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Smooth move.

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Here  ::MonkeyDance::

RiverWalk...why would her ex want to help her out like that (your last post)? I'm with you, though, lets help find Haleigh if possible. That precious face needs to be found no matter who ends up taking care of her.

About the STEP in Tabby's post from Topix:  (I edited and added on to my post on the closed thread)

Was one of the name(s) Johnny Jack Lauramore?  He would be Haleigh's step GRANDFATHER as he is a step-dad to Crystal Sheffield.

He filed for visitation for his child with Nancy Marie Sheffield (now Griffis) (Civil case).  He's a convicted felon and SCAREY (in my opinion) and has more charges than I could list.  Marie and Johnny Jack were both convicted of:  INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA in 1997.

https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php 
Click the Criminal or Civil Side.  Then enter a NAME (just last name is easier and then narrow it down with a FIND search) and % sign after just the last name.

Something else to ponder while seeking what happened to HALEIGH (isn't that what we are gathered here for?).  No stone unturned?  Everyone needs to be looked at and scrutinized.  IMO.

MORE about the Lauramore family:  http://newshopper.sulekha.com/photos/slideshow/670814.htm

Look up this cuz too:  Amanda Lauramore.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: I was first!!!! Can't believe it.

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Made the jump.  Thanks Klaas ::MonkeyDance::

So does that fit with the one sentence in that post? Sign on the fencepost, granpa was a step.

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Made it!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/monkey%20avatars/swingingmonkey.gif)

Is that the proposal picture with a take-out bag on the table?  ::MonkeyRoll::

I get left behind....

WOW!!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

Sounds like at least one or more folks may know something, or think they do.  Am sure hoping that this person reports what s/he may know to LE so they can check it out.  Better to do that and have it proven wrong, than have it be true and not followed up on, ya know?   

On the other hand, it could have been posted by someone as a type of revenge thing against folks they don't like much. 

It does fit in with my theory tho.  lol

Thanks for posting this, Tabby! 

Don't know other than needs $/wants $, etc?  HE is someone (not married to Marie) to look at IMO.  Follow the link (provided) to Putnam County Civil and Criminal Cases and lawdy that guy is about as "dirty" as they come.  IMO.

Finding Haleigh is what it is about and that is what SM does best.  Dig folks dig.

Note this person is posting from Mississippi:


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Awwwww... (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif)

You weren't all alone in there, I was typing a post.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Now that's funny because Laurel is about the same size of Satsuma, one light last time I drove thru there ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Your post is what reminded me of this. Maybe junk. Surely someone on Topix gave this to the police???

Klaasend are 3 stack quotes ok?

lol,  you've got it Rose, and Misty is so happy she could just s_ _t

More discription of the doors on this video: ::MonkeyTongue::
Door adjared

http://www.wesh.com/video/18692416/index.html (http://www.wesh.com/video/18692416/index.html)

How romantic  ::MonkeyRoll::

I was in topix trying to find that post for klaas and the rest, shucks,If I'd a known she jus wanted to know where the person was posting from, i found that shortly after I started looking.. :)

I sooo think this abduction was staged to set the ground work for Crystal to get custody.. I think Wyks is right...

It's a day-long quote stack that's not so ok.   ::MonkeyWink::

Am feeling like maybe we need to report this, just in case?  What do you guys think? 
 

wyks, I read some more posts and people there said they reported it. Klaasend is right that the person is a long way away if that's where they really are. My cable company came to change out our modem and I show up somewhere in NC (to my cable co) and I'm not, so who knows?

Thanks Searching! 

Am bringing over my theory from the last thread, in case someone wants to see it again:

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I mentioned earlier in this case that one of my theories *could possibly be*:

Haleigh 'abducted', time goes by, everyone searching, tracking down leads.
Biomom Crystal files for custody of Jr, citing something like she didn't want the same to happen to Jr.
Court might just rule in her favor, placing Jr in her custody.
Time goes by, to everyone's amazement, Haleigh is dropped off, alive and well, at a safe haven in Somewhere, USA.
Crystal gets custody of Haleigh as well.

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We've been hearing for a few days the rumors that Crystal is supposedly trying for custody.
Ron/Misty supposedly *suddenly* decide to marry, and quickly at that.  (I wondered the other day if it were possible that Ron is doing this so that he can say to the judge that HE is married, while in the meantime, Crystal supposedly cannot marry her fiance until his divorce is final.  Which would look better to the judge?  A married father or an unmarried mother?)
Crystal has hired an attorney, which by the way, handles custody cases.

Soooooo... let's just see if what happens after Ron's marriage is that Crystal files for custody of Jr and gets it.  Then Haleigh may just show up, alive and unharmed, Crystal gets custody of Haleigh, and they all live happily ever after.

  ::MonkeyEek::

Searching, what do you think happened if that's true (not meaning this guy in MS but your theory)? Do you think it just blew up faster than they ever dreamed of and they just weren't thinking? I'd love for you to be right for Haleigh's sake.

I have thought this. I thought there was something funny about 1.) Marie saying Haleigh was in Alabama or Georgia, and that she is fine like within the first few days, 2) owing back child support, 3.) timing of Haleigh's disappearance with the contempt of court papers, 4) mud slinging from maternal family and, well I'll stop there. These are my gut feelings, and I hope they are true because that means Haleigh is safe and will come home soon.

oh my goodness...how cruel to Haleigh would that be???
Nancy Grace was not too kind to Crystal's lawyer tonight...it is on now...I am catching the later show..I did hear her earlier and she is getting down on the peeps who are criticizing Ron/Misty/Crystals lifestyle, say compared to Elizabeth Smart...People saying that Ron Jr should be taken away from Ron since Haleigh disappeared from the home....no one said that the siblings of Elizabeth Smart should have been taken away because she was taken from the home.....She is on Horowitz's butt big time....anyone else watching it?  because of their lifestyle of living in mobile home and have no money? NG is asking this....She isn't too crazy about Crystal getting an attorney...she is asking Why?

Wyks...I think that we are ok on that stack.... ::MonkeyCool::  we be cool!

Geez, it looks like he should be bending down to tie her shoes.

I think this could definitely be a possibility.. it's not like we are dealing with a group of Mensa members or Rhodes scholars, y'know?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nancy doesn't like lawyers :)   I guess she'll be mad at Ron soon because I'm sure he'll get one now too. You think we might get any info from a hearing? Will they close it?

Oh good, am hoping they did report it.  Yeah, it's odd, being that far away yet supposedly knowing all this.  Yet am thinking it's still possible, someone could just have moved, etc.  Or, it's also possible like you said, the IP address showing up for the company, not necessarily in the same place as the person lives. 

Those posts are interesting tho! 

Tabby ~  don't worry about the quote stacks.  Three or even more is fine.  We don't usually worry about quote stacks here.  It can get hard to see who said what if they get too huge though.  To me, and this is my opinion, when they get up there past say about 10, they get harder to sort out.   I remember a time I think some were trying to see just how big they could get  ::MonkeyHaHa::   I commented on that huge one in the last thread , because it seemed so many were quoting it, and a reply or a reference would have done as well.  But no worries.  You are doing just fine, as are the others here tonight  ::MonkeyCool::

I'd say report EVERYTHING that might bring her back........not feeling this is the case IMO, Crystal looked distraught yesterday at the presser and has already been hopsitalized once already for dehydration and exhaustion..........I'm leaning towards Misty knows something and is holding over his head in order to get him to marry her.

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For Haleigh's sake, I sure hope you're right Lola! 

I am about ready to call it a night peeps....really tired ....
but I am afraid that I will miss something! ::MonkeyDance::

Tattoo guy again

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I tattooed him he contradicted himself over and over,we have 6 video cameras in the studio and everyone was watching and couldnt belive what they were hearing from ron and his girlfriend."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMhfevtM9c&feature=related

 ::MonkeyEek:: She looks about 12 yrs old in that pic.

Thank you Muffy.

IM, I don't think Crystal would be in on this if someone thought they were helping her. I doubt that's what happened but it would be better than the alternatives I'm thinking of. I don't see Misty being smart enough to pull off anything. If she's responsible, it would be because she left, but then I think they would be coming down on her hard by now and we'd know it.

I agree, Klaas; Someone coming in from outside and opening the door from the outside would have pushed the laundry on the the floor to behind the door as the door opened; So the clothes would end up behind the door - b/w the door and the wall.

So what was holding the inside wood door open from slowing swinging shut on the auto closer? It was the one that was said to be WIDE open when Misty walked into the kitchen to get a drink... or go to the bathroom... or .... ?

Very interesting.  It sounds like the screen door was propped and when whoever went out the wood door was not shut but left to close on its own.  The LE said it was blowing in the breeze, did I hear that right?

Yeppers!   ::MonkeyDance::

I too was thinking how young she looks in the pic.

After viewing that video IMO I think LE took the wooden door for evidence and observation... ::MonkeyTongue::

who are you talking about ? Misty? she looks young cause she is young...tee hee! ::cartwheel::

ok...monkey going to bed now...

Monkeys...have to tell you how much I have enjoyed this day of posting...it has been a pleasure...
cya all tomorrow..xxxxx Cooks...

LE referred Misty as the teen child... ::MonkeyTongue::

I hear ya, IM. 

What if this is true, and what Misty is hiding is that she's in on it?   ::MonkeyEek::  Might be something to the effect, 'I get my kids and you get your man'.   ::MonkeyShocked::

What about Marie being behind it, Crystal not knowing? Marie is always right next to Crystal and just seems to cool. IDK. I definitely dont think Misty is capable of being able to pull this over the LE and FBI's eyes, and If Ron did not want the kids he would have left them with their mom. This is so frustrating. I hope this comes to an end soon and anyone behind this gets a one way ticket to jail for a long time. These are just some possibilities.

OMG Wyks... ::MonkeyRoll::

minnie, I just rewatched an LE press conference from early on and that's the way they said it...blowing back and forth.

The fact Haleigh did not yell out or fight, yes,she could have remained asleep,some say chloroform, I say she recognized her abductor and had no fear of them. The person that did this knew the routine/schedule of those living in the home and also knew of this "item" that Haleigh should have with her at all times...When I mentioned that the other day, I got a reply it could have been a neighbor, my neighbors did not know my son was on a monitor for SIDS nor did they know I had a nebulizer for his brother, my family did though,and so did the in-laws, I think she was taken because they had no one to go to court to back up their claims of abuse and this sets the stage for Crystal to get custody of the children,something the drowning claim in the last hearing did not succeed in doing.She had no proof it happened,can not deny the abduction of Haleigh. I think the person went in,took her and her nebulizer,which I am sure was in a handy area with quick easy access in plain site, i think she has been stashed away and as Wyks said, she will be dropped off somewhere safe and sound after Crystal gets custody of them.Maybe sooner..

