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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #92 1/15/09 - 1/17/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 14, 2009, 05:50:46 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 07:43:40 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
Dangit sassy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 07:44:11 PM
NUT - what photo?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 07:44:13 PM
Dangit sassy
You too Trimm! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 15, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Making my grand entrance!  Fashionably late ... as usual!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 15, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: WOOOHOOO!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Right behind ya Newfie! Maybe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Dangit sassy
You too Trimm! ::MonkeyTongue::

JSM - alcohol consumption slows down your posting abilities I think.  Or at least for me!   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 07:47:18 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 15, 2009, 07:48:04 PM
Just watching the video.  Casey complains that she has seen some responses to articles online, and they bother her.  Boo friggin hoo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 07:48:20 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: WOOOHOOO!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Right behind ya Newfie! Maybe?

Lovin, I also wanted to mention that there is a Lake County in FL also. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 07:48:23 PM
I wanted to bring this over here from Guideposts:

Quote
Yes, it was.  Just a short timeline of what was happening during this video timeframe...
8/8/08 – Casey refuses to see her brother when he arrives for a previously scheduled jail visit
8/8/08 Baez also launched a new appeal to spring Casey Anthony out of jail.
8/8/08 Divers Search Ponds Near Home of Missing
8/8/08 George Anthony Lashes Out At Media later apologizes
8/8/08 Private Investigator Dominic Casey visits Casey Anthony in jail.

8/9/08  – Caylee Anthony's third birthday

8/10/08 – Casey declines a scheduled visitation with her parents
8/10/08 “she will get the mother of the year award for what she’s done for Caylee” in Greta interview.

8/11/08 - Casey denies visit with parents
8/11/08  Gail St. John, psychic, was shooting her "blind drive"
8/11/08 Roy Krunk called LE 4:28pm saying there was a bag along side of the road.

8/12/08 - George Anthony claims he is being watched,
8/12/08 Roy Krunk called LE
8/12/08  LE held searches in woods near Anthony home Mon & Tues Aug 12, no leads found.

8/13/08 Roy Krunk called LE

8/14/08 - Investigators source says Caylee is dead
8/14/08 George Anthony lashes out on way to see Casey
8/14/08 Casey visits with parents and Cindy is seen crying after the meeting.

8/15/08- Bounty Hunter comes forward and will post bond to get Casey out of jail
8/15/08  AUG 15th-A det with orange co. sheriff's dept tells fox news that all future jail visits will be withheld "DUE TO A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE EXEMPTION"
8/15/08 Tropical Storm Faye hit Orlando on August 15, 2008

8/16/08  - Casey denies visit with brother saying it was under the advisement of her lawyers.

And add these few:

August 12 – George Anthony tells the media he is certain that Caylee was kidnapped.

August 14 – Casey accepts a visit from her parents.

August 16 – The Anthony family appoints Larry Garrison, president of production company SilverCreek Entertainment, as their official spokesperson..

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

I like being able to put things in perspective this way. Thanks, Guideposts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 15, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
Did anyone hear the guy that is on JVM he says talking about Kronk? I didn't catch all he was saying about him and what didn't make sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 07:49:06 PM
Just watching the video.  Casey complains that she has seen some responses to articles online, and they bother her.  Boo friggin hoo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wonder what she'd say if we sent the one with the mattress strapped to her a$$   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 15, 2009, 07:50:10 PM
Hey guys, don't think I've said this nearly enough! I HATE CASEY ANTHONY; I HATE CASDEY ANTHONY; I HATE CASEY ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW BAEZ, PRINT THIS OUT & TAKE IT TO CASEY WHEN YOU RENDEZVOUS TOMORROW; ALONG WITH THE LAST FEW PAGES OF THE LAST THREAD!


HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Casey said Baez brings her stuff from different places that's being said about her, you know that's got to include SCARED MONKEYS!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 07:50:13 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 07:50:32 PM
Just watching the video.  Casey complains that she has seen some responses to articles online, and they bother her.  Boo friggin hoo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wonder what she'd say if we sent the one with the mattress strapped to her a$$   ::MonkeyWink:: 

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 15, 2009, 07:51:07 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 15, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Well I finally got to watch it...Cindy was a mess.I couldn't help but to feel her desperation.Don't throw nanners at me please.George and all his analagies make me sick.He talks more nonsense then Elmer Fudd...No hard questions because they were so intimidated by her.It's been my opinion all along that they walked around on egg shells when Casey was around because they know the wrath of her anger and have probably dealt with it her whole life.The sad thing for me is imagining little Caylee with her the last moments of her life.I hope more than anything that Caylee was put to sleep and not terrorized by the person she called mom.There will be a special place for Caylee in Heaven and unless KC repents,there will be a special place in hell for her..God comforts no one that does not belong to Him so there you go.Hide your head under the covers and cry KC because no one here really cares.Finally I got mad because she called me ignorant and said I needed to get a life.I bet you she would trade hers for mine in a New York minute!! God it's all just sooooooooo sad...Rest in peace baby girl because justice is going to be served...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 15, 2009, 07:51:17 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: WOOOHOOO!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Right behind ya Newfie! Maybe?
Fashionably late makes us cool Lovin!   Being first, second, third, .... is so passe!   ::MonkeyCool::
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 15, 2009, 07:51:40 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Goodnight Dearheart!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 07:52:05 PM
Did anyone hear the guy that is on JVM he says talking about Kronk? I didn't catch all he was saying about him and what didn't make sense.

He says he doesn't believe the coincidence of going to take a tinkle in a snake infested swampy area and then looking down and finding a skull.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 15, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
NUT - what photo?

UP there, lol. My opening 1st post photo. I have/see frames (slide thingies)  in it...is it too big?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 07:53:42 PM
Did anyone hear the guy that is on JVM he says talking about Kronk? I didn't catch all he was saying about him and what didn't make sense.

He says he doesn't believe the coincidence of going to take a tinkle in a snake infested swampy area and then looking down and finding a skull.
I don't either. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
NUT - what photo?

UP there, lol. My opening 1st post photo. I have/see frames (slide thingies)  in it...is it too big?

I don't but I'll look again after dinner and during commercial breaks.  Be right back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 15, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
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There better be somethin' special in that coffee!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 07:54:09 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039
 
Bye Lovin!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 15, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
Did anyone hear the guy that is on JVM he says talking about Kronk? I didn't catch all he was saying about him and what didn't make sense.

He says he doesn't believe the coincidence of going to take a tinkle in a snake infested swampy area and then looking down and finding a skull.
I don't either. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Awwww...   I hope he wasn't in danger of getting a chomp on his winkie while taking a tinkle in the snake infested swampy area. Wouldn't want that to happen.  ::MonkeyRoll::


sorry.. this video of Casey is making me a snarky monkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 07:55:44 PM
That visit tape was not really the first time we have heard Casey erupt in "frustration" at her parents.  Remember the first phone call from jail?  She lashed out at everybody for not understanding what she was going through and for the fact that she was in jail and said the call was a total waste of her precious time. 

Things I picked up on right away from that tape were :

  1.  Cindy seemed heartbroken and as others have said, "walking on eggshells" trying to get info from Casey but clueless as to how to handle her daughter.
  2.  Casey often congratulates herself on how "calm" she is being, even after erupting in anger.  In other words, she is saying, "I could be letting everyone have it, but instead, I am keeping the lid on."  Bet her lawyer told her not to show anger if she can help it.
  3.  Casey seems to trust Baez completely.  Cindy and George have mentioned several times that maybe he is not the best attorney, but Casey seems totally committed to staying with him.  They have bonded somehow.
  4.  Casey always expresses concern for herself, even when she tries to say her main concern is Caylee.  She talks about her own issue of being in jail, being out of the loop, being miserable, etc.  It really is all about her, and of course, she is a VICTIM.  She did not hesitate to use that word.
  5.  She clearly hates the media and says she will not give them sh*t.  Boy, that should really help with her image, huh?  LOL
  6.  I think it's funny that she says people who criticize her or suspect her are "ignorant."  Well, we aren't in jail, Casey, and you are.
  7.  Also funny...there was a time, she says, when she might have been able to help find Caylee, but now that she is locked up...no chance.
  8.  Cindy said that she and George did not have the means to get Casey out of jail.  I suppose that means they did not have enough money to make bail and they did not want to put up their homes and cars, etc., to try to raise it.  I think they probably thought if she stewed in jail long enough she would talk.
  9.  I will have to give Baez credit for one thing.  He convinced Casey not to run her motor mouth.  He must have put the fear of God in her to do that, cuz she always loved to talk.  She has said nothing at all to the media, even when she was out of jail.  She has a sense of self-preservation and self-protection that has kicked into gear, and she has not said a word to the media, when many in her position do.  Lawyers always tell their clients not to say a word, but lots of them do, Scott Peterson for example.
 10.  I am convinced more than ever that any tears she sheds are for herself and her predicament, not for Caylee or her parents.


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 07:55:54 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Cyas!

You still do laundry?! I quit doing that when I joined SM!  LOL

(just kidding)
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 15, 2009, 07:55:57 PM
Wooo hooo I am like 12th in the cage!!!   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 15, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039
Sure ... follow me in and then leave me!  (sniff sniff) ... See ya Lovin!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 07:56:23 PM
Now I wonder about Cindy mentioning Lake County I thought it was in Florida, but being that it is in Ohio, and I could have sworn she said she went there. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Bye Lovin - stay warm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: marymary on January 15, 2009, 07:57:14 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Have to get this off my chest.  Just wondering if anyone else has had this thought.   Listening to the meter reader something he said caught my attention.  I can't quote verbatum but he said something about a fallen tree branch and a board across it.  Is it possible that Casey hung Caylee from that tree and than put her in the bag?  Not sure how the car trunk would fit into this but just couldn't shake the feeling. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 15, 2009, 07:57:43 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Goodnight Dearheart!!!!

Awww Tater! Noone has ever called me "Dearheart" before.  That is so sweet! :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
NUT - what photo?

UP there, lol. My opening 1st post photo. I have/see frames (slide thingies)  in it...is it too big?

I don't have scroll bars for that image, Nut. But it would depend on one's resolution. Just letting you know I don't have those "slide thingies."  LOL

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 15, 2009, 08:00:26 PM
HEY, WAIT.  I wasn't ready for a new cage.  I thought we were having so much fun in the other cage and I wasn't ready to leave.    ::MonkeyWaa::

Oh well, going to catch NG.  Think I'll take some Asprin, first.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Have to get this off my chest.  Just wondering if anyone else has had this thought.   Listening to the meter reader something he said caught my attention.  I can't quote verbatum but he said something about a fallen tree branch and a board across it.  Is it possible that Casey hung Caylee from that tree and than put her in the bag?  Not sure how the car trunk would fit into this but just couldn't shake the feeling. 
That was strange, a board across a fallen tree branch, and I wonder if deputy Cane saw this when he went out on the call?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 15, 2009, 08:00:48 PM
Did anyone hear the guy that is on JVM he says talking about Kronk? I didn't catch all he was saying about him and what didn't make sense.

He says he doesn't believe the coincidence of going to take a tinkle in a snake infested swampy area and then looking down and finding a skull.
I don't either. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Awwww...   I hope he wasn't in danger of getting a chomp on his winkie while taking a tinkle in the snake infested swampy area. Wouldn't want that to happen.  ::MonkeyRoll::


sorry.. this video of Casey is making me a snarky monkey.

Thanks. Seems like the only snake he encountered was a dead one though right? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 15, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
I'm about half-way through the video, and I am so disgusted.  This video speaks volumes.  Casey gets so angry that she looks like she wants to hit someone when her parents push her about Caylee.  All she can talk about is "me, me, me" waaaaah.  I want to jump through the screen and punch her lights out.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:01:54 PM
Where is Boo?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 15, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
BTW Golden Oldie - I did see your post in the last thread ... and it took every fiber of my being not to say something really really bad!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Okay ... letting my dog out ... then watching NG from a warm bed!  Right around 30 below in the lovely state of IN tonight!  Holy Moly!   ::MonkeyEek::

Night Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 15, 2009, 08:02:17 PM
Now I wonder about Cindy mentioning Lake County I thought it was in Florida, but being that it is in Ohio, and I could have sworn she said she went there. ::MonkeyConfused::
There is Lake county, FL also. Mt Dora I believe is in that area.
http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/ (http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mig on January 15, 2009, 08:02:45 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 08:02:55 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:03:06 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I tripped over Sassy's tail.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:03:09 PM
Dangit sassy
You too Trimm! ::MonkeyTongue::

JSM - alcohol consumption slows down your posting abilities I think.  Or at least for me!   ::MonkeyWink:: 
Yep it does for me too, but this time I have been outside with Joe.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:03:23 PM
Now I wonder about Cindy mentioning Lake County I thought it was in Florida, but being that it is in Ohio, and I could have sworn she said she went there. ::MonkeyConfused::

There IS a Lake County, Florida:

http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/visitors/about_lake_county.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 08:04:27 PM
I think there is a Lake County in Florida.

Casey can run circles around her parents, even from jail.  She interrupts them, talks over them, blames them for not listening, plays the martyr by saying she never gets to tell her side, and then they shut up and she takes over.  She completely disrespects them and then says a slight, "I'm sorry I upset you...but..." and turns it on them again.  I think she has zero love or respect for them and could care less what they are going through. 

It is interesting that she chose George over Cindy in terms of having a private meeting.  She said to him that they had been apart for months...that must be a reference to the problems they have had since he moved out and then came back.  She is clearly trying to get him in her corner and wants to avoid Cindy and Lee, whom she thinks will ask more questions.  Good ole daddykins who calls her Beautiful and thanks her for choosing him.

She has them over a barrel and she knows it and she loves it.  She does not like the fact that she had to go to jail for it, but the control is important to her.  I think that is why he called her the boss, and then she started denying it, but clearly she likes to yank their chains and then play the injured party.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::    BTW - I love your avi - its pretty.   I love dogs as much as I love cats.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 08:04:56 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:05:05 PM
Now I wonder about Cindy mentioning Lake County I thought it was in Florida, but being that it is in Ohio, and I could have sworn she said she went there. ::MonkeyConfused::
There is Lake county, FL also. Mt Dora I believe is in that area.
http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/ (http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/)
Oh thanks, so then that would make sense that Cindy went there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:05:51 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I tripped over Sassy's tail.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   You're funny Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
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Hi Sea, I saw your post earlier about your FIL and your sister. My prayers are with them, you and your family.

I hope your child is doing better with the both end problems. That has to be really bad for a kid. Hugs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 15, 2009, 08:06:17 PM
Wow, I left on page 86 and came back and the cage was empty!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Had to come over and see how far behind I was! Still trying to find out what happened in this video!

BTW, Welcome to some of the new monkeys joining the cage!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

::MonkeyDance:: WELCOME NEW MONKEYS  ::MonkeyDance::

Another thing NG should stop saying Tot-Mom!! I think tater tots around the world should protest!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

   ::MonkeyLaugh:: I for one am not saying a word 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:06:39 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?
Great, I love your avi. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 15, 2009, 08:06:43 PM
And add these few:

August 12 – George Anthony tells the media he is certain that Caylee was kidnapped.

August 14 – Casey accepts a visit from her parents.

August 16 – The Anthony family appoints Larry Garrison, president of production company SilverCreek Entertainment, as their official spokesperson..

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

I like being able to put things in perspective this way. Thanks, Guideposts.


YW!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:06:55 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????

You'll be in my prayers!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:07:16 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????

We will! And you will be fine, always1 !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 15, 2009, 08:07:53 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????

This monkey will keep you covered in her prayers always!!! You'll be fine sweetie...No worries...:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:07:58 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

   ::MonkeyLaugh:: I for one am not saying a word 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:09:21 PM
I think there is a Lake County in Florida.

Casey can run circles around her parents, even from jail.  She interrupts them, talks over them, blames them for not listening, plays the martyr by saying she never gets to tell her side, and then they shut up and she takes over.  She completely disrespects them and then says a slight, "I'm sorry I upset you...but..." and turns it on them again.  I think she has zero love or respect for them and could care less what they are going through. 

It is interesting that she chose George over Cindy in terms of having a private meeting.  She said to him that they had been apart for months...that must be a reference to the problems they have had since he moved out and then came back.  She is clearly trying to get him in her corner and wants to avoid Cindy and Lee, whom she thinks will ask more questions.  Good ole daddykins who calls her Beautiful and thanks her for choosing him.

She has them over a barrel and she knows it and she loves it.  She does not like the fact that she had to go to jail for it, but the control is important to her.  I think that is why he called her the boss, and then she started denying it, but clearly she likes to yank their chains and then play the injured party.




That visit that was going to be between George and Casey was stopped by Baez. If it would have went forward, I wonder if she would have confessed to him or not? I doubt it very much, but George might have gotten through to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????

Will do Suacey 1.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sleddogs on January 15, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
After listening to the video, this song came to mind.


I Wanna Talk About Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrlzEUuBIM



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:09:54 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

   ::MonkeyLaugh:: I for one am not saying a word 

Me neither!!!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:10:16 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Cyas!

You still do laundry?! I quit doing that when I joined SM!  LOL

(just kidding)
 ::MonkeyDance::
What is laundry? Oh yeah I think I may be doing a load right now. As far as doing the dishes, Joe licks the plates and I put them away!  ::MonkeyCool::

Just Kidding!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:10:17 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????

You'll be in my prayers!   
You will be in my thoughts and prayers also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:10:19 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

Don't you keep him in your pocket?      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 08:10:35 PM
I caught the part about, "I can barely swallow, too" -- LOL.  Was that a Freudian slip? 

Casey says, and I think she said this in another tape too, that she wants Zanny to know that "We forgive her."  Hmmmm Is Zanny her alter-ego, her dark side?  Did she say that Zanny kept Caylee during the day because Zanny was herself without the supervision of Cindy?  Is she really forgiving herself?

Sure she is.  She probably has rationalized anything and everything she did to the child.  It was all Cindy's fault or Caylee's fault or Life's fault, after all, "Life is not fair."

Actually Life may be very fair when she is convicted and Caylee gets justice.

As to why Cindy seems to try to push an interview with Dominick Casey, I can only assume that Cindy thinks he might be able to get some info from Casey that would help them know where Caylee really was.  I think Cindy knows full well that Casey knows and that Caylee is dead. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:11:29 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Cyas!

You still do laundry?! I quit doing that when I joined SM!  LOL

(just kidding)
 ::MonkeyDance::
What is laundry? Oh yeah I think I may be doing a load right now. As far as doing the dishes, Joe licks the plates and I put them away!  ::MonkeyCool::

Just Kidding!
Your own personal dish washer. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 15, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
Well I'm off for the night sweet monkeys.I have no idea why that video has affected me so but it has and not in a good way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-imv1r5tS0&feature=related

Sweet dreams everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 15, 2009, 08:11:54 PM
I have only seen snippets of the video so far.  I have to say that the look in Crazy's eyes is the same as when she was marched into the courthouse the first time, and the way she looked the night they took her out of the house during the middle of the night.  Her eyes are cold looking and scare me to death.  It breaks my heart that is probably the last thing Caylee saw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mig on January 15, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?
Great, I love your avi. ::MonkeyDance::

Thank you.  Credit goes to Brandi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::


We'll need a detailed description in order to help you.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 15, 2009, 08:12:28 PM
Good night, Tater!  I am also going to go now.  Have a good night everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 15, 2009, 08:13:30 PM
Well the Aug 14 video really tells alot. How Casey manipulates her parents, how self-centered the @*#ch is. I couldn't believe when she brought up she heard her mom made chilii adn they probably had alot of people over at the house for it. Wow...George really got on his knees on that one.

It seems her dad tried to make a point how important it was for her to tell what she could. He hinted around trying to help her and I think JB has told her to talk to no one because he wants to take this to the end for his own fame. He is using her as much as anyone and she really needs to get rid of him, make a deal of some kind and tell all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
Well I'm off for the night sweet monkeys.I have no idea why that video has affected me so but it has and not in a good way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-imv1r5tS0&feature=related

Sweet dreams everyone!

Good night Tater!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:14:37 PM
Well I'm off for the night sweet monkeys.I have no idea why that video has affected me so but it has and not in a good way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-imv1r5tS0&feature=related

Sweet dreams everyone!
Good Night, sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
No Rose, didn't she have one visit from George by himself and didn't he ask her when she thought Caylee would be home and didn't she say, "By her birthday?"  I seem to recall that.  He did not get anything from her.  She also told him that she felt in her heart that Caylee was "close to home."  It occurred before the birthday and this interview is after the birthday.  Her mom clearly drives her nuts.  She went off on Cindy within the first few minutes, and Cindy did not even say that much.  I think she wants an interview or visit that is completely private, and so far, they have not gotten that. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:15:04 PM
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Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

Don't you keep him in your pocket?      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is that a monkey in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Actually there is a monkey on the loose in FL that flings poo....just saying. it could happen!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 15, 2009, 08:15:11 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????
Oh A1!  Girl, you have Monkey Mojo!  No Worries! 

Okay - really off to nighty night ... OMG is it cold out there!  Brrrrr Brrrr Brrrr!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:15:15 PM
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::


We'll need a detailed description in order to help you.  ::MonkeyCool::

oh my......     ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 15, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
Well I'm off for the night sweet monkeys.I have no idea why that video has affected me so but it has and not in a good way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-imv1r5tS0&feature=related

Sweet dreams everyone!

Good night Tater!
Night everyone. I am off too. Hubby wants to use computer so I have lost it until tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
BTW Golden Oldie - I did see your post in the last thread ... and it took every fiber of my being not to say something really really bad!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Okay ... letting my dog out ... then watching NG from a warm bed!  Right around 30 below in the lovely state of IN tonight!  Holy Moly!   ::MonkeyEek::

Night Monkeys!
I don't know how you Yankees deal with the cold. I would have to stay home all winter.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
Good night, Tater!  I am also going to go now.  Have a good night everyone!

Night pixie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:16:26 PM
Good night, Tater!  I am also going to go now.  Have a good night everyone!
Good Night, sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 08:17:07 PM
That remark about the chili and the people shows how jealous Casey is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:17:39 PM
Good night Pixie and Tater. Stay warm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:17:47 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I tripped over Sassy's tail.  ::MonkeyCool::
Hey Trimm, you know sassy is married to an Admiral. Maybe it wasn't her tail, it could be he gave her some help.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:17:47 PM
I caught the part about, "I can barely swallow, too" -- LOL.  Was that a Freudian slip? 

Casey says, and I think she said this in another tape too, that she wants Zanny to know that "We forgive her."  Hmmmm Is Zanny her alter-ego, her dark side?  Did she say that Zanny kept Caylee during the day because Zanny was herself without the supervision of Cindy?  Is she really forgiving herself?

Sure she is.  She probably has rationalized anything and everything she did to the child.  It was all Cindy's fault or Caylee's fault or Life's fault, after all, "Life is not fair."

Actually Life may be very fair when she is convicted and Caylee gets justice.
As to why Cindy seems to try to push an interview with Dominick Casey, I can only assume that Cindy thinks he might be able to get some info from Casey that would help them know where Caylee really was.  I think Cindy knows full well that Casey knows and that Caylee is dead. 



 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:19:15 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::    BTW - I love your avi - its pretty.   I love dogs as much as I love cats.
Thanks Sassy, Joe loves cats too. He loves to chase them and bark them to death. JK. O/T have you found Leroy and me an Admiral yet?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:19:20 PM
Dangit sassy

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::    I finally won!      ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now, I don't have to try so hard anymore!    I finally did it!     I'm such a little kid!
You did do it. I'm proud of you and Trimm both. She won the Silver Medal. I am lowly Bronze!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I tripped over Sassy's tail.  ::MonkeyCool::
Hey Trimm, you know sassy is married to an Admiral. Maybe it wasn't her tail, it could be he gave her some help.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 15, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
Well I finally got to watch it...Cindy was a mess.I couldn't help but to feel her desperation.Don't throw nanners at me please.George and all his analagies make me sick.He talks more nonsense then Elmer Fudd...No hard questions because they were so intimidated by her.It's been my opinion all along that they walked around on egg shells when Casey was around because they know the wrath of her anger and have probably dealt with it her whole life.The sad thing for me is imagining little Caylee with her the last moments of her life.I hope more than anything that Caylee was put to sleep and not terrorized by the person she called mom.There will be a special place for Caylee in Heaven and unless KC repents,there will be a special place in hell for her..God comforts no one that does not belong to Him so there you go.Hide your head under the covers and cry KC because no one here really cares.Finally I got mad because she called me ignorant and said I needed to get a life.I bet you she would trade hers for mine in a New York minute!! God it's all just sooooooooo sad...Rest in peace baby girl because justice is going to be served...

Tater, I feel bad for them too.  (duckin my head so I don't get hit).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:19:49 PM
After listening to the video, this song came to mind.


I Wanna Talk About Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrlzEUuBIM



That's funny.     ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?
Great, I love your avi. ::MonkeyDance::

Thank you.  Credit goes to Brandi.

Thank you!  LOL ... There is a boy monkey under that dress .. but don't tell anyone!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 15, 2009, 08:20:07 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Have to get this off my chest.  Just wondering if anyone else has had this thought.   Listening to the meter reader something he said caught my attention.  I can't quote verbatum but he said something about a fallen tree branch and a board across it.  Is it possible that Casey hung Caylee from that tree and than put her in the bag?  Not sure how the car trunk would fit into this but just couldn't shake the feeling. 

Hi mary mary hope the babies are well.  This is the exact thing that I thought when I first heard it.  I was so horrified and afraid to come right out and say it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:20:12 PM
That remark about the chili and the people shows how jealous Casey is.

Yes I caught that too!  What a selfish wench!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:20:36 PM
Good night Originalkat.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
No Rose, didn't she have one visit from George by himself and didn't he ask her when she thought Caylee would be home and didn't she say, "By her birthday?"  I seem to recall that.  He did not get anything from her.  She also told him that she felt in her heart that Caylee was "close to home."  It occurred before the birthday and this interview is after the birthday.  Her mom clearly drives her nuts.  She went off on Cindy within the first few minutes, and Cindy did not even say that much.  I think she wants an interview or visit that is completely private, and so far, they have not gotten that. 


I remember after she had been arrested after the grand jury, I read somewhere that a visit with George was stopped by Baez, and also it appeared that she was going to help LE, and Baez stopped that also the afternoon of her arrest. I could be wrong, but after seeing her performance in this latest released visit, I don't believe she will ever say a word, I had a little bit of hope that she might, but that is all gone now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:21:47 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????
Oh A1!  Girl, you have Monkey Mojo!  No Worries! 

Okay - really off to nighty night ... OMG is it cold out there!  Brrrrr Brrrr Brrrr!

Goodnight Newfie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:21:52 PM
No Rose, didn't she have one visit from George by himself and didn't he ask her when she thought Caylee would be home and didn't she say, "By her birthday?"  I seem to recall that.  He did not get anything from her.  She also told him that she felt in her heart that Caylee was "close to home."  It occurred before the birthday and this interview is after the birthday.  Her mom clearly drives her nuts.  She went off on Cindy within the first few minutes, and Cindy did not even say that much.  I think she wants an interview or visit that is completely private, and so far, they have not gotten that. 



Baez won't allow Casey to meet privately with anyone.     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:22:01 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????
You'll be fine A1. You are brave, you can do it. I hate to fly. I gotta fly to DC with my mom and sister in March. They won't take to kindly to me slamming beer in the bar before our flight. I will say a prayer for you tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 08:22:38 PM
Now I wonder about Cindy mentioning Lake County I thought it was in Florida, but being that it is in Ohio, and I could have sworn she said she went there. ::MonkeyConfused::
There is a Lake County in Florida.  As a side note of trivia, Murt lives in Lake Cty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?
Great, I love your avi. ::MonkeyDance::

Thank you.  Credit goes to Brandi.

Thank you!  LOL ... There is a boy monkey under that dress .. but don't tell anyone!


Well he looks quite lovely. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 15, 2009, 08:24:32 PM
I caught the part about, "I can barely swallow, too" -- LOL.  Was that a Freudian slip? 

Casey says, and I think she said this in another tape too, that she wants Zanny to know that "We forgive her."  Hmmmm Is Zanny her alter-ego, her dark side?  Did she say that Zanny kept Caylee during the day because Zanny was herself without the supervision of Cindy?  Is she really forgiving herself?

Sure she is.  She probably has rationalized anything and everything she did to the child.  It was all Cindy's fault or Caylee's fault or Life's fault, after all, "Life is not fair."

Actually Life may be very fair when she is convicted and Caylee gets justice.

As to why Cindy seems to try to push an interview with Dominick Casey, I can only assume that Cindy thinks he might be able to get some info from Casey that would help them know where Caylee really was.  I think Cindy knows full well that Casey knows and that Caylee is dead. 



Yes.  She does.  That is why Casey doesn't want to see her mom alone.  SHe knows her mom will be able to see her truth.  Then Casey will have to face it herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 15, 2009, 08:24:35 PM
Good Night Monkeys headed for bed!!!   
I'm outta here, too!   Have a nice evening, Everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:25:07 PM
Dinner time darn it.  Have to eat quick so I can go watch NG.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm outa here too Klaasend!  I've got piles of laundry that need washed and folded.  Guess I'll get a TV dinner and watch NG while I do the laundry.  Bye Monkeys!  :smt039

Cyas!

You still do laundry?! I quit doing that when I joined SM!  LOL

(just kidding)
 ::MonkeyDance::
What is laundry? Oh yeah I think I may be doing a load right now. As far as doing the dishes, Joe licks the plates and I put them away!  ::MonkeyCool::

Just Kidding!
Your own personal dish washer. ::MonkeyTongue::
Now if he could only vacuum and do windows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:25:46 PM
Well I'm off for the night sweet monkeys.I have no idea why that video has affected me so but it has and not in a good way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-imv1r5tS0&feature=related

Sweet dreams everyone!
Nite Tater.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mig on January 15, 2009, 08:26:09 PM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?
Great, I love your avi. ::MonkeyDance::

Thank you.  Credit goes to Brandi.

Thank you!  LOL ... There is a boy monkey under that dress .. but don't tell anyone!


Well he looks quite lovely. ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa:: Quite a transformation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 08:26:44 PM
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::


We'll need a detailed description in order to help you.  ::MonkeyCool::

ummm...no...I'm afraid you'll take pictures.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Good Night Monkeys headed for bed!!!   
I'm outta here, too!   Have a nice evening, Everyone!


Nite Sassy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 15, 2009, 08:27:16 PM
LovinLife Said:
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Since everyone's watching the tape and I can't   I just wanted to say that I loved the banner you made for SM Quietmonkey!

Brought this over from the last cage! Thanks LovinLife for the nice compliment on the banner. I call it the Monkey Nanner Banner, and it's free for any monkey to use. Brandi, if you're around could you sparkle it up?

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:28:42 PM
Good Night Monkeys headed for bed!!!   
I'm outta here, too!   Have a nice evening, Everyone!

Good Night to you and all the other Monkeys going to bed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 08:28:45 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....


everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
That remark about the chili and the people shows how jealous Casey is.
Hi Hudsunn. I am behind, but that is what I have felt all along about KC. She is jealous, jealous, jealous. Caylee was at the age that her friends and even boyfriend loved Caylee as much as Casey.

So Casey did what any crazy person does, GOT RID of her competition.  ::MonkeyWaa::

JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
It has to be incredibly hard to acknowledge that your daughter would do this to her own child.

I remember as a teen my friend & I had a little run-in with the law and when the cops called my mom she told them it couldn't have been me - that I would never do something like that.  My mom still remembers driving to get me and thinking to herself that she wont believe it until she see's it. So I guess I can see where G&C were in denial but now that she has been found, give me a break!

BTW - my a$$ was sore for about 2 weeks!!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 15, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
Well,, I watch the whole video with that selfish self-center monster...I had to take a muscle relaxer afterwards... ::MonkeyConfused::How long was this monster in control of this dysfunctioal family.. They are tip toeing around her to get clues where Caylee could possible be.  Ohhh lets not get Casey upset...And they have no one to blame but themseves for the monster they created.

Casey used her child to get what she wanted- A free loader loser...A murdered.. Sweet talking and yesing her to death is not going to get the answer- It didn't in the past and it won't in the future.. I say let her rot in jail and she will have NO choice but to remember why she is in there... Murdering her innocent child Caylee... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
Well,, I watch the whole video with that selfish self-center monster...I had to take a muscle relaxer afterwards... ::MonkeyConfused::How long was this monster in control of this dysfunctioal family.. They are tip toeing around her to get clues where Caylee could possible be.  Ohhh lets not get Casey upset...And they have no one to blame but themseves for the monster they created.

Casey used her child to get what she wanted- A free loader loser...A murdered.. Sweet talking and yesing her to death is not going to get the answer- It didn't in the past and it won't in the future.. I say let her rot in jail and she will have NO choice but to remember why she is in there... Murdering her innocent child Caylee... ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet from a little girl on she was in charge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:33:29 PM
"I am completly out of the loop with everything..."

NO Sweet-tart, you are the effing loop!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 15, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
KitKat.. I assumed Kronk saw a live snake, but maybe not? (He said he was afraid of snakes, thus the reason why he didn't want to go further into the bushes).  Why would a person take a picture of a dead snake, though? That's kind of strange... was it supposed to be some kind of land mark?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:33:59 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....


everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!

Excellent observations, heykim! ... I especially liked "NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie...."

Can't help with NG commentary tonight though. I'll have to wait til later to watch the rerun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 15, 2009, 08:34:50 PM
That visit tape was not really the first time we have heard Casey erupt in "frustration" at her parents.  Remember the first phone call from jail?  She lashed out at everybody for not understanding what she was going through and for the fact that she was in jail and said the call was a total waste of her precious time. 

Things I picked up on right away from that tape were :

  1.  Cindy seemed heartbroken and as others have said, "walking on eggshells" trying to get info from Casey but clueless as to how to handle her daughter.
  2.  Casey often congratulates herself on how "calm" she is being, even after erupting in anger.  In other words, she is saying, "I could be letting everyone have it, but instead, I am keeping the lid on."  Bet her lawyer told her not to show anger if she can help it.
  3.  Casey seems to trust Baez completely.  Cindy and George have mentioned several times that maybe he is not the best attorney, but Casey seems totally committed to staying with him.  They have bonded somehow.
  4.  Casey always expresses concern for herself, even when she tries to say her main concern is Caylee.  She talks about her own issue of being in jail, being out of the loop, being miserable, etc.  It really is all about her, and of course, she is a VICTIM.  She did not hesitate to use that word.
  5.  She clearly hates the media and says she will not give them sh*t.  Boy, that should really help with her image, huh?  LOL
  6.  I think it's funny that she says people who criticize her or suspect her are "ignorant."  Well, we aren't in jail, Casey, and you are.
  7.  Also funny...there was a time, she says, when she might have been able to help find Caylee, but now that she is locked up...no chance.
  8.  Cindy said that she and George did not have the means to get Casey out of jail.  I suppose that means they did not have enough money to make bail and they did not want to put up their homes and cars, etc., to try to raise it.  I think they probably thought if she stewed in jail long enough she would talk.
  9.  I will have to give Baez credit for one thing.  He convinced Casey not to run her motor mouth.  He must have put the fear of God in her to do that, cuz she always loved to talk.  She has said nothing at all to the media, even when she was out of jail.  She has a sense of self-preservation and self-protection that has kicked into gear, and she has not said a word to the media, when many in her position do.  Lawyers always tell their clients not to say a word, but lots of them do, Scott Peterson for example.
 10.  I am convinced more than ever that any tears she sheds are for herself and her predicament, not for Caylee or her parents.[/size]


 
I noticed that when they said they didn't have the means (see red quote), she mentions that they nearly did at one point. Maybe she's talking about the reward money that was put up (she had said "that's half my bail" when she first heard about it), or is she talking about money the A's received from ABC? Didn't they get $200,00 at one point?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:37:09 PM
Watching that video,you'd never think she had a child missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 08:38:27 PM
Watching that video,you'd never think she had a child missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


No, not at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 08:39:16 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....


everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!

Excellent observations, heykim! ... I especially liked "NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie...."

Can't help with NG commentary tonight though. I'll have to wait til later to watch the rerun.


thanks... i have seen the behavior before... the using of a child gives her leverage... the threats to take the child away from them were always there... they were used to hearing it...
when she DID disappear with the baby, they figured that she would return, as she probably ALWAYS did.. when she NEEDED something.....

THIS time was different.... THIS time she didnt COME back... and didnt come back... and didnt come back...

it had to be scary IF they didnt KNOW what happened...

suspecting is one thing..
KNOWING would be another...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 15, 2009, 08:39:20 PM
KitKat.. I assumed Kronk saw a live snake, but maybe not? (He said he was afraid of snakes, thus the reason why he didn't want to go further into the bushes).  Why would a person take a picture of a dead snake, though? That's kind of strange... was it supposed to be some kind of land mark?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't know. Maybe to show what kind of snakes are in the swamp area? The picture of the snake, the snake looked dead to me....a little flat and it was in the back of truck. I certainly wouldn't put a live snake in the back of a truck and take it's picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:41:45 PM
Well,, I watch the whole video with that selfish self-center monster...I had to take a muscle relaxer afterwards... ::MonkeyConfused::How long was this monster in control of this dysfunctioal family.. They are tip toeing around her to get clues where Caylee could possible be.  Ohhh lets not get Casey upset...And they have no one to blame but themseves for the monster they created.

Casey used her child to get what she wanted- A free loader loser...A murdered.. Sweet talking and yesing her to death is not going to get the answer- It didn't in the past and it won't in the future.. I say let her rot in jail and she will have NO choice but to remember why she is in there... Murdering her innocent child Caylee... ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet from a little girl on she was in charge.
I've said it before and will say it again. She is like that little girl Rhoda played by Patty McCormack in The Bad Seed. Jealous the boy wins the competition, so she kills him because he did better and beat her. Caylee was prettier, sweeter and people liked Caylee more than KC, so she had to get rid of her competition. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
Watching that video,you'd never think she had a child missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I know, it is just so strange to me  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 15, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Klaas... I was sent some information that is quite interesting but not sure it is allowed to be posted.. can I send to you and you take a look see please???  It is quite interesting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 08:43:30 PM
i DID notice that casey was all CUTIE PATOOTIE when she had them fawning over her..
it was WHENEVER they even BEGAN to look like they wanted an answer to something.. THAT was when casey would get angry...

when cindy even BEGAN to say " i was at lake something or other" that casey REALLLY got agitated...


i wonder what she THOUGHT she was gonna say..or ask....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
That visit tape was not really the first time we have heard Casey erupt in "frustration" at her parents.  Remember the first phone call from jail?  She lashed out at everybody for not understanding what she was going through and for the fact that she was in jail and said the call was a total waste of her precious time. 

Things I picked up on right away from that tape were :

  1.  Cindy seemed heartbroken and as others have said, "walking on eggshells" trying to get info from Casey but clueless as to how to handle her daughter.
  2.  Casey often congratulates herself on how "calm" she is being, even after erupting in anger.  In other words, she is saying, "I could be letting everyone have it, but instead, I am keeping the lid on."  Bet her lawyer told her not to show anger if she can help it.
  3.  Casey seems to trust Baez completely.  Cindy and George have mentioned several times that maybe he is not the best attorney, but Casey seems totally committed to staying with him.  They have bonded somehow.
  4.  Casey always expresses concern for herself, even when she tries to say her main concern is Caylee.  She talks about her own issue of being in jail, being out of the loop, being miserable, etc.  It really is all about her, and of course, she is a VICTIM.  She did not hesitate to use that word.
  5.  She clearly hates the media and says she will not give them sh*t.  Boy, that should really help with her image, huh?  LOL
  6.  I think it's funny that she says people who criticize her or suspect her are "ignorant."  Well, we aren't in jail, Casey, and you are.
  7.  Also funny...there was a time, she says, when she might have been able to help find Caylee, but now that she is locked up...no chance.
  8.  Cindy said that she and George did not have the means to get Casey out of jail.  I suppose that means they did not have enough money to make bail and they did not want to put up their homes and cars, etc., to try to raise it.  I think they probably thought if she stewed in jail long enough she would talk.
  9.  I will have to give Baez credit for one thing.  He convinced Casey not to run her motor mouth.  He must have put the fear of God in her to do that, cuz she always loved to talk.  She has said nothing at all to the media, even when she was out of jail.  She has a sense of self-preservation and self-protection that has kicked into gear, and she has not said a word to the media, when many in her position do.  Lawyers always tell their clients not to say a word, but lots of them do, Scott Peterson for example.
 10.  I am convinced more than ever that any tears she sheds are for herself and her predicament, not for Caylee or her parents.[/size]


 
I noticed that when they said they didn't have the means (see red quote), she mentions that they nearly did at one point. Maybe she's talking about the reward money that was put up (she had said "that's half my bail" when she first heard about it), or is she talking about money the A's received from ABC? Didn't they get $200,00 at one point?

Or could it be the money George lost gambling? Or Cindy's retirement she used to pay George's Nigerian scam? IDK, I always thought the Nigerian scam was a load of crap. Maybe she meant they had the means, before KC robbed them blind. They bailed her out everyday of her life, why not now? Just some thoughts coming out of my 2 1/2 Miller Lite Brain.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
Klaas... I was sent some information that is quite interesting but not sure it is allowed to be posted.. can I send to you and you take a look see please???  It is quite interesting

Searching - i just love your turtle helmet.  Everytime I see it I think of the day you asked "does this helmet make me look fat?".     ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 08:47:17 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:47:53 PM
Watching that video,you'd never think she had a child missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I know, it is just so strange to me  ::MonkeyConfused::
HE11 watching the video, you wouldn't even know she had a child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sirensong on January 15, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Coming out of lurkdom because this video is stunning.  OMG, OMG, OMG!  She plays her parents like a well oiled machine.  This puppy has been very sick for a very long time.  Casey is actually mad that they are more concerned about Caylee than her!!  I hope G & C are rewatching this video and seeing who thier daughter really is.  This is so frightening to know someone you love and trust could do this to you!  She does not care about any of them!!  Casey is a true monster.  For the very first time, I feel sorry for G&C.  No one deserves this.  True evil and sickness masquerading as a thier daughter.   I am just stunned and upset watching this.  This is truly scary.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
Or could it be the money George lost gambling? Or Cindy's retirement she used to pay George's Nigerian scam? IDK, I always thought the Nigerian scam was a load of crap. Maybe she meant they had the means, before KC robbed them blind. They bailed her out everyday of her life, why not now? Just some thoughts coming out of my 2 1/2 Miller Lite Brain.

Are Cindy's parents that are in the home wealthy?  Wonder if they were going to help.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:49:37 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
I wonder if it was the guy that was the only supporter in front of their house. The black guy with Casey's glasses. IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:51:36 PM
Or could it be the money George lost gambling? Or Cindy's retirement she used to pay George's Nigerian scam? IDK, I always thought the Nigerian scam was a load of crap. Maybe she meant they had the means, before KC robbed them blind. They bailed her out everyday of her life, why not now? Just some thoughts coming out of my 2 1/2 Miller Lite Brain.

Are Cindy's parents that are in the home wealthy?  Wonder if they were going to help.
No I don't believe they are wealthy. And I don't believe Cindy's mom would give one red cent to get KC out of jail. KC had already stolen from her twice, Ms Plesea was DONE with KC Anthony. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 15, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Klaas... I was sent some information that is quite interesting but not sure it is allowed to be posted.. can I send to you and you take a look see please???  It is quite interesting

Searching - i just love your turtle helmet.  Everytime I see it I think of the day you asked "does this helmet make me look fat?".     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thank you. Hope it has helped in breaking the tension :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 08:52:59 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
I wonder if it was the guy that was the only supporter in front of their house. The black guy with Casey's glasses. IDK

So the conversation went something like this:  "Hey how are ya?  Yea, today is our missing GD's 3rd birthday and our daughter swore she would be home by now so we cooked her favorite meal.  Guess she's not coming home so heck, why don't you come on it and have a bowl of chili?  It's really yummy!". 

One twisted family!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:54:53 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 08:55:20 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

i thought THAT sounded odd too..
they were suspicious of everyone and everything by that time... WHY would they allow a total stranger who was ALONE come over on caylees birthday....


hmmmmmm i will be alone tomorrow....OH CINDY! I LIKE CHILI AND CORNBREAD.... can i come OOOOOOOOOOOOVER?


didnt think so...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 15, 2009, 08:55:34 PM
Has anybody seen Tamikosmom?  They say it the plane crash was caused by geese, but I am worried about her little ducky!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 15, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
I wonder if it was the guy that was the only supporter in front of their house. The black guy with Casey's glasses. IDK

So the conversation went something like this:  "Hey how are ya?  Yea, today is our missing GD's 3rd birthday and our daughter swore she would be home by now so we cooked her favorite meal.  Guess she's not coming home so heck, why don't you come on it and have a bowl of chili?  It's really yummy!". 

One twisted family!!


Hahaha I was wondering if it was a guy on topix that had the Compassion for the Ants thread going.. I think he believes they walk on water.. UGGGG  he annoys me..maybe he needs a helmet??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 08:56:53 PM
Or could it be the money George lost gambling? Or Cindy's retirement she used to pay George's Nigerian scam? IDK, I always thought the Nigerian scam was a load of crap. Maybe she meant they had the means, before KC robbed them blind. They bailed her out everyday of her life, why not now? Just some thoughts coming out of my 2 1/2 Miller Lite Brain.

Are Cindy's parents that are in the home wealthy?  Wonder if they were going to help.

Cindy's dad is in a nursing home. Her mother lives in her own home. They are not what I would call wealthy.

George has said that he has a sister who is wealthy though. Sid she was mentally unbalanced or something similar to that, as well.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
I wonder if it was the guy that was the only supporter in front of their house. The black guy with Casey's glasses. IDK

So the conversation went something like this:  "Hey how are ya?  Yea, today is our missing GD's 3rd birthday and our daughter swore she would be home by now so we cooked her favorite meal.  Guess she's not coming home so heck, why don't you come on it and have a bowl of chili?  It's really yummy!". 

One twisted family!!
Yeah, I am lonely sometimes like this guy George is talking about. BUT no one ever offers me chili and cornbread. I gotta order pizza for me and Josef  ::MonkeyWaa:: I like chili with beans of course.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 08:57:50 PM
Klaas... I was sent some information that is quite interesting but not sure it is allowed to be posted.. can I send to you and you take a look see please???  It is quite interesting

Sure, send it

smklaas@hotmail.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:58:03 PM
Has anybody seen Tamikosmom?  They say it the plane crash was caused by geese, but I am worried about her little ducky!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 08:58:38 PM
Has anybody seen Tamikosmom?  They say it the plane crash was caused by geese, but I am worried about her little ducky!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Think I saw her over in the Natalee Holloway thread.  She'd never let ducky out of her sight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 15, 2009, 08:58:58 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....



everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!

Absolutely, she knows anything she tells them is going to be checked out to the Nth degree and proven to be a lie. Basically she is out of any "good" lies.

I also got the feeling that maybe George was trying to hint at her that she could/should get rid of Baez. Did anyone else get that feeling?  ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 08:59:06 PM
Or could it be the money George lost gambling? Or Cindy's retirement she used to pay George's Nigerian scam? IDK, I always thought the Nigerian scam was a load of crap. Maybe she meant they had the means, before KC robbed them blind. They bailed her out everyday of her life, why not now? Just some thoughts coming out of my 2 1/2 Miller Lite Brain.

Are Cindy's parents that are in the home wealthy?  Wonder if they were going to help.

Cindy's dad is in a nursing home. Her mother lives in her own home. They are not what I would call wealthy.

George has said that he has a sister who is wealthy though. Sid she was mentally unbalanced or something similar to that, as well.


I guess it takes one to know one?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 15, 2009, 08:59:41 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 09:00:10 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA

From a locked thread, all you can do is either post the link or highlight your question and paste it again here. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:00:32 PM
Has anybody seen Tamikosmom?  They say it the plane crash was caused by geese, but I am worried about her little ducky!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Think I saw her over in the Natalee Holloway thread.  She'd never let ducky out of her sight!
Klaas how do I bring a post from the previous thread to this one? Someone posted something I think that was creepy and I never got an answer to what they were saying. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 15, 2009, 09:00:40 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.

Okay that wasn't nice. I think they were just being nice to someone in a difficult time. I'll give them that much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:02:35 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:03:38 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA

From a locked thread, all you can do is either post the link or highlight your question and paste it again here. 
Thanks Klaas PLEASE ignore the next post from me.

Have you heard from Muffy Bee? I miss her.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Cappuccino on January 15, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.

Okay that wasn't nice. I think they were just being nice to someone in a difficult time. I'll give them that much.

No, they once again were taking advantage of a naive & challenged person...not so nice    Just like Cindy using a 12 year old child(not that I approve of how that child's own grandmother complains but still has her front and center of this case as well) or anyone else Cindy manipulated with lies and deception to save that devil spawn - Cindy has a ton to answer to herself, all of them do


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: FunnyBunnys on January 15, 2009, 09:05:14 PM
HI Monkeys...been lurking a long time, but figured it's time for me to join in...I really started getting sucked into this case when we were in Orlando...just being there (which happened to be mid August) gave me the chills...just knowing little Caylee was likely there in that town somewhere...anyway...I'm a SAHM to my two girls, where it is freezing cold right now! My avi show our two housebunny, Lily and Brownie...so I'll pass bunny snuggles around the cage as a welcome greeting.......

This video is the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned (as if there wasn't enough evidence already) Casey's true colors really come out, and she seems downright frightening. I think George and Cindy knew in their guts at that time that Caylee was gone, *and* that Casey was responsible...despite putting their "we support our daughter" faces out to the media. Probably afraid that if by some lark she goes free, she will hunt them down too if they ever waivered. As many have said already, you'd never know Casey was a mother in that video...much less the mother of a "missing" child...and yeah, HAVE to agree with the poster that said that Casey's saying "We forgive her" as a mesage to Zenaida forgiving herself for what she knows she did.

The other thing...and I have been thinking about this for awhile...she lost what attention she did have from her parents when Caylee came into the picture. Caylee was their "Do-over", and Casey saw what great parents they could have been, but likely weren't, to her. Maybe if she got rid of Caylee, all that would transfer back to the poor grieving "mother"...Casey. This jives with the aspect of her great need for attention from the men in her life....George was the one she wanted to speak with privately...George was the one she hadn't been close to in a while...it's with George that breaks down and cries to when talking...whether Father or boyfriends...something kicks in when she is communicating with men. George had said in one interview that he wasn't around a lot when Casey was growing up...he was working, etc...but that he had a special relationship with Caylee....can you say Jealousy???

All I can say is I hope and pray there are no questions when this thing goes to trial...

And glad to be here officially...
:)
Kim



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 09:05:26 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....



everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!

Absolutely, she knows anything she tells them is going to be checked out to the Nth degree and proven to be a lie. Basically she is out of any "good" lies.

I also got the feeling that maybe George was trying to hint at her that she could/should get rid of Baez. Did anyone else get that feeling?  ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

well i DEFINITELY got the feeling that they were trying to tell her how SERIOUS this was... and that if she had any qualms about baez not doing what he SAID he was doing... she better figure it OUT!

she just seemed to be saying.. LOOK.. BAEZ IS MY SAVIOR.. hes the ONLY one i can TALK to (who doesnt really want to know what she has done) and he has REPLACED everyone else..
she was defending HIM ......

LEE, he is the one who has a list of QUESTIONS
mom (you just KNEW she wanted to say  mom is the freakazoid who goes OFF on me when i lie)
and DAD.. well... you are a clueless idiot...

but baez.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh BAEZ smiles at me... tells me that he will make everything alright...

YEP... they all  PALE in comparison to jose to her now.... HE is her savior... HE is her family....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:05:37 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.

Okay that wasn't nice. I think they were just being nice to someone in a difficult time. I'll give them that much.
Made me laugh Scatty. I do believe they could be compassionate people. Remember the old lady protester, Cindy was concerned about her blood pressure. OR was it all an act?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 15, 2009, 09:05:56 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::

More to the point, has the stranger been seen since he was invited into the Ant home? ("Welcome to my web", said the spider to the fly...)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 09:07:59 PM
Welcome Funnybunnys.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:08:02 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??

Yeah,that was odd.I wonder who that  was?

I wonder if it was that weird KC fan who was wearing similar sunglasses to KC's, who made a scene in front of their house when the remains were found? Maybe having a nutcase in their house made them feel like KC was home.
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 15, 2009, 09:08:08 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: WELCOME FunnyBunnys  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:09:05 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM
::MonkeyEek:: I want to know what that is about also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:09:49 PM
HI Monkeys...been lurking a long time, but figured it's time for me to join in...I really started getting sucked into this case when we were in Orlando...just being there (which happened to be mid August) gave me the chills...just knowing little Caylee was likely there in that town somewhere...anyway...I'm a SAHM to my two girls, where it is freezing cold right now! My avi show our two housebunny, Lily and Brownie...so I'll pass bunny snuggles around the cage as a welcome greeting.......

This video is the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned (as if there wasn't enough evidence already) Casey's true colors really come out, and she seems downright frightening. I think George and Cindy knew in their guts at that time that Caylee was gone, *and* that Casey was responsible...despite putting their "we support our daughter" faces out to the media. Probably afraid that if by some lark she goes free, she will hunt them down too if they ever waivered. As many have said already, you'd never know Casey was a mother in that video...much less the mother of a "missing" child...and yeah, HAVE to agree with the poster that said that Casey's saying "We forgive her" as a mesage to Zenaida forgiving herself for what she knows she did.

The other thing...and I have been thinking about this for awhile...she lost what attention she did have from her parents when Caylee came into the picture. Caylee was their "Do-over", and Casey saw what great parents they could have been, but likely weren't, to her. Maybe if she got rid of Caylee, all that would transfer back to the poor grieving "mother"...Casey. This jives with the aspect of her great need for attention from the men in her life....George was the one she wanted to speak with privately...George was the one she hadn't been close to in a while...it's with George that breaks down and cries to when talking...whether Father or boyfriends...something kicks in when she is communicating with men. George had said in one interview that he wasn't around a lot when Casey was growing up...he was working, etc...but that he had a special relationship with Caylee....can you say Jealousy???

All I can say is I hope and pray there are no questions when this thing goes to trial...

And glad to be here officially...
:)
Kim


Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
HI Monkeys...been lurking a long time, but figured it's time for me to join in...I really started getting sucked into this case when we were in Orlando...just being there (which happened to be mid August) gave me the chills...just knowing little Caylee was likely there in that town somewhere...anyway...I'm a SAHM to my two girls, where it is freezing cold right now! My avi show our two housebunny, Lily and Brownie...so I'll pass bunny snuggles around the cage as a welcome greeting.......

This video is the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned (as if there wasn't enough evidence already) Casey's true colors really come out, and she seems downright frightening. I think George and Cindy knew in their guts at that time that Caylee was gone, *and* that Casey was responsible...despite putting their "we support our daughter" faces out to the media. Probably afraid that if by some lark she goes free, she will hunt them down too if they ever waivered. As many have said already, you'd never know Casey was a mother in that video...much less the mother of a "missing" child...and yeah, HAVE to agree with the poster that said that Casey's saying "We forgive her" as a mesage to Zenaida forgiving herself for what she knows she did.

The other thing...and I have been thinking about this for awhile...she lost what attention she did have from her parents when Caylee came into the picture. Caylee was their "Do-over", and Casey saw what great parents they could have been, but likely weren't, to her. Maybe if she got rid of Caylee, all that would transfer back to the poor grieving "mother"...Casey. This jives with the aspect of her great need for attention from the men in her life....George was the one she wanted to speak with privately...George was the one she hadn't been close to in a while...it's with George that breaks down and cries to when talking...whether Father or boyfriends...something kicks in when she is communicating with men. George had said in one interview that he wasn't around a lot when Casey was growing up...he was working, etc...but that he had a special relationship with Caylee....can you say Jealousy???

All I can say is I hope and pray there are no questions when this thing goes to trial...

And glad to be here officially...
:)
Kim



Great first post! Welcome to the cage, Kim!

Sorry I haven't made a welcome image with bunnies on it yet!  LOL (I'll work on that tonight.)

But ...

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/monkeyWelcome2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:11:16 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:11:44 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA

From a locked thread, all you can do is either post the link or highlight your question and paste it again here. 
Klaas, do you know what the person was saying in the post that I posted from from the old thread? I know I am confusing   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 15, 2009, 09:11:45 PM
Saw ng, she has said lee is asking for criminal immunity now.
..........
ng never played the angry part of the vidoe, maybe they hadn't had time to spice it up.

 
Has that chiquita ever provided her cell bills ? Or did she communicate with Dom via the tin foil hat ?

..
I am sure Casey is still in contact with the parents and getting letters to them via Jose, just like in the texts Lee and Cindy exchanged.  I really think that if that DP lawyer, Terrence L was the main lawyer, she would be accepting ( begging for ) a plea. There is no way she is going ot beat these charges. ever, no matter how many experts Jose gets on board.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:13:06 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
WELCOME FunnyBunnys, love your bunnys. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:13:20 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 09:13:27 PM
welcome kim!

nice name by the way.........

heh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:14:15 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::
I thought I was the only one thinking something was wonky about this post. Thanks Rose, how is my Zoe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 09:14:25 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA

From a locked thread, all you can do is either post the link or highlight your question and paste it again here. 
Thanks Klaas PLEASE ignore the next post from me.

Have you heard from Muffy Bee? I miss her.  ::MonkeyWaa::

No and Nut and I are trying to find out where she is.  I'm still hoping it's an issue that she's simply without internet.  I hope she's not sick or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:14:25 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:15:07 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::

More to the point, has the stranger been seen since he was invited into the Ant home? ("Welcome to my web", said the spider to the fly...)
  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh, I thought you had a slip of the fingers!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Now I get it.

Please send my Admiral asap.  Thank you in advance   ::MonkeyCool:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:15:51 PM
Saw ng, she has said lee is asking for criminal immunity now.
..........
ng never played the angry part of the vidoe, maybe they hadn't had time to spice it up.

 
Has that chiquita ever provided her cell bills ? Or did she communicate with Dom via the tin foil hat ?

..
I am sure Casey is still in contact with the parents and getting letters to them via Jose, just like in the texts Lee and Cindy exchanged.  I really think that if that DP lawyer, Terrence L was the main lawyer, she would be accepting ( begging for ) a plea. There is no way she is going ot beat these charges. ever, no matter how many experts Jose gets on board.
Tin Foil Hat ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:18:08 PM
Saw ng, she has said lee is asking for criminal immunity now.
..........
ng never played the angry part of the vidoe, maybe they hadn't had time to spice it up.

 
Has that chiquita ever provided her cell bills ? Or did she communicate with Dom via the tin foil hat ?

..
I am sure Casey is still in contact with the parents and getting letters to them via Jose, just like in the texts Lee and Cindy exchanged.  I really think that if that DP lawyer, Terrence L was the main lawyer, she would be accepting ( begging for ) a plea. There is no way she is going ot beat these charges. ever, no matter how many experts Jose gets on board.
Tin Foil Hat ::MonkeyRoll::

But...but...but...it's the Dream Team   ::MonkeyTongue:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:18:20 PM
Klaas, Nut or someone, how to I bring a quote from the last thread here? I asked a question about a post, but never got any answer. TIA


From a locked thread, all you can do is either post the link or highlight your question and paste it again here. 
Thanks Klaas PLEASE ignore the next post from me.

Have you heard from Muffy Bee? I miss her.  ::MonkeyWaa::

No and Nut and I are trying to find out where she is.  I'm still hoping it's an issue that she's simply without internet.  I hope she's not sick or something.
Thanks Klaas. I love Muffy Bee. Please keep me informed. She is nice like all mods, but she reminds me more of the nuns in grade school. Strict but kind. You are like a jr high teacher, less strict and more COOL.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:18:23 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::
I thought I was the only one thinking something was wonky about this post. Thanks Rose, how is my Zoe?
Great, how is Joe? I think she was saying that Nejame defended that person who did that to the little boy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: FunnyBunnys on January 15, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Me Like....heck, just call me Funny Bunny Mummy!!

Thanks for the welcome from all of you!
Kim


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:21:32 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh, I thought you had a slip of the fingers!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Now I get it.

Please send my Admiral asap.  Thank you in advance   ::MonkeyCool:: 
Nope No Admiral for you!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pinkbanana on January 15, 2009, 09:21:38 PM
Hey Monkeys

I will be in a bit... I'm going to make some  coffee....lots of catching up to do.
I am off tomorrow  ::MonkeyDance:: so I am ready to stay up late  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pbxo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ArmsAngels.jpg)
Oh my Nut, you have those two images that so haunt me re my own now teenager...and prob the "nut" of my interest in this heartrending case.

I can't see the vid of the alleged perps rant, but I'd read of her concerns about her own well-being from jump street so already judged her the narcissistic creature I'm know--and learned to despise.

The following are general remarks while I try to catch up 15+ pages.  As re. Grandma/CA?  The parents?  Well, I have my own suspicions about Grandpa.  Imho, the family knew about the sad demise of the darlin' Caylee at some juncture before discovery of remains--and Cindy was kept out of a coverup (if one exists).  Heck, maybe she never will accept that her own kid may have killed her own offspring.  Lord only knows the power of denial, let alone denial that you had an emotionless nutjob in your midst and just let it slide.

I think she has some serious problems, notwithstanding her daughter may well have smoked her grandaughter.  Just try and walk a mile in her shoes right now and the price she'll pay (and has already paid) for dealing w/a sociopathic personality w/kid gloves for too long w/out recognizing that her daughter lacks normal human (let alone maternal) emotion.

All the interrment issues are personal and private I think.  Please understand that I'm very disgusted w/the whole mess.

I'll do my own tally of whom I consider the bad guys when all's said and done.

In the meantime, I want the State's case to be strong enough that whoever killed/or was complicit in killing that little lamb pay dearly.  My opinion is that alleged perp premeditated the baby's demise or possibly fantasized how free she'd be if the child were to die.  But shame on her even though the death might have accidentally occurred.  Too bad for her there's all those pesky net searches on the computer.

I think the whole family has really messed up the gene pool and they tick me off beyond compare.  But myself, I am trying to keep my eye on the alleged perp so I'm assured she is the true perp and justice is done. 

To make a long story longer, I sure wish I could see the poor, poor, pitiful me rant.  I would have backed my kid in the corner and shown her a true control freak mother.  I can't tell you how nuts I would have gone on my own kid about the whereabouts of our own blood kin--that beautiful child Caylee.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pinkbanana on January 15, 2009, 09:25:12 PM
Hey Monkeys

I will be back in a bit... I'm going to make some  coffee....lots of catching up to do.
I am off tomorrow  ::MonkeyDance:: so I am ready to stay up late  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pbxo

haha  I forgot to write back....see why I need coffee.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::
I thought I was the only one thinking something was wonky about this post. Thanks Rose, how is my Zoe?
Great, how is Joe? I think she was saying that Nejame defended that person who did that to the little boy.
He's fine, sleeping now as I should be. Oh, I didn't know he defended someone like that. But, he is an attorney. Maybe Mr Nejame is changing what kind of clients he defends. I guess being around the Ants can make a person have a come to Jesus moment. If I were around them, I would have to go to confession for 12 hours and then take a 4 hour shower to get the ickyness off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 15, 2009, 09:26:36 PM
'Nite Monkeys.I'm heading for the bunky to catch up on some reading.
Everybody have a good evening and stay warm.  ::MonkeyWink::


JSM...Kiss Joseff for me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:27:01 PM
'Nite Monkeys.I'm heading for the bunky to catch up on some reading.
Everybody have a good evening and stay warm.  ::MonkeyWink::


JSM...Kiss Joseff for me.

Nite Trim!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 09:28:07 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Me Like....heck, just call me Funny Bunny Mummy!!

Thanks for the welcome from all of you!
Kim

FunnyBunnys: I kept my promise: Just for you!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/bunnywelcome-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:28:18 PM
Welcome Bunny Mummy. Yes jealousy. SHE'S GOING DOWN! Glad you are officially here!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Okay  you are officially cut off.  No more Miller Lites for you missy!!!
Nope not yet. She said she is a funny bunny that is a stay at home mummy. I just gave her another name! Silly Leroy. I've been asking Sassy about finding us an Admiral! Be nice or you can't have one!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Me Like....heck, just call me Funny Bunny Mummy!!

Thanks for the welcome from all of you!
Kim
Stay Warm and keep the bunnies warm. I hope they are both girls/boys. Don't want you to have more bunnies! JK Welcome again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 15, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
Good evening, monkeys. Isn't it wonderful that all of those people made it off the plane safely? Thanks be to God.

I just wanted to drop a short comment about the latest tape released by the OCSO. I have only two words to say:

EVIL WITCH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:29:01 PM
Hey Monkeys

I will be in a bit... I'm going to make some  coffee....lots of catching up to do.
I am off tomorrow  ::MonkeyDance:: so I am ready to stay up late  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pbxo
Nite PB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:29:21 PM
'Nite Monkeys.I'm heading for the bunky to catch up on some reading.
Everybody have a good evening and stay warm.  ::MonkeyWink::


JSM...Kiss Joseff for me.
Good Night sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:29:45 PM
'Nite Monkeys.I'm heading for the bunky to catch up on some reading.
Everybody have a good evening and stay warm.  ::MonkeyWink::


JSM...Kiss Joseff for me.
Nite Trimm, kissing him now as I type. Love to Digger dog.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LadyB on January 15, 2009, 09:30:24 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:31:01 PM
Good evening, monkeys. Isn't it wonderful that all of those people made it off the plane safely? Thanks be to God.

I just wanted to drop a short comment about the latest tape released by the OCSO. I have only two words to say:

EVIL WITCH

Yep, that about sums it up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I am going to bed now. Thanks for being my Monkey friends. LEROY stay away from the Miller Lite it is MINE.

Foggy Dew, I'm sorry but I have now had three beers and my eyes are crossed. I will read your post in the morning.

Klaas, please keep trying to find my Muffy Bee. I am truly worried about her. I have been O/T all night tonight and she hasn't repremanded me. So something isn't right.

NIGHT ALL, JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:33:31 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

I agree.  I think Cindy burst into tears because she looked into the eyes of her child that killed Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:35:07 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I am going to bed now. Thanks for being my Monkey friends. LEROY stay away from the Miller Lite it is MINE.

Foggy Dew, I'm sorry but I have now had three beers and my eyes are crossed. I will read your post in the morning.

Klaas, please keep trying to find my Muffy Bee. I am truly worried about her. I have been O/T all night tonight and she hasn't repremanded me. So something isn't right.

NIGHT ALL, JSM

Bum night for me - no Admiral, no Miller Lite! 

Good Night JSM.  I'm not far behind you.  I need to find an oversized computer chair so Leroy can fit then I wont feel like I'm neglecting him so much   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 09:35:19 PM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????


Hey, no need to worry about flyin' 'cause you are an agile monkey and can do so: ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:35:20 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.
If only CA had hit KC over the head with a ball bat, just to get Caylee away from KC. Something. I have always wavered on CA, but in that tape I truly feel sorry for Cindy. I have always felt sorry for GA.

Ducking nanner now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 09:35:50 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

yep.. i noticed that too.. why is mom crying already..

i was waiting for one of those christine moments... where she says something to the effect like OH MY GAWD.. what a WASTE a total WASTE...

but she caught herself first..

i assume cause daddy was still there with her... and she didnt want to get dad upset... she is still WORKING on him...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:36:02 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I am going to bed now. Thanks for being my Monkey friends. LEROY stay away from the Miller Lite it is MINE.

Foggy Dew, I'm sorry but I have now had three beers and my eyes are crossed. I will read your post in the morning.

Klaas, please keep trying to find my Muffy Bee. I am truly worried about her. I have been O/T all night tonight and she hasn't repremanded me. So something isn't right.

NIGHT ALL, JSM
Good Night and give Joe a hug.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 15, 2009, 09:36:47 PM
Hey guys where's the link to the video...I could bearly hear it on NG tonight..I don't have the best hearing these days..must be that getting older thing..LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:37:54 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I am going to bed now. Thanks for being my Monkey friends. LEROY stay away from the Miller Lite it is MINE.

Foggy Dew, I'm sorry but I have now had three beers and my eyes are crossed. I will read your post in the morning.

Klaas, please keep trying to find my Muffy Bee. I am truly worried about her. I have been O/T all night tonight and she hasn't repremanded me. So something isn't right.

NIGHT ALL, JSM

Bum night for me - no Admiral, no Miller Lite! 

Good Night JSM.  I'm not far behind you.  I need to find an oversized computer chair so Leroy can fit then I wont feel like I'm neglecting him so much   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 
Night Leroy. Josef lays underneath my computer desk and pulls the cord of my keyboard when he wants to go outside. Some day the laptop fairy will drop me one from the sky and I can sit on my bed and look at SM. Maybe the US Navy fairy can drop us an Admiral from the sky too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:38:03 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brachiate on January 15, 2009, 09:38:11 PM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Nite all Monkeys. I am going to bed now. Thanks for being my Monkey friends. LEROY stay away from the Miller Lite it is MINE.

Foggy Dew, I'm sorry but I have now had three beers and my eyes are crossed. I will read your post in the morning.

Klaas, please keep trying to find my Muffy Bee. I am truly worried about her. I have been O/T all night tonight and she hasn't repremanded me. So something isn't right.

NIGHT ALL, JSM
Good Night and give Joe a hug.
Hugs to Zoe. Stay Warm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:39:40 PM
Hey guys where's the link to the video...I could bearly hear it on NG tonight..I don't have the best hearing these days..must be that getting older thing..LOL
I dont' have the link, but I saw it on WFTV online.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 15, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

yep.. i noticed that too.. why is mom crying already..

i was waiting for one of those christine moments... where she says something to the effect like OH MY GAWD.. what a WASTE a total WASTE...

but she caught herself first..

i assume cause daddy was still there with her... and she didnt want to get dad upset... she is still WORKING on him...

Also when Cindy was showing her the shirts that were made, it seemed Cindy was proud of the shirt, Casey was just kind of like yeah those are nice, she was prolly thinking Oh we are back to Caylee again.
What I wouldn't give to ground and pound Casey Anthony!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 15, 2009, 09:40:23 PM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?

Thanks!
http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LadyB on January 15, 2009, 09:40:36 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

I agree.  I think Cindy burst into tears because she looked into the eyes of her child that killed Caylee.
You are so right Leroy.  I don't think I have ever seen such a cold person as KC is.  It is just chillilng.  I will never forget this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:41:12 PM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?

Thanks!
Brachiate, I have no link, but go to WFTV, that's where I saw it online in all its full glory.

But, I will warn you. You will hate KC Anthony about 3 minutes into it.

She is the most hateful cow on this planet. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

yep.. i noticed that too.. why is mom crying already..

i was waiting for one of those christine moments... where she says something to the effect like OH MY GAWD.. what a WASTE a total WASTE...

but she caught herself first..

i assume cause daddy was still there with her... and she didnt want to get dad upset... she is still WORKING on him...

Also when Cindy was showing her the shirts that were made, it seemed Cindy was proud of the shirt, Casey was just kind of like yeah those are nice, she was prolly thinking Oh we are back to Caylee again.
What I wouldn't give to ground and pound Casey Anthony!!
She said something like oh those are nice but I cant read the bottom of the shirts. How I would love to be able to let her read my fist to her horse face. Sorry, I'm not being a good person tonight. I better go to bed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
Good nite for real.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 09:45:37 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
Quote
A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:47:25 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 09:49:40 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 09:50:33 PM
FunnyBunnys
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 09:50:43 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 09:51:32 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
Quote
A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 


Now here's one of those times when a "quote stack" might have help me as I've finally figured 'em out (a little bit ::MonkeyConfused::). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 15, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?

Thanks!

If you cant get it here:
http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html
you can see it in its entirety but divided into parts on YouTube. Here is part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 09:54:07 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
Quote
A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 

I dont think this poster is a troll...??  Or did I mis-read that   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 09:55:03 PM

Quote from: dogmom4 on Today at 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Today on Today at 02:41:01 PM
Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me.

I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
Quote
A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LadyB on January 15, 2009, 09:57:19 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

yep.. i noticed that too.. why is mom crying already..

i was waiting for one of those christine moments... where she says something to the effect like OH MY GAWD.. what a WASTE a total WASTE...

but she caught herself first..

i assume cause daddy was still there with her... and she didnt want to get dad upset... she is still WORKING on him...

Also when Cindy was showing her the shirts that were made, it seemed Cindy was proud of the shirt, Casey was just kind of like yeah those are nice, she was prolly thinking Oh we are back to Caylee again.
What I wouldn't give to ground and pound Casey Anthony!!
Her attitude to them was so profoundly sickening to me.  Thats most likely how they have always been treated by her, so she has them totally brainwashed.  They need help in a serious way.  I know in their hearts they are so ashamed of her and know the truth.  I think at first they were just trying to pacify her to try and get information, but it didnt work.  If she were my child I would never look on that face again.  She has destroyed all their lives and could care less, but the worst is she killed a little Angel. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 15, 2009, 10:01:11 PM
When KC asked her dad, why is she crying so early, she said it with almost a little smirk.  It shows how truly unfeeling she is.  She cares about nothing, unless it is something she wants.  She has totally run the show forever.  If only CA had squeezed just a little harder on her neck that night, at least until she passed out, then she could not have left with Caylee.  She controls them even from jail.  She will forever make them feel guilty.

yep.. i noticed that too.. why is mom crying already..

i was waiting for one of those christine moments... where she says something to the effect like OH MY GAWD.. what a WASTE a total WASTE...

but she caught herself first..

i assume cause daddy was still there with her... and she didnt want to get dad upset... she is still WORKING on him...

Also when Cindy was showing her the shirts that were made, it seemed Cindy was proud of the shirt, Casey was just kind of like yeah those are nice, she was prolly thinking Oh we are back to Caylee again.
What I wouldn't give to ground and pound Casey Anthony!!
Her attitude to them was so profoundly sickening to me.  Thats most likely how they have always been treated by her, so she has them totally brainwashed.  They need help in a serious way.  I know in their hearts they are so ashamed of her and know the truth.  I think at first they were just trying to pacify her to try and get information, but it didnt work.  If she were my child I would never look on that face again.  She has destroyed all their lives and could care less, but the worst is she killed a little Angel. 

And it did not phase her a bit,she did not blink nor bat an eye and could care less that she has taken the life of an innocent,beautiful little girl that called her Mom,one of the most precious,cherished titles a person could have.sad.. I am so honored to be called Mom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:01:33 PM
Good nite for real.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good night JSM and Josef and all the bunkie monkies!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:02:03 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.

JSM - I can promise she wasn't calling you a troll.  I think she was saying another poster was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:03:51 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

August 19 – Padilla is told he incorrectly filled out the bond paperwork. He fixes the errors and resubmits the forms.

August 20 – Casey's bond is posted.

August 21 – Casey is released from the Orange County jail at approximately 10:30 a.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 10:04:42 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.

JSM - I can promise she wasn't calling you a troll.  I think she was saying another poster was.
I hope so Leroy, I only thought trolls live under bridges and they scared me in story books as a kid. I hope you are right. I don't want to be called a troll.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
Hi Monkeys!  I am so behind!!    ::MonkeyWaa::

Can someone please tell me about the air matress???  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.

JSM - I can promise she wasn't calling you a troll.  I think she was saying another poster was.
I hope so Leroy, I only thought trolls live under bridges and they scared me in story books as a kid. I hope you are right. I don't want to be called a troll.  ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

No my dear, you are not a scary troll!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.

JSM - I can promise she wasn't calling you a troll.  I think she was saying another poster was.
I hope so Leroy, I only thought trolls live under bridges and they scared me in story books as a kid. I hope you are right. I don't want to be called a troll.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Actually I think the poster that made that comment here read it on another forum (probably from a troll) and re-posted it here.  I dont think it was the posters intent to be a troll though.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 15, 2009, 10:09:05 PM
Nite monkeys for real this time. I was reading Adji's thread and Rob's post. Makes me very sad for that little boy and his family.

I am also pissed off that Tim Miller could probably be in Florida right now looking for that poor boy, but the Ants used all TES's resources looking for poor Caylee when the Ants knew she wouldn't be found. So so very sad.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:09:48 PM
Hi Monkeys!  I am so behind!!    ::MonkeyWaa::

Can someone please tell me about the air matress???  TIA

Hey MyTime!!!

Last night, we were discussing an air mattress that the Anthonys had and what they did with it. I know Cindy said that Casey slept on it in Cindy's and George's bedroom with them when she was home on bond.

Also, someone mentioned that they said it was used for Caylee at "the Nanny's."

Then the joke picture of Casey with an air mattress strapped to her back came about.

That's all I know.

Good to see you, btw!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 15, 2009, 10:11:04 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 10:12:11 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

August 19 – Padilla is told he incorrectly filled out the bond paperwork. He fixes the errors and resubmits the forms.

August 20 – Casey's bond is posted.

August 21 – Casey is released from the Orange County jail at approximately 10:30 a.m.
Thank-you I was wrong, but anyway LP said Casey knew that morning of the visit she was going to be bailed out, so I don't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:12:25 PM
Nite monkeys for real this time. I was reading Adji's thread and Rob's post. Makes me very sad for that little boy and his family.

I am also pissed off that Tim Miller could probably be in Florida right now looking for that poor boy, but the Ants used all TES's resources looking for poor Caylee when the Ants knew she wouldn't be found. So so very sad.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I know, I have been following the Adji thread also.  Heartbreaking!

As for the Ant's, my mom always said if you cant say anything nice then dont say anything at all so for tonight i'm going to do that.  BUT only for tonight   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Nighty Nite JSM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: monkeymike on January 15, 2009, 10:12:42 PM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

August 19 – Padilla is told he incorrectly filled out the bond paperwork. He fixes the errors and resubmits the forms.

August 20 – Casey's bond is posted.

August 21 – Casey is released from the Orange County jail at approximately 10:30 a.m.

It appears KC wants out badly. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I is all I heard. Is she putting her parents through all of this hell during this visit to make them put up their house or something of value towards the bond? I know Boo talked to LP, I think and remember Des use to talk to him too. Even HH. Who calls LP anymore? My question would be if the A's were to help commit something towards the bond that LP was arranging. Sorry if this has been answered before. Low profile Monkey here.  Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
Well the Aug 14 video really tells alot. How Casey manipulates her parents, how self-centered the @*#ch is. I couldn't believe when she brought up she heard her mom made chilii adn they probably had alot of people over at the house for it. Wow...George really got on his knees on that one.

It seems her dad tried to make a point how important it was for her to tell what she could. He hinted around trying to help her and I think JB has told her to talk to no one because he wants to take this to the end for his own fame. He is using her as much as anyone and she really needs to get rid of him, make a deal of some kind and tell all.



I'm with you OC.  Would that some the atty for allege perp let it all go forward.  Imagine who much heartache might have been avoided--let alone all the folks that may well go down by virtue of her not having the chance to spill to her folks...though of course she might not have and spun another colorful tale re. Zanny or some other mysterious perp(s). 

It strikes me that such a creative person may well have enjoyed a life of writing/developing screenplays for someone like Stephen King.  But nope, she was more concerned about perpetuating transient relationships to feed her (alter?) ego/looney tunes psyche.  Po', po' pitiful her.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.
No I am saying that dogmom4 is trolling.  He/she posted below and left.  Serveral people had asked for an explaination and this person took off without answering. 
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I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me
.
My original post was
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I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

You than asked about dogmom4's response to me post. 
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I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

And I responded

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When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
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A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 


Hope this helps everyone.  Its really hard to bring over a post from a locked thread without noting who said what.

My preview function isn't working and I'm praying that I got the quotes right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 15, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
yeah that stranger bit in the video that was just released is creepy..wonder if that to is code for someone that they spoke with.  Any thoughts on this stranger?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:16:45 PM
Hi Monkeys!  I am so behind!!    ::MonkeyWaa::

Can someone please tell me about the air matress???  TIA

Hey MyTime!!!

Last night, we were discussing an air mattress that the Anthonys had and what they did with it. I know Cindy said that Casey slept on it in Cindy's and George's bedroom with them when she was home on bond.

Also, someone mentioned that they said it was used for Caylee at "the Nanny's."

Then the joke picture of Casey with an air mattress strapped to her back came about.

That's all I know.

Good to see you, btw!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Thank You Brandi!  Good to see you too.  Living in a warm climate state brings too much company!!  Some people just dont realize, being away from SM this long can cause major withdrawals.  ::MonkeyWink::  BTW it is 46 degrees here. 

I just watched the new video! OMG!!   ::MonkeyConfused::  Casey really knows how to control her parents!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 10:17:14 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::

Next time one of us has a cold and cough we will try that, as a kid I had colds quite a bit and Vicks on the chest and back was frequent, glad I like the smell of Vicks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:17:21 PM


It appears KC wants out badly. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I is all I heard. Is she putting her parents through all of this hell during this visit to make them put up their house or something of value towards the bond? I know Boo talked to LP, I think and remember Des use to talk to him too. Even HH. Who calls LP anymore? My question would be if the A's were to help commit something towards the bond that LP was arranging. Sorry if this has been answered before. Low profile Monkey here.  Thanks

I thought about that too. 

I wonder if LP approached the Ant's prior to this visit and the Ant's said "no thank you".  That would explain Casey saying there was an opportunity.  After this visit maybe they changed their minds and contacted LP and agreed to the bail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brachiate on January 15, 2009, 10:18:09 PM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?
Thanks!

If you cant get it here:
http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html
you can see it in its entirety but divided into parts on YouTube. Here is part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page


Thank You! for the youtube link. And thanks to those who posted the WFTV link but that site seems to be "stuck".

I've read the comments from those who have already watched. I'm prepared to be sick/outraged/incensed...
You can consider me adequately warned.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:19:14 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


Thank you Wyks!  Just put Vicks on the grocery list!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
Janet - I see you!!  Is my Duckie alright??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 10:21:15 PM
yeah that stranger bit in the video that was just released is creepy..wonder if that to is code for someone that they spoke with.  Any thoughts on this stranger?

Only the same as you...it was creepy, also too much detail and out of place in the topic of conversation...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
Thank you Today for the clarification....yes those quotes were hard to figure out for a second.  And I now know why you think that poster was a troll.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:22:02 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"

and she is how old? Calling a young girl beautiful is nice. Not creepy.

Sure, I call my dog beautiful too. LOL

But the way George addresses his adult daughter is just creepy to me.

Maybe just a cultural/way we were raised issue. I dunno.

Was just offering my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 15, 2009, 10:24:35 PM
Yeah, the inviting a "stranger" over to their home on Caylee's birthday was strange.  For one thing, it could have been a reporter or even a policeman in disguise.  LOL  Surely they are not so dumb as to invite a total stranger over when people were sending them hate mail and sometimes protesting outside their home.  Maybe that was said just for the benefit of the listeners. 

If the prosecutor is smart, he will capitalize on Casey jealousy.  She was clearly jealous that they may have had a party on Caylee's birthday, complete with friends and drinks and chili.  I think it will really get her goat if she thinks Cindy and Lee are making money off this. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.
No I am saying that dogmom4 is trolling.  He/she posted below and left.  Serveral people had asked for an explaination and this person took off without answering. 
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I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me
.
My original post was
Quote
I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

You than asked about dogmom4's response to me post. 
Quote
I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

And I responded

Quote
When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
Quote
A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 


Hope this helps everyone.  Its really hard to bring over a post from a locked thread without noting who said what.

My preview function isn't working and I'm praying that I got the quotes right.
No crime/no foul, Today,my friend.

I don't know all the ins and outs of this forum--its my shortcoming, not yours.

But I'm proud to be a bit foggy about the techie details ha ha.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"

I wasn't going to say anything but my Poppie (dad) calls me and my sis beautiful.  Just the way you do to your daughter.  IMO - I dont think it's wrong or weird.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: marymary on January 15, 2009, 10:25:04 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.t

cmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks for the advice Wycks.  You reminded me when I was a kid my mother put onions in our socks when we had a fever....yuk.   Don't know if it worked or not but I sure would have preferred vicks!!!   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: monkeymike on January 15, 2009, 10:25:49 PM


It appears KC wants out badly. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I is all I heard. Is she putting her parents through all of this hell during this visit to make them put up their house or something of value towards the bond? I know Boo talked to LP, I think and remember Des use to talk to him too. Even HH. Who calls LP anymore? My question would be if the A's were to help commit something towards the bond that LP was arranging. Sorry if this has been answered before. Low profile Monkey here.  Thanks

I thought about that too. 

I wonder if LP approached the Ant's prior to this visit and the Ant's said "no thank you".  That would explain Casey saying there was an opportunity.  After this visit maybe they changed their minds and contacted LP and agreed to the bail.

Yes, you said it better than I did. It seemed like she was having a tantrum at certain moments, and whined, and whined more about not being out to help. CA really didn't look like she was buying some of her stuff. But then again, KC rages a bit, and CA back downs. GA just dances around the truth and the Mr. R. kid show does not equal his fairy tale towards her remarks. Thank you for your reply.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 10:27:09 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


Hi Wyks...my mum was a licenced massuse and told me things about reflexology...it's amazing how everything ties in to your feet..also there are many "points" you can push that relieve many different ailments I never imagined were connected together...I'm glad the vicks thing worked for you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
Yeah, the inviting a "stranger" over to their home on Caylee's birthday was strange.  For one thing, it could have been a reporter or even a policeman in disguise.  LOL  Surely they are not so dumb as to invite a total stranger over when people were sending them hate mail and sometimes protesting outside their home.  Maybe that was said just for the benefit of the listeners. 

If the prosecutor is smart, he will capitalize on Casey jealousy.  She was clearly jealous that they may have had a party on Caylee's birthday, complete with friends and drinks and chili.  I think it will really get her goat if she thinks Cindy and Lee are making money off this. 



...or enjoying their lives at all while Casey is in jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Amy of course  ::MonkeyCool::  But not by choice obviously.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 15, 2009, 10:29:30 PM
yeah that stranger bit in the video that was just released is creepy..wonder if that to is code for someone that they spoke with.  Any thoughts on this stranger?

Only the same as you...it was creepy, also too much detail and out of place in the topic of conversation...JMO
Yeah that's what I was thinking it was off topic..most defintly creepy as in why in the world with the whole media focus on you and your family you offer to take a guy in who said he was just LONELY? Umm something fishy there.  This is pure speculation but could this be the night that LP had dinner there..he was was making references that Cindy was in the kitchen cooking and I do believe he said Chili


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:30:03 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 15, 2009, 10:30:14 PM
Night Monkeys    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:30:17 PM


It appears KC wants out badly. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I is all I heard. Is she putting her parents through all of this hell during this visit to make them put up their house or something of value towards the bond? I know Boo talked to LP, I think and remember Des use to talk to him too. Even HH. Who calls LP anymore? My question would be if the A's were to help commit something towards the bond that LP was arranging. Sorry if this has been answered before. Low profile Monkey here.  Thanks

I thought about that too. 

I wonder if LP approached the Ant's prior to this visit and the Ant's said "no thank you".  That would explain Casey saying there was an opportunity.  After this visit maybe they changed their minds and contacted LP and agreed to the bail.

Yes, you said it better than I did. It seemed like she was having a tantrum at certain moments, and whined, and whined more about not being out to help. CA really didn't look like she was buying some of her stuff. But then again, KC rages a bit, and CA back downs. GA just dances around the truth and the Mr. R. kid show does not equal his fairy tale towards her remarks. Thank you for your reply.

Yep - she wanted out BAD.  and when she did get out she didn't do a dang thing...WTF! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 10:31:24 PM
Night Monkeys    ::MonkeyCool::

Good night, Boo! keep warm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:31:52 PM
Yeah, the inviting a "stranger" over to their home on Caylee's birthday was strange.  For one thing, it could have been a reporter or even a policeman in disguise.  LOL  Surely they are not so dumb as to invite a total stranger over when people were sending them hate mail and sometimes protesting outside their home.  Maybe that was said just for the benefit of the listeners. 

If the prosecutor is smart, he will capitalize on Casey jealousy.  She was clearly jealous that they may have had a party on Caylee's birthday, complete with friends and drinks and chili.  I think it will really get her goat if she thinks Cindy and Lee are making money off this. 




i KNOW.. i had this moment where i could almost HEAR her saying to herself.. "JESUS F'ING CHR*ST! I KILLED HER AND THEY STILL ARE TREATING HER BETTER THAN ME! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


oh okay... maybe i have an over active imagination... but honestly... she seemed SO pissed and jealous of them having people (she thought) over for caylees birthday...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:31:52 PM
Night Monkeys    ::MonkeyCool::

Nite Boo.  I hope you are feeling better.  YOu've been awfully quiet lately.  Stay warm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 10:32:12 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"

I wasn't going to say anything but my Poppie (dad) calls me and my sis beautiful.  Just the way you do to your daughter.  IMO - I dont think it's wrong or weird.

This is for Brandi also...my daughter is 6 but I don't think that matters...I did find the way George said it kind of awkward...seemed unnatural like he was forcing it.. I hate to judge that because I find a lot of the way George talks as awkward..I have a brother who talks similarly, expressing affection is very difficult for him too...just a thought


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.t

cmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks for the advice Wycks.  You reminded me when I was a kid my mother put onions in our socks when we had a fever....yuk.   Don't know if it worked or not but I sure would have preferred vicks!!!   


Hi MM - How are you?  Did you forget how to post?  ::MonkeyWink::  I am sure someone can teach you!! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 10:34:09 PM
OK I have finally come out of shock and just wanted to say,,,,,,,poor poor Caylee, this is the Casey she had to live with day in and day out!      What a freaking idiot!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 15, 2009, 10:34:11 PM
You're welcome, all who responded.   ::MonkeyWink::  And SS, it IS amazing, the reflexology info.  There's a place on our feet that when we have a headache, we can press on a spot on the foot (left foot for headache on the left, etc) and it will stop.  Amazing stuff!  And at the toxin site they say to those who don't believe that our feet have connecting points with the rest of the body, to take some garlic and rub it on the bottom of our foot, and within such and such amount of time, we'll be able to 'taste' garlic!   ::MonkeyEek::  Amazing stuff. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"

I wasn't going to say anything but my Poppie (dad) calls me and my sis beautiful.  Just the way you do to your daughter.  IMO - I dont think it's wrong or weird.

This is for Brandi also...my daughter is 6 but I don't think that matters...I did find the way George said it kind of awkward...seemed unnatural like he was forcing it.. I hate to judge that because I find a lot of the way George talks as awkward..I have a brother who talks similarly, expressing affection is very difficult for him too...just a thought

I think you are right on SS.  Perhaps its the way he says it and not so much what he's saying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: monkeymike on January 15, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Amy of course  ::MonkeyCool::  But not by choice obviously.

I have raised some kids and when their teeth are new it takes a while for them to straighten out. At least I have seen some in my family when the little toddlers to especially 7 years olds up had newer teeth and they would be at an angle that didn't look right. I am not a dentist but think this is developed as the jaw bone develops and each new tooth shape the newest ones. Their teeth do straighten up(my children/grandchildren's did.) JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 10:35:59 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: marymary on January 15, 2009, 10:36:40 PM
About that tape...ugh.    It's as if the A's are afraid to express their total despair knowing the sociopath they are talking to has no empathy for others.  Every attempt to express their pain and concern for Caylee is thwarted by Casey and drawn back to how she feels.   It really made me nauseas.....wonder if Vick's in socks would work for this.     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:36:47 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?



Amy of course  ::MonkeyCool::  But not by choice obviously.


i dont think AMY had THAT kinda money... i mean SERIOUSLY.. that kinda work costs BEAU COUP moola!
heck.. i cant hardly afford a filling these days..

and i dont BELIEVE that even if cindy had insurance for them... that would pay for THAT kinda work..

unless someone punched her in the mouth and knocked em out..


naw... that wouldnt be it....

:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Hi Monkeys!  I am so behind!!    ::MonkeyWaa::

Can someone please tell me about the air matress???  TIA
My Time !!!!!!   Yea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:37:58 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?



Amy of course  ::MonkeyCool::  But not by choice obviously.


i dont think AMY had THAT kinda money... i mean SERIOUSLY.. that kinda work costs BEAU COUP moola!
heck.. i cant hardly afford a filling these days..

and i dont BELIEVE that even if cindy had insurance for them... that would pay for THAT kinda work..

unless someone punched her in the mouth and knocked em out..


naw... that wouldnt be it....

:)

You crack me up  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 15, 2009, 10:38:48 PM
That remark about the chili and the people shows how jealous Casey is.


I noticed, ALSO did anyone else notice when they mentioned the presents Caylee got for a birthday she would never see~Casey looked pissed and jealous. B!ATCH!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:38:50 PM
About that tape...ugh.    It's as if the A's are afraid to express their total despair knowing the sociopath they are talking to has no empathy for others.  Every attempt to express their pain and concern for Caylee is thwarted by Casey and drawn back to how she feels.   It really made me nauseas.....wonder if Vick's in socks would work for this.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You may perfer some icecream!!  I did!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 10:39:10 PM
Saw ng, she has said lee is asking for criminal immunity now.
..........
ng never played the angry part of the vidoe, maybe they hadn't had time to spice it up.

 
Has that chiquita ever provided her cell bills ? Or did she communicate with Dom via the tin foil hat ?

..
I am sure Casey is still in contact with the parents and getting letters to them via Jose, just like in the texts Lee and Cindy exchanged.  I really think that if that DP lawyer, Terrence L was the main lawyer, she would be accepting ( begging for ) a plea. There is no way she is going ot beat these charges. ever, no matter how many experts Jose gets on board.


A client/atty in this sort of case'd have to be freakin' dimwits to not hold out for criminal immunity.

I say give it to him if it'll bring the truth as Brother dear knows it (albeit via KC's own hinky words/world view, and his own involvement/truth).

With all due respect, don't be so sure alleged perp'll be found guilty or get off with a slap on the wrist.  We can all stand after the fact and second guess this crime/alleged perp, but look how many were snookered by her. 

My fondest wish is State has a corral full of folks she'd mowed over, seemingly without incident--but are too happy to shed light on how she didn't get over on them long.  I cannot wait 'til this trial.  But I've seen enough to know that she might skate.

OK, back to playing catch up on previous posts.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:39:18 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!


Yes I think this case has taken a toll on him and the TES team.  I hope there is a case to recover some money that are made from book and movie deals.  Civil suits are easier to win vs. criminal -- think OJ.  It might be a good think if no criminal charges are brought against the Anthony's, leaving them open to collecting book and/or movie deals, then NeJame swooping (yes a reference to his vampire days LOL) in and winning a lawsuit for Tim.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 10:40:47 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"
No, not when you say it, but you are a lot different than I perceive George to be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: marymary on January 15, 2009, 10:40:59 PM

Hi MM - How are you?  Did you forget how to post?  ::MonkeyWink::  I am sure someone can teach you!! LOL
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Hi MT

   I guess my posting techniques have gone rusty.  Been very busy lately.  Fancy seeing you here, it's been awhile.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 15, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
That visit tape was not really the first time we have heard Casey erupt in "frustration" at her parents.  Remember the first phone call from jail?  She lashed out at everybody for not understanding what she was going through and for the fact that she was in jail and said the call was a total waste of her precious time. 

Things I picked up on right away from that tape were :

  1.  Cindy seemed heartbroken and as others have said, "walking on eggshells" trying to get info from Casey but clueless as to how to handle her daughter.
  2.  Casey often congratulates herself on how "calm" she is being, even after erupting in anger.  In other words, she is saying, "I could be letting everyone have it, but instead, I am keeping the lid on."  Bet her lawyer told her not to show anger if she can help it.
  3.  Casey seems to trust Baez completely.  Cindy and George have mentioned several times that maybe he is not the best attorney, but Casey seems totally committed to staying with him.  They have bonded somehow.
  4.  Casey always expresses concern for herself, even when she tries to say her main concern is Caylee.  She talks about her own issue of being in jail, being out of the loop, being miserable, etc.  It really is all about her, and of course, she is a VICTIM.  She did not hesitate to use that word.
  5.  She clearly hates the media and says she will not give them sh*t.  Boy, that should really help with her image, huh?  LOL
  6.  I think it's funny that she says people who criticize her or suspect her are "ignorant."  Well, we aren't in jail, Casey, and you are.
  7.  Also funny...there was a time, she says, when she might have been able to help find Caylee, but now that she is locked up...no chance.
  8.  Cindy said that she and George did not have the means to get Casey out of jail.  I suppose that means they did not have enough money to make bail and they did not want to put up their homes and cars, etc., to try to raise it.  I think they probably thought if she stewed in jail long enough she would talk.
  9.  I will have to give Baez credit for one thing.  He convinced Casey not to run her motor mouth.  He must have put the fear of God in her to do that, cuz she always loved to talk.  She has said nothing at all to the media, even when she was out of jail.  She has a sense of self-preservation and self-protection that has kicked into gear, and she has not said a word to the media, when many in her position do.  Lawyers always tell their clients not to say a word, but lots of them do, Scott Peterson for example.
 10.  I am convinced more than ever that any tears she sheds are for herself and her predicament, not for Caylee or her parents.


 

Hudsunn, i LOVE your posts. i think you are right on the money! (if this posts disappears, i give up) it is all about KC! as long as everyone is focused on KC NOT CAYLEE, everything is ok. may i ask you what you do? not specifically, but in general. you always catch everything with KC! if you don't want to answer-no big deal. i just hope it's something dealing with people because you can definetly (sp) read them. i hate to say this, but i don not believe Caylee had a chance with this family. i have no doubt she had very little peace & love in this family. she should have been the most important thing in the world but i feel like she was used as a toy! i hope this doesn't offend anyone, but i do know someone who acts ALOT like cindy & like KC said, she & CINDY are ALOT ALIKE!!!! jmo.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 15, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
Somebody has something to do with Lake County-(FLA) I am sure did you notice how Filfth kind of stammered and got a funny look on her face. I wonder if it has something to do with the nasty pixs?
Mt Dora is also in Lake County. Thats where Sin-dy's mfather is.
She may have wanted filth to talk to D. Casey to tell him where she last saw the baby he was after all looking for her.
Not that I am defending her but Cindy and George are both on egg shells because of how George so eloquently put it-Filth is in control. I think that they think that she has the power of life or death over the baby. Sadly by that time it was too late.
Everyone has mentioned that by the time that interview filth knew LP was getting her out. Casey mentioned that they had an opportunity to get here out but "that's not going to happen now. IIRC wasn't there another person that was going to get her out but that got screwed up or LP was going to do it but there was a snag and he thought he wasn't going to be able to?
I so hate that scum, I've heard stories about womens prisons where they get real inventive about putting objects where they really don't belong to cause pain to the girls they don't like ::MonkeyDance::. Yes I think she should get life in gen pop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:42:08 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
Hi Monkeys!  I am so behind!!    ::MonkeyWaa::

Can someone please tell me about the air matress???  TIA
My Time !!!!!!   Yea.

LOL!!  Hi Always - hope all is well with you!! 

I just listened to Casey and feel kind sick now. I kinda forgot how sickening she truly is!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!



Hi Mytime (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/vinkko.gif)

Really?  I agree with Tim, he should have never gotten involved in this case as it's been nothing but headaches for him in MANY ways.  Do you have the name of that less reputable site?  I'd like to see what they are saying and maybe set them straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:44:15 PM
Somebody has something to do with Lake County-(FLA) I am sure did you notice how Filfth kind of stammered and got a funny look on her face. I wonder if it has something to do with the nasty pixs?
Mt Dora is also in Lake County. Thats where Sin-dy's mfather is.
She may have wanted filth to talk to D. Casey to tell him where she last saw the baby he was after all looking for her.
Not that I am defending her but Cindy and George are both on egg shells because of how George so eloquently put it-Filth is in control. I think that they think that she has the power of life or death over the baby. Sadly by that time it was too late.
Everyone has mentioned that by the time that interview filth knew LP was getting her out. Casey mentioned that they had an opportunity to get here out but "that's not going to happen now. IIRC wasn't there another person that was going to get her out but that got screwed up or LP was going to do it but there was a snag and he thought he wasn't going to be able to?
I so hate that scum, I've heard stories about womens prisons where they get real inventive about putting objects where they really don't belong to cause pain to the girls they don't like ::MonkeyDance::. Yes I think she should get life in gen pop.


And when Lake County is mentioned, Casey still believes that the tape would eventually get out to the media.  George assured her it wouldn't after Lake County was mentioned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:45:14 PM

Hi MM - How are you?  Did you forget how to post?  ::MonkeyWink::  I am sure someone can teach you!! LOL

Hi MT

   I guess my posting techniques have gone rusty.  Been very busy lately.  Fancy seeing you here, it's been awhile.   ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote]

No place like home!  Wonder if Klaas is glad to see my active again?   ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Klaas!!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 15, 2009, 10:45:23 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?

Casey may have had braces as a teenager.  Braces can do miraculous things with teeth and the bite, etc.  Had all three of my sons in braces, two at the same time, and yeppers it was freaking expensive.  Just another thing tho that parents of teens can expect.  Kind of goes along with buying senior class ring and all that.   ::MonkeyWink::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 10:46:26 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
i dont want to listen to it again...
but i SWEAR i heard george say SOMETHING like " we havent said anything about what YOU HAVE SAID"




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 15, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)
I had never noticed how crooked her teeth were, she sure did have her teeth fixed and that is a lot of money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:48:45 PM
Somebody has something to do with Lake County-(FLA) I am sure did you notice how Filfth kind of stammered and got a funny look on her face. I wonder if it has something to do with the nasty pixs?
Mt Dora is also in Lake County. Thats where Sin-dy's mfather is.
She may have wanted filth to talk to D. Casey to tell him where she last saw the baby he was after all looking for her.
Not that I am defending her but Cindy and George are both on egg shells because of how George so eloquently put it-Filth is in control. I think that they think that she has the power of life or death over the baby. Sadly by that time it was too late.
Everyone has mentioned that by the time that interview filth knew LP was getting her out. Casey mentioned that they had an opportunity to get here out but "that's not going to happen now. IIRC wasn't there another person that was going to get her out but that got screwed up or LP was going to do it but there was a snag and he thought he wasn't going to be able to?
I so hate that scum, I've heard stories about womens prisons where they get real inventive about putting objects where they really don't belong to cause pain to the girls they don't like ::MonkeyDance::. Yes I think she should get life in gen pop.


And when Lake County is mentioned, Casey still believes that the tape would eventually get out to the media.  George assured her it wouldn't after Lake County was mentioned.


Ooops, shame on me, I think I just lied.....George may have already told her it wouldn't be released.....it's been a looooong day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)


I REST MY CASE! see there! they ARE different.. aLOT different..
thanks klaas for puttin em together like that..

i wish I COULD afford teeth fixed like that... without a job....


was she sleeping  friends with a dentist?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
okay... i saw the video..
it appears that cindy and george are afraid that if the UPSET her, they wont find out what happened..
when she threatens to walk out... they look very upset..

i know people who lie... and when they are pinned down, they get REALLY ANGRY...
thats what i saw in casey... she doesnst want to be pinned down..
when she was OUT, she could stomp off.. call them names.. go party.
in HERE she kinda is walkin a fine line... wants them on HER side, but CLEARLY doesnt want them questioning her..

she cant TELL them anything... because ALL of her stories turned out to be lies...
NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie....


everyone always KNEW she was lying alot... but they let it slide... they still remained "friends" ...

now she has BAEZ... and HE needs her to lie... or at least SHUT THE HECK UP...
has to be wonderful to have someone like that , right about now..



hubby is watchin tv... so i guess i am stuck with watchin my game on the computer.. AND having yall fill me on on nancy grace show..

thanks in advance!

Excellent observations, heykim! ... I especially liked "NOW she knows that NOT ONLY does she have THE FAMILY able to try to track down those lies, while working and such, but she has THE ENTIRE WORLD scrutinizing her lies..

its got to be hard on her... shes not USED to being TRAPPED and having EVERYONE tracking her every lie...."

Can't help with NG commentary tonight though. I'll have to wait til later to watch the rerun.


The lies can fill in the blanks of her machinations over some period of time.  What LE/State needs to know is what transpired after Grandma Cindy allegedly went off on her that (probably) fateful night and what happened moment by moment afterward as re. Caylee. (aka. the truth).

But can someone like KC articulate the truth?  Who knows, but my guess is that's more apt to occur  when she is very frustrated and PO that she isn't the center of attn (aka the narcissistic critter she's shown herself to be).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 10:51:29 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)
I had never noticed how crooked her teeth were, she sure did have her teeth fixed and that is a lot of money.

i KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOW... its crazy really.. FIXED TEETH.. COLOR CONTACTS... all the makeup and such.. and NO FREAKIN JOB...

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice... really really NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 10:51:47 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!



Hi Mytime (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/vinkko.gif)

Really?  I agree with Tim, he should have never gotten involved in this case as it's been nothing but headaches for him in MANY ways.  Do you have the name of that less reputable site?  I'd like to see what they are saying and maybe set them straight.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You never cease to amaze me!!  LOL  Won't name them - don't want to give them any recognition.  Like I alway say, the truth always surfaces!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: monkeymike on January 15, 2009, 10:51:49 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)

Sorry, my bad. I thought we were talking about Caylee's teeth. Woops! Nite all. Disregard my post about childrens teeth. Never mind....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sirensong on January 15, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
There is a part of the video where CA tells Casey she is worried about Caylee, that at least she knows where Casey is and that she is safe.  Casey goes on to let her mother know that she is really not okay, can't describe how miserable she was on Caylee's BD, etc, etc.  She practically rolls her eyes when she realizes her mother is not going to give her any sympathy.  Then she goes on to tell CA that she KNOWS Caylee is okay, she just feels it, blah blah.  This is so disturbing and clearly shows the lack of concern for her daughter.  She never once says anything about being worried about Caylee in the same way CA is describing.  Compelling video, and I cannot believe it was her attorney that wanted this released???? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 10:54:11 PM
Nite MonkeyMike!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 10:54:29 PM
Monkeymike - no problems, we all read things wrong from time to time.  Have a good nite!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Orchidwmn on January 15, 2009, 10:57:36 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"

I think it is just creepy because we all know just how UGLY she is, and how inappropriate the comment is given the situation.   My DH calls our DD's sweetheart, but he wouldn't be calling them that if one of them was locked up for killing one of our granddaughters!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 10:58:13 PM
Monkeymike - no problems, we all read things wrong from time to time.  Have a good nite!
And write things wrong and spell things wrong ...........like me!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 15, 2009, 10:58:51 PM
Janet - I see you!!  Is my Duckie alright??

Hi mytime.  How ya doing?

I do believe I have undiagnosed ADD.  I can only give one case my undivided attention.  The Natalee Holloway case has my heart.  I attempted to wean myself from it and ... get involved in the Casey Marie case but ... something akin to an addiction ... I backslid.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Nevertheless ... I read over the Orlando online publications each evening to keep updated on the Casey Marie case.

Daughter, SIL and four grandkids are flying to Disneyworld in Orlando, Florida on Monday.  Hubby and I were invited but ... I hate flying and ... it gets worse the old I get ... so I declined for the both of us.  However ... I would have loved to see Mickey and Minnie  again.  I met them years ago at Disneyland in California.  Also ...  I could have taken advantage of being in Orlando and ... driven by all the sites encompassing the Casey Anthony case in a rental vehicle.

