:33:26 PM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

YEAH TIM!
This is where you separate the Men from the Boys,      The good from the Evil...........The on with a pure heart from the Heartless.......................................Tim wants no part in this circus of evil money makers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
                                                         
                                                              GO TIM!!!!!!!

HH~ you hit the nail on the head with that post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:33:30 PM
::MonkeyDance:: Wykes thank U ((hugs))

Deenie - thanks for doing that research.   Pretty interesting!   
I think so too - Thank You Sassy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 12, 2009, 10:33:45 PM
Wyks

What I do not understand is this website of Fred Robinson -
They offer all of these Services and even state they were granted to be a Tax exempt Non Profit and yet they offer no physical address - at all on the entire site.
State that they offer basically 1/2 way housing and services for troubled youth etc...

Strange

I do not get it

K

Hmmm..  If their housing and services are a shelter of sorts, that could be why there is no address listed.  Very often shelters don't list their address but give a phone #, and meet folks at a public place then bring them to the shelter.  Not sure what other reasons there might be for not listing the address. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 10:33:53 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::

So I suppose you want your monkeys all back before tomorrrow morning?   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm a man of my word..what my tag line say's...stands  ::MonkeyWink::

It was easier to razz you when you were a terrier  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:35:29 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:35:56 PM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.

I am wondering if its a picture of whatever it was that made them secure the Anthony's house so quickly after the discovery...like the children's book or something...just a thought because I also do not believe they would show remains of any kind.


link for this please? thx!


Anthony Family: Former P.I. Trying To Sell Video Of Caylee Site

Meanwhile, the Orange County utility worker who discovered Caylee's remains in December will be interviewed Tuesday by "Good Morning America" and is being paid as much as $20,000 for a picture he took of the wooded area, sources told Local 6 News.

David Evans, the attorney for Roy Kronk, confirmed to Local 6 News that there is a picture of the woods and it has been handed over to law enforcement.



http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18460959/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18463087/index.html



thx!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BluesyGram on January 12, 2009, 10:36:11 PM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::





Thanks for answering this ...was wondering why he had to do this...he only has a cell phone... makes sense now.  Do you think she would ONLY be able to call him..or could she have called someone else?  I don't think any more phone calls were released from the jail after they started visiting in person...were there?

Thanks, Bev


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:37:24 PM


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thx!
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Sure thing.  Sorry it took me forever - i am slow at this stuff!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


I've been lurking and waiting for you to post this video HH, let us see it!

Karen

Hey....go back to page 5 and just follow the same instruction I gave CBB...........you can see it too!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 10:39:50 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


HH, is your daughter going to be on this season of AI?
No.....this one coming up was actually taped back in october,     She goes to Disney World in April to try out!!
Oh I hope she makes it. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:42:39 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 
Dennie - You've got some great info!  I have a bunch of info like this too!  It's amazing how you can connect the dots all over Orlando.  I had to take a few weeks off from all the info I was finding - it was making me crazy ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm ready to jump back in now.
Yay KCJackie ... I know what you mean about having to take time off ... because it Does start effecting your every day moods, every day doings, because Why? This is Insanity all of it ..and Your right, your so right ..it is connecting the Dots and it seems its a never ever ending twist ..that keeps going .. " I am shaking my Head" as I type. As I read more information and hear what is happening from the Ant side ... It is so much bigger than Casey's lies from the very beginning. I feel in my GUT that many people are involved or have had info all this time - and It was to be a Money Chance and it was poorly constructed...  and some how some way ..it will all come out. The most heinous of all is that Caylee's life ended. In my gut though that in the end more than just Casey will be prosecuted. In my gut that's what I feel. It may not be this year ... But Caylee's Justice will prevail ..at one point. I seriously think ~ Yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 12, 2009, 10:42:54 PM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



Thanks for answering that question. I started out 40 pages behind, and have been speed reading, but looking for the answer.  Sorry you had to find out the way you did!!  $12K?  Man that is some serious traffic problems.

For those of you who didn't ask, my new avi is of my baby Mijo, seeing a kitty for the first time. She had curled up in a chair on the front porch. I normally use it for a planter, but I guess since the flowers are gone, she decided to curl up there and hide out.  He literally stood on his back feet like that long enough for me to run in the house, get the camera, and snap the photo!!!   No more O/T tonight, promise.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:43:54 PM
This one and only time I am going to sort of agree with the Anthony's - or Conway I should say.  People are sicko and I would not put it past someone to dig up Caylee's remains if she were to be buried.

As long as it is done respectfully, I think cremating her would be in the best interest of everyone.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 10:44:57 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

I found it!  She's beautiful and very talented!  Thanks for sharing!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


HH, is your daughter going to be on this season of AI?
No.....this one coming up was actually taped back in october,     She goes to Disney World in April to try out!!
Oh I hope she makes it. ::MonkeyDance::
Me Too........although I dont want her doing anything that will keep her from having a normal life, not right now anyway.....Im a very careful Mother and I dont want her gone from me !!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 10:46:37 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


HH, is your daughter going to be on this season of AI?
No.....this one coming up was actually taped back in october,     She goes to Disney World in April to try out!!
Oh I hope she makes it. ::MonkeyDance::
Sorry O/T but I love AM.  You will have to let us know if she makes it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 10:47:15 PM
uh oh,.. channel surf alert... hubby has greta on again..
about DREW PETERSON...*gag*...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
'Nite Monkeys.Gotta take my meicated self to the bunky. I sure somebody has COFFEE in the morning.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night Trimm....

Gettin' the Coffee Machine set up already  ::MonkeyWink::

So I suppose you want your monkeys all back before tomorrrow morning?   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm a man of my word..what my tag line say's...stands  ::MonkeyWink::

It was easier to razz you when you were a terrier  ::MonkeyTongue::

You can have my terrier and I will keep your monkeys!  Ha ha!!  Oh man, my terrier (Rudy) is a pistol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:47:54 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

I found it!  She's beautiful and very talented!  Thanks for sharing!

Karen
Your welcome.....my son was in the contest and his video is there also,   but Sierra beat him  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........
HH did you see the NG show last week when she was talking to the Man via phone about the freaks out there that Pay top dollar for Murder-bilia. That there are People who Paid MONEY for dirt from that Freak's hell hole who killed all those boys and buried them ..Gacy the Clown .clown painter..
At this point nothing will surprise me at all from the Ants


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 12, 2009, 10:49:20 PM
I found a new good source of info on YouTube. This person covers pretty much everything related to the case including JVM, NG, PI interviews, Luka interviews, etc.
You might have to hover with the mouse to find the the correct order of the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=veilanna&view=videos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 12, 2009, 10:49:20 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH, she is beautiful, and a great singer, but are you aware this video gives her first and last name, and city and state you live in??  Just worry about these young girls. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: DayOldDonuts on January 12, 2009, 10:49:29 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!
I just heard that. ::MonkeyEek::

I missed this...so is it verified that he was using a DNA probe? Or were they just saying IF he was using a DNA probe.  Or is it some other type of probe altogether?   TIA!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 12, 2009, 10:49:53 PM
Holy Crap .......... I almost fell out of the last CAGE ......lol

My findings Monkeys

Regarding - Lake Mary Jane and then some

I have been thinking about and looked into the House addresses with the Name Connections

So I was digging
Snipped from Wendi
Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 Hopespring Dr.

Fred Robinson Married to Barbara Robinson - who are from Ohio
Their current home address is 4906 Hopespring Drive Orlando

This is their Website
http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

The Religious Neighbors mentioned via Lee to Casey

For the life of me I can't find a actual location of this Ministry - just a P.O. Box
Does it exist in the House on Hopespring Drive?

They owned a Home separate of their Residence -and sold it 7/2008
I have the address and it is 14515 Story's Ford Road which is less than One minute from Lake Mary Jane Road which is where Annie Downing lives. If I am wrong about Annie I got it from the net - http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
Annies Address of 12221 Lake Mary Jane Rd, Orlando, FL 32832
Map it against -Fred and Barbara's House sold July 2008- 14515 Story's Ford Road Orlando Florida 32832 its walking distance. And it seems that LE as well if you chase Lake Mary Jane as well searched all of its areas surrounding for Caylee. I typed in Google Lake Mary Jane Orlando Caylee Anthony and a ton of stuff popped up in relation to LE searches.

4701 Hopespring Drive Was owned by Peter Gonzalez and Fredesvinda Lebron - now Divorced as of recent. Found documents of Foreclosure on this house yet, from what I see the house is still within ownership of Fredesvinda Gonzalez .. that the foreclosure paper's were rectified and removed.

This is for Monkey Knowledge and I offer puzzle pieces
I am sorry if sometimes I type backwards I have semi- pre-menopause mixed with a bit of dyslexia ..and in the middle of renovating my house  :gaah:
All my findings are from http://or.occompt.com

That took a long time to find all of this - and all I care is that it bring Progress ~ For Caylee.

K

Deenie, thanks for finding these puzzle pieces, it all helps!  Must have taken quite a bit of time digging for all this, thanks again! 
 

Wow, Deenie, good investigating...I wanna check out all your links but i'm trying to catch up AGAIN and then off to bed...Good job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 12, 2009, 10:50:04 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

I found it!  She's beautiful and very talented!  Thanks for sharing!

Karen
You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:51:10 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.




I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........
HH did you see the NG show last week when she was talking to the Man via phone about the freaks out there that Pay top dollar for Murder-bilia. That there are People who Paid MONEY for dirt from that Freak's hell hole who killed all those boys and buried them ..Gacy the Clown .clown painter..
At this point nothing will surprise me at all from the Ants
Yea I saw it and that is were I got what I said from,   it makes me sick, but it is a possibility!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2009, 10:52:21 PM
HH....Your daughter is so pretty and has a beautiful voice, I also like the fact she is so confident. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:53:19 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH, she is beautiful, and a great singer, but are you aware this video gives her first and last name, and city and state you live in??  Just worry about these young girls. 
Thank You so much and yes,  I know about the info,  but I you have to be a member to be able to view these videos most of the time,,, I just unblocked it for the Monkeys tonight and will block it back up after a while......but thank you for your concern!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 12, 2009, 10:53:29 PM
I found a new good source of info on YouTube. This person covers pretty much everything related to the case including JVM, NG, PI interviews, Luka interviews, etc.
You might have to hover with the mouse to find the the correct order of the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=veilanna&view=videos


Thanks for the info and the link.  That's good to have in my favorites!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 12, 2009, 10:53:59 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 
Dennie - You've got some great info!  I have a bunch of info like this too!  It's amazing how you can connect the dots all over Orlando.  I had to take a few weeks off from all the info I was finding - it was making me crazy ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm ready to jump back in now.

KCJackie, I have a couple of ideas for your maps, something I saw from watching the first 48, when they did the case of the serial murderer her in KC, Terry Blair. Are you available sometime?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
HH....Your daughter is so pretty and has a beautiful voice, I also like the fact she is so confident. ::MonkeyCool::
Thank You,  I just wish I had the video from Saturday night when she done the tribute for Caylee,  That was beautiful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 12, 2009, 10:54:33 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!

 :smt045 :smt045

BOOK EM...haul him to jail.  Enough is enough.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
HH....Your daughter is so pretty and has a beautiful voice, I also like the fact she is so confident. ::MonkeyCool::

HH - your daughter is very talented!  Not to mention that I love that song.

I'd like to use a little gunpowder and lead on Ms. Anthony  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 12, 2009, 10:56:57 PM
Holy Crap .......... I almost fell out of the last CAGE ......lol

My findings Monkeys

Regarding - Lake Mary Jane and then some

I have been thinking about and looked into the House addresses with the Name Connections

So I was digging
Snipped from Wendi
Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 Hopespring Dr.

Fred Robinson Married to Barbara Robinson - who are from Ohio
Their current home address is 4906 Hopespring Drive Orlando

This is their Website
http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

The Religious Neighbors mentioned via Lee to Casey

For the life of me I can't find a actual location of this Ministry - just a P.O. Box
Does it exist in the House on Hopespring Drive?

They owned a Home separate of their Residence -and sold it 7/2008
I have the address and it is 14515 Story's Ford Road which is less than One minute from Lake Mary Jane Road which is where Annie Downing lives. If I am wrong about Annie I got it from the net - http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
Annies Address of 12221 Lake Mary Jane Rd, Orlando, FL 32832
Map it against -Fred and Barbara's House sold July 2008- 14515 Story's Ford Road Orlando Florida 32832 its walking distance. And it seems that LE as well if you chase Lake Mary Jane as well searched all of its areas surrounding for Caylee. I typed in Google Lake Mary Jane Orlando Caylee Anthony and a ton of stuff popped up in relation to LE searches.

4701 Hopespring Drive Was owned by Peter Gonzalez and Fredesvinda Lebron - now Divorced as of recent. Found documents of Foreclosure on this house yet, from what I see the house is still within ownership of Fredesvinda Gonzalez .. that the foreclosure paper's were rectified and removed.

This is for Monkey Knowledge and I offer puzzle pieces
I am sorry if sometimes I type backwards I have semi- pre-menopause mixed with a bit of dyslexia ..and in the middle of renovating my house  :gaah:
All my findings are from http://or.occompt.com

That took a long time to find all of this - and all I care is that it bring Progress ~ For Caylee.

K

there are sure alot of people connected to KC from Oh. Fred & his wife Barbara Robinson, moved from cleveland, Oh, to Orlando, Fl in 1982.

wendi







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 12, 2009, 10:57:40 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Yeah, they said that like over a month ago too...She's still in a box.  (that was hard to type.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 12, 2009, 10:58:05 PM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::





Thanks for answering this ...was wondering why he had to do this...he only has a cell phone... makes sense now.  Do you think she would ONLY be able to call him..or could she have called someone else?  I don't think any more phone calls were released from the jail after they started visiting in person...were there?

Thanks, Bev


The credit card you use has to link up to the number you have for contact, so if she wanted to call CA or GA or HOme they would have to do the same thing for her and have a specific amount for phone calls.  Then whe it runs out, you reload it.  I don't think there were anymore after they started visiting in person either.  BTW, they give them a certain amount, like 2 or 3 phone calls the first couple of days to notify someone of where they are at, so that is why she was able to call GA & CA that first day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:00:14 PM
HH....Your daughter is so pretty and has a beautiful voice, I also like the fact she is so confident. ::MonkeyCool::

HH - your daughter is very talented!  Not to mention that I love that song.

I'd like to use a little gunpowder and lead on Ms. Anthony  ::MonkeyWink::
Thank You,   yea we could show them what Monkeys are made of... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 12, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH, she is beautiful, and a great singer, but are you aware this video gives her first and last name, and city and state you live in??  Just worry about these young girls. 
Thank You so much and yes,  I know about the info,  but I you have to be a member to be able to view these videos most of the time,,, I just unblocked it for the Monkeys tonight and will block it back up after a while......but thank you for your concern!!!!!!!!!

WOW HH, You have a VERY VERY talented young lady there!  Congrats!  You must surely be a proud mommy!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 12, 2009, 11:02:04 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

I found it!  She's beautiful and very talented!  Thanks for sharing!

Karen
You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

hi, Higherhopes, just wondering, my neighbor's daughter was in the colgate show, i don't think this year, she is too old. (pretty sure) Chelsea Chandler? she was also on daddy's spoiled little rich girl? that tv show on WE. just wondering & (no they wouldn't mind me saying her name) and your daghter does have a beautifule voice!!!!

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 12, 2009, 11:02:39 PM
nite yall... got 24 on... then after i have BACHELOR tivo'd....
i know.. sick.. but still..its a kid from the pacific northwest... so...

okay...no excuse.. sorry..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 12, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:03:04 PM
I found a new good source of info on YouTube. This person covers pretty much everything related to the case including JVM, NG, PI interviews, Luka interviews, etc.
You might have to hover with the mouse to find the the correct order of the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=veilanna&view=videos


Thanks Scatty...I do miss Carpe, he use to post all the vids too...don't know where he went to but I sure miss him  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 12, 2009, 11:04:30 PM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.

OK OK...ALL YOU DOGGIE PEOPLE....I WANNA TALK ABOUT DOGGIES TOO  (boo hoo).  I have one but he just mooches and naps!  So, I can talk about my duckie in my avi named Douglas....deal?  ok, deal!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I love him very much too...he waddles and loves rain and worms!!!!  lmao  ok, i feel better now!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

TAKE IT TO MUSING PLEASE!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4248.280


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 11:04:34 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Yeah, they said that like over a month ago too...She's still in a box.  (that was hard to type.)
I just can't imagine how the great grandparents of this baby are dealing with all of this.  Still no service for thier precious Caylee.  Especially Shirley and Alex since they were one of the last ones to see her alive.  Not to mention any other family members out there that loved this baby too.  But, the A's never had any respect for their  2 year old granddaughter so I doubt they have any respect for their elderly parents either. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 12, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH - your daughter is really cute and talented.  Thanks for sharing the video with us.   I think might make it BIG one day!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 12, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 
Dennie - You've got some great info!  I have a bunch of info like this too!  It's amazing how you can connect the dots all over Orlando.  I had to take a few weeks off from all the info I was finding - it was making me crazy ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm ready to jump back in now.
Yay KCJackie ... I know what you mean about having to take time off ... because it Does start effecting your every day moods, every day doings, because Why? This is Insanity all of it ..and Your right, your so right ..it is connecting the Dots and it seems its a never ever ending twist ..that keeps going .. " I am shaking my Head" as I type. As I read more information and hear what is happening from the Ant side ... It is so much bigger than Casey's lies from the very beginning. I feel in my GUT that many people are involved or have had info all this time - and It was to be a Money Chance and it was poorly constructed...  and some how some way ..it will all come out. The most heinous of all is that Caylee's life ended. In my gut though that in the end more than just Casey will be prosecuted. In my gut that's what I feel. It may not be this year ... But Caylee's Justice will prevail ..at one point. I seriously think ~ Yes.

Good post KCJackie.  ITA...you gotta take time off because it does and will affect you personally.  It's a very sad story and I hope you are right about justice.  I am not truly convinced that ALL those that deserve to be charged, will be.  I hope I am wrong. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:10:05 PM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 12, 2009, 11:10:56 PM
My father in law was murdered in NC, and we had him cremated, but buried his ashes in the Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:13:18 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.

Yes...I remember LP saying that it was 200 yards up the road..I'm sure he was ball parking it but that's a heck of a lot more than 12 feet...I wish I had seen who made that estimate on NG tonight..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 12, 2009, 11:13:37 PM

Thank You so much and yes,  I know about the info,  but I you have to be a member to be able to view these videos most of the time,,, I just unblocked it for the Monkeys tonight and will block it back up after a while......but thank you for your concern!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]

No problem, I just thought since it had been out there for awhile you might not have heard the intro for awhile. Should have known you are a tiger monkey mom!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:14:37 PM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments about my Daughter,  I truly appreciate it........................
 Wendy I think I do remember Chelsea, my daughter has been in these contests for the past 7 years and if Im thinking of the right one, she was very good!!!!!!


      OK   Now,  Does anybody remember the name of the School that the remains was found by, for some reason I cant remember it......................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 12, 2009, 11:16:41 PM
 ::MonkeyCool:: Nght Monkeys~I HAVE got to start going to bed on time because getting 3yrs sleep isn't cutting it, especially when I have to get up at 5:30  ::MonkeyWaa:: but I can't help it, I'm a monkey addict....

HH~your daughter is beautiful, talented and obviously has a great heart, pls let us see her Concrete Angel video when available,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 11:17:11 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.

Yes...I remember LP saying that it was 200 yards up the road..I'm sure he was ball parking it but that's a heck of a lot more than 12 feet...I wish I had seen who made that estimate on NG tonight..

Watch this video, it shows exactly where Dominic Casey claims he was searching:

http://www.youtube.com/v/gZRTi3AVEaU&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 12, 2009, 11:17:38 PM
sorry monkeys, been away from the computer most of the day & prob. will never catch up? did anyone ever find out for sure if LA worked for Gameday Management-Click & Park. sorry if this has already been answered. tia.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 11:17:56 PM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments about my Daughter,  I truly appreciate it........................
 Wendy I think I do remember Chelsea, my daughter has been in these contests for the past 7 years and if Im thinking of the right one, she was very good!!!!!!


      OK   Now,  Does anybody remember the name of the School that the remains was found by, for some reason I cant remember it......................

Hidden Oaks Elementary


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:17:58 PM

Thank You so much and yes,  I know about the info,  but I you have to be a member to be able to view these videos most of the time,,, I just unblocked it for the Monkeys tonight and will block it back up after a while......but thank you for your concern!!!!!!!!!

No problem, I just thought since it had been out there for awhile you might not have heard the intro for awhile. Should have known you are a tiger monkey mom!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
[/quote]Yes....one of the worse, and my kids complain about it all the time, but they are safe and thats all I care about.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 12, 2009, 11:19:30 PM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments about my Daughter,  I truly appreciate it........................
 Wendy I think I do remember Chelsea, my daughter has been in these contests for the past 7 years and if Im thinking of the right one, she was very good!!!!!!


      OK   Now,  Does anybody remember the name of the School that the remains was found by, for some reason I cant remember it......................

your welcome! Hidden Oaks Elementary. iirc.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 12, 2009, 11:19:55 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH - your daughter is really cute and talented.  Thanks for sharing the video with us.   I think might make it BIG one day!!
Oh HH, I know you are incrediably proud.  What a beautiful  young lady and she is so confident and at ease preforming....that's half the battle.  She has great range for only 14....she'll go far!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 12, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
O/t

Hey Wyks,  Sorry to hear about your son.  I understand what you mean by respite.  My son just got out of the hospital a week ago, but he was there for 8 day and got great help.  We are now trying to get him in a group home.  Good luck, and your son and all mental health patients ae always in my prayers.

Thank you dottie!  Sounds like you may need some hugs and prayers as well.  *Sending hugs your way*, and will keep you and your son in my prayers. 

I tried to answer as many of the replies to me before the last thread closed, didn't make it in time.  My thanks to all of you tho! 


Hugs and prayers to both of you!

Karen
Thanks, Karen   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:24:28 PM

Watch this video, it shows exactly where Dominic Casey claims he was searching:



Thanks Klaas...did you post this before ?? I've been chasing my tail trying to catch up and must have missed it.....so Lenny wasn't too far off..a lot more acurate than the 12 feet I heard earlier on NG...
I may be mistaken with LP he might have said 200 feet...not sure but he stuttered when he said it so I assumed he was just ball parking it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 11:24:41 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

My Rant ~  :shock:
Probably wont be my last ........ I love My Monkeys
Thank you for listening Rawr
K
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:28:36 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

My Rant ~  :shock:
Probably wont be my last ........ I love My Monkeys
Thank you for listening Rawr
K
 

BRAVO..................atttention is what Casey thrived on, and I believe she used the pictures of her and Caylee to get it, but then if caylee got too much attention she didnt like that either,  Poor Caylee was doomed fron the beginning!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 11:29:50 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

My Rant ~  :shock:
Probably wont be my last ........ I love My Monkeys
Thank you for listening Rawr
K
 


I was trying to think if you missed anything but nope you summed it all up and I couldn't agree more!  Especially with this statement "Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:31:34 PM
SS..the Elvis at the bottom of your page just crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am a big Elvis fan too!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 12, 2009, 11:34:33 PM
Holy Crap .......... I almost fell out of the last CAGE ......lol

My findings Monkeys

Regarding - Lake Mary Jane and then some

I have been thinking about and looked into the House addresses with the Name Connections

So I was digging
Snipped from Wendi
Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 Hopespring Dr.

Fred Robinson Married to Barbara Robinson - who are from Ohio
Their current home address is 4906 Hopespring Drive Orlando

This is their Website
http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

The Religious Neighbors mentioned via Lee to Casey

For the life of me I can't find a actual location of this Ministry - just a P.O. Box
Does it exist in the House on Hopespring Drive?

They owned a Home separate of their Residence -and sold it 7/2008
I have the address and it is 14515 Story's Ford Road which is less than One minute from Lake Mary Jane Road which is where Annie Downing lives. If I am wrong about Annie I got it from the net - http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
Annies Address of 12221 Lake Mary Jane Rd, Orlando, FL 32832
Map it against -Fred and Barbara's House sold July 2008- 14515 Story's Ford Road Orlando Florida 32832 its walking distance. And it seems that LE as well if you chase Lake Mary Jane as well searched all of its areas surrounding for Caylee. I typed in Google Lake Mary Jane Orlando Caylee Anthony and a ton of stuff popped up in relation to LE searches.

4701 Hopespring Drive Was owned by Peter Gonzalez and Fredesvinda Lebron - now Divorced as of recent. Found documents of Foreclosure on this house yet, from what I see the house is still within ownership of Fredesvinda Gonzalez .. that the foreclosure paper's were rectified and removed.

This is for Monkey Knowledge and I offer puzzle pieces
I am sorry if sometimes I type backwards I have semi- pre-menopause mixed with a bit of dyslexia ..and in the middle of renovating my house  :gaah:
All my findings are from http://or.occompt.com

That took a long time to find all of this - and all I care is that it bring Progress ~ For Caylee.

K

Deenie, thanks for finding these puzzle pieces, it all helps!  Must have taken quite a bit of time digging for all this, thanks again! 
 

Wow!  Excellent work.  I am really curious to see LE's interview with Annie Downing.  There is something really suspicious about the fact that her interview has yet to be released.  I can't wait to read it. 

When you first asked about Mary Jane Lake, I immediately thought of Lake Vaj.  Is that anywhere near Mary Jane Lake? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 12, 2009, 11:38:05 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 12, 2009, 11:39:19 PM
Pixiecat - I think everyone dosed off on us  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I am not sure the answer to your question about the lakes but when the Map Queen aka Klaas returns I bet she will know.

I off to bed myself.  Have a great night Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 11:39:24 PM
Welcome PixieCat .......... I needed to say that First  :smt049

I thought of the same thing too  - and I need Monkey help with that - I don't have the location on hand of Lake Vaj


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 12, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........
HH did you see the NG show last week when she was talking to the Man via phone about the freaks out there that Pay top dollar for Murder-bilia. That there are People who Paid MONEY for dirt from that Freak's hell hole who killed all those boys and buried them ..Gacy the Clown .clown painter..
At this point nothing will surprise me at all from the Ants


Yes!  When I first heard about that uhm, group of "people" who collect such things, I nearly fell out of my chair.  SICK, SICK, SICK.  I am so afraid that photos of poor little Caylee's body will be sold.  It just breaks my heart to think of all of the people who have done nothing but disrespect and use this sweet, innocent child for their personal gain.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 12, 2009, 11:40:18 PM
Deenie, why would you "grimace" at the sight of a shamrock?  Surely the thinking person you are is aware that much of this case is smoke and mirrors.  Using a shamrock shape as a marker (which is merely speculation) to Caylee's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th (or however many  ::MonkeyConfused::) resting places shouldn't affect anyone.  The alleged perp had no more religion (let alone ties to the symbolic Irish shamrock) than I do to Grrrraldo Rivera and his "religious" and cultural forebears.









Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:43:47 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 
my thoughts exactly...................if they were grieving they would show respect and already have that poor baby a nice place to rest not just sitting there while she is laying in some cardboard box somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They make me sick!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:44:48 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.  
 <<<SNIPPED FOR SPACE>>>


Hi Deenie !  ::MonkeyDance::

Nice post..you're right, the media and all off the "players" have turned this into a circus and IMO have actually taken the spotlight off of the tragic death of Caylee, turning this into a soap opera basically.... I get the same reaction from anyone I try to talk about it too...
I usually get a " oh that poor little girl, do you really think the mother is guilty? "  ::MonkeyConfused:: and the other " oh those poor grandparents" ((barf)) and others along that line...
Obviously they haven't been following the story... i was amazed when I talked with by bud, who lives in Ocala, that he's barely even heard of the story..  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know I make a lot of jokes here but if I have anything serious to add...I really do mean it.. my way of dealing with stress is to make jokes and I understand that annoys some, but I like to think it lightens some heavy feelings as well with some monkeys..

rant over


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 11:47:59 PM
Deenie, why would you "grimace" at the sight of a shamrock?  Surely the thinking person you are is aware that much of this case is smoke and mirrors.  Using a shamrock shape as a marker (which is merely speculation) to Caylee's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th (or however many  ::MonkeyConfused::) resting places shouldn't affect anyone.  The alleged perp had no more religion (let alone ties to the symbolic Irish shamrock) than I do to Grrrraldo Rivera and his "religious" and cultural forebears.
Foggy if you do not know and I am not being " back at you" by any means
Shamrocks are Casey's favorite of many things. She has a Tat of one on her backside, she has a decal on her back window of her car above her Trunk, jewelry and even has put Caylee in photo's wearing and adult size Shamrock Tshirt with things stuffed inside to make her appear to have breasts ...that's why I say I will forever Grimace at Shamrocks ...

Thats why I said what I said -  ::MonkeyNoNo::






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 12, 2009, 11:49:11 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Kat_Gram, your kitty photo is adorable! 

You do raise an excellent point about the possibility of people disrespecting Caylee's remains.  After hearing about the idiots that purchased dirt from Gacy's basement, I realize that anything is possible.  You and I, and all the other Monkeys would feel the same about wanting to protect Caylee's remains.  The only problem is that, based on everything we have seen, the Anthony's just don't seem to have it in their power to something that isn't 100% selfish.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 11:50:41 PM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

I found it!  She's beautiful and very talented!  Thanks for sharing!

Karen
You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

Thank you, as are you!  A friend took that picture of me this morning.  Continued prayers for your dad, A-1, remember you are not alone as all of us monkeys are so fond of you!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 12, 2009, 11:51:45 PM
HELP!  Can someone explain to me (aka techie simpleton  ::MonkeyConfused::) how to reply to an individual poster?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 12, 2009, 11:52:27 PM
Mary Jane Lake - Sorry if this has already been answered.  Annie Downing Lives on this street.
KCJackie read my post on page 2 of this new cage - Thank You and tell me what you think 
Dennie - You've got some great info!  I have a bunch of info like this too!  It's amazing how you can connect the dots all over Orlando.  I had to take a few weeks off from all the info I was finding - it was making me crazy ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm ready to jump back in now.

KCJackie, I have a couple of ideas for your maps, something I saw from watching the first 48, when they did the case of the serial murderer her in KC, Terry Blair. Are you available sometime?
Sure.  Would love to hear from you!  Open to any ideas. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 11:52:58 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.  
 <<<SNIPPED FOR SPACE>>>


Hi Deenie !  ::MonkeyDance::

Nice post..you're right, the media and all off the "players" have turned this into a circus and IMO have actually taken the spotlight off of the tragic death of Caylee, turning this into a soap opera basically.... I get the same reaction from anyone I try to talk about it too...
I usually get a " oh that poor little girl, do you really think the mother is guilty? "  ::MonkeyConfused:: and the other " oh those poor grandparents" ((barf)) and others along that line...
Obviously they haven't been following the story... i was amazed when I talked with by bud, who lives in Ocala, that he's barely even heard of the story..  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know I make a lot of jokes here but if I have anything serious to add...I really do mean it.. my way of dealing with stress is to make jokes and I understand that annoys some, but I like to think it lightens some heavy feelings as well with some monkeys..

rant over

SS you are my Brother and I can say this - We Need Your Comedy Relief and We know that You are one with the Biggest Heart .. No need to explain why you offer what you do .. Just Please never stop, k. I really appreciate your response - (((Huge Double Shot of Espresso for You))) Your Better than Elvis " Your Alive" ...  :king:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:53:12 PM
SS..the Elvis at the bottom of your page just crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am a big Elvis fan too!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me started...I'm in enough trouble already  ::MonkeyWink::
The mods were very kind to cut me some slack on Jan 8th to express my love for the King. Hopefully I can do the same in August  ::MonkeyCool::
Monken and I have been exchanging posts in musings if you're interested..feel free to add yoour thoughts..

your daughter has a terrific voice..I hope she does well in the future !

oh...CBB posted these gif's...I love em.... uh huh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 11:53:51 PM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 12, 2009, 11:54:41 PM
Deenie, I totally understand why you see shamrocks in a negative light.  I too, have begun to associate the image with this case.  Seeing the photo of Caylee with the shamrock shirt really creeped me out. I thought that is was so strange that someone would stuff her shirt like they did.  They were trying to sexualize her, which is really frightening.   

 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 12, 2009, 11:54:46 PM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 12, 2009, 11:55:54 PM
SS I am making You a Peanut Buttah Nanna Sammich .. :smt049 :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 12, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
SS..the Elvis at the bottom of your page just crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am a big Elvis fan too!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me started...I'm in enough trouble already  ::MonkeyWink::
The mods were very kind to cut me some slack on Jan 8th to express my love for the King. Hopefully I can do the same in August  ::MonkeyCool::
Monken and I have been exchanging posts in musings if you're interested..feel free to add yoour thoughts..

your daughter has a terrific voice..I hope she does well in the future !

oh...CBB posted these gif's...I love em.... uh huh
Thanks,  and I will check out musings.......and I am kinda in the same boat as you are,( my daughters video) but the Mods have been very kind about it also, and now Im off to check out musings....lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 12, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
HELP!  Can someone explain to me (aka techie simpleton  ::MonkeyConfused::) how to reply to an individual poster?

Foggy - if you look at the post you want to QUOTE or replay directly too in the upper right hand of the post is a button that looks like this (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/quote.jpg) and if you click on it you'll open to a screen with the quote already in it.  Then all you have to do is type below the quote.  That is what I just did to quote and reply to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 12, 2009, 11:58:04 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

My Rant ~  :shock:
Probably wont be my last ........ I love My Monkeys
Thank you for listening Rawr
K
 

I know what you mean.  My sister and daughter are the only ones I can talk to about this case.  The rest of family thinks I've lost my mind so I don't even talk about it anymore with them.  I'm online or watching NG all the time.  My son said something to me the other day and when trying to explain that we loved Caylee more than her own family did I couldn't talk I just cried.  He is 24 and he just looked at me like WTH. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 12, 2009, 11:59:08 PM

SS you are my Brother and I can say this - We Need Your Comedy Relief and We know that You are one with the Biggest Heart .. No need to explain why you offer what you do .. Just Please never stop, k. I really appreciate your response - (((Huge Double Shot of Espresso for You))) Your Better than Elvis " Your Alive" ...  :king:

((Blushing Monkey)) Thanks Deenie...and you've got a heart of gold (and a lot of patience)
I've missed you in your recent absence...so happy you're back  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 12:01:09 AM
Good nite everyone.  Bearly I really miss you.  Dolce, I am really proud to say you are my friend for the work you and your family are doing to find that little boy - in my prayers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 12:01:24 AM
Deenie, I totally understand why you see shamrocks in a negative light.  I too, have begun to associate the image with this case.  Seeing the photo of Caylee with the shamrock shirt really creeped me out. I thought that is was so strange that someone would stuff her shirt like they did.  They were trying to sexualize her, which is really frightening.   

 ::MonkeyWaa::

That photo of Caylee so bothers me too -
My daughter when she was um 13, 14  - her and her friend put Balloons in their sweatpants for their BUMS and that was FUNNY .. and cute. Putting things in your 2yr old Baby's shirt that resemble breasts and having her squeeze them as if they were Sexual - that is incredibly distasteful and shows you have no boundaries as a Mom.
Huge Ah and Uggh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:03:53 AM
O/t

Hey Wyks,  Sorry to hear about your son.  I understand what you mean by respite.  My son just got out of the hospital a week ago, but he was there for 8 day and got great help.  We are now trying to get him in a group home.  Good luck, and your son and all mental health patients ae always in my prayers.

Thank you dottie!  Sounds like you may need some hugs and prayers as well.  *Sending hugs your way*, and will keep you and your son in my prayers. 

I tried to answer as many of the replies to me before the last thread closed, didn't make it in time.  My thanks to all of you tho! 


This is for Wyks -- in the prayer request section.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=147.msg624271#msg624271 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=147.msg624271#msg624271)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: callie4u on January 13, 2009, 12:04:24 AM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments about my Daughter,  I truly appreciate it........................
 Wendy I think I do remember Chelsea, my daughter has been in these contests for the past 7 years and if Im thinking of the right one, she was very good!!!!!!


      OK   Now,  Does anybody remember the name of the School that the remains was found by, for some reason I cant remember it......................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: callie4u on January 13, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
i believe it is HIDDEN OAKS ELEM.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 13, 2009, 12:06:23 AM
I started looking for the location of Lake Vaj in the interview, but I couldn't find anything.  Sean Daly called it the "big pond" during his interview on the Websleuths forum. 

Does anyone know if Annie Downing is still living with Dante Salate? 

My tylenol pm is kicking in.  I will call it a night. 

Thank you to everyone!  I have been welcomed with open arms!  It is great to be a part of this lovely group ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 12:07:32 AM
Nite Pixie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pixiecat on January 13, 2009, 12:10:43 AM
Nite Pixie

Good night, Klaasend and all the Monkeys!  Sweet dreams to everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:14:28 AM
Deenie, why would you "grimace" at the sight of a shamrock?  Surely the thinking person you are is aware that much of this case is smoke and mirrors.  Using a shamrock shape as a marker (which is merely speculation) to Caylee's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th (or however many  ::MonkeyConfused::) resting places shouldn't affect anyone.  The alleged perp had no more religion (let alone ties to the symbolic Irish shamrock) than I do to Grrrraldo Rivera and his "religious" and cultural forebears.

Welcome to the cage Foggy Dew !!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: (I think I missed you)

I'm amazed this guy still has an audience...his reporting, not just this case, is always the worst kind of tabloid dribble I've ever seen...I have no idea why the networks keep him on unless the public enjoys dribble.. I gave up on him after the vault...but I really grew to despise him in Iraq for putting our troups at risk..they should lock him up in Gitmo... JMO










Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 12:15:38 AM
KC Jackie you have nanners.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 12:15:49 AM
Grandma2Maddie

It is crazy that Our Hearts cannot Love or be founded - when we attempt to converse about Caylee.
I think that the Majority of Society has been so desensitized by Movies and even the Local News...that when we witness something tragic and or horrifying its to be Blinked away. And should never be reflected upon again - within a millisecond its forgotten.

I will mention this as a Prime example of Why we need to pay attention to our Local News and or media. Even when its shocking and or a What happened moment...
In 2003, I was off on vacation and I had on my local morning news TV. I watched a story on a Woman who lived more than 40 miles away from me that had her residence broken into and she was assaulted. I remember I was vacuuming and I turned off the vacuum reading the headline as I was cleaning.
I listened and I felt for her immensely due to what they disclosed on this news report. Which is never the real story for reasons of LE and otherwise. I paid attention though and I thought that poor woman ... My God
Well 5 days later the Same POS that broke into her House - Entered Mine.
If I never would have paid attention to that NEWS  - I would never have had anyone to contact outside of my local LE - which my local LE did not want to investigate because at the time I lived in a city that NO one ever ever get's broken into ..we cannot excite the perfect community ... and make them feel they have to worry ..
It all goes without saying - People need to start caring and paying attention

And God Forbid that One of OUR children were ever to be Missing - you know what I am saying.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:18:35 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Hi, it wasn't really a large, named lake.  Just an area of water around which a residential development had been built.

Here are a couple of maps, showing the "Lake Vaj" home of Iassen Donov.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:19:25 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 12:20:21 AM
Grandma2Maddie

It is crazy that Our Hearts cannot Love or be founded - when we attempt to converse about Caylee.
I think that the Majority of Society has been so desensitized by Movies and even the Local News...that when we witness something tragic and or horrifying its to be Blinked away. And should never be reflected upon again - within a millisecond its forgotten.

I will mention this as a Prime example of Why we need to pay attention to our Local News and or media. Even when its shocking and or a What happened moment...
In 2003, I was off on vacation and I had on my local morning news TV. I watched a story on a Woman who lived more than 40 miles away from me that had her residence broken into and she was assaulted. I remember I was vacuuming and I turned off the vacuum reading the headline as I was cleaning.
I listened and I felt for her immensely due to what they disclosed on this news report. Which is never the real story for reasons of LE and otherwise. I paid attention though and I thought that poor woman ... My God
Well 5 days later the Same POS that broke into her House - Entered Mine.
If I never would have paid attention to that NEWS  - I would never have had anyone to contact outside of my local LE - which my local LE did not want to investigate because at the time I lived in a city that NO one ever ever get's broken into ..we cannot excite the perfect community ... and make them feel they have to worry ..
It all goes without saying - People need to start caring and paying attention

And God Forbid that One of OUR children were ever to be Missing - you know what I am saying.






Goodness, Im glad you didnt get hurt, and your right ....we do need to pay  closer attention to whats going on around us!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 12:23:18 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::


SS...on that same site that you went to to view my daughters video, there is a Elvis Impersonator and he is a friend of mine, and he is a good man, but.............I laugh everytime I see him do the Elvis act....   He cant touch Elvis!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:25:47 AM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::





Good info.  Would these outgoing calls from an inmate be recorded?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:28:06 AM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek: <<<<<-----------  ::MonkeyConfused::

Please splain...in 10 words or less  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 13, 2009, 12:28:10 AM
This is for Wyks -- in the prayer request section.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=147.msg624271#msg624271 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=147.msg624271#msg624271)

Thank you so much, Des!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 12:28:12 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::



I just created a thread in the MUSIC forum for ELVIS ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:30:22 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::


SS...on that same site that you went to to view my daughters video, there is a Elvis Impersonator and he is a friend of mine, and he is a good man, but.............I laugh everytime I see him do the Elvis act....   He cant touch Elvis!!!!!!!!!!

I've yet to see one who can..  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 12:31:10 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::



I just created a thread in the MUSIC forum for ELVIS ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0
WELL..................YOu talked her right into that SS  didnt you!!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:32:36 AM
so.. is MUSINGS for all kindsa chit chat...or just for ELVIS impersonators..

*duck* *duck* *goose*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It's a general chit chat...Monken and I have been talking Elvis but it's open for anything I believe...If enough people post about Elvis, I'm gonna ask Klaas to help me make a thread for it in the Lounge under music...there's so much here, I've Bearly  ::MonkeyTongue:: seen any of it  ::MonkeyWink::



I just created a thread in the MUSIC forum for ELVIS ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: did you move all our posts over there?? ...and you'll have to leave directions for Monken  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm hoping she has more pics


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 12:34:51 AM
I don't often have time to surf during the day (though could today) and can't watch/listen to vids 'cause of turtle speed dial-up we have here...and still have no clue how to respond to individ posters since I only see a "reply" button at the bottom of the page  ::MonkeyWaa::  or to myself boo hoo.

Re. a Caylee-type law(s):  wonderful intent and God love all who'd love to see such (including me), but realistically there are prob ample laws on the books to cover this kind of sad circumstance.  The prob is enforcement and how LE is already stretched and how much ready evidence LE and prosecution have to go on to take an alleged perp to trial.

Just an aside:  some years ago I was alone on our place during a really bad snowstorm, DH was away on business trip.  My very aged mare died and I had to call a neighbor to come help me deal with the situation in the midst of deep/blowing snow.  When he arrived he told me to fire up the tractor and pull her out and I just cried and cried at the thought.  He told me to buck up  that my mare's spirit/soul had taken flight and I'd be just hauling out "an old coat" out of the paddock.

It was a heartwrenching experience and thankfully I didn't have to go through it totally alone.  I've loved and lost many loved ones over the years, but rarely have I thought of my good neighbors words re. my late beloved horse until Caylee was finally found.  I'm not quite sure why ten years after that particular event I'm finally able to consider something like Miss Caylee's remains as "...just an old coat".

Now I'm royally PO.  I need a screamin' monkey icon.  I'm sick and tired of folks doing little ones in.  And I'm really PO that folks so easily forget the self-involved lowlives who've gone before...Susan Smith comes to mind (among others).

With all due respect to all, try not to get bogged down w/all the players.  Focus on the alleged perp.  The rest of the indictments can come later.  LE and prosecuters are prob just biding their time though we understandably want immediate gratification/justice. 

Caylee's remains are just that.  Her spirit is somewhere else now, God rest the sweet darlin'. 

I for one am gonna keep my eye on the prize--justice for her untimely death.  The others have to live with themselves until LE/prosecution decides to take 'em to task for their unlawful actions.  That's ok w/me.  Patience is a virtue last I heard (and hope its true  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Last but not least, God love and keep Tim Miller and all who throw in with him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 12:35:32 AM
I'm not moving any posts (that's too much like work  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ).  When I see Monken I'll give her the link.   OR, you can put the link in your signature line   ::MonkeyWink::  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:36:20 AM
OMG I have been trying to catch up all night.  I wanted to comment on this on the other thread and don't know if anyone ever answered you Wendi so I brought it over.  I skipped a few pages to catch up, lol.

QUOTE:

is it possible that D. Casey was talking to LA? surely, he's not talking to KC.

LA:as far as the phone calls & stuff like that, um, you know the accout i set up for you, you know, like when we had that 15 min. phone call.
KC:yeah.
LA:you know those can only go thru to me.
KC:yeah.
LA:so, um, do you know when you are particularly free? if you were to reach out, when should i typically look for those calls?
KC:it'l be during the day, um, probably anytime between now & say maybe 3 or 4 o'clock
LA:ok
KC:it would be within a decent hour of the day.LA:ok, good to know, ok, i just want to make sure i pay more attention to my phone if i don't recognize that particular #. i'm pretty sure i'll know what it is, you know, i'm available everynite & i would drop anything to pick those up.
KC:ok, absolutely.

this is from the same call they talk about Fred Robinson.

also someone was kind enough to send me some stuff on how to copy & paste, is there anywhere i can practice?
tia.
wendi


The account Lee was talking about is an account that you set up with a credit card for calls from the Jail.  they will not just let you call collect anymore.  You have to set up this account and prepay so much for calls and then she can call him on that number.   IT is also used for those people that only have cells cause you cannot call collect to a cell phone. 

BTW  HOw I know this is Step Son landed himself in Jail for 15 days for not paying 12,000.00 worth of traffic fines.  We let his little butt set there as long as they possibly would let us, lol.  It is not the first time it has happened. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::





Good info.  Would these outgoing calls from an inmate be recorded?


You beat me to it...I was wondering the same thing..and if she can add "extra numbers" to code a message to Lee...I'll be looking for someone to answer your question...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 12:36:29 AM
Grandma2Maddie

It is crazy that Our Hearts cannot Love or be founded - when we attempt to converse about Caylee.
I think that the Majority of Society has been so desensitized by Movies and even the Local News...that when we witness something tragic and or horrifying its to be Blinked away. And should never be reflected upon again - within a millisecond its forgotten.

I will mention this as a Prime example of Why we need to pay attention to our Local News and or media. Even when its shocking and or a What happened moment...
In 2003, I was off on vacation and I had on my local morning news TV. I watched a story on a Woman who lived more than 40 miles away from me that had her residence broken into and she was assaulted. I remember I was vacuuming and I turned off the vacuum reading the headline as I was cleaning.
I listened and I felt for her immensely due to what they disclosed on this news report. Which is never the real story for reasons of LE and otherwise. I paid attention though and I thought that poor woman ... My God
Well 5 days later the Same POS that broke into her House - Entered Mine.
If I never would have paid attention to that NEWS  - I would never have had anyone to contact outside of my local LE - which my local LE did not want to investigate because at the time I lived in a city that NO one ever ever get's broken into ..we cannot excite the perfect community ... and make them feel they have to worry ..
It all goes without saying - People need to start caring and paying attention

And God Forbid that One of OUR children were ever to be Missing - you know what I am saying.


Goodness, Im glad you didnt get hurt, and your right ....we do need to pay  closer attention to whats going on around us!!!
HH that night was the Start of my now Beginning - I have never ever been the Same person since .. and I was hurt in too many ways .. ways mentally and um to this day forward I don't think that I will ever sleep soundly ..Unless its daytime. He did break into my home, He did touch me, he did not physically hit, damage my body .. But he Touched me in a private area while I was sound asleep, and that I will and never can get over .. and as what I know he to this day has never been caught and he has changed the lives of countless women.  That's why We have to Pay Attention to all people that surround us, that are our neighbors seen yet unknown, our daily paths that we drive - WE must change UP ..and go different routes. Have to keep ourselves Unpredictable HH even with our daily routines.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 12:38:05 AM
I don't often have time to surf during the day (though could today) and can't watch/listen to vids 'cause of turtle speed dial-up we have here...and still have no clue how to respond to individ posters since I only see a "reply" button at the bottom of the page  ::MonkeyWaa::  or to myself boo hoo.

Re. a Caylee-type law(s):  wonderful intent and God love all who'd love to see such (including me), but realistically there are prob ample laws on the books to cover this kind of sad circumstance.  The prob is enforcement and how LE is already stretched and how much ready evidence LE and prosecution have to go on to take an alleged perp to trial.

Just an aside:  some years ago I was alone on our place during a really bad snowstorm, DH was away on business trip.  My very aged mare died and I had to call a neighbor to come help me deal with the situation in the midst of deep/blowing snow.  When he arrived he told me to fire up the tractor and pull her out and I just cried and cried at the thought.  He told me to buck up  that my mare's spirit/soul had taken flight and I'd be just hauling out "an old coat" out of the paddock.

It was a heartwrenching experience and thankfully I didn't have to go through it totally alone.  I've loved and lost many loved ones over the years, but rarely have I thought of my good neighbors words re. my late beloved horse until Caylee was finally found.  I'm not quite sure why ten years after that particular event I'm finally able to consider something like Miss Caylee's remains as "...just an old coat".

Now I'm royally PO.  I need a screamin' monkey icon.  I'm sick and tired of folks doing little ones in.  And I'm really PO that folks so easily forget the self-involved lowlives who've gone before...Susan Smith comes to mind (among others).

With all due respect to all, try not to get bogged down w/all the players.  Focus on the alleged perp.  The rest of the indictments can come later.  LE and prosecuters are prob just biding their time though we understandably want immediate gratification/justice. 

Caylee's remains are just that.  Her spirit is somewhere else now, God rest the sweet darlin'. 

I for one am gonna keep my eye on the prize--justice for her untimely death.  The others have to live with themselves until LE/prosecution decides to take 'em to task for their unlawful actions.  That's ok w/me.  Patience is a virtue last I heard (and hope its true  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Last but not least, God love and keep Tim Miller and all who throw in with him.


Bravo!  Excellent post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 12:38:38 AM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek: <<<<<-----------  ::MonkeyConfused::

Please splain...in 10 words or less  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um, doesn't that sort of look like me?  I have that whole unmanageable red hair going for me!  Hee hee! 
Went to musings to look for everyone and I was the only one there!  WHAAAAAA!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 12:41:48 AM
Grandma2Maddie

It is crazy that Our Hearts cannot Love or be founded - when we attempt to converse about Caylee.
I think that the Majority of Society has been so desensitized by Movies and even the Local News...that when we witness something tragic and or horrifying its to be Blinked away. And should never be reflected upon again - within a millisecond its forgotten.

I will mention this as a Prime example of Why we need to pay attention to our Local News and or media. Even when its shocking and or a What happened moment...
In 2003, I was off on vacation and I had on my local morning news TV. I watched a story on a Woman who lived more than 40 miles away from me that had her residence broken into and she was assaulted. I remember I was vacuuming and I turned off the vacuum reading the headline as I was cleaning.
I listened and I felt for her immensely due to what they disclosed on this news report. Which is never the real story for reasons of LE and otherwise. I paid attention though and I thought that poor woman ... My God
Well 5 days later the Same POS that broke into her House - Entered Mine.
If I never would have paid attention to that NEWS  - I would never have had anyone to contact outside of my local LE - which my local LE did not want to investigate because at the time I lived in a city that NO one ever ever get's broken into ..we cannot excite the perfect community ... and make them feel they have to worry ..
It all goes without saying - People need to start caring and paying attention

And God Forbid that One of OUR children were ever to be Missing - you know what I am saying.






Oh my!  I sure hope you didn't get hurt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 13, 2009, 12:42:16 AM
Sure.  Would love to hear from you!  Open to any ideas. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Jackie !   I love your posts !  Hope to hear more of your ideas!!  Your smile makes my day !!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 12:42:49 AM
Grandma2Maddie

It is crazy that Our Hearts cannot Love or be founded - when we attempt to converse about Caylee.
I think that the Majority of Society has been so desensitized by Movies and even the Local News...that when we witness something tragic and or horrifying its to be Blinked away. And should never be reflected upon again - within a millisecond its forgotten.

I will mention this as a Prime example of Why we need to pay attention to our Local News and or media. Even when its shocking and or a What happened moment...
In 2003, I was off on vacation and I had on my local morning news TV. I watched a story on a Woman who lived more than 40 miles away from me that had her residence broken into and she was assaulted. I remember I was vacuuming and I turned off the vacuum reading the headline as I was cleaning.
I listened and I felt for her immensely due to what they disclosed on this news report. Which is never the real story for reasons of LE and otherwise. I paid attention though and I thought that poor woman ... My God
Well 5 days later the Same POS that broke into her House - Entered Mine.
If I never would have paid attention to that NEWS  - I would never have had anyone to contact outside of my local LE - which my local LE did not want to investigate because at the time I lived in a city that NO one ever ever get's broken into ..we cannot excite the perfect community ... and make them feel they have to worry ..
It all goes without saying - People need to start caring and paying attention

And God Forbid that One of OUR children were ever to be Missing - you know what I am saying.


Goodness, Im glad you didnt get hurt, and your right ....we do need to pay  closer attention to whats going on around us!!!
HH that night was the Start of my now Beginning - I have never ever been the Same person since .. and I was hurt in too many ways .. ways mentally and um to this day forward I don't think that I will ever sleep soundly ..Unless its daytime. He did break into my home, He did touch me, he did not physically hit, damage my body .. But he Touched me in a private area while I was sound asleep, and that I will and never can get over .. and as what I know he to this day has never been caught and he has changed the lives of countless women.  That's why We have to Pay Attention to all people that surround us, that are our neighbors seen yet unknown, our daily paths that we drive - WE must change UP ..and go different routes. Have to keep ourselves Unpredictable HH even with our daily routines.
OMG.that is horrible and even worse is the idea that he has never been caught!!! How scary.....Im sorry this happened to you and because of the way you told this story, I will have to think a little more everyday about what Im doing and who might be around........Thanks for giving me this overview, I will take to heart everything you said!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 12:43:28 AM
HELP!  Can someone explain to me (aka techie simpleton  ::MonkeyConfused::) how to reply to an individual poster?

Foggy - if you look at the post you want to QUOTE or replay directly too in the upper right hand of the post is a button that looks like this (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/quote.jpg) and if you click on it you'll open to a screen with the quote already in it.  Then all you have to do is type below the quote.  That is what I just did to quote and reply to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:43:29 AM
I'm not moving any posts (that's too much like work  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ).  When I see Monken I'll give her the link.   OR, you can put the link in your signature line   ::MonkeyWink::  ::MonkeyCool::

I didn't realize it was a lot of work...then again, I don't even know how to create a thread.. I can probably copy the posts to wordpad and paste them into the thread...shouldn't take too much at this stage... and I'll tell Monken next time I see her...I don't want to mess up my signature line  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:46:42 AM
I started looking for the location of Lake Vaj in the interview, but I couldn't find anything.  Sean Daly called it the "big pond" during his interview on the Websleuths forum. 

Does anyone know if Annie Downing is still living with Dante Salate? 

My tylenol pm is kicking in.  I will call it a night. 

Thank you to everyone!  I have been welcomed with open arms!  It is great to be a part of this lovely group ::MonkeyDance::

Dante and Annie used to live together at Sawgrass Apartments.
At least until recently, Dante was still living there.  She moved out some time ago (nearly a year?  nearly 2 years?  not sure) after they broke up.  And I posted a couple of maps to locate Lake Vaj a bit back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 12:50:04 AM
For Foggy

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/foggymonkey-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDGp2crSbw

Your Words in your Post are Past Touching

I am so sorry for your loss

Sorry Klass for the O/T but I just had to add it ........... omg I can't even Imagine having to do what Foggy had to do


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Wyks on January 13, 2009, 12:52:11 AM
Am really really tired tonight, heading for the monkey bunkey early (for me, lol).  G'nite monkeys and guests!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 12:52:39 AM
Good evening monkeys. I had to step out for a while today and am wondering if one of the wonderful,sweet monkeys here could give me a break down of what has transpired today??
Any word on the houses of Hopespring?  Any new word on any additional charges? Any new word about the cracker jack box PI's?
TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 12:54:10 AM
Am really really tired tonight, heading for the monkey bunkey early (for me, lol).  G'nite monkeys and guests!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)


Goodnight Wyks...............I just love that little guy with the blanket at the end of your post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:54:14 AM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>

Caylee's remains are just that.  Her spirit is somewhere else now, God rest the sweet darlin'. 

I for one am gonna keep my eye on the prize--justice for her untimely death.  The others have to live with themselves until LE/prosecution decides to take 'em to task for their unlawful actions.  That's ok w/me.  Patience is a virtue last I heard (and hope its true  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Last but not least, God love and keep Tim Miller and all who throw in with him.


Foggy, this was right on target.  You are def a monkey after my own heart!
Thanks for putting this into words.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 12:55:36 AM
Goodnight monkey's. I have to get some sleep so I can watch GMA tomorrow and see what the picture is that ABC paid Mr. Kronk lots of money for licensing fees.

I'm going to take notes of as many of the advertisers as I can during GMA and possibly write them and tell them that this paying for pictures regarding this case is BLOOD MONEYand has to be stopped! 
Sorry I just had to get that out. 

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 12:58:45 AM
Klaas if I spell your Name wrong ONE more Monkey Time You Can HiT me With Nanna Peels ...for some Reason I can't seem to remember the added A ..... I think it's because when I say your name in my Head and think of You - It makes Mention of Polly and I ....... just think of Her.  I will get it right next time.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 12:58:55 AM
'Night, Wyks!  God Bless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 01:00:49 AM

HH that night was the Start of my now Beginning - I have never ever been the Same person since .. and I was hurt in too many ways .. ways mentally and um to this day forward I don't think that I will ever sleep soundly ..Unless its daytime. He did break into my home, He did touch me, he did not physically hit, damage my body .. But he Touched me in a private area while I was sound asleep, and that I will and never can get over .. and as what I know he to this day has never been caught and he has changed the lives of countless women.  That's why We have to Pay Attention to all people that surround us, that are our neighbors seen yet unknown, our daily paths that we drive - WE must change UP ..and go different routes. Have to keep ourselves Unpredictable HH even with our daily routines.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/056.gif)
I'm so sorry this happened to you...you must have been so frightened and with the predator still loose...my gosh..

I have two young daughters and I'm scared to death for them...one is off to school now and the school here is very cautious..you can't get in the building without buzzing in through the front door which is monitored..The bus driver won't let the kids off the bus unless a parent comes to the door where she can see them...even in small town USA, there are still predators. Our community is very close knit so eveyone knows everyone else and would come to help with a phone call..I also keep my shotgun close by which is probably overkill but better safe than sorry..and it only takes one time letting your guard down..

I can't even fathom a parent not protecting their children...that's what makes this case so horrible..there are so many other cases but I've never heard of one like this..but I am sheltered..I admit that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:01:58 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Klaas if I spell your Name wrong ONE more Monkey Time You Can HiT me With Nanna Peels ...for some Reason I can't seem to remember the added A ..... I think it's because when I say your name in my Head and think of You - It makes Mention of Polly and I ....... just think of Her.  I will get it right next time.



No problem, I'm used to it  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:02:31 AM
Klaas if I spell your Name wrong ONE more Monkey Time You Can HiT me With Nanna Peels ...for some Reason I can't seem to remember the added A ..... I think it's because when I say your name in my Head and think of You - It makes Mention of Polly and I ....... just think of Her.  I will get it right next time.


LOL   I use to do the same thing...................but Klaas was very good about it and your right.........I finally started to remember to drop a s and add and a........ ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:02:47 AM
Goodnight monkey's. I have to get some sleep so I can watch GMA tomorrow and see what the picture is that ABC paid Mr. Kronk lots of money for licensing fees.

I'm going to take notes of as many of the advertisers as I can during GMA and possibly write them and tell them that this paying for pictures regarding this case is BLOOD MONEYand has to be stopped! 
Sorry I just had to get that out. 

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Good for you Grandma2Maddie ... I am glad your going to take the notes - I will be with contractors in the Am and I have no TV ... on my main floor of my house - I will miss it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:03:31 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 01:04:26 AM
Good evening monkeys. I had to step out for a while today and am wondering if one of the wonderful,sweet monkeys here could give me a break down of what has transpired today??
Any word on the houses of Hopespring?  Any new word on any additional charges? Any new word about the cracker jack box PI's?
TIA

Searching, not alot really today.  They did show part of the PI video on all the shows though.  They also interviewed Lee's attorney and he proved how inexperienced he is (doofus).  I believe tomorrow morning, KRONK will be giving an interview on Goodmorning America.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:04:49 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:06:05 AM
Klaas if I spell your Name wrong ONE more Monkey Time You Can HiT me With Nanna Peels ...for some Reason I can't seem to remember the added A ..... I think it's because when I say your name in my Head and think of You - It makes Mention of Polly and I ....... just think of Her.  I will get it right next time.


LOL   I use to do the same thing...................but Klaas was very good about it and your right.........I finally started to remember to drop a s and add and a........ ::MonkeyHaHa::
HH I want to smack myself ... I just have a Blank when I try to spell Klaas  - I did it YAY
I am going to have to switch gears and think of Sister Mary Elephant ... lol ..
Omg I can't believe I just said that ... Cheech & Chong Sister Mary Elephant Classss Classs ... Klaaaaaaaaas Thank You :) That was a bit of Improv .. u think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:06:41 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene

LOL I love your expression HH.. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:07:17 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene
Oh I knew what you wrote, we all misspell.....mostly me, because Momma Cat is usually in my lap and its her fault...lol...........I meant WHAT does it stand for......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:08:08 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene
Oh I knew what you wrote, we all misspell.....mostly me, because Momma Cat is usually in my lap and its her fault...lol...........I meant WHAT does it stand for......

bachlor pad=lake vagina


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 01:09:57 AM
Good Night Monkeys !!!

The kids almost missed the bus this morning so I better get to bed...we can't have that.

I'll say Good Night to Wyks too...sorry I missed you but I know you'll read back and see.. I will keep you and your family in my prayers and hopefully, there will be more opportunities to get your son the help he needs..

Night Deenie ! I still have your blog book marked and will check it out again..

Night Klaas...thanks for making the Elvis thread  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene
Oh I knew what you wrote, we all misspell.....mostly me, because Momma Cat is usually in my lap and its her fault...lol...........I meant WHAT does it stand for......

bachlor pad=lake vagina
Oh well sounds like a place Casey would visit....she certainly knew what that was and where to take it to ! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:12:28 AM
Pixie - I don't remember the name of the lake where Lake Vaj was.  I could try to look it up but off the top of my head I don't remember.  You might try reading Sean Daly's LE statement.

Good Evening monkeys- Sean Daly nic was Lak Vaj- so they name their bachelor pad (house)  Lake Vaj...I am not going to say what the vaj stand for but a little absene..  ::MonkeyTongue::
WHAT ::MonkeyEek::

I think I spelled absene wrong- I will try again obsene
Oh I knew what you wrote, we all misspell.....mostly me, because Momma Cat is usually in my lap and its her fault...lol...........I meant WHAT does it stand for......

bachlor pad=lake vagina
Oh well sounds like a place Casey would visit....she certainly knew what that was and where to take it to ! ::MonkeyLaugh::

yep a bachlor pad for one night stands... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:12:54 AM
Good Night Monkeys !!!

The kids almost missed the bus this morning so I better get to bed...we can't have that.

I'll say Good Night to Wyks too...sorry I missed you but I know you'll read back and see.. I will keep you and your family in my prayers and hopefully, there will be more opportunities to get your son the help he needs..

Night Deenie ! I still have your blog book marked and will check it out again..

Night Klaas...thanks for making the Elvis thread  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Good night SS........................Dream a little dream of Elvis tonight... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:14:29 AM
Good night monkeys who are going  to bed- I just got up... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:14:50 AM

HH that night was the Start of my now Beginning - I have never ever been the Same person since .. and I was hurt in too many ways .. ways mentally and um to this day forward I don't think that I will ever sleep soundly ..Unless its daytime. He did break into my home, He did touch me, he did not physically hit, damage my body .. But he Touched me in a private area while I was sound asleep, and that I will and never can get over .. and as what I know he to this day has never been caught and he has changed the lives of countless women.  That's why We have to Pay Attention to all people that surround us, that are our neighbors seen yet unknown, our daily paths that we drive - WE must change UP ..and go different routes. Have to keep ourselves Unpredictable HH even with our daily routines.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/056.gif)
I'm so sorry this happened to you...you must have been so frightened and with the predator still loose...my gosh..

I have two young daughters and I'm scared to death for them...one is off to school now and the school here is very cautious..you can't get in the building without buzzing in through the front door which is monitored..The bus driver won't let the kids off the bus unless a parent comes to the door where she can see them...even in small town USA, there are still predators. Our community is very close knit so eveyone knows everyone else and would come to help with a phone call..I also keep my shotgun close by which is probably overkill but better safe than sorry..and it only takes one time letting your guard down..

I can't even fathom a parent not protecting their children...that's what makes this case so horrible..there are so many other cases but I've never heard of one like this..but I am sheltered..I admit that

SS my Daughter was 13 at that time and was sleeping in the next room - The minute he left ... I ran to her room, before I even thought of Could there be more than ONE intruder still in my house ..before I called 911 - She was my First thought. And don't you ever ever feel that your Shotgun is wrong.
I had right next to me, I fell asleep on my couch .. and had fallen asleep while watching Jay Leno ..we had been outside all day and we were very sun burnt .. I had a plate and a fork on my coffee table right next to the couch .. And the one of the Responding officers had the GAUL to ask me why I didnt use that FORK as a Weapon ! to defend myself ...... can you believe that ....... A FORK
Sure yep .. a Fork





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 01:14:51 AM
For Foggy

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/foggymonkey-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDGp2crSbw

Your Words in your Post are Past Touching

I am so sorry for your loss

Sorry Klass for the O/T but I just had to add it ........... omg I can't even Imagine having to do what Foggy had to do

Oh Deenie, thank you.  Everyone is tougher than they want to think.  Weird that the experience is still so imprinted in my mind.  Out hilly driveway was virtually impassable that day, but my very much older neighbor found his way to be there for me--a surrogate Daddy type so to speak and me a grown woman. 

Why didn't Miss Caylee have someone like us or my beloved neighbor?  Is it just the luck of the draw?  It scares the bejabers out of me just contemplating it.

Don't let the alleged perp sully the image of the shamrock.  She is a fake and a sham who seized on whatever was convenient to perpetuate her "game".  Don't let that pathetic lowlife have any power over you.  I'm sure the shamrock has some freaking weird significance to her.  Big deal.  That doesn't change its historical/religious symbolism.

What a super freak.  I've never opened a can of whoop a$$ on anyone (though there have been many times I should/could have)...but I really want to on alleged perp.   

Many thanks to Klaasend for the tech help


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 01:15:44 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

Higherhopes? I suddenly got called away and am just now on my way to listen...........I'll be right back!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PJ on January 13, 2009, 01:17:51 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you



Hi HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don't leave me out of your adorable daughter's U-tube.  If it's one that I've already heard and seen then forgive my being so CHEEKY.  I'm not caught up yet.  I'm making great progress though.

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:19:39 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

HH - your daughter is really cute and talented.  Thanks for sharing the video with us.   I think might make it BIG one day!!
Thanks to everyone for listening to the video and for the compliments, they mean alot coming from my fellow Monkeys..................also Thanks to the Mods for not throwing bannana peeling at me for causing all the off topic stuff tonight....They are great.......God Bless Caylee...................Please Please let them bury her little remains soon!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 01:20:16 AM
Good evening monkeys. I had to step out for a while today and am wondering if one of the wonderful,sweet monkeys here could give me a break down of what has transpired today??
Any word on the houses of Hopespring?  Any new word on any additional charges? Any new word about the cracker jack box PI's?
TIA

Searching, not alot really today.  They did show part of the PI video on all the shows though.  They also interviewed Lee's attorney and he proved how inexperienced he is (doofus).  I believe tomorrow morning, KRONK will be giving an interview on Goodmorning America.

Thank you, will have to try to be up to watch that. Have we heard anything on the Hopespring houses from LP or LE?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:20:50 AM
Good Night Monkeys !!!

The kids almost missed the bus this morning so I better get to bed...we can't have that.

I'll say Good Night to Wyks too...sorry I missed you but I know you'll read back and see.. I will keep you and your family in my prayers and hopefully, there will be more opportunities to get your son the help he needs..

Night Deenie ! I still have your blog book marked and will check it out again..

Night Klaas...thanks for making the Elvis thread  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Nigh Nigh SS .. Please do check it .. Need support lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 01:22:04 AM
OMG! Higherhopes! She's not only a killer talent, she's gorgeous!!!!

Awesome!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:23:01 AM
snipped from Foggy Dew

Why didn't Miss Caylee have someone like us or my beloved neighbor?

That's the Million Dollar Question .. and Why has she never been Acknowledged by Her Own Family ... since day One.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:23:27 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you



Hi HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don't leave me out of your adorable daughter's U-tube.  If it's one that I've already heard and seen then forgive my being so CHEEKY.  I'm not caught up yet.  I'm making great progress though.

PJ (Paula) :flower:
Oh never would I leave you out of anything PJ....I think it is one that you have already heard,anyway, there is about 5 on there if you want to listen, but its up to you!!!!! Dont wanna overdose you on her!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GabbyG on January 13, 2009, 01:23:32 AM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   

Excellent idea GM and I will do this also if Kronk does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:25:10 AM
OMG! Higherhopes! She's not only a killer talent, she's gorgeous!!!!

Awesome!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Thank You so much...............Im glad you went and listened to her sing!!!!!    Thank You!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 01:25:34 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you


Higher Hope Sierra has a beautiful country voice and is beautiful... ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I do!! Where is it??
Go to Yackahoo.com................go to all videos.........then look at the bottom of the page and go to page 7......it says Sierra .........click on her and listen.......this was the Colgate Country Showdown that she was a finalist in.....


     

Higherhopes? I suddenly got called away and am just now on my way to listen...........I'll be right back!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 01:27:23 AM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek: <<<<<-----------  ::MonkeyConfused::

Please splain...in 10 words or less  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um, doesn't that sort of look like me?  I have that whole unmanageable red hair going for me!  Hee hee! 
Went to musings to look for everyone and I was the only one there!  WHAAAAAA!!!!


You came back...that doesn't look like you one bit...you are a very lovely woman, if I say any more..I'm gonna be in real hot water...IMO like I said...I can't razz you now with you lookin at me like that  ::MonkeyTongue::  I though you meant that you were a puter geek..

Musings is a very lonely place  ::MonkeyHaHa:: but if you leave a post, usually someone responds and if it's specifically to one monkey, just let them know it's there  ::MonkeyWink::

OK...I'm really leaving now...  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 01:31:10 AM
OMG! Higherhopes! She's not only a killer talent, she's gorgeous!!!!

Awesome!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Thank You so much...............Im glad you went and listened to her sing!!!!!    Thank You!!!!!

Oh, I wanted to, HH! I'm so glad I did, too! That 'lil girl has a future!  ::MonkeyWink:: Thank you for sharing!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/express/woohoo20dance.gif)

On the case a second, Greta opened her "teasers" with "Was Casey's car spotted near where Caylee's remains were found and does that place her at the crime scene?" But, there was no follow up on that in Greta's report tonight, that I saw. Did I miss something??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:33:36 AM
OMG! Higherhopes! She's not only a killer talent, she's gorgeous!!!!

Awesome!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Thank You so much...............Im glad you went and listened to her sing!!!!!    Thank You!!!!!

Oh, I wanted to, HH! I'm so glad I did, too! That 'lil girl has a future!  ::MonkeyWink:: Thank you for sharing!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/express/woohoo20dance.gif)

On the case a second, Greta opened her "teasers" with "Was Casey's car spotted near where Caylee's remains were found and does that place her at the crime scene?" But, there was no follow up on that in Greta's report tonight, that I saw. Did I miss something??
I wondered about that too.....I didnt hear anymore either............hmmmmm....wonder whats gonna become of that in the near future!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 01:34:37 AM
It took me FOREVER to get caught up!  It's midnight here, and I have to get up for work in the morning.  So please forgive me, but I wanted to comment on a couple of posts from last thread (and this one, maybe?  I took some notes, lol).

On the Rev. Grund request for info, regarding someone trying to implicate not only him and Jesse, but Mrs. Grund, well, does anyone remember the lady who was posting on Topix (I think) and WS (I think) awhile back, claiming to have spoken with Jesse on the phone as he was traveling from FL to GA?  She claimed to have seen what looked like a "handoff" of a child who resembled Caylee, and went on to describe a couple who sounded like the Grunds, and a pick-up truck that sounded like Jesse.  I believe her name was some variant spelling of "Renee" -- like maybe Ranee or Renae or something.  Anybody?  She described Mrs. Grund as being present at the handoff that supposedly took place in Georgia.

Regarding whether D.Casey knew he was being filmed, I think it must be concluded that he did.  If you see all the video that has been released, it does not seem possible that he would have been taking the specific actions that he did with someone else just standing there pointedly watching him and doing nothing to assist him, while the camera is rolling.  IIRC, J.Hoover's initial story to LP and to LE I believe (per JH's atty) was that Casey requested his presence and requested that he film the searches.

Regarding Kronk taking a photo before LE arrived, well, this may sound terrible, but if I found something that I decided to report to the police, and I had a cell phone camera in my pocket, I would have probably snapped a pic or two just for my own sake, to have proof of what I found in case things got twisted around later on.  I would certainly tell LE that I had done so, too.  Would I sell the pictures for a huge sum of money and profit from the horrible death of a beautiful child?  Uh.  No way.  It will be interesting to see what his story turns out to be.  But in the long run, he doesn't matter all that much, in my opinion.  Caylee was found.  LE has the evidence.  That was his role in this sordid saga.

And on the question of whether William Waters and/or Stephany(ie) Kostakis visited Casey in jail, well it is confusing.  But although the visitation schedule posted by rmcalo does show that WW was scheduled 7-7:45 on 7/29, and SK 9-9:45 on 8/3, I don't believe either one actually had a visit with Casey.  This was during the period when she learned that she only had 3 visits per week, and IIRC, she declined WW and SK, citing the need to visit w/her family.  Then it was on 8/8, the day before Caylee's b-day, that she declined Lee's visit for the first time.  Then she declined other family visits in the week after that.  I could very well be wrong, but I can't find evidence of visits from WW or SK.  (I wondered at the time whether WW was on the list at the urging of LE, though, to try to get some info out of Casey for them...)

I loved Klaas's use of the word "buffoon" for a certain attorney (or was it a PI??)  Let's put that on the list with diabolical and odious.

Shan suggested there has been clandestine audio surveillance of the A's home for a long time now.  I sure hope so!  It got me to thinking... what if LP has been undercover for OCSO or the FBI all this time?  Wouldn't that be a hoot?  Oh, and btw, when D.Casey did his "anti-surveillance" check of the house, I wonder if he didn't plant his own little device, though...

Here is the video of Gale St.John's psychic drive on August 11, the same day Kronk first called about the site on Suburban.  She pulls over at what appears to be exactly the spot where Caylee's body was later found.  The boy in the back seat says his stomach feels sick.  She says that the dogs are sick.  She states that "something is not right."  She says "they(?)" searched this area with cadaver dogs, but she's sure "they" missed something.  She was either very accurate, she just coincidentally happened to make a bulls-eye guess, or she was tipped off somehow.  Is there some connection between this drive of GSJ's and the report by the meter reader on the same day?  Curious, isn't it...?  (BTW, that silver Ford Focus is still at 4709 Hopespring, like it was in the Jan 2006 photo I posted last night.  You can see it in the video, just before they turn the corner onto Suburban.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukQWMaxD0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukQWMaxD0Q)

Sorry this was so long.  I HAVE to go to bed and just wanted to respond to some of the five million posts I have enjoyed reading through for the past hundred hours here on Scared Monkeys.  (ok, I'm exaggerating... a little!) ::MonkeyWink::

I'm checking email and reading for a few more minutes here, then off to bed.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 13, 2009, 01:40:28 AM


IF YOU GET A CHANCE CHECK MY PRAYER REQUEST.  THE TOPIC SEEMS TO AFFECT SO MANY MONKEYS.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:40:59 AM
It took me FOREVER to get caught up!  It's midnight here, and I have to get up for work in the morning.  So please forgive me, but I wanted to comment on a couple of posts from last thread (and this one, maybe?  I took some notes, lol).

On the Rev. Grund request for info, regarding someone trying to implicate not only him and Jesse, but Mrs. Grund, well, does anyone remember the lady who was posting on Topix (I think) and WS (I think) awhile back, claiming to have spoken with Jesse on the phone as he was traveling from FL to GA?  She claimed to have seen what looked like a "handoff" of a child who resembled Caylee, and went on to describe a couple who sounded like the Grunds, and a pick-up truck that sounded like Jesse.  I believe her name was some variant spelling of "Renee" -- like maybe Ranee or Renae or something.  Anybody?  She described Mrs. Grund as being present at the handoff that supposedly took place in Georgia.

Regarding whether D.Casey knew he was being filmed, I think it must be concluded that he did.  If you see all the video that has been released, it does not seem possible that he would have been taking the specific actions that he did with someone else just standing there pointedly watching him and doing nothing to assist him, while the camera is rolling.  IIRC, J.Hoover's initial story to LP and to LE I believe (per JH's atty) was that Casey requested his presence and requested that he film the searches.

Regarding Kronk taking a photo before LE arrived, well, this may sound terrible, but if I found something that I decided to report to the police, and I had a cell phone camera in my pocket, I would have probably snapped a pic or two just for my own sake, to have proof of what I found in case things got twisted around later on.  I would certainly tell LE that I had done so, too.  Would I sell the pictures for a huge sum of money and profit from the horrible death of a beautiful child?  Uh.  No way.  It will be interesting to see what his story turns out to be.  But in the long run, he doesn't matter all that much, in my opinion.  Caylee was found.  LE has the evidence.  That was his role in this sordid saga.

And on the question of whether William Waters and/or Stephany(ie) Kostakis visited Casey in jail, well it is confusing.  But although the visitation schedule posted by rmcalo does show that WW was scheduled 7-7:45 on 7/29, and SK 9-9:45 on 8/3, I don't believe either one actually had a visit with Casey.  This was during the period when she learned that she only had 3 visits per week, and IIRC, she declined WW and SK, citing the need to visit w/her family.  Then it was on 8/8, the day before Caylee's b-day, that she declined Lee's visit for the first time.  Then she declined other family visits in the week after that.  I could very well be wrong, but I can't find evidence of visits from WW or SK.  (I wondered at the time whether WW was on the list at the urging of LE, though, to try to get some info out of Casey for them...)

I loved Klaas's use of the word "buffoon" for a certain attorney (or was it a PI??)  Let's put that on the list with diabolical and odious.

Shan suggested there has been clandestine audio surveillance of the A's home for a long time now.  I sure hope so!  It got me to thinking... what if LP has been undercover for OCSO or the FBI all this time?  Wouldn't that be a hoot?  Oh, and btw, when D.Casey did his "anti-surveillance" check of the house, I wonder if he didn't plant his own little device, though...

Here is the video of Gale St.John's psychic drive on August 11, the same day Kronk first called about the site on Suburban.  She pulls over at what appears to be exactly the spot where Caylee's body was later found.  The boy in the back seat says his stomach feels sick.  She says that the dogs are sick.  She states that "something is not right."  She says "they(?)" searched this area with cadaver dogs, but she's sure "they" missed something.  She was either very accurate, she just coincidentally happened to make a bulls-eye guess, or she was tipped off somehow.  Is there some connection between this drive of GSJ's and the report by the meter reader on the same day?  Curious, isn't it...?  (BTW, that silver Ford Focus is still at 4709 Hopespring, like it was in the Jan 2006 photo I posted last night.  You can see it in the video, just before they turn the corner onto Suburban.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukQWMaxD0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukQWMaxD0Q)

Sorry this was so long.  I HAVE to go to bed and just wanted to respond to some of the five million posts I have enjoyed reading through for the past hundred hours here on Scared Monkeys.  (ok, I'm exaggerating... a little!) ::MonkeyWink::

I'm checking email and reading for a few more minutes here, then off to bed.

Desdemona I am sure that BooMonkey can help you with some of these questions .. I wish I could help. Your efforts of this post are shown. I am sure you will receive replies in the AM... keep up the good work ...sleepy Monkeys left over right now from a long day
 :cyclops:
K


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 01:42:22 AM


IF YOU GET A CHANCE CHECK MY PRAYER REQUEST.  THE TOPIC SEEMS TO AFFECT SO MANY MONKEYS.  

Dottie I will go look .....thank you for mentioning - It's always nice to See Positive Posts



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 01:49:31 AM
I don't often have time to surf during the day (though could today) and can't watch/listen to vids 'cause of turtle speed dial-up we have here...and still have no clue how to respond to individ posters since I only see a "reply" button at the bottom of the page  ::MonkeyWaa::  or to myself boo hoo.

Re. a Caylee-type law(s):  wonderful intent and God love all who'd love to see such (including me), but realistically there are prob ample laws on the books to cover this kind of sad circumstance.  The prob is enforcement and how LE is already stretched and how much ready evidence LE and prosecution have to go on to take an alleged perp to trial.  



I just wanted to reply to this...then I'm really really going... The LE up here are incredibly efficient..we had a young 12 yr old girl murdered by her uncle a while back and the LE found her body, and had all the evidence within a week or two...they also gave updates regularly, not releasing critical info but to keep the public informed and confident (not sure that's the right word) that they were focused 100% of catching the perp and keeping the community protected.
The problem is in the courts..the uncle was given a light sentence for a brutal assault on another young girl although an adult, makes no less of a crime to me...he should never have seen the light of day but was instead released on probation early as part of their "rehabilitation" program...had he been locked up the 12 yr old would be alive today..
Another case was on Bill ORileys program...a judge gave a child molester 6 weeks in jail for that crime..unbelievable..
This is why I think new and very harsh laws need to be created that have no leeway.. in my book, a pedophile, murderer, rapist and others...should never be allowed into society again..

Great post Foggy Dew  ::MonkeyCool:: everything else was 100% for me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 01:50:46 AM
snipped from Foggy Dew

Why didn't Miss Caylee have someone like us or my beloved neighbor?

That's the Million Dollar Question .. and Why has she never been Acknowledged by Her Own Family ... since day One.



Deenie, I often ask rhetorical questions--I will never have a clue why helpless creature's lives are entrusted to folks who haven't a clue/are cruel.  It would have been so easy to give the darlin' up to anyone, yet alleged perp held on to her like a gold brick or something as a form of currency.

Its too hard to know why the late baby's family is so apparently uncaring.  I'd just say cut 'em some slack for now and watch and wait.  They are some sick citizens I think, but if we are all patient my fondest wish is that the truth will finally emerge...and this coming from someone (me) who wants to smack around alleged perp and her kin and the other lowlives.

I'm sorry about what happened to you.  Be good to yourself, and don't sweat what the cops said re. you not using the fork as a weapon.  They were prob just thinking like cops do...and forgetting that folks don't have the presence of mind to grasp potential weapons when they are in the midst of an assault. 

And here you posted such a touching pic and post to me re. my late dear horsie.  Wow.  You are quite a big hearted girl, my friend. 

I would like to send you many hugs. :smt052


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GabbyG on January 13, 2009, 01:51:21 AM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.


I have a 3 year old Golden Lab, she is my sunshine. I live alone and lost most of my hearing after having several cancer surgeries (head and sinus cancer) so my kids got her for me as a pup to be my ears at night because I had gotten so afraid to go to sleep, afraid I wouldnt hear anything if someone would try to break in, etc. Since having her I have no trouble sleeping now because even tho I am almost completely deaf I can definitely hear her bark!! And she helps during the day too by barking whenever we have company. Someone could bang and bang on my door and I never heard them but since I got Emmy she lets me know when someone is here. But that's just the icing on the cake because since getting her I am no longer alone, I have a house mate that can make me smile even when I dont want to. She is a true blessing, and is my best friend. I plan to have an avatar of her made as soon as I can figure out how to get the picures uploaded to my computer. Puter illiterate here  LOL
Im sorry for the OT, it's just that I have been seeing all the great avatars of everyone's pets and I just couldnt help myself, I had to share about my Emmy. I promise I wont make a habit of it!! Promise! I would say the Devil made me do it, but that wouldn't exactly be true  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I pray daily that all those people who are turning this case into the worst nightmare possible will get their just rewards soon. Our little Caylee deserves better than she has been given, and I truly believe we will see justice done here.

I love being part of Scared Monkeys, and I am very proud to be part of such an awesome forum. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 13, 2009, 01:53:02 AM
Sure.  Would love to hear from you!  Open to any ideas. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Jackie !   I love your posts !  Hope to hear more of your ideas!!  Your smile makes my day !!!


                          ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 01:56:46 AM
GabbyG.....so glad you have you darling pet to help you out now too!!!!!!!!!!cant wait to see a picture of her soon!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 01:58:53 AM
Desdemona - According to Gale St. Johns youtube she was searching almost in the exact same spot that Dominic Case was which is approximately 200 feet from where Caylee was found.   I marked the approximate spot where Caylee's body was found in red.  Looks like Gayle (just like Dominic) was further down the road in the direction of the school.   

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/GaleSt.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 02:00:52 AM
It took me FOREVER to get caught up!  It's midnight here, and I have to get up for work in the morning.  So please forgive me, but I wanted to comment on a couple of posts from last thread (and this one, maybe?  I took some notes, lol).

<snipped by Desi>

Desdemona I am sure that BooMonkey can help you with some of these questions .. I wish I could help. Your efforts of this post are shown. I am sure you will receive replies in the AM... keep up the good work ...sleepy Monkeys left over right now from a long day
 :cyclops:
K

Deenie, thank you for your kind reply.  Yes, it is a pattern.  By the time I get caught up and post all my thoughts, it is late and most of the little monkeys are in bed.

Here is a request for any smart researcher monkey, or a monkey who has a good database of case photos:

Does anyone have a picture of Lee using his cell phone?

I wanted to compare it to this pic, based on something Red mentioned earlier about Lee setting up a special account at the jail for Casey to make calls to his cell phone.

TIA, Oh, and SS, Goodnight, sleep well, and get those kids to the bus in the morning!  lol ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GabbyG on January 13, 2009, 02:16:07 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

God Bless Tim..... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

YEAH TIM!


For all you cheaters, liars, greedy money mongers....Stand Back and watch how a real Man behaves!!  Take note, you might learn something.
   ::cartwheel::  WTG TIM!!   ::cartwheel:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PJ on January 13, 2009, 02:16:49 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.
Hey  CBB...let me know when you want to hear my daughter sing, I have a video for you



Hi HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don't leave me out of your adorable daughter's U-tube.  If it's one that I've already heard and seen then forgive my being so CHEEKY.  I'm not caught up yet.  I'm making great progress though.

PJ (Paula) :flower:
Oh never would I leave you out of anything PJ....I think it is one that you have already heard,anyway, there is about 5 on there if you want to listen, but its up to you!!!!! Dont wanna overdose you on her!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Can you tell that I'm nearly caught up???  Oh what a good feeling it is too.   ::MonkeyDance::
I couldn't ever tire of hearing your adorable Daughter singing.  I did go and re-listen and am so glad I did.  Now I hope it won't be too long before we have the pleasure of hearing her tribute to Precious Caylee.

PJ (Paula)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:21:15 AM
snipped from Foggy Dew

Why didn't Miss Caylee have someone like us or my beloved neighbor?

That's the Million Dollar Question .. and Why has she never been Acknowledged by Her Own Family ... since day One.



Deenie, I often ask rhetorical questions--I will never have a clue why helpless creature's lives are entrusted to folks who haven't a clue/are cruel.  It would have been so easy to give the darlin' up to anyone, yet alleged perp held on to her like a gold brick or something as a form of currency.

Its too hard to know why the late baby's family is so apparently uncaring.  I'd just say cut 'em some slack for now and watch and wait.  They are some sick citizens I think, but if we are all patient my fondest wish is that the truth will finally emerge...and this coming from someone (me) who wants to smack around alleged perp and her kin and the other lowlives.

I'm sorry about what happened to you.  Be good to yourself, and don't sweat what the cops said re. you not using the fork as a weapon.  They were prob just thinking like cops do...and forgetting that folks don't have the presence of mind to grasp potential weapons when they are in the midst of an assault. 

And here you posted such a touching pic and post to me re. my late dear horsie.  Wow.  You are quite a big hearted girl, my friend. 

I would like to send you many hugs. :smt052

Foggy YOU totally Rock ~ I love the way you speak within your words. You have quite a energy ..that's not an easy thing either. To offer your personal presence in typed words  - You really shine. You remind of a Character in the movie Cold Mountain " Ruby" - not that your a character but your Straight from the Heart ..
You should become LE  yourself. I sense in your background maybe you have been in the Military or along the line .. either that or your just  " Just"
Foggy
((( huge hugs)))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 02:25:23 AM
Good night monkeys who are going  to bed- I just got up... ::MonkeyCool::

Jersey Girl:  Hope your back is ok . . .

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 02:27:51 AM
Desdemona - According to Gale St. Johns youtube she was searching almost in the exact same spot that Dominic Case was which is approximately 200 feet from where Caylee was found.   I marked the approximate spot where Caylee's body was found in red.  Looks like Gayle (just like Dominic) was further down the road in the direction of the school.   

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/GaleSt.jpg)

Yes, you are right.  In the video, the reaction of the guy in the back seat (Travis?) and Gale and the dogs occurs around the place where Caylee would eventually be found, then Gale pulls the car over before reaching the light pole on that side of the street, before the curve.  The lady who gets out (Coleen) walks with the dog, searching farther down toward the school.  I think this is about where she stopped.

(Thank you SO MUCH for responding.)  And now I really am going to bed.  Nite, Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 02:27:55 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:29:00 AM
I made it too!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Mya is very beautiful!  And I have a gd named Maddie, the light of my life!  Six and half years old!
Thank you!  Mya is a minature American Eskimo.  She is almost 2.  My gd Maddie will be 3 in 2 months.  She is also the light of my eye.  I love her soooooooo much.


I have a 3 year old Golden Lab, she is my sunshine. I live alone and lost most of my hearing after having several cancer surgeries (head and sinus cancer) so my kids got her for me as a pup to be my ears at night because I had gotten so afraid to go to sleep, afraid I wouldnt hear anything if someone would try to break in, etc. Since having her I have no trouble sleeping now because even tho I am almost completely deaf I can definitely hear her bark!! And she helps during the day too by barking whenever we have company. Someone could bang and bang on my door and I never heard them but since I got Emmy she lets me know when someone is here. But that's just the icing on the cake because since getting her I am no longer alone, I have a house mate that can make me smile even when I dont want to. She is a true blessing, and is my best friend. I plan to have an avatar of her made as soon as I can figure out how to get the picures uploaded to my computer. Puter illiterate here  LOL
Im sorry for the OT, it's just that I have been seeing all the great avatars of everyone's pets and I just couldnt help myself, I had to share about my Emmy. I promise I wont make a habit of it!! Promise! I would say the Devil made me do it, but that wouldn't exactly be true  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I pray daily that all those people who are turning this case into the worst nightmare possible will get their just rewards soon. Our little Caylee deserves better than she has been given, and I truly believe we will see justice done here.

I love being part of Scared Monkeys, and I am very proud to be part of such an awesome forum. 

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/gabby.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:29:52 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

No but you do appear to be Hard Headed ..................... ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 02:32:58 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

OMG!! Too funny!!

No, but can we nickname you "turtlehead?"  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 02:33:10 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh, how I needed that!  You have no idea.
Thank you for the good laugh.  Perfect caption, Searching.

Now goodnight, all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 02:36:22 AM
GABBYG: HUGS TO YOU AND EMMY!! I'M ALONE TOO, BUT I HAVE MY FURRY FAMILY MEMBER, AND I KNOW WHAT A FRIEND MEANS!!  {{HUGS!}}


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:36:39 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Who you think you are George Carlin >  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 02:37:01 AM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek: <<<<<-----------  ::MonkeyConfused::

Please splain...in 10 words or less  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um, doesn't that sort of look like me?  I have that whole unmanageable red hair going for me!  Hee hee! 
Went to musings to look for everyone and I was the only one there!  WHAAAAAA!!!!


