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HEY MONKEYS!! OVER HERE! Wesley and I would appreciate some kind monkey explaining the source of excitment over this T 55 stuff! Thank you; Thank you very much! :smt100

Ha!  I am not far from the area.  It is a little breezy out there but not enough to?  Did they say why the winds are slowing down the search?  Is it giving the chimp a headstart swinging through the trees?  Slowing down their vehicles?  What?

I love your laughing monkey!

im here

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

This just in from the Florida Weather Channel:

 A real shit storm has hit Florida. A poo-flinging monkey is on the loose!

(sorry, couldn't let the loose monkey go!)

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

You always beat me.     ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I don't know how I do it.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I was just trying to be SS. He was probably reading his Globe.

With all the new players, finger pointing, and coincidences within this case I am waiting for LE to haul in Mickey Mouse.  Why not he lives in Orlando for cryin out loud I am sure he is on Cindy's list....you just wait he is next!

After carefully examining the police report dated August 13 that is posted :

1. Sawp area-T-56 ?

2. Roy Kronk/meter reader/T-56?

T-56 Is that an town area code for police department, if so where is the area for T-55
Could this be a Meter Readers Employees designated area?T-55
Could this be a Police number? T-55

 ::MonkeyTongue::

After carefully examining the police report dated August 13 that is posted :

1. Sawp area-T-56 ?

2. Roy Kronk/meter reader/T-56?

T-56 Is that an town area code for police department, if so where is the area for T-55
Could this be a Meter Readers Employees designated area?T-55
Could this be a Police number? T-55

 ::MonkeyTongue::

I think you're right Dolce, Winnie the Pooh better watch out too!!

I don't know how I do it.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I was just trying to be SS. He was probably reading his Globe.

That is how I read it too Jersey.

there are too damn many coincidences to be coincidences at all...

Oh she is not gonna get her meaty paws on my Pooh!  It will come to blows before that happens...he is here to help Remember Caylee!!  (Don't tell him I perfer Eeyor)

I wanted to wait and post here.  I think there are 2 reasons that the A's want to cremate little Caylee.  1. So that they can save thier daughters a$$ if they would ever need more evidence later. 2.  They also are tooooooooooooo cheap to pay for a nice funeral. 

I was going to post this in the new thread but I'll post here too.  Thinking that Casey's password or Timer55 could also be T-55.  The report below shows Roy Kronk is meter reader #T56.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/081308call.jpg)

I don't know how I do it.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I was just trying to be SS. He was probably reading his Globe.

But it also shows on the far right in the middle of the page SWAMP AREA T-56 then the next line BLU CAVALIER Maybe that isn't his number, but the part of town? IDK Just a thought. I am probably just grasping at something, sometimes JSM is a dumb monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm going with number 1.

But it also shows on the far right in the middle of the page SWAMP AREA T-56 then the next line BLU CAVALIER Maybe that isn't his number, but the part of town? IDK Just a thought. I am probably just grasping at something, sometimes JSM is a dumb monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ouch been working for hours on my 2nd post within this ( I have a note pad full)

I just put in what I wanted to say and I think me gots hit with the Doors ...closing Cage
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Kronk - the Man
He to me truly is a liar and has been working on his STORY he has construed way before he stumbled upon Caylee. - and He to me is not sincere. I do not trust him as far as I see him. He is not a Vigilante by any means. He and his insiders of cohorts .. I feel are trying very hard to dupe the Orange County LE. This has been a mission for him, and He now is stuck because It's not as easy as he thought it would be - or come out. He thinks he is smarter than the Ave Bear ... and his motives/story is being questioned ( for good reason) so now he is going to play the  I am Just a Citizen that wanted to help ..... BS.
Jmo - I think he is a dirty dog and that he has always been one ..
You can't be an Ave Citizen that was once a Bails Bondsman for years ..without learning Inside tricks  .... Send DOG to interview him and see what he says.. Hah.
* Dog was for BOO

---- right prior I posted  - 2nd post below

I have been reading along .... ahh

Digging too ... both My Monkeys and on the net

The Zenaida Almodovar name hmm -I found on Orange County site
this is the link - I am sure it will be screwed up

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewAttachment.jsp?docName=9194696&id=DOCC9194696.A0&parent=DOCC9194696

the Docc is the Document and number of is 9194696

The document shows a Request for Domicile from Puerto Rico
Her named address in P.R. I chased and its a Bus Station and her New Address as stated on this form is a Tax Atty Business - the form was filled out and given to Orange County Clerk in 1993. Nothing pans out to be of anything ....

No Mortgages, Deeds, Anything at all with that Name in Orange county - Nufhin

I did find very interesting though - and take it as again another piece of Puzzle
The house on Brackenwood
First owner was Davis, then sold to a Single Man by the Name of Loda R. Moore who is from Ohio. Within the doc's I found he married a woman named Lisa. Then I found doc's showing Lisa with power of Atty over Loda R. Moore's estate with the Brackenwood Address - and her selling the House to Noemi Gonzales - not Naomi but Noemi 11/90.
Then Noemi sold the house to Hernan L. Gonzales/Elsa I. Gonzales.  I found too that Ms Elsa has two middle initials within documents. She is also known as Elsa A. which I found her to be in documents too with Hernan L. Gonzales with the Same Address attached.

There are other doc's on Loda R Moore and they are found on the Orange County Site
http://or.occompt.com - All my info is from this site.

He is stated to be part of the US Military within his/wife/power of atty doc's - and I chased his name - He is everywhere on the Net .. He must have been someone ( or still is Highly ranked ) has many articles .. of his Military Career. That is not a Name anyone can say ... Hmmm common. Serious Loda R. Moore.

Carry On ........

Here is another close-up OCSO photo, which was released with all the crime scene photos. Where is this?

Apologies if the known location of this area is very obvious and I just am not seeing it. I have had to run from the computer several times to take care of baby. I don't even know what I am doing working on this. All of my time should be devoted to her. I just have become so perplexed and upset and addicted to finding out what the heck is going on with this case.

1 sounds good to me too.
NoRose,did anyone ever hear anthing else about the psychics phone statement?

Here is another close-up OCSO photo, which was released with all the crime scene photos. Where is this?

Apologies if the known location of this area is very obvious and I just am not seeing it. I have had to run from the computer several times to take care of baby. I don't even know what I am doing working on this. All of my time should be devoted to her. I just have become so perplexed and upset and addicted to finding out what the heck is going on with this case.

mstam656 wrote:
"I agree with you Tater, however it does amaze me how many people she has manipulated and/or conned....just look at all the lives she has screwed up and/or ruined!!!  Unbelievable!"

I think dumbness runs with dumbness which is why so many found themselves in her web caught like flies.Lives are ruined because they allowed the ruin.Even her friends look like a bunch of losers as far as I'm concerned.I may not be a genius but I sure am not a fool either.I would have asked,"where is Caylee" over and over again until I got a reasonable answer.One would have to ask why Caylee would be with the nanny while Casey is hanging out smoking dope and flinging on poles at the bars.Her behavior in that area alone would have made me start sleuthing.She never fooled LE and they are the only one's that count as far as I'm concerned.The rest deserve what they get and I have no sympathy for any of them..jmo

Anyone had a look at Annie's MySpace lately?It makes my skin crawl... ::MonkeyNoNo::

rm it's Florence Harbor Dr. right behind Hopespring, here's the map link:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrdq7w86vgq6&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27646307&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

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But it also shows on the far right in the middle of the page SWAMP AREA T-56 then the next line BLU CAVALIER Maybe that isn't his number, but the part of town? IDK Just a thought. [/b][/color] I am probably just grasping at something, sometimes JSM is a dumb monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

mstam656 wrote:
"I agree with you Tater, however it does amaze me how many people she has manipulated and/or conned....just look at all the lives she has screwed up and/or ruined!!!  Unbelievable!"