Anyways ... Duckie and I will be leaving the cage shortly.  I will climb upon my very best friend's back and ... his feathers will keep me warm as we will soar over the magnificent American landscape on our way to the Northern border.

Take care mytime.

Janet
8:00 PM PT


     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:00:02 PM
Hi Janet, I miss you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
Monkeymike - no problems, we all read things wrong from time to time.  Have a good nite!
And write things wrong and spell things wrong ...........like me!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

And lie...like me   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 11:02:27 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:02:36 PM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)

Sorry, my bad. I thought we were talking about Caylee's teeth. Woops! Nite all. Disregard my post about childrens teeth. Never mind....


heh.. no prob mikey! i knew you would notice what i meant in a post or two.. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sleddogs on January 15, 2009, 11:02:47 PM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:04:31 PM
Janet - I see you!!  Is my Duckie alright??

Hi mytime.  How ya doing?

I do believe I have undiagnosed ADD.  I can only give one case my undivided attention.  The Natalee Holloway case has my heart.  I attempted to wean myself from it and ... get involved in the Casey Marie case but ... something akin to an addiction ... I backslid.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Nevertheless ... I read over the Orlando online publications each evening to keep updated on the Casey Marie case.

Daughter, SIL and four grandkids are flying to Disneyworld in Orlando, Florida on Monday.  Hubby and I were invited but ... I hate flying and ... it gets worse the old I get ... so I declined for the both of us.  However ... I would have loved to see Mickey and Minnie  again.  I met them years ago at Disneyland in California.  Also ...  I could have taken advantage of being in Orlando and ... driven by all the sites encompassing the Casey Anthony case in a rental vehicle.

Anyways ... Duckie and I will be leaving the cage shortly.  I will climb upon my very best friend's back and ... his feathers will keep me warm as we will soar over the magnificent American landscape on our way to the Northern border.

Take care mytime.

Janet
8:00 PM PT


     

 ::MonkeyShocked::  and Mytime!!  I wish you had came!!  I would have followed you all around!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Nice seeing you again!! I hope you stop by more often!!  We all miss you!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 15, 2009, 11:06:19 PM
Hi Janet, I miss you.

A1 ... I see ya lurking on the Natalee Holloway thread.  I would recognize you anywhere.  I do not know anybodyelse who has a size one figure (or some other obscene number) and looks so great in wear a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.

Good Night A1

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 15, 2009, 11:06:47 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.


yep... thats what i am thinkin..
i had noticed it a LONG time ago.. my daughter2 had said something about casey being highprofile case because she was pretty... i said ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HAVE YOU SEEN HER ??
then i noticed later... and her teeth werent the same as in older pics.. and the eyes were a cooler color... and i thought.. WTH?


later i started thinkin.. NO JOB? mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn how do you PAY for stuff like THOSE TEETH and the contacts with NO JOB...

now i just want to know where the money came from... because THAT isnt just a coupla hundred bucks from a friends account... THAT is a HUNK of money from SOMEONE...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 15, 2009, 11:07:30 PM
Well my couch is looking lonely and I just cant have that now can I ?!  Nite All!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 15, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Watching that video,you'd never think she had a child missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I know, it is just so strange to me  ::MonkeyConfused::
HE11 watching the video, you wouldn't even know she had a child.

Just woke up..The soma knocK me out... All Casey did was talk about herself..POS... What about Caylee!! Crying for herself.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:08:31 PM
Klaas............you have mail, Thank You Very Much.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:08:38 PM
Hi Janet, I miss you.

A1 ... I see ya lurking on the Natalee Holloway thread.  I would recognize you anywhere.  I do not know anybodyelse who has a size one figure (or some other obscene number) and looks so great in wear a black silk Philip Lim blouse, Lucky Brand Jeans and boots.

Good Night A1

Janet


Thank you Janet - Big Hug!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 15, 2009, 11:09:19 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.


yep... thats what i am thinkin..
i had noticed it a LONG time ago.. my daughter2 had said something about casey being highprofile case because she was pretty... i said ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HAVE YOU SEEN HER ??
then i noticed later... and her teeth werent the same as in older pics.. and the eyes were a cooler color... and i thought.. WTH?


later i started thinkin.. NO JOB? mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn how do you PAY for stuff like THOSE TEETH and the contacts with NO JOB...

now i just want to know where the money came from... because THAT isnt just a coupla hundred bucks from a friends account... THAT is a HUNK of money from SOMEONE...

I notice that about the teeth and also it looks like she had a nose job of some sort.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:09:27 PM
Well my couch is looking lonely and I just cant have that now can I ?!  Nite All!
Goodnight   Leroy  its time to LIE  down.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 15, 2009, 11:09:41 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Have to get this off my chest.  Just wondering if anyone else has had this thought.   Listening to the meter reader something he said caught my attention.  I can't quote verbatum but he said something about a fallen tree branch and a board across it.  Is it possible that Casey hung Caylee from that tree and than put her in the bag?  Not sure how the car trunk would fit into this but just couldn't shake the feeling. 
That was strange, a board across a fallen tree branch, and I wonder if deputy Cane saw this when he went out on the call?

i wondered about this also, i always thought about the last conversation LA & KC when they kept saying the word PLATFORM??? don't know just things that always pop up in my head.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:09:52 PM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025

Yes we saw that.  Wonder if it's just pending further review?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 15, 2009, 11:10:37 PM
HI Monkeys...been lurking a long time, but figured it's time for me to join in...I really started getting sucked into this case when we were in Orlando...just being there (which happened to be mid August) gave me the chills...just knowing little Caylee was likely there in that town somewhere...anyway...I'm a SAHM to my two girls, where it is freezing cold right now! My avi show our two housebunny, Lily and Brownie...so I'll pass bunny snuggles around the cage as a welcome greeting.......

This video is the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned (as if there wasn't enough evidence already) Casey's true colors really come out, and she seems downright frightening. I think George and Cindy knew in their guts at that time that Caylee was gone, *and* that Casey was responsible...despite putting their "we support our daughter" faces out to the media. Probably afraid that if by some lark she goes free, she will hunt them down too if they ever waivered. As many have said already, you'd never know Casey was a mother in that video...much less the mother of a "missing" child...and yeah, HAVE to agree with the poster that said that Casey's saying "We forgive her" as a mesage to Zenaida forgiving herself for what she knows she did.

The other thing...and I have been thinking about this for awhile...she lost what attention she did have from her parents when Caylee came into the picture. Caylee was their "Do-over", and Casey saw what great parents they could have been, but likely weren't, to her. Maybe if she got rid of Caylee, all that would transfer back to the poor grieving "mother"...Casey. This jives with the aspect of her great need for attention from the men in her life....George was the one she wanted to speak with privately...George was the one she hadn't been close to in a while...it's with George that breaks down and cries to when talking...whether Father or boyfriends...something kicks in when she is communicating with men. George had said in one interview that he wasn't around a lot when Casey was growing up...he was working, etc...but that he had a special relationship with Caylee....can you say Jealousy???

All I can say is I hope and pray there are no questions when this thing goes to trial...

And glad to be here officially...
:)
Kim


ITA.  And who knows how screwed up this kid was by her parents (George and Cindy).  But darn it there are so many girls who don't have all they should have their dads attn and don't end up as alleged perps in the death of their own offspring.  I think this family was the proverbial "perfect storm"...and as the Prince says at the end of Romeo and Juliet, All are punished...

But sadly this is an American tale.

I too hope no stone is left unturned when the State takes its case to the People.

Oh, and welcome.  Sorry I don't know how to do the giant, fun welcome banners, but rest assured you'll get them.  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:11:54 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.

I saw the difference too.  Hubby says it is just that picture!!  I am so glad this was brought up so I can drive him crazier about it!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I can't watch NG with him around because he is not one of  her biggest fans and when she says TotMom, he makes me crazy.  Thank God for DVR's!! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:12:46 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.


yep... thats what i am thinkin..
i had noticed it a LONG time ago.. my daughter2 had said something about casey being highprofile case because she was pretty... i said ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HAVE YOU SEEN HER ??
then i noticed later... and her teeth werent the same as in older pics.. and the eyes were a cooler color... and i thought.. WTH?


later i started thinkin.. NO JOB? mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn how do you PAY for stuff like THOSE TEETH and the contacts with NO JOB...

now i just want to know where the money came from... because THAT isnt just a coupla hundred bucks from a friends account... THAT is a HUNK of money from SOMEONE...

I notice that about the teeth and also it looks like she had a nose job of some sort.. ::MonkeyTongue::

i didnt notice THAT...unless of course you are KIDDING...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 15, 2009, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on Today at 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: pixiecat on Today at 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on Today at 06:22:13 PM
OMG OMG    Cindy tells Casey that in Baez's absence that "DOMINIC" is a good person to talk to - in other words working completely for the Anthonys whatever that takes & can be trusted


THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMM!!!!   Im writing KB I hope she caught that!

How does Casey know Dominic?  Is this the same person as Dominic Casey, the PI?

YES!!    It means DC was in Anthony camp that early on & considered a confidant (Baez better have proof of pay to DC before he claims to have fired him).  Now it becomes clearer why Lee & DC visited Casey later than this TOGETHER     Arrangements for Casey's bail were just being made at this time & Kronk was searching in that area those dates

I am absolutely convinced that DC was searching for that body because he was told exactly where to go, and not by a coo coo psychic that cant produce phone records - I cant think too hard about what I think he would have done on behalf of this family had he found the remains UGH!

Thanks, Capuccino!  I am so glad that he was not the one to find poor little Caylee's remains.  I can only imagine who was on the other end of that call.

========================


Sorry about the quote stack but I am carrying this over from the other thread.

Dominic was in their confidence early on. I remember a poster on topix, e-mailing a poem they had written to george at george's e-mail address and got a response from Dominic Casey. This was in SEPTEMBER.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:15:34 PM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025

Yes we saw that.  Wonder if it's just pending further review?

Deputy Reassigned Over Meter Reader Call Response
Thursday, January 15, 2009 – updated: 4:53 pm EST January 15, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DOCUMENT: Deputy Spent 25 Minutes At Scene
GMA INTERVIEW: Kronk Breaks Silence | Images
KRONK 911 CALLS: Aug. 11 | Aug. 12 | Aug. 13 | Dec. 11
NEW MESSAGE BOARD: Justice For Caylee
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything. Roy Kronk, who called in the tip (listen to that call), said Deputy Cain was rude and didn't really investigate the scene (watch Kronk's GMA interview).

"He pulled out his expandable baton, swept his head from side to side said he didn't find anything and that was it," Kronk said during an interview on GMA.

A sheriff's office document shows Cain spent 25 minutes at the scene (read sheriff's document).

"He told me I was wasting the county's time, that they had gotten a lot of other tips and that was it," Kronk said.

In December, Kronk found Caylee's remains at that same location.

Cain is now under investigation and the Orange County Sheriff's Office said he can't represent himself as a deputy or take law enforcement action either on or off duty. He must also surrender his agency-issued sworn credentials and agency-issued equipment, including his ID cards, badges, vehicle, radio and firearm.

Cain has been with the agency since June of 2006. Records show the deputy is a former California state corrections officer who was hired by Orange County two years ago after strong recommendations from his cousin, Orange County Sgt. David Wade, in several emails to the sheriff's recruiting supervisor.


http://www.wftv.com/news/18487936/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 15, 2009, 11:16:02 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!



Hi Mytime (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/vinkko.gif)

Really?  I agree with Tim, he should have never gotten involved in this case as it's been nothing but headaches for him in MANY ways.  Do you have the name of that less reputable site?  I'd like to see what they are saying and maybe set them straight.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You never cease to amaze me!!  LOL  Won't name them - don't want to give them any recognition.  Like I alway say, the truth always surfaces!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Tim's a great man its a shame he got involved with the Sin-Anthon y's  who didn't want to find their missing grandchild.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 15, 2009, 11:16:57 PM
GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
8:15 PM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.

I saw the difference too.  Hubby says it is just that picture!!  I am so glad this was brought up so I can drive him crazier about it!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I can't watch NG with him around because he is not one of  her biggest fans and when she says TotMom, he makes me crazy.  Thank God for DVR's!! LOL

i guess i would have to look at other pictures.. but in THIS one... the one tooth in front is WAY different looking than they are now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:19:37 PM
Poor Tim!!  Local news 13 just showed him!!  He said getting involved in this case was his biggest mistake!!  It was stated he used up too many resources in this case.

Here is a classic case of - no good deed goes unpunished!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

The Anthony's used and abused him.  Some other less reputable sights are trashing him!  And all he did why try to bring this poor baby home for a proper burial!!  Sad!!



Hi Mytime (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/vinkko.gif)

Really?  I agree with Tim, he should have never gotten involved in this case as it's been nothing but headaches for him in MANY ways.  Do you have the name of that less reputable site?  I'd like to see what they are saying and maybe set them straight.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You never cease to amaze me!!  LOL  Won't name them - don't want to give them any recognition.  Like I alway say, the truth always surfaces!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Tim's a great man its a shame he got involved with the Sin-Anthon y's  who didn't want to find their missing grandchild.. ::MonkeyTongue::

No sure if this is a repost!!  Sorry if it is!!

Caylee Anthony case drained EquuSearch resources, leader says
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
12:50 PM EST, January 15, 2009
 
Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch (right) sits with attorney Mark NeJame at his law office in Orlando on Wednesday, November 12, 2008. (RICARDO RAMIREZ BUXEDA, ORLANDO SENTINEL / November 12, 2008)


Tim Miller, the founder of Texas EquuSearch, has told the Orlando Sentinel that getting his group involved in the Caylee Marie Anthony case might be one of the biggest mistakes he's made for the organization.

In a recent interview with the Sentinel, Miller said that so many resources were used and so much money spent on Caylee's case, they now don't have enough to assist all the other people who contact EquuSearch for help.

The publicity has caused EquuSearch's caseload to increase more than ever. And because of the economy, donations to the nonprofit are down.

"Caylee Anthony was not the very first missing person in this country and she's not going to be the last missing person in this country," Miller said.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-equusearch-011508,0,3058438.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:20:42 PM
GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
8:15 PM PT

Night Janet!!  Sweet dreams!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 15, 2009, 11:21:20 PM
Just when you thought you couldn't hate Casey more.....there's a video!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I just got through with the last thread and this has probably been discussed to death but I have to vent:

1. MANIPULATION: WORD OF THE DAY.  Wow, Her best quality!

2. NARCISSISM:   You don't have to be a psychologist to figure that one out. Just a few quotes:  "It's really, really sad that I have nothing right now, nothing". "Do you really understand how I feel"?  "My entire life has been taken from me". "Everything has been taken away from me".  "With keeping me here you are not helping me. The opportunity was there".
"Iforgive whoever has her".  Casey naracissic way of forgiving herself!

3."All I want is my kid "life" back".

4. BIBLE QUOTE FROM CASEY: GMAB

"LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"          "GIVE UNTO OTHERS"

5. GEORGE IS STUPID:  "You are the Boss".  Just like a corporation....another dumb analogy like the hand thing...I'm the thumb...Does he really think that she wanted to see him because she loves him....She didn't want to see mom because she would dominate ask questions and she didn't want to see Lee because he would "interrogate" her...she just knows George will say Honey this and Honey that and never try to make her give up anything.  Then he actually say that he is "Thankful" that she would see them.  OMG, she should be thankful that they came to see her. This is so screwed up!  ::MonkeyConfused::

6. BODY LANGUAGE: Love to see a report on that.  To me she looks totally guilty! She looks down all the time.  When Cindy was talking about the rumor that Caylee died in the pool she looked to the left (shows deception or lie) and had no emotion yet she was mad because her mom made chili and she wasn't there!

7.  Anytime she talked about Caylee (once or twice) Casey was matter of fact, "I want my Kid back", "I know you'll want Caylee back", but when it was about her it was poor me and the tears!  She even asked in the very beginning why Cindy was crying (she is one cold b!tch)!  Why in the hell do you think she is crying Casey?  She is so wrapped up in herself that nothing or noone else matters!  When she looked at the new T-shirt she calmly states "They are nice, I like them" like she was looking at a new bath mat and shower curtain!!....for goodness sakes Casey that is your daughter on that shirt!!!! I would be crying my eyes out.
Ok, I'll stop ranting now, just a few things from the other thread.

Nikki, hope you feel better soon!

SS, My FIL just started radiation this week for the same thing.  I'll    keep yours in my prayers as well!

Peanut and JAA and all other new monkeys I missed WELCOME!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

kLAAS, Great image shots from the jail visit...The real Casey!

GM, Great Banner!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:21:28 PM
GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
8:15 PM PT

Nite Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:22:10 PM
GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
8:15 PM PT
GOOD NIGHT.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 15, 2009, 11:22:34 PM
Just watching the video.  Casey complains that she has seen some responses to articles online, and they bother her.  Boo friggin hoo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wonder what she'd say if we sent the one with the mattress strapped to her a$$   ::MonkeyWink:: 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseymattress.jpg)

Someone with a decent printer, should print these all out and mail them to the inmate Casey anonymously. I am sure she would get a scream from them. I don't have a printer right now or I'd do it myself. I double dog dare the rest of you. ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 11:24:32 PM
yeah that stranger bit in the video that was just released is creepy..wonder if that to is code for someone that they spoke with.  Any thoughts on this stranger?

Only the same as you...it was creepy, also too much detail and out of place in the topic of conversation...JMO
Yeah that's what I was thinking it was off topic..most defintly creepy as in why in the world with the whole media focus on you and your family you offer to take a guy in who said he was just LONELY? Umm something fishy there.  This is pure speculation but could this be the night that LP had dinner there..he was was making references that Cindy was in the kitchen cooking and I do believe he said Chili

He did say chili...twice I think..KC was saying they had a big gathering and he disputed it saying they just had the one stranger over...really odd..so out of place considering the circumstances and discussion..I never understood the "code" stuff, so I cant comment..but they talk regarding Caylee...like we set a place for her hoping she would return or we looked at photo's and prayed for caylee..I know I'm probably not giving good examples but just anything to acknowledge it was Caylee's birthday..even at first George said " how did you do last Saturday" similar to "the girl" reference..no attachment..impersonal

I hope i'm making some sense  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: bleachedblack on January 15, 2009, 11:25:39 PM
HI Monkeys...been lurking a long time, but figured it's time for me to join in...I really started getting sucked into this case when we were in Orlando...just being there (which happened to be mid August) gave me the chills...just knowing little Caylee was likely there in that town somewhere...anyway...I'm a SAHM to my two girls, where it is freezing cold right now! My avi show our two housebunny, Lily and Brownie...so I'll pass bunny snuggles around the cage as a welcome greeting.......

This video is the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned (as if there wasn't enough evidence already) Casey's true colors really come out, and she seems downright frightening. I think George and Cindy knew in their guts at that time that Caylee was gone, *and* that Casey was responsible...despite putting their "we support our daughter" faces out to the media. Probably afraid that if by some lark she goes free, she will hunt them down too if they ever waivered. As many have said already, you'd never know Casey was a mother in that video...much less the mother of a "missing" child...and yeah, HAVE to agree with the poster that said that Casey's saying "We forgive her" as a mesage to Zenaida forgiving herself for what she knows she did.

The other thing...and I have been thinking about this for awhile...she lost what attention she did have from her parents when Caylee came into the picture. Caylee was their "Do-over", and Casey saw what great parents they could have been, but likely weren't, to her. Maybe if she got rid of Caylee, all that would transfer back to the poor grieving "mother"...Casey. This jives with the aspect of her great need for attention from the men in her life....George was the one she wanted to speak with privately...George was the one she hadn't been close to in a while...it's with George that breaks down and cries to when talking...whether Father or boyfriends...something kicks in when she is communicating with men. George had said in one interview that he wasn't around a lot when Casey was growing up...he was working, etc...but that he had a special relationship with Caylee....can you say Jealousy???

All I can say is I hope and pray there are no questions when this thing goes to trial...

And glad to be here officially...
:)
Kim


ITA.  And who knows how screwed up this kid was by her parents (George and Cindy).  But darn it there are so many girls who don't have all they should have their dads attn and don't end up as alleged perps in the death of their own offspring.  I think this family was the proverbial "perfect storm"...and as the Prince says at the end of Romeo and Juliet, All are punished...

But sadly this is an American tale.

I too hope no stone is left unturned when the State takes its case to the People.

Oh, and welcome.  Sorry I don't know how to do the giant, fun welcome banners, but rest assured you'll get them.  ::cartwheel::


A glooming peace this morning with it brings,

The sun for sorrow will not show his head.

Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things.

Some shall be pardoned and some punished

For never was a story of more woe

Than this of sweet Casey and her momma ho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 15, 2009, 11:25:40 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
Klaas did you get my mail, did I send it to the right place?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: bleachedblack on January 15, 2009, 11:27:26 PM
oops Janet confused me ::MonkeyWaa::

A glooming peace this morning with it brings,

The sun for sorrow will not show his head.

Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things.

Some shall be pardoned and some punished

For never was a story of more woe

Than this of sweet Caylee and her momma ho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 11:27:39 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: wow...I'm way behind...I guess I shouldn't work and post at the same time... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:28:45 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Night Brandi!!  Sweet dreams!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brachiate on January 15, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
Goodnight to all those headed out.

Good evening to the incoming Moonlight Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::

The jailhouse interview video tape is nauseating. Casey has NO interest in her missing daughter. She actually said "i'm a victim, too".  I would very much like her to be the "victim" of a firing squad.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
::MonkeyEek:: wow...I'm way behind...I guess I shouldn't work and post at the same time... ::MonkeyConfused::


yep..   uploading elvis youtubes, getting more elvis avatars.. pettin kittys..   WORKIN  can really put you behind..

as far as your LAST post, about making sense..uh... i am not the best  judge of that *L*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:32:56 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Nite Brandi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:34:13 PM
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Night Brandi!!  Sweet dreams!!

nite bran! I made a visit to your avatar thread earlier... NICE stuff kiddo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:35:11 PM
Klaas did you get my mail, did I send it to the right place?

Yes and I responded to you.  My answer was yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:35:38 PM
Just think if that was a "cot" on Casey's back - we could call her              WHAT GANG?????    Yeah, COT MOM!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"
No, not when you say it, but you are a lot different than I perceive George to be.

Just sayin' Hi so you don't think I'm ignoring you..  ::MonkeyDance::

You waiting for Bearly so you can start trouble again  ::MonkeyTongue::

Did you see the kitty hug I gave you earlier?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:36:23 PM
Klaas did you get my mail, did I send it to the right place?

Yes and I responded to you.  My answer was yes.
Yep I saw after I spoke uhhh responded, and sent you some more.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:37:04 PM
Just think if that was a "cot" on Casey's back - we could call her              WHAT GANG?????    Yeah, COT MOM!!!!!!!!
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:38:09 PM
Did you think it was weird the way George called Casey "Beautiful".  I mean my dad calls me Baby, but that is what he has always called me.  He has never called me by ny name.  And my brother has always called me Dolly.  And my sisters call me Darwe.  But Beautiful just sounds wierd the way he says it.

Yes. I have thought everytime when George has visited Casey, his comments were not appropriate for a father to say to his daughter.

Just creepy. Not my cup of tea.



 ::MonkeyEek:: I call my daughter beautiful ? is that wrong? When she greets me in the morning, I'll say "Hi beautiful"
No, not when you say it, but you are a lot different than I perceive George to be.

Just sayin' Hi so you don't think I'm ignoring you..  ::MonkeyDance::

You waiting for Bearly so you can start trouble again  ::MonkeyTongue::

Did you see the kitty hug I gave you earlier?
I loved the kitty hug you gave me.  No Im just hanging around, knowing I should be in bed, cause I have to get up at six to catch my flight, but I know I wont sleep, cause I am nervous!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
Just think if that was a "cot" on Casey's back - we could call her              WHAT GANG?????    Yeah, COT MOM!!!!!!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: seemeatthebeach on January 15, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 11:41:11 PM
::MonkeyEek:: wow...I'm way behind...I guess I shouldn't work and post at the same time... ::MonkeyConfused::


yep..   uploading elvis youtubes, getting more elvis avatars.. pettin kittys..   WORKIN  can really put you behind..

as far as your LAST post, about making sense..uh... i am not the best  judge of that *L*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: That's OK, I was responding to someone who's probably been gone for half an hour  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".


in some wierd way... i feel like i was there then.. THANK YOU SO MUCH... for including us all in your trip and remembrance!
i for one appreciate it SO SO MUCH...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".
I cant believe his car was parked in the front yard on the grass after all that hoop de doo about the grass and the signs and all.  That was sweet of you to leave those things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:45:14 PM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

Seeme - thanks, that's wonderful and I can't wait to see the photos.  Your mom sounds pretty cool  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:45:37 PM
::MonkeyEek:: wow...I'm way behind...I guess I shouldn't work and post at the same time... ::MonkeyConfused::


yep..   uploading elvis youtubes, getting more elvis avatars.. pettin kittys..   WORKIN  can really put you behind..

as far as your LAST post, about making sense..uh... i am not the best  judge of that *L*

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: That's OK, I was responding to someone who's probably been gone for half an hour  ::MonkeyRoll::


heh.. well it t'warnt ME then darlin.... cause I've been gone for most my life! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:47:20 PM
ive never met a stack quote i COULDNT screw UP....

BAH..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:48:07 PM
Well, I am going to sleep, tomorrow I will be in Austin, Texas, you know, Lord willing and the creek dont rise.  Night eveyone. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:48:37 PM
ive never met a stack quote i COULDNT screw UP....

BAH..

At least you excel in something, lolol   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 15, 2009, 11:48:56 PM

I loved the kitty hug you gave me.  No Im just hanging around, knowing I should be in bed, cause I have to get up at six to catch my flight, but I know I wont sleep, cause I am nervous!!!!!!

I went hunting for hugs for Wyks and came across that one, so I tucked him away for you..

Don't be nervous because of todays incident...that was a one in a million...those pilots did a he** of a good job to bring that plane down the way they did..I'm sure you'll be just fine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 15, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
Well, I am going to sleep, tomorrow I will be in Austin, Texas, you know, Lord willing and the creek dont rise.  Night eveyone. 

Nite Always1 - have a safe trip!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:49:43 PM
Well, I am going to sleep, tomorrow I will be in Austin, Texas, you know, Lord willing and the creek dont rise.  Night eveyone. 

Night Always 1  - Stay Safe!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:49:56 PM
ive never met a stack quote i COULDNT screw UP....

BAH..

At least you excel in something, lolol   ::MonkeyHaHa::

WELLLLLLL now.. THATS one way to look at it..*L*


oh and NITE ALWAYS1!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 15, 2009, 11:49:57 PM

I loved the kitty hug you gave me.  No Im just hanging around, knowing I should be in bed, cause I have to get up at six to catch my flight, but I know I wont sleep, cause I am nervous!!!!!!

I went hunting for hugs for Wyks and came across that one, so I tucked him away for you..

Don't be nervous because of todays incident...that was a one in a million...those pilots did a he** of a good job to bring that plane down the way they did..I'm sure you'll be just fine.
Thank you Sea, big hug from me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 15, 2009, 11:51:57 PM
Well, I am going to sleep, tomorrow I will be in Austin, Texas, you know, Lord willing and the creek dont rise.  Night eveyone. 

well MY crick   creek is rising as we speak... but hey.. if THAT plane rescue thingy today doesnt make you feel like you have NO REASON to worry bout flyin, NUTHIN will ! :)

safe trip kiddo! and hurry home!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 15, 2009, 11:52:32 PM
Hi Gang.  I finally have finished all the chores and can talk to my Monkey friends.  You know, if I spend an hour (or more) reading back, no one will be here when I can finally talk with you, so I'm going to try to read back while currently talking.  Hope that's okay.  I didn't hear the whole jailhouse interview on NG tonight, but did catch all that NG aired.  Casey is so self-concerned it made me sick.  Her mother is weeping and grieving for her dead granddaughter and Casey wants them to remember that it's all about HER!  If she is writing her thoughts down while in jail, they will be a provocative look into the numb brain of a psychopath.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 15, 2009, 11:54:51 PM
i think Cindy has had and/or tried to be in control of KC her entire life. but, once Caylee was born KC had the control. my daughter, not yours, etc, KC new she had the upper hand & it worked until now. or rather as long as there was a chance she (Cindy) could get to see Caylee. it was ok for Cindy to spend money, her time, & whatever as long as KC allowed it. Caylee was KC's daughter, not Cindy's, & KC made sure she proved who was in charge. Caylee was nothing more than a pawn. i do think Cindy loved Caylee, in her own way, but was to scared of KC to stand up to her. i think KC was all along neglecting & whoever knows what else to Caylee, but in the end, after watching that video, i can picture KC snapping & killing Caylee. now, i think Cindy does feel somewhat responsible because she knew what could happen (& did) since she knew KC's rage & jealousy. just like in the visit when KC said she "had to pick 1 person, she (kc) picked dad. (george) Cindy, pretty much said "HERE, SO TALK TO HIM"(you made your choice & it's not me, so there) KC also keeps saying "i'm not in control of anything" (sounds like cindy) & George keeps saying "you are the boss" calming her down, so she feels in control again. i really think Cindy wants to "lose control & make Kc talk"  at 1st, i thought Cindy might have known what happened but now i think she wasn't involved in the actual "act" that led to Caylee's death but is doing everything "in her control' to save KC now. that's all she has left in her mind, and i think she knows she could have done something to save Caylee. too bad Cindy didn't want to make KC mad & take Caylee away from this mess. not taking up for Cindy in anyway whatsoever, but she knows she could have done something. i have seen where mothers and or grandparents give up any kind of life, emotional, financial, identity, to save a child & there is no excuse. i'm sorry for the long post. i should have said at the beginning that this is just me thinking out loud, i am totally more than mad after watching that visit. anyway, i love all the monkeys & am so glad that i happened to end up here. sorry again! i do need to go back & catch up. moving & this case does not help with moving! (but floors are clean-I VACCUUMED (sp?) & got a new steam mop today- ::cartwheel::) but nothing else has been packed.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 15, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".
Thats great for you to leave the things and tell us about your visit, gave me a better view of what it is like Thank You for doing that and have a safe trip, will be waiting on the pictures...Thank You again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 15, 2009, 11:57:56 PM
Hi Gang.  I finally have finished all the chores and can talk to my Monkey friends.  You know, if I spend an hour (or more) reading back, no one will be here when I can finally talk with you, so I'm going to try to read back while currently talking.  Hope that's okay.  I didn't hear the whole jailhouse interview on NG tonight, but did catch all that NG aired.  Casey is so self-concerned it made me sick.  Her mother is weeping and grieving for her dead granddaughter and Casey wants them to remember that it's all about HER!  If she is writing her thoughts down while in jail, they will be a provocative look into the numb brain of a psychopath.

Hi AZLady - Nice to see you!!

That video made me sick.  She looked so evil!  Even sitting in jail, Casey controlled the whole visit.  I so wanted her parents to hang up and walk out!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 16, 2009, 12:00:47 AM
Hi Gang.  I finally have finished all the chores and can talk to my Monkey friends.  You know, if I spend an hour (or more) reading back, no one will be here when I can finally talk with you, so I'm going to try to read back while currently talking.  Hope that's okay.  I didn't hear the whole jailhouse interview on NG tonight, but did catch all that NG aired.  Casey is so self-concerned it made me sick.  Her mother is weeping and grieving for her dead granddaughter and Casey wants them to remember that it's all about HER!  If she is writing her thoughts down while in jail, they will be a provocative look into the numb brain of a psychopath.

Hi AZLady - Nice to see you!!

That video made me sick.  She looked so evil!  Even sitting in jail, Casey controlled the whole visit.  I so wanted her parents to hang up and walk out!!

SO DID I ! i kept thinking.. she is THREATENING them with WALKING OUT..
i thought.. THEY should walk out ... and show her that she has NOTHING to hold over them anymore..
but then i remembered the body hadnt been found yet at that time...
and i understood why they didnt...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 12:01:28 AM
Hi Gang.  I finally have finished all the chores and can talk to my Monkey friends.  You know, if I spend an hour (or more) reading back, no one will be here when I can finally talk with you, so I'm going to try to read back while currently talking.  Hope that's okay.  I didn't hear the whole jailhouse interview on NG tonight, but did catch all that NG aired.  Casey is so self-concerned it made me sick.  Her mother is weeping and grieving for her dead granddaughter and Casey wants them to remember that it's all about HER!  If she is writing her thoughts down while in jail, they will be a provocative look into the numb brain of a psychopath.
Yes, it would.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:01:47 AM
Hi Gang.  I finally have finished all the chores and can talk to my Monkey friends.  You know, if I spend an hour (or more) reading back, no one will be here when I can finally talk with you, so I'm going to try to read back while currently talking.  Hope that's okay.  I didn't hear the whole jailhouse interview on NG tonight, but did catch all that NG aired.  Casey is so self-concerned it made me sick.  Her mother is weeping and grieving for her dead granddaughter and Casey wants them to remember that it's all about HER!  If she is writing her thoughts down while in jail, they will be a provocative look into the numb brain of a psychopath.

Hi AZLady - Nice to see you!!

That video made me sick.  She looked so evil!  Even sitting in jail, Casey controlled the whole visit.  I so wanted her parents to hang up and walk out!!
I think that video showed the real Casey more than any other footage we've seen.  She's cold and manipulative and it came through loud and clear.  At the beginning, people didn't want to believe a young and pretty mother could kill her child.  Well, after watching this video, I believe this woman is capable of killing a child and any other horrific act that would get her what she wants.  Cindy and George's big mistake was in underestimating what a monster she really was. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
Cindy and George have never given Casey an ultimatum in her life.  I really think they are afraid of her--afraid of what she is capable of doing.  They seem to not want to push her too far or hold her too accountable because they know she has no limits.  She doesn't feel any emotion for her parents, or anyone else, that would guide her behavior.  She is just callous and cruel when she tells a weeping Cindy that she chose to speak to her father and not her mother.  While she tries to deflect responsibility for the choice, it is clear that she really doesn't care that her mother feels rejected.  No big deal to her.  I think she revels in the power that her lack of caring for others gives her.  If you don't care about hurting your mother, then it is easy to say whatever will give her what she wants.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 16, 2009, 12:10:08 AM
i thought it was interesting when casey talked about how she has been able to keep herself together... keep her emotions under wrap... but then she showed herself losing that control..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 12:13:24 AM
Casey is very evil hearted and the reason I know it now more than I ever did before is the way she acts when she see's   

                  Cindy crying................My God .....if I saw my Mother crying and grieving like that I would fall completely apart and I just couldnt stand it.................
                                                            She is so cold hearted, the way she just smiled when she first sat down and said "Whats she crying for"   
                                             I wanted right then to say........Because her Granddaughter is gone Dumbass
                                                 
                                               You know the one you done something with and now wont say what!
                                                     
                                                        I HATE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Shell on January 16, 2009, 12:13:38 AM

Hi you all. I have been on a last minute trip to Las Vegas.  (Had a blast and yes I did good, but it was weird seeing the dropoff in people during this economic crisis. I did tip well, but I feel so bad for the workers.) It would take me forever to catch up---but I do see you all talking about a video. Any suggestion as to how far I need to backtrack to see the video link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:14:05 AM
i thought it was interesting when casey talked about how she has been able to keep herself together... keep her emotions under wrap... but then she showed herself losing that control..

I think the only emotion, real emotion, Casey feels is anger.  When she is frustrated or denied, she becomes angry.  I haven't seen any love or even concern from her for anyone.  So, to Casey, keeping her emotions under wrap means not showing her anger or lashing out.  I have a feeling she did this a lot in the past.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 16, 2009, 12:16:25 AM

Hi you all. I have been on a last minute trip to Las Vegas.  (Had a blast and yes I did good, but it was weird seeing the dropoff in people during this economic crisis. I did tip well, but I feel so bad for the workers.) It would take me forever to catch up---but I do see you all talking about a video. Any suggestion as to how far I need to backtrack to see the video link?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:16:52 AM

Hi you all. I have been on a last minute trip to Las Vegas.  (Had a blast and yes I did good, but it was weird seeing the dropoff in people during this economic crisis. I did tip well, but I feel so bad for the workers.) It would take me forever to catch up---but I do see you all talking about a video. Any suggestion as to how far I need to backtrack to see the video link?
Hi Shell.  I'm trying to catch up too, but the link was tonight's Nancy Grace.  It was a video of Casey being visited by George and Cindy on August 14.  It was not previously released so it's new to us.  I'm sure you can find it.

Vegas still has jobs while other cities are losing them.  That City Center they are building there is huge!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 16, 2009, 12:17:03 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".



After this long hectic week, of no Caylee info, I felt bad for not coming around, but that relieves me, thanks. Even though iv only been a part of the Monkeys for a short while i feel im definitely part of it and having that Heart With SM on it is like we all are giving her a gift too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 12:21:35 AM
OKAY.. this is kinda outta left field... but ive been wondering for awhile, and last nite one one of the shows... they showed a pic of casey with a very young caylee..
in the pic, caseys teeth are REALLY different... front teeth crooked and one bigger than the other..

my QUESTION is... where did she get the money for the BOND JOB? now her teeth are straight..
they looked bonded .. or caps... or whatever..
that is VERY VERY VERY expensive... and if they had money problems... (the whole family it appears) WHO PAID for those pearly whites?




Ah...good point.  Wonder if it's part of what was charged on Cindy's charge cards?


thats what I was thinkin klaas..

btw.. anyone know which pic i am talkin about...
its one with caylee about a year maybe? they show it all the time... and it never ceases to amaze me how different her teeth look now...
i figured NO JOB ? WHO PAID FOR EM?

Just a FYI .. I noticed her teeth in older pictures and newer one are quite different also. Just letting you know you are not the only one who thinks there is a big difference.

And it would not surprise me if Casey had some veneers done. They look like it to me in the newer pics.

Just sayin.

I saw the difference too.  Hubby says it is just that picture!!  I am so glad this was brought up so I can drive him crazier about it!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I can't watch NG with him around because he is not one of  her biggest fans and when she says TotMom, he makes me crazy.  Thank God for DVR's!! LOL

i guess i would have to look at other pictures.. but in THIS one... the one tooth in front is WAY different looking than they are now...

i haven't really looked at Kc's teeth so now i will have to. i have porcelain veneers & 8000.00 for the upper 4. but i had to ask this, when all this came out & i'm sorry if this isn't supposed to be discussed but at the beginning (i think it was on KC's myspace) it was mentioned that KC & Cindy had some ummmm, chest work done & was charged on a cc. don't know if any of this is true, but since someone brought up the teeth, i remembered that. does anyone else remember, i know it really doesn't matter except for these are people who are really concerced about their outside appearance, not to mention, i don't really think they had the financial means. just wondering if anyone else remember's this, oh & also i thought at the very beginning, 1st couple of weeks that chili was KC's favorite meal, not Caylee's. i even brought it up when i 1st posted on here. i know cindy's mom in her interview didn't know if Caylee liked chili or not. could be the reason why KC was upset about the "chili on Caylee's birthday-you know KC should have been there if they fixed her favorite food!

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brachiate on January 16, 2009, 12:21:48 AM
Is the full 31 minute video available anywhere else?
Thanks!

If you cant get it here:
http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html
you can see it in its entirety but divided into parts on YouTube. Here is part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page

Thank You! for the youtube link. And thanks to those who posted the WFTV link but that site seems to be "stuck".

I've read the comments from those who have already watched. I'm prepared to be sick/outraged/incensed...
You can consider me adequately warned.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 16, 2009, 12:23:06 AM
well gang... im gonna head on outta here...
i have the rest of my basketball game on... and then NG come on again at ten...

yall have a nice evening...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: VinceVixen on January 16, 2009, 12:23:07 AM
Well that video is one hard thing to watch. It reminded me when I was a teenager and my parents trying to ask me personal questions I didn't want to answer because I felt guilty about something. I just got mad and talked in circles to avoid the conversation. Which is exactly what Casey did. She obviously did not want to talk about Caylee so she got mad at them to force them to change the subject. Cindy you can tell she was dying to ask her more about Caylee and was frustrated that George and Casey kept talking about bull**it. George reminds me of my dad, trying to be nice and calm. When I used to get in trouble at school, he would do just what George is doing. Asking me questions about how I am feeling and what I did that day, just calming me down. Looking back, I wish I could kick my ass as a teenager. Casey is still a little girl who needs an ass kicking. Jail time is not nearly enough to make her change. Nothing is, I suppose because she too self centered. I know if one of my kids was missing, I would keep going over my last days with them over and over and over again, never giving up, certainly not getting upset. Show this video to anyone and you know she killed her daughter.

Sorry had to vent.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:24:54 AM
Well..my eyes are blinking in sync with the advertisement at the bottom of the page so I better sing Good Night Ladies Monkeys...lalala

See you (some of you) in the Morning !  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/sleep.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
Well..my eyes are blinking in sync with the advertisement at the bottom of the page so I better sing Good Night Ladies Monkeys...lalala

See you (some of you) in the Morning !  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/sleep.gif)
Goodnight SS............You remind me of Elvis singing .....He aint heavy, He's my Brother    for some reason............................I Love that song!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 16, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)

Sorry, my bad. I thought we were talking about Caylee's teeth. Woops! Nite all. Disregard my post about childrens teeth. Never mind....


heh.. no prob mikey! i knew you would notice what i meant in a post or two.. :)


hadnt heard anything about *ahem* chest work.. but here ya go WENDI... this is what i was talkin about...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Hey Admiral Sea -   I FINALLY BEAT YOU INTO THE NEW CAGE!       ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I couldn't find my Monkey  ::MonkeyRoll::

   ::MonkeyLaugh:: I for one am not saying a word 

I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 12:34:02 AM
Well..my eyes are blinking in sync with the advertisement at the bottom of the page so I better sing Good Night Ladies Monkeys...lalala

See you (some of you) in the Morning !  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/sleep.gif)

Nite SS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:35:03 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:36:46 AM
Well..my eyes are blinking in sync with the advertisement at the bottom of the page so I better sing Good Night Ladies Monkeys...lalala

See you (some of you) in the Morning !  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/sleep.gif)
Goodnight SS............You remind me of Elvis singing .....He aint heavy, He's my Brother    for some reason............................I Love that song!!!

since I'm here for a brief moment...Geart song...don't think I've ever heard Elvis sing it tho..
I'm gonna check into it in the morning  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:38:32 AM
Is it true that Mark NeJame is representing TES pro bono?  If so, that is good news.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 12:38:33 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?

I'm in AZ and there is a time diff.  I'll have to be a brunch girl!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:38:57 AM
Well..my eyes are blinking in sync with the advertisement at the bottom of the page so I better sing Good Night Ladies Monkeys...lalala

See you (some of you) in the Morning !  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Emoticons/sleep.gif)

Nite SS

Good Night Klaas...and everyone else again..I was just shutting down when Sparky caught my eye..so I couldn't go with out leaving a message  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:40:50 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?

I'm in AZ and there is a time diff.  I'll have to be a brunch girl!!!!



I should be on my third pot by then..so be ready to jazzercise  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:43:10 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?

I'm in AZ and there is a time diff.  I'll have to be a brunch girl!!!!


Hey Sparkenator--I'm in AZ, too.  North Phoenix.  Seeing as I'm a night person anyway, I generally get here when everyone else is nodding off!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: VinceVixen on January 16, 2009, 12:46:02 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?

I'm in AZ and there is a time diff.  I'll have to be a brunch girl!!!!


Hey Sparkenator--I'm in AZ, too.  North Phoenix.  Seeing as I'm a night person anyway, I generally get here when everyone else is nodding off!

Hey I live in Phoenix... By Metro Center... Cool to know there are other Phoenicians here... Just waiting for it to warm up again.. Summer is just around the corner!...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:49:52 AM
Hi VinceVixen.  I know where you are--I taught at GCC for 16 years!  I'm at GCCN now.  It was over 70 degrees today.  When I read about the weather that other Monkeys are having, I have to feel pretty satisfied to live here! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 12:51:09 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::





















Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 12:53:45 AM
http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg (http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

(http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080718_Caylee_Marie_Anthony_2.jpg)

That photo wasn't taken that long ago so her dental work was done fairly recently, IMO

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/caseyteeth.jpg)

Sorry, my bad. I thought we were talking about Caylee's teeth. Woops! Nite all. Disregard my post about childrens teeth. Never mind....


heh.. no prob mikey! i knew you would notice what i meant in a post or two.. :)


hadnt heard anything about *ahem* chest work.. but here ya go WENDI... this is what i was talkin about...

definetly, crowns or veneers, believe me i know teeth. hubby has crowns & i have veneers. they only do want to do crowns on the upper front if there are cavities. i had a small uneven area on only one front tooth, but you have to do a minium of 4 veneers. like i said my front veneers were $8000. (i was very self conscious) & hubby's crowns were about the same except had to have a front implant $4000. cause he got a cavity under his crown again, but our insurance paid-not us personally or i certainly would not have been able to do it. hubby's family owns the company so it cost us zero. but the upkeep is high. i agree she (or someone)has spent some major money on her teeth, at least several thousand! (veneers have to be cleaned by dentist with diamond dust-non abrasive. it is about $50.00 more per cleaning. no, i am not vain, but i have the lupus butterfly rash-it's horrible & i am very self concious so i wanted to at least have pretty teeth. (you wouldn't believe the people that walk up to me & ask "what's wrong with your face?"

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: VinceVixen on January 16, 2009, 12:53:57 AM
Hi VinceVixen.  I know where you are--I taught at GCC for 16 years!  I'm at GCCN now.  It was over 70 degrees today.  When I read about the weather that other Monkeys are having, I have to feel pretty satisfied to live here! 

I know, my mom lives in Indiana and she is at -6 degrees, and here I am in my apartment with the a/c on when it goes over the 70 mark. lol... I attended GCC and received my associate's degree last year... Now I'm going to ASU West... School starts next week... YIKES!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:54:10 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

Dottie, I wonder if Baez himself had seen the video.  It sure doesn't show Casey in a good light.  In fact, this video could convince anyone that she is capable of murder. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 12:55:15 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

I'm totally with you on that!

After I watched this video, I thought to myself, "If every single bit of evidence, information, video, phone conversation, photo, or document ever released was withheld from this case except for THIS ONE VIDEO, I would be CONVINCED she was guilty based on this one video ALONE!"






















Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 12:56:34 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::


Let me try that again (Dottie, I posted inside your quote):

I'm totally with you on that!

After I watched this video, I thought to myself, "If every single bit of evidence, information, video, phone conversation, photo, or document ever released was withheld from this case except for THIS ONE VIDEO, I would be CONVINCED she was guilty based on this one video ALONE!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 12:57:44 AM
Hi VinceVixen.  I know where you are--I taught at GCC for 16 years!  I'm at GCCN now.  It was over 70 degrees today.  When I read about the weather that other Monkeys are having, I have to feel pretty satisfied to live here! 

I know, my mom lives in Indiana and she is at -6 degrees, and here I am in my apartment with the a/c on when it goes over the 70 mark. lol... I attended GCC and received my associate's degree last year... Now I'm going to ASU West... School starts next week... YIKES!
Good for you.  My daughter graduated from West and she like it a lot--much better than Main.  I'm making the most of my time here this week cuz I won't be here next week!  Too much work to do.

Did you watch the whole 30 min video?  I need to set aside time to watch the whole thing, but I got the jist of it on NG.  This is a cold, calculating, manipulative murderer.  I am surprised Baez allowed the world to see her like this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: N2WISHN on January 16, 2009, 01:00:37 AM
I have to admit that this latest video was easier to suffer through than previous ones. Might be cause CA didn't drone on and on as much. She spent most of her visit crying and trying to keep her sorry head off the table. Too bad I have no sympathy or empathy for CA or GA cause they were either sufferring or trying to give the appearance of it. KC didn't show an iota of worry about her missing child or what was being done to find Caylee, just a whole lot of self pity. GA and CA should be proud of the monster they created and continue to support because KC truly is one of a kind. They made her the boss and will always bow down to her because they will never admit that they did anything to make this monster. That appalling family makes me sick and I hope they all rot in the slammer!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 16, 2009, 01:08:34 AM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025

Thanks for posting this, sleddogs.  Wonder if the part I bolded means that LE is admitting that Cain could have acted/responded in less than stellar fashion for an officer?   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: VinceVixen on January 16, 2009, 01:08:56 AM
Hi VinceVixen.  I know where you are--I taught at GCC for 16 years!  I'm at GCCN now.  It was over 70 degrees today.  When I read about the weather that other Monkeys are having, I have to feel pretty satisfied to live here! 

I know, my mom lives in Indiana and she is at -6 degrees, and here I am in my apartment with the a/c on when it goes over the 70 mark. lol... I attended GCC and received my associate's degree last year... Now I'm going to ASU West... School starts next week... YIKES!
Good for you.  My daughter graduated from West and she like it a lot--much better than Main.  I'm making the most of my time here this week cuz I won't be here next week!  Too much work to do.

Did you watch the whole 30 min video?  I need to set aside time to watch the whole thing, but I got the jist of it on NG.  This is a cold, calculating, manipulative murderer.  I am surprised Baez allowed the world to see her like this.

Yes I watched the whole video... And I was not really surprised by the way she acted toward her parents. We all know Casey is guilty of killing her daughter and she just did not want to be questioned by her parents. If she is rationalizing the murder by saying is was Cindy's fault, then I that's why she can't stand Cindy asking her about Caylee. It is really sad. I am a mother of twin boys, and I certainly would not act the way she does if one of them were missing. Casey just wants to avoid it, calling it "the situation" and what will happen at "the trial". She wants to make it seem like these things are happening independently of her, but SHE is the one that created all of this! She killed Caylee and wants everyone to forget about that and focus on Casey. Getting her out of jail so she can go back to partying and sleeping around. I hope the trial goes well and this sad excuse for a human being is locked away. Once that happens, no one will care or remember her. She will just be some "normal" murderer sitting in jail. That is what is going to kill her. The fact that she will be a no one and her lies cannot be used for her gain. Just sit and be invisible to everyone that she had known before. Lonely. I think that is the best torture for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 01:09:49 AM
 ::MonkeyWaa::

Oh, I know there's stuff going on in the case tonight, and I haven't seen a thing!! I had company and just got the dishes put away. I wanted to say HI! and I'm going back to read. I have NG on right now in re-run, so I'll get up with you guys before too long, I hope!!!

I saw in her preview that a new video has been released. Is it worth a look?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:10:21 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

Dottie, I wonder if Baez himself had seen the video.  It sure doesn't show Casey in a good light.  In fact, this video could convince anyone that she is capable of murder. 

Good thought...He couldn't have seen it.  Casey probably told him it would be a good one for her that she cried all.  She is so sick she probably thought it would help her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:11:38 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::


Let me try that again (Dottie, I posted inside your quote):

I'm totally with you on that!

After I watched this video, I thought to myself, "If every single bit of evidence, information, video, phone conversation, photo, or document ever released was withheld from this case except for THIS ONE VIDEO, I would be CONVINCED she was guilty based on this one video ALONE!"

That's exactly the way I feel!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:14:31 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
Hey CBB!  I've got Greta on right now and it's all about the plane crash.  NG was about the new video.  If you havn't seen it you have to watch.  You will be shocked by Casey's behavior.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 01:14:40 AM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025

Thanks for posting this, sleddogs.  Wonder if the part I bolded means that LE is admitting that Cain could have acted/responded in less than stellar fashion for an officer?   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyWink::

I think it is fairly typical for any officer in the midst of an internal investigation to be placed on desk duty.  However, this officer had several prior complaints about a lack of investigation that were dismissed.  I'm withholding my judgment on this till we know more, but I really don't believe in Kronk's complaint any more than I believe the officer was derelict in his duty.  Kronk was so general in what he was reporting that I'm not sure any officer would take him seriously.  Yet, the officer spent 45 minutes on that call.  On the other hand, Kronk may have pulled an incompetent officer.  Who knows?  I'd put blame (if any is to be applied) about 50/50 between Kronk's vague report and the officer's lackadaisical investigation.  Plus, the bag was supposedly underwater.  How did Kronk see it?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 16, 2009, 01:16:27 AM
Good night Monkeys.. see you all tomorrow.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 01:17:26 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
CBB, just watch the 30 minute video just released of Casey and George and Cindy during a jail visit.  It will reinforce what you already know, but it's good to be right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 01:17:56 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
Hey CBB!  I've got Greta on right now and it's all about the plane crash.  NG was about the new video.  If you havn't seen it you have to watch.  You will be shocked by Casey's behavior.  ::MonkeyWink::

Thx, Dottie! I'm flipping back and forth and right now, they're both on the crash, but I'll opt for NG since she has the video. Thx for the info!!    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:18:09 AM
Good night Monkeys.. see you all tomorrow.  ::MonkeyWink::
Goodnight Searching!  Sleep tight!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 01:20:49 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
CBB, just watch the 30 minute video just released of Casey and George and Cindy during a jail visit.  It will reinforce what you already know, but it's good to be right!

Thx, AZ!!!! Will do!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 01:23:08 AM

Yes I watched the whole video... And I was not really surprised by the way she acted toward her parents. We all know Casey is guilty of killing her daughter and she just did not want to be questioned by her parents. If she is rationalizing the murder by saying is was Cindy's fault, then I that's why she can't stand Cindy asking her about Caylee. It is really sad. I am a mother of twin boys, and I certainly would not act the way she does if one of them were missing. Casey just wants to avoid it, calling it "the situation" and what will happen at "the trial". She wants to make it seem like these things are happening independently of her, but SHE is the one that created all of this! She killed Caylee and wants everyone to forget about that and focus on Casey. Getting her out of jail so she can go back to partying and sleeping around. I hope the trial goes well and this sad excuse for a human being is locked away. Once that happens, no one will care or remember her. She will just be some "normal" murderer sitting in jail. That is what is going to kill her. The fact that she will be a no one and her lies cannot be used for her gain. Just sit and be invisible to everyone that she had known before. Lonely. I think that is the best torture for her.
It's that denial of any involvement or responsibility in Caylee's murder that makes everyone just furious with Casey.  She has the ability to disassociate from events around her and it makes you want to shake her!  So frustrating for everyone who has to deal with this woman.  Remember the interviews with LE back in July?  When Melich got her to admit she lied about taking them to Universal and her non-existant job, her voice was so flat and disassociated.  She said the words that Melich was making her say, but her tone showed that she didn't own those words.  She may have been forced to confront the truth, but she still believed in her lies.  Casey is one really tough psychopath.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 01:23:24 AM
::MonkeyWaa::

Oh, I know there's stuff going on in the case tonight, and I haven't seen a thing!! I had company and just got the dishes put away. I wanted to say HI! and I'm going back to read. I have NG on right now in re-run, so I'll get up with you guys before too long, I hope!!!

I saw in her preview that a new video has been released. Is it worth a look?

Video is long, 31 minutes.  You'll get the general idea from NG.  Plenty of time to listen to the entire thing if you want. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 01:25:48 AM


I'm here!  Ha ha ha ha ha.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Oh sure...now you show up...just as I'm leavin'  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hope you're feeling better tonight...you going to join us for Coffee in the morning?

I'm in AZ and there is a time diff.  I'll have to be a brunch girl!!!!


Hey Sparkenator--I'm in AZ, too.  North Phoenix.  Seeing as I'm a night person anyway, I generally get here when everyone else is nodding off!

Hi!  I'm in Chandler, and work at ASU!  Good to meet you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 01:27:43 AM
Sorry if this has been already posted.

(snip)

 ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

An Orange County deputy, who responded to an August call from a meter reader in the area where Caylee Anthony's remains were later found, was removed from patrols Thursday and put on desk duty.

Deputy Richard Cain went to the area on August 13, where Caylee's remains were eventually found, but didn't find anything.

http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45025

Thanks for posting this, sleddogs.  Wonder if the part I bolded means that LE is admitting that Cain could have acted/responded in less than stellar fashion for an officer?   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyWink::

I think it is fairly typical for any officer in the midst of an internal investigation to be placed on desk duty.  However, this officer had several prior complaints about a lack of investigation that were dismissed.  I'm withholding my judgment on this till we know more, but I really don't believe in Kronk's complaint any more than I believe the officer was derelict in his duty.  Kronk was so general in what he was reporting that I'm not sure any officer would take him seriously.  Yet, the officer spent 45 minutes on that call.  On the other hand, Kronk may have pulled an incompetent officer.  Who knows?  I'd put blame (if any is to be applied) about 50/50 between Kronk's vague report and the officer's lackadaisical investigation.  Plus, the bag was supposedly underwater.  How did Kronk see it?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I don't know. If I were an officer who got called out to investigate a bag underwater that someone thought was Caylee, I do think I might try to look at the bag.

I have no problem believing this officer was "derelict" in his duty because he had a whole history of not dealing with it when he was sent out on calls. Obviously he just doesn't want to be sent out on calls, and for all we know he'd been asking for a desk assignment for ages.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:29:01 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
Hey CBB!  I've got Greta on right now and it's all about the plane crash.  NG was about the new video.  If you havn't seen it you have to watch.  You will be shocked by Casey's behavior.  ::MonkeyWink::

Thx, Dottie! I'm flipping back and forth and right now, they're both on the crash, but I'll opt for NG since she has the video. Thx for the info!!    ::MonkeyWink::
This is what I got from the video.  It's worth watching.
Just when you thought you couldn't hate Casey more.....there's a video!   I just got through with the last thread and this has probably been discussed to death but I have to vent:

1. MANIPULATION: WORD OF THE DAY.  Wow, Her best quality!

2. NARCISSISM:   You don't have to be a psychologist to figure that one out. Just a few quotes:  "It's really, really sad that I have nothing right now, nothing". "Do you really understand how I feel"?  "My entire life has been taken from me". "Everything has been taken away from me".  "With keeping me here you are not helping me. The opportunity was there".
"Iforgive whoever has her".  Casey naracissic way of forgiving herself!

3."All I want is my kid "life" back".

4. BIBLE QUOTE FROM CASEY: GMAB

"LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"          "GIVE UNTO OTHERS"

5. GEORGE IS STUPID:  "You are the Boss".  Just like a corporation....another dumb analogy like the hand thing...I'm the thumb...Does he really think that she wanted to see him because she loves him....She didn't want to see mom because she would dominate ask questions and she didn't want to see Lee because he would "interrogate" her...she just knows George will say Honey this and Honey that and never try to make her give up anything.  Then he actually say that he is "Thankful" that she would see them.  OMG, she should be thankful that they came to see her. This is so screwed up! 

6. BODY LANGUAGE: Love to see a report on that.  To me she looks totally guilty! She looks down all the time.  When Cindy was talking about the rumor that Caylee died in the pool she looked to the left (shows deception or lie) and had no emotion yet she was mad because her mom made chili and she wasn't there!

7.  Anytime she talked about Caylee (once or twice) Casey was matter of fact, "I want my Kid back", "I know you'll want Caylee back", but when it was about her it was poor me and the tears!  She even asked in the very beginning why Cindy was crying (she is one cold b!tch)!  Why in the hell do you think she is crying Casey?  She is so wrapped up in herself that nothing or noone else matters!  When she looked at the new T-shirt she calmly states "They are nice, I like them" like she was looking at a new bath mat and shower curtain!!....for goodness sakes Casey that is your daughter on that shirt!!!! I would be crying my eyes out.
Ok, I'll stop ranting now, just a few things from the other thread.

Nikki, hope you feel better soon!

SS, My FIL just started radiation this week for the same thing.  I'll    keep yours in my prayers as well!

Peanut and JAA and all other new monkeys I missed WELCOME!!! 

kLAAS, Great image shots from the jail visit...The real Casey!

GM, Great Banner!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 01:35:20 AM
Hi!  I'm in Chandler, and work at ASU!  Good to meet you!
Chandler is great--my sister and son live there, too.  Are you looking forward to this trial like I am?  I'm sure it will be moved up from March, but I hope not too far.  This trial will not only answer some of our questions, but verify that LE really do have their act together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 01:49:11 AM
Hi!  I'm in Chandler, and work at ASU!  Good to meet you!
Chandler is great--my sister and son live there, too.  Are you looking forward to this trial like I am?  I'm sure it will be moved up from March, but I hope not too far.  This trial will not only answer some of our questions, but verify that LE really do have their act together.

Yes definitely looking forward to the trial.  I'm going to hit the sack now, have an early work day tomorrow.  Let's keep in touch, perhaps we can exchange emails through Klaas.

Good night!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 01:53:18 AM
Night Sparky.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 02:12:42 AM
Good evening, monkeys. Isn't it wonderful that all of those people made it off the plane safely? Thanks be to God.

I just wanted to drop a short comment about the latest tape released by the OCSO. I have only two words to say:

EVIL WITCH


Hi monkeys and my friend rmcalo

Been reading many pages of monkeyposts, and watching the awful video.  Still reading several pages back, but I wanted to say hi, and yes, I was moved very much by the "Miracle on the Hudson River" today.  Everyone survived.  Pilot is a hero in my book.  I was once in a plane crash, and this news today, and the images (wow) really did capture my attention... :smt103

The two words you used, EVIL and WITCH are spot on.  Pure unadulterated Evil.  That face, those lies, the rage and selfishness ---  welcome to Caylee's world.   :smt087  That "evil witch" was Caylee's mommy, poor little girl.  It hurts to think of the experiences Caylee likely had on this earth as the daughter of such a monster, and especially her last moments.

Having a bit of a rough time here,  :smt090 so I won't be posting much this evening.  Just reading and absorbing all the monkey thoughts and then I need to take a breather and get some rest for tomorrow.

I would like to add, just to make myself feel a little better, the following words to your two:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
vile    odious    despicable    revolting    hateful    ugly    appalling    diabolical    inhuman    heartless    vicious    coldblooded    cruel    selfish    sickening    shameless    unconscionable    murderer    bitch/y    freak of nature    narcissistic    sociopathic   

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And my take on some of the people involved in this tragic and heartbreaking murder case:


 :smt051    Caylee

 :salut:     OCSO

 :ncool:      Casey

 :shaking2:      Cindy

 :smt069 George

 :batman:      Lee

 :clown:      Baez


Thank you.  I feel a little better now.  Hugs to all monkeys.  Back to my reading.....

Desi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 02:12:59 AM
Oh, BARF! I just watched the entire video, and I so want to punch her in the face.....ABSOLUTELY!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 16, 2009, 02:16:27 AM
Oh, BARF! I just watched the entire video, and I so want to punch her in the face.....ABSOLUTELY!!!

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 02:20:48 AM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

LP arrived in OrLAWNdoe August 17.  He posted Casey's bond August 20.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 02:21:44 AM
Oh, BARF! I just watched the entire video, and I so want to punch her in the face.....ABSOLUTELY!!!
Did you have trouble getting the WFTV video to load?  I've finally caught up and went to watch the video at http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html but it won't load.  Does anyone have another link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 16, 2009, 02:22:15 AM
IMO - the video confirms to me that Cindy still believed Casey to some extent.  Were the pampering her to get info??  They should have hung up on here and walked out.  How dare she threaten to do so.  Nothing but the DP for her.  I hope they put it back on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 16, 2009, 02:22:57 AM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

LP arrived in OrLAWNdoe August 17.  He posted Casey's bond August 20.




True... but did you watch NG tonight?  LP said KC already knew on that day (8/14) that he was going to bail her.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 16, 2009, 02:24:09 AM
LP said on NG, that Casey knew she was going to be bailed out during that jail visit. ::MonkeyEek::

Then why the need for a "private" visit with George?

I didn't get the feeling that she thought she was getting out anytime soon but who knows.
I know, maybe she was just acting, because the jail visit was the 14th and LP bailed her out I believe the 15th.

LP arrived in OrLAWNdoe August 17.  He posted Casey's bond August 20.




True... but did you watch NG tonight?  LP said KC already knew on that day (8/14) that he was going to bail her.



oh duh -- I saw too late that norose had already posted this in the stack quote above.  sry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 02:24:57 AM
Casey felt that the month she spent in jail at that time was just unreasonable.  She wanted Cindy and George to get her out of there, now!  What a prima donna.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 02:26:19 AM
Darn, what's up with WFTV?  I can't get that video to load.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 02:26:58 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


Thank you Wyks!  Just put Vicks on the grocery list!

Hi, Leroy Sheroy!

When I read what you said, I thought, "No, Silly Leroy, you're supposed to put the Vicks on the soles of your feet, not on your grocery list!"
 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 02:34:54 AM
Ok - I watched the whole video and I have two comments on it (actually much more, but I'm going to limit it or I'll be here all night - again):

#1 - KC says she is concerned about her case (at this time she was not yet indicted for murder).  So, all she could think about is the case?  Meaning KC already knows there is only one end...  that she will be tried in court for this matter.  If she were telling the truth about any of this, there would have been a second possibility:  They find, arrest, and try Zanny and Caylee comes home.  Case closed, KC comes home.  KC knows that is an option, but an innocent person would always have that hope.

#2 - She's out of the loop.  She doesn't know anything.  She's been locked up for a whole month!  (Poor thing!)  She only gets the information that Baez gives her.  She shuts herself off from the media, so she doesn't have to listen to the reports of what a liar she is, etc. etc.  Why, then, does she not ask CA and GA to give her some info?  Why doesn't she want to know where they have progressed on anything?  What info has Lee learned?  What has the PI learned?  We know that she will not give up any information, because it will incriminate her.  But she also knows that any information discovered by the family that she would need to know (like, how much do the cops know, what have they released to the media, what have they learned on their own?) would also incriminate her.

It's just soooooooo obvious.  And for CA and GA, I haven't been a supporter of theirs by any means, BUT I feel sorry for them.  Everyone makes mistakes and some people make some pretty bad parents...  But no one wants to believe the worst in someone they know.  And KC is the worst imaginable.  Some parents do everything right and still have bad seeds.  Some parents are absolutely horrible, yet their children turn out to be some amazing people.  I can't imagine being in either of their shoes - not wanting to believe your own flesh and blood is an absolute monster and at the same time clinging to the tiniest bit of hope that maybe, just maybe, they will see Caylee again.

It's very easy for us to watch and say they are in denial from afar.  And this denial sounds like such a horrible thing.  But they are grieving a few things right now.  They are grieving the loss of their precious granddaughter.  They are grieving the loss of their daughter (because she is no longer the daughter they knew - she's a monster).  They are also grieving the loss of their family unit/normalcy/lifestyle etc.  Nothing will ever be the same for them again. 

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Shell on January 16, 2009, 02:35:03 AM
Darn, what's up with WFTV?  I can't get that video to load.

Casey Anthony "Lost" Jail Visitation Video---Go to youtube.com and do a search. It comes up in 4 parts.

WFTV would not load for me either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Shell on January 16, 2009, 02:36:17 AM
Darn, what's up with WFTV?  I can't get that video to load.

Casey Anthony "Lost" Jail Visitation Video---Go to youtube.com and do a search. It comes up in 4 parts.

WFTV would not load for me either.


Link : http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22Lost%22+Jail+Visitation+Video&search_type=&aq=f


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 02:40:37 AM
About the time she started saying how she needed to be seen as a victim "just like you guys" (what about your "kdnapped" 2 yr. old daghter?), and when she was told about the birthday gifts brought for Caylee and her response was "Gee, I'm glad that you all have that kind of support", I wanted to just choke her! ANY Mother that loved her missing child would have broken down over the thought of her daughter without her family on her birthday! Casey just s-m-o-o-t-h-e-d her way into making Cindy and George feel guilty because SHE didn't have any support.

And "picking Dad" was for one reason and one reason only. Casey said that Lee was like an interrogator, Cindy tried to tiptoe, but she's about as subtle as a dump truck, and she continued to ask about CAYLEE!! Can't have that, so she picks Dad, who is much easier to manipulate and more gullible.

Oh, I hate that bitch, and I cannot imagine what she put Caylee through. I want her to fry!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 02:42:38 AM
I just watched it; let me see from where.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 02:46:37 AM
Try this. It worked for me. On the page, just click:

VIDEO: Anthony jail visit released

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=77087CAEB333F567C81ECB63706DC3DB?contentId=8258540&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: canadagirl on January 16, 2009, 02:46:50 AM
Darn, what's up with WFTV?  I can't get that video to load.

Casey Anthony "Lost" Jail Visitation Video---Go to youtube.com and do a search. It comes up in 4 parts.

WFTV would not load for me either.






Link : http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22Lost%22+Jail+Visitation+Video&search_type=&aq=f



Hi....Here's another - all in one!!!

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8003104&version=1&locale=EN-US


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 02:49:02 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

Thank you, SeeMe.....
 :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 02:50:06 AM
Ah, got it to work.  I'm listening now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PJ on January 16, 2009, 02:52:13 AM
Just think if that was a "cot" on Casey's back - we could call her              WHAT GANG?????    Yeah, COT MOM!!!!!!!!


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
PJ (Paula) :flower:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 02:53:06 AM
Ah, it's pretty clear that Cindy and George don't trust Jose.  They don't think he has been honest with Casey about her "situation."  I don't think he has been honest with her, either.  He's using her to promote himself.  Any good lawyer would have advised her to plea this case.  He's going to take her all the way to a life sentence without parole, or even the death penalty if its available.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 02:53:55 AM
Ah, got it to work.  I'm listening now.

Hope you brought some nails to chew on as a snack. When it's over, you'll be spitting them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PJ on January 16, 2009, 02:56:54 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".


God Bless You Sweet "SeeMeAtTheBeach"!!!!!!!

PJ (Paula) :flower:



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 02:57:44 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


Thank you Wyks!  Just put Vicks on the grocery list!

Hi, Leroy Sheroy!

When I read what you said, I thought, "No, Silly Leroy, you're supposed to put the Vicks on the soles of your feet, not on your grocery list!"
 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 
But see, if one plastered the Vicks onto the grocery list then affixed said grocery list to ones chest/neck/tootsies, by golly it'd work I think.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 03:00:19 AM
What does she mean, "I haven't wanted the Zanny thing.  I never wanted the Zanny thing..."?  What is that all about?  She made it up, so why's she trying to make it sound like she didn't want to say that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 03:01:40 AM
SeeMe, Thank you for taking us all with you today. {{HUGS}}


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
Good evening, monkeys. Isn't it wonderful that all of those people made it off the plane safely? Thanks be to God.

I just wanted to drop a short comment about the latest tape released by the OCSO. I have only two words to say:

EVIL WITCH


Hi monkeys and my friend rmcalo

Been reading many pages of monkeyposts, and watching the awful video.  Still reading several pages back, but I wanted to say hi, and yes, I was moved very much by the "Miracle on the Hudson River" today.  Everyone survived.  Pilot is a hero in my book.  I was once in a plane crash, and this news today, and the images (wow) really did capture my attention... :smt103

The two words you used, EVIL and WITCH are spot on.  Pure unadulterated Evil.  That face, those lies, the rage and selfishness ---  welcome to Caylee's world.   :smt087  That "evil witch" was Caylee's mommy, poor little girl.  It hurts to think of the experiences Caylee likely had on this earth as the daughter of such a monster, and especially her last moments.

Having a bit of a rough time here,  :smt090 so I won't be posting much this evening.  Just reading and absorbing all the monkey thoughts and then I need to take a breather and get some rest for tomorrow.

I would like to add, just to make myself feel a little better, the following words to your two:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
vile    odious    despicable    revolting    hateful    ugly    appalling    diabolical    inhuman    heartless    vicious    coldblooded    cruel    selfish    sickening    shameless    unconscionable    murderer    bitch/y    freak of nature    narcissistic    sociopathic   

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And my take on some of the people involved in this tragic and heartbreaking murder case:


 :smt051    Caylee

 :salut:     OCSO

 :ncool:      Casey

 :shaking2:      Cindy

 :smt069 George

 :batman:      Lee

 :clown:      Baez


Thank you.  I feel a little better now.  Hugs to all monkeys.  Back to my reading.....

Desi


I love how you summed everyone up perfectly with a little icon.  Very funny (and accurate!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 03:06:02 AM
I hope we get a transcript of this conversation.  There are some strange comments here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 03:08:17 AM
It seems very obvious to me that George and Cindy don't think Baez is being honest and forthright with Casey.  They seem to think he has not communicated to her how really serious the case is.  Casey has gone all in with Baez, and I do think the Anthony's think her faith is misplaced.  This is probably the one thing I agree with the Anthony's about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 03:08:53 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".



What Miss Paula said.  Thank you, thank you...your post has brought me a bit of peace.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 03:17:33 AM
Ok - I watched the whole video and I have two comments on it (actually much more, but I'm going to limit it or I'll be here all night - again):

#1 - KC says she is concerned about her case (at this time she was not yet indicted for murder).  So, all she could think about is the case?  Meaning KC already knows there is only one end...  that she will be tried in court for this matter.  If she were telling the truth about any of this, there would have been a second possibility:  They find, arrest, and try Zanny and Caylee comes home.  Case closed, KC comes home.  KC knows that is an option, but an innocent person would always have that hope.

#2 - She's out of the loop.  She doesn't know anything.  She's been locked up for a whole month!  (Poor thing!)  She only gets the information that Baez gives her.  She shuts herself off from the media, so she doesn't have to listen to the reports of what a liar she is, etc. etc.  Why, then, does she not ask CA and GA to give her some info?  Why doesn't she want to know where they have progressed on anything?  What info has Lee learned?  What has the PI learned?  We know that she will not give up any information, because it will incriminate her.  But she also knows that any information discovered by the family that she would need to know (like, how much do the cops know, what have they released to the media, what have they learned on their own?) would also incriminate her.

It's just soooooooo obvious.  And for CA and GA, I haven't been a supporter of theirs by any means, BUT I feel sorry for them.  Everyone makes mistakes and some people make some pretty bad parents...  But no one wants to believe the worst in someone they know.  And KC is the worst imaginable.  Some parents do everything right and still have bad seeds.  Some parents are absolutely horrible, yet their children turn out to be some amazing people.  I can't imagine being in either of their shoes - not wanting to believe your own flesh and blood is an absolute monster and at the same time clinging to the tiniest bit of hope that maybe, just maybe, they will see Caylee again.

It's very easy for us to watch and say they are in denial from afar.  And this denial sounds like such a horrible thing.  But they are grieving a few things right now.  They are grieving the loss of their precious granddaughter.  They are grieving the loss of their daughter (because she is no longer the daughter they knew - she's a monster).  They are also grieving the loss of their family unit/normalcy/lifestyle etc.  Nothing will ever be the same for them again. 

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.



Yeah, re. the grandparents (esp. Cindy) I said something like you have written earlier...though I'm still suspicious of the grandfather's role in all this (though I'm not suggesting he had anything to do with Caylee's death. [/b]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 03:18:51 AM
From her comments, I think Casey believes the conspiracy story she has fabricated because Jose has convinced her that he believes it.  It's like the two of them think they are fending off the world and the "bad guys" who took Caylee.  My guess is that Jose doesn't want Casey to tell him the truth even though he knows she killed Caylee.  If Casey doesn't tell him, then he can continue all the way through the trial to spin this conspiracy story as her defense.  As an attorney, he stands to gain from the media attention no matter how the trial ends. 

However, I don't think he has honestly told Casey the probability of her conspiracy theory being accepted by a jury is slim to none.  He's encouraged Casey to put all her trust in him and talk to no one else.  Big mistake because she has a warped view of her chances of success with this story.  It's not going to fly, but I think Jose has convinced her it will.  The world knows she's going down for this murder, but Casey believes Jose and thinks her story will be believed and she'll be set free.  Casey is going to be shocked when she's found guilty.  Totally, completely shocked.  She'll be the only one, though.  Even George and Cindy know what happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: AZLady on January 16, 2009, 03:23:05 AM
Night, all.  Sleep tight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 03:25:59 AM
I agree w/rmcalo who said this vid alone would be enough to convince most people that Casey killed Caylee. Chilling.  It made me literally sick(nauseous) and I had to just sit and breathe and recover for a bit after watching it.  Can't think of a single way JB will be able to spin this one.... She shows ZERO concern for Caylee, ZERO concern for her family that she has destroyed, and nothing but contempt and disdain for dedicated investigators and the general public who care very much about Caylee and what has become of her.  Oh, just so SICK SICK SICK.  I found it quite upsetting, actually.

A major motive in this murder will most likely be revealed to have been JEALOUSY.  Casey is jealous of her friends who are not saddled with a "snothead."  She is jealous of Jesse loving Caylee as much as/more than he loved her.  She is jealous of Caylee's natural ability to charm people and make them love her -- when conniving Casey has to work so hard to manipulate and charm others.  She is jealous of Cindy's apparent preference and love for Caylee over her.  And -- I think this is important -- she is jealous that Caylee preferred Cindy, too, rather than her own mother.  I even wonder if Casey's lethal rage might have been triggered by Caylee crying for Cindy after Casey took her away.   "Maybe I'm a just a spiteful bitch."  Sure does appear that way, doesn't it?

I'm ready for a doc dump -- I want some more reassurance from OCSO about all the strong evidence I know they must have stockpiled like a mountain against Caylee's monster mommy and anyone who has aided and abetted her in her crime.  And I just want to KNOW what they have discovered and confirmed.  Tell me more, tell me more...

= = = = = = = = = = = =

Being here with the late-niters, and reading what the day-timers had to say about the latest developments, helps me to feel I'm not alone in my anguish about what happened to Caylee, my horror of the evil that is Casey, my confusion and anxiety about the twists and turns in this case, and my hope for justice to prevail.  Monkeys are great.

Work in the morning, it's good to see you all and hope to talk to you soon.
Goodnight sweet monkeys, and God bless our Caylee...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 03:30:21 AM
Ok - I watched the whole video and I have two comments on it (actually much more, but I'm going to limit it or I'll be here all night - again):

#1 - KC says she is concerned about her case (at this time she was not yet indicted for murder).  So, all she could think about is the case?  Meaning KC already knows there is only one end...  that she will be tried in court for this matter.  If she were telling the truth about any of this, there would have been a second possibility:  They find, arrest, and try Zanny and Caylee comes home.  Case closed, KC comes home.  KC knows that is an option, but an innocent person would always have that hope.

#2 - She's out of the loop.  She doesn't know anything.  She's been locked up for a whole month!  (Poor thing!)  She only gets the information that Baez gives her.  She shuts herself off from the media, so she doesn't have to listen to the reports of what a liar she is, etc. etc.  Why, then, does she not ask CA and GA to give her some info?  Why doesn't she want to know where they have progressed on anything?  What info has Lee learned?  What has the PI learned?  We know that she will not give up any information, because it will incriminate her.  But she also knows that any information discovered by the family that she would need to know (like, how much do the cops know, what have they released to the media, what have they learned on their own?) would also incriminate her.

It's just soooooooo obvious.  And for CA and GA, I haven't been a supporter of theirs by any means, BUT I feel sorry for them.  Everyone makes mistakes and some people make some pretty bad parents...  But no one wants to believe the worst in someone they know.  And KC is the worst imaginable.  Some parents do everything right and still have bad seeds.  Some parents are absolutely horrible, yet their children turn out to be some amazing people.  I can't imagine being in either of their shoes - not wanting to believe your own flesh and blood is an absolute monster and at the same time clinging to the tiniest bit of hope that maybe, just maybe, they will see Caylee again.

It's very easy for us to watch and say they are in denial from afar.  And this denial sounds like such a horrible thing.  But they are grieving a few things right now.  They are grieving the loss of their precious granddaughter.  They are grieving the loss of their daughter (because she is no longer the daughter they knew - she's a monster).  They are also grieving the loss of their family unit/normalcy/lifestyle etc.  Nothing will ever be the same for them again. 

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.



Yeah, re. the grandparents (esp. Cindy) I said something like you have written earlier...though I'm still suspicious of the grandfather's role in all this (though I'm not suggesting he had anything to do with Caylee's death. [/b]

Yeah, even if CA and GA have specific info on what happened to Caylee, they can still be in denial.  People can witness a loved one pass away and logically know that person is gone, yet still go through denial and expect them to walk through the door any minute.  It's a mechanism we use to deal with grief, regardless of what happened.  (People grieve the loss of relationships, a limb, and a variety of things through these same stages.)  It's sad and we wish they would snap out of it and tell everyone what they know about what happened, but snapping out of it just isn't an option for them emotionally, I think.  Although, with their being out of the media lately, hopefully they have moved past the denial that KC did this and are angry with her.  As for the loss of Caylee, who knows where they are?  I know we speculate on a million reasons they haven't had a funeral for her yet...  But having that funeral would mean admitting that Caylee is gone forever and I think it's possible they aren't ready to do that.  For all we know, they could be hoping the 2nd autopsy proves it's some other little girl and not their Caylee.  The brain is a weird, weird thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 03:57:56 AM
I agree w/rmcalo who said this vid alone would be enough to convince most people that Casey killed Caylee. Chilling.  It made me literally sick(nauseous) and I had to just sit and breathe and recover for a bit after watching it.  Can't think of a single way JB will be able to spin this one.... She shows ZERO concern for Caylee, ZERO concern for her family that she has destroyed, and nothing but contempt and disdain for dedicated investigators and the general public who care very much about Caylee and what has become of her.  Oh, just so SICK SICK SICK.  I found it quite upsetting, actually.

A major motive in this murder will most likely be revealed to have been JEALOUSY.  Casey is jealous of her friends who are not saddled with a "snothead."  She is jealous of Jesse loving Caylee as much as/more than he loved her.  She is jealous of Caylee's natural ability to charm people and make them love her -- when conniving Casey has to work so hard to manipulate and charm others.  She is jealous of Cindy's apparent preference and love for Caylee over her.  And -- I think this is important -- she is jealous that Caylee preferred Cindy, too, rather than her own mother.  I even wonder if Casey's lethal rage might have been triggered by Caylee crying for Cindy after Casey took her away.   "Maybe I'm a just a spiteful bitch."  Sure does appear that way, doesn't it?

I'm ready for a doc dump -- I want some more reassurance from OCSO about all the strong evidence I know they must have stockpiled like a mountain against Caylee's monster mommy and anyone who has aided and abetted her in her crime.  And I just want to KNOW what they have discovered and confirmed.  Tell me more, tell me more...

= = = = = = = = = = = =

Being here with the late-niters, and reading what the day-timers had to say about the latest developments, helps me to feel I'm not alone in my anguish about what happened to Caylee, my horror of the evil that is Casey, my confusion and anxiety about the twists and turns in this case, and my hope for justice to prevail.  Monkeys are great.

Work in the morning, it's good to see you all and hope to talk to you soon.
Goodnight sweet monkeys, and God bless our Caylee...


Oh my, just saw some clips on tv of this latest video.  Call me crazy, but every time Cindy wiped her crying eyes, Casey mimiced her mother by wiping her own eye(s).  That was quite striking to me.  Of course if it'd been me doing time, I would have tried to comfort my mom and been crying too I'm sure...but aping my mom's gestures?  Hmm...not so much.  What a freakin' chameleon the alleged perp seems to be.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: blurrymonkey on January 16, 2009, 05:12:20 AM
Well I finally got to watch it...Cindy was a mess.I couldn't help but to feel her desperation.Don't throw nanners at me please.George and all his analagies make me sick.He talks more nonsense then Elmer Fudd...No hard questions because they were so intimidated by her.It's been my opinion all along that they walked around on egg shells when Casey was around because they know the wrath of her anger and have probably dealt with it her whole life.The sad thing for me is imagining little Caylee with her the last moments of her life.I hope more than anything that Caylee was put to sleep and not terrorized by the person she called mom.There will be a special place for Caylee in Heaven and unless KC repents,there will be a special place in hell for her..God comforts no one that does not belong to Him so there you go.Hide your head under the covers and cry KC because no one here really cares.Finally I got mad because she called me ignorant and said I needed to get a life.I bet you she would trade hers for mine in a New York minute!! God it's all just sooooooooo sad...Rest in peace baby girl because justice is going to be served...

Hey Tater, I'm just reading up during my nightly wakely session.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Now may follow up when/if I get caught up tomorrow, b/c I don't understand a comment.

Lovinlife, thanks for your sweet comment on the last thread.  Nice to see you, though way late.  Hugs to all monkeys; enjoy your morning coffee, which I will be reading about probably during lunchtime (coupla time zones back + recuperative sleep = slacker/late poster)         


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 16, 2009, 05:12:45 AM
I wanted to bring this over here from Guideposts:

Quote
Yes, it was.  Just a short timeline of what was happening during this video timeframe...
8/8/08 – Casey refuses to see her brother when he arrives for a previously scheduled jail visit
8/8/08 Baez also launched a new appeal to spring Casey Anthony out of jail.
8/8/08 Divers Search Ponds Near Home of Missing
8/8/08 George Anthony Lashes Out At Media later apologizes
8/8/08 Private Investigator Dominic Casey visits Casey Anthony in jail.

8/9/08  – Caylee Anthony's third birthday

8/10/08 – Casey declines a scheduled visitation with her parents
8/10/08 “she will get the mother of the year award for what she’s done for Caylee” in Greta interview.

8/11/08 - Casey denies visit with parents
8/11/08  Gail St. John, psychic, was shooting her "blind drive"
8/11/08 Roy Krunk called LE 4:28pm saying there was a bag along side of the road.

8/12/08 - George Anthony claims he is being watched,
8/12/08 Roy Krunk called LE
8/12/08  LE held searches in woods near Anthony home Mon & Tues Aug 12, no leads found.

8/13/08 Roy Krunk called LE

8/14/08 - Investigators source says Caylee is dead
8/14/08 George Anthony lashes out on way to see Casey
8/14/08 Casey visits with parents and Cindy is seen crying after the meeting.

8/15/08- Bounty Hunter comes forward and will post bond to get Casey out of jail
8/15/08  AUG 15th-A det with orange co. sheriff's dept tells fox news that all future jail visits will be withheld "DUE TO A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE EXEMPTION"
8/15/08 Tropical Storm Faye hit Orlando on August 15, 2008

8/16/08  - Casey denies visit with brother saying it was under the advisement of her lawyers.

And add these few:

August 12 – George Anthony tells the media he is certain that Caylee was kidnapped.

August 14 – Casey accepts a visit from her parents.

August 16 – The Anthony family appoints Larry Garrison, president of production company SilverCreek Entertainment, as their official spokesperson..

August 17 – Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman from Sacramento, California, arrives in Orlando after making arraignments to pay Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail. Padilla tells the media he has been following the case closely and is convinced that Caylee will not be found as long as Casey Anthony is behind bars.

I like being able to put things in perspective this way. Thanks, Guideposts.

This is great!Thanks Guidepost and Brandi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 06:08:46 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


That would be me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad you gave it a try!!Thanks for being  brave enough to try it!! Just awesome!!Now I will send back an email to the original sender and let her know it really does work!!!Hope you are at 100 percent soon..Hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: suzyinpgh on January 16, 2009, 06:23:20 AM
I just watched the video from 8-14.   All I can say is G & C have been too easy on her.  They should have been yelling at her to tell the truth for once in her life.  They shouldn't have been thanking her for seeing them.  They should have quit kissing her a$$ like she's doing them some big favor.  They should of told her she's a selfish biotch.  I could go on and on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 06:56:27 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

That's really nice of you.   Thanks!

Good morning everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 07:03:25 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

That's really nice of you.   Thanks!

Good morning everyone!

I agree!!! Good morning Sassy!! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:05:14 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

That's really nice of you.   Thanks!

Good morning everyone!

I agree!!! Good morning Sassy!! :)

Good Morning Tater!   Its quiet in here, isn't it?      How come Quiet Monkey hasn't served any coffee yet??     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:11:10 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:14:56 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".

That's really nice of you.   Thanks!

Good morning everyone!

I agree!!! Good morning Sassy!! :)

Good Morning Tater!   Its quiet in here, isn't it?      How come Quiet Monkey hasn't served any coffee yet??     ::MonkeyTongue::

Hi Sassy I'm here, see my post above, donuts today too!!
I have yet to see this video. Right when it was released yesterday I had to run out, then just got busy the rest of the day. Now when I go to wftv, the video doesn't play. I've checked every other website and they don't have a link to the video, I even tried YouTube but can't find that one. Can any monkey help me out??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:17:37 AM
You monkeys have a lot of good insights re the lost jail visit video.

The only thing I can add is that now we know why Baez doesn't want Casey to have visitors.   Its so obvious that Casey only cares about Casey.   That video alone should hang her!   I couldn't sleep last night, thinking about it - which is why I'm in this cage so early this morning looking for some of that Tim coffee that QM serves !!!!!   

JSM and Leroy - read your posts from last night.   You guys are a hoot.   Had me LMAO !!!

About Casey teeth - I would bet Cindy paid to have her teeth fixed - and the charges are probably on her charge card.  Cindy even mentioned the smile thing to the FBI agent in that video - does anyone remember?   She either got crowns on the two front teeth - or had to have some orthodonic work redone (I bet Casey wore braces in Jr HS - and didn't wear her retainer so her two front teeth crossed over each other).    Either way, I'm sure Mommy picked up the bill. 

I feel a big doc dump coming - maybe today -  its a three day weekend!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:19:08 AM
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YAY!   ::MonkeyDance::    Thanks QM !!     
By the way - I love your SM Banner you made yesterday!        ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lucinda on January 16, 2009, 07:19:13 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 07:24:16 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww..No worries!!! I love ya no matter what!!! Glad you are feeling better!:)Big Hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:26:11 AM

Here you go Sassy and all the Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance:: Thanks for the comment on the banner, I'm glad you liked it! Now, enjoy some of this awesome TH coffee, it's hot and fresh!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:26:19 AM
It took me a while to find it - here is the video of the jail visit.   This is part 1 - but there is a total of 4 parts - and should all be listed to the right of the screen when you open the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:27:24 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 07:28:48 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS

Good morning!!!! Nice to see ya!!! ::MonkeyDance:: Gotta run my monkey friends..See ya later today!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:29:04 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.

Hugs Lucinda!     ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:30:00 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.

(((MONKEY HUGS))) Lucinda! I understand, I've felt ignored before. It just happens sometimes, and I tend to be a sensitive monkey so that doesn't help. But, I know I'm not being ignored, it just gets crazy in the cage sometimes! Glad you feel better today!

::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 07:30:03 AM

Here you go Sassy and all the Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance:: Thanks for the comment on the banner, I'm glad you liked it! Now, enjoy some of this awesome TH coffee, it's hot and fresh!

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Good morning!!! Thanks for the coffee even though I only drink green tea,lol...Have a blessed day for sure!!!! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:30:48 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS
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Morning Trimm.    Cold here this morning in Maryland -   16 degrees!    Brrrrr.   But, QM made coffee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:30:58 AM
It took me a while to find it - here is the video of the jail visit.   This is part 1 - but there is a total of 4 parts - and should all be listed to the right of the screen when you open the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page



Gonna go watch it, thanks Sassy!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lucinda on January 16, 2009, 07:34:35 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:34:36 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.


Hey Lucinda,Good to see you this morning.I hope you're feeling better today.I could use some of your warm weather this morning.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lucinda on January 16, 2009, 07:36:35 AM
morning monkeys, an OT, but an apology for my big spit the other morning.  I posted in musings and the lounge, but wanted to add in here too.  Noone makes me feel ignored.  I love this group, and altho i cant keep up half the time, you all give me all the info I need on this case.  Being in Australia, I dont get the media reports, but I can come in here, read up the info, and have made some great friends.  Just wanted to apologise, and thats why Im OT.  Depression gets the better of me at times, and Im sorry it reflected in my posts the other morning.  Love you all.


Hey Lucinda,Good to see you this morning.I hope you're feeling better today.I could use some of your warm weather this morning.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


you would hate this heat, trust me. Bushfire weather.  We are fortunate for a sea breeze tonight, but its awful heat, not enjoyable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:37:24 AM
It took me a while to find it - here is the video of the jail visit.   This is part 1 - but there is a total of 4 parts - and should all be listed to the right of the screen when you open the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page



Gonna go watch it, thanks Sassy!!  ::MonkeyDance::

OK.  While you're busy watching the video - I'm going to steal the box of kitties you left with the coffee!    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:38:00 AM
I have to go back and catch up ... but wanted to say ...

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:40:26 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


That would be me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad you gave it a try!!Thanks for being  brave enough to try it!! Just awesome!!Now I will send back an email to the original sender and let her know it really does work!!!Hope you are at 100 percent soon..Hugs

It also helps when you ELEVATE your head.  With a couple of pillows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:45:49 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS

Good morning!!!! Nice to see ya!!! ::MonkeyDance:: Gotta run my monkey friends..See ya later today!!!


See you later tater.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:47:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS
[/quote

Morning Trimm.    Cold here this morning in Maryland -   16 degrees!    Brrrrr.   But, QM made coffee!



Brr is right.  12 degrees here. That  **** just ain't right.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 16, 2009, 07:49:30 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good morning my friend.  No apologies necessary.  I found what you have done fascinating.  Good morning to all monkeys.  I hope all is well with everyone.  I posted in the prayer requests a thank you to all that prayed for Pooky but wanted to say it here as well in the event you did not see it.  She is doing very well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:50:19 AM

Here you go Sassy and all the Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance:: Thanks for the comment on the banner, I'm glad you liked it! Now, enjoy some of this awesome TH coffee, it's hot and fresh!

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Thanks for the COFFEE Quie Monkey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:51:49 AM
Sorry I misspelled you name Quietmonkey.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:52:22 AM

Here you go Sassy and all the Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance:: Thanks for the comment on the banner, I'm glad you liked it! Now, enjoy some of this awesome TH coffee, it's hot and fresh!

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/mommishka/1.gif)

Thanks QM. I went to fill up my coffee pot...  thought the coffee was ready, then realized I never put water in.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:53:18 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:53:48 AM
joesamas mama - are you from the Czech Republic? I think I read you saying that Joe could understand some words in Czech?  (My dad's mother's side is from that part of the world).


Morning monkey friends :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:54:03 AM
I have to go back and catch up ... but wanted to say ...

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!


Me too.  Hey Newfie.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 07:54:59 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hope everybody is diong well this morning. Ten pages behind.BBS
[/quote

Morning Trimm.    Cold here this morning in Maryland -   16 degrees!    Brrrrr.   But, QM made coffee!



Brr is right.  12 degrees here. That  **** just ain't right.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::    We might get snow on Sunday -  I hope we do!    And, Monday is a holiday so my hubby doesn't have to work!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:57:16 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


That would be me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad you gave it a try!!Thanks for being  brave enough to try it!! Just awesome!!Now I will send back an email to the original sender and let her know it really does work!!!Hope you are at 100 percent soon..Hugs

It also helps when you ELEVATE your head.  With a couple of pillows.


Morning Gramamonkey. Very good advice about the pillows.Be sure to get some of Quietmonkey's coffe. She's probably already had enough.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
All the schools in central OH are closed today. It's just too dang cold out.  Currently, it's -10, and we're supposedly going to hit a high of 6.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scarrlett on January 16, 2009, 07:58:13 AM
Thanks for the good news PookyBear!! Thats a big relief.

Good Morning Trimm and the rest of the swinging gang.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:58:55 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::
-9 in IN ... up to a balmy 20 tomorrow!  I hear Alaska is in the 40s!  Road Trip!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:59:26 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::

Hey Boo.  ::MonkeyDance:: Stay warm. See you this evening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:59:55 AM
Ok, still listening, I'm 6 mins in. First KC says she doesn't know anything she's been in jail a month, she's out of loop so "how can she help",  something like that. A few mins later she just said "Jose is making sure that I'm well aware of everything that is going on, he's keeping me completely updated on stuff which I appreciate cause that's all I have to go off of". G&C were just trying to get her to tell them something, anything. Uh-oh! KC's upset now, she's really upset!! Oh Please, it's like "don't upset KC"!! Now she says she's "not in control because she doesn't know what's going on". Which is it KC, thought JB was keeping you "completely updated"!! Now she says HER life has "been completely taken from her". Hello KC, what about Caylee's life!!!!!! You're still alive KC!!

I'm watching this thinking this was just days before LP came in and got her out of jail. Watching this now makes me think what might have happened had he left her in? She may have broken down (probably not), but just thinking how she did get "emotional", yeah for herself, but she was pi$$ed they wanted information! I think if she were ever to get pushed enough, she'd crack and spit it out. Not because she wanted to, but because she couldn't help it. Maybe she did when she got home, but then why did G & C after this decide to vehemently (sorry spelling) profess her innocence and insist Caylee is alive?? Is this where CA lost her last bit of sanity about this?? I dunno. George talks to her like she's a little girl, or his girlfriend, not sure which. It's almost like he doesn't really know how to talk to her, so he's just overly nice and doesn't realize how "sick" it comes across! Ok, I haven't finished part 1 because I'm writing this, but I couldn't help posting this as I'm thinking it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 08:01:33 AM
Hey Boo!! Why dont you come down here to SC!! We will lay out in the sun!! It is 16 here!! I am taking the kids to school in my bathing suit..... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 08:02:42 AM
Good Morning Scarlett and Anothermonkey.  ::MonkeyDance::
Going back to catch up now.



Monkeys Rock


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:02:42 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  Trying to catch up, but alas, I am too far behind.

Can someone link me to the uncut versions of the latest jailhouse interview?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scarrlett on January 16, 2009, 08:04:17 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 08:04:54 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  Trying to catch up, but alas, I am too far behind.

Can someone link me to the uncut versions of the latest jailhouse interview?


Good Morning Steelmonkey.  ::MonkeyDance::
http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 16, 2009, 08:04:55 AM
Thanks for the good news PookyBear!! Thats a big relief.

Good Morning Trimm and the rest of the swinging gang.

Good morning Scarlett -- I have been looking for you.  Are you doing okay this cold morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:06:58 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  Trying to catch up, but alas, I am too far behind.

Can someone link me to the uncut versions of the latest jailhouse interview?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page


You can see the video here - this is part 1 (parts 2-4 are located to the right of the video)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:08:54 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Eating it?  ::MonkeyShocked:: Gross!! My brother-in-law swears by the foot thing, though.  I guess it works for him. I've never tried it..  Just for $hits and giggles, I'll have to do it next time I get sick.  ::MonkeyWink::


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Morning Trimm!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:10:48 AM
Just when you thought you couldn't hate Casey more.....there's a video!  ::MonkeyShocked:: I just got through with the last thread and this has probably been discussed to death but I have to vent:

1. MANIPULATION: WORD OF THE DAY.  Wow, Her best quality!

2. NARCISSISM:   You don't have to be a psychologist to figure that one out. Just a few quotes:  "It's really, really sad that I have nothing right now, nothing". "Do you really understand how I feel"?  "My entire life has been taken from me". "Everything has been taken away from me".  "With keeping me here you are not helping me. The opportunity was there".
"Iforgive whoever has her".  Casey naracissic way of forgiving herself!

3."All I want is my kid "life" back".

4. BIBLE QUOTE FROM CASEY: GMAB

"LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"          "GIVE UNTO OTHERS"

5. GEORGE IS STUPID:  "You are the Boss".  Just like a corporation....another dumb analogy like the hand thing...I'm the thumb...Does he really think that she wanted to see him because she loves him....She didn't want to see mom because she would dominate ask questions and she didn't want to see Lee because he would "interrogate" her...she just knows George will say Honey this and Honey that and never try to make her give up anything.  Then he actually say that he is "Thankful" that she would see them.  OMG, she should be thankful that they came to see her. This is so screwed up!  ::MonkeyConfused::

6. BODY LANGUAGE: Love to see a report on that.  To me she looks totally guilty! She looks down all the time.  When Cindy was talking about the rumor that Caylee died in the pool she looked to the left (shows deception or lie) and had no emotion yet she was mad because her mom made chili and she wasn't there!

7.  Anytime she talked about Caylee (once or twice) Casey was matter of fact, "I want my Kid back", "I know you'll want Caylee back", but when it was about her it was poor me and the tears!  She even asked in the very beginning why Cindy was crying (she is one cold b!tch)!  Why in the hell do you think she is crying Casey?  She is so wrapped up in herself that nothing or noone else matters!  When she looked at the new T-shirt she calmly states "They are nice, I like them" like she was looking at a new bath mat and shower curtain!!....for goodness sakes Casey that is your daughter on that shirt!!!! I would be crying my eyes out.
Ok, I'll stop ranting now, just a few things from the other thread.

Nikki, hope you feel better soon!

SS, My FIL just started radiation this week for the same thing.  I'll    keep yours in my prayers as well!

Peanut and JAA and all other new monkeys I missed WELCOME!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

kLAAS, Great image shots from the jail visit...The real Casey!

GM, Great Banner!!

Excellent post Dottie!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 16, 2009, 08:13:03 AM
Ok, still listening, I'm 6 mins in. First KC says she doesn't know anything she's been in jail a month, she's out of loop so "how can she help",  something like that. A few mins later she just said "Jose is making sure that I'm well aware of everything that is going on, he's keeping me completely updated on stuff which I appreciate cause that's all I have to go off of". G&C were just trying to get her to tell them something, anything. Uh-oh! KC's upset now, she's really upset!! Oh Please, it's like "don't upset KC"!! Now she says she's "not in control because she doesn't know what's going on". Which is it KC, thought JB was keeping you "completely updated"!! Now she says HER life has "been completely taken from her". Hello KC, what about Caylee's life!!!!!! You're still alive KC!!

I'm watching this thinking this was just days before LP came in and got her out of jail. Watching this now makes me think what might have happened had he left her in? She may have broken down (probably not), but just thinking how she did get "emotional", yeah for herself, but she was pi$$ed they wanted information! I think if she were ever to get pushed enough, she'd crack and spit it out. Not because she wanted to, but because she couldn't help it. Maybe she did when she got home, but then why did G & C after this decide to vehemently (sorry spelling) profess her innocence and insist Caylee is alive?? Is this where CA lost her last bit of sanity about this?? I dunno. George talks to her like she's a little girl, or his girlfriend, not sure which. It's almost like he doesn't really know how to talk to her, so he's just overly nice and doesn't realize how "sick" it comes across! Ok, I haven't finished part 1 because I'm writing this, but I couldn't help posting this as I'm thinking it!!


I personally think that the whole family has walked on eggshells so long with her that they know no other way to talk with her.  They need information from her and will do what they need to do to get it.  Maybe they have learned from experience that confrontation with her will not get what they need.  George is especially vulnerable to this because he had been estranged from KC because of the separation he had from Cindy.  KC was angry at him for putting Cindy in a financial bind, but she did the same thing to her.  She appears to be unstable mentally, and they may not know what she has but know what can set her off and have taken steps to tiptoe around her for some time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scarrlett on January 16, 2009, 08:15:21 AM
Thanks for the good news PookyBear!! Thats a big relief.

Good Morning Trimm and the rest of the swinging gang.

Good morning Scarlett -- I have been looking for you.  Are you doing okay this cold morning?

I am doing okay and staying warm. I am very grateful that I am. It is about -2F but it is still in the Catskills so it is easier to take. A lot easier than those jail house tapes.

They really are afraid to upset her for fear of what she might do or say. George is right. Casey is the boss in that family. Just their little sweetheart. So gorgeous and all. When they listen to this; how is it they don't see how awful this looks and sounds. Cindy IS all about appearances??

Hey Lucinda...I like your new look. I will try to send you some of that Artic chill I have going on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:16:11 AM
OMG!! She said she can only focus on HER case from jail, she said she CAN'T focus on Caylee (when CA said Caylee should be her focus) from in jail because she doesn't have access to the internet, she can't make phone calls, she can't go anywhere!! She says she told them everything they can do, and CA says she did, & KC said "I'm sorry that's all I can do from the only knowledge that I have". Ok still listening to tape 2. Poor baby KC is soo upset, she can't swallow it hurts!!!!!!!!!! She has nothing!! Ugggghhhhhhh. How G & C support her after this???? (http://th132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/spider_goo/smilies/th_madm.gif)

Now she's pi$$ed at them for not getting her out of there!!!!!! She's soooo hurt by everything that is being said. There still tiptoeing around her, because they she's already so upset. This is so rediculous!! KC has no body but herself & her attorney. She barely says Caylee's name!! Uggghhhh, I don't know how much more I can listen to???????? She's so worried what people think about her and what's being reported in the media. They're hardly talking about Caylee and how to find her, it's all about KC and what she's going through!! This is a MAJOR KC pity party!!

Sorry, I know most of you probably discussed all this already, it's just hard to watch and not comment!!!!!! I just don't know if I can keep listening.. This treating her like she's some leader of a cult or something!

OK have #3 on........still listening, so far!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:16:59 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33li9o7.jpg)
For those in the cold zones, try to stay warm today


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:19:30 AM
NANCY GRACE January 15, 2009

 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:20:49 AM
#3 OMG, she's upset they had Chili without her!!!! Now she's quoting the bible!! Who the heck was this stranger they let in?? Wonder if it's someone still around?? Still talking about KC, and her well being and that she's eating. Uggghhhh. They're not talking about finding Caylee, it's barely about Caylee. Actually it's not about Caylee at all!!!!!!! I can't believe this, it's sickening!! How can they still support her????? Even to this day, now that she's been found. They have to know KC did it.

Now I'm falling behind again, good thing it's a little slower in the cage now!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:22:36 AM
Sorry I misspelled you name Quietmonkey.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Trimm, it's ok, I misspell all the time! Still listening to these tapes. Poor baby KC!!  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:28:03 AM
Meter reader receives $5,000 reward in Casey Anthony case

 (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1609jan16,0,1967378.story)
Amy L. Edwards and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
January 16, 2009

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.

Kronk's attorney released a statement confirming the reward: "Roy is very thankful that Mark NeJame has recognized his singular efforts in finding Caylee and hopes that this sends a message to others that kindness does exist for people who do the right thing in life."

Sheriff's investigators recovered the toddler's bones last month after Kronk reported finding a skull in woods along Suburban Drive, a quarter-mile from the grandparents' home. He called several times in August to report seeing something suspicious in the woods, but deputies at the time found nothing.

In other developments Thursday:

*County officials released a jailhouse video of the Anthonys speaking with Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing the toddler. During the Aug. 14 visit, a month after her arrest in July, Casey Anthony tells her parents she is "an emotional wreck."

In the video, which shows the family members talking to each other by phone, Casey Anthony describes herself as frustrated and angry. She complains about not being in control or knowing what's going on.

"My entire life has been taken from me," she said.

Anthony told her mother she wants help from detectives but that the investigators need to help her, too.

"I'll try to help them in whatever way that I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they're not getting [anything]. I'm sorry," she said. "I need to be looked at as a victim . . . I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn't been portrayed that way."

*Also, the Orange County Sheriff's Office reported that one patrol deputy who allegedly did not properly follow up one of Kronk's tips in August has been temporarily reassigned.

Deputy Richard Cain, 40, will work in the supply division, where employees inventory and sort supplies, until the Sheriff's Office's internal investigation is completed.

Cain has been criticized for how he handled Kronk's tip on Aug. 13. In an interview this week on ABC's Good Morning America, Kronk said the deputy who responded poked around with a metal stick, "swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,' and pretty much, that was it."

Kronk didn't name the deputy. But a sheriff's official said Cain was the only deputy to respond in August when Kronk was at the site. As part of the reassignment, Cain must turn in his sworn credentials and agency-issued equipment, including badges, gun, patrol car and radio. Cain is not allowed to represent himself as an Orange County deputy in any way, including for off-duty work.