Cruel to Haleigh? that depends on who's mind you go by. Someone could feel that they should be with Crystal due to suspicions of abuse, If they think the little ones are being abused,well, they may not think it cruel.. The things people do sometimes are amazing... ly stupid......There have been cases where this has actually been done...so I have heard anyway.. will go do some searching and see if I can find any info...

Good night cookie, see you tomorrow.  Pleasant dreams (http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/9.gif)

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Could be lolabelle. Crystal seems ok with Ron until Marie comes around (sorry IM! I know you like Marie - I still want to come live with you!)

Crystal had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance... in my opinion. And neither did the Easter Bunny.... in my opinion.

I never really 'felt' Marie the way I did Ms Nieves..I just wish Nieves didnt make that hurtful comment about the kids wanting a new mommy. It seems that family members on both sides like to toss wood on the fire..

 ::MonkeyRoll:: I sure as h#ll hope they turned those videos over to the police........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

Are they tapes of RC getting his tattoo??

Absolutely IM.  They should turn them over, if they haven't yet.  Hopefully, it's been done. 

Yes their are, but usually the child is with the parent that abducted them, it was in the Justice Dept stats i posted a couple of nights ago, and in those cases the child was returned within 48 hours.

IMO I dont have much good to say about Teresa ...Why make all the excuses why Ron and babysister/teenager/maomwannabe should get married @ a time where a child is missing.
A child who happens to be her grandchild and sons daughter..  ::MonkeyNoNo::


She said the wedding ceremony would be bittersweet without her smiling granddaughter.

"It's going to be hard. It's an event that Haleigh really should be at, but when she comes home, we'll have a great big wedding so she can be the flower girl and see it all again," Neves said. ::MonkeyShocked::

Searching, Do you really think they are that stupid to think they can just drop her off and all this will be well and good.  Of course everyone will be happy Haleigh is okay, but they are going to be madder than hell that they have put all the good people thru a terrible horror.  And I mean LE and people all over the country who are praying for this child and donating money.

If this is the case whoever did it is going to be in a heap of trouble.  And maybe they are that stupid.  I haven't really seen lots of evidence of genus here.  It would be wonderful and if true let's pray it happens quickly.

Searching...your theory makes more sense to me than Misty fooling the FBI (unless they are playing her until they find Haleigh).

Your theory would make sense of why they called off the searches so early. If any of Crystal's relatives flunked or refused the LDT, that might be why they turned it from "a search to an investigation". It also might be why the Cummings haven't fired back at the other side because they have been told by LE at least part of what might be going on. (other than the "mommy" comment)

I don't know, it sounds too complicated, but it's also pretty complicated for a child to vaporize, as Rob said.

OK  nobody asked me, well come to think of it no body has asked me anything all day long...lol

  But I for one do not believe Chrstal did this or anybody that knows her did it either, if that was the case it could have been done much earlier like before she got so behind in support payments and while the children were still small and maybe wouldnt be able to talk like Haleigh will if and when she is found......
   I know that she may have wanted them with her but it also seems she was doing ok without them, she had a new boyfriend and a new daughter and I know that doesnt mean she didnt want the other 2, but I just dont think for some reason that she would have resorted to this, kinda out there if you know what I mean....

I don't know her well enough to have formed that opinion, I will say I have a ton of respect for her because if someone offered my 500.00 I'd take it, and they are actually going to psychics to try and get answers.........If I had been Crystal, i'd have taken both kids and left the country (I had my plan if my son's dad even rec'd supervised custody), I wouldn't have left any child ther if I thought they were in grave danger.

She fits the pattern of a typical enabler~just like my ex (satan) mom did........

I have noticed that as time goes on,more allegations of abuse ar being made when in the beginning,Crystal and family spoke of how much RC loves his children and he would never do anything to hurt them. The abused woman does not explain that because she is not with him, was not with him and there was no possible way for him to hurt her,the area was crawling with LE..so why the sudden change in gears?

http://books.google.com/books?id=p_Y0uJuhcYsC&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=underground+railroad+for+abused+women&source=bl&ots=adQQT1FXWf&sig=c38VixmuiXoEnVM6C_Avn14WFzc

not 1 specific case but information that is interesting.

 Secret Network Helps Children Flee Sex Abuse

   

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE1D61438F933A15755C0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: June 20, 1988

LEAD: Around the country, mothers who say their sons and daughters have been sexually abused by their fathers are finding shelter in an informal underground network that provides cash, comfort and sometimes new identities to the women and children fleeing what they consider an unjust legal system.

Around the country, mothers who say their sons and daughters have been sexually abused by their fathers are finding shelter in an informal underground network that provides cash, comfort and sometimes new identities to the women and children fleeing what they consider an unjust legal system.

I think she is throwing some weight around because she works as a dispacher @ the sheriff office... ::MonkeyTongue::

Good night all!  Say a prayer for Haleigh and all the missing little ones and have sweet dreams. :smt015

Good night Heart.  Stay warm. :sunny: :sunny:

But, in those cases the mother/father fled WITH the child...........

Goodnight to those going to bed....
sweet dreams..
and I too am going to my monkey bunky.. its been a long day.. I had a toilet leak and had to remove it and replace the wax ring.. ugh.. I feel like I went 10 rounds against chris brown,..  ::MonkeyWink::
Now I have to retile the bathroom floor.. thank God I know how to do stuff..

God Please bring Haleigh home safe.....

If Crystal feared for her kids being with Ron that bad, why didn't she try before now to get them?

Why did she move so far away when her dad is right there? I wouldn't only see my kids four days a month if I feared for them. I think she does fear for them now (who wouldn't) but why wait? It looks like she had accepted the situation.

I just hope they find Haleigh and then whoever gets her, both sides should have to re-take their parenting classes.

This is frustrating as he77. Where is this little girl???

I guess deep down inside, I think a SO stole her but I truly hope not.

I just do not see someone taking her to help with a custody issue. The first interview with Ron...Was like watching Susan Smith all over again. I knew she was lying from the first interview and I feel the same way about Ron. You do not go from the sniffling sobs of a child...to prostrate on the ground, to coming back in 30 seconds with anger. He was full of bravado at the tattoo shop and at the courthouse Monday, but yesterday had to be helped to stand...I call BS

ITA.. I think LE is watching them - Maybe lead them to Haleigh... ::MonkeyTongue::

Goodnight to all of the Monkeys that are going to bed.. Sweet dreams.

higherhopes, I meant to add that I agree with you about Haleigh being able to identify who has her. Maybe someone arranged for someone she doesn't know to take care of her?

I guess I'm back to a SO but I'd rather it be someone who loves her and just didn't think.

You have the best user name ever. :)

Good night flamom (http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/12.gif)

Pleasant dreams.  And it's good you DIY.  It could cost a fortune otherwise.

Just thinking out loud... I wonder if there is a way we can find out the route Ron takes to go to work or where is work site was located... ::MonkeyTongue::

I agree (unless they parent fled with the child s we see all the time) and I agree he almost sprinted from the courthouse, but looked like he couldn't even stand up for the presser......I call BS, and will double down on it!

When I read the eyes for lies blogspot piece, she mentioned everything that set off my gut instincts to a T.

I hope LE is on to someone. That means they know more than they are letting on and that's good. I don't care who it is other than to see them punished.

About Susan Smith, she was smart, had a good job, etc. and LE broke her in little over a week. If they have a suspect on Haleigh, how is this person not breaking?

Good night to all you early birds. I'll be the resident night owl.

Thank You, I love that name too............and I too wish that this would turn out to be so simple, but its just not, if Chrstal's family had planned this then they would have thought it out very carefully and they too would come to the same conclusion that I have, it would not work, they would be in so much trouble and then not only would she loose Haleigh and Jr.  but probably the other child also, so NO.....this is not what happened!!!!!

I have been harping on that for a week now Jersey....I have to think LE has something....or they would be searching farther out. After watching the video of the news conference posted in the last page or two....something is just niggling in the back of my mind. I just can't put my finger on it.

Good Night Monkeys..
 :smt015

God Bless Haleigh...

They also caught her in a lie, she said she was carjacked when the light was red, and the sherriff knew that after 11pm IIRC that light was never red, only a blinking light. Plus she had that whiney cry thing going on also, NEVER believed her, but felt horrific for her husband as he did ::MonkeyWaa::

Night JG~CYA tomorrow ::MonkeyTongue::

You know what I am thinking the same thing.. Maybe they need more evidence.. ::MonkeyTongue::

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His home and his company location.

I also hope there is some DNA(from the perp) that was found within the residence to back up LE's claims or possible future charges. I have seen in a few cases that the LE did not have evidence so they do what they can to bring a family member down for a crime they did not commit. I want Haleigh found safe, and I also want the actual person behind it all to be punished and not someone the LE jumps to conclusions on just to close up the case.

Wykes, do you really believe the bio mom and family are behind this?? I have been out of the loop all day so please forgive me if this comes off as a "stupid question."

Also, I really think as soon as R/M "tie the knot" and I heard they would be married this week, they w/also "lawyer up" as a married couple.

I just find it difficult to fathom bio mom behind this.

Thanks.  Nice map Brandi

I hear what you're sayin' there.  But there are many in law enforcement that go the extra mile for those that harm children.  JMHO

Brandi ..Thats great you posted the map- :smt038   Now do you know if that is where he was working that day or was that just the place of the company he worked for. I know the company does work on bridges..And if you know in the area where bridges are being worked on or new bridges going up in the area.....
on bridges

If you think back on Susan Smith, Casey Anthony and now Ron and Misty....you will find they have said alot of things to tip their hand.Susan lied about the light first thing....then after the first search of the lake..She made the comment "I thought sure they would find my boys at the lake". She was the only one in the family that could go to bed and sleep all night.
Casey...... "I left her at the steps ".....They have not even found her clothes yet.
Ron ... "I was trying to make an honest living and some piece of trash stole my little girl." If I find the MF'er I will kill them." I was working and someone stole my daughter"
Misty....I got up to go to bathroom....Haleigh got up to go to the bathroom...I got up to get a drink of water. Saw the kitchen light on and back door was standing wide open.

Jersey .. I am not in Florida.

I have no idea if Ronald drives into the company location to report for work or not.

But we have a general idea now where his home and company are located in relation to each other.

Thanks all.

*shrug*

This was on the youtube vid about Ron getting the tat's.

amsterdampictures (15 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply I tattooed him he contradicted himself over and over,we have 6 video cameras in the studio and everyone was watching and couldnt belive what they were hearing from ron and his girlfriend.

It's just a theory, Lucky.   ::MonkeyWink::  Just one theory among several.  I have at least one each for Ron/Misty/Crystal/RSOs and SOs that aren't even registered yet.  Am an equal opportunity theorist.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think they are gonna lawyer up too.  Seems only fair since Crystal is lawyered up.  I'd do the same cuz I wouldn't want to go head to head with someone who has a lawyer and me not having one. 