I think dumbness runs with dumbness which is why so many found themselves in her web caught like flies.Lives are ruined because they allowed the ruin.Even her friends look like a bunch of losers as far as I'm concerned.I may not be a genius but I sure am not a fool either.I would have asked,"where is Caylee" over and over again until I got a reasonable answer.One would have to ask why Caylee would be with the nanny while Casey is hanging out smoking dope and flinging on poles at the bars.Her behavior in that area alone would have made me start sleuthing.She never fooled LE and they are the only one's that count as far as I'm concerned.The rest deserve what they get and I have no sympathy for any of them..jmo

Anyone had a look at Annie's MySpace lately?It makes my skin crawl... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Right Joe- I was thinking T-55 is the area Casey put  our loving Caylee..Swap area- T-56 so I was wonder where is T-55... ::MonkeyTongue::

No, do you have a link to it?

I have to respectfully disagree with those that have suscpisions about Mr.Kronk. I think conspiracy theories have run amuk. I do believe Mr. Kronk, mainly because I could see the same type of behaviour from myself. Curious, going back more than once, etc...If someone analysis absolutely every move and every word someone says, they certainly can find fault! I think we will find at the end of the trial that Mr.Kronk's three phone calls end up being much ado about nothing. A distraction and that's about it. He felt blown off by LE and gave it up for awhile. Reassigned to the area, he decided to check again. To our relief and his great misfortune, he found little Caylee's body! There is no gain to the defense to have found the body. What they are doing now is spinning the discovery the best they can, but I do not believe it was part of a strategy...I think we should cut the meter man a break unless we have something concrete to pin on him. Other than that, he is just another victim getting thrown under the bus. JMHO

This is Annie Downing's MySpace. I check it periodically too. I never know what to make of her postings.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=39760803

No, do you have a link to it?

All I know is that she is having trouble with Verizon, and getting her phone records. Someone, and I don't know where I read it, says you can go online and see your calls, so there should not be any trouble. I'm starting to think PI Casey paid her money to come up with this story about her being on the phone with him. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'm going with number 1.

Thanks. Is that the road on which Lee Anthony used to live before moving back into the family home? I am too zapped to go look it up.

All I know is that she is having trouble with Verizon, and getting her phone records. Someone, and I don't know where I read it, says you can go online and see your calls, so there should not be any trouble. I'm starting to think PI Casey paid her money to come up with this story about her being on the phone with him. ::MonkeyRoll::

But it also shows on the far right in the middle of the page SWAMP AREA T-56 then the next line BLU CAVALIER Maybe that isn't his number, but the part of town? IDK Just a thought. I am probably just grasping at something, sometimes JSM is a dumb monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Deenie...thanks for your hard work, I don't trust the meter man, just can't pin point why I feel that way.

I agree with you 100%.  Mr. Kronk seemed to me to be a reliable, honest man.  While all of this coded stuff might be fun to play with, I too think that Casey is dumb as a brick and under no circumstances could she dream up a complicated coded plan.  IMO she didn't.  I certainly hope that my name never comes up because I do not want to be a victim of an internet witch hunt.

NG WANNABE   JANE VALEZ- MICHELLE just said "you CANT make this stuff UP",,(about psychic calling D.CASEY)



shes wrong..

I think you're right Dolce, Winnie the Pooh better watch out too!!

This is the street LA used to live on, it's in another neighborhood not too far from the A house, it's Eagle Feather:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nrfvp286v68v&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3916554&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

I tend to think it is FAR more likely that T55 means an area of town.  How in the world would Casey get his number????  I don't really understand how that could be.

Cremation is I believe so they can have Caylee to themselves - Jmo
If they were to do it. I think it would again another way of expressing Cindy/George WE have her back and she is ours again. Not for the reason why Normal people cremate their loved ones... its just another Retaliation between Cindy and Casey ...

Which is How I believe this all started in the first place - Casey and Cindy are the biggest Players and We all know it. Casey Hates her Mother to her Utter Core and the only reason why she claims today ... Mommy I love you is ... because Cindy is " Almighty and No One will Say I am a BAD MOTHER" ( she will never be finger pointed as Bad or Unworthy)  ....And Cindy is her Only Way OUT of Jail.
They both play off each other in a very sick way as Mother/Daughter.

Caylee is lost within all of this - because this Sick Demented Relationship of Casey and Cindy has been on going for almost 23 yrs.

I really too believe that if Casey would have had her Way .. Cindy would have been the Next one to go ...
The Fight within Cindy and Casey that Cindy said she was going to take Caylee and that she actually put her hands on Casey ..was what created Caylee's end. What I can't figure out is why Caylee had to pay. I understand the perception of Casey wanting to take Caylee away from Cindy ... to hurt Cindy.
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In Casey's Sick Twisted Mind though Fellow Monkeys I think this

That Once Caylee was out of the Picture and Gone forever - Cindy would have Nothing to Live For ~ that it might be enough for Cindy to off herself ... ( In Casey's Mind) or something along the lines.

I still feel that there is huge undisclosed info in regards to the relationship between Casey and Cindy - and I am sure LE know more than Even us Monkeys

mstam656 wrote:
"I agree with you Tater, however it does amaze me how many people she has manipulated and/or conned....just look at all the lives she has screwed up and/or ruined!!!  Unbelievable!"

I think dumbness runs with dumbness which is why so many found themselves in her web caught like flies.Lives are ruined because they allowed the ruin.Even her friends look like a bunch of losers as far as I'm concerned.I may not be a genius but I sure am not a fool either.I would have asked,"where is Caylee" over and over again until I got a reasonable answer.One would have to ask why Caylee would be with the nanny while Casey is hanging out smoking dope and flinging on poles at the bars.Her behavior in that area alone would have made me start sleuthing.She never fooled LE and they are the only one's that count as far as I'm concerned.The rest deserve what they get and I have no sympathy for any of them..jmo

Anyone had a look at Annie's MySpace lately?It makes my skin crawl... ::MonkeyNoNo::

He just does not set right with me - its my Gut ... and I dunno .. my gut says alot. 

Got a link to her myspace?

Got a link to her myspace?

I agree with you 100%.  Mr. Kronk seemed to me to be a reliable, honest man.  While all of this coded stuff might be fun to play with, I too think that Casey is dumb as a brick and under no circumstances could she dream up a complicated coded plan.  IMO she didn't.  I certainly hope that my name never comes up because

I do not want to be a victim of an internet witch hunt.

He just does not set right with me - its my Gut ... and I dunno .. my gut says alot. 

I think cremation is the best avenue to take for the Anthony's at this point and I for one hope it's so.The story is huge and there are way to many sicko's that would possibly steal the remains unless she is buried in an undisclosed place which I doubt is a possibility because of the magnitude of this case.The Anthony's do not owe the public rights to Caylee's remains.Caylee is at rest so whatever they choose is fine by me..jmo

It says FEED ME SEYMOUR!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

After carefully examining the police report dated August 13 that is posted :

1. Sawp area-T-56 ?

2. Roy Kronk/meter reader/T-56?

T-56 Is that an town area code for police department, if so where is the area for T-55
Could this be a Meter Readers Employees designated area?T-55
Could this be a Police number? T-55

 ::MonkeyTongue::

To me honest, reliable men pay child support ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Are you guys saying someone, anyone is making stuff up in this case??,,  Someone is lying??,,  I can't believe any of the nice people involved in this case are making stuff up.  I am gonna to hell with a big long nose for what i just wrote.  Could i be more sarcastic

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

speaking of Annie D - what I said and found and posted in the last Cage

That Fred Robinson and his Wife Barbara Neighbors of the Ant's owned a house up until last year that is walking distance from Annie's now residence. Lake Mary Jane

The Robinsons - mentioned by Lee in phone convo's to Casey in Jail - the Religious Neighbors ...

tis is never ending .....