The Sheriff's Office did not say when its internal investigation will be completed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scarrlett on January 16, 2009, 08:28:57 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Eating it?  ::MonkeyShocked:: Gross!! My brother-in-law swears by the foot thing, though.  I guess it works for him. I've never tried it..  Just for $hits and giggles, I'll have to do it next time I get sick.  ::MonkeyWink::


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Morning Trimm!  ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Another Monkey.. Let me say Thanks for all the links and info you give out to us. And BTW...Mom would put it in my nose,on my chest and throat.  It also takes the color out of bruises real quick!! Just "old wise tales" thought you might like!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Same thanks to you as well Today. You guys are so "in the know". Can you all imagine that Casey really believes she is the victim? This chick should at the very least be removed from society no matter what the out come of the trail. She is obviously ill in her thinking and can not be trusted not to break the law. She just takes and takes. And for her to quote the bible?????

Wait until Quiet Monkey gets to that part!! Hold on to your tails!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:33:25 AM
Welcome FunnyBunnys and all the New Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:33:29 AM
Tape #4, does KC say she's just as much a victim as Caylee??  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That's what it sounded like, but the tape breaks up in that exact spot. It's tape #4 at 1:40. Than they all get silent for almost 20 seconds! Anyone else see that part? Does anymonkey know for sure if she said that about being just as much a victim as Caylee?? I'm not positive but that's what it sounded like??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 08:33:33 AM
I drove by the Anthony's after visiting Caylee's memorial site today.......Lee's car was parked "in" the front yard.....Mallory's Jeep Liberty was parked in the driveway.

Several cars of families stopped at Caylee's memorial site when I was there. One young couple asked if I knew where the A's house was located.......my mom (God love her)
said to the guy.....follow us, we'll show you..... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I took pix but I'm at my mom's and I don't have my camera cords to transfer them to her computer. I'll be headed back to PA on Sunday and will post them then.
There had to be a couple hundred stuffed animals, and flowers, signs, letters, pictures....
I signed scaredmonkeys to the huge wooden sign, and to a picture and prayer. I left a  teddy bear with a red heart signed "scaredmonkeys". And my favorite was a beautiful
glass suncatcher that reads "You are My Sunshine".


Seemeatthebeach,That was so kind of you.Can't wait to see the photos. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mstam656 on January 16, 2009, 08:33:33 AM
Ok, still listening, I'm 6 mins in. First KC says she doesn't know anything she's been in jail a month, she's out of loop so "how can she help",  something like that. A few mins later she just said "Jose is making sure that I'm well aware of everything that is going on, he's keeping me completely updated on stuff which I appreciate cause that's all I have to go off of". G&C were just trying to get her to tell them something, anything. Uh-oh! KC's upset now, she's really upset!! Oh Please, it's like "don't upset KC"!! Now she says she's "not in control because she doesn't know what's going on". Which is it KC, thought JB was keeping you "completely updated"!! Now she says HER life has "been completely taken from her". Hello KC, what about Caylee's life!!!!!! You're still alive KC!!

I'm watching this thinking this was just days before LP came in and got her out of jail. Watching this now makes me think what might have happened had he left her in? She may have broken down (probably not), but just thinking how she did get "emotional", yeah for herself, but she was pi$$ed they wanted information! I think if she were ever to get pushed enough, she'd crack and spit it out. Not because she wanted to, but because she couldn't help it. Maybe she did when she got home, but then why did G & C after this decide to vehemently (sorry spelling) profess her innocence and insist Caylee is alive?? Is this where CA lost her last bit of sanity about this?? I dunno. George talks to her like she's a little girl, or his girlfriend, not sure which. It's almost like he doesn't really know how to talk to her, so he's just overly nice and doesn't realize how "sick" it comes across! Ok, I haven't finished part 1 because I'm writing this, but I couldn't help posting this as I'm thinking it!!


she is unbelievable...I have never seen anyone as selfish as her...OMG...how can her parents not see that?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 16, 2009, 08:36:07 AM
Tape #4, does KC say she's just as much a victim as Caylee??  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That's what it sounded like, but the tape breaks up in that exact spot. It's tape #4 at 1:40. Than they all get silent for almost 20 seconds! Anyone else see that part? Does anymonkey know for sure if she said that about being just as much a victim as Caylee?? I'm not positive but that's what it sounded like??

Yes, QuietMonkey, I heard the same thing.  It is sickening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:36:53 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33li9o7.jpg)
For those in the cold zones, try to stay warm today
I love that Today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:37:03 AM

Good Morning (http://th127.photobucket.com/albums/p153/sarahpage_01/th_BOO.gif) if you're still here!
Has anyone seen SeaSearcher?? Are you here SS?? Hope all is better today.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 08:38:08 AM
I am very confused. Are you saying I am a troll. I truly thought it was out of line and when I asked what they were talking about I never got an answer, that is why I asked Klaas how to bring it over to this thread.
No I am saying that dogmom4 is trolling.  He/she posted below and left.  Serveral people had asked for an explaination and this person took off without answering. 
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I cannot have any respect for him if what I have read about him is true that he defended some creep who ejaculated on a child? That makes him disgusting to me
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My original post was
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I've noticed that Mark NeJame has gone from vampire (remember this ) when he represented the A's.

To hero when he quit representing the A's and volunteered his services to TES.

What do you all think of him now?

You than asked about dogmom4's response to me post. 
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I am behind so this is probably already been asked, WHO IS HE AND WHAT CHILD? TIA JSM

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? IT CREEPED ME OUT AND I NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. TIA JSM

And I responded

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When someone reponds to a post like this and then leaves its called trolling. 
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A troll is a user that repeatedly and intentionally breaches netiquette, often posting derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community to bait users into responding, often starting flame wars.

I have no idea of who NeJame has represented in his career, however he has an excellent reputation.  I'm sure you could do some internet searches and find out, if NeJame has ever represented someone like this, and if so in what point in his career.  If you then determine that NeJame has represented an individual accused of this,  then you have to consider if you believe that everyone, no matter what crime they are accused of deserves representation. 

IMHO Either way I honestly, I don't know what difference it really makes as far as NeJame's representation of Tim Miller. 


Hope this helps everyone.  Its really hard to bring over a post from a locked thread without noting who said what.

My preview function isn't working and I'm praying that I got the quotes right.
Thanks Today, I went to bed before you posted this. I was confused about the troll comment.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:42:55 AM
I have to admit that this latest video was easier to suffer through than previous ones. Might be cause CA didn't drone on and on as much. She spent most of her visit crying and trying to keep her sorry head off the table. Too bad I have no sympathy or empathy for CA or GA cause they were either sufferring or trying to give the appearance of it. KC didn't show an iota of worry about her missing child or what was being done to find Caylee, just a whole lot of self pity. GA and CA should be proud of the monster they created and continue to support because KC truly is one of a kind. They made her the boss and will always bow down to her because they will never admit that they did anything to make this monster. That appalling family makes me sick and I hope they all rot in the slammer!!

Now that they have found Caylee, KC has nothing over Ants. If I were Cindy I would go down there and ream her a new ass! She's got nothing to loose now, KC already took it away. I can't understand why they don't rake her over the coals, she killed Caylee. I know JB won't allow it, but I would be giving Kc good reason to poke herself in the eye!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 08:45:51 AM
OMG!! She said she can only focus on HER case from jail, she said she CAN'T focus on Caylee (when CA said Caylee should be her focus) from in jail because she doesn't have access to the internet, she can't make phone calls, she can't go anywhere!! She says she told them everything they can do, and CA says she did, & KC said "I'm sorry that's all I can do from the only knowledge that I have". Ok still listening to tape 2. Poor baby KC is soo upset, she can't swallow it hurts!!!!!!!!!! She has nothing!! Ugggghhhhhhh. How G & C support her after this???? (http://th132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/spider_goo/smilies/th_madm.gif)

Now she's pi$$ed at them for not getting her out of there!!!!!! She's soooo hurt by everything that is being said. There still tiptoeing around her, because they she's already so upset. This is so rediculous!! KC has no body but herself & her attorney. She barely says Caylee's name!! Uggghhhh, I don't know how much more I can listen to???????? She's so worried what people think about her and what's being reported in the media. They're hardly talking about Caylee and how to find her, it's all about KC and what she's going through!! This is a MAJOR KC pity party!!

Sorry, I know most of you probably discussed all this already, it's just hard to watch and not comment!!!!!! I just don't know if I can keep listening.. This treating her like she's some leader of a cult or something!

OK have #3 on........still listening, so far!




I might be seeing the first part of the tape a bit different than many, but close to what you are saying.  That part was clear to me that she wants mommy and daddy to take care of everything.  When George calls her the boss, she got livid because she doesn't want to take any responsibility or have to do anything.  She never had to take responsibility for anything in the past and that is clear.  It was also clear in the beginning that Caylee took her parents love away in her mind too.  She wanted them back so she killed the poor girl so she could be number 1 again.  She was still mad at her mom for whatever happened on the 15th and that is why she only wanted to see George.  Well, on top of that, she wanted to see him because he was easier to manipulate.  George is a real dumbarse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:48:06 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Yeah, I did the Vicks on the feet. It really did work!! I just have a tiny tin, so I'm going out and buying a jar today. I really do have to find my gloves somewhere around here!! But my Jeep does warm up pretty quick. Man I love my Jeep!! Esp in this weather, nothing can stop me!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: momma monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:50:18 AM
I am trying to catch up on all the posts. Does anyone have a link to the new released video of Casey in jail?  I want to see it.

Thanks! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lucinda on January 16, 2009, 08:51:14 AM
Thanks for the good news PookyBear!! Thats a big relief.

Good Morning Trimm and the rest of the swinging gang.

Good morning Scarlett -- I have been looking for you.  Are you doing okay this cold morning?

I am doing okay and staying warm. I am very grateful that I am. It is about -2F but it is still in the Catskills so it is easier to take. A lot easier than those jail house tapes.

They really are afraid to upset her for fear of what she might do or say. George is right. Casey is the boss in that family. Just their little sweetheart. So gorgeous and all. When they listen to this; how is it they don't see how awful this looks and sounds. Cindy IS all about appearances??

Hey Lucinda...I like your new look. I will try to send you some of that Artic chill I have going on!

Thanks Scarrlett, I will gladly accept some chill  ::MonkeyHaHa::
What could she do tho in jail?  Drown her sorry head in the dunny bowl?  Or, maybe spill some private family secrets they dont want exposed?  She is a number alright, I bet she still thinks shes getting away with murder.  Im going to make sure i have fast internet when her court case comes around, wouldnt want to miss that for a second.  Seeing her smug face crumble when she is sentanced. 
Its all about caylee, sadly the whole lot of them seem to have forgotten what their precious sweetheart daughter casey did.  Killed Caylee then put her in a garbage bag and dumped her like a piece of trash.  Sympathy for the Anthonys?  No way in hell will they get a juror to feel sorry for them, the enablers.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:53:31 AM
I am trying to catch up on all the posts. Does anyone have a link to the new released video of Casey in jail?  I want to see it.

Thanks! ::MonkeyWink::

Start here momma monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:54:07 AM
"And with keeping me here, you're not helping me help myself"

That has to be the line of the entire video.  What a BITCH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: momma monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
I am trying to catch up on all the posts. Does anyone have a link to the new released video of Casey in jail?  I want to see it.

Thanks! ::MonkeyWink::

Start here momma monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page

Thanks!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:58:06 AM

Boo, just making sure you're ok. I've posted to you a few times over the last couple days, and you never replied or acknowledged. Am I just being a paranoid monkey? Just want to be sure I didn't do or say something to upset you? If so, I'm very sorry!! I just don't know what it could be. Hope I'm just totally wrong! In that case, I'm sorry to bother you with this. I know you haven't been feeling well, and I hope you are doing better.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 16, 2009, 08:58:46 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 08:59:34 AM
OMG!! She said she can only focus on HER case from jail, she said she CAN'T focus on Caylee (when CA said Caylee should be her focus) from in jail because she doesn't have access to the internet, she can't make phone calls, she can't go anywhere!! She says she told them everything they can do, and CA says she did, & KC said "I'm sorry that's all I can do from the only knowledge that I have". Ok still listening to tape 2. Poor baby KC is soo upset, she can't swallow it hurts!!!!!!!!!! She has nothing!! Ugggghhhhhhh. How G & C support her after this???? (http://th132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/spider_goo/smilies/th_madm.gif)

Now she's pi$$ed at them for not getting her out of there!!!!!! She's soooo hurt by everything that is being said. There still tiptoeing around her, because they she's already so upset. This is so rediculous!! KC has no body but herself & her attorney. She barely says Caylee's name!! Uggghhhh, I don't know how much more I can listen to???????? She's so worried what people think about her and what's being reported in the media. They're hardly talking about Caylee and how to find her, it's all about KC and what she's going through!! This is a MAJOR KC pity party!!

Sorry, I know most of you probably discussed all this already, it's just hard to watch and not comment!!!!!! I just don't know if I can keep listening.. This treating her like she's some leader of a cult or something!

OK have #3 on........still listening, so far!




I might be seeing the first part of the tape a bit different than many, but close to what you are saying.  That part was clear to me that she wants mommy and daddy to take care of everything.  When George calls her the boss, she got livid because she doesn't want to take any responsibility or have to do anything.  She never had to take responsibility for anything in the past and that is clear.  It was also clear in the beginning that Caylee took her parents love away in her mind too.  She wanted them back so she killed the poor girl so she could be number 1 again.  She was still mad at her mom for whatever happened on the 15th and that is why she only wanted to see George.  Well, on top of that, she wanted to see him because he was easier to manipulate.  George is a real dumbarse.


Good morning, everyone. 

I have only seen snippets of the vid on tv.  Its too hard to view vids on computer 'cause of snail speed dialup.

Question:  does anyone know what transpired between KC and CA that time before KC took off?  I heard about the throttling part, but that's about all (as if that isn't enough  ::MonkeyConfused::).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:02:57 AM
#3 OMG, she's upset they had Chili without her!!!! Now she's quoting the bible!! Who the heck was this stranger they let in?? Wonder if it's someone still around?? Still talking about KC, and her well being and that she's eating. Uggghhhh. They're not talking about finding Caylee, it's barely about Caylee. Actually it's not about Caylee at all!!!!!!! I can't believe this, it's sickening!! How can they still support her????? Even to this day, now that she's been found. They have to know KC did it.

Now I'm falling behind again, good thing it's a little slower in the cage now!!

All of it was sickening, but the Bible quoting was just over the top..  She's murdered her child, and she has the ballz to quote scripture?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 09:03:24 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33li9o7.jpg)
For those in the cold zones, try to stay warm today

Ha!  I love love love it, I just woke up and this made my day!

Good Morning Everyone!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TexasBarMom on January 16, 2009, 09:03:49 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............



VERY good posts ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
What was up with the "stranger" they let come over on Caylee's birthday??
Wasn't that odd, who lets a complete stranger into their house, esp considering the circumstances. ::MonkeyEek::
I thought I was the only one thinking something was wonky about this post. Thanks Rose, how is my Zoe?
     GOOD MORNING MONKEYS  --Yes some one rings your bell-says I am alone can i come and eat.  Your grand daughter is missinig -your daughter is in jail-you have media all over just looking for a story on what the hell is going on in that house.--So what do you say to the stranger sure come in-we are just sitting around doing nothing.  KC does not act shocked she says thats the right thing to do,who was this stranger-- Lucifer --of course  a hell away from home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 09:06:15 AM
Tape #4, does KC say she's just as much a victim as Caylee??  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That's what it sounded like, but the tape breaks up in that exact spot. It's tape #4 at 1:40. Than they all get silent for almost 20 seconds! Anyone else see that part? Does anymonkey know for sure if she said that about being just as much a victim as Caylee?? I'm not positive but that's what it sounded like??

Yes, QuietMonkey, I heard the same thing.  It is sickening.




I heard the same thing.The parents  should have gotten up and walked out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:08:27 AM

Hi Another Monkey.. Let me say Thanks for all the links and info you give out to us. And BTW...Mom would put it in my nose,on my chest and throat.  It also takes the color out of bruises real quick!! Just "old wise tales" thought you might like!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Growing up, it was common to get some just above the upper lip, and/or on the chest.. I think throat, too, though it's been years since I was young enough to have my mom or dad "baby" me like that.  Now, I think they don't recommend putting it anywhere on a child besides the chest (and probably neck).  For some reason, we were all discussing this at Thanksgiving.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think I've heard about the bruises thing, though> is that for real?  ::MonkeyEek:: Pretty cool, if true!


I agree with you that Casey doesn't deserve to be out on the streets again. EVER.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lucinda on January 16, 2009, 09:08:47 AM
goodnight monkey friends, im going to catch up tomorrow after work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 09:08:49 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

could it be Baez is one of the good guys-Bam he wants her gone---he get money and fame -he can still milk her for what its work when she is convicted--because no one can be as stupid as Baez-its just not possible ::MonkeyConfused::




















Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 09:12:28 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............




Very nice folks!!!  Simply put, Casey was created by George and by Cindy and nurtured into the monster she is.  George is weak and Cindy has mental problems.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


That would be me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad you gave it a try!!Thanks for being  brave enough to try it!! Just awesome!!Now I will send back an email to the original sender and let her know it really does work!!!Hope you are at 100 percent soon..Hugs

It also helps when you ELEVATE your head.  With a couple of pillows.
n  Thank you for that tip--I will try it on my grand daugher.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TexasBarMom on January 16, 2009, 09:13:35 AM
Tape #4, does KC say she's just as much a victim as Caylee??  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That's what it sounded like, but the tape breaks up in that exact spot. It's tape #4 at 1:40. Than they all get silent for almost 20 seconds! Anyone else see that part? Does anymonkey know for sure if she said that about being just as much a victim as Caylee?? I'm not positive but that's what it sounded like??

Yes, QuietMonkey, I heard the same thing.  It is sickening.




I heard the same thing.The parents  should have gotten up and walked out.


They should have told her "God help you, you are pathetic.  We are leaving and we won't be back unless we get word from Baez that you are ready to tell us the truth about what happened to our granddaughter." 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 09:14:47 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Yeah, I did the Vicks on the feet. It really did work!! I just have a tiny tin, so I'm going out and buying a jar today. I really do have to find my gloves somewhere around here!! But my Jeep does warm up pretty quick. Man I love my Jeep!! Esp in this weather, nothing can stop me!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 09:15:04 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

could it be Baez is one of the good guys-Bam he wants her gone---he get money and fame -he can still milk her for what its work when she is convicted--because no one can be as stupid as Baez-its just not possible ::MonkeyConfused::





















Baez wanted this tape because there was something about police misconduct.  I wonder how he feels today finding out that this tape reveals nothing about LE.  I am sure that George and Cindy and Casey convinced him that LE was holding this back because it would hurt the police.

I call it the old fashioned:

Rope a dope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 09:15:23 AM
goodnight monkey friends, im going to catch up tomorrow after work.


'Nite Lucinda. Stay coool.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 09:17:59 AM
Sorry to keep bugging everyone, but Greta and NG are on at the same time...........

Which do you guys recommend? TIA!!
Hey CBB!  I've got Greta on right now and it's all about the plane crash.  NG was about the new video.  If you havn't seen it you have to watch.  You will be shocked by Casey's behavior.  ::MonkeyWink::
  In my area you can watch ng- at 8 she repeats at 10 greta at 10 she repeat later on in the night dont know the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 09:18:39 AM
joesamas mama - are you from the Czech Republic? I think I read you saying that Joe could understand some words in Czech?  (My dad's mother's side is from that part of the world).


Morning monkey friends :)
No I'm not from Czech Republic. I am from Texas. There are a lot of Czechs in Texas. My best friend is half Czech and he has taught Josef and me animal names, curse words, etc that his Granddad taught him. I wish I were Czech they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:19:04 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

could it be Baez is one of the good guys-Bam he wants her gone---he get money and fame -he can still milk her for what its work when she is convicted--because no one can be as stupid as Baez-its just not possible ::MonkeyConfused::


It would probably be best for his career if he high tailed it out of there, before it's too late. I know, maybe it is? But, he's got some fame now, if he goes ahead to defend her at trial, where she doesn't have a good chance (I think) that wouldn't be good for him. Maybe if he bails while he still has the fame, but isn't responsible for trying to get her off, it might be a much better for him? He's probably so entangled with KC personally though, or so it seems, so maybe he won't? I don't know? KC would most likely lose it if JB bailed, what would she do? She'd go nuts with some "unknown" public defender. Unless someone jumped in his spot? I don't know, I'm wasting my time thinking about it! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mioyshi on January 16, 2009, 09:21:03 AM
good morning monkeys, and lurkers,,,,here is the news I found today>>

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.""

still, things that make me go hmmmmmm ::MonkeyConfused::  mio







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:21:19 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

could it be Baez is one of the good guys-Bam he wants her gone---he get money and fame -he can still milk her for what its work when she is convicted--because no one can be as stupid as Baez-its just not possible ::MonkeyConfused::


QuietMonkey said, not cherjers:
It would probably be best for his career if he high tailed it out of there, before it's too late. I know, maybe it is? But, he's got some fame now, if he goes ahead to defend her at trial, where she doesn't have a good chance (I think) that wouldn't be good for him. Maybe if he bails while he still has the fame, but isn't responsible for trying to get her off, it might be a much better for him? He's probably so entangled with KC personally though, or so it seems, so maybe he won't? I don't know? KC would most likely lose it if JB bailed, what would she do? She'd go nuts with some "unknown" public defender. Unless someone jumped in his spot? I don't know, I'm wasting my time thinking about it! ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm so sorry cherjers, I thought I had it all right, but I ended up in your quote!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 09:23:03 AM
Meter reader receives $5,000 reward in Casey Anthony case

 (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1609jan16,0,1967378.story)
Amy L. Edwards and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
January 16, 2009

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.

Kronk's attorney released a statement confirming the reward: "Roy is very thankful that Mark NeJame has recognized his singular efforts in finding Caylee and hopes that this sends a message to others that kindness does exist for people who do the right thing in life."

Sheriff's investigators recovered the toddler's bones last month after Kronk reported finding a skull in woods along Suburban Drive, a quarter-mile from the grandparents' home. He called several times in August to report seeing something suspicious in the woods, but deputies at the time found nothing.

In other developments Thursday:

*County officials released a jailhouse video of the Anthonys speaking with Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing the toddler. During the Aug. 14 visit, a month after her arrest in July, Casey Anthony tells her parents she is "an emotional wreck."

In the video, which shows the family members talking to each other by phone, Casey Anthony describes herself as frustrated and angry. She complains about not being in control or knowing what's going on.

"My entire life has been taken from me," she said.

Anthony told her mother she wants help from detectives but that the investigators need to help her, too.

"I'll try to help them in whatever way that I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they're not getting [anything]. I'm sorry," she said. "I need to be looked at as a victim . . . I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn't been portrayed that way."

*Also, the Orange County Sheriff's Office reported that one patrol deputy who allegedly did not properly follow up one of Kronk's tips in August has been temporarily reassigned.

Deputy Richard Cain, 40, will work in the supply division, where employees inventory and sort supplies, until the Sheriff's Office's internal investigation is completed.

Cain has been criticized for how he handled Kronk's tip on Aug. 13. In an interview this week on ABC's Good Morning America, Kronk said the deputy who responded poked around with a metal stick, "swept his head back and forth and said, 'I don't see anything,' and pretty much, that was it."

Kronk didn't name the deputy. But a sheriff's official said Cain was the only deputy to respond in August when Kronk was at the site. As part of the reassignment, Cain must turn in his sworn credentials and agency-issued equipment, including badges, gun, patrol car and radio. Cain is not allowed to represent himself as an Orange County deputy in any way, including for off-duty work.

The Sheriff's Office did not say when its internal investigation will be completed.


Lets not forget-if it wasn't for Kronk Caylee would still in the woods-not saying his story isn't a little weird -but what the hell in this case everything is weird.  KC killed Caylee period--yes this case is full of crazies but one killer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
joesamas mama - are you from the Czech Republic? I think I read you saying that Joe could understand some words in Czech?  (My dad's mother's side is from that part of the world).


Morning monkey friends :)
No I'm not from Czech Republic. I am from Texas. There are a lot of Czechs in Texas. My best friend is half Czech and he has taught Josef and me animal names, curse words, etc that his Granddad taught him. I wish I were Czech they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.

That's cool. I was just wondering.  ::MonkeyWink::  (I agree with you, though. I have an online friend who lives in CR.  He is obsessed with Pepsi. I mean.. OBSESSED. And apparently they don't get all the different flavors there like we do here.. just plain ol' Pepsi.  ::MonkeyTongue:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 09:28:35 AM

Hi, Leroy Sheroy!

When I read what you said, I thought, "No, Silly Leroy, you're supposed to put the Vicks on the soles of your feet, not on your grocery list!"
 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 

Too Funny  ::MonkeyLaugh:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:28:40 AM
Didn't want to quote to save space ... but

luckycharmsprincess ... I love your insights on the As ... when I read your posts I'm constantly thinking .. yep, yep, yep ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 09:31:43 AM
joesamas mama - are you from the Czech Republic? I think I read you saying that Joe could understand some words in Czech?  (My dad's mother's side is from that part of the world).


Morning monkey friends :)
No I'm not from Czech Republic. I am from Texas. There are a lot of Czechs in Texas. My best friend is half Czech and he has taught Josef and me animal names, curse words, etc that his Granddad taught him. I wish I were Czech they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.

That's cool. I was just wondering.  ::MonkeyWink::  (I agree with you, though. I have an online friend who lives in CR.  He is obsessed with Pepsi. I mean.. OBSESSED. And apparently they don't get all the different flavors there like we do here.. just plain ol' Pepsi.  ::MonkeyTongue:: )
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 09:32:16 AM
good morning monkeys, and lurkers,,,,here is the news I found today>>

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.""

still, things that make me go hmmmmmm ::MonkeyConfused::  mio

The question is did he sell a picture to GMA or not?  Well we all know they license the picture and get the interview for free cough, cough.  Another $5,000 why not.  However:

Even if Mark NeJame is doing this for the right reasons (IMHO the jury is out on this), paying/rewarding anyone involved with this case and then reporting it to the media just causes more creeps to come out and try to make money off of Caylee.  I honestly don't know why NeJame had to let every media source know what he was doing, if he was just feeling philanthropic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
I dont know how you other Monkey's feel about this, but I truly believe this will never see the inside of a courtroom.
I believe she will be forced to cut a deal if what Lee is involved in or the A's can be proved to have had knowledge Caylee was deceased prior to Dec.11, 2008.

I watched the video last night, jaw on the floor, then watched it again without the sound and focused solely on Cindy and George. These people knew that child was dead, at least Cindy for sure. Made me wanna hurl. There is no reasonable explanation for their ensuing behavior anyone is ever going to make sense to me.

These people are a scam, and this child sits in a a box, following a lengthy stay in a garbage bag in a swamp- it is maddening.

Kronk calls LE 8/11, 8/12, 8/13.. I do believe Kronk was unknowingly tipped off by someone knowingly and he did not find her then. (my piece on Kronk reward..)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/15/robin-hood-alive-in-orlando-mark-nejame-rewards-roy-kronk-5k/#more-6513)

The jailhouse video takes place on 8/14 the next day. If there were cops and the like in that area 3x 3 days in a row, isnt it reasonable to assume they at least heard of that if not "known" outright?

I hope the concsious fairy visits these people in short order, I dont know how much more of this I can stomach.

rant over, sorry ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 09:34:09 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh...I'm guessing the board concensus is that you put Vicks on your feet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 09:36:13 AM
I am trying to catch up on all the posts. Does anyone have a link to the new released video of Casey in jail?  I want to see it.
Make sure you don't have a full stomach before watching! Its pretty bad IMO.
Thanks! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 09:37:52 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Yeah, I did the Vicks on the feet. It really did work!! I just have a tiny tin, so I'm going out and buying a jar today. I really do have to find my gloves somewhere around here!! But my Jeep does warm up pretty quick. Man I love my Jeep!! Esp in this weather, nothing can stop me!!  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyDance::  Yea for Jeeps!  I love mine too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 09:39:58 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh...I'm guessing the board concensus is that you put Vicks on your feet!
Just for the heck of it I Googled Vicks on feet (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-18,GGLD:en&q=vicks+on+feet) and got 312,000 responses.  (http://i43.tinypic.com/30ae461.jpg)

Could Vicks be the new WD40?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh...I'm guessing the board concensus is that you put Vicks on your feet!
You seriously crack me up!  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 09:40:49 AM
Goodnight to all those headed out.

Good evening to the incoming Moonlight Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::

The jailhouse interview video tape is nauseating. Casey has NO interest in her missing daughter. She actually said "i'm a victim, too".  I would very much like her to be the "victim" of a firing squad.     
Agreed. Then she should be cremated and her remains flushed down the prison toilet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 09:40:59 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uh...I'm guessing the board concensus is that you put Vicks on your feet!
You seriously crack me up!  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Uh, thank ya, thank ya verry much!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 09:41:45 AM
good morning monkeys, and lurkers,,,,here is the news I found today>>

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.""

still, things that make me go hmmmmmm ::MonkeyConfused::  mio

The question is did he sell a picture to GMA or not?  Well we all know they license the picture and get the interview for free cough, cough.  Another $5,000 why not.  However:

Even if Mark NeJame is doing this for the right reasons (IMHO the jury is out on this), paying/rewarding anyone involved with this case and then reporting it to the media just causes more creeps to come out and try to make money off of Caylee.  I honestly don't know why NeJame had to let every media source know what he was doing, if he was just feeling philanthropic.

I dont want to sound like I am defending Mark, cause imo I dont think he needs it on this one, but if Kronk sold an image, that's on Kronk. I know for a fact that Nejame was considering doing this 3 weeks ago, and had the issue checked out to his satisfaction.

The announcement actually came from Kronk's attorney Dave Earl, not Mark, and the press followed up with Mark for soundbites, which is customary. I am not and cannot vouch for Kronk, dont know the guy, but I do believe Mark firing the A's, representing TES pro bono and this reward are genuine examples of Mark efforts to help others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:42:56 AM
Goodnight to all those headed out.

Good evening to the incoming Moonlight Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::

The jailhouse interview video tape is nauseating. Casey has NO interest in her missing daughter. She actually said "i'm a victim, too".  I would very much like her to be the "victim" of a firing squad.     
Agreed. Then she should be cremated and her remains flushed down the prison toilet!

Even that's too good for that b*tch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 16, 2009, 09:44:08 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JOLfan on January 16, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

My mom got a Jeep last year and said the same thing.  I hate her driving so I always drive when we go anywhere so I have never witnessed the waving thing.  I thought she was just being goofy when she said this! LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 09:46:02 AM
Goodnight to all those headed out.

Good evening to the incoming Moonlight Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::

The jailhouse interview video tape is nauseating. Casey has NO interest in her missing daughter. She actually said "i'm a victim, too".  I would very much like her to be the "victim" of a firing squad.     
Agreed. Then she should be cremated and her remains flushed down the prison toilet!

Even that's too good for that b*tch.
Ok, then how bout her remains should be flushed down a, ahem, previously used, filled up toilet? LOL ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
Almost done with the video ... I think I'm going to be sick. She "chose Dad" for the visits b/c he won't ask questions. He will not put the focus on Caylee. Cindy is badgering her in an effort to get to the truth -- unsuccessfully. And Casey is one cold, cold bitch.

She murdered her child and now she wants to throw a little hissy fit because she's "all alone" in jail. Her family is eating chili witohut her. Oh, boo hoo hooty hoo. Cry me a friggin river, Casey.  :smt091 :smt091 :smt091 :smt097 :smt097 :smt097

oh, on a nicer note -- morning monkeys! My monkey tail is just now thawing out!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Happy FRIIIIIDAY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:47:41 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the sh*ts again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is that like busting heads? Or Shooting the Breeze with?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:48:24 AM
Goodnight to all those headed out.

Good evening to the incoming Moonlight Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::

The jailhouse interview video tape is nauseating. Casey has NO interest in her missing daughter. She actually said "i'm a victim, too".  I would very much like her to be the "victim" of a firing squad.     
Agreed. Then she should be cremated and her remains flushed down the prison toilet!

Even that's too good for that b*tch.
Ok, then how bout her remains should be flushed down a, ahem, previously used, filled up toilet? LOL ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's a little better.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 09:49:42 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Crack the shits. I need to find out what it means pronto. I am using that one today in conversation as many times as possible. Hope I don't get fired!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 09:50:32 AM
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

My mom got a Jeep last year and said the same thing.  I hate her driving so I always drive when we go anywhere so I have never witnessed the waving thing.  I thought she was just being goofy when she said this! LOL.
It was so wierd when I first got my Jeep.  I thought there was something wrong when I got my first wave.  My DH, who knows everything, told me about the custom. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 16, 2009, 09:50:38 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the sh*ts again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is that like busting heads? Or Shooting the Breeze with?

I dunno, but it's funny !    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sleddogs on January 16, 2009, 09:50:49 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33li9o7.jpg)
For those in the cold zones, try to stay warm today

Ha!  I love love love it, I just woke up and this made my day!

Good Morning Everyone!!!



Prove it!!!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mioyshi on January 16, 2009, 09:50:55 AM
good morning monkeys, and lurkers,,,,here is the news I found today>>

The Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Marie Anthony's remains has received a $5,000 reward from a local lawyer.

Roy Kronk accepted a check from Mark NeJame, who formerly represented Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

NeJame said he received $5,000 for his involvement in the case, and he felt it was right to give the money to Kronk.

"He had done something good. It was only appropriate to do something good back," NeJame said Thursday.""

still, things that make me go hmmmmmm ::MonkeyConfused::  mio

The question is did he sell a picture to GMA or not?  Well we all know they license the picture and get the interview for free cough, cough.  Another $5,000 why not.  However:

Even if Mark NeJame is doing this for the right reasons (IMHO the jury is out on this), paying/rewarding anyone involved with this case and then reporting it to the media just causes more creeps to come out and try to make money off of Caylee.  I honestly don't know why NeJame had to let every media source know what he was doing, if he was just feeling philanthropic.

seems to me, a humble gesture from the giver, remains silent, or else it becomes bragging.....

at the moment, I am still undecided on this happening, , yet, ,it just does not feel right.
the anthonys hire najime, or he lawyers for them for free and media attention.
then he quits when things get hot...
now, he GIVES HIS money to kronk, in order to do the right thing??

I just do not believe any of them have nor will  ever do the right thing.  They all knew, and they have all attempted to aquire ill gotten gains, all in the name of Caylee..may she rest in peace, or at least haunt every one of them..

and oh yeah, I wish I had the vicks knowledge when I had my flu from haties last week. Next time, I will try that for sure.... mio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 16, 2009, 09:51:17 AM
Good Morning Monks..old and new.....after watching this latest all I can say is....watch out what you demand BOZO............if he thought this tape was going to evoke any sympathy for his client he was so far off base....if he thought he was going to prove that she had emotions....well, yep he showed that...her anger, her self pity that they had done this to her, her hatred for her parents and the LE...yep, showed that. Her self center concern for only herself...yep it showed that. Her lack of concern for Caylee...yep it showed that....  Yep BOZO you did a great job of showing who and what your client REALLY is!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 09:52:47 AM
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

My mom got a Jeep last year and said the same thing.  I hate her driving so I always drive when we go anywhere so I have never witnessed the waving thing.  I thought she was just being goofy when she said this! LOL.
It was so wierd when I first got my Jeep.  I thought there was something wrong when I got my first wave.  My DH, who knows everything, told me about the custom. 

My sales guy told me about the "wave" and I thought he was nuts.  Didn't take me long to figure out he was right   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scarrlett on January 16, 2009, 09:52:53 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Yeah, I did the Vicks on the feet. It really did work!! I just have a tiny tin, so I'm going out and buying a jar today. I really do have to find my gloves somewhere around here!! But my Jeep does warm up pretty quick. Man I love my Jeep!! Esp in this weather, nothing can stop me!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

Birds of a feather flock together!! We have 3 jeeps. The newer 07', The ole work horse 99',and the plow Jeep.85'

They keep on going and I have NEVER been stranded with any of our Jeeps. Many times I just go around the others sliding away, and off I go! I also have pulled out a bunch of people in bad storms. They have big rallies up-state in New york and it is amazing what they can do.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:53:52 AM
So what is the recommended remedy after watching those jail tapes? They should come with a warning not to eat before viewing! That POS had absolutely NO discipline or accountabilty growing up did she? She ran the show I guess. What is up with George constantly calling her beautiful or hey gorgeous. I feel absolutely sick to my stomach after watching those tapes. Casey had to have been Enraged when she killed Caylee. Its obvious. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I personally drank some red wine curtesy of Lovin'Life last night!  THat sure helped me. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 09:55:40 AM
I dont know how you other Monkey's feel about this, but I truly believe this will never see the inside of a courtroom.
I believe she will be forced to cut a deal if what Lee is involved in or the A's can be proved to have had knowledge Caylee was deceased prior to Dec.11, 2008.

I watched the video last night, jaw on the floor, then watched it again without the sound and focused solely on Cindy and George. These people knew that child was dead, at least Cindy for sure. Made me wanna hurl. There is no reasonable explanation for their ensuing behavior anyone is ever going to make sense to me.

These people are a scam, and this child sits in a a box, following a lengthy stay in a garbage bag in a swamp- it is maddening.

Kronk calls LE 8/11, 8/12, 8/13.. I do believe Kronk was unknowingly tipped off by someone knowingly and he did not find her then. (my piece on Kronk reward..)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/15/robin-hood-alive-in-orlando-mark-nejame-rewards-roy-kronk-5k/#more-6513)

The jailhouse video takes place on 8/14 the next day. If there were cops and the like in that area 3x 3 days in a row, isnt it reasonable to assume they at least heard of that if not "known" outright?

I hope the concsious fairy visits these people in short order, I dont know how much more of this I can stomach.

rant over, sorry ::MonkeyConfused::


I'm with you there will be a deal, this will not go to trial, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:56:56 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 09:59:30 AM
seemeatthebeach... That was very thoughtful and kind of you, thank-you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:01:20 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

Agreed.  He has been very quiet since he left the looney bin.  It is very obvious from this and his representation of Tim Miller that he feels he has to give something back.  Goes around...comes around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JOLfan on January 16, 2009, 10:04:22 AM
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

My mom got a Jeep last year and said the same thing.  I hate her driving so I always drive when we go anywhere so I have never witnessed the waving thing.  I thought she was just being goofy when she said this! LOL.
It was so wierd when I first got my Jeep.  I thought there was something wrong when I got my first wave.  My DH, who knows everything, told me about the custom. 

My sales guy told me about the "wave" and I thought he was nuts.  Didn't take me long to figure out he was right   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

What a cute Jeep "family" you guys have.  Now I wish I had a Jeep...noone every waves at my Hyundai!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:05:44 AM
What really stands out to me is such a master manipulator KC is.  All she does during this entire visit is reitterate how she has to get out of jail.  She lays such a guilt trip on her parents.

But according to L Padilla last night, she ALREADY KNEW that LP was on his way to bond her out.  She KNEW she was getting out, but had to put her parents through all of that just for her own selfish ego.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 10:05:46 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:06:23 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Crack the shits. I need to find out what it means pronto. I am using that one today in conversation as many times as possible. Hope I don't get fired!  ::MonkeyShocked::
I wanted to know what a dunny is also.  Lucinda needs to give us an Aussie - English dictionary!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:06:35 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:07:58 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pegster57 on January 16, 2009, 10:08:58 AM
Boy, that tape was a real eye-opener, wasn't it? I bet Jose is kicking himself for requesting it! He thought they were hiding it on purpose because it helped the prosecution's case. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I was just appalled at how KC spoke to her parents. My mom would have ripped me a new one if I tried any of that with her! How does she get away with it?

Another thing that was repulsive was towards the end of the tape where she said something to the effect of she was reading a lot, studying up on the legal stuff because her case is her main focus right now and Cindy comes back with your focus should be Caylee.  Go Cindy!!  Its obvious in this tape that KC doesn't give a rat's ass about Caylee and can't even pretend to.

Poor Cindy is all but falling apart sobbing and Casey makes fun of her????
And the dagger eyes she gives Casey when Casey chooses her dad for the personal visit? Oh man. This tape speaks volumes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pegster57 on January 16, 2009, 10:10:19 AM
I wanted to know what a dunny is also.  Lucinda needs to give us an Aussie - English dictionary!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Isn't it a toilet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 10:10:23 AM


Did I understand right that Baez wanted this new video released?  ::MonkeyConfused::  Can he be dumber than we thought?  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When the jury sees this video BAM she's gone!!  ::cartwheel::

could it be Baez is one of the good guys-Bam he wants her gone---he get money and fame -he can still milk her for what its work when she is convicted--because no one can be as stupid as Baez-its just not possible ::MonkeyConfused::


QuietMonkey said, not cherjers:
It would probably be best for his career if he high tailed it out of there, before it's too late. I know, maybe it is? But, he's got some fame now, if he goes ahead to defend her at trial, where she doesn't have a good chance (I think) that wouldn't be good for him. Maybe if he bails while he still has the fame, but isn't responsible for trying to get her off, it might be a much better for him? He's probably so entangled with KC personally though, or so it seems, so maybe he won't? I don't know? KC would most likely lose it if JB bailed, what would she do? She'd go nuts with some "unknown" public defender. Unless someone jumped in his spot? I don't know, I'm wasting my time thinking about it! ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm so sorry cherjers, I thought I had it all right, but I ended up in your quote!  ::MonkeyConfused::
No need to be sorry-I didnt even notice


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 16, 2009, 10:10:41 AM
That video provides ample opportunity for a warped mind like mine.  I think I'll have to try to restrain myself abit today.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/CaseyMad081408-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:10:42 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

Agreed.  He has been very quiet since he left the looney bin.  It is very obvious from this and his representation of Tim Miller that he feels he has to give something back.  Goes around...comes around.

Or maybe pay it forward?  In a round about way he is doing for the grandparent what they could not do for themselves....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 10:10:46 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Her quoting the Bible is making me wanna vomit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:11:26 AM
Thanks for the comic rellief this morning Casual!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:12:23 AM
Boy, that tape was a real eye-opener, wasn't it? I bet Jose is kicking himself for requesting it! He thought they were hiding it on purpose because it helped the prosecution's case. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I was just appalled at how KC spoke to her parents. My mom would have ripped me a new one if I tried any of that with her! How does she get away with it?

Another thing that was repulsive was towards the end of the tape where she said something to the effect of she was reading a lot, studying up on the legal stuff because her case is her main focus right now and Cindy comes back with your focus should be Caylee.  Go Cindy!!  Its obvious in this tape that KC doesn't give a rat's ass about Caylee and can't even pretend to.

Poor Cindy is all but falling apart sobbing and Casey makes fun of her????
And the dagger eyes she gives Casey when Casey chooses her dad for the personal visit? Oh man. This tape speaks volumes.


Hey Pegster! You are so right.  I also think that if C&G were still in denial and thought Caylee was still alive, they definetly knew after this visit that they would never see their granddaughter again  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 10:13:33 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.

I am a Pepsi addict too but would not turn away a Miller Light any day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:14:45 AM
That video provides ample opportunity for a warped mind like mine.  I think I'll have to try to restrain myself abit today.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/CaseyMad081408-1.jpg)

(http://th222.photobucket.com/albums/dd201/landlockedbjp/th_Laughing_Chimp.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:14:56 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.

Funny you say that JSM.  I'm actually leaving the office at noon, and am going to stop and grab a nine pack of Miller Lite and enjoy my Friday after noon in my warm house (and hopefully get some housework done too)   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 10:16:33 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.

Funny you say that JSM.  I'm actually leaving the office at noon, and am going to stop and grab a nine pack of Miller Lite and enjoy my Friday after noon in my warm house (and hopefully get some housework done too)   ::MonkeyWink:: 
A NINE pack, where in the world do you get a nine pack? Is it those fancy aluminum bottles?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:17:04 AM


I am a Pepsi addict too but would not turn away a Miller Light any day.
Never turn down Miller Lite! Neither will Leroy  ::MonkeyLaugh::
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Nope, not this Monkey   ::MonkeyWink:: 

It's my support group. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 10:17:34 AM
Boy, that tape was a real eye-opener, wasn't it? I bet Jose is kicking himself for requesting it! He thought they were hiding it on purpose because it helped the prosecution's case. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I was just appalled at how KC spoke to her parents. My mom would have ripped me a new one if I tried any of that with her! How does she get away with it?

Another thing that was repulsive was towards the end of the tape where she said something to the effect of she was reading a lot, studying up on the legal stuff because her case is her main focus right now and Cindy comes back with your focus should be Caylee.  Go Cindy!!  Its obvious in this tape that KC doesn't give a rat's ass about Caylee and can't even pretend to.

Poor Cindy is all but falling apart sobbing and Casey makes fun of her????
And the dagger eyes she gives Casey when Casey chooses her dad for the personal visit? Oh man. This tape speaks volumes.


The photo that makes me shiver is posted here
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18490360/detail.html

It's a slideshow from the tape.  Look at photo 10.  She has clenched teeth and seething anger in her eyes.  "Odious indeed!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:19:28 AM
A NINE pack, where in the world do you get a nine pack? Is it those fancy aluminum bottles?

Yes- they are the new aluminum bottles.  I love them except only get them once in a while as a *treat* because they are a bit expensive!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cherjers on January 16, 2009, 10:19:56 AM
#3 OMG, she's upset they had Chili without her!!!! Now she's quoting the bible!! Who the heck was this stranger they let in?? Wonder if it's someone still around?? Still talking about KC, and her well being and that she's eating. Uggghhhh. They're not talking about finding Caylee, it's barely about Caylee. Actually it's not about Caylee at all!!!!!!! I can't believe this, it's sickening!! How can they still support her????? Even to this day, now that she's been found. They have to know KC did it.

Now I'm falling behind again, good thing it's a little slower in the cage now!!

All of it was sickening, but the Bible quoting was just over the top..  She's murdered her child, and she has the ballz to quote scripture?   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Bible quoting-thou shall not KILL-If KC were my daughter I would have broken that commendment as soon as she was released on bail-and did not tell me.-   what happend to Caylee  I am sick of sweetie and hi beautiful- there is nothing she can tell them- I would have said then there is no reson for me to be here and if I were you I would stay in that jail until you are ready to talk-because when i get my hands on you sweetie -u wont be beautful anymore


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 10:21:07 AM
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

My mom got a Jeep last year and said the same thing.  I hate her driving so I always drive when we go anywhere so I have never witnessed the waving thing.  I thought she was just being goofy when she said this! LOL.
It was so wierd when I first got my Jeep.  I thought there was something wrong when I got my first wave.  My DH, who knows everything, told me about the custom. 

My sales guy told me about the "wave" and I thought he was nuts.  Didn't take me long to figure out he was right   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

You all must think you're driving a Boat!     They do that out on the water! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
What really stands out to me is such a master manipulator KC is.  All she does during this entire visit is reitterate how she has to get out of jail.  She lays such a guilt trip on her parents.

But according to L Padilla last night, she ALREADY KNEW that LP was on his way to bond her out.  She KNEW she was getting out, but had to put her parents through all of that just for her own selfish ego.

I found that very interesting as well. 

KNow what we know now, watching this "lost" video" sure does shed some light on things in a new way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
In the video Casey knows Caylee is already dead so she is extra focused on herself because you weave a tangled web with all the lies and it is probably "stressful" for her to keep up with everything and covering her azz at the same time. She is a piece of work isn't she?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JustMeT on January 16, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Boy, that tape was a real eye-opener, wasn't it? I bet Jose is kicking himself for requesting it! He thought they were hiding it on purpose because it helped the prosecution's case. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I was just appalled at how KC spoke to her parents. My mom would have ripped me a new one if I tried any of that with her! How does she get away with it?

Another thing that was repulsive was towards the end of the tape where she said something to the effect of she was reading a lot, studying up on the legal stuff because her case is her main focus right now and Cindy comes back with your focus should be Caylee.  Go Cindy!!  Its obvious in this tape that KC doesn't give a rat's ass about Caylee and can't even pretend to.

Poor Cindy is all but falling apart sobbing and Casey makes fun of her????
And the dagger eyes she gives Casey when Casey chooses her dad for the personal visit? Oh man. This tape speaks volumes.


The photo that makes me shiver is posted here
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18490360/detail.html

It's a slideshow from the tape.  Look at photo 10.  She has clenched teeth and seething anger in her eyes.  "Odious indeed!"

Indeed!! These pics and the video say IT ALL!!
That poor baby girl never had a fing chance.
I wish this bitch a very very violent death!!

I am, like the rest of you FUMING after seeing all that. Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 10:24:30 AM
I dont know how you other Monkey's feel about this, but I truly believe this will never see the inside of a courtroom.
I believe she will be forced to cut a deal if what Lee is involved in or the A's can be proved to have had knowledge Caylee was deceased prior to Dec.11, 2008.

I watched the video last night, jaw on the floor, then watched it again without the sound and focused solely on Cindy and George. These people knew that child was dead, at least Cindy for sure. Made me wanna hurl. There is no reasonable explanation for their ensuing behavior anyone is ever going to make sense to me.

These people are a scam, and this child sits in a a box, following a lengthy stay in a garbage bag in a swamp- it is maddening.

Kronk calls LE 8/11, 8/12, 8/13.. I do believe Kronk was unknowingly tipped off by someone knowingly and he did not find her then. (my piece on Kronk reward..)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/15/robin-hood-alive-in-orlando-mark-nejame-rewards-roy-kronk-5k/#more-6513)

The jailhouse video takes place on 8/14 the next day. If there were cops and the like in that area 3x 3 days in a row, isnt it reasonable to assume they at least heard of that if not "known" outright?

I hope the concsious fairy visits these people in short order, I dont know how much more of this I can stomach.

rant over, sorry ::MonkeyConfused::



awwww twin monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:24:46 AM
In the video Casey knows Caylee is already dead so she is extra focused on herself because you weave a tangled web with all the lies and it is probably "stressful" for her to keep up with everything and covering her azz at the same time. She is a piece of work isn't she?

And that is exactly why she doesn't want to talk to anyone that is going to drill her with questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:26:15 AM
What really stands out to me is such a master manipulator KC is.  All she does during this entire visit is reitterate how she has to get out of jail.  She lays such a guilt trip on her parents.

But according to L Padilla last night, she ALREADY KNEW that LP was on his way to bond her out.  She KNEW she was getting out, but had to put her parents through all of that just for her own selfish ego.

I found that very interesting as well. 

KNow what we know now, watching this "lost" video" sure does shed some light on things in a new way.

Speaking of "lost video", I never knew that there was one.  How was this tape lost and then all the sudden appears one day  ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 10:27:09 AM
That video provides ample opportunity for a warped mind like mine.  I think I'll have to try to restrain myself abit today.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/CaseyMad081408-1.jpg)

I love it CC !!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:27:47 AM
AS you know, we have no school today here due to the cold and snow.  My kids are sitting here in the office planning a birthday party for their stuffed animals, complete with a home made pinata.  My little man is making the invitations while my little lady is filling her pinata.  Watching the do this makes me sad that Caylee never had a mommy who let her do these things.  She never even had a chance.  It is just sad. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:28:55 AM
Know what y'all? I am going to go home tonight and make chili in celebration of Casey's not being able to have it. Yes, I am going to enjoy every last bite, while she eats cold PopTarts and pork rinds and beans or whatever the hell they feed the slore. Cyanide Slushies?

Enjoy the jail slop beyotch!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:29:09 AM
What really stands out to me is such a master manipulator KC is.  All she does during this entire visit is reitterate how she has to get out of jail.  She lays such a guilt trip on her parents.

But according to L Padilla last night, she ALREADY KNEW that LP was on his way to bond her out.  She KNEW she was getting out, but had to put her parents through all of that just for her own selfish ego.

I found that very interesting as well. 

KNow what we know now, watching this "lost" video" sure does shed some light on things in a new way.

Speaking of "lost video", I never knew that there was one.  How was this tape lost and then all the sudden appears one day  ::MonkeyConfused:: 

I think they said it was a clerical error that it wasn't release prior to this.  But man, it is great that we get to see it now huh?  IN light of everything else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JustMeT on January 16, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
In the video Casey knows Caylee is already dead so she is extra focused on herself because you weave a tangled web with all the lies and it is probably "stressful" for her to keep up with everything and covering her azz at the same time. She is a piece of work isn't she?

And that is exactly why she doesn't want to talk to anyone that is going to drill her with questions.
Exactly!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 10:29:54 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.

I am a Pepsi addict too but would not turn away a Miller Light any day.
Never turn down Miller Lite! Neither will Leroy  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Micelob Ultra Light for me!!     BTW - You guys were so funny last night!     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:31:40 AM
Know what y'all? I am going to go home tonight and make chili in celebration of Casey's not being able to have it. Yes, I am going to enjoy every last bite, while she eats cold PopTarts and pork rinds and beans or whatever the hell they feed the slore. Cyanide Slushies?

Enjoy the jail slop beyotch!!!!!!!

we had chili last night... ::MonkeyDance::

So, take THAT Casey...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 10:32:55 AM
Boy, that tape was a real eye-opener, wasn't it? I bet Jose is kicking himself for requesting it! He thought they were hiding it on purpose because it helped the prosecution's case. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I was just appalled at how KC spoke to her parents. My mom would have ripped me a new one if I tried any of that with her! How does she get away with it?

Another thing that was repulsive was towards the end of the tape where she said something to the effect of she was reading a lot, studying up on the legal stuff because her case is her main focus right now and Cindy comes back with your focus should be Caylee.  Go Cindy!!  Its obvious in this tape that KC doesn't give a rat's ass about Caylee and can't even pretend to.

Poor Cindy is all but falling apart sobbing and Casey makes fun of her????
And the dagger eyes she gives Casey when Casey chooses her dad for the personal visit? Oh man. This tape speaks volumes.


The photo that makes me shiver is posted here
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18490360/detail.html

It's a slideshow from the tape.  Look at photo 10.  She has clenched teeth and seething anger in her eyes.  "Odious indeed!"


Scary!   Big mistake on Baez's part - getting that video found and released.    Serves him right.    That video alone should put that Biotch away for good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:36:17 AM
AS you know, we have no school today here due to the cold and snow.  My kids are sitting here in the office planning a birthday party for their stuffed animals, complete with a home made pinata.  My little man is making the invitations while my little lady is filling her pinata.  Watching the do this makes me sad that Caylee never had a mommy who let her do these things.  She never even had a chance.  It is just sad. 

I think about stuff like that at times too, Perri...

I have a 5 year old..and she and I lie across the bed at night and color, or else we watch cartoons, and talk, etc....Its so sad ...I thought about it at Christmas too when my little one was having the time of her life opening things, etc...and how we made cookies...
Caylee deserved so much more.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:36:59 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:37:18 AM

Micelob Ultra Light for me!!     BTW - You guys were so funny last night!     ::MonkeyTongue::

That's not bad either!

Yea, after watching that video last night we needed some comic relief that's for sure.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:37:52 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:40:03 AM

Well, I personally drank some red wine curtesy of Lovin'Life last night!  THat sure helped me. 

Leroy,
I am so sorry!  Will you forgive me?  I gave Lovin' Life Credit for my wine when it was actually YOU!!!!!  I am soooo sorry!

PS.  Thanks again for the wine, it made me forget a lot of things!  Like that video! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:40:08 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:40:20 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

1337 it happened to me too and folks thought I'd done flipped my wig.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
What really stands out to me is such a master manipulator KC is.  All she does during this entire visit is reitterate how she has to get out of jail.  She lays such a guilt trip on her parents.

But according to L Padilla last night, she ALREADY KNEW that LP was on his way to bond her out.  She KNEW she was getting out, but had to put her parents through all of that just for her own selfish ego.

I found that very interesting as well. 

KNow what we know now, watching this "lost" video" sure does shed some light on things in a new way.

Speaking of "lost video", I never knew that there was one.  How was this tape lost and then all the sudden appears one day  ::MonkeyConfused:: 

I think they said it was a clerical error that it wasn't release prior to this.  But man, it is great that we get to see it now huh?  IN light of everything else?

I thought that that video had been shown before but I guess not. All her whiney, all about me cry sessions sound the same any way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:41:31 AM

Well, I personally drank some red wine curtesy of Lovin'Life last night!  THat sure helped me. 

Leroy,
I am so sorry!  Will you forgive me?  I gave Lovin' Life Credit for my wine when it was actually YOU!!!!!  I am soooo sorry!

PS.  Thanks again for the wine, it made me forget a lot of things!  Like that video! ::MonkeyHaHa::

please pass it over here ... Casey's "constipation face" will haunt me in nightmares.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 10:41:58 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: VinceVixen on January 16, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

1337 it happened to me too and folks thought I'd done flipped my wig.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Well... I'm guessing cuz in "computer geek" world, 1337 is code for LEET aka ELITE... cuz of the way it looks, 1 like an L 33 like EE and 7 like a T... just some computer messing around stuff....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:42:37 AM

Well, I personally drank some red wine curtesy of Lovin'Life last night!  THat sure helped me. 

Leroy,
I am so sorry!  Will you forgive me?  I gave Lovin' Life Credit for my wine when it was actually YOU!!!!!  I am soooo sorry!

PS.  Thanks again for the wine, it made me forget a lot of things!  Like that video! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh Perri, of course I forgive you  ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:44:08 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

1337 it happened to me too and folks thought I'd done flipped my wig.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::I am a monkey dumbass..LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 10:44:50 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 
I agree with you. He wanted to wash his hands of it. But his past with other cases hes been on, I don't know the details, only what I have read, it involves a little boy, I would like to ask him how he will ever redeem himself for that one. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:45:41 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

1337 it happened to me too and folks thought I'd done flipped my wig.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::I am a monkey dumbass..LOL

   ::MonkeyHaHa:: Well if you are then so am I    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:46:08 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I believe Leroy was just joking about a phrase our Aussie friend used. See look how innocent the doggy looks. Innocent little doggy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:47:22 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 
I agree with you. He wanted to wash his hands of it. But his past with other cases hes been on, I don't know the details, only what I have read, it involves a little boy, I would like to ask him how he will ever redeem himself for that one. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes.  I know.  I hope that this case changes the way he thinks about cases he takes in the future.  At this point, that is the one thing he can change.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:47:22 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I believe Leroy was just joking about a phrase our Aussie friend used. See look how innocent the doggy looks. Innocent little doggy.

Aww, thanks goodnmad   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:47:33 AM

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Hi SeaSearcher!! I see you up above! Hope you're having a better day today! (((MONKEY HUGS))) for you SS!  


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 10:48:12 AM
That video provides ample opportunity for a warped mind like mine.  I think I'll have to try to restrain myself abit today.

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  Love it! Great captions.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:48:45 AM

Well, I personally drank some red wine curtesy of Lovin'Life last night!  THat sure helped me. 

Leroy,
I am so sorry!  Will you forgive me?  I gave Lovin' Life Credit for my wine when it was actually YOU!!!!!  I am soooo sorry!

PS.  Thanks again for the wine, it made me forget a lot of things!  Like that video! ::MonkeyHaHa::

please pass it over here ... Casey's "constipation face" will haunt me in nightmares.

Unfortunately there is just  little bit left.   ::MonkeyTongue::  But I will share what I have!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:48:57 AM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?

I thought I would bring this forward for those that did not see it.  I think Mig may be right   ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I believe Leroy was just joking about a phrase our Aussie friend used. See look how innocent the doggy looks. Innocent little doggy.

Aww, thanks goodnmad    

 ::MonkeyWink:: Well, I admit it really doesn't sound very pleasant ... we need an Aussie interpreter!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:50:08 AM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:51:07 AM

 ::MonkeyWink:: Well, I admit it really doesn't sound very pleasant ... we need an Aussie interpreter!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I agree it doesn't sound good.  In fact, I was afraid to google it at first   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:51:12 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

1337 it happened to me too and folks thought I'd done flipped my wig.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


LEET   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:51:17 AM
hey yall..maybe this will help us...LOL

http://www.aussieslang.com/slang/australian-slang-a.asp

I still dont know what crock the shits means, though...LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:51:53 AM
Hi Everyone

On JVM, Kathi B said that she would have the copies of the search warrant on the A's home next week....so I guess that's when the document dump will be?

I thought I would bring this forward for those that did not see it.  I think Mig may be right   ::MonkeyDance:: 


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Found this quote about truth and I think it applies to George and Cindy

Bertrand Russell:
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.


They want to believe what they want to believe until ABSOLUTE proof is given.  I think when they sit at trial and hear all the evidence against Casey, they will hear and then LATER (maybe much later), believe.  Especially if her finger prints are on the duct tape. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 10:53:27 AM
Obsessed with Pepsi? That's funny. I am obsessed with Dr Pepper!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ah, but do you have a shrine to Dr Pepper?  ::MonkeyWink::  (You'd get a good chuckle out of this guy's can collection.. not to mention posters, jackets, etc...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
No Shrine to Dr Pepper, but I am working on a shrine to Miller Lite!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Me too!  ::MonkeyCool::
Miller Lite is the bestest Leroy. OK, I have to get to work, I will be lurking, but not posting. Have a good warm morning Monkeys. Leroy stay away from the beer until this afternoon.

I am a Pepsi addict too but would not turn away a Miller Light any day.
Never turn down Miller Lite! Neither will Leroy  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Micelob Ultra Light for me!!     BTW - You guys were so funny last night!     ::MonkeyTongue::
That's pretty good. Leroy was funny! I want beer and chili for supper tonight. Forget the pizza!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 16, 2009, 10:53:38 AM
Okay Guys, if anyone has ANY doubt that Casey Anthony is a SOCIOPATH at this point; Please read the following! She is absolutely textbook! All of these defining terms are interchangeable: sociopath/psychopath/anti-social personality. if you have not read the book: "The Sociopath Nextdoor" & want to completely understand the mind of a sociopath; PLEASE DO SO! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From page 107. After listening for almost 25 years to the stories my patients tell me about sociopaths who have invaded and injured their lives, when I am asked, "How can I tell whom not to trust?" the answer I give usually surprises people. The natural expectation is that I will describe some sinister-sounding detail of behavior or snippet of body language or threatening use of language that is the subtle give-away. Instead, I take people aback by assuring them that the tip-off is none of these things, for none of these things is reliably present. Rather, the best clue is, of all things, THE PITY PLAY. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, PERVERSELY, an appeal to our sympathy.



She goes on to talk about a sociopath she interviewed, asking "What is important in your life?" "What do you want more than anything else?" He told her without a moment's hesitation, "Oh, that's easy. What I like better than anything else is when people feel sorry for me. The thing I really want more than anything else out of life is people's pity."
She was astonished & mystified; Why would this man--why would anyone--wish to be pitied, let alone wish to be pitied ABOVE ALL OTHER AMBITIONS? She came to this conclusion:

From page 108. I realize there is an excellent reason for the sociopathic fondness for PITY. As obvious as the nose on one's face, and just as difficult to see without the help of a mirror, the explanation is THAT GOOD PEOPLE WILL LET PATHETIC INDIVIDUALS GETBY WITH MURDER, so to speak, and therefore any ETsociopath wishing to continue with his game, whatever it happens to be, should play repeatedly for none other than PITY.

More than admiration--more even than fear--pity from good people is carte blanche. When we pity, we are, at least for the moment, defenseless, and like so many of the other essentially positive human characteristics that bind us together in groups--social and professional roles, sexual bonds, regard for the compassionate and the creative, respect for our leaders--our emotional vunerability when we pity is USED AGAINST US BY THOSE WHO HAVE NO CONSCIENCE.
Pity and sympathy are forces for good when they are reactions to deserving people who have fallen on misfortune. But when these sentiments are wrested out of us by the undeserving, by people whose behavior is consistently anti-social, this is a sure sign that something is wrong, a potentially useful DANGER SIGNAL THAT WE OFTEN OVERLOOK.

She gives examples: The violent husband who batters his wife & then moans & cries that he is a poor wretch & cannot control himself & needs her forgiveness. From the Nazi death camps, some guards wanted sympathy for having to endure the "smell" and had difficulty eating their lunch! One man wanted sympathy because he was forced to "break someone's arm"
A good CASEY related ex.: A woman in prison, complained society was preventing her from taking proper care of her children; she was executed for the grisly murder of an elderly woman.

From page 109. In retrospect, sociopathic appeals for pity are preposterous and chilling. Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. AND ALL IN ALL, I AM SURE THAT IF THE DEVIL EXISTED, HEWOULD WANT US TO FEEL VERY SORRY FOR HIM.HE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 10:53:43 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

 


PW, this whole case is crazy and nothing nor anybody makes sense, at least to us "normal" monkeys.  We can't think like them, but here's a crazy scenario.

What "if" Nejame gave the money to Kronk just to PO the As's.

Nejame was knowledgeable about the As's thoughts and plans.  He knew their games.  Once Kronk found Caylee's remains, the Hollywood life the As's planned on living came to an abrupt halt.  SinCin had claimed the $5,000 was hers, and now it is property of the man who shot down their new-found life style and any hope of saving KC, not that I think that really matters to them anymore.  You know this has to just stick in SinCin's crawl, and I'm sure that Nejame is laughing his fanny off.

Does this make any sense.  Maybe I best go make some breakfast and get some coffee before I post anything else.    ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:53:55 AM

 ::MonkeyWink:: Well, I admit it really doesn't sound very pleasant ... we need an Aussie interpreter!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I agree it doesn't sound good.  In fact, I was afraid to google it at first   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

No way, no how, not even at home would I google that. I'd be afraid for my eyes!!!  ::MonkeyEek::

Your doggy is too cute BTW. I love those ears.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:55:11 AM
Found this quote about truth and I think it applies to George and Cindy

Bertrand Russell:
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.


They want to believe what they want to believe until ABSOLUTE proof is given.  I think when they sit at trial and hear all the evidence against Casey, they will hear and then LATER (maybe much later), believe.  Especially if her finger prints are on the duct tape. 

That is interesting.  Thanks Perri.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:55:51 AM
Found this quote about truth and I think it applies to George and Cindy

Bertrand Russell:
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.


They want to believe what they want to believe until ABSOLUTE proof is given.  I think when they sit at trial and hear all the evidence against Casey, they will hear and then LATER (maybe much later), believe.  Especially if her finger prints are on the duct tape. 

Great quote. And it is true for them I believe.

That kind of goes along with a current personal situation for me. iIneed to give that one some thought. Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:55:59 AM

Good Morning (http://th127.photobucket.com/albums/p153/sarahpage_01/th_BOO.gif) if you're still here!
Has anyone seen SeaSearcher?? Are you here SS?? Hope all is better today.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Good Morning QM...I'm all behind and being quite unsociable....sorry...too much going on this morning, every time I sit down to try and catch up, I get interupted..only 6 more pages to go..kids are home, school water pipes all busted, we hit -28 this morning..but things are looking up..it's almost -5 now..

Welcome to all the New Monkeys, Bunnys, Kittys and other assorted critters !!!!!

Back to reading, I'm probably 8 pages behind now  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 10:56:38 AM
http://www.harryc.com/australian-slang.htm

I found it....LOLOLOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
http://www.harryc.com/australian-slang.htm

I found it....LOLOLOL

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:57:57 AM
Monken... thanks that was very informative, and it explains Casey very well during the jail visit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 10:58:39 AM
http://www.harryc.com/australian-slang.htm

I found it....LOLOLOL

Dang y'all, that pretty much sums up my general disposition. I guess I need to change my user name to that!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:58:48 AM
REMINDER - The Caylee forum is usually pretty busy all day. Please try and stay on topic.  Take off topic chit chat to Musings or the appropriate thread. 

THANKS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 10:59:02 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............


To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:59:03 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

 


PW, this whole case is crazy and nothing nor anybody makes sense, at least to us "normal" monkeys.  We can't think like them, but here's a crazy scenario.

What "if" Nejame gave the money to Kronk just to PO the As's.

Nejame was knowledgeable about the As's thoughts and plans.  He knew their games.  Once Kronk found Caylee's remains, the Hollywood life the As's planned on living came to an abrupt halt.  SinCin had claimed the $5,000 was hers, and now it is property of the man who shot down their new-found life style and any hope of saving KC, not that I think that really matters to them anymore.  You know this has to just stick in SinCin's crawl, and I'm sure that Nejame is laughing his fanny off.

Does this make any sense.  Maybe I best go make some breakfast and get some coffee before I post anything else.    ::MonkeyConfused::

And what better way to PO the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: texanne on January 16, 2009, 11:00:35 AM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK


My 2 year old daughter has had a terrible cough for the past week.  Nothing I've given her has helped.  I tried the vicks thing and it really helped!!!!!!!   She only coughed twice during the whole night!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 11:00:40 AM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!

I've been out with a bout of pneumonia.  It's good to see you, anothermonkey.


I finally felt well enough to log on and try to catch up on Caylee's case.  And I see Leroy's post, which I don't care if it's Aussie, Zimbabwean, or whatever, but I find it inappropriate for this thread.  We all engage in a certain amount of ot, discussing children, pets and etc.  And Leroy, you were the one whining last week about only certain people can go OT.  It isn't which posters, it's subject matter.  Leroy, that "crack sh*t" stuff doesn't belong on this thread. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
I just watched the video from 8-14.   All I can say is G & C have been too easy on her.  They should have been yelling at her to tell the truth for once in her life.  They shouldn't have been thanking her for seeing them.  They should have quit kissing her a$$ like she's doing them some big favor.  They should of told her she's a selfish biotch.  I could go on and on.

Except that then she might not ever let them visit again. It IS up to her what visitors she sees. She doesn't ever have to  talk to them again if she doesn't want to, and so yes, they have to thank her for seeing them. They have to kiss her ass if they want access to her at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 11:02:40 AM
Umm..does anyone know why it says "leet" for my post count??? ::MonkeyEek::

Be happy it doesn't say "crack the shits"   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Good morning.  And that doesn't sound very nice, Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
Muffy where have you been. I have been so worried about you. I'm glad you are back. JSM  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 11:03:13 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

 


PW, this whole case is crazy and nothing nor anybody makes sense, at least to us "normal" monkeys.  We can't think like them, but here's a crazy scenario.

What "if" Nejame gave the money to Kronk just to PO the As's.

Nejame was knowledgeable about the As's thoughts and plans.  He knew their games.  Once Kronk found Caylee's remains, the Hollywood life the As's planned on living came to an abrupt halt.  SinCin had claimed the $5,000 was hers, and now it is property of the man who shot down their new-found life style and any hope of saving KC, not that I think that really matters to them anymore.  You know this has to just stick in SinCin's crawl, and I'm sure that Nejame is laughing his fanny off.

Does this make any sense.  Maybe I best go make some breakfast and get some coffee before I post anything else.    ::MonkeyConfused::


Golden Oldie, it makes perfect sense to me.  I think Cindy has the attitude that if anybody makes money off of my granddaughter's death, it's gonna be me!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 11:03:19 AM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!

I've been out with a bout of pneumonia.  It's good to see you, anothermonkey.


I finally felt well enough to log on and try to catch up on Caylee's case.  And I see Leroy's post, which I don't care if it's Aussie, Zimbabwean, or whatever, but I find it inappropriate for this thread.  We all engage in a certain amount of ot, discussing children, pets and etc.  And Leroy, you were the one whining last week about only certain people can go OT.  It isn't which posters, it's subject matter.  Leroy, that "crack sh*t" stuff doesn't belong on this thread. 

I'm glad you're feeling better Muffy.

Behave everyone and stay safe  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 11:05:37 AM
Okie dokie, think positive thoughts ... time for a little time away from the boards. Talk to you monkeys another day. Everyone have a good weekend.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 11:06:48 AM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!

I've been out with a bout of pneumonia.  It's good to see you, anothermonkey.


I finally felt well enough to log on and try to catch up on Caylee's case.  And I see Leroy's post, which I don't care if it's Aussie, Zimbabwean, or whatever, but I find it inappropriate for this thread.  We all engage in a certain amount of ot, discussing children, pets and etc.  And Leroy, you were the one whining last week about only certain people can go OT.  It isn't which posters, it's subject matter.  Leroy, that "crack sh*t" stuff doesn't belong on this thread. 
I'm sorry you were sick, glad you feel somewhat better, missed you on the forum. Take care


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 11:09:13 AM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

 


PW, this whole case is crazy and nothing nor anybody makes sense, at least to us "normal" monkeys.  We can't think like them, but here's a crazy scenario.

What "if" Nejame gave the money to Kronk just to PO the As's.

Nejame was knowledgeable about the As's thoughts and plans.  He knew their games.  Once Kronk found Caylee's remains, the Hollywood life the As's planned on living came to an abrupt halt.  SinCin had claimed the $5,000 was hers, and now it is property of the man who shot down their new-found life style and any hope of saving KC, not that I think that really matters to them anymore.  You know this has to just stick in SinCin's crawl, and I'm sure that Nejame is laughing his fanny off.

Does this make any sense.  Maybe I best go make some breakfast and get some coffee before I post anything else.    ::MonkeyConfused::

And what better way to PO the Anthonys.

No Rose, you hit it squarely on the head.  And I personally just love it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 16, 2009, 11:10:52 AM
Got more to post but Hubby needs the puter' BBL!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 11:10:59 AM
Hi JSM  ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDance::

I see there is something about a video released.  Looks like I need to do some catch up reading and check for new developments...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?
I don't remember this at all, could be though. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: texanne on January 16, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 11:14:16 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............


To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.

I can't speak for Luckycharms, but I can say that honestly Casey's problem isn't a lack of discipline, it's a lack of conscience. Stricter punishments would have made her a meaner person towards others, and stricter towards her daughter, but they would not have instilled a conscience in her.

Everyone is assuming that because Casey's parents didn't punish her much as an adult, that they didn't punish her as a child, but that doesn't follow at all.  If there hadn't been some pretty stiff and certain punishments in the beginning, Casey would never have learned to lie at all. 

Kids lie to escape punishment. If there's no punishment, then they'll just say "yes, I broke that glass." or whatever. Casey learned to lie to get out being punished. She may also have learned to imitate Cindy's way of lying to protect the family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 11:14:20 AM
Hi JSM  ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDance::

I see there is something about a video released.  Looks like I need to do some catch up reading and check for new developments...


Hi Muffy, If you are not well, I would recommend NOT watching the video.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: It made my blood boil last night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 11:14:46 AM
http://www.harryc.com/australian-slang.htm

I found it....LOLOLOL

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  Not appropriate for this thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 11:17:47 AM
Monken thanks for the Sociopath stuff.  Good to think about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 16, 2009, 11:17:54 AM
Thanks for the comic rellief this morning Casual!

You're welcome.  Happy Friday and have a great weekend. ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:18:03 AM

I wanted to know what a dunny is also.  Lucinda needs to give us an Aussie - English dictionary!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

A dunny is the same as a loo I believe...hope that helps  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
Monken thanks for the Sociopath stuff.  Good to think about.

Also Iron Cowgirl and Luck Charms Princess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 11:18:50 AM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!

I've been out with a bout of pneumonia.  It's good to see you, anothermonkey.



I'm glad you're feeling well enough to post.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:19:18 AM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

Welcome Texanne - it's hard to listen to her isn't it.  Actually hard to listen to all of them, especially now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 11:19:49 AM
Okay Guys, if anyone has ANY doubt that Casey Anthony is a SOCIOPATH at this point; Please read the following! She is absolutely textbook! All of these defining terms are interchangeable: sociopath/psychopath/anti-social personality. if you have not read the book: "The Sociopath Nextdoor" & want to completely understand the mind of a sociopath; PLEASE DO SO! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From page 107. After listening for almost 25 years to the stories my patients tell me about sociopaths who have invaded and injured their lives, when I am asked, "How can I tell whom not to trust?" the answer I give usually surprises people. The natural expectation is that I will describe some sinister-sounding detail of behavior or snippet of body language or threatening use of language that is the subtle give-away. Instead, I take people aback by assuring them that the tip-off is none of these things, for none of these things is reliably present. Rather, the best clue is, of all things, THE PITY PLAY. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, PERVERSELY, an appeal to our sympathy.



She goes on to talk about a sociopath she interviewed, asking "What is important in your life?" "What do you want more than anything else?" He told her without a moment's hesitation, "Oh, that's easy. What I like better than anything else is when people feel sorry for me. The thing I really want more than anything else out of life is people's pity."
She was astonished & mystified; Why would this man--why would anyone--wish to be pitied, let alone wish to be pitied ABOVE ALL OTHER AMBITIONS? She came to this conclusion:

From page 108. I realize there is an excellent reason for the sociopathic fondness for PITY. As obvious as the nose on one's face, and just as difficult to see without the help of a mirror, the explanation is THAT GOOD PEOPLE WILL LET PATHETIC INDIVIDUALS GETBY WITH MURDER, so to speak, and therefore any ETsociopath wishing to continue with his game, whatever it happens to be, should play repeatedly for none other than PITY.

More than admiration--more even than fear--pity from good people is carte blanche. When we pity, we are, at least for the moment, defenseless, and like so many of the other essentially positive human characteristics that bind us together in groups--social and professional roles, sexual bonds, regard for the compassionate and the creative, respect for our leaders--our emotional vunerability when we pity is USED AGAINST US BY THOSE WHO HAVE NO CONSCIENCE.
Pity and sympathy are forces for good when they are reactions to deserving people who have fallen on misfortune. But when these sentiments are wrested out of us by the undeserving, by people whose behavior is consistently anti-social, this is a sure sign that something is wrong, a potentially useful DANGER SIGNAL THAT WE OFTEN OVERLOOK.

She gives examples: The violent husband who batters his wife & then moans & cries that he is a poor wretch & cannot control himself & needs her forgiveness. From the Nazi death camps, some guards wanted sympathy for having to endure the "smell" and had difficulty eating their lunch! One man wanted sympathy because he was forced to "break someone's arm"
A good CASEY related ex.: A woman in prison, complained society was preventing her from taking proper care of her children; she was executed for the grisly murder of an elderly woman.

From page 109. In retrospect, sociopathic appeals for pity are preposterous and chilling. Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. AND ALL IN ALL, I AM SURE THAT IF THE DEVIL EXISTED, HEWOULD WANT US TO FEEL VERY SORRY FOR HIM.HE

Absolutely chilling.  Makes me think of Ted Bundy.  He would often use crutches and seem defenseless, because most good people are compelled to help someone in need.  It just seems so crazy that such a girl-next-door looking woman like Casey could be homicidal, but everyone thought Ted Bundy was a very attractive and charming man, he just had that unsightly homicidal urge problem...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 11:20:29 AM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

I totally thought the same thing.  And all she got was "that figures".   Casey should have said something like "Mom, we know that isn't true. Don't let comments like that get you down. Caylee is alive!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 11:21:36 AM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 11:21:42 AM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?

GP - I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure when it happened.    My first thought is that it was right before Tim got there the first time to help.  But, I'm not sure what that date is, either.    Wish I could help more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:22:00 AM
((edit - Aussie slang is not the topic here))

I found it....LOLOLOL

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  Not appropriate for this thread.


Muffy is right.  Aussie slang should not be the topic here.  We could start a thread in the Monkey Lounge for Aussie slang, that might be fun!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 11:24:49 AM
Monken - Luckycharm -   Your posts are really great and informative.

Also, many of you monkeys have given insightful opinions and facts.   Thanks!

Gotta go make a roast for my dear old parents (in their 80s), BBL.    Stay Warm!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 11:27:16 AM
 texanne
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 11:27:49 AM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?
I read the NG scripts this am and there was an expert on there who said LE should really think if the want Lee to have immunity. He said the problem if he does is he could get on the stand and say he killed Caylee and there would be nothing they could do about it. There goes the Casey did it. I don't think Lee would sacrifice his future though (job wise mainly) to do that but he brought up a good point.

I say "no" to all of them. Evdience will speak volumes no matter how many experts they have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 11:28:01 AM
Hi JSM  ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDance::

I see there is something about a video released.  Looks like I need to do some catch up reading and check for new developments...




Muffy, I'm so glad to see you back and to hear that you're feeling better.  YOU WERE MISSED!    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 11:29:32 AM
Hi JSM  ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDance::

I see there is something about a video released.  Looks like I need to do some catch up reading and check for new developments...




Muffy, I'm so glad to see you're back and to hear that you're feeling better.  YOU WERE MISSED!    ::MonkeyTongue::
   (Self-edited.  Guess that the breakfast hasn't kicked-in, yet.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 11:30:35 AM
MUFFY!!!!! It is SO good to see you!! I sent you a message along with my sigh of relief!  ::MonkeyWink::

The video will only confirm everything you feel about Casey. I'm not sure it's good therapy for a recovering monkey!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 11:33:25 AM
Almost done with the video ... I think I'm going to be sick. She "chose Dad" for the visits b/c he won't ask questions. He will not put the focus on Caylee. Cindy is badgering her in an effort to get to the truth -- unsuccessfully. And Casey is one cold, cold bitch.

She murdered her child and now she wants to throw a little hissy fit because she's "all alone" in jail. Her family is eating chili witohut her. Oh, boo hoo hooty hoo. Cry me a friggin river, Casey.  :smt091 :smt091 :smt091 :smt097 :smt097 :smt097

oh, on a nicer note -- morning monkeys! My monkey tail is just now thawing out!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Happy FRIIIIIDAY!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

Goodnmad, I've missed you (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((this much and more)))))))))))))))))))).  Good to "see" you again!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 11:33:48 AM
I just watched the video from 8-14.   All I can say is G & C have been too easy on her.  They should have been yelling at her to tell the truth for once in her life.  They shouldn't have been thanking her for seeing them.  They should have quit kissing her a$$ like she's doing them some big favor.  They should of told her she's a selfish biotch.  I could go on and on.
I so agree with what you said!!  She's controlling them in the situation totally! They know if they confront her that she'll have nothing more to do with them and they don't want to lose their daughter now too.  IMO I think Baez stopped the visits knowing that it was getting close to a possible confrontation with Casey and her parents and her breaking down on camera.  He knows that LE would put DP on the table and he'd then not having anything to go on! 

Brandi-have any ideas for my avatar and Valentines?  Tks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:34:36 AM
Monken - Luckycharm -   Your posts are really great and informative.

Also, many of you monkeys have given insightful opinions and facts.   Thanks!

Gotta go make a roast for my dear old parents (in their 80s), BBL.    Stay Warm!   

I'm finally caught up ! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

These were long but very good posts..I'd just like to add Iron Cowgirl to that list..

Klaas & Muffy (good to see you back) sorry for the dunny post..I made it before I saw yours..nuff said  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::




Tex, during that part of the conversation, weren't SinCin and KC talking about the false rumors being spread by the media.  I just took it as KC verbally thinking that it was another media lie.  When she made that comment "that figures," to me, the tone of her voice didn't send-up any red flags about her drowning Caylee.  But, that's just my opinion, and I've been wrong many times in the past. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 11:37:06 AM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?

GP - I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure when it happened.    My first thought is that it was right before Tim got there the first time to help.  But, I'm not sure what that date is, either.    Wish I could help more.

Thank you, Sassycat.  Found what I was looking for with your help (telling me it was just before Tim pulled into town.)

8/28/08 George Anthony departed from his home just after 6 a.m. He pulled out of his driveway, and another person in the car could not be identified.

So this is probably unrelated to the birthday visitor.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 11:39:35 AM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?

I hate to think of it as LA throwing KC under the bus (though I know what you mean), but I think KC has put herself under the bus. The problem though is she's trying to lie her way out of being under that bus, and her & G&C's lawyers are throwing OTHER PEOPLE under the bus just to keep KC from being under there! That's the part that's killing me. Maybe, just maybe, if some or one of the A's could give us some truth (because KC won't), then KC will finally get run over by that dang bus already!! I'm just so tired of seeing and hearing how all these other people are suspicious, the ficticious nanny, LP, the Grunds, KC's friends, the meter reader, everyone but KC they are trying to get under that bus at one time or another.
Enough already, put the right person under that bus!! (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif) (http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/gg149/autumn59/th_bus.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ccndixie on January 16, 2009, 11:40:23 AM
Just got through with the video....didn't think I could feel any stronger hate for KC, but obviously I was wrong.  This has been commented on already, but seeing that hateful, twisted face and those cold shark's eyes -- I hope and pray that was not the last thing that sweet angel saw before she was carried away, but in all probability it is.  And she probably had seen it many times before. 
Let's arrest 'em all including DC, and go to trial tomorrow with what LE has now.  Not sure how much more of this pure evil I can take!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 11:41:41 AM
morning monkeys? still not caught up but wanted to visit before i have to our closing. just wondering if this had been discussed, first KC said she had the worst day ever on Caylee's birthday, & read her bible all day, then she tells Cindy that she is not allowed to have her bible, so did she have another bible. maybe one she got from the jail? sorry, if this has been answered, hubby wanted dinner AGAIN last nite & couln't get caught up. tia.

by the way i'm sooooo cold.

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
With the risk of going OT and getting banned, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the latest jail visit. 

What popped into my mind after watching it...I did finally get sound BTW...is my mom's favorite words of "Becareful what you wish for! You just might get it!".

It seems to me that JB has done it again...proven that he is ill prepared to represent KC and in way over his head. 

Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?

GP - I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure when it happened.    My first thought is that it was right before Tim got there the first time to help.  But, I'm not sure what that date is, either.    Wish I could help more.

Thank you, Sassycat.  Found what I was looking for with your help (telling me it was just before Tim pulled into town.)

8/28/08 George Anthony departed from his home just after 6 a.m. He pulled out of his driveway, and another person in the car could not be identified.

So this is probably unrelated to the birthday visitor.

I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
Hi JSM  ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDance::

I see there is something about a video released.  Looks like I need to do some catch up reading and check for new developments...



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 11:45:17 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: Welcome ccndixie!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

It is a pleasure to have you here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?
I read the NG scripts this am and there was an expert on there who said LE should really think if the want Lee to have immunity. He said the problem if he does is he could get on the stand and say he killed Caylee and there would be nothing they could do about it. There goes the Casey did it. I don't think Lee would sacrifice his future though (job wise mainly) to do that but he brought up a good point.

I say "no" to all of them. Evdience will speak volumes no matter how many experts they have.

I just cannot imagine what Lee could tell that is not already known.  In order for the prosecution to even think about subpoenaing Lee (thus giving him use immunity) they would have to know what he was going to testify too.  If they know that and there is something prosecutable, then if they have proof other than Lee's testimony, they can still prosecute him.

It's interesting that the only person that is using the word "immunity" is Luka, Lee's attorney.  No on from the prosecutors office has said anything about immunity.

IMHO, there is no way that the prosecution or AG will give blanket immunity to anyone involved in this case.  And another hmmmm for me is, why is the FBI still involved?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:45:56 AM

Goodnmad, I've missed you (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((this much and more)))))))))))))))))))).  Good to "see" you again!

Karen

Mornin' Sparky !!    Ready ?? 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Hope your feelin' good today !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 16, 2009, 11:47:28 AM
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/rights.jpg)

"Well, you see your Honor, my dad said I was
like the boss of a corporation.  Yeah, he really
comes up with some obtuse analogies." 

My pinkie represents my brother Lee, the
Internal Audit/Investigation department.

My ring finger, that would be all the Tonies
I've dated, the Customer Relations department.

My pointer finger would be my lawyer Jose,
the Accounting department, as there is no
accounting for my taste in representation.

My thumb obviously and absolutely is my
clueless father George, the Payroll department.
Even though he has his thumb up his arse at
times, he really comes through with those
donations to my commissary account.

My middle finger, well that's me, the Marketing
department.  I am selling this to you and are
you buying this load of crap?"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 11:47:59 AM
Know that I have wireless internet I am getting to watch the tapes of interviews and I just finished Lee and Casey from July25 & 28. On the very beginning of the 25th he was informing her how everything is recorded they say, he is telling her she can write letters to them and put them through the court mail and they won't be looked at(?) and he is warning her about if she gives JB letters he has the power (1) to read them (2) to not give them to the family if he doesn't want to.
Not only do they talk in code but he is very manipulative in the questions and warning her how she answers them on tape. Wow...must run in the family.

One thing he started to ask on 1st tape and he never followed up on so probably wrote letter or when she was home on bail and that is she said she had just opened a bank account up at Wachovia. He asked what the purpose of the account was for so IMO he definitely knew she wasn't working so why would she need an account? Of course we all know it was probably to put all that stolen money in.

Knowing what we know now on this case I just find these people more disturbing to watch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 11:48:33 AM

To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.


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I can't speak for Luckycharms, but I can say that honestly Casey's problem isn't a lack of discipline, it's a lack of conscience. Stricter punishments would have made her a meaner person towards others, and stricter towards her daughter, but they would not have instilled a conscience in her.

Everyone is assuming that because Casey's parents didn't punish her much as an adult, that they didn't punish her as a child, but that doesn't follow at all.  If there hadn't been some pretty stiff and certain punishments in the beginning, Casey would never have learned to lie at all. 

Kids lie to escape punishment. If there's no punishment, then they'll just say "yes, I broke that glass." or whatever. Casey learned to lie to get out being punished. She may also have learned to imitate Cindy's way of lying to protect the family.


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Fuzz, IMO, I don't think it's so much the lack of punishment that encouraged KC to continue with her lies and charades, but rather the fact that her parents were encouraging her misbehavior by covering for her lies, stealing, etc. rather than making her responsible for her own actions.   This even goes back to her childhood when CinCin went to a party and repremanded children for not play nicely with KC.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 11:48:49 AM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 11:49:51 AM

I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO

It's bizarre.  I can't imagine with everything happening, that they would let a stranger into their home (on Caylee's birthday, no less) because he was alone and had nowhere to go.  One of my first thoughts was that this guy was a "spy" of sorts (for media or whoever)..  but then when George mentioned it, Casey didn't ask him anything about it.. like it was the most natural thing in the world for a complete stranger to show up for dinner.  ::MonkeyConfused::  Maybe she didn't ask because she knew their conversation had a time constraint and she didn't want to waste minutes talking about it.. knowing myself, I totally would have asked for more information.  But then she did say that the bible tells them to do that kind of thing.. which made it all the more strange. As if Casey was all that close with God or something.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 11:50:52 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::Welcome Texanne!!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

It's a pleasure to have you here too. (sorry I missed you earlier)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:52:46 AM
morning monkeys? still not caught up but wanted to visit before i have to our closing. just wondering if this had been discussed, first KC said she had the worst day ever on Caylee's birthday, & read her bible all day, then she tells Cindy that she is not allowed to have her bible, so did she have another bible. maybe one she got from the jail? sorry, if this has been answered, hubby wanted dinner AGAIN last nite & couln't get caught up. tia.

by the way i'm sooooo cold.

wendi

Mornin' Wendi.... saw your post yesterday and Thanks

What happened to you ? you not only change clothes, you changed species  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe I missed it but I didn't even hear them refer to it as Caylee's Birthday...George just said "last Saturday"  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Many contradictions in the video..when we get a transcript..I'm sure the monkeys will list them all out  ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?




I'm still wondering/hoping that LE has enough evidence, without any info from LA, to convict KC. 

I still want to see the rest of the As's go down with KC.  They have known the truth from the start, other than where KC trashed Caylee's body.  And, that's what I think the As's were sort of trying to get out of KC during the Aug. jail visit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: strayze on January 16, 2009, 11:55:06 AM
For those who have been as curious as me about Vicks on the bottom of the feet to prevent coughs, here are my unscientific tests results:

Since Monday I've had fits of coughing day and night with this cold.  Have been coughing so hard my ribs hurt now.  When I was awakened the second time last night because of coughing, I rubbed a generous amount of Vicks onto the bottom of each foot, and pulled on a pair of socks over that to protect my sheets.  Went back to sleep, slept for 7 hours straight, NO coughing! 

It works!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Sooooo today I hopped online to find out WHY it works.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Seems that the area under each foot is connected to all the other areas of our body.  You can see a diagram in this website about 'reflexology':  http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp (http://www.tcmadvisory.com/Reflexology.asp)  In that diagram, there's an area near the mid upper part under our foot that pertains to the lungs.  Am betting that with Vicks on that corresponding area, that's how it stops the coughs.  Hmmmm..

Same thing holds true with releasing toxins from our body.  The following site also has a diagram of the bottom of a foot, and shows how toxins can be pulled from the corresponding areas of our body with a pad placed under the feet at night.  http://www.bodypurenow.com/ (http://www.bodypurenow.com/)

Dunno how either of the above works exactly, just letting you know that the Vicks worked for me.  Looking forward to an entire night of sleeping with no coughing tonight.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks to those who first told us about this!    ::MonkeyDance::


That would be me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad you gave it a try!!Thanks for being  brave enough to try it!! Just awesome!!Now I will send back an email to the original sender and let her know it really does work!!!Hope you are at 100 percent soon..Hugs

It also helps when you ELEVATE your head.  With a couple of pillows.


Morning Gramamonkey. Very good advice about the pillows.Be sure to get some of Quietmonkey's coffe. She's probably already had enough.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I love the smell of the menthol in VICKS.  But really, the VICKS treatment would never pass the test of clinical trials as doing anything for a cold itself.  Chicken soup might be a great alternative, provided it is not salt-laden.  i.e. provided it's made of chicken broth without the loads of salt added to most canned soups.  Good hydration obtained by any means (save for alcoholic drinks) is therapeutic to the cold sufferer.  Salt defeats hydration.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO

I'm not sure there was a visitor either.  When listening to the tapes last night I found it VERY odd to invite someone new over to the house when you are supposedly getting death threats!  But I remembered the early morning departure by George and wanted to know if they coincided with each other

On a side note, know that prayers are offered for your loved ones.  May I suggest DanActive Immunity for your little one.  It helps put the intestinal tract in order.  Can be found in the dairy section of your grocery store. Packages of 4 or 8 three ounce size servings (vanilla, strawberry, peach, blueberry). Tastes like  'liquid cheesecake'. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 11:57:47 AM
With the risk of going OT and getting banned, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the latest jail visit. 

What popped into my mind after watching it...I did finally get sound BTW...is my mom's favorite words of "Becareful what you wish for! You just might get it!".

It seems to me that JB has done it again...proven that he is ill prepared to represent KC and in way over his head. 

Lovin
An

Lovinlife ~ Your post is not OT in the least.    ::MonkeyHaHa::  You are discussing/commenting on Caylee's case.  There can be discussion about different aspects,  but as long as it is about Caylee or the case or things involved with the case, then it wouldn't be OT.  OT would be discussion about sports, cars, hair etc.  Just wanted to be sure you knew what OT really was.  And we are all OT sometimes.  You don't come to mind as someone needing the big red button imo, lovinlife.   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 11:58:41 AM
OMG.I went to clean house and I'm 10 pages behind.You monkeys are busy.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Be back when I catch up.



HEY MUFFY  HEY MUFFY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 11:59:01 AM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:59:36 AM

I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO

It's bizarre.  I can't imagine with everything happening, that they would let a stranger into their home (on Caylee's birthday, no less) because he was alone and had nowhere to go.  One of my first thoughts was that this guy was a "spy" of sorts (for media or whoever)..  but then when George mentioned it, Casey didn't ask him anything about it.. like it was the most natural thing in the world for a complete stranger to show up for dinner.  ::MonkeyConfused::  Maybe she didn't ask because she knew their conversation had a time constraint and she didn't want to waste minutes talking about it.. knowing myself, I totally would have asked for more information.  But then she did say that the bible tells them to do that kind of thing.. which made it all the more strange. As if Casey was all that close with God or something.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I don't think anyone was in there...why this stranger? every other one was met with a hammer or a hose...I don't believe it...just trying to decipher why the need to mention it.

There are no atheists in a foxhole... old army saying..more BS if you ask me...which I think you did  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 12:03:39 PM
   I am sorry if this has been addressed before, but I thought some smart monkey might have some insight on this.  What is the history of the FL Sunshine Law, and are there many other states that have it?  It seems to me that it can be damaging to either side of a case and make it a lot harder to seat a jury that has not already heard maybe more than they should. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I can't figure out why Casey seems to have such faith in Jose.  I'm sure she watched some of the coverage while she was out those few weeks.  She has to realize that he doesn't, at least in the press, seem to be held out as the worlds greatest attorney.  She hasn't been with him that much in Court to observe him.  He hasn't been practicing long enough to have a impressive record or even much experience.  He hasn't had any high profile past clients that he's gotten off.  So why does she seem so confident in someone that she located after getting a recommendation from strangers in booking?

Is it because of the money factor?  Is it something else?  Is he telling her what she wants to hear?  I'm don't get it.  Her family has all but said to her during visitation they don't like him.    Heck, maybe that is it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 12:07:20 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:07:28 PM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?

GP - I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure when it happened.    My first thought is that it was right before Tim got there the first time to help.  But, I'm not sure what that date is, either.    Wish I could help more.

Thank you, Sassycat.  Found what I was looking for with your help (telling me it was just before Tim pulled into town.)

8/28/08 George Anthony departed from his home just after 6 a.m. He pulled out of his driveway, and another person in the car could not be identified.

So this is probably unrelated to the birthday visitor.

I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO




AMEN...AMEN...AMEN to that SS.  I had a difficult time (like couldn't figure-out) what they were talking about, other than chili and cornbread.  (Okay, so sometimes I've been known to be hard of hearing or having blonde moments, or both.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I'm glad to see that I didn't miss something.  I hope the Prosecutors use this in their case showing her habitual lies to them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 12:12:12 PM
I understand Muffy.  Thanks for the clarification.  I will try to behave myself.  I'm just a sensative monkey and don't want to get the boot.

 I assume this post would classify as OT !?!?!?!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 12:12:30 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO

I'm not sure there was a visitor either.  When listening to the tapes last night I found it VERY odd to invite someone new over to the house when you are supposedly getting death threats!  But I remembered the early morning departure by George and wanted to know if they coincided with each other

On a side note, know that prayers are offered for your loved ones.  May I suggest DanActive Immunity for your little one.  It helps put the intestinal tract in order.  Can be found in the dairy section of your grocery store. Packages of 4 or 8 three ounce size servings (vanilla, strawberry, peach, blueberry). Tastes like  'liquid cheesecake'. 

 ::MonkeyEek:: sounds horrible but I'm not a cheesecake person  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Thanks for the suggestion...he seems much better now and would have gone to school this morning if the pipes didn't burst..(I suspect one of the techers snuck in and loosened the bolt so they could get a 4 day weekend  ::MonkeyTongue:: )

Odd just seems to be the theme running through this whole case.. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 12:13:26 PM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.
That statement "What am I supposed to learn from that" struck me as an admission of her guilt. Like she said what will being in jail teach me anyway. I did pick up on that statement. I wonder if Cindy and George did also?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 12:14:35 PM
good morning monkeys!

i want to thank everyone for the warm welcome yesterday and id like to apologize to anyone i may have missed saying thanks to. i dont type very quickly and this place moves so fast at times that i just miss stuff. ill get the hang of it eventually i promise. ::MonkeyWink::


sociopaths arent capable of the same kind of emotions as normal people, thats why at a fairly young age they learn how to read people and situations and ape the 'proper' emotions. they usually become fairly good at this, however casey was in a situation where she had no point of reference to copy. its evident in both of her interviews with le and her first few jailhouse visit videos and phone calls.

once jose got hold of her and told her she had to look like she cared and to use caylees name rather than referring to her as 'my child' , 'my kid' and 'my daughter' (all indicative of how she saw caylee...she was her possession and bargaining chip). as we can see from later visitation videos she tries to act like she cares, asking about the various tshirts ca and ga have worn, how her grandparents are doing etc. the problem for her is tho she now knows what to say she doesnt know how to mimic the appropriate emotions and we see her total disinterest coming thru. the tshirts are really nice. too bad about grandma plesea. i just want my daughter back.
 
casy will NEVER admit to what she did. in one of her first visitations cindy asks her about zanny and if anyone else could be involved. caseys answer is very telling, she tells her she doesnt know but there could be, and she adds that if there are 'she hopes theyre stupid enough to say something'. she has no remorse, no guilt and as she said she 'hasnt done anything wrong. and shes a 'victim' too.

just my two cents with some bananas thrown if for good measure. ::MonkeyTongue::



 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 12:15:14 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:18:39 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.

I agree with you Newfie...if they had called her on every lie she told, they'd have to stop at the end of each sentence..better to let her run on and call the whole mess at once in the end..plus every time they corrected her, she'd have a change to reinvent the story...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!

its because the  more lies they have her telling on the record, the better it is for their case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:20:51 PM
Does anyone have the date when the media was reporting that George Anthony left his house early in the morning with an unidentified male in the car.  Could this the the person that 'had dinner' with the Anthony's on Caylee's birthday?

GP - I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure when it happened.    My first thought is that it was right before Tim got there the first time to help.  But, I'm not sure what that date is, either.    Wish I could help more.

Thank you, Sassycat.  Found what I was looking for with your help (telling me it was just before Tim pulled into town.)

8/28/08 George Anthony departed from his home just after 6 a.m. He pulled out of his driveway, and another person in the car could not be identified.

So this is probably unrelated to the birthday visitor.

I question whether or not there even was a visitor...that part just seemed so out of context with the discussion...I don't know if it was supposed to be code or just the A's putting on a performance for the viewing audience...just seemed waaaay out there to me...Caylee's birthday and not one mention of Caylee in that whole part of the discussion...burns me up really...JMO




AMEN...AMEN...AMEN to that SS.  I had a difficult time (like couldn't figure-out) what they were talking about, other than chili and cornbread.  (Okay, so sometimes I've been known to be hard of hearing or having blonde moments, or both.)

With as much practice lying and feigning concern for her daughter that Casey had, you'd think she would mention her a little more.  She isn't as good as she thinks she is.  An innocent mother would act more like Cindy then Casey does.  You can at least tell Cindy is distraught during those interviews.  Personally, if my child was missing, I would voice my concerns to my mother about whether he was safe, warm, etc.  Not well, my focus has to be on me now (like it ever wasn't on her) in my gut she's ok.  Can't do anything here.  Need to stay quiet so nothing can be used against me. 

It really only makes any sense at all when you know that Casey knew Caylee was laying out in the woods in a trash bag w/ duct tape wrapped around her head.  It makes sense she can't talk and her concern needs to be on herself.  Cindy tries to remind her and Casey tries to say the right and appropriate things but she doesn't have it in her.  She tries to pretend she cares but she just doesn't. I don't think there really was a lot more she could say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 12:21:38 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
On her visit with Lee in July she told him she got the phone herself. I believe it later came out the money she used from her grandfathers nursing home account was for a phone that was over $300. I am assuming this is all the same phone where she switches Sim card.

Someone correct me if I am wrong because I have been known to be wrong..at times..but never when I am talking to my husband...I am always right. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!
Yes and it also makes me wonder if there was another "job" having to do with the 1200 pictures that LE disclosed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:24:38 PM

AMEN...AMEN...AMEN to that SS.  I had a difficult time (like couldn't figure-out) what they were talking about, other than chili and cornbread.  (Okay, so sometimes I've been known to be hard of hearing or having blonde moments, or both.)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: you better run if you hear a motocycle coming your way  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yes...go to all that trouble getting a meeting set up only to discuss your favorite chili recipe  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 12:25:39 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!

its because the  more lies they have her telling on the record, the better it is for their case.


Cindy exhibits the exact same behavior, in going on for hours about Casey's  stories, for example telling all the minute details of the time when "Zanny" got in the car wreck.  I was surprised that the detectives never said, "But Mrs Anthony, you already said that you found out that this never even happened".  I was just waiting for them to bring her back to reality and they didn't do it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:28:11 PM
I can't figure out why Casey seems to have such faith in Jose.  I'm sure she watched some of the coverage while she was out those few weeks.  She has to realize that he doesn't, at least in the press, seem to be held out as the worlds greatest attorney.  She hasn't been with him that much in Court to observe him.  He hasn't been practicing long enough to have a impressive record or even much experience.  He hasn't had any high profile past clients that he's gotten off.  So why does she seem so confident in someone that she located after getting a recommendation from strangers in booking?

Is it because of the money factor?  Is it something else?  Is he telling her what she wants to hear?  I'm don't get it.  Her family has all but said to her during visitation they don't like him.    Heck, maybe that is it.




Cheeky Monk, remember that KC spent week after week alone with Biaz in his office.  Although it can't be proved, one can imagine what transpired.  She is totally enamored of him.  He has only fed her info that he wants her to know or believe, and has convinced her, for his own personal/financial gain, not to trust anyone else but him.  It wouldn't have taken a rocket scientists to convince her not to have contact with the outside world because the news media would have a field day with it.  Anyway, that's just my opinion.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 12:30:52 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mstam656 on January 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!

It is definitely part of the interrogation technique...if you let the suspect keep talking and talking eventually they will contradict things they have said...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 12:31:57 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.

Good point, Lovinlife. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:32:56 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 

Babybear and Hidingmokey,  this has also bothered me.  I just keep thinking that the detectives that were with her were not confronting her because of some kind of interrigation technique and they know way more about that than I do!
Yes and it also makes me wonder if there was another "job" having to do with the 1200 pictures that LE disclosed?

Could be, we haven't heard Boo  ::MonkeyRoll:: about those pics since that one popped up in here....not by LP or anyone for that matter..I'm wondering if anything really exists other than the party pics we've seen already, there has to be 1200 of those and between cop and father, they'd fit the description given to George..JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 12:33:32 PM
Monken - Luckycharm -   Your posts are really great and informative.

Also, many of you monkeys have given insightful opinions and facts.   Thanks!

Gotta go make a roast for my dear old parents (in their 80s), BBL.    Stay Warm!   

I'm finally caught up ! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

These were long but very good posts..I'd just like to add Iron Cowgirl to that list..

Klaas & Muffy (good to see you back) sorry for the dunny post..I made it before I saw yours..nuff said  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks for the kudos Sea Searcher, Perriwinkle and Luckycharmprincess.  I won't make a fuss about ever being ignored, but it does feel nice to know people read and appreciate what you say (especially when you say it at 2:00 AM and no ones on to read it!). ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
With all the recent developments and the vacant home, does anyone know if LE has had cadaver dogs search there?  Just thinking that Casey could have had Caylee there prior to placing her on Suburban?  Interested to know if her car was ever seen near that house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 12:34:44 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.

You could be right. I hope they stopped her at some point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:35:20 PM

AMEN...AMEN...AMEN to that SS.  I had a difficult time (like couldn't figure-out) what they were talking about, other than chili and cornbread.  (Okay, so sometimes I've been known to be hard of hearing or having blonde moments, or both.)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: you better run if you hear a motocycle coming your way   ::MonkeyRoll::



 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:35:47 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.

I think that was just a comment another poster made in sarcasm when KC used the do unto others line...I 'm pretty sure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
good morning monkeys!

i want to thank everyone for the warm welcome yesterday and id like to apologize to anyone i may have missed saying thanks to. i dont type very quickly and this place moves so fast at times that i just miss stuff. ill get the hang of it eventually i promise. ::MonkeyWink::


sociopaths arent capable of the same kind of emotions as normal people, thats why at a fairly young age they learn how to read people and situations and ape the 'proper' emotions. they usually become fairly good at this, however casey was in a situation where she had no point of reference to copy. its evident in both of her interviews with le and her first few jailhouse visit videos and phone calls.

once jose got hold of her and told her she had to look like she cared and to use caylees name rather than referring to her as 'my child' , 'my kid' and 'my daughter' (all indicative of how she saw caylee...she was her possession and bargaining chip). as we can see from later visitation videos she tries to act like she cares, asking about the various tshirts ca and ga have worn, how her grandparents are doing etc. the problem for her is tho she now knows what to say she doesnt know how to mimic the appropriate emotions and we see her total disinterest coming thru. the tshirts are really nice. too bad about grandma plesea. i just want my daughter back.
 
casy will NEVER admit to what she did. in one of her first visitations cindy asks her about zanny and if anyone else could be involved. caseys answer is very telling, she tells her she doesnt know but there could be, and she adds that if there are 'she hopes theyre stupid enough to say something'. she has no remorse, no guilt and as she said she 'hasnt done anything wrong. and shes a 'victim' too.

just my two cents with some bananas thrown if for good measure. ::MonkeyTongue::



 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 16, 2009, 12:37:35 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.
Good Point.  It makes you wonder if she ever felt attached to her. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO, but I do believe she enjoyed being pregnant - she was getting more attention than ever before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:37:57 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Iron Cowgirl on January 16, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.