It's difficult for me to think anyone could do such a thing with a child, and yet it happens across the USA and beyond.  Dang it.  :(
 

Again I will say this, the first thing that Ronald says is my clue that he knows that he made someone mad enough to do this, or he knew that this was pay back for something, I just get that feeling and I dont know why, but Im telling you I just know when its all said and done its gonna be someone that has something against Ronald!

and now you can bet your happy butt that LE has those 6 videos from them 6 cameras!

Ron goes over and around alot of water on his way to work.And probably alot of dense woods  too.

Do you think someone outside the family took her? Or a sex offender? I just can't believe that even the FBI doesn't have a clue. I started to say it's not like the person got a huge head start, but we really don't know what time she was taken.

I'm hoping they called off Tim and the other searches because they know she is not there and they have some idea why they know that.

Good Night Sweet Monkeys... ::MonkeyCool::

I am going to do some searches tomorrow on new bridges and bridges being worked on in the surrounding area...

God Bless Haleigh..

I'll post it over on the maps section of this thread. And I will not move or delete it from my photobucket account.

Just for you! ;-)

yep, you sure can HH.

When I was in Satsuma, I noticed that alot of people had bad things to say about Ronald but it wasnt anything to do with his children, they all agreed he was a good dad, but that he was a bad guy too!!!

Good Night Monkeys ...this old woman has had it for the night.Prayers for Haleigh.

It is posted in this thread along with some other pictures and maps: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4536.0

Agreed. I don't mean to disrespect any hones LE. It would just be nice to end up with proof that no one could dispute.

I've known a few people like that. My first instinct was actually the same as yours...someone did this as revenge to Ron because they know he loves her more than anything else in his life. Poor little baby girl.

Last night, one of the guys on Issues said that Ron is only hanging out or seen with LE and his pastor. I wonder if he is coming to grips with it and having to rat on everyone he's ever had bad dealings with. He went from extremely emotional to just a look of hatred in his eyes, like he knows who may have done this and just isn't allowed to say yet.

Wykes, glad to know you "keep it real" w/your theory's. From now on, I w/address you as the EOT!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

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amsterdampictures (15 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply I tattooed him he contradicted himself over and over,we have 6 video cameras in the studio and everyone was watching and couldnt belive what they were hearing from ron and his girlfriend.

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Of all days to assume my "butt is happy" when I got a bone marrow biopsy today. My butt isn't too happy right now, but the rest of me feels mighty fine! ::cartwheel::

Of all days to assume my "butt is happy" when I got a bone marrow biopsy today. My butt isn't too happy right now, but the rest of me feels mighty fine! ::cartwheel::


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Ouch luckyday. I hope everything is okay with you.

lol, lucky, I think we are both quote inept right now. :)

Ouch luckyday. I hope everything is okay with you.
[/quote]Sorry about your butt....lol....but if LE finds something important in those videos, then my butt will be happy for yours!!!!

I am def quote and everything else, inept right now. Thanks for your kind words. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?? ::MonkeyCool::

Kinda behind here (pardon the pun), but have those 6 videos been released and have they been released to the media??? Would flove to see them.

I hope this is the case, because if he pissed someone off bad enough and they wanted revenge then what better way to get him back then to take what they knew would hurt him the most, and like you said I hope he is having to tell everything and evereybody he has ever dealt with to LE and is just now comimg to grips with the reason Haleigh might be gone and that would also esplain why he is looking so angry now!!!!!!

That's what they say. I just hope things will be ok for you.

Lucky day, I doubt they have been released to the media, they were in the tatoo place when Ronald got tatood but I bet if they have been taken LE has them!!!

Sorry, am a bit in the dust here - did the tat artist actually tell the media he has 6 videos of Ron talking about the money, etc????

luckyday:

This is a screenprint of his comment:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image29.png)

It is under the video of a newscast covering the day Ron got a tattoo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMhfevtM9c&feature=related

Im pretty sure he was questioned, he posted it on his websight and so if they didnt know before they did as soon as he said this Im sure!

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Note to Scaredmonkeys. I don't know anymore than you guys.I think when I first started posting I may have come on a little to strong,but I did put "heres what I think", "what if" ,jmo.or mho. I am only making a note to you guys so you don't waste to much time wondering about my comments. I am not a member of SM but I do like to read there. I think you all have a very nice forum.I have gotten a lot of good links from SM. I usually mention if I find a link there and repost it though. As for Laurel,ur right ,it's a cable thing..lol


Here's a post to SM  from Topix about what was said at the end of the last thread!!!!!

He posted it on his website???? Because it looked like a you tube quote. It's my bad for not reading back but a new thread started, so was not sure where to go.

LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Nice to see they read here. 

LOL, now we know that is wyks. Just kidding wyks, but that's funny.

I read this board for a good six months before I signed up. Took me 3 times to get approved!!! What's up w/that???  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

Thats what I said too Klaas, and he talked nicely about us!!!!!!!!!  yea!

Oops, I skipped right over this post. That would definitely explain this different kind of anger I see. I think he knows something from LE/to LE and can't say. Remember the walk through with the states attorneys?

I wonder if the tapes were actually rolling or he just meant that everyone was watching him on the 6 cameras.

I'm still chuckling. I think Justwhatithought needs to join here to give us some more theories.

Well, it was an interesting theory anyway. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yep, I feel your pain!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks, Seiko (flove the name..took me awhile to catch on..reminded me of the watch) SO - does this tat artist have his own website? And do you really think this is the tat artist or just some Joe Schmoo???

I have two sleuthing buddies of mine who have registered weeks ago and have not been approved!!!! Wahhhh!! ::MonkeyWaa::

Me too.

Here is their Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/acesandeightstattoosfla

Sieko is actually my dog's name.

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I'd much rather hear this from LE than what we have been hearing.

""We really don't want to release anything that would jeopardize a criminal investigation.  However, should we release anything that will bring Haleigh back, we'll release it even if we jeopardize the criminal investigation"

Video on right
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=133403&provider=top

Wow. So, OK - just emailed them and basically said if this is for real - if you really have videos of him talking smack about all the money he is making, that he/they would prolly be the hero of the decade. Paraphrasing here. Asked them to please turn these over to LE if he hasn't already. I am sure I am not the first to email him and won't be the last.

This should be interesting. W/let you all know if I get a response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uND4ogbsKD4&feature=channel_page

May as well throw them all together
http://www.youtube.com/user/cuppy199

Wow!!! I sure hope this guy has turned those videos over. This just may be ther break in this case we all need!!!! Thanks for the links!!

Off to sleepy town!!!

Night all! And thanks for catching me up to speed!! 

Love this board! ::MonkeyLaugh::

Have a good night, Lucky. :)

I dont know if this has already been posted....well I had never seen it but yet another version of the story...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491008,00.html

Nite luckyday. I hope your "butt" feels better tomorrow!

Brandi, is there any way you can punch up the route "as the crow flies" (aka a more direct route)?  TIA

Foggy

Do you mean about Haleigh getting up to use the bathroom?  I've heard it, but haven't actually seen it spoken by Ron or Misty.  Wish there was a video.  I'm thinking this was just the reporters mistake.

I understand that it could be a typo, but it says "Haleigh had gotten up to use the bathroom, according to Cummings. When she didn't return, Croslin went to look for her and noticed the back door was open."  Which I thought was odd.

Hi everyone, I have been reading back, and I have two thoughts. (see the smoke?)

One is, he cannot possibly work during this crisis?  But a tattoo and a wedding, no problem.  Yes, I have compassion, but everyone has to go back to work sometime, and I know many of us Monkeys have during times of strain.

The other is, my door makes a noise, I hear when someone tries to leave a paper in the door, and I hear when my 19 yr old son tries to "sneak" out or sneak in.  So, certain doors do make noise, but if you don't live there, or you don't know the house, you aren't aware that the door makes a noise, and therefore you wouldn't need to prop it open.  The other thing is, if someone carried Haleigh out, they could push the door open with their body, and not necessarily have to touch the handle or door with their hands. 

very good point!  Makes sense.

I wasn't really thinking typo.  I was thinking more of a misunderstanding.

Not sure how to do that on the maps, but wouldn't that just be a straight line from point A to point B?  On the map it looks to be the only way to get across the river by car.  Unless you hop the train.

very well could be.  I just noticed it and thought I would put it out there.

At the risk of looking dense, and I apologize if it's already been covered and I'm overlooking it...is the FBI involved in this investigation?

Those are the driving directions (often the best route) given by google maps.

By way the crow flies, point A to point B is a little under 8 miles.

Below is mapquest, they agree and have the same route:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image62.png)

I believe I read somewhere recently that they are now.

Yes, the FBI is involved.

Just this weekend, "Hardy said the Sheriff's Office, the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement still are actively working the case and it has not gone cold."

Yes, and have been from the onset:

Feb. 11-
60 or 70, including 16 members of the FBI personnel were involved in the search on Wed.

Thanks.

Does anyone else think that it's odd that Misty, when being interviewed in the beginning, mentioned she had to wash Haleigh's blanket because the little darlin' peed on it and it smelled? It's been bothering hubby and I ever since we heard her say it. She gives details of that night, but why give out that detail? And the way she explains it sounds odd. And here we go with referring to a missing little darlin' as "that little girl" as we've heard in the Caylee Anthony case. It may be nothing, but it strikes us as odd that Haleigh was "stole" as if she were an object, and the happy face along with the happily waving Misty going into the courthouse, and Ron getting tattoos for four hundred dollars. Priorities are screwy. If someone offered him the money for the tat, he should have asked they put it in the pot along with the rest of the money in finding his daughter.

Tks for the map, however Misty had ppl over(gmother too) that night, so ron had nothing to do with taking her that day.   
I still think she's a live.....JMO

Ron's quote: "Only God Can Judge Me"

(Well, IMO he's got that right.) The video shows the large quote on what they say is his truck's back windshield. Don't know if the quote is "new."

Also on the video is Mrs. Neves weighing in on the nuptials:

"Haleigh and Jr often talked about how they'd love for Misty to be their Mommy; and they've asked Daddy several times why he don't marry Misty."

CS's friend gives her assessment of the timing of the upcoming marriage.

LINK below - "Cummings Wedding Plans."

http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Getting-Married/jVE76f-4NE2es3bFqTuuKw.cspx (http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Getting-Married/jVE76f-4NE2es3bFqTuuKw.cspx)
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Wow, I thought Haleigh and Jr. already had a mommy.

K... I know many just-turned-4 and 5 year olds who sit around and discuss the benefits of marriage.... except not.

So if Jr wanted Ron to jump in the lake, would he do that too?

And if it's what Haleigh "wanted" why not wait for her to come back?  What's the rush?

If Misty were pregnant, pregnancy didn't move him to marry the other times. Oh, maybe it's a case of third time (or third baby-mama, perhaps as the case may be) is the charm.