T56 referes to Kronk, not a location.  On that same document you can see there is a code for the area reported as Beat:  20

It says FEED ME SEYMOUR!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

mstam656 wrote:
"I agree with you Tater, however it does amaze me how many people she has manipulated and/or conned....just look at all the lives she has screwed up and/or ruined!!!  Unbelievable!"

I think dumbness runs with dumbness which is why so many found themselves in her web caught like flies.Lives are ruined because they allowed the ruin.Even her friends look like a bunch of losers as far as I'm concerned.I may not be a genius but I sure am not a fool either.I would have asked,"where is Caylee" over and over again until I got a reasonable answer.One would have to ask why Caylee would be with the nanny while Casey is hanging out smoking dope and flinging on poles at the bars.Her behavior in that area alone would have made me start sleuthing.She never fooled LE and they are the only one's that count as far as I'm concerned.The rest deserve what they get and I have no sympathy for any of them..jmo

Anyone had a look at Annie's MySpace lately?It makes my skin crawl... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Famous People's Graves have been secured for Years - due to People stealing their headstones and or doing worse and such ... the one thing if the Ant's had a Brain they would allow a Headstone to be placed in a local cemetery with Caylee's name on it ..so People could pay their respects in her Memory. She is and has been the Child of a Million Prayers ..People will want to pay homage to her ...now and forever. Jmo  * Hugs

the responding officer for GA June 24th, stolen gas can incident was none other than Cain!

Famous People's Graves have been secured for Years - due to People stealing their headstones and or doing worse and such ... the one thing if the Ant's had a Brain they would allow a Headstone to be placed in a local cemetery with Caylee's name on it ..so People could pay their respects in her Memory. She is and has been the Child of a Million Prayers ..People will want to pay homage to her ...now and forever. Jmo  * Hugs

I'm going with number 1.

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face :) <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face :) <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

I agree with you 100%.  Mr. Kronk seemed to me to be a reliable, honest man.  While all of this coded stuff might be fun to play with, I too think that Casey is dumb as a brick and under no circumstances could she dream up a complicated coded plan.  IMO she didn't.  I certainly hope that my name never comes up because I do not want to be a victim of an internet witch hunt.

the responding officer for GA June 24th, stolen gas can incident was none other than Cain!

Deenie,

In one of Lee's convos with Casey, he says, Fred Robinson and his wife HOLLY. Then they share an awkward moment. If Barbara is his wife, who is Holly? Or what is HOLLY? Anyone know?  

I took it that she is happy she is dead.

 :smt102

I agree with you 100%.  Mr. Kronk seemed to me to be a reliable, honest man.  While all of this coded stuff might be fun to play with, I too think that Casey is dumb as a brick and under no circumstances could she dream up a complicated coded plan. IMO she didn't.  I certainly hope that my name never comes up because I do not want to be a victim of an internet witch hunt.

Deenie,

In one of Lee's convos with Casey, he says, Fred Robinson and his wife HOLLY. Then they share an awkward moment. If Barbara is his wife, who is Holly? Or what is HOLLY? Anyone know?  

I wish I knew, I have no clue.

I am not buying into the Kronk relationship yet.  He seemed genuine to me.  He is far from a perfect person, but I think he likely did find something suspicious in August and LE did nothing about it because of the water.  Without him trying again, and doing his own investigation, Caylee might never have been found, or it might have been found by the Anthonys and removed.

I am more angry that LE did not investigate his find in August.  HAd they investigated that find, we might have a different case on our hands as the manner of death may have been determined.

I took it that she is happy she is dead.

 :smt102

I took it that she is happy she is dead.

 :smt102

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face :) <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

This is Annie Downing's MySpace. I check it periodically too. I never know what to make of her postings.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=39760803

OK, here is a list of things that has been  found to be NOT RIGHT with the Roy Kronk interview and how he came to find Caylee's body.............

   1.  Kronk  himself says that he got off from work at 2:30pm,  why wait until 9:30--10:30 to call in something that you had seen or was suspicious  about 8 hours earlier......
    2. Again the second call, after he finds out nothing was done, was at 9:30--10:30pm.......why! 
    3. The police officer that shows up finally says ( according to Karon)  I dont see anything, UHH what is he a man or a mouse...why didn't he say something like look if I can see it I know you can....insist that this guy take a closer look, or call back to LE and make a complaint right then and there.
     4. Then he wants everybody to think that a rattlesnake scared off another Officer, well now didn't he just have a very handy picture of a snake he had killed before in the back of his truck. He couldnt have been too scared of snakes and so if this officer was, then he should have again called back to LE right then and there with a complaint!
     5.In this interview he says , and I quote (I use to be a boarding officer for the Coast guard and a Bail bonds man and Bounty hunter and I knew that this would be a good place with the swamp decay smell to hide a body)   well there you go he use to be those things........so he is saying he has experience......Casey wasn't any of those things so why would he think that she would come up with that idea? 
     6.Then he says, no body tipped me off, I figured this out all by myself.....Figured what out?  If he was so sure that this babies body was in this area, why wait another 4 months before going back to look, mad about how he was treated, why go back and look at all..........had to go relieve himself....Im not buying that, why even say he was going to relieve himself....its clear he went back again to look for the body and this time he decided that unless he said something like he had already seen the skull he wasnt gonna get what he wanted and that was officers going straight to the area of the remains...
     

   This guy is cleary being told something from someone.  I still think that it is the defense that knew all alone where this baby was and this Kronk guy was being used in some way.......

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

That could be, or are they neighbors?

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

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I doubt that. Annie might be "Xanny", but I don't think we have any reason to believe she wanted Caylee dead. I think that is all on Casey.  But who knows.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

I am not buying into the Kronk relationship yet.  He seemed genuine to me.  He is far from a perfect person, but I think he likely did find something suspicious in August and LE did nothing about it because of the water.  Without him trying again, and doing his own investigation, Caylee might never have been found, or it might have been found by the Anthonys and removed.

I am more angry that LE did not investigate his find in August.  HAd they investigated that find, we might have a different case on our hands as the manner of death may have been determined.

FINALLY Things are Right in Ms. Boo's Career and she is Getting Better - I have been " worried" about your Cold for too long ... I am happy to Hear all is Groovin with Ms Boo and I am jealous of your doggy ... I wanna go swimming .. but I am sorry to say my Banana suit would scare the Puppies ........ out of the water ...  :smt018

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face :) <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

They are making a heart with those symbols.  Look at it again.  You will see it.

OK, I found it: the myspace page for the casey lookalike. I know next to nothing about myspace lingo, so "<3" might be a common abbreviation for something.

http://www.myspace.com/387085778

By the way, it says nothing about Caylee Marie -- I was wrong about that. But it does give a date of 6/17/08, and it says "<3 him."

WONDERFUL, remarkable day!! I'm walking on Sunshine, OHHHHHH OOOHHHHH!!  ::cartwheel::

Day one of my dream job!! My dog went swimming in the warm water therapy pool! I'm not coughing as much, I found a tin of Vicks in my medicine cabinet last night so I slept well! All is good in the world, the birds are chirping, the dogs are wet (baths), the fireplace is roaring and I am one very happy puppy!!!  :smt060

There is no way I'm reading the past 30 pages from this morning. So I hope to catch on reading through these pages!

I love my monkey friends!!! HUGS TO ALL!!! TEA FOR EVERYONE!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

OHHHHHHH. Sorry. I don't know anything about the lingo used on myspace. I refuse to create a myspace or facebook account. Life is complicated enough.

I'm glad it went well today and you are feeling better Boo. Can I have pizza tonight

Um...   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I think also that we should remember that Kronk is involved with the Robinson's church and that Robinson was his super.  They were the ones that Cindy mentioned to Casey as being supportive.  I have no doubt that somewhere along the way he may not have gotten a "tip", but that it would have been very easy to plant a seed in his mind about looking in the area

akmom..... I did not know that Kronk went to Fred Robinson's church. ::MonkeyEek::

Could very well be, I do hope we find out everything.