You could be right. I hope they stopped her at some point.

I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves."  That's what I think they were doing.  If they challenged her at every turn, she'd adjust everything she says.  She'd also have more wiggle room to say she was coerced into saying something particular or possibly change the tune just a bit when she knows they don't believe her.  They let her run with it and tighten the noose more and more with every lie.  The best way to get information out of anyone is to just allow them to talk.  They'll say things you never expected and give you some real insight into where their head is.  My favorite tactic is the "dumb" approach.  "I am a dumb monkey and just don't get it.  Could you help me understand please?" 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pegster57 on January 16, 2009, 12:41:01 PM
What "if" Nejame gave the money to Kronk just to PO the As's.

Nejame was knowledgeable about the As's thoughts and plans.  He knew their games.  Once Kronk found Caylee's remains, the Hollywood life the As's planned on living came to an abrupt halt.  SinCin had claimed the $5,000 was hers, and now it is property of the man who shot down their new-found life style and any hope of saving KC, not that I think that really matters to them anymore.  You know this has to just stick in SinCin's crawl, and I'm sure that Nejame is laughing his fanny off.

Does this make any sense.  Maybe I best go make some breakfast and get some coffee before I post anything else.    ::MonkeyConfused::


I believe this to be the case also. NeJame is one smart cookie. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.




Hey, BabyBear.  I "did" hear that one come out of her mouth in reference to her reading the bible.  Maybe she was busy in jail trying to memorize the Ten Commandments someone had written on her cell wall rather than reading the Bible that she supposedly didn't have.  Then, on the otherhand, maybe she was just trying to comprehend if there was any meaning to any of them.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pegster57 on January 16, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

You can see Cindy closely scrutinizing KC's face after she says it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 12:42:52 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest. I don't post much because I am always behind on reading. As for KC's lies to LE....I think they were just sitting back and giving her enough rope to hang herself. You can only tell so many lies before you forget what you have already told. I think alot of things were cut out of the tapes. And for the life of me....I can't figure out why JB wanted that tape so bad. It just shows the real KC. I was married to a sociopath....didn't know the name for it then...but he was just pure evil...Even told our 6 yr old that he was GOD and no one could touch him. Thanks to all the Monkeys for their articles on this disorder. It helps to put it into perspective. And I did get smart enough to leave before he killed me or the kids.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 12:43:01 PM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.

Wow, you just reminded me that when I heard that comment "What am I supposed to learn from that?" it was a double-take moment for me as well. It's soo all about her in her mind, she's been put in jail to teach her a lesson, like she's been given a "timeout" for getting rid of Caylee. She is so sure she's not going to be spending her life behind bars, this is just a temporary, inconvenient setback inflicted on poor KC by unfeeling LE who refuse to see her as a victim as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 12:43:53 PM
TY for the clarification on the Bible quotes, I have not gathered strenth to go back and listen to it again.  I know that if my hiney was in jail for 30 days for something like this, I would be reading and reading that Bible.  I would be able to come up with a reference of something better than what she came up with.  There I go "thinking" again, darn it! 

Something else that got under my skin..."I just woke up...I'm tired..." WTFE.  Tired from WHAT? Rehearsing your lies over and over in your head?!?!?! UGH!

Piece of work!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:44:21 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.

I think that was just a comment another poster made in sarcasm when KC used the do unto others line...I 'm pretty sure




Okay, SS.  Are you now telling me that I'm hearing things?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.
Good Point.  It makes you wonder if she ever felt attached to her. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO, but I do believe she enjoyed being pregnant - she was getting more attention than ever before.
Remember that she didn't disclose her pregnancy until late in the 2nd tri-mester.  I think that once she had Caylee things were good because that's when she got some attention.  Once the newness wore out and it became a job/routine she became bored with it and later wanted "her" party life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:48:55 PM
Wow.  Finally caught-up for a minute.

GOOD MORNING/AFTERNOON TO ALL OF SMART, FUN, LOVING MONKEYS.

WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU NEW MONKEYS!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.

Cheeky, I had a sister like that.  She didn't kill anyone but the rule in our house was "Don't upset Joan."  She had a terrible temper and would go to any lengths to get even for real or imagined slights.  Toward the end of her life, my husband and I had no communication with her because of her compulsion to be in charge of everyone.  When she died, she cut one of her children completely out of her will--this was the child who always was there for her when she was sick or needed help.  Probably if Casey were not going to spend the rest of her life in jail, she would live her life basically like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
good morning monkeys!

i want to thank everyone for the warm welcome yesterday and id like to apologize to anyone i may have missed saying thanks to. i dont type very quickly and this place moves so fast at times that i just miss stuff. ill get the hang of it eventually i promise. ::MonkeyWink::


sociopaths arent capable of the same kind of emotions as normal people, thats why at a fairly young age they learn how to read people and situations and ape the 'proper' emotions. they usually become fairly good at this, however casey was in a situation where she had no point of reference to copy. its evident in both of her interviews with le and her first few jailhouse visit videos and phone calls.

once jose got hold of her and told her she had to look like she cared and to use caylees name rather than referring to her as 'my child' , 'my kid' and 'my daughter' (all indicative of how she saw caylee...she was her possession and bargaining chip). as we can see from later visitation videos she tries to act like she cares, asking about the various tshirts ca and ga have worn, how her grandparents are doing etc. the problem for her is tho she now knows what to say she doesnt know how to mimic the appropriate emotions and we see her total disinterest coming thru. the tshirts are really nice. too bad about grandma plesea. i just want my daughter back.
 
casy will NEVER admit to what she did. in one of her first visitations cindy asks her about zanny and if anyone else could be involved. caseys answer is very telling, she tells her she doesnt know but there could be, and she adds that if there are 'she hopes theyre stupid enough to say something'. she has no remorse, no guilt and as she said she 'hasnt done anything wrong. and shes a 'victim' too.

just my two cents with some bananas thrown if for good measure. ::MonkeyTongue::



 




Welcome peanut...I can't believe I missed such a pretty kitty  ::MonkeyWink::

I know nothing about sociopaths except what I'm learning from some very smart kittys monkeys...where does it start...I've read a lot here about their behavior but I'm getting the impression that it's something they are born with ???  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:51:39 PM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.

Wow, you just reminded me that when I heard that comment "What am I supposed to learn from that?" it was a double-take moment for me as well. It's soo all about her in her mind, she's been put in jail to teach her a lesson, like she's been given a "timeout" for getting rid of Caylee. She is so sure she's not going to be spending her life behind bars, this is just a temporary, inconvenient setback inflicted on poor KC by unfeeling LE who refuse to see her as a victim as well.


YES!! Like, she's saying, "Okay I get it.  I sat in the corner.  Whatever, why can't everyone see that I was justified in doing what I had to do.  Caylee was mine, not yours.  It was my problem.  I took care of it.  Life goes on, I can't change it.  Take it back?  Of course, I wish that.  Are you kidding?  Do you understand?  If I hadn't killed her this inconvenience of oh, jail, wouldn't be happening.  But then again I wouldn't have met some of the incredible people (my attorney) that I've met.   Sure maybe I'd still have Tony but on the other hand, I'm kinda glad I now know that he is so terribly unsupportive.  I mean really if a guy I've been sleeping with for a whole two months can't stand by me on a stupid murder charge, was that really gonna last?  I mean come on!" 

Balls up fist and makes face.  Wipes tear away.  REPEAT.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 12:52:01 PM
Wow.  Finally caught-up for a minute.

GOOD MORNING/AFTERNOON TO ALL OF SMART, FUN, LOVING MONKEYS.

WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU NEW MONKEYS!!!!!!


thank you golden oldie! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
With all the recent developments and the vacant home, does anyone know if LE has had cadaver dogs search there?  Just thinking that Casey could have had Caylee there prior to placing her on Suburban?  Interested to know if her car was ever seen near that house?

I don't know if there has been anything official about the abandoned home and if it's been searched.  I sure hope it has.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 12:53:07 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest. I don't post much because I am always behind on reading. As for KC's lies to LE....I think they were just sitting back and giving her enough rope to hang herself. You can only tell so many lies before you forget what you have already told. I think alot of things were cut out of the tapes. And for the life of me....I can't figure out why JB wanted that tape so bad. It just shows the real KC. I was married to a sociopath....didn't know the name for it then...but he was just pure evil...Even told our 6 yr old that he was GOD and no one could touch him. Thanks to all the Monkeys for their articles on this disorder. It helps to put it into perspective. And I did get smart enough to leave before he killed me or the kids.
Thank God you were able to leave, I've just never been around anyone to that degree, I've been around some rather scary individuals, but the more I keep reading on this forum it scares me to think so many people have had to deal with this in their lives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:54:09 PM
IMO-Casey is a self centered B.  She's always gotten her way and knows how to work her parents.  She gives them the guilt treatment so they lay off of her.  Lee knows how she works too but he stays his distance.  Wish she'd accept me as a visitor!  I'd be happy to see her!  Anyone else want to come with me?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 12:54:30 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 12:56:37 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.

Cheeky, I had a sister like that.  She didn't kill anyone but the rule in our house was "Don't upset Joan."  She had a terrible temper and would go to any lengths to get even for real or imagined slights.  Toward the end of her life, my husband and I had no communication with her because of her compulsion to be in charge of everyone.  When she died, she cut one of her children completely out of her will--this was the child who always was there for her when she was sick or needed help.  Probably if Casey were not going to spend the rest of her life in jail, she would live her life basically like that.

It is sad.  I've really gone back and forth about my feelings for Cindy and George.  But it was clear in that conversation, to me anyway, that she had kidnapped Caylee from them.  She was holding information about Caylee as a ransom.  A ransom for their support for their continued obedience and loyalty to her.  I am so glad that Caylee was found.  For her own sake but for the extended family as well.  I'm sure Caylee's great grandparents and great aunt and uncles loved her dearly.  I think George and Cindy did also and I hope that they can get it together and stand by Caylee and make that their priority.  They just need to realize that they don't have to convince everyone of Casey's innocence to stand by her.  Unfortuantly, they may be in it to deep at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
good morning monkeys!

i want to thank everyone for the warm welcome yesterday and id like to apologize to anyone i may have missed saying thanks to. i dont type very quickly and this place moves so fast at times that i just miss stuff. ill get the hang of it eventually i promise. ::MonkeyWink::


sociopaths arent capable of the same kind of emotions as normal people, thats why at a fairly young age they learn how to read people and situations and ape the 'proper' emotions. they usually become fairly good at this, however casey was in a situation where she had no point of reference to copy. its evident in both of her interviews with le and her first few jailhouse visit videos and phone calls.

once jose got hold of her and told her she had to look like she cared and to use caylees name rather than referring to her as 'my child' , 'my kid' and 'my daughter' (all indicative of how she saw caylee...she was her possession and bargaining chip). as we can see from later visitation videos she tries to act like she cares, asking about the various tshirts ca and ga have worn, how her grandparents are doing etc. the problem for her is tho she now knows what to say she doesnt know how to mimic the appropriate emotions and we see her total disinterest coming thru. the tshirts are really nice. too bad about grandma plesea. i just want my daughter back.
 
casy will NEVER admit to what she did. in one of her first visitations cindy asks her about zanny and if anyone else could be involved. caseys answer is very telling, she tells her she doesnt know but there could be, and she adds that if there are 'she hopes theyre stupid enough to say something'. she has no remorse, no guilt and as she said she 'hasnt done anything wrong. and shes a 'victim' too.

just my two cents with some bananas thrown if for good measure. ::MonkeyTongue::



 




Welcome peanut...I can't believe I missed such a pretty kitty  ::MonkeyWink::

I know nothing about sociopaths except what I'm learning from some very smart kittys monkeys...where does it start...I've read a lot here about their behavior but I'm getting the impression that it's something they are born with ???  ::MonkeyConfused::

thank you sea searcher! ::MonkeyDance::

it is the general consensus that they are born that way. im not implying that early trauma might not compounded it, but i think people want explanations and sometimes there just arent any.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 12:58:02 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.

I think that was just a comment another poster made in sarcasm when KC used the do unto others line...I 'm pretty sure




Okay, SS.  Are you now telling me that I'm hearing things?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Did you hear KC say this ?? I might have missed it..  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 12:58:08 PM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.

Wow, you just reminded me that when I heard that comment "What am I supposed to learn from that?" it was a double-take moment for me as well. It's soo all about her in her mind, she's been put in jail to teach her a lesson, like she's been given a "timeout" for getting rid of Caylee. She is so sure she's not going to be spending her life behind bars, this is just a temporary, inconvenient setback inflicted on poor KC by unfeeling LE who refuse to see her as a victim as well.


YES!! Like, she's saying, "Okay I get it.  I sat in the corner.  Whatever, why can't everyone see that I was justified in doing what I had to do.  Caylee was mine, not yours.  It was my problem.  I took care of it.  Life goes on, I can't change it.  Take it back?  Of course, I wish that.  Are you kidding?  Do you understand?  If I hadn't killed her this inconvenience of oh, jail, wouldn't be happening.  But then again I wouldn't have met some of the incredible people (my attorney) that I've met.   Sure maybe I'd still have Tony but on the other hand, I'm kinda glad I now know that he is so terribly unsupportive.  I mean really if a guy I've been sleeping with for a whole two months can't stand by me on a stupid murder charge, was that really gonna last?  I mean come on!" 

Balls up fist and makes face.  Wipes tear away.  REPEAT.




Cheeky Monk, I like the way you interpret.  Couldn't have been better said.    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kimmy53 on January 16, 2009, 12:58:28 PM
I can't figure out why Casey seems to have such faith in Jose.  I'm sure she watched some of the coverage while she was out those few weeks.  She has to realize that he doesn't, at least in the press, seem to be held out as the worlds greatest attorney.  She hasn't been with him that much in Court to observe him.  He hasn't been practicing long enough to have a impressive record or even much experience.  He hasn't had any high profile past clients that he's gotten off.  So why does she seem so confident in someone that she located after getting a recommendation from strangers in booking?

Is it because of the money factor?  Is it something else?  Is he telling her what she wants to hear?  I'm don't get it.  Her family has all but said to her during visitation they don't like him.    Heck, maybe that is it.




Cheeky Monk, remember that KC spent week after week alone with Biaz in his office.  Although it can't be proved, one can imagine what transpired.  She is totally enamored of him.  He has only fed her info that he wants her to know or believe, and has convinced her, for his own personal/financial gain, not to trust anyone else but him.  It wouldn't have taken a rocket scientists to convince her not to have contact with the outside world because the news media would have a field day with it.  Anyway, that's just my opinion.   


I totally agree.  Casey sees Jose as a "powerful" person.  He has NO doubt fed her a line. 

The fact that George and Cindy don't like him only makes her want him more.  I bet it was the same way when she'd bring a boyfriend home they didn't like.

Baez is quite comfortable with the control he has right now... Dollar signs are popping in his head.  IMO he has already drained alot of the funds. 

I would bet that when the trial is over and the experts on his defense team want to be paid, they will play hell collecting....if they ever do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 12:59:07 PM


On a side note, know that prayers are offered for your loved ones.  May I suggest DanActive Immunity for your little one.  It helps put the intestinal tract in order.  Can be found in the dairy section of your grocery store. Packages of 4 or 8 three ounce size servings (vanilla, strawberry, peach, blueberry). Tastes like  'liquid cheesecake'. 

 ::MonkeyEek:: sounds horrible but I'm not a cheesecake person  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Thanks for the suggestion...he seems much better now and would have gone to school this morning if the pipes didn't burst..(I suspect one of the techers snuck in and loosened the bolt so they could get a 4 day weekend  ::MonkeyTongue:: )

Odd just seems to be the theme running through this whole case.. ::MonkeyConfused::

I've been taking them since about May of '97... they help tremendously with upset stomachs.. I've been on long-term antibiotic treatment for Lyme Disease.  They taste good and really do work! (I wouldn't say they taste like cheesecake, though. :P Just like drinking yogurt).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 12:59:41 PM
I know this is obvious but she is so strange.  When she's all emotional about being in jail and not being able to tell anyone anything, she says something along the lines of I've been here a month, not able to talk to anyone, out of the loop, blah, blah, blah then says, "What I'm I supposed to learn from that".

It seems clear to me that she has absolutely no remorse for what she did.  I think she'd still be out at parties if it wasn't for that pesky murder charge.  She seems so very dangerous - especially tiny defenseless children.



Wow, you just reminded me that when I heard that comment "What am I supposed to learn from that?" it was a double-take moment for me as well. It's soo all about her in her mind, she's been put in jail to teach her a lesson, like she's been given a "timeout" for getting rid of Caylee. She is so sure she's not going to be spending her life behind bars, this is just a temporary, inconvenient setback inflicted on poor KC by unfeeling LE who refuse to see her as a victim as well.


YES!! Like, she's saying, "Okay I get it.  I sat in the corner.  Whatever, why can't everyone see that I was justified in doing what I had to do.  Caylee was mine, not yours.  It was my problem.  I took care of it.  Life goes on, I can't change it.  Take it back?  Of course, I wish that.  Are you kidding?  Do you understand?  If I hadn't killed her this inconvenience of oh, jail, wouldn't be happening.  But then again I wouldn't have met some of the incredible people (my attorney) that I've met.   Sure maybe I'd still have Tony but on the other hand, I'm kinda glad I now know that he is so terribly unsupportive.  I mean really if a guy I've been sleeping with for a whole two months can't stand by me on a stupid murder charge, was that really gonna last?  I mean come on!" 

Balls up fist and makes face.  Wipes tear away.  REPEAT.

LOL.  Very good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 12:59:46 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.
I think she missed quite a few of the Ten Commandments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.
Very interesting, do they actually believe all their lies are the truth, so in that way they are not to blame for any wrong doing. Where they can actually make themselves believe they have done nothing wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 01:00:49 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.

My ex couldn't hold a job either. but it was never his fault..they never appreciated his intelligence. He was also Chief of Police in our town. Locked up people for DUI and would be drunker than they were. Not taking up for the Anthony's in anyway, but I do understand the walking on eggshells. I did it for 9 yrs. That was 30 yrs ago and I still bear the emotional and physical scars. KC should never be allowed outside of bars again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: anothermonkey on January 16, 2009, 01:01:56 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.
Good Point.  It makes you wonder if she ever felt attached to her. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO, but I do believe she enjoyed being pregnant - she was getting more attention than ever before.
Remember that she didn't disclose her pregnancy until late in the 2nd tri-mester.  I think that once she had Caylee things were good because that's when she got some attention.  Once the newness wore out and it became a job/routine she became bored with it and later wanted "her" party life.

Makes you wonder why she didn't reveal the pregnancy earlier.. she could have milked it way more than she did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.

You could be right. I hope they stopped her at some point.

I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves."  That's what I think they were doing.  If they challenged her at every turn, she'd adjust everything she says.  She'd also have more wiggle room to say she was coerced into saying something particular or possibly change the tune just a bit when she knows they don't believe her.  They let her run with it and tighten the noose more and more with every lie.  The best way to get information out of anyone is to just allow them to talk.  They'll say things you never expected and give you some real insight into where their head is.  My favorite tactic is the "dumb" approach.  "I am a dumb monkey and just don't get it.  Could you help me understand please?" 

Yes, I understand your point but if I remember correctly, the conversation about the lost phone came after she was confronted with the fact that she brought them to Universal and she didn't even work there.  Maybe I remember it wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.

Cheeky, I had a sister like that.  She didn't kill anyone but the rule in our house was "Don't upset Joan."  She had a terrible temper and would go to any lengths to get even for real or imagined slights.  Toward the end of her life, my husband and I had no communication with her because of her compulsion to be in charge of everyone.  When she died, she cut one of her children completely out of her will--this was the child who always was there for her when she was sick or needed help.  Probably if Casey were not going to spend the rest of her life in jail, she would live her life basically like that.

I don't think she was dumb at all but I do think she was lazy.  I believe that she also feels she is a lot smarter than she is.  I really am not that impressed with her lies.  Initially, I thought she was a great liar but the more I've listened the less impressive it seems.  She lies easily and readily but I don't think that makes her a good liar.  She sounds convincing but all her lies are incredibly easy to disprove.  I honestly don't think she had often been challenged or called on what she said.  On the rare occassion she was I think she just continued to lie.  The fact that she says that things she says with authority probably help make the lies sound more convincing but had Cindy and George not been there (right or wrong) to cover for her stealing and lies, I think she would have had a lot more problems with LE prior to this.  Who knows, maybe she did as a juvenile.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.

I think that was just a comment another poster made in sarcasm when KC used the do unto others line...I 'm pretty sure




Okay, SS.  Are you now telling me that I'm hearing things?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Did you hear KC say this ?? I might have missed it..  ::MonkeyConfused::




SS, I swear I did.  Oh my.  Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to that LONG crazy tape, again.  I need to go take a couple of Asprin and get a cigarette first. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
I don't know if this has ever been discussed.  In the interviews LE had with Casey when she took them to her so-called "Office", they confronted her on her not having been employed since 2006.  She went on to discuss her phones.  Said one was supplied to her for work.  What work?  Why would she go on and on about that when they knew she didn't have a job?  I would have thought they would have stopped her right in her statement on this. Did I miss something? 
 

If you missed something, so did I.  She just continued on and on about how she reported the loss of the phone to "Security" as if she had not already told LE she didn't really work at Universal.  I wondered why they didn't stop her too.  They just went along with her. And also in a conversation with Lee she talked about the phone and her work and how she had seen someone at Universal and he said "Was it work or play," as if he too forget she didn't have a job. 
I've always assumed that we don't have the whole interview.  I think they let her go on with her ruse for a while just to see if they could get some additional information.  I'm certain they eventually called her out ... I just don't think that has been released as it may be used at trial.

You could be right. I hope they stopped her at some point.

I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves."  That's what I think they were doing.  If they challenged her at every turn, she'd adjust everything she says.  She'd also have more wiggle room to say she was coerced into saying something particular or possibly change the tune just a bit when she knows they don't believe her.  They let her run with it and tighten the noose more and more with every lie.  The best way to get information out of anyone is to just allow them to talk.  They'll say things you never expected and give you some real insight into where their head is.  My favorite tactic is the "dumb" approach.  "I am a dumb monkey and just don't get it.  Could you help me understand please?" 

Yes, I understand your point but if I remember correctly, the conversation about the lost phone came after she was confronted with the fact that she brought them to Universal and she didn't even work there.  Maybe I remember it wrong.

it was in her first interview with le.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
Babybear-you're right.  It's just been said that people think that the LE are letting her run with the lies and they'll tighten the noose more and more with every lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
((((Hugs)))) Darla! 

lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 01:08:22 PM
morning monkeys? still not caught up but wanted to visit before i have to our closing. just wondering if this had been discussed, first KC said she had the worst day ever on Caylee's birthday, & read her bible all day, then she tells Cindy that she is not allowed to have her bible, so did she have another bible. maybe one she got from the jail? sorry, if this has been answered, hubby wanted dinner AGAIN last nite & couln't get caught up. tia.

by the way i'm sooooo cold.

wendi

Mornin' Wendi.... saw your post yesterday and Thanks

What happened to you ? you not only change clothes, you changed species  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe I missed it but I didn't even hear them refer to it as Caylee's Birthday...George just said "last Saturday"  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Many contradictions in the video..when we get a transcript..I'm sure the monkeys will list them all out  ::MonkeyCool::



yeah, SeaSearcher, i just, but i've got something coming for you pretty soon. just wait! i know how like the kitties! when Brandi gets done fixin' me up, you want be able to resist me! hope you're doing well!

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
ITA, Cheekymonkey & others!  Difficult to remember, for me anyway, that KC does not "think" as we do, ie we are not sociopaths.  Her disassociation from Caylee did not start on June 16th, imo.
Good Point.  It makes you wonder if she ever felt attached to her. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO, but I do believe she enjoyed being pregnant - she was getting more attention than ever before.
Remember that she didn't disclose her pregnancy until late in the 2nd tri-mester.  I think that once she had Caylee things were good because that's when she got some attention.  Once the newness wore out and it became a job/routine she became bored with it and later wanted "her" party life.

Makes you wonder why she didn't reveal the pregnancy earlier.. she could have milked it way more than she did.
Probably got more satisfaction knowing that she was pulling one over on her parents!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:14:01 PM
Okay Guys, if anyone has ANY doubt that Casey Anthony is a SOCIOPATH at this point; Please read the following! She is absolutely textbook! All of these defining terms are interchangeable: sociopath/psychopath/anti-social personality. if you have not read the book: "The Sociopath Nextdoor" & want to completely understand the mind of a sociopath; PLEASE DO SO! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From page 107. After listening for almost 25 years to the stories my patients tell me about sociopaths who have invaded and injured their lives, when I am asked, "How can I tell whom not to trust?" the answer I give usually surprises people. The natural expectation is that I will describe some sinister-sounding detail of behavior or snippet of body language or threatening use of language that is the subtle give-away. Instead, I take people aback by assuring them that the tip-off is none of these things, for none of these things is reliably present. Rather, the best clue is, of all things, THE PITY PLAY. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, PERVERSELY, an appeal to our sympathy.



She goes on to talk about a sociopath she interviewed, asking "What is important in your life?" "What do you want more than anything else?" He told her without a moment's hesitation, "Oh, that's easy. What I like better than anything else is when people feel sorry for me. The thing I really want more than anything else out of life is people's pity."
She was astonished & mystified; Why would this man--why would anyone--wish to be pitied, let alone wish to be pitied ABOVE ALL OTHER AMBITIONS? She came to this conclusion:

From page 108. I realize there is an excellent reason for the sociopathic fondness for PITY. As obvious as the nose on one's face, and just as difficult to see without the help of a mirror, the explanation is THAT GOOD PEOPLE WILL LET PATHETIC INDIVIDUALS GETBY WITH MURDER, so to speak, and therefore any ETsociopath wishing to continue with his game, whatever it happens to be, should play repeatedly for none other than PITY.

More than admiration--more even than fear--pity from good people is carte blanche. When we pity, we are, at least for the moment, defenseless, and like so many of the other essentially positive human characteristics that bind us together in groups--social and professional roles, sexual bonds, regard for the compassionate and the creative, respect for our leaders--our emotional vunerability when we pity is USED AGAINST US BY THOSE WHO HAVE NO CONSCIENCE.
Pity and sympathy are forces for good when they are reactions to deserving people who have fallen on misfortune. But when these sentiments are wrested out of us by the undeserving, by people whose behavior is consistently anti-social, this is a sure sign that something is wrong, a potentially useful DANGER SIGNAL THAT WE OFTEN OVERLOOK.

She gives examples: The violent husband who batters his wife & then moans & cries that he is a poor wretch & cannot control himself & needs her forgiveness. From the Nazi death camps, some guards wanted sympathy for having to endure the "smell" and had difficulty eating their lunch! One man wanted sympathy because he was forced to "break someone's arm"
A good CASEY related ex.: A woman in prison, complained society was preventing her from taking proper care of her children; she was executed for the grisly murder of an elderly woman.

From page 109. In retrospect, sociopathic appeals for pity are preposterous and chilling. Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. AND ALL IN ALL, I AM SURE THAT IF THE DEVIL EXISTED, HEWOULD WANT US TO FEEL VERY SORRY FOR HIM.HE
Very interesting post, Monken!  Thanks for bringing this info to us.  It's really very scary....gives me chills!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
((((Hugs)))) Darla! 

lovin

Thank you Lovin.....just trying to give a birdseye view of living with someone like this. IMHO, I think they are born that way. He never tried to blame it on his childhood or anything, because in his mind he had never done anything wrong. He was an only child and always jealous of my brother and sister. Always tried to isolate me from friends and family. Looking at KC, I see so many simularities. Just sickening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 16, 2009, 01:17:37 PM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?
I read the NG scripts this am and there was an expert on there who said LE should really think if the want Lee to have immunity. He said the problem if he does is he could get on the stand and say he killed Caylee and there would be nothing they could do about it. There goes the Casey did it. I don't think Lee would sacrifice his future though (job wise mainly) to do that but he brought up a good point.

I say "no" to all of them. Evdience will speak volumes no matter how many experts they have.

I AM so sick of all the immunity seeking A's, but from what I understand.......it depends on whether Lee gets "use" immunity use immunity, testimonial immunity (an exemption that displaces the privilege against self-incrimination; neither compelled testimony or any fruits of it can be used against the witness who therefore can no longer fear self-incrimination) versus "transactional" immunity,transactional immunity (a broader form of use immunity that also protects the witness from any prosecution brought about relating to transactions to which they gave testimony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:19:01 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 01:20:47 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18489212/detail.html

'Life Taken From Me,' Casey Anthony Says In Jail Visit
Recording Of August Jailhouse Meeting Released

POSTED: Thursday, January 15, 2009
UPDATED: 11:47 am EST January 16, 2009


 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In an August jailhouse visit with her parents, Casey Anthony said her "entire life has been taken" from her.

A videotaped recording showing the emotional and argument-filled Aug. 14 visit was released by authorities on Thursday.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were discovered in a wooded area near the home of the toddler's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

At one point during the visit, Casey Anthony gets frustrated with her parents, upset that she had been interrupted.

"Can someone let me ... nobody's letting me speak. ... give me three seconds to say something. I'm not in control of any of this because I don't know what's going on. My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me," Casey Anthony said. "I have no one to comfort me but myself -- and the occasional visit -- which has to be business for the sake of finding Caylee."

The visit began with Casey Anthony asking her mother how she was feeling.

"We're not doing well, Casey. None of us," Cindy Anthony said while crying. "Lee has been sick. Dad's blowing up at the media."

Before entering the jail, George Anthony lashed out at a reporter on his way in to visit his daughter.

"Do you have anything to say about a new theory that Caylee (Anthony) may be dead and that it may be an accident?" a reporter asked.

"Shut up," George Anthony screamed as he moved toward the reporter. "Shut up."

"Someone just said that Caylee was dead this morning -- that she drowned in the pool. That's the newest story out there," Cindy Anthony said.

"Surprise, surprise," said Casey Anthony, who was then peppered with questions by her mother.

"I was in Lake County two days ago," Cindy Anthony said.

"OK?" Casey Anthony replied.

"Is there anything there?" Cindy Anthony said.

"Mom!" Casey Anthony said. "I'm sorry. I love you guys. I miss you ..." Casey Anthony said before being interrupted by her mother.

"Alright sweetheart, here's dad," Cindy Anthony said.

"No. I'm going to hang up and just walk away right now because ...," Casey Anthony said.

"Please don't," her mother said.

"I'm frustrated and I'm angry, and I don't want to be angry. This is the first time that I've truly, truly been angry this entire time, but I'm so beyond frustrated with all of this -- I can't even swallow right now because it hurts," Casey Anthony said.

"Just understand we're all going in so many different directions. We just want to go in the right one," Cindy Anthony said.

"Well I can't point you in that direction when I'm literally at a standstill," Casey Anthony said.

Local 6 reported that Casey Anthony's attorney thought he could arrange a secret, in-person visit between Casey Anthony and one family member.

On the released video, Casey Anthony told her father that if she met with her brother, Lee Anthony, he would interrogate her, and her mother would dominate the conversation.

"I want to see all of you, but I wanted to see the one person that I've been so far disconnected from the longest, and that's been you," Casey Anthony said.

The visit occurred less than a week after Caylee's third birthday. A week after the visit, Casey Anthony was bailed out of jail by celebrity bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Leroy on January 16, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
I want to let every Monkey know that it is so refreshing to come here and see so many wonderful people that want justice for not only Caylee but NH, Adjir, etc.

Your efforts and determination to bring justice to these victims is amazing.

I truely believe that Caylee really will get the justice she deserves and all those involved will pay eventually....even if its not until their Judgement Day.

You are all such caring, compasionate monkeys - I wish the Anthony's would care about Caylee as much as you all do.

Muffy - I apologize that I offended you...that was not my intent.  OR any other monkey for that matter.  I honestly was not trying to stir up trouble and I'm sorry I came off that way.

All of us need a break from this madness and I think now is my time. God bless you all.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 01:22:58 PM
morning monkeys? still not caught up but wanted to visit before i have to our closing. just wondering if this had been discussed, first KC said she had the worst day ever on Caylee's birthday, & read her bible all day, then she tells Cindy that she is not allowed to have her bible, so did she have another bible. maybe one she got from the jail? sorry, if this has been answered, hubby wanted dinner AGAIN last nite & couln't get caught up. tia.

by the way i'm sooooo cold.

wendi

Mornin' Wendi.... saw your post yesterday and Thanks

What happened to you ? you not only change clothes, you changed species  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe I missed it but I didn't even hear them refer to it as Caylee's Birthday...George just said "last Saturday"  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Many contradictions in the video..when we get a transcript..I'm sure the monkeys will list them all out  ::MonkeyCool::



yeah, SeaSearcher, i just, but i've got something coming for you pretty soon. just wait! i know how like the kitties! when Brandi gets done fixin' me up, you want be able to resist me! hope you're doing well!

wendi

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Well I was doing better until anothermonkey started talking about drinking yogurt...now I'm feeling a little green behind the gills  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for your concern..and I can't wait to see the new outfit  ::MonkeyWink::

AM...I'm sorry to hear about the Lime disease..I've heard of it but don't know much about it other than it's from ticks ????? could be an old wives tale, their always making up stories ((ducking behind the couch))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 01:24:04 PM
I have always thought Casey was a prime example of "arrested development."  So many things about her remind me of a pre-teen or middle schooler.  Writing her name on the notebook as Mrs. Anthony Lazarro, when she could not even spell his last name correctly is a good example of that teeny-bopper mindset.  How long had she known him then?  Two weeks?  Of course, she had probably slept with him.  Ha.

It may be that she is "stunted" or a sociopath or a combination of both.  Her lies were very immature ones, too.  Not telling the cops that her story about working at Universal was a lie until she had them in a building and down a hall.  That is something a fifth grader might do, but a 22 year old?

As for how she fooled so many people, most of us just naturally believe someone who says, "I work there" or "I went to Tampa" or whatever.  Why don't immediately think, "I'll bet she doesn't really work there."  And Casey went the extra mile of carrying around a folder that she called her "event planner" notebook. 

I do think her parents always knew or strongly suspected that she didn't have a job.  George said as much in an interview.  Cindy did not want him to confront Casey about it.  Cindy seems as vested in maintaining the lies as Casey does in some ways.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 01:24:49 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 01:25:48 PM

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Well I was doing better until anothermonkey started talking about drinking yogurt...now I'm feeling a little green behind the gills  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for your concern..and I can't wait to see the new outfit  ::MonkeyWink::

AM...I'm sorry to hear about the Lime disease..I've heard of it but don't know much about it other than it's from ticks ????? could be an old wives tale, they're always making up stories ((ducking behind the couch))

Self edit..had to type and run like he**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 01:27:05 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 01:28:12 PM
Babybear-you're right.  It's just been said that people think that the LE are letting her run with the lies and they'll tighten the noose more and more with every lie.

Am I wrong that the first recorded interview (at least the first one released) was in a conference room at Universal after she had marched down the hall, stopped and said she didn't work there?  IIRC that is when the cell phone discussion took place.  If it were in the conference room, it was after she admitted she didn't work at Universal. I know during this conversation she was confronted about hurting Caylee and did she fear people thinking less of her if so, and did she think Caylee was in a better place.  She was also asked if she thought she was helping the investigation by lying.  She said no.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 01:29:39 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 01:29:46 PM
**snipped for space**

Very interesting, do they actually believe all their lies are the truth, so in that way they are not to blame for any wrong doing. Where they can actually make themselves believe they have done nothing wrong.

I'm not really sure, no rose.  My ex is a lying professional.  I think that he knows he is lying and just doesn't care (no remorse).  I have caught him in soooooo many lies, confronted him with the truth w/evidence and he continues to this day (we have a son together) to lie to my face. 

I think that is what frustrates me about this case (with a long list of other reasons not related to this post).  Lie after lie after lie from KC's mouth proven to not be true yet G&C put on a show for the media.  I think either behind closed doors they knew from before Caylee went missing Casey was a compulsive liar, or they are completely ignorant. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 01:30:54 PM
I have been thinking about this..and i just wonder....Do yall think she actually is starting to beleive her own lies?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:31:39 PM
Babybear-you're right.  It's just been said that people think that the LE are letting her run with the lies and they'll tighten the noose more and more with every lie.

Am I wrong that the first recorded interview (at least the first one released) was in a conference room at Universal after she had marched down the hall, stopped and said she didn't work there?  IIRC that is when the cell phone discussion took place.  If it were in the conference room, it was after she admitted she didn't work at Universal. I know during this conversation she was confronted about hurting Caylee and did she fear people thinking less of her if so, and did she think Caylee was in a better place.  She was also asked if she thought she was helping the investigation by lying.  She said no.

You are right.  Assumption is that the LE is letting her go on and on with her lies so they can be used at trial by Prosecution.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:32:46 PM
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829)


Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

    * Disregard for right and wrong
    * Persistent lying or deceit
    * Using charm or wit to manipulate others
    * Recurring difficulties with the law
    * Repeatedly violating the rights of others
    * Child abuse or neglect
    * Intimidation of others
    * Aggressive or violent behavior
    * Lack of remorse about harming others
    * Impulsive behavior
    * Agitation
    * Poor or abusive relationships
    * Irresponsible work behavior

The intensity of antisocial symptoms tends to peak during the 20s and then may decrease over time. It's not clear whether this is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior. But while you might be less likely to commit crimes against others later in life, you may still have trouble functioning in relationships, work or school. .



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 01:33:01 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 01:33:23 PM
I have always thought Casey was a prime example of "arrested development."  So many things about her remind me of a pre-teen or middle schooler.  Writing her name on the notebook as Mrs. Anthony Lazarro, when she could not even spell his last name correctly is a good example of that teeny-bopper mindset.  How long had she known him then?  Two weeks?  Of course, she had probably slept with him.  Ha.

It may be that she is "stunted" or a sociopath or a combination of both.  Her lies were very immature ones, too.  Not telling the cops that her story about working at Universal was a lie until she had them in a building and down a hall.  That is something a fifth grader might do, but a 22 year old?

As for how she fooled so many people, most of us just naturally believe someone who says, "I work there" or "I went to Tampa" or whatever.  Why don't immediately think, "I'll bet she doesn't really work there."  And Casey went the extra mile of carrying around a folder that she called her "event planner" notebook. 

I do think her parents always knew or strongly suspected that she didn't have a job.  George said as much in an interview.  Cindy did not want him to confront Casey about it.  Cindy seems as vested in maintaining the lies as Casey does in some ways.
It really does appear she has arrested development, and my thoughts are could something have happened to her to cause this? It appears that the girl before giving birth to Caylee is different then the girl after giving birth to Caylee. Maybe I'm putting to much into this, and she is a sociopath and nothing more. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 01:35:05 PM
IMO Mark Nejame just wanted to give away any money he made from the anthony's.  So he gave it to the person he thought helped the little girl the most.  I think it is quite simple. 

Periwinkle....ITA



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829)


Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

    * Disregard for right and wrong
    * Persistent lying or deceit
    * Using charm or wit to manipulate others
    * Recurring difficulties with the law
    * Repeatedly violating the rights of others
    * Child abuse or neglect
    * Intimidation of others
    * Aggressive or violent behavior
    * Lack of remorse about harming others
    * Impulsive behavior
    * Agitation
    * Poor or abusive relationships
    * Irresponsible work behavior

The intensity of antisocial symptoms tends to peak during the 20s and then may decrease over time. It's not clear whether this is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior. But while you might be less likely to commit crimes against others later in life, you may still have trouble functioning in relationships, work or school. .


Thank-you that does sound like Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:35:40 PM
**snipped for space**

Very interesting, do they actually believe all their lies are the truth, so in that way they are not to blame for any wrong doing. Where they can actually make themselves believe they have done nothing wrong.

I'm not really sure, no rose.  My ex is a lying professional.  I think that he knows he is lying and just doesn't care (no remorse).  I have caught him in soooooo many lies, confronted him with the truth w/evidence and he continues to this day (we have a son together) to lie to my face. 

I think that is what frustrates me about this case (with a long list of other reasons not related to this post).  Lie after lie after lie from KC's mouth proven to not be true yet G&C put on a show for the media.  I think either behind closed doors they knew from before Caylee went missing Casey was a compulsive liar, or they are completely ignorant. 
IMO they know lies are lies.  However, if they admit this they are clearing the way for her to get the DP (if it gets put on the table).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 01:35:44 PM
Monken, those statements about a sociopath are very helpful.  Casey is constantly looking for sympathy or pity from others.  It is a weapon she uses against her parents all the time, as we have seen in the video interviews.  SHE is the victim.  SHE is in pain.  SHE has problems.  If her parents start to stand up for themselves, she threatens to hang up the phone or starts to blame them for anything that has gone wrong.  She quickly gets them, especially Cindy, back in line.  I can see Casey saying, "I don't want Caylee, but I will see her dead before Mom gets her."  I think she is jealous, resentful, spiteful and won't tolerate anyone else, even a baby, getting more attention or sympathy from people. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 01:36:02 PM
Leroy,

I hope that if you need a break from this maddness you most certainly come back when you feel better.  I know you have good intentions and I always enjoy you.  I know everyone has bad days.  I hope to see you back real soon!

((((hugs))))

Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 01:36:41 PM
I want to let every Monkey know that it is so refreshing to come here and see so many wonderful people that want justice for not only Caylee but NH, Adjir, etc.

Your efforts and determination to bring justice to these victims is amazing.

I truely believe that Caylee really will get the justice she deserves and all those involved will pay eventually....even if its not until their Judgement Day.

You are all such caring, compasionate monkeys - I wish the Anthony's would care about Caylee as much as you all do.

Muffy - I apologize that I offended you...that was not my intent.  OR any other monkey for that matter.  I honestly was not trying to stir up trouble and I'm sorry I came off that way.

All of us need a break from this madness and I think now is my time. God bless you all.


BuBuBu But Leroy!  Are you leaving forever and ever or just a break?!  I love those cute huge ears!  I'm sad  ::MonkeyWaa:: very very sad  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 01:37:12 PM
I have been thinking about this..and i just wonder....Do yall think she actually is starting to beleive her own lies?  ::MonkeyConfused::
That's what I'm thinking, you just starting believing the lies, there are so many lies, I would think eventually you don't know what is real or not real.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 01:37:26 PM
I want to let every Monkey know that it is so refreshing to come here and see so many wonderful people that want justice for not only Caylee but NH, Adjir, etc.

Your efforts and determination to bring justice to these victims is amazing.

I truely believe that Caylee really will get the justice she deserves and all those involved will pay eventually....even if its not until their Judgement Day.

You are all such caring, compasionate monkeys - I wish the Anthony's would care about Caylee as much as you all do.

Muffy - I apologize that I offended you...that was not my intent.  OR any other monkey for that matter.  I honestly was not trying to stir up trouble and I'm sorry I came off that way.

All of us need a break from this madness and I think now is my time. God bless you all.


Leroy no worries from me, I have seen much worse posted here.  It just seems like maybe a lot of OT today and maybe not enough coffee.  Lots of rubbing on of Vicks LMAO (geez I even contributed to that one) and foreign language instruction.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
Lovinlife, I think George and Cindy both know all to well what a liar Casey is.  When Cindy said, in one of the taped visits, "Look into my eyes, Casey.  I have to see your eyes," --- well, I think she had said that many times before, in the hope she could tell if Casey was lying.  I think they have had problems with Casey for years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:38:12 PM
I have always thought Casey was a prime example of "arrested development."  So many things about her remind me of a pre-teen or middle schooler.  Writing her name on the notebook as Mrs. Anthony Lazarro, when she could not even spell his last name correctly is a good example of that teeny-bopper mindset.  How long had she known him then?  Two weeks?  Of course, she had probably slept with him.  Ha.

It may be that she is "stunted" or a sociopath or a combination of both.  Her lies were very immature ones, too.  Not telling the cops that her story about working at Universal was a lie until she had them in a building and down a hall.  That is something a fifth grader might do, but a 22 year old?

As for how she fooled so many people, most of us just naturally believe someone who says, "I work there" or "I went to Tampa" or whatever.  Why don't immediately think, "I'll bet she doesn't really work there."  And Casey went the extra mile of carrying around a folder that she called her "event planner" notebook. 

I do think her parents always knew or strongly suspected that she didn't have a job.  George said as much in an interview.  Cindy did not want him to confront Casey about it.  Cindy seems as vested in maintaining the lies as Casey does in some ways.
It really does appear she has arrested development, and my thoughts are could something have happened to her to cause this? It appears that the girl before giving birth to Caylee is different then the girl after giving birth to Caylee. Maybe I'm putting to much into this, and she is a sociopath and nothing more. ::MonkeyConfused::

cindy has definitely enforced caseys behavior all the way. 'arrested development' can be a symptom of a number of disorders.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 01:38:31 PM
I want to let every Monkey know that it is so refreshing to come here and see so many wonderful people that want justice for not only Caylee but NH, Adjir, etc.

Your efforts and determination to bring justice to these victims is amazing.

I truely believe that Caylee really will get the justice she deserves and all those involved will pay eventually....even if its not until their Judgement Day.

You are all such caring, compasionate monkeys - I wish the Anthony's would care about Caylee as much as you all do.

Muffy - I apologize that I offended you...that was not my intent.  OR any other monkey for that matter.  I honestly was not trying to stir up trouble and I'm sorry I came off that way.

All of us need a break from this madness and I think now is my time. God bless you all.



Leroy ~  ((hugs)) No need for you to go anywhere.  I believe you want answers and justice for Caylee.  As I said, we all go OT, especially when it's slow.  Some OT is expected, but let's keep in mind subject matter in missing person's threads.  So, get back in here and post, okay Leroy? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 01:38:31 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
I think that is why her parents treat her like they do. They don't want the fits and are a little afraid of her. They know it is being video taped and have to keep everything nice and you can tell when she starts the anger thing Cindy tries to calm her and then when she keeps wanting to talk to her dad Cindy gives the phone up because they are trying to keep her in balance. I think this video is very telling of the whole family and their behavior. Shame on them for not getting ahold of the situation before it came to murder of Caylee. I think they carry on the lies and deceit because of the guilt of that and partially take the blame.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL

IMHO his conspiracy theory meter was up.  Missing tape, so must be police misconduct -- at least in his mind.  Bet he was surprised 
(http://i43.tinypic.com/103vptw.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
With all the recent developments and the vacant home, does anyone know if LE has had cadaver dogs search there?  Just thinking that Casey could have had Caylee there prior to placing her on Suburban?  Interested to know if her car was ever seen near that house?

I don't know if there has been anything official about the abandoned home and if it's been searched.  I sure hope it has.

I heard that they did have cadaver dogs there early on.  Found nothing (but they also had dogs in the woods where Caylee was found and nothing...).  I still wonder if an ALIVE Caylee was ever there.  And if the "keys" were for something other than a car...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 16, 2009, 01:43:21 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 01:43:42 PM
I want to let every Monkey know that it is so refreshing to come here and see so many wonderful people that want justice for not only Caylee but NH, Adjir, etc.

Your efforts and determination to bring justice to these victims is amazing.

I truely believe that Caylee really will get the justice she deserves and all those involved will pay eventually....even if its not until their Judgement Day.

You are all such caring, compasionate monkeys - I wish the Anthony's would care about Caylee as much as you all do.

Muffy - I apologize that I offended you...that was not my intent.  OR any other monkey for that matter.  I honestly was not trying to stir up trouble and I'm sorry I came off that way.

All of us need a break from this madness and I think now is my time. God bless you all.



I understand how you feel Leroy, sometimes I wish I could go a whole day without turning on my computer, and just spend more time doing other things. Instead I find myself devoting too much time here, through no ones fault but my own! I keep up with this case mostly on the computer at SM & all the Orlando news sites. I don't even watch NG alot, only if I can get ahold of the remote!
Enjoy your time away from all the madness, just hurry back soon! Well, you know what I mean. This is this best site to discuss all the madness going on out of Orlando, because it takes the madness and puts all the reality back into it. Hope that made sense! Take care Leroy, and do come back soon!!


Remember, Monkeys Rule!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 01:44:29 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.
She said  "Love thy Neighbor" and "Give unto others"  I think one of the monkeys then said has she ever heard of Thou Shalt Not Kill.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: goodnmad on January 16, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
post and run ...

"What am I supposed to learn from that?"

Hmm, well, Casey let's see.

How about you learn NOT TO MURDER YOUR DAUGHTER?????

That would be the lesson here.  ::MonkeyRoll::  ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 01:45:57 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL

Well, if he is going for some kind of mental defect defense, may be it was the perfect video to release!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Is being a sociopath a personality disorder?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
Lovinlife, I think George and Cindy both know all to well what a liar Casey is.  When Cindy said, in one of the taped visits, "Look into my eyes, Casey.  I have to see your eyes," --- well, I think she had said that many times before, in the hope she could tell if Casey was lying.  I think they have had problems with Casey for years.

ITA, as usual. ::MonkeyHaHa:: I was trying to say that George and Cindy have known for much, much longer than we have that Casey is a liar.  My posting is not even close to being as eloquent as yours.  Seems that G&C have been trying to convince themselves that she is not lying ("the dead body in the car was not my grandaughter" and Cindy with the whole pizza story) to make themselves feel better or look better in the public which has backfired.  I agree her lies will be her demise and thought that from day1.  I was trying to say that my ex knew he was lying ~ he did not beleive his lies to be true.  Trying to pull the corrilation that Casey does know she is lying and does not beleive her lies to be true either.  OK, pushing post now, this makes no sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:48:11 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL

Well, if he is going for some kind of mental defect defense, may be it was the perfect video to release!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Is being a sociopath a personality disorder?

yes, its antisocial personality disorder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:49:39 PM
With all the recent developments and the vacant home, does anyone know if LE has had cadaver dogs search there?  Just thinking that Casey could have had Caylee there prior to placing her on Suburban?  Interested to know if her car was ever seen near that house?

I don't know if there has been anything official about the abandoned home and if it's been searched.  I sure hope it has.

I heard that they did have cadaver dogs there early on.  Found nothing (but they also had dogs in the woods where Caylee was found and nothing...).  I still wonder if an ALIVE Caylee was ever there.  And if the "keys" were for something other than a car...
I must be behind because I thought the vacant home issue was new with the disclosure of the tape Hoover released?  I'd also been under the assumption that the dogs hadn't been to where the remains were found.  What "keys" are you referring to?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 01:53:11 PM

cindy has definitely enforced caseys behavior all the way. 'arrested development' can be a symptom of a number of disorders.


I just wanted to stop by your post to say:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/NoDramaMomma1/welcome255Fto255Fgroup0.gif)

::MonkeyDance::  GLAD TO HAVE YOU IN THE CAGE PEANUT   ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. your kitty is so cute!! (http://th171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/modVentarion/cute%20stuff/th_monkey.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
The vacant house is just now news to us because of the tape.  However, I thought I  heard Kathy Belich say that the Le had dogs out there early on.
Dogs had been out to where Caylee was and that is one of the reasons that Roy Kronks 1st and 2nd calls were not heeded.  They must not have been in the exact area though or maybe there was water right where she was.  Although they say that those dogs can still find a body in water.
THe keys I am refering to are the keys that Lee found and referenced back to Amy that he destroyed.  I just wonder if there is more than just a car key he is talking about.  This house just seems suspicious to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: WesleyBear on January 16, 2009, 01:54:57 PM
Just wanted to say hello to everyone.  Also I was reading earlier, that someone was wondering why Casey kept her pregnancy a secret for a while.  I was thinking it was probabaly because she wasn't ready to give up her party life yet.  So she couldn't be drinking around people who knew she was pregnant.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 01:55:37 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL

Well, if he is going for some kind of mental defect defense, may be it was the perfect video to release!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Is being a sociopath a personality disorder?

yes, its antisocial personality disorder.

So is sociopath=antisocial personality disorder?  Or are the two different classifications?  TYIA because I'm  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 01:55:54 PM
Just wanted to say hello to everyone.  Also I was reading earlier, that someone was wondering why Casey kept her pregnancy a secret for a while.  I was thinking it was probabaly because she wasn't ready to give up her party life yet.  So she couldn't be drinking around people who knew she was pregnant.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:56:44 PM

cindy has definitely enforced caseys behavior all the way. 'arrested development' can be a symptom of a number of disorders.


I just wanted to stop by your post to say:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/NoDramaMomma1/welcome255Fto255Fgroup0.gif)

::MonkeyDance::  GLAD TO HAVE YOU IN THE CAGE PEANUT   ::MonkeyDance::


p.s. your kitty is so cute!! (http://th171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/modVentarion/cute%20stuff/th_monkey.gif)


thank you very much quiet monkey! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Muffy Bee, you've caused a heck of a lot of concern on the forum lately  ::MonkeyWaa::  Glad to see you!!

I've been out with a bout of pneumonia.  It's good to see you, anothermonkey.


I finally felt well enough to log on and try to catch up on Caylee's case.  And I see Leroy's post, which I don't care if it's Aussie, Zimbabwean, or whatever, but I find it inappropriate for this thread.  We all engage in a certain amount of ot, discussing children, pets and etc.  And Leroy, you were the one whining last week about only certain people can go OT.  It isn't which posters, it's subject matter.  Leroy, that "crack sh*t" stuff doesn't belong on this thread. 

Muffy...it's good to see you again!  We were concerned if you were okay...please take good care of yourself...so many monkeys have been sick lately..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dejasade on January 16, 2009, 01:58:41 PM
Just wanted to say hello to everyone.  Also I was reading earlier, that someone was wondering why Casey kept her pregnancy a secret for a while.  I was thinking it was probabaly because she wasn't ready to give up her party life yet.  So she couldn't be drinking around people who knew she was pregnant.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's a great observation, Wesleybear!!!  I agree wholeheartadly with ye.
I think she was also young...and naive and not ready to be a mother - OBVIOUSLY!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL

Well, if he is going for some kind of mental defect defense, may be it was the perfect video to release!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Is being a sociopath a personality disorder?

yes, its antisocial personality disorder.

So is sociopath=antisocial personality disorder?  Or are the two different classifications?  TYIA because I'm  ::MonkeyConfused::

yeppers. sociopath = antisocial personality disorder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dejasade on January 16, 2009, 02:00:05 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:01:34 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 02:02:38 PM
The vacant house is just now news to us because of the tape.  However, I thought I  heard Kathy Belich say that the Le had dogs out there early on.
Dogs had been out to where Caylee was and that is one of the reasons that Roy Kronks 1st and 2nd calls were not heeded.  They must not have been in the exact area though or maybe there was water right where she was.  Although they say that those dogs can still find a body in water.
THe keys I am refering to are the keys that Lee found and referenced back to Amy that he destroyed.  I just wonder if there is more than just a car key he is talking about.  This house just seems suspicious to me.
Thanks for the info.  Always possible to miss something with this case as things continually coming out.  Makes you wonder "What's going to happen next"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
Does anyone here ever watch Extreme Forensics on Investigation Discovery Channel?  It is GREAT!  It really amazes me the convictions they get based on one key piece of evidence.  Amazing.  And it really makes me feel more and more confident in the case against Casey.  There will be so much forensic science against her that she will be convicted.  Even if she does have a dream team of scientists trying to get her off.

Abraham Lincoln:
How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four; calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.


Even scientists can't dispute that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Hmmm.  Isn't the Russian Bride thing when Russian women marry someone in the states and not the other way around?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 02:02:55 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::

That is the most ridiculous thing.......oh, wait.   Are we talking about KC?  Probably true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 02:04:24 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hey Lucinda, LOVE you ava. Brandi did a great job! (as always) hope you are feeling better! i'm not sure if you read my response to you the other day, but i meant it! if you want my e-mail just let me know.

sorry o/t
i am getting ready to go to the closing on my house! i kinda feel like i could cry, is this normal or am i crazy?

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.
She said  "Love thy Neighbor" and "Give unto others"  I think one of the monkeys then said has she ever heard of Thou Shalt Not Kill.

Thanks dottie...I couldn't remember exactly what she said..but I remember the monkey comment..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:04:51 PM
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/persdisorders.html (http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/persdisorders.html)

Did a quick search and this came up.  I haven't had a chance to read it so if it stinks, my bad.  Going to make more coffee.

Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dejasade on January 16, 2009, 02:04:56 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Hmmm.  Isn't the Russian Bride thing when Russian women marry someone in the states and not the other way around?

....that is what I thought.  Just a rumour...read it on a different site.
the case is ridiculous...so who knows! Maybe Lee hired one!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:05:09 PM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

Welcome Texanne - it's hard to listen to her isn't it.  Actually hard to listen to all of them, especially now.

The tape was painful to watch and listen to.  I thought it was the most telling of all we've seen.  Casey is a spoiled brat.  Cindy was trying to probe information out of Casey because she seemed to know that Casey is the one who killed Cindy. George was trying to keep both Cindy and Casey calm - Casey was angry; Cindy was in pain.

One thing's for sure - Casey doesn't like the press!  ha!  The press is probably the only thing in her life that she can't control - therefore a lot of anger.  Also the one thing she wants is to talk to Lee.  And, of course, it's all about her....what's been taken away from her!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:07:27 PM
Klaas, is this what Red was referring to last week??????? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:09:04 PM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?

I think LE will have to be very careful about giving Lee immunity - or - the kind of immunity they give him.  The last thing we would want to see happen is for Lee to get total immunity and then turn around and say:  I'm the one who killed Caylee...it wasn't Casey, it was me.
He's off free because of immunity; Casey's off free, too.

THAT..we don't want to happen.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: texanne on January 16, 2009, 02:09:54 PM
I don't think she was dumb at all but I do think she was lazy.  I believe that she also feels she is a lot smarter than she is.



I had to copy and paste the above sentence being that I'm not too computer savvy.  My ex sister-in-law is a sociopath and it is true that they think they can outsmart everyone else.  She honestly thinks this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 02:10:07 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.

I think that was just a comment another poster made in sarcasm when KC used the do unto others line...I 'm pretty sure




Okay, SS.  Are you now telling me that I'm hearing things?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Did you hear KC say this ?? I might have missed it..  ::MonkeyConfused::




SS, I swear I did.  Oh my.  Now I'm going to have to go back and listen to that LONG crazy tape, again.  I need to go take a couple of Asprin and get a cigarette first. 




Okay, I'm back after another 31 minute eye rolling experience listening to the Aug. tapes.  I'm sorry.  I was wrong, wrong, wrong.  KC did not say anything about the "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Commandment.  I have no idea where my mind came-up with that after listening to the tape the first time yest.     ::MonkeyConfused:: 

I did made notes of a few interesting things, though.  (Wish I took shorthand.)  For the first 10 minutes, I really didn't take anything that her folks said as asking her questions, but she immediately went on the defense as if they did.   Guess that wouldn't really be that abnormal for her, though.

One of her statements I found very interesting was: "Even though random people we haven't met have more of an outlook on this." 

Also, the way she talked about being seperated from her dad for a long time and just getting back together (not a quote) made me believe that GA had only "recently" come back into the picture.  I know that he and SinCin were seperated, but thought he came back not too long after Caylee was born.  That would have been 2+ years before.

When they talk about Caylee's birthday, they refer to it as "Last Saturday."  After listening to the tape for the second time, I still didn't hear anyone say it was Caylee's birthday.  What made me sick to my stomach was when KC talked about her spending the day (Sat), laying in bed, her head covered-up, etc. and says how much it hurt, and that she's still trying to recover from that.  Even for a sociopath, I found that a really odd statement.  But, I know some of you can relate to sociopath's behavior and it probably makes sense to you.

As far as the Commandments, the only one she quoted was "Love Thy Neighbor."  I think she thinks that's a literal statement and doesn't apply to one's child.  She also said, "Share With Others," and "Give Unto Others."  That was when they were talking about the young male stranger who spent part of Sat. (Caylee's birthday, I guess) with them.  So, it appears that she's not studing the Ten Commandments nor getting anything out of the invisible Bible she's reading.

She only referred to Caylee as her "kid" once:  "All I want is my kid back & my family." 

As we all know, she, KC, was the main attraction.  "I need to be looked at as a victim because I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you."

Now, need to catch-up again.    (Can't get Spell Check to work, so the heck with mispelled words.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 02:10:35 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hey Lucinda, LOVE you ava. Brandi did a great job! (as always) hope you are feeling better! i'm not sure if you read my response to you the other day, but i meant it! if you want my e-mail just let me know.

sorry o/t
i am getting ready to go to the closing on my house! i kinda feel like i could cry, is this normal or am i crazy?

wendi

of course you are..but you can cry too  ::MonkeyWink:: I would think that if you've been there a long time..it would be very upsetting ..

(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Hugs/hugs-4.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 02:10:35 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Hmmm.  Isn't the Russian Bride thing when Russian women marry someone in the states and not the other way around?

....that is what I thought.  Just a rumour...read it on a different site.
the case is ridiculous...so who knows! Maybe Lee hired one!!!

He probably did. HA  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way I love your avatar. I have a German Shepherd to. He is almost 5 and a big ole baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dejasade on January 16, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
I don't know if this is a rumour or not...but I heard that Casey tried that Russian bride thing a while back?

might be a rumour.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Hmmm.  Isn't the Russian Bride thing when Russian women marry someone in the states and not the other way around?

....that is what I thought.  Just a rumour...read it on a different site.
the case is ridiculous...so who knows! Maybe Lee hired one!!!

He probably did. HA  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way I love your avatar. I have a German Shepherd to. He is almost 5 and a big ole baby.

Thank you..mine's 4 - and he's a big ole babe too (most of the time)  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 02:13:03 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:14:49 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



I am going to have to read this over and over to understand it completely but....  WOW.  That's all I can say at this point.  Wow...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 02:16:38 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

At the end of the article it says Post by Blink34 - what does that mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
One thing I noted about the tape....for all of Cindy's being in control over everthing...the one thing she was not in control over was that meeting/phone conversation with Casey.
Cindy was definately not in control of that meeting - it was Casey.  Wonder if that's they way it was most of the time in the house when Casey was there?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 02:18:01 PM
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/persdisorders.html (http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/persdisorders.html)

Did a quick search and this came up.  I haven't had a chance to read it so if it stinks, my bad.  Going to make more coffee.

Lovin

i also posted this one earlier:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829)

Symptoms

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

    * Disregard for right and wrong
    * Persistent lying or deceit
    * Using charm or wit to manipulate others
    * Recurring difficulties with the law
    * Repeatedly violating the rights of others
    * Child abuse or neglect
    * Intimidation of others
    * Aggressive or violent behavior
    * Lack of remorse about harming others
    * Impulsive behavior
    * Agitation
    * Poor or abusive relationships
    * Irresponsible work behavior

The intensity of antisocial symptoms tends to peak during the 20s and then may decrease over time. It's not clear whether this is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior. But while you might be less likely to commit crimes against others later in life, you may still have trouble functioning in relationships, work or school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:18:34 PM
Klaas, is this what Red was referring to last week??????? ::MonkeyDance::

Not sure...maybe  ::MonkeyWink::  I'll ask him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:19:06 PM
One thing I noted about the tape....for all of Cindy's being in control over everthing...the one thing she was not in control over was that meeting/phone conversation with Casey.
Cindy was definately not in control of that meeting - it was Casey.  Wonder if that's they way it was most of the time in the house when Casey was there?



 I am thinking that there definately would have been a power struggle between the 2 of them constantly.  At the point of the video, everyone is ackowledging KC's control because they want Caylee back.  They know need KC to do that.  It is so sad to watch that knowing now that Caylee was gone the whole time.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:19:55 PM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

You can see Cindy closely scrutinizing KC's face after she says it.

It was strange to hear Cindy very pitifully asking Casey if Casey still thought Caylee would come home, if she was close.  I think Cindy was practically begging Casey to say some words that would be comforting to Cindy (because Cindy is trying very hard not to believe that Caylee is dead).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 02:20:35 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

Yeah me too. ::MonkeyEek:: I mean if she did give a fake name why go and pay the ticket? Don't places like that have camera's? I guess it wasn't much of a issue then but it would be interesting to see the copy of the ticket and where they got pulled over at.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

At the end of the article it says Post by Blink34 - what does that mean?

Blink34 is a fellow Monkey Sleuth.  They posted that blog entry based on their own investigation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:21:34 PM
Klaas, is this what Red was referring to last week??????? ::MonkeyDance::

Not sure...maybe  ::MonkeyWink::  I'll ask him.

Thanks Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

Yeah me too. ::MonkeyEek:: I mean if she did give a fake name why go and pay the ticket? Don't places like that have camera's? I guess it wasn't much of a issue then but it would be interesting to see the copy of the ticket and where they got pulled over at.

She is not the brightest crayon in the box.  SHe signed her own name to Amy's checks and did it on cameras then too.  She is not a smart monkey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 02:22:02 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


WOW, I'm Speechless!  ::MonkeyEek::  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 02:22:37 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.


whoa. ::MonkeyEek::

i cant see annies myspace, is there anything pertinent in there about this?

Yeah me too. ::MonkeyEek:: I mean if she did give a fake name why go and pay the ticket? Don't places like that have camera's? I guess it wasn't much of a issue then but it would be interesting to see the copy of the ticket and where they got pulled over at.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
Ok.  So if it means truth may come out, do we vote that Lee gets immunity or not.  Now really think about this...  TRUTH.   Coming out.  ???  ANd do we think it really will come out?  Will he throw casey under the bus?

I think LE will have to be very careful about giving Lee immunity - or - the kind of immunity they give him.  The last thing we would want to see happen is for Lee to get total immunity and then turn around and say:  I'm the one who killed Caylee...it wasn't Casey, it was me.
He's off free because of immunity; Casey's off free, too.

THAT..we don't want to happen.



ITA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:22:49 PM
Klaas, is this what Red was referring to last week??????? ::MonkeyDance::

Not sure...maybe  ::MonkeyWink::  I'll ask him.

Thanks Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::

The answer is yes! See his post from last week below.

Check this out -- Monkeys are getting famous --  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

snipped -- Incredible research and investigating by the bloggers over at "Scared Monkeys" website, has produced an amazing theory. If it holds correct, it could be a potential bombshell for the prosecution.

Here is the whole article -- congratulations to those Monkeys who figured all of this out!
http://spoiledmom-mommyconfessions.blogspot.com/2009/01/casey-anthonys-lies-have-bloggers.html

Could Zenaida Gonzalez have been Code for Caylee Anthony’s Location and Not Just a Nanny’s Name?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

Sorry did not say this yesterday but have been swamped with numerous cases that have suddenly come to a fever pitch and battling bad bronchitis.

I just want to say KUDOS to all of you that came up with and worked on the Zanny - Gonzales property theory. One would have to think that there is too much of a coincidence for this to not have some relevance.

GREAT JOB ALL.

All I did was wrap your theories up into a nice little package and a pretty little bow and present it to the masses. A nice little link and story that can be sent to media, LE, etc.

Fantastic job.

Wait til a little bit as there is another Zanny reference that will make you go hmm as well. That is in the works and will be presented soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 02:25:08 PM

To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.



I can't speak for Luckycharms, but I can say that honestly Casey's problem isn't a lack of discipline, it's a lack of conscience. Stricter punishments would have made her a meaner person towards others, and stricter towards her daughter, but they would not have instilled a conscience in her.

Everyone is assuming that because Casey's parents didn't punish her much as an adult, that they didn't punish her as a child, but that doesn't follow at all.  If there hadn't been some pretty stiff and certain punishments in the beginning, Casey would never have learned to lie at all. 

Kids lie to escape punishment. If there's no punishment, then they'll just say "yes, I broke that glass." or whatever. Casey learned to lie to get out being punished. She may also have learned to imitate Cindy's way of lying to protect the family.


[/quote]
Fuzz, IMO, I don't think it's so much the lack of punishment that encouraged KC to continue with her lies and charades, but rather the fact that her parents were encouraging her misbehavior by covering for her lies, stealing, etc. rather than making her responsible for her own actions.   This even goes back to her childhood when CinCin went to a party and repremanded children for not play nicely with KC.   
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I forgot about that. IMO that was a "my kid's better than your kid" situation. I think Cin's family has always had it backwards.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 02:26:33 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

At the end of the article it says Post by Blink34 - what does that mean?
She is a member here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 02:27:25 PM
Babybear-you're right.  It's just been said that people think that the LE are letting her run with the lies and they'll tighten the noose more and more with every lie.

Am I wrong that the first recorded interview (at least the first one released) was in a conference room at Universal after she had marched down the hall, stopped and said she didn't work there?  IIRC that is when the cell phone discussion took place.  If it were in the conference room, it was after she admitted she didn't work at Universal. I know during this conversation she was confronted about hurting Caylee and did she fear people thinking less of her if so, and did she think Caylee was in a better place.  She was also asked if she thought she was helping the investigation by lying.  She said no.

You are right.  Assumption is that the LE is letting her go on and on with her lies so they can be used at trial by Prosecution.

If that's the case, they got a lot of ammunition.  It's just astounding to me that anyone could actually be confronted and agree they are lying and then just continue to do it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 02:29:42 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Baez chose that video to be released....It made Casey look even worse, if that is possible....And I didnt think it was....LOL




Nikki, I still contend that he knows she's a dead-duck, thus he has no problem (maybe wouldn't otherwise, either) throwing her under the bus and getting his worldly $$$$ reward so that he can retire from his current worthless business of being a STUPHEAD lawyer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 02:31:21 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 02:31:50 PM
Now on two jail visits with George and Cindy, Cindy asked Casey is there anything you want me to tell Zanny, both times Casey said tell her I forgive her. Maybe Casey was really asking for forgiveness, if this latest entry is true, if she did have an id with Zenaida's name on it. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 02:33:33 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


IMO this is the face that Caylee saw as she was being wrapped in duct tape.  Not pretty.  Not pretty at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
Now on two jail visits with George and Cindy, Cindy asked Casey is there anything you want me to tell Zanny, both times Casey said tell her I forgive her. Maybe Casey was really asking for forgiveness, if this latest entry is true, if she did have an id with Zenaida's name on it. ::MonkeyEek::
Wow No Rose, that sheds a whole new light on things doesn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:33:58 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

Yeah me too. ::MonkeyEek:: I mean if she did give a fake name why go and pay the ticket? Don't places like that have camera's? I guess it wasn't much of a issue then but it would be interesting to see the copy of the ticket and where they got pulled over at.

She is not the brightest crayon in the box.  SHe signed her own name to Amy's checks and did it on cameras then too.  She is not a smart monkey


Periwinkle,bite you tongue...she's No monkey.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 02:34:16 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 02:34:54 PM
Now on two jail visits with George and Cindy, Cindy asked Casey is there anything you want me to tell Zanny, both times Casey said tell her I forgive her. Maybe Casey was really asking for forgiveness, if this latest entry is true, if she did have an id with Zenaida's name on it. ::MonkeyEek::
Wow No Rose, that sheds a whole new light on things doesn't it?

This is really fascinating, and scary at the same time. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:35:35 PM
Monken, those statements about a sociopath are very helpful.  Casey is constantly looking for sympathy or pity from others.  It is a weapon she uses against her parents all the time, as we have seen in the video interviews.  SHE is the victim.  SHE is in pain.  SHE has problems.  If her parents start to stand up for themselves, she threatens to hang up the phone or starts to blame them for anything that has gone wrong.  She quickly gets them, especially Cindy, back in line.  I can see Casey saying, "I don't want Caylee, but I will see her dead before Mom gets her."  I think she is jealous, resentful, spiteful and won't tolerate anyone else, even a baby, getting more attention or sympathy from people. 

Yes.

And IMO the tape is very telling...it shows that Casey is really the "controller" in the Anthony household.  Everytime we see a video of George, Cindy or Lee with Casey, they're all bending over backwards to talk with her and not get the wrath of Casey's anger.  She's a very angry person and I think that started many years ago when she realized that spouting off anger would get people to jump to her conclusions (think about the birthday party for Casey's friend and Casey calling home angry that everyone was paying attention to the birthday girl and not Casey....this manipulation by Casey goes back many years).

I'm thinking that the master manipulator, Casey, is really the one that controls the Anthony's household and that Cindy, comes in second and controller over George.  Obviously, and you can see it in the tape, Cindy has no control over Casey.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:36:16 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.

I think I'm gonna puke.  At work we call this the "AAHHHHHAAA" moment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 02:36:56 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


OMG!!! Just reminded me of CA telling FBI that the officer grabbed a paper out of KC wallet. Which Monkey is driving to the court house now?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 02:37:57 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:38:41 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

Yeah me too. ::MonkeyEek:: I mean if she did give a fake name why go and pay the ticket? Don't places like that have camera's? I guess it wasn't much of a issue then but it would be interesting to see the copy of the ticket and where they got pulled over at.

She is not the brightest crayon in the box.  SHe signed her own name to Amy's checks and did it on cameras then too.  She is not a smart monkey


Periwinkle,bite you tongue...she's No monkey.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Oops.  I didn't mean to imply that!  Yikes!  You are sooo right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:38:48 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.

I think I'm gonna puke.  At work we call this the "AAHHHHHAAA" moment.


I think Blink is right. Going to make more coffee. Wow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


OMG!!! Just reminded me of CA telling FBI that the officer grabbed a paper out of KC wallet. Which Monkey is driving to the court house now?????

Yes.  There was a lot of talk about ID's and wallets and bags that first night out.  WHAT IF....  Lee knew this?  And this is part of his aiding and abeting.  ALong with deleting things off Casey's comp.? (just my opinion that he may have done that.  NOT FACT)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:40:49 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 02:41:56 PM
I can't figure out why Casey seems to have such faith in Jose.  I'm sure she watched some of the coverage while she was out those few weeks.  She has to realize that he doesn't, at least in the press, seem to be held out as the worlds greatest attorney.  She hasn't been with him that much in Court to observe him.  He hasn't been practicing long enough to have a impressive record or even much experience.  He hasn't had any high profile past clients that he's gotten off.  So why does she seem so confident in someone that she located after getting a recommendation from strangers in booking?

Is it because of the money factor?  Is it something else?  Is he telling her what she wants to hear?  I'm don't get it.  Her family has all but said to her during visitation they don't like him.    Heck, maybe that is it.




Cheeky Monk, remember that KC spent week after week alone with Biaz in his office.  Although it can't be proved, one can imagine what transpired.  She is totally enamored of him.  He has only fed her info that he wants her to know or believe, and has convinced her, for his own personal/financial gain, not to trust anyone else but him.  It wouldn't have taken a rocket scientists to convince her not to have contact with the outside world because the news media would have a field day with it.  Anyway, that's just my opinion.   


I totally agree.  Casey sees Jose as a "powerful" person.  He has NO doubt fed her a line. 

The fact that George and Cindy don't like him only makes her want him more.  I bet it was the same way when she'd bring a boyfriend home they didn't like.

Baez is quite comfortable with the control he has right now... Dollar signs are popping in his head.  IMO he has already drained alot of the funds. 

I would bet that when the trial is over and the experts on his defense team want to be paid, they will play hell collecting....if they ever do.

I have thought Casey might have developed "Stockholm Syndrome."  I know that Baez isn't keeping her captive, but he is the only contact she has with the outside world and she has come to rely on him to the exclusion of others, including her family.  I too think there was something not quite right with their relationship before she was jailed this last time, the "My girl" comment and the many hours in his office, not to mention the report that they had to be practically physically separated when Baez visited the jail.  A psychologist said on NG I think, that the smile she flashed when she was to be taken from the courtroom last week was the smile of a teenager with a huge crush. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:42:20 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember that Casey talks in her first police questioning about Zenaida and Casey tells them that Zenaida has a seasonal Universal Studios employee badge.  Wonder if that fits in somehow?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 16, 2009, 02:42:43 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

I hope so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 02:43:30 PM
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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



Wow, I have no words.  I have always wondered whether there was a connection to the office break in and that would explain it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 02:43:55 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 02:44:55 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


OMG!!! Just reminded me of CA telling FBI that the officer grabbed a paper out of KC wallet. Which Monkey is driving to the court house now?????

I am so confused.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 02:46:24 PM
Please no nanner throwing TYIA!  In regards to the Bible verses, which I will have to go back and listen to again because I missed that part, but one poster said it was "Thou shalt not kill" and something else that struck me as something a child would learn in first grade vacation bible school and not something that someone would reference that had been reading the bible for comfort for 30 days.  JMO, Lovin

P.S.  Muffy, I hope this isn't to "religious" for this forum thread, if so, I apologize.

I didn't hear her say "Thou shall not kill," but that is one of the biggies.
She said  "Love thy Neighbor" and "Give unto others"  I think one of the monkeys then said has she ever heard of Thou Shalt Not Kill.

Well, she certainly did "Give unto others" although not in the way the bible probably intended.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 02:46:43 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember that Casey talks in her first police questioning about Zenaida and Casey tells them that Zenaida has a seasonal Universal Studios employee badge.  Wonder if that fits in somehow?


Klaas, as usual your one step ahead!! I believe that is the lanyard that suddenly comes up missing out of the garage Cindy references that is "shamrock" beads. I fear that lanyard may have been recovered at the scene as well, but cant confirm. I am working on a piece relative to that next.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
I have always thought Casey was a prime example of "arrested development."  So many things about her remind me of a pre-teen or middle schooler.  Writing her name on the notebook as Mrs. Anthony Lazarro, when she could not even spell his last name correctly is a good example of that teeny-bopper mindset.  How long had she known him then?  Two weeks?  Of course, she had probably slept with him.  Ha.

It may be that she is "stunted" or a sociopath or a combination of both.  Her lies were very immature ones, too.  Not telling the cops that her story about working at Universal was a lie until she had them in a building and down a hall.  That is something a fifth grader might do, but a 22 year old?

As for how she fooled so many people, most of us just naturally believe someone who says, "I work there" or "I went to Tampa" or whatever.  Why don't immediately think, "I'll bet she doesn't really work there."  And Casey went the extra mile of carrying around a folder that she called her "event planner" notebook. 

I do think her parents always knew or strongly suspected that she didn't have a job.  George said as much in an interview.  Cindy did not want him to confront Casey about it.  Cindy seems as vested in maintaining the lies as Casey does in some ways.
It really does appear she has arrested development, and my thoughts are could something have happened to her to cause this? It appears that the girl before giving birth to Caylee is different then the girl after giving birth to Caylee. Maybe I'm putting to much into this, and she is a sociopath and nothing more. ::MonkeyConfused::

cindy has definitely enforced caseys behavior all the way. 'arrested development' can be a symptom of a number of disorders.



Peanut, I totally agree.  And, I don't think this just started three years ago.  SinCin, and probably GA have been validating KC's mis-behaving probably since her childhood by letting her get by with most anything. 

I know a lot of parents who do this because it's easier for them to just give-in rather than taking on the role of true parenting (preparing the child for the real world out there), which a lot of times is difficult, uncomfortable and takes time away from ones self.  That doesn't mean that KC wouldn't have been a sociopath.  Maybe, just not as bad of a one.  IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: texanne on January 16, 2009, 02:47:13 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

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Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.


Hot Digitty Dog!!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: Way to Go BLINK34!!!!!!!  ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Blink - great job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 02:48:49 PM
JMO.....seems to me that when CA tells KC that "people are saying Caylee is dead, that she drowned in the pool", it was to get a reaction out of KC since she wasn't telling them anything.  KC then says something like, "that figures" and then realizes that's probably not what she should've said and then goes on about other stuff that is being said in the media, etc.  I stopped watching it right after that.........couldn't stand to keep hearing her sorry a$$.  ::MonkeyEek::

Welcome Texanne - it's hard to listen to her isn't it.  Actually hard to listen to all of them, especially now.

The tape was painful to watch and listen to.  I thought it was the most telling of all we've seen.  Casey is a spoiled brat.  Cindy was trying to probe information out of Casey because she seemed to know that Casey is the one who killed Cindy. George was trying to keep both Cindy and Casey calm - Casey was angry; Cindy was in pain.

One thing's for sure - Casey doesn't like the press!  ha!  The press is probably the only thing in her life that she can't control - therefore a lot of anger.  Also the one thing she wants is to talk to Lee.  And, of course, it's all about her....what's been taken away from her!



I thought her response was "Surprise, surprise."  I probably need one of those gadgets advertised on TV all the time that you put on your ear and hear people 80 feet away, or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 02:48:55 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.
Is that you Blink?  ::MonkeyWink:: Amazing work!!! I had to  go read it again. Way to go!!  ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.



Holy cow.  Someone did a great job whoever this Blink person is.

Amazing sleuthing.  Maybe this is why they don't care about the abandoned house.  They have much much more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Blink - great job!

Thank you Blink!  Lots of work that we all appreciate!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 02:50:42 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::


Great work!  Superb!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 02:50:55 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.

I think I'm gonna puke.  At work we call this the "AAHHHHHAAA" moment.


I think Blink is right. Going to make more coffee. Wow.

Hey, wasn't 5/24 the evening of the "no-clothes" party?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Blink - great job!

Great to job to Klaasend in the art and editing process as usual ( I call Klass Magicklaas) and of course the chief, R.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:51:04 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good Sleuthing!  Way to go!  That is just so confusing.  I am PROUD of you for putting all this together!  yOu deserve and "Atta-Girl"!  As my gramps used to say to me. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 16, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.



I can't speak for Luckycharms, but I can say that honestly Casey's problem isn't a lack of discipline, it's a lack of conscience. Stricter punishments would have made her a meaner person towards others, and stricter towards her daughter, but they would not have instilled a conscience in her.

Everyone is assuming that because Casey's parents didn't punish her much as an adult, that they didn't punish her as a child, but that doesn't follow at all.  If there hadn't been some pretty stiff and certain punishments in the beginning, Casey would never have learned to lie at all. 

Kids lie to escape punishment. If there's no punishment, then they'll just say "yes, I broke that glass." or whatever. Casey learned to lie to get out being punished. She may also have learned to imitate Cindy's way of lying to protect the family.


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Fuzz, IMO, I don't think it's so much the lack of punishment that encouraged KC to continue with her lies and charades, but rather the fact that her parents were encouraging her misbehavior by covering for her lies, stealing, etc. rather than making her responsible for her own actions.   This even goes back to her childhood when CinCin went to a party and repremanded children for not play nicely with KC.   
[/quote]

Hi Fuzzball,

I do not believe that Casey could have had any disciplinary action to change her course of behavior. Sociopaths are about 4% of the population while psychopaths are only about 1%, the number is increasingly smaller when you talk about homicidal behavior. Sociopaths live among us, they work with us, they go to church with us, they cut our hair, they dispense our medication, they prepare our taxes, they work on our root canals and they handle our finances. Many of them will never murder anyone or anything. These are the types of sociopaths that are highlighed in The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout. We marry them, divorce them, fight for custody with them, and all the while, we might never know it. People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders.

If G & C had been more aware of Casey's behavoirs while she was a child they could have prevented her future behavior to a certain extent. However, parents tend to justify and think of it as a passing phase. We've heard Cindy confess that she believed Casey was a sociopath. It's not a term we use loosely because a child has stressed us out or had days of behavior where they acted up. Cindy has known for awhile that Casey has 'something' that is not like all the other kids. Rather than acknowledge it, she did her best to hide it, even going as far as covering up any misdoings by Casey. As we see now, at age 22, Cindy is still defending Casey.

Casey could not be taught responsibility or empathy or guilt or love. If you can imagine being born without nerve endings. You couldn't feel a fluffy dog, a soft pillow or the heat if you got to close to a stove. That would be strange for us, right?  Casey was born without nerve endings (feelings/emotions/conscience). It is why she can't form any connections to anyone. That is why she lives her life in a fantasy rather than reality. She sees other people working, having fun, enjoying life but she can't. She cannot experience great job or the worst heartache. But she has to look like she is all of those things in order to be accepted. Now that we can unravel her lies we can glimpse into the mind of a very disturbed person.

If you go back and read some of her texts to Amy, she is talking about a breakup around May 3. She is over it pretty quickly as by the 4th, she is already talking about going out to meet more boys, as she calls them. This is why she can loose one relationship and on to the next in minutes. This is why she saw Caylee as disposable. She was upset, probably out of control over the fight she and Cindy had on the 15th. She killed Caylee in a rage. Now it was just a matter of hiding her so that she didn't have to be reminded of the burden. When she sees G & C on Aug 14th, she doesn't understand why Cindy is so upset, after all, she's done the best she can. This is why she didn't do anything to find Caylee after she was released on her 1st bond. In her mind, it was over, finished, time to move on. She can't make the connection between everyone else missing Caylee and her disposing of something that was in her way. So, long story short, there was nothing anyone could do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Gosh,I hope she did.
As much as I enjoy going over all the tapes,I find what Blink brought foward very interesting. I bet Casey did have a fake ID.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::


Great work!  Superb!

I agree. This is totally amazing. I think this is the smoking gun that LE has had from the beginning!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(


Great idea!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:53:09 PM
rmcalo~ have you caught up yet or are you still  ::MonkeyConfused::?

I thought since BLINK is in da house! We could do a little Q&A?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:54:01 PM

Klaas, as usual your one step ahead!! I believe that is the lanyard that suddenly comes up missing out of the garage Cindy references that is "shamrock" beads. I fear that lanyard may have been recovered at the scene as well, but cant confirm. I am working on a piece relative to that next.

I cannot wait to hear more.  This is as good as a docu dump! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 02:54:30 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember that Casey talks in her first police questioning about Zenaida and Casey tells them that Zenaida has a seasonal Universal Studios employee badge.  Wonder if that fits in somehow?


Klaas, as usual your one step ahead!! I believe that is the lanyard that suddenly comes up missing out of the garage Cindy references that is "shamrock" beads. I fear that lanyard may have been recovered at the scene as well, but cant confirm. I am working on a piece relative to that next.
When Cindy was being interviewed by LE she mentioned that the lanyard was missing.  I though that LE said that they had it, or he thought he saw it or something to that effect.  Does anyone else remember this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 02:54:56 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(

Great idea Hiding Monkey!  Is KCJackie still around?  She rocks with the pings!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:55:02 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am beyond speechless. I can't even process this.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember that Casey talks in her first police questioning about Zenaida and Casey tells them that Zenaida has a seasonal Universal Studios employee badge.  Wonder if that fits in somehow?



Yes I do remember that.Another piece of the puzzle.Can't wait to see what comes of this.
No more cough syrup for me(right now anyway).I got to be able to concentrate.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 02:57:23 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::


::MonkeyDance:: GO BLINK   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:57:53 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(

I don't think they have to do that because they can place her in the area by the check she cashed at the bank by the courthouse. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 02:58:06 PM
rmcalo~ have you caught up yet or are you still  ::MonkeyConfused::?

I thought since BLINK is in da house! We could do a little Q&A?

Lovin Life, Can I take a rain check? I have momma monkey duties till this eveing and need to get off, but I would be glad to another time, of course.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 02:58:48 PM
I have always thought Casey was a prime example of "arrested development."  So many things about her remind me of a pre-teen or middle schooler.  Writing her name on the notebook as Mrs. Anthony Lazarro, when she could not even spell his last name correctly is a good example of that teeny-bopper mindset.  How long had she known him then?  Two weeks?  Of course, she had probably slept with him.  Ha.

It may be that she is "stunted" or a sociopath or a combination of both.  Her lies were very immature ones, too.  Not telling the cops that her story about working at Universal was a lie until she had them in a building and down a hall.  That is something a fifth grader might do, but a 22 year old?

As for how she fooled so many people, most of us just naturally believe someone who says, "I work there" or "I went to Tampa" or whatever.  Why don't immediately think, "I'll bet she doesn't really work there."  And Casey went the extra mile of carrying around a folder that she called her "event planner" notebook. 

I do think her parents always knew or strongly suspected that she didn't have a job.  George said as much in an interview.  Cindy did not want him to confront Casey about it.  Cindy seems as vested in maintaining the lies as Casey does in some ways.
It really does appear she has arrested development, and my thoughts are could something have happened to her to cause this? It appears that the girl before giving birth to Caylee is different then the girl after giving birth to Caylee. Maybe I'm putting to much into this, and she is a sociopath and nothing more. ::MonkeyConfused::

cindy has definitely enforced caseys behavior all the way. 'arrested development' can be a symptom of a number of disorders.



Peanut, I totally agree.  And, I don't think this just started three years ago.  SinCin, and probably GA have been validating KC's mis-behaving probably since her childhood by letting her get by with most anything. 

I know a lot of parents who do this because it's easier for them to just give-in rather than taking on the role of true parenting (preparing the child for the real world out there), which a lot of times is difficult, uncomfortable and takes time away from ones self.  That doesn't mean that KC wouldn't have been a sociopath.  Maybe, just not as bad of a one.  IMO. 


very true. cindy is the head of that household so you know she had the last word in everything. i also think cindy is quite the narccissit in her own right. quite the example ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: CasuallyCool on January 16, 2009, 02:58:53 PM


To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.



I can't speak for Luckycharms, but I can say that honestly Casey's problem isn't a lack of discipline, it's a lack of conscience. Stricter punishments would have made her a meaner person towards others, and stricter towards her daughter, but they would not have instilled a conscience in her.

Everyone is assuming that because Casey's parents didn't punish her much as an adult, that they didn't punish her as a child, but that doesn't follow at all.  If there hadn't been some pretty stiff and certain punishments in the beginning, Casey would never have learned to lie at all. 

Kids lie to escape punishment. If there's no punishment, then they'll just say "yes, I broke that glass." or whatever. Casey learned to lie to get out being punished. She may also have learned to imitate Cindy's way of lying to protect the family.





Fuzz, IMO, I don't think it's so much the lack of punishment that encouraged KC to continue with her lies and charades, but rather the fact that her parents were encouraging her misbehavior by covering for her lies, stealing, etc. rather than making her responsible for her own actions.   This even goes back to her childhood when CinCin went to a party and repremanded children for not play nicely with KC.   
[/quote]

Hi Fuzzball,

I do not believe that Casey could have had any disciplinary action to change her course of behavior. Sociopaths are about 4% of the population while psychopaths are only about 1%, the number is increasingly smaller when you talk about homicidal behavior. Sociopaths live among us, they work with us, they go to church with us, they cut our hair, they dispense our medication, they prepare our taxes, they work on our root canals and they handle our finances. Many of them will never murder anyone or anything. These are the types of sociopaths that are highlighed in The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout. We marry them, divorce them, fight for custody with them, and all the while, we might never know it. People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders.

If G & C had been more aware of Casey's behavoirs while she was a child they could have prevented her future behavior to a certain extent. However, parents tend to justify and think of it as a passing phase. We've heard Cindy confess that she believed Casey was a sociopath. It's not a term we use loosely because a child has stressed us out or had days of behavior where they acted up. Cindy has known for awhile that Casey has 'something' that is not like all the other kids. Rather than acknowledge it, she did her best to hide it, even going as far as covering up any misdoings by Casey. As we see now, at age 22, Cindy is still defending Casey.

Casey could not be taught responsibility or empathy or guilt or love. If you can imagine being born without nerve endings. You couldn't feel a fluffy dog, a soft pillow or the heat if you got to close to a stove. That would be strange for us, right?  Casey was born without nerve endings (feelings/emotions/conscience). It is why she can't form any connections to anyone. That is why she lives her life in a fantasy rather than reality. She sees other people working, having fun, enjoying life but she can't. She cannot experience great job or the worst heartache. But she has to look like she is all of those things in order to be accepted. Now that we can unravel her lies we can glimpse into the mind of a very disturbed person.

If you go back and read some of her texts to Amy, she is talking about a breakup around May 3. She is over it pretty quickly as by the 4th, she is already talking about going out to meet more boys, as she calls them. This is why she can loose one relationship and on to the next in minutes. This is why she saw Caylee as disposable. She was upset, probably out of control over the fight she and Cindy had on the 15th. She killed Caylee in a rage. Now it was just a matter of hiding her so that she didn't have to be reminded of the burden. When she sees G & C on Aug 14th, she doesn't understand why Cindy is so upset, after all, she's done the best she can. This is why she didn't do anything to find Caylee after she was released on her 1st bond. In her mind, it was over, finished, time to move on. She can't make the connection between everyone else missing Caylee and her disposing of something that was in her way. So, long story short, there was nothing anyone could do.
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Excellent post, Luckcharmsprincess.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 02:58:57 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
Been out all afternoon and come back to the Bombshell.  Great job Blink!  Can't wait to hear more. 

Off again, for doggie duties
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.

I think I'm gonna puke.  At work we call this the "AAHHHHHAAA" moment.


I think Blink is right. Going to make more coffee. Wow.

Hey, wasn't 5/24 the evening of the "no-clothes" party?

I am trying to find the date. Pictures were posted on facebook of the pary on the 26th so the party was maybe the 24th or 25th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
rmcalo~ have you caught up yet or are you still  ::MonkeyConfused::?

I thought since BLINK is in da house! We could do a little Q&A?

Lovin Life, Can I take a rain check? I have momma monkey duties till this eveing and need to get off, but I would be glad to another time, of course.

By all means~go take care of your babie(s)!  I was just throwing it out there!  Thank you again for this amazing story.  Looking forward to hearing more.  (post&run?! ::MonkeyHaHa:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 03:02:38 PM

Klaas, as usual your one step ahead!! I believe that is the lanyard that suddenly comes up missing out of the garage Cindy references that is "shamrock" beads. I fear that lanyard may have been recovered at the scene as well, but cant confirm. I am working on a piece relative to that next.

I cannot wait to hear more.  This is as good as a docu dump! 

wow this is unreal. great job blink, ill be waiting on the edge of my seat for  more! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
TALK ABOUT A BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html

thank you, but for some reason i can't get the videos at that site to work......do you know if there is one on you tube?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 03:03:50 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.


Hot Digitty Dog!!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

I can't wrap my head around this!  If KC used ZG as an alias and Annie knows this - somebody needs to throw Annie into a safe house!  Nothing must happen to this woman before she testifies.

Wait, didn't Annie go to that little meeting of the minds at G&A's?  Wouldn't she have told Cindy about this?  Annie was supposedly KC's BFF.  Would KC have confided in Lee?  Could Lee have helped her?  Is this what he wants immunity for?  OMGGG

Great Job, Blink!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 03:04:31 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court




THANKS.  Very interesting, Klaas!

Wonder if there be some type of video surveillance from when the Zenaida/possible KC made the first payment in person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:06:09 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.


Hot Digitty Dog!!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

I can't wrap my head around this!  If KC used ZG as an alias and Annie knows this - somebody needs to throw Annie into a safe house!  Nothing must happen to this woman before she testifies.

Wait, didn't Annie go to that little meeting of the minds at G&A's?  Wouldn't she have told Cindy about this?  Annie was supposedly KC's BFF.  Would KC have confided in Lee?  Could Lee have helped her?  Is this what he wants immunity for?  OMGGG

Great Job, Blink!

OMG, OMG Good thinking GG!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::


Great work!  Superb!

I agree. This is totally amazing. I think this is the smoking gun that LE has had from the beginning!!!

Terrific sleuthing, Blink!  Thank you!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.

My ex couldn't hold a job either. but it was never his fault..they never appreciated his intelligence. He was also Chief of Police in our town. Locked up people for DUI and would be drunker than they were. Not taking up for the Anthony's in anyway, but I do understand the walking on eggshells. I did it for 9 yrs. That was 30 yrs ago and I still bear the emotional and physical scars. KC should never be allowed outside of bars again.

Couldn't hold a job, but was Chief of Police?

Usually sociopaths can hold a job, because they charm their employers and coworkers into covering for them or cutting them slack. They often occupy positions of authority and are extremely sucessful, and usually leave a trail of victims in their wake, people whose lives and careers they've destroyed because they needed a scapegoat to pin their own crimes on, or even just for their own amusement because they could.

Locking up other people for being drunk, while being drunk himself, does sound like the act of a sociopath.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 03:08:45 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.

I think I'm gonna puke.  At work we call this the "AAHHHHHAAA" moment.


I think Blink is right. Going to make more coffee. Wow.

Hey, wasn't 5/24 the evening of the "no-clothes" party?

I am trying to find the date. Pictures were posted on facebook of the pary on the 26th so the party was maybe the 24th or 25th.

The no clothes party was on the 25th but on the 24th Casey and Amy did go to a party. And the 24th was the day that Casey first met Tony L.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092308amyhuizenga/1/lg/992_1071_interviews_with_Anthony_Lazzaro_and_Amy_Heizings_Page_41.htm

Page 7 of Amy's interview.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html

thank you, but for some reason i can't get the videos at that site to work......do you know if there is one on you tube?

I don't know;


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 03:09:32 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(


Great idea!

Yes, great idea!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Puzzler on January 16, 2009, 03:11:38 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(

I don't think they have to do that because they can place her in the area by the check she cashed at the bank by the courthouse. 

Yep...good thinking..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(

I don't think they have to do that because they can place her in the area by the check she cashed at the bank by the courthouse. 

Yep...good thinking..


But then again, why not.  The more evidence, the better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
I am trying to catch up on all the posts. Does anyone have a link to the new released video of Casey in jail?  I want to see it.

Thanks! ::MonkeyWink::

Start here momma monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page

BUMP FOR JUJU!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Western Observr on January 16, 2009, 03:15:54 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



At the very least there is a signature on the doc and KC has very distinctive writing...


THANKS.  Very interesting, Klaas!

Wonder if there be some type of video surveillance from when the Zenaida/possible KC made the first payment in person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Western Observr on January 16, 2009, 03:16:49 PM
OOPs I don't know how m y comments got inserted into someone else's post.... my bad ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 03:17:30 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.

My ex couldn't hold a job either. but it was never his fault..they never appreciated his intelligence. He was also Chief of Police in our town. Locked up people for DUI and would be drunker than they were. Not taking up for the Anthony's in anyway, but I do understand the walking on eggshells. I did it for 9 yrs. That was 30 yrs ago and I still bear the emotional and physical scars. KC should never be allowed outside of bars again.

Couldn't hold a job, but was Chief of Police?

Usually sociopaths can hold a job, because they charm their employers and coworkers into covering for them or cutting them slack. They often occupy positions of authority and are extremely sucessful, and usually leave a trail of victims in their wake, people whose lives and careers they've destroyed because they needed a scapegoat to pin their own crimes on, or even just for their own amusement because they could.

Locking up other people for being drunk, while being drunk himself, does sound like the act of a sociopath.

Fuzzball, we only had 3 officers in our small town of about 800. He didn't last but about 9 months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html

thank you, but for some reason i can't get the videos at that site to work......do you know if there is one on you tube?


From on of Sassycat's post.
You can see the video here - this is part 1 (parts 2-4 are located to the right of the video)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=channel_page



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:19:29 PM
What about going a step further and checking pings near courthouse on day fines paid?  I'd do it but I don't know how :(

I don't think they have to do that because they can place her in the area by the check she cashed at the bank by the courthouse. 

Yep...good thinking..


But then again, why not.  The more evidence, the better.
Check for pings at both locations! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
 
::MonkeyDance:: WAY TO GO BLINK!  ::MonkeyDance::

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::MonkeyDance:: MONKEYS RULE!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
Blink34 is a fellow Monkey Sleuth.  They posted that blog entry based on their own investigation.

Blink - you are awesome!   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 03:22:14 PM
Im in Austin, on page 27 - yikes - wanna hear about my trip so far - musings....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
THANK YOU TRIMM!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:22:56 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court




At the very least there is a signature on the doc and KC has very distinctive writing...


THANKS.  Very interesting, Klaas!

Wonder if there be some type of video surveillance from when the Zenaida/possible KC made the first payment in person.
Also, wonder if payment can be made by any individual or only ticket holder?  If only ticket holder I would think Courthouse would require id.  In that case....Casey would have had to have provided fake id in Zenaida's name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
Im in Austin, on page 27 - yikes - wanna hear about my trip so far - musings....


Hey Always  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:23:49 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 16, 2009, 03:25:19 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html

Thanks.

Casey Anthony is sooo selfish.  She has no compassion for what she is putting her parents through.  It is all about her.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 16, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
::MonkeyEek:: OMG is anyone else thinking a "fake ID" with Zenaida Gonzalez' name pulled from KC's wallet at the house on the night of her first report of Caylee missing?!?!?!?!
Yes, Yes ::MonkeyEek::
OHHHHH, Wouldn't that be just Fantastic!!!  ::cartwheel::

That's exactly what I think!! Good call.
Is that you Blink?  ::MonkeyWink:: Amazing work!!! I had to  go read it again. Way to go!!  ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel::




WOW, BLINK!!  YOU GET THE SUPER-DUPER MONKEY SCARED MONKEYS AWARD!!!!!

       ::cartwheel::     ::MonkeyDance::     ::cartwheel::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 03:25:34 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

I haven't seen cell phone records going back that far, only to June 15.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


Lovinlife,you're funny.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 03:27:30 PM
Ok, I cant figure out where to put it and dont know the mood of the cage yet - so Ill just give you the jest of it - leave Tulsa - giet to experience new xray machine for the entire body - yeah, eat your heart out Tul Security - to Dallas where at 1035am sat beside two construction guys having rum and coke - 1:00 pickup up dog from animal hospital - pay $3500.00 - get instructions on "expressing her bladder"  - oh yeah, were having fun now!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:28:44 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


  WS does have a link and say it is worth the read.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
If this is the case with Casey impersonating "Zenaida", do you realize how many more charges she's gonna rack up?  We definately won't have to worry about her getting out!  What comes around, goes around!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Yes it is posted at WS, stickied up at the very top. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 03:30:36 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.
Babybear do you have Mini dachs? I love your avatar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Steel Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:31:29 PM
Ok, I cant figure out where to put it and dont know the mood of the cage yet - so Ill just give you the jest of it - leave Tulsa - giet to experience new xray machine for the entire body - yeah, eat your heart out Tul Security - to Dallas where at 1035am sat beside two construction guys having rum and coke - 1:00 pickup up dog from animal hospital - pay $3500.00 - get instructions on "expressing her bladder"  - oh yeah, were having fun now!!!!

You, my saucy friend, are one nutty monkey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:31:38 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Um, funny...  I just looked and so far, nothing that I can see. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


Lovinlife,you're funny.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks Trimm, I promised Muffy I'd try to behave.  That just slipped out!  I'll be good now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:32:04 PM
If this is the case with Casey impersonating "Zenaida", do you realize how many more charges she's gonna rack up?  We definately won't have to worry about her getting out!  What comes around, goes around!


 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
If this is the case with Casey impersonating "Zenaida", do you realize how many more charges she's gonna rack up?  We definately won't have to worry about her getting out!  What comes around, goes around!
Wonder what effect this will have on the ZG lawsuit that John Morgan is handling?  Wonder if he has read this yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
Ok, I cant figure out where to put it and dont know the mood of the cage yet - so Ill just give you the jest of it - leave Tulsa - giet to experience new xray machine for the entire body - yeah, eat your heart out Tul Security - to Dallas where at 1035am sat beside two construction guys having rum and coke - 1:00 pickup up dog from animal hospital - pay $3500.00 - get instructions on "expressing her bladder"  - oh yeah, were having fun now!!!!

You, my saucy friend, are one nutty monkey!
Why thank you Steel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:35:04 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


  WS does have a link and say it is worth the read.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can I ask, where abouts?  I can't find it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 03:35:26 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Yes it is posted at WS, stickied up at the very top. 

And the response was "That place is a hot-bed of pop-ups and viruses .. "  Think they are jealous?   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: FloraBama on January 16, 2009, 03:36:09 PM
Hey Guys,
I don't post much, but I do read a lot.  I was just thinking about this "Zenaida " alias thing...I seem to remember in the police interviews with Casey in the very beginning, she told them that Zenaida worked at Universal and that she had seen her work i.d. or something like that...She just seems to mix everything up in a big pot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 03:38:35 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


  WS does have a link and say it is worth the read.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can I ask, where abouts?  I can't find it.
Its in the sticky for today's news.  I don't think they are allowed to start a thread to discuss since it is posted here.  But, those rules could change momentarily.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
Hey Guys,
I don't post much, but I do read a lot.  I was just thinking about this "Zenaida " alias thing...I seem to remember in the police interviews with Casey in the very beginning, she told them that Zenaida worked at Universal and that she had seen her work i.d. or something like that...She just seems to mix everything up in a big pot.

Hi FloraBama - yes, I just brought up the same thing a couple pages back.  I agree, there is something to Casey's statement to LE regarding Zenaida's Universal Studios employee badge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 


  WS does have a link and say it is worth the read.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can I ask, where abouts?  I can't find it.

Listed under  Today's Current news.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:38:56 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Yes it is posted at WS, stickied up at the very top. 

And the response was "That place is a hot-bed of pop-ups and viruses .. "  Think they are jealous?   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks!  I found it.  Didn't look far enough.  I can't believe they aren't discussing it as a topic.  It is HUGE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 16, 2009, 03:39:28 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Yes it is posted at WS, stickied up at the very top. 

And the response was "That place is a hot-bed of pop-ups and viruses .. "  Think they are jealous?   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyShocked:: I saw that too! Wha's up wit dat!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:39:29 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Yes it is posted at WS, stickied up at the very top. 

And the response was "That place is a hot-bed of pop-ups and viruses .. "  Think they are jealous?   ::MonkeyLaugh::

They just can't overlook "Nothing says I love you like a freshly dug well"** for the best info?

**that's what my popup always says.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: nikkibnurse on January 16, 2009, 03:40:01 PM
How creepy would it be for Casey to have an alter ego? I mean, listening to her say, "Tell Zanny we forgive her", etc etc..

Gives me the creeps....Maybe she has MPD??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 03:41:08 PM
Hey Guys,
I don't post much, but I do read a lot.  I was just thinking about this "Zenaida " alias thing...I seem to remember in the police interviews with Casey in the very beginning, she told them that Zenaida worked at Universal and that she had seen her work i.d. or something like that...She just seems to mix everything up in a big pot.
As a seasonal employee, I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I noticed that too, SCATTY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 03:41:27 PM
FloraBama

(http://i40.tinypic.com/wa3q6a.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:41:45 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.
Possible that Officer had to start new book?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 03:42:18 PM
Ok, I cant figure out where to put it and dont know the mood of the cage yet - so Ill just give you the jest of it - leave Tulsa - giet to experience new xray machine for the entire body - yeah, eat your heart out Tul Security - to Dallas where at 1035am sat beside two construction guys having rum and coke - 1:00 pickup up dog from animal hospital - pay $3500.00 - get instructions on "expressing her bladder"  - oh yeah, were having fun now!!!!

Hi A-1.  Tell us about your adventure in the musings threads, okay?  Hope all is well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 16, 2009, 03:42:19 PM
HEY MONKEY PEEPS!

i may never catch up.  does anyone have a link to the KC video that was being discussed?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html

Thanks.

