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On WS, I read that Juliette Lewis (Casey's phantom friend she claimed she had told about Caylee's "kidnapping," along with Jeff Hopkins) had acted in a movie called "Enough" which featured a child who looks like Caylee.  The movie came out in 2002.

Curious, and knowing what an avid movie buff Casey apparently is, I thought I'd check out Juliette Lewis's character name in the movie, as well as the plot line.  Well, the name thing didn't pan out, as JL plays a best friend character called "Ginny" which doesn't really ring any big bells.

But all it took was a couple of viewings of two movie trailers -- I have not seen the movie itself -- to catch some really amazing parallels.  I mean the kind that gave me real goosebumps and that eerie, creepy feeling... you know the one, I'm sure!

I wanted to share what I found with the smart, clue-y sleuthers at Scared Monkeys and set it up like a sort of Treasure-Hunt/Matching-Game.

So, with Bearly's help (thanks, Bearly) I thought I would set it up like this;  I'll post a "still" from the movie trailer for "Enough" -- along with some notes -- and see what any interested monkeys might come up with to match it, searching among the case photos, transcripts, and other evidence we have access to.  I am too tired to find all the matching pieces, and don't know where to look for every single fact, but I know they are there.  So I'm setting this up for any monkeys that would like to help and need something to do while we wait for hearings/trials and doc dumps. 

Just for the record, I see this as simply an interesting diversion and exercise in sleuthing, I don't expect it to lead to any big answers or to solve the case!

Here is an example.  Here is a picture from the movie, followed by a real-life picture that resembles it.  After that, I'll post some more, and see if anyone would like to try to make the connections.

Okay, here's another one:

This still from the movie shows the little girl in a yellow dress, with pigtails.  It is a happy day.

It reminds me of a picture I saw of Caylee, I think at Easter... with a similar dress and pigtails.  Anybody have that pic somewhere?

Here's a "mug shot" of the lead character "Slim" (played by J-Lo in the movie), after changing her appearance.  This picture is for a passport(?) or maybe just a new driver license with a fake identity, as she's trying to hide herself and her daughter from her abusive psycho hubby.

It reminded me of Casey's arrest mug shots.

Some of the "matching" items will not be photographs.  Maybe just a clip from a news article, or a quote from a transcript or interview somewhere.  Like this one -- maybe someone can find the parallel to the Caylee Anthony casefor this -- I know it's out there -- and reply (TIA).  This image reminded me of someone (Cindy? George?) describing how patiently and lovingly Casey would discipline Caylee, by setting her up on a countertop and speaking to her face to face firmly but gently.  Was this in an interview?  Or maybe the bond hearing?:

This one may be a "stretch" and kind of boring, but it still caught my eye:

Okay, it is very late here, so I'm just going to post what I captured from the trailers and leave it to anyone who would like to help me with this little "project."

After I get some rest and get caught up with real-life responsibilities, I'll check back in and also try to find some matches myself.

So here's another scene from the movie, and I'll continue on and post all the ones I saved. BTW they are not in proper order to correspond with the storyline of the movie; they sort of jump around, sorry.

And the brand-new mother:

(ooooooooooooops, sorry, doubled the pic there -- kind of new at this.)

The house that J-Lo's character just HAD to have...

Little girl in a pink swimsuit at the beach... (I know I've seen a pic of Caylee in a similar swimsuit)

Anger gets out of hand, the fight is due to jealousy.

In a rage, he attacks and chokes her.  The little girl tries to defend her mommy.

She goes to the police for help, but they are incompetent and maybe corrupt.  What does she wear for this interview with LE?  Why, none other than a blue hoodie!

Best friend and confidant:  Juliette Lewis...

Didn't Casey text Amy about having broken/cracked/bruised ribs?  When she was supposedly sick, I believe?

Maybe there is no proof of this, but I know someone (LP?) (??) has proposed a theory about Caylee being taken by Casey out of the house in the middle of the night.  Can't remember where I read it, though.

The little girl in the movie has a favorite cuddly made of pink cloth.  She carries it with her as they go from place to place.  (I have a pic on my PC of Caylee's "mama" doll, but too too tired to get it... I'll come back later and post one if no one else does.)

They flee to a motel in the middle of the night... I do remember LP said Casey was "seen" (on security video?) in a motel parking lot on the night Caylee dissappeared... I think...

I know I have seen a video of Casey filming Caylee jumping on the bed with glee.  Similar to this scene (only I believe Caylee was much younger at that time).