Sheesh.

Oh, I forgot to add that my comments above are either statements of fact or questions....not judgments. (For example, Haleigh and Jr DO already have a mommy; I DO know 4 and 5 year olds.....etc) and the others are questions  (Why the rush? etc) Oh, and also, they're in my opinion.


 ::MonkeyCool::

At the risk of having nanners thrown at me again here are my thoughts:

They are getting married to avoid having to testify against each other - this seems likely to me.

If Misty is pg - then they may be getting married to get her medical coverage - Medicaid (at least here) will go after him for the cost of the pg and take it from his check.  But if you are married, the collection is waived. Big savings. Also, there may be some law about statutory rape and if you are married it is no longer a crime.

These are just guesses so don't throw many nanners. Either way, it is creepy to me for them to get married now - why not earlier? Why not wait for the whole family to be together? Something is pushing them to get married now and I am not sure we will ever know what it is.

What a relief that Jr. asked Ron to marry Misty and not SpongeBob SquarePants.

......in my opinion.  .   ::MonkeyCool::

Does anyone think that MAYBE the girl ,forgot her name, that Mist left a message to on myspace saying, " I have your man AND I'm going to get your baby to has something to do with Haleigh's disapperance? I'm thinking maybe Misty AND ALSO RON has threatened to take her baby from her and she thought "OH, how about I take YOUR baby away from YOU RON! anyone think this is a possibility?? I DO!!! especially IF its Ron's baby and I think it probably IS. JMO

Thanks for the morning laugh!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  That says it all.

This is a smart way to do it if it's a big scam.

"A donation of $767 has been put up for Haleigh's return, increasing the reward to $35,767. Of the total amount, $5,000 will be awarded for the return of the child and $30,767 will be awarded for the arrest and the conviction of the person or persons involved in the crime."

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/12/news/news02.txt

Oh my goodness!  It looks like a Dad, bending down to talk to his 'daughter'!

On another note: did you guys see John Walsh this morning, on The Early Show?

My post is in that darn box again...  ::MonkeyWaa::

I looked and didn't see this posted yet - hope I'm right - sorry if I'm wrong:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120050

Haleigh and the Anniversary Killer

part of the blog:

In Alabama in 1999 it is believed that a construction worker abducted/killed a young girl age 11 named Teresa Dean from a low income trailer park. Her home was near a construction site. Teresa was never found. Then in 2001 there was another girl taken from a low income trailer park near a construction site her name was Shannon Paulk. She was found dead seven weeks later by rabbit hunters. Then in 2003 another 11 year old girl from a low income trailer park was abducted her name was Heaven Ross. Heaven and Teresa’s bodies were never found. The girls homes were all near a construction site either commercial, roadwork, or bridge building was going on near the parks they lived in. Teresa was taken in August 15, 1999, Shannon was taken August 16, 2001 and Heaven was taken August 19, 2003. All in August, Teresa and Shannon’s abduction’s are two years and one day apart, Shannon and Heaven’s abduction are two years and three days apart. Heaven and Teresa’s abductions are four years and four days apart. They have a description of the man that they believe abducted/killed these girls. They believe he is a construction worker. They dubbed him the anniversary killer. Each of the girls lived next to a wildlife refuges also.

The only differences in Haleigh’s abduction and the three girls from Alabama are, Haleigh lives in Florida, the three girls were all 11 years old, Haleigh is only 5 and the time of year that Haleigh was abducted compared to the time of the three victims from Alabama. Could someone of been watching Haleigh?

Oh man, now I know I can post my thoughts over here and not be scolded.  :D

Over yonder, I need to be so careful about what I write.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I too, am leaning toward this direction .. either Crystal set this up OR Ron & or/ Misty.

Come on cookie...think outside the box!  ::MonkeyWink::

Wouldn't it be nice to find out Haleigh has been hanging out at a friends house all this time.

It's nice over here, isn't it?

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7581/moskingqa5.gif)

I didn't.  What did he have to say?

Seiko, I know right? think outside the box....
I didnt' see John Walsh this morning either...anyone know what was said?

Lily, that was an interesting article...so many times construction workers travel all over to do big construction jobs...perhaps it could have been someone who was working on different bridge or infa structure jobs that call in for bigger crews at different times?

YES it WOULD be!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

YES it IS!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

He said that SO many LE were working on it, along with the FBI ... and I couldn't make out the other folks who were involved.

Said that it's SO sad, and they've hit a dead end.... a wall.  It's very frustrating.

Was asked what he thought of the marriage, he said he hopes folks won't judge by that, and maybe it's all innocent, or something to that affect, BUT:

He DID say to that ... 'everybody' is STILL a suspect ... soooo

That's about it.

Can we not edit our posts?   ::MonkeyEek::

Good Morning Monkeys!  you guys were rolling last night!  Hubby kicked me off the pc so I had to resort to the blackberry just when you guys started getting all the new good stuff; wedding, Haleigh's ggpop badguy, new door pics, crystals lawyer on ng.  Man, I have got to figure out wireless networking to get my pc hooked up again so hubby cant kick me off!  Going back some to catch up.

Fatcat....hubby and I have a routine it seems....He leaves me pretty much alone with the computer but every evening around 8-8:30, he wants on the computer to play a few games of solitaire! I do have my lap top so sometimes I get on that ...can you imagine the nerve of him wanting to play solitaire on MY computer???  ::MonkeyDance::

Sorry but the "Proposal Story" is somewhat of a big deal for girls (some girls)..."We were in Paris", "He jumped from a plane playing the violin", "We were deep sea diving in Australia and as a shark swam by he held out a ring"....you know the over exagerated lovey dovey crap that people love to hear and go "mush mush aw aw"....
Um, I can hear it now..."He proposed to me while we were waitin on the rest of our food to be put into take out containers at Chilis...did I mention his daughter from another babies ma'ma was missin?"   
I would demand a DO OVER!!

Nope!  You can request that a Mod or Klaas make the change for you though.

dolce...that is a crackup!  ::MonkeyDance:: A day to remember for sure!

I am not following you here.....please explain a bit more the point you are trying to get across.  Are you talking about Amber??

Ok, I do not see this Anniversary Killer as being the un-sub, given he would have to deviate his course and litter pick, which would be out of his comfort zone completely, BUT I do agree that I am leaning toward the possibility that she was taken by someone who had been watching her and scoping things out, that is if it is not one of the players already in the mix at this point. 
I am with John Walsh, everyone is a suspect at this point, I am not on either camps side, I am Switzerland, ALTHOUGH I do NOT agree with some of the actions taken thus far....but then again I have never had a child taken from me so I am not in a position to judge.

Alright, if that is the case, WHERE IS HALEIGH??

Just to add...if either one of these groups set this up over custody issues, why not take JR as well?  Also, that would not be a very thought out plan, as when all is said and done, the FBI and LE will foil the plan and either party that started this would end up in jail with nothing.  I do not see either of the camps being smart enough to pull of this sort of heist, and most certainly not for this long.  IMHO

Not only where is Haleigh, but how will Haleigh just appear, they must have thought it out that there would be consequences to this action, how could they not realize the involvement of LE.

FYI:

Birthday thread for JSM:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4677.new#new

Ya you have to ask where is she? Plus I think this gives these people a lot of credit for being super creative, super organized and with a lot of resources in order to pull this off and pass polygraphs and hide a 5-year-old with nobody seeing her for a month now. I don't think they have that much going for them. I don't think any of the family did this because of the reasons stated above. JMO

Very true Miss Bee! (The "many" should be changed to "most")

Once the perps are in jail, the general pop likes to "go the extra mile" with them as well...if you get my drift!!
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I agree. I don't really see a strong tie either. IMO this is a predator abduction. Just looking for anybody that might be looked at. Whatever you think about the family - I don't see them having the motive, smarts, resources and/or time to harm Haleigh. I don't agree with some of their antics - actually it makes me even more convinced that they just don't have it together enough to pull this off.

^^^^^ true Lily....

Thank you Sassy...headed over!!  :)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Works for me!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Yep it's funny!  But not me posting over there.  I cannot make heads nor tails out of their site, get lost too much in there.  Might read a post there that someone refers us to, after that I beat a hasty retreat.  lol

Good morning Monkeys!

Are you all adorned in your wedding attending apparel.  Today is the big day.  Please bring your hankies.  I'm sure this will be a tear jerker  ::MonkeyWink::

I know I'm ready, do you know what time the big event is?  ::MonkeyTongue::

GRACE: With me, right now, is that attorney, Kim Picazio. She has an excellent reputation. She graduated summa cum laude from Florida State. She has been practicing over a decade.

Miss Picazio, thank you for being with us for your first interview.

KIM PICAZIO, ATTORNEY FOR MISSING HALEIGH`S MOM, FIRST INTERVIEW: Thank you, Nancy.

GRACE: . after the bio mom hires you. Why does Haleigh`s biological mother need a lawyer?

PICAZIO: Well, I was contacted, as your correspondent has stated, initially to handle the media. But then later we have found out through talking to people in the community and speaking with the police officers, et cetera, as well as speaking with the mother, that there may be some issues involving the minor child, Junior, is what they call the son of Crystal Sheffield, and his sister Haleigh with regard to whether or not he`s in the safest place in the home with the father.

GRACE: Miss Picazio, are you planning to launch a custody battle for the little boy?

PICAZIO: Well, at this time, I was just retained so I would need, of course, to explore all of the issues. I need to talk to everyone involved and so I guess what we first need to do is to go down or up to the town, speak with all of the officials and there are some things that give us grave concerns about the welfare of the child and about Haleigh when she is returned.

GRACE: OK.

PICAZIO: Hopefully safely.

GRACE: Miss Picazio, I understand your concerns. It makes perfect sense to me. If one child is snatched out of the home, what might happen to the next child? I understand that. But let me ask you this. Why did your client lose custody of Junior to start with?

PICAZIO: I need also the court records. I just pulled those today and I have not been down to the town. I`m going to be going tomorrow. And I would prefer to actually read the court documents as opposed to going what the renditions of the parties may be, which may be colored by just the perceptions and their emotions.

But I do know that the mother had retained an attorney prior -- after the original proceeding to seek a modification of custody. And it was my understanding that the mother was not aware of some very important hearings that she was to attend and I need to get to the bottom of that and then we can go from there.

GRACE: Miss Picazio -- everyone, Kim Picazio is joining us today from her first TV interview. She`s joining us out of Plantation, Florida and she has been hired by Haleigh`s biological mother.

Now, Miss Picazio, how long has your client not had physical custody of little Haleigh?

PICAZIO: It`s been for several years and it was -- actually we just found out today that the modification proceeding I don`t believe was ever filed. I need to speak with that attorney that was retained by Miss Sheffield to file that proceeding and I would have to defer to the court documents on that which I am in the process of obtaining.

