Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Thought I would start with a quote stack!

Thanks 2NJ, I wasn't even looking at the page  ::MonkeyHaHa::

It's okay, Wreck.  We stand with the girl....Natalee.  May today bring us closer to the truth which exists. 

Boy, That ended fast....
KTF missed it....I tried to post this on last thread page 49....by the time my  one coldfinger typed in my post...the thread was locked.....
Not to worry though....I copied it so I can post it here... ::MonkeyCool::
Just waiting for KTF to return.....But, Wreck...now that you mentioned to look who's back...It reminds me of a story when some asks...turn around please, and so you do, and then they say.....
Nice to see your back!!!
Now that's funny...... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Amen!      (sorry!  I was a bad monkey  ::MonkeyNoNo::)

Yes, that's what my last micro managing boss said, too.     ::MonkeyTongue::          ::MonkeyHaHa::

Goodnight all...
I stand with the Girl!
May today be the day that brings Justice for Natalee!

ha ha  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite Billb

Goodnight billb!  It was great to see you!   ::MonkeyDance::

I'm done too! Goodnight all!  ::MonkeyCool::

 :smt049    what you do and glad you are here.

Goodnight wreck!   ::MonkeyCool::

Goodnight Wreck!

Hope the rest of you can keep the few visitors occupied.  See you later. 

Goodnight 2nj!

slowpoke (sp?)     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Goodnight 2NJ!   ::MonkeyCool::

2/18/2009 Awe Mainta Page 4

http://awemainta.com/home/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%204/02182009AweMaintaPg4_1.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

child of comisario trudy hassell owing to bay entrega complaint of maltrato contra of police

child of comisario trudy hassell owing to hay’e in problem cu police, hour cu past owing to bay envolve his self in one action during parada of carnaval at beach. in the action here, even the child of the comisario owing to strike police one fist, for cual police owing to detene y owing to hib’e keep of police at oranjestad. as we owing to being informa, in first instant, polisnan not was know cu is deal of child of comisario trudy hassell, till hour cu they owing to pidi’e his name. after of owing to work one procesverbal y place pay one boet, past owing to bay cas tranquil. but now is resulta, cu apparently his mother, esta comisario trudy hassell not owing to like the mature here, y is achieve cu polisnan cu owing to detene y owing to work cune, owing to maltrata his child, for cual past owing to conseha the child for bay entrega one complaint at landsrecherche. the acusacion is, cu police owing to maltrat’e formalmente. do not conoci if the child here owing to bay doctor for achieve one declaracion medico, for confirma cu debidamente past owing to being maltrata.

I tried.I got home and saw that the odds were STACKED AGAINST ME! ::MonkeyDance::

Nite Wreck and 2NJ!  ::MonkeyCool::

  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hotping.You OK?That stackin juice hasn't weared off yet?

On a serious note.TM.You should bring over that article about Oduber,his brother,the chinese.Wish it was in english!

Everything is Cool here  KTF.....Just Chillin after all that Stackin..... ::MonkeyTongue::

Will do, hopefully we'll get a better translation!   ::MonkeyCool::

Yep.Just searchin different companies top see if we can make more connections that can stick!

2/16/2009 Diario

http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/frontpage/index.html

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http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/noticia/news4.html

Papiamentu translation:

crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca merca is preocupa cu relacion nel oduber y china interesnan personal of family is hungando one rol come across!

oranjestad (aan): daily paper owing to achieve informacion much delicado tocante one crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca. ultimo time have one view particular y preocupante of gobierno of merca for cu the relacion among nel oduber y gobierno of aruba cu some country comunista. on nivelnan high this is worde discuti y relata. kingdom dutch also will owing to cai inside y already end owing to send various message for first minister nelson oduber. also have all indicacion cu on level internacional is monitoria movecionan of aruba his gobierno y nel oduber provided that particular. have even intencionan cu if gobierno of nel follow cu the lazonan here the can have consecuencia pisa for aruba cu will can emboca in restrincionan for cu we island y his economia. the locual cu is haci the situation more dificil still is aruba his localidad geografico in door of sur-america caminda also have movecionan socialista/communista of rusia y china therefore.e. at venezuela y others paisnan in region. now have entendi cu the lazonan of nel oduber his gobierno y gobierno of republica comunista of china is birando more acute. this owing to place cu ultimamante reaccion americano also owing to become more acute y preocupante. this is haci cu the netherlands at one instant or another will can take cierto decisionan unilateralmente first cu estados unidos of america will have to revoca some lasonan cu aruba cu all consecuensia for aruba. the future desaroyonan cu gobierno of nel y republica comunista of china will worde scrutina on level extra-ordinario. recientemente camara of comercio of aruba owing to deny also of participa in one declaration of policy in cual productonan of china will owing to worde present at aruba for clientenan in region come see. sinembargo aruba will owing to core cu all the gastonan while cu eventual bentanan will not owing to core via aruba. this owing to place cu not was have interest local for participa in the proyecto here cu is worde promovi for brother of nel oduber, esta ruben oduber cu is representatnte of the compania “ciicbiz” of china cu cual gobierno of aruba owing to company one contract cu is costa we country centenares of thousand of dollar. camara of comercio owing to let know of not will participa at the asunto here. the origen of the relacion cu china owing to inicia on insistencia of brother of nel oduber, ruben oduber that have much interest in the relacion here. now the relacion cu china is bao of one microscope already cu they will wanted cumpra valero also y have till even indicacion cu nel oduber owing to company cu petrochina for cumpra the refineria. so china will achieve one posicion strategico at aruba. gobierno of merca is extremely preocupa cu the desaroyo here cu have one aspecto of crisis diplomatico combina cu one aspecto of corrupcion ashamed for aruba y kingdom dutch. hour cu the lineanan here is core directamente for cabez of the gobierno of one country the integridad y confiabilidad of aruba is worde soil y atacha door of actonan of gobernantenan. the reciente publicacionnan of corrupcion raporta door of oficialnan of the netherlands on the imagen of gabinete oduber is achieve now more right for preocupacion on level internacional. the throw of platform also cu companianan foreigner y insistencia sospechoso for stay cla for realisa “un success fee” all is discribi the potret of one gobierno corupto cu do not interesa in dañonan cu the is cause tanto on level diplomatico because; on level of imagen for aruba. perdida of one institute as klm recientemente is completa the imagen of one country in one decadencia overall follow behind another for escandalonan on level diplomatico for motibo of vinculonan cu is confirma corupcion y interesnan aheno. come across

Thanx TM!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3167.340

Buckeye posted:

Good Night TM and KTF and 3 Guests!  ::MonkeyCool::

Goodnight Hotping!  I'm not far behind you!   ::MonkeyCool::

Goodnight Hotping,as wellas TM.Who needs college with all the sh_t i'm learning about just researching companies.Who needs a financial advisor.Research oil companies at Scared Monkey's and become a Multi-millionaire!!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

                              JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
                                  GOODNIGHT AND GOD BLESS
                                             KEEPTHEFAITH

Below is the timeline, still a work in progress of course.  I wanted to go ahead and get it posted even though its late tonight, as I'll be in and out of meetings all day tomorrow.

Please, everyone, feel free to add to or correct this as needed. 



General Timeline for Schaefer, Silvetti, the Persistence search and affiliated companies/organizations


12/18/2006
Superior Offshore International has announced the acquisition of Subtech Diving and Marine Pty Ltd in Durban, South Africa.  Subtech’s role in the group is to support the international contracting entities within the group structure in a planned expansion programme by Superior to enter other international markets.

02/14/2007
John D. Silvetti, Conrad Daigle, and Marianne Silvetti-Voorhies register Aim For A Cure, Inc.; a Louisiana, non-profit corporation

04/03/2007
Acergy wins contract to install pipeline for Petrobras a contract worth USD 400 million in Brazil to install the Mexilhao gas export trunkline

04/20/2007
Initial Public Offering of Superior Offshore Int’l; raised $152 million

05/2007
Schaeffer contacts Dave Holloway
Schaefer purchases $3.5m home

07/05/2007
Schaefer rings opening bell @ NASDAQ stock market


08/14/2007
After defendants and other Company insiders liquidated over $49 million of their personally held shares -- Superior Offshore begins revealing the truth about the Company problems existing at the IPO on 04/20/2007

09/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa is appointed as a major subcontractor to the Dredging International/Group 5 Consortium which has been awarded the DHEW (Durban Harbor Entrance Widening & Deepening contract) in Durban, South Africa.

11/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa has purchased a Modular Jack-Up Barge which is expected to significantly enhance the company’s capacity in terms of inshore civil marine operations.

11/14/2007
Superior Offshore shares decline again after defendants belatedly revealed that the Company was operating even below its recently revised forecasts, and that its core business was operating even worse than previously disclosed.

11/27/2007
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman describes the mobilization: "We will leave the dock at Midnight on 27-November, 2007 to perform a "wet-test" on all the gear. This test will take approximately 2 days, where we will calibrate and test all the equipment under real survey conditions."