Again, I am behind.  Too much to catch up on so I ask the question...

HUH?

I have been in and out and not reading all the back this time, but are you saying that possibly Casey knew this meter reader and had him go find the body????  How does that work???  And to who's advantage???? 

Its the plight of living in Michigan - NO Sun .. and then being over 40 .. and then adding a bit of gravity ... makes Banana suits cry .. they no likey me either
Gawd AnotherMonkey U slay me .. ::MonkeyDance::

http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said Wednesday that the department’s Internal Affairs division will interview by Thursday the deputy who might have missed a chance to find Caylee Anthony's remains in August.

Meter reader Roy Kronk said Cane was rude and did not take seriously his tip about a suspicious bag when Kronk called authorities on Aug. 13. Cane wrote off the bag as "trash only."




Now, can anyone explain why they haven't interviewed him yet?

No, but it's possible that Casey told Baez or someone and the MR is being paid to "find" the body. 

OK, here is a list of things that has been  found to be NOT RIGHT with the Roy Kronk interview and how he came to find Caylee's body.............

   1.  Kronk  himself says that he got off from work at 2:30pm,  why wait until 9:30--10:30 to call in something that you had seen or was suspicious  about 8 hours earlier......
    2. Again the second call, after he finds out nothing was done, was at 9:30--10:30pm.......why! 
    3. The police officer that shows up finally says ( according to Karon)  I dont see anything, UHH what is he a man or a mouse...why didn't he say something like look if I can see it I know you can....insist that this guy take a closer look, or call back to LE and make a complaint right then and there.
     4. Then he wants everybody to think that a rattlesnake scared off another Officer, well now didn't he just have a very handy picture of a snake he had killed before in the back of his truck. He couldnt have been too scared of snakes and so if this officer was, then he should have again called back to LE right then and there with a complaint!
     5.In this interview he says , and I quote (I use to be a boarding officer for the Coast guard and a Bail bonds man and Bounty hunter and I knew that this would be a good place with the swamp decay smell to hide a body)   well there you go he use to be those things........so he is saying he has experience......Casey wasn't any of those things so why would he think that she would come up with that idea? 
     6.Then he says, no body tipped me off, I figured this out all by myself.....Figured what out?  If he was so sure that this babies body was in this area, why wait another 4 months before going back to look, mad about how he was treated, why go back and look at all..........had to go relieve himself....Im not buying that, why even say he was going to relieve himself....its clear he went back again to look for the body and this time he decided that unless he said something like he had already seen the skull he wasnt gonna get what he wanted and that was officers going straight to the area of the remains...
     

   This guy is cleary being told something from someone.  I still think that it is the defense that knew all alone where this baby was and this Kronk guy was being used in some way.......

OK, here is a list of things that has been  found to be NOT RIGHT with the Roy Kronk interview and how he came to find Caylee's body.............

   1.  Kronk  himself says that he got off from work at 2:30pm,  why wait until 9:30--10:30 to call in something that you had seen or was suspicious  about 8 hours earlier......
    2. Again the second call, after he finds out nothing was done, was at 9:30--10:30pm.......why! 
    3. The police officer that shows up finally says ( according to Karon)  I dont see anything, UHH what is he a man or a mouse...why didn't he say something like look if I can see it I know you can....insist that this guy take a closer look, or call back to LE and make a complaint right then and there.
     4. Then he wants everybody to think that a rattlesnake scared off another Officer, well now didn't he just have a very handy picture of a snake he had killed before in the back of his truck. He couldnt have been too scared of snakes and so if this officer was, then he should have again called back to LE right then and there with a complaint!
     5.In this interview he says , and I quote (I use to be a boarding officer for the Coast guard and a Bail bonds man and Bounty hunter and I knew that this would be a good place with the swamp decay smell to hide a body)   well there you go he use to be those things........so he is saying he has experience......Casey wasn't any of those things so why would he think that she would come up with that idea? 
     6.Then he says, no body tipped me off, I figured this out all by myself.....Figured what out?  If he was so sure that this babies body was in this area, why wait another 4 months before going back to look, mad about how he was treated, why go back and look at all..........had to go relieve himself....Im not buying that, why even say he was going to relieve himself....its clear he went back again to look for the body and this time he decided that unless he said something like he had already seen the skull he wasnt gonna get what he wanted and that was officers going straight to the area of the remains...
     

   This guy is cleary being told something from someone.  I still think that it is the defense that knew all alone where this baby was and this Kronk guy was being used in some way.......

I don't know if Kronk is involved or not, there are certainly plenty of inconsistencies in his story.
And i still think the psychic is a bunch of crap!! Has she or DC come up with their cell records yet!!??

I think also that we should remember that Kronk is involved with the Robinson's church and that Robinson was his super.  They were the ones that Cindy mentioned to Casey as being supportive.  I have no doubt that somewhere along the way he may not have gotten a "tip", but that it would have been very easy to plant a seed in his mind about looking in the area

NG WANNABE just said "you CANT make this stuff UP"



shes wrong..

http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said Wednesday that the department’s Internal Affairs division will interview by Thursday the deputy who might have missed a chance to find Caylee Anthony's remains in August.

Meter reader Roy Kronk said Cane was rude and did not take seriously his tip about a suspicious bag when Kronk called authorities on Aug. 13. Cane wrote off the bag as "trash only."




Now, can anyone explain why they haven't interviewed him yet?

What a creep.   

Lucky~ this is Fred's Ministry site and he Mentions " Hopespring House" with his Wife Barbara ...and yet no physical address at all on his website as he says he is an Apostle.

Me no get it either

http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

He does live and own the house 4906 Hopespring

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the responding officer for GA June 24th, stolen gas can incident was none other than Cain!

To me honest, reliable men pay child support ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

akmom..... I did not know that Kronk went to Fred Robinson's church. ::MonkeyEek::

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Dang I didn't know K was involved with the Robinson's church or that he was his supervisor ::MonkeyConfused::

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HMMMMM... ::MonkeyTongue::

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and doesnt it say UNKNOWN GREY BAG IN SWAMP?

 ::MonkeyDance::

I took it that she is happy she is dead.

 :smt102

To me honest, reliable men pay child support ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Nooooo, is anyone familiar with a myspace page???? 

Annie's page says:  a.n.n.i.e. has a reason for the smile on her face :) <3333333 RIP CAYLE MARIE [ballin']
-to me, that part means, she's happy about something....perhaps she knows something about the case that we dont regarding LE or maybe she has a boyfriend now or a new boyfriend....Something to that affect.  That has nothing to do with the RIP Caylee part.  Two different sentences and two WHOLEEEE big different meanings.

-the <3333333's mean love.  Then RIP Cayle Marie and ballin....meaning BAWLING (cryin, tears)

Two different meanings there. 

Hope I didnt confuse anyone more than they already are.  ::MonkeyConfused::

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OK, I found it: the myspace page for the casey lookalike. I know next to nothing about myspace lingo, so "<3" might be a common abbreviation for something.

http://www.myspace.com/387085778

By the way, it says nothing about Caylee Marie -- I was wrong about that. But it does give a date of 6/17/08, and it says "<3 him."

Oh Thank Goodness you're all still here!  My modem went to modem heaven! I've missed you all!

Is anyone else dealing with HORRIBLY SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW POP UPS TODAY?  I usually have the pop ups but, they always clear off so fast...not today....two pages are posted before they load and I can clear em.  Very frustrating, grrrrrrr   ::MonkeyWaa::

and doesnt it say UNKNOWN GREY BAG IN SWAMP?