You came back...that doesn't look like you one bit...you are a very lovely woman, if I say any more..I'm gonna be in real hot water...IMO like I said...I can't razz you now with you lookin at me like that  ::MonkeyTongue::  I though you meant that you were a puter geek..

Musings is a very lonely place  ::MonkeyHaHa:: but if you leave a post, usually someone responds and if it's specifically to one monkey, just let them know it's there  ::MonkeyWink::

OK...I'm really leaving now...  ::MonkeyRoll::

Thank you for the compliment.

And now it's official:  Sea Searcher has left the room!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 02:37:16 AM
Nite, Des! Sleep Well!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:40:07 AM
GABBYG: HUGS TO YOU AND EMMY!! I'M ALONE TOO, BUT I HAVE MY FURRY FAMILY MEMBER, AND I KNOW WHAT A FRIEND MEANS!!  {{HUGS!}}
If I didnt have my Fur Babies, Fin baby all are within my life 9 yrs + ... Oh my word ..and now Deenie my Puppy who just turned 7 mos ... My little spirit .. who's knows how I could have turned out .........  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 02:41:25 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh, how I needed that!  You have no idea.
Thank you for the good laugh.  Perfect caption, Searching.

Now goodnight, all!

Glad I could help. Good night and sleep well.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

So cute!

But only 'cause I care about you, would you please take that helmet off when you cross the street so you can hear the traffic?

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:42:31 AM

You are a very attractive lady!!!  Just noticed your avi.

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/EMOPOyes008HL3.gif)

:geek: <<<<<-----------  ::MonkeyConfused::

Please splain...in 10 words or less  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Um, doesn't that sort of look like me?  I have that whole unmanageable red hair going for me!  Hee hee! 
Went to musings to look for everyone and I was the only one there!  WHAAAAAA!!!!


You came back...that doesn't look like you one bit...you are a very lovely woman, if I say any more..I'm gonna be in real hot water...IMO like I said...I can't razz you now with you lookin at me like that  ::MonkeyTongue::  I though you meant that you were a puter geek..

Musings is a very lonely place  ::MonkeyHaHa:: but if you leave a post, usually someone responds and if it's specifically to one monkey, just let them know it's there  ::MonkeyWink::

OK...I'm really leaving now...  ::MonkeyRoll::

Thank you for the compliment.

And now it's official:  Sea Searcher has left the room!
Yes Elvis has left the Cage ............   :smt010
He is the bestest


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 02:46:11 AM
Glad I was able to give everyone a laugh. Turtle head sounds fine to me. I thought a good laugh would be good for everyone and just could not help myself :) It has been a rough go for all of us who actually love Caylee,wish her family did,but well,some people just stink...

I am going to hit the monkey bunky now if I can sleep,if not I will be back.

Good night all.

Monkey hugs to everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:47:31 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

So cute!

But only 'cause I care about you, would you please take that helmet off when you cross the street so you can hear the traffic?

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Sparky you have to go to the Link I posted on the Elvis page -
Its too cool, I found a Vid of Chuck Berry and he is wearing SS's Hat and he is doing his groove ... on stage


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 02:53:16 AM
Glad I was able to give everyone a laugh. Turtle head sounds fine to me. I thought a good laugh would be good for everyone and just could not help myself :) It has been a rough go for all of us who actually love Caylee,wish her family did,but well,some people just stink...

I am going to hit the monkey bunky now if I can sleep,if not I will be back.

Good night all.

Monkey hugs to everyone.
Night Night and Hugs Back


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 03:17:13 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

So cute!

But only 'cause I care about you, would you please take that helmet off when you cross the street so you can hear the traffic?

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Sparky you have to go to the Link I posted on the Elvis page -
Its too cool, I found a Vid of Chuck Berry and he is wearing SS's Hat and he is doing his groove ... on stage

Oh kewl!!  I will, thanks for telling me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GabbyG on January 13, 2009, 03:31:24 AM

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/gabby.jpg)
[/quote]

Ohh Deenie that was beautiful! Thank you so much!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GabbyG on January 13, 2009, 03:35:56 AM
GABBYG: HUGS TO YOU AND EMMY!! I'M ALONE TOO, BUT I HAVE MY FURRY FAMILY MEMBER, AND I KNOW WHAT A FRIEND MEANS!!  {{HUGS!}}

{{{Big Hugggs}}}  back to you CBB!! Our furry babies are a true blessing arent they!! Im SO glad you have yours too...their love is unconditional and a Gift beyond words.

Well, time for me to say g'nite to everyone, and here's wishing you all a Blessed tomorrow!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 03:36:43 AM

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/gabby.jpg)

Ohh Deenie that was beautiful! Thank you so much!!
[/quote]

Your so very welcome ~ No worries Here ~Your Family


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 13, 2009, 04:01:07 AM
Hi KCJackie  --  I see you up there.

Do you have any more good maps for us ?   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 13, 2009, 04:04:48 AM
Hi KCJackie  --  I see you up there.

Do you have any more good maps for us ?   ::MonkeyWink::
I have a bunch of handy dandy maps available ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Which ones would you like?  I love your smile!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 13, 2009, 04:10:36 AM
Hi KCJackie  --  I see you up there.

Do you have any more good maps for us ?   ::MonkeyWink::
I have a bunch of handy dandy maps available ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Which ones would you like?  I love your smile!!!!


Why thank you.     ::MonkeyCool::


Is there any significance to the white shed on the fence line on this here map:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.487963~-81.261379&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!586&encType=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KCJackie on January 13, 2009, 04:15:07 AM
Bud's Girls, I don't know if there is any significance to the white shed on the fence line on that there map. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 13, 2009, 04:30:54 AM
Bud's Girls, I don't know if there is any significance to the white shed on the fence line on that there map. ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyShocked::   I don't either.

 
Would you like some coffee while we deliberate on the matter ?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 13, 2009, 05:00:38 AM
I found a new good source of info on YouTube. This person covers pretty much everything related to the case including JVM, NG, PI interviews, Luka interviews, etc.
You might have to hover with the mouse to find the the correct order of the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=veilanna&view=videos

Thank you so much Scatty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 13, 2009, 05:21:54 AM
Karmaround up

I have been a miss for awhile on SM and I have been looking for you.
I have always remembered you for many reasons -
First your posts, 2nd your Felix the Cat and third your SM Name within Meaning

I think this is the Year .. my Dear Woman ... Karma is not only coming It's Here this year 2009  ~ I believe it, I do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:12:51 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::

Caylee may be cremated.
Caylee may be cremated
Last Edited: Monday, 12 Jan 2009, 7:49 PM EST
Created: Monday, 12 Jan 2009, 7:41 PM EST

<snipped>
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently."

VIDEO: Will Caylee Anthony remains be cremated?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

Article:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=3.2.1
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:22:57 AM
Nancy Grace Transcripts

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:30:29 AM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsers as I can and express how I feel.   


Good Idea!  Count me in!


Bringing this forward for the morning monkeys.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:39:08 AM
Greta VanSustern Transcript(interview with Tim Miller)

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/#


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 06:39:12 AM
Good Morning Monkeys !!!! Coffee Time !!!

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Gotta go make pancakes & wake the kids....bbl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:51:47 AM
Good Morning Monkeys !!!! Coffee Time !!!

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Gotta go make pancakes & wake the kids....bbl


Yummy...............time to get on the old treadmill for a few minutes.BRB
Maybe we will get some more news today.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 06:54:29 AM
I have a favor to ask of you monkeys? 
Whoever watches GMA when Mr. Kronk is on and if he shows a picture of Caylee or what is to be believed is Caylee could you keep track of as many of the advertisers as you can that run adds during GMA?  I'm going to try to do the same thing.  If he does show a picture then I plan on writing to GMA and as many sponsors as I can and express how I feel.   
They say he is going to show a picture, but I'm thinking it is the bag perhaps, by no means would they show remains, and it would be not to interesting if he just showed a picture of a tree or bush. I am curious what the picture would be.
Hey Monkeys! ::MonkeyWink::
I am guessing that it is probably a mundane pic but they are prepared to pay for it because they need to find a way to pay Kronk considering their no payment policy on interviews. I could be wrong though and I won't be able to see the program so I would love for someone to tell w me what the picture does show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 06:54:42 AM

 
Would you like some coffee while we deliberate on the matter ?



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 07:01:25 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 07:07:35 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??

Dolce's boy isn't missing...she's been telling us about a 6 yr old boy missing in her area..

there is a thread for him here..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 07:10:18 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??

Dolce's boy isn't missing...she's been telling us about a 6 yr old boy missing in her area..

there is a thread for him here..

sry...link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.msg622604#msg622604


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 07:22:40 AM
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2009/01/12/Chilling-new-video-in-Caylee/1231786603.html


Chilling new video in Caylee Anthony case



http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/18458831/detail.html

Casey PI Talking With Psychic In Video


http://www.wftv.com/news/18464944/detail.html#-
Lawyer Says Lee Denied He Was On Phone With P.I.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 07:25:25 AM
Nancy Grace Monday night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ4Z6GJPwh0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jHBOuKsCsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yTsdWNdHA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcCxvssiPfY&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxBcTjgqu4&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25WuA0NJt4&feature=channel

TRANSCRIPTS

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:27:48 AM

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 ::MonkeyDance:: Good Morning Monkeys!! ::MonkeyDance::

I am way behind, I just jumped into the new cage!! May just skip the first 15 pages, I've been trying to catch up since last night!! Anything new this morning?? Here's some coffee too:
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Mmmm....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 07:37:03 AM
Seems the pic on GMA is of a ratlesnake.
oh! Good Morning Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 07:40:17 AM
This guy seems to be on the up and up. I sure hope so. IMO I don't think they would have paid for the snake pic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 07:44:17 AM

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I am way behind, I just jumped into the new cage!! May just skip the first 15 pages, I've been trying to catch up since last night!! Anything new this morning?? Here's some coffee too:



Mornin' QM..

Not too much...

There's a good video from Fox that Klaas posted about the location of DC's search..

We're trying to figure out where the white house is in Hoovers Vid..

Kronk is on the Today show....Today   ::MonkeyWink::

Sparky is actually a beautiful lady and not a terrier..   ::MonkeyRoll::

HH's daughter has a terrific voice..  ::MonkeyCool::

Deenie thinks I have a big heart..

Klaas made an Elvis thread for us fans..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

and you're still not allowed to use my coffee monkey...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 07:49:38 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 07:54:11 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 07:54:51 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??

Dolce's boy isn't missing...she's been telling us about a 6 yr old boy missing in her area..

there is a thread for him here..
Thankyou, I just read it. That pic of th grandma crying broke my heart.
sry...link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.msg622604#msg622604


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 07:54:59 AM
I don't often have time to surf during the day (though could today) and can't watch/listen to vids 'cause of turtle speed dial-up we have here...and still have no clue how to respond to individ posters since I only see a "reply" button at the bottom of the page  ::MonkeyWaa::  or to myself boo hoo.

Re. a Caylee-type law(s):  wonderful intent and God love all who'd love to see such (including me), but realistically there are prob ample laws on the books to cover this kind of sad circumstance.  The prob is enforcement and how LE is already stretched and how much ready evidence LE and prosecution have to go on to take an alleged perp to trial.

Just an aside:  some years ago I was alone on our place during a really bad snowstorm, DH was away on business trip.  My very aged mare died and I had to call a neighbor to come help me deal with the situation in the midst of deep/blowing snow.  When he arrived he told me to fire up the tractor and pull her out and I just cried and cried at the thought.  He told me to buck up  that my mare's spirit/soul had taken flight and I'd be just hauling out "an old coat" out of the paddock.

It was a heartwrenching experience and thankfully I didn't have to go through it totally alone.  I've loved and lost many loved ones over the years, but rarely have I thought of my good neighbors words re. my late beloved horse until Caylee was finally found.  I'm not quite sure why ten years after that particular event I'm finally able to consider something like Miss Caylee's remains as "...just an old coat".

Now I'm royally PO.  I need a screamin' monkey icon.  I'm sick and tired of folks doing little ones in.  And I'm really PO that folks so easily forget the self-involved lowlives who've gone before...Susan Smith comes to mind (among others).

With all due respect to all, try not to get bogged down w/all the players.  Focus on the alleged perp.  The rest of the indictments can come later.  LE and prosecuters are prob just biding their time though we understandably want immediate gratification/justice. 

Caylee's remains are just that.  Her spirit is somewhere else now, God rest the sweet darlin'. 

I for one am gonna keep my eye on the prize--justice for her untimely death.  The others have to live with themselves until LE/prosecution decides to take 'em to task for their unlawful actions.  That's ok w/me.  Patience is a virtue last I heard (and hope its true  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Last but not least, God love and keep Tim Miller and all who throw in with him.


Bravo!  Excellent post!


FoggyDew,Great post.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:56:42 AM

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I am way behind, I just jumped into the new cage!! May just skip the first 15 pages, I've been trying to catch up since last night!! Anything new this morning?? Here's some coffee too:



Mornin' QM..

Not too much...

There's a good video from Fox that Klaas posted about the location of DC's search..

We're trying to figure out where the white house is in Hoovers Vid..

Kronk is on the Today show....Today   ::MonkeyWink::

Sparky is actually a beautiful lady and not a terrier..   ::MonkeyRoll::

HH's daughter has a terrific voice..  ::MonkeyCool::

Deenie thinks I have a big heart..

Klaas made an Elvis thread for us fans..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

and you're still not allowed to use my coffee monkey...  ::MonkeyTongue::

There's a good video from Fox that Klaas posted about the location of DC's search..
Thanks so much SS for the recap! Do you have a link for the Fox video?

We're trying to figure out where the white house is in Hoovers Vid..
I want to find that house too, it's buggin the cr@p out of me. I'm scouring maps live of the area hoping to find it. Atleast I'm going to try. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack though, but not impossible!

and you're still not allowed to use my coffee monkey...
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

P.S. thanks for all the other info too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 07:58:19 AM
This guy seems to be on the up and up. I sure hope so. IMO I don't think they would have paid for the snake pic.
Morning guys! It is actually late here in Oz so I'd love a coffee I intend to pull an all nighter lol! Re the pic I didn't think he would show a pic of the baby's remains but I do think that GMA really wanted an interview with him so they offered to pay for the pic of the snake to get him there. That way they weren't breaking their policy not to pay for interviews. JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 07:58:43 AM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:00:47 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??

Dolce's boy isn't missing...she's been telling us about a 6 yr old boy missing in her area..

there is a thread for him here..
Thankyou, I just read it. That pic of th grandma crying broke my heart.
sry...link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.msg622604#msg622604

yes...it's yet another sad story...I hope they find him soon or I fear the worst  ::MonkeyNoNo::
It's amazing to see the difference in family reactions between that case and this one..
I take it kidfinders hasn't shown up yet..  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:04:48 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV

SS, I have no earthly idea how to post a video, but I am sure some smart Monkey can do it. This monkey is old and computer DUMB.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 08:06:32 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:07:02 AM
Morning all
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:08:00 AM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:09:43 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.


::MonkeyConfused::Oh Geeshhhhhh! Are there any good snipers in Orlando? I wish the defense would just SHUT THE H$LL UP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 08:10:52 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

No, but it does make your butt look big! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:12:02 AM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told
That is how the media gets the viewers. I think I read on here last night that Kronk had some photos that were turned over to LE.....I hope he covered his butt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 08:13:43 AM
I am playing catchup here at the moment and in the last thread a monkey asks if NG gave any more info on Dolce's missing boy..
Please tell me he is not referring to our dolce??

Dolce's boy isn't missing...she's been telling us about a 6 yr old boy missing in her area..

there is a thread for him here..
Thankyou, I just read it. That pic of th grandma crying broke my heart.
sry...link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.msg622604#msg622604

yes...it's yet another sad story...I hope they find him soon or I fear the worst  ::MonkeyNoNo::
It's amazing to see the difference in family reactions between that case and this one..
I take it kidfinders hasn't shown up yet..  ::MonkeyRoll::
They'd have to find the place first and that might be a bit beyond them ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:15:11 AM
This guy seems to be on the up and up. I sure hope so. IMO I don't think they would have paid for the snake pic.
Morning guys! It is actually late here in Oz so I'd love a coffee I intend to pull an all nighter lol! Re the pic I didn't think he would show a pic of the baby's remains but I do think that GMA really wanted an interview with him so they offered to pay for the pic of the snake to get him there. That way they weren't breaking their policy not to pay for interviews. JMHO

That makes sense sharlock..keeps everyone happy...also a rattlesnake pic is still valuable to the prosecution..it helps validate the story that the LE deputy didn't go far into the woods because of the snake... I'm pretty sure they are territorial...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:19:44 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:20:27 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: FloridaKatz on January 13, 2009, 08:21:06 AM


We're trying to figure out where the white house is in Hoovers Vid..
I want to find that house too, it's buggin the cr@p out of me. I'm scouring maps live of the area hoping to find it. Atleast I'm going to try. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack though, but not impossible!

Morning Monkeys !!  It may not be "beyond reasoning" for the PI's to think KC could have gone over the back fence of the house, through some neighbor yards behind them and ended up on Florence Harbor Street, which is the street that is behind Hopespring.  That street dead ends into that area of the woods where the remains were found as well.  So this mysterious abandonded house could be on that street ??





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:21:55 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

It was on GMA ,not Today. I left a short recap of his interview a few post back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: FloridaKatz on January 13, 2009, 08:22:55 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::


I've been watching since 7am Eastern this morning and haven't seen him yet !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:27:31 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.

Yes...I remember LP saying that it was 200 yards up the road..I'm sure he was ball parking it but that's a heck of a lot more than 12 feet...I wish I had seen who made that estimate on NG tonight..

Watch this video, it shows exactly where Dominic Casey claims he was searching:

http://www.youtube.com/v/gZRTi3AVEaU&hl=en&fs=1

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Monkey%20Em/monkeybump-1.gif)  for QM
sorry it took so long..thought it was in the other thread..shows you how good my memory is

I'd still like to know where the 12 feet came from on NG..gonna look but if someone knows off the top of their head...please explain TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:27:35 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::


I've been watching since 7am Eastern this morning and haven't seen him yet !

The whole interview only lasted a couple of minutes.....I think the most important thing was he did not call in the first 2 calls until 9:30 or 10:00 PM. Probably why they did not get checked out as thoroughly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:28:18 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV


Sea,It looks like coffee monkey has been taken hostage by Bud's girl.  ::MonkeyShocked:: We better get Sparky on the case.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

It was on GMA ,not Today. I left a short recap of his interview a few post back.

My bad..I get these shows mixed up and I don't have TV  ::MonkeyNoNo:: sry Shan


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:29:45 AM

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 ::MonkeyDance:: Good Morning Monkeys!! ::MonkeyDance::

I am way behind, I just jumped into the new cage!! May just skip the first 15 pages, I've been trying to catch up since last night!! Anything new this morning?? Here's some coffee too:
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Mmmm....



Good Morning QM.I watched the Tim Miller interview with GVS...Tim Miller ROCKS.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:30:47 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



I admit I was suspicious about the meter man since almost the beginning. But not because I believe he was involved in Caylees death, or about him finding her. I've just been suspicious about the previous calls etc. thinking maybe he was either tipped off or just overheard something & wasn't telling all he knew. I can't believe the defense is going to go there saying he took the bag. You've got to be kidding!!! He took it and held onto it for 4 months!! I find what the pi's did alot more suspicious. I find alot of people involved in the case & what they seem to know suspicious. Anyway, I really hope they are not really going to try that. Besides, if he really did take the bag, there would be evidence of it. I know LE can tell how long that bag was out there, and if it was tampered with in anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:32:05 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV


Sea,It looks like coffee monkey has been taken hostage by Bud's girl.  ::MonkeyShocked:: We better get Sparky on the case.  ::MonkeyCool::

forget Sparky...I'll track her down myself..   ::MonkeyRoll::

I better watch out for bud tho..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:38:33 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.


Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.

Yes...I remember LP saying that it was 200 yards up the road..I'm sure he was ball parking it but that's a heck of a lot more than 12 feet...I wish I had seen who made that estimate on NG tonight..

Watch this video, it shows exactly where Dominic Casey claims he was searching:

http://www.youtube.com/v/gZRTi3AVEaU&hl=en&fs=1

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Monkey%20Em/monkeybump-1.gif)  for QM
sorry it took so long..thought it was in the other thread..shows you how good my memory is

I'd still like to know where the 12 feet came from on NG..gonna look but if someone knows off the top of their head...please explain TIA

Thanks SS!! You're awesome. So is DC cooperating with LE? That's the impression I got. The defense can't say she wasn't there in Nov, if DC wasn't looking anywhere near where she was actually found, right??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 13, 2009, 08:38:35 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:41:41 AM
Man Who Found Caylee On Gma..(no video yet,that I could find)
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/13/man_who_found_caylee_on_39good_morning_america39.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:42:55 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....


(http://th205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/hilda530/monkey/th_hurt.gif) You don't have to tell me. I had all four done at the same time, and 12 shots of novacaine that barely worked!!

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
Does this helmet make me look fat??  ::MonkeyLaugh::

No, but it does make your butt look big! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyShocked::    ::MonkeyLaugh::    ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:44:31 AM
Greta VanSustern Transcript(interview with Tim Miller)

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/#



BUMP  BUMP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked::


Thanks MomofaMarine. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 08:46:49 AM
The lady Greta was interviewing before Tim said that the area on the video was not the exact area where Caylee was found.

Yepper.......I mentioned that a couple times since all the 'video hoopla' came about.

Yes...I remember LP saying that it was 200 yards up the road..I'm sure he was ball parking it but that's a heck of a lot more than 12 feet...I wish I had seen who made that estimate on NG tonight..

Watch this video, it shows exactly where Dominic Casey claims he was searching:

removed vid just to save space(it can be found in original post)

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Monkey%20Em/monkeybump-1.gif)  for QM
sorry it took so long..thought it was in the other thread..shows you how good my memory is

I'd still like to know where the 12 feet came from on NG..gonna look but if someone knows off the top of their head...please explain TIA
I think that if we should be cautious about beleiving D.Casey. The above was his claim and hasn't been confirmed by Hoover. However the large white paver that he is looking at clearly using as a marker and the way he opens every trashbag as if expecting to find something is strange. He only has a cursory look he knew exactly what he expected to see imo. The large white paver area is eerily like the description that Kronk was giving in his August calls which makes me think that this is where the body was for sure. It is possible it moved in the rain but I think it was right where D.C had been searching.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:47:56 AM
Has Kronk been on GMA yet?  Anyone know?? tia  or is he on the Today show per Sea Searcher????  I'm confused and it's only my first post of the day.....not gonna be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

It was on GMA ,not Today. I left a short recap of his interview a few post back.

My bad..I get these shows mixed up and I don't have TV  ::MonkeyNoNo:: sry Shan

No problem, SS, missed it anyway... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mioyshi on January 13, 2009, 08:51:23 AM
morning monkeys, did yalll read that >>-->>
Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.
now, what are the odds of a missing child being found by someone who has been accused of kidnapping???  mio



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:53:02 AM

Thanks SS!! You're awesome. So is DC cooperating with LE? That's the impression I got. The defense can't say she wasn't there in Nov, if DC wasn't looking anywhere near where she was actually found, right??? 

That's the was I read it...also Lenny said DC was searching way off the location...I think he said 200 yards trying to give a ball park estimate. He also said, in that same interview, that LE searched in that area but about 600 yards away..based on Kio's statements..either way, the bottom line is, they never found her and that area was under water which can be validated by several people...Gail St. John, The neighbor across the street and Tim Miller are three that come to mind.. defence is lost (as usual) on that one..  ::MonkeyRoll::

One sticky point for me is..was that area dry between July 16th and Fay...that is a very small area of woods to search and would have been top on my list if I was LE..I know it doesn't change the outcome but I can see Baez using it for his LE bashing defense..JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 08:53:51 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



I admit I was suspicious about the meter man since almost the beginning. But not because I believe he was involved in Caylees death, or about him finding her. I've just been suspicious about the previous calls etc. thinking maybe he was either tipped off or just overheard something & wasn't telling all he knew. I can't believe the defense is going to go there saying he took the bag. You've got to be kidding!!! He took it and held onto it for 4 months!! I find what the pi's did alot more suspicious. I find alot of people involved in the case & what they seem to know suspicious. Anyway, I really hope they are not really going to try that. Besides, if he really did take the bag, there would be evidence of it. I know LE can tell how long that bag was out there, and if it was tampered with in anyway.

I have a feeling that even if TM or a volunteer searcher searching with TM had found her they would have said the same thing. That may be why JB wants the volunteers info...He will point fingers at any and everyone he can to get "his girl" outta this. Sad how many people are getting their reputations trashed over what KC herself did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:54:27 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV


Sea,It looks like coffee monkey has been taken hostage by Bud's girl.  ::MonkeyShocked:: We better get Sparky on the case.  ::MonkeyCool::

forget Sparky...I'll track her down myself..   ::MonkeyRoll::

I better watch out for bud tho..  ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 13, 2009, 08:54:33 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Hhey! I am in Greenville


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:55:01 AM
Good Morning Monken....I tend to believe him. JMO. He seemed really sincere. I think the defense is just trying to find something to cause reaonable doubt.I honestly think LE and FBI have enough evidence to nail KC to the wall and also enough to charge several more people. Just wish they would get on with it. But I am sure they are making sure all T's are crossed and all i's are dotted and I can understand that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 08:55:26 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.


::MonkeyConfused::Oh Geeshhhhhh! Are there any good snipers in Orlando? I wish the defense would just SHUT THE H$LL UP.
I don't know where this guy has been. He is totally off on some of his info at the beginning of the tape so I didn't listen to all of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:56:37 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....


 :smt058  Hope you feel better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:57:18 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Hhey! I am in Greenville

Wow not far at all. My daughter is a nurse!
Sorry o/t. will be good. Promise


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 08:58:28 AM
O/T.... Hi Monken !!!

Klaas made us an Elvis thread in the lounge under music..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm gonna try and move our posts to it sometime today but I just wanted to let you know.. I have no idea how to give you a link but If I can find it, anyone can  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 08:58:52 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



I admit I was suspicious about the meter man since almost the beginning. But not because I believe he was involved in Caylees death, or about him finding her. I've just been suspicious about the previous calls etc. thinking maybe he was either tipped off or just overheard something & wasn't telling all he knew. I can't believe the defense is going to go there saying he took the bag. You've got to be kidding!!! He took it and held onto it for 4 months!! I find what the pi's did alot more suspicious. I find alot of people involved in the case & what they seem to know suspicious. Anyway, I really hope they are not really going to try that. Besides, if he really did take the bag, there would be evidence of it. I know LE can tell how long that bag was out there, and if it was tampered with in anyway.

I have a feeling that even if TM or a volunteer searcher searching with TM had found her they would have said the same thing. That may be why JB wants the volunteers info...He will point fingers at any and everyone he can to get "his girl" outta this. Sad how many people are getting their reputations trashed over what KC herself did.
Has anyone heard this before...Kronk taking the bag? I think that is defense bull. I think LE would not have said at the beginning(Carlos Padilla) that he is a good guy like they had already checked him out by the time we heard his name. HE said that I believe the same day Kronk gave a statement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:59:04 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::

Hi Monken, I watched the interview too. From what I got out of it, it seems he was being honest. At this point, they must have found out everything there is to find out about him. Don't see anything in his past having anything to do with finding Caylee, but in this case new things pop up out of the blue. I really hope the defense isn't going to try to pin something on him because he found the body. I guess they can try, but I don't see how they'll succeed unless they have concrete proof he did something, like move it or something. I don't see why anyone would think he moved or tampered with everything. I mean at worst, he may have taken pics before LE arrived, I hope not, but we'll have to wait and see about that. I kinda feel bad for him, a least a little bit. But, I truly hope he doesn't try to profit from this, beyond maybe getting some reward, and his travel expenses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:00:07 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/13/man_who_found_caylee_on_39good_morning_america39.html

Man Who Found Caylee On 'Good Morning America'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:00:21 AM
Good Morning Monken....I tend to believe him. JMO. He seemed really sincere. I think the defense is just trying to find something to cause reaonable doubt.I honestly think LE and FBI have enough evidence to nail KC to the wall and also enough to charge several more people. Just wish they would get on with it. But I am sure they are making sure all T's are crossed and all i's are dotted and I can understand that.


Hi, Darla, i do too. I wonder if it's the defense or the media that has brought all of this out about Kronk?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:00:48 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-011309,0,1353491.story?track=rss


Man who found Caylee Anthony's remains: Deputies made rushed search of area


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:01:33 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan/13/utility-worker-gma-i-had-nothing-do-caylees-death/news-breaking/


Utility Worker: I Had Nothing To Do With Caylee's Death


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....


(http://th205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/hilda530/monkey/th_hurt.gif) You don't have to tell me. I had all four done at the same time, and 12 shots of novacaine that barely worked!!

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:02:18 AM
O/T.... Hi Monken !!!

Klaas made us an Elvis thread in the lounge under music..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm gonna try and move our posts to it sometime today but I just wanted to let you know.. I have no idea how to give you a link but If I can find it, anyone can  ::MonkeyHaHa::


WooHoo!!  ::MonkeyDance:: That's great! i didn't know that. And i don't know how to move posts so thank you!! And I'll find it!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV

I'm not awake, you don't see me.  GMA interview is here:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18468226/detail.html

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pinkbanana on January 13, 2009, 09:04:41 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::




Good Morning Friend  ::MonkeyWink::

I believe him too.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:04:57 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV

I'm not awake, you don't see me.  GMA interview is here:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18468226/detail.html

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:05:56 AM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told
I thought I had missed the picture.  I turned on my television at 7:05.  I don't believe they paid him $20,000 for a picture of a snake.  I think he did take a picture and it will come out at a later date.  Someone involved read here again.  Sorry for being so cynical.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:07:50 AM
I'm not here, you don't see me OR.......ELVIS  ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:08:51 AM
Good Morning Monken....I tend to believe him. JMO. He seemed really sincere. I think the defense is just trying to find something to cause reaonable doubt.I honestly think LE and FBI have enough evidence to nail KC to the wall and also enough to charge several more people. Just wish they would get on with it. But I am sure they are making sure all T's are crossed and all i's are dotted and I can understand that.

I agree Darla.He seemed like an ok guy.Seemed sincere..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:09:47 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::

Hi Monken, I watched the interview too. From what I got out of it, it seems he was being honest. At this point, they must have found out everything there is to find out about him. Don't see anything in his past having anything to do with finding Caylee, but in this case new things pop up out of the blue. I really hope the defense isn't going to try to pin something on him because he found the body. I guess they can try, but I don't see how they'll succeed unless they have concrete proof he did something, like move it or something. I don't see why anyone would think he moved or tampered with everything. I mean at worst, he may have taken pics before LE arrived, I hope not, but we'll have to wait and see about that. I kinda feel bad for him, a least a little bit. But, I truly hope he doesn't try to profit from this, beyond maybe getting some reward, and his travel expenses.


hey Quiet  ::MonkeyRoll:: I don't think he has any thing to do with it either! The only picture i saw was of a rattlesnake & it looked like it was in the bed of a pickup, maybe  ::MonkeyEek::
He could have taken pictures of what he found though with a phone & LE may even know that & have them. But once he has a picture there's no way to know if he has a copy somewhere!

He said there was water where the bag was!  ::MonkeyShocked:: To me that sounds like the bag was visible but they didn't go to it because of the water!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: FloridaKatz on January 13, 2009, 09:10:01 AM
Mysterious White House where PI Searched ???

Check this out.  This house is the 7th house from the corner of Suburban and HopeSpring, the house is white, appears to be a little overgrown, AND, has a white shed that sits way back on the back of the property line, literally in the woods.  Looks to be about 300+ ft. from where the remains were found.  The shed is white.  Could have been the shed that DC was looking around, cutting up the bags at :

(http://)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 09:10:06 AM

 
Would you like some coffee while we deliberate on the matter ?



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Morning Monkeys!  Sea Searcher:  Could I have a shot of espresso in my coffee, I stayed up too late!  Sleepy sleepy sleepy monkey here!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
Have to give the computer over to hubby in a minute but just read NG transcipts and there is that woman's name again....Joy Wray. OMG! She might get interviewed by LE now considering she supposedly has admitted she was talking to DC at some time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:11:22 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Awww.  I hope you feel better soon.   I know it hurts.     ::MonkeyWaa::
I had all four of mine taken out on the same day - and missed a whole week of work!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:11:24 AM
O/T.... Hi Monken !!!

Klaas made us an Elvis thread in the lounge under music..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm gonna try and move our posts to it sometime today but I just wanted to let you know.. I have no idea how to give you a link but If I can find it, anyone can  ::MonkeyHaHa::


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:11:59 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV

I'm not awake, you don't see me.  GMA interview is here:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18468226/detail.html

 ::MonkeyCool::


Isn't it like 5:00 am where you are!!?? How do you get up so early!!??  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 09:13:04 AM

(http://th375.photobucket.com/albums/oo192/teamjonascullen/th_WAVING12.gif)

I am way behind, I just jumped into the new cage!! May just skip the first 15 pages, I've been trying to catch up since last night!! Anything new this morning?? Here's some coffee too:



Mornin' QM..

Not too much...

There's a good video from Fox that Klaas posted about the location of DC's search..

We're trying to figure out where the white house is in Hoovers Vid..

Kronk is on the Today show....Today   ::MonkeyWink::

Sparky is actually a beautiful lady and not a terrier..   ::MonkeyRoll::

HH's daughter has a terrific voice..  ::MonkeyCool::

Deenie thinks I have a big heart..

Klaas made an Elvis thread for us fans..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

and you're still not allowed to use my coffee monkey...  ::MonkeyTongue::

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww shucks.  Thanks, SS, and I agree with Deenie you DO have a big heart!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:14:31 AM
O/T.... Hi Monken !!!

Klaas made us an Elvis thread in the lounge under music..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm gonna try and move our posts to it sometime today but I just wanted to let you know.. I have no idea how to give you a link but If I can find it, anyone can  ::MonkeyHaHa::


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0

 ::MonkeyDance::


Thanks Trimm!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 09:14:40 AM
Kathy Beleich (sp.) said on NG last night that the abandoned house was not in walking distance of crime scene. That you would need to drive there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 09:15:47 AM
O/T.... Hi Monken !!!

Klaas made us an Elvis thread in the lounge under music..  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm gonna try and move our posts to it sometime today but I just wanted to let you know.. I have no idea how to give you a link but If I can find it, anyone can  ::MonkeyHaHa::


WooHoo!!  ::MonkeyDance:: That's great! i didn't know that. And i don't know how to move posts so thank you!! And I'll find it!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Me neither but I'm gonna give it my best shot.. I have an idea as to how.. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:16:17 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6635329

GMA video interview with Kronk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:16:20 AM
Have to give the computer over to hubby in a minute but just read NG transcipts and there is that woman's name again....Joy Wray. OMG! She might get interviewed by LE now considering she supposedly has admitted she was talking to DC at some time.


I know that woman is everywhere.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hurry back when you can.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::




Good Morning Friend  ::MonkeyWink::

I believe him too.

pb

Hi, Pink!!  ::MonkeyRoll:: Did you get to see it? I believe him too, although his answers did seem kind of rehearsed! Don't think he wanted to screw up on national tv!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 09:17:59 AM
Good Morning SS.....Are we the only ones up this early?

Good Morning...I think there's a few of us but Trimm's on the treadmill, staying trim
and I think QM is trying to catch up...

Are you watching the Today show??? I hope someone can post a vid..I don't have TV


Sea,It looks like coffee monkey has been taken hostage by Bud's girl.  ::MonkeyShocked:: We better get Sparky on the case.  ::MonkeyCool::

forget Sparky...I'll track her down myself..   ::MonkeyRoll::

I better watch out for bud tho..  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 09:18:51 AM
My opinion of Kronk....  He did a good thing and is now being used to create reasonable doubt.  I believe him.  I have no reason not to.  He has brought out the dirt on himself just so that no one else would find it out.   I feel bad for him.  If he gets a reward for doing it, then he actually deserves it.  I can't imagine finding a body.  HE did a good thing.  ANd his reputation will now be slandered everywehere by people trying to pin a conspiracy on him.

Did Casey want Caylee found?  No.  She would not have sent out a search party for Caylee, even through a daisy chain.  That would not help her in any way.  In fact, finding Caylee is the best thing for the prosecution yet.

Did the PI's go out and look for Caylee's body?  Yes.  He was looking and working for the GP.  I hope his idea was to put her to rest.  Now, it is unclear what the motives are of these 2 PI's because one wants to make money and the other wants to deny everything.  And DC's lies are really bad.  He is not good at sticking to a story. 

Tim Miller is still the man. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
I'm not here, you don't see me OR.......ELVIS  ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4383.0

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I actually have a video tape of the "Live Elvis conspiracy theory" it's amusing but I don't buy into it..

Thanks for posting the link  ::MonkeyCool:: while you weren't here  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:20:42 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479750,00.html

New Video Surfaces in Caylee Anthony Case


http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3440674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html


Caught on tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:21:43 AM
Kathy Beleich (sp.) said on NG last night that the abandoned house was not in walking distance of crime scene. That you would need to drive there.

hmmm.  Maybe it is the Ovieda house, then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mioyshi on January 13, 2009, 09:22:28 AM
ORLANDO -- The Orange County meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony is telling his story to the nation.

Roy Kronk, who found the remains in December, was interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America" Tuesday.

Kronk has been questioned by investigators, but he is not considered to be connected with Caylee's disappearance.

Kronk said that he first saw a suspicious bag in August while he was working his route. He said he called police three days in a row, and that when he was finally met by a deputy and pointed it out, the deputy said he couldn't see it.

Kronk claimed that the deputy didn't want to investigate further because the area was underwater at the time and because the area was infested by snakes. He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter helped him to recognize that something was not right.

According to Kronk, after the discovery, his life has been turned upside-down.

"They've been really hard on me. You try to do the right thing, you try to be a nice guy and you just get vilified. The sad thing is people actually believe some of the things being said.  I have nothing to do with this at all, but you listen to some of these conspiracy theories -- 'I've done everything known to mankind' -- I haven't done anything. I just tried to help put a  little closure to that poor child and she got a decent burial to end all this. That's all I tried to do," Kronk said.

Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.

Kronk's appearance comes as Orange County investigators confirmed they have obtained a video, reportedly taken in November, of private investigators searching in the wooded area near the spot where Kronk eventually found Caylee's remains.

Jim Hoover, a private investigator who used to work for Caylee's grandparents, shot the video.

Hoover said the 10-minute tape speaks for itself. He did not make any further comments.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the video shows Dominic Casey, another private investigator, walking through the woods, poking into bags and talking on a cell phone. It does not show the discovery of any human remains.

The video was shot almost a month before Kronk found the girl's remains.

The Sheriff's Office did not release the tape.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 09:22:28 AM
Oh yeah,

I forgot to say that KC did this, she dumped the body herself.  Kronk said it himself, the swamp stinks.  Good place to hide a body.  It doesn't sound like the police actually inspected his claims either.  Just kinda scanned.

Casey was just lucky Caylee wasn't found before. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:22:38 AM
Kronk to get paid $20,000 for interview



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3jJ2Csmx0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 09:24:55 AM

 ::MonkeyWaa::

I just worded that wrong..what I meant was..I don't want to burden Sparky....  ::MonkeyRoll::

I'm going to take a shower before I get into trouble...  ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Sparky !

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:28:04 AM
I agree that in Kronk's interview he sounded truthful.  I want to believe that he is an honest concerned citizen doing a good deed.  He is the one that found that precious baby.  After this interview I do believe him.  However, I just don't know if I believe that GMA paid him $20,000 for a picture of a snake.  It's hard to know who is being honest in this case anymore so I will reserve judement on him until we know more or until the trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 09:28:16 AM
Last night on NG, (or was it JVM?) somebody said that Kronk had said that during the period of time when Kronk was assigned to that area but didn't look, it was because he wasn't really concerned about the case or that the body (or whatever it was he thought he found) wasn't important at the time. So... he went there specifically to call about it how many times, yet we're to believe there was a time when he wasn't concerned about it?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 09:28:53 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Hhey! I am in Greenville

OOOOOOOOOhhhhh, Nikki, you're making me cringe. I had all 4 of mine done in the hospital (long ago) under a general and had next to no pain so I went right back to work. They sent me home because I had 2 black eyes and a bunch of other bruises - ugly - so I can imagine how painful it was. I looked like I had been in a car wreck for about 10 days. I hope you're recuperating.

Morning Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:29:42 AM
My opinion of Kronk....  He did a good thing and is now being used to create reasonable doubt.  I believe him.  I have no reason not to.  He has brought out the dirt on himself just so that no one else would find it out.   I feel bad for him.  If he gets a reward for doing it, then he actually deserves it.  I can't imagine finding a body.  HE did a good thing.  ANd his reputation will now be slandered everywehere by people trying to pin a conspiracy on him.

Did Casey want Caylee found?  No.  She would not have sent out a search party for Caylee, even through a daisy chain.  That would not help her in any way.  In fact, finding Caylee is the best thing for the prosecution yet.

Did the PI's go out and look for Caylee's body?  Yes.  He was looking and working for the GP.  I hope his idea was to put her to rest.  Now, it is unclear what the motives are of these 2 PI's because one wants to make money and the other wants to deny everything.  And DC's lies are really bad.  He is not good at sticking to a story. 

Tim Miller is still the man. 




i was so proud watching Tim last night. he is determined that the defense will not get his records & will fight them tooth & nail! There is no telling what the defense would do to some of the searchers if they could get their hands on the info! Look at what's happened to anyone that is remotely involved!
i too, believe Kronk, based on his interview & I do think he deserves the reward, why not!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:30:49 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:34:22 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 09:35:13 AM
ORLANDO -- The Orange County meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony is telling his story to the nation.

Roy Kronk, who found the remains in December, was interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America" Tuesday.

Kronk has been questioned by investigators, but he is not considered to be connected with Caylee's disappearance.

Kronk said that he first saw a suspicious bag in August while he was working his route. He said he called police three days in a row, and that when he was finally met by a deputy and pointed it out, the deputy said he couldn't see it.

Kronk claimed that the deputy didn't want to investigate further because the area was underwater at the time and because the area was infested by snakes. He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter helped him to recognize that something was not right.

According to Kronk, after the discovery, his life has been turned upside-down.

"They've been really hard on me. You try to do the right thing, you try to be a nice guy and you just get vilified. The sad thing is people actually believe some of the things being said.  I have nothing to do with this at all, but you listen to some of these conspiracy theories -- 'I've done everything known to mankind' -- I haven't done anything. I just tried to help put a  little closure to that poor child and she got a decent burial to end all this. That's all I tried to do," Kronk said.

Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.

Kronk's appearance comes as Orange County investigators confirmed they have obtained a video, reportedly taken in November, of private investigators searching in the wooded area near the spot where Kronk eventually found Caylee's remains.

Jim Hoover, a private investigator who used to work for Caylee's grandparents, shot the video.

Hoover said the 10-minute tape speaks for itself. He did not make any further comments.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the video shows Dominic Casey, another private investigator, walking through the woods, poking into bags and talking on a cell phone. It does not show the discovery of any human remains.

The video was shot almost a month before Kronk found the girl's remains.

The Sheriff's Office did not release the tape.



"He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter..."

Anybody have any idea what that means? The Coast Guard has bail bondsman and bounty hunters? News to me... I wonder if the "has" shouldn't be AND AS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 09:35:54 AM


i was so proud watching Tim last night. he is determined that the defense will not get his records & will fight them tooth & nail! There is no telling what the defense would do to some of the searchers if they could get their hands on the info! Look at what's happened to anyone that is remotely involved!
i too, believe Kronk, based on his interview & I do think he deserves the reward, why not!
[/quote]

I am so glad that Tim has Mark in this with him.  Mark has been through many stages and seen from a lot of angles.  He also is the best Lawyer involved in this case. 

About Kronk and the reward.  Why would a crimeline even offer a reward if they didn't want to give it out.  Why should the public villianize him for taking a reward that a crimeline publicizes? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 09:37:25 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Um  Ok.  So is there evidence of decomp in KRONK's vehicle?  Oh wait.  Nope.  Just Casey's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:39:57 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mioyshi on January 13, 2009, 09:40:49 AM
 
"Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged. "
 
this is the part that interest me   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:41:20 AM


i was so proud watching Tim last night. he is determined that the defense will not get his records & will fight them tooth & nail! There is no telling what the defense would do to some of the searchers if they could get their hands on the info! Look at what's happened to anyone that is remotely involved!
i too, believe Kronk, based on his interview & I do think he deserves the reward, why not!

I am so glad that Tim has Mark in this with him.  Mark has been through many stages and seen from a lot of angles.  He also is the best Lawyer involved in this case. 

About Kronk and the reward.  Why would a crimeline even offer a reward if they didn't want to give it out.  Why should the public villianize him for taking a reward that a crimeline publicizes? 
[/quote]

That's right, they need to just give it to him!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 09:41:42 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

I hope they're (Fox "jounalists" - HA! HA!) are all on the defense payroll. If they are all working pro bono, shame on Whorealdo, Greta, and all the minor players like Napolitano. My hubby watches Fox News a lot during the day and it makes me want to barf most days and I'm not even really listening to it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:41:54 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kimmy2 on January 13, 2009, 09:43:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys..i just wanna say i believe kronk's story too and Darla im just outside of Lan.county..just wanted to say hello neighbor :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:43:54 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/1067.jpg)

  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 09:43:55 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Um  Ok.  So is there evidence of decomp in KRONK's vehicle?  Oh wait.  Nope.  Just Casey's.


Exactly.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:44:50 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Darla, r u in PA?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:45:26 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/1067.jpg)

Cool Picture Trim!      ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 09:47:47 AM
Good Morning Monkeys..i just wanna say i believe kronk's story too and Darla im just outside of Lan.county..just wanted to say hello neighbor :-)
Hi Kimmy! Small world

I think Kronk should be given the reward. If not for him that sweet baby would still be in the swamp. It is bad enough that Casey murdered her, but to leave her in the swamps with the snakes and animals for 6 months is just more than my heart can handle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 13, 2009, 09:47:52 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6635329
Roy K interview tis morning..
GMA..not sure how long this link will be good...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Darla, r u in PA?
No Shan, South Carolina


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:50:06 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18468245/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer Says Kronk May Help Defense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:50:26 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yeah.  I watched Dr. B last night on Greta.  I'm sick of seeing him - working the defense for his wife every night on Fox.   The bones were scattered over an acre of land - no way contained in the bag.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 09:51:29 AM
Well, if Baez get Tim's records, Nejame should be able to prove that the Anthonys planted people within TES to not only "spy" for them, but to mislead people as to which areas to search in.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 09:51:34 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kimmy2 on January 13, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
Good Morning Monkeys..i just wanna say i believe kronk's story too and Darla im just outside of Lan.county..just wanted to say hello neighbor :-)
Hi Kimmy! Small world

I think Kronk should be given the reward. If not for him that sweet baby would still be in the swamp. It is bad enough that Casey murdered her, but to leave her in the swamps with the snakes and animals for 6 months is just more than my heart can handle.




i agree darla..he did alot more than any of her family..he FOUND her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 09:52:35 AM
Last night on NG, (or was it JVM?) somebody said that Kronk had said that during the period of time when Kronk was assigned to that area but didn't look, it was because he wasn't really concerned about the case or that the body (or whatever it was he thought he found) wasn't important at the time. So... he went there specifically to call about it how many times, yet we're to believe there was a time when he wasn't concerned about it?  ::MonkeyConfused::
I can beleive that. I get so worked up with some of the cases I follow there are times where I can be glued to the pc and on the hunt for days at a time but you just can't keep that kind of momentum going if the problem isn't directly related to you your family or your work because life takes over imo. He didn't forget about it totally though and we should be greatful for that I think. I am more concerned about the Anthony's reaction than Hoover or Kronk.
Why when they have allowed no mention of Caylee's possible passing prior to her discovery are they now saying that they totally support D.Casey in what he has done and they are ONLY angry with Hoover becasue he is releasing THEIR property to make money. D.casey can't even back them with this claim because he is publicly stating that Hoover was not working for him that day and is not employed by him. That means that technically he was following up on something that concerned him on his own time and not while working for the Anthony's imo.  By showing this support for D.C. it is equivalent to them stating that he has something on them and they are counting on his silence to prevent this from hurting Casey's defense imo. He was with them that day with Hoover I beleive others have reported at a function talking to the A's and Lee but he supposedly told them nothing about poking around in the woods just up the road from their home looking for a dead Caylee and they are OK with this?????  ::MonkeyEek::
That is what doesn't add up in my mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 09:55:09 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

I hope they're (Fox "jounalists" - HA! HA!) are all on the defense payroll. If they are all working pro bono, shame on Whorealdo, Greta, and all the minor players like Napolitano. My hubby watches Fox News a lot during the day and it makes me want to barf most days and I'm not even really listening to it.

God, I'm glad my husband doesn't watch Fox.   And, he can't stand Whoraldo - and when I put him on at night - my hubby leaves the room.  My husband spent 29 years in the Navy - thinks Whoraldo is a worthless POS.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
ok, Here's what I have so far this morning:  (i'm sure I forgot something)

- Darla, thanks for the Kronk Interview post, very informative, since I missed it!!   ::MonkeyWink::

-SS, looks like you lost "coffee monkey"  Hope Bud Girl returns it soon.  ::MonkeyEek::

-Nikki, I've had my wisdom teeth out, as well.  I was "knocked out" though as it required surgery to "dig them outta my gums"  YEAH, IT HURTS....sorry you're dealing with that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
-QuietMonkey, your coffee always looks so delicious every morning.  ::MonkeyDance::

-Trim, since you're on the treadmill this morning, maybe you're feeling better???  Hope so.

OK, think I'm caught up now and ready for some good news today!!!  Maybe the A's will be arrested, maybe KC will finally confess...ahhh, wishful thinkin, I know...!!! ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:57:37 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Um  Ok.  So is there evidence of decomp in KRONK's vehicle?  Oh wait.  Nope.  Just Casey's.
I think this Judge N is just trying to get yet another theory out there.  I won't watch Fox anymore.  However, I wanted to hear TM since JB mentioned getting records from him.  I missed him last night by the time I found out he was on.  Go Tim and stand your ground.  I'm glad MN is his attorney as I think he knows most of the players involved in this case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:57:49 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

Thanks for posting these MomofaMarine  ::MonkeyWink::  By the way, I believe the video above is the one where Lee's attorney shows what an idiot he is.  This case is not short of idiots working for free.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 09:59:21 AM
Good Morning, it is hard for me to believe Good Morning America paid for a picture of a snake. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 09:59:29 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: MomofaMarine on January 13, 2009, 10:00:57 AM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/01/13/ng.secret.tape.cnn


Did D. Casey know where body was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 10:01:04 AM

"Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged. "
 
this is the part that interest me   
I think we can put that one to bed now mioyshi. He was reported for kidnapping from a disgruntled boyfrind of one of his ex girlfreinds who had asked him to help her and come and get her. It was thrown out by a grandjury and I remember before Caseys grand jury people was saying they aren't important because a ham sandwich can be indited by a grand jury. Must have been a very weak case imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::

Morning Monken!
I missed Kronk's interview this morning, but reading what you saw on it, maybe there isnt anything negative about him, after all.  Maybe we all got bad vibes because everyone else in this case is a liar and a mooch???  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 10:02:32 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Um  Ok.  So is there evidence of decomp in KRONK's vehicle?  Oh wait.  Nope.  Just Casey's.

Oh I can hear it now....since the car was abandoned at Amscot ANYONE could have had access to it so no proof Casey put her in there   ::MonkeyConfused::

BTW - were there any video cameras of the Amscot parking lot? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 10:03:21 AM

"Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged. "
 
this is the part that interest me   
I think we can put that one to bed now mioyshi. He was reported for kidnapping from a disgruntled boyfrind of one of his ex girlfreinds who had asked him to help her and come and get her. It was thrown out by a grandjury and I remember before Caseys grand jury people was saying they aren't important because a ham sandwich can be indited by a grand jury. Must have been a very weak case imo.
Sorry still getting used to these quote stacks ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:03:55 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.

That's hilarious!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I don't think he has a clue either. Where did he get that that is the defense theory though? I haven't heard that at all!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:07:13 AM
What did Baden say about the metal rod that DC was shoving into the ground?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:08:41 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yeah.  I watched Dr. B last night on Greta.  I'm sick of seeing him - working the defense for his wife every night on Fox.   The bones were scattered over an acre of land - no way contained in the bag.   

That's what i thought too, Sassy, but we had someone post here yesterday that said their husband went to the site after it was cleared & that it was surprising how small the grid area was! Something like 30 ft. by 30 ft. Then Baden says the remains were almost completely contained in the bag! Wonder just what they found outside the bag? If all of this is so, then not much except for maybe items from the house??!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:09:57 AM
What did Baden say about the metal rod that DC was shoving into the ground?

That it was a forensics tool used to find buried bodies! That you can tell when you hit bone.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 10:10:51 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Instead of just boycotting certain people/shows,why not boycott fox?? seems FOX is in bed with Baez and company... see how they like being boycotted..Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 13, 2009, 10:12:44 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

Thanks for posting these MomofaMarine  ::MonkeyWink::  By the way, I believe the video above is the one where Lee's attorney shows what an idiot he is.  This case is not short of idiots working for free.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning everyone !!!  Had to chime in on this video.  This lawyer is lying !!  Watch the video again and watch the LONG blinks of his eyes when he says Lee has had limited contact with Dominic Casey.  Then he appears to be telling the truth (from his facial expressions) when he says he was hired to defend Lee against any Aiding, Abetting, and Obstruction charges.  You can always tell when someone is lying and this guy is lying


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:12:53 AM
What did Baden say about the metal rod that DC was shoving into the ground?

That it was a forensics tool used to find buried bodies! That you can tell when you hit bone.  ::MonkeyEek::

Did he take a class is recovering bodies?  How did he learn to use such a sophisticated tool?  To me it just looked like DC was ramming it into the ground.  He could have used a regular stick to do that.  He is an idiot.
I hope that guy gets charged with something so he does turn states evidence an gives all info he has on whoever told him to go there. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mioyshi on January 13, 2009, 10:13:29 AM

"Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged. "
 
this is the part that interest me   
I think we can put that one to bed now mioyshi. He was reported for kidnapping from a disgruntled boyfrind of one of his ex girlfreinds who had asked him to help her and come and get her. It was thrown out by a grandjury and I remember before Caseys grand jury people was saying they aren't important because a ham sandwich can be indited by a grand jury. Must have been a very weak case imo.

hey thanks,,,,,as I somehow must have missed this info....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 10:13:30 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

T/Y for this and the other links to videos. I watched all of them and feel like I am sort of caught up on some of what has gone on recently. I do appreciate your supplying a place for us to check out the stuff we didn't have an opportunity to see.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
Good morning everyone.  I see Sea has moved up from kitty cats to pretty red heads.  And Bud's girl - yowsa!!!!  I had a dream last nite that three angels came to me and they were each carrying a silver platter - I have no idea what that means, but I hope it is good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

You're right Ann, I don't know why he called so late; except...if he waited until he got off work; in the summertime down there it is around 9:00 or so before it gets dark! Maybe they work longer hours & shorter weeks during the summer because it's daylight for so long? i don't know.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Instead of just boycotting certain people/shows,why not boycott fox?? seems FOX is in bed with Baez and company... see how they like being boycotted..Just a thought.
Exactly!!  I don't watch Fox anymore and I also wrote them and told them that having Dr. Baden on is a conflict of interest and that everyone knows that Whorealdo is buddies with Baez (not those exact words).  I told them I would not watch them anymore and will boycott thier sponsers too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
What did Baden say about the metal rod that DC was shoving into the ground?
It was a forensic tool, to look for a body that was buried.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:18:20 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

I gotta say, I USED to watch FOX all the time and I looked forward to Judge N.'s opinions on cases.  He was always informative.  BUT, he is GOOD FRIENDS WITH GERALDO, so maybe there is a connection there??? just sayin.  Yes, FOX is just another on the list of the BAD, in this case.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:20:51 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::

Morning Monken!
I missed Kronk's interview this morning, but reading what you saw on it, maybe there isnt anything negative about him, after all.  Maybe we all got bad vibes because everyone else in this case is a liar and a mooch???  JMO

Hey, Shan, there are links to it further down the posts if you want to see it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: DayOldDonuts on January 13, 2009, 10:21:06 AM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!
I just heard that. ::MonkeyEek::

I missed this...so is it verified that he was using a DNA probe? Or were they just saying IF he was using a DNA probe.  Or is it some other type of probe altogether?   TIA!   

Bumping my own question.  I'm sorry, but I can't find a link to this video. 

It really seems that he is looking for something (like a cell phone or weapon?).  You would think if he was looking for a body that he would have on gloves and be a little (okay, a LOT) more careful but I'm probably giving him too much credit.  Plus, he says "IT" should be here.  If she was so close, and he didn't disturb that bag, was it because he knew that was her and he was looking for something else?  Whatever incriminating evidence that says Casey killed Caylee intentionally (even though cause of death can't be determined) and that she acted alone?  Makes me wonder...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:23:08 AM
My opinion of Kronk....  He did a good thing and is now being used to create reasonable doubt.  I believe him.  I have no reason not to.  He has brought out the dirt on himself just so that no one else would find it out.   I feel bad for him.  If he gets a reward for doing it, then he actually deserves it.  I can't imagine finding a body.  HE did a good thing.  ANd his reputation will now be slandered everywehere by people trying to pin a conspiracy on him.

Did Casey want Caylee found?  No.  She would not have sent out a search party for Caylee, even through a daisy chain.  That would not help her in any way.  In fact, finding Caylee is the best thing for the prosecution yet.

Did the PI's go out and look for Caylee's body?  Yes.  He was looking and working for the GP.  I hope his idea was to put her to rest.  Now, it is unclear what the motives are of these 2 PI's because one wants to make money and the other wants to deny everything.  And DC's lies are really bad.  He is not good at sticking to a story. 

Tim Miller is still the man. 




ITA Perri.  I gotta say though, I didnt really know what Tim Miller was all about until I came here.  I have watched his interviews and looked up some information on him and I agree with the rest of the monkeys, HE'S AWESOME.  He is very sincere and caring and is definitely out there looking for children, BECAUSE HE CARES ABOUT THEM!  I'm impressed with him and everything I've read about him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 10:23:16 AM
ok, Here's what I have so far this morning:  (i'm sure I forgot something)

- Darla, thanks for the Kronk Interview post, very informative, since I missed it!!   ::MonkeyWink::

-SS, looks like you lost "coffee monkey"  Hope Bud Girl returns it soon.  ::MonkeyEek::

-Nikki, I've had my wisdom teeth out, as well.  I was "knocked out" though as it required surgery to "dig them outta my gums"  YEAH, IT HURTS....sorry you're dealing with that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
-QuietMonkey, your coffee always looks so delicious every morning.  ::MonkeyDance::

-Trim, since you're on the treadmill this morning, maybe you're feeling better???  Hope so.

OK, think I'm caught up now and ready for some good news today!!!  Maybe the A's will be arrested, maybe KC will finally confess...ahhh, wishful thinkin, I know...!!! ::MonkeyWaa::




Hey Shan.  ::MonkeyDance::  Treadmill was bad idea. Stayed on 10 minutes and chest was on fire,coughing my head off.Skipping that for a couple more days.But I do feel better.
Have you watched the Kronk video yet? I watched Tim Miller on Greta and Tim Miller ROCKS.
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
What did Baden say about the metal rod that DC was shoving into the ground?

That it was a forensics tool used to find buried bodies! That you can tell when you hit bone.  ::MonkeyEek::

Did he take a class is recovering bodies?  How did he learn to use such a sophisticated tool?  To me it just looked like DC was ramming it into the ground.  He could have used a regular stick to do that.  He is an idiot.
I hope that guy gets charged with something so he does turn states evidence an gives all info he has on whoever told him to go there. 


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I doubt very seriously that he knew what the hell he was doing! They are all idiots as far as I'm concerned!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: jr on January 13, 2009, 10:24:26 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 10:24:48 AM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 13, 2009, 10:26:06 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

Good Morning Monks..old and new!  Ann, I am in complete agreement with you.....the reveal about when those first 2 calls were made was news to me and gave me reason to go ummmmmm about him once again. I didn't know about the 2 day off thing......I know most are feeling better about him....but this interview has simply raised mew questions in my mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 10:27:05 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

I would e-mail NeJame (sp) since he is helping TM out. That way not only will it not over burden TM but will also give NeJame a little bit of something if it goes to the court room. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
Good morning everyone.  I see Sea has moved up from kitty cats to pretty red heads.  And Bud's girl - yowsa!!!!  I had a dream last nite that three angels came to me and they were each carrying a silver platter - I have no idea what that means, but I hope it is good.

but but but but....she was a terrier, I swear  ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning pretty kitty...maybe it's a sign that your going to move in with Dolce and get your very own driver  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:27:35 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

I don't think it is necessary.  Tim is not going to turn it over.  Period.  I think emailing Baez would be better.  Over burden HIM for a change with paperwork!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 10:27:49 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.

That's hilarious!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I don't think he has a clue either. Where did he get that that is the defense theory though? I haven't heard that at all!!


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Klaas is so subtle isn't she.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:28:35 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?
I wasn't able to search since I'm so far away but for what it's worth I think that maybe someone could either call or email TES and ask them if that would help or burden them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:28:39 AM
ORLANDO -- The Orange County meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony is telling his story to the nation.

Roy Kronk, who found the remains in December, was interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America" Tuesday.

Kronk has been questioned by investigators, but he is not considered to be connected with Caylee's disappearance.

Kronk said that he first saw a suspicious bag in August while he was working his route. He said he called police three days in a row, and that when he was finally met by a deputy and pointed it out, the deputy said he couldn't see it.

Kronk claimed that the deputy didn't want to investigate further because the area was underwater at the time and because the area was infested by snakes. He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter helped him to recognize that something was not right.

According to Kronk, after the discovery, his life has been turned upside-down.

"They've been really hard on me. You try to do the right thing, you try to be a nice guy and you just get vilified. The sad thing is people actually believe some of the things being said.  I have nothing to do with this at all, but you listen to some of these conspiracy theories -- 'I've done everything known to mankind' -- I haven't done anything. I just tried to help put a  little closure to that poor child and she got a decent burial to end all this. That's all I tried to do," Kronk said.

Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.

Kronk's appearance comes as Orange County investigators confirmed they have obtained a video, reportedly taken in November, of private investigators searching in the wooded area near the spot where Kronk eventually found Caylee's remains.

Jim Hoover, a private investigator who used to work for Caylee's grandparents, shot the video.

Hoover said the 10-minute tape speaks for itself. He did not make any further comments.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the video shows Dominic Casey, another private investigator, walking through the woods, poking into bags and talking on a cell phone. It does not show the discovery of any human remains.

The video was shot almost a month before Kronk found the girl's remains.

The Sheriff's Office did not release the tape.



Thanks for posting this Mio, very appreciated.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 13, 2009, 10:29:20 AM
Good morning Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

After watching this PI looking through the woods searching for Caylee,I get disturbed...What if he had found her?What was his plan?If he worked for the A's,it couldn't of been good.I wonder if it was said that if they found her,get rid of her.Just doesn't make sense.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:29:57 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

Good Morning Monks..old and new!  Ann, I am in complete agreement with you.....the reveal about when those first 2 calls were made was news to me and gave me reason to go ummmmmm about him once again. I didn't know about the 2 day off thing......I know most are feeling better about him....but this interview has simply raised mew questions in my mind.
Me too Sunny. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:30:32 AM

Oh I can hear it now....since the car was abandoned at Amscot ANYONE could have had access to it so no proof Casey put her in there   ::MonkeyConfused::

BTW - were there any video cameras of the Amscot parking lot? 

Good Morning Leroy..

Early on a poster (I think Carpe) put a pic on here of the front doors at Amscot..it showed 4 cameras one of which was pointed at the dumpster area IIRC

I have no idea if LE has the video from it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 10:31:23 AM
KRONK's full interview on GMA today. It's in photobucket, just click on the picture below:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 13, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

jr....have no fear ....Tim will not turn over personal information....IMO Tim will NEVER turn over anything to anyone...especially BJ......... and I don't believe there is anyone or thing on this earth that can make him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:32:17 AM
Good morning Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

After watching this PI looking through the woods searching for Caylee,I get disturbed...What if he had found her?What was his plan?If he worked for the A's,it couldn't of been good.I wonder if it was said that if they found her,get rid of her.Just doesn't make sense.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is a good question, he certainly wasn't being cautious the way he was using the probe, his knife, and that little shovel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 10:33:13 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
Amscot is a checking cashing place where Casey left her car in the parking lot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:34:59 AM
KRONK's full interview on GMA today. It's in photobucket, just click on the picture below:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)


Hey Shan here it is!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
Personally, I can't stand FOX.  I want to barf every time I hear them refer to themselves as being "fair and balanced."  I also hate it when they call themselves "unbiased" because I believe they're just about as biased as you can be!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 10:36:41 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yeah.  I watched Dr. B last night on Greta.  I'm sick of seeing him - working the defense for his wife every night on Fox.   The bones were scattered over an acre of land - no way contained in the bag.   

That's what i thought too, Sassy, but we had someone post here yesterday that said their husband went to the site after it was cleared & that it was surprising how small the grid area was! Something like 30 ft. by 30 ft. Then Baden says the remains were almost completely contained in the bag! Wonder just what they found outside the bag? If all of this is so, then not much except for maybe items from the house??!!


Monken,I found this.
Posted from FloridaKatz yesterday.

My husband went to the site the weekend after OCSO and the FBI cleared out.  Here's his description of the area:

Standing on the curb, the front line of the grid area is at most, 10 feet in from the curb.  Then 17 ft past that would be the back line of the grid.  15 ft to the left would be the far left line of the grid and 15 ft to the right would be the far right line of the grid.  He said that I would be quite surprised at how close to the road it is, and how small the search grid area is.  He compared it to a good sized swimming pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:37:13 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
I believe that it's a check cashing business.  It's where they found KC's car left by the dumpster.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:37:30 AM


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Klaas is so subtle isn't she.  ::MonkeyDance::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.

She sure knows how to make an entrance  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today Trimm....  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 10:37:34 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
Amscot is a checking cashing place where Casey left her car in the parking lot.

Thanks no rose....I know she had a bunch of pings there, but didn't know if it was more than one store or several. I always wonder who paid her cell phone bills. Just from Jan thru July they were close to $2500.00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:38:05 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

jr....have no fear ....Tim will not turn over personal information....IMO Tim will NEVER turn over anything to anyone...especially BJ......... and I don't believe there is anyone or thing on this earth that can make him.


I don't either Sunny! But I hope the records are secured! The defense is not above breaking into their office & then leaking info! I swear i think they'd do anything to get the bitch off!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 10:38:33 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Instead of just boycotting certain people/shows,why not boycott fox?? seems FOX is in bed with Baez and company... see how they like being boycotted..Just a thought.
Exactly!!  I don't watch Fox anymore and I also wrote them and told them that having Dr. Baden on is a conflict of interest and that everyone knows that Whorealdo is buddies with Baez (not those exact words).  I told them I would not watch them anymore and will boycott thier sponsers too.

Good job Granda2maddie!   That is the best way to get through to these stations - thru their sponsors!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 10:39:23 AM

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Hey Shan.  ::MonkeyDance::  Treadmill was bad idea. Stayed on 10 minutes and chest was on fire,coughing my head off.Skipping that for a couple more days.But I do feel better.
Have you watched the Kronk video yet? I watched Tim Miller on Greta and Tim Miller ROCKS.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Good Morning Monkeys!
Even walking brings on coughing spasms..
<<< I am using an inhaler and magic cough medicine, occasionally nodding off while reading. This has been a bad cold and flu season, hope everyone gets well soon.
As far as Mr Kronk, I watched the interview and I am going to reserve all judgement of him until I learn more. I want to believe him but have become so skeptical of so many that are involved in this case.
I suspect that when LE untangles this videoing mess, JB or Spindy will somehow be behind it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:40:03 AM


i was so proud watching Tim last night. he is determined that the defense will not get his records & will fight them tooth & nail! There is no telling what the defense would do to some of the searchers if they could get their hands on the info! Look at what's happened to anyone that is remotely involved!
i too, believe Kronk, based on his interview & I do think he deserves the reward, why not!

I am so glad that Tim has Mark in this with him.  Mark has been through many stages and seen from a lot of angles.  He also is the best Lawyer involved in this case. 

About Kronk and the reward.  Why would a crimeline even offer a reward if they didn't want to give it out.  Why should the public villianize him for taking a reward that a crimeline publicizes? 

That's right, they need to just give it to him!
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ITA, Kronk has been put through the ringer and then some.  He told LE about the kidnapping charge even though it had been expunged.  He took pics, yeah, but it appears it is a rattlesnake at this point.  If he took others, i'm sure LE has them.  Also, the big one for me is that LE has come right out and said "he is not a suspect or suspicious."  LE has NOT said that about anyone else in this case....that i've heard of. Honestly, I think Kronk had no choice to go out and try to clear his name.

We've all had suspicions of Kronk, I think because we have suspicions about everyone in this case, and rightfully so.  What is bothersome though, is the fact that THE DEFENSE WANTS US TO HAVE THESE SUSPICIONS, it helps them plant reasonable doubt.  I am convinced that Kronk is a "good guy."  Not perfect, but no one is.  I think he deserves the reward money.  If it werent for him, Caylee would still be in that "stinky swamp" and that slore would never tell where she was.  JMO.  Oh and btw, did I mention that KC is a slore??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 13, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
TY guys for your well wishes!! It was an unexpected thing..the tooth got infected, so they pulled it on an emergency basis..which means I had already eaten ..which means they had to do a local... ::MonkeyWaa::
No sedation for me... ::MonkeyWaa::

So, who do you guys think tipped off the PI? Evidently somebody did.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:41:35 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yeah.  I watched Dr. B last night on Greta.  I'm sick of seeing him - working the defense for his wife every night on Fox.   The bones were scattered over an acre of land - no way contained in the bag.   

That's what i thought too, Sassy, but we had someone post here yesterday that said their husband went to the site after it was cleared & that it was surprising how small the grid area was! Something like 30 ft. by 30 ft. Then Baden says the remains were almost completely contained in the bag! Wonder just what they found outside the bag? If all of this is so, then not much except for maybe items from the house??!!


Monken,I found this.
Posted from FloridaKatz yesterday.

My husband went to the site the weekend after OCSO and the FBI cleared out.  Here's his description of the area:

Standing on the curb, the front line of the grid area is at most, 10 feet in from the curb.  Then 17 ft past that would be the back line of the grid.  15 ft to the left would be the far left line of the grid and 15 ft to the right would be the far right line of the grid.  He said that I would be quite surprised at how close to the road it is, and how small the search grid area is.  He compared it to a good sized swimming pool.


That's it! Thanks Trimm! This area is so small compared to what I had pictured! Maybe the area searched was an acre but nothing was found outside of that grid area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Ono on January 13, 2009, 10:42:56 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

Sounds reasonable to me - If I had volunteered, I surely would hope that my personal info would remain confidential, so I don't think Tim would mind if you verified with EquuSearch that it would remain so.  In fact, letting him know your wishes for privacy would bolster his position in his battle with Baez, imo.  Tim is a wonderful person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

Good Morning Monks..old and new!  Ann, I am in complete agreement with you.....the reveal about when those first 2 calls were made was news to me and gave me reason to go ummmmmm about him once again. I didn't know about the 2 day off thing......I know most are feeling better about him....but this interview has simply raised mew questions in my mind.
Me too Sunny. ::MonkeyEek::

Me three.    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::    I'm not sure about him.  I wish his supervisor didn't live in the same neighborhood at the A's!!!    You know what I mean??   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:45:11 AM

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Hey Shan.  ::MonkeyDance::  Treadmill was bad idea. Stayed on 10 minutes and chest was on fire,coughing my head off.Skipping that for a couple more days.But I do feel better.
Have you watched the Kronk video yet? I watched Tim Miller on Greta and Tim Miller ROCKS.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Good Morning Monkeys!
Even walking brings on coughing spasms..
<<< I am using an inhaler and magic cough medicine, occasionally nodding off while reading. This has been a bad cold and flu season, hope everyone gets well soon.
As far as Mr Kronk, I watched the interview and I am going to reserve all judgement of him until I learn more. I want to believe him but have become so skeptical of so many that are involved in this case.
I suspect that when LE untangles this videoing mess, JB or Spindy will somehow be behind it..
Take care, and hope you are feeling better soon. I'm with you I am skeptical as well, I'll wait and see what else comes out. This video mess sure seems to have Cindy's name on it, won't surprise me at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:45:15 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
Amscot is a checking cashing place where Casey left her car in the parking lot.

Thanks no rose....I know she had a bunch of pings there, but didn't know if it was more than one store or several. I always wonder who paid her cell phone bills. Just from Jan thru July they were close to $2500.00

What!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: You can get unlimited texts for 20.00 bucks a month! What the hell was wrong with her? Um, wait a minute, I know!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:46:18 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/1067.jpg)

  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/stoltz5333/monkey%20forum%20album/ed.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:48:30 AM
TY guys for your well wishes!! It was an unexpected thing..the tooth got infected, so they pulled it on an emergency basis..which means I had already eaten ..which means they had to do a local... ::MonkeyWaa::
No sedation for me... ::MonkeyWaa::

So, who do you guys think tipped off the PI? Evidently somebody did.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Take care, I hope they gave you pain meds, I couldn't believe the pain when they took all four wisdom teeth out. Cindy, George or Lee, I would hope Baez isn't that dumb, but who knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:48:57 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....

Oh so sorry Nikkib, I do know how bad it hurts.

Can you give me just the name of the county you are in? I am in Lancaster Co.

Darla, r u in PA?
No Shan, South Carolina

Ahhh, ok, got it, thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 10:49:09 AM


God, I'm glad my husband doesn't watch Fox.   And, he can't stand Whoraldo - and when I put him on at night - my hubby leaves the room.  My husband spent 29 years in the Navy - thinks Whoraldo is a worthless POS.   

Your husband is a smart man!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 10:49:21 AM
I am itching for some document dumping.. We need some new evidence to volley around.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
Amscot is a checking cashing place where Casey left her car in the parking lot.

Thanks no rose....I know she had a bunch of pings there, but didn't know if it was more than one store or several. I always wonder who paid her cell phone bills. Just from Jan thru July they were close to $2500.00

What!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: You can get unlimited texts for 20.00 bucks a month! What the hell was wrong with her? Um, wait a minute, I know!   ::MonkeyTongue::

Monken, just the June one was almost $600.00 It was paid on July 15th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 10:51:03 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:52:26 AM
I am itching for some document dumping.. We need some new evidence to volley around.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Yes we do, Dr Baden said most of the remains were in the bag, I thought they were scattered. Unless a small amount was scattered, I would imagine it would take a lot of time even looking for a small amount of bones scattered, in that overgrown wooded area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:53:28 AM

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Hey Shan.  ::MonkeyDance::  Treadmill was bad idea. Stayed on 10 minutes and chest was on fire,coughing my head off.Skipping that for a couple more days.But I do feel better.
Have you watched the Kronk video yet? I watched Tim Miller on Greta and Tim Miller ROCKS.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Good Morning Monkeys!
Even walking brings on coughing spasms..
<<< I am using an inhaler and magic cough medicine, occasionally nodding off while reading. This has been a bad cold and flu season, hope everyone gets well soon.
As far as Mr Kronk, I watched the interview and I am going to reserve all judgement of him until I learn more. I want to believe him but have become so skeptical of so many that are involved in this case.
I suspect that when LE untangles this videoing mess, JB or Spindy will somehow be behind it..

A little O/T but wonder what's up with this coughing crap!? My husband & I have had it too! He has had it much worse than me though. He was not able to sleep for two nights, just a little sitting up in a chair! The doctor prescribed him some meds & the cough meds I have never heard of: Tessalon Perles! Little clear capsules & I swear they completely stop you from coughing for hours!!  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:53:44 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


Yes he did, and I believe the defense team has known for quite awhile.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:55:12 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

Um  Ok.  So is there evidence of decomp in KRONK's vehicle?  Oh wait.  Nope.  Just Casey's.

Oh I can hear it now....since the car was abandoned at Amscot ANYONE could have had access to it so no proof Casey put her in there   ::MonkeyConfused::

BTW - were there any video cameras of the Amscot parking lot? 

Since Amscot is being mentioned, I'm gonna ask this again....What was the significance to Amscot that KC kept going back and forth to there and Tony's and the A's??  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 10:55:33 AM


God, I'm glad my husband doesn't watch Fox.   And, he can't stand Whoraldo - and when I put him on at night - my hubby leaves the room.  My husband spent 29 years in the Navy - thinks Whoraldo is a worthless POS.   

Your husband is a smart man!


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:55:43 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 10:56:15 AM
Can I ask a stupid question?? What is Amscots? I haven't had a chance to read all the documents. TIA
Amscot is a checking cashing place where Casey left her car in the parking lot.

Thanks no rose....I know she had a bunch of pings there, but didn't know if it was more than one store or several. I always wonder who paid her cell phone bills. Just from Jan thru July they were close to $2500.00

What!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: You can get unlimited texts for 20.00 bucks a month! What the hell was wrong with her? Um, wait a minute, I know!   ::MonkeyTongue::

Monken, just the June one was almost $600.00 It was paid on July 15th


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: With stolen money!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 10:56:16 AM


God, I'm glad my husband doesn't watch Fox.   And, he can't stand Whoraldo - and when I put him on at night - my hubby leaves the room.  My husband spent 29 years in the Navy - thinks Whoraldo is a worthless POS.   
I am a Foxaholic..but I can do without Geraldo...I lived in NY back in the 70's and must admit his best work was uncovering the horror of Willowbrook. To his credit, he funds a home for mentally handicapped people.. He does alot of charity work too, too bad he is a putz.
The best was when he covered Ike from Galveston and got knocked down on the seawall, that was so funny.

Your husband is a smart man!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: canadagirl on January 13, 2009, 10:57:08 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 10:57:43 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

Good Morning Monks..old and new!  Ann, I am in complete agreement with you.....the reveal about when those first 2 calls were made was news to me and gave me reason to go ummmmmm about him once again. I didn't know about the 2 day off thing......I know most are feeling better about him....but this interview has simply raised mew questions in my mind.
Me too Sunny. ::MonkeyEek::

Me three.    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::    I'm not sure about him.  I wish his supervisor didn't live in the same neighborhood at the A's!!!    You know what I mean??   ::MonkeyConfused::

He said he didn't know the A's. I believe all of us would have been shocked if Kronk had said anything other than that. He was not asked about his supervisor who is a neighbor of the A's. Did he and the supervisor discuss the case? I won't make up my mind about him until I hear him talk about that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:58:13 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

Thanks for posting these MomofaMarine  ::MonkeyWink::  By the way, I believe the video above is the one where Lee's attorney shows what an idiot he is.  This case is not short of idiots working for free.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning everyone !!!  Had to chime in on this video.  This lawyer is lying !!  Watch the video again and watch the LONG blinks of his eyes when he says Lee has had limited contact with Dominic Casey.  Then he appears to be telling the truth (from his facial expressions) when he says he was hired to defend Lee against any Aiding, Abetting, and Obstruction charges.  You can always tell when someone is lying and this guy is lying

Yeah, not only is he lying, HE'S TERRIBLE AT IT TOO!!!!  IDIOT   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


Yes he did, and I believe the defense team has known for quite awhile.

Me too - I believe they've known since the beginning! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

Agree.  Agree.  Agree.

I think this case has been overanalized to the hilt.  Casey Anthony has been given way too much credit. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 11:00:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys
Puppy is spending the morning at day care to get in some play time.  The weather has been so bad that puppy park has been out of the question.


I am interested to see what will happen with the TES records that have been requested.  NeJame is a top notch attorney so I hope the arguments are televised.  I would really like to hear an argument in front of the judge by a seasoned attorney.

I wonder which state's laws will prevail?  The forms were completed in FL, if I am not mistaken.  FL has the very liberal Sunshine Laws. 

We have already seen many people have their names, addresses, phone numbers, work place information and in the first release of docs there were even SS#s. 

TES is located in TX and as far as I can tell, TX does not these liberal laws as far as releasing personal information. 

If forms were allowed to be completed and then brought to the search they could have been completed in any state.  Would this be a factor?

I do think that Baez will get the maps and search strategy notes (if they exist).  It will be interesting to see how the judge rules on the searcher's information, as this could have far reaching consequences not only for TES but other volunteer organizations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 11:01:42 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

Thanks for posting these MomofaMarine  ::MonkeyWink::  By the way, I believe the video above is the one where Lee's attorney shows what an idiot he is.  This case is not short of idiots working for free.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning everyone !!!  Had to chime in on this video.  This lawyer is lying !!  Watch the video again and watch the LONG blinks of his eyes when he says Lee has had limited contact with Dominic Casey.  Then he appears to be telling the truth (from his facial expressions) when he says he was hired to defend Lee against any Aiding, Abetting, and Obstruction charges.  You can always tell when someone is lying and this guy is lying

Yeah, not only is he lying, HE'S TERRIBLE AT IT TOO!!!!  IDIOT   ::MonkeyHaHa::

That video is one of the funniest things I have seen! What a toad!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:02:27 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::

Morning Monken!
I missed Kronk's interview this morning, but reading what you saw on it, maybe there isnt anything negative about him, after all.  Maybe we all got bad vibes because everyone else in this case is a liar and a mooch???  JMO

Hey, Shan, there are links to it further down the posts if you want to see it!

Thanks Monken.  Was catching up when I posted to you earlier...I did see the links and have since viewed the video of Kronk, Tyvm  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 11:02:34 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

They can only come out with the entire story after they have had enough time to make one up. Probably need to have a consult with Casey to help them come up with a really good one...she is the expert source after all.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

Darla,I agree it does cause a lot of confusion.And Geraldo is a putz.  ::MonkeyCool::
I love your Avi,it makes me smile every time I see it.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:03:45 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

Where have we heard that before, "they will come out with the rest of the story"
sounds like JB when he said when we hear from Crazy we will understand ....
I think they are all shuckin and jivin   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:04:07 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

jr....have no fear ....Tim will not turn over personal information....IMO Tim will NEVER turn over anything to anyone...especially BJ......... and I don't believe there is anyone or thing on this earth that can make him.


I don't either Sunny! But I hope the records are secured! The defense is not above breaking into their office & then leaking info! I swear i think they'd do anything to get the bitch off!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Monken, I disagree respectfully.  The defense is not doing anything but sitting in their office and filing motions.  Baez needs to do a little discovery of his own. 
Now Dominic Casey on the other hand.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 11:04:08 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.



Yes, he said that mid October and I agree, they knew Caylee was dead.


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/10/17/even-casey-anthony-legal-pr-spokesman-todd-black-thinks-that-caylee-anthony-has-lost-her-life-ooops/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
I have no idea why Casey was around Amscot so much, actually for a 22 year old, she sure stayed rather close to home, she sure did not wander to far.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
Good Morning Monkeys
Puppy is spending the morning at day care to get in some play time.  The weather has been so bad that puppy park has been out of the question.


I am interested to see what will happen with the TES records that have been requested.  NeJame is a top notch attorney so I hope the arguments are televised.  I would really like to hear an argument in front of the judge by a seasoned attorney.

I wonder which state's laws will prevail?  The forms were completed in FL, if I am not mistaken.  FL has the very liberal Sunshine Laws. 

We have already seen many people have their names, addresses, phone numbers, work place information and in the first release of docs there were even SS#s. 

TES is located in TX and as far as I can tell, TX does not these liberal laws as far as releasing personal information. 

If forms were allowed to be completed and then brought to the search they could have been completed in any state.  Would this be a factor?

I do think that Baez will get the maps and search strategy notes (if they exist).  It will be interesting to see how the judge rules on the searcher's information, as this could have far reaching consequences not only for TES but other volunteer organizations.

Tim said they would NOT be released & that they would appeal any decision! He is bound & determined that they will NOT get his records!! I hope they are hidden & there are alarms on the building!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

Why would Conway think that the LE and/or FBI didn't already have the Anthony's phone records or could get them?  A couple of subpoenas and the Anthony's and/or Dominic can just keep their copies as law enforcement will have the records from the service provider.  If he thinks this is some kind of bargaining chip the LE must be LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 11:06:07 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


Yes he did, and I believe the defense team has known for quite awhile.
Oh that's for sure. I honbestly do't think Kronk is hinky but D.Casey however is a different story. I do think that someone in the A's family got it out of Casey probably while she was at home and I think it was Lee. Imagine the position he would have been in though. Mum has gone off the deep end and Dad is doing the quick paddle after her. Neither of them want to hear the truth and would make it impossible for him to tel l them or the police without being disowned from the family or causing extra grief to his mum who he seems to really care about AND if he tells where the body is when he had withheld the info for some time he might be accused of having something to do with it. I think that Lee tried to find a way to have it come out without putting himself in the centre of it and I think that the intent was simply to have Caylee come home to be laid to rest and provide closure for the family. I really don't think he cared himself anymore whether Casey was charged or not he just wanted Caylee found. I know I am wildly speculating but I think that is the simple answer. No conspiracy really I don't think they were going to destroy evidence on purpose DC is just a bumbling fool who doesn't know how to preserve a crime scene and was flying blind on 2nd hand info. jmho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:06:34 AM
(((Nikki, feel better))).. 4 wisdom teeth at once is a *itch.
Hope he gave you something besides antibiotics and a new toothbrush  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 11:06:43 AM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

Darla,I agree it does cause a lot of confusion.And Geraldo is a putz.  ::MonkeyCool::
I love your Avi,it makes me smile every time I see it.  ::MonkeyWink::
Thank you trim, that is my youngest gd. I have to change them every week to give them equal billing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 11:06:45 AM

 ::MonkeyWaa::

I just worded that wrong..what I meant was..I don't want to burden Sparky....  ::MonkeyRoll::

I'm going to take a shower before I get into trouble...  ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Sparky !

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Good Morning, Admiral!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

I agree somewhat, Darla.  I just think that if these "players" in this case werent so dang "fishy"  :fish: then they media wouldnt be pointing out the "huge bombshells." 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 11:07:25 AM
That video is one of the funniest things I have seen! What a toad!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 11:07:37 AM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 11:08:32 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

They can only come out with the entire story after they have had enough time to make one up. Probably need to have a consult with Casey to help them come up with a really good one...she is the expert source after all.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

You hit the nail on the head, Cyn! The story will be whatever they think sounds good to them, at the time! They've lied all along so I'll never believe them, unless their story is exactly the same as the prosecution's!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 11:08:56 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237254&version=1&locale=EN-US


Judge Napolitano says (per defense) Kronk took the bag with him, then ruined the contents.



 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG!!! You got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

What do they think, he had the bag in his car? Maybe he brought it to his house for a few months??? WTH??????? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard yet, and that is not saying alot when it comes to this case!

One more thing about this,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Idiots................

How did this Judge N come up with this theory in the first place?   Has Baez come out and said this?    This is the first time I've heard this theory.   So, does that mean that this Judge N is also sleeping with Baez and company? - must be - he is also working for FOX.           FOX is really starting to piss me off.

He said it's the defense theory that Kronk took the bag with him! WTF!!?? Baez is a freakin' idiot!! That man is a bounty hunter. There is no way he would have moved the bag!
Hey also last night on Greta; di anyone hear when Baden said the remains were almost completely contained within the bag!  ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they were scattered around. There must not have been much at all outside the bag.  ::MonkeyEek::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.

Hi Klaas!  Don't mince words, how do you really feel?   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 11:09:37 AM


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Klaas is so subtle isn't she.  ::MonkeyDance::

Judge Napolitano is an idiot, don't even listen to him.  He's blowing smoke out of his A** and doesn't have a clue about anything.

She sure knows how to make an entrance  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today Trimm....  ::MonkeyCool::


Thanks Sea. Did you find COFFEE monkey yet?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 11:09:55 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."
Yes they will come out with phone records publicly to try and explain the linnk to Lee's or a freind of Lee's phone call to DC during that period. They will say that they were discussing the next fundraiser and had no idea what Casey was doing lol. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

Why would Conway think that the LE and/or FBI didn't already have the Anthony's phone records or could get them?  A couple of subpoenas and the Anthony's and/or Dominic can just keep their copies as law enforcement will have the records from the service provider.  If he thinks this is some kind of bargaining chip the LE must be LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 11:10:29 AM
The news report I watched last night at 11:00...think it was on channel 6...said that Kronk had taken time off from work on December 8th and the 10th.  The reporter is trying to get Orange County to reveal why he took time off.  The way it sounded, the reporter thought it was strange that he took off just prior to finding Caylee and what was so important on those days?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 11:12:21 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm way behind, but wanted to make a comment on this and look for some input. I don't necessarily want to overburden Tim with e-mails, but I'm thinking that we, the volunteers that DID go and search and that DID fill out the forms containing personal information, write to Tim and say that we do not want our personal info be turned over. Do you think that would help him in his fight over this? Or would it be more of a burden for him?
I for one, know that I definitely DO NOT want my personal info passed around. I filled out those forms with pure confidence in TES that they would remain confidential.

Any input on this?

jr....have no fear ....Tim will not turn over personal information....IMO Tim will NEVER turn over anything to anyone...especially BJ......... and I don't believe there is anyone or thing on this earth that can make him.


I don't either Sunny! But I hope the records are secured! The defense is not above breaking into their office & then leaking info! I swear i think they'd do anything to get the bitch off!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Monken, I disagree respectfully.  The defense is not doing anything but sitting in their office and filing motions.  Baez needs to do a little discovery of his own. 
Now Dominic Casey on the other hand.... ::MonkeyTongue::

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Baez needs a little outside activity; he's really putting on some lb's! Is DC still working for the A's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:12:39 AM
The news report I watched last night at 11:00...think it was on channel 6...said that Kronk had taken time off from work on December 8th and the 10th.  The reporter is trying to get Orange County to reveal why he took time off.  The way it sounded, the reporter thought it was strange that he took off just prior to finding Caylee and what was so important on those days?
They had a meeting to get their stories straight  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 11:13:10 AM
That video is one of the funniest things I have seen! What a toad!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Quote
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."

  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 11:13:41 AM
Good Morning Monkeys
Puppy is spending the morning at day care to get in some play time.  The weather has been so bad that puppy park has been out of the question.


I am interested to see what will happen with the TES records that have been requested.  NeJame is a top notch attorney so I hope the arguments are televised.  I would really like to hear an argument in front of the judge by a seasoned attorney.

I wonder which state's laws will prevail?  The forms were completed in FL, if I am not mistaken.  FL has the very liberal Sunshine Laws. 

We have already seen many people have their names, addresses, phone numbers, work place information and in the first release of docs there were even SS#s. 

TES is located in TX and as far as I can tell, TX does not these liberal laws as far as releasing personal information. 

If forms were allowed to be completed and then brought to the search they could have been completed in any state.  Would this be a factor?

I do think that Baez will get the maps and search strategy notes (if they exist).  It will be interesting to see how the judge rules on the searcher's information, as this could have far reaching consequences not only for TES but other volunteer organizations.

Tim said they would NOT be released & that they would appeal any decision! He is bound & determined that they will NOT get his records!! I hope they are hidden & there are alarms on the building!  ::MonkeyEek::

I bet Tim would be willing to go to jail to protect his volunteers if there is a need for an appeal and that appeal fails.  I just don't see the defense breaking in to get the records.  Even if someone else stole the records they would be tainted and not admissible in court IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 11:13:44 AM

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Hey Shan.  ::MonkeyDance::  Treadmill was bad idea. Stayed on 10 minutes and chest was on fire,coughing my head off.Skipping that for a couple more days.But I do feel better.
Have you watched the Kronk video yet? I watched Tim Miller on Greta and Tim Miller ROCKS.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Good Morning Monkeys!
Even walking brings on coughing spasms..
<<< I am using an inhaler and magic cough medicine, occasionally nodding off while reading. This has been a bad cold and flu season, hope everyone gets well soon.
As far as Mr Kronk, I watched the interview and I am going to reserve all judgement of him until I learn more. I want to believe him but have become so skeptical of so many that are involved in this case.
I suspect that when LE untangles this videoing mess, JB or Spindy will somehow be behind it..