Casey Anthony is sooo selfish.  She has no compassion for what she is putting her parents through.  It is all about her.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Casey Anthony and Joran van der Sloot don't get it.  A relationship with God cannot be built on lies.  These two needs to bow ... reveal the truth ... plead forgiveness from God ... plead forgiveness from those they have wrong and ... be willing to accept responsibility for their wrongdoing. 

Janet

+++++++

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Thursday, June 23, 2005


ANITA VAN DER SLOOT:  He (Joran) got a Bible to read.  And he was telling me, Mommy, look at me, I'm reading the Bible. Did you ever think about that?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
Welcome to Scared Monkeys FloraBama   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 03:44:07 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 03:44:25 PM
Im glad you are back Muffy Bee!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: texanne on January 16, 2009, 03:44:52 PM
Im in Austin, on page 27 - yikes - wanna hear about my trip so far - musings....

Hey Always!!!   You're in my neck of the woods!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:45:01 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?
How convenient for it to go "missing".  Was it reported stolen?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 03:45:36 PM
WOW -  Only been gone for a couple of hours - and all I can say is   WOW   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 03:46:40 PM
I would love to know more about Casey's early childhood.  Not as an excuse for her actions but rather some insight.  She seems so far removed and stunted emotionally.  I guess it leads back to nature versus nurture but wow, she would be an interesting study.  Even her balled up fist and face she makes looks like a mad toddler.  Can anyone post that picture again please - I swear it about sums up her emotional age.

PLEASE don't take the above as my making any sort of excuse for her actions either.  I'm not AT all.
I would like to know more about her childhood also, I know people think she is a sociopath, and it does seem to fit her. She does seem stunted emotionally, and I'm wondering if something traumatic happened to her? The one thing that really puzzels me is how did she keep all her lies, and esp the job lies going with all these different people? That is one of the reasons that I don't think she is dumb or lazy, that actually took a lot of effort and time, to keep this going, about the nanny, her job, all of her lies straight. I also am not making any excuses for her behavior and actions. I would also like to know how she fit in at grade school, and junior high and her grades.

Saying this from personal experience...my ex too is a sociopath.  Of above average intelligence but chose to use that intelligence to further his sociopathic behaviors, not focus on putting that intelligence to productive use like furthering education or getting a proper job.  I think KC focused her intelligence on manipulating people for her own personal gain.  It was a game to her.

My ex couldn't hold a job either. but it was never his fault..they never appreciated his intelligence. He was also Chief of Police in our town. Locked up people for DUI and would be drunker than they were. Not taking up for the Anthony's in anyway, but I do understand the walking on eggshells. I did it for 9 yrs. That was 30 yrs ago and I still bear the emotional and physical scars. KC should never be allowed outside of bars again.

Couldn't hold a job, but was Chief of Police?

Usually sociopaths can hold a job, because they charm their employers and coworkers into covering for them or cutting them slack. They often occupy positions of authority and are extremely sucessful, and usually leave a trail of victims in their wake, people whose lives and careers they've destroyed because they needed a scapegoat to pin their own crimes on, or even just for their own amusement because they could.

Locking up other people for being drunk, while being drunk himself, does sound like the act of a sociopath.

Fuzzball, we only had 3 officers in our small town of about 800. He didn't last but about 9 months.

I guess in a smaller community he'd run out of people to scapegoat, pretty fast.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.
Babybear do you have Mini dachs? I love your avatar.

No I just have a mutt someone threw out by the side of the road.  I just thought these were cute but will give them up to anyone who has dachunds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 03:47:15 PM
Im glad you are back Muffy Bee!!!

Thank you A-1.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 03:47:45 PM

Hey Muffy    Scared Monkeys Rock    ::MonkeyDance::


Casey's going down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 03:47:45 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court


::MonkeyEek:: Again I'm speechless.

At the end of the article it says Post by Blink34 - what does that mean?

Blink34 is a fellow Monkey Sleuth.  They posted that blog entry based on their own investigation.

Thanks!! Belatedly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 03:50:16 PM

Hey Muffy    Scared Monkeys Rock    ::MonkeyDance::


Casey's going down.

Hi Trim :smt039

Yes, I too think Casey's going down. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 03:50:21 PM
The front page post from Blink is already gone from WS. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:52:32 PM
O/T but...
Please take a minute to light a candle for Jaliek, they have all gone out...again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=jal

TYIA, lovin



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:52:49 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.

It says she was represented by counsel. Was Casey "ZG" represented by Baez? Is this why she had his number?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
O/T but...
Please take a minute to light a candle for Jaliek, they have all gone out...again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=jal

TYIA, lovin



I just did


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: numbersgirl on January 16, 2009, 03:54:40 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

I know I'm behind...but GREAT SLEUTHING BLINK!  YOU SO ROCK THE CAGE!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blessed Mother on January 16, 2009, 03:55:13 PM
After watching the full video last night, two things came to mind.

I wonder now that this has been released, have G & C watched this again? Now knowing that their precious Caylee is dead? Are they having any A-ha moments?

Also, as someone mentioned, this video is just days before she was bailed out by LP. LP actually arrived in Orlando the next day (the 15th). Remember the day she was bonded out, shortly after she got home George needed to go for a walk, he looked frustrated as hell. I don't think he was kissing her ass as much once she got home and I'm sure the Cindy was just full of questions the moment they walked into the house. We already know that when Casey could have her face to face with someone, she didn't want to talk to Lee because he acts like a detective, didn't want to talk to mom because she dominated the convo asking questions about Caylee and now George is frustrated with her as well and let's it show. I'm sure she wasn't enjoying her time at home as much as we were all thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 03:57:38 PM
Good points Blessed Mother! Thank you for your imput!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 16, 2009, 03:58:08 PM
O/T but...
Please take a minute to light a candle for Jaliek, they have all gone out...again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=jal

TYIA, lovin



Thank you, lovin.  Jaliek's photograph pulled me in and his case tugs at my heart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
back to the conversation of KC/LA on july 26:

LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?(Zanni)

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.
CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.
LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?

CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.


I can't put a finger on it, but they seem to be code talking again.......like they are talking about something else (or someone else) who is missing.....help me out monkeys!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: SweetMorgan on January 16, 2009, 04:04:05 PM
Did Blink forward this to Kathy Belich?

Blink did ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Blink - great job!

Hi Blink,  All I can say is "WOW" and you go girl. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
Are you all still talking about the video or can you give me an update if something happened???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Lovinlife on January 16, 2009, 04:05:47 PM
O/T but...
Please take a minute to light a candle for Jaliek, they have all gone out...again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=jal

TYIA, lovin



Thank you, lovin.  Jaliek's photograph pulled me in and his case tugs at my heart.
Me too Muffy, for reasons I've posted in the thread. If anyone is interested, this little boy could use some monkey love:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2348.0
Have a great day/night all!  I'm outta here, for now.  :smt039
Lovin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 04:05:55 PM
back to the conversation of KC/LA on july 26:

LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?(Zanni)

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.
CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.
LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?

CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.


I can't put a finger on it, but they seem to be code talking again.......like they are talking about something else (or someone else) who is missing.....help me out monkeys!!!!



i dont think she had a second phone. i think that was an impromptu lie to the police in the attempt to explain why she didnt zannies, jeffs and juliets numbers on her regular phone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dogmom4 on January 16, 2009, 04:07:34 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.
Babybear do you have Mini dachs? I love your avatar.

No I just have a mutt someone threw out by the side of the road.  I just thought these were cute but will give them up to anyone who has dachunds.
AWWWWW. Your Mutt is lucky to have you. I have 3 Mini dachs and one mutt.All doggies are cute mutt or pedigree. Thx for the offer of the avatar but you should keep it. Sorry OT. Just hangin waiting for new Casey news. Hope NG has more to say tonight then just about Casey ordering Cocoa lotion, she seems obsessed with Casey ordering the cocoa lotion!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:09:19 PM
One of the things I had found weird, from the interview that was just posted, was when Lee asked Casey about being at Universal. Her answer was, "it wasn't necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment." It wasn't fun and it wasn't for work, then what was it? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 04:11:02 PM
One of the things I had found weird, from the interview that was just posted, was when Lee asked Casey about being at Universal. Her answer was, "it wasn't necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment." It wasn't fun and it wasn't for work, then what was it? ::MonkeyConfused::


it was a dream cause it never happened. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
One of the things I had found weird, from the interview that was just posted, was when Lee asked Casey about being at Universal. Her answer was, "it wasn't necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment." It wasn't fun and it wasn't for work, then what was it? ::MonkeyConfused::

EXACTLY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 04:12:45 PM
One of the things I had found weird, from the interview that was just posted, was when Lee asked Casey about being at Universal. Her answer was, "it wasn't necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment." It wasn't fun and it wasn't for work, then what was it? ::MonkeyConfused::


it was a dream cause it never happened. ::MonkeyWink::
then enter brother.
LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand

huh?  OK.... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 16, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
After watching the full video last night, two things came to mind.

I wonder now that this has been released, have G & C watched this again? Now knowing that their precious Caylee is dead? Are they having any A-ha moments?

Also, as someone mentioned, this video is just days before she was bailed out by LP. LP actually arrived in Orlando the next day (the 15th). Remember the day she was bonded out, shortly after she got home George needed to go for a walk, he looked frustrated as hell. I don't think he was kissing her ass as much once she got home and I'm sure the Cindy was just full of questions the moment they walked into the house. We already know that when Casey could have her face to face with someone, she didn't want to talk to Lee because he acts like a detective, didn't want to talk to mom because she dominated the convo asking questions about Caylee and now George is frustrated with her as well and let's it show. I'm sure she wasn't enjoying her time at home as much as we were all thinking.

Nope.  Cindy is still in denial.

Janet

++++++++


January 15, 2009

ORLANDO, Florida -- In an e-mail obtained by 10 Connects news partner WKMG Local 6 that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."
In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

courtesy WKMG Local 6 Orlando

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98098&catid=8



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: numbersgirl on January 16, 2009, 04:15:58 PM
One of the things I had found weird, from the interview that was just posted, was when Lee asked Casey about being at Universal. Her answer was, "it wasn't necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment." It wasn't fun and it wasn't for work, then what was it? ::MonkeyConfused::

I've always been confused about that as well....was she running drugs or something? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 04:16:45 PM
back to the conversation of KC/LA on july 26:

LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?(Zanni)

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.
CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.
LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?

CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.


I can't put a finger on it, but they seem to be code talking again.......like they are talking about something else (or someone else) who is missing.....help me out monkeys!!!!



i dont think she had a second phone. i think that was an impromptu lie to the police in the attempt to explain why she didnt zannies, jeffs and juliets numbers on her regular phone.

I have been wondering if this could be some kind of little black book??? Maybe a list of johns.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 04:17:21 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.

It says she was represented by counsel. Was Casey "ZG" represented by Baez? Is this why she had his number?

Now wouldn't that be something.  George sure seemed interested in how she got Baez's number initially.  It would also explain how she picked him - a current client perhaps?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.

It says she was represented by counsel. Was Casey "ZG" represented by Baez? Is this why she had his number?

Now wouldn't that be something.  George sure seemed interested in how she got Baez's number initially.  It would also explain how she picked him - a current client perhaps?


Sometimes you need a low rate lawyer for a traffic violation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 04:19:50 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.
Babybear do you have Mini dachs? I love your avatar.

No I just have a mutt someone threw out by the side of the road.  I just thought these were cute but will give them up to anyone who has dachunds.
AWWWWW. Your Mutt is lucky to have you. I have 3 Mini dachs and one mutt.All doggies are cute mutt or pedigree. Thx for the offer of the avatar but you should keep it. Sorry OT. Just hangin waiting for new Casey news. Hope NG has more to say tonight then just about Casey ordering Cocoa lotion, she seems obsessed with Casey ordering the cocoa lotion!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is cocoa lotion the stuff they advertise for pregnancy stretch marks?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 16, 2009, 04:20:18 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

Maybe Cindy, George or Lee are in possession of that phone.  Maybe that was the important clue in all of Casey's ramblings regarding the lost phone.

Janet

++++++++

Transcript of phone call between Casey and Lee Anthony on July 26th 
Last Edited: Monday, 28 Jul 2008, 9:02 PM EDT 
Created: Monday, 28 Jul 2008, 9:02 PM EDT 


CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=145B39CBB3C620C6C91BEE8F1B3D8211?contentId=7082866&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 04:22:20 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 04:22:29 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

Maybe Cindy, George or Lee are in possession of that phone.  Maybe that was the important clue in all of Casey's ramblings regarding the lost phone.

Janet

++++++++

Transcript of phone call between Casey and Lee Anthony on July 26th 
Last Edited: Monday, 28 Jul 2008, 9:02 PM EDT 
Created: Monday, 28 Jul 2008, 9:02 PM EDT 


CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=145B39CBB3C620C6C91BEE8F1B3D8211?contentId=7082866&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1



THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE LINK & INFO ABOUT THIS...I ALWAYS FORGET TO DO THAT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 04:23:09 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.

We are actually one of the "approved" websites at WS.  I do see they are disussing the SM front page post in the Zannie thread at WS.

Here's where they have a link to SM at Websleuths.  I like WS, they have some different forum rules than we do but they are overall a very good forum.  Of course, I choose to be here  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75218


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 04:23:31 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 04:24:38 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

Plus the sim card would register what phone was using it, and she did not show any change in the phone she was using on her phone records.  Ya know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 04:25:12 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.

We are actually one of the "approved" websites at WS.  I do see they are disussing the SM front page post in the Zannie thread at WS.

Here's where they have a link to SM at Websleuths.  I like WS, they have some different forum rules than we do but they are overall a very good forum.  Of course, I choose to be here  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75218


Got its own thread now.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78160


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.

We are actually one of the "approved" websites at WS.  I do see they are disussing the SM front page post in the Zannie thread at WS.

Here's where they have a link to SM at Websleuths.  I like WS, they have some different forum rules than we do but they are overall a very good forum.  Of course, I choose to be here  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75218


Got its own thread now.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78160


That is another post, nevermind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 04:26:45 PM
Good grief!  The anger that KC shows in the videos is startling.  And by her own admission, she is on her best behavior.  Can you imagine the anger and fits that must have gone on in the house when there were no cameras and videos to capture it all?

Truly frightening.
It  reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode with Billy Mumy, where his family and the town's people would agree with everything he said or did, so not to upset him. I'm sure it was just easier in the long run to let Casey do or say whatever, otherwise her wrath would be very frightening. ::MonkeyEek::

It reminds me of "The Bad Seed." the old one with Patty McCormick.  Chilling.
Babybear do you have Mini dachs? I love your avatar.

No I just have a mutt someone threw out by the side of the road.  I just thought these were cute but will give them up to anyone who has dachunds.
AWWWWW. Your Mutt is lucky to have you. I have 3 Mini dachs and one mutt.All doggies are cute mutt or pedigree. Thx for the offer of the avatar but you should keep it. Sorry OT. Just hangin waiting for new Casey news. Hope NG has more to say tonight then just about Casey ordering Cocoa lotion, she seems obsessed with Casey ordering the cocoa lotion!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is cocoa lotion the stuff they advertise for pregnancy stretch marks?

Yeah, but don't get your gander up. There really isn't much of a choice for lotion at the jail. You get cocoa butter or you squeeze some butter from your morning toast.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.

We are actually one of the "approved" websites at WS.  I do see they are disussing the SM front page post in the Zannie thread at WS.

Here's where they have a link to SM at Websleuths.  I like WS, they have some different forum rules than we do but they are overall a very good forum.  Of course, I choose to be here  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75218


Got its own thread now.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78160


That is another post, nevermind.

Thanks guys.  I like to read there but I choose to be here too. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 04:31:03 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

Plus the sim card would register what phone was using it, and she did not show any change in the phone she was using on her phone records.  Ya know?

Right the sim card is what registers your calls and adds them to the bill. No matter what phone it's hooked up to. So any nanny calls would be on the bill, irregardless.

A lost blackjack phone, matters not, as far as LE is concerned.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 04:32:50 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.


Grama,I like to use that website also. I agree #1 and #7 are interesting.I would like to use #1 on Casey.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I like to read your posts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.
Interesting. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 04:35:19 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

(http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/c.jpg?w=640&h=425)

(http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/c1.jpg?w=640&h=425)

(http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/b-1.jpg?w=640&h=425)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:36:09 PM
Thanks, Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 16, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Kudos to Blink! And to Red for posting it front page and Klaas for her help!!  This is a big WOW!!  As usual I am several pages back! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 04:36:46 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.



warning is right...lol...some of that i did not want to know about


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GabbyG on January 16, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
i think Cindy has had and/or tried to be in control of KC her entire life. but, once Caylee was born KC had the control. my daughter, not yours, etc, KC new she had the upper hand & it worked until now. or rather as long as there was a chance she (Cindy) could get to see Caylee. it was ok for Cindy to spend money, her time, & whatever as long as KC allowed it. Caylee was KC's daughter, not Cindy's, & KC made sure she proved who was in charge. Caylee was nothing more than a pawn. i do think Cindy loved Caylee, in her own way, but was to scared of KC to stand up to her. i think KC was all along neglecting & whoever knows what else to Caylee, but in the end, after watching that video, i can picture KC snapping & killing Caylee. now, i think Cindy does feel somewhat responsible because she knew what could happen (& did) since she knew KC's rage & jealousy. just like in the visit when KC said she "had to pick 1 person, she (kc) picked dad. (george) Cindy, pretty much said "HERE, SO TALK TO HIM"(you made your choice & it's not me, so there) KC also keeps saying "i'm not in control of anything" (sounds like cindy) & George keeps saying "you are the boss" calming her down, so she feels in control again. i really think Cindy wants to "lose control & make Kc talk"  at 1st, i thought Cindy might have known what happened but now i think she wasn't involved in the actual "act" that led to Caylee's death but is doing everything "in her control' to save KC now. that's all she has left in her mind, and i think she knows she could have done something to save Caylee. too bad Cindy didn't want to make KC mad & take Caylee away from this mess. not taking up for Cindy in anyway whatsoever, but she knows she could have done something. i have seen where mothers and or grandparents give up any kind of life, emotional, financial, identity, to save a child & there is no excuse. i'm sorry for the long post. i should have said at the beginning that this is just me thinking out loud, i am totally more than mad after watching that visit. anyway, i love all the monkeys & am so glad that i happened to end up here. sorry again! i do need to go back & catch up. moving & this case does not help with moving! (but floors are clean-I VACCUUMED (sp?) & got a new steam mop today- ::cartwheel::) but nothing else has been packed.

wendi

Hi wendi!!   :smt039  I just had to tell you that your beautiful fur baby could be my fur baby's sibling! They are identical! He/she is gorgeous, and looks like he/she does exactly what my Emmy does every time I try to take a picture of her...lays her ears down, darn it...she HATES cameras! I do have some pics of her Im gonna attempt to load to my computer so I can have an avatar made of her eventually.
Just wanted to say your dog is beautiful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 04:37:51 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.

I may be wrong about this but I thought she paid her AT&T online with that money.  Anyone else remember this?  It was $354.00, I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 04:37:58 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.


Grama,I like to use that website also. I agree #1 and #7 are interesting.I would like to use #1 on Casey.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I like to read your posts.



Sorry OriginalKat.   I called you Grama by mistake.My Grandson was talking to me.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 04:38:47 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.

It says she was represented by counsel. Was Casey "ZG" represented by Baez? Is this why she had his number?

Now wouldn't that be something.  George sure seemed interested in how she got Baez's number initially.  It would also explain how she picked him - a current client perhaps?


Sometimes you need a low rate lawyer for a traffic violation.

It's being pointed out at the other board that the citing officers were different. That wouldn't make the same traffic stop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 16, 2009, 04:39:18 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com



(http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/b-1.jpg?w=640&h=425)
Thanks Klaas...since Conway is with her I guess it will be a very one sided show.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blessed Mother on January 16, 2009, 04:40:06 PM
After watching the full video last night, two things came to mind.

I wonder now that this has been released, have G & C watched this again? Now knowing that their precious Caylee is dead? Are they having any A-ha moments?

Also, as someone mentioned, this video is just days before she was bailed out by LP. LP actually arrived in Orlando the next day (the 15th). Remember the day she was bonded out, shortly after she got home George needed to go for a walk, he looked frustrated as hell. I don't think he was kissing her ass as much once she got home and I'm sure the Cindy was just full of questions the moment they walked into the house. We already know that when Casey could have her face to face with someone, she didn't want to talk to Lee because he acts like a detective, didn't want to talk to mom because she dominated the convo asking questions about Caylee and now George is frustrated with her as well and let's it show. I'm sure she wasn't enjoying her time at home as much as we were all thinking.

Nope.  Cindy is still in denial.

Janet

++++++++


January 15, 2009

ORLANDO, Florida -- In an e-mail obtained by 10 Connects news partner WKMG Local 6 that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."
In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

courtesy WKMG Local 6 Orlando

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98098&catid=8



Thanks Janet, yes, I've seen that about the letter she sent to Dakota's grandmother,
but I'm wondering if that letter isn't just for show. I mean we all know how much
Cindy puts into "looking good" although she fails miserably. I don't think she is ready
for the world to know that she now believes her daughter is a murderer. Cindy is talking
out both sides of her mouth. "Casey would never hurt Caylee, she didn't do this".. para-
phrasing. YET- she is saying that she will cooperate with LE if they will give them
immunity.. well, which is it?
I believe that she now knows that Casey is responsible for Caylee's death. She admits
it to herself.. but she's not ready to admit it publicly.. not without immunity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 16, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

Plus the sim card would register what phone was using it, and she did not show any change in the phone she was using on her phone records.  Ya know?

Right the sim card is what registers your calls and adds them to the bill. No matter what phone it's hooked up to. So any nanny calls would be on the bill, irregardless.

A lost blackjack phone, matters not, as far as LE is concerned.



unless it was found with the remains


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com



(http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/b-1.jpg?w=640&h=425)
Thanks Klaas...since Conway is with her I guess it will be a very one sided show.....
I didn't even notice Greta in that picture, I'm sure it will be one sided.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
THe person who posted it is probabkly banned   ::MonkeyEek::

They have a rule about linking to forbidden websites or something.

We are actually one of the "approved" websites at WS.  I do see they are disussing the SM front page post in the Zannie thread at WS.

Here's where they have a link to SM at Websleuths.  I like WS, they have some different forum rules than we do but they are overall a very good forum.  Of course, I choose to be here  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75218


Got its own thread now.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78160

 
Quote
Old news....look for our 'neighbors" thread, we've been talking about this

& yes, I think SM is a no-no

I couldn't find the neighbors thread this poster is talking about, anyone got a link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 04:42:05 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

Plus the sim card would register what phone was using it, and she did not show any change in the phone she was using on her phone records.  Ya know?

Right the sim card is what registers your calls and adds them to the bill. No matter what phone it's hooked up to. So any nanny calls would be on the bill, irregardless.

A lost blackjack phone, matters not, as far as LE is concerned.



unless it was found with the remains

true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 04:42:13 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.

I may be wrong about this but I thought she paid her AT&T online with that money.  Anyone else remember this?  It was $354.00, I think.

My poor eyes.  Defecate on her face!  Yuck......Can anyone post a definition? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 04:43:37 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Snipped

Amazing photo.  What an outpouring of love.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 04:44:05 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

Plus the sim card would register what phone was using it, and she did not show any change in the phone she was using on her phone records.  Ya know?

Right the sim card is what registers your calls and adds them to the bill. No matter what phone it's hooked up to. So any nanny calls would be on the bill, irregardless.

A lost blackjack phone, matters not, as far as LE is concerned.


True and that does make you wonder if there was ever a blackjack phone the way they went on about it. Ever since 9/11 everything is trackable these days. Lee should have known that really. He kept mentioning the father in the Duckett case (July interviews) being involved with the family now and there were cell records in that case that went against the mom. Always more mystery in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blessed Mother on January 16, 2009, 04:44:59 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

I'm in no way defending this monster.. BUT, when she talks about numbers saving to SIM or to the phone itself.. she is accurate. I'm somewhat of a cell phone guru, I have 7. I switch my SIM from phone to phone depending on my activities. I have an iphone and I certainly wouldn't take it hiking with me, I'd want a more rugged phone for the occasion. Anyway, sometimes if I am adding a number to my phone, I add it to the phone itself and it doesn't save to the SIM.. what's why if you have a GSM phone (phone requiring a SIM), when you get a new phone or are switching the SIM, before doing so, you copy all of the numbers from the phone onto the SIM, it's an option on the phone.

I don't believe that she even had this second phone, but what she is saying is true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
WOW BLINK!   GOOD JOB!     ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
Today....neighbor thread is on first page around number twenty in about middle of the page.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 04:48:21 PM
After watching the full video last night, two things came to mind.

I wonder now that this has been released, have G & C watched this again? Now knowing that their precious Caylee is dead? Are they having any A-ha moments?

Also, as someone mentioned, this video is just days before she was bailed out by LP. LP actually arrived in Orlando the next day (the 15th). Remember the day she was bonded out, shortly after she got home George needed to go for a walk, he looked frustrated as hell. I don't think he was kissing her ass as much once she got home and I'm sure the Cindy was just full of questions the moment they walked into the house. We already know that when Casey could have her face to face with someone, she didn't want to talk to Lee because he acts like a detective, didn't want to talk to mom because she dominated the convo asking questions about Caylee and now George is frustrated with her as well and let's it show. I'm sure she wasn't enjoying her time at home as much as we were all thinking.

Nope.  Cindy is still in denial.

Janet

++++++++


January 15, 2009

ORLANDO, Florida -- In an e-mail obtained by 10 Connects news partner WKMG Local 6 that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.

Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found last month in a wooded area near the Anthony family's Orange County home.

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."
In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

That's when Cindy Anthony replied, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven, she loved her deeply."

Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, have avoided the media since Caylee's remains were discovered, allowing their attorney to speak on their behalf.

The last time Cindy Anthony spoke publicly was on CNN's "Larry King Live," the day before Caylee's remains were found. She also defended her daughter during that interview.

"I can say with 100 percent of my being (that) Casey has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance," Cindy Anthony said.

"How are you holding up?" Larry King asked.

"We take one day at a time. A lot of sleep lost, weight lost," Cindy Anthony said.

courtesy WKMG Local 6 Orlando

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98098&catid=8



Why would you try to get a restraining order against someone, and then be upset that they don't want to have you at their grandchild's funeral?

If Cindy took out a restraining order against Lois, would Lois welcome her to Dakota's funeral? What a bunch of lunatics these people all are.   I can't believe Cindy actually still believes Casey might be proven innocent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 04:48:28 PM
I think she used Amy H money to pay her bill.

Here is something from another site that might have come from Rick P emails..I never read all of them. They were giving a list of players in this case.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=485998 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=485998)

Go down to Rick for info. It has some interesting stuff on the page.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 04:52:30 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 04:52:42 PM
Snipped from JuJu's post:
LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?  

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

I never quite got it before, but Lee asks an EXCELLENT question. If this transcript is accurate, she deliberately avoids answering. Lee's right. It makes no sense. So she's out and out lying about switching sim cards back and forth or that she even had another phone. In other words, of course she's lying because there was no fictional Zanny's fictional number TO save.

I'm in no way defending this monster.. BUT, when she talks about numbers saving to SIM or to the phone itself.. she is accurate. I'm somewhat of a cell phone guru, I have 7. I switch my SIM from phone to phone depending on my activities. I have an iphone and I certainly wouldn't take it hiking with me, I'd want a more rugged phone for the occasion. Anyway, sometimes if I am adding a number to my phone, I add it to the phone itself and it doesn't save to the SIM.. what's why if you have a GSM phone (phone requiring a SIM), when you get a new phone or are switching the SIM, before doing so, you copy all of the numbers from the phone onto the SIM, it's an option on the phone.

I don't believe that she even had this second phone, but what she is saying is true.

There are photographs of Casey with her black jack phone on the table in front of her. So there was a phone. But I think they're going on and on about it because they want to explain away why there are no calls to or from Zenaida Gonzales on Casey's phone or in her phone bill records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: SunnyinTX on January 16, 2009, 04:53:12 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Snipped

Amazing photo.  What an outpouring of love.

It certainly is.....from perfect strangers....her family didn't love her enough to protect her....cin=cin KNEW casey was out of control...why didn't she go on and get custody of Caylee? Why didn't she insist on seeing or talking to Caylee for 31 days? Why did she never question Caylee about her nanny?? Why didn't she know the nanny? or her address? or her phone number? Why didn't she confront casey about their 'suspicions' that she didn't really have a job? Why didn't she love Caylee enough to protect her? :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 04:55:51 PM
I think we all, or at least most of us, realize that Cindy cannot bring herself to admit that Casey killed Caylee, because she knows if that happened, she played a role in it.  Cindy said or did something that set Casey off, sent her flying out of the house with Caylee and possibly led to the murder.  That does not make Cindy directly responsible, but she may have been the catalyst that set it all in motion.  So she will remain in denial forever.  She cannot admit that they quarreled that weekend, that she planned to seek custody of Caylee or threatened to do that, that she and Casey had had problems for a long time, that they competed against each other and little Caylee was often the pawn in the middle.  George and Lee both said that Cindy and Casey had been fighting with each other and Cindy posted online that jealousy had caused her to lose Caylee.  But Cindy will not admit to any problems now, although they had plenty of problems with Casey that are known and no telling how many that are unknown.  This is what I deduce from all the things that have been learned in the case so far. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: guideposts on January 16, 2009, 04:57:28 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.

I may be wrong about this but I thought she paid her AT&T online with that money.  Anyone else remember this?  It was $354.00, I think.

4/08/08 cell phone bills Payments $354.04

4/08/08 Casey Anthony made a unaurthorized transfer of funds from Shirley Plesea husbands account, grandfather, in the amount of $354. to pay a cell phone bill.  The bank has reimbursed the funds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 04:58:39 PM
I've got news for Cindy...if they have a public memorial, anyone from the public can go.  The funeral may be private but the memorial is going to be public, so she cannot bar people who want to express their sadness over Caylee's death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
I think she used Amy H money to pay her bill.

Here is something from another site that might have come from Rick P emails..I never read all of them. They were giving a list of players in this case.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=485998 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=485998)

Go down to Rick for info. It has some interesting stuff on the page.
Thanks, very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 05:00:03 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Who knows maybe that is where Casey had her mail sent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 05:04:02 PM
back to the conversation of KC/LA on july 26:

LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?(Zanni)

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.
CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.
LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?

CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.


I can't put a finger on it, but they seem to be code talking again.......like they are talking about something else (or someone else) who is missing.....help me out monkeys!!!!


I am a couple of pages behind and may have already been said, but who says things like it is at the bottom left side of town??????????????  That has to be code.  Like she is telling him where to look on a map


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.


lol.

Nutty is Kronk being employee t-56, who is t-55?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:06:05 PM
I've got news for Cindy...if they have a public memorial, anyone from the public can go.  The funeral may be private but the memorial is going to be public, so she cannot bar people who want to express their sadness over Caylee's death.

Hudsunn hijacking your post to ask:
Boo have you heard anything about a memorial service to be given by Rev. Grund?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 05:08:51 PM
I think we all, or at least most of us, realize that Cindy cannot bring herself to admit that Casey killed Caylee, because she knows if that happened, she played a role in it.  Cindy said or did something that set Casey off, sent her flying out of the house with Caylee and possibly led to the murder.  That does not make Cindy directly responsible, but she may have been the catalyst that set it all in motion.  So she will remain in denial forever.  She cannot admit that they quarreled that weekend, that she planned to seek custody of Caylee or threatened to do that, that she and Casey had had problems for a long time, that they competed against each other and little Caylee was often the pawn in the middle.  George and Lee both said that Cindy and Casey had been fighting with each other and Cindy posted online that jealousy had caused her to lose Caylee.  But Cindy will not admit to any problems now, although they had plenty of problems with Casey that are known and no telling how many that are unknown.  This is what I deduce from all the things that have been learned in the case so far. 
The guilt that Cindy must be feeling must be overwhelming, I would not be surprised if she tried to commit suicide.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:10:38 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ZenaidaListing-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:11:41 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 16, 2009, 05:12:38 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 05:13:06 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?


thus the lol.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 05:13:43 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)


beefsticks and deviled eggs?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?
::MonkeyHaHa:: yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 16, 2009, 05:14:30 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?
Good call Klaas!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:


wowza!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 05:17:34 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.


lol.

Nutty is Kronk being employee t-56, who is t-55?

I am old and dumb but  47+1+9=55 ????? I get 57


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 05:18:50 PM
Nut   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
I think we all, or at least most of us, realize that Cindy cannot bring herself to admit that Casey killed Caylee, because she knows if that happened, she played a role in it.  Cindy said or did something that set Casey off, sent her flying out of the house with Caylee and possibly led to the murder.  That does not make Cindy directly responsible, but she may have been the catalyst that set it all in motion.  So she will remain in denial forever.  She cannot admit that they quarreled that weekend, that she planned to seek custody of Caylee or threatened to do that, that she and Casey had had problems for a long time, that they competed against each other and little Caylee was often the pawn in the middle.  George and Lee both said that Cindy and Casey had been fighting with each other and Cindy posted online that jealousy had caused her to lose Caylee.  But Cindy will not admit to any problems now, although they had plenty of problems with Casey that are known and no telling how many that are unknown.  This is what I deduce from all the things that have been learned in the case so far. 

This is all quite true. But I think it's also true that Cindy would like to imagine that Casey didn't do it, for another reason. Casey is Cindy's only daughter. If Casey is guilty then all Cindy's love and caring has gone down a black hole. Nothing she did for Casey or Caylee matters. She'll never be able to trust her own feelings or love anyone again.

How on earth could you find out that the child you raised and loved and lived for, was simply evil, incapable of caring, and recover from that and go on living? How? We don't want to think someone we know could do something like this, but this isn't just "someone she knows." This is someone she thought she knew better than anyone else, and didn't know at all.

IMO it would be easier to have your child killed, than to have to realize that your child killed her own daughter. To know that your child killed your grandchild, the only person you loved more than Casey. Where is the path out from there? How do you regroup, recover, and go on? You can't. Without Caylee, Casey is all Cindy has to live for, and if Casey herself is the killer, where does that leave Cindy?  I think Cindy avoids looking at it because it's just too horrible to acknowledge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 05:19:07 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?
Yes, I was be silly. ;)

I was just pointing out how I am starting to read clues into everything.

I just need to keep putting myself back into Occam's razor mode.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 05:19:35 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?

Er, that's what I thought too.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 05:21:03 PM
I've got news for Cindy...if they have a public memorial, anyone from the public can go.  The funeral may be private but the memorial is going to be public, so she cannot bar people who want to express their sadness over Caylee's death.

I don't think she was trying to bar Lois from the public one. It's the private funeral that Dakota can come to but Lois can't. And really if you have a restraining order against someone it's hideously rude to go to their child or grandchild's funeral, because won't that mean they can't come within 100 yards of their own child's funeral while you're there? What kind of sick sadist would do that to someone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 05:21:42 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ZenaidaListing-1.jpg)
I think this is a coinsidence guys.  I pulled up several on the street and the dates were 5/08 and 9/08.  I believe this might be date info updated into system?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 05:22:01 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?

Er, that's what I thought too.  ::MonkeyEek::

There is no way Casey thought about that. She's not that smart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: kitkat53 on January 16, 2009, 05:22:33 PM
HLN is gonna talk more about the CA tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!
As far as I can tell they've locked all the threads, so no new input.  Maybe its being discussed on topix, however I cannot find my way around there.  Maybe someone can take a look and post a link. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:23:08 PM
Found this beautiful tribute to Caylee posted at WS:

http://john.bitbun.com/caylee_anthony.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:23:58 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ZenaidaListing-1.jpg)
I think this is a coinsidence guys.  I pulled up several on the street and the dates were 5/08 and 9/08.  I believe this might be date info updated into system?

You could be right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 05:24:15 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 05:24:31 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?

Er, that's what I thought too.  ::MonkeyEek::

There is no way Casey thought about that. She's not that smart.

I was teasing folks. :)

Just reading into every little thing has made me a nutty monkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:25:19 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!

Just found this
Quote
I had posted about this on the rumor thread in the Parkling Lot.

looks like they have taken the discussion to the private part of their forum.  You must be a member to read there. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:26:59 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.


Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

I think this is a coinsidence guys.  I pulled up several on the street and the dates were 5/08 and 9/08.  I believe this might be date info updated into system?

You could be right

What I do know is that LE has her computer and you can bet they know if she made that update, or at least searched for it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!

Just found this
Quote
I had posted about this on the rumor thread in the Parkling Lot.

looks like they have taken the discussion to the private part of their forum.  You must be a member to read there. 

Well, they don't want us to know what they are saying about us.  (just kidding).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:28:35 PM
I've got news for Cindy...if they have a public memorial, anyone from the public can go.  The funeral may be private but the memorial is going to be public, so she cannot bar people who want to express their sadness over Caylee's death.

I don't think she was trying to bar Lois from the public one. It's the private funeral that Dakota can come to but Lois can't. And really if you have a restraining order against someone it's hideously rude to go to their child or grandchild's funeral, because won't that mean they can't come within 100 yards of their own child's funeral while you're there? What kind of sick sadist would do that to someone?
The restraining order was denied.  However, I do think that its in bad taste to take a child that had to be hospitalized over this whole situation to the funeral.  I have no love for Cindy, but to taunt her with emails is low IMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:29:40 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Here is the post - it is interresting:

bettejean on January 16th, 2009 2:07 pm
 
This is all quite interesting…Interesting also to note that the ZG whose computer was stolen at UCF on june 9 worked in the same building as nicole ganguzza, the jogger who was killed in blanchard park the very next night. Let’s make it more confusing: remember casey changing her story and saying zg threw her down at blanchard park and sped off with caylee on june 16? And her mysterious “blackjack phone” fell out of her purse in the process? The new phone she told police she had only had for about a week? Which means she would have gotten it around june 9 or 10, the same timeframe of nicole ganguzzas murder? And she said she stopped using it cuz it “wouldn’t hold its charge?” Well, interestingly enough, the cops found PART OF A CELL PHONE CHARGER near ganguzzas body. why oh why would our girl genius riddle herself into yet another crime scene?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:30:01 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ZenaidaListing-1.jpg)
I think this is a coinsidence guys.  I pulled up several on the street and the dates were 5/08 and 9/08.  I believe this might be date info updated into system?

Didn't one of monkeys say they were contacting whitepages? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 05:30:57 PM
back to the conversation of KC/LA on july 26:

LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?(Zanni)

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.
CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.
LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?

CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.


I can't put a finger on it, but they seem to be code talking again.......like they are talking about something else (or someone else) who is missing.....help me out monkeys!!!!


I am a couple of pages behind and may have already been said, but who says things like it is at the bottom left side of town??????????????  That has to be code.  Like she is telling him where to look on a map

If Slore only had the Black Jack for a week, than why was Zanny's number not saved on the phone she had the longest.  Zanny had been "watching" Caylee for over a year!    Also, I wonder if LE has pulled pharmacy records for KC or for her friends, so they can determine if any were getting an a** load of Zanax prescribed to them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 05:32:03 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 05:32:07 PM
I might be wrong but I don't think she said she had only had it for that short of a period of time.  I'll try to find it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 05:32:45 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

I haven't seen cell phone records going back that far, only to June 15.


Don't know if this is any help, but there are text messages that predate 6/15 if I recall...pardon if you all have already seen this site:www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcripts.htm

Sorry, but know how to make it a clickable link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 05:33:12 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!

Oh, I KNOW what you mean! I can't find anything over there, they keep merging the threads. Like there's a limit to how many threads there can be. Waste, huge waste! And they want to be so "informative". Bah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Yep that keeps coming up.  Its one of those things that you just have to keep in the back of your mind until there is more information. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 05:34:23 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Here is the post - it is interresting:

bettejean on January 16th, 2009 2:07 pm
 
This is all quite interesting…Interesting also to note that the ZG whose computer was stolen at UCF on june 9 worked in the same building as nicole ganguzza, the jogger who was killed in blanchard park the very next night. Let’s make it more confusing: remember casey changing her story and saying zg threw her down at blanchard park and sped off with caylee on june 16? And her mysterious “blackjack phone” fell out of her purse in the process? The new phone she told police she had only had for about a week? Which means she would have gotten it around june 9 or 10, the same timeframe of nicole ganguzzas murder? And she said she stopped using it cuz it “wouldn’t hold its charge?” Well, interestingly enough, the cops found PART OF A CELL PHONE CHARGER near ganguzzas body. why oh why would our girl genius riddle herself into yet another crime scene?


Klaas,
I heard a couple of months ago that LE was going to name a suspect, remember how the composite looked a lot like LA? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 05:36:25 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

Isn't that 57?

Er, that's what I thought too.  ::MonkeyEek::

There is no way Casey thought about that. She's not that smart.

I was teasing folks. :)

Just reading into every little thing has made me a nutty monkey.


I thought you were joking that is why I gave you a lol.  Sometimes we read too much into things and I agree, it is making us nutty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:37:04 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

I haven't seen cell phone records going back that far, only to June 15.


Don't know if this is any help, but there are text messages that predate 6/15 if I recall...pardon if you all have already seen this site:www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcripts.htm

Sorry, but know how to make it a clickable link.

That site is amazing.  I haven't seen it before.  WOw


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GabbyG on January 16, 2009, 05:38:17 PM
Im only on page 25 so far (behind as usual!) but wanted to comment on something I've been thinking. Regardless of all the evidence LE has against KC, I believe what's gonna hang her high is when the jury sees for themselves how cold she is, how uncaring, while she sits there in the courtroom during her trial and stares off, doodles, tries to hide her grins, etc. And if we're really lucky maybe they will get to see a tantrum or two from her, but even without that she is gonna be her own worst enemy when the jury sees firsthand how much she DOESNT care. She will put the noose around her own neck IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 05:38:25 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

I haven't seen cell phone records going back that far, only to June 15.


Never mind...I can't find what I thought I saw on that site now.  I must have imagined it  ::MonkeyConfused::.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 05:38:45 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.


And you would be right.It is interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 05:39:48 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Here is the post - it is interresting:

bettejean on January 16th, 2009 2:07 pm
 
This is all quite interesting…Interesting also to note that the ZG whose computer was stolen at UCF on june 9 worked in the same building as nicole ganguzza, the jogger who was killed in blanchard park the very next night. Let’s make it more confusing: remember casey changing her story and saying zg threw her down at blanchard park and sped off with caylee on june 16? And her mysterious “blackjack phone” fell out of her purse in the process? The new phone she told police she had only had for about a week? Which means she would have gotten it around june 9 or 10, the same timeframe of nicole ganguzzas murder? And she said she stopped using it cuz it “wouldn’t hold its charge?” Well, interestingly enough, the cops found PART OF A CELL PHONE CHARGER near ganguzzas body. why oh why would our girl genius riddle herself into yet another crime scene?


Klaas,
I heard a couple of months ago that LE was going to name a suspect, remember how the composite looked a lot like LA? 

In a perfect dream, they arrest LA for that murder and we find out that Casey was using code to keep LA from working against her.  Maybe Cindy and George have no choice but to support her otherwise they lose another.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.
Yes very interesting indeed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 05:44:10 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.
I believe the answer to that is in the e-mail between Sin-dy and her brother something to the effect that Rick said she bought a phone with that money mother showed me the bill. Another thing that has been bugging me all along-has anybody noticed in the KC interviews with LE she makes it a point to say"Zenaida was the last person I seen with my daughter" even to the point that she corrects herself to to make that same statement. Le says-you dropped your daughter off with Zanie-she says yes.. um Zenaida was the last person I seen with my daughter. Over and over. Maybe she said that because her alias was ZFG and in her mind she wasn't lying? She kept saying she was telling the truth about that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 05:44:23 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
I must be seriously blind and stupod but I cannot find where "they" are discussing that page.  They ahve moved it to differnt threads, each with 100 pages.  I am confused! ::MonkeyConfused::  Help!  I want to be nosy!
As far as I can tell they've locked all the threads, so no new input.  Maybe its being discussed on topix, however I cannot find my way around there.  Maybe someone can take a look and post a link. 

Here's the WS link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70663&page=16

It's in the Zani timeline thread (which makes no sense...since it is breaking news) on page 16. Most are giving it good reviews.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hiding Monkey on January 16, 2009, 05:48:31 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Yep, sounding more and more premeditated all the time:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ZenaidaListing-1.jpg)
I think this is a coinsidence guys.  I pulled up several on the street and the dates were 5/08 and 9/08.  I believe this might be date info updated into system?

Didn't one of monkeys say they were contacting whitepages? 
Okay I phoned whitepages.com.  Was told they update these frequently, sometimes monthly.  You also have the option of updating yourselves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 05:48:35 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome to the Cage!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 05:49:17 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".
WELCOME I can just imagine how surreal the crime scene and Anthony house must be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:50:33 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome Luv!  That sounds cute!  I am around COl, OH  too. It is freezin here today huh?  Glad to have you.  I look forward to your future posts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 05:51:40 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome LUV!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 05:52:11 PM

Here's the WS link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70663&page=16

It's in the Zani timeline thread (which makes no sense...since it is breaking news) on page 16. Most are giving it good reviews.

Thank you so much for all your hard work!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 05:52:59 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

Yes I do, just don't know what.  I do believe their was alot of "code talking" going on especially between Lee and Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 05:53:25 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.
I believe the answer to that is in the e-mail between Sin-dy and her brother something to the effect that Rick said she bought a phone with that money mother showed me the bill. Another thing that has been bugging me all along-has anybody noticed in the KC interviews with LE she makes it a point to say"Zenaida was the last person I seen with my daughter" even to the point that she corrects herself to to make that same statement. Le says-you dropped your daughter off with Zanie-she says yes.. um Zenaida was the last person I seen with my daughter. Over and over. Maybe she said that because her alias was ZFG and in her mind she wasn't lying? She kept saying she was telling the truth about that.

#3 sounds a lot like Slore. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 06:04:05 PM
Klaas the office break-in was in Brevard County. Isn't UCF in Orlando?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 06:04:23 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
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Amazing photo.  What an outpouring of love.

It certainly is.....from perfect strangers....her family didn't love her enough to protect her....cin=cin KNEW casey was out of control...why didn't she go on and get custody of Caylee? Why didn't she insist on seeing or talking to Caylee for 31 days? Why did she never question Caylee about her nanny?? Why didn't she know the nanny? or her address? or her phone number? Why didn't she confront casey about their 'suspicions' that she didn't really have a job? Why didn't she love Caylee enough to protect her? :gaah:

Of course perfect strangers "love" Caylee more than her own family. Perfect strangers ALWAYS love you more than your own family. Your family knows your flaws. Strangers get your "company manners."

Besides, which is harder? To write a little poem and throw a teddy bear on a giant pile, or to file a custody suit? To create a little monument, or to change diapers and clean up after a baby for three years? Cindy messed up bigtime. She didn't know how to deal with Casey. She's a bit of a jerk, too. And dumb, apparently. But for all her faults, the photo record shows that she kept that child clean, well-fed, and cared for. She read to her and played with her and paid lots of attention to her--maybe TOO MUCH attention, even.

She is a nurse, not a therapist. She didn't catch all the warning signs of Casey's problems, and she didn't know how to fight the legal fight. Like every other grandparent in a dysfunctional family, she waited too long, gave her child too much credit. Everyone does it.

What if Cindy and Lee put teddy bears on the pile? would that suddenly prove they loved Caylee as much as the total strangers who created the cult of Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome Luv!  That sounds cute!  I am around COl, OH  too. It is freezin here today huh?  Glad to have you.  I look forward to your future posts!

Where is Cbus are u located? I'm in the Bexley area and my mom's off 161. It sure is cold...-21 windchill?!?! Crazy! Thanks for the warm welcome!(And that applies to everyone)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 06:05:27 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 06:08:43 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Here is the post - it is interresting:

bettejean on January 16th, 2009 2:07 pm
 
This is all quite interesting…Interesting also to note that the ZG whose computer was stolen at UCF on june 9 worked in the same building as nicole ganguzza, the jogger who was killed in blanchard park the very next night. Let’s make it more confusing: remember casey changing her story and saying zg threw her down at blanchard park and sped off with caylee on june 16? And her mysterious “blackjack phone” fell out of her purse in the process? The new phone she told police she had only had for about a week? Which means she would have gotten it around june 9 or 10, the same timeframe of nicole ganguzzas murder? And she said she stopped using it cuz it “wouldn’t hold its charge?” Well, interestingly enough, the cops found PART OF A CELL PHONE CHARGER near ganguzzas body. why oh why would our girl genius riddle herself into yet another crime scene?


Klaas,
I heard a couple of months ago that LE was going to name a suspect, remember how the composite looked a lot like LA? 

The ZG with the office break-in was in  Brevard County on June 8th or 9th. Isn't UCF in Orlando?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome Luv!  That sounds cute!  I am around COl, OH  too. It is freezin here today huh?  Glad to have you.  I look forward to your future posts!

Where is Cbus are u located? I'm in the Bexley area and my mom's off 161. It sure is cold...-21 windchill?!?! Crazy! Thanks for the warm welcome!(And that applies to everyone)

WELCOME. LUV!!! WE'RE GLAD YOU DECIDED TO JOIN US!!!!     ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 06:09:57 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Woah .. what a time I have had. LOL

Just got here, decided to welcome LuvLebronMonkey (WELCOME, btw)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/Animation2.gif)

and got locked out!!!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Bad timing, I say!

Anyway, welcome to the cage, LuvLebronMonkey.

And hello, Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Something I just thought of about the tickets-most of the time when a traffic stop is made, either 2 cops are in the car or a second cop car is there. Rarely do you see 1 cop at a traffic stop.  Maybe one cop did 1 violation and the second cop did the other


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.

But Russ, who says it something is at the bottom left of town????????  What the heck is the bottom left of town???

   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 06:12:57 PM
WELCOME LuvLebronMonkey !!   ::MonkeyDance::

and ALL the other NEW MONKEYS!!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 06:13:35 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pink angel on January 16, 2009, 06:13:36 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.

But Russ, who says it something is at the bottom left of town????????  What the heck is the bottom left of town???

   

Bottom left of town if you are looking at a map is the only thing that makes sense to me. Perhaps bottom left drawer? I dunno.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 06:14:58 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.

But Russ, who says it something is at the bottom left of town????????  What the heck is the bottom left of town???

   

Nobody talks like that unless they're looking at a map. Maybe Lee and Casey really were looking at a map?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 06:16:34 PM
Thanks for all the warm welcomes!!!

And just to clarify in case anyone is confused...LuvLebron comes from lovin' Lebron James, of the Cleveland Cavs....HUGE sports fan here!

So I'm goin to catch up on all this new info comin out.

Thanks again for everyone accepting a new monkey. I'm so glad to be in the cage!!!.....never thought I'd say that... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 06:16:55 PM
Something I just thought of about the tickets-most of the time when a traffic stop is made, either 2 cops are in the car or a second cop car is there. Rarely do you see 1 cop at a traffic stop.  Maybe one cop did 1 violation and the second cop did the other

That's a good possibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Im only on page 25 so far (behind as usual!) but wanted to comment on something I've been thinking. Regardless of all the evidence LE has against KC, I believe what's gonna hang her high is when the jury sees for themselves how cold she is, how uncaring, while she sits there in the courtroom during her trial and stares off, doodles, tries to hide her grins, etc. And if we're really lucky maybe they will get to see a tantrum or two from her, but even without that she is gonna be her own worst enemy when the jury sees firsthand how much she DOESNT care. She will put the noose around her own neck IMO.

WOW...that was fun..who broke the internet  ::MonkeyTongue::

I think KC's appearance is going to be very telling during the case..I'm looking forward to seeing her expressions when her old friends get up on the stand..I hope the networks have a split screen with one side focused on KC at all times...she does enjoy the spotlight  ::MonkeyRoll::
A temper tantrum would really be the icing on the cake  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 06:17:48 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.

But Russ, who says it something is at the bottom left of town????????  What the heck is the bottom left of town???

   

Nobody talks like them.  They "reach out" instead of call someone for instance.  Instead of someone telling them something they all say they "conveyed" something to them.  They are weird.  A regular chainsaw massacre family.  Strange to say the least.  I think she was giving everyone clues to where Caylee was from day one and was likely amused at how stupid everyone was in her own mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
Something I just thought of about the tickets-most of the time when a traffic stop is made, either 2 cops are in the car or a second cop car is there. Rarely do you see 1 cop at a traffic stop.  Maybe one cop did 1 violation and the second cop did the other

Hmm..  :2thinky:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 16, 2009, 06:18:50 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Hi Akmom,  
This has always sent chills up my spine as it just seems so odd. The police never did release how she was killed. They thought it might be related to a couple of other murders/rape, but they would not confirm it. They also thought they had the murderer but to date, no one has been charged. It is odd only because Casey then told on of her bondsmen this story about a guy walking up to her in Blanchard Park with a note and script. Making it sound like Blanchard Park was not a very safe area. Or an area where crime happened repeatedly. I posted my thoughts on the timeline/coincidences a week or so ago if you want to check them out.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.


There was chloroform involved though, iirc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
I just want to throw this out there, fwiw.  When we moved to Florida, four and half years ago, my great granddaughter, Madison, moved down here with us with her very, very young Dad.  The bio Mom was having problems growing up and agreed to Maddie coming with us.  Maddie had lived with us for the first two years of her life.

Well, we were here a few months, when who shows up with a skank boyfriend?  Oh yes, baby Mom.  My daughter let them both stay here while they were looking for jobs (here six months and never found work) which caused major problems, of course, with my grandson.  Grandson took off back to Massachusetts, left Maddie here.

Well, my daughter was beyond angry at the actions of both these teen parents and went to see a lawyer.  He told us that we could spend thousands of dollars and never, EVER get custody of Maddie.  Unless you have CONCRETE and WITNESSED PROOF OF NEGLECT OR ABUSE, you cannot get custody.  Certainly not just because the parents are behaving like ten year olds.  It is just not that easy to do and for some reason it is particularly difficult in FL.

Six months later, baby mom and skank boyfriend took Madison back to Massachusetts and there was nothing we could do.  Except cry.

I am NOT defending Cindy but there was most likely NOTHING she could do to get custody.  Not having a place to live or money for food is not enough.  Certainly stealing is not enough. 

BTW, happy enough ending to my story.  Both of them grew up (Dad and Mom), both of them are now married (to other people) and Maddie comes to visit one or twice a year for a week or two.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 06:20:35 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 06:21:10 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

I haven't seen cell phone records going back that far, only to June 15.


Never mind...I can't find what I thought I saw on that site now.  I must have imagined it  ::MonkeyConfused::.

I did find this interesting on that site. KC wanted to go on Survivor. These are her words below:
"i would love to go on Survivor."
the premise of the game is impeccable: outwit, outplay, outlast.
unfortunately, i wouldn't be able to be my "typical" self, because my mouth would probably get me in trouble. i would try my hardest to stay under the radar, and develop strong bonds with a multitude of players. it's a big social game, but there is a lot of physicality that plays into as well that's when being a smaller girl would work to my advantage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 06:24:03 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.

Huh, that is odd.  I wonder why that is?  Does anyone know whether it is true about the phone charger, and do we know what kind?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
In the interview w/ casey and LE at universal at about the 24 minute mark when they are really pushing her as to why she is lying and how lying will help lead LE to Caylee she says, "But saying I don't know and telling you that I just dropped her off and that is the last time that I've seen her and even starting with that everybody else is like well and what happened after that.  That just can't be it."

It is just amazing how she seems to think.  I guess after two years with apparently no accountability or real questions being asked regarding her obvious lies, maybe she thought she really was that good of a liar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 06:24:47 PM
Welcome LuvLebronMonkey.    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".

Welcome Luv!  That sounds cute!  I am around COl, OH  too. It is freezin here today huh?  Glad to have you.  I look forward to your future posts!

Where is Cbus are u located? I'm in the Bexley area and my mom's off 161. It sure is cold...-21 windchill?!?! Crazy! Thanks for the warm welcome!(And that applies to everyone)
Hilliard.  Brrrrr!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 06:25:33 PM
I just want to throw this out there, fwiw.  When we moved to Florida, four and half years ago, my great granddaughter, Madison, moved down here with us with her very, very young Dad.  The bio Mom was having problems growing up and agreed to Maddie coming with us.  Maddie had lived with us for the first two years of her life.

Well, we were here a few months, when who shows up with a skank boyfriend?  Oh yes, baby Mom.  My daughter let them both stay here while they were looking for jobs (here six months and never found work) which caused major problems, of course, with my grandson.  Grandson took off back to Massachusetts, left Maddie here.

Well, my daughter was beyond angry at the actions of both these teen parents and went to see a lawyer.  He told us that we could spend thousands of dollars and never, EVER get custody of Maddie.  Unless you have CONCRETE and WITNESSED PROOF OF NEGLECT OR ABUSE, you cannot get custody.  Certainly not just because the parents are behaving like ten year olds.  It is just not that easy to do and for some reason it is particularly difficult in FL.

Six months later, baby mom and skank boyfriend took Madison back to Massachusetts and there was nothing we could do.  Except cry.

I am NOT defending Cindy but there was most likely NOTHING she could do to get custody.  Not having a place to live or money for food is not enough.  Certainly stealing is not enough. 

BTW, happy enough ending to my story.  Both of them grew up (Dad and Mom), both of them are now married (to other people) and Maddie comes to visit one or twice a year for a week or two.

Glad to hear your situation had a happy ending.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 06:25:48 PM
Klaas the office break-in was in Brevard County. Isn't UCF in Orlando?

Hi All .........
Have no idea if this Helps any with the question above but I just came across this - on Ms./Mrs ?? Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala employed at UCF or through UCF. Anyway this is picture and her contact information. http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us
If you click on name it states her professional background within UCF
 Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
407-823-6120 ~ zkotala@mail.ucf.edu

    * Medicine
    * Health / Education
    * College of Health and Public Affairs
    * College of Sciences (Biology, Chemistry, Physics and National Center for Forensic Science)

And then I came across this, which is I believe the Same woman. Pictures do look alike to me.
http://newscontest.flatoday.net/EXPLOSION041107/src/flatoday.com/article940.htm

Now I found thru chasing her name with Florida today that she now has a website and it is called Moms to Mom.

New site for moms, by moms  Jun 25, 2007
An accomplished journalist and author of travel books, Annette has also taught English at William and Mary, and Florida Institute of Technology. Working Mom with Zenaida Gonzalez. (Florida Today)
http://colleges.surfwax.com/files/Florida_Institute_of_Technology.html


When you click on the surfwax topic dated June 25, 2007 - it directly opens to this Link

http://brevardcounty.momslikeme.com/members/exploregroups.aspx?p=159

Which you can see is Brevard County ...... not Orlando

And the Beat goes On ..........

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 06:26:05 PM

Anyway, welcome to the cage, LuvLebronMonkey.

And hello, Monkeys!

Hi Brandi  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

You too eh ?

Welcome LuvLebronMonkey !!!!

Can I call you Luv ?..I don't want to get too personal at our first meeting  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.


There was chloroform involved though, iirc.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????????????? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 06:30:08 PM

Anyway, welcome to the cage, LuvLebronMonkey.

And hello, Monkeys!

Hi Brandi  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

You too eh ?



Hi SS!

Yeah, me too .. I thought that was a fine "How do you do" for just getting here today! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 16, 2009, 06:30:10 PM
If Casey had only had the phone for a week or two and it didn't hold a charge then it should have been returned and get one that worked. Those aren't cheap phones and if I had bought one, even a cheap phone that didn't work it would go right back. SHe is so full of stuff.

The story about the jogger, ZG office breakin, etc is really intersting post. Thanks for adding some more stuff for me to think about. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Keepthefaith on January 16, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Snipped

Amazing photo.  What an outpouring of love.

It certainly is.....from perfect strangers....her family didn't love her enough to protect her....cin=cin KNEW casey was out of control...why didn't she go on and get custody of Caylee? Why didn't she insist on seeing or talking to Caylee for 31 days? Why did she never question Caylee about her nanny?? Why didn't she know the nanny? or her address? or her phone number? Why didn't she confront casey about their 'suspicions' that she didn't really have a job? Why didn't she love Caylee enough to protect her? :gaah:

Of course perfect strangers "love" Caylee more than her own family. Perfect strangers ALWAYS love you more than your own family. Your family knows your flaws. Strangers get your "company manners."

Besides, which is harder? To write a little poem and throw a teddy bear on a giant pile, or to file a custody suit? To create a little monument, or to change diapers and clean up after a baby for three years? Cindy messed up bigtime. She didn't know how to deal with Casey. She's a bit of a jerk, too. And dumb, apparently. But for all her faults, the photo record shows that she kept that child clean, well-fed, and cared for. She read to her and played with her and paid lots of attention to her--maybe TOO MUCH attention, even.

She is a nurse, not a therapist. She didn't catch all the warning signs of Casey's problems, and she didn't know how to fight the legal fight. Like every other grandparent in a dysfunctional family, she waited too long, gave her child too much credit. Everyone does it.  

What if Cindy and Lee put teddy bears on the pile? would that suddenly prove they loved Caylee as much as the total strangers who created the cult of Caylee?

I beg to differ.There are many parents that hold their children accountable and set boundaries.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 06:31:39 PM
Klaas the office break-in was in Brevard County. Isn't UCF in Orlando?

Hi All .........
Have no idea if this Helps any with the question above but I just came across this - on Ms./Mrs ?? Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala employed at UCF or through UCF. Anyway this is picture and her contact information. http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us
If you click on name it states her professional background within UCF
 Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
407-823-6120 ~ zkotala@mail.ucf.edu

    * Medicine
    * Health / Education
    * College of Health and Public Affairs
    * College of Sciences (Biology, Chemistry, Physics and National Center for Forensic Science)

And then I came across this, which is I believe the Same woman. Pictures do look alike to me.
http://newscontest.flatoday.net/EXPLOSION041107/src/flatoday.com/article940.htm

Now I found thru chasing her name with Florida today that she now has a website and it is called Moms to Mom.

New site for moms, by moms  Jun 25, 2007
An accomplished journalist and author of travel books, Annette has also taught English at William and Mary, and Florida Institute of Technology. Working Mom with Zenaida Gonzalez. (Florida Today)
http://colleges.surfwax.com/files/Florida_Institute_of_Technology.html


When you click on the surfwax topic dated June 25, 2007 - it directly opens to this Link

http://brevardcounty.momslikeme.com/members/exploregroups.aspx?p=159

Which you can see is Brevard County ...... not Orlando

And the Beat goes On ..........

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Yep I agree, same person


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 06:31:41 PM
Klaas the office break-in was in Brevard County. Isn't UCF in Orlando?

Hi All .........
Have no idea if this Helps any with the question above but I just came across this - on Ms./Mrs ?? Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala employed at UCF or through UCF. Anyway this is picture and her contact information. http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us
If you click on name it states her professional background within UCF
 Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
407-823-6120 ~ zkotala@mail.ucf.edu

    * Medicine
    * Health / Education
    * College of Health and Public Affairs
    * College of Sciences (Biology, Chemistry, Physics and National Center for Forensic Science)

And then I came across this, which is I believe the Same woman. Pictures do look alike to me.
http://newscontest.flatoday.net/EXPLOSION041107/src/flatoday.com/article940.htm

Now I found thru chasing her name with Florida today that she now has a website and it is called Moms to Mom.

New site for moms, by moms  Jun 25, 2007
An accomplished journalist and author of travel books, Annette has also taught English at William and Mary, and Florida Institute of Technology. Working Mom with Zenaida Gonzalez. (Florida Today)
http://colleges.surfwax.com/files/Florida_Institute_of_Technology.html


When you click on the surfwax topic dated June 25, 2007 - it directly opens to this Link

http://brevardcounty.momslikeme.com/members/exploregroups.aspx?p=159

Which you can see is Brevard County ...... not Orlando

And the Beat goes On ..........

 ::MonkeyRoll::


She had piece out on that website called "I'm not that Zenaida Gonzalez" or something like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 16, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.


There was chloroform involved though, iirc.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????????????? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I remember that from the gretawire in the beginning, and I remember sites discussing it.  Don't know if it is true or not.  If it is, well, then maybe something is connected.  The date they first gave corresponds that is for sure.  It was a camera that foiled that date from being the date of the disappearance.  If not for LE finding that picture, we might still be discussing another date.  I remember Casey saying something about Cindy not wanting her around Blanchard Park after dark.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 06:34:32 PM
About Lee and Casey talking in code about the blackjack. Well I thought she had used the grandfathers money to pay for a phone but maybe she just paid her phone bill. I will have to research that again.

Since they do talk code alot I would suggest going to
www.urbandictionary.com (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and put in blackjack. I found the #1 and #7 interesting. You might want to skip reading all the others unless you just need some reading material. Warning..warning..read some of them at your own risk.

I use this website to keep up with a nephew who has 3 myspace accounts. I try to keep up on things to understand him.

I may be wrong about this but I thought she paid her AT&T online with that money.  Anyone else remember this?  It was $354.00, I think.

4/08/08 cell phone bills Payments $354.04

4/08/08 Casey Anthony made a unaurthorized transfer of funds from Shirley Plesea husbands account, grandfather, in the amount of $354. to pay a cell phone bill.  The bank has reimbursed the funds.

on the Urban Dictionary site within the Words defining Black Jack
A police officer and or Bouncer is stated

Then I starting thinking back of Casey's Myspace ..and I remember that Peculiar Word that she had within a list on her Myspace ..I'm recalling them being a list of *possibly Nicknames for the people closest to her.

I recall the Word/Name " Wampa" and I did look it up a long time ago and it came to be a Starwar's Character and or evil monster ( sorry I am not privy to such star war trivia ~not a fan) but any hoo

Wampa is in Urban Dictionary what do you know ... (2) entries
 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wampa

wampa    16 up, 1 down love ithate it
   
A kickass beast who lives on Hoth and eats anything it damn well pleases. Wampas can only be killed by Jedi and Boba Fett.
A pack of wampas rampaged Coruscant and murdered everyone in sight...everyone.

wampa    3 up, 3 down love ithate it
   
Wampa - V
- A man that is one with the ladies.
- One who posses's extreme abilities in the "sack"
__________________

Isnt LA always using the Term Jedi ..? Or he thinks he is a Jedi or Vader of Orlando  :rambo:




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 06:35:48 PM
On HLN news


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 06:36:26 PM
Klaas the office break-in was in Brevard County. Isn't UCF in Orlando?

Hi All .........
Have no idea if this Helps any with the question above but I just came across this - on Ms./Mrs ?? Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala employed at UCF or through UCF. Anyway this is picture and her contact information. http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us
If you click on name it states her professional background within UCF
 Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
407-823-6120 ~ zkotala@mail.ucf.edu

    * Medicine
    * Health / Education
    * College of Health and Public Affairs
    * College of Sciences (Biology, Chemistry, Physics and National Center for Forensic Science)

And then I came across this, which is I believe the Same woman. Pictures do look alike to me.
http://newscontest.flatoday.net/EXPLOSION041107/src/flatoday.com/article940.htm

Now I found thru chasing her name with Florida today that she now has a website and it is called Moms to Mom.

New site for moms, by moms  Jun 25, 2007
An accomplished journalist and author of travel books, Annette has also taught English at William and Mary, and Florida Institute of Technology. Working Mom with Zenaida Gonzalez. (Florida Today)
http://colleges.surfwax.com/files/Florida_Institute_of_Technology.html


When you click on the surfwax topic dated June 25, 2007 - it directly opens to this Link

http://brevardcounty.momslikeme.com/members/exploregroups.aspx?p=159

Which you can see is Brevard County ...... not Orlando

And the Beat goes On ..........

 ::MonkeyRoll::


She had piece out on that website called "I'm not that Zenaida Gonzalez" or something like that.
Yah I just put all that in due to the Verbage going round that her Computer was stolen. I am sure that she is just as dismayed by her name being involved in all of this. Things we may never know ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 06:37:19 PM
O.K. Who broke the cage?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
  Maybe this is nothing, but I said something and I just wanted to repeat it because I think it kind of got lost.  When Lee and Casey are talking about the phone, she says that it is at the bottom left of town, near the mall.  Who talks like that??   As thought hey are looking at a map while they are saying it.  Does anyone else think that might be code for something?

I thought they were discussing where she got it from.

But Russ, who says it something is at the bottom left of town????????  What the heck is the bottom left of town???

   
I agree, I've never heard anybody describe an area like that, what is the bottom left of town? She could have said, the east side of Orlando, or something like that, but bottom left of town. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 06:42:21 PM
O.K. Who broke the cage?  ::MonkeyCool::

You must have...we've been here the whole time  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 06:45:55 PM
O.K. Who broke the cage?  ::MonkeyCool::

You must have...we've been here the whole time  ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyWaa::

O.K. What did you think about Blink's post? I find it very interesting.

Oh yeah,you better watch yourself come the next cage change.....  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Every time the girl that was killed in Blanchard Park comes up I get such a sick feeling.  Could someone refresh my mind as to how she was killed and what type of assault??  Maybe it is just a coincidence, but it is so odd.

Nicole Ganguzza was killed in the park, but the authorities aren't saying how she died--whether she was shot, strangled, stabbed, or died by some other means. They're still trying to find out who did it, and it's a strange case because it's definitely not a drug retaliation murder or anything like that. Nobody knows what happened.


There was chloroform involved though, iirc.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????????????? ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I remember that from the gretawire in the beginning, and I remember sites discussing it.  Don't know if it is true or not.  If it is, well, then maybe something is connected.  The date they first gave corresponds that is for sure.  It was a camera that foiled that date from being the date of the disappearance.  If not for LE finding that picture, we might still be discussing another date.  I remember Casey saying something about Cindy not wanting her around Blanchard Park after dark.

Wow, wonder if the Anthony's behavior at Blanchard Park when LP had the dive team there ties in someway??  Could they think maybe there is a possibility that they are connected???  Or that they have raised 2 killers?????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: eternal0void on January 16, 2009, 06:46:12 PM
Greta will be covering the case tonight. She has some photos from the crime scene (where Caylee was found) on Gretawire:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Snipped

Amazing photo.  What an outpouring of love.

It certainly is.....from perfect strangers....her family didn't love her enough to protect her....cin=cin KNEW casey was out of control...why didn't she go on and get custody of Caylee? Why didn't she insist on seeing or talking to Caylee for 31 days? Why did she never question Caylee about her nanny?? Why didn't she know the nanny? or her address? or her phone number? Why didn't she confront casey about their 'suspicions' that she didn't really have a job? Why didn't she love Caylee enough to protect her? :gaah:

Of course perfect strangers "love" Caylee more than her own family. Perfect strangers ALWAYS love you more than your own family. Your family knows your flaws. Strangers get your "company manners."

Besides, which is harder? To write a little poem and throw a teddy bear on a giant pile, or to file a custody suit? To create a little monument, or to change diapers and clean up after a baby for three years? Cindy messed up bigtime. She didn't know how to deal with Casey. She's a bit of a jerk, too. And dumb, apparently. But for all her faults, the photo record shows that she kept that child clean, well-fed, and cared for. She read to her and played with her and paid lots of attention to her--maybe TOO MUCH attention, even.

She is a nurse, not a therapist. She didn't catch all the warning signs of Casey's problems, and she didn't know how to fight the legal fight. Like every other grandparent in a dysfunctional family, she waited too long, gave her child too much credit. Everyone does it.

What if Cindy and Lee put teddy bears on the pile? would that suddenly prove they loved Caylee as much as the total strangers who created the cult of Caylee?

Frankly this may be an "outpouring of love" but this display shows the "love" is all being poured down the drain, for all the good it will do anyone but the people who put things into the display.

100% of the money put into those teddybears will be wasted as they rot away into an appalling mess, which will take even more money (from local taxpayers) to clean up.  Its an amazing waste of money on a display which does nothing to help children who are still alive, at least those who aren't a part of the total of FOUR CHILDREN dead from child abuse every day.

The far better use of your money (if you want to use it to express love) is to give to an organization which works to prevent child abuse and help child abuse survivors cope with the abuse they have suffered.  Unlike the 100% waste of money by buying a teddybear (unless you bought it from a fundraiser to help an anti-child-abuse organization), most such organizations put 90% of your donations towards saving children from child abuse and saving child abuse victims from the psychological horrors they suffer as a result of the abuse.

I realize that giving $10 to an organization which helps living children avoid death at the hands of their abusers isn't as public a gesture as spending $10 on a teddy bear and then (metaphorically speaking) using it to make a Native American man cry, but a famous man once said that good people should give and pray in secret, not shout out prayers on a street corner.

Here are some organizations which would be able to leverage your $10 (the amount you aren't spending on a teddy bear) into saving the lives of living children:

ChildHelp (http://www.childhelp.org/)

The Annie E. Casey Foundation (http://www.aecf.org/)

The Child Welfare League Of America (http://www.cwla.org/)

Remember: love is poured out regardless of whether you are donating money to an organization which helps to prevent child abuse, or buying a future rotting teddy bear to put on a mound of other future rotting teddy bears, but only one of those choices sends your love where it can help living children.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 06:46:13 PM
On HLN news

please elaborate ??  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
When did Tony and Casey break into the shed for the gas?  Did Tony actually give the date in his interview.  Did he say that he met Casey at the house or at her car prior to taking the gas cans back to the car? Also, what street was it on - I'm thinking it was close to her house.


During the interview w/ LE and Casey, she is asked about her car at Amscott running out of gas and whether that was before or after Caylee went missing. Casey pauses for a really long time for Casey and then says oh definitely after.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 06:49:23 PM
Sorry Sea Searcher,
They have a facial coding expert on about the Slore.  As well as some of the same regulars.  It is still on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
I just want to throw this out there, fwiw.  When we moved to Florida, four and half years ago, my great granddaughter, Madison, moved down here with us with her very, very young Dad.  The bio Mom was having problems growing up and agreed to Maddie coming with us.  Maddie had lived with us for the first two years of her life.

Well, we were here a few months, when who shows up with a skank boyfriend?  Oh yes, baby Mom.  My daughter let them both stay here while they were looking for jobs (here six months and never found work) which caused major problems, of course, with my grandson.  Grandson took off back to Massachusetts, left Maddie here.

Well, my daughter was beyond angry at the actions of both these teen parents and went to see a lawyer.  He told us that we could spend thousands of dollars and never, EVER get custody of Maddie.  Unless you have CONCRETE and WITNESSED PROOF OF NEGLECT OR ABUSE, you cannot get custody.  Certainly not just because the parents are behaving like ten year olds.  It is just not that easy to do and for some reason it is particularly difficult in FL.

Six months later, baby mom and skank boyfriend took Madison back to Massachusetts and there was nothing we could do.  Except cry.

I am NOT defending Cindy but there was most likely NOTHING she could do to get custody.  Not having a place to live or money for food is not enough.  Certainly stealing is not enough. 

BTW, happy enough ending to my story.  Both of them grew up (Dad and Mom), both of them are now married (to other people) and Maddie comes to visit one or twice a year for a week or two.
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 06:52:50 PM
Sorry Sea Searcher,
They have a facial coding expert on about the Slore.  As well as some of the same regulars.  It is still on.

Funny,
they are talking about yesterdays video and we have already moved on to Casey's double life!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 06:55:45 PM
Sorry Sea Searcher,
They have a facial coding expert on about the Slore.  As well as some of the same regulars.  It is still on.

Funny,
they are talking about yesterdays video and we have already moved on to Casey's double life!

Does anyone really need a "facial coding expert" to tell she's lying?  We all see how inappropriate her actions, demeanor and responses have been since day 31!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
I just want to throw this out there, fwiw.  When we moved to Florida, four and half years ago, my great granddaughter, Madison, moved down here with us with her very, very young Dad.  The bio Mom was having problems growing up and agreed to Maddie coming with us.  Maddie had lived with us for the first two years of her life.

Well, we were here a few months, when who shows up with a skank boyfriend?  Oh yes, baby Mom.  My daughter let them both stay here while they were looking for jobs (here six months and never found work) which caused major problems, of course, with my grandson.  Grandson took off back to Massachusetts, left Maddie here.

Well, my daughter was beyond angry at the actions of both these teen parents and went to see a lawyer.  He told us that we could spend thousands of dollars and never, EVER get custody of Maddie.  Unless you have CONCRETE and WITNESSED PROOF OF NEGLECT OR ABUSE, you cannot get custody.  Certainly not just because the parents are behaving like ten year olds.  It is just not that easy to do and for some reason it is particularly difficult in FL.

Six months later, baby mom and skank boyfriend took Madison back to Massachusetts and there was nothing we could do.  Except cry.

I am NOT defending Cindy but there was most likely NOTHING she could do to get custody.  Not having a place to live or money for food is not enough.  Certainly stealing is not enough. 

BTW, happy enough ending to my story.  Both of them grew up (Dad and Mom), both of them are now married (to other people) and Maddie comes to visit one or twice a year for a week or two.
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.

NR, she would have had to have proof, objective proof.  In other words, the court is not going to just believe the grandparent.  My daughter was more than willing to spend the money but the lawyer advised her not to.  We believed, knew, that the baby mom had been using drugs back in Massachusetts but she had no charges, hadn't been picked up in a drug sting by the police.  We had no proof other than her friends telling us she was using and once she came to the house and tried to pick up Maddie and she was definitely on something.  But we could PROVE nothing!

If Cindy had something that she could take into court and prove and didn't, then she is a lost soul.  I just don't see how she can ever recover from this.  And maybe that is the reason for her denial, she just cannot face that she could have stopped this.  Who knows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 07:00:20 PM
Sorry Sea Searcher,
They have a facial coding expert on about the Slore.  As well as some of the same regulars.  It is still on.

Funny,
they are talking about yesterdays video and we have already moved on to Casey's double life!

Does anyone really need a "facial coding expert" to tell she's lying?  We all see how inappropriate her actions, demeanor and responses have been since day 31!
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 16, 2009, 07:00:55 PM
Sorry Sea Searcher,
They have a facial coding expert on about the Slore.  As well as some of the same regulars.  It is still on.

Funny,
they are talking about yesterdays video and we have already moved on to Casey's double life!

Surely you mean Casey's many many life's?Seem's she had a different role she played in every relationship she ever had..Very strange individual indeed..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 16, 2009, 07:02:34 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 07:02:56 PM
O.K. Who broke the cage?  ::MonkeyCool::

You must have...we've been here the whole time  ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyWaa::

O.K. What did you think about Blink's post? I find it very interesting.

Oh yeah,you better watch yourself come the next cage change.....  ::MonkeyCool::

I had a hard time following the details...so I waited for the monkeys interpretation..

It sounded good to me...

Are we having a race tonight ? I dunno..37 pages to go..without a major BOMBSHELL, you might be asleep when we change over  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 07:03:08 PM
JVM - BOMBSHELL TAPE!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 07:03:25 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I think Mt. Dora is located in Lake County.  Where Cindy's parents live?

I think she was reacting to the Cindy asking her if there was "anything" in Lake County (that Casey should tell her).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 07:11:56 PM
JVM - BOMBSHELL TAPE!   ::MonkeyTongue::

Was that yesterdays tape or the PI's tape?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 07:13:27 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I think Mt. Dora is located in Lake County.  Where Cindy's parents live?

I think she was reacting to the Cindy asking her if there was "anything" in Lake County (that Casey should tell her).
(http://i34.tinypic.com/be7z2u.jpg)
Murt lives in Lake County


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 07:14:08 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I'm pretty sure that Mount Dora (Cindy's mom and dad) is in Lake County:

http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/Map_low.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
snipped from No Rose Colored Glasses
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.
-------------------------------
I have to say that in all reality Cindy ( in Casey's Mind) had Custody of Caylee and never allowed Casey to bond with Caylee from the time she was pregnant till the end of Caylee's life.

Possibly why Casey never told her Parents that she was pregnant until she was 7 mos. It was Casey's way of having control of the situation. Even though I do not believe that Casey was mature enough to handle the reality she was about to have a baby. Which goes back to Choice.

Casey could have had an Abortion and never told anyone at all. She didn't have one though. But then Cindy got involved and told Casey " Matter a Fact" since you went out and got Pregnant ... Your Punishment is " Your Keeping It". 

Cindy naming the unborn baby " Casey's Mistake" I am sure that Cindy ran her mouth every chance she could to Casey prior to Caylee's Birth ... Your a loser, Your Nothing, You went out and got Pregnant, You blah blah blah ... Negative Negative Negative ... Not My Daughter .... Angry, frustrated, them fighting all the while Casey was Pregnant.

And then out of the Heaven's came Caylee  - and right from Birth ..the Moment Caylee took her First Breath  **** CINDY*** Took Caylee and feel immediately in Love.

** talk about a Mental Minded Flip Flopper - Cindy

Mentally to a young woman who is uncertain of what she wants to do when she is Pregnant is scary and painful already. And to add mayhem to a Toxic Relationship that Cindy and Casey have had/shared .. ~It was un-wise, of Cindy, Her being a Mother, A Nurse, to Tell Casey that she had no say or rights to what she wanted to do after Caylee was born.

You add all that Fire and Fury into Casey's Mind and her relationship with her Mother and God knows what else that is within the Ant home. ** Many so many things wrong in this Family and we just do not know the facts, we can only speculate.  Wrong Personalities Clashing together for 20 yrs ... created Caylee's loss of life.

If Caylee would have been put up for Adoption, I am sure of it, that She would still Be Here today .. in a loving home, with loving parents who can't have their own Bio children.

Sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Sad










Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
Who's gonna check WS and see if they have a link to the front page?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas, can you email KCJackie and see if she'd be interested in revisiting the cell phone pings?  On 2nd thought, do we have access to pings back this far? 

Lovin, I have alot of friends and colleagues at WS, I respect the posters on that site alot. That being said, I had 14 emails in my inbox that specific threads were created on the matter, all of which were deleted or removed ::MonkeyEek::

However, many people are linking back in individual posts in a few different threads. From what I was sent, there is nothin but love and respect for the monkeys!  MonkeyLove!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 07:15:46 PM
I just want to throw this out there, fwiw.  When we moved to Florida, four and half years ago, my great granddaughter, Madison, moved down here with us with her very, very young Dad.  The bio Mom was having problems growing up and agreed to Maddie coming with us.  Maddie had lived with us for the first two years of her life.

Well, we were here a few months, when who shows up with a skank boyfriend?  Oh yes, baby Mom.  My daughter let them both stay here while they were looking for jobs (here six months and never found work) which caused major problems, of course, with my grandson.  Grandson took off back to Massachusetts, left Maddie here.

Well, my daughter was beyond angry at the actions of both these teen parents and went to see a lawyer.  He told us that we could spend thousands of dollars and never, EVER get custody of Maddie.  Unless you have CONCRETE and WITNESSED PROOF OF NEGLECT OR ABUSE, you cannot get custody.  Certainly not just because the parents are behaving like ten year olds.  It is just not that easy to do and for some reason it is particularly difficult in FL.

Six months later, baby mom and skank boyfriend took Madison back to Massachusetts and there was nothing we could do.  Except cry.

I am NOT defending Cindy but there was most likely NOTHING she could do to get custody.  Not having a place to live or money for food is not enough.  Certainly stealing is not enough. 

BTW, happy enough ending to my story.  Both of them grew up (Dad and Mom), both of them are now married (to other people) and Maddie comes to visit one or twice a year for a week or two.
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.
I am pretty sure that is where the therapist was going when she  said "kick her out of the house" Totally put her on her own and then go for custody. If the skank could not provide for her daughter then it would be easy for the Sin-dy to petition CPS to step in and give custody to her. That was the problem, imagine having to watch your daughter leave and take the baby with her knowing that her needs would not have been met even if it were for a short period of time. That is why it never happened, she could not bring herself to do that "tuff love" kind of thing. Caylee was filth's ace in the hole and why she got away with so much. I can just imagine the number of times filth told her mother that she would leave and take the baby and they would never see her again.That threat was probably repeated on the nite of the 15th during the battle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:17:11 PM
I think we all, or at least most of us, realize that Cindy cannot bring herself to admit that Casey killed Caylee, because she knows if that happened, she played a role in it.  Cindy said or did something that set Casey off, sent her flying out of the house with Caylee and possibly led to the murder.  That does not make Cindy directly responsible, but she may have been the catalyst that set it all in motion.  So she will remain in denial forever.  She cannot admit that they quarreled that weekend, that she planned to seek custody of Caylee or threatened to do that, that she and Casey had had problems for a long time, that they competed against each other and little Caylee was often the pawn in the middle.  George and Lee both said that Cindy and Casey had been fighting with each other and Cindy posted online that jealousy had caused her to lose Caylee.  But Cindy will not admit to any problems now, although they had plenty of problems with Casey that are known and no telling how many that are unknown.  This is what I deduce from all the things that have been learned in the case so far. 

Well said;  I also wonder why in the world didn't the adults in the family [ excludes Casey as she is immature at best albeit over the age of 18 ] chip in together to pay for regular daycare at some respectable & responsible place ???  Surely there are plenty of reliable private facilties in Orlando. 

I also find it very disturbing that you never see Caylee in photographs with other children -  Instead of the expense of a pool, why not provide your grandchild/niece with responsible daycare?  Everyone in that family knew Casey was a loose cannon and unfit, imo. Caylee would have had other little people to play with and there would have been no worries concerning Caylee's safety - she would be alive today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
You know, as HLN is replaying snippets of the some of that video, it reminds me that there is a "common sense" factor to this case that, I think, will weigh as much as the forensics in this case. Casey's reactions are just so far afield from what anyone would anticipate when lined up against her story. There are volumes of ways her story is going to crash and burn:

1. They won't be able to produce a single person who has ever seen Zanny; not a landlord from where Casey dropped her off, not one of Casey's friends, not one family member, not one neighbor.

2. They won't be able to produce one phone record of a call from Casey that can't be traced to a real person other than "Phantom Zanny".

3. Hard evidence of Casey "partying hardy" while it can be established that Caylee was no where to be found, is out there in living color. That behavior does not jive with a Mom of a kidnapped OR dead child. The only explanation for that behavior is a sociopath's personality. Sociopaths can kill.

4. I don't know how many lies can be strung together that Casey has told throughout this whole ordeal, but I'd bet it would circumference the earth at least once. Casey lies all the time, and she's good at it. The videos show the dynamics in that family, and also show just how good she is at lying. She's been lying most, if not all, of her life.

5. This stuff can be added up through any method of math you choose, but the total is the same. Casey killed Caylee, and the jury will see it, IMO.

6. The forensic evidence will just be the icing on the cake.

CASEY'S GOING DOWN....................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 07:17:42 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 07:19:23 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I think Mt. Dora is located in Lake County.  Where Cindy's parents live?

I think she was reacting to the Cindy asking her if there was "anything" in Lake County (that Casey should tell her).
(http://i34.tinypic.com/be7z2u.jpg)
Murt lives in Lake County

OMG, ROFLMAO, thanks for the much needed laugh....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:19:56 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

 ::MonkeyConfused::  Me too.  Am officially now certifiable.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 07:21:42 PM

Anyway, welcome to the cage, LuvLebronMonkey.

And hello, Monkeys!

Hi Brandi  (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

You too eh ?

Welcome LuvLebronMonkey !!!!

Can I call you Luv ?..I don't want to get too personal at our first meeting  ::MonkeyWink::

Hahaha yeah that's fine! I might change my name at some point...can't decide yet! I'm a girl who loves Lebron James and the cavs...what can I say?? But Luv is fine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:21:49 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.


lol.

Nutty is Kronk being employee t-56, who is t-55?

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Baez ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:21:51 PM
As someone here pointed out to me, the listing date in whitepages for Zenaida at 4709 hopespring was May 2008, around the time of the tickets.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63161351411978639180&lower=6&more_info=1&form_mode=

Also interesting that if you look and add...

4701
4709

add 47+1+9= 55...  timer55 ?



This case is making me nutty.

 ::MonkeyConfused::  Me too.  Am officially now certifiable.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Okay granted I'm old - but I get 57 when I add those numbers ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 07:22:07 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I think Mt. Dora is located in Lake County.  Where Cindy's parents live?

I think she was reacting to the Cindy asking her if there was "anything" in Lake County (that Casey should tell her).
(http://i34.tinypic.com/be7z2u.jpg)
Murt lives in Lake County

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 07:22:40 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST  - A MUST READ - YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Zenaida Gonzalez & Annie Leigh Downing’s Excellent Adventure: Zannie and Annie Go to Traffic Court



 ::MonkeyShocked:: WOW!! I go for Theory 1. But the only thing off-kilter that may have an explanation I don't know about, is why the citation #for AD is so different from ZG's if they were presumably written out at the same time? The two for ZG are in sequence.

I wonder if the missing blackjack phone is assigned to Zenaida Gonzalez?

Very good question Russ.

It says she was represented by counsel. Was Casey "ZG" represented by Baez? Is this why she had his number?

Now wouldn't that be something.  George sure seemed interested in how she got Baez's number initially.  It would also explain how she picked him - a current client perhaps?


Sometimes you need a low rate lawyer for a traffic violation.

LOL.. I go back to no lawyer of record on the docket. She either represented herself, which would have a "waiver" notation, or she never appeared..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 07:23:59 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I'm pretty sure that Mount Dora (Cindy's mom and dad) is in Lake County:

http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/Map_low.pdf

Thanks to those that responded.  Must just be that Cindy was asking in a backwards sort of way, if Caylee could be there


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)

ROTFL........ ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh my goodness it does - LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
snipped from No Rose Colored Glasses
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.
-------------------------------
I have to say that in all reality Cindy ( in Casey's Mind) had Custody of Caylee and never allowed Casey to bond with Caylee from the time she was pregnant till the end of Caylee's life.

Possibly why Casey never told her Parents that she was pregnant until she was 7 mos. It was Casey's way of having control of the situation. Even though I do not believe that Casey was mature enough to handle the reality she was about to have a baby. Which goes back to Choice.

Casey could have had an Abortion and never told anyone at all. She didn't have one though. But then Cindy got involved and told Casey " Matter a Fact" since you went out and got Pregnant ... Your Punishment is " Your Keeping It". 

Cindy naming the unborn baby " Casey's Mistake" I am sure that Cindy ran her mouth every chance she could to Casey prior to Caylee's Birth ... Your a loser, Your Nothing, You went out and got Pregnant, You blah blah blah ... Negative Negative Negative ... Not My Daughter .... Angry, frustrated, them fighting all the while Casey was Pregnant.

And then out of the Heaven's came Caylee  - and right from Birth ..the Moment Caylee took her First Breath  **** CINDY*** Took Caylee and feel immediately in Love.

** talk about a Mental Minded Flip Flopper - Cindy

Mentally to a young woman who is uncertain of what she wants to do when she is Pregnant is scary and painful already. And to add mayhem to a Toxic Relationship that Cindy and Casey have had/shared .. ~It was un-wise, of Cindy, Her being a Mother, A Nurse, to Tell Casey that she had no say or rights to what she wanted to do after Caylee was born.

You add all that Fire and Fury into Casey's Mind and her relationship with her Mother and God knows what else that is within the Ant home. ** Many so many things wrong in this Family and we just do not know the facts, we can only speculate.  Wrong Personalities Clashing together for 20 yrs ... created Caylee's loss of life.

If Caylee would have been put up for Adoption, I am sure of it, that She would still Be Here today .. in a loving home, with loving parents who can't have their own Bio children.

Sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Sad










Well, since Casey was dumping Caylee with babysitters when she wasn't even working, I wonder how much she REALLY wanted a child.  I think she (like many other young kids these days) loved the IDEA of being a mother.  Not so much the actual day to day work involved in raising a child.

I don't think we know what was going on that house, we can speculate until the cows come home, and that ain't knowledge, it is speculation.  I hope we get a clearer picture when the trial gets televised!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 07:28:10 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 07:28:48 PM
Blink-
2 questions if you don't mind
1.  Can you explain how Annie and Zanaida had 2 different citing officers?
2.  Have you heard from Kathy Belich?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Red on January 16, 2009, 07:28:49 PM
KUDOS to Blink34 for the FP post on Zanny & Annie.

If you read it I am sure your eyes popped open and if you have not, I suggest you run out to the FP and do so. It is quite the read and quite the research. We had been chatting about this for a while and was extremely pleased by the post.

Yes, you can rest assure that many people and agencies were forwarded it and some prior to it making the pages of SM.

Great job.

The reaction around the blogs and crime forums has been the same. Many people sitting up, eyes wide open and saying hmm ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)

ROTFL........ ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh my goodness it does - LOL

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:30:31 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 
Today - are you going thru an identity crisis?  I can't keep up with your avi changes!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Quite....I do wonder if there is some sort of connection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 07:31:43 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 

They are wrong.

Nejame never represented Casey and he never represented Cindy and George criminally, he made that very clear in the beginning.   He claimed to be acting as a sort of public relations type of person.  I see no conflict in him, after quitting the Anthonys offering the reward to Kronk.

I also see no problem with him representing TES.  Again, he NEVER represented Casey and never represented the Anthonys in a criminal sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 07:31:55 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 07:32:31 PM
KUDOS to Blink34 for the FP post on Zanny & Annie.

If you read it I am sure your eyes popped open and if you have not, I suggest you run out to the FP and do so. It is quite the read and quite the research. We had been chatting about this for a while and was extremely pleased by the post.

Yes, you can rest assure that many people and agencies were forwarded it and some prior to it making the pages of SM.

Great job.

The reaction around the blogs and crime forums has been the same. Many people sitting up, eyes wide open and saying hmm ...

Yes, great work Blink!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:33:40 PM
KUDOS to Blink34 for the FP post on Zanny & Annie.

If you read it I am sure your eyes popped open and if you have not, I suggest you run out to the FP and do so. It is quite the read and quite the research. We had been chatting about this for a while and was extremely pleased by the post.

Yes, you can rest assure that many people and agencies were forwarded it and some prior to it making the pages of SM.

Great job.

The reaction around the blogs and crime forums has been the same. Many people sitting up, eyes wide open and saying hmm ...

Yes, great work Blink!
I 2nd ... or 3rd ... or 1563rd that! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 07:34:09 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 
Today - are you going thru an identity crisis?  I can't keep up with your avi changes!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 07:34:18 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 
Today - are you going thru an identity crisis?  I can't keep up with your avi changes!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
YES LMAO
Actually I am looking at some stuff for CBB for possible new avatars and I'm trying them on to see how they fit. 

You have no idea how much fun I had when I found the place where you can change your name LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 07:34:47 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 

They are wrong.

Nejame never represented Casey and he never represented Cindy and George criminally, he made that very clear in the beginning.   He claimed to be acting as a sort of public relations type of person.  I see no conflict in him, after quitting the Anthonys offering the reward to Kronk.

I also see no problem with him representing TES.  Again, he NEVER represented Casey and never represented the Anthonys in a criminal sense.

I agree.  I just thing some talking heads are trying to make more drama.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
Did anyone read the 3rd comment under:  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/

Thought it was interesting.

Here is the post - it is interresting:

bettejean on January 16th, 2009 2:07 pm
 
This is all quite interesting…Interesting also to note that the ZG whose computer was stolen at UCF on june 9 worked in the same building as nicole ganguzza, the jogger who was killed in blanchard park the very next night. Let’s make it more confusing: remember casey changing her story and saying zg threw her down at blanchard park and sped off with caylee on june 16? And her mysterious “blackjack phone” fell out of her purse in the process? The new phone she told police she had only had for about a week? Which means she would have gotten it around june 9 or 10, the same timeframe of nicole ganguzzas murder? And she said she stopped using it cuz it “wouldn’t hold its charge?” Well, interestingly enough, the cops found PART OF A CELL PHONE CHARGER near ganguzzas body. why oh why would our girl genius riddle herself into yet another crime scene?


Klaas,
I heard a couple of months ago that LE was going to name a suspect, remember how the composite looked a lot like LA? 

In a perfect dream, they arrest LA for that murder and we find out that Casey was using code to keep LA from working against her.  Maybe Cindy and George have no choice but to support her otherwise they lose another.

Have fantasized something such as that myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 
Today - are you going thru an identity crisis?  I can't keep up with your avi changes!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
YES LMAO
Actually I am looking at some stuff for CBB for possible new avatars and I'm trying them on to see how they fit. 

You have no idea how much fun I had when I found the place where you can change your name LMAO
Shew!  Okay - I was just worried about you!  Back on topic again ... promise mods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 07:36:38 PM
WOW reporting that NeJame switch could be unethical.  Never thought about conflict of interest for him to represent TES. 

They are wrong.

Nejame never represented Casey and he never represented Cindy and George criminally, he made that very clear in the beginning.   He claimed to be acting as a sort of public relations type of person.  I see no conflict in him, after quitting the Anthonys offering the reward to Kronk.

I also see no problem with him representing TES.  Again, he NEVER represented Casey and never represented the Anthonys in a criminal sense.
Florida seems to have some very strange laws.  As I said I never thought about it being a conflict of interest.  Just reporting what was said on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 07:37:45 PM
Im only on page 25 so far (behind as usual!) but wanted to comment on something I've been thinking. Regardless of all the evidence LE has against KC, I believe what's gonna hang her high is when the jury sees for themselves how cold she is, how uncaring, while she sits there in the courtroom during her trial and stares off, doodles, tries to hide her grins, etc. And if we're really lucky maybe they will get to see a tantrum or two from her, but even without that she is gonna be her own worst enemy when the jury sees firsthand how much she DOESNT care. She will put the noose around her own neck IMO.

WOW...that was fun..who broke the internet  ::MonkeyTongue::

I think KC's appearance is going to be very telling during the case..I'm looking forward to seeing her expressions when her old friends get up on the stand..I hope the networks have a split screen with one side focused on KC at all times...she does enjoy the spotlight  ::MonkeyRoll::
A temper tantrum would really be the icing on the cake  ::MonkeyDance::

Oh, yeah! There's no way anybody could watch her non-reactions to Caylee's DEATH, and not find her guilty. She's got absolutely no concern, no interest. It's incredible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 07:43:20 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)

ROTFL........ ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh my goodness it does - LOL

Casey reminds me of a little child having a temper tantrum because she isn't getting her way.... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 07:43:39 PM
At this point I can't see this going to trial.  Baez isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer - but I think he's still throwing things at the wall to see what sticks ... and nothing has stuck so far. 

I can't imagine what possible scenario he can come up with to "fit" the evidence (even the little evidence that has been made public.)  Anyone? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
Monkeys, my head is spinning from all this new ZG info, the tapes, the Nicole Ganguzza connection (which I have always suspected myself, I have to say!). Plus, I haven't had much time to spend on this today -- have to keep jumping on and off the computer. But here's an interesting blog article from "MomLogic" I thought I would share with you. I think this person makes some interesting points:

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/01/casey_anthony_jail_august.php

When Casey says, "I wonder what's going on, if there's anything new," all she is wondering about is whether the ultimate proof of what she has done will be found: Caylee's body.

She is so scary. There's one point in this latest video when KC asks how her mom is doing, and as her mom is saying "not good," KC covers up half her face (including her mouth) and leaves one evil eye looking up toward her mom. I think she is covering a smirk. She is delighted to be causing her mom all this pain. It freaks me out everytime I see it.
 
There is someone else who looks somewhat like the Nicole Ganguzza suspect (the suspect who looks like LA), but I don't want anyone to throw nanners at me, and I don't want to get banned, so I am not going to say who I think it is, because this person has been cleared and seems to be a really good guy. It's a friend of Casey. I just can't shake the resemblance, though.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 07:45:14 PM
GREETINGS, FROM A NEW MONKEY!!!!!

I know everyone says this, but I have been reading your posts, or "lurking", for a long long time. My mom started coming to this site back when the Halloway case broke. She is a member, but rarely posts. I have been following this case obsessively from day 1...really day 32. And I have been reading your posts every day, like it's a religion!! It's really all my mom and I talk about! In fact, we went to visit my brother in Jax, FL over Christmas and we made him take a road trip with us to Orlando to see the murderer's house and where Caylee's remains were found....it was surreal to say the least.

I'm 24 from Columbus, OH and graduated from college last may with a degree in criminology and sociology and a minor in psychology...so you can see why this case fascinates me to no end. I have wanted to join for soooo long, but to be honest, every time I got on here I got so caught up in reading that I just never got around to it.

But now I feel I must join for a number of reasons...
1. I have so many opinions/feelings on this case that I can't keep to myself anymore.
2. I think you all are so smart and have wonderful insight...not to mention great sleuthing abilities!
3. You are all soooo darn funny!!!! I crack up all the time at some of the things you say and I feel like I know you all just from reading your posts.

Sorry this post is long and O/T, but I just wanted to introduce myself and to say that it's a privilege to be a "monkey".
I'm behind but welcome Lebron


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 07:46:12 PM
JVM drives me crazy-her not knowing the facts. It has be substantiated that Sin-devil saw a therapist. Duh and the attorney's name is Nejames not najohnny. GRRRR----

I checked with my SIL who is a cop down here in FL and they are never suppose to do a traffic stop without back-up unless it is totally unavoidable. All the cops use to be 2 to a car in the past but they changed that for more visibility, that is where the back-up thing came in. So I think that would answer the question about the 2 names/numbers  on the tickets.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 16, 2009, 07:47:52 PM
I dont know how you other Monkey's feel about this, but I truly believe this will never see the inside of a courtroom.
I believe she will be forced to cut a deal if what Lee is involved in or the A's can be proved to have had knowledge Caylee was deceased prior to Dec.11, 2008.

I watched the video last night, jaw on the floor, then watched it again without the sound and focused solely on Cindy and George. These people knew that child was dead, at least Cindy for sure. Made me wanna hurl. There is no reasonable explanation for their ensuing behavior anyone is ever going to make sense to me.

These people are a scam, and this child sits in a a box, following a lengthy stay in a garbage bag in a swamp- it is maddening.

Kronk calls LE 8/11, 8/12, 8/13.. I do believe Kronk was unknowingly tipped off by someone knowingly and he did not find her then. (my piece on Kronk reward..)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/15/robin-hood-alive-in-orlando-mark-nejame-rewards-roy-kronk-5k/#more-6513)

The jailhouse video takes place on 8/14 the next day. If there were cops and the like in that area 3x 3 days in a row, isnt it reasonable to assume they at least heard of that if not "known" outright?

I hope the concsious fairy visits these people in short order, I dont know how much more of this I can stomach.

rant over, sorry ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm with you there will be a deal, this will not go to trial, imo.

I agree, am expecting some sort of deal or such, to avoid trial.  Casey and all the A's have shown time after time that there is much they do not want to talk about, many secrets they seem to prefer keeping secret and not explain.  They all seem to have gone out of their way, talking in circles, etc rather than simply coming out with it all.  If this goes to trial, nearly all will be known, so am thinking that to preserve whatever they have left of their secrets, they will do anything, including cutting a deal if they are allowed to.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)

ROTFL........ ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh my goodness it does - LOL

Casey reminds me of a little child having a temper tantrum because she isn't getting her way.... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

And it's sad to think that this is just a fraction of what poor Caylee saw....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 07:49:00 PM
JVM drives me crazy-her not knowing the facts. It has be substantiated that Sin-devil saw a therapist. Duh and the attorney's name is Nejames not najohnny. GRRRR----

I checked with my SIL who is a cop down here in FL and they are never suppose to do a traffic stop without back-up unless it is totally unavoidable. All the cops use to be 2 to a car in the past but they changed that for more visibility, that is where the back-up thing came in. So I think that would answer the question about the 2 names/numbers  on the tickets.


Thanks Milardi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 07:50:09 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I'm pretty sure that Mount Dora (Cindy's mom and dad) is in Lake County:

http://www.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/Map_low.pdf

Thanks to those that responded.  Must just be that Cindy was asking in a backwards sort of way, if Caylee could be there
Maybe that is where the "bad photo's" were taken?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
You know, as HLN is replaying snippets of the some of that video, it reminds me that there is a "common sense" factor to this case that, I think, will weigh as much as the forensics in this case. Casey's reactions are just so far afield from what anyone would anticipate when lined up against her story. There are volumes of ways her story is going to crash and burn:

1. They won't be able to produce a single person who has ever seen Zanny; not a landlord from where Casey dropped her off, not one of Casey's friends, not one family member, not one neighbor.

2. They won't be able to produce one phone record of a call from Casey that can't be traced to a real person other than "Phantom Zanny".

3. Hard evidence of Casey "partying hardy" while it can be established that Caylee was no where to be found, is out there in living color. That behavior does not jive with a Mom of a kidnapped OR dead child. The only explanation for that behavior is a sociopath's personality. Sociopaths can kill.

4. I don't know how many lies can be strung together that Casey has told throughout this whole ordeal, but I'd bet it would circumference the earth at least once. Casey lies all the time, and she's good at it. The videos show the dynamics in that family, and also show just how good she is at lying. She's been lying most, if not all, of her life.

5. This stuff can be added up through any method of math you choose, but the total is the same. Casey killed Caylee, and the jury will see it, IMO.

6. The forensic evidence will just be the icing on the cake.

CASEY'S GOING DOWN....................

i think youre absolutely right. noones going to be able to get past the fact she didnt do anything for a month, and noone is going to be able to overlook the pics of what she was doing during that time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 07:51:29 PM
AND, you could totally see her hatred for Cindy in that video...It was so blatantly obvious...Which just leads me to beleive that those of us who theorized that she killed Caylee to spite Cindy , were probably right..... ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyRoll:: I've been wondering how Cindy is going to scrapbook these pics, hmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed2.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/kcpissed3.jpg)


The ugliness on the inside being reflected on the outside!



Looks like she is taking a big dump (I am wayyy behind, sorry if this has been mentioned)

ROTFL........ ::MonkeyHaHa::  Oh my goodness it does - LOL

Casey reminds me of a little child having a temper tantrum because she isn't getting her way.... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

And it's sad to think that this is just a fraction of what poor Caylee saw....

I was so happy when you see her frustration sitting in jail.... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Mary Ann on January 16, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Hey, I wonder if there were cameras in the courthouse when the fines were paid. That sure would be good viewing. I would even make popcorn!
Getting ready for more bombshells................I can watch NG without throwing shoes at the TV, I know I can.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 07:52:08 PM
The Video on topic of Casey * admitting for the First Time she actually has Feelings ...

She Admits to Anger
Now Cindy brought the Anger out of her
Cindy weeping and beside herself and Still Casey wants to talk about " Casey"
That was a kicker

Casey's little tantrum and All the questions she Avoided from her Parents
She turned each Question from Mom & Dad into a Quick Quip Response WHAT ABOUT ME?

Her saying she can't do anything and blah to help or aid and that she is only relying on Baez ..and then she screws up .. mins later and says

I have not gotten any Negative Mail from Anyone - Its all supportive
then -
She says Oh Yah I got a lot of stuff from what their saying about Me on the Internet and its all Negative and Bad and I have read it all.

* When Cindy pipes up and say Baez went to New York .. You can talk to Dominic Casey he is here to help you. 
Her/Casey's famous Last Words " I KNOW"  she says I know I have talked to Dominic Casey ......
My paraphrase - Of choosing an Anthony member to talk to -
Then she pleads and says she Wants her Daddy because they have in the past not been in a good relationship ... and she pulls the I miss/love My Daddy on George. Mom will take control of the Conversation and Lee will play Cop.

What a Hot Mess
All her statements of I Can't offer, I cant Help anyone, I am in Jail, ALONE .. :smt084 Nufhin about Caylee ..at all.