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Even after listening to Mr. Kronk, I am not sure if he was certain there was a body there or if he suspected there was a body there or if the kinda thought a body might be there during those first calls.  Obviously on the last call, he said he saw a human skull.  But on the first ones, he is not too committed to a body being there.  It is just a possibility.

I get irritated when Nancy Grace, for two nights running, says that Dominick Casey is just feet from where Caylee was found when he is poking around the abandoned house.  The house is clearly farther away from the place the body was found than a few feet.  She gets all mixed up and nobody corrects her.

The area was very, very dense in the video taken fo Dominick Casey looking for the body.  But this psychic must be pretty good if she got him that close.  I am sure her stock will rise if it turns out she really did tell him where to look and that Caylee was definitely dead and put there.

Oh Thank Goodness you're all still here!  My modem went to modem heaven! I've missed you all!

Is anyone else dealing with HORRIBLY SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW POP UPS TODAY?  I usually have the pop ups but, they always clear off so fast...not today....two pages are posted before they load and I can clear em.  Very frustrating, grrrrrrr   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

It does and IIFC that is what first came out...perhaps because it was so dirty it looked grey, but was actually white...what we do know it it was NOT the BLACK trash bag that Caylee's remains were found in.

Yes!  that on top of my mouse having a low battery I am ready to start spitting and cussin!!

Maybe they went to school together at the University of Full of Shit!!

Dang I didn't know K was involved with the Robinson's church or that he was his supervisor ::MonkeyConfused::

BabyBear, I agree with you! It is my opinion you can make T in T-56 stand for anything you want that begins with a T. Same for numeral games. You can always make a number "significant" playing around with it.

I don't think Casey was as smart as we all are giving her credit for.

JMO. And I know, not a popular one, but I am used to it.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Lucky~ this is Fred's Ministry site and he Mentions " Hopespring House" with his Wife Barbara ...and yet no physical address at all on his website as he says he is an Apostle.

Me no get it either

http://messiahorlando.net/about.html

He does live and own the house 4906 Hopespring

Remember, Monken.. daddy has her phone records, and he claims no such calls are on them.  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  (I think you're onto something there, Flossy!)

Maybe they went to school together at the University of Full of Shit!!

HE DOES!!!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I didn't know that! Oh well that changes everything, she's lying!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

That always happens to me at the most inopportune times. 

It seems to be very easy to get a PI license. I have a friend in Vegas who is a mystery shopper  and she had to get a PI license to become a mystery shopper ::MonkeyHaHa::

GOOD AFTERNOON ALL!!!    KLAAS, EMAIL, WHEN YOU HAVE A MOMENT!!!!


I've been gone all day & am frantically trying to catch up!!   

HH, on #'s1 & 2 I think it's possible that Kronk waited til he got off work to call both nights. I'm not as far south as Florida, but here the shifts change some with the time for city workers.
Do you know if they work longer hours & shorter weeks in Florida in the summer? I know it doesn't get dark until after nine in the middle of summer. I guess it's possible.
4, the snake; although there is nothing my hubby hates more, he wouldn't be run off; he would just find something really long & kill it! Then continue on. Most of the men I know would do the same. I have family here that are police officers & they get called all the time in summer about a snake in someone's house or something similar, i just doubt the snake would have run the officer away.

I don't know if Kronk is involved or not, there are certainly plenty of inconsistencies in his story.
And i still think the psychic is a bunch of crap!! Has she or DC come up with their cell records yet!!??



Monken..............Kronk said in his interview himself, that he got off at 2:30pm that day!!!!!!!!!

I have to respectfully disagree with those that have suscpisions about Mr.Kronk. I think conspiracy theories have run amuk. I do believe Mr. Kronk, mainly because I could see the same type of behaviour from myself. Curious, going back more than once, etc...If someone analysis absolutely every move and every word someone says, they certainly can find fault! I think we will find at the end of the trial that Mr.Kronk's three phone calls end up being much ado about nothing. A distraction and that's about it. He felt blown off by LE and gave it up for awhile. Reassigned to the area, he decided to check again. To our relief and his great misfortune, he found little Caylee's body! There is no gain to the defense to have found the body. What they are doing now is spinning the discovery the best they can, but I do not believe it was part of a strategy...I think we should cut the meter man a break unless we have something concrete to pin on him. Other than that, he is just another victim getting thrown under the bus. JMHO

LMAO are you kidding me??  ::MonkeyLaugh:: That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't think that has anything to do with him being an honest person or anyone else.  
I think Kronk from the beginning has ruined his own credability because whether he was in the area working or not if he was really thinking it was Caylee or something of interest he would not have stopped for months before making that final call.

If you weren't getting anywhere with LE...call a reporter to go with you and get it done. I just think he possibly overheard something that lead him there in Aug.
Maybe the A's were in their backyard area when their meter was read and something was heard.  He backed off because he owed the child support and just was torn between being the one who found her. Let's see...maybe a reward and interviews to help payoff back child support if you go forward. Heaven forbid if anyone would think of CAYLEE before themselves or $$$.

i was a secret shopper here in the idaho panhandle (and washington) ... and i didnt have to get a PI license to be one.(thank god)

also... i took grandson with... and was told it was good, because it made you blend in well with shoppers..

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

LMAO are you kidding me??  ::MonkeyLaugh:: That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I am so sorry for the misinformation, I had it mixed up, here is the link
need the monkeys opinion. tia. hope i get this all correct, it's confusing. (just like the rest of the A's)

LA & KC's jail visit july 28th

LA: i can tell you specifically, umm, Fred Robinson, has been an amazing support for our family.
KC: yeah
LA:his wife, Holly, has been a tremendous support for us, she, all of them just reference the lord alot & they want you to know that they are behind you. they refernce the lord alot and you need to utilize that as your crutch.
KC: i have been.
LA:those two in particular have used that as a platform, not only publicly (sp), but personally to voice their support, to reach out to give you strength.

(this is coming from my note, i posted it last nite a little better)

Fred Robinson address
4906 Hopespring dr

i googled Fred Robinson, i am trying to figure out how to say this 'cause i don't want to give out incorrect info, but it's soooo confusing.

Fred Robinson is owner?/president of Messiah Christian Center
PO Box 721481
Orlando, Fl 32872-1481
501(c)(3)- A religious, educational, charitable, scientific or literary organization.
organization which receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public.
Housing Rehabilitaion

TRANSITIONAL HOUSING

HOPESPRING HOUSE-provides participants (ages (18-23) the love, support, and guidance needed to successfully transition out of the foster care system into productive independent living. education and a safe affordable living enviroment are two of the most important needs expressed by this delicate group of young adults. With this in mind, our objective is to provide physical, emotional, financial and academic support to former foster care participants resulting in 100% of those completing the two year program making significant progress towards earning an associates degree or post-secondary education certificate.

Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 hopespring Dr.
listed as SECRETARY 1

Fred Robinson also has a business called Franklincomputer Consulting
titile-pres
address-4106 Eagle Feather

Lee Anthony's previous address
4148 Eagle Feather

just thought this was interesting. any monkey opinions?
hope i have this all straight 'cause i had to print everything out since i don't know how to cut 7 paste. tia.

wendi

I think that is what she is "banking" on. JMO.

Who here would ever let Annie babysit your child? Not me!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Maybe they went to school together at the University of Full of Shit!!

i was a secret shopper here in the idaho panhandle (and washington) ... and i didnt have to get a PI license to be one.(thank god)

also... i took grandson with... and was told it was good, because it made you blend in well with shoppers..

A less than and a three sign together is supposed to be a heart.  Meaning LOVE  <3  You guys are funny!!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hello, monkeys! I have lurked here for several weeks, but now I have been "accepted" as part of the group. I just want to say that I have really enjoyed the discussions and insight of the group. I look forward everyday to reading the "latest and greatest." Thanks!

What is a secret shopper?  someone who watches for shoplifters?