But they have to flee again, so J-Lo ("Slim") thinks to take refuge with an old boyfriend who is always dependable.  As they ride in his car, the little girl looks very much like Caylee, wearing pink sunglasses.  I don't have the pic, but I've seen one where she has on bunny ears and pink sunglasses, looking in a mirror with Casey...

Remember Casey going to Jesse's place to shower?  Early July, I believe, when TL was out of town... she was on the outs with her mom and couldn't shower at home or at Tony's, so she came to his house...

  In the movie, J-Lo and her little girl shower at the ex boyfriend's house, since they have nowhere else (safe) to go.

Caylee animatedly and charmingly reads a book...

So does the little girl in the movie.

Now, I can't for the life of me remember what exactly Casey or Cindy said about not trusting the cops, or the FBI.

But in this movie ('Enough") the evil psycho abusive husband is in cahoots with these goons that are either actual crooked FBI agents, or maybe are just posing as FBI.  The daddy has reported the child kidnapped.

"Slim" needs a fake ID to move away and try to evade the bad guy.

Does anyone know:  Do we have evidence (besides the excellent work recently posted by Blink) that Casey was using fake ID's?

Trash bags in the trunk of Slim's car... creepy, isn't it?

What details do we have about the trash bag that was found in the car when GA and CA picked it up at the tow yard?  And I know there were some LE evidence photos of that trash... Oh, and Dr. Lee's suggestion about frozen food or something???

And then there were the other trash bags that were likely in that trunk....
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is rather disturbing, in light of what we've heard of the duct tape evidence.  What exactly have we heard about duct tape, anyway?  I mean fact, not just speculation...?  Anyone know?

In the movie, the mom silences the frightened child with her hand, rather than duct tape.  Still looks so creepy...

NOTE:  In that previous pic, the child is still holding onto her little BOOK......

This shot reminds me of a pic I do have (but for now too lazy to find/retrieve it...)  Maybe someone else has it, too, or a better one...

It's from the nursing home visit on 6/15.  A particular look on Caylee's face in that video, or maybe it was actually a photo taken during the visit with PaPa.

Anyway, this pic from the movie made me sad -- reminded me of Caylee.

Here are three more that I thought were similar to the story in the Caylee Anthony case.

We have: 

[1] A missing child being put on the phone to briefly speak to the parent still at home.  Then the adult takes the phone away from her and abruptly cuts short the call.  Like the supposed call from Caylee on 7/15....   Wasn't there supposed to have been some kind of phone or text contact from ZFG to Casey on the 12th as well?  What was that about?  And what about Cindy and Grandma Shirley talking about Shirley having possibly receiving a message from Caylee?

[2] The child making a serious face in her car sear, while Mommy turns from the driver's seat to look at her.  This so reminds me of the car-seat pics of Caylee... I love them, but they have always given me a very uneasy feeling.... can't really say why.

[3] The mommy sitting on some outdoor steps, distraught... She has no money and is scared for her life and her child's life.  She has to leave her child with her friend (Juliette Lewis again) so she can come up with a plan to end the terror...  She's sitting on the steps with her child, crying.  What exactly did Casey say about those steps at Sawgrass...?

In the movie, Slim goes to California to start a new life...

Do we have evidence (strong or otherwise) that Casey was planning to head west ... is that why she was in recent contact with Mark Hawkins, who was stationed in 29 Palms, California....  What do we know?

Juliette Lewis ("Ginny" in the movie) tells J-Lo ("Slim") that it is justifiable for her to find a way to kill her psycho abuser controlling husband.  This is shortly after he cancels all her credit cards and denies access to his bank accounts!

Do most monkeys think Casey might have been plotting to kill one or both of her parents?  Is there evidence of this?  Anyone have a plausible theory?

Notice, the best friend refers to J-Lo's daughter as her "offspring."

Slim's estranged dad feels sorry for her in her plight. He has never been involved in her life until she finds him and begs him for help.

He comes through and gives her a HUGE wad of cash (couple of hundred thousand?) which she uses to buy a house for her and her child to live in.

The MONEY question is one of the biggest mysteries IMO, when it comes to Casey's actions before and after Caylee's death.  What do we know?  WAS she working at something secretive?  Stealing from many more people than we know?  Why did she talk about buying/building a house if she had no money?  Brag about having saved up fifteen thousand dollars?  Anybody?

End of movie:

With her daughter safely stowed with Juliette Lewis ("Ginny"), Slim learns self-defense and some kind of cool martial art and carries out her plan to kill her psycho stalker abusive husband and make it look like self-defense.

Household weapons -- is this the term that Casey searched on her computer?  Do we know it was Casey who did the searches we've heard about?