11/30/2007
Persistence departs for Aruba

12/2007
Persistence search team meets with ALE Detective & his brother with a "vision", giving latitude of cage

12/15/2007
Persistence arrived at Aruba – “1615 hrs: ARRIVED at Aruba pilot station. Port Authorities board and the Persistence is cleared for docking.”

12/18/2007
“UPDATE: 1510 hrs: The Persistence has begun the search.”

12/20/2007
“Thurs. 20-Dec -0430 hrs:  The Persistence has completed the first day of the side scan sonar search.”

12/20/2007
CapsLockWizard registers at SM, 09:38:24 PM

12/22/2007
Persistence team tests sensing equipment using local construction materials for a wire trap to confirm detection and signatures. 

12/22/2007
This is the date Caps claims in a 1/30/08 posting on SM that he “started to look at the case of Natalee.”

12/25/2007
Trap found.  Per oceanexploration (Kyle Kingman):  “The trap in Video 1-3 was found from the first conducted ROV dive.  I found the target at 1:46 am on Christmas morning.  It was my #1 ranked priority target and therefore the first of the ROV dive series.”

12/29/2007
ROV visual inspection of the trap

12/30/2007
ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap.  Tim Trahan's "No, nothing," dive.  Dateline & Tim Miller off the ship.

01/07/2008
ALE divers retrieve contents of the cage.
Persistence loses internet connection for 2 days.

01/09/2008
Superior Offshore announced that it was suspending its prior substantially downward revised guidance. (Last date of stock purchases included in class action suits)

01/10/2008
Kyle has a few days off of the boat; stays at the HI from 1/10 to 1/14.

01/11/2008 -01/12/2008
Kyle claims he saw a Dutch/Aruban vessel (Panter) on site over the cage location.

01/17/2008
CapsLockWizard’s first posting to SM Forum, 10:18:50 PM

01/17/2008
Persistence gets call to help the “Michelle” in distress.

01/21/2008
Caps posts:  “Klaasend:  Any news from BT?  Need her to communicate”

01/22/2008
HOUSTON, Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Superior Offshore
International, Inc. (Nasdaq: DEEP) today announced that it has completed the
sale and charter-back of the Superior Achiever with Hornbeck Offshore Services
LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Hornbeck Offshore Services, Inc. (NYSE: HOS)

02/2008
The previous owners of Subtech Diving and Marine have negotiated the buy back of Superior Offshore South Africa from Superior Offshore International Inc.

02/07/2008
Caps posts on SM open forum regarding what the new witness claims to have seen

02/12/2008
Council of Ministers of Aruba makes a decision leading Edison Briesen, Minister of Tourism & Transportation to appoint MTBS  (Maritime & Transport Business Solutions) as Project Manager to lead and direct the redevelopment of the Aruban harbor areas.

02/15/2008
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman posts a request for donations through Texas Equusearch.

02/22/2008
E. Briesen sends a letter to Juan Manuel Trujillo in Madrid, Spain advising him of the appointment of MTBS as Project Manager of the redevelopment of Aruban harbor areas.

02/22/08
The Dateline episode on the Persistence search is broadcast.

02/26/2008
Dana Pretzer hosts Art Wood on his radio show. Concerning the Persistence search, Art says, “They've identified over 100 possible targets that could be Natalee on the ocean floor. They're trying to narrow that list to 30 or 40 more likely targets, they can dive on them however John has informed us that they have run out of money. Actually, if they can't come up with some donations within the next week to 10 days, they're going to be bringing the boat home.”

02/27/2008
Two members of the Persistence crew perform side scan sonar survey of the Montserrat pond.

02/27/2008
Robin posts the cage pictures received from the FBI.

02/28/2008
Kyle, posting at SM, makes two references to having been away from the search.  “I'm getting caught up with the data collected while I've been off the boat.”  “I've personally been handling the matter* while I was on the east coast last week.“
[*Note: the matter = selling television rights to the search]

02/29/08
The first class action lawsuit against Superior Offshore Int’l is announced on behalf of shareholders who purchased stock between 4/20/07 and 1/09/08.


03/01/2008
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman announces the side scan sonar search is complete.

03/02/2008
Kyle Kingman and the search team of the Persistence fly out of Aruba.

03/03/2008
Persistence and crew leave Aruba, sailing to the home port in Louisiana

03/20/08
Private Eye reveals to Kyle his knowledge of the blue denim and skull in an open post on the SM Forum.

04/03/2008
When asked how much money would be needed to complete the search, John D. Silvetti posts at BFN under the screenname dsurveyor1 “It is very difficult to say, since Louis has not selected a ROV vessel and we do not know how much of a humanitarian discount we can count on by the vessel and ROV owners, but my guess is that we will be looking at around 1 million dollars.”

04/03/2008
John D. Silvetti posts at BFN under the screenname dsurveyor1, “We received support from the Police, the Coast Guard, the Port Authority and vitually anyone we needed help from.”


06/2008
Petrobras talks/meetings were held in ARUBA

06/29/2008
Kyle Kingman flies to John Silvetti’s house

12/23/2008
John D. Silvetti, Conrad Daigle, and Marianne Silvetti-Voorhies register OSV Determination, L.L.C.; a Louisiana limited liability company.

Goodnight and God bless you too KTF! 

Keep on diggin', and never give up hope!  The Truth will be uncovered, and hopefully Justice will follow!

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you for posting the timeline Lifesong!   ::MonkeyCool::

It's so hard to find a stopping place when you know there's more...

   ::MonkeyWink::

I'm glad it's up too!

Well you've done a very good job so far!  I really appreciate your putting it together.  You can always add more to it!

 ::MonkeyCool::

Goodnight everyone!   ::MonkeyCool::

Texasmom? I love the way you sign off every night.

Yes, it's all about Natalee............

 

Paul's jeep ? how many red jeeps are there in Aruba ?

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/johan555/REDsuzukikopie.jpg)

There are actually many many jeeps in Aruba, they're very popular also as rentals.

Just curious, Did KLAAS call RED?

I am sure you have read the same thing as we have.  Why don't you tell us about the "phone call" to Red? 

a question ! was there also another Mcdonalds in Aruba ?

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/johan555/mcdon3-jun-2005kopie.jpg)

I hope she didn't bother him.

The only reason for anybody to feel disgusted at what has been posted here is if they have been misinformed and not told it was every word straight from Kyle Kingman.

There has been no original material provided by any monkeys in this regard.

It all came from Kyle.

Johan,  I believe we were told at one time that there was now a "new" McDonalds.  Don't know if that would be in place of or in addition to the older one.

just curious ldstlala, which of you is posting lately?

None,
When we were discussing this earlier, were you online when isa apparently told Jug Twitty that monkeys claimed the family had the remains of Natalee recovered from the trap and were concealing that fact?

Not one person on here ever made such a contention or even suggested it but that's the level of comprehension that is being used here.  I was mortified to think that anybody would do such a reckless and foolish thing.  People who can't be bothered to actually read what is posted and what is NOT shouldn't be purveyors of information.

So that's why I say if anybody is "disgusted" because of something this person told them, it's probably because they have again been given totally inaccurate information.

But I guess one excuse is as good as another, right?


.

just me none, always just me...but speaking of posts, I saw some old ones of yours last night. Apparently you had a beef or two with some of your "current" friends. I was quite shocked!!

One thing I CAN say, I don't talk bad about people behind their backs!! I don't post people's personal e-mails, thank goodness for you! so I will just leave it at that.

A few from Jen too. But I won't be a hypocrite and say I don't believe in posting private info and then post them of course.

Hypocrites do "disgust" me.

I hope to God, Dave isn't spending $5million based on Cap's and Silvetti's info.

Aruba
Father Natalee will search again
17 Feb, 2009, 15:22 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Dave Holloway, father of the trace since 2005 disappeared Natalee Holloway, will soon be returning to find his daughter. The American, a team specializing in missing persons that have done millions of dollars to invest in new searches, including the dam of Monserat and on the seabed.

According to the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad Holloway gets no support from the Public Prosecutor (OM). Starting principal officer Hans Mos would Dave Holloway 'personal investigation into the disappearance of Natalee at work. "This looks like a cover-up," says Dave Holloway. Mos is the father of a witness, who says in the night of Natalees disappearance suspect Joran and his father, Paul van der Sloot have seen, not serious. The principal officer refuses a good doorstane lie detector test "to be included in the dossier. Mos would see no point in searching a pond where Joran the witness must have been conscious night.

Moss denies the allegations. "I work at all against anybody," he says. Mos does indicate the limited resources of the police only want to use as concrete evidence. Research has not shown that her body in the dam area. The dam is twice examined in the investigation of Holloway and the missing case Vincenzo Tromp, said the OM.

Amigoe

We already saw pics of the pond drained. I (reluctantly) agree with Mos -- she ain't there. (at least not anymore)

ldstlala- I am not surprised by anything you've been told or what you feel are emails or posts of mine. I know the company you keep, it's quite easy to alter or manufacture things.