I know what you mean about the coughing and the nodding.I said last night I got caught reading with one eye shut.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I want to think Kronk is on the up and up but I guess time will tell.I can't believe how many people are mixed up in this.
Hope you get feeling better.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 11:15:06 AM
Have I told you guys yet how much it HURTS to have your wisdom teeth cut out???
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa:: NikkiB NOT good....


(http://th205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/hilda530/monkey/th_hurt.gif) You don't have to tell me. I had all four done at the same time, and 12 shots of novacaine that barely worked!!

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

NikkiB, hope you feel better. don't smoke (hope you don't) & don't drink out of a straw! i'm sure they told you that, but i got a dry socket & it was horrible.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:15:26 AM
Monken if DC is still working for the Anthony's then...  well... they really are dumb. 

It seems everyone that gets within speaking distance of them is a liar, a cheat, or a fake.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:16:47 AM
Wasn't Todd Black fired after making that slip about Caylee's loss of life?  I can't find the articles now but I swear he was!  and now here he is still making public statements for Baez.  You think they'd have learned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:16:50 AM
I watched Kronk this morning on GMA while getting ready for work and I felt much better about his credibility after seeing this interview that I did before.  I did find it a bit strange that a taped interview was shown, rather than showing him live. If you remember, she said they were going to show an interview that TOOK place earlier in their New York studio.  Since Kronk is in New York, why wasn't he live? I figure this was so his attorney could have more control over the interview and what was aired. But, he did sound like a pretty up front sort of guy and I did believe his story. I still have to say that I have some feelings about something not being exactly right with him...just like all the dots don't connect.  Also, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to details of the case, as I didn't remember that when he made the first two calls in August it was 9:30 at night from his home.  How could you see something you think was related to finding this precious little girl and wait until 9:30 at night to report it?  I know if any of us saw something, we would be calling immediately!!!  Also interested in the piece that Channel 6 news did last night regarding Kronk taking two days off before the body was found.  Channel 6 is still waiting from an answer from Orange County as to why he requested those particular days off.

Good Morning Monks..old and new!  Ann, I am in complete agreement with you.....the reveal about when those first 2 calls were made was news to me and gave me reason to go ummmmmm about him once again. I didn't know about the 2 day off thing......I know most are feeling better about him....but this interview has simply raised mew questions in my mind.
Me too Sunny. ::MonkeyEek::

Me three.    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::    I'm not sure about him.  I wish his supervisor didn't live in the same neighborhood at the A's!!!     You know what I mean??   ::MonkeyConfused::

I get what you are saying, Sassy.  Today, I'm looking at it that the A's had next to no friends.  The neighbors dont even seem to bother with them.  Maybe it's just a coincidence??  IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:17:40 AM
Thanks trimm...backatcha  ::MonkeyWink::
Time to color my hair while the coughing has stopped...
I haven't been this sick in 15 yrs..
And I am the freaky type that keeps lysol wipes in a zip lock bag in my purse and that germx hand gel..dang snowbirds bring this gunk here  ::MonkeyHaHa::
How are you feeling BOO?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 11:18:33 AM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Exactly!  I said out loud, "hmmm, sounds like an Anthony answer"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 11:22:02 AM
I just wondered if anyone else saw the whiteboard nailed to the tree in Hoovers vid? It reminds me of Kronks description of where he saw the suspicious bag back in Aug. and adds weight to the fact that DC was looking in the area where the bag was first spotted possibly or even where it was found. That white thing on a tree comment is going to establish if Kronk found it in the same are it was in in Dec. and the rain inbetween could have moved it imo. Either way I think that whiteboard solves a lot of probs for LE when it comes to working out where they were in relation to the body and in relation to Kronks first calls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 11:24:51 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm about 5 pages behind, but wanted to comment too on this. I think it's rediculous they would ask for info of all the volunteer searchers. If this is going to happen everytime a search of a missing person takes place, no one will volunteer to search for fear they may be held suspicious, especially if they find the body or are nearby where a body is found. I didn't realize people gave out personal info when they join a search. I could see giving your name & address, maybe show drivers license (I think it's good to know who's searching). But to just blanketly hand over all that info is wrong. I think that info should only be used if they have reason to be suspicious of ONE of the searchers, just give them that ONE persons info and only if it is required by a court order.

OK, now I'm going to try to catch back up, AGAIN!!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 11:24:53 AM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:27:28 AM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?

Why would Conway think that the LE and/or FBI didn't already have the Anthony's phone records or could get them?  A couple of subpoenas and the Anthony's and/or Dominic can just keep their copies as law enforcement will have the records from the service provider.  If he thinks this is some kind of bargaining chip the LE must be LOL.

I agree and I have no law background.  He's just as bad as Lee's attorney, imo.  I'm LOL at all these attorneys!!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
KRONK's full interview on GMA today. It's in photobucket, just click on the picture below:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)

Thanks, Klaas!  After seeing that interview, I find Kronk to be believable.  How do the rest of the monkeys feel about Kronk's believability?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 11:30:44 AM
::cartwheel:: Tim Miller is ON Greta, and he said that the information about the location is no where near where she was found ::MonkeyEek:: He also is disgusted by all the explotation involved in those who have inserted themselves in this case, and he WILL NOT turn over all his records~NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!!! He won't allow all the info on the volunteers and their personal info released. You GO TIM ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I'm about 5 pages behind, but wanted to comment too on this. I think it's rediculous they would ask for info of all the volunteer searchers. If this is going to happen everytime a search of a missing person takes place, no one will volunteer to search for fear they may be held suspicious, especially if they find the body or are nearby where a body is found. I didn't realize people gave out personal info when they join a search. I could see giving your name & address, maybe show drivers license (I think it's good to know who's searching). But to just blanketly hand over all that info is wrong. I think that info should only be used if they have reason to be suspicious of ONE of the searchers, just give them that ONE persons info and only if it is required by a court order.

OK, now I'm going to try to catch back up, AGAIN!!  ::MonkeyConfused::
What other personal information besides name and address was requested on the form?  I have wondered about this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 11:37:07 AM
has Kronk taken or been asked to take a lie detector test?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 11:37:37 AM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!
Grumpy...but good  !! Thanks !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 11:41:11 AM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


Does he have any teeth left?   Poor guy, that sounds mighty painful!

Feel better soon, Nikki!

OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


Yes he did, and I believe the defense team has known for quite awhile.
Oh that's for sure. I honbestly do't think Kronk is hinky but D.Casey however is a different story. I do think that someone in the A's family got it out of Casey probably while she was at home and I think it was Lee. Imagine the position he would have been in though. Mum has gone off the deep end and Dad is doing the quick paddle after her. Neither of them want to hear the truth and would make it impossible for him to tel l them or the police without being disowned from the family or causing extra grief to his mum who he seems to really care about AND if he tells where the body is when he had withheld the info for some time he might be accused of having something to do with it. I think that Lee tried to find a way to have it come out without putting himself in the centre of it and I think that the intent was simply to have Caylee come home to be laid to rest and provide closure for the family. I really don't think he cared himself anymore whether Casey was charged or not he just wanted Caylee found. I know I am wildly speculating but I think that is the simple answer. No conspiracy really I don't think they were going to destroy evidence on purpose DC is just a bumbling fool who doesn't know how to preserve a crime scene and was flying blind on 2nd hand info. jmho

Hmmmm, I see what you are saying and I dont know if I can buy that just yet.  It could be that simple, hope it is.  I do agree that Lee is probably the smartest out of the family (not saying much there though) and yeah from other reports I've read he does try hard to protect his family. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 11:44:29 AM
Good morning everyone.  I see Sea has moved up from kitty cats to pretty red heads.  And Bud's girl - yowsa!!!!  I had a dream last nite that three angels came to me and they were each carrying a silver platter - I have no idea what that means, but I hope it is good.

but but but but....she was a terrier, I swear  ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning pretty kitty...maybe it's a sign that your going to move in with Dolce and get your very own driver  ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 11:45:17 AM
O/T..

Klaas...I transfered all of the Elvis stuff in musings over to the Elvis thread..if it's not too much trouble, you can delete #27 as it's doubled up, which I couldn't avoid to give it the proper author...other than that it looks OK to me..

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 11:46:27 AM

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Baez needs a little outside activity; he's really putting on some lb's! Is DC still working for the A's?

Well, Jose's main activity ended as soon as Casey went back to jail.......and it's showing on both of them!  Now their only intimacy is eating together, apparently!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 11:47:51 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 

Hi Grandma2Maddie,

"IF"   it were an accident, then I would have to agree with the guys from Prime News, Why didn't she show any emotion? My gosh, when I accidentally kill a ladybug, I get weepy. I don't buy the defense saying, "Well, everyone grieves differently."  

Grief is a process. There are 7 stages.  
Listed below for anyone who needs a refresher. I'd like to know what stage of GRIEF she IS   in. As far as I know, she's been high fiving, eating chocolates, renting movies, partying with hot girls, making goo goo eyes at several men all since Caylee "disappeared."   I'd really like to know how this is going to fly with a jury.

The defense can yammer on about "circumstancial"   evidence all they want, bottom line: a jury will want someone to pay for this crime, CASEY is the ONLY suspect, the only one with intent, the only one with pre-meditation. Who knows if she will do life or get death. Either way, she will be beaten daily in prison or she will get out and someone will "Accidentally" kill her. Her life is OVER.

TO JOSE BAEZ-BTW-Darlie Routier tried to use this grief theory at her trial. She sprayed silly string at her son's grave only a few days after he died because it was his birthday. She was convicted and is now on Texas' Death Row.  

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING-Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN-As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 11:48:04 AM

Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


Whoops!  That was my quote, not QM's!

Does he have any teeth left?   Poor guy, that sounds mighty painful!

Feel better soon, Nikki!

OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: sharlock on January 13, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
has Kronk taken or been asked to take a lie detector test?

We don't know for sure but it is possible as LE gave him a resounding all clear and they have done that for noone else on this case except perhaps for Jesse. I think he was very beleivable and the only time I saw him react badly was when he was asked if he was involved with Caylees death in any way and he had a strong reaction of disgust to that thought imo.
 I still think it was Lee who sent DC out to that site but I don't think it was for the bad reasons others have suggested though I could be wrong. It would've be impossible for him to tell the police without being disowned from the family or causing extra grief to his mum who he seems to really care about AND if he tells where the body is when he had withheld the info for some time he might be accused of having something to do with it. I think that Lee tried to find a way to have it come out without putting himself in the centre of it and I think that the intent was simply to have Caylee come home to be laid to rest and provide closure for the family. I really don't think he cared himself anymore whether Casey was charged or not he just wanted Caylee found. I know I am wildly speculating but I think that is the simple answer. No conspiracy really I don't think they were going to destroy evidence on purpose DC is just a bumbling fool who doesn't know how to preserve a crime scene and was flying blind on 2nd hand info. jmho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/1067.jpg)

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Trimm...if I had known you were going to take pictures I would have asked you to leave...you did get my good side tho....even got me singing..

"We're caught in a trap...I can't walk out..because I love you too much baby..." lalala


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:55:55 AM
has Kronk taken or been asked to take a lie detector test?

We don't know for sure but it is possible as LE gave him a resounding all clear and they have done that for noone else on this case except perhaps for Jesse. I think he was very beleivable and the only time I saw him react badly was when he was asked if he was involved with Caylees death in any way and he had a strong reaction of disgust to that thought imo.
 I still think it was Lee who sent DC out to that site but I don't think it was for the bad reasons others have suggested though I could be wrong. It would've be impossible for him to tell the police without being disowned from the family or causing extra grief to his mum who he seems to really care about AND if he tells where the body is when he had withheld the info for some time he might be accused of having something to do with it. I think that Lee tried to find a way to have it come out without putting himself in the centre of it and I think that the intent was simply to have Caylee come home to be laid to rest and provide closure for the family. I really don't think he cared himself anymore whether Casey was charged or not he just wanted Caylee found. I know I am wildly speculating but I think that is the simple answer. No conspiracy really I don't think they were going to destroy evidence on purpose DC is just a bumbling fool who doesn't know how to preserve a crime scene and was flying blind on 2nd hand info. jmho

I hope you are right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 

Hi Grandma2Maddie,

"IF"   it were an accident, then I would have to agree with the guys from Prime News, Why didn't she show any emotion? My gosh, when I accidentally kill a ladybug, I get weepy. I don't buy the defense saying, "Well, everyone grieves differently."  

Grief is a process. There are 7 stages.  
Listed below for anyone who needs a refresher. I'd like to know what stage of GRIEF she IS   in. As far as I know, she's been high fiving, eating chocolates, renting movies, partying with hot girls, making goo goo eyes at several men all since Caylee "disappeared."   I'd really like to know how this is going to fly with a jury.

The defense can yammer on about "circumstancial"   evidence all they want, bottom line: a jury will want someone to pay for this crime, CASEY is the ONLY suspect, the only one with intent, the only one with pre-meditation. Who knows if she will do life or get death. Either way, she will be beaten daily in prison or she will get out and someone will "Accidentally" kill her. Her life is OVER.

TO JOSE BAEZ-BTW-Darlie Routier tried to use this grief theory at her trial. She sprayed silly string at her son's grave only a few days after he died because it was his birthday. She was convicted and is now on Texas' Death Row.  

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING-Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN-As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.


I have also never thought it was an accident.  What I was trying to say was that sometime ago there was a fax/letter that was sent to LE with some kind of speculation that if Caylee was dead then it was probably due to an accident.  So with this and the slip of Mr. Black's tongue the defense knew Caylee was already dead.  Sometimes when I type I don't make my points very good.  My fingers and brain don't work good together sometimes. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
has Kronk taken or been asked to take a lie detector test?
I don't know if he has been asked, but no he has not taken a lie detector test, at least that is what has been said. So who knows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: littletxlady on January 13, 2009, 11:57:56 AM
Good Morning Monkeys :) I hope everyone is warm this am. I has been pretty chilly here in Texas overnight. I am so disgusted with LP! I have said it before and I'll say it again...LP needs to load up and ride off into the sunset! In my opinion he is doing more harm to this case than good. I believe TM has more integrity in his little finger than LP will ever have. Sorry for the rant, this just really steams me.
JMHO
snipped from On the Record last night>>>

Tim Miller from EquuSearch joins us live. Tim, what was the information you did learn about that area? What was the tip?

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know, this is one of the things that I've actually been with the investigators on. Unfortunately, Leonard Padilla said some things about, you know, what Jim Hoover came and told us, and it's one of the things that I've been working with the detectives on.
Of course, the story that we got from Hoover I can't really say what it is. It's part of the investigation. But it was nowhere even close to the stories that you're just reporting.

And you know, Greta, if I can say this real quick, I think everybody has just lost sight of what this whole thing is about. I mean, we find all these people out -- all these players out here that are making money off this and exploiting this thing and just forgot about this little girl and all the work detectives have done and we've done and other people have done from the bottom of their heart. You know, it's just saddening. None of these stories are consistent with anything. And again, people are exploiting this for their own personal profit. It's simply disgusting.
VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, I'm trying to figure this out, though, because Jose Baez, the lawyer for Casey Anthony, who sits in the slammer tonight facing the murder charge of this little child who's her daughter -- he's trying to get some information from you. What is he trying to get from you?

MILLER: Jose Baez, as far as I'm concerned, is not going to get one single piece of paper from me. Not one piece of paper.

VAN SUSTEREN: What does he want?

MILLER: He wants every single record...

VAN SUSTEREN: What is he trying go get?

MILLER: He wants every single record that we have. We have over 20,000 copies of paper, and Jose Baez is not getting one piece of paper. If the judge rules on that, you know, my attorney, Mark Nejame, that we will appeal that. We've got many reasons. We were never notified. I'm not going to put the information of 4,000-plus searchers out there with all their personal information.

You know what? These volunteers have been very, very valuable in the past on searches. They're going to be very valuable in the future on searches for missing children. And will they come the next time, when they're afraid that their information is going to be given out? We have not one piece of paper that will be valuable to Jose Baez in any way, shape or form. So I will fight this to the very, very end and -- and you know -- again, we're going to fight that one to the very end, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you receive a tip on November 8th, your organization, that was the least bit instructive in this investigation?

MILLER: I'm going to answer the question that is yes. And again, Leonard Padilla went on another show and said that we got a tip leading us to the area. It was not to there by Jim Hoover. I can say this, it was close to there. And the reason he gave us, the witness he gave us was nowhere close to what you reported. And then, of course, Leonard Padilla went on to say that EquuSearch lost the -- you know, lost the records and stuff.
And you know, I'm working very, very close with law enforcement on this. And law enforcement does have that written report from that lead that we got from Jim Hoover. So you know, all these stories are so inconsistent, it's -- it'll just make your head spin.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, thank you, as always




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 11:58:02 AM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/1067.jpg)

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Trimm...if I had known you were going to take pictures I would have asked you to leave...you did get my good side tho....even got me singing..

"We're caught in a trap...I can't walk out..because I love you too much baby..." lalala


ROTFLMAO.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 11:59:08 AM
has Kronk taken or been asked to take a lie detector test?

We don't know for sure but it is possible as LE gave him a resounding all clear and they have done that for noone else on this case except perhaps for Jesse. I think he was very beleivable and the only time I saw him react badly was when he was asked if he was involved with Caylees death in any way and he had a strong reaction of disgust to that thought imo.
 I still think it was Lee who sent DC out to that site but I don't think it was for the bad reasons others have suggested though I could be wrong. It would've be impossible for him to tell the police without being disowned from the family or causing extra grief to his mum who he seems to really care about AND if he tells where the body is when he had withheld the info for some time he might be accused of having something to do with it. I think that Lee tried to find a way to have it come out without putting himself in the centre of it and I think that the intent was simply to have Caylee come home to be laid to rest and provide closure for the family. I really don't think he cared himself anymore whether Casey was charged or not he just wanted Caylee found. I know I am wildly speculating but I think that is the simple answer. No conspiracy really I don't think they were going to destroy evidence on purpose DC is just a bumbling fool who doesn't know how to preserve a crime scene and was flying blind on 2nd hand info. jmho
I agree that LE has given Kronk and all clear. And I agree that his reaction to the question was one of strong disgust.  I was only asking the question as I think it would take so much pressure off of him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 12:02:14 PM
I think it's very interesting that we're once again hearing pavers referred to in all the talk about where DC and Hoover searched for the body. I remember at the first, there was a lot of talk about pavers but we thought they were always talking about the Ants backyard.  Maybe someone had some information about the body being near pavers way back then???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 12:02:50 PM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 

Hi Grandma2Maddie,

"IF"   it were an accident, then I would have to agree with the guys from Prime News, Why didn't she show any emotion? My gosh, when I accidentally kill a ladybug, I get weepy. I don't buy the defense saying, "Well, everyone grieves differently."  

Grief is a process. There are 7 stages.  
Listed below for anyone who needs a refresher. I'd like to know what stage of GRIEF she IS   in. As far as I know, she's been high fiving, eating chocolates, renting movies, partying with hot girls, making goo goo eyes at several men all since Caylee "disappeared."   I'd really like to know how this is going to fly with a jury.

The defense can yammer on about "circumstancial"   evidence all they want, bottom line: a jury will want someone to pay for this crime, CASEY is the ONLY suspect, the only one with intent, the only one with pre-meditation. Who knows if she will do life or get death. Either way, she will be beaten daily in prison or she will get out and someone will "Accidentally" kill her. Her life is OVER.

TO JOSE BAEZ-BTW-Darlie Routier tried to use this grief theory at her trial. She sprayed silly string at her son's grave only a few days after he died because it was his birthday. She was convicted and is now on Texas' Death Row.  

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING-Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN-As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.



Informative post as always, thanks for the info.  (I've been there)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 12:03:09 PM
Just got back on and have several pages to read now but just wanted to say some things that I have on my mind.

1. Our local news in Jacksonville, FL last night showed the video in their report and really led towards the A's leading DC there. Well he left it as a question but never gave the DC talking to a psychic thing. For others not so much on this case listening it really made the finger point in their direction. Nothing new to us monkeys though.

2. Joy Wray...I found my notes I made on her and besides the Seminole county stuff on here which has been mentioned a month or two ago I also checked Orange county. (she married her husband in 2005, John Bradley Wray and her maiden or previous name was Maggard and middle name Roseann.
If anyone has not posted this info on a criminal case on her I will include it but can't get much off internet on it.
case 2008-CF-0004566-0 Filed 3/26/08 Criminal
Joy Wray bd 6/24/1979

Just had that on my mind since she is like a pimple in this case...you think their gone and then you get another one.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 12:05:49 PM
Sea is in the shower.  ::MonkeyDance::



 ::MonkeyShocked:: Trimm...if I had known you were going to take pictures I would have asked you to leave...you did get my good side tho....even got me singing..

"We're caught in a trap...I can't walk out..because I love you too much baby..." lalala
ROTFL  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:11:01 PM
Good Morning Monkeys :) I hope everyone is warm this am. I has been pretty chilly here in Texas overnight. I am so disgusted with LP! I have said it before and I'll say it again...LP needs to load up and ride off into the sunset! In my opinion he is doing more harm to this case than good. I believe TM has more integrity in his little finger than LP will ever have. Sorry for the rant, this just really steams me.
JMHO
snipped from On the Record last night>>>

Tim Miller from EquuSearch joins us live. Tim, what was the information you did learn about that area? What was the tip?

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know, this is one of the things that I've actually been with the investigators on. Unfortunately, Leonard Padilla said some things about, you know, what Jim Hoover came and told us, and it's one of the things that I've been working with the detectives on.
Of course, the story that we got from Hoover I can't really say what it is. It's part of the investigation. But it was nowhere even close to the stories that you're just reporting.

And you know, Greta, if I can say this real quick, I think everybody has just lost sight of what this whole thing is about. I mean, we find all these people out -- all these players out here that are making money off this and exploiting this thing and just forgot about this little girl and all the work detectives have done and we've done and other people have done from the bottom of their heart. You know, it's just saddening. None of these stories are consistent with anything. And again, people are exploiting this for their own personal profit. It's simply disgusting.
VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, I'm trying to figure this out, though, because Jose Baez, the lawyer for Casey Anthony, who sits in the slammer tonight facing the murder charge of this little child who's her daughter -- he's trying to get some information from you. What is he trying to get from you?

MILLER: Jose Baez, as far as I'm concerned, is not going to get one single piece of paper from me. Not one piece of paper.

VAN SUSTEREN: What does he want?

MILLER: He wants every single record...

VAN SUSTEREN: What is he trying go get?

MILLER: He wants every single record that we have. We have over 20,000 copies of paper, and Jose Baez is not getting one piece of paper. If the judge rules on that, you know, my attorney, Mark Nejame, that we will appeal that. We've got many reasons. We were never notified. I'm not going to put the information of 4,000-plus searchers out there with all their personal information.

You know what? These volunteers have been very, very valuable in the past on searches. They're going to be very valuable in the future on searches for missing children. And will they come the next time, when they're afraid that their information is going to be given out? We have not one piece of paper that will be valuable to Jose Baez in any way, shape or form. So I will fight this to the very, very end and -- and you know -- again, we're going to fight that one to the very end, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you receive a tip on November 8th, your organization, that was the least bit instructive in this investigation?

MILLER: I'm going to answer the question that is yes. And again, Leonard Padilla went on another show and said that we got a tip leading us to the area. It was not to there by Jim Hoover. I can say this, it was close to there. And the reason he gave us, the witness he gave us was nowhere close to what you reported. And then, of course, Leonard Padilla went on to say that EquuSearch lost the -- you know, lost the records and stuff.
And you know, I'm working very, very close with law enforcement on this. And law enforcement does have that written report from that lead that we got from Jim Hoover. So you know, all these stories are so inconsistent, it's -- it'll just make your head spin.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, thank you, as always




Since this case is ALL ABOUT THE ANTHONY'S...then TIM MILLER should join in the way the ANTHONY'S HAVE DESTROYED .....EVIDENCE.....

HE SHOULD SHRED EVERY SCRAP OF PAPER HE HAS REGARDING THE SEARCHES. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 12:14:35 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:16:22 PM

HE SHOULD SHRED EVERY SCRAP OF PAPER HE HAS REGARDING THE SEARCHES. 

Seriously..  he isn't legally bound by law to keep them, is he? Those people are volunteering their time.  They may never search with TES again, if there is no missing person in the area they live in.. so what would be the point to keep their information? Even websites online don't keep your financial information on record, if you don't want them to.  He can get rid of everything.  If those people never work with him again, they have no reason for Tim to contact them again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 12:19:46 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.

Very good point, Ann.  I have the same thing for my mother to do for my girls.   ::MonkeyWink::

If I had to guess, KC didnt want bothered with taking Caylee to doctor's.  I'm sure if she needed to go, it would be Cindy who would take her.  JMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.

Very good point, Ann.  I have the same thing for my mother to do for my girls.   ::MonkeyWink::

If I had to guess, KC didnt want bothered with taking Caylee to doctor's.  I'm sure if she needed to go, it would be Cindy who would take her.  JMO. 

I wouldn't say any "normal" person would do such a thing.  I used to babysit a couple of my cousins when they were much younger.  I was even a "live-in" at some point, during one summer.  There was no authorization form involved. I had a number to call in case something happened, and that was that.  If you're talking about a school situation (daycare, or something) that's different. But I would venture a guess that quite a number of people do not have authorization forms for their babysitters. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 12:24:08 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.

Very good point, Ann.  I have the same thing for my mother to do for my girls.   ::MonkeyWink::

I believe she said that both her and her mom where authorized possibly her dad (don't remember) but definitely no the babysitter.

If I had to guess, KC didnt want bothered with taking Caylee to doctor's.  I'm sure if she needed to go, it would be Cindy who would take her.  JMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 12:26:45 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.

Very good point, Ann.  I have the same thing for my mother to do for my girls.   ::MonkeyWink::

If I had to guess, KC didnt want bothered with taking Caylee to doctor's.  I'm sure if she needed to go, it would be Cindy who would take her.  JMO. 
Where I live I can take my granddaughter to the doctor without a note.  However, saying that we all go to the same doctor so I'm sure that has something to do with it.  I have in the past had them get a notorized paper giving us permission to seek treatment if needed for an emergency when we took her out of state. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:27:23 PM
Maybe I don't get what you're saying.   When you fill out information at the dr's office for the first time, they ask you who the emergency contacts are.  Perhaps now they ask for any other person that may be responsible for the child during the majority of the day?  I don't recall seeing such a thing on my Ped's form, but then I haven't had to update contact info in at least a few years. 

Are you saying that the grandparents were emergency contacts, but the babysitter was not?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 12:29:50 PM
Maybe I don't get what you're saying.   When you fill out information at the dr's office for the first time, they ask you who the emergency contacts are.  Perhaps now they ask for any other person that may be responsible for the child during the majority of the day?  I don't recall seeing such a thing on my Ped's form, but then I haven't had to update contact info in at least a few years. 

Are you saying that the grandparents were emergency contacts, but the babysitter was not?


At my daughters ped's office I had to fill out a form stating the people that where allowed to bring her in for a visit in case I was unable to do so. I also had to write down a password that they would give and I also have to give it when I call for information or to make my daughter an appointment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 13, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
(((Nikki, feel better))).. 4 wisdom teeth at once is a *itch.
Hope he gave you something besides antibiotics and a new toothbrush  ::MonkeyWink::

percocet, baby..wooohooo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
Maybe I don't get what you're saying.   When you fill out information at the dr's office for the first time, they ask you who the emergency contacts are.  Perhaps now they ask for any other person that may be responsible for the child during the majority of the day?  I don't recall seeing such a thing on my Ped's form, but then I haven't had to update contact info in at least a few years. 

Are you saying that the grandparents were emergency contacts, but the babysitter was not?


At my daughters ped's office I had to fill out a form stating the people that where allowed to bring her in for a visit in case I was unable to do so. I also had to write down a password that they would give and I also have to give it when I call for information or to make my daughter an appointment.

I haven't heard of this before (except for perhaps at schools, etc).  Probably something more Ped Offices should be doing. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 12:33:33 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

I think she knew she was gonna get caught. I also thought that it was interesting when talking to her brother about areas to search that at first she say's "places familiar to us" I am sure Lee probably hung out in the area that other teens at the time did. Then she said "places familiar to our family" Her family would have known about the hang out spot too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:33:42 PM
(((Nikki, feel better))).. 4 wisdom teeth at once is a *itch.
Hope he gave you something besides antibiotics and a new toothbrush  ::MonkeyWink::

percocet, baby..wooohooo!!

I had 8 teeth pulled (4 wisdom and 4 bicuspids) just before I had my braces put on.  I think I got motrin or something.. LOL  (I was happy I got a week off from school, though!)  Feel better soon! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 13, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
Hey Boo!! Drank any "tea" lately?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 12:37:42 PM
My opinion of Kronk....  He did a good thing and is now being used to create reasonable doubt.  I believe him.  I have no reason not to.  He has brought out the dirt on himself just so that no one else would find it out.   I feel bad for him.  If he gets a reward for doing it, then he actually deserves it.  I can't imagine finding a body.  HE did a good thing.  ANd his reputation will now be slandered everywehere by people trying to pin a conspiracy on him.

Did Casey want Caylee found?  No.  She would not have sent out a search party for Caylee, even through a daisy chain.  That would not help her in any way.  In fact, finding Caylee is the best thing for the prosecution yet.

Did the PI's go out and look for Caylee's body?  Yes.  He was looking and working for the GP.  I hope his idea was to put her to rest.  Now, it is unclear what the motives are of these 2 PI's because one wants to make money and the other wants to deny everything.  And DC's lies are really bad.  He is not good at sticking to a story. 

Tim Miller is still the man. 



Yeah, these two guys actions are prime examples of no good deed goes unpunished .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


Does he have any teeth left?   Poor guy, that sounds mighty painful!

Feel better soon, Nikki!
   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I didn't say that!! Flossy said that!  ::MonkeyTongue::

OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 12:38:57 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.


 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 12:39:27 PM
I have a password registered with the pediatrician that I use when I take them.  I am also listed as a person to authorize treatment. Here, a minor needs to have consent to receive treatment.  This way, if either of the grandchildren are injured or ill and I take them to the doctor, he can treat them without having a parent present. I thought this was a common practice now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 12:39:47 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him  and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.

If you look at the photo he shared it appears that the snake is in the back of a pickup truck, not in the woods.   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: AzGrama on January 13, 2009, 12:40:18 PM

HE SHOULD SHRED EVERY SCRAP OF PAPER HE HAS REGARDING THE SEARCHES. 

Seriously..  he isn't legally bound by law to keep them, is he? Those people are volunteering their time.  They may never search with TES again, if there is no missing person in the area they live in.. so what would be the point to keep their information? Even websites online don't keep your financial information on record, if you don't want them to.  He can get rid of everything.  If those people never work with him again, they have no reason for Tim to contact them again.

TM said he had 20,000 records and Byazz wanted it all.  Hell, he couldn't afford to pay for the copies that LE made for him of the tips that he was so hot to have (that remain unclaimed and unpaid for), what's the chance he could come up with the money now?   As Klaas said, he is just blowing smoke.

Someone else mentioned Amscot.  I am still puzzled by all the time she "pinged" in this area.  Does someone know if this is a strip mall?  What else is there that would be of interest to her?

My favorite sound from the last court hearing....chains rattling as the slore tried to strut.

My favorite picture of Byazz....on the bicycle ala Pee Wee Herman.  Who made that photo....was it you Klaas?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Thanks for the link to the video.  Interesting view of timer55 - Caylee was going to turn three -  55 days from June 16 -
and then 3 pavers marked the spot where she was supposedly buried.   hmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 12:41:37 PM
Oh NikkiB ... I feel for you !!  Hubby just had 8 extractions last week. I may not FEEL the pain, but I do understand !!  ::MonkeyShocked::
*making you a cold compress and trying to be comforting !!*

Feel better !
Cyn


Does he have any teeth left?   Poor guy, that sounds mighty painful!

Feel better soon, Nikki!
   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I didn't say that!! Flossy said that!  ::MonkeyTongue::

OMG Cyn, 8 extractions! That's alot of teeth. Hope he's doing ok!
ROTFLMAO !!  I am not the only one who messes up quotes !!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
Yea, he got a plate, and now it is implants !!
Nikki... we got percocet as well....it really jacked him up just for your info.

sorry for being o/t... back to my corner now.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him  and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.

If you look at the photo he shared it appears that the snake is in the back of a pickup truck, not in the woods.   



Why even bother picking that thing up if it was dead. Why not just take a pic of it on the ground? I hate snakes I would  never pick one up dead or alive and tote it to my car to take it's picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 12:44:58 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.

What I fine disturbing is how do we know is Casey, Hoover and Kronk removed any evidence..
Just becasue Casey and Hoover taped the videos on those 3 days how do we know if there were other days they were in the area and didn't tape it..Why did Kronk wait unless late in the evening to call in his tips? How many times was Kronk in the area? They should all take lie detector tests ...The defense can't use the nanny theory but will they used to many players interferring the crime area...Reasons To Doubt... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: guideposts on January 13, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 

10/16/08 Defense Team Member Slips-Up On Nat'l Television Admitting Caylee is Dead Todd Black  A spokesman involved in the Casey Anthony case used the words “loss of a life” in an interview on Wednesday with CNN when talking about Caylee Anthony. This has caught the attention of the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office, which said on Thursday it requires further investigation. Here is the full quote:

“This is a very serious case involving not just the loss of a life of this little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen to Casey Anthony.”

WESH 2 News reporter Bob Kealing just talked with Black, who serves as a spokesman for Casey’s attorney, Jose Baez, to ask more about what he meant. Black said the quote was taken out of context, and that he was actually responding to a bad joke someone else made about Caylee being dead. He said he absolutely believes Caylee is alive. Spokesman claims he didn't say what he said.

10/22/08 Attorney With Death Penalty Experience Join Casey Anthony Defense Team  Miami criminal defense attorney Terence Lenamon has joined the Casey Anthony defense team. Two of the three high-profile murderers Eyewitness News knows he's defended are on death row. The other is serving five consecutive life sentences.

11/5/08 Attorney seeks to spare Casey Anthony from death penalty  Sarah Lundy Sentinel Staff Writer 4:33 PM EST, November 5, 2008

A Miami lawyer hired by Casey Anthony's defense team gave prosecutors Wednesday a report that outlined why the single mother accused of killing her child should not get the death penalty.

The 30-page packet highlights problems with some of the evidence, defines how details in Anthony's case does not fit the state criteria needed for the death penalty -- a penalty reserved for the worst of the worst homicides.

It touches on Anthony's erratic behavior after her daughter's birth that suggests signs of emotional or mental distress. The report ended with pictures of Anthony during happier times as a child surrounded by her parents and her brother.

"Casey Anthony is a unique individual. A close inspection of her case clearly supports not filing a notice seeking death," attorney Terence Lenamon wrote in a report obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.

The State Attorney's Office would not confirm whether it received the report, which is not public record. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie, who was reported missing on July 15. The body of Caylee – who would have turned 3 in August – has not been found.

Anthony told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter in mid-June. When she returned later that day, both the baby sitter and Caylee were gone. Detectives have not been able to locate the baby sitter and question whether she exists.

Prosecutors have not decided yet whether the state will pursue the death penalty. If they do seek death, the trial will be divided into two sections: the guilt/innocent phase and the sentence phase.

Lenamon's report addresses the sentence phase when the jury hears both why she should and should not get the death penalty.

Some of the reasons outlined against death include: Lenamon pointed out the analysis techniques used on hair and air samples from her trunk to prove decomposition are "novel, experimental, in the early stages of development, inconclusive and high susceptible to mishandling," he wrote. Even if the evidence is enough for a guilty verdict, it would not be enough to support the death penalty, Lenamon wrote.

Details of the Anthony case to do not rise to the level required for the death penalty, he wrote. She doesn't have a criminal record. There is no history of abuse. The crime was not cold, calculated and premeditated. In the months leading up to Caylee's disappearance, Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational."

He wrote that filicide – the act of a parent killing a child – is different than other homicides. The underlying reasons why mothers kill are complex and can be divided into various categories. For example, one type is a parent who kills under influence of mental illness. Another type suggests a parent's motive may be to save the child from real or imagined harm.

Juries are more likely to show mothers mercy. He mentioned Andrea Yates – a Texas mother who drowned all five children – was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison.

Lenamon wrote that experts will likely agree that Anthony as "suffering from episodes of extreme emotional distress and disturbance since her daughter's birth." Even the lack of emotion after her child's disappearance and arrest "is not normal," he wrote.

Lenamon also refers to other Orange County cases involving the death of a child. For example, Anita Simmons, who beat her 8-year-old daughter to death, got 42 years in prison.

"A careful consideration of the totality of the circumstances in this case leads to a clear conclusion that a filing a notice of the death penalty is no the right thing to do," he wrote.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 12:45:30 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told

OMG, remember when I talked to LP the first time and he was throwing all those random things at me? I listed them in one post. One thing he told me that I didn't list b/c it didn't make sense to me was that one guy took a dead rattlesnake home with him and something about maybe evidence being in/on the rattlesnake. He didn't think it was right the guy did that.

 ::MonkeyEek:: I have to run out but I'd like to hear more....bbl

Hope you're feeling better today Boo..  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 12:45:37 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

I think she knew she was gonna get caught. I also thought that it was interesting when talking to her brother about areas to search that at first she say's "places familiar to us" I am sure Lee probably hung out in the area that other teens at the time did. Then she said "places familiar to our family" Her family would have known about the hang out spot too.

Yep.  She seems to be telling Lee where to find Caylee's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 13, 2009, 12:47:41 PM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::
Yup...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 13, 2009, 12:50:41 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 12:50:57 PM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::
Yup...

Nope... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 13, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
forgot the link.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=122459029&blogID=463556442


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: AzGrama on January 13, 2009, 12:51:37 PM
Boo, did you hear anymore from ZG's attorney Morgan?  Just curious. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 12:53:15 PM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::
Yup...

Nope... ::MonkeyNoNo::
I believe that he did not have anything to do with Caylees death. However I have questions if he had some info leading him to her. I don't know....everything and everyone involved in this case is questionable at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 12:55:28 PM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::
Yup...

Nope... ::MonkeyNoNo::
I believe that he did not have anything to do with Caylees death. However I have questions if he had some info leading him to her. I don't know....everything and everyone involved in this case is questionable at this point.

Cyn, Your aviator brought tear to my eyes.. Beautiful Picture... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 12:55:46 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Grrrr.   That's pitiful.   They are more worried about selling this stuff than having a funeral for Caylee.   I hate those people!    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: AzGrama on January 13, 2009, 12:55:53 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

They are DISGUSTING!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 12:57:54 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 12:57:58 PM
I can't believe they're still trying to sell tee shirts!  These people need to realize that it's time to resume life as usual and go back to work. I'm sure that many of us here on this MB have lost a loved one and have learned that we have to go on with life. When I lost my husband in 2002, I didn't sit back and try to profit from his death.  I went back to work...hard work...in order to keep on paying bills. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 12:58:22 PM
Yes, I got up to watch. Kronk called in the tips at 9:30 or 10 PM on both of the first calls. Then met the officer on the 3 rd call. Officer looked but said he didn't see anything. There WAS water there at the time. Kronk said he just forgot about it.Then on Dec 11 they parked there in the shade waiting for time to go back to office. Said he went into woods to relieve himself and saw the bag again, so took a look at it. The pic he had was of a rattlesnake that was there on the first or second day.

hmmmm...just a snake pic...all that holabaloo for nothing.. There are others who can confirm that water was there, including Tim Miller so I don't think that is going to be an issue..

I'm surprised Kronk didn't take pics when he found Caylee's remains..I would have if only to cover myself that I had not disturbed anything..maybe he did and the media hasn't been told
That is how the media gets the viewers. I think I read on here last night that Kronk had some photos that were turned over to LE.....I hope he covered his butt.

For kronk to say "he saw the bag AGAIN" doesn't jive.  His calls were about a "white" bag; Caylee was found in a "black" bag.  How convenient that everyone keeps forgetting the word "white".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 12:59:08 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

They are DISGUSTING!

Your right the Sin-Anthony's and team are DISCUSTING- Its Not About Caylee- Its Money... ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 13, 2009, 12:59:55 PM
I am working from home today, sitting in front of the fireplace in my recliner with my laptop and coffee. I am working at home because I am sick, but it's a good thing, last night 15cm of snow and high winds!! Still really ugly out there!
I am really sad for Kronk and Tim Miller. These guys are just TWO of the what will be thousands of examples, of how anyone getting near this case gets as Tim so eloquently stated"body slammed". I like LP, but I wish in this regard he would cut the meter man some slack. The guy just doesn't need it!!!  The good samaritan law, as I understand, does not exist in Florida. If they want people to walk by dead bodies and ignore them, this is just the way they should behave!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 12:59:56 PM

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Cyn, Your aviator brought tear to my eyes.. Beautiful Picture... ::MonkeyTongue::
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Thank you. I found the girls on CCB's avitars and Brandi dressed them up for me. That's My Heather guiding Our Caylee and protecting her in Heaven.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: TxLady2 on January 13, 2009, 01:01:18 PM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

I've heard lots of people use that phrase, when someone asks if they know a certain person, they say, "No, never met them" as opposed to "we've met but I don't really know them."
I think if Kronk had never met the A's, it's doubtful he would have been talking to them on the phone.
Isn't LP the one who suggested his supervisor was a neighbor of the A's? So you think they talked to the supervisor about where Caylee's body might be? I assume that these calls Kronk made prior to finding the remains were not known to anyone outside LE, so how would the A's make any connection to Kronk or his supervisor? See where I'm going with this? Pretty far-fetched, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: littletxlady on January 13, 2009, 01:02:34 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 

I think GMA just inserted Kronk's pic into a random pic of a rattlesnake.
JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:04:25 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Grrrr.   That's pitiful.   They are more worried about selling this stuff than having a funeral for Caylee.   I hate those people!    ::MonkeyNoNo::
Again beyond words. One would think there lawyer would tell them to act have way decent. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 13, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
Yeah...but I would think a dead snake is a lot less scary than a live I can bite you in the a2# snake..You know what I mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 01:05:46 PM


Cyn, Your aviator brought tear to my eyes.. Beautiful Picture... ::MonkeyTongue::
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Thank you. I found the girls on CCB's avitars and Brandi dressed them up for me. That's My Heather guiding Our Caylee and protecting her in Heaven.

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That is so precious.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:06:20 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
What is the point of taking home a dead snake, take a photo of it, then get 20,000 dollars for it. I wonder if he took anything else home? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 01:08:49 PM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

I've heard lots of people use that phrase, when someone asks if they know a certain person, they say, "No, never met them" as opposed to "we've met but I don't really know them."
I think if Kronk had never met the A's, it's doubtful he would have been talking to them on the phone.
Isn't LP the one who suggested his supervisor was a neighbor of the A's? So you think they talked to the supervisor about where Caylee's body might be? I assume that these calls Kronk made prior to finding the remains were not known to anyone outside LE, so how would the A's make any connection to Kronk or his supervisor? See where I'm going with this? Pretty far-fetched, IMO.

I wasn't alluding to anything, other than the fact that I found the choice of words a bit odd.  As for me, I have talked to many people on the phone that I have never met.  If Kronk had said he had never spoken to the Ants, I wouldn't have noticed anything unusual about it.  As for "far-fetched" please tell me one thing about this case that hasn't been rather "far-fetched."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:08:54 PM
I have a password registered with the pediatrician that I use when I take them.  I am also listed as a person to authorize treatment. Here, a minor needs to have consent to receive treatment.  This way, if either of the grandchildren are injured or ill and I take them to the doctor, he can treat them without having a parent present. I thought this was a common practice now. 

My state does this.  There is no password, just filling out paperwork that is kept in the children's file for the doctor to see.  Same with ER, parent must fill out paper w/ signature and the person being authorized must sign and keep in case of emergency.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:09:55 PM
OriginalKat...For me this was my laugh of the day. Joy is like a pimple in this case, you think their gone and then you get another one. ::MonkeyHaHa:: That perfectly described Joy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 01:10:12 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
Yeah...but I would think a dead snake is a lot less scary than a live I can bite you in the a2# snake..You know what I mean?
      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 01:11:46 PM
The news report I watched last night at 11:00...think it was on channel 6...said that Kronk had taken time off from work on December 8th and the 10th.  The reporter is trying to get Orange County to reveal why he took time off.  The way it sounded, the reporter thought it was strange that he took off just prior to finding Caylee and what was so important on those days?
They had a meeting to get their stories straight  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry Folks but if I found a child's skull I'd be taking a whole lot more than a couple of days off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 01:12:31 PM
We all know that KC never thought of anyone except herself, so she wouldn't have been expected to register anything with the pediatrician's office.  But, if CA really believed that Caylee was in the care of a sitter so much of the time she should have thought of this, since she is a nurse. As a nurse, she would know that Caylee could not have received treatment from anyone other than a parent, unless an authorization was on file in the doctors office.  If she believed ZG was caring for Caylee, she should have mentioned this to KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: txlisa on January 13, 2009, 01:12:58 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys!

I am so disgusted that the A's are still trying to profit off their DEAD grandaughter!  Isn't it illegal for them to ask for donations?  Caylee is no longer missing, and there is no need for people to send them money!  If they need money they should just rob a bank since the OCSO has no interest in going after them for all the illegal crap they have done!  I am so sick of this family!  Grrrrr!

Lisa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
Yeah...but I would think a dead snake is a lot less scary than a live I can bite you in the a2# snake..You know what I mean?
      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
I wonder what he did with the dead snake after he took its picture? That is just to strange for me, and then make money off the picture. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 01:13:17 PM
The news report I watched last night at 11:00...think it was on channel 6...said that Kronk had taken time off from work on December 8th and the 10th.  The reporter is trying to get Orange County to reveal why he took time off.  The way it sounded, the reporter thought it was strange that he took off just prior to finding Caylee and what was so important on those days?
They had a meeting to get their stories straight  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry Folks but if I found a child's skull I'd be taking a whole lot more than a couple of days off.


Kronk took these days off prior to finding little Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: guideposts on January 13, 2009, 01:17:55 PM
Does anyone know if Caylee had a pediatrician that cared for her on a regular basis?  If so, any normal person would have given that doctor an authorization form for the babysitter to seek medical treatment for the baby.  My DIL has authorizations at the pediatricians office, allowing me to bring in either of my grandchildren.

Q  Hmm, when you were growing up you take any medicines or anything?

A  No

Q  No.  Ah, your baby take any medicines?

A  No.

Q  She needed any medicine?

A  Not at all.

Q  She’s good health?

A  She’s had one cold and it lasted two days her entire life.

Q  Yeah.  Wow.

A  She’s been extremely healthy.

Q  Hmm.  Pediatrician?  Who’s your baby’s pediatrician?

A  Dr. Silva.

Page 54 of 7/16/08 Statement to Police at Universal Studios with Sergeant Allen, Detective Appie Wells & Casey Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
ORLANDO -- The Orange County meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony is telling his story to the nation.

Roy Kronk, who found the remains in December, was interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America" Tuesday.

Kronk has been questioned by investigators, but he is not considered to be connected with Caylee's disappearance.

Kronk said that he first saw a suspicious bag in August while he was working his route. He said he called police three days in a row, and that when he was finally met by a deputy and pointed it out, the deputy said he couldn't see it.

Kronk claimed that the deputy didn't want to investigate further because the area was underwater at the time and because the area was infested by snakes. He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter helped him to recognize that something was not right.

According to Kronk, after the discovery, his life has been turned upside-down.

"They've been really hard on me. You try to do the right thing, you try to be a nice guy and you just get vilified. The sad thing is people actually believe some of the things being said.  I have nothing to do with this at all, but you listen to some of these conspiracy theories -- 'I've done everything known to mankind' -- I haven't done anything. I just tried to help put a  little closure to that poor child and she got a decent burial to end all this. That's all I tried to do," Kronk said.

Kronk told "Good Morning America" that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.

Kronk's appearance comes as Orange County investigators confirmed they have obtained a video, reportedly taken in November, of private investigators searching in the wooded area near the spot where Kronk eventually found Caylee's remains.

Jim Hoover, a private investigator who used to work for Caylee's grandparents, shot the video.

Hoover said the 10-minute tape speaks for itself. He did not make any further comments.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the video shows Dominic Casey, another private investigator, walking through the woods, poking into bags and talking on a cell phone. It does not show the discovery of any human remains.

The video was shot almost a month before Kronk found the girl's remains.

The Sheriff's Office did not release the tape.



There's just something odd, out of joint, not right with this whole thing with Kronk.

He called 3 days in a row in August.  Two of the days were at night: 9:30 and 10:00 p.m.

Called about white bag; Caylee found in black bag.

We also hear that he was in the area again late August.  We also hear he was there again in September.

We hear that while in the same greater area, though not the exact vacinity was where Kronk was calling about.

Not in the correct vacinity and not in the correct color of bag....however Kronk keeps telling his story about the bag as though it was the bag with Caylee's remains.

Simple fact...it was not the bag!!  Why doesn't someone call Kronk on his BS and shut him up!????!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 01:18:15 PM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

I've heard lots of people use that phrase, when someone asks if they know a certain person, they say, "No, never met them" as opposed to "we've met but I don't really know them."
I think if Kronk had never met the A's, it's doubtful he would have been talking to them on the phone.
Isn't LP the one who suggested his supervisor was a neighbor of the A's? So you think they talked to the supervisor about where Caylee's body might be? I assume that these calls Kronk made prior to finding the remains were not known to anyone outside LE, so how would the A's make any connection to Kronk or his supervisor? See where I'm going with this? Pretty far-fetched, IMO.

I wasn't alluding to anything, other than the fact that I found the choice of words a bit odd.  As for me, I have talked to many people on the phone that I have never met.  If Kronk had said he had never spoken to the Ants, I wouldn't have noticed anything unusual about it.  As for "far-fetched" please tell me one thing about this case that hasn't been rather "far-fetched."


That's true.  This whole case is crazy.    But, Kronk's supervisor lives right down the street from the A's.   I don't see why this theory is so far-fetched, since they do live near each other.    If the supervisor wasn't on the same street, then it would be a little far-fetched.   

Maybe the neighbor knew something, and wanted Caylee to get justice - and told Kronk what he thought about the location of Caylee.   Who knows....   It all just seems a little strange to me, still.   Can't wait to see what LE has to say about it all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 01:18:27 PM
I have been going through interviews of Dominic Casey and just find him not seeming truthful but I guess when you affiliate yourself with the A's that is the game you play.
He says he took photos of the area and gave to Conway. Well...why do you need photos to prove whether or not it is a teen hangout? The teen hangout thing is so unimportant. Also what does that have to do with putting a prod in the ground deeply at times? He tries to say he turned around and there was Hoover filming and he supposedly told him "James, that is completely inappropriate." Why? It is just a teen hangout right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:18:28 PM
Thanks trimm...backatcha  ::MonkeyWink::
Time to color my hair while the coughing has stopped...
I haven't been this sick in 15 yrs..
And I am the freaky type that keeps lysol wipes in a zip lock bag in my purse and that germx hand gel..dang snowbirds bring this gunk here  ::MonkeyHaHa::
How are you feeling BOO?

Still feeling like crap and coughing. I start work tomorrow and all I can do today is sleep!! You are right, I haven't been this sick in years!!! I just don't get sick!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 01:19:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18465511/index.html


RAW INTERVIEW: Lee Anthony's Attorney Talks About P.I.'s Video At Remains Scene

Thanks for posting these MomofaMarine  ::MonkeyWink::  By the way, I believe the video above is the one where Lee's attorney shows what an idiot he is.  This case is not short of idiots working for free.  ::MonkeyCool::

Hear! Hear!  (maybe that's the reason they're working for free)   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:19:44 PM

HE SHOULD SHRED EVERY SCRAP OF PAPER HE HAS REGARDING THE SEARCHES. 

Seriously..  he isn't legally bound by law to keep them, is he? Those people are volunteering their time.  They may never search with TES again, if there is no missing person in the area they live in.. so what would be the point to keep their information? Even websites online don't keep your financial information on record, if you don't want them to.  He can get rid of everything.  If those people never work with him again, they have no reason for Tim to contact them again.

TM said he had 20,000 records and Byazz wanted it all.  Hell, he couldn't afford to pay for the copies that LE made for him of the tips that he was so hot to have (that remain unclaimed and unpaid for), what's the chance he could come up with the money now?   As Klaas said, he is just blowing smoke.

Someone else mentioned Amscot.  I am still puzzled by all the time she "pinged" in this area.  Does someone know if this is a strip mall?  What else is there that would be of interest to her?

My favorite sound from the last court hearing....chains rattling as the slore tried to strut.

My favorite picture of Byazz....on the bicycle ala Pee Wee Herman.  Who made that photo....was it you Klaas?

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Afternoon Monkeys, I found the transcript from GVS last night regarding Tim and is fight to keeo volunteer info PRIVATE. I'm at work, so this is probably a hit and run post until later this afternoon-here it is:

Tim Miller from EquuSearch joins us live. Tim, what was the information you did learn about that area? What was the tip?

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know, this is one of the things that I’ve actually been with the investigators on. Unfortunately, Leonard Padilla said some things about, you know, what Jim Hoover came and told us, and it’s one of the things that I’ve been working with the detectives on.

Of course, the story that we got from Hoover I can’t really say what it is. It’s part of the investigation. But it was nowhere even close to the stories that you’re just reporting.

And you know, Greta, if I can say this real quick, I think everybody has just lost sight of what this whole thing is about. I mean, we find all these people out — all these players out here that are making money off this and exploiting this thing and just forgot about this little girl and all the work detectives have done and we’ve done and other people have done from the bottom of their heart. You know, it’s just saddening. None of these stories are consistent with anything. And again, people are exploiting this for their own personal profit. It’s simply disgusting.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, I’m trying to figure this out, though, because Jose Baez, the lawyer for Casey Anthony, who sits in the slammer tonight facing the murder charge of this little child who’s her daughter — he’s trying to get some information from you. What is he trying to get from you?

MILLER: Jose Baez, as far as I’m concerned, is not going to get one single piece of paper from me. Not one piece of paper.

VAN SUSTEREN: What does he want?

MILLER: He wants every single record…

VAN SUSTEREN: What is he trying go get?

MILLER: He wants every single record that we have. We have over 20,000 copies of paper, and Jose Baez is not getting one piece of paper. If the judge rules on that, you know, my attorney, Mark Nejame, that we will appeal that. We’ve got many reasons. We were never notified. I’m not going to put the information of 4,000-plus searchers out there with all their personal information.

You know what? These volunteers have been very, very valuable in the past on searches. They’re going to be very valuable in the future on searches for missing children. And will they come the next time, when they’re afraid that their information is going to be given out? We have not one piece of paper that will be valuable to Jose Baez in any way, shape or form. So I will fight this to the very, very end and — and you know — again, we’re going to fight that one to the very end, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you receive a tip on November 8th, your organization, that was the least bit instructive in this investigation?

MILLER: I’m going to answer the question that is yes. And again, Leonard Padilla went on another show and said that we got a tip leading us to the area. It was not to there by Jim Hoover. I can say this, it was close to there. And the reason he gave us, the witness he gave us was nowhere close to what you reported. And then, of course, Leonard Padilla went on to say that EquuSearch lost the — you know, lost the records and stuff.

And you know, I’m working very, very close with law enforcement on this. And law enforcement does have that written report from that lead that we got from Jim Hoover. So you know, all these stories are so inconsistent, it’s — it’ll just make your head spin.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tim, thank you, as always.

MILLER: Thanks, Greta.

1/12/2009 On the Record With Greta Transcript  Full Story at www.foxnews.com






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:19:51 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
Yeah...but I would think a dead snake is a lot less scary than a live I can bite you in the a2# snake..You know what I mean?

I'm afraid of tarantulas. I wouldn't even touch a dead one.  ::MonkeyTongue::  That's just me..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:21:15 PM
Puzzler... I'm with you, something is off with the calls, him finding Caylee's remains. If that was a dead snake found by Caylee's remains, he had no business removing it from the scene.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:21:38 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:22:10 PM
This guy was afraid to go any closer to the scene because he was afraid of snakes, yet he had a dead snake in the back of his truck? Is this right??  ::MonkeyEek:: 
Yeah...but I would think a dead snake is a lot less scary than a live I can bite you in the a2# snake..You know what I mean?
      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
I wonder what he did with the dead snake after he took its picture? That is just to strange for me, and then make money off the picture. ::MonkeyConfused::

It's not only strange, but it's also stupid.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 01:23:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/01/13/ng.secret.tape.cnn


Did D. Casey know where body was?


Basically, he did....he was on the phone with someone...he found the pavers and said (according to Belich) that it should be here.  Someone was telling him where and what to look for.  That's why portions of the video has been released WITHOUT SOUND.  You can see that D. Casey is almost frantically looking for the bag.  There is something "really wrong" with all of this.  Someone knew exactly where that bag was and was relaying that information either directly to D. Casey or to someone else who then relayed it to D. Casey.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:23:40 PM
GOOD MORNING ALL!

I just watched Kronk on GMA. he was very believable to me. Said the cop in Aug was rude to him so he just didn't care anymore. Then in Dec; needed to relieve himself, knew it was the same area & there it was! He said there was water there in Aug & the cop didn't want to go in the water to look in the bag!!??  ::MonkeyEek:: So the bag was visible then!!?? Water was gone in Dec; bag looked unusual to him, looked in & discovery!
He said he was trying to avoid this very thing by calling in anonymous & then revealing his background,too. He's been accused of every conspiracy under the sun & being a bounty hunter he figured the swamp there would be a prime place to hide a body. He was trying to do the right thing. He had a nice new haircut & all!  ::MonkeyTongue::

What does everyone else think? Believe him??  ::MonkeyEek::
Yup...

Nope... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 01:23:52 PM
I have been going through interviews of Dominic Casey and just find him not seeming truthful but I guess when you affiliate yourself with the A's that is the game you play.
He says he took photos of the area and gave to Conway. Well...why do you need photos to prove whether or not it is a teen hangout? The teen hangout thing is so unimportant. Also what does that have to do with putting a prod in the ground deeply at times? He tries to say he turned around and there was Hoover filming and he supposedly told him "James, that is completely inappropriate." Why? It is just a teen hangout right?
I wonder what Joy was saying to Dom Casey on the phone? Would she have maybe overheard info, since she is so close to the Anthonys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:24:58 PM
I have been going through interviews of Dominic Casey and just find him not seeming truthful but I guess when you affiliate yourself with the A's that is the game you play.
He says he took photos of the area and gave to Conway. Well...why do you need photos to prove whether or not it is a teen hangout? The teen hangout thing is so unimportant. Also what does that have to do with putting a prod in the ground deeply at times? He tries to say he turned around and there was Hoover filming and he supposedly told him "James, that is completely inappropriate." Why? It is just a teen hangout right?
I wonder what Joy was saying to Dom Casey on the phone? Would she have maybe overheard info, since she is so close to the Anthonys?

We know for sure it's Joy now?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: jennywong on January 13, 2009, 01:25:12 PM
Tossing in my 2 cents re: kidnapping charges against Kronk. Regardless of how the word makes you feel viscerally, kidnapping legally defined is fairly broad. The important part of Kronk having been charged with this, is the word expungement... this means when all was said and done, these charges were deemed NOT to belong on Mr. Kronk's record... a 2nd Judge makes this decision and it isn't done lightly.

As for kidnapping and how you could get charged with it... here's a made-up example: if I were to go to my ex-boyfriend's home because he was scared his wife was going to harm him... and if his wife was trying to stop him from leaving... and if I ordered my ex into my car (for safety) and drove away with him... if his wife called police and said I forced my ex (verbally) into the car and took him... and was using my clout as his ex to intimidate him into leaving his wife, and kept driving the car fast enough where he was unable to get out on his own... his wife could have me charged with kidnapping, because technically, that counts as kidnapping. Plain and simple. I would be arrested, charged, arraigned, and ultimately the charges would be dropped in court, and then another court would review the case to see if it merited being removed from your record. And in this case it obviously did.

This post is not intended to sound condescending. This is a tricky legal definition to explain well.

Kidnapping can also mean grabbing a person screaming & kicking and forcing them at gunpoint to go with you (which is what I always think of when I hear the word.) Cases like that don't get expunged.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 01:26:09 PM
Update: Video surfaces of search before Caylee Anthony was found
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Hoover, who used to work for Casey Anthony's parents, and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

Conway said he and the Anthonys will "come out with the entire story, as well as phone records, later on . . . It's not going to crack the case."

Conway accused Hoover of trying to sell the video to media outlets, though Hoover denied giving it to Geraldo Rivera on Fox News Channel, which aired it Sunday.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,197900.story


What does this mean?   Not that we would believe the Anthony's could "come out with the entire story"...but what phone records? ::MonkeyConfused::   Do you think DC was calling the Anthony's and the phone records will prove it so they are starting to cover their @sses?


And going after Hoover for trying to sell anything is nothing compared to Baez trying to sell an interview with KC for $500,000!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:28:48 PM
I can't believe they're still trying to sell tee shirts!  These people need to realize that it's time to resume life as usual and go back to work. I'm sure that many of us here on this MB have lost a loved one and have learned that we have to go on with life. When I lost my husband in 2002, I didn't sit back and try to profit from his death.  I went back to work...hard work...in order to keep on paying bills. 

yep!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:33:06 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Did you all see this video of Casey's body language from her court appearance last Friday? 

Interesting....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhJGBFAeg



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 01:36:06 PM
The news report I watched last night at 11:00...think it was on channel 6...said that Kronk had taken time off from work on December 8th and the 10th.  The reporter is trying to get Orange County to reveal why he took time off.  The way it sounded, the reporter thought it was strange that he took off just prior to finding Caylee and what was so important on those days?
They had a meeting to get their stories straight  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry Folks but if I found a child's skull I'd be taking a whole lot more than a couple of days off.


Kronk took these days off prior to finding little Caylee

I'm sorry.  Now it makes me wonder if he already found the little lamb then had to regroup before reporting the sad discovery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: TxLady2 on January 13, 2009, 01:43:39 PM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

I've heard lots of people use that phrase, when someone asks if they know a certain person, they say, "No, never met them" as opposed to "we've met but I don't really know them."
I think if Kronk had never met the A's, it's doubtful he would have been talking to them on the phone.
Isn't LP the one who suggested his supervisor was a neighbor of the A's? So you think they talked to the supervisor about where Caylee's body might be? I assume that these calls Kronk made prior to finding the remains were not known to anyone outside LE, so how would the A's make any connection to Kronk or his supervisor? See where I'm going with this? Pretty far-fetched, IMO.

I wasn't alluding to anything, other than the fact that I found the choice of words a bit odd.  As for me, I have talked to many people on the phone that I have never met.  If Kronk had said he had never spoken to the Ants, I wouldn't have noticed anything unusual about it.  As for "far-fetched" please tell me one thing about this case that hasn't been rather "far-fetched."


Okay. But why would he answer that he had never spoken to them when asked if heknew them?
I just don't see the significance nor do I think his answer is strange. If someone asks me if I know a certain person, I don't answer whether I have or have not ever spoken to them. They did not ask if he had ever talked to them by phone or otherwise. They asked if he knew them. He answered appropriately.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 01:45:38 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?

Plausible?  I think so.  As an aside re. the car:  our local UPS guy knows everyone in a 10 mile radius--no joke.  It wouldn't surprise me if a meter reader on the same route every month would note things/vehicles etc...esp if once a bounty hunter (among other things).   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 01:45:45 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?


I don't think DCasey is on the phone with Kronk.    Joy would be a better guess than Kronk, imo.        ::MonkeyConfused::

If DCasey had actually found Caylee's body - would he have contacted LE or would he have destroyed the evidence - and hid the body better for the Anthonys?   That is what I'm wondering...   What would he have done, if he had found her??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:47:07 PM
Did you all see this video of Casey's body language from her court appearance last Friday? 

Interesting....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhJGBFAeg



thanks for sharing that.  It's very interesting. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 13, 2009, 01:48:26 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Can we get a list of the names of the many requesters....GMAB
     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?

very plausible.  thanks for sharing that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 01:49:59 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys!

I am so disgusted that the A's are still trying to profit off their DEAD grandaughter!  Isn't it illegal for them to ask for donations?  Caylee is no longer missing, and there is no need for people to send them money!  If they need money they should just rob a bank since the OCSO has no interest in going after them for all the illegal crap they have done!  I am so sick of this family!  Grrrrr!

Lisa
I wrote CNN/Prime News, and 2 Florida News stations and told them this information. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?

Sure I think it's plausible, but wouldn't he tell LE this? Maybe he has? Also, I'm sure the PI would tell LE too that it was Kronk who he was talking too. Oh well, this is just the craziest case anything is possible. Hate to think what it's going to be like when the trial starts.

We're all going to be like this:
(http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)  (http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)  (http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)   (http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)  (http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)  (http://th264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/bumbel_bee3/funny-random/th_CRAZY-2.gif)

::MonkeyConfused:: cRaZy MoNkeYs  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
Good Afternoon Another Monkey, here is a treat:

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/tuna-can.png)
Hope you are having a great day, purtty kitty!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:57:20 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

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It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pinkbanana on January 13, 2009, 01:59:15 PM
BBL... ::MonkeyCool::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 01:59:27 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Can we get a list of the names of the many requesters....GMAB
     

Probably some sick people who want them as souveneirs. Why would people want something for a missing child, that was never missing?? Even worse, she was found, dead. Some people are just crazy, crazier than the craziest monkey!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 01:59:46 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


I am getting page not found for the last link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

It would be interesting to know the date from Facebook or MySpace she made a password change. Surely they have this info on file. Usually when you change your password, it will send an email, for security reasons. I believe she did this in an effort to make it jive with her kidnapping story. And if I recall, there were two stories, right? First the one where she dropped her at Sawgrass. Then the one where she was in Blanchard Park and a guy handed her a note, took Caylee and told her what she needed to do.

So, why change your password as a reminder of how many days you have? And further, how would anyone outside of the Anthony family know that 55 days is from June 16 until August 9. If it were a random kidnapping, in a park, with a note, like she said, then that person wouldn't know when Caylee's birthday was. And further, if she was 'kidnapped' on this day, June 16th, as a mother, you wouldn't forget the date, that date would be forever embedded in your mind. The world would stop and you would remember ever sound, every color, every smell, everything! Sorry Casey I call BS!  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 02:05:57 PM
Good Morning Monkey's....I need a little help with a theory  I am working on, Ok...first , what is the exact date that  the PI's were out doing their search of the woods?    Also thee was a time that LP went on NG and said, dont be surprised if the LE  already have a body,  what was the date of this show if anyone knows?
 
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:08:30 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


ALSO~Caylee WAS found between 9 and 1 on HOPE, in a backwards sort of way, the remains were behind 4701 and 4709 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:09:08 PM
Good Morning Monkey's....I need a little help with a theory  I am working on, Ok...first , what is the exact date that  the PI's were out doing their search of the woods?    Also thee was a time that LP went on NG and said, dont be surprised if the LE  already have a body,  what was the date of this show if anyone knows?
 
   

The pi's were in the woods the 15 & 16th of Nov. LP said it 2-3 days before Caylee was found, but I don't have an exact date. I'm thinking 12/9, but NOT positive. Another smart monkey will know!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:09:32 PM
Boo, did you hear anymore from ZG's attorney Morgan?  Just curious. TIA
Apparently I sent him the link to our front page to his blackberry, so he asked me to resend it to his reg. email, which I did. He said thank you and would contact me again later. Nothing else since.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 02:10:27 PM
I found it interesting that when Kronk was asked if he knew the Anthonys, he answered that he had never met them.  He never said he had never talked to them. Sounds like some of the "half truths" that we are becoming so familiar with in this case.

Right.  Never met them - but maybe he talked to them thru his supervisor?    ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

I've heard lots of people use that phrase, when someone asks if they know a certain person, they say, "No, never met them" as opposed to "we've met but I don't really know them."
I think if Kronk had never met the A's, it's doubtful he would have been talking to them on the phone.
Isn't LP the one who suggested his supervisor was a neighbor of the A's? So you think they talked to the supervisor about where Caylee's body might be? I assume that these calls Kronk made prior to finding the remains were not known to anyone outside LE, so how would the A's make any connection to Kronk or his supervisor? See where I'm going with this? Pretty far-fetched, IMO.

I wasn't alluding to anything, other than the fact that I found the choice of words a bit odd.  As for me, I have talked to many people on the phone that I have never met.  If Kronk had said he had never spoken to the Ants, I wouldn't have noticed anything unusual about it.  As for "far-fetched" please tell me one thing about this case that hasn't been rather "far-fetched."


Okay. But why would he answer that he had never spoken to them when asked if heknew them?
I just don't see the significance nor do I think his answer is strange. If someone asks me if I know a certain person, I don't answer whether I have or have not ever spoken to them. They did not ask if he had ever talked to them by phone or otherwise. They asked if he knew them. He answered appropriately.




I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this...just thought it was odd.  If I was asked if I know someone, I would simply say either "yes" or "no." I wouldn't feel the need to distinguish between whether or not I had ever met or spoken to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 02:11:05 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

It would be interesting to know the date from Facebook or MySpace she made a password change. Surely they have this info on file. Usually when you change your password, it will send an email, for security reasons. I believe she did this in an effort to make it jive with her kidnapping story. And if I recall, there were two stories, right? First the one where she dropped her at Sawgrass. Then the one where she was in Blanchard Park and a guy handed her a note, took Caylee and told her what she needed to do.

So, why change your password as a reminder of how many days you have? And further, how would anyone outside of the Anthony family know that 55 days is from June 16 until August 9. If it were a random kidnapping, in a park, with a note, like she said, then that person wouldn't know when Caylee's birthday was. And further, if she was 'kidnapped' on this day, June 16th, as a mother, you wouldn't forget the date, that date would be forever embedded in your mind. The world would stop and you would remember ever sound, every color, every smell, everything! Sorry Casey I call BS!  


Someone else on "another website" found that she changed the password back in May.  It indicated that there were 55 days until the group left for Puerto Rico.  This makes sense in my mind that she would count down the days until the trip.  It is very spooky though that there are also 55 day s between June 16 and Aug 9 caylee's birthday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 02:11:44 PM
Good Morning Monkey's....I need a little help with a theory  I am working on, Ok...first , what is the exact date that  the PI's were out doing their search of the woods?    Also thee was a time that LP went on NG and said, dont be surprised if the LE  already have a body,  what was the date of this show if anyone knows?
 
   
Nov 15 and 16 PI's video. The other question I am not sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
Hi,

You know, we always wondered why Jose was so nervous about his ex-PI being questioned alone. We only speculated but now that the video has surfaced, Could it be why?  


Casey Anthony's attorney concerned about police questioning of private investigator
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
6:04 PM EST, December 29, 2008
Casey Anthony's defense attorney wants a judge to appoint someone to oversee any law-enforcement questioning of a private investigator who worked on the case.

According to a motion recently filed by attorney Jose Baez, law-enforcement is "showing an interest" in questioning Dominic Casey of D & A Investigations.

The motion states, "there is a chance that such questioning would delve into privileged information."

Baez stated he hired Casey as an investigator July 28, and the service agreement between the two was terminated Oct. 1.

During that time, Casey "acquired certain privileged information that would be protected under the work-product doctrine and the ethical standards adhered to by licensed private investigators."

After working with Baez, Casey was hired by Casey Anthony's parents George and Cindy Anthony to help with their search, the motion states.

Baez is requesting a "special master" be appointed to oversee any questioning of Casey "to ensure that no privileged information is wrongfully acquired."

Casey did not return a phone call for this story.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-pi-122908,0,4441713.story






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:12:19 PM
Good Afternoon Another Monkey, here is a treat:

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/tuna-can.png)
Hope you are having a great day, purtty kitty!!!!



Awww, you're always so sweet, Da Spark!  :smt055

Mrow!  :cat:

I hope your day is going well?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 02:14:06 PM
A person on another forum talked to Kathy B and are now going to look for the abandoned house. I'm very curious what they find.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 02:16:40 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?


I don't think DCasey is on the phone with Kronk.    Joy would be a better guess than Kronk, imo.        ::MonkeyConfused::

If DCasey had actually found Caylee's body - would he have contacted LE or would he have destroyed the evidence - and hid the body better for the Anthonys?   That is what I'm wondering...   What would he have done, if he had found her??
As agressive as he was in the video I think if he had found her he was going to move so she would never be found. That way he could keep on having those out of state trips for a live Caylee sighting. The longer the family could keep up this live Caylee stuff the longer everyone else such as DC were in the news. Now he is uncomfortable being in the news because he is being questioned. His answers don't make sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 02:16:45 PM
Boo, did you hear anymore from ZG's attorney Morgan?  Just curious. TIA
Apparently I sent him the link to our front page to his blackberry, so he asked me to resend it to his reg. email, which I did. He said thank you and would contact me again later. Nothing else since.
BOO.I sent you nanners last night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Mtnmom on January 13, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
It seems hard to believe anyone would be interested in buying the shirts and stuff. Im guessing most folks still interested in buying that stuff is because they are into Murderabilia. Which I think is sick,but some are making a business out of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murderabilia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: littletxlady on January 13, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Klaas are you here?
O/T 
I have quite a few monkeys in my photobucket for any monkeys that want too look thru them. I am not sure where to post the link could you please direct me? Some may need to be re-sized maybe Brandi or CBB could dress them for whatever occasion. There are some really cute and unusual ones.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 02:21:22 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 

[Deleted any opportunity for the Scamthony's to make a buck]

OMG, I can't believe I did this, but I'm so torqued about these ghouls I sent the page and the link to Kathi Belich . I have never contacted the media about this case, but this was just the frosting on the shit-cake that is the Ants!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 02:23:25 PM
Sorry if somebody else posted this already.. this is somebody's theory, posted at WS.  I could see this as a possibility, perhaps.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3157253&postcount=6
Quote
Here's my theory
1. Meter reader saw something that made him suspicious in August (or perhaps he was the one that noticed her car at that spot in June and decided to go take a look).
2. he went there in August and saw things that did look suspicious. he called LE for 3 days and they either didn't come or didn't go all the way in cause they're afraid of snakes.
3. Meter reader feels something is there but doesn't want to get too involved as we could hear on 911 calls he was very hesititant to get very involved and call crimeline. Now we understand as he used to be a bondsman and bounty hunter and he knows how things work AND he's all too aware of his prior charge of kidnapping looking REALLY bad if he happens to find a body of a supposedly kidnapped kid. He's in between a rock and a hard place now, decides to wait and see if anything comes out on it's own.
4. By Nov. it's obvious nothings happening and the water has receded so he goes back. It's at this point that I think he found the body and a plan has been brewing for awhile. He's well aware of the PI D. Casey from tv exposure etc and has decided to call him with the info, which he hopes will keep him out of the picture and yet accomplish the purpose. He's the one on the phone to the PI trying to direct to the exact spot and giving him the info.

What do you think? Plausible? Not so much?


I don't think DCasey is on the phone with Kronk.    Joy would be a better guess than Kronk, imo.        ::MonkeyConfused::

If DCasey had actually found Caylee's body - would he have contacted LE or would he have destroyed the evidence - and hid the body better for the Anthonys?   That is what I'm wondering...   What would he have done, if he had found her??
As agressive as he was in the video I think if he had found her he was going to move so she would never be found. That way he could keep on having those out of state trips for a live Caylee sighting. The longer the family could keep up this live Caylee stuff the longer everyone else such as DC were in the news. Now he is uncomfortable being in the news because he is being questioned. His answers don't make sense.

I'm thinking the same thing....   I don't trust DCasey, at all.   I wonder if he would have taken Caylee's body with him - on a trip out of town - if he had discovered her?   just saying....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 02:25:13 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 

[Deleted any opportunity for the Scamthony's to make a buck]

OMG, I can't believe I did this, but I'm so torqued about these ghouls I sent the page and the link to Kathi Belich . I have never contacted the media about this case, but this was just the frosting on the shit-cake that is the Ants!

Good.   
I bet NG would find it interesting....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
Good Morning Monkey's....I need a little help with a theory  I am working on, Ok...first , what is the exact date that  the PI's were out doing their search of the woods?    Also thee was a time that LP went on NG and said, dont be surprised if the LE  already have a body,  what was the date of this show if anyone knows?
 
   
Nov 15 and 16 PI's video. The other question I am not sure.
A few days before the body was found. It was 12/9 on NG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
I wonder what will be found out about this abandoned house.  What was there?  Why was DC there?  Was Caylee ever there?  Could this be a "neutral place"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 02:25:51 PM
Klaas are you here?
O/T 
I have quite a few monkeys in my photobucket for any monkeys that want too look thru them. I am not sure where to post the link could you please direct me? Some may need to be re-sized maybe Brandi or CBB could dress them for whatever occasion. There are some really cute and unusual ones.

I post a link here:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2619.0 , AVATARS FOR ANY UNDRESSED MONKEY and CBB takes what she wants


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 13, 2009, 02:26:39 PM
The more I learn the more I have questions....anybody know?

If KC had already murdered Caylee by the time her friends went to PR then why didn't she go?

What did KC do all day every day when everybody thought she was working....Did she hang out at the mall, hang out at the park, etc....if she went home when CA & GA were working the neighbors would have seen her car....seems like someone would have seen her if she continuously visited these places.  I have always been curious of what she did all day long everyday.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 02:27:48 PM
Regarding the A's on selling the tshirts and bracelets....Karma baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 02:29:10 PM
I wonder what will be found out about this abandoned house.  What was there?  Why was DC there?  Was Caylee ever there?  Could this be a "neutral place"?
That's a really good thought, a "neurtal place."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 02:29:35 PM
The more I learn the more I have questions....anybody know?

If KC had already murdered Caylee by the time her friends went to PR then why didn't she go?

What did KC do all day every day when everybody thought she was working....Did she hang out at the mall, hang out at the park, etc....if she went home when CA & GA were working the neighbors would have seen her car....seems like someone would have seen her if she continuously visited these places.  I have always been curious of what she did all day long everyday.....

Like you, I have always wondered what she did all day along when her family thought she was working.  I wonder how precious Caylee spent her days? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 02:30:29 PM
The more I learn the more I have questions....anybody know?

If KC had already murdered Caylee by the time her friends went to PR then why didn't she go?

What did KC do all day every day when everybody thought she was working....Did she hang out at the mall, hang out at the park, etc....if she went home when CA & GA were working the neighbors would have seen her car....seems like someone would have seen her if she continuously visited these places.  I have always been curious of what she did all day long everyday.....
Writing her script in her mind. I really think she had everything covered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 02:31:40 PM
The more I learn the more I have questions....anybody know?

If KC had already murdered Caylee by the time her friends went to PR then why didn't she go?

What did KC do all day every day when everybody thought she was working....Did she hang out at the mall, hang out at the park, etc....if she went home when CA & GA were working the neighbors would have seen her car....seems like someone would have seen her if she continuously visited these places.  I have always been curious of what she did all day long everyday.....
That's what I wonder, someone must have seen her frequent a park, or store, somewhere. I have no idea about PR, except she probably wanted to hang out with Tony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 02:32:40 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 02:32:41 PM
The more I learn the more I have questions....anybody know?

If KC had already murdered Caylee by the time her friends went to PR then why didn't she go?

What did KC do all day every day when everybody thought she was working....Did she hang out at the mall, hang out at the park, etc....if she went home when CA & GA were working the neighbors would have seen her car....seems like someone would have seen her if she continuously visited these places.  I have always been curious of what she did all day long everyday.....

I think the reason she didn't go is because by the time the PR trip came around, she was hung up on Tony and wanted to be with him.   Plus, she didn't have the money for the airfare.

What did she do all day?   who knows??    Hung around her parents house - after they cleared out, maybe?    drove around....   bummed around....   We're all wondering what she did with her time!    Too bad she didn't try getting a job and taking care of her daughter!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 02:33:20 PM
Regarding the A's on selling the tshirts and bracelets....Karma baby.
I hope so.  I know some t-shirts were purchased, but weren't the last batches donated?  So, they are selling donated material to go into the trust (assumption on the way check information given).  Trust does have a provision for burial and also monies can be given to another charity.  Another charity, there are so many choices, KidFinders, Dominic Casey's non-profit, Never Lose Hope Foundation, and of course Cindy Anthony's newly formed foundation. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 02:40:28 PM
When I first heard about this case and learned about all of the computer searches for escort services, my first thought was that KC was working as an escort and that was how she was spending all of her time.  I kept thinking that might have been the case until I found out about all of the $$$ she was stealing from family and friends.  If she were working as an escort, she would have had her own money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 02:42:25 PM
Good Afternoon Another Monkey, here is a treat:

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/doglovinghiker/tuna-can.png)
Hope you are having a great day, purtty kitty!!!!



Awww, you're always so sweet, Da Spark!  :smt055

Mrow!  :cat:

I hope your day is going well?

It's all good except SEA SEARCHER IS (practically) IGNORING ME TODAY!!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 02:43:23 PM
Klaas are you here?
O/T 
I have quite a few monkeys in my photobucket for any monkeys that want too look thru them. I am not sure where to post the link could you please direct me? Some may need to be re-sized maybe Brandi or CBB could dress them for whatever occasion. There are some really cute and unusual ones.

I post a link here:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2619.0 , AVATARS FOR ANY UNDRESSED MONKEY and CBB takes what she wants

Thanks Today, yes that would be the right place!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

I don't know who's been giving her $$ but if it will make her fatter, I'd be happy to contribute!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
Thanks trimm...backatcha  ::MonkeyWink::
Time to color my hair while the coughing has stopped...
I haven't been this sick in 15 yrs..
And I am the freaky type that keeps lysol wipes in a zip lock bag in my purse and that germx hand gel..dang snowbirds bring this gunk here  ::MonkeyHaHa::
How are you feeling BOO?

Still feeling like crap and coughing. I start work tomorrow and all I can do today is sleep!! You are right, I haven't been this sick in years!!! I just don't get sick!!


 :smt056   Passing the cough syrup. I'm with you Boo,Last time my chest burned like this I had walking pneumonia.Did you go to the doctor?I had to get 2 injections.

Back on topic......Any news today?  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:51:10 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Right On! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 02:53:27 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


I am getting page not found for the last link.

Sorry, when I copied that is how it was.  Will see if I can find the proper link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 02:54:24 PM
OK...I have been working on something with several others and I know what I am about to say will probably get some bannana's thrown my way, but I will just have to dodge them and hope I dont get hit, because with everthing else going on with this case this is just about as good of a possibility as anything....and even better one if you think about it...


   First remember when LP first became involved with this case, I believe it was Jose that contacted him, if thats not correct then either way regardless how he found out he did speak to Jose several times after the fact, because that is Caseys lawyer and someone that he would contact if he wanted to put up the bond and find out more about Casey.
   Now after getting her out, LP promised the world that he would find Caylee and of course as we all know he didnt and his reputation started falling fast, and to save it he said he was gonna go off the bond and put Casey back in Jail.
   He really didnt do it until Casey was already rearested on the check fraud charges, even though he kept saying he was she still got arrested first on the other charges before he took his bond off from her!
    After that time he should have been through but he clearly placed himself smack in the middle if this case and wouldnt budge, for it is my understanding that he had decided right then and there that he was getting more attention from this case then he ever had before, and he clearly wanted to remain a part of it.
    He then placed himself at every public appearance that had anything to do with this case, and got irritated when Tim Miller wouldnt agree to help him with his BP search, he wanted the publicity and all Tim wanted was to find Caylee and so therefore he could already see what was up with LP and brushed him aside and LP sure didnt like that.
    Next LP did his search of BP and didnt find anything, and he got a lot of negativity from it, so he didnt do any more searches from (clues) that he said he was getting.

   Now what Im saying is..........I think LP is up to his  10 gallon hat in all this and I wouldnt be surprised if we find out that LP knew about the PI's doing this search before any of this came out.....Think about it, The PI's did the search in November and didnt find anything then shortly thereafter, because they were shure that this was the area that Caylee was in and couldnt find the body and knew that LE and Tim had already searched this area, Lp jump on NG and says  for no reason and just all of a sudden.....( dont be surprised if LE already has the body)...why...because they couldnt find it..thats why!   I dont know if Im explaining this is the right way because there is so much to say, but Im gonna act like LP and say myself.................Dont be surprised if LP has alot of exsplaining to do in the near future to LE! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 02:54:27 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Right On! ::MonkeyDance::

Maybe she spends her days writing nice little Thank You notes to all of her contributors.  Perhaps she's selling her "autograph" in return for one more stick of beef jerky. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 02:55:36 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

It would be interesting to know the date from Facebook or MySpace she made a password change. Surely they have this info on file. Usually when you change your password, it will send an email, for security reasons. I believe she did this in an effort to make it jive with her kidnapping story. And if I recall, there were two stories, right? First the one where she dropped her at Sawgrass. Then the one where she was in Blanchard Park and a guy handed her a note, took Caylee and told her what she needed to do.

So, why change your password as a reminder of how many days you have? And further, how would anyone outside of the Anthony family know that 55 days is from June 16 until August 9. If it were a random kidnapping, in a park, with a note, like she said, then that person wouldn't know when Caylee's birthday was. And further, if she was 'kidnapped' on this day, June 16th, as a mother, you wouldn't forget the date, that date would be forever embedded in your mind. The world would stop and you would remember ever sound, every color, every smell, everything! Sorry Casey I call BS!  


Someone else on "another website" found that she changed the password back in May.  It indicated that there were 55 days until the group left for Puerto Rico.  This makes sense in my mind that she would count down the days until the trip.  It is very spooky though that there are also 55 day s between June 16 and Aug 9 caylee's birthday.

Original Casey stated it was June 9th when Caylee went missing not June 16th which would leave a date end of July beginning of August.. I think 55 days (timer 55)to go on vacation to Puerto Rico (rico234) or maybe Casey was planning to leave the country to PR before all goes down she knew already in trouble with the stealing and the murder ...What about all the money she stole from her friend and Sin-dy where did all that money go...Stashed? Was the money accounted for? Learning spanish..To many unanswered questions...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 02:57:29 PM
I watched the other night a show on Discovery that got my attention when a man was convicted with the help of soil findings. It was interesting how they study soil for the area and even had a chart with color samples on it, mineral study, etc. His shoe print was on the trunk of the abandoned car with her body in it but he was her fiance so they had to go further to prove he was at the crime scene which was out in a field.

I think LE has had plenty of soil samples of the A's, area were body found and don't forget the trunk. That with everything else should nail this case.

ALso from NG last night and the expert who mentioned wiretaps have probably been in place for awhile. I think they were in place at the beginning when she was let out of jail and they brought in the machine to monitor her ankle bracelet. I think we will be surprised how much they have on everyone and what is the hurry on the A's? They aren't going anywhere. Everyday they don't have immunity is a day without them doing interviews.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: littletxlady on January 13, 2009, 02:59:46 PM
Klaas are you here?
O/T 
I have quite a few monkeys in my photobucket for any monkeys that want too look thru them. I am not sure where to post the link could you please direct me? Some may need to be re-sized maybe Brandi or CBB could dress them for whatever occasion. There are some really cute and unusual ones.

I post a link here:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2619.0 , AVATARS FOR ANY UNDRESSED MONKEY and CBB takes what she wants

Thanks Today, yes that would be the right place!

Thank you Today and Klass. I posted the link, http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/littletxlady/Monkeys/  there are way too many to post. I have even more but I haven't uploaded them yet.
Thanks again :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 13, 2009, 03:00:01 PM
Exclusive: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Denies Tip to Caylee's Body
Kronk Frustrated With Cops, Exasperated With Reaction to Discovery
By LEE FERRAN
Jan. 13, 2009


Roy Kronk, the utility worker who found Caylee Anthony's remains, dismissed suggestions that he was somehow involved in the Florida toddler's disappearance in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America" today ....

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6635154&page=1


WATCH: Discovering Caylee's Remains

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6635329



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:02:16 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Right On! ::MonkeyDance::

Maybe she spends her days writing nice little Thank You notes to all of her contributors.  Perhaps she's selling her "autograph" in return for one more stick of beef jerky. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:03:15 PM
OK...I have been working on something with several others and I know what I am about to say will probably get some bannana's thrown my way, but I will just have to dodge them and hope I dont get hit, because with everthing else going on with this case this is just about as good of a possibility as anything....and even better one if you think about it...


   First remember when LP first became involved with this case, I believe it was Jose that contacted him, if thats not correct then either way regardless how he found out he did speak to Jose several times after the fact, because that is Caseys lawyer and someone that he would contact if he wanted to put up the bond and find out more about Casey.
   Now after getting her out, LP promised the world that he would find Caylee and of course as we all know he didnt and his reputation started falling fast, and to save it he said he was gonna go off the bond and put Casey back in Jail.
   He really didnt do it until Casey was already rearested on the check fraud charges, even though he kept saying he was she still got arrested first on the other charges before he took his bond off from her!
    After that time he should have been through but he clearly placed himself smack in the middle if this case and wouldnt budge, for it is my understanding that he had decided right then and there that he was getting more attention from this case then he ever had before, and he clearly wanted to remain a part of it.
    He then placed himself at every public appearance that had anything to do with this case, and got irritated when Tim Miller wouldnt agree to help him with his BP search, he wanted the publicity and all Tim wanted was to find Caylee and so therefore he could already see what was up with LP and brushed him aside and LP sure didnt like that.
    Next LP did his search of BP and didnt find anything, and he got a lot of negativity from it, so he didnt do any more searches from (clues) that he said he was getting.

   Now what Im saying is..........I think LP is up to his  10 gallon hat in all this and I wouldnt be surprised if we find out that LP knew about the PI's doing this search before any of this came out.....Think about it, The PI's did the search in November and didnt find anything then shortly thereafter, because they were shure that this was the area that Caylee was in and couldnt find the body and knew that LE and Tim had already searched this area, Lp jump on NG and says  for no reason and just all of a sudden.....( dont be surprised if LE already has the body)...why...because they couldnt find it..thats why!   I dont know if Im explaining this is the right way because there is so much to say, but Im gonna act like LP and say myself.................Dont be surprised if LP has alot of exsplaining to do in the near future to LE! 

No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Right On! ::MonkeyDance::

Maybe she spends her days writing nice little Thank You notes to all of her contributors.  Perhaps she's selling her "autograph" in return for one more stick of beef jerky. 


I sure hope they don't sell any pepperoni sticks....that are about 3" in diameter.  She maybe getting ideas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 03:19:06 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:24:06 PM
(http://th153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/Lil_Princess_0325/Monkeys/th_smartmonkey.gif) HELP!! I need some help from you smart monkeys. I changed something under my profile, and now everytime I go to post it won't post right away, and I get some sort of warning message telling me: Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.  It's getting on my nerves because sometimes I have to hit post a couple of times, especially when it's busy here!! I know I changed something but now I can't find it, and can some REALLY smart monkey help me out. Hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm a desperate monkey. This has been driving me nuts all day today.

TIA smart monkeys!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 03:25:23 PM
(http://th153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/Lil_Princess_0325/Monkeys/th_smartmonkey.gif) HELP!! I need some help from you smart monkeys. I changed something under my profile, and now everytime I go to post it won't post right away, and I get some sort of warning message telling me: Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.  It's getting on my nerves because sometimes I have to hit post a couple of times, especially when it's busy here!! I know I changed something but now I can't find it, and can some REALLY smart monkey help me out. Hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm a desperate monkey. This has been driving me nuts all day today.

TIA smart monkeys!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'll fix it for you then tell you what it was.  I FIXED IT

This is the default setting and I believe how most everyone keeps it

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/messages.jpg)

This is how you had yours before I changed it back.  Note, you don't even get PM's so checking this box won't help.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/messageswrong.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 03:28:05 PM
OK...I have been working on something with several others and I know what I am about to say will probably get some bannana's thrown my way, but I will just have to dodge them and hope I dont get hit, because with everthing else going on with this case this is just about as good of a possibility as anything....and even better one if you think about it...