But, again, there are grave concerns with regard to Junior and with regard to the household that Haleigh would be potentially returned to. There have, of course, been allegations but again, if you can imagine when you.

GRACE: Allegations of what?

PICAZIO: Allegations with regard to what was actually going on in that home prior to Haleigh disappearing and on that night. I mean we`ve got a situation you have a 4-year-old child in the home with a home that`s actually the -- the 7-year-old, I`m sorry, the 5-year-old child had disappeared right under the nose of the babysitter that then we learn is a teenage babysitter who is also living with the father in a romantic relationship.

This is not the first time that he has chosen a teenager to fall in love with and to live with and to watch his children.

GRACE: Are you suggesting, are you suggesting abuse on little Haleigh?

PICAZIO: I`m not suggesting that as of yet and we have not.

GRACE: I`m glad to hear it.

PICAZIO: . uncovered -- we have no uncovered anything as of yet and I`d like to do my own investigation. It`s my understanding the authorities are looking into every single avenue. But I have grave concerns again about the ability and the fitness of the parent who is going to consistently choose teenagers.

GRACE: Well.

PICAZIO: . to watch their children.

GRACE: Well, a couple of points, Miss Picazio, and believe me, I know you are a well-respected member of the bar. But I find it ironic that now is the time when the bio mom is trying to arrange all of her media requests, that she suddenly decides that Haleigh had been in a bad environment.

She`s certainly known all along who the father is dating and according to the judge in your client`s custody case, the mother, your client, did not have a job. The father did. Haleigh missed a total that we know of 12 doctor`s appointments while living with the mother.

Now maybe there`s an explanation for that, but I know the child has Turner syndrome and the mother not only didn`t have a job, but didn`t take the child to the doctor. It`s not like she was working all day and couldn`t make time to take the child to the doctor. I don`t understand that.

PICAZIO: Well, there`s also -- we have to look into the father`s history of taking the child to the doctor. Haleigh was never a child who was well. She had chronic pneumonia and bronchial problems and the father would often leave the children to a teenager who he was living with to drive this child to the doctor on a weekly basis.

GRACE: Why do you speak of Haleigh -- why do you speak of Haleigh in the past tense? I notice that you said Haleigh was a child with a lot of physical problems.

PICAZIO: Because she doesn`t have those physical problems anymore.

GRACE: OK, with me, everyone, Kim Picazio, attorney newly hired, attorney newly retained for Haleigh`s biological mother.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ng.01.html

Thank-you Heart for the NG transcript  ::MonkeyWink::

Hey I have a OT question??  Does FLove mean "fornication under carnal knowledge-EN Love?"  Sorry if it offends anyone I tried to use biblical words.  I just want to know what it means I'm still trying to catch up on blog lingo.

Another question; Does anyone think that with the DNA taken from more friends and family last week and now the door taken that just maybe we have some unknown transfer DNA on that door? 

Haven't seen a time, but I hope it is before the COURT CASE TODAY.

Me too, can't miss that.  ::MonkeyDance::

My fingers are CROSSED, both hands~~~

That's what I'm thinking, your other question about FLove, I would have no idea what that means.  ::MonkeyConfused::

No Rose, I don't know what time the wedding is set for, but I am sitting an waiting.

Thanks, I'm sure there will be pictures  ::MonkeyRoll::

Me too!  Hoping and praying.  I think it's interesting that it went down in that order.  More DNA than door a week later. 

Thank you I was beginning to think I upset people but I see it here all the time and wanted to know what it meant.  I'll google it now.

Can't wait for the nuptials.......had to post this in reference to Carpe's post from SM front page ........ ::MonkeyTongue::

Ok urban dictionary has it as that;my above post or fake love. 

Thanks IM love to see classy wedding photos  ::MonkeyTongue::

Very funny IM  I can just see it now and Ron w/that PO'ed look on his face. 

BBL gotta chase down some dirt--in my house that is!

I sure hope he puts on a happy face for his wedding.

Yes, me too. ::MonkeyTongue::

javascript:void(0);

That would be my guess fcl, since they waited so long to take the door into custody  ::MonkeyConfused::

::MonkeyRoll:: Isn't this his happy face?

KLAAS or a MOD  :


Could you help me edit a mistake?   I was preparing to post the NG transcript from last night (for Haleigh) and my computer decided to take out all the spacing in the transcript and post all by itself!   (I didn't hit the post button.  I had this computer in the shop yesterday - and I think it may have to go back)!

I posted the corrected NG transcripts (with spacing) but the one above it needs to be deleted because it is impossible to read without getting a terrible headache!

Thanks in advance.

Here is the link to the mistake:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4537.20

Post #33 needs to be deleted.   Post #34 is the correct transcript (with the spacing)!    Sorry!

Flove = F***ing Love


Edit:  We prefer not to use the "F" word here at SM

Ground search for Haleigh Cummings continues
Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writer
10:56 AM EDT, March 12, 2009
About 100 deputies are conducting a ground search north of Crescent City today as part of the ongoing search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

Deputies are not scouring the area because of any new tips received. They want to search the location to be sure that all areas have been covered, according to a news release from the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said.

Putnam County deputies and law-enforcement from other agencies will search along U.S. Highway 17, from Buffalo Bluff Road to Paradise Shores Road.

Deputies will search the highway and about 30 yards off each side of the road.








http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

Edit : show area at Paradise Shores ::MonkeyNoNo:: Right near Lake Como

Fixed - thank you for posting those transcripts!

Question from a newbie: Can we PM other SM members??

Sorry, was asked what it meant. Not a fan of the "F" Bomb unless there is no other word that fits.

No Lucky.. and we dont use the F word here either  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks for that I kept wondering about ground searches.

Just sayin, if this is the case ... she could be held somewhere, with a friend of a friend of Ron's, or .. Crystals.  Being kept safe ... I would like to actually hope this is the case.

Yes, thanks and again, was asked what it meant. Sorry to offend.

Not buying the red portion~they already said they weren't going to do any more searches unless they were from tips........ and IIRC it's about 9.4 miles from the trailer, so well outside the 5 mile radius ::MonkeyTongue::

::MonkeyHaHa::
I am not offended, in my real life I find it to be one of my favorite expletives  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Well, looks like I'm batting a thousand right now.

Posted this and it posted in the wrong place, so "F" me running!!! ::MonkeyConfused::

A short version of, for example, "I f'ing love chocolate!"   ::MonkeyWink::

Gotta have some vices in life.  heh

Search for Haleigh Cummings continues, father to marry

Martin Comas and Amy L. Edwards | Sentinel Staff Writers
    12:04 PM EDT, March 12, 2009


About 100 law enforcement officials from nine different agencies began walking along a 12-mile stretch of U.S. Highway 17 just north of Crescent City this morning, searching for any clues regarding the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings.

Meanwhile, WESH.com is reporting that Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, will marry his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin, at 4 p.m. today.



The 5-year-old girl was last seen by her father's girlfriend, Misty Croslin, 17, at about 10 p.m. Feb. 9. Misty told investigators she woke up about 3:30 a.m. Feb. 10 and Haleigh was missing.


In today's search, investigators are slowly walking along the grassy area about 30 yards off each side of the highway between Buffalo Bluff Road and Paradise Shores Road just north of Crescent City, according to Putnam Sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

Greenwood said the search is not being conducted because of any new tips or leads in connection to Haleigh's disappearance.

"We're not looking for anything specific. We're just looking," Greenwood said. "It's just part of the process."

U.S. 17, a two-lane road, is open to traffic during the search.

Besides the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, other agencies involved include deputy sheriffs from St. Johns County, Clay County, Marion County, and officials with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Academy, U.S. Coast Guard, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, and the Bradford County Horse Posse.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

No, they can't get married at 4pm today - that coincides w/Bozo & Casey in court!!!

Now, wouldn't that be something if LE finds HL just as the two are saying "I do".

Makes one wonder....they released the trailer, then the came back and removed the DOOR...and now the search nearby.  Why would they not have completed this area of search prior to now??? Has been 31 days.

Searching 30 yards off to either side of the highway sounds specific to me. And thanks for posting the time of the wedding.

omg lucky I was just thinking the same thing... jinx  ::MonkeyTongue::

Luckyday, OMG your avi, I know I've seen this pic before.  ::MonkeyEek::

Well, IF that were to happen, I would def think this was staged.

Can you just picture HL showing up alive, all the sudden appears at the wedding, something akin to right out of "The Graduate".

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO    we're being reprimanded again, over yonder.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Over yonder???? Why and where?

This is an announcement: That is not me in my avatar. Just for today in "respect" for the upcoming nuptials.

Yes, I know.

I can't find where Buffalo Bluff and Paradise Shores intersect, I'm curious if this is area is on anyone's specific route anywhere..... ::MonkeyConfused::

I am leaning towards this scenario also, especially with Marie's repeatedly stating that she thought Haleigh was in Alabama (IIRC) Why would she say this? Was it a slip, or was it something she knew? That has always bothered me.

What thread, and by who ::MonkeyTongue::

<<Besides the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, other agencies involved include deputy sheriffs from St. Johns County, Clay County, Marion County, and officials with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Academy, U.S. Coast Guard, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, and the Bradford County Horse Posse.>>
This doesn't seem random to me.

The wedding thread, because it took the wrong direction.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Me either~I called BS on it first thing this morning ::MonkeyRoll::

According to HLN - and reporter from WJXT - thirteen miles to be searched - following the railroad tracks from Satsuma to Crescent City along Hwy 17. Supposedly not a tip just an area they have not searched.

HLN just was talking about the search going on now for Haleigh and mentioned that Haleigh's father would not be attending the search since he is getting married today...Now, ok, this I cannot in any way defend...The father should not be getting married at this time, let alone when a massive search is going on for his little daughter....Jesus weeps today...sad sad scenario in my opinion...

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Loved this post:

Quote:
Originally Posted by aprilshowers 
Respectfully said ... I don't believe you can really 'know' them, in the intimate sense of the word, what went on behind closed doors.

We sometimes think we know somebody, but people can be deceptive.

Just sayin ...

You make a valid point, however a person with good people skills can usually determine a situation without opening any doors. Just to let you know (as if you don't already) They lived directly next door to me until they moved in back of me in Nov. Ron moved inextdoor in June and Misty was there in Sept. Mobile homes even nice older ones like these have thin walls and surprisingly many things can be heard thru those walls. You don't have to be a slueth to realize that. Ron and Misty, IMO, were not trying to decieve me. They had no reason. Ron was always upfront with me and he and his friends were trusted by me. I think I know them.
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Well, if the walls are that f@cking thin, she should have easily heard some one enter the mobile home especially if you can hear THRU the walls. ::MonkeyWink::

Totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does ROn take 17 to work????

Not sure what we can say here ... and probably shouldn't anyway. 