Yesterday I posted that I had been told you coorespond with Jug, you chose to then attack me - I think that's a leading indicator of how you are spending your time. I don't play these games, I don't think I am perfect but you also haven't seen me airing differences on Natalee's thread non-stop as you messengers have. Nor do I steal posted Natalee information from SM and post it at other sites - do you? If you and your friends are so darn good at sleuthing then can't you locate and generate your own videos and news articles?

Whether you do the posting or they do the coaching, it's child's play and has no purpose on this thread or any other here. That's why I closed the site I had, one for fun and frolic that lala's and yap were determined to turn into a battleground by banning members they had disagreement with, but without my consent?

Don't turn this thread for Natalee into another battleground. You and your grumble/GM friends have been trying to for weeks now. And you support the family? I'm not sure if that's the support that is needed.

Don't post to me again and I certainly won't be posting to you.

all I can say none is though I won't post other's private posts and e-mails, you sure are ticking off a lot of people with the bashing you do. I think some may be tired of the soapbox. Glass houses!!
You are correct, I don't know if what I saw was really you and jen talking, only you and the people you sent those messages to would. I must say I was quite surprised by the content, really hope it wasn't your words because they were awfully cruel.

Maybe there are new (anonymous) witnesses or evidence, tips etc > you never know

thanks Anna, I agree. Outright lies seem to have no shame with Lisa. I've never seen anyone here post that either, not ever.

I don't understand why family member's conversations can't be held close or held privately, even if some think they are justified in using them to beat up other posters, it's still terribly wrong.

I haven't been actively posting information or even theories on this thread for over two years. I keep up with what's posted here, I care very much, but with work demands I had nothing to contribute. But I dared to stand up to Yap and Lala's and to demand they not drag me and others into their petty fights.

Lisa is more than happy to advance their cause.  ::MonkeyRoll::

okay Lisa, enough. I am sure you can locate my email from Lala's and Yap for your tirade to continue. I am ticking people off?????? Unreal. Email me, bash me there for it's quite apparent you can't stop yourself.

Private emails are not allowed to be posted here.

It's about Natalee and not who said what to whom about other posters, etc.

Self-loathing can be a terrible thing.

,

I don't CALL anyone.  I did IM Red and it sounds like he did hear from from someone in the family, I would imagine it was Beth but don't know for sure.  Sounds like they (the family member) was complaining about the emails and phone calls THEY are getting over this trap issue.

From the IM Red left me this morning it appears he suggested to them (the family member) that it was caused by someone (Kyle I'm assuming) starting it in the first place by trying to act like a big shot.

Red has gone to work now and I won't hear back from him until maybe later tonight.  I'll see if I can get him to post something about the issue himself.

That's a very sobering thought, Wreck.

Several times Caps posted that all Dave had to do was come down and collect the remains.  But they were supposedly located in a different place each time!


I do hope this is not the basis for any new search.  And the pond was bone dry for several weeks.  Nothing.  So what could they hope to find NOW that wasn't found then?  That doesn't even make sense.

.

And I dared to ask that you stop slandering the members of the Persistence, most of which are once again ready to step up to the plate along with Tim Miller to help Natalee's family bring her home, for that I am the #1 enemy. I dragged no one into any fight, I stood up for what I thought was right.

Private e-mails are not allowed here? Isn't that what started all of this? Thought NOTHING was private anymore!! Tell that one to the frog.

You are still doing it.  You just tried to drag Red into it.

Previously you tried to drag Tim Miller into it as well as Jug Twittym  They have no way of knowing what has been discussed here and it's not fair to do that to them based on your say about things you don't even bother to read.

You thought wrong.  It was posts made on other forums.

You would be addressing the wrong parties, Lisa.

It is Kyle Kingman who did the slandering, if any was done.  It has to be false information to be slander.  Are you again saying that Kyle lied about all of that for months?

No one here has claimed any personal knowledge of what happened on the last search.  Only what Kyle said has been repeated.

Thanks Klaas for posting that.

The 24-year-old Marlies van der Kouwe was  fighting for her life.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.new#new

Also just out of curiosity, what is your facination with Joran's poker habits?  The same poker information you are posting over at GM was posted here at SM in December 2007.  Old news if you ask me, but what do I know?  I don't even call members of the family so I can't possibly know anything.

VERY INTERESTING..

Thanx Klaas.Appreciate the feedabck.Also want to apologize for the STACKIN party last night.Nobody else was involved.I swear!BillB was no where to be found! ::MonkeyHaHa:: I see we had a few hidey-holers here this AM.

2nj.when you get a chance.Can you bring over the questions that have been posed to ldstlou from Janet.I may start a countdown on when the questions were asked,as well as how long it takes Ldstlou to answer Janet's questions! ::MonkeyDance::

Copy,paste,copy,paste,copy,paste
Hi-Ho,Hi-Ho off to the hidey-hole we go
Hi-Ho,Hi-Ho off to the hidey-hole we go!

Who's got the grunt work today???? ::MonkeyCool::

Faith & Begorrah, monkeys!

I DO still try to read everything ... mostly skim ... so many issues, so little time.

Just checked out the Murder & Crime thread -  101,591 views! Passed 100,000! - thanks to texasmom who keeps it current! I am so grateful for that.

I love this: if you click "Preview" before you post, you *might* get the message, "Fetching Preview ..." utterly charming.

Nice to see so many new (to me) faces, along with the perennial favorites.

I am so sorry that I didn't post my Valentine for Monkeys - I forgot about it until I just went to fetch my St. Patty's avatar. Here it is, better late than never --

 

klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.  
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
 
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator

Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

ldstlou- I wonder daily how Red, or Klaas, or even Jug ever get any of their work done due to complaints and copious emails from posters like you !

Stop your personal attacks and answer the questions others have asked of you. I didn't ask any questions of you - or were you smiling and laughing too much to notice?

or better yet.......go get some work done for your family? I intend to.........later




Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 17, 2009, 11:25:29 AM
Lou ... please give your perspective on Kyle Kingman's own words ... would that imply John Silvetti was a participant to the Aruban coverup agenda and ... Natalee Holloway's remains could have been in the trap/cage.

Lou ... I am a believer in Kyle Kingman's own words and ... those words make me so angry ... so frustrated ... so sad.  If Natalee's remains were in the trap/cage ... the opportunity to bring her home to her family to rest on US soil may have been lost forever ... compliments of not only the Arubans but also ... Americans.

Janet

+++++++

THE PERSISTENCE DECEPTION

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

John Silvetti

Kyle:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship.

Kyle:  I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

Kyle:   John didn't want Tim Miller on board the Persistence because he said Tim wasn't necessary any more and was a liability.

Kyle:   He (Tim Miller) stepped off on or about the 1st of Jan to follow up on the false lead in Costa Rica IIRC.

Kyle:   The Persistence had no divers on the 7th. Tim Trahan was our diver on the 30th-Dec, but he was out of the country at the time. The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.
 
Kyle:  They were immediately whisked away by the Aruban police and not seen of again by us on the 7th.

Kyle:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. That evening I talked to John asking when we plan on recovering the trap. Previously this was part of the talks and plan, but this time he doesn't seem concerned about ever looking into the trap further. After John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand, John pretty much committed himself to the belief the trap wasn't what we were after. This shocked me because it was exactly what we were looking for- a fish trap lost at sea with human remains.

Kyle: Remember after the Jan-7th dive which sampled the trap Richardson told John emphatically to "keep searching she's still out there in the deep ocean".

Kyle: John Silvetti told me today that he may be returning to Aruba very soon for a few days. (05/08/08)

Kyle: He's [John Silvetti] seriously making plans to open an Aruba office so he can conduct business easier in S. America and that would allow him to do that. (06/10/08)


KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Fabric - Tarp - Vertibre - Skull

Kyle:  I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

Kyle: We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.

Kyle: The portion of the discolored blue fabric was presumably on the bottom of the fabric. In my opinion this discoloration is not another type of fabric, but rather biological staining or discoloration from biological growth caused from a high organic carbon content and decay. Basically, during decay a biological mat will form around the organics from remains. This is what I believe it is on the bottom of the fabric.

Kyle: It was confirmed by the FBI that they received a fabric sample send by Richardson and that it wasn't a match to Natalee's blouse. I think the video can prove or disprove whatever the FBI was sent was the same object or not. I strongly believe it's blue denim.

Kyle: Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand. I believe her left arm was outstretched with her legs slightly bent. I did not edit the legs. I believe the tarp was placed over her and tucked around her, or perhaps tied down. I believe there are several rocks laying on the sand which were placed on the tarp, or inside the tarp over her body which explains their unusual location. Either way, the proportions appear promising.

Kyle: In my opinion that last pic from Jan 7th should be absolutely intriguing and flip your mind from what you thought you knew. In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric.

Kyle: Notice the blue fabric swayed in the current.

Kyle: The blue tarp piece was found approx 6-10 ft away from the trap opening.