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 07:58:26 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
Okay Monkeys I am so behind, can I get a synopsis on what is going on please? I read the front page and would like to tell Blink GOOD JOB. Now, I am more confused than ever. I have tried to skim over things, but I don't know what is going on. TIA JSM

I will go back and read what I think I have missed.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 08:00:21 PM
Anthonys still selling Caylee T shirts.   http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=3.2.1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 08:02:15 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:03:25 PM
Anthonys still selling Caylee T shirts.   http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=3.2.1
Aw man!  It says page not available.  What in the world do they say?  "RIP Caylee - sorry your mom killed you"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
snipped from No Rose Colored Glasses
I'm glad there was a happy ending, and yes it would have been hard for Cindy to have gotten custody of Caylee, which would be interesting to know what she was all telling the therapist she was going to. For the therapist to have supposedly said to Cindy, throw Casey out and get custody of Caylee, she may have told the therapist some disturbing stories about Casey.
-------------------------------
I have to say that in all reality Cindy ( in Casey's Mind) had Custody of Caylee and never allowed Casey to bond with Caylee from the time she was pregnant till the end of Caylee's life.

Possibly why Casey never told her Parents that she was pregnant until she was 7 mos. It was Casey's way of having control of the situation. Even though I do not believe that Casey was mature enough to handle the reality she was about to have a baby. Which goes back to Choice.

Casey could have had an Abortion and never told anyone at all. She didn't have one though. But then Cindy got involved and told Casey " Matter a Fact" since you went out and got Pregnant ... Your Punishment is " Your Keeping It". 

Cindy naming the unborn baby " Casey's Mistake" I am sure that Cindy ran her mouth every chance she could to Casey prior to Caylee's Birth ... Your a loser, Your Nothing, You went out and got Pregnant, You blah blah blah ... Negative Negative Negative ... Not My Daughter .... Angry, frustrated, them fighting all the while Casey was Pregnant.

And then out of the Heaven's came Caylee  - and right from Birth ..the Moment Caylee took her First Breath  **** CINDY*** Took Caylee and feel immediately in Love.

** talk about a Mental Minded Flip Flopper - Cindy

Mentally to a young woman who is uncertain of what she wants to do when she is Pregnant is scary and painful already. And to add mayhem to a Toxic Relationship that Cindy and Casey have had/shared .. ~It was un-wise, of Cindy, Her being a Mother, A Nurse, to Tell Casey that she had no say or rights to what she wanted to do after Caylee was born.

You add all that Fire and Fury into Casey's Mind and her relationship with her Mother and God knows what else that is within the Ant home. ** Many so many things wrong in this Family and we just do not know the facts, we can only speculate.  Wrong Personalities Clashing together for 20 yrs ... created Caylee's loss of life.

If Caylee would have been put up for Adoption, I am sure of it, that She would still Be Here today .. in a loving home, with loving parents who can't have their own Bio children.

Sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Sad










Well, since Casey was dumping Caylee with babysitters when she wasn't even working, I wonder how much she REALLY wanted a child.  I think she (like many other young kids these days) loved the IDEA of being a mother.  Not so much the actual day to day work involved in raising a child.

I don't think we know what was going on that house, we can speculate until the cows come home, and that ain't knowledge, it is speculation.  I hope we get a clearer picture when the trial gets televised!
Garden that was my point - Casey Didnt want Caylee and she didnt want to be a Mom. That with Cindy & their twisted relationship ... Cindy making her Keep the Baby and all the while telling Casey your worse than I already thought you were "Your Pregnant". Your My biggest disappointment in My Life Casey Marie ..I am sure Cindy has been saying to Casey all her life. Then to create even more heartless action to Casey, the Minute Caylee was Born - Cindy's Life Started Again and She was HAPPY - because of Caylee. Casey could not STAND it ......... ate her alive.
I think they are BOTH MENTAL ... Cindy and Casey. Not Insane mind you..
Something started somewhere and it created a Monster * Casey   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
Snipped

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so

Quote
PADILLA: George and Cindy were completely mesmerized by this young lady. And let me explain something that just took place. The 14th of August, her attorney had already told her that we were flying back there to bail her out. She already knew she was coming out of jail and yet look at how she`s acting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 08:03:50 PM
Blink-
2 questions if you don't mind
1.  Can you explain how Annie and Zanaida had 2 different citing officers?
2.  Have you heard from Kathy Belich?

Not at all, perri

1. I am SURMISING, as the citation itself was not available due to prosecutorial status (note- I took that at face value, m goal was not to disprove or prove, as I know these things are manipulatable) that it was issued to AD after the fact because there was probably a stipulation that ZG needed to present ID. This explains why ZG's summons were filed on 2 seperate days and AD on 6/6. If anyone has a better splanation' as to why a seatbelt summons cost $71.50 and is issued nearly 2 weeks after the fact, Im open. Keep in mind, at the time of this "stop", AD had an OPEN and as yet unpaid speeding ticket, unless you believe she gets stopped and a double seat belt fine is issued for no moving violation.

2. I have not checked my email, I will. I did hear from a few local reporters, though, earlier.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Good evening monkeys and welcome newbies

I am so far behind in reading but did read the FP and I am in awww of the research that went into this I am just in WOW of all monkeys. Everyone does such a wonderful job I am honored to be amoung you all.

monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:06:06 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 08:09:03 PM
Am I seeing double or do Blink and Stacey have the same avatar?!?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
Am I seeing double or do Blink and Stacey have the same avatar?!?!
::MonkeyWink:: Do your magic Brandi!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 08:11:13 PM
Am I seeing double or do Blink and Stacey have the same avatar?!?!
::MonkeyWink:: Do your magic Brandi!  ::cartwheel::

I only work from my office, located in the link in my sig ;-)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 16, 2009, 08:13:10 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am cold, sleepy and haven't spent any time with my Josef in the past weeks.

Good job Blink. I wish I was a smart monkey like you!

MUFFY BEE!!!!! I'm glad you are back. I was so worried about you. I have to stay on topic from now on!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Everyone stay safe and warm in the cage.

JSM  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.

Casey was 22 and not a full time student or disabled.  How could G&C claim her on their taxes?  And I believe they would have had to have custody of Caylee in order to take her as a dependent.

I could be wrong, I often am.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 08:13:56 PM
The Video on topic of Casey * admitting for the First Time she actually has Feelings ...

She Admits to Anger
Now Cindy brought the Anger out of her
Cindy weeping and beside herself and Still Casey wants to talk about " Casey"
That was a kicker

Casey's little tantrum and All the questions she Avoided from her Parents
She turned each Question from Mom & Dad into a Quick Quip Response WHAT ABOUT ME?

Her saying she can't do anything and blah to help or aid and that she is only relying on Baez ..and then she screws up .. mins later and says

I have not gotten any Negative Mail from Anyone - Its all supportive
then -
She says Oh Yah I got a lot of stuff from what their saying about Me on the Internet and its all Negative and Bad and I have read it all.

* When Cindy pipes up and say Baez went to New York .. You can talk to Dominic Casey he is here to help you. 
Her/Casey's famous Last Words " I KNOW"  she says I know I have talked to Dominic Casey ......
My paraphrase - Of choosing an Anthony member to talk to -
Then she pleads and says she Wants her Daddy because they have in the past not been in a good relationship ... and she pulls the I miss/love My Daddy on George. Mom will take control of the Conversation and Lee will play Cop.

What a Hot Mess
All her statements of I Can't offer, I cant Help anyone, I am in Jail, ALONE .. :smt084 Nufhin about Caylee ..at all.

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so





LP just said on NG that he didn't know if JB had said anything to Casey yet but JB knew about it on the 12th



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 08:14:05 PM
Blink-
2 questions if you don't mind
1.  Can you explain how Annie and Zanaida had 2 different citing officers?
2.  Have you heard from Kathy Belich?

Not at all, perri

1. I am SURMISING, as the citation itself was not available due to prosecutorial status (note- I took that at face value, m goal was not to disprove or prove, as I know these things are manipulatable) that it was issued to AD after the fact because there was probably a stipulation that ZG needed to present ID. This explains why ZG's summons were filed on 2 seperate days and AD on 6/6. If anyone has a better splanation' as to why a seatbelt summons cost $71.50 and is issued nearly 2 weeks after the fact, Im open. Keep in mind, at the time of this "stop", AD had an OPEN and as yet unpaid speeding ticket, unless you believe she gets stopped and a double seat belt fine is issued for no moving violation.

2. I have not checked my email, I will. I did hear from a few local reporters, though, earlier.
Wow.  I am so proud of you.  Are you a SAHM?  Or a licenced PI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am cold, sleepy and haven't spent any time with my Josef in the past weeks.

Good job Blink. I wish I was a smart monkey like you!

MUFFY BEE!!!!! I'm glad you are back. I was so worried about you. I have to stay on topic from now on!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Everyone stay safe and warm in the cage.

JSM  ::MonkeyCool::
Night JSM ... Night Josef ... Night JohnBoy ... Night Mariellen ...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 08:14:30 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am cold, sleepy and haven't spent any time with my Josef in the past weeks.

Good job Blink. I wish I was a smart monkey like you!

MUFFY BEE!!!!! I'm glad you are back. I was so worried about you. I have to stay on topic from now on!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Everyone stay safe and warm in the cage.

JSM  ::MonkeyCool::

Sorry you have to leave so early tonight, JSM!

You and Josef stay warm and sleep well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:14:48 PM
Okay Monkeys I am so behind, can I get a synopsis on what is going on please? I read the front page and would like to tell Blink GOOD JOB. Now, I am more confused than ever. I have tried to skim over things, but I don't know what is going on. TIA JSM

I will go back and read what I think I have missed.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Okay Monkeys I'm behind Josesamas behind and I gotta tell ya, it aint pretty!!!  ::MonkeyWink::  I need her update too!!! j/k JSM you know I love you the most!!!
I'm exhausted!!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:15:28 PM
Nite Monkeys. I am cold, sleepy and haven't spent any time with my Josef in the past weeks.

Good job Blink. I wish I was a smart monkey like you!

MUFFY BEE!!!!! I'm glad you are back. I was so worried about you. I have to stay on topic from now on!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Everyone stay safe and warm in the cage.

JSM  ::MonkeyCool::

Night JSM!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
All I can say is that if Casey were my child and I was having to listen to that bullcrap b!tch fest she was spittin out at me....no amount of plated glass would have stopped me from smackin the hell out of her. 
Cindy's granddaughter was gone, missing, missed her birthday...your daughter is laughing at you at first glance for crying over missing her, and now is threatening to hang up and leave from talking to you??  She should be so lucky that someone wants to speak with her and cares enough to give a crap about not being able to see her daily.
I smell more than fish today...I smell the whole damn sewer when Casey's mouth opens.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 08:16:39 PM
 I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 16, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
*Snipped*
LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom,

I started my residency in a very large mental health hospital. My cases surrounded those who had Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar, Dissociative Personality, etc. I started with general counseling, marital, families, abuse, divorce....got involved in child custody, which has led me to a path in Forensic Psychology. I think Caylee was sexually abused yes, absolutely. Look at her face in the last video, she looks scared to death. Poor little thing. My little girl was born 1 year after Caylee. It just breaks my heart to see this case unfold. Caylee will always be a part of our life as I watch my angel grow up and think about what could have been Caylee. What's so unfortunate is this sort of dysfucntionalism is happening in homes all across America. The Lisa Steinberg case in 1999 was the first case of national news that really opened up the ability to even talk about child abuse. 1999!!! We have a long way to go but will get their faster with people like you! :)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 08:17:16 PM
Am I seeing double or do Blink and Stacey have the same avatar?!?!

LOL twin monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 08:17:47 PM
All I can say is that if Casey were my child and I was having to listen to that bullcrap b!tch fest she was spittin out at me....no amount of plated glass would have stopped me from smackin the hell out of her. 
Cindy's granddaughter was gone, missing, missed her birthday...your daughter is laughing at you at first glance for crying over missing her, and now is threatening to hang up and leave from talking to you??  She should be so lucky that someone wants to speak with her and cares enough to give a crap about not being able to see her daily.
I smell more than fish today...I smell the whole damn sewer when Casey's mouth opens.

Wow!  WE missed you today.  That was a grand entrance!
Have you seen the Front Page of Scared MOnkeys?  If not, you need to stop and view it now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 16, 2009, 08:18:02 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.

Whats Going on Monkeys??? Its been a looong week, this monkey is back to school so i had to cut down my monkey business. Luckily the release of the new tape came out towards the weekend, If i get time between drinking mybeer and doing my homework, i will write out what i think she meant while she was talking. No wonder Baez didnt want her talking at all, and he wanted to keep this tape away from us! Geez what didnt this girl doo..i think the part that catches my eye, and i will analyze it, when they talk about caylee in the pool...sooooo Monkeys, what do you think of this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:18:05 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....
Read the Front Page.  And see ... that Monkey Mojo got you through the air safely!  Monkey Hugs A1!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 08:19:12 PM
Snipped

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so

Quote
PADILLA: George and Cindy were completely mesmerized by this young lady. And let me explain something that just took place. The 14th of August, her attorney had already told her that we were flying back there to bail her out. She already knew she was coming out of jail and yet look at how she`s acting.


IIRC on NG a few minutes ago, LP seemed to back off on that earlier statement. Or did I hear wrongly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.

Casey was 22 and not a full time student or disabled.  How could G&C claim her on their taxes?  And I believe they would have had to have custody of Caylee in order to take her as a dependent.

I could be wrong, I often am.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually that makes sense!    Thanks!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Snipped

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so

Quote
PADILLA: George and Cindy were completely mesmerized by this young lady. And let me explain something that just took place. The 14th of August, her attorney had already told her that we were flying back there to bail her out. She already knew she was coming out of jail and yet look at how she`s acting.


IIRC on NG a few minutes ago, LP seemed to back off on that earlier statement. Or did I hear wrongly?

Yeap he did he said JB knew on the 12th but doesn't know if he had told Casey yet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Brandi on January 16, 2009, 08:21:18 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....

Hey, always 1 !!!

See, all the monkeys kept you safe on your flight!

I have to go now, you all have a great night.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 08:21:28 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....
Read the Front Page.  And see ... that Monkey Mojo got you through the air safely!  Monkey Hugs A1!
Thank you Newfie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:21:58 PM
All I can say is that if Casey were my child and I was having to listen to that bullcrap b!tch fest she was spittin out at me....no amount of plated glass would have stopped me from smackin the hell out of her. 
Cindy's granddaughter was gone, missing, missed her birthday...your daughter is laughing at you at first glance for crying over missing her, and now is threatening to hang up and leave from talking to you??  She should be so lucky that someone wants to speak with her and cares enough to give a crap about not being able to see her daily.
I smell more than fish today...I smell the whole damn sewer when Casey's mouth opens.
Wow!  WE missed you today.  That was a grand entrance!
Have you seen the Front Page of Scared MOnkeys?  If not, you need to stop and view it now.
Aw thank you!  Been a busy and long day today.
Yes I did read the front page, interesting to say the very least.  Will be very interesting to see how it all plays out and if there is in fact a connection.  Too many coincidences so far in this case to be, well, coincidences.

I wanna know where that anger, fight, and temper tantrum was when Casey was in questioning trying to find her daughter...she sure did not put that much effort into finding Caylee as she did into showing her disgust for being questioned by her parents.  Cry me a damn river Casey and do the world a favor and drown yourself in it.  There are grieving parents out there right now desperate to find their child, exhausting all means...and yet you were just waking up so you could go speak with your Mommy and Daddy..the only people who seems to give a rats b-hind about you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:21:58 PM
Snipped

*** Didnt Leonard say on NG last night that Casey knew that she was going to be Bonded out during those Tapes ? within a day or so

Quote
PADILLA: George and Cindy were completely mesmerized by this young lady. And let me explain something that just took place. The 14th of August, her attorney had already told her that we were flying back there to bail her out. She already knew she was coming out of jail and yet look at how she`s acting.


IIRC on NG a few minutes ago, LP seemed to back off on that earlier statement. Or did I hear wrongly?

You heard right.   He said he first talked to Baez on the 12th - so he wasn't absolutely sure if KC knew about him bailing her out by the time this jail visit took place (the 14th).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 16, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Night all....shutting down early. Puter is slowwwwwwww tonight. It is driving me nuts  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 08:22:31 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....

She put together the information for this front page post. 

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 08:22:49 PM
Night all....shutting down early. Puter is slowwwwwwww tonight. It is driving me nuts  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite NUT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:23:17 PM
Goodnight Brandi & Nut!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Stacey on January 16, 2009, 08:23:35 PM
LP said the lady that was in the house with Casey
Said when she got bonded out the first time and she whispered in JB ear I want to walk out with my head held high
That is not what she said she said get me the f``k out of here

Monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:23:38 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....

Hey, always 1 !!!

See, all the monkeys kept you safe on your flight!

I have to go now, you all have a great night.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/TinyHouseGoodnight2.gif)

Nite Brandi!

I'm leaving too - Good night everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 08:23:38 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....

She put together the information for this front page post. 

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%e2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/
I read that - Good job Blink!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:24:02 PM
I am not home, please tell me what Blink did.....
Read the Front Page.  And see ... that Monkey Mojo got you through the air safely!  Monkey Hugs A1!
Thank you Newfie.
I hope its a little warmer for you in Texas and thankfull you made it safe!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 16, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
Night all....shutting down early. Puter is slowwwwwwww tonight. It is driving me nuts  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Night!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
I don't know if anybody has seen the remakes of the Brady Buch movies but George with his stupid analogies of everything remind me of Mike Brady. In the movie everybody just rools their eyes whenever he starts them. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 
3babiesMom ~ thank u
With what that article says ... Do you believe in the name of psychology that the words stated factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries remove the sexual abuse but add Mental applies to the Ant Family .. applies to the childhood as siblings Casey and Lee. In my thoughts, I think they were very controlled and isolated from society by Cindy... When Casey's talks in this new found video - that she wants her supportive family and friends outside of her Parents .... She has always been a loner it seems and has little family outside of Dad, Mom and Lee.
Poor Boundaries I think can mean - Your not allowed to go out of MY Boundaries that I give You - Cindy to Casey. That it came to the Point that Casey never mentally grew up.
That she was to remain a Kid and not have cognitive decision making skills for her age. No Nanners. I mean with Life in the real world. Getting a Job, paying Bills, Supporting yourself being honest, working etc... being accountable, responsible without being told to

But what I cant understand is why she lies all the time. She acts like a little kid. Is not accountable, is not responsible and then when she proves It on a higher level  by stealing, lying, cheating etc ... Cindy just let her continue that way and has never said STOP or I am going to prosecute you or anything ..nothing. That is hard for the majority of us to understand 99.9%.

I understand that Casey *possibly is a Pathological liar .. more than probable is.
Environment, Mental Abuse, etc ... would be Key to a person acting out - Not specifically of why  Casey is Casey but I do believe that Cindy's influence on Casey has a " Part" in how Casey is today. I am NO WAY Defending Casey because I know people personally that have lived horrible,sad,awful childhoods and are not abusive nor are evil as adults today. They have good jobs, Homes, Families and are loving people.
The Ants in the family unit though screams dysfunctional.






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 16, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 

You're saying incest survivors never become manipulative aggressors? Haven't you known adult women who behaved in a predatory way because they had learned that the predator always wins?

George's little business with the gun, and Casey's promiscuous, aggressive behavior seems to me to be very consistent with sexual abuse and molestation. I'm not a professional, but I have met a lot of women who, having been unable to stop sexual abuse from relatives, went on to sexualize every relationship they had with the opposite sex, and to take a very aggressive stance, too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 08:26:33 PM
KUDOS to Blink34 for the FP post on Zanny & Annie.

If you read it I am sure your eyes popped open and if you have not, I suggest you run out to the FP and do so. It is quite the read and quite the research. We had been chatting about this for a while and was extremely pleased by the post.

Yes, you can rest assure that many people and agencies were forwarded it and some prior to it making the pages of SM.

Great job.

The reaction around the blogs and crime forums has been the same. Many people sitting up, eyes wide open and saying hmm ...

Yes, great work Blink!

Team Effort Monkeys- but I sincerely appreciate the support; although I would be just as happy to never have to work on a case like this again. Sadly, we all know the odds of that. Hopefully we are better, faster, smarter because of it.

It starts with caring about the issue, which all of you clearly do. I commend you for taking even 3 seconds of a thought to care what happens unjustly to people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:26:52 PM
I read the front page, way to go Blink!!!!   ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
night sleepy monkeys!!

Now a snake ate Caylee - huh???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: theboyzmom on January 16, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.

Casey was 22 and not a full time student or disabled.  How could G&C claim her on their taxes?  And I believe they would have had to have custody of Caylee in order to take her as a dependent.

I could be wrong, I often am.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually that makes sense!    Thanks!    ::MonkeyCool::

I am way behind but here goes anyway!  I suspect that KC was claiming Caylee and claiming as head of the household. Then even if she did not have income she would get money back. Strange but true!  The other option is that she did not file any taxes since there is no requirement to file if you do not owe taxes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
Remains inside a dead snake.   Did I hear that correctly?  Kronk has picture of dead snake? 
Oh what a tangle web we weave
(http://i42.tinypic.com/104j58o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:30:59 PM
I don't know if anybody has seen the remakes of the Brady Buch movies but George with his stupid analogies of everything remind me of Mike Brady. In the movie everybody just rools their eyes whenever he starts them. ::MonkeyLaugh::
OH My GAWD that is tooo Funny because I said that Outloud to My TV last night listening to Cindy on the tapes ... I yelled OK ... Carol Brady !  All my Cats know when I am watching NG they leave the room ...cuz Momma  :gaah:tends to Raise her Voice ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:31:40 PM
Remains inside a dead snake.   Did I hear that correctly?  Kronk has picture of dead snake? 
Oh what a tangle web we weave
(http://i42.tinypic.com/104j58o.jpg)

I heard it too.  Seems way far fetched.  But hey, who knows.  Maybe Casey dated that snake too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 08:34:46 PM
night sleepy monkeys!!

Now a snake ate Caylee - huh???

Ok.  I am going to go watch NG now.
you have peeked my interest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:37:29 PM
Little late - but Night Sassy!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:38:08 PM
Watching Cindy and George's reaction to Casey's outbursts just assures me that this type of behavior is something that they are familiar with from her.  You do not hear Cindy with "What is wrong? Have you lost it??" no you hear her trying to calm her down with "Casey, don't leave, here talk to Dad". 
Her facial expressions with the pouty "Whaahh!!" look says it all to me.  GROW UP!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 08:39:11 PM
Sassycat, I think that financial records could tell an awful lot of this story.  I suspect George and Cindy claimed Caylee on their income tax returns.  And did Casey file a return?  I doubt it, since she had no job.  But here is the big deal for me:  If Caylee were put into daycare every weekday, and Cindy claims to have thought, somebody could have claimed that as a deduction on their income taxes.  In other words, did Cindy ever ask Casey for receipts or verification of childcare?  You would think that would be important to the Anthonys, given their financial status.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:39:31 PM
I read the front page, way to go Blink!!!!   ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel::
Evening my Frozen BooMonkey ... Was that not the Best Ever by Blink !
I hope your feeling Betters ....  :sunny:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:41:22 PM
Sassycat, I think that financial records could tell an awful lot of this story.  I suspect George and Cindy claimed Caylee on their income tax returns.  And did Casey file a return?  I doubt it, since she had no job.  But here is the big deal for me:  If Caylee were put into daycare every weekday, and Cindy claims to have thought, somebody could have claimed that as a deduction on their income taxes.  In other words, did Cindy ever ask Casey for receipts or verification of childcare?  You would think that would be important to the Anthonys, given their financial status.
Great point Hudsunn.  This family is in for a whole heep of trouble if the IRS were to get a hold of that info...........................................just sayin :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 08:41:33 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
Sassycat, I think that financial records could tell an awful lot of this story.  I suspect George and Cindy claimed Caylee on their income tax returns.  And did Casey file a return?  I doubt it, since she had no job.  But here is the big deal for me:  If Caylee were put into daycare every weekday, and Cindy claims to have thought, somebody could have claimed that as a deduction on their income taxes.  In other words, did Cindy ever ask Casey for receipts or verification of childcare?  You would think that would be important to the Anthonys, given their financial status.
You'd think it would have been important to have met the nanny or had her address or phone number too ... but nope ... JMO, but CA never believed the work or nanny story ... she just went along to placate Casey ... as seemed to be the norm in that family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 16, 2009, 08:43:46 PM
GOOD EVENING ALL!!
I've been entirely too busy today  & am just catching up! Thank you all for reading my post from this morning. I intended to post more earlier but it didn't work out that way! My brother's ex is a sociopath & they have 2 children. Needless to say, there is constant turmoil. This woman is remarried(for the moment) & has an 8 month old with this man. She has almost zero contact with this child having hired a nanny to perform all motherly duties. She does NOT work! My intense interest in this case stems from my personal experience. I am not a psychologist, but I have spent the past several years studying personality disorders. I don't know everything; but I've learned alot!

LUCKYCHARMSPRINCESS: I really appreciate your input; but I respectfully disagree with your statement: "People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders"
According to Robert Hare Phd, author of "Without Conscience" , creator of the "Psychopathy Checklist" & the world's leading authority on psychopathy:

Many researchers, clinicians, and writers use the terms psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. Sometimes the term sociopathy is used because it is less likely than is psychopathy to be confused with psychoticism or insanity. In many cases the choice of term reflects the user's views on the origins and determinents of the clinical syndrome or disorder described in this book. Thus, some clinicians and researchers--as well as most sociologists and criminologists--who believe that the syndrome is forged entirely by social forces and early experiences prefer the term sociopath, whereas those--including this writer--who feel that psychological, biological, and genetic factors also contribute to development of the syndrome generally use the term psychopath. The same individual  therefore could be diagnosed as a sociopath by one expert and as a psychopath by  another.

He does take issue with interchanging the term anti-social personality disorder with both of these believing that anti-social does not cover all aspects of psychopathy. Anti-social defined by; a cluster of criminal and anti-social behaviors & psychopathy defined by; a cluster of both personality traits and socially deviant behaviors(as defined in DSM IV, the psychology bible.

CONDUCT DISORDER is the term used to define individuals, with this syndrome, who are under age 18.


Got company coming, will try to be back later. If not, nite all!  ::MonkeyRoll::


KUDOS TO BLINK: MONKEYS RULE!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
I think it became so obvious that Casey had a lifetime of manipulating her family when she said she wasn't in charge, or in control of everything by saying "No, not any more", meaning not since she was behind bars. However, she then goes on prove just how much she still is in control. She totally controls her conversations.
I also think her ego is so great that she convinced Baez that this was the video which would sway any jury in her favor. "They would absolutely sympathize with me. I cried, and they can see how my parents didn't care about me at all, but wanted to talk about the stuff THEY thought was important. I explained exactly why I was a victim and how unfair the media has been to me. Jose, there won't be a dry eye in the court room....Blah, Blah, Blah"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 16, 2009, 08:48:53 PM
There is someone on foxblog claiming a pic of Caylees skull is on the net.. I call BS since she seems to be the ONLY one whom has found this photo..think it is a sick attention ploy.. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:49:23 PM
Sassycat, I think that financial records could tell an awful lot of this story.  I suspect George and Cindy claimed Caylee on their income tax returns.  And did Casey file a return?  I doubt it, since she had no job.  But here is the big deal for me:  If Caylee were put into daycare every weekday, and Cindy claims to have thought, somebody could have claimed that as a deduction on their income taxes.  In other words, did Cindy ever ask Casey for receipts or verification of childcare?  You would think that would be important to the Anthonys, given their financial status.
Hudsunn I do not know about the taxes and filing system in Florida but In Michigan if your a working Single parent (not head of the household)and have a child in daycare(with proof) you are given a huge tax break and it shows in your return - Its quite a lot in your return if your under a certain level of income.
My old days when my Daughter was 2 and under .. I lived on my own prior, but circumstance of job loss brought me back to my parents, I was out again by the time she was almost 2, and on my own. That's the other thing I do not understand... I could not wait to leave my parents house..was like Fire under my heels ..to Live Independently from them was Freedom. Mentally, physically, emotionally for me - and Above ALL it was to Show my Daughter that no matter what circumstances are within your Life ... YOU can Achieve anything if your Willing to work for it. Stand Up and you will be Counted.
Casey never gave Caylee that .. she never showed Caylee * Momma will Do everything In My Power to Make Your Life Good, Healthy and it will Be YOU and I and we together as Family.

Hmmmmm






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14wt3yh.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:49:32 PM
I think it became so obvious that Casey had a lifetime of manipulating her family when she said she wasn't in charge, or in control of everything by saying "No, not any more", meaning not since she was behind bars. However, she then goes on prove just how much she still is in control. She totally controls her conversations.
I also think her ego is so great that she convinced Baez that this was the video which would sway any jury in her favor. "They would absolutely sympathize with me. I cried, and they can see how my parents didn't care about me at all, but wanted to talk about the stuff THEY thought was important. I explained exactly why I was a victim and how unfair the media has been to me. Jose, there won't be a dry eye in the court room....Blah, Blah, Blah"
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 08:50:29 PM
Right, Dolce.  If they have been claiming Caylee as a dependent and taking the child care deduction, when she was not in anyone's care, they could be in trouble with the IRS.  But I really doubt Cindy did that.  I think she knew there was no sitter and that Casey had no job. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:51:36 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:51:44 PM
I think it became so obvious that Casey had a lifetime of manipulating her family when she said she wasn't in charge, or in control of everything by saying "No, not any more", meaning not since she was behind bars. However, she then goes on prove just how much she still is in control. She totally controls her conversations.
I also think her ego is so great that she convinced Baez that this was the video which would sway any jury in her favor. "They would absolutely sympathize with me. I cried, and they can see how my parents didn't care about me at all, but wanted to talk about the stuff THEY thought was important. I explained exactly why I was a victim and how unfair the media has been to me. Jose, there won't be a dry eye in the court room....Blah, Blah, Blah"
Maybe that's why this Video was held and Now just released ....... the Last thing you see is always on the forefront of memory ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 08:51:59 PM


I can't believe  George and Sin-dy saying your the Boss and she charges back I am no longer in charge!!! WOW. ::MonkeyConfused::  Everything was taken away from her- Her life taken away- What a POS...What about Caylee ?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:53:27 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:53:28 PM
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Take me to Target ............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
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Take me to Target ............
"My place or yours? Oh right...mine"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 08:54:50 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 08:55:30 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!

Why would the defense want this video released? Are they going towards insanity she has mental problems??? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:56:24 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

Maybe it bit Casey while she was out there and it died from her venom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 08:56:58 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?
I never thought about it ingesting poison, they are checking the snake, at least that is what was said on NG. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
Right, Dolce.  If they have been claiming Caylee as a dependent and taking the child care deduction, when she was not in anyone's care, they could be in trouble with the IRS.  But I really doubt Cindy did that.  I think she knew there was no sitter and that Casey had no job. 
They probably were told by filth that she was claiming Caylee, and you are right with the head of household and I believe it the earned income credit she would get back a couple of thousand dollars, even not working. I have yet to figure that out but I know that my daughter uses it and makes less that 15 thousand a year and she get back like 5 thousand every year with 2 kids. It's crazy. The other thing is that in order to claim the childcare credit you have to provide name address and social security number of the childcare provider. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 08:57:13 PM
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Take me to Target ............
I think she's biting his neck ... and he's now one of her evil minions ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 16, 2009, 08:57:21 PM
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Good Night


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!

Why would the defense want this video released? Are they going towards insanity she has mental problems??? ::MonkeyTongue::
I thought that it was said the defense did not want this released....I see nothing that would be helpful for them with this video, unless Baez is secretly working with the Prosecution. (ya right)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 08:58:31 PM


I can't believe  George and Sin-dy saying your the Boss and she charges back I am no longer in charge!!! WOW. ::MonkeyConfused::  Everything was taken away from her- Her life taken away- What a POS...What about Caylee ?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Shows how Casey can make both of them Fall apart. Do you notice that George actually Stutters ...after that Comment via Casey I am not in Charge ... and you see Cindy with her face as though it has been set upon a George Foreman Grill ...after Casey get's thru her RANT ....  She is the Boss the Diabolical Boss even behind bars ... With her Behind Bars she is stronger than she has ever been. She has herself in Jail and is playing Martyr with her Parents.

If you listen carefully she says to her Parents - YOU had your chance to get me out. YOU put me are keeping me here  in all words .... and they Sit and Sit and crack up ..on the other side of the screen.

NO Caylee ... Caylee is Not even within this conversation - Because Its All About Casey



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 08:59:17 PM
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Take me to Target ............
I think she's biting his neck ... and he's now one of her evil minions ...


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
More!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 08:59:31 PM
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Good Night
Nighters!  See you tomorrow Today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 09:00:19 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!

Why would the defense want this video released? Are they going towards insanity she has mental problems??? ::MonkeyTongue::
I think he was eluding to the fact that everything was not turned over in discovery this tape being an example. (police misconduct was probably the fact that this tape from the jail LE did not get turned over to the proper person so that it could be included in discovery)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 09:00:20 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

Maybe it bit Casey while she was out there and it died from her venom.

Good one CM!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 16, 2009, 09:00:36 PM
 
Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
 
Caylee T-shirt 

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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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VIDEO: Missing toddler tshirts still being sold
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 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: milardi on January 16, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

Maybe it bit Casey while she was out there and it died from her venom.

Good one CM!!! ::MonkeyDance::
Maybe it died from a chlorophorm overdose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
Right, Dolce.  If they have been claiming Caylee as a dependent and taking the child care deduction, when she was not in anyone's care, they could be in trouble with the IRS.  But I really doubt Cindy did that.  I think she knew there was no sitter and that Casey had no job. 
They probably were told by filth that she was claiming Caylee, and you are right with the head of household and I believe it the earned income credit she would get back a couple of thousand dollars, even not working. I have yet to figure that out but I know that my daughter uses it and makes less that 15 thousand a year and she get back like 5 thousand every year with 2 kids. It's crazy. The other thing is that in order to claim the childcare credit you have to provide name address and social security number of the childcare provider. 
Don't you also have to have a J-O-B to file taxes?  And we know she didn't have one of those ... at least not a legitimate one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 09:01:56 PM
Well in the video Casey does say she knows nothing about anything, but her show of temper is not at all helpful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:01:57 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

Maybe it bit Casey while she was out there and it died from her venom.

Good one CM!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Woo Hoo - I have a knick name!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 09:02:41 PM


I can't believe  George and Sin-dy saying your the Boss and she charges back I am no longer in charge!!! WOW. ::MonkeyConfused::  Everything was taken away from her- Her life taken away- What a POS...What about Caylee ?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Shows how Casey can make both of them Fall apart. Do you notice that George actually Stutters ...after that Comment via Casey I am not in Charge ... and you see Cindy with her face as though it has been set upon a George Foreman Grill ...after Casey get's thru her RANT ....  She is the Boss the Diabolical Boss even behind bars ... With her Behind Bars she is stronger than she has ever been. She has herself in Jail and is playing Martyr with her Parents.

If you listen carefully she says to her Parents - YOU had your chance to get me out. YOU put me are keeping me here  in all words .... and they Sit and Sit and crack up ..on the other side of the screen.

NO Caylee ... Caylee is Not even within this conversation - Because Its All About Casey



I felt sorry for George and Sin-dy in the beginning but after they realize Caylee was murder by that POS they went in to cover up mode that did it for me... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Pebbles on January 16, 2009, 09:04:01 PM
Right, Dolce.  If they have been claiming Caylee as a dependent and taking the child care deduction, when she was not in anyone's care, they could be in trouble with the IRS.  But I really doubt Cindy did that.  I think she knew there was no sitter and that Casey had no job. 
They probably were told by filth that she was claiming Caylee, and you are right with the head of household and I believe it the earned income credit she would get back a couple of thousand dollars, even not working. I have yet to figure that out but I know that my daughter uses it and makes less that 15 thousand a year and she get back like 5 thousand every year with 2 kids. It's crazy. The other thing is that in order to claim the childcare credit you have to provide name address and social security number of the childcare provider. 
Actually KC couldn't file as head of household or get earned income credit unless she had a job.  You have to have wages before you can get this money from IRS.  Actually George & Cindy could have claimed them both as dependents if they knew KC wasn't working, as long as they were living in their home and they provided over half their support.  I'm guessing that they missed out on that money cause KC had them believing that she was working.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 16, 2009, 09:04:07 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: akmom on January 16, 2009, 09:04:14 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

I do not even want to be thinking, what I am thinking


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 16, 2009, 09:04:30 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder if it died of natural causes or if it ingested poison from something it ate?

Maybe it bit Casey while she was out there and it died from her venom.
::MonkeyHaHa:: took the words right outta my mouth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 09:05:13 PM
 
Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
 
Caylee T-shirt 

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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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VIDEO: Missing toddler tshirts still being sold
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 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.
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Yes Michelle, I think you should talk to Cindy about closing the sale. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:05:47 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!

Why would the defense want this video released? Are they going towards insanity she has mental problems??? ::MonkeyTongue::
I think he was eluding to the fact that everything was not turned over in discovery this tape being an example. (police misconduct was probably the fact that this tape from the jail LE did not get turned over to the proper person so that it could be included in discovery)
Ah ha!  Duh!  Good call milardi!  I wasn't even thinking motive-like misconduct ... I was looking for LE beating the crap out of Casey or something!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 09:06:43 PM
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::
Not unless we all are.
Thanks Today ... or Tomorrow ... or whoever you are right now!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I thought maybe I was losing it!

Why would the defense want this video released? Are they going towards insanity she has mental problems??? ::MonkeyTongue::
I think he was eluding to the fact that everything was not turned over in discovery this tape being an example. (police misconduct was probably the fact that this tape from the jail LE did not get turned over to the proper person so that it could be included in discovery)

It will back fire on the defense.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!
I hope it is not true also, but unfortunately I believe that picture will make its way to the internet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 09:08:36 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!
I hope it is not true also, but unfortunately I believe that picture will make its way to the internet.

I betcha Kronk took pictures of caylee.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 09:09:13 PM
 
Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
 
Caylee T-shirt 

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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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VIDEO: Missing toddler tshirts still being sold
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.
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Actually, after reading this, I think it's a safe bet the money will go to KFN. Dennis Milstead turns into a raving maniac when it comes to money. Remember how he threatened some other guy from another organization? Especially after KFN claimed to have  provided the A's with the T shirts etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:11:08 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

I neeed to know her source of info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 09:12:04 PM


I can't believe  George and Sin-dy saying your the Boss and she charges back I am no longer in charge!!! WOW. ::MonkeyConfused::  Everything was taken away from her- Her life taken away- What a POS...What about Caylee ?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Shows how Casey can make both of them Fall apart. Do you notice that George actually Stutters ...after that Comment via Casey I am not in Charge ... and you see Cindy with her face as though it has been set upon a George Foreman Grill ...after Casey get's thru her RANT ....  She is the Boss the Diabolical Boss even behind bars ... With her Behind Bars she is stronger than she has ever been. She has herself in Jail and is playing Martyr with her Parents.

If you listen carefully she says to her Parents - YOU had your chance to get me out. YOU put me are keeping me here  in all words .... and they Sit and Sit and crack up ..on the other side of the screen.

NO Caylee ... Caylee is Not even within this conversation - Because Its All About Casey



I felt sorry for George and Sin-dy in the beginning but after they realize Caylee was murder by that POS they went in to cover up mode that did it for me... ::MonkeyTongue::
Thats the thing that EATS all of Us - Casey claims VICTIM throughout - and Never Once Never Once ... Ever has ever said One Breath of Care or Loss or showed emotion at all for Caylee ...and We all Know it ..
And then George and Cindy have taken this on as if it were their last Chance to gain Fortune and Identity~ Mid way turn.
You will never see the Face such as Dolce posted of Adji's Grandmother's photo~ on Cindy, George, or on MOM Casey
I am praying for Him ~ Adji
 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:12:31 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!
I saw that.  Nothing against the FOX bloggers because I was one for a long time (it took me forever and a day to get into the cage!) and there are a lot of great people there ... but also a lot of trolls and inciters (is that a word?) ... I can't imagine that Baez has his site up yet ... so if there really are pics someone must have hacked into Dr. G ... and that would be really really bad for them (the hacker)!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:13:38 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

I neeed to know her source of info.

I'm not sure but it sounded like the lady (not even sure who she was) just threw it out there.  It seemed pretty random to me when she said it.  She looked real proud of herself too for having thrown it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on January 16, 2009, 09:14:00 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!

I read ur post but I highly doubt there would be a  pic yet, so i didnt say it. lol Yeah its just a cry for att3ntion from a blogger that has been ignored one too many times!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Pebbles on January 16, 2009, 09:15:22 PM
 
Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
 
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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.
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Actually, after reading this, I think it's a safe bet the money will go to KFN. Dennis Milstead turns into a raving maniac when it comes to money. Remember how he threatened some other guy from another organization? Especially after KFN claimed to have  provided the A's with the T shirts etc.
You're probably right about this. They would never give the money to a legitimate group that searched. TES should be getting the money but the A's will never do that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Dolce on January 16, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
CASEY ANTHONY: I am upset now. The media is going to have a freaking field day with this. I wasn't even supposed to take this.

GEORGE ANTHONY, CASEY’S FATHER: Let-

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second dad. I have let everybody talk. They are not releasing it? I'll keep saying whatever I have to about the police so they don't let it go.

Can someone let me-

CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY’S MOTHER: Casey, hold on, sweetheart. Settle down.

CASEY ANTHONY: Nobody is letting me speak. You want me to talk then give me three seconds to say something. I am not in control over any of this, because I do not know what the hell is going on. I do not know what is going on.
My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. You don't understand. Everybody wants me to have answers. I do not have any answers because I do not know what is going on.

I have no one to talk to. It's the only person I can talk to right now, because I cannot even say anything to you guys besides telling you that I love you.
I want Caylee. Things like that, and that's even being put on the air, which it should be. It is everything else, everything that I am not saying.


That is why I have not been calling, why I have not been taking calls, because I am trying to make sure that I am not going to give anybody else anything else to throw against me. But even with me giving them nothing, they are still doing it. So how am I --

CINDY ANTHONY: You will be fine once Caylee is found.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I understand that. Do you understand my position on this? You guys expect me to have 1,000 answers, and I have been nothing.

I have been here a month, out of contact with everybody except you guys on a rare occasion that I get to see you, and my attorney. Do you understand? What am I supposed to learn from that? What am I supposed to learn, the first week and a half?

Yes, I tried to help you guys backtrack. Again, that is all that I could do is backtrack. I can't backtrack on anything. "BACKTRACK?  Bad choice of a word...
A month I have been removed from the situation. You guys are not understanding my side on this, and I am sorry.

CINDY ANTHONY: I understand.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, you don't, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can't.

The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. YA you lied! I am trying. I was trying. There is nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home, and even then, I do not know what I can do from that point. But I can least do something other than sit on my butt on day and read or look up stuff for my case, because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus- And what about Caylee????

A bunch of "me" and "I" but only 1 Caylee in ALL of this..... bit of emotion for the first time from Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 09:16:43 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: numbersgirl on January 16, 2009, 09:17:39 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed - but I wonder who claimed KC and Caylee the last couple of years as far as taxes.    Did KC claim herself?  She had no income.    Did C&G claim her and Caylee?   Would love to see their IRS statements for 2006 and 2007.   Would tell us if C&G knew she was working or not.

I know some monkey asked about what KC will do this year - as far as filing.   But, I wonder what has happened in 06-07.

Casey was 22 and not a full time student or disabled.  How could G&C claim her on their taxes?  And I believe they would have had to have custody of Caylee in order to take her as a dependent.

I could be wrong, I often am.....  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually that makes sense!    Thanks!    ::MonkeyCool::

I am way behind but here goes anyway!  I suspect that KC was claiming Caylee and claiming as head of the household. Then even if she did not have income she would get money back. Strange but true!  The other option is that she did not file any taxes since there is no requirement to file if you do not owe taxes.

There would be no reason for KC to file any type of tax return if she had no income.  In order to qualify for Earned Income Credit (where low wage earners actually get back more than is withheld) she would have to have been employed.  Under certain circumstances, the Ants could claim KC and Caylee because they lived in the Ant's home and were fully supported by the Ants, KC did not have income and Caylee could not be claimed as a dependent by anyone else (ie. father paying child support).  For these reasons, I believe George and CinCin had to have known whether or not KC was employed. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 16, 2009, 09:18:34 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::



That's nuts.  Rattlesnakes seek out warm, living prey.

And there are not rattlesnakes big enough to attenpt to consume an almost 3 y/o human.  To me this is indicative of how thinly the defenses angles are--well if they are the ones who floated this particular trial balloon (no pun in tended).  I tuned her out when I heard that absurd notion.  Oh wait, there must have been a local variation of the diamond back rattlesnake (hopefully on the endgangered list for its habitat is Ants neighborhood).  It must have  developed teeth to gnaw on a human toddler, for a normal rattler couldn't do it.  They aren't freakin' anacondas.  An absurd notion beyond compare.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:20:54 PM
Who does this lady talk to that she has this info about a snake?  She needs to be careful what she puts out there.
Also that chloroform could be found in her bones.  While I hope that is true, I thought we had heard that it doesn't have a long
"shelf" life...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 09:21:30 PM
Hi monkeys... I posted a couple pages back..there is someone on foxblog claiming they seen a pic of Caylee's skull on the net, I do not believe it and hope it is nt true,but either way,it is sick!!

Searching - sorry I lost internet connection for a while, just got it back.  I really doubt there is a photo.  You would think if there is one it would show up in the GLOBE or Enquirer first and not for FREE on the net.  You know a photo like that, as horrible as it is, would bring money from the Media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:22:47 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::



That's nuts.  Rattlesnakes seek out warm, living prey.

And there are not rattlesnakes big enough to attenpt to consume an almost 3 y/o human.  To me this is indicative of how thinly the defenses angles are--well if they are the ones who floated this particular trial balloon (no pun in tended).  I tuned her out when I heard that absurd notion.  Oh wait, there must have been a local variation of the diamond back rattlesnake (hopefully on the endgangered list for its habitat is Ants neighborhood).  It must have  developed teeth to gnaw on a human toddler, for a normal rattler couldn't do it.  They aren't freakin' anacondas.  An absurd notion beyond compare.


Zani the rattler struck again.  As soon as Baez's experts get the snakes prints back from the lab and match them to the duct tape - case CLOSED.  OOOH wait - no fingers on that snake!  Poop. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 09:24:19 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 09:25:05 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.

IIRC, shortly after the remains were found, with talk of the skull rolling out, there was picture floating around of what the skull of a 3-year-old child would look like. It wasn't Caylee's of course. Could this be making the rounds again?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:25:58 PM
Who does this lady talk to that she has this info about a snake?  She needs to be careful what she puts out there.
Also that chloroform could be found in her bones.  While I hope that is true, I thought we had heard that it doesn't have a long
"shelf" life...
I also thought I heard that when the body breaks down it produces something along the lines of chloroform and no one would be able to tell if it was chloroform used prior to death or if it was a byproduct of decomp.  I think they need to check out their "professionals" before they let them blather on and on ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:26:32 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.

IIRC, shortly after the remains were found, with talk of the skull rolling out, there was picture floating around of what the skull of a 3-year-old child would look like. It wasn't Caylee's of course. Could this be making the rounds again?

I know it's easy to pull up the deceased Lindbergh baby.  It is sad too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 09:26:57 PM
Hmmmm interesting.  I wonder if every grandma who is raising a grandchild even though the child's parents are alive is unable to count the child as a dependent.  It seems the person who supports the child monetarily should be able to claim the exemption, as long as nobody else claimed the child. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 09:27:30 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.

I believe you have a point there. Maybe the snake at one of the small animals that fed upon the cadaver, and died as a result of what it's prey had consumed. Ugh!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:27:47 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::



That's nuts.  Rattlesnakes seek out warm, living prey.

And there are not rattlesnakes big enough to attenpt to consume an almost 3 y/o human.  To me this is indicative of how thinly the defenses angles are--well if they are the ones who floated this particular trial balloon (no pun in tended).  I tuned her out when I heard that absurd notion.  Oh wait, there must have been a local variation of the diamond back rattlesnake (hopefully on the endgangered list for its habitat is Ants neighborhood).  It must have  developed teeth to gnaw on a human toddler, for a normal rattler couldn't do it.  They aren't freakin' anacondas.  An absurd notion beyond compare.


Zani the rattler struck again.  As soon as Baez's experts get the snakes prints back from the lab and match them to the duct tape - case CLOSED.  OOOH wait - no fingers on that snake!  Poop. 
CM!  You are too funny!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 09:29:20 PM
You know, if the cops had listened to Kiomarie, they would have found the body soon after talking to her.  She said that general area was somewhere that Casey might put the body.  I think they went to the little clearing where kids often met and ruled it out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 09:31:39 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.



             I m right there with you Klaas....BS,  why say anything or put it on the internet, when they could make thousands off from it....makes no sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Hudsunn on January 16, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
Pardon me if this has already been posted.  But many of you may be familiar with Ann Rule, the woman who wrote SMALL SACRIFICES, the story of murderous mom Diane Downs, as well as THE STRANGER BESIDE ME about Ted Bundy and many other bestsellers about true crime.  On her blog, she responds to questions about the Anthony case.  If you would like to read it, here is the URL.

http://www.annrules.com/journal.asp


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.
So maybe this is like, examine the snake to see what it atem and see what that animal ate....  Blah blah. 
However, how was it not decomposed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 09:42:20 PM
Pardon me if this has already been posted.  But many of you may be familiar with Ann Rule, the woman who wrote SMALL SACRIFICES, the story of murderous mom Diane Downs, as well as THE STRANGER BESIDE ME about Ted Bundy and many other bestsellers about true crime.  On her blog, she responds to questions about the Anthony case.  If you would like to read it, here is the URL.

http://www.annrules.com/journal.asp
Thank You Hudsunn, I love Ann Rule and have read all of her books!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 09:44:15 PM
All I can say is that if Casey were my child and I was having to listen to that bullcrap b!tch fest she was spittin out at me....no amount of plated glass would have stopped me from smackin the hell out of her. 
Cindy's granddaughter was gone, missing, missed her birthday...your daughter is laughing at you at first glance for crying over missing her, and now is threatening to hang up and leave from talking to you??  She should be so lucky that someone wants to speak with her and cares enough to give a crap about not being able to see her daily.
I smell more than fish today...I smell the whole damn sewer when Casey's mouth opens.

Dolce, I am so glad to see what you wrote.  I feel the same way.  How in the world could Cindy and George take that abuse from their daughter?  I would have told her "Fine, I'm leaving too." and hung up the phone and walked out.  After all, they were accomplishing nothing in the way of finding Caylee and it was obvious that Casey was so absorbed with herself that she wasn't going to  cooperate.  I think they should have left her to stew in her own juice for once in her life.  If they had done that, it might have shocked Casey into at least being civil on the next visit. I would never have considered talking to my parents like that.  I loved them. That is I think a concept which is foreign to Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: theboyzmom on January 16, 2009, 09:45:46 PM
Hmmmm interesting.  I wonder if every grandma who is raising a grandchild even though the child's parents are alive is unable to count the child as a dependent.  It seems the person who supports the child monetarily should be able to claim the exemption, as long as nobody else claimed the child. 

I don't think you can without some sort of legal doc.  I know my DH could not claim his stepson despite the fact he lived with us and we provided 100% of his support.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 09:46:44 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 09:47:20 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.
So maybe this is like, examine the snake to see what it atem and see what that animal ate....  Blah blah. 
However, how was it not decomposed?
I have never and I mean never heard of a rattlesnake eating a human before in my life! This is starting to get a little crazy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: rmcalo on January 16, 2009, 09:47:54 PM
I believe that the mystery "young man" (as George calls him) who came over to the Anthonys' house for Caylee's birthday because "he was lonely" was probably Caylee's real father.

Now, is there any way to find out who came over to the Anthonys' house that day? Was there a surveillance camera on the house at that time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.



This TRULY makes me sick.  Sick.  This is absolutely atrotious and I feel as if I want to beat someone up for this crime.  HOW CAN ANYONE DO THAT TO A POOR GRIEVING FAMILY!  As if they haven't been through enough.  No family should have to ben put through seeing their child hurt in that way and then to have it poubliscized in such a heinous way.
I am going to go vomit now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)



That is beyond words.  It always seems so wrong when death scene photos with the bodies are shown in pictures in books or tv.  This is just disturbing.  Who would want their loved ones in those moments displayed like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)



Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 09:51:50 PM
Well in the video Casey does say she knows nothing about anything, but her show of temper is not at all helpful.

And her preoccupation with herself, i.e. nobody comforts her, she's a victim, she's tired, she's this, she's that, is not attractive and indicates a complete disregard for her daughter's wellbeing.  Her behaviour is completely inappropriate and indicates to me that she has no interest in anything other than herself, and certainly not for her daughter's predicament.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 09:51:59 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 09:52:17 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 
The sad thing about this is, and this is something Ive heard just recently but have no way to prove it , but its not hard to beleive with the way the Anthony's have been acting,  but Ive heard that  the Anthony's  just might in the near future try to sell everything in their house that belonged to Caylee, and they have a lot of stuff, her clothes, her toys, plates that she ate off from her cups that she drank out of, shoes, alot,    I hope its not true, that would be the lowest of the lows , even for the Anthony's..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:53:34 PM

Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.

Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 
The sad thing about this is, and this is something Ive heard just recently but have no way to prove it , but its not hard to beleive with the way the Anthony's have been acting,  but Ive heard that  the Anthony's  just might in the near future try to sell everything in their house that belonged to Caylee, and they have a lot of stuff, her clothes, her toys, plates that she ate off from her cups that she drank out of, shoes, alot,    I hope its not true, that would be the lowest of the lows , even for the Anthony's..
And the only thing lower than that ... would be the people who buy them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
I just tucked my Granddaughter into bed - the whole time Im thinking - how in the world could anyone hurt a small child like Caylee????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:54:36 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 
The sad thing about this is, and this is something Ive heard just recently but have no way to prove it , but its not hard to beleive with the way the Anthony's have been acting,  but Ive heard that  the Anthony's  just might in the near future try to sell everything in their house that belonged to Caylee, and they have a lot of stuff, her clothes, her toys, plates that she ate off from her cups that she drank out of, shoes, alot,    I hope its not true, that would be the lowest of the lows , even for the Anthony's..

WHAT THE HE!! IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 09:56:16 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

Behind, catching up, sorry if this was already posted:

George discussed in his FBI interview how he discovered a resume Casey had typed for herself, listing her current employment as "Nanny."

He asked her about it, pointing out that it was false, asking her why on earth she included that on her resume.

IIRC she responded that she was considering becoming a nanny, so she went ahead and added it to her resume in advance.  Bizarre answer, left George scratching his head.

IMO, she typed it b/c she did consider herself Caylee's nanny....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 09:56:34 PM

Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.

Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.

Was probably photos taken by a passing motorist or bystander.  Police wouldn't even know it was "getting out".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 09:57:07 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Some people feel that way - take a break - go see a friend - have a good meal- then come back to us when you feel better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
I just tucked my Granddaughter into bed - the whole time Im thinking - how in the world could anyone hurt a small child like Caylee????

Always, I think that all the time when looking at my son. It breaks my heart to know some children don't grow up with love, affection and kindness.   It is truly unimaginable to me how anyone, let alone a parent, can do some of the things that are done to children.

It is also VERY disturbing how many chances parents get with children after documented cases of abuse by that parent(s).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 09:59:48 PM
Guys? I'm trying to study the front page (Terrific job, Blink!!!), and I have a question that is probably just me missing a detail. I didn't know that Casey didn't have a valid driver's license on May 24th. Did you all know that?

Could someone please fill me in on why she didn't? TIA!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:00:02 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)


[/quote  I am very familiar with this, it happened a few blocks from my house, how horrific for the family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14wt3yh.jpg)

Take me to Target ............

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
Pardon me if this has already been posted.  But many of you may be familiar with Ann Rule, the woman who wrote SMALL SACRIFICES, the story of murderous mom Diane Downs, as well as THE STRANGER BESIDE ME about Ted Bundy and many other bestsellers about true crime.  On her blog, she responds to questions about the Anthony case.  If you would like to read it, here is the URL.

http://www.annrules.com/journal.asp
Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
Greta is in Orange County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:04:12 PM
Does anyone have any insight into why CA mentions Lake County and if that has anything to do with this??????????????  Casey has quite a reaction to it.

I think Mt. Dora is located in Lake County.  Where Cindy's parents live?

I think she was reacting to the Cindy asking her if there was "anything" in Lake County (that Casey should tell her).
(http://i34.tinypic.com/be7z2u.jpg)
Murt lives in Lake County

OMG, ROFLMAO, thanks for the much needed laugh....

Also I believe Clermont, which is the town where Frank McKeever & his dad live/d?
(ICBW)  Frank McKeever is the car-parts scammer and stand up comedian who shows up in Casey's cell phone records in July... around the time she was mentioning to Will W. and someone else (can't remember) that she needed to get a car.

(still reading...)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:04:19 PM
Greta is tiny - like a little leprechaun.  I hope no snakes get her out there in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 10:04:22 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 
The sad thing about this is, and this is something Ive heard just recently but have no way to prove it , but its not hard to beleive with the way the Anthony's have been acting,  but Ive heard that  the Anthony's  just might in the near future try to sell everything in their house that belonged to Caylee, and they have a lot of stuff, her clothes, her toys, plates that she ate off from her cups that she drank out of, shoes, alot,    I hope its not true, that would be the lowest of the lows , even for the Anthony's..
::MonkeyEek:: Even for them this would be the lowest thing they could do, how disgusting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:06:06 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok.  I probably just am over reacting.  Yeah.  I need some wine.  Last night my Leroy got me a bottle.  I haven't seen her since she left. 

Deep breath.  Think of puppies and kitties.  My kids.  Ahhhhhh.....  Feeling better now.

The thing is, the people who do this stuff like: buy Caylee memroabilia, take sicko pictures and sell them, buy them, hurt kids, take them while they are playing.  They are all around us.  We walk by them in the mall, we see them at the grocery.  They could be our neighbors.  They prey on our kids and families.  IT is just too much sometimes to think about!  This world is so bad!

It makes me want to do something so drastically good that it will in some way make things a little bit better.  I don't know.  I am probably not making sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:09:50 PM
I myself am pretty impressed with how calm and collected and in control of her emotions Casey has been.  I mean her child being kidnapped, being jailed, being accused of murder - nah - that didn't frustrate her but George, George saying she has control and is like a CEO - COME ON, that is too much.  Over the line.


Oh Jose.  I think people have a real good idea of who his client is.  Way more than he realizes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??
I couldn't tell by the post ... but sounded like that.  I posted right after and asked if it was forever or just a break and didn't get a response.  Around / or a little before noonish EST I think.  I was sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:11:10 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:13:21 PM
Jose says - So this girl can have her proper burial.

How about this child, this child NAMED Caylee.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok.  I probably just am over reacting.  Yeah.  I need some wine.  Last night my Leroy got me a bottle.  I haven't seen her since she left. 

Deep breath.  Think of puppies and kitties.  My kids.  Ahhhhhh.....  Feeling better now.

The thing is, the people who do this stuff like: buy Caylee memroabilia, take sicko pictures and sell them, buy them, hurt kids, take them while they are playing.  They are all around us.  We walk by them in the mall, we see them at the grocery.  They could be our neighbors.  They prey on our kids and families.  IT is just too much sometimes to think about!  This world is so bad!

It makes me want to do something so drastically good that it will in some way make things a little bit better.  I don't know.  I am probably not making sense.
You make perfect sense perri - and good for you!  It kind of makes me want to curl up into a ball in some neutral place ... no no no ... no Lazzaro's apartment! ... I was thinking more of Switzerland!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Okay - did I at least make you smile?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:13:43 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??
I couldn't tell by the post ... but sounded like that.  I posted right after and asked if it was forever or just a break and didn't get a response.  Around / or a little before noonish EST I think.  I was sad.
I think Leroy was blamed for a post that someone else made, while Leroy only refered to it.  I was sad too.  Now I feel like I could have said something to stick up for her....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.

I believe you have a point there. Maybe the snake at one of the small animals that fed upon the cadaver, and died as a result of what it's prey had consumed. Ugh!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

snakes dont eat anything thats already dead. if it ate a small animal that was still alive why wouldnt the amount of poison have killed the much lighter small animal than a larger heavier snake?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:14:50 PM
I think I'm all alone - monkey rants to myself.

H E L L O

E
L
L
O

echos and silence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:16:12 PM
Cheeky -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  You aren't alone, I think everyone is watching Greta.

Greta just said something about investigators going to the Anthony home TODAY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:16:48 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:16:57 PM
Jose says - So this girl can have her proper burial.

How about this child, this child NAMED Caylee.


Well at least he learned that in law school ... defense attorneys are supposed to "de-personalize" the victim.  IMO - little hard to do to a two year old that the entire world has fallen in love with!  But you go ahead and try Jose!  And we will go ahead and pray that your client gets the DP or life in prison!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:17:02 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok.  I probably just am over reacting.  Yeah.  I need some wine.  Last night my Leroy got me a bottle.  I haven't seen her since she left. 

Deep breath.  Think of puppies and kitties.  My kids.  Ahhhhhh.....  Feeling better now.

The thing is, the people who do this stuff like: buy Caylee memroabilia, take sicko pictures and sell them, buy them, hurt kids, take them while they are playing.  They are all around us.  We walk by them in the mall, we see them at the grocery.  They could be our neighbors.  They prey on our kids and families.  IT is just too much sometimes to think about!  This world is so bad!

It makes me want to do something so drastically good that it will in some way make things a little bit better.  I don't know.  I am probably not making sense.
You make perfect sense perri - and good for you!  It kind of makes me want to curl up into a ball in some neutral place ... no no no ... no Lazzaro's apartment! ... I was thinking more of Switzerland!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Okay - did I at least make you smile?!

Yes, you did.  Thank you.  I think I jsut need to go to bed and forget this stuff for a bit.  I will be back though.  I can't stay away.  Even if I try.  Goodnight all.  Thanks for all the light you each bring to the world.  Keep shining.  Its dark out there and every little candle helps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:17:25 PM
There is someone on foxblog claiming a pic of Caylees skull is on the net.. I call BS since she seems to be the ONLY one whom has found this photo..think it is a sick attention ploy.. JMO

Could this be a misinformed reference to the crime scene photo where many people thought they could see the image of Caylee's skull among the brush and the shadows in the pic?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 10:17:33 PM
O/T I know...

But I just wanted to say I'm sorry that I haven't responded to everyone welcoming me. I'm trying to watch the Cavs game and sleuth at the same time....and it's tough, lemme tell you!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 16, 2009, 10:17:34 PM
Cheeky -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  You aren't alone, I think everyone is watching Greta.

Greta just said something about investigators going to the Anthony home TODAY
Wonder what that is all about? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::
Hi Sea...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:19:04 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??
I couldn't tell by the post ... but sounded like that.  I posted right after and asked if it was forever or just a break and didn't get a response.  Around / or a little before noonish EST I think.  I was sad.
I think Leroy was blamed for a post that someone else made, while Leroy only refered to it.  I was sad too.  Now I feel like I could have said something to stick up for her....
Me too.  But I'm still kind of new and didn't want the Big Red Button from Muffy (who I think got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning) ... okay ... Big Red Button is coming ... I feel it ... Nice to know you perri!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Garden Gnome on January 16, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)



I remember seeing a program about this story, may have been Dateline or 20/20.  The parents were just totally devastated over this.  To be betrayed by LE......  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:19:20 PM
Cheeky -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  You aren't alone, I think everyone is watching Greta.

Greta just said something about investigators going to the Anthony home TODAY

I'm sorry - I flipped my little monkey wig there for a minute.

Baez makes me mad.  Casey wouldn't waste her whole hour watching news.  No way Jose.  She only watches important things like catoons and such.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: perriwinkle on January 16, 2009, 10:20:03 PM
Thanks Newfie.  Nice to know you too!  Your little dog is so cute.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 10:20:36 PM
Klaas, can you keep us posted.? I don't have cable. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:20:48 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok.  I probably just am over reacting.  Yeah.  I need some wine.  Last night my Leroy got me a bottle.  I haven't seen her since she left. 

Deep breath.  Think of puppies and kitties.  My kids.  Ahhhhhh.....  Feeling better now.

The thing is, the people who do this stuff like: buy Caylee memroabilia, take sicko pictures and sell them, buy them, hurt kids, take them while they are playing.  They are all around us.  We walk by them in the mall, we see them at the grocery.  They could be our neighbors.  They prey on our kids and families.  IT is just too much sometimes to think about!  This world is so bad!

It makes me want to do something so drastically good that it will in some way make things a little bit better.  I don't know.  I am probably not making sense.
You make perfect sense perri - and good for you!  It kind of makes me want to curl up into a ball in some neutral place ... no no no ... no Lazzaro's apartment! ... I was thinking more of Switzerland!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Okay - did I at least make you smile?!

Yes, you did.  Thank you.  I think I jsut need to go to bed and forget this stuff for a bit.  I will be back though.  I can't stay away.  Even if I try.  Goodnight all.  Thanks for all the light you each bring to the world.  Keep shining.  Its dark out there and every little candle helps.
Night perriwinkle ... sweetest of dreams.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:22:59 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??

Hi A-1...just wanted to say hi quick since I know you're in and out quick being an a foreign country and all...I don't think Leroy will be gone too long, she just needed a break..
I hope not anyway..Boo will be heart broken if she doesn't come back..being so close for all this time  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
I think it became so obvious that Casey had a lifetime of manipulating her family when she said she wasn't in charge, or in control of everything by saying "No, not any more", meaning not since she was behind bars. However, she then goes on prove just how much she still is in control. She totally controls her conversations.
I also think her ego is so great that she convinced Baez that this was the video which would sway any jury in her favor. "They would absolutely sympathize with me. I cried, and they can see how my parents didn't care about me at all, but wanted to talk about the stuff THEY thought was important. I explained exactly why I was a victim and how unfair the media has been to me. Jose, there won't be a dry eye in the court room....Blah, Blah, Blah"
I didn't get at all what JVM meant when she said Baez wanted this video released because it would prove police misconduct?  (or something like that)  I didn't watch the video ... have only seen what is on NG & JVM - but I didn't see a police officer?  Am I missing something?    ::MonkeyConfused::

I wrestled with that one, too... what could his complaint with OCSO be that is contained in this vid... Well, all I came up with was that the timeline does show two instances of OCSO trying to get Casey to talk to them or her dad directly, privately -- without JBaez present.

This jail visit came after she had previously declined visits from Lee and Cindy and her parents... And it happened when JBaez was away in New York.  So maybe he sees it as a sneaky ploy on the part of LE, to coach George and Cindy and send them in to try to set up a private meeting (George said he could make it happen "within the hour") while JBaez was far away and powerless to stop her from talking to someone.

Maybe that could be it?  Don't know, though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 10:24:36 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.

I believe you have a point there. Maybe the snake at one of the small animals that fed upon the cadaver, and died as a result of what it's prey had consumed. Ugh!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

snakes dont eat anything thats already dead. if it ate a small animal that was still alive why wouldnt the amount of poison have killed the much lighter small animal than a larger heavier snake?


 :2thinky: :idea: Maybe the snake swallowed the critter before it had time to die. And the snake who stuck around trying to digest this thing, then died!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: always 1 on January 16, 2009, 10:25:13 PM
I think I have spent enough time here today.  Well, for several days.  I am kinda with leroy.  I think I need a break.  This is just too much.  It is making me sick and I don't think a little vicks on my feet will help with this kinda pain.  Wow. 
Stiff drink perri!  Possibly two stiff drinks and Vicks on the feet.  Did leroy ever respond after the farewell?  I loved leroy!   ::MonkeyWaa::
I didnt see that.  Did Leroy leave for good??

Hi A-1...just wanted to say hi quick since I know you're in and out quick being an a foreign country and all...I don't think Leroy will be gone too long, she just needed a break..
I hope not anyway..Boo will be heart broken if she doesn't come back..being so close for all this time  ::MonkeyRoll::
Foreign country - heh heh = foreign computer for sure!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:25:16 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 10:27:03 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.

Thanks Klaas....Not that I think he would tell the truth anyway...hehe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
Hmmm ... wonder what Lee has been up to?  Or maybe yet another G & C spat?  Inquiring minds want to know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Cappuccino on January 16, 2009, 10:27:14 PM
not related to the murder investigation...hmmmm    Cindy upset...what else is new!   She's upset because she cant stand hearing the truth   

Why is Greta taking this angle - its obvious all these people are conspiring to get Casey off

"I have to assume there were clothes in that bag because they were trying to match it with what was found in that bag - and yet we hear from Baez "she is not what she is being portrayed:   O REALLY!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:28:06 PM

Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.

Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.

Was probably photos taken by a passing motorist or bystander.  Police wouldn't even know it was "getting out".
You could be right but I saw some of the photos too myself and I can't imagine anyone getting near .. close enough other than LE to have such photos .. without being Bodily Slammed by LE get away from the scene ....... jmo.

The only reason why I brought up Nikki is because even at the expense of the Parents Souls being ripped out after their daughters death these photo's went wild over the net ...
and I know as well as *Monkey's know* there are people sitting in corners plunking away trying to find or break into the Sealed server to get at the Crime Scene photo's and of Caylee's sigh remains ... They should Never Ever have released that Info to the public that her photos were going to be within availability upon a server ... because just as We Monkey's have been striving for Caylee's Justice ...there are people out there who are willing to and will attempt to break in and gain access to those photo's. They are probably cracking away as we are right here ... now.

And it could even be a Profitable ending for such sleaze bags as Baez and D.Casey - they could give bits of code to a Fool - that would make no sense to anyone but a code breaker and just say - YOU never spoke to me ... and they Baez/Casey would find compensation after the fact ..when the photo's break loose ... and never be trailed to it. Because all they did was offer just enough but not enough ...

I do not Trust not One person that is involved within any of this - before, during and or after Trial



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:28:06 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
OMG!  I KNOW WHAT IT IS!  CA finally got around to reporting that hacking incident!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 10:28:27 PM
I saw a stuffed monkey on the memorial........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 10:28:29 PM
Greta is in Orange County.

thanks- putting it on now... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:29:01 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.

Coming up, Greta is going to go to the tattoo parlor where Casey got her tattoo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 10:30:02 PM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.

I believe you have a point there. Maybe the snake at one of the small animals that fed upon the cadaver, and died as a result of what it's prey had consumed. Ugh!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

snakes dont eat anything thats already dead. if it ate a small animal that was still alive why wouldnt the amount of poison have killed the much lighter small animal than a larger heavier snake?


 :2thinky: :idea: Maybe the snake swallowed the critter before it had time to die. And the snake who stuck around trying to digest this thing, then died!


ok this is too disgusting. ill just say for various reasons i think this isabsolutely impossible. sorry for even pursuing it everyone. *shudders*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:30:27 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 10:30:53 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.

Could there have been another 911 call? Domestic dispute? Disturbing the peace? Lee v. GA? GA v. CA? Enquiring monkeys need to know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:31:13 PM
The Anthony's attorney said that he had worked it out w/ the sheriff's department that they would contact him and he would notify the Anthony's regarding the remains.

I'm not sure if I understood that correctly.  Did anyone understand whether he was saying that was something that had been worked out prior to Caylee being discovered, in case, she was discovered.  Or was he saying that they contacted him b/c they were in flight and he wanted to tell them.

If that was something worked out prior to even finding the body, that is interesting.  It sounds like they really were not having contact w/ LE if that was the case.  Exactly how long had Conway been representing them before Caylee was found?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 10:32:27 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.

Oh. You're probably right. Although I liked my theory better. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.

Oh. You're probably right. Although I liked my theory better. ::MonkeyWaa::
I liked your theory better too Scatty!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:34:32 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:34:37 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
Hmmm ... wonder what Lee has been up to?  Or maybe yet another G & C spat?  Inquiring minds want to know!

That's what I was thinking too..shirley surely there will be a police report one of our smart monkeys can find for us  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.

Oh. You're probably right. Although I liked my theory better. ::MonkeyWaa::
Well  Maybe LE will help, and then as soon as its over give them all a ride to their new home, the same on Casey lives in right now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:36:40 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

I feel nekkid! Especially since it's sooo cold here in Ohio!!! :) lol  I'll see if I can get fixed up with something tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:36:48 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
Hmmm ... wonder what Lee has been up to?  Or maybe yet another G & C spat?  Inquiring minds want to know!

That's what I was thinking too..shirley surely there will be a police report one of our smart monkeys can find for us  ::MonkeyRoll::
Hi SS you kitty lover you!  I missed your entrance somehow ... so thought I'd give you a shout out!  Puppy hugs!  (trying to help you out with that whole PKA thingy!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 10:36:57 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Busted!!!!!!Snapped!!!!!!!!The life of woman in Prison!!!!Cops!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 10:37:14 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
Hmmm ... wonder what Lee has been up to?  Or maybe yet another G & C spat?  Inquiring minds want to know!

Stop stealing my thoughts before I get a chance to type them out!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:37:22 PM
Boo, just making sure you're ok. I've posted to you a few times over the last couple days, and you never replied or acknowledged. Am I just being a paranoid monkey? Just want to be sure I didn't do or say something to upset you? If so, I'm very sorry!! I just don't know what it could be. Hope I'm just totally wrong! In that case, I'm sorry to bother you with this. I know you haven't been feeling well, and I hope you are doing better.

OMG Quiet! I would never ignore you!! I'm just either getting ready for work in the morning or too tired at night or I didn't see the post. You are way too cute to ignore!! Believe me, you will know when I'm irritated!! I don't hold back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

Well it couldn't be anything negative b/c Casey said if people don't have anything nice to say they should shut up. This wouldn't have been a problem before but I'm betting Casey isn't allowed to have a lot of tape in order to tape mouths shut anymore.

So, I'm thinking she watches only happy positive smart people stuff.  What could that be?  Oprah?  Dr. Phil?  I don't know - I'll I watch these days is cartoons.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Cappuccino on January 16, 2009, 10:38:00 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.

Oh. You're probably right. Although I liked my theory better. ::MonkeyWaa::
Well  Maybe LE will help, and then as soon as its over give them all a ride to their new home, the same on Casey lives in right now!

Why would they ask that if the child is going to be cremated & its a private service - not to mention they are not having it any time too soon according to Baez   Hes too busy holding it as a carrot in their faces - now the excuse is waiting for forensic reports from the State  WOW   JUST WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Love it Deenie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 10:38:28 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:39:55 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Busted!!!!!!Snapped!!!!!!!!The life of woman in Prison!!!!Cops!!!!!!!
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 10:40:33 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

TruTv...so she can get some pointers on what NOT to do the next time she commits murder, cuz of course she thinks she's getting away with it!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:40:59 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::



That's nuts.  Rattlesnakes seek out warm, living prey.

And there are not rattlesnakes big enough to attenpt to consume an almost 3 y/o human.  To me this is indicative of how thinly the defenses angles are--well if they are the ones who floated this particular trial balloon (no pun in tended).  I tuned her out when I heard that absurd notion.  Oh wait, there must have been a local variation of the diamond back rattlesnake (hopefully on the endgangered list for its habitat is Ants neighborhood).  It must have  developed teeth to gnaw on a human toddler, for a normal rattler couldn't do it.  They aren't freakin' anacondas.  An absurd notion beyond compare.


Only if Caylee's body was already um not intact (ugh) would a rattler be able to do so.  Rattlesnakes eat only small pray, like mice, lizards, etc.  But I thought they typically only strike at something that moves.

I will point out, though it is OT, that a rattlesnake whose head has been severed from its body can STILL STRIKE and BITE!  It actually happened to a man I knew who had to be rushed to the ER for antivenom and almost lost his arm, and to a friend's dog who nearly died.  People decapitate a rattlesnake and think they have removed the threat, only to be bitten in what seems like a scene from a campy horror movie. This is not an urban legend.  It really can happen, beware.

"When you behead a snake, what you're actually doing is removing the body from the head. The head will continue to process visual input and react to stimuli (i.e., a rattlesnake head will still bite and envenomate) for an hour or more.

The only 'humane' way to kill a snake, that doesn't involve anaesthetics, is to crush its head quickly."

--Editor Ememritus, Southwestern Herpetologists Society. (from Snopes.com)


really sorry for the OT... public service, don't ya know   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:41:36 PM
Honestly - they are probably asking for LE help with the private and public funeral/memorial services.  Funny how LE is good when they need the help ... and bad when they are investigating the murder of their grandchild.

Oh. You're probably right. Although I liked my theory better. ::MonkeyWaa::

I like you'rs better too Scatty...Newfie's is so boring... I want to see hancuffs..hammers and hoses in an evidence bag..tow that mustang to the impound lot...
any other suggestions?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:42:12 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.
Hmmm ... wonder what Lee has been up to?  Or maybe yet another G & C spat?  Inquiring minds want to know!

Stop stealing my thoughts before I get a chance to type them out!!  ::MonkeyEek::
Do Do Do Do ... do do do do ... You've now entered the twilight zone Scatty ...
Okay ... sorry ... great minds think alike ... how's that?!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 10:42:49 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 10:42:50 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

I neeed to know her source of info.

It was strange.  She threw that out and then she wasn't seen again.  I have never heard of a diamondback rattlesnake eating a human being.  I know they feed on small rodents, etc and I once saw a black snake catchn and eat a small squirrel, but a human being?  I don't think so.  Anyway, Caylee's flesh decomposed so long ago that a snake recently killed, even if it had eaten a portion of a human, would have digested it long ago.  This was, IMO, just silly but I'll do some looking around and see if a rattlesnake willl eat a human.

I'm not sure but it sounded like the lady (not even sure who she was) just threw it out there.  It seemed pretty random to me when she said it.  She looked real proud of herself too for having thrown it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:43:18 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

I think it is insulting. He seems to think that people should believe what he says about Casey over their own opinions that they've formed from watching and hearing Casey herself.  The way she interacts and treats members of her own family is very telling.  Much more so, in my opnion, than her attorney telling me who HE thinks she is.  I really could not care less what type of person he feels she is.  What exactly makes him think anyones opinion of her would be higher because he approves of her.  Really, even if she wasn't his client and what he said was genuine.  Who is he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:43:31 PM
Boo, just making sure you're ok. I've posted to you a few times over the last couple days, and you never replied or acknowledged. Am I just being a paranoid monkey? Just want to be sure I didn't do or say something to upset you? If so, I'm very sorry!! I just don't know what it could be. Hope I'm just totally wrong! In that case, I'm sorry to bother you with this. I know you haven't been feeling well, and I hope you are doing better.

OMG Quiet! I would never ignore you!! I'm just either getting ready for work in the morning or too tired at night or I didn't see the post. You are way too cute to ignore!! Believe me, you will know when I'm irritated!! I don't hold back.

This is True when Boo let's lose ... U better Duck  :smt024 :smt007.... and she doesn't need a Hammer ..
.........Cindy Style ... :smt075


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 10:44:10 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

I neeed to know her source of info.

It was strange.  She threw that out and then she wasn't seen again.  I have never heard of a diamondback rattlesnake eating a human being.  I know they feed on small rodents, etc and I once saw a black snake catchn and eat a small squirrel, but a human being?  I don't think so.  Anyway, Caylee's flesh decomposed so long ago that a snake recently killed, even if it had eaten a portion of a human, would have digested it long ago.  This was, IMO, just silly but I'll do some looking around and see if a rattlesnake willl eat a human.

I'm not sure but it sounded like the lady (not even sure who she was) just threw it out there.  It seemed pretty random to me when she said it.  She looked real proud of herself too for having thrown it out.

I'm so sorry for posting in your post.  I don't usually do a thing like that but nobody's perfect.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:44:37 PM
I believe that the mystery "young man" (as George calls him) who came over to the Anthonys' house for Caylee's birthday because "he was lonely" was probably Caylee's real father.

Now, is there any way to find out who came over to the Anthonys' house that day? Was there a surveillance camera on the house at that time?

Caylee's b-day was August 9... Wouldn't it be wild if the "young man" turned out to be none other than Roy Kronk!!   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:44:44 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?


I think it is insulting. He seems to think that people should believe what he says about Casey over their own opinions that they've formed from watching and hearing Casey herself.  The way she interacts and treats members of her own family is very telling.  Much more so, in my opnion, than her attorney telling me who HE thinks she is.  I really could not care less what type of person he feels she is.  What exactly makes him think anyones opinion of her would be higher because he approves of her.  Really, even if she wasn't his client and what he said was genuine.  Who is he?
Casey's Boy Toy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:45:37 PM
Morning Monkey friends!

Still battling my cough, my keyboard is still sticking, and it's -11 here this morning (and that's not wind chill baby!). But don't worry, it'll warm up to 8 by 3pm!! Wooo hooo, heat wave!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I've got to head off to work this morning, think I'll leave my dog home just so he can stay warm all day.  ::MonkeyWink::


Hi Boo. Have a good one. Did you not hear of the VICKS treatment? They say to rub it on the bottom of your feet and put socks on. Cough Be Gone!!! My mom used to eat it sometimes. YUCK

Yeah, I did the Vicks on the feet. It really did work!! I just have a tiny tin, so I'm going out and buying a jar today. I really do have to find my gloves somewhere around here!! But my Jeep does warm up pretty quick. Man I love my Jeep!! Esp in this weather, nothing can stop me!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Jeep owner here too.  Don't you love the way Jeep owners wave to each other?  I also love my Jeep.

Birds of a feather flock together!! We have 3 jeeps. The newer 07', The ole work horse 99',and the plow Jeep.85'

They keep on going and I have NEVER been stranded with any of our Jeeps. Many times I just go around the others sliding away, and off I go! I also have pulled out a bunch of people in bad storms. They have big rallies up-state in New york and it is amazing what they can do.
This hugs for you Scarlett! Waves  :smt039 to all Jeep owners. I have a 98 Wrangler.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: LuvLeBron on January 16, 2009, 10:45:41 PM
Okay...it's time for the new monkey to call it a night.

And I mean it when I say it's an honor to be a part of the Monkey crew!

Thanks for being so welcoming, and goodnight monkeys...I've wanted to say that for such a long time!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 16, 2009, 10:45:45 PM
Ha! it works!   got me one of those mini laptops ,,, acer aspire one... now i can kick back and post here without the heavy laptop on me!  yeeehaw!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:47:03 PM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

I neeed to know her source of info.

It was strange.  She threw that out and then she wasn't seen again.  I have never heard of a diamondback rattlesnake eating a human being.  I know they feed on small rodents, etc and I once saw a black snake catchn and eat a small squirrel, but a human being?  I don't think so.  Anyway, Caylee's flesh decomposed so long ago that a snake recently killed, even if it had eaten a portion of a human, would have digested it long ago.  This was, IMO, just silly but I'll do some looking around and see if a rattlesnake willl eat a human.

I'm not sure but it sounded like the lady (not even sure who she was) just threw it out there.  It seemed pretty random to me when she said it.  She looked real proud of herself too for having thrown it out.

I'm so sorry for posting in your post.  I don't usually do a thing like that but nobody's perfect.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Babybear - if you're talking to me please don't be sorry.  I mess up my quotes all the time.  I've never EVER had a monkey bite me for it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
Okay...it's time for the new monkey to call it a night.

And I mean it when I say it's an honor to be a part of the Monkey crew!

Thanks for being so welcoming, and goodnight monkeys...I've wanted to say that for such a long time!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Night, Luv!!! Sleep Well and we'll see you tomorrow!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 10:47:10 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)


[/quote  I am very familiar with this, it happened a few blocks from my house, how horrific for the family.

That's horrible.  She was a beautiful girl and it's so sad that this happened to her and that photos were sold. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:47:34 PM
Ha! it works!   got me one of those mini laptops ,,, acer aspire one... now i can kick back and post here without the heavy laptop on me!  yeeehaw!

YAY ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:48:16 PM

Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.

Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.

Was probably photos taken by a passing motorist or bystander.  Police wouldn't even know it was "getting out".

Photos were taken by CHP officer investigating the accident, they were official photos for the report.  However, this officer or perhaps another one later emailed the digital images to an employee in dispatch, and the rest is history.  It went viral.  CHP personnel in question were reprimanded.  Pics were circulated all over the net with captions warning against drunk driving, though she was not intoxicated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:48:30 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?


I think it is insulting. He seems to think that people should believe what he says about Casey over their own opinions that they've formed from watching and hearing Casey herself.  The way she interacts and treats members of her own family is very telling.  Much more so, in my opnion, than her attorney telling me who HE thinks she is.  I really could not care less what type of person he feels she is.  What exactly makes him think anyones opinion of her would be higher because he approves of her.  Really, even if she wasn't his client and what he said was genuine.  Who is he?
Casey's Boy Toy

So simply stated and yet so, so gross.  Ew.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: NewfieMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:48:49 PM
SS ... My theories are boring today because I didn't get my SS coffee this morning!  Poor Newfie!

Off to bed ... balmy 5 ... might get by with 1 pair of socks tonight!

Night all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 16, 2009, 10:49:29 PM
Welcome, Luvlebron!

Good evening everyone!  Just trying to get caught up.

I watched yesterday's video again, and I have to say that it continues to make me ill.  It is so frightening to watch, and so fascinating at the same time.  She is so cold, so manipulative, and only seems to show emotion when she realizes that her parents are not worrying about her, but Caylee.  That video speaks more about her true nature than any of the other videos we have seen so far, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:51:19 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

I feel nekkid! Especially since it's sooo cold here in Ohio!!! :) lol  I'll see if I can get fixed up with something tomorrow.

yeah...ya know, don't go crazy..a hat or an ankle bracelet or somthin'

what's cold for you ? it warmed up a little today..was -28 this morning but were at -10 now so I can take my sweater off..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MnkeyBznes on January 16, 2009, 10:51:38 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

TruTv...so she can get some pointers on what NOT to do the next time she commits murder, cuz of course she thinks she's getting away with it!!!

Bounty Hunters  starring LP and RD!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:51:48 PM
I believe that the mystery "young man" (as George calls him) who came over to the Anthonys' house for Caylee's birthday because "he was lonely" was probably Caylee's real father.

Now, is there any way to find out who came over to the Anthonys' house that day? Was there a surveillance camera on the house at that time?

Caylee's b-day was August 9... Wouldn't it be wild if the "young man" turned out to be none other than Roy Kronk!!   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused::

That made me laugh and I'm not sure why.  I could just see him with a lollipop and one of those spinny hats on.  That and his pet rattler named Zani.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
Night all tired Monks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 16, 2009, 10:53:02 PM
IF there is a photo I imagine whoever has it would try to sell it first.  I think it's BS.
Klaas I just had this discussion with BooMonkey about a week ago. I believe this is BS too the Fox Blog ....

There was a Young Girl who Died in a Heinous car accident - she came from a very wealthy family which caused media frenzy due to her Dad's profession/wealth.
You may even know of her case. Her name is/was Nikki Catsouras. Well the LE/Highway Patrol/dispatch sold/leaked her photos from the Scene for money/? ... and they were Sued by the Parents to recoup and try to remove Nikki's photos which was almost impossible ...still is ... .

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nikki-catsouras-chp-1965415-donnell-family
this is the article about the lawsuit

**** Please Monkeys do NOT go and search on photo's with this Girl's name because there are still many out there floating from the accident scene and Trust me NO One wants to see them.

The Parents never thought IN a Millions Years that their Daughters accident Photos would surface on the Internet ... Never ever thought possible due to they were in the Safe hands of LE ... and Yet they did. All for those who enjoy as what NG was speaking of the other night Murderbilia etc....

This is Nikki - A beautiful Girl who's Life Ended way too Young.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/nikkibaby.jpg)


[/quote  I am very familiar with this, it happened a few blocks from my house, how horrific for the family.

That's horrible.  She was a beautiful girl and it's so sad that this happened to her and that photos were sold. 

Wow!  I've just read this story, and I'm horrified.  The officer or whomever it was that leaked her photos needs to be in jail.  She was a beautiful girl, and deserved more than that.  I feel so sorry for her family. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:53:48 PM
SS ... My theories are boring today because I didn't get my SS coffee this morning!  Poor Newfie!

Off to bed ... balmy 5 ... might get by with 1 pair of socks tonight!

Night all!

Night Newfie (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif) (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:53:49 PM

Actually, this is a true story and the accident happened in Orange County, Calif., not far from where I live.  I have seen the photos. 

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is a photo of Caylee, I just think with the publicity of this case any photo of Caylee's remains would worth money to someone (Globe or NE).

In the case of Nikki Catsouras, it was photos of a horrible accident but when first shown they may not have even known the persons name.

Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.

Was probably photos taken by a passing motorist or bystander.  Police wouldn't even know it was "getting out".

Photos were taken by CHP officer investigating the accident, they were official photos for the report.  However, this officer or perhaps another one later emailed the digital images to an employee in dispatch, and the rest is history.  It went viral.  CHP personnel in question were reprimanded.  Pics were circulated all over the net with captions warning against drunk driving, though she was not intoxicated.
Disturbing ... YES  Nothing to do with this girl at all - but her photo's being so OMG ungodly ... I saw One of the photo's and its ingrained into my memory and All I do  is think of my Daughter who is of the same age ... and it rips my guts out that NO one could think first that she was someone's daughter, someones best friend, someone REAL .. and not just for SALE or promotion
and what a travesty beyond words - All for Media SHOCK value  :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 10:54:47 PM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Maybe the detectives wanted to buy some tasteless t-shirts and rubber bracelets before they're sold out!?? (oh, this is awful!  sorry...)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Babybear on January 16, 2009, 10:55:09 PM
Despite the fact the snakes are poisonous, Hoffman said they're are not looking to hurt humans because they instinctively know they can't eat a human. A rattlesnake can only build up a certain amount of venom in a day, and it would rather use that venom to kill its prey. If it bites a human, it cannot eat that day, Hoffman said. Bites occur most frequently, explained Hoffman, when a person accidentally steps on or startles the rattlesnake, which then reacts in fear.

www.sonomanews.com/articles/2007/06/14/news/doc466dedbe098f90545/3053.txt


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 10:55:25 PM
Sorry now the page says temporarily unavailable, but they are selling Caylee T shirts on their myspace. ::MonkeyConfused::

These people have no shame.  I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a booth at their local flea market on weekends. 
The sad thing about this is, and this is something Ive heard just recently but have no way to prove it , but its not hard to beleive with the way the Anthony's have been acting,  but Ive heard that  the Anthony's  just might in the near future try to sell everything in their house that belonged to Caylee, and they have a lot of stuff, her clothes, her toys, plates that she ate off from her cups that she drank out of, shoes, alot,    I hope its not true, that would be the lowest of the lows , even for the Anthony's..

That would be pretty rank, however, these people continue to offend and shock, imo.  The natural thing would be to cherish every single thing of Caylee's forever.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 10:56:11 PM
Here's that article about the t-shirts:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8266932&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)

Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 10:56:19 PM
Okay...it's time for the new monkey to call it a night.

And I mean it when I say it's an honor to be a part of the Monkey crew!

Thanks for being so welcoming, and goodnight monkeys...I've wanted to say that for such a long time!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Good Night Luv...glad you could join us  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:56:20 PM
We all Agree that Nikki's photo's were let out - WRONGLY

Can YOU Imagine if Caylee's Photos were to ever surface ? She is Internationally Watched and is Everyone's Baby ... Can you Imagine if her Photo's ever are leaked ...

OMG



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 10:56:37 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!
Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 16, 2009, 10:57:58 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

TruTv...so she can get some pointers on what NOT to do the next time she commits murder, cuz of course she thinks she's getting away with it!!!

Bounty Hunters  starring LP and RD!!
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 16, 2009, 10:58:36 PM
Here's that article about the t-shirts:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8266932&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)

Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale. 


This is just beyond sick.  What is wrong with these people?! :2brickwall: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 16, 2009, 10:58:41 PM
I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 
3babiesMom ~ thank u
With what that article says ... Do you believe in the name of psychology that the words stated factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries remove the sexual abuse but add Mental applies to the Ant Family .. applies to the childhood as siblings Casey and Lee. In my thoughts, I think they were very controlled and isolated from society by Cindy... When Casey's talks in this new found video - that she wants her supportive family and friends outside of her Parents .... She has always been a loner it seems and has little family outside of Dad, Mom and Lee.
Poor Boundaries I think can mean - Your not allowed to go out of MY Boundaries that I give You - Cindy to Casey. That it came to the Point that Casey never mentally grew up.
That she was to remain a Kid and not have cognitive decision making skills for her age. No Nanners. I mean with Life in the real world. Getting a Job, paying Bills, Supporting yourself being honest, working etc... being accountable, responsible without being told to

But what I cant understand is why she lies all the time. She acts like a little kid. Is not accountable, is not responsible and then when she proves It on a higher level  by stealing, lying, cheating etc ... Cindy just let her continue that way and has never said STOP or I am going to prosecute you or anything ..nothing. That is hard for the majority of us to understand 99.9%.

I understand that Casey *possibly is a Pathological liar .. more than probable is.
Environment, Mental Abuse, etc ... would be Key to a person acting out - Not specifically of why  Casey is Casey but I do believe that Cindy's influence on Casey has a " Part" in how Casey is today. I am NO WAY Defending Casey because I know people personally that have lived horrible,sad,awful childhoods and are not abusive nor are evil as adults today. They have good jobs, Homes, Families and are loving people.
The Ants in the family unit though screams dysfunctional.


Hi Deenie,
Yes, I think you have a good take on how this family has functioned.  I think that there are so many layers to what attributed to the dysfunction in the A family as well as KC.  I would love to know what her psychologicals reveal about her. It was interesting that when the lawyer that fought against the DP for her stated that she probaly suffered from a mental illness, such as bipolar disorder.  One can be mentally ill and have a personality disorder.    I think that KC has learned to lie because it gets her whats she wants.  I would theorize she was exposed to one or both parents and their untruths.  Sin Sin also was seeing a psychologist.  I would like to know if she had been diagnosed.  She told LE there is no history of psych problems but that may not be something she would want to reveal.   Remember, George has a history of problems that he had to hide from SinSin and the family. (If I recall, he lost a lot of money in an internet scam.)  Sin Sin also explains KC's lies with totally illogical excuses or reasons.  As we watch this family, it totally shocks us.  However, the A family can not understand why we do not embrace these explanations.  As much as it seemed the A's were not isolated and initially appearing to be a typical family, the A's probaly had little, if any, close friendships.  While they probaly had "friends", they probaly lacked depth.  I hope this does not sound like i am rambling..my son is cutting a tooth, so i am holding him as he cries and i am typing. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 10:59:42 PM
Here's that article about the t-shirts:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8266932&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)

Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale. 


Klaas I thought that Ms BART washed her Hands of the ANTS awhile ago ... why is she partaking and or doing this Now ? Makes no sense

 :smt104



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Scatty on January 16, 2009, 10:59:47 PM
SS ... My theories are boring today because I didn't get my SS coffee this morning!  Poor Newfie!

Off to bed ... balmy 5 ... might get by with 1 pair of socks tonight!

Night all!
Night Newfie. BTW I love the soulful expression of your avi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:00:15 PM
We all Agree that Nikki's photo's were let out - WRONGLY

Can YOU Imagine if Caylee's Photos were to ever surface ? She is Internationally Watched and is Everyone's Baby ... Can you Imagine if her Photo's ever are leaked ...

OMG



I hate to say this Deenie...but I think you can count on it I'm afraid  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 16, 2009, 11:00:40 PM
We all Agree that Nikki's photo's were let out - WRONGLY

Can YOU Imagine if Caylee's Photos were to ever surface ? She is Internationally Watched and is Everyone's Baby ... Can you Imagine if her Photo's ever are leaked ...

OMG



Sadly Deenie, I have to say that I would not be surprised.  Look at all of the losers surrounding this case.  They are all so desperate for fame and/or a quick buck, that this wouldn't be out of character for them.  There has been no respect shown for Caylee from most of these idiots surrounding this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:01:14 PM
We all Agree that Nikki's photo's were let out - WRONGLY

Can YOU Imagine if Caylee's Photos were to ever surface ? She is Internationally Watched and is Everyone's Baby ... Can you Imagine if her Photo's ever are leaked ...

OMG



It would be horrific


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:04:51 PM
Why would the police let that get out?  And the media.  That is awful.  I am so sad I want to go be with my kids.  This is horrible.

Was probably photos taken by a passing motorist or bystander.  Police wouldn't even know it was "getting out".

Photos were taken by CHP officer investigating the accident, they were official photos for the report.  However, this officer or perhaps another one later emailed the digital images to an employee in dispatch, and the rest is history.  It went viral.  CHP personnel in question were reprimanded.  Pics were circulated all over the net with captions warning against drunk driving, though she was not intoxicated.
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OOps---Editing myself:  Remembered after reading the linked story, she had a trace amount of some minor recreational drug in her system, but was not "under the influence" of anything when it happened, IIRC, and alcohol was not a factor.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 11:05:35 PM
 
Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
 
Caylee T-shirt 

Related Content

 




ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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VIDEO: Missing toddler tshirts still being sold
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 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.
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ummm, i think the A's or someone they know reads scared monkeys!!! you know what i mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 16, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
I hate to ask this but I'm so far behind after not being on her for a couple days. I was spending time with my granddaughter.

Has there been any BOMBSHELLS?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:08:27 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:09:01 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 
3babiesMom ~ thank u
With what that article says ... Do you believe in the name of psychology that the words stated factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries remove the sexual abuse but add Mental applies to the Ant Family .. applies to the childhood as siblings Casey and Lee. In my thoughts, I think they were very controlled and isolated from society by Cindy... When Casey's talks in this new found video - that she wants her supportive family and friends outside of her Parents .... She has always been a loner it seems and has little family outside of Dad, Mom and Lee.
Poor Boundaries I think can mean - Your not allowed to go out of MY Boundaries that I give You - Cindy to Casey. That it came to the Point that Casey never mentally grew up.
That she was to remain a Kid and not have cognitive decision making skills for her age. No Nanners. I mean with Life in the real world. Getting a Job, paying Bills, Supporting yourself being honest, working etc... being accountable, responsible without being told to

But what I cant understand is why she lies all the time. She acts like a little kid. Is not accountable, is not responsible and then when she proves It on a higher level  by stealing, lying, cheating etc ... Cindy just let her continue that way and has never said STOP or I am going to prosecute you or anything ..nothing. That is hard for the majority of us to understand 99.9%.

I understand that Casey *possibly is a Pathological liar .. more than probable is.
Environment, Mental Abuse, etc ... would be Key to a person acting out - Not specifically of why  Casey is Casey but I do believe that Cindy's influence on Casey has a " Part" in how Casey is today. I am NO WAY Defending Casey because I know people personally that have lived horrible,sad,awful childhoods and are not abusive nor are evil as adults today. They have good jobs, Homes, Families and are loving people.
The Ants in the family unit though screams dysfunctional.


Hi Deenie,
Yes, I think you have a good take on how this family has functioned.  I think that there are so many layers to what attributed to the dysfunction in the A family as well as KC.  I would love to know what her psychologicals reveal about her. It was interesting that when the lawyer that fought against the DP for her stated that she probaly suffered from a mental illness, such as bipolar disorder.  One can be mentally ill and have a personality disorder.    I think that KC has learned to lie because it gets her whats she wants.  I would theorize she was exposed to one or both parents and their untruths.  Sin Sin also was seeing a psychologist.  I would like to know if she had been diagnosed.  She told LE there is no history of psych problems but that may not be something she would want to reveal.   Remember, George has a history of problems that he had to hide from SinSin and the family. (If I recall, he lost a lot of money in an internet scam.)  Sin Sin also explains KC's lies with totally illogical excuses or reasons.  As we watch this family, it totally shocks us.  However, the A family can not understand why we do not embrace these explanations.  As much as it seemed the A's were not isolated and initially appearing to be a typical family, the A's probaly had little, if any, close friendships.  While they probaly had "friends", they probaly lacked depth.  I hope this does not sound like i am rambling..my son is cutting a tooth, so i am holding him as he cries and i am typing. ::MonkeyWaa::
That makes Sense thank u for taking the time out - to answer

For Baby you know what works for new Teef besides meds - although I have heard Motrin is preferred when Teeth are involved not Tylenol  - I used to take those freezer pops and cut off the ends so they were not sharp ..and let my daughter gum them ... Koolaid makes the shorter versions ..nice and fat ...cooling and soothing

Or you can take a washcloth cut it small and soak it - squeeze it out - Freeze it  = Good Stuff ...for new Teef
Hugs Mamma


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 11:09:39 PM
Cheeky -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  You aren't alone, I think everyone is watching Greta.

Greta just said something about investigators going to the Anthony home TODAY
Wonder what that is all about? ::MonkeyEek::

Conway was careful to say it was "nothing regarding the murder investigation".  He's good with word parsing I've noticed.  Maybe it was regarding aiding & abetting ?;  Conway is easier to watch than Baez.  I often wonder when he will have enough and fire his clients.  Maybe he won't though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:11:09 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!
Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Anybody remember a story in one of the interviews with one of the friends, that they couldn't get into a certain club or bar b/c Casey didn't have a valid ID?  What was the date?  (Or am I just imagining this?)

And in preparation for the July 4 party at Will Waters' place, they couldn't buy alcohol in Casey's company, b/c she did not have a valid ID, remember?  I think this was from Amy's OCSO interviews, but may have been Will's... or both, can't recall.

BTW, CBB, thank you for the Ann Rule link.  Good stuff.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:11:16 PM
I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!!  ::MonkeyCool::
I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  ::MonkeyCool:: I will find U.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 11:12:19 PM
I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 
3babiesMom ~ thank u
With what that article says ... Do you believe in the name of psychology that the words stated factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries remove the sexual abuse but add Mental applies to the Ant Family .. applies to the childhood as siblings Casey and Lee. In my thoughts, I think they were very controlled and isolated from society by Cindy... When Casey's talks in this new found video - that she wants her supportive family and friends outside of her Parents .... She has always been a loner it seems and has little family outside of Dad, Mom and Lee.
Poor Boundaries I think can mean - Your not allowed to go out of MY Boundaries that I give You - Cindy to Casey. That it came to the Point that Casey never mentally grew up.
That she was to remain a Kid and not have cognitive decision making skills for her age. No Nanners. I mean with Life in the real world. Getting a Job, paying Bills, Supporting yourself being honest, working etc... being accountable, responsible without being told to

But what I cant understand is why she lies all the time. She acts like a little kid. Is not accountable, is not responsible and then when she proves It on a higher level  by stealing, lying, cheating etc ... Cindy just let her continue that way and has never said STOP or I am going to prosecute you or anything ..nothing. That is hard for the majority of us to understand 99.9%.

I understand that Casey *possibly is a Pathological liar .. more than probable is.
Environment, Mental Abuse, etc ... would be Key to a person acting out - Not specifically of why  Casey is Casey but I do believe that Cindy's influence on Casey has a " Part" in how Casey is today. I am NO WAY Defending Casey because I know people personally that have lived horrible,sad,awful childhoods and are not abusive nor are evil as adults today. They have good jobs, Homes, Families and are loving people.
The Ants in the family unit though screams dysfunctional.


Hi Deenie,
Yes, I think you have a good take on how this family has functioned.  I think that there are so many layers to what attributed to the dysfunction in the A family as well as KC.  I would love to know what her psychologicals reveal about her. It was interesting that when the lawyer that fought against the DP for her stated that she probaly suffered from a mental illness, such as bipolar disorder.  One can be mentally ill and have a personality disorder.    I think that KC has learned to lie because it gets her whats she wants.  I would theorize she was exposed to one or both parents and their untruths.  Sin Sin also was seeing a psychologist.  I would like to know if she had been diagnosed.  She told LE there is no history of psych problems but that may not be something she would want to reveal.   Remember, George has a history of problems that he had to hide from SinSin and the family. (If I recall, he lost a lot of money in an internet scam.)  Sin Sin also explains KC's lies with totally illogical excuses or reasons.  As we watch this family, it totally shocks us.  However, the A family can not understand why we do not embrace these explanations.  As much as it seemed the A's were not isolated and initially appearing to be a typical family, the A's probaly had little, if any, close friendships.  While they probaly had "friends", they probaly lacked depth.  I hope this does not sound like i am rambling..my son is cutting a tooth, so i am holding him as he cries and i am typing. ::MonkeyWaa::
That makes Sense thank u for taking the time out - to answer

For Baby you know what works for new Teef besides meds - although I have heard Motrin is preferred when Teeth are involved not Tylenol  - I used to take those freezer pops and cut off the ends so they were not sharp ..and let my daughter gum them ... Koolaid makes the shorter versions ..nice and fat ...cooling and soothing

Or you can take a washcloth cut it small and soak it - squeeze it out - Freeze it  = Good Stuff ...for new Teef
Hugs Mamma

Thank you.  I will get some of those ice pops.  7 months old and 6 teeth!
monkey hugs to you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 16, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!
Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Thanks, Blink!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: 3babiesmommy on January 16, 2009, 11:13:37 PM
I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!!  ::MonkeyCool::
I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  ::MonkeyCool:: I will find U.

nite deenie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:16:50 PM
I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!!  ::MonkeyCool::
I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  ::MonkeyCool:: I will find U.

nite deenie.
Nite Hunny Bunny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

Creative Finger Painting & Learning to Decorate With Playdough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: pixiecat on January 16, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
Night everyone!  Hubby needs laptop.  See you tomorrow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 11:17:26 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY. ::MonkeyDance::

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 11:17:48 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel

I can think of a couple of shows.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Lost
The Biggest Loser
Eleventh Hour
Criminal Minds
Prison Break
Numbers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 16, 2009, 11:18:31 PM
Quote -Thank you.  I will get some of those ice pops.  7 months old and 6 teeth!
monkey hugs to you!

O/T Another good thing for teething is, Hylands All Natural Teething Tablets.  You can get them at Walmart, Babies R Us.  Not sure where else.  You put them under your babies tongue and it really helps.  They disolve instantly.  At leas they worked wonders for my granddaughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/zenaidacaseypc.jpg)


Remember this?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/4709whitepages.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 11:21:48 PM
Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/zenaidacaseypc.jpg)


Remember this?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/4709whitepages.jpg)

Interesting... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:22:48 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY. ::MonkeyDance::

wendi

Now that's just cruel... ::MonkeyNoNo:: Don't be cruel... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:23:55 PM
Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/zenaidacaseypc.jpg)


Remember this?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/4709whitepages.jpg)

Interesting... ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::   OMG....I think you have something there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 16, 2009, 11:24:42 PM
Night monkeys.

i found this and i liked it so i wanted to share:


Monkey Face
   
 
The traveler started to quicken his pace
as the sun was setting it began the race,
to find a place that was safe,
and otherwise…dry and small of space.

In jungle nights such as these
there wasn’t much left besides the trees.
That glowered eerily above his head
if he hesitated he’d soon be dead.

Grabbing the vine he held it tight
as the stalking Jaguar came into sight.
Pulling upward hand over hand—
what a relief he did not make a stand.

The stalker below paced and growled,
but found no limb or place that was sound,
to follow its prey to the treetops above.
The traveler landed and startled a dove.

After awhile he began to prepare
his bed for the night— a twisted affair.
Then laid down his head in that tiniest space,
while the bright shinny moon comforted
…his small monkey face.