Yeah .. what she said   ::MonkeyLaugh::

You bet IM if walls are that thin, hard to explain that you heard nothing, unless she was knocked out in a deep sleep, but hard for me to believe that.

UGH! That is soooooooooooooo wrong!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's a good question  ::MonkeyEek::

Brandi made this map, it's Ron's route to work

I think LE has been reading the SM forums....I have been harping on a search for over a week. I so hope this is the route Ron takes to work.

Forgot my manners again.... Good Afternoon Monkeys and Welcome New Monkeys and guest. 

Yes he does. To be fair it is it the only main road in/out of Satsuma so you can't really go anywhere without getting on 17.

Loved this post:

Quote:
Originally Posted by aprilshowers 
Respectfully said ... I don't believe you can really 'know' them, in the intimate sense of the word, what went on behind closed doors.

We sometimes think we know somebody, but people can be deceptive.

Just sayin ...

You make a valid point, however a person with good people skills can usually determine a situation without opening any doors. Just to let you know (as if you don't already) They lived directly next door to me until they moved in back of me in Nov. Ron moved inextdoor in June and Misty was there in Sept. Mobile homes even nice older ones like these have thin walls and surprisingly many things can be heard thru those walls. You don't have to be a slueth to realize that. Ron and Misty, IMO, were not trying to decieve me. They had no reason. Ron was always upfront with me and he and his friends were trusted by me. I think I know them.
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Well, if the walls are that f@cking thin, she should have easily heard some one enter the mobile home especially if you can hear THRU the walls. ::MonkeyWink::
[/quote]

SURE .. get me in trouble!   ::MonkeyTongue::

About the post ... I wanted to say in response to the poster, just how CLOSE were you listening?  Geesh!  And yeah .. she SHOULD have heard them then.  If there WAS a 'they'.

look at the diagram Brandi provided...I had pointed out from pt a to pt b in connection to his work and his home

^^^^^ in connection to the railroad tracks.....^^^^ last post from me..

SURE .. get me in trouble!   ::MonkeyTongue::

About the post ... I wanted to say in response to the poster, just how CLOSE were you listening?  Geesh!  And yeah .. she SHOULD have heard them then.  If there WAS a 'they'.
[/quote]

Didn't mean to get you in trouble, I just loved the question ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/03/12/031209ronmisty_20090312122144854_320_240.JPG)

Missing girl’s father to
wed today

Last Edited: Thursday, 12 Mar 2009, 12:34 PM EDT
Created On: Thursday, 12 Mar 2009, 12:11 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. - The father of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings is expected to marry his younger girlfriend Thursday afternoon, but the couple is already facing some problems finding someone to marry them.

Jamey Watts, a funeral director, was set to marry the couple but his notary statys expired. Then, they were going to get a pastor from Watts church to wed them, but the pastor is doing military reserve training and is unavailable.

Statement from Dunns Creek Baptist Church:

To Whom It May Concern:
There is no wedding scheduled to take place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church on Thursday, March 12, 2009. Pastor Terry Wright is out of town and the other full time pastors (David Dixon & Chad Perry) are not performing a wedding today. Please retract any announcements you have made regarding the Cummings / Croslin wedding taking place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church.
Thank you,
David Dixon
Assoc. Pastor
Dunns Creek Baptist Church
 

A family member tipped FOX 35's sister station in Jacksonville and confirmed that Ron and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty, plan to marry at 4 p.m. The ceremony will be held at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church in San Mateo, which is approximately two miles from where the girl was last seen.

New ground search Thursday

Putnam County Sheriff’s deputies are conducting another ground search to find the missing girl but say the search is not a result of a tip. Investigators are searching from U.S. 17 to Paradise Shores in Crescent City. They said they are searching the highway about 30 yards on each side.
 
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/031209Missing_girls_father_to_wed_today

just to clarify... from my last post, not meaning my last post here.... ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ron would take highway 17 N, no?  Are they not searching South of Buffalo Bluff?

I'm just so very very glad they are doing searches again, I don't care where it comes from as long as there butts are out there looking.  JMO

Well if that is the only highway to Ron's work, then I guess that is the route he takes.

I'd sure like to see someone show up at the wedding to object.

What I am seeing on google earth map it is the opposite direction from Ron's work path on 17.

me too fatcat

Thanks, I was trying to see which way they were going, looks South and his route to work looks NE to me, but I'm chitty with directions ::MonkeyConfused::

I was thinking about the door. Maybe they are checking the lock to see if it had been " fiddled " with using an object that was not a key. If you stick something into a lock to force it, it would  ?? leave marks on the inside of the mechanism.
Also glad they are searching the RR track area.   

Jump in the car and drive fast. lol
Wish them all the best in their futures from me. Can say no more. Read my mind. 

How many miles from Ron's trailer to work??

SAN MATEO, Fla. -- The San Mateo church, reportedly the site for the wedding, says none are scheduled for Thursday.
A family friend says that Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin are now looking for a location, and someone to wed them.

Dunns Creek Baptist Church emailed a statement to our newsroom stating that there is no wedding scheduled to take place on Thursday, March 12, 2009. The statement provided by Associate Pastor David Dixon asked that any announcements made regarding the Cummings-Croslin wedding at the church be retracted.
Jamie Watts, funeral director of Watts Funeral Home, 720 U.S. Hwy. 17 in San Mateo, says the couple originally asked him to perform the service; however, Watts says his notary status has expired.

Statement from Dunns Creek Baptist Church:
To Whom It May Concern:
There is no wedding scheduled to take place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church on Thursday, March 12, 2009. Pastor Terry Wright is out of town and the other full time pastors (David Dixon & Chad Perry) are not performing a wedding today. Please retract any announcements you have made regarding the Cummings / Croslin wedding taking place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church.
Thank you,
David Dixon
Assoc. Pastor
Dunns Creek Baptist Church

::MonkeyHaHa::  Pretty sure I wouldn't make it on time.  From Canada.

IIRC~I thought it was 16 miles..............

 ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone else think it's odd that this massive search (just saw clip of it on HLN) and the wedding happened to be on the same day- odd coinky dink to me anyway ::MonkeyTongue::

Color me confused!!!! Is this a decoy like Casey tried to do when her bondsman was trying to avoid the press on her way to the clinker on Oct 14th????????

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::  Anyone else confused...

I don't think that it is a coincidence ...at least not from Misty and Ron...But, if I was Ron/Misty, I would cancel any wedding today until I get the outcome of this search today...If fact, I would put it on hold till some time went by and till my daughter was found...but hey, call me crazy...

Maybe common sense stepped in, and they decided a marriage right now is not right.  ::MonkeyRoll::

ya think???? what a concept!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=202+Green+Lane,+Satsuma,+Florida&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=TWWbScj5NYr2sAOkrripAg&ll=29.572837,-81.675104&spn=0.001971,0.002784&t=h&z=19&iwloc=addr

map link - zoom out if needed - from my understanding Ron works near Palatka off 17 and Crescent City is the other way down 17, so out of Buffalo Bluff and Right on 17.

Too bad we monkeys cannot be there for the festivities - instead of rice throwing, we could throw nanners!  And we would all need our valium kitty and some moonshine! ::cartwheel::

Cannot belive Ron is not part of the search today. That IMO, shows his guilt right there.

Now we know why TN told the media to go ahead and wait outside the doors at the church or something to that affect.  tricky tricky.

Nah...

I thought they had to wait 3 days after filing the paper work anyway?  IDK if I remember that right?

Well, call mc crazy too then, because getting married would be the last thing on my mind if my child was missing ::MonkeyNoNo::

When I checked Google Earth it said 16 mi. 26 minutes.

Perhaps the church received a threat of some kind?


OH .. and I wanted to ask:  Does this computer make my butt look big?    ::MonkeyHaHa::

The 911 call at 3:27 am sends up my red flags. Yes, it happened at 3:27 am. But, the question still remains: DID RON ALREADY KNOW HL WAS MISSING WHEN HE DROVE UP AND SAW MISTY ON THE PORCH?? And, how did TN get there so fast, UNLESS she was tipped off earlier of HL's disappearance??

no, that's correct, but today would have been the first day they would have been able as they got the license on the 9th

No, just fit and happy!! ::cartwheel::

fatcat..if they filed the paperwork on Monday which was when they were at the courthouse right? then today would be the 3rd day right? perhaps that is why the 4:00 time? exactly 3 days ? not sure...

If you can't find a pastor to marry you, perhaps a Justice of the Peace could  ::MonkeyRoll::

or any old bum off the street...just so they get it done since they are in such a freeking hurry....

Yeh, no kidding  ::MonkeyTongue::

They prob didn't form a 100 man search in a few minutes.....it would prob take a day, or three.  Now...no one to marry them at the last minute????....hummmm 

Looks like nobody want to have this fiasco on their hands, not even their own pastor.....can you blame them ::MonkeyNoNo:: POS should be out their with the 100 other searchers looking.

Also, love the new HUGE banner on the back of his truck

"ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME"..........

Well, NOT.............if your responsiblle 12 peers will judge you , and right now its not looking so good  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for the dates on the marriage stuff so much happens in this case I can't remember anymore.

That's alot of ground to cover if they go all the way to Paradise shores road.  Why is Crescent City ringing a bell for me?

I think it's because when we googled mapped his address, and let the "little man" walk, didn't it show up as Crescent City IIRC?

Who puts a banner like that on their truck? I don't blame anyone for not wanting to marry the happy couple. ::MonkeyRoll::

uh oh;  Searched back in the threads....found this from Blonde Feb 22.

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.

Was someone staying in Crescent City???

Cousin Joe was in Crescent City.  Now I really wonder if they found transfer DNA on that door other than family and friends.

I thought that this was Cousin Joe? No? too many characters here.. ::MonkeyConfused::

The front has a huge banner to, not sure but I think it says God Will Bring You Home, then under maybe daddy's girl...........damn, wish I had screen captures....the truck really sticks out in the videos, but can't find a still photo.

Where is the information about Ron/Misty not being able to find a pastor to marry them coming from? I can't find it?

Weeeeeeee!!   ::cartwheel::  Thanks!   ::cartwheel::

Now I can have that chocolate mousse I made for dessert!   ::MonkeyDance::

According to HLN - and reporter from WJXT - thirteen miles to be searched - following the railroad tracks from Satsuma to Crescent City along Hwy 17.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image70.png)

The area being searched today above.

For reference, below is route to work:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image27.png)

Different routes, as you all can see.

And hello!

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/031209Missing_girls_father_to_wed_today

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Edited: Thursday, 12 Mar 2009, 12:36 PM EDTCreated On: Thursday, 12 Mar 2009, 12:11 PM EDTSATSUMA, Fla. - The father of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings is expected to marry his younger girlfriend Thursday afternoon, but the couple is already facing some problems finding someone to marry them.Jamey Watts, a funeral director, was set to marry the couple but his notary status expired. Then, they were going to get a pastor from Watts church to wed them, but the pastor is doing military reserve training and is unavailable.

yes, cousin joe was staying in Crescent City.  It's in the media thread for Haleigh a news article posted by Blonde.