Kyle:  The blue tarp and blue fabric was confirmed by Richardson and Mos. Remember, they each only confirmed one piece. One confirmed blue fabric, the other confirmed tarp. From the video you see both.

Kyle: The most likely to remain at or near it's original location was the skull, which is why I was so convinced the object pictured was a skull.

Kyle:   … John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand

Kyle:  I'm sorry if this is disturbing. I took the picture of Natalee standing on the beach and cropped, rotated, and scaled the image to correlate with the trap body form.  Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand.

Kyle: The bag that is above the denim bag looks to me as though it contains pieces of  vertebrae.

Kyle: The fabric(s?) are not visible on either the Dec 29th or 30th dives. There is about an inch of sand over the fabrics. The fabrics are completely covered. The diver sampled the sand and found the fabric underneath the sand. He then bagged the blue fabric. If the other bag contains fabric, it was also in the sand. There was also something possibly recovered from far inside the trap. In the video the diver is inside the trap with just below his knees showing. I don't know what was sampled far inside the trap if anything.

Kyle:  The contents of the trap were being actively investigated. The forensic results of a fabric sample showed the fabric sample was not a match to Natalee's blouse and that no DNA match to Natalee was found within that fabric sample. Human remains were found, but the FBI was not and would not comment on the case. The FBI did not comment on the remains, but rather the fabric sample.

Kyle:  In my opinion, the blue fabric is quite possibly Natalee's skirt. The divers found the denim where I suggested a week earlier (Dec 29th) to Tim Miller that there was likely Natalee's denim skirt under the sand.  Also in my opinion, the deni-like fabric is a match in terms of color, quantity, and structure to Natalee's skirt. It's not a lot of denim folded in the bag, but then again her skirt was rather small.

Kyle: I think it is highly unlikely and completely inconsistent with numerous testimonies and other evidence that the pond (or anything but the ocean) contains Natalee's remains.

Kyle:  … Human remains were found, but the FBI was not and would not comment on the case. The FBI did not comment on the remains, but rather the fabric sample.

Kyle: Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand. I believe her left arm was outstretched with her legs slightly bent. I did not edit the legs. I believe the tarp was placed over her and tucked around her, or perhaps tied down. I believe there are several rocks laying on the sand which were placed on the tarp, or inside the tarp over her body which explains their unusual location. Either way, the proportions appear promising.

Kyle: The blue tarp and blue fabric was confirmed by Richardson and Mos. Remember, they each only confirmed one piece. One confirmed blue fabric, the other confirmed tarp. From the video you see both.

Kyle: In my opinion that last pic from Jan 7th should be absolutely intriguing and flip your mind from what you thought you knew.  In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric.

ldstlala and that whole bunch can only accept the version of things that
involves CapsLockWizzard and the pond.  They just cannot comprehend
the Persistence involvement in the Great Aruban Coverup.

They do not want want justice for Natalee....they just want to be right!

This is a post which ldstlou made on January 29, 2009, it's #45. I felt it should be brought forward and I've excerpted a portion below:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=346;sa=showPosts;start=40

".....I know nothing about the chat and grumble...not even sure of what it is called...nor what caused the rift between Monkeys...I just walked back into the forum when it was happening and got lumped in with it. I don't back stab, I don't "hidey hole"...and everything I have disagreed with I have been honest and open about, then I get bashed for being honest and open with it.

Thats all I have to say. It's just...well...seeing e-mails and gossip being passed along behind the scenes and then brought here to the forum...I am sorry and I know most of you don't agree with me, but it just makes me mistrust the messenger and the message even more. I have explained my reasons why, you don't have to agree...but please, don't draw me into the shit that is going on behind the scenes. I am open and honest about who I speak to and in regards to what."

Keepthefaith,

I see you managed to bring over the posts you requested.  I was off researching. 
 ::MonkeyCool::

No problem 2nj.Thanx for all you do,as well as taking part in the Stackin party! ::MonkeyTongue::

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Amen Magnolia!

Wingnut.Bustin jokes so early in the morning.. ::MonkeyHaHa::

BINGO!  And are so invested in their own theories and games that there is no room for anything else.

It's afternoon for some of us, though.  Humor is healing, they say.

This is true.I better start on mys first cup of coffee!

who is that  whole bunch  ?

Hi Msmarple - great to see you!

The forum is "jumping" with the Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings cases. 

One would think,with being a member of a 170 forums,you'd know best?No?

Major document dump in Caylee Anthony case.

Can you imagine if we had access to this kind of information with Natalee?  Instead we got secrecy, lies, initials and denials.

Lifesong...I wanted to Thank You for putting this Timeline together...Great Work!  ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyCool::

Agreed Anna.Aruba knows what happened..

Lifesong,

I'm waiting for you to declare your Timeline complete before I copy it.

Great job you are doing, I might add.

i am not sure but this one looks like the "gottenbos" speed boat
are there other pics available ?


(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/johan555/G-Bboat.jpg?t=1234981184)

NOPE - the boat was single engine

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/koenboat.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/SMKoensFamilyResidenceandBoat.jpg)

Klaas is pictionary champion of the world! ::MonkeyWink::

oh thanks klaas i didn't know that

Theresa Croes Fernandes Pedra is sworn in as lawyer.
working for her own law firm Croes & Flanegin Law and Consultancy Firm.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/printer_52910.php

_________________________

Appeal of Edgar Maduro is postponed again.

(Hendrik Croes allegedly dit a hit-and-run on Maduro, but Maduro got sentenced for giving false statements)

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/printer_52909.php

I have the pic in hand and I'm too late.  She's the all around champ.

I'm sure you'll have plenty of opportunities to claim the trophy! ::MonkeyTongue::

Would that partner of hers be Amelin Flanegin, by any chance?

Both women were critical of Karin Janssen's handling of this case - to the point for Amelin that she resigned from working on it.

ArkeFly increases flights from Aruba to Amsterdam with a flight on Sunday starting July 1st.

this is in response to KLM stopping his operations to Aruba by March 29th

http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/innederland/car200902189_arkefly.html

yes, this is former public prosecutor Amalin Flanegin.

Sorry but i felt like i have to respond to this BS.
KTF, I only see ldstlou defending herself time after time.
You`re the one who seem to enjoy to attack posters for quite a while now.

Can`t you just agree to disagree or what?
I don`t like what you write at all but . . do i attack you all the time?
So i ask you to STOP the sarcastic attacks on other posters!

I have to agree with you here Bastibro. KTF has made it a function of his to champion the causes of others who have the original thoughts/research/action (even if it is "stacking"-cripes). Even if it is to attack another who has been a member here for a very long time -so-be-it..he's on board.

I believe you are correct Jen!   ::MonkeyCool::

2/18/2009 Awe Mainta Front Page

http://awemainta.com/home/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%204/02182009AweMaintaFP_aa.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

mr. teresa croes fernandes pedra owing to swear because; advocate together cu the bulgaro, ivan ivano v pene v yesterday morning, had one ceremonia very yamativo in corte of husticia, where corte of husticia comun of aruba y antiyas owing to huramenta two advocate, of cual uno is we ex procurador general, mr. teresa croes fernandes pedra. after of owing to work because; procurador general, owing to achieve coin of his pensioen, mr. teresa croes fernandes pedra wanted follow explota his experiencia in ley y so will uni cu ex fiscal mr. amelien flanegien in one buffete of advocate.tambe yesterday morning owing to huramenta because; advocate, the young bulgaro, mr. ivan ivanov penev. the young here, owing to study at the netherlands y have titulo in strafrecht y internationalerecht.abogado mr. ivan ivanov penev is trahando end for because; one year at tundruk consulting nv – van esch & partners.den the buffeta here, mr. ivan ivanov penev, have the.o. because; colega advocate, mr. rick c. samuels y mr. arlene ellis-schipper.

Superior Offshore Amends Merger with Ocean Flow International     
  Superior Offshore International, Inc.      Monday, December 03, 2007 


Superior Offshore International has amended its agreement and plan of merger with Ocean Flow International, L.L.C. to extend the deadline for the closing of the acquisition to December 28, 2007.
Ocean Flow is a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm based in Houston.
 

http://www.rigzone.com/news/company.asp?comp_id=4337

For Lifesong,as well as other Monkey's.Theses articles pertaining to Superior offshore aree in chronological order Lifesong!Do we know about Ocean Flow international llc Jen??

If you had been reading here, you would know that those were not KTF's words; he was simply repeating what ANOTHER POSTER had posted earlier.

 ::MonkeyRoll::

Whether ldstlou has been here a long time or not is beside the point.  She only comes to post here NOW when she wants to stir the pot!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank You Tm.I should have clarified those were None's words when i brought the post over.I think Bastibro,as well as Bleachedblack should take that up with None,although i do agree with None!So i think the only one's attacking are BB,as well as Bastibro???No?

exactly, thanks Texasmom.

I MADE THE POST. I didn't make it to you bastibro or to Bleached. Tell it walkin........