   First remember when LP first became involved with this case, I believe it was Jose that contacted him, if thats not correct then either way regardless how he found out he did speak to Jose several times after the fact, because that is Caseys lawyer and someone that he would contact if he wanted to put up the bond and find out more about Casey.
   Now after getting her out, LP promised the world that he would find Caylee and of course as we all know he didnt and his reputation started falling fast, and to save it he said he was gonna go off the bond and put Casey back in Jail.
   He really didnt do it until Casey was already rearested on the check fraud charges, even though he kept saying he was she still got arrested first on the other charges before he took his bond off from her!
    After that time he should have been through but he clearly placed himself smack in the middle if this case and wouldnt budge, for it is my understanding that he had decided right then and there that he was getting more attention from this case then he ever had before, and he clearly wanted to remain a part of it.
    He then placed himself at every public appearance that had anything to do with this case, and got irritated when Tim Miller wouldnt agree to help him with his BP search, he wanted the publicity and all Tim wanted was to find Caylee and so therefore he could already see what was up with LP and brushed him aside and LP sure didnt like that.
    Next LP did his search of BP and didnt find anything, and he got a lot of negativity from it, so he didnt do any more searches from (clues) that he said he was getting.

   Now what Im saying is..........I think LP is up to his  10 gallon hat in all this and I wouldnt be surprised if we find out that LP knew about the PI's doing this search before any of this came out.....Think about it, The PI's did the search in November and didnt find anything then shortly thereafter, because they were shure that this was the area that Caylee was in and couldnt find the body and knew that LE and Tim had already searched this area, Lp jump on NG and says  for no reason and just all of a sudden.....( dont be surprised if LE already has the body)...why...because they couldnt find it..thats why!   I dont know if Im explaining this is the right way because there is so much to say, but Im gonna act like LP and say myself.................Dont be surprised if LP has alot of exsplaining to do in the near future to LE! 
That could be possible, at this point in time, I swear anything could be possible, everything is so confusing, I do hope someday we find out everything, because I still feel this isn't going to a trial, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 03:30:22 PM
Exclusive: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Denies Tip to Caylee's Body
Kronk Frustrated With Cops, Exasperated With Reaction to Discovery
By LEE FERRAN
Jan. 13, 2009


Roy Kronk, the utility worker who found Caylee Anthony's remains, dismissed suggestions that he was somehow involved in the Florida toddler's disappearance in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America" today ....

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6635154&page=1


WATCH: Discovering Caylee's Remains

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6635329


Thank-you Janet, hope everything is fine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:31:26 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:32:24 PM
Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 03:35:35 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????
What brought the PI's there is....whatever they heard with being in the house and within close range of the A;s and hearing alot of stuff, possibly stuff they werent suppose to.....and as far as payment for their services, I doubt myself they were getting much from the A's and therefore makes it all the more believable that they might take a payment from LP!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 03:36:28 PM
Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

See if there is a way for Mr. Morgan to find out who put the Zenaida in the white pages?  Either Zenaide really lived there or someone put it there intentionally.  Would be interresting if Casey or another Anthony had something to do with it.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:39:07 PM
(http://th153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/Lil_Princess_0325/Monkeys/th_smartmonkey.gif) HELP!! I need some help from you smart monkeys. I changed something under my profile, and now everytime I go to post it won't post right away, and I get some sort of warning message telling me: Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.  It's getting on my nerves because sometimes I have to hit post a couple of times, especially when it's busy here!! I know I changed something but now I can't find it, and can some REALLY smart monkey help me out. Hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm a desperate monkey. This has been driving me nuts all day today.

TIA smart monkeys!!  ::MonkeyDance::



I'll fix it for you then tell you what it was.  I FIXED IT

This is the default setting and I believe how most everyone keeps it

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This is how you had yours before I changed it back.  Note, you don't even get PM's so checking this box won't help.

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So you fixed it for me Klaas?? If so, THANK YOU, so much. I know I was poking around in my profile and changed something, then it started doing that. When I went back to fix it, I couldn't find it. 

 ::MonkeyConfused:: Dumb monkey I am!!

Again, thank you Klaas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 03:44:33 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


I am getting page not found for the last link.

Sorry, when I copied that is how it was.  Will see if I can find the proper link.

Very interesting

Looking for more clues she might have given.

So far

Casey told everyone where she left Caylee clues so far

1.    Casey said she left Caylee between 9 and 1 – the property lines between the two corner homes on Hopespring between  the 4701 and 4709 addresses extended onto the adjacent property
2.   Family familiar and friend familiar area – way to school, neighborhood, and probably known to the family.
3.   Zanaida Gonzalez – A Zenaida lived at 4709 and a Gonzalez at 4701
4.   Close to Hope (when she said close to home we thought, she actually said close to Hope) Hopespring
5.   Sawgrass – the type of plant she dumped her in
6.   Steps – pavers from the Anthony home to mark the spot to either hold the body down or as a rudimentary gravestone marker


Anybody got other clues to the truths she might have told??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 03:47:05 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else think KC appeared to have put on a few pounds since the last time we saw her on camera?  I guess eating junk food all day can make a "porker" out of you really quick.  By the next time we see KC, she may be doubled in size.  I wonder who all these people are that NG says are still putting $$$ into her jail account. 

Just some sarcasm...maybe these folks are putting money into her account with hopes that she may purchase something....and may CHOKE TO DEATH.


Gramamonkey,I'll feel better about it now.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 03:48:41 PM

It's all good except SEA SEARCHER IS (practically) IGNORING ME TODAY!!

Karen

 ::MonkeyShocked:: I would never do that...I had to run out, just ask Boo...although she usually ignores me anyway  ::MonkeyTongue::

I grabbed the Globe..will post in a few minutes..nothing too exciting but something to read none the less...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 03:48:49 PM
Mark Hawkins My Space.. Casey Anthony the baby killer log .. July 5th-you have NOOOO idea how happy I am... ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.myspace.com/57156371


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 03:49:27 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 03:49:41 PM


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<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


I am getting page not found for the last link.

Sorry, when I copied that is how it was.  Will see if I can find the proper link.

Very interesting

Looking for more clues she might have given.

So far

Casey told everyone where she left Caylee clues so far

1.    Casey said she left Caylee between 9 and 1 – the property lines between the two corner homes on Hopespring between  the 4701 and 4709 addresses extended onto the adjacent property
2.   Family familiar and friend familiar area – way to school, neighborhood, and probably known to the family.
3.   Zanaida Gonzalez – A Zenaida lived at 4709 and a Gonzalez at 4701
4.   Close to Hope (when she said close to home we thought, she actually said close to Hope) Hopespring
5.   Sawgrass – the type of plant she dumped her in
6.   Steps – pavers from the Anthony home to mark the spot to either hold the body down or as a rudimentary gravestone marker


Anybody got other clues to the truths she might have told??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bigskygal on January 13, 2009, 03:50:16 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 03:50:38 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!


exactly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 03:51:46 PM
Sorry, I didnt mean to repeat that - meant to reply to it.  I have asked this before but didnt see any answer.  I find it very strange that someone who didnt want to get caught gave such accurate clues - has a killer in the past done it this way?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 13, 2009, 03:52:12 PM


 OS blog |Report Abuse |#176 1 hr ago

<quoted text>
It's funny you mentioned Casey saying she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1. In a weird way, it fits! Looking back from the wooded area facing the two houses, Caylee was left on a straight line between the 4709 and 4701 houses.
Remember when the authorities that were questioning her told her that everything she told them was a lie and she replied something like,'not everything'. Farfetched, but who knows how her mind works.
You have to see this video!

This is the video showing cell phone pings placing Casey at certain locations June 17 -19th

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equ...

Go to 1:38 of the 6 minute video. I shows caseys cell phone at the spot where the body was found!!!!!!!



please listen CAREFULLY to this part of the taped jailhouse visit between Lee and Casey….Casey most definitely is saying “HOPE” and NOT “Home” HOPE = Hopespring Drive.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationwor...


I am getting page not found for the last link.

Sorry, when I copied that is how it was.  Will see if I can find the proper link.

Very interesting

Looking for more clues she might have given.

So far

Casey told everyone where she left Caylee clues so far

1.    Casey said she left Caylee between 9 and 1 – the property lines between the two corner homes on Hopespring between  the 4701 and 4709 addresses extended onto the adjacent property
2.   Family familiar and friend familiar area – way to school, neighborhood, and probably known to the family.
3.   Zanaida Gonzalez – A Zenaida lived at 4709 and a Gonzalez at 4701
4.   Close to Hope (when she said close to home we thought, she actually said close to Hope) Hopespring
5.   Sawgrass – the type of plant she dumped her in
6.   Steps – pavers from the Anthony home to mark the spot to either hold the body down or as a rudimentary gravestone marker


Anybody got other clues to the truths she might have told??

It sounds like she could have given clues...true sociopath behavior..."clever and cunning"...imagine if she would have used her skills in an honorable way!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 03:57:25 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.
WELCOME  That is a good question, I don't understand that either. I also don't understand why Dr Baden said most of Caylee's remains were in the bag, when I thought they were all scattered about the area. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
Sorry, I didnt mean to repeat that - meant to reply to it.  I have asked this before but didnt see any answer.  I find it very strange that someone who didnt want to get caught gave such accurate clues - has a killer in the past done it this way?????


Killers have strange brains.  I don't expect to understand them.  Giving clues was probably half the fun she had taking the one thing she could away from Cindy that she hadn't taken away from her already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 03:58:52 PM
Sorry, I didnt mean to repeat that - meant to reply to it.  I have asked this before but didnt see any answer.  I find it very strange that someone who didnt want to get caught gave such accurate clues - has a killer in the past done it this way?????
I think she was taunting LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 13, 2009, 03:59:36 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!



exactly.

Boo Monkey so you are saying there is no Zenida living at that address? Then someone added it to whitepages.com. I wonder who did it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

First off, bigsky,

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The way I heard it, they stated that there was vegatation growing in the "skeleton" not in any specific bones, like the skull, etc. But yes, that is one way that they were determining how long the body had been at the site.

Again, welcome to the cage and don't be afraid to post! You did just fine.

Hello Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/01/13/ng.secret.tape.cnn


Did D. Casey know where body was?


Basically, he did....he was on the phone with someone...he found the pavers and said (according to Belich) that it should be here.  Someone was telling him where and what to look for.  That's why portions of the video has been released WITHOUT SOUND.  You can see that D. Casey is almost frantically looking for the bag.  There is something "really wrong" with all of this.  Someone knew exactly where that bag was and was relaying that information either directly to D. Casey or to someone else who then relayed it to D. Casey.



What if Caylee's remains were originally where DC was searching..then with the amount of rain that fell during Fay, the bag (which was sealed and contained some air) floated to the location that it was found in December.  So when DC went searching, based on info given to him by someone who only knew the original location, he couldn't find the bag and called his contact saying things like..."found the pavers" (which wouldn't float) "It should be here" ...

would that be feasible considering the amount of rain that had fallen ?? any Florida people ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 04:04:19 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!



exactly.

Boo Monkey so you are saying there is no Zenida living at that address? Then someone added it to whitepages.com. I wonder who did it.


It matches phonebook.com too.  A Zanaida may have listed that as her address at one time for some nefarious reason and Casey did the same thing we did to find the name of the people at 4709 and 4701.  She "left her between 9 and 1" is obvious now, as I always thought that was hinky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 04:11:10 PM
Here's the Globe article...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
I had seen FloridaKatz bring up the 'timer55' a few days ago.

Has it ever been determined what it actually represented?? Or someone's theory??

Sorry, if it was already posted, I must have missed it.

Here is an interesting video referencing  timer55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs


Very interesting.
Maybe Casey knew she only had 55 days to live her life before everyone would be demanding to see Caylee for her birthday.  Do you think she thought she could evade her family for 55 days from June 15 until Caylee's birthday on August 9?

It would be interesting to know the date from Facebook or MySpace she made a password change. Surely they have this info on file. Usually when you change your password, it will send an email, for security reasons. I believe she did this in an effort to make it jive with her kidnapping story. And if I recall, there were two stories, right? First the one where she dropped her at Sawgrass. Then the one where she was in Blanchard Park and a guy handed her a note, took Caylee and told her what she needed to do.

So, why change your password as a reminder of how many days you have? And further, how would anyone outside of the Anthony family know that 55 days is from June 16 until August 9. If it were a random kidnapping, in a park, with a note, like she said, then that person wouldn't know when Caylee's birthday was. And further, if she was 'kidnapped' on this day, June 16th, as a mother, you wouldn't forget the date, that date would be forever embedded in your mind. The world would stop and you would remember ever sound, every color, every smell, everything! Sorry Casey I call BS!  


Someone else on "another website" found that she changed the password back in May.  It indicated that there were 55 days until the group left for Puerto Rico.  This makes sense in my mind that she would count down the days until the trip.  It is very spooky though that there are also 55 day s between June 16 and Aug 9 caylee's birthday.

Original Casey stated it was June 9th when Caylee went missing not June 16th which would leave a date end of July beginning of August.. I think 55 days (timer 55)to go on vacation to Puerto Rico (rico234) or maybe Casey was planning to leave the country to PR before all goes down she knew already in trouble with the stealing and the murder ...What about all the money she stole from her friend and Sin-dy where did all that money go...Stashed? Was the money accounted for? Learning spanish..To many unanswered questions...  ::MonkeyTongue::

I watched one of the videos with Cindy explaining to the detective what Timer55 had meant. I'll see if I can find it.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 04:12:25 PM
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::MonkeyDance:: Welcome to the cage bigskygal!! ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. is anyone else having trouble previewing posts, and posting?? I'm going bananas here today!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
I never said, nor did I even imply, that TM was in it for money. I said he was in it for personal reasons having nothing to do with Caylee. Last I checked his daughter's name was Laura, not Caylee. I respect the work he does and think it's very admirable.  I'm not trying to "rag" on him, by saying that it's not all about Caylee for him. It's about Laura.  Always has been, probably always will be.

As for LE, it's a job. Probably they care about Caylee, but odds are very good that if they weren't being paid they'd be doing something else. However much a person cares about a client, a patient, or a student they serve, they're not gonna do it without the paycheck. Same with LE.

I don't think it's a putdown to say that these people are motivated by professionalism and a dedication to justice in general.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 04:15:14 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/01/13/ng.secret.tape.cnn


Did D. Casey know where body was?


Basically, he did....he was on the phone with someone...he found the pavers and said (according to Belich) that it should be here.  Someone was telling him where and what to look for.  That's why portions of the video has been released WITHOUT SOUND.  You can see that D. Casey is almost frantically looking for the bag.  There is something "really wrong" with all of this.  Someone knew exactly where that bag was and was relaying that information either directly to D. Casey or to someone else who then relayed it to D. Casey.



What if Caylee's remains were originally where DC was searching..then with the amount of rain that fell during Fay, the bag (which was sealed and contained some air) floated to the location that it was found in December.  So when DC went searching, based on info given to him by someone who only knew the original location, he couldn't find the bag and called his contact saying things like..."found the pavers" (which wouldn't float) "It should be here" ...

would that be feasible considering the amount of rain that had fallen ?? any Florida people ??

Good thinking!

SS, I am not a Floridian, but your theory sounds good to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!
Hope I am not repeating if someone has said this but LP made the comment about maybe LE had body on 12/9 NG, body found 12/11,  LP said that he was shown the Hoover film 12/16/or 17 so I think on his comment about LE maybe having the body was just that...his own comment and I don't think he had the knowledge of the video before that. LP is the only one besides some of Casey's friends who was and is willing to take a lie detector test when asked. I don't think LP worked with A's pi's but I do think the 10 days he and his people were there he learned alot that was going on and maybe it is more believable to me he has worked with LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 04:16:08 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!



exactly.

Boo Monkey so you are saying there is no Zenida living at that address? Then someone added it to whitepages.com. I wonder who did it.


It matches phonebook.com too.  A Zanaida may have listed that as her address at one time for some nefarious reason and Casey did the same thing we did to find the name of the people at 4709 and 4701.  She "left her between 9 and 1" is obvious now, as I always thought that was hinky.

I would know what time I dropped my daughter off. Maybe not down to the minute and second. But I would not give a 4 hour window as to when I could have possibly dropped her off. So to here her tell it it could have been in the morning or in the afternoon.  WTH? How could you not know at least if it was in the morning or in the afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 04:17:01 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 04:17:55 PM
Timer55 Video

Go to 3:30 and you will hear Cindy.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 04:18:17 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

OK, I'll try to post here if it'll let me! ::MonkeyConfused:: Anyway, I'm not positive they said the skull, I do remember hearing the bones/skeleton. The way the bones are, there are many other bones they could grow through (like hip bones, and shoulder blades, etc. If they did say skull it's possible if a very long vine grew through it, it could have still rolled while the vine were still through it. I hate to think about this stuff, but it's the only way to answer the question. Of course, I could be totally wrong. Just my guessing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/statement-given-to-police-by-casey-anthony-on-71608/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 04:20:46 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

Welcome Big Sky.  I'm new here too so we can hold hands and swing through the tree tops together ha ha.

As to the plastic bag:  as you may know some bags hold up way longer than others due to lack of uv rays and such.  Now imagine that the bag was mostly intact but had deteriorated underneath.  If there was veg growing on that part of the body, there you go--veg had gotten hold.  I've seen this a million times when the wind carries a bag to a hedgerow and I'm too lazy to go get it.  Then some months later when I go to finally dispose of it, it's all entangled in new growth.

Not to be maudlin, but was vegetation growing through the skull?  I can't recall.  I was just thinking it was throughout the other parts of the remains.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:21:02 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

OK, I'll try to post here if it'll let me! ::MonkeyConfused:: Anyway, I'm not positive they said the skull, I do remember hearing the bones/skeleton. The way the bones are, there are many other bones they could grow through (like hip bones, and shoulder blades, etc. If they did say skull it's possible if a very long vine grew through it, it could have still rolled while the vine were still through it. I hate to think about this stuff, but it's the only way to answer the question. Of course, I could be totally wrong. Just my guessing.

Grass and vines aren't the only vegetation. There's also algae and moss and lichens that could have grown even inside the bag.  Plus the bag was probably torn, and if so, then vines and grass and other kinds of plants could have grown right through the hole.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bigskygal on January 13, 2009, 04:23:14 PM
Thank you all for trying to answer my question. I know its hard to think about this stuff. Theres just sooo much information that gets thrown out there everyday with the news and all, I tend to get a bit confused sometimes about exact wordings. You are all so kind too, making a new person feel welcome here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
Welcome Bigskygal.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 04:24:15 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 04:26:45 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

First off, bigsky,

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-cage-green.gif)

The way I heard it, they stated that there was vegatation growing in the "skeleton" not in any specific bones, like the skull, etc. But yes, that is one way that they were determining how long the body had been at the site.

Again, welcome to the cage and don't be afraid to post! You did just fine.

Hello Monkeys!

bigskygal ~ That has always been a question that I had as well.  The only thing that I have come up with.....in my thoughts, is that there must have been a hole in one of the bags for the plant to enter, and being in the bag acted like a greenhouse, and continued growing.  Other than that, I cannot come up with a view....of the plants growing thru the remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
Timer55 Video

Go to 3:30 and you will hear Cindy.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs&feature=channel_page

Thank-you, your pup is such a cutie. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 13, 2009, 04:28:25 PM
ON THE RECORD - JANUARY 12, 2009

New Video Surfaces in Caylee Anthony Case
Tuesday, January 13, 2009


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Tonight, a new tape surfaces in the Caylee Anthony murder case. And here's the important question. What was this man doing at the scene, taping weeks before little Caylee's skull and other remains were found? Now, look at this video. A private investigator for the Anthony family captured on tape searching and ramming a metal rod into the ground in the very wooded area where little Caylee's remains were found. This video was shot over two days, November 15th and 16th, nearly a month before Caylee's body was found by a meter reader on December 11th.

WOFL reporter Holly Bristow joins us live. Holly, first of all, whose video is this? And I know there's a controversy over that ...

Transcript:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479750,00.html


Caught on Tape

Video:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3440674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479750,00.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 04:29:42 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Someone here remembered, and I can't find the original post, but originally Casey said she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1 with Zanaida Gonzalez with LE.  The homes are 4701 and 4709.  Just another clue, a BIG ONE!  If she followed that up with a reverse lookup at phonebook.com or whitepages.com she would have found the name Zenaida and the name Gonzalez at those two addresses like people here did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

Put another way,  if one put a strawberry pot in a plastic bag and left in a flooded area for some time, I can guarantee that sediment would gather in it and either aquatic and/or terrestrial veg seeds would eventually sprout in it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."



Love your post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 04:31:28 PM
I never said, nor did I even imply, that TM was in it for money. I said he was in it for personal reasons having nothing to do with Caylee. Last I checked his daughter's name was Laura, not Caylee. I respect the work he does and think it's very admirable.  I'm not trying to "rag" on him, by saying that it's not all about Caylee for him. It's about Laura.  Always has been, probably always will be.

As for LE, it's a job. Probably they care about Caylee, but odds are very good that if they weren't being paid they'd be doing something else. However much a person cares about a client, a patient, or a student they serve, they're not gonna do it without the paycheck. Same with LE.

I don't think it's a putdown to say that these people are motivated by professionalism and a dedication to justice in general.

I believe it's mostly about his daughter; but he also feels for people that are in the same situation that he was. And LE has a very difficult job & yes they get paid, they are professionals; but I do think that it has become personal for some of them. It's not hard to feel personally involved when you know the facts about these cases. To me, it is a putdown to say they are only in it for the money. I know alot of people that do things for others without "being paid"! Maybe you don't; So, Whatever!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OceaniaGirl on January 13, 2009, 04:31:45 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Fascinating post, Hudsunn! Psychology is one of my driving interests, and I think you've really made some terrific, insightful, and very logical observations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 04:31:54 PM
Hudsunn... Very interesting post, thank-you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 04:33:24 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????
What brought the PI's there is....whatever they heard with being in the house and within close range of the A;s and hearing alot of stuff, possibly stuff they werent suppose to.....and as far as payment for their services, I doubt myself they were getting much from the A's and therefore makes it all the more believable that they might take a payment from LP!!!

I've been trying to follow you too HH...2 questions

are you thinking it was LP on the phone with DC ??

your thinking LP, Hoover and DC were woking together ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 13, 2009, 04:34:36 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

OK, I'll try to post here if it'll let me! ::MonkeyConfused:: Anyway, I'm not positive they said the skull, I do remember hearing the bones/skeleton. The way the bones are, there are many other bones they could grow through (like hip bones, and shoulder blades, etc. If they did say skull it's possible if a very long vine grew through it, it could have still rolled while the vine were still through it. I hate to think about this stuff, but it's the only way to answer the question. Of course, I could be totally wrong. Just my guessing.

Grass and vines aren't the only vegetation. There's also algae and moss and lichens that could have grown even inside the bag.  Plus the bag was probably torn, and if so, then vines and grass and other kinds of plants could have grown right through the hole.

Another thing about the weeds/vines growing through the bag. I have put down that weed guard stuff, both the cloth type and the plastic type. Regardless of the kind, I always get a few weeds that break through, especially in the summer when things grow like crazy. In an area with as much vegetation like that, it's no doubt (to me anyway) that some weeds/vines grew right through and poked there own holes through the bag to do it. Weeds are just looking for the sunlight, and if the can break through something to get to it, they will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:37:16 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 04:37:19 PM
Timer55 Video

Go to 3:30 and you will hear Cindy.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs&feature=channel_page

Thank-you, your pup is such a cutie. ::MonkeyWink::


Thanks. Cutie pie of a pup.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 04:37:54 PM
Timer55 Video

Go to 3:30 and you will hear Cindy.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs&feature=channel_page

Thank-you, your pup is such a cutie. ::MonkeyWink::

Awww, thanks. Her name is Coco. She's all of 2 lbs, full grown. She's all sugar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:38:14 PM
Hello monkeys. I am new here so hope I am posting correctly. I have had a question for quite awhile, but havent had the guts to just get on here and ask. So... I was wondering if I heard correctly that they said that they knew that the skeleton had been there (where it was found) since June because there was vegetation growing through skull? I guess if that were the case I am a bit confused because the meter reader said that the skull fell out of bag correct? So how could vegetation grow through? Sorry if I'm not making alot of sense. I know what I'm trying to ask, but not too good typing it out.

OK, I'll try to post here if it'll let me! ::MonkeyConfused:: Anyway, I'm not positive they said the skull, I do remember hearing the bones/skeleton. The way the bones are, there are many other bones they could grow through (like hip bones, and shoulder blades, etc. If they did say skull it's possible if a very long vine grew through it, it could have still rolled while the vine were still through it. I hate to think about this stuff, but it's the only way to answer the question. Of course, I could be totally wrong. Just my guessing.

Grass and vines aren't the only vegetation. There's also algae and moss and lichens that could have grown even inside the bag.  Plus the bag was probably torn, and if so, then vines and grass and other kinds of plants could have grown right through the hole.

Another thing about the weeds/vines growing through the bag. I have put down that weed guard stuff, both the cloth type and the plastic type. Regardless of the kind, I always get a few weeds that break through, especially in the summer when things grow like crazy. In an area with as much vegetation like that, it's no doubt (to me anyway) that some weeds/vines grew right through and poked there own holes through the bag to do it. Weeds are just looking for the sunlight, and if the can break through something to get to it, they will.

True, QM. They can grow right through some things.  They'll lift rocks, too, if they have to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 04:38:33 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????
What brought the PI's there is....whatever they heard with being in the house and within close range of the A;s and hearing alot of stuff, possibly stuff they werent suppose to.....and as far as payment for their services, I doubt myself they were getting much from the A's and therefore makes it all the more believable that they might take a payment from LP!!!

I've been trying to follow you too HH...2 questions

are you thinking it was LP on the phone with DC ??

your thinking LP, Hoover and DC were woking together ??
I  dont think it was LP on the phone with DC, but who knows, he could have been.....and I dont think they were working together persay, I just think if they found anything it would have been LP that would have been the one they told what it was....and then they would have gotten there payment under the table so to speak,     What would they have gotten if they told LE (nothing)......self stisfaction maybe, but I doubt thar would have been good enough, and if they told LP and he did a search within the next few days, got the recognition for finding the body, and paid these two goons for the info, the body would be found and the same results if they had called police, only money for them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."



Love your post!


Great post Hudsunn.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 04:39:43 PM
I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 13, 2009, 04:40:15 PM
Karmaround up

I have been a miss for awhile on SM and I have been looking for you.
I have always remembered you for many reasons -
First your posts, 2nd your Felix the Cat and third your SM Name within Meaning

I think this is the Year .. my Dear Woman ... Karma is not only coming It's Here this year 2009  ~ I believe it, I do.
Thank you Deenie
My SM name means just that....rounding up the Karma,good and bad   ::MonkeyWink::
My Felix is always pacing and thinking,pacing and thinking.I love him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:41:40 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????
What brought the PI's there is....whatever they heard with being in the house and within close range of the A;s and hearing alot of stuff, possibly stuff they werent suppose to.....and as far as payment for their services, I doubt myself they were getting much from the A's and therefore makes it all the more believable that they might take a payment from LP!!!

I've been trying to follow you too HH...2 questions

are you thinking it was LP on the phone with DC ??

your thinking LP, Hoover and DC were woking together ??

It makes no sense for LP to work with them, unless he was working in an FBI sense of entrapment. These PI's were being paid by the Anthony family. LP WAS searching himself, and it WAS a big deal. Why would he go to the river if he already knew where the body was hidden?

Why have that whole big expensive search, and NOT look where they ALL knew the body was hidden? None of this makes sense anymore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bigskygal on January 13, 2009, 04:42:15 PM
Makes sense. Thank you all for trying to clarify for me!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 13, 2009, 04:44:31 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.

You can still have cremated reamins at a cemetery.  My brother was cremated and his ashes are in an an interment monument with a beautiful plaque and his name and date of birth and date of death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 04:45:09 PM
Timer55 Video

Go to 3:30 and you will hear Cindy.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaDizrpjs&feature=channel_page

Thank-you, your pup is such a cutie. ::MonkeyWink::

Awww, thanks. Her name is Coco. She's all of 2 lbs, full grown. She's all sugar.

She's cute - with a cute name.   One of my siamese is named Cocoa.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Fascinating post, Hudsunn! Psychology is one of my driving interests, and I think you've really made some terrific, insightful, and very logical observations.

Hey Hudsunn,

Great post! Very insightful. My question to you is, in your #3, you talk about Caylee dying. Casey states in one of her first jail calls, 'It's not MY fault.' Which could explain your thought. How would you explain her actions up to that point? What do the searches on her computer mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 04:46:12 PM
I just looked at and listened to the tapes referenced below, the timer55 and P.I. ones, and wow...the plot really thickens.  Three rocks or stones figure into it, huh? 

It is possible Casey told Lee a lot of stuff when she was out of jail and sent him coded messages later on.  But it is also possible the P.I.s used info on typical mothers who kill.  For instance, they usually wrap the child in a blanket for some other "comforting" thing.  They often put the body in water or in a familiar place that means something special to them or the child.  AND they often leave some kind of marker or memorial, however slight.  I suppose this means that even a monster has some deep-seated feeling about killing her own child and will do some predictable things. 

In other words, the markers and the blanket and other things might be assumed due to research or experience, not just through what Casey tells them.  That is also true of the plastic bag.  If you are going to dispose of a child's body, an ordinary plastic trash bag is the most obvious thing to use.

It does seem that when Casey tells Lee to look in "familiar places" that goes in direct contradiction to the family's theme that Zenaida had the child in some far-flung state.  I am sure at that time, Cindy was talking about the child being seen in Texas or North Carolina or even Puerto Rico.  So how could any clues be in familiar places to the family?

This obviously is an attempt to tell him how to locate the dump site and do something, which I assume to be move the body or make sure the body is never found.

As for the "55 days," I think that was not so much 55 days since she last saw Caylee, but 55 days that she had not been found. I can't believe that Casey or her lawyer wanted the body to be found where she had dropped it, but she may have wanted the body to be found in some other place, freshly dropped there, so it would like Zenaida had done it while Casey was in jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 04:51:12 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!

TM is a great man with a heart.. He has dedicated & devoted his life finding the missing ... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pegster57 on January 13, 2009, 04:53:29 PM

As for the "55 days," I think that was not so much 55 days since she last saw Caylee, but 55 days that she had not been found. I can't believe that Casey or her lawyer wanted the body to be found where she had dropped it, but she may have wanted the body to be found in some other place, freshly dropped there, so it would like Zenaida had done it while Casey was in jail.


I am much more cynical that you, LOL!  I think the timer55 was 55 days till the Puerto Rico trip she never got to go on after all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 04:54:18 PM
I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???

If LP had the remains, he'd have come up from the river and gotten that photo op.
I really doubt he was working with Hoover or DC, although he might have been watching them.

I think if he'd known where the remains were, he would not have kept it a secret. And that convo with TM bothers me more and more the more I go over it. He doesn't say, "we'll find Caylee together," he talks as if she's already been found, and as if the main disagreement is how to present the remains. TM says she's unfindable, but he talks as if coming up from the river with Caylee's skull in his hands was an actual possibility.  How could that be, unless someone already had the remains?

And if that someone were LP, then why didn't he do his little photo op? It really bugs me that both LP and TM talk as if TM refused to do a "money shot" for the cameras, when they didn't even have the body, so how could the shot even have been an option? Did someone already have the skull? Is that the deal? Was the skull in someone's possession already?

Looks to me like they're searching the wrong side of the street. But what if they weren't? What if the remains really weren't there, in November? Does that mean that someone had them, and then re-planted them? Would that harm the investigation a great deal?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
I watched the other night a show on Discovery that got my attention when a man was convicted with the help of soil findings. It was interesting how they study soil for the area and even had a chart with color samples on it, mineral study, etc. His shoe print was on the trunk of the abandoned car with her body in it but he was her fiance so they had to go further to prove he was at the crime scene which was out in a field.

I think LE has had plenty of soil samples of the A's, area were body found and don't forget the trunk. That with everything else should nail this case. ALso from NG last night and the expert who mentioned wiretaps have probably been in place for awhile. I think they were in place at the beginning when she was let out of jail and they brought in the machine to monitor her ankle bracelet. I think we will be surprised how much they have on everyone and what is the hurry on the A's? They aren't going anywhere. Everyday they don't have immunity is a day without them doing interviews.


I totally agree with you.  She will go down probably just by linking the "decomposing" hair found in her trunk to her daughter....I want all the LIARS in this case to go down too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
No nanners HH! Unless you're hungry!

I got a little lost at the end, but just wanted to reply. You think LP thought he was searching in the right area (having pi's search for him) but they were just off by the 150ft? He thought they didn't find her because LE already did? Just trying to get my monkey brain right here! I mean I wouldn't be 100% shocked if LP were somehow tied into this. I know he really wanted her found, but I would be shocked if the A's pi's would work with LP. Unless, in a backwords sorta way they asked the pi's to work with him. Nah, probably not!! <snipped>

   No Im not saying the A's knew that the PI's were doing anything with LP.....these people are money hungry and we all know LP has the money and so who's to say that its wasnt these buffoons that was the source of all os LP's clues to begin with, you heard them say the A's would be mad if they knew they were out there searching, but they were there for some reason and I can answer one question that has been asked several time today....WHAT would they have done if they had found the body.......tell LP thats what, and then watch him put together another search of this area on National TV and he would have been the one holding up the little skull for all to see...a national hero, just like he told Tim!!!     whatever!!!!!

Yes, I think this is possible. As long as these pi's left her alone, and didn't touch evidence. Which by the video we saw, he wasn't being careful one bit. If that were true and I were LP I'd be Pi$$ed at the pi's after watching that video. But, I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right about this. If LP were searching himself it would be a big deal, and everyone would know about it. Possibly he hooked up with them (like you said maybe if the price were right-not saying he did-just saying maybe), they may have done this for him. Still having a hard time believing it 100%, But, how much $ were the A's able to pay these pi's?? I dunno, it's always possible though, especially with this case!!! What would bring LP to this location, same question I ask whether he's involved or not-what brought the pi's there????
What brought the PI's there is....whatever they heard with being in the house and within close range of the A;s and hearing alot of stuff, possibly stuff they werent suppose to.....and as far as payment for their services, I doubt myself they were getting much from the A's and therefore makes it all the more believable that they might take a payment from LP!!!

I've been trying to follow you too HH...2 questions

are you thinking it was LP on the phone with DC ??

your thinking LP, Hoover and DC were woking together ??

My hunch - Padilla and the PIs are all plugged into Baez through somebody, and it's someone with $. IF we ever learn who that someone is, all these characters will fit into the puzzle. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 13, 2009, 04:58:59 PM
Boo Monkey...did you say John Morgan told you he visited the "Zanny" Hopespring address and the guy that lived there said there isn't a Zanny that lives there and he has lived there about eight years?

Just want to make sure I read that correctly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 05:00:45 PM

As for the "55 days," I think that was not so much 55 days since she last saw Caylee, but 55 days that she had not been found. I can't believe that Casey or her lawyer wanted the body to be found where she had dropped it, but she may have wanted the body to be found in some other place, freshly dropped there, so it would like Zenaida had done it while Casey was in jail.


I am much more cynical that you, LOL!  I think the timer55 was 55 days till the Puerto Rico trip she never got to go on after all.

pegster, I agree. Casey was all about Casey. And I think some of us are giving her way too much credit in the intelligence department. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 13, 2009, 05:01:51 PM
I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???

If LP had the remains, he'd have come up from the river and gotten that photo op.
I really doubt he was working with Hoover or DC, although he might have been watching them.

I think if he'd known where the remains were, he would not have kept it a secret. And that convo with TM bothers me more and more the more I go over it. He doesn't say, "we'll find Caylee together," he talks as if she's already been found, and as if the main disagreement is how to present the remains. TM says she's unfindable, but he talks as if coming up from the river with Caylee's skull in his hands was an actual possibility.  How could that be, unless someone already had the remains?

And if that someone were LP, then why didn't he do his little photo op? It really bugs me that both LP and TM talk as if TM refused to do a "money shot" for the cameras, when they didn't even have the body, so how could the shot even have been an option? Did someone already have the skull? Is that the deal? Was the skull in someone's possession already?

Looks to me like they're searching the wrong side of the street. But what if they weren't? What if the remains really weren't there, in November? Does that mean that someone had them, and then re-planted them? Would that harm the investigation a great deal?
Thats what Im trying to get across here!!!!!Lp didnt know the remains were in the woods at the time he did his BP search, the PI's hadnt gotten this info as of that time and maybe had heard something from someone in the house about BP being a possibility, then as time went on and more snooping was done they did hear about the Woods and contacted LP, he could have said, well the last time yall told me where to go it didnt pan out and I looked like a fool and so yall fo have a look and if yall find something  dont do anything, give me a call and then I will do a search and find her on camera and get the recognition for it and pay yall also! but guess waht they didnt find anything so LP didnt do a search, but then the PI's said...look we know for certain that this is suppose to be where she is,.......then all of a sudden LP says.....I bet the Cops did find her and jumps on NG and says that very same thing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 05:03:58 PM
Gee, you guys are putting me on the spot, now !  Pegster, you may be right about her still thinking of the Puerto Rico trip.

As to what she meant by, "It's not my fault" which she screamed at her mom.  I think she meant, "It's not my fault I'm in jail.  It's your fault.  You called the cops."  That is true of course, since Cindy got the ball rolling by dialling 911.  Cindy replies that it IS Casey's fault for lying, but I doubt Casey takes that to heart.

Now, to the computer searches for ways to use household weapons, strangulation or whatever Casey looked up, I think there is a good chance she was toying with the idea of doing away with her parents -- one or both of them -- and that is why she did those searches.  Maybe she intended to knock them out with chloroform and then kill them. 

It is a lot harder to kill a grown up than to kill a little girl.  And Casey had told Amy she would be getting the house and they could live together. That was in her mind, having the house and living there without her parents, especially her mother, breathing down her neck.  But I am no psychologist or detective, so don't give me too much credit.  I could be wrong.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
SS - Thanks for scanning the Globe article for us!

Welcome to the New Monkeys !!!      ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 05:17:14 PM

As for the "55 days," I think that was not so much 55 days since she last saw Caylee, but 55 days that she had not been found. I can't believe that Casey or her lawyer wanted the body to be found where she had dropped it, but she may have wanted the body to be found in some other place, freshly dropped there, so it would like Zenaida had done it while Casey was in jail.


I am much more cynical that you, LOL!  I think the timer55 was 55 days till the Puerto Rico trip she never got to go on after all.

pegster, I agree. Casey was all about Casey. And I think some of us are giving her way too much credit in the intelligence department. JMO.

Didn't some smart monkey say yesterday that it has something to do with computer identity theft?   That makes sense to me - considering it is KC!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."

WOW, interesting insight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 05:20:06 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 05:23:23 PM
Those P.I. and bounty hunter types are a breed apart.  They communicate a lot, it seems, and have very dark senses of humor.  They aren't fools, either.  They knew that Caylee was much more likely dead than alive and in some other state.  Their value systems are probably not quite the same as ours either.  I am sure they would have liked to have found the body and cashed in on it some way.  Everybody wants to be rich and famous nowadays.  But I don't think LP would have wasted time looking in the park and the river if he had known where the body was.  He was pretty convinced it was in the river and that he had a chance to find it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 05:23:51 PM
Gee, you guys are putting me on the spot, now !  Pegster, you may be right about her still thinking of the Puerto Rico trip.

As to what she meant by, "It's not my fault" which she screamed at her mom.  I think she meant, "It's not my fault I'm in jail.  It's your fault.  You called the cops."  That is true of course, since Cindy got the ball rolling by dialling 911.  Cindy replies that it IS Casey's fault for lying, but I doubt Casey takes that to heart.

Now, to the computer searches for ways to use household weapons, strangulation or whatever Casey looked up, I think there is a good chance she was toying with the idea of doing away with her parents -- one or both of them -- and that is why she did those searches.  Maybe she intended to knock them out with chloroform and then kill them. 

It is a lot harder to kill a grown up than to kill a little girl.  And Casey had told Amy she would be getting the house and they could live together. That was in her mind, having the house and living there without her parents, especially her mother, breathing down her neck.  But I am no psychologist or detective, so don't give me too much credit.  I could be wrong.

 


I think you are right on the killing of her parents, as I have suspected that for awhile. I don't see her as having any attachment to Caylee. So, the sheet and the gravestone markers seem to be for other reasons, like, sheet was the closest thing she could grab or the markers were for the person she was giving her 'clues' to. I think she's always felt that Caylee was a burden. When mothers believe their children are going to a better place or that they are somehow saving them, it is usually coupled with a psychotic episode. They kill them because they love them but it is usually followed by guilt, not necessarily remorse, but guilt which will manifest in crying. The emotion is directly linked to the event. With Casey, I see no emotion. No link.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 05:28:07 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.
A lot of crematoriums and cemeteries have beautiful niches where cremated remains can be stored.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 05:30:39 PM
Lucky, Casey is the closest thing to an emotionless cold fish that I have ever seen.  So you may be right that she felt not one ounce of remorse or guilt over Caylee. 

The posts about the various plants growing around and even through the remains were gruesome but also interesting.  It is not as if Lee or a PI could have gone to that site strolled into the woods and just picked up the bag and walked away.  It was very very full of all kinds of undergrowth, brush, sawgrass, whatever as well as mud, snakes, debris, etc.  It is very possible that vines, limbes, little new bushes, etc. had tangled the skeletal remains all up.  It probably took knives and others things to get the bag and its total contents out of there. 

Also, the skeleton was scattered, and it would have been impossible for Lee or anyone else to pick up everything from the bag and sheet and all the remains.  But they may have tried to do it.  If they really wanted to help Casey, they could have taken the bag and whatever remains they could get and thrown it somewhere else and then had someone find it and claim that Zanny threw it there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 05:38:20 PM
Lucky, Casey is the closest thing to an emotionless cold fish that I have ever seen.  So you may be right that she felt not one ounce of remorse or guilt over Caylee. 

The posts about the various plants growing around and even through the remains were gruesome but also interesting.  It is not as if Lee or a PI could have gone to that site strolled into the woods and just picked up the bag and walked away.  It was very very full of all kinds of undergrowth, brush, sawgrass, whatever as well as mud, snakes, debris, etc.  It is very possible that vines, limbes, little new bushes, etc. had tangled the skeletal remains all up.  It probably took knives and others things to get the bag and its total contents out of there. 

Also, the skeleton was scattered, and it would have been impossible for Lee or anyone else to pick up everything from the bag and sheet and all the remains.  But they may have tried to do it.  If they really wanted to help Casey, they could have taken the bag and whatever remains they could get and thrown it somewhere else and then had someone find it and claim that Zanny threw it there.


Good posts!

I've only seen KC cry a few times - when she learned she wasn't getting out of jail - and when Baez talked about her being "somebody's little girl".    She cried in front of C&G in jail - but that was when they were addressing her like she was still a little girl, imo.   She only cries for herself. 

I also believe that she wanted C&G gone - so she could inherit the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 05:38:54 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 05:39:26 PM

As for the "55 days," I think that was not so much 55 days since she last saw Caylee, but 55 days that she had not been found. I can't believe that Casey or her lawyer wanted the body to be found where she had dropped it, but she may have wanted the body to be found in some other place, freshly dropped there, so it would like Zenaida had done it while Casey was in jail.


I am much more cynical that you, LOL!  I think the timer55 was 55 days till the Puerto Rico trip she never got to go on after all.

I don't know the significance of timer55 or when she put that password in.  I didn't think much about it and I wonder if it meant 55 seconds to the drop zone perhaps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Fascinating post, Hudsunn! Psychology is one of my driving interests, and I think you've really made some terrific, insightful, and very logical observations.

Hey Hudsunn,

Great post! Very insightful. My question to you is, in your #3, you talk about Caylee dying. Casey states in one of her first jail calls, 'It's not MY fault.' Which could explain your thought. How would you explain her actions up to that point? What do the searches on her computer mean?


Not Hudsunn, but nothing is her fault if she blames her mother (or whomever) for driving her to kill her baby.  I also think that alleged perp could blame bad info on net--you know, she only tried to sedate the baby--not suffocate her or whatever.  As re. the searches re. household weapons?  I don't think that's gonna fly alone, but along w/neck breaking?  She's prob already figured she could explain that away by suggesting she had to search for ways to defend herself, her family, the baby 'cause she's the Lone Ranger fighting criminals who have threatened her kin.

Of course prosecution'd have to prove she was the one doing the net searches.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 05:39:58 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs



Maybe we oughta believe in psychics.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 13, 2009, 05:40:16 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 05:42:12 PM
I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???

If LP had the remains, he'd have come up from the river and gotten that photo op.
I really doubt he was working with Hoover or DC, although he might have been watching them.

I think if he'd known where the remains were, he would not have kept it a secret. And that convo with TM bothers me more and more the more I go over it. He doesn't say, "we'll find Caylee together," he talks as if she's already been found, and as if the main disagreement is how to present the remains. TM says she's unfindable, but he talks as if coming up from the river with Caylee's skull in his hands was an actual possibility.  How could that be, unless someone already had the remains?

And if that someone were LP, then why didn't he do his little photo op? It really bugs me that both LP and TM talk as if TM refused to do a "money shot" for the cameras, when they didn't even have the body, so how could the shot even have been an option? Did someone already have the skull? Is that the deal? Was the skull in someone's possession already?

Looks to me like they're searching the wrong side of the street. But what if they weren't? What if the remains really weren't there, in November? Does that mean that someone had them, and then re-planted them? Would that harm the investigation a great deal?


interesting that the SCULL was what fell out...supposedly... just the SCULL fell out...
so actually... who ever FOUND it ... could have HELD the tiny scull up and gotten the BIG SHOT ....

sick..

so how would they KNOW that they COULD hold up the tiny scull... i mean.. how would they KNOW that the scull wouldnt be right with the rest of the skeleton... and WAS IT? i hear differering things... skull fell out of BLACK bag (which D.CASEY WAS poking around in black bags) .... meterreaderdude says it was WHITE bag that caught his eye? ... ive heard the skeleton was scattered bones...???

who knows... all i know is that this ALL stinks... and i dont trust ANYone...

sorry..

begin the banana toss now ...:(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 13, 2009, 05:42:15 PM
Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

My Rant ~  :shock:
Probably wont be my last ........ I love My Monkeys
Thank you for listening Rawr
K
 


Loved your post, Deenie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 05:42:26 PM
Lucky, Casey is the closest thing to an emotionless cold fish that I have ever seen.  So you may be right that she felt not one ounce of remorse or guilt over Caylee. 

The posts about the various plants growing around and even through the remains were gruesome but also interesting.  It is not as if Lee or a PI could have gone to that site strolled into the woods and just picked up the bag and walked away.  It was very very full of all kinds of undergrowth, brush, sawgrass, whatever as well as mud, snakes, debris, etc.  It is very possible that vines, limbes, little new bushes, etc. had tangled the skeletal remains all up.  It probably took knives and others things to get the bag and its total contents out of there. 

Also, the skeleton was scattered, and it would have been impossible for Lee or anyone else to pick up everything from the bag and sheet and all the remains.  But they may have tried to do it.  If they really wanted to help Casey, they could have taken the bag and whatever remains they could get and thrown it somewhere else and then had someone find it and claim that Zanny threw it there.


Good posts!

I've only seen KC cry a few times - when she learned she wasn't getting out of jail - and when Baez talked about her being "somebody's little girl".    She cried in front of C&G in jail - but that was when they were addressing her like she was still a little girl, imo.   She only cries for herself. 

I also believe that she wanted C&G gone - so she could inherit the house.


Sassy,I think she wanted her parents gone too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bowtiegirl on January 13, 2009, 05:42:31 PM
Gee, you guys are putting me on the spot, now !  Pegster, you may be right about her still thinking of the Puerto Rico trip.

As to what she meant by, "It's not my fault" which she screamed at her mom.  I think she meant, "It's not my fault I'm in jail.  It's your fault.  You called the cops."  That is true of course, since Cindy got the ball rolling by dialling 911.  Cindy replies that it IS Casey's fault for lying, but I doubt Casey takes that to heart.

Now, to the computer searches for ways to use household weapons, strangulation or whatever Casey looked up, I think there is a good chance she was toying with the idea of doing away with her parents -- one or both of them -- and that is why she did those searches.  Maybe she intended to knock them out with chloroform and then kill them. 

It is a lot harder to kill a grown up than to kill a little girl.  And Casey had told Amy she would be getting the house and they could live together. That was in her mind, having the house and living there without her parents, especially her mother, breathing down her neck.  But I am no psychologist or detective, so don't give me too much credit.  I could be wrong.

 


Just had to log in and tell you how great I think that your post(s) are.  You have such a great insight and look forward to your logic & reasonings.   I also think that Casey was planning on killing more than just Caylee.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: numbersgirl on January 13, 2009, 05:42:37 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.
A lot of crematoriums and cemeteries have beautiful niches where cremated remains can be stored.



I'm sure each state has their own laws regarding burial....but when my parents passed away it was their wish to be cremated.  Their ashes were put in an urn and the urn was burried in our local cemetery and a regular marker placed there.  Our cemetery allows two urns in each plot...it's a very effective way to save space in our local cemetery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 05:42:55 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


Thanks for the link Scatty.

That's interesting.     Can't wait to see if they can back up her claim with the cell phone records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 13, 2009, 05:44:05 PM
found this at the link listed below:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/26/ng.01.html

re: casey interrogation tapes

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And according to your statement back on August 9 -- I`m sorry -- back on June 9, 2008, you took Casey (SIC) to a baby-sitter`s house.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.

the june 9th again....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 05:48:35 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Hi blurry!    ::MonkeyCool::

I also think they are negotiating, Kat-Gram.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 05:54:49 PM
Hey Blurrymonkey.  ::MonkeyDance:: I see you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 05:55:05 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs

I Googled this woman and nothing, so just how did the Anthony's hear about her.  The Anthony's send her a Teddy Bear but wouldn't give Tim Miller something of Caylee's so a dog could search.  What about all the other psychics that contacted Dominic Casey, did he go follow up on each one? -- Don't think so. 

I hope this woman is lawyered up, because IMHO she is going to need one. 

It's all
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2a95jxu.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 05:55:58 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........

Why on earth would anybody buy Caylee's ashes? Photos I could see, because those can be used in books and articles. But ashes?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."

WOW, interesting insight

the 9 to 1 comment.  Now that could be 9AM to 1PM....I took it to be the addresses on Hopespring  .... 470(9) ...470(1)  .......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 05:57:59 PM
Maybe the pavers had some deeper meaning to KC. Maybe they were like grave markers and the number of pavers represented the number of victims she was planning on burying.....ooh what a gruesome thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 05:58:44 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs



Maybe we oughta believe in psychics.

Interesting that the psychic says she was working through an "intermediary." Also interesting that she says the A family sent her a teddy bear, something of Caylee's so she could get vibes from it (psychometrics) but the A's wouldn't give anything of Caylee's to Tim Miller to help the dogs with Caylee's scent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Anninflorida on January 13, 2009, 06:00:40 PM
I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 06:03:37 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Hmm. Thanks Klaas. But I wonder why did DC not say so from the outset, instead of bringing up his sick daughter, Kio Torres tip etc. Something still doesn't sit right. And I do believe that he told Hoover they were going to find the body. Why would he have been so certain on just a psychic's tip? I'm sure there must have been several similar tips.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:04:08 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html



Thanks Klaas.That's interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 06:07:21 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html
Thanks I found nothing with a Google search, but the name was a little off on the report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 06:08:44 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Hmm. Thanks Klaas. But I wonder why did DC not say so from the outset, instead of bringing up his sick daughter, Kio Torres tip etc. Something still doesn't sit right. And I do believe that he told Hoover they were going to find the body. Why would he have been so certain on just a psychic's tip? I'm sure there must have been several similar tips.

I wonder as well.  I'd like to hold off judgement on this until D Casey's phone records are public.  Not sure if I believe this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Does anyone remember the numbers she had listed in her phone that were actually neighbor's phone numbers?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
OOOooooo SNAP    Michael Boden reveals that probe measures for buried bodies not surface bodies!!  DC WAS TRYING TO LOCATE THE REMAINS!
I just heard that. ::MonkeyEek::

I missed this...so is it verified that he was using a DNA probe? Or were they just saying IF he was using a DNA probe.  Or is it some other type of probe altogether?   TIA!   

This could simply mean that he really wanted that $250,000 reward that had been advertised. It's also quite possible that it really is Gale St. John talking to him on the other end--perhaps they had agree to split the reward money if, between his actual discussions and observations with the family, and her psychic impressions, they could locate the remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 06:08:59 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........

Why on earth would anybody buy Caylee's ashes? Photos I could see, because those can be used in books and articles. But ashes?

I unfortunately  ::MonkeyWaa:: have to agree with the A's lawyer as far as burying the remains. I had thought of this myself, before he mentioned it, that her remains if not cremated, might be dug up and sold by ghouls out to make a buck. IMO cremation is the best alternative. I don't think the A's would let the ashes out of their custody (unless Baez has been given custody) not only because they loved Caylee, but also because they would not want to be  perceived as such opportunists (at least any more than they currently are.
I Casey has given Baez custody of the ashes, all bets are off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.

Scary thought, eh?  ::MonkeyEek::

Here she hated her mother to the point of killing Caylee to keep her mother from getting her. States her thoughts of getting the house while her mother has mental issues, moves out to who knows where, etc. Neckbreaking, yeah, that was for Cindy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 06:11:09 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 06:11:17 PM
this morning the meterreaderdude said NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED..

i couldnt help but wonder why he didnt search MORE when he WASNT working... if he was searching WHILE he was on company time... why wouldnt he join the search  on HIS time..or even search BY himself any OTHER time...


i dunno... i just get a bad vibe from that guy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:11:29 PM
I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.


That's exactly what my sister said to me.I bet Cindy knows it deep down inside too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 06:12:27 PM
I just gotta start using the preview option or spell check.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:13:09 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 06:15:38 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs

here is her website.........

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html (http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html)

I don't understand why she didn't come out even before the video was reported. I would think once the body was found...Suburban Road...she would have made it known she had the dream. I have to think about this one.

I haven't read her site yet..just passing on and going back to reading.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 06:16:15 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
Good looking couple !!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 06:16:42 PM
It struck me strange that Dominic Casey has D & A CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING, INC and Ginette Lucas this in her description "The foundation of the company is a professional surveying and consulting company."

Is it possible that these two know each other through the construction connection? 

One more thing:
Matacia Global Services
Louis Matacia and Ginette Lucas
Certified Professional Dowsers and Psychic Consultants
Phone: 703.772.1552     email@paranormaladvisors.com

A full-service Consulting Team in the Paranormal - utiliazing psychic and dowsing skills.
Police Cases • Water Locations • Media Interviews • Film Advisors
Credentials and References Available.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:18:55 PM
I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.

Scary thought, eh?  ::MonkeyEek::

Here she hated her mother to the point of killing Caylee to keep her mother from getting her. States her thoughts of getting the house while her mother has mental issues, moves out to who knows where, etc. Neckbreaking, yeah, that was for Cindy!

Maybe that's the real reason that George bought the gun!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:19:45 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?

Super cute! But I think we've been over this before. The real eye candy in the picture is you, Sassy.  ::MonkeyWink::   :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Wow.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:21:02 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
Good looking couple !!   ::MonkeyWink::

aww.  thanks.  I'm lucky.  He's got a big heart.    We've only been married about 10 years - and my three girls love him to death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Wow.  ::MonkeyShocked::

wftv reports
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 06:22:29 PM
Sassy, you two make a great looking couple.  Whoda thunk it - our Sassy's a hottie!!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 06:22:33 PM
Have a question after viewing the youtube about the timer55 Casey also gave Lee a different password which was cays234 I think. Has anyone decoded that one? The link is a few pages back to the video. She said her passwords had a meaning to them of significance. Any ideas?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:23:21 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
Good looking couple !!   ::MonkeyWink::


I agree.Nice looking couple.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:24:07 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:24:50 PM
NAPLES — The story of a missing 6-year-old Immokalee boy continues to gain a national following.

Nancy Grace, who interviewed Lt. Tom Smith of the Collier County Sheriff’s Office on Monday night, is planning to interview a Naples Daily News editor tonight, as her show on CNN continues to following the disappearance of Adji Desir.

Jay Schlichter, an assistant content editor for the newspaper, is scheduled to be a guest on the show at 8 p.m. Tuesday.


Collier County Sheriff Kevin J. Rambosk will also appear on CNN Headline News at 5:45 p.m. to speak about the case and Smith, a lead investigator in the case, is expected to rejoin the Nancy Grace show tonight.

 ::MonkeyDance::


I have been out all day.  Anyone wish to give me the Cliff Notes on the PR house?
TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 06:26:38 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Wow.  ::MonkeyShocked::

 .."had to go before Kathi was finished. She very kindly asked me to not post anything about this so that she could get the exclusive. I was happy to do so. It just about killed me, but I was happy to do it."



so.. MY question IS...IF she SAID she wasnt going to POST ANYTHING ABOUT THIS... and she was HAPPY to DO so... ... why WHY WHY is she POSTING about it?


clueless in seattle... okay..not seattle... idaho... but ..you get my point....

carry on..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 06:26:57 PM
Maybe the pavers had some deeper meaning to KC. Maybe they were like grave markers and the number of pavers represented the number of victims she was planning on burying.....ooh what a gruesome thought.

My mom was cremated and put into a bury able urn,where we buried her,we put concrete pavers over so the urn would not float up in rains/flooding... as for 3,I think they said 3 pavers right?? Caylee was almost 3.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 06:27:33 PM
Deenie, I totally understand why you see shamrocks in a negative light.  I too, have begun to associate the image with this case.  Seeing the photo of Caylee with the shamrock shirt really creeped me out. I thought that is was so strange that someone would stuff her shirt like they did.  They were trying to sexualize her, which is really frightening.   

 ::MonkeyWaa::

That picture totally grossed me out. The pouty mouth and the socks. It was a very good imitation of Casey, though. Little girls do like to dress up like their mothers, and maybe that's all it was. It still creeped me out, though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 06:28:10 PM
hey all monkeys, trying to get caught up, been gone all day to neurologists, doesn't think i have a pinched nerve, says he thinks it's bursitis (yay, i think) got a cortisone shot in my hip! (ouch) anyway, just wondering if anyone has e-mailed jody parker (think that's the last name) & asked about the shirts? i want to e-mail her & be very polite & ask about the shirts. what do ya'll think? (cause that really ticks me off) tia.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 06:28:22 PM
NAPLES — The story of a missing 6-year-old Immokalee boy continues to gain a national following.

Nancy Grace, who interviewed Lt. Tom Smith of the Collier County Sheriff’s Office on Monday night, is planning to interview a Naples Daily News editor tonight, as her show on CNN continues to following the disappearance of Adji Desir.

Jay Schlichter, an assistant content editor for the newspaper, is scheduled to be a guest on the show at 8 p.m. Tuesday.


Collier County Sheriff Kevin J. Rambosk will also appear on CNN Headline News at 5:45 p.m. to speak about the case and Smith, a lead investigator in the case, is expected to rejoin the Nancy Grace show tonight.

 ::MonkeyDance::


I have been out all day.  Anyone wish to give me the Cliff Notes on the PR house?
TIA
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 06:29:15 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Wow.  ::MonkeyShocked::

wftv reports
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
Defense written all over it as a setup is what I get off this per the legal analyst. What a shock..... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:31:43 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Thanks for that video Russ.  It looks like Kathi Belich is single handedly busting open the defenses case. 

GO KATHI!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:32:17 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:33:16 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 06:34:09 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.


Wow.  ::MonkeyShocked::

wftv reports
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
Defense written all over it as a setup is what I get off this per the legal analyst. What a shock..... ::MonkeyShocked::
Did the psychic lady tell DC to go to the house also? It seemed aways from where Caylee was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 06:34:32 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Hmm. Thanks Klaas. But I wonder why did DC not say so from the outset, instead of bringing up his sick daughter, Kio Torres tip etc. Something still doesn't sit right. And I do believe that he told Hoover they were going to find the body. Why would he have been so certain on just a psychic's tip? I'm sure there must have been several similar tips.

I wonder as well.  I'd like to hold off judgement on this until D Casey's phone records are public.  Not sure if I believe this story.

I agree also. Didn't most of the 'info' the Anthony's receive come from psychics? And, why was he at that house rummaging through other black trashbags? And isn't the procedure to call the detectives and let them know as Mike Brooks (former FBI) stated on NG (regarding Gail St. John) that there is a strong possibility of finding something? Rather than skewering the ground with a metal rod without a care in the world? I mean, how can he just be so nonchalant about it all? What if he had found something? He states, he would have stopped and prayed. The minute I heard that, I thought, whatever! You would have interrupted the crime scene and possibly destroyed key evidence. Personally, I think he was out there on a tip, but not from the psychic. And why film it? That part didn't make sense unless they were going to show it to counter the prosecution to prove the area wasn't under water and there wasn't a body there. It's all very suspect and oddly timed. Why didn't this psychic call the tipline? The LE?

And while you are proving that this is all legit, I'd like to see all of the other videos they shot of the 'other' places of interest. Because if what he is saying is true, he would have videos of more than one place. As far as the Anthony's are concerned I have a feeling of what is to come of them and you don't need to be a psychic for that.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:34:52 PM
Maybe the pavers had some deeper meaning to KC. Maybe they were like grave markers and the number of pavers represented the number of victims she was planning on burying.....ooh what a gruesome thought.

My mom was cremated and put into a bury able urn,where we buried her,we put concrete pavers over so the urn would not float up in rains/flooding... as for 3,I think they said 3 pavers right?? Caylee was almost 3.

I know people do bury urns, and that there are special areas of cemeteries for cremated remains..  I never once thought of burying my dad's, though. He's in my office with me.  (My sister and I each got a small urn, with some of his ashes, and the rest were scattered where he wanted them to be).  When I die, I plan to have his ashes buried with me.. or if I am cremated, his ashes will be mixed with mine. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 06:35:21 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder   and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


As far as Tim's "obsession" his daughter's murder, IT is the reason he looks for the missing. I don't know what I would do if I were in his place. I'm just thankful that if my family member was missing there is someone like Tim Miller that will use his resources and skills to find my loved one.

I don't think Tim Miller is a saint because every breath he takes is all about Caylee. I think he is a saint because he has devoted his life to finding missing people. People from all walks of life. The rich, the poor, the young and the elderly. He is a compassionate man who deserves respect.

I am sorry if this offends you Fuzzball or anyone else. This is just my opinion. Again sorry for the rant. JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:35:33 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Thanks for that video Russ.  It looks like Kathi Belich is single handedly busting open the defenses case. 

GO KATHI!

Isn't it frickin' awesome!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:36:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 06:36:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Is this what Red was talking about?
Quote
Wait til a little bit as there is another Zanny reference that will make you go hmm as well. That is in the works and will be presented soon.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4373.msg622111#msg622111


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
Wonder if the road will lead back to Baez? He was quick to say he wasn't the one on the phone with DC at the time. Hmm? That explains the motion he filed and I loved his face in court when the lady from the state told him DC had already given his interview on the day before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 06:39:22 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.
Blurry I'm behind, but Catholics used to be totally against cremation. Now they have let up in that believe to an extent. There is a parish near where I live that has a wall thing that people put their loved ones cremains in instead of burial at a cemetary. If someone already answered this, sorry. I am way behind.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:39:24 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:39:52 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!

Personally, YES i think he's a saint!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 06:41:12 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
Thanks, WOW ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 06:42:05 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::
No cliff notes here Dolce, but you can cheat off of my paper.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 13, 2009, 06:42:09 PM
<snipped>

 It upsets me that your son, Lee, sent a nasty letter to Texas
EquuSearch, followed by Jose Baez’s spokesperson, Todd Black, telling
people that they have been misappropriating money. They’re held by the
same accounting standards as your NPO would be put under, every penny
donated has to be held accounted for.

In the beginning, there was a group called SOS, lead by Gale St. John,
who took $5,000 of donor money to search for Caylee but took $2,000
out of the money people donated and used it to pay for her daughters
debts.
I contacted the FBI and OCSD, as she has an open case for
credit card fraud, but it’s these people who are frauds and taking
money in the name of your granddaughter. Her Purebred Adoption League,
Inc. was proven to not be a legal IRS charity and her case sits in the
hands of Cincinnati, Ohio FBI agents.

I see TES searching for a lot of missing people, I know there are some
issues but it’s for the sake of Caylee. If they find her, it would be
great, and I understand your position.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=2094
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 06:43:06 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 06:44:10 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PookyBear on January 13, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 06:44:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.

Most of the tidbits they call bombshells are about as interesting as the fact that I have to go to the bathroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:45:40 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 06:47:01 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 06:47:05 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)
Will this ever end? Now we have Lois in the mix again. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: akmom on January 13, 2009, 06:47:21 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.

A little behind in reading here, but holy cow!!!!!  I hope someone can get into that house right away.  Maybe Casey was leaving Caylee here whenever she wanted to get away from her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:47:26 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.

Most of the tidbits they call bombshells are about as interesting as the fact that I have to go to the bathroom.

why am i trying hard not to picture you on the toilet??? ::MonkeyConfused:: 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:47:54 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::
No cliff notes here Dolce, but you can cheat off of my paper.
THANKIES!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 06:48:40 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder   and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


As far as Tim's "obsession" his daughter's murder, IT is the reason he looks for the missing. I don't know what I would do if I were in his place. I'm just thankful that if my family member was missing there is someone like Tim Miller that will use his resources and skills to find my loved one.

I don't think Tim Miller is a saint because every breath he takes is all about Caylee. I think he is a saint because he has devoted his life to finding missing people. People from all walks of life. The rich, the poor, the young and the elderly. He is a compassionate man who deserves respect.

I am sorry if this offends you Fuzzball or anyone else. This is just my opinion. Again sorry for the rant. JSM

Well said, and I agree with your opinion. T/Y for putting it so well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:48:52 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.

I agree.     Kathi deserves a helleva promotion!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 06:48:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.

Most of the tidbits they call bombshells are about as interesting as the fact that I have to go to the bathroom.

 :smt046.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
Have a question after viewing the youtube about the timer55 Casey also gave Lee a different password which was cays234 I think. Has anyone decoded that one? The link is a few pages back to the video. She said her passwords had a meaning to them of significance. Any ideas?

Okay, I know this is reee-ally far-fetched, but it's just a thought. You know how maps have grids with letters and numbers? Has anybody checked maps (maybe from phone books, maybe travel maps) for that area to see if T55 comes anywhere close?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.

A little behind in reading here, but holy cow!!!!!  I hope someone can get into that house right away.  Maybe Casey was leaving Caylee here whenever she wanted to get away from her.

That whole thread is something else!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Stacey on January 13, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
Good evening monkeys
First let me say I don't post much but I read every post and I am in WOW of you monkeys
I am honored to be a member of SM

Does anyone know the date that Casey looked up ZFB on her computer
I was wondering do you all think that she dumped poor little Caylee and then looked up the name ZG and found her address and had be following her around  and that is how she found out she went to Sawgrass apt

monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:49:37 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::
No cliff notes here Dolce, but you can cheat off of my paper.
THANKIES!
Hey wait a minute...you have written "Mrs.Anthony Lazzaro" all over your paper!!!  Sheesh...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 13, 2009, 06:49:53 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!

OH!!  Silly me...... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 06:51:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/brackenwoodmap.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:51:59 PM
Have a question after viewing the youtube about the timer55 Casey also gave Lee a different password which was cays234 I think. Has anyone decoded that one? The link is a few pages back to the video. She said her passwords had a meaning to them of significance. Any ideas?

Okay, I know this is reee-ally far-fetched, but it's just a thought. You know how maps have grids with letters and numbers? Has anybody checked maps (maybe from phone books, maybe travel maps) for that area to see if T55 comes anywhere close?

Wow wouldn't that be interesting!  I wish I was one of the "smart map monkeys" right now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::   You guys are funny!     He's not an Admiral.   He's a Captain.    But, if you come to Maryland, we can find some single friends, I'm sure!!       ::MonkeyHaHa::    Lots of single guys in the DC area!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 13, 2009, 06:53:03 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 06:54:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/brackenwoodmap.jpg)
Thanks, I wonder how the PI knew to go there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
have LE been to this house to dust for prints and such? look inside ? allll that stuff?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
Legal Analyst: Kronk GMA Interview Is Defense Victory
Tuesday, January 13, 2009 – updated: 6:04 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Statements like that have WFTV's legal analyst believing RK's interview is a score for Casey's defense team.

"If you listen closely, I'm sure you can hear the clapping and the joy coming from Mr. Baez's office," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said after reviewing the interview.

The reason is conflicting statements from the man who claims he stumbled on the crime scene at one point and that he had a hunch during another.

ANALYSIS: Sheaffer Reviews Kronk Interview: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18472709/index.html

MYSTERY HOUSE: Home ID'd In P.I.'s Video: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18472915/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3165532&postcount=534

They found the house.  Puerto Rico connection.

A little behind in reading here, but holy cow!!!!!  I hope someone can get into that house right away.  Maybe Casey was leaving Caylee here whenever she wanted to get away from her.

That whole thread is something else!!!

Wow and Casey did say she was half Puerto Rican.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:54:50 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?
Oh I did this crap when I was in Kindergarten..."You did not let me play with your dolly so you are not my friend anymore...you can not come to my birthday party"

GROW UP CINDY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS....OR LACK THERE OF!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 06:55:30 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Thanks, I wish they would say who it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:56:34 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Thanks, I wish they would say who it is.

Me too. Might explain alot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 06:56:36 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)
I don't know why Lois would continue an email exchange with Cindy when Lois' granddaughter was hospitalized over this whole situation.  It would be interesting to know who emailed who first.  Hopefully this is not another family looking for their 15 minutes.

And the fact that Cindy believes Casey is innocent is unbelievable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
Legal Analyst: Kronk GMA Interview Is Defense Victory
Tuesday, January 13, 2009 – updated: 6:04 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Statements like that have WFTV's legal analyst believing RK's interview is a score for Casey's defense team.

"If you listen closely, I'm sure you can hear the clapping and the joy coming from Mr. Baez's office," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said after reviewing the interview.

The reason is conflicting statements from the man who claims he stumbled on the crime scene at one point and that he had a hunch during another.

ANALYSIS: Sheaffer Reviews Kronk Interview: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18472709/index.html

MYSTERY HOUSE: Home ID'd In P.I.'s Video: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18472915/detail.html

I think that the fact the Defense team has the murderer on their hands it hurts their case...just my opinion of course...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 06:56:46 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!
I asked first Leroy!  ::MonkeyWaa:: JSM always gets seconds.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:56:48 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:57:04 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)


Thanks Pooky.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 06:57:44 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder   and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


As far as Tim's "obsession" his daughter's murder, IT is the reason he looks for the missing. I don't know what I would do if I were in his place. I'm just thankful that if my family member was missing there is someone like Tim Miller that will use his resources and skills to find my loved one.

I don't think Tim Miller is a saint because every breath he takes is all about Caylee. I think he is a saint because he has devoted his life to finding missing people. People from all walks of life. The rich, the poor, the young and the elderly. He is a compassionate man who deserves respect.

I am sorry if this offends you Fuzzball or anyone else. This is just my opinion. Again sorry for the rant. JSM

Well said, and I agree with your opinion. T/Y for putting it so well.
Thanks JodyO, I didn't think I put it too well. Thanks again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 06:57:44 PM

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
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::MonkeyDance:: Welcome to the cage bigskygal!! ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. is anyone else having trouble previewing posts, and posting?? I'm going bananas here today!! ::MonkeyConfused::

YES!!!! Keep gettin thrown out of the cage, usually when i'm trying to post.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 06:58:41 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)
I don't know why Lois would continue an email exchange with Cindy when Lois' granddaughter was hospitalized over this whole situation.  It would be interesting to know who emailed who first.  Hopefully this is not another family looking for their 15 minutes.

And the fact that Cindy believes Casey is innocent is unbelievable.

Did you hear Lois going on and on and on and on.... when she was in Murt's van? OMG.. the lady will not quit!!!  It's impossible!! (And we all know what Cindy is like). There is no surprise here that both of these idiots are going back and forth like this. It's shameful, and if Lois had any sense (or cared about her granddaughter's well-being), she would have completely cut ties with this case long ago!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 06:59:02 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 06:59:09 PM
Good evening monkeys
First let me say I don't post much but I read every post and I am in WOW of you monkeys
I am honored to be a member of SM

Does anyone know the date that Casey looked up ZFB on her computer
I was wondering do you all think that she dumped poor little Caylee and then looked up the name ZG and found her address and had be following her around  and that is how she found out she went to Sawgrass apt

monkey hugs


Here is the doc on the computer search, camera, ect.. ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 06:59:23 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Wow.   It gets stranger every day, doesn't it !?!


The question is..How many bombshells can the human mind hold in one day?NG hasn't even been on yet.  ::MonkeyDance:: This is crazy.

Most of the tidbits they call bombshells are about as interesting as the fact that I have to go to the bathroom.


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 06:59:52 PM
Nut is a girl  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 06:59:57 PM

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh

Oh goodness, now I'm REALLY in trouble.  *sigh* know wonder why I'm single!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 13, 2009, 07:00:39 PM
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::MonkeyDance:: Welcome to the cage bigskygal!! ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. is anyone else having trouble previewing posts, and posting?? I'm going bananas here today!! ::MonkeyConfused::

YES!!!! Keep gettin thrown out of the cage, usually when i'm trying to post.  ::MonkeyEek::

I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS ALL DAY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:00:59 PM

Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh

Oh goodness, now I'm REALLY in trouble.  *sigh* know wonder why I'm single!
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:01:21 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::   You guys are funny!     He's not an Admiral.   He's a Captain.    But, if you come to Maryland, we can find some single friends, I'm sure!!       ::MonkeyHaHa::    Lots of single guys in the DC area!
Captain, Admiral same thing! He wears a uniform. (oh gosh I sound like KC)  ::MonkeyEek:: He is cute but you are adorable.

OH YEAH Joesamas Mama is going to DC in MARCH for her birthday. WOO HOO Take that Leroy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 07:01:22 PM

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh

Oh goodness, now I'm REALLY in trouble.  *sigh* know wonder why I'm single!
Well no I think having the name Leroy is why you are single...just kidding!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 13, 2009, 07:01:35 PM
MONKEYS:

This is really odd, but I think I know whose house the PIs were at. First some background: I posted the following text ON THIS SITE a month ago (see link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.msg580584#msg580584  )

(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)

Anyway, here's what I had posted:
-----------------
Can someone explain this? Someone else new that Caylee was dead on 6/27/08 and created a video called "Gifts for Caylee RIP" on 6/27/08 -- a bunch of dolls made from recycled materials and laid on the ground like a memorial. Please see the video at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB2FSego8U&feature=channel_page

The user's name is skyzze, and she also has a page on myspace --

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=130069004

I found this youtube and myspace because someone on "docstoc" says that Casey posted something on this "skyzze" person's site and later deleted it. See the following link on docstoc (you need to be a registered user to view). The picture ensemble of Caylee that Casey apparently posted and then deleted on skyzze's site is somewhat disturbing; it is one of Caylee crying out and looking very scared, and her name is shown, plus something illegible and the words "Bring Her Home."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1449877/Deleted-myspace-comments-left-by-Casey-Anthony

-----------

Anyway, if you look at the other videos that this skyzze person posted on YouTube, videos of her dogs and such, you can see that her house is very similar to this one.

I had sent my 12/13 findings to the Crimeline e-mail address, but I never received a reply. I wonder if I should try to send again?

Does someone have Yuri's direct address?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:02:40 PM
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::MonkeyDance:: Welcome to the cage bigskygal!! ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. is anyone else having trouble previewing posts, and posting?? I'm going bananas here today!! ::MonkeyConfused::

YES!!!! Keep gettin thrown out of the cage, usually when i'm trying to post.  ::MonkeyEek::

I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS ALL DAY

Actually I have been having problems all day as well.  I emailed Dugga about it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 07:03:03 PM

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh

Oh goodness, now I'm REALLY in trouble.  *sigh* know wonder why I'm single!
Well no I think having the name Leroy is why you are single...just kidding!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

And here I just thought I was a hopeless romantic!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:04:13 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?
Oh Rose I missed the part about the disinvitation. I didn't watch the video just read the text. Cindy is as crazy as crazy gets. I don't get her.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 13, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
-----snip-------
(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)
-----snip-------
They were saying that I was the one who added info to Whitepages??  LOL  OMG these people are messed up!!  I thought it was Topix?  I did not find the Whitepages info, I just called everyone and their mother to tell them the info. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
MONKEYS:

This is really odd, but I think I know whose house the PIs were at. First some background: I posted the following text ON THIS SITE a month ago (see link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.msg580584#msg580584  )

(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)

Anyway, here's what I had posted:
-----------------
Can someone explain this? Someone else new that Caylee was dead on 6/27/08 and created a video called "Gifts for Caylee RIP" on 6/27/08 -- a bunch of dolls made from recycled materials and laid on the ground like a memorial. Please see the video at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB2FSego8U&feature=channel_page

The user's name is skyzze, and she also has a page on myspace --

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=130069004

I found this youtube and myspace because someone on "docstoc" says that Casey posted something on this "skyzze" person's site and later deleted it. See the following link on docstoc (you need to be a registered user to view). The picture ensemble of Caylee that Casey apparently posted and then deleted on skyzze's site is somewhat disturbing; it is one of Caylee crying out and looking very scared, and her name is shown, plus something illegible and the words "Bring Her Home."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1449877/Deleted-myspace-comments-left-by-Casey-Anthony

-----------

Anyway, if you look at the other videos that this skyzze person posted on YouTube, videos of her dogs and such, you can see that her house is very similar to this one.

I had sent my 12/13 findings to the Crimeline e-mail address, but I never received a reply. I wonder if I should try to send again?

Does someone have Yuri's direct address?

You can edit the on screen comments on Youtube.  Personally I don't think there is anything to this except that she is very odd. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:06:24 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

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Thanks, I wonder how the PI knew to go there?
I have a guess! She smacks gum and lives on Hopesprings Drive? Just a guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 07:06:33 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Thanks, I wish they would say who it is.

Me too. Might explain alot.
Probably another one who had been with Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 13, 2009, 07:06:46 PM
I don't often have time to surf during the day (though could today) and can't watch/listen to vids 'cause of turtle speed dial-up we have here...and still have no clue how to respond to individ posters since I only see a "reply" button at the bottom of the page  ::MonkeyWaa::  or to myself boo hoo.

Re. a Caylee-type law(s):  wonderful intent and God love all who'd love to see such (including me), but realistically there are prob ample laws on the books to cover this kind of sad circumstance.  The prob is enforcement and how LE is already stretched and how much ready evidence LE and prosecution have to go on to take an alleged perp to trial.

Just an aside:  some years ago I was alone on our place during a really bad snowstorm, DH was away on business trip.  My very aged mare died and I had to call a neighbor to come help me deal with the situation in the midst of deep/blowing snow.  When he arrived he told me to fire up the tractor and pull her out and I just cried and cried at the thought.  He told me to buck up  that my mare's spirit/soul had taken flight and I'd be just hauling out "an old coat" out of the paddock.

It was a heartwrenching experience and thankfully I didn't have to go through it totally alone.  I've loved and lost many loved ones over the years, but rarely have I thought of my good neighbors words re. my late beloved horse until Caylee was finally found.  I'm not quite sure why ten years after that particular event I'm finally able to consider something like Miss Caylee's remains as "...just an old coat".

Now I'm royally PO.  I need a screamin' monkey icon.  I'm sick and tired of folks doing little ones in.  And I'm really PO that folks so easily forget the self-involved lowlives who've gone before...Susan Smith comes to mind (among others).

With all due respect to all, try not to get bogged down w/all the players.  Focus on the alleged perp.  The rest of the indictments can come later.  LE and prosecuters are prob just biding their time though we understandably want immediate gratification/justice. 

Caylee's remains are just that.  Her spirit is somewhere else now, God rest the sweet darlin'. 

I for one am gonna keep my eye on the prize--justice for her untimely death.  The others have to live with themselves until LE/prosecution decides to take 'em to task for their unlawful actions.  That's ok w/me.  Patience is a virtue last I heard (and hope its true  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Last but not least, God love and keep Tim Miller and all who throw in with him.


Well said, Foggy. ITA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 13, 2009, 07:07:25 PM
MONKEYS:

This is really odd, but I think I know whose house the PIs were at. First some background: I posted the following text ON THIS SITE a month ago (see link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.msg580584#msg580584  )

(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)

Anyway, here's what I had posted:
-----------------
Can someone explain this? Someone else new that Caylee was dead on 6/27/08 and created a video called "Gifts for Caylee RIP" on 6/27/08 -- a bunch of dolls made from recycled materials and laid on the ground like a memorial. Please see the video at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB2FSego8U&feature=channel_page

The user's name is skyzze, and she also has a page on myspace --

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=130069004

I found this youtube and myspace because someone on "docstoc" says that Casey posted something on this "skyzze" person's site and later deleted it. See the following link on docstoc (you need to be a registered user to view). The picture ensemble of Caylee that Casey apparently posted and then deleted on skyzze's site is somewhat disturbing; it is one of Caylee crying out and looking very scared, and her name is shown, plus something illegible and the words "Bring Her Home."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1449877/Deleted-myspace-comments-left-by-Casey-Anthony

-----------

Anyway, if you look at the other videos that this skyzze person posted on YouTube, videos of her dogs and such, you can see that her house is very similar to this one.

I had sent my 12/13 findings to the Crimeline e-mail address, but I never received a reply. I wonder if I should try to send again?

Does someone have Yuri's direct address?

Haven't posted in some time.  Hi Monks!  I remember that day well - that was a creepy video.  With dolls that looked like they had blood on their faces.  You think this abandoned house is the house that those videos were made at?  WHY??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 07:07:29 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 07:07:36 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Thanks, I wish they would say who it is.

Me too. Might explain alot.
Probably another one who had been with Casey.

Yep, one of her crotch cricket donors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::
No cliff notes here Dolce, but you can cheat off of my paper.
THANKIES!
Hey wait a minute...you have written "Mrs.Anthony Lazzaro" all over your paper!!!  Sheesh...


 :2rofl:   :smt005


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 07:09:11 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.

Sorry, please disregard. I posted to the wrong post. DUH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Leroy on January 13, 2009, 07:10:07 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.

Sorry, please disregard. I posted to the wrong post. DUH!

Nut wears a boot??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 07:11:44 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?


Why...Cindy of course.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 13, 2009, 07:11:45 PM
i can't get the videos on wftv to work....will someone tell me what has happened.....please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 07:11:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Klaas Is this abandoned house what Red was talking about?
Quote
Wait til a little bit as there is another Zanny reference that will make you go hmm as well. That is in the works and will be presented soon.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4373.msg622111#msg622111


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:12:22 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html

Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed On Murder Charge

POSTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 5:36 pm EST January 13, 2009
 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In an e-mail obtained by Local 6 News that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:12:41 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 13, 2009, 07:13:35 PM
Legal Analyst: Kronk GMA Interview Is Defense Victory
Tuesday, January 13, 2009 – updated: 6:04 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
Statements like that have WFTV's legal analyst believing RK's interview is a score for Casey's defense team.

"If you listen closely, I'm sure you can hear the clapping and the joy coming from Mr. Baez's office," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said after reviewing the interview.

The reason is conflicting statements from the man who claims he stumbled on the crime scene at one point and that he had a hunch during another.

ANALYSIS: Sheaffer Reviews Kronk Interview: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18472709/index.html

MYSTERY HOUSE: Home ID'd In P.I.'s Video: VIDEO
http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18472915/detail.html

I think that the fact the Defense team has the murderer on their hands it hurts their case...just my opinion of course...  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I agree with that Dolce. I think what the legal analyst said was interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2009, 07:13:47 PM
Good Day Monkeys   :smt006
This case is getting more turns/twists than a 5 gallon pot of macaroni   ::MonkeyEek::
I do wonder though...
If LE  conducted any searches in the area (where Caylee was located) in late July or early August?  If not ... Why NOT?

I'm out of date on things but was just wondering if ANYONE searched the area in late July?
TIA
SeeYa :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:14:02 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::
And I thought your Grissom was a camel when I first became a Monkey.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: monkeymike on January 13, 2009, 07:14:08 PM
KB got the information from WS today and from another member last night in an email. The member had to wait until KB broke the news. Just want to give credit where credit is due. (KB should too)

This site SM is the greatest IMO. Amazing work done this week here.

Sorry if this is a repeat. There are photos from the member who KB followed to the house today are on Photobucket.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 07:14:49 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.

Did Kathi mention the ongoing Tshirt sales?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 07:15:25 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::


I think so too.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 07:15:49 PM

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Psstt  Leroy... Nutt is a girl... shhhh

Oh goodness, now I'm REALLY in trouble.  *sigh* know wonder why I'm single!

You're funny.       ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:17:55 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.
Kathi Belich got on my list when she interviewed those creepy Milstead people. I truly wanted her to sock the wife in the face!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 07:18:02 PM
Hudsunn... Very interesting post, thank-you.

Very very good post.  I always enjoy reading your posts, Hudsunn.  Thanks for sharing that.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 07:18:05 PM
What is up with Cindy sending an email that KC never hurt Caylee and is innocent?

Talking about it on JVM.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:19:35 PM

Mr. Morgan went to the house were "Zenaida" lived and said the current owner has lived there 8 years, but said maybe before him. He said "Keep em coming". So that being said and the fact that I'm still sick as hell. Has there been any updates or new stuff regarding Zenaida stuff that I should send him? Can a monkey bring it forward for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe, just maybe, after she left Caylee there in the woods she did searching on the computer (like we did), could have even done it on someone elses computer, about who lived in the houses where she left the body. It's probably a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe she got the Zenaida name just like we did. She had 31 days to do all this stuff!! Think up her stories, ya never know!!!



exactly.

Boo Monkey so you are saying there is no Zenida living at that address? Then someone added it to whitepages.com. I wonder who did it.


It matches phonebook.com too.  A Zanaida may have listed that as her address at one time for some nefarious reason and Casey did the same thing we did to find the name of the people at 4709 and 4701.  She "left her between 9 and 1" is obvious now, as I always thought that was hinky.

Ditto...I always thought it was hinky, too.  Good catch!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: monkeymike on January 13, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
Here's the members photobucket link:

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?albumview=link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:19:49 PM
KB got the information from WS today and from another member last night in an email. The member had to wait until KB broke the news. Just want to give credit where credit is due. (KB should too)

This site SM is the greatest IMO. Amazing work done this week here.

Sorry if this is a repeat. There are photos from the member who KB followed to the house today are on Photobucket.

Yes the link to her photobucket was posted, thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 07:20:07 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?

People who plan on charging admission to the funeral!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CynInOregon on January 13, 2009, 07:21:20 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?

People who plan on charging admission to the funeral!
Oh... GOOD ONE !!!   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.
Kathi Belich got on my list when she interviewed those creepy Milstead people. I truly wanted her to sock the wife in the face! :smt038 :smt038 :thumleft:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 07:23:03 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.

Right, I agree, Fuzzball, people do not need to see the actual gravesite if that is what the family wishes.  I do however believe that a memorial of some sort needs to made because there is just too many people attached to this case and are honestly grieving for that baby.  A memorial for the public would definitely be something I would be interested in seeing someday.  A place that memorializes Caylee where people can bring flowers and pay their respects...IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.

No, hunny, SeaSearcher delibrately holds the cage door closed at that time and we all talk about you! Tomorrow it's Today's turn and A1 is bringing her pink cupcakes. You are an interesting person to discuss behind her back!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 13, 2009, 07:23:54 PM
Wasn't an empty house in the neighborhood searched early on?  Does anyone remember that?  I think they brought dogs in b/c there was a report of a shallow grave in the area but it was nothing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.

Boo....Morgan talked with guy at house about Zenaida and the guy said he had been there 8 years?  Do I have that right?  How could it be that Zenaida's name comes up at that address in the whitepages.com?

Wouldn't Morgan consider this very questionable?  And....who ever said that the guy at the house was telling the truth??  And, if he was telling the truth, I wonder if Morgan asked him if anyone else lived there, too?

Just saying....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:26:08 PM
Good Day Monkeys   :smt006
This case is getting more turns/twists than a 5 gallon pot of macaroni   ::MonkeyEek::
I do wonder though...
If LE  conducted any searches in the area (where Caylee was located) in late July or early August?  If not ... Why NOT?

I'm out of date on things but was just wondering if ANYONE searched the area in late July?
TIA
SeeYa :2waver:

Old Fart!!! I missed you!!! Did you hear I'm sick??? Yeah, near death's door at the moment!! And Nut is a girl!!  :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:27:29 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.
Kathi Belich got on my list when she interviewed those creepy Milstead people. I truly wanted her to sock the wife in the face! :smt038 :smt038 :thumleft:
Thank you old fart! Coming from you that is a GREAT compliment!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 07:27:30 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.

No, hunny, SeaSearcher delibrately holds the cage door closed at that time and we all talk about you! Tomorrow it's Today's turn and A1 is bringing her pink cupcakes. You are an interesting person to discuss behind her back!  ::MonkeyShocked::

You're discussing my empty life while I'm locked out of the cage? Wow! I feel important. LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
Makes sense. Thank you all for trying to clarify for me!!

WELCOME TO THE CAGE, BIGSKYGAL!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
MONKEYS:

This is really odd, but I think I know whose house the PIs were at. First some background: I posted the following text ON THIS SITE a month ago (see link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.msg580584#msg580584  )

(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)

Anyway, here's what I had posted:
-----------------
Can someone explain this? Someone else new that Caylee was dead on 6/27/08 and created a video called "Gifts for Caylee RIP" on 6/27/08 -- a bunch of dolls made from recycled materials and laid on the ground like a memorial. Please see the video at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB2FSego8U&feature=channel_page

The user's name is skyzze, and she also has a page on myspace --

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=130069004

I found this youtube and myspace because someone on "docstoc" says that Casey posted something on this "skyzze" person's site and later deleted it. See the following link on docstoc (you need to be a registered user to view). The picture ensemble of Caylee that Casey apparently posted and then deleted on skyzze's site is somewhat disturbing; it is one of Caylee crying out and looking very scared, and her name is shown, plus something illegible and the words "Bring Her Home."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1449877/Deleted-myspace-comments-left-by-Casey-Anthony

-----------

Anyway, if you look at the other videos that this skyzze person posted on YouTube, videos of her dogs and such, you can see that her house is very similar to this one.

I had sent my 12/13 findings to the Crimeline e-mail address, but I never received a reply. I wonder if I should try to send again?

Does someone have Yuri's direct address?

Haven't posted in some time.  Hi Monks!  I remember that day well - that was a creepy video.  With dolls that looked like they had blood on their faces.  You think this abandoned house is the house that those videos were made at?  WHY??

That video on youtube was posted with a similarly titled one from the same person, also on June 27th. I thought maybe it might be a mistake, but a couple videos that posted after that were dated July 10th, still before the sheet hit the fan. Could the videos have been renamed later, with the commentary about the case also added later?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 07:31:28 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.

You can still have cremated reamins at a cemetery.  My brother was cremated and his ashes are in an an interment monument with a beautiful plaque and his name and date of birth and date of death.

That would be wonderful for Caylee.  Just dont think that BIG CIN would ever do such a thing.  If we get a public memorial built for this little angel it will surprise me. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
Regarding Youtube.  The commentary about the case embedded in the Youtube video can and was added at a later date, after it was already uploaded to Youtube.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:32:37 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Hudsunn...love the post...great deduction!!  Item 3...maybe Cindy said something like:  I don't care about you, I care about Caylee!!  or  I only care about Caylee.  Even if Cindy meant it because KC was and adult and Caylee was a toddler who needed to be looked after...KC would only take it as being against KC. 

You know...KC really is warped!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:33:36 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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VIDEO: Caylee may be cremated
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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.

You can still have cremated reamins at a cemetery.  My brother was cremated and his ashes are in an an interment monument with a beautiful plaque and his name and date of birth and date of death.

That would be wonderful for Caylee.  Just dont think that BIG CIN would ever do such a thing.  If we get a public memorial built for this little angel it will surprise me. 
The only way we will get a memorial is if we each send Cindy $20 and when it is completed, we get a secret password to the vault, which by the way Geraldo will open for us. Sorry I am being cynical tonight. I hate them all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 07:35:14 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!
Nut is a G        I        R        L 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Hudsunn...love the post...great deduction!!  Item 3...maybe Cindy said something like:  I don't care about you, I care about Caylee!!  or  I only care about Caylee.  Even if Cindy meant it because KC was and adult and Caylee was a toddler who needed to be looked after...KC would only take it as being against KC.   
You know...KC really is warped!!