ITA on the above post.
The defense want us to mentally try Kronk in the public for his actions. They will use him to no end to throw a wrench into KCs trial. They want us to doubt his actions to help get Kc off.

I feel bad for him, he has nothing to gain from reporting what he suspected.

oh yeah yeah yeah...its ALLLLLLLLLLLL coming back to me now... i got a text from one of my granddaughters once... and couldnt figure it out when SHE wrote that heart thingy ....

of course, i am the SAME person who got all FREAKED out when my new employer (years and years ago) who told me.. "REST UP! we have LOTS to do tomorrow.."

LOTS?  i asked... LOTS?? what the HECK are LOTS..

uh.. we have ALOT to do tomorrow kimberly...ya dork..


heh..

never said i was the sharpest knife in the drawer...

What is a secret shopper?  someone who watches for shoplifters?

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  (Not laughing AT you. Laughing WITH you!)  ::MonkeyWink::

Does anyone know if this is the pastor that visited Casey in jail?

ITA on the above post.
The defense want us to mentally try Kronk in the public for his actions. They will use him to no end to throw a wrench into KCs trial. They want us to doubt his actions to help get Kc off.

I feel bad for him, he has nothing to gain from reporting what he suspected.

Even after listening to Mr. Kronk, I am not sure if he was certain there was a body there or if he suspected there was a body there or if the kinda thought a body might be there during those first calls.  Obviously on the last call, he said he saw a human skull.  But on the first ones, he is not too committed to a body being there.  It is just a possibility.

I get irritated when Nancy Grace, for two nights running, says that Dominick Casey is just feet from where Caylee was found when he is poking around the abandoned house.  The house is clearly farther away from the place the body was found than a few feet.  She gets all mixed up and nobody corrects her.

The area was very, very dense in the video taken fo Dominick Casey looking for the body.  But this psychic must be pretty good if she got him that close.  I am sure her stock will rise if it turns out she really did tell him where to look and that Caylee was definitely dead and put there.

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

no they go in and critique establishments on the sly based on what the company's want

The defense will try to discredit Kronk and everyone else who testifies about something that may damage Casey.  All of the prosecution witnesses will be raked over the coals.  I hope I never have to testify at a trial because the opposing lawyers will try to make me seem crazy, drunk, weird, forgetful, nearly blind, dumb, immoral or all of the above.

Who here would ever let Annie babysit your child? Not me!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

And as far as the daisy chain, they say its only 6 or 7 degrees (people) and you can connect up to just about anyone.

NEVER!!!!

Hi , does anybody else remember Cindy saying that KC bought a inflatable bed for Caylee.  If she did where was she using it at.  I also remember statements by some of her friends, that for a few days KC seemed to drop off the planet or something to that effect.  Where would she be at that she needed a inflatable bed? Could she have been in the abandoned house?

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. yes but if they sent Kronk to look in the wrong area the first few times and he didnt find anything and unforseeable to them the cop didnt do anything, this does help the defense.
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.  but she was likely to be found Guilty just from the forensic evidense that was already had, the only way to help her was to make it look like someone disposed of the body AFTER  Casey was in jail.(kidnapper)
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.Not if the body was gonna be made to look like the kidnappers had it and dispossed of it.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.     It is possible that kronk played a role in this without knowing the Anthony's, but knowing someone else that knew them...

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do. Yes thats true but with all of Orlando to search and all the swamps around , why focus on this area so much,  
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.  Then why give up so easily, why not go back and search everyday until you find something.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.Yes , he had a hunch and could it have come from someone that wanted the body found but couldnt find it themselves because of their involvment in the case and thought since Kronk worked in the neighborhood it would be better if he found it?
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

Hi , does anybody else remember Cindy saying that KC bought a inflatable bed for Caylee.  If she did where was she using it at.  I also remember statements by some of her friends, that for a few days KC seemed to drop off the planet or something to that effect.  Where would she be at that she needed a inflatable bed? Could she have been in the abandoned house?

Hi , does anybody else remember Cindy saying that KC bought a inflatable bed for Caylee.  If she did where was she using it at.  I also remember statements by some of her friends, that for a few days KC seemed to drop off the planet or something to that effect.  Where would she be at that she needed a inflatable bed? Could she have been in the abandoned house?

Is that not the Question of this entire baffle - CINDY of all People - Mother of the Year - Grandmother that can't even tell the difference between Rotten Pizza and an Empty Box ... NEVER EVER EVER QUESTIONED who WHO the Nanny WAS when Caylee was out of her WATCH ........... never had her phone number, address, and Never figured out her Daughter was Never Employed at the same Time ... All the Demise living under the Ant Roof ..
 :smt078
sorry I am Mamma - My Rant

Is that not the Question of this entire baffle - CINDY of all People - Mother of the Year - Grandmother that can't even tell the difference between Rotten Pizza and an Empty Box ... NEVER EVER EVER QUESTIONED who WHO the Nanny WAS when Caylee was out of her WATCH ........... never had her phone number, address, and Never figured out her Daughter was Never Employed at the same Time ... All the Demise living under the Ant Roof ..
 :smt078
sorry I am Mamma - My Rant

The only mention I remember about the inflatable bed was when Cindy was telling a news reporter that Casey slept on it in George's and Cindy's bedroom when she was out on bond, sporting her fancy ankle bracelet.

It is also my understanding that Caylee slept in Casey's bedroom at night. All the time. So maybe she slept on it on the floor?

OMG you guys are funny ::MonkeyHaHa::   <3 is a heart!!  (I've been using that since I started going online, 10+ yrs ago)

ok all, no Wyks here yesterday and so far today....... ::MonkeyNoNo::

HELP If theres a mod around , i think my settings are messed up. I get error messages if I try to post in a quote.

TIA

I thought it was perky boobs in a halter top  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't remember anything about Cindy saying Casey bought an inflatable bed, but didn't she say that Casey was so upset when she got out of jail the first time, she couldn't sleep in her bed and slept on an inflatable bed in Cindy's bedroom?

I don't think that has anything to do with him being an honest person or anyone else.

I think Kronk from the beginning has ruined his own credability because whether he was in the area working or not if he was really thinking it was Caylee or something of interest he would not have stopped for months before making that final call.

If you weren't getting anywhere with LE...call a reporter to go with you and get it done. I just think he possibly overheard something that lead him there in Aug.
Maybe the A's were in their backyard area when their meter was read and something was heard.  He backed off because he owed the child support and just was torn between being the one who found her. Let's see...maybe a reward and interviews to help payoff back child support if you go forward. Heaven forbid if anyone would think of CAYLEE before themselves or $$$.

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

I don't remember anything about Cindy saying Casey bought an inflatable bed, but didn't she say that Casey was so upset when she got out of jail the first time, she couldn't sleep in her bed and slept on an inflatable bed in Cindy's bedroom?

I was hoping for pizza tonight also. ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks for the Welcome Back Sassy & Trimm ....  ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Did I miss any Boo's Clues the past two days?

I do?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

So... I'm just south of the border (well, a few hours south).  I'm not quite 40, and well.. I don't wear banana suits.  That I know of.  ::MonkeyEek::  But that said, I'd still scare some puppies out of the water.  ::MonkeyTongue::

oh yeah yeah yeah...its ALLLLLLLLLLLL coming back to me now... i got a text from one of my granddaughters once... and couldnt figure it out when SHE wrote that heart thingy ....

of course, i am the SAME person who got all FREAKED out when my new employer (years and years ago) who told me.. "REST UP! we have LOTS to do tomorrow.."

LOTS?  i asked... LOTS?? what the HECK are LOTS..

uh.. we have ALOT to do tomorrow kimberly...ya dork..


heh..

never said i was the sharpest knife in the drawer...

Hello, monkeys! I have lurked here for several weeks, but now I have been "accepted" as part of the group. I just want to say that I have really enjoyed the discussions and insight of the group. I look forward everyday to reading the "latest and greatest." Thanks!