Why are you so unfriendly to other members KTF?
Everyone should do his own research or not?

Idstlou said: “They were working with two FBI agents from Barbados. The footage was turned over to them.”http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.560

Idstlou said: ”The footage WAS turned over to the FBI immediately.”http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.500

BUT that is not what JUG said:

LEAK said: "This comment was made by Jug during a recent phone conversation:
All of the stuff that Kermit posted
FBI did not know about it..."

Sorry Nonesuche!Was just trying to get the dynamics surrounding Janet's question's brought over from the last thread!

bastibro are you still posting at BNH.
Just asking...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4460.520

KTF I did not see that being discussed. You felt that the timing was appropriate to repost a thought of another(as I had said above) which was negative about ldstlou. For what purpose? Can everyone say pot stirrer? ::MonkeyTongue::

With my own eyes I have seen Bastibro's posts at BNH and CnG.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4460.540

KeeptheFaith - please know you did nothing wrong. I'm glad you have kept posting despite ldstlou's and yap and lala's efforts to make  sure no one posts here.

I think we are all very very tired of the drama, I know I am. I dared to say no so now I'm the target. I will get to the bottom of it however, but not on this thread.

NATALEE deserves better. I'm not sure any of those leaping out of their hidey holes realize that. This thread is about Natalee, not about anyone else.

Such dynamics are what make the jobs of thoise you were so apparently concerned about
ie Klaas, Red, and other mods challenging. ::MonkeyWink::

bastibro attacked:
An outright LIE, that gives me the right to call you a LIAR Magnolia.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4460.600

yes kermit this one made me very sad, there isn't a finer person than Magnolia yet they feel anyone who dares to disagree with them is open game.

I agree Nonesuche!  Very well stated!   ::MonkeyCool::

Perhaps, then ldstlou can simply state what SHE thinks happened in the case rather than coming here and calling us fools, liars, and uncaring.

January 7, 2008 – Klye states: Present for a dive was Persistence crew, 3 Aruban divers. I know Richardson for a fact knew about the samples, Mos, I don't know if he ever saw anything for certain. I have no way to confirm or deny his involvement. Tim Miller and Tim Traham were not on the boat for this dive.

January 23, 2008 – MF posted “The Persistence might have found something.”

Interesting that this was leaked to the Internet websites.

January 31, 2008 – Beth views the taped confession with Peter DeVries in Holland.

February 3, 2008 – Daury denies he disposed of a corpse.

February 26, 2008 – The Public Prosecutor's Office released a statement that the cloth found in the crab trap did not match the sample of a blouse of Holloway, according to the FBI.

February 26, 2008 CAPSLOCKWIZARD posts: “The pond in question (MOKO) is right out near the Whitehouse Apartment.

February 28, 2008 – Kylel: “yesterday we were waiting on weather with the Persistence, so a few of the crew took a small boat and scanning sonar into a pond that hasn't been searched yet. Whether or not it was based on a credible lead, I can not say. However, we did search it to rule it out.

I followed it up with since I can't find proof of BNH I can't say I'm 100% sure on BNH only CnG.

You`re a real peace of work  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Perhaps that is wise. Because she doesn't speak for me. Nor do I speak for others. But this bashing has to stop. It is nothing but negative energy to no end.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I can't find any posts by him or Idstlou with anything that is informative about the case. Alls I have seen is attacks and name-calling by both of them towards  other posters.

Kermit maybe you know that Dave will do a new search in that pond and in the ocean .

you told us this on: December 05, 2008, 03:20:12 PM

I am aware that PI saw the photos.
I am aware that Beth & Dave have the photos.
I am aware that the fbi has the photos.

also az lady : Kermit, you said "he" saw the photos.  Is "he" Beth's brother--PI?
kermit :Yes he is.

Can you tell us what Dave's & Beth's brother  reaction/comment was ?

Chat and Grumble member eh?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

To whom it may concern(Johan555,Bastibro,As well as BB)

Please let the Mods do there job!Scared Monkey's is not a Hidey-hole.It is an OPEN forum for everyone to make their own determination of what to think,as well as believe!It is very telling that you ATTACKED me!My objective is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.

And "slanderers" which I think in this case should be libelers as it is the written word.

Neither of which applies if what is stated is the truth.  All I have seen is monkeys quoting Kyle.  He should be the one with whom they take issue.

And certainly no one here just out of the blue started attacking anybody.  Comments were made in response to attacks on the forum as a whole.

Ich weiß nicht, was der Bruder von Dave über irgendetwas sagt.
Aber der Bruder von Beth schlug seine Gedanken hier an SM an.
Sie können ja dafür suchen.

Keep on going froggy, that`s how i come to get to know you better.
So it`s true that you take posts out of their context . . hmmm interesting ::MonkeyWink::

I could not agree more.
I posted this a while back (January 30, 2009, 11:27:14 PM), when things became heated.
No response, to date:

Idstlou:

(1) What is your explanation for items located in a crab trap (congruent with ocean disposal) that were accidentally filmed by the ROV? Why would Aruba seem so quick to want to control its contents...diving from a "police" type boat, retrieving something, then returning back to the "police" type boat? Those, who retrieved the contents of the cage, never announced to others of their findings? That is, after all, one of the purposes of the dive? Furthermore, no one has heard the ALE, nor Mos talk about it..Seemed somewhat, at the very least, a significant find to me...Did the suspicious divers have zip-lock baggies in their pockets? The pictures of the cage definitely contained more than just a little piece of fabric...What happened to the other unexplained object(s)? Things that make ya go HMMMMMMMMMMMM...

Mine is also KTF and it has been since June 1st 2005. I know very well it is an open forum. I can state clearly that I have never instigated an attack of a poster but I have defended. I have said enough about this. You should stop jumping on the bandwagon of others.

I'd just like to state.  From what RED told me, it sounds as though the family (probably Beth) is tired of people emailing them and calling them about Kyle and this trap issue.  I beleive the bulk of these calls/emails are not coming from us or even Kermit but are coming from LDSTLOU, LALA's, YAPPERZ, HOTSHOT.  No wonder Dave Holloway changed his phone number.

The family would like to have justice for Natalee.  I really doubt the family cares what we discuss here in the forum. 

Please note that since LDSTLOU posted yesterday, any research or discussion came to an abrupt halt and now the discussion is about LDSTLOU, BB, BASTIBRO, NONESUCHE, KTF. 

So KUDOS to LDSTLOU for winning this round of topic changing.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

police union demands the resignation of police chief De Witte if he doesn't solve certain problems within 48 hours.

there are talks between the union members, the police management and prime-minister Oduber to come to a solution.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52913.php

So have I....even as I knitted goat wool socks!

THE BANDWAGON FOR JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY IS WHERE IT'S AT FOR ME!!IF THAT'S JUMPING. ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

If someone doesn't want attacked or bashed, perhaps they should not come into a forum calling names and attacking others.

That's just about guaranteed to get a negative response every time.

Vielen Dank,  kermit  ::MonkeyHaHa::
und was sagte Dave ?

This round should go to KeepTheFaith. Ldstlou was NOT here to start this.

Wrong, she had already been by when I logged on this morning and continued to take swipes, etc.  She started it.  People are going to comment as they log on for the day.  Everything doesn't happen in real time on a forum.

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 01:08:07 PM » 

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I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.
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 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Is Kermie German?

Thanks Klaas and BB . .

Kermit.Maybe you should repost that dossier again.Nerve struck!

Дейв имеет информацию.

Don't try to be so pious BB.  You never come here anymore except to attack and
be arguementive.

Kermit is a puppet.

Yes remember what I said about patterns.

Я рад, что Бет была реакция?

And certainly was piling on in the Musings Thread as lies were being posted about my child.  Said I was being judgmental when I was the one being attacked.

Yes Anna and i can assure you, i don`t like those kind of forums !

Thanks Caesu!

 ::MonkeyCool::

But what was it you said about goat's wool, bastibro? 

Magnoli you are wrong. If you search my last posts you will see. I will accept your apology.

Perhaps you missed Idstlou's posting attacking Jen at SM

Idstlou: Re: Natalee Case Discussion #800 2/11/09 -
« Reply #633 on: Today at 07:36:19 AM »
Jen, can you explain to me why if John Silvetti is so dirty and corrupt, that the family and Tim Miller still trusts him enough to do another search? Hmmmm...maybe it is time to put your "conspiracy theory" to rest , give these people the credit and respect they deserve, and back the family and their continued search for Natalee. jmho of course

Then again...could be you know more than the family does.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4515.620

Do you know what these problems are and what will happen if he doesn't address them in 48 hours?

BUMP

Well Magnolia, you must admit that you liked that goot`s wool sock comment.
I saw you made the hat with the earflippers ::MonkeyHaHa::
Did you finish my socks yet?

Just asking

Do you know anything about this company Kermit?