Or maybe Cindy said nothing at all, which is very hard to imagine. Maybe Caylee said she loved Cindy more the she loved Casey. Caylee didn't want to leave with Casey and it pissed Casey off to no end. Cindy didn't want Casey, Caylee didn't want Casey, so to get at them both, Casey killed Caylee. Just a thought JSM 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2009, 07:37:21 PM
Boo
Nope did not know you have been sick  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I hope you get to feeling better soon and that the machines you are hooked up to do not bother your laptop in posting  ::MonkeyWink::

joesamas mama
to be 100% honest I was hoping Kathi would have (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/nutkick.gif) Dennis (?) when He kinda got in her face in that interview.
JMO  of course

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:38:26 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 07:38:42 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::

Umm I think I'm still a girl..but this is getting confusing....   ::MonkeyEek::  Maybe we need to have a show of hands?? girls say right,boys say left???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Boo
Nope did not know you have been sick  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I hope you get to feeling better soon and that the machines you are hooked up to do not bother your laptop in posting  ::MonkeyWink::

joesamas mama
to be 100% honest I was hoping Kathi would have (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/nutkick.gif) Dennis (?) when He kinda got in her face in that interview.
JMO  of course

 
Yeah I kinda thought she could give him a good kick between the legs. He creeped me out with the spitticle at the side of his mouth. He looks like a pervy creep to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2009, 07:41:16 PM
OH... shoot   I forgot ...

Yes I knew Nut was female..   Not sure what age cut off between girl and lady is (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/slap.gif?t=1227385204)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Mtnmom on January 13, 2009, 07:41:26 PM
Wasn't an empty house in the neighborhood searched early on?  Does anyone remember that?  I think they brought dogs in b/c there was a report of a shallow grave in the area but it was nothing.

Yep I remember that. Everyone here was on pins and needles that night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:41:46 PM
You're discussing my empty life while I'm locked out of the cage? Wow! I feel important. LOL!

Oh yeah!! You have no idea how people find you interesting. There is a whole thread dedicated to you. Umm you just have to know the secret handshake to get in AFTER you find where the thread is on the site. It's all very complicated. But, just know, we love you!!!  :bounce: :cyclopsani: :smt055


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 07:43:42 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::

Umm I think I'm still a girl..but this is getting confusing....   ::MonkeyEek::  Maybe we need to have a show of hands?? girls say right,boys say left???


as for ME..i wear PINK BOOTIES...

jes sayin..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 13, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

That's what I'm wondering!    I'm so surprised at this email.   She must have known Lois would share it with everyone.   What happened to the immunity deals that the A's needed?   I wonder what they are really doing, now.    Is Baez telling them to continue with this story? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.

Boo....Morgan talked with guy at house about Zenaida and the guy said he had been there 8 years?  Do I have that right?  How could it be that Zenaida's name comes up at that address in the whitepages.com?

Wouldn't Morgan consider this very questionable?  And....who ever said that the guy at the house was telling the truth??  And, if he was telling the truth, I wonder if Morgan asked him if anyone else lived there, too?

Just saying....



I just repeats zem as I gets zem. That's what he said. I sent the other info over to him and so far no reply. You don't think someone would lie to the Great and Powerful OZ do you???  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Stacey on January 13, 2009, 07:45:57 PM
Good evening monkeys
First let me say I don't post much but I read every post and I am in WOW of you monkeys
I am honored to be a member of SM

Does anyone know the date that Casey looked up ZFB on her computer
I was wondering do you all think that she dumped poor little Caylee and then looked up the name ZG and found her address and had be following her around  and that is how she found out she went to Sawgrass apt

monkey hugs


Here is the doc on the computer search, camera, ect.. ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf

Thanks so much


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
Gee, you guys are putting me on the spot, now !  Pegster, you may be right about her still thinking of the Puerto Rico trip.

As to what she meant by, "It's not my fault" which she screamed at her mom.  I think she meant, "It's not my fault I'm in jail.  It's your fault.  You called the cops."  That is true of course, since Cindy got the ball rolling by dialling 911.  Cindy replies that it IS Casey's fault for lying, but I doubt Casey takes that to heart.

Now, to the computer searches for ways to use household weapons, strangulation or whatever Casey looked up, I think there is a good chance she was toying with the idea of doing away with her parents -- one or both of them -- and that is why she did those searches.  Maybe she intended to knock them out with chloroform and then kill them. 

It is a lot harder to kill a grown up than to kill a little girl.  And Casey had told Amy she would be getting the house and they could live together. That was in her mind, having the house and living there without her parents, especially her mother, breathing down her neck.  But I am no psychologist or detective, so don't give me too much credit.  I could be wrong.

 


I think you are right on the killing of her parents, as I have suspected that for awhile. I don't see her as having any attachment to Caylee. So, the sheet and the gravestone markers seem to be for other reasons, like, sheet was the closest thing she could grab or the markers were for the person she was giving her 'clues' to. I think she's always felt that Caylee was a burden. When mothers believe their children are going to a better place or that they are somehow saving them, it is usually coupled with a psychotic episode. They kill them because they love them but it is usually followed by guilt, not necessarily remorse, but guilt which will manifest in crying. The emotion is directly linked to the event. With Casey, I see no emotion. No link.  

I find it hard to believe that KC was in some kind of psychotic episode.  IMO KC was just born amoral and without normal human ability to be compassionate.  It's ALL about KC.  NOTHING else really matters except what the other person can do for KC (i.e., Tony, Lee, etc.). 

KC gives a new meaning to the words:  Born Loser!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 13, 2009, 07:46:24 PM
You're discussing my empty life while I'm locked out of the cage? Wow! I feel important. LOL!

Oh yeah!! You have no idea how people find you interesting. There is a whole thread dedicated to you. Umm you just have to know the secret handshake to get in AFTER you find where the thread is on the site. It's all very complicated. But, just know, we love you!!!  :bounce: :cyclopsani: :smt055

T/Y, I feel all warm and fuzzy. Sorry you are still under the weather and hope that you get rid of whatever it is ASAP. I think I'll pass on the secret handshake as I don't want to get whatever it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:48:32 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


I say....let's see her phone records!!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 07:48:48 PM
Here's the members photobucket link:

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?albumview=link
That is definitely the house, thanks. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 13, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::

Umm I think I'm still a girl..but this is getting confusing....   ::MonkeyEek::  Maybe we need to have a show of hands?? girls say right,boys say left???


as for ME..i wear PINK BOOTIES...

jes sayin..

Hahaha so does my kids aunt SHAWN.. he loves him some pink booties and has great taste in purses... Thats why I said Girls say right,boys say left..or how bout this.. inny or outty??  Just sayin...

(hope I dont get in trouble for this one) I am tryin to be  a good monkey.. I really am...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Nancy Grace should be a good one tonight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2009, 07:51:00 PM
O/T   Kinda

from  http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8243286&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

DeKalb Police Seek Help Locating Missing Teen

I cannot find much on this case..  It makes me wonder what the heck Law Enfocement and the family has been doing for the last 30 days.  I do hope and pray a lot more than what I can find on the internet!  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/monkeycensored2.gif)


I still think there needs to be some laws at a Federal Level for reporting missing persons and actions required. 
JMO...
Rant over   SeeYaByeeeeee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:51:36 PM
I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???

If LP had the remains, he'd have come up from the river and gotten that photo op.
I really doubt he was working with Hoover or DC, although he might have been watching them.

I think if he'd known where the remains were, he would not have kept it a secret. And that convo with TM bothers me more and more the more I go over it. He doesn't say, "we'll find Caylee together," he talks as if she's already been found, and as if the main disagreement is how to present the remains. TM says she's unfindable, but he talks as if coming up from the river with Caylee's skull in his hands was an actual possibility.  How could that be, unless someone already had the remains?

And if that someone were LP, then why didn't he do his little photo op? It really bugs me that both LP and TM talk as if TM refused to do a "money shot" for the cameras, when they didn't even have the body, so how could the shot even have been an option? Did someone already have the skull? Is that the deal? Was the skull in someone's possession already?

Looks to me like they're searching the wrong side of the street. But what if they weren't? What if the remains really weren't there, in November? Does that mean that someone had them, and then re-planted them? Would that harm the investigation a great deal?


interesting that the SCULL was what fell out...supposedly... just the SCULL fell out...
so actually... who ever FOUND it ... could have HELD the tiny scull up and gotten the BIG SHOT ....

sick..

so how would they KNOW that they COULD hold up the tiny scull... i mean.. how would they KNOW that the scull wouldnt be right with the rest of the skeleton... and WAS IT? i hear differering things... skull fell out of BLACK bag (which D.CASEY WAS poking around in black bags) .... meterreaderdude says it was WHITE bag that caught his eye? ... ive heard the skeleton was scattered bones...???

who knows... all i know is that this ALL stinks... and i dont trust ANYone...

sorry..

begin the banana toss now ...:(

You know....the skull fell out of the bag...ONLY if you totally believe what Kronk says....I'm not positive I believe Kronk 100%...I can't get beyond thinking there's more to Kronk that we know at this point.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

That's what I'm wondering!    I'm so surprised at this email.   She must have known Lois would share it with everyone.   What happened to the immunity deals that the A's needed?   I wonder what they are really doing, now.    Is Baez telling them to continue with this story? 
Supposedly they don't need immunity. I believe I read LE says they have done nothing wrong. I don't know where I read that, if it is even true. I think they should be in jail with their slore daughter. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Boo
Nope did not know you have been sick  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I hope you get to feeling better soon and that the machines you are hooked up to do not bother your laptop in posting  ::MonkeyWink::

joesamas mama
to be 100% honest I was hoping Kathi would have (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/nutkick.gif) Dennis (?) when He kinda got in her face in that interview.
JMO  of course

Thank you for your concern OF, it's been a struggle to say the least. But thanks to some monkeys sending me a secret recipe tea, I think I might survive. Tho I am still waiting on one monkeys Tess Perles! I want to stop coughing! The machines have not interferred so much with my posting as they have with my tv shows, but I digress......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 07:53:59 PM
Right hand  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:54:54 PM
found this at the link listed below:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/26/ng.01.html

re: casey interrogation tapes

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And according to your statement back on August 9 -- I`m sorry -- back on June 9, 2008, you took Casey (SIC) to a baby-sitter`s house.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.

the june 9th again....


This is a prime example of KC lying to LE.  The day Cindy found out where KC was and went and got KC is the day that Cindy called LE and reported her granddaughter missing and put KC on the phone with LE....KC clearly said that Caylee had been missing 31 days...on that day and counting backward on the calendar the 31 days takes you back to June 16.  KC KNOWS that June 9 is an incorrect date.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 07:55:42 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused::I'm confused to the reason why the PI's went to that abandoned house, did they receive info that Casey was hanging around there with Caylee, and she might have gotten rid of evidence there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 07:56:29 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought Leroy was a boy!  ::MonkeyEek::

Umm I think I'm still a girl..but this is getting confusing....   ::MonkeyEek::  Maybe we need to have a show of hands?? girls say right,boys say left???


as for ME..i wear PINK BOOTIES...

jes sayin..

Hahaha so does my kids aunt SHAWN.. he loves him some pink booties and has great taste in purses... Thats why I said Girls say right,boys say left..or how bout this.. inny or outty??  Just sayin...

(hope I dont get in trouble for this one) I am tryin to be  a good monkey.. I really am...


ahhhhhhhhh i seeeeeeeeeeeee...
well then... i am WOMAN.. hear me ROAR..

okay.. im a leo too...
and thats ALL the information i am givin out... :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 07:56:39 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.

Scary thought, eh?  ::MonkeyEek::

Here she hated her mother to the point of killing Caylee to keep her mother from getting her. States her thoughts of getting the house while her mother has mental issues, moves out to who knows where, etc. Neckbreaking, yeah, that was for Cindy!

These women: Cindy throttling necks; Casey breaking necks!!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 13, 2009, 07:57:50 PM
(http://th18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/angels_love_me_uk/th_MonkeyinPamTreeWelcome.gif)


::MonkeyDance:: Welcome to the cage bigskygal!! ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. is anyone else having trouble previewing posts, and posting?? I'm going bananas here today!! ::MonkeyConfused::

YES!!!! Keep gettin thrown out of the cage, usually when i'm trying to post.  ::MonkeyEek::

I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS ALL DAY

Actually I have been having problems all day as well.  I emailed Dugga about it. 

Me too!  So, I have been on and off, and reading as I can...thanks for all the posts of links I can't believe DC went to that house.... who sent him there and what was he looking for? This gets crazier by the day.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: akmom on January 13, 2009, 07:58:35 PM
MONKEYS:

This is really odd, but I think I know whose house the PIs were at. First some background: I posted the following text ON THIS SITE a month ago (see link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4242.msg580584#msg580584  )

(((and I just saw that someone on Websleuths stole my post last night and claims that it's their post!!! Idiotic! Just like they did to Dolce, claiming that she would add a name to whitepages....)

Anyway, here's what I had posted:
-----------------
Can someone explain this? Someone else new that Caylee was dead on 6/27/08 and created a video called "Gifts for Caylee RIP" on 6/27/08 -- a bunch of dolls made from recycled materials and laid on the ground like a memorial. Please see the video at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB2FSego8U&feature=channel_page

The user's name is skyzze, and she also has a page on myspace --

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=130069004

I found this youtube and myspace because someone on "docstoc" says that Casey posted something on this "skyzze" person's site and later deleted it. See the following link on docstoc (you need to be a registered user to view). The picture ensemble of Caylee that Casey apparently posted and then deleted on skyzze's site is somewhat disturbing; it is one of Caylee crying out and looking very scared, and her name is shown, plus something illegible and the words "Bring Her Home."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1449877/Deleted-myspace-comments-left-by-Casey-Anthony

-----------

Anyway, if you look at the other videos that this skyzze person posted on YouTube, videos of her dogs and such, you can see that her house is very similar to this one.

I had sent my 12/13 findings to the Crimeline e-mail address, but I never received a reply. I wonder if I should try to send again?

Does someone have Yuri's direct address?

I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 07:58:54 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

Not sure now that you mention it   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Yes. I get the boot nearly every day around 3 pm. Today it was from 4:30 on whether I tried to post or change pp. Guess it is just crowded.

Hi, is it possible that folks that are getting the boot have to reset something on their profile so the session doesn't "time out?[/b]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:01:04 PM
Since this abandoned house is rather close to the Anthonys, could her cell phone pings have been coming from this house, instead of the Anthonys? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:01:07 PM
Lucky, Casey is the closest thing to an emotionless cold fish that I have ever seen.  So you may be right that she felt not one ounce of remorse or guilt over Caylee. 

The posts about the various plants growing around and even through the remains were gruesome but also interesting.  It is not as if Lee or a PI could have gone to that site strolled into the woods and just picked up the bag and walked away.  It was very very full of all kinds of undergrowth, brush, sawgrass, whatever as well as mud, snakes, debris, etc.  It is very possible that vines, limbes, little new bushes, etc. had tangled the skeletal remains all up.  It probably took knives and others things to get the bag and its total contents out of there. 

Also, the skeleton was scattered, and it would have been impossible for Lee or anyone else to pick up everything from the bag and sheet and all the remains.  But they may have tried to do it.  If they really wanted to help Casey, they could have taken the bag and whatever remains they could get and thrown it somewhere else and then had someone find it and claim that Zanny threw it there.


Good posts!

I've only seen KC cry a few times - when she learned she wasn't getting out of jail - and when Baez talked about her being "somebody's little girl".    She cried in front of C&G in jail - but that was when they were addressing her like she was still a little girl, imo.   She only cries for herself. 

I also believe that she wanted C&G gone - so she could inherit the house.


Sassy,I think she wanted her parents gone too.

YES, I totally agree.  She planned to kill them.  She just got nailed before she got her "plan" into action. She HATES her parents, only useful to her when she needed something.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 
Shannon, that used to be the case, now Catholics are not so opposed to cremation due to overcrowded cemeteries and costs of burial. Things have changed in the last few years. There is a parish where I live that has a columbarium (sp) where ashes are placed in a wall, instead of being buried at a cemetary. I believe it is the only one around here, but not sure about the Catholic cemetaries though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:05:09 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

UH HUH, I agree  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
Since this abandoned house is rather close to the Anthonys, could her cell phone pings have been coming from this house, instead of the Anthonys? ::MonkeyEek::

I think so

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/brackenwoodmap.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 08:06:38 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html

Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed On Murder Charge

POSTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 5:36 pm EST January 13, 2009
 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In an e-mail obtained by Local 6 News that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

I would be torqued beyond measure if some looney tunes was communicating w/my minor daughter and sending her junk.  That whole family should be thrown in a room together and let the throttling and neck breaking commence.  Grrrr...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:07:52 PM
Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs



Maybe we oughta believe in psychics.

Interesting that the psychic says she was working through an "intermediary." Also interesting that she says the A family sent her a teddy bear, something of Caylee's so she could get vibes from it (psychometrics) but the A's wouldn't give anything of Caylee's to Tim Miller to help the dogs with Caylee's scent.

One question....IS THIS JOY????   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:08:47 PM
NG is going to have on the woman who was on the phone with Dom Casey, Ginnette Matcia Lucas. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:11:22 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"



now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....




odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
You know, it seems someone would have searched that abandoned house long ago.  I remember a discussion online, maybe on this forum, where everyone was listing places to search for Caylee and we thought of fields, rivers, canals, any abandoned homes in the area, wooded areas, etc.  I wonder if the cops have gone there and taken cadaver dogs and looked for evidence.  Maybe the body was left there for a while.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 08:12:49 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:13:05 PM
The Anthonys are considering cremation, because they are afraid of grave robbers. ::MonkeyRoll:: Please there are many famous people and murder victims, such as Jon Bennet, and their has been no grave robbers. They want evidence destroyed, these people make me ill.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Hudsunn on January 13, 2009, 08:13:47 PM
Lucas?  Isn't Lucas the last name of Lee's lawyer?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:13:59 PM
You know, it seems someone would have searched that abandoned house long ago.  I remember a discussion online, maybe on this forum, where everyone was listing places to search for Caylee and we thought of fields, rivers, canals, any abandoned homes in the area, wooded areas, etc.  I wonder if the cops have gone there and taken cadaver dogs and looked for evidence.  Maybe the body was left there for a while.
Yes, and maybe Casey killed Caylee there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:14:26 PM
Lucas?  Isn't Lucas the last name of Lee's lawyer?


Yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 08:15:12 PM
Nancy Grace should be a good one tonight!

Yupper, I'm watching it now ("right" coaster I am).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:16:49 PM
Lucas?  Isn't Lucas the last name of Lee's lawyer?


Luka is Lee's attorney.  All these names its so confusing. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:17:40 PM
Lucas?  Isn't Lucas the last name of Lee's lawyer?


Luka is Lee's attorney.  All these names its so confusing. 
Your right, sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 08:17:50 PM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

Darla, I LOVE this post!   ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Monkeys -- getting caught up, over on page 20-something, just couldn't move on without bringing this one forward.

Back to reading, see you in a bit....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:19:33 PM
Lucas?  Isn't Lucas the last name of Lee's lawyer?


Yes.


okay... anthonys PI= d. CASEY

NOW you say that the PSYCHIC who tipped of d.CASEY is LUCAS
which is ALSO LEE's LAWYERS name...


gah..

i need a CHEAT SHEET...im tellin ya...

someone chart all these characters with stick figures as a FAMILY tree...
i need VISUAL!

BAH...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 08:19:34 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:22:01 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.
Surprise, Surprise. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::


plan works for me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:23:19 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
uh HUH... okay... sure..
THE PHONE CALL she SAYS she made to PI casey.... DOESNT show UP on verizon records..

got lost with CAYLEES call to CASEY no doubt.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 13, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
I'm sorry I started watching NG late.  Did the psychic explain why she was calling the Anthony's PI instead of the police w/ her info?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 08:25:08 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:25:15 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
She says Verizon can't get the records. Another bunch of bs. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:25:40 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
And Nancy is giving her a hard time.  You go Nancy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I bet they are. Of course I guess she is just going by a vibe because you would have to actually call for them to do such a thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:25:51 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::


plan works for me...

I like it.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.

Boo....Morgan talked with guy at house about Zenaida and the guy said he had been there 8 years?  Do I have that right?  How could it be that Zenaida's name comes up at that address in the whitepages.com?

Wouldn't Morgan consider this very questionable?  And....who ever said that the guy at the house was telling the truth??  And, if he was telling the truth, I wonder if Morgan asked him if anyone else lived there, too?

Just saying....



I just repeats zem as I gets zem. That's what he said. I sent the other info over to him and so far no reply. You don't think someone would lie to the Great and Powerful OZ do you???  ::MonkeyEek::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: All I'm really saying is that I can't seem to get my head wrapped around the Kronk version of things!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I bet they are. Of course I guess she is just going by a vibe because you would have to actually call for them to do such a thing.
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::


Now that's what I'm talkin' about!  I said I'd be torqued beyond measure if some adult was communicating w/my minor child.  I can't believe that LE didn't go after CA for that.  Whatev.  I believe the stuff'll hit the fan for all the miserable miscreants when the murder trial wraps up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:27:44 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
She says Verizon can't get the records. Another bunch of bs. ::MonkeyRoll::


yeah.. well officer friendlys can sure fix that little problem for her... i am sure ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 13, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
uh HUH... okay... sure..
THE PHONE CALL she SAYS she made to PI casey.... DOESNT show UP on verizon records..

got lost with CAYLEES call to CASEY no doubt.... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Give me a break.  She can look at and print all her phone records online at verizon.com.  She is full of something that smells bad that should be in a toilet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 08:28:57 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 08:30:53 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:31:24 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder   and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


As far as Tim's "obsession" his daughter's murder, IT is the reason he looks for the missing. I don't know what I would do if I were in his place. I'm just thankful that if my family member was missing there is someone like Tim Miller that will use his resources and skills to find my loved one.

I don't think Tim Miller is a saint because every breath he takes is all about Caylee. I think he is a saint because he has devoted his life to finding missing people. People from all walks of life. The rich, the poor, the young and the elderly. He is a compassionate man who deserves respect.

I am sorry if this offends you Fuzzball or anyone else. This is just my opinion. Again sorry for the rant. JSM

ITA, we need more "Tim Miller's"   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.
Oh for Pete's sake, how old is this woman. Cindy probably told her to use the call didn't show up on the records excuse. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Oh I didn't know that. Thanks I am gonna check out the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.

WHO's her DAD... and just WHICH ONE OF THESE FREAKS OF NATURE is HE alligned with..

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 08:33:10 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!



If she's a psychic, maybe she can divine where the bill is  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Red on January 13, 2009, 08:33:46 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 08:34:17 PM
I just jumped from pg. 36 to pg. 53 and now this page.

If I'm understanding your posts correctly, the whatever her name is, St. John, is on the same meds as cin cin.  Is that true?     ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
Sh*t I got locked out trying to post to Island monkey.

Island if you read this, I replied to your post thanking you for donating your proceeds to TM. I will not say what else I was gonna say because I have been trying to be good.

Ok, I don't like it when monkeys dog TM. He is a saint and no one has any reason to say less. Let them live in his shoes and do what he does. That's my rant I drank a beer and 1/2 and need to shut up now. JSM

Nobody's "dogging" TM.  I didn't say he was in it for the $$. He's in it for Laura and her memory.  He's a man whose obsession with his daughter's murder   and the way it was mishandled by LE has led him to do very praiseworthy and exceptional things. Can't that be enough?

Do we have to think he's a saint and that every breath he takes is about Caylee? Nobody could live up to that!


As far as Tim's "obsession" his daughter's murder, IT is the reason he looks for the missing. I don't know what I would do if I were in his place. I'm just thankful that if my family member was missing there is someone like Tim Miller that will use his resources and skills to find my loved one.

I don't think Tim Miller is a saint because every breath he takes is all about Caylee. I think he is a saint because he has devoted his life to finding missing people. People from all walks of life. The rich, the poor, the young and the elderly. He is a compassionate man who deserves respect.

I am sorry if this offends you Fuzzball or anyone else. This is just my opinion. Again sorry for the rant. JSM

ITA, we need more "Tim Miller's"   ::MonkeyDance::
Thank you Shannon. I wish there were more like him too.  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:35:31 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.

WHO's her DAD... and just WHICH ONE OF THESE FREAKS OF NATURE is HE alligned with..

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


SHE SAYS: i did the work on a VOLUNTEER BASIS.. because i was ASKED to do the WORK..
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SO... who ASKED her to DO this WORK... and WHAT work is she REFERRING to?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:35:48 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!



If she's a psychic, maybe she can divine where the bill is  ::MonkeyHaHa::


That 's funny as hell.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
IMO...If the media would just shut up about "The HUGE BOMBSHELLS" that really don't amount to a hill of beans, some of these twist and turns could be avoided. They only do it for the ratings and it just confuses everyone. Geraldo going on and on about the video being exclusive and we had already seen it on the internet. I think when we hear all that LE and the FBI have we will be banging our heads on the wall at how simple it has all been.

Darla, I LOVE this post!   ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Monkeys -- getting caught up, over on page 20-something, just couldn't move on without bringing this one forward.

Back to reading, see you in a bit....





Thank You Des....I had to step back awhile today. My nerves are raw from all the BS. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Sorry FoggyDew,I got in your quote box.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 08:37:13 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!



If she's a psychic, maybe she can divine where the bill is  ::MonkeyHaHa::


That 's funny as hell.  ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 08:37:52 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!



If she's a psychic, maybe she can divine where the bill is  ::MonkeyHaHa::



 ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 08:38:05 PM
I wish they would play that video that Kathi took.  I have dial up and so I can't watch it from the link here.  Also, I wish they would talk about the A's still selling the t-shirts/bracelets on that website.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:39:08 PM
It struck me strange that Dominic Casey has D & A CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING, INC and Ginette Lucas this in her description "The foundation of the company is a professional surveying and consulting company."

Is it possible that these two know each other through the construction connection? 

One more thing:
Matacia Global Services
Louis Matacia and Ginette Lucas
Certified Professional Dowsers and Psychic Consultants
Phone: 703.772.1552     email@paranormaladvisors.com

A full-service Consulting Team in the Paranormal - utiliazing psychic and dowsing skills.
Police Cases • Water Locations • Media Interviews • Film Advisors
Credentials and References Available.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:40:01 PM
It struck me strange that Dominic Casey has D & A CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING, INC and Ginette Lucas this in her description "The foundation of the company is a professional surveying and consulting company."

Is it possible that these two know each other through the construction connection? 

One more thing:
Matacia Global Services
Louis Matacia and Ginette Lucas
Certified Professional Dowsers and Psychic Consultants
Phone: 703.772.1552     email@paranormaladvisors.com

A full-service Consulting Team in the Paranormal - utiliazing psychic and dowsing skills.
Police Cases • Water Locations • Media Interviews • Film Advisors
Credentials and References Available.
::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:40:12 PM
Matacia Global Services
Louis Matacia and Ginette Lucas
Certified Professional Dowsers and Psychic Consultants
Phone: 703.772.1552     email@paranormaladvisors.com

A full-service Consulting Team in the Paranormal - utiliazing psychic and dowsing skills.
Police Cases • Water Locations • Media Interviews • Film Advisors
Credentials and References Available.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 08:40:27 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Puhleeze! I have Verizon and I can get all my call information online. I just had a look at my August statement and all the calls made and received.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: akmom on January 13, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:41:40 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Puhleeze! I have Verizon and I can get all my call information online. I just had a look at my August statement and all the calls made and received.
Is there a limit to how many months you can go back?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.

That woman deserves some reward money!!!  HELL, everyone else is taking it; might as well give it to the one that has worked hard on this case.... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:42:33 PM
i dont think that the meterreaderdude SOUNDED credible NOR do i believe that he just went there on a HUNCH...i THOUGHT it was to WHIZZZZZZ...

start the banana throwing.. i do NOT believe him...


*duck*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
She says Verizon can't get the records. Another bunch of bs. ::MonkeyRoll::


yeah.. well officer friendlys can sure fix that little problem for her... i am sure ;)

I'll sort of play devil's advocate on this one...  On my cell phone record from AT&T online, when I receive a call, it shows as a call from my own number!  Outgoing calls are noted as such and have the phone number I called, but ALL incoming calls look like I've been calling myself if you just go by what is on the online bill.  And to clarify, no, I don't call myself.  :)

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 08:43:04 PM
Sorry FoggyDew,I got in your quote box.  ::MonkeyRoll::

From Foggy:  oh no, something else I'm doing wrong in posting  ::MonkeyWaa::  How do I separate my replies from prior ones.  Yikes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 08:43:36 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.

According to Kathy Belich, the bags that we saw Dominic Casey "knifing" back on November 15th are no longer at the abandoned house, not as of today when Kathy was there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
So you're talking about a new psychic.  How did she come into the picture?  All I've heard about is that St. John person.  

Are you all going to make me go back to page thirty-something "right now" and find out what this is all about?    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 13, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
She says Verizon can't get the records. Another bunch of bs. ::MonkeyRoll::


yeah.. well officer friendlys can sure fix that little problem for her... i am sure ;)

I'll sort of play devil's advocate on this one...  On my cell phone record from AT&T online, when I receive a call, it shows as a call from my own number!  Outgoing calls are noted as such and have the phone number I called, but ALL incoming calls look like I've been calling myself if you just go by what is on the online bill.  And to clarify, no, I don't call myself.  :)

 ::MonkeyEek::

I have verizon and i can see every call to and from my phone and every text message number to and from....if that helps.  I can also go back like a year i think


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:46:29 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)

Thanks for sharing that.  That woman will NEVER GET IT....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:46:34 PM
Sorry FoggyDew,I got in your quote box.  ::MonkeyRoll::

From Foggy:  oh no, something else I'm doing wrong in posting  ::MonkeyWaa::  How do I separate my replies from prior ones.  Yikes!

No,it was my mistake.I did it to you.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.

According to Kathy Belich, the bags that we saw Dominic Casey "knifing" back on November 15th are no longer at the abandoned house, not as of today when Kathy was there.


i caught that TOO klaas...

things that make ya go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 13, 2009, 08:49:06 PM
So you're talking about a new psychic.  How did she come into the picture?  All I've heard about is that St. John person.  

Are you all going to make me go back to page thirty-something "right now" and find out what this is all about?    ::MonkeyWaa::



Here ya go.
Psychic Confirms She Spoke With Dominic Casey
PI Was In Area Where Caylee's Remains Found
POSTED: 4:50 pm EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 4:56 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A psychic confirmed to WESH 2 News that she was on the phone with the Anthony family’s private investigator in November as he searched land near where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found.

Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.

Video: Psychic Confirms She Spoke With Dominic Casey
http://www.wesh.com/video/18472551/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18472776/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)

Thanks.  That's me and my hubby.  ::MonkeyWink::    Isn't he cute?
  ::MonkeyDance:: Sassy's married to an Admiral!  ::cartwheel:: Does he have any single friends? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh pick me, pick me, pick me!!!

You're an admiral?

No, just interested in the Admirals friends!!

OK, I'm confused...LEROY, are you male or female????  ::MonkeyEek:: just askin'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:53:31 PM
I don't  have cliff notes for PR house, but wanted to let you know I was checking in over there occasionally...and sending prayers for Adji.
Thank you Cyn its greatly apreciated I know.  I have put some updates over there, but again a big pot of nothing today.  ::MonkeyWaa::
No cliff notes here Dolce, but you can cheat off of my paper.
THANKIES!
Hey wait a minute...you have written "Mrs.Anthony Lazzaro" all over your paper!!!  Sheesh...

 ::MonkeyShocked:: oh noooooooo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 08:53:42 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 08:53:42 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)

Thanks for sharing that.  That woman will NEVER GET IT....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::




Reading that brings me back to a question I've wondered for the past few days and never asked because I'm always behind.  If a family has a "private" service, I can see only certain people being allowed.  But, how in the heck can there be a "public" service with certain people not allowed?  Does cin cin know the definition of "public"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
If psychic, Ginnette Lucas, is lying about the cell phone calls, why would she do this?  She has to realize she could be in serious legal trouble.  Her 15 min. wouldn't be worth what lawyer fees are going to run her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 08:54:49 PM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????

She could have been leaving Caylee there, but I don't think it was any accident.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 08:56:14 PM
i dont think that the meterreaderdude SOUNDED credible NOR do i believe that he just went there on a HUNCH...i THOUGHT it was to WHIZZZZZZ...

start the banana throwing.. i do NOT believe him...


*duck*

Duck? I thought you were a dove?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 13, 2009, 08:57:33 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)

Thanks for sharing that.  That woman will NEVER GET IT....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::




Reading that brings me back to a question I've wondered for the past few days and never asked because I'm always behind.  If a family has a "private" service, I can see only certain people being allowed.  But, how in the heck can there be a "public" service with certain people not allowed?  Does cin cin know the definition of "public"?
I honestly believe there will be tickets.  It was mentioned by lawyer that they were looking for a large facility.  It needs to be paid for.  I hope Rev. Grund has a real public memorial and the A's can sit in their large facility with the son and the attorneys all alone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 08:59:19 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?
Oh I did this crap when I was in Kindergarten..."You did not let me play with your dolly so you are not my friend anymore...you can not come to my birthday party"

GROW UP CINDY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS....OR LACK THERE OF!

ITA, My daughter in 6th grade doesnt even act like that..... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:02:56 PM
will some monkey help me out....i was gone for a minute and evidently missed something....??????

Sassy's husband is a Captain   ::MonkeyDance::

Kidding - i will stop now because Nut is gonna have a hissy fit when he gets here!

I thought Nut was a girl?  ::MonkeyEek::

I thought Leroy was a guy???   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 09:04:53 PM
I have given up trying to catch up.

I just have to check in a few pages back and read up to now.

I've been watching Nancy Grace, and cannot believe this psychic is being taken seriously!  did you hear her say something about two bags--a white one, a green one and a black one?

I think she's trying to make things fit.  And what the heck?  She can't find the phone call in her records?  Does anyone really believe her?

It is not that I don't think psychic abilities are possible, it's just that I've never seen any self-proclaimed psychic do or say anything that caused me to believe in his or her abilities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
So you're talking about a new psychic.  How did she come into the picture?  All I've heard about is that St. John person.  

Are you all going to make me go back to page thirty-something "right now" and find out what this is all about?    ::MonkeyWaa::



Here ya go.
Psychic Confirms She Spoke With Dominic Casey
PI Was In Area Where Caylee's Remains Found
POSTED: 4:50 pm EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 4:56 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A psychic confirmed to WESH 2 News that she was on the phone with the Anthony family’s private investigator in November as he searched land near where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found.

Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.

Video: Psychic Confirms She Spoke With Dominic Casey
http://www.wesh.com/video/18472551/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18472776/detail.html



Now, this has just gone too far.  You know that these people are all drinking the same cool-aid or on the same drugs.  Maybe there are aliens who have infiltrated the planet Florida.  This is just crazy and wrong.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:11:13 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 09:12:29 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...





She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:13:34 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.

According to Kathy Belich, the bags that we saw Dominic Casey "knifing" back on November 15th are no longer at the abandoned house, not as of today when Kathy was there.


That is bothersome if they perhaps contained something like, oh say, 


CAYLEE'S CLOTHES!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 09:13:40 PM
I'm sorry I started watching NG late.  Did the psychic explain why she was calling the Anthony's PI instead of the police w/ her info?

OK, watched NG tonight and the psychic.  If this took place on Nov 15th, etc...etc...they why did Jim Hoover fill out papers the week before with TES about this??   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tevye on January 13, 2009, 09:14:48 PM



She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.

"Hmmm....I've gotten rid of my daughter today...when should I get rid of my parents? Oh, fiddle-dee-dee, nevermind! I'll think about that tomorrow!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 09:15:01 PM
I have given up trying to catch up.

I just have to check in a few pages back and read up to now.

I've been watching Nancy Grace, and cannot believe this psychic is being taken seriously!  did you hear her say something about two bags--a white one, a green one and a black one?

I think she's trying to make things fit.  And what the heck?  She can't find the phone call in her records?  Does anyone really believe her?

It is not that I don't think psychic abilities are possible, it's just that I've never seen any self-proclaimed psychic do or say anything that caused me to believe in his or her abilities.

I, as well, am 12 pages behind. I did see NG tonight, and thought she was quite rude to the psychic. Although I share NG's apparent opinion of her. LOL

I was not impressed with the psychic's call at all.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
Sources: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EST January 13, 2009

<snipped>
A source close to the investigation said disciplinary action is expected against that deputy, because of concerns about his truthfulness answering to their questions. A sheriff's spokesman, however, only would confirm that the internal investigation is ongoing.

Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk: VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Thanks, I wish they would say who it is.

Me too. Might explain alot.
Probably another one who had been with Casey.

Yep, one of her crotch cricket donors.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
Good evening everyone -- Not sure you have seen this and thought I would post.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html  (Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail)

Thanks for sharing that.  That woman will NEVER GET IT....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::




Reading that brings me back to a question I've wondered for the past few days and never asked because I'm always behind.  If a family has a "private" service, I can see only certain people being allowed.  But, how in the heck can there be a "public" service with certain people not allowed?  Does cin cin know the definition of "public"?
I honestly believe there will be tickets.  It was mentioned by lawyer that they were looking for a large facility.  It needs to be paid for.  I hope Rev. Grund has a real public memorial and the A's can sit in their large facility with the son and the attorneys all alone.




Amen to that, Today.  Wouldn't that just be too funny (the last part of what you said).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:16:27 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 09:16:58 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:17:03 PM
I'm sorry I started watching NG late.  Did the psychic explain why she was calling the Anthony's PI instead of the police w/ her info?

OK, watched NG tonight and the psychic.  If this took place on Nov 15th, etc...etc...they why did Jim Hoover fill out papers the week before with TES about this??   




well you cant blame it on our CONVINIENT clever psychic... cause "Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cecilita on January 13, 2009, 09:17:58 PM
The dead penalty is out of the table for Casey ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:18:08 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...





She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.
  ::MonkeyDance:: I said that ages ago. Even made Dolce go watch Gone with the Wind. She hated it, but I totally agree. She only wished she was Scarlett O'Hara.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:18:17 PM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????

She could have been leaving Caylee there, but I don't think it was any accident.
I've been thinking about this for awhile.  I think KC and Caylee may have stayed there off and on when they didn't have anywhere else to go.  I don't think Caylee's death was an accident either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:18:55 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...





She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.
  ::MonkeyDance:: I said that ages ago. Even made Dolce go watch Gone with the Wind. She hated it, but I totally agree. She only wished she was Scarlett O'Hara.
Casey only wished, not Dolce  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 09:19:16 PM
Cindy has no control over herself at all, she knew Lois would run to the media with this email. Who ::MonkeyEek:: sends emails to people saying you can't come to a funeral?
Oh I did this crap when I was in Kindergarten..."You did not let me play with your dolly so you are not my friend anymore...you can not come to my birthday party"

GROW UP CINDY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS....OR LACK THERE OF!

ITA, My daughter in 6th grade doesnt even act like that..... ::MonkeyConfused::




I thought she repreminded kids at a birthday party, which KC was attending, for pulling something like that..."they wouldn't play with her."

It's so obvious where KC got/inherited her traits from.  Like mother/like daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Monken on January 13, 2009, 09:19:16 PM
HEY ALL!! My hubby took over my computer to take a test for two freakin hours & just ruined my night!! I couldn't get on here to find out about that damn email!!! Now I've worn myself out fuming & I'm too tired to post; much!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Anyway, we can add one more lier to the defense side! I do NOT believe this dowser/psychic ? at all. Wouldn't you just know she can't get hold of her cell records  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Are they all crazy or what!!?? I'll take that back if she comes up with them of course!  ::MonkeyTongue:: But if she WAS talking to DC; why didn't he just say that in the first place; was he too embarassed to say it was a psychic? And if they're in business together..... ::MonkeyEek::

And Lois, why in God's name is she still emailing Cindy???  ::MonkeyEek::

Nite All!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:19:29 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:20:32 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 
Thanks Klaas, I miss her telling me I am off topic. You don't tell me that as much.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:20:33 PM
i dont think that the meterreaderdude SOUNDED credible NOR do i believe that he just went there on a HUNCH...i THOUGHT it was to WHIZZZZZZ...

start the banana throwing.. i do NOT believe him...


*duck*

Duck? I thought you were a dove?  ::MonkeyEek::

nope... i would be the pathetic looking little monk BEHIND the dove...;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.

Do these lists have the Titles Good and Evil?  Smart and Stupid, or People I would trust my dog with, People I wouldn't trust a houseplant with? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 09:22:31 PM
If the black garbage bags that Dom Casey was slicing open are not there anymore, there must have been something of interest in those bags, otherwise those bags should still be there. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
i dont think that the meterreaderdude SOUNDED credible NOR do i believe that he just went there on a HUNCH...i THOUGHT it was to WHIZZZZZZ...

start the banana throwing.. i do NOT believe him...


*duck*

Duck? I thought you were a dove?  ::MonkeyEek::

nope... i would be the pathetic looking little monk BEHIND the dove...;)
Oh, your not pathetic, neither is the cute monkey cuddling the dove.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PJ on January 13, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
(http://th153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/Lil_Princess_0325/Monkeys/th_smartmonkey.gif) HELP!! I need some help from you smart monkeys. I changed something under my profile, and now everytime I go to post it won't post right away, and I get some sort of warning message telling me: Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.  It's getting on my nerves because sometimes I have to hit post a couple of times, especially when it's busy here!! I know I changed something but now I can't find it, and can some REALLY smart monkey help me out. Hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm a desperate monkey. This has been driving me nuts all day today.

TIA smart monkeys!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I'll fix it for you then tell you what it was.  I FIXED IT

This is the default setting and I believe how most everyone keeps it

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/messages.jpg)

This is how you had yours before I changed it back.  Note, you don't even get PM's so checking this box won't help.

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I was experiencing the same situation so am now just checking my changes out.  Thank you so much Klaas for this information.

PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
If psychic, Ginnette Lucas, is lying about the cell phone calls, why would she do this?  She has to realize she could be in serious legal trouble.  Her 15 min. wouldn't be worth what lawyer fees are going to run her. 

But just think, she would have the reputation of a psychic that has proved herself nationwide to be accurate. She would leave Jeanne Dixon in the shade. IMO, that's why she agreed to this con.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:23:37 PM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????

She could have been leaving Caylee there, but I don't think it was any accident.
I've been thinking about this for awhile.  I think KC and Caylee may have stayed there off and on when they didn't have anywhere else to go.  I don't think Caylee's death was an accident either.
Maybe she hid behind the big white drive through fence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:25:04 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.


If she did direct him, well then like I said much earlier, perhaps we oughta start believing in psychics.  If her call records show that she had direct contact with any Anthony Family member prior to the 15th of November, trouble is a coming for her and more importantly D. Casey.

I think Kathi B might be on to something.  This video and that house whereby a Gonzalez departed to Puerto Rico and left furniture, etc. might have been the Defense's master plan to create reasonable doubt.  If presented at trial, it could have been mighty interesting to see the SA squirm.  Now that it is out there, well there is plenty of time to investigate properly.

If anything, it is another oddly peculiar coincidence that a Hern Gonzalez left for PR and abandoned stuff some time ago so close to the house. Now, if we can only determine what the exact date of departure is, assuming the Neighbor is correct.

Odd.  Strange.  I can't put it together quite yet.  Where are the bags D. Casey sliced up?  Why haven't they even found Caylee's clothes yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 13, 2009, 09:27:28 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...





She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.
  ::MonkeyDance:: I said that ages ago. Even made Dolce go watch Gone with the Wind. She hated it, but I totally agree. She only wished she was Scarlett O'Hara.




Sorry, J Mama, I didn't know that or I wouldn't have accidentally plagiarized what you wrote.     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:29:11 PM
well DUH.. some NICE LITTLE VOLUNTEER EVIDENCE picker upper took the bags away to clean up the NICE LITTLE wooded ,snake infested, bug occupied   creepy dark CRIME SCENE...

*heavy sarcasm*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 13, 2009, 09:30:07 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."

WOW, interesting insight

the 9 to 1 comment.  Now that could be 9AM to 1PM....I took it to be the addresses on Hopespring  .... 470(9) ...470(1)  .......

BooMonkey was questioning the  9 - 1 comment.  This is what I posted.  I do not know what others have thought about it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:30:25 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

Someday, somebody hopefully, will kick her a$$.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:31:12 PM
HLN is saying Dom Casey is refusing to turn over phone records.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 09:31:23 PM
I'm sorry I started watching NG late.  Did the psychic explain why she was calling the Anthony's PI instead of the police w/ her info?

OK, watched NG tonight and the psychic.  If this took place on Nov 15th, etc...etc...they why did Jim Hoover fill out papers the week before with TES about this??   





well you cant blame it on our CONVINIENT clever psychic... cause "Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.

Odd how DC has a new explanation for everytime something new comes up. First, he was on a tip for Kio Torres and talking to his daughter oh the cell phone. Then when news came out that the remains and where he was searching was NOT the real teen hangout, and also that he'd been heard to say something like "it should be right here" while on the phone, he comes up with the tale that he's talking to a psychic. What next?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 09:32:15 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Welcome New Monkeys!!!!!


My psychic powers tell me the FBI can find those records....hehe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Puhleeze! I have Verizon and I can get all my call information online. I just had a look at my August statement and all the calls made and received.

Hmmm -Maybe she put the wrong sym card in the wrong phone.. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

I am aware that she's not a child.  I watched the interview.

I'm an adult, and I'm on my daughter's family plan.  She worked for Sprint, and could get the best deal that way.

...and the psychic did say the bill was going to her dad's office.  Now, maybe she can't just haul herself down the hall to check it out.

I apologize if I'm offensive to anyone who believes in psychics.  God knows, I want to.  I really do.  I'd give my right arm to be able to communicate with loved ones who have died.  I have seen a renowned psychic totally blow off a friend of mine who really needed an answer, and seen the hope that had been raised and the pain of the blow-off.

I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 09:35:24 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 
Thanks Klaas, I miss her telling me I am off topic. You don't tell me that as much.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here ya go, maybe this will make you feel better . . .  :2whip:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:35:39 PM
You're discussing my empty life while I'm locked out of the cage? Wow! I feel important. LOL!

Oh yeah!! You have no idea how people find you interesting. There is a whole thread dedicated to you. Umm you just have to know the secret handshake to get in AFTER you find where the thread is on the site. It's all very complicated. But, just know, we love you!!!  :bounce: :cyclopsani: :smt055

Boo...I have gone through about 300 tips looking for a tip from ohio in regards to Rev. Grund to no avail, so far.  I dont know if it would be released to the public being that Lee would've gotten that tip himself and followed up on it, apparently.  I can continue to search...just let me know, please and I hope ya feel better....maybe you need some TEA!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:40:30 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 09:41:50 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..

True.  I don't remember the exact words, but the was something like "as far as I know," plus another CYA phrase.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:43:21 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

I am aware that she's not a child.  I watched the interview.

I'm an adult, and I'm on my daughter's family plan.  She worked for Sprint, and could get the best deal that way.

...and the psychic did say the bill was going to her dad's office.  Now, maybe she can't just haul herself down the hall to check it out.

I apologize if I'm offensive to anyone who believes in psychics.  God knows, I want to.  I really do.  I'd give my right arm to be able to communicate with loved ones who have died.  I have seen a renowned psychic totally blow off a friend of mine who really needed an answer, and seen the hope that had been raised and the pain of the blow-off.

I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.

I don't believe her either.  Also she said she was on the phone with Dominic at 6am and the filming was done at 9am. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:43:52 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Welcome New Monkeys!!!!!


My psychic powers tell me the FBI can find those records....hehe.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:44:35 PM
i wish i knew what casey thinks of all this circus..
i bet she never thought that HER daughter would bring the WORLDS attention to her disappearance..

i BET she never figured her mom would call the police when she did...

i BET she never figured she would have such a DREAM (or NIGHTMARE depending on how you view them and their bungling ) team...

i BET she figured that her brother would help her get out of it ...

i bet she thought that THIS case would be one of those missing children cases that goes unsolved and under the radar...and that she could quietly go about her business as the POOR MOMMY whos child went missing...and all the pity party that would come with it..

heck.. probably even thought her family would be on her side... although admittedly would feel angry at her for caylee being missing...





She reminds me of a new-age Scarlett O'Hara.  Well, sort of.
  ::MonkeyDance:: I said that ages ago. Even made Dolce go watch Gone with the Wind. She hated it, but I totally agree. She only wished she was Scarlett O'Hara.




Sorry, J Mama, I didn't know that or I wouldn't have accidentally plagiarized what you wrote.     ::MonkeyTongue::
No biggie here. I thought it was funny that someone else thought like me. Poor Amy I guess would be Miss Melanie?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:44:35 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing


helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo..innocent people in PR.... ya might wanna check with LE to see if they need to get in your house...or if you even KNOW that people allllllllllllllllllll over the country are peekin in your backyard..


wow... wouldnt it be wierd if they had NO clue about any of this.... and didnt KNOW that their home is being filmed...

bizzare...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:46:43 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing
Someone said early on that an abandoned house had been searched.  Do we know if this was the one that was searched?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:47:16 PM



That would be wonderful for Caylee.  Just dont think that BIG CIN would ever do such a thing.  If we get a public memorial built for this little angel it will surprise me. 

The only way we will get a memorial is if we each send Cindy $20 and when it is completed, we get a secret password to the vault, which by the way Geraldo will open for us. Sorry I am being cynical tonight. I hate them all.
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That sounds about right  ::MonkeyEek:: I hate them too  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing
Someone said early on that an abandoned house had been searched.  Do we know if this was the one that was searched?

No we don't know.  I'm hoping that if this was the one that was searched, LE will tell us it was. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 09:49:24 PM
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I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.
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I don't believe her either.  Also she said she was on the phone with Dominic at 6am and the filming was done at 9am. 
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I she claiming she was on the West Coast when she called?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 09:51:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.

I don't believe her either.  Also she said she was on the phone with Dominic at 6am and the filming was done at 9am. 
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I she claiming she was on the West Coast when she called?
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Aargh! I messed up that last post badly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 09:51:12 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnapper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ugh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.  what about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

That's what I'm wondering!    I'm so surprised at this email.   She must have known Lois would share it with everyone.   What happened to the immunity deals that the A's needed?   I wonder what they are really doing, now.    Is Baez telling them to continue with this story? 

I thought there was a restraining order against Cindy on this issue?  Cindy initiated the email, cant she get in trouble for that?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
I give up. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 09:52:19 PM
You're discussing my empty life while I'm locked out of the cage? Wow! I feel important. LOL!

Oh yeah!! You have no idea how people find you interesting. There is a whole thread dedicated to you. Umm you just have to know the secret handshake to get in AFTER you find where the thread is on the site. It's all very complicated. But, just know, we love you!!!  :bounce: :cyclopsani: :smt055

Boo...I have gone through about 300 tips looking for a tip from ohio in regards to Rev. Grund to no avail, so far.  I dont know if it would be released to the public being that Lee would've gotten that tip himself and followed up on it, apparently.  I can continue to search...just let me know, please and I hope ya feel better....maybe you need some TEA!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyEek::

Oh man Shan if you haven't found it by now, you can stop looking. That was a lot of work and I so appreciate it. Yeah, I think you are right, if Lee's name was on it, maybe LE wouldn't have included it in the dump!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 09:52:21 PM
.

I she claiming she was on the West Coast when she called?

That would be her only possible excuse but don't you think she would have said that?  I don't see anything on their website to make me believe she was on the west coast:

Matacia, Incorporated:
Matacia Global Services, A Division of Matacia, Inc.


P.O. Box 176
Bluemont, VA 20135
Phone: 703.772.1552
Fax: 703.404.0218

Ginette Matacia Lucas
eMail: ginny@paranormaladvisors.com

Louis Matacia
eMail: louis@paranormaladvisors.com



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..

True.  I don't remember the exact words, but the was something like "as far as I know," plus another CYA phrase.


yep... and i am STILL waiting to hear WHICH TAPE he DID see then... since kathy shot him down about his timeline of when he saw THE PI  tape...

probably still untangling his tongue from the last interview she did with him....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:52:51 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing
Someone said early on that an abandoned house had been searched.  Do we know if this was the one that was searched?

No we don't know.  I'm hoping that if this was the one that was searched, LE will tell us it was. 
I hope so too.  Yeah if Kathi B. was the one there filming I have faith that is a reporter with integrity and I'm sure she informed LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 13, 2009, 09:53:13 PM
HLN is saying Dom Casey is refusing to turn over phone records.


LE should have gotten their warrant PRONTO. I can't believe they don't already have the damn phone records. :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Someone here remembered, and I can't find the original post, but originally Casey said she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1 with Zanaida Gonzalez with LE.  The homes are 4701 and 4709.  Just another clue, a BIG ONE!  If she followed that up with a reverse lookup at phonebook.com or whitepages.com she would have found the name Zenaida and the name Gonzalez at those two addresses like people here did.

IIRC (ICBW) R. Grund stated that he first heard the name Zanny or Zenaida when he had asked Casey to find a new sitter for Caylee; she told him she had found a "nanny"; he asked the nanny's name, and she came up with "Zanny" or "Zaneida."

This was November of 2006(?).Or was it 2007???  Sorry, I'm so tired!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 09:55:59 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Someone here remembered, and I can't find the original post, but originally Casey said she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1 with Zanaida Gonzalez with LE.  The homes are 4701 and 4709.  Just another clue, a BIG ONE!  If she followed that up with a reverse lookup at phonebook.com or whitepages.com she would have found the name Zenaida and the name Gonzalez at those two addresses like people here did.

One more possible puzzle piece:  In Tony Lazzaro's interviews he stated that his school schedule on weekdays, when he would be gone from the apartment, was 9am to 1pm.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 09:56:07 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing
Someone said early on that an abandoned house had been searched.  Do we know if this was the one that was searched?

No we don't know.  I'm hoping that if this was the one that was searched, LE will tell us it was. 
I hope so too.  Yeah if since Kathi B. was the one there filming I have faith that she is a reporter with integrity and I'm sure she informed LE.
Editing my post for errors.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 09:56:15 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnaper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ughh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.   What about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

Someday, somebody hopefully, will kick her a$$.   ::MonkeyCool::
Oh how I hope it will happen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 09:57:17 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Someone here remembered, and I can't find the original post, but originally Casey said she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1 with Zanaida Gonzalez with LE.  The homes are 4701 and 4709.  Just another clue, a BIG ONE!  If she followed that up with a reverse lookup at phonebook.com or whitepages.com she would have found the name Zenaida and the name Gonzalez at those two addresses like people here did.

IIRC (ICBW) R. Grund stated that he first heard the name Zanny or Zenaida when he had asked Casey to find a new sitter for Caylee; she told him she had found a "nanny"; he asked the nanny's name, and she came up with "Zanny" or "Zaneida."

This was November of 2006(?).Or was it 2007???  Sorry, I'm so tired!





I understand that and I think it was Zanny.  Could be something to do with Xanax, a children's book about Nanny the Zanny, but I doubt it had anything to do with the Zenaida reference other than they both start with the letter Z.  Nobody else ever heard that name and neither did JG except Zanny one time possibly from what I recall.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 13, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Clock strikes 10 ... off to bed I go. Klaas........Nat's thread at pg. 47. New thread #793 is all ready.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 
Thanks Klaas, I miss her telling me I am off topic. You don't tell me that as much.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here ya go, maybe this will make you feel better . . .  :2whip:
Thanks Sparky. I feel much better now. Was having a pity party earlier because I don't have cable. How's your puppy? You look really pretty in your picture. Stay away from SS, he thinks he is an Admiral, but Sassy is really married to one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:00:54 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 
Shannon, that used to be the case, now Catholics are not so opposed to cremation due to overcrowded cemeteries and costs of burial. Things have changed in the last few years. There is a parish where I live that has a columbarium (sp) where ashes are placed in a wall, instead of being buried at a cemetary. I believe it is the only one around here, but not sure about the Catholic cemetaries though.

TY, I thought that was the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:01:11 PM
HLN is saying Dom Casey is refusing to turn over phone records.


LE should have gotten their warrant PRONTO. I can't believe they don't already have the damn phone records. :roll:


so..if D. CASEY is refusing to turn over  phone records...
it COULD be because he doesnt have THAT phone call on it...
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOR it COULD be because of OTHER PEOPLE HE HAS talked to..... ARE on it...
orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it COULD be a smoke screen to take the scrutiny off of WHICH phone he might have used....or tossed...

anyone got a close up screenshot of that phone he WAS using?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
HLN is saying Dom Casey is refusing to turn over phone records.


LE should have gotten their warrant PRONTO. I can't believe they don't already have the damn phone records. :roll:

Agreed. If they don't have them yet, they surely will very soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:01:30 PM
Night Nut! Sleep Well!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:01:30 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

I am aware that she's not a child.  I watched the interview.

I'm an adult, and I'm on my daughter's family plan.  She worked for Sprint, and could get the best deal that way.

...and the psychic did say the bill was going to her dad's office.  Now, maybe she can't just haul herself down the hall to check it out.

I apologize if I'm offensive to anyone who believes in psychics.  God knows, I want to.  I really do.  I'd give my right arm to be able to communicate with loved ones who have died.  I have seen a renowned psychic totally blow off a friend of mine who really needed an answer, and seen the hope that had been raised and the pain of the blow-off.

I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.

I don't believe her either.  Also she said she was on the phone with Dominic at 6am and the filming was done at 9am. 

Three hour time difference between Florida and La La Land?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 10:02:53 PM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:04:18 PM
I am stomping mad.... how can Cindy defend Casey still....and if there is any truth wouldn't this be the time to finally come clean with whatever crap they have cooked up?
If they have all this knowledge of someone else killing Caylee...why not tell now? Their "mystery killer, kidnapper..whatever.." can no longer harm Caylee. They have more than enough LE attention that I doubt anyone could harm them.
I can not even comprehend how they can keep lying and lying without realizing how freaking stupid they look....how could anyone with an ounce of sense not know that their lies are beyond transparent?
Are they still sitting around thinking up a way out of this?
Ugh... there i feel better now.

I'm really mad, too.  what about the whole immunity talk?   I don't understand.   Is she just saying that to Lois, or is she going to claim that KC is innocent to everyone?   

She is going to claim to everyone and to God himself, KC is innocent and never harmed Caylee.

That's what I'm wondering!    I'm so surprised at this email.   She must have known Lois would share it with everyone.   What happened to the immunity deals that the A's needed?   I wonder what they are really doing, now.    Is Baez telling them to continue with this story? 

I thought there was a restraining order against Cindy on this issue?  Cindy initiated the email, cant she get in trouble for that?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I thought the restraining order was disallowed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:04:25 PM
HLN is saying Dom Casey is refusing to turn over phone records.



Thanks...this is what I've been waiting to see if this would happen...something's not right with this whole situation.  When we get to the bottom of whatever is right, I think we'll find to be a new level of disgusting!





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html

Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed On Murder Charge

POSTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 5:36 pm EST January 13, 2009
 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In an e-mail obtained by Local 6 News that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

I would be torqued beyond measure if some looney tunes was communicating w/my minor daughter and sending her junk.  That whole family should be thrown in a room together and let the throttling and neck breaking commence.  Grrrr...

Lock them in a room together and let them kill each other......(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/stoltz5333/rofl.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:05:27 PM
I give up. ::MonkeyWaa::

Don't cry.  You will make my kitty sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 10:05:42 PM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.

Seriously?  Where did that info come from?    ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:05:56 PM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.

cool! and you know this beeeeeeeeeeeeeecaaaaaaaaaaaaaause.......???  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: darla on January 13, 2009, 10:06:14 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.

Russ, what where the names? To sleepy to go look them up TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:06:37 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

I am aware that she's not a child.  I watched the interview.

I'm an adult, and I'm on my daughter's family plan.  She worked for Sprint, and could get the best deal that way.

...and the psychic did say the bill was going to her dad's office.  Now, maybe she can't just haul herself down the hall to check it out.

I apologize if I'm offensive to anyone who believes in psychics.  God knows, I want to.  I really do.  I'd give my right arm to be able to communicate with loved ones who have died.  I have seen a renowned psychic totally blow off a friend of mine who really needed an answer, and seen the hope that had been raised and the pain of the blow-off.

I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.

The psychic made a plea to NG; something like...you all need to help me with this.  NG said - I think the police will give you help on this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 10:08:36 PM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.

Seriously?  Where did that info come from?    ::MonkeyConfused::

Just reading the group and the person that found the house and brought Kathi there with her/him.  She has posted video and stills it appears someone noticed the bag, but I don't see the flowerbed he was digging in unless there is a wrong angle.

Over here - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77931&page=31

They did a mighty fine job on this one with all the restrictions put upon them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:09:08 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.

I wasnt alive yet in the 60s and I know that catholics didnt agree with cremation at first.  You are kidding??   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:09:22 PM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.
You should email her this information. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 13, 2009, 10:10:19 PM
What is this between 9 and 1 stuff? Could someone tell me so I don't have to search for it. I will send it on to Tim Morgan.


Someone here remembered, and I can't find the original post, but originally Casey said she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1 with Zanaida Gonzalez with LE.  The homes are 4701 and 4709.  Just another clue, a BIG ONE!  If she followed that up with a reverse lookup at phonebook.com or whitepages.com she would have found the name Zenaida and the name Gonzalez at those two addresses like people here did.

IIRC (ICBW) R. Grund stated that he first heard the name Zanny or Zenaida when he had asked Casey to find a new sitter for Caylee; she told him she had found a "nanny"; he asked the nanny's name, and she came up with "Zanny" or "Zaneida."

This was November of 2006(?).Or was it 2007???  Sorry, I'm so tired!



Des,

I believe it was 2006 when he confronted Casey about the 'daycare' solution....she said Zanny I believe....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
i dunno.. if these people have a SCRIPT...i think i misplaced a few pages...

this is all so bizzare isnt it?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:12:48 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Her father's office is HER office too.  She is not a child, she is an adult. 

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

I am aware that she's not a child.  I watched the interview.

I'm an adult, and I'm on my daughter's family plan.  She worked for Sprint, and could get the best deal that way.

...and the psychic did say the bill was going to her dad's office.  Now, maybe she can't just haul herself down the hall to check it out.

I apologize if I'm offensive to anyone who believes in psychics.  God knows, I want to.  I really do.  I'd give my right arm to be able to communicate with loved ones who have died.  I have seen a renowned psychic totally blow off a friend of mine who really needed an answer, and seen the hope that had been raised and the pain of the blow-off.

I'm sorry, but, if the psychic cannot produce the phone call, I don't believe her.

The psychic made a plea to NG; something like...you all need to help me with this.  NG said - I think the police will give you help on this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Yeah, she said, (concerning the phone records) "All we need to do is ..."

And Nancy said, "We don't need to do anything!"

I think NG was a bit ruder to her than usual. LOL



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:13:26 PM
"12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl  after Casey Anthony returned to jail"

now THAT is just wrong... why would an ADULT go against the PARENTS wishes (or grandparent) and CORRESPOND when someone tried to seek a RESTRAINING ORDER ... even IF it was unsuccessful.....

odd... and somehow just goes to show how the anthonys seem to think the RULES of normal behavior do NOT apply...

How about the fact that THAT FACT never hit the airwaves? Hell if a court denied my restraining order against Cindy I would have been on the news that night shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I would make public every email she ever sent and continued to send my grand daughter. Then I would make public her email address so everyone could tell her what they thought of her and her murdering child. THEN I would throw the damn computer my grand daughter was using out the front door and beat it with a baseball bat!! There, restraining order fulfilled!  ::MonkeyCool::


plan works for me...

here too  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
Clock strikes 10 ... off to bed I go. Klaas........Nat's thread at pg. 47. New thread #793 is all ready.

Thanks NUT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:14:18 PM
well....it COULD be that even tho casey told GRUND the name zanny back in '06... perhaps she LATER realized that people were thinking that she was referring to XANEX.... so she figured she would flesh her little faery nanny out with some REAL facts....

naw... she wouldnt have time for that....

would she?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 
Shannon, that used to be the case, now Catholics are not so opposed to cremation due to overcrowded cemeteries and costs of burial. Things have changed in the last few years. There is a parish where I live that has a columbarium (sp) where ashes are placed in a wall, instead of being buried at a cemetary. I believe it is the only one around here, but not sure about the Catholic cemetaries though.

TY, I thought that was the case.
Oh your welcome Shannon. I didn't think anyone was reading my post about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:15:24 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.

A little subpoena should do the trick, eh?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 13, 2009, 10:17:04 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.

Russ, what where the names? To sleepy to go look them up TIA

I don't have a good way to find the home ownership.  Torrez is one name though I think.  Anyone know a good link to see property ownership?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 10:17:15 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 
Thanks Klaas, I miss her telling me I am off topic. You don't tell me that as much.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here ya go, maybe this will make you feel better . . .  :2whip:
Thanks Sparky. I feel much better now. Was having a pity party earlier because I don't have cable. How's your puppy? You look really pretty in your picture. Stay away from SS, he thinks he is an Admiral, but Sassy is really married to one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Puppy is very good (I have two, actually).  Josef is absolutely adorable in his new avi!  Don't feel bad about not having cable, I'm on dial up . . . it just makes it hard to catch up, doesn't it?  And not watching videos, arrrgh!  Anywhoooooo, this case is so strange . . . just when you think it couldn't get stranger, it does!

I thought Sea Searcher was Captain from Captain and Tenille.  Hee hee!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:17:38 PM
Good Evening Monkeys...

Had a he** of a time getting in here earlier..right after I posted the Globe..hope I didn't create the problem as some other monkeys commented on it as well  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lot's of good info tonight..just wanted to say a few things

I watched Kronks video..he seemed legit to me but after watching the analyst review Kronks interview...I'm back on the fence again...he made the point that Kronks contradictions may give the defence some ammo to claim that the site and everything at the site may be in question for contamination or even a set up..common sense says one thing but the courts don't rely too much on common sense...the good thing is that the prosecution was already going forward with the trial before Dec. 11th...I haven't heard anyone say that anything at the site, contradicted the original evidence.

Now about the hand raising thing for girl and boy monkeys...wouldn't it be easier to say all girls be silent (cmon' I know you can do it) and all boys say "here" ? between me and Old F..this would take all of 30 seconds and saved a great deal of space  ::MonkeyWink::
as it turned out..there were 6 girls, 0 boys and 54 undecided...

Also, I knew Leroy was a girl monkey...I just didn't want to be the one to break the news to Boo..she was so fond of her, and their spam dinners, that i knew it would break her heart...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:18:34 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:20:45 PM
Hmmm she can't get her phone records. Imagine that.


Geez I'm glad you heard that .My dogs are barking mad tonight.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She says Verizon is giving her a hard time.  ::MonkeyRoll::
She says Verizon can't get the records. Another bunch of bs. ::MonkeyRoll::

Hmmmm, I have Verizon and I jump right online and look 'em right up.  I'm gonna say she is FOS too.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:21:13 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 10:21:45 PM
Klaas where is Muffy? I haven't seen her in a while. Is she okay? TIA JSM

I'm not sure, she hasn't posted since the 10th.  I emailed her.  Hopefully she's just on vacation or something and forgot to tell us. 
Thanks Klaas, I miss her telling me I am off topic. You don't tell me that as much.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here ya go, maybe this will make you feel better . . .  :2whip:
Thanks Sparky. I feel much better now. Was having a pity party earlier because I don't have cable. How's your puppy? You look really pretty in your picture. Stay away from SS, he thinks he is an Admiral, but Sassy is really married to one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Puppy is very good (I have two, actually).  Josef is absolutely adorable in his new avi!  Don't feel bad about not having cable, I'm on dial up . . . it just makes it hard to catch up, doesn't it?  And not watching videos, arrrgh!  Anywhoooooo, this case is so strange . . . just when you think it couldn't get stranger, it does!

I thought Sea Searcher was Captain from Captain and Tenille.  Hee hee!

Karen
Aww two puppies, I wish I could have another, but the evil one will not allow it. I thought Sea was Captain that is with that Tenille lady too. It does get strange, I am so confused and it drives me mad about Cindy and Lois. They need to get together, have some of Boo's tea and smoke the peace pipe. Just Kidding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:21:53 PM
I use Verizon, and you can get call details online by simply setting up "View Statement Online". It only takes the account number that is at the top of every bill you receive in the mail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 10:21:58 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....



 ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:23:09 PM
Padilla made a correction on NG tonight.  He said that he made an error last night when he said D. Casey was searching 12 feet from where Caylee's remains were found.  D. Casey was actually 150 feet away from the remains.  This falls more in line with what we were lead to believe several days ago.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:23:41 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Oh, you are bad!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 13, 2009, 10:25:46 PM
Goodnight Monkeys. I am about ready to go to bed. Klaas if you hear from Muffy, tell her Joesamas Mama asked about her. I am not a worry wart, just she is always here.

Boo if you read this, good luck tomorrow at your new job.

Sleep tight all monkeys. Prayers for all the missing. And for all the monkeys.

Sea Searcher behave tonight, now that you have returned from you wandering the GLOBE.  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:26:03 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Oh, you are bad!


heh.. ive been told THAT a  BAZILLION TIMES TIME or TWO..;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:26:08 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!



If she's a psychic, maybe she can divine where the bill is  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
This psychic is FOS...sorry, but conveniently the call doesn't show up on the bill?  Give me a break!

Our Verizon bill does NOT show our calls.  I think we would have to go online to retrieve detail records.

I THINK she was saying that her phone bill goes to her father's office.  Maybe a family plan, or something?  She said her dad couldn't find the call.  Maybe her dad has to go online.

You'd think, if she's psychic, she should be able to figure this out.

Ok, I see some funny things on this site and usually just keep lurking, but that was darned funny!  (and I even believe in psychic ability)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 10:27:23 PM
Goodnight Monkeys. I am about ready to go to bed. Klaas if you hear from Muffy, tell her Joesamas Mama asked about her. I am not a worry wart, just she is always here.

Boo if you read this, good luck tomorrow at your new job.

Sleep tight all monkeys. Prayers for all the missing. And for all the monkeys.

Sea Searcher behave tonight, now that you have returned from you wandering the GLOBE.  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good night, a kiss and a scratch for Josef!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
Goodnight Monkeys. I am about ready to go to bed. Klaas if you hear from Muffy, tell her Joesamas Mama asked about her. I am not a worry wart, just she is always here.

Boo if you read this, good luck tomorrow at your new job.

Sleep tight all monkeys. Prayers for all the missing. And for all the monkeys.

Sea Searcher behave tonight, now that you have returned from you wandering the GLOBE.  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


nite kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
Padilla also said on NG tonight that the pavers the meter reader and the PI were keying in on were 150 feet away from Caylee's remains and that the police shouldn't be blamed here because the pavers being keyed in on were from ONE SOURCE and 150 feet away and NOT the pavers near Caylee. 

WOW!

Sure sounds like LP is saying that the meter reader was informed by a source!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:29:11 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:31:25 PM
It struck me strange that Dominic Casey has D & A CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING, INC and Ginette Lucas this in her description "The foundation of the company is a professional surveying and consulting company."

Is it possible that these two know each other through the construction connection? 

One more thing:
Matacia Global Services
Louis Matacia and Ginette Lucas
Certified Professional Dowsers and Psychic Consultants
Phone: 703.772.1552     email@paranormaladvisors.com

A full-service Consulting Team in the Paranormal - utiliazing psychic and dowsing skills.
Police Cases • Water Locations • Media Interviews • Film Advisors
Credentials and References Available.

Well, Today, you nailed that one....  ::MonkeyEek::  WHAT A BUNCH OF AZZEZ   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:31:33 PM
Goodnight Monkeys. I am about ready to go to bed. Klaas if you hear from Muffy, tell her Joesamas Mama asked about her. I am not a worry wart, just she is always here.

Boo if you read this, good luck tomorrow at your new job.

Sleep tight all monkeys. Prayers for all the missing. And for all the monkeys.

Sea Searcher behave tonight, now that you have returned from you wandering the GLOBE.  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh ya...hit and run JSM...you've been hangin' out with Trimm, haven't you...  ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Night...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:31:51 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!

WooooHoooo!  CBB has developed psychic abilities!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:32:14 PM
Goodnight Monkeys. I am about ready to go to bed. Klaas if you hear from Muffy, tell her Joesamas Mama asked about her. I am not a worry wart, just she is always here.

Boo if you read this, good luck tomorrow at your new job.

Sleep tight all monkeys. Prayers for all the missing. And for all the monkeys.

Sea Searcher behave tonight, now that you have returned from you wandering the GLOBE.  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good night, JSM! Kiss Josef for me. You two sleep well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 10:33:12 PM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 10:33:44 PM
Someone in an earlier post brought up KC's comment (something about remebering words spoken on the worst of days) and that it was referring to the fight she had with Cindy on 6/15. I agree, and further speculate that it's possible Cindy may have said something in the heat of the moment like "I brought you into this world, I can take you out, blah-blah-blah", and KC deliberately used those words as a license to kill. Remember also her words to the effect of "what's given, can be taken away" (I'm not sure I got the quote right)?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:34:19 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!

WooooHoooo!  CBB has developed psychic abilities!   ::MonkeyTongue::



 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cuteascanbe on January 13, 2009, 10:34:48 PM
For the record, I am a girl!! I believe the meter reader. I just do. He wanted to remain anonymous and now I can see why!! I don't believe the defense will get far with attacking the meter reader. Using him does not explain away the other evidence..ie.decomp in KC's car etc. They will attack LE for missing the remains on more than one occasion but again, there are several credible people who can vouch for the water in the area until recently. I am not worried. Just more smoke and mirrors. Fluff stuff to distract!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:34:54 PM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.

According to Kathy Belich, the bags that we saw Dominic Casey "knifing" back on November 15th are no longer at the abandoned house, not as of today when Kathy was there.
Could LE have taken them into evidence????   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!

WooooHoooo!  CBB has developed psychic abilities!   ::MonkeyTongue::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I'm NOT a believer in psychics, you humble hound you!  ::MonkeyWink::

Great minds think alike remember!!  ::MonkeyTongue::

But if I did have psychic abilities, I'd have known that I needed documentation of phone calls or Nancy Grace was going to make a fool of me!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:36:23 PM
Padilla made a correction on NG tonight.  He said that he made an error last night when he said D. Casey was searching 12 feet from where Caylee's remains were found.  D. Casey was actually 150 feet away from the remains.  This falls more in line with what we were lead to believe several days ago.

 

I didn't think Lenny was the first one to say 12 feet...NG said it before LP came on but maybe I missed something before that...I was surprised because he said 200 yards originally.

Is that all that was on NG ?
other than the psychic who can't find her phone bill.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 13, 2009, 10:37:51 PM
Good night all!  I'm going to watch tv and try to stay warm.  It's snowing yet again here.  We have gotten 7 inches in 3 days and now we are expecting another 2-4 inches.  Plus, tomorrow our high is going to be -16 with windchills -35.  Have a good evening all. 
If I get warmed up and can't sleep I may be back later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:38:48 PM
looks like greta spend most of her show on the MISSING PILOT (who is in custody now)
i cant hear her of course.... cause the HATED LAKERS are playing....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
Good night all!  I'm going to watch tv and try to stay warm.  It's snowing yet again here.  We have gotten 7 inches in 3 days and now we are expecting another 2-4 inches.  Plus, tomorrow our high is going to be -16 with windchills -35.  Have a good evening all. 
If I get warmed up and can't sleep I may be back later.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG! Crank that electric blanket up and stay WARM!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:39:36 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 10:40:23 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 10:40:30 PM
Sea Searcher:    :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 13, 2009, 10:40:34 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Good night all!  I'm going to watch tv and try to stay warm.  It's snowing yet again here.  We have gotten 7 inches in 3 days and now we are expecting another 2-4 inches.  Plus, tomorrow our high is going to be -16 with windchills -35.  Have a good evening all. 
If I get warmed up and can't sleep I may be back later.

nite maddie... we have a TON of snow still on the ground here in the idaho panhandle..
but mostly i have a nice sheet of ice on the ground that makes taking my SIX LBS OF VICIOUS thor for walks a scary adventure...

take care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:43:00 PM
For the record, I am a girl!! I believe the meter reader. I just do. He wanted to remain anonymous and now I can see why!! I don't believe the defense will get far with attacking the meter reader. Using him does not explain away the other evidence..ie.decomp in KC's car etc. They will attack LE for missing the remains on more than one occasion but again, there are several credible people who can vouch for the water in the area until recently. I am not worried. Just more smoke and mirrors. Fluff stuff to distract!

Hi Girl!  ::MonkeyWink::

I believe him too and agree that looking to him for a new defense line will not work out for them.

Greta said Caylee Case up next............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:43:03 PM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::
But how would Joy know what to tell DC? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 13, 2009, 10:43:08 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi
I say go for it! They are crazzzzy if they are trying to hawk left over Help Find Caylee shirts.  It's just wrong!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 10:43:58 PM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::

If Joy is psychic, all of my gut reactions for the last 45 years must come into question.    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:44:24 PM
For the record, I am a girl!! I believe the meter reader. I just do. He wanted to remain anonymous and now I can see why!! I don't believe the defense will get far with attacking the meter reader. Using him does not explain away the other evidence..ie.decomp in KC's car etc. They will attack LE for missing the remains on more than one occasion but again, there are several credible people who can vouch for the water in the area until recently. I am not worried. Just more smoke and mirrors. Fluff stuff to distract!

Did you watch the video with the analyst ?...he made some points that got my attention about Kronk himself and how the Defense might play it... but IMO you are right..it won't explain away all of the evidence before Dec 11th which the prosecution was going forward with anyway..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:45:06 PM
Good night all!  I'm going to watch tv and try to stay warm.  It's snowing yet again here.  We have gotten 7 inches in 3 days and now we are expecting another 2-4 inches.  Plus, tomorrow our high is going to be -16 with windchills -35.  Have a good evening all. 
If I get warmed up and can't sleep I may be back later.

Brrrrrrrrrrr!

Good night and stay warm!
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 10:45:45 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:45:46 PM
HEY ALL!! My hubby took over my computer to take a test for two freakin hours & just ruined my night!! I couldn't get on here to find out about that damn email!!! Now I've worn myself out fuming & I'm too tired to post; much!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Anyway, we can add one more lier to the defense side! I do NOT believe this dowser/psychic ? at all. Wouldn't you just know she can't get hold of her cell records  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Are they all crazy or what!!?? I'll take that back if she comes up with them of course!  ::MonkeyTongue:: But if she WAS talking to DC; why didn't he just say that in the first place; was he too embarassed to say it was a psychic? And if they're in business together..... ::MonkeyEek::

And Lois, why in God's name is she still emailing Cindy???  ::MonkeyEek::

Nite All!  ::MonkeyRoll::

Wow Monken, sorry to hear you couldnt post much tonight...seems you got it just about all wrapped up though.  Didnt miss much!!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 10:47:12 PM
***snipped
 "I brought you into this world, I can take you out, blah-blah-blah",

Mom is that you?  Or were you just hanging around my house when I was a teenage girl??   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 10:47:35 PM
The psychic from earlier is out of Virginia. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: cecilita on January 13, 2009, 10:47:37 PM
what abandon houe are you guys talking about......can be the ¨apartment¨ casey said that left Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:48:10 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::

It's here if you want to see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEvhZkDxuF0&feature=channel_page

I thought it was odd when he said, "I figured this out myself."

He went in there to relieve himself. What did he "figure?"

He also mentioned that, "No good deed goes unpunished."

Otherwise, I thought it was not a very interesting interview, myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 10:48:22 PM
For the record, I am a girl!! I believe the meter reader. I just do. He wanted to remain anonymous and now I can see why!! I don't believe the defense will get far with attacking the meter reader. Using him does not explain away the other evidence..ie.decomp in KC's car etc. They will attack LE for missing the remains on more than one occasion but again, there are several credible people who can vouch for the water in the area until recently. I am not worried. Just more smoke and mirrors. Fluff stuff to distract!

Did you watch the video with the analyst ?...he made some points that got my attention about Kronk himself and how the Defense might play it... but IMO you are right..it won't explain away all of the evidence before Dec 11th which the prosecution was going forward with anyway..
Sea I really miss Bearly's pretty face and her sharp wit.  Bring her back!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:48:36 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!

WooooHoooo!  CBB has developed psychic abilities!   ::MonkeyTongue::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I'm NOT a believer in psychics, you humble hound you!  ::MonkeyWink::

Great minds think alike remember!!  ::MonkeyTongue::

But if I did have psychic abilities, I'd have known that I needed documentation of phone calls or Nancy Grace was going to make a fool of me!  ::MonkeyWink::

Well, one thing that does not require psychic ability:  I bet that LE IS going to get the phone records check out! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
That's it.  Kathi Belich is officially on my list.

OF PEOPLE I WANT TO HUG AND GIVE A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!

She's up toward the top with Yuri, Tim Miller, Sherriff Beary and the rest of LE.

Geraldo just keeps climbing higher up on my other list, and Dominic Casey is the most recent addition.

Do these lists have the Titles Good and Evil?  Smart and Stupid, or People I would trust my dog with, People I wouldn't trust a houseplant with? 

Heck, this is Good vs. Evil here...there's nothing else like it   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:49:01 PM
I just have no idea what knowledge Joy would have to be on the phone with D Casey? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::

Hey Boo I get it now, we thought he said PSYCHIC, but it must have been PSYCHO!!!!!


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:50:21 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:51:52 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.

I was gonna post that!  I think you read my mind!

WooooHoooo!  CBB has developed psychic abilities!   ::MonkeyTongue::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I'm NOT a believer in psychics, you humble hound you!  ::MonkeyWink::

Great minds think alike remember!!  ::MonkeyTongue::

But if I did have psychic abilities, I'd have known that I needed documentation of phone calls or Nancy Grace was going to make a fool of me!  ::MonkeyWink::

Well, one thing that does not require psychic ability:  I bet that LE IS going to get the phone records check out! 



Yep, you're right, Puzzler! I'd also bet that Verizon won't have any problem giving it to them either. Maybe they can help out the psychic and set up her online account.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:52:00 PM
Sea Searcher:    :2waver:

Hi Sparky.. (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/cid_00e901c66554881fee1033edf204HAL.gif)
I saw you sorta kinda but not really defending me against that vicious JSM spreading false rumors about me again..then running out the door  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 10:52:11 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



Oooh, I think you may have something there Perri!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 13, 2009, 10:52:30 PM
what abandon houe are you guys talking about......can be the ¨apartment¨ casey said that left Caylee
No it is an abandoned house a half a mile from the Anthonys. The people who own it went back to Puerto Rico, and their last name is Gonzalez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Listening to a clip of Kronk on Greta's show...Kronk almost sounds like he believes that the bags he originally called in about were Caylee.  LP says Kronk was keying on a place that was 150 feet from where the remains were.

These people just bump their gums...things are confusing because they discuss information that is 2 days old...on SM, we're days ahead of them. 

The reports to LE by Kronk of a suspicious white bag 150 feet from the remains were NOT the remains.  But EVERYONE is acting and discussing it on TV as though theý're the same!

Kronk has stayed after this for a reason....I believe the reason is that he was being fed information from a source.

Ugh!  Baden is now saying on Greta's show that Kronk reported that the bag was just off the side of the road and that is evidenced by where the police put up their tent.

Huh!?!  150 feet away is 150 feet away!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:54:50 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

That's a wonderful idea!  I'm sorry, I gave up trying to catch up.  I'd be reading till midnight and still be 20 pages back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 10:54:54 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

I missed the original t-shirt discussion, what is this about? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 10:55:29 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 10:56:14 PM
So the psychic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 10:56:21 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.


Foggy here: I was baptized Catholic--and have been alive for awhile.  Hey, forget the Catholic forbidding cremation way back when and their more relaxed attitude about it now.  If Ants are Catholic, I think they'll have the proverbial "come to Jesus meeting" when their time comes with cremation being kind low on the list of priorities if ya'll catch my drift.

I wasnt alive yet in the 60s and I know that catholics didnt agree with cremation at first.  You are kidding??   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::

He didn't show any pics, which was the litmus test, wasn't it?

He seemed honest to me, but I'm not the best judge.  Ive been married three times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
what abandon houe are you guys talking about......can be the ¨apartment¨ casey said that left Caylee

The Abandoned house in the video that Hoover took of Dominic Casey rummaging and digging around. 
see this video

http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 10:56:37 PM
One of the things that struck me when I watched the meter reader's interview was the fact that school wasn't in session in August and there would be no reason for traffic on that section of road at that time. Having seen the map, and seeing that the road indeed does dead-end at the school, it made me think that fact would be something that Casey would have been very aware of too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 10:57:40 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.
We are in the same time zone as Va..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 10:58:13 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

There is no time difference from anywhere in VA to Orlando. I live in VA.

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 10:58:21 PM
The psychic from earlier is out of Virginia. 

I must need new glasses.  I'm not going to say what I thought your post said, but my first reaction was, "Well, duhhh!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 10:59:02 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

I missed the original t-shirt discussion, what is this about? 
the Help Find Caylee, the A's are trying to sell for 10.00 each. i want to know if that is what they say & where is the money going, to charily, to Caylee's funeral/memorial or what? i just think this is totally worse than tacky!!!!! it say to e-mail jody parker, i think that's her name so you can order. this would be a personal e-mail, no monkeys involved (just me)

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 10:59:35 PM

Sea I really miss Bearly's pretty face and her sharp wit.  Bring her back!!!!!
[/quote]

So do I A1....I know she has a lot going on right now so I'm waiting patiently and trying not to get into too much trouble while she's away...I just hope she's doing OK and will be back soon... I too miss her smiling face...and making her jealous  ::MonkeyRoll:: makes the heart grow fonder so they say... personally I just say...run like he**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scatty on January 13, 2009, 10:59:57 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

I believe  FL time and VA time are the same. BTW, kitkat, I loooooooove your avi. It is stunningly beautiful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:00:07 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.


Foggy here: I was baptized Catholic--and have been alive for awhile.  Hey, forget the Catholic forbidding cremation way back when and their more relaxed attitude about it now.  If Ants are Catholic, I think they'll have the proverbial "come to Jesus meeting" when their time comes with cremation being kind low on the list of priorities if ya'll catch my drift.

I wasnt alive yet in the 60s and I know that catholics didnt agree with cremation at first.  You are kidding??   ::MonkeyEek::


Holy moley, I really messed up my last post somehow including Shan's last line.  I'm sorry  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
okay... so the psychic had the dream in the nite.. woke up PI at 3 am... tells him to go there...he goes the next morning.. she is telling him what to look for ... not to poke to hard... blah blah blah...


so odd..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 13, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::

It's here if you want to see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEvhZkDxuF0&feature=channel_page

I thought it was odd when he said, "I figured this out myself."

He went in there to relieve himself. What did he "figure?"

He also mentioned that, "No good deed goes unpunished."

Otherwise, I thought it was not a very interesting interview, myself.
Thanks Brandi, I just watched it.  I thought he was believable but I've been called gullable before so who knows.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:01:27 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

There is no time difference from anywhere in VA to Orlando. I live in VA.

 ::MonkeyWink::

Oh ok . Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:02:53 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

I believe  FL time and VA time are the same. BTW, kitkat, I loooooooove your avi. It is stunningly beautiful!

Thank you. I love yours too. Puss-n-Boots is one of my favorite Shrek characters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 13, 2009, 11:02:56 PM
I'm going to bed, night monkeys!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:03:35 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....



OJ DID IT  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brachiate on January 13, 2009, 11:03:35 PM
I looked at the pictures of the abandoned house in the Dominick Casey video. Somebody cuts the grass for that property. Somebody has been in that yard multiple times since the owners left. You'd think they would have noticed anything unusual... (more unusual than all those soda machines)


On Greta's show, Dr. Baden just said that police "have the hair, they have toxicology, they know who the father is, you know, from the DNA, uh, there is a lot of stuff they know"
Is he speculating? or does LE truly have DNA proof of paternity? And how come this isn't "bombshell" news?  ::MonkeyConfused::
   

   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 11:04:57 PM
I'm going to bed, night monkeys!   ::MonkeyCool::

Good night Boo. Sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: dottie on January 13, 2009, 11:06:10 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::

He didn't show any pics, which was the litmus test, wasn't it?

He seemed honest to me, but I'm not the best judge.  Ive been married three times.
HaHa, Bless your heart! I'm a little gullable myself.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 13, 2009, 11:06:33 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.

I wasnt alive yet in the 60s and I know that catholics didnt agree with cremation at first.  You are kidding??   ::MonkeyEek::
They still don't do a mass without the body. Mass then the cremation. That isn't the orthodox version, it is just the regular Catholic vesion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 11:10:30 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh........ you owe me a diet coke!! Wiping off my monitor here!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:10:42 PM
Goodnight BooFeel Better!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:11:25 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


planted by mark fuhrman....


Good one ha ha  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:13:03 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:13:13 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 13, 2009, 11:13:51 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

The name is for sure Hernan:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:14:21 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

Sorry Wendy, I buzzed through the posts so fast, I didnt get to reply to all the ones i wanted to.  I think it's a wonderful idea.  Nothing to lose right?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 11:15:12 PM
One of the things that struck me when I watched the meter reader's interview was the fact that school wasn't in session in August and there would be no reason for traffic on that section of road at that time. Having seen the map, and seeing that the road indeed does dead-end at the school, it made me think that fact would be something that Casey would have been very aware of too.
I WANT TO BELIEVE THE METER READER!!!!!!! I DO! but if he knows that route & reads the schools meter (hidden oaks) i think he would know the name. i don't think he was involved in Caylee's death in any way, but i do think he was fed info. if i felt that strongly that it may be something having to do with Caylee's remains, i would have sat there day & nite until the police checked it out, but that's just me. there are just too many people that know each other in this case. and also, this is just me, i wouldn't want a dime for finding Caylee's remains, or any tips leading to it. if nothing else, i would donate the money to a charity in Caylee's name.(even if it was a charity of my choice) again this is just me & i do want to be wrong. jmo.

wendi.

and i do know things are hard for alot of people right now, but my husband's employee's are having to take paycut's & that is the main reason we are moving. why should we expect people that have worked long & hard for us over the years to do without or cut back & not us. they are the reason we are considered the best in the country.
sorry, the last part is o/t-there are just some things money can't buy.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 13, 2009, 11:16:12 PM
I looked at the pictures of the abandoned house in the Dominick Casey video. Somebody cuts the grass for that property. Somebody has been in that yard multiple times since the owners left. You'd think they would have noticed anything unusual... (more unusual than all those soda machines)


On Greta's show, Dr. Baden just said that police "have the hair, they have toxicology, they know who the father is, you know, from the DNA, uh, there is a lot of stuff they know"
Is he speculating? or does LE truly have DNA proof of paternity? And how come this isn't "bombshell" news?  ::MonkeyConfused::
   

   
I am wondering what the address is of that house. Belich said it has been abandoned for
about a year. Well, no one lives there for now. There is a story to the house. Who just abandons a house unless it is a shack or these is some extreme issue.  Like someone said, there is someone taking care of it as it would be grown over with vegetation by now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:16:57 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html

So the missing end up in wells now days?   :2thinky:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:16:58 PM
Klaas...  Don't yo think it is weird that it was rumored the meter reader's name was Manny German (pronounced Herman -close to Hernan) and now it turns out that Hernan Gonzales owns that house?  What is going on here?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:17:14 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.

Russ, what where the names? To sleepy to go look them up TIA

I don't have a good way to find the home ownership.  Torrez is one name though I think.  Anyone know a good link to see property ownership?


Property tax records is one of the best ways to delve into that sort of thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 11:18:19 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 13, 2009, 11:18:44 PM
I'm going to bed, night monkeys!   ::MonkeyCool::
Good nite Boo(tiful)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:18:45 PM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::

If Joy is psychic, all of my gut reactions for the last 45 years must come into question.    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

LMAO  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 13, 2009, 11:19:03 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html

The website graphics pretty much says it all. At first glance, I thought the guy on the left was taking a leak!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:19:07 PM
I looked at the pictures of the abandoned house in the Dominick Casey video. Somebody cuts the grass for that property. Somebody has been in that yard multiple times since the owners left. You'd think they would have noticed anything unusual... (more unusual than all those soda machines)


On Greta's show, Dr. Baden just said that police "have the hair, they have toxicology, they know who the father is, you know, from the DNA, uh, there is a lot of stuff they know"
Is he speculating? or does LE truly have DNA proof of paternity? And how come this isn't "bombshell" news?  ::MonkeyConfused::
   

   
I am wondering what the address is of that house. Belich said it has been abandoned for
about a year. Well, no one lives there for now. There is a story to the house. Who just abandons a house unless it is a shack or these is some extreme issue.  Like someone said, there is someone taking care of it as it would be grown over with vegetation by now.