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

OH HUDSUNN! I've gotta run but you can bet I'm bookmarking your post!

If anyone sees Islandmonkey, can you tell her I left a note in Musings?  I'm afraid I might have ticked her off :smt022 .  TIA,

 :smt039 monkeys!
Lovin

I do not recall an inflatable bed but what I do recall is that Caylee slept with Casey - because she hated to sleep alone in her crib ..yet memory calls and I am sure that Monkeys will tell me ...that when Casey was out Caylee was put somewhere else .. at night .. is that the Inflatable bed?  I never recall Cindy saying that Caylee slept with her and George's in their bed... which I am sure Georgie and Cin have had separate beds for some time ...its just none of our Monkey business ....

You're still funny as hell !!!!!!     ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

What's a banana suit? TIA JSM

What's a banana suit? TIA JSM

Thanks.  I needed you to say that cuz you both said it better than I could! 

You're still funny as hell !!!!!!     ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Did anyone give a shout-out to Wyks... ::MonkeyTongue::

I agree. My goodness, with some of the skeletons in my closet, I would have to think twice on calling a crimeline if this is what happens!!

You're still funny as hell !!!!!!     ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Kronk-I drove over there. I called. The officer showed up. I showed him a picture of a snake that we had found on Monday. He looked kinda shaken up. It was a six-and-a-half-foot diamondback rattlesnake. He pulled his baton out and went down to the water's edge. He just swept his head back and forth. [He said,] 'I don't see anything' and pretty much that was it. He told me I was wasting the county's time and that they had all these other tips and that was it," Kronk explained.

I wonder if Kronk has any other pictures taken that day besides the snake.... ::MonkeyTongue::

       Just wanted to throw this in also, my friend that was here earlier today said that the defense is probably behind most everything that has gone on in this case, they want all this publicity to continue, they want all these new hints and clues to come out, they want anything they can get to show any trace of doubt.....any kind of confusion,  they are doing everything in there power to make this case as high profile as possible so that there will be so many people involved and so many questions to answer and leads to follow that it will confuse the Jury and help them to show that there is other people of interest besides Casey........They are trying to keep her from being found guilty,  and someone in the end will get very rich off from this entire thing,  the same someone that is lending the defense a hand right now for all these exsperts and whatever else they need!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the Welcome Back Sassy & Trimm ....  ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Did I miss any Boo's Clues the past two days?

Exactly!  From what I have read about Cindy, I have noticed two conflicting points of view.  The first is that Cindy is purported to be a control freak.  She was the head of the family, and everyone seemed to do whatever they needed to do to stay on her good side.  The thing that I don't get is that if Cindy was such a control freak, why would she be so willfully blind to all of Casey's lies.  A control freak (IMO) would not accept lies, and would push for the truth.  After all, you can't control someone who is lying to you.  These two characteristics seemed to be at play in Cindy's personality.  It doesn't make sense to me. 

Good points Hudsunn~I was told by a detective in TN that after a crime is committed the perp usually takes right hand turns ::MonkeyConfused:: IIRC, he was telling me it was more natural and instinctual??? Any input from other monkeys-did anyone map the route she most likely took and were they right hand turns or were they a mixed bunch of turns. ::MonkeyTongue::

NEVER!!!!

Newfie, sorry I was on the phone while I was skimmin pages. I was gonna say it, but was too late but here goes WELCOME BACK!

I don't remember anything about Cindy saying Casey bought an inflatable bed, but didn't she say that Casey was so upset when she got out of jail the first time, she couldn't sleep in her bed and slept on an inflatable bed in Cindy's bedroom?

       Just wanted to throw this in also, my friend that was here earlier today said that the defense is probably behind most everything that has gone on in this case, they want all this publicity to continue, they want all these new hints and clues to come out, they want anything they can get to show any trace of doubt.....any kind of confusion,  they are doing everything in there power to make this case as high profile as possible so that there will be so many people involved and so many questions to answer and leads to follow that it will confuse the Jury and help them to show that there is other people of interest besides Casey........They are trying to keep her from being found guilty,  and someone in the end will get very rich off from this entire thing,  the same someone that is lending the defense a hand right now for all these exsperts and whatever else they need!!!!!!!!!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: That is so funny - when we got the new house we got a pool. My now 16 yo is VERY offended that I wear a bikini - I am over 40 and four kids in Michigan!  I still wear it on the one nice day we get!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

good quetion... anyone got a clue?

       Just wanted to throw this in also, my friend that was here earlier today said that the defense is probably behind most everything that has gone on in this case, they want all this publicity to continue, they want all these new hints and clues to come out, they want anything they can get to show any trace of doubt.....any kind of confusion,  they are doing everything in there power to make this case as high profile as possible so that there will be so many people involved and so many questions to answer and leads to follow that it will confuse the Jury and help them to show that there is other people of interest besides Casey........They are trying to keep her from being found guilty,  and someone in the end will get very rich off from this entire thing,  the same someone that is lending the defense a hand right now for all these exsperts and whatever else they need!!!!!!!!!!

Kronk-I drove over there. I called. The officer showed up. I showed him a picture of a snake that we had found on Monday. He looked kinda shaken up. It was a six-and-a-half-foot diamondback rattlesnake. He pulled his baton out and went down to the water's edge. He just swept his head back and forth. [He said,] 'I don't see anything' and pretty much that was it. He told me I was wasting the county's time and that they had all these other tips and that was it," Kronk explained.

I wonder if Kronk has any other pictures taken that day besides the snake.... ::MonkeyTongue::

WFTV finds dirt on psychic and further erodes her story.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18482075/detail.html#-



Psychic's Credibility Questioned Amid Claims She Talked With P.I.

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 – updated: 6:02 pm EST January 14, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information Wednesday that raises questions about the credibility of the Virginia psychic who claims she was the one on the phone with the Anthonys' private investigator, directing him around the scene, a month before Caylee Anthony's remains were found there.

WFTV reporter Kathi Belich talked to a family member from another murder mystery 20 years ago who said psychic Ginette Lucas took her money and gave her useless information in return.

PSYCHIC TALKS: Claims She Was One On Phone

Lucas said she was the one directing the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, on the phone in November, but the man who shot the video said Mr. Casey never mentioned a psychic and was secretive about his numerous phone calls.

"She makes you feel like you're her best friend until the money runs out," Mary Thweatt told Eyewitness News.

Thweatt, of Virginia, said a month after her niece was raped and murdered her family desperately turned to Lucas to find the killer. She said they paid Lucas about $5,000 for useless information.

"That it was probably a soldier and he had something red on his sleeve and being that we have four or five different military bases within 75 miles around us," Thweatt said.

Now, Lucas and Dominic Casey claim she was on the cell phone with him on November 15 in the videotape at the scene where Caylee Anthony's remains were found weeks later. Mr. Casey said it was 9:15am and had initially said he was talking to his ill daughter. The psychic says she called him several times, but can't find her phone records.

"At 6:00am, I tried his cell phone," Lucas told Eyewitness News on Tuesday.

The man who shot the video, private eye Jim Hoover, said Mr. Casey has more than one cell phone, which raises questions.

"Who are you on the cell phone with and what cell phone are you using?" questioned WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer.

Thweatt does not believe the psychic's claim that she was on the phone with Dominic Casey in the video.

"To this day, has the murder of your niece been solved?" Belich asked her.

"No," she said.

That's hilarious!  (and a good guess!)  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Joe is looking Fabulous BTW!