#43 on: Today at 10:31:10 AM   ldstlou
I am done. When in the heck did I say NOT to focus on something???!!! Let me reiterate!!!! kermit is saying in one breath the family has Natalee's body and is hiding that fact from the world. In another breath that the ALE has her body and Kyle was complicit in that cover up. I am saying BULLSHIT to both!!!! Why am I saying bullshit? Because I asked Jug and gave you his answer...and you know I asked him Klaas. Now the references that I am a liar...and the family is lying...and I simply STATING!!!! what Jug asked me to convey to you all this morning...to pray and focus on van der straaten!!! I never once said what to discuss or not to discuss...with all due respect
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4209.40

FOR THE RECORD I NEVER SAID ANY SUCH THING. IDSTLOU PURPOSELY LIED.
And probably lied to Jug with her updates.

I have to go back and look through documents for ya.

Key developments for undefined (undefined)
Superior Offshore International, Inc. signed a definitive agreement to acquire Ocean Flow International, LLC from Karl Winter for $15.21 million.
10/18/2007
Superior Offshore International, Inc. (NasdaqNM: DEEP) signed a definitive agreement to acquire Ocean Flow International, LLC from Karl Winter for $15.21 million in stock on October 18, 2007. As per the terms of the agreement Superior Offshore will issue 0.96 million shares at the time of closing and keep 0.32 million shares shall be deposited in escrow for a period of two years following the closing which will be delivered to Karl Winter on the second anniversary of the closing. Karl Winter, Ocean Flow's founder will join Superior as Senior Vice President of Engineering and Subsea Development and continue his responsibilities as President of Ocean Flow, which will become a wholly owned subsidiary of Superior Offshore. The closing, which is subject to customary conditions including obtaining certain consents, execution of escrow agreement, execution of employment agreement and requiring that no law shall have been enacted, entered, promulgated or enforced by any governmental authority that prohibits or materially or adversely restricts the consummation of the transactions contemplated hereby or the operation of the business following closing. Superior Offshore or Karl may terminate the agreement if the closing shall not have occurred on or before November 30, 2007. Superior Offshore entered into an amendment agreement with Ocean Flow on November 29, 2007, pursuant to which date after which the parties may terminate the agreement if the closing of the merger has not occurred was extended from November 30, 2007 to December 28, 2007. William S. Anderson of Bracewell & Giuliani LLP acted as a legal advisor to Superior Offshore International, Inc.

http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=38442772

VERY INTERESTING....

Why do you want to know what Dave said in private?

how deep you need to search for oil in the sea?
anyone?

No, bastibro, I didn't like your comment about the goat's wool socks.
It hurt my feelilngs, but I tried to make the best of the situation and
others were kind enough to help me make the best of it.

I wouldn't make you a pair of socks if your feet were frostbitten!

i asked what his reaction was and what beth's reaction was
is that so strange ?

Superior Offshore International Cancels Ocean Flow Acquisition, Settles Toisa Puma...
Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:16pm EST  Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page[-] Text

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS181284+28-Dec-2007+PNW20071228

RE-CAP

SEPTEMBER 30, 2007: Revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2007 were $75.5 million compared with $64.4 million for the three months ended
September 30, 2006, an increase of $11.1 million


NOVEMBER 2007 LOUIS SCHAEFER SELLS HIS STOCK:

11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.84
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.82
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.80
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 187 $8.75
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 125 $8.74
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.72
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.71
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 658 $8.70
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.69
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.68
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.64
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.60
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.50
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.42
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.34
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.23
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.22
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.17

FEBRUARY 1, 2008 Superior is reorganizing & in a cash flow crunch.
http://tinyurl.com/55995b

FEBRUARY 29 LAWSUIT ANNOUNCED ON SCHAEFFER'S COMPANY BY A LAW FIRM IN LOUISIANA
http://au.us.biz.yahoo.com/iw/080229/0368776.html

March 1, 2008 LegallyLex Posted at BFN - about the Persistence leaving and needing more money

MARCH 3, 2008 - RV PERSISTENCE HEADS BACK TO LOUISIANA AND STOPS SEARCH



April 3, 2008 -Posted at BFN
dsurveyor1
John Silvetti, the Persistence and the Search for Natalee
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2008, 10:31:12 PM »

Jamie,
I feel the sites are as safe as they can be. All survey data that was collected, other than what was shared with the authorities, is in our possesion. No data has yet to be released, especially target data......locations.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.15



APRIL 20, 2007, Superior Offshore and Company insiders sold over 10 million shares of common stock to the public, raising gross proceeds in excess of $152 million
http://securities.stanford.edu/1039/DEEP_01/

APRIL 24 OF ALL OF THE OFFICERS RESIGNED FROM SUPERIOR OFFSHORE COMPANY

APRIL 25 THEY ANNOUNCED FILING A CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080425/laf521.html?.v=2


MAY 5, 2008 = CAPS posts about the pond being roped off
May 8, 2008 = Kyle posts: John Silvetti told me today that he may be returning to Aruba very soon for a few days.
On May 8, 2008, the Company filed a motion with the Court for authority to sell a
12-Man 300 meter skid-mounted saturation diving system and related
equipment to Global Industries Offshore LLC (“Global”) for a cash payment
of $6,750,000.00


May 19, 2008
KYLE:
"I couldn't get the logs from the Persistence. All things "Holloway" were stripped from the boat once it got back to Louisiana.

And no one else on this forum said any such thing, either.  That was pure misinformation designed to alienate.  So who knows what else Jug Twitty has been told by ldstlou? 

It's been posted already, do the search for your answers please.

exactly.

  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

O/T - Anna and kermit please check the musings thread for a public service message.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   I'm sorry, but this made me think of a song....how deep is the ocean, how wide is the sea?   

Guess it depends on where they find the oil with their technology.  Kyle might know.   ::MonkeyWink::

Forgive me Magnolia and thanks anyway ::MonkeyWink::

Thank you, None. 

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it's about discontent about promotions and several allowances.

this 48 hours is just a threat to put the pressure on i think.
another such a threat is that there is fear that there will be trouble maintaining order on the streets if the problems aren't resolved before carnaval.

what i find interesting is that Oduber is trying to bring the union and the police chief in agreement.
i would have expected justice minister Rudy Croes to do this.

so either the problems are particularly severe that Oduber is doing this.
or, what i find more likely, that Croes is not neutral in this because he would also rather have De Witte resign.
this amongst others things because of VNO-gate (De Witte is Dutch).

No, bastibro, that is not what you did.  You called Magnolia a liar and said all she was good for was to knit goat's wool socks--things like that. 

And so this does verify that you keep company at BNH.  We do become known by the company we keep.

.

Bastibro,

Did you 'think' before you posted the CRat crap?

B-I-N-G-O

Ah, I was forgetting the urgency that Carnival would bring!

And maybe Croes would prefer Dompig back since he said he was a "tremendous" police chief.

I don't think he is using that word in the same way as some might take it, lol.   Can mean HUGE as in fat as well.

.

LifeSong.You get the Link to the articles in regards to Superior Offshore? ::MonkeyCool::

RIBBIT  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

   Trade union demands resignation chief
18 Feb, 2009, 14:22 (GMT -04:00)

Police union SPA requires the dismissal of chief Peter de Witte if not within 48 hours some problems

ORANGE CITY - The police union wants chief SPA Peter White if he resigns within 48 hours to solve a number of bottlenecks. Korpsleiding and trade unionists were at the time of this newspaper at the table with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber to a solution.

In a letter demanding that the White SPA immediately the candidate selection for the course that agents must find a higher rank within the Corps to get stops. It must also clarify the new staff. If not than it cost to his head ', the hard language of the union yesterday met with the members.
Premier Oduber also a letter from the police union has given out their dissatisfaction about the situation within the Corps expressing. After this conversation with the Prime Minister again following a meeting at the clubhouse of the police between the union and its members.

The union continues De Witte, in his own benefit, in the gray field between the old and the new trading system. SPA believes that when the chief, he leads the old system operates, and then under the new policy is still not entirely clear.
The corps members are so demotivated by the lack of signals on the part of De Witte, which they can see that actually working for the benefit of staff, that there is also mutual problems and disputes.
SPA is that the disagreements within the Corps not to ensure that law enforcement during the busy carnival period at risk.

PROUDLY.I STAND WITH THE FROG... ::MonkeyWink::

I am very proud to keep company with Kermit!  If you are not, go back to the hidey hole, where you fit in.

So this is merely a labor dispute?

Not good enough, i see now.
The name callings and language are not mine.
It however proves that i don`t have to apologize to Magnolia.

If i had read it well i wouldn`t have post it!
You can delete it 2NJSons_Mom!

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52591.php

today, next of kin of Nashma Briceño have announced they are suing the hospital on Aruba for homicide.

http://www.limburger.nl/article/20090218/REGIONIEUWS01/348942564/1056#

Bastibro, you do not have to apologize to me.  It would never be sincere.

I know for a fact that I saw you posting at BNH, using the same avi that you use here!