8718 Brackenwood Dr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.

Russ, what where the names? To sleepy to go look them up TIA

I don't have a good way to find the home ownership.  Torrez is one name though I think.  Anyone know a good link to see property ownership?


Property tax records is one of the best ways to delve into that sort of thing.

Go to the Blog page of SM.  Red has the blog posted which includes the names of the neighboring homes with Zenaida.....  and GOnzalez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 13, 2009, 11:20:12 PM
I looked at the pictures of the abandoned house in the Dominick Casey video. Somebody cuts the grass for that property. Somebody has been in that yard multiple times since the owners left. You'd think they would have noticed anything unusual... (more unusual than all those soda machines)


On Greta's show, Dr. Baden just said that police "have the hair, they have toxicology, they know who the father is, you know, from the DNA, uh, there is a lot of stuff they know"
Is he speculating? or does LE truly have DNA proof of paternity? And how come this isn't "bombshell" news?  ::MonkeyConfused::
   

   
I am wondering what the address is of that house. Belich said it has been abandoned for
about a year. Well, no one lives there for now. There is a story to the house. Who just abandons a house unless it is a shack or these is some extreme issue.  Like someone said, there is someone taking care of it as it would be grown over with vegetation by now.

8718 Brackenwood Dr
Supposedly the family returned to Puerto Rico....   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
I looked at the pictures of the abandoned house in the Dominick Casey video. Somebody cuts the grass for that property. Somebody has been in that yard multiple times since the owners left. You'd think they would have noticed anything unusual... (more unusual than all those soda machines)


On Greta's show, Dr. Baden just said that police "have the hair, they have toxicology, they know who the father is, you know, from the DNA, uh, there is a lot of stuff they know"
Is he speculating? or does LE truly have DNA proof of paternity? And how come this isn't "bombshell" news?  ::MonkeyConfused::
   

   
I am wondering what the address is of that house. Belich said it has been abandoned for
about a year. Well, no one lives there for now. There is a story to the house. Who just abandons a house unless it is a shack or these is some extreme issue.  Like someone said, there is someone taking care of it as it would be grown over with vegetation by now.
Kat, Florida has one of, if not the highest, foreclosure rates in the country right now.. people are just walking away..On almost every street here in Port St Lucie, you will see at least 1 or 2 empties. The banks maintain them, or the city will and then just bill the bank. They are doing this for those of us who are lucky enough to be in our homes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:20:43 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If you all ever need a refresher, just look at my sig line  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 13, 2009, 11:21:51 PM
VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."


Fascinating post, Hudsunn! Psychology is one of my driving interests, and I think you've really made some terrific, insightful, and very logical observations.

Best insight yet!! I'm going to tell my Aunt to come here and read this..verry fascinating!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 13, 2009, 11:21:55 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

Sorry Wendy, I buzzed through the posts so fast, I didnt get to reply to all the ones i wanted to.  I think it's a wonderful idea.  Nothing to lose right?  ::MonkeyWink::

nope, so i will let ya'll know what i hear back & also what i wrote. tia.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:22:55 PM
Russ, try the Orange County Property Appraisers office.. google the web addy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 11:23:12 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html

The website graphics pretty much says it all. At first glance, I thought the guy on the left was taking a leak!


At first glance that is what I thought to, but actually he is witching:  thanks wikepedia!!

Dowsing, sometimes called divining, doodlebugging (in the US), or (when searching specifically for water) water finding or water witching, is a practice that attempts to locate hidden water wells, buried metals or ores, gemstones, or other objects as well as currents of earth radiation without the use of scientific apparatus. A Y- or L-shaped twig or rod is sometimes used during dowsing, although some dowsers use other equipment or no equipment at all.

Dowsing has been in use since ancient times and is still widely practiced although the scientific evidence for its efficacy is disputed.[1] In the 1980s German physicists undertook a large experimental study of dowsing and concluded that a "real core of dowser-phenomena can be regarded as empirically proven", while physiologist J. T. Enright wrote that those same experiments provided "the most convincing disproof imaginable that dowsers can do what they claim.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 13, 2009, 11:25:20 PM
I remember that.
"Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan " I read it here. I believe the source was WebSleuths..
and what other stupid thing is :
Some psychic had said she will be found where the German Shepard pees... and then ...
they say the name as German Gonzales... this was the same day it was reported the a MR found remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:25:22 PM
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/heykim2/home.jpg)


safely back from walking THOR.. i TOLD you it is a scary walk!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:25:59 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

no time difference.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 11:26:23 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

The name is for sure Hernan:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)

Thanks Klaas.  I get that the home is definitely owned by Hernan and I understand the facebook guy is probably 99.9% positively NOT connected in any real way to the case.  Just that the names are too close for me to let go of.  I feel like a bloodhound on a scent.  I don't even know what the scent is, but I'm compelled to sniff it to see where it goes.  I mean German, Herman, Hernan Gonazalez...  so if you shortened Hernan the same way you guys did German, you get NANNY...  And this guy moved back to PR according to his neighbor...  I mean, that is hinky!

 ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 13, 2009, 11:27:09 PM
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."
When I heard him say this, I laughed so hard I almost coughed up a lung! Best quote from this gagglecluster yet!!
On that note, I will take some magic cough medicine and go to bed..
Goodnight Smart Monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:27:35 PM
Just trying to read through...a little hit and miss.  I did not see the GMA interview.  So is the general concensious of the monkeys that he was believeable? Do we need to call sponsors?  ::MonkeyWink::

He didn't show any pics, which was the litmus test, wasn't it?

He seemed honest to me, but I'm not the best judge.  Ive been married three times.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:29:16 PM
random thought alert


when lee's lawyer bumbles through his answer about whether LEE was on the PHONE ...

he didnt say CONFIDENTLY that it wasnt..

and i dunno.... i SUPPOSE if you go with the option of what IS IS... perhaps lee told *fill in the blank with a creep d'jour*    who ACTUALLY made the call.....well then.. i guess the   bumbling idiot LAWYER  could be telling the TRUTH ..


naw.. that would never happen..
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If you all ever need a refresher, just look at my sig line  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

heh.. thx.. but i DOUBT whether i EVER forget THAT exchange.... it was like watching PORKY PIG... i havent seen THAT much stuttering  since good ole pork... ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 13, 2009, 11:30:13 PM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:30:37 PM


Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 

That changed in the 60's (Vatican II made a lot of changes). Now it's perfectly ok for a Catholic to be cremated.


Foggy here: I was baptized Catholic--and have been alive for awhile.  Hey, forget the Catholic forbidding cremation way back when and their more relaxed attitude about it now.  If Ants are Catholic, I think they'll have the proverbial "come to Jesus meeting" when their time comes with cremation being kind low on the list of priorities if ya'll catch my drift.

I wasnt alive yet in the 60s and I know that catholics didnt agree with cremation at first.  You are kidding??   ::MonkeyEek::


Holy moley, I really messed up my last post somehow including Shan's last line.  I'm sorry  ::MonkeyWaa::

NO PROBLEM, happens to me all the time!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:31:44 PM
If this house is somehow connected with CA then with all the stuff lying around on the porch, backyard, etc  and if possibly she went inside it is possible the she found mail, pictures, receipts or whatever with these people's name on it. To just abandon the house and move back to Puerto Rico I doubt they would have been able to take everything with them so they just probably left stuff to be someone else's mess to clean up. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 11:32:39 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

The name is for sure Hernan:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/8718brackenwood.jpg)

I threw together a map to show where the houses and remains site are:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/map-house.jpg)

I think I got the approx. site of remains close enough.

Wow, photobucket sure did something weird with the text!
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 13, 2009, 11:33:01 PM
"Kat, Florida has one of, if not the highest, foreclosure rates in the country right now.. people are just walking away..On almost every street here in Port St Lucie, you will see at least 1 or 2 empties. The banks maintain them, or the city will and then just bill the bank. They are doing this for those of us who are lucky enough to be in our homes."

But the economy hadn't tanked a year ago. A year ago it was still in boom mode, here anyways.
There are just too many strange things and dots that might be connected or not. I am in an information overload brain thing right noe and I can't figure out where or how that name came up on WS. I don't read there, I read here and it was posted here. How did a person on WS get that name when all that was said at the time was the remains were found and the sort of location. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 13, 2009, 11:33:07 PM

If you all ever need a refresher, just look at my sig line  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Very Nice signature!!!  I just hope Baez hires him to help prepare all the defense witnesses!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 13, 2009, 11:36:29 PM
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/heykim2/home.jpg)


safely back from walking THOR.. i TOLD you it is a scary walk!

Glad you made it!

That pic is beautiful. I'd be happy to take some of that snow for you here in VA!
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: janetruth on January 13, 2009, 11:37:53 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html

So, if it's a missing well, or an extremely damp person, who ya gonna call?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:38:28 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:39:16 PM
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/heykim2/home.jpg)


safely back from walking THOR.. i TOLD you it is a scary walk!

Glad you made it!

That pic is beautiful. I'd be happy to take some of that snow for you here in VA!
 ::MonkeyDance::


thx bran! i live in the boonies.. this is our house and driveway .... i took it last week.. we have had some melt down since.. alot of ice... but basically that is what it has looked like for a few months... and last year was the same way...
global warming no doubt...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 13, 2009, 11:39:40 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Absolutely!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 13, 2009, 11:40:06 PM
Read the psychic and dad's website.. it's hysterical.. they search for wells and locate the missing  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/services.html

but they can't find phone bills!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:40:39 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.

or...using plastic sheeting and the duct tape to prepare for a TERRORIST ATTACK and got taped inbetween.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:44:17 PM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh........ you owe me a diet coke!! Wiping off my monitor here!!



No new monitor for you  ::MonkeyTongue::! 

But I'm sure glad to hear that I've helped lighten this desperately sad (and depressing) discussion for a moment or two.  More often than not my late Daddy got on me re. my sarcastic bent but way back then that was the only way I could get my point across.  I don't do it on purpose, but I've noticed after some decades that folks repond to the absurd a bit more readily (even when it ticks 'em off)--esp. when it is re. a ridiculous and/or mind-boggling/heartbreaking situation.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 13, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
The post about the German Shepherd peeing and that the MR name was German was made before Dec 14. I looked in an email sent to my DD dated Dec 14. She was at work and I was giving her the Readers Digest version of what I had read. Proably that same day.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:45:32 PM
bah! hubby and daughter2 are watching TED BUNDY mark harmon and csi or some crap out here... dont they KNOW that i need to watch nancy and greta again... bah!

csi! ha! silly show that wraps everything up neatly at the end of an hour... not like THIS STUFF.. where every HOUR something WIERD happens that changes EVERYTHING...


they cant HANDLE reality..:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 13, 2009, 11:49:27 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Absolutely!

Someone said that people always tell the truth, meaning there is a bit of truth in all their lies.  Could Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez going to Puerto Rico be a bit of the truth in KC's story?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: monkeywink on January 13, 2009, 11:50:22 PM
okay... so the psychic had the dream in the nite.. woke up PI at 3 am... tells him to go there...he goes the next morning.. she is telling him what to look for ... not to poke to hard... blah blah blah...


so odd..

She couldn't have had a dream at 3am and then called up DC to tell him where the body is..........because DC had told Hoover the day before to meet him at his (DC's) office.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:51:27 PM

If you all ever need a refresher, just look at my sig line  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Very Nice signature!!!  I just hope Baez hires him to help prepare all the defense witnesses!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

oh yeah...wouldnt that be great??!!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 13, 2009, 11:51:32 PM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

Someone on another site said the neighboring house owners each have different last names which are the same group of last names Kio had.

Goodness, the girl she modeled her ZFG story after.

Russ, what where the names? To sleepy to go look them up TIA

I don't have a good way to find the home ownership.  Torrez is one name though I think.  Anyone know a good link to see property ownership?

Here is a link for property records in orange county.. ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.ocpafl.org/

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/ExtPropertyLinks.aspx?SessionID=3dfdbe1c-5e8f-436c-bc1b-76a4f45e688f

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order?thisPage=MyFloridaCounty.ORI.Order.state.Start




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 13, 2009, 11:52:19 PM
So the phsycic called DC at 6am but the timestamp on the tape says 9. She is frome Bluemont, VA. I don't know if she was there when she called him but wouldn't the time difference from VA to Fl only be like an hour. I may be wrong I don't travel much but have been to Florida quite a few times.

no time difference.

Well, I live in Florida (Redneck Riviera part) and WE are an hour's difference, O/T~ the plane from the missing scam artist crashed about 20 miles from me..........several of my co-workers live in Milton, FL. What a piece of sh!t, he almost slammed into a house there ::MonkeyNoNo::

OK, back on topic~Wendi, I think that's a great idea, also your families sacrifice reminds me what of a different generation.......what a great family you must have ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 13, 2009, 11:53:34 PM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 13, 2009, 11:54:40 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!



Wowee zowee!  I'm impressed whether or not your observations are relevant/helpful resulting in the alleged perp and the other miscreants decorating their particular places in the pokey. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 13, 2009, 11:56:13 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Absolutely!

Someone said that people always tell the truth, meaning there is a bit of truth in all their lies.  Could Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez going to Puerto Rico be a bit of the truth in KC's story?

YES, I really think it is. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 13, 2009, 11:58:13 PM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 13, 2009, 11:59:28 PM
okay... so the psychic had the dream in the nite.. woke up PI at 3 am... tells him to go there...he goes the next morning.. she is telling him what to look for ... not to poke to hard... blah blah blah...


so odd..

She couldn't have had a dream at 3am and then called up DC to tell him where the body is..........because DC had told Hoover the day before to meet him at his (DC's) office.

well i COULD be wrong.. but i SWEAR (NOT on a stack of bibles of course.. i am not THAT sure) that THAT is what the loon psyhic SAID on NG..

of course i cant SEE it again... because family is watching TED BUNDY mark harmon on csi..
so i will have to see if they will quit watching crap their show before NG comes on again...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 14, 2009, 12:01:23 AM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA

Hey SS. I am not Klaas, but there are instructions under the Help tab. Just be sure you don't post one that loops, like I did once!  LOL



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA

No instructions and it's sort of tricky.  My suggestion to you is to pretend you are going to quote a post where I've added a Youtube, that way you can see what I did.  FYI, I use the flash (http://scaredmonkeys.net/Themes/default/images/bbc/flash.gif) icon  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Cappuccino on January 14, 2009, 12:03:21 AM
When I asked LP who he thought was on the phone with DC, he said Joy.  ::MonkeyCool::

yup, same here

And guess what Joy was at that KFN/Anthony "Meet and Greet" on the 15th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:05:12 AM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh........ you owe me a diet coke!! Wiping off my monitor here!!



No new monitor for you  ::MonkeyTongue::! 

But I'm sure glad to hear that I've helped lighten this desperately sad (and depressing) discussion for a moment or two.  More often than not my late Daddy got on me re. my sarcastic bent but way back then that was the only way I could get my point across.  I don't do it on purpose, but I've noticed after some decades that folks repond to the absurd a bit more readily (even when it ticks 'em off)--esp. when it is re. a ridiculous and/or mind-boggling/heartbreaking situation.



I know. I felt guilty laughing, but the absurdity/tragedy mix is sort of like the laughter through tears thing. Thx! I needed that!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 12:05:19 AM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA

No instructions and it's sort of tricky.  My suggestion to you is to pretend you are going to quote a post where I've added a Youtube, that way you can see what I did.  FYI, I use the flash (http://scaredmonkeys.net/Themes/default/images/bbc/flash.gif) icon  ::MonkeyCool::

I tried that...it didn't work  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 12:08:07 AM
Name Orange County  property search.. ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.octaxcol.com/PropertyTaxSearch/PropertySearch.aspx

All of Florida name property search by County.. ::MonkeyTongue::

http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/property/taxcollectors.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA

Hey SS. I am not Klaas, but there are instructions under the Help tab. Just be sure you don't post one that loops, like I did once!  LOL



I remember that...my computers never been the same since...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:08:48 AM
O/T.. Klaas

Are there instructions somewhere on  how to get a youtube vid in a post ?
not just the link but the actual picture?

TIA

No instructions and it's sort of tricky.  My suggestion to you is to pretend you are going to quote a post where I've added a Youtube, that way you can see what I did.  FYI, I use the flash (http://scaredmonkeys.net/Themes/default/images/bbc/flash.gif) icon  ::MonkeyCool::

I tried that...it didn't work  ::MonkeyWaa::


OH NO! and ELVIS WANNABE   SS  sounds DESPERATE to do it! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 12:09:06 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 12:09:34 AM
If this house is somehow connected with CA then with all the stuff lying around on the porch, backyard, etc  and if possibly she went inside it is possible the she found mail, pictures, receipts or whatever with these people's name on it. To just abandon the house and move back to Puerto Rico I doubt they would have been able to take everything with them so they just probably left stuff to be someone else's mess to clean up. JMO

Well, that makes sense too.  In wondering what on earth KC could have been doing during the time she pretended she was at work, but was just waiting for her parents to leave so she could go home or didn't have a friend's place she could go to, maybe she scoped out an abandoned home in the neighborhood she could hang out in while she waited. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

Thanks  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: monkeymike on January 14, 2009, 12:12:19 AM
I might be getting old, but back when I was a kid, what this physic claimed to be an expert with was being a "dowser". A dowser finds underwater lines back in my day but she claims a bit more.

My dad worked for Fridgedaire or GM in the 40's to 70's. He had a fellow worker who showed him how to dowse. We took wire coat hangers, cut out a portion without the hook, bent them to an "L" shape (about 12" x 6"). You put/balance the short end of the hanger 6" side on the tip of your little finger. Then you lift up your index finger to balance the 12" side of the L. Follow me? If you walk carefully, say in your back yard, you can find your water lines/pipes. I have done it. Don't know if it's my magnetism, cut, or the bent hangers. LOL...Nite


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: monkeywink on January 14, 2009, 12:14:53 AM
okay... so the psychic had the dream in the nite.. woke up PI at 3 am... tells him to go there...he goes the next morning.. she is telling him what to look for ... not to poke to hard... blah blah blah...


so odd..

She couldn't have had a dream at 3am and then called up DC to tell him where the body is..........because DC had told Hoover the day before to meet him at his (DC's) office.

well i COULD be wrong.. but i SWEAR (NOT on a stack of bibles of course.. i am not THAT sure) that THAT is what the loon psyhic SAID on NG..

of course i cant SEE it again... because family is watching TED BUNDY mark harmon on csi..
so i will have to see if they will quit watching crap their show before NG comes on again...

You're probably right.  She's probably lying.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:17:55 AM
okay... so the psychic had the dream in the nite.. woke up PI at 3 am... tells him to go there...he goes the next morning.. she is telling him what to look for ... not to poke to hard... blah blah blah...


so odd..

She couldn't have had a dream at 3am and then called up DC to tell him where the body is..........because DC had told Hoover the day before to meet him at his (DC's) office.

well i COULD be wrong.. but i SWEAR (NOT on a stack of bibles of course.. i am not THAT sure) that THAT is what the loon psyhic SAID on NG..

of course i cant SEE it again... because family is watching TED BUNDY mark harmon on csi..
so i will have to see if they will quit watching crap their show before NG comes on again...

You're probably right.  She's probably lying.  JMO


LYING?????  surely you cant MEAN that!  somebody in THIS CASE ...LYING??

heh... sarcasm...heavy heavy SARCASM...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
heykim? I've got to ask............

I noticed you named your cute pooch "Thor". Are you a Hobbitt fan?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:24:11 AM
heykim? I've got to ask............

I noticed you named your cute pooch "Thor". Are you a Hobbitt fan?

NOPE...
actually hubby renamed him THOR.. he was actually LEO until hubby decided that he had an ATTITUDE (thor,,, not hubby)


well. actually BOTH... but thats neither here nor there..

:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:26:08 AM
heykim? I've got to ask............

I noticed you named your cute pooch "Thor". Are you a Hobbitt fan?

NOPE...
actually hubby renamed him THOR.. he was actually LEO until hubby decided that he had an ATTITUDE (thor,,, not hubby)


well. actually BOTH... but thats neither here nor there..

:)

Well, attitude should make that cutie even more adorable!  ::MonkeyWink::
Thor was an important dwarf in the book so I was just curious. Sorry for the O/T.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 12:31:36 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

I Did It !!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks Klaas !!!!

and Hey Kim.....  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

I Did It !!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks Klaas !!!!

and Hey Kim.....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Excellent!  See what I mean by hard to explain?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 12:36:45 AM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????


akmom,    Real life keeps intruding tonight, and I'm really worn out and brain-fried... still catching up...  slowly, in a fog...
 ::MonkeyConfused::
Anyway, I saw this and wanted to say I do think it's possible that Casey would use a vacant house or apartment as a kind of hideaway, or personal clubhouse.  Her version of Caylee's backyard playhouse.  It could very well be a place to hide Caylee, too, alive or well, .. not alive.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

And I do also think it is very interesting that this house has been vacant for "about a year" or "over a year" ----  that would be last Jan. or Feb. maybe.  Apartment #210 at Sawgrass, where Casey claims she "dropped off" Caylee with ZFG, was vacant and had been so since February '08, IIRC.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 12:40:21 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

I Did It !!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks Klaas !!!!

and Hey Kim.....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Excellent!  See what I mean by hard to explain?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yes...but you explained it well...I should have thought to use the preview before I botched the first one....

Can I have an edit button now  ::MonkeyRoll:: and we might need a moderator to keep things on topic   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ..

oh..and how about one of those key things  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Cappuccino on January 14, 2009, 12:41:40 AM
I doesnt matter if this psychic is willing to lie about the time she talked to DC on behalf of the Anthonys - what matters is if her phone records & DC's phone records and cell pings match during the times he was at the recovery crime scene area searching, welding his knife, probing & digging.   Rest assure the FBI already knows all this already

Another point DC has offered several excuses & people he spoke to - so his credibilty is shot!

Most importanly though, the Anthonys hired him to find a live Caylee, they never eluded to anything but until the other day thru their attorney which we all know is a lie.   That being the case, if you are insisting that Caylee is alive & you are begging the public to get off their a$$es to help them find Caylee then you DO NOT need to ask for the assistance of a psychic/dowser PERIOD  So what was the reason they will offer as to why they were asking for her help to find a buried body many weeks in advance of Caylee's remains being found?   This psychic admits that she was given one of Caylee's teddy bears, that establishes that the Anthony family was in support of this search for her remains & knew she was dead...well I contend that they knew the minute they picked up their daughter's deathmobile.

Also, about koolaid coocoo Joy Wray- I watched the Fox35 video tonight & picked up on the fact that she is at the meet & greet tent with the Anthonys on the 15th
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8244457&version=1&locale=EN-US

She is in way thick helping them & it was her trying to say TM was wrong about water being at that site in August by misleading the investigators at the recovery site after she stalked the scene for days (Phil Keaton even reported seeing her there every day for hours on end). She was also present when they rudely & unjustifably removed toys from Suburban's memorial, again family or not they had no right to that property as to where it was located technically.   As we speak, they plan on destroying what is left of Caylee to save that babykilling monster of theirs - dont be fooled they are eliminating any possibility of new evidence coming to light that would require it to be exhumed, grave stealing o come on - yes this is national but not even Jon Benet Ramsey, Anna Nicole or Jessica Lunsford ETC had that as a consideration much less possible threat...this family is deplorable, disgusting, vile & just pure evil.

PS Cindy is rather stupid to be corresponding to Lois right now - she just gave away the defense in the process not to mention it shows her adamantly defending Casey more than she is concerned for giving that precious babygirl a timely respectful funeral...despicable!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:42:06 AM
Russ, try the Orange County Property Appraisers office.. google the web addy


Okay, 8718 Brackenwood Drive is the abandoned home.
The neighboring house is 8726 and there are two owners:
CRUZ RIVERA LUIS
TORRES BURGOS SYLVIA


Kio, the friend of Casey who said she would bury the child near the area, is the person many suspect that Casey used to create details about the fictitious Zenaida Gonzalez.  Her last name is both Cruz and Torres.  I wonder if this is Kio's parents house, or something to that effect or another one of those "coincidences".


Thanks Flamom and all that tried to help me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:43:04 AM
heykim? I've got to ask............

I noticed you named your cute pooch "Thor". Are you a Hobbitt fan?

NOPE...
actually hubby renamed him THOR.. he was actually LEO until hubby decided that he had an ATTITUDE (thor,,, not hubby)


well. actually BOTH... but thats neither here nor there..

:)

Well, attitude should make that cutie even more adorable!  ::MonkeyWink::
Thor was an important dwarf in the book so I was just curious. Sorry for the O/T.


uh.. i think i saw sean astin in the movie once ...okay i lied..i might have seen a commercial....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA

Nice work.  I wonder if phonebook.com gets information added too, because that Zenaida matches the whitepages listing.  The reverse listings have different listings, but the Zenaida is on both.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:45:57 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

I Did It !!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks Klaas !!!!

and Hey Kim.....  ::MonkeyTongue::


oh gawd,... there'll be no stoppin him now .....

:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:46:27 AM
SS - give me a minute and I'll try and post instructions in the Elvis thread for you

I Did It !!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks Klaas !!!!

and Hey Kim.....  ::MonkeyTongue::

ME THREE!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thank you Klaas! You give GREAT instructions!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 12:47:48 AM
I wonder since the house was abandoned was there possibly a way of getting inside like an unlocked window or maybe a door that could have been easily opened. There could possibly be some things on the inside if the house and area was frequented by Casey.

I was wondering the same thing

I say ....  AB-so-LUTE-ly!
(past experience and teenage kids... trust me.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:48:17 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


I think the same thing.  There has been speculation that she was using that house abandoned to leave Caylee there or going there during the day.  I just don't think that the neighbors of that house would not have noticed the amount of coverage this case has gotten and realized that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Brandi on January 14, 2009, 12:51:46 AM
Well, time for me to go to bed.

Good night everyone.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Sorry my text on the map I made came out so blurry. Nobody commented on the map at all.

Tomorrow is another day.

 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:52:18 AM
I doesnt matter if this psychic is willing to lie about the time she talked to DC on behalf of the Anthonys - what matters is if her phone records & DC's phone records and cell pings match during the times he was at the recovery crime scene area searching, welding his knife, probing & digging.   Rest assure the FBI already knows all this already

Another point DC has offered several excuses & people he spoke to - so his credibilty is shot!

Most importanly though, the Anthonys hired him to find a live Caylee, they never eluded to anything but until the other day thru their attorney which we all know is a lie.   That being the case, if you are insisting that Caylee is alive  & you are begging the public to get off their a$$es to help them find Caylee then you DO NOT need to ask for the assistance of a psychic/dowser PERIOD  So what was the reason they will offer as to why they were asking for her help to find a buried body many weeks in advance of Caylee's remains being found?   This psychic admits that she was given one of Caylee's teddy bears, that establishes that the Anthony family was in support of this search for her remains & knew she was dead...well I contend that they knew the minute they picked up their daughter's deathmobile.

Also, about koolaid coocoo Joy Wray- I watched the Fox35 video tonight & picked up on the fact that she is at the meet & greet tent with the Anthonys on the 15th
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8244457&version=1&locale=EN-US

She is in way thick helping them & it was her trying to say TM was wrong about water being at that site in August by misleading the investigators at the recovery site after she stalked the scene for days (Phil Keaton even reported seeing her there every day for hours on end). She was also present when they rudely & unjustifably removed toys from Suburban's memorial, again family or not they had no right to that property as to where it was located technically.   As we speak, they plan on destroying what is left of Caylee to save that babykilling monster of theirs - dont be fooled they are eliminating any possibility of new evidence coming to light that would require it to be exhumed, grave stealing o come on - yes this is national but not even Jon Benet Ramsey, Anna Nicole or Jessica Lunsford ETC had that as a consideration much less possible threat...this family is deplorable, disgusting, vile & just pure evil.

PS Cindy is rather stupid to be corresponding to Lois right now - she just gave away the defense in the process not to mention it shows her adamantly defending Casey more than she is concerned for giving that precious babygirl a timely respectful funeral...despicable!!


i agree that is pretty interesting... but i believe  that i have seen them look for a LIVE person by using things that belong to the person missing....but it they WOULDNT be telling someone to poke the ground but be careful...

jes sayin..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:53:55 AM
Well, time for me to go to bed.

Good night everyone.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Sorry my text on the map I made came out so blurry. Nobody commented on the map at all.

Tomorrow is another day.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

nite bran!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 12:54:39 AM
Well, time for me to go to bed.

Good night everyone.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Sorry my text on the map I made came out so blurry. Nobody commented on the map at all.

Tomorrow is another day.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Brandi the map was great.  I'm sorry I've been busy tonight and neglected to comment on it.  This case is so frustrating. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 12:57:55 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


I think the same thing.  There has been speculation that she was using that house abandoned to leave Caylee there or going there during the day.  I just don't think that the neighbors of that house would not have noticed the amount of coverage this case has gotten and realized that.

I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 12:59:01 AM
Well, time for me to go to bed.

Good night everyone.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Sorry my text on the map I made came out so blurry. Nobody commented on the map at all.

Tomorrow is another day.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Brandi the map was great.  I'm sorry I've been busy tonight and neglected to comment on it.  This case is so frustrating

aint THAT the truth! when i see DREW still getting him another young  VICTIM fiance'  i cant HELP but get that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach ......
SO MANY frustrating cases....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 01:03:14 AM
Good Night Monkeys...

All this computer learning dun wore me out...

See you in the morning for coffee (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Be good...and stay on topic...  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 01:06:32 AM
The woman the Gonzalez's at 8718 Brackenwood Drive bought the house from has the same name, Gonzalez.  Interestingly, she signed the papers in NY City as she lived there at the time they bought the house which is now apparently abandoned so they could move to Puerto Rico. 

Goodness.  Did Casey know these people or are the neighbors Cruz-Torres related to Kio, possibly her parents and that is how she got the information?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: heykim on January 14, 2009, 01:07:25 AM
Good Night Monkeys...

All this computer learning dun wore me out...

See you in the morning for coffee (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Be good...and stay on topic...  ::MonkeyCool::


nite ELVIS  ss.. ! i am headed out too... got my rerun of NG on...

nite yall!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: seemeatthebeach on January 14, 2009, 01:10:15 AM
My mom, sister, and I are going to visit Caylee's memorial site on Thursday.
If any monkeys have any suggestions of what they might like me to take photos/videos....in addition to the crime scene area, please let me know.
You can email me seemeatthebeach@aol.com
We are about 2 hours from where Caylee was found. If anyone else would like to go with us, we have room for 1 more person in my mom's car.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: akmom on January 14, 2009, 01:11:49 AM
I am reposting this because I am really getting worried about this........


I am going to float this out there.  I don't even know what to think any more and I am a couple of pages behind.  Is it possible that she left Caylee at this house frequently, but when she went back the last time, Caylee had gotten into something and died?  Casey then panicked, thought she would bury her at home, changed her mind and then dropped the body off at the place where it was found.  At some point decided to make it look as though Caylee were kidnapped, thus the duct tape.  Throw nanners, I have though all along that Casey did this.  She would still be responsible, but......I don't know anything about law, but if they do not charge her correctly and this is happened, couldn't she actually get off?????


akmom,    Real life keeps intruding tonight, and I'm really worn out and brain-fried... still catching up...  slowly, in a fog...
 ::MonkeyConfused::
Anyway, I saw this and wanted to say I do think it's possible that Casey would use a vacant house or apartment as a kind of hideaway, or personal clubhouse.  Her version of Caylee's backyard playhouse.  It could very well be a place to hide Caylee, too, alive or well, .. not alive.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

And I do also think it is very interesting that this house has been vacant for "about a year" or "over a year" ----  that would be last Jan. or Feb. maybe.  Apartment #210 at Sawgrass, where Casey claims she "dropped off" Caylee with ZFG, was vacant and had been so since February '08, IIRC.



You know, Caylee's playhouse was what also got me to think about this.  Remember how much she loved it, per Jesse?  If she were left alone for hours at a time, she may very well have been used to "playing house" by herself.  What if, in those garbage bags, there are clothes and toys that she may have had there?  I hope LE gets to that property right away and looks over it good.  You are right, there are all these little bits of truth that we have come up with in this case. 

Whether it may have been an accident or not, Caylee's death is certainly Casey's fault, but she may have justified it in her twisted mind.  If CA and GA told her they were done being babysitters, she would blame them for anything that happened to Caylee because she felt she had to have time off and they wouldn't take care of her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 01:11:58 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


I think the same thing.  There has been speculation that she was using that house abandoned to leave Caylee there or going there during the day.  I just don't think that the neighbors of that house would not have noticed the amount of coverage this case has gotten and realized that.

I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


I want to know if the Cruz-Torres neighbor is Kiomarie's parents.  That would be how Casey knows about a Gonzalez moving to Puerto Rico with NY connections (house sold to Hernan Gonzalez from another Gonzalez who signed the deed transfer in NY).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Puzzler on January 14, 2009, 01:13:57 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


I think the same thing.  There has been speculation that she was using that house abandoned to leave Caylee there or going there during the day.  I just don't think that the neighbors of that house would not have noticed the amount of coverage this case has gotten and realized that.

I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


I want to know if the Cruz-Torres neighbor is Kiomarie's parents.  That would be how Casey knows about a Gonzalez moving to Puerto Rico with NY connections (house sold to Hernan Gonzalez from another Gonzalez who signed the deed transfer in NY).

Russ....good questions!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 01:18:30 AM
I'm pretty sure I read that Kiomarie's house was on Hopespring just a few houses away from the Anthony's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:21:07 AM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA

Nice work.  I wonder if phonebook.com gets information added too, because that Zenaida matches the whitepages listing.  The reverse listings have different listings, but the Zenaida is on both.



Russ, thank you so much for checking it out.  I did have a thought that my big "find" might be explained by something really basic, like maybe if they are unlisted, then the whitepages locator just automatically gives you a map to the city center??  I don't know.

And it may or may not be significant to have the same number, diff area codes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:25:30 AM
I'm pretty sure I read that Kiomarie's house was on Hopespring just a few houses away from the Anthony's

Correctamundo, Oh Great Master Monkey.  I just looked it up!  You are right, 4860 I believe.

BTW, did you get to see the t-shirt debacle by now?  The new myspace post on the official Caylee myspace, dated 1/13, hawking the leftover supplies of Caylee t-shirts, bracelets, etc?  Yikes.... Ghoulish, really.  Sickobilia for sale, come and shop while our merchandise is still in extremely bad taste!  Help us exploit our precious dead granddaughter while supplies last!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

<sigh>  Poor, poor sweet Caylee....   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 14, 2009, 01:25:36 AM
I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out the angle Cindy's going to use when/if Casey's fingerprints are on the duct tape. I don't doubt that she'll come up with some sort of torturous explanation, but she's to creative for me. I don't know how on earth she'll handle that one and maintain Casey's innocence.


Hah!  She'll prob say that her saintly daughter was duct taping the windows to keep out hurricane floodwaters when the late wee lamb got inbetween dutiful daughter and the window casing.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh........ you owe me a diet coke!! Wiping off my monitor here!!



No new monitor for you  ::MonkeyTongue::! 

But I'm sure glad to hear that I've helped lighten this desperately sad (and depressing) discussion for a moment or two.  More often than not my late Daddy got on me re. my sarcastic bent but way back then that was the only way I could get my point across.  I don't do it on purpose, but I've noticed after some decades that folks repond to the absurd a bit more readily (even when it ticks 'em off)--esp. when it is re. a ridiculous and/or mind-boggling/heartbreaking situation.



I know. I felt guilty laughing, but the absurdity/tragedy mix is sort of like the laughter through tears thing. Thx! I needed that!!


CBB, there's nothing like a chuckle or a laugh to lighten ones load.  I have spent my life weeping for the lost and lonely ones, so every giggle opp I get, I go for it like gangbusters.  But if you saw me you'd think I carry the weight of the world on my shoulders and are a humorless sort.  Thankfully, folks like you and this forum, some very dear neighbors and beloved kin and family help me shrug off the load for a periodic rest.

When I signed on here I mentioned that two photos of the late Miss Caylee haunted me because of the resemblance they bear to two pics I have of my beloved older teenager when my heart's darlin' was a wee one.

I can hardly bear the thought of children/animals being lost or fearful.  It flat tears me up.  I kind of need to be here 'cause unlike some of the other convicted perps who've knocked off their own offspring, this alleged perp really, really spooks me.  And what spooks me more is the fact that (to my knowledge) no one was onto her cold, cold heart except in retrospect (if then).  Well, you know what I say?  Sorry, too little too late.

I don't want all the wonky folks to go to the pokey 'cause they are idiots and have no 6th sense.  I think some are truly gullible (witness OJ jury), others are too preoccupied to heed their 6th sense or BS meter.  No crime there.  But folks who let the alleged perp go on her merry way'll have to pay the piper whether through other criminal/civil means, karma, or their own guilt feelings--arguably the worst sentence of all if one actually has a heart. 

I can't really offer anything to the scared monkeys as re. research and such.  But its nice to be a new part of a group who won't berate me for my need to know why the alleged wackadoo did what is she is purported to have done.  Imho, it is counterproductive to worry about all the peripheral players unless they have a clearly tangible effect on the outcome of FL case against the prime suspect and how she spends her money while in the grey bar hotel etc.

I can't recall who said earlier that we will be amazed how clearcut this case is when LE/state's evidence comes to light (my words).  I totally agree.  I just wish the state would get on the stick and get this on the docket rather than fuel spec that they don't have everything they need to effect a slam dunk re. a conviction.  But then the devil's advocate critter in the other part of my mind whispers chill...justice will be served one way or another.  I want their case to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  I don't think any of us want an innocent party to be incarcerated or possibly executed.

Truthfully, I'd sooner the whole dysfunctional fam be thrown in a room together as I said in an earlier post.

To make it even more fun and accessible to folks into reality tv, let each fam member pick their own partner in crime (so to speak  ::MonkeyCool:: )...then let 'em sort it out amongst themselves.  The survivor could have a position on Prez elect's cabinet or something.

Whatev. 

I just want Caylee to be safe and loved again.  I hope there is an afterlife and that she's snuggled in someone's loving embrace.

Right now I'm thinking so much for family values and it taking ...a village to raise a child.  What a bunch of rhetorical bs.  Everyone who knew the baby Caylee has some soul searching to do.    If they don't, well shame on 'em--and shame on any helpless creature that cross their paths in future.

Rant over...well, for now anyway.  ::MonkeyConfused::










Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
I'm pretty sure I read that Kiomarie's house was on Hopespring just a few houses away from the Anthony's


I remember that too, but I thought they moved.  I am trying to find out if this house is where Casey got the Puerto Rico connection and the NY connection.  I would also like to know when the H. Gonzalez family moved out and moved to PR or if they did at all.  I am going off what the neighbor purportedly told Kathi Belich and a curious person from Websleuths.  They said that the family packed up and went to PR a year ago.  Was it 7 months perhaps?  10 months?  6 months? or exactly one year?

IF this was the smoking gun evidence that Baez was going to use to create reasonable doubt, well he was doing a pretty good job until his plans were spoiled by Hoover.  I think the plan for defense at trial was just completely blown out of the water because LE has time now to investigate.  I wonder why police possibly didn't search this home or if they intend to search it at all?  Something stinks.  Was this where clothes or a phone is located?  I guess we wait and see, but in the meantime back to searching and reading.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 01:31:41 AM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA

Nice work.  I wonder if phonebook.com gets information added too, because that Zenaida matches the whitepages listing.  The reverse listings have different listings, but the Zenaida is on both.



Russ, thank you so much for checking it out.  I did have a thought that my big "find" might be explained by something really basic, like maybe if they are unlisted, then the whitepages locator just automatically gives you a map to the city center??  I don't know.

And it may or may not be significant to have the same number, diff area codes...


I don't know if that is the case.  Several possibilities.  I wonder if there is a Zenaida that used that address and phone numbers to rent furniture or to get a cell phone or something and they were here illegally so they used fictitious information.  Somehow it got listed and when Casey knew the address where the body was she did the same thing and did a reverse address lookup to create the name.  The second possibility is that she added the entries herself and just made the phone number up to create more clues.  Thirdly, someone added those entries afterward to play games or be stupid.  I think it would behoove one of us to contact whitepages.com and inquire when that entry was created.  That would be a good clue in eliminating some of the possibilities.

If created well before, then Casey used this information to create her characters.  If created afterwards, it was created to cover her characters.  If created well after, than we have a funny guy or gal with too much time on their hands.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:35:15 AM
I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Whoa!  I need to step away from the compy and get to bed!  Cowgirl, your comment, especially the words "the house" (sentence bolded by me above) caused me to sit up straight and remember all those texts from Casey to Amy, in reference to:

"THE HOUSE." 
"The homeowner." 
"It's already vacant."
"Went by and saw it."
"Can't wait for you to see the house."
"Can't wait to move in together"
"All it needs is..."
"Making sure everything is all in order." 

It gave me chills for some reason.

Sick, sleepy, stressed monkey here.  "Thinker" not firing on all cylinders, but wow, that was quite a reaction I just had to your comment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:38:42 AM
My mom, sister, and I are going to visit Caylee's memorial site on Thursday.
If any monkeys have any suggestions of what they might like me to take photos/videos....in addition to the crime scene area, please let me know.
You can email me seemeatthebeach@aol.com
We are about 2 hours from where Caylee was found. If anyone else would like to go with us, we have room for 1 more person in my mom's car.



Thank you seemeatthebeach.  I love your avi.

I am glad you are going......  please take some monkey hugs for Caylee if you have room...
 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
Casey was telling Amy she was going to be renting a house and that she could move in with her, and this was sometime either before she planned to off her parents and take their house or after.  I wonder if this is how she got to know "that" house?  She met these folks on their way to moving to Puerto Rico and she did talk to them about renting and moving in.  This would be how she knew the name Gonzalez and Puerto Rico.  That is how she might have found out that they bought the house from someone named Gonzalez in NYC which NYC connection and perhaps a family member.  They might have said something about family in North Carolina and the other states she mentioned.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 01:46:38 AM
I'm pretty sure I read that Kiomarie's house was on Hopespring just a few houses away from the Anthony's

Correctamundo, Oh Great Master Monkey.  I just looked it up!  You are right, 4860 I believe.

BTW, did you get to see the t-shirt debacle by now?  The new myspace post on the official Caylee myspace, dated 1/13, hawking the leftover supplies of Caylee t-shirts, bracelets, etc?  Yikes.... Ghoulish, really.  Sickobilia for sale, come and shop while our merchandise is still in extremely bad taste!  Help us exploit our precious dead granddaughter while supplies last!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

<sigh>  Poor, poor sweet Caylee....   ::MonkeyWaa::

OMG no!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:49:10 AM
<respectfully snipped>

I can hardly bear the thought of children/animals being lost or fearful.  It flat tears me up.  I kind of need to be here 'cause unlike some of the other convicted perps who've knocked off their own offspring, this alleged perp really, really spooks me.  And what spooks me more is the fact that (to my knowledge) no one was onto her cold, cold heart except in retrospect (if then).  Well, you know what I say?  Sorry, too little too late.
<snip>

I can't really offer anything to the scared monkeys as re. research and such.  But its nice to be a new part of a group who won't berate me for my need to know why the alleged wackadoo did what is she is purported to have done.  Imho, it is counterproductive to worry about all the peripheral players unless they have a clearly tangible effect on the outcome of FL case against the prime suspect and how she spends her money while in the grey bar hotel etc.
<snip>

I just want Caylee to be safe and loved again.  I hope there is an afterlife and that she's snuggled in someone's loving embrace.

Right now I'm thinking so much for family values and it taking ...a village to raise a child.  What a bunch of rhetorical bs.  Everyone who knew the baby Caylee has some soul searching to do.    If they don't, well shame on 'em--and shame on any helpless creature that cross their paths in future.

Rant over...well, for now anyway.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Foggy, you have SO much to offer IMO -- you have a loving heart and a gift for expressing beautifully what many feel.

We care about Caylee.  We are indignant and furious on her behalf.  We are tireless in our desire for justice.  We are her family now.  We are the after-the-fact village, in a way... I really like your post, Foggy.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:49:23 AM
FoggyDew, I think this case, in the end, will be clear cut as well. The major facts all point one way only, and that's straight at Casey. I'm waiting to have the forensics bolster that as well. Casey's behavior, Casey's lies, Casey's history with the scene where the remains were found, Casey's demeanor throughout this whole thing, the circumstances of Caylee's absence, the writings of Casey, the bizarre, impossible to collaborate story of a phantom Nanny, it all points directly at Casey. It's a high profile case, but who is responsible is no mystery and there is plenty of evidence, IMO.

I'm glad you are here, Foggy, and I can tell you in all honesty, humbleness, and from experience, there are many stories behind each post, and this is a place that draws compassionate people. Intelligent and sharp posters will find wit and laughter to share with friends, and this place is full of them. You fit right in.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 01:53:55 AM
I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Whoa!  I need to step away from the compy and get to bed!  Cowgirl, your comment, especially the words "the house" (sentence bolded by me above) caused me to sit up straight and remember all those texts from Casey to Amy, in reference to:

"THE HOUSE." 
"The homeowner." 
"It's already vacant."
"Went by and saw it."
"Can't wait for you to see the house."
"Can't wait to move in together"
"All it needs is..."
"Making sure everything is all in order." 

It gave me chills for some reason.

Sick, sleepy, stressed monkey here.  "Thinker" not firing on all cylinders, but wow, that was quite a reaction I just had to your comment.


Yes!  I knew I had another possibility I wanted to go into that post!  Short term memory problems on my end apparently!  It could have been a way to get some money from her friend...  "I have everything ready, we just need to get that deposit money down..." or maybe she was actually considering leasing the home for real, had the name of the owners that moved to PR.  She may have even been communicating with the person that owned the home.  Who knows??  But she had been talking about getting a house, even though, she said it was her parents house that she was going to be getting because of a divorce between CA and GA.  She could have been plotting another scam on a friend that started before Caylee came up "missing."  She did blatantly steal from Amy eventually.  She felt like she should have been getting that money, so she went after it a different way by stealing her checkbook.  (She also has some text message exchanges with Amy where it sounds like Amy is looking for something, but all KC's responses were overly concerned, as in, fake.)  So maybe KC was scamming Amy with a vacant house and moving in, etc.  I mean, could we really put something like that past KC?

Before the short term memory gets away from me again, I want to add this (but truthfully, I saw the first line of this posted on the comments section of someone's blog and it sent me on a tangent):

It was a fluke that CA was able to find KC.  KC could have been putting together this big elaborate scheme (creating fake white page entries, studying where she might dispose of a body, staging a kidnapping in a way that she could call the police and make a big deal of it, maybe with even having herself appear to have been abducted or beaten), but with less holes if she'd had more time.  But CA spoiled her plans by finding Amy's number.  And unless Amy is a pot stirrer, she may have been so willing to help CA find KC because KC had already been scamming her somehow or stole something and she just found out about it.  If someone I'd never spoken to called me and was in this desperate dramatic life event and wanted me to help find someone, etc, etc, I wouldn't do it unless I was probably already mad at the person.  Matter of fact, this has happened to me in the past (very similar) and the only reason I drew the map for how to find this person was because the person owed me money and had done some really terrible things to me and my roommate. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 01:55:21 AM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA

Nice work.  I wonder if phonebook.com gets information added too, because that Zenaida matches the whitepages listing.  The reverse listings have different listings, but the Zenaida is on both.



Russ, thank you so much for checking it out.  I did have a thought that my big "find" might be explained by something really basic, like maybe if they are unlisted, then the whitepages locator just automatically gives you a map to the city center??  I don't know.

And it may or may not be significant to have the same number, diff area codes...


I don't know if that is the case.  Several possibilities.  I wonder if there is a Zenaida that used that address and phone numbers to rent furniture or to get a cell phone or something and they were here illegally so they used fictitious information.  Somehow it got listed and when Casey knew the address where the body was she did the same thing and did a reverse address lookup to create the name.  The second possibility is that she added the entries herself and just made the phone number up to create more clues.  Thirdly, someone added those entries afterward to play games or be stupid.  I think it would behoove one of us to contact whitepages.com and inquire when that entry was created.  That would be a good clue in eliminating some of the possibilities.

If created well before, then Casey used this information to create her characters.  If created afterwards, it was created to cover her characters.  If created well after, than we have a funny guy or gal with too much time on their hands.

Russ =  SMART monkey!   ::MonkeyDance::

Sorry to repost th is whole long monstrosity... really not in good shape, and need to finish up and get to bed!  Work in the morning is gonna come mighty early for this little monkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 02:00:11 AM
Casey was telling Amy she was going to be renting a house and that she could move in with her, and this was sometime either before she planned to off her parents and take their house or after.  I wonder if this is how she got to know "that" house?  She met these folks on their way to moving to Puerto Rico and she did talk to them about renting and moving in.  This would be how she knew the name Gonzalez and Puerto Rico.  That is how she might have found out that they bought the house from someone named Gonzalez in NYC which NYC connection and perhaps a family member.  They might have said something about family in North Carolina and the other states she mentioned.   

If I thought Casey were a more capable criminal, I might even be tempted to speculate that she had done away with the family in that house so she could have it!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::
But don't think she's that "good."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
Casey was telling Amy she was going to be renting a house and that she could move in with her, and this was sometime either before she planned to off her parents and take their house or after.  I wonder if this is how she got to know "that" house?  She met these folks on their way to moving to Puerto Rico and she did talk to them about renting and moving in.  This would be how she knew the name Gonzalez and Puerto Rico.  That is how she might have found out that they bought the house from someone named Gonzalez in NYC which NYC connection and perhaps a family member.  They might have said something about family in North Carolina and the other states she mentioned.   

If I thought Casey were a more capable criminal, I might even be tempted to speculate that she had done away with the family in that house so she could have it!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::
But don't think she's that "good."


Desdemona and Russ, I like you guys!  You make me feel SMRT and less crazy for my wild speculations. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 02:05:43 AM
Well, that is one piece of the puzzle I would like to know the truth about. Casey had been "going to work" for a long time. Either she was doubling back home after everyone left, or she was going to Lee's, or she was going somewhere that hasn't come out yet. None of her friends have stepped up and said she was hiding out at their place, and no one has come forward and said they kept Caylee on a regular basis, so something's up with that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 14, 2009, 02:07:21 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

I got a feeling that "abandoned house" holds many clues here.  Wasnt one of the places that KC says to look is PR??  Didnt the family in that abandoned house move back to PR?  HMMMMM????  I think this place holds some of her truth in a backwards sorta way.  ::MonkeyEek::

Wouldn't the neighbors who know that the house has been abandoned for a year also know if Casey had been spending time there?  I would think so. 


I think the same thing.  There has been speculation that she was using that house abandoned to leave Caylee there or going there during the day.  I just don't think that the neighbors of that house would not have noticed the amount of coverage this case has gotten and realized that.

I don't think she left her there really or anything like that, I just don't doubt that KC may have scoped out the house for any number of reasons.  Maybe she knew the people that lived there before they left or knew someone who lived next door like it was mentioned above...  Kio...  There's just no telling.  I would think CA and GA would have KNOWN that KC didn't really have a job.  You would think they would KNOW who Caylee's dad was without doubt.  If Kio mentioned the wooded areas around there as a hang out and a possible place to "discard" Caylee (NG's words, not mine) and if you look at that map, there appears to be a wooded area that backs up to the house.  As in, a short cut from KC's house without having to walk all the way up the street and just going through those woods.  Those things could explain why a neighbor hasn't come forward.  Or the neighbors could be undocumented or any number of other reasons they would not want to deal with law enforcement.  Let's not forget how any person that is unfortunate enough to have anything to do with this case gets vilified by the media, LE, the Anthonys, and some of us crazy bloggers that get a whiff of something and just run with it.

In other words, I'm not positing a theory as to why she was there or what the connection is, but that it is too odd for there not to be some kind of connection.  I enjoy the theories, though.  Most of them are bright and creative.  IF/WHEN the truth ever comes out, I think we will all be surprised regardless!


I agree. 

I spent my life in the sticks.  When I was a kid we spent every waking moment traipsing through them. 

I got to thinking about those days while wondering why folks (aka witnesses) remark on KC sneakin' around the trees/underbrush or hovering so close to home all the time.  My guess is that if she stashed the body it was accomplished by sense memory of the lay of the land--maybe the car was just a temp place to hold body and not really her transportation to interrment site.

Of course my fondest wish is that witnesses have come forward and are laying low.

I don't know what LE did to truly comb that area.  If I'd been there after the remains were recovered, I'd have put police tape over a half mile radius (at least  ::MonkeyConfused::) and searched it w/a fine tooth comb. 

The location of the body so close to the main drag through the 'hood doesn't mean a whole lot to me given the flooding not long after I believe baby was treated as so much litter.  Before veg took hold of bag and anchored it, I can see a situation where rising water and subsequent draining of it away could well have moved a bag--esp. if the bag was originally well sealed / gasses given off via decomp kept it inflated for a time. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 02:08:54 AM
Casey was telling Amy she was going to be renting a house and that she could move in with her, and this was sometime either before she planned to off her parents and take their house or after.  I wonder if this is how she got to know "that" house?  She met these folks on their way to moving to Puerto Rico and she did talk to them about renting and moving in.  This would be how she knew the name Gonzalez and Puerto Rico.  That is how she might have found out that they bought the house from someone named Gonzalez in NYC which NYC connection and perhaps a family member.  They might have said something about family in North Carolina and the other states she mentioned.   

If I thought Casey were a more capable criminal, I might even be tempted to speculate that she had done away with the family in that house so she could have it!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::
But don't think she's that "good."


Desdemona and Russ, I like you guys!  You make me feel SMRT and less crazy for my wild speculations. 

Ya know, I always figure that IF you're aiming in the right direction, the shotgun approach can eventually find the right marks as well as the rifle approach.  Even better sometimes, because creative brainstorming is a valuable tool.... trouble is, this particular brain is just kinda drizzling at this late hour!  lol
 ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Desdemona on January 14, 2009, 02:13:21 AM
FoggyDew, I think this case, in the end, will be clear cut as well. The major facts all point one way only, and that's straight at Casey. I'm waiting to have the forensics bolster that as well. Casey's behavior, Casey's lies, Casey's history with the scene where the remains were found, Casey's demeanor throughout this whole thing, the circumstances of Caylee's absence, the writings of Casey, the bizarre, impossible to collaborate story of a phantom Nanny, it all points directly at Casey. It's a high profile case, but who is responsible is no mystery and there is plenty of evidence, IMO.

I'm glad you are here, Foggy, and I can tell you in all honesty, humbleness, and from experience, there are many stories behind each post, and this is a place that draws compassionate people. Intelligent and sharp posters will find wit and laughter to share with friends, and this place is full of them. You fit right in.   ::MonkeyWink::

Lovely post as usual CBB.  Casey. Casey. Casey.  You are so right about that.

I love your description of SM.  I'm new, and maybe going a bit overboard sometimes, but people monkeys are so nice and kind and encouraging...

Goodnight, CBB and all monkeys/guests..... and God bless sweet Caylee.
 :smt060



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 14, 2009, 03:20:32 AM
Well, that is one piece of the puzzle I would like to know the truth about. Casey had been "going to work" for a long time. Either she was doubling back home after everyone left, or she was going to Lee's, or she was going somewhere that hasn't come out yet. None of her friends have stepped up and said she was hiding out at their place, and no one has come forward and said they kept Caylee on a regular basis, so something's up with that.


When you said folks have a story behind their compassion (my words/interpretation of yours) nothin' could be more true.  I know someone who pulled off the pretense of going to something every day to remain out of sight/out of mind.  It only works on folks who want to put their heads in the sand of course. 

In the instance of which I'm aware, individual moved back home from out of state--marriage over, no job though around 40 years old w/a law and acct degree, CPA and all that rot.  That loser would leave parents home every day and the landlords (so to speak) practiced that out of sight/out of mind deal.

Oh geez, I had a point but its gone out the window for now.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh ok, just remembered something.  Sorry if I've missed it, but has anyone in the vicinity of the cell phone pings checked for hot spots or whatever they are called that would avail KC wireless connection to net?  Did she have a laptop?  If not, I should think she wouldn't have net access on a reg basis unless she was hanging at the local library to surf or had access to other computers.  Were there any other hard drives examined other'n than the home computer?

Thank you so much for your kind words and welcome./color] 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 14, 2009, 04:47:16 AM
Good Night Monkeys...

All this computer learning dun wore me out...

See you in the morning for coffee (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Be good...and stay on topic...  ::MonkeyCool::



Good Morning SS (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)    are you up yet ?   Someone told me you were trying to track me down ?   

I think the meter reader is either honest - or has been honestly used by someone and just doesn't realize it yet, if that makes sense ... ?




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 04:54:20 AM
I am up to page 23, but I want to add my two cents worth re Kronk.
Thanks everyone who filled us out of countrians  ::MonkeyHaHa::
who didnt get to see GMA.  From reading the reports in here of the interview,  sounds like he is a down to earth man.  Sounds like the defense pulling up his past and EXAGGERATING it to help the scummy, baby killer.  The snake pic, well, thats the media exaggerating to make you all watch.  So what if he was paid for the picture.  He is the one who found Caylee.  He has to forgo public scrutiny now, and IMO, this isnt blood money.  I also think he deserves the reward.  What I call Blood Money is the Anthonys (the whole sorry arsed lot of them), the whole defense, and the likes of Joy Wray and wanda weary, all after a buck or five minutes of fame .  Yet, they all lied and sabbotaged the whole caylee search.  God bless Tim, I had never heard of ES or Tim until this case, and all I can say is he is one top man.  Good on him for not taking the defense crapola and giving them confidential details of the search.  The defense are just clutching at straws, and them straws keep getting smaller and smaller IMO.  Casey, YOU ARE GOING DOWN  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PookyBear on January 14, 2009, 04:58:21 AM
Good morning early Monkeys -- My Pooky Bear is having surgery on her ears this morning and I would appreciate some prayers for her. 

FoggyDew -- Casey used a laptop which was owned by Cindy -- not sure whether she had a wireless card in it or not.  The home computer tower was taken and examined and I think Ricardo Morales had his computer taken as well because Casey used his computer while they dated.  I don't know of any others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 05:08:03 AM
Good morning early Monkeys -- My Pooky Bear is having surgery on her ears this morning and I would appreciate some prayers for her. 

 Aww pooky, surgery is real worrying for moms when it involves their precious ones.  I am praying for you both.  Big hugs, wish i was there to be with you in person.  My son had his adnoids out when he was four, and he was up playing four hours after the surgery.  Still, i was a worried mess tho, and bawled my eyes out when they wheeled him into surgery, so I know its gonna hurt you more than your girl.
Love you pooky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 05:20:08 AM
pooks, I added you to the monkey prayer request board
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=147.msg625861#msg625861


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: PookyBear on January 14, 2009, 05:20:54 AM
Good morning early Monkeys -- My Pooky Bear is having surgery on her ears this morning and I would appreciate some prayers for her. 

 Aww pooky, surgery is real worrying for moms when it involves their precious ones.  I am praying for you both.  Big hugs, wish i was there to be with you in person.  My son had his adnoids out when he was four, and he was up playing four hours after the surgery.  Still, i was a worried mess tho, and bawled my eyes out when they wheeled him into surgery, so I know its gonna hurt you more than your girl.
Love you pooky.

Thank you Lucinda -- I needed your kind words.  I have tears in my eyes.  Hugs back to you.  We are off to the hospital in a few minutes.  Talk to you tomorrow?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 05:25:33 AM
good luck matey, I will be on same time tomorrow to see how your darling girl went.  Hugs, I know its hard, she will be fine, just remember they do these ops all the time.  Love you hun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scarrlett on January 14, 2009, 07:18:50 AM
Good morning early Monkeys -- My Pooky Bear is having surgery on her ears this morning and I would appreciate some prayers for her. 

 Aww pooky, surgery is real worrying for moms when it involves their precious ones.  I am praying for you both.  Big hugs, wish i was there to be with you in person.  My son had his adnoids out when he was four, and he was up playing four hours after the surgery.  Still, i was a worried mess tho, and bawled my eyes out when they wheeled him into surgery, so I know its gonna hurt you more than your girl.
Love you pooky.

Thank you Lucinda -- I needed your kind words.  I have tears in my eyes.  Hugs back to you.  We are off to the hospital in a few minutes.  Talk to you tomorrow?

Oh POOKY.....My prayers go out to your little one as well.

From Australia to the Catskills...We got you covered with positive air waves just for you.

 Jump in Monkeys and Good Morning Lucinda. Nice to see you. It is very cold here. Could use some warmth in those air waves!! ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 07:39:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::

Here's a little snack.(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/crbs0010693.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 07:41:51 AM
how ya going Scarrlett
it was so hot here yesterday, couldnt do a thing.  One thing I do know about heat and USA and Aus.  Well, the south, georgia, hot as hades there in summer, however, it is a real still heat, very humid. 
Where i am in Aus, it is a stinking red hot sun, strong gale forced north winds, and you cant even go outside without being electrocuted from static every time you go to your car  ::MonkeyHaHa::
It is so dry and hot, your whole internal moisture mechanism, including your sinus, dries right out, even your poohs come out like a dried out pine cone  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Its hot, its worse than what I experienced in georgia usa this summer.  Thats nothing to what our summers are about.  Maybe in the us desert would be like aussie summers.  i hate em, and I live by the beach.  Go the beach here, has to be after 8pm or before 8 am.  Or you get third degree burns from the sun and wind. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 07:43:30 AM
Psychic on phone with Casey speaks
Last Edited: Wednesday, 14 Jan 2009, 5:02 AM EST
Created: Tuesday, 13 Jan 2009, 9:29 PM EST

<snipped>
Investigators won’t confirm or reveal who Casey is talking to, but they do admit they are trying to figure out exactly what led Casey and another PI, James Hoover to the area.

VIDEO: --Psyhic who was talking to PI speaks out
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

VIDEO: --Equusearch founder heads to Orlando to fight Jose Baez
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

Article:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=3.2.1
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 07:44:53 AM
Deputy's action under scrutiny in Casey Anthony case
Bianca Prieto and Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writers
January 14, 2009

<snipped>
An Orange County deputy who was criticized for the way he handled an August tip about Caylee Marie Anthony's remains was previously accused of failing to properly investigate incidents, a report released Tuesday shows.

Deputy Sheriff Richard C. was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening telephone call in March 2007, but that allegation was deemed unfounded, the sheriff's report showed. The outcome of a similar complaint against him in December 2006 was not available Tuesday.

The Sheriff's Office is conducting an internal investigation into what happened in August after a meter reader reported something suspicious in woods near the home Caylee shared with her mother and grandparents.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 07:44:54 AM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::    ::MonkeyLaugh::

OK, WHO IS ON THE RUN..................

Officials: Monkey On the Loose In Tampa Bay
Wednesday, January 14, 2009

CLEARWATER, Fla. -- A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.

Wildlife officials say the Rhesus monkey isn't dangerous, but the species is known to throw feces when mad.

Authorities have been trying to capture the primate since Tuesday afternoon. It managed to evade a bucket truck and a tranquilizer dart.

Gary Morse with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the adult male is thought to have escaped from an unlicensed source. It was last seen in Clearwater


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 07:45:48 AM
::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::    ::MonkeyLaugh::

OK, WHO IS ON THE RUN..................

Officials: Monkey On the Loose In Tampa Bay
Wednesday, January 14, 2009

CLEARWATER, Fla. -- A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.

Wildlife officials say the Rhesus monkey isn't dangerous, but the species is known to throw feces when mad.

Authorities have been trying to capture the primate since Tuesday afternoon. It managed to evade a bucket truck and a tranquilizer dart.

Gary Morse with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the adult male is thought to have escaped from an unlicensed source. It was last seen in Clearwater


 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 07:48:05 AM
Nancy Grace Transcript
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 07:55:35 AM
Psychic on phone with Casey speaks
Last Edited: Wednesday, 14 Jan 2009, 5:02 AM EST
Created: Tuesday, 13 Jan 2009, 9:29 PM EST

<snipped>
Investigators won’t confirm or reveal who Casey is talking to, but they do admit they are trying to figure out exactly what led Casey and another PI, James Hoover to the area.

VIDEO: --Psyhic who was talking to PI speaks out
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

VIDEO: --Equusearch founder heads to Orlando to fight Jose Baez
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

Article:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=3.2.1
__________________

hi trim
how are you feeling now?  I cant view videos, but Im glad to see tim fighting bozo.  As for the rest of the circus, one word, (oops three)  Caseys going down  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Scarrlett on January 14, 2009, 08:00:16 AM
 Lord Lucinda, That sounds horrid. How long is the summer season? Sounds like a place Casey should be. For days and days and years and years..... Sorry that's mean.

Morning Trimm, Thanks for the links. Hope you AND Boo are feeling better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 08:03:22 AM
Lord Lucinda, That sounds horrid. How long is the summer season? Sounds like a place Casey should be. For days and days and years and years..... Sorry that's mean.

Morning Trimm, Thanks for the links. Hope you AND Boo are feeling better.

until the end of march.  Altho, being by the sea, we do get some relief, so it wont be constant.  Just is usually thru the whole month of jan.  thanks for answering me, some times i feel invisible  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 08:05:34 AM
Hey, Belich never went to the side of the house that Dom Casey cut the bags open on.  They are still there.

Seriously?  Where did that info come from?    ::MonkeyConfused::

Just reading the group and the person that found the house and brought Kathi there with her/him.  She has posted video and stills it appears someone noticed the bag, but I don't see the flowerbed he was digging in unless there is a wrong angle.

Over here - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77931&page=31

They did a mighty fine job on this one with all the restrictions put upon them.


Thanks for posting this Russ.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:06:40 AM
I'm behind about 20 pages..  I crashed before NG was over,.. but from what I heard out of the mouth of that so-called psychic. OMG. That woman is screwy!!  Seriously. Did you listen to her answers? The way she replied to things? Not only unprofessional, but unbelievable.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:08:30 AM
::MonkeyDance:: GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!!  ::MonkeyDance::

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Enjoy!!!! (http://th173.photobucket.com/albums/w73/iudit/th_Monkey_with_coffee.gif)


I jumped ahead 10 pages to get here, so if there's anything new since about 10pm last night, let me know!!

::MonkeyDance:: Thanks Monkeys!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:11:41 AM
thanks, QM. I could use a big steaming glass full!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:14:33 AM
thanks, QM. I could use a big steaming glass full!

You're welcome am! How about the whole pot:

(http://th219.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/mommishka/th_1.gif)

That should take care of you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 08:15:04 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 08:15:23 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/5mecs9.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:15:46 AM
thanks, QM. I could use a big steaming glass full!

You're welcome am! How about the whole pot:

(http://th219.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/mommishka/th_1.gif)

That should take care of you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

MMMMMMMMMM!  I'd run out and get a real one from around the corner (we have a TM just down the street), but no $$  ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: theboyzmom on January 14, 2009, 08:16:38 AM
I know that someone posted a link to watch NG but I can not remember it - can i get it again - I fell asleep before the crazy lady was on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 08:19:18 AM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html


Is someone trying to throw this officer under the bus?  It sure appears like LP is trying to drag him out.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/b8s12b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:21:52 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 

Great advice Lucinda & you're right about the defense!!

>>>>>trying to keep my monkey nickers straight

(http://th47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Stormy7997/myspace/th_monkeypants.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:22:24 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 

Morning Lucinda, you are never invisable! I always read your posts in the morning. I'm only here a few minutes before I duck out but just wanted to say good morning!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:24:39 AM
thanks, QM. I could use a big steaming glass full!

You're welcome am! How about the whole pot:

(http://th219.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/mommishka/th_1.gif)

That should take care of you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

MMMMMMMMMM!  I'd run out and get a real one from around the corner (we have a TM just down the street), but no $$  ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Oh, lucky you am. There are none around where I live. I went to Buffalo over the summer and there was a TM for about every couple miles we drove! We went into one of them, it was pretty cool, much "fancier" than DD (I love DD coffee btw).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 08:26:33 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 08:27:53 AM
I'm behind about 20 pages..  I crashed before NG was over,.. but from what I heard out of the mouth of that so-called psychic. OMG. That woman is screwy!!  Seriously. Did you listen to her answers? The way she replied to things? Not only unprofessional, but unbelievable.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I just read NG transcripts. All I have to say is as big a company as Verizon is I am surprised she is supposedly having trouble getting her telephone records.

Over the years I have used many cell companies and always had my hands on my cell records. I changed about 5 years ago to VirginMobile prepay and I can go on the website and pull up all activity on the cells. The only calls that don't show are the ones within the last few hours and they post later. I am havng a hard time with her cell phone proof and personally I would not have done any interviews until I had hardcopies of the calls. It really won't be that hard for LE to prove who he was talking to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 08:28:20 AM
Good morning monkey friends!
Here is the link for the psychic and dad's website..its a laugher

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: milardi on January 14, 2009, 08:28:22 AM
Good Morning to all!

I have a very bad feeling about the deputy that responded to Kronk on the 11th. I think this is the reason we haven't seen anything about the Ant's and prosecution for obstruction. Unless it is proven that a link to them was on the phone or got the information to D. Casey.
If that can't be proven then the Ant's are free and clear of fraud(taking donations when they knew the baby was deceased) also LE would be in trouble from a liability standpoint if they honestly had the opportunity to find the body and did not take advantage of it. I think the Ant's would sue and that is probably the reason LE hasn't pushed obstruction ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: BooMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:29:09 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

No Steel, that is excellent!! I'm glad you said something. They are just trying to get a time line on this or where it might have originated. Thanks for saying something!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:31:06 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 

Morning Lucinda, you are never invisable! I always read your posts in the morning. I'm only here a few minutes before I duck out but just wanted to say good morning!!


Good Morning
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::MonkeyDance:: Good  ::MonkeyDance::  Morning   ::MonkeyDance::  BOO  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 08:31:52 AM
Boo. please dress warmly so you dont relapse...
Us sickies must stick together  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luvmyboys on January 14, 2009, 08:31:53 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!<br /><br />That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/>” <br /><br />For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!<br /><br />News website - <a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm5hdGlvbmFsZW5xdWlyZXIuY29tL2Nhc2V5X2FudGhvbnlfYW5vdGhlcl9iYWJ5L2NyaW1lLzYzNDY4" target="_blank">http://www. nationalenquirer. com/casey_anthony_another_baby/crime/63468</a>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: theboyzmom on January 14, 2009, 08:32:50 AM
how ya going Scarrlett
it was so hot here yesterday, couldnt do a thing.  One thing I do know about heat and USA and Aus.  Well, the south, georgia, hot as hades there in summer, however, it is a real still heat, very humid. 
Where i am in Aus, it is a stinking red hot sun, strong gale forced north winds, and you cant even go outside without being electrocuted from static every time you go to your car  ::MonkeyHaHa::
It is so dry and hot, your whole internal moisture mechanism, including your sinus, dries right out, even your poohs come out like a dried out pine cone  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Its hot, its worse than what I experienced in georgia usa this summer.  Thats nothing to what our summers are about.  Maybe in the us desert would be like aussie summers.  i hate em, and I live by the beach.  Go the beach here, has to be after 8pm or before 8 am.  Or you get third degree burns from the sun and wind. 

Man that sounds better than here - we finally got up to 0 deg F - which is like is -18 cel - so it is COLD here!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 08:33:46 AM
Quote
If defense attorneys can convince a jury that evidence was tainted, altered or planted, it could go a long way toward destroying some of prosecutors' best evidence.

"The cop was like, I would say, he was kind of rude to me. I'm trying to help out and I'm catching all this," Kronk told GMA's Robin Roberts.

Statements like that have WFTV's legal analyst believing Roy Kronk's interview is a score for Casey's defense team.

"If you listen closely, I'm sure you can hear the clapping and the joy coming from Mr. Baez's office," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said after reviewing the interview.
Legal Analyst: Kronk GMA Interview Is Defense Victory
 (http://www.wftv.com/news/18472915/detail.html)

Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 08:35:47 AM
WELCOME Iluvmyboys  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 08:36:02 AM
Hey Scarlett!
Hey Lucinda!

I see you guys,I was reading over some of the post from last night. 
Feeling some better.Boo feels pretty bad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 08:37:54 AM
Hello to our Aussie Monkeys!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
Iluvmyboys
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Wish I could help with what went wrong with your post, but I don't know :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 08:45:09 AM
I know that someone posted a link to watch NG but I can not remember it - can i get it again - I fell asleep before the crazy lady was on!


Is this it Boyzmom?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/torbenmiller


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 08:47:25 AM
Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

 (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18477079/detail.html)
Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009
 
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orange County sheriff's deputy who checked on an August tip made by the meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony in the same area in December was identified Tuesday by Local 6 News.

Orange County sheriff's Deputy Richard Cain, 40, closed the door of his home when he was confronted by Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio, who attempted to ask him questions about the incident.

Cain was hired by Orange County in 2006 and was assigned to patrol the area where Caylee's remains were found. An administrative review is under way to determine if Cain violated any policies when he went to wooded area to check on the tip, which was phoned in by Orange County utility worker Roy Kronk.

In a Tuesday interview on "Good Morning America," Kronk said Cain was "kind of rude."

"There was water there in August, and I guess the deputy didn't want to go out in the water to look in the bag," said Kronk, who phoned in tips about a suspicious bag three consecutive days in August.

After the third call was placed, Cain met Kronk near the wooded area, which is located near the home of George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of Caylee, who lived at the home with her mother, Casey Anthony.

"The officer showed up, he pulls out a metal baton (and) went to the water's edge. I pointed in the area where (the bag) was at, (and) he swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,'" Kronk said on the national TV show.

In a sheriff's report, Cain wrote that he saw "trash only" while checking on Kronk's tip.

Cain's Professional Standards History report shows that there was a complaint filed against him in 2006 for failing to "properly investigate an incident," Local 6 News reported. The report does not say if Cain had been disciplined for the incident.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 14, 2009, 08:49:27 AM
I'm behind about 20 pages..  I crashed before NG was over,.. but from what I heard out of the mouth of that so-called psychic. OMG. That woman is screwy!!  Seriously. Did you listen to her answers? The way she replied to things? Not only unprofessional, but unbelievable.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I just read NG transcripts. All I have to say is as big a company as Verizon is I am surprised she is supposedly having trouble getting her telephone records.

Over the years I have used many cell companies and always had my hands on my cell records. I changed about 5 years ago to VirginMobile prepay and I can go on the website and pull up all activity on the cells. The only calls that don't show are the ones within the last few hours and they post later. I am havng a hard time with her cell phone proof and personally I would not have done any interviews until I had hardcopies of the calls. It really won't be that hard for LE to prove who he was talking to.

I have Verizon or rather my husband has (we are not together but still married).  A few years ago I called to get detailed calls for my phone number.  They sent me detailed accounts for both my and my husband's and the account is not even in my name.  go figure! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
I know that someone posted a link to watch NG but I can not remember it - can i get it again - I fell asleep before the crazy lady was on!

This has them on YouTube.I think this is what you were looking for.  ::MonkeyCool::
veilanna's channel on YouTube.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: perriwinkle on January 14, 2009, 08:51:06 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Oh YEAH!  Now it s all becoming clear again...  As mud!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I remember all this now.  Clearly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 14, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
Good Morning Everyone,

Ok, follow this train of thought as an indulgence to me. :)  


What IF the psychic is legit but not on the phone at the time he makes the statement that Kathi B. hears. "IT should be right here" says D. Casey when he is at a set of pavers, perhaps not realizing there may be more than one set. She is telling NG that she directed him. But why would D. Casey say, “IT should be right here?” Seems like the psychic would be the one to say that to him. This tells me D. Casey was on the phone with someone else, George, Lee, Cindy. One of them.  More likely to be Cindy or Lee passing on information on the pavers passed on to them by the psychic. I think they could not get the clues from Casey and were growing more frustrated day by day, so they hire a psychic, someone who had recommended her. 

D. Casey worked for the Anthonys. He took his direction from them. HE WAS LOOKING IN THE DIRT. This tells me that he was looking for a body.   Does it seem plausible that it was this that happened? As I heard LP speak about the pavers on NG last night, it made me think.

The Anthonys either knew or highly suspected Caylee was deceased. Perhaps D. Casey brought this information over when he left Jose's employment. Maybe the Anthony's didn't know where the body was. They hire this psychic to help them find Caylee's body. She might have seen the body, garbage bag, pavers, wooded area, house, etc.  So why didn’t anyone call the detectives?

How likely is it that D. Casey would just 'follow' a psychic that he had never met? They had over 5 thousand tips or leads as Cindy likes to state, most of these were from psychics. If the man just followed the psychic tips, he would be busy until 2065. So, why this psychic? Could it be the Anthonys relaying the psychic's tips to him? Gale St. John had already suspected this area, so why not listen to her? Gale St. John is too much of a media personality, too well known. Cindy wouldn’t have any control once it surfaced in the media. Or, when GSJ came up with her theory, maybe more time was needed for nature to wipe away the evidence.

The Anthonys have said that they were using the PI to find a live or dead Caylee. But this was not the case for the several times TM came around. Why not? They were insistent on all of these fake sightings and leads. Why did they act like TM was a pariah? If TM found the body, then it would surely point back to Casey.

The day the body is found, they ask for Immunity. Why? George is smart enough to know what is going to happen next. Lee sends Mallory to the house to do SOMETHING. What does she do while she is there?  

Everyone seems to believe Kronk but I have my doubts. He said he had a hunch. He had a hunch or needed a potty break?  He had a hunch on 4 different occasions? His story doesn’t add up. BUT if an average Joe finds something suspicious then it’s deemed a break in the case. If Cindy says she has information from a ‘Psychic’ the detectives may suspect her as obstructing justice.

Just yesterday the email between Lois and Cindy surfaced. Cindy stands behind Casey stating she is innocent. No she doesn’t, she knows Casey is guilty. But Cindy liked having the control over Casey and Caylee. Cindy had always rescued Casey from all of her sins. Knowing Caylee was already dead and nothing she could do, she focuses on Casey. Now she is going to save her daughter from death or even a jail sentence at all. Plus, Cindy feels a substantial amount of guilt over the fight, not fighting for custody, not making Casey accountable for all of these things. What else would help absolve her guilt?  

Could this be plausible?  













Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 08:53:28 AM
Any monkey want to fess-up? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

Feces-tossing monkey on the loose in Tampa area
ASSOCIATED PRESS • January 14, 2009

 Buzz up! CLEARWATER — A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.


 Wildlife officials say the rhesus monkey isn’t dangerous but the species is known to throw feces when mad.

Authorities have been trying to capture the primate since Tuesday afternoon. It managed to evade a bucket truck and tranquilizer dart.

Gary Morse with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the adult male is thought to have escaped from an unlicensed source. It was last seen in Clearwater.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
I am thinking about the statement from Conway about they are thinking about cremation and remembering all the different info given out about the remains over this time.
You had the remains turned over to the funeral home Dec 23. You have had this long drawn out, story always changing about the second autopsy to be done and then it hasn't be done weeks later, they are still finishing up on it, etc. Then there is a rumor that her remains were cremated Dec 29.
You have this being Jan 14th and no date set for memorial or private funeral. You don't need remains for a memorial. You don't really need money for that if you can have it out in the open somewhere or a place is donated to have it.

I have a what if  now....What if they did the autopsy by Dec 29 and then cremated the remains to make sure there is no way to re-examine? I have confidence in Dr G to have thoroughly done the examination though but this family is in no hurry to try to heal for any reason. If they are so worried about the safety of the remains then why does it appear that it would be so easy for someone to go in the "Jack in the Box" location and get to them? Maybe her remains have never been at that location?

I always felt like the funeral or memorial was a time to start healing for me.

Sorry..no disrespect on the "Jack in the Box" comment but it just looks like a weird place to have a funeral home. I would find no comfort in going there for a service or viewing. I know years ago I saw on TV a funeral home that had a drive-thru to view bodies and I just thought that was sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kimmy53 on January 14, 2009, 08:55:54 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Welcome to the new monkeys!

Prayers for PookyBear's little one!

Working and Lurking - as usual  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 08:56:33 AM
I'm about 20 pages behind but wanted to jump in here and say GOOD MORNING - and grab a cup of QM's coffee.
Never had that brand of coffee - what is it?   Is that a coffee shop brand like starbucks - or is it like 7/ll coffee?

Also, Welcome Luvmyboys!     ::MonkeyDance::

I'll catch up with you guys in about an hour  -  back to reading.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 08:57:58 AM
Quote of the week from Lee's attorney Mr Luka
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 08:59:37 AM

Feces-tossing monkey on the loose in Tampa area
ASSOCIATED PRESS • January 14, 2009

 Buzz up! CLEARWATER — A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.


CC..    it's not polite to brag.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:00:35 AM
I'm about 20 pages behind but wanted to jump in here and say GOOD MORNING - and grab a cup of QM's coffee.
Never had that brand of coffee - what is it?   Is that a coffee shop brand like starbucks - or is it like 7/ll coffee?

Also, Welcome Luvmyboys!     ::MonkeyDance::

I'll catch up with you guys in about an hour  -  back to reading.     

http://www.timhortons.com/en/index.html

Yum! I enjoy their flavored coffee- the English Toffee. MMMM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
Good Morning to all!

I have a very bad feeling about the deputy that responded to Kronk on the 11th. I think this is the reason we haven't seen anything about the Ant's and prosecution for obstruction. Unless it is proven that a link to them was on the phone or got the information to D. Casey.
If that can't be proven then the Ant's are free and clear of fraud(taking donations when they knew the baby was deceased) also LE would be in trouble from a liability standpoint if they honestly had the opportunity to find the body and did not take advantage of it. I think the Ant's would sue and that is probably the reason LE hasn't pushed obstruction ::MonkeyNoNo::
DC on video and who he was talking to has nothing to do with why the A's were asking for immunity. LE is just sitting back and letting everything unfold..there is no hurry. I don't think they will get immunity because the more that comes out the worse the case looks for the A's and Casey. This case was stronger than most thought before the body was found to charge her with 1st degree murder and now....the puzzle pieces are forming a more complete picture and there are alot of players.

When JB said there would be names we had never heard, etc he was right. Look at all the new players that have come up in the last month.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 09:02:31 AM
Quote of the week from Lee's attorney Mr Luka
"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw."
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Stop stop stop.You're killing me.   ::MonkeyDance:: I laugh every time I see that.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:06:37 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!<br /><br />That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/>” <br /><br />For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!<br /><br />News website - <a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm5hdGlvbmFsZW5xdWlyZXIuY29tL2Nhc2V5X2FudGhvbnlfYW5vdGhlcl9iYWJ5L2NyaW1lLzYzNDY4" target="_blank">http://www. nationalenquirer. com/casey_anthony_another_baby/crime/63468</a>


The post is using another type of html, where a < is used rather than ]'s but I can kind of make out what is there.  So Casey is wanting a new baby and wants to be pregnant.  That does not surprise me as I speculated she wants Baez's baby.  lol.  I hadn't heard any of this reported though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:06:37 AM
Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

 (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18477079/detail.html)
Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009
 
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orange County sheriff's deputy who checked on an August tip made by the meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony in the same area in December was identified Tuesday by Local 6 News.

Orange County sheriff's Deputy Richard Cain, 40, closed the door of his home when he was confronted by Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio, who attempted to ask him questions about the incident.

Cain was hired by Orange County in 2006 and was assigned to patrol the area where Caylee's remains were found. An administrative review is under way to determine if Cain violated any policies when he went to wooded area to check on the tip, which was phoned in by Orange County utility worker Roy Kronk.

In a Tuesday interview on "Good Morning America," Kronk said Cain was "kind of rude."

"There was water there in August, and I guess the deputy didn't want to go out in the water to look in the bag," said Kronk, who phoned in tips about a suspicious bag three consecutive days in August.

After the third call was placed, Cain met Kronk near the wooded area, which is located near the home of George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of Caylee, who lived at the home with her mother, Casey Anthony.

"The officer showed up, he pulls out a metal baton (and) went to the water's edge. I pointed in the area where (the bag) was at, (and) he swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,'" Kronk said on the national TV show.

In a sheriff's report, Cain wrote that he saw "trash only" while checking on Kronk's tip.

Cain's Professional Standards History report shows that there was a complaint filed against him in 2006 for failing to "properly investigate an incident," Local 6 News reported. The report does not say if Cain had been disciplined for the incident.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter.

Sounds like a lazy officer? He didn't want to go out of his way I guess? Doesn't this prove that there was water there back in Aug? Also that's probably why Kronk himself didn't check the bag back in Aug. Doesn't this also prove Kronk DIDN'T "tamper" with anything? Though how can looking inside the bag be tampering if you don't know what's inside? Wouldn't it only be tampering if he then touched and moved things if he KNEW what was in the bag? Till someone actually looked in that bag and saw what was in there, wasn't it just a trash bag? I hate to say it like that! Anyhow, how can the defense say he tampered, or whatever they will call it, with the crime scene if it wasn't a crime scene? Am I just reaching here?? This just drives me nuts reading about the Kronk story being good for the defense. Sorry, I don't get why that could be?? The defense is going to grab onto ANYTHING and try to run with it. It DOESN'T mean it will work for them. I just don't get why Kronk calling back in Aug, and the officer not looking means KC must be found innocent?? It just doesn't equal up to me!!! Also, how do we know for sure that Kronk and the officer were in that exact same spot where she was found? How can that be proven? They could have been 10ft, 20ft away, who knows? We also know the bag could have shifted some over the mos especially being it WAS in water!!!

OK, sorry that was sooo long, I'm done!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 09:08:12 AM
Welcom Luvmyboys.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 09:08:45 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:09:11 AM
Any monkey want to fess-up? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

Feces-tossing monkey on the loose in Tampa area
ASSOCIATED PRESS • January 14, 2009

 Buzz up! CLEARWATER — A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.


 Wildlife officials say the rhesus monkey isn’t dangerous but the species is known to throw feces when mad.

Authorities have been trying to capture the primate since Tuesday afternoon. It managed to evade a bucket truck and tranquilizer dart.

Gary Morse with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the adult male is thought to have escaped from an unlicensed source. It was last seen in Clearwater.



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

 (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18477079/detail.html)
Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009
 
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orange County sheriff's deputy who checked on an August tip made by the meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony in the same area in December was identified Tuesday by Local 6 News.

Orange County sheriff's Deputy Richard Cain, 40, closed the door of his home when he was confronted by Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio, who attempted to ask him questions about the incident.

Cain was hired by Orange County in 2006 and was assigned to patrol the area where Caylee's remains were found. An administrative review is under way to determine if Cain violated any policies when he went to wooded area to check on the tip, which was phoned in by Orange County utility worker Roy Kronk.

In a Tuesday interview on "Good Morning America," Kronk said Cain was "kind of rude."

"There was water there in August, and I guess the deputy didn't want to go out in the water to look in the bag," said Kronk, who phoned in tips about a suspicious bag three consecutive days in August.

After the third call was placed, Cain met Kronk near the wooded area, which is located near the home of George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of Caylee, who lived at the home with her mother, Casey Anthony.

"The officer showed up, he pulls out a metal baton (and) went to the water's edge. I pointed in the area where (the bag) was at, (and) he swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,'" Kronk said on the national TV show.

In a sheriff's report, Cain wrote that he saw "trash only" while checking on Kronk's tip.

Cain's Professional Standards History report shows that there was a complaint filed against him in 2006 for failing to "properly investigate an incident," Local 6 News reported. The report does not say if Cain had been disciplined for the incident.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter.


Well it wasn't Rusciano, but it was a lazy officer.  I hate lazy officers.  That body could have been found much sooner.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 14, 2009, 09:09:37 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.
Morning Steel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 09:10:15 AM
Trimm, the video of Luka saying that jibberish to Kathy Belich is even better. He sounds like porky pig, th th thaaats all folks.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:10:33 AM

luckycharms, I totally agree with a lot of what you've said.

1.) It doesn't make any sense to me that the Anthonys have basically attacked anybody who believed Caylee was deceased, and yet they went ahead and worked with these people to find her dead or alive? And we know that others -including a psychic who was NOT Gale, and I don't even believe this woman- had asked Cindy for an object of Caylee's, and those people were refused.  So why this woman? Because she's so well known?   ::MonkeyRoll:: I sure as hell never heard of her. (Of course that isn't saying much, but still).

2.) You're so right about the "hunch".  A hunch that brought that guy out to the same spot multiple times? Why would somebody who is just a meter reader (which we're finding out he is not "just"), have a hunch that a dead child is in any particular area? Was he armchair sleuthing just like us, on his off time? Or is it more?  We're hearing that his boss lived down the street from the Anthonys. We also know there is a possible connection to somebody in the jail.  Is this REALLY all a coincidence? I doubt it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:14:41 AM
Good Morning to all!

I have a very bad feeling about the deputy that responded to Kronk on the 11th. I think this is the reason we haven't seen anything about the Ant's and prosecution for obstruction. Unless it is proven that a link to them was on the phone or got the information to D. Casey.
If that can't be proven then the Ant's are free and clear of fraud(taking donations when they knew the baby was deceased) also LE would be in trouble from a liability standpoint if they honestly had the opportunity to find the body and did not take advantage of it. I think the Ant's would sue and that is probably the reason LE hasn't pushed obstruction ::MonkeyNoNo::
DC on video and who he was talking to has nothing to do with why the A's were asking for immunity. LE is just sitting back and letting everything unfold..there is no hurry. I don't think they will get immunity because the more that comes out the worse the case looks for the A's and Casey. This case was stronger than most thought before the body was found to charge her with 1st degree murder and now....the puzzle pieces are forming a more complete picture and there are alot of players.

When JB said there would be names we had never heard, etc he was right. Look at all the new players that have come up in the last month.


I am kind of in the camp now that this surfacing of the tape has completely blown cover on what Baez was going to use at trial for reasonable doubt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 09:14:58 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 09:16:01 AM
Any monkey want to fess-up? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

Feces-tossing monkey on the loose in Tampa area
ASSOCIATED PRESS • January 14, 2009

 Buzz up! CLEARWATER — A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.


 Wildlife officials say the rhesus monkey isn’t dangerous but the species is known to throw feces when mad.

Authorities have been trying to capture the primate since Tuesday afternoon. It managed to evade a bucket truck and tranquilizer dart.

Gary Morse with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission says the adult male is thought to have escaped from an unlicensed source. It was last seen in Clearwater.



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Oh My. Maybe he's making his way to Orlando.  ::MonkeyDance::

     Morning Monkey's!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:16:20 AM
gonna try and clean this up a bit...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                      Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.  The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.  Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”

For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Trimm, the video of Luka saying that jibberish to Kathy Belich is even better. He sounds like porky pig, th th thaaats all folks.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Goodness, got a chuckle out of that.  Liars like to touch their face and the higher they go when lying is how much they are lying.  I think he almost rubbed his scalp off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 14, 2009, 09:18:09 AM
Boo, are you still here? If so, have a great day today at your new job. Let us know how it goes!

Can Josef eat pizza anytime soon? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:18:32 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

I don't like that website much, a bit brash and x-rated for me, but she or he seems to expose some of the outliers attempting to cash in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 09:20:29 AM
Russ, I agree. I enjoyed reading your posts too, we think alike. I think that when this all shakes out, Baez is somehow involved with this 'search' and will face BIG trouble.. love it
As far as Kronk, I haven't made any decisions about him yet, I am too uncertain. As Judge Judy says, "it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 09:21:02 AM
When JB said there would be names we had never heard, etc he was right. Look at all the new players that have come up in the last month. [/color]
I was trying to remember who said that the other day.

Just to add a thought to your "what if".  What if, the Caylee memorial/burial is a smokescreen by the defense to keep the public's attention focused again from.....  I just haven't been able to fill in the blank.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 14, 2009, 09:21:05 AM
I'm behind about 20 pages..  I crashed before NG was over,.. but from what I heard out of the mouth of that so-called psychic. OMG. That woman is screwy!!  Seriously. Did you listen to her answers? The way she replied to things? Not only unprofessional, but unbelievable.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I just read NG transcripts. All I have to say is as big a company as Verizon is I am surprised she is supposedly having trouble getting her telephone records.