In the movie, part of the trap laid by Slim for her evil hubby is that she goes through the house where the final confrontation ends up taking place, as advised by her self-defense instructor, and hides or removes all of the potential weapons lying around the home, before the bad guy arrives.

She also somehow leaves herself some kind of helpful items to grab as she runs away; things to use to trick him or attack him (like I said, I haven't actually seen this movie!)

She plans to kill him, but chickens out at the last minute.  However, she ends up pushing him into a balcony rail that collapses, causing him to fall two floors down to his death....  accidental, but after having planned it and not carried through with it first... odd.

Her mad face looks kinda like Casey's on August 14, do you think?
Some nice monkey could post a pic for comparison purposes...

Okay, I'm sure there are more, but I'm not sure any monkeys will want to play this "game" with me.  So that is more than enough for now.  I'll come back later to check to see if anyone found pics or evidence to match up with the coinkydinks I saw in the movie trailers for this film.

I'll try looking for some, too, but not right now -- this little monkey is SOOOO tired!

Here are a couple of links (to videos of the movie trailers, and to reviews of the movie -- it really tanked), and a final image that I thought was haunting.

The little girl is inside the car, and the mom had just made the decision to leave her with JL.  The mom has already started to consider ending their peril and fear by killing the daddy.  The car is about to drive away with her child in it, and she doesn't know if she will ever see her again.....

Interesting thread.  I will be bak later.  This has got me thinking....

Links:

IMDB Movie site "Enough":  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278435/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278435/)

Bad Movies (Review/Plot):  http://www.cinemademerde.com/Enough.shtml (http://www.cinemademerde.com/Enough.shtml)

YouTube Trailer:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSd8zV5hJ3g&feature=PlayList&p=20C253C8A404179D&index=10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSd8zV5hJ3g&feature=PlayList&p=20C253C8A404179D&index=10)

IMDB Theatrical Trailer:  http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1134887193/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1134887193/)

Thanks, Monkeys! 

Very intriguing Des.  Some of the parallels are stunning.

yes it is. You know I could really picture Casey watching this film and fantasising that it was her. Beautiful Jlo as the main character Casey and we know she liked to play the victim so wouldn't this have jus been one huge fantasy for Casey.

Lots of parallels in this movie.

Des, you worked hard, now get some rest before you can come back and play with the monkeys.   :smt018

Wow Des.   Very interesting.   I'm going to have to find Enough and watch it this weekend.
Thanks for starting this thread.

 ::MonkeyEek:: Good Job Des, now I will have to watch the movie.

This is very interesting and I agree with you that there is something very eerily familiar about this movie.  Would like to know if Casey ever rented it.

Des -- You put a lot of hard work into this -- thank you.  Great job

Wow, Des.  Good job!  This sounds like something Casey could have watched.  IIRC in Casey's interview with the police, didn't she say to them (police) in trying to explain why she had not reported Caylee missing, that she had seen movies and knew things can go wrong...get hurt?  Something like that?

This is the picture that reminds me of the yellow dress/pigtails still from "Enough."

smiling after giving birth to a baby girl

Pink swimsuit on a beach trip with Mommy

Okay, here is another one.  Our heroine, a lovely young woman, gets the runaround from the police.  They are no help to her at all.  She feels powerless.  She is a victim of their incompetence and/or lack of concern.

What is she wearing?  A blue "hoodie" shirt.

Two cute little girls in pink sunglasses with their loving, protective mommies, in happier times...

The heroine's best friend and confidante.
Casey:  Annie Downing?
JLo ("Slim"):  Juliette Lewis, aka "Ginny."

Cute child playing on full-size bed:

Favorite pink cloth cuddle-baby goes everywhere and provides comfort...

Mom is in the driver's seat of her car, looking back at her little girl in the back seat, who is in a child safety seat and making a serious face...

Rage enough to kill... 

wow this is uncanny. youve done so much hard work, its a cool cool thread des... im going to have to watch the movie now!

OMG i have seen this movie,and yes to me it smells like Krazy Casey,and im sure she has seen this movie,its just KC written all over it!!!great job you have done on this posting!!!

Thanks, ncbelle.   I couldn't believe all the parallels I saw just from watching two trailers.  I have yet to actually see the movie itself...!

The "Juliette Lewis" friend and confidante thing and the "police can't help you" thing -- those two to me are the biggest links.

The house that Casey said she was going to live in.  Just her, Amy, and Caylee -- "Just us girls."  What were her plans for her parents??

J-Lo has a 'dream house' in the movie...

In the movie, Gracie is an endangered child.

Caylee looks much like her, in the last images we have before she died...