I bet he did take other pictures, what is the point of showing the officer a picture of a snake that you took a day or two previous? Like the officer could not figure out there are snakes in a wooded, swampy area. ::MonkeyRoll::

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

Is that not the Question of this entire baffle - CINDY of all People - Mother of the Year - Grandmother that can't even tell the difference between Rotten Pizza and an Empty Box ... NEVER EVER EVER QUESTIONED who WHO the Nanny WAS when Caylee was out of her WATCH ........... never had her phone number, address, and Never figured out her Daughter was Never Employed at the same Time ... All the Demise living under the Ant Roof ..
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Geesh imagine Kc getting off on this one. The lawsuits will be huge against LE and imagine the money she would make on a book. Yikes.

what the Defense and the As , including the PIs and people they are hiring are doing a darn good job, cause they are leading us on a lot of wild goose chases. They want us to believe that this case is more than Kc had a fit of rage,killed Caylee, dumped her body and then proceeded to go party. So they are throwing us alot to conspire about.

Is that not the Question of this entire baffle - CINDY of all People - Mother of the Year - Grandmother that can't even tell the difference between Rotten Pizza and an Empty Box ... NEVER EVER EVER QUESTIONED who WHO the Nanny WAS when Caylee was out of her WATCH ........... never had her phone number, address, and Never figured out her Daughter was Never Employed at the same Time ... All the Demise living under the Ant Roof ..
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Good evening monkeys and welcome new monkeys

I've been thinking this case is just too weird and getting more bizarre every day
could it be that Casey killed Caylee and dumped her poor little body plan and simple.
Then everyone else came into this case for themselves and Casey
The only person I see that has come into this case for Caylee is TES and Tim.
He wanted her found so she didn't have to be out there alone.

I'm I just being simple minded or does things like what is happening in this case really go on in other cases

Monkey hugs

A babensu well that's what my god son when he was 3 yrs old called a bathing suit - I deem it here a Banana~suit ...it is like a Peel on a Nanna upon one's Body .. hee hee  - skin ... peel...nanner ...I rather just wear my tanks and camo shorts that are knee bound ..lol in the summer time  ::MonkeyDance::

       Just wanted to throw this in also, my friend that was here earlier today said that the defense is probably behind most everything that has gone on in this case, they want all this publicity to continue, they want all these new hints and clues to come out, they want anything they can get to show any trace of doubt.....any kind of confusion,  they are doing everything in there power to make this case as high profile as possible so that there will be so many people involved and so many questions to answer and leads to follow that it will confuse the Jury and help them to show that there is other people of interest besides Casey........They are trying to keep her from being found guilty,  and someone in the end will get very rich off from this entire thing,  the same someone that is lending the defense a hand right now for all these exsperts and whatever else they need!!!!!!!!!!

I bet the psychic is the "mall sighting" girl's mother.

What is a secret shopper?  someone who watches for shoplifters?

AND Joy Wray's sister and Wanda Wery's cousin.

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Good evening monkeys and welcome new monkeys

I've been thinking this case is just too weird and getting more bizarre every day
could it be that Casey killed Caylee and dumped her poor little body plan and simple.
Then everyone else came into this case for themselves and Casey
The only person I see that has come into this case for Caylee is TES and Tim.
He wanted her found so she didn't have to be out there alone.

I'm I just being simple minded or does things like what is happening in this case really go on in other cases

Monkey hugs

Maybe Lee is into DC comics. Holly Robinson is Catwoman's friend. Holly Robinson was also the actress on 21 Jump Street who later became Holly Robinson Peete. So maybe he misspoke. OR, he may have been thinking of Holly the reporter from a tv channel that covers the case often in front of the A's house.

If I recall correctly, Cindy stated that the inflatable bed for for Casey to use when she and/or Caylee spent the night at Zenaida's house.  I also recall Cindy stating that Zenaida had a lot of money (if I had a lot of money, I would certainly not be working as a nanny).  This is also strange, because those of us with common sense would assume that since Zenaida had a lot of money, she would either have a guest room, or would purchase an inflatable bed herself.  This just goes to show you how completely blind Cindy was to Casey's crap.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: Bump~I must have invisible monkey syndrome lately  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: 

Just want to know is anyone plotted her turns and was my TN detective correct about that.

Lovin~I replied back you silly monkey, and NO I was NOT ticked, it's next to impossible to tick me off, well.............unless you trash Tim Miller-that might do it ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh I'm sure there will be quite a bit of money made from this case, hope it comes out soon who this certain someone is with the deep pockets, I have a hunch who it is.

Someone who shops to grade the quality of service provided to the customer by the salesperson.  High end retailers care about maintaining their reputation for excellent service.  Also, the Better Business Bureau in some areas do a random shopping for grading purposes on whether or not the retailer is selling what happens to be advertised on any given day. 

I bet the psychic is the "mall sighting" girl's mother.

       Just wanted to throw this in also, my friend that was here earlier today said that the defense is probably behind most everything that has gone on in this case, they want all this publicity to continue, they want all these new hints and clues to come out, they want anything they can get to show any trace of doubt.....any kind of confusion,  they are doing everything in there power to make this case as high profile as possible so that there will be so many people involved and so many questions to answer and leads to follow that it will confuse the Jury and help them to show that there is other people of interest besides Casey........They are trying to keep her from being found guilty,  and someone in the end will get very rich off from this entire thing,  the same someone that is lending the defense a hand right now for all these exsperts and whatever else they need!!!!!!!!!!

It goes on in every high profile case. It's heartbreaking. Fortunately, in this one, law enforcement is doing an excellent job protecting their case.

OriginalKat, I have no idea if the phone calls are verified.  It seems even if her records are not available, his would be.  I would be very interested in knowing if they knew each other before the phone calls.  Not many hardboiled detectives will go tromping around in the woods or to vacant houses just because of a phone call from someone they don't even know, especially a psychic. 

Wow. I hadn't heard this about the inflatable bed for use at "Zanny's" house. It really makes you wonder where this baby may have been spending some of her nights. I hate to think about that little darling somewhere alone.

I thought it was perky boobs in a halter top  ::MonkeyConfused::

JVM on now-she says that there is new stunnung information on the relationship between Cindy and Casey.

INTERESTING... the dude on HLN just said... caseys the one who had the body in the trunk ..... and didnt say anything for 31 days... and she STILL hasnt..


i hadnt thought of it like that...SHE still hasnt....

Well, I'm all ears, thanks. ::MonkeyEek::

Well, I'm all ears, thanks. ::MonkeyEek::

WELL  dont just leave me looking like ::MonkeyEek::  tell me already ::MonkeyHaHa::

Well, I'm all ears, thanks. ::MonkeyEek::

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I believe it is Geraldo, he has a lot of connections that he has made through the many years of being a lawyer, and being on tv.

Geesh imagine Kc getting off on this one. The lawsuits will be huge against LE and imagine the money she would make on a book. Yikes.

what the Defense and the As , including the PIs and people they are hiring are doing a darn good job, cause they are leading us on a lot of wild goose chases. They want us to believe that this case is more than Kc had a fit of rage,killed Caylee, dumped her body and then proceeded to go party. So they are throwing us alot to conspire about.

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Sorry Newfie.I just got back to my laptop. I don't think there is any new clues.But Boo sure is in a good mood today...so who knows.I'll be waiting right along with you to see what happens.  ::MonkeyCool::

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You are behind!  Speed read ahead and you will see where I noted Joe looks fabulous in his Valentine pic!  ::MonkeyDance::

JVM panelists are discussing the amount of times Casey used Lee's name when discussing things with her parents at the jailhouse. 

Per Weintraub, a former def atty, obstruction of justice charges for the Ants will be very hard to prove.

I bet the psychic is the "mall sighting" girl's mother.

okay... so kronk sees something  white..... "im not saying its caylee".. 

so IF he saw a white bag... or whatever it WAS that he saw... are you telling me that you would not SHOW the officer what it is? NO! NO ITS RIGHT THERE! RIGGGGGGGGGGHT THEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..

OR .. do you just hear the officer say.. i dont see anything...
and go.. okay.. im outta here...

I have heard of you via Boo -  ::MonkeyWink::  :smt054