Over the years I have used many cell companies and always had my hands on my cell records. I changed about 5 years ago to VirginMobile prepay and I can go on the website and pull up all activity on the cells. The only calls that don't show are the ones within the last few hours and they post later. I am havng a hard time with her cell phone proof and personally I would not have done any interviews until I had hardcopies of the calls. It really won't be that hard for LE to prove who he was talking to.

I have Verizon or rather my husband has (we are not together but still married).  A few years ago I called to get detailed calls for my phone number.  They sent me detailed accounts for both my and my husband's and the account is not even in my name.  go figure! 
::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:21:06 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

OMG do not drink your java and read that at the same time. I almost choked on my coffee.  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 09:21:12 AM
I wonder what led Kronk to believe that this bag was suspicious. What was so different about it. Was there something poking out of the bag? Was it the only trash bag laying around? Just what led him to believe that this was "the" bag?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 09:23:42 AM
Trimm, the video of Luka saying that jibberish to Kathy Belich is even better. He sounds like porky pig, th th thaaats all folks.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Goodness, got a chuckle out of that.  Liars like to touch their face and the higher they go when lying is how much they are lying.  I think he almost rubbed his scalp off.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 14, 2009, 09:26:43 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:28:24 AM
Russ, I agree. I enjoyed reading your posts too, we think alike. I think that when this all shakes out, Baez is somehow involved with this 'search' and will face BIG trouble.. love it
As far as Kronk, I haven't made any decisions about him yet, I am too uncertain. As Judge Judy says, "it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"


Quote
it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"

Well that covers just about everything KC has ever said!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 09:28:36 AM
Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

 (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18477079/detail.html)
Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009
 
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orange County sheriff's deputy who checked on an August tip made by the meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony in the same area in December was identified Tuesday by Local 6 News.

Orange County sheriff's Deputy Richard Cain, 40, closed the door of his home when he was confronted by Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio, who attempted to ask him questions about the incident.

Cain was hired by Orange County in 2006 and was assigned to patrol the area where Caylee's remains were found. An administrative review is under way to determine if Cain violated any policies when he went to wooded area to check on the tip, which was phoned in by Orange County utility worker Roy Kronk.

In a Tuesday interview on "Good Morning America," Kronk said Cain was "kind of rude."

"There was water there in August, and I guess the deputy didn't want to go out in the water to look in the bag," said Kronk, who phoned in tips about a suspicious bag three consecutive days in August.

After the third call was placed, Cain met Kronk near the wooded area, which is located near the home of George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of Caylee, who lived at the home with her mother, Casey Anthony.

"The officer showed up, he pulls out a metal baton (and) went to the water's edge. I pointed in the area where (the bag) was at, (and) he swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,'" Kronk said on the national TV show.

In a sheriff's report, Cain wrote that he saw "trash only" while checking on Kronk's tip.

Cain's Professional Standards History report shows that there was a complaint filed against him in 2006 for failing to "properly investigate an incident," Local 6 News reported. The report does not say if Cain had been disciplined for the incident.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter.

Sounds like a lazy officer? He didn't want to go out of his way I guess? Doesn't this prove that there was water there back in Aug? Also that's probably why Kronk himself didn't check the bag back in Aug. Doesn't this also prove Kronk DIDN'T "tamper" with anything? Though how can looking inside the bag be tampering if you don't know what's inside? Wouldn't it only be tampering if he then touched and moved things if he KNEW what was in the bag? Till someone actually looked in that bag and saw what was in there, wasn't it just a trash bag? I hate to say it like that! Anyhow, how can the defense say he tampered, or whatever they will call it, with the crime scene if it wasn't a crime scene? Am I just reaching here?? This just drives me nuts reading about the Kronk story being good for the defense. Sorry, I don't get why that could be?? The defense is going to grab onto ANYTHING and try to run with it. It DOESN'T mean it will work for them. I just don't get why Kronk calling back in Aug, and the officer not looking means KC must be found innocent?? It just doesn't equal up to me!!! Also, how do we know for sure that Kronk and the officer were in that exact same spot where she was found? How can that be proven? They could have been 10ft, 20ft away, who knows? We also know the bag could have shifted some over the mos especially being it WAS in water!!!

OK, sorry that was sooo long, I'm done!

I think this was Leonard was talking about on NG last night.  That they were not the exact spot. I thought Leonard was trying to keep the officer from being thrown under the bus.

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LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: ....

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:29:21 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:31:25 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 

As per Judge Judy as posted by flamom:

"it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 09:33:07 AM
She also said the bill does not go to her but to her dad.


Yes, but it is THEIR business together.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Bill goes to her daddy? LOL.

Sorry, do not buy the story. Its crime 101 to look within 1/2 mile of home and look for an abandoned home. What do all abandoned homes have ... garbage and trash bags. Anyone would know to say to look for a garbage bag as that was the suspected means of dumping Caylee.

According to Kathy Belich, the bags that we saw Dominic Casey "knifing" back on November 15th are no longer at the abandoned house, not as of today when Kathy was there.

The person over at WS - that was at the house - is saying the bags were there.  She said they were on the the side of the house and she didn't think Kathi walked around to that side and saw them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 09:34:01 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!
Amen about Caylee Dolce... but if Baez is loving the confusion, then he is more of an idiot than I gave him credit for because all of this points back to his client because originally SHE was the only one who knew where she dumped her poor baby


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:34:32 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:37:55 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!
Amen about Caylee Dolce... but if Baez is loving the confusion, then he is more of an idiot than I gave him credit for because all of this points back to his client because originally SHE was the only one who knew where she dumped her poor baby
Oh I know that just as well as you know that Flmom, but does the average citizen know that?  The average person who is not a monkey or a sluether or a topix or a murter?  Probably not.  Baez can spin his web and add in a few of these nut cases to the mix all he wants in order to stir the pot of reasonable doubt.  The more the merrier UNTIL its proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it ties back to Casey, and in order to do that you would need some serious evidence, otherwise its just pure speculation....ATLEAST THAT IS  WHAT BAEZ WILL SAY.
She is guilty, that is something hard to defend, so he is going to have to continue to get down and dirty to do this.  More bodies thrown at the bus is my guess....better than his client in his mind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 14, 2009, 09:39:19 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.


Totally agree Dolce;
You would think that Cindy would get a clue.  It doesn't say much that even her entire family and her husband's family dislikes them.  I can't think of a single person or family who has alienated every single person on both sides of their families. Just Crazy i tell ya


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:39:24 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 09:39:29 AM
I think it is very interesting that the name of the man who owns the abandoned house is named

Hernan Gonzales  (sounds like) Fernandez Gonzales.



I didn't know how to quote from a previous thread, but i just remembered reading about this...  (by Anothermonkey)...  Does anyone think they are connected?

UM...

This German dude...
http://www.facebook.com/people/German-Gonzalez/782849533#/friends.php?id=782849533

Did any of you already notice (I'm behind a few pages, so you may have).. he has a friend named: Angieoneida Gonzalez.    (who is from PR)



Someone also posted that they saw this German Gonzalez, with the spanish accent being pronounced more like Herman Gonzalez (Hernan?), but with a shortened nickname version being "Manny" which we all know sounds like "Zanny."

I know that is quite a stretch and since i am new to the thread, I'm curious if any of you can fill in some of the details that might connect these things?  Like, how did that name German Gonzalez even come out?  Is it possible that it was Hernan Gonzalez instead?  Maybe someone spoke the name or overheard it and it was taken a little wrong?  With Padilla talking about there being 3 meter readers and DC searching this house, I just don't know what is important info and what isn't.

Like I said, I know it's a stretch, so if anyone can fill in details, please do!

Ok.  I think I can answr your question.  Before we knew the name of the Meter Reader we thought HIS name was German "Manny" Gonzales.  It was not.  It is Roy Kronk.  But the house that was abandonded belonged to Hernan Gonzales.  But now that I am writing that my hinky meter is going up.  Why did we hear almost the same name before....  That is just way way weird.   

Yes, it's such a loose connection, but it's one that is just too odd for me to let go of without commenting.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it is hinky.  But I do have to wonder who the person that first dropped that name "German Gonzales" was.  If any monkey got it from another thread or possibly had a lead of some sort from another source, I would really like to know.  Mostly, I was curious if anyone came up with that name German Gonzalez, because he was a meter reader?  I am not trying to start a rumor about him.  I speak with no real knowledge of why that name ever surfaced, but omg, if someone told me he was a meter reader right now, I would maybe just fall over from shock right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.
Morning Steel.

Well, good morning Saucy One!  Big Steel Monkey hugs to you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 

If Cindy even gave clues that she thought CASEY was guilty, guess what that would do to Baez' defense.  I am thinking that the lawyers have some say so as to what she is saying.
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
Dolce, I have faith in the Florida jurors.. remember Nelson Serrano? He was convicted and sentenced to death on sooo much less
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Serrano


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 09:41:51 AM
Still back on p.44.  So what is taking me so long?  Well, I got sidetracked.

I read a post (Klaas?) saying that it is possible that the Zenaida Almodovar listing in WhitePages at 4709 Hopespring (the Dillon home) might be a plant  -- That Casey or someone else might have created that listing...

Okay, I found a Zenaida Almodovar's FaceBook (as other Monkeys probably have), showing a lot of Puerto Rico friends.  Not much info, though.  Moving on...

I did a Zaba search of the name, located some Orlando listings in the results, and found two addresses and phone numbers.  One address is on Curry Ford Road, the other on (uh I forgot, sorry)... Anyway, my head is hurting and I'm sooooo tired anyway and have no business doing research in my current state.  But I found something perplexing -- maybe some monkey would like to check this out?

Same number, different area code.  Look at this:

407/282-3530 is an Orlando number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at 455 S. Orange Avenue.  It is a multi-level round building across the street from Orlando City Hall.

321/282-3530 is a Winter Park number.  A reverse search locates this phone number at a large building that appears to be the Winter Park City Hall.

Looks odd!!??  Anyone?

Oh, looks like this Zenaida has an older male relative (father) named Victor, same name Casey gave for ZFG's s-dad.

ok..  cross-eyed at this point..  dragging my poor old monkey self back to p. 44....

TIA


morning monkey peeps, i am behind, but those are 2 of the area codes that KC gave to LA for the nanny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.


If Cindy even gave clues that she thought CASEY was guilty, guess what that would do to Baez' defense.  I am thinking that the lawyers have some say so as to what she is saying.

Sorry, I didnt get scrolled down far enough on previous post. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:45:09 AM
Totally agree Dolce;
You would think that Cindy would get a clue.  It doesn't say much that even her entire family and her husband's family dislikes them.  I can't think of a single person or family who has alienated every single person on both sides of their families. Just Crazy i tell ya
I think they have the clue that not many people like them.  I do not think they care though.  Its hard to care what another thinks when you are completely ingulfed by your own personal self. 
Being the victim is how Cindy justifies all actions in her mind.  "They WRONGED ME" and not the other way around.  She refuses to take responsibility for her actions as that would make her the bad person, its all about her, never once about Caylee.  "She took MY Caylee from ME" and now "The LE is taking MY daughter from ME", "The PI is selling MY VIDEO".....
After watching the reactions and actions taken by Adji's family over the past 4 days, that is a grieving and broken family.  The Anthony's do not even come close to pond scum, in fact they make pond scum look good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
Looking for help.

Does anyone remember when it was two neighbors were listed in her phone as other things?  I think Lee called numbers from the phone and they had this who's on first kind of discussion and he discovered they were neighbors. 

I can't find it!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 09:49:07 AM
Totally agree Dolce;
You would think that Cindy would get a clue.  It doesn't say much that even her entire family and her husband's family dislikes them.  I can't think of a single person or family who has alienated every single person on both sides of their families. Just Crazy i tell ya
I think they have the clue that not many people like them.  I do not think they care though.  Its hard to care what another thinks when you are completely ingulfed by your own personal self. 
Being the victim is how Cindy justifies all actions in her mind.  "They WRONGED ME" and not the other way around.  She refuses to take responsibility for her actions as that would make her the bad person, its all about her, never once about Caylee.  "She took MY Caylee from ME" and now "The LE is taking MY daughter from ME", "The PI is selling MY VIDEO".....
After watching the reactions and actions taken by Adji's family over the past 4 days, that is a grieving and broken family.  The Anthony's do not even come close to pond scum, in fact they make pond scum look good.



They never grieved.  I don't think they can because you have to have a soul for that.  Someone started searching for Zenaida on day 2 from the home computer to find an alibi.  They started circling the wagons, washing clothes, wiping things clean from the beginning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:51:01 AM
I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.
I do not think it is so much as odd but more like a Casey turn of events.  Casey purchased the tickets for her friens trips to PR, we have always questioned why she would do this.  Well if she was planning all of this as far back as when she started her web searches, then its nothing more than an attempt to tie in a non-existant nanny.  Suggesting her friends to go to PR (to throw them under the bus later) after finding out info on the previous owner of the abandoned home she was using or had found.  I am sure if the family had moved to Kansas she would have sent her friends on a great vaca to Kansas....see what I am getting at here?
I think it was planned by Casey, not the best planning, but I think she had plans in her mind, Cindy's actions just set them in motion a little quicker than she had originally planned which is why she had to buy herself some time, and that was working for her so she just let it continue until it blew up into the 31+ days.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:52:23 AM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 
Shannon, that used to be the case, now Catholics are not so opposed to cremation due to overcrowded cemeteries and costs of burial. Things have changed in the last few years. There is a parish where I live that has a columbarium (sp) where ashes are placed in a wall, instead of being buried at a cemetary. I believe it is the only one around here, but not sure about the Catholic cemetaries though.

TY, I thought that was the case.
Oh your welcome Shannon. I didn't think anyone was reading my post about this.

Sorry about the quote stack.  I appreciated your reply, JSM, but I'm still sick and so far behind.  I went to a Catholic funeral once where the guy had been cremated, and it didn't seem to be an issue.  That's how my confusion arose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:52:29 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.

I see what you mean Russ, but didn't that Gonzalez family move back to PR a year ago? That doesn't fit in with the time line. Plus wouldn't the judge have to allow this as evidence, & give the prosecution the opportunity to knock it down? Which would be very easy to do. I know I don't know alot about all this court room stuff, but I know a little bit, I think! I just don't see how the defense could get away with it, though I know they can try. It just kills me seeing them getting all the focus off of the only one who is responsible, and G&C, especially CA drive me completely bananas!! The only reason (like I think Dolce was just saying)that CA is going to say KC is innocent is because she has something to lose if she doesn't. Maybe what ever involvement she may have with covering up, or KC has something else on her from over the past many years!!! I just dunno! This IS supposed to be about Caylee, 1st, then KC because she is the ONLY who has evidence AGAINST her that SHE did this to Caylee!! I wish all these other idiots would get there lying mugs off the tv, I'm so tired of all the BS and all this reasonable doubt cr@p!!! ENOUGH already, geeeeeessssssshhhhhhhhh!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 09:52:41 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
This is part of the video at the vacant house - that shows the bags were still there.
In case you guys haven't seen it yet.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=house_right.flv



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 09:53:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys
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Was up half the night (which begins at 2am) so I'm gonna be a little slow today..
skimmed through a few pages and need to go back and read..just wanted to pop in..

Hi Lucinda...you're never ignored by me..I just can't catch you .. I'm on the fence again about Kronk..need more input..and coffee

and about the monkey on the run....I haven't seen Mytime in a while  ::MonkeyWink::

please take a moment of silence.............so I can catch up dang it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 09:53:32 AM
Pretty sure this is the cop.  Myspace search Rich Cain:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=84205385

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/richcain1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/m_ca732534f0f94ffcefb644061dc89d-1.jpg)

adogntime

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46961

Here is a better picture of him.  Appears he is married:

http://www.policelink.com/member/dogntime


The only reason why I care at all is because Casey was known to have "dated" 2-3 cops and maybe more.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 09:55:29 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:57:11 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

I read it Lucinda, and must say you have a better stomach than I do!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 14, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

Whoa.  Lucinda, I read everything but I only remember you writing about how hot is is there and I thought, gosh, I have always wanted to go there but I can stand to be hot.  Anything over 70 is way too hot for me.  Can you believe Im up this early????  Already had two cups of coffee.  Now Ill go back and read what else you wrote.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 09:58:33 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


(http://th430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/fleetmetal87/th_sleeping-monkey.gif)

Nighty Night Lucinda!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::
TATERKINZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    
Yes thank you for the nice reminder!  I shall put that reminder on my BlackBerry to remind me each morning, sort of as a "pick me up". 
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


Oh Lucinda I'm sorry. I just reread your post, I missed that whole first sentance. I know how you feel it happens to me alot too, even today I wrote a long post and only one monkey replied to it. I know it's not on purpose, it just happens. Just don't feel ignored, you're not. Every monkey here loves you, don't worry!! (((Monkey Hugs)))

Nighty Night again, see you tonight, or tomorrow morning!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: ccndixie on January 14, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.



Lucinda, please don't feel that way -- I also hesitate to post much for this reason, but I enjoyed reading your post very much and actually admire you a great deal for the job you used to do.  Not sure I could do this.  I have worked as an investigator for serious traffic accidents resulting in some very severe injuries and separation of body parts from impact.  Not for the squeamish (spelling?) and not something I enjoyed a great deal.  Sorry to hear that you have not been well and I think you would be a great profiler as you seem to have a lot of empathy for situations.  Please don't go -- I do enjoy your posts and hope you have a g'day mate!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:01:23 AM
Whoa.  Lucinda, I read everything but I only remember you writing about how hot is is there and I thought, gosh, I have always wanted to go there but I can stand to be hot.  Anything over 70 is way too hot for me.  Can you believe Im up this early????  Already had two cups of coffee.  Now Ill go back and read what else you wrote.
I can not believe you are up this early.  Nordstrom must be having a huge sale.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:02:32 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.

I see what you mean Russ, but didn't that Gonzalez family move back to PR a year ago? That doesn't fit in with the time line. Plus wouldn't the judge have to allow this as evidence, & give the prosecution the opportunity to knock it down? Which would be very easy to do. I know I don't know alot about all this court room stuff, but I know a little bit, I think! I just don't see how the defense could get away with it, though I know they can try. It just kills me seeing them getting all the focus off of the only one who is responsible, and G&C, especially CA drive me completely bananas!! The only reason (like I think Dolce was just saying)that CA is going to say KC is innocent is because she has something to lose if she doesn't. Maybe what ever involvement she may have with covering up, or KC has something else on her from over the past many years!!! I just dunno! This IS supposed to be about Caylee, 1st, then KC because she is the ONLY who has evidence AGAINST her that SHE did this to Caylee!! I wish all these other idiots would get there lying mugs off the tv, I'm so tired of all the BS and all this reasonable doubt cr@p!!! ENOUGH already, geeeeeessssssshhhhhhhhh!!

I thought about the timeframe from when they moved according to the neighbor.  Was it actually a year, or sometime within the last year?  We don't know exactly when they moved, but oddly the house is not sold and still has their stuff there as if they left "in a hurry".

Now, if I am right, the surfacing of this tape is huge for the prosecution because it can't be a surprise at trial now.  It gives investigators time to rule it out.  Hoover took them out at the knees.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 14, 2009, 10:02:49 AM
Whoa.  Lucinda, I read everything but I only remember you writing about how hot is is there and I thought, gosh, I have always wanted to go there but I can stand to be hot.  Anything over 70 is way too hot for me.  Can you believe Im up this early????  Already had two cups of coffee.  Now Ill go back and read what else you wrote.
I can not believe you are up this early.  Nordstrom must be having a huge sale.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hahahahahahahahaha.  They are??????????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
Whoa.  Lucinda, I read everything but I only remember you writing about how hot is is there and I thought, gosh, I have always wanted to go there but I can stand to be hot.  Anything over 70 is way too hot for me.  Can you believe Im up this early????  Already had two cups of coffee.  Now Ill go back and read what else you wrote.
I can not believe you are up this early.  Nordstrom must be having a huge sale.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Hahahahahahahahaha.  They are??????????????????????

I do not know, have not ventured there lately. :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 10:04:48 AM
Its Ok, sorry for that.  im never ignored in here.  I am just feeling down.  You all rock, I did not expect an answer, maybe I did, my husband does not want me to go back to the funeral parlour to work anymore.  Its a sore issue here, so maybe I just wanted you all to say wow what a grat job you are doing, I dunno.  We are so broke, and cleaning motels kills me physically, I cant do it nay more. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: N2WISHN on January 14, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.




By their actions, Cindy and George are responsible for turning this into circus to get KC off of the DP and also a Cash Cow for themselves. You are so correct about how self serving this appalling family is........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:05:37 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


Oh Lucinda I'm sorry. I just reread your post, I missed that whole first sentance. I know how you feel it happens to me alot too, even today I wrote a long post and only one monkey replied to it. I know it's not on purpose, it just happens. Just don't feel ignored, you're not. Every monkey here loves you, don't worry!! (((Monkey Hugs)))

Nighty Night again, see you tonight, or tomorrow morning!!

Again I'm such a dumb monkey today. I re-reread your post, I ONLY read the 1st sentance!! Again I'm sorry!! Just remember you are not being ignored (I have to tell myself that sometimes). I think we're all just too busy. Many times I say I'll go back to reading a post, and I never do. Some monkeys are also many pages behind, like me ALOT of times!!

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: QuietMonkey Today  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:07:16 AM
I thought about the timeframe from when they moved according to the neighbor.  Was it actually a year, or sometime within the last year?  We don't know exactly when they moved, but oddly the house is not sold and still has their stuff there as if they left "in a hurry".

Now, if I am right, the surfacing of this tape is huge for the prosecution because it can't be a surprise at trial now.  It gives investigators time to rule it out.  Hoover took them out at the knees.
I do not think that the way the house is left is nessesarily a reason to think they left in a hurry.  The housing market down here for the past year has been horrific.  If moved to PR then they might not have had the money to take their furniture and belongings as its extremely costly to move and ship those items, I am sure the priorities came first, such as their cars, personal clothing, some childrens toys....
I am just taking into consideration the economy down here and how many of those who have come to the main land of the USA are now leaving due to no work, bad economy, and inability to keep up with payments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 10:07:30 AM
from luvmyboys.....                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!<br /><br />That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/><br /><br />“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.<br style="display:none" gauntlet_tokenizer_reserved=""/>” <br /><br />For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!<br /><br />News website - <a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm5hdGlvbmFsZW5xdWlyZXIuY29tL2Nhc2V5X2FudGhvbnlfYW5vdGhlcl9iYWJ5L2NyaW1lLzYzNDY4" target="_blank">http://www. nationalenquirer. com/casey_anthony_another_baby/crime/63468</a>


Sounds like defense spinning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.   That is really good to read....the more you post the less shy you will be. I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot. WE are do...but just ask for a little update and remember to go the  the thread with the latest media.....Thanks to Blonde....it's a great place to get caught up   I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job. Holy Moley!!!   And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  Dreams DO come true....I say never give up on your dreams!!  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book. 

Good Morning Monks...old and new!! Thanks for your insight Lucinda......I look forward to reading more from you. Monks  what have I missed since yesterday evening??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:10:50 AM
This is part of the video at the vacant house - that shows the bags were still there.
In case you guys haven't seen it yet.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=house_right.flv


Thanks, that's good to know.  So Kathy Belich was wrong and at least some of the bags are still there:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/th_house_right.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=house_right.flv)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/bagshouse.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:12:20 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.

Out of the thousands and thousands and thousands of psychic tips we had a fun time reading at their release during the doc dump, WHY THIS PSYCHIC?  Why believe this one individual D. Casey?  If you did not take the others seriously and investigate them to the fullest, WHY this one?
If she is a true psychic and this is in fact proven real, well then may the heavens open up and gum balls fall!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:12:32 AM
Pretty sure this is the cop.  Myspace search Rich Cain:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=84205385

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/richcain1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/m_ca732534f0f94ffcefb644061dc89d-1.jpg)

adogntime

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46961

Here is a better picture of him.  Appears he is married:

http://www.policelink.com/member/dogntime


The only reason why I care at all is because Casey was known to have "dated" 2-3 cops and maybe more.  ::MonkeyCool::

Do you think Casey would "date" an ugly cop to get something she wanted? I mean.. how much is she willing to lower her standards, I wonder?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 10:12:41 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 

what is this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:12:42 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:12:56 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.

I see what you mean Russ, but didn't that Gonzalez family move back to PR a year ago? That doesn't fit in with the time line. Plus wouldn't the judge have to allow this as evidence, & give the prosecution the opportunity to knock it down? Which would be very easy to do. I know I don't know alot about all this court room stuff, but I know a little bit, I think! I just don't see how the defense could get away with it, though I know they can try. It just kills me seeing them getting all the focus off of the only one who is responsible, and G&C, especially CA drive me completely bananas!! The only reason (like I think Dolce was just saying)that CA is going to say KC is innocent is because she has something to lose if she doesn't. Maybe what ever involvement she may have with covering up, or KC has something else on her from over the past many years!!! I just dunno! This IS supposed to be about Caylee, 1st, then KC because she is the ONLY who has evidence AGAINST her that SHE did this to Caylee!! I wish all these other idiots would get there lying mugs off the tv, I'm so tired of all the BS and all this reasonable doubt cr@p!!! ENOUGH already, geeeeeessssssshhhhhhhhh!!

I thought about the timeframe from when they moved according to the neighbor.  Was it actually a year, or sometime within the last year?  We don't know exactly when they moved, but oddly the house is not sold and still has their stuff there as if they left "in a hurry".

Now, if I am right, the surfacing of this tape is huge for the prosecution because it can't be a surprise at trial now.  It gives investigators time to rule it out.  Hoover took them out at the knees.

I'm not sure if that's an exact time (one year) that's just what I read somewhere, or heard? Maybe wftv? I am surprise that they still own the house and it was left like that. I wonder if those were their pepsi machines, or did strangers dump them there over the last year? Either way it is strange. Are they still paying the mortgage on this house I wonder? I really hope LE checks them out regardless whether or not they are related to this case, just so they can rule them out of being involved in this story in any way shape or form. I mean, they could be unknowningly involved (if KC was using there house for any reason, even if they didn't know). Anyhow I hope it all gets checked out so it can be ruled out. How could the defense just spring this up and them? Can the prosecution just spring things up on the defense? Thought it had to be released to them so they can check it out. Why doesn't the defense have to do that? That I don't understand.

Ok, I have to go for a little while, my morning is disappearing and I have alot to do. I have to stop this monkey business for awhile!! Sorry, no offense Monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 10:14:02 AM

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.  Because I started on this forum later than most of you monkeys, I am not really familiar with Joy Wray.  I do, however, totally get it that not many people think very highly of her.  LOL  But I am curious, still.  Doesn't Joy claim to be involved in the case?  Something like a husband that is a PI?  Could it be that she was privy to a defense move to find someone to hang their reasonable doubt on, ie. Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez and she just heard the name wrong?  Or maybe his name actually did come up during a meter reader discussion and he's this mysterious 3rd reader that LP speaks of. (Wild speculation, obviously with that last one!)

If Joy overheard the information, I could see pretty easily where a "Hernan Gonzalez" was confused with a "German Gonzales" or a "Herman Gonzalez." 

But too, could she have been privy to actual information regarding the case, not just a defense tactic?  Like I said above, I get that people don't hold her in high regard, but I think the info is still worth investigating/thinking about at the very least.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:14:18 AM
I thought about the timeframe from when they moved according to the neighbor.  Was it actually a year, or sometime within the last year?  We don't know exactly when they moved, but oddly the house is not sold and still has their stuff there as if they left "in a hurry".

Now, if I am right, the surfacing of this tape is huge for the prosecution because it can't be a surprise at trial now.  It gives investigators time to rule it out.  Hoover took them out at the knees.
I do not think that the way the house is left is nessesarily a reason to think they left in a hurry.  The housing market down here for the past year has been horrific.  If moved to PR then they might not have had the money to take their furniture and belongings as its extremely costly to move and ship those items, I am sure the priorities came first, such as their cars, personal clothing, some childrens toys....
I am just taking into consideration the economy down here and how many of those who have come to the main land of the USA are now leaving due to no work, bad economy, and inability to keep up with payments.


I don't see the home in foreclosure though.  Maybe I missed where the bad economy affected these people and they are unable to pay the mortgage while they live in Puerto Rico.   I see no tax liens.  The front yard is being kept immaculate.  From the pictures someone remarked as if there are toys and furniture inside.  If they are paying the mortgage and taxes, living in Puerto Rico, I ask why and how.  Maybe they are "rich", as Casey said ZFG was.  Remember she wove real people into her lies like some speculate KioMarie Cruz Torres (oddly the nieghbors last name on Brackenwood) was the centerpiece of her description of ZFG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:15:25 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


Oh Lucinda I'm sorry. I just reread your post, I missed that whole first sentance. I know how you feel it happens to me alot too, even today I wrote a long post and only one monkey replied to it. I know it's not on purpose, it just happens. Just don't feel ignored, you're not. Every monkey here loves you, don't worry!! (((Monkey Hugs)))

Nighty Night again, see you tonight, or tomorrow morning!!

Again I'm such a dumb monkey today. I re-reread your post, I ONLY read the 1st sentance!! Again I'm sorry!! Just remember you are not being ignored (I have to tell myself that sometimes). I think we're all just too busy. Many times I say I'll go back to reading a post, and I never do. Some monkeys are also many pages behind, like me ALOT of times!!

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: QuietMonkey Today  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

It happens on an almost daily occurrence.. at this point, it's almost amusing.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
gonna try and clean this up a bit...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                      Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.  The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.  Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”

For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:16:06 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

(((Lucinda))) big monkey hugs or you. I read everything, or try to. I am always behind, it seems. Please keep sharing..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:16:40 AM

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.  Because I started on this forum later than most of you monkeys, I am not really familiar with Joy Wray.  I do, however, totally get it that not many people think very highly of her.  LOL  But I am curious, still.  Doesn't Joy claim to be involved in the case?  Something like a husband that is a PI?  Could it be that she was privy to a defense move to find someone to hang their reasonable doubt on, ie. Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez and she just heard the name wrong?  Or maybe his name actually did come up during a meter reader discussion and he's this mysterious 3rd reader that LP speaks of. (Wild speculation, obviously with that last one!)

If Joy overheard the information, I could see pretty easily where a "Hernan Gonzalez" was confused with a "German Gonzales" or a "Herman Gonzalez." 

But too, could she have been privy to actual information regarding the case, not just a defense tactic?  Like I said above, I get that people don't hold her in high regard, but I think the info is still worth investigating/thinking about at the very least.

Hernan Gonzalez.  Her Nan Gonzalez. Her Nanny Gonzalez.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 10:16:54 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.

Out of the thousands and thousands and thousands of psychic tips we had a fun time reading at their release during the doc dump, WHY THIS PSYCHIC?  Why believe this one individual D. Casey?  If you did not take the others seriously and investigate them to the fullest, WHY this one?
If she is a true psychic and this is in fact proven real, well then may the heavens open up and gum balls fall!

And this is what baffles me the most...

Why do these people keep inserting themselves into this story?  If it can be easily proven by LE with FACTS that she was never on the phone with D Casey, then why even go there?  IMO, the 15 minutes of fame would not be worth it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:17:54 AM
Russ, I agree. I enjoyed reading your posts too, we think alike. I think that when this all shakes out, Baez is somehow involved with this 'search' and will face BIG trouble.. love it
As far as Kronk, I haven't made any decisions about him yet, I am too uncertain. As Judge Judy says, "it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"

sneaking in beside you.....and Russ ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
gonna try and clean this up a bit...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                      Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.  The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.  Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”

For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:19:27 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/f10egm.jpg)

Nice picture of the body location I thought I would post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 10:21:19 AM

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.  Because I started on this forum later than most of you monkeys, I am not really familiar with Joy Wray.  I do, however, totally get it that not many people think very highly of her.  LOL  But I am curious, still.  Doesn't Joy claim to be involved in the case?  Something like a husband that is a PI?  Could it be that she was privy to a defense move to find someone to hang their reasonable doubt on, ie. Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez and she just heard the name wrong?  Or maybe his name actually did come up during a meter reader discussion and he's this mysterious 3rd reader that LP speaks of. (Wild speculation, obviously with that last one!)

If Joy overheard the information, I could see pretty easily where a "Hernan Gonzalez" was confused with a "German Gonzales" or a "Herman Gonzalez." 

But too, could she have been privy to actual information regarding the case, not just a defense tactic?  Like I said above, I get that people don't hold her in high regard, but I think the info is still worth investigating/thinking about at the very least.

Hernan Gonzalez.  Her Nan Gonzalez. Her Nanny Gonzalez.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Oooohhhh!  Good one!  I like that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:22:37 AM
Russ, I agree. I enjoyed reading your posts too, we think alike. I think that when this all shakes out, Baez is somehow involved with this 'search' and will face BIG trouble.. love it
As far as Kronk, I haven't made any decisions about him yet, I am too uncertain. As Judge Judy says, "it doesnt make sense, and if it doesnt make sense, its not true"

sneaking in beside you.....and Russ ::MonkeyWink::
Wait, lemme skoochie over a bit.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:22:45 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:25:10 AM
I don't see the home in foreclosure though.  Maybe I missed where the bad economy affected these people and they are unable to pay the mortgage while they live in Puerto Rico.   I see no tax liens.  The front yard is being kept immaculate.  From the pictures someone remarked as if there are toys and furniture inside.  If they are paying the mortgage and taxes, living in Puerto Rico, I ask why and how.  Maybe they are "rich", as Casey said ZFG was.  Remember she wove real people into her lies like some speculate KioMarie Cruz Torres (oddly the nieghbors last name on Brackenwood) was the centerpiece of her description of ZFG.
I have no doubt that she has woven these real people into her story, I just do not think they left in the night back to PR or spuratically.  If they found good work in PR then they could afford to maintain their property until the economy strengthens and they can sell at the better price.  I know several families who are doing this very thing right now.  One girl I went to college with has moved back to Shanghai and pays all of her bills from there for her home in Gainesville, FL.  She was not making enough here in the States to pay for her lifestyle, but the economy would not have payed the mortage off if she sold the house, so she is sitting on it.  Her furniture stayed as well, she sold her car, and moved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 10:27:17 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::
TATERKINZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    
Yes thank you for the nice reminder!  I shall put that reminder on my BlackBerry to remind me each morning, sort of as a "pick me up". 
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Hi Dearheart!!I hope you and the twins are doing so well...:) That is a good idea Dolce! A pick me up reminder for sure.Ya know what?If Le had said something vague like *good*,*enough*,or *plenty*,I'd be more concerned then I am.As soon as I read the word *overwhelming*,I was immediatly at rest about all that is coming down the pike for Casey.We can listen and hear all sorts of things on a daily basis that causes us angst but when the end comes,I just know it is us that will be overwhelmed at the evidence they have against her.We all must remember that we are not insiders and privy to all the information.Casey will be convicted and I am 100 percent sure of it.Like I said,keep the faith and know that when doubt rises up against you,the devil is a LIAR..Hugs to you and the babies...:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 10:27:27 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:28:02 AM

<<snipped>>

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa:: We must have been walking down the same dark street!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:28:16 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.

Out of the thousands and thousands and thousands of psychic tips we had a fun time reading at their release during the doc dump, WHY THIS PSYCHIC?  Why believe this one individual D. Casey?  If you did not take the others seriously and investigate them to the fullest, WHY this one?
If she is a true psychic and this is in fact proven real, well then may the heavens open up and gum balls fall!

And this is what baffles me the most...

Why do these people keep inserting themselves into this story?  If it can be easily proven by LE with FACTS that she was never on the phone with D Casey, then why even go there?  IMO, the 15 minutes of fame would not be worth it.

Plus why did Hoover approach Tim Miller on the 8th...about a TIP???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:28:56 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
And this is what baffles me the most...

Why do these people keep inserting themselves into this story?  If it can be easily proven by LE with FACTS that she was never on the phone with D Casey, then why even go there?  IMO, the 15 minutes of fame would not be worth it.
This is where I think that the LE has fallen short in all of this, not prosecuting or seeking justice against those who are providing false information.  These assclowns are under the impression that they can just throw things out there, get their names in the press, get their website posted a few places for some hits, and then be done with it...why not George, Cindy, Lee, Kidfinders, Hoover, D.Casey, and all the other MANY MORE have come and gone doing this...why stop now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 10:29:14 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
When JB said there would be names we had never heard, etc he was right. Look at all the new players that have come up in the last month. [/color]
I was trying to remember who said that the other day.

Just to add a thought to your "what if".  What if, the Caylee memorial/burial is a smokescreen by the defense to keep the public's attention focused again from.....  I just haven't been able to fill in the blank.
...from what they are trying to coverup? You know this thing with Hoover and the video has been brewing since Padilla called FBI so that is about mid-December which I think LP said 16 or 17th. The remains were id'd publicly 12/19. It was announced the remains were released to the funeral home Dec 23 after Casey signed the papers.

I don't believe for a minute the family did not know she was dead but they were just hoping she wouldn't be found so Casey's lies and all their lies wouldn't be uncovered. They are just playing this out I think with the memorial and burial planning.
The remains were signed over to JB so he is in control at this point but it still shouldn't stop a memorial.

Wow...that coffee is kicking in. After all that I agree with what you said on the smokescreen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:29:55 AM

<<snipped>>

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa:: We must have been walking down the same dark street!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I screwed it up but hopefully with practice i will someday be able to do it correctly. You can teach an old monkey new tricks!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 10:30:21 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY
What I would like to know is Lois and Joy do they not have some kind of life, Joy sucking up to Cindy, and Lois fighting with Cindy, and both of them have kids to take care of. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: TxLady2 on January 14, 2009, 10:30:40 AM
I wonder what led Kronk to believe that this bag was suspicious. What was so different about it. Was there something poking out of the bag? Was it the only trash bag laying around? Just what led him to believe that this was "the" bag?

Exactly what I've been thinking all this time!! What led him to this exact spot and what made him look in that particular bag? I read somewhere a while back that the bag was wedged into some brush and not easy to find at first glance. I am just very curious how he happened to stumble upon it.
BTW... love your nick, I have 12-year old cat by that name, without the 53 of course. Reason I named her that is because when my husband brought her home she was inside his shirt and wasn't much bigger than a KitKat bar!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 10:31:58 AM
I'm about 20 pages behind but wanted to jump in here and say GOOD MORNING - and grab a cup of QM's coffee.
Never had that brand of coffee - what is it?   Is that a coffee shop brand like starbucks - or is it like 7/ll coffee?

Also, Welcome Luvmyboys!     ::MonkeyDance::

I'll catch up with you guys in about an hour  -  back to reading.     

http://www.timhortons.com/en/index.html

Yum! I enjoy their flavored coffee- the English Toffee. MMMM

Thanks for the link.   English Toffee - that does sound really good!
Their sandwiches and soups look good, too.

Never heard of Tim Hortons - but we could use one of those in my neighborhood!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:32:05 AM

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!

I said a long time ago that as soon as the A's realized caylee was dead and casey was the reason that Caylee became their throw away child...all their focus was then transferred to casey...everything they have done has been geared towards helping casey.....all the live sightings...that wasn't for Caylee...it was for  casey....for her defense...these people are the lowest of the low....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 10:34:38 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:34:45 AM

<<snipped>>

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa:: We must have been walking down the same dark street!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I screwed it up but hopefully with practice i will someday be able to do it correctly. You can teach an old monkey new tricks!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  It's all good. I did it 3 times the other day..  I just had to shake my head and laugh.  ::MonkeyWink:: 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.


Lucinda.....please don't think your post was ignored.....many of us are just pages back.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
Hi Dearheart!!I hope you and the twins are doing so well...:) That is a good idea Dolce! A pick me up reminder for sure.Ya know what?If Le had said something vague like *good*,*enough*,or *plenty*,I'd be more concerned then I am.As soon as I read the word *overwhelming*,I was immediatly at rest about all that is coming down the pike for Casey.We can listen and hear all sorts of things on a daily basis that causes us angst but when the end comes,I just know it is us that will be overwhelmed at the evidence they have against her.We all must remember that we are not insiders and privy to all the information.Casey will be convicted and I am 100 percent sure of it.Like I said,keep the faith and know that when doubt rises up against you,the devil is a LIAR..Hugs to you and the babies...:)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:35:44 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

I thought you did and they are the best product on the internet for this case.  I bounce all over sites because I am addicted to this case and it seems the best work and the best insight is on this website.  Many others have too many restrictions and too many negative nillys that just like to play devil's advocate all day.  Frankly someone pm'd me at another site with that url and they said it was excellent.  I hadn't seen it here, but sometimes I miss pages.

My wife thinks I am nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 14, 2009, 10:36:32 AM
My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
...............
The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
..
 

Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Baptized Catholics, IIRC, are NOT to believe in (or frown upon) cremation.  That is what I think she means. JMO. 
Shannon, that used to be the case, now Catholics are not so opposed to cremation due to overcrowded cemeteries and costs of burial. Things have changed in the last few years. There is a parish where I live that has a columbarium (sp) where ashes are placed in a wall, instead of being buried at a cemetary. I believe it is the only one around here, but not sure about the Catholic cemetaries though.

TY, I thought that was the case.
Oh your welcome Shannon. I didn't think anyone was reading my post about this.

Sorry about the quote stack.  I appreciated your reply, JSM, but I'm still sick and so far behind.  I went to a Catholic funeral once where the guy had been cremated, and it didn't seem to be an issue.  That's how my confusion arose.
You are welcome Blurry. I hope you feel better soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:36:36 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY
What I would like to know is Lois and Joy do they not have some kind of life, Joy sucking up to Cindy, and Lois fighting with Cindy, and both of them have kids to take care of. ::MonkeyConfused::
Rose, it seems to fill some sort of a strange void in their simple lives. I personally think these women should focus on some sort of public service or volunteer work and make a real difference instead of inserting themselves where they dont belong..  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
Before Caylee was found, the Ants were probably trying to find another phantom person to blame it on.  The lady told Dom to drive to the abandoned house. If the place is kept up and furniture is there and all the rest of it, what made it abandoned ? How did Dom know which house it was ? How did Joy know that name ?
With the Ants having that website or two, ppl contacting them, maybe that's what they were up to .. investigating other possible suspects and developing information for Baez to use in court. ie LE not following other leads as they LE and Yuri deciding who did it in the first few days.
Aren't you glad the meter reader found the remains ? Rather than Dom Casey ?
Or that the remains were found ?
This tape of Dom Casey's would have been a good one for Baez IF she had not been found. LE wasn't responding to any tips in mid November. Or chasing their tails trying to find other suspects or possibilities.
It got us all going and wondering, it would have done the same thing to a jury.
...
Where did the PAVER thing come from ? Why were ppl thinking that the pavers were a marker ? Another " tip " ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 10:36:46 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

Scary but very interesting profession.......
Do you think casey did this on purpose?
I do, but would like your input on this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 


what is this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:37:34 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
Niters Lucinda!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.
KitKat, That's it!!! That is why the Scamthonys haven't visited!! They talk to her when JB goes to the jail...  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Hi Dearheart!!I hope you and the twins are doing so well...:) That is a good idea Dolce! A pick me up reminder for sure.Ya know what?If Le had said something vague like *good*,*enough*,or *plenty*,I'd be more concerned then I am.As soon as I read the word *overwhelming*,I was immediatly at rest about all that is coming down the pike for Casey.We can listen and hear all sorts of things on a daily basis that causes us angst but when the end comes,I just know it is us that will be overwhelmed at the evidence they have against her.We all must remember that we are not insiders and privy to all the information.Casey will be convicted and I am 100 percent sure of it.Like I said,keep the faith and know that when doubt rises up against you,the devil is a LIAR..Hugs to you and the babies...:)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 10:42:18 AM

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.  Because I started on this forum later than most of you monkeys, I am not really familiar with Joy Wray.  I do, however, totally get it that not many people think very highly of her.  LOL  But I am curious, still.  Doesn't Joy claim to be involved in the case?  Something like a husband that is a PI?  Could it be that she was privy to a defense move to find someone to hang their reasonable doubt on, ie. Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez and she just heard the name wrong?  Or maybe his name actually did come up during a meter reader discussion and he's this mysterious 3rd reader that LP speaks of. (Wild speculation, obviously with that last one!)

If Joy overheard the information, I could see pretty easily where a "Hernan Gonzalez" was confused with a "German Gonzales" or a "Herman Gonzalez." 

But too, could she have been privy to actual information regarding the case, not just a defense tactic?  Like I said above, I get that people don't hold her in high regard, but I think the info is still worth investigating/thinking about at the very least.

Hernan Gonzalez.  Her Nan Gonzalez. Her Nanny Gonzalez.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Oooohhhh!  Good one!  I like that!

Me too!

I wonder tho, if the defense tried to use this as reasonable doubt, might it not backfire on them?  It seems like it would be proving one more of Casey's lies.  Just like in the Usual Suspects...  I feel like we're all sitting around looking at that bulletin board in the cop's office and thinking "OMG."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 10:42:26 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY
What I would like to know is Lois and Joy do they not have some kind of life, Joy sucking up to Cindy, and Lois fighting with Cindy, and both of them have kids to take care of. ::MonkeyConfused::
Rose, it seems to fill some sort of a strange void in their simple lives. I personally think these women should focus on some sort of public service or volunteer work and make a real difference instead of inserting themselves where they dont belong..  ::MonkeyNoNo::
There is something wrong with Joy mentally, and what really gets me mad is that I'm sure Cindy, because Joy looks to be very easy to manipulate, has used Joy to help with all the dirty work. Joy could be in a lot of trouble, and does not even realize, because she thinks she is helping the family. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:43:15 AM
Its Ok, sorry for that.  im never ignored in here.  I am just feeling down.  You all rock, I did not expect an answer, maybe I did, my husband does not want me to go back to the funeral parlour to work anymore.  Its a sore issue here, so maybe I just wanted you all to say wow what a grat job you are doing, I dunno.  We are so broke, and cleaning motels kills me physically, I cant do it nay more. 

I couldn't do the funeral parlor work...but have great respect for those who can. Many years ago my husband lost his job and I cleaned houses...eeekkkk...I think  could take the motel cleaning before some of those bitchyass women who expect me to be a slave.

Also I love your sig about Johnny Cash...he and June were amazing, down to earth people who gave so much of themselves. I knew both of them and they made me a better person just knowing them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 10:43:23 AM
gonna try and clean this up a bit...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                      Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.  The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.  Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”

For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS


yep, working on an insanity defense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

No


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: TxLady2 on January 14, 2009, 10:45:31 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::

I agree with you, I've asked the same thing. And believe me... the TH's on NG and other shows are NOT helping the prosecution by continually saying that DC was "just feet away from the body." If he was that close, he would have found it, doncha think?
Personally, I don't believe it was the same bag that Kronk saw in Aug. But LP said he was also out there later on as well. What kept him going back to that location? And if there were numerous other bags with trash, then did he poke around in all of them? Or did he just luck out to find the exact one the remains were in?
This is just odd to me... I don't think Kronk is involved with it to the extent that he moved the body to that location or anything... but I want to know the details of WHY he was in that particular spot.
As for the video... I don't think it will help the defense that much, but I sure don't think it proves that the A's KNEW where Caylee's body was... unless parts of that video show him actually opening the bag that the remains were in. And if that were the case, then he would be in trouble for not reporting this to LE immediately.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lucinda on January 14, 2009, 10:45:48 AM

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.

thank you so much anothermonkey
you know what im talking about.  Someone has to do it, doesnt make you a morticia adams  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Like my hubby thinks of me.  It repulses him so much, also, he hates anything I persue an interest in, re murder cases.  He is a good man, but just does not understand my passions with murder, victims of crime and my obsessive compulsive attitude towards justice for caylee.  Good night, Im really going now, you all cheered me up heaps. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 10:46:30 AM
Casey could have been going down that dirt road, and then sneaking into the backyard of the abandoned house. There is so much junk back there, how would even notice. There is more to this house, that we don't know yet. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 10:47:04 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.


It could more inconspicuously be walked to from the Anthony's...  Isn't Casey seen out jogging and such?  It wouldn't be unusual to see someone jogging around the grassy areas, as it is better than jogging on asphalt or concrete.  She could slip in the back, more than likely and the neighbors may have never known.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Sunny!!!!!! It's always good to see you! Yep, smoke screen for sure..LE has continually remained focused and I am so grateful and truly believe they are sitting on ready to start the trial and prove they are not the bumbling idiot's they have been portrayed as by the otherside.. We should have a huge Monkey Fest here on the board immediatly after the sentencing..Can anyone say Party? ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:48:37 AM


I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::

ahahahaha...now that's funny!! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: always 1 on January 14, 2009, 10:49:23 AM
Is Casey really standing around screaming to the other inmates??   That doesnet seem like her style.  Is she really trying to act crazy or just trying to fit in so she wont get the crud beat our of her when she is put amongst them????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

And I thank you...I am terrible with the maps and the pings...but this one is so clear and leaves nothing to imagine or guess at!  Klaas you are de BOMB!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:51:49 AM

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.

thank you so much anothermonkey
you know what im talking about.  Someone has to do it, doesnt make you a morticia adams  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Like my hubby thinks of me.  It repulses him so much, also, he hates anything I persue an interest in, re murder cases.  He is a good man, but just does not understand my passions with murder, victims of crime and my obsessive compulsive attitude towards justice for caylee.  Good night, Im really going now, you all cheered me up heaps. 

I'm sorry your husband doesn't get where you're coming from.  HUGS!!  You do have people here you can talk to, though.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 14, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
The Ants will never have a funeral service for Caylee...they know as soon as they do that LE will bear down on them...possible arrests in the future????  I think I even remember reading that somewhere.  Anybody remember?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: theboyzmom on January 14, 2009, 10:52:22 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.
KitKat, That's it!!! That is why the Scamthonys haven't visited!! They talk to her when JB goes to the jail...  ::MonkeyRoll::

No - I think they mean JAIL CELL not cell phone. But I could be wrong - it has happened before!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 14, 2009, 10:52:30 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

Lucinda, I felt like I was being ignored last night. Hugs to you. I could never do what you were doing for a living. Hugs to you. Sorry I can't post more as I am at work and would like to keep my job.  JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:53:29 AM
Is Casey really standing around screaming to the other inmates??   That doesnet seem like her style.  Is she really trying to act crazy or just trying to fit in so she wont get the crud beat our of her when she is put amongst them????

If you're the wackjob who yells about getting pregnant in a prison full of women, I'd think most would leave you alone. In fact, you might not even have to worry about what happens if you drop the soap.  ::MonkeyWink::  (Of course she probably showers seperately.... darnit!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 10:53:46 AM


I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.

“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::

ahahahaha...now that's funny!! 



I wish someone would go up and slap the pi** out of her, seriously. I would send them money for commissary.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 10:54:48 AM
From Clerk of Courts (http://www.myorangeclerk.com)

1/15/2009 0900 MANUAL - HEARING ROOM 6-D ON THE SIXTH FLOOR

Wonder if this will involve the request for TES records?  Read somewhere Tim is on why to FL.

1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE
1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE

Anyone know what this means?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 10:56:18 AM
This case has caught us all up, why not others in Orlando ? Who are right there and following their " hunches " Do you think that ppl in Orlando who are aware of this case weren't keeping their eyes open and looking ? I would have if it had been near me. I would have looked at things in my 'hood with a different eye. 
Meter reader guy said that he figured a swamp was a good place to put something like that. I thought it was dry there in June ? And if the pavers were a clue ? don't know where that came from, who would have put pavers in a swamp / bog, etc as markers.
Maybe Cindy and Lee, etc did some searches and found that house tied to the name Gonzalez.
The Ants were aware that LE weren't looking for other suspects. And they decided to go that route for court. Before the child was found.       


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)


Looks like a dirt road, or perhaps a worn pathway for foot travel. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 10:57:04 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY
What I would like to know is Lois and Joy do they not have some kind of life, Joy sucking up to Cindy, and Lois fighting with Cindy, and both of them have kids to take care of. ::MonkeyConfused::

Both seem to me to be women who crave attention and are not getting it...or so they think


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 10:58:52 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.
KitKat, That's it!!! That is why the Scamthonys haven't visited!! They talk to her when JB goes to the jail...  ::MonkeyRoll::

No - I think they mean JAIL CELL not cell phone. But I could be wrong - it has happened before!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


well duh, that is why i shouldn't post in the morning....LOL  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone  in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.
KitKat, That's it!!! That is why the Scamthonys haven't visited!! They talk to her when JB goes to the jail...  ::MonkeyRoll::

No - I think they mean JAIL CELL not cell phone. But I could be wrong - it has happened before!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I highlighted in red what I was referring to boyzmom.. I really think Baez is letting her use his phone to get around the recorded visitations..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: theboyzmom on January 14, 2009, 10:59:26 AM
From Clerk of Courts (http://www.myorangeclerk.com)

1/15/2009 0900 MANUAL - HEARING ROOM 6-D ON THE SIXTH FLOOR

Wonder if this will involve the request for TES records?  Read somewhere Tim is on why to FL.

1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE
1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE

Anyone know what this means?

It would appear that part of her record in jail has been filed with the court - could be anything from misbehavior to records from having her brought into court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 10:59:30 AM

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.

It sure does.....and what would many families do without them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 10:59:39 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Sounds to me like they are pulling for access to tapes of recorded phone conversation, recorded letters sent, or recorded jailhouse visits.

Perhaps they are getting her phone log in order to see if she called D. Casey at any point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Baez did make a comment that names that we have not heard of yet will come out at trial. I think Russ is on to something thinking that abandoned house and the people involved with this house, might be part of the defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:01:59 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Sounds to me like they are pulling for access to tapes of recorded phone conversation, recorded letters sent, or recorded jailhouse visits.

Perhaps they are getting her phone log in order to see if she called D. Casey at any point.

Oh, ok! Thanks, that certainly makes more sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:02:22 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?

Yes

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1409jan14,0,787726.story

Deputy Sheriff Richard Cain was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening telephone call in March 2007, but that allegation was deemed unfounded, the sheriff's report showed. The outcome of a similar complaint against him in December 2006 was not available Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:04:07 AM
This case has caught us all up, why not others in Orlando ? Who are right there and following their " hunches " Do you think that ppl in Orlando who are aware of this case weren't keeping their eyes open and looking ? I would have if it had been near me. I would have looked at things in my 'hood with a different eye. 
Meter reader guy said that he figured a swamp was a good place to put something like that. I thought it was dry there in June ? And if the pavers were a clue ? don't know where that came from, who would have put pavers in a swamp / bog, etc as markers.
Maybe Cindy and Lee, etc did some searches and found that house tied to the name Gonzalez.
The Ants were aware that LE weren't looking for other suspects. And they decided to go that route for court. Before the child was found.       


I agree.  I think they found that house and the oddly peculiar situation that seems to match some of Casey's imaginary Nanny and were waiting til court to bring it up.  I think this is why Baez wanted the tips, because he can say they DIDN'T follow up on this one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?

I beleive that's the one they just released the name of, Richard "Rich" Cain. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 11:05:34 AM


Feces-tossing monkey on the loose in Tampa area
ASSOCIATED PRESS • January 14, 2009

 Buzz up! CLEARWATER — A monkey is on the loose in Tampa Bay.


CC..    it's not polite to brag.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

But mine don't stink.
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 11:05:36 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Sounds to me like they are pulling for access to tapes of recorded phone conversation, recorded letters sent, or recorded jailhouse visits.

Perhaps they are getting her phone log in order to see if she called D. Casey at any point.

Oh, ok! Thanks, that certainly makes more sense!
I do not know that for sure, was just makin a guess and throwin it out there given all that we know is going on so far with this case.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: TxLady2 on January 14, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
I woke up this morning and something was bothering me.  Cindy is a total idiot.  She said in that email to Lois that Casey is innocent, BUT sometime yesterday tv was playing that clip of Casey saying to Lee to look at places FAMILIAR to us and our family. So then why would the invisible nanny take Caylee to places familiar to the family or would even know places familiar to the family and Lee and Casey if Casey really wanted anyone to believe her cockin bull story. And Cindy still believes this crap. 
I dislike Cindy just as much as the next guy.  I honestly think the only reason why she is continuing to back up her daughter even after all this has come out, is simply because she has something to lose if she DID NOT back her up. 
The Anthony's are NOT a loving bunch, not in the very least bit.  They are a group of individuals called a "family" yet are only out for each their own selves.  Cindy and George both have profitted off of Caylees demise, Lee has gotten a piece of cake from it all too....
Cindy will not ever admit what her daughter has done, no matter what you throw at her, she has to be the victim, Cindy MUST be the victim...its how Cindy is.  Her world has always and will always revolve around her.  Where do you think Casey gets her mentality from?
Cindy is and will continue to be the next victim of Casey, and that is alright with Cindy as she HOPES to get the "pitty party money fest" that comes with it.


If Cindy even gave clues that she thought CASEY was guilty, guess what that would do to Baez' defense.  I am thinking that the lawyers have some say so as to what she is saying.

Sorry, I didnt get scrolled down far enough on previous post. 

I agree... the A's can't go public and admit that Casey killed Caylee, and I'm sure they have been advised to not talk about their feelings in public. Besides that, how many parents would go on national t.v. and tell the world that their child is a cold-blooded killer? How many parents would so readily turn against their child in public? I might in my mind and in my heart, come to hate them for what they did... but I would not tell the rest of the world how I felt. It's called "saving face", something my parents and grandparents used to talk about when I was growing up. You might have a lot of dirty little secrets within your own family, but you keep them to yourself, you don't go announcing it to the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:06:33 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 11:06:34 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Sunny!!!!!! It's always good to see you! Yep, smoke screen for sure..LE has continually remained focused and I am so grateful and truly believe they are sitting on ready to start the trial and prove they are not the bumbling idiot's they have been portrayed as by the otherside.. We should have a huge Monkey Fest here on the board immediatly after the sentencing..Can anyone say Party? ::MonkeyHaHa::

We should write a letter or take out space to thank all the LE and prosecutors and media who worked so diligently to see that Caylee got justice!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)

Here's the birdseye view of this area:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6hs86v8ts&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

I don't know how to do a snapshot of it, hopefully no one already posted this, I'm behind again trying to catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:08:15 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)

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Check google maps for a better more detailed picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 11:08:18 AM

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.

thank you so much anothermonkey
you know what im talking about.  Someone has to do it, doesnt make you a morticia adams  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Like my hubby thinks of me.  It repulses him so much, also, he hates anything I persue an interest in, re murder cases.  He is a good man, but just does not understand my passions with murder, victims of crime and my obsessive compulsive attitude towards justice for caylee.  Good night, Im really going now, you all cheered me up heaps. 

Most of the people who I've met - who work at funeral homes  and do mortuary work - have the biggest hearts in the world.  God Bless every one of them!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:08:43 AM
Its Ok, sorry for that.  im never ignored in here.  I am just feeling down.  You all rock, I did not expect an answer, maybe I did, my husband does not want me to go back to the funeral parlour to work anymore.  Its a sore issue here, so maybe I just wanted you all to say wow what a grat job you are doing, I dunno.  We are so broke, and cleaning motels kills me physically, I cant do it nay more. 

Sorry you're feeling down, Lucinda.  I read and enjoy your posts--I'm always just so behind these days that I don't respond much.  Hope your job situation gets better soon.  Your interesting Aussie perspective is welcome, and I hope you'll be around!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:08:47 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Sounds to me like they are pulling for access to tapes of recorded phone conversation, recorded letters sent, or recorded jailhouse visits.

Perhaps they are getting her phone log in order to see if she called D. Casey at any point.

Oh, ok! Thanks, that certainly makes more sense!
I do not know that for sure, was just makin a guess and throwin it out there given all that we know is going on so far with this case.

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Dolce - it looks like that Heathers Animations site doesn't allow direct links.  I saved to my PC then uploaded in photobucket.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 11:09:04 AM
Baez did make a comment that names that we have not heard of yet will come out at trial. I think Russ is on to something thinking that abandoned house and the people involved with this house, might be part of the defense.

That would be good to find out everything about the house for the past few years.
When did ppl actually live there.
Anyone have a picture of the whole house, all the way around it?
If it was boarded up or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
From Clerk of Courts (http://www.myorangeclerk.com)

1/15/2009 0900 MANUAL - HEARING ROOM 6-D ON THE SIXTH FLOOR

Wonder if this will involve the request for TES records?  Read somewhere Tim is on why to FL.

1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE
1/8/2009 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE

Anyone know what this means?

I haven't a clue on either


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:09:12 AM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)

Here's the birdseye view of this area:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6hs86v8ts&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

I don't know how to do a snapshot of it, hopefully no one already posted this, I'm behind again trying to catch up.


Looks like a fence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CarolynV on January 14, 2009, 11:10:27 AM
Forgive me form skipping ahead, as I have not caught up yet.

My question is this, is the abandoned house close to the Anthony's and how close is it? Would the pings match? Remember
everyone saying she stayed home all night on the 15th, and the pings matched? Could she have been holed up in this abandoned house all night texting Tony?

Thanks everyone and Good Morning!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 11:10:50 AM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2009, 11:11:47 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?
::MonkeyHaHa:: I don't think you should do that here in front of everyone. I have a real monkey pic of that too..  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 11:12:10 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

Lucinda, I felt like I was being ignored last night. Hugs to you. I could never do what you were doing for a living. Hugs to you. Sorry I can't post more as I am at work and would like to keep my job.  JSM

I think we all have days when we feel like we're being ignored.  I know I do.  Especially when there is a lot of info coming out - like last night.   HUGS to both of you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:12:54 AM
I went to find the guests for NG tonight, because talk on another forum say Lois is going to be a guest. I'm not sure but it looked like the meter reader will be on tonight, or they are talking about the meter reader tonight. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 11:13:27 AM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   

Nope.  You can travel freely to PR and back - no passport needed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 11:14:36 AM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book. 


Lucinda,you sound like you have done some interesting work.The job of a profiler fascinates me.If it is your dream you should go for it.I would love to watch you go toe to toe with some of the clowns in this case.
I miss things here too.Some go right over my head.I don't have alot to add most of the time but I really enjoy it here.Hope I see you in the morning.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 11:15:35 AM


Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)
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I wonder if this house was searched by LE...I am thinking it was.....I seem to remember something early on about an abandoned house in the neighboorhood being searched.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 11:16:06 AM
I went to find the guests for NG tonight, because talk on another forum say Lois is going to be a guest. I'm not sure but it looked like the meter reader will be on tonight, or they are talking about the meter reader tonight. ::MonkeyConfused::

I hope not.   Remember when Lois was called to go on the Today Show - but it never happened? 

She needs to stay away from C&G, for Dakota's sake.   good grief.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
I went to find the guests for NG tonight, because talk on another forum say Lois is going to be a guest. I'm not sure but it looked like the meter reader will be on tonight, or they are talking about the meter reader tonight. ::MonkeyConfused::

I hope not.   Remember when Lois was called to go on the Today Show - but it never happened? 

She needs to stay away from C&G, for Dakota's sake.   good grief.
I agree, so does Joy.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.
And who knows better than anyone when a house is abandoned? Meter readers? Just saying.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
What sets that house off as being ABANDONED ? Are the windows boaded up ?
When a house is abandoned here, the windows are boarded up and only in the worst slums area ppl break in and squat. ( stay warm , drink, drugs  etc. )
Would only the ppl in the neighbourhood know that the family had gone to PR ? 
If the house is maintained and the mortgage paid, the owners can go elsewhere for a while without a sinister reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 14, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
Is Casey really standing around screaming to the other inmates??   That doesnet seem like her style.  Is she really trying to act crazy or just trying to fit in so she wont get the crud beat our of her when she is put amongst them????

Enquiring minds want to know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:19:33 AM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   


Someone should check to see if these folks moved from North Carolina to Florida at Brackenwood drive.  Now that would explain 3 things Casey said when weaving real people in.  North Carolina.  New York City (the house was purchased by the Gonzalez's from another Gonzalez in New York City.  I also see a connection to New Jersey.

Anyone have a good clue how to track them to North Carolina.

I did a zaba search and I found the New Jersey connection.  I wonder if perhaps the wife of Hernan has a North Carolina connection.  I have the deed transfer information on another computer that I am not near at this point so I forgot that name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:19:42 AM
Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

::MonkeyConfused:: Anymonkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


I can explain what I sense the defense was going to do.

They found a Gonzalez that recently moved to Puerto Rico that was near the Anthony home, probably from a tip of some type.  A neighbor perhaps.  They may have wanted to introduce during the defense explanations of a possible Gonzalez Nanny that fled the country.  Now, the tape may be nothing they bring to court, but still photos of how the police did not search the premises would be.  I think this was the plan to turn at least one juror.  I have to say it is quite odd that a Gonzalez family moved to Puerto Rico so close to the Anthonys sometime in the last year according to neighbors, and that family bought this home from another Gonzalez single woman in NYC.
And who knows better than anyone when a house is abandoned? Meter readers? Just saying.....
::MonkeyEek:: That is for sure, now something else to think about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 11:21:26 AM
Whoa.  Lucinda, I read everything but I only remember you writing about how hot is is there and I thought, gosh, I have always wanted to go there but I can stand to be hot.  Anything over 70 is way too hot for me.  Can you believe Im up this early????  Already had two cups of coffee.  Now Ill go back and read what else you wrote.
I can not believe you are up this early.  Nordstrom must be having a huge sale.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Riley on January 14, 2009, 11:24:20 AM
I'm sure this has been talked about, but it will take me months to catch up.  I'm just now reading the forensic report and I have a question.  There were some that said that the detection of chloroform in the car by the body farm could be just from decomposition. (I know, I know, not in the amounts found!  Just one of the talking heads somewhere)  So my question is the fact that the FBI found residues of chloroform and no presence of other chemicals on the left and right side liners and tire covers proof that actual chloroform was used and knock out the ridiculous defense spew?  What causes the residue?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 11:24:25 AM
Good morning Monkeys.. ::MonkeyDance::

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted... ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Sunny!!!!!! It's always good to see you! Yep, smoke screen for sure..LE has continually remained focused and I am so grateful and truly believe they are sitting on ready to start the trial and prove they are not the bumbling idiot's they have been portrayed as by the otherside.. We should have a huge Monkey Fest here on the board immediatly after the sentencing..Can anyone say Party? ::MonkeyHaHa::

We should write a letter or take out space to thank all the LE and prosecutors and media who worked so diligently to see that Caylee got justice!! ::MonkeyDance::

I agree!!!! We could all chip in and send them a huge monkey basket of goodies too!!! After-all,we have been on the same side from the very beginning....Unforgettable Monkey basket!! I'd so get in on something like that!!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 11:25:42 AM
Its Ok, sorry for that.  im never ignored in here.  I am just feeling down.  You all rock, I did not expect an answer, maybe I did, my husband does not want me to go back to the funeral parlour to work anymore.  Its a sore issue here, so maybe I just wanted you all to say wow what a grat job you are doing, I dunno.  We are so broke, and cleaning motels kills me physically, I cant do it nay more. 

 :smt052  Us monkeys are always here for you Lucinda.Please don't be sad. I'll make my best face for you......  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 11:28:24 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
If anyone "sees" Lucinda, can you let her know I left her a note in muslings?  She's never online when I'm here. Maybe she'll read back & see.TIA.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4248.msg626134#msg626134

lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 11:28:54 AM
This is part of the video at the vacant house - that shows the bags were still there.
In case you guys haven't seen it yet.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=house_right.flv


Thanks, that's good to know.  So Kathy Belich was wrong and at least some of the bags are still there:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/th_house_right.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=house_right.flv)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/bagshouse.jpg)
Interesting that the bags were moved since Nov15/16 to the other side of the house. Why not put out for trash pickup? Didn't DC or Hoover say they were leaves? Who would move them when the house still has things in it? Has anyone checked if these people owned the house or just rented?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 11:31:33 AM
What sets that house off as being ABANDONED ? Are the windows boaded up ?
When a house is abandoned here, the windows are boarded up and only in the worst slums area ppl break in and squat. ( stay warm , drink, drugs  etc. )
Would only the ppl in the neighbourhood know that the family had gone to PR ? 
If the house is maintained and the mortgage paid, the owners can go elsewhere for a while without a sinister reason.

We have houses here that are boarded up but not all. A few months ago my mother in law noticed a house that no one lived at. Every time we drove  by this house it was always empty. The yard was never maintained. We decided to stop and get out and look around. Clearly there was no one living there but there were no for sale/rent signs. We walked all around that house and even peeped in the windows. No neighbors ever came out to take a look to see what was going on or anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 11:31:52 AM
Okay, let me see if I got this straight...

Psychic says it came to her in a dream early on the 15th
Psychic calls D Casey at 3:00 am on the 15th to tell him where to look
D Casey says he is on the phone with the psychic at 9:15 am on the 15th. (his latest story, anyways)

with me so far????

How come D Casey calls Hoover on the 14th, telling him to come to his office on the morning of the 15th so that they can go get Caylee, who is dead?

His next story will be that he had a vision that a psychic would call him in the middle of the night telling him where to look, and that he had better call Hoover now so that he will be ready to go with him.


 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I didn't know he called on the 14th nov'08.
Did he have an explanation of this yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bowtiegirl on January 14, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!



Nicely said! What a wonderful thing you are doing for the search for Adja.  Any news on him?

Someone needs to be arrested for tampering w/evidence, obstruction of justice and this circus will stop!  This is so bizarre!  I can't even focus on anything anymore.  I can't sleep at night...not paying my bills...sick all the time ....and I am driving my hubby mad with "hogging" the tv news.  I just realized that I stayed logged to S.M.  all night. (i stayed up lurking and researching til i couldn't stand it anymore)...It is now going on noon and I'm still trapped in this realm of sadness and disbelief ...It like a terrible nightmare that you just can't wakeup from!   I'm going to go and get busy and do some important things, like telling my kids and grandchildren how much I love them (yeah, and pay some bills)...Hope everyone is having a good day!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
Forgive me form skipping ahead, as I have not caught up yet.

My question is this, is the abandoned house close to the Anthony's and how close is it? Would the pings match? Remember
everyone saying she stayed home all night on the 15th, and the pings matched? Could she have been holed up in this abandoned house all night texting Tony?

Thanks everyone and Good Morning!

It's close, almost as close as the location on Suburban where Caylee's body was found.  I believe the pings would be the same.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/maphope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/brackenwoodmap.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 11:38:34 AM
OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1



Tks for the pic's.
I was way off in my thinking.
Thought it was like in the middle of the forest/trees/weeds....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 14, 2009, 11:38:49 AM
What sets that house off as being ABANDONED ? Are the windows boaded up ?
When a house is abandoned here, the windows are boarded up and only in the worst slums area ppl break in and squat. ( stay warm , drink, drugs  etc. )
Would only the ppl in the neighbourhood know that the family had gone to PR ? 
If the house is maintained and the mortgage paid, the owners can go elsewhere for a while without a sinister reason.

Kat, did you look at the pix the girl from W/S that went to the house with Kathy Belich posted? I followed the link from W/S to where she had posted them. From the front side of the house, the lawn was mowed and there didn't look like anything strange, or empty, about the house. It had a solid-type fence on one side that parted like a gate (I think) and when they shot through the crack, the whole backyard of the place was grown-up about 3 ft. high with all sorts of junk strewn everywhere. Belich decided to go into the backyard and they photographed the porch, etc. More disaster with trash everywhere, pepsi machines, junk, etc. There was a sliding glass door off the porch to the interior that had no curtain, but when it was photographed, you really couldn't tell much because of the glare off the glass, but there were a few feet inside at the bottom shown that looked like it was filled with junk like outside. From the rear, the house certainly did not look inhabited and most people would term it abandoned from what I saw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 14, 2009, 11:40:12 AM
good night monkeys, sorry I poured my heart out and it got ignored, can klass or red delete it please.  I will refrain from doing it again.

Lucinda, I felt like I was being ignored last night. Hugs to you. I could never do what you were doing for a living. Hugs to you. Sorry I can't post more as I am at work and would like to keep my job.  JSM

I think we all have days when we feel like we're being ignored.  I know I do.  Especially when there is a lot of info coming out - like last night.   HUGS to both of you!
Aww that's sweet sassy. Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 11:41:10 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?
::MonkeyHaHa:: I don't think you should do that here in front of everyone. I have a real monkey pic of that too..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

You're probably right.  It was enough seeing Sea Searcher in the shower yesterday. ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:41:35 AM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 11:42:06 AM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 14, 2009, 11:44:56 AM
Good Morning/Afternoon Monkeys!!!!!

Sea Searcher:  Try to stay out of trouble!!!!!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
What sets that house off as being ABANDONED ? Are the windows boaded up ?
When a house is abandoned here, the windows are boarded up and only in the worst slums area ppl break in and squat. ( stay warm , drink, drugs  etc. )
Would only the ppl in the neighbourhood know that the family had gone to PR ? 
If the house is maintained and the mortgage paid, the owners can go elsewhere for a while without a sinister reason.

Kat, did you look at the pix the girl from W/S that went to the house with Kathy Belich posted? I followed the link from W/S to where she had posted them. From the front side of the house, the lawn was mowed and there didn't look like anything strange, or empty, about the house. It had a solid-type fence on one side that parted like a gate (I think) and when they shot through the crack, the whole backyard of the place was grown-up about 3 ft. high with all sorts of junk strewn everywhere. Belich decided to go into the backyard and they photographed the porch, etc. More disaster with trash everywhere, pepsi machines, junk, etc. There was a sliding glass door off the porch to the interior that had no curtain, but when it was photographed, you really couldn't tell much because of the glare off the glass, but there were a few feet inside at the bottom shown that looked like it was filled with junk like outside. From the rear, the house certainly did not look inhabited and most people would term it abandoned from what I saw.


neighbors may have been mowing the front yard because it was so unsightly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 11:47:29 AM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   
No


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kcrn on January 14, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!



Nicely said! What a wonderful thing you are doing for the search for Adja.  Any news on him?

Someone needs to be arrested for tampering w/evidence, obstruction of justice and this circus will stop!  This is so bizarre!  I can't even focus on anything anymore.  I can't sleep at night...not paying my bills...sick all the time ....and I am driving my hubby mad with "hogging" the tv news.  I just realized that I stayed logged to S.M.  all night. (i stayed up lurking and researching til i couldn't stand it anymore)...It is now going on noon and I'm still trapped in this realm of sadness and disbelief ...It like a terrible nightmare that you just can't wakeup from!   I'm going to go and get busy and do some important things, like telling my kids and grandchildren how much I love them (yeah, and pay some bills)...Hope everyone is having a good day!
all i can think is MY GOD CANT ANYONE TELL THE TRUTH!?!?!?  We dont expect Casey to tell the truth, shes just evil, but how can there be so many dishonest, evil people involved in this case? How can these people live with themselves and not come forward with what they really know for the sake of this poor childs memory and justice for her?People are attaching themselves to this case right and left and I just dont get it. The psychic on NG last night for one. Finding it hard to believe that she was on the phone with DC yet her phone records dont show the call. Any of them?!? She said she left him a message at 3 in the am and then was actively talking to him at the time of the search, yet conveniently, those calls are not on the records? Come on! what does she have to gain? Some air time and getting her name out there? Without phone records, all she is doing is making herself look less than credible, less than honest and just plain stupid. Is the fame and money these people are expecting really worth the life of this poor baby? How can one family manage to find every piece of scum within a 10 mile radius? Because they themselves are scum. Cindy continues to stand by her daughter and says she would never harm her? I thought for a fraction of a second, by their unusual silence, that she was finally accepting the truth. These people arent grieving, they did that months ago when they found out the truth and then proceeded to go into cover up mode. Can one player in this game go to bed and wake up with a conscience and tell the truth about what they know?!?! My heart hurts for this little girl and the fact that noone loved her enough to stand up for her and make sure she gets justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 11:52:21 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hopebreckfense.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 11:52:42 AM
snipped from the transcript of NG last night:

CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: I know in my gut, I know with every ounce of my being that we will be with her again.

just wondering when she said this, people that have lost a loved one will say this.  if it was before Caylee was found it is very telling


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 11:54:05 AM
So much crap has come out over the past few weeks in regards to this case that it is all quite overwhelming and difficult to keep up with.  What a smorgusboard of chaos, you know that Baez has got to be loving the confussion.  Fingers are being pointed every which way BUT THE RIGHT WAY.  Hell has obviously frozen over because the Anthony's are no longer in the spotlight even after countless accusations and a huge cloud of doubt sits upon them. 
I have just one question...where is Caylee in all of this?  Has everyone involved in this case thus far, I say "thus far", forgotten that we are talking about a little 2 year old child who's very life was cut short by her own mother?  How dare they try and profit off of the circus and the videos and the interviews....they ALL are JUST AS BAD as the Anthonys!



Nicely said! What a wonderful thing you are doing for the search for Adja.  Any news on him?

Someone needs to be arrested for tampering w/evidence, obstruction of justice and this circus will stop!  This is so bizarre!  I can't even focus on anything anymore.  I can't sleep at night...not paying my bills...sick all the time ....and I am driving my hubby mad with "hogging" the tv news.  I just realized that I stayed logged to S.M.  all night. (i stayed up lurking and researching til i couldn't stand it anymore)...It is now going on noon and I'm still trapped in this realm of sadness and disbelief ...It like a terrible nightmare that you just can't wakeup from!   I'm going to go and get busy and do some important things, like telling my kids and grandchildren how much I love them (yeah, and pay some bills)...Hope everyone is having a good day!

I can relate to these feelings. I decided to try to cut down on the time I spend glued to the case once I heard about Kronk's photo licensing fee. I just said, "Forget it. Way too many people are profiting from this poor little girl's death." I just hope she is laid to rest soon. She needs to be buried properly with people praying over her and for her. She needs to "sent off," so to speak, with love and respect. I really can't wait anymore for that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 11:54:13 AM
Did Deputy Mishandle Tip In Caylee Case?

 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/14/did_deputy_mishandle_tip_in_caylee_case.html)
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:36:26 AM

ORLANDO -- A new report criticizes an Orange County deputy for the way he handled an August tip regarding Caylee Anthony's remains.
   
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Richard Cain was the deputy who investigated meter reader Roy Kronk's tips about a bag in a wooded area back in August.
   
Caylee's remains were found in that same spot in December.
   
The sheriff's office is conducting an internal investigation into the incident, but reports requested by the media show Cain was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening phone call in 2007, and a similar complaint was made against him in 2006.
   
The sheriff's office said at the time the complaints were unfounded.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 14, 2009, 11:55:10 AM
Good Morning,

Ok, I have to vent about this!

Wasn't it Todd Black who made the famous, "loss of life" comment to the media in October 08? Then he quickly ammended it. Someone KNEW something then. I have a hard time believing that the defense team doesn't know something.


I agree!  I also recall the fax/letter to LE in regards to if Caylee was dead it could have been an accident.  I can't remember the details though. 

Hi Grandma2Maddie,

"IF"   it were an accident, then I would have to agree with the guys from Prime News, Why didn't she show any emotion? My gosh, when I accidentally kill a ladybug, I get weepy. I don't buy the defense saying, "Well, everyone grieves differently."  

Grief is a process. There are 7 stages.  
Listed below for anyone who needs a refresher. I'd like to know what stage of GRIEF she IS   in. As far as I know, she's been high fiving, eating chocolates, renting movies, partying with hot girls, making goo goo eyes at several men all since Caylee "disappeared."   I'd really like to know how this is going to fly with a jury.

The defense can yammer on about "circumstancial"   evidence all they want, bottom line: a jury will want someone to pay for this crime, CASEY is the ONLY suspect, the only one with intent, the only one with pre-meditation. Who knows if she will do life or get death. Either way, she will be beaten daily in prison or she will get out and someone will "Accidentally" kill her. Her life is OVER.

TO JOSE BAEZ-BTW-Darlie Routier tried to use this grief theory at her trial. She sprayed silly string at her son's grave only a few days after he died because it was his birthday. She was convicted and is now on Texas' Death Row.  

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING-Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN-As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.



It's important to note that these stages don't go in a perfect line, and sometimes people back up and repeat one or jump forward briefly to a stage they're not ready for only to go back. It's pretty obvious that Casey hasn't been grieving at all, whatsoever, when you look at these stages.

But anyone with half an eye looking at these stages, can see that Cindy has been.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 11:56:18 AM

Kat, did you look at the pix the girl from W/S that went to the house with Kathy Belich posted? I followed the link from W/S to where she had posted them. From the front side of the house, the lawn was mowed and there didn't look like anything strange, or empty, about the house. It had a solid-type fence on one side that parted like a gate (I think) and when they shot through the crack, the whole backyard of the place was grown-up about 3 ft. high with all sorts of junk strewn everywhere. Belich decided to go into the backyard and they photographed the porch, etc. More disaster with trash everywhere, pepsi machines, junk, etc. There was a sliding glass door off the porch to the interior that had no curtain, but when it was photographed, you really couldn't tell much because of the glare off the glass, but there were a few feet inside at the bottom shown that looked like it was filled with junk like outside. From the rear, the house certainly did not look inhabited and most people would term it abandoned from what I saw.
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TY, I hadn't gone to WS. I hardly ever go there. Figure it will make its way here to Monkey Central if it's any good. I just went to Fox Orlando blog sped read the posts and there was nothing of any interest today. Pretty sure the entire situation with that house and that family will have to be looked at and nailed down before her trial. Or LP will get the inside scoop before that. He has the resources being a bounty hunter. I am so glad that LP called the FBI when he heard what Hoover had. From a trial standpoint, this coulda been baaaad.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 11:56:33 AM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.
Thanks!  Some how I got pinned as the one who added it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  I think QM is actually the one who found it.....::hint hint::  JUST KIDDING QM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hopebreckfense.jpg)

I know we can't tell but even if there is a fence, I would be certain that there are openings or breaks along side the fence in different areas. I am almost sure they wouldn't have it completely blocked off. It's just my guess, but I'm pretty sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on January 14, 2009, 11:57:09 AM
I am about 15 pages behind today, never did catch up last night, lol.  I was just looking of the birdseye view of the map of where that house is and the comment that Klass made that it looks like a road going in to the backside of it,  I got to thinking, Suburban drive and hopespring drive connect right there where that path is.  Suburban is where the school is, it might be a path that the kids take to walk home from school so as they don't have to go all the way around.  There possibley might be gates in the back of some of those houses to let the kids get through.  Just thinkin, ya know ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
Thank-you QuietMonkey ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:57:25 AM
I went to find the guests for NG tonight, because talk on another forum say Lois is going to be a guest. I'm not sure but it looked like the meter reader will be on tonight, or they are talking about the meter reader tonight. ::MonkeyConfused::

Dude, are you serious?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  UGH!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?
::MonkeyHaHa:: I don't think you should do that here in front of everyone. I have a real monkey pic of that too..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

You're probably right.  It was enough seeing Sea Searcher in the shower yesterday. ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::
OMG EW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 11:59:33 AM
OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again **


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 11:59:50 AM
I went to find the guests for NG tonight, because talk on another forum say Lois is going to be a guest. I'm not sure but it looked like the meter reader will be on tonight, or they are talking about the meter reader tonight. ::MonkeyConfused::

Dude, are you serious?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  UGH!!
I'm trying to find out if this is true, if it is true it would have to be about those emails btw her and Cindy, otherwise what else could she contribute? ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 11:59:59 AM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.

I don't see the detail listing it added May 2008 - where is it at?  If so, that is even more peculiar.  Premediated.  Now if we can know where it was added from..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 12:00:49 PM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   
No
TY, I am in Canada and I do need one for both places. Well, for everywhere these post 9/11 days. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
Klaas I think it is a fence.  Down here there is a law that homes with pools must have a fence and/or be screened in.  Given that this is a manmade pond to meet code standards for drainage to usage, the county may have put up the safety fence as it is a neighborhood.  Not saying that all communities do that down here, many are changed into "lakes", but this is clearly a retention type pond so they fenced it in.....MOO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
I am about 15 pages behind today, never did catch up last night, lol.  I was just looking of the birdseye view of the map of where that house is and the comment that Klass made that it looks like a road going in to the backside of it,  I got to thinking, Suburban drive and hopespring drive connect right there where that path is.  Suburban is where the school is, it might be a path that the kids take to walk home from school so as they don't have to go all the way around.  There possibley might be gates in the back of some of those houses to let the kids get through.  Just thinkin, ya know ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyWink::

I just looked, and if you follow brackenwood to the end (culdesac)it has a side walk leading right to the school. So I'm sure all the kids in that neighborhood would walk that way to school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:04:11 PM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.

I don't see the detail listing it added May 2008 - where is it at?  If so, that is even more peculiar.  Premediated.  Now if we can know where it was added from..........
Hey thanks you guys!  That clears me completely..LOL  (I know that was not my real concern)
Does add to the pre-meditation if it was from the Anthony's home.  Whitepages should have an IP address or some sort of signature...right?? 
If it was a Whitepages sort of inquiry maybe the LE techs did not think it was relevant at the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 14, 2009, 12:05:04 PM

Kat, did you look at the pix the girl from W/S that went to the house with Kathy Belich posted? I followed the link from W/S to where she had posted them. From the front side of the house, the lawn was mowed and there didn't look like anything strange, or empty, about the house. It had a solid-type fence on one side that parted like a gate (I think) and when they shot through the crack, the whole backyard of the place was grown-up about 3 ft. high with all sorts of junk strewn everywhere. Belich decided to go into the backyard and they photographed the porch, etc. More disaster with trash everywhere, pepsi machines, junk, etc. There was a sliding glass door off the porch to the interior that had no curtain, but when it was photographed, you really couldn't tell much because of the glare off the glass, but there were a few feet inside at the bottom shown that looked like it was filled with junk like outside. From the rear, the house certainly did not look inhabited and most people would term it abandoned from what I saw.
TY, I hadn't gone to WS. I hardly ever go there. Figure it will make its way here to Monkey Central if it's any good. I just went to Fox Orlando blog sped read the posts and there was nothing of any interest today. Pretty sure the entire situation with that house and that family will have to be looked at and nailed down before her trial. Or LP will get the inside scoop before that. He has the resources being a bounty hunter. I am so glad that LP called the FBI when he heard what Hoover had. From a trial standpoint, this coulda been baaaad.   
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Somebody (Klaas, maybe? I can't remember) on SM linked to the post on WS that was by the person who took the pix. It was on here yesterday mid-afternoon or I never would have run across the W/S post. I'm not certain what the relevance of the Pepsi machines were, but perhaps they were shown in the PI's tape? Did not see the flowerbed that PI was digging in, but maybe it was there and I missed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 12:05:09 PM
Good afternoon and morning to the Monkeys!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Just wanted to say hello.  Trying to play catch-up again.  Back to page 70 I go *sigh*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
snipped from the transcript of NG last night:

CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: I know in my gut, I know with every ounce of my being that we will be with her again.

just wondering when she said this, people that have lost a loved one will say this.  if it was before Caylee was found it is very telling

I ws thinking about this last night. She never says anything like "I feel she's still alive" or "I think she's still alive".. nothing with the word "alive". It's always "with us", "close to home", etc....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:05:44 PM
Klaas I think it is a fence.  Down here there is a law that homes with pools must have a fence and/or be screened in.  Given that this is a manmade pond to meet code standards for drainage to usage, the county may have put up the safety fence as it is a neighborhood.  Not saying that all communities do that down here, many are changed into "lakes", but this is clearly a retention type pond so they fenced it in.....MOO.

I never thought of that Dolce, you're probably right. So there probably isn't openings like I thought, or they may have some but the could have locks on them for utility people, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:06:30 PM

Somebody (Klaas, maybe? I can't remember) on SM linked to the post on WS that was by the person who took the pix. It was on here yesterday mid-afternoon or I never would have run across the W/S post. I'm not certain what the relevance of the Pepsi machines were, but perhaps they were shown in the PI's tape? Did not see the flowerbed that PI was digging in, but maybe it was there and I missed it.

I think that's why they were significant.. they were in the tape. Although I don't recall seeing one, but I might not have been paying attention. But the person who went to the house, and Kathi, both felt they were significant for whatever reason. I can't imagine why else that would be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:10:21 PM
Did Deputy Mishandle Tip In Caylee Case?

 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/14/did_deputy_mishandle_tip_in_caylee_case.html)
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:36:26 AM

ORLANDO -- A new report criticizes an Orange County deputy for the way he handled an August tip regarding Caylee Anthony's remains.
   
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Richard Cain was the deputy who investigated meter reader Roy Kronk's tips about a bag in a wooded area back in August.
   
Caylee's remains were found in that same spot in December.
   
The sheriff's office is conducting an internal investigation into the incident, but reports requested by the media show Cain was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening phone call in 2007, and a similar complaint was made against him in 2006.
   
The sheriff's office said at the time the complaints were unfounded.

I think this officer is taking a lot of heat and he shouldn't be!

  first of all KRONK was talking about  a white bag..what about this bag made him suspicious? (ummm perhaps because he was not given the correct info about the color of the bag he was supposed to be looking for...he found the marker...the white board....)

he makes his first 2 calls at 9:30 or so at night? Why wait if he is concerned? (perhaps it took him that long to get with someone to direct him)

then he meet with the officer and the officer sees nothing except trash and was looking for a suspicious WHITE bag ( uummm and did he warn the officer about the snakes)

Then he happens to go back in December and just happens to part in that spot and just happens to go pee in the swamp (knowing there are snakes out there) when in fact he could have gone to a filling station or McDonald's or any number of places.  And behold her see THE bag...although this white bag is now a black bag..

he is full of chit and it will come out ....sooner or later.......it will come out. I hope Nejame doesn't give him one red cent! JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:10:25 PM
Good Morning, and or Afternoon, Monkeys!  ::MonkeyTongue::

You guys have been busy today!

Just wanted to insert a reminder that Casey is guilty and that the case for the prosecution is "OVERWHELMING" and getting tighter all the time!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 12:11:05 PM

Somebody (Klaas, maybe? I can't remember) on SM linked to the post on WS that was by the person who took the pix. It was on here yesterday mid-afternoon or I never would have run across the W/S post. I'm not certain what the relevance of the Pepsi machines were, but perhaps they were shown in the PI's tape? Did not see the flowerbed that PI was digging in, but maybe it was there and I missed it.

I think that's why they were significant.. they were in the tape. Although I don't recall seeing one, but I might not have been paying attention. But the person who went to the house, and Kathi, both felt they were significant for whatever reason. I can't imagine why else that would be.

all of those pepsi machines seems creapy to me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:12:23 PM
This pic keeps coming to mind when I think of an abandoned home.."Party House"

(http://www.belch.com/img/caseyboohoo.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 12:14:21 PM
who is Murt?

Klaas can you post me a pic of joy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:14:25 PM
Did Deputy Mishandle Tip In Caylee Case?

 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/14/did_deputy_mishandle_tip_in_caylee_case.html)
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:36:26 AM

ORLANDO -- A new report criticizes an Orange County deputy for the way he handled an August tip regarding Caylee Anthony's remains.
   
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Richard Cain was the deputy who investigated meter reader Roy Kronk's tips about a bag in a wooded area back in August.
   
Caylee's remains were found in that same spot in December.
   
The sheriff's office is conducting an internal investigation into the incident, but reports requested by the media show Cain was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening phone call in 2007, and a similar complaint was made against him in 2006.
   
The sheriff's office said at the time the complaints were unfounded.

I think this officer is taking a lot of heat and he shouldn't be!

  first of all KRONK was talking about  a white bag..what about this bag made him suspicious? (ummm perhaps because he was not given the correct info about the color of the bag he was supposed to be looking for...he found the marker...the white board....)

he makes his first 2 calls at 9:30 or so at night? Why wait if he is concerned? (perhaps it took him that long to get with someone to direct him)

then he meet with the officer and the officer sees nothing except trash and was looking for a suspicious WHITE bag ( uummm and did he warn the officer about the snakes)

Then he happens to go back in December and just happens to part in that spot and just happens to go pee in the swamp (knowing there are snakes out there) when in fact he could have gone to a filling station or McDonald's or any number of places.  And behold her see THE bag...although this white bag is now a black bag..

he is full of chit and it will come out ....sooner or later.......it will come out. I hope Nejame doesn't give him one red cent! JMO
I'm with you, let us play blame the officer. And I did not like the fact that Kronk on GMA, had to criticize the officer by saying he was rude.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: jr on January 14, 2009, 12:14:37 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.
That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:16:49 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.
That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.
Baez never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going. Now I have to figure which one is lying, Casey or Baez. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:18:12 PM
who is Murt?