As for CharlieRat.....well, he is not a very reliable reference

OOOOOOOOOO sorry caesu ik had het niet gezien  ::MonkeyHaHa::

at the surface it looks like that.
but for a mere labor dispute the prime-minister isn't brought in to work out an agreement.

Use as needed.


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You have GOT to be kidding me Klaas...you are going to jump on this band wagon too?

Let's not make any more assumptions about the conversation with the family member until we hear from Red. I know what was discussed, I am just curious why it has taken a week and a mention from me to even discuss it?

And I beg to differ with you on whether the family cares what is discussed here, that was my understanding of the whole reason for the phone call.

What did topic did I deter? The stack quoting, lalas pencil jokes or the slander of the members of the Persistence the family wants stopped?

I am anxiously awaiting Red's upcoming post.

Absolutely Fabulous. ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I agree

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 ::MonkeyHaHa::  KTF - you are just fabulous!  I'm very glad you are here.

I got the link.   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm still a few pages back, trying to catch up...

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::

If we aren't supposed to discuss it here -- why are you?

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool::

Ms Mags, I luv ya so don't pay any attention to what was said.

Wow....the family wants the jokes about lala's pencils stopped?  She must feel so important. ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


I am just so sure Red is going to hop to it because a poster demands that he do so!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

And what is this bandwagon businesss?

Yes, there are many posts trying to stay on topic but those are just not interesting nor read by some who like to make up their own reality.

i will do the search ! i will ask it peter later this week  ::MonkeyWink::

I'm sure they are positively outraged and that Red will be on here
any minute to put a stop to all pencil jokes!



 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lou, JUST SPIT IT OUT.  This is just rediculous and child like.  Say it and move along.  Who needs all this stupidity?  I know I don't and I am sure no one else does. 

The question is: Who are the trolls here ::MonkeyConfused::

Since this followed my comment I am SO hoping you were NOT referring to me.  ::MonkeyCool::

bastibro, I am not saying anybody in particular is a troll.  Just good to have on hand should one show up.


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Or is it hit dog always hollers, lol.

 ::MonkeyCool::

I have to wonder if there are not a few who aspire to be trolls.

This is just so disappointing.

Now that you've questioned Klaas' integrity on this board, are you next going attempt to impugn Red's? 

Lisa, is it possible that the understanding you were given was meant to spare your feelings?

Nope  ::MonkeyHaHa::

this should really stop
it is not about Natalee anymore
be wise and do your own personal research
 teamwork is the best ::MonkeyHaHa::

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 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

::MonkeyLaugh:: I hope that`s not a pic of you  ::MonkeyLaugh::

I can only see 5 posters here who I know are not trollls.

 
::MonkeyCool::

Bugünkü tartışmanın tek eğlenceli kısmı yabancı dil oldu. Bu, Grumblers gelmek için yeni sevdiğim şey olacak bir grumblin!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyWink::

Teamwork
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj176/bastibro/career-builder-monkey-pointer.jpg)

Contact Details Ocean Flow International 2100 W. Loop S. Suite 500 Houston Texas United States of America 77027-3518 Phone ++713 328 6700 Website http://www.ocean-flow.com Email info@ocean-flow.com
http://www.youroilandgasnews.com/directory/basicRecord.php?listing_id=318
 
 
HOUSTON, Oct. 23, 2007 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Superior Offshore International, Inc. (Nasdaq:DEEP) today announced it has signed a definitive agreement to acquire Ocean Flow International, LLC, a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm based in Houston. The acquisition would be a stock-for-stock transaction valued at approximately $15 million. The closing, which is subject to customary conditions including obtaining certain consents, is expected in the fourth quarter of 2007
http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=129346
 
 
Superior Offshore International has amended its agreement and plan of merger with Ocean Flow International, L.L.C. to extend the deadline for the closing of the acquisition to December 28, 2007.
Ocean Flow is a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm based in Houston.
 http://www.rigzone.com/news/company.asp?comp_id=4337
 
 

HOUSTON, Dec. 28, 2007 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Superior Offshore International, Inc. (Nasdaq:DEEP) today announced that it has jointly agreed with Ocean Flow International L.L.C. to cancel a definitive merger agreement between the two companies. Ocean Flow is a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm.

"While both companies decided that now is not the right time to complete the merger, our discussions have laid the groundwork for what we expect to be a closer cooperative relationship in future marketing opportunities for large projects requiring deepwater fabrication and construction, pipeline engineering and project management capabilities," said Superior Offshore President and Chief Executive Officer Jim Mermis.

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=133607
 
-------------------------
website
http://www.oceanflowinternational.com/index_files/Page1945.html
 

That didn't quite come out right!

What I meant to say was:

A única parte divertida do debate de hoje tem sido a língua estrangeira. Este será o meu novo favorito coisa a fazer quando o Grumblers vir um grumblin '!

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanx Kermit!I believe the link that provided Superior offshore info in chronological order will continue to help LifeSong with the timeline!

Yes LifeSong is shaping it up real nice.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Anybody else having an irresistable urge to quote-stack like crazy?    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll be back in a couple of hours, and will be updating the timeline again later tonight.  Thanks for the add'l dates & info Kermit.  I've got KTF's as well. 

I've also noticed there's quite a bit of information surrounding the pond search escapades that was left off.  (That should be fun, eh?)   ::MonkeyWink::

Anna - I'm the type that wouldn't dare proclaim that timeline finished until every item is included and linked to it's own backup...then I'll just want to color code the items by topic... then...    ::MonkeyShocked::  Well, let's just say I expect it to be a work in progress for a while. 

Thanx LifeSong.Look forward to seeing it later! ::MonkeyWink::

Thanx Kermit!I believe the link that provided Superior offshore info in chronological order will continue to help LifeSong with the timeline!
[/quote]


Anybody else having an irresistable urge to quote-stack like crazy?    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll be back in a couple of hours, and will be updating the timeline again later tonight.  Thanks for the add'l dates & info Kermit.  I've got KTF's as well. 

I've also noticed there's quite a bit of information surrounding the pond search escapades that was left off.  (That should be fun, eh?)   ::MonkeyWink::

Anna - I'm the type that wouldn't dare proclaim that timeline finished until every item is included and linked to it's own backup...then I'll just want to color code the items by topic... then...    ::MonkeyShocked::  Well, let's just say I expect it to be a work in progress for a while. 

[/quote]

The copy and paste crew must've had a difficult time! ::MonkeyHaHa::

Lou does not seem to want to answer such a simple question. Wonder why?

Can't wait.

 ::MonkeyDance::

Anybody else having an irresistable urge to quote-stack like crazy?    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll be back in a couple of hours, and will be updating the timeline again later tonight.  Thanks for the add'l dates & info Kermit.  I've got KTF's as well. 

I've also noticed there's quite a bit of information surrounding the pond search escapades that was left off.  (That should be fun, eh?)   ::MonkeyWink::

Anna - I'm the type that wouldn't dare proclaim that timeline finished until every item is included and linked to it's own backup...then I'll just want to color code the items by topic... then...    ::MonkeyShocked::  Well, let's just say I expect it to be a work in progress for a while. 

[/quote]

The copy and paste crew must've had a difficult time! ::MonkeyHaHa::
[/quote]

ribbit

LifeSong
Anybody else having an irresistable urge to quote-stack like crazy?    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll be back in a couple of hours, and will be updating the timeline again later tonight.  Thanks for the add'l dates & info Kermit.  I've got KTF's as well. 

I've also noticed there's quite a bit of information surrounding the pond search escapades that was left off.  (That should be fun, eh?)   ::MonkeyWink::

Anna - I'm the type that wouldn't dare proclaim that timeline finished until every item is included and linked to it's own backup...then I'll just want to color code the items by topic... then...    ::MonkeyShocked::  Well, let's just say I expect it to be a work in progress for a while. 

[/quote]

KEEPTHEFAITH

The copy and paste crew must've had a difficult time! ::MonkeyHaHa::
[/quote]

Just clarifying who said what.. ::MonkeyWink::

Anybody else having an irresistable urge to quote-stack like crazy?    ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'll be back in a couple of hours, and will be updating the timeline again later tonight.  Thanks for the add'l dates & info Kermit.  I've got KTF's as well. 

I've also noticed there's quite a bit of information surrounding the pond search escapades that was left off.  (That should be fun, eh?)   ::MonkeyWink::

Anna - I'm the type that wouldn't dare proclaim that timeline finished until every item is included and linked to it's own backup...then I'll just want to color code the items by topic... then...    ::MonkeyShocked::  Well, let's just say I expect it to be a work in progress for a while. 

[/quote]

The copy and paste crew must've had a difficult time! ::MonkeyHaHa::
[/quote]

KTF -

If you continue to stack, billb may drop in and accuse you of trying to steal his crown...stackaholic !!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

BUCKSHOT

The copy and paste crew must've had a difficult time! ::MonkeyHaHa::
[/quote]

KTF -

If you continue to stack, billb may drop in and accuse you of trying to steal his crown...stackaholic !!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

BUCKSHOT


[/quote]

It was a great time last night stackin with all the Monkey's.BillB put me in my place regarding his stackaholism!His crown is safe! ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm just catching up, so this may have already been answered.