From my notes:

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.

The cousin had visited the mobile home she shared with Cummings but was told not to come back when a gun in the house turned up missing around the same time, she said.

Teresa Neves, Haleigh’s grandmother, said on Friday that the cousin tried to steal a gun from the Cummings’ home, leading to an argument between him and Croslin.

The cousin left the home and returned to Tennessee the same morning Haleigh went missing.

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/

The other side is saying that R/M cannot find anyone to marry them.

So the fact that these two have legitimate roadblocks keeping them from marrying Ron & Misty has now turned into nobody wanting to be a part of this "fiasco"?

Just asking. Party on.

I also think that's where the missing SO's grandparents live. I don't have a link for that, though.

Oh now that's a big surprise.

really Tabby? that Chad Reynolds?

That one. I'll search for a few, then I have to go to the store! When I run out of tea, it's a crisis.

Well, isn't this Ron's church???

WOW~What a disclaimer ::MonkeyRoll::

I stole this from his sister's obituary on another site:

 "maternal grandparents, Anna Hayes of Interlachen and George and Marie Touchton of Crescent City"

Yeah, how about that?!

TN announced yesterday that they would be married there today.

Go figure.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Why did TES leave so fast? I have not read all the links on this. Are they still there ?

TES was there Feb. 13-15.

From my time-line notes:

Feb. 16- (Monday)
Ryan said they will conduct a search of two more small locations today. After that, the ground search phase of the investigation will be complete.

Search crews will be placed on standby. "We're not just going to do searches for show," Ryan said, adding that Sunday was the last day EquuSearch would be used as well.

Thank you Tabby.

To add a visual (and you guys KNOW I like visuals! LOL)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image117.png)

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133032&provider=rss

This may be Chad Reynolds it has not been confirmed yet that I've seen.

That happened 6 days ago.

Wouldn't it have been confirmed by now if it were Chad Reynolds?

I dunno, just asking.

*tap* *tap* *tap*

Is this thing ON?

lol

::MonkeyLaugh::your too funny

I just pulled it off ws Chad Reynolds thread didn't google it yet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29551355/

Most recent article I could find so far I guess they keep the ME busy in Florida?!

Oh dear!

According to the "related stories" link on that page, they surely do!

 ::MonkeyEek::

Someone over yonder commented that Florida doesn't have justices of the peace, so if that is the case, and no pastors are available thats probably why no marriage today.

Janitor charged with theft of Haleigh Cummings reward cash
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Baker County deputies have charged a janitor with stealing reward money collected by school bus drivers for information in Haleigh Cummings' disappearance.

Among the ties to Haleigh's case: the bus drivers include her maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, school officials said.

Investigators charged Jeremy D. Leonard, 23, with grand theft after a school official reported the money missing March 4. An arrest report said deputies recovered the money after confronting Leonard.

The Macclenny man was released on $5,000 bond, court records show. Leonard told the Times-Union today that he found the money in a blank envelope and was holding it for safe keeping. He denied stealing anything.

The incident began after police were told that $670 in reward money, collected for information that would lead to Haleigh's whereabouts, had been stolen from envelopes at the Baker Bus Garage. The facility is where school buses are kept and maintained.

Deputies were told that keys to a cabinet where the money was kept were hidden in the office. There were no signs of forced entry into the building or the cabinet, the report said.

The report said the only person who had access to the building before the money was found missing was Leonard, a substitute janitor who works on an on-call basis. Deputies confronted Leonard and recovered $600 from his home on Violet Lane. The rest was found in his car, the report said.

Leonard said that he found the envelope on the floor while cleaning. He said he called his boss to report the discovery, but couldn't reach her. He declined to identify who he called when asked by the Times-Union. He said he is being wrongly accused of theft.

"All I did was pick the money up off the floor," Leonard said. "It didn't say whose it was."

Leonard declined to discuss other details, asked to be left alone and hung up.

Sherrie Raulerson, the school system's superintendent, said news that the money was missing was "unthinkable" and she is pleased that it's been recovered. She said Leonard will no longer work for the school system.

"We're so happy that the money is going to the cause it was intended for," Raulerson said.

Baker County Sheriff Joey Dobson praised the bus drivers' for their work to help Haleigh and condemned any attempt to sabotage that effort.

"They thought well enough to help that family through bad times," Dobson said.

Read Friday's Times-Union for updates.

Not sure that is correct information.

According to this article (FL):

And, believe it or not, just because you have your marriage license sent to you in the mail does not mean you are officially married. You need to have a justice of the peace or a religious clergyman sign the document.

http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/florida/index.shtml

And this shows a Justice of the Peace in Tampa:
http://www.pinellaslife.com/bizcategorysearch.asp?SIC=921105&DESC=Justice%20Of%20The%20Peace

But, finding someone who can legally marry you on short notice is not easy. (Said from someone with experience. Don't ask. LOL) So that could be their problem. Too short notice and not enough forethought. But we knew all that already. We are smart monkeys.

Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::

Haleigh's Father and Teen Bride to Honeymoon in NYC
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...133570&catid=3     I hope the link works, sometimes I have trouble with that  ::MonkeyConfused::

It would be awful weird if that were him in the river.  I mean the car he was last known to be in was found abondoned on hwy 441 which is in the opposite direction.  Unless someone picked him up and took him there.  I think he is either gone (dead) or his mom/family hid him away somewhere.  His step mom was on his thread for a while on ws than suddenly stopped so who knows.

I'm speechless and discusted about the janitor.

OMG.
Haleigh's Father and Teen Bride to Honeymoon in NYC
Posted By: Gary Detman     Created: 3/12/2009 11:59:21 AM    Updated: 3/12/2009 3:02:02 PM

SATSUMA, FL -- First Coast News has learned the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his teen girlfriend and be in New York City Friday for a morning appearance as newlyweds on The Today Show on NBC.

Ronald Cummings proposed to 17-year-old Misty Croslin at Chili's in Palatka last Sunday.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&provider=top

::MonkeyShocked:: It works............... ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm needing valium kitty so much more than I use tio need her ::MonkeyWink::

I take that back . NOW I'm speechless and discusted ! ::MonkeyEek::

I just think what an idiot...I mean choices..we all make choices.  600$'s or jail, gee that's a no brainer for most of us. 

Umm, I can almost (not quite) swallow why they say they are getting married.  Why go to New York? Why not stay home in case Haleigh is found, or in case someone drops her off?  Or stay home and help with the investigation? I think they are going to lose whatever public support they had, and it was already dwindling.

D@mn Slanthony's cut right into the search news on HLN.  13 miles and lots of people involved in seach this took a little planning time I think also. 

I couldn't agree more, Carolyn. I can only think of what I might do, and to get married while my baby was missing wouldn't even be on the list--even if the list was a mile long!

I think the news that you are receiving from "over yonder" is very wrong.  When my husband and I went to file at the courthouse for our marriage license back in 2006 they offered the marriage by appointment through the Justice of the Peace.  It cost $150 though, so that might be too expensive for them.  (Then again that was Collier County Florida)

Thank you Brandi!

While I agree that the whole marriage right now thing is a bad move - what makes it any worse that they are going to do it in NYC? The trip is being paid for by the Today Show - they are going on the show to get publicity for Haleigh. Am I not getting something?

IMO, none of the family members have put their best foot forward, all have acted badly.
I hope that we find none of the family was involved and their actions are all from their desperation.  But with that said, I still fear that this crime is all in family.

As far as the wedding today, very bad taste, but it did get them back on the news.
Could that be the reason for it, if you want news coverage there has to be drama, apparently.  There have been discussions about their closet of skeletons, but, again,
if there is no skeletons, there's no news coverage.
I think I might cause drama if I needed it to get help finding a loved one.

The truck logo's get to me.  Amazing all the talk of God that is coming from Ron.
Did he just find Him, or is it all just show?  What religion allows you to shack up with a child, while your other children are in the home, and another child is somewhere giving birth to more offspring?

I have a lot of messed up relatives, and some of this looks all too familiar.
Ron stressing and he loves his daughter, I believe that.  But I have a brother, that loved his kids, as much as he could, but some don't realize what love means.  I, believe he loved her, but I don't believe he was always the first thought in his mind.

Okay, if you want to throw nanners, go for it, my cheerios could use some. ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyRoll:: Hmm~maybe because they are searching for her now, 100 searchers, LE, Gov't only......no civilians. I'd be sick with worry and grief just waiting, and would no way in h#ll put my Arse on a plane and go get it on in NYC ::MonkeyWink:: But, that's just me.

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About 100 officers from nearly a dozen agencies searched a 13-mile strip of woods stretching from Satsuma to Crescent City.

Hey, Fatcatlurker, I'm acronym challenged and out of the cool lingo loop so, "you are not alone." (I'm singing to you.... that song by the same title by Michael Jackson.)

I've seen many times when fellow monkeys post "WTF" and the W = What, the T = The, and the "F".... is the same one that goes with the f in love. I've also seen "effing" with and without the g. That's how I understand it. I could be way wrong. It wouldnt' be the first time :-)

Hope that helps. :-) It doesn't offend me (not that you said in this post that it offends you either) I try not to imagine malicious intent or try not to take offense when none is intended... like most people try to do, of course.

 ::MonkeyCool::



 

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About 100 officers from nearly a dozen agencies searched a 13-mile strip of woods stretching from Satsuma to Crescent City.

now that is interesting...

Here's a short article about TOUCH DNA from BIO-SYNTHESIS blogspot (October 2008.)

http://bio-synthesis.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-touch.html (http://bio-synthesis.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-touch.html)

"Just a 'Touch'

"With the advancement of DNA technology, many cold investigations are now being re-opened and evidence submitted for DNA testing. In many cases, the clear evidence may reveal or rule out a suspect, however, if it doesn't, what more can be done?

See, when a piece of potential DNA evidence is examined, there is usually a particular area of interest, like a stain, blood, perhaps. So, the stain is what is used for testing, not the seemingly clean remainder of the evidence material. But, if the stain does not provide sufficient proof of a suspect or not, further testing may not be performed since there is nothing else obvious to test. Or, is there?

A relatively new technique called 'touch' DNA utilizes a surface scrape or swab of evidence material, without a visible stain, to detect traces of DNA. Employing this new technique in cold investigations could possibly provide a resolution.

USA Today recently released a story that explained a rise in the interest in touch DNA. In July of this year, JonBenet Ramsey's parents were cleared as suspects through touch DNA technology.

Other high profile cases have incorporated touch DNA, and with these made public, many crime units are hopeful that touch DNA can help with their cold cases.