Klaas can you post me a pic of joy?
Here is Joy at the search..


(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo335/Dolce_Chic/CRAZYLADY.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 12:19:38 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.
That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.

JMO, casey lied again when they got her from her jail cell...
Probably thinking that would get her out of going to court....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 12:19:44 PM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.

I don't see the detail listing it added May 2008 - where is it at?  If so, that is even more peculiar.  Premediated.  Now if we can know where it was added from..........

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8611/whitepagescomonlinedireut1.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
who is Murt?

Klaas can you post me a pic of joy?

Murt is a private citizen, truck driver, that ran around Orlando with a video camera and audio and fed a live stream on the internet to where searches were taking place. He also recorded at places of interest as the case progressed, and there was a blog on his site where you could watch the live feed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:23:48 PM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   

I don't think you do, Kat Gram, as PR is a US territory.  Right?  Maybe I should stick to posting on things I know more about.  *crickets chirping, and not of the crotch variety*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 12:24:16 PM
IMOO
first of all let me say that i have the highest regard for law enforcement officers, but i have ran across deputies like that who are lazy or don't want to be bothered.  seems that he just glanced across the area and didn't take it seriously, didn't want to look through all of that trash.  i also have issues with Kronk....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:24:21 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:26:02 PM
Looks like the Orlando Sentinel dug up more on Kronk, he owes back child support.                http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:26:08 PM
Good Morning, and or Afternoon, Monkeys!  ::MonkeyTongue::

You guys have been busy today!

Just wanted to insert a reminder that Casey is guilty and that the case for the prosecution is "OVERWHELMING" and getting tighter all the time!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hi CBB!  Thanks for the reminder and of course you are correct!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
Sorry, somehow I messed up the link. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643

 




I think Casey said her name was Gloria.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:28:18 PM
Did Deputy Mishandle Tip In Caylee Case?

 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/14/did_deputy_mishandle_tip_in_caylee_case.html)
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:36:26 AM

ORLANDO -- A new report criticizes an Orange County deputy for the way he handled an August tip regarding Caylee Anthony's remains.
   
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Richard Cain was the deputy who investigated meter reader Roy Kronk's tips about a bag in a wooded area back in August.
   
Caylee's remains were found in that same spot in December.
   
The sheriff's office is conducting an internal investigation into the incident, but reports requested by the media show Cain was accused of failing to properly investigate a threatening phone call in 2007, and a similar complaint was made against him in 2006.
   
The sheriff's office said at the time the complaints were unfounded.

I think this officer is taking a lot of heat and he shouldn't be!

  first of all KRONK was talking about  a white bag..what about this bag made him suspicious? (ummm perhaps because he was not given the correct info about the color of the bag he was supposed to be looking for...he found the marker...the white board....)

he makes his first 2 calls at 9:30 or so at night? Why wait if he is concerned? (perhaps it took him that long to get with someone to direct him)

then he meet with the officer and the officer sees nothing except trash and was looking for a suspicious WHITE bag ( uummm and did he warn the officer about the snakes)

Then he happens to go back in December and just happens to part in that spot and just happens to go pee in the swamp (knowing there are snakes out there) when in fact he could have gone to a filling station or McDonald's or any number of places.  And behold her see THE bag...although this white bag is now a black bag..

he is full of chit and it will come out ....sooner or later.......it will come out. I hope Nejame doesn't give him one red cent! JMO
I'm with you, let us play blame the officer. And I did not like the fact that Kronk on GMA, had to criticize the officer by saying he was rude.

Same with me...and I read the officer was on the call for 45 minutes.....so it doesn't look like he just dismissed it.....and I'll bet KRONK is rude remembering his statement about ' a freaking body'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JuJu on January 14, 2009, 12:28:42 PM
THNAKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE GUYS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643


I think Casey said her name was Gloria.
I can not keep all of the lies straight!  I do remember the sisters name was "Samantha".  Gloria, of Spanish heritage, named her 2 daughters Zanaida and Samantha...... HA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:29:45 PM
This case has caught us all up, why not others in Orlando ? Who are right there and following their " hunches " Do you think that ppl in Orlando who are aware of this case weren't keeping their eyes open and looking ? I would have if it had been near me. I would have looked at things in my 'hood with a different eye. 
Meter reader guy said that he figured a swamp was a good place to put something like that. I thought it was dry there in June ? And if the pavers were a clue ? don't know where that came from, who would have put pavers in a swamp / bog, etc as markers.
Maybe Cindy and Lee, etc did some searches and found that house tied to the name Gonzalez.
The Ants were aware that LE weren't looking for other suspects. And they decided to go that route for court. Before the child was found.       

I am not stalking you, Kat_Gram, though I've replied to two posts back to back.  I just wanted to say that I am VERY local to the JBR case, and the first time I saw it on the news, I made a conscious decision to avoid the media hoopla.  I caught up a bit later, but I didn't follow it at all at the time.  I think people just get sick of the drama and want to go about their lives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:29:51 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.


That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.

Thanks jr...I hadn't heard that!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:31:19 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643


I think Casey said her name was Gloria.
I can not keep all of the lies straight!  I do remember the sisters name was "Samantha".  Gloria, of Spanish heritage, named her 2 daughters Zanaida and Samantha...... HA!

I could be wrong, but thought the mother's name was Gloria.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 12:32:23 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643

I believe your right.
And this addy is right down from the abandon house.....
4709 hopespring dr.....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:32:30 PM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.

I don't see the detail listing it added May 2008 - where is it at?  If so, that is even more peculiar.  Premediated.  Now if we can know where it was added from..........

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8611/whitepagescomonlinedireut1.png)

There it is!  I see it now, thanks.  My screen makes it hard to see.

Premediated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 12:32:31 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643


I think Casey said her name was Gloria.
I can not keep all of the lies straight!  I do remember the sisters name was "Samantha".  Gloria, of Spanish heritage, named her 2 daughters Zanaida and Samantha...... HA!

I went back to find the transcript and she say's "Um...wow, I think her name is Gloria.".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:34:16 PM
Looks like the Orlando Sentinel dug up more on Kronk, he owes back child support.                http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story 

the link says i must sign in to read it...would someone pelase post it here


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 12:35:15 PM
This pic keeps coming to mind when I think of an abandoned home.."Party House"
 
(http://www.belch.com/img/caseyboohoo.jpg)

Ahhhh....the one-eyed slore.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dihannah1 on January 14, 2009, 12:35:57 PM
Regarding Youtube.  The commentary about the case embedded in the Youtube video can and was added at a later date, after it was already uploaded to Youtube.

Sorry, way behind and am at work, not supposed to be posting, but I had a few emails back and forth with this person.  I have yet to respond to last one.  But when I get home tonight, I'll find them and post them here.  I basically sent them a message from youtube and they just said they like making scary videos for a hobby.   They didn't appear to be real in tune with this case per se.  But I'll post later and maybe make more contact with them, as they added me as there "friend", or whatever it's called, even though I never post anything.  So looks like they were trying to figure out why I told them they were disgusting for making such a video and who I was and why I asked. 

I'll talk more tonight, can't post here, mostly read..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
Looks like the Orlando Sentinel dug up more on Kronk, he owes back child support.                http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story 

the link says i must sign in to read it...would someone pelase post it here
Yes, I am hoping someone does, I don't understand what happened when I linked it, except for my lack of computer skills. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-casey1409jan14,0,4396882.story

Meanwhile, the Orlando Sentinel learned that Kronk owes about $10,000 in back child support to his ex-wife in Maryland. The two divorced in 1991, and she began seeking payment since 1996, according to court records. Their son is now 25.

Evans said he knew that his client owed child support but did not know why Kronk had not paid it or whether he was going to use this money to pay off the debt.

"Ultimately, it will be up to him," Evans said. "He's working to find a way to [pay] it."

Hmmm.....  he is, is he?  ::MonkeyRoll:: (reward money? Can't that be taken away from him via the courts, especially should his ex fight him for it? He could kiss all this money goodbye)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Regarding Youtube.  The commentary about the case embedded in the Youtube video can and was added at a later date, after it was already uploaded to Youtube.

Sorry, way behind and am at work, not supposed to be posting, but I had a few emails back and forth with this person.  I have yet to respond to last one.  But when I get home tonight, I'll find them and post them here.  I basically sent them a message from youtube and they just said they like making scary videos for a hobby.   They didn't appear to be real in tune with this case per se.  But I'll post later and maybe make more contact with them, as they added me as there "friend", or whatever it's called, even though I never post anything.  So looks like they were trying to figure out why I told them they were disgusting for making such a video and who I was and why I asked. 

I'll talk more tonight, can't post here, mostly read..
Thanks, they are good at making creepy videos.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 12:37:57 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
Thanks, anothermonkey, and it just keeps getting better and better. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: LIMomof3 on January 14, 2009, 12:40:42 PM
I dont know if this has already been mentioned but I was thinking about this last night. Anyone else find it strange, or maybe not so much, that Mark Nejame quits the case around the same time the Anthony's PI is in the woods?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
Sorry, somehow I messed up the link. ::MonkeyConfused::
You cannot copy links from a forum post.  Forum software automatically parses links.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
I dont know if this has already been mentioned but I was thinking about this last night. Anyone else find it strange, or maybe not so much, that Mark Nejame quits the case around the same time the Anthony's PI is in the woods?

It's very strange.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 14, 2009, 12:44:15 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

I missed the original t-shirt discussion, what is this about? 
the Help Find Caylee, the A's are trying to sell for 10.00 each. i want to know if that is what they say & where is the money going, to charily, to Caylee's funeral/memorial or what? i just think this is totally worse than tacky!!!!! it say to e-mail jody parker, i think that's her name so you can order. this would be a personal e-mail, no monkeys involved (just me)

wendi
Wendi did you call or write about the t-shirts.  I'm like 20 some pages behind?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pharlap on January 14, 2009, 12:44:29 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643

I believe your right.
And this addy is right down from the abandon house.....
4709 hopespring dr.....



I'm correcting my own post...
Abandon house addy is
8718 brackenwood...

I can't keep this all straight either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:45:08 PM
Sorry, somehow I messed up the link. ::MonkeyConfused::
You cannot copy links from a forum post.  Forum software automatically parses links.
Thank-you for that info, I was wandering what I was doing wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
THNAKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE GUYS!

Forgot to add that if you close your eyes and just listen to Murt, he sounds exactly like Kermit The Frog!!   :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 12:47:40 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.
I know that it varies on how this works.  Don't know what happens in FL. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 12:47:44 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.

TexasLil from WS posted this:

The county records show a "notice" to have been filed on 9/3/2008. This didn't show up until I searched on Elsa's name as they misspelled "Hernan" as "Herman" on the filing record. The notice was filed by a mortgage company which could be a notice of foreclosure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.


Can I ask where you find that? I was searching and searching to no avail and assumed there were no delinquent taxes.  Google has been mean to me lately.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 12:49:40 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.

TexasLil from WS posted this:

The county records show a "notice" to have been filed on 9/3/2008. This didn't show up until I searched on Elsa's name as they misspelled "Hernan" as "Herman" on the filing record. The notice was filed by a mortgage company which could be a notice of foreclosure.

You are all so good at this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 14, 2009, 12:50:15 PM
This case has caught us all up, why not others in Orlando ? Who are right there and following their " hunches " Do you think that ppl in Orlando who are aware of this case weren't keeping their eyes open and looking ? I would have if it had been near me. I would have looked at things in my 'hood with a different eye. 
Meter reader guy said that he figured a swamp was a good place to put something like that. I thought it was dry there in June ? And if the pavers were a clue ? don't know where that came from, who would have put pavers in a swamp / bog, etc as markers.
Maybe Cindy and Lee, etc did some searches and found that house tied to the name Gonzalez.
The Ants were aware that LE weren't looking for other suspects. And they decided to go that route for court. Before the child was found.       

I am not stalking you, Kat_Gram, though I've replied to two posts back to back.  I just wanted to say that I am VERY local to the JBR case, and the first time I saw it on the news, I made a conscious decision to avoid the media hoopla.  I caught up a bit later, but I didn't follow it at all at the time.  I think people just get sick of the drama and want to go about their lives.
Oh, in Orlando, they had ppl standing outside the ANT house, on camera. I would have stayed away from most things and not tried to do anything that would bring any attention to me.
Speaking of JBR, I was on Ebay and someone was selling pine cones from the house. We live in a strange society. Stranger in Orlando on Hopespring I imagine. LP didn't help things much by announcing a reward for the body either. LE asked him to not do that as they didn't need the frenzy either.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: joesamas mama on January 14, 2009, 12:50:22 PM
Hope the ppl from that house never set foot in Orlando in the past year. Or since June 15th. Stupid question, do you need a passport to go from USA to PR ? PR to USA ?   

I don't think you do, Kat Gram, as PR is a US territory.  Right?  Maybe I should stick to posting on things I know more about.  *crickets chirping, and not of the crotch variety*
You are right Blurry, PR, Guam and the US VI do not require passport/visa for Americans to travel there. They are territories of the US, therefore they are citizens.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 12:51:42 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-casey1409jan14,0,4396882.story

Meanwhile, the Orlando Sentinel learned that Kronk owes about $10,000 in back child support to his ex-wife in Maryland. The two divorced in 1991, and she began seeking payment since 1996, according to court records. Their son is now 25.

Evans said he knew that his client owed child support but did not know why Kronk had not paid it or whether he was going to use this money to pay off the debt.

"Ultimately, it will be up to him," Evans said. "He's working to find a way to [pay] it."

Hmmm.....  he is, is he?  ::MonkeyRoll:: (reward money? Can't that be taken away from him via the courts, especially should his ex fight him for it? He could kiss all this money goodbye)



well, well well, sounds like KRONK get more hinky all the time....perhaps his new found celebrity status is going to be a thorn in his side....I detest people who don't pay their child support....axxholes!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:51:49 PM
This pic keeps coming to mind when I think of an abandoned home.."Party House"
 
(http://www.belch.com/img/caseyboohoo.jpg)

Ahhhh....the one-eyed slore.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Wish we could see the inside to the house on Brackenwood. Maybe they did party there sometime knowing it was vacant. Just saying, supposed Caylee died there. What if there was a party and KC tried to "put her to sleep for the night" and KC thought she was sleeping but she wasn't. Or maybe they all had partied there sometime previously so KC knew of this place and it was close, so she took Caylee there the night of the fight with CA? I don't know just trying to to think how this house could tie into this whole thing, or maybe it doesn't beyond the pi's going there? Either way, I would be interested to see the inside to compare w/ some of KC's party pics, especially this one though, look at the floor behind KC. It looks pretty bare, and the couch in the other room looks out of place. Maybe a zoomed out shot would make things look different, but this one does look like it's not in the nicest place. Does anyone know if there are any other similar shots that may have been taken, possibly the same time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
Looks like the Orlando Sentinel dug up more on Kronk, he owes back child support.                http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story 

the link says i must sign in to read it...would someone pelase post it here
Yes, I am hoping someone does, I don't understand what happened when I linked it, except for my lack of computer skills. ::MonkeyRoll::


NoRose.See if this link will work.Gotta fix lunch.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1409jan14,0,787726.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 12:53:15 PM
I have contacted whitepages to determine when the Zenaida at 4709 Hopespring was added.

Excellent, let us know what you find out.

Click the listing details link. It was added May 2008 and John Morgan confirms no one by Z's name lives there.

I don't see the detail listing it added May 2008 - where is it at?  If so, that is even more peculiar.  Premediated.  Now if we can know where it was added from..........

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8611/whitepagescomonlinedireut1.png)

There it is!  I see it now, thanks.  My screen makes it hard to see.

Premediated.

WOW.   This is amazing.    Good job you all!!!
(Still trying to catch up - you guys are fast)!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:53:28 PM

OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again, again **

Hope this isn't annoying all you monkeys??  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 14, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

I missed the original t-shirt discussion, what is this about? 
the Help Find Caylee, the A's are trying to sell for 10.00 each. i want to know if that is what they say & where is the money going, to charily, to Caylee's funeral/memorial or what? i just think this is totally worse than tacky!!!!! it say to e-mail jody parker, i think that's her name so you can order. this would be a personal e-mail, no monkeys involved (just me)

wendi
Wendi did you call or write about the t-shirts.  I'm like 20 some pages behind?

yes, i did! very polite & respectful. (made me sick to do so) no response yet. i will let you know as if or when i hear anything back.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:55:13 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-casey1409jan14,0,4396882.story

Meanwhile, the Orlando Sentinel learned that Kronk owes about $10,000 in back child support to his ex-wife in Maryland. The two divorced in 1991, and she began seeking payment since 1996, according to court records. Their son is now 25.

Evans said he knew that his client owed child support but did not know why Kronk had not paid it or whether he was going to use this money to pay off the debt.

"Ultimately, it will be up to him," Evans said. "He's working to find a way to [pay] it."

Hmmm.....  he is, is he?  ::MonkeyRoll:: (reward money? Can't that be taken away from him via the courts, especially should his ex fight him for it? He could kiss all this money goodbye)



well, well well, sounds like KRONK get more hinky all the time....perhaps his new found celebrity status is going to be a thorn in his side....I detest people who don't pay their child support....axxholes!  ::MonkeyDance::
Me too, tells me a lot about ones character.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 12:56:33 PM
Looks like the Orlando Sentinel dug up more on Kronk, he owes back child support.                http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,787726.story 

the link says i must sign in to read it...would someone pelase post it here
Yes, I am hoping someone does, I don't understand what happened when I linked it, except for my lack of computer skills. ::MonkeyRoll::


NoRose.See if this link will work.Gotta fix lunch.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1409jan14,0,787726.story

Thank-you  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 14, 2009, 12:58:30 PM
This case has caught us all up, why not others in Orlando ? Who are right there and following their " hunches " Do you think that ppl in Orlando who are aware of this case weren't keeping their eyes open and looking ? I would have if it had been near me. I would have looked at things in my 'hood with a different eye. 
Meter reader guy said that he figured a swamp was a good place to put something like that. I thought it was dry there in June ? And if the pavers were a clue ? don't know where that came from, who would have put pavers in a swamp / bog, etc as markers.
Maybe Cindy and Lee, etc did some searches and found that house tied to the name Gonzalez.
The Ants were aware that LE weren't looking for other suspects. And they decided to go that route for court. Before the child was found.       

I am not stalking you, Kat_Gram, though I've replied to two posts back to back.  I just wanted to say that I am VERY local to the JBR case, and the first time I saw it on the news, I made a conscious decision to avoid the media hoopla.  I caught up a bit later, but I didn't follow it at all at the time.  I think people just get sick of the drama and want to go about their lives.
Oh, in Orlando, they had ppl standing outside the ANT house, on camera. I would have stayed away from most things and not tried to do anything that would bring any attention to me.
Speaking of JBR, I was on Ebay and someone was selling pine cones from the house. We live in a strange society. Stranger in Orlando on Hopespring I imagine. LP didn't help things much by announcing a reward for the body either. LE asked him to not do that as they didn't need the frenzy either.   

Selling pine cones from the house?  That's crazy.  I could take a short drive and fill up my entire car with them.  I could then lie about them being from that property, but the house is now fenced off and has been for years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 12:59:15 PM
Wasn't Zanny's mothers name "Maria"??


Maria I Gonzalez

4758 Hopespring Dr

Orlando, FL 32829-8643





Good Afternoon Monkey's

I thought Zanny's mom's name was Glorida.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 14, 2009, 12:59:56 PM
ok, monkeys, i didn't hear back from ya'll regarding me e-mailing jody about the t-shirts, so i'm gonna go ahead & do it. real quick any questions ya'll want me to ask? i am going to be very polite & respectful, but i want to know what this t-shirts say & where is the money going, charity, Caylee's memorial/burial/ or what! surely the t-shirts cannot say help find Caylee!!! tia.

wendi

I missed the original t-shirt discussion, what is this about? 
the Help Find Caylee, the A's are trying to sell for 10.00 each. i want to know if that is what they say & where is the money going, to charily, to Caylee's funeral/memorial or what? i just think this is totally worse than tacky!!!!! it say to e-mail jody parker, i think that's her name so you can order. this would be a personal e-mail, no monkeys involved (just me)

wendi
Wendi did you call or write about the t-shirts.  I'm like 20 some pages behind?

yes, i did! very polite & respectful. (made me sick to do so) no response yet. i will let you know as if or when i hear anything back.

wendi
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
THNAKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE GUYS!

Forgot to add that if you close your eyes and just listen to Murt, he sounds exactly like Kermit The Frog!!   :smt045

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::   That's true!      ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Well, so much for catching up.  ::MonkeyEek::  It has become so dang confusing.  I agree with Dolce who mentioned that with the all the confusion going on, Baez has got to be laughin his ass off.  All he has to do is cause reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
Got a chuckle out of this front page post:  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Eddieblue wrote:

I am Eddie, a gifted psychic.

Want to tell you that the spot the competition pointed out to the Anthony’s P.I’s is 150 yards away from the real thing.

The psychic who claimed to have talked to the investigator doesn’t seem to pay her own bills.,
Daddy pays them.
And there is no record of the calls.

She ought to go back to playing with Teddybears or dousing.
(No, not douching although that might help)

This psychic had a dream that all of the investigators hired by the Anthony Family along with all members of said family are liars and are only interested in obstruction of justice.

My charge for today is $1,999.99.

Defense or prosecution - please send a check real soon.


Jan 14, 11:28 AM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
With all that junk in the backyard of the abandoned house, it strikes me odd that Dom Casey, just dug around the small area by the house, and cut into the black garbage bags, much more to examine, but he didn't, unless there is another video with him doing more investigating.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:01:23 PM
I dont know if this has already been mentioned but I was thinking about this last night. Anyone else find it strange, or maybe not so much, that Mark Nejame quits the case around the same time the Anthony's PI is in the woods?

I didn't realize that limom, I DO find it somewhat strange. Wonder if he knew they were up to no good, and wanted no part of it. He is alot smarter than those other lawyers & pi's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 01:02:41 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.
That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.
I would say that is why he asked to speak to her before she walked into court. Gotta get those stories straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 01:02:42 PM

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again, again **

Hope this isn't annoying all you monkeys??  ::MonkeyTongue::


Thanks QM!!     ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
Got a chuckle out of this front page post:  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Eddieblue wrote:

I am Eddie, a gifted psychic.

Want to tell you that the spot the competition pointed out to the Anthony’s P.I’s is 150 yards away from the real thing.

The psychic who claimed to have talked to the investigator doesn’t seem to pay her own bills.,
Daddy pays them.
And there is no record of the calls.

She ought to go back to playing with Teddybears or dousing.
(No, not douching although that might help)

This psychic had a dream that all of the investigators hired by the Anthony Family along with all members of said family are liars and are only interested in obstruction of justice.

My charge for today is $1,999.99.

Defense or prosecution - please send a check real soon.


Jan 14, 11:28 AM

That's great  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:03:10 PM
Got a chuckle out of this front page post:  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Eddieblue wrote:

I am Eddie, a gifted psychic.

Want to tell you that the spot the competition pointed out to the Anthony’s P.I’s is 150 yards away from the real thing.

The psychic who claimed to have talked to the investigator doesn’t seem to pay her own bills.,
Daddy pays them.
And there is no record of the calls.

She ought to go back to playing with Teddybears or dousing.
(No, not douching although that might help)

This psychic had a dream that all of the investigators hired by the Anthony Family along with all members of said family are liars and are only interested in obstruction of justice.

My charge for today is $1,999.99.

Defense or prosecution - please send a check real soon.


Jan 14, 11:28 AM

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 01:04:14 PM

"A CORRESPONDENCE FILED FROM INMATE RECORDS NARRATIVE"

what does this mean, exactly? correspondence (letter? notes?) filed from Casey.. or from Casey's records? or..   ::MonkeyEek:: HUH
Good question. Might have something to do with them getting her to court on that day.
That is very possible. Wesh reported Monday evening that the jail spokesperson said that when they went to get her from her cell to take her to court, she said that her attorney never told her about any court hearing so she wasn't going.
That contradicts what JB said in court and what she herself said under oath while in court.
I would say that is why he asked to speak to her before she walked into court. Gotta get those stories straight.

I think you're right.  Amazing.    Gotta love the judge for making her appear!    He should make her appear for EVERY court date - for now on!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:06:26 PM

OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again, again **

Hope this isn't annoying all you monkeys??  ::MonkeyTongue::


What keeps standing out in my mind that Casey was seen jogging down Chickasaw Trl in June- Brachenwood dr backs Chickasaw... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:06:55 PM

I think you're right.  Amazing.    Gotta love the judge for making her appear!    He should make her appear for EVERY court date - for now on!!!

And maybe somebody should slip some carpet tacks on her chair before she sits down.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:08:34 PM

What keeps standing out in my mind that Casey was seen jogging down Chickasaw Trl in June- Brachenwood dr backs Chickasaw... ::MonkeyTongue::

So maybe instead of Casey staying in the woods during that 2-week period of time (when her friends didn't know where she was), maybe she was staying in that abandoned house? But she probably couldn't get hot water there, so she snuck into her parent's house for a shower.. used Jesse's shower, etc...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

Yep they do. At least here they do.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 01:09:10 PM
Sheriff's office details complaints against deputy who handled Caylee tip

 (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-sheriff-complaint-caylee011309,0,7383857.story)
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:31 PM EST, January 14, 2009
The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released some of the details of complaints filed against the deputy criticized for the way he handled an August tip about Caylee Marie Anthony's remains.

Reports show that Deputy Richard Cain responded to Calibre Bend Lane on March 25, 2007 regarding a threatening call made to resident Kevin Newton.

The complaint report shows that Newton had been robbed several days prior to the day he received the threatening phone call. Newton asked Cain for protection, but the deputy told him that could not be provided by the sheriff's office.

"I explained to him that we could not provide him the type of services that he is asking for," the sheriff's report shows. "The best thing he could do is contact the detective assigned to his robbery case."

No sheriff's policies were violated in the incident and the complaint was dropped, according to the report.

Another complainant told deputies that Cain failed to identify himself when he responded to Pamlico Street on January 17. Resident John Schuss told deputies that Cain and another deputy remained on his property 30 minutes after the call for service. Cain also refused to identify himself, Schuss said.

Sheriff's records show that Cain and the other deputy had not remained at the scene for the alleged period of time. Cain told deputies he had identify himself. The report shows that Cain's name is also displayed on his uniform.

Schuss did not return calls made by the deputy assigned to the allegations against Cain. Deputies determined the complaint was unjustified.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 01:11:28 PM
Got a chuckle out of this front page post:  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Eddieblue wrote:

I am Eddie, a gifted psychic.

Want to tell you that the spot the competition pointed out to the Anthony’s P.I’s is 150 yards away from the real thing.

The psychic who claimed to have talked to the investigator doesn’t seem to pay her own bills.,
Daddy pays them.
And there is no record of the calls.

She ought to go back to playing with Teddybears or dousing.
(No, not douching although that might help)

This psychic had a dream that all of the investigators hired by the Anthony Family along with all members of said family are liars and are only interested in obstruction of justice.

My charge for today is $1,999.99.

Defense or prosecution - please send a check real soon.


Jan 14, 11:28 AM

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/caseyboohoo.jpg)

SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 01:12:02 PM

I think you're right.  Amazing.    Gotta love the judge for making her appear!    He should make her appear for EVERY court date - for now on!!!

And maybe somebody should slip some carpet tacks on her chair before she sits down.   ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyDance::  Oh yeah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 14, 2009, 01:12:18 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Grrrr.   That's pitiful.   They are more worried about selling this stuff than having a funeral for Caylee.   I hate those people!    ::MonkeyNoNo::

At what point did they get Caylee's remains back from Jose Baez?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:12:32 PM

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again, again **

Hope this isn't annoying all you monkeys??  ::MonkeyTongue::


Thanks QM!!     ::MonkeyDance::

You're welcome Sassy. I just want to be sure all the monkeys get a chance to look at it. I know sometimes I say I'll go back to a post to check something but I forget or don't get a chance. Figured if I repost a few times, so no one has to go back and look for it. Don't know how many more times I'll post it though, I don't want to annoy the monkeys!!! If so, I may get one of these:

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s316/Jenny-LaBoricua/Funny%20Animals/monkey-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 01:12:44 PM

I think you're right.  Amazing.    Gotta love the judge for making her appear!    He should make her appear for EVERY court date - for now on!!!

And maybe somebody should slip some carpet tacks on her chair before she sits down.   ::MonkeyTongue::

That's a good idea!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:13:09 PM

SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:13:27 PM
Well, so much for catching up.  ::MonkeyEek::  It has become so dang confusing.  I agree with Dolce who mentioned that with the all the confusion going on, Baez has got to be laughin his ass off.  All he has to do is cause reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

ITA- Defense Tactics= Reasonable Doubt.... The more players involved around the crime scene.. PI's hire by Baez and the Sin-Anthonys... Who else? Come Forward.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 01:15:22 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/caseyboohoo.jpg)

SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/stoltz5333/monkey%20forum%20album/ed.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 01:17:01 PM

What keeps standing out in my mind that Casey was seen jogging down Chickasaw Trl in June- Brachenwood dr backs Chickasaw... ::MonkeyTongue::

So maybe instead of Casey staying in the woods during that 2-week period of time (when her friends didn't know where she was), maybe she was staying in that abandoned house? But she probably couldn't get hot water there, so she snuck into her parent's house for a shower.. used Jesse's shower, etc...
That could very well be, I wonder if LE has been to this house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

This was what I said a little while ago:
I just looked, and if you follow brackenwood to the end (culdesac)it has a side walk leading right to the school. So I'm sure all the kids in that neighborhood would walk that way to school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 01:17:42 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:20:08 PM

What keeps standing out in my mind that Casey was seen jogging down Chickasaw Trl in June- Brachenwood dr backs Chickasaw... ::MonkeyTongue::

So maybe instead of Casey staying in the woods during that 2-week period of time (when her friends didn't know where she was), maybe she was staying in that abandoned house? But she probably couldn't get hot water there, so she snuck into her parent's house for a shower.. used Jesse's shower, etc...
That could very well be, I wonder if LE has been to this house?

The house of secrets... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 01:21:31 PM

OK, going to post the birdseye view from each direction, but you have to click the links because I don't know how to take snapshots. Besides if you click the links you can move around your self, etc. This took me a little while, so make sure you monkeys check it out and let me know. I'm sorry I don't know how to do the push pin thing, I tried but it didn't work. I apologize if anyone has trouble seeing the house. Alot of the angles of the house have a WHITE BOAT in the backyard, but it's not shown in all directions, or even at the same zoom level. I guess that's because not all angles were shot at the same time-same thing with cars in driveways etc, they change at different angles. Ok, monkeys check em out!!

Facing South, front of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf7dx86v608&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916558&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing East, Suburban Dr. is to the right:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf71k86v64h&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646293&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing North, rear of house:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6sm86v62c&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Facing West:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6wq86v67x&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916565&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


** Just re-posting this again, again **

Hope this isn't annoying all you monkeys??  ::MonkeyTongue::


What keeps standing out in my mind that Casey was seen jogging down Chickasaw Trl in June- Brachenwood dr backs Chickasaw... ::MonkeyTongue::

Yeah, what day was that?  I'll look it up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 01:22:34 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

So the location that Kronk showed the cop in August  was not the initial place that the body was found according to this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:22:49 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

Roy Kronk=Bailsman=Bounty Hunter
Casey=Investigator
Hoover=Investigator

Hmmmmm... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:23:44 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely."

The forensic anthropologist said the interest in the case against Casey Anthony has not reached the media frenzy in Canada as it has across the U.S.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-011409,0,7346015.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:24:21 PM
Well, so much for catching up.  ::MonkeyEek::  It has become so dang confusing.  I agree with Dolce who mentioned that with the all the confusion going on, Baez has got to be laughin his ass off.  All he has to do is cause reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

ITA- Defense Tactics= Reasonable Doubt.... The more players involved around the crime scene.. PI's hire by Baez and the Sin-Anthonys... Who else? Come Forward.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

Scott Fairgrieve

The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely."

The forensic anthropologist said the interest in the case against Casey Anthony has not reached the media frenzy in Canada as it has across the U.S.



TV Guy Hal Boedeker's commentary on the Casey Anthony case coverage
Florida's media circuses Photos "When I was first contacted by Mr. Baez, I had no idea about the case," Fairgrieve said. "But it is an interesting case. The allegations are disturbing and the discovery of the remains should be disturbing to all involved."

Fairgrieve, who is also a consultant for the northeastern regional forensic pathology unit in Sudbury, Ontario, had helped Baez in October regarding the use of cadaver dogs.

Crime scene technicians with the Orange County Sheriff's Office used cadaver dogs in July to search the backyard of the home Caylee Marie shared with her mother and grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The dogs sniffed the yard of the Hopespring Drive home, but found nothing, reports show. A cadaver dog also alerted on the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, indicating the presence of human-decomposition odor, but family members maintain the smell came from old pizza.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 01:25:13 PM
Sheriff's office details complaints against deputy who handled Caylee tip

 (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-sheriff-complaint-caylee011309,0,7383857.story)
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:31 PM EST, January 14, 2009
The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released some of the details of complaints filed against the deputy criticized for the way he handled an August tip about Caylee Marie Anthony's remains.

Reports show that Deputy Richard Cain responded to Calibre Bend Lane on March 25, 2007 regarding a threatening call made to resident Kevin Newton.

The complaint report shows that Newton had been robbed several days prior to the day he received the threatening phone call. Newton asked Cain for protection, but the deputy told him that could not be provided by the sheriff's office.

"I explained to him that we could not provide him the type of services that he is asking for," the sheriff's report shows. "The best thing he could do is contact the detective assigned to his robbery case."

No sheriff's policies were violated in the incident and the complaint was dropped, according to the report.

Another complainant told deputies that Cain failed to identify himself when he responded to Pamlico Street on January 17. Resident John Schuss told deputies that Cain and another deputy remained on his property 30 minutes after the call for service. Cain also refused to identify himself, Schuss said.

Sheriff's records show that Cain and the other deputy had not remained at the scene for the alleged period of time. Cain told deputies he had identify himself. The report shows that Cain's name is also displayed on his uniform.

Schuss did not return calls made by the deputy assigned to the allegations against Cain. Deputies determined the complaint was unjustified.


Thanks for that. Maybe it is just me, but that sure does not seem that the deputy did anything real bad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 01:25:32 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.

IIRC It was on July 15th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

So the location that Kronk showed the cop in August  was not the initial place that the body was found according to this?

That's what LP said on Nancy Grace last night, kitkat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:26:32 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.

There has been 1 time  reported so far her on foot in the area.. How many other times was she in the area on foot? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 01:28:15 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

So the location that Kronk showed the cop in August  was not the initial place that the body was found according to this?

That's what LP said on Nancy Grace last night, kitkat.

Ok hmmm I don't know what to think about that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:28:39 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.

There has been 1 time  reported so far her on foot in the area.. How many other times was she in the area on foot? ::MonkeyTongue::

I just remember too the time she was in the area on foot when she ran out of gas and Tony picked  her up to break into the shed to get gas.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:28:55 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

Roy Kronk=Bailsman=Bounty Hunter
Casey=Investigator
Hoover=Investigator

Hmmmmm... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Roy Kronk=Bailsman=Bounty Hunter
Casey=Investigator
Hoover=Investigator

(http://th35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/sergio_perez1991/th_5fc8b595.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:29:37 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.

There has been 1 time  reported so far her on foot in the area.. How many other times was she in the area on foot? ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Question. I would think the prosecution will point out that she denied what someone else saw with their own eyes, and ask the question, "WHY?" At least that's one time and it should help establish that she did not want to associate herself with the area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 01:29:44 PM
Just as our schmuck of a governor (Blago) of IL has done by quoting poets for his ineptness, here's one for horseface - "Why did the Lord give us agility if not to evade responsibility - Ogden Nash


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 01:30:58 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

So the location that Kronk showed the cop in August  was not the initial place that the body was found according to this?

That's what LP said on Nancy Grace last night, kitkat.

Ok hmmm I don't know what to think about that.

Well you know yesterday on GMA Kronk said he was never tipped off but he didn't say HE never tipped anyone off so........I don't know I still think there is something about this guy.  :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 01:31:27 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.


Can I ask where you find that? I was searching and searching to no avail and assumed there were no delinquent taxes.  Google has been mean to me lately.
www.orangeclerk.net (http://www.orangeclerk.net)

If you are on AOL use your internet explorer. You can search property tax records by address. That main page has everything you can check on in Orange county including the court records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

Yep they do. At least here they do.  ::MonkeyTongue::

TY Anothermonkey! from one Ohio monkey to a not-originally-but-stuck-here-now-Ohio monkey! My son takes the bus, even though he could walk ~ district doesn't allow it!  Keeps my mind at ease that he doesn't though with all the WIERDOs out there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
Yeah, I remember that. She was seen jogging and someone texted her that he had seen her, and Casey denied she had been jogging in the area.

There has been 1 time  reported so far her on foot in the area.. How many other times was she in the area on foot? ::MonkeyTongue::

Good Question. I would think the prosecution will point out that she denied what someone else saw with their own eyes, and ask the question, "WHY?" At least that's one time and it should help establish that she did not want to associate herself with the area.

Great Point... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Just as our schmuck of a governor (Blago) of IL has done by quoting poets for his ineptness, here's one for horseface - "Why did the Lord give us agility if not to evade responsibility - Ogden Nash

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

GOOD ONE!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:34:35 PM

Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

Scott Fairgrieve

The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely."

The forensic anthropologist said the interest in the case against Casey Anthony has not reached the media frenzy in Canada as it has across the U.S.



TV Guy Hal Boedeker's commentary on the Casey Anthony case coverage
Florida's media circuses Photos "When I was first contacted by Mr. Baez, I had no idea about the case," Fairgrieve said. "But it is an interesting case. The allegations are disturbing and the discovery of the remains should be disturbing to all involved."

Fairgrieve, who is also a consultant for the northeastern regional forensic pathology unit in Sudbury, Ontario, had helped Baez in October regarding the use of cadaver dogs.

Crime scene technicians with the Orange County Sheriff's Office used cadaver dogs in July to search the backyard of the home Caylee Marie shared with her mother and grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The dogs sniffed the yard of the Hopespring Drive home, but found nothing, reports show. A cadaver dog also alerted on the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, indicating the presence of human-decomposition odor, but family members maintain the smell came from old pizza.


Don't they have enough "experts", they need more? Someone has alot of money somewhere paying for all of this, it just gets more rediculious everyday. Aren't these experts just paid to say what they want them to say  What's the point anyway??? Will he agree too that the smell WAS pizza?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

Yep they do. At least here they do.  ::MonkeyTongue::

TY Anothermonkey! from one Ohio monkey to a not-originally-but-stuck-here-now-Ohio monkey! My son takes the bus, even though he could walk ~ district doesn't allow it!  Keeps my mind at ease that he doesn't though with all the WIERDOs out there!

Really?  I mean it's probably safer in the long run, so I can understand it.. but there are so many kids to bus.. or kids who live close but nobody can pick them up.  We live only a couple blocks from the local elementary schools (a couple in either direction).  My daughter isn't old enough to walk by herself, but she's too close to be bussed (though they do bus Kindergarteners home, no matter where they live). There are kids everywhere. It's a pretty safe area, I'd say.. but a child who lives down the street from us did say that there was a "pervert" she thought was watching kids in order to kidnap them.  (She pointed him out to me, and I took down his license plate # and a description just in case). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 01:39:35 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

This was what I said a little while ago:
I just looked, and if you follow brackenwood to the end (culdesac)it has a side walk leading right to the school. So I'm sure all the kids in that neighborhood would walk that way to school.


QM, did not mean to step on your toes.  I was behind and thought popped into my head and had to post right then because if I don't...wwwsshhh...there it goes, right out of my brain!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:40:08 PM

Don't they have enough "experts", they need more? Someone has alot of money somewhere paying for all of this, it just gets more rediculious everyday. Aren't these experts just paid to say what they want them to say  What's the point anyway??? Will he agree too that the smell WAS pizza?

Probably.. apparently Dr Lee was bought "cheap".   He's already given us some BS about ham and cheese that didn't exist.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 01:41:14 PM
Well, so much for catching up.  ::MonkeyEek::  It has become so dang confusing.  I agree with Dolce who mentioned that with the all the confusion going on, Baez has got to be laughin his ass off.  All he has to do is cause reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

ITA- Defense Tactics= Reasonable Doubt.... The more players involved around the crime scene.. PI's hire by Baez and the Sin-Anthonys... Who else? Come Forward.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

Scott Fairgrieve

The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely."

The forensic anthropologist said the interest in the case against Casey Anthony has not reached the media frenzy in Canada as it has across the U.S.



TV Guy Hal Boedeker's commentary on the Casey Anthony case coverage
Florida's media circuses Photos "When I was first contacted by Mr. Baez, I had no idea about the case," Fairgrieve said. "But it is an interesting case. The allegations are disturbing and the discovery of the remains should be disturbing to all involved."

Fairgrieve, who is also a consultant for the northeastern regional forensic pathology unit in Sudbury, Ontario, had helped Baez in October regarding the use of cadaver dogs.

Crime scene technicians with the Orange County Sheriff's Office used cadaver dogs in July to search the backyard of the home Caylee Marie shared with her mother and grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The dogs sniffed the yard of the Hopespring Drive home, but found nothing, reports show. A cadaver dog also alerted on the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, indicating the presence of human-decomposition odor, but family members maintain the smell came from old pizza.

Wow, I was unaware that a cadaver dog associates a dead body decomposing to old pizza.....I guess you learn something new everyday..... ::MonkeyEek:: (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/stoltz5333/monkey%20forum%20album/sarcasticclap.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 14, 2009, 01:44:05 PM
Russ - thanks, I created that map  ::MonkeyWink::

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BrackenHope.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Brackenhope2.jpg)

Here's the birdseye view of this area:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrf6hs86v8ts&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=36360863&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

I don't know how to do a snapshot of it, hopefully no one already posted this, I'm behind again trying to catch up.


Looks like a fence.


It looks like a four wheeler track to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: OriginalKat on January 14, 2009, 01:44:39 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237146&version=1&locale=EN-US (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8237146&version=1&locale=EN-US)

The reporter on this gives you a good view of how far DC video was from where Caylee was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:46:07 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

This was what I said a little while ago:
I just looked, and if you follow brackenwood to the end (culdesac)it has a side walk leading right to the school. So I'm sure all the kids in that neighborhood would walk that way to school.


QM, did not mean to step on your toes.  I was behind and thought popped into my head and had to post right then because if I don't...wwwsshhh...there it goes, right out of my brain!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: You didn't step on my monkey toes! I did post it earlier and no one responded, then you asked a couple pages later. Anyway, I miss lots of things too. It's just too hard to remember everything. That's what this case does to ya! It does me sometimes anyway. Makes me bananas!

(http://th40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/purplepeach_photos/th_bananas_md_wht.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 01:46:21 PM
Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, the people that she used referred to -- you know, say she was with Zanny the nanny, that was Xanax or something to that effect.

But you`ve got to give me 45 seconds, Nancy. And then you can send me to time-out. The -- the pavers they`re talking about that the -- meter reader and the private detective were sent to, they were both tipped by the same source. And they`re 150 feet away from where the body was found.

That`s the whole confusion here. The cops should not be punished. He was taken 150 feet from where the body was found because the pavers they were keying in on are not the pavers where the body was found. Totally different.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

Roy Kronk=Bailsman=Bounty Hunter
Casey=Investigator
Hoover=Investigator

Hmmmmm... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Dominic Casey has a non profit -- hmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 14, 2009, 01:52:05 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hopebreckfense.jpg)


Yeah, I posted that I thought it was 4-wheeler track, but I agree upon closer inspection it appears to be fence.   Oops


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:56:00 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Hmm.. Good one. We need a map of the areas in Orlando? To figure out which corresponds with T-55. I'm trying to google various things and not coming up with much so far.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 14, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
I'm way behind so excuse me if this has already been addressed...

Klaas,

I think that the foot path worn between Suburban Dr. & Brackenwood Dr. might be a way that the kids who walk to the school "cut thru" to get to & from school.  We used to do that all the time when we were kids, cut thru peoples back yards to make the walk shorter.  Although I'm not sure IF kids even walk to school anymore?!?!?!?!

Lovin

Yep they do. At least here they do.  ::MonkeyTongue::

TY Anothermonkey! from one Ohio monkey to a not-originally-but-stuck-here-now-Ohio monkey! My son takes the bus, even though he could walk ~ district doesn't allow it!  Keeps my mind at ease that he doesn't though with all the WIERDOs out there!

My son'd school let's them walk, bike or skateboard to school if they want....of course there are only 130 kids K-5th, and a stream of volunteers and cops watching out every morning and afternoon. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 01:57:50 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 01:58:15 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Hmm.. Good one. We need a map of the areas in Orlando? To figure out which corresponds with T-55. I'm trying to google various things and not coming up with much so far.

I was wondering if the T-56 ex..are the codes the police use for the areas.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 02:02:25 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???

Ditto.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 02:02:28 PM
THNAKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE GUYS!

Forgot to add that if you close your eyes and just listen to Murt, he sounds exactly like Kermit The Frog!!   :smt045

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I thought he sounded more like Howard Sprague from the Andy Griffen show. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
The thought passed through my mind and then it was like pleaseeeeeeeeee my head is going to explode. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Mary Ann on January 14, 2009, 02:05:04 PM
T-55???!!! Either this is the strangest coincidence or I have been smoking bad weed again!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
Islandmonkey:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4248.msg626372#msg626372

 ::MonkeyCool:: lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???

I thought that too!! I decided to see if anyone posted it first before I did. I had a feeling another monkey thought it too. Not sure what it means yet though, cause I never knew if timer55 meant anything.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: bowtiegirl on January 14, 2009, 02:07:18 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::




http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Hmm.. Good one. We need a map of the areas in Orlando? To figure out which corresponds with T-55. I'm trying to google various things and not coming up with much so far.


hum....T-55...like "Timer55"??  Some of the pictures that I've seen on PHotobucket where Casey is playing football (Lauren's party?) looks a lot like the fence seen bythe brackenwood house....just all so strange...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
T-55???!!! Either this is the strangest coincidence or I have been smoking bad weed again!!!!


:2rofl: :2rofl: :2rofl: :2rofl:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 02:08:32 PM
 Is it possible that T-56 is the meter reader Roy Kronk's assigned meter readering area? And that there is another meter reader with the assignment of T-55? Two things are standing out in my mind: LP mentioning on NG that "meter readers working together" when the remains news first broke, and Roy saying on GMA yesterday that "WE got off work at 1:30 and our shift didn't end until 2:30" on 8/11 or something like that, implying that he and another meter reader were searching the area together during their last hour on the job???!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 02:08:50 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???

I thought that too!! I decided to see if anyone posted it first before I did. I had a feeling another monkey thought it too. Not sure what it means yet though, cause I never knew if timer55 meant anything.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Meter readers may use it and so may LE...  Casey does have cop friends that got in a little trouble. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 02:09:39 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/caseyboohoo.jpg)

SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 

Superb job, CBB!!!  I wish I would of thought of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 02:11:15 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!

Click on the picture below, it's the video of GMA:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Searching on January 14, 2009, 02:15:56 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/caseyboohoo.jpg)

SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 

PRICELESS, I soo needed this laugh. TY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Hmm.. Good one. We need a map of the areas in Orlando? To figure out which corresponds with T-55. I'm trying to google various things and not coming up with much so far.

I was wondering if the T-56 ex..are the codes the police use for the areas.. ::MonkeyTongue::

FWIW...our electric company uses JC-## codes for calling in power outages..I think you may have something there  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: abbey09 on January 14, 2009, 02:17:45 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
The thought passed through my mind and then it was like pleaseeeeeeeeee my head is going to explode. 

OMG.  Ok, i something i never reveal, but in my former life i was married to a cop and different sectors are divided into Adam, Baker, Charlie, David, etc. ...T = TIME,  the number following the letter indicates the officer working a particular sector that day.  It can change day to day.  Like one day you might be working Charlie 2, so when the dispatch calls you they will say Charlie 2.  At least that is the way it worked in my county up north.  So I would be interested in knowing all the officers that have worked as TIMER 55.  She dated a cop so she would definitely know the system


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 02:19:24 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
YES ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 02:21:47 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


Hmm.. Good one. We need a map of the areas in Orlando? To figure out which corresponds with T-55. I'm trying to google various things and not coming up with much so far.

I was wondering if the T-56 ex..are the codes the police use for the areas.. ::MonkeyTongue::

FWIW...our electric company uses JC-## codes for calling in power outages..I think you may have something there  ::MonkeyCool::

I found some district maps for Orange County.  The water maps have "T" but no 55...

ftp://ftp.onetgov.net/divisions/Utilities/pub/GIS/AdobeAcrobatReaderPDF/CountyWide/CommissionDistricts.pdf (http://ftp://ftp.onetgov.net/divisions/Utilities/pub/GIS/AdobeAcrobatReaderPDF/CountyWide/CommissionDistricts.pdf)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 02:22:04 PM
Is it possible that T-56 is the meter reader Roy Kronk's assigned meter readering area? And that there is another meter reader with the assignment of T-55? Two things are standing out in my mind: LP mentioning on NG that "meter readers working together" when the remains news first broke, and Roy saying on GMA yesterday that "WE got off work at 1:30 and our shift didn't end until 2:30" on 8/11 or something like that, implying that he and another meter reader were searching the area together during their last hour on the job???!!!!
And also the first time we saw Kronk he had a prepared statement, and in it he said something about the media leaving his fellow workers alone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 02:22:22 PM
Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

<snipped>
The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,7346015.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 02:23:54 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
YES ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh my.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

<snipped>
The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,7346015.story

Need membership to read Trimm  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 02:26:58 PM
T-55???!!! Either this is the strangest coincidence or I have been smoking bad weed again!!!!


:2rofl: :2rofl: :2rofl: :2rofl:


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 02:27:16 PM
THNAKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE GUYS!

Forgot to add that if you close your eyes and just listen to Murt, he sounds exactly like Kermit The Frog!!   :smt045

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I thought he sounded more like Howard Sprague from the Andy Griffen show. ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::   What ever happened to his "4 million viewers site"???   Anyone go there?    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 14, 2009, 02:27:17 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
YES ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh my.  ::MonkeyShocked::

i agree, i bet there is a t-55 area!  ::MonkeyConfused::

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 02:29:15 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!

Click on the picture below, it's the video of GMA:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)
Thank You so much Klaas.......A friend that is a couselor for the local police station was over here talking to me and wanted to hear it, and I didnt have time to look it up,   OMG  did he have some interesting thinks to say about Mr.Kronk....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 02:29:25 PM
Is it possible that T-56 is the meter reader Roy Kronk's assigned meter readering area? And that there is another meter reader with the assignment of T-55? Two things are standing out in my mind: LP mentioning on NG that "meter readers working together" when the remains news first broke, and Roy saying on GMA yesterday that "WE got off work at 1:30 and our shift didn't end until 2:30" on 8/11 or something like that, implying that he and another meter reader were searching the area together during their last hour on the job???!!!!
And also the first time we saw Kronk he had a prepared statement, and in it he said something about the media leaving his fellow workers alone.

Yeah! I remember that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but the house on Brackenwood has back taxes due since 2006.
I don't know about FL but in OK when my brother didn't pay my mom's house taxes that a noticed was mail about 4 months past the due date of notice that the property certificate would be offered at auction.The certificate was purchased and when I got there later I paid it off and the purchaser of the certificate was paid the interest on it. If we hadn't paid it he could have claimed the property 2 years from purchase of certificate.

They owe about $5700. by now.


Can I ask where you find that? I was searching and searching to no avail and assumed there were no delinquent taxes.  Google has been mean to me lately.
www.orangeclerk.net (http://www.orangeclerk.net)

If you are on AOL use your internet explorer. You can search property tax records by address. That main page has everything you can check on in Orange county including the court records.


Thanks!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Russ on January 14, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???


Now I get it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:33:19 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
YES ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh my.  ::MonkeyShocked::

i agree, i bet there is a t-55 area!  ::MonkeyConfused::

wendi

At one point way back...someone posted a list of calls to the Anthony home..could the T-55 designation be on that list ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 02:33:31 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!

Click on the picture below, it's the video of GMA:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)
Thank You so much Klaas.......A friend that is a couselor for the local police station was over here talking to me and wanted to hear it, and I didnt have time to look it up,   OMG  did he have some interesting thinks to say about Mr.Kronk....
I can just imagine. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:35:33 PM

At one point way back...someone posted a list of calls to the Anthony home..could the T-55 designation be on that list ?

sry...I should clarify..the list of police calls..what they came for etc..  was around the time of the protesters and KC calling police


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 02:37:29 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!

Click on the picture below, it's the video of GMA:

Thank You so much Klaas.......A friend that is a couselor for the local police station was over here talking to me and wanted to hear it, and I didnt have time to look it up,   OMG  did he have some interesting thinks to say about Mr.Kronk....
I can just imagine. ::MonkeyEek::

Me too.  I've never felt good about him.   I hope he's not involved - but I'm not so sure.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:39:39 PM
could someone post the link to Kronks interview with GMA yesterday  morning please!

Click on the picture below, it's the video of GMA:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/th_102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/?action=view&current=102E054F_090113_gma_caylee.flv)
Thank You so much Klaas.......A friend that is a couselor for the local police station was over here talking to me and wanted to hear it, and I didnt have time to look it up,   OMG  did he have some interesting thinks to say about Mr.Kronk....
I can just imagine. ::MonkeyEek::

I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: jr on January 14, 2009, 02:39:58 PM

At one point way back...someone posted a list of calls to the Anthony home..could the T-55 designation be on that list ?

sry...I should clarify..the list of police calls..what they came for etc..  was around the time of the protesters and KC calling police
I wonder if that could possibly be a "tower number"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 02:41:05 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

I've been trying to catch up alittle more today.It seem's we have endless pages about the area Caylee was found.All this code breaking stuff..I dunno but I'm going to have to go on the record and say it's all coincidence.No way would Casey ever be that smart unless she absolutly for certain wanted her to be found.I just do not think Casey Anthony is as intelligent as this whole scenario would make her.Personally,I think she is as dumb as a board and very much a simpleton.It seem's she has proven this from the very beginning.She kills her daughter and tosses her directly off the road almost a stone throw from her house.Not the brightest crayon in the box..jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 14, 2009, 02:41:08 PM
Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco | Sentinel Staff Writer
11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

<snipped>
The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely.

Article:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,7346015.story

Need membership to read Trimm  ::MonkeyConfused::



Try this. Sea.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-bk-casey-anthony-011409,0,4103662.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
Hi Sparky !

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 02:43:11 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 02:45:32 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???


Now I get it. 

Just got back from scrubbing the kitchen floor. Wow first thing I though too was TIMER 55!! WOW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

I've been trying to catch up alittle more today.It seem's we have endless pages about the area Caylee was found.All this code breaking stuff..I dunno but I'm going to have to go on the record and say it's all coincidence.No way would Casey ever be that smart unless she absolutly for certain wanted her to be found.I just do not think Casey Anthony is as intelligent as this whole scenario would make her.Personally,I think she is as dumb as a board and very much a simpleton.It seem's she has proven this from the very beginning.She kills her daughter and tosses her directly off the road almost a stone throw from her house.Not the brightest crayon in the box..jmo

Thanks for the reality check TATER!  ITA about her not being smart, just lucky I think.  It is however easy to get caught up in all the hoopla!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 14, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

Scary but very interesting profession.......
Do you think casey did this on purpose?
I do, but would like your input on this.

Lucinda, i just wanted to say i ALWAYS ENJOY READING YOU POSTS! i am usually so far behind, i hate to post when i am behind. sometimes i feel ignored, but then i realize that maybe they feel the same way. i have felt ignored before & even stupid for what i post, but that being said, i know all the monkey's are here for Caylee! i hate it when anyone is feeling down, but that just shows you have feelings-SOMETHING KC DOESN'T!!!!!!! IMO.
i don't know how to give you my e-mail address, but if you want it, (if you want to talk) i'm sure there is way to get it to you! i think you are a SMART & INSIGHTFUL MONKEY!

PS-i still haven't got the copy & paste down yet!
PSS-i had to google "how to google" lol

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 02:47:45 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.

Same here.  PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 02:49:17 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 02:50:03 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???


Now I get it. 

Just got back from scrubbing the kitchen floor. Wow first thing I though too was TIMER 55!! WOW!

Does anyone know police codes for areas? Casey did get to know alot of police in Florida!
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 02:50:21 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

I've been trying to catch up alittle more today.It seem's we have endless pages about the area Caylee was found.All this code breaking stuff..I dunno but I'm going to have to go on the record and say it's all coincidence.No way would Casey ever be that smart unless she absolutly for certain wanted her to be found.I just do not think Casey Anthony is as intelligent as this whole scenario would make her.Personally,I think she is as dumb as a board and very much a simpleton.It seem's she has proven this from the very beginning.She kills her daughter and tosses her directly off the road almost a stone throw from her house.Not the brightest crayon in the box..jmo

I agree that Casey is dumb but I'm wondering if her alter ego Zanny is smarter?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 02:50:34 PM
VIDEO Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk

 (http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html)Includes statement by Conway


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 02:50:56 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:51:51 PM

PS-i still haven't got the copy & paste down yet!
PSS-i had to google "how to google" lol

wendi

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

(((ducking the pretty kittys claws)))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

Scary but very interesting profession.......
Do you think casey did this on purpose?
I do, but would like your input on this.

Lucinda, i just wanted to say i ALWAYS ENJOY READING YOU POSTS! i am usually so far behind, i hate to post when i am behind. sometimes i feel ignored, but then i realize that maybe they feel the same way. i have felt ignored before & even stupid for what i post, but that being said, i know all the monkey's are here for Caylee! i hate it when anyone is feeling down, but that just shows you have feelings-SOMETHING KC DOESN'T!!!!!!! IMO.
i don't know how to give you my e-mail address, but if you want it, (if you want to talk) i'm sure there is way to get it to you! i think you are a SMART & INSIGHTFUL MONKEY!

PS-i still haven't got the copy & paste down yet!
PSS-i had to google "how to google" lol

wendi

I second Wendi's thoughts as well, Lucinda.  Just wanna add, you always "crack me up" and I could never ignore you....You're an AWESOME monkey!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 02:53:09 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 02:54:08 PM
VIDEO Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk

 (http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html)Includes statement by Conway


Thanks.    If the family wants to know how Caylee died, all they have to do is ask their murdering daughter!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 02:54:18 PM
Maps use letters and numbers for coordinates so that you can find a specific location.

ABC Street is located at B 13.  So you draw a line down from b and then a line across at 13 and where they intersect is ABC Street. 

Hope that is clear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Tater on January 14, 2009, 02:54:34 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

I've been trying to catch up alittle more today.It seem's we have endless pages about the area Caylee was found.All this code breaking stuff..I dunno but I'm going to have to go on the record and say it's all coincidence.No way would Casey ever be that smart unless she absolutly for certain wanted her to be found.I just do not think Casey Anthony is as intelligent as this whole scenario would make her.Personally,I think she is as dumb as a board and very much a simpleton.It seem's she has proven this from the very beginning.She kills her daughter and tosses her directly off the road almost a stone throw from her house.Not the brightest crayon in the box..jmo

I agree that Casey is dumb but I'm wondering if her alter ego Zanny is smarter?

I guess first Klaas,it would have to be determined she has alters and I don't even buy that.I think she simply swiped the name from the apartment rental place she was at and ran with it. That would be more like the path a liar and thief would take.Simple for a simpleton....jmo again...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 02:55:31 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)

Hmmmm...do you live in Arkansas ? when I opened it, I got a map of Vermont  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 14, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

ITA..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 14, 2009, 02:56:41 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 02:57:03 PM

Lucinda, i just wanted to say i ALWAYS ENJOY READING YOU POSTS! i am usually so far behind, i hate to post when i am behind. sometimes i feel ignored, but then i realize that maybe they feel the same way. i have felt ignored before & even stupid for what i post, but that being said, i know all the monkey's are here for Caylee! i hate it when anyone is feeling down, but that just shows you have feelings-SOMETHING KC DOESN'T!!!!!!! IMO.
i don't know how to give you my e-mail address, but if you want it, (if you want to talk) i'm sure there is way to get it to you! i think you are a SMART & INSIGHTFUL MONKEY!

PS-i still haven't got the copy & paste down yet!
PSS-i had to google "how to google" lol

wendi

Wendi: How To Copy and Paste

1. First, you'll need to select the text you wish to copy. You do this by putting your mouse cursor at the first character you want to copy and, holding down the left mouse button, drag the cursor to the last character you need copied. As you drag, you'll notice everything gets highlighted (selected).

2. Next, right-click the selected area. Choose Copy from the menu that pops up (or you can use CTRL-C if you like keyboard shortcuts).

3. Finally, right-click the area in your e-mail document where you would like to insert the word processor text. Click Paste from the menu that pops up (For this, CTRL-V is your keyboard shortcut).

That's it. The steps are basically the same for any copy & paste procedure you need to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: islandmonkey on January 14, 2009, 02:57:17 PM
Islandmonkey:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4248.msg626372#msg626372

 ::MonkeyCool:: lovin

Lovin:

just left you a note there~Island ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

Thanks. Cool! I was hoping a monkey with more of an eagle eye than I could take this ball and run with it!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Today on January 14, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 03:00:31 PM
VIDEO Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk

 (http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html)Includes statement by Conway


Thanks for sharing that, Today.  I wish Conway would just Shut the He!! up already.  Maybe if Cindy got up off her a$$ to help search for her grand daughter she might've been found in August too....So there...take that!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 03:01:22 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

ITA..... ::MonkeyTongue::
OH GOSH.......my friend just said somethings that I would have never thought of by myself, Mr.Kronk is full of crap,,,,,,,,,,,something very fishy is going on with him................this is not good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 03:02:41 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/aerial1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/aerial2-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:03:38 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

OH Goodness, when I posted that article said that he likes to fling his poooo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:03:42 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have a tremendous respect and admiration for really sharp smartazzes and you're a great one flossy!  ::MonkeyWink::

That's a great map, but like SS, I got a map first of TN.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:04:15 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

flossy, you ALWAYS make me laugh.   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 03:04:57 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

ITA..... ::MonkeyTongue::
OH GOSH.......my friend just said somethings that I would have never thought of by myself, Mr.Kronk is full of crap,,,,,,,,,,,something very fishy is going on with him................this is not good!

Funny, my hubby has said that from the get-go! I kept saying to him, "But everyone keeps saying he is not a suspect." But my hubby said, "No way."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/aerial1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/aerial2-1.jpg)

WHOA! You are good!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:06:34 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..

http://www.wftv.com/video/18477320/index.html

Here it is..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 03:06:51 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

ITA..... ::MonkeyTongue::
OH GOSH.......my friend just said somethings that I would have never thought of by myself, Mr.Kronk is full of crap,,,,,,,,,,,something very fishy is going on with him................this is not good!

Ok.I just came back in and see this...HH please explain EXACTLY (if you can) what we are supposed to be listening FOR and what your friend said that you would never have thought of............

Dang I hate riddles!!! (mainly cause I am not good with them ::MonkeyNoNo::) I pefer crossword puzzles ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:07:19 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

OH Goodness, when I posted that article said that he likes to fling his poooo.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Cubbee's in Florida??



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:07:30 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)

Hmmmm...do you live in Arkansas ? when I opened it, I got a map of Vermont  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, SS mine opened up to the area I live too. Shocked me for a second cause I wasn't expecting it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..
No I havent....please if you can find it Id love to look at it and let my friend see it also,    but  if you could only hear what he said about this guy, its not good.....Kronk had something to do with all this...he is possitive about this!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

Sea Searcher???  Strong winds, he needs a sail for his boat...   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:09:51 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)

Hmmmm...do you live in Arkansas ? when I opened it, I got a map of Vermont  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, SS mine opened up to the area I live too. Shocked me for a second cause I wasn't expecting it.

Forgot to add, someone did a great job! Too bad I couldn't figure out how to do it!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm not computer illiterated by any means, just haven't really taken the time to figure it all out. It's a great resource though, thanks for posting it IC!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 14, 2009, 03:11:15 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have a tremendous respect and admiration for really sharp smartazzes and you're a great one flossy!  ::MonkeyWink::

That's a great map, but like SS, I got a map first of TN.

CBB, that's a big compliment coming from you! I've seen you come up with a few good ones yourself! Sometimes, I have to bite my tongue fingers because I don't ever want anyone to feel like I'm making fun of them.  I had to laugh at that sentence, though, because it can be taken so many different ways!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:12:02 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

Thanks. Cool! I was hoping a monkey with more of an eagle eye than I could take this ball and run with it!  ::MonkeyCool::

I didn't see any photo's focused on that house either. You could see the house in a couple of the shots, though none were focused on that house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: JodyO on January 14, 2009, 03:12:45 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.

Yes, it looks like they had no particular interest in the "abandoned" house. They were only interested in the "groupings of homes" in relation to where the remains were found and to the Anthony home. Every time I see these neighborhood pix, I wonder where Lee's former house was in relation to the "abandoned" house and the site where Caylee was found. I've seen pix where Lee lived from the Anthony's, maybe where he lived in relation to where Caylee was found, not sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 14, 2009, 03:12:56 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..
No I havent....please if you can find it Id love to look at it and let my friend see it also,    but  if you could only hear what he said about this guy, its not good.....Kronk had something to do with all this...he is possitive about this!

Can you elaborate?    ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: anothermonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:13:22 PM

OMG.  Ok, i something i never reveal, but in my former life i was married to a cop and different sectors are divided into Adam, Baker, Charlie, David, etc. ...T = TIME,  the number following the letter indicates the officer working a particular sector that day.  It can change day to day.  Like one day you might be working Charlie 2, so when the dispatch calls you they will say Charlie 2.  At least that is the way it worked in my county up north.  So I would be interested in knowing all the officers that have worked as TIMER 55.  She dated a cop so she would definitely know the system
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
O/T

I had a laptop that died right before Christmas - and sent it in to the Geeks to have it repaired.   The first thing they did was run virus scans on it - to make sure it wasn't just a virus.   They ran a back up of all my files (cost $100 but worth it cause I have a lot of music and photo files).   Then they wiped it clean.  (charged me $129).    I got it back - and it still wouldn't connect to the wireless internet so they took it back and sent it away to have the wireless adaptor repaired.   They also installed a new mother board.  Got it back yesterday and the first thing I did was run my virus protection on it.   Found out it had TWO trojans put on it - one a hacking tool.   

So, if you send your computer out for repairs, make sure you run your protections before you start using it again.   Geez.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:14:08 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have a tremendous respect and admiration for really sharp smartazzes and you're a great one flossy!  ::MonkeyWink::

That's a great map, but like SS, I got a map first of TN.

Memphis right ?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 14, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That was great!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  I gave up.  I was too far behind. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Fuzzball on January 14, 2009, 03:16:31 PM
Still trying to make money off this poor baby. They should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. It makes me so angry and so sad for Caylee.

 January 13, 2009 - Tuesday
   

Caylee Shirt Request Questions





This is a response to many of you who have written us requests for shirts and bracelets from the search for Caylee Marie; we still have some left and if you would like to purchase them please follow these steps:

Please mail your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, and what you would like to purchase (shirt/bracelet) and size to George Anthony: cost $10


Checks payable to: Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
The Anthony Family
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829



Any questions or requests for contribution deposits may be directed to
Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


Or questions about shirts or bracelets to George:
georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Can we get a list of the names of the many requesters....GMAB
     

Probably some sick people who want them as souveneirs. Why would people want something for a missing child, that was never missing?? Even worse, she was found, dead. Some people are just crazy, crazier than the craziest monkey!!

Sick. If I were the A's I'd just ignore all those requests. Assuming there really are any.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 14, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
O/T

I had a laptop that died right before Christmas - and sent it in to the Geeks to have it repaired.   The first thing they did was run virus scans on it - to make sure it wasn't just a virus.   They ran a back up of all my files (cost $100 but worth it cause I have a lot of music and photo files).   Then they wiped it clean.  (charged me $129).    I got it back - and it still wouldn't connect to the wireless internet so they took it back and sent it away to have the wireless adaptor repaired.   They also installed a new mother board.  Got it back yesterday and the first thing I did was run my virus protection on it.   Found out it had TWO trojans put on it - one a hacking tool.   

So, if you send your computer out for repairs, make sure you run your protections before you start using it again.   Geez.   

OH that was REAL nice of them....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 03:17:50 PM
Does anyone know if the A's were in town when DC was out there staging this video???  Or were they conveniently out of town or otherwise occupied as they were the day Caylee's remains were found?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 14, 2009, 03:18:02 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That was great!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  I gave up.  I was too far behind. 

I don't blame ya, Grandma!  Sometimes reading back just gets me even more behind!  (And I don't just mean my butt grows!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have a tremendous respect and admiration for really sharp smartazzes and you're a great one flossy!  ::MonkeyWink::

That's a great map, but like SS, I got a map first of TN.

Memphis right ?  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: No, but I claim him anyway!!!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
Thanks Klaas, I guess I did see them before! Yours are much better though fwiw.

BTW I wanted to say thank you for being so patient with those that are not as computer competent as yourself.  You are always polite and "dumb down" everything for us to understand.  I know that takes a lot of patience.  On of your MANY great qualities!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: mstam656 on January 14, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
Hi again Monkeys!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

I've been trying to catch up alittle more today.It seem's we have endless pages about the area Caylee was found.All this code breaking stuff..I dunno but I'm going to have to go on the record and say it's all coincidence.No way would Casey ever be that smart unless she absolutly for certain wanted her to be found.I just do not think Casey Anthony is as intelligent as this whole scenario would make her.Personally,I think she is as dumb as a board and very much a simpleton.It seem's she has proven this from the very beginning.She kills her daughter and tosses her directly off the road almost a stone throw from her house.Not the brightest crayon in the box..jmo

I agree with you Tater, however it does amaze me how many people she has manipulated and/or conned....just look at all the lives she has screwed up and/or ruined!!!  Unbelievable!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:18:59 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????


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Hide your pets!!!!!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:21:17 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.

Actually you're right rm. I do remember seeing shots of sections of neighborhoods, that looked nothing like the surrounding streets, they looked like much larger homes. I did wonder why they had shots of those homes. Would have to look on birdseye maps to see if I could find them. I imagine they are somewhere nearby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 03:21:39 PM
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SPECIES: CYCLOP SLORE (rare)
GENUS:   MAMMAL/VAMPIRE
GENDER:  BITCH
FEEDING HABITS: PREFERS LIQUIDS CONTAINING ALCOHOL. WILL CONSUME TO OVERFLOW.
BEHAVIOR: MAJOR THREAT TO HUMANS. HAS BEEN KNOWN TO KILL THEIR YOUNG.
CURRENT STATUS: NOT YET ON THE ENDANGERED LIST, BUT WE'RE TRYING..........

 
ROFLMFAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 03:22:12 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)

Hmmmm...do you live in Arkansas ? when I opened it, I got a map of Vermont  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, SS mine opened up to the area I live too. Shocked me for a second cause I wasn't expecting it.

Forgot to add, someone did a great job! Too bad I couldn't figure out how to do it!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm not computer illiterated by any means, just haven't really taken the time to figure it all out. It's a great resource though, thanks for posting it IC!

Mine opened up to my area too but after a few seconds of loading the Caylee info "kicks" in. Try again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 03:22:49 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????


(http://th154.photobucket.com/albums/s245/CDShep66/Animated%20Animals/Monkeys/th_monkey.gif) Look out, Monkey on the loose!!!! (http://th154.photobucket.com/albums/s245/CDShep66/Animated%20Animals/Monkeys/th_monkey.gif)

Hide your pets!!!!!
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Dang it!  SeaSearcher unhand my Jack Russell!!  Silly monkey go back to flingin the poo and sailing....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 14, 2009, 03:23:22 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????


(http://th154.photobucket.com/albums/s245/CDShep66/Animated%20Animals/Monkeys/th_monkey.gif) Look out, Monkey on the loose!!!! (http://th154.photobucket.com/albums/s245/CDShep66/Animated%20Animals/Monkeys/th_monkey.gif)

Hide your pets!!!!!
(http://th89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/bcburdoa/th_122018368047.png)

***************************************************

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Ha!  I am not far from the area.  It is a little breezy out there but not enough to?  Did they say why the winds are slowing down the search?  Is it giving the chimp a headstart swinging through the trees?  Slowing down their vehicles?  What?

I love your laughing monkey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:25:22 PM
QuietMonkey has run amuk!

Flossy has no idea about "Blog Butt", but give her a few years and she'll wonder what that is that keeps following her.

Sassy, I've had three computers commit suicide during my tenure at SM. Each effort at repair left me with homicidal thoughts and broke. I'm sorry this happened to you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: flossy on January 14, 2009, 03:25:36 PM
I'm thinking that loose Monkey had burritos for dinner, hence the "strong winds".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 03:25:57 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..
No I havent....please if you can find it Id love to look at it and let my friend see it also,    but  if you could only hear what he said about this guy, its not good.....Kronk had something to do with all this...he is possitive about this!
In what respect, that Kronk had something to do with all this, I don't understand. I've been suspicious of him from the start. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 03:26:31 PM
O/T

I had a laptop that died right before Christmas - and sent it in to the Geeks to have it repaired.   The first thing they did was run virus scans on it - to make sure it wasn't just a virus.   They ran a back up of all my files (cost $100 but worth it cause I have a lot of music and photo files).   Then they wiped it clean.  (charged me $129).    I got it back - and it still wouldn't connect to the wireless internet so they took it back and sent it away to have the wireless adaptor repaired.   They also installed a new mother board.  Got it back yesterday and the first thing I did was run my virus protection on it.   Found out it had TWO trojans put on it - one a hacking tool.   

So, if you send your computer out for repairs, make sure you run your protections before you start using it again.   Geez.   

OH that was REAL nice of them....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know, right???     ::MonkeyNoNo::       I guess that was a Christmas present from them!    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: pink angel on January 14, 2009, 03:26:35 PM
Does anyone know if the A's were in town when DC was out there staging this video???  Or were they conveniently out of town or otherwise occupied as they were the day Caylee's remains were found?

It was the day of the nifty "meet and greet". The 15th.
A perfect guise to get the media focus off the Anthony house and the Anthony neighborhood, so the PI could poke around the area without being spotted by media.....dontcha think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 03:26:37 PM
Ha!  I am not far from the area.  It is a little breezy out there but not enough to?  Did they say why the winds are slowing down the search?  Is it giving the chimp a headstart swinging through the trees?  Slowing down their vehicles?  What?

I love your laughing monkey!
Ah ha!  So you could be harboring the criminal monkey....or aiding and abedding!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
I'm thinking that loose Monkey had burritos for dinner, hence the "strong winds".

That's it. I'm installing monitor windshield wipers, and you owe me a cup of coffee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
When I look at those aerial pictures that were taken and I see that tent set up where Caylee was found. It just seems so crazy. It's like she was right there and everybody but this Kronk guy missed it.  I know the area was covered in water and stuff like that but it just seems so close to the road. I don't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sassycat on January 14, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
I guess we're gonna have to...unless HH starts talking..  <snipp>


    Give and old Lady time here, I thought he was leaving but he was still talking about something very interesting and before I go into it it all,    when Kronk says they got off at 2pm  and he didnt call anything in until  9....does he mean 9pm?..........tell me he is not saying 9pm....
Yes he said he called at 9 or 9:30pm, at least that is what I thought.
Why in the  world would someone wait until 9pm to call the police about something they saw between 1pm and 2pm in the afternoon, he was off work.....why wait until 9pm to call....OMG.......if you really listen to what he says in that interview.....really listen good.....................I think he just said some stuff that put himself in a bad light!

HH...have you seen the WFTV (I believe) video of an analyst that went step by step through Kronks interview, commenting on the inconsistencies and question marks that he thought was ammo (for lack of a better word) for the defence.. to discredit the validity of evidence at the site where Caylee's remains were found ?.. I'll see if I can locate it..I think Trimm posted it last night

It definitely made me go hmmmm..
No I havent....please if you can find it Id love to look at it and let my friend see it also,    but  if you could only hear what he said about this guy, its not good.....Kronk had something to do with all this...he is possitive about this!
In what respect, that Kronk had something to do with all this, I don't understand. I've been suspicious of him from the start. ::MonkeyEek::

Me too.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: WesleyBear on January 14, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
I just got done reading the Orange County Sheriff report on the police response dated 8/13/2008 to Roy Kronk- Roy/meter Reader /T-56

T-56 is that the area they responded to...If so where is T-55

My head is spinning...Thoughts going through my head.. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyConfused::


http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html


HHHmmmmm, got my attention!


WOW ... Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? T-55 = TIMER 55???
YES ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh my.  ::MonkeyShocked::
I dont understand...what does this mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:29:15 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

Sea Searcher???  Strong winds, he needs a sail for his boat...   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyEek:: you're awfully cute, when you're trying to start trouble  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:30:41 PM
Wesley? I can't answer you because I've been waiting for someone to ask! So, thanks and I'll be watching, too!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: WesleyBear on January 14, 2009, 03:33:52 PM
Wesley? I can't answer you because I've been waiting for someone to ask! So, thanks and I'll be watching, too!  ::MonkeyWink::
Ok well we will sit and watch and wait together   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 03:34:41 PM
Was this already posted?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-011409,0,7346015.story

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-01/44510630.jpg)

Canadian forensic anthropologist joins Casey Anthony's defense
Walter Pacheco

Sentinel Staff Writer

11:59 AM EST, January 14, 2009

The head of the forensic science department at a Canadian university is the newest member to join Casey Anthony's defense team.

Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve, chair of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Ontario, will be helping attorney Jose Baez's team as an expert consultant in the search, recovery and analysis of human skeletal remains.

"My role in the case is basically peer review," Fairgrieve told the Orlando Sentinel. "I will be reviewing reports on the evidence. So far everything I've done has been remotely."

The forensic anthropologist said the interest in the case against Casey Anthony has not reached the media frenzy in Canada as it has across the U.S.

"When I was first contacted by Mr. Baez, I had no idea about the case," Fairgrieve said. "But it is an interesting case. The allegations are disturbing and the discovery of the remains should be disturbing to all involved."

Fairgrieve, who is also a consultant for the northeastern regional forensic pathology unit in Sudbury, Ontario, had helped Baez in October regarding the use of cadaver dogs.

Crime scene technicians with the Orange County Sheriff's Office used cadaver dogs in July to search the backyard of the home Caylee Marie shared with her mother and grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The dogs sniffed the yard of the Hopespring Drive home, but found nothing, reports show. A cadaver dog also alerted on the trunk of Casey Anthony's car, indicating the presence of human-decomposition odor, but family members maintain the smell came from old pizza.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Shan1628 on January 14, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

Sea Searcher???  Strong winds, he needs a sail for his boat...   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyEek:: you're awfully cute, when you're trying to start trouble  ::MonkeyWink::

awww, not trying to start trouble!!!  You just seemed to be the OBVIOUS suspect...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:34:56 PM
HH...in all the monkey mess, did you get the link I posted..just in case

http://www.wftv.com/video/18477320/index.html

This actually is a new video of the same analys...the other is there also

I'd like to hear what your "friend" has to say about these when your able to tell us
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.

Actually you're right rm. I do remember seeing shots of sections of neighborhoods, that looked nothing like the surrounding streets, they looked like much larger homes. I did wonder why they had shots of those homes. Would have to look on birdseye maps to see if I could find them. I imagine they are somewhere nearby.

Looks like homes on Florence Harbor Dr. See this map link:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrdpqy86vgyx&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916581&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like these houses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 14, 2009, 03:35:34 PM
Thanks!  Now I'm going to try to read backwards and catch up.

G2M, studies show that reading backwards causes eye strain.  You might want to face the screen!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That was great!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  I gave up.  I was too far behind. 

I don't blame ya, Grandma!  Sometimes reading back just gets me even more behind!  (And I don't just mean my butt grows!)
LOL  I do think my butt has grown since I got addicted to reading here.  I'm really trying to watch what I eat to try to lose weight since my kidney disease makes me too tired to exercise. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 14, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
I have been reading along .... ahh

Digging too ... both My Monkeys and on the net

The Zenaida Almodovar name hmm -I found on Orange County site
this is the link - I am sure it will be screwed up

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewAttachment.jsp?docName=9194696&id=DOCC9194696.A0&parent=DOCC9194696

the Docc is the Document and number of is 9194696

The document shows a Request for Domicile from Puerto Rico 
Her named address in P.R. I chased and its a Bus Station and her New Address as stated on this form is a Tax Atty Business - the form was filled out and given to Orange County Clerk in 1993. Nothing pans out to be of anything ....

No Mortgages, Deeds, Anything at all with that Name in Orange county - Nufhin

I did find very interesting though - and take it as again another piece of Puzzle
The house on Brackenwood
First owner was Davis, then sold to a Single Man by the Name of Loda R. Moore who is from Ohio. Within the doc's I found he married a woman named Lisa. Then I found doc's showing Lisa with power of Atty over Loda R. Moore's estate with the Brackenwood Address - and her selling the House to Noemi Gonzales - not Naomi but Noemi 11/90.
Then Noemi sold the house to Hernan L. Gonzales/Elsa I. Gonzales.  I found too that Ms Elsa has two middle initials within documents. She is also known as Elsa A. which I found her to be in documents too with Hernan L. Gonzales with the Same Address attached.

There are other doc's on Loda R Moore and they are found on the Orange County Site
http://or.occompt.com - All my info is from this site.

He is stated to be part of the US Military within his/wife/power of atty doc's - and I chased his name - He is everywhere on the Net .. He must have been someone ( or still is Highly ranked ) has many articles .. of his Military Career. That is not a Name anyone can say ... Hmmm common. Serious Loda R. Moore.  ::MonkeyEek::

Carry On ...........






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: osucowboy on January 14, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: rmcalo on January 14, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.

Actually you're right rm. I do remember seeing shots of sections of neighborhoods, that looked nothing like the surrounding streets, they looked like much larger homes. I did wonder why they had shots of those homes. Would have to look on birdseye maps to see if I could find them. I imagine they are somewhere nearby.

Thanks. Yeah, I am going to try to post a few examples of these sort of "close-up" shots of groups of homes. I remember when the OCSO first released the photos, I kept wondering why they were zeroing in on sections of the neighborhood that did not include the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 14, 2009, 03:38:31 PM
Any thought on that Kronk was tipped off in order to profit in some way to get his belated alimony payments paid?  I don't trust the guy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:38:35 PM
Breaking News

One of our monkeys is still running loose in Florida.  Just reported on Headline news. They are having trouble catching him/her because of strong winds.  Strong winds????

Sea Searcher???  Strong winds, he needs a sail for his boat...   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyEek:: you're awfully cute, when you're trying to start trouble  ::MonkeyWink::

awww, not trying to start trouble!!!  You just seemed to be the OBVIOUS suspect...  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never throw poop at anyone...I'm usually the one pooped on  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.

Aw..........THANK YOU osucowboy!!! We got it now, and you posted before my request came in too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: WesleyBear on January 14, 2009, 03:40:00 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.
WOW....this is really crazy! How in the world can all of this be coincidence???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 14, 2009, 03:41:25 PM
I AM ALL READY!!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 03:41:27 PM
Any thought on that Kronk was tipped off in order to profit in some way to get his belated alimony payments paid?  I don't trust the guy.
Me either. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 03:42:16 PM
VIDEO Sheriff's Office Responds To Kronk

 (http://www.wesh.com/video/18473057/index.html)Includes statement by Conway


Thanks for sharing that, Today.  I wish Conway would just Shut the He!! up already.  Maybe if Cindy got up off her a$$ to help search for her grand daughter she might've been found in August too....So there...take that!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::

Back in August - Sin-dy only wanted to look for alive Caylee- Bashing everyone who wanted to  look for Caylee remains in woods, ponds, ect... ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
Any thought on that Kronk was tipped off in order to profit in some way to get his belated alimony payments paid?  I don't trust the guy.


With this wacky case, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.
WOW....this is really crazy! How in the world can all of this be coincidence???
This is all to weird to be coincidence. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Dolce on January 14, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never throw poop at anyone...I'm usually the one pooped on  ::MonkeyRoll::
SS step back from the computer...you have been around this case too long..you have contracted Cindyitus- symptoms include: denial and always having to be the victim. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: higherhopes on January 14, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
HH...in all the monkey mess, did you get the link I posted..just in case

http://www.FTC.com/video/18477320/index.HTML

This actually is a new video of the same analyse...the other is there also

I'd like to hear what your "friend" has to say about these when your able to tell us
 ::MonkeyCool::
Yes  I got it SS  thanks ......and he says that this guy is absolutely right........it was Defense strategy, to cause confusion and doubt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
I AM ALL READY!!  ::cartwheel::

Got it in gear, huh, Nut?

I felt guilty, because when you got the warning, I looked and it was page 96. I hadn't even noticed!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2009, 03:43:53 PM
HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 03:44:47 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never throw poop at anyone...I'm usually the one pooped on  ::MonkeyRoll::
SS step back from the computer...you have been around this case too long..you have contracted Cindyitus- symptoms include: denial and always having to be the victim. 
::MonkeyHaHa:: I hope we all don't catch it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:45:07 PM
 (http://th296.photobucket.com/albums/mm196/coolgirl551/th_152.gif) I'll meet everyone over in the new cage!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 03:45:08 PM
Did anyone notice that the OCSO took TONS of aerial views of the houses surrounding the site where Caylee's remains were found? I was just wondering if anyone could tell whether the 8718 Brackenwood house, where Dom Casey was scavenging about, was one of the houses they were focusing on. They zoomed in on a lot of homes that weren't the Anthonys' home. I have poured over all the OCSO images myself, but I can't tell if that 8718 Brackenwood was one of the homes. My head is hurting. I'm in information overload.

Here's the link:

http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/Default.aspx


TY rmcalo, I did not see this before.  Going to take a look right now!

I'm not certain exactly what rmcalo means by "one of the houses." I don't see any individual houses they focused on. The very first photo has the "abandoned" house pictured; others of the Brackenridge St. have it cut off and only show 3 or 4  of the houses nearest the site where the remains were found. Looks to me like they photographed the entire neighborhood in relation to the remains and zeroed in closer on hunks of it, but no individual homes.

Sorry, I didn't mean they focused in on any single individual home at any one time, but in several shots they DID focus in on individual groups of homes -- and some pretty small groupings of homes at that -- and these small groups of homes did not always include the Anthonys' home.

Actually you're right rm. I do remember seeing shots of sections of neighborhoods, that looked nothing like the surrounding streets, they looked like much larger homes. I did wonder why they had shots of those homes. Would have to look on birdseye maps to see if I could find them. I imagine they are somewhere nearby.

Thanks. Yeah, I am going to try to post a few examples of these sort of "close-up" shots of groups of homes. I remember when the OCSO first released the photos, I kept wondering why they were zeroing in on sections of the neighborhood that did not include the Anthony home.

Thanks for posting the crime scene pics- I forgot about them- I have enlarge a couple of homes of interest- checking them out... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:45:26 PM
Thank you , Klaas!!

You've always got what we need!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:46:31 PM
HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Does that mean there's another meter reader involved, Meter Reader T56????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
(http://th296.photobucket.com/albums/mm196/coolgirl551/th_152.gif) I'll meet everyone over in the new cage!!

BUCKLE UP FOR SAFETY!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: kitkat53 on January 14, 2009, 03:47:03 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.

Aw..........THANK YOU osucowboy!!! We got it now, and you posted before my request came in too!

Here is a video of Casey talking about timer55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo5eGV9AS0w


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 14, 2009, 03:47:07 PM
Ok, I don't know who to give credit to for this map I just found.  What this person has done, is to mark all the significant places in the Orlando area to the case.  There is a tidbit of info written about each location. 

When you first pull up the map, you will see a map of Arkansas, which makes me think whoever made it lives there.  If you click on the first link that says Caylee, then you will see all the pertinent locations.  They are on the left side of the map.

http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz (http://maps.live.com/?q=caylee&mkt=en-US&FORM=BYX2#JmNwPTI4LjQ4NzYyNCU3ZS04MS4yNjMzMjYmY2lkPUUwRkUwNzA5QTlBRjUzQ0UhMTMz)

Hmmmm...do you live in Arkansas ? when I opened it, I got a map of Vermont  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, SS mine opened up to the area I live too. Shocked me for a second cause I wasn't expecting it.

I live in Texas, but maybe my computer thinks I'm in AR!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:47:11 PM
HH...in all the monkey mess, did you get the link I posted..just in case

http://www.FTC.com/video/18477320/index.HTML

This actually is a new video of the same analyse...the other is there also

I'd like to hear what your "friend" has to say about these when your able to tell us
 ::MonkeyCool::
Yes  I got it SS  thanks ......and he says that this guy is absolutely right........it was Defense strategy, to cause confusion and doubt!

So your friend thinks Kronk has connections to Baez ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
Islandmonkey~
Back @ ya in musings...I hope this gets in before the big lock!
Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:47:33 PM

HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Does that mean there's another meter reader involved, Meter Reader T55????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Timer55 was Casey's Facebook account or password ( i think)  And when asked what that meant she said that was how long till Caylee's birthday and when she would be home.

Aw..........THANK YOU osucowboy!!! We got it now, and you posted before my request came in too!

Here is a video of Casey talking about timer55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo5eGV9AS0w

Thank you kitkat!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 14, 2009, 03:48:38 PM
I"ll be late to the new cage, gotta get little one off the bus!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:49:07 PM
This is like having a baby!!!!

PUSH!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 03:49:28 PM
I"ll be late to the new cage, gotta get little one off the bus!!

AWWW QM, we'll save ya a spot! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 14, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
Any thought on that Kronk was tipped off in order to profit in some way to get his belated alimony payments paid?  I don't trust the guy.

Kronk - the Man
He to me truly is a liar and has been working on his STORY he has construed way before he stumbled upon Caylee. - and He to me is not sincere. I do not trust him as far as I see him. He is not a Vigilante by any means. He and his insiders of cohorts .. I feel are trying very hard to dupe the Orange County LE. This has been a mission for him, and He now is stuck because It's not as easy as he thought it would be - or come out. He thinks he is smarter than the Ave Bear ... and his motives/story is being questioned ( for good reason) so now he is going to play the  I am Just a Citizen that wanted to help ..... BS.
Jmo - I think he is a dirty dog and that he has always been one ..
You can't be an Ave Citizen that was once a Bails Bondsman for years ..without learning Inside tricks  .... Send DOG to interview him and see what he says.. Hah.
* Dog was for BOO




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:51:55 PM


PUSH!!!

We're almost there

#%##@!  This is all your fault!!!! You have GOT to be kidding me????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: da sparkenator on January 14, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Hi Sparky !

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you  ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh that was a pleasant surprise!  I'm a little under the weather, I needed that!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 14, 2009, 03:52:03 PM
This is like having a baby!!!!

PUSH!!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 03:52:29 PM
I got lost!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 14, 2009, 03:52:53 PM

HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Does that mean there's another meter reader involved, Meter Reader T55????????

If T55 is the supervisor of Kronk, and neighbor of the Anthonys, then I'll know for sure this isn't a coincident.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
How is BOO feeling, anyone heard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
I got lost!!

Hang on to me Sunny, we're about to give birth!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 03:53:38 PM
or is everyone else lost??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
NUT?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Lovinlife on January 14, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
or is everyone else lost??

I think everyone else jumped ship with SeaSearcher!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 14, 2009, 03:54:56 PM
I got lost!!

Hang on to me Sunny, we're about to give birth!!!!

OH CBB not only was I lost but invisible!!  I WUB CBB!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Deenie on January 14, 2009, 03:54:59 PM
Locked I am guessin  ::MonkeyDance:: ........... Run Run to the New Cage ..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 14, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4384.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 14, 2009, 03:56:47 PM
T-55

Does it mean an area- Police report- Swap area T-56
Meter Reader emplyee number?
Police time number?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #90
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 14, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/Threadlock2.jpg)

>>>>>>>>>> # 91

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