Contact Details Ocean Flow International 2100 W. Loop S. Suite 500 Houston Texas United States of America 77027-3518 Phone ++713 328 6700
Website http://www.ocean-flow.com Email info@ocean-flow.com
http://www.youroilandgasnews.com/directory/basicRecord.php?listing_id=318 

HOUSTON, Oct. 23, 2007 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Superior Offshore International, Inc. (Nasdaq:DEEP) today announced it has signed a definitive agreement to acquire Ocean Flow International, LLC, a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm based in Houston. The acquisition would be a stock-for-stock transaction valued at approximately $15 million. The closing, which is subject to customary conditions including obtaining certain consents, is expected in the fourth quarter of 2007
http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=129346 

Superior Offshore International has amended its agreement and plan of merger with Ocean Flow International, L.L.C. to extend the deadline for the closing of the acquisition to December 28, 2007.
Ocean Flow is a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm based in Houston.
 http://www.rigzone.com/news/company.asp?comp_id=4337 

HOUSTON, Dec. 28, 2007 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Superior Offshore International, Inc. (Nasdaq:DEEP) today announced that it has jointly agreed with Ocean Flow International L.L.C. to cancel a definitive merger agreement between the two companies. Ocean Flow is a privately held deepwater subsea project engineering and offshore project management services firm.

"While both companies decided that now is not the right time to complete the merger, our discussions have laid the groundwork for what we expect to be a closer cooperative relationship in future marketing opportunities for large projects requiring deepwater fabrication and construction, pipeline engineering and project management capabilities," said Superior Offshore President and Chief Executive Officer Jim Mermis.

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=133607
website http://www.oceanflowinternational.com/index_files/Page1945.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494664,00.html

this Allan Stanford financial scandal has an Aruba connection:

STANFORD GROUP ARUBA N.V.
Marisol Building, 2nd Floor
L.G. Smith Boulevard 60
Oranjestad, Aruba, Dutch West Indies
297.583.1033

http://www.conasev.gob.pe/emisoras/Ficha_empresa.asp?p_codigo=115021

Dutch media is reporting about this Aruban/Dutch connection.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article1151092.ece/Kleine_Madoff_was_held_in_het_Caribisch_gebied


http://www.businessinsider.com/regulators-examining-stanford-group-for-possible-fraud-2009-2
maye this is something of interest to look into.

Yes Jen.Thanx.Deep breaths while you get caught up! ::MonkeyCool::

DANA PRETZER TONIGHT:
www.scaredmonkeysradio.com


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These quote stacks are another negative thing here lately in addition to the bashing. It sure would be great if Red would drop by and give us his opinion on this matter of "quote stacks".........he could get a great idea of forum use by reading oh maybe..the last 8 pages in the Natalee Case Discussion #800. ::MonkeyRoll::

 :smt018    :smt018

Let's not start this early in the thread.  I participated & allowed it last night in order to move to a new cage.  It was getting past my bedtime.     :smt015     I couldn't read a thing on page 49 & 50 within the stacks.     ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Klaas, looks like Dana's got a great lineup for tonight!   ::MonkeyCool::

Is it possible she simply failed to understand?










Again.
 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks 2NJ....I couldn't read it either....lol!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Bastibro has brought in a post from Charlie Rat that bashes Klaas.
ldstlala has questioned both Klaas and Red's integrity.
I don't like that even a little bit.

I hope I can get back home in time to listen to this.  The guest who has information on cyber stalking looks especially interesting to me.


.

  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Me Either!

Me either Magnolia!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Neither do i Magnolia.I believe they can handle themselves though!

YW - but I see that our lil green buddy had already posted it!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Day late and a dollar short - that's me lately.

And I finally catch up to see we have a few multi-lingual monkeys!

I thought they were talking in tongues.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yep...I was doing alittle copy and pasting Myself to see what the heck They were saying...lol  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Well it was all Greek to me.  ::MonkeyLaugh::

I only know English and a bit of sign language...............and I don't see a smiley that depicts the one sign I know.  ::MonkeyCool::

......and the bashing goes on no? Why did you refer to Ldstlou as ldstlala?

I think we all need to put on our big girl panties or tighty whities as the case may be.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: LifeSong's compilation will be interesting to watch evolve!

  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue::

translations please!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Good night ::MonkeyWink::

Ah, another one who speaks for Red.

Let's see.  There were 300 over in the Caylee Thread and 5 plus a few assorted trolls guests here.

Yeah, I bet those stack quotes are the utmost thing in his mind.  Next to Lala's pencils having jokes made about them, of course.  That's the real outrage.

But how lucky he is to have you and ld to speak for him and she even claims to know about his private phone conversations.

Between your mind-reading and her insider information, why we really don't need to hear anything from Red at all because we have you two to speak for him!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

amazing isn't it... ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Night Bastibro!

caesu

Amigoe  11/04/05:

...The new team of ministers consists of 7 ministers that have also been in the cabinet-Oduber III. Education-minister Frido Croes goes to The Hague and Marisol Tromp gets the education portfolio and keeps Social Affairs and Infrastructure. Rudy Croes keeps Justice but without the responsibility for the Coastguard, which goes to the Prime Minister, same as the visa policy. The permit policy and Administrative Affairs go to Booshi Wever and he keeps Public Health. Lee keeps Labour, Culture, and Sport. Nilo Swaen keeps Economic Affairs and Finance. Eddie Briesem keeps Tourism and transportation.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_10_30_archive.html

I thing DeWitte is head of the Coastguard...so reports to Oduber  :smt102 :smt102

So you think we should all just let the trolls come here and attack as they see fit?
They post things that are untrue and malicious...including personel information, and
monkeys are to not respond? 

Anybody can see the differences in ldstlou's posting style.  I believe that is why she
has been dubbed ldstlala.

You want them to just take over this board?  Is that what I am understanding?

What's the deal here?  Are you, Lou and whoever trying to tell the rest of us we need to stop posting?  If so then I WANT to hear it from Klaas and Red NOW!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/08/18/peter-de-witte-acting-director-of-aruban-na-coast-guard-named-new-chief-of-police-aruba/

(Amigoe: Aug 18, 2006) Peter de Witte new chief of police Aruba

ARUBA — Peter de Witte, acting director of the Coastguard of the Neth.Antilles and Aruba will become the new chief of police.   Effective January 1st, 2007 he will formally succeed chief of police Ronny Bernadina, but he will start working on November 1st.

His assignment is for a maximum of three years.  He will have to make a clean sweep in the police organization.  His appointment developed from a cooperation between the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) and the Corps of national police service (KPLD) in the Netherlands.  A protocol was created for this that Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP), Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP) and the Dutch ministers of Home Affairs and Governmental Renewal and Kingdom Relations will sign in the Netherlands late September.  De Witte will temporarily take service with KPLD and is assigned to the Aruban police corps.  After the three years, he will be replaced by a new local chief of police.  He will be assisted by three local experts, including a district attorney, an expert in the field of personnel, and a person from the police corps

Not sure if you know or if it matters Blue Moon.LdSTlou just had a welcoming party at the forum that Bleachedblack tends to frequent.Which is also frequented by Lala's,Yapperz,Casa,as well as MuminOhio.Does it mean anything?I don't know.That's for you to decide... ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/08/18/peter-de-witte-acting-director-of-aruban-na-coast-guard-named-new-chief-of-police-aruba/


this could explain why Croes, the bully, isn't too happy with Dutchman De Witte and Oduber, the diplomat, is trying to solve the problems between the police union and De Witte.

you are faster  ::MonkeyHaHa::

One of the interesting things is that:  he will formally succeed chief of police Ronny Bernadina.  Some keep making the mistake that Van der Straaten was chief of police.  It was actually Bernadina...for all those Shango people referring to the chief of police, as Dirty Hand....

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Just this time caesu, and you took more time bolding items in yours!  You're usually much faster than I am, and that's o.k. with me!  I appreciate all that you bring here!   ::MonkeyCool::

Bleachedblack.Do you copy and paste to GM from SM?

Yes, that is interesting Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::

BB - you seriously think Red cares about quote stacks? I don't even care about quote stacks until someone complains, then I only care BECAUSE someone complained.  I just scroll on by. 

Did you read the post? I posted nothing that is speaking FOR Red. I suggested if he drops in he should read thread#800 the last 7-8 pages and see what he thinks. What is not clear about that?

What is not clear is why you think he would care in the first place.

And why you think others care what you think about this forum.

CnG too.

I was so hoping that you and Ldstlala's would do just that very thing! 

That's the ONLY reason for the gripes about the quote stacks, they're sooooo afraid they might have missed something!

It's ridiculous! 

jmo

Now did I say anyone should quit posting? I was mentioning the useless waste of space that quote stacking game is. Read the pages of the thread I listed , and then we'll talk....