Maynard Hartman 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 16, 2009, 11:26:07 PM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!
Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Anybody remember a story in one of the interviews with one of the friends, that they couldn't get into a certain club or bar b/c Casey didn't have a valid ID?  What was the date?  (Or am I just imagining this?)

And in preparation for the July 4 party at Will Waters' place, they couldn't buy alcohol in Casey's company, b/c she did not have a valid ID, remember?  I think this was from Amy's OCSO interviews, but may have been Will's... or both, can't recall.

BTW, CBB, thank you for the Ann Rule link.  Good stuff.



Great catch Desdomona, your correct.. That info was part of why I started looking into the issue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 11:26:46 PM
Here's that article about the t-shirts:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=8266932&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1008&isP16=true)

Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale. 


Is that Kathi B's station? I'm not familiar with who is on what station down there, but I did send her the info (along with a zillion other monkeys, I bet) when we saw it. Also sent it to Nancy G....but I'm sure Nance won't do anything about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 11:27:10 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

Maybe because they really think their own wallets are a "non profit organization"  ?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
Geraldo on Reilly- said personaly she is guilty and a beech... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:27:47 PM
No Rose Colored Glasses .......... Are you on this Page of the Cage???

I remember and I found a post that I posted right after Caylee was found - and You responded to my post.

No Rose do you remember watching the Video I posted from a Fort Myers News channel -
Was a Boy named Charles Kelly
He went and took video of the area of where Caylee was found and stated that it was a Hang out for him and his friends .. that he knew the area very well
He mentioned that he personally knew the water was knee deep in that area .. prior to them finding Caylee ...

I just need a witness because I went back to my post and found the link - and that Video is NO longer ... Poof its Gone  - it was a amateur video taken by this Boy while they LE were working the area when Caylee was found and his own bits and pieces of him walking around the area itself..........

Do you Remember No Rose ?
------------------------------------
My Post copied and pasted - from Dec 14th on SM

Good Afternoon Monkeys

I found this video on NBC affiliate ~ Fort Myers Florida channel

ORLANDO: A neighbor close to Casey Anthony's home released video from the crime scene investigation Friday.

It's pretty interesting. Its a Neighbor boy, 19 yrs old, who took video of the surrounding areas of where they found the body. He shares with the reporter that He himself knew the water content of the woods ...and that He himself could not have walked in when the water was so high months ago. Seems that he is very familiar with the wooded area.

He took the video from less than 100 yard away. He attests though about the conditions of the wooded area this summer the water would be waist to knee high.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=24109&z=3

Charles Kelly ~ did a Good Job with the Video

Cindy and Georgie can't argue with Mother Nature.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:29:01 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel

I can think of a couple of shows.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Lost
The Biggest Loser
Eleventh Hour
Criminal Minds
Prison Break
Numbers

I was gonna say Prison Girls but ya'll probably never seen that movie  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tevye on January 16, 2009, 11:30:44 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

For the ultimate sweepstakes irony, in Alaska recently, a foundation for sexual abuse survivors had a lottery. Guess who won? A registered sex offender! He offered to donate some of his winnings to the foundation!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:30:47 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

Maybe because they really think their own wallets are a "non profit organization"  ?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Well the next time my wallet is almost empty I think I will call it that and see how fast it fills up. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 16, 2009, 11:32:41 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 11:32:58 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY. ::MonkeyDance::

wendi

Elvis rules;  I have now developed a mad crush on Orlando's David Maus of David Maus Volkswagon commercials....he has the greatest 'Elvis curl' to his upper left lip...he is so adorable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:33:02 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

For the ultimate sweepstakes irony, in Alaska recently, a foundation for sexual abuse survivors had a lottery. Guess who won? A registered sex offender! He offered to donate some of his winnings to the foundation!
Well thats just great...........could anything more unusual happen..... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:33:44 PM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:34:22 PM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

Maybe because they really think their own wallets are a "non profit organization"  ?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Even those Orgs that are historically known as Non Profits Orgs have their own way of Profiting and I am not talking about Volunteers and or the People who work tirelessly within - its the BIG staff ..that wind up compensating more so than ...who they are striving to provide for .. are 2nd shelf
Its all about Exemption and monies to be hidden ~ and Taken by those who control what is incoming and Out going ... Hmmph. Its true though.

Sad and True - I worked for years for a very well Known Non Profit Org and I was appalled by too many things and money going ..into and onto too many pockets ... rather than for the cause itself. ** For Boo no this was not within Animals but People. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 11:34:32 PM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel

I can think of a couple of shows.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Lost
The Biggest Loser
Eleventh Hour
Criminal Minds
Prison Break
Numbers

I was gonna say Prison Girls but ya'll probably never seen that movie  ::MonkeyRoll::

No.... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:34:48 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)

Too small, I can't read it.  Looks like info on 4709 Hopespring.  Did you see what I posted on the last page?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:35:05 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
UHHHH  I think I just realized I might need glasses........ ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 11:35:32 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY. ::MonkeyDance::

wendi

Now that's just cruel... ::MonkeyNoNo:: Don't be cruel... ::MonkeyCool::

ummm, last chance, gotta go to bed. too much stress today! closing on house, don't have another house yet & GRACELAND! YOU CAN ONLY SEE A HOUSE SOOOO MANY TIMES, & THE PINK CADILLAC, AND THE LISA MARIA (you know the plane) LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF ANYONE WANTS A TRICKET OR PICTURE FROM GRACELAND, JUST LET ME KNOW! GOTTA FINISH PACKING & GETTING RID OF SOME THE JUNK! ::MonkeyTongue::

wendi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:36:49 PM
Geraldo on Reilly- said personaly she is guilty and a beech... ::MonkeyTongue::

so now it's unanimous  ::MonkeyDance:: but then again...what's he gonna say on his own show Sunday  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:36:54 PM
On the Zenaida/Nicole G. discussion:

[1]  Zenaida Kotala Gonzalez
writes for the UCF NewsRoom, published by UCF.
Her "beat" includes the University's counseling center, where Nicole Ganguzza was interning and treating clients while working on her advanced degree there.

http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us (http://news.ucf.edu/UCFnews/index?page=about_us)
Scroll down for her picture.

If you go to the home page of the newsletter, you'll see a sidebar box featuring a professor with a hyphenated last name, one of the names being "Fernandez."
[2]  Casey told people she was planning to attend UCF... lying as usual, of course.  Did her phone ping there?  And she sure did seem to be fixated on Jay Blanchard Park for some reason.

[3]  I have tried unsuccessfully to locate the source for something I remember reading months ago:  That Cindy sought counseling at the UCF center.  Could it have been from Shirley or Rick Plesea's emails, or a OCSO interview of Shirley?  Can't remember.  Anyone else remember this reference?

[4]  The Zenaida Almodovar listing in whitepages shows it was added in September.  When you do a people search for her name, it locates an older man (father age) named Victor.  There are two  phone numbers listed for her, one with 407 area code, and one 321, with the same phone number.  If you do a reverse search on the phone numbers, one hits at the Orlando City Hall and the other at or near the Winter Park Chamber of Commerce.  (This seems so odd that maybe it isn't.  Maybe certain unlisted number are automatically assigned to a city hall in that area code?? Puzzling.)

[5]  And below is a copy/paste/repost of mine from the last thread, wanted to bring it forward in regard to the discussion about possible connections w/the Nicole Ganguzza murder.
center]--------------------------------------------[[/center]

The company listed as owned by Anthonys' neighbor, Fred Frank Robinson, Jr., called 'FranklinComputing Consulting' -- the company address is given as 4601 Eagle Feather Drive, right up the road from Lee.  I found it on qxiu.com.  It was listed there in September of '08.

(White Pages shows a couple named Juan and Nereida Sanchez living at that address, and their phone number isn't the same as the business listing.)

I did a reverse lookup for the phone number of the company, and it came up as Orange County Precint 330, 1865 Econlockatchee Trail in Orlando.

GoogleMapped that address and was blown away, cuz the little marker in GoogleMaps I THINK is marking almost the exact spot where Nicole Ganguzza's body was found on June 10 (or was it June 11?), near Jay Blanchard Park.

Sorry this is so long, just wanted to get it all out there.  I'm done reading, and will settle down now, and stop lobbing posts from the outfield!
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 16, 2009, 11:37:02 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
KCJackie  :sunny: ... sorry can't read it ... is a bit little ... and I have on my Monkey goggles



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 16, 2009, 11:37:30 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
I am interested, except I can't read it. And neither can my seeing eye Kat.
enlarge or 'splain Ms. KC lol  please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:37:54 PM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: You never say Hi to me.......what do I have to do to make you see me, start talking with my lip curled...........wear a diamond white jumpsuit,,,,,,,,,,dye my hair black..........swing my hips back and forth.............huh   what  tell me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 11:38:24 PM
does anyone know why the phrase 'help find caylee' is trademarked?  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/ (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 16, 2009, 11:38:49 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
UHHHH  I think I just realized I might need glasses........ ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have my glasses on and I still can't read it... ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:39:01 PM
Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyEek:: Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really.  ::MonkeyRoll::

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all  ::MonkeyWink::

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY. ::MonkeyDance::

wendi

Now that's just cruel... ::MonkeyNoNo:: Don't be cruel... ::MonkeyCool::

ummm, last chance, gotta go to bed. too much stress today! closing on house, don't have another house yet & GRACELAND! YOU CAN ONLY SEE A HOUSE SOOOO MANY TIMES, & THE PINK CADILLAC, AND THE LISA MARIA (you know the plane) LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF ANYONE WANTS A TRICKET OR PICTURE FROM GRACELAND, JUST LET ME KNOW! GOTTA FINISH PACKING & GETTING RID OF SOME THE JUNK! ::MonkeyTongue::

wendi

I knew you were gonna change once you became a dog..you use to be such a nice kitty  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
Oh, no "near Winter Park Chamber of Commerce" is wrong. 
It was actually a direct hit at the Winter Park City Hall.
(Sorry for the edit)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:40:02 PM
does anyone know why the phrase 'help find caylee' is trademarked?  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/ (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/)

Just because they say something is Trademarked doesn't mean it is.  Besides, can you really Trademark the name Caylee?  What if another Caylee goes missing?  They are FOS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
does anyone know why the phrase 'help find caylee' is trademarked?  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/ (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/)

Just because they say something is Trademarked doesn't mean it is.  Besides, can you really Trademark the name Caylee?  What if another Caylee goes missing?  They are FOS.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 11:42:02 PM
does anyone know why the phrase 'help find caylee' is trademarked?  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/ (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/)

Just because they say something is Trademarked doesn't mean it is.  Besides, can you really Trademark the name Caylee?  What if another Caylee goes missing?  They are FOS.

thank you klaas. thats what was confusing me. what an odd thing to add.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: wendiw8780 on January 16, 2009, 11:42:07 PM
No Rose Colored Glasses .......... Are you on this Page of the Cage???

I remember and I found a post that I posted right after Caylee was found - and You responded to my post.

No Rose do you remember watching the Video I posted from a Fort Myers News channel -
Was a Boy named Charles Kelly
He went and took video of the area of where Caylee was found and stated that it was a Hang out for him and his friends .. that he knew the area very well
He mentioned that he personally knew the water was knee deep in that area .. prior to them finding Caylee ...

I just need a witness because I went back to my post and found the link - and that Video is NO longer ... Poof its Gone  - it was a amateur video taken by this Boy while they LE were working the area when Caylee was found and his own bits and pieces of him walking around the area itself..........

Do you Remember No Rose ?
------------------------------------
My Post copied and pasted - from Dec 14th on SM

Good Afternoon Monkeys

I found this video on NBC affiliate ~ Fort Myers Florida channel

ORLANDO: A neighbor close to Casey Anthony's home released video from the crime scene investigation Friday.

It's pretty interesting. Its a Neighbor boy, 19 yrs old, who took video of the surrounding areas of where they found the body. He shares with the reporter that He himself knew the water content of the woods ...and that He himself could not have walked in when the water was so high months ago. Seems that he is very familiar with the wooded area.

He took the video from less than 100 yard away. He attests though about the conditions of the wooded area this summer the water would be waist to knee high.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=24109&z=3

Charles Kelly ~ did a Good Job with the Video

Cindy and Georgie can't argue with Mother Nature.


oh, believe me, yes they can (& probably will)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:42:41 PM
Sea Searcher - please try and take the off topic to the Musing thread.  Or if Elvis related to your Elvis thread in the Music forum.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:42:42 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)

4907 Hopespring Dr = Zenaida Hernandez Almodovar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 16, 2009, 11:43:30 PM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:44:28 PM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: You never say Hi to me.......what do I have to do to make you see me, start talking with my lip curled...........wear a diamond white jumpsuit,,,,,,,,,,dye my hair black..........swing my hips back and forth.............huh   what  tell me!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Hi HH..sorry I didn't see you...  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I'm kinda dopy tonight, probably should have gone to bed hours ago...

not sure about the lip thing...but swinging your hips back and forth in a diamond white jumpsuit might do it  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:44:52 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)

4907 Hopespring Dr = Zenaida Hernandez Almodovar

OK well I'm glad you can read that but I can't.  I'd like to know what address search has the middle name and I'd like to take a clear screen shot of it myself.  Anyone know what address or phone search it is?  I'd like to replicate it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 16, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)

4907 Hopespring Dr = Zenaida Hernandez Almodovar
well  gosh..........first we couldnt find a ZFG......now they are popping up all over hopespring drive..............something is hinky here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 16, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/zenaidacaseypc.jpg)


Remember this?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/4709whitepages.jpg)

Whatever she was doing, this is all so cold-bloodedly premeditated....either cooking up the faux nanny story to have a faux nanny or planning the unthinkable -the kidnapping faux nanny scenario script which happened only four days later.   

Whatever Baez thinks he can do, he cannot defend the one fact that Casey never reported Caylee missing.  That is simply indefensible.  An innocent mother would be beside themselves and run screaming down the street to the authorities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sea Searcher on January 16, 2009, 11:46:21 PM
Sea Searcher - please try and take the off topic to the Musing thread.  Or if Elvis related to your Elvis thread in the Music forum.  Thanks!

sry...going to bed now  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 16, 2009, 11:46:36 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 11:46:46 PM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::


hahaha! this one was nicely timed wasnt it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:50:51 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 16, 2009, 11:51:16 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)

4907 Hopespring Dr = Zenaida Hernandez Almodovar

OK well I'm glad you can read that but I can't.  I'd like to know what address search has the middle name and I'd like to take a clear screen shot of it myself.  Anyone know what address or phone search it is?  I'd like to replicate it.

Looks like an address search on PeopleFinders, based on color and features.
But I don't know how to do an address search there, just names.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 16, 2009, 11:51:27 PM
Baez requested that it be given to him as part of the discovery process.
Think he got what he expected ?
...
How are these ppl going to have a Public Memorial without it turning into a Public Brawl  if George, Cindy and Lee are there ? They would be better off to go into some sort of a witness protection program, change their names, get plastic surgery and leave for Aruba. Tomorrow. Sloots have a spare little apartment.
...
The talking doctors on Ng think Casey's emotional age is low low low. Maybe ten is my guess. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 11:52:41 PM
Hi Monkeys...Just my 2 cents worth on the KC ID. Didn't she leave her purse and ID in the car at Amscot?  Could the dates be after she left the car?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 11:54:57 PM
Sorry, I know the July 4th was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 16, 2009, 11:55:19 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 11:55:24 PM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: You never say Hi to me.......what do I have to do to make you see me, start talking with my lip curled...........wear a diamond white jumpsuit,,,,,,,,,,dye my hair black..........swing my hips back and forth.............huh   what  tell me!

Oh honey I love you dearly, I'm sorry . . . HI HIGHER HOPES!!!!  I've been battling a cold for the last two days and I'm not at my posting best. BTW your daughter gets her good looks from you (cause I remember you from when your avatar was your pic)

XOXOXOXOXOX

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:55:52 PM
Hi Monkeys...Just my 2 cents worth on the KC ID. Didn't she leave her purse and ID in the car at Amscot?  Could the dates be after she left the car?

What dates?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 16, 2009, 11:56:56 PM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 16, 2009, 11:57:13 PM
Hi Admiral SS!!!

Took me all day to figure out your post this morning when you said "ready, 1, 2, 3", you were talking about jazzercise!  Hope you are doing ok.  Still praying for you and your family and of course for ALL my hurting/sick monkey friends!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:57:27 PM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 11:57:57 PM
Hi Monkeys...Just my 2 cents worth on the KC ID. Didn't she leave her purse and ID in the car at Amscot?  Could the dates be after she left the car?

ya darla she did according to cindys interview with the le (i think..it could be fbi). i remember cause the interviewer said to cindy 'so shes been without any id since then' and cindy says 'well ya.. i guess.. i mean..<insert more babbling>.

the party was either july 4th or 5th and wills house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 16, 2009, 11:57:58 PM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?

I believe she signed over rights to Jose


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 16, 2009, 11:58:39 PM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?

I believe she signed over rights to Jose


 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::why??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 16, 2009, 11:59:11 PM
Hi Monkeys...Just my 2 cents worth on the KC ID. Didn't she leave her purse and ID in the car at Amscot?  Could the dates be after she left the car?

What dates?

The ones her friends stated about her not having an ID to get into the club and to buy booze.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:00:45 AM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?

I believe she signed over rights to Jose

OH, I remember earing that!  Why him and not her own family?  Does anyone know??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 12:01:22 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 17, 2009, 12:01:54 AM
I thought snakes were drawn to cadavers because of the small animals that often went for a dead body.  The snake would kind of lie in waiting.  This is all so gruesome.  And yet Casey apparently put her daughter there and did not think twice about it.

I believe you have a point there. Maybe the snake at one of the small animals that fed upon the cadaver, and died as a result of what it's prey had consumed. Ugh!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

snakes dont eat anything thats already dead. if it ate a small animal that was still alive why wouldnt the amount of poison have killed the much lighter small animal than a larger heavier snake?


 :2thinky: :idea: Maybe the snake swallowed the critter before it had time to die. And the snake who stuck around trying to digest this thing, then died!



This snake thing is an attempt to further muddy the waters.  Snakes such as the rattlesnake eat small, live prey which which they sense w/their heat seeking organs called pits (hence the designation "pit" vipers).  Their chow includes small rodents and birds.  I think its a stretch to wonder if snake caught a poisoned mouse that had fed on Caylee.  The time line doesn't fit either. They are terrestrial snakes and if Caylee was in the water, it wouldn't have been a food source.  Also, the degeneration of her remains was probably more a funtion of insects.  I doubt they'll find anything re. the snake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 17, 2009, 12:02:02 AM
Quote -Thank you.  I will get some of those ice pops.  7 months old and 6 teeth!
monkey hugs to you!

O/T Another good thing for teething is, Hylands All Natural Teething Tablets.  You can get them at Walmart, Babies R Us.  Not sure where else.  You put them under your babies tongue and it really helps.  They disolve instantly.  At leas they worked wonders for my granddaughter.

Orajel teething lotion is also great.  Works instantly.  Tube of liquid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 17, 2009, 12:04:15 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

So do I !;  This video also demonstrates how Bird Brain Flu can effect some parents.  It's truly hard to watch their molly-coddling of her.  It's unreal.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 17, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: You never say Hi to me.......what do I have to do to make you see me, start talking with my lip curled...........wear a diamond white jumpsuit,,,,,,,,,,dye my hair black..........swing my hips back and forth.............huh   what  tell me!

HA HA I had a red head moment you weren't even talking to me HH when I responded earlier!  Go figure!
Goes to corner, pouting.

You mean the world DOESN'T revole around me??

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 12:05:47 AM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?

I believe she signed over rights to Jose

OH, I remember earing that!  Why him and not her own family?  Does anyone know??

Likely because Jose told her he wanted control for autopsy's etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:07:08 AM
Hi Monkeys...Just my 2 cents worth on the KC ID. Didn't she leave her purse and ID in the car at Amscot?  Could the dates be after she left the car?

What dates?

The ones her friends stated about her not having an ID to get into the club and to buy booze.

it was either july 4th or 5th. its in wills interview with le.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:07:17 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::  Another infernal "clue?"  *sigh*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:08:05 AM
Muffybee, I saw that you were out with pneumonia.  I hope you are better!  I missed you!

Hi to all my monkey friends, old and new!

Karen

Hi Sparky !!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: You never say Hi to me.......what do I have to do to make you see me, start talking with my lip curled...........wear a diamond white jumpsuit,,,,,,,,,,dye my hair black..........swing my hips back and forth.............huh   what  tell me!

HA HA I had a red head moment you weren't even talking to me HH when I responded earlier!  Go figure!
Goes to corner, pouting.

You mean the world DOESN'T revole around me??

Karen
It doesnt matter, Im glad you spoke to me also, and Thanks for the compliment, Now get out of that corner!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:08:42 AM
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20ALMODOVAR&state=FL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr= (http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20ALMODOVAR&state=FL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:09:27 AM
and darla im very sorry...i was obviously having a brainfart when i answered you. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:10:18 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

So do I !;  This video also demonstrates how Bird Brain Flu can effect some parents.  It's truly hard to watch their molly-coddling of her.  It's unreal.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know!  It was sickening!  I wanted them to hang up and walk out!!

When she starts with "why is she crying?"  I couldn't believe they didn't get mad.  First of all, I was never allowed nor are my children allowed to refer to me as she!!  I am their mother not a she.

And more importantly, why wasn't she crying!  What a stupid question??  Uhhmm, our grand daughter - your daughter is missing - think that calls for a few tears!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:10:40 AM
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20ALMODOVAR&state=FL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr= (http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20ALMODOVAR&state=FL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=)


WOW...............what in the Hooty Hell  is going on, this is just wierd!...........want me to call tomorrow and ask if ZFG is home! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 17, 2009, 12:11:01 AM
and darla im very sorry...i was obviously having a brainfart when i answered you. ::MonkeyWink::

That's ok peanut....my brain died a long time ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 12:15:10 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:15:17 AM
and darla im very sorry...i was obviously having a brainfart when i answered you. ::MonkeyWink::

That's ok peanut....my brain died a long time ago.

 :smt056



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 17, 2009, 12:15:39 AM
Baez requested that it be given to him as part of the discovery process.
Think he got what he expected ?
...
How are these ppl going to have a Public Memorial without it turning into a Public Brawl  if George, Cindy and Lee are there ? They would be better off to go into some sort of a witness protection program, change their names, get plastic surgery and leave for Aruba. Tomorrow. Sloots have a spare little apartment.
...
The talking doctors on Ng think Casey's emotional age is low low low. Maybe ten is my guess. 

LOL...Aruba would be just perfect for all these bozos; 

By the way, there is one thing I've noticed which now raises a red flag for me when I hear it because of just exactly who has said it in the past and it's this: 

"Just because he [ or she ] lies, doesn't meant that they are a murderer." 

So far, in the last few big cases I've heard Scott Peterson's parents say that same statement [ as well as his lawyer Mark Geragos ];  Anita van der Sloot in defending Joran;  and now have heard Cin Cin make the exact same statement early on in this case during her media blitzing.  Can this be the mark of a parent/attorney who actually know better ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 12:15:50 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:17:26 AM
Sawgrass Apartments:

215
Odemaris Franco (???)  (per whitepages)
home
2863 S Conway Rd, Apt 215
Orlando, FL 32812-5987
phone number unavailable

214  (still on whitepages)
Derrick Williams
Society Entertainment

218  (per docs)
Dante Salati

210   (per Casey)
Vacant Apt.  ("Zanny's place")




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:18:09 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
Interesting, and Im not sure where its located.......hmmmmmmmmmm.  Ill check if I can!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 17, 2009, 12:18:10 AM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

No, but it could have eaten another animal that did eat scavenge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:18:27 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::

Seminole County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:18:58 AM
On NG they are saying that a dead snake found near Caylee's remains, might have some of Caylee's remains inside of it. I don't think a snake would be eating a decomposing body, but I could be wrong. ::MonkeyEek::

No, but it could have eaten another animal that did eat scavenge.
Like rats....they swallow rats whole all the time....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
Interesting, and Im not sure where its located.......hmmmmmmmmmm.  Ill check if I can!

Thanks again-HH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:22:03 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)

You are such a clever monkey!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:26:31 AM
On July 17, when Casey was arrested and the ZFG story broke, I found an obituary notice for an 85-year-old grandmother in Bridgeport, Connecticut.  Her obituary mentioned that she was originally from Puerto Rico or Cuba.

Her name was Zenaida A. Fernandez, and she passed away on June 15, 2008. ::MonkeyShocked::

Now when I Google it, I get the Legacy site, and I'm not a member there.

(Google results, cut and paste:)

Legacy.com Secure Server
Fernandez, Zenaida - ZENAIDA A. Fernandez, age 85, of Bridgeport, passed into the peaceful rest of the Lord on Sunday, June 15, 2008 in Northbridge ...
legacy.net/Link.asp?I=LS000111780101 (http://legacy.net/Link.asp?I=LS000111780101) - 23k - Cached - Similar pages



Wonder what the initial "A" stands for?  (surely not Almodovar!)  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 17, 2009, 12:30:17 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

So do I !;  This video also demonstrates how Bird Brain Flu can effect some parents.  It's truly hard to watch their molly-coddling of her.  It's unreal.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know!  It was sickening!  I wanted them to hang up and walk out!!

When she starts with "why is she crying?"  I couldn't believe they didn't get mad.  First of all, I was never allowed nor are my children allowed to refer to me as she!!  I am their mother not a she.

And more importantly, why wasn't she crying!  What a stupid question??  Uhhmm, our grand daughter - your daughter is missing - think that calls for a few tears!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

They should have called her bluff when she was in kindergarten.  Have they never really cared enough about her to assert themselves or what ?  What is it - passive aggressive on the parent's part toward their child ?  Gooey gooey outside of the home and hellfire and damnation behind closed doors ?  If that's the case, no wonder Casey is what she is. It is all so abnormal..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:34:34 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

So do I !;  This video also demonstrates how Bird Brain Flu can effect some parents.  It's truly hard to watch their molly-coddling of her.  It's unreal.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know!  It was sickening!  I wanted them to hang up and walk out!!

When she starts with "why is she crying?"  I couldn't believe they didn't get mad.  First of all, I was never allowed nor are my children allowed to refer to me as she!!  I am their mother not a she.

And more importantly, why wasn't she crying!  What a stupid question??  Uhhmm, our grand daughter - your daughter is missing - think that calls for a few tears!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

They should have called her bluff when she was in kindergarten.  Have they never really cared enough about her to assert themselves or what ?  What is it - passive aggressive on the parent's part toward their child ?  Gooey gooey outside of the home and hellfire and damnation behind closed doors ?  If that's the case, no wonder Casey is what she is. It is all so abnormal..

ITA!!  Casey has to struggle to keep her temper controlled - only because she knew she was being recorded.  I can only imagine what she was like at home.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 17, 2009, 12:36:15 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::

It looked like to me that Casey almost said " She's [ meaning Caylee ? ] not there "  but she stopped right after "She's n......"  It was right after Cin Cin said "I went to Lake County.."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ono on January 17, 2009, 12:38:31 AM
Adieu for the day all...... ::MonkeyCool::  See ya later!  It's Sleepytime Down South.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:38:50 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::

It looked like to me that Casey almost said " She's [ meaning Caylee ? ] not there "  but she stopped right after "She's n......"  It was right after Cin Cin said "I went to Lake County.."

im listening to it again now and when she said ' i went to lake county.'  casey answers 'ok?' in an exasperated tone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 12:40:51 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)

You are such a clever monkey!!   ::MonkeyWink::
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/monkey.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:42:22 AM
Adieu for the day all...... ::MonkeyCool::  See ya later!  It's Sleepytime Down South.

Good nite - Ono! Nice chatting with you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 17, 2009, 12:42:52 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)

You are such a clever monkey!!   ::MonkeyWink::
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/monkey.jpg)

Could he have stayed there when he left CA?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:43:24 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 12:43:37 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)

You are such a clever monkey!!   ::MonkeyWink::
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/monkey.jpg)

Could he have stayed there when he left CA?
It's a commercial area IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 17, 2009, 12:45:06 AM
oh ok. Sorry...hadn't heard that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 12:45:40 AM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel

I can think of a couple of shows.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Lost
The Biggest Loser
Eleventh Hour
Criminal Minds
Prison Break
Numbers


I was gonna say Prison Girls but ya'll probably never seen that movie  ::MonkeyRoll::

No.... ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:46:27 AM
I searched George Anthony - this is what it came up with.  I'm wondering how he is associated with the Old Cheney Hwy address, hmmmmm.  BTW I looked up their address info months ago and it looks like they bought the house from George's father. 
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/3dc65437.jpg)

You are such a clever monkey!!   ::MonkeyWink::
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/monkey.jpg)

Could he have stayed there when he left CA?

Pretty sure he went and stayed with his parents in south Florida!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

So do I !;  This video also demonstrates how Bird Brain Flu can effect some parents.  It's truly hard to watch their molly-coddling of her.  It's unreal.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know!  It was sickening!  I wanted them to hang up and walk out!!

When she starts with "why is she crying?"  I couldn't believe they didn't get mad.  First of all, I was never allowed nor are my children allowed to refer to me as she!!  I am their mother not a she.

And more importantly, why wasn't she crying!  What a stupid question??  Uhhmm, our grand daughter - your daughter is missing - think that calls for a few tears!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

They should have called her bluff when she was in kindergarten.  Have they never really cared enough about her to assert themselves or what ?  What is it - passive aggressive on the parent's part toward their child ?  Gooey gooey outside of the home and hellfire and damnation behind closed doors ?  If that's the case, no wonder Casey is what she is. It is all so abnormal..

ITA!!  Casey has to struggle to keep her temper controlled - only because she knew she was being recorded.  I can only imagine what she was like at home.  ::MonkeyConfused::
IIRC, The night of June 15 the neighbors heard them yelling and they also stated that they had heard them at other times, both in the house and out in the yard.  I image it would get terribly loud between Cindy and Casey. Very disfunctional!!!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

There were also several other LE calls to the house even before Caylee was missing.  Very Strange!! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 12:50:36 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 17, 2009, 12:50:48 AM
Goodnight All. Stay warm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:52:40 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)
Boy wouldnt that be sad, if George stayed at a hotel long enough for it to show up as one of his addresses!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:52:58 AM
Goodnight All. Stay warm


night darla, be well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: heykim on January 17, 2009, 12:53:31 AM
WELLLL... i am caught up just in time to say g'nite..
NG on in ten minutes .... but it APPEARS that the BOMBSHELLS were all right HERE tonite..:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:53:59 AM
Good night everyone!  Getting tired and restless so I better get off!  Some of us know what happens when I stay on too long!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Night Klaas!!  I have stayed on topic the whole night and now I am going to give myself a big gold star!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:54:17 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)
Boy wouldnt that be sad, if George stayed at a hotel long enough for it to show up as one of his addresses!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


could it be that small car business he went into after his father and him parted ways in the dealership?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 12:55:52 AM
Good night everyone!  Getting tired and restless so I better get off!  Some of us know what happens when I stay on too long!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Night Klaas!!  I have stayed on topic the whole night and now I am going to give myself a big gold star!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Nite Mytime


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 12:55:56 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)
Boy wouldnt that be sad, if George stayed at a hotel long enough for it to show up as one of his addresses!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 12:56:24 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)
Boy wouldnt that be sad, if George stayed at a hotel long enough for it to show up as one of his addresses!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


could it be that small car business he went into after his father and him parted ways in the dealership?
Its doesnt look like a car lot, but who know, maybe a post office.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: mytime on January 17, 2009, 12:56:31 AM
George had a P.O. Box!  - Could it be that?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 12:57:33 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)
Boy wouldnt that be sad, if George stayed at a hotel long enough for it to show up as one of his addresses!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


could it be that small car business he went into after his father and him parted ways in the dealership?

i did a tax record search and nothing for George showing up... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 01:02:31 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)

IIRC it's a bunch of auto repair places and such - let me go check it out on my handy dandy peep finder.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 01:03:20 AM
Whay county did Sin-dy my live in-Mt dora? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 01:03:25 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
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P.O. Box 490630
Leesburg, FL 34749-0630
Phone: (352) 728-9731
Fax: (352) 728-9734 / (352) 728-9706
Web site: www.leesburgflorida.gov
E-mail: commissioners@leesburgflorida.gov
 
   
City of Mascotte
P.O. Box 56
100 E. Myers Blvd.
Mascotte, FL 34753-0056
Phone: (352) 429-3341
Fax: (352) 429-3345
Web site: www.cityofmascotte.com
E-mail: marge.strausbaugh@cityofmascotte.com
 City of Minneola
P.O. Box 678
Minneola, FL 34755-0678
Phone: (352) 394-3598 ext. 214
Fax: (352) 394-0051
Web site: www.minneola.us
 
    
Town of Montverde

P.O. Box 560008
Montverde, FL 34756-0008
Phone: 407-469-2681
Fax: 407-469-2773
E-mail: townhall@mymontverde.com
Web site: www.mymontverde.com
 City of Mount Dora
P.O. Box 176
Mount Dora, FL 32757-0176
Phone: (352) 735-7126
Fax: (352) 383-4801
E-mail: citycouncil-allemails@ci.mount-dora.fl.us
Web site: www.ci.mount-dora.fl.us
   
City of Tavares
P.O. Box 1068
201 E. Main St.
Tavares, FL 32778-1068
Phone: (352) 742-6209
Fax: (352) 742-6351
Web site: www.tavares.org
E-mail: nbarnett@tavares.org
 City of Umatilla
P.O. Box 2286
Umatilla, FL 32784-2286
Phone: (352) 669-3125
Fax: (352) 669-8313
Web site: www.umatillafl.org
E-mail: khoward@umatillafl.org

These are the cities I found in Lake County.  The only one that has any importance to me is Mt. Dora.  Does anyone know of anything else going on in Lake County?
  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:07:15 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 17, 2009, 01:07:51 AM
Good night everyone!  Getting tired and restless so I better get off!  Some of us know what happens when I stay on too long!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Night Klaas!!  I have stayed on topic the whole night and now I am going to give myself a big gold star!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Night night.  You earned your star !   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 01:07:52 AM
Could it be a motel?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/oldcheney.jpg)

IIRC it's a bunch of auto repair places and such - let me go check it out on my handy dandy peep finder.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Info I found for the address on Old Cheney Hwy
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/fc6956bf.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 01:08:24 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Cities and Communities of Lake County      
 
Town of Astatula
P.O. Box 609
Astatula, FL 34705-0609
Phone: (352) 742-1100
Fax: (352) 742-1970
Web site: www.townofastatula.com
E-mail: info@townofastatula.com
 City of Clermont685 West Montrose
Clermont, FL 34712-0219
Phone: (352) 394-4081 ext. 314
Fax: (352) 394-4087
Web site: www.cityofclermontfl.com
E-mail: wsaunders@clermontfl.org
 
   
City of Eustis
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Phone: 352-483-5430
Manager fax: (352) 357-1970
Clerk fax: (352) 357-2971
Web site: www.eustis.org
E-mail: eustiscm@eustis.org, commission@eustis.org
 City of Fruitland Park
506 W. Berckman Street
Fruitland Park, FL 34731-3239
Phone: (352) 360-6727
Fax: (352) 360-6686
Web site: www.fruitlandpark.org
E-mail: city@fruitlandpark.org
 
   
City of Groveland

156 S. Lake Ave.
Groveland, FL 34736-2597
Phone: (352) 429-2141 Ext. 231
Fax: (352) 429-3852
Web site: www.groveland-fl.gov
E-mail: teresa.begley@groveland-fl.gov
 Town of Howey-in-the-Hills
P.O. Box 128
Howey in the Hills, FL 34737-0128
Phone: (352) 324-2290
Fax: (352) 324-2126
Web site: www.howeyinthehills.org
E-mail: bbrasher@howey.org
 
   
Town of Lady Lake
409 Fennell Blvd.
Lady Lake, FL 32159-3158
Phone: (352) 751-1500
Fax: (352) 751-1510
Web site: www.ladylake.org
E-mail: bvance@ladylake.org,
kstraka@ladylake.org
 City of Leesburg
P.O. Box 490630
Leesburg, FL 34749-0630
Phone: (352) 728-9731
Fax: (352) 728-9734 / (352) 728-9706
Web site: www.leesburgflorida.gov
E-mail: commissioners@leesburgflorida.gov
 
   
City of Mascotte
P.O. Box 56
100 E. Myers Blvd.
Mascotte, FL 34753-0056
Phone: (352) 429-3341
Fax: (352) 429-3345
Web site: www.cityofmascotte.com
E-mail: marge.strausbaugh@cityofmascotte.com
 City of Minneola
P.O. Box 678
Minneola, FL 34755-0678
Phone: (352) 394-3598 ext. 214
Fax: (352) 394-0051
Web site: www.minneola.us
 
    
Town of Montverde

P.O. Box 560008
Montverde, FL 34756-0008
Phone: 407-469-2681
Fax: 407-469-2773
E-mail: townhall@mymontverde.com
Web site: www.mymontverde.com
 City of Mount Dora
P.O. Box 176
Mount Dora, FL 32757-0176
Phone: (352) 735-7126
Fax: (352) 383-4801
E-mail: citycouncil-allemails@ci.mount-dora.fl.us
Web site: www.ci.mount-dora.fl.us
   
City of Tavares
P.O. Box 1068
201 E. Main St.
Tavares, FL 32778-1068
Phone: (352) 742-6209
Fax: (352) 742-6351
Web site: www.tavares.org
E-mail: nbarnett@tavares.org
 City of Umatilla
P.O. Box 2286
Umatilla, FL 32784-2286
Phone: (352) 669-3125
Fax: (352) 669-8313
Web site: www.umatillafl.org
E-mail: khoward@umatillafl.org

These are the cities I found in Lake County.  The only one that has any importance to me is Mt. Dora.  Does anyone know of anything else going on in Lake County?
  



after hearing how cindys mind works as she spun her who zanny really is scenerios to the le and fbi its probably amys second cousins third wifes ex.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 01:09:57 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Cities and Communities of Lake County      
 
Town of Astatula
P.O. Box 609
Astatula, FL 34705-0609
Phone: (352) 742-1100
Fax: (352) 742-1970
Web site: www.townofastatula.com
E-mail: info@townofastatula.com
 City of Clermont685 West Montrose
Clermont, FL 34712-0219
Phone: (352) 394-4081 ext. 314
Fax: (352) 394-4087
Web site: www.cityofclermontfl.com
E-mail: wsaunders@clermontfl.org
 
   
City of Eustis
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Phone: 352-483-5430
Manager fax: (352) 357-1970
Clerk fax: (352) 357-2971
Web site: www.eustis.org
E-mail: eustiscm@eustis.org, commission@eustis.org
 City of Fruitland Park
506 W. Berckman Street
Fruitland Park, FL 34731-3239
Phone: (352) 360-6727
Fax: (352) 360-6686
Web site: www.fruitlandpark.org
E-mail: city@fruitlandpark.org
 
   
City of Groveland

156 S. Lake Ave.
Groveland, FL 34736-2597
Phone: (352) 429-2141 Ext. 231
Fax: (352) 429-3852
Web site: www.groveland-fl.gov
E-mail: teresa.begley@groveland-fl.gov
 Town of Howey-in-the-Hills
P.O. Box 128
Howey in the Hills, FL 34737-0128
Phone: (352) 324-2290
Fax: (352) 324-2126
Web site: www.howeyinthehills.org
E-mail: bbrasher@howey.org
 
   
Town of Lady Lake
409 Fennell Blvd.
Lady Lake, FL 32159-3158
Phone: (352) 751-1500
Fax: (352) 751-1510
Web site: www.ladylake.org
E-mail: bvance@ladylake.org,
kstraka@ladylake.org
 City of Leesburg
P.O. Box 490630
Leesburg, FL 34749-0630
Phone: (352) 728-9731
Fax: (352) 728-9734 / (352) 728-9706
Web site: www.leesburgflorida.gov
E-mail: commissioners@leesburgflorida.gov
 
   
City of Mascotte
P.O. Box 56
100 E. Myers Blvd.
Mascotte, FL 34753-0056
Phone: (352) 429-3341
Fax: (352) 429-3345
Web site: www.cityofmascotte.com
E-mail: marge.strausbaugh@cityofmascotte.com
 City of Minneola
P.O. Box 678
Minneola, FL 34755-0678
Phone: (352) 394-3598 ext. 214
Fax: (352) 394-0051
Web site: www.minneola.us
 
    
Town of Montverde

P.O. Box 560008
Montverde, FL 34756-0008
Phone: 407-469-2681
Fax: 407-469-2773
E-mail: townhall@mymontverde.com
Web site: www.mymontverde.com
 City of Mount Dora
P.O. Box 176
Mount Dora, FL 32757-0176
Phone: (352) 735-7126
Fax: (352) 383-4801
E-mail: citycouncil-allemails@ci.mount-dora.fl.us
Web site: www.ci.mount-dora.fl.us
   
City of Tavares
P.O. Box 1068
201 E. Main St.
Tavares, FL 32778-1068
Phone: (352) 742-6209
Fax: (352) 742-6351
Web site: www.tavares.org
E-mail: nbarnett@tavares.org
 City of Umatilla
P.O. Box 2286
Umatilla, FL 32784-2286
Phone: (352) 669-3125
Fax: (352) 669-8313
Web site: www.umatillafl.org
E-mail: khoward@umatillafl.org

These are the cities I found in Lake County.  The only one that has any importance to me is Mt. Dora.  Does anyone know of anything else going on in Lake County?
  


Thanks Dottie- So Mt Dora where Sin-dy's mom live is located in Lake County. Hmmmmm.
What is Cindy's mom last name? Remember Sin-dy's mom said there was a message on the tape of a little child twice.. and one time it ran all the way through the tape. I am just thinking
out loud was Casey taken Caylee to the grandmom house knowing she was visiting her granddad. And something happen @ the house... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 01:11:22 AM
Good night everyone!  Getting tired and restless so I better get off!  Some of us know what happens when I stay on too long!!   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Night Klaas!!  I have stayed on topic the whole night and now I am going to give myself a big gold star!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Good Night MT!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ddex on January 17, 2009, 01:12:34 AM
I am somewhat caught up for the day,but I just listened to yesterdays released video visit, in it's entirety.  I have got this vibe,towards the end of the video, that CA knows that  KC is "zanni". Knows about and ID maybe. After CA asks, KC says "tell zani I forgive her." That felt like KC was asking for her parents forgiveness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 01:13:01 AM
ROFLMAO

Molly Maidwork
5732 Old Cheney Hwy
Orlando, FL 32807-3525
(407) 282-9200

Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable

Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=5732+old+cheney+highway&city_zip=orlando&state_id=FL&localtime=survey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 01:13:41 AM
Er... "Molly Maid?"  (WhitePages)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 01:14:49 AM
ROFLMAO

Molly Maidwork
5732 Old Cheney Hwy
Orlando, FL 32807-3525
(407) 282-9200

Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable

Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=5732+old+cheney+highway&city_zip=orlando&state_id=FL&localtime=survey
                                      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
I am somewhat caught up for the day,but I just listened to yesterdays released video visit, in it's entirety.  I have got this vibe,towards the end of the video, that CA knows that  KC is "zanni". Knows about and ID maybe. After CA asks, KC says "tell zani I forgive her." That felt like KC was asking for her parents forgiveness.

Good point... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: higherhopes on January 17, 2009, 01:16:05 AM
UHHH   So George was a maid or his new girlfriend was one.. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 01:16:23 AM
ROFLMAO

Molly Maidwork
5732 Old Cheney Hwy
Orlando, FL 32807-3525
(407) 282-9200

Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable

Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=5732+old+cheney+highway&city_zip=orlando&state_id=FL&localtime=survey


too bad casey didnt get a job there. according to all her *ahem* male friends she likes to clean up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 01:16:34 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA
Hey Deenie!

Trenton Duckett was from Leesburg and there is also a memorial there for murdered children that has been in the news.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 01:19:50 AM
UHHH   So George was a maid or his new girlfriend was one.. ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi HH, Google also lists a car rental business.
Cut and paste:


addr.
5732 Old Cheney Hwy
Orlando, FL 32807

At this address:
Molly Maid‎
Snappy Car Rental‎


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 01:23:55 AM
 Just listening to the video again and Casey is yelling at Cindy talking about how mad she is and that she hasn't been mad one time...bla bla bla....


1)If your daughter had been murdered you wouldn't be mad?

2)If you were accused of her murder and didn't do it wouldn't you be mad?

3)If the world was talking about all these horrible things about you and your family, wouldn't you be mad?

I'd be mad as Hell all day every day!!! ::MonkeyShocked:: She just makes no since whatsoever!!!!  It gets more ridiculous every time I hear her!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 01:25:53 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA
Hey Deenie!

Trenton Duckett was from Leesburg and there is also a memorial there for murdered children that has been in the news.

Thanks Dottie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 01:26:54 AM
Good nite sweet monkeys!! Iam going back to do some research.. thanks for all your help.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:32:13 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::

Ok this is killing me because I went on the Orange County site the other day with the last name Almodovar
I put in first names of Zenaida and just for Monkey thoughts I as well looked up the name Alice

Well I found that they both are in the system - Both Names - NO middle names. Yet were all recorded in 1993 - within Orange County

Each filled out papers for Domicile to Live in Orlando from Puerto Rico - Funny thins ... Always ..

Each filed within 20 some days of each other - looks to me as the exact same handwriting. Zenaida actually wrote reason of change of residence - School
Alice no reason stated

Funny Thin again is - They both used the EXACT address as their Home in P.R. right down to a apt # - but its not an apt - It  is a Bus Station .. I chased it

Zenaida put up an Address for new residence on Semaron Blvd which is not NOT anything but a Tax Attorneys Law office. 1486 Semoran Blvd. Orlando

Alice put her new address as 1465 Montego Lane Orlando FL

Then you Map it and its walking Distance .........

Make the Madness Stop PLEASE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 01:33:40 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Cities and Communities of Lake County      
 
Town of Astatula
P.O. Box 609
Astatula, FL 34705-0609
Phone: (352) 742-1100
Fax: (352) 742-1970
Web site: www.townofastatula.com
E-mail: info@townofastatula.com
 City of Clermont685 West Montrose
Clermont, FL 34712-0219
Phone: (352) 394-4081 ext. 314
Fax: (352) 394-4087
Web site: www.cityofclermontfl.com
E-mail: wsaunders@clermontfl.org
 
   
City of Eustis
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Phone: 352-483-5430
Manager fax: (352) 357-1970
Clerk fax: (352) 357-2971
Web site: www.eustis.org
E-mail: eustiscm@eustis.org, commission@eustis.org
 City of Fruitland Park
506 W. Berckman Street
Fruitland Park, FL 34731-3239
Phone: (352) 360-6727
Fax: (352) 360-6686
Web site: www.fruitlandpark.org
E-mail: city@fruitlandpark.org
 
   
City of Groveland

156 S. Lake Ave.
Groveland, FL 34736-2597
Phone: (352) 429-2141 Ext. 231
Fax: (352) 429-3852
Web site: www.groveland-fl.gov
E-mail: teresa.begley@groveland-fl.gov
 Town of Howey-in-the-Hills
P.O. Box 128
Howey in the Hills, FL 34737-0128
Phone: (352) 324-2290
Fax: (352) 324-2126
Web site: www.howeyinthehills.org
E-mail: bbrasher@howey.org
 
   
Town of Lady Lake
409 Fennell Blvd.
Lady Lake, FL 32159-3158
Phone: (352) 751-1500
Fax: (352) 751-1510
Web site: www.ladylake.org
E-mail: bvance@ladylake.org,
kstraka@ladylake.org
 City of Leesburg
P.O. Box 490630
Leesburg, FL 34749-0630
Phone: (352) 728-9731
Fax: (352) 728-9734 / (352) 728-9706
Web site: www.leesburgflorida.gov
E-mail: commissioners@leesburgflorida.gov
 
   
City of Mascotte
P.O. Box 56
100 E. Myers Blvd.
Mascotte, FL 34753-0056
Phone: (352) 429-3341
Fax: (352) 429-3345
Web site: www.cityofmascotte.com
E-mail: marge.strausbaugh@cityofmascotte.com
 City of Minneola
P.O. Box 678
Minneola, FL 34755-0678
Phone: (352) 394-3598 ext. 214
Fax: (352) 394-0051
Web site: www.minneola.us
 
    
Town of Montverde

P.O. Box 560008
Montverde, FL 34756-0008
Phone: 407-469-2681
Fax: 407-469-2773
E-mail: townhall@mymontverde.com
Web site: www.mymontverde.com
 City of Mount Dora
P.O. Box 176
Mount Dora, FL 32757-0176
Phone: (352) 735-7126
Fax: (352) 383-4801
E-mail: citycouncil-allemails@ci.mount-dora.fl.us
Web site: www.ci.mount-dora.fl.us
   
City of Tavares
P.O. Box 1068
201 E. Main St.
Tavares, FL 32778-1068
Phone: (352) 742-6209
Fax: (352) 742-6351
Web site: www.tavares.org
E-mail: nbarnett@tavares.org
 City of Umatilla
P.O. Box 2286
Umatilla, FL 32784-2286
Phone: (352) 669-3125
Fax: (352) 669-8313
Web site: www.umatillafl.org
E-mail: khoward@umatillafl.org

These are the cities I found in Lake County.  The only one that has any importance to me is Mt. Dora.  Does anyone know of anything else going on in Lake County?
  


Thanks Dottie- So Mt Dora where Sin-dy's mom live is located in Lake County. Hmmmmm.
What is Cindy's mom last name? Remember Sin-dy's mom said there was a message on the tape of a little child twice.. and one time it ran all the way through the tape. I am just thinking
out loud was Casey taken Caylee to the grandmom house knowing she was visiting her granddad. And something happen @ the house... ::MonkeyTongue::
Shirley Plesea


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 01:34:56 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::

Ok this is killing me because I went on the Orange County site the other day with the last name Almodovar
I put in first names of Zenaida and just for Monkey thoughts I as well looked up the name Alice

Well I found that they both are in the system - Both Names - NO middle names. Yet were all recorded in 1993 - within Orange County

Each filled out papers for Domicile to Live in Orlando from Puerto Rico - Funny thins ... Always ..

Each filed within 20 some days of each other - looks to me as the exact same handwriting. Zenaida actually wrote reason of change of residence - School
Alice no reason stated

Funny Thin again is - They both used the EXACT address as their Home in P.R. right down to a apt # - but its not an apt - It  is a Bus Station .. I chased it

Zenaida put up an Address for new residence on Semaron Blvd which is not NOT anything but a Tax Attorneys Law office. 1486 Semoran Blvd. Orlando

Alice put her new address as 1465 Montego Lane Orlando FL

Then you Map it and its walking Distance .........

Make the Madness Stop PLEASE
It really is a small world after all........
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:35:25 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA
Hey Deenie!

Trenton Duckett was from Leesburg and there is also a memorial there for murdered children that has been in the news.

Thanks Dottie

Klaas You know I had thoughts on Leesburg on my Mind when asked about the counties- they were Strong yet not connected to Cindy/Casey ... U nailed It ..as always Klaas ... :smt049


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: monkeymike on January 17, 2009, 01:35:29 AM
Does anyone know if the Oviedo house in located Lake County. Sin-dy brought Lake county up  before Casey got frustrated again. ::MonkeyTongue::
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Cities and Communities of Lake County      
 
Town of Astatula
P.O. Box 609
Astatula, FL 34705-0609
Phone: (352) 742-1100
Fax: (352) 742-1970
Web site: www.townofastatula.com
E-mail: info@townofastatula.com
 City of Clermont685 West Montrose
Clermont, FL 34712-0219
Phone: (352) 394-4081 ext. 314
Fax: (352) 394-4087
Web site: www.cityofclermontfl.com
E-mail: wsaunders@clermontfl.org
 
   
City of Eustis
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Phone: 352-483-5430
Manager fax: (352) 357-1970
Clerk fax: (352) 357-2971
Web site: www.eustis.org
E-mail: eustiscm@eustis.org, commission@eustis.org
 City of Fruitland Park
506 W. Berckman Street
Fruitland Park, FL 34731-3239
Phone: (352) 360-6727
Fax: (352) 360-6686
Web site: www.fruitlandpark.org
E-mail: city@fruitlandpark.org
 
   
City of Groveland

156 S. Lake Ave.
Groveland, FL 34736-2597
Phone: (352) 429-2141 Ext. 231
Fax: (352) 429-3852
Web site: www.groveland-fl.gov
E-mail: teresa.begley@groveland-fl.gov
 Town of Howey-in-the-Hills
P.O. Box 128
Howey in the Hills, FL 34737-0128
Phone: (352) 324-2290
Fax: (352) 324-2126
Web site: www.howeyinthehills.org
E-mail: bbrasher@howey.org
 
   
Town of Lady Lake
409 Fennell Blvd.
Lady Lake, FL 32159-3158
Phone: (352) 751-1500
Fax: (352) 751-1510
Web site: www.ladylake.org
E-mail: bvance@ladylake.org,
kstraka@ladylake.org
 City of Leesburg
P.O. Box 490630
Leesburg, FL 34749-0630
Phone: (352) 728-9731
Fax: (352) 728-9734 / (352) 728-9706
Web site: www.leesburgflorida.gov
E-mail: commissioners@leesburgflorida.gov
 
   
City of Mascotte
P.O. Box 56
100 E. Myers Blvd.
Mascotte, FL 34753-0056
Phone: (352) 429-3341
Fax: (352) 429-3345
Web site: www.cityofmascotte.com
E-mail: marge.strausbaugh@cityofmascotte.com
 City of Minneola
P.O. Box 678
Minneola, FL 34755-0678
Phone: (352) 394-3598 ext. 214
Fax: (352) 394-0051
Web site: www.minneola.us
 
    
Town of Montverde

P.O. Box 560008
Montverde, FL 34756-0008
Phone: 407-469-2681
Fax: 407-469-2773
E-mail: townhall@mymontverde.com
Web site: www.mymontverde.com
 City of Mount Dora
P.O. Box 176
Mount Dora, FL 32757-0176
Phone: (352) 735-7126
Fax: (352) 383-4801
E-mail: citycouncil-allemails@ci.mount-dora.fl.us
Web site: www.ci.mount-dora.fl.us
   
City of Tavares
P.O. Box 1068
201 E. Main St.
Tavares, FL 32778-1068
Phone: (352) 742-6209
Fax: (352) 742-6351
Web site: www.tavares.org
E-mail: nbarnett@tavares.org
 City of Umatilla
P.O. Box 2286
Umatilla, FL 32784-2286
Phone: (352) 669-3125
Fax: (352) 669-8313
Web site: www.umatillafl.org
E-mail: khoward@umatillafl.org

These are the cities I found in Lake County.  The only one that has any importance to me is Mt. Dora.  Does anyone know of anything else going on in Lake County?
  


Trenton Duckett lived in Leesburg. Leesburg is in Lake County. Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:36:03 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA
Hey Deenie!

Trenton Duckett was from Leesburg and there is also a memorial there for murdered children that has been in the news.

Thanks Dottie

Klaas You know I had thoughts on Leesburg on my Mind when asked about the counties- they were Strong yet not connected to Cindy/Casey ... U nailed It ..as always Klaas ... :smt049
And Dottie thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 01:37:00 AM
Blink...you are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!  I can't imagine the amount of hard work you put into this.  I am still trying to wrap my poor little brain around it!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 01:37:15 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:42:54 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::

Ok this is killing me because I went on the Orange County site the other day with the last name Almodovar
I put in first names of Zenaida and just for Monkey thoughts I as well looked up the name Alice

Well I found that they both are in the system - Both Names - NO middle names. Yet were all recorded in 1993 - within Orange County

Each filled out papers for Domicile to Live in Orlando from Puerto Rico - Funny thins ... Always ..

Each filed within 20 some days of each other - looks to me as the exact same handwriting. Zenaida actually wrote reason of change of residence - School
Alice no reason stated

Funny Thin again is - They both used the EXACT address as their Home in P.R. right down to a apt # - but its not an apt - It  is a Bus Station .. I chased it

Zenaida put up an Address for new residence on Semaron Blvd which is not NOT anything but a Tax Attorneys Law office. 1486 Semoran Blvd. Orlando

Alice put her new address as 1465 Montego Lane Orlando FL

Then you Map it and its walking Distance .........

Make the Madness Stop PLEASE
It really is a small world after all........
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
KcJackie I think occompt has banned me ..lol because I have spent way too many hours on the site http://www.occompt.com either that or they are downloading/upgrading at this hour ... I can't get in.

The reason Why I used the Name Alice was bec of Neighbor Dilly/Dilley Dennis Alice - and I swear if you go to Occompt and look up the name under " both" grantor/grantee you will see yourself - Only One Record comes up for the the name Zenaida Almodovar and only One Record comes up with the name Alice Almodovar - they are pdf files that will open -
I swear its the same handwriting ... they offer the exact information from P.R. and its just Strange - filed within 20 days of each other.

Freak Show which every way we turn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:45:24 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.

Good Nite Desi .... I love that Name .. I think You should Be Desi
Babbalou ..lol ..  :smt060 Nite Nite


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 01:50:20 AM

Is there anything new on the defense trying to get records from Tim Miller?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 01:54:39 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 01:57:35 AM
Just listening to the video again and Casey is yelling at Cindy talking about how mad she is and that she hasn't been mad one time...bla bla bla....


1)If your daughter had been murdered you wouldn't be mad?

2)If you were accused of her murder and didn't do it wouldn't you be mad?

3)If the world was talking about all these horrible things about you and your family, wouldn't you be mad?

I'd be mad as Hell all day every day!!! ::MonkeyShocked:: She just makes no since whatsoever!!!!  It gets more ridiculous every time I hear her!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Dottie WE are Normal ...They the ANTS are Not

I hope that Leroy just had a moment of I have to break away ... and give Herself some relief away from talking about all of this ... I have my monkey fingers crossed.
I had to do the same a while back .. I just had to step away ..for a few wks ..even though I so wanted to check in with SM ..I could not even bare to lurk ..It is disheartening and its a mind bender to Be a Monkey at one's fullest 100 percent all the time ... You just have to walk off for a while and then re-adjust ..and come back.

It has nothing to do with SM at all - It's the Anthony's and Casey and Everything ....Knowing that Caylee is in a cardboard box ..and NO One seems to care ...as if they did in June ... same same ..different day ..with Tens more players and $$$$$ to be made ..hanging in the balance ... of what the Ant's feel they can sqweek out of their Grand Daughters journey to her death. Caylee is Dead. That is not what is important to Cindy and George. They know that within the Notoriety of this CASE they have Profit to be made. And they Feel in Some Sick way that they should be rewarded as Parents of Casey and Grandparents of Caylee. Because they feel that they have lost two family members.
BOOO HOOO

Nada - no ..thats not how a Normal family would react to losing a precious, innocent grand baby to the demise of their own - spawn daughter Casey.

My Rant ...

Your Reactions Dottie are Normal and so are Leroy's - I hope she comes back

I think she will  ::MonkeyWink::
Hugs K 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:00:46 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:05:13 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 02:06:09 AM
does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?


Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

I am still trying to catch up, but i second the WTF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on January 17, 2009, 02:06:50 AM
Wow after reading what what discovered from the computer forensic report I had no clue that Casey was listed on a dating site called CUPID.  The other thing that is disturbing after what we know now is the quote she had on her myspace from Tupac.  I can't repeat it her cause of some foul language but in short it was saying you can analyse things for forever or you can leave the pieces on the floor and move on.  How awful after what we now know..just sick


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Searching on January 17, 2009, 02:07:36 AM
Er... "Molly Maid?"  (WhitePages)


Was the porn pic not a maids uniform/costume... I know .. Bad monkey  ::MonkeyLaugh::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:08:23 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.
I feel your rush within your writing ...can you restate it ... Me Monkey brain is trying to keep up with your words...

Me sorry .. I am a bit dyslexic ..can you slow down and retype it so it all comes together.  Please because I do find it important. Thank U


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:11:09 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:12:22 AM
Wow after reading what what discovered from the computer forensic report I had no clue that Casey was listed on a dating site called CUPID.  The other thing that is disturbing after what we know now is the quote she had on her myspace from Tupac.  I can't repeat it her cause of some foul language but in short it was saying you can analyse things for forever or you can leave the pieces on the floor and move on.  How awful after what we now know..just sick
Isnt that special her Dating Ad - that she is just a Homebody .. and you will find within her house ... melting Popsicle wrappers on her coffee table and she just is a simple girl ..who laughs and loves and enjoys her daughter ..and play darts ..at the local pub .......from to time when she can find it available ..........  :smt097  thats for Casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:12:36 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

WTF????????/// Ok, it's official-driving to the liquor store tomorrow am  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:15:52 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:17:07 AM
Just listening to the video again and Casey is yelling at Cindy talking about how mad she is and that she hasn't been mad one time...bla bla bla....


1)If your daughter had been murdered you wouldn't be mad?

2)If you were accused of her murder and didn't do it wouldn't you be mad?

3)If the world was talking about all these horrible things about you and your family, wouldn't you be mad?

I'd be mad as Hell all day every day!!! ::MonkeyShocked:: She just makes no since whatsoever!!!!  It gets more ridiculous every time I hear her!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Dottie WE are Normal ...They the ANTS are Not

I hope that Leroy just had a moment of I have to break away ... and give Herself some relief away from talking about all of this ... I have my monkey fingers crossed.
I had to do the same a while back .. I just had to step away ..for a few wks ..even though I so wanted to check in with SM ..I could not even bare to lurk ..It is disheartening and its a mind bender to Be a Monkey at one's fullest 100 percent all the time ... You just have to walk off for a while and then re-adjust ..and come back.

It has nothing to do with SM at all - It's the Anthony's and Casey and Everything ....Knowing that Caylee is in a cardboard box ..and NO One seems to care ...as if they did in June ... same same ..different day ..with Tens more players and $$$$$ to be made ..hanging in the balance ... of what the Ant's feel they can sqweek out of their Grand Daughters journey to her death. Caylee is Dead. That is not what is important to Cindy and George. They know that within the Notoriety of this CASE they have Profit to be made. And they Feel in Some Sick way that they should be rewarded as Parents of Casey and Grandparents of Caylee. Because they feel that they have lost two family members.
BOOO HOOO

Nada - no ..thats not how a Normal family would react to losing a precious, innocent grand baby to the demise of their own - spawn daughter Casey.

My Rant ...

Your Reactions Dottie are Normal and so are Leroy's - I hope she comes back

I think she will  ::MonkeyWink::
Hugs K 




I know what you mean.  You can't make something or someone rational that is irrational but it is so maddening( is that a word  ::MonkeyHaHa::).  It makes me just want to slap them all and say wake up(or something worse).....for every rational person in the world it is so easy to see...just like Cindy's brother was telling her months ago...it makes them look so stupid.  I will have to say that after watching this new video I don't think Cindy knew at that time what had happened.  She was so obviously devistated and wanted any little piece of information that Casey would give her.  Now George, I couldn't tell.  He is a sly one...I don't think that Casey got all her bad genes from Cindy...George has a few of his own!

I think Leroy will be back.  You do have to take a break once in a while.  My daughter tells me all the time not to look at these things too much because it's so depressing but this is a great site because there is a good combination of discussing the case, comic relief and fellowship with so many good people MONKEYS.  ::MonkeyWink::

So, thanks Red, Dugga, Klaas and all the Mods for making this a great place to spend our time.   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:20:33 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: WHAT.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:22:17 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


Sorry Islandmonkey, I missed your post.  Yes, Trenton Duckett was from Leesburg.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:22:30 AM
LOL island monkey . ok  I felt the same way when I found this out.  read it a couple of times and it will make sense. it is just a surprise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:22:55 AM
Er... "Molly Maid?"  (WhitePages)


Was the porn pic not a maids uniform/costume... I know .. Bad monkey  ::MonkeyLaugh::
that is a costume prob made and sold in an Adult Trend store - we have such stores in my local area ... I know cuz I have seen such costumes .. they are itty bitty and are not cheap by any makes ... I have a friend who just bought one for Halloween this last year - over 100 bones and ..it is what it is ... an outfit that should never be seen in Public..made for the bedroom so to say .. But she bought it and Did wear it in public .. Who am I .... shrug ... if you go to this website its the same store in my area - www.loverslane.com  - they Sell those outfits all year round ..just promote them at Halloween.  I am sure Casey is family with such places ... Lovers lane is the McDonalds of sleeze wear .. just to mention. Big Corporation .. Not independent.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 02:24:47 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.

Good Nite Desi .... I love that Name .. I think You should Be Desi
Babbalou ..lol ..  :smt060 Nite Nite

Hey, I'm back -- the idea was to go to bed, but got sidetracked by my son...

BAbbalou!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Took me a minute.

Luuuuuucyyyy!  You've got some 'splainin' to do!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

Maybe because they really think their own wallets are a "non profit organization"  ?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Even those Orgs that are historically known as Non Profits Orgs have their own way of Profiting and I am not talking about Volunteers and or the People who work tirelessly within - its the BIG staff ..that wind up compensating more so than ...who they are striving to provide for .. are 2nd shelf
Its all about Exemption and monies to be hidden ~ and Taken by those who control what is incoming and Out going ... Hmmph. Its true though.

Sad and True - I worked for years for a very well Known Non Profit Org and I was appalled by too many things and money going ..into and onto too many pockets ... rather than for the cause itself. ** For Boo no this was not within Animals but People. 



i have worked for non-profits too and i know what you mean...if people only knew...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:26:40 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.

Good Nite Desi .... I love that Name .. I think You should Be Desi
Babbalou ..lol ..  :smt060 Nite Nite

Hey, I'm back -- the idea was to go to bed, but got sidetracked by my son...

BAbbalou!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Took me a minute.

Luuuuuucyyyy!  You've got some 'splainin' to do!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Chu Kno .. Efel has ... some "splainin" to do too ... Luuuuuucyy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:27:08 AM
Er... "Molly Maid?"  (WhitePages)


Was the porn pic not a maids uniform/costume... I know .. Bad monkey  ::MonkeyLaugh::



  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 02:27:43 AM
LOL island monkey . ok  I felt the same way when I found this out.  read it a couple of times and it will make sense. it is just a surprise.

im confused. casey said a relatives of zannys lived in their neighborhood on hopesripng dr?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:30:13 AM
I'll try the last part one more time. KC took LE to a complex and pointed to a condo and said it was where Zani's  relative lived but the person that really lived in that place was one of Kio Marie's relative's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:31:18 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.

Good Nite Desi .... I love that Name .. I think You should Be Desi
Babbalou ..lol ..  :smt060 Nite Nite

Hey, I'm back -- the idea was to go to bed, but got sidetracked by my son...

BAbbalou!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Took me a minute.

Luuuuuucyyyy!  You've got some 'splainin' to do!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
You just couldn't stay away  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Did you read ILOVEGOODIES post?   Very Interesting!!!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:32:24 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))

Ahh~That is the sweetest post I've ever head Deenie  ::MonkeyWaa:: no breeze of warm air tonight......we are at 37 outside, time for Florida monkeys to pull out long undies and Uggs ::MonkeyTongue:: Are you located in the frozen parts?? If so, here ya go.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:33:18 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

WTF????????/// Ok, it's official-driving to the liquor store tomorrow am  ::MonkeyEek::
Send some absolute my way!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 02:34:38 AM
I'll try the last part one more time. KC took LE to a complex and pointed to a condo and said it was where Zani's  relative lived but the person that really lived in that place was one of Kio Marie's relative's

where did you read that? could you please post a link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 02:37:32 AM
Goodnight bed-bound monkeys! 

Sorry if I've been a busily chattering but unsociable monkey tonight.  I read all of your posts and love what you all have to say.  I see who's sick and who's upset and who's silly and think you are all great.  I see everybody caring so much and working so hard to get to the bottom of this crazy case.  I'm so impressed. 
 ::MonkeyDance::

Desi is signing off for the night too...

God bless our sweet Caylee.

Good Nite Desi .... I love that Name .. I think You should Be Desi
Babbalou ..lol ..  :smt060 Nite Nite

Hey, I'm back -- the idea was to go to bed, but got sidetracked by my son...

BAbbalou!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Took me a minute.

Luuuuuucyyyy!  You've got some 'splainin' to do!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
You just couldn't stay away  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Did you read ILOVEGOODIES post?   Very Interesting!!!  ::MonkeyEek::

Yes, struggling mightily against my impulse....   must .... not .... Google ....
Tomorrow is another day!  *makes notes to check out ilovegoodies' new kiozannycrazycasey info tomorrow...*

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:37:56 AM
LOL island monkey . ok  I felt the same way when I found this out.  read it a couple of times and it will make sense. it is just a surprise.

im confused. casey said a relatives of zannys lived in their neighborhood on hopesripng dr?

No, Peanut what happened was the Ant's address was looked up on People finder type sites on the net.   It came up with the Ant's address yet with the NAME attached as Zenaida Almodovar  - which makes no sense and that name was Added in May of 2008 to this white pages/directory on the net  = which if you read Blinks Post on the front page of SM ... and we all have been saying that ZG is and has been Casey's AKA ...

Then you have at then end of Hopespring a House owned by a Gonzalez and a Neighbor that is within the neighborhood - Zenaida which is on the counter corner .. all pointing to where Caylee's remains were found ...
Its all but a puzzle -
I am sure I screwed this up - Its very overwhelming to type at this hour - plus its all new and enlightening at the same time



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:37:59 AM
LOL island monkey . ok  I felt the same way when I found this out.  read it a couple of times and it will make sense. it is just a surprise.

I may have to read it again many times tomorrow, later today when my brains are scramble like eggs.........by the way, recognize this???  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:38:44 AM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:39:08 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

WTF????????/// Ok, it's official-driving to the liquor store tomorrow am  ::MonkeyEek::
Send some absolute my way!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Will do~what's you flavor ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 02:43:00 AM
LOL island monkey . ok  I felt the same way when I found this out.  read it a couple of times and it will make sense. it is just a surprise.

im confused. casey said a relatives of zannys lived in their neighborhood on hopesripng dr?

No, Peanut what happened was the Ant's address was looked up on People finder type sites on the net.   It came up with the Ant's address yet with the NAME attached as Zenaida Almodovar  - which makes no sense and that name was Added in May of 2008 to this white pages/directory on the net  = which if you read Blinks Post on the front page of SM ... and we all have been saying that ZG is and has been Casey's AKA ...

Then you have at then end of Hopespring a House owned by a Gonzalez and a Neighbor that is within the neighborhood - Zenaida which is on the counter corner .. all pointing to where Caylee's remains were found ...
Its all but a puzzle -
I am sure I screwed this up - Its very overwhelming to type at this hour - plus its all new and enlightening at the same time



yes i aw that before. im sorry i must be dense, but what does the condo where casey said zannys relatives lived at have to do zio marie?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:45:09 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))

Ahh~That is the sweetest post I've ever head Deenie  ::MonkeyWaa:: no breeze of warm air tonight......we are at 37 outside, time for Florida monkeys to pull out long undies and Uggs ::MonkeyTongue:: Are you located in the frozen parts?? If so, here ya go.......

Me Island Monkey ...today when I woke up * Friday it was 27 below Zero actual Temp - Hello ... and Sat is not to be but - WE hope for above Zero ... Yah it really is bitter cold. Its ok if the Sun is blazing .. seems to make it better ..but when your Lungs hurt after 4, 5 minutes just from breathin... Its Too Damn cold Sister.

I pray for all those who have no shelter tonite in my area - and for all my Fur Babies that I feed almost every day in my yard ... I feel bad that I skipped since the big snow fall .. I have not seen my Squirrels or my Birdies .. I know their there .. but it seems pointless to put their food out ..when its buried by snow or rots in the snow .. :( before they can find it and or eat it .....  Ugggh ... kills me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 02:45:55 AM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure

yes i read that as well. im really sorry i know its late and im probably just being dense.  you said something about the condo casey pointed out to le that is really the seniors only facility across the street from ricardos apt is really inhabited by kio maries relatives?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:46:43 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

WTF????????/// Ok, it's official-driving to the liquor store tomorrow am  ::MonkeyEek::
Send some absolute my way!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Will do~what's you flavor ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: At this point I don't think it matters.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:49:01 AM
yes Island that is what I look at everyday.

How I ended up searching this Kio Marie thing  was way back in the early days I thought what if Kio Marie had taken Caylee from the backyard while KC was on the phone yakking. it didn't take long to figure out that was wrong


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:49:15 AM
I'll try the last part one more time. KC took LE to a complex and pointed to a condo and said it was where Zani's  relative lived but the person that really lived in that place was one of Kio Marie's relative's
I think that Kio Marie and Annie are going to be Crucial  when this all comes to Trial = If Kio Marie's testimony can be used ..since she has been printed in every gossip rag ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Desdemona on January 17, 2009, 02:50:41 AM
Goodnight, dear lovely Monkeys! :smt039

I love the picture of sweet little Peanut-kitty.  I will go to bed with the thought of Peanut curled up in a warm sleepy ball in Caylee's lap -- Peanut purring to beat the band, Caylee delighted to snuggle up with such a special little creature...




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:51:13 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))

Ahh~That is the sweetest post I've ever head Deenie  ::MonkeyWaa:: no breeze of warm air tonight......we are at 37 outside, time for Florida monkeys to pull out long undies and Uggs ::MonkeyTongue:: Are you located in the frozen parts?? If so, here ya go.......

Me Island Monkey ...today when I woke up * Friday it was 27 below Zero actual Temp - Hello ... and Sat is not to be but - WE hope for above Zero ... Yah it really is bitter cold. Its ok if the Sun is blazing .. seems to make it better ..but when your Lungs hurt after 4, 5 minutes just from breathin... Its Too Damn cold Sister.

I pray for all those who have no shelter tonite in my area - and for all my Fur Babies that I feed almost every day in my yard ... I feel bad that I skipped since the big snow fall .. I have not seen my Squirrels or my Birdies .. I know their there .. but it seems pointless to put their food out ..when its buried by snow or rots in the snow .. :( before they can find it and or eat it .....  Ugggh ... kills me


Ouch~I feel bad for whining, it seems like this has been one of the coldest winters for almost everyone else in yearssssssssssss. Come on down to the redneck riviera where our normal temp in the winter months is 65ish and warm up!

I know what you mean about feeding the strays, I had an outside cat due to allergies and everynight I would end up feeding 16 stray cats, a racoon and a possum when I lived in TN, but they all ate together and then would disappear during the day. Now that I moved away, I hope they found another outside cat to share with:(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: ilovegoodies on January 17, 2009, 02:51:41 AM
yes peanut Kio Marie's relative's did live in that very apt. she pointed to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 02:51:58 AM
Goodnight, dear lovely Monkeys! :smt039

I love the picture of sweet little Peanut-kitty.  I will go to bed with the thought of Peanut curled up in a warm sleepy ball in Caylee's lap -- Peanut purring to beat the band, Caylee delighted to snuggle up with such a special little creature...





aw good night desdemona, thats so very sweet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 02:53:35 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

WTF????????/// Ok, it's official-driving to the liquor store tomorrow am  ::MonkeyEek::
Send some absolute my way!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Will do~what's you flavor ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: At this point I don't think it matters.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ok then, I'll put your order in for a couple of bottle of Jordan Cabernet and some Jack Daniels..............then when summer rolls around, well get into the rum ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 02:55:40 AM
Goodnight, dear lovely Monkeys! :smt039

I love the picture of sweet little Peanut-kitty.  I will go to bed with the thought of Peanut curled up in a warm sleepy ball in Caylee's lap -- Peanut purring to beat the band, Caylee delighted to snuggle up with such a special little creature...



Nite Nite Sleep Tight DES  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: luckycharmsprincess on January 17, 2009, 02:59:21 AM
Snipped

LUCKYCHARMSPRINCESS: I really appreciate your input; but I respectfully disagree with your statement: "People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders"
According to Robert Hare Phd, author of "Without Conscience" , creator of the "Psychopathy Checklist" & the world's leading authority on psychopathy:

Many researchers, clinicians, and writers use the terms psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. Sometimes the term sociopathy is used because it is less likely than is psychopathy to be confused with psychoticism or insanity. In many cases the choice of term reflects the user's views on the origins and determinents of the clinical syndrome or disorder described in this book. Thus, some clinicians and researchers--as well as most sociologists and criminologists--who believe that the syndrome is forged entirely by social forces and early experiences prefer the term sociopath, whereas those--including this writer--who feel that psychological, biological, and genetic factors also contribute to development of the syndrome generally use the term psychopath. The same individual  therefore could be diagnosed as a sociopath by one expert and as a psychopath by  another.

He does take issue with interchanging the term anti-social personality disorder with both of these believing that anti-social does not cover all aspects of psychopathy. Anti-social defined by; a cluster of criminal and anti-social behaviors & psychopathy defined by; a cluster of both personality traits and socially deviant behaviors(as defined in DSM IV, the psychology bible.

CONDUCT DISORDER is the term used to define individuals, with this syndrome, who are under age 18.


Got company coming, will try to be back later. If not, nite all!  ::MonkeyRoll::


KUDOS TO BLINK: MONKEYS RULE!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Monken,

Dr. Hare is a well renouned leader in the defining and application of psychopathic personalities, you are certainly right about that and I do not disagree there. I'm only pointing out that while there are characteristics that are the very similiar, the manifestations of these characteristics are very different. I know you might disagree with me there too but Dr. Hare comes from a background in psychophysiology, I do not. :)

A lot of people have called Casey, Pathological Liar, Dissociative Personality, Borderline Personality, Asperger's Syndrome, Narcississtic Personality and on and on. Without a full psychological exam, no one will know for sure until history is disclosed. Recently psychologists have been calling sociopathic "anti-social personality disorder" by the DSM IV, and many psychs have said it is too broad of a definition. As you know, the more we learn about brain chemistry and the more people there are to study with these disorders, the better chance we will have to categorize them more succintly. The world of psychology and psychiatry is opinionated because the human mind has so many facets and so many facets yet to discover.

Prior to what we knew about her......I think people saw Casey as 'normal looking' (in her photos with Caylee) and have a hard time wrapping their head around how such an evil mind can come in such a normal looking package.

I included the site for this info in case anyone would like to read the entire article. Everyone will interpret Casey's behavior based on how they see her fit into the categories below. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1013712/sociopath_vs_psychopath_the_differences.html

Characteristics of a sociopath are as followed:
 

1. Sociopaths are very charming.
2. Sociopaths can be extremely manipulative and will try to con you whenever possible.
3. Sociopaths feel that they are entitled to everything.
4. Sociopaths will lie continuously to get what they want. They can even sometimes manipulate a lie detector.
5. Sociopaths have no remorse, shame or guilt.
6. Sociopaths will show love and happiness only when it serves their purpose. None of the feelings are genuine.
7. Sociopaths have no room for love in their life.
8. Sociopaths need to have excitement in their lives or live on the edge.
9. Sociopaths have lack of empathy hen their victims suffer pain that they have caused.
10. Sociopaths believe that they are all mightier than tho, there is no concern on how their behavior impacts others.
11. Sociopaths usually have a long history of juvenile delinquency as well as behavior problems.
12. Sociopaths will never take blame for anything they have done to anyone no matter if it is family or friend.
13. Sociopaths have many sexual partners and tend to act out many sexual acts.
14. Sociopaths rarely stay in one place for a long time (home/work).
15. Sociopaths will change themselves if they know it will keep them from being found out.

Characteristics of a psychopath are as followed:

1. Psychopaths use superficial charm to lure their victims.
2. Psychopaths are extremely self-centered.
3. Psychopaths must always do something to keep themselves from boredom.
4. Psychopaths are very deceptive and tend to lie continuously.
5. Psychopaths show no remorse of guilt towards their victims.
6. Psychopaths are very predatory and usually will live off other people.
7. Psychopaths have many sexual partners in their lifetime.
8. Psychopaths are very impulsive with their lifestyle.
9. Psychopaths are always blaming other people for their actions.
10. Psychopaths never have a realistic view of their lives. (king of the world or from another planet)
11. Psychopaths always want psychological gratification in sexual and criminal activities.
12. Psychopaths tend to try suicide, rarely succeeding.

Enjoy your company!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 02:59:45 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))

Ahh~That is the sweetest post I've ever head Deenie  ::MonkeyWaa:: no breeze of warm air tonight......we are at 37 outside, time for Florida monkeys to pull out long undies and Uggs ::MonkeyTongue:: Are you located in the frozen parts?? If so, here ya go.......

Me Island Monkey ...today when I woke up * Friday it was 27 below Zero actual Temp - Hello ... and Sat is not to be but - WE hope for above Zero ... Yah it really is bitter cold. Its ok if the Sun is blazing .. seems to make it better ..but when your Lungs hurt after 4, 5 minutes just from breathin... Its Too Damn cold Sister.

I pray for all those who have no shelter tonite in my area - and for all my Fur Babies that I feed almost every day in my yard ... I feel bad that I skipped since the big snow fall .. I have not seen my Squirrels or my Birdies .. I know their there .. but it seems pointless to put their food out ..when its buried by snow or rots in the snow .. :( before they can find it and or eat it .....  Ugggh ... kills me


Ouch~I feel bad for whining, it seems like this has been one of the coldest winters for almost everyone else in yearssssssssssss. Come on down to the redneck riviera where our normal temp in the winter months is 65ish and warm up!

I know what you mean about feeding the strays, I had an outside cat due to allergies and everynight I would end up feeding 16 stray cats, a racoon and a possum when I lived in TN, but they all ate together and then would disappear during the day. Now that I moved away, I hope they found another outside cat to share with:(
Island Yah I worry about all the Fur Babies but too I worry about all the Homeless Humans and I pray for each and every one of them - for Yesterday and today and the next week. I live 15 mins from Downtown Detroit and I know for a fact that this Cold has taken many people by ... cold snap because it came out of nowhere. It has been cold and we have had tons of snow but never this Cold ..this is a Cold no Human could escape ..even one that is resourceful as a street person ... no way. One day You and I will have to exchange emails .. I really find you and your poems, photos .. remarkable. I must say ... lol ... We will have to meet up on the other boards within SM not on Caylee's time ..K.
:)

oxo K aka Deenie ... Deenie is my Puppy ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 03:00:08 AM
Goodnight, dear lovely Monkeys! :smt039

I love the picture of sweet little Peanut-kitty.  I will go to bed with the thought of Peanut curled up in a warm sleepy ball in Caylee's lap -- Peanut purring to beat the band, Caylee delighted to snuggle up with such a special little creature...



Nite Nite Sleep Tight DES  ::MonkeyWink::
Well, It's 3:00 A.M. here so this insomniac needs to try to sleep so Goodnight to everyone going to bed and Good Morning to everyone getting up.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:03:50 AM
WOW that could be characteristic's of Many - Mixed UP in a Society Bowl

Characteristics of a sociopath are as followed:
 
1. Sociopaths are very charming.
2. Sociopaths can be extremely manipulative and will try to con you whenever possible.
3. Sociopaths feel that they are entitled to everything.
4. Sociopaths will lie continuously to get what they want. They can even sometimes manipulate a lie detector.
5. Sociopaths have no remorse, shame or guilt.
6. Sociopaths will show love and happiness only when it serves their purpose. None of the feelings are genuine.
7. Sociopaths have no room for love in their life.
8. Sociopaths need to have excitement in their lives or live on the edge.
9. Sociopaths have lack of empathy hen their victims suffer pain that they have caused.
10. Sociopaths believe that they are all mightier than tho, there is no concern on how their behavior impacts others.
11. Sociopaths usually have a long history of juvenile delinquency as well as behavior problems.
12. Sociopaths will never take blame for anything they have done to anyone no matter if it is family or friend.
13. Sociopaths have many sexual partners and tend to act out many sexual acts.
14. Sociopaths rarely stay in one place for a long time (home/work).
15. Sociopaths will change themselves if they know it will keep them from being found out.

Characteristics of a psychopath are as followed:

1. Psychopaths use superficial charm to lure their victims.
2. Psychopaths are extremely self-centered.
3. Psychopaths must always do something to keep themselves from boredom.
4. Psychopaths are very deceptive and tend to lie continuously.
5. Psychopaths show no remorse of guilt towards their victims.
6. Psychopaths are very predatory and usually will live off other people.
7. Psychopaths have many sexual partners in their lifetime.
8. Psychopaths are very impulsive with their lifestyle.
9. Psychopaths are always blaming other people for their actions.
10. Psychopaths never have a realistic view of their lives. (king of the world or from another planet)
11. Psychopaths always want psychological gratification in sexual and criminal activities.
12. Psychopaths tend to try suicide, rarely succeeding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 03:04:47 AM
you know it is odd how the ants speak and some of the phrases they use
but i got to thinking about this family i know, they are a lot like them ....all about appearences.  when in fact they are a bunch of freaks and make up their own reality.  one of the women in the family is one of the most outrageous liars i have ever met.  i was having a conversation with her mother one day and she said "Tammy tells false hoods", of please, i could not help it i busted out laughing.  i guess it made her feel better to say "false hoods" instead of my daughter is a BIG FAT EFFIN LIAR!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:07:29 AM
I add a whisper because its late

We Love Red

shhh




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:09:28 AM
I add a whisper because its late

We Love Red

shhh

Pappa is in the Cage .......... and that's always a Good thing



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:09:46 AM
For some reason Leesburg Rings a Bell and not because of LA

For me too????? Was that the Trenton Duckett case? ::MonkeyConfused::

I cant answer with baby Duckett ... I have no idea what so ever - Poor baby .. I pray he will be found ....

But I just wanted to say its so Nice to see my beautiful Friend Island Monkey .. I have missed u.


::MonkeyCool:: Why thank you~I have been so swamped with work this week and then too tired to do anything except lurk occasionally ::MonkeyConfused:: Plus this case is driving nutty with all the twist and turns, I made need to take up drinking before long.

I saw the answer after I posted (hadn't read all the way thru yet), but I also pray he will be found one day if nothing else but to know for sure...........so many missing kids, makes me want to keep mine on a long leash ::MonkeyTongue::

YOU are our Inner Peace Monkey and YOUR needed ... Just like Sea Searcher is our Light of Comedy ..the Man .. Monkey .. You are Very Much necessary even if you can only step in from to time to time - your always a Blessing ... its like a breeze of warm air in the Cage when you enter ...

I had to say it (((( Island Monkey ))))

Ahh~That is the sweetest post I've ever head Deenie  ::MonkeyWaa:: no breeze of warm air tonight......we are at 37 outside, time for Florida monkeys to pull out long undies and Uggs ::MonkeyTongue:: Are you located in the frozen parts?? If so, here ya go.......

Me Island Monkey ...today when I woke up * Friday it was 27 below Zero actual Temp - Hello ... and Sat is not to be but - WE hope for above Zero ... Yah it really is bitter cold. Its ok if the Sun is blazing .. seems to make it better ..but when your Lungs hurt after 4, 5 minutes just from breathin... Its Too Damn cold Sister.

I pray for all those who have no shelter tonite in my area - and for all my Fur Babies that I feed almost every day in my yard ... I feel bad that I skipped since the big snow fall .. I have not seen my Squirrels or my Birdies .. I know their there .. but it seems pointless to put their food out ..when its buried by snow or rots in the snow .. :( before they can find it and or eat it .....  Ugggh ... kills me


Ouch~I feel bad for whining, it seems like this has been one of the coldest winters for almost everyone else in yearssssssssssss. Come on down to the redneck riviera where our normal temp in the winter months is 65ish and warm up!

I know what you mean about feeding the strays, I had an outside cat due to allergies and everynight I would end up feeding 16 stray cats, a racoon and a possum when I lived in TN, but they all ate together and then would disappear during the day. Now that I moved away, I hope they found another outside cat to share with:(
Island Yah I worry about all the Fur Babies but too I worry about all the Homeless Humans and I pray for each and every one of them - for Yesterday and today and the next week. I live 15 mins from Downtown Detroit and I know for a fact that this Cold has taken many people by ... cold snap because it came out of nowhere. It has been cold and we have had tons of snow but never this Cold ..this is a Cold no Human could escape ..even one that is resourceful as a street person ... no way. One day You and I will have to exchange emails .. I really find you and your poems, photos .. remarkable. I must say ... lol ... We will have to meet up on the other boards within SM not on Caylee's time ..K.
:)

oxo K aka Deenie ... Deenie is my Puppy ...

Thank you~Like I've always said, I can't take credit for them as I am blessed to see this daily and only God can create such beauty-just snapping a photo is simple but appreciating the true simple things in life can become difficult for some, so I am so happy you enjoy them. I have a throw away addy pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com where we can also correspond or myspace listed below.

I worry about all the homeless in this weather also, I can't recall a time when it has been this cold for such an extended period of time EVER. I pray for relief for all you "cold monkeys" and all the fur, homeless and poor who can't afford to really heat their homes due to the expense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:11:04 AM
Goodnight, dear lovely Monkeys! :smt039

I love the picture of sweet little Peanut-kitty.  I will go to bed with the thought of Peanut curled up in a warm sleepy ball in Caylee's lap -- Peanut purring to beat the band, Caylee delighted to snuggle up with such a special little creature...



Nite Nite Sleep Tight DES  ::MonkeyWink::
Well, It's 3:00 A.M. here so this insomniac needs to try to sleep so Goodnight to everyone going to bed and Good Morning to everyone getting up.  ::MonkeyWink::

Nite Dottie~I need to head that way soon myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:17:25 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red

 ::MonkeyCool::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:23:40 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red  

 ::MonkeyCool:


I couldn't have said it better myself!!  SM is a gift that I treasure, so many smart posters, great mods, klaas is the best admin and well Red, he seems to have a great handle on EVERYTHING from missing children to politics.

O/T Luci is my puppy~she could easily keep a couple of people warm in the frozen tundra. I guess all this global warming caused the deep freeze ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:27:04 AM
Island I have your address - and I appreciate you posting it for me - ... Now it should be removed .. U think?  not from Monkeys but for all who can take it upon reading ... just because YOU are a monkey ...  I dont know if any mods are around ... but thank You,  YOU  remind of someone .. and we can discuss it .. not here - but its good, no worries.  :smt049


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:30:15 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red  

 ::MonkeyCool:


I couldn't have said it better myself!!  SM is a gift that I treasure, so many smart posters, great mods, klaas is the best admin and well Red, he seems to have a great handle on EVERYTHING from missing children to politics.

O/T Luci is my puppy~she could easily keep a couple of people warm in the frozen tundra. I guess all this global warming caused the deep freeze ::MonkeyHaHa::

What a beautiful doggy Baby .. See Island You are Blessed ... even then and more

Your a Great Gal and I can't wait to talk with you ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:31:38 AM
Island I have your address - and I appreciate you posting it for me - ... Now it should be removed .. U think?  not from Monkeys but for all who can take it upon reading ... just because YOU are a monkey ...  I dont know if any mods are around ... but thank You,  YOU  remind of someone .. and we can discuss it .. not here - but its good, no worries.  :smt049

Thanks for worrying, but it's a toss away that I use just for times like this. Who do I remind you of??

Back on topic, the A's, Bozo and Crasy make me feel so "not peaceful" some time, kinda like this......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:35:13 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red  

 ::MonkeyCool:


I couldn't have said it better myself!!  SM is a gift that I treasure, so many smart posters, great mods, klaas is the best admin and well Red, he seems to have a great handle on EVERYTHING from missing children to politics.

O/T Luci is my puppy~she could easily keep a couple of people warm in the frozen tundra. I guess all this global warming caused the deep freeze ::MonkeyHaHa::

What a beautiful doggy Baby .. See Island You are Blessed ... even then and more

Your a Great Gal and I can't wait to talk with you ..

Yes, she's close to a 200lb fur baby!!!

I DO feel blessed everyday, and not because of material things but because I have learned to find inner peace and contentment. I look forward to chatting with you too ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:39:04 AM
Island I have your address - and I appreciate you posting it for me - ... Now it should be removed .. U think?  not from Monkeys but for all who can take it upon reading ... just because YOU are a monkey ...  I dont know if any mods are around ... but thank You,  YOU  remind of someone .. and we can discuss it .. not here - but its good, no worries.  :smt049

Thanks for worrying, but it's a toss away that I use just for times like this. Who do I remind you of??

Back on topic, the A's, Bozo and Crasy make me feel so "not peaceful" some time, kinda like this......

I am now Worrying about YOU cuz I have never seen You offer  a .. Doggy Soprano Pose  ... whew Island ...

YOU went from Peace to Dog's ma  - is going to Take you Ants out ... lol



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:46:29 AM
Island I have your address - and I appreciate you posting it for me - ... Now it should be removed .. U think?  not from Monkeys but for all who can take it upon reading ... just because YOU are a monkey ...  I dont know if any mods are around ... but thank You,  YOU  remind of someone .. and we can discuss it .. not here - but its good, no worries.  :smt049

Thanks for worrying, but it's a toss away that I use just for times like this. Who do I remind you of??

Back on topic, the A's, Bozo and Crasy make me feel so "not peaceful" some time, kinda like this......

I am now Worrying about YOU cuz I have never seen You offer  a .. Doggy Soprano Pose  ... whew Island ...

YOU went from Peace to Dog's ma  - is going to Take you Ants out ... lol



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~that's the way this twisted case gets to me sometimes, plus I found that pic who knows where and I have been dying to use it because it cracked me up ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 03:47:35 AM
have i entered the twilight zone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:47:58 AM
you know it is odd how the ants speak and some of the phrases they use
but i got to thinking about this family i know, they are a lot like them ....all about appearences.  when in fact they are a bunch of freaks and make up their own reality.  one of the women in the family is one of the most outrageous liars i have ever met.  i was having a conversation with her mother one day and she said "Tammy tells false hoods", of please, i could not help it i busted out laughing.  i guess it made her feel better to say "false hoods" instead of my daughter is a BIG FAT EFFIN LIAR!

JuJu your more than right on - and everything that they ever say on Camera is - always said again in opposite ... and has been said over and over and flipped over and over ...

And now they Want Immunity ... Um I am with you .. nothing is right. If it were you or I that had a child of our family missing we would do everything in our power to Find them .. or to find aid to help us ..and work within the offerings of Others Every Day and BE thankful for them helping .. like TES

But then that would be of a Normal Person who is not involved with the Missing ..

It goes without saying ... doesnt it Juju


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 03:51:34 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red  

 ::MonkeyCool:


I couldn't have said it better myself!!  SM is a gift that I treasure, so many smart posters, great mods, klaas is the best admin and well Red, he seems to have a great handle on EVERYTHING from missing children to politics.

O/T Luci is my puppy~she could easily keep a couple of people warm in the frozen tundra. I guess all this global warming caused the deep freeze ::MonkeyHaHa::


Island why I mentioned RED was because HE was IN the Monkey CAGE - RED was for about Ten mins in the Cage .. just so you know ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 03:53:00 AM
Red I promised you info on some things and I wanted so much to talk with you about- I have alot on my plate due to I am in my own Monkey renovation of my House - so I sent my info to BooMonkey and she went on from what small pieces I gathered and She herself did 100 times more work and has ... been doing a lot ..On her own. So I just want you to know that my email to you was not false or undaunted. My Monkey faith rules.. and I appreciate being a part of SM .. you have a site made up of Incredible People.

I hope You read this - cuz in this World today - Faith in every day people ..as we once knew Sly and the Family Stone.. is a corner mart .. One out of ever some in reality ..But here at SM you can find them on every post...  Props to Red  

 ::MonkeyCool:


I couldn't have said it better myself!!  SM is a gift that I treasure, so many smart posters, great mods, klaas is the best admin and well Red, he seems to have a great handle on EVERYTHING from missing children to politics.

O/T Luci is my puppy~she could easily keep a couple of people warm in the frozen tundra. I guess all this global warming caused the deep freeze ::MonkeyHaHa::


Island why I mentioned RED was because HE was IN the Monkey CAGE - RED was for about Ten mins in the Cage .. just so you know ...

Oh~I noticed ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2009, 04:00:20 AM
  ::MonkeyCool:: Night Monkeys, time for me to hit the sack...........see ya tomorrow, I mean later today ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 04:02:35 AM
you know it is odd how the ants speak and some of the phrases they use
but i got to thinking about this family i know, they are a lot like them ....all about appearences.  when in fact they are a bunch of freaks and make up their own reality.  one of the women in the family is one of the most outrageous liars i have ever met.  i was having a conversation with her mother one day and she said "Tammy tells false hoods", of please, i could not help it i busted out laughing.  i guess it made her feel better to say "false hoods" instead of my daughter is a BIG FAT EFFIN LIAR!

JuJu your more than right on - and everything that they ever say on Camera is - always said again in opposite ... and has been said over and over and flipped over and over ...

And now they Want Immunity ... Um I am with you .. nothing is right. If it were you or I that had a child of our family missing we would do everything in our power to Find them .. or to find aid to help us ..and work within the offerings of Others Every Day and BE thankful for them helping .. like TES

But then that would be of a Normal Person who is not involved with the Missing ..

It goes without saying ... doesnt it Juju

Juju the thing is we can banter and talk all we want and say everything what we want - Even nutty thoughts of conspiracy .. but what it all comes down to is and YOU know just like every other Monkey in this room .. We only one thing and that is the End Result .. For Caylee to be acknowledged, For her to finally have a place within this Universe that is
Caylee not just a video or a bunch of photo's
Caylee in her years ..what she only knows is .. being a baby with imagination, learning what things are around her such as music, touch, sound, foods that really taste good ... Fun ... being Alive and chattering because its what I do because I am.. just experiencing LIFE every day is Amusement ... for a child at that age ..  having attention, having someone respond to me and having play is work and .. NO I never wanted to be someone's trophy ... I never wanted to be any one But Caylee ... Why Juju was that so hard for the Adults in her Family to understand ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 04:04:36 AM
yes it does Deenie....i probably need to step out for a bit because this is really getting to me.  of course all normal people would have called the police immediately if they went to pick their child from the sitters and they were gone and the phone was shut off.  i was in chucke cheese with mine one day and my 2 year old was out of site for a second and i freaked out...made them lock the doors and the whole deal....thank God he was fine....he liked to hide, he is 26 and still a clown.  sorry i will quit rambling


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 04:05:27 AM
  ::MonkeyCool:: Night Monkeys, time for me to hit the sack...........see ya tomorrow, I mean later today ::MonkeyTongue::
I will find Ms Island ... soon  :smt049 via mail ....... promise .. I am up this late due to yet another quandary of my contractors.... its what I call ... wgas ... at this point .. sorry I am a bit angry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 04:06:25 AM
this while family is floating down denial. they cant even acknowledge that shes in an effin jail. george say to her ' you know there arent many people whove had the opportunity to stay where you are...'. uh have i missed something? is she staying at the plaza? and caset says when talking about her poor lonely victim self that she 'stayed in her 'room'. cell...its a dump of a small cell with a toilet in plain view of everyone. *shakes head*

in all aspects i guess reality is not a close friend of theirs. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 04:07:45 AM
yes it does Deenie....i probably need to step out for a bit because this is really getting to me.  of course all normal people would have called the police immediately if they went to pick their child from the sitters and they were gone and the phone was shut off.  i was in chucke cheese with mine one day and my 2 year old was out of site for a second and i freaked out...made them lock the doors and the whole deal....thank God he was fine....he liked to hide, he is 26 and still a clown.  sorry i will quit rambling
Juju Your Not Rambling ... your a Mom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
yes it does Deenie....i probably need to step out for a bit because this is really getting to me.  of course all normal people would have called the police immediately if they went to pick their child from the sitters and they were gone and the phone was shut off.  i was in chucke cheese with mine one day and my 2 year old was out of site for a second and i freaked out...made them lock the doors and the whole deal....thank God he was fine....he liked to hide, he is 26 and still a clown.  sorry i will quit rambling
Juju Your Not Rambling ... your a Mom

Juju I am concerned though that you have a 26 yr old lost within a Chuckie Cheese .. I see that he is really two yrs old ... I am not sure where the 6 adds in .. I am laughing at the thought of a 26 yr old being lost in Chuckie Cheese ..not at you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 04:12:56 AM
goodnight all...go get some sleep!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Deenie on January 17, 2009, 04:14:24 AM
goodnight all...go get some sleep!

Nite Juju Bee .. and I love your bill the cat .... I am going too my sister ... Nigh Nigh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: JuJu on January 17, 2009, 04:18:12 AM
yes it does Deenie....i probably need to step out for a bit because this is really getting to me.  of course all normal people would have called the police immediately if they went to pick their child from the sitters and they were gone and the phone was shut off.  i was in chucke cheese with mine one day and my 2 year old was out of site for a second and i freaked out...made them lock the doors and the whole deal....thank God he was fine....he liked to hide, he is 26 and still a clown.  sorry i will quit rambling
Juju Your Not Rambling ... your a Mom

Juju I am concerned though that you have a 26 yr old lost within a Chuckie Cheese .. I see that he is really two yrs old ... I am not sure where the 6 adds in .. I am laughing at the thought of a 26 yr old being lost in Chuckie Cheese ..not at you

LOL..he was 2 at the time that happened...he is now 26


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 06:26:06 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 06:40:29 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.


Self edit because for some reason it didn't all post.This is in response to some earlier post about sociopath verses psychopath and anti-social personality disorder.  If you study each disorder you will see that they are all very closely related and are often times even very hard even for psychiatrist to differentiate between the disorders.  There is extensive assements that would need to be done, testing (MMPI etc.), psychoanalysis by psychiatrist, complete background analysis etc. to be able to exactly pinpoint the disorder.  Even then it is highly likely that different psychiatrist will have different conclusions. There is still so much about the brain that is unknown and it is a very confusing and frustrating process.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 06:43:37 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 06:57:41 AM
Good morning Today and Dottie and early morning Monkeys. 

Great post Dottie.  I think either fit KC quite well.  The most common diagnosis I have seen in my work is a Borderline Personality Disorder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 07:48:43 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 07:49:51 AM
Hi Monkeys,

Have to get this off my chest.  Just wondering if anyone else has had this thought.   Listening to the meter reader something he said caught my attention.  I can't quote verbatum but he said something about a fallen tree branch and a board across it.  Is it possible that Casey hung Caylee from that tree and than put her in the bag?  Not sure how the car trunk would fit into this but just couldn't shake the feeling. 
Yeah, I have mentioned that earlier because it is sounds exactly the same as the bent over trunk branch with a bit of whiteboard nailed to it that can be seen in the D.Casey vid. This imo should clear the policeman because he was obviously taken to the WRONG area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 07:58:13 AM
NANCY GRACE  January 16, 2009

 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/16/ng.01.html)
Quote
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Also tonight, a 6-year-old boy goes missing without a trace in southwest Florida. The little boy cannot verbally communicate and has the mind of a 2-year-old. The search growing more desperate by the hour. Tonight, what happened to 6-year-old Adji?
The Adji thread on SM (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.0)

Quote
DREW PETRIMOULX, WDBO: Well, it`s basically an oversight. That`s what jail officials are saying, that they should have been released with video that were released a while back, but they weren`t. And yet you see in these videos, she`s really painting herself as a victim. She said the media and the sheriff`s office are out to get her. She even mentions the NANCY GRACE show by name. She says that her attorney, Jose Baez, showed her an episode and she couldn`t believe how -- the things that were being said about her and her mother.

This tape supposedly had some sort of police misconduct. That was one of the defense motions that they were asking for this tape to be released because it was going to show some sort of police misconduct.

Quote
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Pat Brown, you`re the criminal profiler. Isn`t she essentially saying here that she`s afraid to talk because she might slip and say something incriminating?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Oh, yes, Jane, she is. And what she`s really upset about is she wants to be, as she said, seen as a victim, not that she is one, but she wants to be seen as victim and that`s what she`s upset about, that out in TV land and now out in NANCY GRACE land, it`s not happening. We`re seeing her for what she really is.

Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Well, I just today, after days and days of saying I got to go check my phone bills -- it was the 12th that I talked to Jose for the first time. I don`t know whether he had mentioned it by the 14th to her at all. I do know that he told me, This evening, I`m going to New York or somewhere. And then we talked several times after that on his cell phone and made arrangements to fly back there that Sunday.

But tell you something that`s even more. Remember what she says to somebody -- or she was whispering to Jose when she got out of jail that time and she or somebody said, I want to walk out of here with my head held up high? That`s not what she said. She told Tracy, she said, Get me the "F" out of here.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: So she is concerned, Natisha Lance, about how she`s perceived. We had heard she didn`t watch television from jail. Now it turns out she is very curious about how she`s portrayed.

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s how it sounds, Jane. And we do remember that Jose Baez did say that he had gone in with Casey and so that she could have a good laugh. And he was showing her some of the reports that had been done about her, including this one, apparently, about the NANCY GRACE show. So it`s very interesting now to see that she`s upset about this. She`s very -- you can see all the emotion on her, but you also see the emotion from her parents, which is a little disturbing, in my opinion.

Quote
I want to go out to Dr. Keri Peterson, who is a doctor of internal medicine at Lenox Hill Hospital. Why no burial yet, Doctor? The family had said they would bury this child after the second autopsy was completed. That second autopsy reportedly has been completed, so what could be left?

DR. KERI PETERSON, PHYSICIAN: Well, from reports, I think that what they`re looking at is the DNA a little more deeply to see if they can uncover any underlying genetic conditions. And also the bones -- see, they haven`t released the autopsy reports, but you can extract from the bones some information about what caused this homicide. For example, if there is chloroform present in the bones, that can be determined through analysis.

And in addition, I think there was something about a snake that they were looking at. Perhaps there`s some remains inside a dead snake that they may be looking at to see if they can tie it into the body.

Quote
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED LOOK FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: We didn`t know any of this at the time when we went back there, when we bailed her out. I, myself, Rob, Tracy, we all thought, the baby is alive. She`s tired of being over-parented. She`ll tell us.

The next day after we got her out, I sat down with her. It took me about - - 15 minutes to realize that I wasn`t going to get any further than anybody else had with this young lady. I didn`t know about the discussions she`d had with Allan or any of the other detectives.

And when I told her that I didn`t come 3,000 miles and leave my Chihuahua behind in order to put up with this BS, she says, get out of my house. She`s not going to talk to me like a cop.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 07:59:40 AM
Link for Nancy Grace transcripts for those who want it.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/16/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: MuffyBee on January 17, 2009, 08:03:02 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:04:30 AM
Ok I watched part of the video, as much as I could stand.  I have never seen three people talk about nothing for so long.  And George, play like this is a job and you are the boss???  Omg.  Then mom, ok I cant deal with this, talk to your dad????    Good grief!!!  Oklay I have to go make cornbread to go with the soup beans.  Please, you guys think about me flying tomorrow after this plane crash.  Ok??????
I was trying to find you a reassuring flying smiley but instead I came across a smiley made on the image of Casey's personality.
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Hope you have a good flight! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:06:41 AM
Today,thanks for  highlighting NG.
I find the snake part interesting.
LP talking about leaving his chihuahua cracks me up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
What about the genetic tesing?


Good Morning Muffy   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 08:07:19 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys
You're up bright and early also.  Hope you are feeling better and recovering from your pneumonia.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:08:47 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys
Good Morning MuffyBee and everyone else in the cage.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharon on January 17, 2009, 08:09:26 AM
Not sure if posted yet;

http://caseyanthonycase.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/anthony%e2%80%99s-still-selling-missing-toddler-t-shirts/

Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts
Posted by express on January 16, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.