As with all other DNA techniques, touch DNA can not necessarily guarantee results or answers. The integrity of a DNA sample is dependent on many factors, such as handling, contamination and storage conditions.

The good news is that, even though touch DNA has its downfalls, it gives yet another avenue to explore, when all else seems to have failed."

Hi .. Sorry I couldnt get back to you earlier, had to go to work n just got in.
What i am saying is do ya'll think that Amber got upset over Misty threatning to take her baby from her<re.Misty'S statement on Amer's myspace> and took Haleigh to get back at Misty for saying that. Know what I am getting at?  ::MonkeyWink:: I hope i made myself more clear on this, this time around. ::MonkeyHaHa::

hmmmm while I'd be sick with worry - why not let the professional searchers do their jobs and at the same time get Haleigh's name out there to a national audience. JMO

I just know that if my child was missing in my home state, I wouldn't put my butt on a jet to go to New York...I could get publicity right in my home town just by calling a press conference or talking to news people etc...
what would happen if Haleigh was found and daddy was on a plane jetting away to New York? wouldn't you want to be there if Haleigh is found or returned???
I know that some would argue, the same thing could happen a year from now, do you put your life on hold until child is found?   (errr....Yes.. that would be my life) But this is still so new and so crucial for this little girl...grrrrrrrr...I am gonna lose it ....

No kidding, huh. Unbelievable that they would hop a plane and do this now.

You can do that by staying in Satsuma and being interviewed there...........the Today show can and does many interviews in local affiliates, and that way you get to stick around  BUT you have the added benefit of keeping her name out there for a national audience...........no need to be in NYC for that ::MonkeyCool::

So, what's the word??? Are they married or what?? ::MonkeyWaa::

cookie, IMNSHO .. you are right on.

I think the NYC trip is just for the freebies involved, myself. It was implied that they are guests on the Today Show as newlyweds, not as a father and babysitter who LOST a child!!!

And they can be on the Today Show or whatever other show via satelite.  ::MonkeyRoll:: They don't need to hop on a plane.

haven't heard yet Lucky...

ssing Girl's Dad's Marriage a Legal Tactic?
Thursday, March 12, 2009
filed under: crime
Ron Cummings is set to tie the knot with his 17-year-old girlfriend. Why now?

Although his daughter has been missing for a month, the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his 17-year-old girlfriend today after proposing to her just days ago.

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin applied for licenses earlier this week and with the permission of underage Croslin's parents.  Speculations abound that the nuptials could be driven by a desire to exercise a spousal privilege that would bar the couple from testifying against each other court.

Attorney Robin Sax, a former Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney, believes if the couple is marrying to exercise that privilege they're misguided, "It shows that they are not necessary educated in the law. People have a misconception that they do not have to testify against their spouse but there are many, many intricacies."

One such intricacy in the convoluted spousal privilege law is that is does not apply to a crime involving a child.

Another possible reason for the quick nuptials, says Sax, is Croslin's age. Cummings might be under scrutiny for cohabitation with an underage woman. "It certainly would look better if he is trying to maintain custody of Haleigh's younger brother, Junior." 

In the meantime, the search for Haleigh continues. She has blond hair and brown eyes and is 3' tall. Please call the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at 386-329-0800 if you have any information regarding Haleigh Cummings.

Precisely...

Love your posts and love your dry wit, No Rose!!.

 ::MonkeyDance::

I am not familiar with NY marriage laws.

Would they have to prove residence first.

How many days wait, after filing for the marriage licence.

Do her parents have to give consent.

Is there a pre-marriage course that must be taken prior to the marriage.

Anyone???  Anthing else I may have missed??

Thanks luckyday  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks  ::MonkeyCool:: I love your posts as well.

No offense - but what is the difference? And why all of the hatred? They're not going to be allowed to physically search. They have an opportunity to knock the wedding and the interview out in one day. Geesh! IMO these poor people who have LOST THEIR DAUGHTER need a f'n break for a change. I read back on the boards for Jessica Lunsford and the Groene kids and you would not believe the posts. Not one of those posters got back on after the kids were found to apologize or take their posts back. I know many of you have said you never suspected them to begin with - but really? Seriously?

Messed up the stacks on my previous post.

Grams...do you mean if they got married in New York? sorry, not following...

Yes, is that not what they are planning now??

TODAY SHOW !!!!  But Ron doesn't want to have the camera's in his face.

quote from Lily:
No offense - but what is the difference? And why all of the hatred? They're not going to be allowed to physically search. They have an opportunity to knock the wedding and the interview out in one day. Geesh! IMO these poor people who have LOST THEIR DAUGHTER need a f'n break for a change. I read back on the boards for Jessica Lunsford and the Groene kids and you would not believe the posts. Not one of those posters got back on after the kids were found to apologize or take their posts back. I know many of you have said you never suspected them to begin with - but really? Seriously?

Messed up the stacks on my previous post.

What is the difference? well, cause in case Haleigh was found and the parents were in NY, that would take a while to get back to her....right? if they were still around the hometown, well, great, go scoop up your little child who has been missing for over a month and give her the biggest hug of her life! kindof hard to do that from NY...

I have not been hateful towards any of these folks on either side....but come on,,,this is pushing things in my eyes....It isn't just people on forums that are scratching their heads on these 2 lovebirds getting married at this time, most of the news people and anyone on tv is certainly saying the same thing aren't they ? that is my take on it anyways..

Search For Haleigh Hits "A Brick Wall"
Investigation Into Disappearance Of 5-Year-Old Florida Girl Desperately Needs A

NEW YORK, March 12, 2009

Haleigh Cummings, 5, of Satsuma, Fla. An Amber Alert was issued on Tuesday Feb. 10, 2009, after Cummings went missing from her home.



(CBS)  Another missing person ... little Haleigh Cummings.

She's been missing for over a month.

Haleigh was reported missing when her 25-year-old father, Ronald Cummings, returned home from work.

She was last seen in her father's mobile home in a heavily wooded area north of Satsuma, a community along the St. Johns River about 70 miles north of Orlando, Fla.

Ronald Cummings' girlfriend, Misty Croslin, 17, says she tucked Haleigh into her own bed at 8 o'clock and when she woke up, Haleigh had vanished.

John Walsh, host of "America's Most Wanted," who has been involved with the investigation, sat down with Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez to share the latest on the search for the missing 5-year-old.

"That investigation is very troubling to me. I mean, it's in my home state of Florida, and everybody's working on this case. There are the FBI, the sheriff down there is doing a great job. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has a team, Adam, named after our son, working on this case," Walsh said.

According to Walsh, they are still looking at everybody related to the family, including a cousin who was there the day before.

"There is still a missing sex offender. There were 55 registered sex offenders in that area. And they've hit a brick wall. I think that's the tough and troubling thing -- is that when you don't get a great tip and you haven't found a body, because the likelihood of her being found alive ... . Although we never give up," Walsh explained.

With every case, everyone involved in the investigation needs to stay determined and hopeful despite the lack of evidence.

"Remember Elizabeth Smart -- after eight months. I believe you never give up. We're going to keep profiling Haleigh, but they've hit a wall down there. And it's a very, very sad, troubling part of this case," he said.

Haleigh's father may be marrying his 17-year-old girlfriend today, Rodriguez noted, and wondered if Walsh, having seen so many of these cases, thought that might mean anything.

"It really doesn't, and I hope people don't interpret things to it," Walsh said. "I think maybe the white-hot spotlight of the media and all that's going on, maybe they felt that this was an appropriate thing together," he said.

According to Walsh, usually a tragedy either drives you apart or brings you together.

"I wouldn't read too much into it other than the fact that the police are still saying that everybody's a suspect in this case. They are doing a parallel investigation. They need to find that sex offender, and they need to keep working hard," he said.

Walsh stressed that a tip would really help move the investigation along.

"I mean, we've caught over 1,000 fugitives on 'America's Most Wanted' because one person will have the guts to make that call and to give police that tip. So, I'm praying she's still alive and that they find this little girl," Walsh said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/12/earlyshow/main4861766.shtml

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I have not read or heard anything about them getting married in NYC.

I have read that there are rumors that the wedding has been canceled though.

Still looking for any news about the wedding.

I've heard Marie repeatedly stating that she thought Haleigh was in Alabama also, SCSunny.

It seems to me that if CS (bio mom) were behind the master plan of taking Haleigh or having her taken, that she would have told Marie to lay off repeatedly telling that "Alabama" story all over the media...

MOO <-- My Opinion Only   ::MonkeyCool::

Well I for one am going to take JOHN WALSH's advice and not read into the wedding thing. He is after all, much more of an expert than I will ever be or anybody else IMO. Wake me up when the trashing of parents of a missing child is over. I just can't be a part of it.

Is this happening today?

I had not heard that they would get married in NY..just honeymooning there...
who could think of a honeymoon right now? getting intimate at a time like this would just about be impossible for me ......how could you get even interested enough...sorry...hope that doesn't offend anyone but that IS part of a honeymoon isn't it? or expected to be ?

Yes Minnie, it happened today...

Brandi or anyone, what does this mean?
IMNSHO

thanks.

Yes.

About 100 law enforcement officials from nine different agencies began walking along a 12-mile stretch of U.S. Highway 17 just north of Crescent City this morning, searching for any clues regarding the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings. In today's search, investigators are slowly walking along the grassy area about 30 yards off each side of the highway between Buffalo Bluff Road and Paradise Shores Road just north of Crescent City, according to Putnam Sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood. Greenwood said the search is not being conducted because of any new tips or leads in connection to Haleigh's disappearance. "We're not looking for anything specific. We're just looking," Greenwood said. "It's just part of the process." U.S. 17, a two-lane road, is open to traffic during the search. Besides the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, other agencies involved include deputy sheriffs from St. Johns County, Clay County, Marion County, and officials with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Academy, U.S. Coast Guard, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, and the Bradford County Horse Posse. According to HLN - and reporter from WJXT - thirteen miles to be searched - following the railroad tracks from Satsuma to Crescent City along Hwy 17.

Do you think it is significant that they are all officers?  I don't see any other public searchers.

I personally think that it is...like someone else said, you can't organize something like this at spur of the moment...

The difference is that they DON'T have to leave Satsuma just in case (God forbid) someone finds something, I also thought Ron wasn't going to even leave the area until his daughter was found (OOPS-forgot the long drive for a tat),  Ron said more than once he was sick of cameras in his face...........but, they didn't LOSE THEIR DAUGHTER....MISTY IS THE G/F NOT THE MOM ::MonkeyNoNo:: AND SHE IS MISSING UNDER VERY SUSPICOUS CIRCUMSTANCE.

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also today.

HEY GUYS, it could all be a lie to throw the media off.  The none wedding and the ny trip. 

I think there has been new information.  Last night they took the door and today they are conducting a new search.  I think this is big and something may be about to break in the case.