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VIDEO: Missing toddler tshirts still being sold


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 “I don’t think they should be profiting, I think it’s wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as ” they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G’s announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts.”

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale.

Source:   FOX 35 News Orlando Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 08:12:33 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 08:22:01 AM
Today,thanks for  highlighting NG.
I find the snake part interesting.
LP talking about leaving his chihuahua cracks me up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
What about the genetic tesing?


Good Morning Muffy   ::MonkeyTongue::
Genetic testing allows the genetic diagnosis of vulnerabilities to inherited diseases. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_testing)

I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:23:32 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.




Wow those symptoms are eerily close to a family member. I've got to say that people say alot that George and Cindy handle Casey badly but I know that if they handled her any differently they would be talking to and empty booth. Sure maybe they could have done things better in the past but now I don't think they have much choice anymore if they want to keep- her talking. I really don't see that Baez can claim that this vid showed the police had been untoward in any way so I just don't know what he thought they'd done. Makes you wonder what stories Casey has been telling him hey.
I am still catching up and I wondered if there was any more info on the Annie and (ZG)Casey go for a drive scenario?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:23:45 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:27:15 AM
Thanks Today. I was thinking the same thing.Can we say grasping at straws?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/16/ijvm.01.html)
Aired January 16, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:31:28 AM
Today,thanks for  highlighting NG.
I find the snake part interesting.
LP talking about leaving his chihuahua cracks me up.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
What about the genetic tesing?


Good Morning Muffy   ::MonkeyTongue::
Genetic testing allows the genetic diagnosis of vulnerabilities to inherited diseases. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_testing)

I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.
You are probably right but I think another reason they are keeping Casey from being cremated yet is because the defense hasn't gotten all the results from the prosecutions tests back and theywant to refute anything that might be detrimental to them so they want the option to retest. The frustrating thing is they could keep a smal portion for sampling and let his baby have the burial and sendoff she deserves. Poor Caylee has been forgotten by the defense team in all of this and that will look bad for them at trial imo.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:32:45 AM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.



Hey monkeys.Do any of you know anything about this?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:36:15 AM
Sharon,I read that last night. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I do think they should close that sale.disgusting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 17, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
The snake mention on NG last night really got me thinking because it made it sound like someone kept the dead snake for one thing. However what really came to mind was "what if" that snake died from chloroform ingestion or something that killed Caylee? I am still wondering if they really kept the snake to test.

(sorry if already discussed ..I haven't had time to read all of last nights postings)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:43:28 AM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.



Hey monkeys.Do any of you know anything about this?  ::MonkeyCool::
No I don't sorry, he was very tightlipped about it though!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 17, 2009, 08:44:00 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

LOL, ITA, and I believe you will get your wish  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 08:48:24 AM
I know it is being said this lastest video wasn't released earlier due to a clerical error - but I can't help think that it was a strategic move on behave of the prosectution.  It is just a fresh reminder of how truly sick Casey is.

I hope there are more clerical errors.   ::MonkeyWink::

LOL, ITA, and I believe you will get your wish  ::cartwheel::


I hope so.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 17, 2009, 08:49:57 AM
Doesnt Casey still have the rights over Caylee's remains?  Could she be holding up the burial?

I believe she signed over rights to Jose

ITA, a complete POA I am sure, thus, his ability to get paid from a girl without so much as an ATM card. Well, other than her daughter of course.

Bitter, party of one, my table's ready..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 17, 2009, 08:50:56 AM
Good saturday morning Monkey's.It's -3 degrees here in Detroit   ::MonkeyEek::

Quote
LuckyCharms wrote:

I do not believe that Casey could have had any disciplinary action to change her course of behavior. Sociopaths are about 4% of the population while psychopaths are only about 1%, the number is increasingly smaller when you talk about homicidal behavior. Sociopaths live among us, they work with us, they go to church with us, they cut our hair, they dispense our medication, they prepare our taxes, they work on our root canals and they handle our finances. Many of them will never murder anyone or anything. These are the types of sociopaths that are highlighed in The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout. We marry them, divorce them, fight for custody with them, and all the while, we might never know it. People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders.

If G & C had been more aware of Casey's behavoirs while she was a child they could have prevented her future behavior to a certain extent. However, parents tend to justify and think of it as a passing phase. We've heard Cindy confess that she believed Casey was a sociopath. It's not a term we use loosely because a child has stressed us out or had days of behavior where they acted up. Cindy has known for awhile that Casey has 'something' that is not like all the other kids. Rather than acknowledge it, she did her best to hide it, even going as far as covering up any misdoings by Casey. As we see now, at age 22, Cindy is still defending Casey.

Casey could not be taught responsibility or empathy or guilt or love. If you can imagine being born without nerve endings. You couldn't feel a fluffy dog, a soft pillow or the heat if you got to close to a stove. That would be strange for us, right?  Casey was born without nerve endings (feelings/emotions/conscience). It is why she can't form any connections to anyone. That is why she lives her life in a fantasy rather than reality. She sees other people working, having fun, enjoying life but she can't. She cannot experience great job or the worst heartache. But she has to look like she is all of those things in order to be accepted. Now that we can unravel her lies we can glimpse into the mind of a very disturbed person.

If you go back and read some of her texts to Amy, she is talking about a breakup around May 3. She is over it pretty quickly as by the 4th, she is already talking about going out to meet more boys, as she calls them. This is why she can loose one relationship and on to the next in minutes. This is why she saw Caylee as disposable. She was upset, probably out of control over the fight she and Cindy had on the 15th. She killed Caylee in a rage. Now it was just a matter of hiding her so that she didn't have to be reminded of the burden. When she sees G & C on Aug 14th, she doesn't understand why Cindy is so upset, after all, she's done the best she can. This is why she didn't do anything to find Caylee after she was released on her 1st bond. In her mind, it was over, finished, time to move on. She can't make the connection between everyone else missing Caylee and her disposing of something that was in her way. So, long story short, there was nothing anyone could do.


I like how you explained this LuckyCharms.Does anyone know if Casey is diagnosed as a sociopath,would that work in her favor at trial(if it goes to trial)?Would that diagnoses get her life in a mental hospital?
Also I want to thank Blink for the very eye opening front page post....great job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 08:56:21 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 08:56:29 AM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.



Hey monkeys.Do any of you know anything about this?  ::MonkeyCool::
No I don't sorry, he was very tightlipped about it though!
ETA:Conway says it wasn't related to the murder investigation. Conway also said that he doesn't represent anyone in this case except G&C.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharon on January 17, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Sharon,I read that last night. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I do think they should close that sale.disgusting.

I agree. Disgusting.

And so blatant  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This should have stopped once the bones were identified (actually, way way way before that)

imo



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 09:00:47 AM

I like how you explained this LuckyCharms.Does anyone know if Casey is diagnosed as a sociopath,would that work in her favor at trial(if it goes to trial)?Would that diagnoses get her life in a mental hospital?
Also I want to thank Blink for the very eye opening front page post....great job!

I personally think that if Baez intends to seek some sort of mental defect defense, he needs to get him some experts in there.  They need to spend time with her and administer tests.  She, as far as we know, has never had mental health treatment.  This would be a hard defense to take without a lot of time from a doctor spending time with her.  I understood that a sociopath understood right from wrong but just lacked the ability to care.  I don't think this would work as a defense.  JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 09:03:17 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 17, 2009, 09:03:36 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?
http://www.wjhg.com/national/headlines/36162709.html (http://www.wjhg.com/national/headlines/36162709.html)

It was always reported that her bones were scattered from what I have seen. You have to remember....Greta, Furman, Geraldo, etc are all on the Anthony Train(wreck). I just don't put alot they say as true but as trying to help defense.

I guess when it goes to trial we will her exactly which is true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:06:32 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?
I think she is wrong. Greta seems to be wrong about a few things to do with this cas and I think she just hasn't done her homework. She also seemed to not realise that a second autopsy had been done and I noted that she wasn't corrected either. I think maybe some of the larger bones were intact in the bag but we know they were on there hands and knees sorting through the dirt for those bones and have even admitted that they were unable to recover the whole skeleton. She is full of chit imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 17, 2009, 09:09:19 AM
According to Greta and Conway, the police were at the Anthony's home today and Conway claims it did NOT have to do with the murder investigation.



Hey monkeys.Do any of you know anything about this?  ::MonkeyCool::
No I don't sorry, he was very tightlipped about it though!
ETA:Conway says it wasn't related to the murder investigation. Conway also said that he doesn't represent anyone in this case except G&C.
Actions speak louder than words on him. Why was he sitting at the defense table in court last week part of the time? Wasn't this a defense motion (Baez) hearing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 17, 2009, 09:09:52 AM
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LUCKYCHARMSPRINCESS: I really appreciate your input; but I respectfully disagree with your statement: "People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders"
According to Robert Hare Phd, author of "Without Conscience" , creator of the "Psychopathy Checklist" & the world's leading authority on psychopathy:

Many researchers, clinicians, and writers use the terms psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. Sometimes the term sociopathy is used because it is less likely than is psychopathy to be confused with psychoticism or insanity. In many cases the choice of term reflects the user's views on the origins and determinents of the clinical syndrome or disorder described in this book. Thus, some clinicians and researchers--as well as most sociologists and criminologists--who believe that the syndrome is forged entirely by social forces and early experiences prefer the term sociopath, whereas those--including this writer--who feel that psychological, biological, and genetic factors also contribute to development of the syndrome generally use the term psychopath. The same individual  therefore could be diagnosed as a sociopath by one expert and as a psychopath by  another.

He does take issue with interchanging the term anti-social personality disorder with both of these believing that anti-social does not cover all aspects of psychopathy. Anti-social defined by; a cluster of criminal and anti-social behaviors & psychopathy defined by; a cluster of both personality traits and socially deviant behaviors(as defined in DSM IV, the psychology bible.

CONDUCT DISORDER is the term used to define individuals, with this syndrome, who are under age 18.


Got company coming, will try to be back later. If not, nite all!  ::MonkeyRoll::


KUDOS TO BLINK: MONKEYS RULE!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Monken,

Dr. Hare is a well renouned leader in the defining and application of psychopathic personalities, you are certainly right about that and I do not disagree there. I'm only pointing out that while there are characteristics that are the very similiar, the manifestations of these characteristics are very different. I know you might disagree with me there too but Dr. Hare comes from a background in psychophysiology, I do not. :)

A lot of people have called Casey, Pathological Liar, Dissociative Personality, Borderline Personality, Asperger's Syndrome, Narcississtic Personality and on and on. Without a full psychological exam, no one will know for sure until history is disclosed. Recently psychologists have been calling sociopathic "anti-social personality disorder" by the DSM IV, and many psychs have said it is too broad of a definition. As you know, the more we learn about brain chemistry and the more people there are to study with these disorders, the better chance we will have to categorize them more succintly. The world of psychology and psychiatry is opinionated because the human mind has so many facets and so many facets yet to discover.

Prior to what we knew about her......I think people saw Casey as 'normal looking' (in her photos with Caylee) and have a hard time wrapping their head around how such an evil mind can come in such a normal looking package.

I included the site for this info in case anyone would like to read the entire article. Everyone will interpret Casey's behavior based on how they see her fit into the categories below. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1013712/sociopath_vs_psychopath_the_differences.html

Characteristics of a sociopath are as followed:
 

1. Sociopaths are very charming.
2. Sociopaths can be extremely manipulative and will try to con you whenever possible.
3. Sociopaths feel that they are entitled to everything.
4. Sociopaths will lie continuously to get what they want. They can even sometimes manipulate a lie detector.
5. Sociopaths have no remorse, shame or guilt.
6. Sociopaths will show love and happiness only when it serves their purpose. None of the feelings are genuine.
7. Sociopaths have no room for love in their life.
8. Sociopaths need to have excitement in their lives or live on the edge.
9. Sociopaths have lack of empathy hen their victims suffer pain that they have caused.
10. Sociopaths believe that they are all mightier than tho, there is no concern on how their behavior impacts others.
11. Sociopaths usually have a long history of juvenile delinquency as well as behavior problems.
12. Sociopaths will never take blame for anything they have done to anyone no matter if it is family or friend.
13. Sociopaths have many sexual partners and tend to act out many sexual acts.
14. Sociopaths rarely stay in one place for a long time (home/work).
15. Sociopaths will change themselves if they know it will keep them from being found out.

Characteristics of a psychopath are as followed:

1. Psychopaths use superficial charm to lure their victims.
2. Psychopaths are extremely self-centered.
3. Psychopaths must always do something to keep themselves from boredom.
4. Psychopaths are very deceptive and tend to lie continuously.
5. Psychopaths show no remorse of guilt towards their victims.
6. Psychopaths are very predatory and usually will live off other people.
7. Psychopaths have many sexual partners in their lifetime.
8. Psychopaths are very impulsive with their lifestyle.
9. Psychopaths are always blaming other people for their actions.
10. Psychopaths never have a realistic view of their lives. (king of the world or from another planet)
11. Psychopaths always want psychological gratification in sexual and criminal activities.
12. Psychopaths tend to try suicide, rarely succeeding.

Enjoy your company!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Casey is obviously a psychopath. It upsets me a lot to hear people confuse her with a "Borderline" personality, because for one thing "Borderline" is a kind of meaningless diagnosis--it's just an immature person with suicidal tendencies.  And Asperger's people are just bad at reading body language or understanding what kinds of things another person wants to listen to--the opposite of manipulative--they couldn't manipulate someone to save their lives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 09:10:06 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?
http://www.wjhg.com/national/headlines/36162709.html (http://www.wjhg.com/national/headlines/36162709.html)

It was always reported that her bones were scattered from what I have seen. You have to remember....Greta, Furman, Geraldo, etc are all on the Anthony Train(wreck). I just don't put alot they say as true but as trying to help defense.

I guess when it goes to trial we will her exactly which is true.

Yes, thanks OriginalKat -- I sat there amazed she would say that when it is completely false.  But, better yet, Geraldo, last week said something completely false regarding Kronk and he should be sued for it.  Why Fox keeps him on is beyond me.  How many people watch his show?  Well, I am off for some grocery shopping.  All, please keep warm and have a great day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 17, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure

Yes, they went to HS together, I think there are 2 more HS friends of KC in that "hood", I dont find it unusual that Kio would have family there. Based on her interview, she was quite close with a few of the neighbors. For me, all roads "Zenaida" lead to the Sawgrass and the citations on 5/24/08. Your never getting around the fact a real ZG visited there, and her cell numbered linked back, kids and car matched, and Casey is searching her CPU for a Zenaida and clicks on a myspace on 6/12/08.

She is feverishly searching the whitepages for a ZG profile in the wee hours of 7/16, so we know she had some "knowledge" of where some are listed. SHe takes LE to 2 places IIRC, saying that was where she dropped Caylee off and then finally to Sawgrass, where the rest is history.. That tells me either she or someone she knew there had knowledge and she went there as a last resort, imo..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 17, 2009, 09:15:50 AM
I'll try the last part one more time. KC took LE to a complex and pointed to a condo and said it was where Zani's  relative lived but the person that really lived in that place was one of Kio Marie's relative's
I think that Kio Marie and Annie are going to be Crucial  when this all comes to Trial = If Kio Marie's testimony can be used ..since she has been printed in every gossip rag ..

Des- I agree, I think Kio is important to connect some dots, and now since Caylee was found where she was.. But I think the SA will lay low on her because Baez is going to come out swinging on her for the reasons you mentioned.

I completely agree on Annie. Remember early in the first jail visits Cindy and Casey spoke of her lovingly?
Casey is bonded out and Annie's hat gets shredded and thrown in the trash... Why?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 09:17:25 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?

Yep.  I watched it, also.   I wanted to throw something at the television.   I guess that is what Baez is telling everyone on Fox to say?    I swear it seems like Fox is working for the Defense of Casey!       ::MonkeyNoNo::

By the way - Morning everyone!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 09:18:37 AM
Pooky.Sorry I just saw your reply(reading last nights posts).I remember it like you and Originalkat.Is Greata crazy or rooting for the Anthonys.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:20:30 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Fuzzball on January 17, 2009, 09:20:32 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.


None of this sounds remotely like Casey. She doesn't have low self-esteem. Cindy might be histrionic or borderline, definitely. But Casey's main problem is that she lacks empathy, has a huge sense of entitlement, and has a cruel streak. I don't think she's rejecting others before they can reject her. She uses people then dumps them when they're no longer useful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 09:23:09 AM
I couldn't help myself.  Some information on rattlesnakes.  There are three main types found in Florida, Dusky Pygmy Rattlesnake, Eastern Diamond-backed Rattlesnake and Timber Rattlesnake. 

An interesting piece on eating habits.

SCAVENGING BY SNAKES: AN EXAMINATION OF THE LITERATURE (http://www.bioone.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1655%2F0018-0831(2002)058%5B0429%3ASBSAEO%5D2.0.CO%3B2)

Although it is widely known that most species of snakes readily accept carrion in captivity, the notion of scavenging by wild snakes historically has been rejected or ignored. Herein, we review the literature describing instances of scavenging by snakes and consider the implications of carrion (http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=carrion) use on their ecology. Thirty-nine published accounts yielded 50 observations of scavenging by snakes (43 from field observations and seven from laboratory studies). Thirty-five species from five families were represented, but pitvipers and piscivorous snakes were represented more frequently than other groups. Scavenged material varied widely and included rodents, birds, fish, frogs, and snakes. Olfaction appears to be the overriding sensory modality used for carrion detection. Some species may use scavenging as a deliberate feeding strategy that supplements their regular modes of prey acquisition. Additional knowledge of the scavenging behavior of snakes should provide new insights into the fundamentals of the ecology of snakes.

So it looks like snakes do eat carrion.  Whether the types of rattlers in Florida do is not clear from the information I found.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Blink34 on January 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM

I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.

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Very sharp insight Today, ITA.

Although I am not aware what affliction causes one to wrap duct tape around your child's head covering both breathing avenues.
Yeesh that guy already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 09:27:10 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:31:02 AM
I'll try the last part one more time. KC took LE to a complex and pointed to a condo and said it was where Zani's  relative lived but the person that really lived in that place was one of Kio Marie's relative's
I think that Kio Marie and Annie are going to be Crucial  when this all comes to Trial = If Kio Marie's testimony can be used ..since she has been printed in every gossip rag ..

Des- I agree, I think Kio is important to connect some dots, and now since Caylee was found where she was.. But I think the SA will lay low on her because Baez is going to come out swinging on her for the reasons you mentioned.

I completely agree on Annie. Remember early in the first jail visits Cindy and Casey spoke of her lovingly?
Casey is bonded out and Annie's hat gets shredded and thrown in the trash... Why?
She did act as though Aniie was great to her parents but when Lee was asking who he could trust Annie got a NO.  She knew Annie had something on her she was just hoping Annie would stay quiet imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:35:10 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.
Sassy I am from Australia and wouldn't know how to go about notifying them but I sure would feel better if someone did. It has been bothering me ever since I noticed it. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 09:36:04 AM

I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.


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Very sharp insight Today, ITA.

Although I am not aware what affliction causes one to wrap duct tape around your child's head covering both breathing avenues.
Yeesh that guy already.

It works if you believe that she panicked and staged for the kidnap theory - one possible theory the defense might use.  I think its a fishing expedition by defense, a possible - throw at wall and see what sticks.  Just the fact that they are possibly looking at underlying genetic conditions is very telling.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 09:39:27 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.

Could it even be used as evidence at this point by the prosecution?  Chain of custody and all that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 09:42:04 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.
Sassy I am from Australia and wouldn't know how to go about notifying them but I sure would feel better if someone did. It has been bothering me ever since I noticed it. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh.   I didn't know you were from Australia!     ::MonkeyCool::

I have a feeling LE reads everything posted here, but maybe someone who has Yuri's email addy should send it.   
I think they should know about it, if they don't already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:43:04 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.
Sassy I am from Australia and wouldn't know how to go about notifying them but I sure would feel better if someone did. It has been bothering me ever since I noticed it. ::MonkeyNoNo::
ETA- http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 09:43:52 AM
Deenie... I'm trying to catch up, you guys are fast when I'm asleep, but I wanted to respond to your post, yes I do remember that video, I remember watching it, and thinking he was a very believable kid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 09:55:49 AM
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LUCKYCHARMSPRINCESS: I really appreciate your input; but I respectfully disagree with your statement: "People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders"
According to Robert Hare Phd, author of "Without Conscience" , creator of the "Psychopathy Checklist" & the world's leading authority on psychopathy:

Many researchers, clinicians, and writers use the terms psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. Sometimes the term sociopathy is used because it is less likely than is psychopathy to be confused with psychoticism or insanity. In many cases the choice of term reflects the user's views on the origins and determinents of the clinical syndrome or disorder described in this book. Thus, some clinicians and researchers--as well as most sociologists and criminologists--who believe that the syndrome is forged entirely by social forces and early experiences prefer the term sociopath, whereas those--including this writer--who feel that psychological, biological, and genetic factors also contribute to development of the syndrome generally use the term psychopath. The same individual  therefore could be diagnosed as a sociopath by one expert and as a psychopath by  another.

He does take issue with interchanging the term anti-social personality disorder with both of these believing that anti-social does not cover all aspects of psychopathy. Anti-social defined by; a cluster of criminal and anti-social behaviors & psychopathy defined by; a cluster of both personality traits and socially deviant behaviors(as defined in DSM IV, the psychology bible.

CONDUCT DISORDER is the term used to define individuals, with this syndrome, who are under age 18.


Got company coming, will try to be back later. If not, nite all!  ::MonkeyRoll::


KUDOS TO BLINK: MONKEYS RULE!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Monken,

Dr. Hare is a well renouned leader in the defining and application of psychopathic personalities, you are certainly right about that and I do not disagree there. I'm only pointing out that while there are characteristics that are the very similiar, the manifestations of these characteristics are very different. I know you might disagree with me there too but Dr. Hare comes from a background in psychophysiology, I do not. :)

A lot of people have called Casey, Pathological Liar, Dissociative Personality, Borderline Personality, Asperger's Syndrome, Narcississtic Personality and on and on. Without a full psychological exam, no one will know for sure until history is disclosed. Recently psychologists have been calling sociopathic "anti-social personality disorder" by the DSM IV, and many psychs have said it is too broad of a definition. As you know, the more we learn about brain chemistry and the more people there are to study with these disorders, the better chance we will have to categorize them more succintly. The world of psychology and psychiatry is opinionated because the human mind has so many facets and so many facets yet to discover.

Prior to what we knew about her......I think people saw Casey as 'normal looking' (in her photos with Caylee) and have a hard time wrapping their head around how such an evil mind can come in such a normal looking package.

I included the site for this info in case anyone would like to read the entire article. Everyone will interpret Casey's behavior based on how they see her fit into the categories below. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1013712/sociopath_vs_psychopath_the_differences.html

Characteristics of a sociopath are as followed:
 

1. Sociopaths are very charming.
2. Sociopaths can be extremely manipulative and will try to con you whenever possible.
3. Sociopaths feel that they are entitled to everything.
4. Sociopaths will lie continuously to get what they want. They can even sometimes manipulate a lie detector.
5. Sociopaths have no remorse, shame or guilt.
6. Sociopaths will show love and happiness only when it serves their purpose. None of the feelings are genuine.
7. Sociopaths have no room for love in their life.
8. Sociopaths need to have excitement in their lives or live on the edge.
9. Sociopaths have lack of empathy hen their victims suffer pain that they have caused.
10. Sociopaths believe that they are all mightier than tho, there is no concern on how their behavior impacts others.
11. Sociopaths usually have a long history of juvenile delinquency as well as behavior problems.
12. Sociopaths will never take blame for anything they have done to anyone no matter if it is family or friend.
13. Sociopaths have many sexual partners and tend to act out many sexual acts.
14. Sociopaths rarely stay in one place for a long time (home/work).
15. Sociopaths will change themselves if they know it will keep them from being found out.

Characteristics of a psychopath are as followed:

1. Psychopaths use superficial charm to lure their victims.
2. Psychopaths are extremely self-centered.
3. Psychopaths must always do something to keep themselves from boredom.
4. Psychopaths are very deceptive and tend to lie continuously.
5. Psychopaths show no remorse of guilt towards their victims.
6. Psychopaths are very predatory and usually will live off other people.
7. Psychopaths have many sexual partners in their lifetime.
8. Psychopaths are very impulsive with their lifestyle.
9. Psychopaths are always blaming other people for their actions.
10. Psychopaths never have a realistic view of their lives. (king of the world or from another planet)
11. Psychopaths always want psychological gratification in sexual and criminal activities.
12. Psychopaths tend to try suicide, rarely succeeding.

Enjoy your company!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Casey is obviously a psychopath. It upsets me a lot to hear people confuse her with a "Borderline" personality, because for one thing "Borderline" is a kind of meaningless diagnosis--it's just an immature person with suicidal tendencies.  And Asperger's people are just bad at reading body language or understanding what kinds of things another person wants to listen to--the opposite of manipulative--they couldn't manipulate someone to save their lives.

i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 09:56:37 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.

Could it even be used as evidence at this point by the prosecution?  Chain of custody and all that.
Not sure but if it has Caylees blood on it I think they could find a way to get it in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 17, 2009, 10:02:28 AM
Not sure of the actual frequency that the meter readers actually 'read' the meters ( maybe every two months, three months, and the others are estimates).

But....maybe KRONK was in the area of Hopespring, etc....and had seen Casey...or heard something during the 'flare up with Cindy' and then finally put two and two together.  Of course, being that he would have been assisgned a different route other months, was not in that area on a monthly basis.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 10:02:28 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.

Could it even be used as evidence at this point by the prosecution?  Chain of custody and all that.
Not sure but if it has Caylees blood on it I think they could find a way to get it in.
If it had any damning evidence on it, my guess is that the defense destroyed it long ago.  And if defense still has it, it can only be helpful to defense and prosecution will not use because of the chain of custody.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 17, 2009, 10:02:58 AM

I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.


Very sharp insight Today, ITA.

Although I am not aware what affliction causes one to wrap duct tape around your child's head covering both breathing avenues.
Yeesh that guy already.
[/quote]If that is something they would try to prove it might be hard to prove unless Casey had a history of seizures which I don't think there was an explanation of why she had one with one of those boyfriends. It could just as easily have been a seizure due to alcohol or drug use. If Caylee never had a seizure before which would be on record then that would be hard to prove. I think that defense would fall apart in court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:04:30 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words.  I did want to apologise tho.  Its all good, I wont crack the shits again, only with slore casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyShocked::   Is that monkey talk or Aussie talk ?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Crack the shits. I need to find out what it means pronto. I am using that one today in conversation as many times as possible. Hope I don't get fired!  ::MonkeyShocked::
I saw this on an earlier page and thought I'd mention it is Aussie speak for chucking a tantrum lol. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 10:06:39 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

ilovegoodies - I know I'm responding long after you are gone but hopefully you'll see my question.  WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION.  I hope you understand that I at least need to know where you are reading this or who is supplying you with this information before I can consider it at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 17, 2009, 10:07:06 AM

I like how you explained this LuckyCharms.Does anyone know if Casey is diagnosed as a sociopath,would that work in her favor at trial(if it goes to trial)?Would that diagnoses get her life in a mental hospital?
Also I want to thank Blink for the very eye opening front page post....great job!

I personally think that if Baez intends to seek some sort of mental defect defense, he needs to get him some experts in there.  They need to spend time with her and administer tests.  She, as far as we know, has never had mental health treatment.  This would be a hard defense to take without a lot of time from a doctor spending time with her.  I understood that a sociopath understood right from wrong but just lacked the ability to care.  I don't think this would work as a defense.  JMO.
Ahh,thank you Pooky.That's right,IIRC,a person cannot take a mental defense if they knew right from wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 10:07:08 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.
Sassy I am from Australia and wouldn't know how to go about notifying them but I sure would feel better if someone did. It has been bothering me ever since I noticed it. ::MonkeyNoNo::
ETA- http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html

Thanks for posting the link to that video.  I hadn't seen it before.   
I can't stand listening to her.    ::MonkeyHaHa::     But, she did say that the bedding went to the defense.   hmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: theboyzmom on January 17, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Good saturday morning Monkey's.It's -3 degrees here in Detroit   ::MonkeyEek::

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LuckyCharms wrote:

I do not believe that Casey could have had any disciplinary action to change her course of behavior. Sociopaths are about 4% of the population while psychopaths are only about 1%, the number is increasingly smaller when you talk about homicidal behavior. Sociopaths live among us, they work with us, they go to church with us, they cut our hair, they dispense our medication, they prepare our taxes, they work on our root canals and they handle our finances. Many of them will never murder anyone or anything. These are the types of sociopaths that are highlighed in The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout. We marry them, divorce them, fight for custody with them, and all the while, we might never know it. People also call these people psychopaths but they really are two different types of disorders.

If G & C had been more aware of Casey's behavoirs while she was a child they could have prevented her future behavior to a certain extent. However, parents tend to justify and think of it as a passing phase. We've heard Cindy confess that she believed Casey was a sociopath. It's not a term we use loosely because a child has stressed us out or had days of behavior where they acted up. Cindy has known for awhile that Casey has 'something' that is not like all the other kids. Rather than acknowledge it, she did her best to hide it, even going as far as covering up any misdoings by Casey. As we see now, at age 22, Cindy is still defending Casey.

Casey could not be taught responsibility or empathy or guilt or love. If you can imagine being born without nerve endings. You couldn't feel a fluffy dog, a soft pillow or the heat if you got to close to a stove. That would be strange for us, right?  Casey was born without nerve endings (feelings/emotions/conscience). It is why she can't form any connections to anyone. That is why she lives her life in a fantasy rather than reality. She sees other people working, having fun, enjoying life but she can't. She cannot experience great job or the worst heartache. But she has to look like she is all of those things in order to be accepted. Now that we can unravel her lies we can glimpse into the mind of a very disturbed person.

If you go back and read some of her texts to Amy, she is talking about a breakup around May 3. She is over it pretty quickly as by the 4th, she is already talking about going out to meet more boys, as she calls them. This is why she can loose one relationship and on to the next in minutes. This is why she saw Caylee as disposable. She was upset, probably out of control over the fight she and Cindy had on the 15th. She killed Caylee in a rage. Now it was just a matter of hiding her so that she didn't have to be reminded of the burden. When she sees G & C on Aug 14th, she doesn't understand why Cindy is so upset, after all, she's done the best she can. This is why she didn't do anything to find Caylee after she was released on her 1st bond. In her mind, it was over, finished, time to move on. She can't make the connection between everyone else missing Caylee and her disposing of something that was in her way. So, long story short, there was nothing anyone could do.


I like how you explained this LuckyCharms.Does anyone know if Casey is diagnosed as a sociopath,would that work in her favor at trial(if it goes to trial)?Would that diagnoses get her life in a mental hospital?
Also I want to thank Blink for the very eye opening front page post....great job!

While I disagree that there is a difference between sociopaths and psychopaths, it does not make any difference. Neither is grounds for a mental defense. Neither are considered insanity. The definition of legal insanity is that you are unable to differentiate right from wrong. Psychopaths have no problem with this distinction - they just don't care and/or think the rules do not apply to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 10:11:26 AM
i cant believe it...in that video that cindys going on about the brush...i swear shes been talking for 4 minutes straight and she hasnt even stopped to take a breath. does she have gills or something...ive never seen anyone that can talk nonstop for this long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 17, 2009, 10:11:52 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.




Wow those symptoms are eerily close to a family member. I've got to say that people say alot that George and Cindy handle Casey badly but I know that if they handled her any differently they would be talking to and empty booth. Sure maybe they could have done things better in the past but now I don't think they have much choice anymore if they want to keep- her talking. I really don't see that Baez can claim that this vid showed the police had been untoward in any way so I just don't know what he thought they'd done. Makes you wonder what stories Casey has been telling him hey.
I am still catching up and I wondered if there was any more info on the Annie and (ZG)Casey go for a drive scenario?


Hi, Dottie! If you look closely at the defining characteristics of these two disorders you will see that there are 2 additional DEFINING characteristics that a psychopath/sociopath has that are NOT listed. They are: A HISTORY OF PATHELOGICAL LYING AND A REPEATED PLAY FOR PITY. Personality disorder characteristics do tend to overlap but there is always defining seperation.

LUCKYCHARMS: I appreciate your input more than you know!  ::MonkeyRoll::
The list of defining characteristics for psychopathy vs. sociopathy are basically the same; although worded somewhat differently. I have learned that the only differences between the two syndromes is in the labeling. To put it simply: Experts who believe that this an entirely learned behavior influenced by social forces & experiences prefer SOCIOPATH. Experts who believe the person "was born that way" tend to favor PSYCHOPATH. But we are talking about the same type of individual! Also, the reason "psychopath" is not used so much anymore is because of the negative connotations. Although psychopaths rarely kill "they usually get their way without having to" over the years they have been portrayed as mass murderers & sadistic killers. The term psychopath automatically brings this to mind. It always has for me!  ::MonkeyEek:: All in all, sociopathy is a PERSONALITY DISORDER AND NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS, which is why it is so frightening. There is no "cure." No widely accepted treatment; nothing! They are what they are; forever!  ::MonkeyEek::


By the way, my hubby is in 4th sem. RN. He has decided through clinicals that he prefers to work in Psychiatric  ::MonkeyShocked:: This really did shock me as I would really be too chicken to do it! Once graduating he will continue to Psychiatric Nurse Practioner; as this will only be an additional year. I swear, I had nothing to do with his decision & I really think he is obsessed with school!  ::MonkeyTongue:: Hopefully he will be working with our good friend & neighbor who is a Psychologist.  ::MonkeyRoll::



GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 10:14:12 AM


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I thought that was very interesting and I missed it on NG last night.  I think it is a possible defense strategy -- Caylee died because of (whatever might be found) and mother panicked, blah, blah.   

Remember Casey had a seizure (personally I think it was drug or alcohol related). I think they are trying to find a genetic disease that causes seizures to say Caylee died of a seizure and Casey has the same disorder. blah, blah.


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Very sharp insight Today, ITA.

Although I am not aware what affliction causes one to wrap duct tape around your child's head covering both breathing avenues.
Yeesh that guy already.

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If that is something they would try to prove it might be hard to prove unless Casey had a history of seizures which I don't think there was an explanation of why she had one with one of those boyfriends. It could just as easily have been a seizure due to alcohol or drug use. If Caylee never had a seizure before which would be on record then that would be hard to prove. I think that defense would fall apart in court.

Quotes a little messed up, I tried to make it more readable.  Anyways, I think that IF defense is looking at genetics (remember this was a supposition by doctor on NG) they are looking for a theory that could work.  Using your comment about no history of seizures, I can hear defense say, look here in Caylee's genetics she was predisposed to seizures and it happened and she had her first one and she died and then her mother was so panicked that she made it look like a kidnapping.

I don't believe this for one minute but if in the defense testing they find anything that could suggest, no matter how remotely, that Caylee could have died from any way besides at the hand of her mother, they will spin and spin that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:14:52 AM


i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?
I kind of agree I think she has multiple issues and at various stages which makes her hard to label really. I disagree though that she is so narcissistic she would never attempt to harm herself. My sister displayed many of these traits and they noticably worsened after she had children. She started self harming and many suicide attempts from about 28 on; it escalates into a woe is me tale of how everyone must be out to get them and then the suicide attempts start but as harsh as this sounds they are mostly for show and attention then acts angry if anyone beleived her enough to call an ambulance. She can be absolutely out of her mind threatening throwing hurting people one minute and when police come she turns into the most rational person in the world. Thats why its hard to get help at first, she has also convinced the psych wards she is fine after suicide attempts and that her family is crazy. Eventually though their files at the police station and mental ward grow and people start to beleive the family but it is nearly always too late by that time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 10:21:22 AM
i cant believe it...in that video that cindys going on about the brush...i swear shes been talking for 4 minutes straight and she hasnt even stopped to take a breath. does she have gills or something...ive never seen anyone that can talk nonstop for this long.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   I know.   She drives me nuts.   I would guess that is why she doesn't seem to have many girlfriends.   I know I wouldn't want her as a friend!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 10:22:45 AM


i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?
I kind of agree I think she has multiple issues and at various stages which makes her hard to label really. I disagree though that she is so narcissistic she would never attempt to harm herself. My sister displayed many of these traits and they noticably worsened after she had children. She started self harming and many suicide attempts from about 28 on; it escalates into a woe is me tale of how everyone must be out to get them and then the suicide attempts start but as harsh as this sounds they are mostly for show and attention then acts angry if anyone beleived her enough to call an ambulance. She can be absolutely out of her mind threatening throwing hurting people one minute and when police come she turns into the most rational person in the world. Thats why its hard to get help at first, she has also convinced the psych wards she is fine after suicide attempts and that her family is crazy. Eventually though their files at the police station and mental ward grow and people start to beleive the family but it is nearly always too late by that time.

your sisters suicide attempts may not have been wholehearted but she tried hurting herself for attention. casey went partying and shopping after she murdered caylee(who got too much attention).

please forgive me if i ask this, and you certainly dont have to answer me, i would totally understand if youd rather not. is it your sister you were referring to when you commented on borderline?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2009, 10:22:47 AM
yes peanut Kio Marie's relative's did live in that very apt. she pointed to.
Huh ? When the police took her statments, she took them to that apartment street and pointed . It was a seniors place. It was canvassed .It was across the street from Ricardo's. She never mentioned the fact to the detectives that she had been staying at Ricardo's earlier in the week, the 8 th to the 15th. Thre is little out there about where she was the week prior to the 15th. At least, I did not read it.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cheeky monkey on January 17, 2009, 10:23:42 AM
i cant believe it...in that video that cindys going on about the brush...i swear shes been talking for 4 minutes straight and she hasnt even stopped to take a breath. does she have gills or something...ive never seen anyone that can talk nonstop for this long.


Gills - ha!  Too funny.  Maybe scales?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 10:27:57 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 10:31:10 AM
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I know what you mean about feeding the strays, I had an outside cat due to allergies and everynight I would end up feeding 16 stray cats, a racoon and a possum when I lived in TN, but they all ate together and then would disappear during the day. Now that I moved away, I hope they found another outside cat to share with:(
I have good news for you Islandmonkey. Your strays are all fed and doing fine. They found my sister at the border of Mississippi and Tenn and she's feeding them now. Complete with baby pool when the weather is warm and a heat lamp outside in the winter. She's feeding the cats, raccoons and possums!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:32:21 AM
I mentioned this on an earlier thread but I think it is very interesting. While watching the vid of Cindy denying she intntionally gave the wrong brush to LE she mentions how the defense wanted dna so Casey and Cindy found hairbands etc and the brush but they also STRIPPED THE BED and gave that to the defense team too. Now I know LE have linked the crime back to the house already but there was mention of some bedding being fund at the crime scene (unconfirmed) and the police sure took a lot of bedding when they did their search that would tend to back this up. As far as I know the defense team do not have to offer this to LE and this is the only time Cindy mentions it while she is rambling for a long time about all sorts of stuff so I doubt that LE are even aware that the defense team has it. It would make sense that Casey would want it out of the house if she knew it could link her to the crime so she gave it to Baez and I think LE need to go get it. If they had already done so there would have been a motion to get it and there hasn't been.
What do you think? ::MonkeyEek::

I think its a good catch on your part.  And LE should be notified.
Sassy I am from Australia and wouldn't know how to go about notifying them but I sure would feel better if someone did. It has been bothering me ever since I noticed it. ::MonkeyNoNo::
ETA- http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html

Thanks for posting the link to that video.  I hadn't seen it before.   
I can't stand listening to her.    ::MonkeyHaHa::     But, she did say that the bedding went to the defense.   hmmm.
I know isn't it grting she sounds like a tweaker, but she is under huge stress and has been so attacked you can kind of understand why she is soooo defensive. Still EARPLUGS please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 10:33:01 AM
yes peanut Kio Marie's relative's did live in that very apt. she pointed to.
Huh ? When the police took her statments, she took them to that apartment street and pointed . It was a seniors place. It was canvassed .It was across the street from Ricardo's. She never mentioned the fact to the detectives that she had been staying at Ricardo's earlier in the week, the 8 th to the 15th. Thre is little out there about where she was the week prior to the 15th. At least, I did not read it.   

oh i wasnt here to see that. im totally confused...casey took them to the seniors only facility across the street from ricardos. she pointed to a window and said that was zannys room and the one below it was zannies sisters.
how has that been linked to kios relatives?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:33:48 AM
*Snipped*

Elisabeth Kόbler-Ross, M.D., wrote a book called "On Death and Dying."  In this book, she says that there are 5 stages of grief that most everyone goes through when either dying themselves or grieving the loss of a loved one.  (you can also bounce back a stage or two - so it isn't always linear.)  The stages are:

   1. Denial:  "Caylee isn't dead.  She's fine.  She'll come home soon."
   2. Anger:  "Why isn't LE doing their jobs?  Why are they persecuting KC instead of finding our living Caylee, who is definitely not dead?"  (I imagine this anger will turn toward KC soon)
   3. Bargaining:  "Just give us some info, honey."; "Just help us find Caylee alive.";  "I would trade places with you if I could, honey, we just want Caylee home."
   4. Depression:  "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "We'll never see Caylee again."
   5. Acceptance:  "It's going to be OK."; "She's gone and now we must deal with it."

So, considering this, I have to say that even though we do not understand CA and GA's behavior and we all feel we would behave differently, let's remember that we just don't know how we react in this situation.  I can only imagine the torment they feel.  I also noted that GA is trying to get KC to come clean to everyone and this would end the big mess.  At this point, I feel they know something bad happened, but because they can't comprehend the idea that their granddaughter has possibly been MURDERED and even worse that their own flesh and blood did it, they (specifically GA) think that it was probably an accident and KC can clear everything up if she just tells the truth.

I think it's going to be a long time before we see CA and GA make it to the "acceptance" stage of grief.  It takes many people MANY years to get to this point, if they make it at all.

Hi Iron Cowgirl,

You make some excellent observations about the grief process and how it specifically relates to Casey's mind and thought process. I agree with you, I believe at this point they know something. It is easy to see their mistakes in parenting while watching this video but in all honesty, they probably didn't have much of a chance against Casey. Someone asked me in another post if I thought there was any way to get Casey to talk. No, I don't believe there is. Casey has used lies and manipulation her entire life, it's all she knows. There is no way she is going to fess up. There is nothing they can offer (or anyone for that matter) that will override her propensity toward lying.

There are several things going on here.  
Casey
1. Casey is a master manipulator-She will threaten to hang up the phone when she feels boxed in, scrutinized, questioned, not believed, etc. And interestingly enough, it works. You can see how both G & C placate her, walk on eggshells, do whatever it takes to keep her from leaving. She will use guilt, anger, threats to get her way. 

2. Casey has to feel the control-The feeling of control is her security. There are many psychological reasons why she must exhibit this to the extent of manipulation. People who have to feel control of this level are most certainly out of control with their internal psyche. She will go to her room, slam the door and make them sorry they ever made her angry.

3. Casey wants to be rescued-She has created an underlying fantasy/fairy tale that most girls grow out of (though some never do) of being the princess in the castle awaiting their prince. She has the classic signs of this fantasy. Cindy-The evil witch (Sleeping Beauty), George-The loving father (Cinderella), Lee (Modern Day fairy tale-Star Wars), Tony, Jesse, Ricardo (princes in many fairy tales), Caylee-(Cinderella's evil step-sisters), Herself-The beautiful princess (almost every fairy tale).

4. Casey rarely puts any thought into her answers-I noticed this in her initial interview with the detectives at Universal. She only responds to what is being stated at that moment. I have not heard her answer in layers. She did this with G & C. This is why she sounds so contradictory. Are you in the out of the loop? Or does Jose keep you informed? Is she getting support from the outside? Or is she only getting the brunt of the anger and accusations? Is she sleeping or not sleeping?

5. Casey is extremely jealous-She never says, I miss her, I miss my Caylee, I miss my baby girl, I miss her laugh, etc. She only says she 'wants' her back but only after she has said, I know you guys want her back. Caylee to her was a possession, one to keep or destroy based on how she was feeling at any given moment. This is indicative of her emotional maturity.

6. Casey is a victim-She plays this role because she wants something. She wants attention. She wants us all to understand that she is in pain, her life has been taken away and that she is suffering. Suffering because she can't be with her mom, dad, lee. She doesn't have access to her community, her house. She doesn't have her phone or her PC. Not once did she say that she was suffering because of Caylee. Based on what we know now, once she got out of jail, she did nothing to find Caylee. This further reinforces how she uses her words to get what she wants but she didn't live up to her promises.

7. Casey is the only one allowed to be upset-She uses her situation of being in jail as the justification for minimalizing how G & C are feeling. She is very selfish.

8. Casey admits guilt-She says, When this goes to trial. At this point she hasn't been indicted yet. She is admitting her involvement without ever saying it. She knows shes guilty. She knows where it is headed. She expects people to hate her. This is just another tactic she will use to gain sympathy, poor me, every one hates me, they want to see me suffer. The money in her account is her reinforcement that people do feel sorry for her, that people sympathize with her, that not everyone wants her to suffer, not everyone hates her.

Cindy
1. Cindy cannot look her in the eye-Her signs point to frustration, distrust, betrayal and lies all previously told prior to the disappearance. Years and years of deceit are culminating in Cindy.

2. Cindy has lost hope-She is seeking a crumb of information to lead her to the discovery or confession.

3. Cindy is in turmoil-She hears reports of a drowning, the mounting evidence and she starts to loose faith in Casey.

4. Cindy is gullible-Since this video we have seen her come out fighting for Casey as if she is the victim in all of this. Unfortunately when she told the media that Casey was a victim, it crucified her in our eyes. We've heard Cindy plea for help on her 911 calls, we see her here about to crumble, and now, as recent as this email to Lois, emerge as a full on Casey supporter. Why? Cindy believes who is in front of her at that moment. When George told her it was pizza, she believed it was pizza. When Casey told her she was in the hospital helping Zanny after the accident, she believed it. When Casey told her she wasn't pregnant, she believed it. When Casey told her that it wasn't her fault she was in jail, Cindy believed that too. And because of this belief, we see her support Casey as if Caylee is a mere after thought. We often can't see how we really are because we are too close to the situation. Given time and space away from Casey, maybe Cindy will start to break away from the evil spell of manipulation.

George
1. George is complimentary  -Hi Beautiful! This makes her smile and giggle. She has all of his attention and she likes it. This only reinforces how she already feels about herself.
2. George is a non confrontationist-He uses analogies rather than cold hard facts. He tells her she is the CEO. This is extreme coddling. She is an adult, age 22. He should not be using any analogies on her. Especially in light of why she is in jail to begin with: a missing daughter. This tells us that logic and reasoning, fact and truth do not work on Casey.

3. George is the negotiator-I can make it happen, you just tell me what you want. Because he is not doing what she wants, she starts throwing another fit. She wants out of jail, not a measly personal visit!!! This also reinforces her selfish attitude. She will keep everyone at a distance until she gets what she wants.

4. George has lost all control-Casey is now in Jose's control. She likes it there. He is the only one she can talk to. He is the only one who understands. Casey makes this known loud and clear because she knows G & C dislike Jose. George tries to hint to Casey that Jose might not have her best interest at heart but Casey denies it. This disrupts her fairy tale. Now Jose is her prince. Over time though, she will remain in her castle, locked up, still awaiting the return of Jose to get an appeal. Jose however will never fight for her best interest, otherwise he would have pushed her to take a plea deal when it was offered. Jose will be off doing book signings and making the media circuit he now criticizes. It's too bad she can't see what her parent's see in Jose. And it's too bad her parents can't see what we see in Casey.............


To Luckycharmsprincess, Do you think if George and Cindy gave Casey a strict good upbringing from the get go it would have made some kind of difference in how she is now? If they had made her accountable, punished her, etc growing up instead of looking the other way all her life? Surely she might have turned out differently? If even just a little? PS Cute doggie.
Wow Lucky charms princess this is an awesome post. I am impressed! ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 10:35:42 AM
i cant believe it...in that video that cindys going on about the brush...i swear shes been talking for 4 minutes straight and she hasnt even stopped to take a breath. does she have gills or something...ive never seen anyone that can talk nonstop for this long.


Gills - ha!  Too funny.  Maybe scales?

something fishy there for sure!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: dottie on January 17, 2009, 10:35:57 AM

Two personality disorders that I have thought about.  If they have been discussed skip.

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood.

The essential feature of histrionic personality disorder is an excessive pattern of emotionality and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others.

 Overview
People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. [1] Furthermore, histrionic personality disorder may affect a person's social or romantic relationships or their ability to cope with losses or failures.  People with this disorder may seek treatment for depression when romantic relationships end, although this is by no means a feature exclusive to this disorder. They often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead tending to dramatize and exaggerate their difficulties. They usually blame others for failures or disappointments.  They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing depression.

Borderline Personality Disorder - Symptoms
A person with borderline personality disorder often has unstable relationships, low self-esteem, and problems with impulsive behavior, all of which begin by early adulthood.2A common feature of this disorder is fear of being left alone (abandoned), even if the threat of being abandoned is not real. This fear may lead to frantic attempts to hold on to those around you and may cause you to become too dependent on others. Sometimes you may react to the fear of being abandoned by rejecting others first before they can reject you. This erratic behavior can lead to troubled relationships in  every area of your life.

People who are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder have at least five of the following symptoms. They may:4

Make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others.
Have an unstable self-image or be unsure of his or her own identity.
Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse, binge eating, or reckless driving.
Have recurring suicidal thoughts, make repeated suicide attempts, or cause self-injury through mutilation, such as cutting or burning himself or herself.
Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. These mood swings usually only last a few hours at a time. In rare cases, they may last a day or two.  Have long-term feelings of emptiness.
Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights.
Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.
Not everyone who has five or more of these symptoms is diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. For a person to be diagnosed with any personality disorder, the symptoms must be severe and must go on long enough to cause significant emotional distress or problems functioning in relationships or at work.4

You may have temporary episodes of psychosis (paranoia and a loss of a sense of reality) with borderline personality disorder, especially when you are going through a personal crisis.  This psychosis usually does not last very long. But if it continues, your doctor may consider another condition, such as schizophrenia.

Symptoms of borderline personality disorder are not caused by another medical condition or by medicines, and they are not a result of long-term substance abuse problems. Borderline personality disorder may be confused with other conditions with similar symptoms, such as other personality disorders, including antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.


None of this sounds remotely like Casey. She doesn't have low self-esteem. Cindy might be histrionic or borderline, definitely. But Casey's main problem is that she lacks empathy, has a huge sense of entitlement, and has a cruel streak. I don't think she's rejecting others before they can reject her. She uses people then dumps them when they're no longer useful.
I guess you missed my second quote stating why I posted these.  The point was that they are all so closely intertwined that they can be very hard to diagnose with out proper testing (MMPI) and psychoanalysis.

I do disagree that none of this sounds remotely like Casey.
Low self esteem-Cindy has repededly beat her in the ground and told her she was a terrible mom, she didn't graduate from high school, she has no job and I don't think that someone with high self esteem would be sleeping around with so many different guys some at the same time.
Tantrums and Anger-I think we have seen that on the video...and heard neighbor reports of fights.
Self damaging ways frequent sex with many partners, substance abuse
frequent emotional overreactions I think this has been proven by statments from boyfriends (Tony) she would overreact when he would talk of moving etc.
AbandonmentCasy felt that George abandonded them...she talked in the video about wanting to be with him because they had just got back together.  Abandonment doesn't have to be in a physical since although George did leave at one time but Casey felt that she had been abandoned by CA & GA and CAylee had taken her place.
Psychosisgoing through a personal crisis.  Who knows maybe June 15 when they got in an argument Cindy told her she was taking Caylee and kicking her to the curb...she could have had a psychotic event and hurt Caylee.

Point being....you can make her fit every one of these disorders from what we know...[/color]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:42:09 AM


i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?
I kind of agree I think she has multiple issues and at various stages which makes her hard to label really. I disagree though that she is so narcissistic she would never attempt to harm herself. My sister displayed many of these traits and they noticably worsened after she had children. She started self harming and many suicide attempts from about 28 on; it escalates into a woe is me tale of how everyone must be out to get them and then the suicide attempts start but as harsh as this sounds they are mostly for show and attention then acts angry if anyone beleived her enough to call an ambulance. She can be absolutely out of her mind threatening throwing hurting people one minute and when police come she turns into the most rational person in the world. Thats why its hard to get help at first, she has also convinced the psych wards she is fine after suicide attempts and that her family is crazy. Eventually though their files at the police station and mental ward grow and people start to beleive the family but it is nearly always too late by that time.

your sisters suicide attempts may not have been wholehearted but she tried hurting herself for attention. casey went partying and shopping after she murdered caylee(who got too much attention).

please forgive me if i ask this, and you certainly dont have to answer me, i would totally understand if youd rather not. is it your sister you were referring to when you commented on borderline?
She seems to be but has never been formally diagnosed she doesn't think she has a problem. Those times she was looking for attention I agree. They nearly always happen after her current boyfreind leaves. She will kick her kids out if they don't want kids and has done that many times. Then sh too goes out partying without a care in the world where her kids ended up. BUT if her kids leave her even if she told them too and they come to us she goes schizo. They can go anywhere but the family. Of course we still care for them when they need us too but it is hard. Last time I looked after them she called the police and said I kidnapped them lol! She threw them out. She then rang my boss and tried to get me fired and then threatened to kill me. If you do what she wants though she will go back to normal but you have to act like she has done nothing wrong. There is no middle ground with her. My aunt is a psychiatrist and mentioned she believes it is Borderline but we really don't know for sure.
Sorry that was prob waaay more info then you wanted.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
I don't think a diagnosis of anything is going to be used by Baez. There have been no doctors to see her except for the jail guys. That report was sealed. She has never been treated for anything and she is not under any current treatment.
Last night, they just played the tapes of her having a tantrum with Cindy and George.
I actually understood what Geroge was saying to her, that she was in control of this and she was the CEO. She had all these people " working " for her. ( People that could help find Caylee ) But, alas, she didn't even get what they were saying, that she could be out of there if she provided info to all thee ppl who were working for her and Caylee was found. Or, now that we know what happened, she did get it and just wanted to rag on George and Cindy. She sure led them down the path of having info that she couldn't talk about from jail. But once she was out, not a peep. She complained that she only got 24 hours from the detectives to " help " before she was arrested. So there, it's their fault.
The vid from last night just showed that she is self centered and selfish and doesn't give a rat's azz about anyone else or any other thing.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 10:43:58 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::

Ok this is killing me because I went on the Orange County site the other day with the last name Almodovar
I put in first names of Zenaida and just for Monkey thoughts I as well looked up the name Alice

Well I found that they both are in the system - Both Names - NO middle names. Yet were all recorded in 1993 - within Orange County

Each filled out papers for Domicile to Live in Orlando from Puerto Rico - Funny thins ... Always ..

Each filed within 20 some days of each other - looks to me as the exact same handwriting. Zenaida actually wrote reason of change of residence - School
Alice no reason stated

Funny Thin again is - They both used the EXACT address as their Home in P.R. right down to a apt # - but its not an apt - It  is a Bus Station .. I chased it

Zenaida put up an Address for new residence on Semaron Blvd which is not NOT anything but a Tax Attorneys Law office. 1486 Semoran Blvd. Orlando

Alice put her new address as 1465 Montego Lane Orlando FL

Then you Map it and its walking Distance .........

Make the Madness Stop PLEASE

This is wild.   Thanks for doing all this research.

And thanks to the other monkeys doing/sharing research, whether it is on "Zenaida" or "personality disorders" or whatever -  I appreciate all the hard work and insights!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KCJackie on January 17, 2009, 10:45:23 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

ilovegoodies - I know I'm responding long after you are gone but hopefully you'll see my question.  WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION.  I hope you understand that I at least need to know where you are reading this or who is supplying you with this information before I can consider it at all.
I believe she said it is posted at Websleuths under the Kio Marie thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 10:47:31 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM

Hi JSM.   I would help you out - but I'm stuck on page 84 or so.   Going back and forth, trying to catch up!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Lots of interesting reading, though!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 10:53:11 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

ilovegoodies - I know I'm responding long after you are gone but hopefully you'll see my question.  WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION.  I hope you understand that I at least need to know where you are reading this or who is supplying you with this information before I can consider it at all.
I believe she said it is posted at Websleuths under the Kio Marie thread.

No backup information but I found it at Tpoix -- here is the link -- http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p2941


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 10:53:30 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM

Hi JSM.   I would help you out - but I'm stuck on page 84 or so.   Going back and forth, trying to catch up!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Lots of interesting reading, though!
Hi Sassy, I am reading backwards and I am only on page 74  ::MonkeyWaa:: It is interesting reading. Maybe I will catch up in a bit.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 10:53:36 AM


i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?
I kind of agree I think she has multiple issues and at various stages which makes her hard to label really. I disagree though that she is so narcissistic she would never attempt to harm herself. My sister displayed many of these traits and they noticably worsened after she had children. She started self harming and many suicide attempts from about 28 on; it escalates into a woe is me tale of how everyone must be out to get them and then the suicide attempts start but as harsh as this sounds they are mostly for show and attention then acts angry if anyone beleived her enough to call an ambulance. She can be absolutely out of her mind threatening throwing hurting people one minute and when police come she turns into the most rational person in the world. Thats why its hard to get help at first, she has also convinced the psych wards she is fine after suicide attempts and that her family is crazy. Eventually though their files at the police station and mental ward grow and people start to beleive the family but it is nearly always too late by that time.

your sisters suicide attempts may not have been wholehearted but she tried hurting herself for attention. casey went partying and shopping after she murdered caylee(who got too much attention).

please forgive me if i ask this, and you certainly dont have to answer me, i would totally understand if youd rather not. is it your sister you were referring to when you commented on borderline?
She seems to be but has never been formally diagnosed she doesn't think she has a problem. Those times she was looking for attention I agree. They nearly always happen after her current boyfreind leaves. She will kick her kids out if they don't want kids and has done that many times. Then sh too goes out partying without a care in the world where her kids ended up. BUT if her kids leave her even if she told them too and they come to us she goes schizo. They can go anywhere but the family. Of course we still care for them when they need us too but it is hard. Last time I looked after them she called the police and said I kidnapped them lol! She threw them out. She then rang my boss and tried to get me fired and then threatened to kill me. If you do what she wants though she will go back to normal but you have to act like she has done nothing wrong. There is no middle ground with her. My aunt is a psychiatrist and mentioned she believes it is Borderline but we really don't know for sure.
Sorry that was prob waaay more info then you wanted.  ::MonkeyConfused::


oh no, not at all, thank you for telling me. please dont feel that way. bpd is very hard on family members and loved ones, and im very sorry that you and the rest of your family have to go thru that. :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

ilovegoodies - I know I'm responding long after you are gone but hopefully you'll see my question.  WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION.  I hope you understand that I at least need to know where you are reading this or who is supplying you with this information before I can consider it at all.
I believe she said it is posted at Websleuths under the Kio Marie thread.

Actually she said that she found the thread at WS after she did her research.  Just because there is a thread at WS doesn't make it so.  I want to know how she knows this to be true otherwise it means nothing to me.  I want to see court records or documentation showing they are related.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 10:59:46 AM
I am at least 20 pages behind - thought you might be interested in this....
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/hopespringinfo.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/685bc05f.jpg)

Thanks KCJackie - what search did you use to get this?  Can you give the the link to it?
We use People Finders for husbands work - thought I would give it a try ::MonkeyWink::

Interresting it says #215 because we know 4709 Hopespring is a single family home.
Sometimes there are errors - haven't ran into any major ones though.   ::MonkeyWink::

Ok this is killing me because I went on the Orange County site the other day with the last name Almodovar
I put in first names of Zenaida and just for Monkey thoughts I as well looked up the name Alice

Well I found that they both are in the system - Both Names - NO middle names. Yet were all recorded in 1993 - within Orange County

Each filled out papers for Domicile to Live in Orlando from Puerto Rico - Funny thins ... Always ..

Each filed within 20 some days of each other - looks to me as the exact same handwriting. Zenaida actually wrote reason of change of residence - School
Alice no reason stated

Funny Thin again is - They both used the EXACT address as their Home in P.R. right down to a apt # - but its not an apt - It  is a Bus Station .. I chased it

Zenaida put up an Address for new residence on Semaron Blvd which is not NOT anything but a Tax Attorneys Law office. 1486 Semoran Blvd. Orlando

Alice put her new address as 1465 Montego Lane Orlando FL

Then you Map it and its walking Distance .........

Make the Madness Stop PLEASE

This is wild.   Thanks for doing all this research.

And thanks to the other monkeys doing/sharing research, whether it is on "Zenaida" or "personality disorders" or whatever -  I appreciate all the hard work and insights!   
onestly I hope that LE have checked this all out. something like that is very coincidental and needs to be easily refuted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 17, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning!!!
Morning Sparky!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 11:07:22 AM
4709 Hopespring Zenida Hernandez..... ready for a big shocker......this is a relative of Kio Marie. I ran across this info when I was trying to figure out if Casey kept going to the Airport to take Caylee to Kio Marie to babysit because the best I can gather Kio Marie supposedly lives there. Now get this EVEN BIGGER SHOCKER the apartment or condo where Casey pointed to and said Zenida's relative lived there well a relative of Kio Marie's lived there.

ilovegoodies - I know I'm responding long after you are gone but hopefully you'll see my question.  WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION.  I hope you understand that I at least need to know where you are reading this or who is supplying you with this information before I can consider it at all.
I believe she said it is posted at Websleuths under the Kio Marie thread.

No backup information but I found it at Tpoix -- here is the link -- http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p2941


Pooky? I thought you went to the store.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks for the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:07:27 AM
Peanut - that is the cutest little kitty.    I think you said he is gone, now.   What happened to him?
Sorry for the O/T but I want to pick that kitty up and pet him everytime Peanut posts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 11:08:48 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM

Hi JSM.   I would help you out - but I'm stuck on page 84 or so.   Going back and forth, trying to catch up!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Lots of interesting reading, though!


we're trying to catch up in a backwards sort of way.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on January 17, 2009, 11:09:27 AM
Good Morning Monkey's.. ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Can any post a close of view of the address 2708 Palmetto rd, Florida..

I am not good on posting maps let alone find what I am looking on a map..

Leave no stone unturned.. ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:10:39 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM

Hi JSM.   I would help you out - but I'm stuck on page 84 or so.   Going back and forth, trying to catch up!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Lots of interesting reading, though!


we're trying to catch up in a backwards sort of way.  ::MonkeyCool::
Hi Trimm, I am slowly catching up  ::MonkeyTongue:: Good Morning by the way!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2009, 11:11:07 AM
From looking at the " lookups "' done on her computer on June 9th for a Zenaida, it could be that she was looking for a fall guy. Maybe she had some fantasy of a fake kidnapping plot to extract some cash out of Cindy. Her friends were going to PR, she had no money to go and then, she was saddled with the kid.She could have gone for a week and just left Caylee at Cindy's but it was the money that was the hold back. Unless she was trying to obtain another identity for a cash solve problem of hers. She stole from her GP's , Jesse, Lee and used Cindy's credit card without Cindy's permission, what would stop her from screwing over a stranger ? George and Cindy were having cash problems, that well was running dry as there was not much left to steal. How dare they have no money ! for her to steal ! I think if Cindy had just given her a pile of cash she would have let her have Caylee. Caylee was her meal ticket with Cindy.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:11:45 AM
Monken, those statements about a sociopath are very helpful.  Casey is constantly looking for sympathy or pity from others.  It is a weapon she uses against her parents all the time, as we have seen in the video interviews.  SHE is the victim.  SHE is in pain.  SHE has problems.  If her parents start to stand up for themselves, she threatens to hang up the phone or starts to blame them for anything that has gone wrong.  She quickly gets them, especially Cindy, back in line.  I can see Casey saying, "I don't want Caylee, but I will see her dead before Mom gets her."  I think she is jealous, resentful, spiteful and won't tolerate anyone else, even a baby, getting more attention or sympathy from people. 

Yes.

And IMO the tape is very telling...it shows that Casey is really the "controller" in the Anthony household.  Everytime we see a video of George, Cindy or Lee with Casey, they're all bending over backwards to talk with her and not get the wrath of Casey's anger.  She's a very angry person and I think that started many years ago when she realized that spouting off anger would get people to jump to her conclusions (think about the birthday party for Casey's friend and Casey calling home angry that everyone was paying attention to the birthday girl and not Casey....this manipulation by Casey goes back many years).

I'm thinking that the master manipulator, Casey, is really the one that controls the Anthony's household and that Cindy, comes in second and controller over George.  Obviously, and you can see it in the tape, Cindy has no control over Casey.



Not excusing Casey for her behavior at all, just saying that her anger seems beyond a mere anger, it seems to be an uncontrollable rage.  Anyone who has lived with this type of person usually does tiptoe around em, walking on eggshells. 

There is a reason for this rage in Casey.  Not something that developed overnight.  This would have me looking into her childhood experiences for the answers of why/what/how etc. 

Again, not to excuse Casey for the way she is today, or what she very likely did to Caylee, but to help understand the situation better.  Because understanding Casey may help those of us who have a sociopath in our lives understand that person better, and God help us. 

Taking it one step further, it hopefully will bring an understanding for everyone in society on how to avoid helping to create such a person in the future, if such a person is indeed created by experiences in life, not born that way.  Which is still in dispute by many psych docs.  IMO, a person such as Casey is a mixture of both genetics and experiences in life. 

And taking that one step further, IMO, the blame for Caylee's death (morally, not legally) can be laid in part at her grandparents feet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
Morning Monkeys, I am 30+ pages behind. Should I read back and try to get caught up or could someone give me a synopsis of what happened last night ? Thanks JSM

Hi JSM.   I would help you out - but I'm stuck on page 84 or so.   Going back and forth, trying to catch up!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Lots of interesting reading, though!


we're trying to catch up in a backwards sort of way.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   I'm always playing "catch-up" it seems.     ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 11:13:02 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
Monken, those statements about a sociopath are very helpful.  Casey is constantly looking for sympathy or pity from others.  It is a weapon she uses against her parents all the time, as we have seen in the video interviews.  SHE is the victim.  SHE is in pain.  SHE has problems.  If her parents start to stand up for themselves, she threatens to hang up the phone or starts to blame them for anything that has gone wrong.  She quickly gets them, especially Cindy, back in line.  I can see Casey saying, "I don't want Caylee, but I will see her dead before Mom gets her."  I think she is jealous, resentful, spiteful and won't tolerate anyone else, even a baby, getting more attention or sympathy from people. 

Yes.

And IMO the tape is very telling...it shows that Casey is really the "controller" in the Anthony household.  Everytime we see a video of George, Cindy or Lee with Casey, they're all bending over backwards to talk with her and not get the wrath of Casey's anger.  She's a very angry person and I think that started many years ago when she realized that spouting off anger would get people to jump to her conclusions (think about the birthday party for Casey's friend and Casey calling home angry that everyone was paying attention to the birthday girl and not Casey....this manipulation by Casey goes back many years).

I'm thinking that the master manipulator, Casey, is really the one that controls the Anthony's household and that Cindy, comes in second and controller over George.  Obviously, and you can see it in the tape, Cindy has no control over Casey.



Not excusing Casey for her behavior at all, just saying that her anger seems beyond a mere anger, it seems to be an uncontrollable rage.  Anyone who has lived with this type of person usually does tiptoe around em, walking on eggshells. 

There is a reason for this rage in Casey.  Not something that developed overnight.  This would have me looking into her childhood experiences for the answers of why/what/how etc. 

Again, not to excuse Casey for the way she is today, or what she very likely did to Caylee, but to help understand the situation better.  Because understanding Casey may help those of us who have a sociopath in our lives understand that person better, and God help us. 

Taking it one step further, it hopefully will bring an understanding for everyone in society on how to avoid helping to create such a person in the future, if such a person is indeed created by experiences in life, not born that way.  Which is still in dispute by many psych docs.  IMO, a person such as Casey is a mixture of both genetics and experiences in life. 

And taking that one step further, IMO, the blame for Caylee's death (morally, not legally) can be laid in part at her grandparents feet.

I agree with you!    ::MonkeyNoNo::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 11:14:46 AM

Pooky? I thought you went to the store.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks for the link.

I did Trimm  ::MonkeyTongue::-- too cold out there so I came back real quick.  We, in NC, are not used to these cold temps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 11:17:02 AM
Peanut - that is the cutest little kitty.    I think you said he is gone, now.   What happened to him?
Sorry for the O/T but I want to pick that kitty up and pet him everytime Peanut posts!

ohh thank you so much, i loved her so so much. i called her my peanut ::MonkeyWink::.

she was a maine coon cat and she died right before her second birthday. :(

we got her when she was really really tiny, and shed always had health issues. shed had seizures before she was even 6 months old. they didnt happen again but she still had some other problems. they say maine coon cats are the puppies of the dog world...and she was very affectionate, friendly and totally good natured. i could go on for hours...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:17:15 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.

Klaas - I hope you don't mind that I add this:

Greta said the skelton of Caylee was contained within the bag.   Implied that it was not scattered.    Sounds to me like something Baez wants everyone to believe.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:17:18 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDance:: I don't believe they weren't there due to the murder investigation. Why else would they be there? Did she smack George with her hammer? Conway is a jacka**.

THANKS KLAAS YOU DA BEST


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 17, 2009, 11:18:15 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning!!!
Morning Sparky!

Morning to Josef's mama and all the other monkeys in the cage . . . to include the quests!

Karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:19:18 AM
Peanut - that is the cutest little kitty.    I think you said he is gone, now.   What happened to him?
Sorry for the O/T but I want to pick that kitty up and pet him everytime Peanut posts!

ohh thank you so much, i loved her so so much. i called her my peanut ::MonkeyWink::.

she was a maine coon cat and she died right before her second birthday. :(

we got her when she was really really tiny, and shed always had health issues. shed had seizures before she was even 6 months old. they didnt happen again but she still had some other problems. they say maine coon cats are the puppies of the dog world...and she was very affectionate, friendly and totally good natured. i could go on for hours...

Poor thing.   She was beautiful.    That's a great photo of her.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 11:19:26 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.

Klaas - I hope you don't mind that I add this:

Greta said the skelton of Caylee was contained within the bag.   Implied that it was not scattered.    Sounds to me like something Baez wants everyone to believe.   

No I don't mind but I just think that's all speculation and BS from the defense side.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:20:16 AM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning!!!
Morning Sparky!

Morning to Josef's mama and all the other monkeys in the cage . . . to include the quests!

Karen

HI!   :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: sharlock on January 17, 2009, 11:21:22 AM


i dont think anyone can say shes 'obviously' anything. i always refer to her as a sociopath because for one, i highly doubt this little narcissist could ever fathom this world going on without her. i also dont think she has any previous instances of doing self harm. i cant say for sure obviously but cindy is a nurse and i dont think shed miss that. well ok she missed her being pregnant but go along with me here for the sake of argument haha.  ::MonkeyWink:: basically what im really trying to say to say is the distinction between the two is a tough call and theres no way to be sure without an extensive evaluation and even then theres blurred edges.

as for your comment about borderline personality disorder im a bit confused. are you saying its not a valid condition?
I kind of agree I think she has multiple issues and at various stages which makes her hard to label really. I disagree though that she is so narcissistic she would never attempt to harm herself. My sister displayed many of these traits and they noticably worsened after she had children. She started self harming and many suicide attempts from about 28 on; it escalates into a woe is me tale of how everyone must be out to get them and then the suicide attempts start but as harsh as this sounds they are mostly for show and attention then acts angry if anyone beleived her enough to call an ambulance. She can be absolutely out of her mind threatening throwing hurting people one minute and when police come she turns into the most rational person in the world. Thats why its hard to get help at first, she has also convinced the psych wards she is fine after suicide attempts and that her family is crazy. Eventually though their files at the police station and mental ward grow and people start to beleive the family but it is nearly always too late by that time.

your sisters suicide attempts may not have been wholehearted but she tried hurting herself for attention. casey went partying and shopping after she murdered caylee(who got too much attention).

please forgive me if i ask this, and you certainly dont have to answer me, i would totally understand if youd rather not. is it your sister you were referring to when you commented on borderline?
She seems to be but has never been formally diagnosed she doesn't think she has a problem. Those times she was looking for attention I agree. They nearly always happen after her current boyfreind leaves. She will kick her kids out if they don't want kids and has done that many times. Then sh too goes out partying without a care in the world where her kids ended up. BUT if her kids leave her even if she told them too and they come to us she goes schizo. They can go anywhere but the family. Of course we still care for them when they need us too but it is hard. Last time I looked after them she called the police and said I kidnapped them lol! She threw them out. She then rang my boss and tried to get me fired and then threatened to kill me. If you do what she wants though she will go back to normal but you have to act like she has done nothing wrong. There is no middle ground with her. My aunt is a psychiatrist and mentioned she believes it is Borderline but we really don't know for sure.
Sorry that was prob waaay more info then you wanted.  ::MonkeyConfused::


oh no, not at all, thank you for telling me. please dont feel that way. bpd is very hard on family members and loved ones, and im very sorry that you and the rest of your family have to go thru that. :smt056
You are sweet!
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/backup674/Smiley/thankyou.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 11:21:22 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.

Klaas - I hope you don't mind that I add this:

Greta said the skelton of Caylee was contained within the bag.   Implied that it was not scattered.    Sounds to me like something Baez wants everyone to believe.   

No I don't mind but I just think that's all speculation and BS from the defense side.

I agree with you.     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: PookyBear on January 17, 2009, 11:21:50 AM
Lessons learned from Casey Anthony case

It is no surprise that the story of missing toddler Caylee Anthony ranked as one of the top stories of 2008—a recent Orlando Sentinel poll ranked Caylee’s disappearance as the #3 story of the year among readers, and the #4 story by the paper’s editorial board. And as Caylee’s mother Casey Anthony prepares to go to trial for the murder of her daughter, there’s little doubt that people will be following this story well into 2009.

While Casey may have become the poster child of bad parenting for a number of obvious reasons--and some that are yet to be determined--there are a few more lessons to be learned from this story.

In many ways the white hot spotlight of the media’s attention kept enough people interested in finding Caylee so that her body was eventually found. One of this week’s biggest local stories was about Roy Kronk, the meter reader who ended up finding the garbage bag that contained Caylee’s remains. (See his interview on Good Morning America HERE.) Even though the body was uncovered in December, reports of a suspicious bag came in as early as August.

Of course, that white hot spotlight of attention directs a very narrow beam. For every well publicized missing child’s case, how many more children remain missing and never get national attention? The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has a long list of children who have been missing for months, sometimes years.

Unfortunately, some people really got burned by the heat of the 24/7 coverage. I can only imagine what it must have been like for parents in that southeast Orlando neighborhood who tried to get their get their kids to school safely without encountering remote TV station trucks and protesters on the Anthony’s front lawn. How did those parents manage to put their kids to bed at night when fights were breaking out in front of the Anthony house?

And while a lot of attention has been focused on the villains in this story, there are a many more anonymous heroes who searched and prayed for Caylee without ever seeking out the spotlight. Many of them were parents themselves, imagining what they would do if their child was missing. People donated money and some volunteers traveled hundreds of miles to wade through the marshlands of east Orange County in an attempt to find Caylee. Perhaps the most hopeful lesson learned is that the vast majority of parents are like the ones who prayed for Caylee’s safe return, and not the infamous toddler mother who apparently put her own desires before the needs of her child.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1022-Orlando-Parenting-Examiner~y2009m1d16-Lessons-learned-from-Casey-Anthony-case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 11:23:07 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


The big question is why they were there and why they were upset.  Maybe charges are pending, or maybe she was upset about the latest release.  It appears from the release that G and C are not liking Baez a whole lot, but they are afraid to really say it to Casey.  They are afraid to say anything to their monster.  She is holding something over their heads methinks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 11:23:07 AM
Peanut - that is the cutest little kitty.    I think you said he is gone, now.   What happened to him?
Sorry for the O/T but I want to pick that kitty up and pet him everytime Peanut posts!

ohh thank you so much, i loved her so so much. i called her my peanut ::MonkeyWink::.

she was a maine coon cat and she died right before her second birthday. :(

we got her when she was really really tiny, and shed always had health issues. shed had seizures before she was even 6 months old. they didnt happen again but she still had some other problems. they say maine coon cats are the puppies of the dog world...and she was very affectionate, friendly and totally good natured. i could go on for hours...

Poor thing.   She was beautiful.    That's a great photo of her.     

i can still see her looking at me that way  :smt060 :smt060 :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: OriginalKat on January 17, 2009, 11:25:16 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Monken on January 17, 2009, 11:25:50 AM
Monken, those statements about a sociopath are very helpful.  Casey is constantly looking for sympathy or pity from others.  It is a weapon she uses against her parents all the time, as we have seen in the video interviews.  SHE is the victim.  SHE is in pain.  SHE has problems.  If her parents start to stand up for themselves, she threatens to hang up the phone or starts to blame them for anything that has gone wrong.  She quickly gets them, especially Cindy, back in line.  I can see Casey saying, "I don't want Caylee, but I will see her dead before Mom gets her."  I think she is jealous, resentful, spiteful and won't tolerate anyone else, even a baby, getting more attention or sympathy from people. 

Yes.

And IMO the tape is very telling...it shows that Casey is really the "controller" in the Anthony household.  Everytime we see a video of George, Cindy or Lee with Casey, they're all bending over backwards to talk with her and not get the wrath of Casey's anger.  She's a very angry person and I think that started many years ago when she realized that spouting off anger would get people to jump to her conclusions (think about the birthday party for Casey's friend and Casey calling home angry that everyone was paying attention to the birthday girl and not Casey....this manipulation by Casey goes back many years).

I'm thinking that the master manipulator, Casey, is really the one that controls the Anthony's household and that Cindy, comes in second and controller over George.  Obviously, and you can see it in the tape, Cindy has no control over Casey.



Not excusing Casey for her behavior at all, just saying that her anger seems beyond a mere anger, it seems to be an uncontrollable rage.  Anyone who has lived with this type of person usually does tiptoe around em, walking on eggshells. 

There is a reason for this rage in Casey.  Not something that developed overnight.  This would have me looking into her childhood experiences for the answers of why/what/how etc. 

Again, not to excuse Casey for the way she is today, or what she very likely did to Caylee, but to help understand the situation better.  Because understanding Casey may help those of us who have a sociopath in our lives understand that person better, and God help us. 

Taking it one step further, it hopefully will bring an understanding for everyone in society on how to avoid helping to create such a person in the future, if such a person is indeed created by experiences in life, not born that way.  Which is still in dispute by many psych docs.  IMO, a person such as Casey is a mixture of both genetics and experiences in life. 

And taking that one step further, IMO, the blame for Caylee's death (morally, not legally) can be laid in part at her grandparents feet.


I believe she is a mixture as well, Wyks. There are people out there now, trying to get legislation passed to protect people who have been victims of sociopaths. Until there is better understanding of just what these individuals are & what to do with them, the situation is pretty much hopeless though. I will pray for divine intervention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 11:29:09 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:31:06 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee   and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 
Oh I hope so! That would make this monkey very happy!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: canadagirl on January 17, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


Hi.....You can see it on YouTube now.   Here's the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjILEF5iMU&feature=channel_page      Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJYTiqrjXM&feature=channel               Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG84di5z60A&feature=channel_page      at the crime scene with Conway


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


Hi.....You can see it on YouTube now.   Here's the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjILEF5iMU&feature=channel_page      Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJYTiqrjXM&feature=channel               Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG84di5z60A&feature=channel_page      at the crime scene with Conway
THank You so much!! I was going to go car shopping, but I think I will watch this instead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 11:34:02 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee   and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 
Oh I hope so! That would make this monkey very happy!  ::MonkeyDance::

His laughter at the smell of the car wasn't nervous laughter to me.  I listened to it many times.  He actually finds it amusing.  When he threw the dogs water bowl away he showed signs of the same affliction Cindy and Casey have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:36:42 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee   and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 
Oh I hope so! That would make this monkey very happy!  ::MonkeyDance::

His laughter at the smell of the car wasn't nervous laughter to me.  I listened to it many times.  He actually finds it amusing.  When he threw the dogs water bowl away he showed signs of the same affliction Cindy and Casey have.
ITA. I listened to it too many times. Just made me sick the way he laughed through the whole interview.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:37:17 AM
Not excusing Casey for her behavior at all, just saying that her anger seems beyond a mere anger, it seems to be an uncontrollable rage.  Anyone who has lived with this type of person usually does tiptoe around em, walking on eggshells. 

There is a reason for this rage in Casey.  Not something that developed overnight.  This would have me looking into her childhood experiences for the answers of why/what/how etc. 

Again, not to excuse Casey for the way she is today, or what she very likely did to Caylee, but to help understand the situation better.  Because understanding Casey may help those of us who have a sociopath in our lives understand that person better, and God help us. 

Taking it one step further, it hopefully will bring an understanding for everyone in society on how to avoid helping to create such a person in the future, if such a person is indeed created by experiences in life, not born that way.  Which is still in dispute by many psych docs.  IMO, a person such as Casey is a mixture of both genetics and experiences in life. 

And taking that one step further, IMO, the blame for Caylee's death (morally, not legally) can be laid in part at her grandparents feet.


I believe she is a mixture as well, Wyks. There are people out there now, trying to get legislation passed to protect people who have been victims of sociopaths. Until there is better understanding of just what these individuals are & what to do with them, the situation is pretty much hopeless though. I will pray for divine intervention.

Me too!  It may take awhile, but at least they have taken the first major step.  It took awhile for the reality of domestic violence to sink in and to come up with ways to better protect the victims of such, yet it seems to be helping, bit by bit. 

In fact, yesterday my two younger sons and I were each applying for our own apts in an apt bldg near here, and both sons had to sign some type of form saying that they would NOT be violent to any woman in the apt or on the premises.  I say that form is a good step in the right direction for society.  It could be taken a step further in having both men and women sign papers like that.  Cuz domestic violence isn't always men toward women.  Anyway, it's a step.  Just like they are trying to do with other things that would protect victims.  Gotta start somewhere.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 11:37:36 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 11:38:14 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.
Maybe she is getting harassing/threatening email and/or phone calls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: FloridaKatz on January 17, 2009, 11:39:12 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDance:: I don't believe they weren't there due to the murder investigation. Why else would they be there? Did she smack George with her hammer? Conway is a jacka**.

THANKS KLAAS YOU DA BEST

Morning Monkeys !  I don't have it handy, but there is a way you can go to the OCSO website and look up the call report roster, which will show why the police were at the A's house.  It will give an abbreviation for the call reference (i.e. DC = Domestic Call, etc.).  I'll see if I can find it and post it here.

If it was just the normal detectives in the case who were visiting the A's, then it wouldn't be logged in the OCSO call log.  (It's only for incoming calls requesting police assistance that they log).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on January 17, 2009, 11:39:15 AM
So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?
Food Channel
I think she spends her tv hour searching for news about this case,flipping thru channels.I think when she was spending those loving 6 hour days with Jose,she was reading right here at ScaredMonkeys.....the whole time.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:39:42 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
Hey Wyks.  ::MonkeyDance:: Good to see you.  :smt058
I agree with what you said.That little glimpse of Casey's temper.That doesn't happen over night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 11:40:41 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


Hi.....You can see it on YouTube now.   Here's the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjILEF5iMU&feature=channel_page      Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJYTiqrjXM&feature=channel               Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG84di5z60A&feature=channel_page      at the crime scene with Conway
THank You so much!! I was going to go car shopping, but I think I will watch this instead.

Get a Jeep!! You won't regret it and Joe will look so cool with the top down and the breeze blowing through his hair! You can even buy him a Jeep bandana and some black Risky Business sunglasses!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 17, 2009, 11:41:31 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.
Maybe she is getting harassing/threatening email and/or phone calls.

Maybe George smacked her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:42:37 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.
Maybe she is getting harassing/threatening email and/or phone calls.

Maybe Cindy had her hands around the neck of either George or Lee?   ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:42:46 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


Hi.....You can see it on YouTube now.   Here's the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjILEF5iMU&feature=channel_page      Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJYTiqrjXM&feature=channel               Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG84di5z60A&feature=channel_page      at the crime scene with Conway
THank You so much!! I was going to go car shopping, but I think I will watch this instead.

Get a Jeep!! You won't regret it and Joe will look so cool with the top down and the breeze blowing through his hair! You can even buy him a Jeep bandana and some black Risky Business sunglasses!
I would love to have a jeep. I can't afford one though. Probably have to get a Kia or something really cheap.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I don't want to buy a new car, I hate car payments, but mine is about on it's last leg. I may look at a jeep though just cause Joe would look cute in one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: da sparkenator on January 17, 2009, 11:44:04 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee   and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 
Oh I hope so! That would make this monkey very happy!  ::MonkeyDance::

His laughter at the smell of the car wasn't nervous laughter to me.  I listened to it many times.  He actually finds it amusing.  When he threw the dogs water bowl away he showed signs of the same affliction Cindy and Casey have.
ITA. I listened to it too many times. Just made me sick the way he laughed through the whole interview.

Lee exhibits some of the same socially inappropriate reactions/behaviors that Casey exhibits.  Their behavior seems at best illogical, at worst very very cruel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 11:45:15 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:45:20 AM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.


The big question is why they were there and why they were upset.  Maybe charges are pending, or maybe she was upset about the latest release.  It appears from the release that G and C are not liking Baez a whole lot, but they are afraid to really say it to Casey.  They are afraid to say anything to their monster.  She is holding something over their heads methinks.

I agree Russ.  And it does seem that Casey is holding something over their heads, yeppers.  Still trying to figure out what that could be.  Something huge and major it would seem. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:45:44 AM
Not excusing Casey for her behavior at all, just saying that her anger seems beyond a mere anger, it seems to be an uncontrollable rage.  Anyone who has lived with this type of person usually does tiptoe around em, walking on eggshells. 

There is a reason for this rage in Casey.  Not something that developed overnight.  This would have me looking into her childhood experiences for the answers of why/what/how etc. 

Again, not to excuse Casey for the way she is today, or what she very likely did to Caylee, but to help understand the situation better.  Because understanding Casey may help those of us who have a sociopath in our lives understand that person better, and God help us. 

Taking it one step further, it hopefully will bring an understanding for everyone in society on how to avoid helping to create such a person in the future, if such a person is indeed created by experiences in life, not born that way.  Which is still in dispute by many psych docs.  IMO, a person such as Casey is a mixture of both genetics and experiences in life. 

And taking that one step further, IMO, the blame for Caylee's death (morally, not legally) can be laid in part at her grandparents feet.


I believe she is a mixture as well, Wyks. There are people out there now, trying to get legislation passed to protect people who have been victims of sociopaths. Until there is better understanding of just what these individuals are & what to do with them, the situation is pretty much hopeless though. I will pray for divine intervention.

Me too!  It may take awhile, but at least they have taken the first major step.  It took awhile for the reality of domestic violence to sink in and to come up with ways to better protect the victims of such, yet it seems to be helping, bit by bit. 

In fact, yesterday my two younger sons and I were each applying for our own apts in an apt bldg near here, and both sons had to sign some type of form saying that they would NOT be violent to any woman in the apt or on the premises.  I say that form is a good step in the right direction for society.  It could be taken a step further in having both men and women sign papers like that.  Cuz domestic violence isn't always men toward women.  Anyway, it's a step.  Just like they are trying to do with other things that would protect victims.  Gotta start somewhere.
 
Hi Wyks, in my apartment lease it states that if you are "arrested" for an assault against a person, you are evicted no matter if it happened on the property or off. I never have read my lease until I renewed it this year. I thought that was pretty interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:47:05 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::
Thanks Boo! I know you can't tell, but any hint you give me makes me and Joe happy!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Golden Oldie on January 17, 2009, 11:47:42 AM
HEY, DON'T LEAVE THE CAGE WITHOUT ME THIS TIME.  I ONLY HAVE 24 MORE PAGES TO GO.    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: darla on January 17, 2009, 11:48:10 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Good Morning Monkeys......More tears for Cindy sounds good to me!!!!!Just hope she is in handcuffs when they come.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:50:24 AM
Hey Wyks.  ::MonkeyDance:: Good to see you.  :smt058
I agree with what you said.That little glimpse of Casey's temper.That doesn't happen over night.

Hey trimm!  Good to see you too!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/smileyduo.gif)

Yeah, that temper, heh.  I can surely testify to walking on eggshells around such a person.  Not cuz it's the right thing to do, but to avoid having a blowup 24/7.  Kind of like, choose your battles, (choose which thing really really matters in having a blowup over, choose which hill ya want to die on).  This being quite literal in some cases, such as with Casey.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::


You are killing this dumb monkey because he can't read between the lines very well.

 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 11:54:04 AM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::


You are killing this dumb monkey because he can't read between the lines very well.

 ::MonkeyTongue::
Of course you can't read between the lines, YOU'RE A GUY!!!!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:54:56 AM
Me too!  It may take awhile, but at least they have taken the first major step.  It took awhile for the reality of domestic violence to sink in and to come up with ways to better protect the victims of such, yet it seems to be helping, bit by bit. 

In fact, yesterday my two younger sons and I were each applying for our own apts in an apt bldg near here, and both sons had to sign some type of form saying that they would NOT be violent to any woman in the apt or on the premises.  I say that form is a good step in the right direction for society.  It could be taken a step further in having both men and women sign papers like that.  Cuz domestic violence isn't always men toward women.  Anyway, it's a step.  Just like they are trying to do with other things that would protect victims.  Gotta start somewhere.
 
Hi Wyks, in my apartment lease it states that if you are "arrested" for an assault against a person, you are evicted no matter if it happened on the property or off. I never have read my lease until I renewed it this year. I thought that was pretty interesting.

That's a good thing being done too, joesamas mama! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
Wyks... I agree with your post, I have questioned if something traumatic happened to Casey. It would be interesting to know more about her childhood, I also am not making any excuses for her actions and behavior. I have to say watching that last interview that was released I had sympathy for George and Cindy, with my younger daughter there were many occasions that I had to walk on eggshells, because you never knew what would set her temper off. Watching them talk to Casey kind of reminded me of the days I basically was doing the same, being very careful with what words and tone I used with my daughter. Thank God with medication and help my daughter is a whole different person now, but seeing Cindy in that last tape and the look on her face really got to me. I am by no means condoning the behavior of George and Cindy with everything they have done to help Casey, but the desperate look on Cindy's face reminded me of the helpless look that was on my face for years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:58:26 AM
Wyks... I agree with your post, I have questioned if something traumatic happened to Casey. It would be interesting to know more about her childhood, I also am not making any excuses for her actions and behavior. I have to say watching that last interview that was released I had sympathy for George and Cindy, with my younger daughter there were many occasions that I had to walk on eggshells, because you never knew what would set her temper off. Watching them talk to Casey kind of reminded me of the days I basically was doing the same, being very careful with what words and tone I used with my daughter. Thank God with medication and help my daughter is a whole different person now, but seeing Cindy in that last tape and the look on her face really got to me. I am by no means condoning the behavior of George and Cindy with everything they have done to help Casey, but the desperate look on Cindy's face reminded me of the helpless look that was on my face for years.
I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT, I actually felt sorry for Cindy in the video. George too. KC has the upper hand and she knows it. She is putting a knife into Cindy through out the video. It reminded me of when my brother went through his craziness and what it did to my mom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 11:58:59 AM
You are killing this dumb monkey because he can't read between the lines very well.

 ::MonkeyTongue::

pssssst!  you aren't a dumb monkey!  you not supposed to call anyone (including yourself) names in here, i'm gonna tell klaas!   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyWink::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 11:59:33 AM
Me too!  It may take awhile, but at least they have taken the first major step.  It took awhile for the reality of domestic violence to sink in and to come up with ways to better protect the victims of such, yet it seems to be helping, bit by bit. 

In fact, yesterday my two younger sons and I were each applying for our own apts in an apt bldg near here, and both sons had to sign some type of form saying that they would NOT be violent to any woman in the apt or on the premises.  I say that form is a good step in the right direction for society.  It could be taken a step further in having both men and women sign papers like that.  Cuz domestic violence isn't always men toward women.  Anyway, it's a step.  Just like they are trying to do with other things that would protect victims.  Gotta start somewhere.
 
Hi Wyks, in my apartment lease it states that if you are "arrested" for an assault against a person, you are evicted no matter if it happened on the property or off. I never have read my lease until I renewed it this year. I thought that was pretty interesting.

That's a good thing being done too, joesamas mama! 

Yes it is a good thing. I guess I won't be going to Florida to kick Cin Cin in the behind. Joe and I would be evicted and left on the street.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 17, 2009, 12:02:42 PM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 

They may have told them they got the information from the phone company as to whom D. Casey was talking to while searching they know it was one of them.  They may have gone to question them, since it was the detectives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
Was there anything said about when the remains would be released to the family ?
I know that the defense experts have to be finished with them forever as there is cremation being spoken of and if they ever want an exhumation if no creamtion they have to get permission and it is a big legal mess, but WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THEIR SERVICE ? Did Greta ever ask that of Conway ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: GramaMonkey on January 17, 2009, 12:03:09 PM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Good Morning Monkeys......More tears for Cindy sounds good to me!!!!!Just hope she is in handcuffs when they come.

First of all, I don't think Conway would devuldge why they were there, and secondly, I think he would deny if it is part of the investigation.

Maybe they were there to see LEE...remember his pic somewhat was close to the one released in the NIKKI murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: QuietMonkey on January 17, 2009, 12:03:29 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Wyks... I agree with your post, I have questioned if something traumatic happened to Casey. It would be interesting to know more about her childhood, I also am not making any excuses for her actions and behavior. I have to say watching that last interview that was released I had sympathy for George and Cindy, with my younger daughter there were many occasions that I had to walk on eggshells, because you never knew what would set her temper off. Watching them talk to Casey kind of reminded me of the days I basically was doing the same, being very careful with what words and tone I used with my daughter. Thank God with medication and help my daughter is a whole different person now, but seeing Cindy in that last tape and the look on her face really got to me. I am by no means condoning the behavior of George and Cindy with everything they have done to help Casey, but the desperate look on Cindy's face reminded me of the helpless look that was on my face for years.

Awwww no rose cg... (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif)   I'm sorry for what you had to go thru with your daughter, and am very glad to know that things are better!  And I totally agree what you've said.  There are times when I can so relate with how G&C must be feeling, have empathy for them, understanding how desperate they may be feeling, how very helpless.  Then they go and do/say something that just pissssssssssssses me off, making me better understand how Casey must be feeling.  Jeeez it's like getting whiplash with this family!   ::MonkeyConfused::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!
I like your new avi!!! Pizza and Beer my two most favorite food groups! I think they would get along too, as long as Joe had a muzzle on.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 

They may have told them they got the information from the phone company as to whom D. Casey was talking to while searching they know it was one of them.  They may have gone to question them, since it was the detectives.
  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe that is it. Good thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Foggy Dew on January 17, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure


Well, imagine that alleged perp killed Caylee to get back at her mother.  But before that she was rejected by Kio (?), so since alleged perp had such useful knowledge and they weren't close anymore, she chose to use those residences as convenient alibis as to location and get back at Kio at the same time.  Considering how vindictive she is (if indeed she killed her daughter to spite her mother, I don't think its outside of the realm of possibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: cecilita on January 17, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
Do you guys have the video of the As tlking in jail


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 17, 2009, 12:08:03 PM
Good morning to you early morning monkeys

Good morning Muffy, you too, Trimm.


Hey Pooky.
Did you see Greta last night? I can't watch it and wondered if there was anything interesting.
Trimm:  I did watch it and one thing I found interesting is that Greta kept talking with Dr. Baden and Mark Furman about the fact that all of Caylee's bones were contained in the bag.  That was not my understanding.  I understood that the crime scene investigators and FBI crawled on their hands and knees for 8 days trying to find a complete skeleton.  She made the point that they would have been scattered and because they were not the body must have been moved.  Have I missed something or is she wrong?

She was wrong and I wrote her about it. All of a sudden Fox has become an apologist for the Anthonys. I asked her if Geraldo and Fox were footing the bill for all the expensive experts in this case. She had Mark on, but would not let him talk. I would much rather heard what he thought than all the apologists who have vested interests in this case. Baden should have to qualify his wife's position in the case before being allowed to speak. Baez was asked NOTHING but allowed to spout his BS.  I am not going to watch them anymore about this case if they don't get their info straight and I told Greta that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!
I love it, my cat Koshka who lived to be 18 loved popcorn.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 12:09:58 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!
I like your new avi!!! Pizza and Beer my two most favorite food groups! I think they would get along too, as long as Joe had a muzzle on.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   My cats still have all their claws - so they would learn to get along with time, I'm sure!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 12:10:02 PM


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 ::MonkeyDance:: I just want to say hi to my monkey friends! I'm actually behind and have skipped several sections of pages (like the 70's & some of the 90's). I hope I haven't skipped anything new or important. Just been on here sporadically the last 24hrs, and I get impatient trying to catch up!!
Hi, BOO! I hope you're ok, I didn't really didn't see you yesterday. Hope you're feeling better!!

Hey Quiet, I skipped the 80's in real life and I didn't miss much either! I have today and tomorrow off so I'm going to be resting on and off today!! Thanks for asking!  :smt026


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
Do you guys have the video of the As tlking in jail


I used this.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18489212/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 12:11:47 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!
I like your new avi!!! Pizza and Beer my two most favorite food groups! I think they would get along too, as long as Joe had a muzzle on.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   My cats still have all their claws - so they would learn to get along with time, I'm sure!
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Then I bet they could take him on with no problem.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 17, 2009, 12:12:02 PM
Morning Monkeys, morning JSM! I miss all the best stuff when I go to bed!! Good post Ilovegoodies! I hope we can track that info to a rep source. It would be nice to maybe have some inside info on what Kio's testimony would be like. Or even the Annie tapes! My God, I don't think Watergate was THIS complicated!!  ::MonkeyShocked::
Morning Boo. Did you see that LE went to see Cindy's house yesterday and she was upset! Got any info? Joe needs a pizza fix  ::MonkeyCool::
I only saw that this morning! I wanna know what is going on too!! Sorry no info on that, but expect more tears in the future from Ms. Cindy, that I can tell you!! I feel so bad for Joe and his pizza fix. Tell the baby it just takes a bit for this information to be put together and then presented. I'm not the driving source so to speak, I'm just um, well, I can't say what I'm doing, but I am doing it as quickly as I can. I'm helping, put it that way. I'm pretty sure the first week in February will be the absolute latest that Joe will have to wait. Crossing my paws!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Good Morning Monkeys......More tears for Cindy sounds good to me!!!!!Just hope she is in handcuffs when they come.

First of all, I don't think Conway would devuldge why they were there, and secondly, I think he would deny if it is part of the investigation.

Maybe they were there to see LEE...remember his pic somewhat was close to the one released in the NIKKI murder.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
Hey JSM - See my new avi?   I think Joe and my kitties would get along good.   My kitties like pizza, too!
I love it, my cat Koshka who lived to be 18 loved popcorn.

I love that name!   
My cats love bananas, watermelon, and canalope.   Weird cats.   Sorry for the O/T.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 12:16:35 PM
Wyks... I agree with your post, I have questioned if something traumatic happened to Casey. It would be interesting to know more about her childhood, I also am not making any excuses for her actions and behavior. I have to say watching that last interview that was released I had sympathy for George and Cindy, with my younger daughter there were many occasions that I had to walk on eggshells, because you never knew what would set her temper off. Watching them talk to Casey kind of reminded me of the days I basically was doing the same, being very careful with what words and tone I used with my daughter. Thank God with medication and help my daughter is a whole different person now, but seeing Cindy in that last tape and the look on her face really got to me. I am by no means condoning the behavior of George and Cindy with everything they have done to help Casey, but the desperate look on Cindy's face reminded me of the helpless look that was on my face for years.

Awwww no rose cg... (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif)   I'm sorry for what you had to go thru with your daughter, and am very glad to know that things are better!  And I totally agree what you've said.  There are times when I can so relate with how G&C must be feeling, have empathy for them, understanding how desperate they may be feeling, how very helpless.  Then they go and do/say something that just pissssssssssssses me off, making me better understand how Casey must be feeling.  Jeeez it's like getting whiplash with this family!   ::MonkeyConfused::
 
Exactly George and Cindy have said and done so many things that make no sense what so ever, but I tend to think like other people here, that Casey must be holding something over their head, and it must be real bad. I also think the guilt that George and Cindy must have is causing them to have a painful, slow death. I keep hoping they come to their senses, and just be honest and deal with the facts, but they just aren't going to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 12:16:52 PM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure


Well, imagine that alleged perp killed Caylee to get back at her mother.  But before that she was rejected by Kio (?), so since alleged perp had such useful knowledge and they weren't close anymore, she chose to use those residences as convenient alibis as to location and get back at Kio at the same time.  Considering how vindictive she is (if indeed she killed her daughter to spite her mother, I don't think its outside of the realm of possibility.

hmmmm.. so is it possible that Casey put Caylee in the Anthony's backyard for awhile, left her in the trunk of their car for awhile, to implicate her parents.... then put Caylee's remains where she did right behind those houses, maybe to implicate Kio's relatives as well?  Kind of like taking down several who she was angry with?  Just when I was beginning to believe that Casey had simply taken the easiest way out.  Seems there actually may have been some devious planning out way ahead of time.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: BooMonkey on January 17, 2009, 12:17:24 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 12:18:57 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::


POST  POST POST
::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: San on January 17, 2009, 12:19:23 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::

I have noticed it slows down when we hit page 98  ::MonkeyHaHa::  It's not like we are going to break.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 12:20:02 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::


POST  POST POST
::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::


BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 12:20:11 PM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure


Well, imagine that alleged perp killed Caylee to get back at her mother.  But before that she was rejected by Kio (?), so since alleged perp had such useful knowledge and they weren't close anymore, she chose to use those residences as convenient alibis as to location and get back at Kio at the same time.  Considering how vindictive she is (if indeed she killed her daughter to spite her mother, I don't think its outside of the realm of possibility.
Could very well be, she probably has a list a mile long with all the people she wanted to get back at. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 12:21:37 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::

I have noticed it slows down when we hit page 98  ::MonkeyHaHa::  It's not like we are going to break.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Stay on topc
No dirty words.
Be kind to other posters.    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Sassycat on January 17, 2009, 12:22:27 PM
How come no one wants to post the last 2 pages? We can't get a clean cage until we do!! So come on!!
My cats are Akasha, Isabella, Calista, Oliver, Atticus, Gideon, and Apollo, 2 dogs Bailey (Boo) and Grissom.
Sorry for the off topic but we have to move these pages forward!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Wow Boo.   You have lots of cats!     ::MonkeyDance::    I love your animal names, too.

My cat names are boring....    Sassycat, Rocky, Babygirl, and Cocoa.        ::MonkeyTongue::

We need a new cage, but this cage has a lot of interesting stuff in it.    Lots of smart monkeys, I must say!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:22:40 PM
upppppppppppppp ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: San on January 17, 2009, 12:23:03 PM
Stay on topc
No dirty words.
Be kind to other posters.    ::MonkeyDance::

And brush your teeth and clean your ears.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 17, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 12:24:14 PM
Klaas is everywhere.She is a super monkey.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:24:17 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: peanut on January 17, 2009, 12:24:54 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.
::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 12:25:09 PM
now the first part the Zenida on Hopespring is one of Kio Marie's relatives. There is a whole thread on WS that I found after I did all that dang research. The parallels are really astonishing or at least I thought so but in the end it seems like Kio didn't see KC in the yr so go figure


Well, imagine that alleged perp killed Caylee to get back at her mother.  But before that she was rejected by Kio (?), so since alleged perp had such useful knowledge and they weren't close anymore, she chose to use those residences as convenient alibis as to location and get back at Kio at the same time.  Considering how vindictive she is (if indeed she killed her daughter to spite her mother, I don't think its outside of the realm of possibility.

Could very well be, she probably has a list a mile long with all the people she wanted to get back at. ::MonkeyEek::

Very true!!  It's mind-boggling that Caylee's remains were found directly behind and between Zenaida's house and Gonzales' house.  And the address numbers to their houses end in a 1 and a 9.  And Casey dropped Caylee off at Zenaida's 'between' 9 and 1. 

Geeeeeeeeez... MIND-BOGGLING!!!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 17, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.


In mt gut...yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 12:26:34 PM
OK, let's get into the new thread so I can get something done today  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: joesamas mama on January 17, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.


In mt gut...yes.
I don't why do you think Trimm?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Tater on January 17, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
Wyks... I agree with your post, I have questioned if something traumatic happened to Casey. It would be interesting to know more about her childhood, I also am not making any excuses for her actions and behavior. I have to say watching that last interview that was released I had sympathy for George and Cindy, with my younger daughter there were many occasions that I had to walk on eggshells, because you never knew what would set her temper off. Watching them talk to Casey kind of reminded me of the days I basically was doing the same, being very careful with what words and tone I used with my daughter. Thank God with medication and help my daughter is a whole different person now, but seeing Cindy in that last tape and the look on her face really got to me. I am by no means condoning the behavior of George and Cindy with everything they have done to help Casey, but the desperate look on Cindy's face reminded me of the helpless look that was on my face for years.

We are one of the same..This is exactly my experience as well except for the medication..Mine just seemed to mature and is a very well rounded person now.I agree with everything you've said here Rose!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: San on January 17, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
OK, let's get into the new thread so I can get something done today  ::MonkeyHaHa::

OK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Wyks on January 17, 2009, 12:27:18 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.

I do.  Not sure how tho.  As well as the break in to that other Zenaida's office.  Yep. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Russ on January 17, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
Do a lot of monkeys really feel there is a connection btw Nichole's death in Blanchard Park, and Casey? I don't but anything is possible.


That was just Casey alibi.  She killed this woman so that when Caylee disappeared everyone would think a vicious serial killer was loose.  jmo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Today on January 17, 2009, 12:27:25 PM
KLAAS

I'm way behind, can you fill me in on what Greta was about last night, please?

I promise I won't bother you again today!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, JSM

she went to Orlando to the crime scene.  Met with Conway.  Mentioned that yesterday police had arrived at the Anthony's house and that Cindy Anthony seemed very upset.  Conway said police were there but it didn't pertain to the murder investigation.  As far as I know we don't know why they were there.  The usual talk about forensics, etc.  Not alot new.
What would make Cindy so upset if it wasn't about this case? I don't think anything could be more upsetting than this case myself.


Maybe something is coming out regarding things previous to the case, maybe concerning Lee and they are giving a heads up.  It would have nothing to do with the case in a literal sense, but in a big picture sense it would. 

They may have told them they got the information from the phone company as to whom D. Casey was talking to while searching they know it was one of them.  They may have gone to question them, since it was the detectives.
You only come see us when you are on a time out :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: Ms Sam on January 17, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
SassyCat:

I havea SassyCat too.. and a CeCe and a Puss and a Boots. 4 dogs... Tilly, Rosebud, Poppy and BJ... AND, last but not least... DaisyBird, TikiBird and the Bobbsey Boy Birds!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: klaasend on January 17, 2009, 12:27:45 PM
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Please move to Cayle #93

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4412.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #92
Post by: TURBOTHINK on January 17, 2009, 12:27:51 PM
Can someone please tell me how to send a PM to another member? Pretty please. LOL